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<v Speaker 1>Calling All beings?

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>Ey, can I get a man for calling all beings?

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<v Speaker 1>Good evening, everybody, Welcome back to Calling All Beings. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host DJ on a night when we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have some straight original gangsters up in this joint. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>people that are you know, if we're thinking like in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of like actual fire, you know, when you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a call for fire, you have troops and contact essentially

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<v Speaker 1>if you're outside of like two hundred meters you know,

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<v Speaker 1>anything inside of that year what we call danger close.

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<v Speaker 1>So folks like myself and the other guests who hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>will be on later Christina, we are outside the danger zone.

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<v Speaker 1>If there were a call for fire, we're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get fragged on. We're not in danger. But the first

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<v Speaker 1>two folks who you're gonna see on screen tonight are

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is my co host. The other one

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<v Speaker 1>is our special guest. So let me introduce them in

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<v Speaker 1>the order of my co host. This woman right here,

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<v Speaker 1>I think could legitimately be considered by Bostonian, says the

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<v Speaker 1>Helen of Troy of Boston. It's the party people put

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<v Speaker 1>those who together for my homie Betray. Can I get it? Ay?

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<v Speaker 1>Man from somebody for Helen of Troy Ran. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come for that, Oh my goodness. And Boston Detroit. I

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<v Speaker 1>totally love it. Oh be interested. It's an honor to

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<v Speaker 1>have you back on the show, ma'am to co host

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<v Speaker 1>with me, because you are an original gangster like our guests.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys can chop it up because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>been there and done that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say credit our guests. Is definitely the og gangster.

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<v Speaker 1>He's there today right. Yes, we're playing no kind of

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<v Speaker 1>games with nobody. So I had the pleasure of meeting

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<v Speaker 1>this gentleman who I had wanted to meet because he

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<v Speaker 1>had shown up in the cab chat and shown support

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<v Speaker 1>for the show. Then he had we had seen each

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<v Speaker 1>other in other chats, and I really really appreciated when

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<v Speaker 1>he came on because it told me that we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>something right it you know, Frank, it legitimized the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when somebody like this gentleman showed up and

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<v Speaker 1>shows up and then finally you introduced me to him,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, there he is, that's him. He's in cost

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<v Speaker 1>he had an amazing costume at the Halloween party. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about next year, potentially I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>a shoey and unless you're a kiwiir Nausy or familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with their culture or rugby, you probably don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>a shoe he is. But I will do one next

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<v Speaker 1>year from Turtle Boys Converse if certain conditions are met.

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<v Speaker 1>But without further ado, let's bring on this original gangster

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<v Speaker 1>and I would like all the party people that's up

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<v Speaker 1>in the joint to put day hands together. From my

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<v Speaker 1>man Scott the Guinness, can I get aho me him? Scott?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for coming on, brother. It was just what

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<v Speaker 1>are we like? Two three weeks ago?

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<v Speaker 4>That Halloween party?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like two years ago. Yeah, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I've unpacked my bag from Boston yet it would. I

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<v Speaker 1>still don't want that trip to end. It really was.

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<v Speaker 1>And next year I'm gonna be more prepared for for

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<v Speaker 1>what that craziness that's gonna go down, and I will

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<v Speaker 1>be there next year, but even sooner than that, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be there January twelfth to have a quote meal

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<v Speaker 1>love food with some FKR homies. You obviously are invited

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<v Speaker 1>and whomever else out there that's part of f CAR Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and Beatrice is gonna help me find a place

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<v Speaker 1>that we can have it at.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds good, sound good.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you wear your scale cop and your park

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be cold, all right. H The first question

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<v Speaker 1>goes to my illustrious co host Beatrice.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's see Scott, hope you're ready for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so tell us a little bit about yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Your background.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean I worked in criminal justice for over

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<v Speaker 5>thirty two years.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be the short. Yeah, okay, okay, but a

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<v Speaker 4>long time turtle rider. And then when Turtle Boy's first

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<v Speaker 4>story broke, can't and.

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<v Speaker 2>Cover up part one, That's when I jumped on board

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<v Speaker 2>right away.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew this was a cover up. I could feel

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<v Speaker 4>it in my bones.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to tell everybody good evening to everything. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, instead of me typing, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say it a good evening to everyone in the chat.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like we had you know what I might

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<v Speaker 1>put it. I got my specs here, man, you would

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<v Speaker 1>go all right, we have Jonathan, we have Christia, Cheryl,

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<v Speaker 1>JT Traffic Conte. Wait a minute, JT Traffic Conte, this

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<v Speaker 1>looks like your avatar right there. Let's see everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>all things. Oh there's my man, all things unexplained. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a professor or actually doctor Tim Mountce from North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a bigfoot and UFO investigator. Anyway, and Greg, what's

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<v Speaker 1>up Holmes? I see you up there? So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>now that we've got through that, Beatrice asked a great

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<v Speaker 1>first question, and obviously maybe you want to be guarded

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<v Speaker 1>about what exactly your role was in criminal justice, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's totally fine. I guess my next question to be,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the accelerant for you if this were a fire?

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<v Speaker 1>What was it that that got the fire going in you,

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<v Speaker 1>that made you decide I need to start paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to this and putting some of my sweat equity into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, when I when when when Aiden broke

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<v Speaker 2>story number one?

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<v Speaker 4>When when we learned the circumstances early.

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<v Speaker 6>On Offer o'keef being found on offs the Brian Roberts lawn,

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<v Speaker 6>it was it was absolutely outrageous and preposterous.

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<v Speaker 2>If if Johnald Keith had been dropped off at a

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<v Speaker 2>civilian's house party two doors down, this never would have

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<v Speaker 2>happened the way it happened. So I saw it instantly.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a cover up. The fix was in before

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<v Speaker 2>Canton police even arrived.

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<v Speaker 4>At thirty four Fear of View. That's how I viewed it,

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<v Speaker 4>right from the get go, right from the jump.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I like to tell people that in

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<v Speaker 1>my in my outsider's opinion. And by the way, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie Krueger from Arizona. It is so awesome. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have Christina on tonight from Indiana. You're from Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are people outside. We're outside the ring of

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<v Speaker 1>lethality there where these guys can get threatened, they can

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<v Speaker 1>have their cars mess with, you know, any number that

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<v Speaker 1>can be docs, any number of things. But we support

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<v Speaker 1>you even though we're not physically there with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully that that makes you feel good. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>if I was in if I was in the fight

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you guys are. But I like to

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm fond of saying that the investigation began in

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<v Speaker 1>earnest when the first supervisor officer stepped foot on the

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<v Speaker 1>lawn of thirty four Fairview, and it ended the moment

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<v Speaker 1>they decided not to knock on the door. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty much. I mean, it's not range it's that.

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<v Speaker 2>Crime team was never secured, the house was never really

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<v Speaker 2>approached later on in the morning by one.

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<v Speaker 4>Of bran Albert's friends.

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<v Speaker 2>But if that was a civilian's house, that that whole

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<v Speaker 2>scenario straight from the jump was completely different.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, How do they know there wasn't people dying in

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<v Speaker 4>the house.

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<v Speaker 2>You see a beaten dog, bitten man on somebody's front lawn.

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<v Speaker 4>You gott isolated to that twenty square foot area when

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<v Speaker 4>Canton's can'ton. Police actions made zero sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they make total sense to me, because if you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to off the skate, what action, what you what

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<v Speaker 1>may or may not have actually happened, then you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it wrong because if you do it right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna come to the conclusion that doesn't fit the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative you're trying to provide. So I think there's no

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<v Speaker 1>incompetence here whatsoever. That that I think everything was rather purposeful.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, you know that that's one of the uh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's one of.

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<v Speaker 2>The and Terry's or descriptions. It was like Ian Runkle

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bailey up in Canada. He says, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>laughable police in confidence, And I say, No, it's actually cunning.

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<v Speaker 4>A cunning cover up disguised as inconfidence.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was curious to get her. Since you

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<v Speaker 1>were involved in the criminal justice system. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the purpose of the backpack blower was? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the actual I mean in their mind, were

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<v Speaker 1>they blowing away foot tracks? What do you think they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to do with the backpack blower.

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<v Speaker 2>I still don't understand what Gallagher was doing there.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't Maybe if he was in.

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<v Speaker 2>On the planted cocktail glass, that was his way of

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<v Speaker 2>removing layers of snow to get to the cocktail glass.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>But obviously they didn't find any tail eight in the

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<v Speaker 5>morning because there wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that was their initial plan mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that planting the tailight idea came up later

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<v Speaker 2>on in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>It had to have, because they didn't know what they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to have when they went to Dyton, because

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<v Speaker 1>nobody had photographs of the car. And then they went

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<v Speaker 1>to Dyton and they still didn't take photographs of the

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<v Speaker 1>car because that could have been exculpatory, So that they

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<v Speaker 1>must have come up to that with Jen McCabe's help. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know she told us the tail light was cracked.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, you're a Kenneck's initial correspondence with the

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<v Speaker 2>Medical Examiner's office was he gave the Medical Examiner a

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<v Speaker 2>scenario where johnal Keep was assaulted and somehow or a

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<v Speaker 2>cocktail glass or some.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of story.

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<v Speaker 2>Bu Kenn's initial story had nothing to do with being

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<v Speaker 2>hit by a car, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they said it was a stick at first. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the term.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think they quickly abandoned that plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean a domestic with how she yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she beat up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they were gonna say, so is that Beatrice. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a feeling like that that cocktail glass was planted there.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about the cocktail glass? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that unfolded?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't necessarily want to speculate.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's fun, it's fun in the chat. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear beetro speculator not put a wire?

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<v Speaker 2>There's already one hundred different speculations on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, Well, I mean we saw John O'Keefe leave

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<v Speaker 3>the waterfall with the cocktail glass, right, so I think yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I think he possibly could have, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>could have gone in the house with a cocktail glass.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that's something you don't really ever know from

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<v Speaker 4>Karen Reid herself. You gonna have to ask Karen Reid.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he exit you'r a vehicle in a cocktail glass?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>But did he leave it in your car or something?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh here, Debbie says she wants to hear it be

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<v Speaker 1>a trius speculator.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried, Debbie.

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<v Speaker 1>I should be stricken by lightning. This is blasphemous. I

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<v Speaker 1>with the cannon, you know, shooting it it would they

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<v Speaker 1>say up to thirty one miles an hour. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they shot that cocktail glass to shatter it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I discovered twenty four hours before I met Beatrice A

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<v Speaker 1>the forty five pieces, I think, And I said, let

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<v Speaker 4>MythBusters used to do that too. They would take a

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like rubber, so we would the bones would

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, exactly, I that's exactly even better example

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<v Speaker 1>because the forged and fire they don't have the bones

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<v Speaker 1>in there. I would love to see them do that

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<v Speaker 1>and then take a Lexus five seventy and back up,

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<v Speaker 1>run it over at twenty four miles an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>sensors inside the body and all that. I realized this

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<v Speaker 1>you think that's the test. I mean, that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stick it in a parking lot and then just flower

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<v Speaker 1>to be sixty two feet by the way, But what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think of that? Beah?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I would actually like to take a hammer to

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<v Speaker 1>What happens to the head light.

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<v Speaker 3>They remember that the headlights.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the tail light.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, oh my gosh, the tail light. I wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, one thing, you get to remember when FBI

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<v Speaker 2>hired these soccer crash daddies, they weren't trying to solve

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<v Speaker 2>the crime. What they were trying to do is proved

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<v Speaker 2>that the tail light was planted. That's two different investigations.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you understand what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>No? How does that prove it?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I think the FBI was under the impression and

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<v Speaker 2>that Procter and company planted that tail a.

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<v Speaker 4>They saw the autopsy photos and John o'keep's.

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<v Speaker 2>Injuries, and the FBI is like, wait a minute, how

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<v Speaker 2>did this tail a shatter into forty five pieces found

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<v Speaker 2>over several weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>This doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if we go with their latest story where she

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<v Speaker 2>was backing up at twenty four miles an hour and

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<v Speaker 2>it hit his arm and shattered the cocktail glass or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing matched up for the FBI. So I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Investigation was simply to determine there's no way this tailight

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<v Speaker 2>broke in this scenario they described. We believed that Officer

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<v Speaker 2>Procter planted the tail So the ocker investigation was more

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<v Speaker 2>to discover whether or not the tail it was planted

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<v Speaker 2>than it was to discover how John O'Keefe was killed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, obviously it didn't that That theory obviously didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>very well because the jury didn't buy it, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they thought that those guys were hired by the insurance

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't as much as I hate Beverly Cononi and

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I believe her to be corrupt, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't all Beverly Cononie's fault. US attorney Joshua Levy wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a letter to Beverly Cononi basically prohibiting her from revealing

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<v Speaker 2>to the jury directly the federal investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>So it wasn't all Ben's fault.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so they would have had to just define it

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<v Speaker 1>in a different way without indicating that it was the FBI.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of intimated in the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 2>trial that if the federal investigation comes out naturally and then.

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<v Speaker 4>Somehow the doors opened, they were going to let it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Similar to the whole Aidan Carney witness intimidation thing, where

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<v Speaker 2>bed found a way to make sure that got shoehorned in.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as the FBI federal investigation, Bell was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to keep it out, Karen Reid's defense team was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to keep it out. They kept mentioning the other

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<v Speaker 2>hearing you know what I mean, They couldn't say federal

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<v Speaker 2>grand jury. So everybody was tiptoeing through the eggshells on

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<v Speaker 2>that the whole trial. So it's not necessarily all Beverly's

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<v Speaker 2>fault because when US Attorney Joshua Levey offered the thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one hundred pages of CHEWI, he also gave it

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<v Speaker 2>to the court with a disclaimer, you can't tell the jury.

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<v Speaker 4>That a federal investigation is going on.

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<v Speaker 2>So that muddied the waters and complicated everything greatly. And

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<v Speaker 2>it hurts because the jury thought oker guys were hired

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<v Speaker 2>by Aaron Read's insurance company or something for her insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let Beatrice get in here, because I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm babbling.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was just saying they I think what they

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<v Speaker 3>thought was that either Turtle Boy hired them or her

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<v Speaker 3>insurance company hired them. With that said Scott, I'm curious

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<v Speaker 3>what drives you to show up to every court day,

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<v Speaker 3>every event like what drives.

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<v Speaker 4>You just driven just it's just drives me nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole thing, the outrageousness of the cover up, the uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the corruption.

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<v Speaker 4>Gets me deep in the heart. I can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know what's going on in that trial court.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Beverly Canoni for her past, her connections.

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<v Speaker 4>To Da Morrissey. I see a big picture of a

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<v Speaker 4>just the opposite of Meatball.

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<v Speaker 2>Morrissey's hostage tape from twenty twenty three where he denies everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I say, reverse that mirror image. It just like the

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<v Speaker 4>Sally Port video. Everything he denies in that video is

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott, What do you think about having a standout at

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<v Speaker 1>the canton DA's office in Canon whereby you have a

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<v Speaker 1>hot dog vendor, but instead of those little bins being

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<v Speaker 1>filled up with the warm water and the hot dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>you have meatballs and then he has bread and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys like stand out in the front of and parade

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<v Speaker 1>meatball sub out in front of. That would be perfect, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've protested there eight times. We're going there

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<v Speaker 2>next Wednesday. I think that'll be my ninth time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but now going four or five times we marked

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<v Speaker 4>around the building so we can march around with a

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<v Speaker 4>hot meatball cart.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this is exactly it. Everybody, Hey, meatball subs here,

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<v Speaker 1>come and get your meatball sub. See if any of

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<v Speaker 1>those MSP guys come out and get a meatball sub,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can have like the little oven. You

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<v Speaker 1>could sort of bake the palm until of it. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got ideas, Beatrice, Man, you ain't the only one. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I can picture Meatball Morrissey running out the backfire door there,

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<v Speaker 2>running out to get a meatball sub.

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<v Speaker 4>I can see you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see that dude waddle and run. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be awesome. I got to answer some of the questions.

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<v Speaker 1>So Belinda came in and she wants to know, is

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<v Speaker 1>this Scott McGinnis the same person that's a mod for

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<v Speaker 1>Melanie Little. Yes, this is the same Scott.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's Scott the former New York City detective and

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<v Speaker 2>Scott messer Schmidt.

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<v Speaker 4>So she has two Scotts that are mods on her channel.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm not one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great, Scott, But I'm in her channel all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>so they get all the Scott's confused.

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<v Speaker 1>I can totally understand that. Okay, uh, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>have a question for you guys here. Beatrice will Reach

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<v Speaker 1>probably did better in college than I.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, correction, I'm curious as to the impact of

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<v Speaker 3>baseball that would do to the tail light. I doubt

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<v Speaker 3>that impact would crack into a million pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me see. I'm gonna try to get this

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<v Speaker 1>the link for you guys and posted in the chat.

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<v Speaker 1>Because literally the day I showed up in Boston, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the airport, I'm talking to Suzanne, and I saw this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to this YouTube of this woman. She's in

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<v Speaker 1>mass choose it somewhere because she drove the tail light

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<v Speaker 1>that she deconstructed and brought it to Ynetti's office, and

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<v Speaker 1>she sounded like so intelligent and just you know, her

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<v Speaker 1>research was incredibly well done. She's a former teacher, either

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<v Speaker 1>maybe at the high school or college level. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>see if I can find this there. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>tail light whisperer. That's the one. Have you guys heard

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<v Speaker 1>of that one? Let me see if I can hold

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<v Speaker 1>on a sec I'm gonna try to put this in

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<v Speaker 1>the chat. Yeah, this this lady's really good. Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to put this in the chat. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know her name, but she did an outstanding job, and

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<v Speaker 1>I realized there's another original gangster of the community named

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<v Speaker 1>Dave that did it. But if you guys click on

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<v Speaker 1>this link right here, there is Scott. This is an

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<v Speaker 1>outstanding deconstruction of She called Toyota Usa, Lexus, she called Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>she did everything, and then finally she went and ordered

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<v Speaker 1>tellite of a twenty one Lexus five seventy and wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go through this process. So I encourage everybody to

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<v Speaker 1>click and save this link. Also want to say is

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<v Speaker 1>shout out for everybody that's in the chat right now

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<v Speaker 1>before we get back into the discussion. If you are

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<v Speaker 1>a free Karen Read person and you attended Dean College,

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<v Speaker 1>please DM me or email me at calling All Beings

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<v Speaker 1>one at Gmail, because we are going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>Dean College roundtable with none other than Terry. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Farrell, and that's not It's Terry Robbins. Terry Robbins,

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<v Speaker 1>a Free Karen Reader, the former twenty nine year board

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<v Speaker 1>member at Dean College. We're gonna do an all Dean

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<v Speaker 3>Beatrice, All right, So have you ever actually talked to

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<v Speaker 3>Karen one on one?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I actually went into the trial one day

425
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<v Speaker 2>with the Reed family and her.

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<v Speaker 4>It was weird though, because.

427
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<v Speaker 2>Early on in the three Karen Reid Movement, sometime over

428
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<v Speaker 2>the winter.

429
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<v Speaker 4>I was standing out there like I always.

430
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<v Speaker 2>Do on the side of the courthouse and Karen Reid

431
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:42.720
<v Speaker 2>and her aunt Garage are walking by me, and I

432
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.759
<v Speaker 2>had like an opportunity where I was kind of like alone,

433
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 2>and I said Hi Karen, and she goes Hi, Scott,

434
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, wow, she knows who I am.

435
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:58.440
<v Speaker 4>That was weird. She knows like everybody in the movement

436
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:02.599
<v Speaker 4>and how many people she knows.

437
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>And Richie, I want to say so, first of all, Dennis,

438
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Dennis Sweeney my man. We're gonna see Dennis January twelfth

439
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.880
<v Speaker 1>for a meal of food. Richie, hey man, thank you

440
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 1>so much for coming in again. I was tweeting at

441
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.839
<v Speaker 1>you today on another live Thank you for coming in

442
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.119
<v Speaker 1>and supporting the show, bro and we hope that you

443
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.400
<v Speaker 1>are one successful And if you ever want to talk

444
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:30.359
<v Speaker 1>to a brother, let me know. Do you want Beatrice

445
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.880
<v Speaker 1>do you want to get into the Sean Aiden stuff

446
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 1>now or do you want to keep going on the

447
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>case or oh look at those lines gone? What up

448
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>to you?

449
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<v Speaker 4>You're the bus I.

450
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Mean, okay, so do you want so Scott, we can

451
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 1>ask you for your take. Maybe we can state our

452
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>positions all of Beatrice can state hers first, I'll state

453
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>my second, and then you could be the cleanup batter here.

454
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:04.640
<v Speaker 1>So Sean drama back and forth, Twitter dueling youtubees. I

455
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.039
<v Speaker 1>guess Sean's gonna be on tonight, so I'll know he's

456
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna be on with KPO DOUBLEG. Yeah, So go ahead, Beatrice,

457
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>your position is, ma'am.

458
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<v Speaker 4>All right, So.

459
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<v Speaker 3>Nobody likes to see their parents like fighting, right, can

460
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:29.119
<v Speaker 3>we just you know, you know what I mean? So

461
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:31.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, just start off with that nobody wants to

462
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 3>see their parents fighting, and then you're kind of like,

463
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:38.680
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, what's going on? Like I respect both gentlemen.

464
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<v Speaker 3>I think as somebody who's been on YouTube watching YouTube

465
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 3>for a long time, I go to both of them

466
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:50.720
<v Speaker 3>for different reasons. I think, again, we have the one

467
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 3>thing in common, that's, you know, we all believe in

468
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 3>Karen's innocence and we're all free Karen Reid, and we

469
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.119
<v Speaker 3>do want justice for John O'Keefe, but we know that

470
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:04.720
<v Speaker 3>it's not through Karen Reid. It's by exonerating Karen Reid.

471
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 3>So I would say that we go to them for

472
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:13.359
<v Speaker 3>different points of views, and I love and respect both

473
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.400
<v Speaker 3>of them. And you know, I mean, I'm actually a

474
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<v Speaker 3>little sad if I'm honest that this is going on,

475
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:22.680
<v Speaker 3>because I feel like it could be done maybe behind

476
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:27.440
<v Speaker 3>the scenes. But not to criticize anybody, but I just

477
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:30.880
<v Speaker 3>I just think as long as we don't lose our focus,

478
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 3>and I think as long as we, at the end

479
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 3>of the day all believe in Karen's innocence, That's that's

480
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<v Speaker 3>where I stand.

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<v Speaker 1>My position is very pretty much in concert with what

482
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Beatrice says. I have respect for both these guys. Sean

483
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 1>is responsible for launching CAB in Calling All Beings. CAB

484
00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>is for short for those of you who don't know.

485
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>You can see in the lower right hand corner here.

486
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>He's responsible for launching Calling All Beings into this space.

487
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:14.279
<v Speaker 1>We were just getting started into true crime just before this,

488
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and we did an investigation in Pennsylvania of a missing mom,

489
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a forty four year old Shelvy Rafty and then Karen

490
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:27.799
<v Speaker 1>read Case came along. So Sean is my boy and

491
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>all that. I also respect Aiden enormously. I've gotten to

492
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>meet him once. He is a warrior. Does he say

493
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>things that I might not love? Sure? Would I say

494
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>things that maybe Aiden wouldn't love? Sure? But we have

495
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to meet people where they're at, and that's life, you know.

496
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>You can't mold people into exactly what you want them

497
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>to be. They're gonna be who they are. You accept

498
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.079
<v Speaker 1>what's good about them, and then maybe some things you

499
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:01.759
<v Speaker 1>don't love about them, and maybe they are things about

500
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:05.279
<v Speaker 1>you that they don't love and that are imperfect. I

501
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 1>have imperfections and problems and things about me that aren't awesome,

502
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:12.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I have other things about me that

503
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>are really cool. But there's both sides, and all of

504
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>us have that. So with Sean and Aiden is this.

505
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>You have two gentlemen who are absolutely alpha type leaders

506
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>that consider themselves the leader of the movement, and they

507
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.599
<v Speaker 1>don't really want to make space for another leader. And

508
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.519
<v Speaker 1>when there's just the littlest thing that happens, they're ready

509
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to go off and point out something about that other leader.

510
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:43.559
<v Speaker 1>The fact of The matter is, we need both these guys.

511
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Sean has contacts as a result of being a thirty

512
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>five year LEO that Aiden will not have, and he

513
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 1>will have a trust among law enforcement that Aiden will

514
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:57.839
<v Speaker 1>not have. Aiden has sources and methods and people that

515
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>he talks to that Sean doesn't have. So we need

516
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>both guys. Let me give pass it over to my

517
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>boy Scott.

518
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, you know, I I we all none

519
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:12.960
<v Speaker 2>of us want to see the infighting in Free Karen Reid.

520
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:17.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, so it's it's sad, you know. So I think,

521
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 2>like you said, you've got two egos that are clashing

522
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:26.039
<v Speaker 2>right now, you know, And obviously I respect Sean, you know,

523
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 2>his his law enforcement career.

524
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 5>You know, part of me gives them the gives them

525
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:33.519
<v Speaker 5>the benefit of the doubt.

526
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.559
<v Speaker 4>Like he's on some side of sort of scio.

527
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, playing in the mud with the other side. I

528
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know exactly what he's doing right now, but obviously

529
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 2>him and Aiden are on bad terms right now.

530
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm just waiting for it to blow over, to be honest.

531
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<v Speaker 5>You know, the locker room you know, there's locker room fighting,

532
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 5>and there's been locker room fighting and Free Karen Reid to.

533
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 4>Be fully honest, Yes, but you know those locker room fights.

534
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.519
<v Speaker 2>When it's time to take the field and where we're

535
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 2>on our mission against the enemy, the locker room fights

536
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:10.440
<v Speaker 2>stay in the locker room.

537
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 4>We're all on the same team.

538
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 1>And Sandra Birchmore has had the similar drama. They've had

539
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 1>some very similar drama. Yeah.

540
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Now, so I don't want to really comment on it

541
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:26.519
<v Speaker 2>too much because I'm hoping it just kind of works

542
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:27.519
<v Speaker 2>itself out.

543
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:31.519
<v Speaker 4>And maybe and maybe.

544
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Sean is doing some sort of SCIOs, you know, going

545
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>on Kep Peter's show and talking to the other side

546
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.599
<v Speaker 2>for all they know, they're being duped by Sean.

547
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Sean used to do that to the DEA,

548
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:47.880
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. I don't know what he's

549
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:48.200
<v Speaker 4>up to.

550
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you're gonna, if you're gonna make a convincing

551
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>counterintelligence operative, you better make the other side think that

552
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>you are at odds with who they want you to

553
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>be at odds with, or they're not gonna trust to

554
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Miss Beatrice please, dude.

555
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 3>All right?

556
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>So read Dennis's comment. Oh I'm sorry, then you christ.

557
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:16.039
<v Speaker 3>All right. Unity leads to finality. It's about free Karen

558
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 3>read justice for excuse me, justice for Officer Don O'Keefe.

559
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Everything else is secondary.

560
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you want, I mean, if if in any

561
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:31.039
<v Speaker 1>military operation you want to try to divide and conquer.

562
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>And speaking of psyops, we we used to drop leaflets

563
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to the enemy that would say things to them, that

564
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>would try to inflame them against whoever we wanted them

565
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to be inflamed. Again, now you know, our country is

566
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.320
<v Speaker 1>split down the middle in terms of this political bs.

567
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.519
<v Speaker 1>It's all worth nothing, it's all crap. But the Russians

568
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:54.039
<v Speaker 1>and the Chinese love it because the more we're at

569
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>odds with one another, then the less we can be

570
00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 1>unified in our opposition to them. So this is helpful.

571
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean conquering the hearts and minds of the enemy,

572
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 2>dividing and conquering your enemy.

573
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

574
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's all part of the psyops propaganda all that.

575
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's yeah. And so hopefully hopefully Sean is conducting

576
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 1>some sort of an op that would make sense. God

577
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 1>God willing, that's what he's doing. All right, And now

578
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:28.519
<v Speaker 1>to my illustrious co host, Boston's Helen of Troy Beatrice

579
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<v Speaker 1>for her next question.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so what is your plan moving forward to

581
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.039
<v Speaker 3>continue to show up at every court date.

582
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean Kate Peter's got some court dates

583
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Speaker 2>coming up, Karen Reid of the court date Wednesday for

584
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:57.159
<v Speaker 2>the rule seventeen motions. And then that same day, later

585
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 2>in the afternoon, we go to protests. DA meet Paul

586
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Morrissey's office for me the ninth time.

587
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.599
<v Speaker 4>You know, I like, we like marching around the building.

588
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 2>We look up to the second floor where all the

589
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>DA's office employees are looking out the windows. I'm expecting

590
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:21.559
<v Speaker 2>to see signs in the window, like help me, could

591
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>that because I think.

592
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>That's seats tied together?

593
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I think that's how much trouble their office

594
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.840
<v Speaker 2>is in right now, because because of d A. Morrissey's

595
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:36.639
<v Speaker 2>District Attorney's office. With a ship that sea it's foundering

596
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:41.599
<v Speaker 2>taking on water. There's multiple fires on board.

597
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Speaker 1>No doubt man, no doubt, no doubt man. And there's

598
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>uh what my favorite protests. Yeah, so everybody wants to

599
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>see the meatball cart, so please Yeah, I mean, where's

600
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>uh rich what's the gym woman's name that is micro DUTs.

601
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 1>It's Richie, right, is that Richie?

602
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:04.119
<v Speaker 4>Richie?

603
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Richie? If you can somehow arrange this. You know, we

604
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.599
<v Speaker 1>need to meet ball cart to be at the standout.

605
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>We need several loaves of bread that we're gonna be

606
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.599
<v Speaker 1>good to go. What's up, Sherry? He has a going home.

607
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen you here in a minute, but it's

608
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 1>good to see you back. Uh, David Cornish? What's the

609
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 1>clapping and cheering in the background. Oh, let me know

610
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>if I still got it that on? Thank you, David.

611
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you. Let me turn that out. Okay, my apologies.

612
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I forgot to turn that off. Thank you so much.

613
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that.

614
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:42.480
<v Speaker 4>I thought we had like a cheering section in the background.

615
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Now those no, he was hearing. He was hearing this

616
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 1>not a very low volume. So thank you, Thank you, David.

617
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Man, it takes it. It takes a

618
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>village to make one of these shows. Man, it can't

619
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 1>be just me. I want to agree with this person.

620
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Micro DUTs is amazing. Blows me away, and when we're

621
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>dedicated to he's he's talented dude everywhere. Yeah, like those

622
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:14.639
<v Speaker 1>digital representations of Brian's kitchen, like I was gonna go

623
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 1>in there and see if there was any monster cheese

624
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>that was uneaten. You know, a couple of crackers.

625
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.159
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, and that voice too.

626
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:26.400
<v Speaker 3>That voice, it's like it's just like capture.

627
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 1>The British dude.

628
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh the uk Ai voice.

629
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, man.

630
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I always joked they use those Uka accents to like

631
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:43.000
<v Speaker 2>convince Americans like infomercials. You know, for some reason Americans

632
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.320
<v Speaker 2>look at the UK accents like more believable or something.

633
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

634
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>They all sound smart, right, I mean, they all sound smart.

635
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<v Speaker 1>It really blows me away. The three years that I

636
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<v Speaker 1>lived in England, I had no idea how many towns

637
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:02.039
<v Speaker 1>in Massachusetts were named after British towns. To England, I

638
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:05.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, what all these names, like, are all from

639
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 1>in Massachusetts. It's amazing. So uh.

640
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<v Speaker 2>I guess when they were populating in this area, they're like, well,

641
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.519
<v Speaker 2>we're just gonna name this after my hometown over in

642
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<v Speaker 2>the UK.

643
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh absolutely, yeah. I mean look at like Charlottesville,

644
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, or let me think Charlotte, North Carolina, I

645
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>believe is named after one of the King's daughters, Charlotte

646
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Charles town w you know it was King Charles. I mean,

647
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:38.360
<v Speaker 1>they're all over the place, man. Really. Georgia is named.

648
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:44.079
<v Speaker 2>The cities and towns like in Massachusetts to Hampshire, Rhode Island.

649
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 2>They're either from UK origin, or they're named after a

650
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:55.559
<v Speaker 2>famous person, or they're named after Native American language Native American.

651
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, if you want to see hear a lot

652
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.679
<v Speaker 1>of those names from the Evolutionary War. There is a

653
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:05.639
<v Speaker 1>show that was on Netflix called Turn Have you ever

654
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:06.039
<v Speaker 1>heard of that?

655
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:07.119
<v Speaker 4>Turn?

656
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Essentially it was about the under so think of

657
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>around the presidency of George Washington, when there was or

658
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:20.079
<v Speaker 1>a pre revolutionary was General Washington, I'm sorry General Washington, uh,

659
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and there was a resistance movement that was trying to

660
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 1>undercut the British who were obviously encamped here and part

661
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.159
<v Speaker 1>of the culture. And the Tories were you know, they

662
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.559
<v Speaker 1>were part of part of America. They're like this is

663
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, we own this and this underground movement. They

664
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>talked about a lot of those towns, you know those uh,

665
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the towns that were that were named after Native American places,

666
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:48.280
<v Speaker 1>and it is an outstanding series about real people who

667
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>were the first special operators that were trying to subvert

668
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the British right under their noses, uh and give information

669
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<v Speaker 1>back to UH. That was when General Arnold Benedict Rold

670
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:06.039
<v Speaker 1>switched sides from from the US the Colonist back over

671
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.760
<v Speaker 1>to the British. So yeah, turn check it out man,

672
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:16.800
<v Speaker 1>great great series. Yeah. Anyway, so I kind of what

673
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>was interested, Uh, maybe to go into the night at

674
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 1>thirty four Fairview, if you're interested. I I've had a

675
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 1>hypothesis that I've passed over to Beatrice. She's looked at it.

676
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Peter Murphy's looked at it, and a couple other people

677
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:34.800
<v Speaker 1>have looked at it. If you want to hear it.

678
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I actually said it to Jason a little while ago.

679
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:42.119
<v Speaker 1>He kind of liked it. Okay, you're ready, deep breath,

680
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:51.119
<v Speaker 1>We're in yoga class. All of a sudden, Sir Walter Raleigh, right, Raleigh,

681
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.079
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. Thank you love. Yeah, there's so many places

682
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that are named after the British. In fact, the way

683
00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.639
<v Speaker 1>you guys say Lemonster, somebody who is not from New

684
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:03.639
<v Speaker 1>England would say Leo Minster. But you guys know how

685
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be said. So, and obviously the Kennedy's,

686
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:11.239
<v Speaker 1>those folks that are from Hyanna'sport, you know, they sort

687
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.519
<v Speaker 1>of talked a little bit like the British talk over there,

688
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and of course, of course, uh uh. Joe Kennedy was

689
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 1>of Corosse ambassador to tow England back at that time.

690
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.280
<v Speaker 1>So you know they have a lot more British in

691
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:26.800
<v Speaker 1>their accent right than your normal New England or Am

692
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:27.079
<v Speaker 1>I right?

693
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.719
<v Speaker 4>And the accent being British or UK? I suppose? I

694
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 4>don't know. I think it's just a deep, deep New England.

695
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean the way they talk after all, Teddy,

696
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:51.199
<v Speaker 1>come on, you get I mean, I've been doing accents

697
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>on every show now, So hey, what's up? Side By?

698
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.119
<v Speaker 1>All right? My ears are open? All right, all right,

699
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>here's my hypothesis. All right, I'm gonna put this out

700
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 1>there for the homies and were about to get serious

701
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:06.039
<v Speaker 1>in here. Okay, I'm gonna take No, I'm not gonna

702
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>take my glass off, all right, it'd be like John

703
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.039
<v Speaker 1>taking his shirt off. Nobody wants that. All right. Hey,

704
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>what's up, Jen t what's up? Holmes? All right? Here

705
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.119
<v Speaker 1>we go. So we're at thirty four Fairview. Obviously John

706
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>goes inside. If only there were police lieutenant who lived

707
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.119
<v Speaker 1>diagonally cross across the street that would have had a

708
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>ring camera, we would know this.

709
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:29.880
<v Speaker 4>But ogally green cameras, by the way, I you.

710
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Know, if only if only Tom kellerher had that.

711
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Tom CP improved that. He has three cameras. He

712
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:38.440
<v Speaker 4>have one on the front door and one on each

713
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 4>corner of the home garage.

714
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they would He he knows the whole thing

715
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:46.039
<v Speaker 1>and what happened, which makes us more disgusting. So they

716
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 1>go inside and it's at the result of a call

717
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 1>out at the bar to fight from Brian to John. John,

718
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>knowing that Brian works inside Canton PD, does not want

719
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 1>to be refer if he doesn't show up at thirty

720
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>four Fairview? Are you come in? Where's a phone? You

721
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 1>come in? Mister coole text guy? Oh, by the way,

722
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:15.119
<v Speaker 1>you can have the cab phone screen on your thing anyway.

723
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>So uh, when he does that, John knows he has

724
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.159
<v Speaker 1>to show up or he will go around cant and

725
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:26.440
<v Speaker 1>ped and tell people that John is another word that

726
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 1>we refer to as we used to refer to a cat.

727
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.079
<v Speaker 1>And it begins with a P and ends with a

728
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Y and and they probably what's that?

729
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.719
<v Speaker 4>I get where you're going going with that?

730
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:42.639
<v Speaker 1>And that's what That's what Higgins would have done, right,

731
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>because he's a big math. Hey, we'd whack off. So

732
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>he certainly would have gone around Canton p D and

733
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 1>said that about John. So John figures I got to

734
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>show my face there as a minimum, right, So he

735
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.519
<v Speaker 1>shows up there. He he doesn't know though, he actually

736
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.559
<v Speaker 1>is gonna have to fight. And what Higgins idea is,

737
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.039
<v Speaker 1>I want to send this guy home with a black eye,

738
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.280
<v Speaker 1>with a busted nose, and I want to show Karen

739
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that the real her real protector, the real man is me.

740
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.199
<v Speaker 1>You know this, You know because in that caveman culture,

741
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>who's going to protect the tribe? Right? You gonna have

742
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.519
<v Speaker 1>the one that can go out there and protect the gatherers, right,

743
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the hunters. So he wants to show that.

744
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.800
<v Speaker 1>So John goes in to fight. Once it goes downstairs. Now,

745
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 1>it's totally legal to fight. If two guys want to

746
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:35.519
<v Speaker 1>show up in a basement and fight in someone's house,

747
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>there is nothing illegal about that. If Scott and I

748
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:40.840
<v Speaker 1>agree that we want to have a fight, there is

749
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:45.559
<v Speaker 1>nothing illegal about us fighting. If Scott punt, if I

750
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 1>punch Scott, Scott punches me in the face and I

751
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.280
<v Speaker 1>fall and hit my head on a piece of weight equipment.

752
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I want you to answer in the chat, is there

753
00:45:54.920 --> 00:46:00.199
<v Speaker 1>anything illegal about that. There's not it's an accident.

754
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:00.039
<v Speaker 3>Right.

755
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:04.119
<v Speaker 4>Still, it's still a chargeable offense.

756
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I hit you, you hit me. I fell and I

757
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:13.199
<v Speaker 1>accidentally hit my head. No crime has occurred yet yet,

758
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.800
<v Speaker 1>right I fell and hit my head. It's an accident.

759
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.079
<v Speaker 4>We don't read that person. If that person falls and.

760
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Smashes the back of the head bad enough to kill them,

761
00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:28.039
<v Speaker 2>then it's manslaughter. Right off.

762
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, hold on a second, hold on, you got we

763
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta go through in steps. If I just fall and

764
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 1>I hit my I punched you, you punched me back.

765
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.559
<v Speaker 1>We agreed we're gonna fight. There's witnesses I fall and

766
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.800
<v Speaker 1>hit my head. Nothing illegal has occurred yet. Now that

767
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.320
<v Speaker 1>scenario A, we're gonna go to scenario B. Scenario B

768
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>is Brian and John are fighting. They're facing off, maybe

769
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:58.119
<v Speaker 1>some punches are thrown. You can see there's defensive wounds

770
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:00.679
<v Speaker 1>on his hands and all that neat stuff, and then

771
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:03.320
<v Speaker 1>someone smacks him on the back of the head with

772
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 1>some blunt metal object that causes There's no question he

773
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:12.119
<v Speaker 1>was turned around when he hit this. Because if it's

774
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.599
<v Speaker 1>just an accident and he falls and hits his head, well,

775
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Brian Albert's gonna call he's gonna call nine to one

776
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:21.239
<v Speaker 1>one ago. Hey man, these two mead heeads just had

777
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 1>a fight. This guy hit his head. You know, we

778
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:26.719
<v Speaker 1>need he needs medical attention. And then he's gonna have

779
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:29.159
<v Speaker 1>to call the duty desk and he's gonna have to

780
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>tell the duty desk what happens, and that's gonna be

781
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>recorded as soon as he calls the duty sergeant, and

782
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 1>the duty sergeant is gonna take a report on whatever

783
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Brian Albert tells him. But as long as when John

784
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:45.119
<v Speaker 1>O'Keefe wakes up he tells the same story, then Brian

785
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Albert is not in trouble. Other than that he hosted

786
00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:51.519
<v Speaker 1>the fight. He's not in trouble. John's in trouble for

787
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:54.679
<v Speaker 1>getting in a fight with Higgins. Now let's turn it around.

788
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Now John is gonna fight. It's it's John, and it's

789
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:03.639
<v Speaker 1>it's John and Brian Brian bang bang and then boot

790
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.599
<v Speaker 1>and someone hits him with a metal object. Now we

791
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:10.880
<v Speaker 1>have felony assault because we have to get from why

792
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Brian didn't call the ambulance to murder, because you're going

793
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:18.639
<v Speaker 1>to allow him to die. Now we have murder. We're

794
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:21.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna put this guy out in the cold. That means

795
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I want him to die. So why do I want

796
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:26.159
<v Speaker 1>him to die? It's because.

797
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.119
<v Speaker 4>They want him to die, so he doesn't talk.

798
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, So that means there was a felony. It

799
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 1>was not an accident. There's a felony assault that occurred

800
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.639
<v Speaker 1>coupled with the dog bites on the arm. That's also

801
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 1>not Brian Albert's fault. It happened, has happened at millions

802
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of people's houses that they've been bitten by a homeowner's dog.

803
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:50.280
<v Speaker 1>But somebody had to hit him on the back of

804
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the head and they know that. As soon as Brian

805
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.119
<v Speaker 1>calls it in, the duty sergeant is going to take

806
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a report. It's going to be an official report, and

807
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:01.960
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to be able to walk away from

808
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever he says that night. And when O'Keefe wakes up

809
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:09.039
<v Speaker 1>at the hospital and cops show up there, he'd better

810
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:12.840
<v Speaker 1>tell the exact same story O'Keefe as Brian did. Otherwise

811
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:19.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody's being charged with felony assault. Not not insurmountable. Right now,

812
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 1>you have police unions involved. BPD's going to want to

813
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.679
<v Speaker 1>know why John's out of work. Now John has to

814
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:29.360
<v Speaker 1>go through a concussion protocol obviously, so he could be

815
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>out of work for a period of months. The police

816
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Union can get involved, the Norfolk DA is going to

817
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 1>be involved, and there's going to be competing interests and

818
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 1>Brian or Colin or Brian one of those are all

819
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:44.880
<v Speaker 1>going to be in the middle of it, whomever was involved.

820
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's my version of why they let him die

821
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.000
<v Speaker 1>is because a felony assault occurred. It was not an

822
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:54.400
<v Speaker 1>accident that he was hit on the back of the head,

823
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:56.440
<v Speaker 1>because they would have just called the ambulance. Like if

824
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:58.280
<v Speaker 1>they were at a hunting camp. What if they're at

825
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.639
<v Speaker 1>a hunting camp and all of a sudden Kief trips

826
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.800
<v Speaker 1>going to the bathroom and hits his head on one

827
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 1>of the rocks by the fire, They're not gonna let

828
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:09.280
<v Speaker 1>him die. They didn't gonna call nine one one. They

829
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't call nine one one. Is because someone committed a crime.

830
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, your your theories, DJ are just as good

831
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:25.400
<v Speaker 2>as anybody's. And actually you've kind of convinced me because

832
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:28.400
<v Speaker 2>that was one of the theories that maybe during the

833
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:33.880
<v Speaker 2>melee in the basement, John o'keeeth fell backwards and smacked

834
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:34.400
<v Speaker 2>the back.

835
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.480
<v Speaker 4>Of his head on one of the weak bench things.

836
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>If he did that.

837
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.920
<v Speaker 2>But if he was actually assaulted and purposely hit in

838
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.239
<v Speaker 2>the back of his head, then the scenario that you

839
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:47.519
<v Speaker 2>just ran out makes more sense.

840
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 1>We have to get from an officer who maybe I'm

841
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:55.760
<v Speaker 1>not friends with, but because he's never been to my

842
00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 1>house in however many years, a brother officer just got hurt,

843
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not calling nine one one. I'm gonna call

844
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:05.559
<v Speaker 1>nine one one. If it's just an accident, Well I

845
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.320
<v Speaker 1>got to go from a brother officer got hurt. I'm

846
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:10.519
<v Speaker 1>calling nine one one too. I'm gonna let this son

847
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:13.519
<v Speaker 1>of bits die. And that's what they did. And and

848
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.360
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna say it's just drunk. I'm sorry that No,

849
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:18.519
<v Speaker 1>it's not just I'm drunk.

850
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh, But Brian, I mean not to not to like

851
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.239
<v Speaker 2>throw cold water on your whole theory, because your theory

852
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 2>is as good as anybody else's.

853
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:28.800
<v Speaker 4>And actually it makes more.

854
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Sense that John o'keef was purposely assaulted, like hitting the

855
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:36.960
<v Speaker 2>back of a head, as opposed to following and hitting

856
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.960
<v Speaker 2>his head on something. But if you back it up,

857
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.360
<v Speaker 2>that's not our job to even know what happened in

858
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:47.920
<v Speaker 2>that house. It's it's not it's not as he went

859
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:51.320
<v Speaker 2>in the house and he wasn't hit by Karen Reid's.

860
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Lexis yes, right, But I'm not the defense attorney, so

861
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hypothesize about I want to understand why Brian

862
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Albert didn't call nine one one. I have to figure

863
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that out. I get it, because if he didn't call

864
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.920
<v Speaker 1>nine one one, why the hell didn't he He didn't

865
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:13.280
<v Speaker 1>do it because somebody committed a crime. And that's that's

866
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:16.760
<v Speaker 1>my goal. If I'm Alan Jackson and you stay away

867
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 1>from that, you don't hypothesize about what happened in the house.

868
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.800
<v Speaker 1>You just have to say why this was not a

869
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 1>vehicle accident. I don't know what happened there?

870
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:27.480
<v Speaker 4>That was that was That was my point.

871
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am definitely have a diverging I definitely have

872
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:36.679
<v Speaker 1>a diverging interest than those guys. But before we go anywhere,

873
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:40.679
<v Speaker 1>let's say, what's up to Kelly Reid? Can I get it? Hey?

874
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Man Bright, Kelly?

875
00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I wish I was there, and you know what, I

876
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.800
<v Speaker 1>was there? What was it two weeks ago? Uh? But

877
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:56.039
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Kelly, thank you for there for coming in.

878
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 1>You've been in the chat for one or two cab

879
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.360
<v Speaker 1>round tables and just tell Karen that we love her,

880
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>we support her, and uh, we're gonna see this through

881
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:11.599
<v Speaker 1>because as my homegirl Beatrice says, we know quick no,

882
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 1>But DJ.

883
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:16.599
<v Speaker 2>Your your point is if if John O'Keefe was assaulted,

884
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:18.960
<v Speaker 2>like somebody hit him in the back of the head,

885
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:22.599
<v Speaker 2>that would make more sense why they wouldn't call ninety

886
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:23.000
<v Speaker 2>one one.

887
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:25.599
<v Speaker 4>That would make more sense why they wanted.

888
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:29.360
<v Speaker 5>To make sure that he stopped taking breaths as opposed

889
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:30.480
<v Speaker 5>as you by accident.

890
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:34.320
<v Speaker 1>If we're doing we're doing out. You know, us as analysts,

891
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't again, I don't care what the

892
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.039
<v Speaker 1>defense team has to do. I love them and I

893
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 1>pray for the success. But as analysts, we have to

894
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.880
<v Speaker 1>solve for X. X is the unknown. We're trying to

895
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:48.199
<v Speaker 1>solve for X. We have the other parts of the

896
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:51.639
<v Speaker 1>equation we need and I'm the worst math student that

897
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Dean College has ever seen ever. Okay, but we have

898
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:58.119
<v Speaker 1>to solve for X. So I have to figure out

899
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:01.599
<v Speaker 1>what is the X factor I when they call so,

900
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:07.679
<v Speaker 1>either Brian or Colin committed felony assault and Brian thought

901
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>it was going to impede his retirement, or if Colin

902
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:13.880
<v Speaker 1>did it, then well, he's not going to be in

903
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the FEN now, being that you were involved in the

904
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:21.480
<v Speaker 1>criminal justice system. If Colin had a felony assault, now

905
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:24.679
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe it could have been pled down from

906
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:27.760
<v Speaker 1>from a felony to a misdemeanor. There may have been restitution.

907
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:30.360
<v Speaker 1>It would all depend on what O'Keefe wanted to do

908
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 1>and how how how pissed off he was right and

909
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:36.239
<v Speaker 1>because it would have been in concert with the DA's

910
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>office and there would have been deals made. Right. But

911
00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>let's just say that Colin bought a felony assault on

912
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:47.920
<v Speaker 1>his record. Could he become a police officer or fireman?

913
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

914
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:53.239
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't think so.

915
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Every so I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I

916
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:01.239
<v Speaker 1>know on every single job application it says have you

917
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:05.760
<v Speaker 1>ever been committed committed a felony? If yes, then explain

918
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:08.639
<v Speaker 1>and then you're gonna have to go through that Jony

919
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:11.880
<v Speaker 1>b I love all right, And here's the one right here.

920
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Can you read this one? Please? Beatrice?

921
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Sure, I always wondered about the weight bench John hitting

922
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:22.400
<v Speaker 3>the back of his head, but if they lowered him there,

923
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:24.719
<v Speaker 3>I think it changes everything.

924
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:30.760
<v Speaker 1>The thing what I'm trying to surpass Chrryde is if

925
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:33.760
<v Speaker 1>he just hits his head on the weight bench during

926
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a fight that they both agreed to have. Because the

927
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:40.960
<v Speaker 1>call out suggests Brian's calling him out to fight, he's

928
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 1>agreed to come fight. There's nothing illegal about that. Two

929
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:48.119
<v Speaker 1>men can fight. It becomes assault when someone stops fighting

930
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and you keep fighting and someone's pulverizing you, then maybe

931
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.760
<v Speaker 1>we could start to get into an assault. Him falling

932
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and accidentally hitting his head. That's not a crime. There's

933
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:01.400
<v Speaker 1>nothing criminal there. Anybody can slip and fall during a

934
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:06.199
<v Speaker 1>fight and get hurt. It depends on what precipitated that.

935
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Did you agree to this? Did one guy just decide

936
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:11.639
<v Speaker 1>who's going to blast another guy in the face and

937
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:13.599
<v Speaker 1>then he fell and hit his head? Was it a

938
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:16.639
<v Speaker 1>sucker punch? Were they both throwing punches? One guy fell,

939
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 1>hits his head. There's no crime there. The crime happens.

940
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I will to strike someone.

941
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I will.

942
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:26.639
<v Speaker 4>I will say that I know.

943
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I know of some individuals. I know of one particular.

944
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:37.119
<v Speaker 2>It was a bare room disagreement. Hey, let's take this outside. Yep,

945
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:42.079
<v Speaker 2>there was a fist fight outside. He got one good

946
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:45.960
<v Speaker 2>punch in the guy fell, smashed his head on the

947
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:47.239
<v Speaker 2>curb and died instantly.

948
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:48.280
<v Speaker 4>He did time for that.

949
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I know you're right. I have heard it, and.

950
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.960
<v Speaker 4>He wasn't planning on killing anybody.

951
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have heard of those. I've heard those situations

952
00:56:57.760 --> 00:56:59.079
<v Speaker 1>have absolutely happened.

953
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:01.719
<v Speaker 4>But this I didn't do a lot of time.

954
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:07.000
<v Speaker 2>But it was manslaughter, you know what I mean, aggravina assault,

955
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.119
<v Speaker 2>battery causing death.

956
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The thing is is, though, is that it was

957
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:18.519
<v Speaker 1>not a deadly blow. It eventually became that when they

958
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:23.480
<v Speaker 1>decided not to seek medical treatment. So, I mean, you

959
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:28.519
<v Speaker 1>have three cops there, three cops fighting. You know, first

960
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of all, they have the sympathies of the criminal justice

961
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:36.039
<v Speaker 1>system because they're all law enforcement officers. And one guy

962
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:38.559
<v Speaker 1>falls and hits his head. I don't think he's getting

963
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody's being charged with a crime. Because

964
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:43.280
<v Speaker 1>if they say to O'Keefe, did you agree to fight

965
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:45.800
<v Speaker 1>this guy? Did you go there with the intention? I

966
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:48.760
<v Speaker 1>mean obviously we got text messages that ask him, and

967
00:57:48.840 --> 00:57:51.519
<v Speaker 1>we've got the video. You look like you're over there,

968
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, in a boxing sense, So did you want

969
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:56.480
<v Speaker 1>to fight him? And if O'Keefe is honest and says yeah,

970
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:58.679
<v Speaker 1>I did, and I went over there knowing. I mean,

971
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:02.119
<v Speaker 1>he okay, we're gonna fight. So if you have an

972
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:04.639
<v Speaker 1>accident and hit your head, I don't think the criminal

973
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.199
<v Speaker 1>justice system is going to charge a police officer for

974
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:10.400
<v Speaker 1>someone sustaining a cut on their head. The problem came

975
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:13.360
<v Speaker 1>is when they decided we're not going to treat the cut,

976
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:16.800
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna let the son of bitch lose half of

977
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:20.440
<v Speaker 1>his blood. And what they say, he loved three leaders

978
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:21.920
<v Speaker 1>of blood inside the home.

979
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think I think the uh, the head

980
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.079
<v Speaker 2>injury to the back of his skull or the damage

981
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:36.679
<v Speaker 2>was severe enough to be deadly. I think even if

982
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:39.440
<v Speaker 2>they had called nine on one right away, I don't

983
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:41.760
<v Speaker 2>know if John would have survived. That's how bad it

984
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:44.760
<v Speaker 2>sounded like from the medical examiner during the trial.

985
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but we're not qualified to say that. I mean,

986
00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:51.079
<v Speaker 1>nurse Kim I think, has said that he thinks that

987
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:51.960
<v Speaker 1>could have been treated.

988
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

989
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:54.280
<v Speaker 4>Maybe, I don't know.

990
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:56.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not a medical professional. I have

991
00:58:56.679 --> 00:59:00.440
<v Speaker 1>no idea. There are people who have been in war

992
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:03.880
<v Speaker 1>that have sustained head injuries. I mean, I can't imagine

993
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that inside of five minutes they couldn't have had an

994
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:10.800
<v Speaker 1>ambulance there at thirty four Fairview. I mean, so and

995
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you you know, first of all, you're gonna treat it.

996
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.800
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna put pressure on the wound to stop the bleeding.

997
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:17.639
<v Speaker 1>There's a number of things that you know. I mean,

998
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm if you were in criminal justice from you're trained.

999
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm I'm trained. I'm trained battlefield buddy. I mean,

1000
00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 1>so you know there's things that we can do, you know,

1001
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:31.840
<v Speaker 1>until qualified people get there. And even still he was

1002
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 1>still alive hours later. He's still alive many now, you know,

1003
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:39.599
<v Speaker 1>six hours later, So I think they could I think

1004
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:40.840
<v Speaker 1>they could have said I.

1005
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:43.320
<v Speaker 4>Don't know how live he was when they finally got

1006
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:43.840
<v Speaker 4>to him.

1007
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:49.360
<v Speaker 1>And eighty degrees by Yeah, I'm with you, man, I mean,

1008
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:53.679
<v Speaker 1>but if it was within five, ten, fifteen minutes and

1009
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:56.760
<v Speaker 1>he's got you know, an e MT there, I mean,

1010
00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm making an assumption on that. But the point

1011
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:02.480
<v Speaker 1>is is they didn't even attempt to get him treated.

1012
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:05.000
<v Speaker 1>If I were Brian Albert, he would be in my

1013
01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:07.639
<v Speaker 1>car and I'd be driving him to the hospital. If

1014
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if they're like, we're ten minutes up, being

1015
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll come to you man, like, well, you know, Brian

1016
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Albert could have been on the phone, He could have

1017
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.880
<v Speaker 1>been coordinating emergency care from you know, his work, sal

1018
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I mean any number of things. If

1019
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:25.280
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to save his life, they obviously didn't wanted to.

1020
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:28.000
<v Speaker 1>They wanted to end his life and not save his life.

1021
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:32.559
<v Speaker 5>And why and then if you go down your rabbit hole, right, DJA,

1022
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:36.000
<v Speaker 5>why why did why did John not.

1023
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Have to survive? What was he gonna say? What was

1024
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:41.159
<v Speaker 4>he gonna tell him?

1025
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was gonna he was gonna say that somebody

1026
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:47.039
<v Speaker 1>I was I was engaged with one person. The only

1027
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:49.320
<v Speaker 1>way you can get that injury on the back of

1028
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:53.280
<v Speaker 1>your head is somebody struck you from behind with something.

1029
01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Someone took an object and bashed you in the head

1030
01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:59.800
<v Speaker 1>with it for what reason. Now we could get into.

1031
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:02.760
<v Speaker 1>You know that Brian Albert thinks he's Vic Mackeye from

1032
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:05.519
<v Speaker 1>the Shield and all this neat stuff, you know, any

1033
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:08.440
<v Speaker 1>of those things, you know, and and Vic Mackie, if

1034
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you watch the Shield, everything had to cover up everything.

1035
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.960
<v Speaker 1>The strike team can never get in trouble. I'm sure

1036
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:18.280
<v Speaker 1>he thought he was Vic Mackie. I'm sure you know,

1037
01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:22.280
<v Speaker 1>especially you know, Sean postulates that he used that stingray

1038
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.360
<v Speaker 1>device to to zero in on listen to people's phone

1039
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:29.519
<v Speaker 1>calls and and you know, this was a technology they

1040
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:32.000
<v Speaker 1>came up with for for the d O D. Basically

1041
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:35.280
<v Speaker 1>they used it to track terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan.

1042
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:38.119
<v Speaker 1>They would they could fly overhead listen to their cell

1043
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 1>phone conversations. You could see all their text messages, uh,

1044
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:44.840
<v Speaker 1>screenshot them. They probably did the same thing.

1045
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:47.400
<v Speaker 4>Was it Sean McDonough that that.

1046
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Theorized that Brian Albert had access to one of those?

1047
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And Peter Yeah, and Peter Murray as well. Yeah. So, uh,

1048
01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to say John Como was in the chat.

1049
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:02.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've already left for hockey. Shout

1050
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<v Speaker 1>out to my man, John Como, My boy. I'm sorry

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01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:07.920
<v Speaker 1>it was in the middle of the ramp. I couldn't

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01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:11.880
<v Speaker 1>answer you, John, but it was great speaking with you today. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's cool. Man made a good conversation and he

1054
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:18.599
<v Speaker 1>illuminated a lot of things for me. He knows a lot,

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01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:20.840
<v Speaker 1>certainly a lot more than I do, but then again,

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01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.679
<v Speaker 1>all of you do. So all right, let me get

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<v Speaker 1>Beatrice in here. I've babbled enough and need water, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So I have a question predictions on the SJC.

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01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:34.599
<v Speaker 3>What do we think is going to have it?

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01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think if the SJC was gonna play

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01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:49.400
<v Speaker 2>safe and they don't want to make a groundbreaking new

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01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:55.119
<v Speaker 2>case law decision, they could tell Judge Canoni, you got

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01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:59.079
<v Speaker 2>to bring the jury back in and at least fix

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01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:03.840
<v Speaker 2>this like they were they twelve nothing not guilty on

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01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.079
<v Speaker 2>charge one and twelve nothing not guilty on charge three.

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01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:13.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Or they could go as far.

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01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:18.519
<v Speaker 2>As throwing out charge one and three, or they could

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<v Speaker 2>go as far as rewriting Judicial Rule twenty seven ALPHA,

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01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:26.559
<v Speaker 2>where it says the judge may pull the jury under

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01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:30.639
<v Speaker 2>multiple charges to see if the jury is not merely

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<v Speaker 2>at an impasse on one of them. Have you come

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01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:39.239
<v Speaker 2>to a consensus on any of these three charges. You

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01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:42.599
<v Speaker 2>could have the writing of twenty seven A rewritten to

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<v Speaker 2>say the judge must.

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01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:50.159
<v Speaker 4>Or the judge will not, the judge may.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can look at you could look at Judicial

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01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:56.639
<v Speaker 2>Rule twenty seven A. I read the language of that

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01:03:56.760 --> 01:04:00.960
<v Speaker 2>statute and I think the language is flawed, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like, I don't think it should be

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01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:06.239
<v Speaker 2>up to a judge to decide, Well, you know today,

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01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to ask them if they came to

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01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:12.159
<v Speaker 2>a consensus on any of the charges or if she

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01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:13.000
<v Speaker 2>felt like it.

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01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.400
<v Speaker 4>When the jury came back after the two e it's

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01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:18.519
<v Speaker 4>the third letter to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Judge saying, your honor, we can't you know, we're at

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01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:25.679
<v Speaker 2>an impass. All Judge beb had to do is say,

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01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:27.119
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean you're in an impass?

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01:04:27.400 --> 01:04:29.840
<v Speaker 4>What about charge one? Murder? You know what I mean?

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01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:31.320
<v Speaker 4>You're at an impass on that?

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01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:35.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, we're twelve twelve zero, not guilty on

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01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:39.159
<v Speaker 2>that one, all right? Charge two, Oh, we're hung up

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01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:42.599
<v Speaker 2>on some of the lowers included in charge two. In

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01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:46.360
<v Speaker 2>charge three were good twelve nothing, not guilty. The only

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01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:48.760
<v Speaker 2>thing we're hung up on, your honor is count two.

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<v Speaker 2>But Beverly purposely ignored all that and just threw the

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01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.000
<v Speaker 2>baby out with the bathwater and said, oh, it's a mistrial.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? Do you think that? Bia? Do you think

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01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that that that was purposeful, that that she wanted to

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01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.440
<v Speaker 1>make sure she could just hang the jury on the whole.

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<v Speaker 3>Kitten Kabule, I don't know, I don't know.

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01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:19.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm I mean, I don't trust her. So, yeah, the

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01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:22.360
<v Speaker 1>unfortunate thing is that what this trial has done to

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01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:25.880
<v Speaker 1>us is it's jaded us that we we I mean,

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01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:28.119
<v Speaker 1>at least in me, in my I think everything they

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01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:31.400
<v Speaker 1>did was purposeful. Maybe some of it isn't. Maybe sometimes

1108
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:35.519
<v Speaker 1>they were just you know, foolishly just inept in in

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01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:38.800
<v Speaker 1>certain ways, not not in the investigators. I think that

1110
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was all purposeful. But maybe maybe Judge bev just wasn't competent,

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01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.760
<v Speaker 1>because why the hell would you have a verdict slip

1112
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:48.559
<v Speaker 1>that has only guilty and if you think it's not guilty,

1113
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:52.199
<v Speaker 1>you don't mark it. Are you kidding me? Like are

1114
01:05:52.199 --> 01:05:56.599
<v Speaker 1>you planning something in the jury's mind, like, oh yeah,

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01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:58.559
<v Speaker 1>this is that we do it. He had mister yan

1116
01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Edie right, and he's like, I don't know, I've never

1117
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:03.760
<v Speaker 1>seen that. Maybe that's how they do it in your court.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I would like to see come out of

1119
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:14.239
<v Speaker 2>this is new case law changes to Rule twenty seven ALPHA,

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<v Speaker 2>standardized jury verdict slips that make way more sense. So

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01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:27.280
<v Speaker 2>in the Karen Reid case, you had three separate charges.

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01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:32.639
<v Speaker 2>The second charge with included lessers that form should be

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01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:39.960
<v Speaker 2>very clear and simple. Charge one guilty, not guilty, unable

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01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:43.119
<v Speaker 2>to reach a decision, Charge.

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01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:46.440
<v Speaker 4>Two guilty, not guilty, and then the.

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01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Included lessons guilty, not guilty, or the foreman has to

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01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:56.360
<v Speaker 2>sign off where hung on charge two? Yes, And then

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01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:59.519
<v Speaker 2>you would go down the slit charge three leaving the

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01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:06.840
<v Speaker 2>scene after bodily injury of death, guilty, not guilty or unable.

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<v Speaker 4>To reach a decision, you know what I mean.

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01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:12.800
<v Speaker 2>So each each charge, so when that slip came back

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01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:17.039
<v Speaker 2>to bev there wouldn't be a question of her deciding

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01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:21.079
<v Speaker 2>am I going to employee rule twenty seven A. The

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01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:25.320
<v Speaker 2>slip would just tell her okay, they were not guilty

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01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:32.360
<v Speaker 2>on charge one. On charge to the jury foreman chucked

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01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:35.039
<v Speaker 2>box three, which is unable to come to a decision,

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01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:38.360
<v Speaker 2>And when she looked down the slip and saw charge

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01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:41.360
<v Speaker 2>three leaving the scene, it would have been not guilty.

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01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:48.519
<v Speaker 2>So if you read twenty seven alpha, the judges allowed

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01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:54.400
<v Speaker 2>she may enter not guilties on charge one and charge

1141
01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:59.440
<v Speaker 2>three and hang the jury on charge two. So in

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01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:03.400
<v Speaker 2>trial to Karen Reid would simply be coming back for

1143
01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:07.679
<v Speaker 2>the manslaughter charger, and they included blessers one in three

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01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:11.079
<v Speaker 2>would be off the table. And if the slip was

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01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:15.599
<v Speaker 2>done in the manner that I'm talking about, in rule

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01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:20.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven A was made mandatory that Slip would have

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01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:22.680
<v Speaker 2>came back to bed and everything would have been fine.

1148
01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:26.960
<v Speaker 2>We wouldn't be at the Supreme Judicial Court and wouldn't

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01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:28.039
<v Speaker 2>even have gotten this far.

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01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:32.000
<v Speaker 4>So that's what I would hope that would.

1151
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Happen if the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts is going

1152
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:42.560
<v Speaker 2>to make a groundbreaking new case law is to clean

1153
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:47.439
<v Speaker 2>up the jury instructions, clean clean up the verdict forms,

1154
01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:52.439
<v Speaker 2>compel the judge to pull a jury on multiple charge

1155
01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:55.720
<v Speaker 2>cases to make sure that the jury didn't come to

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01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:58.680
<v Speaker 2>a unanimous decision on one of these other charges.

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01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:02.880
<v Speaker 4>Not where can just say, you know what twenty seven

1158
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:06.239
<v Speaker 4>A today, I ain't feeling it. You know what? Yeah,

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01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:10.159
<v Speaker 4>you jurors have done a really you know, a long trial.

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01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:15.279
<v Speaker 4>That's a mistrial. But that only benefits the prosecution. So

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01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:16.479
<v Speaker 4>now he A.

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01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Morrissey's office can bring drag carried into trial too with

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01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:23.000
<v Speaker 2>all three charges.

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01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:26.960
<v Speaker 1>On the table more money. Yep, it's just.

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01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:29.840
<v Speaker 4>Dirty, dirty, dirty, That's how I see it.

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01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Scott, where you've come up with this,

1167
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:37.560
<v Speaker 1>this theory to remove ambiguity from the process. How dare

1168
01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you try to clear things up and make them concise

1169
01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:43.119
<v Speaker 1>and and transparent, how.

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01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:45.159
<v Speaker 4>Dare you well see the see the problem with.

1171
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.600
<v Speaker 1>That's where you laugh. That's you're supposed to be like,

1172
01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:50.600
<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>No, the problem with DA. They're in the business of

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01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:55.960
<v Speaker 4>making convictions. How does how does d. A. Morrissey get

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01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:57.920
<v Speaker 4>elected for DA next time around?

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01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:02.399
<v Speaker 2>When he when he's running his campaign, I con fit

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01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:04.760
<v Speaker 2>ninety eight percent of my case. And if I'm keeping

1178
01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:10.760
<v Speaker 2>the streets of Norfolk County safe and he wants to

1179
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:12.279
<v Speaker 2>take every advantage he can.

1180
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:18.239
<v Speaker 4>So if you believe that Beverly Canoni.

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01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Is dirty and she's she's there to help Morrissey, which

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01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe that's the only reason she was even on

1183
01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:28.079
<v Speaker 2>this trial, the only reason she wouldn't recuse herself.

1184
01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:31.640
<v Speaker 4>Sure, it's because her mission was to save Morrissey's ass.

1185
01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Sure, and then if we can't get a conviction, so

1186
01:10:37.439 --> 01:10:42.079
<v Speaker 2>DA stack charges, right, they stack second degree murder, then

1187
01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:45.119
<v Speaker 2>they stack manslaughter, and then they stack all the lessers

1188
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:46.000
<v Speaker 2>and then they stack.

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01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:50.079
<v Speaker 4>So you give the jury the smorgas board of.

1190
01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Stuff that they could somehow maybe find her guilty on something.

1191
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:55.640
<v Speaker 4>And we saw that almost happen.

1192
01:10:56.600 --> 01:10:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Some of these jurors were making up their own theories

1193
01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:02.119
<v Speaker 2>of happened, and they were going to find guilty on

1194
01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:07.039
<v Speaker 2>some of the lessons and charge two, which is stupid

1195
01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:09.600
<v Speaker 2>because jurors aren't supposed to make up their own theories

1196
01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:15.239
<v Speaker 2>first of all. But the DA has all the advantage,

1197
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:19.199
<v Speaker 2>so they couldn't get a straight not guilty on all three.

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01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:22.399
<v Speaker 4>So oh, I want to have my cake and eat

1199
01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:22.720
<v Speaker 4>it too.

1200
01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:25.399
<v Speaker 2>So now Da Morrisey can come back into trial too

1201
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:28.520
<v Speaker 2>with all the charges still on the table.

1202
01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Who ate it and embedded that situation?

1203
01:11:31.279 --> 01:11:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Judge Beverly Canoni, absolutely, yeah, you could have fixed it

1204
01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:41.239
<v Speaker 2>that day when the journey came back that third time

1205
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.800
<v Speaker 2>with this well written letter from the foreman.

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01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:46.880
<v Speaker 4>I'll bet of how to do.

1207
01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Is say, oh, you know what, I have ruled twenty

1208
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:53.680
<v Speaker 2>seven A at my disposal. I'm going to ask this foreman, well,

1209
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:55.920
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean you're hung? Are you hung on

1210
01:11:57.119 --> 01:11:57.640
<v Speaker 2>count one?

1211
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:00.800
<v Speaker 4>Are you hung on count two? Are you hung on

1212
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:01.640
<v Speaker 4>count three?

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01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:05.880
<v Speaker 2>She's not asking for the details of the jury deliberations,

1214
01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:09.119
<v Speaker 2>because that's what the other side is using even in

1215
01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:13.359
<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court today. Oh we can't, we can't invade

1216
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the province of the jury. We can't know what their

1217
01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:19.800
<v Speaker 2>deliberations were. No, that's not what we're asking. We want

1218
01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:23.600
<v Speaker 2>to know were you twelve oh not guilty on charge one.

1219
01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:26.319
<v Speaker 2>We're not asking you how do you how the twelve

1220
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:29.920
<v Speaker 2>of you individuals came to that decision. We're just asking,

1221
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:33.199
<v Speaker 2>was that your vote? You acquitted this woman of second

1222
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:35.840
<v Speaker 2>degree murder? This is double jeopardy.

1223
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:38.000
<v Speaker 4>We can't bring her back to trial on that again.

1224
01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:42.439
<v Speaker 4>We got we gotta straightened the south. It's like, oh no,

1225
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:45.680
<v Speaker 4>it's just a mistrial. We'll just do it all over again. Yeah,

1226
01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:48.920
<v Speaker 4>that's why we were at the Supreme Judicial Court today.

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01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:52.439
<v Speaker 1>She wants to be involved in this case and she

1228
01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:54.920
<v Speaker 1>wants to have her hand on the scale of justice.

1229
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Or she would have just told the people to Norfolk

1230
01:12:57.560 --> 01:13:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Superior Court. I'll say it like me, little Noffolk. She

1231
01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:05.600
<v Speaker 1>would have just told them, hey, I'm not going to

1232
01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and let another judge take this

1233
01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:11.720
<v Speaker 1>so that there's you know, clear clear conscience here. But

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01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:14.760
<v Speaker 1>they don't do that. And you mentioned Morrissey earlier in

1235
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:20.000
<v Speaker 1>his campaign. Who the hell takes campaign contributions from their subordinate?

1236
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:25.039
<v Speaker 1>Only jackasses like this do that? Like totally illegal? Where

1237
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I work to do something like that.

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01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:28.199
<v Speaker 4>I don't understand.

1239
01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:32.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand how. First of all, so these state

1240
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:36.439
<v Speaker 2>troopers that are assigned to each DA's office, it used

1241
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:38.439
<v Speaker 2>to be called c pack, now I guess in the

1242
01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:43.920
<v Speaker 2>state police detective unit that's assigned to each individual DA.

1243
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:50.199
<v Speaker 4>I can't see more of an obvious ethics violation. If

1244
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:55.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm Trooper Uric bu Kennick or Brian Tully or.

1245
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Michael Procter, and you've risen to the to the height

1246
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:03.760
<v Speaker 2>of being a state police detective, and now you're assigned

1247
01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:08.239
<v Speaker 2>to your home county, and now you're working for meet

1248
01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Paul Morrissey and you get to donate to his campaign,

1249
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:15.600
<v Speaker 2>how is that not an obvious violation of state ethics

1250
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:16.920
<v Speaker 2>ethics laws.

1251
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:18.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how they get away with that.

1252
01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know. They just don't follow well,

1253
01:14:21.800 --> 01:14:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you how they don't follow the law.

1254
01:14:25.239 --> 01:14:27.359
<v Speaker 1>That's what we see is they just don't. They say,

1255
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:30.600
<v Speaker 1>we enforce the law, we prosecute the law. We do

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<v Speaker 1>not follow the law. And what I learned way back

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01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:37.920
<v Speaker 1>when I was an administration of justice at Dean in

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01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:41.079
<v Speaker 1>the in the eighties and I took administration of justice,

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01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.840
<v Speaker 1>we enforced the law, and we follow the law. Well

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01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:49.119
<v Speaker 1>that's second part. Yeah, that's we don't do that part.

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<v Speaker 1>That's no good.

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01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:52.159
<v Speaker 4>I was a state employee.

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01:14:52.199 --> 01:14:54.800
<v Speaker 2>They used to make us sit through our yearly training

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01:14:54.840 --> 01:14:55.720
<v Speaker 2>and one of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Was the whole state ethics thing.

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01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't give a you can't give you a

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01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:06.880
<v Speaker 2>boss a gift more than ten dollars exactly. Yes, they

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01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:10.119
<v Speaker 2>make you sit through this PowerPoint thing and you're going

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01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:14.239
<v Speaker 2>to take a test. And then meanwhile all of Da

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01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Meatball's detective troopers of throwing money in his war chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy. Absolutely, I mean, just I took. The federal government

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01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:26.680
<v Speaker 1>has the exact same rule, and I took the exact

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01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:29.680
<v Speaker 1>same class. You cannot give your boss a gift of

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01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:32.439
<v Speaker 1>more than ten dollars for Christmas, and then for if

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01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:35.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a pooled gift. I think there's even a maximum

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01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:38.079
<v Speaker 1>in that. I don't remember what that is. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let Beatrice both read and answer this one.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Why why why didn't Weinberg mention the Dury instructions?

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01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:51.319
<v Speaker 3>He had an opportunity to bring it up. So what

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01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:54.399
<v Speaker 3>I've heard on this is because they were there to

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01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:57.760
<v Speaker 3>argue the law. Right to speak about the law, not

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01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:01.880
<v Speaker 3>to give, you know, the all the other stuff around it.

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01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Yep, extraneous. They would have cut you right off. If

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<v Speaker 1>you remember that female judge, judge Bud I think her

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01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:13.840
<v Speaker 1>name was, that was a justice Budge I should should

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01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:17.239
<v Speaker 1>say uh was questioning Weinberg and she wouldn't even let

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01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:19.399
<v Speaker 1>him give up. He's like, no, She's like, I don't

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01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:21.119
<v Speaker 1>want to hear an answer. I want to hear a statute.

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01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a statue? Do you have a statue?

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01:16:23.720 --> 01:16:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Then I guess the answer is no. So what what

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01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:29.920
<v Speaker 1>she's saying is they have compartmentalized down to a very

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01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:35.800
<v Speaker 1>very narrow focus. Not the fact that Melanie Little has

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01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:38.800
<v Speaker 1>thirty years in a law degree and didn't understand Bev's

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01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:42.960
<v Speaker 1>instructions and were extremely confusing. And she said something to

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01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the effect of, where my verbal instructions conflict with the

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01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:54.560
<v Speaker 1>written instructions that you've been giving go with my verbal instructions. Well,

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01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:58.159
<v Speaker 1>you idiot, the hell they're going to remember that like

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01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a week from now what you just blathered about for

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01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:04.000
<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes. I mean, and.

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01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:07.520
<v Speaker 2>And how how does Marty how does Marty Weinberg bring

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<v Speaker 2>that up in front of the s JC today?

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01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:10.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, by the way.

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01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:17.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, Uh, Judge Beverly Cannoni's jury instructions were convoluted

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01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:19.319
<v Speaker 2>and confusing, and.

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01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:21.359
<v Speaker 4>She changed them a couple of times.

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01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:25.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, the defense came out and asked to rewrite

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01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:31.359
<v Speaker 2>the verdict slip, and then Beverly, you know, Judge Canoni

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01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:36.119
<v Speaker 2>added all these convoluted, uh jury instructions, like how does

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01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:40.439
<v Speaker 2>the even forward that to the s JC or present that?

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01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:43.239
<v Speaker 4>So I think that's why he just didn't go there.

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01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:46.720
<v Speaker 1>You can't they they will not let you, and it'll

1312
01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:51.119
<v Speaker 1>it'll weaken your argument. Your argument has to be focused

1313
01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:55.119
<v Speaker 1>and compartmentalized down to the very questions that they're asking you,

1314
01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's it. And then they interrupt you and do

1315
01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:02.159
<v Speaker 1>the whole nine yards. And Melanie adjudicated it as about

1316
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:05.439
<v Speaker 1>fifty to fifty in terms of difficulty. I thought it

1317
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:10.239
<v Speaker 1>was slightly harder on Marty only because I thought that

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01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:15.439
<v Speaker 1>female justice was very, very incisive. She was like a

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01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:19.600
<v Speaker 1>scalpel cutting around and making sure that there was just

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01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that very narrowly focused. She did a great job. Can't

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01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:26.640
<v Speaker 1>argue with that. And then they also, you know, took

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01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:30.319
<v Speaker 1>some shots at because they tried to say, oh, well,

1323
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:32.880
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go and you're gonna make the jury redelivered

1324
01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And he said, no, we're not, you know, And they

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01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:39.479
<v Speaker 1>they made sure that that person representing the commonwealth, that

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01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:42.880
<v Speaker 1>attorney knew that. No, they want to know were you

1327
01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:46.560
<v Speaker 1>did you voto quit or not, because there's a whole

1328
01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:49.920
<v Speaker 1>other argument that Aiden's got that where that jury was

1329
01:18:49.960 --> 01:18:53.039
<v Speaker 1>pushing people around. He was telling them they didn't have that.

1330
01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Foreman was telling him they didn't have the right to

1331
01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:59.119
<v Speaker 1>do X and y. And then you have people that

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01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:02.199
<v Speaker 1>were pro care and read that were thrown off the

1333
01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:05.800
<v Speaker 1>case three days before or some one of them even

1334
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:09.279
<v Speaker 1>the day of deliberations. They might have replaced somebody. And

1335
01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:11.239
<v Speaker 1>then you had John Fanning at the trial. What the

1336
01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:14.079
<v Speaker 1>hell was he doing there? So there's a zill Hey,

1337
01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:21.920
<v Speaker 1>what's up, Irish home girl moving over from the quad there.

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01:19:22.119 --> 01:19:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, if you if you believe the corruption that

1339
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:29.119
<v Speaker 2>took place not only in this whole thing, but the

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01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:35.000
<v Speaker 2>trial itself, and if you believe that the jury Foreman

1341
01:19:35.159 --> 01:19:39.920
<v Speaker 2>was planted and that he was manipulating the situation, you

1342
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:41.520
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, that's another rabbit hole.

1343
01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:47.640
<v Speaker 1>And then he was following anti Karen Reid groups and

1344
01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:53.560
<v Speaker 1>profiles like within three days after the trial, not that

1345
01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:54.439
<v Speaker 1>that would have happened.

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01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if I go down that rabbit hole, if

1347
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the foreman being planted I did. I don't even think

1348
01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:06.600
<v Speaker 2>he wrote those letters to the judge. It sounds like

1349
01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Ladley wrote him to be honest.

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01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:16.760
<v Speaker 1>That is awesome, all right. Well, we have a couple

1351
01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:18.760
<v Speaker 1>of things that a couple of things that we want

1352
01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:21.760
<v Speaker 1>to say. One is, as you can see, our Julie

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01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:24.920
<v Speaker 1>from Indiana is not here tonight as a chat moderator.

1354
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:27.720
<v Speaker 1>If you'd like to be a moderator for calling all beings,

1355
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:32.920
<v Speaker 1>please hit me up calling all Beings the numeral one

1356
01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:38.359
<v Speaker 1>at Gmail, and I'll hook it up and make you

1357
01:20:38.399 --> 01:20:41.079
<v Speaker 1>a chat moderator on here and we would certainly greatly

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01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:46.000
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Also, I've made a bet, and you know

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01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Scott and Beatrice are going to hold me to this

1360
01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:54.359
<v Speaker 1>if we find out that, in fact, Hank Brennan actually

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01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:58.640
<v Speaker 1>only got seventy five thousand dollars to prosecute this case,

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01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:03.560
<v Speaker 1>which I do not believe at all none. If that's

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01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:07.159
<v Speaker 1>proven to be true, I will do a shoey, which

1364
01:21:07.239 --> 01:21:12.439
<v Speaker 1>is the austral which is the Australian version of drinking

1365
01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:15.479
<v Speaker 1>a beer out of somebody's shoe. I will take a

1366
01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:19.359
<v Speaker 1>beer out of Turtle Boy's shoe next Halloween party next year,

1367
01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:23.119
<v Speaker 1>because there is no way that dude's only getting seventy

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01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:26.760
<v Speaker 1>five grand. I don't believe that memo if my life

1369
01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:30.560
<v Speaker 1>depended on it. No way, no way. That's like minimum

1370
01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:35.399
<v Speaker 1>wage for a dude like famnhnk. So if that's proven

1371
01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:36.880
<v Speaker 1>to be true, though, you guys will see me do

1372
01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:40.640
<v Speaker 1>a shoey from you know, Turtle Boys Converse All Stars

1373
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:41.359
<v Speaker 1>next time.

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01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:43.279
<v Speaker 2>He was saying he had to hire him because he

1375
01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:45.239
<v Speaker 2>couldn't get any of his own ada's in.

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01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:47.000
<v Speaker 4>His own office to do trial too.

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01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's another thing. But I still don't want what

1378
01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:52.560
<v Speaker 1>they said. I don't believe what they're paying them. There's

1379
01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:56.319
<v Speaker 1>no way, in no way that's that is a lie,

1380
01:21:56.920 --> 01:21:59.000
<v Speaker 1>lie lie that they're going to try to hide in

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01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:02.479
<v Speaker 1>their budget somewhere, right, Beatrice, Yes.

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01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:05.479
<v Speaker 2>But they they paid Mellow more than that to go

1383
01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:09.159
<v Speaker 2>after Turtle Boy.

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01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:12.880
<v Speaker 1>No, I know, Mellow made more. Cosgrove made what another

1385
01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Howie Carr put that a while ago. Cosgrove made another

1386
01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:19.199
<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand dollars off of this case or something

1387
01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:24.199
<v Speaker 1>like that. In retirement. So yeah, man and and Mark

1388
01:22:24.279 --> 01:22:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought was very generous in his his letters the

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01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:33.039
<v Speaker 1>address Cosgrove. I'm not too sure that he's so innocent.

1390
01:22:33.079 --> 01:22:35.960
<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think about that about Cosgrove? You

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01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:38.399
<v Speaker 1>trust him? Do you think he's not in the know?

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01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:44.520
<v Speaker 4>Betterros just being cordial?

1393
01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:49.039
<v Speaker 2>You know what I meant, isn't better, isn't just gonna

1394
01:22:49.039 --> 01:22:51.399
<v Speaker 2>come out and say, yeah, Cosgrove was corrupted?

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01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:54.199
<v Speaker 4>Mellow? You know what I mean. He's just taking the

1396
01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:54.720
<v Speaker 4>high road.

1397
01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:59.479
<v Speaker 1>He's being a statesman, right, diplomatic.

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01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:02.399
<v Speaker 4>Better Better I was no dummy at all, you know

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01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:02.800
<v Speaker 4>what I mean?

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01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Like he he's not gonna say anything bombastic or accuse

1401
01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:10.039
<v Speaker 2>a toy like that might be what he's thinking, but

1402
01:23:10.039 --> 01:23:11.000
<v Speaker 2>he's not gonna say it.

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01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you there, homegirl. I love Melanie Little Show.

1404
01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>She's just so cool, so funny and so knowledgeable and witty.

1405
01:23:20.439 --> 01:23:23.039
<v Speaker 1>So I enjoy the hell out of it. You will,

1406
01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:26.239
<v Speaker 1>hear me pump up other content creators content on here

1407
01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:29.119
<v Speaker 1>you I can assure you of that. From Nurse Kim

1408
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to Melanie to Mike my Boy, Mike Young, Jerks, Masa

1409
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh Turtle, bizle we Man, the Big doggle so and

1410
01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously Sean. You know Sean's been.

1411
01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Hey, keep talking, I'll be right, I'll be right back.

1412
01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:49.000
<v Speaker 4>Keep talking.

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01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, we're gonna go ahead, go to the bathroom,

1414
01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:53.800
<v Speaker 1>take a biological break. We're gonna close the show here

1415
01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:56.399
<v Speaker 1>in a minute. Let's see if we got any final

1416
01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any final thoughts? Beatriz? You want to

1417
01:23:58.520 --> 01:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>see if the chat has anything.

1418
01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:03.039
<v Speaker 3>I actually do want to. I have two little reminders

1419
01:24:03.039 --> 01:24:07.279
<v Speaker 3>that I wanted to bring up. I know Scott mentioned

1420
01:24:07.319 --> 01:24:12.239
<v Speaker 3>about the Combined Standout next Wednesday, November thirteenth. It's at

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01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:16.119
<v Speaker 3>from two to five at DA Morrissey's office at forty

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01:24:16.119 --> 01:24:19.319
<v Speaker 3>five shaw Matt Road in Canton, mass I will be

1423
01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:22.159
<v Speaker 3>there too. I've planned to be there the whole time.

1424
01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Karen also has court that morning I also plan to attend.

1425
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:31.079
<v Speaker 3>And then I just speaking of content creators, I am

1426
01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:34.479
<v Speaker 3>going to be going on Miss Shorty Show this Friday,

1427
01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:37.880
<v Speaker 3>seven pm Eastern Time with Gen Route, so we can

1428
01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:42.520
<v Speaker 3>get out there and talk about Justin Root's story and

1429
01:24:42.600 --> 01:24:47.960
<v Speaker 3>let everybody know what's going on with that. And yeah,

1430
01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:51.920
<v Speaker 3>so if you haven't been to a standout, come join

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01:24:52.039 --> 01:24:56.039
<v Speaker 3>us again. November thirteenth, two to five in Canton.

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01:24:58.640 --> 01:25:00.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, are you going Wednesday? I just heard you

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01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:01.479
<v Speaker 4>say that.

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01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna go. So, yes, I'm going to Denim

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01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:08.720
<v Speaker 3>in the morning and then I'm gonna go to the

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01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:10.920
<v Speaker 3>DA's office in the afternoon. So I'm going to hang

1437
01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:11.640
<v Speaker 3>around there.

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01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:16.840
<v Speaker 4>It's a good long day. We get two events in yes, yes.

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01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:20.159
<v Speaker 1>If you guys are such warriors. And what I was

1440
01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about, we're getting ready to close the

1441
01:25:22.520 --> 01:25:26.520
<v Speaker 1>show here. We were going to have Christina on who's

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01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:29.439
<v Speaker 1>supporting from Indiana. I don't know what's happened tonight. I

1443
01:25:29.479 --> 01:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>hope everything's good or I hope she didn't get the

1444
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:36.319
<v Speaker 1>time the time thing wrong, because you know she's on Central.

1445
01:25:36.359 --> 01:25:39.239
<v Speaker 1>You guys are on Eastern on a mountain. So anyway,

1446
01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:44.079
<v Speaker 1>but it is great that people are supporting. And I'm

1447
01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:46.399
<v Speaker 1>not trying to pap myself on the back. Really Christina

1448
01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that she's so invested in this. I'm just to give

1449
01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you an idea how invested Christina is in this. She

1450
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:58.199
<v Speaker 1>is not covering the Delphi case in Indiana because she's

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01:25:58.279 --> 01:26:03.279
<v Speaker 1>so invested in Massachusetts corruption and Karen Reid and Sandra

1452
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and and she's done this before and she's very very passionate.

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01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>She's like everybody everyone, we all love law enforcement. She

1454
01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>but she's very very passionate about holding a corrupt law

1455
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:20.640
<v Speaker 1>enforcement accountable for what they do. So people stand with you.

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01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Britt from down there in Florida. She's going to have

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01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:29.399
<v Speaker 1>She's going to have Jen Jen, Justin's sister, and Beatriz

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01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>on she's in for Walton Beach. She lives and dies

1459
01:26:33.199 --> 01:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>with this case man every moment that she's not working

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01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:41.159
<v Speaker 1>taking care of Go ahead Justin en route.

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01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:46.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's part of my.

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01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:51.960
<v Speaker 4>Part of my my hat.

1463
01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I love it the way you got. You guys inspire us.

1464
01:26:56.840 --> 01:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>You guys inspire us to do this and to be

1465
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:03.039
<v Speaker 1>We see what you're going through. We know that you're

1466
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>imperiled to varying degrees. Certainly when you're going out and

1467
01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:11.399
<v Speaker 1>you're you know, and you're standing out there and people

1468
01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:14.239
<v Speaker 1>from the other side can be writing down your license

1469
01:27:14.239 --> 01:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>plates and messing with your vehicle and doing all these

1470
01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. So we know that you're courageous. What

1471
01:27:22.920 --> 01:27:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Richie did you know with the ducks and then having

1472
01:27:27.760 --> 01:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>some you know, shithead come to his place of business

1473
01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and arrest him, Like this is serious because Chris Alberts,

1474
01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:36.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little baby, and he had a little

1475
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>dikerrash over there. You know, he has a little DestinE

1476
01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:42.079
<v Speaker 1>powder on his backside.

1477
01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:45.199
<v Speaker 4>I guess never I've never seen somebody so protected like him.

1478
01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:46.119
<v Speaker 4>It's ridiculous.

1479
01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I know. Yeah, he might as well be Hannibal Lecter

1480
01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and that thing with the thing over his jaws. So

1481
01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>we got to say hello to Julie. Julie wasn't Julie

1482
01:27:56.399 --> 01:27:58.720
<v Speaker 1>was at the doctor. She says, she has a doctor's

1483
01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>note if you would police facts that to me, Jules,

1484
01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. I'm glad you made it here, love,

1485
01:28:06.680 --> 01:28:09.079
<v Speaker 1>and I hope that you are feeling well. And I

1486
01:28:09.439 --> 01:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>do want to also tell you, Jules, that your feelings

1487
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>about the trial with Richard Allen, we're pretty pretty on target, man,

1488
01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't know anything about this case. Julie is

1489
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>a even though she lives in Alabama. Uh, and she's

1490
01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>also invested in this trial. She came she came here

1491
01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>with me from UFOs and had this case. You know,

1492
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:37.680
<v Speaker 1>she was into it inside of like five days. So,

1493
01:28:39.479 --> 01:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>but she about Richard Allen, she said, yeah, I feel

1494
01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>like something's wrong here. I feel like they're railroading this guy.

1495
01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:48.239
<v Speaker 1>And now you could go to lawyer Lee, you can

1496
01:28:48.279 --> 01:28:51.199
<v Speaker 1>go to Melanie Little, you can go to Andrea Burkhart.

1497
01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>There all over this case. There's another woman who's prolific,

1498
01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and they absolutely have railroading this guy, put him in

1499
01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:02.359
<v Speaker 1>solitary confinement and till he was smearing feces on his face.

1500
01:29:03.880 --> 01:29:06.039
<v Speaker 1>All kinds of stuff that they've done to Richard Allen,

1501
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and they really don't have a lot to go on,

1502
01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:12.079
<v Speaker 1>uh than to the fact that he called law enforcement

1503
01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to help. So anyway, it is man. But but

1504
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:24.319
<v Speaker 1>even even still, Christina is more invested in in this

1505
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>case uh than she is in the case. It's in

1506
01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:33.239
<v Speaker 1>her home state, so like it is, Yeah, I mean

1507
01:29:33.319 --> 01:29:36.079
<v Speaker 1>she can't We all wake up and wonder how you

1508
01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>guys are doing there in Massachusetts, And when are you're

1509
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna be safe? You know, when are you not gonna

1510
01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.119
<v Speaker 1>worry that if you get pulled over? You know, when

1511
01:29:44.119 --> 01:29:46.239
<v Speaker 1>you have one of these shirts on, what would happen?

1512
01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>You know? We worry about that. I because I I

1513
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>when I was driving down four ninety five and headed

1514
01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:55.479
<v Speaker 1>down to Dean College, I was thinking about, man, this

1515
01:29:55.479 --> 01:29:58.079
<v Speaker 1>would be messed up for me, what about these folks

1516
01:29:58.119 --> 01:30:00.399
<v Speaker 1>that live here, you know, and all the people I

1517
01:30:00.479 --> 01:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>just met last night at the party. You know what

1518
01:30:03.079 --> 01:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>if they got posted in one of these costumes or

1519
01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:09.119
<v Speaker 1>they're like looking like Judge Bev or have Karen Reid

1520
01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff on, you know what would one of these police

1521
01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>officers do? I mean, what would they be able to

1522
01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:16.159
<v Speaker 1>get away with? Would they turn the body camera off?

1523
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because we saw what happened with Justin

1524
01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Root's case.

1525
01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:24.079
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but it's like even today, like all the

1526
01:30:24.199 --> 01:30:27.119
<v Speaker 2>State Police Community Action Team guys, we.

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01:30:27.479 --> 01:30:29.479
<v Speaker 4>Know, we know all of them, and they know all

1528
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:33.640
<v Speaker 4>of us, you know what I mean. Like I saw

1529
01:30:33.880 --> 01:30:37.279
<v Speaker 4>Sergeant Hardman this morning and his crew. We all know

1530
01:30:37.399 --> 01:30:38.560
<v Speaker 4>each other, you know what I mean.

1531
01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:40.079
<v Speaker 1>So I don't cool with you.

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01:30:40.680 --> 01:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like, you know, they're gonna come after

1533
01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:45.640
<v Speaker 2>me or anything.

1534
01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:50.239
<v Speaker 1>But but but in Canton, if you something happened with

1535
01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:54.159
<v Speaker 1>the ducks, you would fear that, like if you had

1536
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a duck in your car.

1537
01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:57.279
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm not saying. I'm not saying if I

1538
01:30:57.319 --> 01:30:59.439
<v Speaker 4>didn't put it a Rubbert ducking in front.

1539
01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Of Brian Albert shop, that I wasn't I wasn't going

1540
01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>to be given a summons.

1541
01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:04.640
<v Speaker 4>To court just like everybody else.

1542
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but as fire as like being in danger from

1543
01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:12.199
<v Speaker 2>the state police that cover our security, I don't feel

1544
01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:13.239
<v Speaker 2>threatened by them at all.

1545
01:31:14.199 --> 01:31:16.079
<v Speaker 1>That's good, That's really good.

1546
01:31:16.119 --> 01:31:20.439
<v Speaker 3>How about you, Bia, I mean, I definitely I'm more

1547
01:31:20.439 --> 01:31:23.079
<v Speaker 3>aware of my surroundings, to be honest with you. And

1548
01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:26.520
<v Speaker 3>since I've been you know, more public and going to standouts,

1549
01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:29.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, I do find myself I don't want to

1550
01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:33.119
<v Speaker 3>say paranoid, but if my dogs start barking, I'm running

1551
01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:37.159
<v Speaker 3>to the window, like I don't know, it's like and again,

1552
01:31:37.439 --> 01:31:40.399
<v Speaker 3>it may just be just how I'm failing, like I

1553
01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:44.479
<v Speaker 3>don't know. But I've definitely been more vocal. You know,

1554
01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:46.520
<v Speaker 3>I was behind the scenes for a while and I've

1555
01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:48.760
<v Speaker 3>been coming out a little more. I've been going to

1556
01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:51.880
<v Speaker 3>standouts for a while now, and you know, try to

1557
01:31:51.920 --> 01:31:56.279
<v Speaker 3>show my support where I can, so, you know, it

1558
01:31:56.399 --> 01:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>definitely makes you I feel like I'm more aware because

1559
01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:02.640
<v Speaker 3>as I keep thinking, you know, the bad people are

1560
01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:03.880
<v Speaker 3>still in our state.

1561
01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:07.119
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's I think that's fair. I mean, that's

1562
01:32:07.119 --> 01:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>how I was thinking. I'm glad that that Scott doesn't

1563
01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>not have that weighing on his mind, and granted he

1564
01:32:12.880 --> 01:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>was you know, he's former, he's from the criminal justice system.

1565
01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>He may have a certain comfort. Obviously Peter has been threatened,

1566
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:26.039
<v Speaker 1>but you know he's not scared. So you meet Peter,

1567
01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely not scared. Sheret He says one of your

1568
01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>guests last week calling all beings, getting followed by five. Oh,

1569
01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:37.319
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting, Sherry. You don't have to share with us

1570
01:32:37.640 --> 01:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>who that is unless that's something that they have cleared

1571
01:32:41.920 --> 01:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>to be shared, or if they don't want people to know.

1572
01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:45.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I heard that too.

1573
01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you want to share it, or if they've

1574
01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:53.119
<v Speaker 1>authorized you to share it, share it, and if not,

1575
01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>then don't. All right, that's all we got. We had

1576
01:32:58.159 --> 01:33:01.159
<v Speaker 1>parting shots. We had Beatrice call out that she's going

1577
01:33:01.199 --> 01:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>to be on Friday with Miss Shorty, her and Jen

1578
01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:06.399
<v Speaker 1>whose last name is now not Root, but she is

1579
01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>just on sister. She's fire, Beatrice's fire. That should be

1580
01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and Shorty Fire should be a damn good show. Scott,

1581
01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>what do you got coming as anything you want to

1582
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about? Any social media anything you want me to

1583
01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>promote in the show notes? Anything?

1584
01:33:24.680 --> 01:33:28.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I'm busy modering.

1585
01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:32.359
<v Speaker 4>I've occasionally I guessed on a few shows, but nothing

1586
01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:32.840
<v Speaker 4>coming up.

1587
01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I had you tonight and occasionally I'm on Aussie Insider,

1588
01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>but I'm busy moding all the time.

1589
01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:42.600
<v Speaker 4>That's what I do, or protesting.

1590
01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:47.039
<v Speaker 1>I love it, man, I love I love that you

1591
01:33:47.039 --> 01:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>guys are doing that, and it makes me wish sometimes

1592
01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I was retired and I could dedicate my life to

1593
01:33:52.920 --> 01:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, just like working out, protesting and hanging out

1594
01:33:55.880 --> 01:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>with my friends on YouTube would be awesome.

1595
01:33:58.960 --> 01:33:59.840
<v Speaker 4>Pretty much what I'm doing.

1596
01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:04.439
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, all right, then we will close it out.

1597
01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to thank everybody that's here in the chat.

1598
01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I see Sheridy, Julie, Glenn Lake. What's up, Homie? He's saying,

1599
01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:17.319
<v Speaker 1>he was thinking, Kelly, who I met today? All of

1600
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:22.479
<v Speaker 1>you guys. I really appreciate you being here and we

1601
01:34:22.520 --> 01:34:24.039
<v Speaker 1>will see you in Massachusetts soon.

1602
01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:26.159
<v Speaker 4>Jenny, come to.

1603
01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:27.960
<v Speaker 3>The standout on the thirteen.

1604
01:34:29.159 --> 01:34:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, let me get the date on that November thirteenth,

1605
01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:39.359
<v Speaker 1>that's Wednesday. Next Wednesday, comes to the standout, have a

1606
01:34:39.439 --> 01:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>meatball sandwich if.

1607
01:34:40.920 --> 01:34:45.680
<v Speaker 4>I am a jetum for Karen Reid's rule seventeen motion.

1608
01:34:46.920 --> 01:34:48.560
<v Speaker 4>And then it's two to five.

1609
01:34:48.359 --> 01:34:53.560
<v Speaker 2>At Die Morrissey's office, set Road and Canton.

1610
01:34:54.359 --> 01:34:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys are so badass. I love you guys.

1611
01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:03.359
<v Speaker 1>All right on, behalf of Beatrice and Scott. This is

1612
01:35:03.439 --> 01:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>DJ saying peace out, one love, We'll see you down

1613
01:35:08.960 --> 01:35:11.439
<v Speaker 1>the road. And as always, we're wondering what's up around

1614
01:35:11.479 --> 01:35:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the Bend.
