Speaker 1: But Justin Worsham has joined us. We talk about parenting things.
Speaker 2: Human populations need two point seven children per woman, yep
Speaker 2: to reliably avoid extinction.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna need you to pull your weight, Shannon.
Speaker 1: We need you to get it together. Tony Helper, Tony. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they they're talking about that.
Speaker 3: If we don't maintain an average birth rate per woman
Speaker 3: on the planet of two point seven children, then uh,
Speaker 3: then they're in the long term that could leave to
Speaker 3: an extinction of the species. In the more short term,
Speaker 3: what they're seeing a lot of is that family lines,
Speaker 3: which I love that they put it on like we're
Speaker 3: all royalty, like we care.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, anybody here like I am.
Speaker 1: I listen. I love my father, my grandfather, love all
Speaker 1: of them. But if I was the.
Speaker 4: End of the worship, do not need this line to continue?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that.
Speaker 4: Just continue this.
Speaker 3: We're bringing what do we bring it to the genetic
Speaker 3: pool realistically? I mean, I know I'm a good time,
Speaker 3: but I'm bringing a lot of high cholesterol, a lot
Speaker 3: of diabetes.
Speaker 1: I got near sighted, a stigmatism. The preacher Gray like,
Speaker 1: we don't need that in the gene pool. And you're
Speaker 1: the sperm that won. I was one on the top.
Speaker 3: Of the line as far as my father was bringing
Speaker 3: to the table back in nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 5: Garry said that to me recently and it was eye opening.
Speaker 5: He's like, well, you at least one one race, And
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, my god, is it?
Speaker 3: The first race came in first, and then it's just
Speaker 3: a series of seconds and fourth after that.
Speaker 1: God. The other thing that I.
Speaker 3: Thought was interesting is that they what do they say,
Speaker 3: more so already we have more females than males and
Speaker 3: they believe they're not good. Yeah, they've known for a
Speaker 3: long time that they think that that is supposed to
Speaker 3: account for just unknown things, that having more women on
Speaker 3: the planet leads to obviously more people being made right,
Speaker 3: and so that there's some kind of evolutionary trend that
Speaker 3: does that. I also started looking at just kind of
Speaker 3: other data that I thought was interesting about birth rates,
Speaker 3: and it said trends in completed family size vary slightly
Speaker 3: by educational tainments. So this is from a study in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two that found that in nineteen eighty, women
Speaker 3: aged forty to forty four with a bachelor's degree or
Speaker 3: more had the lowest birth rate at two point two children,
Speaker 3: and women with a high school degree or less had
Speaker 3: the highest at three point one to nine children, and
Speaker 3: that the same order persisted in twenty twenty two with
Speaker 3: a narrow range. So in twenty twenty two, women with
Speaker 3: a bachelor's degree had one point seven children, and high
Speaker 3: school degree or less have two point one point four, which,
Speaker 3: with all due respect to anybody, I have some college
Speaker 3: I put on my application, so I would lump myself
Speaker 3: into this. This seems to be we are trending towards
Speaker 3: an idiocracy type situation where their whole premise of that
Speaker 3: movie was that people who should not be having children
Speaker 3: were the ones were having more children.
Speaker 4: Was such a prescient film? Was it two thousand and five?
Speaker 1: I don't remember, to be honest.
Speaker 3: Macau and Hong Kong have the lowest fertility rates as
Speaker 3: of this year in world, at point sixty nine and
Speaker 3: point seventy four, respectfully, and Chad, which is a country
Speaker 3: in northern Central Africa, has the highest at five point
Speaker 3: nine four children per woman.
Speaker 1: WHOA, yeah, they average six kids per wow. Yeah. Somalia
Speaker 1: is at five point nine to one.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: Well, how many people do you know.
Speaker 3: That are like I'm not, I mean other than Chanlan, like,
Speaker 3: do you feel like I feel like there's more people
Speaker 3: that are not having kids.
Speaker 4: I have more friends now that aren't having kids.
Speaker 2: Well, and here's the thing. My kids have said they
Speaker 2: don't know about having kids, yeah, which is like, well,
Speaker 2: I thought you guys were kind of fun, Like I
Speaker 2: had a fun time. Why would you not want to
Speaker 2: have kids.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of pressure, like to put on yourself
Speaker 3: to think that you made me turn them off?
Speaker 1: Like I saw what it did to you guys.
Speaker 4: Think there's a lot of I don't want to money.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's environment, environment.
Speaker 4: It's it's bringing the kids into what world or the
Speaker 4: whole bit.
Speaker 2: And I don't and I don't ever remember. I don't
Speaker 2: remember having those thoughts in my head about it now.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: why grant different world different times.
Speaker 5: I feel like the Internet ruined all of that because
Speaker 5: it opened our eyes to so much more, so much
Speaker 5: more period to be afraid of, to be afraid of.
Speaker 5: And it's just overwhelming, really, is what it is. It
Speaker 5: was so much simpler when it was just your family
Speaker 5: and your friends and that was the unit, and people
Speaker 5: had kids and that was it, and your purview was
Speaker 5: your world around you really, and then you go to college,
Speaker 5: you meet some new people and then their their world
Speaker 5: opened you up to their world. Now the whole world
Speaker 5: is right in your pocket and it's overwhelming.
Speaker 2: Well, if you do plan to have kids, we have
Speaker 2: a new rule of effective parenting in this seven seven
Speaker 2: seven rules.
Speaker 1: I like this, but it's exciting.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's also common sense. Okay, how happy
Speaker 5: summer is making me? Right?
Speaker 1: It's not so?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's beautiful, feels like summer because you've had a
Speaker 4: week and a half of just glorious.
Speaker 1: Do you like? Get her out of a box?
Speaker 3: Like she's acting like she didn't see before ten am today,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was all overcast a cloudy like it's been.
Speaker 2: The past few days. It was, But I mean she
Speaker 2: is very excited now, look at her face.
Speaker 1: I continue to talk about it, she's not.
Speaker 2: She can't hear us tending just to my left, Gary
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Speaker 1: Justin Warsham has joined us.
Speaker 2: When we're talking parenting, the seven seven seven rule of
Speaker 2: effective parenting.
Speaker 3: Now, I did a parenting podcast for probably what I
Speaker 3: want to say, at least seven years, somewhere in.
Speaker 1: That range, maybe longer. Actually might have been ten. And
Speaker 1: I've never come.
Speaker 3: Across this rule, but it definitely parallels a lot of
Speaker 3: the advice I would get from like child development specialists
Speaker 3: and pediatricians, people that I talked to on the show
Speaker 3: just parenting, you know, authors, and so it is a
Speaker 3: seven to seven seven rules, so it breaks down the
Speaker 3: different kind of generations of a childhood. So the first
Speaker 3: zero to seven years, the focus as a parent is
Speaker 3: on play, so your kids learn through having fun activities
Speaker 3: and interaction. And then from seven to fourteen is where
Speaker 3: it's more about teaching them lessons, So your interactions become
Speaker 3: more like coaching, and a lot of you know, can
Speaker 3: the way they I want to say lecture, but I'm
Speaker 3: sure that's not what kids want to hear, but I
Speaker 3: definitely know that's what I'm guilty of. And then from
Speaker 3: fourteen to twenty one, it becomes guiding where it's like
Speaker 3: and that's I feel like, even though my younger one
Speaker 3: is he'll be fourteen in the next month, but I've
Speaker 3: seen that transition where it's like when they become teenagers,
Speaker 3: you have to start, and it's hard, but you have
Speaker 3: to start letting them do their own thing and kind
Speaker 3: of fail while they still have the safety net of
Speaker 3: home and hopefully you can just you point them. I
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time going this is the direction
Speaker 3: I would go if I was you and your brain
Speaker 3: is telling you not to listen to.
Speaker 1: And you want to go one n y way.
Speaker 3: And I was talking to my buddy yesterday about this,
Speaker 3: where I said, I go the thing my dad said
Speaker 3: to me when I was like ten, He goes I said, like,
Speaker 3: I love you, and he goes, well, in a couple
Speaker 3: of years, you're gonna hate me. You're gonna think I'm
Speaker 3: an idiot and that you know everything, and we're gonna
Speaker 3: fight a lot, and you're gonna turn like twenty one
Speaker 3: twenty two and we'll go back to being buds again.
Speaker 1: And he was definitely right.
Speaker 3: And I've said my version of that that I said
Speaker 3: that to my kids, but I have a different version
Speaker 3: where I tried to better it, and I said, now
Speaker 3: that you've ventured this phase of your life, your brain
Speaker 3: is going to tell you that I don't know what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about, or that I'm being mean to you
Speaker 3: or whatever I go. And I would like to ask
Speaker 3: that you ask yourself, why would this person who loves
Speaker 3: me a lot and just wants what is best for
Speaker 3: me do things to ruin my life? And if like
Speaker 3: genuinely try to see it from that perspective. And I
Speaker 3: don't know how often my kids do it, but I
Speaker 3: know that I don't fight with my sixteen year old
Speaker 3: as much as I did when I fought with my dad, Like,
Speaker 3: we don't have those things.
Speaker 1: That's also a very advanced question for a kid.
Speaker 2: And I would also say, specifically for a boy, to
Speaker 2: ask him the point about that, because I don't. I
Speaker 2: would have never thought my parents tried to ruin my life.
Speaker 2: Every time they said no to something, they're ruining my life.
Speaker 2: And I never would have wrapped my head around the well,
Speaker 2: the point is they're trying to protect me from either
Speaker 2: hurting myself, hurting somebody else, hurting my future, you know,
Speaker 2: setting myself up for failure or something like that.
Speaker 1: I would be be I.
Speaker 3: Just felt like my dad was just so mean when
Speaker 3: I was a teenager, That's what I was. He was
Speaker 3: so mean, and I remember thinking I just wanted to
Speaker 3: be right, which is the other thing I told my kids,
Speaker 3: I said when I was your age, I just want
Speaker 3: to be right once. And here's what I have to
Speaker 3: tell you. It's not going to happen like this is
Speaker 3: not it's not in the cars for you. I go
Speaker 3: to miss every time. But I had like, this is
Speaker 3: the sweetest thing. My son went on a date with
Speaker 3: a girl and they were talking and they were he
Speaker 3: one of the things he likes about her is that
Speaker 3: she's very close with her family, and family is very
Speaker 3: important to them, and he said he goes. Both of
Speaker 3: them said like, he goes. I couldn't imagine ever being
Speaker 3: mad at my parents because at like the lunch table
Speaker 3: they talk and a lot of the kids complain about
Speaker 3: their parents. And he was like and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: same thing. And again he could be sucking me a
Speaker 3: sucking up to me, or and it's working if he's manipulating,
Speaker 3: because I was like, oh, thanks man, Yeah, he's totally
Speaker 3: thanks for thanks for ruining Mike, You're very easy to manipulate.
Speaker 1: We have time to talk about that.
Speaker 3: That seems it just seems like a horrible time in
Speaker 3: the segment to drop that up. No, don't back battle,
Speaker 3: and that's say you made that up.
Speaker 1: No you did it, No, you did it. All jokes
Speaker 1: are based in truth.
Speaker 4: How would I know that? What have I ever tried
Speaker 4: to manipulate you? I don't know, and it's working.
Speaker 1: Point proven. That was stupid. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: here anymore? Can we go ruining your life?
Speaker 4: He's a little bit okay?
Speaker 3: Not the sarcasm also isn't helping because it's not really sarcasm.
Speaker 1: It's just mean, said with a sarcastic tone. Oh that
Speaker 1: was hurtful.
Speaker 4: That was so act.
Speaker 1: I did know.
Speaker 4: I am very sarcastic, but hurtful.
Speaker 1: Am I still hurting this? I can't remember now? John?
Speaker 1: Now you're better now, jesu lout. I just felt like
Speaker 1: I was Jedi my trick. I'm not gonna lie like manipulated.
Speaker 4: I was so oh my god, stop it? Wait? Do
Speaker 4: you do it to me too? Did you guys ever
Speaker 4: get to the seven seven seventh things?
Speaker 1: Where are you?
Speaker 4: I was playing Connections?
Speaker 1: Oh, I rest my case.
Speaker 3: She also manipulated me about paying a quarter percent attention.
Speaker 1: I didn't remember hearing she use all of her brain.
Speaker 5: But I don't Hey, listen, I didn't hear you guys
Speaker 5: say focus on play and focus on teaching and all
Speaker 5: that you did.
Speaker 1: That was at the very beginning. When how did your
Speaker 1: connect for what.
Speaker 3: Were you playing? Well?
Speaker 5: I finished wordle in three No, I think I finished
Speaker 5: it in four. But I'm onto connections now. Connections be
Speaker 5: stuff to speak to.
Speaker 3: Her, like immense strength and manipulation or my immense weakness
Speaker 3: and manipulation.
Speaker 1: Neither. I'm afraid to answer any of what you just said.
Speaker 1: I gotta no, no, I'm not lying. This is not
Speaker 1: a bit like I need to.
Speaker 4: I need to get to the bottom line everything your.
Speaker 2: Manipulating living with a woman, is it?
Speaker 1: It? Don't dare you don't They'll try to distract me
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 4: Mary and Joel.
Speaker 1: All right, now I'm done. Now I'm mad. Hope you're happy.
Speaker 1: I have a great week. Everybody go take a bath and.
Speaker 4: I don't have any hysterical take a bath, smile more.
Speaker 1: Thank you as always,