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Speaker 2: This week on softcore History, we are talking about my

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favorite war crime America ever committed. In World War One.

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America hit the battlefield and the Germans were immediately like, whoa, whoa,

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you guys are going way too hard. That is way

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too much. What you are doing is a war crime.

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That weapon you are using using it is a war crime.

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Please stop. You know what the American said, We said no,

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So learn about my favorite American war crime in World

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War One. It's not really a war crime today right

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now on softcore.

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Speaker 3: History, Welcome to softcore History. What is up?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Softcore History. I am your host for

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the week, Rob Fox, joined as always by Dan Regester.

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Speaker 1: You got a little zen in your mouth?

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Speaker 3: Huh uh?

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Speaker 2: Forgive me father, for I have zend zen.

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Speaker 3: Daddy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now I want to know I've been zenning in

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front of my wife.

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Speaker 1: They don't sponsor the show, by the way.

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Speaker 2: But no, they don't. Lucy by Lucy. Actually, if you're

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gonna buy anything, because they sponsor our other employers, but

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not until they pay us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, But I've been zenning in front of my wife.

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She hasn't noticed. And I know people who know my

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wife listen to this, and I know my wife would

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be not thrilled that I start begun to zen, So

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don't tell her that. Guys, don't inform my wife that

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I'm throwing us in in. I actually had it in

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just to see if she would notice.

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Speaker 3: Multiple time.

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Speaker 1: I guess it beats.

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Speaker 4: You smell your breath, and I can smell someone's breath

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when they's in. I know there's inn. It's minty. Have

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you always had a minty fresh breath always?

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Speaker 3: Oh? That makes sense? Then? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He brushes his teeth twelve times a day, twelve.

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Speaker 2: Times a day. I'm terribly afraid of ginger vite.

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Speaker 1: He currently has no gums.

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Speaker 3: It's bad.

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Speaker 2: They bleed when a breeze hits them, like he was

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adush if I smile on.

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Speaker 3: A breeze, all teeth. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We're joined today by our returning guest, but our first

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time expert guest, Scott Lopez.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, how's it going.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. By the way, you're the one that

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did the episode I'm Bleeding Kansas.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't think Max Martini was an expert on

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D Day.

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Speaker 2: It turns out he is not a method actor.

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Speaker 1: Didn't know what goddamn think about sim Brett Ryne. You

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put a helmet on and showed up, which I respect. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because really the first expert of anything you've had

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on about a topic.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we have my pregnant wife on and an episode

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about pregnancy, but she didn't feel I didn't feel like

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she knew.

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Speaker 3: What she was talking about.

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Speaker 1: No, well, she didn't have a kid up until that point.

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It wasn't about pregnancy there, it was about being a mother,

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so she had no experience.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 2: True, she was praying with our first child.

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Speaker 3: That's really funny.

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Speaker 1: Jake's been on obviously many episodes where he leads the conspiracy. Well,

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Jake did an oyster episode, but he had not done

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oyster farming yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say what I was gonna say was, actually,

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I've been an expert on the show before. Because you

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did Bleeding Kansas, it doesn't mean it and I'm an

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expert on Bleeding Kansas. That's why I wanre my Mizoo

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gir today would be kay. You go listen to Dan's

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Bleeding Kansas episode if you want to hear my hatred

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for that.

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Speaker 1: Stay you're a propaganda piece or whatever. He's just the

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mouthpiece for Miszoo.

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Speaker 2: For the Missourians, for the Bushwhackers. Look, we've all made mistakes.

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I'm just getting fuck Kansas.

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Speaker 3: So why are you spitting with the zen? Why not?

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Speaker 1: You can suck?

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Speaker 2: I know I do both, but I'm a little baby

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with nicotine.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: You want to feel like you're actually dipping.

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Speaker 4: It does feel cool to spit, but also it's gross.

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Do you leave cups everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Or bottle I don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're gonna do that, let's get a spatoon.

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Speaker 2: We should get a spatoon, like an old Western spatoon.

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Speaker 3: I'm down with that.

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Speaker 1: Somebody can send it.

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Speaker 3: In, give it its own mic, we can hear it

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when it thinks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but today we're talking about some weaponry. Scott, what

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is it? What is your background? You don't need to

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say who you work for, but you are a gun maker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I've been a fan of guns my whole life. I

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joined the military and shot a bunch of guns, rocket launchers,

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you name it. And then over the past four years

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almost I make guns now, so what kind of guns?

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Speaker 3: Handguns? Handguns?

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Speaker 4: Mostly yeah, mostly mostly handguns. We've dabbled in other things before,

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but currently we just make handguns.

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Speaker 1: Now, we're not saying the organization because he's a FED,

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he's under cover FED.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's collecting information. He wrote down everyone who wore

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a Trump Vance Take America back shirt at his at

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his work, which was everyone. Uh so they didn't even

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really need you there. It was just like who works there.

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Speaker 1: They're all getting part in it anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the best undercover FEDS look like me. Yes, long hair,

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a puka shell necklace, and a beaver costume.

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Speaker 3: They'd never suspect you. Yeah, that's why they're building dams.

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Speaker 2: That's my favorite thing about late stage Ku Klux Klan

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is it was just like half FBI agents, not like

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joining it, like like infiltrating. It's all FBI dudes.

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Speaker 4: My my ex girlfriend's mom said that she did that

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to infiltrate the clan, but really.

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Speaker 3: I think she was just she was That's what they

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that's what everyone said to the clan. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now Pukashell in Texas puts everyone's mind in a pretzel. Like,

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who's this guy who's pukashell necklace?

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Speaker 3: He's one chill Ombra. They say Central Texas. There's water Texas.

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Speaker 4: Who is kind of pukash shell territory. Not really, This

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is Austin hippie dude. I have a salt life tramp stamp. Okay,

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I'm about that life you.

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Speaker 1: Catch them wave.

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Speaker 2: Also, yeah, he looks like he has a timeshare on

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the Gallison coast.

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: That would make more sense. Yeah, on the coast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you work at a restaurant that's South Padre.

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Speaker 4: Yeah exactly right, just as a cook a line shot

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yeah yeah, not even anything cool?

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Speaker 3: Yeah man, so life, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 2: But today we are talking about maybe my favorite war

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for firearms because it was such a transitional period.

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Speaker 1: Were talking about the Pressure War.

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Speaker 2: No, we're talking about World War One because that was

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like steampunk war.

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Speaker 3: Oh cool.

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Speaker 4: There's still some World War One guns currently in Ukraine

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right now. It's pretty wild.

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Speaker 2: We saw that. I saw better than that today, Ben

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and Kansas shout out. He sent me a video from Syria.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They were using a two hundred year old Ottoman cannon

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on the back of a truck.

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Speaker 3: That was it a highlux too, like a tod a

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high lux?

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Speaker 2: Uh, it was a little bigger than that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha.

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Speaker 1: Well listen check out patreon dot com slash softcore history

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where we actually talk about Syria.

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Speaker 3: Whoa do we?

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Speaker 1: I was writing an episode in midway through the news

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broke that Syria has fallen.

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Speaker 2: Oh we're talking about okay this week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh just recent hell yeah, so we'll talk about that

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on this Wednesday. Yeah, patroont coms last software history. But

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what do you guys think? World War One was full

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of nightmare weapons? Possibly even more than World War Two? Really,

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what do you guys think the worst thing the Germans

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faced in World War One was flame throwers gas tanks.

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Speaker 4: For the first time, I'd have to say for them,

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the like seventeen year old American with a slam fire

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shotgun and a sword on the end of it.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about today. Yeah, fucking goddamn shotguns,

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specifically the Winchester Model ninety seven pump action shot.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say the bio of the French I

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think they're pretty.

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Speaker 4: In the bio of just dead bodies all around you,

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with rats eating them. It probably just all smelled and

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you couldn't tell a Frenchman from everyone corporates.

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Speaker 2: Everyone was French hy Yeah, and not at first, but

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two weeks into the trenches, everyone smelled French. I would say,

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I would, I would take a guess. What's funny to

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about is that, like it was such and freshly advanced

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technological war, like in a way that I don't I

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is like that scene in Transformers where the troops are

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in the desert and that scorpion robot just starts popping

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out of the ground. Yep, and Tyres and Josh duml

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are like, what the fuck that is? Like every month

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in World War One was basically a scorpion robot propping

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Speaker 1: But now insert like a million dead horses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: People don't think about the horses that were all just

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littered across the You know, man's.

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Speaker 4: Still doing cavalry charges is wild, That's so crazy, a

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fucking night.

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Speaker 2: Like like literally like it's it's shit. So we talked

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about We talked about this in the Hannibal episod, right,

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like like elephants were so terrifying to like the Romans

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and stuff. It would be the equivalent of like people

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riding out of the sea today on giant octopuses and

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you're just like, look like people are just killing themselves instead.

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Speaker 3: Of they're like what if that?

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Speaker 2: Like fuck, fuck it, I'm out. I can't deal with this.

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That Like World War One was like that, but machines.

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I feel like like it's like or like you know,

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the the tripods pop up and wore the worlds and

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everyone was like what the fuck that? Every month in

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World War One is a new thing, Like what's that

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cloud on the ground coming towards us? What is this?

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What is this fucking giant metal box with eight machine

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guns on it crawling.

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Speaker 3: Towards us going three miles an hour?

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Speaker 2: What a flamethrower? Like a flamethrower is like, what do

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you mean they're throwing flames at us?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they do a pretty good job on it.

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Speaker 3: And then you see like your first person die from

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a flamethrower. You go, what, no, I've gotten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a scene in all Quiet on the Western

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Speaker 2: Just with both yeah, tanks and flamethrow.

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Speaker 1: I think the flamethrowers come after the tanks. Yeah, And

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he's just like what and yeah, it's this.

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Speaker 2: The Germans are just like I don't know what that

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Speaker 4: The other I got told to go to the front

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lines yesterday. I was just on a farm a week ago.

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Speaker 2: But for Germany, none of those weapons apparently bothered them

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as much as the Winchester Model ninety seven pump action

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shotgun aka the trench broom YEP, which is one of

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my favorite weapon nicknames of all Goddamn time.

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Speaker 1: I didn't care for the finger wag.

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Speaker 2: You just did the trench broom. Well, this is this

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is Z rob points fingerways, energies.

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Speaker 1: High spirit fingers because you just be ku.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy m I Z baby fuck k you. We

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got a live fuck Ku chan on on ESPN. It

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was great, What a day?

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Speaker 3: What a day.

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Speaker 2: I definitely wasn't screaming at my television, thank god. By

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my children were napping.

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Speaker 1: They're not conscious, They're not really gonna comprehend what's going on.

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Speaker 2: No, they were both awake during the gold medal game

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against France. Yeah, and Steph Curry like, you know, it

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got a little tight at the end, and Steph Curry

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hit the big three.

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Speaker 3: After big three.

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Speaker 2: When Steph Curry hit I think his second three, I

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just go.

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Speaker 4: Fuck yeah, and they get scared.

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Speaker 3: Rory just was like, I was like a whole buddy.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to comfort him while still watching the game.

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Speaker 1: It was a happy their kids soft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Finn was like, yeah, America.

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Speaker 1: Good dude, Rory. He thinks he's this big, bad boy,

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but the minute you can confront him, you just get

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in his face. Cries like that little baby is that's true.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 2: The trench broom was such a devastating weapon that the

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Germans feared so much, allegedly that they literally complained that

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it was a war crime.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the saying goes, it's not a war crime

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if it's the first time. And so America was like,

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what are you gonna do about.

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Speaker 2: It, dude, don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness. Yeah,

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you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the model, it's not written down, it's not

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against the rules.

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Speaker 2: And you know what's ironic, about this. This wasn't in my notes,

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but I read it and i'll I'll say it now.

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Is earlier at the nineteen oh seven convention in the

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hag This is sort of the pre Geneva Convention. Geneva Convention,

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the same way the League Nations was the pre un

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U n At the nineteen oh seven convention, the Americans

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wanted to put in rules about certain types of AMMO

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and stuff like that that would have potentially included the

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the AMMO they were using in the Winchester and the

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Germans are like, no, you bitches, fuck you, that's fun,

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my dick. So the Model eighteen ninety seven. This is

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where your expertise comes in. I don't know how much you

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know about shotguns, but you know more than us. Uh God.

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It's an external hammer shotgun lacking a quote unquote trigger

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disconnector basically, like you said, it's a slam fire. You

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hold the trigger down and you just pump to your

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heart's content.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, that's exactly how it works. Now you gotta,

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you know, pull the trigger that releases your action to

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to pump it. Once you go forward, you can pull

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the trigger again. These slam fires, it's just you hold

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the trigger down and as you pump it forward, it

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just goes off once you chamber that new round. I

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guess the firing pin is just forward. Maybe that could

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be part of it too. When you slam that action

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for the firing pin just hits that round and goes

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to work.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's really cool, and they don't make them anymore.

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They don't make slam fires. You might be able to

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find like a cheap shotgun. I can't accident it's even legal, right.

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It might be something where you needed like a level

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three tax stamp, similar to like a fully auto thing. Yeah,

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you can get those old Winchester ninety seven's that still

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do slam fire. They're very expensive, but you might need

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a special permit for that, just like a suppressor or

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things like.

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Speaker 2: That, because it it is only I guess technically semi automatic, right, Yeah,

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would be the way to describe it. I suppose I

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have to do an action every time to fire it still.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But now the question everyone's probably wondering has on

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their mind right now, were there more rounds pumped in

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the trenches by this gun or by the soldiers themselves

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just releasing some rounds?

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Speaker 2: I gotta think, actually, you know, how could you possibly

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jerk off on a trench?

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Speaker 4: Could you even be so easy? We did it in

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porta potties all the time.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's a hundred times. But how many

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how many bodies were being eaten by rats?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: What was the nearest body being eaten by rats to

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you jerking off when you were overseas?

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Speaker 3: None? But also we did not even overseas.

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Speaker 4: Just we'd be in Texas training and I'm gonna go

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rubing off in the woods real quick, like your boys

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are like kind of all around you and leave me

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alone and they know what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Not to mention this is a war where you just

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kind of like sad a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're there for it, to guess for a

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week and you haven't jacked off once, you're going to

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want to. Yeah, I suppose eventually, like you just like

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need to, especially if there is if there's like a

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German in my trench and I'm like, I'm gonna nut

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in his face, like because he's dead.

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Speaker 3: That might be a thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh German chizrag right, German com dumpstair be kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: Somebody in World War One definitely got jacked off.

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Speaker 2: On a dead body, without question, got jerked off.

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Speaker 4: On, I would say so, And yeah, war's crazy. It

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does crazy things to people. So I wouldn't put it

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past anyone to do that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it makes total sense.

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Speaker 4: Then you get home and you're like, fuck, I really

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did that.

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Speaker 3: You got some nightmares maybe, but then you could over it.

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Speaker 2: That's what alcohols were, Yeah, exactly. That was medicine back then. Yeah,

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like legally, so, yeah, you just drink a lot and

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you're fine. So the Scientific American wrote about the Winchester

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at the time. When fired, the new American gun sprays

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the contents of each shell over an area measuring nine

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feet horror only, it's about a nine feet spray and

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three feet vertically, which means you can't miss. Yep, if

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you're pretty close to someone, you can't miss. It's almost

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it says, it's almost impossible not to hit a large

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number of enemy infant infantrymen coming in the attack of

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a typical mass formation of Germans.

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Speaker 1: Now was it required for them to go bird shot? Buckshot?

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Bird shot? Bookshot?

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Speaker 3: That'd be really funny.

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Speaker 2: So the buck shot was double oh buck shot. Yeah,

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so it was point a point three three point three

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three inches across the biggest. It's the biggest buck.

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Speaker 4: Shot, I think, yeah, yeah, double lot buck and it's

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probably got nine pellets that I am not the the

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shotgun guy. I have a couple of shotguns used for

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like dove hunting and things like that. Right, use a

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bird shot for the most part.

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Speaker 3: Which you can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume a buck shot would just evaporate the bird, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: But usually buckshot has like right around nine pellets in

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there or BB's whatever you want to call it. And

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that's and they're big that that'll kill you. One one

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of them in the right spot will still kill you.

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A couple in your arm will take it off. Also

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depends on distance and things like that. But and in

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a trench, the further you are away, the larger the

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spread is too, right, And that's the cool thing about

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the trench warfare with the shotgun is they would bayonet

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someone and then just slam fire through them to kill

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the friends behind.

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Speaker 3: You have a human.

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Speaker 4: Shield, fucking noth and like a couple of feet, that

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spread is a couple inches. It's not going right nine

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feet by three feet or whatever it's gonna be. And

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so you're just putting rounds through this trench, through a

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dude's body at very close range, putting fist sized holes

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and some on and then and it's a hole, right,

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it's a fist sized hole. When it exits, you know,

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it bounces off bones and organs and all kinds of stuff.

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So the exit wound is a basketball check that point,

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and you're seeing your friends in front of you getting.

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Speaker 3: Shot like that.

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Speaker 1: They say the shotgun is the best for home defense

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because not only are you going to get the intruder

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right in front of you, but your wife and kids

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in the corn. It might catch them too, so you

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can start a new life.

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Speaker 2: I agree it just it gives you options.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I will say to the people who say

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shotgun is the best for home defense because it doesn't

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overpenetrate your walls to your neighbor's house, it's fake.

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Speaker 3: Drywall is very thin.

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Speaker 4: Any bullet or any shotgun around will go through the

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dry wall as well. But it is still pretty good

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because you don't have to be like for your wife,

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give them a shotgun.

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Speaker 3: You don't got to aim as much. You'll be all right.

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Speaker 1: Now we've discussed this in previous episodes, but if your

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walls are made of water. Though, you're good, good to go.

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The minute it hits water, it's done. Everyone should have

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water walls, a layer of water to protect your neighbors. Yeah, exactly,

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it's probably good. For instance, should be a water world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, around little sea world. Yeah, just a whole.

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Speaker 4: That's so funny. Your whole house is an aquarium essentially,

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that'd be so cool.

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Speaker 2: And then obviously you sleep on a waterbed and it's yep,

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just a nice little light. They said the penetrating power

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of the buckshot. Uh, the hail of lead went through

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a two inch plank with plenty of energy left for

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further damage at one hundred and fifty yards from the muzzle.

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Speaker 4: Uh, probably not, you don't think so, No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's their fifty yards pretty far.

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Speaker 2: I know that's what I that was, and that's from

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the scientific American but fair enough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hey, if they proved that one round did that,

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I guess it's true. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, as you said, you could also put a

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bayonet on it. And World War One bayonets were fucking

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huge swords.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, so cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have like a and also, you know, Americans,

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I think we're taller than most Europeans at the time too,

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So you have like a taller person with the sword

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coming at you, and your friend just got evaporated, and

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you're like, dude, what is that thing.

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Speaker 1: As a hole in the stomach?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is essentially the It sounds to me

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like it's basically the equivalent of like you have a

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personal cannon with grape shot in it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exact, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like then the old Napoleon Civil War, like you see,

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like they change out the AMMO long range in the

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direct artillery cannons is a ball or maybe an exploding

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shell depending on the era, but shorter range, they put

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in grape shot. Napoleon famously said, give them a whiff

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a grape shot, but he was shooting at civilians.

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Speaker 3: Either way.

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Speaker 2: So this thing, as you can imagine, fucked people up

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so much so that on the nineteenth of September nineteen eighteen,

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the German government issued a diplomatic protest against the American

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use of shotguns, saying that the shotgun was prohibited by

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the laws of war. The Germans said it is especially

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forbidden to employ arms, projections or materials calculated to cause

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unnecessary suffering.

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Speaker 3: That's wild.

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Speaker 4: So I guess if you do get shot, I mean, well,

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unnecessarily suffering is getting shot in any appenage that doesn't

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kill you no matter what.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's what the yeah like,

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it's like.

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Speaker 3: A shot on the arm by a rifle. I'm like, ow, yeah,

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it's gonna hurt.

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00:20:54,279 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna suffer if you get the ifect my arm

476
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,480
gets blown out by a shotgun, I'm still suffering.

477
00:20:58,599 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 2: I guess maybe you suffer more like it's an immediate

478
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,559
arm loss, like.

479
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 3: Which I guess.

480
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 2: The Germans also said if they caught any Americans, captured

481
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,400
any Americans with the shotgun or even shotgun shells on them, uh,

482
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,319
they would be executed immediately. The German the quote was

483
00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:20,720
the German government protests against the use of shotguns by

484
00:21:20,759 --> 00:21:23,319
the American Army and calls attention to the fact that,

485
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,720
according to the law of war, every prisoner of war

486
00:21:26,839 --> 00:21:28,960
found to have in his possession such guns or ammunition

487
00:21:29,079 --> 00:21:32,200
belonging there too, forfeits his life.

488
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,039
Speaker 4: That's wild because also at the time, well the time,

489
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,119
I couldn't tell you, but I'd imagine nowadays if there

490
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,400
was something so lethal as a shotgun i'd have if

491
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,200
I was a squadalor I'd have my whole squad at

492
00:21:44,279 --> 00:21:48,200
least carry shells, you know, yeah, just like, hey, I'm out,

493
00:21:48,279 --> 00:21:50,440
Like I just killed a fuck ton of dudes and

494
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,359
then my buddy has here's five more shells to refill

495
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:53,720
your two.

496
00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:57,319
Speaker 3: But then i'd have everyone have a shell back then who.

497
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 4: Knows if they did or not, but yeah, to execute

498
00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:02,400
anyone they capture with shells is crazy.

499
00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 2: Because I mean, you know you want that guy like

500
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,920
that guy is probably if cause it's not every everyone

501
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,880
in the unit doesn't have a shotgun. Yeah, exactly, so

502
00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:12,599
you want that guy, or I guess if you can

503
00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:14,119
trade you want to trade off if that guy's like

504
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,720
I'm a little trumped out, like whoever has the shotgun

505
00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:18,440
is kind of taking point down the trend.

506
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 4: Or if he dies and you pick up his shotgun,

507
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,839
you want to have rounds instead of grabbing it off

508
00:22:21,839 --> 00:22:23,680
of him, right, right, right? Even if I wasn't a

509
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,559
shotgunner back then, I would have shells with me just

510
00:22:26,599 --> 00:22:28,759
in case I needed to grab that gun because my

511
00:22:28,839 --> 00:22:32,440
bolt action didn't work. And oh cool, a perfectly good shotgun. Right,

512
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,480
I'm in close quarters. I don't want to have a

513
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,000
bolt action.

514
00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 2: You just hopped into a trench. Yeah, I would much

515
00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:39,920
rather have this than like a yeah Springfield bolt action exactly.

516
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: The crowds are just making things up as they go.

517
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,400
They started the war anyway, so they definitely are.

518
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,319
Speaker 2: Making things up as they go, and they used a

519
00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:51,079
I mean they were pretty like we like to say,

520
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,839
like everyone was kind of a bad guy in World

521
00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:53,880
War One, but like he.

522
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,279
Speaker 1: Was definitely the biggest dick of a cousin.

523
00:22:56,599 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really obscures the fact that the Germans were

524
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,720
still probably the bigger assholes. Yes, but it's just like

525
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,240
everyone was an asshole.

526
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,759
Speaker 1: He was the one that was starting all the problems.

527
00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:10,119
All the other cousins kind of came together if he

528
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,839
was just like civil and didn't want to play these

529
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,160
like games of chicken with human lives, imperial chess.

530
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,519
Speaker 3: Type of thing.

531
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was the Germans who were the angriest

532
00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:23,279
about nothing angry.

533
00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: He also survived right, like he went on and just

534
00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:27,319
lived a normal life after World War One.

535
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually died early into World War two, just

536
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,319
of old age or whatever. But yes, he was deposed

537
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,079
and went to live in like Denmarkers.

538
00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: And he's like shit talking Hitler.

539
00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:42,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did actually send Hitler congratulatory note when he

540
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:42,960
conquered France.

541
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: It's interesting. Yeah, and Hitler was like, fuck, didn't think

542
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,000
they were like boys.

543
00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: They weren't.

544
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,839
Speaker 2: Hitler and all the German high command, who were like

545
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,119
kind of low level World War One veterans like fuck.

546
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,799
Speaker 1: Diasas Wilhelm, right, yeah, Wilhelm.

547
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:04,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. So they sent the US this you know, warning,

548
00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:08,160
and the US was like, if we find out that

549
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,319
you they're like, hey, fuck.

550
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: You, this is legal.

551
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,759
Speaker 2: And b if we find out that you executed one

552
00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:17,319
single one of our guys for simply having a shotgun

553
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,920
or whatever, we will do something back horrible to any

554
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,279
prisoners you have, Like we will fuck your prisoners up.

555
00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:25,759
Speaker 3: Yep.

556
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: Just so you know, the Judge Advocate General of the Army,

557
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,480
Robert Lansing, uh and I guess Secretary say, Robert Lansing,

558
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,720
I'm sorry, you know, judge avacate general was a Samuel

559
00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:46,559
t Ansel. He essentially was like, we're using the shotgun.

560
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,599
Speaker 3: Because it kills people. Yeah, and this is a.

561
00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 2: War, so we're gonna keep killing you.

562
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: You guys are like gassing us. Yeah, I don't think

563
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,720
this is unfair. They're like, we like, do you know

564
00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:01,880
what happen? You know where we are, there's by a

565
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,680
warfare happening. We're using a gun.

566
00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like fucking deal with it. And they did point

567
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,559
out they were like, we tried to make this illegal.

568
00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:11,240
You didn't want it.

569
00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:15,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'd rather go out shotgun than mustard gas.

570
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,079
Speaker 2: It like melts off your skin and the shit fucks

571
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,599
up your I mean it's bad.

572
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,559
Speaker 1: Well, you'll be able to grow this luscious beard.

573
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 4: Most people still survived that, and so you're just sick

574
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,920
and in pain. But I don't think it was that

575
00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:30,079
lethal right as far as gas goes.

576
00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:32,599
Speaker 2: I don't know how like maybe lethal it.

577
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: Was eventually, I think it just became annoying, Like.

578
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 2: No, it's still fucked you out. Here's a this is

579
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,759
a man who is mustard gased.

580
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: It kills you.

581
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: He looks like he's having a good time.

582
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: Even if you survive, it kills you. I mean you

583
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:50,079
don't you're life the rest absolutely yeaheah, it's it's it's tenures. Yeah,

584
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,279
that's still good. You're getting no pussy if you get

585
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,480
mustard gased. Yeah, this guy's face melted, you're a ghoul. Yeah, uh,

586
00:25:58,599 --> 00:25:59,359
it's not good.

587
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,759
Speaker 2: So like, oh yeah, I guess it's not killing them,

588
00:26:01,759 --> 00:26:05,480
but it is still causing undue suffering. But there was

589
00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:13,119
another reason apparently the Germans wanted to put this out

590
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,880
there that the Americans were, why the Americans were using shotguns,

591
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,200
and why they thought it was bad.

592
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 3: It was a PR move twofold pr move.

593
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: First off, they wanted to seem morally superior to the

594
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,279
Americans who were using these horrible weapons while everyone else

595
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:34,720
was just using standard issue chlorine gas and stuff, I guess,

596
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,279
like mustard gas, whatever the fuck.

597
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:40,799
Speaker 1: Trying to take the moral high ground, like it's a

598
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,680
UFC fight. He's on gas, We're not on gas. He's

599
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,119
on steroids. We're not on steroids. Right, it's a fight.

600
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 2: And they also wanted to portray Americans as barbarians basically,

601
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,960
as others, like they weren't fighting like like good civilized.

602
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: Europhan in the fields of battle.

603
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,319
Speaker 2: So they wanted to other us to the French and

604
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,039
British as well. And I'll get to that in a second.

605
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,759
But firstly, they wanted to scare the shit out of

606
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:15,680
their own people and reaffirm the righteous righteousness of their cause.

607
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:23,680
Several German newspapers wrote scathing propaganda editorials about our barbarous

608
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,599
Western ways and when I say western, I mean like

609
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,759
cowboy ways. The Cologne Gazette wrote that Tommy hawks is in,

610
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,720
tomahawks and scalping knives would soon make their appearance on

611
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:39,839
the American front. Americans are not honorable warriors, so they

612
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,920
thought we were gonna go like Native American on them.

613
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: That would be pretty cool for us. Yeah, yeah, yeah

614
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,279
for that.

615
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: But they were just like, dude, they're about to fucking

616
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:52,559
start scalping people. You're gonna get an axe to the face.

617
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,559
Get ready. The war's night like it is. Fighting me

618
00:27:57,599 --> 00:27:59,759
that in nineteen eighteen, they're like, yeah, well, guess what.

619
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:02,640
This war is not gonna be so fun anymore now

620
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,680
that the Americans are in it. You thought it was

621
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,480
bad before.

622
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,559
Speaker 4: We have trench clubs. They have trench axes and tomahawks.

623
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 3: That's not right.

624
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: Trench cannons yeah, apparently full of grape shots. Another newspaper

625
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,519
wrote the barbarous shotguns have not been served out because

626
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:25,319
they are likely to be effective, but because the ill

627
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,720
trained Americans cannot use rifles and are badly supplied with

628
00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:33,359
machine guns. So we're just this poor dog shit country,

629
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,920
too stupid and dishonorable to hit a target with a rifle.

630
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,319
So we're just a bunch of like mouth breathers running

631
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:44,359
around with big fucking hand cannons. We look and then

632
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:47,240
you know, scalping what's left of your head.

633
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,119
Speaker 1: It's almost bad shots.

634
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: Well, it's crazy to me that these shotguns were so

635
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:56,400
effective because you can only have six rounds in the gun,

636
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,400
so once you fire off six, you're not you load it.

637
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,440
You're probably gonna go to your pistol, which is also

638
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:05,079
terrifyingcause we had the nineteen elevens which were like the

639
00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:07,359
best pistol there's Paul, those forty five caliber or say thing,

640
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,160
but not only have seven shots I guess eight if

641
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,039
you have one in the chamber.

642
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: But you don't have a whole lot of ammo in

643
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,079
these things.

644
00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:15,079
Speaker 4: So for them to be so terrified, or for these

645
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:18,599
to be so effective with the round capacity that they

646
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,400
have is wild. Well, I mean, I assume because it's

647
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,200
it's six shots and then you're done, like that's it.

648
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,279
Speaker 3: You got to reload and shotgun at a time. Not easy.

649
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,559
Speaker 2: I assume it's like you pop it. You jump into

650
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:31,000
the trench, slam, lam, lam, slam as much, you know,

651
00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:33,400
maybe like you know, you're not firing off all six

652
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640
at once, maybe it's like two or three. Then you

653
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,960
move a little bit. Yeah, neither two or three, and

654
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,319
then your boys come up ahead of you and kind

655
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:40,920
of lock it down.

656
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah you reload, Yeah exactly. That would be my good

657
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,200
tactic actually, yeah, pretended what you would do?

658
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:48,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, see Opening in the Dark, Knight at the bank

659
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,319
and he's like he's out right.

660
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, where'd you learn to count?

661
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 4: I love when movies round count because like I wouldn't know,

662
00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:58,359
do you what gun is that?

663
00:29:58,359 --> 00:29:59,119
Speaker 3: That's my favorite.

664
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:02,599
Speaker 4: Also, did hen loaded to the actual capacity of the magazine?

665
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,960
Like he might have just put three in there for

666
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,519
some reason?

667
00:30:04,599 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's in a hurry, you know.

668
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 4: And also like most handguns these days, like a full

669
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,000
size has seventeen rounds in the magazine. You know your

670
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:15,000
compacts carry for the most part, ten rounds. Okay, that's

671
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,160
a lot of ammo. Yeah to me to be counting

672
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,680
who's shooting with what gun, Like if there's multiple people shooting,

673
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,480
I'm not keeping.

674
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: Tracking, no idea. That's my favorite running bit in archer

675
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,440
is that he always knows the round count. Yeah, Like,

676
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,000
how did you know that? And he's like, because it's

677
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,640
my job. It's like yells at p He's like, I

678
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:32,160
enjoy how like competent he is.

679
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 4: I don't even know my round count and I'm the

680
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,680
one shooting the gun. Like for the most part, I'm

681
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,519
like decent with it. Yeah, but no, I don't know

682
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:42,720
if I fired sixteen rounds out of my thirty round magazine.

683
00:30:42,359 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: Or I like that.

684
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,079
Speaker 2: This definitely exists, but I feel like it should exist

685
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,160
more for in the military. Maybe is that sweet ass

686
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,839
counter on the side of the gun and aliens? Yeah,

687
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,359
you know what I mean, Like it literally just took

688
00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:58,680
on the pulse rifles and aliens like it literally just

689
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,359
they have it's a ninety nine round capacity and they

690
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,200
just fire it, you know. But there's like a little

691
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,400
little like what do you call it, like alarm clock

692
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,759
looking counter because it's the.

693
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:12,039
Speaker 4: Eighties, someone made that for the clock. Actually, oh really

694
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,599
so like the back plate because there's no hammer on those.

695
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:16,759
It's just like a little striker pin or striker plate.

696
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:18,799
But someone made that like a couple of years ago.

697
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,839
I saw it at Chatcho and it had a round

698
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:26,799
count thing. But also it only counted based on a

699
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:29,359
full magazine. So if you like did if you're at

700
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:31,319
the range training and each have like five rounds in

701
00:31:31,319 --> 00:31:35,240
the mag it'll assume you had the full seventeen in there. Okay,

702
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:37,599
because I don't know how it works. There's no good

703
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:39,799
way for it to like, there's no way possible for

704
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:41,799
it to know how many you put in the magazine.

705
00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:44,319
It just assumed you put in the seventeen, right, So

706
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,319
it worked, and you still have to do the math.

707
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,480
Expect I'll put five in, yeah, and then when you

708
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,359
get to twelve, you're like, cool, that's about yeah exactly.

709
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: I only know my round count in my monthly games

710
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,119
of Russian Roulette.

711
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: How many more times do you have and until it's

712
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,680
the time for the bolt to drive?

713
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:04,359
Speaker 1: Oh, it depends how many times I get in deep

714
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,759
with the Philippine people that I gamble with.

715
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,519
Speaker 4: Oh okay, So it's not just the same gun every month.

716
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:13,599
You just fire once and you put it back down.

717
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,680
You you cycle a cylinder every.

718
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: O I load the gun.

719
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:20,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I rigged the game, gotcha, I'm not dying.

720
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: Uh, you game with Filipinos now, Yeah, it's devolved quite

721
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:27,720
a bit.

722
00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:30,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my darkest day.

723
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:32,599
Speaker 4: So you haven't gotten into cockfighting with the Philippines. They're

724
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,200
so into that, it's awesome. We don't do cockfighting.

725
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:35,519
Speaker 3: We do.

726
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: We fight with little little lizards.

727
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: Oh cool beard of dragon fighting. Do you guys put

728
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,559
blades on their hands too, it's razor blades.

729
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

730
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes a little strap kind of like a like a

731
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,240
knife to his back.

732
00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: Do you give them like a little barbed necklace with

733
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,599
razor blades on so if they bite their neck they actually.

734
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, essentially, yes, that's the that's the word of that.

735
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: One thing is essentially BattleBots with iguanas sick.

736
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,519
Speaker 3: I'll go to that.

737
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,559
Speaker 1: Lizards don't have souls, they're cold blooded.

738
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,079
Speaker 3: Yeah. Nothing there.

739
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: Another reason the Germans wanted to portray the Americans this

740
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:21,839
way and thought the shotgun might be a useful avenue

741
00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:26,559
to do that, was they wanted the Americans to maybe

742
00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:30,880
have less autonomy the British and French. When the Americans

743
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,759
got here got to Europe, We're like, perfect, you're under

744
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:37,960
our command and we'll start plugging you into the lines

745
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,039
and general pershing.

746
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: And the Americans were.

747
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: Like fuck that, Like you show us where you need

748
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:46,319
us or you know where in line should we go.

749
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,519
We're in command of our own Like, we're not gonna

750
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,039
just give you what do you think this is. We're

751
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:54,680
just gonna give you soldiers for you to fucking command.

752
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:58,799
Are you fucking kidding? Like, I'm sure that's how it worked.

753
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:01,599
In fact, I'm positive that's how it worked for all

754
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,359
the English and French colonial troops that had to show up,

755
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:11,840
all the fucking bastard Indians and Algerians and shit that

756
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,639
had to just like pop into a trench because they

757
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,280
got conquered one hundred two years earlier. Yep, they're like, hey,

758
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,559
guess what, asshole, since your grandpa couldn't defend your homeland,

759
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:21,960
you got to go into a trench in a place

760
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,320
you never fucking heard of, Like we just have.

761
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 3: To go to Hell.

762
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: You have to go to Hell.

763
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 3: Yep.

764
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then you could send in like snake charmers.

765
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:31,400
They could bring their cobras.

766
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: Releasing cobras would have actually been hilarious.

767
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,079
Speaker 3: That'd been so cool.

768
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 4: But wait, but actually that's that's where the snake charmber

769
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,159
comes in. So that cobra doesn't attack the wrong person.

770
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:45,599
Speaker 1: So he doesn't have a gun he only has a flute.

771
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't shoot the flute guy. I was like shooting

772
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,119
the drummer boy in like Civil War. I got he's

773
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:53,119
laying some.

774
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,199
Speaker 1: Cool Yeah, but if you knew the flute guy had cobras,

775
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,599
you're taking the make them.

776
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,679
Speaker 4: Eventually, he's the number one target once you've learned he's

777
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,840
the one controlling the snake.

778
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: But you know those the planes didn't fly that high

779
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:05,480
back then, they could have dropped cobras.

780
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, why not.

781
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:12,639
Speaker 1: That was the Indian regiment that's really not talked about it.

782
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: Also, scorpions just like drop every manner of horrible bug

783
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,679
you can. Obviously, you got to do it in the summer.

784
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,320
It's not gonna work in December. Yeah, but like a

785
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,280
nice June day sunny, everyone's a little happy.

786
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: Do scorpions land on their feet though, they'll be fine.

787
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 4: Imagine so they gonna use their tail to be aerodynamic

788
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:33,400
and control the flow of travel.

789
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:35,159
Speaker 1: Rain and scorpions would just be terrifying.

790
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'm done, Mount, I'm done, this is over.

791
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

792
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: Now, I suppose that becomes a little problematic when you

793
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,239
eventually take that trench.

794
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: But that's what.

795
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,559
Speaker 1: Flanthrowers are for take care of the vermin.

796
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 4: Well, when you get bored and you're like, oh cool,

797
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,519
scorpion versus rat battle, Oh hell you put you put

798
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:55,960
them in a box and just see what happens.

799
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:57,119
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah? Yeah.

800
00:35:57,199 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: Do you were you deployed in the wreck?

801
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: No? No, were you in Afghanistan? Yeah? Yeah? Okay.

802
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,599
Speaker 2: Were there scorpions in Afghanistan? I feel like it's a

803
00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:06,360
little mountainous.

804
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,119
Speaker 3: I never saw if they were, I didn't see them. Yeah.

805
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,159
It also kind of.

806
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 4: Winter time for the most part when I was there.

807
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,079
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, if they were there, they were more of

808
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:15,760
the giant fucking bugs.

809
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 2: The camel spiders came.

810
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 3: Oh, camel spiders are cool.

811
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 4: Uh if you like they have such a strong exoskeleton

812
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:24,760
that when you step on them, you have to really

813
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:27,239
force your weight down after you step on them to

814
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,480
crush them. And they're trying to find shade, and so

815
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:34,639
they'll just chase your shadow to find shade and yah,

816
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,480
they're only trying to attack you, but they're hot, so

817
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:39,679
they want to find shadows and shade, so they chase

818
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:42,159
your shadow, but you run away from it and you're like,

819
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:44,119
oh god, yeah, but to kill one you have to

820
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:46,280
step on it. I mean it depends on the size obviously,

821
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,159
and then really crunched down on them. I remember they

822
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:52,880
got in your boots and your sleeping bags and all

823
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,440
that kind of stuff.

824
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember there being like.

825
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,559
Speaker 2: Urban legends about that, Like when I was in college

826
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:03,199
and we were had first gotten into Iraq about like, dude, yeah,

827
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,119
this guy, I know, he fucking served in Iraq and

828
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:08,119
he like woke up in the middle of the night

829
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:10,360
and looked over and there was a camel spider just

830
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,760
eating his bunk mate's face.

831
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think so. I don't think that happened either.

832
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,519
Speaker 2: But at the time I was like, good lord, just

833
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:19,199
nuke that country, are you kidding me?

834
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:20,119
Speaker 3: I think they were.

835
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 4: I think they were kind of venomous, but it just

836
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,320
kind of ate away at your skin a little bit.

837
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,440
It wasn't like you're getting right, you gotta get you know,

838
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,880
go to the hospital and get some anti biotics or

839
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,039
anti venom whatever.

840
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: But they just kind of eroded your skin a little bit.

841
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:36,480
It was like, God damn it. Yeah, they weren't bad.

842
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: I don't think they were just scary looking, terrifying. Yeah, yeah,

843
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:48,119
that makes sense. So to make sure that a the

844
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Germans didn't know quite what the gun looked like, and

845
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:53,039
B because we weren't the only ones using shotguns. We

846
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:56,119
were just the only one using this bad ass motherfucker shotgun. Yeah,

847
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,400
and B to make sure that the French and British

848
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,239
didn't start to I guess buy this bullshit. I guess

849
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,199
the Americans basically censored the use of the gun or

850
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,559
like what the gun looked like.

851
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: Throughout the whole war. Oh smart.

852
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: They tried their best anyway. I don't know, not necessarily

853
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,639
that they succeeded.

854
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: But Wilson was pretty good at controlling the media.

855
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:23,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh, And I guess I guess that. I

856
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:25,519
don't know that they controlled the American media that well,

857
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:27,000
because we'll get to that in a little bit, But

858
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,400
I guess they they really kept a lid on on

859
00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:30,280
exactly what.

860
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: This gun was.

861
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: And by the way, the Judge Advocate General ansel I

862
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,800
forgot this earlier. He he when responding to the Germans,

863
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,400
he was like, he literally was like, you use chlorine gas, flamethrowers,

864
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,119
And then I didn't realize this one. He was like,

865
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,679
you use fucking sawtooth bayonets. Yeah, and you're gonna whine

866
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,320
about a fucking shotgun.

867
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: What it happens, Wilson's gonna infringe upon American citizens' rights. Dude,

868
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,920
fuck the Germans, Like.

869
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I'll do it he wants. Yeah, but it

870
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,159
is funny to be like, what what the only use

871
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:08,639
of a saw tooth bayonet is to cause undue suffering,

872
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:12,960
Like a normal stab is more than enough. Yeah, Like

873
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:19,000
you are just trying to literally eviscerate someone with the

874
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:20,039
saw tooth bayonet.

875
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if they do survive it, the sewing process

876
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,320
is extremely difficult, so you're probably gonna dynam matter what.

877
00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:29,559
Speaker 2: It's like a guaranteed like internal bleedout.

878
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:30,119
Speaker 3: Yeah.

879
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,119
Speaker 1: Do you know why they had the little point on

880
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:35,920
their helmets. I do, I told you, And so they

881
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,360
couldn't have this sword come directly down on their skull.

882
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:43,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was an anti so the German needle helmet

883
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:45,519
whatever the fuck it was called, it was basically an

884
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:46,599
anti cavalry helmet.

885
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,079
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that the infantry had because.

886
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,599
Speaker 1: It would like glance you on the side.

887
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh okay, we know a little bit about glancing

888
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:59,360
on the side of helmets and swords.

889
00:39:57,199 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: On this set, were you the one that swung the sword.

890
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,079
Speaker 4: No, I think that was the the Lady Uncle Laser broud.

891
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: Okay, and it was a dude in the helmet. Yeah,

892
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:07,840
which there's.

893
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,679
Speaker 1: Still blood on the helmet. It's on a skeleton right now.

894
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why they wore arming caps under their steel

895
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,559
helmets because the steel will still dig into your face.

896
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,599
Speaker 2: Right the metal hitting your fresh skin is still metal.

897
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

898
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:24,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need something else under there.

899
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:27,159
Speaker 4: And that's we're at the We're at the ren Fair.

900
00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:28,880
That's what I was talking about, was the ren Fair.

901
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: Bush just put his helmet on and uh, I think

902
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,679
Gordon and other people took turns just whack him in

903
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:37,599
the head with the real sword.

904
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: It dented the helmet.

905
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: It was everyone was scared because for some reason, we

906
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,280
all had our shirts off and not like a shirt

907
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,559
would help it. But if you swung hard enough and

908
00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:50,760
it glanced off the helmet and hit their shoulder, it's

909
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,800
going in and listen.

910
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,679
Speaker 1: We have the video, so I'll just place it right

911
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,719
here so you can watch and talked over it on YouTube.

912
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,119
So YouTube dot com slash history. You can see Boush

913
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:02,440
getting hit in the head.

914
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: With another frequent guest of the show was on mushrooms

915
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,719
two at the time, probably it was.

916
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,679
Speaker 4: It was scary, but I was you can hear me

917
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,880
laughing my ass off in the background.

918
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 3: Dude, what a fucking lunatic. Yeah.

919
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: I saw some of that video and booh, was like,

920
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,679
I'm scared, all right, I don't want to do it anymore.

921
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,039
Speaker 4: Looking back at it sober, they were pretty decent swings.

922
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:27,360
I thought they were very light taps, like no those

923
00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:30,159
like I said, if they glanced off at the wrong angle,

924
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:31,480
it would have went in their shoulder.

925
00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:34,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, because they were coming down. That's it,

926
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:36,360
because I think Dan's doing it sideways, which is the

927
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,000
only way to do Yeah, because if it goes down, maybe.

928
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: Just don't do that. Guys, if you're listening right, don't

929
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,079
swing swords at your friends.

930
00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:48,039
Speaker 1: It was pretty funny.

931
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:51,079
Speaker 4: And then the one guy who was throwing the sword

932
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,400
in the ground and I'm more in flip flops like

933
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,760
as I always do. And at one point the sword

934
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,239
fell over a couple inches like from my toes, and

935
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,360
I got that was scary. Like, let's just so I

936
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,079
just like moved my chair a little bit so the

937
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:03,800
sword wouldn't fall on my feet.

938
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, yeah, done it. Was a great nipe a

939
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:09,599
couple of times. Oh he was close.

940
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: I like, by the way that if you subscribe to

941
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,800
our YouTube you can see the pink lighting on either

942
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,960
side making my cheeks look rosy and flush like. For

943
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,679
a minute, I was like, Man, is this in like

944
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,039
fucking up me up or something?

945
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: Oh, you look like a vent I do I look?

946
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:25,159
Speaker 3: Oh? Man?

947
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,599
Speaker 2: One of the TFM commentars back in the day said,

948
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,960
I looked like Night of Living dummy. What was that

949
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,199
guy's name? Slappy?

950
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and subscribe to see what I'm wearing, which is

951
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,639
always a fun thing.

952
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot to even mention it.

953
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:40,039
Speaker 3: I have a wolf T shirt on too.

954
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: And I'm about to work the docks.

955
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, we all look great today. It's always fun.

956
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: So let's get to how this thing performed in combat

957
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,480
very well when it was used at the Battle of

958
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:03,280
bellw Wood, belly Wood the trench shotgun and basically allowed

959
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,840
the US troops to just mow down the advancing Germans.

960
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,480
A captain in an American engineering company who was there

961
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,519
told his hometown newspaper the shotgun volley was new to

962
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:18,760
them than being the Germans. Every time a gun fired,

963
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,559
three or four Germans would go down. The more the

964
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:25,440
surprise gripped them, the closer they would huddle together.

965
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:27,639
Speaker 3: Whoa, and the.

966
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: Deadlier the fire had become. So the German the gun

967
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,840
scared the shit out of the Germans, and they were

968
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,199
like oh, and they went to hug their friends. And

969
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,039
then that made it easier for the guns to literally

970
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:40,239
rip holes in them.

971
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, shotguns especially, they spread, They spread fast. So the

972
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:49,239
further you are actually the better, which is like I

973
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,360
aess contradictory. They do spread, But also don't be right

974
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,239
next to your friend. And also, and when you think

975
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,320
about that, grenades are a thing. And if you're right

976
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,320
by your boy, artillery, Ye, same thing. A grenade or artillery.

977
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:05,159
If there's three of you guys, boom, you're dead. A

978
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:08,800
machine gun, same exact thing. One burst could kill two

979
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,039
to three instead of just one person. If you're all

980
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:15,119
spread out, they have to transition from targets further, giving

981
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:15,800
you a better chance.

982
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you know your toast, don't you want

983
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,920
to cuddle your boy before you die.

984
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,079
Speaker 3: That's the best way to die. Yeah, do you ever

985
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:24,400
cuddle one of your boys? In Afghanistan? No, we were pretty,

986
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:26,280
We had beds, we were pretty.

987
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: Chilly, like in the field, you'd never were like, hey.

988
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: No, the only thing I've come close to actually I have.

989
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,920
There was one time. This was in Korea, but it

990
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,119
was fourteen degrees outside and our whole platoon was sleeping

991
00:44:38,159 --> 00:44:41,159
inside the trucks and we went on like a nighttime mission.

992
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,519
So when we came back, all the trucks were full,

993
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,639
which means we couldn't get to our sleeping bags that

994
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:49,079
we kept inside to keep them warm. Yeah, so me

995
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:52,719
and him shared one blanket one night and that really sucked.

996
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,320
But besides that, as far as the closest cuddling I've

997
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:56,920
done was.

998
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: And it was cold, so we took our clothes.

999
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.

1000
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: That was I was on like firewatch, like you know whatever.

1001
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,440
I was just like awake where everyone was sleeping.

1002
00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:08,119
Speaker 3: And you were not in a combat zone.

1003
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, And one of my buddies he comes to me,

1004
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,239
He's like, Lopez, I'm too cold, but I really wanted

1005
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,920
a dip, and I was like, I got you. So

1006
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,719
I put a dip in his mouth as he was

1007
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,800
laying down, because you didn't want to get up a

1008
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,199
sleeping bag, and that was like a weird dude moment. Yeah,

1009
00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:26,880
I've never thought I would ever put your something in

1010
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,079
someone's mouth like that.

1011
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: Don't lie, you didn't use your hands, you baby burdens.

1012
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: That's still my dream to have a girl do that

1013
00:45:33,559 --> 00:45:34,880
to me with with dip.

1014
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,679
Speaker 1: But my god, the baby bird dip into your mouth.

1015
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:40,079
Speaker 4: No, with her tongue, just like put it in my mouth. Yeah,

1016
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:41,840
that's always been a dream of mine.

1017
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,559
Speaker 2: Well, if you're one of the three ladies listening to this.

1018
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 4: Show, yeah, start dipping, or just do it once, like,

1019
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:50,960
don't even don't even start. Just I'll give you some

1020
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,039
some Southern blend.

1021
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: Maybe a quaint yourself with the taste before.

1022
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't throw up.

1023
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do a little redman mix it with

1024
00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,840
some big.

1025
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: League Yeah that works too. Yeah, that's always a nice touch.

1026
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,519
Speaker 2: Another American officer said, quote in a post War American

1027
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:12,280
Rifleman article, his men had one good chance with the

1028
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,960
shotguns at a German mass assault upon his trench, a

1029
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,760
charge obviously intended to overwhelm the defenders with its solid

1030
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,760
rush of men. So it's just a human wall coming

1031
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,119
right at them. They let them come on, and when

1032
00:46:26,159 --> 00:46:30,880
those shotguns got going. With nine thirty four caliber buckshot

1033
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:31,880
per loads, six.

1034
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,519
Speaker 3: Loads in the gun.

1035
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: Oh man, two hundred men firing the shot So two

1036
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,360
hundred shot.

1037
00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 3: Holy I didn't know they had that many shotguns at

1038
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,360
one time. Yeah, you were.

1039
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: The assaults simply piled up on top of one. Sorry,

1040
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,599
the assault simply piled up on top of one awful

1041
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:56,639
heap of bugs buckshot drilled men. So essentially, what I'm

1042
00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:59,719
picturing there is remember when the bugs attacked the fort.

1043
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and starship troopers yep, and there's a mound.

1044
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I'm seeing.

1045
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 4: Also, if you've seen the show The Pacific, there's a

1046
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:14,119
scene where that Medal of Honor recipient bank blanking on

1047
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:17,039
his name right now. Yeah, yeah, Baslone, he like runs

1048
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:20,599
up and pushes the pile of Japanese soldiers down so

1049
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:22,920
they can have like a better line of fire.

1050
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:25,199
Speaker 1: But before he gets domed.

1051
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was like, this was in Guadalcanal or I

1052
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,760
think it's whatever.

1053
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 3: Two years for you.

1054
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: So, yeah, he wins the Medal of Honor for his

1055
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,119
action Wild Canal, uh, and then goes back gets back

1056
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:37,039
into the Marines. Well, he's in the Marines a whole time,

1057
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,239
but they he becomes kind of a celebrity so they

1058
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,320
have him do like war war bon tours and stuff,

1059
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,480
but he's like, I want to get back into it, lands.

1060
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,599
Speaker 3: On action gets Yeah.

1061
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:51,679
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's the reason why Medal of

1062
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:54,760
Honor recipients are essentially forced to retire now, but he's

1063
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,039
definitely part of that, yeah, because now if you get

1064
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:00,320
the medal, you like, they don't let you go back

1065
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,159
inso like active duty combat type things interesting and he

1066
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,079
might be like the reason for it, or might just

1067
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:07,800
beick a part of the reason. Yeah, I mean, because

1068
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,760
like you had this hero who was literally a celebrity

1069
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,599
at the time, huge select and all of a sudden

1070
00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:13,840
he goes to Ewojima leading a machine gun team and

1071
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,639
I don't know if he got shot or if it

1072
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:16,440
was like artillery.

1073
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,079
Speaker 3: I think it was maybe, But I.

1074
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:21,039
Speaker 2: Know they don't really they don't show him die.

1075
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,119
Speaker 3: They do, yeah do they?

1076
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 4: I thought they just kind of like he runs he

1077
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,719
runs back to like grab a machine gun or like

1078
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,679
ammo or something, and all his way back to his

1079
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,400
men is when he gets clipped, and I think it

1080
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,199
was artillery in the real world. But yeah, either way,

1081
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,360
I only know so much things.

1082
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,239
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1130
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about the shotguns and combat. A Chicago sergeant, undergoing much

1131
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,920
hostile fire to reach a concrete pillbox, made his entrance

1132
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,679
through the stage door of the machine gun nest, bearing

1133
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,159
a sawed off shotgun two buckshot blasts, and the twenty

1134
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:49,519
three performers left on their feet surrendered, so he fired

1135
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:52,079
two shots, wiped out god knows how many people, and

1136
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:54,679
the rest like, I I'm good.

1137
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 4: There's so many crazy stories of World War One people

1138
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,960
surrendering and the odds are like, there's thirty of us

1139
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,320
in one of them. I'm good still.

1140
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: In nineteen eighteen especially, I mean it.

1141
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,599
Speaker 4: Wasn't it's because that same was York. I think it

1142
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:11,519
was Alvin York. Yeah, nineteen eleven, Like he took like

1143
00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:16,639
eighty people hostage or captured him with a nineteen eleven that's.

1144
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 3: Crazy, like this shade to shoot the guy, you know,

1145
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,239
but they're like, now we're good.

1146
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: They won out.

1147
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, also good yeah, good point.

1148
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:25,039
Speaker 2: They want they're gonna get better food. Yeah, in the

1149
00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:27,800
pow camp than they are on their fucking trad Good point.

1150
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,400
The shotguns, Now this is fun and this would be

1151
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,679
a fun game, I guess if you were kind of

1152
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,440
on the front lines and gonna fucking die anyway.

1153
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 3: Probably smoking out of it.

1154
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: Uh no, no, no, they they had two other uses,

1155
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,159
but three other uses. They were really popular for guarding prisoners.

1156
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:52,199
But they were used to uh basically trap shoot German grenades.

1157
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 3: What that's crazy.

1158
00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:59,639
Speaker 2: So the Germans would throw their potato masher grenade uh

1159
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:03,199
and the shotgut. They would just be like, great, blasted

1160
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:03,960
out of the fucking air.

1161
00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:08,039
Speaker 3: That's really cool. I didn't even know that cool. Yeah.

1162
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 2: Literally, yeah, that's fucking sick. I'd be into that.

1163
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 4: And to have the like wherewithal because you can only

1164
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,800
throw a grenade so far. You gotta be pretty damn close.

1165
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,679
And to see that and shoot it that fast is impressive.

1166
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,559
Speaker 2: You just gotta assume if they're assaulting and you don't

1167
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:26,239
have a if it's not like a wave like I

1168
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,239
just described, and they're just kind of crawling or they're

1169
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,079
in a trench or whatever, you're like, hey, they're in

1170
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:33,159
that fucking impact crater up there, watch the skies.

1171
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you know.

1172
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,079
Speaker 2: What I mean, Like we got we got the we

1173
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:38,159
got a rifle straight out and just watched fuck for

1174
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,039
fucking grenades.

1175
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,119
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh.

1176
00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:43,039
Speaker 2: They were also used to kill German carrier pigeons.

1177
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 3: That makes sense too, Yeah, dub hunting action, damn dude.

1178
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 4: I wonder if they like swapped in bird shot once

1179
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,719
they started realizing they were using pigeons, they go, hey,

1180
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,679
it's easier if we use bird shots. I wonder if

1181
00:53:55,679 --> 00:53:59,480
that was a tactic they used, of just ordering bird

1182
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,840
shots of the front lines.

1183
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: They're shooting down drones.

1184
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,519
Speaker 3: That's that's Yeah. Shotguns are used right now in Ukraine

1185
00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:06,239
for that reason.

1186
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,599
Speaker 2: So I kind of am wondering and maybe you can

1187
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:11,719
provide some info on this. Obviously you were kind of

1188
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,960
in the in the Global War on tear pre drone

1189
00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:19,119
like mini drone like personal drone usage. Yeah, but I

1190
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:22,360
am wondering now, like it seems very likely where you

1191
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,159
would almost have a if not a full time shotgunner,

1192
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:28,880
like someone with a shotgun on their back who's basically

1193
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,800
like a walking mini anti aircraft unit.

1194
00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:35,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so I would have it if I was

1195
00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:37,039
in that conflict right now and I had a squad,

1196
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:38,880
I'd have one dude with like a short barrel for

1197
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,039
breaching doors, and I'd have one guy with like a

1198
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:44,960
twenty four inch barrel duck gun, and he would just

1199
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,840
have it on his back and I wouldn't make him

1200
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,119
grab it unless he could have the ability. But however

1201
00:54:50,159 --> 00:54:52,000
it's set up to his back, I would have someone

1202
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,239
else grab it from him, Yeah, and then like, whoever's

1203
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,840
closest to you, heye, grab this dude's long shotgun and

1204
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,559
go for that drone. Yeah, because I've seen multiple videos

1205
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:01,679
of people with their aks or m force trying to

1206
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:05,239
shoot down drones and they're semi successful sometimes. But I

1207
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,400
would definitely have a hard like one area shot shotgun

1208
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:12,440
person dedicated to at least carrying it that anyone else

1209
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,559
can just grab it from their back and and try

1210
00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:15,280
and get the drone.

1211
00:55:16,679 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 3: Makes sense, that'd be a sweet job.

1212
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, hey, you're on drone anti aircraft watch,

1213
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,159
although from what I've seen from the Ukraine.

1214
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: It's not a sweet job. From what I've seen, it's

1215
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,920
just you see a drone hover over you as you die.

1216
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: Uh So, what's funny too, is so like there's all

1217
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,159
those crazy drone videas in Ukraine where they're dropping fucking

1218
00:55:35,519 --> 00:55:39,920
h it's grenades. But what I've read and seen from

1219
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,519
like YouTube videos of like people who are posting their

1220
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:45,559
shit from Ukraine is like, it's really most of the

1221
00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:48,320
drones aren't really dropping ordinance so much as if you

1222
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,880
see a drone, you're fuck because artillery's coming immediately, like

1223
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:55,800
if like if they hear like they have to like hide.

1224
00:55:56,119 --> 00:55:58,920
And actually I've also heard that the day is better

1225
00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,880
to operate in now.

1226
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 3: Than the night because of thermals.

1227
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so but they yeah, it's it's they're just like,

1228
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,920
yeah that what really fucks you with the drones is

1229
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:11,079
as soon as one sees you, artillery is coming like immediately.

1230
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:14,199
Speaker 4: And then the hard thing too, is they don't it's

1231
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,199
hard to tell if it's a friendly drone or not,

1232
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:19,880
right like, like a friendly drone could be past your

1233
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,920
front line scouting the enemy, or it could be behind

1234
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,559
you kind of watching your back. There's like multiple things

1235
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:27,920
to think about, and so a lot of these people

1236
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,000
are like, you you know, just hey, if we see

1237
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,199
a drone and we don't know for sure, our dudes

1238
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,880
have one up. We're just gonna shoot it down no

1239
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,039
matter what, and like, no, that was our drone, but fine,

1240
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,920
order another one off Amazon. And they have they have

1241
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,960
like three types drones. They have the fbvs, which are

1242
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,599
just the ones that run into you and explode. They

1243
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:46,760
have what they call them droppers, which drop their grenades,

1244
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,960
and then the recon one, which is just way in

1245
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,519
the background watching what you do. Yeah, so the recon

1246
00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:54,320
is calling in fpvs and droppers, and you got to

1247
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,519
know which one's doing what. And you have to listen

1248
00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:58,679
to the sound of that drone to know, oh, that's

1249
00:56:58,679 --> 00:57:01,480
a fast mover that's gonna explode on impacts, or hey

1250
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:02,800
it's dropping something.

1251
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's terrifying. That's fucking crazy.

1252
00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:08,119
Speaker 2: Although I feel like a lot of the artillery, the

1253
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:13,639
Spotterer drones that are for artillery are really mostly only

1254
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,719
relevant in this type of conflict because nobody has air superiority, right,

1255
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,639
because artillery is not going to exist in a as

1256
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,559
much of a meaningful way if like the US is involved,

1257
00:57:26,599 --> 00:57:30,159
and where are you gonna set up artillery? Yeah, eight

1258
00:57:30,199 --> 00:57:33,079
different levels of aircraft are going to fuck whatever your

1259
00:57:33,159 --> 00:57:37,159
artillery position. Yeah, exactly, Like there's no artillery exists because

1260
00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:41,599
of a lack of air superiority on the Russian partly

1261
00:57:41,679 --> 00:57:44,599
or Ukrainian part two for that matter. Yeah, so it's

1262
00:57:44,639 --> 00:57:46,039
interesting to see how they do it because I see

1263
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:47,800
that and I'm like, oh, we'll call on artillery. I'm like, well,

1264
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,360
ain't no such thing as an I mean artillery strike

1265
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,800
if from the other guys. If you have fucking planes everywhere, yeah,

1266
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,559
and they can't do anything about your planes.

1267
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 4: And artillery is terrifying because you might have you might

1268
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,599
be on like a three or a four hour mission,

1269
00:58:03,159 --> 00:58:05,880
going through churches, doing your whole thing, and then artillery

1270
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,440
when that hits you just have to run.

1271
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: So you're you're just gassed. You're tired of selling.

1272
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 4: You're like, that's why you see people kind of jogging

1273
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,760
or like even walking because they're so tired. They're like

1274
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:20,880
if I get him, cool dude, Like yeah.

1275
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:21,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fuck dude. Now.

1276
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:26,519
Speaker 2: There is one other reason that these shotguns gained so

1277
00:58:26,719 --> 00:58:31,639
much notoriety and have so much alariety to this day,

1278
00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:38,559
and that is American propaganda. Yep, there's a little bit

1279
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:44,360
of exaggeration with these things, which were badass as fuck. However,

1280
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:50,280
the Americans were looking for something to celebrate in the war,

1281
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:56,079
and not just a victory, but uh truly like American.

1282
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,159
Speaker 1: Victory, history is written by the winner's man.

1283
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:00,519
Speaker 2: One one in an American way, you know what I mean.

1284
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,760
Like if we won the World Cup, we'd want to

1285
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,199
do it all scrappy and Jim Ratty and tough and Americans.

1286
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,880
So yeah, we don't want to play some beautiful game

1287
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,159
right like some fucking brazil We don't want to be

1288
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,920
a dance fighting Brazilian soccer team, like we want to

1289
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,920
fuck gut some We've always been that way. Every country's

1290
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:26,320
kind of a hard Jim rats man. So well yeah,

1291
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:30,800
uh so the American newspapers after the Battle of sheppera, Uh,

1292
00:59:32,519 --> 00:59:35,639
I'm sorry, Sessia pre This is one of the first

1293
00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:38,239
big engagements between the Germans and the Americans. It was

1294
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,960
ultimately one two where both sides could claim victory. Basically,

1295
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,039
the Germans attacked the Americans, uh got into our trench lines,

1296
00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:50,559
and the Americans counterattacked and uh pushed them back out right.

1297
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,679
The Germans claimed there they did it because they wanted

1298
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,199
to test the Americans see how they were at fighting,

1299
00:59:56,239 --> 00:59:58,360
and also to get into their trenches and steal intelligence

1300
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,159
and then fuck off, which I suppose they succeeded it

1301
01:00:01,199 --> 01:00:03,199
on all counts so they could call it a dub.

1302
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,639
The Americans were like, they attacked us, we beat them back. Yeah,

1303
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:11,800
it's a dub for us. The newspapers looking for a

1304
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,440
reason to celebrate a victory, and you know, with Wilson's

1305
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,599
little propaganda machine, and also way to make it a

1306
01:00:17,719 --> 01:00:23,960
very American wrote the following headlines Pershing's men use sawed

1307
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,559
off shotguns to mow down stormtroopers. Americans put up desperate

1308
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:32,639
resistance of the village of Shepara Losses put two hundred

1309
01:00:32,639 --> 01:00:36,360
at toll enemy Suffolk. Americans use sawed off shotguns to

1310
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,840
mow down stormtroopers. Every single one of these stories all

1311
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,840
just like, yeah, dude, they came at us and we

1312
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:46,519
got our badass American fucking shotguns farmer stuff.

1313
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know Hawth was in World War One?

1314
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,639
Who hath Hawth?

1315
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:51,039
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1316
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,639
Speaker 2: Do you know the Germans called their guys stormtroopers? Now

1317
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,400
George Lucas steals everything.

1318
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: He steals everything everything, not a goddamn original thought man's head.

1319
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,239
Speaker 2: Like truly, though I'll never it still makes me laugh

1320
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,039
at Courtney was like, Wow, Dune ripped a lot off

1321
01:01:09,039 --> 01:01:09,679
of Star Wars.

1322
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: It's like funny thing.

1323
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,719
Speaker 4: Well, in World War Two, weren't they still called stormtroopers

1324
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,840
because the the STG forty four it was like the

1325
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,800
first like assault rifle if you want to call it.

1326
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,119
That was like the storm GAVET forty four. Yeah, the

1327
01:01:24,159 --> 01:01:28,199
storm rifle storm STU. Yeah, all right, it was like

1328
01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:30,119
it was they called the storm rifle. Yeah, so they

1329
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,000
storm rifle. But I've always been there.

1330
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 3: So you went about the Nazis, but they got the

1331
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:36,199
names down.

1332
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: Good name, that's a good name, storm rifles.

1333
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:39,519
Speaker 3: Their uniforms.

1334
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:42,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, one's going after them for their their style.

1335
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: Something else maybe yeah.

1336
01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, other stuff blank more than substance than the styles.

1337
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,199
What what we get them on.

1338
01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty good wrapping.

1339
01:01:53,239 --> 01:01:53,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1340
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: So it's funny to be because today this is like

1341
01:01:57,079 --> 01:02:01,239
you got to remember at the time too, the United

1342
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,960
States of America was not our version of the United

1343
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,679
States of America. We were an up and coming power.

1344
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:10,679
We had to show out right, we really had to, like,

1345
01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:14,559
this is our first chance on a global stage to

1346
01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:15,320
show off.

1347
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,199
Speaker 1: Since literally hmm, I think we kind of did that

1348
01:02:19,239 --> 01:02:22,119
in the Spanish American war a little.

1349
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,679
Speaker 2: But it was like, I'm trying to think of an example.

1350
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 3: We haven't gone like another country and done cool shit.

1351
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 2: Here's what beating Spain is like.

1352
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,239
Speaker 1: I mean, even the Mexican American War, We're just like, yeah, we're.

1353
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 3: Here now, we ain't played.

1354
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:34,079
Speaker 2: They were like, yeah, you ain't play nobody, Paul, And

1355
01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:36,599
beating Spain is like beating current day. Beating Spain in

1356
01:02:36,599 --> 01:02:39,360
eighth ninety eighth, like beating current day Nebraska. Oh great,

1357
01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:41,000
you beat the shit out of Nebraska.

1358
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: Still good, solid win. It's a quality conference.

1359
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: Not as good as it used to be. You aren't

1360
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,679
beating Scott Frost Nebraska team. Well you are. You're beating

1361
01:02:49,679 --> 01:02:52,719
Scott Frost Nebraska team that he coaches, not that he

1362
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,119
played on Listen.

1363
01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: There will be no Scott frostlander on this podcast moving forward.

1364
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: But we had to get it done. This is our

1365
01:03:01,519 --> 01:03:05,119
first real big test, our first real big like show

1366
01:03:05,159 --> 01:03:07,679
out on the world stage. No one had any respect

1367
01:03:07,679 --> 01:03:11,199
for Mexico. Everyone knew Spain was a fucking shell of itself.

1368
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,119
The last war we fought against a real, last real

1369
01:03:14,199 --> 01:03:16,760
team we played was Britain in eighteen twelve, and even

1370
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:17,239
though we won.

1371
01:03:17,199 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: That war handed to us.

1372
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: So I mean we really hadn't shown off and like,

1373
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,039
like our best win was against ourselves.

1374
01:03:26,199 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: It's a big dub.

1375
01:03:29,239 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 3: Like it.

1376
01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:34,159
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm sorry, Like the our B squad is

1377
01:03:34,199 --> 01:03:36,920
still better than most of the world, right, yeah, it's

1378
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,960
like I mean our best win was our spring game.

1379
01:03:40,719 --> 01:03:41,440
Yeah yeah.

1380
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,119
Speaker 2: So, I mean we this was our first chance to

1381
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:45,360
show off, and I kind of so we wanted to

1382
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,639
be like, hey, not only are we winning, but we're

1383
01:03:47,679 --> 01:03:50,559
winning in a real fucking American way. We're not taking

1384
01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:54,719
style from these French pussies, like we're doing it Americans.

1385
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 3: And it's kind of the.

1386
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,519
Speaker 2: Equivalent of like if we had to prove that today

1387
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:02,239
or maybe like in the nineties, Like imagine if like

1388
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,960
Desert Storm was our first like sweet fight and everyone

1389
01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:09,760
was like, yeah, dude, the fucking Compton Unit just gat sideways,

1390
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,400
fucking mowing down like fucking USA style dog like just

1391
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,639
fucking black, black black doing dry buys. That that is

1392
01:04:17,719 --> 01:04:19,719
kind of the equivalent of what they're going for, Like

1393
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,000
we did it, and we did it in a fucking

1394
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:23,199
American ass way.

1395
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:24,039
Speaker 3: Hell yeah.

1396
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 2: And that was sort of the propaganda aspect of why

1397
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:32,960
the shotgun usage became such a uh interest to the

1398
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,800
American public and is uh to this day. So there's

1399
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,920
a propaganda element uh to it as well. But I

1400
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,880
think it's impossible not to say that this shotgun, when used,

1401
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:47,800
wasn't devastatingly effective.

1402
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,079
Speaker 1: Also, to be fair, Ouday probably fucking mowed down some hostess.

1403
01:04:52,159 --> 01:04:55,039
He did it sideways. Yeah, with like Tupac in the corner.

1404
01:04:55,119 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: I have to imagine, I mean we he did die

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in a shootout with American forces at some point point.

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Ouda and Kusse took gold handguns, put it out a

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window and.

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Speaker 3: Shot it sideways.

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Speaker 2: Pretty cool, you one would have to imagine.

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01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,719
Speaker 1: But they had a bunch of parties with American rappers.

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They're just pay him millions of dollars to come over perform.

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01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: Are we gonna get like a Hussein brother on the

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Diddy list?

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Speaker 1: Ouda is definitely the kind of guy that would be

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01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,159
at a Diddy party.

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01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,519
Speaker 2: We did an episode on that was that Patreon remin.

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01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:28,719
Speaker 3: Yeah that's Patroon, Okay, Patroon comps.

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01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:29,719
Speaker 1: It's a little graphic.

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01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:33,719
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's that's a paywalled episode for sure. Uh

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that is all I got for today. What what did

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01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:36,719
you guys learn today.

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01:05:37,639 --> 01:05:40,199
Speaker 4: I learned that you can shoot grenades out of the

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01:05:40,239 --> 01:05:43,440
sky with a shotgun. That's the coolest thing on the planet.

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01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 3: You didn't train for that in the army?

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01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:48,559
Speaker 4: No, yeah, crazy, right, you just kind of I guess

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01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:51,679
if a grenade came like a fuck that that doesn't

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01:05:51,679 --> 01:05:52,079
look fun.

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01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:58,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. You get trained to throw a grenade once. Really, Yeah,

1429
01:05:58,719 --> 01:06:02,360
that's it. Throw one. No, you throw one grenade, all right.

1430
01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: We know how to throw things.

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01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so.

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01:06:05,199 --> 01:06:08,119
Speaker 4: As far as grenade defense, you're like, oh, maybe just

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01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:11,280
like roll away, put your feet towards the grenade, not

1434
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,920
your head. Yeah, that's essentially it cover your neck with

1435
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,760
your hands and hope for the best.

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01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm surprised other countries don't kind of go into their

1437
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:21,239
skill set with their feet, right, Like, so we grow

1438
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,039
up throwing a football or baseball. I mean they're dribbling

1439
01:06:24,039 --> 01:06:26,800
the soccer ball the entire time. So I'm there's they

1440
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,360
should honestly kick their grenades.

1441
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: Bicycle kicking a grenade.

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01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:35,159
Speaker 4: And you definitely kick it farther than you can throw it. Yeah,

1443
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:36,199
if you're skilled enough.

1444
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to wear a special shoe though, because

1445
01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:42,119
that don't break your foot. I mean grendes are heavy, right, yeah.

1446
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: Maybe you like launch it from your foot.

1447
01:06:43,239 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: That is my favorite story from Band of Brothers. I

1448
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,840
don't know if you've ever heard this, but you've seen

1449
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,039
men brother Yeah, yeah, you know Lieutenant Compton. Yeah, so

1450
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:54,880
he played catcher for UCLA, so I do use a

1451
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,320
D one baseball catcher. He was on the same team

1452
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,880
as Jackie robinsoning whoa okay it fucking good ass baseball

1453
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,760
player at a good baseball.

1454
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,519
Speaker 3: School rip pack eight.

1455
01:07:06,159 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: Anyway, when they were fighting at break cormanor on D

1456
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,559
Day or whatever. He takes a grenade and throws it

1457
01:07:14,199 --> 01:07:16,480
as the Germans are running away, and he throws it

1458
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:18,960
basically like like a fucking baseball.

1459
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:20,119
Speaker 1: Like he's thrown out a runner at second.

1460
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 2: At second, yeah, like he's running a running a second

1461
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,280
and this thing explodes next to a German's head at

1462
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,719
about the distance second base would be from home plate.

1463
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,119
Nailed a runner with a grenade.

1464
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 3: That's crazy, That's awesome.

1465
01:07:33,239 --> 01:07:34,599
Speaker 2: Fucking sweet as fuck.

1466
01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Would you learn today? Did you say? I don't remember?

1467
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: No? I learned that, Uh, America's just always the best.

1468
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,480
We're is the best fucking rad Yeah, I ain't learned

1469
01:07:48,519 --> 01:07:51,519
much I just knew this. I just knew America is

1470
01:07:51,519 --> 01:07:54,440
the best. Yeah, who's today's hit I get reinformed that

1471
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:55,719
we're just with the goats.

1472
01:07:55,719 --> 01:07:59,559
Speaker 2: We are no quote, no questions asked. Who's today's Hitler.

1473
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 4: It has to be the Germans for trying to say

1474
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,360
the shotguns war crime, you know, stup it and if

1475
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,079
you take anything home today, it's it's that it's not

1476
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:09,599
a war crime.

1477
01:08:09,679 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 3: Fit's the first time I'm not saying Willhelm, that's how

1478
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:12,760
it should be.

1479
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, not only did he really kind of stoke the

1480
01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:20,279
flames of this fucking war, but then he beefed with

1481
01:08:20,359 --> 01:08:23,079
Hitler but then offered up congratulations to Hitler.

1482
01:08:23,239 --> 01:08:24,159
Speaker 2: So dap Hitler up.

1483
01:08:24,199 --> 01:08:27,079
Speaker 1: He's a he's a flip flopper. He's not consistent, he's

1484
01:08:27,119 --> 01:08:27,600
a bitch.

1485
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,239
Speaker 3: He is a bit Willhelm.

1486
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,079
Speaker 2: I would like to do I probably will at some

1487
01:08:31,079 --> 01:08:33,840
point to an episode on Willhelm and his relations with

1488
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,640
Nazi Germany because it's funny because he really does try

1489
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:44,079
to be like he really does try once the Nazis

1490
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:47,600
start like rolling, he does try to be like, yeah, dude,

1491
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,920
we tried that when I was in the house and

1492
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:53,520
fucking sick. See you guys following my legacy, you know,

1493
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,079
like fucking crushing it. And then like he's a poser.

1494
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were all like, dude, who the fuck

1495
01:08:58,159 --> 01:08:59,840
is this guy? Like asshole.

1496
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:03,039
Speaker 1: It's like a thirty year old man returning back to

1497
01:09:03,039 --> 01:09:05,239
the fraternity house. Get him out of a party.

1498
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 2: I would never bring him in.

1499
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: God, there's just so many signs at Rob's old fraternity house.

1500
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,319
It's like, please do not let this man in.

1501
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:21,119
Speaker 3: Uh. Well, they used to be probably for having too

1502
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:21,880
much fun.

1503
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: Of a sad life, but now I'm a father who

1504
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,800
ens for Dan Regester.

1505
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Scott Lopez.

1506
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: Make sure to leave a review of five stars please

1507
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,720
and thank you Apple and Spotify. Apple really helps us move.

1508
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:37,520
Speaker 3: Up the charts.

1509
01:09:38,359 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: Check out YouTube dot Com, slash software History, watch our prey,

1510
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:47,439
pretty little Faces, Scott's little costumes, little BUCkies one. We

1511
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,399
do have some reviews to read. Actually, we do have reviews.

1512
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,239
We have You're always trying to end the show. It's

1513
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:54,439
just like we have to handle business.

1514
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 2: I know, I know, let's read the last three because

1515
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,600
those are recent. This will and I actually thought it

1516
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,039
was going to be a bad review till I saw

1517
01:10:02,079 --> 01:10:05,960
the five stars. I said, Lepper King Root Canal and

1518
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,039
I was like, oh, is this he's saying this listening

1519
01:10:08,039 --> 01:10:09,800
to the show is like getting a fucking root canal.

1520
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,520
Speaker 1: Whatever, dude, I had a friend that told me it

1521
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:12,239
was a good episode.

1522
01:10:13,239 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 2: Well he said so too, he said, listen to the

1523
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,479
leper king episode while getting four fillings refilled and a

1524
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,319
crown that ended up needing to be a root canal.

1525
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,640
Thankfully the softies were there to soften the blow. That's

1526
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,680
from Phone Bone twenty nineteen.

1527
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: I also probably should have factored in that I had

1528
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,760
king in the title of the last two of the

1529
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:31,720
last three episodes.

1530
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 2: We do that a lot, we get on Little Runs.

1531
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens.

1532
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 2: Next one is from Alex Kern. Alex, what a name

1533
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,960
came here? Because they made me I will subscribe to

1534
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,319
your Patreon if you read this on the show and

1535
01:10:46,359 --> 01:10:49,279
say I am crowning, Well, I am crowning right now.

1536
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,920
That is the inn made me need to poop. You

1537
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,960
better pay your debts. We just read that, yeah, Alex Kern, Alex,

1538
01:10:56,039 --> 01:10:57,039
I mean, don't do it.

1539
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,359
Speaker 3: On the app. Do it on the web browser. Yeah.

1540
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't subscribe on the app. The Apple will steal

1541
01:11:02,079 --> 01:11:03,920
money from us money told us.

1542
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:04,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1543
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: Uh, And then dude, J eighty three swing by a

1544
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,920
bunch of college idiots putting their spin on history. I'm

1545
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,720
down now, where did the swingers start?

1546
01:11:13,279 --> 01:11:16,239
Speaker 3: Ah? What a nice guy? Yeah, I didn't go to college.

1547
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,479
Take that, dude.

1548
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 2: It's just two college idiots now. But i'd say, but

1549
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,600
there's about one hundred some episodes with three Yeah, exactly

1550
01:11:27,119 --> 01:11:30,600
close to two hundred, I don't even know anymore.

1551
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: And then you include the Patreon it's probably closer to

1552
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:33,640
fifty three hundred.

1553
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, but yeah, thank you.

1554
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,319
Speaker 1: I actually listened to an a little episode with Jake

1555
01:11:37,319 --> 01:11:40,239
the other day. We had such magic. We really did

1556
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:41,600
what could have what could have been?

1557
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: He had to ruin it.

1558
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 3: For his oysters.

1559
01:11:45,359 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: Now I'm stuck with you did oh fucking did?

1560
01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:51,319
Speaker 2: Uh?

1561
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah that's all we got for today.

1562
01:11:53,079 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeh, Scott dude, thanks for coming man.

1563
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for the invite, Thanks for.

1564
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:58,199
Speaker 2: An expertise.

1565
01:11:58,279 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: Do you want to pimp anything now? Ah, it's fair

1566
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:05,159
go uh.

1567
01:12:05,319 --> 01:12:09,520
Speaker 4: Actually, if you see flowing water anywhere, stop it, That's

1568
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:10,079
all I'll say.

1569
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,199
Speaker 3: But I'm a beaver dude. Oh yeah, I'm doing beaver

1570
01:12:14,359 --> 01:12:14,960
quest now.

1571
01:12:15,279 --> 01:12:16,039
Speaker 1: And then it's awesome.

1572
01:12:16,039 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 4: I see water flowing anywhere I go. Absolutely fucking nic

1573
01:12:19,119 --> 01:12:22,640
It's perfect for home defense. Yeah, exactly, damn it up.

1574
01:12:23,359 --> 01:12:26,760
Put it in your walls living there if it's big enough.

1575
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, just living an aquarium and all of your

1576
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:30,800
problems are gone.

1577
01:12:31,239 --> 01:12:33,159
Speaker 3: Smart that's all I got.

1578
01:12:33,279 --> 01:12:35,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just got saw serve.

1579
01:12:41,079 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 3: Nice one.