Speaker 1: Oh, Bed of the Aar, Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I'm the Cajun Night.
Speaker 1: And today we have on a very special.
Speaker 2: Guest, a friend of a friend, if you will, that
Speaker 2: has been making his rounds in the podcasting guys of
Speaker 2: mutual Friends, and it was about time for us to
Speaker 2: get him on. Mister Fox from the Gray Horned Pagan podcast. Brother,
Speaker 2: welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. It's it's a pleasure. And yeah,
Speaker 3: a friend of her friend is accurate. It's like, it's
Speaker 3: it's awesome. Liked.
Speaker 4: I saw you on Heidie's and so he loves and
Speaker 4: so I was like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's she's amazing.
Speaker 1: Heidi is phenomenal. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: We saw you on Trebles, we saw you on Heidie's
Speaker 2: and it's like, listen, if this guy is any friend
Speaker 2: of theirs, he's clearly a friend of ours.
Speaker 1: We have to have a sit down for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. No, I mean that's just getting to
Speaker 3: know all the awesome podcasters.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed. So how long have you been in the
Speaker 1: podcast game? Dog?
Speaker 3: Oh, I want to say like coming up on five
Speaker 3: years now. Okay, really started during the beginning of the
Speaker 3: covid E for sure, even though it was only five
Speaker 3: years basically basically an era. I really started out as
Speaker 3: a podcast listener, like I had to take fucking odd
Speaker 3: jobs here and there because I lost my job obviously,
Speaker 3: and you know, after listening to the same playlist for
Speaker 3: like weeks on ends two three, ten times a day,
Speaker 3: I kind of got sick of it. And you know,
Speaker 3: like I heard about podcasting, I I you know, never
Speaker 3: really knew what it what it was, so started listening
Speaker 3: to podcasts. Found some amazing like occult podcasts like My
Speaker 3: Third Eye with Ghosts and of course Cold Rejects with
Speaker 3: with Nick or Nick and.
Speaker 2: His he's got like he's got multiple post now, but yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah he was.
Speaker 3: He was still on with Looks at the time, so
Speaker 3: imagine how long ago that was. And yeah, just started
Speaker 3: out as a as a guest with with My Third
Speaker 3: Eye actually talking about Tartaria, which is still one of
Speaker 3: my favorite rabbit holes to go down to.
Speaker 1: Very cool.
Speaker 4: I think I've talked Buddy and Yet about this. I've
Speaker 4: only been doing this for a few months with the
Speaker 4: cole He's been doing this for five years, so like,
Speaker 4: I don't think i've actually got to hear anybody go
Speaker 4: down this rabbit hole. I actually really like that rabbit
Speaker 4: hole too, So it's.
Speaker 3: It's absolutely fascinating, and there is like there's so much
Speaker 3: that then that can be connected to it, and so
Speaker 3: many well I mean different kind of conspiracies, timelines, religions,
Speaker 3: like just everything really and a special connection to the
Speaker 3: Dutch of course.
Speaker 2: Now I actually haven't heard that before. So me and
Speaker 2: Jonathan did an episode on Tartaria. I want to say
Speaker 2: those maybe even last year. For years we asked for
Speaker 2: someone to come on the show and speak, as you know,
Speaker 2: even if it's a pseudo subject matter expert, somebody that
Speaker 2: had done some real deep dive is into it and
Speaker 2: could give a good, you know speech on it. And
Speaker 2: eventually we just say, you know what, fuck it, We'll
Speaker 2: just do an episode. And I think we actually teamed
Speaker 2: up on it. He worked on it from his angle.
Speaker 2: I worked on it from my angle, and you know,
Speaker 2: me being more of the document based, historical based type
Speaker 2: of person, I found a lot of references to the Tartars,
Speaker 2: which is what we would call modern day Mongolia, and
Speaker 2: how the Tartarian Empire was a thing at one point.
Speaker 2: But we would now call that like just the far
Speaker 2: East in totality, And there was a lot of things
Speaker 2: as far as the history behind that, like the Mongols
Speaker 2: came from Tartaria kind of thing. But then for some reason,
Speaker 2: the Tartaria conversation blends with a mud flood conversation and
Speaker 2: I've never been able to make that connection.
Speaker 1: And then the.
Speaker 2: Mud flood to old buildings that people don't believe. There's
Speaker 2: no way they could have built this. This the science
Speaker 2: is eighteen forty five. There's no way they could have
Speaker 2: built in eighteen forty five. And I'm like, brother, there's pictures,
Speaker 2: like actual pictures of them constructing it. But like that's
Speaker 2: the thing. It's like there's multiple rabbit holes to go
Speaker 2: down on this one.
Speaker 3: And yeah, timeline deceptions, sure, you know, so many, so
Speaker 3: many different kind of kind of things. And the timeline
Speaker 3: deception is I mean, first of all, the connection to
Speaker 3: the Dutch. It was the former seven time mayor of Amsterdam,
Speaker 3: I forget his name, some old Dutch name, who was
Speaker 3: the first one to actually map the Kingdom of Tartaria.
Speaker 1: How long are we talking, like seventeen.
Speaker 3: Definitely seventeen hundreds. Yeah, I have his I have his book.
Speaker 3: I have his his diary that he he wrote at
Speaker 3: the time, and it is it's a tough read because
Speaker 3: it's written in seventeen hundreds Dutch.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's very different than modern Dutch, very similar
Speaker 2: to like Old English versus Modern English.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, kind of. I mean I can with some effort,
Speaker 3: like I'm able to understand it, but it's it's not
Speaker 3: an easy read. Like seventeenth century Dutch is very very different,
Speaker 3: very different spelling and like word combinations that or that
Speaker 3: our combinations that we we don't use anymore.
Speaker 4: So it's interesting the word. Yeah, the language has changed
Speaker 4: so much.
Speaker 3: It has it has and you know, like speaking of
Speaker 3: like Middle English, I believe like even that is pretty
Speaker 3: close to the the Frisian language, and Frisia being one
Speaker 3: of the northern provinces of the Netherlands. So this is
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 1: A sorry, it's like a Flemish based.
Speaker 3: No, Flemish is Flemish is kind of another derivative of
Speaker 3: of Dutch, that's that's Belgian. And then it's same as
Speaker 3: South African for example, or of Gans. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 3: I know an African shaman actually, and we can kind
Speaker 3: of converse in Dutch there is some language barrier because
Speaker 3: Afrikaans is I mean it developed separately of course, like
Speaker 3: from like pretty much eighteen hundred's Dutch because that's when
Speaker 3: you know, like peak colonization times. But yeah, Middle English
Speaker 3: and like Frisian like peak, you know, Frisian, it's similar there.
Speaker 3: There is a there is a video going around of
Speaker 3: a gentleman going up to a Frisian farmer and talking
Speaker 3: to him in Middle English, and the Frisian farmer is
Speaker 3: you know, he's kind of like, hey, you know, it
Speaker 3: sounds very familiar, and they can have a conversation with
Speaker 3: each other with like minimal language barrier. But all the
Speaker 3: all the Germanic languages and Anglo Saxon therefore are you know,
Speaker 3: they have the same root language in proto Indo European.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your English is phenomenal, by the way, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you. I mean, I'm seeing a lot more Europeans
Speaker 2: that are there English in totality that like a British
Speaker 2: based or anything. Just I guess it's kind of a
Speaker 2: mixture of the Internet plus culture. It's a lot of
Speaker 2: Europeans are almost speaking American English.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell a little bit of an accent,
Speaker 1: but that is a thing.
Speaker 4: Maybe better than a lot of Americans.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean we got taught English from a from a
Speaker 3: very young age. Also in school, and like as soon
Speaker 3: as we're we're going to high school at you know,
Speaker 3: twelve years old, and we get taught of course Dutch,
Speaker 3: English and French, and then in second grades German comes
Speaker 3: along with that, and then like optional depending on the
Speaker 3: level of that you're doing, its Latin, Greek, and Spanish optional.
Speaker 2: I believe I have heard this about Dutch schools that
Speaker 2: y'all learn like five languages before you graduate, and I
Speaker 2: was thinking, like, there's no fucking way, no.
Speaker 3: We do.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 3: But the Netherlands has always been been a country of trades.
Speaker 3: Now like we're we're only what like half our flights
Speaker 3: have a day boat rides away from the United Kingdom.
Speaker 3: We have Germany next to us, where what like maybe
Speaker 3: three hours drive removed from France doing a lot of
Speaker 3: business with the with the US of course, so you know,
Speaker 3: it's always been very very important for you know, for
Speaker 3: the Dutch to to know multiple languages, or at least
Speaker 3: to you know, understand and be able to converse in
Speaker 3: multiple languages. Like we don't have to speak it perfectly,
Speaker 3: just you know, good enough at least.
Speaker 1: No doubt.
Speaker 4: Well, we get most Americans got one. That's about it.
Speaker 4: We don't and we we have optional to take like
Speaker 4: you know, a few different languages. But let's be really honest,
Speaker 4: most Americans don't speak more than one language, which really
Speaker 4: sucks because everybody else seems to be able to speak
Speaker 4: at least two, if not more. And just it's just us.
Speaker 3: I mean, my my wife is is American, so that
Speaker 3: also really helps. And there are times that my English
Speaker 3: is is better than hers that I am I as
Speaker 3: a as a born Dutchman, am correcting her English.
Speaker 4: Us you do speak proper, so I will say, like
Speaker 4: there's yeah, you have a lot better English than a
Speaker 4: lot of people, honestly, because we we have a lot
Speaker 4: of slang and slurring of words and different accents throughout
Speaker 4: the States. Though just depends on where you're at, apparently.
Speaker 3: Well, but you know, I mean that's that's that's a
Speaker 3: thing worldwide, like we have her own you know, different
Speaker 3: accents depending on the on the region and on the city.
Speaker 3: Even you know, north of the Alans is very different
Speaker 3: from the south of the Netherlands. Even the economic center like, no,
Speaker 3: two towns have the same accent, but it's all Dutch
Speaker 3: unless you go more like you know, street lingo and
Speaker 3: all that. Sure, I don't busy myself with that.
Speaker 1: Got you all right, So let's let's get into the
Speaker 1: oka ahead, Raven.
Speaker 4: Oh, I totally wanted to go down the Tartaria rabbit hole.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. I wanted to hear his all
Speaker 4: of his information on it because I was like, man,
Speaker 4: we actually have somebody to talk about this, so.
Speaker 3: I can I can definitely think of some things from
Speaker 3: the top of my head. I'll have to, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of Oh.
Speaker 4: If I put you on the spot, don't worry about
Speaker 4: you can talk about anything.
Speaker 3: Else you want. It's all right.
Speaker 4: Like like I said, I like that rabbit hole. So
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 3: I have to effect check myself every now and then probably,
Speaker 3: but yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to give out the wrong information. But yeah,
Speaker 3: there is. There's there's so much interesting stuff to it.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I mean so I would love to hear more.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, like, where where do you guys want
Speaker 3: to start?
Speaker 1: Explain? Explain them.
Speaker 3: The mud flood? Well, that's it. It can be connected
Speaker 3: to to multiple things, but the the most common, the
Speaker 3: most common explanation is Bible related from the Biblical stories,
Speaker 3: because the Bible talks about fervent heat coming from above,
Speaker 3: and especially if you look at some of the some
Speaker 3: of the buildings in Turkey, like the Turkey Syria border.
Speaker 1: I believe these ancient settlements.
Speaker 3: Yeah, these these very ancient settlements. Some buildings in particular
Speaker 3: really look like candles, but like you know that are
Speaker 3: being melted from from above, and yeah, just the the incredible,
Speaker 3: incredible heat. There are also more conspiracy conspiratorial theories that
Speaker 3: it's like you know, like ancient you know d w s,
Speaker 3: there are energy weapons. I mean we don't know, we
Speaker 3: don't know that, you know, like technology is behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: is way further at than you know as consumers gut.
Speaker 3: But and in especially also in America, Southern America, it's
Speaker 3: sometimes connected to the dust Bowl as well, that after
Speaker 3: the dust Ball there were just these these giant like
Speaker 3: flooding rains and dust and a lot of rain creates
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of mud. But the most
Speaker 3: common explanations are just these incredible heat like literally melting
Speaker 3: the the soil or you know, just like it bubbling
Speaker 3: up from from the surface and like covering everything and anything.
Speaker 3: And it's with a lot of archaeological digs. There are
Speaker 3: pictures of Russia and Canada. I believe that they're doing
Speaker 3: like archaeological digs or you know, like building a new
Speaker 3: extension to a highway or something, and that they find
Speaker 3: that with some of these buildings, hotels, mostly like the
Speaker 3: larger buildings, that there's a whole floor well, that the
Speaker 3: ground floor is basically under the ground. So what they're
Speaker 3: saying is the the you know, the first floor ground
Speaker 3: floor is really you know, the first one, and that
Speaker 3: the ground floor is really like underground. Good example of
Speaker 3: that you also see in Amsterdam, for example. And one
Speaker 3: of the main well actual enemies of Amsterdam's always been
Speaker 3: water because.
Speaker 2: Which y'all's damn system is a feat of engineering and
Speaker 2: the fact that it was.
Speaker 1: Built in the time frame that it was.
Speaker 2: Y'all, the people of Amsterdam have been battling a war
Speaker 2: against water since the beginning.
Speaker 3: And one day to the Netherlands.
Speaker 2: Right right, and one day this dude was like, you
Speaker 2: know what, this is gonna sound fucking crazy, but hear
Speaker 2: me out, We're going to do this correctly using our
Speaker 2: natural elements to our advantage. And I just have a
Speaker 2: weird feeling it's going to stand the test of the time.
Speaker 2: And and they're the fuck y'are you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: We we built Amsterdam literally on wooden poles. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: drove just shipload of wooden poles into the ground and
Speaker 3: used that to lay our foundation on. So that's why
Speaker 3: water is. It's one of our greatest allies. It's one
Speaker 3: of our greatest enemies. So the uh, the three axis
Speaker 3: in the the.
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 3: The Herald of Amsterdam, the heroic shields of Amsterdam's fort,
Speaker 3: the three main enemies of Amsterdam being fire because you know,
Speaker 3: they were all wooden houses racked down, very densely packed,
Speaker 3: so you know, one house ablaze is a whole neighborhood
Speaker 3: of blaze. Basically water because you know the netherleents, Yeah,
Speaker 3: most of our countries below sea level. And the plague
Speaker 3: of course, which killed just about like seventy to eighty
Speaker 3: percent of Europe.
Speaker 4: Like how you just like the plague? No?
Speaker 2: I actually like that. That's kind of badass. What's on
Speaker 2: your what's on your nation's crest? The three biggest enemies
Speaker 2: we've ever faced, you know, pump shit sice crested.
Speaker 3: Our nation's crest is the the lion.
Speaker 1: Oh go go go hell yeah.
Speaker 3: The Dutch lion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, that's fucking tail griffindor house over there.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean, we used to have lions here. Actually,
Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't just you know, just Africa or India.
Speaker 3: That's why in Germany, for example, there have been figures
Speaker 3: found of lion headed man which are which have some
Speaker 3: you know, shamanic meaning of course, but yeah, we used
Speaker 3: to we used to actually have have lions here. But yeah,
Speaker 3: the the mudflood, it has, it has a bunch of
Speaker 3: different meanings, and it's you know, some say it's it's natural,
Speaker 3: it's biblical, you know, direct energy weapons. Either way, it
Speaker 3: has literally buried a whole lots of our our history,
Speaker 3: buried entire entire buildings, entire foods. That's what I was
Speaker 3: getting up with the Amsterdam stuff.
Speaker 4: A lot of it was from it was from originally
Speaker 4: from that guy Peter, right, Peter what was his name, uh,
Speaker 4: Peter the Great? He like had that whole thing about
Speaker 4: how he dug out the city and didn't actually build it,
Speaker 4: and yet Petersburg the theory suggests, yes, Saint Peter wasn't constructed,
Speaker 4: that he actually dug it out and then added on
Speaker 4: to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's that's where a lot of these, uh, these theories
Speaker 3: go that found it didn't mean that they erected it,
Speaker 3: but they literally found it at that time.
Speaker 4: It's interesting. I've I've looked into it before. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of pictures that they've I've seen that I don't
Speaker 4: know are actually real or not, but they look real
Speaker 4: of locations where you can see the buildings stacked on
Speaker 4: top of each other and stuff, and it looks like
Speaker 4: there is an entire civilization down below.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that's that's that's really cool. I hope you
Speaker 3: can still hear me, by the way, because my screen
Speaker 3: is absolutely freezing up.
Speaker 4: We can hear, we can hear you, just good. We
Speaker 4: just can't see your well, we can see you frozen,
Speaker 4: but we can hear you good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hold up, let me Actually I'm trying to switch
Speaker 3: camera and see what that what that does because I'm
Speaker 3: tired of this this camera freezing up. No, but uh, okay,
Speaker 3: qualities a little less.
Speaker 1: But that's all good now.
Speaker 2: But to your point about ancient cataclysms of some type
Speaker 2: and these melting buildings. So have you ever looked into Mahindra.
Speaker 3: Daro uh No? I can't say that I have.
Speaker 2: So it is the as of now, as of what
Speaker 2: we are thinking. The oldest I want to use the
Speaker 2: term Samarian like an Indo Asian settlement, and it was
Speaker 2: actually found by accident. These dudes are going through the
Speaker 2: area between India and Pakistan.
Speaker 1: It's pretty barren and there's this old.
Speaker 2: They think it's like a Buddhist tepe that's out here
Speaker 2: in the middle of everything. They go out and do
Speaker 2: a little bit of excavation around it and they realize, no,
Speaker 2: that's not a Buddhist thing. This is the very tippy
Speaker 2: top of a very large settlement. And if for the timelines,
Speaker 2: they're saying, there's no way that they thought a settlement
Speaker 2: could house this many people for the day and age
Speaker 2: that it was. The crazy thing is a lot of
Speaker 2: these buildings look like one side of them the clay
Speaker 2: brick was turned to glass and it's only on one
Speaker 2: side of these buildings. And they're also like they didn't
Speaker 2: have the technology or per are understanding, per the educational understanding,
Speaker 2: they didn't have the technology to turn clay brick into
Speaker 2: actual glass, like the glassification of this material, and then
Speaker 2: the fact that it's only on one side of this building.
Speaker 1: It looks a lot like what we would see.
Speaker 2: From a low grade nuclear bomb exploding, and they couldn't
Speaker 2: figure that shit either. Then come to find out there
Speaker 2: is an old Hindu story of this, uh from the
Speaker 2: rick Vados, you know where I'm going with this, this
Speaker 2: weapon that they don't know. Was it a gift from
Speaker 2: the gods, was it an energy blast, whatever the fuck,
Speaker 2: but there's a legend that.
Speaker 1: It was only used one time.
Speaker 2: Then we find this city that lines up to give
Speaker 2: or take around the time where that legend might have
Speaker 2: come from. So they're thinking that, and then they found
Speaker 2: some skeletal remains of some people and their radiation levels
Speaker 2: are like five times higher than what they should be,
Speaker 2: And it's like, Okay, yeah, what what the fuck we're
Speaker 2: talking about here?
Speaker 1: We have an ancient nuke conversation.
Speaker 2: So as far as what you're saying, these older buildings
Speaker 2: that look like they have some like meltage going on
Speaker 2: and some burning that's going on, and that doesn't exactly
Speaker 2: line up with what we know of historical narratives. There
Speaker 2: is a documented scholarly precedents for this, although that's led
Speaker 2: to more questions and answers.
Speaker 1: But for sure it's a thing, no.
Speaker 3: And that's that's also the reason why why Oppenheimer, the
Speaker 3: father of the atomic bomb, modern atomic bomb, right, say,
Speaker 3: why he he quoted Zarathustra. Yep, who is the god
Speaker 3: that you know, appeared in the in the rick Vedas,
Speaker 3: who is said to you know, to have access to
Speaker 3: such a such a weapon. And I can totally understand why.
Speaker 3: You know, back in those those early early days, you
Speaker 3: would think that it's some some gift or even curse
Speaker 3: of the gods, because it's, you know, just the huge
Speaker 3: explosion life. Everything is destroyed. I mean, that is some
Speaker 3: you know power that that cannot be man made, you know,
Speaker 3: until we until we did it right, But yeah, you
Speaker 3: know it's it's literally, thus spoke Zarathustra. Now I've become death,
Speaker 3: destroyer of worlds?
Speaker 1: Was it was it Kali or.
Speaker 3: Zarathustra. Zarathustra who has a who has of course a
Speaker 3: connection to Zoroastrianism, which is uh in later form evolved
Speaker 3: into Mithraism, which Christianity also took a.
Speaker 1: Lot from no doubt.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: All right, so the Tartaria conversation, we got mud flood,
Speaker 2: and there's a couple of different backstories as to how
Speaker 2: and why mud flood happened. And then as far as
Speaker 2: the Tartaria conversation, I've always heard that, Like, like I
Speaker 2: brought up earlier, it's the far East, the Mongolian Empire,
Speaker 2: southeast of Russia nor China. That area was classified as
Speaker 2: Tartaria very broadly because most Europeans had never traveled there,
Speaker 2: so they didn't exactly know what was going on over there.
Speaker 2: They just kind of all lumped it in under that
Speaker 2: banner for lack of better words.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was from the very very north of Russia
Speaker 3: to I believe at least the Black Sea, you know, indeed,
Speaker 3: stretching to Mongolia. That's There's also theories that the Great
Speaker 3: Wall of China, for example, you know, if it's a
Speaker 3: defensive wall, then you know the defensive part is on
Speaker 3: the wrong side of it.
Speaker 1: I've heard that too, Yeah, so same.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not sure. I actually I walked on
Speaker 3: the on the Great Wall of China.
Speaker 4: I'm jealous, massive so jealous. I want to say it
Speaker 4: so bad.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's massive, and it's it's so funny to
Speaker 3: look at like you have. All those Western tourists were
Speaker 3: like like really careful, you know, step by step, and
Speaker 3: there's just a bunch of Chinese, you know, yeah, walking
Speaker 3: and running over it like it smelfing. We're just like
Speaker 3: afraid to fall to our deaths, and they just they don't.
Speaker 1: Care to that point about it being the wrong side.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've never been, but from the pictures that I have seen,
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you which side is the defensive side. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I've heard this from people I cannot verify.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to look up the translation for this
Speaker 3: word actually, because I don't think I've.
Speaker 1: Ever heard, but the Dutch the English translation, Yeah, not
Speaker 1: the ramparts of well, describe what you're thinking, what you're
Speaker 1: trying to say here.
Speaker 3: Well, it's the the like what you see on top
Speaker 3: of the on top of the towers, theres that they
Speaker 3: sorry turrets. Yeah. I believe, Yeah, I believe that maybe
Speaker 3: maybe the turists or.
Speaker 4: They're able to like pretty much they look out and
Speaker 4: monitor and they're able to, like the defensive position.
Speaker 3: Hide behind it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're talking about the wall where it does
Speaker 2: like this a bunch and you're supposed to hide behind
Speaker 2: the brick. That's called a uh that's called a parapet
Speaker 2: mm hmm. But if you're yeah, or a rampart is
Speaker 2: another way they say that. But a turret is more
Speaker 2: like if you see a castle's got a big thing
Speaker 2: on the corner, that's a turret.
Speaker 1: So you could get like a three.
Speaker 3: Right right, Like yeah, okay, I mean that's that's stuff.
Speaker 3: Like I never mentioned English words for our conversation for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, absolutely no. But it's said that you know,
Speaker 3: if you want those to be uh defensive, then they
Speaker 3: should you know, of course face the enemy, you know,
Speaker 3: like defense. Well no offensive, I should say, because you
Speaker 3: hide behind it, then you know you shoot and you'll hide.
Speaker 3: So if they're on, yeah, sorry, that's that's.
Speaker 4: My cats love our show. I swear we always get
Speaker 4: the cats up.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I mean, he's he's my he's my
Speaker 3: kiddy co host. It really doesn't matter what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: He's just like a simple recording or whatever. He's like,
Speaker 3: oh we're doing something, Okay, I'm here, now the show
Speaker 3: can go on.
Speaker 1: The attraction is here, Okay, those those.
Speaker 3: Should be there, should be offensive those, so they should
Speaker 3: be on the you know, on the side facing the
Speaker 3: the Mongolians, not the not the other side. So they
Speaker 3: the theory is that you know, because they are on
Speaker 3: the wrong side, that they're not you know, they weren't
Speaker 3: trying to you know, keep people out, but like keep
Speaker 3: them in because China, the Chinese Empire has always been
Speaker 3: incredibly vast, has been incredibly you know, versatile as well.
Speaker 3: Like technologically speaking, they were were and probably still are
Speaker 3: way more advanced than than we are. Like, you know,
Speaker 3: we were still kind of I mean, this is this
Speaker 3: is not exactly true, but as a as an ex couple,
Speaker 3: like we were still living in caves when they already
Speaker 3: had you know, fireworks and such. So like I can
Speaker 3: imagine from a technologically less developed nation or empire that
Speaker 3: you would like to keep those people in because you're
Speaker 3: you're not gonna you're not gonna win it when it
Speaker 3: comes to a battle, right.
Speaker 2: But then they were only using it for fireworks, not
Speaker 2: cannons that always killed me. Then they finally were like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, we could use this for something else.
Speaker 2: There was like years years of a gap where because
Speaker 2: I mean they they developed gunpowder because they were trying
Speaker 2: to develop the Philosopher's stone. Basically, they were trying to
Speaker 2: find a way to live forever. And I mean it
Speaker 2: makes sense. Saltpeter that was used for medicines. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: sulfur that was used in medicines. They mixed these things
Speaker 2: together by a fire one day. It's like, whoa, Okay,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, we could do some shit with this.
Speaker 2: Then they made the fireworks and they're like, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, what if we were to launch
Speaker 2: this shit at some people. That sounds wild, but like,
Speaker 2: let's just try it out. And yeah, that was That
Speaker 2: was a whole thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's one of the first things that we
Speaker 3: do with new technologies, right, how can we use it
Speaker 3: to kill people? That?
Speaker 1: Yes, I was listening to somebody the other day talk
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: The aliens came down hypothetically and they're like, so you
Speaker 2: got this magic rock and all you've learned how to
Speaker 2: do was boil water and blow each other up with it.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I mean, what else were we supposed to
Speaker 1: do with it?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 1: That's what we do.
Speaker 2: It's like all and this is not a fun truth,
Speaker 2: but it is still a truth. The vast majority of
Speaker 2: technological advancements within human culture from the beginning now has
Speaker 2: been at the behest of warfare, either to kill each
Speaker 2: other or to repair people coming back from the battlefield.
Speaker 2: And then people find a way to like, you know,
Speaker 2: make subreddits of that to use for civilian markets and
Speaker 2: things like that. But that's kind of how we've done
Speaker 2: business for thousands of years.
Speaker 3: Yes, supposedly, yeah, and you know, even those thousands of
Speaker 3: years may not have been thousands of years, because that's
Speaker 3: another thing with these these buildings, you know, and you know,
Speaker 3: like speaking of the timeline, you Raven already mentioned it
Speaker 3: that they you know, he dug it up, he found it,
Speaker 3: founded it, whatever. And there are examples, great examples of
Speaker 3: it in my hometown where, you know, if it says
Speaker 3: like eighteen I don't know, like eighteen seventy six, then
Speaker 3: the one or what is supposedly supposedly a one will
Speaker 3: represent more of a like an I or a J.
Speaker 3: But they tell us like, no, that's that's the one.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, no, no, Like if I'm if I'm
Speaker 3: typing my name out on the computer, there is an
Speaker 3: eye in a J in it. I do think that,
Speaker 3: you know, I at least know what it looks like,
Speaker 3: and that's not a one.
Speaker 2: So what would the significance be about that? Is it
Speaker 2: like aline?
Speaker 3: That's supposedly it's the I or J would send for
Speaker 3: Jesus or Eesu, and so like the eight seventy six
Speaker 3: would be eighteen seventy six, but eight seventy six after Eyasu.
Speaker 3: So the the thousand year reign of Christ, which according
Speaker 3: to these theories has already happened, and that we are
Speaker 3: now in the little season in which Satan roams free
Speaker 3: and is able to deceive the nations and you know,
Speaker 3: try to lure us to eternal damnation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had some guests on talk about, you know,
Speaker 2: how we're living in Satan's little season.
Speaker 1: Now. I hear the talking points.
Speaker 2: Respectfully, I have a different opinion on our timeline.
Speaker 1: Than they do, but I definitely hear what they're talking about.
Speaker 2: But as far as as far as the buildings and
Speaker 2: the dates go, like you're talking about, now, that's interesting
Speaker 2: that they would use and then the year as opposed
Speaker 2: to what we might use as ad right or a
Speaker 2: year of our Lord or something like this. So that
Speaker 2: throwing that one or a J, which I mean, to
Speaker 2: your point, Esu versus Jesus. I mean in the Hebrew language,
Speaker 2: there's no J. So Joseph and Jesus both started with
Speaker 2: an I. So if that is indeed the case, that
Speaker 2: would be a D eight hundred and forty whatever instead
Speaker 2: of eighteen forty. That is a wild jump. But also
Speaker 2: I could see how that connection could be made for sure.
Speaker 3: And I mean, at the very least with the constant
Speaker 3: switching of the of the calendars. You know, the most
Speaker 3: two most well known examples of the more modern times,
Speaker 3: let's say, being the Julian and the Gregorian, or at
Speaker 3: least missing a few hundred years. I believe it's three
Speaker 3: fifty three fifty something years that were kind of missing
Speaker 3: with the switching of the calendar. So even you know,
Speaker 3: the year twenty twenty six in which we are supposedly
Speaker 3: living now is just according to the most recent calendar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeamn, that's so.
Speaker 4: You do you believe like in ancient history like the
Speaker 4: hieroglyphs and all that, or do you believe like it's
Speaker 4: a shorter time frame, like you believe it's under like
Speaker 4: a certain amount of years, or.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, that's that's where we kind
Speaker 3: of get into a whole other discussion of you know,
Speaker 3: what is what is time? Because time is it's it's
Speaker 3: an eternal now really, there is no there is no past,
Speaker 3: there is no no future. There is only only the presence.
Speaker 3: And we you know, we gave it names and numbers
Speaker 3: and whatever to understand it better. I I have no
Speaker 3: idea in what what year we'd actually be living in,
Speaker 3: what age would definitely actually be living in. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know the Iron Age, Iron Age of civilisation, right,
Speaker 3: hug right and rock like, you know, given a name,
Speaker 3: but like, what what year? What age? What time? Man?
Speaker 3: I I don't know time is, Time is weird. Time
Speaker 3: is speeding up actually, which has also been proven like
Speaker 3: actually scientifically proven, not just conspiratorial proven, right, right, right,
Speaker 3: because we all know how that goes. Uh. But yeah,
Speaker 3: just like whatever whatever I was as told as a
Speaker 3: you know, as a kid or even as an adult
Speaker 3: what time is and what it's supposed to be, it's
Speaker 3: not I I know of the the cycles of man,
Speaker 3: of the ages of man, you know, the the Yugas
Speaker 3: for example, of the of the Indos, even the Germanics,
Speaker 3: nor Germanics like we believe in the the cycles of humanity.
Speaker 3: If you look at nature itself, it is cyclical. It's not.
Speaker 3: It's not a straight line. You know, day and night
Speaker 3: keeps going cyclical, year goes round, cyclical. So why we're
Speaker 3: making it a you know, a straight line. I mean,
Speaker 3: I guess too perhaps kind of confuse people like, oh no,
Speaker 3: you know, like that that time is gone there, you know,
Speaker 3: like that's not coming back. If you haven't done it
Speaker 3: by then, then you know it's not coming back and
Speaker 3: you failed to better try again. It really, you know,
Speaker 3: creates a false sense of urgency as well. If everything
Speaker 3: is a straight line with a like a definite beginning
Speaker 3: and a definite end.
Speaker 1: That being said, it sounds like you believe more in
Speaker 1: the reincarnation.
Speaker 3: I do believe, that's the thing. Yes, I'm not. Actually,
Speaker 3: I was watching a video on that yesterday about reincarnation
Speaker 3: and the the you know cycle of the the afterlife,
Speaker 3: if you will. It was kind of a depressing video,
Speaker 3: but a little bit yeah, but it made a lot
Speaker 3: of sense at the same time as well. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I do believe in in reincarnation, but more so as
Speaker 3: you like, you know, as a let's say, as a
Speaker 3: dutch Man as a a well, to put it in
Speaker 3: very easy terms, a white European.
Speaker 2: I'm I mean, I'm sorry, whatever.
Speaker 3: I'll take it.
Speaker 1: No, that's not evil dog anyway.
Speaker 3: I don't care. Call me whatever it's it's no sweat
Speaker 3: on my back. I'm not gonna reincarnate as a you know,
Speaker 3: a sub Saharan. I'm not going to reincarnate as someone
Speaker 3: from India. The North Germanics believe, and I you know,
Speaker 3: I do too, because it makes so much more sense
Speaker 3: to me that you will reincarnate as someone within your
Speaker 3: own lineage, within your own own family, within your own bloodline.
Speaker 3: It you know, can be I don't know, like one
Speaker 3: of my grandchildren, one of my grand grandchildren, like whoever,
Speaker 3: but within the same family tree.
Speaker 1: I've never heard this before.
Speaker 4: I've actually never heard that before either.
Speaker 3: That's uh, that's that's according to the nurse Germanic faith,
Speaker 3: according to you know why, my ancestral faith. Really and
Speaker 3: it feels like it makes a lot more a lot
Speaker 3: more sense, Like it makes a lot more sense to me,
Speaker 3: like why just you know, as a like you're a
Speaker 3: European one life, then you're an African, then you're I
Speaker 3: don't know some I don't know in yeah, or.
Speaker 1: Or an animal.
Speaker 2: That's another thing I hear a lot of from the
Speaker 2: Vedic perspective is that you're reincarna.
Speaker 1: But that's you know.
Speaker 3: That's the regressing of of the soul. That's if you
Speaker 3: have this like talking from the the karmic perspective, which
Speaker 3: kind of is a thing with the Norse draumanic, but
Speaker 3: that is like if you've lived such a a bad
Speaker 3: life that you know, and saved up so much bad
Speaker 3: karma that you'll like regress, that your soul will regress.
Speaker 3: And there there are theories out there. Mind Unveiled is
Speaker 3: a great channel for that. I love those guys. That
Speaker 3: that is where pigs, for example, come from, because they
Speaker 3: are at least anatomically most similar as humans. That's why
Speaker 3: in crime investigations, for example, if they're trying to match
Speaker 3: you know, wounds or gun shut wounds, they use a
Speaker 3: pick carcass because the the structure of human flesh and
Speaker 3: pig flesh is ninety plus at least percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Similar when we were in the Marine Corps are docks.
Speaker 2: They would get sent to pig lab and basically that's
Speaker 2: what it is. They'll they'll take a group of pigs,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if they still do it. I
Speaker 2: heard they swapped it out for goats, but at least
Speaker 2: when we were in they would shoot a pig or
Speaker 2: stab a pig or have a grenade go off near it,
Speaker 2: and the docks job was to keep the pig alive
Speaker 2: for two days, and like you'd have to start an iv,
Speaker 2: get it's stable, treat the wound, and if you got
Speaker 2: it stable, then they would come up and probably shoot
Speaker 2: it in another spot and keep you going for like
Speaker 2: two straight days. And like that the reason for that
Speaker 2: same conversation is that pigs and humans have very very
Speaker 2: similar uh not I mean anatomically as heart, lungs, guts,
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Yeah, but as far as like
Speaker 2: stitching up a pig versus stitching up I don't know,
Speaker 2: a monkey or something that's it's very is different.
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's that's from a like a karmic perspective,
Speaker 3: Like if you're such a terrible human being that you
Speaker 3: know you don't deserve to be a human in your
Speaker 3: next life, so you regress to you know, back to
Speaker 3: the animal kingdom in order to you know, try again,
Speaker 3: and you know, if you do well enough as an animal,
Speaker 3: and I really don't know how that would work, you know,
Speaker 3: you can come back as a as a human, because
Speaker 3: we would be at least in you know, terrestrial form.
Speaker 3: We are the the peak if you will, like it's
Speaker 3: only then the next step would be, of course enlightenment,
Speaker 3: you know, joining with with the gods or deification of
Speaker 3: some kind.
Speaker 1: No doubt that.
Speaker 4: When you're talking about time, that reminds me. We had
Speaker 4: a shaman on I don't know a month ago or so.
Speaker 4: I mean, he was talking about his perspective tis sounds
Speaker 4: very similar to yours, and he was saying that it
Speaker 4: was there's no past or present. Everything is like happening
Speaker 4: at this exact same time. It's just that it's like
Speaker 4: different sequencing of your life being going on at the
Speaker 4: same moment. And I was just it's an interesting concept
Speaker 4: because you're not the first person that we've heard and
Speaker 4: that I've talked to in the last few months that
Speaker 4: has said the same thing. And we have people that
Speaker 4: are really intelligent that are actually coming on they're going
Speaker 4: to talk about like black holes and stuff, because with
Speaker 4: black holes, there's different aspects of time in a black
Speaker 4: hole before middle and after that changes time all throughout,
Speaker 4: and that actually is the concept that's changing even now
Speaker 4: is the time, and like what does time mean relative
Speaker 4: to us? Which is interesting because like we know inherently
Speaker 4: we're born and we die, so technically we have a
Speaker 4: time frame in which we're living. So like it is
Speaker 4: a cycle of a person. But we had to at
Speaker 4: least conceptualize with some type of time. I guess in
Speaker 4: whatever fashion we want with it. At least that's in
Speaker 4: my mind, because we know it's going to be a
Speaker 4: beginning and an end all in the in between, I guess
Speaker 4: is the what if?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then still you know, things like like aging
Speaker 3: for example, like you know, we celebrate our birthdays. There
Speaker 3: are stories or there's at least this this one story
Speaker 3: of a this adult guy I don't I don't know
Speaker 3: his name, but I think it's a fascinating story. He
Speaker 3: is kind of the or he really modeled himself after
Speaker 3: Peter Pan, like he believes that he is, you know,
Speaker 3: Peter Pan of this world and also stopped celebrating his birthdays,
Speaker 3: like he doesn't acknowledge that, you know, he's gotten another
Speaker 3: year older because Peter Pan is you know, forever a boy,
Speaker 3: So he doesn't age. This guy according to you know,
Speaker 3: let's say regular time, is I believe in his at
Speaker 3: least in his seventies, like late late sixties, early seventies.
Speaker 3: He looks like he could be in his forties still,
Speaker 3: And like then that's like that's another question, like do
Speaker 3: we do we age because we acknowledge that we age,
Speaker 3: like very age, like in the way do we age
Speaker 3: ourselves like, oh.
Speaker 4: You know because we're stressed out?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we accept our own mortality, right, we accept
Speaker 1: our own death as an inevitability. I've heard people theorize
Speaker 1: that too.
Speaker 2: It's like the only reason why we dies because we
Speaker 2: accept the fact that we're going to die one day.
Speaker 2: Which there again, that's very interesting. I mean there's conversations
Speaker 2: of and there's stories and legends of like the Count
Speaker 2: of Saint Germain and vampires and things that live hundreds
Speaker 2: of years past that point.
Speaker 1: Then you can look at the old.
Speaker 4: Things Abraham lived to like nine hundred or something like that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, yeah, and then the.
Speaker 2: People stories in Samaria of a king ruling for thirty
Speaker 2: six thousand years and shit like.
Speaker 3: This, Yeah, the Sumerian King's list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's stories of this but at the same time,
Speaker 2: and I could, I could get down with that to
Speaker 2: a point.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So I've seen people who are in their eighties and
Speaker 2: they are still able to get up and move like
Speaker 2: they always have been. Their minds are still sharp, they
Speaker 2: all these things. But they also take care of their bodies.
Speaker 2: They eat well, they stay active. They've never gone into
Speaker 2: the realm of living a sedentary lifestyle where they just
Speaker 2: wake up and sit and watch TV for twelve hours
Speaker 2: and then go to bed like they've They've never stopped moving.
Speaker 1: And that's to that point.
Speaker 2: I've seen people I worked with, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: these old dudes that were able to somehow outwork most
Speaker 2: of the twenty year olds, I mean, just get after
Speaker 2: it that when they retire and they go home, they
Speaker 2: got about six months and then they die.
Speaker 1: Because it is.
Speaker 4: Such a thing that my dad did the same thing. Honestly,
Speaker 4: he was great and then passed away within under a
Speaker 4: year of retiring.
Speaker 1: Oh just like.
Speaker 3: Closation recently, yeah, yeah, yeah, this conversation recently with someone
Speaker 3: on my show as well. And and the the things
Speaker 3: that we brought up is I mean delivery, you know,
Speaker 3: and the end of life and beginning of life. There
Speaker 3: are stories of like pregnant pregnant women who like don't
Speaker 3: know that that they're pregnant, so you know, just flat
Speaker 3: belly still you know, like looking out right, but you know,
Speaker 3: still kind of getting the symptoms. You know, they're a
Speaker 3: little they're a little queasy, they're a little off, so
Speaker 3: you know, might be worth paying the doctor of visits.
Speaker 3: And then you know they go in with just you know,
Speaker 3: like flat belly and not looking pregnant into the doctor's office.
Speaker 3: Doctor does all their test all these tests and says like, hey,
Speaker 3: like you know you're five months pregnant, right, like what sorry,
Speaker 3: And then you know they come out with five month
Speaker 3: belly just through one doctor's visit because they they.
Speaker 1: They now accept it as a fact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or with that's another example. You'll hear that quite often.
Speaker 3: For example, people who get diagnosed with cancer. For example,
Speaker 3: a lot of these people, as you said, like you know,
Speaker 3: they kind of give up because you know, it's like,
Speaker 3: oh man, cancer. And then you know, before that they
Speaker 3: were just you know, happy, go lucky living life, you know,
Speaker 3: like roughing around with the grandkids because they could still
Speaker 3: they could still do that. And then you know they
Speaker 3: hear like, sorry, you got cancer and within a month
Speaker 3: it's just gone. It's like, so are we are we
Speaker 3: doing that to ourselves? Is that just the human body? Like?
Speaker 4: What's the brain is such a powerful tool though, I mean,
Speaker 4: there's so many scientific things that they have gone down
Speaker 4: when it comes to the brain and being able to
Speaker 4: And I think I've talked about this person before. She's
Speaker 4: like a really famous lady that had stage four cancer
Speaker 4: that spent every day meditating for like multiple hours a
Speaker 4: day about how she would go to the go. She
Speaker 4: had like a giant mountain of cancer, and every day,
Speaker 4: for like a couple hours a day, she would go
Speaker 4: and she'd take a shovel and in her mind, she
Speaker 4: would you know, shove it into a wheelbow and then
Speaker 4: she would walk to the edge and she would dump
Speaker 4: it over the edge and she would do this over
Speaker 4: and over and over again, and lo and behold, after
Speaker 4: like six months, she actually is cancer free. She still
Speaker 4: is to this day. And there's a lot of conversations
Speaker 4: about what your mind can do versus what we talk
Speaker 4: about like actually allow in modern medicine, like oh, you know,
Speaker 4: that's not a thing. I truly believe that our minds
Speaker 4: are capable of so many things. Oh and it's there's
Speaker 4: just so many neural pathways that it can create on
Speaker 4: its own. And like the negative neural pathways is so
Speaker 4: much easier to create than positive. And I find that
Speaker 4: to be really interesting because if you look at what
Speaker 4: the negative will do to your body in and of
Speaker 4: itself and the physiology of it, and like how you
Speaker 4: would come sick from stress, you will die from stress
Speaker 4: verse just anything else. You could be happy as can be,
Speaker 4: but you can die from stress in a heartbeat because
Speaker 4: you're overworked, because your mind is so overworked. It's it's
Speaker 4: taxing everybody part.
Speaker 1: You and me both being in the Marine Corps. How
Speaker 1: many thirty three year olds did you know in the
Speaker 1: Marine Corps that were the body type of a fucking
Speaker 1: sixty year old because the amount of stress and deployment.
Speaker 4: They look they look old, They look very old.
Speaker 2: Their joints have arthritis that I mean granted from carrying
Speaker 2: packs and stuff like this. But my point is that
Speaker 2: like their bodies have been aged in such a condensed
Speaker 2: amount of time. The hair loss, the grays, the wrinkle
Speaker 2: is the whole nine. You might retire quote unquote by
Speaker 2: forty but brother your body is that of a seven
Speaker 2: year old at this point. Like that stress absolutely is
Speaker 2: detrimental to the human health.
Speaker 1: That is a fact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you see a lot with a lot of uh,
Speaker 3: you know a lot of blue collar workers as well.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people, oh yes, no, who
Speaker 3: work with their bodies, especially those in construction for example.
Speaker 4: You know the plant workers down here. We're huge, So
Speaker 4: Louisiana is like we have like eighty three plants just
Speaker 4: around us, and like this is the way of life
Speaker 4: down here. These plant workers, mainly men, are working extremely
Speaker 4: hard every day to keep honestly society going. And they
Speaker 4: don't get their dues. I mean, look at the oil
Speaker 4: rig guys, like they're out there slaving away and stuff.
Speaker 4: And you can tell, you can tell which ones are
Speaker 4: out working and stuff. Because my ex husband when he
Speaker 4: started verse when we actually separated, he honestly he looks
Speaker 4: like he aged twenty five years in a matter of
Speaker 4: a ten year span. I mean he his body has
Speaker 4: faced everything. And that's everyone we know down here. Honestly,
Speaker 4: you can tell which ones are really out doing the work.
Speaker 4: And it's the physical work, it's the stress of the work,
Speaker 4: it's the hard, long hours you know, they're working turnarounds,
Speaker 4: doing sixteen hour days and stuff, and really are Society
Speaker 4: couldn't really function without all these plant workers because a
Speaker 4: lot of them are doing so many things to keep
Speaker 4: America going.
Speaker 2: And to that point, it's not just the physical although yes,
Speaker 2: the physical harm that you're doing to your body from
Speaker 2: doing that level of blue collar work. I'm not negating
Speaker 2: that whatsoever. But look at these old ranch hands. You
Speaker 2: got these dudes that have been heard in cattle and
Speaker 2: they're still doing it somehow at eighty five years old
Speaker 2: and keeping up with the young cats. Yeah, they may
Speaker 2: need to take an extra break every now and then,
Speaker 2: but like, they're still doing it, and it's I would argue,
Speaker 2: the same level of physical labor on the body, but
Speaker 2: they live it longer and are able to do it
Speaker 2: for longer. And I think that goes back to what
Speaker 2: we're talking about with stress. It's a combination. For sure,
Speaker 2: the stress level associated with working in a plant where
Speaker 2: a chemical leak that has nothing to do with you
Speaker 2: from two units over might kill you today and there's
Speaker 2: nothing you could do about that. There's a level of
Speaker 2: actual stress that goes into that level of work. On
Speaker 2: top of the heat, and on top of the heavy lifting,
Speaker 2: on top of the injuries to the and all these things. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: these old farmers, they just get after it until the
Speaker 2: day they die. In their field. And their level of stress,
Speaker 2: although they have some, it's different. It's two very different calibers.
Speaker 4: Of stress, but it's so much more peaceful.
Speaker 1: Exactly, they're getting dirt under their I was.
Speaker 4: A hand yes, for two years, and that's that as
Speaker 4: hard hard work like that is. It is backbreaking labor
Speaker 4: all day long, every day we're in the heat, we're
Speaker 4: just dying out there. But honestly, I've never never felt
Speaker 4: more alive and more at peace than working that job,
Speaker 4: because though it was the most intense labor ever, I
Speaker 4: mean I was, it was hard, but I felt so
Speaker 4: much more connected, I guess to just the energy around
Speaker 4: me and the way everything was, and I was so
Speaker 4: much more at peace. I could go there and all
Speaker 4: my stress would be gone from the day, like from
Speaker 4: the night before or whatever, and I would just be like,
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm good because I'm out here doing
Speaker 4: that verse where my ex husband, his job is so
Speaker 4: mentally stressful on top of physically stressful, and a lot
Speaker 4: of these men are having to do all this stuff,
Speaker 4: and you can tell by just the way that they're
Speaker 4: you know, their bodies are and the way that they
Speaker 4: look and stuff there. You know, it's crazy what happens
Speaker 4: with your mind and what it does to your actual
Speaker 4: outside body and inside body.
Speaker 1: I don't miss.
Speaker 3: I think that's yeah. I think that's also well one
Speaker 3: of the reasons why, you know, first of all, in
Speaker 3: modern times, at least here in Europe, people in the
Speaker 3: Mediterranean live for so much longer because I mean, the
Speaker 3: weather is a lot nicer, I'll say that much. You know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot more sunshine, fresh fruits, you know, a
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of fresh fish and all of that.
Speaker 3: So their diet is a lot better. Yeah, and they
Speaker 3: live a very well, mostly stress free life. So that's
Speaker 3: why you know, a lot of those people, you know,
Speaker 3: the Greeks, the Italians, Spanish, they live like, well, well
Speaker 3: into their their eighties nineties in a healthy way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have like a I remember they were striking
Speaker 2: for like a six hour work week or something in
Speaker 2: Greece and I was like, I'm sorry, oh what.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And in France a a while ago, a few
Speaker 3: years ago, I believe, there were these huge riots because
Speaker 3: they wanted to up the retirement age to sixty three.
Speaker 3: I believe it used to be sixty one, and you know,
Speaker 3: they wanted to up it to sixty three, and the
Speaker 3: French like absolutely started a riot. Yeah because of it.
Speaker 1: They started here on buildings and stuff. I remember that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like here in the Netherlands, we're up to sixty seven.
Speaker 1: Same here moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not even counting on actual retirements.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely not.
Speaker 2: I was as long as a taxpayer funded retirement. Yeah, brother,
Speaker 2: the baby boomer generation, which I do y'all have that
Speaker 2: in the Netherlands as Oh yeah, okay, okay, So the
Speaker 2: baby boomer generation is going to absolutely bankrupt whatever nationalized
Speaker 2: retirement that we have.
Speaker 1: Let's just be real here, the math be mathew.
Speaker 3: That's that's a problems.
Speaker 1: The boomers fucked us. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: It's it's a problem coming up in the Netherlands as well,
Speaker 3: because soon we'll have more people in retirements than people working.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: Well, and that's the thing though, There's it's a double
Speaker 4: edged sword though, because we have so many people that
Speaker 4: don't want to work any longer, we also have so
Speaker 4: much the cost of living is so high that a
Speaker 4: lot of the elderly are having to take jobs. I mean,
Speaker 4: help the little old people at the Walmart and stuff.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're you're talking. Some of them can't even
Speaker 4: hardly stand up very well, and they're like in their
Speaker 4: seventies eighties or so, and they're so sweet, and I
Speaker 4: feel so bad for them because like they're there because
Speaker 4: they have to be there, and it's like you've worked
Speaker 4: your whole life, and ursis is feeling you if we
Speaker 4: can't help take care of you in some capacity. Like
Speaker 4: you know, they're all sitting together and just you know,
Speaker 4: being super cute and like seeing you know, hello and goodbye,
Speaker 4: and which is not tough on them, but like sitting
Speaker 4: in a metal chair all day isn't comfortable for them either.
Speaker 4: So no, definitely, it's it's going to be an interesting time.
Speaker 4: I mean if we if we even make it to
Speaker 4: us being retired. I mean, at this rate, we're stacking
Speaker 4: up crazy disasters and pandemics and wars and whatever else
Speaker 4: like Pokemon cards for millennials.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm thirty four years old and I've already
Speaker 3: lived through a you know, lived through a pandemic, live
Speaker 3: through nine to eleven, a financial crash housing market, changing
Speaker 3: off the currency from you know, national currency. We had
Speaker 3: the guilders, now it's the euros.
Speaker 1: When did that happen?
Speaker 3: Two thousand and two?
Speaker 2: Not mistaken, There was a lot of countries around that
Speaker 2: time frame. It was like post nine to eleven where
Speaker 2: a lot of European nations are like, I know what,
Speaker 2: let's just let's just consolidate and do the whole euro thing.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: The consolidation has been a effect for a long time
Speaker 3: with the European Union, which I mean in its current
Speaker 3: forum is not that old, but we you know, Europe
Speaker 3: has been unionized under a like under one banner for
Speaker 3: a while at least. Yeah, well yeah, thirty four years old.
Speaker 3: And like I've already lived through fucking all of this,
Speaker 3: and like I'm still here.
Speaker 4: I'm thirty six and he's thirty three.
Speaker 3: So I mean mostly gets say, mostly out of spite.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just you know, and memes, good memes.
Speaker 3: You know, not too much caffeine.
Speaker 2: Spike Spike caffeine and dark humor will get you through
Speaker 2: some shit, man.
Speaker 4: We'll make it through for sure. What do you think
Speaker 4: about the digital currency situation that England is pushing forward
Speaker 4: so heavy right now? Like that's back on the docket
Speaker 4: and they're fighting it out right now as of this week.
Speaker 4: About wanting to about like he pretty much said, like,
Speaker 4: they're doing this. Don't give a shit about what you want.
Speaker 4: We're doing this, and if you guys are all tied
Speaker 4: in together, that means you all will get roped into
Speaker 4: this whole situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they want to bring out a the European digital currency.
Speaker 3: Oh god, you know that is controlled by the European
Speaker 3: Bank of course, of course, the child which is control Yeah,
Speaker 3: the world order situation got most likely. Yeah, oh, the
Speaker 3: new order has been here for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now Britain's a little different because of the Brexit thing, right,
Speaker 2: and so they're kind of on their own. However, I
Speaker 2: could see a lot of European nations looking to them
Speaker 2: to see how this whole digital currency thing shakes out
Speaker 2: and if it goes even slightly towards the neutral, even
Speaker 2: just below like Okay, this is kind of.
Speaker 1: Bad, but look at this other shit.
Speaker 2: I could see the EU being like, Okay, let's let's
Speaker 2: see if we can expand on this.
Speaker 3: I mean, the EU is already is already pushing it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, in a matter of years, they want to
Speaker 3: go for a for a digital currency, you know, because
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's it's safer, it's easier, you.
Speaker 4: Know, easier to control.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they That's how they always take freedoms.
Speaker 2: They say it's for safety, and they say it's for comfort.
Speaker 4: That's always the Germany will be the first pop off.
Speaker 4: I guarantee it may be out there, be.
Speaker 2: Like Germany is kind of having a re a revitalization
Speaker 2: of their nationalist movement.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that in a Nazi way.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that the people that are pro Germany for Germany,
Speaker 2: by Germany, they're kind of having a resurgence right now.
Speaker 2: And there's a few euro nations that are doing the
Speaker 2: same because of the Muslim insurrection that's going on across
Speaker 2: the continent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Western western Europe, northwestern Europe, we're definitely seeing a
Speaker 3: revitalization in well, if you really want to make it
Speaker 3: something political like right wing nationalism. Yeah, you know, a
Speaker 3: lot of inded like for our country, by our countryman.
Speaker 3: It's the pendulum swing, Yeah, yeah, it is because.
Speaker 2: For years it went more of the progressive and the
Speaker 2: if you want to call it, like the rest and
Speaker 2: liberal we need the migrants, we need this, we need this,
Speaker 2: and so many European countries have fucked themselves over because
Speaker 2: of that. And by the countries, I don't mean the civilians,
Speaker 2: I mean the government officials that force the mandates. Now
Speaker 2: the pendulum swing in the other way and they're saying, like,
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe we went too far, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: we need to do this, and you're you're are you
Speaker 2: seeing that in Norway, Jesus Christ in holl you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, The Netherlands, excuse me.
Speaker 3: That's all right? Uh, northern Europe where you know, I
Speaker 3: mean Europe, the country of Europe.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, no doubt, whole place over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, I know we're we're definitely seeing
Speaker 3: it in the in the Netherlands, I mean, if only
Speaker 3: because the animosity towards the right wing and right wing
Speaker 3: political groups is is growing and is very evident. So
Speaker 3: you know, if they're like if they're very vocal about
Speaker 3: these ideas that you know, there's there's something going on
Speaker 3: with it. Like even I've seen that on mostly on
Speaker 3: Instagram actually lately, these like well no like fight groups
Speaker 3: actually kind of like well fight club inspired if you will.
Speaker 3: We're just a bunch of a bunch of young dudes
Speaker 3: go out in the woods and beat each other to
Speaker 3: to a bloody pulp.
Speaker 1: Fuckers, du bros. I'm here for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely, And that's it's kind of
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's a thing that is happening
Speaker 3: here in the Netherlands anyway, or in Europe. You have
Speaker 3: a couple of promotions really, one of the best ones
Speaker 3: is King of the Streets. It's so incredibly violent as
Speaker 3: really anything goes, so you know, fish hooking, eye couching, headbuds,
Speaker 3: doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I've heard of this.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen any videos of it,
Speaker 2: but I heard of the King of the Streets thing.
Speaker 2: Then it's not just in in the Netherlands, it's it's
Speaker 2: going to Europe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Europe as a whole.
Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, this is just street fights with
Speaker 2: some dude to break it up if it goes a
Speaker 2: little too far kind of Uh.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, it's it's a submission or a knockout, and
Speaker 3: you have no no in between. Really, and like fur
Speaker 3: the rest and like I said, you know, anything goes,
Speaker 3: and it's old UFC rules.
Speaker 2: Basically, I'm kind of happy to see it, honestly, because
Speaker 2: I was genuinely worried about our generation. And I mean,
Speaker 2: granted not I understand that America is a weird litmus
Speaker 2: test to go off of, but us being American, we
Speaker 2: only have that to really work off of. So depending
Speaker 2: on which section of the country or in a twenty
Speaker 2: five year old twenty five year old male and a
Speaker 2: twenty five year old male from the East Coast versus
Speaker 2: the West Coast, from the Midwest, from the South, we're
Speaker 2: talking very different human beings here. And it's not just
Speaker 2: because of you know, necessarily where they come from, their
Speaker 2: socioeconomic background. Some of this generation truly have no problem
Speaker 2: getting out there and doing manshit and working and being
Speaker 2: accountable for their actions and all this stuff. Others want
Speaker 2: to take the most pussified way out possible, and they
Speaker 2: don't want to get out in the sun. They don't
Speaker 2: want to go and do that because that's brutish and
Speaker 2: that's oh, we don't need alpha men in this society anymore.
Speaker 2: And all this and it's like e's that's a dangerous
Speaker 2: mentality to have, and it's it's very weird to look at.
Speaker 2: But I will say that in this generation, at least
Speaker 2: in our neck of the woods in Louisiana, we don't
Speaker 2: have that a lot. A lot of the guys here
Speaker 2: understand that, like if you're going to have a family
Speaker 2: one day, if you're going to own a home one day, whatever,
Speaker 2: you have to find a way to earn money. And
Speaker 2: there's a lot of opportunity to hear for that. But
Speaker 2: that's not the case everywhere. And so when you see
Speaker 2: places like Europe and it's very same conversation. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of the guys that are more of the softer
Speaker 2: variety and some of the guys that are trying to revitalize.
Speaker 1: Men doing men shit.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of happy to see that there's still
Speaker 2: guys out there that want to throw hands for the
Speaker 2: fuck of it, Like yes, this is this is proper
Speaker 2: hell y.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely. And I even saw this this video
Speaker 3: come by from from someone and I don't know if
Speaker 3: this is real or like he's just trying to be
Speaker 3: trying to be edgy, but he says like I'm not
Speaker 3: going in there for a fight, Like I'm going in
Speaker 3: there to kill, Like I'm going there to fucking murder
Speaker 3: my opponents, and you know, it's it's all the it's
Speaker 3: all the the will of God. You know, if God
Speaker 3: allows me to to win, then you know that that
Speaker 3: was his was his will. And if I lose, then
Speaker 3: that was that was his will. And I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I think necessarily I don't necessarily agree with with that.
Speaker 3: You know, I think that's sleep just you know, trying
Speaker 3: to be trying to be really really edgy. But like
Speaker 3: the the idea behind it, I get it, you know,
Speaker 3: do you know it's limits? Yeah? Yeah, and he just
Speaker 3: like he wants, he wants to fight, and I get it,
Speaker 3: I absolutely get it. But there is such a thing
Speaker 3: as you know, doing too much m Yeah, sure, I
Speaker 3: mean at least at least he's doing it.
Speaker 1: At least you want to murder people.
Speaker 2: I think we can draw the line at murder now
Speaker 2: beating each other into a bloody then like, hey, get
Speaker 2: some beers afterwards, make a fire. Do guy ship that
Speaker 2: we shouldn't go in with the intention of killing unless
Speaker 2: some sort of a crime has been committed that warrants
Speaker 2: such a response.
Speaker 1: You know that there's got to be some sort.
Speaker 3: Of limit, which is also happening in retaliation there is
Speaker 3: a pretty well known story already of a pretty young,
Speaker 3: sweet girl I believe she was seventeen, who of course
Speaker 3: got you know, unfortunately, raped by migrants. Sweden has the
Speaker 3: biggest problem level of Europe with them. That's not even
Speaker 3: like UK level. Sweden is worst, unfortunately, and really beautiful.
Speaker 3: It's such a beautiful country, such beautiful people. But she
Speaker 3: you know, got some of her brothers and some of
Speaker 3: her you know, her male friends, and you know, lured
Speaker 3: the guy to the woods and strung him up.
Speaker 1: Fuck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't feel bad whatsoever for this.
Speaker 3: Nah, that's where And there are even like jokes made
Speaker 3: about it now, which I think is so fantastic, Like
Speaker 3: you didn't know what he was wearing. Ye, maybe he
Speaker 3: was asking for.
Speaker 4: It, that's it. That wasn't that it was harding.
Speaker 3: Any any protective net gear.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've ever seen the it's a
Speaker 4: thing that's gone around I know the States at least,
Speaker 4: and it is is all the victims from infancy up
Speaker 4: of what they were wearing at the time that they
Speaker 4: were assaulted, and it is a showcase of you know, commonly,
Speaker 4: well they they asked for it, and like it's children's
Speaker 4: clothing and like footy pajamas. It's women that are wearing
Speaker 4: you know, jeans and a baggy T shirt. It's all
Speaker 4: in between ranges of clothing what they were wearing and stuff.
Speaker 4: And I think it's such a powerful thing that should
Speaker 4: be required for everyone that has those remarks to go
Speaker 4: and actually see that. Like it has nothing to do
Speaker 4: with what you're wearing or anything. No, it's not if
Speaker 4: they're looking down or if they're talking to you or whatever.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's an interesting thing. But I actually just
Speaker 4: saw a woman that is getting released, thankfully. She found
Speaker 4: out her husband they owned a daycare for many years,
Speaker 4: and she found out her husband was assaulting the children,
Speaker 4: and she went shot him four times, fuck him, and
Speaker 4: they arrested her. They arrested her for it and she
Speaker 4: served I think like eighteen months or something, and thankfully
Speaker 4: she's being released. And there's a lot of conversations about
Speaker 4: getting yours pretty much, and like what does that look like?
Speaker 4: Is that a type of justice or does this or
Speaker 4: does you know you have to serve time for this?
Speaker 4: And it's like no, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, we were known for them to come out a hero, y'all.
Speaker 2: Y'all have seen the video of the guy shooting the
Speaker 2: dude who assaulted his son. His name is Gary plus
Speaker 2: Airport now right else at the court the Worthouse. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and for those that don't know, if you've never seen
Speaker 2: an oval, was in a phone booth talking and this
Speaker 2: guy was his kid's karate instructor for years and apparently
Speaker 2: have been raping him for years and years. And so
Speaker 2: he's just like he's on the phone with his boy.
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, you're about to see.
Speaker 1: Me on the news. Click. Why boy, them turn around
Speaker 1: and shot him and he's like why Gary, why you know?
Speaker 2: Damn good? And well why he gotta quit it? He
Speaker 2: served no time. The judges like it sounds like justice
Speaker 2: was served. You're not a bad guy, this guy was.
Speaker 2: And have a good day, sir, and it's all good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean I think we I'm not sure
Speaker 3: if I can say this out.
Speaker 4: Loud, you can say anything you want.
Speaker 3: We should start taking matters into our own hands again,
Speaker 3: because I mean, the the just the system. It has
Speaker 3: been proven over the last even the last few weeks
Speaker 3: with those you know files coming out. What's happened since
Speaker 3: you know, a a legal perspective, who's been who's been
Speaker 3: caught who's been arrested.
Speaker 2: Only I know a Prince Andrew. That's it, like, and
Speaker 2: then he got he got released like a few days later.
Speaker 2: That was just for the fucking photo op.
Speaker 4: It was just for the show of it though, to
Speaker 4: make people feel a little bit more comfortable, like, oh, hey,
Speaker 4: they actually did something they they might care.
Speaker 3: I doubt it was like the actual Prince Andrew, like
Speaker 3: it was. I don't know, Maybe.
Speaker 4: That's probably just one of those the stage you know
Speaker 4: people that they bring in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a clone, a body double like you you name it. It
Speaker 3: wasn't the actually that word, you know. And indeed it
Speaker 3: was more probably more of like, hey, you know, we're
Speaker 3: actually arresting arresting him, you know, because he was in
Speaker 3: the files. Don't worry. I've spoken about this on my
Speaker 3: Instagram as well, Like I don't believe.
Speaker 2: For our current Secretary of Commerce was in the files
Speaker 2: for years. Lutnik, who is still currently the United States
Speaker 2: Secretary of Commerce. This is the guy that makes like
Speaker 2: the whole wheeling and dealing of America's economy happen.
Speaker 1: And he was confirmed without any shadow of any doubt.
Speaker 2: An affiliate of Epstein went to the island multiple times
Speaker 2: all the.
Speaker 1: Things, he is still there. He's still fucking there. And
Speaker 1: it's like, no, this is we need to string so
Speaker 1: many people up and nothing's happening, nor will it probably happens.
Speaker 3: It's horrible, not until we take matters into our own hands,
Speaker 3: like we can't rely on the justice departments whatever of
Speaker 3: whatever country. You know, I'm in a very well have
Speaker 3: been in a very tough legal battle with my my
Speaker 3: ex over the last six years. Like she's keeping me
Speaker 3: away from the kids for yeah, well for no good reason.
Speaker 3: Then the stuff that she made up. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: it was never her intention to keep me around. It
Speaker 3: was her intention to you know, get pregnant, give birth,
Speaker 3: and then you know, bye bye baby daddy. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 3: don't think you're dicking crazy.
Speaker 1: I have two xys brother I feel.
Speaker 3: But like I I mean, I've won like every round
Speaker 3: so far, Like I'm up like two three and oh
Speaker 3: I still I haven't seen my kids since Christmas. And
Speaker 3: she's getting away with it because she's the mother.
Speaker 2: I will say that as far as America is concerned,
Speaker 2: we are a lot more equal now than we have
Speaker 2: been in years. It used to be pretty much no
Speaker 2: matter the mom is a strung out heroin addict, the
Speaker 2: dad might get weakened visitation, and that was just the
Speaker 2: way it was. These days, it is a lot more equal.
Speaker 2: So with both my divorces, I have fifty to fifty custody.
Speaker 2: I see all of my kids every single day, just
Speaker 2: because of the way the schedulings work out and shit.
Speaker 2: And I mean, you know, yes, tumultuous situations with ex
Speaker 2: wives and stuff is whatever. But as far as custody
Speaker 2: of kids goes, I got hard fifty to fifty and
Speaker 2: it's that's I'm very fortunate for that because I personally
Speaker 2: know guys they got fucked by the system only you know,
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. And that's unless they're willing to spend
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars and try to go back to court
Speaker 2: to fight the good fight. Now they're just kind of
Speaker 2: in that, which sucks.
Speaker 3: And my my, well, my attorney even told me that
Speaker 3: she is she specializes in this this field, you know,
Speaker 3: family law and all of that, and she is. She's amazing.
Speaker 3: Really I owe a lot to her. And she's even
Speaker 3: told me of, you know, like one case that she
Speaker 3: is she's currently working where the father works for the
Speaker 3: for the National Police he works well, you know, child
Speaker 3: abuse cases and all of that's sexual abuse, and his wife,
Speaker 3: ex wife, actually accused him of doing you know those
Speaker 3: things now, the case files that he sees in front
Speaker 3: of him every day, and it's like it's his job
Speaker 3: to like catch those fucking people, and his wife one
Speaker 3: hundred percent knows that, and she's accusing him of doing
Speaker 3: exactly that.
Speaker 4: There's there's a lot of different countries in states that
Speaker 4: have different kind of laws, Like in a province in Canada,
Speaker 4: they are extremely patriarchal. And my girlfriend got just ran
Speaker 4: through the actual mud for two solid years in legal
Speaker 4: battles and just a whole bunch of stuff happened. Versus
Speaker 4: I have a friend that you know, her ex husband heard.
Speaker 4: They've been to Supreme Court now three times and like,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, and the court has ruled in her favor
Speaker 4: every single And it's not like I just wanted to say,
Speaker 4: she's not asking for anything out of the norm. She's
Speaker 4: asking for child support because she ends up taking the
Speaker 4: children more than he does, and it's like fifty to
Speaker 4: fifty shared things and like he took a it's a
Speaker 4: lot of different stuff, but nothing is she asking. That's
Speaker 4: like egregious, and the courts have ruled in her favor,
Speaker 4: and every time that he gets a loss, he goes
Speaker 4: back and hires it again. And it's just like they've
Speaker 4: been doing this for almost seven years, dragging this whole
Speaker 4: situation out, and it's just I don't really understand all that.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's I understand like wanting to be petty.
Speaker 4: I guess if you're like that bad, but like, this
Speaker 4: is not when it comes to kids, because the kids
Speaker 4: are the ones that are suffering, not the parents are
Speaker 4: gonna just have to, you know, deal with whatever's happening,
Speaker 4: But the kids are the ones that have to suffer
Speaker 4: through all of this. And you know, I've seen moms
Speaker 4: that are horrible that should have no custody, somehow have
Speaker 4: custody of the kids. I've seen dads that are extremely
Speaker 4: abusive that should have no availability to be able to
Speaker 4: see these children, allowed to take them every other weekend,
Speaker 4: and you know, it runs the gamut of wherever you
Speaker 4: are and whatever happens. And I don't know if some
Speaker 4: countries are worse than other countries when it comes to
Speaker 4: custody laws, it seems so.
Speaker 3: And I believe we should start resolving these things as
Speaker 3: a community. Again, like I mean, I'm not even talking
Speaker 3: you know, like the whole legal stuff on like a
Speaker 3: national level, because I mean, I am you know, I'm
Speaker 3: a pagan, I'm a Heathen. I believe in you know,
Speaker 3: tribalism and all of that. It's been really good to
Speaker 3: us for a long time.
Speaker 2: For the record, I'm a Christian and I also get
Speaker 2: down with tribalism just we're clear awesome.
Speaker 3: Well, but you know, like the the community, they protect
Speaker 3: each other, they defend each other, they protect the ones
Speaker 3: who are less fortunate, if you will, and we I mean,
Speaker 3: we're seeing a return to that as well. We're seeing
Speaker 3: a return to you know, ancestral faith, to well, you know,
Speaker 3: Christianity as well, which I mean, hey, you know, any
Speaker 3: return to like religion in a healthy way, at least
Speaker 3: they're very unhealthy ways as well. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 3: I am very much you know, agreeing with that. I'm
Speaker 3: very much you know on that that train, like hell yeah,
Speaker 3: let's go.
Speaker 2: And to that point, there's a resurgence of people wanting
Speaker 2: to get back in touch with tradition.
Speaker 1: That's also something I'm seeing happen a lot.
Speaker 2: It would now, whether that be uh, tradition of the
Speaker 2: nineteen forties or tradition of the fifteen forties or the
Speaker 2: four forties, like whatever, to whatever.
Speaker 1: Level we're going here.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people, especially with like the Baby
Speaker 2: Burmer generation, it was the the you know, shedding of
Speaker 2: the yoke of tradition and the embracing of modernity and
Speaker 2: progressive ideas and all of this stuff. And I don't
Speaker 2: just mean in the hippieszeitgeist, I mean politically, culturally, all
Speaker 2: these things. And now we're seeing the remnants of that
Speaker 2: exactly exactly, we're seeing the ramifications of that now and
Speaker 2: so many people. There is more twenty and thirty something
Speaker 2: year olds that are attending religious services regularly than there
Speaker 2: have been in decades. And I don't think that's by accident.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. I mean, like, first of all, it's
Speaker 3: it's really the spirits returning as well. Yeah, and because
Speaker 3: and also because people need something to hold on to,
Speaker 3: because I mean, you know, first for the for the
Speaker 3: I don't know how many decades we've you know, relied
Speaker 3: on the government, you know, big daddy government will will
Speaker 3: take care of us. And now we're really starting to
Speaker 3: see like, oh, they're just squeezing us for for everything
Speaker 3: that we've gotten, and squeezing us some more.
Speaker 1: Which they always have been, but now there's no way
Speaker 1: of hiding it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I mean the veil is lifting. It's truly
Speaker 3: the you know, the apocalypse is the lifting of the veil.
Speaker 3: It's you know, we're on the tail end of the
Speaker 3: Cali Yuga. Everything is just out in the open. So yeah,
Speaker 3: there is no hiding it anymore. And with that has
Speaker 3: has come a huge spiritual religious resurgence, a return to
Speaker 3: tradition as well, because you know, even in our parents' generation,
Speaker 3: our grandparents' generation, you know, the forty hour work week
Speaker 3: should have been enough for one individual to just you know,
Speaker 3: keep a family of you know, like two and a
Speaker 3: half kids, white picking fans and a dog and you know,
Speaker 3: the freaking box standards to you know, maintain them like
Speaker 3: you can go on regular holidays, like you can go
Speaker 3: out in the summer, visited family during you know, during
Speaker 3: Christmas and all that, and all of that was sufficient
Speaker 3: on one income. Now you have two people working full time,
Speaker 3: you know in the US, especially here in then aalyance,
Speaker 3: it's not that bad yet, yeah, you know, like working
Speaker 3: two jobs and then still you know, having to be
Speaker 3: on benefits because they still can't make ends meet.
Speaker 1: And there's levels still the reason behind that too. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of people that were hard.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of new ones in it.
Speaker 2: But like we were like to we were told go
Speaker 2: to college if you want to get a good job.
Speaker 2: They never said go to college for a degree that
Speaker 2: makes money. There's so many people at there with a
Speaker 2: bullshit liberal arts degree that's working at a Starbucks now,
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, what did you think was going
Speaker 2: to happen? Nobody's hiring a liberal arts major because there's
Speaker 2: no work there. If you're going for engineering, you'd be
Speaker 2: making engineer money. And it's like, no, just follow your
Speaker 2: dreams and like no, listen, get a job and use
Speaker 2: the spare income to follow your dreams. That's what you
Speaker 2: should have been teaching people or learning how to work
Speaker 2: with your hands. Oh you don't want to be out
Speaker 2: there welding right right?
Speaker 3: I never I never went to university. I you know,
Speaker 3: I studied to be a cook. I've done that for
Speaker 3: I've worked well kitchen and catering for a good ten
Speaker 3: years and now I I work in high risk security
Speaker 3: and I have no university degree whatsoever. I've done it
Speaker 3: all with just you know, very basic diplomas and just
Speaker 3: you know, finding the best job opportunities that I can
Speaker 3: gain the most experience. That's why I'm working like now,
Speaker 3: you know, in high risk security, when I've only been
Speaker 3: working security for like four years. It's because I, you know,
Speaker 3: I work hard, I show what I can what I
Speaker 3: can do, and I know to to pick the places
Speaker 3: that I work at. Yeah, absolutely, I have I have
Speaker 3: no student debt whatsoever because I've always you know, I've
Speaker 3: always been working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that also ties into the ridiculous student
Speaker 2: loan situation. I know America is rife with it, but
Speaker 2: a lot of countries have very.
Speaker 3: Similars netherlens is. We're we're having that that problem as well.
Speaker 3: And we also have you know, people with a university
Speaker 3: degree in like eighty ninety thousands in student dad who
Speaker 3: can't get a job. I mean, my my sister's well
Speaker 3: now roommates. You know, they they've been friends since since
Speaker 3: high school. And how they also live together, Like she
Speaker 3: has a you know, a university a slightly lower and
Speaker 3: then university degree you know, very you know, specialized of course,
Speaker 3: and she's been applying for jobs for the last year
Speaker 3: two years not getting anything really or you know, nepotism
Speaker 3: playing playing a role. So yeah, it's it's it's hard
Speaker 3: for people out there. But and but that's that's also
Speaker 3: here in the adlance. Over the last few years, we've
Speaker 3: really been pushed to like go to university, you know,
Speaker 3: keep keep studying, get get higher higher degrees, Like you
Speaker 3: don't want to be a trade do you, Like you
Speaker 3: really want to work with your hands.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Meanwhile, the dudes working with their hands are doing
Speaker 2: just fine right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, actually having jobs and making more
Speaker 3: money than the ones with a you know, eighty ninety
Speaker 3: thousands college that's you know, university degree in some bullshit
Speaker 3: field of work that is so incredibly niche that they'll
Speaker 3: basically have to create their own job. I mean, I
Speaker 3: guess nowadays, you know, social media as an option, Podcasting
Speaker 3: is an option, TikTok's an option, it's something. But like
Speaker 3: you really want to use you know, your university degree
Speaker 3: to start a podcast, to start a to start a
Speaker 3: TikTok channel, right, that's not what you're doing it for, right.
Speaker 3: I Mean, it's great that the opportunities are there, you know,
Speaker 3: in that sense, you know, yay internet, but but.
Speaker 1: It's also internet money.
Speaker 2: You can you can get shadow band and have the
Speaker 2: rug pulled out from under you at any given time
Speaker 2: for no fucking reason.
Speaker 3: And it's so much. It's so much work. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: so much work. Like I am, I'm I'm lucky to
Speaker 3: be monetized. I'm lucky to have you know, a couple
Speaker 3: backers on Patreon. But if I'm making I don't know,
Speaker 3: like fifty dollars fifty euros a month of podcasting, that's
Speaker 3: a good month.
Speaker 2: Oh ship, How often you now content? How many like
Speaker 2: episodes a week are you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm live streaming at least once a week every Saturday,
Speaker 3: doing Roune readings with a with a good friend of mine.
Speaker 3: And I try to put out like an episode a week.
Speaker 3: I you know, I also still have a have a
Speaker 3: full time job.
Speaker 1: I feel that.
Speaker 3: And you know, on the on the Patreon there's some
Speaker 3: some bonus content. Got a book club that I'm you know,
Speaker 3: trying to trying to get going to do it's it's
Speaker 3: it's it's hard work. But I love I love content
Speaker 3: creation a lot. I love podcasting. I love, you know,
Speaker 3: hosting being a guest on you know, amazing podcasts like yours.
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, I'm doing it because it's a lot
Speaker 3: of fun, but I I really you know, want to
Speaker 3: make it my my day job.
Speaker 4: It's quite a bit of work, and I don't think
Speaker 4: people really understand, like I watched content creators well in
Speaker 4: advance before agree to join the cult and stuff. And
Speaker 4: what's what people don't actually know is like I was
Speaker 4: planning on making my own, uh another podcast, and I
Speaker 4: had been in the works for quite a while, but
Speaker 4: I just you know, kept dragging my feed, dragging my
Speaker 4: feet about it and stuff. But there's a lot of
Speaker 4: work that goes into podcasting and stuff, and it's it's interesting,
Speaker 4: like the people that we get to meet though, that
Speaker 4: we've been meeting. Over the last few weeks especially, we've
Speaker 4: been able to branch out and talk to a lot
Speaker 4: more people. I think that's one thing that's really cool
Speaker 4: about the Internet is that we can all come together
Speaker 4: collectively and hear other voices from around the world that
Speaker 4: are experiencing similar but obviously vastly different situations. Because you know,
Speaker 4: America isn't the the end all be all, like most
Speaker 4: people will assume we think that we're just like the
Speaker 4: one and only, but we don't.
Speaker 3: Not all that.
Speaker 4: Joking, but no, I mean when it comes to you
Speaker 4: talking about like student debt and the financial and financial aspects,
Speaker 4: and also the family aspects and not having a village.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's one of the big things in America
Speaker 4: that we don't have, is that we are such a
Speaker 4: high stress nation that is on the go twenty four
Speaker 4: to seven seventies a week. I mean, I drive anywhere
Speaker 4: between two to four hours a day, every single day,
Speaker 4: and it's you know, I'm doing that, I have kids,
Speaker 4: that I'm doing the podcast and all these things, and
Speaker 4: it's NonStop stressed twenty four to seven, just all the time.
Speaker 4: And I don't have family around me, and so it's,
Speaker 4: you know, it's pretty solo kind of a situation. And
Speaker 4: that's how a lot of Americans are as they don't
Speaker 4: have family, they don't have friends that they can have,
Speaker 4: they don't have a tribe of people any longer to
Speaker 4: help take care of the children and do all of
Speaker 4: these things and stuff. And that aspect has changed how
Speaker 4: we as humans have started to raise our children, how
Speaker 4: we've interacted with each other over the last like one
Speaker 4: hundred years and stuff like, we've really gotten away from
Speaker 4: the tribe in and of itself, and now we're at
Speaker 4: this point where we're so disconnected and we're so stressed out,
Speaker 4: and we have all of these health issues and physical
Speaker 4: physical issues and all of these things, and you know,
Speaker 4: everyone's so stretched thin people here in America. A lot
Speaker 4: of parents are having to work to at least two
Speaker 4: jobs each to try to keep afloat, and everyone's struggling,
Speaker 4: and it's you know, I think every country is having
Speaker 4: their own thing of what they're struggling with, but in America,
Speaker 4: we're just ran ragged pretty much to try to stay afloat.
Speaker 4: And the inflation prices are just going up and up
Speaker 4: and up, and you know, we have a lot of
Speaker 4: people that in our cold that have been dealing with
Speaker 4: health issues and dealing with all sorts of different issues
Speaker 4: in itself, and those costs hundreds of thousands of dollars,
Speaker 4: like medical is just insane for them. And so you know,
Speaker 4: we're trying to you know, everyone's trying to keep each
Speaker 4: other afloat. But the problem is we've lost that sense
Speaker 4: of pure community. And so I think back to your
Speaker 4: point about having a village to take care of each other,
Speaker 4: especially when it comes to situations like rape for example.
Speaker 4: And you know, you have these people that are going
Speaker 4: into the prisons system that are going to live on
Speaker 4: our tax dollars for the rest of their lives. Most
Speaker 4: of the time they don't even get charged that long. Like,
Speaker 4: let's be really honest that you get charged more for
Speaker 4: having drugs on you, for having marijuana than you do
Speaker 4: for raping somebody. Like that's there is a lot of
Speaker 4: incidents that you can show this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've I've heard those stories. I worked and I
Speaker 3: worked in the prison, and I mean the level of
Speaker 3: comfort is highly exaccurated. Like it is, it's still prison.
Speaker 1: I'm very curious because I say so many meanings about
Speaker 1: the Netherlands prison systems and it seems like a hotel
Speaker 1: with bars.
Speaker 3: No, no, absolutely not. I mean the prison cell it's
Speaker 3: I don't know, like in meters. Sorry, I don't know,
Speaker 3: freedom units, gotcha, it's America.
Speaker 2: We will literally use any other metric other than the
Speaker 2: metric system.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fridges, alligators, how many.
Speaker 4: Bis per I'm like, I don't you lost me at meters?
Speaker 4: I'm like sure, whatever. How many books do I need
Speaker 4: to line out like what do you what do you
Speaker 4: need from me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's well, let's say a prison is on
Speaker 3: on average, i'd say, like, I'll try, it's ok, eight
Speaker 3: feet eight feet about two and a half meters long
Speaker 3: by I want to say, five feet one and a
Speaker 3: half meters white. If you're lucky, you have that on
Speaker 3: your own. If you're not so lucky, you have a bunkie. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you have a TV in there, but that's you know,
Speaker 3: basic cable because no internet access whatsoever. Yes, you can have,
Speaker 3: you know, a a radio if you want to. There
Speaker 3: are things that you can you can get, but it's
Speaker 3: really all based on, you know, on how well behaved
Speaker 3: you are within the prison system. But still you're in
Speaker 3: yourself or like a good ten twelve hours a day
Speaker 3: at least, and you are supposed to be to be
Speaker 3: working as well. And yes, you're making a little money,
Speaker 3: but if it's you know, buck and a half an hour,
Speaker 3: you know you're very lucky. Most of that money is
Speaker 3: spent on you know, on commissionaries. Anyway, you can save
Speaker 3: up a little like you have your own yeah, what
Speaker 3: is it like prison bank accounts, prison credit card whatever,
Speaker 3: But that has a hard cap of they lowered it
Speaker 3: even of two hundred and fifty euros. I believe like
Speaker 3: that's the hard cap. Everything above that will still be added,
Speaker 3: but is frozen and non accessible, only accessible on release.
Speaker 4: And that's sounds like you guys are stricter than our
Speaker 4: prisons because we have some Yeah, we have some that
Speaker 4: they can get full degrees in and they can oh,
Speaker 4: ye can hear.
Speaker 3: They can hear as well, you know, you can you
Speaker 3: can get a you know, like a very like basic degree.
Speaker 3: There are opportunities for schooling. We the prison system in
Speaker 3: the Netherlands is focused on rehabilitation, you know, trying to
Speaker 3: get them back into society or rather than punish them
Speaker 3: for what they have done. Right, It's it's very it's
Speaker 3: very liberal and but yeah, I mean it's it's still
Speaker 3: a a little less than half, you know, will end
Speaker 3: up back in prison within a year. It's not you
Speaker 3: have to, yeah, because I believe you're at like thirty
Speaker 3: thirty some percents or so of people who don't go back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we have a fuck I forget what it's called,
Speaker 2: but basically the the reoffender list, if you will. There's
Speaker 2: a few people that like they fuck up, they understand
Speaker 2: it as a fuck up. They get out, they change
Speaker 2: their life, and that's great. But more often than not,
Speaker 2: even if you go in for like some sort of
Speaker 2: a petty crime in prison that's basically a schoolhouse on how.
Speaker 1: To be a professional criminal to different levels.
Speaker 2: And so a lot of these guys will go back
Speaker 2: out and since you know, it's one of those things
Speaker 2: that catch twenty two of their parole is that they
Speaker 2: have to hold a job. Well, not many employers are
Speaker 2: super stoked to hire a former con, which is.
Speaker 3: Also something that the Dutch prison system helps with. They
Speaker 3: they work together with certain companies that you know that
Speaker 3: you can you can get a job at or like
Speaker 3: at the very tail end of your your prison stint,
Speaker 3: there are opportunities that like you can you can work
Speaker 3: during the day, but you're in at night.
Speaker 1: Like a halfway house kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sort of like you you'll still spend you know,
Speaker 3: nights and mornings, evening, night, morning in you know, within
Speaker 3: the prison walls, but during the day you'll actually be working.
Speaker 3: So also you know, getting familiar with being back in
Speaker 3: society and you know, you you have a job for
Speaker 3: when you get out, because you'll just continue at that employer,
Speaker 3: but then you know, full time, So there's there's a
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of help. You know. Also with
Speaker 3: with housing, you you can get help if you so wish.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of opportunity to you know, get you
Speaker 3: back on on the straight and narrow if you will.
Speaker 3: Still there is you know versus that people who.
Speaker 4: With the word yeah, yeah, it's a weird it's a
Speaker 4: weird word. So Alaska has the highest percent at fifty
Speaker 4: eight point five percent, and then it kind of goes
Speaker 4: down from there. Our average probably would be around at
Speaker 4: least thirty percent. I would say, there's like it goes Alaska, Delaware,
Speaker 4: New Hampshire all above fifty percent and they that do
Speaker 4: not come back fifty eight percent? That do you come back?
Speaker 1: Oh it do?
Speaker 3: Yeah. For some reason that it's about Alaska, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 4: And so does Hawaii too. It looks like Hawaii is Nope,
Speaker 4: that's Alaska. I'm sorry they flipped it. I was like,
Speaker 4: why does this look like Alaska? But it's upside down?
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, it's They actually listed it all out.
Speaker 4: Louisiana is at twenty four point nine percent.
Speaker 2: That's out or go back in the go go back
Speaker 2: in That seems weird to me.
Speaker 1: I thought it was way higher in this state.
Speaker 4: This is as of twenty twenty six, so this is
Speaker 4: a three year rate that they've that they've been I
Speaker 4: guess testing or whatever. So the lowest ones look like
Speaker 4: South Carolina is at eighteen point five percent actually, but
Speaker 4: I'm I mean we have but like the Finland has
Speaker 4: a really interesting program when it comes to rehabilitation of
Speaker 4: contexts because like if you actually look at their whole system,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure you're way more familiar than me, but
Speaker 4: I've read about it at least where they talk about
Speaker 4: they don't actually want to put people in prison and
Speaker 4: they have the rehabilitation centers is what they like they
Speaker 4: were trying to push for. They were talking about instead
Speaker 4: of having certain prisons they wanted to push for.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, Scandanavia really does it different than the rest
Speaker 3: of Europe as well. What Scandinavia has always been very
Speaker 3: very socialist as well, so you know, always like really
Speaker 3: taking and also taking care of each other. That's I mean,
Speaker 3: that's hell. It was ready where all the vikings and
Speaker 3: as such come from. But yeah, they really try to
Speaker 3: make it as as humane as as possible. I've seen
Speaker 3: like the kind of street interviews like is this a
Speaker 3: you know, is this a dorm room or is this
Speaker 3: a p and yeah, I mean that's that's a dorm room, right, No,
Speaker 3: that's a person selling Norway, Like, look, that's better than
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 2: Finland's also weird, like if you get a doctorate in Finland,
Speaker 2: they give you a sword a top hat with your doctorate,
Speaker 2: like they do some weird shit.
Speaker 3: I mean, the fins are just they're they're they're you know,
Speaker 3: they're messed up. Anyway.
Speaker 4: It's a it's an interesting system that they want to
Speaker 4: put in place. Now I don't know if it's actually
Speaker 4: fully in place. The last I read on it, they
Speaker 4: had actual centers where their whole thing, though, was their
Speaker 4: percentage of people getting arrested is super low anyways, and
Speaker 4: like really low. And then the people that are arrested,
Speaker 4: they put them in certain categories and they have they
Speaker 4: want to put them in certain facilities, and each of
Speaker 4: those facilities have their own way to make sure that
Speaker 4: they can integrate back into society. And I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, you're not going to integrate a rapist or
Speaker 4: a pedophile back into society like, this is not going
Speaker 4: to happen. But they the the whole conversation that actually
Speaker 4: that portion about it, and they had this center that
Speaker 4: they wanted to open up, and what they were proposing
Speaker 4: was that they could in fact rehabilitate them and that
Speaker 4: it's just a mental disorder. And that was what some
Speaker 4: of the doctors were talking about. And I don't know
Speaker 4: if they actually went through with the whole thing, but
Speaker 4: that was what the paper was about, was that they
Speaker 4: were proposing that this was a mental disorder and that
Speaker 4: these this center that they wanted to bring them to
Speaker 4: was going to I think this was honestly a guys
Speaker 4: though to conduct some like unethical mental health experiment. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be really honest. And the way that they kind
Speaker 4: of worded it, I was like, hmmm, this is really interesting,
Speaker 4: but like I don't care. But I also thought it
Speaker 4: was a weird proposal that instead of putting them in
Speaker 4: a in a max facility, you're talking about having them
Speaker 4: it sounded like a home, but it wasn't. It was
Speaker 4: still like a facility quote unquote, but it was weird.
Speaker 4: It was a weird. It was a weird topic on
Speaker 4: that whole thing.
Speaker 3: So some human more human experimenting that's more like the
Speaker 3: Finish honestly, yeah, because that they Finland maybe is part
Speaker 3: of Scandinavia, but they are I mean, first of all,
Speaker 3: they don't consider themselves to be Scandinavian. Like their language
Speaker 3: does not look or sound in any way like you know,
Speaker 3: Danish or Norwegian or Swedish.
Speaker 1: They're they're isolated there. I'm trying to remember what their
Speaker 1: language is based off of. It's not Hebrew.
Speaker 2: It's somewhere in the Middle East where it's like that's
Speaker 2: their only Is it Venetian?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like the only language that's close.
Speaker 3: Might it might be? I mean they're you know, they're
Speaker 3: of course bordering Russia. They're they're bordering very closely on
Speaker 3: you know, Lithuania, Estonia, countries that have hold on to
Speaker 3: their their pagan beliefs and their pagan lifestyles for the
Speaker 3: absolute longest and still are you know, I say, like
Speaker 3: peak cultural celebration, peak cultural and national pride in the
Speaker 3: the whole of Europe. We can really you know, look
Speaker 3: at Lithuania, Estonia and there's.
Speaker 1: A yeah, which I always forget.
Speaker 2: Which that's to bring that up as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2: So there they have a eural Eurylic language family which
Speaker 2: is closely related to Estonian.
Speaker 1: So I was a little awful that.
Speaker 2: But to your point as far as how there's there's
Speaker 2: these cultural kind of almost like second cousins if you will,
Speaker 2: of them in the Estonians, which is crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's uh yeah, I mean to to like
Speaker 3: oversimplify it, you can like kind of divide Northern Europe
Speaker 3: up into the Germanics and the Slavs. And the Slavs
Speaker 3: is like eventually what is you know, Poland, Russia, Estonia.
Speaker 3: That's the the more Slavic countries if you will, very
Speaker 3: closely related to to the Germanics of course, you know
Speaker 3: with all the all the the the travel and the
Speaker 3: you know my grading of of groups and nations. You know,
Speaker 3: the russ the you know the Kievan russ that's where
Speaker 3: you get both, you know, the Russians and kiev from.
Speaker 3: Of course, around the Black Sea there was a there
Speaker 3: has always been a huge Gothic like and I don't mean.
Speaker 1: Like that there's the gods and the astro Goths.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, like those Gothics which you know are
Speaker 3: you know, like now cultural Gothics is a a descendant
Speaker 3: of Actually there's a whole timeline and it adds up.
Speaker 3: I've done I've done a show about that with with
Speaker 3: a good friend of mine. It was really fun to
Speaker 3: to break that all down. But yeah, so, and the
Speaker 3: the Cyrillic alphabet is different than the the Latin alphabet
Speaker 3: which we are using in the West, of course, which
Speaker 3: is also different from the Greek alphabet.
Speaker 2: Of course, right right, right, no doubt. So, yeah, we
Speaker 2: got an off on some weird tangents on this one.
Speaker 2: But it's kind of crazy to see how certain cultural
Speaker 2: things that a lot of Americans would think is specifically
Speaker 2: an American problem is something that is being seen all
Speaker 2: over the world in Europe. And I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know how many Americans are really familiar with the Netherlands
Speaker 2: or their culture, right, but to hear that y'all are
Speaker 2: seeing a lot of the same issues on a cultural thing,
Speaker 2: on a generational thing, on an economic level, like we're
Speaker 2: seeing a lot of the same things, and that that
Speaker 2: kind of gives me hope that if we're seeing the
Speaker 2: same problems, we can start attacking these problems in very
Speaker 2: similar ways and hopefully, fucking hopefully elevate the next generation globally.
Speaker 1: That's that's the idea anyway.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's up to us. That's up to
Speaker 3: our our generation too to do that. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm working on it myself. I got to a well
Speaker 3: soon to be eleven year old daughter and my son
Speaker 3: Wilter eight this year.
Speaker 1: Damn. So you got kids right around the same age
Speaker 1: that we have our kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a young dad, but I you know,
Speaker 3: I love being I love being a young father. I
Speaker 3: can I can still keep up with them, dude.
Speaker 1: That's I always saw that as the benefit.
Speaker 2: So many people gave me so much shit for having
Speaker 2: kids young, but it's like, dude, I mean, I would
Speaker 2: hate to be fifty and be producing a child like
Speaker 2: that would be hell. I know there's so many people
Speaker 2: that do it and hear these stories, but like, yo,
Speaker 2: by fifty, I'm hoping to be.
Speaker 1: Meeting my first set of grandkids. Like this is grove that.
Speaker 3: I mean. My sister is actually experiencing that. She'll be
Speaker 3: turning twenty six this year. And my parents were thirty
Speaker 3: seven and thirty eight when they when they got her.
Speaker 3: You know, they're they're well into their their sixties now,
Speaker 3: they're a few years off from retirements and my sisters,
Speaker 3: Like she's really noticing it that, you know, she can't
Speaker 3: like really be active, active with you know, our parents,
Speaker 3: not like my younger brother and me did for example.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that. Wait, how old you say she is?
Speaker 1: Twenty seven?
Speaker 3: She'll be turning twenty six in June.
Speaker 1: How active is she trying to be? I'm so confused.
Speaker 3: No, but also also growing up, you know, like our
Speaker 3: parents were were almost forty already when you know, when
Speaker 3: they had my when they had my sisters.
Speaker 2: So trying to keep up with the ten year old
Speaker 2: when they're in their fifties. Yeah, that also sounds shitty.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you know, like you're you're going through a
Speaker 3: midlife crisis and your daughter is going through puberty. Yay,
Speaker 3: Oh no, don't bring that up.
Speaker 4: No, I'm trying to survive, like the puberty situation that's unfolding.
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, no, yeah, this is so rough, Like
Speaker 4: it's so hard.
Speaker 3: My daughter almost eleven years old, and I mean she
Speaker 3: is like it's it's pre puberty already, and I yeah,
Speaker 3: oh god, I fear the worst. Like she's she's always rough,
Speaker 3: she's always been feisty, Like I can still see her
Speaker 3: like two, three years old standing in the kitchen, you know,
Speaker 3: teaching her mom and I a lesson, you know, like
Speaker 3: even with with the finger wagon and everything. Three year
Speaker 3: old guppy just yeah.
Speaker 1: No, it sounds like my ten year old daughter. I
Speaker 1: feel you in this.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and a redhead.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, triple down No.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doomed.
Speaker 4: I got a little feisty I got a little feisty
Speaker 4: spirit one too. So I mean her, I mean she's
Speaker 4: always been that way though she's little, but man, she's
Speaker 4: fiercer than ship. I'll give you that. So she's I
Speaker 4: mean puberty. Though I don't feel like enough people talk
Speaker 4: about what it's actually like to be a parent. They
Speaker 4: like glaze over the hard ship and they're like it's
Speaker 4: so wonderful, it's so great, and it's like, no, you're lying.
Speaker 4: You are lying. There's so much shit, Like you lie
Speaker 4: awake wondering if you've done the right thing. Did I
Speaker 4: yell too much? I spend enough time? What do they
Speaker 4: have to do? Like how to have you know, it's
Speaker 4: just a million different things. Like I'm so active in
Speaker 4: my son's social life because you know, I want to
Speaker 4: make sure that he's you know, doing okay and stuff,
Speaker 4: and I know, like all the drama that's happening with
Speaker 4: the entirety of sixth grade, and I'm just like, do
Speaker 4: these parents know what is going on with these children?
Speaker 4: And like straight up that so many of these parents
Speaker 4: do not know what's happening, because man, I know all
Speaker 4: the tea and I'm like, oh my god, if I
Speaker 4: knew these parents' numbers, honestly, I'd probably be telling them, Hey,
Speaker 4: by the way, check your kid's cell phone, check your kid.
Speaker 4: Why does your kid have a TikTok? Why is she
Speaker 4: making inappropriate videos of herself on TikTok? And what kills
Speaker 4: me is half of his class actually have tried to
Speaker 4: follow my personal TikTok, which is weird. And I can
Speaker 4: see them coming in and I can see all the
Speaker 4: little girls that he dated, and I can see like
Speaker 4: their friends, and I'm like, here, I am having a
Speaker 4: block freaking eleven twelve telve year olds on TikTok and
Speaker 4: I'm like, why are we It's so weird and they're like,
Speaker 4: your mom. We can see your mom, like, look at
Speaker 4: her cool stuff and this and that, and I'm like, why, no,
Speaker 4: I don't want you on my TikTok, this is not
Speaker 4: for children. Go away. So here I'm having to block
Speaker 4: all of them, and then they're like, why did your
Speaker 4: mom block me? Does she not like me? I don't
Speaker 4: know you. You're eleven. I don't want to know you.
Speaker 4: Leave my son alone. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that the majority of my kids friends
Speaker 2: don't believe them whenever they say that their dad's a podcaster,
Speaker 2: that that God helps so much, because heaven forbid they
Speaker 2: ever listen to this shit.
Speaker 1: No, I don't want that. This is not for the children.
Speaker 4: I do not I don't tell anybody. I'm like, I
Speaker 4: don't know what you're talking about. I stay at home mom.
Speaker 1: I love telling people conspiracy theorist, I love that.
Speaker 2: But God, I don't want my son's, my son's twelve
Speaker 2: year old homies and the girls he's dating to come
Speaker 2: listen to this show. Like in wond regard, they could
Speaker 2: grow up and it would be nice for them to
Speaker 2: know the world of growing up.
Speaker 1: And but also I don't need to be the one
Speaker 1: to tell everybody that Santa Claus ain't real. Like it's
Speaker 1: not my job, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's bad enough that my my mother is
Speaker 3: subscribed to me.
Speaker 1: Oh god, dude.
Speaker 4: My mom came into the live too, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: oh no, mother. I was like, everyone, everyone behave please.
Speaker 2: My mother and my grandmother listened to the show, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, first of all, I'm sorry, so.
Speaker 1: We're all clear here. I'm very sorry for whatever I've said.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Do you do so much foul language? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I but that's how I speak. No, you don't, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I clean it up when I'm around y'all. This is
Speaker 1: how I speak normally.
Speaker 3: It's not how I raised you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I marine court did that actually, But you know.
Speaker 4: I have a super supportive mother, so like pretty much
Speaker 4: I feel like the best mother on earth because she's
Speaker 4: absolutely amazing. But even then I'm still like, sh don't, don't.
Speaker 4: Don't talk about everyone, like, leave out some of the
Speaker 4: conversations please. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I I mean, I'm even the one who pointed
Speaker 3: her to where my like my show and my channel
Speaker 3: and like.
Speaker 4: You fucked up?
Speaker 3: Yeah I did, because like I was, I was seeing
Speaker 3: you know, like the shorts and the videos that I
Speaker 3: did like the most recently, and an old popped up
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh god, my mom is seeing this,
Speaker 3: Oh what I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a part of doing the content creation
Speaker 2: slash Internet world.
Speaker 1: It's out there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's out there in them shits, and so you we
Speaker 2: have to kind of be careful that we don't say
Speaker 2: too much, or if we do say too much, let
Speaker 2: it be known that it is ingest it is all
Speaker 2: jokes or whatever the case. But that's the other side
Speaker 2: of it is people are gonna interpret it however they want.
Speaker 2: Some people understand sarcasm, and they understand whenever we make
Speaker 2: a certain joke. But I've seen I've seen stand up
Speaker 2: comedians actually do bits about this. It's like, you know, dude,
Speaker 2: a famous comedian is doing a bit talking about some
Speaker 2: wild ass shit drugs or sex or whatever the case.
Speaker 2: And these people will comment on these clips and say,
Speaker 2: I can't believe you're saying these things.
Speaker 1: Pop up, bump up, and it's like, okay, pause.
Speaker 2: I was saying those jokes in a closed room at
Speaker 2: eleven thirty at night in a comedy club. Your algorithm
Speaker 2: fed this to you at nine thirty in the morning
Speaker 2: at your office. That's not my fucking problem. So like
Speaker 2: in the proper context, that joke was hilarious. You're getting
Speaker 2: offended about it, tracy out of context. That's not my
Speaker 2: that's not my fault. And it's like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I feel that.
Speaker 3: And you're seeing a minute long clip of like an
Speaker 3: hour and a half long show, like, yeah, totally.
Speaker 4: That's a problem though, Yeah, if people take clips of
Speaker 4: stuff and they don't actually know the whole context, Like
Speaker 4: you know, you'll see fights happen on the internet or something,
Speaker 4: but you don't actually ever know what led up to
Speaker 4: this whole situation, and people are canceling other people and
Speaker 4: it's like no, but like what's the backstory of it?
Speaker 4: And so when it comes to the internet situation, that's
Speaker 4: what's been the hardest part for me because like he's
Speaker 4: been doing this a long time and he do he
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck me. I'm over here, like yeah,
Speaker 4: but like I know so many people that like I
Speaker 4: don't really like I had to be really careful and
Speaker 4: selective how I want to say things, and like the
Speaker 4: people that are closest to me know my true humor.
Speaker 4: But I try really hard to not let all of
Speaker 4: it show on the internet for you know, ever, in
Speaker 4: all ways, because I probably had a darker human too though,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, one hundred percent, like most of the women
Speaker 4: in the plot in this whole conspiracy situation are held
Speaker 4: to such a different standard and are experiencing a lot
Speaker 4: more I don't want to use the word hate, but
Speaker 4: a lot more interesting comments and people than the males are.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot going on, and we've been you
Speaker 4: don't really notice.
Speaker 2: That I've never gotten an unsolicited titty pick in my DMS.
Speaker 2: I promise that Raven Lee has gotten an unsolicited dick
Speaker 2: pick in her DMS throughout. I'm just saying like there
Speaker 2: there were at different levels here. Yeah, people approach women
Speaker 2: differently and speak to you all differently. I've never had
Speaker 2: someone come at me offensively, crudely, No, what do I
Speaker 2: want that? For the record, I don't want that for you,
Speaker 2: But that's my point. A lot of guys just feel
Speaker 2: like they could take liberties because they're behind a keyboard,
Speaker 2: and women don't typically do that on their side of
Speaker 2: the conversation.
Speaker 3: I mean, we were, we were mentioning Heidi at the
Speaker 3: very beginning.
Speaker 1: He has gotten so much wild Oh god, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: Like I've had her on two times, I've I'm sure
Speaker 3: if I've been on her show yet, I believe I have.
Speaker 3: I've been on so many, I've had so many I
Speaker 3: feel that. But like she's always getting those comments like
Speaker 3: oh yeah, like you only got subscribes of viewers because
Speaker 3: you're hot. It's like, well, I mean.
Speaker 1: That it doesn't hurt, but it's not the reason.
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean it made them may draw them in initially.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, she's she's good looking, you know for
Speaker 3: European looking, that.
Speaker 4: She's very pretty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that always does well.
Speaker 2: Couldn't be because she's educated, well spoken and charming. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: that can't be it. It's clear, oh yeah, you're hot,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, totally okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll get you, you know, a few thousand subscribers
Speaker 3: and you know, like two and a half thousand fews
Speaker 3: on like a video with with archaics, like just because
Speaker 3: you're hot.
Speaker 2: Sure, But it's also not like she's posting thirst traps either.
Speaker 2: On Instagram. She's not posting like scandily clad images to
Speaker 2: get people to listen to her.
Speaker 1: She wants people to hear her, not see her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: And there's been there's been a lot of hate for
Speaker 4: a lot of the women that we've talked to and
Speaker 4: stuff of just you know, interesting comments of you know,
Speaker 4: like we shouldn't be in this space, that this is
Speaker 4: not a place for us to be able to speak.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's it's all the time. There's there's personally,
Speaker 4: I don't give a shit, like whatever you're gonna do
Speaker 4: you and that's that's fine, you know, I think it's
Speaker 4: it's interesting. We went on somebody's podcasts. It was one
Speaker 4: of my first actually going on to somebody's podcasts. And
Speaker 4: this was like a couple months ago, and it went
Speaker 4: very poorly. It was a live stream and it went
Speaker 4: very very poorly. And I I didn't say anything out
Speaker 4: of the box or anything. I honestly I sat there
Speaker 4: quietly just kind of like listening and seeing how it
Speaker 4: was flowing, and it just went was Jacob was kind
Speaker 4: of taken back by the comment section. I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: welcome to being a woman, and this is kind of
Speaker 4: what it's like.
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And the guy who was hosting is like, oh, man, yeah,
Speaker 2: use my wife's here at least now there's another woman
Speaker 2: to kind of, you know, shirk that.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why would you subject your wife to
Speaker 1: this like this was overtly like offensive, out of the
Speaker 1: box statements that were being made. And listen, I understand
Speaker 1: dark humor. I could even love dark humor.
Speaker 4: I probably have it more than anybody.
Speaker 1: Actually, I could understand some crude and even perverted humor.
Speaker 1: There was a way to go about that.
Speaker 2: This was not this. This was not that at all.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait, your wife does this with you?
Speaker 2: You on a weekly You're out of your fucking mind,
Speaker 2: dog Like whatever, cool.
Speaker 3: Do you unless she's as crazy as he is?
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I don't know, but yeah, watching
Speaker 2: that whole thing play out, I was like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: we don't do live streams. We do once a week
Speaker 2: we go live with our Patreon members who are of
Speaker 2: a certain tier, which we haven't done the plug yet.
Speaker 2: We might as well hear in a minute. But they
Speaker 2: are people who are members of this community. They love
Speaker 2: hearing what we have to say, and they want to
Speaker 2: hear it without the commercials and the ads.
Speaker 1: I have no problem going live with them.
Speaker 2: And we have only had maybe two or three situations
Speaker 2: in five years of somebody who came on speaking on
Speaker 2: some wild ass shit and getting put in their place
Speaker 2: and then maybe getting kicked off of Patreon, But like
Speaker 2: that is the rare exception. If you're willing to pay
Speaker 2: money to come on and talk shit to us face
Speaker 2: to face on a live stream, then like, I'm here
Speaker 2: for your smoke.
Speaker 3: But I mean, that's that's dedicated.
Speaker 1: That's dedicated.
Speaker 4: You're really dedicated to this. Like okay, I mean, good
Speaker 4: on you, I'm here for you.
Speaker 2: But but to the point though, like the women versus
Speaker 2: men content creation field, it's very strange, and the conspiracy
Speaker 2: community has always been a boys club. It has been
Speaker 2: for years and years and years, but in the last
Speaker 2: especially in the last two or three years, ever since COVID,
Speaker 2: more and more women are speaking on the conspiracy so
Speaker 2: which granted a lot of the murder mystery and the
Speaker 2: serial killer conversation that is more women centric.
Speaker 1: I would say, not saying more than men.
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's more it's more fifty to fifty as
Speaker 2: far as that goes, there's very successful cares.
Speaker 3: That's what really, you know, draws in the female audience.
Speaker 3: I mean, my my wife as well, you know she is,
Speaker 3: she's good friends with you know, with with another podcaster
Speaker 3: Brenda from Horrifying history, she does, you know, true crime
Speaker 3: and all of that, and not not it's it's it's
Speaker 3: a it's a great show and draws in, you know,
Speaker 3: draws in the crowd and the row's good stories and
Speaker 3: it's I guess you know, it's Yeah, it's a female thing.
Speaker 2: It's a type of content that more often than not
Speaker 2: females will listen to over males. And I'm not shitting
Speaker 2: on females or males or that genre for the record,
Speaker 2: but I'm saying, as far as the conspiracy conversation goes,
Speaker 2: we are a lot more equidescent now, are equal across
Speaker 2: the board now than we have been in forever, honestly,
Speaker 2: And there are so many more female content creators speaking
Speaker 2: on conspiratorial means, but in a feminine way. They're speaking
Speaker 2: on the medical industry, they're speaking on the birthing industry,
Speaker 2: they're speaking on the justice system, and how fucked up
Speaker 2: that is. The Epstein Files alone shows that, yes, no,
Speaker 2: we need to have this conversation from all angles and
Speaker 2: all sides. But the fact that there are still so
Speaker 2: many that look at women with a microphone as some
Speaker 2: sort of a threat to their masculinity. Once again, this
Speaker 2: is we need to embrace a new wave, if you will.
Speaker 1: Of yes, we need to embrace some tradition, but we
Speaker 1: also can leave certain traditions behind. I think we can
Speaker 1: all agree to this, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely, And it's like it was. Honestly, if
Speaker 3: it wasn't for for Heidi and the the show that
Speaker 3: I did with her, my Instagram would have blown up
Speaker 3: that the way it did. Like I there was a
Speaker 3: a year ago we did stuff on you know, Cabbage
Speaker 3: Babies and the the Orphan Trains and all that absolutely
Speaker 3: great shit. I you know, decided that, you know, like
Speaker 3: I should just start posting shorts like from everywhere that
Speaker 3: I can. I I'm you know, hosting another or co
Speaker 3: host on another podcast across the pond, the the owner
Speaker 3: slash main host there. He you know, used some Internet's
Speaker 3: program whatever to like really push out shorts on multiple
Speaker 3: platforms at the same time. And I was like, well,
Speaker 3: I guess I'll use that for mine too, Like why
Speaker 3: not give it a shot? The no opus is good?
Speaker 3: No he used Buffer?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: You can let like you can like even on the
Speaker 3: free version, like you can select three channels and just
Speaker 3: push it out there at the same time. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's basic, it's good. And it was a shorts
Speaker 3: that was created or generated on the pickle punk's phenomena.
Speaker 3: All right, it's uh, well it's it's messed up, it's
Speaker 3: it's basically. Yeah, babies still born, babies well preserved in
Speaker 3: a in a jar of.
Speaker 4: In the jars in a jar from aldeh Height.
Speaker 3: I've gotten a lot of comments that people have, you know,
Speaker 3: seen those in.
Speaker 4: Their seen entire exhibits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we have.
Speaker 3: One in in Amsterdam at the Rolic Museum. But that's
Speaker 3: that's you know, it's that's within the Amsterdam Medical Center,
Speaker 3: so that's really medical based. And she was she was
Speaker 3: talking about a a eighteen thousand private collection. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a lot.
Speaker 2: That person probably needs to be on a watch list,
Speaker 2: just on general principle.
Speaker 3: That that was a few hundred years ago.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: They used to house them in giant rows. They had
Speaker 4: them in all different specimen containers and would use them
Speaker 4: for various things. They would study them, they would take
Speaker 4: them out, they would use they would do stuff with
Speaker 4: their tissue. They would do all sorts of different things.
Speaker 4: They would cut them open to see what went wrong
Speaker 4: and they had.
Speaker 1: A medical thing that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, from medicinal scientific standpoint, that absolutely makes sense.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of I've gotten a lot of
Speaker 3: comments like, hey, you know, we've had those in my
Speaker 3: science class. It's like, well, yeah, if it's for educational purposes, sure,
Speaker 3: it's something different to have a private collection of eighteen thousands.
Speaker 3: Like she asked me insane, She asked me to like
Speaker 3: throw out just a ridiculous number, you know, or like,
Speaker 3: you know, guess guess how many it was, you know,
Speaker 3: private collection of this isn't that person guess how many.
Speaker 3: I was like, Ah, it's going to be some absolutely
Speaker 3: ridiculous number. I don't know, five hundreds, Sure, eighteen thousand.
Speaker 4: Eighteen thousand is a lot. So that so a lot
Speaker 4: of the like back in the day, when a lot
Speaker 4: of the training how like training institutes closed down or
Speaker 4: the surgical institutes are where they had these, they would
Speaker 4: actually auction off And this is a huge thing that
Speaker 4: a lot of people have gotten in trouble for when
Speaker 4: it comes to artifacts, is they would auction off artifacts
Speaker 4: and including medical grade everything and specimens and all of
Speaker 4: this stuff. The amount that you'd have to go through
Speaker 4: to be able to get to eighteen thousand is an
Speaker 4: insane amount of work as like that is that is
Speaker 4: years and years and decades of collecting this out of
Speaker 4: fetuses to be from housing.
Speaker 3: Money as well.
Speaker 2: We're talking two hundred years ago too. Is this some
Speaker 2: sort of fucking low level nobleman or some shit that
Speaker 2: had money?
Speaker 3: Like, uh, yeah, of course it was. I don't I
Speaker 3: don't know exactly, but that's like just that real is
Speaker 3: currently sitting at what is it two point three mil?
Speaker 3: I believe Oh wow, Christ Yeah, that that blew the
Speaker 3: fuck up and it it just like just my Instagram
Speaker 3: channel grew from what was it like two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty to now twelve thirteen hundreds, like just because that
Speaker 3: that real. Yeah, that's really that's really thanks to you know,
Speaker 3: thanks to Heidi, thanks to the research that that she
Speaker 3: has done and is willing to you know, openly speak about.
Speaker 3: So I'm very thankful. I mean still still shocked, but yeah,
Speaker 3: but you're great.
Speaker 4: I don't think it should be a I don't think
Speaker 4: it should be a male female situation. I think this
Speaker 4: is especially now in this day and age. I think
Speaker 4: this should be a hate. This isn't us versus them
Speaker 4: and like it shouldn't matter what sex we are or
Speaker 4: gender we are. You know, we should be able to
Speaker 4: come together and have these conversations. And your opinion is
Speaker 4: no less than my opinion considering you know, just what
Speaker 4: our generals are like, we should be able to have
Speaker 4: a conversation and understand that, like they're stupid across the board.
Speaker 4: Women are stupid, men are stupid. Like doesn't matter what
Speaker 4: religion or race you are, there's people that are dumb
Speaker 4: in all aspects. But really, when it boils down to
Speaker 4: it is that this is about sharing collective information and
Speaker 4: knowledge and having hard conversations to pose the questions against
Speaker 4: the narratives to try and find the actual truth. So
Speaker 4: maybe we could figure out something that we all collectively
Speaker 4: might be able to agree upon. You know, what truth
Speaker 4: is being hidden from us is what is actually the
Speaker 4: reality in which we live in because so much has
Speaker 4: changed and been erased and everything else, And with the
Speaker 4: I don't like AI at all, but with the advancements
Speaker 4: in certain AI like Stone Hinge is a big thing
Speaker 4: that I want to have a conversation about, hopefully coming
Speaker 4: up this week, because of what they found at Stone
Speaker 4: Hinge and what that shapes the entirety of completely. It
Speaker 4: takes away the narrative of what we have always thought
Speaker 4: as humans and like the timeline and everything and all
Speaker 4: of this, and so like, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, there have been there have been discoveries recently in
Speaker 3: Germany as well that really pushed back the European timeline
Speaker 3: a lot of the very first writing.
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, I just saw that forty thousand year old
Speaker 2: writing they just found.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, which was a few thousand years
Speaker 3: before the Mesopotamian script, right, Actually, so that pushes back,
Speaker 3: you know, the human advancement timeline another few thousand years.
Speaker 3: Like we were always always taught and always told that
Speaker 3: you know, Mesopotamia or the the the Greater Levant was,
Speaker 3: you know, the cradle of you know, civilized society. But
Speaker 3: now that you know, in Germany there have been writings
Speaker 3: found that are you know, thirty forty thousand years older
Speaker 3: than you know, those those scripts. You know, it really
Speaker 3: back to back the question like but was it really?
Speaker 3: I mean, my belief in that is that there were
Speaker 3: multiple cradles of society. You know, the the out of
Speaker 3: Africa theory has been debunked fucking years ago, but I
Speaker 3: mean I can believe and I'm willing to believe that
Speaker 3: there was one cradle of civilization. Sure not not the cradle.
Speaker 2: And I mean, even if the like the forty thousand
Speaker 2: year old text that they just found, right, And I'm
Speaker 2: not even saying that this takes away from the Mesopotamian
Speaker 2: area being the cradle of civilization. I'm saying that this
Speaker 2: pushes back that timeline further than what we previously thought.
Speaker 2: And I'm even not against the conversation of multiple cradles
Speaker 2: happening at the exact same time. The out of Africa
Speaker 2: theory has been debunked, but they can't debunk the fact
Speaker 2: that the a female subsaharent Africans DNA her mitochondria holds
Speaker 2: the genetic code of every genetic makeup on Earth. And
Speaker 2: that's still fascinating in and of itself. So it's like
Speaker 2: it may not be as clean as we have made
Speaker 2: it out to be. Like, oh, clearly we have only
Speaker 2: been around for twelve thousand years. No, no, no, wait,
Speaker 2: I'm at twenty thousand. Wait y'all, I'm at thirty four thousand.
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, possibly, maybe the scientists are making their
Speaker 2: best estimations they can with the information we have available
Speaker 2: as of this moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you can like even get into the
Speaker 3: whole you know, Tataria atlantis Harperborea limoria theory, which you know,
Speaker 3: with the people living that long, may may also kind
Speaker 3: of connect to it, you know, the fall of man,
Speaker 3: the fall into matter. That's and that's maybe also how
Speaker 3: they managed to, you know, build the pyramids with these
Speaker 3: just like hundred tons stones because you know, the earth
Speaker 3: as a whole wasn't as dense yet back then, so
Speaker 3: they would have been a lot lighter. And if humanity
Speaker 3: wasn't as dense back then, then you know, we probably
Speaker 3: would have lived a lot longer.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, the intelligence hypothesis behind Stonehinge is really interesting too,
Speaker 4: of what it's, what it's actually posing and stuff, because
Speaker 4: of how they actually believe it's the base of it
Speaker 4: is actually not just stones, but it does a lot more.
Speaker 4: And the way that it's sequenced, like there's no way
Speaker 4: if you haven't watched any videos on it, I highly
Speaker 4: suggest it because I don't want to give everything away,
Speaker 4: but it is so cool to actually really like look
Speaker 4: into what they're talking about. Even the scientists they woke
Speaker 4: each other up at like three am. The more and
Speaker 4: they're like, oh my god, what do we just find?
Speaker 4: What do we just discover? AI guess has been doing
Speaker 4: it for like over a year and it's broken down
Speaker 4: like every all the way down into the dirt and
Speaker 4: like done all these different things and like every scratch,
Speaker 4: every nick, every everything, it's analyzed. So that is actually
Speaker 4: kind of cool. The one use, you know, there is
Speaker 4: some good uses with AI. I will say that.
Speaker 3: I mean I do love how we're you know, slowly
Speaker 3: but surely, like really uncovering our past. I mean I'm
Speaker 3: following a following someone on TikTok and substack who is
Speaker 3: actually translating the Voyage Manuscript. Wow.
Speaker 1: Really, oh wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a project she has that she is undertaking.
Speaker 1: And she's using AI to do it because that's one
Speaker 1: of the ones that.
Speaker 3: She wants to know. She is she's just using whatever
Speaker 3: source available, and it is it is fascinating what she's
Speaker 3: what she's finding also with a lot of help from
Speaker 3: her community. Yeah of course, but yeah, the Voynag Manuscript
Speaker 3: is it's one of those texts that we still, you know,
Speaker 3: are struggling to understand and she is actually actively you know,
Speaker 3: in the project that is that is translating it.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: I know we just talked about this. I feel like
Speaker 2: there's a couple of months ago with the Voynick and
Speaker 2: to my knowledge it was still unbreakable. But I'm glad
Speaker 2: that there's teams that are out there working and you
Speaker 2: actually know this person that's fucking dope.
Speaker 3: I mean, I I know I know of her. I
Speaker 3: got yeah, but yeah, no, I I mean I saw
Speaker 3: a so few videos of her on on TikTok where
Speaker 3: she was, you know, talking about the latest discoveries and
Speaker 3: translations and all of that. Because she there's a lot
Speaker 3: of plans and plant material, et cetera, like being drawn
Speaker 3: also in the Voynag manuscript. So I believe like one
Speaker 3: of the angles that she's trying to trying to take
Speaker 3: is to try and find out like what kind of
Speaker 3: plant is is this? Like what does it really look like?
Speaker 3: Which country? Which which region is it? Is it native? Two?
Speaker 3: And does the language of that region? I believe she
Speaker 3: is a lot of it from Ireland, no surprise, there
Speaker 3: are such deep connection as to so many stuff. It
Speaker 3: really is, you know, so and so does the the
Speaker 3: Irish language or the ancient Irish language, does it you know?
Speaker 3: Kind of match with what I'm reading here? Does it
Speaker 3: match with what I'm I'm seeing here? And yes locally,
Speaker 3: but surely there is a translation coming. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: a it's a whole damn project, of course, because that
Speaker 3: is the Yeah, like one of the you know, single
Speaker 3: texts that is still left untranslated, and that is so
Speaker 3: incredibly hard because it's the the language used, and there's
Speaker 3: you know, there really no no cipher. Yes that is
Speaker 3: you know, developed to to be able to translate it,
Speaker 3: and she purposefully is not using AI.
Speaker 4: Good for her, for her, Yeah, that's awesome.
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Speaker 2: the gun laws in your country?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: So random?
Speaker 1: I just thought I wanted to ask that before we leave.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't get a chance to talk to
Speaker 1: many homies from the Netherlands, so like, because I've met
Speaker 1: some Dutch marines and for the record, they are just
Speaker 1: like us.
Speaker 2: They just talk funny. They're like the British Royal Marines.
Speaker 2: Like marines are a very similar mindset. We just all
Speaker 2: talk funny.
Speaker 1: But what is the gun laws in the Netherlands Quite strict?
Speaker 3: No, I have a Yeah, you have to have a
Speaker 3: very good reason to own one. First of all, you
Speaker 3: have to you know, of course, keep it in a safe,
Speaker 3: keep your gun and your AMMO separate.
Speaker 1: No. What yeah, yeah, so you can't just carry like,
Speaker 1: you can't just have.
Speaker 3: No, no, unless you're you know, law enforcements.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, that's that's foolishness. But that's a lot
Speaker 2: of European country are like that. That's why I was asking.
Speaker 2: I'm like I heard some European countries are a little
Speaker 2: more open. Some are very strict. So like, you can't
Speaker 2: just have a handgun and carry it on.
Speaker 3: You No, definitely not no, not you'll get arrested on
Speaker 3: the spot.
Speaker 4: And you can't have a knives either, right you, Like
Speaker 4: you can't carry them out in public, really that you can.
Speaker 3: But I believe the no, definitely, not that one. No, No,
Speaker 3: that was eighty years ago. No, but I do believe
Speaker 3: that the blade is not allowed to be any longer
Speaker 3: than the palm of your hands unless you are using
Speaker 3: it for work unless it's a tool. For example, you know.
Speaker 4: When baby hands me and I'm screwed.
Speaker 3: I mean that one, Yeah, that one would be would
Speaker 3: be a lot. It's it's frowned upon by you know,
Speaker 3: unless you're actually doing stuff with it, you know, beg.
Speaker 3: When I was a cook, I would carry you know,
Speaker 3: of course my you know my knives with me, my
Speaker 3: my chef knives. Who are I mean, they're quite big,
Speaker 3: you know, like the yeast. But you know those are
Speaker 3: considered tools, not weapons. Unless I use it to you know,
Speaker 3: slice that pig of a head, chef, then it's a weapon.
Speaker 3: I work in security. This is all stuff that I'm
Speaker 3: supposed to know.
Speaker 1: Okay, so wait for security? Can you carry a firearm?
Speaker 3: If I would be working as a security at the courthouses,
Speaker 3: for example, then yes I am allowed to carry a
Speaker 3: firearm as part of the job, but I would get
Speaker 3: training for that's where I am working currently. I do
Speaker 3: have to wear able to proof vest, but I am
Speaker 3: not allowed to carry a firearm, and only the specialized
Speaker 3: security is allowed to even wear handcuffs.
Speaker 4: What handcuffs are just out there just doing the mostest.
Speaker 3: I have also worked in like more localized law enforcements,
Speaker 3: so just you know, city wide, and we do get
Speaker 3: trained for that to use the at least the button
Speaker 3: and what is it, handcuffs and there are kind of
Speaker 3: trying to relax the rules.
Speaker 1: But I say, flexi cuffs or zip ties go a
Speaker 1: long way. Holy shit, this is wo Man's there's some
Speaker 1: things within the cultures of our countries that are so
Speaker 1: similar it sounds like, and then there's things like this
Speaker 1: that are like, oh god, we are so different never mind.
Speaker 3: I mean, then again, you know, we don't shoot up
Speaker 3: our schools, so.
Speaker 1: To be fair, mostly that's trans kids. Just we're on
Speaker 1: the same page. It'd be like.
Speaker 3: True, which is also not that common hair really, I mean,
Speaker 3: we we have them, of course, but you know, not here,
Speaker 3: there and everywhere.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 4: I mean. But also we have to really do look
Speaker 4: at it for the political pushes that just happened to
Speaker 4: be centered around when gun laws are being talked about heavily,
Speaker 4: and then just suddenly we have a very huge influx
Speaker 4: of school shootings. Because it's just it's a weird coincidence.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Many things that are similar, so many things that are different.
Speaker 2: That's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's you know.
Speaker 2: That's actually why I brought it up, because I had
Speaker 2: a feeling this is going to be something close to this,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I thought it would be different too.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to expect, to be honest, that's
Speaker 2: what it is.
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