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Speaker 1: I want to welcome everyone back to the Pikaiana Show

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and thank you. This is my thousandth episode. If you

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would have told me when I started this that I

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would have had a thousandth episode, I would have told

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you that you were probably insane and I'd probably be

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dead by now or something. But here I am, and

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I invited my friend Thomas seven seven seven to come

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on the show and do this with me.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Thomas, I'm very well, thank you and

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minored to be here for the for the millenerian episode,

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I guess. I mean, that's no, it's no small thing.

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A thousand episodes. That's a hell of a lot of content.

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That's a real milestone. And and it's a milestone that

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it's New Year's Eve. This has been a really incredible year.

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I mean, everybody says that. I mean that. I don't.

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I don't mean it in a corny way. I mean

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it really has. And I'm profoundly optimistic for twenty twenty four.

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So we're in a good place.

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Speaker 1: I am what I am as well. I'm very optimistic

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for twenty twenty four. I think if our people really

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concentrate on getting things done, taking care of business, this

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Year twenty twenty four. At the end, we're going to

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be much stronger for it. They will be much stronger

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for it too.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a historical moment underway. Yeah, definitely. And

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I think I'm both old enough and I'm plugged in

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enough to the zeitgeist, because I mean, that's frankly, all

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I do is try and perceive these things. You know,

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I think I can. I think I can read the

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proverbial tea leaves more deeptely than some men. So yeah,

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these are exciting times. Man, It's good we're here on

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New Year's Eve producing content like the busy bees. We

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are not not not doing gross stuff for New Year's Eve,

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like like dodging pedals of vomit and stepping over like

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weeping fit chicks.

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Speaker 1: Those days are gone for me. I like being I

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like being at home, being at home or being with friends.

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So well, what I wanted to do, what I wanted

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to ask is well, what I wanted to say is

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the reason I chose this to read is because it's

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something very different than what I normally read. A lot

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of this is poetry, is very poetic. I also think

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that I'm pretty sure this is probably the last thing

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that mister Degreaul wrote. It seemed definitely seems like it's

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probably the last thing that he wrote that it really

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meant something to him. I thought we'd open this up

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by tell us a little bit about what you know

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about Leon de Grell.

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Speaker 2: I mean, in the Inner War yors, the girl was

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too young to have fought in the Great War. I

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think he was born in nineteen o six. He was

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born in a five or six like around there, okay,

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but he came of age. He was very much marriornate

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in the culture of the Inner War years. And one

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of the things that's lacking in court history accounts, even

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ones that aren't particularly punitive in terms of casting Germany

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as being taken swept up by a kind of cultural

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pathology that was both against precedent and not really connected

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to the spirit of the age other other than in

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a kind of contrarian way. But there, you know the

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things that were ripping through Germany, you know, very powerful,

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intense energies of a constructive and destructive nature, this kind

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of confrontation with the future and with the present, which

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had all the trappings of a kind of ominous future.

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Like this stuff was the stuff was impacting every culture

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in Europe, okay, rit large, and I mean that's why,

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like we talked about in the Spanish War, Sodes, you know,

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there there was a truly on the nationalist side of

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the fascist side, which you know is an incomplete characterization,

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which is for purpose as a shorthand description. I think

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that's at least adequate. You know, like we talked about,

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you know, there was the funerals at Vasili Marine and

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ion Mota, you know, these Romanian Iron Guard guys, and

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you know it was uh you know, Italians, German national socialists,

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you know, Hungarians, you know, uh Carlos types in Spain

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who supported the crown. You know, like all these all

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these all these anti communists, right wing elements, you know,

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turned out to literally salute like there this funeral procession.

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these frontline formations in the Spanish War, I mean they

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they were guys from all kinds of backgrounds and you know,

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all all the nations of Europe quite literally, and you know,

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they common bond was you know, a belief in like

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you know, in race, you know, like capital r you know,

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like a you know, faith in God, you know, a

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radically highest commitment to those things, you know. And in Belgium,

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there's a lot of high culture that comes from Belgium,

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you know, I mean it's it's not just it's not

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just this kind of like accidental convergence of German or

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Dutch culture and and you know, kind of like a

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Francophone state. It it really is a unique place. I

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got been there like many years ago. You know, the

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girl was the girl was a Walloon? Is it Belgian?

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Like a Francophone Belgian. The right wing tendency there that

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he was actually instrumental and kind of creating it was

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very much I mean it was it was the Rexist Party,

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and it was it was very much royalist, you know

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kind of supervisual trappings. But it was very national Socialist adjacent. Okay,

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it was very other than me Catholic and openly Catholic

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and royalists like it was. I'd say it was more

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adjacent to to the national Socialist the culture than any

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other and any other of the the the the lesser

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access movements, say maybe the the situation in Croatia, but

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that's basically the that that's a culture from from where

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de Grelle emerged. And initially, Uh, there's a wild Loon

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legion that was incorporated into the Wehrmacht. The term legion

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was kind of loosely apply, like I think, UH, it

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could mean anything from a force that was, you know,

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slightly larger than than that company you know in AH

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in the US Army or the British Army of the day,

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you know, to something that was you know, the size

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of a like a battalion and a half, you know,

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so it veried. But the well in legion was it

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was it was comparatively small, but it was game enough,

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and it was it was populated enough by volunteers that

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you know, the UH it enjoyed the honor of being

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formally incorporated into the Verrimax and then later the Grille

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Uh proved himself an incredible an incredibly effective like infantry

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combat commander. Okay, first at squad and then platoon and

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then you know, company level and beyond. Is a very

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young man and all to the wild and legion became

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part of the WAFS and that was very much the

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Grell's That was much it is behest the Grell believed

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in the waf SS, okay, and that's important, Like, it

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wasn't just the reason why there was such the look

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kind of the delicately and very and powerfully uh evocative

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uh like they delicately crafted, and the and the kind

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of like the the powerfully evocative in design heraldry of

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the SS. Like that wasn't an accident. It wasn't just

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because it wasn't just because German artists attached to the

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attached to the officer schools were bored or something like.

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an enduring institution. It was supposed to represent the pan

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European idea. And moving forward after n SIG, you know,

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there there was gonna be a there was gonna be

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a European army, okay. And to what degree they would

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have butted heads uh with the Wehrmacht, that's hard to say.

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and there was there's a lot of mutual respect between

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the here and between the SS that develops. I don't

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a long night situation at all. But point being, you know,

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de Grelle. He wasn't just this kind of dreamy you know,

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pan europeanist to who else would be a war hero

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like he? You know, he the culture of the s S.

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and Piper and Kurt panzer Meyer. It was Paul Hauser,

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who's who's a non military genius in my opinion. And

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he was kind of the big hous was kind of

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the big defector from the old sort of army elite,

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you know who I mean. He he he signed on

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for the s S immediately. And it's not like he

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was some It's not like he was a guy, you

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know who had problems like some of these early and

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S authors did, like who were great comic commanders, but

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you know they had a problem with womanizing or brawling

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or alcoholism or something like Howser could have done anything

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he wanted, you know, but he he believed in the

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vafn SS, you know, like as as a proposition and

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as an enterprise and to itself that was essential to

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you know, what was to become the new order. So

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the girl kind of embodied all those things, you know,

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the war. He quite literally crashed landed in Franco Spain

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as a wanted man, and he he lived to be

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quite elderly. He lived until the nineteen nineties, early nineties

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I think he was alive until like ninety three, ninety four.

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like mingle with people, and you know, he he very

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much positioned himself as kind of a defender of the

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historical record. He never shied from his war record. You know,

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up until the day he died, he'd on a formal occasions,

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you know, he he'd wear his like war decorations, you know,

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and uh he was he was proud of the vafinances

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on the day he died. So he was he was

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a real man and a real patriot. And especially you

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know because my like my generation, our generation, we were

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kind of like the last generation of young people you

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know who are like around like World War Two veterans.

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but some with some of the some of the American

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dudes who were active, you know, with in IHR and

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and with like liberty lobby stuff, you know, ladies early nineties,

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and they who had a chance to meet him, and

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they just said he was like an incredible guy, you know,

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which I'm sure he was. But that's I mean that

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that's a significance and this that's something. Uh, I take

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up a peculiar interest in the vaf sss. And as

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you know, the even the casual subscribers. I'm not I'm

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not a military guy. Obviously, I'm not like prior service

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and like I'm not I'm not a military science guy.

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not just because it's cool, which it is, and I

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don't I don't run from the fact that like gravity

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towards things just because they're cool sometimes, you know, I

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don't think we ever outgrow that if we're intellectually curious.

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of European integration. I mean, that's essential, and that was

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after NCIGE, that that was the model for how things

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were going to be organized. Okay, so these guys like

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ian Ian Kershaw and some of these other kind of

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just midway court historians are like, oh, German chauvinism and

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German in nationalism. It's like, look, nobody there were There

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weren't a million like non Germans who signed on to

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the fight in the ass because they love the German nationalism.

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Like that's not how things work, and that's just not

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how this as nine like in you know, by the

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you know, like you had the whole the entire Raizone

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debt for the Third Reich in geostrategic terms and consequently

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in cultural terms, the two things can't be extricated. What's

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to make Europe a superpower? You know, so a this

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uh this kind of like this armed like protection echelon

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and like offten shoots staff like it quite literally translates

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to like armed protection echelon or like armed like defensive echelon,

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you know of kind of like replacing or as like

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a or representing you know, kind of a vanguard formation

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against uh, the enemies of Europe, racial and otherwise you know,

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large that was where like all all the nations of

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Europe are represented, you know, and with with heraldic UH signification.

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kind of cultural like military cultural mind, so that it's

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important to you on the fact that it's just cool,

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with the vass because it's it's got an outsized importance

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in UH in the Third Reich and like the worldview

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a little bit outside of the scope, but that's that's

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that that was born to consider. We're talking about de

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Grill in history and what he represented.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, this is UH. I guess once we

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start reading this, people will get people will get the

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notion that he's looking back upon his life and he's

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looking at not only what was, but what could have been.

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should hear, So I'm gonna share it and start reading.

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All right, there we go, all right Part one, Empty

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hearts one, the flame and the ashes stop me anytime,

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Thomas to comment on anything here. I am nearly at

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the end of my life. I felt almost nothing, I

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felt almost everything, knew everything. More than anything I suffered.

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I saw dazzled the great golden fires of my youth arise.

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Their flames eliminated my illuminated my land. The crowds made

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the starry waves of their thousands of faces dance around me.

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Their fervor, their eddies existed. But did they really in

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fact exist? Wasn't all this a dream? Did I not

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dream that thirty years ago a nation called my name?

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And that on certain days that the most distant newspapers

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of the planet repeated it? Tucked away in my exiled sadness,

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I can no longer believe in my past itself? Did

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I live those times? Or not know those passions? Raise

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those oceans? I walk my terraces, I lean over my roses,

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I discern the sense Have I ever been another being

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other than this lonely dreamer who vainly clutches at memories

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frayed like mountain fogs. Wasn't all this something other than

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a hallucination. I cannot see, far away, far away, in

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faded lights, their bodies as if from a Greco painting,

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growing thinner and thinner. Did these men who have faded

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forever from the horizon know me? Did they follow me?

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Did I lead them? Did I exist in my memories?

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As in my hands. I no longer feel that fleeting wind.

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My eyes and what eyes should I have? Eyes of desperation.

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My eyes have searched the impassive sky, tried to see

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in the depths of the years, in the depths of

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the centuries. What did it mean the being that I am?

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In what way it is still the being that once

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carried my name, who was known, who was listened to,

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for whom many have lived, and for whom also many

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have died.

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Speaker 2: This being?

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Speaker 1: What this being? What does it have to do with

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the man who walks bitter endlessly alone upon a few

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meters of foreign land, rummaging through his past, losing himself

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in it, no longer believing in it, wondering if it

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is really who he who was tossed one hundred times

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in the tornadoes of an implacable destiny, or if this

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was no more than a dream So if I doubt

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my flesh, my bones, what my public action once forged,

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If I doubt the reality of my past and the

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part that I took in a few years of building

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up the history of men, what can I still believe

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of the ideals which were born in me, which burned me,

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which I projected, of the value of my convictions at

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the time, of my feelings, of what I thought of humanity,

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what I dreamed of creating for her. Each human being

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is a succession of human beings, as dissimilar from each other,

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as the passer adds, the passers by whose desperate faces

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we scrutinize in the street. At fifty, how do we

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still look like the young man of twenty, whom we

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are trying to remember, and whose survival we want at

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all costs. Even his flesh is no longer the same flesh.

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It is gone, has been remade, renewed, no more than

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a millimeter of skin is the skin of those times?

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Speaker 2: You know? For context too, It like the girl just

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mentioned that he's fifty here and thirty years past the

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war hes like in his fifties and around that Yak

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and Piper died when he was about sixty but it

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the degree to which I mean his politics aside, you know,

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it had to be very very strange beyond I mean,

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it's it's strange if anyone gets caught up in historical

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circumstances as a very young man and that kind of

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settles in a normalcy. I mean, that's strange. But particularly

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like Piper. You know, Piper went on to a prestigious job,

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like with Portia, Like you know, he was like an

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incredibly successful guy by like any metric. But he during

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like the last interview, gave the Spiegel when he kind

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of become marked man again during the kind of resurgence,

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and and I fish it's tendencies, you know. He was

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like you know, when I was you know, when I

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was in when I was in my twenties, I was, uh,

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I was leading a tank across the step against the

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Red Army, you know, and we were prepared to go

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all the way to Moscow, crush it and literally shake

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the world, you know, and then uh, you know, like

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nothing like like nothing later in life is gonna come

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close to that, and everything else is gonna seem this

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kind of like mundane. But it's also these guys felt

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like prisoners. I mean not just because of like the

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the kind of you know, the constant the constant threat,

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like a physical and spiritual of the regime that replaced

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the one that they fought on behalf of. But you know,

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everybody with hostage the Cold War at this time, and

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particularly like in Europe. And Piper made that point too,

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like when the Spiegel guy was trying to kind of

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like impeaches not you know, not it kind of impeaches

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moral credibility. Piper is like, well, you know, now we're

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that designated battleground of of World War three, Like we're

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better off now. You know. It's like basically saying like

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these distance we as Europeans live now is crushing the mundane,

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punctuated only by like the periodic terror of you know,

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a crisis that could resolve in in in the nuclear apocalypse.

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You know. It's I mean, so I think gravity of

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those things, that's it's a very strange place to be,

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you know. And yeah, in Degrell's case, you know, he

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personally he was personally decorated by Hitler. He was a

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he was a Knights crossholder, you know, he was a

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he was a hero of the Third Reich. You know,

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he wasn't uh, he wasn't just a run on the

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mill kind of war hero looking back on on his

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glory d's or whatever, you know, and to to go

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from that too in a few years, you know, kind

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of having to watch for you travel because you know,

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you might be you might you might be you might

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be assaulted and detained and find yourself, you know, indicted

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in some kangaroo courts in the Hague or Tel Aviv

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or the United States. I mean that they had to

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be almost kind of surreal, like I think about like

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those old TV shows like The Prisoner or something, you know,

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like the old BBC show or whatever. It's just it's

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a very strange way to live, and like anybody who's

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at all thoughtful or psychologically sensitive, as obviously the girl was,

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they had to really do a number on them. But

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that's that's all I want to do.

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Speaker 1: Insinuate what then about the soul and our thoughts, the

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feelings that propelled us to action, and the feelings that

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passed to us like breaths or fire through the heart.

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How many distinct men do we carry with us? Who fight,

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who contradict each other, or who even ignore each other.

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We are good and we are evil. We are both

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the objection, the objection and the dream. We are both

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tangled and extricable nets. But it is not here that

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the horror of fate laws. The atrocious thing is to

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break these nets themselves, to throw your soul overboard. The

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horrible thing is to have to say that the essential

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in our lives was caricatured, disfigured by a thousand defilements

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and a thousand denials. Who has not experienced these debacles.

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Some realize their bankruptcy with pain. Others make the observation

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with cynicism or with an arrogant smile. Of those who

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no longer listen, who are convinced that the knowledge of

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man and the superiority of the spirit consist in engaging

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in all experiences deliberately exhausting the most perverse pleasures, without

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excessive astonishment, and without regret, having found in the use

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and in the desecration of everything information, the condescension and

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indifference of an ethics of decomposition, free from any spiritual counterbalance,

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without a doubt, the world in which we live has become,

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to a great extent, the world of these amoral people,

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so sure of themselves no doubt those who would persist

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in imagining a humanity of high virtues may fancy them

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to be anachronistic beings, non evolved, glued to old fads,

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living apart from men, apart from their time, apart from fashion,

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apart from reality.

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Speaker 2: And that's the Catholic. The girl like the Catholic in

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comes out a lot, you know, like it's obvious, like

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a non Catholic National Socialist wouldn't write this way. I mean,

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there's nothing. I'm not putting shade on on on his

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tone at all, quite the contrary. But it's it's interesting

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because you know they grew the girl. The Catholic and

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the girl the National Socialists coexists very in a very

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complimentary and seamless way. And like that. The people who

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are ignorant of the topic it loved, the mouth off

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about it are always claiming like that's not possible, that

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some contradictory. But he's he's very much speaking as a

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Catholic through much of this memoir. That's all.

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Speaker 1: It was here that I arrived. I dreamed of I

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dreamed of a century of knights, strong and noble, all

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dominating hard and pure. My banners said, I feel unbalanced

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with my bundle of old dreams. I know that feelings

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like the ones I have tried to express can hardly

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be felt anymore, or even seem painful to some. But

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I have seen so much, I've suffered so much that

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one more bitter thought will not tire me beyond my ability.

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So too bad these dreams, well, yes I had them,

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These impulses, yes I carried them. This love of others, yes,

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it burned me, It consumed me. I wanted to see

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in man a heart, to love, to excite, to raise

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a soul which, even if it was half exiciated by

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the pestilence of its slavery, aspired to find a pure

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breath and sometimes only waited for a word or a

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look to emerge and to be reborn. Let us be

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straightforward to interject, to use others the right to moral

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or spiritual consideration these I do not have. I know

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this only too well. I have had my share of

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miseries alast like so many others. And even if I

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hadn't suffered them myself, I've been loaned so many miseries

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from others that I can only feel when I analyze myself,

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confusion and unfathomable sadness. Yet the spirit of the Ideal

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that throws its fire into this book has devoured me

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every day of my existence. I should, of course have

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left it to others less affected, the care and responsibility

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of returning light and song to mankind. But that fire

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was burning me down today, suffocated by a relentless spell.

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The great fire of yesteryear leaves nothing but ashes. I

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come back to it anyway, stubbornly, because these ashes evoke

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the moment of fervor in my life, the deepest impulses,

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the very spiritual basis of my action. Here they are disarrayed,

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delivered to the wind, which will quickly disperse them. These thoughts,

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these dreams, are all in disorder. I have not made

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a plan.

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Speaker 2: It is the height.

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Speaker 1: I did not sit at my table like a distinguished

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and reasonable writer. I have not written a manual of

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the Idealist, chapter by chapter, calculating everything, measuring everything, not that,

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nothing like that, what to do? The impulses of the

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soul are not graduated like the flow of a gas.

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Appliance Hope, passion, love, faith, pain, and shame dictated to me.

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The writings that I tossed about at such and such

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a time, because I felt them then with great force.

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Sometimes it was at the summit of my public action.

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Sometimes it was in the abandonment the mud and the

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cold of my distant life as a suffering soldier in

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the vastness of the Eastern Front. But the soul that

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lived these impulses followed a common thread, invisible to many.

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It was nevertheless the artery that spiritually nourished my existence. Therefore,

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these know are not so much nonsense. They record the

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ups and downs of a soul among souls, all of

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which have their ups and downs. Certainly, the spirit which

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has arrived that the stale wisdom of cynicism can dominate

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by its cold smile, can display the icy marble of

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its interior tomb and engrave on them its findings with

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an impassive pen. But fire, it has many forms. It rises, lowers,

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is reborn, starts anew. This book is fire, with the

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exaltations of fire, the excess of fire. If only they

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could have the beneficent heat, If only the souls could

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find this comfort and vigor. As we find them meditating

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in the evening near a large, almost silent wood fire,

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the waves of its powerful life penetrate, and their radiation

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and their contemplation. They offer themselves completely, They deliver themselves completely.

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The gift, the real gift, is thus annihilating until the

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last brand from me. My fire is dead, my life

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has plunged into the abyss, has been submerged by the

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black dawn that has smothered everything. But I still want

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to believe that these impulses, which animated the action of

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a man already dead in the eyes of most, though

473
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:16,559
he has the misfortune to still live for himself, will

474
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,359
still be able to join spiritually from here to there

475
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,799
in the world. Anxious hearts, I remember these words that

476
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:26,839
I had deciphered one day on a tomb of black

477
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,200
marble therein dumb in Flanders, in a church of my

478
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:35,279
lost homeland, at Seymour Tuus. Or it even dead, it burns,

479
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,960
may these pages the last fleeting fire of what I

480
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,480
was burn for a moment, warm for a moment. Souls

481
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:45,519
haunted by the passion of giving and believing, believing in

482
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,079
spite of everything, in spite of the assurances of the

483
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,200
corrupt and the cynics, despite the sad, bitter taste that

484
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:54,039
leaves us with the memory of our falls the awareness

485
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:57,039
of our misery and the immense field of moral ruins

486
00:29:57,079 --> 00:29:59,319
of a world that is certain to have no more

487
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:03,079
of salvation, which prides itself on it, and which nevertheless

488
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:07,039
must be saved, must more than ever be saved.

489
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:11,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the you know, that's the point. I'm

490
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:17,079
always drawing a parallel between crusader orders and the waff says,

491
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:23,440
that's not that's not just ex post facto romantic interpretations,

492
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,200
and it's not just a you know, a way of

493
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:31,880
superficially drunk a parallel owing to the kind of multinational character.

494
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,599
This is the like the degree to which I mean,

495
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:40,519
for better or worse, And however anybody feels about the

496
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:46,039
Third Reich and adjacent regimes, and you know, institutions like

497
00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:47,680
the vaffin As says, which were kind of like the

498
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:52,279
tie that bound like these regimes together in terms of praxis. Like,

499
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,640
these guys really did view themselves as as crusaders, and

500
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,680
they the the imperatives that they were abiding were very

501
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:07,400
much metaphysical and and uncompromisingly moral ones like not moral

502
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,160
in the sense of you know, what is morality, but

503
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:14,319
you know, owing to ah, their their world view was

504
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:20,359
populated by you know, by by values directed things. You know.

505
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,200
It was not it was it was not conventional kind

506
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:33,720
of uh, twentieth century politics. Okay. I know that some

507
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:36,200
people their rebuttal would be the well, this is a

508
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:39,720
sort of like window dressing for you know, typically crude

509
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,880
power political activity. And yeah, there's always some degree of that,

510
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,039
But these institutions don't just spontaneously develop mythologies to substantiate

511
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,960
you know, the needs of of like a war executive,

512
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,880
even even a messianic type person like get off Hitler.

513
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,640
That just doesn't happen. Okay, this is obviously something that

514
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:05,279
these men felt very deeply in. Uh, it was very

515
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:09,160
extant in their in their minds and hearts as it were,

516
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,960
and that they can't be overstated. I mean, yeah, there

517
00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:15,960
was there was a there's there's a radicalism obviously that

518
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:20,559
animated the communists to do what they did, and that

519
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,799
kind of uh, a kind of reckless indifference to what

520
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,440
the consequences would be, you know, if their revolutionary ambitions

521
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,920
fell short or whatever. But it wasn't the same thing.

522
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:34,400
You know, it the place from where it emerged in

523
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:38,279
emotional in the most primitive kind of emotional terms, you know,

524
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:44,440
might have been the same, but what it uh what

525
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,920
what what it what it's what what its intentions were

526
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,160
and ultimately what populated that kind of worldview was like

527
00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:58,039
very very different, you know. And you it's not just

528
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,720
to Grill who makes these points, you know, like I said,

529
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:04,559
like if you read what Piper wrote, I mean even

530
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,759
guys except Dietrich, who was a you know very much

531
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,799
kind of a like a like a like a rough

532
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:15,240
human Bavarian, you know, like he he talked about, you know,

533
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,079
his role as a commanding leaf standard and basically like

534
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:25,319
religious terms, you know. And that's that's some that's very authentic.

535
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,519
Like whether you believe that it's right or not, that's

536
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:30,480
not what we're talking about. Like we're talking about what animated,

537
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:34,440
you know, the men who actually took up our arms

538
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,000
in the service of these institutions, and and the and

539
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:43,400
the idea that uh, these institutions you know, created to serve.

540
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: All right onward to the agony of the century. Love

541
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:53,720
Why why Love? Human beings have barricaded themselves behind their

542
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:58,000
selfishness and pleasure. Virtue has abandoned its natural song. We

543
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,680
laugh at our old rights, soul suffocate. Perhaps they were

544
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,240
already liquidated, the evidence hidden behind the decorum of habits

545
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:09,239
and conventions. Happiness has become for man and for a

546
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,480
woman a heap of fruit, which they devour in a hurry,

547
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,800
or in which they plant their teeth without more and

548
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:21,440
reject them pell mell damage, bodies, damaged souls, quick exhausted

549
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,280
by the fleeting frenzy, already looking for other, more exciting

550
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,960
or more perverse fruits. The air is charged with all

551
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:33,679
moral and spiritual denials. The lungs drawn in vain for

552
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,239
a breath of fresh air, the freshness of a spray

553
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,159
thrown close to the sands. Man's interior gardens have lost

554
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,239
their colors and their bird song. Love itself is no

555
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,880
longer given. And besides, what is love, the most beautiful

556
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,159
word in the world, Reduced to the rank of physical pastime,

557
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:55,639
instinctive and interchangeable. The only happiness lays in the gift,

558
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,239
the only happiness that consoles, that intoxicates, like the full

559
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,159
fragrance of the fruits and leaves of autumn, happiness only

560
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,639
exists in the gift, the complete gift. His selflessness gives

561
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,639
him the flavor of eternity. He returns to the lips

562
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:14,639
of the soul with an intangible sweetness. Give to have

563
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,800
seen eyes that shine, to have been understood, touched, fulfilled.

564
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,840
Give feel the grand happy tablecloths floating like dancing water

565
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,079
on a heart suddenly adorned with sun. Give to have

566
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:30,559
reached the secret fibers that weave the mystery of sensibility,

567
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,519
the mysteries of sensibility. Give to have this gesture which

568
00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:38,320
unburdens the hand, which relieves its carnal weight, which exhausts

569
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,840
the need to be loved. Then the heart becomes as

570
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,000
light as pollen. Its pleasure rises like the song of

571
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,760
the nightingale, a burning voice that lights the darkness. We

572
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,440
pour forth with joy. We have emptied this power of happiness,

573
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,320
which was not to be partaken self fishly, which encumbered us,

574
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,840
which we had to pour out in the same way

575
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,920
that the earth cannot endlessly contain the life of springs

576
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:07,639
and lets them burst under crocuses and daffodils, or in

577
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,800
the fault of the green rocks. But today, in a

578
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,880
thousand withered wells, the springs of life have ceased to flow.

579
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,039
The earth no longer pours out this gift which swelled it.

580
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:24,360
She holds back her happiness. She chokes. The agony of

581
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,159
our time lies here. The century does not fail for

582
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,639
lack of material support. Never before has the universe been

583
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,719
so rich, filled with so much comfort, helped by such

584
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,440
productive industrialization. Never have there been so many resources or

585
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:41,159
goods offered. It is the heart of a man, and

586
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,320
this alone, which is bankrupt. It is by a lack

587
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,719
of love. It is by a failure of believing and

588
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,159
of giving oneself that the world has overwhelmed itself with

589
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,760
murderous blows. The century wanted to be no more than

590
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,039
the century of appetites. This century wanted to be no

591
00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:01,119
more than the century of appetites. Its pride was wasted.

592
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,599
It believed in miracles, stocks, and ingots over which it

593
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:07,719
would be the master. It believed just as much in

594
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,159
the victory of carnal passions projected beyond all limits, in

595
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,440
the liberation of the most diverse forms of enjoyment, constantly multiplied,

596
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,119
always more degraded and degrading, endowed with a technique which

597
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,840
is after all, generally only an accumulation, without great imagination,

598
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,719
of rather impoverished vices, of emptied beings.

599
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: Even people who are critical of, you know, the fascist

600
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:39,599
regimes and of the Third Reich. You know, people like

601
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:44,960
Julius Evil and to some degree Rene Gillone. You know,

602
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,719
they acknowledge that most significant about these movements was that

603
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:57,559
there was an ambition for something transcendental that was fundamentally

604
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:58,360
lacking in.

605
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: Not just.

606
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: Opposing ideologies, but in adjacent ones too. And I mean everybody,

607
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:13,000
everybody who's I mean everybody is at all practically minded,

608
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:15,800
realizes there's limitations to politics. I mean, as there should be.

609
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,199
You know, you don't you don't swap out religious piety

610
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,119
for politics, and you don't you don't decide that you know,

611
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:25,559
you know, you know, you don't. You don't decide that

612
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,960
you know, there's a political path, the cultural renewal or

613
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,400
something on its own terms. But there is not an

614
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,280
accident that there's not really you know, you don't you

615
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,840
don't find you don't find communists, and you don't find

616
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,039
guys who uh you know, you don't find tories in

617
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:45,800
the UK from the epoch core like writing and talking

618
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,239
this way. You know the fact is there's like mid

619
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,840
Hampson said, Hampson, Uh, you know, he got the Nobel

620
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,360
Price for literature and then he essentially like eulogized Adolf Hitler,

621
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,360
and they made a bunch of people really mad. But

622
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:06,039
he you know, Selene made the same point, you know

623
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:11,599
that there was a that this was, you know, Europe's

624
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:19,480
historical moment to try and redeem something of of cultural

625
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:26,679
life by way of political mechanisms. Like however, however is

626
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:29,599
a guide that may have been in terms of you

627
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:35,400
know what an improper instrument instrumentality being employed to that effect.

628
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,159
But that's why, that's why, that's why it's laughable when

629
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:41,519
people are like, oh, you know, the right is uneducated.

630
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:44,000
It's like what what what what what do educated people

631
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:46,800
talk about? You know, like labor and capital paradigms and

632
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:50,480
like what what people are doing with their genitals? I mean,

633
00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:53,360
that's that's what educated people are into. Like it's i mean,

634
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,000
it's laughable. But you know, to grow obviously, to Gull

635
00:39:57,079 --> 00:39:58,960
is an outlier in the sense of, you know, he

636
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,159
was a he was a remarkable guy, both you know,

637
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,480
as a as a as an infantry commander as well

638
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:10,719
as like a man of letters and stuff. But it

639
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,639
wasn't it wasn't remarkable that you know, these are the

640
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,320
kind of like this is the kind of like passion

641
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,880
that animated his commitments, you know, and that's important to consider.

642
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: That's all from his conquests, or more precisely, from his mistakes,

643
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,280
than from his falls. Man acquired pleasures that seemed supremely

644
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,920
exciting at first, and which were in fact only poison,

645
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,800
filth and falsehood. For this falsehood, this filth, and this poison, however,

646
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:44,440
the man and the woman had abandoned, had desecrated through

647
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:48,280
their dreams and their devastated bodies, Inner Joy, True Joy,

648
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:52,079
the great son of true Joy. The puffs of pleasure

649
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:56,880
from possessions matter of flesh, must, being illusory and compounding

650
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,960
in their flaws, sooner or later vanish. What remains is

651
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:04,719
only the passion for taking, seizing in bouts of anger

652
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:08,320
that set them against all obstacles and against the stale

653
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,119
orders of decay, Clinging to their ransacked and rotten lives,

654
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,159
vain emptied, their hands dangling, they do not even see

655
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:19,599
the moment approaching when the artificial work of their time

656
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:22,960
will collapse. It will collapse because it is contrary to

657
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,519
the very laws of the heart. And let's say the

658
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:29,239
big word, to the laws of God. He alone, so

659
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,920
strong that we laughed at him, gave the world its

660
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,119
balance directed the passions open to us. The gates of

661
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,880
complete giving and authentic love gave a meaning to our days.

662
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,199
Whatever our happiness and our misfortunes. We can gather all

663
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,840
the conferences of the world, gathered by herds, the heads

664
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,440
of state, the economic experts, and the champions of all

665
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,559
the techniques. They will weigh, they will decree, but essentially

666
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,440
they will fail because they will ignore the obvious. The

667
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:02,119
disease of the century is not in the body. The

668
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:04,840
body is sick because the soul is sick. This is

669
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,159
what is essential, whatever it may take to cure the

670
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,000
real the great revolution to be made. Is there spiritual

671
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,800
revolution or the ruin of the century? The salvation of

672
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,199
the world is in the will of souls who believe

673
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,639
Section three. Here is the right path. Those who hesitate

674
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:25,119
in the face of struggle are those whose souls are numb.

675
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,559
A grand ideal always gives you the strength to overcome

676
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:31,639
the body, to suffer from fatigue, from hunger, from cold.

677
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:36,239
What matters sleepless nights, overwhelming toil, stress, or poverty. The

678
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,079
main thing is to have at the bottom of your

679
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:41,599
heart a great force which warms and which pushes forward,

680
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,039
which revives the loose nerves, which makes the tired blood

681
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:47,880
beat with great blows, which puts in the eyes that

682
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:52,559
fire which burns and which conquers. Then suffering is of

683
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:55,679
no consequence. The pain itself becomes joy because it is

684
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,119
a means of enhancing one's legacy, of purifying one's sacrifice. Yes,

685
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,000
ease sedates the ideal. Nothing writes it better than the

686
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:09,079
whip of hard life. It makes us understand the depth

687
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:12,000
of the duties to be assumed, the mission of which

688
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:16,800
we must be worthy. The rest does not count, health

689
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,079
does not matter. We are not on earth to eat

690
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:21,800
on time, to sleep on time, to live one hundred

691
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,480
years or more. All this is vain and foolish. Only

692
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:28,960
one thing matters, having a useful life, sharpening your soul,

693
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,320
improving it at all times, monitoring your weaknesses and exalting

694
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,679
your impulses, serving others, throwing happiness and tenderness around you,

695
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:41,360
giving your arm to your neighbor to rise all to rise,

696
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,360
all by helping each other. Once these duties are accomplished,

697
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:47,280
what does it mean to die at the age of

698
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,639
thirty or one hundred years? To feel the fever throbbing

699
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:53,519
at the hours when the human beast cries out at

700
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:57,480
the end of its power. Let him get up again.

701
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,280
Despite everything, the ideal appears to give its strength only

702
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,039
at the breaking point. Only the soul counts and must

703
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:11,760
dominate everything else. Short or long, life is only redeemed

704
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,880
if we have no cause for shame at the moment

705
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,519
we have to give it back, when the sweetness of

706
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:19,800
the days calls to us, and the joy of loving,

707
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:22,480
and the beauty of a face, a perfect body, a

708
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:25,280
light sky, and the call of distant races. When we

709
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,079
are close to giving in to the lips, to the colors,

710
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,440
to this light, to the number, to the numbness of

711
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:34,360
the relaxed hours, let us tighten in our hearts all

712
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,960
these dreams on the verge of the golden escape. The

713
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:41,199
true escape is to quit our dear is to quit

714
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,480
our dear, sensitive prey, at the very moment when the

715
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:49,920
sweet scent invites our bodies to fail. At this hour,

716
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,840
when you must abandon softness and place love above desire,

717
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,880
when everything is painful to the point of cruelty, a

718
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,199
sacrifice really begins to be whole, to be pure, then

719
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,280
we have surpassed ourselves. We are finally giving something before

720
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,360
we looked only to ourselves, and the concern for pride

721
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,280
and selfish glory corrupted what flows out from our souls,

722
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:15,280
and it was used instead of given. One gives for

723
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,079
good without calculation, because all is given and nothing remains

724
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,920
of the giver only when one kills the love of

725
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,119
the self. This does not come easily, because the human

726
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:28,320
beast is reluctant. We understand so poorly what can be

727
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,360
learned from bitterness. It is sweet to dream of an

728
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,679
ideal and to build it in your mind. Still, to

729
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,360
tell the truth, this is precious little. What is an ideal?

730
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,800
If it is just a game or a sweet dream,

731
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,880
You have to build it after all. In reality, each

732
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:48,039
stone must be torn from our comfort, from our joys,

733
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:52,039
from our rest, from our heart. When despite everything, the

734
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,960
building rises over the years. When you do not stop

735
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:58,039
along the way, when faced with heavier and heavier stones

736
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,840
to be placed, you continue. Only then does the ideal

737
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,239
begin to live. It lives only to the extent that

738
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,239
we died to ourselves. What a drama deep down that

739
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:09,159
righteous life.

740
00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:14,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's heavy stuff, and it's also just more generally

741
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:22,119
not simply related to the epoch and from which you

742
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:27,360
know de Greel emerged in things that's Demeestra makes those

743
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:32,679
points too, that there's not there's not this like there's

744
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,920
there's not this you know, intractable tension between you know,

745
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:41,280
men of action and and people prone to asceticism. You know,

746
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:47,039
like the latter are the ones who who bleed quite

747
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:50,719
literally to bring those things into reality, you know. And

748
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,760
I mean it's I mean plus two. I mean that

749
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,360
that those two functions were literally combined, you know, in

750
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,239
the nightly orders that serve the Roman Church. You know,

751
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,840
I mean, I I realize that can be overstated too,

752
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,440
because it's not that was a discreete epoch as well.

753
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:09,719
You know, it's not like the final statement on soldiering

754
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,199
or on or on piety or whatever. But you know,

755
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,679
this idea, that this idea that these things are fundamentally

756
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,639
at loggerheads and like irreconcilable. It's this nonsense, you know,

757
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,159
And that's not people people draw upon them like the

758
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,880
birth of tragedy and the genealogy of moral as well

759
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,800
as like beyond good and evil like Niche, it's like

760
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,119
trying to flesh out their conceptual biases. That's not what

761
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:41,800
Niche is talking about. It's far more conceptually nuanced, and

762
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:46,599
his notion is basically that these it's a self defeating

763
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:52,280
enterprise because salvation comes in the form of repudiating that

764
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,360
which it sets out to confirm. I mean, that's like

765
00:47:54,360 --> 00:48:00,159
outside the scope of what we're discussing now, but I people, uh,

766
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,800
people have this like very very like literalist and like

767
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,559
rigid idea of you know, oh, like the the soldier

768
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:10,519
or the partisan is at odds with you know, the

769
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:13,519
priest or the or the religious person. Like that's not

770
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,519
the case at all. Like not only is that not

771
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:19,159
the case, but they're they're essentially one and the same.

772
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,519
And unless you understand that, you're not going to understand,

773
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,079
you know, like how how politics as we know it

774
00:48:26,119 --> 00:48:29,039
developed in the West that we're talking about if by

775
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:31,559
politics we mean you know, not I'm not talking about

776
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:33,360
the day to day business about like this the village

777
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,639
council figures out, you know, how to keep the water running,

778
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:41,239
like I'm talking about you know, I'm talking about these

779
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:47,079
how conceptual horizons develop, you know, and how these things

780
00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:53,639
come to you know, how these things come to embody

781
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,320
like prime symbols of of cultural reference and things, you know,

782
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,360
And that's and in that regard, you know, the the

783
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,480
Third Reich and the s S and the various fascist

784
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:13,159
movements and and these uh, these difficult that you know,

785
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,440
categorized movements of the Iron Guard. Like on the one hand,

786
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,000
there was not a lot of precedent for that, because

787
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,280
the stroke conditions that created those tendencies hadn't existed before.

788
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,400
But at the same time, the like the the underlying

789
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:33,400
kind of impulse that gave Riseley's movements like within the

790
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:36,519
minds of UH or the men who created them, Like,

791
00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:41,360
that's something that that that's something that's not that that's

792
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,920
something that's well well known to the Indo European mind.

793
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,239
And I'd argue it's so ancient as to be primordial.

794
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,039
You know. Yeah, that's that's heavy stuff.

795
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: Excellent. Yeah, all right, we're gonna start getting into some

796
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,880
heavy stuff here, because it's gonna start getting real personal.

797
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:58,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

798
00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:02,559
Speaker 1: Part two, whilst Springs of Life the Land of our Birth.

799
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,719
Part four. As men, we belong always to a people,

800
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,400
a land, a history. We may not know it, we

801
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,480
can try to forget it, but evens eternally return us

802
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:16,679
to these sources of life. They bring us back first

803
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,119
to the men of our blood shameful or bright. Family

804
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:23,880
binds us together ever tighter and firmer with time. It

805
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,599
can even be suffocating. We never get rid of it.

806
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,280
Where our blood is concerned, we are bound to it.

807
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,639
Blood comes always before reason. We are one with these ties,

808
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,000
as if our veins were only one organism and the

809
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:41,000
family had only one heart, a heart that pumps the

810
00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:43,599
same blood in each of us and reminds us of

811
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:47,559
our vital hearth. The same is true of our homeland.

812
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,280
We cannot escape it. The sight of a yellowed print

813
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,639
of our cathedrals, the memory of the smell of the dunes,

814
00:50:55,079 --> 00:50:57,639
or the gray hue of our hillsides, of the curve

815
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,199
of our rivers, brings up to our throat a love

816
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,559
that stifles us, that makes our voices hoarse. The country's

817
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,280
past is embodied, is embedded in the depth of our

818
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:14,199
consciousness and our sensibilities. Everything about us is survival, rebirth,

819
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:18,440
even if unconsciously. The past of a country is reborn

820
00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:22,199
in each generation, as spring returns, always in new sprout.

821
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:27,239
We may be unburdened traverse the world, lose our mind,

822
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:31,280
the native soil still sends into our hearts an essence

823
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:35,360
that we do not create and that dominates us. All

824
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,360
that it takes is the voice of a radio station

825
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:40,960
picked up in a distant country, brought by imprecise waves,

826
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:46,159
so that memories, ties, and laws emerge again, real water marks,

827
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:54,039
indestructibly embedded in the fabric of our tormented days. Part five,

828
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,039
Hearth and Stone. You must have one wandered over the

829
00:51:58,119 --> 00:52:01,000
most distant seas, known the red knights of the tropics,

830
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:04,519
the cane fires, the songs are the negroes, the deserts,

831
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:08,039
with their pink sands, their leafless shrubs, the skeletons of

832
00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:11,320
horses bleached by the winds. You must have climbed frozen

833
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,519
lakes and hot snow, picked mimosa flowers from the ruins

834
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:17,920
of carthage, grapefruits in Havana, a blade of grass near

835
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,480
the fluted pillars of the acropolis. To fully love your homeland,

836
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,760
that which we first saw with the only lucid eyes

837
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,440
in the world, the eyes of a child, it is

838
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:32,639
necessary to have known other journeys with furniture and clothes, books, tables,

839
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,800
the simple material goods. It is necessary to have bend

840
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,280
this nomad of the anonymous apartments, where one sits as

841
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,119
one sits in a train to know the passion and

842
00:52:42,199 --> 00:52:46,320
the nostalgia. First of the first of all landscapes, of

843
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,519
this place, in the heart that is home, we can

844
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:53,280
speak without regret of the great joys of foreign lands.

845
00:52:53,639 --> 00:52:57,320
They still gild our eyes the days. The day rises

846
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,719
yellow and silver on the palm trees which skirt the

847
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,760
Sea of the Antilles, Clouds of fog in the olive

848
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,920
trees of the Delphi Valley, fishermen rowing in the clear

849
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,840
blue knights of the Cyclades, the palm grove streaked with

850
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:15,400
red sun near the red walls of the Marrakesh. But

851
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:18,480
the memory of wandering journeys in the prisons of our

852
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:23,480
solace lodging weighs us down and suffocates us. What remains

853
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:28,519
in our life of these impersonal relays. The walls where

854
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:32,360
we heartlessly hung and removed, the paintings, the apartment next

855
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,840
door where you were surveilled, the mingled chatter of telephones,

856
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,679
the staircase where we met without knowing each other, the

857
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,800
cell car of the elevator with his double bars. We

858
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,320
look at this decora of life and death with dull eyes,

859
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,280
charged with veritable despair. What do these partitions tell us?

860
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,800
The kitchen opened to a horrible courtyard a few meters long,

861
00:53:56,159 --> 00:54:01,280
without an unexpected nook, without a quirk, with that barren

862
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,760
of natural foliage, without a cozy nest. What's say these

863
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,039
beds and furniture, always awkward and embarrassed, as if they

864
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:12,960
feel out of place, poor, unhappy, vaguely nomadic. Even furniture

865
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,079
has a soul. The old sideboard that clutters the corridor,

866
00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:20,440
the clockcase that no longer resonates, so as not to

867
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:24,679
annoy anyone once lived, once knew a real house had

868
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,599
for one hundred years, two hundred years, their place, their touch,

869
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,400
their scent, poor sideboard and poor clock, far from the

870
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,840
polished parquet, from the smell of lavender, the worn and

871
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,639
water stained staircase, the conversation all about it, the salute

872
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:45,159
of the sun entering suddenly through an open door. We

873
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,239
alienated moderns, dragged from apartment to apartment in soulas cities

874
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:51,880
feel a little more torn from our hearts each time

875
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,239
we have to cross a new threshold. Light up, the

876
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,920
sterile white corridors. Get used to these handles, these shutters,

877
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,119
this door that does not hold, this gas stove that

878
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:04,239
flares up too quickly, these buses that pass by with

879
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,519
awful horns that crush the soul. We are silent, but

880
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:17,440
we forget everything. I'm sorry, that's very much hideger Yeah, yeah,

881
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,800
and man like the old sideboard and the big clock,

882
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:27,519
motionless looks and sees the land of our birth returns

883
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:30,199
to life in our memories. Here it is a little

884
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,679
foliage lights up the facade, two blue stone steps, a

885
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,679
large vine encumbered balcony in the gardens. Everything is in

886
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,719
its place, Everything has a meaning, a smell of form.

887
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:44,119
We go to the cupboard, the cupboard, that beautiful, full

888
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,760
serious word, because it holds our, nourishing bread, so familiar

889
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,000
we can navigate it with our eyes closed. This corner

890
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:55,599
smells the tobacco. That one the cat who always purred

891
00:55:55,639 --> 00:55:58,880
in the warmest place. That noise is Father rising from

892
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,159
the office chair. The halting footstep is Mother who in

893
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,360
the dining room waters are flowers. These rooms are not

894
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,800
merely places to stop. This one is the room above

895
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,760
the living room. This one is the room above the office.

896
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:15,039
This one is the room of the little ones, even

897
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:19,400
when they have become men with heavy thoughts. Each of

898
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,079
these rooms has its history, has known its vigils, its maladies.

899
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:26,400
We left it one morning, carrying a darling body in

900
00:56:26,519 --> 00:56:30,159
our arms. Ah the horror of our children being born

901
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,920
or dying in anonymous apartments, surrounded by living furnishings since departed,

902
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,239
where other nomads have, in their turn, resumed their awkward

903
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,199
life without soulful memories, not even daring to remember. So

904
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,639
out of place are they. House of yesteryear, with your

905
00:56:47,679 --> 00:56:52,360
poor draperies, your occasional bad taste. This ball on the railing,

906
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,400
These photos of children in a cue Lulu, the grand piano,

907
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,280
the blackfire place, the tin bathtub where people wash one

908
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,280
after the other. These steps that we still scale twenty

909
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,280
years later in memories, The breadths that we hear again

910
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,920
passing close to us, The face of the mother who

911
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,519
appears first in the distance, then right there before our eyes,

912
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,519
almost inscrutable. We feel like children desiring again her soft caress.

913
00:57:19,239 --> 00:57:23,320
Calls of immense tenderness rise with distant sense of flowers

914
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,559
and foliage, Songs of water pass at the bottom of

915
00:57:26,639 --> 00:57:32,519
the garden, the soft sunshine filling our entire world. Everything

916
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:35,920
we are comes from that time. Unfortunate our children, who

917
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,159
have never had a house of their own, and who

918
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:41,679
do not collect these memories from which our life flows.

919
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,119
It is the home that forms us into who we are.

920
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,840
How can we have a soul in a faceless house,

921
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,159
one that has changed like a carnival mask. Life is

922
00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:54,280
fixed on hearth and stone. The rest flows away like

923
00:57:54,559 --> 00:58:01,159
broken wood floating on a winter stream. Home our tender fortress.

924
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,880
It takes on a unique face little by little, built

925
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,360
over time, through common hardships and the birth of children.

926
00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:12,199
The walls hold love and dreams. It's furnishings, beautiful or ugly,

927
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:17,000
are our companions and witnesses. A sweetness rises slowly from

928
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:20,599
the souls within. It becomes a place of contemplation, rest,

929
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,800
and certainty, rather than a brief stop on the journey

930
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:30,039
of our existence. Softness, balance points of reference, testimony, self examination.

931
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:33,840
Without mother and home, tell me, my soul, where would

932
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:34,119
we be.

933
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:36,719
Speaker 2: This him?

934
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: You always talking about living historically. It's kind of hard

935
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,599
to live historically when you live a nomadic life.

936
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: No exactly. And it also, you know, epigenetic memory is

937
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,320
you know, what does it crude during people's lifetime times.

938
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,559
There's no reason to believe that that's not passed on

939
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:07,840
at the biological level. In addition to you know, simple

940
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:13,159
cultural learning and things. You know, when we talk about

941
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:15,599
a way of life or quite this is quite literally

942
00:59:15,679 --> 00:59:19,280
what we're talking about, you know, and that kind of

943
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:27,360
like linear natal experience of of the culture. So not

944
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:33,320
only is it disruptive, obviously, you know, if if there

945
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,840
if there's literally no rootedness to anybody's life, and you know,

946
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:42,639
not only every generation who you know, does uh does

947
00:59:42,719 --> 00:59:46,639
the does does the family like up and and moves

948
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,519
you know, to totally strange environs, but even like within

949
00:59:49,639 --> 00:59:54,360
people's lives like in the present epoch, it's it's supposed

950
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,880
to be normal for you to just you know, radically

951
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,280
alter your surroundings and your pattern of life if in

952
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,480
day to day terms, you know, multiple times, And that's

953
01:00:02,639 --> 01:00:06,320
that's crazy. I mean obviously that doesn't lend itself to

954
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,960
psychic or spiritual stability, but it also it makes it

955
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:16,320
basically impossible to sustain any kind of any kind of

956
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,679
cultural learning over time. But I mean, that's that's that's

957
01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:22,360
that's the point, you know, And the what consciousness is

958
01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:26,800
that's a huge question. But whether it is, you know,

959
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,519
whether he is the Heidegger remains relevant is because he

960
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:33,119
was finding like fundamentally concerned with the question of consciousness.

961
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:42,239
You know, we we can't talk about culture as a

962
01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:48,840
as an intergenerational experience without discussing consciousness and the and

963
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,239
the degree to which it is actually like literally transmitted. Okay,

964
01:00:54,599 --> 01:00:59,400
and that's a controversial subject, but nobody would deny that

965
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:04,320
basic hostulate and to deliberately aim to eradicate that process,

966
01:01:05,159 --> 01:01:09,480
you're basically murdering cultures. Like you're basically destroying people's ability,

967
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:11,559
you know, not just within their own discreete like individual

968
01:01:11,679 --> 01:01:17,039
life to like, you know, drive meaning and to participate

969
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,559
historically like within their life. You're essentially like removing their

970
01:01:20,639 --> 01:01:26,159
ability to the constitute you know, a component of of

971
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:31,400
of of an enduring cultural enterprise of phenomenon. And that's

972
01:01:32,159 --> 01:01:36,000
that's that that that's an incredibly evil thing to do,

973
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:42,719
you know, and I think people detect that, even if

974
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:48,639
they don't have the knowledge base or the sort of

975
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:57,920
conceptual signifiers to coherently identify what's underway. I believe that

976
01:01:58,519 --> 01:02:01,000
it's one of the reasons why so many people are

977
01:02:02,119 --> 01:02:08,440
in comparative terms, revolting against you know, the the global regime,

978
01:02:08,519 --> 01:02:12,239
because they're realizing what it's trying to do to them.

979
01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:14,440
I mean not just them personally, but like what it's

980
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,239
trying to do to people and and and kind of

981
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:22,519
retool the human condition. It is something that you know,

982
01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:27,400
basically doesn't doesn't just render individual lives meaningless, but you know,

983
01:02:27,519 --> 01:02:33,599
like murders cultures, which means that you know, it's basically

984
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,280
basically erasing people's entire peoples from history as if they

985
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:44,119
never existed. That's like, that's like committing homicide times a million.

986
01:02:44,599 --> 01:02:49,960
But that's probably been outside the scope. But i it's

987
01:02:50,119 --> 01:02:55,880
fundamental to understand that what I just described to understand

988
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,320
where Degreel is coming from. I mean, that's the core

989
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:04,239
of what national socialism was aiming to address, as well

990
01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:08,480
as you know, the rectist movement that he found himself

991
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,440
at the helm of, as well as any number of

992
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:18,519
other movements that constituted the resistance to the you know,

993
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:23,000
to the capitalist Bolshevik paradigm.

994
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,239
Speaker 1: Part six, The breath of Life. Men can debase themselves,

995
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,039
they can live in increasingly frenetic agitation, as millions of

996
01:03:34,119 --> 01:03:39,760
mad men engorged themselves. Yet the nobility of motherhood preserves, preserves,

997
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:45,480
among thousands of natural and vibrant hearts, its own pale radiance. Today,

998
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:48,320
the maternal essence moves just as it did in the

999
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,480
days when the first women felt their bodies stirred by

1000
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:55,880
its indescribable thrills. From that hour, women are no longer

1001
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,480
the same yesterday They were hurried, their eyes clear, their

1002
01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:04,239
souls empty, their lips distracted. The life born in them,

1003
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,519
like a hidden flowering, suddenly gives them gravity, confidence, a

1004
01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:12,599
great and proud force, the certainty of creating, of giving,

1005
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,039
and the emotional charm of the living mystery that will

1006
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:20,360
one day be borne Through their pain. They remain mirthful,

1007
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:24,000
but their gaze becomes deeper. They carry within them a

1008
01:04:24,159 --> 01:04:28,000
treasure whose pulses intimately link to their own, Their vigor,

1009
01:04:28,159 --> 01:04:33,599
their melancholy, This great ideal, sometimes undeclared, which lifts or

1010
01:04:33,719 --> 01:04:37,920
torments them. Thoughts and regrets, joys and desires become one

1011
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,599
with its hidden life, ever present for the one who

1012
01:04:40,679 --> 01:04:43,840
gives it blood gives its blood and soul. In this

1013
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,079
perfect communion of flesh and heart, they are brave and weary,

1014
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,079
tired of the overburdened body of their youth, bent like

1015
01:04:52,199 --> 01:04:56,639
branches laden heavy with fruit, weary of sun and wind,

1016
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,920
yet still valiant, knowing what their knowing, what renewal their

1017
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,159
bodies now tenderly contain in this flesh that their most

1018
01:05:05,239 --> 01:05:09,239
delicate tremors shape. They know that this flower soul, barely

1019
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,679
open in the night, will bloom tomorrow. The innocent heart,

1020
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,400
which they cover like the cover, like the night sky,

1021
01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:19,679
is filled with sweetness and peace of the stars and

1022
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:24,360
the silence among the clamorous world. They carry this glimmering night.

1023
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,920
Their dreamy eyes contemplate these great moonlit landscapes, where a

1024
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,719
world known only to them lies dormant, powerful, and immense.

1025
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,639
They see blue mountains, black and smooth waters, enchanted skies

1026
01:05:37,639 --> 01:05:40,519
studded with fires, set in the jet black of evening,

1027
01:05:40,679 --> 01:05:46,480
like ethereal gems. They advance under these nocturnal lights, the

1028
01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:50,320
heart taught but unsure. No one walks beside them. The

1029
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,239
universe looks elsewhere. They alone watch, They alone have the

1030
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,400
eyes to see it. They go on, body heavy, soul,

1031
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:00,199
tents and elevated, as if drawn by the greatness of

1032
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,280
this secret night. These months when the flesh blossoms are

1033
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,079
their private springtime, when only the shadow, the shadows, and

1034
01:06:08,159 --> 01:06:10,679
the scents, the colors and the lights reach their great

1035
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,400
love stretched out with arms open to life, like an

1036
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:18,280
orchard of the heart. They will experience the birth of

1037
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:22,320
this new life sundered from the great dream. Then are

1038
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,880
faced with constant efforts in the service of these bodies

1039
01:06:26,039 --> 01:06:30,599
and these souls which enchant them and which frighten them. Royalty,

1040
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:35,199
trembling and radiant. What will be reborn in these hearts?

1041
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,480
Will they keep the song and purity of mountain waters?

1042
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:42,280
Will these naive eyes ever make you cry? Will this

1043
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,800
little curly head, the color of the sun and the

1044
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,360
stone wall carry good and clear thoughts the Mother's dream

1045
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,199
like fiery sword lilies. It is best not to fear

1046
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,199
too much to show the straight course, but to leave

1047
01:06:55,239 --> 01:06:58,400
it lined with greenery and woodlands, and to let them

1048
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,800
travel pure and bright the earth and past the earthen

1049
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,960
path of the horizon. The Mother will put in the

1050
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,159
hearts of the little ones once again, only what she

1051
01:07:09,239 --> 01:07:12,639
will have nourished herself. Their soul will contain what hers

1052
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,119
will have contained. The images of her heart will trace

1053
01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:19,760
great reflections on them, like shadows advancing in the fields

1054
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,719
under the white clouds of the great summer sky. She

1055
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,360
can only bear their gaze if her soul is as

1056
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,800
clear as theirs. All that is not flesh and pure

1057
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,079
astonishes children and leaves a mark on their hearts. They

1058
01:07:33,079 --> 01:07:36,800
will not later have strength and renunciation, wisdom and simplicity,

1059
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,760
virtue and enjoy unless their spiritual nourishment is as pure

1060
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:45,000
as mother's milk. The faces of mothers are noble, supremely clear,

1061
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,119
rejuvenated by the presence of wilfully innocent lives, even though

1062
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:52,760
a thousand even through a thousand days of hardship, women

1063
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,199
are greatly blessed by the body that trembles, turn towards

1064
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,119
the inner dream, and which dwells the grand secret of

1065
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:06,920
the breath of life. Part seven, the task of happiness.

1066
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,960
The more we walk among false smiles, greedy or unclean eyes,

1067
01:08:12,119 --> 01:08:15,840
grasping hands, withered bodies, the more we are disappointed by

1068
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:20,359
the mediocrity of existence. We quickly realize that only the

1069
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,840
joys put in our hearts when we were young remained

1070
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,520
solid and eternal. It is in youth that we are

1071
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,319
made happy or unhappy forever.

1072
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 2: If we had a.

1073
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,079
Speaker 1: Calm childhood, soft as a big golden sky, if we

1074
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:34,399
learned to love and to give of ourselves, if we

1075
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,119
enjoyed when we were very young, the enchantment that the

1076
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:42,279
sky and the light gave us at all times, nature

1077
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:45,159
always within our reach and always changing. If we were

1078
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:48,239
made with a simple heart, naive as the morning, human

1079
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,680
sensitive good linked to real and natural affections, then life

1080
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,600
will remain for us until the end of our troubled days.

1081
01:08:56,039 --> 01:08:59,520
Like the sky are rayed powerful and clear over even

1082
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:04,720
the most treacherous roads. There is a task to happiness.

1083
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:09,600
We either develop it or suffocate it. If we train

1084
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,640
children simply in deep but elementary joys, they will advance

1085
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,600
in life by keeping in their eyes the light of

1086
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:20,760
their inner life, balanced, persevering. But if we ruin their childhood,

1087
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:23,560
if they have seen too much or heard too much,

1088
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,319
if they have caught, if they have been caught in

1089
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:30,279
a whirlwind, if years of calm, tenderness have not strengthened

1090
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:33,239
in them the tender happiness of their innocence, then their

1091
01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:37,560
life will be what their childhood was, witnessing disorder. They

1092
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,680
will become disordered, having never been made steady in their tastes,

1093
01:09:42,119 --> 01:09:44,960
their feelings, their thoughts. They will be at the mercy

1094
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,279
of the winds, possessing only illusory joys that will burn them,

1095
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:54,279
and immensurate and emiserate them at the whims of others.

1096
01:09:55,159 --> 01:09:59,359
It becomes far more difficult to change. Later, a hardened

1097
01:09:59,359 --> 01:10:03,079
tree cannot straightened. One can at most clear the foliage

1098
01:10:03,119 --> 01:10:06,119
and cut back branches. But when it was young, full

1099
01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:08,760
of sap, we could have straightened it with an agile

1100
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:13,439
finger guided it helped it to flourish. It is at

1101
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,760
a time when children simply seem to be playing, watching,

1102
01:10:17,039 --> 01:10:20,800
simply observing a sparrow or a lark, spelling words and

1103
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,640
giving kisses that they photograph in their hearts and their imagination.

1104
01:10:25,159 --> 01:10:28,520
Exactly that which we give them life is just the

1105
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,319
development of this photograph, of this photography, the acids of

1106
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,199
existence will imprint on them the images beautiful and powerful

1107
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,359
or troubled and sad, which we have offered to their

1108
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,359
curious little eyes, to their clear hearts, like sheets of

1109
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:46,199
shiny paper. What we deprive them of by our pride

1110
01:10:46,399 --> 01:10:49,880
or our agitation, or a last, by our passions, will

1111
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,119
be cruelly repaid to us. And seeing them unstable, dissatisfied,

1112
01:10:54,359 --> 01:10:59,000
the soul weakened and ravaged by our own fault. You

1113
01:10:59,079 --> 01:11:02,720
got anything on that, No, I.

1114
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 2: Mean nothing, I think anything I'd add as addendum would

1115
01:11:07,319 --> 01:11:11,000
kind of take away from what I suggested a moment ago.

1116
01:11:11,239 --> 01:11:13,520
Not because what I said was so profound, was because

1117
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:21,239
it would you know, detract from the kind of core

1118
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:27,880
yeah message, Yeah, I mean that's we should get more

1119
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:32,520
into without going too far outside the scope. We should

1120
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:41,279
get more into you know, the era in which the

1121
01:11:41,359 --> 01:11:46,359
girl was looking back, you know, sixties, seventies, eighties, and

1122
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,960
the implications there ran. And that's also when you know,

1123
01:11:49,399 --> 01:11:54,159
I mean, Heidiger's last public statement in the former like

1124
01:11:54,199 --> 01:12:00,840
an interview was nineteen sixty five, and then there was

1125
01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:05,520
But I mean, I this this, this stuff all the

1126
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:13,399
kind of enduring perspective of of dissident traditionalists, you know,

1127
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:18,239
the capital t or unreconstructed national socialist and fascists of

1128
01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:23,680
the era, and uh they agree to which that became

1129
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,960
like a truly underground tendency which now is somewhat emergent

1130
01:12:28,119 --> 01:12:31,479
in ways that was not possible before. But I mean,

1131
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,159
this is all important stuff. It's not just you know,

1132
01:12:34,279 --> 01:12:37,520
a conversation starter about you know, why, oh why is

1133
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,720
the girl interesting to read today? You know? It it

1134
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:45,840
relates to the origins of the movement that de Grell

1135
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:54,840
served and why the stakes became so truly desperate when

1136
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:59,920
Europe was threatened existentially by the kind of twin hydra

1137
01:13:00,399 --> 01:13:08,199
of Sovietism and and and Americanism. But uh yeah, I uh,

1138
01:13:09,119 --> 01:13:10,840
I'll be more. I'll be more with it too. And

1139
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,960
this when we reconvene, I'm getting over another flare up.

1140
01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:19,640
But I'm but well, uh, if it's not gonna screw

1141
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,159
up what you want to accomplish, we'll we'll deep dive

1142
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:29,000
a little bit into you know, Heideger and and kind

1143
01:13:29,039 --> 01:13:32,680
of the Aristotilian aspects of national socialism that also dovetail

1144
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:38,079
with Catholic metaphysics. If that's agreeable to.

1145
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:41,279
Speaker 1: You, Okay, well, part three we're gonna I'm gonna finish

1146
01:13:41,359 --> 01:13:43,479
up Christmas Time right here, and then we're going to

1147
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,399
take a break and and then when we come back

1148
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,680
for part three. Part three is the Misery of Mankind.

1149
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,720
It may starting off with what you want to talk

1150
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,439
about would probably be a very be a good introduction

1151
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:57,800
to that.

1152
01:13:58,279 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that sounds great.

1153
01:14:00,279 --> 01:14:04,319
Speaker 1: Another page and a half part eight Christmas Time. We

1154
01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:08,119
were only little children from the ardends. The snow blanketed

1155
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:11,239
the horizon, piled above the eaves of the roofs, and

1156
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,960
packed itself tight into the bottom of the bottoms of

1157
01:14:14,039 --> 01:14:17,279
our shoes. We were sure we saw Saint Joseph turn

1158
01:14:17,319 --> 01:14:20,560
around the corner of the Rue de Malone. To climb.

1159
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,840
The way to the church was tough going in the

1160
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,239
midnight darkness. At the last deep slope were resorted to

1161
01:14:26,319 --> 01:14:29,199
carrying our shoes in our hands. Suddenly, the night of

1162
01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:32,640
frozen darts gave way to the warm smell of the

1163
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,199
dazzling naves. Our heads were spinning a bit. The smell

1164
01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:40,640
of the incense intoxicated. The Douyene himself was pale. But

1165
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,560
from behind the choir screen came a din powerful enough

1166
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,199
to drive away the wild boars ten kilometers from our

1167
01:14:48,399 --> 01:14:51,720
tangled woods. The organ blower pedaled as if he feared

1168
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,760
arriving late. The director brought to the brought the choir

1169
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,840
to a wild turbulence. By the time of midnight Christians.

1170
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:02,560
The emotion and the noise had been such that we

1171
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,600
were climbing atop the straw of the chairs, expecting to

1172
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,680
see the angels suddenly appear above the choir. But the

1173
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,119
angels had continued to stand quietly among the candles, with

1174
01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:16,279
their large wings at rest. We approached them hands clasped

1175
01:15:16,399 --> 01:15:19,880
under our big woolen gloves. We were kneeling on the marble.

1176
01:15:20,319 --> 01:15:22,760
The brown ox and the gray donkey were close by.

1177
01:15:23,279 --> 01:15:25,359
We were burning to touch them, to see if their

1178
01:15:25,399 --> 01:15:28,800
hair would part like a fountain of water. But we

1179
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,840
children loved our children even more than we loved animals.

1180
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,439
We loved other children even more than we loved animals.

1181
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,760
Jesus was lying on the straw. It softened our hearts

1182
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,760
to think he must be cold. Nobody had given him

1183
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,439
thick stockings like us, no shoes, no scarf to wrap

1184
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,479
around his nose, no green woolen gloves to cover his hands.

1185
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,000
We looked a little astonished as the father Saint Joseph,

1186
01:15:53,279 --> 01:15:57,479
who humbly stood doing nothing to glorify himself, and the mother,

1187
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,720
clad in blue and white, so still and so beautiful.

1188
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,560
We knew only beautiful mothers with pure eyes in which

1189
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,680
we saw everything. We had looked into those eyes so often,

1190
01:16:08,079 --> 01:16:11,119
But those of the mother of little Jesus entranced, enchanted

1191
01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:14,159
us to the extreme, as if Heaven allowed children to

1192
01:16:14,199 --> 01:16:17,439
see more in them than men did. We said nothing

1193
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,439
when going down to the coast. When children say nothing,

1194
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,079
it is because they have because they much to say.

1195
01:16:25,399 --> 01:16:28,439
At home, the smoky chocolate and the big table covered

1196
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,279
with cakes never managed to tear us away. On the

1197
01:16:31,399 --> 01:16:35,159
return from invisible conversations between the children of human mothers

1198
01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:38,119
and the little child of the Mother of Heaven, on

1199
01:16:38,199 --> 01:16:41,399
the top of the piano, a crib had been erected,

1200
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,760
where we could, standing atop a stool, take the ox

1201
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,920
and the donkey in our hands. Little pink and blue

1202
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,439
candles were lit every night. Each child had their own

1203
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,960
on which they would blow a deep breath at the

1204
01:16:54,119 --> 01:16:58,000
end of the prayers. Behind, kneeling near a chair in

1205
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:02,000
the dark, the Mother led our religious impulses, guided us

1206
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,760
when it was all over. When we turned to her

1207
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,600
in order to obtain the right to put out our

1208
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,720
little lights, we saw in her two eyes shining so

1209
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:16,279
much emotional fervor. Paradise comes into the hearts of children

1210
01:17:16,359 --> 01:17:19,479
through the examples, through the example of the mother. At

1211
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,439
that hour, humble and poignant, the mother knew that little

1212
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,319
souls had been marked forever. That we could blow out

1213
01:17:25,359 --> 01:17:28,199
the little candles near the manger, but they would never

1214
01:17:28,239 --> 01:17:32,319
be extinguished in our hearts. Every winter, when Christmas returns,

1215
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,039
the little flames lit by our mothers once again burned

1216
01:17:36,119 --> 01:17:37,119
high and bright.

1217
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:42,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great, that's a great Uh Christmas, steven Man, Yeah,

1218
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,239
very timely, and I realized Christmas has passed us, but

1219
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,760
on New Year's Eve, I consider it kind of part

1220
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,680
of the same un going event, you know, between Christmas

1221
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,039
and New Year's So yeah, that very timely and very

1222
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:02,279
very inspiring stuff, very edifying as well.

1223
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am still saying Merry Christmas to people I

1224
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:06,319
don't care.

1225
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,039
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean that's yeah. I what's like I

1226
01:18:09,079 --> 01:18:11,680
said the other day too, like even where I I mean,

1227
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,159
I obviously like don't give a fuck about a biting

1228
01:18:15,319 --> 01:18:18,520
regime convention, but it's like, what what what other holiday

1229
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,960
is on December twenty fifth? I don't know about it.

1230
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:27,960
It's like a competitor holiday, you know. It's yeah, I

1231
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:34,840
you know, yeah, No, that's really uh, really beautiful stuff. Man.

1232
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:40,119
And thanks again. Sorry, I'm I'm uh, I'm dragging a

1233
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:43,920
little bit, but I hope, uh, I hope people got

1234
01:18:44,119 --> 01:18:46,199
something out of my commentary on this episode.

1235
01:18:47,079 --> 01:18:50,039
Speaker 1: All Right, we're going to continue to part three in

1236
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,039
the Burning Souls by Degrel, But Thomas, you want to

1237
01:18:54,039 --> 01:18:57,159
talk a little bit about the about the thought and

1238
01:18:57,279 --> 01:19:03,399
about the basically what would have been guys like Kim

1239
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,079
at the time he's writing this, what would have been

1240
01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:09,279
their thoughts, especially looking back upon the war.

1241
01:19:11,319 --> 01:19:17,079
Speaker 2: There's a context that's not appropriately addressed when we're talking

1242
01:19:17,119 --> 01:19:24,800
about national socialism and fascism and adjacent movements as a

1243
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:30,359
political philosophy. Ironically, some of the only people I know

1244
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:37,760
who've addressed that correctly were Leo Strauss and Joseph Cropsey

1245
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,079
when both through at the University of Chicago. They published

1246
01:19:41,119 --> 01:19:46,239
this huge value just a history of political philosophy, and

1247
01:19:46,279 --> 01:19:48,520
I highly recommend it. Like, it's not Strauss, it's not

1248
01:19:49,319 --> 01:19:53,560
kind Yeah, yeah, it's not Strauss's own. I mean, I

1249
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,359
don't generally recommend Strauss to anybody unless they're trying to

1250
01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:01,039
I kind of trace the trajector of, you know, the

1251
01:20:01,079 --> 01:20:06,399
American right post Nuremberg. But as as an intellectual historian,

1252
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:11,119
he's very useful. And the book I mentioned, it's it's

1253
01:20:11,279 --> 01:20:14,119
very it's it's very straightforward, and it's very much correct.

1254
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:17,239
That's there's not there's not polemic in it, and it's

1255
01:20:17,279 --> 01:20:20,600
not it's not colored by you know, a stain of

1256
01:20:21,079 --> 01:20:26,000
the author's ideological biases, but other than that, there's there's

1257
01:20:26,039 --> 01:20:28,720
just not And Carl Lowith too, who obviously my peters

1258
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:32,119
Strauss was inspired by, but who he parted ways with

1259
01:20:32,319 --> 01:20:38,800
on unfundamental issues not just of ethics, but uh you know,

1260
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,560
ontological ones about kind of the history of European thought.

1261
01:20:43,239 --> 01:20:48,399
But you know, there's this idea that and it's it's

1262
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:53,039
it transcends too, just like rationalizations for for dismissing any

1263
01:20:53,159 --> 01:20:57,640
merits of of of the movements that animated the countries

1264
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,479
that constantly excess powers. It goes beyond just the you know,

1265
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,439
the the kind of pragmatic affair of discrediting them. People

1266
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,319
honestly believe that these things just emergent as some kind

1267
01:21:09,319 --> 01:21:13,159
of stop gap measure to to either prevent revolutionary communism

1268
01:21:13,359 --> 01:21:16,600
or to you know, from from dominating the political landscape,

1269
01:21:17,039 --> 01:21:20,479
or to rationalize what amount to do a power grab

1270
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,239
by a coterie of extremists who who only had a

1271
01:21:24,279 --> 01:21:29,000
loosely defined city grievances as uh as they're kind of

1272
01:21:29,039 --> 01:21:33,920
political ambitions. That's not true at all. And in fact,

1273
01:21:34,359 --> 01:21:39,199
there was the inner warriors the right, whether we're talking

1274
01:21:39,239 --> 01:21:44,239
about you know, the fascists, the fascist movement around Mussolini,

1275
01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:48,239
whether we're talking about the National Socialist movement post Drexler,

1276
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,479
whether we're talking about you know, the Romanian Iron Guard,

1277
01:21:54,079 --> 01:21:58,319
all these movements attracted a dispports and amount of intellectuals,

1278
01:21:58,359 --> 01:22:01,199
you know, like middle class intellectual type, you know, the

1279
01:22:01,319 --> 01:22:03,479
kinds of people who spent a lot of time with

1280
01:22:04,119 --> 01:22:09,680
political philosophy and with things abstracted from the kind of

1281
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,079
day to day business of politics. And that's one of

1282
01:22:12,119 --> 01:22:16,119
the things that within their own dialogue with themselves and

1283
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:19,000
with each other, they were aware of that and lamented

1284
01:22:19,079 --> 01:22:23,239
that this tended to be harmful to praxis. Okay, but

1285
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:28,159
if you want to really understand where the rubber meets

1286
01:22:28,199 --> 01:22:31,399
the road, you've kind of got to read Heidegger, and

1287
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:32,840
you kind of have to look at these things through

1288
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:40,399
it a wrist Italian lanes, through a twentieth century continental perspective. Okay,

1289
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,960
And this can't be overstated. And like generally, like I

1290
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,640
wouldn't bring this up in a discussion or reading of

1291
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,920
a war memoir, but Lean de Grell is so very

1292
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,520
much in that tradition that I don't think it's something

1293
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,880
can be overlooked. And it also too, I think Heidiger

1294
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,960
some will disagree with me, including up to some of

1295
01:22:57,039 --> 01:22:59,840
the guys who who followed Bronze Age pervert. I'm not.

1296
01:23:00,039 --> 01:23:02,720
It's not like a slam on him or anything or

1297
01:23:04,079 --> 01:23:06,600
or the people I'm disgusting, but they seem to view

1298
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,399
heidiger Is like as somebody who sort of like broke

1299
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,760
with Nietzsche and like was with some kind of like

1300
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,720
neo scholastic That's very misguided and it's incorrect. And what

1301
01:23:16,399 --> 01:23:21,159
Heidegger clarified to like what Nietzsche's objection was to Christianity

1302
01:23:21,239 --> 01:23:24,439
and like why it was problematic, and it's not. It's not.

1303
01:23:25,079 --> 01:23:28,279
It's not because Christianity is proportaly like pacifist, or because

1304
01:23:28,319 --> 01:23:30,479
it's Semitic or like anything like that. There's nothing to

1305
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:37,560
do with it at all. The the Heidigerian view and

1306
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,960
thus what became the national socialist view. And I'm not

1307
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,239
saying this synonymous. I'm saying they share this kind of

1308
01:23:46,079 --> 01:23:51,840
ontological view or a view of like political and philosophical

1309
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:56,279
and ontology and common It's that like the beginning of

1310
01:23:56,319 --> 01:24:01,279
the West as like a cultural form, you know it, uh,

1311
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:06,439
it began with it began with the pre Socratics, and

1312
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,359
it began with a question of being you know, like

1313
01:24:08,399 --> 01:24:11,000
what it is to literally be conscious and to exist

1314
01:24:11,079 --> 01:24:17,119
in the world. There's an understanding of this as being. Essentially,

1315
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:23,760
it's being a characterized by a certain dynamism and a

1316
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:32,119
tendency towards change and reconstitution and creative destruction. Okay, I'm

1317
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:38,359
trying to condense it as much as possible. But this, uh,

1318
01:24:39,039 --> 01:24:44,640
this understanding of being was was superseded by the emergence

1319
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:52,079
of Plato and Platonism, which of course too informs in

1320
01:24:53,039 --> 01:25:00,279
indispensable ways, you know, the Christian metaphysics, regardless of your sect. Okay,

1321
01:25:02,079 --> 01:25:07,399
being as characterized through the lens of Platonism is an

1322
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:15,399
eternal presence. It's absolutely unchanging. It's accessible by coming and

1323
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,039
though if you want to look at this way like

1324
01:25:17,119 --> 01:25:25,359
a realm of uh, of perfect existence that can only

1325
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:35,720
be accessed by a difficult dialectical ascent. Now, human beings

1326
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:40,039
can't experience it directly, obviously in the Christian view, you know,

1327
01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:43,720
in mortal life. But the only way they can even

1328
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:48,079
come to understand it at all is basically through a

1329
01:25:48,159 --> 01:25:50,760
combination of grace and piety like the four of which,

1330
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:58,159
depending on your interpretation and confessional heritage and soteriology, they're

1331
01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:02,640
in like is exclusively in the hands of God. But

1332
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,199
the crisis of the modern age to people like Heideger

1333
01:26:09,359 --> 01:26:13,520
and thus too fascist and national socialists, is that what

1334
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:18,319
modernity did was it created conditions whereby people could no

1335
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:22,159
longer believe in God. Like not that they'd be punished

1336
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:23,840
if they did or something. What I mean is that

1337
01:26:26,039 --> 01:26:29,720
just by being in the world as it existed in

1338
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,279
the modern age, and it's the scientific and technological perspective

1339
01:26:33,399 --> 01:26:36,680
crowded out all other possible ways of knowing it simply

1340
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,720
wasn't possible to believe in this in in in this

1341
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:44,920
perfect and mutable the form of being that way that

1342
01:26:45,079 --> 01:26:49,920
was God. Okay, Like even if what's set about to

1343
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:54,279
believe in it, you know, they they it'd be it'd

1344
01:26:54,319 --> 01:26:57,479
be a it'd be dead on arrivals of proposition, because

1345
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,760
like what would you do? Would you would you mathematically

1346
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,880
aculate God? Would you would you identify you know, the

1347
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,680
essential characteristics of God and then attempt to access those

1348
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,279
things discreetly and then you know, through some kind of

1349
01:27:09,319 --> 01:27:11,800
like discourse of the learned man, like come to know God?

1350
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,039
You know, like obviously I'm being obtuse on purpose. But

1351
01:27:17,159 --> 01:27:20,000
the it's it's it's essential understand we're not talking about

1352
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,479
something like deliberate turn towards atheism as we think of

1353
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:26,720
atheism today. We're talking about a literal impossibility of holding

1354
01:27:27,079 --> 01:27:33,079
a belief in God is understood, you know, from ah

1355
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:40,479
from very very ancient, a very very ancient epoch and

1356
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:47,520
to the present. Okay. The problem with this is that

1357
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:54,079
if you look at the way people exist politically, again

1358
01:27:54,119 --> 01:27:58,800
in the view of Heideger and the view really Aristotle

1359
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,920
as a you know, accounting for the you know, kind

1360
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:08,039
of modern conditions and the limitations they're in, as well

1361
01:28:08,079 --> 01:28:13,520
as you know, possibilities that weren't in the classical world.

1362
01:28:16,319 --> 01:28:22,239
What being is it's inextricably related to time and temporal experience.

1363
01:28:23,119 --> 01:28:26,800
That's how the human mind structures itself in individual persons

1364
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:32,760
as well as within cultures, in races, any kind of

1365
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:36,680
human organization writ large socially and politically. I mean to

1366
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,159
like literally, what your ethnos is is like the experience

1367
01:28:40,199 --> 01:28:46,319
of a people and they're being over time, and the

1368
01:28:46,399 --> 01:28:49,560
way that that develops is this kind of immediate consciousness

1369
01:28:50,039 --> 01:28:52,359
in the mind of any man and woman that they

1370
01:28:52,399 --> 01:28:55,479
are in the world, that somebody they will die, that

1371
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,239
others around them are like them in some way, and

1372
01:28:58,359 --> 01:29:02,720
the language they speak, you know, the physical artifacts they're

1373
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,920
attracted to, you know, the things they hold to be sacred,

1374
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,319
the things they hold to be profane. You know what

1375
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,239
they consider it beautiful, what they consider ugly. You know

1376
01:29:13,159 --> 01:29:17,399
what they identify with in intimate capacities and what repels

1377
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:21,640
them similarly and intimate capacities. That's related to, quite literally,

1378
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,920
the experience of a people over time that could be

1379
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:29,119
said to be their people in the past, in the future,

1380
01:29:29,199 --> 01:29:33,960
and in the present until that person or those people die. Okay,

1381
01:29:39,039 --> 01:29:40,960
this is the only way one can say it be

1382
01:29:41,039 --> 01:29:43,960
said to experience beating in the world in some capacity

1383
01:29:44,039 --> 01:29:46,439
other than an animal. Okay, because this is the only

1384
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,960
thing that is facility is to production of culture. The

1385
01:29:50,119 --> 01:29:53,800
grave danger of not just the modern age, but specifically

1386
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:59,800
the twentieth century is that the twin kind of hydras

1387
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:04,159
of communism and Americanism. Heideger spoke of Americanism when he

1388
01:30:04,319 --> 01:30:07,079
meant what we'd probably say is capitalism. That's not him

1389
01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:10,560
like trashing peckerwoods or saying Americans are the almost all

1390
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,680
the people. Ever, so don't get upset, And that's actually

1391
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:17,119
accurate what he is. It's more accuracy Americanism than capitalism.

1392
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,199
But he said that the enterprise, the whole raizon detra

1393
01:30:21,359 --> 01:30:25,439
of these ideologies is to utterly eradicate the ability of

1394
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,560
people to exist in time and live historically. It's to

1395
01:30:29,159 --> 01:30:32,439
totally eradicate culture so that there's no potential of any

1396
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:37,000
kind of identitarian existence, so that there's no human existence

1397
01:30:37,039 --> 01:30:40,439
as we thought of it, heretofore, and instead we can

1398
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:44,000
replace culture with the things that really matter in terms

1399
01:30:44,039 --> 01:30:51,039
of eliminating inequities and in managing people in in secular life,

1400
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,479
you know, and that is, you know, mastering technology to

1401
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,159
bring nature within you know, a productive domain, you know,

1402
01:30:58,359 --> 01:31:00,279
so that we can do away with shortages, we can

1403
01:31:00,359 --> 01:31:05,640
do away with, you know, inequalities of status and power.

1404
01:31:06,119 --> 01:31:10,119
Going to the fact that you know, productive technique can

1405
01:31:10,199 --> 01:31:16,560
avail everything in our environment, you know, to to to

1406
01:31:17,039 --> 01:31:21,239
and avail it to being marshaled as a consumable resource. Okay,

1407
01:31:21,279 --> 01:31:23,760
So as you're talking about the world literally devouring itself

1408
01:31:24,399 --> 01:31:28,399
for the sake of keeping humans alive, for the sake

1409
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:34,119
of keeping them alive, you know, you're literally eradicating the

1410
01:31:34,199 --> 01:31:39,720
ability of man to exist temporally you know, and that's

1411
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,880
a monstrous enterprise. And when you add in the understanding

1412
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,640
of the human being as not just inheriting as culture

1413
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:54,000
in some loose metaphysical way, but in a very direct

1414
01:31:54,039 --> 01:31:58,159
and biological way, as you know, is becoming clear is

1415
01:31:58,199 --> 01:32:00,680
one part of the equation in terms of eptic memory.

1416
01:32:01,119 --> 01:32:03,520
That's one of the fascinating aspects of the human genome project,

1417
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:07,279
among many. And I'm not saying that biological process takes

1418
01:32:07,359 --> 01:32:10,079
precedent over anything else at all, but I'm saying that

1419
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:14,439
the fact of this discovery of these such things for

1420
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:19,039
the confirms that we already knew, okay, And that is

1421
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,039
I realized that that wasn't short when I've just kind

1422
01:32:23,079 --> 01:32:27,399
of laid out there. But as a condensed that's the

1423
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:31,199
condensed version of why the right became so radical and

1424
01:32:31,399 --> 01:32:35,119
what its enterprise was, and why it's somewhat difficult to define, okay,

1425
01:32:35,239 --> 01:32:39,279
Like you ask, like what the communist program was. There

1426
01:32:39,359 --> 01:32:43,640
was a certain complexity inherent, because there's a certain complexity

1427
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:47,439
adherent to economics. Even if your economic schema is not

1428
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:52,800
really founded upon falsifiable premises but is basically just you know,

1429
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:58,079
like an ideological statement, you're still drawing upon tremendous valumes

1430
01:32:58,119 --> 01:33:02,640
of data. Okay, that is, you know, within the terms

1431
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:06,880
of its own processes and assumptions. It's complicated. Okay, if

1432
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:10,800
you're talking about Americanism. If Americanism is you know, the

1433
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:14,319
capital L liberal tradition I'm talking about in purely, purely

1434
01:33:14,319 --> 01:33:17,000
in terms of political philosophy. You know, from Hobbes to

1435
01:33:17,279 --> 01:33:20,720
uh to Locke, you know, to Pain and then to

1436
01:33:22,079 --> 01:33:27,800
uh you know, Adam Smith and things like that. There.

1437
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:34,199
You know, there's there is a certain complexity there despite

1438
01:33:34,239 --> 01:33:37,640
its reductionism. But it's a complexity that can be pretty,

1439
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,680
but they can be you know, I described in terms

1440
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:45,279
of very concrete variables and phenomenon. Okay, if you were

1441
01:33:45,319 --> 01:33:48,319
a fascist or a national socialist, or today if you're

1442
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:53,119
you know, a capital T traditionalist or a dissident, wherever

1443
01:33:53,159 --> 01:33:56,279
you follow in the equation. You know, whether you're you know,

1444
01:33:56,319 --> 01:33:59,840
whether you're AH, you know, whether you're a national socialist

1445
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,039
in the twenty first century sense. You know, like i'd

1446
01:34:02,079 --> 01:34:04,640
say I am in large part, whether you're a CAPITALT traditionalist.

1447
01:34:05,199 --> 01:34:08,159
You know, whether you're whether whether you're a view of

1448
01:34:08,239 --> 01:34:12,079
things is kind of like that. Guys who you know

1449
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,800
servant hes blah or on the other side of the divide,

1450
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:21,000
you know, are you know, serve with these like Musha

1451
01:34:21,119 --> 01:34:27,600
Dean groupings on the sunny side. It's difficult. It's not

1452
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,520
as simple as saying it's not as simple as stating like, well,

1453
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,479
I just believe in my race, or like, well, I

1454
01:34:33,159 --> 01:34:35,119
you know, I just I believe in Christ, or well

1455
01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:37,399
like I'm a Maslam or you know, well, I believe

1456
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,720
in tradition and preserving you know, tradition as an essential

1457
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:44,600
to culture and culture being in inextricable aspect of the

1458
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,840
human and the human experience and and the human soul.

1459
01:34:48,199 --> 01:34:50,920
You know, there's like you're talking about things a tremendous

1460
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:58,279
significance that also you know, can't can't can't just be

1461
01:34:58,399 --> 01:35:02,960
broken down into discreen sentences, you know. So that's I

1462
01:35:03,039 --> 01:35:04,840
know that people there are buttle is gonna be like, well,

1463
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,319
you're just trying to my mythologize something that's a base

1464
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:13,640
course and as simple as any other political ontology. I

1465
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:18,439
don't think that's the case, okay, And I don't see

1466
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:22,239
how this is arguable. And that's when you're reading a

1467
01:35:22,319 --> 01:35:27,079
guy like de Grell or Kadriannu or Francis Yaqui. Those

1468
01:35:27,079 --> 01:35:30,079
three men came from very different places, Okay, a very

1469
01:35:30,079 --> 01:35:34,159
different background as well. Point the tie that binds is

1470
01:35:34,359 --> 01:35:37,760
a commitment to this perspective that I just described and

1471
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:44,239
kind of the condensed version. And uh, these guys aren't

1472
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,720
just uh, they don't just love hearing them so they

1473
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,520
just love hearing themselves talk or you know, they it's

1474
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:51,079
not like they were getting paid by the words. They

1475
01:35:51,159 --> 01:35:53,479
decided to be as you know, voluminous as possible. When

1476
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,920
it's not like these guys were literary figures who were

1477
01:35:57,359 --> 01:36:00,600
trying to try to capture the perfect sentence or something.

1478
01:36:01,039 --> 01:36:02,960
You know, it's because what they were dealing with it

1479
01:36:03,119 --> 01:36:10,359
wasn't reducible to the same concrete kind of schema of

1480
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:14,640
a you know, a liberal Americanist or or a communist

1481
01:36:15,039 --> 01:36:17,159
or these days, you know, like a secular humanist kind

1482
01:36:17,159 --> 01:36:20,479
of statement of rights or like of you know, what

1483
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,560
constitutes the dignity of the person or what you know,

1484
01:36:25,239 --> 01:36:27,600
what we consider to be, what we can consider to

1485
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:32,840
be you know, due process and in terms of you know,

1486
01:36:33,159 --> 01:36:37,800
in terms of the modern state, and uh, you know

1487
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:43,600
what the individual can expect in terms of you know,

1488
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:48,279
his his his intrinsic claims to liberty is a good

1489
01:36:48,319 --> 01:36:50,640
in itself, being honored, you know, when confronted with the

1490
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:54,520
great power of that modern state. And i'll, i'll, I'll

1491
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,720
end now because I don't want to take up on

1492
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,199
the oxygen in the room, but I consider that's to

1493
01:36:59,279 --> 01:37:02,720
be very important. And like when we're discussing any of these,

1494
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,720
we're discussing this topic just in general terms, you know,

1495
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,600
approaching it philosophically, you know, tending to unpack like what

1496
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:16,479
constitutes its philosophical core, but also specifically, when you know,

1497
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:18,760
any any discussion of any author, in part you're going

1498
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,279
to be dealing with, like not just the character that author.

1499
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:23,960
I mean when I say character, I don't just mean

1500
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,199
moral behavior and stuff that's part of it, but like

1501
01:37:26,319 --> 01:37:31,159
what actual like what characteristics are most paramount in his personality,

1502
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:35,000
but also you know, like why, why why he configured

1503
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,399
his thoughts the way that he did in terms of

1504
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:40,920
trying to convey to others, you know, what what the

1505
01:37:41,119 --> 01:37:46,560
what his experience of of of of life as a

1506
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,399
partisan was, So that that's that's all I've got on it.

1507
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:50,960
But yeah, I wanted to get that out.

1508
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think That's important because if you

1509
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:57,039
bring up the names like to Grell and Jacky and

1510
01:37:58,079 --> 01:38:02,199
I mean anyone basically from that, from that quadrant, it's

1511
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,680
just dismissed as they were evil they yeah, they were

1512
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,000
doing this just because they were evil men. And it's

1513
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:12,479
that's a real easy way to dismiss and to promote

1514
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:16,199
what the regime propaganda has been since then.

1515
01:38:17,039 --> 01:38:19,520
Speaker 2: It's also just like grossly simple minded. Like I'm always

1516
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:22,079
making the point if you're a per if you're a

1517
01:38:22,159 --> 01:38:25,760
guy like then or as now, like the girl, or

1518
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:29,319
like Francis Jacky, or like Kadrian who or like Johann

1519
01:38:29,359 --> 01:38:31,359
von Leers, who's like different than all those guys. But

1520
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:33,920
you know, I'm something of an orientalyst myself, so I

1521
01:38:34,079 --> 01:38:36,239
take an interest in what he did. If somebody like

1522
01:38:36,319 --> 01:38:38,600
really takes an interest in race, you know, like as

1523
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,720
not just his own and you know, an interest in

1524
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,199
the posterity of his own people, but you're truly interested

1525
01:38:44,199 --> 01:38:46,239
in like race, I'm truly interested in politics. You're sure

1526
01:38:46,279 --> 01:38:50,880
you're interested in race and interested in the race. You know,

1527
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:56,000
you're interested in in what its origins are, you're interested

1528
01:38:56,039 --> 01:38:59,319
in its implications, and you're interested into nuances. So like

1529
01:38:59,359 --> 01:39:02,239
you're gonna you'ren you're gonna spend time around like other

1530
01:39:02,399 --> 01:39:05,000
people's just because you want to observe them. And I

1531
01:39:05,159 --> 01:39:08,479
do that all the time. And I've realized like every

1532
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,520
like major national socialist like did that all the time.

1533
01:39:12,199 --> 01:39:15,279
So like this idea of like, oh, you know fascists

1534
01:39:15,319 --> 01:39:17,239
or guys who just like hate in words and like

1535
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,680
don't refuse livings and like segregations, refuse living anything but

1536
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,880
the most segregative environments, I'm like, actually, they're like the opposite.

1537
01:39:24,079 --> 01:39:25,760
They can say that like people like us like are

1538
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,640
looking down on people or like we're reducing people to

1539
01:39:29,239 --> 01:39:31,680
you know, these kinds of like non human integers because

1540
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,960
we're curious about them. Like I don't accept that if

1541
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,600
you can like say that. But this idea of like

1542
01:39:37,239 --> 01:39:40,359
that basically like a fascist or like a or like

1543
01:39:40,399 --> 01:39:45,600
a contemporary partisan you know who holds you know, similar

1544
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:49,520
sympathies adjusted for epoch is some guy who just quote

1545
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:52,479
hates people and wants to like live in some mall

1546
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:56,399
of America environment where everybody's exactly like him. Like that's

1547
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,199
that's really really off base. That's like not at all all,

1548
01:40:01,239 --> 01:40:03,479
Like you're basically there's some kind of caricature that's some

1549
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:05,880
kind of combination of a caricature of like of of

1550
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,439
kind of like a pussy Reagan Republican and like some

1551
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:13,079
weird communists like this. Like it's not like it's not like,

1552
01:40:13,159 --> 01:40:14,880
don't get me wrong. It's not to say that people

1553
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:18,520
like mere people like us. We want some like multicultural

1554
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,760
environment around us because it gives us a chance, you know,

1555
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:25,720
to augment our research. But the point is that, you know,

1556
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:30,479
first of all, genuine multiculturalism is is is very robust

1557
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,359
and rich when you're talking about exclusively like white people

1558
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:38,439
on deck, because there's many many cultures that constitute a race. Okay. Secondly,

1559
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:44,439
it not what what I think, what I approve of

1560
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,760
or don't approve of, like politically relates nothing to do

1561
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,520
with like who I like or dislike. Like it's it's

1562
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,560
in some ways it's the opposite, you know. I mean,

1563
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:56,560
the tragedy of power politics is that you may have

1564
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,760
to kill people individually are at scale who not only

1565
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:01,520
do you not have any problem with, but you might

1566
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:05,600
not even dislike, you know, like this idea that politics

1567
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:10,760
is just some sort of highly scaled expression of crude

1568
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:14,479
human passions of not particularly intelligent people who like don't

1569
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:18,439
like other people like that's that's oddly illiterate, and like

1570
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,159
this is not the way humans act, you know, like

1571
01:41:21,359 --> 01:41:25,520
uh like at all, like like anywhere. But yeah, so

1572
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:30,439
it's like you know it, uh, it's it's it's really

1573
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:33,479
really really fucking bizarre. But it's also I mean even

1574
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:38,720
people again who have a somewhat more sophisticated take on it,

1575
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:41,199
yet nonetheless you know, erect an endless kind of army,

1576
01:41:41,239 --> 01:41:44,439
a straw man to try and tear down the right

1577
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:48,520
as an intellectual tendency. Like they like like they don't

1578
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,119
they don't get it either, you know, like the you

1579
01:41:51,239 --> 01:41:54,960
can you know, you can say that, uh you can

1580
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:58,319
say that people like Heideger were crazy, I guess, or

1581
01:41:58,359 --> 01:42:00,560
you can say that, well, you know, how was just

1582
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:04,600
he was afraid of what he was afraid of a

1583
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:08,840
process that translates approximately to practical transcendence, you know, and like, oh,

1584
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:12,359
for all of us talk about the pre socratics, you know,

1585
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,279
kind of like the immediate, the sense, the sensuous presence,

1586
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:19,880
immediate presence of the human individually and at scale. You know,

1587
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:23,079
that's what makes culture for all, for all his talk

1588
01:42:23,159 --> 01:42:25,279
of dynamism and change. You know, he really was just

1589
01:42:25,359 --> 01:42:27,439
kind of attached like the state forms of the past.

1590
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:29,960
I think that's a gross and deliberate misreading of him.

1591
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,600
But like I'll accept that. But just saying that, like

1592
01:42:33,359 --> 01:42:35,840
this is all some like elaborate this is all some

1593
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:39,920
sort of like elaborate charade so that people can you know,

1594
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:43,720
go around doing mean or evil things, or so that

1595
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:46,520
you know, they can rationalize the fact that they have

1596
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,680
some personal animosity towards like X, Y or Z group

1597
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:53,840
of people. Like that's literally retarded. That that the suggestion

1598
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:57,520
that such things are are the motivations or you know,

1599
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:04,039
constitute the commitments in the minds of the people who

1600
01:43:04,079 --> 01:43:07,800
advocate such things or who suggest uh that what it

1601
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:12,760
is described, you know, is a is a matter of

1602
01:43:13,039 --> 01:43:18,600
imperative significance to to anybody who you know wishes, which

1603
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:21,119
is for human life to not deteriorate to the level

1604
01:43:21,159 --> 01:43:23,439
of peace. But yeah, that I don't again, I want

1605
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:25,079
to I don't want to take up all of our time,

1606
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:29,840
so I will I will shut my mouth and let

1607
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:30,359
you get on.

1608
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:36,359
Speaker 1: With our well, let us uh on that note, Let's

1609
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:42,560
get to part three here, which is the misery of mankind,

1610
01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:45,880
I will start reading again, and like I said, stop

1611
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:49,840
anytime you wish to comment on it. Okay, So Part

1612
01:43:50,079 --> 01:43:53,199
Part nine. The blind men, the money, the honors, and

1613
01:43:53,239 --> 01:43:55,800
the mess of bodies. The eagerness to seize and earthly

1614
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:59,439
happiness which leaks between the fingers and always escapes, has

1615
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,840
made it The human heard, a pitiful horde, ruining itself,

1616
01:44:03,239 --> 01:44:06,439
tearing itself apart to find a liberation which does not exist.

1617
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,600
Only the false laughter rising from the rabble serves to

1618
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,560
remind us that it is not a question of herd animals,

1619
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:17,520
but of men. This stampede of the damn seized first

1620
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:21,319
the individual, then the people as a whole. It is

1621
01:44:21,399 --> 01:44:24,560
no longer a solitary game in which one is enthralled

1622
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:28,560
by personal passions or vices. Whole communities are sucked in

1623
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:32,800
by the vertigo of impossible desires, the desire to be first,

1624
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,720
that is to say, the desire to trample upon, the

1625
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:39,079
desire for purely material power, that is to say, the

1626
01:44:39,199 --> 01:44:44,039
desire to suffocate and destroy the spiritual. All will power,

1627
01:44:44,279 --> 01:44:47,520
all effort becomes useless in the face of this human dissolution.

1628
01:44:48,119 --> 01:44:51,239
And it is here that the spiritual always reappears as

1629
01:44:51,319 --> 01:44:52,840
rebuke or as a curse.

1630
01:44:53,079 --> 01:44:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to insinuate just that's an important point

1631
01:44:56,359 --> 01:45:01,199
because as you do, do you believe in the intrinsic

1632
01:45:01,319 --> 01:45:05,399
value of high mat or a gamn shoft you know,

1633
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,319
blood and like you know, folk community or whatever, even

1634
01:45:09,039 --> 01:45:11,800
when when those things are taken away and all you

1635
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:16,199
have basically is you know, it's like if if something

1636
01:45:16,399 --> 01:45:20,920
like you know, if something like the Soviet system, like

1637
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:22,880
the you know, is realized as it was you know

1638
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:26,680
in the nineteen twenties, and people basically like you do succeed,

1639
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,680
like you being you know, the revolutionary vanguard, you do

1640
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:34,760
actually succeed in transforming you know, what was previously you know,

1641
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,640
a community based on ethnos and temporal being in the

1642
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,079
world or generations, if you just like reduce that to

1643
01:45:41,159 --> 01:45:43,680
a labor camp like people does are tearing each other

1644
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:45,840
apart because it's like, first of all, I gotta look

1645
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:48,199
out for myself and my family. Like second of all,

1646
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:50,199
I want I want to be a chief, not an

1647
01:45:50,239 --> 01:45:52,319
Indian or at least you know, like a shot caller,

1648
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:56,560
you know, So I'm I'm going to attack whoever has more,

1649
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,760
whether it's cloud or whether it's you know, what passes

1650
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:03,960
for wealth, whether it's proximity to you know, the party apparatus,

1651
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:07,880
Like you're actually like you're you're actually encouraging people to,

1652
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,600
you know, to kind of tear out the root even

1653
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,560
further and kind of do your work for you, I mean,

1654
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:15,720
which is very mu's by design in my opinion, that's

1655
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,119
not some kind of accident, but yeah, go ahead.

1656
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,520
Speaker 1: This baseness has poured out from the limited circles of

1657
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:27,279
the elites into the extended circles of the masses, tossing

1658
01:46:27,319 --> 01:46:31,479
them about on waves of infinite desire, ambition, and pseudo pleasures,

1659
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:36,800
which are just character caricatures of joy. The clear water

1660
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,159
of the heart has been clouded to its outer limits.

1661
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:43,079
The river of men now carries a putrid stink. The

1662
01:46:43,199 --> 01:46:45,720
disorder of the century has upset this river that was

1663
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:50,720
once light reads and plunging flights of swallows. Men and

1664
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,720
peoples regard each other with violent with violent eyes, their

1665
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:58,439
hands seared and bitter by their avarice. Every day the

1666
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:02,239
world is more selfish and more brutal. This is great

1667
01:47:02,319 --> 01:47:06,840
hatred between men, between classes, between peoples, between everyone, because

1668
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:10,079
everyone is bent on the pursuit of material goods which

1669
01:47:10,239 --> 01:47:15,199
ultimately avail nothing but all abandon the goods proffered to

1670
01:47:15,319 --> 01:47:18,640
all of the moral universe and the eternity of the soul.

1671
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:24,119
We run madly, bloody our foreheads, beating our heads against

1672
01:47:24,159 --> 01:47:28,399
the walls, on paths of hatred, or of objection, abjection,

1673
01:47:29,039 --> 01:47:33,680
or of madness, shouting our passions, throwing ourselves wildly at everything,

1674
01:47:34,119 --> 01:47:38,520
desiring to gain that which we can never have. Part

1675
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,880
ten the lines of sorrow. There are few hearts that

1676
01:47:42,039 --> 01:47:45,920
have not been soiled with villainy, sordid axe, leprous faults,

1677
01:47:46,159 --> 01:47:49,079
leaving telltale cracks for those with eyes to see them.

1678
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:52,399
Even hearts washed of the stains of the moral swamp

1679
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:55,680
will still keep a bitter taste of imperfection and ashes.

1680
01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:00,279
Cracked porcelain can be fixed, Yet whoever saw it broken

1681
01:48:00,319 --> 01:48:04,600
will forever recognize the lines. However, finally repaired of the break,

1682
01:48:05,279 --> 01:48:08,159
he knows that the invisible unity of the perfect will

1683
01:48:08,199 --> 01:48:13,479
never return, but it is gone forever. The longer one lives,

1684
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,279
the more the heart is marked by these lines of sorrow,

1685
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,520
imperceptible for all those who have not seen or not

1686
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:23,640
known what made them, but heartbreakingly by all they contain

1687
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:28,680
of broken delicacy, like fine silks, which runs slightly, which

1688
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:33,279
runs silently, happy again, those are who are purified by

1689
01:48:33,359 --> 01:48:38,079
invisible suffering. How many others, whatever value vice may have,

1690
01:48:38,359 --> 01:48:42,039
strive to convince themselves that this abasement was useful, forever

1691
01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:45,319
marked by this burning apparel, which has cooled on their

1692
01:48:45,399 --> 01:48:49,640
skin and sticks to it, corrupts their flesh and becomes

1693
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:53,560
one with it. Whose eyes can one meet without trembling?

1694
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,520
What are they hiding? Who has not been vile on

1695
01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:01,279
one day? Who does not carry within himself worryd's gestures, desires,

1696
01:49:01,359 --> 01:49:04,920
shameful abdications, or the mummified corpse of his inner life?

1697
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,319
How many men, how many women, do not even hide

1698
01:49:08,359 --> 01:49:11,359
the bankruptcy of their senses, their oaths, and the miserable

1699
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:15,479
desecration of their bodies, sometimes with remorse, most of the

1700
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:18,720
time without remorse, or rather even with a touch of

1701
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:24,039
triumph and insolent provocation. In the final account, those who

1702
01:49:24,039 --> 01:49:27,800
have liquidated everything, decency, modesty, respect for one's self, for

1703
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:31,039
one's body, for one's word, and God with the rest

1704
01:49:31,359 --> 01:49:34,600
are only the results of hundreds of smaller prior denials,

1705
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:39,079
denied or hidden from the start, the whole is destroyed

1706
01:49:39,159 --> 01:49:41,920
only when the innumerable fibers of the heart have been

1707
01:49:42,039 --> 01:49:45,600
sheared one after the other by lies and ill intent,

1708
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:53,000
followed by multiple abandonments, more and more irredeemable, irre irremediable,

1709
01:49:53,920 --> 01:50:00,520
with the conscience assassinated. At the end, disaster SAPs to

1710
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:04,680
mind before spending, before spreading throughout the whole body. The

1711
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:07,479
body does not yield, does not allow itself to be

1712
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:12,600
to debase, trapped and defiled to death until long after

1713
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:16,479
the soul, negligent or intoxicated by the appeal of sin,

1714
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:20,000
has abandoned. The oars, which at the beginning trace straight

1715
01:50:20,119 --> 01:50:26,720
paths on pure waters. Part eleven. The Saints check on's

1716
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:27,119
up here?

1717
01:50:27,319 --> 01:50:29,199
Speaker 2: Okay, good, all right?

1718
01:50:30,039 --> 01:50:33,319
Speaker 1: The Saints varying in intelligence by possessing a heart given

1719
01:50:33,399 --> 01:50:36,680
without limits, whom the fallen and corrupt hold in such esteem.

1720
01:50:37,079 --> 01:50:39,920
The Saints show us to perfection is that perfection is

1721
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:43,560
open to all. They too were simple men, simple women,

1722
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:48,920
charged with passions, weaknesses, and often faults. They too sometimes

1723
01:50:49,039 --> 01:50:51,800
did to tire, give in and tell themselves that they

1724
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:53,760
would never be able to get rid of the smell

1725
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:57,520
of muck and sin that accompanies us. But still they

1726
01:50:57,600 --> 01:50:58,840
did not renounce themselves.

1727
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,560
Speaker 2: And that's important as visa v what we were talking

1728
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,880
about or what I raised in the industry, like about

1729
01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:09,119
if you if you're looking for like a fascist practice,

1730
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:15,479
it borrows heavily from the understanding of from the Roman

1731
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:21,159
Church's understanding of martyrdom. And and for this reason is

1732
01:51:21,199 --> 01:51:24,800
what the grill just said. And that's you know, the

1733
01:51:25,039 --> 01:51:30,000
uh getting you know, the this idea that like well

1734
01:51:30,199 --> 01:51:32,960
you know we we we when one one can't come

1735
01:51:33,039 --> 01:51:35,800
to know the eternal, one can't come to know providence,

1736
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:40,000
you know, through through dialectic. You know, it's just it's

1737
01:51:40,039 --> 01:51:42,600
just completely kind of off and unavailable. So you know,

1738
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:46,039
how how can we how can we partake of you know,

1739
01:51:46,159 --> 01:51:48,960
what's essentially godly? Then you know it's like, well, you know,

1740
01:51:49,039 --> 01:51:51,760
through martyrdom. That doesn't mean like running out looking for

1741
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:54,399
ways to kill ourselves or like running out and becoming

1742
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,159
you know, holy warriors all over. Some men that and

1743
01:51:58,319 --> 01:52:03,079
some women too, that is their vocation martyr as uh

1744
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:08,359
are a Roman Catholic. Friends will tell you literally needs witness, okay,

1745
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,600
and it doesn't mean that obvious I'm not saying that

1746
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:15,720
fashion The National Socialists somehow corner of the market on

1747
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:19,319
martyrdom in the contemporary age, nor even that you know,

1748
01:52:22,039 --> 01:52:26,520
Christian or Catholic concepts are intrinsic to the national socialism

1749
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:28,439
or fascist I'm not saying that at all. But what

1750
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:34,520
I'm saying is that this concern with the UH abandonment

1751
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:37,439
of God and you know, the literal death of God

1752
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:42,920
by way of UH. You know, the the the triumph,

1753
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:46,880
the total and complete triumph of the UH of the

1754
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:55,039
rationalists and and and and scientific perspective, and UH, the

1755
01:52:55,159 --> 01:53:00,359
destruction of the ability to live historically. You know, which

1756
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:04,479
UH and and and again, like living historically is simply

1757
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:09,079
the human being individually in at scale, you know, confronting

1758
01:53:09,159 --> 01:53:13,159
death and thus, like living in time. You know, the

1759
01:53:13,279 --> 01:53:18,119
only way to reconstitute that is through through is through

1760
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:21,439
the practice of religion, you know, whether it's you know,

1761
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:27,479
returning to Catholic UH Catholic practice, whether it's you know,

1762
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:32,239
discovering you know, reawakening the inner witness if you're a Protestant,

1763
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:36,840
or like awaiting you know that the conferring of grace,

1764
01:53:37,119 --> 01:53:40,479
you know, through God's will awakening that inner witness, or

1765
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:43,399
you know, if you're like an agnostic national socialist, which

1766
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:47,439
a lot of our comrades are, and that's fine. Nevertheless,

1767
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:52,039
you know, it's uh. It's like the practice of what

1768
01:53:52,119 --> 01:53:58,560
we're talking about, of reconstituting the sacred entails murderdom, and

1769
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:00,479
that's hugely important.

1770
01:54:04,239 --> 01:54:07,239
Speaker 1: They too, sometimes did to tire give in and tell

1771
01:54:07,319 --> 01:54:09,920
themselves that they would never be able to get rid

1772
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:13,039
of that smell of mucking sin that accompanies us. But

1773
01:54:13,239 --> 01:54:16,560
still they did not renounce themselves. With each fall, they

1774
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,439
straightened up, determined to be all the more vigilant as

1775
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:22,880
their strength failed them. Virtue is not a sudden dazzle,

1776
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:27,000
but a slow, hard, and sometimes very painful conquest. They

1777
01:54:27,079 --> 01:54:30,479
had the superhuman joy of finally feeling victorious over their

1778
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:34,319
bodies and their thoughts. Their struggle tells us that happiness

1779
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:37,520
on earth and beyond the earth is within everyone's reach.

1780
01:54:38,079 --> 01:54:40,920
Every one of us has a choice to make. Before

1781
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:44,359
the body fails, it is the spirit that triumphs or capitulates.

1782
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:47,279
And even when the body has given way, the spirit

1783
01:54:47,399 --> 01:54:49,760
can lift it up or let it corrupt itself even

1784
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:53,880
more than poison itself. Forever we are our own masters.

1785
01:54:54,199 --> 01:54:57,239
We can sink into the chasms or stand in them

1786
01:54:57,399 --> 01:54:59,640
up to the shoulder, or climb out of them and

1787
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:03,239
over come them. Everything can be avoided, and everything can

1788
01:55:03,319 --> 01:55:09,399
be done. Part twelve, The Eternal Crucifixion. Faced with the

1789
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:14,279
contemptuous ironies of Hedonis and skeptics, one hardly dares to

1790
01:55:14,359 --> 01:55:17,840
recall that for two thousand years the greatest human drama,

1791
01:55:18,079 --> 01:55:21,359
that of the Passion, has been spiritually repeated each spring.

1792
01:55:22,199 --> 01:55:25,199
Who will suffer? Who will be there near cavalry? In

1793
01:55:25,279 --> 01:55:29,000
these new days of agony? In the desert of time

1794
01:55:29,119 --> 01:55:33,359
stands the cross. The mundane, shady, and perverse life of

1795
01:55:33,479 --> 01:55:36,720
men flows on like a dull river. Christ will receive

1796
01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:39,399
the blows in the thorns. He will collapse to the ground.

1797
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:43,119
The wood of the cross will crush, crush his flesh.

1798
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:46,880
The hammer will strike great blows against the hard beams.

1799
01:55:47,399 --> 01:55:49,640
They pierced my hands, in my feet, I can count

1800
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:54,159
all my bones. What will the world know? His blood

1801
01:55:54,159 --> 01:55:56,960
will slowly come down on his pale body. His eyes

1802
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:59,680
will seek both his father and our souls. What will

1803
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:03,079
our souls understand about this tragedy? They have not shuddered

1804
01:56:03,199 --> 01:56:07,560
or cried, nor even thought about it, nor seen Christ

1805
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:12,840
moves well alone alone, The souls sleep or are sterile

1806
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,680
or have committed suicide. While it is to pull them

1807
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:19,680
out of their torpor, mud and death that this body

1808
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:24,199
hangs between heaven and earth in pain. The distress of

1809
01:56:24,279 --> 01:56:28,439
this heart mainly launches a launches a cry of despair,

1810
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,279
which should freeze the earth and stop the breath of men.

1811
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:34,479
Yet it is because a man's spiritual suffocation that the

1812
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:38,439
world is falling apart. It is hope, charity, justice, humility

1813
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:41,000
that the world needs to find fresh air. We have

1814
01:56:41,159 --> 01:56:44,520
received this spiritual life as a gift. We are the bearers.

1815
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:47,359
And our hands are dangling at our sides, and our

1816
01:56:47,399 --> 01:56:50,079
eyes are dry, and our lips do not tremble in

1817
01:56:50,199 --> 01:56:53,800
fervor and emotion. Our hearts are like dry sand. Our

1818
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:57,239
souls lay lifeless where they died. Faith is worth anything

1819
01:56:57,359 --> 01:56:59,800
only as long as it conquers love, as long as

1820
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:07,039
it burns charity, as long as it saves Part thirteen nobody.

1821
01:57:08,119 --> 01:57:11,000
A palm tree trembles, the sand slides between the tan

1822
01:57:11,159 --> 01:57:14,920
fingers of a child. Lambs marked with blood collide with

1823
01:57:15,039 --> 01:57:19,359
stubborn little foreheads. Tiny donkeys' eyes wet come down from

1824
01:57:19,399 --> 01:57:23,039
the hill. The easter lands escape, clean and shiny, The

1825
01:57:23,119 --> 01:57:26,079
air is still fresh. Daisies are scattered on the hillside.

1826
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,520
Why does Christ again suffer the most heartbreaking agony in

1827
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:33,399
these days when fans of mimosa flowers decorate the twisting roads,

1828
01:57:34,399 --> 01:57:37,720
These clear, warm roads bring him back every year, silent

1829
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,880
in agony, to the nails and thorns, to the blood

1830
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:45,039
and sput them. Lord, we are following you and your

1831
01:57:45,159 --> 01:57:48,840
dusty procession, mingled with those rough and cowardly fishermen who

1832
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:52,560
loved you, but who loved you like us with measure,

1833
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:55,079
as if measure was not an insult to your love.

1834
01:57:56,199 --> 01:57:59,119
We are like unto them, no worse than others. Our

1835
01:57:59,199 --> 01:58:03,439
eyes sometimes beaming with joy in serving you, we dismiss intruders,

1836
01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:05,960
We wave the palms. We believe we are very close

1837
01:58:06,039 --> 01:58:08,560
to your heart. We think ourselves better than we are

1838
01:58:09,399 --> 01:58:11,840
in your sad eyes. It is our vanity that we project,

1839
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:15,279
and in this hour of agony, because our love hung

1840
01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:19,039
always by a thread, we will turn away from your wounds,

1841
01:58:19,239 --> 01:58:22,119
your blood and sweat, and that great icy cry that

1842
01:58:22,159 --> 01:58:25,319
will pierce the earth. Lord, We're coming back to your

1843
01:58:25,359 --> 01:58:28,239
blued feet. We clasped this wood of the cross between

1844
01:58:28,319 --> 01:58:31,119
our trembling arms. How dare we look up at your

1845
01:58:31,119 --> 01:58:34,680
bloody head. We dare do nothing but extend our dismayed

1846
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,560
hearts to you. It would have been so sweet to

1847
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:40,079
give our souls to you in a complete act, to

1848
01:58:40,199 --> 01:58:42,159
be with you from the garden of olives to this

1849
01:58:42,359 --> 01:58:45,560
mound where you hang inert in the evening wind. We

1850
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:48,399
did not even have the fate of the penitent thief,

1851
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:51,680
the one who loved you last, who regarded you as

1852
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:55,680
he fell into heaven. We suffer the overwhelming force of

1853
01:58:55,720 --> 01:59:01,079
our weaknesses, our cowardice, our tepidy, our tipidity. Lord, you

1854
01:59:01,199 --> 01:59:03,760
brought us to the essential and the eternal, the blood

1855
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,479
and the drink, the breath and the sun. You animated

1856
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:10,159
our hearts. You gave us strength. We should have jumped.

1857
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:14,000
We should have jumped light with heart and celebration, freed

1858
01:59:14,079 --> 01:59:18,000
forever from all bond all regret, all other hope. Yet

1859
01:59:18,039 --> 01:59:21,399
we remained fearful, hidden in the shadow of a doorway

1860
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:25,079
or under the bright olive tree. You went crushed and

1861
01:59:25,159 --> 01:59:28,880
overwhelmed with insults. Ah, my God, in these minutes of

1862
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:31,880
pain and salvation, we have not grasped the cross. We

1863
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:35,239
have not kissed your wounds and your thorns, put to flight,

1864
01:59:35,359 --> 01:59:39,279
your put to flight. Your executioners broken their whips, refuted

1865
01:59:39,319 --> 01:59:42,600
their insults. We did not know how to love. At

1866
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:45,239
the moment of this complete giving, our hearts were lifeless.

1867
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:49,039
My God, there you are abandoned by all, silent and dismal,

1868
01:59:49,279 --> 01:59:53,399
stiff limbed, there was nobody. Nobody. We squeezed the dead

1869
01:59:53,439 --> 01:59:56,760
wood and depart without raising our heads, laying our defeated

1870
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:59,760
hearts at your feet. You'll return to the light. Lord,

1871
02:00:00,399 --> 02:00:03,279
at this hour, have mercy on the destroyed souls. Have

1872
02:00:03,439 --> 02:00:06,960
mercy on empty souls. We suffer so much from our

1873
02:00:07,079 --> 02:00:11,319
mean and vile sentiments, so imbued with ourselves, so preoccupied

1874
02:00:11,359 --> 02:00:16,239
with our selfishness, our ambitions, our vanities. We let you suffer.

1875
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:21,720
We saw your blood flow, saw you plant your cross,

1876
02:00:22,239 --> 02:00:25,119
saw the life fade from your face. Will we ever

1877
02:00:25,279 --> 02:00:27,520
dare to look upon your open wounds and to meet

1878
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:30,600
your weary eyes? Lord, The hour is near. Your light

1879
02:00:30,640 --> 02:00:33,680
will suddenly burst forth upon the hill. We will still

1880
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:36,640
be there, ashamed and sad. Burn our hearts with your

1881
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:39,720
dazzling sweetness. Give us the warmth and purity of this

1882
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:43,800
divine fire from which you will spring. We are overwhelmed

1883
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:46,720
at the threshold of your tomb Lord, make the spark

1884
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:49,279
of the resurrection bloom in our defeated souls.

1885
02:00:50,159 --> 02:00:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, this book is essentially it's probably nine Christian

1886
02:00:57,039 --> 02:01:04,239
apologetics and and beatification of the murders by a layman.

1887
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And this is a this is like a s S

1888
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officer you know who wrote this. And again it I

1889
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:15,479
mean I realized there was very must like a Catholic

1890
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:19,840
moment of a sort in in Francophone Europe underway, which

1891
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:23,159
was the girl's culture. But it you know that, But

1892
02:01:23,239 --> 02:01:26,239
this wasn't accidental. And again, you know, the girl wasn't

1893
02:01:26,279 --> 02:01:32,319
some outlier. You know, the the understanding of uh, you know,

1894
02:01:32,479 --> 02:01:41,119
martyrdom being uh being the essential vocation of the racial

1895
02:01:41,199 --> 02:01:44,439
patriot or the holy warrior, and you know, the understanding

1896
02:01:44,479 --> 02:01:50,840
of the understanding the ability to live historically being an

1897
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:55,520
extricately bound up to man's confrontation with death, you know,

1898
02:01:55,680 --> 02:02:02,079
and and you know, religious faith, you know, being the

1899
02:02:02,199 --> 02:02:04,319
only way not just the man comes to terms with that,

1900
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:07,000
but I mean comes to understand it, you know, like

1901
02:02:07,079 --> 02:02:12,680
that's really the only like the like the metaphysical discourse

1902
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:17,119
on man's relationship to death is is is his religious confession? Okay?

1903
02:02:18,119 --> 02:02:22,000
You know, and again, the girl wasn't. The girl wasn't

1904
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just this kind of like random guy you know who

1905
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:25,840
ended up on the Eastern Front or something. I mean,

1906
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:29,920
he had he was a war hero, he had serious cloud.

1907
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:32,479
He'd met Hitler personally, and like he was known to

1908
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:39,159
Hitler personally. You know, he had NCIG been realized, he

1909
02:02:39,199 --> 02:02:45,520
almost undoubtedly would have been, you know, one of the

1910
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most powerful men in what was formerly Belgium, you know

1911
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what I mean, Like he was. He was a guy

1912
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with serious cloud, you know, within the kind of the

1913
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:58,760
the greater, the Greater Reich. And and he's also like

1914
02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:02,640
in a secondary sense too, which shows you how it

1915
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:06,439
shows you the degree to which, you know, what was

1916
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:10,840
animating the Third Reich was very much becoming a European movement.

1917
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:12,560
I mean, the seeds of that were always kind of

1918
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:16,920
president just doing to geostrategic realities and and kind of

1919
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:20,560
the shrinking of of the world into kind of like

1920
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:24,479
one place, as it were conceptually. But you know, this

1921
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:26,359
idea that like, oh there was this sho there was

1922
02:03:26,399 --> 02:03:31,439
this you know, chauvinistic kind of like backward looking nationalist party,

1923
02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:34,560
you know, capital and nationalist party in the NSDAP, but

1924
02:03:35,399 --> 02:03:37,560
you know, just kind of like out of military necessity,

1925
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:41,039
you knows, came about and some of these European guys

1926
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:43,319
you know, decided they were going to get theirs too,

1927
02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:48,520
and you know, kind of forced acknowledgment of of of

1928
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:51,319
their own you know, nations and government. So that's that's

1929
02:03:51,399 --> 02:03:55,880
not the case at all, you know, it's you got

1930
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:59,319
to look at national socialist socialism as a European phenomenon,

1931
02:03:59,439 --> 02:04:02,079
and you got to look at the Grell specifically as

1932
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:05,720
you know, like an exemplar of you know, kind of

1933
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:10,800
the the European and SS, you know, as as well

1934
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:17,520
as uh, you know, Francophone fascism. But you know, everything, everything,

1935
02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:22,800
every everything, every testament. This man ever put the paper

1936
02:04:23,119 --> 02:04:29,359
was absolutely inundated with his Catholic faith. You know. Yeah,

1937
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I just want to insinuate.

1938
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Speaker 1: That perfect part nine or is yeah, where am I at?

1939
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:37,840
Part part?

1940
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:40,399
Speaker 2: Is that? As part fourteen? Yeah?

1941
02:04:40,439 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 1: How do I? How have I forgotten in my old

1942
02:04:43,079 --> 02:04:44,880
age to read Roman numerals?

1943
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:46,079
Speaker 2: They can be confusing? Man?

1944
02:04:47,119 --> 02:04:47,840
Speaker 1: Thank you so honest.

1945
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:50,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Just think just think of the Super Bowl.

1946
02:04:53,479 --> 02:04:54,680
I think when I'm like, okay, now what is the

1947
02:04:54,680 --> 02:04:55,560
ex simple way? Okay?

1948
02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:59,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is the only time anybody uses the vermneuvererals

1949
02:04:59,159 --> 02:05:00,720
anymore as a freaking it's you know, it's.

1950
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:04,039
Speaker 2: Like on the street and shy town, like for ten

1951
02:05:04,079 --> 02:05:06,560
dollars worth of drugs, where a ten dollars bill like

1952
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:09,760
street dog is still a saw book because literally like

1953
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:12,239
an X looks like a sawhorse, so like the last

1954
02:05:12,319 --> 02:05:14,319
hundred years in the street like a ten or ten

1955
02:05:14,359 --> 02:05:17,039
dollars or like a little bit of drugs saw book.

1956
02:05:17,439 --> 02:05:21,159
It's like weird that's endured. That's so funny. Yeah, yeah,

1957
02:05:22,079 --> 02:05:22,439
all right.

1958
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Speaker 1: This is the last part of Part three. Last section

1959
02:05:26,079 --> 02:05:29,800
of Part three. Two have loved. In the icy, pale

1960
02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:33,239
gold sky, a lark quivered. What was she thinking up there?

1961
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:39,760
She shuddered, She uttered, strident cries, swooning every yeah, swooning

1962
02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:42,600
every second, clinging to the sky with a flutter of

1963
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:45,840
wings that passed like a lightning bolt. She loved to

1964
02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:49,079
love until broken, Broken with happiness, She felt like a

1965
02:05:49,119 --> 02:05:52,720
pebble in a furrow. So does the soul soar she

1966
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:57,520
cries of love. She remains, She remains, suspended in mystical immensity,

1967
02:05:58,039 --> 02:06:01,520
only by the wonder of invisible wings support her. She

1968
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:04,640
no longer even knows that she can fall, that the

1969
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:09,039
ground is under her. She is there detached from everything, trembling, pulsating,

1970
02:06:09,399 --> 02:06:13,039
as if speaking. The lark swooning upon the warm earth

1971
02:06:13,159 --> 02:06:16,680
must also feel, must also feel this great joy of

1972
02:06:16,760 --> 02:06:21,079
fulfilled love. The soul is panting. Love returns and waves

1973
02:06:21,159 --> 02:06:25,319
and breaks into effort, giving and joy. The great tragedy

1974
02:06:25,359 --> 02:06:28,039
of sin, which causes so much suffering, is that on

1975
02:06:28,119 --> 02:06:31,319
account of it we give less of ourselves, or give badly,

1976
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:34,520
offering only a portion of what we might have, a

1977
02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:38,840
portion with hints of indelible defilement. To love is to give,

1978
02:06:39,319 --> 02:06:42,760
and to give is to give everything. The punishment for

1979
02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:46,359
falling is the pain of having trampled on your love,

1980
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:50,159
of having reduced the love you might have given. If

1981
02:06:50,239 --> 02:06:53,239
only we could remove from our bodies, our hands, our eyes,

1982
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:56,039
these forces that pulse in them at the hours of

1983
02:06:56,119 --> 02:07:01,319
weakness and objection, too late, much to our shoes, we

1984
02:07:01,439 --> 02:07:04,239
may cry all the tears in the world. No matter what,

1985
02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:08,279
we can never recover that which we so carelessly lost

1986
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:12,000
the day of the fall, despite all our repentance and remission,

1987
02:07:12,319 --> 02:07:15,199
or remain the black hole into which the good of

1988
02:07:15,279 --> 02:07:18,520
the world is eternally lost. We may endeavor to love

1989
02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:21,960
thereafter as ardently as we can. Yet we will not

1990
02:07:22,119 --> 02:07:25,319
create the lost. We will not recreate the lost purity,

1991
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:29,039
nor regain the most beautiful part of love which was annihilated.

1992
02:07:29,439 --> 02:07:32,479
Our love could have been so much greater what we

1993
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:34,920
yet possessed to offer at the hour of the highest

1994
02:07:35,039 --> 02:07:39,000
Love will carry whatever we do this terrible mark. This

1995
02:07:39,159 --> 02:07:42,520
is why, having profaned his gift of self, makes the

1996
02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:45,680
heart which yearns for the absolute suffer until the end

1997
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:49,159
of life. We would like to be God ourselves, to

1998
02:07:49,279 --> 02:07:51,880
take back this day or these times, to give them

1999
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:54,720
the freshness of dawn, and to guard them fearfully until

2000
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:58,279
the night. From the first misstep, we know that we

2001
02:07:58,359 --> 02:08:01,159
will no longer love as much as we could have.

2002
02:08:02,359 --> 02:08:05,399
That is what makes repentance, because it cannot repair a

2003
02:08:05,479 --> 02:08:10,239
broken man so heartbreaking. When we have known this pain

2004
02:08:10,479 --> 02:08:13,880
of the irreparable, we seek beyond the possibilities of our heart,

2005
02:08:14,359 --> 02:08:17,399
so that a few moments of sublime love, seized upon

2006
02:08:17,560 --> 02:08:21,159
with great effort, can compensate what fell in the swamps

2007
02:08:21,399 --> 02:08:28,640
and in the shadows. Part four, The Joy of Men,

2008
02:08:30,199 --> 02:08:33,920
Part fifteen, Strong and Hard. The sun is gone. In

2009
02:08:34,039 --> 02:08:36,880
half an hour it will be shade. The birds who

2010
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:41,359
sang madly in the gardens perceive it. There are roses everywhere,

2011
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:44,439
so gorged with light that they will soon perish. The

2012
02:08:44,479 --> 02:08:48,119
wood is already sleeping around a few tiled roofs. As always,

2013
02:08:48,239 --> 02:08:50,640
the birds now begin to utter their sharp cries and

2014
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:54,119
their pleas. No doubt for the two lovers sitting there, dreamy,

2015
02:08:54,399 --> 02:08:57,560
with a huge white hat lying across their knees, all

2016
02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:01,439
of life seems condensed here. Nothing lives apart from these birds,

2017
02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:03,680
this dog which barks at the end of the world,

2018
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:06,439
and that these two hearts, which steadily beat in the

2019
02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:10,560
evening calm, heavy with the vibration of June. How can

2020
02:09:10,640 --> 02:09:13,680
one believe in hatred? Has one never seen the last

2021
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:16,760
roses go dim in the light evening silence. We will

2022
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:19,479
have to tear ourselves away from this great country oasis.

2023
02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:22,600
Later it will be necessary to take again at the

2024
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:25,520
end of the path, the road where the cars tear

2025
02:09:25,640 --> 02:09:28,920
up the ground through a sputtering, relentless rain. There will

2026
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:33,760
be brutal lights, empty faces, soulless eyes. This evening landscape

2027
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:37,479
is so clear, it is given with such a complete generosity,

2028
02:09:38,079 --> 02:09:41,920
These dying roses, these bouquets of trees, these oat field

2029
02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:45,439
shimmering and gray, these gray fir trees are so pure

2030
02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:49,159
and so simple that a childlike wonder arises in our beings.

2031
02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:53,560
Near this eternal youth of grasses, trees and flowers, we

2032
02:09:53,640 --> 02:09:58,079
cannot hear anything anymore. The night slicks down the roses, and.

2033
02:09:58,119 --> 02:10:01,680
Speaker 2: Then in this heighten this Heidegger and Heidegers ontology, like

2034
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:06,039
all over there. You know the the immediately present, the

2035
02:10:06,359 --> 02:10:12,119
sensus presence of the immediate. You know human consciousness, you know,

2036
02:10:13,319 --> 02:10:16,399
constituting what it is to live. You know historically you live,

2037
02:10:16,439 --> 02:10:18,960
You know as a European is as simple as you

2038
02:10:19,039 --> 02:10:23,600
know what what? What the grill just described?

2039
02:10:23,880 --> 02:10:28,840
Speaker 1: You know in that in that passage, the woods cut

2040
02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:32,039
their jaggets silhouette, and the dying gleams. The last singing

2041
02:10:32,119 --> 02:10:34,600
bird stops, as if he too, from time to time,

2042
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:38,399
must simply listen to the silence. The two lovers have disappeared,

2043
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:41,479
hands trembling a light wind in their hair. I should

2044
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:45,039
move on. I will go slowly, without disturbing the branches

2045
02:10:45,079 --> 02:10:47,680
and the variety of life which slides through the shadows.

2046
02:10:48,079 --> 02:10:50,840
I will guess the outline of things. I will feel

2047
02:10:50,920 --> 02:10:53,359
the dew blooming at the end of the grass, which

2048
02:10:53,399 --> 02:10:56,319
will refresh the sun tomorrow when it climbs the top

2049
02:10:56,359 --> 02:10:59,600
of the world, top of the wood, where is the

2050
02:11:00,039 --> 02:11:02,800
night of hearts, from which the tender morning would spring.

2051
02:11:03,479 --> 02:11:06,199
We will have to renew our sorrows, resume our journeys

2052
02:11:06,199 --> 02:11:09,560
through the fields and lost woods among cold hearts. Who

2053
02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:13,439
will understand later in the savage glimmers before our trembling eyes,

2054
02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:16,079
that we have just left the forest and the wheat fields,

2055
02:11:16,279 --> 02:11:19,520
the shade and the silence. But why falter at the

2056
02:11:19,640 --> 02:11:22,479
end of the path we watch as cruel life snatches

2057
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:26,560
everything up in wolf's teeth. In wolf's teeth, we no

2058
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:29,800
longer look at anything, We no longer think, We no

2059
02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:33,520
longer breathe this air, charged with a sense of passing death.

2060
02:11:34,119 --> 02:11:38,239
Put out the lights, Let the night weigh upon our hearts. Tomorrow,

2061
02:11:38,359 --> 02:11:41,000
when daybreak reaches the crest of the trees, we will

2062
02:11:41,039 --> 02:11:44,239
have before us only the closed horizon of man. We

2063
02:11:44,359 --> 02:11:47,399
will have to be strong and hard, joyful through nothing

2064
02:11:47,439 --> 02:11:51,039
but the radiance of our souls. Dying evening, silent and

2065
02:11:51,119 --> 02:11:53,760
sure of dawn. Give us the peace of awaiting the

2066
02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:57,840
light that is reborn renewed from the immense and auspicious night.

2067
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:04,000
The price of life, we must reiterate the price of life.

2068
02:12:04,359 --> 02:12:07,000
Life is the admirable instrument put in our hands with

2069
02:12:07,119 --> 02:12:11,600
which we forge our wills, raise consciences, and build a

2070
02:12:11,720 --> 02:12:16,039
monument of reason and of heart. Life is not a

2071
02:12:16,119 --> 02:12:20,279
form of sadness, but joy made flesh. Joy of being useful,

2072
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:23,720
Joy of mastering what could demean or weaken us, Joy

2073
02:12:23,800 --> 02:12:27,000
of acting and giving, Joy of loving all that trembles

2074
02:12:27,199 --> 02:12:30,880
spirit and matter, because everything under the impetus of a

2075
02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:35,319
righteous life rises, lightens, instead of weighing down. You have

2076
02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:39,239
to love life. Sometimes in times of weariness and discuss

2077
02:12:39,399 --> 02:12:42,319
we nearly lose our love of life. You have to

2078
02:12:42,359 --> 02:12:46,079
pull yourself together, straighten up. Too many men are debased,

2079
02:12:46,640 --> 02:12:50,079
but alongside, in an opposition to those whose baseness is

2080
02:12:50,159 --> 02:12:53,000
a blasphemy to life, there are all those who see

2081
02:12:53,279 --> 02:12:56,399
or don't see, who redeem the world and bring honor

2082
02:12:56,479 --> 02:13:04,039
to all life. Seventeen disfoliation. Happiness born of ignorance is

2083
02:13:04,079 --> 02:13:08,159
not flattering. It is a kind of narrow, vegetative happiness.

2084
02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:11,199
Intelligence has nothing to do with it, and neither does

2085
02:13:11,239 --> 02:13:14,039
the body. True happiness, happiness.

2086
02:13:13,640 --> 02:13:14,279
Speaker 2: Worthy of man.

2087
02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:17,279
Speaker 1: That which raises him up is the happiness assured by

2088
02:13:17,319 --> 02:13:20,359
the spirit, happiness born by the stripping of the soul.

2089
02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:23,760
From the renunciation of the soul in contemplation of human

2090
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pleasures is always made or broken by circumstances. Happy is

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he who is not a slave to circumstances, he who

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knows how to enjoy pleasure as well as privation, as

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long as one suffers from such a deprivation, as long

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as one suffers. By comparing his material fate to others,

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we are neither happy nor free to remain in good spirits,

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even to live with one soul apart from the world,

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when the exterior universe holds nothing but a yawning void.

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To live intensely in this material absence, to live without regret,

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master of your desires, having bent them to the complete

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domination of the Spirit, marks the victory of man, the true,

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the only victory, next to which the greatest conquests and

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dominions are merely caricatures of power. Any comparison seems laughable

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next to the liberation brought by the mastery of the

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Spirit over our possessions, our needs, and our chains. We

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are freed from the old rusty chains that rivetted us

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to mediocre conformities. We hold destiny in our hands, destiny

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clearly discovered in its liberating nudity. Happiness can be borne everywhere.

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It comes not from without but from within us, holding

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within it infinite possibility. Eighteen. The power of joy. There

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are so many things that can bring you joy. Even

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when through our strength we are free of our desires,

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we are happy. Just the joy of living is itself

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so powerful. Joy of having a radiant heart. The joy

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of having a sturdy heart, arms and legs as hard

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as trees, lungs that draw life and air. Joy of

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having eyes that take on colors and shapes in their

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soft curves. Joy of thinking, of spending hours drawing out

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the straight lines of reason, or feasting on dreams. Joy

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of believing, joy of loving, of giving oneself, of striding

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through life flexible as water. How can one be unhappy?

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It is so simple, so basic, so natural. Through the

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worst calamities, happiness always bursts forth like a geyser, which

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we try to obstruct in vain happiness in life for

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02:15:34,720 --> 02:15:37,399
the same thing. To be no longer happy is to

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doubt one's body, the warmth of one's blood, the consuming

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02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:43,439
fire of one's heart. To doubt these great lights of

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02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:48,079
the spirit which bathe all of existence. Even misfortune still

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02:15:48,119 --> 02:15:50,760
brings us to joys of the soul, which gives its

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own blood, which weighs out its sacrifice, which feels deeply

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02:15:54,760 --> 02:15:59,800
miss which feels deeply misfortune's bitter sting, a cruel joy

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02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:02,560
at a higher joy, a joy reserve for the man

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02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:04,439
who's broken heart understands.

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Speaker 2: And that's I I can't emphasize enough if one's looking

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for something a little bit less remote to apply to

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their own circumstances. That's not to say that once you

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read plitical philosophy in order to discern, you know, prosaic

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in order to discerain remedies to compare to the prosaic problems.

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02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:27,000
But there really, there is no such thing as a

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bad experience one hundred percent. Like that's not that's that

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02:16:32,559 --> 02:16:36,000
that's not just a cliche or something that you know,

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02:16:36,440 --> 02:16:41,920
religious people pull out to, you know, in the phase

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02:16:41,959 --> 02:16:46,440
of challenges too. You know how one's supposed to negotiate

2143
02:16:47,360 --> 02:16:54,799
horror and pain in in everyday life. You know, I don't,

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02:16:56,040 --> 02:16:57,840
I don't. I don't regret anything that's happened to me

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02:16:58,000 --> 02:17:01,440
because it brought me to this point. And I mean,

2146
02:17:01,520 --> 02:17:05,760
my life now is incredible. I never thought that where

2147
02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:08,879
I'm at now would be possible, and I'm just unbelievably blessed.

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02:17:08,920 --> 02:17:14,079
But you know, I my life was horrible, I mean

2149
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for for years, you know, And I don't I don't

2150
02:17:17,840 --> 02:17:21,479
regret that, Like, I learned more during that period, and

2151
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I came became firmer in my faith during that period

2152
02:17:26,319 --> 02:17:31,440
than would have been possible otherwise. And it also, you know,

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02:17:32,479 --> 02:17:36,959
owing to the proximity of death, because the life style

2154
02:17:37,079 --> 02:17:40,079
I was living, it forced me to contemplate it in

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02:17:40,280 --> 02:17:43,159
very immediate terms in a way that I otherwise probably

2156
02:17:43,159 --> 02:17:44,840
would not have because I was quite a bit younger

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02:17:44,879 --> 02:17:50,239
than you know, And that just kind of whether you

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02:17:50,360 --> 02:17:56,360
want to or not, you you develop a tendency towards

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02:17:58,440 --> 02:18:02,559
contemplation of a few ideological principles, you know, and unless

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02:18:02,559 --> 02:18:04,559
you're truly like a dullart or something like, when you're

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02:18:04,639 --> 02:18:08,520
within such circumstances. So, I mean, I can't emphasize enough

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02:18:08,639 --> 02:18:14,760
that there's practical value in reading things like de Grill.

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02:18:14,840 --> 02:18:17,000
You're not just you're not just doing a credit to

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02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:21,319
our forebears. If in fact, you know you're you're committed

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to these ideological principles like I am, you know you're

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02:18:25,680 --> 02:18:32,600
also you're you're also you know, contributing to the strengthen

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02:18:32,680 --> 02:18:36,079
of your own piety and faith by by studying such things.

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That's all I wanted to say.

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Speaker 1: All right, nineteen to dream, to think. The hours of

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dreams are hours of profound life, where all the poetry

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02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:48,360
that floats in our consciousness gets up and runs and lists.

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02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:52,159
Then the sun comes, the snowy fog descends, as if

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02:18:52,239 --> 02:18:55,200
called down by the river, we see before us the bright,

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02:18:55,479 --> 02:18:59,559
clear sort of water, and reason reorders and assembles this

2175
02:19:00,079 --> 02:19:04,719
scattered discoveries sprung from the dream, unifies them under its dominion.

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02:19:06,360 --> 02:19:09,840
Joy to find, to compare, Joy of giving meaning and direction,

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02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:12,719
Joy of understanding and of scaling the slopes in the

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02:19:12,760 --> 02:19:16,120
summits of the true, the beautiful, and the useful. The

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02:19:16,239 --> 02:19:19,719
mind orders it into clear parallel lines and extracts the

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02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:23,440
laws revealed within. Man feels then that he is master

2181
02:19:23,559 --> 02:19:26,920
of all the elements, master of this disproportionate universe, where

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02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:29,920
his brain, no bigger than a bird or a fallen fruit,

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02:19:30,239 --> 02:19:35,559
imposes a comprehensive order and harmony. Whoever does not know

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02:19:35,680 --> 02:19:38,879
how to enjoy the possibilities of dreaming and thinking offered

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02:19:38,920 --> 02:19:42,799
to man every second, ignores the nobility of life. We

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02:19:42,920 --> 02:19:47,559
can always be enchanted, for dreams are secret cellos. One

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02:19:47,639 --> 02:19:50,600
can always think, that is to say, having the mind

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02:19:50,719 --> 02:19:55,840
not only occupied, but vibrant, tending towards a domination more powerful,

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02:19:56,079 --> 02:19:59,399
more exhilarating than the fire of a thousand desires. To

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02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:01,799
be bored, to give up the dream and the spirit.

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02:20:02,479 --> 02:20:05,799
Boredom is the disease of empty souls and brains. Life

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02:20:05,920 --> 02:20:10,200
quickly becomes a horribly dull chore. Love itself is exalted

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02:20:10,319 --> 02:20:14,079
and amazed only to the extent that the superior being nourishes.

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02:20:14,479 --> 02:20:18,879
The superior being nourishes Poetry strengthens the impulses of sensitivity.

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02:20:19,600 --> 02:20:25,319
One must still dream and ponder over their love twenty Patience.

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02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:29,120
Patience is the first of victories, victory over one's self,

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02:20:29,239 --> 02:20:32,639
over one's nerves, over one's weaknesses. As long as we

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02:20:32,760 --> 02:20:36,719
have not acquired it, life is only a cascade of capitulations,

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capitulations made in struggle, certainly crying out in what we

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02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:44,639
perceive to be manifestations of authority, but which are in

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02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:50,360
fact only an abdication to petty pride. To be patient

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02:20:51,120 --> 02:20:53,959
is to wait for one's hour finger to the trigger

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02:20:54,159 --> 02:20:57,079
as one watches for prey. It is to build each

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02:20:57,159 --> 02:21:00,000
of the day's actions and consideration of order and balance,

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02:21:00,600 --> 02:21:04,479
laying carefully the foundation stones that will support the building.

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02:21:05,399 --> 02:21:09,479
Patience delivers the joy of not having given in Impatience

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02:21:09,559 --> 02:21:12,559
leaves to heart with the reproach of having been exiled

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02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:15,200
and of having been the author of vanity and vain

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agitation twenty one Obedience. No great work is accomplished in

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02:21:22,319 --> 02:21:25,639
selfishness and pride. Obeying is a joy because it is

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02:21:25,719 --> 02:21:30,520
a form of gift, of clairvoyant gift. Obeying is fruitful

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02:21:30,760 --> 02:21:34,520
multiplying the results of efforts tenfold. Obeying is a duty

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02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:38,200
because the common good depends on the discipline coming together

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02:21:38,360 --> 02:21:41,959
of many energies. Human society is not formed by a

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02:21:42,040 --> 02:21:45,280
cloud of fierce and fanciful mosquitoes rushing in the wind

2216
02:21:45,319 --> 02:21:48,120
according to their personal interest in their mood. It is

2217
02:21:48,200 --> 02:21:51,479
a large, sensitive complex. It is a large sensitive complex

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02:21:51,799 --> 02:21:55,879
made sterile in made sterile or dangerous by anarchy, to

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02:21:55,959 --> 02:22:00,639
which order and harmony give unlimited possibilities. A rich people

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02:22:00,680 --> 02:22:04,680
of millions in population but selfishly isolated and atomized is

2221
02:22:04,719 --> 02:22:09,319
a dead people. A poor people. Where everyone intelligently recognizes

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02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:12,719
their limits and their communal obligations, obeys, and works as

2223
02:22:12,760 --> 02:22:16,200
a team is a people with life. Obedience is the

2224
02:22:16,319 --> 02:22:19,920
highest form of the use of freedom. It is a

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02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:24,319
constant manifestation of authority, authority over oneself, the most difficult

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02:22:24,399 --> 02:22:27,559
of all. No one is really capable of commanding others.

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02:22:27,639 --> 02:22:30,840
Who is not first able to command himself to tame

2228
02:22:30,879 --> 02:22:33,159
in him the proud wanderer who would have liked to

2229
02:22:33,200 --> 02:22:38,760
throw himself madly into the winds of adventure. After having obeyed,

2230
02:22:38,840 --> 02:22:41,879
one may command not as a brute enjoying the right

2231
02:22:41,959 --> 02:22:45,280
to crush others, but because command is a magnificent prerogative

2232
02:22:46,239 --> 02:22:50,079
when it aims to discipline unruly forces, to lead them

2233
02:22:50,159 --> 02:22:53,959
to the fullness of obedience, to this superior source of joy.

2234
02:22:56,719 --> 02:22:57,239
Speaker 2: Twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Kindness sometimes a word, a single word, an affectionate gesture,

2236
02:23:03,280 --> 02:23:06,000
a look full of sincere friendship can save a man

2237
02:23:06,079 --> 02:23:09,319
on the brink of the abyss. By affection and by example,

2238
02:23:09,440 --> 02:23:13,239
we can do anything. Shouting and Storming about real rarely

2239
02:23:13,399 --> 02:23:16,079
leads to the source of problems. You have to be

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02:23:16,159 --> 02:23:19,200
good hearted, discover what is going on among the fog

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02:23:19,280 --> 02:23:22,399
of each heart. Temper the necessary reproach with a friendly

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02:23:22,520 --> 02:23:25,200
joke that gives hope. Always put yourself in the shoes

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02:23:25,239 --> 02:23:27,479
of the other, in the soul of the other. Think

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02:23:27,559 --> 02:23:30,440
of your personal reaction if you had received the observation,

2245
02:23:30,799 --> 02:23:34,200
the encouragement, the reprimand instead of addressing it to others.

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02:23:35,239 --> 02:23:38,159
Most of the men are grown ups, quite vicious, but

2247
02:23:38,319 --> 02:23:44,200
still sensitive toward tends towards affection. There are not thirty

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02:23:44,280 --> 02:23:47,319
six routes to guide them. There is only one, that

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02:23:47,479 --> 02:23:50,760
of the heart. The other roads sometimes seem easier to take,

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but ultimately they do not lead anywhere. Twenty three Happy isolation.

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02:23:58,440 --> 02:24:01,399
The company of others is most of the time nothing

2252
02:24:01,440 --> 02:24:06,959
but restlessness, noise, troubles, revolving around mutual loneliness. To constantly

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02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:09,520
search for what is called a stimulation is to be

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02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:12,920
afraid of being in the presence of yourself. It is,

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02:24:13,159 --> 02:24:17,520
in reality, to take flight morally. How can you confuse

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02:24:17,639 --> 02:24:20,600
joy with being constantly mixed up in the tumultuous crowd?

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02:24:21,360 --> 02:24:24,000
Why would one absolutely have to be swallowed up among

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02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:27,920
other beings to believe oneself happy? One is then only

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02:24:28,040 --> 02:24:30,959
in contact with the tree bark of others, one enjoys

2260
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:36,760
only their artificial or superficial attitudes. This can obviously give distraction,

2261
02:24:37,000 --> 02:24:39,799
temporary pleasure, a kind of breath of wind or fresh air.

2262
02:24:40,559 --> 02:24:44,159
But what a gulf between the shallow pleasure and the deep,

2263
02:24:45,079 --> 02:24:48,719
essential joy of conversation with yourself, the analysis of one's

2264
02:24:48,840 --> 02:24:53,799
own intimate thoughts and one's most secret sensitivity. There we

2265
02:24:53,879 --> 02:24:56,600
see everything. We go to the source of everything. To

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02:24:56,760 --> 02:24:59,799
deny the power the magnitude of this true joy is

2267
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:04,000
to deny whole, the whole inner life. Loneliness is a

2268
02:25:04,120 --> 02:25:06,959
wonderful opportunity for the soul to get to know itself

2269
02:25:07,120 --> 02:25:11,280
and to keep watch to learn. Only empty heads or

2270
02:25:11,360 --> 02:25:15,200
fickle hearts are afraid of remaining silent in front of themselves.

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02:25:16,760 --> 02:25:19,159
It is at such times that we see if our

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02:25:19,239 --> 02:25:22,000
feelings are solid or if they were nothing but noise.

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02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:27,079
High feelings can live alone without physical presence. On the contrary,

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02:25:27,399 --> 02:25:31,479
isolation purifies and grows them. The joy, the joy that

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02:25:31,559 --> 02:25:33,840
spreads like a block of granite under the water of

2276
02:25:33,959 --> 02:25:36,639
flowing life, the one that never gives up and which

2277
02:25:36,719 --> 02:25:40,600
never disappoints, lies in the inner struggle. In the inner exultation,

2278
02:25:41,159 --> 02:25:44,840
to watch over oneself, to dominate oneself, to purify oneself,

2279
02:25:44,920 --> 02:25:48,200
to rise, to have the courage to think because it

2280
02:25:48,319 --> 02:25:50,600
is so simple to be lazy or cowardly in the

2281
02:25:50,680 --> 02:25:55,040
face of spiritual work. Have the energy to expand inner

2282
02:25:55,440 --> 02:25:58,760
your hidden world. To love intensely, that is to say,

2283
02:25:58,879 --> 02:26:02,879
to give oneself silent without reluctance. We prefer to forget

2284
02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:05,840
or deny that these fundamental joys exist, to be satisfied

2285
02:26:05,879 --> 02:26:09,760
with immediate enjoyments that we believe to be superior to everything,

2286
02:26:10,120 --> 02:26:13,040
and after which we have nothing, very often if not

2287
02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:15,639
dust in the heart and a wilting of the wings.

2288
02:26:16,719 --> 02:26:20,200
The mystics have long known that this constant animation of

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02:26:20,239 --> 02:26:23,280
the interior life. Were they less happy? Did they have

2290
02:26:23,440 --> 02:26:27,760
less joy than we who chatter mingled with faces, where

2291
02:26:27,879 --> 02:26:31,399
we only discover appearances fed by words that die with

2292
02:26:31,520 --> 02:26:34,879
the echo. The joy of the mystics is just one example.

2293
02:26:35,399 --> 02:26:38,639
The same inner joy exists at other stages of spirituality

2294
02:26:38,680 --> 02:26:43,040
and sensitivity. The presence of others is not even essential

2295
02:26:43,120 --> 02:26:46,680
at all. One can perfectly love be possessed by the

2296
02:26:46,760 --> 02:26:49,680
highest joys of the heart in physical distance and even

2297
02:26:49,760 --> 02:26:52,680
in death, as long as we have not once freed

2298
02:26:52,719 --> 02:26:56,639
ourselves from external elements, as long as we have not

2299
02:26:56,760 --> 02:26:59,079
been able to live alone, that is to say, in

2300
02:26:59,159 --> 02:27:02,200
the most real come that nothing can disturb we have

2301
02:27:02,399 --> 02:27:06,319
not yet reached a very threshold of joy. Instead of

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02:27:06,399 --> 02:27:09,360
complaining about loneliness, you have to bless it. You have

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02:27:09,479 --> 02:27:13,120
to take advantage of this unexpected possibility of examining yourself

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02:27:13,159 --> 02:27:17,399
in silence and dominating yourself lucidly completely, even in your

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02:27:17,440 --> 02:27:22,159
most contradictory thoughts. Doors closed to the world, wilful termination

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02:27:22,319 --> 02:27:25,959
of the contract with out of wilful termination of contact

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02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:29,319
with the outside. So much the better, because it means,

2308
02:27:29,520 --> 02:27:32,799
if you like, doors open to the soul, exact contact

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02:27:32,840 --> 02:27:38,040
with oneself, exhilarating joys of knowledge, spiritual fulfillment, and mystically

2310
02:27:38,319 --> 02:27:43,479
the most delicate and complete gift. And this is the

2311
02:27:43,600 --> 02:27:49,879
last part. This is part twenty twenty four Grandeur. It

2312
02:27:50,000 --> 02:27:52,360
is often by doing this is the last part for

2313
02:27:52,520 --> 02:27:55,479
this section here. It is often by doing with maximum

2314
02:27:55,559 --> 02:27:59,239
nobility a thousand bothersome little things that you are great.

2315
02:28:00,079 --> 02:28:02,959
It is infinitely more difficult to stretch your soul a

2316
02:28:03,079 --> 02:28:06,280
thousand times every day without relief than to give a

2317
02:28:06,399 --> 02:28:09,399
single grand impulse at the moment of a visionary event,

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02:28:10,399 --> 02:28:15,959
merit to be given. There is slight. The magnitude of

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02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:18,920
the fleeting opportunity alone gives us the strength to act

2320
02:28:19,159 --> 02:28:22,959
and desire to the desire to astonish, while allowing us

2321
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:25,959
to have the highest opinion of ourselves. You can do

2322
02:28:26,040 --> 02:28:29,200
a great thing wonderfully and be far from real greatness.

2323
02:28:29,959 --> 02:28:33,319
Greatness is the nobility of the soul, wearing down, dripping

2324
02:28:33,399 --> 02:28:36,280
with the desire to give each according to our duties,

2325
02:28:36,479 --> 02:28:40,440
especially when they are stripped of those things that give

2326
02:28:40,680 --> 02:28:44,479
rise to vanity. For both women and men. Greatness for

2327
02:28:44,559 --> 02:28:46,879
a woman is often to give herself hour by hour

2328
02:28:47,000 --> 02:28:51,040
to dull even prosaic housework. Yet who will admire it?

2329
02:28:52,280 --> 02:28:54,959
Who will know the thousand battles fought in the bottom

2330
02:28:55,000 --> 02:28:58,440
of the heart, in laziness, in pride, in singing passions,

2331
02:28:58,639 --> 02:29:01,280
in the softness which cause the soul and the body

2332
02:29:01,559 --> 02:29:05,840
towards the warm sands of easy life. Who the one who,

2333
02:29:05,920 --> 02:29:12,639
despite all this advances, resists, progresses, progresses is great, since

2334
02:29:12,719 --> 02:29:16,120
the gift of herself was total, without requiring the vanity

2335
02:29:16,159 --> 02:29:20,440
of recognition. So many high status people always complain find

2336
02:29:20,559 --> 02:29:24,079
everything unpleasant never know how to rejoice frankly, of nothing.

2337
02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:28,280
Everything seems boring to them because they never give themselves up,

2338
02:29:28,399 --> 02:29:31,879
because they approach each moment even when it would require

2339
02:29:32,000 --> 02:29:35,799
only a small exertion, with the firm intention of delivering

2340
02:29:35,920 --> 02:29:40,120
only the bare minimum, and even with that reluctance, everything

2341
02:29:40,239 --> 02:29:43,440
is a question of giving freely. Happy people are those

2342
02:29:43,479 --> 02:29:46,840
who give themselves. The dissatisfied are those who strangle their

2343
02:29:46,879 --> 02:29:53,879
existence with a perpetual retraction, constantly wondering what they will lose. Virtue, greatness, happiness.

2344
02:29:54,280 --> 02:29:58,879
Everything revolves around that. Give yourself, give yourself completely all

2345
02:29:58,920 --> 02:30:03,159
the time. What you have to do bravely, with maximum application,

2346
02:30:03,719 --> 02:30:07,479
even if the object is merely housework without apparent grandeur.

2347
02:30:08,440 --> 02:30:12,000
Wherever you are above or below man or woman, the

2348
02:30:12,079 --> 02:30:15,520
problem is exactly the same. It is giving that differentiates

2349
02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:21,879
clear souls from troubled souls. And that's the end of

2350
02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:22,239
that part.

2351
02:30:23,319 --> 02:30:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's essential the monastic tradition. I mean there's a

2352
02:30:28,159 --> 02:30:34,120
lot there, I mean to the monastic tradition, but you

2353
02:30:34,239 --> 02:30:39,399
know the understanding that through silence and through introspection, that's

2354
02:30:39,440 --> 02:30:43,719
the way one comes to know God. That's something that

2355
02:30:44,040 --> 02:30:47,000
a lot of Protestant congregations have gotten away from and

2356
02:30:47,120 --> 02:30:56,520
that's really unfortunate. There's nothing intrinsic to dissenter faith structures

2357
02:30:56,559 --> 02:30:59,600
that that makes it axiomatic. Like if anything, I think

2358
02:30:59,680 --> 02:31:04,559
that you know, the the understanding, the inner witness you

2359
02:31:04,680 --> 02:31:09,680
find in Calvin basically says you should that that's you know,

2360
02:31:09,719 --> 02:31:13,479
that's that's basically like the core of of of faith

2361
02:31:13,559 --> 02:31:18,200
as as as a practice. But I I really enjoy

2362
02:31:18,360 --> 02:31:20,799
being around like people I love and who love me back,

2363
02:31:20,920 --> 02:31:25,879
and you know, enjoying that kind of community we've developed

2364
02:31:26,840 --> 02:31:29,399
among our peoples, Like it's fucking incredible, you know, Like

2365
02:31:29,440 --> 02:31:33,440
and I'm really really lucky. But I I I don't

2366
02:31:33,520 --> 02:31:35,360
just like being by myself a lot of the time,

2367
02:31:35,680 --> 02:31:39,000
Like I need to be by myself because that's you know,

2368
02:31:39,040 --> 02:31:41,920
it's a you're The mind is its own place in

2369
02:31:42,440 --> 02:31:45,559
ways that they're both good and bad and like beyond

2370
02:31:45,639 --> 02:31:48,239
bead Like that can be terrifying because it can create

2371
02:31:49,000 --> 02:31:52,040
an environment that's either not livable or that has been

2372
02:31:52,079 --> 02:31:58,280
compromised by by by by evil things. And some of

2373
02:31:58,319 --> 02:32:02,319
those things may be entities into themselves. I mean, I

2374
02:32:02,559 --> 02:32:04,440
that's a metaphysical question. I don't want to get into

2375
02:32:04,479 --> 02:32:08,559
on the tail end of our stream. But and in

2376
02:32:08,639 --> 02:32:10,559
the event, a lot of that. That's one of the

2377
02:32:10,879 --> 02:32:16,440
ways that people are kept under control by officialdom, you know, Uh,

2378
02:32:17,360 --> 02:32:22,399
is this inability of people to really be alone and

2379
02:32:22,559 --> 02:32:24,879
and to be alone properly. I mean, people are isolated,

2380
02:32:24,920 --> 02:32:26,600
but they don't not truly be alone, you know. That's

2381
02:32:26,600 --> 02:32:29,680
why they're always seeking out that. That's why, that's why

2382
02:32:29,760 --> 02:32:34,319
social media is like they're standing for you know, actual

2383
02:32:34,399 --> 02:32:39,040
social life and things. It's like it also an inability

2384
02:32:39,239 --> 02:32:42,799
of people to be alone with their own mind, you know.

2385
02:32:42,920 --> 02:32:46,360
And uh, I'm always talking about you know, my mind.

2386
02:32:46,399 --> 02:32:48,360
I think of it as an ice cathedral. It's other

2387
02:32:48,440 --> 02:32:52,079
things too, but you know that's like the the ice

2388
02:32:52,159 --> 02:32:55,040
cathedral is where I would draw into myself and uh.

2389
02:32:55,639 --> 02:32:59,399
With then it's perverbial walls. You know, I can I

2390
02:32:59,479 --> 02:33:02,600
can go any where, you know, like I not not

2391
02:33:02,719 --> 02:33:05,559
like actual projection in a literal sense, but you know,

2392
02:33:05,760 --> 02:33:10,040
praggately speaking, you know, I I I go all kinds

2393
02:33:10,040 --> 02:33:12,280
of places in my mind. And it's not because you know,

2394
02:33:12,399 --> 02:33:18,520
I'm some rarefied case, you know that. I suppose that's

2395
02:33:18,559 --> 02:33:20,079
what some people are up on, if they say they're

2396
02:33:20,079 --> 02:33:22,079
getting into meditation you know. I mean, it's like, Okay,

2397
02:33:22,079 --> 02:33:24,120
if people want to call it that, that's fine. I

2398
02:33:24,159 --> 02:33:27,879
think I think there's some hookey stuff attached to those interpretations,

2399
02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:31,959
But I'm not going to criticize anybody for, you know,

2400
02:33:32,200 --> 02:33:35,879
for welcoming or cultivating an impulse in that direction. Like

2401
02:33:35,920 --> 02:33:38,239
guess all I got for that? All right?

2402
02:33:38,959 --> 02:33:42,079
Speaker 1: Section five stop me any time, Thomas, I think you

2403
02:33:42,200 --> 02:33:45,879
may you may have some some comments on this section,

2404
02:33:46,159 --> 02:33:50,239
because this is part five Amand's Duty Notes from the

2405
02:33:50,319 --> 02:33:55,680
Eastern Front twenty five The great retreat. To die twenty

2406
02:33:55,799 --> 02:33:58,079
years too early or twenty years too late is of

2407
02:33:58,159 --> 02:34:01,280
no consequence. All that matters is to find a good death.

2408
02:34:02,079 --> 02:34:04,319
Only with this goal in mind can we truly begin

2409
02:34:04,440 --> 02:34:08,159
to live as a simple soldier. I would gladly die tomorrow.

2410
02:34:08,520 --> 02:34:11,120
The humility life of my lot in life at the

2411
02:34:11,200 --> 02:34:15,079
Front reconciled me such an outcome. Not having lived as

2412
02:34:15,120 --> 02:34:17,840
a saint, to die as a soldier's soul would be

2413
02:34:17,920 --> 02:34:22,159
the most suitable thing. Are my weeks numbered, then it

2414
02:34:22,280 --> 02:34:24,680
is best to make the most of these chances to

2415
02:34:24,760 --> 02:34:28,399
purify our souls. I once dreamed of dying after a

2416
02:34:28,479 --> 02:34:32,000
long illness to better prepare myself for the inevitable. But

2417
02:34:32,120 --> 02:34:34,920
such a death necessarily takes place in an atmosphere of

2418
02:34:34,959 --> 02:34:39,520
pollution on the front, our preparation takes place, and a

2419
02:34:39,559 --> 02:34:42,760
feeling of power in the unfolding of the will I

2420
02:34:42,879 --> 02:34:47,040
realize how lucky I am. Perhaps I return alive, more

2421
02:34:47,079 --> 02:34:51,840
alive than ever before. Either way, this great retreat, which

2422
02:34:51,959 --> 02:34:55,399
life or death will close will have been a blessing.

2423
02:34:55,680 --> 02:34:59,159
I enjoy it freely fully, like a nourishing and beautiful son.

2424
02:35:00,639 --> 02:35:04,360
Why should I tremble under its fire? The soldier learns

2425
02:35:04,399 --> 02:35:06,680
to be great among the most mundane or the most

2426
02:35:06,719 --> 02:35:11,280
painful things. Heroism is to stand, to struggle, to be

2427
02:35:11,399 --> 02:35:15,159
always alert, happy and strong, and nameless, unrecognized misery of

2428
02:35:15,239 --> 02:35:18,280
the front, in the mud, the excrement, the corpses, the

2429
02:35:18,399 --> 02:35:21,719
mist of the water and snow, the endless and colorless fields,

2430
02:35:21,920 --> 02:35:26,040
the total absence of outer joy. Every day we move

2431
02:35:26,120 --> 02:35:29,159
further away from the blissful world of yesteryear? Are we

2432
02:35:29,280 --> 02:35:32,840
not already half dead? We who advance, gritting our teeth

2433
02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:36,959
through the mists, always look at those who have less

2434
02:35:37,040 --> 02:35:40,079
than you, and rejoice in what you have, Never lusting

2435
02:35:40,120 --> 02:35:44,079
after ephemeral desires. Life is always beautiful when you look

2436
02:35:44,120 --> 02:35:46,399
at it with peaceful eyes, the light of a soul

2437
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:49,959
at peace. We soldiers, we have nothing, and we are happy.

2438
02:35:50,799 --> 02:35:53,639
The joy of an unencumbered soul can only flourish when

2439
02:35:53,719 --> 02:35:57,360
one has cast off this jumble of mental slavery. War

2440
02:35:57,520 --> 02:36:00,719
is not just combat, above all. It is a long,

2441
02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:06,559
sometimes exhausting streak, sometimes stretching into tedium, of silent renouncements,

2442
02:36:06,639 --> 02:36:11,440
of daily sacrifices without relief. Virtuous forged in the same

2443
02:36:11,520 --> 02:36:17,159
way everywhere, the privations endured with humility, waiting patiently for

2444
02:36:17,319 --> 02:36:20,959
death's arrival, the giving of oneself. Far from the spotlight,

2445
02:36:21,079 --> 02:36:24,959
one plays one's part in an unknown field, in unknown

2446
02:36:25,000 --> 02:36:28,680
fields and groves, in this wasteland, far from all human joy,

2447
02:36:29,639 --> 02:36:32,440
such as the real war, the one waged by millions

2448
02:36:32,479 --> 02:36:36,559
of men who will never know ostentious, ostentatious glory, and who,

2449
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:39,360
if they do not die, will return home with their

2450
02:36:39,399 --> 02:36:42,920
faces tight their lips closed, for others would not comprehend

2451
02:36:42,959 --> 02:36:47,440
the heartbreaks and renunciations, and their obscure heroism. The crowd

2452
02:36:47,559 --> 02:36:50,120
is only struck by heroism when it is bright and loud.

2453
02:36:50,680 --> 02:36:53,000
What impresses the public is to brilliance, and not the

2454
02:36:53,079 --> 02:36:56,000
painful and slow ascents of souls who rise in silence

2455
02:36:56,280 --> 02:37:01,360
and shadow to greatness. But are we ever understood? Do

2456
02:37:01,479 --> 02:37:04,399
we hear? Do we see anything other than the superficial?

2457
02:37:04,959 --> 02:37:08,159
The bottom of hearts is such an abyss of desires, denials,

2458
02:37:08,280 --> 02:37:11,319
sorrows that we prefer not to approach it. It is

2459
02:37:11,440 --> 02:37:15,079
simpler more pleasant to stick to the superficial, and, without

2460
02:37:15,159 --> 02:37:18,040
thinking too much, to enjoy the words and attitudes that

2461
02:37:18,120 --> 02:37:22,920
we have, the tapestry of human drama. We soldiers stand

2462
02:37:22,959 --> 02:37:26,840
behind that tapestry. What souls will imagine our journeys? Who

2463
02:37:26,879 --> 02:37:30,440
will have the strength to join us spiritually zeal Even

2464
02:37:30,520 --> 02:37:34,520
intelligence cannot be enough. To have culture is to have

2465
02:37:34,600 --> 02:37:38,079
a balance of mind, illumination, wisdom, which can only be

2466
02:37:38,159 --> 02:37:40,840
the result of a long discipline of the higher faculties,

2467
02:37:41,120 --> 02:37:44,040
where the only proven method is the application of extensive

2468
02:37:44,200 --> 02:37:49,280
contact with the most fundamental works of human intelligence. The

2469
02:37:49,360 --> 02:37:54,840
disinterested study of ancient civilizations, mothers of ideas and systems,

2470
02:37:54,959 --> 02:37:57,760
the study of philosophy, the study of mathematics, the secret

2471
02:37:57,840 --> 02:38:00,719
fabric of all the arts, the comparative study of the

2472
02:38:00,840 --> 02:38:03,840
lessons of history. This alone can bring about the harmony

2473
02:38:03,879 --> 02:38:07,319
of the human faculties, without which the most dazzling successes

2474
02:38:07,440 --> 02:38:12,879
always have a character of miracle and fragility. Intellectual maturity

2475
02:38:12,959 --> 02:38:17,559
is not irreconcilable with genius. Maturity makes genius exact and human,

2476
02:38:17,920 --> 02:38:21,600
channeling it towards a desirable end. Its strength is not

2477
02:38:21,840 --> 02:38:26,639
thereby diminished, only more useful. Richelieu would not have given

2478
02:38:26,760 --> 02:38:29,479
France half of the blessings of his genius if he

2479
02:38:29,559 --> 02:38:35,000
had been self taught. The origin of our century's mental

2480
02:38:35,520 --> 02:38:38,760
debilitation is that it is a century of the self taught.

2481
02:38:39,280 --> 02:38:44,920
Their work has a disorderly, inhuman, unstable character. True genius,

2482
02:38:45,200 --> 02:38:50,639
or at least beneficent genius, is balanced, which brings happiness,

2483
02:38:50,840 --> 02:38:55,639
progress and order. The instinctive genius is stunning, dazzling, but

2484
02:38:55,719 --> 02:38:58,799
always at a great cost. When the fireworks fade, the

2485
02:38:58,840 --> 02:39:02,799
sky only looks darker than before. The banal and the

2486
02:39:02,920 --> 02:39:07,479
vulgar are neighbors of the grandiose and the eternal. Earlier

2487
02:39:07,520 --> 02:39:10,079
I watched a pig going to slaughter. He was keen

2488
02:39:10,159 --> 02:39:14,319
on life, poor thing, almost bloodless. Still he gasped and moaned.

2489
02:39:15,040 --> 02:39:17,159
Beasts and men in the face of death. We are

2490
02:39:17,239 --> 02:39:20,239
the same, Yet our honored demands, and we must take

2491
02:39:20,319 --> 02:39:23,000
great care to ensure that at the hour of our death,

2492
02:39:23,079 --> 02:39:27,440
we have the courage to face it with dignity. Soldiers,

2493
02:39:27,520 --> 02:39:29,879
we risk our own skins all the time, and so

2494
02:39:30,040 --> 02:39:33,600
we take very simple joy and merely existing. Death is

2495
02:39:33,639 --> 02:39:37,040
always right before our face, death is everywhere. Therefore we

2496
02:39:37,200 --> 02:39:40,159
understand the greatness of life better than others. If the

2497
02:39:40,239 --> 02:39:42,879
soul did not rise straight as the barrel of a gun,

2498
02:39:43,159 --> 02:39:46,040
straight as the crosses over the graves, we would quickly

2499
02:39:46,159 --> 02:39:51,559
sink into moral decay. Our whole world consists of woods fields, marshes,

2500
02:39:51,639 --> 02:39:55,079
striped trees, near which one is on the lookout day

2501
02:39:55,159 --> 02:39:58,479
or night, warming his hands with his breath, rubbing his ears,

2502
02:39:58,719 --> 02:40:02,479
trampling over ground that today is hard and unforgiving as granite,

2503
02:40:02,719 --> 02:40:05,760
where just yesterday it was a sea of mud. In

2504
02:40:05,879 --> 02:40:08,959
the evening from four o'clock we watch the shadows. We

2505
02:40:09,079 --> 02:40:11,399
must guard our hearts closely so as not to weep

2506
02:40:11,440 --> 02:40:13,920
in the face of such an abyss. The soul is

2507
02:40:13,959 --> 02:40:17,399
faced with total surrender, and yet she is proud, and

2508
02:40:17,520 --> 02:40:22,000
she sings because strip bears in the bygone days of innocence.

2509
02:40:22,200 --> 02:40:24,440
She is aware of the gravity of the mission offered

2510
02:40:24,520 --> 02:40:27,639
to those who tread this lonely abyss those who will

2511
02:40:27,760 --> 02:40:30,680
redeem the cowardice and filth of a world peopled by

2512
02:40:30,760 --> 02:40:35,000
empty souls. Here her wings start to beat again, shaking

2513
02:40:35,079 --> 02:40:37,760
off the dried mud that once had dirtied them. They

2514
02:40:37,879 --> 02:40:41,239
find joy again in the returns of clean air, open space,

2515
02:40:41,559 --> 02:40:47,000
distant lines. If we here have made good of our suffering,

2516
02:40:47,319 --> 02:40:51,000
we will have achieved our true victory. But will but

2517
02:40:51,399 --> 02:40:54,159
will we who suffer be able to remain peer to

2518
02:40:54,239 --> 02:40:58,239
the end? Won't we feel ridiculous in our angelic garb

2519
02:40:58,520 --> 02:41:01,319
on our return? Well, we have the courage not to

2520
02:41:01,399 --> 02:41:03,760
be ashamed when we hear the countless years of those

2521
02:41:03,799 --> 02:41:07,440
who have soiled their souls and who insolently believe themselves

2522
02:41:07,479 --> 02:41:11,000
to be triumphant something important.

2523
02:41:11,159 --> 02:41:15,360
Speaker 2: And you find this again and again inass memoirs. And

2524
02:41:15,520 --> 02:41:20,639
there's a peculiar irony. I think at least you know

2525
02:41:20,760 --> 02:41:26,600
modern modern infantry elements, the degree to which they owe

2526
02:41:27,319 --> 02:41:33,399
not just you know, not just doc trintal things and

2527
02:41:34,920 --> 02:41:39,840
atactical preferences to the wafs, but the kind of organizational

2528
02:41:39,959 --> 02:41:44,319
spirit and the breaking down of barriers between officers and men.

2529
02:41:45,200 --> 02:41:47,440
You know that that all came from the and that

2530
02:41:47,520 --> 02:41:52,360
was specifically Paul Hauser, you know, who's kind of like

2531
02:41:52,399 --> 02:42:00,520
an unsung uh figure, I think not just because of

2532
02:42:00,600 --> 02:42:04,200
his battlefield aptitude, but you know, the kind of organizational

2533
02:42:04,280 --> 02:42:06,520
model ad for the Vaines. This wasn't just the Grel

2534
02:42:06,680 --> 02:42:09,680
being some romantic and like you know talking about like

2535
02:42:09,719 --> 02:42:12,479
oh the you know, the the glory that is, you know,

2536
02:42:12,600 --> 02:42:14,719
to be the common soldier or the NCO, you know,

2537
02:42:14,840 --> 02:42:17,920
leading the common man, like like Vabina says, officers actually

2538
02:42:18,000 --> 02:42:20,079
did lead from the front, you know, and like they

2539
02:42:20,280 --> 02:42:22,639
ate with their men and like they you know, there

2540
02:42:22,760 --> 02:42:30,760
wasn't I mean, it wasn't just mission oriented tactics, you know. Uh.

2541
02:42:30,920 --> 02:42:32,760
And what we almost think of is the precursor to

2542
02:42:32,840 --> 02:42:35,520
special operations in some cases, you know, particularly the case

2543
02:42:35,559 --> 02:42:39,159
of people like Scorsanese commandos that kind of created a

2544
02:42:39,239 --> 02:42:42,559
sort of like egalitarian spirit like that was very much cultivated,

2545
02:42:43,000 --> 02:42:46,280
you know. And so it's corny as well as just

2546
02:42:46,760 --> 02:42:50,000
you know a lie, you know in these old movies

2547
02:42:50,120 --> 02:42:52,799
or even in this kind of more contemporary stuff where

2548
02:42:52,920 --> 02:42:55,319
they cast you know, like the Verhmacht or the I

2549
02:42:55,399 --> 02:42:58,639
mean they cast the bafan assess and even the Hrmacht

2550
02:42:58,639 --> 02:43:00,959
which still had these kinds of class based issues, but

2551
02:43:01,000 --> 02:43:02,719
I look at the same degree, but they cast like

2552
02:43:02,719 --> 02:43:05,040
any German military forces. It's kind of like these like

2553
02:43:05,239 --> 02:43:08,760
cruel like Prussian Martinette types, you know, LIKEU have contempt

2554
02:43:08,760 --> 02:43:11,399
for the men and like there's no recourse if you're

2555
02:43:11,479 --> 02:43:13,920
a if you're an enlisted man or an NCO, you know,

2556
02:43:13,959 --> 02:43:16,040
against an officer read if he's in the wrong. I

2557
02:43:16,120 --> 02:43:18,239
mean somewhat it's like a combination of like the worst

2558
02:43:18,319 --> 02:43:20,639
of like the way the Soviet Army was with you know,

2559
02:43:20,719 --> 02:43:23,200
kind of a caricature of the nineteenth century Royal Navy

2560
02:43:23,360 --> 02:43:25,959
or something like. They could not be farther from the truth,

2561
02:43:26,479 --> 02:43:31,360
you know, I point there's a reason why, uh, there's

2562
02:43:31,360 --> 02:43:33,600
a reason why modern militaries like literally look like the

2563
02:43:33,680 --> 02:43:36,120
wafan SS too, from like the rifles they packed to

2564
02:43:36,159 --> 02:43:41,520
their helmets, you know, to to uh you know some

2565
02:43:41,680 --> 02:43:45,799
of the ways uh they deployed, especially in the early

2566
02:43:45,879 --> 02:43:50,639
Cold War, you know, as uh, the distinction between you know,

2567
02:43:50,799 --> 02:43:54,079
light medium and heavy light medium and heavy armor was abolished.

2568
02:43:54,879 --> 02:43:58,280
You know that they can't be overstated, and that really

2569
02:43:58,319 --> 02:44:00,159
comes out in Bigrell because he was obviously like a

2570
02:44:00,239 --> 02:44:03,479
man of letters, what a certain there's like a certain

2571
02:44:03,520 --> 02:44:06,680
ash and lyricism what he wrote. And finally then we

2572
02:44:06,760 --> 02:44:09,559
can move on. You know this this idea that like

2573
02:44:09,719 --> 02:44:12,479
wars is horrible. Uh, that's only reasons I object to

2574
02:44:12,520 --> 02:44:15,200
all quite in the Western Front, not just because it's

2575
02:44:15,239 --> 02:44:17,239
cry baby stuff, but it's just kind of at odds

2576
02:44:17,319 --> 02:44:20,840
with you know, the way humans are, like if you're

2577
02:44:21,079 --> 02:44:25,200
if you're a if you're an infantryman at war. I've

2578
02:44:25,239 --> 02:44:27,559
had guys relay to me that they're big terror, especially

2579
02:44:29,440 --> 02:44:32,319
especially guys in Vietnam who are their flyers or on

2580
02:44:32,600 --> 02:44:35,600
long range reconnaissance or in long range of continence rolls.

2581
02:44:35,719 --> 02:44:39,040
There's a terror of being captured, which made sense. And

2582
02:44:39,079 --> 02:44:41,360
there's an ongoing terror hell in the in the mind

2583
02:44:41,399 --> 02:44:45,520
of reentrument, of imma treatment of being being wounded, particularly

2584
02:44:45,600 --> 02:44:47,719
and I mean not not to be crass, but being

2585
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:52,200
wounded below the waste. But you know, the worst thing

2586
02:44:52,239 --> 02:44:54,760
that happens is you die. You don't have anything else

2587
02:44:54,799 --> 02:44:59,959
to worry about. You're free, you know, And uh, there's

2588
02:45:00,079 --> 02:45:06,440
not any distinction between principle and action. And you know

2589
02:45:06,520 --> 02:45:08,559
that the idea that there's some kind of like horrible

2590
02:45:08,680 --> 02:45:12,280
hell to like be uh serving the infantry in a

2591
02:45:12,360 --> 02:45:15,760
modern war, like compared to what compared to to working

2592
02:45:15,799 --> 02:45:18,079
in like a mid twentie century factory. I mean, like

2593
02:45:18,159 --> 02:45:21,799
are compared to working in uh, you know, compared to

2594
02:45:21,879 --> 02:45:23,479
like having the life of Willy Lowman as like a

2595
02:45:23,559 --> 02:45:26,920
nineteen fifty salesman. Like it's there's something really at odds

2596
02:45:27,000 --> 02:45:29,159
with reality about it. I mean not just kind of

2597
02:45:29,200 --> 02:45:31,280
like puss a fed and coward yellow it's that too,

2598
02:45:31,440 --> 02:45:36,440
but just like nakedly at odds with reality. And uh,

2599
02:45:36,520 --> 02:45:40,319
I think that that's important. Like a lot of yak

2600
02:45:40,360 --> 02:45:43,239
and Piper didn't write any formal memoirs, but what he

2601
02:45:43,360 --> 02:45:45,719
did put the paper about what it was like on

2602
02:45:45,760 --> 02:45:48,559
the Eastern Front, you know, like he didn't romanticize it

2603
02:45:48,760 --> 02:45:51,399
like there. You know, he talked about how awful some

2604
02:45:51,559 --> 02:45:53,840
of that kind of duty was. I mean, not just

2605
02:45:53,920 --> 02:45:56,479
in what was called for in moral terms, but like

2606
02:45:56,760 --> 02:46:01,159
you know, the physical brutalities that the modern infantry man

2607
02:46:01,239 --> 02:46:04,079
had to put himself through. I mean it certainly was

2608
02:46:04,159 --> 02:46:07,440
not fun, but it but it's profounding was guided when

2609
02:46:07,440 --> 02:46:09,639
people act like, you know, there's some like horrible fate

2610
02:46:09,879 --> 02:46:11,639
you know, to befall you as a man, like to

2611
02:46:11,719 --> 02:46:14,520
be a soldier in war. That's all I want to do.

2612
02:46:14,600 --> 02:46:18,879
Speaker 1: In Sinuwait Okay, Part twenty six, The Taming of Horses.

2613
02:46:20,879 --> 02:46:24,520
Fleas cling to our uniforms in serried ranks, Mice run

2614
02:46:24,600 --> 02:46:26,840
all about. In the middle of the night, I awake

2615
02:46:26,959 --> 02:46:30,280
to find a rat nestled against my nose. These companions

2616
02:46:30,319 --> 02:46:33,600
strengthen us against vanity and pride, we who cannot escape

2617
02:46:33,639 --> 02:46:36,120
even the smallest of beasts, and the most ridiculous and

2618
02:46:36,159 --> 02:46:40,319
the dirtiest. But poetry is everywhere in front of our guns.

2619
02:46:40,520 --> 02:46:43,680
Thousands of sparrows jump in the hedges, round bellied birds,

2620
02:46:43,680 --> 02:46:47,159
slowly dancing about. They listen a meter away to the

2621
02:46:47,239 --> 02:46:50,040
little compliments that we offer them. Then they settle in

2622
02:46:50,120 --> 02:46:53,239
wild flocks in the rushes. They cry, chirp, and hiss,

2623
02:46:53,799 --> 02:46:56,559
as if the silver sky had thrown fistfuls of pure

2624
02:46:56,680 --> 02:47:00,639
joy over the frosty landscape. There are also passing ravens,

2625
02:47:00,920 --> 02:47:04,159
like black lightning, few and silent. From time to time

2626
02:47:04,200 --> 02:47:07,360
they utter their great horse cry no doubt, to remind

2627
02:47:07,440 --> 02:47:11,159
us that death awaits us, harsh like them, ravenous like them,

2628
02:47:11,520 --> 02:47:15,760
on dark and deadly wings. We strive to always smile

2629
02:47:16,040 --> 02:47:18,680
at the singing sparrows at the solemn crows that pass.

2630
02:47:19,280 --> 02:47:21,760
But the heart is the heart, and every man, though

2631
02:47:21,840 --> 02:47:24,719
smiling with his mouth and eyes, hides underneath the awful

2632
02:47:24,760 --> 02:47:29,159
secrets of a suffering animal. We feel that death watches

2633
02:47:29,280 --> 02:47:33,040
on every side. Each step exacts a cost. Our steps

2634
02:47:33,079 --> 02:47:36,520
grow heavy and must be made light, despite the heavy guns,

2635
02:47:36,840 --> 02:47:40,200
the stumbling feet, the fields of overripe grain that scratch

2636
02:47:40,319 --> 02:47:43,479
the skin, the massive shell holes in which a misplaced

2637
02:47:43,520 --> 02:47:46,280
step could drop one into the abyss without a word.

2638
02:47:47,319 --> 02:47:50,239
This is it, the thankless life of a soldier, which

2639
02:47:50,319 --> 02:47:54,200
knows neither exhilaration nor glory, where at any time one

2640
02:47:54,239 --> 02:47:56,959
can be stabbed, shot, or dragged off as a prisoner

2641
02:47:57,000 --> 02:47:59,360
by the enemy. On the other side, you have to

2642
02:47:59,440 --> 02:48:03,000
move forward, calmly, meter by meter, even when shots may

2643
02:48:03,159 --> 02:48:06,520
ring out suddenly from ten paces away. Shots ring out

2644
02:48:06,559 --> 02:48:09,600
in the night between the outposts, a hoarse cry, and

2645
02:48:09,680 --> 02:48:15,120
the night rolls on, impervious, frozen, relentless. At these times,

2646
02:48:15,239 --> 02:48:18,440
our entire being wishes to rebel. We care for our

2647
02:48:18,520 --> 02:48:22,120
lives those of our comrades, the blood coursing powerfully through

2648
02:48:22,159 --> 02:48:25,440
their veins. We are beings of the flesh. We want

2649
02:48:25,520 --> 02:48:28,239
the light to be reborn with vigor and heat. The

2650
02:48:28,360 --> 02:48:31,840
human beast roars and cries out for his will to unfold,

2651
02:48:32,159 --> 02:48:36,840
to burn, to resound, to remain huddled, subdued, to remain

2652
02:48:36,879 --> 02:48:39,280
in the shadows, ready for the final act, or take

2653
02:48:39,520 --> 02:48:43,079
or the final breath. Takes a terrible discipline. It inflicts

2654
02:48:43,200 --> 02:48:47,200
terrible injury on our will. But our taste for life

2655
02:48:47,360 --> 02:48:50,959
will be even stronger because we have more intensely experienced

2656
02:48:51,000 --> 02:48:54,239
the value, the flavor, the burning sweetness of every second

2657
02:48:54,639 --> 02:48:57,200
falling like a drop of silence in this great tension

2658
02:48:57,440 --> 02:49:02,520
of ready hearts. We love with unchained power, our carnal existence,

2659
02:49:02,879 --> 02:49:05,520
the rhythm of our thoughts, the momentum of our senses,

2660
02:49:05,840 --> 02:49:08,959
which a single bullet in the night could shatter, our arms,

2661
02:49:09,159 --> 02:49:12,879
our legs, our eyes, to surround, to cross, to regard

2662
02:49:12,959 --> 02:49:17,319
with passion and domination. All this screams man's right to life,

2663
02:49:17,760 --> 02:49:20,200
the right of the animal that wants to run and seize,

2664
02:49:20,520 --> 02:49:23,040
the right of the intelligence that wants to enchant and

2665
02:49:23,200 --> 02:49:30,040
create life. How beautifully, how beautiful, indescribably beautiful, exhilarating softness

2666
02:49:30,079 --> 02:49:34,319
of body, light of midday, ardor of fire. We clenched

2667
02:49:34,399 --> 02:49:38,040
this life in our wilful fists, those of silent, attentive,

2668
02:49:38,399 --> 02:49:42,159
patient shadow watchers. We have learned to tame ourselves, to

2669
02:49:42,280 --> 02:49:45,559
tame the wild horses which ran across the vast fields

2670
02:49:45,600 --> 02:49:48,399
of our dreams. But holding them in our hands with

2671
02:49:48,520 --> 02:49:51,280
a steel fist, we close our eyes and inhale the

2672
02:49:51,360 --> 02:49:54,200
powerful smell of life that gathers above life.

2673
02:49:54,719 --> 02:49:55,000
Speaker 2: Life.

2674
02:49:55,959 --> 02:49:58,760
Speaker 1: It is so cold that the medicine vials shattered, the

2675
02:49:58,840 --> 02:50:02,479
alcohol itself froze in the ambulance. Poor feet, poor ears,

2676
02:50:02,639 --> 02:50:08,760
for poor frostbitten noses, mummified in the atrocious, howling, whistling night.

2677
02:50:09,879 --> 02:50:13,479
This morning, the order to leave for another combat sector arrived.

2678
02:50:13,920 --> 02:50:16,680
We will go where we are ordered, smiling in the snow, which,

2679
02:50:16,760 --> 02:50:21,440
since we awoke has been falling in heavy flakes. Our

2680
02:50:21,479 --> 02:50:24,159
feet will be cold, our lips will be raw, our bodies,

2681
02:50:24,399 --> 02:50:27,559
huddled over against the cold, will be heavy and awkward.

2682
02:50:27,799 --> 02:50:30,360
But our inner fire will continue to rise and fill

2683
02:50:30,399 --> 02:50:33,719
our eyes with glimmers of the sun. Here our souls

2684
02:50:33,719 --> 02:50:37,280
are strained, these low hills, these rows of firs, these

2685
02:50:37,319 --> 02:50:41,879
abandoned millstones, watch us go, regarding our lines with shining eyes,

2686
02:50:42,840 --> 02:50:45,840
This black sky that I contemplate now for the last time,

2687
02:50:46,200 --> 02:50:48,760
I have filled it with the brilliant streaks of tracer bullets,

2688
02:50:48,760 --> 02:50:53,000
while the enemy's rounds uttered their chill cries like pouncing

2689
02:50:53,079 --> 02:50:57,239
cats all about me. Already my bag is ready. I

2690
02:50:57,319 --> 02:51:00,559
look at the crushed straw broken into small pieces on

2691
02:51:00,639 --> 02:51:04,159
the spot I habitually rested after returning, tired and frozen

2692
02:51:04,399 --> 02:51:07,600
from late night patrols. The smoky little lantern cast a

2693
02:51:07,680 --> 02:51:11,840
yellow light over my last daily report. A few more shirts,

2694
02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:16,520
a few handkerchiefs freshly washed, already covered with dust, rough

2695
02:51:16,639 --> 02:51:20,239
mud walls, the oven that we heated with debris from barracks,

2696
02:51:20,600 --> 02:51:25,719
little frozen tiles painted with designs of white ferns. We

2697
02:51:25,840 --> 02:51:29,120
picked up, our battered bowls, our canteens, our weapons, emblazoned

2698
02:51:29,200 --> 02:51:32,840
with black lightning. No doubt to this place will one

2699
02:51:32,920 --> 02:51:37,319
day return plants laden with fruit, Christian icons, a woman

2700
02:51:37,399 --> 02:51:40,760
clad in heavy petticoats, and the thick smell of vegetable fat.

2701
02:51:41,479 --> 02:51:44,079
But forever gone will be the humble and bustling life

2702
02:51:44,120 --> 02:51:47,000
of many young foreign boys lost in the depths of

2703
02:51:47,079 --> 02:51:49,920
step who left in the middle of the night with

2704
02:51:50,079 --> 02:51:54,879
calloused hands and frozen blood. This miserable, poorly lit square

2705
02:51:54,959 --> 02:51:57,719
has been the center of an intense spiritual life, that

2706
02:51:57,920 --> 02:52:00,600
life will leave with us and will be reborn at

2707
02:52:00,719 --> 02:52:05,680
random from the frozen roads, improvised lodgings, embankments, and trenches

2708
02:52:05,760 --> 02:52:08,600
from which we watch for and track down our opponents,

2709
02:52:08,920 --> 02:52:12,440
or avoid his blows. We may return to these spots

2710
02:52:12,479 --> 02:52:15,559
one day, but the essential character will be gone, and

2711
02:52:15,719 --> 02:52:19,079
so we leave at dawn without looking back. Life is ahead,

2712
02:52:19,440 --> 02:52:23,319
even if life is death bah. The greater the sacrifice,

2713
02:52:23,719 --> 02:52:26,399
the more we give of ourselves, And it was to

2714
02:52:26,479 --> 02:52:29,639
give of ourselves that we stood up with radiant hearts.

2715
02:52:31,520 --> 02:52:38,040
Take a sip twenty seven the apocalyptic cycle. The wind

2716
02:52:38,079 --> 02:52:40,680
blows and biting us, whipping the snow against our skin

2717
02:52:40,840 --> 02:52:45,239
like darts. The river is frozen, frozen, its little tributaries

2718
02:52:45,280 --> 02:52:48,840
which ran through the crevices, frozen the hills, the thistles

2719
02:52:48,879 --> 02:52:53,159
of the embankments, the ruined factories. My heart itself has

2720
02:52:53,239 --> 02:52:56,479
caught cold, cold from these months of soul tension, a

2721
02:52:56,600 --> 02:53:01,239
withdrawal into inhuman solitude. Cold is these rigid black trees

2722
02:53:01,319 --> 02:53:06,760
which the north wind whips to stress in everything. Everyone

2723
02:53:06,840 --> 02:53:09,840
feels to chill. We break our cold bread, We scrape

2724
02:53:09,879 --> 02:53:12,120
the huge chunks of mud from our clothes. With a knife,

2725
02:53:12,559 --> 02:53:15,280
we cut away great clumps of the blackish glue from

2726
02:53:15,319 --> 02:53:19,120
our shoes and gaiters. No water, you have to go

2727
02:53:19,319 --> 02:53:22,040
three kilometers to obtain a dirty brown liquid filled with

2728
02:53:22,159 --> 02:53:25,920
grass clippings. Let us love our misery anyway, as it

2729
02:53:26,040 --> 02:53:29,959
uplifts us, prepares us for destinies that call for pure

2730
02:53:30,079 --> 02:53:33,760
and strong hearts. The cycle of wars is now apocalyptic.

2731
02:53:34,040 --> 02:53:37,520
The waves widen more and more, grow in speed and

2732
02:53:37,680 --> 02:53:42,440
force to spread in a fabulous, gyrating movement. Wars have

2733
02:53:42,559 --> 02:53:46,920
become universal revolutions. The whole world is caught up in

2734
02:53:46,959 --> 02:53:51,079
its whirlwind. Armies collide, economic forces clash, They tear each

2735
02:53:51,120 --> 02:53:53,719
other apart. The forces of the spirit engage in a

2736
02:53:53,799 --> 02:53:57,840
merciless duel. The universe will have to bleed, struggle, know

2737
02:53:58,000 --> 02:54:02,159
the pangs of flight, the agony separation. Thousands of men,

2738
02:54:02,360 --> 02:54:04,559
millions of men, will have to look with frozen or

2739
02:54:04,600 --> 02:54:08,000
feverish eyes at death, always the same, that is to say,

2740
02:54:08,040 --> 02:54:10,879
always cruel, tearing the heart at the same time as

2741
02:54:10,920 --> 02:54:14,879
the flesh. This drama was inevitable. Only the blind and

2742
02:54:14,920 --> 02:54:18,159
the foolish, that is to say, almost everyone believe that

2743
02:54:18,239 --> 02:54:23,840
these were conflicts of rival nations. Conflicts which could be localized. However,

2744
02:54:24,399 --> 02:54:28,200
these are implacable pseudo religious wars, quite similar to all

2745
02:54:28,239 --> 02:54:32,479
religious wars, but which will take almost limitless proportions, reaching

2746
02:54:32,600 --> 02:54:35,000
up to the little to the last little island or

2747
02:54:35,079 --> 02:54:41,079
ice flow, so that all people, be Theyia, Tahitians or Laplanders,

2748
02:54:41,399 --> 02:54:46,200
will have to choose like everyone else. When how will

2749
02:54:46,239 --> 02:54:51,360
this prodigious settling of accounts end? Our skies will long

2750
02:54:51,479 --> 02:54:54,200
be crossed by this lightning. Our children will grow up

2751
02:54:54,200 --> 02:54:58,040
amid the blinding flashes of falling or triumphaning ideas at

2752
02:54:58,200 --> 02:55:02,559
arms entry, where the scale of the drama chills the blood.

2753
02:55:02,879 --> 02:55:05,360
But a sorrowful century in which the whole universe is

2754
02:55:05,399 --> 02:55:10,440
being remade more by spirit than by iron. Tragedies such

2755
02:55:10,440 --> 02:55:14,280
as the world will never know, tragedy such as the

2756
02:55:14,319 --> 02:55:17,040
World has never known, so complete, in which we are

2757
02:55:17,159 --> 02:55:21,239
all actors. But where it is hearts that play. Millions

2758
02:55:21,280 --> 02:55:24,000
of hearts are on the scene, still young and naive,

2759
02:55:24,399 --> 02:55:27,920
or old and silent, or ruined and confused. To walk

2760
02:55:27,959 --> 02:55:30,879
one hundred meters between the bloody lines. We come back broken,

2761
02:55:31,360 --> 02:55:34,760
as if every step took all our strength, nothing to do,

2762
02:55:35,520 --> 02:55:38,799
nothing to read. We only have a miserable kerosene lamp

2763
02:55:38,879 --> 02:55:41,120
with a small yellowish flame that lights up a square

2764
02:55:41,200 --> 02:55:44,479
meter of our shelter. It takes more courage to live

2765
02:55:44,559 --> 02:55:46,719
like this, hold up in the mud, than to advance

2766
02:55:46,760 --> 02:55:48,799
on the enemy with the machine gun under your arm.

2767
02:55:49,159 --> 02:55:52,920
You can feel the temptation, the muffled voices, the demoralizing questions,

2768
02:55:53,399 --> 02:55:55,840
what are you doing here? Can't you see you're wasting

2769
02:55:55,879 --> 02:55:59,760
your time, your efforts, your sacrifices. Does anyone even remember

2770
02:55:59,799 --> 02:56:02,440
that you exist? Shall we leave you alone to rod

2771
02:56:02,440 --> 02:56:06,559
away into oblivion? But the soul quickly regains its serenity.

2772
02:56:06,959 --> 02:56:10,040
She knows that nothing is more precious than this renunciation,

2773
02:56:10,959 --> 02:56:14,479
this silent descent into the depth of consciousness. Can the

2774
02:56:14,559 --> 02:56:18,319
real victory, the victory over oneself, be better acquired elsewhere

2775
02:56:18,399 --> 02:56:21,520
than in the midst of these humiliations? Welcomed with the

2776
02:56:21,600 --> 02:56:26,159
head held high by straightforwardly opposing this hostile environment, the

2777
02:56:26,239 --> 02:56:28,840
loneliness of the heart and the cunning of the enemy

2778
02:56:28,879 --> 02:56:38,239
which assault the spirit twenty eight Enlightenment. War for US

2779
02:56:38,319 --> 02:56:42,280
soldiers is to become among poor companions with grim faces,

2780
02:56:42,559 --> 02:56:45,959
men huddled under the frozen earth, defined by dark, suffering

2781
02:56:46,120 --> 02:56:49,360
without comfort. It is mud it is a snow, it

2782
02:56:49,479 --> 02:56:53,000
is bottomless despair. It is feet torn by the endless steps.

2783
02:56:53,319 --> 02:56:56,200
It's the hundred shameful little miseries which surround the life

2784
02:56:56,239 --> 02:56:58,680
of the soldier at the front, like a clinging and

2785
02:56:58,840 --> 02:57:03,600
fog of sadness. The stifled life ceaselessly calls for the

2786
02:57:03,719 --> 02:57:06,760
calling up of energy, the leap of the soul, which

2787
02:57:06,879 --> 02:57:10,479
must tear itself out that missed in order to shine again.

2788
02:57:11,680 --> 02:57:14,120
This life bears no resemblance to the brilliant ideas that

2789
02:57:14,200 --> 02:57:16,680
the public has about the exploits of war. But they

2790
02:57:16,719 --> 02:57:19,959
ought not to be disabused of this notion, we would

2791
02:57:20,000 --> 02:57:23,840
thereby spoil their beautiful and brightly colored image. Yet I

2792
02:57:23,920 --> 02:57:26,000
lie down in exhaustion at the end of each day

2793
02:57:26,079 --> 02:57:29,440
with a joy that is a little bit sad, but powerful,

2794
02:57:29,680 --> 02:57:33,399
because it is an incomparable lesson in patience, self mortification,

2795
02:57:33,920 --> 02:57:37,319
the elevation of the soul. We should never try to

2796
02:57:37,399 --> 02:57:40,719
cheat the ordeal of or stifle its voice. If the

2797
02:57:40,799 --> 02:57:43,200
lesson were to be useful, if we did not return

2798
02:57:43,239 --> 02:57:46,200
as men changed by the experience, there would not be

2799
02:57:46,399 --> 02:57:49,559
this wall between on one hand, those who are afraid

2800
02:57:49,600 --> 02:57:51,680
of the ordeal, and on the other hand, those who

2801
02:57:51,719 --> 02:57:55,399
looked hardship in the eye and learned from it. Life

2802
02:57:55,479 --> 02:57:58,959
sinks its fangs into us time after time. I escape

2803
02:57:59,040 --> 02:58:02,000
this time, like so many others, with a weary, worried,

2804
02:58:02,280 --> 02:58:06,079
chewed up heart. I wish now to return there at peace,

2805
02:58:06,399 --> 02:58:10,760
having found innocence and confidence. It is Christmas. I watched

2806
02:58:10,760 --> 02:58:14,360
the snowfall tirelessly, and despite its lightness, I feel that

2807
02:58:14,440 --> 02:58:18,799
I am suffocating. Soldiers passed bent double against the wind

2808
02:58:19,120 --> 02:58:24,000
going quickly around me. Nothing around me, nothing, always the

2809
02:58:24,079 --> 02:58:27,840
wind blowing, a man nervously biting his nails, others collapsing

2810
02:58:27,879 --> 02:58:31,239
into sleep, exhausted by the knights in the watch. Jesus

2811
02:58:31,319 --> 02:58:35,079
could have been born in our little shelter sincerity, the

2812
02:58:35,159 --> 02:58:39,040
good animals about the manger, who offered themselves entirely, the

2813
02:58:39,159 --> 02:58:41,479
honest hearts of the shepherds, who did not doubt for

2814
02:58:41,520 --> 02:58:45,159
a second, did not hesitate, and who immediately gave everything

2815
02:58:45,200 --> 02:58:48,559
at their disposal. They only had sheep, and they gave

2816
02:58:48,639 --> 02:58:52,600
their sheep, who remembering them, who remembering them, would not

2817
02:58:52,760 --> 02:58:55,959
take heart. What counts is not what you give sheep

2818
02:58:56,120 --> 02:58:58,920
or great treasures. It is the fervor of the heart

2819
02:58:59,000 --> 02:59:02,680
that weighs upon the sun scales. Sometimes life seems too

2820
02:59:02,799 --> 02:59:07,000
exhausting to carry, painful even to think about. Today, it

2821
02:59:07,120 --> 02:59:10,440
is almost an anguish to forget your own existence, your

2822
02:59:10,479 --> 02:59:15,559
screaming soul. What could let us forget? We have spent

2823
02:59:15,639 --> 02:59:18,120
a day killing by the dozens, the liights that chew

2824
02:59:18,159 --> 02:59:21,000
at our skin, that is all. And yet the soul

2825
02:59:21,120 --> 02:59:25,079
must stand tall, proud, steadfast, and it must stay that way.

2826
02:59:25,680 --> 02:59:31,079
But great muffled voices deep in the background moan, we

2827
02:59:31,200 --> 02:59:33,760
are not men differently built than the others. We too

2828
02:59:33,840 --> 02:59:36,399
would like, when we listen only to the calls of

2829
02:59:36,479 --> 02:59:39,079
that outer life, to do not but pile up money

2830
02:59:39,120 --> 02:59:43,120
earned without labor. All men desire this, whose bodies run hot,

2831
02:59:43,360 --> 02:59:45,959
whose eyes are alight with the mixture of desire and pleasure.

2832
02:59:46,479 --> 02:59:50,319
The human beast youth that need to dominate rears up

2833
02:59:50,360 --> 02:59:53,920
in distress. Are you not wasting your years of radiant

2834
02:59:53,959 --> 02:59:58,000
life watched by death every hour? Don't you have any regrets?

2835
02:59:58,159 --> 03:00:01,200
Feel the desire to break everything in, to throw yourself

2836
03:00:01,239 --> 03:00:05,120
towards pleasure, towards luminous faces, towards beautiful women. As the

2837
03:00:05,200 --> 03:00:08,799
other boys of your time, these are times when you

2838
03:00:08,879 --> 03:00:11,159
have to stifle your passions, to feed your soul and

2839
03:00:11,239 --> 03:00:15,399
your faith at the expense of such human desires that

2840
03:00:15,559 --> 03:00:20,399
shine before our eyes like a mirage. We stand guard

2841
03:00:20,520 --> 03:00:24,280
on icy parapets, with a touch of bitterness in our hearts,

2842
03:00:24,719 --> 03:00:28,360
but supremely happy, yet at the sacrifice renewed every day,

2843
03:00:28,719 --> 03:00:31,639
without even knowing if we will be ever if we

2844
03:00:31,680 --> 03:00:35,360
will ever be understood. End of the year, I recap

2845
03:00:35,440 --> 03:00:38,559
the line of dying days, this year, with its secrets

2846
03:00:39,079 --> 03:00:42,520
and its illuminating lights. The secrets that are hidden behind

2847
03:00:42,559 --> 03:00:46,159
a smile, but which often bleed like wounds, never close,

2848
03:00:46,559 --> 03:00:50,000
and then the light light shone upon our character and

2849
03:00:50,079 --> 03:00:54,200
our deeds. There are the lights that we may show others.

2850
03:00:55,120 --> 03:00:58,840
These they are the least beautiful, these heroic lights we

2851
03:00:58,959 --> 03:01:03,440
show to others. They maintain an air of theatricality and falseness,

2852
03:01:03,920 --> 03:01:07,520
even when displayed in modest fashion. It is only with

2853
03:01:07,639 --> 03:01:10,680
great difficulty that one can keep a truly naive heart

2854
03:01:10,959 --> 03:01:14,280
and yet also take care to avoid an excess of pride.

2855
03:01:15,159 --> 03:01:19,079
These lights, these imperfect lights, will remain superficial. But these

2856
03:01:19,159 --> 03:01:22,239
glorious lights hurt our eyes. We are blinded when we

2857
03:01:22,399 --> 03:01:25,799
leave them, and we are so often plunged from these

2858
03:01:25,879 --> 03:01:30,440
brick lights into the shadows of everyday banality or minor setbacks.

2859
03:01:30,840 --> 03:01:33,360
I remember those lights. I love them only to the

2860
03:01:33,479 --> 03:01:36,959
extent that they illuminated that ideal towards which I walk.

2861
03:01:37,559 --> 03:01:40,159
I should only like these lights for this reason, But

2862
03:01:40,280 --> 03:01:42,680
I know very well that I have often let myself

2863
03:01:42,760 --> 03:01:46,760
be taken in by my own self satisfaction. Finally, these

2864
03:01:46,879 --> 03:01:50,559
lights necessary to arouse us to action, sadden me because

2865
03:01:50,639 --> 03:01:53,399
they show me that over and over again, I find

2866
03:01:53,440 --> 03:01:56,239
myself biting down on the hook of vanity or pride.

2867
03:01:57,399 --> 03:01:59,520
And then there are the other lights, the ones that

2868
03:01:59,639 --> 03:02:02,399
no one else sees from the outside. They let up

2869
03:02:02,440 --> 03:02:05,040
our souls like x rays. Then you know exactly what

2870
03:02:05,159 --> 03:02:08,120
you are worth. Caught these lights, we are no longer

2871
03:02:08,280 --> 03:02:11,719
very proud. We see ourselves. We see clearly all of

2872
03:02:11,840 --> 03:02:15,239
our weaknesses, We see clearly the poverty, the excuses we

2873
03:02:15,319 --> 03:02:19,399
have made for one hundred mistakes always the same. But

2874
03:02:19,520 --> 03:02:22,840
it is precisely because we know our own mediocrity all

2875
03:02:22,959 --> 03:02:26,440
too well that we experience intoxicating joys when the lights

2876
03:02:26,479 --> 03:02:28,479
that emerge from the depths of the soul end up

2877
03:02:28,520 --> 03:02:33,120
illuminating a heroic work of our own doing. Though it

2878
03:02:33,239 --> 03:02:36,079
be only a small act. It was born after so

2879
03:02:36,200 --> 03:02:40,920
much secret cowardice, that that first inner smile plunges us

2880
03:02:41,040 --> 03:02:52,799
into unspeakable raptures. Twenty nine intransigence who kept us on

2881
03:02:52,920 --> 03:02:55,559
their thoughts, the lost boys of the steps, who had

2882
03:02:55,600 --> 03:02:57,559
nothing to drink to the new year, but melts it

2883
03:02:57,639 --> 03:03:00,399
snow streaked with bits of yellow grass, or a few

2884
03:03:00,440 --> 03:03:04,440
steps of artificial coffee that smelled of soap. Miserable details,

2885
03:03:04,520 --> 03:03:09,040
humiliating details, the evocation of which seems out of place.

2886
03:03:09,280 --> 03:03:11,520
Who else could imagine how the biting cold made a

2887
03:03:11,559 --> 03:03:16,200
herculean effort of even minor tasks, For example, the miserable,

2888
03:03:16,559 --> 03:03:21,000
inevitable sickness of dysentery. Of course, we had no sewers.

2889
03:03:21,719 --> 03:03:24,799
Fifteen twenty times, in just a few hours you would

2890
03:03:24,840 --> 03:03:28,079
have to run into the blizzard to relieve yourself, allowing

2891
03:03:28,120 --> 03:03:30,799
your body to be cut by a wind as sharp

2892
03:03:30,799 --> 03:03:34,239
as a blade, as sharp as a whip. Vanity of

2893
03:03:34,280 --> 03:03:37,479
our bodies in which we often took such pride, the

2894
03:03:37,559 --> 03:03:41,000
beautiful human beasts, strong, burning with life, must submit to

2895
03:03:41,079 --> 03:03:45,319
these humiliations. The body rebels, but must give in the

2896
03:03:45,399 --> 03:03:47,840
body that was so satisfied with the pleasant rhythms of

2897
03:03:47,920 --> 03:03:51,680
life body which has been caressed, kissed love, and we

2898
03:03:51,799 --> 03:03:55,600
heaped such shame upon you. Yet nothing can reach the

2899
03:03:55,719 --> 03:03:59,200
mind that is master over itself. If the body is humiliated,

2900
03:03:59,479 --> 03:04:01,920
it is because the will has led him into these

2901
03:04:02,040 --> 03:04:06,680
whistling snows, to the bottom of these sordid shelters. Yesterday

2902
03:04:06,680 --> 03:04:09,040
it was lce. Today the cold claws at our skin.

2903
03:04:09,559 --> 03:04:11,799
We willed it to be, so we do not care

2904
03:04:11,879 --> 03:04:15,399
that we are scourged by this hostile, ferocious situation. One

2905
03:04:15,479 --> 03:04:17,559
day the cral winds will die off with the return

2906
03:04:17,600 --> 03:04:20,680
of the leaves to the trees. Our bodies, stretched out

2907
03:04:20,719 --> 03:04:22,799
in the waters of the rivers and the sun and

2908
03:04:22,840 --> 03:04:26,079
in the winds, will feel life beating more ardently than

2909
03:04:26,159 --> 03:04:29,319
ever around their bones, strong as metal under a living

2910
03:04:29,399 --> 03:04:32,680
flesh like the flesh of flowers, hard and clean like marble,

2911
03:04:33,000 --> 03:04:37,719
but golden, full, vibrant. Having suffered in triumph, we will

2912
03:04:37,760 --> 03:04:41,639
open our arms to the sun, and our smooth, powerful

2913
03:04:41,719 --> 03:04:44,520
and rough bodies will flow with blood like the sap

2914
03:04:44,600 --> 03:04:47,920
of the great virgin trees. Our wills will bring back

2915
03:04:47,959 --> 03:04:52,479
to life the beautiful human beast, prancing with life, now tamed,

2916
03:04:53,079 --> 03:04:57,040
the whole step caught up in the turmoil might well

2917
03:04:57,159 --> 03:05:02,440
crackle whistle rise in gigantic waves. Despite the cold that

2918
03:05:02,479 --> 03:05:05,559
scorched us, despite the gusts of hailstones it riddled our face,

2919
03:05:06,120 --> 03:05:08,920
I faced a mailstrom a hundred times to fill my

2920
03:05:09,000 --> 03:05:12,520
eyes with this grandeur, I felt carried away by the squalls.

2921
03:05:12,879 --> 03:05:15,719
I communicated with this epic power, where the white plane,

2922
03:05:16,120 --> 03:05:19,360
the sky, and the wind mingled their strength, their leaps,

2923
03:05:19,799 --> 03:05:23,440
their icy flames, their long cries springing from the horizon

2924
03:05:23,559 --> 03:05:26,680
and howling away at the end of the quivering plane.

2925
03:05:27,760 --> 03:05:30,760
What are at such moments the forces which rise up

2926
03:05:30,840 --> 03:05:34,079
in us in communion with the great natural outbursts. I

2927
03:05:34,159 --> 03:05:38,479
then feel transported, and immense bliss rises from all my body,

2928
03:05:38,959 --> 03:05:43,559
as if fabulous correspondences were established between my blood which

2929
03:05:43,680 --> 03:05:46,440
runs and the wind which blows, between the life which

2930
03:05:46,520 --> 03:05:49,719
boils in my limbs and the savage life which blows

2931
03:05:49,840 --> 03:05:52,879
past under the great sky. There is not one of

2932
03:05:52,959 --> 03:05:55,440
us soldiers who does not have to be prepared for

2933
03:05:55,959 --> 03:05:59,920
the most gruesome endings. But do we give only with reservation?

2934
03:06:00,799 --> 03:06:05,639
Death in humiliation isn't a way of giving? Death in humiliation?

2935
03:06:05,920 --> 03:06:08,920
Isn't it a way of giving even more? True sacrifice

2936
03:06:08,920 --> 03:06:12,680
cannot be calculated, cannot be given with reservation. We listen

2937
03:06:12,760 --> 03:06:16,040
to cynics more readily than to the message of righteous hearts.

2938
03:06:16,520 --> 03:06:20,040
Yet pure hearts will have victory. Only idealists will change

2939
03:06:20,120 --> 03:06:22,879
the world. I am writing near a rusty barrel, at

2940
03:06:22,879 --> 03:06:25,360
the bottom of which floats the last bits of step

2941
03:06:25,559 --> 03:06:29,479
grass suspended in our icy water. This poverty, this isolation,

2942
03:06:29,840 --> 03:06:33,319
we know them because we desired sincerity. And more than ever,

2943
03:06:33,639 --> 03:06:36,440
in this solitude, where bodies and hearts feel invaded by

2944
03:06:36,520 --> 03:06:41,520
mortal cold, I renew my odes of intransigence more than ever.

2945
03:06:41,920 --> 03:06:44,959
I will go straight ahead, without giving in, without rest

2946
03:06:45,120 --> 03:06:47,239
hard on my soul, heart, on my desires, heart of

2947
03:06:47,319 --> 03:06:50,280
my youth. I'd rather see ten years of cold and

2948
03:06:50,360 --> 03:06:54,040
abandonment than one day feeling my soul emptied, voided of

2949
03:06:54,079 --> 03:06:58,360
its living dreams. I write these words without trembling, which

2950
03:06:58,440 --> 03:07:02,319
nevertheless make me suffer in the hour of our world's bankruptcy.

2951
03:07:02,639 --> 03:07:05,319
Souls are needed, which may stand hard and tall as

2952
03:07:05,440 --> 03:07:14,920
rocky cliffs, beaten in vain by raging winds. Thirty the cross,

2953
03:07:16,440 --> 03:07:19,799
which moment will be our end. Death passes unresponsive and

2954
03:07:19,879 --> 03:07:23,399
his hands strangle hearts at random. The machine gun fires

2955
03:07:23,559 --> 03:07:26,559
it whizzes, it cracks, or it pierces with its deadly

2956
03:07:26,639 --> 03:07:30,440
fingers a young man's body. What to do if not

2957
03:07:30,600 --> 03:07:32,799
to have a pure heart, a quiet regard to the

2958
03:07:32,879 --> 03:07:36,920
timely sacrifice made freely. If it comes, our eyelashes will

2959
03:07:36,959 --> 03:07:39,399
not quiver, and we will leave with the faint, sad

2960
03:07:39,520 --> 03:07:42,280
smile of the tender memories to surround our last seconds.

2961
03:07:42,799 --> 03:07:45,879
If we come back, even though the warmth of life

2962
03:07:45,920 --> 03:07:48,639
will have made us forget this icy breath, our hearts

2963
03:07:48,639 --> 03:07:50,959
will forever have the composure of a life that has

2964
03:07:51,040 --> 03:07:55,760
not trembled or death. May fate always find us strong

2965
03:07:55,840 --> 03:07:58,840
and worthy. You still have to love happiness as you

2966
03:07:58,959 --> 03:08:01,319
love the song of the wind, however fleeting it may be,

2967
03:08:01,760 --> 03:08:04,000
as you love the colors of the evening, even though

2968
03:08:04,040 --> 03:08:06,719
you know they are going to die. For the great

2969
03:08:06,760 --> 03:08:09,559
winds are reborn and sing again, and every day the

2970
03:08:09,680 --> 03:08:12,440
colors return to the blazing axis of the risen sun.

2971
03:08:13,840 --> 03:08:15,799
It is up to us to keep the winds from dying,

2972
03:08:16,319 --> 03:08:18,600
or to prevent the sun from fading, but to draw

2973
03:08:18,680 --> 03:08:22,239
strength from them while they yet live. Joy is the

2974
03:08:22,319 --> 03:08:26,520
fire of indomitable heart, of indomitable hearts, and no reversal

2975
03:08:26,680 --> 03:08:30,799
can extinguish or stifle its burning colors. When you see

2976
03:08:30,840 --> 03:08:33,479
the waves retreating from the sands, returning to the dark

2977
03:08:33,559 --> 03:08:35,959
depths of the sea, think of the great outpouring that

2978
03:08:36,040 --> 03:08:39,440
will return a few hours later, white shimmering in the sun,

2979
03:08:39,760 --> 03:08:42,719
bold and strong, as if these waves were the vanguard

2980
03:08:42,799 --> 03:08:45,959
of an assault on the world itself. To be happy

2981
03:08:46,120 --> 03:08:49,959
is to be unselfish. Happiness is just that giving all

2982
03:08:50,040 --> 03:08:53,760
of one's self. There are so many mediocre things on earth,

2983
03:08:54,000 --> 03:08:57,399
low or ugly, that one day we would be overwhelmed

2984
03:08:57,920 --> 03:09:00,559
by them if we did not carry them within our ourselves.

2985
03:09:00,680 --> 03:09:04,680
The fire which burns away ugliness, which consumes it and

2986
03:09:04,799 --> 03:09:09,159
purifies us. Art is our inner salvation, our secret garden

2987
03:09:09,200 --> 03:09:13,959
that constantly refreshes and soothes us. Poetry, painting, sculpture, music,

2988
03:09:14,559 --> 03:09:17,639
anything but to escape from the mundane, to rise above

2989
03:09:17,680 --> 03:09:20,879
the drying dust, to create something grand instead of submitting

2990
03:09:20,920 --> 03:09:23,840
to the small, To let out that sparkle, the extraordinary

2991
03:09:23,879 --> 03:09:27,879
that each of us possess, and convert it into a grandiose, devouring,

2992
03:09:28,079 --> 03:09:32,520
indistinguishable fire. The dead and dark sentries are those where

2993
03:09:32,639 --> 03:09:36,840
souls hesitated before this effort. The luminous centuries are those

2994
03:09:36,920 --> 03:09:40,520
which have seen that these great fires souls mark out

2995
03:09:40,920 --> 03:09:44,840
dominate the mountains of the spirit. The only true joys

2996
03:09:44,879 --> 03:09:47,719
are not those that others give us, but those that

2997
03:09:47,840 --> 03:09:51,000
we carry within us, that our faith creates, that fill

2998
03:09:51,079 --> 03:09:54,159
us with dynamism. The rest comes from the foam of

2999
03:09:54,239 --> 03:09:56,920
the comes like the foam of the sea, shining at

3000
03:09:56,959 --> 03:09:59,159
the tip of the waves, quivering for a moment on

3001
03:09:59,239 --> 03:10:02,399
the edge of the sand, then quickly dies or withdraws

3002
03:10:02,440 --> 03:10:05,559
with the waves. This is the happiness that others bring

3003
03:10:05,680 --> 03:10:08,360
us from time to time. The joy that arises from

3004
03:10:08,399 --> 03:10:10,639
our passion for life and our will is like the

3005
03:10:10,760 --> 03:10:13,159
great force which rumbles and rolls at the bottom of

3006
03:10:13,200 --> 03:10:15,639
the sea, which springs up to meet the sun, and

3007
03:10:15,760 --> 03:10:19,159
is renewed every second. As if hanging from a boat,

3008
03:10:19,479 --> 03:10:22,159
we watch the mighty sea throw its waves like immense

3009
03:10:22,280 --> 03:10:26,120
leopard skins, spread out, supple and shiny, standing up like

3010
03:10:26,159 --> 03:10:29,879
a silver flame, or like a prodigious spray of white flowers.

3011
03:10:30,600 --> 03:10:34,879
This life, this life, constantly returns rebounds. We know that

3012
03:10:35,040 --> 03:10:38,239
nothing until the end of the world will stop this momentum.

3013
03:10:39,040 --> 03:10:41,520
So it must be our hearts brash, but like this

3014
03:10:41,719 --> 03:10:46,959
wonderful rhythmic force, ordered chanted like an eternal song. During

3015
03:10:47,000 --> 03:10:50,159
their day we are caught up in pour often trivial concerns.

3016
03:10:50,639 --> 03:10:53,639
But at night, the imagination weaves itself through our dreams,

3017
03:10:53,920 --> 03:10:57,120
takes us into it, takes us in its fantasies, its

3018
03:10:57,239 --> 03:11:03,479
reconstruction or anticipation. Sometimes I'm amazed by the relentless lucidity

3019
03:11:03,559 --> 03:11:07,879
of dreams. Of course, the dream is often a wild folly,

3020
03:11:08,040 --> 03:11:11,280
of phanfasm, but it is often also for me a

3021
03:11:11,399 --> 03:11:16,079
meeting with my conscience and with my first intuitions. I

3022
03:11:16,200 --> 03:11:19,159
see myself naturally as I am, when my will is

3023
03:11:19,239 --> 03:11:22,040
not there to lock its brakes upon the movement of

3024
03:11:22,120 --> 03:11:25,600
my passions. I then know exactly on which points I

3025
03:11:25,719 --> 03:11:29,600
doubt myself each time I must say to myself, look here,

3026
03:11:29,719 --> 03:11:33,040
you falter. I thus have the almost daily proof that

3027
03:11:33,120 --> 03:11:35,760
I can resist a thousand temptations, lead my life with

3028
03:11:35,879 --> 03:11:39,680
honor only to the extent that are renewed effort, masters

3029
03:11:39,719 --> 03:11:43,680
and restraints. Every day. Deep within myself a wild horse

3030
03:11:43,840 --> 03:11:46,360
which can never be fully tamed, and which only the

3031
03:11:46,399 --> 03:11:51,239
whip of the will, wielded unceasingly, can contain. If the

3032
03:11:51,280 --> 03:11:54,600
world were relaxed, everything would come undone. I see this

3033
03:11:54,760 --> 03:11:58,959
in my dreams will the will itself fall asleep. I

3034
03:11:59,079 --> 03:12:02,959
awake to feed the dream has cut me adrift. There

3035
03:12:03,040 --> 03:12:06,520
is no more decisive examination of conscience for me than

3036
03:12:06,559 --> 03:12:10,200
the unfolding of dreams. Dreams lay bare my soul before me,

3037
03:12:10,799 --> 03:12:13,799
leaves deep marks upon my thoughts, with the knowledge that

3038
03:12:13,879 --> 03:12:17,079
we must always be on guard over our baser impulses.

3039
03:12:17,479 --> 03:12:21,360
Because these baser elements do not naturally run towards, but

3040
03:12:21,879 --> 03:12:24,600
on the contrary, run from it as soon as they

3041
03:12:24,600 --> 03:12:28,719
are tempted by beautiful falsehoods. The soul, freed by the

3042
03:12:28,840 --> 03:12:32,520
gift it has made of itself, flies, sores and sings.

3043
03:12:33,479 --> 03:12:36,399
Because we hear within us these great songs of serenity,

3044
03:12:36,840 --> 03:12:39,440
we know that the work we embark upon will be beautiful,

3045
03:12:39,719 --> 03:12:42,040
for the great and the beautiful can only be created

3046
03:12:42,120 --> 03:12:45,239
in joy and in faith. If we love virtue only

3047
03:12:45,319 --> 03:12:48,639
insofar as it has taken notice of, we defile it

3048
03:12:48,719 --> 03:12:51,600
with pride. We are no longer virtuous the moment we

3049
03:12:51,719 --> 03:12:55,040
desire the virtue which we believe we have achieved to

3050
03:12:55,159 --> 03:12:58,840
be seen and admired. So it is with all virtues.

3051
03:12:59,440 --> 03:13:02,000
They are beautif full, soft, radiant if we love them

3052
03:13:02,079 --> 03:13:04,879
for themselves, if we cultivate them for the unique pleasure

3053
03:13:04,959 --> 03:13:07,879
of having reached them. We come to life without thinking

3054
03:13:08,040 --> 03:13:10,840
or caring that we might not be understood by others.

3055
03:13:11,520 --> 03:13:16,280
Uncomplicated hearts cannot imagine the complications of others. Fresh hearts

3056
03:13:16,319 --> 03:13:20,520
cannot imagine other hearts being hateful or defiled. Suffering is

3057
03:13:20,559 --> 03:13:24,479
the most wonderful of companions, pathetic and angelic, washing souls

3058
03:13:24,520 --> 03:13:27,120
of all desire, raising them to the heights they had

3059
03:13:27,200 --> 03:13:32,719
dreamed of for so long. Defeats, victories, dreams, or material

3060
03:13:32,840 --> 03:13:36,799
successes pass away are forgotten fires that shine for a moment,

3061
03:13:37,079 --> 03:13:40,639
since swept away by a passing wind. But the essential,

3062
03:13:40,879 --> 03:13:45,040
the unique, is for us the great spiritual conflagration, without

3063
03:13:45,399 --> 03:13:48,680
which the world is nothing. So long as there remains

3064
03:13:48,680 --> 03:13:51,120
a little fire in some corner of the world, all

3065
03:13:51,200 --> 03:13:54,840
miracles of greatness remain possible. Everything in life is a

3066
03:13:54,920 --> 03:13:57,879
matter of faith and tenacity. Trust cannot be begged for

3067
03:13:58,079 --> 03:14:00,319
it has to be won, and the best way to

3068
03:14:00,399 --> 03:14:03,399
conquer it. To conquer is to first give of yourself.

3069
03:14:04,040 --> 03:14:06,440
We all carry our cross. We must carry it with

3070
03:14:06,520 --> 03:14:08,680
a proud smile, so that we know that we are

3071
03:14:08,760 --> 03:14:12,000
stronger than suffering, and also so that those who seek

3072
03:14:12,079 --> 03:14:15,479
to harm us understand that their arrows reach us in vain.

3073
03:14:16,639 --> 03:14:18,559
What does it matter if you suffer, if you have

3074
03:14:19,239 --> 03:14:21,680
what did? What does it matter if you suffer, if

3075
03:14:21,719 --> 03:14:24,559
you have had a few immortal hours in your life,

3076
03:14:25,280 --> 03:14:26,479
at least we have lived.

3077
03:14:27,879 --> 03:14:33,000
Speaker 2: It's important, I think, to give particular attention to the

3078
03:14:33,120 --> 03:14:41,959
fact that, you know, does a basic dishonesty in the

3079
03:14:42,040 --> 03:14:47,520
way warfare is discussed, not just in the abstract, but

3080
03:14:48,360 --> 03:14:53,559
in the concrete experience of it, you know, by by uh,

3081
03:14:55,360 --> 03:14:59,719
you know, by realistic types as well as you know

3082
03:15:00,280 --> 03:15:03,319
liberals and and what remains at least of you know,

3083
03:15:03,440 --> 03:15:08,959
Marxist types and academia who you know, assigned productive force determinism,

3084
03:15:10,840 --> 03:15:14,559
you know, to their analysis of warfare and its causes

3085
03:15:14,600 --> 03:15:17,920
and it's it's systemic function, and you know, kind of

3086
03:15:18,000 --> 03:15:22,719
sociological affairs at scale, you know, by the twentieth century

3087
03:15:25,520 --> 03:15:29,200
wars of pure ideology, which is what the Grell's getting

3088
03:15:29,200 --> 03:15:33,639
at when he talks about, you know, warfare itself being

3089
03:15:33,680 --> 03:15:38,680
a revolutionary process, and all warfare by the juncture at

3090
03:15:38,719 --> 03:15:41,280
which you know, he and his mentoring the field of battle,

3091
03:15:41,559 --> 03:15:47,319
you know, being a theological crusading enterprise. That's that, that's

3092
03:15:47,559 --> 03:15:51,120
that's totally accurate. You know. That's one of the reason

3093
03:15:51,200 --> 03:15:56,319
that this bizarre. When you hear American academic types, Leather's

3094
03:15:56,319 --> 03:16:01,079
strategic forecasting types who've got, you know, their own kind

3095
03:16:01,120 --> 03:16:06,719
of conceptual biases, or they're just talking about kind of

3096
03:16:06,920 --> 03:16:09,920
you know, court historian types, they always come up short

3097
03:16:10,000 --> 03:16:13,360
in describing warfare as a process or as like an

3098
03:16:13,399 --> 03:16:17,760
ontological postulate. You know, they're always like grasping at some

3099
03:16:17,959 --> 03:16:22,639
sort of some sort of concrete variables, you know, beaut

3100
03:16:22,639 --> 03:16:27,639
of an economic nature or or there or or they're

3101
03:16:27,680 --> 03:16:34,280
falling back on on, you know, the systemic remedies assigned

3102
03:16:34,360 --> 03:16:37,760
by the system that they themselves serve, you know, in uh,

3103
03:16:38,200 --> 03:16:40,040
and in kind of you know, referring to warfare in

3104
03:16:40,120 --> 03:16:44,360
terms of legalisms, you know, and and bad actors and purportedly,

3105
03:16:44,639 --> 03:16:52,520
you know, actors who are abiding what amounts to you know, uh,

3106
03:16:53,440 --> 03:16:55,680
a juristic moral precedent. I mean, this is this is

3107
03:16:55,719 --> 03:17:01,239
incredibly misguided, even if you issue the fact that it's

3108
03:17:01,440 --> 03:17:04,120
it's at odds with you know, kind of the the

3109
03:17:04,280 --> 03:17:09,639
human reality of it. You know, nobody like World War

3110
03:17:09,719 --> 03:17:14,319
Two wasn't waged because you know, the German arch needed

3111
03:17:14,360 --> 03:17:19,760
to capture markets to to to you know, needed to

3112
03:17:19,840 --> 03:17:24,399
capture you know, destination markets for for evaluated manufacturers, you know,

3113
03:17:24,440 --> 03:17:26,639
and it was it wasn't waves because you know, the

3114
03:17:26,760 --> 03:17:28,680
like the British wanted need to guarantee that they could

3115
03:17:28,719 --> 03:17:31,760
access their rubber plantations you know that were in Japan's backyard.

3116
03:17:31,959 --> 03:17:38,159
Like that's not that's not reality, and uh, I mean

3117
03:17:38,319 --> 03:17:41,840
and this endured throughout the Cold War obviously because the

3118
03:17:43,000 --> 03:17:49,559
the the Cold War literally was ah the conflict that determined,

3119
03:17:49,760 --> 03:17:53,719
you know, what what world order would would be constituted of,

3120
03:17:54,040 --> 03:17:58,559
you know, in terms of not just concrete structures that

3121
03:17:59,399 --> 03:18:02,719
you know kind of the term and uh the you know,

3122
03:18:02,879 --> 03:18:07,079
human life and labors at scale, but also you know,

3123
03:18:07,200 --> 03:18:09,280
like what what what values for lack of a better

3124
03:18:10,680 --> 03:18:14,040
term to invoke, would would would reign and what and

3125
03:18:14,120 --> 03:18:18,319
what kind of what what conceptual horizon would would uh

3126
03:18:18,959 --> 03:18:21,319
be triumphant over all others.

3127
03:18:21,399 --> 03:18:21,559
Speaker 1: You know.

3128
03:18:21,639 --> 03:18:25,959
Speaker 2: That's why that's why America had such problems in Vietnam,

3129
03:18:26,239 --> 03:18:32,079
because it couldn't within within its own intellectual and moral paradigms,

3130
03:18:32,559 --> 03:18:35,280
like it couldn't it couldn't rationalize what it was doing

3131
03:18:36,120 --> 03:18:39,479
because uh, the war in Vietnam was an ideological war,

3132
03:18:40,200 --> 03:18:42,600
as as all twentieth century wars were, and it was

3133
03:18:42,680 --> 03:18:45,959
incidental that it took place in Southeast Asia. It was

3134
03:18:46,000 --> 03:18:48,879
incidental that, you know, the people who was waived against

3135
03:18:48,959 --> 03:18:54,319
we were easiatic and uh, the logic of that body

3136
03:18:54,440 --> 03:18:58,239
count wasn't just a performance metric of success. It was

3137
03:18:58,440 --> 03:19:02,040
and then in itself, because if you're going to eradicate communism,

3138
03:19:02,680 --> 03:19:06,200
you've got to eradicate the standard bearers of it. And

3139
03:19:07,879 --> 03:19:13,360
the standard bearers of any of any concept are human beings,

3140
03:19:13,920 --> 03:19:15,920
you know, So you're talking about the eradication of human

3141
03:19:15,959 --> 03:19:20,920
beings at scale in order to exterminate a concept and

3142
03:19:21,000 --> 03:19:28,680
the ability that concepts to exist in the world, let

3143
03:19:28,719 --> 03:19:32,680
alone constitute an enemy forced to oppose you like you're talking,

3144
03:19:32,760 --> 03:19:34,959
you're talking about the You're talking about the slaughter of

3145
03:19:35,079 --> 03:19:43,680
human beings. You know. That's why too people like another Frenchman, uh,

3146
03:19:44,520 --> 03:19:50,000
Christian dale MANZERI I'm from Butchering that pronunciation. You know.

3147
03:19:50,040 --> 03:19:52,520
He wrote the book The Captive Dreamer, and he joined

3148
03:19:52,639 --> 03:19:55,600
Uh he joined the s S late in the game.

3149
03:19:57,360 --> 03:19:59,440
I think he didn't go into action until late nineteen

3150
03:19:59,440 --> 03:20:05,600
forty four. He fought with Charlemagne, who were incidentally the

3151
03:20:06,120 --> 03:20:10,600
among the last defenders of of Berlin. But you know,

3152
03:20:10,680 --> 03:20:12,319
in this book he made that point that it was

3153
03:20:12,920 --> 03:20:16,600
you know, he heven it was clear that Europe was

3154
03:20:16,639 --> 03:20:20,360
going down. You know, He's like, I, I wasn't, I

3155
03:20:20,680 --> 03:20:23,719
wasn't gonna not participate in, you know, in in the

3156
03:20:23,799 --> 03:20:27,559
crusade to save it from you know, it's it's it's

3157
03:20:27,600 --> 03:20:35,719
ideological and racial enemies, and that that that's you know,

3158
03:20:35,799 --> 03:20:39,440
that's very much a crusader spirit, and that's really the

3159
03:20:39,520 --> 03:20:43,680
only spirit that they can animate people at scale towards

3160
03:20:43,760 --> 03:20:50,000
a modern war and in turn, at least in some

3161
03:20:50,079 --> 03:20:51,520
of the stakes that were on the table for the

3162
03:20:52,959 --> 03:20:55,760
for the Germans and for the Russians. You know, it's

3163
03:20:55,760 --> 03:20:59,840
a little more complicated when you deal with America insinuating

3164
03:21:00,079 --> 03:21:02,440
off into these wars of choice. But that that's kind

3165
03:21:02,440 --> 03:21:05,040
of a different thing. I mean, that's that's born it's

3166
03:21:05,079 --> 03:21:08,559
born of a I mean of a purely ideological imperative

3167
03:21:08,600 --> 03:21:14,120
as well. But there's there's a complexity there that is

3168
03:21:14,319 --> 03:21:18,000
the subject for a different discussion. But no, that's all

3169
03:21:18,040 --> 03:21:19,920
I had, That's all I had to contribute right now.

3170
03:21:22,920 --> 03:21:26,879
Speaker 1: All right, the final part part six to give completely

3171
03:21:29,079 --> 03:21:33,760
Part thirty one the reconquest, the turmoil that agitates public opinion.

3172
03:21:34,000 --> 03:21:38,040
The wars of shake up nations are just episodes. Partial

3173
03:21:38,120 --> 03:21:42,120
reforms will do away with such periodic chaos. To attempt

3174
03:21:42,159 --> 03:21:44,959
to change people would be a very disappointing work if

3175
03:21:45,000 --> 03:21:48,239
it were, if it were not accompanied by the essential

3176
03:21:48,280 --> 03:21:50,760
work of changing that which lies deep in the soul,

3177
03:21:51,200 --> 03:21:54,440
by a transformation of the very foundations of our times.

3178
03:21:55,680 --> 03:21:59,360
All the scandals, the decline of honesty and honor, shamelessness

3179
03:21:59,520 --> 03:22:04,000
in the in the certainty of impunity, the passion for

3180
03:22:04,159 --> 03:22:09,239
money which sweeps away conventions, dignity, self respect, ammorality which

3181
03:22:09,280 --> 03:22:13,719
has become uncons unconscious, indicate the existence of a deep

3182
03:22:13,799 --> 03:22:17,920
seated evil which calls for remedies of equal magnitude. It

3183
03:22:18,040 --> 03:22:20,799
is not suddenly that we lie, that we break all

3184
03:22:20,920 --> 03:22:25,280
moral laws, supernatural or natural, and more simply the laws

3185
03:22:25,319 --> 03:22:27,879
of the public code. It is not overnight that you

3186
03:22:28,000 --> 03:22:31,280
work yourself up to bold hypocrisy, to speak truth only

3187
03:22:31,360 --> 03:22:37,120
with reticence, to lie with virtuous words. This deformation of consciousness,

3188
03:22:37,239 --> 03:22:41,280
which amazes, which frightens today, or which puts on an

3189
03:22:41,360 --> 03:22:45,200
air of sarcastic superiority, is the only conclusion of a

3190
03:22:45,319 --> 03:22:49,840
long decline in human virtues. It is the passion for wealth,

3191
03:22:50,159 --> 03:22:52,639
the will to be powerful no matter what, it is,

3192
03:22:52,719 --> 03:22:55,840
the frenzy to be honored. It is materialism. It is

3193
03:22:55,920 --> 03:23:00,479
the unscrupulous gratification of instincts which have corrupted men, and

3194
03:23:00,680 --> 03:23:05,479
through men institutions. The world is more and more preoccupied

3195
03:23:05,520 --> 03:23:10,200
with banal, material or simply animal joys. It maintains itself

3196
03:23:10,280 --> 03:23:14,520
only by the principle of maximizing material wealth. Each man

3197
03:23:14,639 --> 03:23:17,799
lives only for himself and allows a domination of life

3198
03:23:17,879 --> 03:23:21,000
both within his own home and within the country by

3199
03:23:21,120 --> 03:23:26,000
a constant egoism which has converted men into hateful, embittered,

3200
03:23:26,200 --> 03:23:31,440
greedy wolves, or corrupt and soulaced half men. We will

3201
03:23:31,479 --> 03:23:34,639
come out of this downfall only through an immense moral recovery,

3202
03:23:35,079 --> 03:23:38,639
by reteaching men to love, to sacrifice themselves, to live,

3203
03:23:38,879 --> 03:23:41,840
to struggle, and to die for a higher ideal. In

3204
03:23:41,920 --> 03:23:44,520
a century when we live only for ourselves, it will

3205
03:23:44,559 --> 03:23:47,600
take hundreds thousands of men to live no longer for

3206
03:23:47,680 --> 03:23:51,600
themselves but for a collective ideal, Accepting in advance all

3207
03:23:51,639 --> 03:23:56,920
the sacrifices, all the humiliations, all necessary heroism. All that

3208
03:23:57,000 --> 03:24:01,079
matters is faith, brilliant confidence, the come complete absence of

3209
03:24:01,319 --> 03:24:06,040
selfishness and individualism, the pulling of the whole being towards

3210
03:24:06,120 --> 03:24:10,159
service without promise of reward in any place by any means,

3211
03:24:10,440 --> 03:24:13,799
toward a cause that goes beyond men asking him everything,

3212
03:24:14,120 --> 03:24:17,879
promising him nothing. The only things that count are the

3213
03:24:17,959 --> 03:24:23,159
quality of the soul, the pulse, the total gift, the

3214
03:24:23,280 --> 03:24:26,079
will to hoist an ideal above all else, in the

3215
03:24:26,159 --> 03:24:30,200
most absolute selflessness. The time is coming when saving the

3216
03:24:30,280 --> 03:24:33,639
world will require this handful of heroes and saints to

3217
03:24:33,760 --> 03:24:41,760
make the great reconquest thirty two flotilla of souls. Nations

3218
03:24:41,799 --> 03:24:46,079
recover rapidly from financial setbacks, they may reconstitute without too

3219
03:24:46,159 --> 03:24:49,920
much difficulty a new political framework. All that is needed

3220
03:24:50,000 --> 03:24:54,639
is skilled technicians and a willingness to work together. Revolutions

3221
03:24:54,680 --> 03:24:58,600
are not political or economic. They are small revolutions, changes

3222
03:24:58,680 --> 03:25:02,520
of purely mechanical needs. When the specialists put the pieces together,

3223
03:25:02,719 --> 03:25:05,680
when the engines have found their rhythm, and sternfaced foreman

3224
03:25:06,200 --> 03:25:09,520
have been set to watch over them, the material revolution

3225
03:25:09,760 --> 03:25:13,520
is accomplished. The rest will only require repairs from time

3226
03:25:13,559 --> 03:25:16,959
to time, a modification here and there. The machine is

3227
03:25:17,040 --> 03:25:22,559
fitted or overhauled, the gears turn most of the work

3228
03:25:22,719 --> 03:25:26,360
is done. The real revolution is far more complicated, one

3229
03:25:26,399 --> 03:25:28,879
which brings together not the machinery of the state, but

3230
03:25:29,000 --> 03:25:33,639
the secret life of every soul. There it is no

3231
03:25:33,799 --> 03:25:37,399
longer a matter of automatic review and monitoring. It is

3232
03:25:37,440 --> 03:25:40,920
about the vices and the virtues, the impulses towards profundity

3233
03:25:41,200 --> 03:25:44,520
and weaknesses, the desperate hopes that are so dear to us.

3234
03:25:46,319 --> 03:25:48,840
What is there at the bottom of that gaze, behind

3235
03:25:48,920 --> 03:25:51,280
those eyes that remained on us for a long moment,

3236
03:25:51,639 --> 03:25:55,959
as if great secrets lie upon our eyelids, A hidden heart,

3237
03:25:56,120 --> 03:26:01,319
a soul, its secret crises, its outbursts, its despairs, the

3238
03:26:01,479 --> 03:26:04,840
desire of the body, and its indelible decline, the sorrows

3239
03:26:04,920 --> 03:26:07,600
that are so difficult to hide or guess at. The

3240
03:26:07,799 --> 03:26:11,280
uncertain and troubled struggle towards happiness is the great drama

3241
03:26:11,399 --> 03:26:16,120
of men. But there too is the real revolution, bringing

3242
03:26:16,200 --> 03:26:18,479
light to spirits caught in the shadows, to aid in

3243
03:26:18,559 --> 03:26:22,520
the restoration of failing souls, to relearn that we consist

3244
03:26:22,600 --> 03:26:25,799
of more than just a body. To perfect the imperfect,

3245
03:26:26,319 --> 03:26:29,799
to rise to heights of virtue, no matter how great

3246
03:26:29,840 --> 03:26:33,239
are the efforts required of us, The revolution alone can

3247
03:26:33,280 --> 03:26:37,079
be enchancing but terrifying. We all walk through a labyrinth,

3248
03:26:37,799 --> 03:26:43,280
that thin bowed head, and that beautiful golden hair, laughter

3249
03:26:43,600 --> 03:26:47,319
that bursts too suddenly, that arm that descends ten faces,

3250
03:26:47,760 --> 03:26:51,959
ten abysses. Who cheats us, who is mistaken? Who seeks

3251
03:26:52,000 --> 03:26:55,840
to deceive us? We only see the deceptive shadows of beings.

3252
03:26:56,200 --> 03:27:00,719
Everyone tries to deceive themselves, to deceive others by simplifications

3253
03:27:01,040 --> 03:27:04,680
and by more or less skillful artifices. And it is

3254
03:27:04,760 --> 03:27:08,319
among these subter futures, however, that we must advance. Our

3255
03:27:08,440 --> 03:27:11,879
flames burning white in the darkest night. What is there

3256
03:27:11,959 --> 03:27:15,680
to take hold of? What can we do about these beings?

3257
03:27:15,719 --> 03:27:19,959
Who are to who? To our impotent eyes appear only mysteries.

3258
03:27:20,239 --> 03:27:22,879
Mystery is all the more poignant as we observe their laughter,

3259
03:27:23,399 --> 03:27:29,479
vivacious eyes, pale foreheads, this soft caress of flowing hair, which,

3260
03:27:29,559 --> 03:27:34,120
with joyful light, oppose all our regrets, anguish, weariness, and corruptions.

3261
03:27:35,159 --> 03:27:38,879
We all make our way along distant paths. The bottoms

3262
03:27:38,920 --> 03:27:41,920
of our hearts. Alone know our true face, the false

3263
03:27:41,959 --> 03:27:45,120
secrets of our soul, its hopes and faults, our true joys,

3264
03:27:45,200 --> 03:27:48,680
and our true sorrows. There were so many joys and

3265
03:27:48,760 --> 03:27:51,799
so many tears that the others thought they knew, shared

3266
03:27:51,959 --> 03:27:56,959
and assuaged. We look, in the hours of solitude, at

3267
03:27:57,040 --> 03:28:00,440
our real selves, where no one else alas never go.

3268
03:28:01,319 --> 03:28:04,559
This innerself tells us who he loves and to whom

3269
03:28:04,639 --> 03:28:08,159
he belongs, what overwhelms him and causes him to stumble,

3270
03:28:08,479 --> 03:28:11,319
and tells us what raises up his spirit. Perhaps if

3271
03:28:11,399 --> 03:28:15,200
by fortune, the breath of truth brushes aside the invisible veil,

3272
03:28:16,520 --> 03:28:19,639
to be this current, this great, warm and long wind,

3273
03:28:19,719 --> 03:28:22,799
which rises from the depths of our spiritual horizons, which

3274
03:28:22,879 --> 03:28:25,959
gives souls, this first movement. All of a sudden, the

3275
03:28:26,040 --> 03:28:29,959
sail undergoes an impalpable swelling, rounding off in the light.

3276
03:28:31,200 --> 03:28:34,360
The whole slips across still waters. The inflection of the

3277
03:28:34,440 --> 03:28:37,719
white sails gently pushes the air away. We think of

3278
03:28:37,799 --> 03:28:41,639
those thousands of motionless sails, waiting for what will give them,

3279
03:28:41,840 --> 03:28:46,040
imperceptibly at first, then with quivering forth life and movement,

3280
03:28:46,200 --> 03:28:48,959
the joy of moving through air and water, advancing through

3281
03:28:49,000 --> 03:28:52,200
the clear line of the horizon in the distance. The

3282
03:28:52,319 --> 03:28:56,040
boats are heavy, the water is dark and sluggish, everything

3283
03:28:56,159 --> 03:28:59,360
is silent. Be this breath that will come at last,

3284
03:28:59,440 --> 03:29:02,600
to rouse these souls, to push them off, clumsy at first,

3285
03:29:02,920 --> 03:29:06,559
left after so much waiting and stagnation, then happy and firm.

3286
03:29:06,719 --> 03:29:08,799
Is to strength that sustains them, and the life that

3287
03:29:08,879 --> 03:29:12,479
revives them is confirmed. Show all these beings that existence

3288
03:29:12,559 --> 03:29:15,680
can be beautiful and pure and great, even after all

3289
03:29:15,719 --> 03:29:18,799
the weaknesses and all the disenchantments. To bring up from

3290
03:29:18,840 --> 03:29:22,159
these drier, numb or perverted hearts, the fountain of renewal.

3291
03:29:22,639 --> 03:29:25,239
This is the task, the real one, the hard one,

3292
03:29:25,440 --> 03:29:30,159
the necessary task, terrible task. We would like to take

3293
03:29:30,200 --> 03:29:32,760
these half dead people in our arms, look deeply into

3294
03:29:32,799 --> 03:29:36,399
their eyes, ward off these creeping doubts and hesitations, to

3295
03:29:36,520 --> 03:29:39,639
run our trembling fingers through their silken hair. But what

3296
03:29:39,760 --> 03:29:42,280
a stir upon meeting those eyes which return the light

3297
03:29:42,360 --> 03:29:46,000
of others, those eyes which show us so quickly from

3298
03:29:46,040 --> 03:29:49,399
their first lie or their first confession, the confusion that

3299
03:29:49,520 --> 03:29:53,479
inhibits us ourselves, how to look at a face without

3300
03:29:53,520 --> 03:29:57,719
hearing cruel questions? Are you lying? How shall you fare

3301
03:29:57,840 --> 03:30:01,040
under fire? Under privations of the flesh? And what will

3302
03:30:01,079 --> 03:30:05,200
remain tomorrow of the hopes and aspirations, painfully suspended buoyed

3303
03:30:05,280 --> 03:30:09,159
by this gaze, the source of all redemption lies there, however,

3304
03:30:09,680 --> 03:30:12,280
to give life to drifting souls, to calm the storms

3305
03:30:12,319 --> 03:30:15,319
which break their masts and tear their sails, to give

3306
03:30:15,360 --> 03:30:18,120
them sun and breath, to make serene the seas of men,

3307
03:30:18,559 --> 03:30:21,319
to make their horizon clear, free from the shadows and

3308
03:30:21,399 --> 03:30:27,600
perils of violent and tormented skies. Breathe resume, believing in virtues,

3309
03:30:27,959 --> 03:30:32,520
in beauty and goodness, in love. Feel dancing around you

3310
03:30:32,840 --> 03:30:35,760
on the waves, a thousand other sails full of wind,

3311
03:30:36,079 --> 03:30:39,520
carried with the same momentum, towards the same call when

3312
03:30:39,559 --> 03:30:43,000
the Golden Sea. When the Golden Sea sees these white

3313
03:30:43,040 --> 03:30:46,040
sails rush forth, the revolution will be on its way,

3314
03:30:46,520 --> 03:30:55,239
carried onwards by this flotilla of souls thirty three summits.

3315
03:30:57,280 --> 03:31:00,079
Your road is hard, you come short of breath. There

3316
03:31:00,120 --> 03:31:01,840
are times when you would like to throw away this

3317
03:31:01,959 --> 03:31:04,959
burden that weighs you down. Let yourself go downhill and

3318
03:31:05,040 --> 03:31:08,239
return to those idyllic farms that welcome you back. At

3319
03:31:08,239 --> 03:31:10,600
the bottom of the hill, blue streams against the green

3320
03:31:10,680 --> 03:31:14,079
and gray backgrounds of meadows and slate roofs. You feel

3321
03:31:14,159 --> 03:31:17,280
nostalgic for the quiet waters and the clear rushes, the

3322
03:31:17,399 --> 03:31:20,479
ore that lapse against the surface, the flat, effortless path

3323
03:31:20,559 --> 03:31:23,200
along the banks. We would like to think of nothing.

3324
03:31:23,639 --> 03:31:25,840
Wash away the memories of men from your thoughts, and

3325
03:31:26,360 --> 03:31:29,239
with your back against the grass, watch the passing sky,

3326
03:31:29,600 --> 03:31:34,200
lightened by flocks of birds. No more weariness. You won't

3327
03:31:34,280 --> 03:31:36,399
let go of your bag and your stick. You won't

3328
03:31:36,440 --> 03:31:39,479
attend to your bleeding knees. You won't listen to the

3329
03:31:39,559 --> 03:31:42,360
clamor of hatred. You won't look at the smiling eyes

3330
03:31:42,399 --> 03:31:45,799
and the wickedness they hide. It is to the summit

3331
03:31:45,920 --> 03:31:49,000
that you must cast your eyes. Your body should live

3332
03:31:49,200 --> 03:31:52,799
only for these twisting paths. Your heart should dream only

3333
03:31:52,959 --> 03:31:55,360
of these heights, that you and the others should reach

3334
03:31:56,200 --> 03:31:57,959
what lies at the root of your what lies at

3335
03:31:58,000 --> 03:32:00,799
the root of your confusion. I thought you would find

3336
03:32:00,959 --> 03:32:04,399
immediate joys in climbing this pathole on the sea and

3337
03:32:04,559 --> 03:32:08,319
raising this human host. You have often suffered. Sometimes you

3338
03:32:08,360 --> 03:32:11,559
feel nauseous. Yet you needed it. You had to learn

3339
03:32:11,639 --> 03:32:14,120
that ambition does not pay off, that sooner or later

3340
03:32:14,200 --> 03:32:17,360
it tires out the heart it possesses. You know it now.

3341
03:32:18,319 --> 03:32:21,120
You know that you should not expect any constant joy

3342
03:32:21,200 --> 03:32:24,799
from outside. You have learned to doubt the comfort of men.

3343
03:32:25,159 --> 03:32:28,040
Your face is flushed, not from the tenderness they gave you,

3344
03:32:28,520 --> 03:32:30,399
but from the blows that you were dealt by them.

3345
03:32:31,000 --> 03:32:33,639
Of course, you did not think it, would you imagine

3346
03:32:33,639 --> 03:32:35,959
that along the road your hands and eyes would find

3347
03:32:36,360 --> 03:32:40,920
what you so feverishly desired. You look back and you say,

3348
03:32:41,520 --> 03:32:45,360
I am going back down. No, it is only then

3349
03:32:45,440 --> 03:32:48,440
that life becomes noble, when it beats you down, when

3350
03:32:48,479 --> 03:32:51,799
you no longer having the enthusiasm to carry on. Do

3351
03:32:51,879 --> 03:32:54,840
you remember the early days you wanted a very beautiful climb.

3352
03:32:54,879 --> 03:32:57,440
It is true you were leaving this way to free

3353
03:32:57,520 --> 03:33:02,280
your soul. You knew that men must always overcome his limitations.

3354
03:33:02,719 --> 03:33:06,000
Didn't you believe in this obscure pleasure of honor and discipline?

3355
03:33:06,360 --> 03:33:09,399
Are you crying out? You did not think for it

3356
03:33:09,520 --> 03:33:14,159
to be like this. You rejected comfort with sincere enough words,

3357
03:33:14,600 --> 03:33:16,879
but it still hemmed the edges of your actions, as

3358
03:33:16,959 --> 03:33:20,239
to foam borders the edge of the sea. You honestly

3359
03:33:20,319 --> 03:33:23,159
thought that you only lived for this threat of light,

3360
03:33:23,559 --> 03:33:26,319
beautiful only from afar, on the edge of the sands.

3361
03:33:26,840 --> 03:33:30,120
The temptation was there in your heart. You wanted something grand,

3362
03:33:30,399 --> 03:33:33,280
something real, But you still had the thought of yourself

3363
03:33:33,399 --> 03:33:36,319
near you. You announced your readiness to do your duty,

3364
03:33:36,680 --> 03:33:39,639
but you made this silent addition that to fulfill your

3365
03:33:39,760 --> 03:33:42,799
duty would bring glory to your name and satisfy your

3366
03:33:42,840 --> 03:33:47,520
own desires, would make you golden with pride. It's because

3367
03:33:47,559 --> 03:33:50,479
you don't see this phantasm before you anymore, that your

3368
03:33:50,559 --> 03:33:53,799
eyes reflect only shadows. You are looking in the dark,

3369
03:33:54,559 --> 03:33:58,079
confront it the fact that you loved something false. Those

3370
03:33:58,120 --> 03:34:03,239
who have disgusted, those who have disgusted you one hundred times,

3371
03:34:03,399 --> 03:34:06,399
with their wickedness and injustice, have carried you more than

3372
03:34:06,479 --> 03:34:09,920
your own strength. Are you giving up? You give your

3373
03:34:10,000 --> 03:34:12,520
flesh and your breath, your heart, and your mind, and

3374
03:34:12,639 --> 03:34:15,360
you think now it is all in vain, in vain?

3375
03:34:15,959 --> 03:34:18,479
Why because you no longer give them in service and

3376
03:34:18,559 --> 03:34:21,600
your selfish pride. Only now can you start to give

3377
03:34:21,639 --> 03:34:25,360
of yourself. That wickedness had to overwhelm you. By the

3378
03:34:25,440 --> 03:34:27,920
time you were almost fainting at the end of your effort,

3379
03:34:28,239 --> 03:34:30,920
the jeers would rise, and contempt would drive you on.

3380
03:34:31,760 --> 03:34:34,959
It was necessary that all your gestures of love be

3381
03:34:35,079 --> 03:34:38,280
covered with hatred, that all your impulses be soiled, that

3382
03:34:38,479 --> 03:34:41,319
each throbbing of your heart command the new blow to

3383
03:34:41,399 --> 03:34:44,799
fall upon your face. You have known so many times,

3384
03:34:44,959 --> 03:34:47,959
those exhausting last few meters where you smiled on the

3385
03:34:48,040 --> 03:34:51,200
threshold of the gold, despite your sweat and your parlor.

3386
03:34:52,000 --> 03:34:55,239
The next moment you were falling among the rocks, betrayed

3387
03:34:55,239 --> 03:34:58,520
by your own, overwhelmed by the others. Everything had to

3388
03:34:58,600 --> 03:35:02,639
be redone and always, the charming emptiness of the valley

3389
03:35:02,680 --> 03:35:06,399
below hailed you. The trembling poplars called you like a

3390
03:35:06,479 --> 03:35:09,520
line of ships on the sea of easy days. You

3391
03:35:09,680 --> 03:35:12,760
suffered from the harshness of the fighting. You said to yourself,

3392
03:35:12,959 --> 03:35:16,000
whatever the victory, the price is too expensive, and I

3393
03:35:16,120 --> 03:35:19,440
no longer desire it. You always thought of yourself, Yes,

3394
03:35:19,680 --> 03:35:22,479
for you, for the human pleasure of having reached the top.

3395
03:35:22,840 --> 03:35:25,879
You made a fool's bargain. But if life had not

3396
03:35:25,959 --> 03:35:29,159
slapped you a hundred times, which you ever have understood

3397
03:35:29,639 --> 03:35:33,239
that there are other pleasures than pride, than smiles, than glory.

3398
03:35:33,959 --> 03:35:36,840
You have felt the hypocrisy of so many faces around you.

3399
03:35:37,360 --> 03:35:40,079
You have guessed all the lies, all the gall all

3400
03:35:40,159 --> 03:35:42,840
the meanness that is in store for you. Every time

3401
03:35:42,920 --> 03:35:46,920
you start climbing again, you are no longer entitled to anything.

3402
03:35:47,479 --> 03:35:50,920
You hear the swarm of slithering horrors. You know you

3403
03:35:51,000 --> 03:35:54,280
will go through with the objection, and with the objection anyway.

3404
03:35:54,840 --> 03:35:58,200
It is at the hour when you have given everything

3405
03:35:58,440 --> 03:36:01,280
that you will be said to be greedy. It is

3406
03:36:01,360 --> 03:36:03,600
at the hour when your heart will suffer the most

3407
03:36:03,639 --> 03:36:08,000
abandonment that will be given the basest of demands. You

3408
03:36:08,120 --> 03:36:10,440
turn around with tears that well up in spite of you.

3409
03:36:10,959 --> 03:36:14,719
Why are you still thinking of yourself? Do you still

3410
03:36:14,760 --> 03:36:17,959
suffer from injustice? Is it all about you? How hard

3411
03:36:18,040 --> 03:36:20,920
is it to be free from our humanity? Let them

3412
03:36:21,000 --> 03:36:23,959
come crashing down on your life like jackals, Let them

3413
03:36:24,040 --> 03:36:26,879
trample your dreams, Let them open your heart to all

3414
03:36:26,959 --> 03:36:33,719
the winds. Suffer from being thrown to the beasts of envy, calumny, baseness,

3415
03:36:34,399 --> 03:36:37,319
endure above all. And this is what bruises the most.

3416
03:36:37,520 --> 03:36:39,799
That at the moment when you cannot take it any longer,

3417
03:36:39,879 --> 03:36:42,600
when your knees bend, when your eyes cast about for

3418
03:36:42,680 --> 03:36:45,200
a supportive look, your arm search for and ard in

3419
03:36:45,319 --> 03:36:48,280
hand support, while you are hanging on a word, a

3420
03:36:48,399 --> 03:36:52,840
look that this word falls down to break you, that

3421
03:36:53,000 --> 03:36:55,520
look to hurt you, Except that it is those who

3422
03:36:55,600 --> 03:36:58,200
are closest to you who finish you off those to

3423
03:36:58,280 --> 03:37:02,079
whom you had left everything you love, so naively, without

3424
03:37:02,120 --> 03:37:09,000
reserve and without hesitation, your eyes have a bewilderment worse

3425
03:37:09,040 --> 03:37:12,959
than tears. Do not cry out. Expect that everything you

3426
03:37:13,079 --> 03:37:16,840
suffered yesterday tomorrow will be renewed. Accept this in advance.

3427
03:37:17,280 --> 03:37:19,319
Do not even turn around when you hear that step

3428
03:37:19,440 --> 03:37:23,600
behind you. Bless the blows received, Love those who will

3429
03:37:23,639 --> 03:37:27,120
bring them. They are more useful to you than a

3430
03:37:27,200 --> 03:37:30,840
thousand hearts. That love you did you get it you

3431
03:37:30,920 --> 03:37:34,319
may find tomorrow, or perhaps you may have found already

3432
03:37:34,639 --> 03:37:36,959
that tenderness that comes see you like a breath of

3433
03:37:37,079 --> 03:37:39,520
fresh air, or like the scent of a cluster of

3434
03:37:39,600 --> 03:37:43,040
country flowers. You are now without weakness in front of them.

3435
03:37:43,520 --> 03:37:46,719
You will only enjoy dignity. Dignity to the extent that,

3436
03:37:47,159 --> 03:37:50,319
by dints of suffering you have learned to do. Without it,

3437
03:37:52,360 --> 03:37:54,840
This you would never have obtained had you not paid

3438
03:37:54,879 --> 03:37:58,639
the price one hundred times, hundreds of times, without ever

3439
03:37:58,760 --> 03:38:03,760
being sure of receiving anything in return. If one day

3440
03:38:03,799 --> 03:38:06,879
this appears to you, enjoy it as a sublime landscape

3441
03:38:06,920 --> 03:38:10,520
glimpsed in passing. But it is not for this that

3442
03:38:10,639 --> 03:38:13,120
you came. It is the air. It is the light

3443
03:38:13,200 --> 03:38:16,079
of the Summit's calling you. You are breathing better already

3444
03:38:16,440 --> 03:38:19,680
You will slowly attain true joy at those great peaks

3445
03:38:19,719 --> 03:38:24,360
of consciousness, shining unsullied. Think only of this, see only this,

3446
03:38:24,799 --> 03:38:28,760
Try to get there, light, pure, radiant, with sunlight. It

3447
03:38:28,920 --> 03:38:31,159
is your weaknesses and your faults on which you should

3448
03:38:31,200 --> 03:38:34,959
weigh on them alone, your pride, your name. The vain

3449
03:38:35,040 --> 03:38:38,159
appeals of the departing men, throw them beyond the rocks.

3450
03:38:38,760 --> 03:38:41,479
Did you hear them break as they bounce down the slope?

3451
03:38:42,000 --> 03:38:46,719
May it all perish. May bitterness and abandonment instead of rebellion,

3452
03:38:47,120 --> 03:38:50,200
keep you on the path. These two howling dogs are

3453
03:38:50,200 --> 03:38:53,079
the guardians of the herd of your thoughts. Without them

3454
03:38:53,120 --> 03:38:55,639
you would stop, you would pull away. Do not waste

3455
03:38:55,680 --> 03:38:58,799
a moment. It is far, and you must reach the summit.

3456
03:39:00,000 --> 03:39:02,840
They reach, these pure immensities behind you will be a

3457
03:39:02,920 --> 03:39:06,520
great silence. All those who screamed after you, who hated

3458
03:39:06,719 --> 03:39:09,799
or trampled you, despite the smiles on their faces, all

3459
03:39:09,879 --> 03:39:13,239
those who just to strike at you, followed you on

3460
03:39:13,360 --> 03:39:16,239
the road, will suddenly realize that at this game they

3461
03:39:16,360 --> 03:39:19,200
have they too, have reached the snows, the new air,

3462
03:39:19,360 --> 03:39:22,200
and the horizons cut out in the sky. They will

3463
03:39:22,239 --> 03:39:25,440
forget to hate you. They will have wonderfully childish eyes.

3464
03:39:26,520 --> 03:39:29,639
They will discover the essential. Their souls will have been

3465
03:39:29,719 --> 03:39:33,000
lifted to heights they would never have agreed to reach

3466
03:39:34,159 --> 03:39:37,239
if your back, that had received their blows had not

3467
03:39:37,559 --> 03:39:40,920
hidden the length of the road. So you will have

3468
03:39:41,079 --> 03:39:44,399
it your victory. You will be able, having given the

3469
03:39:44,520 --> 03:39:48,239
final effort, suddenly to fall, arms outstretched from the top

3470
03:39:48,280 --> 03:39:51,600
of the mountain into the rocks below. You will be done.

3471
03:39:52,159 --> 03:39:54,799
You will have one reaching the end of your own

3472
03:39:54,879 --> 03:39:57,840
journey by the last effort. Will no longer matter if

3473
03:39:57,879 --> 03:40:00,399
the others are there on the brink of the of

3474
03:40:00,559 --> 03:40:04,559
the pure immensities of redemption. You are so happy, deep

3475
03:40:04,680 --> 03:40:09,719
down you know that only happiness is there. Sing, may

3476
03:40:09,760 --> 03:40:13,360
your voice thunder in the valleys, regrets in tears. The

3477
03:40:13,440 --> 03:40:16,680
most unremarkable man among you has suffered this, and you

3478
03:40:16,719 --> 03:40:20,159
would reject him. The hardest thing is done. Hold on,

3479
03:40:20,520 --> 03:40:24,399
clench your teeth, silence your heart, think only of the top.

3480
03:40:25,079 --> 03:40:25,440
Speaker 2: Go up.

3481
03:40:26,559 --> 03:40:29,319
Speaker 1: And that is the message from mister de Greel.

3482
03:40:30,760 --> 03:40:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite it's a there's a positive tendency I've

3483
03:40:36,959 --> 03:40:41,799
discerned there's a lot more people taking an interest in

3484
03:40:44,920 --> 03:40:51,360
not just revisionist topics, but you know, real testimony of

3485
03:40:53,399 --> 03:40:59,360
of officers and men who who fought for the German

3486
03:40:59,440 --> 03:41:08,879
Reich and affiliated adjacent forces. It's not unlike the kind

3487
03:41:08,920 --> 03:41:12,879
of renaissance of lost cause of historians in the nineteen eighties,

3488
03:41:13,399 --> 03:41:18,280
who uh, that's when Shelby Foot became really kind of popular.

3489
03:41:18,319 --> 03:41:22,600
And that's also when The Killer Angels became this beloved book.

3490
03:41:25,079 --> 03:41:27,680
And kind of the tail end of that was when

3491
03:41:29,520 --> 03:41:32,920
you know, The Killer Angels was made into Gettysburg, which

3492
03:41:32,959 --> 03:41:35,600
people have mixed feelings about that movie, but you know,

3493
03:41:35,680 --> 03:41:38,360
the very early nineties was kind of the the end

3494
03:41:38,440 --> 03:41:43,719
of that sort of tendency, both in in in war

3495
03:41:43,799 --> 03:41:47,479
academia as well as in kind of pop culture. But

3496
03:41:48,639 --> 03:41:54,120
obviously that that's got profound implications. That's something similar to

3497
03:41:54,200 --> 03:41:59,920
underway visa the the German Reich and the experience of

3498
03:42:00,000 --> 03:42:03,879
World War Two, and that, I mean, that's very exciting

3499
03:42:03,920 --> 03:42:08,319
and it's very much corrective because it's not this this

3500
03:42:08,399 --> 03:42:12,879
stuff directly impacts the structure of the world we live in,

3501
03:42:13,200 --> 03:42:21,399
you know, conceptually, physically, you know, every every way you

3502
03:42:21,440 --> 03:42:29,600
can imagine. So the fact that the fact that you know,

3503
03:42:29,920 --> 03:42:32,360
it's it's not ever we got the ability to kind

3504
03:42:32,360 --> 03:42:38,319
of fascinate the public imagination to the point that you know,

3505
03:42:39,559 --> 03:42:44,920
not only are revisionist perspectives crowded out, but that it's unthinkable,

3506
03:42:45,200 --> 03:42:49,440
you know, on in as regards the prevailing morality. For

3507
03:42:49,760 --> 03:42:52,760
you know, any any kinntervailing narrative is going to enter

3508
03:42:54,159 --> 03:42:58,040
public spaces just perfectly speaking, is or was it the

3509
03:42:58,079 --> 03:43:00,280
sea change? But it's very exciting. So yeah, I think

3510
03:43:00,319 --> 03:43:04,799
it's important to make people aware of stuff like the

3511
03:43:04,840 --> 03:43:07,920
Grill's memoir because again too, Debrill is obviously like a

3512
03:43:07,959 --> 03:43:10,479
man out letter isn't very much you know, like a

3513
03:43:10,559 --> 03:43:15,799
cultured European type. And you know that's people that even

3514
03:43:15,840 --> 03:43:20,040
people are sympathetic to the to the axis cause in history,

3515
03:43:20,479 --> 03:43:22,920
they've got a sense of the thet they got a

3516
03:43:22,959 --> 03:43:25,799
sense of the Germans is being consessed of a certain

3517
03:43:25,879 --> 03:43:30,719
kind of rigidity in their cultural output, which is not

3518
03:43:30,959 --> 03:43:33,079
entirely fair, but I understand why they think that. But yeah,

3519
03:43:33,159 --> 03:43:33,840
that was great man.

3520
03:43:34,559 --> 03:43:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. The what it really makes me think is that

3521
03:43:39,239 --> 03:43:42,959
those people who are waking up to it, who are

3522
03:43:43,680 --> 03:43:49,479
genuinely seeking the kind of enlightenment that someone like mister

3523
03:43:49,559 --> 03:43:54,399
de Garrell had, they really need to put aside their

3524
03:43:54,840 --> 03:43:59,799
pet causes, especially if their pet causes are divisive.

3525
03:44:01,040 --> 03:44:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's also too like these people they're not

3526
03:44:07,000 --> 03:44:11,000
you know, like where the rubber meets the road, people

3527
03:44:11,079 --> 03:44:16,600
like they grow are they're uh, they're they're ethical plantments

3528
03:44:16,639 --> 03:44:22,239
as wellth their ascetic ones were informed pretty much by idealism,

3529
03:44:22,399 --> 03:44:25,360
but it's through a filter of concrete political realities. And

3530
03:44:26,000 --> 03:44:29,000
like most of these like most of these guys, most

3531
03:44:29,040 --> 03:44:30,959
of these guys who are the most kind of stalwart

3532
03:44:31,040 --> 03:44:35,959
proponents these divisive pedodiologies, like it's there their creatures who

3533
03:44:36,000 --> 03:44:39,639
exist only in the Internet, Like there's nothing remotely concrete

3534
03:44:39,879 --> 03:44:43,680
about their ship, you know. And that's one of the

3535
03:44:43,719 --> 03:44:48,000
means why they're so inflexible, because it's it's never it's

3536
03:44:48,040 --> 03:44:52,360
never been challenged by you know, the the nuances of

3537
03:44:53,760 --> 03:44:56,559
of of Warren peace questions. And when I say Warren

3538
03:44:56,559 --> 03:45:01,399
peace questions, I mean things that impact anybody of a

3539
03:45:01,479 --> 03:45:03,559
partisan mindset, even in day to day life. You know,

3540
03:45:03,680 --> 03:45:07,319
like there's a spectrum of war and peace of you know,

3541
03:45:07,399 --> 03:45:11,159
on the the most extreme ends are you know, hostas

3542
03:45:11,200 --> 03:45:14,399
and Animicus, and on the other end is you know,

3543
03:45:14,559 --> 03:45:20,319
a splendid piece where within the confldical space only friends

3544
03:45:20,440 --> 03:45:27,079
capital f exists. But you know there's a there's there's

3545
03:45:27,120 --> 03:45:32,440
an infinite gradations between one side of the spectrum and

3546
03:45:32,479 --> 03:45:36,600
the other. So you know, you're very much you're very

3547
03:45:36,680 --> 03:45:42,440
much at war and metaphysical and unfortunately sometimes concrete terms.

3548
03:45:43,639 --> 03:45:47,159
Although I certainly don't advocate anybody to undertake violence other

3549
03:45:47,239 --> 03:45:50,719
than and defense themselves, their property, to their loved ones.

3550
03:45:51,200 --> 03:45:58,000
But you know, people are people are closer to these

3551
03:45:58,079 --> 03:46:02,399
processes in a very same winary sense. Then they realize

3552
03:46:03,479 --> 03:46:06,000
if they're truly engaged and not just you know, somebody

3553
03:46:06,079 --> 03:46:11,040
playing a game, you know, from some anonymous and remote location.

3554
03:46:11,799 --> 03:46:13,760
But yeah, that's uh, that's very good man.

3555
03:46:14,200 --> 03:46:17,040
Speaker 1: Well, before I have you do your plugs and everything,

3556
03:46:18,239 --> 03:46:21,600
we have to thank the I don't believe this was

3557
03:46:21,719 --> 03:46:26,239
ever translated into English before Anselope Hill did it.

3558
03:46:26,600 --> 03:46:30,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, they were a great publishing house. I'm on

3559
03:46:30,399 --> 03:46:34,639
their mailing list and they they they release great stuff. Man,

3560
03:46:34,760 --> 03:46:36,239
I can't recommend them enough.

3561
03:46:37,440 --> 03:46:40,639
Speaker 1: All right, do your plugs, and once again thank you

3562
03:46:40,760 --> 03:46:43,239
for joining me for a thousand episodes.

3563
03:46:43,840 --> 03:46:47,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's great. Yeah, you can always find me

3564
03:46:47,920 --> 03:46:51,440
at Thomas seven seven seven dot com. That's the one

3565
03:46:51,520 --> 03:46:56,079
stop location for links to all my content. It's number

3566
03:46:56,200 --> 03:47:00,760
seven H seven seven seven dot com. Substack is going

3567
03:47:00,799 --> 03:47:04,360
to continue to be my primary home for podcast content

3568
03:47:04,479 --> 03:47:10,360
as well as longer form content. And I'm debating releasing

3569
03:47:10,479 --> 03:47:18,959
the third book in my science fiction series exclusively on

3570
03:47:19,159 --> 03:47:22,120
on substack now, like you know, the subscribers like Chapter

3571
03:47:22,159 --> 03:47:27,520
by Chap, I haven't decided yet, but because I won

3572
03:47:27,600 --> 03:47:30,799
my war with Stripe in their effort to d platform me,

3573
03:47:32,040 --> 03:47:34,799
for the time being, we're going to remain on Substack.

3574
03:47:35,120 --> 03:47:37,639
I'm probably also gonna set up a gum Road account too,

3575
03:47:38,920 --> 03:47:43,120
for among other things, like repository for video content which

3576
03:47:43,159 --> 03:47:48,000
I'm actively shooting. But that's that's new to me. So

3577
03:47:48,280 --> 03:47:50,959
thanks for bearing with me, I mean not I mean

3578
03:47:51,120 --> 03:47:56,319
everybody who subscribes. But you can always find me at

3579
03:47:56,360 --> 03:48:00,520
substack at real Thomas seven seven seven at subsec dot com.

3580
03:48:02,600 --> 03:48:08,239
I'm on Instagram as well. You can link through my website,

3581
03:48:10,760 --> 03:48:15,040
and I'm on exit uh real Capital r e A

3582
03:48:15,239 --> 03:48:19,120
L Underscore number seven hm as seven seven seven dot com.

3583
03:48:19,799 --> 03:48:23,159
That's where we're at right now. I'll be announcing some

3584
03:48:23,280 --> 03:48:25,639
of these changes I mean, I have been and will

3585
03:48:25,639 --> 03:48:27,920
continue to announce some of these changes on my sub stack.

3586
03:48:30,000 --> 03:48:32,200
Things are kind of normalizing and I've got my workflow

3587
03:48:32,600 --> 03:48:36,159
locked in now thanks to our dear friend Jay Burden

3588
03:48:36,239 --> 03:48:38,040
as well as some of the people you plugged me with.

3589
03:48:39,319 --> 03:48:43,120
So yeah, I'm having to report that, you know, I'll

3590
03:48:43,159 --> 03:48:46,719
finally be up on you know, fresh content every fourteen

3591
03:48:46,799 --> 03:48:50,000
days again, as was as was the case, uh for

3592
03:48:50,120 --> 03:48:51,719
most of the last year. That's all I got.

3593
03:48:52,399 --> 03:48:55,159
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, thank you, thank you so much for doing this, man.

3594
03:48:55,239 --> 03:48:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I appreciate it.

3595
03:48:56,159 --> 03:49:00,159
Speaker 1: And yeah, just little tease. Thomas and I before where

3596
03:49:00,159 --> 03:49:02,799
we started recording this started talking about the next series,

3597
03:49:02,879 --> 03:49:05,360
and I think that would be a it's gonna be

3598
03:49:05,360 --> 03:49:06,959
of great interest to a lot of people, a lot

3599
03:49:07,000 --> 03:49:09,760
of I think a lot of people have already commented that, yeah,

3600
03:49:09,799 --> 03:49:11,959
we'd like to see, uh like to see that that

3601
03:49:12,200 --> 03:49:14,520
subject covered, but let's not tell them what it is.

3602
03:49:14,639 --> 03:49:17,280
Speaker 2: And just no, I'm very excited, and yeah, I appreciate

3603
03:49:17,399 --> 03:49:21,920
the guy who suggested it very much. Yeah, yeah, I'm

3604
03:49:22,200 --> 03:49:22,959
pretty excited. Man.

3605
03:49:23,440 --> 03:49:24,239
Speaker 1: All right, thanks man.

3606
03:49:24,680 --> 03:49:25,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, likewise,