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Speaker 1: Okay, we're a live Hi. This is William Ramsey. Welcome

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to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. Have a very

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special guest turning guests. His name is Andrew. He operates

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the six g Agenda podcast. Check it out. This will

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be our eighth episode and this will be the fourth

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in a series we've done on Michael Akino and mind War,

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and I think this will be the end, but we're

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going to kind of finish up with some of the

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material from Aquino's later works and can also investigate the claims.

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And some people have said it online and I've researched

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it of either a Keno or the temple have set

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or some of the people in the Bay Area being

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involved with the Zodiac killings and this kind of disabusing

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this notion of a lone nut doing these deaths. And

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I've had somebody on my show a while back, and

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I'll put a link to the interview I did. But

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his name is Jack Myers. He wrote a book called

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Son of Zodiac, which is a conflation of Son of

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Sam and Zodiac, but it's how Zodiac and Son of

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Sam serial murders were meant to usher in the coming

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of Satan and the timing has overlapsed. It's very similar

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in the seventies. There's a lot of speculation, like the

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need to say, but the psychological psychological impact of the

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Zodiac and the Son of Sam are not speculative. Like

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I've done shows and many shows. I know. Son of

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Sam actually at Birkwoitz write me a personal letter. It's

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on my Patreon. But their intent was to have a

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massive psychological impact, which it did. Like the Son of

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Sam and Zodiac. The what happened to the public mind

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and the psyche of the public in the mind war,

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if you will, was much more immense than even the

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crimes because there were especially New York at that time.

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That Son of Sam murders was just like off the charts.

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There was all kinds of criminality and their corruption and

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stuff going on, but it just captured the pub to mind.

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These letters, they're very similar events happening with Son of

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Sam and Zodiac. Taunting letters, cryptic information and really your

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mind were kind of situation going on, and a lot

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of like dark characters in the East Coast. It was

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like the processed churches around and all these other groups,

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and they're around here too, they're around in this kind

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of Bay Area stuff. So there's a lot of I

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think valid inquiries into that subject of like some of

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these occult is being involved in and a cult series

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of murder. Zodiac is a cold kind of thing, and

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then the cryptograms and all this. There's a smiling skeleton

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in one of the pictures, like a smiley faced skeleton,

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which is really strange. But Andrew can talk more about that.

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So Andrew, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hey William, thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 3: Super excited to get into the crazy occult aspect, the

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spiritual aspect, if you will, a dark spiritual aspect of

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this mind war. I say mind star for last because

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I think that again, yeah, like you said, it leads

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into kind of the movement we see outwardly, the Satanic

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movement that we saw. I think the first iteration of

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the accelerationist movement would be kind of that Satanic panic era. Right,

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And so here we are, and yeah, it's just every

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day we're getting hammered.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're still under massive psychological operational things

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probably for decades. Like it's incredible, Like I'm fifty seven.

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It just hasn't stopped. The wars and the psyops and

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all this stuff, like we're really in some kind of weird,

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magical universe. But it goes back to the sixties and seventies,

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probably with the advent of mass media or the new

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kind of digital media and the implementation of these guys ideas,

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these ideas that were very well thought through, just like

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a Gino writing book after book after book and being

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associated with all these forts. He's at Wachuka for brag

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the one in Nebraska Presidio which one of the Zodiac

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crimes happened literally like a stone's throw from the presidio,

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which is an old military base. They've like taken it

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out of the military. It's a great piece of land.

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Speaker 2: But it was very close.

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Speaker 1: What's the Air Force base off it? I think it's

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off it that was associated with Eric and the Kino's

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around in all these weird places. But you wanted to

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want to just reference some of those books first?

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Speaker 2: Definitely, so you know, mind Star we haven't gotten into yet.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of, I believe a sales pitch book for

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his set, his setient philosophy, and I did want to

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recap Fine Far, just as a I did a little

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bit more research on it since the last show we did.

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I just want to recap kind of like the point

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of what that book was. Besides this kind of exoteric

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view that we got by reading it. It's kind of

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like a philosophical manifesto. That's why had a hard time

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getting through some of the information by the way he

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spoke about it, because in that book he's speaking from

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a what he calls a fourth dimensional or a fifth

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dimensional kind of quantum realm. In other words, if I

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act on you psychologically and spiritually in ways that you

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don't perceive, what will happen later?

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Speaker 2: Right, So it's.

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Speaker 3: Exactly what we're talking about with what these psychological operations

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are supposed to bring on as a result.

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Speaker 2: And so that's what Fine Far is.

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Speaker 3: And it's hard to read because he's speaking from that

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quantum kind of area of thinking. So I just want

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to mention there's one area of this I found very

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interesting recently. I've been researching Nick Land and the accelerationist movement,

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and one thing they say is that a to join

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the hive mind, we have to get rid of our ego,

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deprogram ourselves. That's exactly what a Kino says in his books.

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rid of your old I guess you could call it

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your old hardware, so you could replace it with this

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new hardware, since we're talking about technology being involved. But

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they say that a schizophrenic because it is actually a

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post human actor, somebody who's closer to this next level

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that they want to get us to. If you take

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that into a consideration, they're manufacturing schizophrenia. I mean, if

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you think about it, right, that's why weeds legal everywhere.

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hormone replacements, and of course the online.

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Speaker 1: Radical dismogenesis is the big word for it, schismogenesis.

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Speaker 3: There we go, Okay, so you're familiar, Yeah, of course, yeah,

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of course you know about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so it's this conduit for singularity, is the collapsing

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of the ego. And so when you take that in

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new consideration and then think about the message behind fine

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far the core message is to separate yourself from the

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herd mind. So he believes were already in this herd mind.

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an inversion of reality to get into the herd mentality. Fully,

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dissolving of identity as they teach in the Dark Enlightenment.

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program state, which I think we're getting to now, and

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that he's promoting this independent consciousness is isolated intelligence to

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become aware of your own existence beyond biology, control structures,

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et cetera.

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Speaker 2: To become your own god.

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Speaker 3: Instead of worshiping an external deity. You refine and involve yourself,

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and then you create your own meaning. So you don't

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have a soul until you refine your soul. You're essentially

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an animal until you refine it. And that's what they

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these mystery school cults. So I wouldn't point that out. Yeah, yeah,

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so that was in fine far. That's kind of the

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point of that. He hides it very well in the

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way he writes that book, and I don't think I

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did it justice, so I want to just recap that.

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Speaker 2: So that was about it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that's interesting how you inverted this

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dissolving of the ego as being a good thing to

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Speaker 2: It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's the old theme. It's the old theme, but it's

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also how they're creating personality and that it's almost the

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same thing between Mayat we were talking about in the

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pre Chomighty, we're in the on nine name is still

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like some of the stuff is still going on seven

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six four, and the shootings that happened in San Diego

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wing strain. But Maya talks about that too, is creating

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this different personality and then the public is just a

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bunch of Mundanes or you know, muggles or people on

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autonomic You know that they're not fully conscious, but we're

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going to create our own full consciousness. That's almost like

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an uberminted consciousness. And it's the same. So the turn,

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like you said, it's just terminology, but all the concepts

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are literally the same. There's like almost like they restated

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in different ways or more clever ways, but it's the

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same concepts, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was listening to Mark and Risen on

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Joe Rogan the other day and I was hearing so

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many little things that I was like, man, that sounds

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just like I mean, some of this stuff I read

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Speaker 2: Work or Crowley.

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Speaker 3: So these people are you know, they're they're definitely involved

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very heavily. So yeah, I just see it rear it's

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the beginning. It's the social engineering of the mind. Mind

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Star is the soul in individual consciousness. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: Find far is kind of why I just went over.

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Speaker 3: That's that relationship between consciousness and reality beyond ordinary perceptions.

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argues that humans are more like biological machines. He rejects

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restrict materialism and also traditional religion. He just kind of

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Speaker 2: Just kind of you and give yourself over to God.

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and it exists automatically. A Kino says that immortality, the

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soul does not exist automatically. You have to strengthen your

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individual consciousness. This is very similar to Plato gnostic traditions

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Speaker 2: You know, Egyptian tradition.

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that I was just talking about the objective universe, and

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The K is the complete mirror image, he says, of

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all eight natural and non natural emanations. So anyway, in

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which can exist into place or displaced without limit. So

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this is kind of your eternal self that he talks about,

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that you can kind of transmute into a higher being.

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Speaker 2: That's my point. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: It always goes back to Egypt, whether you're talking about Tesla, Crowley, Plato,

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admit Atlantis essentially, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It always goes back through even the Mason, So it

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all goes back to Egypt. That's why Crole had to

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Speaker 2: So right, and he went into the king's chamber. Am

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they had a UFO over the sphinx and they said

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that the gods will come back as this right the UFOs.

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and the guy there literally sat on Crowley's knee. Who

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was on there was he was the director of the

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film Performance, which is totally satanic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And wasn't that called what was it called Lucifer

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that Lucifer Rising. I thought I thought you had something

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you were pulling up, But no, it's no big deal.

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included an examination of what he terms thought architecture. Humans

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are normally both ignorant of and unconcerned with how their

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thoughts originate and are structured, so they just think and

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this is all there is to it, right, So in

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other words, people are just on an autopilot. But that is

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not all there is to it. The interface between the

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consciousness and the physical senses is the brain an electromagnetic

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chemical machine. Notice he says machine. It processes raw sensory

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and puts into predetermined, recognized patterns for or new experience.

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this is important, comes through the subconscious So he's saying

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that the subconsciousness where you can actually do the best

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mind war at That's what he's getting at there. So

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says that additional five percent rises to the attention of

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consciousness to require active consideration, which is algorithmic thought. So

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only five percent of our actual consciousness, he's saying, gets

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thought about consciously. Most of it's autopilot, so they would

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need to access that part of our of our mind.

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Speaker 2: This is page seventeen, by the way, if you're employed.

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Speaker 3: So this results in deliberate decision making and also an

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mind more is a manual for the practical applications in

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the objective unit, so that it can concentrate on identification

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and control pattern of the algorithmic thought. So we need

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to control the algorithmic thought the way you think. So

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we're going to act on your subconscious all the time

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to help generate that algorithmic thought in the way we want.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, So that's why it's important to have this spiritual

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and psychological aspect to this understood.

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Speaker 1: That's what's happening now, Like he predicted what's going on

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on the internet. Yes, this full algorithm, just like manipulating

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the living daylight side of you.

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Speaker 2: I known't that crazies even all the way down to

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the terminology.

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that he briefly speaks about mind war, and it's called

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conceptual thought, also known as the creative or divine. This

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identifies thinking which is not the product of OU. So

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this is recognizing and classifying mechanisms. It comes into existence

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in pure uniqueness what Plato terms noasis or enlightened in tuition,

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rather it generates its own subjective universe. Now, this is

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getting into the OU and the SU. He's going to

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Speaker 2: That a lot.

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Speaker 3: So as each thought is discreete and individual experiencing such

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will apprehend numerous unique subjective universe as he goes through

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his life. So in other words, he's going to have

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certain thought process, just like mine. So he's wondering, how

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can we use a mirror essentially to kind of generate

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this in a certain way. So if input from the

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objective universe is not intelligible, it is simply disregarded and

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then it's just noise. So these humans can be easily

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manipulated because they don't want to hear it and they

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tune out the information and conflict with their accustomed c sus. Right,

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their own programming every day. Even when people like me

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and you point it out right.

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Speaker 1: Condition responses those type of things. Yeah, they don't even

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realize it, but their condition. Yeah.

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beginning of what he's saying that this book is going

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to be about. So as he goes through it, I've

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got some chapters in here, but I've got my notes,

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uh yep. Yeah, Kino discusses different aspects of consciousness and identity.

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Speaker 2: Rather than a single entity.

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Speaker 3: So in Egyptian and Emanations, this chapter, I don't know

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what page it is for you.

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Speaker 2: I'll have to find it. Let me look at my index,

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try to see here Egypt.

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because that's where he gets into the whole Egyptian philosophy.

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and Isis and all that they're the evil ones and

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set Is actually the good one. Right, So you've got

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this complete inversion of the Ossyrian practices. I found that

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super interesting as well, because you know, you think of

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Seth Seth like in the Christian Bible, in the conspiracy world.

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Seth would be like the Adamite, so he'd be actually

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the good line and a Chino trace is set to

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Seth from this Christian story. So in a weird way,

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a lot of the Seed Wars stuff would lead you

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Speaker 2: It could it could lead there.

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Speaker 1: Interesting it is, please continue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Egyptian history kind of gets into that, but

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I want to get to let me see here.

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Speaker 2: You find it here, Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 3: So to the Egyptians, all of nature was alive and

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direct consequence of the wills of the Netturu, which are

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these demiurge, That's what I call them.

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Speaker 2: They're just the demiurge, the gnostic gods.

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Speaker 3: Nature was intelligible, but not just through inanimate, automatic and

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general regularities which could be discovered through the scientific method,

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but also through connections and association between things and even

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in events perceived in the human mind. I kind of

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think of like my celium with this, right, so you

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have this interconnected intelligence underground of my celium and trees.

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little bit. But notice all things are conscious, but not

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all things have a soul, So therefore that puts us

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on the level of like trees and like animals. You

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see how easily that kind of logic can be drawn there.

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of exerting an effect upon the mind thereby existed. So

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this gets into the whole consciousness creates your real not

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the other way around, which is important because that leads

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into this Luciferian philosophy of you make your own reality.

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That's your truth, not my truth. Right easily leads into that.

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and he talks about there's no records of the ancient

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priesthood of Set that survived from the first Ossyrian dynastic

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persecution later the more general vandalism of the Christian Islamic

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eras we know of it only by its reflection both

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in the character of Set as he has portrayed symbolically

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and mythologically. So it talks about three significant facts that

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of the Egyptian priesthoods. If we dated to the earliest

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dynastic images of Set found, we can establish an origin

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of at least thirty two hundred BC, so it's working

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with the Egyptian on astronomically BA to records. So Set

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was the netter who was different from all the others.

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slayer of Osiris, hence the personification of evil yet any

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but most of the cursory study of Egyptian religious symbolism

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is sufficient to dispel this caricature. He was rather a

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net ter against the netsuru, the entity who symbolize that

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which is not of nature. So he's the real god,

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right killing the natural gods. So this is a very

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curious role for a net or in Egyptian cosmology, to

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be a presence and force which alone could not be

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apprehended by perceptions of the natural senses. So this thus

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represents the nameless thing whose existence we know of by

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the shadow at casts on many on things apprehended. So

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he's just this is the life force, right, that's what

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he's saying. That's what Set represents. So he says, focus

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our attention on what remains, the very awareness of self

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is what's left after you kind of strip away the

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what does he say here? Post Egyptian cultures have generalized

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the vehicle by which this pressure presence and manifest as

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the spirit, psyche or soul.

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Speaker 2: But increased precision is possible.

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Speaker 3: We must subtract from such crudeness that what is life

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for uce and focus our intention on what remains the

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awareness of self. So yeah, this just gets into the

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whole Youngian philosophy of the shadow self. That's kind of

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what that is, and that's awesome, like the parallels you'll

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find with like the shadow self, and then a lot

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of the setient philosophy, which is just breaking down your

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natural instincts are that you're born with or that you

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programmed yourself to have and kind of uniting yourself with

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your shadow self so you can be enlightened.

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Speaker 2: Right. That's the Youngian philosophy in a nutshell.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, he just kind of talks about religions for

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a while, and he speaks about the enlightenment. So a

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lot of this talks about he's kind of just like

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disproving a lot of the religions, a lot of the philosophies,

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saying how they're just not good enough because it doesn't

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teach you to venerate your own soul. But this one's

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interesting here, who owns your body? On page one point thirty,

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So this talks about the protagonists of the matrix. So

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he assumed that he did until he awakened to discover

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it attached to a variety of purisitic mechanisms.

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Speaker 2: Let's find out what you might be hooked up to.

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Speaker 3: So he's saying that, just like Neo was hooked up

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to the machine, you're hooked up to the state. You're

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hooked up to the religion, the profession that you have

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psychiatry family, right, so you got a deep program detached

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from yourself, right. These are all different things he talks

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about here. So indeed, even this is a bit of

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the broad brush. Biological science estimates that each human body

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contains about thirty nine trillion living bacterial cells who've somehow

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all decided to be you for a while, at least

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in the metaphysical realm. There are the Egyptians detected and

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identified only eight of you. So I don't even know

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what the hell that means. That's some weird shit. Eight

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aspects to yourself like the chakras, I guess, But yeah,

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So that he just talks about how weirdis these are

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our programming mechanisms, right, our family, profession, our state, religion.

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They own our body, is what he's saying. Just like

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Neo was owned by the Matrix that way. So it's

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funny how the Matrix kind of we know that the

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Matrix has a lot of that Eastern philosophy of like.

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Speaker 2: Enlightenment in it.

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Speaker 3: It's funny how he relates that to this where he's like,

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that's what you got to do. You know, it just

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draws that that is the Satanic philosophy then, right, I

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mean it just proves that age Enlightenment era is really

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let in by the guys like this right.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's the Satanic world's view is just kind of

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almost a dual world, right, yep, Like you live in

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one reality, I live in another reality. That's why they

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can do all this fromatic stuff like get away with things,

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because they just just feel like you're in a different world.

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It's like the eloy and the Morlocks or whatever it

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is from HG. Well's Time Machine, like they're just different entities.

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They detach themselves from other people. That's exactly what the

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on nine A does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they look at you as somebody who

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just like it.

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Speaker 3: Says, here the taboo of metaphysics, right, Well, there's a

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taboo around metaphysics. That's why we're able to use metaphysics

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to manipulate you, because you don't believe in it or whatever.

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metaphysics dates to the European Enlightenment, so he gets into that.

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It talks about the cond name of science and scientists

475
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,920
as a threat to the Holy Bible. A meaning God

476
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,559
is the creator of the ou would also imply his

477
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,519
continued presence and willful discretion to change or ignore its

478
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,720
established consistency. If he were ruled out altogether, miracle explanations

479
00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:18,519
for mysterious events wouldn't be moot.

480
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Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of point he's making there.

481
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 3: Ironically, religion religionists, he calls them, have never attempted to

482
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,680
argue the active presence of God for the existence and

483
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:33,119
enforcement of the o U n L, which is shortened

484
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for the objective universe in nets her nature or something.

485
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,480
So rather they would have sought evidence of God's existence

486
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:45,240
and power and claimed miracles such as the parting of

487
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,680
the Red Sea, changing a person into a pillar of

488
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,200
salt in Jesus walking and water. The obvious absurdity of

489
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:56,000
such Voudavillain dramatics served only to ridicule religion all the

490
00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:59,079
more so He's saying, your beliefs are actually giving us

491
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,759
more reason. A ritic you oh, most is part of

492
00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:05,119
the red sea. Huh yeah, okay, you know. So it

493
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:08,599
just adds to the jokes that they look at religion

494
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,400
as so that's kind of it. He kind of leaves

495
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,039
it there. For the metaphysical taboo aspect, it gets into symbolism,

496
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,119
and then Orwellian unwords on page one forty three, I

497
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:25,519
have some stuff underlined here. George Orwell realized the subtle

498
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:28,759
yet decisive power of language in his classic novel nineteen

499
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eighty four, in which political heresy is being systematically eliminated

500
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by the destruction of words by which to conceive or

501
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:39,839
express it. So it says here, don't you see that

502
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,960
the whole aim of news speak is to narrow the

503
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:44,759
range of thought. In the end, we will make thought

504
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:47,799
crime literally impossible, because there will be no words in

505
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,960
which to express it. Every concept that can ever be

506
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:55,519
needed will be expressed by exactly one word. It's meaning

507
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,680
rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and

508
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,759
forgot already. We're not far from that point, but the

509
00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:05,519
process will still be continuing long after you and I

510
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:05,880
are dead.

511
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,279
Speaker 2: This is an excerpt from the book.

512
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: Every year I fewer and fewer words, and the range

513
00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:12,079
of consciousness always a little smaller.

514
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: Man that looks like today lol.

515
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: Btw, I mean the language is being like getting coarser

516
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,720
and coarser.

517
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:26,039
Speaker 2: Yeah.

518
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,079
Speaker 3: He ends with this, the whole climate of thought will

519
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:30,359
be indifferent. In fact, there will be no thought as

520
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,759
we understand it now, Orthodoxy means not thinking, not needing

521
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:39,240
to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness. So I mean that's what

522
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,240
you know, like the whole like we talked about earlier,

523
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:46,359
the getting people more schizophrenic, or the legalization of say

524
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,200
weed or put people on Xanax for their anxiety. These

525
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,000
eliminate your thought. Like you have the short videos on

526
00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:55,519
social media right, these are all.

527
00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: Yep, they all add to it.

528
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: You're not actually going to get depressed because you're not

529
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,440
going to feel anything. You're going to be totally numb.

530
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: And that's the soma from Brave New World, where you

531
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,599
know I just talked about that today. Aldus Huxley, you know,

532
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,720
speaks a lot about getting rid of the emotional regularities

533
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,000
that people have so they're more conducive to conform to

534
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:25,359
society because they don't actually have emotions. And the way

535
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,160
you could do that is numbing or numbing their emotions

536
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,680
with drugs. And I think they figured out a way

537
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,759
to do that environmentally maybe with autism.

538
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: I think that's got a big, big part of that.

539
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: From all angles, man.

540
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was a big part of my my

541
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,319
kind of thing was like the eugenics, I think are

542
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:51,119
creating autism on purpose while they're also uh sequencing the

543
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,920
genome so they can purify their DNA that's been they believe,

544
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:58,039
muddied up over the years, so they can be god

545
00:29:58,119 --> 00:29:59,960
kings again, et cetera. Right, because they think, you know,

546
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:02,839
it goes back to this bloodline again, it's pure bloodline

547
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:04,039
to the god kings.

548
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: I think you're one hundred percent right, But it's gonna

549
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,240
it's gonna be that division. So it's gonna be for them,

550
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:13,440
but you get nothing. Yeah, you are the slave they

551
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:18,039
shall serve. It's the old kind of Satanic dictum. Absolutely,

552
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:19,839
So I think that that's where it's at, like they're

553
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,079
the god kings.

554
00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see.

555
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: Somebody mentioned that the set of the Egyptians is very

556
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,920
different than a Quino set, and that's absolutely true. A

557
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,640
lot of his stuff is inversion, right, the adversary becomes

558
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,240
the savior. It's the classic inversion of what happened in

559
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,039
the garden as him being the good guy and we

560
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:38,440
were held in there by a vindictive evil god in

561
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,799
the garden and we were saved by enlightenment and intellect,

562
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:43,319
by you know, coming out.

563
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: It's all bs.

564
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the tree of knowledge of good and evil,

565
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:50,359
its just the tree of knowledge. They all use the

566
00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:53,599
same thing, so they're kept from knowledge. And then Prometheus

567
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,960
is your hero. H It's just all the same stuff.

568
00:30:58,079 --> 00:30:58,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

569
00:30:59,039 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

570
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: They got to add the go good and evil tropes

571
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,839
so they could be like, look, you you wouldn't have

572
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:04,440
had any moral servitude if.

573
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: We didn't get you out of that guarden.

574
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,119
Speaker 1: So there's your discord. How many how many people do

575
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:13,400
you have in your discord? You are you there often?

576
00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: So we just got that going, well, we've had it

577
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,640
for a while, but we just really started hammering on it.

578
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,519
So we've kind of created and curated a timeline of information.

579
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:23,359
If like you want to see some topics that we'll

580
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,440
be talking about. Discord's a great place. Now we've got

581
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,920
to show chat where I'll put post in there from

582
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,240
ex Twitter in between the weeks when I'm not doing shows,

583
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:34,240
just as topics that you may see me talk about

584
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:37,680
or just interesting things. And so yeah, also, like I

585
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,559
had a show schedule for this week for the live

586
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:41,359
shows we're doing, so it's a good place just to

587
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,920
keep up with what's going on with the show.

588
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: I'll put a link in the show notes. I'll put

589
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,880
your Discord link on there.

590
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:48,559
Speaker 2: Absolutely so.

591
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:52,599
Speaker 3: Orwell's illustration was simplified into a dictionary which kept shrinking

592
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,680
with every edition. The reality is detailed in my companion volume,

593
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:00,200
Mind War is more subtle, but just as persistent. This

594
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,119
is interesting so we can see what they're actually doing.

595
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:07,400
So humans form panoramas of patterns of reality over time

596
00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:11,640
based upon continuous and reinforcing sensory input. This is the

597
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,039
programming we've been talking about.

598
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,079
Speaker 2: So this includes.

599
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:19,799
Speaker 3: Political ideologies, propaganda design to instill and preserve desired values

600
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:25,599
and interpretations. So the more sensational and dramatic propaganda targets

601
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:31,079
the conscious perceptions. The far stronger conditioning takes place subconsciously.

602
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,039
Speaker 2: Now we see that all the time.

603
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: For example, the term democracy means one thing to a

604
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,359
capitalist and another to a socialist or communists, So you

605
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:42,079
could use the dual definitions of things depending on somebody's

606
00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:46,920
subjective understanding of that thing, And so two people are

607
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,440
actually in two realities. Right, So I see that all

608
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,920
the time. For instance, where like online, you know, somebody

609
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,039
may say one.

610
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,359
Speaker 2: You'll accept.

611
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got two working definitions of the same thing,

612
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:02,880
So you were in two different realities. Right. You look

613
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,079
at communism as one thing, I look at it as another. Right,

614
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,240
So socialism's could to you, it's bad to me that.

615
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,319
Speaker 2: Kind of thing. I was trying to think of a

616
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:09,880
good example.

617
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: But such patterns formed the individual's pillars of reality identified

618
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,960
and changed only slowly, with considerable difficulty, if at all.

619
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,240
But obviously this mind more trilogy publication is the educational

620
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:28,880
process and environment in technologically advanced country that's undergoing further

621
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,480
change consequent to digital media, which influenced both subconscious and

622
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:38,480
conscious thinking in audio visual processes faster, more intuitively, and

623
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:41,680
less personally deliberative than previously.

624
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,799
Speaker 2: Before, so that, Yeah, I mean he's right on.

625
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: You know, he's like, look social media, like he kind

626
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,039
of knew what was going to happen with the social

627
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:54,000
media echo chambers, et cetera. So reality becomes more of

628
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:55,440
a variable than a constant.

629
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,759
Speaker 1: Obviously he was one hundred percent right when the guy

630
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:02,559
had real foresight, There's no question about it. Yeah, when

631
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,960
was this published? Seventy seven?

632
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: No, so this particular had to be twenty thirteen.

633
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's when he came out.

634
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:13,039
Speaker 3: Because it was on the mid twenty, like twenty tens

635
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:14,960
is whenever he came out with all three books. But

636
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,719
he had been writing this I think for years. Twenty sixteen,

637
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,639
twenty eighteen publication.

638
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's dood in twenty nineteen September first.

639
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, so all this came out right before he died.

640
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,400
But I mean I think this was stuff that was

641
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,400
on papers that people were reading about, you know, in

642
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,079
the you know, what would you call it, the special

643
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,920
access programs. They were learning about this. This was like

644
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,159
what they had to study with I guarantee it or

645
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:38,880
something like this.

646
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: I think you're.

647
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: So he's got something in here called sacking the sack

648
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:48,719
mindstar proposes to free both atheists an agnostics from the

649
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,800
glum problem. He says, BBS prospect. I don't really know

650
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,199
what bbs. He has a lot of short, shorthanded words.

651
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:00,320
I don't know what BBS stands for. As discussed previous here,

652
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,679
in Egyptians apprehended the objective universe as the physical manifestation

653
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,800
of conceiving principles, the netru or nature. These were symbolized

654
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:16,000
as animals and theory anthropes. And remember that in this context,

655
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,800
symbolism is an ideographic representation of a concept beyond more

656
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,559
alphabetics or for that matter, simple pictures. So accordingly, the

657
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:29,639
netaru could just as easily be called forms like by

658
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:35,440
Pythagoras and Plato acyr, like by the ancient Egyptian or Europeans,

659
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:39,079
or the an er ai n you are by j

660
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,159
R R token.

661
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,199
Speaker 2: Can we look up what that is? Ai n you

662
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,079
are JR.

663
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:49,199
Speaker 1: I'll do it right now.

664
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,559
Speaker 2: I'm really confed. I want to.

665
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 3: I wonder about this, but these are not cartoon gods

666
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,000
as moderns brought up on the soap opera mythologies. So

667
00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:03,000
I guess these would be like the little Pantheon of gods. Okay, yeah,

668
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,719
I was like, what are these? But okay, so they

669
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,559
call it the forms and Pythagoras and Plato, I didn't

670
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:11,079
know that the aur.

671
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,519
Speaker 1: Are like the early kind of like spiritual beings. Okays,

672
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:17,960
like the singulars au in your only ones are great

673
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:23,760
ones are the primordial, immortal, divine spirits created by Eruvatar

674
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,559
as the first beings in existence.

675
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, so yeah, God makes the little g gods. Right,

676
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,159
these would be the sons of God. In the Bible,

677
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:35,280
the sons of God were made first in Genesis, and

678
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,320
then after that it goes into the garden. A lot

679
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,000
of people don't catch that. So he like makes the

680
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,679
son of God and has them go take over the

681
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,920
earth and lay dominion over the nature.

682
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: Right, which is interesting because what are these?

683
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: These are the little g gods, the forces of nature,

684
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,480
and he has these go out and take over nature.

685
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,440
And then in the next chapter you have Adam get

686
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,360
made in the garden. So there's man in the son

687
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,320
of God. And then later they mentioned the son of

688
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,119
God in Genesis six where it says the sons of

689
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:06,440
God came down onto the women, the daughters of men.

690
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:10,599
So you have a differentation between sons of God and men,

691
00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:13,199
and this is why people believe the Nephlom were created

692
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:15,440
with these fallen angels, which is where you get back

693
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,400
to the bloodlines that leads into this.

694
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,199
Speaker 2: Right crazy, So that would be the Aner.

695
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 3: Then that's crazy. They use a lot of token stuff

696
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,679
like pounteer and everything. So that's why I was curious

697
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,239
what that was, right, I.

698
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:32,199
Speaker 1: Mean, it's.

699
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: So the netru are pluralized for a more refined interpretation

700
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,760
of the objective universe, complexity and interaction between markedly different phenomenon.

701
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:48,880
So Lazier simple minds could and did describe the collective

702
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,039
principles as a conglomerate god. So he's saying all these

703
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:56,079
are different aspects to the same. So he's saying that

704
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,840
people believe in this god. But really it's just nature

705
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:01,440
and you could tap into it. That's really it, you know.

706
00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:05,400
So does the OU require a prior imaginative creative agency

707
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,119
to bring it into existence is a question, he says,

708
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:13,960
consider its size and complexity, which everywhere functions precisely and harmoniously,

709
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,639
a gigantic machine of almost infinite number and variety of

710
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:21,039
working parts. If the mechanism per se is not expressive enough,

711
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:25,559
note that everywhord's components, both severally and in various levels

712
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,079
of grouping, have a strong aesthetic aspect. In short, it

713
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:32,280
is not just functional, but beautiful in every sensory.

714
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: So it does a work of art as well as science.

715
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: So absent to net Drew, proposing that a machine like

716
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,039
this could just appear and function by nothing more than

717
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:46,199
sheer random accident is not just slightly but overwhelmingly beyond

718
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,440
statistical probability.

719
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:49,559
Speaker 2: So obviously it's just saying that this.

720
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: World couldn't have been made without these forces, right, So

721
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,119
it needs an external enforcement.

722
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 2: That's what Plato teach.

723
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:02,599
Speaker 3: Everything's held together by like this pushing of like this

724
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:06,519
external force. And so the proof of the existence and

725
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:09,039
power of the netru is and requires nothing more than

726
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:12,679
the fact of this natural existence that we live in,

727
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,039
That's what he's saying. So just the fact we live

728
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:20,920
here proves that they're real. So yeah, very interesting. He

729
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:26,159
talks about extrapolating ignorance. Profane humans generally perceive passive faith

730
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:29,840
based indoctrination only they are not expected to actively examine

731
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:35,960
or interrogate such indoctrination. Indeed, are usually re reprimanded or

732
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,679
punished if they do so accordingly, they assume themselves to

733
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,280
be defined and manifest by their own physical bodies and senses.

734
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,440
If they think about death, which most avoid doing, they

735
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,519
imagine only the blind fear, and thus they are easy

736
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:54,599
prey for these profane religions. So these religions are just

737
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:56,519
used to control these people that don't know how to

738
00:39:56,559 --> 00:40:00,320
process their own reality or question their own existence because

739
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:00,920
they're scared.

740
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what he you know, that's what

741
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,119
he sums it up to.

742
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: Now.

743
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: Also, that's also the uh, the Masonic term for kind

744
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,639
of like the holy poloized profane you know, yes, absorb,

745
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,239
absorbing that terminology.

746
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,199
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right into the Masonic kind of vocabulary there. So,

747
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,639
not only do religions have no power or authority to

748
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:28,039
decrease such fates, but their private and public documents make

749
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:30,480
it clear that they have not the slightest idea about

750
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:36,559
actual afterlife or even how to discover it. So, yeah,

751
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:40,960
the kids in reincarnation, necromancy, and necromancy, let's look at

752
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,239
this because this is crazy.

753
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:42,599
Speaker 1: Uh.

754
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: Ritual summing of the departed has been an interest of

755
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:50,719
this on page one fifty four, UH has been an

756
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,599
interest of ceremonial magicians, medium scientists, and say on setists.

757
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:59,519
Since antiquity, most of this can be written off as superstitions, delusion,

758
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:04,000
or fraudulent. But if thought is indeed a field phenomenon

759
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,000
and the MS is immortal, there's no reason to assume

760
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,079
that the communications of the esp type is impossible. So

761
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:14,800
our full inquiry into so pretty much mediumship has to

762
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,079
be real, is what he's posing here. So, as discussed

763
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:23,519
in mind war, deliberate concentration and energizing of both conscious

764
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:29,039
and subconscious thought requires reinforcement by and non distraction of

765
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:33,519
the body's physical senses. So we're talking yoga, meditation, things

766
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:39,639
like that. So selection, construction, and decoration of enhancing your externalities.

767
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,480
So anyway, beyond its range of physical sense, the human

768
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:45,599
body can both detect and react to a wide range

769
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:50,320
of waves and fields within the possibly and possibly beyond

770
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,199
the electromagnetic spectrum. So he talks about what would have

771
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,000
been needed was for the tank to be surrounded by

772
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:01,480
a fair day cage. He's talking about Doctor Lilly's tanks

773
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,760
did not specifically identify or reduce psychological controls.

774
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: From mine wars. I don't know what Lily's tank was.

775
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:10,320
It must have been.

776
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: I wonder if it was one of those century deprivation tanks,

777
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:16,840
because I feel like those almost make you more susceptible

778
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,480
in a weird way.

779
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: So the re.

780
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: Emanation of dead bodies minus the soul of once so

781
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,519
we talked about the zombification of people. You know, I

782
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:32,480
don't know if you saw this, but Trump literally I

783
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:34,639
only brought that up because Trump literally just said that

784
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:37,119
they can bring people back from the dead, like they

785
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:38,559
have some medication that can do that.

786
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: Did you see that?

787
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:40,599
Speaker 1: No missed out?

788
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,039
Speaker 2: Nope, yeah, I posted on my discord. You check it out.

789
00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, So it's weird because I was mentioning,

790
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,360
I was like, well, I think the only way you

791
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,079
could do that is like self assembling nanoparticles that create

792
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:54,840
a digital nervous system that can reanimate dead bodies.

793
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,639
Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense.

794
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,079
Speaker 3: Peter Thiel's talked about bringing people back from the dead

795
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:02,880
as well. It just gets into this weird biblical resurrection

796
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,760
of the dead. I mean, I really do think they're

797
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,360
trying to manufacture revelation.

798
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: I think you're right, it's their blue blueprint. Crowley loved revelation.

799
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,880
He thought he was going to do it, you know.

800
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:20,039
Speaker 3: So yeah, he talks about two thousand and one in

801
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:21,559
Space Odyssey and here as well.

802
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: Monolithic and m nisis it's that.

803
00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:31,119
Speaker 3: That's why he's talking about it, because monolith and what

804
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:31,840
it represents.

805
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 2: You're familiar with what the monolithic?

806
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, black que bringing knowledge, it's the classic classic.

807
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: Uh, it's Michael Hoffman talks about it in Secret Societies

808
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,679
and Psychological Warfare, which is another book we should go

809
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,199
through because it's very similar said kind of what a

810
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,639
Kino writes about. But it's like it's like an ashlar

811
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,480
major masonry represents all this stuff. But the one that

812
00:43:56,519 --> 00:43:58,960
they use in two thousand and one is eleven feet tall.

813
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:02,679
It's dimensions of ninety three. Like it's full on like

814
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,960
the cult numerology. It's not explained in the film though,

815
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:08,599
but then if you read the book. The book is

816
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:11,400
The Key by Arthur C. Clark to the film, and

817
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,760
they exposed a lot of the occult.

818
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,119
Speaker 2: I think I think I've heard of that, Yeah, the Key. Yeah,

819
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:21,360
I'm gonna check that out. Yeah.

820
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 3: David Bowman was represented, So he's talked about Star Child

821
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,360
here and he talked about two thousand and one. Start

822
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,920
a flat, black, golden rectangular monolith the missing link power

823
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,159
to catalyze successive stages of human consciousness to evolution. So

824
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:39,519
in other words, like it's the thing that's going to

825
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:42,280
bring us to the to the next stage of man

826
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:46,119
from instinctive animal to Homo sapien and prehistory and then

827
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:49,880
from intelligent incarnation to pure mentality or star child.

828
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,199
Speaker 2: Now.

829
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 3: Bill Cooper did a great job with the two thousand

830
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,679
and one Space Odyssey. He broke that down in episode

831
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,400
one of his Mystery Babylon series and he talks about

832
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,920
how the only one that makes into the future is

833
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,159
that like synthetic bionic or synthetic biological man called how

834
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,400
you remember that?

835
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, So how is one.

836
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,159
Speaker 2: Letter away from IBM?

837
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:15,199
Speaker 3: He pointed out, like each letter is one letter.

838
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:20,639
Speaker 1: Away from yeah, yeah.

839
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 2: And then LM. That's crazy, dude.

840
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: He pointed that out, and I just thought that was

841
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,239
interesting because that's exactly what we're talking about, is this

842
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,639
synthetic biological man is the only one that can go

843
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,800
into the future.

844
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: As the next stage of the ubermensch. So that works.

845
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: As we're talking about that, what ushers that in would

846
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:44,559
be some of these crazy sacrifices, these satanic killings. This

847
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,840
accelerationist kind of stuff we talked about in the beginning,

848
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:53,000
like the San Diego killing shooters they called himself accelerationists,

849
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,000
or like the Zodiac killings back in the sixties.

850
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,199
Speaker 2: So we can get into some of that if you'd like, sure, yeah,

851
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,599
we can.

852
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,199
Speaker 1: Talk about that. Yeah, let's do that.

853
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 3: I mean, because yeah, that's most of mind Star. Again,

854
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,760
it's just more loose Siferian doctrine. It's the sales pitch

855
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,760
to follow his version of Luciferianism, Satanism, whatever you want

856
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,800
to call it. But it just mirrors everything we always read, right,

857
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,119
Just all these guys just rebrand their ideologies and they

858
00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:21,320
act like they have some special version of it.

859
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: They have to make them so special if they're going

860
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:27,199
to lead the other people in their their own version

861
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,800
of the pole. They want to become leaders, they probably

862
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,800
mean that seems to be what happened to you, is

863
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,039
that he didn't like playing second or third fiddle to

864
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,320
Levey or anybody else. So yeah, I mean, it's like

865
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,559
these branches break off and all this other stuff.

866
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:43,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

867
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,639
Speaker 3: Well, Maestro in the chat mentioned how the Seary touch weird.

868
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:52,400
The mk ultra based century deprivation techniques and now rich

869
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,760
folks are paying to have the same torture experiences. I

870
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,400
think that gets back to what we talked about, which

871
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,880
is ego death in order to merge with this hive mind.

872
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,519
A lot of these you know, rich people like Joe Rogan,

873
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,880
he's full in on this new new man. She wants

874
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,039
his ego death. He talks about that all the time.

875
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,400
AI presidents, he talks about that.

876
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: So they want to disclosure the whole suite. He is

877
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:21,159
a new age promoter. There's nothing it can't be denied.

878
00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:24,559
As long as it's like a so close to the

879
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:27,079
Epstein network, it's hard to believe he's not part of it.

880
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,920
For me, there's just all the people are there and

881
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,320
they're all this stuff too.

882
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 3: They're I know, this guy did a great This guy

883
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,320
did a great deep dive of like the UFC and

884
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,239
Dana White's connection with like Epstein and the Ari guy

885
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,000
that owns the UFC and all that.

886
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,559
Speaker 2: Insane.

887
00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:47,599
Speaker 1: There's other ones too, for Tita like, and it just

888
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:49,800
shows that a lot of these guys were mixed up

889
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,840
in the network. You know, they really were. They they were.

890
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,559
It was just like a fish swimming in the Epstein

891
00:47:56,679 --> 00:47:59,960
ocean and it's almost like who in the elite is

892
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:02,960
not involved with Epstein because they all seem to just

893
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,440
be around him or talking to him.

894
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: And I think it gets back to like to enter

895
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:09,679
into this new age, you have to be under this ideology,

896
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:12,760
and all these people are just exemplifying that they're involved.

897
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,440
They're heavily, they adhere to the ideology.

898
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: They they are.

899
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,119
Speaker 1: All in It's mystery Babylon exactly, And that's that's the

900
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:22,360
whole thing, is that it's a mystery to the outsiders,

901
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:27,440
but they're inside type people. That's probably why Rogan had

902
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,599
his career the way it was, is that he was

903
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:35,159
going to be the facilitator between the masses, the profane

904
00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:38,000
and all these other people's ideas.

905
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: Like First Deal by Disney. I mean, that's telling.

906
00:48:43,519 --> 00:48:45,159
Speaker 3: It's so funny, Like who even say on the show,

907
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,880
like could you imagine if this was some long game.

908
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,559
Speaker 2: To get people to manipulate people a certain way? And

909
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:53,280
I'm like, could you imagine actually saying that out loud?

910
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,519
Speaker 1: No? But I mean, if you go back through, it's

911
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:59,320
so many and so many of the journalists who are

912
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,760
downplaying the Epstein stuff are on his show too, So

913
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,920
it's not even the Epstein kind of network. But I

914
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,599
can make a list of all these people like yeah,

915
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:11,159
it's not important, or you know, you guys are overstating this.

916
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 3: He's a construct. That's a new one. That's Eric Eric Weinstein.

917
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,599
Epstein's a construct. What are you talking about? He's a construct?

918
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,800
He's still what.

919
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: Weinstein said, he said construct home.

920
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah he said he's like I said, he was a

921
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,320
construct before anybody would. And now everybody's saying that. I'm like,

922
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,159
nobody's saying he's a constructor. Like you guys are just

923
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:31,440
making your own reality here.

924
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they sure are not a construct man. He was

925
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,880
a longtime operator. And I've been researching some of his

926
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:42,280
ties to art and the films, Like he got entre

927
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,400
into some of these premieres. Like oftentimes there'll be a

928
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,400
public premiere, let's say in Hollywood on Hollywood Boulevard, but

929
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,000
it'll be a weekend premiere, like a week of premieres,

930
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,719
and they'll be private premiers for the actors and the

931
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,880
producers and they're close friends and Epstein be invited to

932
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,280
these and what I mean, So like some of these

933
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,360
major films that you've watched, he would go to these

934
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,960
premieres with like first rate to triple A actors. Oh yeah, Well,

935
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,360
one then I read recently was this is after his

936
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,639
conviction too. So one of the ones I read recently

937
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,400
was Lei Mian's Errob. It was pretty big production. I

938
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,639
don't know. I mean it had first rate actors, right,

939
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,960
It had Jack Hugh Jackman and some of these other people,

940
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,800
and there's a guest list and it's just like elite, elite, elite,

941
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,000
first rate actor, first rate actor, first rate actor, producer

942
00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:41,280
Jeffrey Epstein and friend, like they knew, they're just covering

943
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,239
it up. It's just like when Epstein like, there's so

944
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,039
many people who know this stuff and they're not coming forward.

945
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,159
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I saw you know. I'm sure

946
00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:49,960
you've seen this by now.

947
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,079
Speaker 3: There's like a clip from a nineteen eighty seven episode

948
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:56,280
for a TV show that talked about we got the

949
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,960
Epstein files, and they're like in a courtroom or something

950
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,760
and almost like the programming for what's going on today.

951
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,119
Speaker 1: No, they knew what he was doing for a long time.

952
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:08,599
His stuff goes back to probably nineteen eighty I don't

953
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:13,840
know how much sex trafficking, but his various stuff I

954
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,440
ran contra KASHOWGHI. These are all real stuff, you know,

955
00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:23,800
tower financial he was he was brought in at a

956
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,679
very early age, in his late twenties and thirties or something.

957
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,559
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned Hollywood. Did we talk about, you know

958
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:30,639
who his dad might have been?

959
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: No, so maybe you talked about that Epstein guy who's

960
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,559
the writer, right?

961
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: So well you had Leslie Epstein, right, who's possibly Epstein's

962
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:47,280
brother because of his dad, who was Philip st Epstein.

963
00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: I believe his name is Philip s.

964
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 3: Epstein or something, and he was in he Okay, so

965
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,360
let me back up. There's two twin brothers or two brothers.

966
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:59,320
Both Epstein's move here from Germany around World War two,

967
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,519
maybe even World War One, but they moved over here.

968
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:06,519
They go over to Hollywood, the Warner Brothers. One of

969
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:10,199
them testifies during this huge political scandal in Hollywood where

970
00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:13,599
they were saying that Communism was trying to infiltrate Hollywood.

971
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:17,039
One of the Epstein's is implicated, Philip Epstein.

972
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:18,679
Speaker 2: He dies of.

973
00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: A heart attack right after being implicated. The same year,

974
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,480
a man named Seymour Epstein pops up in the East

975
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:29,800
Coast and gets married. The last thing in his history

976
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,119
was he went to war in nineteen forty, So nineteen

977
00:52:33,159 --> 00:52:34,639
fifty two is the next thing you pick up on

978
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:37,000
that guy's history. And he's now getting married the same

979
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:40,280
year that this guy died of a heart attack. This guy,

980
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,679
Seymour Epstein moves to Coney Island and he has Jeffrey Epstein.

981
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,639
The whole idea is that he stole the identity of

982
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:50,800
Seymour Epstein faked his death because he's being implicated on

983
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,840
the Communist infiltration in Hollywood, which would make sense. Why

984
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,639
a schmo like Epstein, as Steve Bannon calls him, would

985
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:02,599
make it into the Trilateral Mission, working with the Rockefellers

986
00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:06,119
and the Rothschilds and being plugged into Hollywood.

987
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: Makes sense.

988
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,519
Speaker 3: And then of course his brother, Leslie Epstein, what is he, right,

989
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:12,559
King of the Jews, which is the book that he

990
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:14,760
had in the files, right, So it's something.

991
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:15,519
Speaker 2: He had in his possession.

992
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: They looked just.

993
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,159
Speaker 2: Alike, dude, they look like brothers. I think it's undeniable.

994
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: I think that most likely that's that's what happened, or

995
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:24,440
very close to what happened.

996
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: He had that kind of like, uh, you know, so

997
00:53:31,639 --> 00:53:35,320
nepotistic thing about Epstein. There was something about him, like

998
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,320
he got entree into places that were weird. Yeah, he

999
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,480
got into Dalton teaching, but I don't think he ever

1000
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:44,039
completed college, like that would be the predicate to get

1001
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,719
a job in that environment.

1002
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 3: Well, I believe that Barr's dad, who got him into

1003
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,880
Dalton was in the OSS quest it Yeah, okay, but

1004
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:55,280
if we know that those guys came from Germany and

1005
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,920
brought Communism over here, I believe that these guys mess

1006
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:00,880
like there's some connection with the OSS and these communistic

1007
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,840
Jews if you want to call him that, right, or

1008
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,360
these Zionists whatever you want to call him, Uh, that

1009
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:06,519
came over here and did this.

1010
00:54:06,639 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: So I think there's a big connection there.

1011
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,039
Speaker 3: And then he starts a shoe cobbler place and whatever

1012
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:13,079
it was and Coney Island just to kind of look normal.

1013
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 2: But I think there's a lot to that.

1014
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,679
Speaker 1: There's so much under the surface of Epstein that there's

1015
00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:23,559
probably stuff under the surface of his dad. Like it

1016
00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:25,480
may not be the full story, like it just may

1017
00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:31,440
be a almost like an intel legend. Like yeah, Hillary

1018
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,679
Clinton's mom her that's not her maiden name, you know,

1019
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,960
it's not Clinton, It's I mean her dad. But she

1020
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:43,159
presents him as like, oh, he's just as simple. He

1021
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,199
presents him to the left, you know, as a simple

1022
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,559
like drape maker. But he may have had a front business,

1023
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:51,880
but he was all mobbed up. Her dad mopped up.

1024
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1025
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,079
Speaker 3: I mean, we pretty much got Mari Lansky in the

1026
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:57,679
White House right now, So I mean, you know.

1027
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean this shouldn't be a surprise. Yeah,

1028
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,480
these guys have this kind of cover language, but there's

1029
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,400
so much on it. I mean, the Epstein files revealed

1030
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,480
that he didn't know the public didn't know that much

1031
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,639
about Epstein, but there's a lot to know. He had

1032
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:18,519
the most byzantine financials that I've ever seen on a person,

1033
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:24,679
with so many trusts and wills and instruments and tax

1034
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,800
havens and just crazy like it was. I don't know

1035
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,239
if anybody's even tried to break through and understand where

1036
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,639
all this money was coming from. Was moving around in

1037
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:37,079
strange ways, money was coming in from places nobody knew

1038
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:38,039
where was coming from.

1039
00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 3: Well, he had like his own version of fractional banking

1040
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,159
that he had going on, where he had you know,

1041
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,280
he would sell somebody a bond for ten thousand and

1042
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,239
then they'd have to give him like one hundred, you know,

1043
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,679
one hundred thousand back, and so he had so many

1044
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:53,119
of these out that at one point he cashed them

1045
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:54,960
all in at once, and I believe that that led

1046
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,800
there's a theory that that led to the financial crisis

1047
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,480
in O eight because of how much money he literally

1048
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:04,000
had invested in that that system there. I forgot what

1049
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:05,920
it was called, but it was like his own version

1050
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,360
of fractional reserve banking that he was doing through bonds

1051
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,760
and things like that with people.

1052
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: Interesting. I mean, it's just off the charts what he

1053
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,840
was doing. I mean he was brought in by this

1054
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,519
guy Abe Greenberg into bear Stearns, which was what's kind

1055
00:56:21,519 --> 00:56:24,159
of like the upstart finance guys and who's put in

1056
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,800
some special thing to do taxavans. So like, how do

1057
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,840
you get this right away before you're thirty? You know,

1058
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:32,599
like you have to have know somebody in half.

1059
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, insane, like you didn't earn your bones much.

1060
00:56:36,039 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: He was made partner within four years of bear Stearns.

1061
00:56:39,519 --> 00:56:41,400
I don't think he's not bright. He's smart, but I

1062
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,159
don't think he's like a genius level typers. No.

1063
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, he understands money though. That's for sure. He did did.

1064
00:56:48,199 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so somebody said the Zodiac movie was directed by

1065
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,639
David Fincher of The Fight Club.

1066
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I didn't know that he was connected.

1067
00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: That is true. That is true. And the movie features

1068
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,159
these two guys who will look into it, Tosky and

1069
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:05,480
I forgot the other guy's name, and they there, they

1070
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:09,400
followed their life. It's a long movie, but they were

1071
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,119
they were trying to find stuff. I mean, they were

1072
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:15,840
really interesting guys in themselves. If anybody knows where their

1073
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,880
papers are, let me know. It's Tosky, was t O.

1074
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:24,760
It's Italian t O, s c. H. I. But they

1075
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,280
studied a lot of different people, and they were in

1076
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,440
the whole scene like they knew all this occultism and

1077
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,440
all that stuff that was going on in San Francisco.

1078
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,239
Speaker 3: Well, I've got whenever you're ready speaking of that, I've

1079
00:57:37,239 --> 00:57:41,119
got this share screen ready for bookmarks I have on

1080
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,280
X from just a little bit of rudimentary research I

1081
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,440
was doing about Zodiac Killer and Michael Akino.

1082
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: Well, let me let me bring this up. This is

1083
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:54,079
an interview that I've done with this author, Jack Myers,

1084
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,679
which I mentioned. It's the intro and this is the

1085
00:57:56,719 --> 00:58:00,679
book Son of Zodiac. It's really interesting. High they recommend

1086
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:06,800
this is from Mike Kendall, but I'll republish this. I'll

1087
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,440
republish this interview I did, but it has it has

1088
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,239
I think it's interesting, but it has all the the

1089
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:19,480
usual suspects. Crowley processed Church of Satan. This is kind

1090
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,400
of this is crazy there he is in there. So

1091
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,039
what were our subject matter today?

1092
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: Wow?

1093
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, the time dates line up perfectly, like

1094
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,360
he went he went to San Francisco from Fort Braggan

1095
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,880
sixty eight sixty nine, joined the Church of Satan like

1096
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,960
that year, and that's like the first murder.

1097
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: You get stones throwaway as you.

1098
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: Said, from Church of Stton or Church of Satan, and

1099
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,679
also from Presidio right.

1100
00:58:48,719 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: And there was a huge Presidio scandal I think in

1101
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,239
nineteen eighty. So after these events, all this stuff came out.

1102
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,639
He was investigated. I did a show on it, like

1103
00:58:57,719 --> 00:59:00,280
it was a real federal investigation. It wasn't a oak

1104
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:05,440
and uh, I guess they didn't compile enough evidence. But yeah,

1105
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,239
it was like for real, like it was a real

1106
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,360
investigation about child abuse. It's part of the Satanic panic thing.

1107
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:12,840
But these guys are just saying.

1108
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: This, like whoa absolutely you know he met him.

1109
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:19,159
Speaker 3: I'm sure you know this at the Rosemary Baby Rosemary's

1110
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:19,840
Baby screening.

1111
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:23,519
Speaker 1: Uh and so he met Levey in sixties or something

1112
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:24,840
there Where was it screened?

1113
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:25,679
Speaker 2: Uh?

1114
00:59:25,719 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: You know, I can't recall his I forgot because I

1115
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,719
just saw it the other day where it was, but

1116
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:30,639
it was.

1117
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's kind of where I think the.

1118
00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: Roman Polanski or Roman Polanski kind of connection kind of

1119
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,400
pops up there with Sharon Tate, Charles Manson, processed Church.

1120
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:44,280
It's kind of like a weird trilateral connection there. And

1121
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,840
then honestly, just to add some credence to that, Roman

1122
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,440
Polansky can't even come back to America because you know

1123
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,960
what he did to like some thirteen year old child

1124
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:55,039
or something too.

1125
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: There were too like he was actually convicted, he skipped

1126
00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:01,239
before he got sent this this is my understanding.

1127
01:00:01,559 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: And somebody who was it, oh man, somebody was just

1128
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,440
trying to get was advocating to get him back here.

1129
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: Who was it?

1130
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:09,199
Speaker 1: Dude was probably Trump?

1131
01:00:09,199 --> 01:00:12,119
Speaker 3: Who knows it was either it was him or like

1132
01:00:12,199 --> 01:00:14,239
Kubrick or like somebody else like that where it was

1133
01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:17,039
like a weird name where I was like what whenever

1134
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:19,000
he was alive maybe, But there's a.

1135
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:24,519
Speaker 1: Tie of Polanski's attorneys to Epstein there in the files

1136
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,719
in it's just the overlap is off the charts, and

1137
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,320
that was kind of Polanski's thing, Like he moved to

1138
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,239
France and apparently abuses girls over there as well. There's

1139
01:00:33,239 --> 01:00:36,760
a whole like series of research about the girls that

1140
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,280
he's been around in France, really young girls, fifteen year old,

1141
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,159
sixteen year olds. But here was a Keno. Seventy one

1142
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:46,800
year after serving in Vietnam. A Kino was already ranked

1143
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,760
as Magister Caverns at level four within the Church of

1144
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,920
Satan hierarchy. He was also editor of its publication, The

1145
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,719
Cloven Hoof, and would later sit on its governing council

1146
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,840
of nine in nineteen seventy three, a to the previously

1147
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,960
unattained rank of Magistrate Templey. He had become, by all accounts,

1148
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,039
of Love's right hand man, and Aquino saw his life

1149
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:10,840
and mission as one of destroying the influence of conventional

1150
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,599
religion and human affairs.

1151
01:01:13,159 --> 01:01:15,159
Speaker 2: And we saw the excerpt of that in Mindstar, where

1152
01:01:15,159 --> 01:01:17,119
he's kind of saying religion has no power.

1153
01:01:17,159 --> 01:01:19,159
Speaker 3: They don't even know anything about the afterlife or how

1154
01:01:19,199 --> 01:01:20,239
to experience anything.

1155
01:01:21,239 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: Oh.

1156
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: I remember Giermo del Toro. He advocated for Roman Polanski

1157
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,400
to come back. Wow, And he created the Frankenstein movie.

1158
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,679
He's been on Joe Rogan a few times, so we've

1159
01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:34,239
got this connection popping up again.

1160
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: Wow. Harrison Ford, Woody Allen, amongst others, also wanted him

1161
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,079
to come and be you know, come back without being

1162
01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:45,039
in trouble. So that's a little telling.

1163
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: Wow. And there's like there's him making his connection a

1164
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,679
Kino to Croley. He's crole and of Horus nineteen sixty six,

1165
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:03,320
Leave and Satan nineteen seventy five, Keno and up Set

1166
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,280
nineteen seventy five.

1167
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: Wow.

1168
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: Wow, that's what the book of coming forth by night.

1169
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,920
So they're always trying to tie themselves back to Curly Yeah,

1170
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,039
almost any and even Levey.

1171
01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Maga. I mean, look at you know, the

1172
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:17,840
White House.

1173
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: They repost Drake's album, the sixty sixty six Hands Sign, right,

1174
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,039
But who's Drake signed to? He signed to ovoh, like otoh,

1175
01:02:26,119 --> 01:02:29,159
it's like one letter off from Oteo and it's you

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know a lot of weird Crowley and stuff that goes

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on with.

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Speaker 2: Maga in general. So they were just posting double O.

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Speaker 3: Seven the other day, you know, just to add to it.

1180
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Speaker 1: So there he is this guy Myers cover bind Bore.

1181
01:02:41,639 --> 01:02:45,719
So it's in this book too, son of Wow.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Keno settled into a life of teaching political science

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at the Golden Gate.

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01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: I did read this.

1185
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Speaker 3: I found this online and was reading this the other

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01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,400
day while I was trying to this is the only

1187
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,719
piece of information you can find some good research on

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01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,519
regarding him and the Zodiac killings.

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Speaker 1: And this is what I covered too. Is like on

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this other thing about Aquino, a federal grand jury spent

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ten months in San Francisco investing the allegations of children

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01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:18,639
sixty youngest had been bruised at Pretty Presidio and that

1193
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,480
was one of the killings of the the guy in

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01:03:21,519 --> 01:03:23,920
the cab and one of the Zodiac killings was killed

1195
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,440
like two blocks. I mentioned that earlier.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Gero del Toro is not on Rogan, but Rogan

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01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,159
talks about his movies a lot.

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Speaker 2: He just loves his movies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I did misspoke there. He hasn't been on it,

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01:03:34,119 --> 01:03:37,679
but Rogan loves his movies. Uh yeah, but he definitely

1201
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,679
was the one who advocated for him to come back crazy.

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01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,039
Speaker 1: If I can get this this higher.

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01:03:44,599 --> 01:03:47,119
Speaker 3: But speaking of Tarantino, I mean he made the movie

1204
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:50,239
about the Charles Manson killings, you know, a crazy rendition

1205
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,920
of that too, right. I wonder how much he knows

1206
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,400
about the background of Roman Polanski, Like he's in that world,

1207
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,679
you know what I mean, He's gotta know.

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01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gotta know. I don't think you can play

1209
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,119
that dumb? Can I bring up your thing though?

1210
01:04:04,519 --> 01:04:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah here, let me pull it back up here.

1211
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:08,840
I'm ready, all right.

1212
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that son of Zodiac checked out that book. It's good. Yeah,

1213
01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:13,760
and I'll repost that interview.

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01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: Did so? Michael A Keno?

1215
01:04:17,239 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 3: Uh, there's a picture of him and a sketch of

1216
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,719
the Zodiac Killer next to his face. It looks very similar.

1217
01:04:23,719 --> 01:04:26,119
I don't know if you ever wear glasses, but looks

1218
01:04:26,199 --> 01:04:29,599
very similar. It almost looks like I pointed this out

1219
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:32,400
the other day. It almost looks like the guy who

1220
01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:35,280
robbed the plane and jumped off to right.

1221
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,079
Speaker 1: It's so God, what's.

1222
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,599
Speaker 3: His name, dB Cooper? He kind of looks like dB

1223
01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:42,639
Cooper as well. If you look at the sketch at him,

1224
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,800
it looks just like a Keno. Wouldn't that be crazy.

1225
01:04:46,719 --> 01:04:47,559
Speaker 1: It would be crazy.

1226
01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: Guys just involved in everything. I don't know anything about,

1227
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,920
like if that's you know, the case. I'm just thinking

1228
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,559
about how wild I wouldn't be surprised though it talks

1229
01:04:57,559 --> 01:05:00,960
about figuring Black has a real name. Is Michael Akino,

1230
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:04,320
as the story goes as Satan pumping Vietnam veteran MK

1231
01:05:04,519 --> 01:05:07,679
ultra programmer for the CIA was the person who was

1232
01:05:07,719 --> 01:05:09,239
in charge of not only the finders.

1233
01:05:09,559 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

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01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true, but that'd be crazy too,

1235
01:05:12,719 --> 01:05:14,880
but also terrorized kids at his home for the help

1236
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,400
of his wife, Lilith Thikino.

1237
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Speaker 2: The Presidio cases.

1238
01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:21,039
Speaker 3: What they're referring to is he able to control the

1239
01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:24,159
resources of the NSA, which includes, but is not limited to,

1240
01:05:24,719 --> 01:05:29,400
phone and email tappings, computer monitoring, satellite surveillance, and may

1241
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:34,679
have control over elf an electromagnetic brain manipulation. This is

1242
01:05:34,679 --> 01:05:39,320
from the MP and My Patriots Network. I don't know

1243
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,639
how legit that is, but you can find this link

1244
01:05:41,679 --> 01:05:43,760
and kind of read more about it here as well.

1245
01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: Tolkien Studies says Tarantino said we should bring Polanski back

1246
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:52,760
on STARN So.

1247
01:05:51,239 --> 01:05:56,719
Speaker 2: There you go. Wow. So this person kind of goes

1248
01:05:56,719 --> 01:05:57,639
into it a little bit.

1249
01:05:59,199 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: I've heard of Douglas Dwayne Deetrich. I know he said

1250
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,599
he worked under a Kino like I've seen that guy.

1251
01:06:04,599 --> 01:06:07,000
He's independent. I don't know if he's still around. Do

1252
01:06:07,079 --> 01:06:10,480
you know if he's still around, Jimmy, if Dwain de

1253
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,280
Trich is around, because I've arned vaguely, I mean ten

1254
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,840
years ago or five years ago, remember hearing his name.

1255
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,480
I don't know if he's on social media or what.

1256
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 3: So it talks about, uh, nine months after the phone

1257
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,639
call from the Zodiac saying body will be found in

1258
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:32,000
a church, the body of Arles Perry is found.

1259
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: Seventy four to so that the timing is incredible. Oh yeah,

1260
01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:40,920
that's Crowley's birthday and it's night in the church and

1261
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:41,599
all this stuff.

1262
01:06:42,199 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 3: M So it says, I have another reason why it

1263
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:51,079
is Michaelaquino due to the Arles Parley murder call her name.

1264
01:06:51,199 --> 01:06:53,039
Zodiac says a body will be found in a church.

1265
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:57,760
Apparently it was reference to Daily City or San Matteo,

1266
01:06:58,039 --> 01:07:00,000
which is very close to where he was, I believe.

1267
01:07:01,159 --> 01:07:03,559
Speaker 1: And then well there's a there's actually an a keinot

1268
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:05,760
connection to Stanford because his mom went there.

1269
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: Wow.

1270
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: No, Stanford the university. Okay, okay, So back when it

1271
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:15,519
was like a literal farm, like now it's like this

1272
01:07:15,719 --> 01:07:19,760
prestigious international university. It wasn't always like that. It got

1273
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,480
more and more prestigious over time. But back when she went,

1274
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:26,519
it was literally that center campus. It was like a

1275
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,639
square or a quad and the church is in the

1276
01:07:29,679 --> 01:07:30,280
center there.

1277
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: Wow, that was pretty much in.

1278
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: It was on a farmer was on the Stanford family.

1279
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 3: I mean literally, you have the connection with his mom

1280
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,599
right there then, because that's where this chick was found.

1281
01:07:39,639 --> 01:07:43,599
The Stanford Memorial Church right right right, that's insane.

1282
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:47,119
Speaker 1: It's totally insane. It's a really nice church. I used

1283
01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:50,039
to live there, so I used to, Oh, really there

1284
01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:50,440
all the time.

1285
01:07:50,519 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. You was in California? Now are you?

1286
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: Are you in I'm in La Okay. I actually knew

1287
01:07:56,719 --> 01:08:02,199
the story of Arles Perry. She worked as a phone

1288
01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:05,960
person for a law firm, and I knew the I

1289
01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:08,840
grew up with the manager of that law office who

1290
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,920
knew the whole Like, so when they I think it

1291
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,119
was Blaze Valentine Incline at the time or something like that,

1292
01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:18,439
or Blaze Valentine, like she worked there I knew those

1293
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,479
people knew I knew Blaze, and it was just kind

1294
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:27,039
of like her death was kind of and I've written

1295
01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:29,199
about this. There's an article about this that murder of

1296
01:08:29,239 --> 01:08:31,960
Berl was very everritt. But her death was kind of

1297
01:08:32,039 --> 01:08:36,800
like a spectral thing around that area back when Palo

1298
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,279
Watto was much a smaller town. Now it's like internationally known,

1299
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:43,279
but back before Silicon Valley, you know, it was kind

1300
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:45,119
of like, what the hell happened when we just don't

1301
01:08:45,159 --> 01:08:48,079
want to talk about it's too dark. He's never saw

1302
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:50,880
I mean, it's never sawd They had the story the

1303
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:55,079
Sons of Sam or whatever, but that guy killed himself.

1304
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,079
So the guy who was like it ends up in

1305
01:08:58,079 --> 01:09:02,199
this documentary, who was security guard. It's never a proper trial.

1306
01:09:03,319 --> 01:09:04,680
It's all very strange.

1307
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it goes too, because that's what happened

1308
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:11,000
with Keeno and the Presidiokay, throw it out. Uh so

1309
01:09:11,079 --> 01:09:13,439
you know about this obviously the book Ultimate Evil, uh

1310
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,479
you know, Son of Sam claims the Satanic Network it.

1311
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: Starts started interrupt again, but the Ultimate Evil starts with

1312
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,279
the death of Arvist Perry. That's the way the book

1313
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:26,560
is bookended. So what the heck happened? And this thing

1314
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,920
in Berklewood, so I said, earlier sent me and like

1315
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,039
you can check my Patreon. He talked to me, who

1316
01:09:33,039 --> 01:09:35,600
I've done shows on Burkwoods too, like a mind of

1317
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:40,199
a murderer. But he was saying something like he knew

1318
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:43,039
something about it. But he doesn't. He's not that voluble

1319
01:09:43,119 --> 01:09:46,199
about this stuff, you know, he seems to. I mean,

1320
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:48,560
he was stabbed literally you can see the scar on

1321
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,960
his throat, like somebody tried to kill him in jail,

1322
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,239
like really off him, like he had like sixty stitches

1323
01:09:54,359 --> 01:09:54,720
or something.

1324
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,520
Speaker 2: And he's out now, isn't he like a lot?

1325
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,039
Speaker 1: No? No, no, he's never getting out.

1326
01:09:58,359 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know why I thought he's a lot.

1327
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:04,359
Speaker 1: If he became he was actually a practicing Satanist all

1328
01:10:04,399 --> 01:10:07,279
the way up until nineteen eighty eight. So even after

1329
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,800
wow the and he's this is his own admission, he

1330
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,239
was a practical He would do rituals and all this stuff.

1331
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,399
Speaker 2: When did the ultimate ego come out?

1332
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,039
Speaker 1: Seventies I think the seventy or eighties, I don't remember really,

1333
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:22,880
But then he had it, like he became born again Christian.

1334
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,960
He carries around a Bible. He renounced all that other

1335
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:27,720
earlier stuff.

1336
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 3: I mean, he literally says that Satanic networks connect you know,

1337
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,880
Manson case and the Peri murder case. But that's crazy

1338
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,600
he would say that while he's still a Satanist.

1339
01:10:39,039 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 2: It's wild.

1340
01:10:40,199 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 3: Yes, that must be the connection with the you know,

1341
01:10:43,039 --> 01:10:45,319
because obviously he says that, so there's not much he

1342
01:10:45,359 --> 01:10:49,159
can find solid, you know, smoking gun wise, he was.

1343
01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: Part of a smaller Satanic group that kind of melded

1344
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,840
in with the Processed Church. According to him, like he

1345
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,920
was on some group of like twenty one, and then

1346
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,239
they got even bigger and they hung out at that park,

1347
01:11:00,399 --> 01:11:06,319
the a cult park, which is somebody probably Chuck remember

1348
01:11:06,319 --> 01:11:08,479
the name was. It was in the Bronx.

1349
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 2: I can't recall, but I know what you I remember

1350
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,720
hearing about that one.

1351
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 1: And the Tie was like involved in creating the Federal Serve.

1352
01:11:16,279 --> 01:11:18,000
It was his, it was his park, and it was

1353
01:11:18,039 --> 01:11:20,479
a cult. Man. There's all kinds of a cult statuaries

1354
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:21,119
and stuff there.

1355
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 3: Well, that's crazy because you got the Kirk's family who's

1356
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,439
also involved with that, like you know, the UH designing

1357
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,279
the dollars and stuff like that, working with the FED.

1358
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,279
And then also that weird connection where you see the

1359
01:11:32,279 --> 01:11:35,560
picture of them in alistair or a Kino's house.

1360
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: It's just crazy, crazy stuff, unbelievable.

1361
01:11:42,119 --> 01:11:44,199
Speaker 2: So this is kind of there's another one here.

1362
01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 3: I'm not going to click on it, but ninety two

1363
01:11:46,039 --> 01:11:49,920
Dave Emery show where he reads Harry Martin Zodiac Killer

1364
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:54,680
conspiracy article. It talks about Temple set A, Keno Hillside Strangler.

1365
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,159
That's a good one to check out. Harry Martin Zodiac

1366
01:11:59,279 --> 01:12:03,359
Killer can be read by Dave m Roy, so that

1367
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,640
might be a good one to check out. And then

1368
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,600
of course the insignias and the stuff he uses very

1369
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,479
similar to like the O nine A and then you

1370
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,000
have the Zodiac Killer insignia. So that's kind of the

1371
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:18,079
connection with like all this weird the symbols and the

1372
01:12:18,319 --> 01:12:27,439
cryptography style, you know, approach. And then of course he

1373
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:32,199
was in the Order of the Trapezoid, which had a

1374
01:12:32,199 --> 01:12:36,520
lot of astrological zodiac kind of symbology involved with it

1375
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:36,960
as well.

1376
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: And I've done a lot of stuff on processed church guys.

1377
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,399
I've wrote about the processed Church and Children of the Beast,

1378
01:12:45,079 --> 01:12:47,359
I've done all this prairie stuff. I've done shows on

1379
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,520
that hot Wood and then Dana Dudaw has done a

1380
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,760
lot of stuff on the modern process church.

1381
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that the David McGowan programmed to Kill stuff.

1382
01:12:56,359 --> 01:12:57,640
I think that might have been you that I heard

1383
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,079
about it from, and it Oh man, I mean I

1384
01:13:00,119 --> 01:13:02,119
couldn't have I'm so glad I couldn't have done that

1385
01:13:02,199 --> 01:13:05,439
Jasper series without reading that and understanding that first. And

1386
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,079
of course even the Epstein situation, Like you can't understand

1387
01:13:08,119 --> 01:13:10,399
Epstein till you go read David McGowan's book, you know,

1388
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:15,640
describing this satanic pedophile group, elite group that permeates the

1389
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,000
intelligence services, these cults and everywhere, and.

1390
01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 2: It's ever you know, with the sex trafficking, et cetera.

1391
01:13:23,239 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 3: And it really just lays a lot of credence to

1392
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,239
this idea that it's a multi generational society of people.

1393
01:13:32,079 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy when you look where he lived in

1394
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,640
Central Park, Like he was Central Park East, but like

1395
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,800
you could walk straight west and like go buy the

1396
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,760
carousel that's at the end of catching the Rye and

1397
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:55,119
then walk over to the Dakota, which is where Rosemary's Baby.

1398
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 3: I say, Rosemary's Baby.

1399
01:13:55,079 --> 01:13:56,039
Speaker 1: Full up a map.

1400
01:13:56,359 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy. It's the Hub right there in New York.

1401
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,000
Sure is that's by Hudson right over there, because I

1402
01:14:03,079 --> 01:14:04,000
know that's where Crowley was.

1403
01:14:04,039 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: He was by Hudson, he was he was on one

1404
01:14:07,159 --> 01:14:13,279
Washington Place, so he's definitely South Manhattan at a very

1405
01:14:13,279 --> 01:14:16,920
swanky hotel. Of course, that's where he had the Alamantra working,

1406
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,760
where he saw the Gray Alien, about the Gray Alien

1407
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,640
before before anything and really wild.

1408
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 3: Tell me a little bit about the coming forth by night.

1409
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,159
I haven't had a lot of study into that. I'm

1410
01:14:28,199 --> 01:14:30,439
curious about what that like. Give me a little summation

1411
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,319
of what that is. You know, obviously, as we went

1412
01:14:33,359 --> 01:14:36,560
through Mine Wars, Fine far Mine start has kind of

1413
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,960
gotten into the mind of like what he thinks and

1414
01:14:39,239 --> 01:14:40,079
his ideology.

1415
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 2: What does that kind of get into.

1416
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,560
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't at seventy The Dakota's on seventy two

1417
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:53,000
West and Epstein's on seventy one East, so literally you

1418
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:57,000
could just like literally almost goes straight west from his

1419
01:14:57,159 --> 01:15:02,960
place and walk into the to strawberry fields and all

1420
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:09,760
this other stuff like sequences. Where where's the carouseling I

1421
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,359
find anyone? Anyway, I It's been a while since I've

1422
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,479
I've read I'll have to reread coming forth their original

1423
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,680
coming forth forth by Night is a very long book.

1424
01:15:21,279 --> 01:15:24,000
It's not like some kind of you know, pamphlet or

1425
01:15:24,039 --> 01:15:24,720
something like that.

1426
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,119
Speaker 2: It's like his Satanic Bible essentially. That's what I thought.

1427
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I judge Abo, how he writes judgement, how

1428
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,039
he writes off these books. I'm sure it's not easy

1429
01:15:34,279 --> 01:15:36,560
and easy breakdown, you know what I mean.

1430
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: He he believed that it was a channeled book, so

1431
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,079
that puts him into kind of like this full sphere

1432
01:15:44,119 --> 01:15:47,520
of like Crawley channeling, uh, the Book of the Law

1433
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:52,199
from from a Wasp. So I remember that pretty well.

1434
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,640
But I'd have to do another show on that coming

1435
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:56,359
forth by Night.

1436
01:15:56,439 --> 01:16:00,239
Speaker 2: Then yeah, we should. I'll look into it too. We should.

1437
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:03,119
Why not? You know, kind of a natural segue into

1438
01:16:03,119 --> 01:16:04,039
that sometime.

1439
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: The park that I'm thinking about, I'll find it right here.

1440
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,640
It's up north. It's called.

1441
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,359
Speaker 2: A Keno is in the Zodiac movie with Glin Hall?

1442
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:17,279
Is that true?

1443
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:18,039
Speaker 1: Jill and Hall?

1444
01:16:18,159 --> 01:16:22,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, Jillen Hall, is that true? Get out

1445
01:16:22,319 --> 01:16:22,560
of here?

1446
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 3: Is Doppelganger? Is the man with the basement? Get out

1447
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,880
of here? Is Michael Aquino in there? Or are you

1448
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,239
saying that it looks like is.

1449
01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: A depiction of Michael Achino or in there.

1450
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:34,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look it up.

1451
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: Van Portland Park was one of the places that they

1452
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,279
would go to, but there was another one call I

1453
01:16:44,279 --> 01:16:45,760
think Overlooked the River.

1454
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,359
Speaker 3: It must have been a depiction of them or something,

1455
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,840
I guess because they're saying it's the person with the basement.

1456
01:16:53,399 --> 01:16:55,159
Speaker 2: I have to go back and look watch that movie.

1457
01:16:55,359 --> 01:16:57,359
Speaker 1: We'll have to watch Zodiac again.

1458
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,279
Speaker 2: It's been a while, but yeah, I mean it's a

1459
01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:01,439
long movie too. There's a lot there.

1460
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 1: The one of the interesting things about Toshi is that

1461
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:13,039
they keyed into one of these like hardcore hypnotists as

1462
01:17:13,079 --> 01:17:16,119
a possible guy who was the Zodiac and that is

1463
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,920
William Joseph Bryant Jr. They actually had files on that guy,

1464
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,239
and he's like totally an MK ultra doctor man. He's

1465
01:17:24,279 --> 01:17:25,000
all over the place.

1466
01:17:26,319 --> 01:17:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about the bald the big bald guy,

1467
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,880
right that the Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah and that And

1468
01:17:35,039 --> 01:17:37,720
you've seen the like documentary recently that came out about

1469
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,199
how they think they solved who the Zodiac killer was

1470
01:17:40,279 --> 01:17:42,039
just kind of nip it in the butt. Yeah, he's

1471
01:17:42,039 --> 01:17:44,000
just some random guy that like family guy.

1472
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,199
Speaker 1: It made a good show. Yeah, the guy had all

1473
01:17:47,279 --> 01:17:49,760
kinds of elements to him that looked like he was dead.

1474
01:17:51,279 --> 01:17:55,039
I don't know, there's other killings. Like I've done shows

1475
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,720
around the zodiac and like some people like put the

1476
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,840
body counted over thirty people like be could be associated.

1477
01:18:01,399 --> 01:18:06,720
So some of these there could be other, you know,

1478
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,680
other victims that weren't put in the original school.

1479
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,239
Speaker 3: M here I've got I've got this basement scene. They

1480
01:18:13,239 --> 01:18:16,520
were talking about if you want to like play anything

1481
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,720
on this not on YouTube, Okay, you know, worries.

1482
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:26,279
Speaker 1: It's just that I have so much problem I have

1483
01:18:26,359 --> 01:18:28,279
so under Meyer Park is the name of the park.

1484
01:18:29,279 --> 01:18:31,199
I just have so much problem with YouTube. They just

1485
01:18:32,119 --> 01:18:34,880
they'll drop it a drop of background music. I showed

1486
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,720
this video of this girl in the background. Music was

1487
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,640
playing the background. They said it was a copyright.

1488
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: I know. I'm quick about that, dude.

1489
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 3: They'll play an advertisement with music on it. I'm like,

1490
01:18:46,279 --> 01:18:47,800
before I can even get to the video that I'm

1491
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,319
trying to show, they'll play an advertisement.

1492
01:18:49,359 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 2: It's like, got music. You gotta be vigilant with that stuff.

1493
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, no worries, but yeah, check out the

1494
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,000
basement scene with Zodiac Killer.

1495
01:18:57,039 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: They got a clip of it, and that.

1496
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 3: Could Our buddy in the chat says that, uh, that

1497
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:02,239
depicts a Keno.

1498
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: Interesting. Let's see satan is botch job Newtown one displaying

1499
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,039
how does that fit into the Luigi Big Farmer inside?

1500
01:19:15,079 --> 01:19:19,000
He went into Central Park and left his backpack at

1501
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:23,439
the carousel at the place where catching the rise finished.

1502
01:19:24,279 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 2: Insane.

1503
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's totally unbelievable. Like he was, he did something.

1504
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,560
He shot the guy outside. I think it was south

1505
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,920
of the park. He was, uh, he was. He he

1506
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,399
went north into the park, but I think he did

1507
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:43,159
something on like Seventh Street or something like that. And

1508
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:45,760
you have to remember Fifth Avenue is like this really

1509
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:51,239
tony part of Manhattan, and that's what it's like, really

1510
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:53,399
one of the nicer things. That's where Jeff lived. It's

1511
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:59,760
fifth and seventy first good the you know, upper level stuff.

1512
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 3: So a natural segue out of this as we kind

1513
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:09,399
of wrap it up soon, Dugan Alexander Dugan, I mentioned

1514
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,119
him to you, and you do really great research. I really,

1515
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,640
I know you got a lot on your plate obviously already,

1516
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,159
but in anytime you get a chance, check out, Dugan,

1517
01:20:18,279 --> 01:20:19,560
I'd love to do a show with you on it.

1518
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 2: But it's interesting.

1519
01:20:21,079 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 3: There's some stuff I have here written down, got my

1520
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,079
analog notes, my schizoe notes here.

1521
01:20:28,399 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 1: Brian is rumored according to Todd Wood, Brian is rumored

1522
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,600
to be the Grand Chin Goon. They keep talking about that.

1523
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:39,239
Manson talked about Manson new hypnotism, and there's actually hypnotism

1524
01:20:39,319 --> 01:20:44,079
in the in the Zodiac case, they hypnotize one of

1525
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,000
the victims, not the victims, but one of the witnesses

1526
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,600
much like man I'm one of the interesting things about

1527
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:55,880
Brian that he was the doctor for the main Kasabian

1528
01:20:57,319 --> 01:21:00,199
so he's attached to Manson and Zodiac like you not,

1529
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,079
I'll bring up this article to blow your mind.

1530
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 3: So they're hypnotizing fake memories into there so way you

1531
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,760
can make sure it doesn't tie back to the Kino

1532
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:09,800
Maybe I don't know.

1533
01:21:10,319 --> 01:21:12,279
Speaker 1: You just don't know. Like that's the whole thing is,

1534
01:21:12,319 --> 01:21:16,399
like they're injecting these insiders much like Jolly West, like

1535
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:17,520
very sus people.

1536
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we know they can replace memories. I mean

1537
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,520
that's the thing. It's it's been proven through hypnosis, but

1538
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,880
back then they were doing it, you know, under and they.

1539
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,279
Speaker 1: Can convince you you're wrong. They do with these techniques.

1540
01:21:28,319 --> 01:21:32,439
The FBI does it all this stuff. Yeah, this article, yeah,

1541
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,560
oh yeah, it's real. Anybody could find this article, I mean,

1542
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,159
this full article. I'm going to try to find it myself.

1543
01:21:39,239 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, send me that sometimes I haven't found.

1544
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: This is from January eleventh, nineteen seventy National Tattler. I

1545
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,359
didn't even know this thing existed. It's page fifteen. But

1546
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,520
super secret black Magic den also linked to Zodiac Killer.

1547
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:57,079
And these are the pictures of these other people I

1548
01:21:57,079 --> 01:21:59,000
don't even know, but they're in the Tate murders. But

1549
01:21:59,119 --> 01:22:04,720
Nancy Pittman, Diannah Bluestein, and Rachel Morse. They were members

1550
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,000
of a desert tribe. And not impicating that these are

1551
01:22:08,079 --> 01:22:11,199
like unknown people. But on the bottom there is Kasabian

1552
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:17,800
and her attorney is or was associated or was William

1553
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,279
Jennings Bryan. And here's even the article even mentions him

1554
01:22:21,359 --> 01:22:25,479
in this thing. It says under indictment for Los Angeles murders,

1555
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,359
say they were hypnotized by Manson when he ordered them

1556
01:22:28,359 --> 01:22:31,600
to kill everyone in the Taytan Labyanka Holmes, doctor William

1557
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,000
Jennings Brian. They got it wrong. It's William Joseph Bryan.

1558
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:39,079
It's a common mistake. Doctor William Jennings Brian, the third

1559
01:22:39,279 --> 01:22:45,399
Los Angeles hypnotist and president of the American Institute of Hypnosis, contends, however,

1560
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,600
that Manson's followers were brainwashed through a combination of drugs,

1561
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:53,840
erotic rituals, and cult leaders, powerful and persuasive personality, and

1562
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,760
months of virtual isolation from normal society. Doctor Brian has

1563
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,640
been retained by attorneys from miss Acts, so she's a

1564
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,319
full Satanist like Atkins is part of. She is a

1565
01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:10,520
member of the Church of Satan. Pictures of her dancing

1566
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,479
retained by attorneys for Missus Atkins to testify on her

1567
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:20,000
behalf when the family comes to trial next February. He's

1568
01:23:20,119 --> 01:23:22,920
also involved with Kassabian. He's right there on the bottom right.

1569
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,079
It's so crazy.

1570
01:23:24,279 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 3: And the Processed Church is literally located in Hayde Ashbury

1571
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,760
where the Hayte Ashbury Clinic was for the MK Ultra stuff.

1572
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:37,159
Speaker 1: And there's literally like Jolly west Is running some kind

1573
01:23:37,159 --> 01:23:42,079
of hippie commune house there. That's crazy. A desire to

1574
01:23:42,079 --> 01:23:44,640
attain Manson's level of mysticism on what she claimed to

1575
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,119
have to be both Satan and God may have been

1576
01:23:47,399 --> 01:23:52,600
inspired as followers to emulate his teachings. Staine said, yeah,

1577
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:56,359
so killing a ritual. Fourteen process members who've been in

1578
01:23:56,359 --> 01:23:58,520
the United States, I legally since early last year fled

1579
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,520
to London when Scotland Yard began invesigating at kidnapping case

1580
01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:05,640
in which the victim was tortured with electroshockgo very nice.

1581
01:24:06,359 --> 01:24:08,800
So there's a lot of stuff he researchers have like

1582
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,720
overlooked on the stuff. But yeah, this article again National Tatler.

1583
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,960
I don't know if it's on newspapers dot com. I'll

1584
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,439
check one something with us.

1585
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,159
Speaker 3: And so was it confirmed that Sharon Tate was a

1586
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:20,279
part of the Processed Church?

1587
01:24:20,319 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 2: Is that like a thing that was confirmed?

1588
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 3: Because I thought Dave McGowan in his book talked about

1589
01:24:25,119 --> 01:24:28,000
satanic imagery like almost like they were doing witchcraft that

1590
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:33,239
Sharon Tate house like before them that didn't have anything

1591
01:24:33,279 --> 01:24:36,239
to do with the Manson stuff, like they were involved

1592
01:24:36,279 --> 01:24:38,680
in it separate from the Manson murder.

1593
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,039
Speaker 2: Is that something real there that I read or there's.

1594
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,560
Speaker 1: No doubt that she was kind of in the orbit

1595
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,560
of which the movie she was doing was a light

1596
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,520
of the eye or something like that. The eye of

1597
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,079
the thing where she literally plays a witch and she

1598
01:24:54,199 --> 01:24:57,560
repeats a lot of stuff, and she is pictured like

1599
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:04,119
the two main Wickan strains after Crowley are called Gardenarian

1600
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:09,520
and Alexandrian or Alexanders. But there there's these two kind

1601
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,720
of main branches and she's pictured with that guy, this

1602
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,720
kind of main witch. You said he got his information

1603
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,000
with Crowley. It's just him attempting to tie himself to

1604
01:25:18,039 --> 01:25:21,119
Crowley in my opinion. But there's like pictures of him

1605
01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:24,039
with with her with Alexander's doing witchcraft stuff.

1606
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,239
Speaker 2: Do they spell Alexander with the Z.

1607
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,079
Speaker 1: No, it's Alexandrian, So it's like the almost like the city,

1608
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,279
but it's Sanders is his last name. You have pictures

1609
01:25:35,279 --> 01:25:40,720
of this year. I have a I have a good

1610
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:45,359
video of col Basis some of the stuff that Alexanders things.

1611
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:50,479
This is what he looked like. Again, you can probably

1612
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:55,239
just you can probably just look him up on the

1613
01:25:55,279 --> 01:25:58,920
pictures of Tate and him are probably online. This is

1614
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:04,159
what he looked like Gardner. It's a little different, but mhmm.

1615
01:26:05,319 --> 01:26:06,920
His all the ritual stuff.

1616
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 2: That's uh, looks like a fun looks like a fun guy.

1617
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some really creepy rituals that he filmed with,

1618
01:26:17,239 --> 01:26:27,439
like the golden masks and torches and stuff, really hardcore stuff. Yeah. Here,

1619
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:34,399
here it is, here he is, so let me see.

1620
01:26:35,279 --> 01:26:38,960
So that's the guy that sanders And here is Tate

1621
01:26:39,119 --> 01:26:46,119
with him, Magic Circle, all the writings, all that.

1622
01:26:46,119 --> 01:26:51,079
Speaker 2: Stuff, and and who's more moo art.

1623
01:26:51,039 --> 01:26:56,159
Speaker 1: I have the devil, that's right? More? Uh. Grimston's real

1624
01:26:56,239 --> 01:26:56,960
name was more.

1625
01:26:59,159 --> 01:27:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert.

1626
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,520
Speaker 1: Robert's real name is Robert Moore.

1627
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 2: He denied knowing de Grimston, but said he had met Moore.

1628
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 3: You're looking at him. Manson told me Moore and I

1629
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,720
are one and the same. What the hell, dude, how's

1630
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,520
he gonna say? He doesn't know to Grimston, but he

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knows More. He's the same person. He It talks about

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just how Manson was involved with the Processed Church for

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a while, and obviously that's kind of that connection with them.

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And I just don't think I mean, dude, yeah, I

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think there's got to be a deeper connection with that.

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I just can't look past it. But I mean, obviously

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01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:32,760
there isn't a super smoking gun, or else it would

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01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,239
have been found by now. I mean, the best you

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01:27:35,279 --> 01:27:37,680
get is just the locality of the of the things.

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You know.

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Speaker 1: Here's another picture of her, An Sanders from something Sharon

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Tates Sex Magic of My Witch King. So there he

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is in the center, and I guess that's her.

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Speaker 3: So some of the original newspapers did depict that she

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01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,039
was involved in some of that stuff and they got

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01:27:57,119 --> 01:27:59,680
rid of it, if I recall, right, Yeah, that she was.

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01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 1: There's allegations of a lot of that Polanski was filming stuff,

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01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,399
and I think that there the cops had them, had

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01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,920
the evidence, and I don't know what happened to that,

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01:28:10,359 --> 01:28:11,319
Like I don't really know.

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01:28:13,359 --> 01:28:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.

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01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we're gonna have less and less of

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01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,960
this information as it goes on, because now you know,

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01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,920
Google is going to switch over to AI fully.

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01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: Now do you see that it'll help.

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01:28:23,039 --> 01:28:25,119
Speaker 1: It'll all be like suppressed.

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01:28:25,119 --> 01:28:27,520
Speaker 2: Man talk about memory holding, right, you know, now.

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01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,079
Speaker 1: In the worst way, you got everybody you got to have. Eventually,

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01:28:31,159 --> 01:28:35,680
what will be interesting is that people's external hard drives

1660
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,119
and the information on their external hard drives will actually

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01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:42,840
increase in value and become more important because it won't

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01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:46,520
the information won't have been tampered by AI or somebody

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01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,319
tinkering around, and I've already seen things happen because a

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01:28:50,319 --> 01:28:52,960
lot of the old pictures of Crowley have been tampered

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01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,840
with or aied, and a lot of people don't know

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01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,079
because like, I researched it before A. I'm so freaking old, right,

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01:28:59,119 --> 01:29:03,079
I researched stuff before AI. All right, I'll actually bring

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01:29:03,159 --> 01:29:06,600
up my book about the visual study of Crowley and

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01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,880
people can see the AI pictures because I actually was

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01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:14,159
watching a Candice Owns video and she brought up this picture.

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01:29:14,199 --> 01:29:17,760
I'm like, honey, this thing, this is real, This is AI.

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01:29:18,039 --> 01:29:21,079
This looks similar, it looks like something like that, but

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01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:23,880
you don't, you know, it's not real, like.

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01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 2: And that's the dark Enlightenment right there.

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01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 3: You know, that's like, that is the epitome of the

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01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,520
Dark Enlightenment when you read like what that is, it's

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01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,039
we're getting information from from a system that doesn't experience

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01:29:35,079 --> 01:29:38,239
reality the way we do. It can't it can't perform

1679
01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:42,000
the scientific method based off senses and experiences to really

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01:29:42,039 --> 01:29:45,720
know reality. It only processes data and information that's inputed

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01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,520
by people who control it. And so therefore your mind

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01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,479
is going to be inputed, your reality is going to

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01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,439
be completely controlled by the programmers of this AI, which

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01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,319
would then lead to a dark enlightenment and negative enlightenment

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01:29:58,359 --> 01:30:00,800
of the people. And that's exactly where we are today

1686
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:02,119
and it's crazy to watch.

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01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,159
Speaker 1: These are all the old original pictures of Cruley, so

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01:30:06,199 --> 01:30:08,560
you can check it out visuals. It's only five books.

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01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 2: Oh, I love you. You have that. That's awesome.

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01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:11,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is.

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01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,199
Speaker 2: I'm getting that. I'm getting that. I gotta get.

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01:30:14,199 --> 01:30:16,399
Speaker 3: I gotta get all the William Ramsey books on my shelf.

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01:30:16,399 --> 01:30:19,399
That's I'm gonna I'm gonna stack up a whole one

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01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:20,800
shelf for it, just your books.

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01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: I should do that. I think that's a great idea.

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01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,239
Speaker 3: That's a good idea. I recommend it. No, I mean

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01:30:26,279 --> 01:30:27,520
they have my credit amazing.

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01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:34,199
Speaker 1: I mean the uh the Yeah, this was done twenty twelve,

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01:30:34,399 --> 01:30:37,039
so this is what pre stuff it's been out. I

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01:30:37,079 --> 01:30:40,560
think it should say that twenty fourteen publication data. It's

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01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:44,359
actually republished. That's why it says up. These are going

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01:30:44,399 --> 01:30:46,520
to be important. Keep all your stuff on your hard

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01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,439
drives and get external hard drives. They're incentivizing people to

1704
01:30:51,399 --> 01:30:53,119
use the cloud and it's a huge mistake.

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01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, AI is going to wipe out all the important

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01:30:56,039 --> 01:30:58,600
knowledge and research that we haven't found out about yet,

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01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,960
and you know that we have that we have found

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01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,119
out up until today, and just rebrand our whole understanding

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01:31:04,119 --> 01:31:05,920
of our history and our reality. And that's the point

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01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,560
that's mine Wars. It gets right into this whole series

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01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:09,119
we've been doing.

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01:31:09,199 --> 01:31:14,520
Speaker 1: So Amen, that's so true. Anybody have any questions before

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01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:18,319
we wrap it up. We're definitely at the ninety minute mark. Anybody,

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01:31:18,359 --> 01:31:23,920
let me go back to these comments inter Myra Park. Yeah,

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01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:27,279
that's it. Douglas D. Trick, Yes, and not nice things

1716
01:31:27,279 --> 01:31:30,800
to say about Douglas D. Trick pull. I don't know.

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01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,239
I don't you know. I just don't know some of

1718
01:31:32,239 --> 01:31:35,079
this stuff. Do you trust the FBI? No, I don't.

1719
01:31:35,119 --> 01:31:36,479
I don't trust the FBI at all.

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01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 2: Henry Lucas, Yeah, yeah, Henry, very good.

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01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,199
Speaker 1: Henry Lee Lucas not his tool. Members of the process.

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01:31:45,319 --> 01:31:48,079
I've never approved that. Can you send me a evidence

1723
01:31:48,079 --> 01:31:51,479
of that. I've heard that Lucas was a member of

1724
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,159
the Black Hand, but maybe that's a subset of the process.

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01:31:55,199 --> 01:31:55,760
I don't know.

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01:31:56,039 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, you know about his mom, right, like

1727
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,199
what his mom did? You're going to be my slave?

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01:32:00,279 --> 01:32:02,479
I'm going to make you my slave in the afterlife.

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01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,359
She satanically abused him and then he ended up killing

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01:32:06,399 --> 01:32:08,079
her and then George Bush.

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01:32:08,359 --> 01:32:13,359
Speaker 2: He's never pardoned anybody. He partoned Henry Le Lucas.

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01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,199
Speaker 1: The only person he parted everybody else want to the

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01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:14,880
death chamber.

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01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's known for doing that.

1735
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,039
Speaker 3: So how crazy I mean when you take that into consideration.

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01:32:19,119 --> 01:32:21,119
And then he says himself that he was given the

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01:32:21,159 --> 01:32:26,279
Cini to go give to the compound at Jonestown. Come on, dude,

1738
01:32:26,319 --> 01:32:29,159
that's crazy. And that's an mk ultra study place. If

1739
01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:30,439
you read into it, Bore, it's not.

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01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a CIA. Yeah, absolutely, that's another person who

1741
01:32:35,039 --> 01:32:38,600
had some Jim Jones had some kind of weird like

1742
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,720
blessed life, like he had weird people around him and

1743
01:32:42,239 --> 01:32:45,760
Cia Opera. One of the guy's name was like he's

1744
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:49,159
like a torture man Gione who's connected to other people

1745
01:32:49,239 --> 01:32:51,680
and sex sketchy people in South America. It was really

1746
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,760
weird and he ended up dead. The other guy ended

1747
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:59,319
up dead as like horrible stuff. Actually did a thing

1748
01:32:59,399 --> 01:33:04,239
about Sam Cisco is called City of Fear something about it.

1749
01:33:04,239 --> 01:33:11,760
It was about Jim Jones and the death of Harvey Milk,

1750
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:15,319
I think, but it's also strange. The guy White was

1751
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:19,760
very strange, like mentally very strange X from the Vietnam

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01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:20,600
War too.

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01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 2: Right time for a red flag.

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01:33:23,079 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, outside strangler, I have not Thanks everybody for listening.

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01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,960
We have two hundred live listeners. Thanks everybody, really appreciate it. Andrew,

1756
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,159
why don't you promote your stuff? I know, I'll try

1757
01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:38,479
to remember to put in your discord server in the

1758
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:43,000
show notes. Yeah, I appreciate that six g Agenda podcast.

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01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,319
Speaker 2: Right, yep, six g Agenda.

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01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:47,600
Speaker 3: Everywhere you get your podcasts, social media, wherever you want

1761
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:49,640
to go, you will find us at six g Agenda.

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01:33:50,119 --> 01:33:52,159
Speaker 2: And yeah, we go live all the time.

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01:33:52,159 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 3: We're going live a few times this weekend, so you

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01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:58,039
could catch us on YouTube for the newest and greatest episodes.

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01:33:58,079 --> 01:34:00,199
We'll be live and then free feed of course us

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01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:02,560
on all platforms. So thank you, William. I love doing

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01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,359
shows with you. I look forward to that, to the

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01:34:04,359 --> 01:34:04,760
next one.

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01:34:05,079 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, till the next one we can do coming forward

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01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,359
by night. It's be worth worth my time to reread that.

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01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:15,560
And also I'm streaming now on Patreon, guys, you can

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01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:19,039
check out my Patreon page streaming to substack. I've got

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01:34:19,039 --> 01:34:22,880
a substack and then three YouTube channels x Rumble, and

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01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:28,399
then this audio will go back out to my audio

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01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,640
which I'm hosted at spreaker right now, but it goes

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01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:35,119
out to Spotify, Spreaker, anywhere else iTunes that you listen

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01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:37,800
to your podcast. So thanks a lot for listening and

1778
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,359
thank you. Andrew appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you,