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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the Great America and welcome with glorious Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon the tri State. The weather should break, we're told

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<v Speaker 1>by Channel nine sometime the next day or two Saturdays

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<v Speaker 1>should be nicer. I was in Anderson Township last night.

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<v Speaker 1>It rained like crazy for two hours, as hard as

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<v Speaker 1>it can rain, and where I lived got absolutely no rain,

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<v Speaker 1>but a little bit unusual. Reds Baseball first pitch tonight

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<v Speaker 1>is five ten, getting it over quickly. I assume, like

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<v Speaker 1>last night's game, Thomas Rhett, it's the big concert. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sir Franklin Rose. Franklerose is a big fan of Thomas Rhett.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Secretary of State, frank Larrose, have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard of Thomas Rhett?

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<v Speaker 2>Heard of him? My taste is a little bit older

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's going to rock and roll with you, to

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<v Speaker 1>pull It's a great country artist. Tonight after the game

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<v Speaker 1>and the Reds play the Oakland A's hopefully better than

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<v Speaker 1>the last two nights. First of all, talk about where

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<v Speaker 1>we are in voting. I saw online that your office

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<v Speaker 1>had found literally thousands and thousands of illegals that were

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<v Speaker 1>registered to vote, which, of course never happens. Everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>registered to vote is completely legitimate. I dare you to

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<v Speaker 1>question anyone's illegalities when it come to voting. But what

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<v Speaker 1>did you find out, Secretary of State Frank LeRose, give

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<v Speaker 1>me a full report.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we do take it seriously that only US

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<v Speaker 2>citizens should be allowed to participate in American elections. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's what the Ohio Constitution requires, it's what state and

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<v Speaker 2>federal law says, and so, yeah, we go through those checks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a multi layer process and it's harder than it

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<v Speaker 2>should be because the federal government doesn't help us much

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<v Speaker 2>with the databases that they have. They limit our access

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<v Speaker 2>to those, but we use all the tools at our disposal.

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<v Speaker 2>We go through the voter rules and we identified not thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>but several hundred non citizens who were registered to vote,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have worked to remove them from the voter

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<v Speaker 2>rules and also refer them forst because when you register

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<v Speaker 2>to vote and you're not a US citizen, you violate

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<v Speaker 2>the law. And we want people to know that if

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<v Speaker 2>you mess around, you'll find out. Don't think that you

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<v Speaker 2>can get away with registering to vote in Ohio as

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<v Speaker 2>a non citizen. We will catch you and you will

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<v Speaker 2>face justice for it.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, to the state of Texas, the number is

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<v Speaker 1>well north of one hundred thousand, might be as much

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<v Speaker 1>as a million illegals registered to vote, and now the

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<v Speaker 1>ACLU issuing the Attorney General in Texas for taking them

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<v Speaker 1>off their roles. In the state of Ohio, how does

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<v Speaker 1>a non citizen actually register to vote? How's that possible?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it can happen a variety of different ways, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>really by no fault of their own. And I'll explain

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<v Speaker 2>that when you go into a driver's license office to

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<v Speaker 2>get your driver's license, to state BMV deputy register our office,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll sometimes hand you a voter registration form. We have

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<v Speaker 2>found in some cases that non citizens, particularly with limited

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<v Speaker 2>English proficiency, and of course they're here on legal status

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<v Speaker 2>into get a driver's license, maybe they've got to work

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<v Speaker 2>visa or a student visa or whatever else, they'll fill

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<v Speaker 2>that voter registration form out. Because when a government employee

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<v Speaker 2>hands you a form, if you're grew up in a

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<v Speaker 2>foreign country, you fill that thing out and they'll check

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<v Speaker 2>the box that says, no, I am not a US

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<v Speaker 2>citizen at about it. So really they've done nothing wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>They filled the form out, honestly, But because of a

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<v Speaker 2>data entry error by the team at the Board of Elections.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they didn't look at it close enough and see

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<v Speaker 2>that box that said no, I am not a citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where you end up with a small percentage again,

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<v Speaker 2>couple hundred out of eight million registered voters. Or in

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<v Speaker 2>some cases it could be intentional, someone is actually trying

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<v Speaker 2>to register to vote as a non citizen. Either way,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a violation of the law. We give them a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to fix it themselves. We send them a letter

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<v Speaker 2>in the mail that says, according to our records, you

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<v Speaker 2>are a non citizen and registered to vote. If that's true,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to give you thirty days to withdraw your registration.

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<v Speaker 2>If they don't take advantage of that, then yes, we

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<v Speaker 2>remove them ourselves and we refer them for prosecution. You

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned the ACLU and all of the allied liberal organizations.

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<v Speaker 2>They always rush to the courthouse this time of year

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<v Speaker 2>to try to change the way elections are run, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's happening to me as well. It wouldn't surprise me

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<v Speaker 2>if they come and sue us as it relates to

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<v Speaker 2>removing non citizens from the voter roles. But currently we're

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<v Speaker 2>facing lawsuits from groups that don't want me to enforce

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<v Speaker 2>a whole variety of Ohio's election integrity laws, including, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, our ban on foreign nationals funding elections. I've

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<v Speaker 2>of course upheld that law, and there's a group that's

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<v Speaker 2>suing me. We're actually expecting a decision in that case

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<v Speaker 2>anytime now.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as what's happening in other states, you're very

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<v Speaker 1>active with the other forty nine secretaries of state. When

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<v Speaker 1>I talk to individuals in Nevada or Texas, they tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that when you get your driver's license, don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be a citizen to get a driver's license, that

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<v Speaker 1>you're automatically registered to vote in Nevada. When I have

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<v Speaker 1>on Tony Bender's good friend Wayne Allen Root, he tells

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<v Speaker 1>me there's literally tens of thousands of Nevada AND's who

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<v Speaker 1>are registered to vote because they have a driver's license.

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<v Speaker 1>If you check a form whether you're a citizen or not,

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<v Speaker 1>but no one pays attention there whether you're a citizen

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<v Speaker 1>or not, you get the ballot in the mail. So,

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<v Speaker 1>assuming you're in Ohio and a non citizen gets a

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<v Speaker 1>ballot in the mail, I think you're sending out real

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<v Speaker 1>soon an application to get an absentee ballot for no

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<v Speaker 1>reason at all. You can outdo that. Why is it

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<v Speaker 1>not a crime if someone checks the box one way

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<v Speaker 1>or another or makes a mistake and they actually vote.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to me there ought to be some cross

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<v Speaker 1>reference with all kinds of databases from all the Secretaries

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<v Speaker 1>of States in the federal government. It could happen very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you say the Feds aren't helping you, can

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<v Speaker 1>you be more specific as to why Joe Biden, Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>Harris doesn't help you. What is it they could do

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't do well.

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<v Speaker 2>You hit a couple things here. First of all, Ohio's

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<v Speaker 2>example to the rest of the country. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm going to testify in Congress next week. They've

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<v Speaker 2>asked me to come and testify. There's a reason why

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<v Speaker 2>I was elected by my peers to be the chairman

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<v Speaker 2>of the Republican Secretary's of State Committee. Nationally. I spoke

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<v Speaker 2>at the Republican Lawyers Association just a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 2>ago about election integrity. The rest of the country views

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio as an example of how to do this right.

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<v Speaker 2>You talked about driver's licenses in other states where they

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<v Speaker 2>have automatic voter registration. That's problematic. We don't have automatic

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<v Speaker 2>voter registration in Ohio. And what we do have is

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<v Speaker 2>a great relationship with our Bureau of Motor Vehicles. The

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<v Speaker 2>team over there works very well with us. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>they're one of the best tools we have to find

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<v Speaker 2>out who's a citizen and who's not. Because when you

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<v Speaker 2>get a driver's license in Ohio, and to be clear,

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<v Speaker 2>you must have legal status to get you are If

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<v Speaker 2>you are an illegal alien, you cannot get a driver's

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<v Speaker 2>license at Ohio. But when you go to get a

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<v Speaker 2>driver's license, you have to prove your status. You're either

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<v Speaker 2>most of us don't remember when we got our first

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<v Speaker 2>driver's license back at sixteen years old, but you have

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<v Speaker 2>to bring your birth certificate when you do that right

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<v Speaker 2>to prove identity, or if you are here on a

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<v Speaker 2>student visa or on a work visa, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>prove your legal status. So the Ohio Bureau Votor Vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>knows without a doubt who's a citizen and who's not,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're one of the best tools we have. The

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<v Speaker 2>federal government has access to other databases, and as I

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<v Speaker 2>was mentioning, they're not forthcoming with those they charge us fees,

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<v Speaker 2>they make it very difficult for us to access those databases.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, right now, I am considering legal action against

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<v Speaker 2>the Biden administration because there are three databases that the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Homeland Security is supposed to give us access to.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been asking for access to those databases and

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<v Speaker 2>they have thus far not granted that because we need

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<v Speaker 2>all the tools that we can have to detect and

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<v Speaker 2>remove non citizens from the voter rules to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that Ohio remains the gold standard for election integrity.

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<v Speaker 1>And almost makes you think the Biden administration wants illegals

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<v Speaker 1>to vote. Now, other states have different state laws, So

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<v Speaker 1>if the state law is different in Arizona, California, and Nevada,

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<v Speaker 1>if the state law there is different, you would then

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<v Speaker 1>have thousands of legal voting unless you have an aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>secretary of state. Is that fair to say?

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<v Speaker 2>It's potentially that case. And this is why it's so

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<v Speaker 2>important that people attention to Secretary of State raises and

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<v Speaker 2>why it's so good that Ohio has chosen a conservative

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<v Speaker 2>who's actually going to enforce the law. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>my team does each and every day. Election integrity matters

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, this is something that I think Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>and Democrats want us to do to uphold the law.

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<v Speaker 2>If you dive into the cesspool of social media from

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<v Speaker 2>time to time, you will see all kinds of leftists

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<v Speaker 2>insulting me for taking dead people off the voter rules,

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<v Speaker 2>for taking non citizens off the voter roles. They say

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm suppressing the vote and other things. Couldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>the furthest from the truth. What we're actually doing. We're

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<v Speaker 2>increasing voter participation because people want to participate in an

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<v Speaker 2>election that they know is honest, and if they think

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<v Speaker 2>the election's not honest, they're more likely to skip it. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Secondly, what about Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Is he on

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<v Speaker 1>the ballot in Ohio and the fact that he said

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna accept he's not gonna win anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to be off the ballot. Is RFK Junior

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<v Speaker 1>on the ballot in the state of.

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio, he will not be. He did qualify for the ballot,

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<v Speaker 2>he got the right number of signatures, but I actually

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<v Speaker 2>got a letter from him last week saying I wish

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<v Speaker 2>to have my name removed from the ballot. He got

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<v Speaker 2>that to us in time to do so. And so

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<v Speaker 2>when we start printing out ballots, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>we start sending out absentee ballots to our overseas and

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<v Speaker 2>military personnel in just a.

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<v Speaker 1>Couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>So people are going to start voting here very soon,

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<v Speaker 2>and his name will not be on the ballot in Ohado.

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<v Speaker 1>Does this endorsement if Trump mean anything? Then legally in

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Ohio, I would assume nothing except for

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<v Speaker 1>political purposes. If someone might be persuaded who was a

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy voter to vote for Trump, but legally there will

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<v Speaker 1>be no Kennedy on the ballot. Now, Tony Bender has

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<v Speaker 1>a question. What if Tony Bender's unhappy with Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>he's unhappy with Biden and wants to write in someone's name.

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<v Speaker 1>He's thinking about writing my name in uh Is that legal?

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a right in can you put someone

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<v Speaker 1>in there? And will that be counted?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a common misconception, and we get this every year

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<v Speaker 2>where people write in all kinds of names. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>if you ever do decide to run for president, let

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<v Speaker 2>me know I'll be the first one there to endorse you. Though.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if you're not a certified right in candidate,

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<v Speaker 2>that vote does not count. So what that means is

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<v Speaker 2>you actually have to be a certified right in candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>These are people that generally missed the deadline to get

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<v Speaker 2>their name on or whatever else. Nobody's ever had a

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<v Speaker 2>chance of winning as a right in for president. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the local level, for a city council race or

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<v Speaker 2>school board race, sometimes right ends are successful. But you

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<v Speaker 2>have to be a certified right in candidate. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>just a voter. Can't just write in any old random

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<v Speaker 1>Now there goes my electoral hopes. But how do you

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<v Speaker 1>become a certified ride in? What do you got to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Become certified? If I want to become a certified right in,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a process where you have to submit some

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<v Speaker 2>information to usually the county Board of Elections if you're

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<v Speaker 1>So, in other words, it's quite a Joe Deeters. A

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago, we had a right in election for

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago because the prosecutor in charge left off

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<v Speaker 1>Deeters Hamilton County won the prosecutor's office on a right

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<v Speaker 1>in What are the odds of that happening? He won? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you heard about what that says?

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<v Speaker 2>Something about theaters, that says something about his name, I

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<v Speaker 2>d in campaigning. Now, if you have like a four

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<v Speaker 1>Though, now so illegals, you're on it. RFK Jr. Was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be on the ballot. He took his name off.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be on the ballot in several states

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<v Speaker 1>because the secretaries of states in those states did not

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<v Speaker 1>have the authority to take him off the ballot once

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<v Speaker 1>he's qualified. But you're saying, Ohio, he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on five or six state ballots when Kennedy does want

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the state ballot, but they had a

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<v Speaker 1>not one of those states. Now, lastly, you told me

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<v Speaker 1>off the air. You've been back like two or three

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<v Speaker 1>days from army training. Explain what you've been doing the

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<v Speaker 1>past two or three weeks. You were in the South

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I was actually down at what's now called

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<v Speaker 2>Fort Liberty, North Carolina, used to be Fort Bragg. I

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<v Speaker 2>an East seven, which is a sergeant first class, and

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<v Speaker 2>Special Warfare Center, which is where Green Berets go for

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of thing. And I'm happy to say, at

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<v Speaker 2>forty five years old, I can still keep up with

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're called up, what does that mean? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that means the country's invaded or what do we do?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this could be an ugly situation. Look what's

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Again, as a Green Beret and as a member

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<v Speaker 2>of a special Forces unit, I do get quite a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of flexibility with that, I generally work with my

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<v Speaker 2>training schedule because they understand that I also have a

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility to the citizens of Ohio. So there have been

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<v Speaker 2>a number of members of Congress, even members of the

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<v Speaker 2>US Senate over the years, statewide office holders who are

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<v Speaker 2>also reservists. Thankfully, the Defense Department understands that you have

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<v Speaker 2>to balance your military obligation with your civilian obligations and

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<v Speaker 2>in this case, my official responsibilities to the people of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>So they give me some flexibility, but I get in

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<v Speaker 2>the number of weeks I need every year, usually by

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<v Speaker 2>helping support my unit with training and other things that

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing. Listen, if something happened to my nation needed me,

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<v Speaker 2>I would probably serve. And I've served in combat before

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<v Speaker 2>on a number of occasions and wouldn't shy away from

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, what's the status of reapportionment? There's a ballot issue

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<v Speaker 1>that was going to be on the ballot in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>I think some of the language language was different, as

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<v Speaker 1>we sider at the end of August. What's the status

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<v Speaker 1>of reapportionment? The districts being on the ballot this November.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that going to happen or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So there is what is now called Issue one,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a I would consider it a left wing

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<v Speaker 2>We wrote a truthful and honest assessment of what that

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen thousand words long. This amendment, this very complex Rube

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<v Speaker 2>Goldberg device that they're trying to build here for redistricting

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<v Speaker 2>is thirteen thousand words long. That's an amendment to the

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio Constitution. The entire US Constitution is seven thousand, five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred words long. And so yes, we had to we

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<v Speaker 2>use ten bullet points to kind of explain what this does.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being sued by a group of leftists now that

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<v Speaker 2>are upset about how truthful our language was. That's going

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be up to them to decide if

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<v Speaker 2>Ohioans get to make. This November, if they want to

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<v Speaker 2>put a bunch of unaccountable individuals in charge of essentially

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<v Speaker 2>requiring them to jerrymander the state to accomplish a predetermined

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<v Speaker 1>So someone in the ballot box would have to stand

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<v Speaker 1>there and read thirteen thousand words to and then try

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<v Speaker 1>to understand what they're saying before they vote. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>kidding me? How does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Well, and that's why we write the summary language

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<v Speaker 2>wrote was ten bullet points. That's what will appear on

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<v Speaker 2>the ballot that was voted on and approved by the

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio Ballot Board. It's now being there's a lawsuit to

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<v Speaker 2>test whether that is is going to stand or not,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to read all thirteen thousand words, it will

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<v Speaker 2>be posted at your voting location. Great, I encourage you

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<v Speaker 2>to step out of line because it's going to take

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<v Speaker 2>you half an hour to read all of that. You

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<v Speaker 2>publish it on our website, publish it in the newspapers,

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<v Speaker 2>with just as a boon for the newspapers. But the

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<v Speaker 2>law requires us to publish that long ballot the constitutional

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<v Speaker 2>amendment language three times in newspapers of general circulation, that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, so Ohian's had the chance to educate

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<v Speaker 2>themselves on it. It's a very complex amendment and and I,

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<v Speaker 2>for one, I'm opposing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I oppose it also it is kind of stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of bunch of academics and others take the

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<v Speaker 1>place of voters who decide who the officeholders are to

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<v Speaker 1>make these decisions. Once again, Frank Lerosa, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>your service, and we'll see what happens down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>But once again, thank you for coming on the Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Frank, see you back in the

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<v Speaker 2>Queen City soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care, God bless America. Les continue with more, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's my endorsement as a writing candidate for the presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Leroe stands with the great American. Let's continue with more.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WLW