Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Pathway Chili.
Speaker 2: I'm Robin, I'm Jules, and I'm Ashley.
Speaker 3: Let's dive right into this week's case.
Speaker 4: November twenty one, nineteen seventy nine, Craig Colorado. After spending
Speaker 4: the evening at a dance, fifteen year old Marie Blee
Speaker 4: heads to a party but never returns home. Two days later,
Speaker 4: Marie's parents receive an anonymous phone call demanding a five
Speaker 4: thousand dollars ransom for her return. The caller turns out
Speaker 4: to be eighteen year old Monte Doolan, who originally drove
Speaker 4: Marie to the party, but he denized any involvement in
Speaker 4: her disappearance. Over the next few decades, investigators received contradictory
Speaker 4: eyewitness accounts about what might have happened to Marie and
Speaker 4: eventually named three persons of interest, but she continues to
Speaker 4: remain a missing person.
Speaker 1: After that, the path went chilly. So on this episode,
Speaker 1: we're going to be exploring a missing person's case which
Speaker 1: took place just over forty five years ago, the nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine disappearance of fifteen year old Marie Blee. This
Speaker 1: is a very complex but frustrating mystery because the victim
Speaker 1: in this story went missing after attending a party, but unfortunately,
Speaker 1: a proper investigation was not performed for nearly twenty years.
Speaker 1: Many of the witnesses who attended that party were interviewed,
Speaker 1: but the problem is that their accounts of what happened
Speaker 1: often contradicted each other, so it's tough to work out
Speaker 1: a concrete timeline and pinpoint the exact moment when Marie
Speaker 1: Blee was last confirmed to be alive. Investigators would eventually
Speaker 1: name three persons of interest, and one of them, Monty Doolan,
Speaker 1: drove Marie to the party on the night she went
Speaker 1: missing and soon made an inexplicable attempt to extort money
Speaker 1: from her family. This is one of those cold cases
Speaker 1: where it's been suspected that a number of people might
Speaker 1: know the truth but are reluctant to come forward. It
Speaker 1: seems apparent that something happened to Marie at that party,
Speaker 1: but all the pieces of the puzzle have yet to
Speaker 1: be put together.
Speaker 3: I'm already frustrated.
Speaker 2: You have a eighteen year old who drove Marie who's fifteen,
Speaker 2: to a party, so clearly we already know that there
Speaker 2: are multiple ages at this party. You have people who
Speaker 2: are a legal adult driving a fifteen year old to
Speaker 2: this party, And like you said, it's pretty clear that
Speaker 2: something must have happened there because she arrives at the
Speaker 2: party and then we know nothing about her whereabouts after that.
Speaker 2: What is absolutely heartbreaking is that there's a family who's
Speaker 2: waiting for their fifteen year old little girl to come
Speaker 2: home and two days later they get a phone call
Speaker 2: for a ransom and it turns out to be the
Speaker 2: very kid that Marie trusted to take her to the party. It's,
Speaker 2: i don't know, inexplicable, Like you just said, it's despicable
Speaker 2: that someone could behave that way. I'm dying to know
Speaker 2: more about Monty Doolan, the eighteen year old, why and
Speaker 2: how he's a suspect and who these other people could be,
Speaker 2: because already his behavior is it's just disgusting. You have
Speaker 2: a grieving family, a worried family, and then they have
Speaker 2: possibly a prank phone call for a ransom, or was
Speaker 2: it Monty really trying to get something because he knew
Speaker 2: where she was or what had happened to her, and
Speaker 2: then starts to recant that he has any involvement.
Speaker 4: It's diabolical if he is involved with Marie's disappearance. But
Speaker 4: if he isn't as well, if he just does this
Speaker 4: prank phone call, the callous nature of doing something like
Speaker 4: that to parents who have no idea what happened to
Speaker 4: their daughter.
Speaker 2: It's gross and you were responsible for her like she
Speaker 2: if the parents didn't know that Monty drove her, Marie
Speaker 2: trusted him to drive her, so to be in that
Speaker 2: position of trust and her alleged friendship with him, and
Speaker 2: then to manipulate and harm the family again when they're
Speaker 2: baby's missing, it's oh, it's bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Monty Dulin has always maintained his innocence and claims
Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with Marie's disappearance. So when
Speaker 1: you hear the excuse he gives for why he decided
Speaker 1: to phone the family and try to extort money, you're
Speaker 1: going to roll your eyes. So it's pretty obvious that
Speaker 1: even if he wasn't directly involved, these pretty terrible human
Speaker 1: being and that a lot of people did fail Marie
Speaker 1: that night because she was a fifteen year old girl
Speaker 1: going to one of her first grown up parties with
Speaker 1: a lot of older kids, and it doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: anyone was really watching over her.
Speaker 4: Our story begins in Colorado in nineteen seventy nine. Our
Speaker 4: central figure is fifteen year old Marie Anne Blee, who
Speaker 4: lives with her parents, Paul and Monablee, and is the
Speaker 4: youngest of five children. The Blee family lives in Hayden,
Speaker 4: a small town of around seventeen hundred located in Route County.
Speaker 4: Marie is currently a sophomore at Hayden High School and
Speaker 4: is very active in the sewing program for the local
Speaker 4: four h club. She enjoys a very close relationship with
Speaker 4: her parents and has gone on a trip to Germany
Speaker 4: and Switzerland with them. In September of this year, on
Speaker 4: the evening of Wednesday, November twenty first, which happened to
Speaker 4: be the day before Thanksgiving, Marie traveled seventeen miles to
Speaker 4: the town of Craig, located in Moffat County. She was
Speaker 4: driven there by an eighteen year old friend of hers
Speaker 4: named Monty Doolan, who had recently graduated high school, and
Speaker 4: they would attend a four age dance being held at
Speaker 4: the Moffatt County Fairgrounds Pavilion. When the dance ended, Monty
Speaker 4: drove Marie to the Shadow Mountain Village Mobile home Park,
Speaker 4: in order to attend a party. The party was hosted
Speaker 4: by an eighteen year old high school senior named Michael O'Brien,
Speaker 4: who would claim that he originally only intended to hold
Speaker 4: a small get together with his brother and their friends. However,
Speaker 4: once worred about the party spread, it wound up being
Speaker 4: crashed by somewhere between fifty to one hundred people, many
Speaker 4: of whom arrived there from the dance, and the mobile
Speaker 4: home became so overcrowded the people started spilling out into
Speaker 4: the yard. Some of Marie's female friends joined her at
Speaker 4: the party, but they became uncomfortable once they saw there
Speaker 4: was a lot of drug usage going on and most
Speaker 4: of the people there were older males who they did
Speaker 4: not know. Marie's friends decided to leave, but they claimed
Speaker 4: that she insisted on staying and they were unable to
Speaker 4: change her mind. The following morning, Marie's mother, moanably, woke
Speaker 4: up at six a m. In order to start preparing
Speaker 4: the turkey for the family's Thanksgiving dinner that night. She
Speaker 4: took a glance inside Marie's room and was surprised to
Speaker 4: discover that she was not there and her bed had
Speaker 4: not been slept in since Marie never missed her curfew,
Speaker 4: it was very uncharacteristic for her not to come home,
Speaker 4: and her parents soon became greatly concerned when they checked
Speaker 4: with her friends and learned that she had not spent
Speaker 4: the night with any of them. Mona and her husband
Speaker 4: Paul attempted to report Marie missing, but the Hayden Police
Speaker 4: Department believed that Marie had simply ran away and would
Speaker 4: turn up soon. However, Marie's parents didn't buy this, as
Speaker 4: she was doing well in school and not experiencing any
Speaker 4: personal problems at that time, so they plan to organize
Speaker 4: their own search effort for her.
Speaker 2: This is one of those cases that we've we've looked
Speaker 2: at many many times where you have a young individual
Speaker 2: who's doing what young people do and it's kind of
Speaker 2: caught up in that trap of manipulation and kind of
Speaker 2: insecurity and seeking approval from people. I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 2: if Marie didn't have somebody at that party that she
Speaker 2: admired that she really wanted to be close to, that
Speaker 2: maybe she had a crush on, and she's seeing there's
Speaker 2: older people there, They're showing me attention. I want to
Speaker 2: be here, and I guarantee many people who are listening.
Speaker 2: And I myself have done the thing where my friends
Speaker 2: say let's go, and I say I'm good, leave me be,
Speaker 2: I have a ride home, just let me be. And
Speaker 2: you're putting yourself in such a dangerous situation. But at
Speaker 2: fifteen years old, you don't know that you trust people.
Speaker 2: You have this kind of hope that someone's gonna find
Speaker 2: you beautiful or funny and is gonna hang out with
Speaker 2: you and take care of you and maybe be interested
Speaker 2: in you. And so I wouldn't be shocked if that
Speaker 2: was the motivation for Marie fighting to stay at that party.
Speaker 2: Sounds like there's a lot of older people. It sounds
Speaker 2: like a lot of dangerous things were happening at that party,
Speaker 2: like drug use and drinking. And you have a lot
Speaker 2: of people coming and going that might not actually have
Speaker 2: anything to do with Marie, but they were involved in
Speaker 2: let's say the drug use or the drinking, and they
Speaker 2: pass her path and they could put her at risk.
Speaker 2: And or it's the people she's truly trusting and wanting
Speaker 2: to get close to who end up hurting her. So
Speaker 2: there's two really big scenarios here going on. Is it
Speaker 2: someone she was staying at the party for who ended
Speaker 2: up hurting her? Or is it someone who was watching
Speaker 2: her at the party and took an opportunity because they
Speaker 2: saw a young fifteen year old who was vulne and
Speaker 2: with fifty to one hundred people, good luck figuring out
Speaker 2: which one of them could have done it.
Speaker 1: And this is far from the only case we've covered
Speaker 1: on the podcast. An old missing person's case from like
Speaker 1: the seventies or eighties, where even though they're under age,
Speaker 1: their parents tried to report the missing the police and
Speaker 1: they say, oh, they just ran away. They'll turn up eventually.
Speaker 1: And this is one case where that turned out to
Speaker 1: be such a detriment because if they had gone to
Speaker 1: work right away and interviewed everyone at that party they
Speaker 1: when their memories were still fresh, we might have gotten
Speaker 1: a better idea of figuring out what happened to her.
Speaker 1: But because they went interview these people into a long
Speaker 1: time later and just wrote off Marie's runaway as we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about, we got so many contradictory eyewitness
Speaker 1: statements about what Marie was doing and where she was
Speaker 1: that it was just so tough to get a handle
Speaker 1: on figuring out what happened to her.
Speaker 4: I'm like you, Ash, I can't help but think of
Speaker 4: all the stupid things that I did when I was
Speaker 4: Marie's age, and how many parties that I went to
Speaker 4: and ones where my friends probably left me. I would say, like,
Speaker 4: just leave me behind. I'm with like this guy friend
Speaker 4: or this guy friend, and I'm so thankful that horrible
Speaker 4: things didn't happen. But every time that I did that,
Speaker 4: it opened myself up to like such a dangerous situation.
Speaker 4: So to think back in retrospect, when you hear a
Speaker 4: story like Marie, it really makes you question your own
Speaker 4: decisions in your youth.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I know that Marie's friends, it would
Speaker 1: be easy to criticize them for leaving her behind at
Speaker 1: the party, but they said multiple times that we did
Speaker 1: what we could to try to convince her to leave
Speaker 1: with us, and she kept saying no, And ultimately our
Speaker 1: hands were kind of tied here. If she didn't want
Speaker 1: to leave, we couldn't make her leave, And unfortunately, this
Speaker 1: is one of those situations where she just was never
Speaker 1: seen again. On November the twenty fourth, the case took
Speaker 1: an unsettling turn when the Bleeze received a phone call
Speaker 1: from an anonymous mail who demanded that they pay a
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars ransom for Marie's safe return. Since November
Speaker 1: the twenty fourth was a Saturday and the bank was closed,
Speaker 1: the Bleedes were forced to scrap together the five thousand
Speaker 1: dollars by borrowing it from friends. This development finally caused
Speaker 1: the police to take Marie's disappearance more seriously, and they
Speaker 1: set up a tap on the bolic's phone, but the
Speaker 1: anonymous caller never phoned back to provide instructions about how
Speaker 1: to deliver the ransom money. However, within a few days,
Speaker 1: police would discover that the caller was none other than
Speaker 1: Monty Doolan, who had driven Marie to the dance and
Speaker 1: the party on the night she went missing. Monty was
Speaker 1: subsequently arrested and charged with extortion, but maintained that he
Speaker 1: had no knowledge or involvement in Marie's disappearance. Monty claimed
Speaker 1: that he had no intention of ever collecting the five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars from Marie's parents and only decided to phone
Speaker 1: them up and impersonate a kidnapper in order to give
Speaker 1: them the hope that Marie was still alive. According to Monty,
Speaker 1: he last saw Marie at the party sometime between one
Speaker 1: point thirty and two am on the morning of November
Speaker 1: twenty second. They did not leave together because Marie said
Speaker 1: she had arranged to get a ride with another guy
Speaker 1: at the party, though she never actually told Monty who
Speaker 1: it was. Monty ultimately wound up pleading guilty to telephone
Speaker 1: harassment and received a six month suspend a jail sentence
Speaker 1: along with two years probation.
Speaker 2: His explanation stinks when you look at this is decades ago,
Speaker 2: and you're asking this family who's two days into their
Speaker 2: baby being missing, and you say, I need five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: That's somewhere between I don't know, twenty and thirty five
Speaker 2: thousand dollars today. That's not something that I have sitting around.
Speaker 2: A lot of families would be scrambling and desperate and
Speaker 2: would do anything to get that money and try to
Speaker 2: make sure that they got their daughter back. So you're
Speaker 2: asking a family in their most vulnerable state to then
Speaker 2: be stressed and traumatized by having to put together a
Speaker 2: large amount of money quickly, to think that their baby's
Speaker 2: life depends on your efforts and ability to reach this person.
Speaker 2: You're not able to remake contact with the person you're
Speaker 2: scrambling to get the money together. How much more trauma
Speaker 2: can a poor little family go through. Monty's explanation stinks.
Speaker 2: It doesn't offer any hope, and anyone who has three
Speaker 2: brain cells would know that all that would do is
Speaker 2: add harm to the family. So I can't even begin
Speaker 2: to understand how anyone, including the police, could say, Okay,
Speaker 2: we understand.
Speaker 4: But these are the same police that said, as soon
Speaker 4: as she went missing, even though she didn't fit the
Speaker 4: profile of a runaway, that she was a runaway. I
Speaker 4: think their investigation was just lacking on every level, and
Speaker 4: it seems like their investigation into certain individuals, they just
Speaker 4: wrote them off really easily, where they should have like
Speaker 4: dove a little bit deeper. Monty Doolan was known to
Speaker 4: have been with Marie, and so we're just to believe
Speaker 4: and like to take his word at face value. I
Speaker 4: just I don't know if I can get behind that.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that is just such a terrible excuse
Speaker 1: to say that. Oh, I just wanted to give hope
Speaker 1: to the family that Marie was still alive, even though
Speaker 1: she'd only been missing for a few days at that point.
Speaker 1: And that is an incredibly cruel act if doing that
Speaker 1: to the pair when you don't know what's happened to her,
Speaker 1: when she may very well be dead. And I have
Speaker 1: my doubt said he was legitimately trying to collect a
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars ransom, but I think there's a good
Speaker 1: chance he made this fake ransom call because he was
Speaker 1: trying to throw off the investigation and make the police
Speaker 1: think that something else happened to Marie rather than focusing
Speaker 1: their suspicion on him. But unfortunately Vermonty, he wound up
Speaker 1: getting caught.
Speaker 3: Also, you got to remember what year was.
Speaker 1: This, nineteen seventy nine, Okay.
Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy nine, So you're still you're coming out of
Speaker 2: that like free love. Kids are still hitch hiking and
Speaker 2: doing all these things that are troublesome behaviors now when
Speaker 2: you look back. But they were very, very common that
Speaker 2: young kids would jump in a car with just about anybody,
Speaker 2: go just about anywhere, and you didn't have all the
Speaker 2: communication and tracking devices that you have now. So I
Speaker 2: can see where police would be kind of lazy and
Speaker 2: ignorant to the idea of, oh, I bet she's a
Speaker 2: runaway because at the time, you really did have a
Speaker 2: lot of kids who were coming and going as they pleased,
Speaker 2: and they didn't always know who was taking them to
Speaker 2: different places. So I see at the time where there's
Speaker 2: a little bit more kind of assumption that the kids
Speaker 2: were going to come home. But still this kiddo, the
Speaker 2: parents had a feeling this is not her. We know
Speaker 2: where she was, she was doing great in school. She
Speaker 2: had no reason to run and not tell us where
Speaker 2: she was. And so I think at the point where
Speaker 2: the family has a child who's acting out of character,
Speaker 2: the police should have been alerted. But I do know
Speaker 2: at that time it really was pretty common for, you know,
Speaker 2: a kid to disappear and then go oh, I'm back,
Speaker 2: and the.
Speaker 3: Cases would be closed pretty quick.
Speaker 2: But that hurts all the cases that were actually authentic
Speaker 2: and needed the police to respond immediately to hopefully help.
Speaker 4: Anyway, it was now a parent that something likely happened
Speaker 4: to Marie while she was at the party, but the
Speaker 4: investigation into her disappearance went no way due largely to
Speaker 4: jurisdictional issues. The problem was that Marie lived in Route County,
Speaker 4: but technically went missing in MafA County, and it seemed
Speaker 4: like neither of the sheriff's office in those counties wanted
Speaker 4: to take the reins, and they both seemed like they
Speaker 4: were trying to distance themselves from the case. As a result,
Speaker 4: key witnesses were never interviewed, and it was hard to
Speaker 4: pinpoint the exact time when Marie was last seen alive.
Speaker 4: Many rumors circulated throughout the community about what happened to Marie,
Speaker 4: including her dying of an accidental drug overdose or being
Speaker 4: killed to cover up a sexual assault, and it was
Speaker 4: speculated that her body was buried in a rural area somewhere.
Speaker 4: There was even rumors that Marie's body had been dismembered
Speaker 4: and dumped in an abandoned mind shaft, or that she
Speaker 4: was encased in a concrete foundation of Craig's City Market,
Speaker 4: which was under construction at the time. Four months after
Speaker 4: Marie's disappearance, a sergeant with MafA County Sheriff's Office received
Speaker 4: an anonymous phone call from a man who said, quote,
Speaker 4: my two kids know who disposed of Marie Blee, but
Speaker 4: we're afraid to tell. Eleven people know, but they're afraid
Speaker 4: end quote. Even though the caller was sobbing when he
Speaker 4: said this, he was never identified, and his story could
Speaker 4: not be substantiated. Marie's parents did their best to keep
Speaker 4: their daughter's case in the spotlight, but they would eventually
Speaker 4: find it too painful to remain in Hayden. They moved
Speaker 4: to Grand Junction in nineteen eighty four, but made sure
Speaker 4: to keep the same phone number in case Marie ever
Speaker 4: tried to call them.
Speaker 2: That's pitiful when you sit there and you think about
Speaker 2: this idea. On both sides, you have parents who are
Speaker 2: saying that we'll do anything if we haven't.
Speaker 3: Found our body. There's still hope.
Speaker 2: If we haven't found our body, there's a chance that
Speaker 2: she is going to call us right and to the
Speaker 2: point where we'll stay in the home that we were in,
Speaker 2: and when that becomes too painful, we'll move, but we'll
Speaker 2: keep the same phone number and will continue to fight
Speaker 2: to keep awareness around her case so that you know
Speaker 2: she knows we're looking for You can just feel the
Speaker 2: devastation that that's taking on the family. And then you
Speaker 2: get that phone call, which in and of itself is
Speaker 2: heartbreaking on a lot of different levels. The person sobbing
Speaker 2: and saying, listen, two of my kids know what happened
Speaker 2: to her, but were really scared. And there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people who know. In fact, what do they say?
Speaker 3: Eleven yeah, eleven yeah, eleven.
Speaker 2: People know, but they're too afraid to talk. Something happened
Speaker 2: and people witnessed it or and or heard about it.
Speaker 2: But there's somebody or something they're scared of that if
Speaker 2: this person that kills Marie could also then turn around
Speaker 2: and kill them.
Speaker 3: They don't want to talk.
Speaker 2: That's why cases like this are fascinating, because if there
Speaker 2: was any one of those eleven people alive today who says,
Speaker 2: maybe the suspect or the perpetrator, maybe they passed away,
Speaker 2: maybe they're so old, what are they going to do
Speaker 2: to me?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: If they just came forward now there could be answers
Speaker 2: in this case, not for any kind of quote closure,
Speaker 2: it's not going to happen, but resolution to know what
Speaker 2: happened to her. This idea that I just want to
Speaker 2: know the details of what happened.
Speaker 3: To somebody that we loved.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I feel sorry for the person calling too. There's a
Speaker 2: clear fear and to live with that kind of guilt
Speaker 2: and knowledge that can't do anything but tear you apart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always wondered about the caller because if they
Speaker 1: were sobbing, it sounds like they genuinely like we're fearful
Speaker 1: of something or we're guilt written about something, because I
Speaker 1: don't know if they would cry like that if it
Speaker 1: was just a prank phone call. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I am kind of skeptical that eleven people know the
Speaker 1: full truth about what happened. I mean, I could think
Speaker 1: maybe like two or three possibly know the full truth,
Speaker 1: but so much time has passed. I would like to
Speaker 1: think that one of those eleven people, if they did
Speaker 1: know what happened, would have come forward by now, especially
Speaker 1: years after the fact, when we would finally identify a
Speaker 1: couple of persons of interest. I mean.
Speaker 2: The thing to me too, is when people say they're
Speaker 2: too scared to talk, I get it. But at some point,
Speaker 2: if the police are going to be to apprehend and
Speaker 2: convict them, what else are you? I mean, what are
Speaker 2: you scared of? Are you scared of their associates? And
Speaker 2: you know the repercussions of that, I suppose, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. Let's let's go hardcore and lock them up
Speaker 2: and then they can't hurt anybody else, including us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to think that if you're younger,
Speaker 1: if you're a teenager, you would still be scared of
Speaker 1: something like that, But once you reached adulthood and no
Speaker 1: longer had to associate with these people, that your conscious
Speaker 1: would get the better of you when you would finally
Speaker 1: come forward and share what you know.
Speaker 4: And even if they're like a criminal element, the landscape
Speaker 4: would change considerably in that timeframe. So you've got to wonder,
Speaker 4: like eleven people knowing nobody comes forward, Like eleven is
Speaker 4: a really specific number, Like you said, I could see
Speaker 4: a few, but eleven, and I just would have a
Speaker 4: hard time believing that somebody wouldn't crack unless they felt
Speaker 4: like there was some sort of threat that somebody would
Speaker 4: go after them. And I get what you're saying, ash
Speaker 4: for sure that like if that is the case, then
Speaker 4: you know, go to life enforcement, tell them everything, and
Speaker 4: then that way they'll get locked up. But I guess
Speaker 4: there's always the fear that somebody like that could be
Speaker 4: out on bail. I mean, I don't know how insidious
Speaker 4: somebody would have to be or how dangerous that you
Speaker 4: would keep quiet and you would be sobbing on the phone,
Speaker 4: like years later, it's if it's a prank call, like
Speaker 4: whatever would motivate somebody to do that, I have no idea.
Speaker 4: But if it is somebody who truly did know, it's
Speaker 4: just too bad that they never figured out who it
Speaker 4: was and got more information from them.
Speaker 1: So and not be until nineteen ninety nine, nearly twenty
Speaker 1: years after Marie went missing, that a thorough investigation would
Speaker 1: finally be performed. This came about after Marie's case is
Speaker 1: featured in an extensive article in Frontier magazine, which was
Speaker 1: highly critical of how the various law enforcement agencies let
Speaker 1: their jurisdictional disputes hamper the original investigation. In response, the
Speaker 1: Route County Sheriff's Office decided to reopen the case and
Speaker 1: organize a multi jurisdictional cold case task Force, which also
Speaker 1: consisted of the Moffatt County Sheriff's Office, the Hayden and
Speaker 1: Craig police departments, and the FBI. They acknowledged that the
Speaker 1: original investigation had been mishandled, but they now wanted to
Speaker 1: make it right. Over the course of the next few years,
Speaker 1: the task force would organize a number of searches and
Speaker 1: excavations in areas where Marie's body was believed to be
Speaker 1: buried in order to make a positive identification in case
Speaker 1: they found any human remains. DNA was collected from an
Speaker 1: old orthodonic retainer Marie had owned and was still in
Speaker 1: the family's possession after two decades.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just left holding this potential evidence of Hey,
Speaker 2: we have her DNA from one of her items, but
Speaker 2: we don't have her body recovered. We don't have her
Speaker 2: to actually say, is there any other evidence on her body?
Speaker 2: Are there any you know, hair pieces on her body,
Speaker 2: Was there any blood near her body?
Speaker 3: None of that. So you're literally looking.
Speaker 2: For a ghost right now, and you have a box
Speaker 2: of evidence that's just things from her family and from
Speaker 2: her room waiting to be tested if and when they
Speaker 2: ever discovered her body.
Speaker 4: I think it's incredible that they still have her retainer
Speaker 4: after that many years, Like, thank god they held onto
Speaker 4: that because DNA wasn't as sophisticated as it is now,
Speaker 4: And I don't even know if they would have been
Speaker 4: able to take the parents' DNA and been able to
Speaker 4: compare that in the way that they can today.
Speaker 1: It's true, and back in nineteen seventy nine, it's not
Speaker 1: like the Bleaves would have been thinking about DNA testing
Speaker 1: because it didn't exist back then. But I guess they
Speaker 1: were just one of those families who decided to hold
Speaker 1: on to all of their missing daughter's items and then
Speaker 1: never imagine that two decades later this would be useful
Speaker 1: for DNA testing.
Speaker 4: Investigators finally tracked down and interviewed a number of witnesses
Speaker 4: who attended the party at Shadow Mountain Village on the
Speaker 4: night that Marie went missing, and many of them had
Speaker 4: never spoken to the police before. However, the big problem
Speaker 4: was at twenty years had passed and these witnesses memories
Speaker 4: were no longer fresh, so their statements often contradicted each other.
Speaker 4: For instance, one witness would claim they saw Marie doing
Speaker 4: drugs inside the mobile home's bathroom, but another witness said
Speaker 4: that Marie never went inside the mobile home at all
Speaker 4: that evening because it was so crowded. Different witnesses would
Speaker 4: also place Marie at different locations throughout the night, including
Speaker 4: the fairground's pavilion and a completely different party being held
Speaker 4: in Hayden. Marie was also seen at a Circle K
Speaker 4: convenience store with a man who may or may not
Speaker 4: have been Monte Doulin, but it was unclear if this
Speaker 4: was before, during, or after the party took place. Investigators
Speaker 4: were hoping that a grand jury would be called in
Speaker 4: order to help condense all the eyewitness statements into one
Speaker 4: coherent version of events with a clear timeline, but this
Speaker 4: never came to fruition. Of course, rumors continued to circulate
Speaker 4: that Marie had been the victim of an accidental drug overdose,
Speaker 4: and some people disposed of her body because they feared
Speaker 4: an investigation might lead to their drug supply. Police announced
Speaker 4: that as long as a murder did not take place,
Speaker 4: no one would be prosecuted for any crimes related to
Speaker 4: the covering up of Marie's death, since the statute of
Speaker 4: limitations had expired by this point. But in spite of this,
Speaker 4: no one ever provided any conclusive information about what happened,
Speaker 4: and the multiple searches for Marie's remains failed to turn
Speaker 4: up any evidence. After one unsuccessful search came to an end,
Speaker 4: pab Lee could be seen breaking out into tears and
Speaker 4: crying out, why won't someone just come forward and tell
Speaker 4: us what happened? I just don't understand.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine sitting there watching a father go through
Speaker 2: a search for his daughter and just begging people, please
Speaker 2: tell me what happens. And then you think back to
Speaker 2: this phone call that happens years later where someone saying like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: eleven of us know what happened, we're just too scared
Speaker 2: to talk. His grief and his just it's pitiful begging people,
Speaker 2: please tell me what happened. I just want to know
Speaker 2: what happened. And it's pretty powerful that the police say, listen,
Speaker 2: statute delimitations have run out. If you have any knowledge
Speaker 2: of something that happened to her. Let's say she fell
Speaker 2: and hit her head. Let's say she was you know,
Speaker 2: a drug overdose like they said, and then you just
Speaker 2: dispose of her body so that you didn't get in trouble.
Speaker 2: Just let us know, because that's different than first degree murder,
Speaker 2: right or second degree murder.
Speaker 3: That's different.
Speaker 2: So and no one still nobody came forward, which then
Speaker 2: makes me think with that kind of information out there,
Speaker 2: knowing the statute delimitations had passed, knowing that they're granting
Speaker 2: public permission to tell what happened, and if you weren't
Speaker 2: involved in her murder, that they were going to look away.
Speaker 3: It is crazy.
Speaker 2: If eleven people truly knew what happened, not one, not
Speaker 2: one of you broke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's strange to me about it. It makes
Speaker 1: me wonder if perhaps only a handful of people know
Speaker 1: the exact truth about what happened. And like you said,
Speaker 1: if it was just an hour accidental drug overdose and
Speaker 1: disposing of her body because of the statute of limitations,
Speaker 1: they might not be charged. But the fact that everyone
Speaker 1: is still continuing to remain silent makes me wonder if
Speaker 1: something truly horrible happened, like a premeditated murderer, or maybe
Speaker 1: she was killed during an attempted sexual assault. But you
Speaker 1: have to think that after a statement like that by
Speaker 1: the police, that so many people would still keep their
Speaker 1: mouths shut, it must be really bad.
Speaker 4: And I mean, what if both things are true? What
Speaker 4: if she died from a drug overdose, but somewhere along
Speaker 4: the line of this drug overdose, somebody sexually assaulted her
Speaker 4: and that may be the reason that people haven't come forward.
Speaker 4: But I would think that if there was eleven people
Speaker 4: that were aware of a sexual assault, especially if some
Speaker 4: of those people were indeed women, that over time their
Speaker 4: opinions of the situation might change so that they would
Speaker 4: go to law enforcement, though.
Speaker 1: I always think of the social stigma as well, that
Speaker 1: even if they didn't do anything wrong, they just remained silent.
Speaker 1: That if they came forward and finally revealed the truth
Speaker 1: after all these years, a lot of people would get
Speaker 1: mad at them, saying, why did you wait so long
Speaker 1: before saying anything? And I think that might be one
Speaker 1: reason why some people are still reluctant to reveal the truth.
Speaker 2: That's true, like you didn't help when you could have
Speaker 2: stayed silence almost as bad as being involved, right, you
Speaker 2: had the ability to get justice or answers for that family,
Speaker 2: and you didn't help.
Speaker 1: So in September of nineteen ninety nine, investigators tracked down
Speaker 1: Monty Doolan, who was living in Grand Junction by this point,
Speaker 1: in order to interview him. However, when they returned to
Speaker 1: Grand Junction a few months later in order to speak
Speaker 1: with them again, they were surprised to discover that Monty
Speaker 1: and his wife were no longer living at the residence,
Speaker 1: even though they had only moved in there one month
Speaker 1: before Monty's first interview. For a while, investigators had trouble
Speaker 1: locating Manti again, but they finally tracked him down to
Speaker 1: another residence in grand junction. Over the years, Monty had
Speaker 1: been in trouble with the law on multiple occasions for
Speaker 1: such crimes as domestic violence and sexual assault. On the
Speaker 1: basis of all the new information they gathered during the investigation,
Speaker 1: the Cold Case Task Force publicly named three persons of interest.
Speaker 1: One of them was Monty Doolan, and the other two
Speaker 1: were max Abel Garcia and Steven Skuffka, who were both
Speaker 1: nineteen years old at the time Marie went missing. Some
Speaker 1: of the witnesses who were interviewed seemed to think that
Speaker 1: Marie had left the party with three men, and Doolin, Garcia,
Speaker 1: and Skuffka had all been placed in her presence that night.
Speaker 1: Garcia was now living in Portland, Oregon, so investigators traveled
Speaker 1: there to interview him. He maintained his innocence, but the
Speaker 1: task Force suspected that even if Garcia wasn't directly involved
Speaker 1: in Maurice's disappearance, he possibly had knowledge about what happened
Speaker 1: to her. Stephen Skuffka was still living in Craig at
Speaker 1: this point, and much like Monte Doulin, he had a
Speaker 1: history of criminal activity. Skuffka popped up on the investigator's
Speaker 1: radar when witnesses shared stories about how he had allegedly
Speaker 1: made incriminating comments over the years about being involved in
Speaker 1: Marie's disappearance. However, Skuffka claimed that he never even attended
Speaker 1: the party or met Marie. His The story was that
Speaker 1: he attended the four h dance that night with his sister,
Speaker 1: but they both returned home early because they found it
Speaker 1: boring and went to bed. Skuffka's alibi was backed up
Speaker 1: by his parents and Michael O'Brien, who hosted the party
Speaker 1: at the mobile home and claimed that Skuffka was never there. Hmm.
Speaker 2: I mean, they always say that the worst alibi is
Speaker 2: someone that cares about you, even though they would definitely
Speaker 2: be the person most likely to.
Speaker 3: Know the truth.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, it makes a lot of sense
Speaker 2: that the three of these guys, Remember, she's fifteen. You
Speaker 2: have an eighteen and nineteen and a nineteen year old.
Speaker 2: She's vulnerable, She's I guarantee you, because we've all been
Speaker 2: a fifteen year old girl before.
Speaker 3: She feels older than she is.
Speaker 2: She feels attractive and smart and important because these older
Speaker 2: boys are paying attention to her, and yet on the
Speaker 2: flip side, through their eyes, she's vulnerable. She's someone that
Speaker 2: would be perceived as weak in their mind, and if
Speaker 2: the three of them manipulate her and get her away
Speaker 2: from the party, I could see something like a gang
Speaker 2: sexual assault happening, or you know, one of them hurting
Speaker 2: her and the rest of them covering for them.
Speaker 3: So I think it's.
Speaker 2: Very realistic to start to picture who left with her
Speaker 2: that night. Three older boys would not surprise me, and
Speaker 2: the two of them seem to have a pattern of
Speaker 2: behavior that would very much be in line with something
Speaker 2: that could escalate to a murder. You have sexual assaults,
Speaker 2: you have domestic violence, you have very suspicious behavior moving
Speaker 2: all about trying to elude perhaps the detectives.
Speaker 3: But ah, it's just sad.
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, Skufka has an alibi, but I'm not
Speaker 2: so sure I buy it. I could see it just
Speaker 2: being Monty, and I could see it being a group
Speaker 2: of three or even more. Remember the caller set eleven
Speaker 2: people knew it sounds crazy, but when you think about
Speaker 2: group of assaults, threes horrific. But there's no limit to
Speaker 2: how many people can participate in manipulate and hurting the
Speaker 2: little girl.
Speaker 4: I think it's weird that Skufka went to the dance
Speaker 4: with his sister, that is true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't even specify how old the sister was,
Speaker 1: But I know most people in high school would not
Speaker 1: go to social events with their siblings like that.
Speaker 3: No, they'd be like, I'm out piece ounds.
Speaker 1: And Michael O'Brien like, I don't think he's intentionally lying.
Speaker 1: But they say that between fifty and one hundred people
Speaker 1: showed up at the party, and even he admits a
Speaker 1: lot of them were stragglers who came who he didn't
Speaker 1: even know. So after twenty years, how could he be
Speaker 1: certain that he did not see Steven Skoff at the party?
Speaker 1: I mean, he could have been there and he just
Speaker 1: didn't notice him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, one hundred people. That's like thinking about, you know,
Speaker 2: like a high school dance or something. How are you
Speaker 2: gonna see everybody for sure? To the point where you
Speaker 2: could testify on that It's very possible that they were
Speaker 2: hanging out at a bonfire behind the mobile home, and
Speaker 2: or that Michael was in the mobile home most of
Speaker 2: the time while they were outside, So I don't necessarily think.
Speaker 3: That's much of a cover.
Speaker 2: And then, like I said, his parents would obvious tried
Speaker 2: to support their son to get the heat off of him.
Speaker 4: And when you add substances into the mix, everybody was
Speaker 4: likely inebriated or high on drugs. Then people's memories become
Speaker 4: more fallible. And I'm in total agreement with you Ash.
Speaker 4: The parents being his alibi, that's shaky at best, Like
Speaker 4: that is not a concrete alibi. They are going to
Speaker 4: say anything that they can likely to protect their son,
Speaker 4: because most parents do.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: In September two thousand, only a few months after being
Speaker 4: named as a person of interest, Stephen Skyfka wound up
Speaker 4: in serious legal trouble after he was arrested for allegedly
Speaker 4: trying to run over a man with his car. Traces
Speaker 4: of methamphetamine, marijuana, and drug paraphernalia were found in Skyfka's possession,
Speaker 4: and at the time, he was also on probation for
Speaker 4: a witness tampering charge. He wound up being charged with
Speaker 4: forty seven different crimes and was facing a twelve year
Speaker 4: prison sentence. Skufka was interviewed by a cold case task
Speaker 4: force and was offered a deal for a sentence if
Speaker 4: he was willing to provide new information about Marie's disappearance.
Speaker 4: Skuffka did not divulge anything, and wound up receiving the
Speaker 4: twelve year sentence, though he was paroled in two thousand
Speaker 4: and nine. Following his release, Skuffka went to live with
Speaker 4: his mother in Lakewood, but became the victim of a
Speaker 4: fatal accident when he fell down his basement steps. In
Speaker 4: May of twenty twelve, Skiffka's mother stated that he was
Speaker 4: getting his life back together and had gotten engaged to
Speaker 4: be married. She continued to insist that he was falsely
Speaker 4: accused of his involvement in Marie's disappearance, and he had
Speaker 4: been home with her on the night Marie went missing.
Speaker 3: I view this two different ways.
Speaker 2: One, you have somebody who didn't do it, because he
Speaker 2: is offered this deal and says, hey, listen, you're already
Speaker 2: facing a heck of a lot of time.
Speaker 3: Help us out.
Speaker 2: We'll help you out with your charges because you're already
Speaker 2: going to have to serve time, and we can help
Speaker 2: one another.
Speaker 3: And he says no.
Speaker 2: He goes ahead and he gets the full sentence or
Speaker 2: whatever he was going to be facing for the multiple
Speaker 2: forty seven different crimes that he was So either he
Speaker 2: didn't do it, or you have somebody who is a
Speaker 2: careered criminal who has a unstable past with law enforcement
Speaker 2: and therefore is smart enough to keep his mouth shut
Speaker 2: or refuses to cooperate and help law enforcement. So I
Speaker 2: could see it being either way he truly doesn't know anything,
Speaker 2: or he just happens to have a criminal lifestyle that says, yeah,
Speaker 2: I might know something, but I'm not dumb enough.
Speaker 3: To tell you anything. It's not in it.
Speaker 2: There's nothing in it for me to tell you. I'm
Speaker 2: going to face my charges and move on.
Speaker 4: And Robin mentioned earlier like social stigma, I think that
Speaker 4: could explain potentially, even if he was already up on
Speaker 4: all of these other charges, being tied to a death
Speaker 4: is different. And also the social stigma can explain why
Speaker 4: the mother would back her son up so wholeheartedly saying
Speaker 4: that he was with me when there's likely a potential
Speaker 4: that he wasn't, because she doesn't want the idea that
Speaker 4: her son could be involved in the death of a
Speaker 4: young woman.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like most parents aren't just going to flat
Speaker 1: out say, like after they've lost a child, saying oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe that he did it. I believe he was
Speaker 1: a murderers. So it's understandable that she would continue to
Speaker 1: defend him to her dying breath. But of course the
Speaker 1: all their alternative is that the actual truth about what
Speaker 1: happened is so bad that Skuffit canoe that even if
Speaker 1: he confessed to it, he was going to receive a
Speaker 1: lot more than a twelve year sentence, because, like they said,
Speaker 1: there's no statute of limitations on murder. Well. A few
Speaker 1: years after Skuffka's death, Monty Doolan would face some serious
Speaker 1: legal trouble of his own. In June of twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: Doolan was arrested after a grand jury for Colorado's fourteenth
Speaker 1: Judicial District indicted him on one count of first degree kidnapping.
Speaker 1: At the time, Doolan was living in Souldotna, Alaska, but
Speaker 1: he was brought back to Route County to face the charge.
Speaker 1: It turned out that in the year prior to Marie's disappearance,
Speaker 1: Dulan had allegedly kidnapped and sexually assaulted another teenage girl
Speaker 1: who lived in Route County. Doolan was accused of picking
Speaker 1: up this girl at the Elkhead Reservoir after offering her
Speaker 1: a ride home, but he soon pulled over at an
Speaker 1: isolated location and proceeded to sexually assault and choked the
Speaker 1: victim before letting her go. Shortly after Doulan's arrest, his
Speaker 1: brother also found himself in legal trouble when he was
Speaker 1: charged with intimidating a witness. This person had testified against
Speaker 1: Monty during the grand jury proceeding, and his brother had
Speaker 1: allegedly threatened to quote unquote put a bullet in her head. However,
Speaker 1: in November of that year, District Court Judge Shelley Hill
Speaker 1: dismissed the first degree kidnapping charge against Dulan because she
Speaker 1: did not believe the crime met that particular criteria. Judge
Speaker 1: Hill cited the definition of first degree kidnapping in the
Speaker 1: Colorado Criminal Code and ruled that Duelin did not have
Speaker 1: the intent to quote unquote force the victim or any
Speaker 1: other concession to give up anything of value in order
Speaker 1: to secure the release of a person. This did not
Speaker 1: necessarily mean that the alleged sexual assault never happened, but
Speaker 1: Doolan was never actually charged with set actual assault since
Speaker 1: the statute of limitations for that particular offense had already expired.
Speaker 1: Judge Hill just felt there was insufficient evidence to show
Speaker 1: that Doulin had committed kidnapping, the actual offense he was
Speaker 1: charged with. As a result, Doolin wound up being released,
Speaker 1: but he continues to maintain his innocence in Maurice's disappearance.
Speaker 1: Paul and Mona Blee continued to remain advocates for their
Speaker 1: missing daughter, and every year around Thanksgiving they would publish
Speaker 1: a notice in Route County's newspaper, The Steamboat Pilot in Today,
Speaker 1: asking someone to come forward with information. The Blees have
Speaker 1: pretty much reached the point where they are no longer
Speaker 1: interested in prosecuting whoever was responsible for Maurice's disappearance, as
Speaker 1: they just want to find their daughter's remains and give
Speaker 1: her a proper burial. But after forty five years, the
Speaker 1: exact circumstances of what actually happened to Marie Blee continued
Speaker 1: to remain unknown. So I guess you could say the
Speaker 1: path went Chile Robin.
Speaker 3: Are both of her parents still alive?
Speaker 1: I haven't read any obituaries for them, so I think
Speaker 1: that they are. And I think it was twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: where I went to crime con in New Orleans and
Speaker 1: two people came up to my booth who actually said
Speaker 1: that they knew the Bleaze had said, they were very
Speaker 1: nice people who have done amazing work trying to spread
Speaker 1: word to find their daughter. And they were still alive
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, and I haven't read anything about them
Speaker 1: having passed away since then, but they would probably now
Speaker 1: be in their eighties approaching their nineties.
Speaker 2: Bless our hearts. That's exactly what I was thinking. Because
Speaker 2: she was fifteen, I was assuming her parents would at
Speaker 2: least be, you know, upper thirties or something to that nature.
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's just so sad.
Speaker 2: You have these ideas where you say, you know, yes,
Speaker 2: charges have been dropped against some of these people, but
Speaker 2: not because necessarily the crime didn't take place, but because
Speaker 2: there wasn't enough evidence. And like you said, we have
Speaker 2: these three people who are you people of interest, but
Speaker 2: once deceased, you have Doolan, who has you know, come
Speaker 2: and gone all over the place.
Speaker 3: Right, he was the one that hid when he got
Speaker 3: asked questions.
Speaker 1: Yes, where he moved out of his house even though
Speaker 1: he had moved in there only one month before he
Speaker 1: was questioned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the potential of any of the suspects
Speaker 2: ever getting hold accountable is low.
Speaker 3: But like the Bleas said, it's not even about that anymore.
Speaker 2: Like if you could even probably blanket promise that there's
Speaker 2: no prosecution, someone just please tell me where she is.
Speaker 2: Like they said, let us have enough of peace and
Speaker 2: give her the dignity to bury her, to have her remains,
Speaker 2: to know what happened to her. I remember I was
Speaker 2: just talking to another homicides Drivor recently who said, I
Speaker 2: had to know the details. I had to know what happened,
Speaker 2: because as gruesome as it was, and as horrific as
Speaker 2: it was to see the finality and the pictures and
Speaker 2: things like that, I had imagined so much worse. And
Speaker 2: she said, it's hard for people to look at, you know,
Speaker 2: crime scene photos of a loved one killed and think
Speaker 2: you thought something worse happened. And she said her imagination
Speaker 2: took over so much that by being able to see
Speaker 2: the facts, it allowed her to kind of close the
Speaker 2: wandering in her head, and that was peace in itself.
Speaker 2: So that's what I wish for the bleas you have
Speaker 2: these elderly individuals who are still advocating for their daughter,
Speaker 2: they just want to know what happened to her. And
Speaker 2: above that, I want to have my hands on my
Speaker 2: baby and her casket and know where she is, know
Speaker 2: that she's safe, and just put that chapter of our
Speaker 2: lives to rest because we were able to give her
Speaker 2: the honor and the dignity and the.
Speaker 3: Respect to bury her.
Speaker 2: But it's pitiful to think in their last years, right,
Speaker 2: their whole lives have been dedicated to trying to figure
Speaker 2: out what happened to their baby instead of living life
Speaker 2: with her.
Speaker 4: I remember Julie Murray saying something like it was much
Speaker 4: more important for her to be able to find out
Speaker 4: where her sister is and to bring more home than
Speaker 4: it was to get justice for whatever happened to her.
Speaker 4: And I think that's how Marie's parents felt, like, just
Speaker 4: please tell us where our baby is so that we
Speaker 4: can bury her. We can do whatever they choose to do.
Speaker 4: They can honor her, they have somewhere to go. But
Speaker 4: I think you said, just not having that body and
Speaker 4: not having that ability to have that resolution, no matter
Speaker 4: how horrible the facts of the crime may be. If
Speaker 4: it was indeed a murder, then they know, and like
Speaker 4: you said, they're not envisioning all of these horrible scenarios.
Speaker 4: They know what happened, and then the healing can truly begin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is far from the only missing person's case
Speaker 1: where it drags on for so long that the victim's
Speaker 1: family eventually says, I don't care about criminal prosecution, I
Speaker 1: don't care about justice. I just want my loved ones
Speaker 1: remains back. And you would think that in these scenarios
Speaker 1: where even if you're afraid of coming forward because you
Speaker 1: don't want the social stigma or your fear for your life,
Speaker 1: then the least you could do is maybe make an
Speaker 1: anonymous phone call from a payphone or leave an anonymous
Speaker 1: note just giving the location of where Marie is and
Speaker 1: then just hope that once they find the remains they
Speaker 1: won't try to find out who killed her and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So, I mean, I can understand the perpetrators
Speaker 1: not doing that, but if there is anyone else out
Speaker 1: there who actually knows the truth they will not face
Speaker 1: criminal prosecution, then all they would really need to do
Speaker 1: was like make an anonymous call or leave some sort
Speaker 1: of anonymous tip.
Speaker 4: I think, don't you guys think though, that that leans
Speaker 4: more towards this could have been a murder, because I
Speaker 4: think if this was an accident and a lot of
Speaker 4: people knew about it, and they knew that there would
Speaker 4: be no charges if they came forward and they shared
Speaker 4: what happened and they led law enforcement to where her
Speaker 4: body was, or like Robin just said, if they did
Speaker 4: an anonymous tip, like why wouldn't you do that? But
Speaker 4: if you did indeed murder her and you were afraid,
Speaker 4: what would happen if the police or her family found
Speaker 4: the body, then that might be something that would hold
Speaker 4: you back from calling authorities.
Speaker 1: Yep, that makes sense to me, and that's probably why
Speaker 1: Steven Skuffka wouldn't say anything when he was in prison
Speaker 1: facing all those charges, because he probably felt, well, if
Speaker 1: I reveal the truth, I'm going to go to prison
Speaker 1: for murder for the rest of my life. So I'm
Speaker 1: not getting a reduced sentence. So this would be a
Speaker 1: good time to bring an end to Part one. Join
Speaker 1: us next week as we present part two of our
Speaker 1: series about the disappearance of Marie Blee.
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