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<v Speaker 1>Not only does the government sometimes stick its nose into

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<v Speaker 1>the classroom and try and inject things that are counterproductive

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<v Speaker 1>to a child's education, like religion, for example, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they just flat out don't want to see people getting along,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of strange, but in Idaho that seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be the case, and my colleagues are here to

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<v Speaker 1>take it away for us.

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<v Speaker 2>A wes say To school district teacher was asked to

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<v Speaker 2>remove classroom science promoting exclusivity, igniting controversy over free expression

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<v Speaker 2>and the role of personal values and education. The sign,

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<v Speaker 2>which emphasized messages of acceptance and diversity, reportedly conflicted with

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<v Speaker 2>district policies, prompting pushback from both community members and advocacy groups.

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<v Speaker 2>Supporters argue that such messages foster a safe and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>environment for students, our credits claim they could be seen

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<v Speaker 2>as political statements. The incidents fueled ongoing debates about teachers, right,

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<v Speaker 2>school policies, and the boundaries of classroom expression. As sentience rise,

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<v Speaker 2>the district faces increases scrutiny over how it bounces inclusivity

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<v Speaker 2>maintaining a neutral educational space. And this story is brought

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<v Speaker 2>to you by somebody that I don't remember, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hoping AJ can help you with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, it was the Idaho Education News by Idaho News

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<v Speaker 3>on March thirteen, five.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm sure even though it was by Idaho News,

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<v Speaker 1>a person somewaey I wrote it. But I'll tell you this,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot who was introducing this, so I just said

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<v Speaker 1>my colleagues are here to take it away. AJ. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure which one of you was grabbing that, so

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for coming in, but I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, I have the article here and it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like it was written by a Sarah in Inama. So

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<v Speaker 1>there we have come full circle. We've all helped each

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<v Speaker 1>other and we've got the full story now. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know there is a school.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, quick correction. I think that is actually the

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<v Speaker 3>name of the teacher, right, you're.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. Oh you are right. Wow, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got the teacher. We've got everything wrong tonight. Yeah, Carly

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<v Speaker 1>Flandro Carly. You know, I'm gonna send Carly an email

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, hey, I am so sorry that we

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<v Speaker 1>butchered this article. But it was a great article and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you enjoy this. I hope you enjoy this

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<v Speaker 1>show about it? Now? Can we move on?

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<v Speaker 2>Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we move on?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, this teacher is trying to create a positive environment.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, if we consider the article we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about last night, right, that that had to do

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<v Speaker 1>with children not receiving food, alluding to the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>children actually learn better when they're more well fed, when

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<v Speaker 1>they know where their next meal is coming from, where

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<v Speaker 1>there's not food insecurity, where they're in an environment that

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<v Speaker 1>is reliable to them. Well, we see a teacher doing

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing, but trying to promote inclusivity in the classroom,

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<v Speaker 1>showing posters that says everyone's welcome here, showing signs of

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<v Speaker 1>different colored hands, different sizes, all coming together, right, promoting

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<v Speaker 1>unity in a classroom. I don't think that there is

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<v Speaker 1>anything wrong with that. That certainly does it detract from

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<v Speaker 1>the learning environment, as the policy of the school district

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<v Speaker 1>would have you believe. So I'm confused as to what

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<v Speaker 1>the message is here. And aj I thought you might

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk a little bit about the confusing messaging.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was confused too, you know, like who knew

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<v Speaker 3>that a little piece of paper on the wall and

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<v Speaker 3>the classrooms somewhere in IDAHOL could cost such as stir.

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<v Speaker 3>It even got the attention of national news outlets. But

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<v Speaker 3>what I don't understand is the district's policy. It says that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it encourages staff to display the American flag, banners, posters, signs,

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<v Speaker 3>or photos, but they need to be quote content neutral

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<v Speaker 3>and conducive to a positive learning environment, respect the dignity

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<v Speaker 3>of others, acknowledged devices of others to express different opinions,

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<v Speaker 3>and foster and defend intellectual honesty, freedom of inquiry and instruction,

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<v Speaker 3>and freedom of speech and association. Now, the IDOHO Code

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<v Speaker 3>also says that students should not be taught any sex, race, ethnicity, religion, color,

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<v Speaker 3>or national origin is inherently superior or inferior, or that

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<v Speaker 3>individuals should be treated adversely due to any of those qualities.

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<v Speaker 3>But that part is what confuses me, because they are

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<v Speaker 3>supposedly advocating for equality and inclusivity by saying that everyone

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<v Speaker 3>should be treated equally, And isn't that exactly what the

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<v Speaker 3>sign is saying. Design is saying everyone is welcome, So

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<v Speaker 3>what is the problem. It fits with what they want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's certainly no race or creed or culture being

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<v Speaker 1>promoted as being better than the other. Right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that that would be conducive to a positive

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<v Speaker 1>learning environment where somebody might not feel othered. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>in states like Oklahoma and Louisiana who have mandated the

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<v Speaker 1>Ten Commandments or the reading of the Bible being in

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<v Speaker 1>every classroom. Right, would a Hindu student feel accepted there?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not? Would a Muslim? Would a Would a dark

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<v Speaker 1>skinned person in this group of largely white students feel

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<v Speaker 1>feel at home in an environment like this? I would

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<v Speaker 1>say no. But over here in Idaho, we have a teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Inama, who makes it clear that everybody's welcome here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that does create a conducive environment. But

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<v Speaker 1>the school points to the guidelines, right, the rules, the

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<v Speaker 1>the the policy that is in black and white. But

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<v Speaker 1>what is really important here is what Sarah Enama is

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<v Speaker 1>being told behind the scenes, and that is, quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is welcome here is not something that everybody actually believes, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the school district didn't reference that thought process,

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<v Speaker 1>did they? And so infidel I wanted to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you thoughts on that everyone is welcome here

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<v Speaker 1>being something you know that's not acceptable?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jimmy, I I like both of you. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a little puzzled on how everyone is welcome here as

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<v Speaker 2>a controversial statements, and it did make me wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>that is somehow an issue. Does that mean that they

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<v Speaker 2>actually don't want everyone to feel well? And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking those two polar opposites, you know, if they're both unacceptable,

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<v Speaker 2>because I would surely hope that if it said everyone

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<v Speaker 2>is not welcome here they object to that, because I

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<v Speaker 2>could see that being a problem. But that sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing there are good side people on both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Argument to me, but these aren't comparable. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>one side wants to exclude people and the other side says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we can all work together, I think it should be

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<v Speaker 2>rather simple to understand that this isn't a matter of well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just going to kind of meet in the middle. No,

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<v Speaker 2>because in a school our environments like this, one's right

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<v Speaker 2>and one's wrong. You know, someone reminds me of the

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<v Speaker 2>question of what do you call nine people at a

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<v Speaker 2>dinner party with a Nazi? You have a group of

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<v Speaker 2>ten Nazis had a dinner party, And that's really what

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking at here, because either you're saying the other

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<v Speaker 2>side has a point, but no, excluding people. No, it's

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<v Speaker 2>difficult or impossible for me to ever accept that the

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<v Speaker 2>side that wants to exclude people has a point. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's one of those hills I'm willing to

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<v Speaker 2>die on. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think that there is a racist

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<v Speaker 1>wave in this country that's reemerging. It's encouraging racists at

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<v Speaker 1>all levels to follow suit. The racists in the school

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<v Speaker 1>district that have been quiet for so long and just

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<v Speaker 1>accepted that society is ready to move on. Well now

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<v Speaker 1>they are, as we've heard so many times this past

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<v Speaker 1>political season, saying the quiet parts out loud, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>telling that to Sarah Nama, right, And they're saying it

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<v Speaker 1>basically through their actions by taking down signs that promote

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<v Speaker 1>the comfort and the overall health and well being of

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<v Speaker 1>every student in the classroom. And I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>teacher should be applauded. You know, Aj, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you have some thoughts on the kind of support that

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<v Speaker 1>the teacher deserves, and I thought you might want to

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<v Speaker 1>expand on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to mention quickly that in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>the state actually banned critical race theory in public schools classrooms.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, they're definitely they have some racist undertones there.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, this teacher completely deserves the attention that she's getting,

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<v Speaker 3>but in a good way because she hasn't backed down

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<v Speaker 3>from her belief. She didn't allow the district to push

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<v Speaker 3>her around. And the best part is that despite the

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<v Speaker 3>district asking for design to be taken down, she has

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<v Speaker 3>received a massive amount of support from you know, she's

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<v Speaker 3>been getting emails with supported notes that local communities standing

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<v Speaker 3>with her parents, are standing by her. Students at the

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<v Speaker 3>Renaissance High School actually did a wldout protest in support

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<v Speaker 3>of mister Cinema. They were holding signs with messages like

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<v Speaker 3>loving is including equality is not political, And I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is exactly how change is effected. You speak up,

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<v Speaker 3>get out there, you stand up, the walkout, whatever you

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<v Speaker 3>need to do, raise awareness of the issue, and you

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<v Speaker 3>find people who are willing to do those things with

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<v Speaker 3>you in order to benefit that to get you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with that effort.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, when you cannot rely on the court or

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<v Speaker 1>just sound law and order, you have to rely on

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<v Speaker 1>the court of public opinion. And that again is being

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<v Speaker 1>exemplified by all the support over seventy organizations have voiced

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<v Speaker 1>their support, have shown the signs that the teacher is

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<v Speaker 1>being asked to take down on their own media outlets,

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<v Speaker 1>one being the Wasmuth Center for Human Rights. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a whole lot of other organizations in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Boise with Kids, full Swing, Boise, Guru, Babe Vote, not

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<v Speaker 1>really sure who they are, Habitat for Humanity is supporting

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<v Speaker 1>this teacher. So you know, I think she's doing good work.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to you have to speak up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when the quiet parts are being said out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to say the loud part louder, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's a really good analogy, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think for me, the loud part is

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious unity, the inclusivity, the healthy learning environment for

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<v Speaker 1>the next generation of people who are going to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of our species. And so you know, on that note,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, this is a really good,

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<v Speaker 1>well written article there are.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye So no, I was gonna say, I noticed the

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<v Speaker 3>other sign that she had. I think that the reason

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<v Speaker 3>they probably targeted that sign was because it was colored

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<v Speaker 3>in rainbow colors, because the messaging was a something completely neutral.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said in this room. Everyone is welcome, everyone's important,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's accepted, respected, encourage, valued.

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<v Speaker 1>And equal.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, how can anyone see that as a negative thing?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking that they just sound the rainbow and they're

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<v Speaker 3>are like, oh, jermy qbobo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Well you can interpret anything for it to

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<v Speaker 1>mean what you want. I mean, unfortunately, and this hurts,

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<v Speaker 1>but the American flag is kind of seen as like

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<v Speaker 1>a racist symbol for a lot of people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is flown in this classroom, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that. But there are elements of racism in America,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and some people look at the American flag

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<v Speaker 1>and that's all they see. You know. There are many

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<v Speaker 1>people that don't interpret the American flag that way. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think it just goes to show you that

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<v Speaker 1>this blanket term content neutral, he doesn't really mean anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, infidel, What does content neutral mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, as far as what content neutral means

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<v Speaker 2>in this context, sounds like it means let's enable the

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<v Speaker 2>worst people in our society at the benefit at the

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<v Speaker 2>cost of being inclusive, you know I and you know

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<v Speaker 2>this is something I'm not proud of. But in my

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<v Speaker 2>early twenties, you know, I was a delegate to two

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<v Speaker 2>state conventions for a former clansman who was running for

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<v Speaker 2>state office. I was involved in three of three campaigns,

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<v Speaker 2>two very actively. So coming from that background and looking

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<v Speaker 2>at what people get away with now, we would never

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<v Speaker 2>have said many of these things then, and to think

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<v Speaker 2>that now we've shifted so far, and I think part

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<v Speaker 2>of this is simply through silence, and which is I

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<v Speaker 2>think a very good point to your We need to

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<v Speaker 2>push back and say it louder because because of our

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<v Speaker 2>discomfort in addressing these things, we've allowed this problem to

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<v Speaker 2>fester and grow to the point where just saying hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's cool, everyone's welcome here is problematic. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>beyond problematic because that's how we get to the problems

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<v Speaker 2>where the othering of people just continues to build and

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<v Speaker 2>grow and become worse and worse. So as far as

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<v Speaker 2>this current situation here, I think that all three of

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<v Speaker 2>us have touched on the only solution that I know of.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't give an inch, haul it out and push back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think to AJ's point, you know where

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<v Speaker 1>I was going is you look at different colors and

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<v Speaker 1>you see a rainbow, and you automatically think something. But really,

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<v Speaker 1>all that's saying is everybody's different, right, Those colors represent

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<v Speaker 1>different things. We've been so programmed to think that a

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<v Speaker 1>rainbow can only mean gay stuff, trance stuff, LGBTQ, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fine. I mean I would have if I were

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<v Speaker 1>a teacher, I'd have no problem with that in my classroom.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'd also have no problem with just a rainbow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And it looks like this content neutral term

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<v Speaker 1>is just vague enough that people could just take it

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<v Speaker 1>and use it as a weapon whenever they want to,

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<v Speaker 1>when in reality, all we're trying to do is just

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<v Speaker 1>get through our day with a little bit of happiness.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, maybe if they had a birthname black and

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<v Speaker 3>white sign from the nineteen fifties, nobody want to complain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Only let white kids and black

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<v Speaker 1>kids use different water fountains. You know, that's neutral. We're

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<v Speaker 1>neutral on water fountains, right. It's really sad. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they say the pendulum swings back and forth, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope the pendulum swings in the other direction sooner than later.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going to do it for us this week, folks,

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