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<v Speaker 1>This is doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>cover this as we return to my content my show,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about the science of love. We are answering

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<v Speaker 1>All right, dear Doctor Wendy, My girlfriend gets really flirty

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<v Speaker 1>when we go out. She says she's just being friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel comfortable. Should I speak up or let

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<v Speaker 1>it go? Where are you gonna let it go to?

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say that it's still gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna observe it, You're gonna have feelings with it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you should speak up. Here's the problem. People are afraid

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<v Speaker 1>to speak up about when they see somebody being flirty

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<v Speaker 1>because they think it's gonna make them look weak and insecure, Like, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you always flirting with the other guys? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that. Uh, But there are other ways to

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<v Speaker 1>say it, like, hey, so you're in a committed a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with me, and oh, by the way, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to comment on something actual, concrete. You can't do a

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<v Speaker 1>general I think you're flirty. Whenever we go out, should

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I'm not flirty. When do you mean I'm flirty?

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<v Speaker 1>You have to literally say. The other night, when we

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<v Speaker 1>were at that restaurant and you were chatting for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time with Chad, I noticed that you were very

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<v Speaker 1>close in his personal space, and when you would comment

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<v Speaker 1>and laugh, you would touch him. This looked kind of flirtatious,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he could have gotten the wrong idea

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<v Speaker 1>from you because we're in a committed relationship. I also

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<v Speaker 1>feel it was a little disrespectful to me, So let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about your behavior in public. If you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in this relationship in public, then we need

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about that. Right, that's the conversation that needs

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<v Speaker 1>to have there. Okay, it doesn't look weak to say

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<v Speaker 1>I felt a little disrespected. That's not okay, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're misleading people around you, right, all right, moving

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<v Speaker 1>along into the dms. Oh, here's one I like this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Dear doctor Wendy, My partner's best friend. Partner's best friend

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<v Speaker 1>is someone, Oh he used to hook up with. Uh huh,

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<v Speaker 1>he says it's in the past. Am I wrong for

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<v Speaker 1>feeling uneasy about that? This is like the question I

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<v Speaker 1>answered earlier? Is this person still their emotional I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much research to show that usually a physical

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<v Speaker 1>affair affair causes less damage to a relationship than an

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<v Speaker 1>emotional affair.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's really the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you worry that he's betraying secrecies, intimacies about your

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with that person? Right, that's what you have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask yourself. Where is his emotional lifeline? And this question

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<v Speaker 1>so many people ask us, am I wrong for feeling

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<v Speaker 1>just that sentence shouldn't exist in English language. No feelings

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<v Speaker 1>are right or wrong, No feelings are good or bad.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just messengers telling you something. They're telling you that

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't right for you. It doesn't sit well with you,

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<v Speaker 1>So you need to bring it up.

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Moving along, Dear doctor Wendy. I feel like I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>giving in this relationship. I'm giving emotionally, I'm giving, financially,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm giving everything. How do I bring it up without

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<v Speaker 1>starting a fight?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Oh, this is a can of worms.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything I needed to know about you I learned in

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<v Speaker 1>this last sentence. How do I bring it up without

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<v Speaker 1>starting a fight? Your fear of conflict, which ultimately could

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<v Speaker 1>lead to abandonment. Your fear of abandonment is bigger than

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<v Speaker 1>your fear of stating your needs. Right. You are so

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<v Speaker 1>afraid that there's going to be an explosive fight and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll all be over, that you're just going to give

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<v Speaker 1>and give and give and what Just be in love

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<v Speaker 1>with hope. Just be in love with hope. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about earlier, the witness named Jane from the p

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<v Speaker 1>Didty trial. She gave and gave and gave to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where she was a broken, broken person because she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to lose Sean P.

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<v Speaker 1>So how much are you going to give? When are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to grow backbone? When you're going to grow boundary?

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<v Speaker 1>When are you going to be able to know that

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay if takers leave right, it's okay, It's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to fight.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>There's healthy fighting too, and healthy conflict. Once you learn

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<v Speaker 1>that and set up some boundaries, then you'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to have a healthy relationship. But sitting around waiting and

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<v Speaker 1>being in love with hope, hope that they'll change, hope

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<v Speaker 1>that they'll start giving, is going to do nothing. So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I will answer one question, how do I bring it up?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to eliminate the second part of that question

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<v Speaker 1>without starting a fight because you have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction is going to be, So just how do

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<v Speaker 1>I bring it up? Will you bring it up? When

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<v Speaker 1>both of you are calm, well rested, not hungry and hungry, angry,

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<v Speaker 1>lonely or tired, and you sit down as a good

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<v Speaker 1>moment and you say, it feels like I give a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in this relationship emotionally and financially and name some

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<v Speaker 1>other things, and I'm wondering when you're going to reciprocate

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you do? Will there be a fight? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>because takers are trying to make you feel bad about

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<v Speaker 1>having feelings, just say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck to you. You should bring it up.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have to move along to somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>not such a taker, that's a great idea. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have time for one more. Dear doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I succeed at something, my boyfriend seems weirdly

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<v Speaker 1>distant and called, Oh, is that jealousy or am I

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<v Speaker 1>reading into it? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's his own insecurity. That's what it is. He

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<v Speaker 2>is insecure. So yeah, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to bring it up in that way, Like say,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that when I accomplished this or I did that,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like you really, you know, uh didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>praise me for it, or you felt intimidated or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tell me what your feelings were around that? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember one time I had a boyfriend. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in the restaurant business, and I literally said I was

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<v Speaker 1>driving my bike on the bike path in La and

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<v Speaker 1>there was this restaurant that was going out of business,

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<v Speaker 1>and I literally said to him, oh my god, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is such a pretty location.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had just gotten through culinary school and I said, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>I dream of opening a little restaurant like that.

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<v Speaker 2>He got so mad.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, I'm a professional restauranteur and you're telling me.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes like me saying, I'm going to go be

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<v Speaker 1>a news anchor. And I said, well, if you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to and that was your passion, I would hear you

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<v Speaker 1>on for that. So weird, he felt so insecure. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he was afraid I was going to open up

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<v Speaker 1>a restaurant that would do better than him his Who knows. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back, let us talk about the most

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<v Speaker 1>joyful and hard work on the planet, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>the hard work of love. Listening to the Doctor Wendy

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Doctor Lindey Walls Show. I'm ki

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one time I was going through a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at Gelson's, the cashier, and it was just before Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was an older lady in front of me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like a young single mom, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>feeling overwhelmed with all the turkey and the side dishes

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever, and she had all her stuff for Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>and I just made a comment to create commonality what

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<v Speaker 1>you do as strangers in public. And I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so much work for Thanksgiving and she said, oh, dear,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's joyful work, isn't it. And I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some work that can be joyful this week. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>And actually I did it over the course of a

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<v Speaker 1>weeks because it took so long. I dug out all

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<v Speaker 1>the poop in my goat pen and power washed it

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<v Speaker 1>and put fresh shavings down. I'm going to do it

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<v Speaker 1>every month from now on because it's so great that

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<v Speaker 1>it's so clean. And I was sweating just taking the

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<v Speaker 1>wheelbarrow full of you know what to.

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<v Speaker 2>The compost pile.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so much physical labor, but it was joyful work, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was taking care of my kids, literally kids on

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<v Speaker 1>baby goats. So sometimes hard work can be joyful, and

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<v Speaker 1>probably no better kind of joyful hard work than the

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<v Speaker 1>work of love. People will say about their relationships, you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, relationships are work. Yeah, they do take work.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about what kind of work we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the biggest work.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hear people when I say, oh, why did

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<v Speaker 2>you break up? Over? Why did you divorce? What happened?

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<v Speaker 1>They throw this blanket word out that is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>explain their entire marriage and the downfall. And that blanket

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<v Speaker 1>word is communication. We just have bad communication. Well, nearly

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<v Speaker 1>half of all adults and relationships say that they really

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<v Speaker 1>do struggle to express their emotional needs. And the research

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<v Speaker 1>is clear silence can sap connection over time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had women say to me, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>just stopped trying because I was so exhausted because my

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<v Speaker 1>partner just kept tuning out. Right, So let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the mindsets that you may have that may

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<v Speaker 1>hurt your love life. And then let's talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>prescription of what I think the good work, the joyful

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<v Speaker 1>work of love is. So the first bad mindset is

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<v Speaker 1>this idea about destiny.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>According to research from the University of Baselos who believe

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<v Speaker 1>in soulmates are actually more satisfied wait for it, wait

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<v Speaker 1>for it at the beginning of their relationship. But for

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<v Speaker 1>people who treat their relationships as a work in progress,

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<v Speaker 1>they're more content in the long run.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, I like this all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's another thing that can another thought mindset that can

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<v Speaker 1>hurt your love life. Thinking that the emotional labor imbalance

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<v Speaker 1>is okay, right, this idea that women hold all the

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<v Speaker 1>emotional keys, that women should bear the emotional load alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe it or not, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't until recent decades that we started going, oh, so

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<v Speaker 1>dudes have feelings. Oh so dudes can express their feelings. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>they just need to learn the words. Now, I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're one of those feeling dudes who's always been

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<v Speaker 1>a good communicator, you My husband, I think has always

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<v Speaker 1>been that way. He says he hasn't. He said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't teach an old dog nutrix. So there's also

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<v Speaker 1>You need to learn how to get your how to

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, So let's talk about a bullet prove prescription

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<v Speaker 1>And when you are communicating, you want to be using

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<v Speaker 1>Remember how special they were to you, So stop blaming

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<v Speaker 1>Their heart is in your hands. Also, don't demand you

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<v Speaker 1>need to I want you to do more of No no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I say this all the time. Acknowledge them, Acknowledge them,

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<v Speaker 1>Acknowledge them, their efforts, their efforts, their efter Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for texting, thank you for letting me know, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for doing that. Oh I so respect that you did that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is amazing. I feel like I thank Julio for

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<v Speaker 1>things all day long. Let me tell you something. Relationships

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<v Speaker 1>don't thrive on magic, fairy dust, Cupid's bow, the planets aligning,

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<v Speaker 1>soulmates finding each other. They are an exchange of care

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<v Speaker 1>and they thrive on consistent care, honest communication. Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>that big one empathy. So it's not about those big

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<v Speaker 1>the Doctor Ndywall Show on KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the home stretch of the Doctor Wendywall

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<v Speaker 1>Walls Show. But that doesn't mean we're going to stop

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<v Speaker 1>covering those important social unrest. The protests that are happening

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to continue to cover it throughout the night

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what an arbitrary is? An arbitrary versary? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mouthful, That's what it is. An arbitrary versary.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like an anniversary arbitrarily like for any old reason.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a trend. Love these trends.

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<v Speaker 1>Some couples are ditching the idea of celebrating traditional milestones. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've been listening to me for a while, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that I do not like Hallmark holidays. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like forced anything, forced grieving awakes, I don't like forced

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<v Speaker 1>celebration for no reason. Well, the calendar turned to a

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<v Speaker 2>Who invented that?

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<v Speaker 1>When?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are we drinking? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>And I definitely don't love Valentine's Day because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>pressure and it's designed to sell us things. So plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of couples are now ditching some of these traditional milestones.

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<v Speaker 2>For something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would say a little more playful, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, it's actually more meaningful. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>calling them arbitrary reversaries, so they could actually be good

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<v Speaker 1>for your relationship. Let's talk about it. So examples might

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I know that Julio and I do celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of arbitrary versaries for no reason because he

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<v Speaker 1>uses the word novelty. We need novelty, We need novelty

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<v Speaker 1>because apparently he's been listening to the Doctor Wendy Walsh

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<v Speaker 1>radio show and he knows that the research on long term, happy,

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<v Speaker 1>relatively happy couples is that they never get stuck in routine, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always this novelty that shows up. I've often said this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not talking about your sex life. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>could apply to your sex life. I mean, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>just put your partner in a new room, in a

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<v Speaker 2>A little more spicy.

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<v Speaker 1>But that also applies to emotionally doing something completely different

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<v Speaker 1>with your partner. So one of the things that Julio

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<v Speaker 1>and I have done, because we met during the COVID

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic and we were on lockdown, is I made a

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, I have fed him things that he found delicious,

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<v Speaker 1>but once I told him what was in it, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know it has mayonnaise in it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>for real, you tasted it, you liked it, and now

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<v Speaker 1>we do do picnics, no surprise food. One time we

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<v Speaker 1>in organ Unlet's drive four hours to show where the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of people would do that. We did sleep over

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<v Speaker 1>at an airbnb, you know, but we made it a

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<v Speaker 2>We made it an event.

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<v Speaker 1>We love to do hikes to nowhere, like we just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where we're going, which is always fun and.

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<v Speaker 1>And I make anniversary dinners out of a boring Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 1>I am one of those people. My mom raised me

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<v Speaker 1>this way where I pull out the fine china, silver everything,

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<v Speaker 1>the crystal, the table claws, I decorate with fresh flowers,

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<v Speaker 1>at a meat loaf. I mean, I just like to

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<v Speaker 1>it too. So how do these silly moments help our relationships?

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<v Speaker 1>According to one survey done by love Sense, they found

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<v Speaker 1>that one in four couples say that most often they

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<v Speaker 1>feel stuck in routine. Right, So if you take this

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<v Speaker 1>arbitrary versary and make it a mini celebration, you can

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<v Speaker 1>break monotony in your relationship and celebrating these tiny moments

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<v Speaker 1>can actually help couples build connection and honoring everyday kindness.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, I've said this many many times. If

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<v Speaker 1>you missed it, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Say it again.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to express gratitude and appreciate our partners as

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<v Speaker 1>much as possible. So there's also real scientific research. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite research is the Marriage Lab up the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Washington, John Gottman and his crew. They tell us

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<v Speaker 1>that long term satisfaction doesn't come from those big grand gestures,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not from Valentine's Day. It comes from those consistent,

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<v Speaker 1>small acts of emotional connection. John Gottman, the famous relationship researcher,

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<v Speaker 1>calls them positive sentiment override. Well, that's some psychobabble. Positive

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<v Speaker 1>sentiment override. He has this idea that our relationships have

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a ratio of positive and negative. Right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not all perfect, and if you have a little more

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<v Speaker 1>positive overriding the negative, you will do better. So on

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<v Speaker 1>social media, couples are starting to share their arbitrary versaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so cute, So you can you can google that,

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<v Speaker 2>So here's a little bit advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Choose something small, funny, meaningful. Call it your first taco

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<v Speaker 1>night together, the first time you laughed at two am together,

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<v Speaker 1>and re celebrate it in some way. Mark the celebration

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<v Speaker 1>with a joyful toast, A funny, mean, a silly little

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<v Speaker 1>five minute dance party.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a photo, leave a note, record a voice memo

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<v Speaker 2>Like literally.

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<v Speaker 1>Our first date was around a fire on August twentieth

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty, and it at a certain restaurant, and

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<v Speaker 1>every time we go there, I go, that's our place, honey.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the very first place we met on that

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<v Speaker 1>bumble matchup right, and do it regularly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we have sentiment. We were really sad to hear

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<v Speaker 2>that Will.

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers historic home burned in the Palises fires, because that

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<v Speaker 1>our picnics.

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<v Speaker 2>That was very sad, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say life isn't just about the

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<v Speaker 1>big moments, although we do need those rituals, those big graduations,

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<v Speaker 1>but we also need to have many moments where we

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<v Speaker 1>just show appreciation, we just care about somebody. So I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to put your thinking hat on and this

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<v Speaker 1>week I want you to think of an arbitrary versary

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<v Speaker 1>that you can do with the person you love. It

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<v Speaker 1>is always my pleasure to be with you on KFI

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<v Speaker 1>Walsh and there it will come up. But I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>here for you. Every Sunday, you and listening to the

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