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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, this is Heidigan All filling in for Dan
Speaker 2: Caplis this lovely Wednesday night.
Speaker 3: It's hot out there.
Speaker 2: It's what one hundred degrees today, pretty toasty, but beautiful,
Speaker 2: beautiful Colorado summer day. One of the things that I
Speaker 2: noticed when I was traveling abroad was like, the climate
Speaker 2: here in Colorado is just different.
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of humidity.
Speaker 2: But no matter how hot it is, it's still pretty
Speaker 2: nice out But one of the things that it affords
Speaker 2: us to do is really enjoy our outdoors. And tomorrow
Speaker 2: I'm actually getting on an airplane again to go to Washington,
Speaker 2: DC for a board meeting. I'm on the board of
Speaker 2: the American Conservation Coalition. It's called ACC and it is
Speaker 2: a really cool organization that helped President Trump put together
Speaker 2: a really neat executive order called Make America Beautiful Again.
Speaker 3: And why is this important?
Speaker 2: Well, this is important because one of the things that
Speaker 2: Colorado young people care most about is our environment.
Speaker 3: They want clean land, clean air, clean water, and.
Speaker 2: Yes, they care about climate change, even conservative young people.
Speaker 2: And the Make America Beautiful Act is President Trump's way
Speaker 2: of supporting the idea that we are actually the.
Speaker 3: Party of conservation.
Speaker 2: We're the party of Teddy Roosevelt, the original conservation guy,
Speaker 2: and we have great ideas on how to make our air, water,
Speaker 2: and land cleaner and better protected. And it's not just
Speaker 2: all about climate change. It's about making sure that we
Speaker 2: support the people who make a living off the land,
Speaker 2: the ranchers, the farmers, the great people across the state
Speaker 2: of Colorado that have been here for generations and generations,
Speaker 2: and making sure that they are part of the conversation
Speaker 2: which absolutely has not been happening in Colorado, as evidenced
Speaker 2: by the whole wolves conversation and that debacle that's been
Speaker 2: the role out of introducing wolves back into our state.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to meet with the fellow board members.
Speaker 2: Corey Gardner's very involved in this group, so is Chris Wright,
Speaker 2: who's now our energy secretary. They've got over eighty thousand
Speaker 2: members across the country at college campuses across the United States,
Speaker 2: that are involved in ACC, young people that care deeply
Speaker 2: about this and are taking the conversation back from the
Speaker 2: left about who really cares about the environment.
Speaker 3: Well, I think all young people care about the environment.
Speaker 2: But I think we have better solutions and all of
Speaker 2: the above energy approach, using nuclear energy where we can,
Speaker 2: and making sure that there's reasonable approaches to conservation of land,
Speaker 2: working with our ranchers, our farmers, the folks on the
Speaker 2: ground that have been here for generations and generations. So
Speaker 2: I think this has to be a really big part
Speaker 2: of our strategy. Ward's communicating with young conservatives in Colorado,
Speaker 2: with young people in general on college campuses too, So
Speaker 2: I would encourage all of you to go check out
Speaker 2: the website ACC dot eco. I also just wrote an
Speaker 2: article in Rocky Mountain Voice about MABA make America Beautiful Again,
Speaker 2: And you can learn a lot more about this movement
Speaker 2: by finding that article on R and V Rocky Mountain
Speaker 2: Voice dot com. It's I think you just search MABA
Speaker 2: or look in the last couple of days it came out,
Speaker 2: or look on my social media.
Speaker 3: But it's really really.
Speaker 2: Important to meet young people where they are and this
Speaker 2: is an issue they care deeply about and you know, Ryan,
Speaker 2: I think it's part of this whole approach to bringing
Speaker 2: young people into the party.
Speaker 3: We've got to meet.
Speaker 2: Them where they are on issues that they care about.
Speaker 2: And I think this is a really important one in
Speaker 2: Colorado as we enjoy this beautiful state in this beautiful summer.
Speaker 2: I think it's got to be a conversation that we
Speaker 2: take back from the left.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: I mean, there's got to be a way, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think we made headway, and there's just
Speaker 5: such a there's so much ground to be made up.
Speaker 5: And I thought the campaign that you ran against Jared
Speaker 5: Polis was as well as any individual could ron, especially
Speaker 5: against someone of his means.
Speaker 4: That was always like, you know.
Speaker 5: The big obstacle was that he was independently wealthy and
Speaker 5: could spend his own money on his campaign. And that's
Speaker 5: an observation that Dan made many times. But are there
Speaker 5: vulnerable candidates? I mean, you can't sit there and tell
Speaker 5: me that Michael Bennett is some kind of invincible force.
Speaker 5: You know, even Kyle Clark, comrade Kyle, our good friend,
Speaker 5: calls him a cicada because he only comes around every
Speaker 5: thirteen years to be heard or seen. And that's a
Speaker 5: derisive comment in and of itself from a media member
Speaker 5: of the left. And he has to me the favorite
Speaker 5: because Phil none the Wiser is exactly that refuses.
Speaker 3: To run the Wiser. I have not heard that before.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
Speaker 5: Dan claims it was in existence like long before I
Speaker 5: coined it.
Speaker 4: That's false, that's fake news. But what Phil didn't do
Speaker 4: was step up.
Speaker 5: And let's just I'm just objectively offering a Nichols worth
Speaker 5: of free advice to Phil Wiser on his campaign if
Speaker 5: he's going to run head to head against Bennett, who
Speaker 5: has better name recognition, certainly nationally. And Michael Bennett comes
Speaker 5: out and says, well, I'm gonna hold onto my Senate seat,
Speaker 5: you know, till I'm governor that I could pick my successor.
Speaker 4: He's like, no, no, no, bro, you're gonna run.
Speaker 5: Then you leave the Senate seat behind and then Jared
Speaker 5: Paulus fills it and then you focus on the governor's race.
Speaker 5: But he doesn't want to do that. Once that was
Speaker 5: cake and eat it too. Wiser should have went all
Speaker 5: in on that crickets. So you know, got to figure
Speaker 5: that Bennett's the favorite.
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: But have you heard and speaking of the environment, talking
Speaker 2: about Colorado and conservation, that Ken Salazar is going to
Speaker 2: jump in? Who was the previous Department of Interior secretary
Speaker 2: correct under Obama?
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's a pretty big name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard rumblings about that. Nothing yet, but I
Speaker 2: hear things they're teeing up for him to.
Speaker 3: Take on Michael Bennett and Phil Wiser. Where do you
Speaker 3: think that would bring to the race.
Speaker 5: I think that could be a game changer in triangulating
Speaker 5: not only the party and the voters within the Democratic Party.
Speaker 5: He would participate in the primary, But where does the
Speaker 5: money go? Where do the donors go? Are they automatically
Speaker 5: going to line up behind Bennett or sell Us?
Speaker 4: Are you knows.
Speaker 5: Well connected in Colorado politics himself? Might he drain some
Speaker 5: of that support away from Bennett and make it an
Speaker 5: actual race? Because I don't see if it's head to
Speaker 5: head basically essentially, what it boils down to Bennett versus
Speaker 5: Wise or the field stands a chance?
Speaker 4: But Salas, are you know now you got three in
Speaker 4: the race that could change the dynamic a little bit.
Speaker 2: I think well, I mean I think back to our
Speaker 2: conversation about who's running on the conservative side. I have
Speaker 2: heard and today Colorada Times a Quarter, which I don't
Speaker 2: think of as media, they're a Democrat propaganda site, but
Speaker 2: they researched and found that Barb Kirkmeyer had registered Kirkmeyer
Speaker 2: for governor.
Speaker 3: And I've heard that she's going to jump in, or
Speaker 3: she was looking at some polling, but I don't know what.
Speaker 2: If she's looking at polling that says that, wow, we
Speaker 2: have a great shot at pulling this off, like I don't.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that anywhere.
Speaker 2: So I think Barb a great state senator. I think
Speaker 2: we've got sixteen people already running. I've heard Bobby Daniel
Speaker 2: from the Western Slope is going to jump in.
Speaker 3: We'd love to have some more ladies in the race.
Speaker 2: But this is all going to come down to money,
Speaker 2: Monney money. I can't and I wish I hadn't learned
Speaker 2: this lesson the hard way, But I learned that I
Speaker 2: was naive enough to think I could outwork the money
Speaker 2: thirty three million dollars worth compared to our four or
Speaker 2: five million dollars.
Speaker 3: But the candidates that I've been talking to, I asked.
Speaker 2: Them that question, where are you getting the money to
Speaker 2: do this, How are you going to outraise the other
Speaker 2: people to win the primary or to win the general.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard any good answers to that question. So
Speaker 2: that's my biggest worry on the Republican side is that
Speaker 2: people are thinking that they can outwork the money, and
Speaker 2: I learned that lesson the hard way. It doesn't work
Speaker 2: that way. You got to at least stay even with them.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that. Have you seen anything
Speaker 2: or heard anything that we should feel.
Speaker 3: Differently about that?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: I think the blueprint would be similar to the national scene,
Speaker 5: and how do Republicans rest back power? We did so
Speaker 5: with an independently wealthy billionaire in the form of Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: Even before that, either.
Speaker 5: Bush, Herbert Walker, Bush, or w that's a wealthy family
Speaker 5: that was able to kind of use that as a
Speaker 5: culgel in politics. We haven't seen really that voice on
Speaker 5: our side of the aisle break through in any meaningful way.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of a state level race too,
Speaker 5: not just hear in Colorado, but nationwide where maybe a
Speaker 5: populist voice that wasn't wealthy was able to overcome that
Speaker 5: enormous obstacle. That is just kind of the unspoken rule
Speaker 5: in politics now, which is where the dollars go the
Speaker 5: w's And I see that as being, like to your point,
Speaker 5: in your race, an insurmountable obstacles. So how do we
Speaker 5: overcome that here in Colorado when the resources are already kind
Speaker 5: of stacked against us as an advantage for Democrats?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I don't have an answer to that.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty in tune with all the donors in Colorado
Speaker 2: a nationwide now, and I understand their concerns that we just.
Speaker 3: Don't see it. We don't see a path forward here.
Speaker 2: We're rebuilding that, we're doing everything we can to put
Speaker 2: the infrastructure in place to make that happen. And I
Speaker 2: want to be optimistic, and we need good candidates running,
Speaker 2: but they've got to make fundraising a huge priority.
Speaker 3: And they've also been quiet on the issue of.
Speaker 2: Election integrity, which is shocking to me because a lot
Speaker 2: of the people running for governor have been very loud
Speaker 2: and vocal about, oh, the elections are stolen, like we
Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable, like our vote matters, and yet they're
Speaker 2: not talking about what's going to change to get them elected,
Speaker 2: like what's going to happen what work are they doing
Speaker 2: to make sure that our vote is counted fairly and
Speaker 2: that the elections are like on the up and up.
Speaker 3: I don't hear anybody talking about that.
Speaker 5: And it's another thing too to overcome the inherent media
Speaker 5: coverage obstacle in this state in particular as well, and
Speaker 5: you see it in the form.
Speaker 4: I think a good.
Speaker 5: Example of how our party was able to get a
Speaker 5: very significant win was in the eighth congressional district with
Speaker 5: Gabe Evans against Yudira Caravel. And there were a lot
Speaker 5: of negative ads as you might recall from the Democratic
Speaker 5: Party against Gabe late in that race, and yet he was.
Speaker 4: Still able to pull out a victory.
Speaker 5: I think he might lend himself to being able to
Speaker 5: show that roadmap or provide that guidance for somebody to
Speaker 5: based on his message, which he was very good at delivering,
Speaker 5: the debate performance that he had against you Deira Caravale,
Speaker 5: which I thought was a total mismatch, and winning a
Speaker 5: seat that was narrowly lost before by the aforementioned Barb Kirkmeyer.
Speaker 5: So I think there's an element of strategy that could
Speaker 5: be involved here that could be winning. But we're talking
Speaker 5: about state wide races, and that's a totally different ballgame,
Speaker 5: as you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he.
Speaker 2: Had the NRCC behind him right like they wanted to
Speaker 2: play nationally in that race, and same in CD three,
Speaker 2: And that makes a huge difference. If you don't have
Speaker 2: the RNC or the RGA which is the Governor Association,
Speaker 2: or the NRSC which is the Senate which I don't
Speaker 2: think the Senate National Senate Committee's going to put any
Speaker 2: money into the national in the Senate race here.
Speaker 3: Then that's a big issue.
Speaker 2: That's ten twenty thirty million dollars that you're missing, and
Speaker 2: the campaign finance laws make it incredibly difficult to compete
Speaker 2: with that without a pack or outside dark money to
Speaker 2: make that happen. So I think we've got our candidates
Speaker 2: need to start talking about how they're going to raise
Speaker 2: the money to be competitive, how they're going to deal
Speaker 2: with election integrity, how they're going to deal with the
Speaker 2: liberal media, Like how are they going to get their
Speaker 2: message out? They're not calling Rocky Mountain Voice and saying, hey,
Speaker 2: we need to help, we need to get you guys,
Speaker 2: you know, reaching out to a million people, not just
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand, you know, I just it's a little discouraging,
Speaker 2: and I would say that the candidates who do come
Speaker 2: out of the gate and can talk about solutions for
Speaker 2: those problems are going to have a better shot at
Speaker 2: winning the primary. But we've got a lot more to
Speaker 2: talk about on this front, Ryan, I know, I want
Speaker 2: to pick your brain on some other things around the
Speaker 2: upcoming elections. So this is iiding and all filling in
Speaker 2: for Dan Kaplis. We'll be back in just a few
Speaker 2: minutes to continue the conversation.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 6: Sebastian is not the only one who's sick and tired
Speaker 6: of taking off your shoes at the airport and seeing
Speaker 6: other people's feet. What are we talking about here? We'll
Speaker 6: get this, going through airport security.
Speaker 4: Is too much of a hassle.
Speaker 6: Fifty nine percent fifty nine percent a flyer say it
Speaker 6: is too much of a hassle. And amongst those who
Speaker 6: haven't signed up for TSA prechecks, such as myself, we're
Speaker 6: talking over sixty percent of those flyers say going through
Speaker 6: airport security is too much of a hassle. But it's
Speaker 6: not just that it's a hassle to take off your shoes.
Speaker 6: It's also that Americans didn't think it was actually doing anything.
Speaker 6: What are we talking about here, taking off shoes at
Speaker 6: airport security?
Speaker 4: Very effective security measure?
Speaker 6: Only twenty six percent of Americans said it was a
Speaker 6: very effective security measure. And get this, They asked Americans
Speaker 6: to rate seven different ways in which the airport was
Speaker 6: trying to ensure security. Guess we're taking off your shoes
Speaker 6: r In terms of those seven different ways, it ranked
Speaker 6: seventh out of seventh when it came to very effective
Speaker 6: security measures. Of course, there is a whole question of
Speaker 6: whether or not this will impact whether folks like myself
Speaker 6: actually sign up for TSA PreCheck. And indeed, when we're
Speaker 6: talking about Department of Homeland Security Trusted Traveler programs for
Speaker 6: expedited screening, including TSA PreCheck, get this, over forty million
Speaker 6: Americans are signed up for it. Will folks actually stay
Speaker 6: signed up now that you don't have to take your
Speaker 6: shoes off anymore? Well, maybe so, because keep in mind,
Speaker 6: you're still going to have to take off your jacket
Speaker 6: if you're not signed up for a DHS Trusted Traveler program.
Speaker 4: So I guess the.
Speaker 6: Question is, is taking off your shoes really that much to
Speaker 6: go back? To the old ways.
Speaker 2: I guess, oh, Ryan, this is such a pet peeve
Speaker 2: of mine.
Speaker 4: Mask flying, I was just flying.
Speaker 3: I'm in a flagon tomorrow, and it's just it's like
Speaker 3: the silliest I mean, I get why they did it.
Speaker 2: They were but I read a really funny post or
Speaker 2: somebody said the man who unsuccessfully tried to do the
Speaker 2: shoe bomb thing irritated, annoyed, and just destroyed people, more
Speaker 2: people in the world than any other human being on
Speaker 2: the planet. Like he's the most annoying person on the planet.
Speaker 2: For the last twenty years, he's made everybody take off
Speaker 2: their shoes.
Speaker 5: Well you remember who that was. No, his name was
Speaker 5: Richard Reid, and I think it was a flight either
Speaker 5: two or from France. And do you know where he's
Speaker 5: currently serving his time, No, Florence Supermax.
Speaker 4: Right here in Colorado. Yeah, seriously, true story.
Speaker 3: He needs to be in jail for making all of
Speaker 3: us do that for twenty years. That was ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Should be slapped across the face with a shoe every day,
Speaker 5: because yeah, that was his action. It happened right around
Speaker 5: the same time as nine to eleven. I mean, we're
Speaker 5: going back almost twenty five years now. And that's when
Speaker 5: we had to start taking off our shoes. I remember distinctly, Heidi,
Speaker 5: the only marathon I've ever completed was July two thousand
Speaker 5: and one, right before nine to eleven, like not even
Speaker 5: two full months before nine to eleven, and I flew
Speaker 5: to San Diego, and I remember distinctly just getting on
Speaker 5: the plane. Now there's security, but you know, just kind
Speaker 5: of walk on through. You get on the plane, you
Speaker 5: get off the plane. That was the last time I ever.
Speaker 4: Flew like that.
Speaker 2: Ah, it's just it's so it's such a process now
Speaker 2: to fly. And the parking at DA is so bad.
Speaker 2: You literally have to park in far reaches of Aurara.
Speaker 4: Get to the air Do you have tsa pre check?
Speaker 3: I do, and I have clear I have everything. Wow,
Speaker 3: it doesn't help.
Speaker 4: Well, wait a minute.
Speaker 5: I'll give DIA some credit because we know they get
Speaker 5: a lot of criticism. And I heard Mike Johnston, the mayor,
Speaker 5: you know how his voice is on the shuttle and
Speaker 5: you're going there, we're now the fifth most busy airport
Speaker 5: in the world.
Speaker 4: Like that's not great.
Speaker 5: He leaves it hanging, goes can you name the top four?
Speaker 5: And he never gives the answer. It's like, well, wait
Speaker 5: a minute, what was the answer, Mayor Mike. But I
Speaker 5: do like the did some reconstruction on the line for
Speaker 5: TSA pre check and clear and how you go in,
Speaker 5: and it's pretty streamlined and it's pretty quick, and I
Speaker 5: do appreciate that.
Speaker 4: If you say so, I think so.
Speaker 5: I mean better than it was because remember you go
Speaker 5: through the rat maze.
Speaker 4: And everybody else. That's true, it's totally separate entrance.
Speaker 5: Now for those of us that and it's that what
Speaker 5: is a fifty bucks You pay that in advance, you
Speaker 5: get a security clearance check for TSA pre for five years.
Speaker 2: Yes, you actually have to go to the airport and
Speaker 2: interview and you have a certain time slot. If you
Speaker 2: don't show up, it takes another five months to get in.
Speaker 2: It's it's pretty hardcore to get that. But and clear
Speaker 2: you pay I think it's what one nine year But
Speaker 2: I travel all the time, so it's it's.
Speaker 4: Worth it for me.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. This goes to a bigger issue.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw.
Speaker 2: One of the most important Supreme Court decisions I don't
Speaker 2: know in my lifetime, was made a couple of days ago,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't talked a lot about in the press,
Speaker 2: but it goes to bureaucracy, goes to TSA and government employees.
Speaker 2: It actually allows Trump administration, the Trump administration to downsize
Speaker 2: these agencies and actually lay people.
Speaker 3: Off, which has been a huge issue.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I talked to Will Traigman,
Speaker 2: a friend of mine who runs Mountain States Legal Foundation.
Speaker 3: He's a great guy.
Speaker 2: He worked for the Office of Civil Rights under Betsy Devas,
Speaker 2: and he said, there's this thing called burrowing in and
Speaker 2: you may have heard this, where they the presidents or
Speaker 2: the staff, hire all these people and it's almost impossible
Speaker 2: to fire them or get rid of them. And so
Speaker 2: every new administration that comes in has to make a decision,
Speaker 2: especially if they're conservative. They can't downsize because then they're
Speaker 2: outnumbered because they can't lay people off, and then they
Speaker 2: end up in lawsuits anyway. So they have to add
Speaker 2: more people so that they're not outnumbered, which just grows
Speaker 2: it and grows it and grows it. So the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court actually said a couple days ago that they can
Speaker 2: downsize these agencies. It's going to be magic. It's beautiful.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: Super excited to see that happen.
Speaker 2: This is Hidi gan All filling in for Dan Caplis
Speaker 2: with my friend Ryan Schulling. We'll be back after the break.
Speaker 4: You're listening to the Dankplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh hello, it's.
Speaker 2: Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan Caplis here with my
Speaker 2: friend Ryan.
Speaker 4: Hello.
Speaker 2: Ryan, I got some good text messages with tips I'm
Speaker 2: parking at DIA while we were on break. So this
Speaker 2: one says, Hi, do you use fine f I n
Speaker 2: E parking at da seamless?
Speaker 4: Never heard of it?
Speaker 3: I haven't either, but I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 2: And then this texture says, I don't recommend parking at
Speaker 2: the airport, too many incidents of stolen cars and catalytic converters.
Speaker 2: But if you do park, I like Wally park, reserve
Speaker 2: your spot ahead of time.
Speaker 3: That's asking a lot from me.
Speaker 4: You know where that text came from.
Speaker 5: No five feet to my left, No of Alexa, beautiful Alexa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Alexa like everywhere.
Speaker 3: I'm so bad at planning ahead of time for this stuff,
Speaker 3: even the day of. Is there an app or what
Speaker 3: do you do?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I have?
Speaker 7: I think my husband's use that app. Okay, think there
Speaker 7: is an app, but very easy. You tell them what
Speaker 7: time your flight leaves and what time you land, and
Speaker 7: you just call them when you land and they're there.
Speaker 3: So all right, well that's good news. That's good news.
Speaker 3: I will try it.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna uber tomorrow, but or actually just
Speaker 2: take a car since I'm gonna be on like a
Speaker 2: couple of days. But I there's another article in Rocky
Speaker 2: Mountain Boye. I want to bring everyone's attention. And like
Speaker 2: I said, I've been gone so I haven't paid close
Speaker 2: attention to what's going on here, but maybe you have.
Speaker 2: Ryan Paulo's just called for a special session in August
Speaker 2: because Trump's budget bombshell blew a one billion dollar hole
Speaker 2: in Colorado's finances.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 2: Now, when I dug into this, here's what's really going on.
Speaker 2: They're blaming it on the bill. But what actually is
Speaker 2: going on is that they're requiring through the bill for
Speaker 2: people to work, if they're able bodied, to get Medicaid benefits.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So I don't think that's asking too much. No, I
Speaker 2: don't think most Americans think that's asking for too much.
Speaker 2: But the other thing is they're asking for the states
Speaker 2: to make sure that people are eligible for Medicaid benefits
Speaker 2: twice a year before we pay out big sums of
Speaker 2: money to help, you know, cover them and make sure
Speaker 2: that they're not illegally here. And the other reason that
Speaker 2: Colorado is going to be in such a hole is
Speaker 2: let me pull this up because I want to. I
Speaker 2: don't want to mess this up, right, But.
Speaker 3: The bill cuts.
Speaker 2: From ninety percent to a much lower percentage the portion
Speaker 2: of costs the federal government will pay for emergency only
Speaker 2: Medicaid services for otherwise ineligible non citizens. Oh so they're
Speaker 2: still going to pay for some of this for people
Speaker 2: who aren't citizens for emergency only services, but it's just
Speaker 2: down from ninety percent to fifty percent. So the states
Speaker 2: have to decide if they're going to kick in that
Speaker 2: extra amount. So again this goes back to the effects
Speaker 2: of immigration on our state, on our country, and we
Speaker 2: got to take care of our own citizens first.
Speaker 5: Think about the budget shortfall in the city of Denver
Speaker 5: too that may Or Mike Johnson is facing, and why
Speaker 5: because it is a bottomless pit of a so called
Speaker 5: investment in accommodating illegal aliens ahead of our own citizens,
Speaker 5: and so they're looking to lay people off to fire people,
Speaker 5: to cut staff, to cut parks and wreck, to cut
Speaker 5: out of their services provided by the city, all for
Speaker 5: what I would say is a boondoggle investment that you
Speaker 5: don't get a return on that investment in Roli, so
Speaker 5: to speak, you're just kind of paying this out. Nothing's
Speaker 5: coming in. The tax base is leaving. So those that
Speaker 5: you would like to collect taxes on business owners, restaurant owners,
Speaker 5: et cetera, they're fleeing, they're getting out of town. So
Speaker 5: that's another problem where you get upside down in all
Speaker 5: of this. And then it goes back to the point
Speaker 5: that I was discussing with Representative Gabe Evans in an
Speaker 5: interview I conducted with him recently, which is, if we're
Speaker 5: against waste, fraud and abuse in the big beautiful bill
Speaker 5: when it comes to Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security benefits, then
Speaker 5: therefore the conclusion you can draw is the Democrats, as
Speaker 5: you just kind of pointed out, they support waste, fraud
Speaker 5: and abuse and excess of spending that should be cut.
Speaker 2: Okay, So how do we get through to the voters
Speaker 2: in Colorado that this is what they're voting for, because
Speaker 2: obviously I don't think they're conscious of that, or they
Speaker 2: just so blindly following the Democrat mantras that they don't
Speaker 2: want to know or ignoring it what's going on here.
Speaker 5: I think it's a battle of information, and you know,
Speaker 5: people can seek out shows like this one or shows
Speaker 5: like mine and Denver and you know, find out what's
Speaker 5: really going on that cuts through the clutter and the
Speaker 5: white noise. It's being presented to them by the mainstream media,
Speaker 5: which is largely just lying to them and packaging it
Speaker 5: a certain way. But then again, you've got this kind
Speaker 5: of deluge of information for those that are kind of
Speaker 5: load to medium information voters. They're not really thinking about it.
Speaker 5: They're going about their everyday lives. They're working in their jobs,
Speaker 5: they don't have a lot of time to spare, and
Speaker 5: they're just being sold this bill of goods and fed
Speaker 5: this kind of information, and I don't think they really
Speaker 5: get to the heart of the matter as to what's
Speaker 5: really going on here. Where's the money going, where is
Speaker 5: it coming from, who's it being spent on, who's being
Speaker 5: prioritized And it's not the citizens of Denver, and it's
Speaker 5: not the citizens of Colorado.
Speaker 2: So Ryan, if you're a candidate running for governor or
Speaker 2: attorney general or.
Speaker 3: Treasurer, secretary of state.
Speaker 2: As a Republican, what do you do differently this time
Speaker 2: to wake people up?
Speaker 3: Is there anything you can do.
Speaker 2: Differently and pretend you don't have millions and millions of dollars?
Speaker 2: How can we approach this differently to give our candidates
Speaker 2: a shot without writing them a check for forty fifty
Speaker 2: million dollars?
Speaker 5: I think we need an exceptional communicator, somebody that that's
Speaker 5: front and center and how they operate, they run their ballgame,
Speaker 5: how they present themselves to the average voter, who they
Speaker 5: reach out to, what do they use to reach those people?
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of it.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, because of the numbers game here is they're gonna
Speaker 5: have to go behind enemy lines, like do a sit
Speaker 5: down with Kyle Clark. I know, I know, I'm aware
Speaker 5: of it. Well, I get through to people that might
Speaker 5: not otherwise.
Speaker 2: See, you work for Greg Lopez. He got destroyed by
Speaker 2: Kyle and they use that clip in every negative ad
Speaker 2: against him.
Speaker 4: Yes, yep, that's the risk, that's the risk.
Speaker 5: But I don't know how otherwise you penetrate into these markets,
Speaker 5: the Denver Boulder corridor. You know, a rappa Hole County
Speaker 5: where I live, has gone from red in two thousand
Speaker 5: and four to deep blue now and again. It's a
Speaker 5: war of information and if you don't have the money
Speaker 5: kind of generate your own momentum in that regard, then
Speaker 5: you have to kind of win in Rome do as
Speaker 5: the Romans do.
Speaker 2: Are you watching New Jersey at all? And what's going
Speaker 2: on with the governor's race there?
Speaker 4: I have not heard a lot.
Speaker 2: It's cool Jack and I always mess up his name,
Speaker 2: CITRELLI who he and I texted a lot when we
Speaker 2: were running for governor in twenty two.
Speaker 3: He's running again and he's doing a great job. He's
Speaker 3: a great communicator. He's just New Jersey through and through.
Speaker 3: He's focusing on the right issues.
Speaker 2: And I actually think they have a chance of flipping
Speaker 2: things in New Jersey. But here's one thing that's happening
Speaker 2: that I think we need in Colorado is all the
Speaker 2: rest of the states are kind of seeing this momentum
Speaker 2: and this hope in New Jersey and get behind helping him.
Speaker 2: And so if we live in a state like Colorado
Speaker 2: where we kind of like, I don't know if we
Speaker 2: can do anything here, let's help another state flip and
Speaker 2: So what if we all get behind texting and calling
Speaker 2: and supporting voters in New Jersey and then what if
Speaker 2: next election they help us, Like what if we pool
Speaker 2: resources like that and get a lot more momentum going
Speaker 2: for certain states that actually we do see a glimmer
Speaker 2: of hope and we can see the light at the
Speaker 2: end of the tunnel. We got to push them over
Speaker 2: the finish line, which is actually what we did with
Speaker 2: the Road to Red project.
Speaker 3: In the twenty twenty four election.
Speaker 2: We all we got a bunch of women's groups on
Speaker 2: Colorado to get together and write handwritten postcards to women
Speaker 2: undecided voters in Philadelphia, and we kind of called them
Speaker 2: our sister state and we said, let's help there. We
Speaker 2: wrote over seven thousand handwritten postcards from women in Colorado,
Speaker 2: did this to women in Pennsylvania in Philadelphia who we
Speaker 2: knew were on the fence. Turning point gave us information
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, these are the women you want to
Speaker 2: reach out to. And we played a little role right
Speaker 2: in getting Donald Trump elected since Colorado didn't want to
Speaker 2: play ball there. But I think we could start to
Speaker 2: look at things that way, and maybe that's how we
Speaker 2: look at some of the races in Colorado too. We
Speaker 2: find races for state legislature or attorney General, secretary of state, whatever.
Speaker 2: Pick some races where we have a really good candidate
Speaker 2: who's messaging well, and we just focus our energy on winning,
Speaker 2: picking off just a couple, you know, a couple of
Speaker 2: these tough races. I think that's what happened with Rebecca
Speaker 2: Kelt down in Opaso County.
Speaker 3: She only won by three votes, but she won. I
Speaker 3: remember that, and everybody around the state was of like,
Speaker 3: I like that chick. She's good cheat.
Speaker 2: She ran for Congress before, and she was edgy and
Speaker 2: fun and I really enjoyed getting to know her on
Speaker 2: the campaign trail when I was running for region.
Speaker 3: I think it was.
Speaker 2: But you know, just maybe looking at some candidates that
Speaker 2: are out of the box, that are showing signs of
Speaker 2: doing things differently, and maybe they have.
Speaker 3: A great social media following.
Speaker 2: That's why Britta is having Aaron come to the Capitol
Speaker 2: Club meeting next week the seventeenth. You should really come
Speaker 2: check her out or check follow her on TikTok. It's
Speaker 2: Liberty and Logic. I think is her following or her handle.
Speaker 3: She's an unaffiliated.
Speaker 2: Voter, but very conservative, and she knocks it out of
Speaker 2: the park on socially. She has a great way of
Speaker 2: messaging things and she's shown us the way, and we
Speaker 2: got to find bright lights like that to do things
Speaker 2: differently in this coming election. All right, Ryan, I've rambled
Speaker 2: on a lot in this segment. We're going to come
Speaker 2: back and ramble a little bit more with your help
Speaker 2: and talk about how we can win in twenty six.
Speaker 2: This isol filling in for Dan Capless. We'll see you
Speaker 2: after the break.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kapless Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Ryan, you are so good at catching these songs ramble
Speaker 2: on after I was rambling on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it. You're so flooney, very quick.
Speaker 2: All right, This is Hidigan All I filled in for
Speaker 2: Jan Capless today. I wanted to finish up by giving
Speaker 2: you the correct handle for logic and liberty Logic and
Speaker 2: liberty at on TikTok. She has one hundred and forty
Speaker 2: thousand followers. She's right here in Colorado. Check her out.
Speaker 2: Also check out Isabelle Brown, our own Colorado girl, has
Speaker 2: a new platform with Daily Wire.
Speaker 3: Go check her out.
Speaker 2: She's got a new show, articles, a great article on motherhood,
Speaker 2: and of course my daughter Torriganol is doing the Mountain
Speaker 2: Minute every day in ninety second video. The news of
Speaker 2: the day can find out on Rocky Mountain Voice. There's
Speaker 2: some young up and comers you can follow and get
Speaker 2: the news and get a different perspective.
Speaker 3: Very very important to do.
Speaker 5: I think I think of Tori and that generation when
Speaker 5: you brought up the point going into the last break
Speaker 5: and how important it is to reach people where they
Speaker 5: are and how they listen. For instance, with this radio show,
Speaker 5: a lot of people do listen over the air still,
Speaker 5: but there are a lot of people that consume media
Speaker 5: in different ways now, so they'll listen to the podcast
Speaker 5: version of today's program, and so the younger people are
Speaker 5: moving in that direction. Similarly, you mentioned TikTok or Instagram
Speaker 5: or Facebook or x or any of these other platforms
Speaker 5: that had that viral moment.
Speaker 4: And even though.
Speaker 5: Mumbani or Mumdani rather in New York City, he had
Speaker 5: a very strong online presence. He's very online, very viral
Speaker 5: with videos and things. It doesn't really matter what he
Speaker 5: was saying, communist bunk, but people were kind of catching
Speaker 5: on to what he picking up what he's putting down.
Speaker 5: You know, he's young, he's a good looking guy, he's energetic.
Speaker 5: I think you got to have somebody who has that
Speaker 5: kind of force of personality, can convey it in a
Speaker 5: meaningful way, can connect with people on that level.
Speaker 4: That's not just nuts and bolts.
Speaker 5: Issue was oriented, although I think those are still important,
Speaker 5: but you got to get people's attention and how do
Speaker 5: you do that? And I think there's just newer that
Speaker 5: we got to update ourselves in the Republican Party to
Speaker 5: find those new avenues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to wrap this up, a Yale youth poll was
Speaker 2: just done. There's an eighteen point partisan gap between younger
Speaker 2: and older members of Generation Z. So voters age twenty
Speaker 2: two to twenty nine favored Democrat candidates in the twenty
Speaker 2: six mid terms by six point four points, while those
Speaker 2: aged eighteen to twenty one favored Republicans by a margin
Speaker 2: of almost twelve points.
Speaker 4: Isn't that remarkable?
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: So we've got to engage those eighteen to twenty one
Speaker 2: year olds in a big, big way because they're going
Speaker 2: to vote our way, even in Colorado. So that's a
Speaker 2: tip for Britet I know she's listening, and for those
Speaker 2: of us working to turn this state around. It's eighteen
Speaker 2: to twenty one year olds that favor Republicans by a
Speaker 2: margin of eleven point seven points. And we do that
Speaker 2: on social media by having great fun events, making it
Speaker 2: fun to be a conservative again, by talking about conservative
Speaker 2: conservation and the environment, like acc dot Eco, the American
Speaker 2: Conservation Coalition, eighty thousand members of young people across the country.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of new ways to engage young people.
Speaker 2: We've got to stay on top of that. That's the
Speaker 2: most important thing I think we can do in the
Speaker 2: Republican Party here in Colorado to secure our future here
Speaker 2: and to wake people up to vote differently.
Speaker 3: But Ryan, it's been a pleasure being with you today.
Speaker 2: I'm I had a lot of fun talking about all
Speaker 2: kinds of things, and thank you for tolerating my jet lag.
Speaker 4: How bad is it?
Speaker 3: It's okay.
Speaker 2: A few times I've said things, I'm like, is that
Speaker 2: my mouth connecting.
Speaker 7: To my.
Speaker 2: In fact, somebody texted, don't say see you after the break.
Speaker 5: I'm well, you'll see me. But yeah, that's that's actually
Speaker 5: a good point.
Speaker 3: I guess amateur hour here with him.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, just a nitpicking picking of nits.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 2: That's how we get better. We nit nitpick, right, But
Speaker 2: what are you up to this weekend?
Speaker 1: Ryan?
Speaker 3: You do anything fun?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 4: Kind of still in search mode.
Speaker 5: There's some music festivals and stuff going around in the area.
Speaker 5: I think Long Month's got one going long but yeah,
Speaker 5: and I'm not the one throwing it down.
Speaker 4: But yeah. Going with Christian Toto to a rodeo tonight.
Speaker 6: Nice.
Speaker 4: Not in the springs. Yeah, I guess you have roots.
Speaker 2: I do have roots in El Paso County. I'm a
Speaker 2: monument garrel. Yeah, okay, we did a little bit of rodeo.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of kids at school that were
Speaker 2: really into the rodeo because it was black forest and
Speaker 2: kind of rural El Paso County. It was a lot
Speaker 2: of fun and I think one of my favorite things
Speaker 2: is a see you regent was to go to the
Speaker 2: stock show and they would let us ride around in
Speaker 2: that stagecoach waving to people, and it was perilous, like
Speaker 2: the state.
Speaker 3: They go really fast and it almost tipped over a
Speaker 3: couple of times.
Speaker 2: But I love going to the stock Show, the rodeo there,
Speaker 2: and my kids loved mutton busting.
Speaker 3: You know that that's.
Speaker 5: They're advertising that at this very event, which is the
Speaker 5: Pike's Peak or bus. Sounds like there's a lot on
Speaker 5: the line rodeo down in the springs, and they mentioned
Speaker 5: what you just said, Mutt.
Speaker 3: It's really fun.
Speaker 2: It's like they keep the little kids on sheep. I
Speaker 2: hope I'm saying that right, and they just hold on
Speaker 2: for dear life and they go racing across until they
Speaker 2: fall off and get trampled.
Speaker 3: Sounds dangerous and a child that I know I will live.
Speaker 3: I will never name names. Was deepants in front of
Speaker 3: the whole by the sheep. Oh no, I know it
Speaker 3: was bad.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I'm headed to d C. I'll be back.
Speaker 3: I'm going to the board meeting for American.
Speaker 2: Conservation Coalition, so we're having a full day board meeting
Speaker 2: on Friday and doing some other meetings while i'm there.
Speaker 2: And then I'm headed to Saint Louis to see my
Speaker 2: father in law, who I love dearly and help him
Speaker 2: with some doctor's appointments.
Speaker 5: So I'll be back on You probably already know this.
Speaker 5: Then you know where you got to go when you.
Speaker 3: Go to Saint Louis Cardinals game.
Speaker 4: No Ted drews oh I love Ted Drew.
Speaker 3: The custard Is.
Speaker 2: It's probably better than the gelato in Italy, which we
Speaker 2: ate so much.
Speaker 4: May I offer another recommendation, Saint Louis. This is where
Speaker 4: my grandfather once lived long ago.
Speaker 2: Pappies, I love pap alright, I'm not telling anything rightist
Speaker 2: to Pappies.
Speaker 4: Every time we say, you know, with GQ and all that.
Speaker 3: Funny about Saint Louis, they all talk about where they
Speaker 3: went to high school.
Speaker 4: They do still.
Speaker 2: Yes, if you meet somebody from Saint Louis, because my
Speaker 2: husband's from there, they say, oh, where'd you go to
Speaker 2: high school? Or they say, oh, I'm I lived in
Speaker 2: so so, I went to Webster Groves.
Speaker 3: And you're like, okay, I don't know anything about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not compute, no.
Speaker 3: No, but it's it's a great town. Saint Louis has
Speaker 3: amazing food.
Speaker 2: Our favorite is a place called Ferrados in rock Hill
Speaker 2: and they have the very thin pizza.
Speaker 4: Now is rock Hill? I don't know if I can
Speaker 4: say this.
Speaker 5: They call it the Hill now and I'm just going
Speaker 5: to say, Yogie Barrows from there and Joe Garagiola Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame Baseball Players it was called. Now this is
Speaker 5: just what it's called tech messenger Daego.
Speaker 3: Hill, Oh jeez, are you are you gonna get candled?
Speaker 5: I think I am. That's what they called it. And
Speaker 5: it was like a bunch of Italian restaurants. And you know,
Speaker 5: I'm a Serb. I'm a little swarthy person, so I
Speaker 5: think I you know, but that's what it was called.
Speaker 4: Are you from the you're with this? Asked Jason about it.
Speaker 3: No, I'll ask Jesus.
Speaker 5: Definitely some Italian restaurants there that you want to They
Speaker 5: just call it the Hill.
Speaker 4: Now that's why I got confused. What hill did you say?
Speaker 1: Rock?
Speaker 4: Hill?
Speaker 3: Rocks the name of the neighborhood Rock.
Speaker 2: It's the neighborhood Webster Groves High School or Brentwood High School.
Speaker 4: I asked Jason about what I mentioned there.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will, I will, Okay, Thanks Ryan, thanks for
Speaker 2: putting up with me. I really appreciate my time with
Speaker 2: you today. We had a lot of great conversation and
Speaker 2: have a wonderful week you as well.