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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty Handle Morning Crew on a Foody Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>March fourteenth, Pie Day three fourteen, of course coming up

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<v Speaker 2>at I love Fridays because especially the last hour because

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<v Speaker 2>we have Foody Friday, which means Neil and I get

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<v Speaker 2>into it with food, which we do all the time anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>And then at eight thirty it is to ask handle

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<v Speaker 2>anything we end the show with embarrassing me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, one of the big stories that we are covering,

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<v Speaker 2>and it affects every one of us, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>the government shutdown maybe and unless there is what's called

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<v Speaker 2>a stop gap bill to keep the government running because

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<v Speaker 2>Congress has to vote itself. The ability now it is

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<v Speaker 2>to borrow money because the income of the government is

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<v Speaker 2>far far less than the expenditure by the two trillion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a year insane deficit anyway, so your usually there

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<v Speaker 2>is a stop gap bill when you're about to shut down.

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<v Speaker 2>The government's about to shut down, and it turns out

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<v Speaker 2>that Republicans and Democrats can't agree. So here's what the

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans did. They want a bill that extends to September,

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<v Speaker 2>allowing all the negotiations to go in for the fiscal year,

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<v Speaker 2>which means you're halfway.

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<v Speaker 1>We're halfway through this now it's a kind of October November.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, three months into the fiscal year before there is

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<v Speaker 2>a budget agreement. And usually what they do is they

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<v Speaker 2>cut a deal which continues the government with no changes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, while we're figuring this that we'll leave the

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<v Speaker 2>government alone. All right, We'll leave the budget alone and then.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll figure this out. Republican are saying no. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>have introduced the bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Their bill is we'll have the stop gap bill, but

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<v Speaker 2>here's what we want in it. And this is where

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats are going completely crazy. What it is is

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<v Speaker 2>it takes away a lot of governmental programs, education programs,

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<v Speaker 2>programs to various disability issues. I mean, it just goes

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<v Speaker 2>on and on, substance abuse treatment, international peacekeeping, the DC

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<v Speaker 2>budget because the federal government pays.

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<v Speaker 1>For Washington d C.

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<v Speaker 2>And federal government in this case, because it's a Trump

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<v Speaker 2>government hates Washington d C. Because it is a very

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<v Speaker 2>liberal area and it's a city state sort of things

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<v Speaker 2>very unique. So in any case, here's the Democrats dilemma.

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<v Speaker 2>If they say no to that bill. Therefore, the government

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<v Speaker 2>shuts down Saturday night, shutting down meaning that only essential

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<v Speaker 2>workers are allowed to get paid, and the government can't

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<v Speaker 2>borrow money. And literally, if it can't borrow money to

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<v Speaker 2>keep on going, it doesn't keep on going. So the

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans say, okay, we're going to keep on going, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is what we want in the bill.

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<v Speaker 1>We want those cuts. But wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually you have a stopgap bill that sort of keeps

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<v Speaker 2>everything the same. Nope, not this time around. So now

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<v Speaker 2>it's up to the Senate House. It's already passed. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's up to the Senate. Chuck Schumer, who is the

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<v Speaker 2>minority leader, said, oh, we have enough Democrats to keep

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<v Speaker 2>this from going forward. Well that was on Thursday, or

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<v Speaker 2>that was on Wednesday, next day Thursday. He changes his

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<v Speaker 2>mind because look at he calls it a Hobson's choice,

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<v Speaker 2>which is true. If the Democrats stop this, which they could,

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<v Speaker 2>if all the Democrats voted that way, then they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be blamed for the shutdown. The Republicans are already saying,

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking at a Schumer shutdown. Now if they let

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<v Speaker 2>the government run out, where the uh, the stopgap bill

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<v Speaker 2>isn't passed, then what happens is that the president has

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<v Speaker 2>complete power to determine, for example, which employees are essential,

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<v Speaker 2>which employees are non essential. It gives Trump enormous more

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<v Speaker 2>power to run the government during a period in which

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<v Speaker 2>there is no budget. So the Democrats are looking, we

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<v Speaker 2>have no choice. Look what the Republicans did to us.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, it's a good move on the Republicans,

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<v Speaker 2>very smart political move.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have everything.

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<v Speaker 2>They have the House, they have the Senate, they have

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<v Speaker 2>the White House, so they have a lot of power.

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<v Speaker 2>Obama had the same thing in his first two years.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you think Obamacare got passed? Well, it changes midterms.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it going to change midterm this thing this time?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if there is a recession, I think if

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<v Speaker 2>people lose their jobs by the handful, I think if

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<v Speaker 2>businesses do not move in the do not move as

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<v Speaker 2>quickly as Trump promises, do not make as much money

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<v Speaker 2>where people as he said, you're going to be better off. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there may be a slight delay. I mean he went

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<v Speaker 2>from day one, I'm going to change everything. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have the best economy in the world, to now, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a period of adjustment and then.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to have the greatest period in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>If none of that happens, I think the Republicans are

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<v Speaker 2>going to get nailed in the midterm, nailed. But for

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<v Speaker 2>the next two years, things like this are going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Will fund the stop gap, We'll pass it. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>what we want.

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<v Speaker 2>And you Democrats have no choice because you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get blamed for shutdown. As a matter of fact, I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of Republicans want to shut down of

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<v Speaker 2>the government because first of all, the Democrats get blamed.

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<v Speaker 2>Second of all, their president gets even more power than

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<v Speaker 2>he has now. By the way, that's the biggest fight

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<v Speaker 2>that's going on in the United States right now. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the largest number of lawsuits that have been filed

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<v Speaker 2>against the federal government and how to remember how many

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<v Speaker 2>years and it's all about the president's power.

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<v Speaker 1>How far does it go? Right now? Trump is not

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<v Speaker 1>winning a lot of it. But we'll see what the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court has to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, moving on to the story of undocumented immigrants and

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<v Speaker 2>undocumented health care. Gavin Newsom has been very proud of

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that California is the first state in the

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<v Speaker 2>nation to offer health care to all income eligible immigrants

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<v Speaker 2>one year ago as people who don't have any money,

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<v Speaker 2>which is virtually all virtual the illegal immigrants. Nine point

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<v Speaker 2>five billion dollar price tag for state sponsored healthcare for

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<v Speaker 2>undocumented immigrants is not only is it expensive, it's three

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars above the budget estimate and is expected to grow.

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<v Speaker 2>Now new some of the Democrats under.

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<v Speaker 1>Big pressure to hey, reduce that coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just way too expensive, especially since California is under

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<v Speaker 2>a budget crunch right now. I mean, there's no issue

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<v Speaker 2>used to have surpluses that were astronomical. Now they're going

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<v Speaker 2>the other way. For example, you go to Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty liberal guy. He proposed a three hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>back his expansion of healthcare coverage for undocumented illegal aliens.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's getting really expensive here in California and expected

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<v Speaker 1>There's an assembly member Carl.

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<v Speaker 2>Demeyo who's always on joining on John Cobot show. He's

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<v Speaker 1>He says we.

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<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't bury these costs. Period, especially in a budget crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>And where are the politics here? Oh my god, this

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<v Speaker 2>whole issue is ridden riddled with politics. So California's position

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<v Speaker 2>coverage for all residents, illegal or not, we become a

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<v Speaker 2>that healthcare here in California is a mechanism by which

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats attract and retain illegal immigrants by essentially paying them

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<v Speaker 2>to come here and then turning them into voters. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how many illegal immigrants have become voters in

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<v Speaker 2>the last five years. None, or it's almost infinitesimal. I

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<v Speaker 2>must say Democrats are pushing hard to maximize payments to illegals.

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<v Speaker 2>Free luxury hotels in New York, free medical care for

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<v Speaker 2>illegals in California, And that's for their future voter base.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, you know, I don't think that's the reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think Democrats view that healthcare should be for everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>illegal or not, no matter how expensive it is. And

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<v Speaker 2>in this day and age, you know, there's just not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of money there and where do you cut?

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<v Speaker 2>And now here is the difference in political outlook of

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<v Speaker 2>life in general? If you're a liberal Democrat you give

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<v Speaker 2>health care to everybody in the United States, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>immigrant status.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a conservative, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't illegals are illegals or illegal immigrants are illegal immigrants?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there undocumented I don't even if say, you can

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<v Speaker 2>say illegal undocumented immigrants.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any way for us to back charge or

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<v Speaker 1>have an agreement with Mexico?

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<v Speaker 2>Which or sure Mexico agree, Yeah, Mexico agrees to it,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're going to for sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, yeah, yeah, you can argue that.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone coming over the border is the money has to

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<v Speaker 2>be paid for any.

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<v Speaker 1>Health care that undocumented immigrants are voting even legally.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they're not. No, they're not. There is virtually no

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<v Speaker 2>evidence that there is. It's the other way. Actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans are arguing. Trump argued during the election, there.

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<v Speaker 1>Are millions and millions.

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<v Speaker 2>Of people who are illegal, and that's just not who voted.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just not true. It's simply an allegation the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>want to pay for illegal immigrants medical care just to

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<v Speaker 2>make them voters.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, I mean, that's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, they do want to pay because they believe it's

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<v Speaker 2>a very liberal approach that everybody, everybody gets medical care

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<v Speaker 2>come hell or high water, and Medicaid, particular medical which

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<v Speaker 2>is our version of medicaid, which gives medical care to

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<v Speaker 2>people that are extraordinary poor. It really goes to if

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<v Speaker 2>we give medical care to illegal immigrants, which we do

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<v Speaker 2>right now under Newsom's plan, it's almost every illegal immigrant.

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<v Speaker 2>Because illegal immigrants have no money, they do not buy

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<v Speaker 2>medical insurance. They just don't. And if everybody is entitled

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<v Speaker 2>know what that means is that proportionally illegal immigrants are

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<v Speaker 2>going to get far more medical care than others.

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<v Speaker 1>I have insurance, you have insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>The illegal immigrant that's crossing the border, which is not

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<v Speaker 2>because Trump has successfully shut down the border, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>fine with, is that person has no money.

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<v Speaker 1>That person walks into.

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<v Speaker 2>An emergency room and has to be treated by law,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way has to be treated. If I walk

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<v Speaker 2>into an emergency room, I'm handed a bill, and I

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<v Speaker 2>either go to Kaiser if I go to another hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>they pay, Kaiser pays the bill. Who pays the bill?

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<v Speaker 2>When someone has no money? Virtually every illegal immigrant we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the government does, And so some states say

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<v Speaker 2>illegal immigrants, too bad, You're on your own if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a medical issue, that's cheaper than California, which says

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<v Speaker 2>everybody gets medical care. Remember, used to have anchor babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Anchor babies were babies that were born of women who

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<v Speaker 2>came over the border, who illegally had the baby. Because again,

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<v Speaker 2>a baby born in the United States is of course

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<v Speaker 2>a citizen, notwithstanding any immigrant status of the parents. And

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<v Speaker 2>so what these anchor baby, how these anchor babies work

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<v Speaker 2>is the prospective mom would sneak over the border and

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<v Speaker 2>go to a hospital where she would get treatment about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred times better than she ever could in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>It was absolutely free, and the kid was an American citizen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it worked, or did work, not anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now moving on that, I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>what happened during the fires. If you remember, of course

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<v Speaker 2>you remember it because it just happened a little while ago.

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<v Speaker 2>During the course of the fire. There was huge controversy

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<v Speaker 2>afterwards when there wasn't enough water where the fire hydrants,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the upper regions of the regions of the Palisades,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have enough water pressure and or there wasn't water

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<v Speaker 2>period in the fire hydrants and we had one of

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<v Speaker 2>those reservoirs that was empty up in the hills, because

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<v Speaker 2>our reservoirs all over up in the hills of southern California,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that.

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<v Speaker 1>Became really controversial.

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<v Speaker 2>And the argument is had there been water pressure, had

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<v Speaker 2>there been that reservoir and it was operating, then that

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<v Speaker 2>would have helped.

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<v Speaker 1>Now fire officials.

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<v Speaker 2>Are saying, people that know fire saying nothing would have helped.

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<v Speaker 2>When you have one hundred mile an hour winds that

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<v Speaker 2>are kicking up fires.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the fire outraces everything and there isn't enough

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<v Speaker 2>water on the planet of any city that could take

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<v Speaker 2>care of it. And the argument, another argument where a

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<v Speaker 2>ton more water it would be available, is that the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of water that was necessary to deal with the fire,

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<v Speaker 2>and even it couldn't be dealt with, let's say it

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<v Speaker 2>would have made an impact on the fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that it would have stopped it, but let's say

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<v Speaker 1>would have made an impact.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's no city in the world that can sustain

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<v Speaker 2>that much water being needed and used for that period

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<v Speaker 2>of time. That's what firefighters and water experts were saying

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<v Speaker 2>and explaining. Not that it matters because the lawsuits have

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<v Speaker 2>already filed, especially against PG and E, because they may

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<v Speaker 2>have started the fire with a power pole, a transmission

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<v Speaker 2>line hitting vegetation under those transmission poles could be don't

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<v Speaker 2>know yet, probably, but that doesn't mean that the fire

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<v Speaker 2>could have been put out.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this thing started, well, we knew.

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<v Speaker 2>We knew because National Weather Service was telling us that

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<v Speaker 2>we are looking at a cataclysmic event coming up, a

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<v Speaker 2>life threatening event with the winds, and if the fire

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<v Speaker 2>is going to start, and it always does someplace, look

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<v Speaker 2>at massive damage and loss of life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were warning us.

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<v Speaker 2>They even warned Karen Bass when she was in Africa,

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<v Speaker 2>of which she promised during a campaign she would not

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<v Speaker 2>leave Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course there was the politics of it there,

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<v Speaker 1>not that it would have changed anything.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, as far as Karen Bass is concerned,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell could she have done if she were

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<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles?

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<v Speaker 1>Just the optics of.

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<v Speaker 2>Her not being here. And anyway, that's the political part.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the other political part, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of water that was released from northern California

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<v Speaker 2>and this was upon the order of President Trump. And

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<v Speaker 2>what happened and what didn't happen and how that was

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<v Speaker 2>pure one hundred percent politics, having nothing at all to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the fire, although it was portrayed that it did.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a segment as to what happened during the fires,

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<v Speaker 2>the Eating Fire, the Palisades Fire, Malibu, and what ended

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<v Speaker 2>up happening was, of course, there was a lack of water.

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<v Speaker 2>There wasn't enough water pressure in the Palisades fire particularly,

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<v Speaker 2>and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Reservoir was empty.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what the President did is ordered water to

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<v Speaker 2>be released from northern California into southern California as some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of aid to the firefighting.

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<v Speaker 1>And the government was told it's going to do nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>That water is not going to go to the Palisades,

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<v Speaker 2>it is not going to Altadena.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just going to be released. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the politics, oh my god, where the politics absolutely terrific.

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<v Speaker 2>The President said, I have released the water. I have

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<v Speaker 2>helped the situation, even though you know the water was not.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what he did did not help, Okay, he

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<v Speaker 2>calls for the federal government to maximize water deliveries in

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<v Speaker 2>California and during the course of the fire. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>a memo that just been released by the government and

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<v Speaker 2>shows how the Army Corps engineers responded, because the Army

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<v Speaker 2>Corps engineers were responsible for this, so they went ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and and they emptied two dams to carry out the water.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though officials knew the water couldn't be moved out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Central Valley as he wished. They released the.

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<v Speaker 2>Water anyway by releasing the dams and downflow the water.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only one bit of good news about that that

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<v Speaker 2>I'll share with you in a minute. So the water,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is water that is held to be used

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<v Speaker 2>during the summer months for irrigation where it's hotter than

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<v Speaker 2>hell in the Central Valley, and he ordered it released

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<v Speaker 2>and flowing down southern California, not to the Palis Aes

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<v Speaker 2>area or Altadena area. Remember that's those two are not connected.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, I release the water. It's a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I have done. I'm paraphrasing, but those

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<v Speaker 2>are his quotes. And it's the Army Corps engineer that.

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<v Speaker 1>Had to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And they did, even though the water managers of the

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<v Speaker 2>various water districts saying what are you doing? This is

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<v Speaker 2>going to do nothing except release the water so there

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<v Speaker 2>won't be water for the summertime for the Central Valley.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, everybody involved. We're told you can't do it,

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<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't do it. And the Army Corps of Engineers,

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<v Speaker 2>according to this memo, responded saying, this is a presidential order.

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<v Speaker 2>The president says, we release the water. We release the water, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, the president does have the authority. No

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<v Speaker 2>one's saying that he didn't have the authority to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just did it make sense? Absolutely not. Was it

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<v Speaker 2>a political issue? Absolutely now. Was the water wasted? Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the one bit of good news.

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<v Speaker 1>The water did not go to anything that it was

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<v Speaker 1>intended to do. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a political move. So the president could say,

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<v Speaker 2>look what I did. I made the water flow. Where

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<v Speaker 2>the water went was it went, It was absorbed by

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<v Speaker 2>the ground, and it filled up the aquifer.

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<v Speaker 1>Helped our aquifer.

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<v Speaker 2>Underneath southern California, which is a good thing. The water

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<v Speaker 2>was not wasted, it was not thrown away. It did

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<v Speaker 2>some good. Now that it do more harm than good. Probably,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see what happens this summer and how droughty the

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<v Speaker 2>drought is going to be, and if we hit very

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<v Speaker 2>drowdy droughts, if we're into droughdiosity in a major way.

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<v Speaker 2>That water well, it could have, would have should have

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<v Speaker 2>been used. We'll find out. Okay, there there it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see if I have the quote here. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a story out of the La Times. Where was it?

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<v Speaker 1>What he said?

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<v Speaker 2>Um? I had the quote, and there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go. Okay, I can't find it. Excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a show that is so well planned, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have such control of these topics. It's extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming out is well planned. Yeah, you're right. I take

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<v Speaker 1>that back.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I will rephrase that it is well planned. It

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<v Speaker 2>is not particularly well executed coming up foody front.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Does someone just say something? Yeah, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true.

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