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Speaker 1: We've got Jay darn House.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think that the modern nation state of

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Israel is necessarily identical to what the Old Testament theological

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significance of Israel is. The idea that the secular, atheist

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nation state is the fulfillment of some promise.

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Speaker 2: Is an evangelical mistake.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sorry that was a long ass answer to

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say that's a dumb evangelical mistake.

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Speaker 1: Before Israel was founded, established, Palestine was there and who

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lived there.

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Speaker 2: So it's actually a Christian place.

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Speaker 3: So I believe that Rabbinic Judaism is against Christianity. Yes,

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it is a synagogue of Satan in that its philosophy

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and its theology are essentially collated against Jesus being the Messiah.

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Speaker 1: Supposedly they found that Messiah. They need two red Hippers.

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Speaker 3: I started reading the Bible in the nineties, and I've

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been hearing since the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Like they're going to sacrifice the hippers. I'm not saying it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that there's not people that want to

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do it. I'm just I've been hearing it since I

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was a kid. I mean they want that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Muslims and Chris I think we have more in common. Dan,

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let's say Christians with Jews.

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Speaker 3: May I disagree on that, okay, but only because I

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would have agreed with you ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: And then I started debating Muslims and learning Islam.

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Speaker 3: A lot of academic treatments of the history of Islam,

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they'll talk about how indebted it is to the tumble Really, yes,

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so I believe Islam is actually very heavily tumbledive.

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Speaker 1: Hey Kim, what's going on with you today? Yeah, welcome

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to episode sixty six. We got Jaydon House.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks for making it out. Appreciate it.

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Thank you for having me. Man. I honored to be

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here with you guys.

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Speaker 3: Been watching you guys clips, very funny stuff, very funny stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, you've been a religious man. It did like

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a sin a religious mess. Yeah, watching us, Yeah, liking you,

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yeah both. It's they didn't want to tell you what

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I did on YouTube. Well, back in those days, I

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used to curse lots. Yeah, okay, codes, sometimes I slip up,

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I just bleep it. But anyway, so me and my

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brother we just recently, I would say, over the last month,

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we just started writting the King James version of the

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Bible and I text you something, Joe. It's a couple

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of images and it's about Israel. And I always thought

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it was kind of I don't know if sacriligious is

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the word for it, for like a government to name

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an area that Israel, because that's that's something God named

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in the Bible to a family, Jacob's family and his descendants. Uh,

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would you say that sacriligious or am my saying this

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is all wrong for a government to give a land.

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Speaker 3: So like the modern nation state of Israel, right compared

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to like what's going on in the Old Testament and

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all that. Yeah, I think that it's like the modern

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nation state was set up to be essentially an atheistic,

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quasi socialist, almost kind of a New World Order project.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was established under the British Empire and the British

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Empire's mandate, but the British Empire wasn't run by the

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Rothschiles more or less at that time.

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Speaker 2: So this is pretty much.

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Speaker 3: A raw Child project in tandem with the rest of

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what's called the Atlantis's power block, which is just Western

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civilization basically at that time. So I think they wanted

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a geostrategic location to be in the Middle East, just

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to be kind of a landing base for the West,

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and eventually, I think what happened is that it became

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very much a power block of its own. You know,

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we obviously we had a lot of subversion of our

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government through operatives, so you know, a big part of

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the Epstein Maxwell stuff was that kind of compromise. So

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is necessarily identical to what the Old Testament, the logical

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significance of Israel is.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the same loose people group.

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Speaker 3: There are still Jews, Like there's some people that think

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continue after you know, we're binding Judaism comes about in

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the fourth and fifth century.

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Speaker 2: They still speak of Jews as Jews.

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Speaker 3: But the idea that the secular atheist nation state is

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the fulfillment of some promise is an evangelical mistake. So

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I'm sorry that was a long ass answer to say

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that's a dumb evangelical.

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Speaker 2: Evangelicals, But this.

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Speaker 3: It comes out of dispensationalism, and like the Schofield Study Bible,

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which was funded by Oxford and promoted in America to

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get people on board with I believe the new nation

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state of Israel.

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Speaker 1: Okay, exactly, so good, bring it up. So I was

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reading this in the King James version and it said, well,

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the bottom of that that's highlighted. It said, you know

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that was fine, Joe, keep right there the land which

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the Lord your God giveth thee then YEA shall return

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onto the land of your possession and enjoy it which Moses,

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the Lord's servant, gave you on this side of Jordan,

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toward the sun rising. So it's like giving a location

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of Israel. Yeah, the land, right, So bring up the

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little map, I think you, Joe. So the sun comes

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up in the east, right, So based on that, there's Jordan,

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there's Jordan. Now Israel's in the west. So I would

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think if what what was mentioned in the King James

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version of the Bible, the area that that God promised his

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chosen people, looked like he would probably be in Iraq

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or Saudi Arabia or am I reading this and seeing

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Speaker 3: Well, by the time of when David takes Zion. Right, Eventually,

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when you get to the books of the Kings, you'll

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notice that David eventually takes Israel or orcuse me, takes Juri,

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so Jerusalem. And this is something you might have not

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noticed when you're reading Genesis. It mentions the story of Malchisedek. Right,

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Malkisedek was a gentile priest in the land of Salem. Right,

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this is way back in Abraham's day, right, So this

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before they try to conquer the land. And if you

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the city, the main city of Jerusalem, right to take

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it back. People think that this is some sort of

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like land theft. But it was originally a gentile, righteous

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people group that worship the true God that the Canaanites

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take that land back, right, But was originally a righteous,

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gentile nation because Malkizedek was a gentile. Paul will describe

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this in Hebrews seven. So I mean that might sound

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we think of Israel today, they are the same locations, right,

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the time of King David, he takes it makes it

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the city of David. But in his Psalms he refers

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to this city of Zion as identical to Salem. I

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think it's Psalm seventy six, identical to Salem, where Malkisedk

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Speaker 3: The only reason I say all that is that Paul

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Hebrew seven he says that the priesthood that Malkisa dec

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had is superior to the mosaic ironic, levitical priesthood. So

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anything that's mosaic law is inferior to this higher priesthood,

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which Hebrew seven says was about Jesus. So Jesus is

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the priesthood of Malchis Dek. We're an order of priest

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according to the order of Malchisedic Psalm one ten. That's

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about the Messiah. And then when the Messiah comes, he's

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after they ordered Malkisdic. So it's a superior and a

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fulfillment of both of them because Adikian priesthood and they'll

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vitical priesthood makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, somewhat a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just trying to give you the history to

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show that, like it is the city of Jerusalem, it

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is that area that eventually they take. And you'll notice too,

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eventually have taken the land. So because modern day people

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in the Lacud or not Yahoo's party, they'll try to

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say that there's still Amalekites around, So they spiritualize and

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say that anyone that disagrees with Israel is Amelek, but

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that the Amalekites are gone, Like there's no Amelikites today,

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I see what I'm saying. So they use that to

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say we're still fighting this battle. Yeah, exactly, but there's

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no Amelikites. Malikites are gone. They're just using these texts

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to say that we're still fighting the same battle from

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you know, Joshua's time.

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Speaker 1: So naming it at Israel, that's all a ruse. Do

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Speaker 3: Yes, and though so on one level, there are Jewish

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people that I think are genuinely Jewish people, but the

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religion is kind of mixed in with rabbinic philosophy, Kabbalism.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of all over the place. And I would say,

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ultimately and at the.

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Speaker 3: End of the day, many Jews just kind of do

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whatever the rabbi says, and so it's kind of amorphous

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and subjective because they don't believe in like going to

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another rabbi to get a higher opinion. It's just sort

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of like, if this rabbi right here that I have

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tells me to do this, then that's what I do.

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Even if he's wrong, you just do it. So I'm serious.

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Speaker 2: Go to check it and like find out like it's relativized.

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Speaker 1: Oh really it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I would say that's kind of a disqualifier

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that it's like identical to the Old Testament Hebrew religion.

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Jesus says three John five to nine. When he's debating

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the protos helmutic philosophers. Jesus says, Abraham believed in me.

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Abraham rejoiced to see my day. So Abraham had faith

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in Jesus the Messiah. That's his argument, right, And they're saying,

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how are You're not even fifty years old? How are

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you around when Abraham was alive that was thousands of

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years ago. And Jesus is saying that, no, I am God,

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I'm the one that created Abraham. I'm the one that

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gave Israel this name. Right, So Israel's also personified in

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the person of Christ. Right, there's a prophecy at the

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beginning of Luke.

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Speaker 2: It says out of Israel, I called my son.

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Speaker 3: Right in Isaiah fifty three to fifty four of those

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famous suffering Servant chapters, predicting Jesus, he's called Israel the

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suffering servant. So Israel, yes, it's the name of right.

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I've called you Israel when he's wrestling with him, Jesus

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that he was the one wrestling with Jacob, so he's

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the latter of God. So he's the one that named

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Jacob Israel. So Jacob becomes a symbol for the whole

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nation state. But if you fast forward to now after

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the coming of the Messiah, Israel isn't a nation state

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because in Matthew twenty one, Jesus gives a parable where

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he says they were divorced as a collective nation state.

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So what we have today does involve Jewish people, but

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it's a nation state created for a socialist geopolitical ideology

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that was formulated by people like Moses Hess Have you

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heard of him No, So he's like a it was

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a forefather of socialism and Marxism. He's right around the

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time of Marx and he wrote a book about the

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in the eighteen sixties and he said that we've got

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Rothschilds on our side, and we're going to create this

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nation day in Palestine.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna call it Israel. Right, So Palestine did exist,

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Speaker 1: So why republics don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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land until their Messiah comes. So even the Jews don't

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have really a consistent position on this. Does that make sense, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that whole intral thing, they have a hitt and

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agenda alter motives a lot of people's religious really, but

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early people involved in Zionism had some belief in God,

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but not anything to do with the way that the

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Old Testament describes Hebrew religion. And when you get to

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the third, fourth, fifth centuries of the history of the Church,

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that's when you really get this split between Judaism at

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that time, Second Temple Judaism from the days of Christ

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what's called rabbinic or Tumwuodick Judaism.

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and they say, this is now what Judaism is because

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they had to figure out a way to have the

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religion without the temple, because the temple's destroyed in seventy

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a d okay I believe Jesus predicting that in Luke

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twenty one, in Matthew twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So the temple's gone.

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Speaker 3: Jews are in the diaspora again, and so they come

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up with a philosophy and ideology that allows them to

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kind of make up for not having the temple. So, well,

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you go to your synagogue, right, how do you do

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good works and sacrifice? Well, you give money. So it's

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like you make up for not having a temple and

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all that with this new Rabbinic Judaism.

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Speaker 2: And that's where we are today.

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Speaker 3: That Rabbinic Judaism is not identical to Old Testament Judaism.

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prophet Jeremiah, you're going to notice that he talks about

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the lying pen of the scribe, and Jesus mirrors that

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when he preaches against the Pharisees. In Matthew twenty two,

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twenty three, twenty four, and he talks about the scribes

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and the Pharisees sitting the sea to Moses or hypocrites.

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Speaker 2: All of the.

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Speaker 3: Prophecies of the Prophets will come upon this generation in vengeance.

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This is the vengeance of the Prophets is coming upon

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this generation because they Chris fid Imsia. So you get

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the divorce of Israel as a nation state in Matthew

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twenty one, I think forty three. So we're living in

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the Christian era, but they don't accept that. So they

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had to kind of come up with a rabbinic means

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of having the religion without the temple in the land.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people labeled Israel I don't you know,

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people have laid me is anti Semitic. I was like, man,

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I love Jews, I love everybody, but a lot of

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people label the current state of Israel is the Synagogue

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of Satan. Is there any truth to that?

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Speaker 3: I think in the New Testament, when Paul is talking

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about because I mean, Jesus says that in Revelation Rights,

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it's Revelation two and three where Jesus is rebuking the

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churches and he says, I will make those who claim

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to be Jews that are not Jews about them before

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you someone in the Resurrection. And then Paul says in

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Thessalonians that the Jews are contrary to all people because

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they rejected the Messiah. So I believe that rabbinic Judaism

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is against Christianity. Yes, and it's it is a synagogue

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of Satan in that it's philosophy and its theology are

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essentially corelated against Jesus being the Messiah. Like it's not

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a genetic thing, right, Sin isn't genetic? Sin is a

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choice that we make and everybody's sense.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Like is it anywhere in the Bible with

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God's chosen people of family? Visual do they get immunity

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from the tank commandments?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: Of course, That's why rabbinic philosophy comes about, is to

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come up with excuses in Kazustrie. I mean you've probably

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seen like the way that Hasidic communities come up with creative,

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shall we say, ways to get around the Sabbath.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about, Okay, So like if

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you can look it up, but there's not me making

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it up. There's a couple examples. Is like, because you

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can't do any work on the Sabbath, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, you'll be stoned to death. I just read that.

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Speaker 3: So the way that they get around that is, you

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can't flip a light switch, right, So you move a

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switch that doesn't cause the electrical current to actually be

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cut off.

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Speaker 2: You just remove a switch and then randomly you let

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the current be turned off and so you're not working. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Another example is you can't you can't walk outside on

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the Sabbath, okay in Rabbinic Judaism and his strict Hasidic

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Rabbinic Judaism. Well, what if we took a string and

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we looped it all around this parking lot to make

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it an enclosure, right, and then we're not outside anymore

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because it's enclosed.

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Speaker 2: And to be I'm serious, these are it sounds like

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a joke, but it sounds like the Covid thing outside

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Covid mentology mentality. Yeah. Uh So that's what Jesus was rebuking,

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and that's what the religion became.

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Speaker 3: A means of getting around the actual spirit of the

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laws versus the letter of the law.

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Speaker 2: And that's what Paul will talk about.

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Speaker 3: When you get to Galatians, particularly Galatians three and four,

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Paul will make the very point you just made.

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Speaker 4: M hm.

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to go back to Palestine. So

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before Israel was founded established, Palestine was there and who

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lived there? Everyone?

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Speaker 2: Everybody christ Christian? Yeah, so right, Muslims, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: They were all there in Palestine together.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: In fact, I just recently read a book by a

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bunch of it's a French historian and intelligence analysts doing

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a retro analysis of all the British spies that the

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British Empire sent out to spy out and to do

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reconstants on old Middle East because at the time of

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the British Empire, like late late nineteen hundred, eighteen nineties,

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nineteen hundred nineteen ten, a lot of the Middle East

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hadn't been charted yet, right, So they sent out very

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famous spies, even some of them were even women, which

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is weird, like Gertrude Bell to Lawrence, Saint John Philby.

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Speaker 2: They sent them out to spy because oil had just

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been discovered.

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Speaker 3: British Empire wanted oil and so they're called black Gold spies,

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and so they went and basically just charted the whole land,

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all of it. Got an assessment of things that people

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didn't even have existed. Like there were churches, old remnants

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of churches in Jordan that had been destroyed because it

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became Muslim, but they were just the old cathedrals the

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people didn't even know existed. So there's even evidence of

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communities of Christians in Jordan that people didn't know about

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until these spies got there, is what I'm trying to

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get at. So it's a very complicated, nuanced history of

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the Middle East. I'm not a Middle East historian, but

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I've read a lot on it, so I would say, yes,

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you have a lot of people living there, you have

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a government that's very amenable to all the people groups.

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what happens is the British Empire decides that in order

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to I believe, create a powder keg. I think they

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wanted this dialectical tension powder keg set up there for

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a purpose for a reason, originally to find oil, but

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there wasn't really oil in Israel, but there's oil around.

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So they had this nation state established Balfour Declaration that

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was all bragged about by the Rothchilds that they got

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that through it was all part of the partly their work.

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Moses has book confirms that as well, from decades earlier.

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So then it became more and more I would argue

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anti Christian and anti Muslim because I think they want

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people in Israel now want the Temple rebuilt.

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Speaker 2: It's called the Temple Institute. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So you've got a sizeable portion, a lot of

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the re Lacud Party, a lot of the sort of

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the far right of what Israel calls far right. They

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want to rebuild the Temple. That means they're going to

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have to get rid of the mosque, they're going to

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have to do a lot of.

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Speaker 1: And they got to bring in two Red hippers, perfect right.

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Speaker 3: All of that would be involved in the new temple exactly.

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So there's a sizeable portion that wants to do that.

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And then you know in America you've got people.

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Speaker 2: Like John John Hagy the Blood Moons of Israel.

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Speaker 3: You know John Haguen is, yeah, like the biggest dispensation list, right,

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like Kofi, Right, He's part of this group called Kofi

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which tries to collect money from millions of dollars from

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Americans like the adult sons and all these people, and

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then they send it to try to rebuild the Temple.

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Speaker 2: To the Temple Institute.

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Speaker 3: So you've got a sizable portion of dispensation US and

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American evangelicals who support this idea. And I think to

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your point, yes, it probably was a lot safer and

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more amenable to Pilgrims and Christians right before the British

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Empire put actual Jewish terrorists there, so that you're.

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Speaker 2: Gone the Stern gang.

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Speaker 3: This is where the modern nation state of Israel's actual

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military militia comes from. It comes from these organized crime

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gangs that are the They bombed the King David Hotel

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to try to get rid of the British colonial oversight.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Yeah, y'all heard that.

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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I came across on a YouTube. It was supposedly they

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found that Messiah. They need two Red Hippers and they

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got to like bomb that that moss there and remove it.

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And I didn't know how. I was like, this sounds

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crazy to me. I mean, I think that they was

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going to clone the two Red Eppers or something.

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Speaker 2: There's always been this push.

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Speaker 3: I mean even I started reading the Bible in the

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I've been hearing since the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Like they're gonna sacrifice the Happers.

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Speaker 3: And they're just gonna be I'm not saying it. I'm

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not saying that there's not people that want to do it.

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I'm just saying I've been hearing it since I was

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a kid, right, And I don't know how legit those

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articles were back then, but I mean they want that. Yeah, yeah,

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like there's a sizeable group that wants that.

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Speaker 2: But to you know, if you're a historic Christian, like

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there's no Zionism in the history of Christianity.

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Speaker 3: It's a modern atheist political movement. There's nothing really to

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do with what's in the Bible. But to your point,

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they use the terms of the Bible to kind of

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make it seem like to do people to dupe American evangelicals,

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and that's John Hagy's job is to get people.

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Speaker 2: On board with it.

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Speaker 1: I think Fox News is complicit.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I just don't understand. Like I brought

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Victor Ostrowski's book with me, which I've been reading.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of him?

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Speaker 3: He's like the famous massad guy that first came out

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with a book talking about what they're up to. No

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Speaker 2: They interviewed him on c SPAN.

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Speaker 3: I think around the time, like around nineteen ninety, because

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he put out a second book called Strategy by Deception,

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and he says in the clip, like we just use

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it as a trick and everyone knows it to call

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people anthey semites. He says, anytime somebody starts telling the truth,

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he says this, he's a proud u.

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Speaker 2: Like he says, we just use the label to discredit them. Right,

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Speaker 3: Deception, which talks about a lot of this stuff, and

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he was with Massade, former Massade who quit because he

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said he just couldn't go along with it anymore as

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part of it. And well, warfare by deception, right, but

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he wrote this in nineteen ninety, I should say. And

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then in his second book he admits that Israel force

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Rategia purposes helped fund arm and create Hamas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, multiple times.

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Speaker 3: And so I was supposed to debate a guy on

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this and he backed out of it. But like, I

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Speaker 1: And would you have a debate Ben Shapiro or yeah,

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I asked.

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Speaker 2: Him to debate multiple times.

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Speaker 3: I think he just wants to talk fast and going

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to bake taxnologic bad morning talent Taxologic. I mean that's

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how it would go down, right, wait a minute, and

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he would just like It's like it's like the same

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as that chicko was debating on whatever like two nights ago.

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Speaker 1: He's a very intelligent man.

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Speaker 2: He knows all he is is intelligent. Yeah, he knows

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the debate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he would do it though he

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tried to debate or can have tried to debate him,

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and yeah, he backed out of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's not going to debate a black woman,

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he definitely debating a white man.

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Speaker 2: If I identify as a black man.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's blown up enough now.

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Speaker 3: In his second Strotsky second book, he says that the

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reason they did that was because a strategy of destabilization

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through an Islamic radical group was more effective than Arafat

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and the PLO, because that was a stabilizing force and

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they'd rather have something not stable.

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Speaker 2: Than something stable in terms of their enemies.

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Speaker 1: I've heard stories that Nahu and Israel's behind nine to

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eleven to create the animasca between evangelicals here in America

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and Muslims.

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Speaker 2: There's definitely a key role.

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Speaker 3: I think that that far what's called far right party

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played against the Lakud and those people.

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Speaker 2: Because most of the people that.

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Speaker 3: Wrote the PENAC document that talks about American needing a

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Pearl Harbor style event prior to the not alive an

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event happening, many of them were neo cons many of

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them were like big Israeli operative type people. So there's

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definitely an Israeli role. I don't know if Israel did it,

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Like it's not like one nation state did it. I

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think you had to have high level cooperation between moles

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and people within the agencies to get that done. But

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I do think that it definitely played a very advantageous

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role to Israel. But I also think that British intelligence benefited.

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I think the CIA benefited, and I think Western intelligence

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in general will coop cooperate on these types of things

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at a high level.

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Speaker 1: Y'all, Like that last ram we gave away, Yeah, so

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we got us another one. Check this ram out twenty

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five hundred heavy duty terrible de ram R A M

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A RAM. It's got all kinds of ram action. Yeah,

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I love this ram. You can rid of ram some

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with this what colors this graphite? That is white supremacist

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graph fight right there. You got a good handle on it.

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See that handle built like a tape.

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Speaker 2: But it drives like a race. Call.

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Speaker 1: Go to Fisherhawkswings dot com. Anything you popping site, get

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you automatically, no purchase necessary. Like I look at like, uh,

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Muslims and Christians. I think we have more in common

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than let's say, Christians with Jews, Judaism, Judaism.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not trying to be Maybe I disagree on that, okay,

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but only because I would have agreed with you ten

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years ago, and then I started debating Muslims and learning Islam.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm ignorant when it comes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just think that they're both in the

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same level of disagreement. And if you look into a

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lot of academic treatments of the history of Islam, they'll

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talk about how indebted it is to the tumult. Yes,

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so I believe Islam is actually very heavily tumbled In fact,

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there's a lot of things in Islam that don't make

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sense really other than it's just what God tells you

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to do. Like they have a lot of the dietary

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restrictions that come out of the Judaic tradition and the

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Rabbinical traditions.

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Speaker 2: For no reason.

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Speaker 3: So when you ask Muslims like, you know, well, why

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do you have to do the woodoo washings and why

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do you abstain from pork and all this stuff, It's like, well,

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because all that says too. And then when you look

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into the sections of the Koran that have these dietary restrictions,

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it's sort of like copying and pasted out of the

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Old Testament, out of Leviticus. But there's no real reason

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for it. It is it's a copy paste plagiarism religion.

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And then when if you look at Christianity, there's a

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reason why at that time God gave those dietary laws.

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Speaker 1: He said it was unclean or something like that.

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Speaker 2: It had a pedagogical significance.

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Speaker 3: Right, So when you get to the New Testament, you

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guys are reading the Bible through when you get to

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Paul's letters, and Jesus does this too, Like they will

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explain the purpose of the dietary laws and the ceremonial

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laws as they're called. They were intended to typify the

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coming Messiah. So they're types, signs and symbols. Like Jesus

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is the Passover, So when the Jews are reading the Passover,

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that was a symbolic lesson, teaching them that the coming

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MESSI will be the passover land that they feast on.

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So it's a type. Do you know what I mean

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by time? Like a foreshadowing and then a fulfillment. The

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temple is a foreshadowing of fulfillment. Jesus says that the

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temple was a symbol of his own body in John two,

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tear down this temple and I'll raise in three days.

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The temple is also a symbol of the Church, the

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body of the believers that are a living temple. Peter says,

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so likewise with the ceremonial laws, when you have these

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restrictions about not eating an unclean animal versus a quote

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clean animal, when you get to the New Testam, when

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you read the Book of Acts, Paul will say that

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now that the Covenant is fulfilled in Christ's death, all

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animals are clean. That pedagogical a teaching lesson is fulfilled.

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Speaker 2: It's done. It doesn't matter anymore. The foods don't matter,

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he says.

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Speaker 3: What matters is the spiritual principle behind the unclean and

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clean foods is evil actions versus good actions. Okay, So

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it's a symbol that symbolize moral good and evil.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, and it's fulfilled.

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Speaker 3: And so religions like Islam and Rabbinic Judaism are trying

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to keep things that don't have a purpose without that

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key figure of the Messiah who fulfills the purpose of

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those things.

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Speaker 1: Because those things they said, like you said, is plagiarize.

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They taking things out of context. It doesn't make sense

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in their Bible because that religion is only what about

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six hundred years old.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's in the six hundreds of Mohammed's you know,

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pops up and starts saying that he's getting, you know,

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prophetic messages.

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Speaker 2: He also thought he was possessed too, by the way,

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there's a high deeth where he's switched. You don't know.

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Speaker 3: Hadith are like the world traditions, and Muslims believe that

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you have to believe Hattiaths like the strong Haadieths. They're

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just as necessary as the Quran. So it's not just

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the Kuran. A lot of times Muslims so oh, you

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just have to believe the Koran. You also have to

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believe all the hot deaths, which is vast books of traditions.

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And there's one of them says that Muhammad was worried

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because he would fall over and he would start foaming

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at the mouth, right, and he was like, I feel

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like I might be possessed, and all of his like

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warlord Arab followers are like.

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Speaker 2: No, you're good, dude, you're good. It's a prophecy. It's

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a prophecy.

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Speaker 1: Who is Muhammad.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of debate about it, but it

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just seems like he's a crazy Arab warlord.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what I said, I need to clean up what

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I said earlier. Christ is and most have more in common.

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What I meant by that is that against gay.

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Speaker 3: I mean people, Yeah, if you reduce the if you

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reduce the religion.

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Speaker 2: To just that, I guess.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, because I see like Muslims here, like in Detroit,

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like there's a big Muslim population up there and just

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trying to put all those gay books and stuff in

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front of kids, and they were there. They were totally

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against that. And then I hear like Tel Aviv it's

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like one of the biggest gayest populations in the world.

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It's comparable to San Francisco. So that's what I meant

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by we have more in common, but it's it goes a.

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Speaker 2: Lot deeper than that.

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Speaker 3: Well, but keep in mind too, like I mean Islam,

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you have child brides. You have you know, you should

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be in nine, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, so it's like, that's not that's not president the Bible.

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Speaker 2: No, there's no child brides. I mean they tried.

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Speaker 3: Musclims try to point to like Deuteronomy, but there's nothing

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about taking children's virginity.

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy, right.

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Speaker 1: Because they said, I can't across a lot of people's comments.

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He said, then y'all worship a guy named Mohammad. He

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is a pedophile.

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Speaker 3: If you a lot of the top Muslim apologists, they'll

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put out videos and say stuff like, oh, well, in

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in Genesis, Rebecca was nine when you know she was wedded,

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and it's not true.

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Speaker 2: That's from a rabbinic, it's from the Talmut. I'm serious.

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Speaker 3: So they actually don't know the difference between what's in

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the Talman and what's in Genesis, So is.

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Speaker 1: There any mention, like I see the team comment, is

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there any mention when woman is of legal age to

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have sex with a man? Is there anywhere in any

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scripture anywhere?

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Speaker 3: I think in the history of Christianity and in the

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history of Christian nations usually they've set the age in

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past times it was a lot lower. It would be

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post puberty, right, So conceivably it could be you know, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

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and most nations operated that way for a long time,

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for a long time. But I don't think there's any

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instances that I'm aware of of, like child brides in

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Christian history.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard.

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Speaker 1: That's like a new concept that we eighteen normal society,

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you have to be of a certain age.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Part of the reason I think for that is that

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the ethos of Islam is one born out of slavery.

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It's an Arab warlord slave religion. And I'm not being facetious,

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Like the way that you're viewed under Allah is you're

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all a slave. So like in Christianity, one of the

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key elements is that you're a son of God. And

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Paul says in Galatians, for you're not like a slave,

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you're a son. So in other words, you have the

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full rights of inheritance, which a person that's owned as us,

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they wouldn't have the full rights of inheritance.

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Speaker 2: But in Islam it's not you that way. Allah is

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not a father. Allah has no sons, which.

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Speaker 3: Is an easy way, by the way, to prove that

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Jesus is not a Muslim, right because Jesus says that

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God's father probably five hundred times in the Book of

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John alone, right, so I bet Muslims will be like, no,

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you know was a Muslim. It's like, well, then why

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did he say that Allah or God's Father? And then

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they'll say text corrupt, text corrupt, So all five hundred

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references are all corrupt. Yeah, it's all corrupt. So they

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have a double standard. Right when you point out the contradictions,

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they'll immediately say, well, the text is corrupted. And it's like,

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but wait a minute, what about the text that you like, Oh,

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those are not corrupted.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's a double standard.

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Speaker 1: So Judaism is they take principles out of the Bible,

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but they got goal rounds and then you got the

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Muslim faith where they just took things out of context,

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plagiarism and things doesn't It just doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 3: And I think another key element is like in jua

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in Rabbinic Judaism, a lot of people don't know this,

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Like the Bible texts they're inferior to the rabbinic commentary,

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so they don't really care about what the Biblical texts say.

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They're only as relevant as they are explained, interpreted and

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misinterpreted in the tumb Witic literature. So, for example, when

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some of the texts pop up that are a problem

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texts for Rabbinic Jews about the Messiah, oh, there's two Massias.

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There's Messiah and Joseph and massiab and David. And then

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they'll make fun of Christians because they think because there's

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like there's no evidence of the Messiah having two comings,

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but you believe in two Massias. Oh yeah, So they

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have a silly way to get around a lot of

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the textual.

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Speaker 1: Problems, like circular reasoning though.

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Speaker 2: Right it is, and it's admitting like open contradictions at times.

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Speaker 1: Right, So like you've made the comparison that like Muslims

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are like they're like a slave, and is that why

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that women dress the way they dressed, they all covered

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and they're like servants to the men.

705
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: Right, it's a very much.

706
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,079
Speaker 3: I mean in the history I think of, I'm not

707
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:16,039
a history of slavery, but what I have a friend

708
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,000
that made a documentary on this, and he went pretty

709
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:21,000
deep into the history of the Christian versus Islamic views

710
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:25,880
of slavery. The ISLAMI view is very much openly pro slavery.

711
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:29,440
And it's really only Christianity that originally tried to mitigate

712
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,159
slavery in the Roman Empire and then over time eventually

713
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:35,840
tries to get rid of it because if everybody's made

714
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,719
damage of God just doesn't really make sense that you

715
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,639
own a person.

716
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: Right in Africa, is there's still Muslims that own African

717
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:45,119
cert I'm still going on today.

718
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: And I think in Arab places too, like there's still

719
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:52,960
Arab slaves as well, like they own slaves. What I'm saying, Yeah,

720
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000
it still goes on. I don't know exactly how wide

721
00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:57,880
spread it is, but as far as I'm aware, it's

722
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allowed in Islam. Mm hmm. Wow.

723
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Speaker 1: I put my foot in my muff earlier.

724
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you're right in the sense of like

725
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,800
the stuff. Yeah, like that one.

726
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's like in the toaw mood, they

727
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,400
believe in all this Jenda ideology stuff.

728
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: Right, there are elements.

729
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: There's weird stuff in the Talumu. There's also weird stuff

730
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,920
in Kabbala. I don't know if you know about Kabala.

731
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,840
Do you look like big Madonna fans?

732
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: You know?

733
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: We watched.

734
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: We went back and watched some old Madonna videos from

735
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,639
like two thousand and three, and because we dissect a

736
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:40,559
lot of symbolism and movies and pop culture, and we

737
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:44,400
were watching her song for the James Bond movie Die

738
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,480
Another Day, and it's really weird.

739
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:49,199
Speaker 2: Like in the video, she's.

740
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:51,159
Speaker 3: Sitting in this chair and she's like strapped down and

741
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,440
she's being put through mind control like prosta.

742
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:55,039
Speaker 2: That's really weird. Like that's in the video right.

743
00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:59,679
Speaker 3: Well, she starts rapping the uh like Jewish prayer, you know,

744
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,719
wrap around her arm, and she gets up and there's.

745
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: Like Hebrew script, like cabalistic Hebrew script.

746
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,079
Speaker 3: So yeah, so even like in two thousand and three,

747
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:11,480
she was already like experiment there with cabalistic stuff. But

748
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,639
I don't think she came out as a cobbylist until mid.

749
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:16,039
Speaker 2: Two thousands late two thousands.

750
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she well she was the one in the

751
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:26,000
two thousands pushing the La Kabbala Center with Demi Moore

752
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:28,840
got into it, and then Ashton Kutcher got into it,

753
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,440
and probably some other celebrities I don't remember anyway, but

754
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,039
they were intentionally pushing Kabbala, which is Jewish mysticism. Long

755
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:39,880
story short, Jewish mysticism, particularly which I would assume there's

756
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,719
places in the tulment as well. The cabalistic texts say that, yeah,

757
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,960
like the original creation Adam he had both things going on.

758
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:55,360
What Yeah, Adam Cadman was both genders trans gender, trans

759
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,360
and hermaphrodite and I hit it all going on.

760
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:03,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Adam was a trance the first.

761
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,159
Speaker 2: Of sex.

762
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Speaker 1: Why doesn't it mention that in the in Christian.

763
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: Because the well, the the Genesis tour and never say that.

764
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:21,960
But you have these Cabbalistic legends and mystical speculations that

765
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,519
take precedence over what's in the text exactly.

766
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: And these are Jewish people. I believe this right.

767
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 3: The medieval Kabbalistic texts argue that the highest state is

768
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,639
to be either non binary or have them both, because

769
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,239
I mean, if you don't have a vagina.

770
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Speaker 2: You're lacking. You only know one half of the picture.

771
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,639
Speaker 1: It's funny Ben Shapiro, he does reactions to these dumb,

772
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:55,639
woke tiktoks, and it's all these trained transgenders and non

773
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,760
gender conforming people and he mocks them.

774
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Speaker 2: It'd be funny to ask him about the talmud, right, Yeah,

775
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:05,519
you know what he's going to say. We don't have

776
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:08,039
to believe that an option. It's optional.

777
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 3: It says optional because in that system it's a dual

778
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:19,079
ethical system. Also relative, it's relative. And also like if

779
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,679
they're arguing to somebody outside of the systems, most of

780
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,119
the believe this too. By the way, they can be deceptive.

781
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:26,920
They don't have to give you the true position.

782
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: Like a cop interrogating.

783
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Speaker 3: A good way to put it, what mm hmm, there's yeah,

784
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:44,599
there's there's situations where you can do that. The Quran

785
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:46,840
also says there's a text early on in the Crown

786
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,880
where it says something to the effect of smile on

787
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,920
the outside when you're in the minority, and then go

788
00:40:54,079 --> 00:41:00,239
to war when you're in the middle majority exactly. So no,

789
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,119
they're not bound to tell you the truth.

790
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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

791
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, in Christianity, though, you have this assumption that like

792
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:08,960
if we were to go into a debate, right, like

793
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the like I'm going to tell you my position. Yeah,

794
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,559
you're going to be honest, but there's an in group

795
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,360
preference and an out group like not preference.

796
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: Right. So yeah, so like in a Bible says you

797
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,519
shouldn't be a false witness, a bar of false witness.

798
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,519
Jews and Muslims don't believe in any of that.

799
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Speaker 3: Well they can lie, they'll say, and then they'll they'll

800
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,000
do the Talmudic move yeah, where they'll be like, yeah,

801
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,400
well I don't yeah, but uh, you know, Jesus says,

802
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,679
like your aba and your navy na, right, but yeah,

803
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:45,280
those are they're just completely different. There are ethical systems

804
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,119
based on a form of tribalism. And even though Islam

805
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:54,559
claims to be for everybody, just like Judaism, it's actually

806
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,719
very ethnic and very tribal because there's a specific section

807
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,840
in the Quran early on where it's pretty funny too.

808
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:04,519
I'm not a huge fan of David Would, but he

809
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,519
actually hit me to this. He made a good point

810
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,000
one of his videos about this. He pointed out that

811
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:11,199
if you look early on in the Kuran all actually

812
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,719
says at one point the Jews have the Torah and

813
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,400
their talmut or whatever, Christians have their Gospels.

814
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: The Quran is that for the Arabs. That's early on

815
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,440
in the Quran, right, Okay.

816
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: When he tried to push this and it wasn't very successful,

817
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,159
then it becomes all right, let's just go to war.

818
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: It's for everybody.

819
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: And they don't have a problem with Allah, like I'll

820
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:39,119
look and like just change stuff like yeah, because in

821
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:42,719
their view Allah also is the greatest of deceivers.

822
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: In the Quran.

823
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: If you if you're the best at everything, you gotta

824
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,079
be the best at deceiving, right, because if he wasn't,

825
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:50,519
he wouldn't be the best.

826
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Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, Like that's how that's how it was

827
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:54,440
on with theology.

828
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Speaker 1: Argues it's all relative to that situation.

829
00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:00,599
Speaker 2: That's that's that crazy. Yeah.

830
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they always say Israel is one of our

831
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,280
biggest allies. I mean, is it any truth to that?

832
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,119
Speaker 2: Nope?

833
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 3: I mean I think if if a nation was an ally,

834
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:19,199
it would not like hold us hostage with like massive

835
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:19,880
levels of.

836
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 2: Compromise, you know what I mean.

837
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: Right, So, like Whitney Webb's book, which is great, it's

838
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,679
the same publisher as my book trying to write she did.

839
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,800
The Volume two was on Epstein and and Maxwell, and

840
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,599
I mentioned like some of this stuff early on in

841
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:38,800
my first book, with like Hollywood cults and sex colts

842
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,239
and how that ties into like compromising people, getting him

843
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,119
into you know, get him to the party R Kelly's

844
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:45,519
after party, that kind of stuff.

845
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,679
Speaker 1: Right, let's get into that.

846
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: But I mean, I don't I don't think that if

847
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,920
they were an ally they would act that way, and

848
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,960
they wouldn't be so intent on so many operatives and

849
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:01,519
so many people. They're trying to ensure that there's not

850
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,679
even criticism, you know what I mean.

851
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: When I say Epstein was a Massaud agent, Well that's

852
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:06,880
what I heard.

853
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:09,599
Speaker 3: Well, the first and second chapter of her book go

854
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,000
into the significant evidence that she was. That he was

855
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,960
working for that entity as well as FBI n CI,

856
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:17,480
so he was actually probably working for a lot of

857
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:19,440
people all I once.

858
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,559
Speaker 1: Including the United States.

859
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

860
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question real quick about Muslims.

861
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:26,320
Why do they worship that big tube.

862
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,039
Speaker 3: They have an idea that this is some way, in

863
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:35,639
some way connected to Abraham. Abraham didn't go to Mecca

864
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,440
you didn't go to Saudi Arabia. It's a weird tradition

865
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:41,079
that I think is part of their hadiths, and so

866
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,239
their their tradition.

867
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:46,639
Speaker 2: And what I really think is going on is that it's.

868
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: It's like a it's an ancient so Mecca used to

869
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,480
be like a giant idol place. It's where all the

870
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:58,320
Arabs would come to worship all the Arab gods when

871
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,199
they were pagans. Right, I believe it's it's a holdover

872
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,239
because they reverence it of the paganism I'm saying, So

873
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,559
they reverence it, which doesn't really make sense with Islam's

874
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:17,039
iconoclasm that you can't have images, you can't reverence created things.

875
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: That looks like out of transformist.

876
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:25,159
Speaker 2: What's that cube that's the magic Yeah, it's the cue

877
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:26,719
mout up.

878
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: The cube is here, Muslim's mount up. So the faith

879
00:45:33,559 --> 00:45:39,480
of Islam and Judaism is like I mean, maybe I'm

880
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:43,239
jumped to conclusion it's diametrically opposed to Christianity.

881
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,639
Speaker 3: Yes, in my view, again, like having looked at both

882
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:52,559
of them fairly extensively, they're both antithetical to Christianity because

883
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:55,320
they're both number one against the idea that Jesus is

884
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,480
the Son of God. That's just fundamentally what Christianity is.

885
00:45:58,519 --> 00:46:01,159
If you read First John, Second John, third John, he

886
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,400
emphasizes that anyone that denies that the Son of God

887
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,400
came in the flesh is Antichrist, and all three of

888
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,920
those two religions are premised on denying that.

889
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:21,199
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Woodwiki, Hey, what do you think about the Vatican

890
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,920
and a new vote.

891
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a huge critic of from Catholicism and the papacy.

892
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:31,679
Orthodox Christianity believes that there should be bishops, not Bishop

893
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,920
td Jakes and not bishop, not Bishop Tilda Swinton or whatever.

894
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:39,079
By the way, I don't think he got the joke

895
00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:41,760
that I was calling him Tilda Swinton just to be silly,

896
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,320
and I kept calling him that and then I don't

897
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,280
think he ever got the jokes.

898
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,039
Speaker 2: But the producers got women.

899
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,679
Speaker 6: Priests and preachers across the board throughout Christianity. I think

900
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,320
even in my denomination, where we do not ordain women,

901
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,639
we are behind the times when it comes to recognizing

902
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:02,079
the full humanity of the talents and the gifts of women,

903
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,719
uh and what their contributions can can be to ad ministry.

904
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: James not very convinced.

905
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: No, I think Bishop till the Swinton is way off

906
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,840
there because women were never ordained in the history of

907
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,719
the church, to the priest or, to the bishopric. It's

908
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,719
always been forbidden. And again it's just liberation theology that

909
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,000
he's pushing. And then he says he's not personally pushing

910
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:25,960
liberation theology, but actually.

911
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: It is liberation theology. He's already contradicted himself. That is

912
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:31,559
what you said. Literally, everything you laid out was liberation.

913
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 6: Describe as liberation theology was not liberation theology.

914
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: I know.

915
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 3: I said your definition, your opening statement, your opening statement liberation.

916
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: He literally believer your opening statement.

917
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,039
Speaker 6: And I didn't abscribe to liberation theology. I said your

918
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,199
outline Inclusivitylusivity is not liberation.

919
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: Out of interest, why should they not be women priests?

920
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's not what Christ laid down.

921
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: Christ first, Timothy too says women should not teach them

922
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,559
how the priesthood and to only have women being in

923
00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:13,280
a certain role.

924
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,079
Speaker 2: It's not that women can't be involved in the church.

925
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,079
And you notice his fallacy there.

926
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:19,559
Speaker 7: He said that it means that he said women are

927
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:23,280
not fully human and uh, if you don't believe in them,

928
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,400
being in the priesthood has nothing to do with their humanity.

929
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,599
It has to do with roles, and women are not

930
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:30,440
for every role. They're not made to be in men's sports,

931
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,039
for example.

932
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:33,639
Speaker 3: Right, it's the same logic that this guy has in

933
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,960
terms of his liberations at swan.

934
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:39,559
Speaker 2: My name is not this guy. You've been dealing with

935
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:42,239
me in a very disrespectful untill.

936
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: If I go, who's that guy shaking his head with

937
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:51,559
the the guy to your U.

938
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: The gay Anglican dude?

939
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, who is He kept shaking his sad whenever

940
00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:56,280
you talked.

941
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Speaker 2: Just some gay Anglican he wants he wants women to

942
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be in his church, to run and everything.

943
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Speaker 1: So yeah, but it's a specifically it's explicitly sitting in Bible.

944
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,239
They don't role as a women. They don't care for them.

945
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Speaker 3: I think religion is subservient to political agendas, you know

946
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,920
what I mean. Like it's just a tool of like

947
00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:21,320
that's what liberation theology is social gospel. That just makes

948
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,559
Christianity in the church like a version of soft power.

949
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's relative to your situation. Just let me

950
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,280
however you want. Right, doesn't make sense like most of

951
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,880
the people that the priesthood and people that followed the Lord.

952
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,760
It's like most of the stuff they put out to everybody,

953
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,760
it's just it's not even a Bible contradictions. Look at

954
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,679
the Secret Service trumpet. There was a woman leading Secret service.

955
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,880
Look at women secret service agens. Who wants that as

956
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:52,239
a man.

957
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 3: Well, the only reason they failed is because men oppressed them.

958
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:58,039
You see, they would have been successful had the men

959
00:49:58,159 --> 00:49:59,679
not been oppressing them the whole time.

960
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,199
Speaker 1: Serving in church leadership, we're girls and we're priests. Of course,

961
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,559
we're going to talk about the deeply mystical yet profoundly human.

962
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,519
Speaker 2: Power of Christ coming into this world through the body

963
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,760
of a consenting woman, our lily Mother Mary. Of course,

964
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,519
we're going to keep doing our job even though there

965
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:19,760
are trolls in our comments.

966
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: We're girls and we're priests. Of course we're going to

967
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,360
match our earrings.

968
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:29,039
Speaker 2: And she's that she she just sent it for the pot. Look. Yeah,

969
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:32,480
and I'm proud to be serving in an episcopal parish.

970
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:34,639
We're girls and we're priests.

971
00:50:35,039 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 5: We're no stranger to holding a baby while preaching celebrating

972
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:39,280
the euchars.

973
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: It ain't her baby, because we know they don't have babies.

974
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course we're going to remind you that they

975
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:46,960
are a woman in scripture serving in church leadership.

976
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,679
Speaker 2: There's God for.

977
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 8: From the Book of Sirac chapter forty three.

978
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:02,119
Speaker 1: When it comes to marriage. I always thought that was

979
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:05,400
a between a man and woman, it was a religious sacrament.

980
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,320
When the government passed that law when Obama was in office,

981
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:12,679
I totally get why you say the government should be

982
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:14,079
able to do it, But why are they force some

983
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:15,039
churches to do it.

984
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: Social engineering, social control? I mean you mentioned the papercy earlier.

985
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,679
One reason I'm not a huge fan of the callelic

986
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,639
churches in the nineteen sixties and seventies when they were

987
00:51:26,679 --> 00:51:30,639
really pushing during the time of the Cold War to

988
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,079
make the Catholic Church a version of American soft power.

989
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:38,119
What they did was they sent in certain CIA operators,

990
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:40,920
one of whom was named CD Jackson, and he created

991
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,239
this idea of the doctrinal warfare program. This is a

992
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,760
real thing you can look at that it was declassifying

993
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,159
twenty thirteen. The idea was to make just with the

994
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,920
Roman calleg charis as examples, make it into a form

995
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,599
of American neoliberal soft power throughout the world. So they

996
00:51:56,639 --> 00:51:59,679
wanted to put politics first, and so in the documents

997
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:02,039
about it can too you'll find these statements like, oh,

998
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,760
Muslims and Christians and Jews, we all worship the same God,

999
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,360
and even Hindus worship this No Srotate is the document

1000
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,800
that was pushed about the CIA because the Rockefellers wanted

1001
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,519
eventually the Catholic Church to adopt birth control abortion and

1002
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:17,039
they thought the best way to do that would be

1003
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:19,599
to push these kinds of agendas through operatives like CD

1004
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,000
Jackson get them on board with fighting the Soviets.

1005
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,119
Speaker 2: But now you're under the influence of the CIA during

1006
00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:27,280
the Cold War. That crazy.

1007
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 3: So I think the papacy even into Francis and with

1008
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,199
this new guy, it's still just a tool of the

1009
00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:35,159
deep state.

1010
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, like I found in falls like our voting rights,

1011
00:52:42,519 --> 00:52:46,920
only men with property could vote, and uh, I never date.

1012
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:50,480
I don't think they ever foresaw women being in Congress.

1013
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:54,800
It's probably rolling around in their grave. Yeah, because women

1014
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,159
and men. I mean, I'm not saying women aren't intelligent,

1015
00:52:58,199 --> 00:53:01,079
it is just we think so different and women are

1016
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:05,599
so emotionally. It comes to things like that's so empathetic. Yeah,

1017
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:07,519
it's the only reason why we have men and women's

1018
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:12,639
sports now have women pushing like unallowing their children up

1019
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,360
to the up and to birth is all because of women.

1020
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 3: You can't have a society organized around feelings and equality.

1021
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,360
It's not possible because any organization, if it's going to run,

1022
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,239
has to have some kind of authority and hierarchy in it.

1023
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,719
You can have a tyranny, which is the excess of

1024
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,159
that right, But in terms of like Aerosol's philosophy, like

1025
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,039
just the golden mean, you got to have a balanced

1026
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,559
authority and leadership in place, and some notion of boundaries

1027
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:43,440
and standards and virtue in place for anything to function,

1028
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,159
whether it's a family, a business, a government, a school,

1029
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,360
a corporation. And I don't think that in terms of

1030
00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:55,639
biology and nature. Just go watch the debate that I

1031
00:53:55,679 --> 00:53:58,440
did with a Goofus girl for the last two days

1032
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,360
and see if you think she's a rational person who

1033
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,079
could lead something and organize something and run a business,

1034
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:06,719
it's not going to work. And that's who's pushing feminism

1035
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,360
as people like that who have no control of their emotions,

1036
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,199
no self control.

1037
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: And then when you let those people in affording comparing

1038
00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:19,000
the nation state of Israel to the history of feminism

1039
00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:21,280
is a false analogy. What was that comparing?

1040
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: You asked for a definition that was not connected to history,

1041
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:27,079
and then, by the way, you said that history is

1042
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:28,079
bound up with a definition.

1043
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,639
Speaker 2: That's fine Israel if you could define.

1044
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:36,079
Speaker 1: You said, yeah I could. No I didn't so that

1045
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:36,960
you could define Israel.

1046
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:37,639
Speaker 4: No I didn't.

1047
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: I said, for you, just stop giving.

1048
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: Me all of the history. And I know that there

1049
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:46,079
is a definition of history. And you just admitted that.

1050
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 5: You know, you don't have the brain capacity to define

1051
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,000
something without a five minute.

1052
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,519
Speaker 2: Monologue about you just admitted.

1053
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: He says, define Israel. Are you going to go back

1054
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,159
three thousand years?

1055
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: Yes, because it's an ancient historical nation.

1056
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,639
Speaker 1: So you can't find Israel without giving me a ten minutes.

1057
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: I know what a false is. So she's like, define

1058
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:10,199
something without the history. Feminism is a historical movement. I'm

1059
00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:10,719
not going to do that.

1060
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,599
Speaker 3: And then she then she goes, can you define Israel

1061
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:16,400
without history? And I'm like, no, it's a historical country

1062
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,000
or what do you mean?

1063
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,199
Speaker 2: It's just crazy? Yeah, how do I get this win?

1064
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: I asked for you just destrict You're so desperate.

1065
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,119
Speaker 2: She starts making like don like stuff.

1066
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like I said, she's like you don't have

1067
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,440
self control, Like you're making like don control?

1068
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,599
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? What's going on?

1069
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 9: So desperate?

1070
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: You're like, God, how do I get this?

1071
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,159
Speaker 6: Win?

1072
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: Should be pretty good at it. That's all that.

1073
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 3: That's like the only person we could find that would

1074
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,760
defend feminism in it. So it's actually hard to find somebody.

1075
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: Actually.

1076
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, so here's the pushers of feminism, right, I mean,

1077
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,239
but to your to the main point, like with that

1078
00:56:01,159 --> 00:56:06,000
till the Swinton dude, if just because people have different

1079
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:09,840
roles doesn't mean you're a lesser human.

1080
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,639
Speaker 1: Right, that's something the less that's the argument they try

1081
00:56:11,639 --> 00:56:11,840
to make.

1082
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,599
Speaker 3: That's the left to trying to convince people that just

1083
00:56:13,679 --> 00:56:16,119
because you have a different role you're somehow you know,

1084
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,159
dehumanized and degraded. But to have a child and to

1085
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,639
be a mom, there's nothing degrading about that, right, It

1086
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,320
is human. It's not dehumanizing.

1087
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1088
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do a lot more dehumanizing of themselves. That's

1089
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,239
when it comes to the child and the things they push.

1090
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a lot of the feminists also want like

1091
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:41,360
total sexual freedom, which is degrading because.

1092
00:56:41,159 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: They say it's liberating exactly, which is crazy. Being a

1093
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:46,199
whore is liberating.

1094
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:47,599
Speaker 2: If you want it to be.

1095
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: That's what they were saying. So we were on there

1096
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,960
for seven hours yesterday so or.

1097
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: Two days ago on. That's going to be exhausted. It

1098
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:58,719
was hell dude, it was torture right right right.

1099
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,159
Speaker 3: It It felt like some kind of ritual hazing, like

1100
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,880
I was being adducted into some kind of like a

1101
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,360
secret society or like a frat or something.

1102
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: Right, Like like the liberals, the left, they want they

1103
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,639
won't equality, but inequality is found naturally in everything. Yes,

1104
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,920
I mean in the NBA. You got Lebron James, then

1105
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,480
you got the guy nobody's ever heard of. You find

1106
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:22,599
inequality everywhere, and they just want to have this utopia

1107
00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:24,960
where everybody's equal and it's not possible, just like a

1108
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:25,920
doctor Seus's book.

1109
00:57:26,199 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine we just got paux noodles o that.

1110
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 3: It's like a four foot Vietnamese woman, right, she have

1111
00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:34,679
a right to be in there with Lebron or with Kobe,

1112
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,079
you know what I mean. Imagine her trying to play

1113
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:41,280
like NBA, you know what I mean. Yeah, but it's

1114
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,920
it's just it's just insane. I think that what that

1115
00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:48,280
evidence is is divorce, like a being divorced from reality,

1116
00:57:48,519 --> 00:57:49,039
you know what I mean.

1117
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:52,039
Speaker 2: Like, and so it creates a double like a dissociation.

1118
00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:55,639
Speaker 3: They're like dissociated, yeah, cut off from reality, and that's

1119
00:57:55,679 --> 00:57:58,400
why they start going crazy. Yeah, and they'll say, like,

1120
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,280
if you read Orwell in nineteen eighty four when he

1121
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,519
talked about double think, it was the ability to hold

1122
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:06,639
within like a few sentences, a contradiction at the same

1123
00:58:06,719 --> 00:58:09,400
time in your head. So the last two debates I

1124
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,079
did with women, I did them on purpose, just for fun.

1125
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,920
Both of them said, yeah, you can believe contradictory things

1126
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,079
at the same time. And I was like, the last one,

1127
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:20,800
I was like, did you read or Well, Yes, of

1128
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,840
course I've read it. And she actually thought it was

1129
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,159
a good thing. She thought that like being able to

1130
00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:28,760
hold a contradiction in your head was like girl power

1131
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,760
and the no, you're missing that's not what it means.

1132
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,519
Speaker 2: Like that's not a good thing, it's a bad.

1133
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,519
Speaker 1: Thing, right, right, hypocrite Yeah, right, So you wrote the

1134
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:42,039
books Esoteric Hollywood one and two. Let's how dig into

1135
00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:45,320
those books? Sure, if you had to pick one scene

1136
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,480
that makes you cringe, in Hollywood is in a movie,

1137
00:58:48,719 --> 00:58:49,360
what would.

1138
00:58:49,159 --> 00:58:55,559
Speaker 3: Be the way that they're remaking old movies like eighties movies,

1139
00:58:55,639 --> 00:58:59,800
hit movies from the seventies eighties, and then like putting

1140
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,039
all all the trans and the you know, like changing

1141
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:04,559
up the characters.

1142
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: And change like deleting scenes.

1143
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,719
Speaker 3: We were watching some episodes of It's Always Sonny Philadelphi,

1144
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:12,719
which really funny comedy show, and I didn't realize this, Like,

1145
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,639
so we were watching them on Netflix right back in

1146
00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:17,320
the time, back when it was on I was watching.

1147
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,960
I watched up to maybe season four, and that was

1148
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,960
as late as like twenty ten. You could still make

1149
00:59:23,199 --> 00:59:26,480
any kind of joke on a network show twenty teen.

1150
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:30,480
Now when you go through the Netflix, like there's like

1151
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:34,199
episodes that are deleted because they contain jokes that are

1152
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,920
no longer like trans jokes, race jokes, so you can't

1153
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:41,159
watch the episodes. I had to go find like you know,

1154
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:45,159
illegal illegal Russian you know, like streaming sites where you

1155
00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:45,639
can watch that.

1156
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: I want to watch the episode. It's not on here.

1157
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:49,239
Speaker 1: They haven't yet.

1158
00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:53,639
Speaker 2: That's true, because did you see season one with the

1159
00:59:53,679 --> 00:59:54,119
Jewish guy?

1160
00:59:55,199 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like yah ya, he's like he's like you

1161
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,920
other ya he's like, ya, the gollum.

1162
01:00:00,119 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: The gollum. Yeah, yeah, you know the gollum.

1163
01:00:06,639 --> 01:00:10,519
Speaker 1: You're looking at him, right.

1164
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: So they just haven't got to it yet, though they will. Sorry, yeah,

1165
01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:18,800
they'll get to it. Man, that's gonna be horrible. Yeah,

1166
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:20,639
I'm gonna screw it.

1167
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Speaker 1: So Allah, in the Muslim text, that's just means God.

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Speaker 2: It's just a term for God.

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Speaker 3: So like if you go to an Orthodox Christian church

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in the Middle East, yeah, like like in Florida we

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have Antiochian Orthodox churches which they do the liturgy in Arabic,

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and they'll call God Allah. So it's not the same reference.

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It's the same word, but a different reference. But I

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think you could make a good argument that the Allah

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that they worship, well, he steals land.

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Speaker 2: He tells you to kill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the best of deceivers, lying, stealing, thief. So

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Jesus said something about like the devil was a liar,

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a thief, like murderer from the beginning.

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Speaker 2: I think that's who I lie. Ish.

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Speaker 1: I heard a couple of people say we pray to

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the same God. I was like, I don't think.

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Speaker 3: So it's called a word concept fallacy, where it's like

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just because it's the same word.

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Speaker 2: Like easy example, Let's say I'm talking to a Satanist,

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like a.

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Speaker 3: Hardcore he believes the devil is the true God, right,

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and he says, I believe in one God. And I say, well,

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I believe in one God. Oh, that's the same God.

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That's actually a in logic as a fallacy, and the

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fallacy is that it's it's the same word, but two

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different references. So what he means by one God is satan.

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A scientologist could say, well, I believe there's one God,

1194
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,679
but they think it's just like their mind, right, So

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it's it's the same word, but different references.

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Speaker 2: So no, it's not the same.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like what democrats do with gender and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, play word games to play on words. Yep. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Did Jesus have sex?

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Speaker 2: No, we believe he was always a virgin, right, he

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01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,519
never had kids or anything like that. No that Mormons

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01:02:05,559 --> 01:02:07,840
think you did? The Mormons?

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01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think they think he got married and

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:16,480
had like a bloodline? Da Vinci code and Mormons share that.

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01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: Not. It's a it's an older.

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01:02:17,719 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 3: Gnostic tradition from the early in the early period of

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01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,000
the Church, there was this heretical group called the Gnostics mysticism, right,

1208
01:02:25,079 --> 01:02:29,079
and they believe that Jesus had children offspring. And because

1209
01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:30,920
Joseph Smith, I don't mean to get off in the Mormons,

1210
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,960
but he was influenced by Gnostic stuff, and so he

1211
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came up with this mythology of Jesus heaven children.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I want to ask you God, what does God

1213
01:02:42,119 --> 01:02:45,239
look like? I mean Jesus Jesus.

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Speaker 3: Well, in the Orthodox Church, we think that he looks

1215
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:50,440
like Orthodox icons. Like, we think he actually has like

1216
01:02:51,079 --> 01:02:55,719
that look, and so pretty much across most Orthodox iconography,

1217
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,159
which is you know what icons are, like the two

1218
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,480
D images that Orthodox churches have, you see a pretty

1219
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:04,760
uh unanimous presentation of.

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Speaker 2: What Jesus looks like throughout Orthodox icons. So we think

1221
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,519
he looks like that. We think our tradition has accurately

1222
01:03:11,039 --> 01:03:13,840
captured his look as a Hebrew dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the whole area of the world, like Jordan, Lebanon,

1224
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,880
Israel today.

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Speaker 2: It's exactly Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So those are Orthodox icons are usually pretty synonymous with

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the way Jesus presented because we have pretty strict rules

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in Orthodox Church about how you can do icons. You

1229
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,760
can't just like like Roman Catholics, are like they'll do

1230
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:38,800
like Chinese Jesus, black Jesus. Right, we think that Jesus

1231
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,920
has to be presented as Hebrew in terms of the

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01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,599
lineage that he had. So he's not a white dude,

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01:03:44,639 --> 01:03:46,440
He's not an Asian dude. He's not a black dude.

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01:03:46,719 --> 01:03:48,639
Speaker 2: Hebrew dude. He's definitely a black dude.

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Speaker 1: So it's like Arabic.

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,599
Speaker 3: Look, he's Hebrew, yeah, I mean, and you know there's

1237
01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:01,360
there's different types of skin colors of Hebrew. But right, Frost,

1238
01:04:01,679 --> 01:04:05,079
he has to be that to fulfill the prophecies of

1239
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:07,960
his lineage. So he's got to be a descendant of

1240
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:12,920
Adam and Abraham, descendate of David, right, So he can't

1241
01:04:13,159 --> 01:04:15,159
be a black dad, could be an Asian dad.

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Speaker 1: I just know by his character, Like in the moment,

1243
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,320
like the Mormans. Now, I remember as a little kid,

1244
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,559
me and Kim was playing outside and these woman kids

1245
01:04:28,639 --> 01:04:31,039
came to our house on bike, said that white shirts

1246
01:04:31,079 --> 01:04:34,159
and black guys, if I remember correctly, and they went

1247
01:04:34,199 --> 01:04:36,360
to my mama's house. Because whenever you want to talk

1248
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,119
about God Jesus, my mom would let you in the house. Right,

1249
01:04:39,199 --> 01:04:42,039
She's very religious. So me and my brother's outside playing

1250
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,159
and then I heard my mama, couse, get the fuck

1251
01:04:44,199 --> 01:04:44,760
out of my house.

1252
01:04:45,079 --> 01:04:45,719
Speaker 4: Your mother.

1253
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: Christians right, got you damn racist? And Mama said, what happened, Mama?

1254
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:57,079
He said, They said, I'm I'm a descendant of Cain

1255
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,760
and that's why my skin is brown.

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Speaker 3: I'm so Mormons believe in. Mormons believe in the pre

1257
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,599
existence of souls. That you weren't created at your conception.

1258
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,880
You existed before, okay, and so the reason that you

1259
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,079
have black skin is because you send in your previous life.

1260
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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1261
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 3: Oh, they believe that black people are the ones that

1262
01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:20,960
followed Lucifer in rebellion, and.

1263
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Speaker 2: So the curse was to be born as black. That's crazy. Yeah, No,

1264
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:27,960
that's a that's a.

1265
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Speaker 3: There's a great documentary that's pretty it's pretty well and

1266
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,440
it's called The god Makers. It's on YouTube. It's been

1267
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,360
around forever. So if you watch it, it's like a

1268
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,920
cartoon presentation of Mormon theology. It's like, he man, Dude,

1269
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,079
I grew up watching I gret watching he man.

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Speaker 2: It's just like that. The theology. Yes, the theology of

1271
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:51,599
Mormonism is sira and he man. I'm not joking. If

1272
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:55,360
it was like racist, right, Yeah, it sounds kind of believable.

1273
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 4: Though.

1274
01:05:58,239 --> 01:06:01,639
Speaker 2: Accidentally convert the hot sweitz of Mormon not even more man.

1275
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,639
Speaker 1: I was like, I be looking at my people as

1276
01:06:03,679 --> 01:06:08,000
a man, we'd be wild, specially the women. Was like, man,

1277
01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:09,119
what is wrong with us?

1278
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1279
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean maybe it's not all grow of them because

1280
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,039
we like like the video. I mean, but your Instagram.

1281
01:06:16,159 --> 01:06:19,440
You have Instagram, Facebook? Yeah, do videos pop up of

1282
01:06:19,559 --> 01:06:22,000
black women just being a loud and fighting in public?

1283
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:24,199
Speaker 2: In your feet they do a little bit.

1284
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Speaker 1: You do do not like? You don't watch it or

1285
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:28,719
you could get bombarded.

1286
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,719
Speaker 3: That's all you get. Yeah, I remember looking up something.

1287
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I was trying to find a video of a shall

1288
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we say, a retorted person, And now all my feed

1289
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,559
is nothing about down syndrome crazy. So anything you put

1290
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:40,639
in like you get infinite.

1291
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: By the way, that's it. That's it. It's funny. Do

1292
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you guys got to watch We're like us.

1293
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 9: They long ago on one of these God and one

1294
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,400
of his goddess wives spiritual.

1295
01:06:56,519 --> 01:07:00,519
Speaker 2: They believe God was the man who became God and then.

1296
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Speaker 4: That's physical body.

1297
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:11,159
Speaker 9: Look through obedience to Mormon teaching and death and resurrection,

1298
01:07:11,519 --> 01:07:12,280
he proved.

1299
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Speaker 2: Himself, as he meant, Jesus blonde hair, right.

1300
01:07:24,159 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 4: Planet, you're a mysterious star called.

1301
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they believe in a sci fi deal. Got

1302
01:07:31,519 --> 01:07:34,039
the Father's got the Father from the planet Cold.

1303
01:07:35,239 --> 01:07:39,239
Speaker 4: Produced billions of spirit children everybody.

1304
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,199
Speaker 2: Now that's because yeah, they were Arians. They had the

1305
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,079
Arian idea. And there's a Council of the gods.

1306
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,239
Speaker 3: By the way, did you notice that they had spirit

1307
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,000
babies and she was changing diapers. If you have a

1308
01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:55,119
spirit baby, how you changing a diaper?

1309
01:07:56,239 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: Spirit ship? Exactly?

1310
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: Wow, brother Jesus, this is like an Arian.

1311
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:11,559
Speaker 2: It is. He blended all kinds of weird. It's great.

1312
01:08:11,639 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, mysticism, it's science fiction too, like uh, you know,

1313
01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:17,520
like sciology exactly.

1314
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: Before from evil mm hmm.

1315
01:08:20,199 --> 01:08:24,119
Speaker 9: Sometimes Lucifer stood and made his bid for becoming savior

1316
01:08:24,199 --> 01:08:25,000
of this new world.

1317
01:08:25,079 --> 01:08:28,600
Speaker 2: This is where the black people go. They rebel and say,

1318
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:32,760
oh God, Jesus and brothers.

1319
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:37,039
Speaker 9: The Mormon Jesus suggested this mytholo freedom of choice as

1320
01:08:37,119 --> 01:08:41,720
on other planets. The vote that followed approved the proposal

1321
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:49,239
of the Mormon Jesus would become savior. Lucifer cunningly convinced

1322
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:52,439
one third of the spirits destined for Earth to fight

1323
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:58,760
with him and revolt. Thus Lucifer became the devil and

1324
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:03,399
his followers the Dean sent for this world.

1325
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 4: They would forever be denied bodies of flesh and bone.

1326
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,039
Those who remained neutral in the battle were cursed to

1327
01:09:11,119 --> 01:09:12,840
be born with black skin.

1328
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, explanation I thought. I thought.

1329
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: Again, dude, I don't think of a Mormon.

1330
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 2: I thought I thought you were on the back that

1331
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,119
you're just neutral, which is pretty.

1332
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,079
Speaker 4: Stiff posts the Book of Mormon described it.

1333
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: You're neutral. Prophets just crazy, and.

1334
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,520
Speaker 9: One of his goddess wives came to Earth as Adam

1335
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,439
and Eve to start the human race. Thousands of years later,

1336
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,840
Yellohem and human form once again journey the planet Earth

1337
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,319
from star based coloth have physics.

1338
01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: That's crazy. They came from another planet, but in order

1339
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,159
they ain't got no sail phones and you got all

1340
01:09:54,199 --> 01:09:55,000
this technology.

1341
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: They just floated here.

1342
01:09:58,399 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 9: One of the Mormon apostles thought that after Jesus Christ

1343
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,399
rwede a manhood, he took at least three wives.

1344
01:10:05,319 --> 01:10:09,119
Speaker 4: That's what I'm telling about Martha and Mary Magdalene.

1345
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: They all find too.

1346
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,199
Speaker 4: Supposedly, part of the number of he was crucified this.

1347
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:18,560
Speaker 2: Is an actual full documentary, but this is like the

1348
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:19,680
six minute clips.

1349
01:10:21,079 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 9: According to the Book of Mormon, after his resurrection, Jesus

1350
01:10:25,119 --> 01:10:27,640
came to the Americas to preach to the Indians.

1351
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, Israel, they think the Indians are the lost

1352
01:10:32,319 --> 01:10:33,039
tribes of Israel.

1353
01:10:33,159 --> 01:10:37,279
Speaker 9: Jesus of Mormonism established his church and the Americas as

1354
01:10:37,359 --> 01:10:38,680
he had in Palestine.

1355
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:40,279
Speaker 1: Palestine.

1356
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Speaker 3: So that you know how the Hebrew Israelites, like the

1357
01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:47,960
black people, think that the Hebrews, the Native Americans, that

1358
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,199
they became Mormon. They'd be like, no, We're the real Hebrews, right.

1359
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,239
They think there were Roman soldiers in Americas.

1360
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Speaker 2: It just gets it just gets.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: One a d the dark skinned Indian Israelites, known as Leimanites,

1363
01:11:07,399 --> 01:11:10,439
had destroyed all of the white Nephites in a number

1364
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:15,359
of great battles. The Knee Fights records were supposedly written

1365
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:20,399
on golden plates and buried by Moroni, the last living Neephite,

1366
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:21,680
in the Hill Camora.

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Speaker 4: Fourteen hundred years later, a.

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Speaker 9: Young treasure seeker named Joseph Smith, who was known for

1369
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:34,560
his tall tales, claimed to have uncovered these same gold

1370
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:39,479
plates near his home in Upstate New York. He is

1371
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,960
now honored by Mormons as a prophet because he claimed

1372
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:43,640
to have had.

1373
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Speaker 2: Visions from this What do you think about that?

1374
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: Which crazy.

1375
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 4: The Mormon Church all Christians.

1376
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Speaker 3: You know what's funny is that they won't tell you

1377
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,199
any of this stuff until after the Smith and they'll

1378
01:11:56,199 --> 01:11:57,960
admit it eventually, right. And I've had a bunch of

1379
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,520
Mormons come on the Baby on my channel and they'll

1380
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,600
be like, ah, well, okay, yeah we believe that, but

1381
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,199
they don't want to tell you that at first. The

1382
01:12:05,239 --> 01:12:06,840
guys that come to your mom's door, like, they're not

1383
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going to talk about Colab.

1384
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,159
Speaker 2: I'm there from Colob.

1385
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, which millions today believe to be true.

1386
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 9: By maintaining rig came through moral requirements and through performing

1387
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,880
sacred temple rituals for themselves and the dead, the latter

1388
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,279
day Saints hope to prove their worthiness.

1389
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,239
Speaker 1: Day saints become gods.

1390
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Speaker 9: The Mormons teach that everyone must stand at the final

1391
01:12:37,279 --> 01:12:38,880
judgment before Joseph Smith.

1392
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Speaker 3: Well again, God the Father was once a dude who

1393
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,079
became a God and then had a bunch of spirit babies.

1394
01:12:47,119 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 9: Those Mormons who were sealed in the eternal marriage ceremony

1395
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,159
expect to become polygamous gods in the celestial kingdom, rule

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over other.

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Speaker 4: Planets, spawn you and.

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Speaker 1: Blondes.

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Speaker 4: The Mormons, thank God, it's.

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Speaker 9: Done more for us than any other man, including Jesus Christ.

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01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,039
The Mormons believe that he died as a martyr, shed

1402
01:13:14,119 --> 01:13:18,479
his blood for us so that we too may become gods.

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01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:30,520
Speaker 1: Wow, some crazy shit. He just starts selling methylene blue,

1404
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,600
which is way better than energy drinks without the jenerous

1405
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,319
or the crash or the anxiety. Did it gives you?

1406
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1407
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: They also has some anti cancel properties in it. Yes,

1408
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,199
it's damn good methylene blue right now, head over on

1409
01:13:42,279 --> 01:13:43,439
fishwawast twins dot com.

1410
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:44,119
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: Who do you think the Antichrist is going to be?

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01:13:48,039 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: In the Orthodox Church?

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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 3: We have a lot of saints, elder church fathers who

1414
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,920
have opined that he would have to be of some

1415
01:13:55,119 --> 01:13:58,119
kind of Jewish descent or lineage or else. The Jews

1416
01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:01,840
wouldn't believe him to be there Messiah, So you know,

1417
01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:04,600
and John, I think it's John five. Jesus says, I

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01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,600
come in my father's name and you don't accept me,

1419
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,880
But if another comes in his own name him you

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01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:09,640
will accept.

1421
01:14:10,119 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 2: And a lot of people have thought that that's a

1422
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,119
reference to the Antichrist.

1423
01:14:13,119 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 3: So I would say that if you look at that,

1424
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,000
and what Paul says in Thessalonian is that Antichrist will

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01:14:17,039 --> 01:14:19,119
stand up in the temple and claim to be God

1426
01:14:19,159 --> 01:14:21,520
and so forth, there's gotta be another temple.

1427
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:22,159
Speaker 2: There have to be.

1428
01:14:23,359 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, my son sent me a video. I didn't watch it,

1429
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,720
and it was just I don't it looked like it

1430
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,880
looked like he was definitely Jewish. But he said, does

1431
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,399
God think he's the Antichrist? I never watched a video,

1432
01:14:35,399 --> 01:14:37,560
and I don't not who it was, but it's a

1433
01:14:39,039 --> 01:14:40,600
I wish I had watch it. But they said that

1434
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,840
the Antichrist is already here. What's his name?

1435
01:14:45,079 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 6: I forget his name.

1436
01:14:46,319 --> 01:14:49,039
Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about that Madi guy, I think, yeah, yeah,

1437
01:14:49,359 --> 01:14:51,920
the words a beanie, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

1438
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:52,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1439
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:54,159
Speaker 1: I haven't watched any it, though I'm taking to it.

1440
01:14:54,199 --> 01:14:54,960
I don't know what's going on.

1441
01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 2: So I was just on Rouslan's channel a few days

1442
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,560
ago and we did a whole hour on this dude.

1443
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's some kind of weird sect of Islam. He

1444
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:10,119
was a Shia Iranian Shia Muslim, and then he decided

1445
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:13,520
that he's his own branch, kind of created his own

1446
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,159
new religion, called it like the Religion of Peace and

1447
01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:19,920
Happiness for some some gay title or something really lame.

1448
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,520
But then he says, no, I'm the Mahdi, which is

1449
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:28,000
the sort of like a pre end times prophetic figure

1450
01:15:28,039 --> 01:15:31,920
for Muslims. So he's the Mahdi who they believe will

1451
01:15:32,079 --> 01:15:37,560
fight Antichrist. Muslims believe that, right. I don't think he's

1452
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,399
the Antichrist. But like John, like John says in First John,

1453
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,840
I mean anybody who denies that the Son of God

1454
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,079
is the Son of God is of the spirit of Antichrist.

1455
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,119
Speaker 5: One guy who's been leading a cult for many years

1456
01:15:49,159 --> 01:15:53,279
of this, yeah, who calls himself Abdullah Abba al Sadik,

1457
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:57,000
has people asking all over social media if this man

1458
01:15:57,359 --> 01:15:58,239
is the Antichrist.

1459
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:03,399
Speaker 11: I am abdullahs of Imam Mehdia Isadam, the successor of

1460
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:08,399
the comforter Ahmed, the successor of Simon Peter, the successor

1461
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,359
of Muhammad, the successor of Jesus Christ.

1462
01:16:13,399 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 12: I am the true and legitimate Pope. I am the

1463
01:16:16,119 --> 01:16:18,600
proof upon the Christians. I am the son of the

1464
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,680
Muslims through my father and the son of the Christians

1465
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,359
and the Jews through my mother. I am the son

1466
01:16:24,399 --> 01:16:26,680
of the East through my father, and the son of

1467
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,880
the West through my mother. I am like sul Karnain,

1468
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:32,520
who with one horn in the East and one in

1469
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,399
the West. And I am the inheritor of all that

1470
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,680
lies between. I am more knowledgeable than any false pope.

1471
01:16:40,039 --> 01:16:42,399
And I am appointed by name and the will of

1472
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,079
the prophets. My name is also on the tongue of Isaiah,

1473
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,279
who prophesied of the righteous Servant, and he said he

1474
01:16:50,399 --> 01:16:53,920
will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the

1475
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,479
will of the Lord will prosper in his Hanish.

1476
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,119
Speaker 2: So is he the Antichrist?

1477
01:17:00,399 --> 01:17:03,359
Speaker 5: No, No, I'm pretty sure he's not. I think he's

1478
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,880
just a kind of an odd syncretic Muslim. Elon Musk

1479
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,880
has a greater likelihood of being the anti Christ. And

1480
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,399
I'm not saying Elon is the anti Christ.

1481
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 2: I don't. I also don't think that, but.

1482
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it would be.

1483
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,399
Speaker 5: It would be much more a person like Elon Musk

1484
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,600
than like this random eccentric Muslim guy.

1485
01:17:19,159 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people say Elon Musk is the

1486
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:27,279
anti Christ. Him and Trump, Well, he's got a chip

1487
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,399
that he can do. He put it somebody he was

1488
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,359
paralyzed and you get actually type with it and everything,

1489
01:17:34,399 --> 01:17:36,279
and that was like, that's super crazy.

1490
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I think there will be a final Antichrist.

1491
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,079
I don't know who that'll be or when that'll be.

1492
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,880
But you know, again, in the Orthodox tradition, like we

1493
01:17:43,039 --> 01:17:46,560
believe that Paul's talking about, you know, a future rebuilt

1494
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,159
temple whenever that is, and that that would be one

1495
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:52,039
of the signs. And then when some figure arises that

1496
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,279
people start to think, really is God, that would be him.

1497
01:17:55,359 --> 01:17:58,319
I don't think either Trump or Elon could fit that

1498
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,079
bill for likewing up in a temple.

1499
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:02,359
Speaker 2: And you know, just doesn't.

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01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,119
Speaker 13: Hey, what do you think about Trump be the best temple?

1501
01:18:05,319 --> 01:18:08,079
Probably the third temple, but it's gonna be the best temple.

1502
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,479
What do you guys think, probably come out, come out

1503
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:12,800
and come to the temple.

1504
01:18:15,039 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: He does a good we were doing, we were trading

1505
01:18:17,039 --> 01:18:21,680
Trump impressions for y'all got here. Probably the best might

1506
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,359
be empty crash, but it's still great.

1507
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: Hey, what do you think about Trump's AI image of him?

1508
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,600
It's the pope that was funny. Yeah, you think he

1509
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,920
could get some sious trumble if he's a rebbi.

1510
01:18:38,039 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: If he did that, oh that's a good question.

1511
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:41,079
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1512
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 1: I think Christians were like, oh it's funny. But I

1513
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,880
think of a Rebi, I think you just put a

1514
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:47,760
mark on yourself.

1515
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 2: That's yeah. I mean Trump is just such a wild

1516
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,279
card dude, like you think, oh, we got impegged? Is

1517
01:18:53,359 --> 01:18:54,880
this and then he's like, I don't, I don't know

1518
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:55,199
about this.

1519
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 10: Yah.

1520
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,159
Speaker 13: Who He's getting on my nerves.

1521
01:18:57,199 --> 01:19:00,399
Speaker 3: It's like he'll flip the script right and criticist with Trump,

1522
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,399
But I think that overall, I appreciate most of what

1523
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,279
he does. I appreciate the flipping the script, you know.

1524
01:19:07,359 --> 01:19:10,840
I have problems with the whole warp speed. I criticize that. Yeah,

1525
01:19:11,319 --> 01:19:15,000
I mean there's been some big mistakes. But also, if anything,

1526
01:19:15,399 --> 01:19:18,359
he kind of cleared the way, you know, with like

1527
01:19:19,319 --> 01:19:22,159
years of talking about fake news from twenty sixteen on

1528
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,079
people to allow people to talk about things that you

1529
01:19:26,199 --> 01:19:27,479
couldn't talk about back then.

1530
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so at least for that, I appreciate it.

1531
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,039
But yeah, I disagree, Like I love what he's doing

1532
01:19:34,279 --> 01:19:36,680
in terms of economics, Bitcoin all that stuff.

1533
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,359
Speaker 3: I like what he's been saying more recently in regard

1534
01:19:41,399 --> 01:19:45,039
to Israel. Nothing y'aho, but definitely there's been a there's

1535
01:19:45,079 --> 01:19:46,600
some kind of internal struggle going on.

1536
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what's going on.

1537
01:19:48,319 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: Do you would you label that what's going on in

1538
01:19:52,279 --> 01:19:54,239
the Godza scrip and the Polystaias. Would you call it

1539
01:19:54,319 --> 01:19:56,159
a jitocide or ethnic cleansing.

1540
01:19:57,319 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 3: Well, I think early on Nattan y'all himself referenced a'milak,

1541
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,239
which is what I was getting out earlier, where he

1542
01:20:03,319 --> 01:20:05,600
was saying that we have a duty and decided I

1543
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,119
think Isaiah or Ezekiel. I forget what text he sided,

1544
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:10,600
but early on he said, we have a duty to

1545
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,279
get rid of amlak. And then again, if you look

1546
01:20:13,319 --> 01:20:17,199
at what that is, it's basically anyone that criticizes nation.

1547
01:20:17,159 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: State of Israel.

1548
01:20:18,039 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 3: So that could be me and my brother, anybody, all

1549
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,880
of us, right, And I think in rabbinic strict Rabbinic Judaism,

1550
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:27,119
they believe that they have a duty to enforce the

1551
01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:30,680
Noahide laws. Eventually most of them think that when the

1552
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,920
Messiah comes, the Messiah will enforce the no Hide laws

1553
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,720
on the Gentiles, and then the Jews get to basically be,

1554
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,000
you know, the pemps of the world.

1555
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,399
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people.

1556
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:44,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, that's it.

1557
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people joke about it. When I

1558
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,039
see Jews talking about this, he's like, Noah, we don't

1559
01:20:49,119 --> 01:20:54,359
run everything. That's like, I've made this determination. If if

1560
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,560
you can become president of the United States without being

1561
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:02,119
backed by Israel or APAK, then you don't run anything, right,

1562
01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:04,880
But to be a president in the United States of

1563
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,199
America you have to have that back. Without it, you

1564
01:21:07,279 --> 01:21:09,560
can't come president. Most of the time, you can't become

1565
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,199
an elected official in this country.

1566
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:13,399
Speaker 2: In terms of the money.

1567
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it seems like the money control the compromise,

1568
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,760
you know, these operations of what we've seen with EPSTEE

1569
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,199
and all that, like to get to a certain level

1570
01:21:22,359 --> 01:21:24,319
of at least government power.

1571
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 2: It seems to be the case.

1572
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 1: Ninety five percent of all elected officials in this country

1573
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,800
were backed by Israel. Yeah APEC. Without that money, you

1574
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:37,319
don't get elected. But it's ninety percent of Congress. Yeah,

1575
01:21:38,039 --> 01:21:39,119
that's that's nuts.

1576
01:21:39,359 --> 01:21:42,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think in terms of like the last

1577
01:21:42,279 --> 01:21:47,760
say thirty forty years for government positions, that's got to

1578
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:48,239
be the case.

1579
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:52,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a ran paying for five percent of

1580
01:21:52,239 --> 01:21:55,880
our politician. That wouldn't make any sense, but it's Israel

1581
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:56,680
it makes sense.

1582
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 3: Well, and you'll notice that you can oftentimes talk about

1583
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,239
Chinese compromise of people and governments.

1584
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,560
Speaker 1: Right, Russian we're supposed to believe.

1585
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,159
Speaker 3: We're supposed to believe that, Like you know, Russia, who's

1586
01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:12,479
this failed state, right that's collapsing and they can't do anything,

1587
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,640
But they also secretly got Trump in and they run

1588
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,319
in everything, and it doesn't make any sense. But yeah,

1589
01:22:17,399 --> 01:22:20,359
it's like, first of all, every nation state, I'm not

1590
01:22:20,399 --> 01:22:22,760
trying to cover up for espionage, but every nation state

1591
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,119
does espionage and tries to interject agents and get these

1592
01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:26,960
operations going.

1593
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 2: It's just what happens. Not saying it's good, it's just

1594
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:29,520
what happens.

1595
01:22:30,399 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 3: But when it's certain nation states in America through influence

1596
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,199
in the media and all that, like, it's you can't

1597
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:36,760
talk about it.

1598
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:37,199
Speaker 4: I mean.

1599
01:22:37,279 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 2: Strotsky says that in his book.

1600
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,039
Speaker 3: He said in nineteen ninety that when he published his book,

1601
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,199
any publisher that would talk about his.

1602
01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:47,359
Speaker 2: Book would get shut down and called anti submitic.

1603
01:22:48,159 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety, when he himself wrote the book, yeah,

1604
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,399
they if anyone reviewed the book, they were called anti submittic.

1605
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,199
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Yeah, in nineteen ninety.

1606
01:22:57,079 --> 01:22:59,279
Speaker 1: They do have a lot of power and influence of

1607
01:22:59,359 --> 01:23:01,720
our government, not people. I mean, it's a lot of

1608
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,000
a lot of people been banned to be on internet,

1609
01:23:04,119 --> 01:23:06,479
have a bank account just cause criticized Israe.

1610
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 2: So well, what let me ask you guys. I'm curious

1611
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,680
because you guys come out of a background of if

1612
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,840
you guys are big Trump supporters, right, yeah, I'm not

1613
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,720
saying 'or not, But what got you on that topic

1614
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,960
specifically being conservative republic like criticizing Israel?

1615
01:23:26,039 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just saying what's going on in Palestine. I

1616
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,479
was looking at Alex Jones and he ate Kanye, and

1617
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,439
Kanye he was saying some crazy stuff. You know, I

1618
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,560
thought it was crazy at the time, but and then

1619
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:40,520
and you know, it was it was. It was trending

1620
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,560
in my algorithm, and I kept seeing these people come

1621
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,680
up free Palestine, free Palestine, free pastor why these people

1622
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,920
keep saying it in the Palestine flag? And I started

1623
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,520
doing research and I found a Jewish lady who lived

1624
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:55,079
in Palestine. She said, that's an old video, yeah, nineteen forty.

1625
01:23:55,159 --> 01:23:59,359
She said, all our passports said Palestine. So I started

1626
01:23:59,399 --> 01:24:01,239
digging deep and deep and deeper, and I had other

1627
01:24:01,279 --> 01:24:02,800
people come on and I listened to other people. I

1628
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,159
was like, and I see the the drone footage of

1629
01:24:07,279 --> 01:24:09,239
Gaza in the West Bank, and I was like, man,

1630
01:24:09,279 --> 01:24:13,560
this is nuts. And then I just lately Canda shared

1631
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,079
some tweets of a politician who's running for office. I

1632
01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:18,119
think he's back by front where he shows a dead

1633
01:24:18,199 --> 01:24:21,039
baby and he's mocking the dead Palestinian baby.

1634
01:24:22,119 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I just remember that.

1635
01:24:24,279 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I started just going down the rabbitole because

1636
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,079
I was curious. I was like, because I was the

1637
01:24:28,119 --> 01:24:31,199
biggest fan of it. I'm still am a fan of

1638
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,520
you know, the Jewish people have in their own country.

1639
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,920
But the way they're going about it is just I

1640
01:24:36,039 --> 01:24:36,680
think it's wrong.

1641
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 3: It's weird, weird to do those like the way they

1642
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,159
went about this in terms of living in the Internet era,

1643
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,039
it's just odd optics that they thought that the world

1644
01:24:45,079 --> 01:24:47,439
would be like, yeah, sure, right, it's weird.

1645
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: You've seen that drone footage. Just like every building where

1646
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,520
the Palestines live it's like been bombed. I'm like, and

1647
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,520
he keeps saying they're using their children and their families

1648
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,560
as human shields. I was like, I still to this

1649
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,199
day haven't seen not one Moss soldier. I haven't seen

1650
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,359
any of these things that they speak of. And I

1651
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,199
just started, you know, digging, digging, digging on. It's just

1652
01:25:08,359 --> 01:25:11,239
everything that comes out of there is just, And especially

1653
01:25:11,319 --> 01:25:14,960
when I even criticize them, the label me as anti Samericans.

1654
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,039
I don't hate Jewish people. I don't like what that

1655
01:25:17,159 --> 01:25:20,560
government that That is crazy. So they're bombing those areas

1656
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:29,479
called homoses there supposed Yeah, Yeah, it's like a saying, oh,

1657
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,239
I thought he had a gun. It's Trump going to

1658
01:25:32,399 --> 01:25:35,600
we have church in our country. We don't bomb civilians

1659
01:25:36,239 --> 01:25:40,159
and kill. If Trump started bombing gang members, it started

1660
01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:44,359
killing innocent civilians, he was be impeached. Why is he

1661
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,640
getting away with stuff like this in his own country? Yeah,

1662
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,479
and those supposedly are your citizens.

1663
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 3: Well, we're not supposed to have a debate with a

1664
01:25:53,039 --> 01:25:55,640
guy who is defending this position and this stuff. And

1665
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,960
he was like, you have a moral duty to do

1666
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,600
this when Israel's and trouble, And then people were like,

1667
01:26:02,159 --> 01:26:04,239
well do we have a moral duty to do that too?

1668
01:26:04,319 --> 01:26:07,520
Then everybody in trouble, right, so we should be literally

1669
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,560
just bombing everyone anywhere when someone's in trouble. It's like

1670
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,680
just weird mental gymnastics to make all this stuff work.

1671
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean response you have you have the right

1672
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,560
to go seek out terrorists in your country. Yeah, but

1673
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,079
you just don't bomb people's houses because you think there's

1674
01:26:25,119 --> 01:26:27,000
a terrace and there you go in you arrest them

1675
01:26:27,079 --> 01:26:32,119
like normal saying societies such warrant. Yeah, get a damn

1676
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:34,800
such war. I have a war for your arrest. We

1677
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,720
don't bomb in legal aliens in our country. That makes sense.

1678
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:39,399
Speaker 2: And it was weird too.

1679
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,119
Speaker 3: That was happening under the Obama administration too. Remember back

1680
01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:45,880
when bomb like twenty twelve ish and Obama's getting a

1681
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:50,000
lot of flat because they were just drone bombing weddings because.

1682
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,600
Speaker 2: There might be a We got a bombam got to

1683
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:53,079
take them out.

1684
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 3: My wife, My wife, Michael says, I got a bomb,

1685
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,199
take them out, you know what I mean?

1686
01:26:58,159 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there might be a terrorist there.

1687
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, we came out and was like when we

1688
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,680
started finding all this information, we shard it with our fans.

1689
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,279
They blew up, they were pissed the man. Yeah, it's

1690
01:27:08,359 --> 01:27:10,960
like you guys are like, oh so anti Semitic. They

1691
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:12,960
would say this hold on, I thought you were a Christian.

1692
01:27:14,079 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So every time I hear this, it just

1693
01:27:17,079 --> 01:27:19,199
maybe it's the spurg in me. It bugs me because

1694
01:27:19,399 --> 01:27:23,119
you like to be a semi to be a sham

1695
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,680
the Senate of Shem. Doesn't that also include Arab people's Yes, yes,

1696
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,359
it's just so stupid people.

1697
01:27:30,039 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 1: It's like they hijacked that term to only fit their agenda,

1698
01:27:33,119 --> 01:27:37,079
like the word Israel. Right, So I feel like I'm

1699
01:27:37,119 --> 01:27:42,239
not crazy anymore. Somebody agrees with me. Yeah, but Republicans don't. Well,

1700
01:27:42,399 --> 01:27:44,359
I think a lot of Republicans will start opening eyes

1701
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:44,880
up to it though.

1702
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:49,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of Republicans were also indoctrinated through

1703
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:54,119
a lot of this evangelical deception Church Schofield stuff where

1704
01:27:54,119 --> 01:27:56,520
they were tall I was. I was raised Baptist, so

1705
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,560
like I was raised thinking all that end times John

1706
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,000
Hagen's stuff is what the Bible's talking about. And then

1707
01:28:02,039 --> 01:28:04,359
I read Galatians six. Paul says the Church is the

1708
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:08,000
israel God, not the flesh nator set of Israel. And

1709
01:28:08,039 --> 01:28:09,800
then you're Regalatians three and four, and he says that

1710
01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:12,239
the only way to be a son of Abraham is

1711
01:28:12,279 --> 01:28:15,560
to be in Christ that's the only seed. There's no

1712
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,239
other seed. There's no being a seed of Abraham that

1713
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:23,159
counts right genetically for salvation.

1714
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,039
Speaker 1: All the Jews and Muslims they going to Hell.

1715
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,119
Speaker 2: To be a seed, right, the promise.

1716
01:28:33,279 --> 01:28:36,039
Speaker 3: Paul's arguing in Galatians three and four that the promises

1717
01:28:36,119 --> 01:28:39,520
to Abraham because remember, Abraham's a gentile. A lot of

1718
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,760
people forget that, right, he's the first of the Jews,

1719
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:46,560
but he's a gentile convert even in Judaism. And Paul's

1720
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,439
arguing that in Genesis twelve, fifteen, seventeen, and twenty two,

1721
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,760
all those key chapters when God's you know, interacting in

1722
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:57,479
this covenant relationship with Abraham, that the covenant has always

1723
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:01,800
been in Jesus Christ back then, because the seed that's

1724
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,439
promised in those chapters is Jesus. Jesus is the seed.

1725
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,640
That's Paul's argument in English is three and four. And

1726
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:13,680
if that's true, we're all Jews, spiritual Jews, are Christians. Yeah,

1727
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,840
you are all in Christ and you are the seed

1728
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,239
in that chapter in Glaciers three.

1729
01:29:19,319 --> 01:29:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1730
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: So do you think Trump is starting to distance them

1731
01:29:22,319 --> 01:29:23,319
himself from it now?

1732
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, whether it's political or whether they really

1733
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,000
just don't get along or you know, because there's have

1734
01:29:29,039 --> 01:29:31,520
been these stories that he kind of stabbed Trump in

1735
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,399
the back a few times in the last several years

1736
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,039
and he's you know, they won't pick up the phone,

1737
01:29:36,079 --> 01:29:38,079
and it's that. So I don't know what's There was

1738
01:29:38,119 --> 01:29:39,800
some drama about that, like a year or two ago.

1739
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,520
So I think that eventually, Look, when people when a

1740
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,119
people group is so belligerent and acts like a cult,

1741
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,439
and I think Rabbinic Judaism as a cult, it's kind

1742
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:54,399
of like any other cult.

1743
01:29:55,199 --> 01:29:57,039
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're like putting string up so you

1744
01:29:57,039 --> 01:30:00,479
can walk outside to get around the Sabbath, that's like

1745
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:01,560
a cult is weird.

1746
01:30:02,119 --> 01:30:05,520
Speaker 1: So uh, they make up their own rules.

1747
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 3: I think eventually it's gonna sour itself, you know what

1748
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,159
I mean. So I think that probably it was a

1749
01:30:13,199 --> 01:30:17,960
matter of time before these relationships, these friendly relationships sour,

1750
01:30:18,079 --> 01:30:22,079
because I mean they just they do blackmail on everybody.

1751
01:30:22,159 --> 01:30:28,359
But once people start figuring that out, it's like right, right, Jews.

1752
01:30:28,159 --> 01:30:31,039
Speaker 4: Like trying to kocherize their kitchen and they use a flamethrower.

1753
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 1: So we begin by conturing the floor.

1754
01:30:36,399 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 14: That was just a joke, But why are we running

1755
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,520
a flame throughout a kitchen that is already kosher because

1756
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,520
for the holiday of Passover pace we refrained from eating cummets,

1757
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,640
any food that is leavened, and for that matter, any

1758
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,800
surfaces that came in contact with such foods flames.

1759
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,399
Speaker 3: When I was talking about the switch, the light switch,

1760
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:57,560
there's one for a toilet too, because you can't work

1761
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,199
on the sabbath, which flushed the toilet. So was the

1762
01:31:00,279 --> 01:31:02,039
thing that you push a button and it doesn't actually

1763
01:31:02,079 --> 01:31:05,159
flush itself, it just lets the flush happen. Right, So

1764
01:31:05,279 --> 01:31:09,359
there's a market that's that, Like the Orthodox Ascidic community

1765
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:13,720
has a products that allow you to not violate the sapath.

1766
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,239
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's all it's like its own a little market.

1767
01:31:16,359 --> 01:31:16,720
That funny.

1768
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:21,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's yeah, this is this is the Okay,

1769
01:31:21,199 --> 01:31:22,560
this is two, and it's one.

1770
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and part three is about to come out.

1771
01:31:25,399 --> 01:31:28,520
Speaker 1: And and in these books you speak of similis when

1772
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,159
it's in a lot of movies that we don't even

1773
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:30,640
catch on to.

1774
01:31:31,079 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly. That's kind of what.

1775
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:35,520
Speaker 3: So when I was doing grad work, I was focusing

1776
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,479
on how movies use symbolism for propaganda, and particularly during

1777
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:46,039
the Cold War, Western intelligence used figures like James Bond

1778
01:31:46,119 --> 01:31:49,600
to project the Western ideas through film and through TV

1779
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,600
and symbolism. So like in that first book, I covered

1780
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,239
not just Bond, but like how Kubrick was telling us

1781
01:31:56,239 --> 01:31:59,319
stuff with like Epstein saw stuff in terms of eyes

1782
01:31:59,359 --> 01:32:01,960
wait shut, because remember they're trying to kind of rope

1783
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,159
Tom Cruise in that movie into like a sex cult

1784
01:32:06,119 --> 01:32:08,800
and they're trying to control him. And I've argued that

1785
01:32:09,079 --> 01:32:11,680
like whether or not you think Kubrick was a hero

1786
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,119
or not, Like I think he was kind of explaining

1787
01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:16,520
the way the world really works in movies like Aswad Shot,

1788
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,199
because it's exactly what you see in like, you know,

1789
01:32:19,279 --> 01:32:21,600
Epstein style stuff. So there's a lot of these kind

1790
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,439
of hidden gems even in old movies that people forgotten,

1791
01:32:25,279 --> 01:32:27,479
that I think are worth decoding in terms of symbolism.

1792
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: Right, So Hollywood moves the field with a bunch of

1793
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:32,880
propagandas so who runs Hollywood?

1794
01:32:34,119 --> 01:32:37,520
Speaker 2: The kataris Chinese?

1795
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 3: Kataris well, you know, you know there was a time

1796
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:53,239
when I think back in early Hollywood there was one

1797
01:32:53,359 --> 01:32:57,800
studio that wasn't Jewish control to run it was I

1798
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,479
think it was RKO, and then that kind of went

1799
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,439
away in the forties or fifties. So I think all

1800
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:07,279
of the studios, the studio system was totally run controlled, absolutely.

1801
01:33:07,279 --> 01:33:09,000
In fact, there's a book that Jews wrote about it

1802
01:33:09,119 --> 01:33:12,399
called Empire of their Own about Hollywood being Jewish empire.

1803
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: So they've run all the Hollywood.

1804
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:17,199
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the studios, so like you can still

1805
01:33:17,239 --> 01:33:21,520
have people like independent filmmakers that make popular movies that

1806
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,880
get out, but I think for a lot of the

1807
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:27,079
studio system, and that doesn't mean every movie is controlled

1808
01:33:27,199 --> 01:33:30,720
or every position is, because there's been a lot of

1809
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:34,479
good movies and even wholesome movies over the years, but

1810
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,479
as an entity in Toto the last one hundred years

1811
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,560
of the studio system, like ever Brenees in his book Propaganda,

1812
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:46,199
he said, Hollywood is the greatest propaganda engine the world's

1813
01:33:46,199 --> 01:33:49,760
ever seen. And when I read that in Burne's book,

1814
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:51,960
I was like, I should write a book on like

1815
01:33:52,119 --> 01:33:54,079
movies that's propaganda, you know what I mean. So I

1816
01:33:54,119 --> 01:33:55,479
took a lot of my grad work and just kind

1817
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:58,039
of put it into that. But that one and then

1818
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:00,760
that one's organized a little more thema. So this one

1819
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:05,319
is directors like Kubrick and Spielberg and Hitchcock, and that

1820
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,279
one is organized more like themes of like what's Hollywoods

1821
01:34:08,279 --> 01:34:09,439
connection to organized crime?

1822
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 2: How the movies portray organized crime? And how is it real?

1823
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 3: What about CIA? What about intelligence agencies in their relationship

1824
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,239
to Hollywood? And then the third ones coming out, And

1825
01:34:20,319 --> 01:34:22,439
that was a lot of movies that I didn't get

1826
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,520
to in those two. So like Marvel stuff, because Marvel

1827
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,880
has a lot of feminist propaganda, a lot of like

1828
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:28,960
gender propaganda.

1829
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:31,399
Speaker 2: So I dissect all that.

1830
01:34:32,079 --> 01:34:35,079
Speaker 1: How about these musicians like Lady Guy Guy and forget

1831
01:34:35,119 --> 01:34:37,880
the others name. They're always throwing up symbols and might

1832
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,359
if it looks satanic? Yeah, do you think they practice

1833
01:34:41,359 --> 01:34:42,000
that on stage?

1834
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 3: I think they think they're doing rituals, right, They think

1835
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:49,359
that they're evoking you know, maybe not everybody, but some

1836
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,159
of them actually believe. Like I think Jay Z he

1837
01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:55,159
got into Alister Crowley and Satanism by his own admission,

1838
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,600
and I think he's fairly serious about it.

1839
01:34:58,880 --> 01:34:59,319
Speaker 2: He might be.

1840
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,399
Speaker 3: He might even be Beyonce's handler, you know what I mean.

1841
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,399
I don't know, but Beyonce said a lot of really

1842
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,680
weird stuff about you know, her relationship to jay Z

1843
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:12,199
and their views of like of the occult and witchcraft.

1844
01:35:12,279 --> 01:35:13,960
So I think that some of these pop stars and

1845
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,840
these and these people the moguls are also into real state,

1846
01:35:18,199 --> 01:35:20,840
real satanic stuff for sure. My wife, by the way,

1847
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,960
she wrote a book on the pop star side of it.

1848
01:35:24,119 --> 01:35:25,840
Like she's got two books at my website too, you

1849
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,800
can get her books. I focus on the movies, and

1850
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,039
then she wrote on the pop stars. So I think

1851
01:35:31,079 --> 01:35:33,520
the pop stars are there as like ways to degrade

1852
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:37,199
the culture and to you know, be an archetype that

1853
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:39,720
young girls look up to. I want to be like

1854
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,319
Katie Perry, and that means I got to go be

1855
01:35:41,399 --> 01:35:45,079
a whore basically, Like it's it's a way to degrade

1856
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the the culture through these archetypal symbols and the music.

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Speaker 1: The black community.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's actually a bunch of gay dudes, right

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right right, I mean, and then it's it's you know,

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similar with like the pop stars or it's like they're

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basically just products that are created.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they don't have any talent.

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Speaker 1: Tac I saw a video of him before he was

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real famous he was, and that's like this guy comes

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off like a homosexual.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sassy, he got a little sass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he became this big time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There was even a somebody did an album I want

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to say it was like Biggie or or somebody. They

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had an album with him with Tupac on the back

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wearing a dress. Because really, people were arguing, Yeah, people

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were arguing that.

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Speaker 2: They were saying a long time ago, he's not really

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what he protected, you know, portraying banging Tupac.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, Well, why you're gonna put a man

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in a dress unless you're gonna bang them?

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Speaker 2: Well, he put on the album like a disc. I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I say, I said, said small Negro brain. Well,

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in one of the Biggie Smalls rap videos, he actually

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had a transgender remember that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that he's it up jumping.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually had a transgender in a man's bathroom

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with a bunch of guys and it was Yeah, this

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was back in the nineties.

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of the nineties, like that trend stuff, I

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think a lot of that stuff is cultural engineering, Like

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they plan to roll that stuff out, and they'll have

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certain pop figures do it early to roll it out.

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So you had like ru Paul, you know, twenty thirty

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years ago, and then we were watching this stupid Van

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Damn movie that I've never seen, remember, Double Team? Yeah yeah,

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Well in Double Team, Dennis Robmin is all right, right,

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he's there's a whole He's got a training club. Really

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yeah in the movie, isn't that crazy? Well he used

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to dress, he would where he would wear a wedding dresses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when he married Madonna he wore a wedding dress.

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Speaker 1: So you think they're social engineering Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like way ahead of time, like yeah, rolling, getting

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people used to it, prepared for it, right, so they're

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not immediately So.

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Speaker 2: You have like these cultural Uh I didn't even know that.

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You have these figures that kind of.

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Speaker 3: Go over the edge early to get it to make

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a scene, and then that just allows the window to

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be open to move the overtime window over time is

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a technique.

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Speaker 1: What Trump's doing with his executive was about men in sports,

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in women's sports. Do you think that's going to be

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a temporary thing, because let's say Democrat, you know, gain

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power game, they could just reverse everything he's done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's possible.

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Speaker 3: But I also think that like a lot of the

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public's perception and attitude on a lot of this stuff

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is shifting because people are like, they went really far

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with that stuff, right, and so I think there's a

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reaction against it.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard if they do that.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be difficult to estimate the stupid of a

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woman or a Democrat to keep doubling down. It's like

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they're still saying the same things that got that caused

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him lose this last election, and they're they're sticking with it.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they don't move at all with the cultural tie,

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which is going to make it more more difficult.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about this Diddy trial.

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Speaker 3: I've been arguing for that. We've done a bunch of

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podcasts on this the last year.

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Speaker 1: I think he gets pissed off the wrong jew or something.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it looks like he was possibly when he

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got investigated by the fees. If you remember this, like

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in the early two thousands, he might have gotten brought

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in as some kind of informative back then, and so

1934
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now maybe he's getting burned. I think I agree with you,

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like he made somebody mad, so he's going to be

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the patsy. I don't think he was running everything, but

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I don't think absolutely. I think just Laine and her

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dad were the real like mogul figures. He trained his

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daughter to do all that stuff, and then he was

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just working for him, having fun, I guess, yeah. And

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so I think probably did. He was working for people.

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He pissed off the wrong person, but I think he

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was still complicit. He was running like a smaller version Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Probably.

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Speaker 1: What about Bill Cosby, That's.

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Speaker 3: A tough one because I mean, I've heard people argue

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that he might not have been as bad as people say.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to excuse if you did drug women, but.

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Speaker 3: I wonder too if, like I mean, they were people

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are so the side this pro Bill Cosby argues that

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he was helping black culture by being this figure I'm

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not by Druggon.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't surprise people worship murderers nowadays, Okay, But but.

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Speaker 3: Like their their side is because he was going around

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and being a positive influence, because he was giving these

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lectures on like how young black guys need to be.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. That he was targeted by.

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Speaker 1: Me too because of that, mm hmm makes sense.

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Speaker 2: But then I watched that Cosby episode where he's like

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talking about special sauce. You know I'm talking about that.

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I'm like, I don't know, I really don't know, but

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I wouldn't be surprised. What do y'all think?

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Speaker 1: Well, I've seen some interviews, but by some of his accusers,

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they said they would come there, he would give them

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the pills and they would take it. It was like

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he didn't slip it in your drink without you knowing

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and saying no, they was taking these pills. You knew

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what you involved in before you and they would go

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back and he went back. It's like you're complicit in

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the crime too. You should get some jail time, Okay. Yeah,

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And I think a lot of those women was because

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you know, I think he pissed off the wrong person too. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: But Spanish fly was the thing that all boys from

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age eleven on up to death.

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Speaker 8: We will still be searching for Spanish flyer.

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Speaker 2: And and what was the old The old.

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Speaker 10: Story was if you took it a little drop, it

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was on the head of a pin, it doesn't make

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it and the girl would drink it and.

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Speaker 1: Hello American, that's crazy.

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Speaker 10: Spanish fly was the thing that all from age eleven

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on to death.

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Speaker 8: We will still be searching for Spanish flyer and and

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and what was the old The old story was if

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you took a little drop, it was on the head.

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Speaker 2: Of a pin.

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Speaker 1: Doctor.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen that glove. That's American.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy man. That was on TV. Yeah, drugging women.

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Times have changed, he did it no more. Yeah, all right, man,

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this has been great. Hey, where can people find you

1992
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in your books and stuff?

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all all the social media is you can find

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me just under my name. And the third book is

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coming out. You can get pre orders. It's be two

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much before it comes out. Okay, so yeah, people can

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just go to my website and pre order there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: James analysis dot com. Absolutely, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank jadier dot com.

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Speaker 3: Uh, jasonalysis dot com. And then any of the social

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media is under my name.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for absolutely thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's damn