WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:10.000 Weird thing happened in. 2 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:18.600 The weird weird weird. 3 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:31.679 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. It's been a very long few days. 4 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:38.799 We are very uh caffeine pumped, caffeine fueled. Yeah, on 5 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:40.719 a very tight schedule. 6 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:43.960 And guys just shot espresso downstairs, like literally right before this. 7 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:46.079 Oh dude, well, just just to get this out of 8 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:49.359 the way, I have to say this part. I'm texting 9 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:52.600 Brad and he's like, you know, I'm gonna need a 10 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:55.079 strong coffee in the morning, all right, And I'm like, yeah, 11 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:57.719 me too. Okay, this is my kind of dude comes around, 12 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.759 It's like, uh, can we go get a. 13 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:01.560 Strong cup of coffee? 14 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:04.000 It's just been coffee, coffee, coffee, coffee. So I'm on fumes. 15 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:06.040 But we have a very special guest with us today, 16 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:09.640 our friend Brad Peyton from Los Angeles, who. 17 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:13.359 Well, you know, I still claim to be a Canadian 18 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.920 because I was born and raised there, but for today 19 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:21.920 I'm from Los Angeles. Yeah, okay, tomorrow you're from Canadia. Yeah, right, 20 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:25.439 Are you on fumes too? It's hard to be on 21 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:28.159 fumes when you're excited, is what I find. Yeah, you know, 22 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:31.920 like there's definitely been some lulls. Like at eight o'clock 23 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:35.239 last night, I looked over at Peter and Peter's eyes 24 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:37.079 were like starting to roll back in his head, and 25 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:40.439 I'm like, you look like how I feel like it's 26 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:43.280 been a pretty wild couple of days. I feel good. 27 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.560 I feel really good. But yeah, it's pretty awesome trip. 28 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:48.840 After you went home last night, we kind of like 29 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.239 had a little talk in that living room and I 30 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:57.079 was like, Dad, you know, Emily, Mom, Jenny, Jack, maybe 31 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:00.959 tomorrow we don't go thirteen hours unloading. And I mean 32 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:03.840 it was just all day ba B this connection, this connection. 33 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:06.640 I loved it. Yeah, I loved it. I mean it's 34 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:08.520 why I'm here, you know what I mean, Like I 35 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:11.520 loved it. I I think like for me, it's just 36 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:15.319 like getting new experiences, meeting new people who are so genuine. 37 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:18.719 It is always fantastic and a lot of In a 38 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:20.719 lot of ways, it reminded me of where I'm from, 39 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:23.840 which is Newfoundland, Canada, which is very salt of the earth, 40 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:26.520 very friend Like when we walked into your house and 41 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:28.879 everyone was like where huggers, I was like, oh, this 42 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:31.879 reminds me at home, you know, like even the like, uh, 43 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:35.240 the wood interior of the of the house. I was like, 44 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:37.759 I haven't seen this since I was in Newfoundland, you know, 45 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:40.319 because correct me if I'm wrong. But isn't Newfoundland kind 46 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:43.400 of like country, yeah, if you like? You know, so 47 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:47.000 it was known as like a fisheries province until the 48 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:50.560 fisheries died out, like I think in the eighties early nineties. 49 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:52.800 I grew up in the central part of Newfoundland, so 50 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:54.759 I didn't really have much to do with the fisheries, 51 00:02:54.800 --> 00:03:00.039 but like very traditional, like Saint John's the city and 52 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.719 in Newfounland is the oldest city in North America. Oh, 53 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:05.719 like John Cabot or John Cabot, howeveryone pronounce his name? 54 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:08.919 He arrived at Newfoundland. There's a Viking settlement in Newfoundland. 55 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:11.360 It's a very very old part of the world. And 56 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:13.800 so like when people just ask me to describe it, 57 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:17.680 I'm like, think of Ireland in North America and like, 58 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:19.840 go listen to our accent. I don't have much of 59 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:23.400 an accent. Like, my parents traveled a lot. They really 60 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:26.719 tried to like educate me, like make me read books 61 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:31.520 basically beyond comic books. But it was like they wanted 62 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:33.879 to try to educate me to see outside of my province, 63 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:36.919 because my province is quite kind of small and insular 64 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:39.240 in some ways. It's an island. It's the furthest point 65 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:41.919 of North America as well, so it's an island in 66 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:45.000 the Atlantic. The weather's really harsh, we have really long winters. 67 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:48.599 It's just a very unique existence, I would say, and 68 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:52.560 it breeds a very unique culture. It's very Irish, very Scottish, 69 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:58.919 very English, like very musical. Storytelling, like verbal storytelling is 70 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:01.439 like one of our biggest tradition. So it was just 71 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:06.199 like even in Canada, Newfoundlanders or New Fees as they 72 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:09.599 kind of tallow sometimes it was derogatory before. But I 73 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:12.919 think people I didn't say it wasn't I'm allowed to 74 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:19.399 say it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, it 75 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.279 was like it was. It's sort of like when I 76 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:23.439 was growing up, if someone called you a new fee, 77 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:26.160 it meant like they're treating you like you're stupid. It's 78 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:29.279 like it's like your redneck. Yeah, it's kind of like that. 79 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.560 It is like that's what I At a certain point 80 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:32.879 you kind of like just own it. It's like, you 81 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:35.439 know what, yeah, yeah, a new fee. I mean I 82 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:38.720 didn't say that, we make you a new fee. It's 83 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.240 very easy. I would love to be an honorary new fee. 84 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:44.560 What do I have to do? You have to uh, well, 85 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.240 we would screech you in is what it's called. Yeah, 86 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:51.120 it's that actual process. Yeah, it's an initiation. It's like 87 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:54.720 jumping in, like the most lovely jumping in. We get 88 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:57.639 you drunk. We forced you to kiss a cod fish 89 00:04:57.680 --> 00:04:59.560 on the lips. Sound awesome, and then I think you're 90 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:01.759 a news. There might be some other stuff, but the 91 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:04.560 main thing is drinking. So we have screech is a 92 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:07.240 is a is a rum that comes from came from 93 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:08.879 the Caribbean because they would come up and when they 94 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.720 would trade the rum for the fish. Yeah, so like 95 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.120 rum is a huge part of our culture. And screech 96 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:17.680 is a Newfoundland rum that came from the Caribbean. So 97 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:19.759 they would screech you in is what it's called. Screeches 98 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:22.079 the name of the rum. It's terrible. It tastes terrible, 99 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.160 but we'll make you drink it. Yeah, and so we'll 100 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:27.360 drink the more nicer stuff. But it's like, yeah, they 101 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:29.079 screech you in, they make you kiss a fish, and 102 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.560 they go, ah, you're and then everyone just cheers and 103 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:33.680 and and you get wasted with everybody. 104 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:37.680 That sounds awesome. It's sound like a very unique place. Yeah, yeah, 105 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:38.800 I've never heard of anything. 106 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:39.920 It's like Kentucky of Canada. 107 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:41.920 Right, That's what I said, because it was just like 108 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:47.120 so like, you know, we were traditionally we were like uneducated, 109 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:49.480 you know, because what it was is like you had 110 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:52.199 to work for your family to survive. So dads would 111 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:54.600 like take their sons out and they'd become fishermen at 112 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:56.759 like twelve. You're not reading books, you're not learning shit. 113 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:58.560 You're like, I have to feed my family. Yeah, there's 114 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:01.439 a very little point of that, you know, traditionally speaking. 115 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:03.720 It's very different now, but like I felt like when 116 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:05.560 I was a kid, we were coming out of that, 117 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:08.839 like we were shifting to Well, first of all, let 118 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:12.800 me contacts. Newfoundland didn't join Canada until nineteen fifty. Oh wow, 119 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:14.959 we were the last province to join Canada. So like 120 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.519 when I was growing up, my grandparents' house had a 121 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:19.759 portrait of the Queen in their living room. Wow, Queen 122 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:23.040 of England. Yeah, they were basically a British colony until 123 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:26.639 nineteen fifty. So it was just it's just it's hard 124 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:29.120 for me to explore. I'm living in la now in 125 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.600 the film industry. If I've run into someone who knows 126 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:36.399 about Newfoundland, I'm shocked. Come from Away, change that a 127 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:39.000 little bit. The Broadway musical that's about the town I 128 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:41.720 grew up in, Gander, Come from Away, Come from Away, 129 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:44.560 nine to eleven. All the planes had to land in 130 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:47.000 a small town called Gander, Newfoundland, which is where I 131 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:50.199 was born and raised, And they made a Broadway musical 132 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:52.879 about it, about how nice everybody was because they took 133 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:56.920 in like that, like ten thousand people overnight. Because all 134 00:06:56.920 --> 00:06:59.519 those jetliners had to land, they had to move them 135 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.199 every day. They were so heavy, and the runway wasn't 136 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:04.160 built for it. They would sink into the cement on 137 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:07.399 the runway because it wasn't built for these massive jets. 138 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:09.319 You know, I didn't know anything about this though, that 139 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:12.959 yeah planes, Emily said it's great, and and oh my god, 140 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:14.160 I kind of heard a little bit. 141 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:15.879 You were talking about this with Emily yesterday. But didn't 142 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.560 you get arrested by I almost got arrested, Okay, but 143 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:20.519 I would never get caught, my friend. 144 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.240 That's right, that's right. I even listening full Yeah, I 145 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:24.120 just kind of heard you. 146 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:28.439 But yeah, so Oz Fudge the cop in that in 147 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:31.759 that in that play, Yeah, I was like, I was, 148 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:35.079 as you might underage drink when you're like fourteen or 149 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:37.759 fifteen or whatever, like, and so the cop came up 150 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:40.519 and I just went through the bottle of wood. So 151 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:42.920 what are you kids doing? No? You know? 152 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.000 So is that the guy who was portrayed in the play, 153 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:47.000 the real guy? 154 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:49.319 Yeah? Oh cool? Yeah, So like when I was watching 155 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:53.680 the play, I was like, I know that guy trest enemy. 156 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:57.879 I did not like him. They're making him look really fun. 157 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:00.720 Was his name right? Yeah? No, That's how I knew 158 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:04.199 because I recognize all the Oz Fudge man Oz Fudge 159 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:07.519 Fudge No. Yeah, And I'm like, how can I get 160 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:09.079 arrested by someone named Oscar. 161 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:10.759 And my grandmother gave you fudge this morning? 162 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:15.319 That's true, It's true. It sounds like a Willy Walker character. 163 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:16.560 Oz Fudge. 164 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:20.279 Yeah, that's intense. 165 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:22.439 It was an interesting It was just it's just like 166 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:25.680 an interesting, very unique place to grow up. I don't 167 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:26.959 take it for granted whatsoever. 168 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:31.160 It sounds awesome in a in a very like charming, 169 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:34.559 unique like culture way. It's like a convergence a ton 170 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:36.000 of different culture, I would not be the. 171 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:37.799 Way I am. I would not have the point of 172 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.080 view I have. I would not if I didn't wasn't 173 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:42.960 raised there and didn't grow up the way I grew up, 174 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:45.120 I just would not be the person I am, and 175 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.759 which is an incredibly naive, small town person at my core. 176 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.360 That's that's amazing, dude, that's really cool. I really do 177 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:55.399 appreciate that quality about you. Like in all of our communication, 178 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:59.360 you've been very upfront about your intentions, and like the 179 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:01.000 first time we talk on the phone, You're like, I'd 180 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.759 like to think I'm a good person. And that's stuck 181 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:05.759 with me. You saying that. The more I get to 182 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:08.159 know you on a personal level, I'm like, you know, 183 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:09.600 I'd like to think you're a good person too. 184 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:14.240 Yeah, I mean, I feel like you can just for me. 185 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:19.399 It's like oftentimes you're surrounded by people that are greedy 186 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:22.480 or you're industry self serving, you know, like it's just 187 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:25.000 it is. I get it. Like I moved to a 188 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:28.039 number of cities where people are trying to make it 189 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:32.559 and sometimes they sacrifice some of their humanity or some 190 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:34.840 of their kindness or some of and I have done 191 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:37.879 that along the way. Too, but I've always tried to 192 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:41.519 stay conscientious of it, to like go this is very 193 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.120 important to me, to remain a certain way and to 194 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:49.159 not sacrifice certain things. And it's very hard because people 195 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:51.360 are very tricky, and sometimes you get roped in with 196 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:54.240 people you aren't you don't have the best intentions for you, 197 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:57.279 because everyone's out for themselves on some level. And I 198 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:00.639 get that, but I've really, specially in the last couple 199 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:02.480 of years, really focused in on, like I don't want 200 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.480 to lose that part of me, Like that's my intuition, 201 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:08.799 is my kind of superpower as a filmmaker, I don't. 202 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.679 I'm not really like a book top. I'm a self 203 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.399 taught filmmaker. I went to film schools, but I dropped 204 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:17.120 out of all of them, you know, so after like 205 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:21.440 a semester, I didn't stick around long, you know. And 206 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:24.039 so I've had to like find my own way as 207 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:28.799 a filmmaker. And I've watched a lot of people become 208 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:31.720 less successful to me and much more successful to me. 209 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:34.679 And I've also been able to see the price they 210 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:37.240 pay for some of that success. And a lot of 211 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:39.279 the people I've seen who are really successful are just 212 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:44.879 not healthy or happy. Or like they've sacrificed humanity. Yeah, 213 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:47.240 they've sacrificed things in a way. And I don't want 214 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:49.600 to like paint like a negative picture, but it's like 215 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:53.159 some people have flourished and they're they have loads of 216 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:55.360 human and they give back all the time and they're 217 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:59.200 great people too, you know. So just when you're attuned 218 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:02.000 to that, I think, and part of an instinct is 219 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:04.879 a big thing for you. You have to kind of keep 220 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:07.720 your humanity in and make sure you don't lose it, 221 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:09.799 you know, because you can very very easily. 222 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:11.399 I do feel that for you, Like I feel that 223 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:15.279 very genuine aura right from you, you know, and I 224 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:18.600 appreciate about I appreciate that about you. Let's talk a 225 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:20.639 little bit about like how you got in the industry. 226 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.679 I want to know more about like how you got 227 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:24.639 into Hollywood. How did you start making movies? 228 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:29.600 Just kind of generally, yeah, I mean, well, how did 229 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:33.120 I start making movies? I okay, so I didn't have 230 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.960 access to like cameras, Like I grew up in a 231 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:38.960 small town at that point, there were like people didn't 232 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:41.039 have video cameras or that I knew one person with 233 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:44.919 a video camera, and so what I when I set 234 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:49.039 out to start to become a filmmaker. I was like, 235 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:51.000 I need to read everything I can. So I read 236 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:53.799 everything I could about everything. I volunteered everywhere I could. 237 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:57.000 I you know, I was peaying on sets. I would 238 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:58.759 do every I would do every job I could do 239 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.759 just to get a taste of what it was. But 240 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:04.399 the problem for me was I knew really early on 241 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:07.159 that I wanted to be a director. I just was like, 242 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:12.200 that's I have little interest in anything else besides storytelling. 243 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:15.440 And I also was like not a tech nerd, so 244 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:18.840 I couldn't really operate cameras like well, like I was 245 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:20.759 that last night, yeah, and then your dad's like, here, 246 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:22.639 use this camera and I'm like, I don't know. I'm 247 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:25.399 not that guy like I can turn that on for 248 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:26.799 you and I can tell you how to aim it, 249 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:31.000 and but I'm not that guy. Like I'm not. And 250 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.039 it's funny because a lot of people will be like, oh, 251 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:35.279 he's a VFX director, and I'm like, I don't know 252 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:38.320 anything about VFX, Like for what is worth? 253 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:40.879 The VFX in the three of your movies that I've 254 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:43.080 recently watched are insane. 255 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:45.399 And I think it's because I'm not a VFX person, 256 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:49.200 because there's there's so many VFX people in that pipeline 257 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:52.440 who are talking about VFX and all I'm sitting there 258 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:54.919 going is like that doesn't look real, you know what 259 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:57.440 I mean? Like I shot that thing to go in 260 00:12:57.480 --> 00:12:59.720 the mid ground so that you have a real reference 261 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:02.080 you to make that look like that. Yeah, you know. 262 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:06.039 Like so like my approaches, film, something that can go 263 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:09.320 into the frame that's actually filmed and light is actually 264 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:12.080 hitting it, so that when they put the visual effects in, 265 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:15.120 there's something as a litmus test. Yeah, there's a reference 266 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:17.240 where you're like that looks fake, that looks real and 267 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:20.120 it look Visual effects is really hard, and you know 268 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:23.759 you're gonna get criticized about your vfect Like you know, 269 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:26.480 my movies have like a thousand VFFCT shots or six 270 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:29.080 hundred or eight hundred VFFECT shots. It's hard to get 271 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:32.039 them all at the level you want them. But my 272 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:34.919 approach has always been I want realism as much as 273 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:36.919 you can get it. You know. The other thing too, 274 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:40.679 is that like my movies, Atlas was my biggest budget, 275 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:44.240 but like San Andreas was one of those movies where 276 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:47.519 we never felt like we had enough money, Like we 277 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:50.320 were always it was made for like one hundred and 278 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:52.519 fifteen million dollars, which is, like I know, is a 279 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:54.679 lot of money, but it was going up against movies 280 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.360 that were made for two hundreds, you know, and I 281 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:00.519 was like, man, so like there was so little waste 282 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:03.519 because I couldn't afford to waste anything. You know, Like 283 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:05.960 there's a lot of movies where you're like cutting like, 284 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:09.480 you know, fifty shots. I didn't maybe cut five because 285 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:11.720 I couldn't afford to spend the extra money on the 286 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.879 fifty shots and then cut forty five of them. You know, 287 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:17.279 like you had to keep everything lean and pointed and 288 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:20.320 like very very specific and yeah, so it was like 289 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:22.960 that that taught me how to be a good storyteller 290 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:26.480 as well, where you're just like, okay, you're looking for realism, 291 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:30.559 you're grounding the movie. You can't shoot an absorbite amount 292 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:32.039 of stuff. You don't have the time, you don't have 293 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:34.440 the money, you don't have the resources, and you're still 294 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:37.559 you know, the studio and you're beholding this bit. And 295 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:40.799 my visions tend to be big, like world building visions, 296 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:43.360 so yeah, as epic as I can get them. And 297 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:47.360 then like you know, I remember like on my second movie, 298 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:54.000 on a Journey Too is what it was called. Yeah, yeah, cool. Yeah. 299 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:56.960 So so we all went to Hawaii for the first half, 300 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.639 shot all the exteriors and then had a Christmas break 301 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:02.240 and after Ristmas came to Wilmington and shot all the interiors. Here. 302 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:04.200 Where did they do that in Wilming studio? 303 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:07.360 The screen gyms. It's no longer. It's by the airport. 304 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:09.200 I don't know if you've seen it. Okay, now used 305 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.360 to be screen gyms. It has been sold like last year. 306 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:11.679 Then. 307 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:14.720 Yeah, they had one of our like big like lizard 308 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:16.519 eggs on the lawn for a while from that a 309 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:19.679 big lot. Yeah yeah yeah, so we had that lot 310 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:20.840 for like three two. 311 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:22.200 Yeah, we'll pass it tomorrow and taking you. 312 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:25.039 To the airport. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah so 313 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:28.600 it was That was cool. But sorry, what was I saying? 314 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:32.039 The uh you gotta keep it lean and like concise. Yeah. 315 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:35.000 So so yeah, so we shot this little, this very 316 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:38.279 small scene where they crashed this helicopter. This doesn't sound 317 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:42.200 like a small scene. Sorry, it's small as a helicopter. 318 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:44.200 They wake up on a beach on an island. Okay, 319 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:47.240 And I you know, I was I storyboard everything. And 320 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:49.879 so I remember showing the producer was this guy named both Flynn. 321 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:52.919 I showed him the storyboards and I'm like, yeah, so 322 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:54.679 they wake up here and there's like close ups, you know, 323 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:56.279 people waking up. And then I'm gonna do this big 324 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:59.080 helicopter shot of the beach. And he's like, helicopter shot 325 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:01.200 in this scene and I was like yeah, He's like 326 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:02.879 that sounds that sounds like a lot. And I'm like, 327 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:04.720 you want a big movie, right, He's like, yeah, I 328 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:06.159 want a big movie. I was just like, all right, 329 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:08.240 well we're doing a helicopter shot on the beach, you know, 330 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:11.240 like and so it was like a tricky like the 331 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:13.320 way I looked at it was and it would be 332 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:15.639 a digital beach because I would shoot a little plate 333 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.639 of the beach. Yeah, put a digital environment, right, And 334 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:20.879 so the way I looked at it was you have 335 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:25.120 to put shots like that in scenes that don't necessarily 336 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:30.399 stereotypically demand that. So the audience very early on goes, oh, 337 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.960 this is a big movie. You know, like you're training Yeah, 338 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:35.720 you're training them, you know. I don't even think people 339 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:37.559 would think about it, but like we all were like 340 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:41.159 or the crew was just like helicopter shot in this scene, 341 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:42.600 you know, and I was like, I was like, yeah, 342 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:44.159 we need to set the stage. We're in a big 343 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:46.720 movie now, you know, We're on this mysterious island, this 344 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:50.759 jeweles Verne thing. So yeah. So it's just it's always 345 00:16:50.759 --> 00:16:54.399 been like my goal is to make these big stories 346 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:57.600 on these big canvases. And so starting was really hard 347 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:02.879 because there was no resources at all, no cameras, I'd know, money, 348 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:04.839 you know, I was you know, I dropped out of 349 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:07.519 some film schools because I wanted to be a director. 350 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:11.720 So for me, it really started from writing. And I'm 351 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:13.799 not a great writer, but I'm a pretty good writer 352 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.680 because I just have written so much at this point. 353 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:21.720 And then I instead of the traditional like, oh, I'd 354 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:24.039 shoot things on the weekend with my friend because I 355 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:26.839 could shoot stuff, and I got myself a little video 356 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:28.799 camera and i'd do a little exercise to kind of 357 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:32.079 learn like what camera movement looked like, and or I 358 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:34.119 would go get a gimbal and kind of move the 359 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:35.720 camera and get a sense of what it was. But 360 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.000 then I didn't do a lot of like I didn't 361 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:40.160 make a lot of short films because even if I 362 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:41.880 could figure out a way to shoot it. Then I'm like, 363 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:44.119 how do I edit this? Yeah, I don't have it. 364 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:46.680 I didn't even know anyone with an editing bay. It's 365 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:48.960 not like today where like I know ten people that 366 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:51.640 edit stuff at home. Was not like that, you know, Like, 367 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:55.240 so I didn't have any of those resources. It wasn't 368 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:57.559 as easy to kind of put stuff together on your own. 369 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:01.480 So for me, I stored up that hunger to make something, 370 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:04.279 and then eventually I wrote a grant for the government, 371 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:06.720 which in Canada's really good when you're coming up as 372 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:08.960 an artist. They have a lot of government grants, like 373 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.559 you'll get like twelve thousand dollars and fifteen thousand dollars, 374 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:14.480 and you know, as a as like a twenty one 375 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:16.960 year old, twenty year old, you're like twelve thousand dollars, 376 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:22.079 Oh my god, camera activities budget. Yeah it's not like yeah, yeah, 377 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:25.119 it's more a little bit, but it's enough to make 378 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:27.640 a short film. So you know, I made a short 379 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:31.200 film that way. And what I would say is what 380 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:33.640 it did for me was it put me in this 381 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:38.680 headspace that I really benefited from later on, where if 382 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:42.319 I'm going to shoot something, I'm going all in. Yeah, 383 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:45.440 like I am going one hundred percent. I'm giving it 384 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:48.920 my all. It is the only thing I'm doing is 385 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:51.519 this thing, you know, Because it wasn't like, oh, I'll 386 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:52.720 do a little thing here and a little thing here 387 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:54.119 and a little thing here. It was like, no, I 388 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:57.079 can't do these little things. Oh I have twelve thousand dollars. 389 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:59.279 I have to do this one in my mind, big thing, 390 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:02.039 you know. And it was like whatever, like an eight 391 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:04.599 minute short film. But it was like I went all 392 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:06.599 in on that and made that as best as I 393 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:10.039 could make that little thing. And that kind of serviced 394 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:11.720 me because then when I got to go make my 395 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:14.759 second short film at the film school, I eventually didn't 396 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:17.559 drop out of the CFC. I made this short film 397 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:21.079 called Evelyn, and it was like I threw everything at 398 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:24.000 it because it was my mentality was so different, I 399 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:27.480 think than everybody else's. I was like I used to think, 400 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:32.000 I honestly like, I didn't exercise at the CFC. And 401 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.400