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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and sider Dick Gabriel with

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<v Speaker 1>you on a Friday, the eve of the Big Game.

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Louisville, we aren't that far removed from Uku. L

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<v Speaker 1>Football didn't go so well for the Big Blue Nation,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Wildcats should fare better tomorrow when they take

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<v Speaker 1>on the Basketball Cardinals because both teams are actually be

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<v Speaker 1>set with injuries. But I think more depth for the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats means Kentucky should win it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you just never know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Louisville threw a scare into Duke, and we

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<v Speaker 1>know how good Duke can be. So it's gonna be fun,

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be interesting. It is not quite the same rivalry

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of reasons. Number one, both teams are

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<v Speaker 1>on their way back. Let's put it to you that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky is ahead of schedule, I think, by knocking off

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of top ten teams, of course, and creating

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of buzz in the college basketball world, not

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<v Speaker 1>just within the Big Blue Nation. But they've got coaches

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<v Speaker 1>and analysts and experts and talking heads chattering all over

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<v Speaker 1>the country, especially after the comeback win over Duke and

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<v Speaker 1>the comeback win over Gonzaga. Louisville a little bit behind,

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<v Speaker 1>I think primarily because of injuries, but they got a

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<v Speaker 1>coach who is an absolute live wire, Pat Kelsey. Different

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<v Speaker 1>from Mark Pope, but similar in that he's younger, he's enthusiastic,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, he made national headlines with a comment

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<v Speaker 1>the other day when somebody basically asked him about his

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<v Speaker 1>concerns or his worries or whatever about his team or

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<v Speaker 1>his program, and he basically said, you know, life is good.

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<v Speaker 3>How challenging is it emotionally or mentally to give a

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<v Speaker 3>team ready when at.

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<v Speaker 4>Duke Point Sunday, this big marqueting event.

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<v Speaker 5>You got Kentucky on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 4>Another marquee kind of game and uteb pluff right here

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<v Speaker 4>in the peddle. How difficult is that.

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<v Speaker 2>This emotional stand?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, we get a bunch of free sneakers, I

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<v Speaker 6>wear sweatsuits the work like like you know, my kids

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<v Speaker 6>are healthy, my wife's hot, Like I got I got

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<v Speaker 6>pretty good life. We didn't get to play college basketball,

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<v Speaker 6>we get to play in the Young Center. We get

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<v Speaker 6>to get ready for Utah. My dad used to say

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<v Speaker 6>it all the time like I would. I would say him, Dad,

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<v Speaker 6>you gotta go to work today, said, so not I

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<v Speaker 6>get to go to work today, right heck heck yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. I mean, schedule's been a little bit difficult

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<v Speaker 6>and we had some adversity, but you know, this guy's

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<v Speaker 6>been awesome. Guy's been awesome, The process has been great.

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<v Speaker 6>Results will take care of themselves and just onto the

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<v Speaker 6>next one, most important game in the history of the programs,

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<v Speaker 6>the next one we play, and that's that one on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 6>about three hours ago. It was this one right here.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the deal?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that not great?

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know about you, I think he actually

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<v Speaker 1>believes that. That's not coach speak. I do believe just

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<v Speaker 1>based on everything I've read and I've seen interviews and

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<v Speaker 1>heard interviews with him. I just thought that was great.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently Mark Pope knows him, knows of him. It

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of us for Pat Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 7>Pat does an unbelievable job. Like he's a he's a

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<v Speaker 7>terrific coach. He is going to crush it there and

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<v Speaker 7>and I like him as a person, and he's he's

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<v Speaker 7>insanely intense and competitive, but he's doing things the right

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<v Speaker 7>way and for the right reasons, and he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 7>great success there. So They're a good team and they've

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<v Speaker 7>already proven they can be really really dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>They can be dangerous starting with Chucky. Hepburn their point guard.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all everything, really transferring in after three years at Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 1>started every game of his career, total more than eleven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred points, more than three hundred assists, more than one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred and sixty steals.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year help Wisconsin get to the Big Ten Conference

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<v Speaker 1>title games at NJ Tournament, All Big Ten Defensive Team,

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<v Speaker 1>All Big Ten All Tournament Team. As kid's a player,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's in Louisville and Kentucky is without as

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<v Speaker 1>you will know, it's top two point guards. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing Jackson Robinson will have to try to check Chucky

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<v Speaker 1>and he is the head of the snake, no question

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<v Speaker 1>about it. The former Nebraska Gatorade Player of the Year

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<v Speaker 1>and Polk talked in general about how good this Louisville

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<v Speaker 5>Terrific team.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh, they've had some huge wins there. They can be

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<v Speaker 7>super disruptive, they're really aggressive.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, they they're they're you know, they're really aggressive. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Chucky is is playing at an elite level.

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<v Speaker 7>He's a veteran veteran guy, and he causes so much

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<v Speaker 7>chaos on the defensive end, and and and also causes

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<v Speaker 5>Chaos on the offensive end.

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<v Speaker 7>And they got you know, he kind of feels like

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<v Speaker 7>they're you know, six six across the front line, guys

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<v Speaker 7>that can shoot it and drive it and make decisions

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<v Speaker 7>and play and have some real physicality of the game.

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<v Speaker 7>And and and then they've got some real length, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you think about playing No. At six eleven

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<v Speaker 7>at the three and the four and the five and

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<v Speaker 7>everything he can do. And so they're a terrific team

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<v Speaker 7>with a massive upside. They're really really dangerous. I think

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<v Speaker 7>that's how they feel, is super dangerous. On any given night,

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<v Speaker 7>when all the pieces come together, they can be a

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<v Speaker 7>really really dangerous team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And if you're not sure about that, ask Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the holiday. Over the Thanksgiving holiday, Louisville kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shocked the nation by beating Indiana, back then ranked fifteenth

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<v Speaker 1>in the country, and blew them out down in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bahamas eighty nine to sixty one. Then they beat West

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia in overtime, finally lost by five to Oklahoma in

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<v Speaker 1>the finals of that event. Now Tennessee blew them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee's really good. Ole Miss blew them out. Ole Miss

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty good too, And.

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<v Speaker 2>That happened in Louisville. And you know about Duke.

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<v Speaker 1>They had Duke down, kind of let him off the

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<v Speaker 1>hook in the Young center.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're coming off a close win over UTEB.

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<v Speaker 1>Texas l pass not a great team, but again, they've

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<v Speaker 1>had ups and downs like Kentucky, and they've got injuries

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<v Speaker 1>like Kentucky. And one of the kids who's injured is

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<v Speaker 1>a six to eleven center named Ali Khalifa, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know he's out.

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<v Speaker 2>For the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Transferred in played one year for Pope at Brigham Young,

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<v Speaker 1>and so did another kid named Noah Waterman. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is where things get really interesting. This is where we

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<v Speaker 1>are today in college athletics. You've got a coach and

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<v Speaker 1>a player crossing paths at their next respective stops because

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<v Speaker 1>the kid was able to go into the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 1>Coaches move all the time, and obviously Mark Pope came

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<v Speaker 1>to Kentucky from Brigham Young and the biggest reason was

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<v Speaker 1>not that he's a former UK player, but he had

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<v Speaker 1>success there and over the last couple of years, Noah Waterman,

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<v Speaker 1>a six ' eleven forward, had big seasons for Brigham Young.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a really important part of their success last

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<v Speaker 1>year in twenty four minutes per game, nine and a

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<v Speaker 1>because he and his teammates played so well, that kept

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope front and center. They did so well in

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<v Speaker 1>the Big twelve. And when the job opened up and

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch Barnard started looking at Pope's track record, he saw

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<v Speaker 1>the success at Brigham Young, of course, and Noah Waterman

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<v Speaker 1>was part of that. And now he's in the enemy camp.

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<v Speaker 1>But it didn't sound that way today when Pope talked

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<v Speaker 1>about him.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it's our job to really really just hate Louisville,

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<v Speaker 7>but that's hard to do, and certainly in terms of

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<v Speaker 7>those two guys, like I listen, no and I have

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<v Speaker 7>been through it, man, and I'm so proud of him.

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<v Speaker 5>The way that he's grown.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh, And he's two years with me, and then he's

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<v Speaker 7>continued to grow this year. It just as I love him,

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<v Speaker 7>and it hasn't been easy and and he just is

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<v Speaker 7>He's a special human being and he's grown into a terrific,

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<v Speaker 7>terrific person. And you know, the truth is, and I

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<v Speaker 7>actually had a conversation with my former players just a

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<v Speaker 7>couple of days ago that that, uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 7>get to be here right now because of no Waterman

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<v Speaker 7>and that's actually no, that's no overstatement, and and I

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<v Speaker 7>love him for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, but I find that refreshing

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<v Speaker 1>because when coaches move, obviously it's because of the job

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<v Speaker 1>done by them, by their assistance, by the people on

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<v Speaker 1>their staff, and by the players. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>don't big rudge players being allowed to move, although I

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<v Speaker 1>think it should be a one time only thing without

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<v Speaker 1>sitting out portal's out of control. But that's a topic

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<v Speaker 1>for another night. But the fact that Pope openly talks

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<v Speaker 1>about I mean, if you held coaches down, they would

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<v Speaker 1>tell you the same thing. Most of them would, decent

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<v Speaker 1>human beings would. But Pope's saying, look, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>this job without what those players did with me and

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<v Speaker 1>for me at bring them young.

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<v Speaker 2>And Waterman's one of them now.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugged before and after the game, but during the game

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<v Speaker 1>they'll try to beat each other's brains out, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's fun. We'll talk Kentucky volleyball next here.

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<v Speaker 2>On six thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>WLAP Welcome back to the Big Bloon Sider Coming up tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>While the basketball Wildcats are playing U of L, the

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<v Speaker 1>volleyball Wildcats will play Pittsburgh, just the top seed and

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<v Speaker 1>the entire tournament playing at home, but the winner gets

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the final four, and anything's possible. As

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<v Speaker 1>we all know, Wildcats look pretty good against Missouri yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Missou really put it to them in the third set

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<v Speaker 1>after Kentucky won the first two and after the match,

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<v Speaker 1>emmac Grome, Kentucky setter who had fifty assists, talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how they lost a little bit of focus there it's

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<v Speaker 1>set number three and had to reset for set number four.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I think we just realized that, like hard said,

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<v Speaker 8>we did have to step it up. We lost a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit of our focus at edge, I think in

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<v Speaker 8>that third set and their server, you know, those were

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<v Speaker 8>great service, but I think we could have adjusted a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit quicker. But yeah, we just came out and

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<v Speaker 8>forced a really strong kind of a mental change and

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<v Speaker 8>shift in what we were doing. So we'll just really

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<v Speaker 8>proud of how we responded and we were able to come

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<v Speaker 8>out fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, you cannot lose focus against Pittsburgh. You know how

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<v Speaker 1>good they are. They've lost one match to MU, a

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<v Speaker 1>team Kentucky beat, But this is a team that is

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<v Speaker 1>so driven. Panthers have twice each of the last two

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<v Speaker 1>years made it to the Final four and lost, never

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<v Speaker 1>got to the championship round, so they are really wanting

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<v Speaker 1>this obviously. So yeah, you got to keep your head up,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to stay in it. Brooklyn Delay talked to

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN after the match about responding in a third set

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<v Speaker 1>and then trying to move on. Missouri made it difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Just as Missouri did at the end of the regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky played at Massoo and had to rally to win

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<v Speaker 1>that one and in doing so clinched the outright SEC title.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, that happened the last time we played him,

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<v Speaker 9>I think just all around, we did really well at

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I don't think we really changed much. I

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<v Speaker 9>think it just started clicking more, it didn't really at

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<v Speaker 9>set just was not what we wanted obviously, and I

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<v Speaker 9>think we just really responded and played our own game.

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<v Speaker 8>What's it going to take to get another one headed

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<v Speaker 9>You know, we just got to clean up the little things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they're gonna have to be, because I said pitt

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<v Speaker 1>is big, strong, physical, They're tough. Kentucky is the champion

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<v Speaker 1>of the SEC, but that league is not quite where

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<v Speaker 1>not impossible for the Wildcats. They're playing their best right

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<v Speaker 1>now and they're about as healthy as they have been

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<v Speaker 1>all year long, with the exception of Asia thing Pen,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was kind of a bonus toward the middle

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<v Speaker 1>From a defensive spot basically to an offensive spot outside

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<v Speaker 1>hit her. She's only five foot ten, but she can play.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd be overmatched against this pit front line, but you

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats will be underdogs for once. Craig Skinner talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that. How pressure kind of changes throughout tournaments like this.

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<v Speaker 11>pressure shifts to you know, we had the pressure on

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<v Speaker 11>us all year after we got in a win streak

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<v Speaker 11>and we were expected to win the conference the last

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<v Speaker 11>few matches, and so we understand what that means. We

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<v Speaker 11>also know how difficult it is to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>a tough one on Saturday to go to the final four.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night on the show, I came on and only

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<v Speaker 1>it on the show. The announcers and again I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to go with names, but I was so disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>in the job they did because it was clearly from

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<v Speaker 1>the Missouri point of view, And as I said yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're working on the SEC network or the ACCN network, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're the person in that home market. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna you're gonna call sports, as I always say, through

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<v Speaker 1>the prism of the home team.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're not working on that school's TV or.

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<v Speaker 1>Radio network specifically, I think you have to call it

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<v Speaker 1>as much as you can right down the middle, because

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<v Speaker 1>there are as many viewers probably who are interested in

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea why. Maybe these women work Missouri

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<v Speaker 2>all year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they did, but maybe they did. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the reason, it was almost as though Kentucky wasn't even there.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't mention until the end of the third of

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth set that Kentucky was the defending SEC champion

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<v Speaker 1>that Brooklyn Delay was the player of the year in

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC. In fact, they did a little quick feature

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<v Speaker 1>on her with a full screen shot of her coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of the second set because Kentucky was on

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<v Speaker 1>the verge of a sweep and they had to get

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<v Speaker 1>it in, you know here they had the producer had

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<v Speaker 1>this prepared, so they finally got it in and then

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<v Speaker 1>Missouri really destroyed Kentucky in the third set, and oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, were they overjoyed the announcers with that. So

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought of my being too hard on these people.

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<v Speaker 1>And again I'm not gonna name names, but my Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>feeds show that you all agreed with me. Gerard said

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<v Speaker 1>the volleyball call was very one side of ESPN fire

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<v Speaker 1>the announcers. Jeff said, definitely agree on the one side

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<v Speaker 1>of TV call that was blatantly obvious. Kenny said, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the call on TV was horrible. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know their love of Missouri, but hopefully they can go

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<v Speaker 1>home with the team NOP. They're gonna be calling the

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<v Speaker 1>game tomorrow when Pittsburgh takes on Kentucky, and just look,

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<v Speaker 1>just brace yourselves if you watch it or record it

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<v Speaker 1>and watch it after basketball, which if I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to do, it's gonna be all Pittsburgh tomorrow. It is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a Pittsburgh Panthers Volleyball festival. It'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>sound almost like a documentary. And again not naming names.

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<v Speaker 1>Just tune in you'll see what I mean. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really amazed by this, you know, I just because it

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<v Speaker 1>is a national broadcast.

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<v Speaker 2>This was on ESPN two.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't on the ACC network, it wasn't on the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC network, it wasn't on any network other than the Deuce,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course Missouri is an SEC team. Pits in

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<v Speaker 1>the AC scene now in case you've forgotten, but it

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't matter. So again I wondered, was I a little

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<v Speaker 1>too sensitive to this? I don't think so. And my

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, coming up next, Billy Rutledge joined us.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot to talk about in college and pro

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<v Speaker 1>sports today. We haven't had a chance to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Billy all week as we were bumped Monday with a

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<v Speaker 1>with him, so we will do that next year on

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<v Speaker 1>a Big Blue Insider. Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider,

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<v Speaker 1>joining us down our celebrity hotline.

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<v Speaker 2>He's actually traveling.

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<v Speaker 4>But we didn't get a chance to check in with

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<v Speaker 4>Billy Rutledge first of the week as we always do,

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<v Speaker 4>because the state wide show was preempted.

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<v Speaker 1>So I need to pick your brain, young man a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. First of all, Billy worked. We all know

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<v Speaker 1>Western Kentucky alum, and you got a big one coming

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<v Speaker 1>up tomorrow as well. Western Kentucky plays Murray State. But

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<v Speaker 1>you were working in Louisville before you came down the

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on the big game tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's really exciting, Dick. It's the first matchup between

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<v Speaker 10>two coaches that I feel like have re energized their

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<v Speaker 10>programs in Pat Kelsey and Mark Pope. They're kind of

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<v Speaker 10>in like a compliment off right now, which I'm not

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<v Speaker 10>the biggest fan of. Hopefully there will be a little

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<v Speaker 10>hay in between them eventually, but as of now, I

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<v Speaker 10>think there's a lot of excitement for this game and

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of excitement for Mark Pope. You know, people

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<v Speaker 10>are starting to say media members if that if their

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<v Speaker 10>coach of the Year of ballot had to be casted today,

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<v Speaker 10>Mark Hope would be their coach of the year, I

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<v Speaker 10>think rightly.

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<v Speaker 12>So, I mean, you've got.

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<v Speaker 10>Two huge top ten wins versus Duke and Gonzaga, a

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<v Speaker 10>loss on the road at Clemson. But you know, with

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<v Speaker 10>the SEC schedule coming up, we may just have to

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<v Speaker 10>take a deep breath when Kentucky dropped a couple of

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<v Speaker 10>these games in conference, because the SEC is just so

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<v Speaker 10>damn good this year. But I'm excited for Kentucky to

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<v Speaker 12>Don't get me.

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<v Speaker 10>Wrong, I think the Cards will play at a little

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<v Speaker 10>closer than they did then with Kenny Payne. But this

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<v Speaker 10>is still Kentucky's rivalry until they say otherwise. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what really kind of turned it. I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this before. When Beatino got here, he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dismissed this rivalry at first as just something that was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oh, well, yeah, it's nice. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>Celtics and Knicks, though, But then when he lost out

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<v Speaker 1>on a recruit. He lost out on Dwayne Morton to

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<v Speaker 1>U of L, which committed a secondary violation. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Crumb bought his mom dinner or something, and Patino

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted Morton, and I think he thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get him. But that changed everything, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. I don't know that that happens with this staff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're built differently. But yeah, it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>too warm and fuzzy right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 12>Maybe a little bit.

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<v Speaker 10>And you're right about Patino he brought the juice to

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<v Speaker 10>that rivalry being the former Kentucky coach going over to Louisville.

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<v Speaker 10>And I tell you what, I don't know if Cal

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<v Speaker 10>Patino when he's on the other side of that court.

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<v Speaker 10>And you could tell, like you know, even in Rick

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<v Speaker 10>saw the loisvill players play really tight when it came

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<v Speaker 10>to the Kentucky Louisville game because I think Matina wanted

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<v Speaker 10>it so much, and so you know, it's just different

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<v Speaker 10>now and can't coach guys the same way. Rivalries are

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<v Speaker 10>different now. I'm hoping this rivalry sticks around, even though

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<v Speaker 10>the football one ukuf L might be going away in

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<v Speaker 10>the near future, but this is a basketball state. The

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<v Speaker 10>entire Commonwealth will come to a halt on Saturday to

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<v Speaker 10>watch this game. And that's probably my favorite part is

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<v Speaker 10>you know, you go into a local shop on the

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<v Speaker 10>day uku of l play and nobody's really paying attention

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<v Speaker 10>because this is what matters right now.

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<v Speaker 12>And I tell you what, Louisville I.

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<v Speaker 10>Mean, if they can just stay healthy, Dick, I think

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<v Speaker 10>they've got a shot to do some pretty good things

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<v Speaker 10>this year. They had a good lead on Duke for

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<v Speaker 10>most of the game, and you know, they've definitely got

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<v Speaker 10>some potential. But this one, at being at rop Arena,

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<v Speaker 10>I see the Cats doing some good things even if

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<v Speaker 10>Lamont Butler to play though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Louisville, I think when it gets healthy, who will

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<v Speaker 2>Team than a will tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it comes in it starts throwing in threes

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<v Speaker 1>like Colgate, you never know what might happen.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, they show a lot of threes, just like Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 10>so are I'm going to guess over sixty threes attempted

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<v Speaker 10>in the game. But you know, Colgate was a weird one.

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<v Speaker 10>That's how Mark Pope. That's the adjective Mark Pope used

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<v Speaker 10>to describe it, and that's the one I'll use too.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, you go to the you start up seventeen

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<v Speaker 10>and he said it on the broadcast as so they

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<v Speaker 10>need to come out in this second part and still

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<v Speaker 10>play with intensity, and to Jack's point, Colgate came up

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<v Speaker 10>and made it a game, and thank goodness, Kobe Braya

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<v Speaker 10>decided to start hit the threies again, Dick, because you know,

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<v Speaker 10>right now, what's the injuries to the point guard and

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<v Speaker 10>of having to do something a little bit different. But

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<v Speaker 10>that's part of overcoming the adversity and the non counfterence

425
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<v Speaker 10>schedule and starting to become more of a team as

426
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<v Speaker 10>we move.

427
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<v Speaker 12>On to the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we talked with Mark Pope earlier today regularly scheduled

429
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<v Speaker 1>news conference, and he talked about how they're still trying

430
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<v Speaker 1>and it will keep trying to make sure that these

431
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<v Speaker 1>kids know how they want them to play, you know,

432
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<v Speaker 1>with all the cutting and screening and all that which

433
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<v Speaker 1>they got away from at Clemson and got away from

434
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<v Speaker 1>in the first half at Gonzaga, and now to your point, Billy,

435
00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:23.440
<v Speaker 1>minus your top two point guards, you know, it's up

436
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<v Speaker 1>to a kid who doesn't really want to be the

437
00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:29.119
<v Speaker 1>point guard to get the team into offense. And I

438
00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:30.680
<v Speaker 1>think that's a heck of a challenge, you.

439
00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:32.599
<v Speaker 12>Know it is.

440
00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:35.039
<v Speaker 10>There's been a little bit of a log gym there

441
00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:37.440
<v Speaker 10>at the two and three, and that's why Kobe hasn't

442
00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:40.160
<v Speaker 10>been starting one of the best shooters, if not the

443
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<v Speaker 10>best shooter in college basketball. But you know, Jackson going

444
00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:45.559
<v Speaker 10>over to the one allowed Kobe to start and have

445
00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:48.079
<v Speaker 10>that good game and get back on track. But you know,

446
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<v Speaker 10>the criticism a lot of people have had is that

447
00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:53.400
<v Speaker 10>Kentucky didn't have that guy, that guy to go to

448
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<v Speaker 10>get a basket break somebody down off the dribble when

449
00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:57.799
<v Speaker 10>you really need it late in the shot clock or

450
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<v Speaker 10>late in the game. And Dick I'd argue, the system

451
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<v Speaker 10>is the guy on the team this year. I mean,

452
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<v Speaker 10>it may be a different guy every night, depending on

453
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<v Speaker 10>who's open or who's had the hot hand, you know,

454
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<v Speaker 10>case in point, I feel like Andrew Carr has had

455
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<v Speaker 10>a couple of pretty bad games this year, but he's

456
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<v Speaker 10>also had some really good ones.

457
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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, against some of the.

458
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<v Speaker 10>Best competition that they've played. So you know, if it's

459
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<v Speaker 10>the Clemson game and in Car hasn't given you anything, then.

460
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<v Speaker 12>He's not the guy.

461
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<v Speaker 10>But if it's the Duke game, or if it's the

462
00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:29.000
<v Speaker 10>Gonzaga game, maybe that's somebody you look to. But you know,

463
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<v Speaker 10>it's just so so different than what Kentucky fans has

464
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<v Speaker 10>seen in the previous fifteen years, and to Cali Perry's credit,

465
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<v Speaker 10>you know that that game is probably very different with

466
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<v Speaker 10>cal at the Helm because you probably have more athletes

467
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<v Speaker 10>on your roster and you probably are able to maybe

468
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<v Speaker 10>create some more distance than you were with Mark poper

469
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<v Speaker 10>Lion on three pointers and the and the system to

470
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<v Speaker 10>gain the advantage. So they have their their advantages and disadvantages.

471
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<v Speaker 10>I know you're watching Arkansas as close as I am, Dick,

472
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<v Speaker 10>and they've had some they've had some moments and bad moments.

473
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<v Speaker 10>That Michigan Michigan game was a strange one where they

474
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<v Speaker 10>were down by fifteen, then up eighteen, and then it

475
00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:08.680
<v Speaker 10>was a one point game in the final minute. So

476
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<v Speaker 10>it's you know, there's a lot up and downs going

477
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<v Speaker 10>over there in Fayetvill. I'm excited for that February first game,

478
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<v Speaker 10>but I guess we get we're getting too far ahead

479
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<v Speaker 10>of ourselves. We've still got a few challenging opponents before then.

480
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<v Speaker 2>Talking to Billy rud LEDs.

481
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<v Speaker 1>We talked to Billy every week, of course in the

482
00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:24.400
<v Speaker 1>state wide show, but we were bumped on Monday, so

483
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:27.160
<v Speaker 1>we're catching up with him today. He's in root from

484
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<v Speaker 1>one place to another. Uh, let me ask you a

485
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<v Speaker 1>little bit about college football before I ask you about

486
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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. But we didn't get a chance earlier to

487
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<v Speaker 1>talk about the bracket. Are you a Alabama should be

488
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<v Speaker 1>in an SMU should not kind of guy or what?

489
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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm finding the way that it worked out, it just

491
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<v Speaker 10>it just paints a clear picture on what college football

492
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<v Speaker 10>will be moving forward. One, I'm glad they didn't penalize

493
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<v Speaker 10>SMU for playing and losing in their conference championship game.

494
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<v Speaker 10>You know, I think that would open up a bag

495
00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:01.599
<v Speaker 10>of worms if you're that loss as a detriment to

496
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<v Speaker 10>the team. You know, they they're having a chance to

497
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:06.960
<v Speaker 10>win the conference. They shouldn't be penalized for that. But

498
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<v Speaker 10>it also really clarifies for me that there is no

499
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<v Speaker 10>point in scheduling good non conference opponents anymore. And that's

500
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<v Speaker 10>why I do think the Kentucky Louisville game is going

501
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<v Speaker 10>to end if the conference goes to a non game

502
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:22.920
<v Speaker 10>conference schedule. It's just not worth it. I mean, you

503
00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:26.480
<v Speaker 10>see the Alabama with their three losses, and you know,

504
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:29.240
<v Speaker 10>I mean you could say that Alabama should have beaten

505
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<v Speaker 10>a six and sixth Vandy team in a six and

506
00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:35.039
<v Speaker 10>sixth Oklahoma team to make that point across, but there's

507
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<v Speaker 10>really the committee showed me at least that they're really

508
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<v Speaker 10>just looking at the win loss calm and it doesn't

509
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<v Speaker 10>matter what you do out of conference, the neutral site

510
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<v Speaker 10>games to kick off the year that people like I

511
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<v Speaker 10>just don't I just don't think we're going to see

512
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<v Speaker 10>that much more because you know, as coaches have said

513
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<v Speaker 10>in press conference, all that matters is winning games by

514
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<v Speaker 10>as much as possible can get the best seeding possible

515
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<v Speaker 10>in the College Football playoffs.

516
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but general, what if I'm on the committee and

517
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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at Alabama, I'm thinking, yeah, they've got some

518
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.119
<v Speaker 1>nice wins, but look at the losses, and you talked

519
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<v Speaker 1>about it. They weren't non conference losses that killed Alabama.

520
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<v Speaker 1>They were losses to a six and six Oklahoma and

521
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>a six and six Vandy. And yes, I know those

522
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<v Speaker 1>teams play in the SEC. But everybody talks a been

523
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<v Speaker 1>a well what if Alabama made it, would they not

524
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>be favored to beat so and so? Well, yeah, but

525
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.559
<v Speaker 1>they were favored to beat Oklahoma and Vandy. You know,

526
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<v Speaker 1>so win those games and I don't care what your non

527
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<v Speaker 1>conference loss was.

528
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<v Speaker 10>You're in right right, But I would argue that if

529
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<v Speaker 10>Alabama played a very good team at the non conference

530
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.200
<v Speaker 10>and beat them, I don't think it would have mattered

531
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 10>because they would have had these losses to Tennessee in

532
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 10>Oklahoma and Vandy, And I think that's just the way

533
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 10>that it works out, that they're not valuing that enough

534
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.720
<v Speaker 10>for people to take that risk of playing, which is

535
00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:53.039
<v Speaker 10>a shame. I mean, you want to see the best

536
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:55.759
<v Speaker 10>play the best, you know, Dick, Don't you think we're

537
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<v Speaker 10>going to get like an SEC playoff or an SEC

538
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<v Speaker 10>Big ten playoff one of these days? Because it just

539
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.519
<v Speaker 10>feels like the ACC and Big twelve are a bit

540
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.599
<v Speaker 10>irrelevant at this point. And while they may get one

541
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 10>team in, you know, unless they do a little damage,

542
00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:10.880
<v Speaker 10>I feel like we're just going to get closer and

543
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 10>closer to that reality of super conferences.

544
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<v Speaker 1>Well then, yeah, you're right, because money talks, and that's

545
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>why I do think that the neutral syche games will

546
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.279
<v Speaker 1>keep happening as long as they can because the networks

547
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>will demand it and they'll pay big money for it.

548
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>But I think that it was tickled me. The critics

549
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:31.319
<v Speaker 1>jump right in right away with the fact that Arizona

550
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.440
<v Speaker 1>State got to buy You know that shouldn't happen.

551
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know, you knew that going in.

552
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, everybody accepted this bracket, this system. These conference

553
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>champs will get buys. You know now they're saying they

554
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 1>should recede them. Okay, we'll do it next year. But

555
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.160
<v Speaker 1>you don't throw out what you agreed to do just

556
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.160
<v Speaker 1>because you didn't like the way it looked at the

557
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>end of the day. But still getting back to your

558
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:01.559
<v Speaker 1>point about winning games and score points, I'll share this

559
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:05.160
<v Speaker 1>comment from James Franklin. This happened obviously before the playoff

560
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>bracket was set, but they beat the daylights.

561
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Out of Maryland.

562
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 1>Penn State did, and Mike Loxley took issue with it,

563
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>and at midfield rather so I say half court, but

564
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:20.839
<v Speaker 1>at midfield when they went in to shake hands. And

565
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of video shot after that forty

566
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>four to seven pounding and Penn State scored thirteen points

567
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter, and those coaches went at it.

568
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>But then Franklin later explained his stance on this, and

569
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 1>first of all, talked about my subs ought to get

570
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:41.279
<v Speaker 1>a chance to play hard, and then I need to

571
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>put up points because of the playoffs.

572
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:47.240
<v Speaker 3>It didn't look like it was the smoothest postgame handshake. Yeah,

573
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 3>I get it. Right at the end of the game

574
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:54.799
<v Speaker 3>we throw a touchdown, I get it. But a couple

575
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.200
<v Speaker 3>things I will say. My job is to put the

576
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 3>threes and fours in the game. Threeason four is get

577
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:04.000
<v Speaker 3>to go in the game. They get to play football.

578
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Those guys deserve to play football. Your ones are in

579
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:13.279
<v Speaker 3>the game. You were you were trying to score. We're

580
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:17.240
<v Speaker 3>trying to score. On top of that, you're you're playing

581
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 3>cover zero. If you don't want to play Cover two,

582
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:24.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm good with it. And on top of that, there's

583
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 3>also a change in college football. We are trying to

584
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 3>play as long as we can make the playoffs and

585
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:38.480
<v Speaker 3>be seated as high as possible and scoring as many

586
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:40.880
<v Speaker 3>points and a point differential matters.

587
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 4>All that matters.

588
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 3>And if you don't get that, it's really not my problem.

589
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:50.279
<v Speaker 3>So w one to zero, I'm good with it.

590
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.440
<v Speaker 4>Anybody that's not, that's that's their problem.

591
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a huge Franklin fan.

592
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I kind of am Billy, But then I'll do something

593
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>or say something that that bugs me. But I have

594
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.519
<v Speaker 1>a hard time I'm arguing with those two points he made,

595
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:03.119
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm.

596
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<v Speaker 10>Saying, Yeah, I want to disagree with the first one

597
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:09.599
<v Speaker 10>because I feel like there's a respect factor there.

598
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:10.359
<v Speaker 12>But he's right.

599
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 10>I mean, you put the threes and fours in. They

600
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 10>should have the opportunity to play ball hard and to

601
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.279
<v Speaker 10>be able to score. I guess I don't feel the

602
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 10>same if it's like youth football, stick or it's maybe

603
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 10>even high school. But the way that college football set up,

604
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:27.599
<v Speaker 10>you're striving to score as many points as possible. So

605
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.680
<v Speaker 10>he makes sense when he's talking about those guys doing that.

606
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 10>You know, it's it is different, though, you know what

607
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.440
<v Speaker 10>I mean, it's very it's very strange to hear that

608
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:42.359
<v Speaker 10>these coaches that are taking into effect how many point

609
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:43.960
<v Speaker 10>totals there's going to be, you know what. It feels

610
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 10>a little bit like college basketball, doesn't it.

611
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it does, and it shouldn't. But I don't

612
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>know that it helped them. They've got a decent draw.

613
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I can understand really good draw. Yeah, I

614
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>can understand Locksley being angry. Bill Belichick, the new head

615
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>coach in North Carolina, and of course, a guy from

616
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:06.279
<v Speaker 1>a TV station in Raleigh asked about and we all

617
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>were thinking it. What about if he gets an NFL offer?

618
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Pat Welter wr L, But what do you say to

619
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:15.079
<v Speaker 3>people that fear that if you do succeed here, that

620
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 3>you might leave for the NFL again in a year

621
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:17.720
<v Speaker 3>or two.

622
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I didn't come here to leave.

623
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:29.559
<v Speaker 2>So now he says, you know, he didn't come here

624
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to leave.

625
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>That to me is a little bit of a non

626
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>denial denial. But what did you make of that, you're

627
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:35.519
<v Speaker 1>an NFL fan?

628
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.680
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I haven't seen the news about the amendum in

629
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.319
<v Speaker 10>his contract. So can he leave the job without a

630
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 10>buyout if he gets an NFL offer?

631
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Is that I haven't seen him myself. He's just saying

632
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:48.279
<v Speaker 1>he's in it for the long haul.

633
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:52.720
<v Speaker 10>Well, you know, I guess, I mean, I guess it's

634
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.200
<v Speaker 10>part of him reinventing his image. I think many kind

635
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<v Speaker 10>of look at the relationship he had with Tom Brady

636
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<v Speaker 10>that he was more of a benefit than Tom Brady was,

637
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<v Speaker 10>and maybe he wants to prove these people wrong. I

638
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<v Speaker 10>know there's a little nostalgia factor there with his dad

639
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.240
<v Speaker 10>coaching at UNC and him growing up kind of around

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<v Speaker 10>the program. I'm just not sure the most unpersonable guy

641
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<v Speaker 10>in the NFL is going to be able to, you know,

642
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<v Speaker 10>get deal with young kids every day. Yeah, maybe we

643
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<v Speaker 10>should give him more credit for recruiting the youth with

644
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<v Speaker 10>his new twenty four year old girlfriend. But at the

645
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<v Speaker 10>same time, I mean neither. Did you see what the

646
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<v Speaker 10>Flora linebacker was asking to come back to Florida? He said, like,

647
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<v Speaker 10>you know, I want eighty five thousand a week, and

648
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:37.920
<v Speaker 10>you know, I want to play on every third down,

649
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<v Speaker 10>and you know, it was it was It's just so

650
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<v Speaker 10>much entitlement. And you know, I'm all for player empowerment.

651
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<v Speaker 10>We've talked about the transfer portal and and guys being

652
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<v Speaker 10>able to move just like coaches can, but that it

653
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<v Speaker 10>just seems like this is not what NIL is designed for.

654
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<v Speaker 10>I was looking for the bad Boy Mower's commercials with

655
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<v Speaker 10>the guys that have a name that you know that

656
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<v Speaker 10>he could play off a bad boy, not the guarantees

657
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<v Speaker 10>of seven million dollars so I can go to BYU

658
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<v Speaker 10>to play one year of college basketball and that will

659
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<v Speaker 10>correct itself eventually, and you know, the revenue sharing will

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<v Speaker 10>do I think a big part of that and spreading

661
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<v Speaker 10>the pie around. But you know, eventually, we may get

662
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<v Speaker 10>these guys as employees in the university so that you

663
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<v Speaker 10>can have salary caps, and you can ad mitigate that entirely.

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<v Speaker 10>But you know, I just don't see Bill dealing with

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<v Speaker 10>these college kids the same way he could just brush

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<v Speaker 10>off a professional player professional player. I think, yeah, I

667
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<v Speaker 10>think you could fire them. I think you can understand

668
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<v Speaker 10>that this is a job. You have to go make

669
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<v Speaker 10>that money, and they get that. The college kids still

670
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<v Speaker 10>in this transition period, I feel like, don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 10>know if they would take them very kindly to maybe

672
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<v Speaker 10>some of Bill's antics, but maybe he herears me all wrong.

673
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<v Speaker 10>And maybe Michael Lombardi as the GM is exactly what

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<v Speaker 10>North Carolina needs. But I think if you told Bill

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<v Speaker 10>Belichick that, you know, a year ago, he'd be accepting

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<v Speaker 10>the fourth best team in the ACC. I just don't

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<v Speaker 10>know if that would be the way that he wanted

678
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<v Speaker 10>him to play out, but it may be what he

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<v Speaker 10>wants to do now.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see Bill Belichick sitting in a living room

681
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<v Speaker 1>begging an eighteen year old to sign with his team.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what recruiting is. I just don't see it.

683
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<v Speaker 2>But he may prove us all wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Belly rud Ledge is of course our network studio producer,

685
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<v Speaker 1>and you hear him all with us on the State

686
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<v Speaker 1>Wide Show. You hear him as well on the ksrpre

687
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<v Speaker 1>Show every morning at nine a m. On this very

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<v Speaker 1>radio station. Thank you, sir, we'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 10>Thanks Jick enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in just a minute here on six thirty WLAP

691
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. Coming up in hour number two, Walt wells

692
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<v Speaker 1>Eku football coach. I got to tell you ek you

693
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:41.519
<v Speaker 1>got jobbed in the playoffs. There were some really bad

694
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 1>calls in their game. And I'm not just being biased.

695
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>If you saw the game, you know exactly what I'm

696
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about, in particular a scoop and score that they

697
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.159
<v Speaker 1>took off the board. I want to hear why they

698
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.119
<v Speaker 1>did that, if Walt got any kind of explanation, but

699
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>it ended their season prematurely at Villanova on the road

700
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. They still haven't won a playoff game in forever,

701
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>but should have won. It was the same day as

702
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<v Speaker 1>the Louisville game, So Walt's coming up in a few minutes. Also,

703
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<v Speaker 1>our West n BUA chief Gary Moore, we were bumped

704
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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, so we'll talk to him tonight get his

705
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<v Speaker 1>thoughts going into the weekend. But I wanted to share

706
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<v Speaker 1>with you some interesting comments from Steve Kerk speaking of officiating.

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<v Speaker 1>He of course is the head coach of the Golden

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<v Speaker 1>State Warriors. They are out of the Whatever it is,

709
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<v Speaker 1>the mid the early season tournament is called Whatever the

710
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Whatever Cup, and it's been a great success, at least

711
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>it was last year and it has been so far

712
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 1>this year. Teams are playing their butts off and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really popular. They were eliminated by the Rockets and it

714
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<v Speaker 1>came down to a loose ball foul.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of like one of those scrums.

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<v Speaker 1>People are going for a loose ball on the floor,

717
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<v Speaker 1>Guys are diving trying to tie things up and just

718
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<v Speaker 1>go for the held ball loose ball, and an NBA official,

719
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 1>as Kerr points out eighty feet from the other basket,

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<v Speaker 1>calls a foul and that's how the Rockets, they hit

721
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<v Speaker 1>free throws, end up winning it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you usually don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear coaches talk like he does, or did hear, but

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Kerr made sure everybody know how unhappy he was.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm going to call it a loose ball foul on

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<v Speaker 13>a jump ball situation with guys diving on the floor.

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<v Speaker 5>With a game on the line. This is a.

728
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<v Speaker 13>Billion dollar industry, get people's jobs on the line. I

729
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 13>am stunned. I am stunned. I give the Rockets credit.

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<v Speaker 13>They battle back, they play great defense all night. But

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<v Speaker 13>I feel for our guys. Our guys battled back, played

732
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<v Speaker 13>their asses off and deserve to win that game or

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<v Speaker 13>at least have a chance for one stop at the

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<v Speaker 13>end to finish the game. And that was taken from

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<v Speaker 13>us by a call that I don't think an elementary

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<v Speaker 13>referee would have made, because that guy would have had

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<v Speaker 13>feel and said, you know what, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 13>decide a game on a loose ball eighty feet.

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<v Speaker 2>From the basket.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, that's Steve Kerr of the Warriors. And you

741
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>rarely hear any coaches, college or pro talk let this

742
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<v Speaker 1>because they could get fined. And I guarantee you he'll

743
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:21.400
<v Speaker 1>be fined, and he doesn't care.

744
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.039
<v Speaker 2>The team may pay it for him, who knows.

745
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:28.679
<v Speaker 1>But if you see the video and google it, you'll

746
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 1>find it very quickly. You can see what he's talking about.

747
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<v Speaker 1>So I don't blame him for being upset. And I

748
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>don't have a dog in the fight. I just like

749
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<v Speaker 1>hearing the comments from Kerr, very pointed, very specific, and

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<v Speaker 1>again if you look at the video, he's got a point.

751
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<v Speaker 1>And he not only said this, but he doubled down

752
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 1>on it as he concluded a very quick news conference,

753
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>he said it essentially one more time on his way

754
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<v Speaker 1>out the door.

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00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go to Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 13>We wanted to win this Cup, and you know we

757
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.440
<v Speaker 13>aren't going because of a loose ball foul eighty feet

758
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<v Speaker 13>from the basket with the game on the line. I've

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<v Speaker 13>never seen anything like it in my life, and that

760
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<v Speaker 13>was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool if you ask me. And we'll keep

763
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<v Speaker 1>an eye on this story and see how much he's fine.

764
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Is not a question will he be fined, although I

765
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>will say this, if he's not, that's the.

766
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.719
<v Speaker 2>League admitting that he was right.

767
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<v Speaker 1>So I don't see how they can't find him because

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't, they're not supporting the official who in

769
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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, and you know, I'm sympathetic to officials, but

770
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<v Speaker 1>that guy was wrong. Show some discretion whenever you can,

771
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>as a referee, as an umpire, as.

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<v Speaker 2>A whatever you can do at that time. Steve Kerr.

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<v Speaker 2>Let him hear about it. I remember two is next

774
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<v Speaker 2>year on six point thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Go Elapa, welcome back to the big blon sider, joining

776
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<v Speaker 1>us now in our celebrity hotline as a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Put together a pretty good season this year.

778
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Eastern Kentucky head coach Walt Wells playoffs and I came

779
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>up a little bit short coach, but I thought a

780
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<v Speaker 1>big step for Colonel football. And now this week week

781
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<v Speaker 1>has been a signing week, recruiting week, portal week.

782
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>It never slows down.

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<v Speaker 12>Does it never stops. It's you know, with the movement

784
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<v Speaker 12>of the signing date to the first Wednesday in December

785
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:14.440
<v Speaker 12>and the playoffs being the starting the last week in November,

786
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.280
<v Speaker 12>it's just been, uh, it's been one thing after another,

787
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.440
<v Speaker 12>but that's that's what they pass for. And it's been

788
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:21.079
<v Speaker 12>fun so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Stoop's your your buddy and at one point your boss.

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<v Speaker 1>He's talked about how college football needs to to kind

791
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<v Speaker 1>of rejigger the calendar.

792
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<v Speaker 2>I would think that you'd be in favor of that.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh. I mean, listen, I'm all for the transfer portal,

794
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 12>and you know, I get everything the ramifications of it,

795
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:42.800
<v Speaker 12>but to have it open all the way through December.

796
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.920
<v Speaker 12>The twenty eighth makes absolutely you know, let the people

797
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.639
<v Speaker 12>that make those rules come be a college football coach

798
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:52.599
<v Speaker 12>because and not everybody makes, you know, the nine million

799
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.000
<v Speaker 12>dollars a year or the two million dollars to be

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00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:57.760
<v Speaker 12>a coordinator and stuff like that. I mean, could you

801
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.159
<v Speaker 12>imagine getting a phone call on Christmas Eve that you're

802
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 12>best linebackers going into the portal. I mean, that's a

803
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:09.239
<v Speaker 12>great phone call, and that's what happens. And you know,

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<v Speaker 12>I think we got to I get money is important,

805
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 12>but we got to have a reality of what's going

806
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<v Speaker 12>on a little bit and have some common sense in

807
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<v Speaker 12>what we're doing. Like I said, I don't want to

808
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<v Speaker 12>take anything away from our kids, our players, the young

809
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<v Speaker 12>men that are involved, but you also got to consider

810
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<v Speaker 12>the other side to it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these changes, as you will know, are done

812
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<v Speaker 1>by committees. And I always wonder, to your point, who

813
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<v Speaker 1>are the people on these committees. Have they ever had

814
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to coach a sport, manage organize that kind of thing.

815
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they did back in the day, but it just

816
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't seem to follow much logic these days.

817
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<v Speaker 12>No, And I think what's happened is everybody scared of

818
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:56.760
<v Speaker 12>the of the lawsuit or the pending lawsuits or all

819
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 12>these things. And I understand that, and it's just like

820
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 12>you know, a lot of different things as we go

821
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:07.199
<v Speaker 12>into sports. The more people get involved and understand it,

822
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.119
<v Speaker 12>the more you know, they try to make things perfect,

823
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:12.440
<v Speaker 12>and things aren't going to be perfect in life. That's

824
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.840
<v Speaker 12>just not how it is. And whether it's football or

825
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 12>whether it's anything in life, it's I mean, it's not

826
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:21.280
<v Speaker 12>ever just going to be totally fair or perfect, and

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00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 12>they're trying to find that. And I don't think they've

828
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<v Speaker 12>thought about the reality of seventeen to twenty two year

829
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 12>old's development. Yeah, and I think that's the biggest thing

830
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:36.719
<v Speaker 12>that they're forgetting about. Sure, they're getting money, and I

831
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.079
<v Speaker 12>think that's great. I'm not against that if they can

832
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:41.599
<v Speaker 12>make it, make it, if that's what they want to do,

833
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 12>But there's a lot of development that's being missed and

834
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.440
<v Speaker 12>really taking away. You know, I sit here at Eastern

835
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.440
<v Speaker 12>Kentucky and think about coach Kidd and all the impact

836
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<v Speaker 12>he had on all the players that he coached, right,

837
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<v Speaker 12>And people say, well, the money would impact them greater, Well, yeah, momentarily,

838
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 12>but whether they going to do. When these kids are

839
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<v Speaker 12>twenty five years old, then they're not making you know,

840
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:08.440
<v Speaker 12>not here at Eastern Kentucky, but at other schools making one, two, three,

841
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:11.519
<v Speaker 12>four hundred thousand dollars a year. They don't make the NFL.

842
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<v Speaker 12>Then they got to go to work, and some companies

843
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<v Speaker 12>are gonna be like, yeah, i'll pay you fifty thousand dollars.

844
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<v Speaker 12>I'll pay you seventy thousand dollars, which is not a

845
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 12>bad salary, but you're not you know, they're not gonna

846
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:23.159
<v Speaker 12>do it. How many these guys are gonna go be

847
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 12>coaches after that? You make fifty thousand dollars out a

848
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.679
<v Speaker 12>high school, yeah, not many, you know. And and then

849
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:33.760
<v Speaker 12>learn the value of health insurance and the value of

850
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:37.239
<v Speaker 12>retirement plans, and you know, they don't they don't get

851
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.719
<v Speaker 12>any of that. They just get the quick satisfaction to

852
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:43.679
<v Speaker 12>play football and then move on. And I understand, you know,

853
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:47.159
<v Speaker 12>I understand both sides of it. But somewhere in the middle,

854
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:49.679
<v Speaker 12>somebody with some common sense has got to have have

855
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:54.519
<v Speaker 12>the kahonas to go make some rules, and that makes sense,

856
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.960
<v Speaker 12>Like I think Nick Saban should be the Commissioner of Football.

857
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:58.920
<v Speaker 2>It's all right that will work.

858
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.199
<v Speaker 12>And because I think he has a genuine interest of

859
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:07.119
<v Speaker 12>all sides. Yeah, and now he he may not want

860
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 12>to do that. And you know, I don't you got

861
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 12>a good gig right now. He don't care, he don't

862
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:17.400
<v Speaker 12>care what I think. I promise you that. But but it's, uh,

863
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:21.360
<v Speaker 12>you know, somebody liked that that cares about the players

864
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 12>but also cares about the coaches and cares about the

865
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:27.119
<v Speaker 12>sport before it gets too far out of hand. In

866
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:28.239
<v Speaker 12>my opinion, you and I.

867
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Have talked before about the portal and the FCS. So

868
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.800
<v Speaker 2>one double a level, if you will.

869
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.320
<v Speaker 4>And I think people probably look at it like, well,

870
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 4>if e Ku has a good player, uh, the bigger

871
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:40.800
<v Speaker 4>schools are going.

872
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:43.760
<v Speaker 2>To poach him and leave him. But that door does

873
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:44.679
<v Speaker 2>swing both ways.

874
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:48.360
<v Speaker 4>You've got playing time available at that level, and that's

875
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.199
<v Speaker 4>a that's got to be a big selling point.

876
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 12>Well, I mean, I think it's you know, people look

877
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.400
<v Speaker 12>at our track record since you know, just say, since

878
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.800
<v Speaker 12>I've been here, Okay, we've we've had on two three

879
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:06.119
<v Speaker 12>four guys make NFL rosters. Okay, the two guys make

880
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.519
<v Speaker 12>either CFL or us us L, I think is what

881
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:15.079
<v Speaker 12>they call now USFL. That was rosters. If you play,

882
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 12>they'll find you. And we got to this year playing

883
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:23.519
<v Speaker 12>in the Huli Boat, which you know, I'll say this

884
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 12>out of all due respect to the Hula boat. When

885
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:28.599
<v Speaker 12>one of them got in Vede I wanted to get

886
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:30.599
<v Speaker 12>invited to this one or that one. And then he

887
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:32.559
<v Speaker 12>started seeing all the guys that were getting invited to

888
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:34.880
<v Speaker 12>the Hulabo. He's like, holy calcos. I'm like, hey, you

889
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:38.719
<v Speaker 12>better strap it on. There's a lot. I mean, that's

890
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:41.559
<v Speaker 12>a really good bat. I mean, yeah, sure, it may

891
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.280
<v Speaker 12>be the third ball, but there's gonna be every scout,

892
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:48.960
<v Speaker 12>every gym or assistant GM or every team's gonna be there.

893
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 12>We've had every team come to our practices for the

894
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 12>last three years at least bring somebody from their organization

895
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:02.239
<v Speaker 12>two different times. Yeah, so you can get seen if

896
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:04.559
<v Speaker 12>you want to play here, you can go to the

897
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:06.639
<v Speaker 12>next level. If you want to play here, and you're

898
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.800
<v Speaker 12>gonna play, and you're gonna be able to beat the guy.

899
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:14.159
<v Speaker 12>And if they hear about you, which they will because

900
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.920
<v Speaker 12>Eastern Kentucky's known, they'll hear about you. Then they they're

901
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 12>gonna come see you and then they'll make the determination.

902
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.519
<v Speaker 12>It's like our safety Mike Smith. A lot of people

903
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 12>looked at him. I was like, you know, or watched

904
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.239
<v Speaker 12>his early film and he did he had some development

905
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 12>to do. Then they walked in and saw his body

906
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 12>and like, holy cow. Then they saw the development, you know,

907
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 12>like and it's you know, I like to credit our

908
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:40.199
<v Speaker 12>defensive coaches for doing that and developing it, and our

909
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 12>strength and conditioning coaches. But it's also the fact that

910
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.639
<v Speaker 12>he got out there and made mistakes. They didn't watch

911
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:48.360
<v Speaker 12>that tape, and he got better and better and better,

912
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 12>and he got to play because he increased his value.

913
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 12>And that's what it's all about. And but some of

914
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:58.760
<v Speaker 12>these kids, But the good thing to this, Dick is

915
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.760
<v Speaker 12>some of the these guys you find out, are they

916
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:05.400
<v Speaker 12>really in love with football or do they just want

917
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 12>a little money?

918
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

919
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, you know, because if they're going somewhere and they're like, yeah,

920
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:12.440
<v Speaker 12>I know, you say, hey, you're probably gonna be a

921
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:14.599
<v Speaker 12>backup there. Yeah I know. But I'm gonna make seventy

922
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:17.679
<v Speaker 12>five thousand dollars this year. Yeah, okay, go do it.

923
00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 2>And then to be fair, some families need that money.

924
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.920
<v Speaker 12>We know this, that's right, that's right. So that's what

925
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 12>it's his life. I can't control.

926
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:28.519
<v Speaker 2>That's right, That's right.

927
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>But to your point, you know about being found at EKU,

928
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:34.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know I've covered that program for a long time.

929
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, your academic center is named after Chad Bratski,

930
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, went on to a great career in the

931
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:42.280
<v Speaker 1>NFL and made a little made a little bit of

932
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:44.800
<v Speaker 1>coin and plowed some of it back into his alma maters.

933
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.400
<v Speaker 2>So but yeah, get out.

934
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 12>I mean, at one point when I was here working

935
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 12>for coach kids John Jackson, oh yeah, at Chad Bratski

936
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:58.400
<v Speaker 12>or the two highs paid offense and defensive linement in

937
00:48:58.440 --> 00:48:58.960
<v Speaker 12>the NFL.

938
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:00.599
<v Speaker 2>That's right, how about that?

939
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:07.360
<v Speaker 12>I mean it can be done. Yeah, yeah, it's just

940
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:12.320
<v Speaker 12>it's it's are you good enough and are you getting

941
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:15.639
<v Speaker 12>the opportunity to play? And both of them came here

942
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:20.679
<v Speaker 12>weighing like I think John was the offensive lineman way

943
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.880
<v Speaker 12>two forty and I think when Chad came in here

944
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:25.079
<v Speaker 12>he was like one ninety five.

945
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, And John was a little bit of a surprise.

946
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:33.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was a nice player in college, had

947
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:35.559
<v Speaker 1>the size by the time he left. But I don't

948
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>know anybody who really projected him as being a longtime

949
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:39.840
<v Speaker 1>NFL player.

950
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:42.440
<v Speaker 2>But guys develop at their own rate, don't they.

951
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:45.960
<v Speaker 12>Well, he got to play, yeah, and that's the biggest

952
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:48.000
<v Speaker 12>thing that happened to him. So when he went to camp,

953
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.159
<v Speaker 12>he was a twelve round pick best I can remember,

954
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.639
<v Speaker 12>and that's back when they had I think fifteen rounds

955
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:56.320
<v Speaker 12>And he was a twelve round pick. And he went

956
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 12>to the Steelers and he was so athletic and he's

957
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:03.079
<v Speaker 12>so big that, I mean protect a quarterback. He ended

958
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:04.800
<v Speaker 12>up playing left tackle in the league for like ten

959
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:05.360
<v Speaker 12>twelve years.

960
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:05.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

961
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.320
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, And then Chad came and I think he was

962
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:11.480
<v Speaker 12>a free agent with the I don't know. He may

963
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:13.239
<v Speaker 12>have been a third round pick. I can't remember. I'm

964
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:17.559
<v Speaker 12>getting confused there a little bit. But Chad, Chad was

965
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 12>such a hard worker and just but continued to play.

966
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:25.639
<v Speaker 12>And they can't ignore you if you're making play. They

967
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:28.440
<v Speaker 12>got to come and see what you're doing. As soon

968
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 12>as one of them doesn't come see you, and he

969
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 12>goes to another place and he shines, that guy's got

970
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:34.760
<v Speaker 12>a chance to get fired.

971
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah. Rescu led the league in sacks

972
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:38.000
<v Speaker 2>won year.

973
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 12>I think you know, and I think you're right. I

974
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:41.000
<v Speaker 12>think you're right.

975
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.519
<v Speaker 2>You just can't fire no.

976
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.760
<v Speaker 12>And John's on our Super Bowl wall because he played

977
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.639
<v Speaker 12>the Super Bowl, that's right, but he played it more.

978
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.079
<v Speaker 1>With head coach wald Wells on the other side of

979
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.239
<v Speaker 1>the break here on the Big Boon Sider six thirty

980
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:56.119
<v Speaker 1>w LP, Welcome back to the Big Boon Sider, Dick

981
00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Krille with you were talking with EKU head football coach

982
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:02.280
<v Speaker 1>wald well Got to look back at this past season. Man,

983
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:04.199
<v Speaker 1>what a run you guys had. At the end, you

984
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.599
<v Speaker 1>pick up five straight wins, including a big overtime win

985
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:11.000
<v Speaker 1>over Austin p You got to go to Villanova and

986
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:13.119
<v Speaker 1>you and I talked off air about that game. I

987
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>know you can't talk about officials, but uh, you know,

988
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:19.159
<v Speaker 1>you lose it twenty two seventeen.

989
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:20.920
<v Speaker 2>You'll scratch your head for the rest of your life

990
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:21.519
<v Speaker 2>about that one.

991
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:26.760
<v Speaker 12>I know, oh that that that game. Will talking about

992
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:28.719
<v Speaker 12>that one, hopefully in a long long time on my

993
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.360
<v Speaker 12>deathbad that that one me and my son will talk about.

994
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 12>I promise you that because it's you know, it was

995
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:36.599
<v Speaker 12>just I mean, we've got to we've got to make

996
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 12>the play to win the game, and we had an

997
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 12>opportunity at the end of the game. And that's nothing

998
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 12>against the young man that had the opportunity to make

999
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:46.360
<v Speaker 12>play just didn't happen. But uh, you know, to have

1000
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:49.280
<v Speaker 12>you know, fourteen points taken off the board, it's just, uh,

1001
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.199
<v Speaker 12>you know, it's unheard of in a playoff game.

1002
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1003
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, you and I se books about the season, and

1004
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:58.119
<v Speaker 1>we talked right before and right after your first couple

1005
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:00.960
<v Speaker 1>of games where things didn't go in entirely well against

1006
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>two D one team Mississippi State and Western Kentucky, but

1007
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.760
<v Speaker 1>we talked about basically them as an investment for the future.

1008
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Did you see it play out that way?

1009
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Walk, Because yeah, you took your lumps back then against

1010
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, bigger teams, but it seemed like it paid off.

1011
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:19.840
<v Speaker 1>You won three straight after those first two losses, and

1012
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:20.599
<v Speaker 1>you wind.

1013
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Up in the playoffs.

1014
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.639
<v Speaker 12>Well, I think what happened is, you know, you play

1015
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:28.000
<v Speaker 12>Mississippi State in Western the first two games, and you

1016
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.719
<v Speaker 12>know you're zero and two, and everybody's like, who are

1017
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 12>we really? And I'm like, I just relaxed. Let's let's

1018
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:35.480
<v Speaker 12>get into our SDS schedule and play who we got

1019
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:38.360
<v Speaker 12>to play and see where're at. Yes, we go to

1020
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.400
<v Speaker 12>win those games and we go to play well in

1021
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.920
<v Speaker 12>those games and that didn't happen. It either plays really

1022
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:49.800
<v Speaker 12>offensively or defensively, and so we had to check and

1023
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.119
<v Speaker 12>just be real with ourselves. And you look at Western,

1024
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.920
<v Speaker 12>they played in their conference final. Misssippi State plays in

1025
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.320
<v Speaker 12>the SEC. And so then we went on a three

1026
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.920
<v Speaker 12>game run, and then we lost our first two or

1027
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:03.159
<v Speaker 12>or not our first two, but then we lost two

1028
00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:06.400
<v Speaker 12>conference games on the road in a row, and uh,

1029
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.239
<v Speaker 12>you know, a lot of people were wondering where we

1030
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:12.079
<v Speaker 12>were at. And I felt like if we just tightened

1031
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 12>the screws a little bit and found out what we

1032
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.119
<v Speaker 12>found out what our players do, now, let's go do

1033
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:20.880
<v Speaker 12>what they do well. And if that means we had

1034
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:24.960
<v Speaker 12>to change our philosophies a little bit offensively and defensively,

1035
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:27.519
<v Speaker 12>then let's do that. And we did. And you know,

1036
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.360
<v Speaker 12>I sat down and with our coordinators and we challenged

1037
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:32.920
<v Speaker 12>each other and and uh, you know, we came out

1038
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:35.079
<v Speaker 12>with a plan and we went on a five game

1039
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:37.960
<v Speaker 12>win streak, and our players adapted to it. They bought

1040
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:42.000
<v Speaker 12>into it. One and uh, you know, we we went

1041
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:46.320
<v Speaker 12>back to to what you know, offensively, roy kid football.

1042
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:49.559
<v Speaker 12>We ran the ball and we were you know, Josh

1043
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 12>Carter carried our football team. And Matt Morrisey did a

1044
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:56.039
<v Speaker 12>great job at quarterback of taking the challenge to run

1045
00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:59.079
<v Speaker 12>the ball more and you know create that would would

1046
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:02.639
<v Speaker 12>help us create more holes for Josh and uh. And

1047
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 12>then he made the throws when he needs to make

1048
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:06.800
<v Speaker 12>the throws. And then defensively it would stop the run

1049
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:09.760
<v Speaker 12>and uh. And you know, our defensive side of the

1050
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.559
<v Speaker 12>ball did a great job. Our d line, you know,

1051
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.280
<v Speaker 12>did a really nice job in our linebackers are stopping

1052
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.679
<v Speaker 12>to run and uh. And we put a lot of

1053
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:21.239
<v Speaker 12>stress on our corners and they manned up, you know,

1054
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.360
<v Speaker 12>Jordan Thomas and Veto Tiddell and manned up and did

1055
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.400
<v Speaker 12>a great job and and uh gave us the opportunity

1056
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.280
<v Speaker 12>to you know, get get three and out and you know,

1057
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:34.360
<v Speaker 12>get teams off the off the field basically, and uh

1058
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:36.480
<v Speaker 12>get the ball back to our offense, which we ended

1059
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:39.320
<v Speaker 12>up I don't know where we were at one point.

1060
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:41.559
<v Speaker 12>We were in the top five in time of possession.

1061
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:44.320
<v Speaker 12>I don't know where we've ended up at, which you

1062
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:47.400
<v Speaker 12>know helps your defense because they're sitting on the side.

1063
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, defenses.

1064
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 12>It was the first smiling on him.

1065
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I've not heard.

1066
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Many coaches well, UH talk about making philosophical changes. I mean,

1067
00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you we can't install entirely new schemes and all, but uh,

1068
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:06.679
<v Speaker 1>to go in a different direction in the middle of

1069
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:09.079
<v Speaker 1>the year. Have you ever been a part of a

1070
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:10.039
<v Speaker 1>staff that's done that.

1071
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:15.440
<v Speaker 12>Uh, yes, I have, not totally like kind of what

1072
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 12>we did, because you know, we've been known around here

1073
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:19.440
<v Speaker 12>to throw it all over the yard, right and do

1074
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:22.559
<v Speaker 12>those kinds of things, and that just wasn't where we

1075
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:25.920
<v Speaker 12>were at. With injuries and new quarterback and things like that.

1076
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:28.519
<v Speaker 12>We just weren't you know, we didn't have the time

1077
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 12>to prepare each other. So we just said, hey, we've

1078
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:33.320
<v Speaker 12>got to do this. And I credit Andy Richmond and

1079
00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:37.760
<v Speaker 12>our offensive staff for doing that. And uh and you know,

1080
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.320
<v Speaker 12>understanding that we got to play complimentary football. That's basically

1081
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:45.239
<v Speaker 12>what my challenge was to our coordinators, you know. And

1082
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:48.719
<v Speaker 12>and you know, our special teams ended up playing playing well,

1083
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:51.559
<v Speaker 12>and I felt like, you know, when we got all

1084
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:53.400
<v Speaker 12>in there, we said, Hey, the only thing that matters

1085
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:56.719
<v Speaker 12>is winning. It's not stats, it's not is this kid

1086
00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.039
<v Speaker 12>going to transfer because he's not doing this or that

1087
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:01.400
<v Speaker 12>or this or that. It's just go out and win.

1088
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:05.079
<v Speaker 12>And this is what it's going to take to win.

1089
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:08.519
<v Speaker 12>You know, Offensively, we've got to keep the ball. Defensively,

1090
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:10.360
<v Speaker 12>we've got to get out, we've got to get off

1091
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:12.679
<v Speaker 12>the field. And special teams is going to have to

1092
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.039
<v Speaker 12>score at certain times of the year and they did

1093
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:18.199
<v Speaker 12>or put us up in scoring position and they did,

1094
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 12>and you know, and give us opportunities every game. And

1095
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:25.039
<v Speaker 12>so those are the things that we just sat down

1096
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:26.599
<v Speaker 12>and talked about and then we went to and then

1097
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:28.920
<v Speaker 12>those guys went to work and we talked about it.

1098
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:31.559
<v Speaker 12>And you know, I'm really proud of our staff and

1099
00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:33.760
<v Speaker 12>how they handle that, but also the kids because it

1100
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:36.840
<v Speaker 12>take great sacrifice. I mean, we had a we had

1101
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:39.800
<v Speaker 12>a guard that had to play tackle all year and

1102
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:42.400
<v Speaker 12>that takes great events at Mundlin Junior, that takes great

1103
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.119
<v Speaker 12>sacrifice guard for three years, right, he wants to play

1104
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:46.800
<v Speaker 12>at the next level and he has to go out

1105
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:50.519
<v Speaker 12>and play tackle. Yes, and he played well enough, but

1106
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:53.079
<v Speaker 12>you know, he probably would have played better as a

1107
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:56.360
<v Speaker 12>four year guy attack and got you know, or a

1108
00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:59.159
<v Speaker 12>three year guy and uh. And so those are the

1109
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.559
<v Speaker 12>sacrifices that it takes to have a good football team,

1110
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:06.960
<v Speaker 12>whether it's you know, changing philosophies like you said, or

1111
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.960
<v Speaker 12>whether it's just coming together and understand there's a greater

1112
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:12.840
<v Speaker 12>cause than just yourself. And that's the hardest thing you

1113
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:16.280
<v Speaker 12>got to you got to get across nowadays in this

1114
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:18.400
<v Speaker 12>inn il transfer portal era.

1115
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:23.039
<v Speaker 1>And Josh Carter ran for a one thousand yards one

1116
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:25.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred yards per game basically, and he was a red

1117
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:26.519
<v Speaker 1>shirt senior.

1118
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Do you lose him?

1119
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:32.000
<v Speaker 12>Yes, we lose him. He uh had a great season

1120
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:36.800
<v Speaker 12>and we knew, we knew he was Josh was capable

1121
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:39.599
<v Speaker 12>of what he's capable. Uh, you know, and we're gonna

1122
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:41.960
<v Speaker 12>miss his talent and his will to win and his

1123
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:44.599
<v Speaker 12>will to run the football. Uh, and we're gonna miss

1124
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:47.400
<v Speaker 12>his leadership expect But what a great young man. And

1125
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 12>you know his brothers. His brother gets everything. Brother plays

1126
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:53.719
<v Speaker 12>for the Cardinals and great tailback and all this that

1127
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:55.760
<v Speaker 12>and the other. But Josh is a heck of a

1128
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:57.760
<v Speaker 12>heck of a person and a heck of a player.

1129
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Well and signing days come going here looking into portal.

1130
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:03.679
<v Speaker 1>But you came into election and you got some talent.

1131
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:07.559
<v Speaker 1>You got some talent uh at uh Boyle County over

1132
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:10.679
<v Speaker 1>at Woodford County. I know you're happy with with your

1133
00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 1>with your sinees and can't wait to get.

1134
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:17.039
<v Speaker 12>Definitely, you know, okay, wait, I mean we you know,

1135
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:19.199
<v Speaker 12>we've got so many different signing periods now is just

1136
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.760
<v Speaker 12>never ending. And that first signing period, because of our

1137
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:26.000
<v Speaker 12>location and we're in state, we try to make sure

1138
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:28.400
<v Speaker 12>we get our in state kids in that first signing

1139
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:31.119
<v Speaker 12>period because you know, we want them. We want to

1140
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:34.079
<v Speaker 12>make sure we don't miss on anybody. That's what I

1141
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:38.639
<v Speaker 12>call local, which is obviously Kentucky, but you know East Tennessee, uh,

1142
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:41.239
<v Speaker 12>and then Cincinnati down you know, if we can, or

1143
00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:43.559
<v Speaker 12>West Virginia if we ever get somebody from there. And

1144
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:46.800
<v Speaker 12>so you know, we got like you said, boll County, uh,

1145
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:50.719
<v Speaker 12>Woodford County, Uh, Frederick Douglass, I mean, we've got we've

1146
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:53.679
<v Speaker 12>got some good young talent here in the state that

1147
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:57.320
<v Speaker 12>we're excited about and uh looking forward to getting them

1148
00:58:57.360 --> 00:58:59.559
<v Speaker 12>over here in the summer and starting to work with them.

1149
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:01.880
<v Speaker 12>But you got long ways to go because the portals

1150
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:06.239
<v Speaker 12>just opened yesterday and and uh, you know, and we've

1151
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:09.440
<v Speaker 12>been fortunate, but uh, but I'm sure you know we've

1152
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:11.800
<v Speaker 12>got players. Like you said that people are recruiting right

1153
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:16.960
<v Speaker 12>now that that you know, hey, whatever their decision is,

1154
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:19.159
<v Speaker 12>they know we love them and want them to be

1155
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:19.880
<v Speaker 12>a part of us.

1156
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:20.760
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

1157
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:22.800
<v Speaker 12>But we're gonna be supportive of them and do what

1158
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:24.719
<v Speaker 12>we have to do. But you got to You got

1159
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:26.840
<v Speaker 12>to recruit who for who you think might be here

1160
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:29.880
<v Speaker 12>or not might not be here, and then you got

1161
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.719
<v Speaker 12>to recruit for who's not here. And then we still

1162
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:35.079
<v Speaker 12>got some hospital signings that we'll do in February from

1163
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:36.320
<v Speaker 12>Florida and Georgia.

1164
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Coach always great talking football with you. Appreciated and we'll

1165
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:40.400
<v Speaker 1>talk again soon.

1166
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:43.679
<v Speaker 12>Appreciate your time, Dick, Happy holidays.

1167
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:46.599
<v Speaker 1>Weston Bureau chief Gary Moore up next here on six

1168
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:49.039
<v Speaker 1>thirty Welcome back to the Big Mow Insider joining us

1169
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:51.119
<v Speaker 1>now he's had a little bit of ahave this because

1170
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:53.880
<v Speaker 1>our West End Bureau chief, Gary Moore was back on

1171
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the West Coast for a little while.

1172
00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:59.199
<v Speaker 4>But he's back with a notebook full of stuff. Well

1173
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:00.719
<v Speaker 4>we got we got two guys in a six pack.

1174
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:02.119
<v Speaker 4>But don't want to tell you I was. We had

1175
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:04.159
<v Speaker 4>to go back there for a wedding and you'll appreciate this.

1176
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:08.000
<v Speaker 4>It was one of the former equipment managers for Oregon

1177
01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:11.400
<v Speaker 4>University of Oregon football team, nice and he got married

1178
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:14.000
<v Speaker 4>in San Clementi And how cool was this? Of course,

1179
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:18.199
<v Speaker 4>during the reception when Oregon was playing Penn State. You

1180
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 4>better damn well believe there are TVs blast in the game.

1181
01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:23.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how many weddings you've gone to where

1182
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 4>there's a football game on multiple screens, but this was

1183
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:27.519
<v Speaker 4>very cool once in a while.

1184
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:30.440
<v Speaker 2>But how in the world happened? How do they schedule that?

1185
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Clearly the bride had a say in that.

1186
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:35.280
<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, well, you know they both went to Oregon,

1187
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:36.320
<v Speaker 4>so there is what I'm saying.

1188
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:38.679
<v Speaker 2>How do you schedule it on a football weekend?

1189
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:41.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, that's another story for another day. How dare

1190
01:00:41.639 --> 01:00:42.360
<v Speaker 4>they even think that?

1191
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

1192
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:46.159
<v Speaker 4>Well, Dick, our first sip in the six pack here,

1193
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:48.639
<v Speaker 4>we know we've had rivalry weekend already in football, so

1194
01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:51.679
<v Speaker 4>it's time for the same annual animosity in basketball. We

1195
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:54.880
<v Speaker 4>got two of them this weekend. Let's not bury the lead.

1196
01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:58.559
<v Speaker 4>Number five UK and number unranked U of L men's

1197
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:01.840
<v Speaker 4>hoops five point fifteen tomorrow rupp Arena. It's on the

1198
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:05.599
<v Speaker 4>ESPN Mothership. Cats have won five by the last six

1199
01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:07.400
<v Speaker 4>As I know you've talked about this week, eight out

1200
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:11.559
<v Speaker 4>of last ten, including that ninety five seventy six blowout.

1201
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:14.880
<v Speaker 4>Kenny Paine's last experience with that game over here at

1202
01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:18.000
<v Speaker 4>the Youm Center. It was a decidedly big Blue crowd

1203
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:21.360
<v Speaker 4>last December. Both the Cats and the Cards might have

1204
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:25.599
<v Speaker 4>gotten a little distracted, maybe lackadaisical two in that Wednesday

1205
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 4>in their Wednesday warmups Colgate and UTEP respectively. They will

1206
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:34.159
<v Speaker 4>not be lackadaisical Tomorrow night. Cards come in shorthanded, as

1207
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:36.360
<v Speaker 4>we know, because of injuries as well as short on

1208
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:39.800
<v Speaker 4>made threes. U of l seventh in the nation for

1209
01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 4>three point attempts in a game. They average almost just

1210
01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:44.320
<v Speaker 4>under thirty two a game, but they're one hundred and

1211
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:47.559
<v Speaker 4>nineteenth in the nation for actually making the threes about

1212
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:50.880
<v Speaker 4>twenty seven percent. And on Wednesday, Dick ufl went six

1213
01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:55.039
<v Speaker 4>for thirty four from the arch for anemic seventeen point

1214
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:58.119
<v Speaker 4>six percent, and they did better against Duke oddly enough

1215
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:01.400
<v Speaker 4>thirty five percent. They still lost. It says here that

1216
01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:05.360
<v Speaker 4>if Louisville shoots that poorly again and anemick like in

1217
01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:09.320
<v Speaker 4>the teens from threes and they don't get rebounds, UK

1218
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:11.559
<v Speaker 4>is gonna win going away. I think there's like an

1219
01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:14.360
<v Speaker 4>eighty six percent chance Kentucky's gonna win anyway, accorney to

1220
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:18.599
<v Speaker 4>Espen Analytics. But if Louisville does shoot thirty percent or

1221
01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:21.000
<v Speaker 4>better like Colgate did the other night kolkg had thirty

1222
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:24.199
<v Speaker 4>three percent from the arch, could be close, maybe even overtime,

1223
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:27.599
<v Speaker 4>especially if there's still no Lamont Butler for the Cats.

1224
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:29.199
<v Speaker 4>What have you heard on that front?

1225
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They think that having back, we'll find out a little

1226
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:35.719
<v Speaker 1>bit well as we speak later today.

1227
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:38.039
<v Speaker 2>As you hear this, folks, we should know.

1228
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:43.960
<v Speaker 1>But all of this is predicated as well on Kentucky shooting,

1229
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:46.960
<v Speaker 1>because Colgate shot itself back into the game.

1230
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:49.039
<v Speaker 2>How Kentucky couldn't buy one.

1231
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's in a team wise slump over the last four

1232
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:56.400
<v Speaker 1>games or so, shot it insanely well early and now

1233
01:02:56.480 --> 01:02:58.920
<v Speaker 1>is not hitting very well at all from the outside

1234
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.559
<v Speaker 1>because other teams are doing a good job or running

1235
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:03.760
<v Speaker 1>them off the three point line, not letting them get

1236
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:06.920
<v Speaker 1>comfortable on the arc. And I think Pat Kelsey will

1237
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.800
<v Speaker 1>make sure the Cardinals do the same thing. So but

1238
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:12.440
<v Speaker 1>against Gonzaga, Kentucky lived.

1239
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:14.639
<v Speaker 2>In the paint. I think it will do that tomorrow.

1240
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:18.679
<v Speaker 4>Second swig Dan I sixty five did Arena had Dan

1241
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:21.880
<v Speaker 4>Weell beater better be rocking like Ropperena will be tomorrow night.

1242
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:25.920
<v Speaker 4>Western and Murray State renew a rivalry that started back

1243
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:29.920
<v Speaker 4>up last season, WKU winning at Murray in the first

1244
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:32.519
<v Speaker 4>of a four game yearly series that had been dormant

1245
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:37.039
<v Speaker 4>for nine years for some inexcusable reason. Obviously, these two

1246
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:38.800
<v Speaker 4>have to play every year. And as some guy who

1247
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:41.679
<v Speaker 4>grew up in Murray cheering for the Racers nearly every

1248
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:44.119
<v Speaker 4>home game, including that epic seventy one upset of the

1249
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:46.679
<v Speaker 4>number seven ranked Toppers that went on to the Final four,

1250
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:49.840
<v Speaker 4>then I had left Callaway County for college at the

1251
01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:53.360
<v Speaker 4>hated rival in Bowling Green. I know a rivalry that

1252
01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:55.880
<v Speaker 4>needs to happen every year when I see when regardless

1253
01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.039
<v Speaker 4>of who the new athletic directors are or who the

1254
01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:00.800
<v Speaker 4>new coaches are, don't get it. You just have to

1255
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:04.159
<v Speaker 4>play these two every year. Western right now six and three,

1256
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:06.239
<v Speaker 4>three game winning streak coming into the game, while the

1257
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:09.639
<v Speaker 4>Racers are six and two, also winners of their last three.

1258
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:12.719
<v Speaker 4>And if you want to talk about how evenly matched

1259
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:16.239
<v Speaker 4>they are, besides that, Western averages eighty point seven points

1260
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<v Speaker 4>a game, Murray State seventy nine point eight points a

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01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 4>game tip off is at two o'clock, but it's on

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01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:27.239
<v Speaker 4>ESPN Plus. And should I pull from my alma mater

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01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 4>or should I say for the I can't say go

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01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:31.039
<v Speaker 4>Racers or go Toppers. May the best team win.

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01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a great rivalry and people need to better

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01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:41.679
<v Speaker 1>appreciate the basketball tradition at both Murray State has taking

1267
01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:44.800
<v Speaker 1>teams into the NCATE Tournament as one in the tournament

1268
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:48.480
<v Speaker 1>before is scared teams. So is Western Kentucky making that

1269
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:51.840
<v Speaker 1>deep run under Darren Horns. So I love that rivalry

1270
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:55.159
<v Speaker 1>and people, I hope pay more attention to it. Hey

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01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:57.840
<v Speaker 1>watch that one to warm up for the Kentucky Louisville game.

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01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.960
<v Speaker 4>Sure thing our third switch in the six packs. Speaking

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01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:04.199
<v Speaker 4>Western Louisville, Let's talk football and specifically dick the portal

1274
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:08.239
<v Speaker 4>where u of L has grabbed Hilltopper linebacker transferred Darius Thomas.

1275
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:12.360
<v Speaker 4>As a sophomore. This past season, Thomas had fifty four tackles,

1276
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:14.400
<v Speaker 4>seven for losses, and four sacks. He's going to be

1277
01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 4>missed in Bowling Green and I ask you, is it true?

1278
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Hilltopper quarterback and Conference USA Offensive Player of the Year,

1279
01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.440
<v Speaker 4>Caden Veldcamp, who's in the portal again this year? Is

1280
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:30.800
<v Speaker 4>it true? Interested eyes here in the ville are upon him?

1281
01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:34.360
<v Speaker 4>Then again, Cayden came back last year after he was

1282
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:38.159
<v Speaker 4>in the portal after that famous toastery Bowl performance. WKU's

1283
01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:41.239
<v Speaker 4>also got quarterback t J. Finley in the portal. He

1284
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:43.599
<v Speaker 4>was in it before. In fact, that's where they got

1285
01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:45.159
<v Speaker 4>him last year. He was slated to be the number

1286
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:47.320
<v Speaker 4>one this year, but he got hurt in Veldcamp took over.

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01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.719
<v Speaker 4>U of L needs a veteran quarterback and oh so

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01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:54.280
<v Speaker 4>does your alma mater. Have you heard anything about bringing

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01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:56.079
<v Speaker 4>a quarterback in from the portal for the.

1290
01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:57.679
<v Speaker 2>Cats, only that they're going to do it.

1291
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:01.119
<v Speaker 1>And those are two names that surprise you to see

1292
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:04.320
<v Speaker 1>pop upp either at UK or u of L. Everybody

1293
01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:08.519
<v Speaker 1>needs quarterback help, everybody needs depth. If Kentucky I can't

1294
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:11.119
<v Speaker 1>see Vandergriff coming back, I don't know about Whimsy, but

1295
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it looks right now like it's gonna be cutter bowly

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01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:17.280
<v Speaker 1>in two true freshmen. So yeah, they definitely need help,

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01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:20.559
<v Speaker 1>not only to make it a competition, but just in

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01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:23.599
<v Speaker 1>case of injury. Right, Thanks for reminding me about the

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01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Toaster Pastry Bowl whatever it.

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01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:29.840
<v Speaker 4>Was with the famous the famous Toastery Bowl with.

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01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:35.360
<v Speaker 1>The fulls the life size toaster pastry dropping itself into

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01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a toaster.

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01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:37.599
<v Speaker 4>Well, that was the pop Tarts Bowl.

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01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:39.280
<v Speaker 2>The pop Tarts Bowl. Is that what it was?

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01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:43.239
<v Speaker 4>No, that's coming up that this was a minor toastery.

1306
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:45.519
<v Speaker 4>This is this is a minor toaster. This was like

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01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:47.920
<v Speaker 4>a sandwich toasting company. I don't know it's back this year.

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01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't even remember that one. Wow.

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01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:54.480
<v Speaker 4>Happy memories of the pop Tart Bowl exactly. That's coming up.

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01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:56.840
<v Speaker 4>We may talk about that next week because that's gonna

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01:06:56.840 --> 01:07:00.159
<v Speaker 4>be fun our fourths, Wig and the six packs. So

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01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:04.199
<v Speaker 4>from college football, let's turn to the NFL and Dick.

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01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:06.840
<v Speaker 4>Besides the indignity of the Cowboys listed as two and

1314
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:11.360
<v Speaker 4>a half point underdogs at crummy Carolina, I have a

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01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:16.000
<v Speaker 4>fab four pack for Sunday possible Super Bowl preview. At

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01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:18.920
<v Speaker 4>the top of this, Buffalo at Detroit. How great a

1317
01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:21.119
<v Speaker 4>game is this? Potentially going to be Lions are two

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01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:23.480
<v Speaker 4>and a half point favorites. You also got Tampa Bay

1319
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:25.960
<v Speaker 4>at the Chargers LA at three point favorite in that

1320
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:29.599
<v Speaker 4>game for the Battle of the Keystone State. Pittsburgh at

1321
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Philly Eagles at last check five point favorites, but clearly

1322
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:35.719
<v Speaker 4>Dick the game of the season for you and me.

1323
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:38.840
<v Speaker 4>You're Green Bay Packers at my Seattle Seahawks on Sunday

1324
01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:43.199
<v Speaker 4>night football. You're going down, going down. Actually, the Packer

1325
01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:44.760
<v Speaker 4>two and a half point favorites. I will not be

1326
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:47.280
<v Speaker 4>surprised if they win because these Hawks have been crummy

1327
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:50.079
<v Speaker 4>at home this year. Now, besides the two and a

1328
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:52.480
<v Speaker 4>half million I've got invested on the Hawks to win

1329
01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:55.199
<v Speaker 4>straight up as using our house as collateral. How about

1330
01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:57.760
<v Speaker 4>you and I having a friendly bet the pack wins.

1331
01:07:57.800 --> 01:07:59.760
<v Speaker 4>I will buy you lunch over here at the Scottish

1332
01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:03.760
<v Speaker 4>restaut with the milkshake machine that never works. They have

1333
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:07.119
<v Speaker 4>a drive through case. You're you know, pressed for time.

1334
01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:10.440
<v Speaker 4>If the Hawks win, joe Be's again.

1335
01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can live with that, you know, honestly going

1336
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:18.239
<v Speaker 1>in reverse order. Uh that this game frightens me because

1337
01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:21.359
<v Speaker 1>your team is playing well with a quarterback that they

1338
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:24.560
<v Speaker 1>pulled off their reclamation ep and the Gino Smith or

1339
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:27.880
<v Speaker 1>West Virginia U product like my dad. Uh, my guys

1340
01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:32.520
<v Speaker 1>are playing well, but underdog at home on Sunday or

1341
01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Monday night is a really good.

1342
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:38.399
<v Speaker 2>Bet, believe it or not. Oh okay, yeah, it.

1343
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Just historically is I'm not saying you know anything of

1344
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:43.600
<v Speaker 1>an either team, so it wouldn't surprise me if the

1345
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:44.479
<v Speaker 1>Seahawks win it.

1346
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:47.479
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's gonna be fun.

1347
01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Pittsburgh at Philly it'll be a low scoring I would

1348
01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:56.720
<v Speaker 4>actually take the points and Pittsburgh five's a lot that

1349
01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:58.600
<v Speaker 4>they'll keep it close somehow.

1350
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Bucks charge you gotta like the Chargers on that one.

1351
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:05.800
<v Speaker 1>But the Bucks just keep surprising people. But yeah, Buffalo

1352
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:09.159
<v Speaker 1>at Detroit too bad. There won't be snow.

1353
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:11.399
<v Speaker 2>Like there might be up in Buffalo, right.

1354
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:13.920
<v Speaker 4>I think Detroit figures out a way to slow down

1355
01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:18.760
<v Speaker 4>Josh Allen, who right now would be my MVP, and

1356
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:22.560
<v Speaker 4>Detroit's been They've had some problems in their secondary that's true.

1357
01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:23.439
<v Speaker 4>Watch out for that.

1358
01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:26.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they'll get to Josh Allen.

1359
01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:30.199
<v Speaker 4>True our fifth wig and the six pack. So in

1360
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:32.720
<v Speaker 4>the lateest example, as we've seen in the last week

1361
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:37.439
<v Speaker 4>of MLB owners still not understanding how ridiculously long contracts

1362
01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:41.640
<v Speaker 4>never work out, Mets are guaranteeing Juan Soto seven hundred

1363
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:46.399
<v Speaker 4>and sixty five million dollars over fifteen kind of fifteen years.

1364
01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:50.279
<v Speaker 4>As as we've found out, that's actually sixty five million

1365
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:53.000
<v Speaker 4>fraction for playing for the Mets. Seven hundred million for

1366
01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:54.880
<v Speaker 4>having to live in Zuo York is how this is

1367
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:59.199
<v Speaker 4>apparently working out. Sodo also gets that free luxury suite

1368
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:01.720
<v Speaker 4>and up to four free premium tickets for home games.

1369
01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:05.039
<v Speaker 4>That was something that the Yankees apparently would not cough up. Hey,

1370
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:08.439
<v Speaker 4>buy him yourself, your greedy basket god, how much more

1371
01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:12.119
<v Speaker 4>do you want? Seven hundred and sixty five million? Dick

1372
01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:15.199
<v Speaker 4>breaks down to four hundred and twenty five million a month,

1373
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.680
<v Speaker 4>one hundred and forty thousand a day, six grand an hour,

1374
01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:21.039
<v Speaker 4>or one hundred bucks a minute, kind of like what

1375
01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:23.199
<v Speaker 4>you used to make at twenty seven over there, right.

1376
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:24.119
<v Speaker 2>I could live on that.

1377
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what's interesting about the sweet is that apparently

1378
01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:31.439
<v Speaker 1>he was one of the tipping points for so he's

1379
01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:35.800
<v Speaker 1>a he's a family guy, not none like the animated show,

1380
01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:38.640
<v Speaker 1>but he you know, it was important to him, and

1381
01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the Yankees basically felt like they had to say no,

1382
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:45.920
<v Speaker 1>because when you think about all the superstars that have

1383
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:49.760
<v Speaker 1>come through New York, if you grant that Dwan Soto,

1384
01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:51.720
<v Speaker 1>now you got to start doing it for all the

1385
01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:53.680
<v Speaker 1>other guys, you're gonna run out of sweets.

1386
01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:58.239
<v Speaker 4>The Mets not so much. That's sweet, you got it?

1387
01:10:58.279 --> 01:10:59.159
<v Speaker 4>How many would you like?

1388
01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:01.319
<v Speaker 2>So? I thought that was really interesting.

1389
01:11:01.399 --> 01:11:04.760
<v Speaker 1>But he basically said at the end he said the

1390
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Yankees did all they could except for the suite. He

1391
01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:10.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't say that, but that was clearly a tipping point.

1392
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:13.680
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, the La Times had a story

1393
01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:18.000
<v Speaker 4>early in the week about the Otani financial influence that

1394
01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:21.760
<v Speaker 4>he was bringing in from Japan. Yes, it's annually so

1395
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:24.600
<v Speaker 4>far in the nine figures, and it could be a

1396
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:28.720
<v Speaker 4>billion annually. Tourism groups, well, tourism groups, but also these

1397
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:31.479
<v Speaker 4>Japanese businesses are coming over there, like Nippon Airlines has

1398
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:34.159
<v Speaker 4>got an agreement with the Dodgers, toyot Tires. There's a

1399
01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:39.960
<v Speaker 4>bunch of famous and mid level Japanese businesses that are

1400
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:42.239
<v Speaker 4>striking agreements with the Dodgers. I mean that happened like

1401
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:45.880
<v Speaker 4>within the first couple of months. Excellent, our final swig.

1402
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.880
<v Speaker 4>One major college football game tomorrow, not a meaningless bowlgame though,

1403
01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:52.000
<v Speaker 4>just the opposite the one hundred and twenty fifth meeting

1404
01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:55.600
<v Speaker 4>between number twenty two Army and Navy Saturday afternoon, three

1405
01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:59.479
<v Speaker 4>o'clock on CBS at Northwest Stadium, which is formerly FedEx Field,

1406
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:02.359
<v Speaker 4>same place where the Washington Commanders have been playing for

1407
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:05.520
<v Speaker 4>a while. In landover Maryland, Army eleven and one four

1408
01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:09.960
<v Speaker 4>point favorite over the eight and three Midshipman. And we

1409
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.560
<v Speaker 4>talked earlier about Army's game uniforms honoring the World War

1410
01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:15.079
<v Speaker 4>two hundred and first Airborne Division down in Fort Campbell.

1411
01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:18.840
<v Speaker 4>Navy's uniforms will be honoring the Fighter Squadron seventeen from

1412
01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:20.920
<v Speaker 4>nineteen forty three, who had a pirate theme. So it's

1413
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:24.840
<v Speaker 4>gonna be the screaming Eagles versus the jolly Rogers, which

1414
01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:26.520
<v Speaker 4>will be a lot of fun to watch. Navy's gonna

1415
01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:28.720
<v Speaker 4>be playing, by the way, in a bowl game like Army.

1416
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:30.760
<v Speaker 4>They're gonna be Armed Forces Bowl against six and six

1417
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:34.199
<v Speaker 4>Oklahoma that's in Fort Worth and December twenty seventh and

1418
01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:36.520
<v Speaker 4>Dick despite being ranked much of the season, in fact,

1419
01:12:36.520 --> 01:12:40.800
<v Speaker 4>they're twenty two. Now Army gets relegated to Shreveport and

1420
01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:45.760
<v Speaker 4>the Independence Bowl against Marshall a day later. Doesn't Army

1421
01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.720
<v Speaker 4>deserve a better bowl than Shreveport? Isn't that like being

1422
01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:53.920
<v Speaker 4>relegated to like Siberia. Some Kentucky fans have long lived

1423
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:57.600
<v Speaker 4>back when the Independence Ball had an affiliation with Yeah,

1424
01:12:57.680 --> 01:12:59.560
<v Speaker 4>see see please keep winning. We don't want to go

1425
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:02.960
<v Speaker 4>to shreve No kidding, but no, that's gonna be a

1426
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:03.439
<v Speaker 4>great game.

1427
01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I got a Army winning that one. But I love it.

1428
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll record it, and I think it's great that they

1429
01:13:08.279 --> 01:13:11.560
<v Speaker 1>haven't moved it earlier in the season to you know,

1430
01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:13.359
<v Speaker 1>fit it into somebody's schedule.

1431
01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:15.479
<v Speaker 2>They've left it where it belongs.

1432
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:18.920
<v Speaker 4>That's that's not always the case with big time athletics

1433
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:19.199
<v Speaker 4>like that.

1434
01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1435
01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:22.640
<v Speaker 4>I like armying that one too. I would like to

1436
01:13:22.640 --> 01:13:24.560
<v Speaker 4>have seen them maybe somewhere closer in the in the

1437
01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:27.359
<v Speaker 4>East Coast. Oh yeah, for more of their their fan base.

1438
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:29.199
<v Speaker 4>You know, like they're playing at Yankee Stadium. Go back

1439
01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:31.039
<v Speaker 4>to Yankee Stadium. I know they played Notre Dame there,

1440
01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:33.000
<v Speaker 4>but you know, Fenway Park's got a Bowl game.

1441
01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:35.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know what, that's closer to West Point.

1442
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:38.600
<v Speaker 4>But the fan base for either one of those academies,

1443
01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:40.840
<v Speaker 4>service academies is everywhere.

1444
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee it. There'll be a massive crowd in Shreveport.

1445
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:47.479
<v Speaker 1>We'll come back with some odd reeves for Gary Moore.

1446
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.159
<v Speaker 1>He is our West End bureau chief here on the

1447
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Big bluon sider six thirty WLAP welcome back to the

1448
01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Big blon Sider. We're chatting with our West End bureau chief,

1449
01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Gary Moore, back from the West coast, so we've been

1450
01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:01.039
<v Speaker 1>waiting to throw some hotters at him.

1451
01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:03.840
<v Speaker 2>First of all, let me start off with and I

1452
01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:05.039
<v Speaker 2>gave you this ahead of time so.

1453
01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:06.439
<v Speaker 1>You may have had a chance to look it up.

1454
01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be a great trivia question.

1455
01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Who is the interim coach replaced at North Carolina by

1456
01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick?

1457
01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:19.640
<v Speaker 4>Look at his staff? Freddy Freddy Kitchens.

1458
01:14:19.720 --> 01:14:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Freddie Kitchens.

1459
01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Now Freddie Kitchens is best known. He's a career coach.

1460
01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:28.920
<v Speaker 4>He was at one point, for one year, the head

1461
01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:32.199
<v Speaker 4>coach of the Mighty Mighty Cleveland Browns. They went sixteen

1462
01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:32.640
<v Speaker 4>and ten.

1463
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:36.960
<v Speaker 1>He has worked in the NFL for the Cardinals, the Giants,

1464
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:41.439
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, was an assistant in Mississippi State, North Texas, LSU,

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<v Speaker 1>Glenville State in West Virginia. But to me, he will

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<v Speaker 1>always be the quarterback at Alabama the night they lost

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<v Speaker 1>to the Kentucky Wildcast. Now when he was a QB

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<v Speaker 1>at Alabama. When he played there, they went to the

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01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Citrus Bowl. They went to the Outback Bowl. But the

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<v Speaker 1>following year from the Outback Bowl. There were four and

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<v Speaker 1>seven and lost to Kentucky and set off the bedlam

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<v Speaker 1>here in Lexing, and it resulted with the gold post

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01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:12.600
<v Speaker 1>coming down and hilarity ensuing.

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<v Speaker 4>That needs to happen again, in fact more often over

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<v Speaker 4>the next few years. As a matter of fact, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that should definitely keep happening. But yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>I remember that. I think if you follow Kentucky football

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01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:26.199
<v Speaker 4>anytime in your life, you definitely remember the times when

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<v Speaker 4>you beat the Georgia's in the Alabamas.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he was the tight ends coach and a run

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01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:36.119
<v Speaker 1>game coordinator at North Carolina. So now you know where's

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01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:37.800
<v Speaker 1>he gonna go. You gotta wonder what he's gonna do.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, people are wondering if what is Billichick? But seventy two,

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<v Speaker 4>I think is what his age is. Yeah, if he's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be able to recruit younger players or relate to them, Well,

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01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:51.960
<v Speaker 4>he's recruited a twenty four year old that for arm Candy,

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<v Speaker 4>So I think he's doing okay so far on that front. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>our second high read for Gary uh you're picked for

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<v Speaker 4>the Heisman that's coming up, and it looks like a

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<v Speaker 4>two way player is.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to get there.

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<v Speaker 4>But there that's my pick.

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<v Speaker 1>There are other candidates. Probably the best player is from

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<v Speaker 1>Boise State. How great would that be if.

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<v Speaker 2>Gent won it?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course you got mister Gabriel, your cousin. Would you

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<v Speaker 4>love to see that?

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I gould.

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<v Speaker 4>See somebody other than a quarterback. You know, if Jendy

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<v Speaker 4>went it, that's fine. But I think Hunter is just

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<v Speaker 4>he's just kind of separated himself. He's done so well

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<v Speaker 4>on both ends. Yeah, I mean you can't say, well,

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01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:39.920
<v Speaker 4>he's better as a dB than he has a receiver. Well, no,

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01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:44.039
<v Speaker 4>he's greaty, he's superb, But he's the NFL ready at

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01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:45.960
<v Speaker 4>either one. That's a bad question.

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01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:51.479
<v Speaker 1>Statistically their best receiver and statistically with four picks, their

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01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:54.760
<v Speaker 1>best defensive back. So it's not just a guy they're

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<v Speaker 1>putting in there for show or because they're short on players.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's it's it's probably gonna be him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a uh and he's odds.

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<v Speaker 2>On to win it.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I said, it would be really cool if

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<v Speaker 4>a Boise State running back got got there. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it could be. It could be Uh, the

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<v Speaker 4>two way guy in a runaway.

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<v Speaker 1>Although supposedly his teammate Shador Sanders will be the number

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<v Speaker 1>one pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Soft.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're an NFL coach and you draft Hunter, how

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<v Speaker 4>do how do you how do you play him? What

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<v Speaker 4>would you what would you see him on?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they played Dion at defensive back because he

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01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:37.239
<v Speaker 1>was so good at defensive back that he could cut

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01:17:37.239 --> 01:17:39.640
<v Speaker 1>the field in half. I don't know that Travis Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>is that good, but he we just know he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>good enough, you know. I think the other two, I

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<v Speaker 1>think all four of these guys will be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>top five, top seven picks.

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<v Speaker 2>In the NFL draft. But I often think it's cool

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<v Speaker 2>if a two way player want it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would love to see that, and let's see

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01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:00.680
<v Speaker 4>more often. And you know a team that probably a

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<v Speaker 4>team that needs both a defensive back and a wide

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01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:07.359
<v Speaker 4>receiver is gonna benefit from a guy like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no question, no question.

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<v Speaker 4>And age when you're trying to make do with multimillion

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<v Speaker 4>dollar players who walk off the field and don't feel

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<v Speaker 4>like playing at the end of that guy, if he's

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<v Speaker 4>not already cut by broadcast on ya, that's that's You're

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01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:26.279
<v Speaker 4>not gonna stand for that, not in the grown man league.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever the equivalent is of cutting him, firing him on

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01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the tarmac. That's what they should have done with that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Moore is our West End bureau chief.

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<v Speaker 1>We chat with him every week when he's not trapesing

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01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:42.000
<v Speaker 1>about the country. If you'd like to chat with him,

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01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:44.439
<v Speaker 1>you can find him on Twitter or x at.

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<v Speaker 4>At nine to five five Gary, the same place we

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01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:47.920
<v Speaker 4>always find you at.

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Insider one. We will see you next week.

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<v Speaker 4>Go team. May the best teams win this week and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to do it thanks to my guest, Gary Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Rutlins coach wald Wells UK Louisville Tomorrow five point fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Tip free game of two thirty with a KSR Boys

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<v Speaker 1>Network at three point thirty and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Jack and Tom at five fifteen. That'sh it. Goodnight

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<v Speaker 2>from the garage and Electioningdon.

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<v Speaker 4>My safe word will be whiskey.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, Rod, what was that whiskey?

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<v Speaker 13>So you mean a whiskey?

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<v Speaker 4>What you're saying? It weird? Saying what weird?

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<v Speaker 6>All of it?

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<v Speaker 4>Where do you get off?

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<v Speaker 11>I just don't get what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It that way?

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<v Speaker 4>Why I'm saying what?

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<v Speaker 2>What way? Forget it?

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<v Speaker 14>I will? I will forget it.

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<v Speaker 10>Dad,
