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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf

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<v Speaker 1>I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 1>demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going.

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped off a little bit there, but but I'm back.

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<v Speaker 1>The fog is lifted. I sent you a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>the fog because you you love the fog. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fog is lifted, lifted in blue sky, Sonny, So that's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>You said it's not warm though, it's no.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like sixty sixty degrees for the high here all week.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see what it is, right, it's fifty three right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not bad. It's going to be It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be eighty plus here in Burbanks.

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<v Speaker 3>Struggle really is that the ugliness of the bee.

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<v Speaker 2>Does not what is b e WHOA? What was that?

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<v Speaker 1>But it sounds I don't want to hear more about

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<v Speaker 1>her personal struggle, please, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know what that is. Yeah, eighty degrees in Burbank today.

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<v Speaker 4>I think tomorrow is supposed to be the warmest day

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<v Speaker 4>of the week here in southern California, and then it

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<v Speaker 4>changes significantly again. We'll go back to some potential for

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<v Speaker 4>rain over the weekend, even some snow in the mountains.

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<v Speaker 1>So hey, what's worse do you think on a flight

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<v Speaker 1>sitting next to somebody who's really loud, really chatty, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even belligerent, somebody who's just, oh my god, shut up,

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody who's dead, like, honest to god, dead with

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<v Speaker 1>a blanket over them and you're sitting next to them

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<v Speaker 1>the whole flight.

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<v Speaker 3>I choose dead.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's interesting I reading that story. We'll get into

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<v Speaker 4>it when we do. Terror in the Sky is coming

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<v Speaker 4>up at ten thirty. But I thought about it. It

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<v Speaker 4>depends on where I'm going. I think, why, Well, if

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing a business trip, like if we're flying to

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<v Speaker 4>Chicago to go to a convention, that's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Really a business trip, will go on?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but I got a week of work ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay again not really work, but anyway, go ahead, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I going to King Kun?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you would rather you'd so walk me through your

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<v Speaker 1>your thought process.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, see, rather.

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<v Speaker 1>The dead person going on the business trip and the

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<v Speaker 1>loud guy going to Cancun or what?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Okay, yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because they're not going to harsh my buzz

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<v Speaker 4>if I'm going on a work trip. You're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to harsh my buzz by being dead sitting next to

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<v Speaker 4>me for the two and a half hour flight. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you are dead and you're going to Cancun, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to be thinking about dead people the whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>And like, poor families got to go to Cancun to

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<v Speaker 4>pick up the body, how do they get it back?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the loud, annoying, chatty guy would ruin

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<v Speaker 1>my buzz more than a dead person. A dead person's

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting there, dead, nice and quiet.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you don't have to look at them. They got

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<v Speaker 3>a blanket over their face.

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<v Speaker 2>Because your trajectory, you're going on vacation.

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<v Speaker 4>You're also up and excited about vacation, and that guy

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<v Speaker 4>probably wouldn't you know, you might rise to meet the loud, chatty,

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<v Speaker 4>drunk guy.

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<v Speaker 3>No you won't.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to You're not going to rise to meet him.

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<v Speaker 1>You have nothing in common with him. He's chatting about nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, you're changing.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a guy you're saying that now, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>have anything in common with person.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a guy on the flight when we went

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<v Speaker 1>to Phoenix to see the Savannah bananas, and this guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the row ahead of us, would not sh shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, it's a very quick flight to Phoenix, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what forty five minutes something like that. Very quick flight,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem. But this guy was a loud talker. He

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<v Speaker 1>would not shut up, just talking about inane things to

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting off the plane and I have my noise

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<v Speaker 1>canceling headphones on and I'm still listening to this guy

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<v Speaker 1>just ramble, just will not shut up about the anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So we land, we're getting off the plane and he

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<v Speaker 1>says to the man next to him, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend before super Bowl, right, so this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Friday or Saturday morning before Super Bowl and super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>comes up or whatever is. People are getting off the

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna watch the super Bowl. And the guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the aisles like, yeah, you know, I do like the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>And the chatty guy says the Eagles, Well, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Redskins that are playing. The guy in the aisle goes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's the Eagles, And the chatty guy says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure about that? Because I think like he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to double down on something that the world

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<v Speaker 1>had known for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that he was going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Double down on that and tell that other guy that

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<v Speaker 1>he was wrong despite not having any idea who was

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<v Speaker 1>playing in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's the kind of guy. I would have

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<v Speaker 3>rather had him be dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you have killed him just to shut him up?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm just saying to prove my point.

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<v Speaker 2>That is funny.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a guy sitting behind us at one of

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<v Speaker 4>the spring training games this weekend, and my friend and

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<v Speaker 4>I are longtime baseball fans, so it's and I've gone

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<v Speaker 4>with him to spring training before, and his son was

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<v Speaker 4>with us this time, and his fun son's not a

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<v Speaker 4>U baseball guy, but he's he wanted to hang out

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<v Speaker 4>with us. The kid sits the kid guy sits next

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<v Speaker 4>to us behind us and is just constantly talking the

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<v Speaker 4>entire time about the game and talking about which players

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<v Speaker 4>are good and which players are bad. Why it is

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<v Speaker 4>that Cleveland had to change their name from Indians to Guardians.

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<v Speaker 4>Who you know, Mike Trout, is this and everything, and

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<v Speaker 4>he was just off and I mean, he got about

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<v Speaker 4>seventy percent of it right. But your point is that

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<v Speaker 4>he was adamant. He was adamant about every single point

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<v Speaker 4>that he was making. And every once in a while,

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<v Speaker 4>my friend and I would look at each other and

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<v Speaker 4>just be like, no, got that one wrong, No got

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<v Speaker 4>that one right. But because because because no one else

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<v Speaker 4>would turn and ask him, like, well, they can they

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<v Speaker 4>challenge the play when they're at second base and he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>of course they can, because they have cameras in second base.

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<v Speaker 2>No they don't. They don't do that in spring training.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just stuff like that. But he was very

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<v Speaker 2>very confident about his answers.

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<v Speaker 1>I pray to God that one day I'm the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of person who has patience to not call someone out

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<v Speaker 1>on that, to just sit there politely and be like

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<v Speaker 1>huh okay, you know, and not be like, actually, you're

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<v Speaker 1>wrong because of this, this and this. Well, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was funny, yeah, yeah, exactly same thing, exactly the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a guy sitting right in front of us,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, so he's two rows away, but he can

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<v Speaker 4>hear I mean, the guy is just loud and constantly talking,

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<v Speaker 4>which was annoying. But even this old guy who's sitting

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<v Speaker 4>a season ticket or whatever it is, because he's a

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<v Speaker 4>huge fan. But he moved to Arizona, so he's there

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<v Speaker 4>for every spring training game. Even he was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>Oh jeez, what is this guy talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>And it was great because everything that would have been me,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody in the in the area that kind of knew

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<v Speaker 4>enough about baseball to know that he was wrong about stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We were having a blast. We're just that's more entertaining than.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's funny, that's funny. That's a bonding experience right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>At the bottom of this hour is an interesting look

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<v Speaker 4>at sex torsion scams. You know, you somehow get convinced

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<v Speaker 4>to send somebody some nudes and then they turn around

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<v Speaker 4>and use them against you to try to make money

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<v Speaker 4>off of you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is such a chilling story because you think about

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<v Speaker 1>teenage boys and they have no choice but to be

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<v Speaker 1>dialed into wanting sex.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just nature.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just how boys at that age are programmed into

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about women and the body and there. But like

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing and the fact that there's scammers trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get these kids and then get them to kill themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this isn't the first time we've done this story,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's something that's picking up speed and more and

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<v Speaker 1>more teenage boys are being netted by this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just eating.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's very handle of you. Wow, Holy mackerel. He

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<v Speaker 2>should be ashamed, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the deadline for federal workers that Elon Musk gave

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<v Speaker 1>them was what midnight last night, right. He told federal

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<v Speaker 1>workers last night via x that they did have another

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<v Speaker 1>chance to justify.

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<v Speaker 3>Their work or lose their jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Employees that multiple federal agencies had been told to disregard

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<v Speaker 1>that initial directive.

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<v Speaker 3>The White House kind of backed.

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<v Speaker 1>Off, and he did say that now that they will

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<v Speaker 1>have another chance. He said, failure to respond a second

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<v Speaker 1>time will result in termination. I don't know how he

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<v Speaker 1>would have the power to make that call to terminate

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<v Speaker 1>vast amounts of federal workers like that. But he has

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<v Speaker 1>not provided a new deadline.

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<v Speaker 4>No, and he doesn't have the power to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>But what the And this is again I mentioned this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>This is kind of what he's learned to do from Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>and Trump has learned to do from Musk, which is

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<v Speaker 4>walk in there with a giant sledgehammer and just start

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<v Speaker 4>breaking stuff and see what happens. He doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 4>power to fire anybody, which is why he told everybody

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<v Speaker 4>to see see their direct supervisors on these emails with

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<v Speaker 4>these five bullets. But your point was some of the

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<v Speaker 4>agencies have said don't worry about replying to them. For example,

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<v Speaker 4>Rachel Scott from ABC News says there's confusion now at

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<v Speaker 4>one agency, Health in Human Services.

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<v Speaker 6>The Department of Health and Human Services sent competing messages,

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<v Speaker 6>at first telling employees to respond to the email, then

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<v Speaker 6>six hours later telling them not to respond, and finally

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<v Speaker 6>telling workers they can respond if they want to, but

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<v Speaker 6>warning they should assume that what you write will be

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<v Speaker 6>read by malign foreign actors. And Taylor responds accordingly.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why things like the Department of Justice has

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<v Speaker 3>And you should know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the people who said to ignore the email

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<v Speaker 1>are this, like you said, the Justice Department, the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>If you work for those departments, you probably have enough

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Others including the Department of Transportation, the Education Department,

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<v Speaker 4>And there are some agencies who are like, hey, this

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<v Speaker 4>maybe we start asking people every week.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And like I said yesterday, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>companies that do that already. I mean, I was surprised

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<v Speaker 4>So Trump hosted French President Macron at the White House yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>But this did come up, this email or now I

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<v Speaker 2>Is this the right way to go about doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>He said, it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>We have people that.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't show up to work and nobody even knows if

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<v Speaker 8>they work for the government. So by asking the question,

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<v Speaker 8>is saying are you actually working?

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<v Speaker 8>how badly various parts of our government were run by it,

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<v Speaker 4>And again one of the things that Elon Musk pointed

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<v Speaker 4>or they're not alive, and that this is one of

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<v Speaker 4>the ways that people are, you know, taking advantage of

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<v Speaker 4>the just the largess of a two point three million

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and like we said, it's just so baseline. Send

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<v Speaker 1>five things you did in the past week. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone can do that. We can all everyone listening, we

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<v Speaker 3>Now, yes, it's kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of I understand the thinking of who the hell does

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<v Speaker 1>this guy think he is asking me, being my accountability boss,

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<v Speaker 1>all of this just because he's this billionaire, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>multi billionaire with tons of money, and you know, Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>up on me and what I'm doing and that's between

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that. But just send the email. Just just

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<v Speaker 3>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Have that vent session I would, but then just send

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<v Speaker 1>the emails. It takes you a minute because that way

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<v Speaker 1>you prove you're alive. No one's going to go through

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<v Speaker 1>it with a fine toothed comb. You know, he just said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's make sure people have a pulse and are capable

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<v Speaker 1>of applying to an email. And the vast amount of emails.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know the thousands or hundreds of

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<v Speaker 4>Two three million, they said, okay, like two million roughly,

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<v Speaker 4>because the two point three there may be some who

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<v Speaker 4>of Personnel Management stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So who are the people going through these emails anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this seems like all bluster to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and that's I mean, that's part of the giant

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<v Speaker 4>sledgehammer that they come in with and then kind of

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<v Speaker 4>backfiel the information. They've said that along with the email

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<v Speaker 4>that goes to your direct supervisor, that some of the

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<v Speaker 4>emails would then be scanned by a large language model

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<v Speaker 4>AI to determine if in fact you wrote it yourself

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how they programmed the AI to determine

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<v Speaker 4>whether or not you've justified your work in these five

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<v Speaker 4>bullet points, but it just it does seem like, just

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<v Speaker 4>just do your five bullet points.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop, stop complaining and lighten your hair on.

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<v Speaker 3>Explain all you want, but send the email.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I would do. Complain in the email if

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<v Speaker 2>you like, but still but still do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just send it who you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, listen, this this story.

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<v Speaker 4>We mentioned this, These these sextortion scams that are now

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<v Speaker 4>taking advantage of and targeting, specifically targeting teenage boys. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't think of a better I know everybody went crazy

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<v Speaker 4>when and overreacted when I said I had a nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>point phone contract with my kids. This is exactly the

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<v Speaker 4>kind of thing I never wanted my kids to have

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<v Speaker 7>Hey dang, Shannon love this talk about the airplanes blurgerns

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<v Speaker 7>versus dead And I've been on an airplane where there's

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<v Speaker 7>been a dead person, and I've been on them where

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<v Speaker 7>there's been blurdering people. I'll take the blur jerr one.

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<v Speaker 7>The reason why is you can find a way to

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<v Speaker 7>laugh at them. But also the dead person doesn't just

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<v Speaker 7>there are smells that are unbelievable, And I would just

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<v Speaker 7>for any amount of time on the airplane. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, I didn't think about that part

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<v Speaker 1>the smells and what the body does when it is expired.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, it doesn't necessarily way, but it depends on those lengths.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're on a four hour flight, man that

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<v Speaker 9>Now that football's over. I'd like to go your opinion

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<v Speaker 9>on some viewership stats. So season four of the Real

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<v Speaker 9>Housewives of New York City Tephany Frankls last season of

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<v Speaker 9>course you quit the first.

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<v Speaker 7>Time had almost two million viewers.

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<v Speaker 9>The end of season thirteen with all the O g's

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<v Speaker 9>and fifty thousand viewers, and now the new season two

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<v Speaker 9>and fifty thousand view She's a fifteen OKA like your opinion, Thanks,

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<v Speaker 9>But okay.

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<v Speaker 1>My opinion is this New York City Housewives has always

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<v Speaker 1>been kind of trash. It was good in its infancy,

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<v Speaker 1>like season four was probably peak New York City Housewives,

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<v Speaker 1>but the new people they got are awful, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just I have not I have not found anything about

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<v Speaker 1>them to be interesting or relatable. Maybe it's an East

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<v Speaker 1>coast West coast thing, but I found the first women

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<v Speaker 1>of New York City to be more relatable and interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and a train wreck. But the latest people are just unwatchable.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with the numbers. I'm kind of a loyalist.

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<v Speaker 1>I stick to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and of

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<v Speaker 1>course my favorite Real Housewives of Orange County.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm sorry, Am I still talking about this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>He asked.

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<v Speaker 4>He did, he asked, He asked, Okay, we've talked about

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<v Speaker 4>this technology contract before that. I had both of our

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<v Speaker 4>kids sign before we gave them phones, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>just basic rules about you know, being courteous, put your

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<v Speaker 4>phone down when you're at dinner, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm interested to see though, that was a really

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago. That was that was about ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that phones have what is the right word

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<v Speaker 1>insidiously planted themselves in children and in us has grown

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<v Speaker 1>exponentially in ten years. Just think about yourself alone and

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<v Speaker 1>how much you looked at your phone, touched your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>thought about your phone ten years ago to now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a huge divide. It's a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 1>And while I applaud your contract, I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>this day and age how that is going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I still applaud it, but I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anymore about how how you could do that, how

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<v Speaker 1>you could separate the kid from the phone so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know. They say that teens are

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<v Speaker 1>relying more on online friends than ever. They feel very

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable disclosing information to an online friend that they may

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<v Speaker 1>not tell a physical one. This is not occurring to me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is according to Melissa Strobel. She's a vice president

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<v Speaker 1>of Research and Insights at Thorn. It's a tech nonprofit organization.

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<v Speaker 1>It creates things like your phone contract, creates products to

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<v Speaker 4>That next statistic is what just it should punch people

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty three, more than one in three minors

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<v Speaker 1>reported having an online sexual interaction one in three.

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<v Speaker 4>And you don't when you're that age, you don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what to do with it. I mean, listen, I loved

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<v Speaker 4>your point in the last segment about boys in that

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<v Speaker 4>age range. I mean girls to a degree, but not

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<v Speaker 4>like boys. Boys are just hormones at that point, that's all.

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<v Speaker 4>And they don't know what to do with it, and

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<v Speaker 4>they don't know how to control it, and they don't

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<v Speaker 4>know how to get sex, and they, I mean all

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<v Speaker 4>of these they simply don't know. And then when you

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<v Speaker 4>add the layer of technology to it, where it's not

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<v Speaker 4>just a trickle of sexual information. It's a fire hose

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<v Speaker 4>of sexual information or opportunity. Now it's not real opportunity,

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<v Speaker 4>but it surely feels like it's an opportunity to some

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<v Speaker 1>They say financial sex stortion because this does have.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not just cruel for being the sake of

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<v Speaker 1>cruel and trying to net kids for the sake of

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing them. It's about getting money out of this, like

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<v Speaker 1>all good cruks want to do, it's to extort people

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<v Speaker 1>using their emotions. Unfortunate, all of this interaction online with

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<v Speaker 1>kids and adults makes it that much easier. Financial sex

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<v Speaker 1>stortion is the fastest growing cybercrime targeting children in America.

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<v Speaker 3>It has been around.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably for decades, but in years past people didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>it has exploded, because what did the pandemic do? It

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<v Speaker 1>put us in our rooms, if her kids in their

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<v Speaker 1>rooms and on their screens, and we can talk to

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<v Speaker 1>we're blue in the face about how detrimental that was

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<v Speaker 1>and how detrimental.

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<v Speaker 3>It will be for their probably entire lives.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is one of the things that was able

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean your point.

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<v Speaker 4>It cemented the necessity of having the device around all

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<v Speaker 4>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>It made it okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It told your kids it's okay to go in your

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<v Speaker 1>room and be on your screens all day because that's

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<v Speaker 1>where you're learning. Do you think they were learning the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time? Probably not, listen. I'm not a parent, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. To me, it looks like it takes

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<v Speaker 1>more energy than I'll ever have in my entire life

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<v Speaker 1>all put together, for one day of being a parent.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get how it would be easier for me

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<v Speaker 1>to know that my kid is in their room and

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<v Speaker 1>they're learning, and they're doing all their zoom classes and

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<v Speaker 1>whatever and cool, I won't even think about it, But

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<v Speaker 1>what else is going on in there? And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>parents' fault, you know, all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like we all.

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<v Speaker 1>Said as a society to kids, it's okay to be

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<v Speaker 1>on your screens for freaking twelve hours a day because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the only way you're going to learn.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you're giving them okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when we were growing up playing video games,

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<v Speaker 1>where like we knew that it was fun, we felt

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe there might be something wrong with it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>after an hour of playing Super Mario Brothers, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of felt like I was being a little too decatent,

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<v Speaker 1>Like is there something wrong with me watching the screen

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<v Speaker 1>for so long? Probably like you had that ingrained in you.

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<v Speaker 1>We said it was okay for them to just look

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<v Speaker 1>at screens for that long.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it doesn't it's you can't go back on that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's hard to pull them away once you've took.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an addiction and now it has Now it has roots.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been talking about this, this big headline that came

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<v Speaker 4>out today from USA today regarding nude photo scams that

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<v Speaker 4>target these teenage boys, and there repairs to be.

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<v Speaker 1>A script like it's a lot of it's from Nigeria,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the new version of the Prints that

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<v Speaker 1>needs your mom's.

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<v Speaker 4>Help, right, and it's it starts out innocently enough, where

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you get a message from somebody that says

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<v Speaker 4>something like, hey, I found your page through some friends

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<v Speaker 4>and we should we should hang out, we should talk

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<v Speaker 4>chat whatever it is, and then the bad person, boy, girl, whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>the predator will then drive the conversation to sex pretty quickly,

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<v Speaker 4>and then in a lot of cases, just send unsolicited nudes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, for a boy, most of the time they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to entice him with naked pictures of a young girl.

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<v Speaker 4>So then they entice the boy. Hey, send me some

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<v Speaker 4>nudes of yourself once they.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, boys, women aren't built the same way

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<v Speaker 1>you are men.

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<v Speaker 3>Boys are more visual people.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Teenage girls are not going to be clamoring to

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<v Speaker 1>see pictures of you naked.

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<v Speaker 3>That's never going to be a thing. It's never going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but again, they're playing to the boy's fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but I'm just saying that's not a thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>women are dying to see what your penis looks. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just not a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me tell you. It's hard to turn off that fantasy.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I'm just trying to get it out

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<v Speaker 1>there as a PSA.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>The brain works very differently.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as you think that you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>a girl, that you want to see a girl naked

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<v Speaker 1>or her parts or what have you. That is that

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<v Speaker 1>is one hundred percent accurate in the way your brain works.

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<v Speaker 1>If a girl is clamoring to see you, there should

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<v Speaker 1>be a red flag that goes up in your head.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's when the blackmail starts, because the scammers will say,

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<v Speaker 4>now I've got everything I need to blackmail you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got everything to ruin your life.

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<v Speaker 4>I have all of the screenshots of your followers and

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<v Speaker 4>the tags everybody who comments on your post, your WhatsApp

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<v Speaker 4>contact list, whatever it is, and I'm going to send

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<v Speaker 4>these images to them, or you're going to send me money,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the two things that happens. But again, the

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<v Speaker 4>things to watch out for is very very First of all,

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<v Speaker 4>not if it goes to sex right away, it's too

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<v Speaker 4>good to be true.

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<v Speaker 3>But again to.

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<v Speaker 1>Your point, how do you tell a teenage boy that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the fantasy that's like, oh my god, it went

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<v Speaker 1>to sex right away, Yes, this is the mecca.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They also they call it a romance scam on steroids

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<v Speaker 1>that within an hour these images are exchanged and within

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<v Speaker 1>an hour they're demanding mone I mean the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>from start to finish, from is this really happening to

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<v Speaker 1>this is happening to you? Give me money or else

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<v Speaker 1>I tell your parents and I share this with your

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<v Speaker 1>with your sister and your brother, all happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Within an hour, we got a comment from somebody.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi.

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<v Speaker 5>Gary and Shannon, my twenty five year old son got

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<v Speaker 5>caught up in this scam. The woman in quotes sent

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<v Speaker 5>a picture of herself. He of course reciprocated. The next

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<v Speaker 5>thing I know, he's calling me, freaking out that this

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<v Speaker 5>person was going to spread his photos through all of

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<v Speaker 5>his WhatsApp contacts. I reassured him that probably this was

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<v Speaker 5>a scam and happening to other people. Of course, nothing

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<v Speaker 5>other came out of it, but it was a great

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<v Speaker 5>lesson for him to learn, and he never will do

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<v Speaker 5>it again.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a hard lesson to learn. Thankfully, this guy

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<v Speaker 4>was able to get away and didn't have all these

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<v Speaker 4>images out there. There are tools now that exist to

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<v Speaker 4>help kind of claw back some of those images from

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<v Speaker 4>the internet, but it is a hard, hard job to

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<v Speaker 4>get all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that she called in and said that he

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty five, because I was thinking about my my

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<v Speaker 1>comment about girl girls do not want to see pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of men naked or boys naked. I can definitely attest

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<v Speaker 1>to that. I think probably I would have said before

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<v Speaker 1>I heard her call and her comment that women about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five probably, I think that's a safe age to

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<v Speaker 1>say they might want to start seeing it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>but girls who are in high school they want nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to they don't want to know what's what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>there for the most part ever, ever, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just not it's just not something that I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what raised.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said, we are brains.

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<v Speaker 1>You thought in high school that girls wanted to see

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<v Speaker 1>you naked?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, that's not That's not what I'm saying. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just I don't thinking. Okay, if you did thought to it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just I'm just saying they did not.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't see any I don't know any girls who

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<v Speaker 4>snuck looks at Playgirl magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, exactly my point? Yeah, exact, Thank you Bingo.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, the Wildfire Reacher.

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<v Speaker 3>I was at.

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<v Speaker 1>Least thirty until I got into Playgirl, and then after

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<v Speaker 1>that Watch Out Look.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, now I got like sixteen subscriptions.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the Wildfire Recovery costs and whether or not we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be ready for the Olympics that's coming up next.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been

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<v Speaker 4>listening to the Gary and Shannon Show. You can always

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<v Speaker 4>hear us live on KFI AM six forty nine am

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<v Speaker 4>to one pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime on

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