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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Here's to Your Health With Joshua Lane. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>to Your Health discusses the current thinking and wellness, bringing

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<v Speaker 1>you the most influential thinkers in beauty, fitness, and longevity.

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<v Speaker 1>Your host, Joshua Lane, was part of the Doctor and

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<v Speaker 1>Wigmore team that helped bring wheat, grass sprouts and raw

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<v Speaker 1>foods to a worldwide audience and now the host of

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<v Speaker 1>Here's to Your Health. Joshua Lane.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to this edition of Here's to Your Health. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>your host, josh Lane, and my guest is doctor Thomas Leedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Leedy is an MD and also a graduate attorney

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<v Speaker 2>and Doctor Levy has a long history of being involved

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<v Speaker 2>with wellness issues, including the use of the importance of

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<v Speaker 2>vitamin C, the problems with root canal, all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>issues that today we kind of take for granted as

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<v Speaker 2>being well. Of course we know that, but when doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas Levy was discussing this and studying this, this subject

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<v Speaker 2>was really dismissed. And now it's great that if the

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<v Speaker 2>information is correct and if you persevere, then people do

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<v Speaker 2>learn about it. Doctor Thomas Levy, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Joshua very happy to have you on as we begin

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<v Speaker 2>the show, Doctor Levy, you are a graduate MD, practicing MD,

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<v Speaker 2>and also you are a graduate practicing attorney. And so

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<v Speaker 2>where did you receive your academic training?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I got my biology degree from Johns Hopkins University

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<v Speaker 3>in Baltimore, and then subsequently got my medical degree and

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<v Speaker 3>all of my postgraduate medical treatment, internship, residency, fellowship, and

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<v Speaker 3>faculty at the Tulane University School of Medicine. And then

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<v Speaker 3>much later, after I got into a few things that

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<v Speaker 3>we may or may not talk about, I decided it

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<v Speaker 3>was that idea to get a law degree too, and

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<v Speaker 3>I got graduated from the University of Denver School of

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<v Speaker 3>Law and then passed the bar.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Okay, so we know, sir, that you can study.

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<v Speaker 2>We do know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, very good, Okay, very good. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now now today, actually you have a subject which frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>I had never even heard about as an issue affecting us,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is yeah, and we've been working on removing

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<v Speaker 2>iron filings from fortified foods. Let me just repeat that

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<v Speaker 2>for the audience, removing iron filings from fortified foods. Now, please, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me about that. I never heard about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually it's been going on since nineteen forty one.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time, it was observed by our public health

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<v Speaker 3>authorities that there were populations of children and starving nations

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<v Speaker 3>that had iron deficiency anemia, and they said, well, we

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<v Speaker 3>can't possibly have that in the United States, so they

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<v Speaker 3>just decided with a genius move to start putting iron

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<v Speaker 3>in all food. Well, iron is what I call a

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<v Speaker 3>toxic nutrient. You absolutely need it at a certain minimal

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<v Speaker 3>level to function as coenzymes in your body and to

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<v Speaker 3>build enough of a blood plot. But ironically enough, the

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<v Speaker 3>way the body works, high levels of iron are also

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<v Speaker 3>what triggered extreme oxidative stress and program cell death. So basically,

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<v Speaker 3>the higher your iron level goes beyond what you absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>need is pure toxicity, increase heart disease, increase cancer, and

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<v Speaker 3>increased all cause mortality. That's probably your most important statistic.

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<v Speaker 3>The higher your iron level goes, the sooner you die

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<v Speaker 3>and the more diseases you have. Problem is, we've been

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<v Speaker 3>sort of brainwashed since I don't mean to be flipping

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<v Speaker 3>about this, since the days of pop by the sailor Man,

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<v Speaker 3>pop by the sailor Man eat his spinach, which was hot.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of iron, and because I'm super strong. And actually,

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<v Speaker 3>since I've started this, I've gotten some really nasty, nasty

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<v Speaker 3>emails and the texts from people, Why are you trying

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<v Speaker 3>to take out this important nutrient? Iron should be a

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<v Speaker 3>prescription item only, and it should be only given when

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<v Speaker 3>a doctor diagnoses specifically an iron deficiency anemia and then

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<v Speaker 3>gives you enough iron so that you can to rebuild

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<v Speaker 3>your blood count. But beyond that is pure toxicity.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, well I did not. That's just amazing information. Our

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<v Speaker 2>guest is doctor Thomas Levy. Doctor Thomas Levy is a

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<v Speaker 2>physic practicing physician, graduate of Tulane and also a graduate attorney.

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<v Speaker 2>Now about iron is essential, So in other words, you're

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not putting words in your mouth. Your position is

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<v Speaker 2>we should eat our iron foods like we should eat

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<v Speaker 2>spinach and we should eat beats. But really, in your opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>based on your scientific research, we should not be taking

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<v Speaker 2>iron supplements absolutely never.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, it's pre oxicity. And that's why I say, and

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<v Speaker 3>believe me, Philosophically, I want there to be less and

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<v Speaker 3>less prescription drugs and more and more supplements available without

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<v Speaker 3>intervening a doctor. Not the case with iron. Iron is

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely something that we've been misschooled on, and unfortunately lots

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<v Speaker 3>of docs don't have the scoop on it either. We

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<v Speaker 3>actually have so many cancer doctors where people have a

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<v Speaker 3>chronic anemia, but it's not an iron deficiency anemia. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a anemia of chronic disease, and they just give iron

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<v Speaker 3>because they think iron is good for anemia. No, it's

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<v Speaker 3>only good for iron deficiency anemia. And they actually end

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<v Speaker 3>up poisoning their patients even more by giving something they

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<v Speaker 3>don't need that actively increases the oxidative stress inside their body.

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<v Speaker 3>And we don't have a whole lot of time, but

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<v Speaker 3>let me just tell you, and this has comes from

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<v Speaker 3>my most recent book, The only cause of disease, The

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<v Speaker 3>only cause of disease are things that oxidize. The only

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<v Speaker 3>things that oxidize are toxins. And when I say oxidation,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they go in, they hit a biomolecule, protein, fat, enzyme,

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<v Speaker 3>and they take electrons away and then they inactivate that biomolecule.

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<v Speaker 3>So the more toxic you have, the more biomolecules you

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<v Speaker 3>have inactivated. And it's that pattern of inactivation that comprises

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<v Speaker 3>every disease. So the whole point and very very simple.

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<v Speaker 3>What involves a lot of data. Is the key to

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<v Speaker 3>good health is minimize your toxic exposure and maximize your

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<v Speaker 3>nutrient antioxidant intake.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, our guest is doctor Thomas Leedy, doctor Levy, is

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it practicing attorney as many as of experience with wellness?

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<v Speaker 2>Like to mention this way before people were paying much attention.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, back in the seventies, doctor Leevy was paying

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<v Speaker 2>attention to this, doctor Levy. So when we eat beats,

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<v Speaker 2>which I guess is you know everyone kind of loves

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<v Speaker 2>steam beats, So is that a good choice we want

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<v Speaker 2>to eat beats?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Any good balance of fresh vegetables, especially those that are

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<v Speaker 3>produced organically that not only have less toxins in it,

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<v Speaker 3>but more nutrients. That's another problem with our health is

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<v Speaker 3>due to our fertilizers and our lifestyle and external toxins,

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<v Speaker 3>the actual content nutrient content of wonderful, fresh tasting vegetables

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<v Speaker 3>is depleted dramatically over the last fifty or sixty years.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, But the more I'm not pro vegetarian. I

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<v Speaker 3>think meat is an essential part of the diet to

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<v Speaker 3>get a full balance of all the amino acids that

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<v Speaker 3>you need. But whether you're a vegetarian, whether you eat

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of meat, whether you eat a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of meat, it should always be of the purest form. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>because our primary sources of toxins are environmental okay, food, air,

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<v Speaker 3>and water. But even more importantly, and you alluded to

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<v Speaker 3>this before we started we were just having a chat,

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<v Speaker 3>the primary sources of toxes that cause all disease come

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<v Speaker 3>from pathogens. They come from pathogen growth infections or pathogen colonizations.

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<v Speaker 3>Because all the pathoges do as they multiply, as they

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<v Speaker 3>produce toxic metabolic products. And then especially in the nose

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<v Speaker 3>and throat, what you do you swallow them. When you

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<v Speaker 3>swallow them, you poison your gut. You change the microbiome

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<v Speaker 3>into a pathogen ridden microbiome. You poison the proximal gut

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<v Speaker 3>so that it becomes leaky, and just by not addressing

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<v Speaker 3>the pathogens in your mouth, nose, and throat infections and colonizations,

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<v Speaker 3>you ultimately turn your gut into a poison producing factory

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<v Speaker 3>that really exacerbates all diseases they go throughout your body.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's simple in one way, and it's not difficult

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<v Speaker 3>to do the right things.

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<v Speaker 1>There.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean you go to the drug store and

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<v Speaker 3>you see aisles and aisles and aisles of gut products. Okay, constipation, diarrhea, acid, nausea,

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<v Speaker 3>all these sort of things. That's because nearly everybody has

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<v Speaker 3>this pathage and colonization that's never been addressed. There's things

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<v Speaker 3>you can do about it, but when you do address it,

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<v Speaker 3>these gut things resolve dramatically. I've actually had unsolicited I've

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<v Speaker 3>had emails for patients who have started doing what's called

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<v Speaker 3>hydrogen peroxide nebulization that cleans out the nose and throat

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<v Speaker 3>from these pathogen colonizations. And in one case, a woman's

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen year old child son, over the course of a

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<v Speaker 3>month or two, completely resolved his prose disease that he

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<v Speaker 3>had had for many years and he had been bedridden.

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<v Speaker 3>Another woman had a family just with black mold disease.

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<v Speaker 3>They had all been sick for years. They all started

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<v Speaker 3>doing this that all resolved. Point being is the gut

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<v Speaker 3>regenerates itself very quickly if you stop poisoning it. Didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to go off on a hall attention. It's really

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<v Speaker 3>a critical factor that plays into all diseases. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying a normal gut, everything goes away. But

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<v Speaker 3>you get a normal gut, everything gets better.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, great information are for those just tuning into

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<v Speaker 2>the show. Our guest is doctor Thomas Leevy. Doctor Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>Leevee is an MD and also a graduate practicing attorney,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's been following these ideas on wellness fifty years,

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<v Speaker 2>which is really only when you get to be older

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<v Speaker 2>men the way doctor Leevy and I are. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>actually use it words like fifty years and it's people saying, oh, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years, we get it. You know, you can't possibly

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<v Speaker 2>notice when you're twenty, doctor Leevy, what the statements just

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<v Speaker 2>made about problems with the nose and mouth as far

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<v Speaker 2>as promoting ill health in US. So, if you don't mind,

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation about root canal has been a topic that

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I was a young man, people said, oh, Joshua,

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<v Speaker 2>go take a hike. Don't talk to me about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have You're just you're an airhead at best,

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<v Speaker 2>really criminal, but their head at best. And so doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Leevy at this point, since not only do we have

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<v Speaker 2>problems with root canal, but the new technology of implanting

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<v Speaker 2>teeth drilling into the jaw. Can you please talk about

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<v Speaker 2>root canal and the problems associated with root canal that

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<v Speaker 2>you have been studying for at least forty years and

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<v Speaker 2>probably closer to fifty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me start by making a very dramatic mold

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel as completely scientifically validated statement, which is,

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<v Speaker 3>one or more root canal teeth in someone's mouth represents

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<v Speaker 3>the primary reason for them to either have a heart

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<v Speaker 3>attack or get breast cancer.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, that is as.

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<v Speaker 3>Clear cutting, straightforward as I can make it. All heart

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<v Speaker 3>disease in the carinary arteries. You actually find colonization of

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<v Speaker 3>pathogens in the mouth growing inside the blood vessel of

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<v Speaker 3>the carinary artery, which causes an immune response to try

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<v Speaker 3>to get rid of it, and that immune response causes

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<v Speaker 3>a proliferation called atheroma that ultimately blocks it off. But

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<v Speaker 3>when you clean out the mouth and get the nutrients

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<v Speaker 3>and antioxidants up and I'm a cardiologist, incidentally, the board

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<v Speaker 3>certified cardiologist atheroscrosis not only stops evolving, it resolves the

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<v Speaker 3>same teeth you chew on them. You express limph into

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<v Speaker 3>the system and they drain into the breasts and that

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<v Speaker 3>the primary cause of breast the seats. Why because one

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<v Speaker 3>percent of root canal treated teeth are chronically infected and

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<v Speaker 3>have most of the time of detectable abscess at the

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<v Speaker 3>root tips. Other times the abscess is less apparent, but

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<v Speaker 3>the tooth is always infected because you rout it out

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<v Speaker 3>the nerve and pulp supply of the tooth. You cored

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<v Speaker 3>out a physiology. You took out the connective tissue, the

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<v Speaker 3>blood vessels, the nerves, and the immune cells. Filled that

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody gets an acute infection and it really hurts. So

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<v Speaker 3>all the nerves. So they eliminate the pain of the infection,

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<v Speaker 3>but they don't eliminate the infection. So this has been

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<v Speaker 3>kidney disease, and you know this might sound a little cruel,

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<v Speaker 3>or whateverbody had rabbits and he would take an extracted

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<v Speaker 3>days die of the same disease that the person had.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only that, he would take that same root canal

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<v Speaker 3>or forty consecutive rabbits, and it still had enough potency

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<v Speaker 3>to kill all of them. So these toxins are enormously potent,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're especially potent because what also happens at a

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<v Speaker 3>become phenomenally toxic when you put them in an oxygen

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<v Speaker 3>deprived or completely oxygen depleted environment. Anaerobic so anaerobic metabolism

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<v Speaker 3>makes these pathages explode with toxicity like botulism. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>happens with botulism. And in fact, the toxins that doctor

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<v Speaker 3>years ago more or more all contained high tox Since that,

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<v Speaker 3>we're far more toxic than batualism, which traditional mainstream medicine

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<v Speaker 2>Our guest is doctor Thomas Levy. Doctor Levy is an MD,

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<v Speaker 2>has been doing this for many many years on wellness

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<v Speaker 2>and is really an important figure. Doctor Leevy. These ideas

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<v Speaker 2>about root canal, which I have been reading about since

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<v Speaker 2>is this considered now the information you're offering now, are

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<v Speaker 2>more and more people realizing, oh yeah, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>listening to you. Further, not only they're not listening to you,

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<v Speaker 2>but now they're drilling holes in our jaw to stick in.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, we all want to look good cosmetically. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, except that you know, we're not statues

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<v Speaker 2>where real people. You know, we need blood supply. So

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<v Speaker 2>is the problem worse now or is it better?

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<v Speaker 3>It is better, okay. I mean we're not close to

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<v Speaker 3>reaching the significant majority of doctors and dentists because it's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of a collaborative effort, if you will, uh to

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<v Speaker 3>realize the impact of infections and dental toxins on general health.

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<v Speaker 3>But we have a number of organizations that have now

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<v Speaker 3>International Academy of Biological Dentistry and Medicine. Another group that

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be talking to an Argentina in a

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<v Speaker 3>couple months called Biominds and strictly talks about getting doctors

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<v Speaker 3>and dentists together so that they realize dentistry is not

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<v Speaker 3>something separated from the body. I mean they they should

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<v Speaker 3>put dentistry in the medical school and the dentists should

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<v Speaker 3>be a special in dental medicine. That's what we useduld

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<v Speaker 3>be doing. But it's not intended to be an insult,

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<v Speaker 3>but an accurate statement is that the traditional mainstream denis

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<v Speaker 3>is a pure mechanic. Pure mechanic, I mean there's no

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<v Speaker 3>consideration of biological impact or infectivity or reactivity to different medals.

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<v Speaker 3>For a long time, doctor Huggins had a test that

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<v Speaker 3>the different metals that they put in different compounds, and

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<v Speaker 3>The pandemic changed so much in terms I believe of

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<v Speaker 3>public perception of the type of healthcare people were getting,

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<v Speaker 3>the type of attitude that their doctors had. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we had so many situations where it was clear the physicians,

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<v Speaker 3>some of them were being coerced. Some of them were

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<v Speaker 3>being coerced to pursue treatments that not only were not good,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were bad for the patient, but they generated

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<v Speaker 3>money for them in the hospitals. And that really has

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more people, especially today with our Internet and

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<v Speaker 3>our artificial intelligence, people can get information just like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying it's always correct information, but you can

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<v Speaker 3>get lots of different sources of information. And ultimately that's

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<v Speaker 3>if you just pick a doctor or dentist out of

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<v Speaker 3>going to do well. I say one thing frequently to

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<v Speaker 3>do for your long term health is to see and

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<v Speaker 3>utilize a traditional mainstream dentist. But the single best thing

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<v Speaker 3>see and utilize the surfaces of a well trained biological bist.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I agree with that great information from doctor Thomas Levy.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Levy is a practicing physician, a former cardiologist, graduate

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<v Speaker 2>a graduate attorney. And we've been discussing removing iron filings

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<v Speaker 2>from fortified foods and also problems with a root canal

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<v Speaker 2>which are really quite serious and can cause make it really,

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<v Speaker 2>really sick. And that information has been around for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe people starting to learn that. But doctor Levy, Sir,

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<v Speaker 2>I do completely agree with you, and I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 2>you said that The COVID nineteen pandemic. Terrible errors that

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<v Speaker 2>more people than say, six or seven or eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>When you were giving this information. Some people said, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we like Tom and we agree, and most people said, now,

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<v Speaker 2>now he's must be a wacky person. It couldn't possibly

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<v Speaker 2>be true. So now I'm thinking that many more people

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<v Speaker 2>understand exactly what you're saying. Not one hundred percent of

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<v Speaker 2>This subject actually has become almost mainstream. I'm in California,

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<v Speaker 2>That means, maybe I'm just guessing at this maybe sixty

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<v Speaker 2>it was thirty percent. And I'm making up these numbers

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<v Speaker 2>because it was less people. But now people are really

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<v Speaker 2>alert to these problems, and these are real problems, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe now they're being addressed. For those just tuning into

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<v Speaker 2>the show, our guest is doctor Thomas Levy. Doctor Leevey's

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<v Speaker 2>is an MD to leave at this juncture, How can

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<v Speaker 2>listeners have here's to your health. Contact you to find

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<v Speaker 2>out more about the books you have written, your work

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<v Speaker 2>on vitamin C and really the fifty years of work

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<v Speaker 2>that you have been teaching.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you for asking. I never hired from the public.

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<v Speaker 3>My personal email is available to anyone. It's my initials

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<v Speaker 3>d at yahoo dot com. And my website that has

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of information, great articles for people and also

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<v Speaker 3>links to purchasing my books that people are interested is

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Levi, MD dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Actually, so let me give me say better.

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<v Speaker 3>I have an Instagram page, ok at d R Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, our guest doctor Toms leave doctor Levy, do me

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<v Speaker 2>favor give us your email again. Just make sure I

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<v Speaker 2>got to correct. What's your email?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's t E L e v Y M

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<v Speaker 2>D at yahoo dot com. And now what about your books,

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<v Speaker 2>because you have some, you know, really important books on

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<v Speaker 2>I remember after some of your books from the eighties actually, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly remember Hal Huggins for sure and Western Price.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, is a younger man read those books and man,

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<v Speaker 2>they were important books and those men were really out

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<v Speaker 2>there on their own with these ideas. So what about

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<v Speaker 2>your books? Where can we purchase them?

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<v Speaker 3>Purchase them from my website tom LYVMD dot com, some

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<v Speaker 3>of them, not all of them from Amazon. That's another

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<v Speaker 2>Alrighty, and uh are you teaching? Are you going? Are

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>So what about if people want to hear you speak

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I tell you what. You go to any of

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<v Speaker 3>And there's really tons of videos there most of the

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<v Speaker 3>time when I give a lecture, and probably over the

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<v Speaker 3>hundred to one thousand range, I suppose, And many of those,

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<v Speaker 3>with permission, of course, were recorded and then I put

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<v Speaker 3>up on the site and lots of different subjects, but

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<v Speaker 3>they all pivot around ultimately the cause of disease being toxins,

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<v Speaker 3>disease being oxidative stress, and the need to eliminate toxins,

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<v Speaker 3>eliminate toxins, kelate toxins, detoxified toxins, and bring in nutrients

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<v Speaker 3>and nutrients and antioxidants to deal with it. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>the ultimate treatment as it turns out, and it's even

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<v Speaker 3>worse now with the post COVID we have many people

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<v Speaker 3>now with persistent spike protein. This is causing an enorm

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<v Speaker 3>and of course that's another pathogen related toxins. So remember

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<v Speaker 3>I said pathogens are the culprit, except if you're exposed

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<v Speaker 3>their metabolism. And this persistent spike protein is continuing to

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<v Speaker 3>devastate people across the planet now affecting hundreds of millions

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<v Speaker 3>of people, probably thirty to forty million people in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States. But we do have some treatments for it

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<v Speaker 3>that have been quite successful in resolving it at a

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<v Speaker 3>high percentage level, and those are available at the reared

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's fantastic. Well, a great interview. Our guest has

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<v Speaker 2>many years ago, also a graduate attorney and Doctor Levy

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<v Speaker 2>the National Health Federation, organization that I'm very happy to

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<v Speaker 2>we had a great interview today with doctor Thomas Levy.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to invite them back to the show again.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Josh Lane. You're listening to hears to your Health.

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<v Speaker 2>We take a short break and we'll be right back

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<v Speaker 2>after these important message.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi friends. Monica Brandt here for all Alife number one

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to this edition of Here's to Your Health. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>your host Josh Laine, and my guest is Scott Tips.

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<v Speaker 2>And Scott Tips is the president of the National Health Federation,

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<v Speaker 2>and the National Health Federation, which was founded in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States in nineteen fifty five, is America's oldest health

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<v Speaker 2>protection health consumer protection organization. They do great work, frankly

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<v Speaker 2>on many subjects, and Scott is a regular contributor to

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<v Speaker 2>the show, so I'm really proud when Scott Tips is on.

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<v Speaker 2>And Scott is most of the time based in Europe

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<v Speaker 2>where he goes to Codex meetings which help protect not

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<v Speaker 2>just the health of the American public, but the health

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<v Speaker 2>of the public worldwide because so many nations work together

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<v Speaker 2>now as far as passing up information, I'll use the

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<v Speaker 2>word codes for health of consumers worldwide. Scott Tips, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Josh, and it's a pleasure to be back on.

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<v Speaker 2>No thanks, I'm really happy to have you on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I always enjoy when you discussed with these important ideas

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<v Speaker 2>about really kind of the legislative approach to ideas, which

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't realize really how complex the

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<v Speaker 2>subject this is. Now, you just recently were in Geneva

476
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<v Speaker 2>in just you know, in July this month working on

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<v Speaker 2>some important new ideas. So what happened at the most

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<v Speaker 2>recent Codex meeting that you participated in with other members

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<v Speaker 2>of the National Health Federation as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, It's kind of funny, Josh, because these Codex meetings

481
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<v Speaker 5>are a lot like or you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>board of nothing happening, just sort of dry detail, and

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<v Speaker 5>then all of a sudden there's a lot of excitement,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of arguments, a lot of debate, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of contention, and then that dies away and then it's

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<v Speaker 5>dull again. So this meeting was kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a week long meeting, it's in a big conference

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<v Speaker 5>hall in Geneva, Switzerland, and probably there were I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>get an accurate count, but I'd say about three hundred

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<v Speaker 5>delegates there total. And n HF, the National Health Federation

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<v Speaker 5>of which I'm the president and the head delegate, was

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<v Speaker 5>one of those delegations there. So we're permitted to participate

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<v Speaker 5>actively in these meetings and to discuss our viewpoint and

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<v Speaker 5>to criticize other viewpoints. Although they're kind of funny that way,

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<v Speaker 5>you can't criticize too much. It's deemed to be rude,

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<v Speaker 5>no matter how weird the other viewpoint might be. So

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<v Speaker 5>at this meeting, there were a number of things that

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<v Speaker 5>came up, and one of them, actually that turned out

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<v Speaker 5>to be a surprise contentious issue was what happens with

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<v Speaker 5>food labels during an emergency. Well, the industry, represented there

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<v Speaker 5>by front groups and infiltrators in the country delegations, they

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<v Speaker 5>want a special exemption in the time of emergencies. What

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<v Speaker 5>that means is they don't have to put all the

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<v Speaker 5>essential information on the food label if it's being used

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<v Speaker 5>in an emergency situation, which sounds kind of okay, right,

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<v Speaker 5>except for one thing. So you would think during an

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<v Speaker 5>emergency that people want to rush the product to the

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<v Speaker 5>site of the emergency as soon as possible. But what

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<v Speaker 5>the industry wants to do is, oh, wait, we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to design these labels first, they're going to have less information.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to slap them on the product. Oh, and

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<v Speaker 5>then we'll rush them to the emergency location. That's their

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<v Speaker 5>idea of dealing with an emergency. So we were pointing

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<v Speaker 5>this out and saying NHF was saying, you know, if

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<v Speaker 5>you have time to print a new label before slapping

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<v Speaker 5>it on a product and shipping it out for an emergency,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not an emergency. And also the other problem is,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, this is just a convenient excuse. Emergencies are

519
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<v Speaker 5>always convenient excuse for shafting the consumer or the voter,

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<v Speaker 5>whatever it may be, whomever it may be, and so

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<v Speaker 5>this is an instance where they'll use the excuse, Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>it's an emergency. They have an outbreak of mumbo jumbo

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<v Speaker 5>disease in the congo. So we're going to delude all

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<v Speaker 5>these people into thinking they're getting a great product when

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<v Speaker 5>the label doesn't tell them what's actually in the product.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's just a big scam. And yet, unfortunately, now

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<v Speaker 5>and keep in mind, this is a proposal for new work.

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<v Speaker 5>It's nowhere near being accomplished. But what will happen is

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<v Speaker 5>it will be accomplished eventually because Codex has never met

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<v Speaker 5>a standard that it didn't like. And what that means

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<v Speaker 5>is you could have the worst possible standard in the

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<v Speaker 5>world like the one they did for maximum upper permitted

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<v Speaker 5>levels for vitamins and minerals, which was a joke, right,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and they still want it to be accepted.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is the problem that was part of what

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<v Speaker 5>was discussed there. I don't know if you want me

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<v Speaker 5>to go on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, for those that tuning into the show, our guest

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<v Speaker 2>is Scott Tips. Scott Tips is the president of the

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<v Speaker 2>National Health Federation. The National Health Federation found that in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty five, is America's oldest consumer protection association and

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<v Speaker 2>also involved with protecting consumers around the world. Scott, you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that you at the National Health Federation you have

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<v Speaker 2>voting rights. I think that you are the only consumer

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<v Speaker 2>organization actually has voting rights. Other than you, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>the countries of the world. Am I correct in saying that?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I wish we did have voting rights, but we don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Had we had voting rights, we could have stopped Practope.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean about ten years ago when it won by

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<v Speaker 5>one vote. But no, they don't allow I, nngos or

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<v Speaker 5>even NGOs to have voting rights. But what we have

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<v Speaker 5>is just as important sense because they only vote on

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<v Speaker 5>a few issues. Generally they advance the standards and the

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<v Speaker 5>guidelines and the codes of practice by a process they

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<v Speaker 5>call consensus, which is basically the chairman or the chairwoman

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<v Speaker 5>looking around the room saying how many people spoke out

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<v Speaker 5>against a standard, how many people spoke in favor of

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<v Speaker 5>a standard, and they kind of weigh everything in the balance,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they make a mental calculation and decide, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>we have consensus for moving forward. Well, even though NHF

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<v Speaker 5>cannot vote, if you speak out a lot, you add

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<v Speaker 5>to the noise in favor or against a standard. So

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<v Speaker 5>in a sense you are voting because the sort of

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<v Speaker 5>the general cacophony of noise is added to. And we're

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<v Speaker 5>very vocal at these meetings. We speak out a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>This most recent meeting we didn't speak out as much.

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<v Speaker 5>There wasn't as much to speak out on. But when

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<v Speaker 5>you combined our conference room documents that it's our written

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<v Speaker 5>submissions along with what we usually speak out on, we're

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<v Speaker 5>really punching above our weight at these meetings.

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<v Speaker 2>And Scott may ask, since you have been now, you've

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<v Speaker 2>been involved with the National Health Federation for is it

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<v Speaker 2>what nineteen years now?

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<v Speaker 5>It's been forty years this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, forty years but you've been to president for

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen years.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're right, nineteen and a half years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So as a very young man, because you were

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<v Speaker 2>a graduate attorney right right out you got of law school,

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<v Speaker 2>so you kind of got involved pretty quickly after you

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<v Speaker 2>got out of law.

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<v Speaker 5>School, about six years. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And Scott, so now that you and I are both

585
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<v Speaker 2>really older men. Now, now that we're older men, would

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<v Speaker 2>you say that, indeed, that the national health iteration and

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<v Speaker 2>the whole idea of food as a healing tool is

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<v Speaker 2>no longer dismissed the way it was when you were

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<v Speaker 2>a much younger man.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have more stature?

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<v Speaker 5>I would say yes, and certainly more adherents. There are

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<v Speaker 5>more people out there following our health regimen and that

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<v Speaker 5>sort of thing. So yeah, I definitely think we have

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<v Speaker 5>the big problem though. It's the health food stores of

596
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<v Speaker 5>olden days are mostly gone. You know, the true believers

597
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<v Speaker 5>who belive in your right to health freedom, believed in

598
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<v Speaker 5>the products and all that. They've largely been supplanted now

599
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<v Speaker 5>by the corporate suits who they could be selling shopping

600
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<v Speaker 5>carts for all they care. True, Yes, so that's the

601
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<v Speaker 5>big change, and they're more likely to be have that

602
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<v Speaker 5>corporate mentality that they don't want to do anything to

603
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<v Speaker 5>alarm the government, so they aren't going to take chances

604
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<v Speaker 5>risking their revenue stream by bringing out some sort of

605
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<v Speaker 5>fantastic product that might heal everyone. But boy raised the

606
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<v Speaker 5>ire of the FDA and big farm men doing so

607
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<v Speaker 5>right well.

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<v Speaker 2>Our guest is Scott Tips, and Scott Tips is the

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<v Speaker 2>president of the National Health Federation, and the National Health Federation,

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<v Speaker 2>founded in nineteen fifty five, is America's oldest consumer protection

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<v Speaker 2>organization and actually protects consumers around the world. And Scott

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<v Speaker 2>is regularly in Europe at Codex meetings, which are meetings

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<v Speaker 2>in which I guess, I don't know. Do all the

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<v Speaker 2>countries in the world participate in these meetings, Scott, when you're.

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<v Speaker 5>There, pretty much they pick and choose their committees, just

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<v Speaker 5>like we do. For instance, we don't go to the

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<v Speaker 5>Import Export Committee hosted by the Australian government because there's

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<v Speaker 5>nothing in there for us to weren't spending that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of money to get to Australia to attend a meeting

620
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<v Speaker 5>and all of that. So we pick and choose, and

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of other countries, especially the poorer countries, do

622
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<v Speaker 5>the same thing. But the US, the EU, Canada, Australia,

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<v Speaker 5>they pretty much go to every committee meeting and Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I always like to mention in these conversations

625
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<v Speaker 2>is I guess it was a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you at the with the National Health Federation at

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<v Speaker 2>these Codex meetings were able to reduce the amount of aluminum. Aluminum,

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<v Speaker 2>which is as you point out, I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 2>this aluminum is not naturally occurring. Aluminum was actually Boux site.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be refined into making aluminum. But they

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<v Speaker 2>were using a lot of aluminum in food products and

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<v Speaker 2>we Americans, and I guess you're as well, we ended

633
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<v Speaker 2>up getting toxic amounts or shouldn't say toxic ammounts, but

634
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<v Speaker 2>we're getting way too much aluminum that really was not

635
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<v Speaker 2>good for us. Can you please just repeat that because

636
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:11.280
<v Speaker 2>people are so shocked to hear that, because they think,

637
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<v Speaker 2>hell sometimes they think health.

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<v Speaker 4>Foods are you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>You just guys like to you know, grow your hair

640
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<v Speaker 2>along and you know, dance around in fields. They have

641
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.639
<v Speaker 2>no idea actually what's really going on. Because the mainstream

642
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.119
<v Speaker 2>media manages to make us look dopey. They try to

643
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:26.960
<v Speaker 2>make us look ridiculous, And so what was it about

644
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<v Speaker 2>aluminum that was like so shockingly bad, but that the

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<v Speaker 2>National Health Federation under europe auspices was able to reduce

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<v Speaker 2>to help us.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you explain the situation so incredibly well, Joshua. I

648
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<v Speaker 5>don't know how much I have to add to it,

649
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<v Speaker 5>but having said that, I'll do my best, which is

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00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:53.719
<v Speaker 5>at the Codex Committee on Food Additives, one of the

651
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<v Speaker 5>topics that came up for discussion in two thousand and

652
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<v Speaker 5>eight was aluminum in spices, herbs, free flowing food products

653
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<v Speaker 5>because aluminum, because it's so slick, it makes a good

654
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<v Speaker 5>food flow additive. You know, when they have machines and

655
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<v Speaker 5>like that are mixing batters and mixing different powders together,

656
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<v Speaker 5>the aluminum helps it all flow. Well, a lot of

657
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<v Speaker 5>people don't know that in their salt and pepper, especially

658
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<v Speaker 5>the pepper, there was aluminum. So we were one of

659
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<v Speaker 5>the first, if not the first, to object to this practice.

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<v Speaker 5>And I still remember years later now that the food

661
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<v Speaker 5>industry representative, the Beverages and Grocers Association, but they complained,

662
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<v Speaker 5>they said, oh, without aluminum in our food as a

663
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<v Speaker 5>free flow agent, the equipment will catch fire. And burn.

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<v Speaker 5>So my response to that was, you have a ton

665
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<v Speaker 5>of engineers on your payroll, pay them to fix the

666
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<v Speaker 5>problem so it doesn't start a fire and burn just

667
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<v Speaker 5>because you aren't using aluminum anyway. Joined it at the

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<v Speaker 5>hip in opposing this was the European Union, and together

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<v Speaker 5>we were able to get removed fifty percent of the

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<v Speaker 5>products that we eliminated the aluminum and the other fifty

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<v Speaker 5>percent we got about fifty percent reduction and aluminum content.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was a big thing in those days because

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<v Speaker 5>it was really hard to go up against the industry.

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<v Speaker 5>It's really hard to go up against a standard that

675
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<v Speaker 5>was well on its way to being passed, and yet

676
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<v Speaker 5>we were able to do it and we won. This

677
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:04.519
<v Speaker 5>was in our Chinese meetings, so these were not cheap

678
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<v Speaker 5>trips to take. We had to fly over to China

679
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<v Speaker 5>two thousand and eight, two thousand and ten, twelve, and

680
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<v Speaker 5>then I think fourteen until we finally won.

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<v Speaker 2>So really, the National Health Federation was an religious position

682
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<v Speaker 2>to really reduce the amount of aluminium foods, which I

683
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<v Speaker 2>think everyone agrees with is like, okay, that was really

684
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<v Speaker 2>a great thing, But I don't remember reading about that

685
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<v Speaker 2>in national press here in America. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>got any kind of coverage because I pay attention to

687
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<v Speaker 2>food issues and I never remember seeing it, you know,

688
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<v Speaker 2>fifteen or twenty years ago. I don't remember any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of conversation. So again, as far as you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>received no coverage in the mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't see any either, but there must have been

692
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<v Speaker 5>something like in an industry journal or something. The funny

693
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<v Speaker 5>thing is that even though we have the European Union

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<v Speaker 5>to thank for its support in doing this, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of times these countries are in this case a region,

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<v Speaker 5>they're really kind of reluctant to attack strongly another delegation,

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<v Speaker 5>so that leaves it for me to do that dirty

698
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<v Speaker 5>work to make them look bad and rub their noses

699
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<v Speaker 5>in the nonsense of what they're speaking about. And this

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<v Speaker 5>is what happened at the recent meeting too, because when

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<v Speaker 5>we were discussing the emergency label changes in the Canadian

702
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<v Speaker 5>delegate I can't even pronounce his name, but he spoke

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<v Speaker 5>up and he threw all these platitudes and buzzwords at

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<v Speaker 5>the assembly. He said, oh, we have capacity building that'll

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00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:50.239
<v Speaker 5>take care of the problem, and this and that. He

706
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<v Speaker 5>just used a bunch of nonsense words that made a

707
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<v Speaker 5>politician look like a great order. He was so bad

708
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<v Speaker 5>and it's just like a joke. I almost laughed out

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<v Speaker 5>loud because I couldn't believe what I was hearing. But

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<v Speaker 5>you know, if capacity building was the answer to the

711
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<v Speaker 5>many innate problems with emergency labeling guidelines, you know we

712
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<v Speaker 5>would use it. But we couldn't. It's not a capacity

713
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<v Speaker 5>building is like adding more people on the team, that

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<v Speaker 5>sort of thing, educating existing people that does nothing to

715
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<v Speaker 5>help the consumer at a consumer level, who's purchasing or

716
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<v Speaker 5>being given this product? And there's no information on the label.

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<v Speaker 5>What in the heck does capacity building have to do

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<v Speaker 5>with that? Nothing? So his answer was a bunch of

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<v Speaker 5>gobbledy coop.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, if I can jump in, I'll guess the Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Tips the president of the National Health Federation, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say this. In preparation for Scott's interview, I

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<v Speaker 2>went to the website National Federation and I read about

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<v Speaker 2>Scott's information about his latest trip to Geneva, Switzerland, just

725
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<v Speaker 2>really just you know, a couple of weeks ago, and

726
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<v Speaker 2>when I saw the term capacity building, I thought to myself,

727
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<v Speaker 2>now that is a great bureaucratic term. I had never

728
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<v Speaker 2>in a million year I never heard it before. I

729
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 2>have no idea what it means, but it does really

730
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<v Speaker 2>sound authoritative. But it's just hilarious, Scott, when when you

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<v Speaker 2>keep saying capacity building, because you do point out the

732
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<v Speaker 2>absurdity of it, it seems to not address any issue whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really did the other delicate smirk? I mean, what

734
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<v Speaker 2>were what were the other men and women thinking.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's a really good question. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>they were thinking. No one spoke up but the Three

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<v Speaker 5>Breast Milk Consumer Organization, women and me and the National

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<v Speaker 5>Health Federation, so we were the only ones to really

739
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<v Speaker 5>speak out. Oh I'm sorry, I'm sliding. The World Health

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<v Speaker 5>Organization Codex science officer, she was quite good and she

741
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<v Speaker 5>actually gave some of the best arguments against it. So

742
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<v Speaker 5>there was her, and I can't believe the chairman just

743
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<v Speaker 5>ignored her comments in favor of this word salad nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, funny. I had to laugh. It's just just funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Capacity building. I'm going to be using that term a

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<v Speaker 2>lot now because I just love as a nonsense term.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it is, It's like one of their favorite terms

748
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<v Speaker 5>now at codex is capacity building and robust. There was

749
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<v Speaker 5>a robust study. There was a robust UH report that

750
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<v Speaker 5>was given to us. It was a robust this robust

751
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<v Speaker 5>that if I had a nickel for every time they

752
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:56.360
<v Speaker 5>mentioned that word, I'd be filthy rich.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actly pretty. For those tuning into the show, our

754
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<v Speaker 2>guest is Scott Tips, and Scott Tips is the president

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<v Speaker 2>of the National Health Federation, America's oldest consumer organization in

756
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.480
<v Speaker 2>practice in business since nineteen fifty five, doing great work

757
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:16.079
<v Speaker 2>back in the sixties that helped protect the chiropractic profession, homeopathy,

758
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you name it, and they were there. Things

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<v Speaker 2>we take for granted now as being like, well that's

760
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:22.719
<v Speaker 2>not a big deal. Well it was a big deal

761
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<v Speaker 2>at one time when those organizations were slammed, Like the

762
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:29.159
<v Speaker 2>chiropractice were kicked around worse than kicked around. I'm being

763
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.719
<v Speaker 2>kind or maybe foolish they are saying that way. When

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00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:34.440
<v Speaker 2>the chiropractice were treated badly by the medical profession and

765
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<v Speaker 2>got away with it for a long time until finally

766
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<v Speaker 2>it had to stop. They couldn't get away with it

767
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<v Speaker 2>any longer. Same thing with homeopathy. So a lot of

768
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:44.639
<v Speaker 2>important things that we Americans take for granted. Now we

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<v Speaker 2>only have these rights because the National Health Federation has

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<v Speaker 2>stood up for us. So I'm really proud. When Scott's

771
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<v Speaker 2>on the show, Scott's just juncture. How can listeners, if

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00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:57.760
<v Speaker 2>here's to your health, contact you directly at the National

773
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<v Speaker 2>Health Federation, learn more about the important work of the

774
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:04.079
<v Speaker 2>National Health Federation and maybe sign on as members.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if you mean by that the National Health Federation,

776
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 5>then they just go to our website and click on

777
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:16.159
<v Speaker 5>become a member and then just fill out the forum

778
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<v Speaker 5>and send in the money and that's it. And then

779
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<v Speaker 5>there's also a donation button, which we'd really appreciate as well,

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<v Speaker 5>because you know, I just did my expense report for

781
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<v Speaker 5>going to the Geneva meeting. Geneva Switzerland's really expensive to

782
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<v Speaker 5>be at. Food and hotel, lodging, it's incredible, even Airbnb,

783
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:46.440
<v Speaker 5>it's outrageous. So we really could would appreciate that. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>if you mean by that my personal email address, I

785
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:53.440
<v Speaker 5>guess I could give that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, whatever, whatever whatever you feels the best contact of nation,

787
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.000
<v Speaker 2>please Scott give it to us.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you can write me at stars end twenty four

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<v Speaker 5>at gmail dot com. Now, so a little science fiction

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<v Speaker 5>at stars D S T A R S E n

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<v Speaker 5>D the number twenty four because I couldn't just get

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<v Speaker 5>stars in okay, number twenty four at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, and again, you are the president of the

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<v Speaker 2>National Health Federation. Been president now nineteen years and they've

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<v Speaker 2>been around National Health Federation since nineteen fifty five, doing

796
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<v Speaker 2>great work. And again, so what's the email address for

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<v Speaker 2>the National Health Federation.

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<v Speaker 5>Probably the best one is contact hyphen us at the

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<v Speaker 5>T E NHF dot com. So contact hyphen us us

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<v Speaker 5>at the NHF dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much. Our guest has been Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Tips almost always very proud men. Scott's on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and Scott Tips, the President of the National Health Federation,

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<v Speaker 2>is a regular contributor to Here's to Your Health, offering

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<v Speaker 2>us really important information kind of from a legislative approach,

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<v Speaker 2>which is something that most of us really kind of

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<v Speaker 2>never think about. We mostly thinking, well, I be eating

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<v Speaker 2>more beats, I beating more carrots. Should I take more

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<v Speaker 2>vitamin C? That's what we kind of focus on. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to minimize we as consumers, but really we

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<v Speaker 2>have an organization, the National Health Federation that's looking out

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<v Speaker 2>for our interest as consumers and we need that. The

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<v Speaker 2>National Health Federation. This is Josh Laane. You're listening to.

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<v Speaker 4>and of course the rock stars themselves.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm the revenue, agreed, and you're listening to the Insane

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<v Speaker 9>Daryl Wayne, And I said Wayne insane.

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<v Speaker 4>You can find it on Amazon or Blackstone Audio search

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<v Speaker 4>for the Latest from the Greatest from Daryl Wayne. D

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<v Speaker 6>A y n E. Hello, this is weird All Yankovic

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<v Speaker 6>and you're listening to the Insane darl Wayne, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for listening to the show. If you have

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<v Speaker 2>suggestions for guests or topics you would like to hear,

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<v Speaker 2>please email me at Josh Lane Wellness at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Josh Lane Wellness at gmail dot com. J O.

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<v Speaker 2>S H l A n E. Wellness at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>On behalf of the cast and crew. I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to wish you a healthy and safe, good evening,
