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<v Speaker 1>But Justin Worsham has joined us. We talk about parenting things.

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<v Speaker 2>Human populations need two point seven children per woman, yep

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<v Speaker 2>to reliably avoid extinction.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna need you to pull your weight, Shannon.

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<v Speaker 1>We need you to get it together. Tony Helper, Tony. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they they're talking about that.

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<v Speaker 3>If we don't maintain an average birth rate per woman

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<v Speaker 3>on the planet of two point seven children, then uh,

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<v Speaker 3>then they're in the long term that could leave to

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<v Speaker 3>an extinction of the species. In the more short term,

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<v Speaker 3>what they're seeing a lot of is that family lines,

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<v Speaker 3>which I love that they put it on like we're

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<v Speaker 3>all royalty, like we care.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, anybody here like I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I listen. I love my father, my grandfather, love all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. But if I was the.

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<v Speaker 4>End of the worship, do not need this line to continue?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 4>Just continue this.

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<v Speaker 3>We're bringing what do we bring it to the genetic

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<v Speaker 3>pool realistically? I mean, I know I'm a good time,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm bringing a lot of high cholesterol, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of diabetes.

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<v Speaker 1>I got near sighted, a stigmatism. The preacher Gray like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need that in the gene pool. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>the sperm that won. I was one on the top.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the line as far as my father was bringing

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<v Speaker 3>to the table back in nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 5>Garry said that to me recently and it was eye opening.

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<v Speaker 5>He's like, well, you at least one one race, And

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh, my god, is it?

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<v Speaker 3>The first race came in first, and then it's just

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<v Speaker 3>a series of seconds and fourth after that.

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<v Speaker 1>God. The other thing that I.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought was interesting is that they what do they say,

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<v Speaker 3>more so already we have more females than males and

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<v Speaker 3>they believe they're not good. Yeah, they've known for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time that they think that that is supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>account for just unknown things, that having more women on

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<v Speaker 3>the planet leads to obviously more people being made right,

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<v Speaker 3>and so that there's some kind of evolutionary trend that

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<v Speaker 3>does that. I also started looking at just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>other data that I thought was interesting about birth rates,

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<v Speaker 3>and it said trends in completed family size vary slightly

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<v Speaker 3>by educational tainments. So this is from a study in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two that found that in nineteen eighty, women

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<v Speaker 3>aged forty to forty four with a bachelor's degree or

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<v Speaker 3>more had the lowest birth rate at two point two children,

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<v Speaker 3>and women with a high school degree or less had

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<v Speaker 3>the highest at three point one to nine children, and

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<v Speaker 3>that the same order persisted in twenty twenty two with

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<v Speaker 3>a narrow range. So in twenty twenty two, women with

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<v Speaker 3>a bachelor's degree had one point seven children, and high

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<v Speaker 3>school degree or less have two point one point four, which,

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<v Speaker 3>with all due respect to anybody, I have some college

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<v Speaker 3>I put on my application, so I would lump myself

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<v Speaker 3>into this. This seems to be we are trending towards

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<v Speaker 3>an idiocracy type situation where their whole premise of that

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<v Speaker 3>movie was that people who should not be having children

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<v Speaker 3>were the ones were having more children.

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<v Speaker 4>Was such a prescient film? Was it two thousand and five?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>Macau and Hong Kong have the lowest fertility rates as

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<v Speaker 3>of this year in world, at point sixty nine and

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<v Speaker 3>point seventy four, respectfully, and Chad, which is a country

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<v Speaker 3>in northern Central Africa, has the highest at five point

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<v Speaker 3>nine four children per woman.

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA, yeah, they average six kids per wow. Yeah. Somalia

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<v Speaker 1>is at five point nine to one.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how many people do you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That are like I'm not, I mean other than Chanlan, like,

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<v Speaker 3>do you feel like I feel like there's more people

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<v Speaker 3>that are not having kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I have more friends now that aren't having kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and here's the thing. My kids have said they

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about having kids, yeah, which is like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you guys were kind of fun, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>had a fun time. Why would you not want to

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<v Speaker 2>have kids.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of pressure, like to put on yourself

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<v Speaker 3>to think that you made me turn them off?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I saw what it did to you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Think there's a lot of I don't want to money.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, it's environment, environment.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's bringing the kids into what world or the

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<v Speaker 4>whole bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't and I don't ever remember. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember having those thoughts in my head about it now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why grant different world different times.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like the Internet ruined all of that because

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<v Speaker 5>it opened our eyes to so much more, so much

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<v Speaker 5>more period to be afraid of, to be afraid of.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's just overwhelming, really, is what it is. It

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<v Speaker 5>was so much simpler when it was just your family

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<v Speaker 5>and your friends and that was the unit, and people

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<v Speaker 5>had kids and that was it, and your purview was

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<v Speaker 5>your world around you really, and then you go to college,

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<v Speaker 5>you meet some new people and then their their world

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<v Speaker 5>opened you up to their world. Now the whole world

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<v Speaker 5>is right in your pocket and it's overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you do plan to have kids, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a new rule of effective parenting in this seven seven

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<v Speaker 2>seven rules.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this, but it's exciting.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like it's also common sense. Okay, how happy

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<v Speaker 5>summer is making me? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not so?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's beautiful, feels like summer because you've had a

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<v Speaker 4>week and a half of just glorious.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like? Get her out of a box?

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<v Speaker 3>Like she's acting like she didn't see before ten am today,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all overcast a cloudy like it's been.

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<v Speaker 2>The past few days. It was, But I mean she

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<v Speaker 2>is very excited now, look at her face.

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<v Speaker 1>I continue to talk about it, she's not.

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<v Speaker 2>She can't hear us tending just to my left, Gary

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<v Speaker 2>and Shannon kf I AM twenty Live Everywhere on the

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<v Speaker 2>iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Warsham has joined us.

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<v Speaker 2>When we're talking parenting, the seven seven seven rule of

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<v Speaker 2>effective parenting.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I did a parenting podcast for probably what I

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<v Speaker 3>want to say, at least seven years, somewhere in.

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<v Speaker 1>That range, maybe longer. Actually might have been ten. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've never come.

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<v Speaker 3>Across this rule, but it definitely parallels a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the advice I would get from like child development specialists

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<v Speaker 3>and pediatricians, people that I talked to on the show

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<v Speaker 3>just parenting, you know, authors, and so it is a

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<v Speaker 3>seven to seven seven rules, so it breaks down the

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<v Speaker 3>different kind of generations of a childhood. So the first

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<v Speaker 3>zero to seven years, the focus as a parent is

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<v Speaker 3>on play, so your kids learn through having fun activities

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<v Speaker 3>and interaction. And then from seven to fourteen is where

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<v Speaker 3>it's more about teaching them lessons, So your interactions become

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<v Speaker 3>more like coaching, and a lot of you know, can

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<v Speaker 3>the way they I want to say lecture, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure that's not what kids want to hear, but I

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<v Speaker 3>definitely know that's what I'm guilty of. And then from

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen to twenty one, it becomes guiding where it's like

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<v Speaker 3>and that's I feel like, even though my younger one

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<v Speaker 3>is he'll be fourteen in the next month, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen that transition where it's like when they become teenagers,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to start, and it's hard, but you have

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<v Speaker 3>to start letting them do their own thing and kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fail while they still have the safety net of

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<v Speaker 3>home and hopefully you can just you point them. I

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<v Speaker 3>spend a lot of time going this is the direction

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<v Speaker 3>I would go if I was you and your brain

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<v Speaker 3>is telling you not to listen to.

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<v Speaker 1>And you want to go one n y way.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was talking to my buddy yesterday about this,

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<v Speaker 3>where I said, I go the thing my dad said

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<v Speaker 3>to me when I was like ten, He goes I said, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I love you, and he goes, well, in a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years, you're gonna hate me. You're gonna think I'm

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<v Speaker 3>an idiot and that you know everything, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>fight a lot, and you're gonna turn like twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two and we'll go back to being buds again.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was definitely right.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've said my version of that that I said

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<v Speaker 3>that to my kids, but I have a different version

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<v Speaker 3>where I tried to better it, and I said, now

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<v Speaker 3>that you've ventured this phase of your life, your brain

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<v Speaker 3>is going to tell you that I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about, or that I'm being mean to you

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever I go. And I would like to ask

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<v Speaker 3>that you ask yourself, why would this person who loves

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<v Speaker 3>me a lot and just wants what is best for

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<v Speaker 3>me do things to ruin my life? And if like

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<v Speaker 3>genuinely try to see it from that perspective. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how often my kids do it, but I

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<v Speaker 3>know that I don't fight with my sixteen year old

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<v Speaker 3>as much as I did when I fought with my dad, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have those things.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also a very advanced question for a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would also say, specifically for a boy, to

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<v Speaker 2>ask him the point about that, because I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have never thought my parents tried to ruin my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time they said no to something, they're ruining my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I never would have wrapped my head around the well,

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<v Speaker 2>the point is they're trying to protect me from either

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<v Speaker 2>hurting myself, hurting somebody else, hurting my future, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>setting myself up for failure or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be be I.

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<v Speaker 3>Just felt like my dad was just so mean when

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<v Speaker 3>I was a teenager, That's what I was. He was

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<v Speaker 3>so mean, and I remember thinking I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>be right, which is the other thing I told my kids,

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<v Speaker 3>I said when I was your age, I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to be right once. And here's what I have to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you. It's not going to happen like this is

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<v Speaker 3>not it's not in the cars for you. I go

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<v Speaker 3>to miss every time. But I had like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the sweetest thing. My son went on a date with

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<v Speaker 3>a girl and they were talking and they were he

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things he likes about her is that

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<v Speaker 3>she's very close with her family, and family is very

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<v Speaker 3>important to them, and he said he goes. Both of

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<v Speaker 3>them said like, he goes. I couldn't imagine ever being

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<v Speaker 3>mad at my parents because at like the lunch table

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<v Speaker 3>they talk and a lot of the kids complain about

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<v Speaker 3>their parents. And he was like and she was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>same thing. And again he could be sucking me a

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<v Speaker 3>sucking up to me, or and it's working if he's manipulating,

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<v Speaker 3>because I was like, oh, thanks man, Yeah, he's totally

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<v Speaker 3>thanks for thanks for ruining Mike, You're very easy to manipulate.

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<v Speaker 1>We have time to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems it just seems like a horrible time in

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<v Speaker 3>the segment to drop that up. No, don't back battle,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's say you made that up.

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<v Speaker 1>No you did it, No, you did it. All jokes

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<v Speaker 1>are based in truth.

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<v Speaker 4>How would I know that? What have I ever tried

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<v Speaker 4>to manipulate you? I don't know, and it's working.

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<v Speaker 1>Point proven. That was stupid. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>here anymore? Can we go ruining your life?

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<v Speaker 4>He's a little bit okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Not the sarcasm also isn't helping because it's not really sarcasm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just mean, said with a sarcastic tone. Oh that

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<v Speaker 1>was hurtful.

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<v Speaker 4>That was so act.

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<v Speaker 1>I did know.

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<v Speaker 4>I am very sarcastic, but hurtful.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I still hurting this? I can't remember now? John?

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're better now, jesu lout. I just felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I was Jedi my trick. I'm not gonna lie like manipulated.

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<v Speaker 4>I was so oh my god, stop it? Wait? Do

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<v Speaker 4>you do it to me too? Did you guys ever

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<v Speaker 4>get to the seven seven seventh things?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I was playing Connections?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I rest my case.

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<v Speaker 3>She also manipulated me about paying a quarter percent attention.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't remember hearing she use all of her brain.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't Hey, listen, I didn't hear you guys

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<v Speaker 5>say focus on play and focus on teaching and all

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<v Speaker 5>that you did.

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<v Speaker 1>That was at the very beginning. When how did your

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<v Speaker 1>connect for what.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you playing? Well?

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<v Speaker 5>I finished wordle in three No, I think I finished

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<v Speaker 5>it in four. But I'm onto connections now. Connections be

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<v Speaker 5>stuff to speak to.

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<v Speaker 3>Her, like immense strength and manipulation or my immense weakness

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<v Speaker 3>and manipulation.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither. I'm afraid to answer any of what you just said.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta no, no, I'm not lying. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>a bit like I need to.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to get to the bottom line everything your.

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<v Speaker 2>Manipulating living with a woman, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>It? Don't dare you don't They'll try to distract me

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<v Speaker 1>with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Mary and Joel.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now I'm done. Now I'm mad. Hope you're happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a great week. Everybody go take a bath and.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have any hysterical take a bath, smile more.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you as always,