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Speaker 2: How's it going.
Speaker 1: I dropped off a little bit there, but but I'm back.
Speaker 1: The fog is lifted. I sent you a picture of
Speaker 1: the fog because you you love the fog. But the
Speaker 1: fog is lifted, lifted in blue sky, Sonny, So that's nice.
Speaker 2: You said it's not warm though, it's no.
Speaker 3: It's like sixty sixty degrees for the high here all week.
Speaker 3: Let's see what it is, right, it's fifty three right now.
Speaker 2: It's not bad. It's going to be It's going to
Speaker 2: be eighty plus here in Burbanks.
Speaker 3: Struggle really is that the ugliness of the bee.
Speaker 2: Does not what is b e WHOA? What was that?
Speaker 1: But it sounds I don't want to hear more about
Speaker 1: her personal struggle, please, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what that is. Yeah, eighty degrees in Burbank today.
Speaker 4: I think tomorrow is supposed to be the warmest day
Speaker 4: of the week here in southern California, and then it
Speaker 4: changes significantly again. We'll go back to some potential for
Speaker 4: rain over the weekend, even some snow in the mountains.
Speaker 1: So hey, what's worse do you think on a flight
Speaker 1: sitting next to somebody who's really loud, really chatty, maybe
Speaker 1: even belligerent, somebody who's just, oh my god, shut up,
Speaker 1: or somebody who's dead, like, honest to god, dead with
Speaker 1: a blanket over them and you're sitting next to them
Speaker 1: the whole flight.
Speaker 3: I choose dead.
Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting I reading that story. We'll get into
Speaker 4: it when we do. Terror in the Sky is coming
Speaker 4: up at ten thirty. But I thought about it. It
Speaker 4: depends on where I'm going. I think, why, Well, if
Speaker 4: I'm doing a business trip, like if we're flying to
Speaker 4: Chicago to go to a convention, that's not.
Speaker 3: Really a business trip, will go on?
Speaker 2: I mean, but I got a week of work ahead
Speaker 2: of me.
Speaker 1: Okay again not really work, but anyway, go ahead, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Or am I going to King Kun?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: Or you would rather you'd so walk me through your
Speaker 1: your thought process.
Speaker 2: Well, see, rather.
Speaker 1: The dead person going on the business trip and the
Speaker 1: loud guy going to Cancun or what?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4: I mean, because they're not going to harsh my buzz
Speaker 4: if I'm going on a work trip. You're not going
Speaker 4: to harsh my buzz by being dead sitting next to
Speaker 4: me for the two and a half hour flight. But
Speaker 4: if you are dead and you're going to Cancun, I'm
Speaker 4: going to be thinking about dead people the whole time.
Speaker 4: And like, poor families got to go to Cancun to
Speaker 4: pick up the body, how do they get it back?
Speaker 1: I feel like the loud, annoying, chatty guy would ruin
Speaker 1: my buzz more than a dead person. A dead person's
Speaker 1: just sitting there, dead, nice and quiet.
Speaker 3: No, you don't have to look at them. They got
Speaker 3: a blanket over their face.
Speaker 2: Because your trajectory, you're going on vacation.
Speaker 4: You're also up and excited about vacation, and that guy
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't you know, you might rise to meet the loud, chatty,
Speaker 4: drunk guy.
Speaker 3: No you won't.
Speaker 1: You're going to You're not going to rise to meet him.
Speaker 1: You have nothing in common with him. He's chatting about nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, no, you're changing.
Speaker 4: There was a guy you're saying that now, I don't
Speaker 4: have anything in common with person.
Speaker 1: There was a guy on the flight when we went
Speaker 1: to Phoenix to see the Savannah bananas, and this guy
Speaker 1: in the row ahead of us, would not sh shut up.
Speaker 1: And again, it's a very quick flight to Phoenix, right,
Speaker 1: what forty five minutes something like that. Very quick flight,
Speaker 1: no problem. But this guy was a loud talker. He
Speaker 1: would not shut up, just talking about inane things to
Speaker 1: the woman next to him was who also was a
Speaker 1: brain stem, who also had nothing interesting to say. And
Speaker 1: he's getting off the plane and I have my noise
Speaker 1: canceling headphones on and I'm still listening to this guy
Speaker 1: just ramble, just will not shut up about the anyway.
Speaker 1: So we land, we're getting off the plane and he
Speaker 1: says to the man next to him, because this is
Speaker 1: the weekend before super Bowl, right, so this is the
Speaker 1: Friday or Saturday morning before Super Bowl and super Bowl
Speaker 1: comes up or whatever is. People are getting off the
Speaker 1: plane and the chatty guy says to the guy who's
Speaker 1: on the eye aisle seat the woman's in between, he says, oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch the super Bowl. And the guy in
Speaker 1: the aisles like, yeah, you know, I do like the Eagles,
Speaker 1: And the chatty guy says the Eagles, Well, it's the
Speaker 1: Redskins that are playing. The guy in the aisle goes, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's the Eagles, And the chatty guy says, well,
Speaker 1: are you sure about that? Because I think like he
Speaker 1: was going to double down on something that the world
Speaker 1: had known for two weeks.
Speaker 2: I love that he was going to.
Speaker 1: Double down on that and tell that other guy that
Speaker 1: he was wrong despite not having any idea who was
Speaker 1: playing in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the kind of guy. I would have
Speaker 3: rather had him be dead.
Speaker 2: Would you have killed him just to shut him up?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying to prove my point.
Speaker 2: That is funny.
Speaker 4: We had a guy sitting behind us at one of
Speaker 4: the spring training games this weekend, and my friend and
Speaker 4: I are longtime baseball fans, so it's and I've gone
Speaker 4: with him to spring training before, and his son was
Speaker 4: with us this time, and his fun son's not a
Speaker 4: U baseball guy, but he's he wanted to hang out
Speaker 4: with us. The kid sits the kid guy sits next
Speaker 4: to us behind us and is just constantly talking the
Speaker 4: entire time about the game and talking about which players
Speaker 4: are good and which players are bad. Why it is
Speaker 4: that Cleveland had to change their name from Indians to Guardians.
Speaker 4: Who you know, Mike Trout, is this and everything, and
Speaker 4: he was just off and I mean, he got about
Speaker 4: seventy percent of it right. But your point is that
Speaker 4: he was adamant. He was adamant about every single point
Speaker 4: that he was making. And every once in a while,
Speaker 4: my friend and I would look at each other and
Speaker 4: just be like, no, got that one wrong, No got
Speaker 4: that one right. But because because because no one else
Speaker 4: in his group, you know, he's there with a girlfriend
Speaker 4: and I think her parents, and it sounded like it
Speaker 4: was kind of the first time or one of the
Speaker 4: first times that they'd all hung out together, and they
Speaker 4: would turn and ask him, like, well, they can they
Speaker 4: challenge the play when they're at second base and he's like, well,
Speaker 4: of course they can, because they have cameras in second base.
Speaker 2: No they don't. They don't do that in spring training.
Speaker 2: I mean, just stuff like that. But he was very
Speaker 2: very confident about his answers.
Speaker 1: I pray to God that one day I'm the kind
Speaker 1: of person who has patience to not call someone out
Speaker 1: on that, to just sit there politely and be like
Speaker 1: huh okay, you know, and not be like, actually, you're
Speaker 1: wrong because of this, this and this. Well, and it
Speaker 1: was funny, yeah, yeah, exactly same thing, exactly the same thing.
Speaker 4: There was a guy sitting right in front of us,
Speaker 4: you know, so he's two rows away, but he can
Speaker 4: hear I mean, the guy is just loud and constantly talking,
Speaker 4: which was annoying. But even this old guy who's sitting
Speaker 4: in front of us Cleveland Guardians spring training ticket hold
Speaker 4: a season ticket or whatever it is, because he's a
Speaker 4: huge fan. But he moved to Arizona, so he's there
Speaker 4: for every spring training game. Even he was like, you
Speaker 4: could hear him audibly going.
Speaker 2: Oh jeez, what is this guy talking about?
Speaker 4: And it was great because everything that would have been me,
Speaker 4: everybody in the in the area that kind of knew
Speaker 4: enough about baseball to know that he was wrong about stuff.
Speaker 2: We were having a blast. We're just that's more entertaining than.
Speaker 1: Oh that's funny, that's funny. That's a bonding experience right there.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was pretty good.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's great.
Speaker 4: At the bottom of this hour is an interesting look
Speaker 4: at sex torsion scams. You know, you somehow get convinced
Speaker 4: to send somebody some nudes and then they turn around
Speaker 4: and use them against you to try to make money
Speaker 4: off of you.
Speaker 1: This is such a chilling story because you think about
Speaker 1: teenage boys and they have no choice but to be
Speaker 1: dialed into wanting sex.
Speaker 3: That's just nature.
Speaker 1: That's just how boys at that age are programmed into
Speaker 1: thinking about women and the body and there. But like
Speaker 1: the whole thing and the fact that there's scammers trying
Speaker 1: to get these kids and then get them to kill themselves.
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't the first time we've done this story,
Speaker 1: but it's something that's picking up speed and more and
Speaker 1: more teenage boys are being netted by this.
Speaker 3: So I'm just eating.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's very handle of you. Wow, Holy mackerel. He
Speaker 2: should be ashamed, all right.
Speaker 1: So the deadline for federal workers that Elon Musk gave
Speaker 1: them was what midnight last night, right. He told federal
Speaker 1: workers last night via x that they did have another
Speaker 1: chance to justify.
Speaker 3: Their work or lose their jobs.
Speaker 1: Employees that multiple federal agencies had been told to disregard
Speaker 1: that initial directive.
Speaker 3: The White House kind of backed.
Speaker 1: Off, and he did say that now that they will
Speaker 1: have another chance. He said, failure to respond a second
Speaker 1: time will result in termination. I don't know how he
Speaker 1: would have the power to make that call to terminate
Speaker 1: vast amounts of federal workers like that. But he has
Speaker 1: not provided a new deadline.
Speaker 4: No, and he doesn't have the power to do that.
Speaker 4: But what the And this is again I mentioned this yesterday.
Speaker 4: This is kind of what he's learned to do from Trump,
Speaker 4: and Trump has learned to do from Musk, which is
Speaker 4: walk in there with a giant sledgehammer and just start
Speaker 4: breaking stuff and see what happens. He doesn't have the
Speaker 4: power to fire anybody, which is why he told everybody
Speaker 4: to see see their direct supervisors on these emails with
Speaker 4: these five bullets. But your point was some of the
Speaker 4: agencies have said don't worry about replying to them. For example,
Speaker 4: Rachel Scott from ABC News says there's confusion now at
Speaker 4: one agency, Health in Human Services.
Speaker 6: The Department of Health and Human Services sent competing messages,
Speaker 6: at first telling employees to respond to the email, then
Speaker 6: six hours later telling them not to respond, and finally
Speaker 6: telling workers they can respond if they want to, but
Speaker 6: warning they should assume that what you write will be
Speaker 6: read by malign foreign actors. And Taylor responds accordingly.
Speaker 4: And that's why things like the Department of Justice has
Speaker 4: come out and specifically said, hey, you have any sensitive
Speaker 4: things don't even bother replying to the email. We don't
Speaker 4: need we don't want to risk any sort of intelligence
Speaker 4: or classify information getting out.
Speaker 3: And you should know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, the people who said to ignore the email
Speaker 1: are this, like you said, the Justice Department, the FBI,
Speaker 1: the State Department, the Pentagon, Department of Energy, Department of
Speaker 1: Homeland Security, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Speaker 1: If you work for those departments, you probably have enough
Speaker 1: cells to go ahead and say, hey, this is I'm
Speaker 1: going to disregard this, right, and you're next in commandatorily.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yes, Others including the Department of Transportation, the Education Department,
Speaker 1: Department of Commerce, National Transportation Safety Board, they all told
Speaker 1: their workers that they should comply.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And there are some agencies who are like, hey, this
Speaker 4: is a good idea. Maybe we do this weekly. Maybe
Speaker 4: maybe we start asking people every week.
Speaker 1: Right, And like I said yesterday, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: companies that do that already. I mean, I was surprised
Speaker 1: that the federal government didn't already do that, with the
Speaker 1: amount of bureaucracy involved and the amount of redundancy and
Speaker 1: people just getting into each other's business. Surprise that that
Speaker 1: wasn't already in place.
Speaker 4: So Trump hosted French President Macron at the White House yesterday.
Speaker 4: But this did come up, this email or now I
Speaker 4: guess a couple at least one email and then some
Speaker 4: posts on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Is this the right way to go about doing it?
Speaker 2: He said, it was great.
Speaker 1: We have people that.
Speaker 8: Don't show up to work and nobody even knows if
Speaker 8: they work for the government. So by asking the question,
Speaker 8: tell us what you did this week, what he's doing
Speaker 8: is saying are you actually working?
Speaker 2: And then if you don't.
Speaker 8: Answer, like you're sort of semi fired or you fired
Speaker 8: semi fi because a lot of people are not answering
Speaker 8: because they don't even exist. They're trying to find That's
Speaker 8: how badly various parts of our government were run by it,
Speaker 8: especially by this last group.
Speaker 4: And again one of the things that Elon Musk pointed
Speaker 4: out as to why he would do this is he
Speaker 4: believes that there are thousands, maybe more people who are
Speaker 4: getting checks from the government but don't actually either exist
Speaker 4: or they're not alive, and that this is one of
Speaker 4: the ways that people are, you know, taking advantage of
Speaker 4: the just the largess of a two point three million
Speaker 4: person federal bureaucracy.
Speaker 1: Well, and like we said, it's just so baseline. Send
Speaker 1: five things you did in the past week. You know,
Speaker 1: everyone can do that. We can all everyone listening, we
Speaker 1: can all do that. We can say five things we've
Speaker 1: done for work in the past week. That is an
Speaker 1: easy thing. And to your point, he said that the
Speaker 1: email was basically a check to see if an employee
Speaker 1: had a pulse.
Speaker 3: Now, yes, it's kind.
Speaker 1: Of I understand the thinking of who the hell does
Speaker 1: this guy think he is asking me, being my accountability boss,
Speaker 1: all of this just because he's this billionaire, you know,
Speaker 1: multi billionaire with tons of money, and you know, Trump's
Speaker 1: best friend, and who the hell is he to check
Speaker 1: up on me and what I'm doing and that's between
Speaker 1: me and my higher ups and all of that.
Speaker 3: I understand that. But just send the email. Just just
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 1: Have that vent session I would, but then just send
Speaker 1: the emails. It takes you a minute because that way
Speaker 1: you prove you're alive. No one's going to go through
Speaker 1: it with a fine toothed comb. You know, he just said,
Speaker 1: let's make sure people have a pulse and are capable
Speaker 1: of applying to an email. And the vast amount of emails.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know the thousands or hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of people this was sent to.
Speaker 4: Two three million, they said, okay, like two million roughly,
Speaker 4: because the two point three there may be some who
Speaker 4: don't have government emails that are run through the Officer
Speaker 4: of Personnel Management stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So who are the people going through these emails anyway?
Speaker 1: I mean, this seems like all bluster to me.
Speaker 4: Well, and that's I mean, that's part of the giant
Speaker 4: sledgehammer that they come in with and then kind of
Speaker 4: backfiel the information. They've said that along with the email
Speaker 4: that goes to your direct supervisor, that some of the
Speaker 4: emails would then be scanned by a large language model
Speaker 4: AI to determine if in fact you wrote it yourself
Speaker 4: or if you know you can justify your work.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I don't know how they programmed the AI to determine
Speaker 4: whether or not you've justified your work in these five
Speaker 4: bullet points, but it just it does seem like, just
Speaker 4: just do your five bullet points.
Speaker 2: Stop, stop complaining and lighten your hair on.
Speaker 3: Explain all you want, but send the email.
Speaker 2: That's what I would do. Complain in the email if
Speaker 2: you like, but still but still do it.
Speaker 3: Just send it who you know?
Speaker 2: Come on, listen, this this story.
Speaker 4: We mentioned this, These these sextortion scams that are now
Speaker 4: taking advantage of and targeting, specifically targeting teenage boys. I
Speaker 4: can't think of a better I know everybody went crazy
Speaker 4: when and overreacted when I said I had a nineteen
Speaker 4: point phone contract with my kids. This is exactly the
Speaker 4: kind of thing I never wanted my kids to have
Speaker 4: to get caught up in.
Speaker 7: Hey dang, Shannon love this talk about the airplanes blurgerns
Speaker 7: versus dead And I've been on an airplane where there's
Speaker 7: been a dead person, and I've been on them where
Speaker 7: there's been blurdering people. I'll take the blur jerr one.
Speaker 7: The reason why is you can find a way to
Speaker 7: laugh at them. But also the dead person doesn't just
Speaker 7: sit there quietly. There are noises that are made, and
Speaker 7: there are smells that are unbelievable, And I would just
Speaker 7: say I don't want to be near a dead person
Speaker 7: for any amount of time on the airplane. Thanks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I didn't think about that part
Speaker 1: the smells and what the body does when it is expired.
Speaker 2: Listen, it doesn't necessarily way, but it depends on those lengths.
Speaker 1: But if you're on a four hour flight, man that
Speaker 1: that body is going to start smelling right.
Speaker 9: Now that football's over. I'd like to go your opinion
Speaker 9: on some viewership stats. So season four of the Real
Speaker 9: Housewives of New York City Tephany Frankls last season of
Speaker 9: course you quit the first.
Speaker 7: Time had almost two million viewers.
Speaker 9: The end of season thirteen with all the O g's
Speaker 9: and fifty thousand viewers, and now the new season two
Speaker 9: and fifty thousand view She's a fifteen OKA like your opinion, Thanks,
Speaker 9: But okay.
Speaker 1: My opinion is this New York City Housewives has always
Speaker 1: been kind of trash. It was good in its infancy,
Speaker 1: like season four was probably peak New York City Housewives,
Speaker 1: but the new people they got are awful, and I
Speaker 1: just I have not I have not found anything about
Speaker 1: them to be interesting or relatable. Maybe it's an East
Speaker 1: coast West coast thing, but I found the first women
Speaker 1: of New York City to be more relatable and interesting
Speaker 1: and a train wreck. But the latest people are just unwatchable.
Speaker 1: I agree with the numbers. I'm kind of a loyalist.
Speaker 1: I stick to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and of
Speaker 1: course my favorite Real Housewives of Orange County.
Speaker 3: But I'm sorry, Am I still talking about this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know why.
Speaker 3: He asked.
Speaker 4: He did, he asked, He asked, Okay, we've talked about
Speaker 4: this technology contract before that. I had both of our
Speaker 4: kids sign before we gave them phones, and it was
Speaker 4: just basic rules about you know, being courteous, put your
Speaker 4: phone down when you're at dinner, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm interested to see though, that was a really
Speaker 1: long time ago. That was that was about ten years ago.
Speaker 1: The way that phones have what is the right word
Speaker 1: insidiously planted themselves in children and in us has grown
Speaker 1: exponentially in ten years. Just think about yourself alone and
Speaker 1: how much you looked at your phone, touched your phone,
Speaker 1: thought about your phone ten years ago to now.
Speaker 3: It's a huge divide. It's a huge difference.
Speaker 1: And while I applaud your contract, I just don't know
Speaker 1: this day and age how that is going to work.
Speaker 1: I mean, I still applaud it, but I just don't
Speaker 1: know anymore about how how you could do that, how
Speaker 1: you could separate the kid from the phone so much.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. They say that teens are
Speaker 1: relying more on online friends than ever. They feel very
Speaker 1: comfortable disclosing information to an online friend that they may
Speaker 1: not tell a physical one. This is not occurring to me.
Speaker 1: This is according to Melissa Strobel. She's a vice president
Speaker 1: of Research and Insights at Thorn. It's a tech nonprofit organization.
Speaker 1: It creates things like your phone contract, creates products to
Speaker 1: shield children from sexual abuse and online specifically.
Speaker 4: That next statistic is what just it should punch people
Speaker 4: directly in the face.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, more than one in three minors
Speaker 1: reported having an online sexual interaction one in three.
Speaker 4: And you don't when you're that age, you don't know
Speaker 4: what to do with it. I mean, listen, I loved
Speaker 4: your point in the last segment about boys in that
Speaker 4: age range. I mean girls to a degree, but not
Speaker 4: like boys. Boys are just hormones at that point, that's all.
Speaker 4: And they don't know what to do with it, and
Speaker 4: they don't know how to control it, and they don't
Speaker 4: know how to get sex, and they, I mean all
Speaker 4: of these they simply don't know. And then when you
Speaker 4: add the layer of technology to it, where it's not
Speaker 4: just a trickle of sexual information. It's a fire hose
Speaker 4: of sexual information or opportunity. Now it's not real opportunity,
Speaker 4: but it surely feels like it's an opportunity to some
Speaker 4: of these kids.
Speaker 1: They say financial sex stortion because this does have.
Speaker 3: A financial element.
Speaker 1: This is not just cruel for being the sake of
Speaker 1: cruel and trying to net kids for the sake of
Speaker 1: embarrassing them. It's about getting money out of this, like
Speaker 1: all good cruks want to do, it's to extort people
Speaker 1: using their emotions. Unfortunate, all of this interaction online with
Speaker 1: kids and adults makes it that much easier. Financial sex
Speaker 1: stortion is the fastest growing cybercrime targeting children in America.
Speaker 3: It has been around.
Speaker 1: Probably for decades, but in years past people didn't have
Speaker 1: the terminology or the resources to report it. Now it
Speaker 1: is being reported, and in the years since the pandemic,
Speaker 1: it has exploded, because what did the pandemic do? It
Speaker 1: put us in our rooms, if her kids in their
Speaker 1: rooms and on their screens, and we can talk to
Speaker 1: we're blue in the face about how detrimental that was
Speaker 1: and how detrimental.
Speaker 3: It will be for their probably entire lives.
Speaker 1: But this is one of the things that was able
Speaker 1: to grow in that environment.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean your point.
Speaker 4: It cemented the necessity of having the device around all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 3: It made it okay.
Speaker 1: It told your kids it's okay to go in your
Speaker 1: room and be on your screens all day because that's
Speaker 1: where you're learning. Do you think they were learning the
Speaker 1: whole time? Probably not, listen. I'm not a parent, so
Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, it looks like it takes
Speaker 1: more energy than I'll ever have in my entire life
Speaker 1: all put together, for one day of being a parent.
Speaker 1: And I get how it would be easier for me
Speaker 1: to know that my kid is in their room and
Speaker 1: they're learning, and they're doing all their zoom classes and
Speaker 1: whatever and cool, I won't even think about it, But
Speaker 1: what else is going on in there? And it's not
Speaker 1: parents' fault, you know, all the time.
Speaker 3: But it's like we all.
Speaker 1: Said as a society to kids, it's okay to be
Speaker 1: on your screens for freaking twelve hours a day because
Speaker 1: that's the only way you're going to learn.
Speaker 3: And when you're giving them okay.
Speaker 1: It's like when we were growing up playing video games,
Speaker 1: where like we knew that it was fun, we felt
Speaker 1: like maybe there might be something wrong with it, Like
Speaker 1: after an hour of playing Super Mario Brothers, I kind
Speaker 1: of felt like I was being a little too decatent,
Speaker 1: Like is there something wrong with me watching the screen
Speaker 1: for so long? Probably like you had that ingrained in you.
Speaker 1: We said it was okay for them to just look
Speaker 1: at screens for that long.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it doesn't it's you can't go back on that.
Speaker 4: That's hard to pull them away once you've took.
Speaker 3: It's an addiction and now it has Now it has roots.
Speaker 4: We've been talking about this, this big headline that came
Speaker 4: out today from USA today regarding nude photo scams that
Speaker 4: target these teenage boys, and there repairs to be.
Speaker 1: A script like it's a lot of it's from Nigeria,
Speaker 1: kind of like the new version of the Prints that
Speaker 1: needs your mom's.
Speaker 4: Help, right, and it's it starts out innocently enough, where
Speaker 4: you know, you get a message from somebody that says
Speaker 4: something like, hey, I found your page through some friends
Speaker 4: and we should we should hang out, we should talk
Speaker 4: chat whatever it is, and then the bad person, boy, girl, whatever,
Speaker 4: the predator will then drive the conversation to sex pretty quickly,
Speaker 4: and then in a lot of cases, just send unsolicited nudes.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Again, for a boy, most of the time they're trying
Speaker 4: to entice him with naked pictures of a young girl.
Speaker 4: So then they entice the boy. Hey, send me some
Speaker 4: nudes of yourself once they.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, boys, women aren't built the same way
Speaker 1: you are men.
Speaker 3: Boys are more visual people.
Speaker 1: Right, Teenage girls are not going to be clamoring to
Speaker 1: see pictures of you naked.
Speaker 3: That's never going to be a thing. It's never going
Speaker 3: to be a real thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, they're playing to the boy's fantasy.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just saying that's not a thing. Well,
Speaker 1: women are dying to see what your penis looks. It's
Speaker 1: just not a thing.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you. It's hard to turn off that fantasy.
Speaker 4: That's I know.
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm just trying to get it out
Speaker 1: there as a PSA.
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't work.
Speaker 3: The brain works very differently.
Speaker 1: As much as you think that you want to see
Speaker 1: a girl, that you want to see a girl naked
Speaker 1: or her parts or what have you. That is that
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent accurate in the way your brain works.
Speaker 1: If a girl is clamoring to see you, there should
Speaker 1: be a red flag that goes up in your head.
Speaker 4: Well, that's when the blackmail starts, because the scammers will say,
Speaker 4: now I've got everything I need to blackmail you.
Speaker 2: I've got everything to ruin your life.
Speaker 4: I have all of the screenshots of your followers and
Speaker 4: the tags everybody who comments on your post, your WhatsApp
Speaker 4: contact list, whatever it is, and I'm going to send
Speaker 4: these images to them, or you're going to send me money,
Speaker 4: one of the two things that happens. But again, the
Speaker 4: things to watch out for is very very First of all,
Speaker 4: not if it goes to sex right away, it's too
Speaker 4: good to be true.
Speaker 3: But again to.
Speaker 1: Your point, how do you tell a teenage boy that
Speaker 1: that's the fantasy that's like, oh my god, it went
Speaker 1: to sex right away, Yes, this is the mecca.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They also they call it a romance scam on steroids
Speaker 1: that within an hour these images are exchanged and within
Speaker 1: an hour they're demanding mone I mean the whole thing
Speaker 1: from start to finish, from is this really happening to
Speaker 1: this is happening to you? Give me money or else
Speaker 1: I tell your parents and I share this with your
Speaker 1: with your sister and your brother, all happens.
Speaker 2: Within an hour, we got a comment from somebody.
Speaker 7: Hi.
Speaker 5: Gary and Shannon, my twenty five year old son got
Speaker 5: caught up in this scam. The woman in quotes sent
Speaker 5: a picture of herself. He of course reciprocated. The next
Speaker 5: thing I know, he's calling me, freaking out that this
Speaker 5: person was going to spread his photos through all of
Speaker 5: his WhatsApp contacts. I reassured him that probably this was
Speaker 5: a scam and happening to other people. Of course, nothing
Speaker 5: other came out of it, but it was a great
Speaker 5: lesson for him to learn, and he never will do
Speaker 5: it again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a hard lesson to learn. Thankfully, this guy
Speaker 4: was able to get away and didn't have all these
Speaker 4: images out there. There are tools now that exist to
Speaker 4: help kind of claw back some of those images from
Speaker 4: the internet, but it is a hard, hard job to
Speaker 4: get all of them.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that she called in and said that he
Speaker 1: was twenty five, because I was thinking about my my
Speaker 1: comment about girl girls do not want to see pictures
Speaker 1: of men naked or boys naked. I can definitely attest
Speaker 1: to that. I think probably I would have said before
Speaker 1: I heard her call and her comment that women about
Speaker 1: twenty five probably, I think that's a safe age to
Speaker 1: say they might want to start seeing it. You know,
Speaker 1: but girls who are in high school they want nothing
Speaker 1: to they don't want to know what's what's going on
Speaker 1: there for the most part ever, ever, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, that's.
Speaker 3: Just not it's just not something that I don't know
Speaker 3: what raised.
Speaker 2: Like you said, we are brains.
Speaker 1: You thought in high school that girls wanted to see
Speaker 1: you naked?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's not That's not what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 4: just I don't thinking. Okay, if you did thought to it.
Speaker 3: It's just I'm just saying they did not.
Speaker 4: I didn't see any I don't know any girls who
Speaker 4: snuck looks at Playgirl magazine.
Speaker 1: Right, exactly my point? Yeah, exact, Thank you Bingo.
Speaker 2: All right, the Wildfire Reacher.
Speaker 3: I was at.
Speaker 1: Least thirty until I got into Playgirl, and then after
Speaker 1: that Watch Out Look.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, now I got like sixteen subscriptions.
Speaker 4: Well, the Wildfire Recovery costs and whether or not we're
Speaker 4: gonna be ready for the Olympics that's coming up next.
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