Speaker 1: Okay, we're a live Hi. This is William Ramsey. Welcome
to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. Have a very
special guest turning guests. His name is Andrew. He operates
the six g Agenda podcast. Check it out. This will
be our eighth episode and this will be the fourth
in a series we've done on Michael Akino and mind War,
and I think this will be the end, but we're
going to kind of finish up with some of the
material from Aquino's later works and can also investigate the claims.
And some people have said it online and I've researched
it of either a Keno or the temple have set
or some of the people in the Bay Area being
involved with the Zodiac killings and this kind of disabusing
this notion of a lone nut doing these deaths. And
I've had somebody on my show a while back, and
I'll put a link to the interview I did. But
his name is Jack Myers. He wrote a book called
Son of Zodiac, which is a conflation of Son of
Sam and Zodiac, but it's how Zodiac and Son of
Sam serial murders were meant to usher in the coming
of Satan and the timing has overlapsed. It's very similar
in the seventies. There's a lot of speculation, like the
need to say, but the psychological psychological impact of the
Zodiac and the Son of Sam are not speculative. Like
I've done shows and many shows. I know. Son of
Sam actually at Birkwoitz write me a personal letter. It's
on my Patreon. But their intent was to have a
massive psychological impact, which it did. Like the Son of
Sam and Zodiac. The what happened to the public mind
and the psyche of the public in the mind war,
if you will, was much more immense than even the
crimes because there were especially New York at that time.
That Son of Sam murders was just like off the charts.
There was all kinds of criminality and their corruption and
stuff going on, but it just captured the pub to mind.
These letters, they're very similar events happening with Son of
Sam and Zodiac. Taunting letters, cryptic information and really your
mind were kind of situation going on, and a lot
of like dark characters in the East Coast. It was
like the processed churches around and all these other groups,
and they're around here too, they're around in this kind
of Bay Area stuff. So there's a lot of I
think valid inquiries into that subject of like some of
these occult is being involved in and a cult series
of murder. Zodiac is a cold kind of thing, and
then the cryptograms and all this. There's a smiling skeleton
in one of the pictures, like a smiley faced skeleton,
which is really strange. But Andrew can talk more about that.
So Andrew, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2: Hey William, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 3: Super excited to get into the crazy occult aspect, the
spiritual aspect, if you will, a dark spiritual aspect of
this mind war. I say mind star for last because
I think that again, yeah, like you said, it leads
into kind of the movement we see outwardly, the Satanic
movement that we saw. I think the first iteration of
the accelerationist movement would be kind of that Satanic panic era. Right,
And so here we are, and yeah, it's just every
day we're getting hammered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're still under massive psychological operational things
probably for decades. Like it's incredible, Like I'm fifty seven.
It just hasn't stopped. The wars and the psyops and
all this stuff, like we're really in some kind of weird,
magical universe. But it goes back to the sixties and seventies,
probably with the advent of mass media or the new
kind of digital media and the implementation of these guys ideas,
these ideas that were very well thought through, just like
a Gino writing book after book after book and being
associated with all these forts. He's at Wachuka for brag
the one in Nebraska Presidio which one of the Zodiac
crimes happened literally like a stone's throw from the presidio,
which is an old military base. They've like taken it
out of the military. It's a great piece of land.
Speaker 2: But it was very close.
Speaker 1: What's the Air Force base off it? I think it's
off it that was associated with Eric and the Kino's
around in all these weird places. But you wanted to
tie in kind of some of his older books before
we kind of get into the Zodiac killings. Do you
want to just reference some of those books first?
Speaker 2: Definitely, so you know, mind Star we haven't gotten into yet.
Speaker 3: That's kind of, I believe a sales pitch book for
his set, his setient philosophy, and I did want to
recap Fine Far, just as a I did a little
bit more research on it since the last show we did.
I just want to recap kind of like the point
of what that book was. Besides this kind of exoteric
view that we got by reading it. It's kind of
like a philosophical manifesto. That's why had a hard time
getting through some of the information by the way he
spoke about it, because in that book he's speaking from
a what he calls a fourth dimensional or a fifth
dimensional kind of quantum realm. In other words, if I
act on you psychologically and spiritually in ways that you
don't perceive, what will happen later?
Speaker 2: Right, So it's.
Speaker 3: Exactly what we're talking about with what these psychological operations
are supposed to bring on as a result.
Speaker 2: And so that's what Fine Far is.
Speaker 3: And it's hard to read because he's speaking from that
quantum kind of area of thinking. So I just want
to mention there's one area of this I found very
interesting recently. I've been researching Nick Land and the accelerationist movement,
and one thing they say is that a to join
the hive mind, we have to get rid of our ego,
deprogram ourselves. That's exactly what a Kino says in his books.
And they talk about ego dying and how that gets
rid of your old I guess you could call it
your old hardware, so you could replace it with this
new hardware, since we're talking about technology being involved. But
they say that a schizophrenic because it is actually a
post human actor, somebody who's closer to this next level
that they want to get us to. If you take
that into a consideration, they're manufacturing schizophrenia. I mean, if
you think about it, right, that's why weeds legal everywhere.
You got the chemical chemical warfare going on with the
hormone replacements, and of course the online.
Speaker 1: Radical dismogenesis is the big word for it, schismogenesis.
Speaker 3: There we go, Okay, so you're familiar, Yeah, of course, yeah,
of course you know about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so it's this conduit for singularity, is the collapsing
of the ego. And so when you take that in
new consideration and then think about the message behind fine
far the core message is to separate yourself from the
herd mind. So he believes were already in this herd mind.
I don't think we're in it. I think this is
an inversion of reality to get into the herd mentality. Fully,
I think it takes a little bit more of this
dissolving of identity as they teach in the Dark Enlightenment.
So he says that most humans operate on an automatic
program state, which I think we're getting to now, and
that he's promoting this independent consciousness is isolated intelligence to
become aware of your own existence beyond biology, control structures,
et cetera.
Speaker 2: To become your own god.
Speaker 3: Instead of worshiping an external deity. You refine and involve yourself,
and then you create your own meaning. So you don't
have a soul until you refine your soul. You're essentially
an animal until you refine it. And that's what they
believe about most people, and you find that in all
these mystery school cults. So I wouldn't point that out. Yeah, yeah,
so that was in fine far. That's kind of the
point of that. He hides it very well in the
way he writes that book, and I don't think I
did it justice, so I want to just recap that.
Speaker 2: So that was about it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that's interesting how you inverted this
dissolving of the ego as being a good thing to
become your own god.
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
Speaker 1: It's the old theme. It's the old theme, but it's
also how they're creating personality and that it's almost the
same thing between Mayat we were talking about in the
pre Chomighty, we're in the on nine name is still
like some of the stuff is still going on seven
six four, and the shootings that happened in San Diego
seems to have been part of that, a cult right
wing strain. But Maya talks about that too, is creating
this different personality and then the public is just a
bunch of Mundanes or you know, muggles or people on
autonomic You know that they're not fully conscious, but we're
going to create our own full consciousness. That's almost like
an uberminted consciousness. And it's the same. So the turn,
like you said, it's just terminology, but all the concepts
are literally the same. There's like almost like they restated
in different ways or more clever ways, but it's the
same concepts, no question about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was listening to Mark and Risen on
Joe Rogan the other day and I was hearing so
many little things that I was like, man, that sounds
just like I mean, some of this stuff I read
in Akino's.
Speaker 2: Work or Crowley.
Speaker 3: So these people are you know, they're they're definitely involved
in this ideology in the tech tech world as well,
very heavily. So yeah, I just see it rear it's
head everywhere. But mind Star is kind of what we'll
cover today though. Mind war is what we started in
the beginning. It's the social engineering of the mind. Mind
Star is the soul in individual consciousness. Like I said,
it's kind of the sales pitch for the Setian philosophy.
Speaker 2: Find far is kind of why I just went over.
Speaker 3: That's that relationship between consciousness and reality beyond ordinary perceptions.
Who we're talking more on the quantum field. So Akino
argues that humans are more like biological machines. He rejects
restrict materialism and also traditional religion. He just kind of
believes that, like we keep saying, you can generate your
own immortality by evolving the soul. So if consciousness is
more than in brain chemistry, then obviously you could cultivate
and strengthen it. That's kind of their core belief. So
he talks about something called the subjective universe. One of
a Kino's concepts is the objective universe, which is like
the external world that everyone experiences, and the subjective universe,
which is kind of your unique inner reality that you
kind of have yourself. So for for the soul as
an achievement kind of is what he kind of looks
at it as traditional Christianity is where you.
Speaker 2: Just kind of you and give yourself over to God.
Speaker 3: Right, you know, the soul is kind of assumed and new,
and it exists automatically. A Kino says that immortality, the
soul does not exist automatically. You have to strengthen your
individual consciousness. This is very similar to Plato gnostic traditions
and of course the Egyptian tradition, which as we read
into Mindstar, you'll see that the whole thing is based off.
Speaker 2: You know, Egyptian tradition.
Speaker 3: I just opened this book to a random page and
we have of Ba and k on it on page
seventy to nine. Ba is the core emanation, the OEU
that I was just talking about the objective universe, and
he talks about the manifestation or the gift of set
the netter means nature in each conscious entity. So the
ba is what that is inside of each of us.
The K is the complete mirror image, he says, of
all eight natural and non natural emanations. So anyway, in
other words, the Doppelganger a completely metaphysical remanifestation of yourself
which can exist into place or displaced without limit. So
this is kind of your eternal self that he talks about,
that you can kind of transmute into a higher being.
So all of it's sets in philosophy, which comes from Egypt.
Speaker 2: That's my point. It's funny.
Speaker 3: It always goes back to Egypt, whether you're talking about Tesla, Crowley, Plato,
you know, the place that got the teachings from they
admit Atlantis essentially, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It always goes back through even the Mason, So it
all goes back to Egypt. That's why Crole had to
have his like great you know event in nineteen oh
four in Egypt.
Speaker 2: So right, and he went into the king's chamber. Am
I wrong?
Speaker 3: I think he was the last one to do it,
or the first one to do it. Since that one's
not ready yet, I'll show you. That's for the arm
Since Plato, I think he was like the first to
do it, right, Crowley.
Speaker 1: Something like that, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then also you had the Kenneth Anger movie where
they had a UFO over the sphinx and they said
that the gods will come back as this right the UFOs.
Speaker 1: Right right after the ritual, but literally after the ritual,
and the guy there literally sat on Crowley's knee. Who
was on there was he was the director of the
film Performance, which is totally satanic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And wasn't that called what was it called Lucifer
Rising something like.
Speaker 1: That for Rising, but the director was Donald Cammell And yeah,
wild stuff.
Speaker 2: Mmm. So I'll let uh while you pull that up.
If you are pulling that up.
Speaker 1: So what am I trying to get to? I lost truck.
Speaker 3: No, No, we're just talking about U Mind's Anger and
that Lucifer Rising. I thought I thought you had something
you were pulling up, But no, it's no big deal.
So he talks about his companion book, Mind War, which
included an examination of what he terms thought architecture. Humans
are normally both ignorant of and unconcerned with how their
thoughts originate and are structured, so they just think and
this is all there is to it, right, So in
other words, people are just on an autopilot. But that is
not all there is to it. The interface between the
consciousness and the physical senses is the brain an electromagnetic
chemical machine. Notice he says machine. It processes raw sensory
and puts into predetermined, recognized patterns for or new experience.
It says, modifying existing patterns, forming basis basices for new ones.
So ninety five percent of the time this passive process,
this is important, comes through the subconscious So he's saying
that the subconsciousness where you can actually do the best
mind war at That's what he's getting at there. So
then he gets into something called algorithmic thought. So he
says that additional five percent rises to the attention of
consciousness to require active consideration, which is algorithmic thought. So
only five percent of our actual consciousness, he's saying, gets
thought about consciously. Most of it's autopilot, so they would
need to access that part of our of our mind.
Speaker 2: This is page seventeen, by the way, if you're employed.
Speaker 3: So this results in deliberate decision making and also an
assignment of the input to the existing or new pattern
into which it did not fit automatically. So in other words,
mind more is a manual for the practical applications in
the objective unit, so that it can concentrate on identification
and control pattern of the algorithmic thought. So we need
to control the algorithmic thought the way you think. So
we're going to act on your subconscious all the time
to help generate that algorithmic thought in the way we want.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Interesting, So that's why it's important to have this spiritual
and psychological aspect to this understood.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening now, Like he predicted what's going on
on the internet. Yes, this full algorithm, just like manipulating
the living daylight side of you.
Speaker 2: I known't that crazies even all the way down to
the terminology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
Speaker 3: So he talks about a third element of thought architecture
that he briefly speaks about mind war, and it's called
conceptual thought, also known as the creative or divine. This
identifies thinking which is not the product of OU. So
this is recognizing and classifying mechanisms. It comes into existence
in pure uniqueness what Plato terms noasis or enlightened in tuition,
So it is not a construct of the objective universe,
rather it generates its own subjective universe. Now, this is
getting into the OU and the SU. He's going to
shorten into.
Speaker 2: That a lot.
Speaker 3: So as each thought is discreete and individual experiencing such
will apprehend numerous unique subjective universe as he goes through
his life. So in other words, he's going to have
programming instilled in his mind as he experiences certain things.
We know this your life experience leads you into a
certain thought process, just like mine. So he's wondering, how
can we use a mirror essentially to kind of generate
this in a certain way. So if input from the
objective universe is not intelligible, it is simply disregarded and
then it's just noise. So these humans can be easily
manipulated because they don't want to hear it and they
tune out the information and conflict with their accustomed c sus. Right,
So if it makes you uncomfortable, you ignore those inconvenient truths.
We see that all the time. That's people actively ignoring
their own programming every day. Even when people like me
and you point it out right.
Speaker 1: Condition responses those type of things. Yeah, they don't even
realize it, but their condition. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was kind of the summary in the
beginning of what he's saying that this book is going
to be about. So as he goes through it, I've
got some chapters in here, but I've got my notes,
so I'll kind of read a little bit more from
uh yep. Yeah, Kino discusses different aspects of consciousness and identity.
He treats them as a kind of interacting components.
Speaker 2: Rather than a single entity.
Speaker 3: So in Egyptian and Emanations, this chapter, I don't know
what page it is for you.
Speaker 2: I'll have to find it. Let me look at my index,
try to see here Egypt.
Speaker 3: I guess it would be on page thirty five. Yeah,
because that's where he gets into the whole Egyptian philosophy.
And what's funny about this is he thinks, though Cyrus
and Isis and all that they're the evil ones and
set Is actually the good one. Right, So you've got
this complete inversion of the Ossyrian practices. I found that
super interesting as well, because you know, you think of
Seth Seth like in the Christian Bible, in the conspiracy world.
In this seed Wars kind of theory, people think that
Seth would be like the Adamite, so he'd be actually
the good line and a Chino trace is set to
Seth from this Christian story. So in a weird way,
a lot of the Seed Wars stuff would lead you
into Akino's ideology as far as like the Setian philosophy.
Speaker 2: It could it could lead there.
Speaker 1: Interesting it is, please continue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Egyptian history kind of gets into that, but
I want to get to let me see here.
Speaker 2: You find it here, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3: So to the Egyptians, all of nature was alive and
direct consequence of the wills of the Netturu, which are
these demiurge, That's what I call them.
Speaker 2: They're just the demiurge, the gnostic gods.
Speaker 3: Nature was intelligible, but not just through inanimate, automatic and
general regularities which could be discovered through the scientific method,
but also through connections and association between things and even
in events perceived in the human mind. I kind of
think of like my celium with this, right, so you
have this interconnected intelligence underground of my celium and trees.
I think that they're kind of speaking to that a
little bit. But notice all things are conscious, but not
all things have a soul, So therefore that puts us
on the level of like trees and like animals. You
see how easily that kind of logic can be drawn there.
So there's no distinction between reality and appearance. Anything capable
of exerting an effect upon the mind thereby existed. So
this gets into the whole consciousness creates your real not
the other way around, which is important because that leads
into this Luciferian philosophy of you make your own reality.
That's your truth, not my truth. Right easily leads into that.
So he mentioned that there. He talks about Set here,
and he talks about there's no records of the ancient
priesthood of Set that survived from the first Ossyrian dynastic
persecution later the more general vandalism of the Christian Islamic
eras we know of it only by its reflection both
in the character of Set as he has portrayed symbolically
and mythologically. So it talks about three significant facts that
are known about the priesthood of Set page forty seven.
Together with the priesthood of Horus, it was the oldest
of the Egyptian priesthoods. If we dated to the earliest
dynastic images of Set found, we can establish an origin
of at least thirty two hundred BC, so it's working
with the Egyptian on astronomically BA to records. So Set
was the netter who was different from all the others.
Too often this is simplified into him being an evil
slayer of Osiris, hence the personification of evil yet any
but most of the cursory study of Egyptian religious symbolism
is sufficient to dispel this caricature. He was rather a
net ter against the netsuru, the entity who symbolize that
which is not of nature. So he's the real god,
right killing the natural gods. So this is a very
curious role for a net or in Egyptian cosmology, to
be a presence and force which alone could not be
apprehended by perceptions of the natural senses. So this thus
represents the nameless thing whose existence we know of by
the shadow at casts on many on things apprehended. So
he's just this is the life force, right, that's what
he's saying. That's what Set represents. So he says, focus
our attention on what remains, the very awareness of self
is what's left after you kind of strip away the
what does he say here? Post Egyptian cultures have generalized
the vehicle by which this pressure presence and manifest as
the spirit, psyche or soul.
Speaker 2: But increased precision is possible.
Speaker 3: We must subtract from such crudeness that what is life
for uce and focus our intention on what remains the
awareness of self. So yeah, this just gets into the
whole Youngian philosophy of the shadow self. That's kind of
what that is, and that's awesome, like the parallels you'll
find with like the shadow self, and then a lot
of the setient philosophy, which is just breaking down your
natural instincts are that you're born with or that you
programmed yourself to have and kind of uniting yourself with
your shadow self so you can be enlightened.
Speaker 2: Right. That's the Youngian philosophy in a nutshell.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he just kind of talks about religions for
a while, and he speaks about the enlightenment. So a
lot of this talks about he's kind of just like
disproving a lot of the religions, a lot of the philosophies,
saying how they're just not good enough because it doesn't
teach you to venerate your own soul. But this one's
interesting here, who owns your body? On page one point thirty,
So this talks about the protagonists of the matrix. So
he assumed that he did until he awakened to discover
it attached to a variety of purisitic mechanisms.
Speaker 2: Let's find out what you might be hooked up to.
Speaker 3: So he's saying that, just like Neo was hooked up
to the machine, you're hooked up to the state. You're
hooked up to the religion, the profession that you have
psychiatry family, right, so you got a deep program detached
from yourself, right. These are all different things he talks
about here. So indeed, even this is a bit of
the broad brush. Biological science estimates that each human body
contains about thirty nine trillion living bacterial cells who've somehow
all decided to be you for a while, at least
in the metaphysical realm. There are the Egyptians detected and
identified only eight of you. So I don't even know
what the hell that means. That's some weird shit. Eight
aspects to yourself like the chakras, I guess, But yeah,
So that he just talks about how weirdis these are
our programming mechanisms, right, our family, profession, our state, religion.
They own our body, is what he's saying. Just like
Neo was owned by the Matrix that way. So it's
funny how the Matrix kind of we know that the
Matrix has a lot of that Eastern philosophy of like.
Speaker 2: Enlightenment in it.
Speaker 3: It's funny how he relates that to this where he's like,
that's what you got to do. You know, it just
draws that that is the Satanic philosophy then, right, I
mean it just proves that age Enlightenment era is really
let in by the guys like this right.
Speaker 1: Right, that's the Satanic world's view is just kind of
almost a dual world, right, yep, Like you live in
one reality, I live in another reality. That's why they
can do all this fromatic stuff like get away with things,
because they just just feel like you're in a different world.
It's like the eloy and the Morlocks or whatever it
is from HG. Well's Time Machine, like they're just different entities.
They detach themselves from other people. That's exactly what the
on nine A does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they look at you as somebody who
just like it.
Speaker 3: Says, here the taboo of metaphysics, right, Well, there's a
taboo around metaphysics. That's why we're able to use metaphysics
to manipulate you, because you don't believe in it or whatever.
So he talks about ostensibly the antipathy of physics for
metaphysics dates to the European Enlightenment, so he gets into that.
It talks about the cond name of science and scientists
as a threat to the Holy Bible. A meaning God
is the creator of the ou would also imply his
continued presence and willful discretion to change or ignore its
established consistency. If he were ruled out altogether, miracle explanations
for mysterious events wouldn't be moot.
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of point he's making there.
Speaker 3: Ironically, religion religionists, he calls them, have never attempted to
argue the active presence of God for the existence and
enforcement of the o U n L, which is shortened
for the objective universe in nets her nature or something.
So rather they would have sought evidence of God's existence
and power and claimed miracles such as the parting of
the Red Sea, changing a person into a pillar of
salt in Jesus walking and water. The obvious absurdity of
such Voudavillain dramatics served only to ridicule religion all the
more so He's saying, your beliefs are actually giving us
more reason. A ritic you oh, most is part of
the red sea. Huh yeah, okay, you know. So it
just adds to the jokes that they look at religion
as so that's kind of it. He kind of leaves
it there. For the metaphysical taboo aspect, it gets into symbolism,
and then Orwellian unwords on page one forty three, I
have some stuff underlined here. George Orwell realized the subtle
yet decisive power of language in his classic novel nineteen
eighty four, in which political heresy is being systematically eliminated
by the destruction of words by which to conceive or
express it. So it says here, don't you see that
the whole aim of news speak is to narrow the
range of thought. In the end, we will make thought
crime literally impossible, because there will be no words in
which to express it. Every concept that can ever be
needed will be expressed by exactly one word. It's meaning
rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and
forgot already. We're not far from that point, but the
process will still be continuing long after you and I
are dead.
Speaker 2: This is an excerpt from the book.
Speaker 3: Every year I fewer and fewer words, and the range
of consciousness always a little smaller.
Speaker 2: Man that looks like today lol.
Speaker 1: Btw, I mean the language is being like getting coarser
and coarser.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He ends with this, the whole climate of thought will
be indifferent. In fact, there will be no thought as
we understand it now, Orthodoxy means not thinking, not needing
to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness. So I mean that's what
you know, like the whole like we talked about earlier,
the getting people more schizophrenic, or the legalization of say
weed or put people on Xanax for their anxiety. These
eliminate your thought. Like you have the short videos on
social media right, these are all.
Speaker 2: Yep, they all add to it.
Speaker 1: You're not actually going to get depressed because you're not
going to feel anything. You're going to be totally numb.
Speaker 3: And that's the soma from Brave New World, where you
know I just talked about that today. Aldus Huxley, you know,
speaks a lot about getting rid of the emotional regularities
that people have so they're more conducive to conform to
society because they don't actually have emotions. And the way
you could do that is numbing or numbing their emotions
with drugs. And I think they figured out a way
to do that environmentally maybe with autism.
Speaker 2: I think that's got a big, big part of that.
Speaker 1: From all angles, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was a big part of my my
kind of thing was like the eugenics, I think are
creating autism on purpose while they're also uh sequencing the
genome so they can purify their DNA that's been they believe,
muddied up over the years, so they can be god
kings again, et cetera. Right, because they think, you know,
it goes back to this bloodline again, it's pure bloodline
to the god kings.
Speaker 1: I think you're one hundred percent right, But it's gonna
it's gonna be that division. So it's gonna be for them,
but you get nothing. Yeah, you are the slave they
shall serve. It's the old kind of Satanic dictum. Absolutely,
So I think that that's where it's at, like they're
the god kings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see.
Speaker 3: Somebody mentioned that the set of the Egyptians is very
different than a Quino set, and that's absolutely true. A
lot of his stuff is inversion, right, the adversary becomes
the savior. It's the classic inversion of what happened in
the garden as him being the good guy and we
were held in there by a vindictive evil god in
the garden and we were saved by enlightenment and intellect,
by you know, coming out.
Speaker 2: It's all bs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the tree of knowledge of good and evil,
its just the tree of knowledge. They all use the
same thing, so they're kept from knowledge. And then Prometheus
is your hero. H It's just all the same stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They got to add the go good and evil tropes
so they could be like, look, you you wouldn't have
had any moral servitude if.
Speaker 2: We didn't get you out of that guarden.
Speaker 1: So there's your discord. How many how many people do
you have in your discord? You are you there often?
Speaker 3: So we just got that going, well, we've had it
for a while, but we just really started hammering on it.
So we've kind of created and curated a timeline of information.
If like you want to see some topics that we'll
be talking about. Discord's a great place. Now we've got
to show chat where I'll put post in there from
ex Twitter in between the weeks when I'm not doing shows,
just as topics that you may see me talk about
or just interesting things. And so yeah, also, like I
had a show schedule for this week for the live
shows we're doing, so it's a good place just to
keep up with what's going on with the show.
Speaker 1: I'll put a link in the show notes. I'll put
your Discord link on there.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so.
Speaker 3: Orwell's illustration was simplified into a dictionary which kept shrinking
with every edition. The reality is detailed in my companion volume,
Mind War is more subtle, but just as persistent. This
is interesting so we can see what they're actually doing.
So humans form panoramas of patterns of reality over time
based upon continuous and reinforcing sensory input. This is the
programming we've been talking about.
Speaker 2: So this includes.
Speaker 3: Political ideologies, propaganda design to instill and preserve desired values
and interpretations. So the more sensational and dramatic propaganda targets
the conscious perceptions. The far stronger conditioning takes place subconsciously.
Speaker 2: Now we see that all the time.
Speaker 3: For example, the term democracy means one thing to a
capitalist and another to a socialist or communists, So you
could use the dual definitions of things depending on somebody's
subjective understanding of that thing, And so two people are
actually in two realities. Right, So I see that all
the time. For instance, where like online, you know, somebody
may say one.
Speaker 2: You'll accept.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got two working definitions of the same thing,
So you were in two different realities. Right. You look
at communism as one thing, I look at it as another. Right,
So socialism's could to you, it's bad to me that.
Speaker 2: Kind of thing. I was trying to think of a
good example.
Speaker 3: But such patterns formed the individual's pillars of reality identified
and changed only slowly, with considerable difficulty, if at all.
But obviously this mind more trilogy publication is the educational
process and environment in technologically advanced country that's undergoing further
change consequent to digital media, which influenced both subconscious and
conscious thinking in audio visual processes faster, more intuitively, and
less personally deliberative than previously.
Speaker 2: Before, so that, Yeah, I mean he's right on.
Speaker 3: You know, he's like, look social media, like he kind
of knew what was going to happen with the social
media echo chambers, et cetera. So reality becomes more of
a variable than a constant.
Speaker 1: Obviously he was one hundred percent right when the guy
had real foresight, There's no question about it. Yeah, when
was this published? Seventy seven?
Speaker 2: No, so this particular had to be twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's when he came out.
Speaker 3: Because it was on the mid twenty, like twenty tens
is whenever he came out with all three books. But
he had been writing this I think for years. Twenty sixteen,
twenty eighteen publication.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's dood in twenty nineteen September first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so all this came out right before he died.
But I mean I think this was stuff that was
on papers that people were reading about, you know, in
the you know, what would you call it, the special
access programs. They were learning about this. This was like
what they had to study with I guarantee it or
something like this.
Speaker 1: I think you're.
Speaker 3: So he's got something in here called sacking the sack
mindstar proposes to free both atheists an agnostics from the
glum problem. He says, BBS prospect. I don't really know
what bbs. He has a lot of short, shorthanded words.
I don't know what BBS stands for. As discussed previous here,
in Egyptians apprehended the objective universe as the physical manifestation
of conceiving principles, the netru or nature. These were symbolized
as animals and theory anthropes. And remember that in this context,
symbolism is an ideographic representation of a concept beyond more
alphabetics or for that matter, simple pictures. So accordingly, the
netaru could just as easily be called forms like by
Pythagoras and Plato acyr, like by the ancient Egyptian or Europeans,
or the an er ai n you are by j
R R token.
Speaker 2: Can we look up what that is? Ai n you
are JR.
Speaker 1: I'll do it right now.
Speaker 2: I'm really confed. I want to.
Speaker 3: I wonder about this, but these are not cartoon gods
as moderns brought up on the soap opera mythologies. So
I guess these would be like the little Pantheon of gods. Okay, yeah,
I was like, what are these? But okay, so they
call it the forms and Pythagoras and Plato, I didn't
know that the aur.
Speaker 1: Are like the early kind of like spiritual beings. Okays,
like the singulars au in your only ones are great
ones are the primordial, immortal, divine spirits created by Eruvatar
as the first beings in existence.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, so yeah, God makes the little g gods. Right,
these would be the sons of God. In the Bible,
the sons of God were made first in Genesis, and
then after that it goes into the garden. A lot
of people don't catch that. So he like makes the
son of God and has them go take over the
earth and lay dominion over the nature.
Speaker 2: Right, which is interesting because what are these?
Speaker 3: These are the little g gods, the forces of nature,
and he has these go out and take over nature.
And then in the next chapter you have Adam get
made in the garden. So there's man in the son
of God. And then later they mentioned the son of
God in Genesis six where it says the sons of
God came down onto the women, the daughters of men.
So you have a differentation between sons of God and men,
and this is why people believe the Nephlom were created
with these fallen angels, which is where you get back
to the bloodlines that leads into this.
Speaker 2: Right crazy, So that would be the Aner.
Speaker 3: Then that's crazy. They use a lot of token stuff
like pounteer and everything. So that's why I was curious
what that was, right, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, it's.
Speaker 3: So the netru are pluralized for a more refined interpretation
of the objective universe, complexity and interaction between markedly different phenomenon.
So Lazier simple minds could and did describe the collective
principles as a conglomerate god. So he's saying all these
are different aspects to the same. So he's saying that
people believe in this god. But really it's just nature
and you could tap into it. That's really it, you know.
So does the OU require a prior imaginative creative agency
to bring it into existence is a question, he says,
consider its size and complexity, which everywhere functions precisely and harmoniously,
a gigantic machine of almost infinite number and variety of
working parts. If the mechanism per se is not expressive enough,
note that everywhord's components, both severally and in various levels
of grouping, have a strong aesthetic aspect. In short, it
is not just functional, but beautiful in every sensory.
Speaker 2: So it does a work of art as well as science.
Speaker 3: So absent to net Drew, proposing that a machine like
this could just appear and function by nothing more than
sheer random accident is not just slightly but overwhelmingly beyond
statistical probability.
Speaker 2: So obviously it's just saying that this.
Speaker 3: World couldn't have been made without these forces, right, So
it needs an external enforcement.
Speaker 2: That's what Plato teach.
Speaker 3: Everything's held together by like this pushing of like this
external force. And so the proof of the existence and
power of the netru is and requires nothing more than
the fact of this natural existence that we live in,
That's what he's saying. So just the fact we live
here proves that they're real. So yeah, very interesting. He
talks about extrapolating ignorance. Profane humans generally perceive passive faith
based indoctrination only they are not expected to actively examine
or interrogate such indoctrination. Indeed, are usually re reprimanded or
punished if they do so accordingly, they assume themselves to
be defined and manifest by their own physical bodies and senses.
If they think about death, which most avoid doing, they
imagine only the blind fear, and thus they are easy
prey for these profane religions. So these religions are just
used to control these people that don't know how to
process their own reality or question their own existence because
they're scared.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what he you know, that's what
he sums it up to.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Also, that's also the uh, the Masonic term for kind
of like the holy poloized profane you know, yes, absorb,
absorbing that terminology.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right into the Masonic kind of vocabulary there. So,
not only do religions have no power or authority to
decrease such fates, but their private and public documents make
it clear that they have not the slightest idea about
actual afterlife or even how to discover it. So, yeah,
the kids in reincarnation, necromancy, and necromancy, let's look at
this because this is crazy.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Ritual summing of the departed has been an interest of
this on page one fifty four, UH has been an
interest of ceremonial magicians, medium scientists, and say on setists.
Since antiquity, most of this can be written off as superstitions, delusion,
or fraudulent. But if thought is indeed a field phenomenon
and the MS is immortal, there's no reason to assume
that the communications of the esp type is impossible. So
our full inquiry into so pretty much mediumship has to
be real, is what he's posing here. So, as discussed
in mind war, deliberate concentration and energizing of both conscious
and subconscious thought requires reinforcement by and non distraction of
the body's physical senses. So we're talking yoga, meditation, things
like that. So selection, construction, and decoration of enhancing your externalities.
So anyway, beyond its range of physical sense, the human
body can both detect and react to a wide range
of waves and fields within the possibly and possibly beyond
the electromagnetic spectrum. So he talks about what would have
been needed was for the tank to be surrounded by
a fair day cage. He's talking about Doctor Lilly's tanks
did not specifically identify or reduce psychological controls.
Speaker 2: From mine wars. I don't know what Lily's tank was.
It must have been.
Speaker 3: I wonder if it was one of those century deprivation tanks,
because I feel like those almost make you more susceptible
in a weird way.
Speaker 2: So the re.
Speaker 3: Emanation of dead bodies minus the soul of once so
we talked about the zombification of people. You know, I
don't know if you saw this, but Trump literally I
only brought that up because Trump literally just said that
they can bring people back from the dead, like they
have some medication that can do that.
Speaker 2: Did you see that?
Speaker 1: No missed out?
Speaker 2: Nope, yeah, I posted on my discord. You check it out.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, So it's weird because I was mentioning,
I was like, well, I think the only way you
could do that is like self assembling nanoparticles that create
a digital nervous system that can reanimate dead bodies.
Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Peter Thiel's talked about bringing people back from the dead
as well. It just gets into this weird biblical resurrection
of the dead. I mean, I really do think they're
trying to manufacture revelation.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, it's their blue blueprint. Crowley loved revelation.
He thought he was going to do it, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he talks about two thousand and one in
Space Odyssey and here as well.
Speaker 2: Monolithic and m nisis it's that.
Speaker 3: That's why he's talking about it, because monolith and what
it represents.
Speaker 2: You're familiar with what the monolithic?
Speaker 3: Yeah, black que bringing knowledge, it's the classic classic.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's Michael Hoffman talks about it in Secret Societies
and Psychological Warfare, which is another book we should go
through because it's very similar said kind of what a
Kino writes about. But it's like it's like an ashlar
major masonry represents all this stuff. But the one that
they use in two thousand and one is eleven feet tall.
It's dimensions of ninety three. Like it's full on like
the cult numerology. It's not explained in the film though,
but then if you read the book. The book is
The Key by Arthur C. Clark to the film, and
they exposed a lot of the occult.
Speaker 2: I think I think I've heard of that, Yeah, the Key. Yeah,
I'm gonna check that out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: David Bowman was represented, So he's talked about Star Child
here and he talked about two thousand and one. Start
a flat, black, golden rectangular monolith the missing link power
to catalyze successive stages of human consciousness to evolution. So
in other words, like it's the thing that's going to
bring us to the to the next stage of man
from instinctive animal to Homo sapien and prehistory and then
from intelligent incarnation to pure mentality or star child.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Bill Cooper did a great job with the two thousand
and one Space Odyssey. He broke that down in episode
one of his Mystery Babylon series and he talks about
how the only one that makes into the future is
that like synthetic bionic or synthetic biological man called how
you remember that?
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, So how is one.
Speaker 2: Letter away from IBM?
Speaker 3: He pointed out, like each letter is one letter.
Speaker 1: Away from yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then LM. That's crazy, dude.
Speaker 3: He pointed that out, and I just thought that was
interesting because that's exactly what we're talking about, is this
synthetic biological man is the only one that can go
into the future.
Speaker 2: As the next stage of the ubermensch. So that works.
Speaker 3: As we're talking about that, what ushers that in would
be some of these crazy sacrifices, these satanic killings. This
accelerationist kind of stuff we talked about in the beginning,
like the San Diego killing shooters they called himself accelerationists,
or like the Zodiac killings back in the sixties.
Speaker 2: So we can get into some of that if you'd like, sure, yeah,
we can.
Speaker 1: Talk about that. Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 3: I mean, because yeah, that's most of mind Star. Again,
it's just more loose Siferian doctrine. It's the sales pitch
to follow his version of Luciferianism, Satanism, whatever you want
to call it. But it just mirrors everything we always read, right,
Just all these guys just rebrand their ideologies and they
act like they have some special version of it.
Speaker 1: They have to make them so special if they're going
to lead the other people in their their own version
of the pole. They want to become leaders, they probably
mean that seems to be what happened to you, is
that he didn't like playing second or third fiddle to
Levey or anybody else. So yeah, I mean, it's like
these branches break off and all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, Maestro in the chat mentioned how the Seary touch weird.
The mk ultra based century deprivation techniques and now rich
folks are paying to have the same torture experiences. I
think that gets back to what we talked about, which
is ego death in order to merge with this hive mind.
A lot of these you know, rich people like Joe Rogan,
he's full in on this new new man. She wants
his ego death. He talks about that all the time.
AI presidents, he talks about that.
Speaker 1: So they want to disclosure the whole suite. He is
a new age promoter. There's nothing it can't be denied.
As long as it's like a so close to the
Epstein network, it's hard to believe he's not part of it.
For me, there's just all the people are there and
they're all this stuff too.
Speaker 3: They're I know, this guy did a great This guy
did a great deep dive of like the UFC and
Dana White's connection with like Epstein and the Ari guy
that owns the UFC and all that.
Speaker 2: Insane.
Speaker 1: There's other ones too, for Tita like, and it just
shows that a lot of these guys were mixed up
in the network. You know, they really were. They they were.
It was just like a fish swimming in the Epstein
ocean and it's almost like who in the elite is
not involved with Epstein because they all seem to just
be around him or talking to him.
Speaker 3: And I think it gets back to like to enter
into this new age, you have to be under this ideology,
and all these people are just exemplifying that they're involved.
They're heavily, they adhere to the ideology.
Speaker 2: They they are.
Speaker 1: All in It's mystery Babylon exactly, And that's that's the
whole thing, is that it's a mystery to the outsiders,
but they're inside type people. That's probably why Rogan had
his career the way it was, is that he was
going to be the facilitator between the masses, the profane
and all these other people's ideas.
Speaker 2: Like First Deal by Disney. I mean, that's telling.
Speaker 3: It's so funny, Like who even say on the show,
like could you imagine if this was some long game.
Speaker 2: To get people to manipulate people a certain way? And
I'm like, could you imagine actually saying that out loud?
Speaker 1: No? But I mean, if you go back through, it's
so many and so many of the journalists who are
downplaying the Epstein stuff are on his show too, So
it's not even the Epstein kind of network. But I
can make a list of all these people like yeah,
it's not important, or you know, you guys are overstating this.
Speaker 3: He's a construct. That's a new one. That's Eric Eric Weinstein.
Epstein's a construct. What are you talking about? He's a construct?
He's still what.
Speaker 1: Weinstein said, he said construct home.
Speaker 3: Yeah he said he's like I said, he was a
construct before anybody would. And now everybody's saying that. I'm like,
nobody's saying he's a constructor. Like you guys are just
making your own reality here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they sure are not a construct man. He was
a longtime operator. And I've been researching some of his
ties to art and the films, Like he got entre
into some of these premieres. Like oftentimes there'll be a
public premiere, let's say in Hollywood on Hollywood Boulevard, but
it'll be a weekend premiere, like a week of premieres,
and they'll be private premiers for the actors and the
producers and they're close friends and Epstein be invited to
these and what I mean, So like some of these
major films that you've watched, he would go to these
premieres with like first rate to triple A actors. Oh yeah, Well,
one then I read recently was this is after his
conviction too. So one of the ones I read recently
was Lei Mian's Errob. It was pretty big production. I
don't know. I mean it had first rate actors, right,
It had Jack Hugh Jackman and some of these other people,
and there's a guest list and it's just like elite, elite, elite,
first rate actor, first rate actor, first rate actor, producer
Jeffrey Epstein and friend, like they knew, they're just covering
it up. It's just like when Epstein like, there's so
many people who know this stuff and they're not coming forward.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I saw you know. I'm sure
you've seen this by now.
Speaker 3: There's like a clip from a nineteen eighty seven episode
for a TV show that talked about we got the
Epstein files, and they're like in a courtroom or something
and almost like the programming for what's going on today.
Speaker 1: No, they knew what he was doing for a long time.
His stuff goes back to probably nineteen eighty I don't
know how much sex trafficking, but his various stuff I
ran contra KASHOWGHI. These are all real stuff, you know,
tower financial he was he was brought in at a
very early age, in his late twenties and thirties or something.
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned Hollywood. Did we talk about, you know
who his dad might have been?
Speaker 1: No, so maybe you talked about that Epstein guy who's
the writer, right?
Speaker 3: So well you had Leslie Epstein, right, who's possibly Epstein's
brother because of his dad, who was Philip st Epstein.
Speaker 2: I believe his name is Philip s.
Speaker 3: Epstein or something, and he was in he Okay, so
let me back up. There's two twin brothers or two brothers.
Both Epstein's move here from Germany around World War two,
maybe even World War One, but they moved over here.
They go over to Hollywood, the Warner Brothers. One of
them testifies during this huge political scandal in Hollywood where
they were saying that Communism was trying to infiltrate Hollywood.
One of the Epstein's is implicated, Philip Epstein.
Speaker 2: He dies of.
Speaker 3: A heart attack right after being implicated. The same year,
a man named Seymour Epstein pops up in the East
Coast and gets married. The last thing in his history
was he went to war in nineteen forty, So nineteen
fifty two is the next thing you pick up on
that guy's history. And he's now getting married the same
year that this guy died of a heart attack. This guy,
Seymour Epstein moves to Coney Island and he has Jeffrey Epstein.
The whole idea is that he stole the identity of
Seymour Epstein faked his death because he's being implicated on
the Communist infiltration in Hollywood, which would make sense. Why
a schmo like Epstein, as Steve Bannon calls him, would
make it into the Trilateral Mission, working with the Rockefellers
and the Rothschilds and being plugged into Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Makes sense.
Speaker 3: And then of course his brother, Leslie Epstein, what is he, right,
King of the Jews, which is the book that he
had in the files, right, So it's something.
Speaker 2: He had in his possession.
Speaker 1: They looked just.
Speaker 2: Alike, dude, they look like brothers. I think it's undeniable.
Speaker 3: I think that most likely that's that's what happened, or
very close to what happened.
Speaker 1: He had that kind of like, uh, you know, so
nepotistic thing about Epstein. There was something about him, like
he got entree into places that were weird. Yeah, he
got into Dalton teaching, but I don't think he ever
completed college, like that would be the predicate to get
a job in that environment.
Speaker 3: Well, I believe that Barr's dad, who got him into
Dalton was in the OSS quest it Yeah, okay, but
if we know that those guys came from Germany and
brought Communism over here, I believe that these guys mess
like there's some connection with the OSS and these communistic
Jews if you want to call him that, right, or
these Zionists whatever you want to call him, Uh, that
came over here and did this.
Speaker 2: So I think there's a big connection there.
Speaker 3: And then he starts a shoe cobbler place and whatever
it was and Coney Island just to kind of look normal.
Speaker 2: But I think there's a lot to that.
Speaker 1: There's so much under the surface of Epstein that there's
probably stuff under the surface of his dad. Like it
may not be the full story, like it just may
be a almost like an intel legend. Like yeah, Hillary
Clinton's mom her that's not her maiden name, you know,
it's not Clinton, It's I mean her dad. But she
presents him as like, oh, he's just as simple. He
presents him to the left, you know, as a simple
like drape maker. But he may have had a front business,
but he was all mobbed up. Her dad mopped up.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean, we pretty much got Mari Lansky in the
White House right now, So I mean, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean this shouldn't be a surprise. Yeah,
these guys have this kind of cover language, but there's
so much on it. I mean, the Epstein files revealed
that he didn't know the public didn't know that much
about Epstein, but there's a lot to know. He had
the most byzantine financials that I've ever seen on a person,
with so many trusts and wills and instruments and tax
havens and just crazy like it was. I don't know
if anybody's even tried to break through and understand where
all this money was coming from. Was moving around in
strange ways, money was coming in from places nobody knew
where was coming from.
Speaker 3: Well, he had like his own version of fractional banking
that he had going on, where he had you know,
he would sell somebody a bond for ten thousand and
then they'd have to give him like one hundred, you know,
one hundred thousand back, and so he had so many
of these out that at one point he cashed them
all in at once, and I believe that that led
there's a theory that that led to the financial crisis
in O eight because of how much money he literally
had invested in that that system there. I forgot what
it was called, but it was like his own version
of fractional reserve banking that he was doing through bonds
and things like that with people.
Speaker 1: Interesting. I mean, it's just off the charts what he
was doing. I mean he was brought in by this
guy Abe Greenberg into bear Stearns, which was what's kind
of like the upstart finance guys and who's put in
some special thing to do taxavans. So like, how do
you get this right away before you're thirty? You know,
like you have to have know somebody in half.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, insane, like you didn't earn your bones much.
Speaker 1: He was made partner within four years of bear Stearns.
I don't think he's not bright. He's smart, but I
don't think he's like a genius level typers. No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he understands money though. That's for sure. He did did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so somebody said the Zodiac movie was directed by
David Fincher of The Fight Club.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I didn't know that he was connected.
Speaker 1: That is true. That is true. And the movie features
these two guys who will look into it, Tosky and
I forgot the other guy's name, and they there, they
followed their life. It's a long movie, but they were
they were trying to find stuff. I mean, they were
really interesting guys in themselves. If anybody knows where their
papers are, let me know. It's Tosky, was t O.
It's Italian t O, s c. H. I. But they
studied a lot of different people, and they were in
the whole scene like they knew all this occultism and
all that stuff that was going on in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Well, I've got whenever you're ready speaking of that, I've
got this share screen ready for bookmarks I have on
X from just a little bit of rudimentary research I
was doing about Zodiac Killer and Michael Akino.
Speaker 1: Well, let me let me bring this up. This is
an interview that I've done with this author, Jack Myers,
which I mentioned. It's the intro and this is the
book Son of Zodiac. It's really interesting. High they recommend
this is from Mike Kendall, but I'll republish this. I'll
republish this interview I did, but it has it has
I think it's interesting, but it has all the the
usual suspects. Crowley processed Church of Satan. This is kind
of this is crazy there he is in there. So
what were our subject matter today?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, the time dates line up perfectly, like
he went he went to San Francisco from Fort Braggan
sixty eight sixty nine, joined the Church of Satan like
that year, and that's like the first murder.
Speaker 2: You get stones throwaway as you.
Speaker 3: Said, from Church of Stton or Church of Satan, and
also from Presidio right.
Speaker 1: And there was a huge Presidio scandal I think in
nineteen eighty. So after these events, all this stuff came out.
He was investigated. I did a show on it, like
it was a real federal investigation. It wasn't a oak
and uh, I guess they didn't compile enough evidence. But yeah,
it was like for real, like it was a real
investigation about child abuse. It's part of the Satanic panic thing.
But these guys are just saying.
Speaker 2: This, like whoa absolutely you know he met him.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you know this at the Rosemary Baby Rosemary's
Baby screening.
Speaker 1: Uh and so he met Levey in sixties or something
there Where was it screened?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: You know, I can't recall his I forgot because I
just saw it the other day where it was, but
it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's kind of where I think the.
Speaker 3: Roman Polanski or Roman Polanski kind of connection kind of
pops up there with Sharon Tate, Charles Manson, processed Church.
It's kind of like a weird trilateral connection there. And
then honestly, just to add some credence to that, Roman
Polansky can't even come back to America because you know
what he did to like some thirteen year old child
or something too.
Speaker 1: There were too like he was actually convicted, he skipped
before he got sent this this is my understanding.
Speaker 3: And somebody who was it, oh man, somebody was just
trying to get was advocating to get him back here.
Speaker 2: Who was it?
Speaker 1: Dude was probably Trump?
Speaker 3: Who knows it was either it was him or like
Kubrick or like somebody else like that where it was
like a weird name where I was like what whenever
he was alive maybe, But there's a.
Speaker 1: Tie of Polanski's attorneys to Epstein there in the files
in it's just the overlap is off the charts, and
that was kind of Polanski's thing, Like he moved to
France and apparently abuses girls over there as well. There's
a whole like series of research about the girls that
he's been around in France, really young girls, fifteen year old,
sixteen year olds. But here was a Keno. Seventy one
year after serving in Vietnam. A Kino was already ranked
as Magister Caverns at level four within the Church of
Satan hierarchy. He was also editor of its publication, The
Cloven Hoof, and would later sit on its governing council
of nine in nineteen seventy three, a to the previously
unattained rank of Magistrate Templey. He had become, by all accounts,
of Love's right hand man, and Aquino saw his life
and mission as one of destroying the influence of conventional
religion and human affairs.
Speaker 2: And we saw the excerpt of that in Mindstar, where
he's kind of saying religion has no power.
Speaker 3: They don't even know anything about the afterlife or how
to experience anything.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I remember Giermo del Toro. He advocated for Roman Polanski
to come back. Wow, And he created the Frankenstein movie.
He's been on Joe Rogan a few times, so we've
got this connection popping up again.
Speaker 2: Wow. Harrison Ford, Woody Allen, amongst others, also wanted him
to come and be you know, come back without being
in trouble. So that's a little telling.
Speaker 1: Wow. And there's like there's him making his connection a
Kino to Croley. He's crole and of Horus nineteen sixty six,
Leave and Satan nineteen seventy five, Keno and up Set
nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's what the book of coming forth by night.
So they're always trying to tie themselves back to Curly Yeah,
almost any and even Levey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Maga. I mean, look at you know, the
White House.
Speaker 3: They repost Drake's album, the sixty sixty six Hands Sign, right,
But who's Drake signed to? He signed to ovoh, like otoh,
it's like one letter off from Oteo and it's you
know a lot of weird Crowley and stuff that goes
on with.
Speaker 2: Maga in general. So they were just posting double O.
Speaker 3: Seven the other day, you know, just to add to it.
Speaker 1: So there he is this guy Myers cover bind Bore.
So it's in this book too, son of Wow.
Speaker 3: Doctor Keno settled into a life of teaching political science
at the Golden Gate.
Speaker 2: I did read this.
Speaker 3: I found this online and was reading this the other
day while I was trying to this is the only
piece of information you can find some good research on
regarding him and the Zodiac killings.
Speaker 1: And this is what I covered too. Is like on
this other thing about Aquino, a federal grand jury spent
ten months in San Francisco investing the allegations of children
sixty youngest had been bruised at Pretty Presidio and that
was one of the killings of the the guy in
the cab and one of the Zodiac killings was killed
like two blocks. I mentioned that earlier.
Speaker 3: Oh, Gero del Toro is not on Rogan, but Rogan
talks about his movies a lot.
Speaker 2: He just loves his movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah I did misspoke there. He hasn't been on it,
but Rogan loves his movies. Uh yeah, but he definitely
was the one who advocated for him to come back crazy.
Speaker 1: If I can get this this higher.
Speaker 3: But speaking of Tarantino, I mean he made the movie
about the Charles Manson killings, you know, a crazy rendition
of that too, right. I wonder how much he knows
about the background of Roman Polanski, Like he's in that world,
you know what I mean, He's gotta know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gotta know. I don't think you can play
that dumb? Can I bring up your thing though?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah here, let me pull it back up here.
I'm ready, all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that son of Zodiac checked out that book. It's good. Yeah,
and I'll repost that interview.
Speaker 2: Did so? Michael A Keno?
Speaker 3: Uh, there's a picture of him and a sketch of
the Zodiac Killer next to his face. It looks very similar.
I don't know if you ever wear glasses, but looks
very similar. It almost looks like I pointed this out
the other day. It almost looks like the guy who
robbed the plane and jumped off to right.
Speaker 1: It's so God, what's.
Speaker 3: His name, dB Cooper? He kind of looks like dB
Cooper as well. If you look at the sketch at him,
it looks just like a Keno. Wouldn't that be crazy.
Speaker 1: It would be crazy.
Speaker 3: Guys just involved in everything. I don't know anything about,
like if that's you know, the case. I'm just thinking
about how wild I wouldn't be surprised though it talks
about figuring Black has a real name. Is Michael Akino,
as the story goes as Satan pumping Vietnam veteran MK
ultra programmer for the CIA was the person who was
in charge of not only the finders.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true, but that'd be crazy too,
but also terrorized kids at his home for the help
of his wife, Lilith Thikino.
Speaker 2: The Presidio cases.
Speaker 3: What they're referring to is he able to control the
resources of the NSA, which includes, but is not limited to,
phone and email tappings, computer monitoring, satellite surveillance, and may
have control over elf an electromagnetic brain manipulation. This is
from the MP and My Patriots Network. I don't know
how legit that is, but you can find this link
and kind of read more about it here as well.
Speaker 1: Tolkien Studies says Tarantino said we should bring Polanski back
on STARN So.
Speaker 2: There you go. Wow. So this person kind of goes
into it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I've heard of Douglas Dwayne Deetrich. I know he said
he worked under a Kino like I've seen that guy.
He's independent. I don't know if he's still around. Do
you know if he's still around, Jimmy, if Dwain de
Trich is around, because I've arned vaguely, I mean ten
years ago or five years ago, remember hearing his name.
I don't know if he's on social media or what.
Speaker 3: So it talks about, uh, nine months after the phone
call from the Zodiac saying body will be found in
a church, the body of Arles Perry is found.
Speaker 1: Seventy four to so that the timing is incredible. Oh yeah,
that's Crowley's birthday and it's night in the church and
all this stuff.
Speaker 3: M So it says, I have another reason why it
is Michaelaquino due to the Arles Parley murder call her name.
Zodiac says a body will be found in a church.
Apparently it was reference to Daily City or San Matteo,
which is very close to where he was, I believe.
Speaker 1: And then well there's a there's actually an a keinot
connection to Stanford because his mom went there.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: No, Stanford the university. Okay, okay, So back when it
was like a literal farm, like now it's like this
prestigious international university. It wasn't always like that. It got
more and more prestigious over time. But back when she went,
it was literally that center campus. It was like a
square or a quad and the church is in the
center there.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was pretty much in.
Speaker 1: It was on a farmer was on the Stanford family.
Speaker 3: I mean literally, you have the connection with his mom
right there then, because that's where this chick was found.
The Stanford Memorial Church right right right, that's insane.
Speaker 1: It's totally insane. It's a really nice church. I used
to live there, so I used to, Oh, really there
all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. You was in California? Now are you?
Speaker 1: Are you in I'm in La Okay. I actually knew
the story of Arles Perry. She worked as a phone
person for a law firm, and I knew the I
grew up with the manager of that law office who
knew the whole Like, so when they I think it
was Blaze Valentine Incline at the time or something like that,
or Blaze Valentine, like she worked there I knew those
people knew I knew Blaze, and it was just kind
of like her death was kind of and I've written
about this. There's an article about this that murder of
Berl was very everritt. But her death was kind of
like a spectral thing around that area back when Palo
Watto was much a smaller town. Now it's like internationally known,
but back before Silicon Valley, you know, it was kind
of like, what the hell happened when we just don't
want to talk about it's too dark. He's never saw
I mean, it's never sawd They had the story the
Sons of Sam or whatever, but that guy killed himself.
So the guy who was like it ends up in
this documentary, who was security guard. It's never a proper trial.
It's all very strange.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it goes too, because that's what happened
with Keeno and the Presidiokay, throw it out. Uh so
you know about this obviously the book Ultimate Evil, uh
you know, Son of Sam claims the Satanic Network it.
Speaker 1: Starts started interrupt again, but the Ultimate Evil starts with
the death of Arvist Perry. That's the way the book
is bookended. So what the heck happened? And this thing
in Berklewood, so I said, earlier sent me and like
you can check my Patreon. He talked to me, who
I've done shows on Burkwoods too, like a mind of
a murderer. But he was saying something like he knew
something about it. But he doesn't. He's not that voluble
about this stuff, you know, he seems to. I mean,
he was stabbed literally you can see the scar on
his throat, like somebody tried to kill him in jail,
like really off him, like he had like sixty stitches
or something.
Speaker 2: And he's out now, isn't he like a lot?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, he's never getting out.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know why I thought he's a lot.
Speaker 1: If he became he was actually a practicing Satanist all
the way up until nineteen eighty eight. So even after
wow the and he's this is his own admission, he
was a practical He would do rituals and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: When did the ultimate ego come out?
Speaker 1: Seventies I think the seventy or eighties, I don't remember really,
But then he had it, like he became born again Christian.
He carries around a Bible. He renounced all that other
earlier stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean, he literally says that Satanic networks connect you know,
Manson case and the Peri murder case. But that's crazy
he would say that while he's still a Satanist.
Speaker 2: It's wild.
Speaker 3: Yes, that must be the connection with the you know,
because obviously he says that, so there's not much he
can find solid, you know, smoking gun wise, he was.
Speaker 1: Part of a smaller Satanic group that kind of melded
in with the Processed Church. According to him, like he
was on some group of like twenty one, and then
they got even bigger and they hung out at that park,
the a cult park, which is somebody probably Chuck remember
the name was. It was in the Bronx.
Speaker 2: I can't recall, but I know what you I remember
hearing about that one.
Speaker 1: And the Tie was like involved in creating the Federal Serve.
It was his, it was his park, and it was
a cult. Man. There's all kinds of a cult statuaries
and stuff there.
Speaker 3: Well, that's crazy because you got the Kirk's family who's
also involved with that, like you know, the UH designing
the dollars and stuff like that, working with the FED.
And then also that weird connection where you see the
picture of them in alistair or a Kino's house.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy, crazy stuff, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: So this is kind of there's another one here.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to click on it, but ninety two
Dave Emery show where he reads Harry Martin Zodiac Killer
conspiracy article. It talks about Temple set A, Keno Hillside Strangler.
That's a good one to check out. Harry Martin Zodiac
Killer can be read by Dave m Roy, so that
might be a good one to check out. And then
of course the insignias and the stuff he uses very
similar to like the O nine A and then you
have the Zodiac Killer insignia. So that's kind of the
connection with like all this weird the symbols and the
cryptography style, you know, approach. And then of course he
was in the Order of the Trapezoid, which had a
lot of astrological zodiac kind of symbology involved with it
as well.
Speaker 1: And I've done a lot of stuff on processed church guys.
I've wrote about the processed Church and Children of the Beast,
I've done all this prairie stuff. I've done shows on
that hot Wood and then Dana Dudaw has done a
lot of stuff on the modern process church.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that the David McGowan programmed to Kill stuff.
I think that might have been you that I heard
about it from, and it Oh man, I mean I
couldn't have I'm so glad I couldn't have done that
Jasper series without reading that and understanding that first. And
of course even the Epstein situation, Like you can't understand
Epstein till you go read David McGowan's book, you know,
describing this satanic pedophile group, elite group that permeates the
intelligence services, these cults and everywhere, and.
Speaker 2: It's ever you know, with the sex trafficking, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And it really just lays a lot of credence to
this idea that it's a multi generational society of people.
Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy when you look where he lived in
Central Park, Like he was Central Park East, but like
you could walk straight west and like go buy the
carousel that's at the end of catching the Rye and
then walk over to the Dakota, which is where Rosemary's Baby.
Speaker 3: I say, Rosemary's Baby.
Speaker 1: Full up a map.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy. It's the Hub right there in New York.
Sure is that's by Hudson right over there, because I
know that's where Crowley was.
Speaker 1: He was by Hudson, he was he was on one
Washington Place, so he's definitely South Manhattan at a very
swanky hotel. Of course, that's where he had the Alamantra working,
where he saw the Gray Alien, about the Gray Alien
before before anything and really wild.
Speaker 3: Tell me a little bit about the coming forth by night.
I haven't had a lot of study into that. I'm
curious about what that like. Give me a little summation
of what that is. You know, obviously, as we went
through Mine Wars, Fine far Mine start has kind of
gotten into the mind of like what he thinks and
his ideology.
Speaker 2: What does that kind of get into.
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't at seventy The Dakota's on seventy two
West and Epstein's on seventy one East, so literally you
could just like literally almost goes straight west from his
place and walk into the to strawberry fields and all
this other stuff like sequences. Where where's the carouseling I
find anyone? Anyway, I It's been a while since I've
I've read I'll have to reread coming forth their original
coming forth forth by Night is a very long book.
It's not like some kind of you know, pamphlet or
something like that.
Speaker 2: It's like his Satanic Bible essentially. That's what I thought.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I judge Abo, how he writes judgement, how
he writes off these books. I'm sure it's not easy
and easy breakdown, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He he believed that it was a channeled book, so
that puts him into kind of like this full sphere
of like Crawley channeling, uh, the Book of the Law
from from a Wasp. So I remember that pretty well.
But I'd have to do another show on that coming
forth by Night.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, we should. I'll look into it too. We should.
Why not? You know, kind of a natural segue into
that sometime.
Speaker 1: The park that I'm thinking about, I'll find it right here.
It's up north. It's called.
Speaker 2: A Keno is in the Zodiac movie with Glin Hall?
Is that true?
Speaker 1: Jill and Hall?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Jillen Hall, is that true? Get out
of here?
Speaker 3: Is Doppelganger? Is the man with the basement? Get out
of here? Is Michael Aquino in there? Or are you
saying that it looks like is.
Speaker 1: A depiction of Michael Achino or in there.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 1: Van Portland Park was one of the places that they
would go to, but there was another one call I
think Overlooked the River.
Speaker 3: It must have been a depiction of them or something,
I guess because they're saying it's the person with the basement.
Speaker 2: I have to go back and look watch that movie.
Speaker 1: We'll have to watch Zodiac again.
Speaker 2: It's been a while, but yeah, I mean it's a
long movie too. There's a lot there.
Speaker 1: The one of the interesting things about Toshi is that
they keyed into one of these like hardcore hypnotists as
a possible guy who was the Zodiac and that is
William Joseph Bryant Jr. They actually had files on that guy,
and he's like totally an MK ultra doctor man. He's
all over the place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about the bald the big bald guy,
right that the Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah and that And
you've seen the like documentary recently that came out about
how they think they solved who the Zodiac killer was
just kind of nip it in the butt. Yeah, he's
just some random guy that like family guy.
Speaker 1: It made a good show. Yeah, the guy had all
kinds of elements to him that looked like he was dead.
I don't know, there's other killings. Like I've done shows
around the zodiac and like some people like put the
body counted over thirty people like be could be associated.
So some of these there could be other, you know,
other victims that weren't put in the original school.
Speaker 3: M here I've got I've got this basement scene. They
were talking about if you want to like play anything
on this not on YouTube, Okay, you know, worries.
Speaker 1: It's just that I have so much problem I have
so under Meyer Park is the name of the park.
I just have so much problem with YouTube. They just
they'll drop it a drop of background music. I showed
this video of this girl in the background. Music was
playing the background. They said it was a copyright.
Speaker 2: I know. I'm quick about that, dude.
Speaker 3: They'll play an advertisement with music on it. I'm like,
before I can even get to the video that I'm
trying to show, they'll play an advertisement.
Speaker 2: It's like, got music. You gotta be vigilant with that stuff.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, no worries, but yeah, check out the
basement scene with Zodiac Killer.
Speaker 2: They got a clip of it, and that.
Speaker 3: Could Our buddy in the chat says that, uh, that
depicts a Keno.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Let's see satan is botch job Newtown one displaying
how does that fit into the Luigi Big Farmer inside?
He went into Central Park and left his backpack at
the carousel at the place where catching the rise finished.
Speaker 2: Insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's totally unbelievable. Like he was, he did something.
He shot the guy outside. I think it was south
of the park. He was, uh, he was. He he
went north into the park, but I think he did
something on like Seventh Street or something like that. And
you have to remember Fifth Avenue is like this really
tony part of Manhattan, and that's what it's like, really
one of the nicer things. That's where Jeff lived. It's
fifth and seventy first good the you know, upper level stuff.
Speaker 3: So a natural segue out of this as we kind
of wrap it up soon, Dugan Alexander Dugan, I mentioned
him to you, and you do really great research. I really,
I know you got a lot on your plate obviously already,
but in anytime you get a chance, check out, Dugan,
I'd love to do a show with you on it.
Speaker 2: But it's interesting.
Speaker 3: There's some stuff I have here written down, got my
analog notes, my schizoe notes here.
Speaker 1: Brian is rumored according to Todd Wood, Brian is rumored
to be the Grand Chin Goon. They keep talking about that.
Manson talked about Manson new hypnotism, and there's actually hypnotism
in the in the Zodiac case, they hypnotize one of
the victims, not the victims, but one of the witnesses
much like man I'm one of the interesting things about
Brian that he was the doctor for the main Kasabian
so he's attached to Manson and Zodiac like you not,
I'll bring up this article to blow your mind.
Speaker 3: So they're hypnotizing fake memories into there so way you
can make sure it doesn't tie back to the Kino
Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: You just don't know. Like that's the whole thing is,
like they're injecting these insiders much like Jolly West, like
very sus people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we know they can replace memories. I mean
that's the thing. It's it's been proven through hypnosis, but
back then they were doing it, you know, under and they.
Speaker 1: Can convince you you're wrong. They do with these techniques.
The FBI does it all this stuff. Yeah, this article, yeah,
oh yeah, it's real. Anybody could find this article, I mean,
this full article. I'm going to try to find it myself.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, send me that sometimes I haven't found.
Speaker 1: This is from January eleventh, nineteen seventy National Tattler. I
didn't even know this thing existed. It's page fifteen. But
super secret black Magic den also linked to Zodiac Killer.
And these are the pictures of these other people I
don't even know, but they're in the Tate murders. But
Nancy Pittman, Diannah Bluestein, and Rachel Morse. They were members
of a desert tribe. And not impicating that these are
like unknown people. But on the bottom there is Kasabian
and her attorney is or was associated or was William
Jennings Bryan. And here's even the article even mentions him
in this thing. It says under indictment for Los Angeles murders,
say they were hypnotized by Manson when he ordered them
to kill everyone in the Taytan Labyanka Holmes, doctor William
Jennings Brian. They got it wrong. It's William Joseph Bryan.
It's a common mistake. Doctor William Jennings Brian, the third
Los Angeles hypnotist and president of the American Institute of Hypnosis, contends, however,
that Manson's followers were brainwashed through a combination of drugs,
erotic rituals, and cult leaders, powerful and persuasive personality, and
months of virtual isolation from normal society. Doctor Brian has
been retained by attorneys from miss Acts, so she's a
full Satanist like Atkins is part of. She is a
member of the Church of Satan. Pictures of her dancing
retained by attorneys for Missus Atkins to testify on her
behalf when the family comes to trial next February. He's
also involved with Kassabian. He's right there on the bottom right.
It's so crazy.
Speaker 3: And the Processed Church is literally located in Hayde Ashbury
where the Hayte Ashbury Clinic was for the MK Ultra stuff.
Speaker 1: And there's literally like Jolly west Is running some kind
of hippie commune house there. That's crazy. A desire to
attain Manson's level of mysticism on what she claimed to
have to be both Satan and God may have been
inspired as followers to emulate his teachings. Staine said, yeah,
so killing a ritual. Fourteen process members who've been in
the United States, I legally since early last year fled
to London when Scotland Yard began invesigating at kidnapping case
in which the victim was tortured with electroshockgo very nice.
So there's a lot of stuff he researchers have like
overlooked on the stuff. But yeah, this article again National Tatler.
I don't know if it's on newspapers dot com. I'll
check one something with us.
Speaker 3: And so was it confirmed that Sharon Tate was a
part of the Processed Church?
Speaker 2: Is that like a thing that was confirmed?
Speaker 3: Because I thought Dave McGowan in his book talked about
satanic imagery like almost like they were doing witchcraft that
Sharon Tate house like before them that didn't have anything
to do with the Manson stuff, like they were involved
in it separate from the Manson murder.
Speaker 2: Is that something real there that I read or there's.
Speaker 1: No doubt that she was kind of in the orbit
of which the movie she was doing was a light
of the eye or something like that. The eye of
the thing where she literally plays a witch and she
repeats a lot of stuff, and she is pictured like
the two main Wickan strains after Crowley are called Gardenarian
and Alexandrian or Alexanders. But there there's these two kind
of main branches and she's pictured with that guy, this
kind of main witch. You said he got his information
with Crowley. It's just him attempting to tie himself to
Crowley in my opinion. But there's like pictures of him
with with her with Alexander's doing witchcraft stuff.
Speaker 2: Do they spell Alexander with the Z.
Speaker 1: No, it's Alexandrian, So it's like the almost like the city,
but it's Sanders is his last name. You have pictures
of this year. I have a I have a good
video of col Basis some of the stuff that Alexanders things.
This is what he looked like. Again, you can probably
just you can probably just look him up on the
pictures of Tate and him are probably online. This is
what he looked like Gardner. It's a little different, but mhmm.
His all the ritual stuff.
Speaker 2: That's uh, looks like a fun looks like a fun guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some really creepy rituals that he filmed with,
like the golden masks and torches and stuff, really hardcore stuff. Yeah. Here,
here it is, here he is, so let me see.
So that's the guy that sanders And here is Tate
with him, Magic Circle, all the writings, all that.
Speaker 2: Stuff, and and who's more moo art.
Speaker 1: I have the devil, that's right? More? Uh. Grimston's real
name was more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert.
Speaker 1: Robert's real name is Robert Moore.
Speaker 2: He denied knowing de Grimston, but said he had met Moore.
Speaker 3: You're looking at him. Manson told me Moore and I
are one and the same. What the hell, dude, how's
he gonna say? He doesn't know to Grimston, but he
knows More. He's the same person. He It talks about
just how Manson was involved with the Processed Church for
a while, and obviously that's kind of that connection with them.
And I just don't think I mean, dude, yeah, I
think there's got to be a deeper connection with that.
I just can't look past it. But I mean, obviously
there isn't a super smoking gun, or else it would
have been found by now. I mean, the best you
get is just the locality of the of the things.
You know.
Speaker 1: Here's another picture of her, An Sanders from something Sharon
Tates Sex Magic of My Witch King. So there he
is in the center, and I guess that's her.
Speaker 3: So some of the original newspapers did depict that she
was involved in some of that stuff and they got
rid of it, if I recall, right, Yeah, that she was.
Speaker 1: There's allegations of a lot of that Polanski was filming stuff,
and I think that there the cops had them, had
the evidence, and I don't know what happened to that,
Like I don't really know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we're gonna have less and less of
this information as it goes on, because now you know,
Google is going to switch over to AI fully.
Speaker 2: Now do you see that it'll help.
Speaker 1: It'll all be like suppressed.
Speaker 2: Man talk about memory holding, right, you know, now.
Speaker 1: In the worst way, you got everybody you got to have. Eventually,
what will be interesting is that people's external hard drives
and the information on their external hard drives will actually
increase in value and become more important because it won't
the information won't have been tampered by AI or somebody
tinkering around, and I've already seen things happen because a
lot of the old pictures of Crowley have been tampered
with or aied, and a lot of people don't know
because like, I researched it before A. I'm so freaking old, right,
I researched stuff before AI. All right, I'll actually bring
up my book about the visual study of Crowley and
people can see the AI pictures because I actually was
watching a Candice Owns video and she brought up this picture.
I'm like, honey, this thing, this is real, This is AI.
This looks similar, it looks like something like that, but
you don't, you know, it's not real, like.
Speaker 2: And that's the dark Enlightenment right there.
Speaker 3: You know, that's like, that is the epitome of the
Dark Enlightenment when you read like what that is, it's
we're getting information from from a system that doesn't experience
reality the way we do. It can't it can't perform
the scientific method based off senses and experiences to really
know reality. It only processes data and information that's inputed
by people who control it. And so therefore your mind
is going to be inputed, your reality is going to
be completely controlled by the programmers of this AI, which
would then lead to a dark enlightenment and negative enlightenment
of the people. And that's exactly where we are today
and it's crazy to watch.
Speaker 1: These are all the old original pictures of Cruley, so
you can check it out visuals. It's only five books.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love you. You have that. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2: I'm getting that. I'm getting that. I gotta get.
Speaker 3: I gotta get all the William Ramsey books on my shelf.
That's I'm gonna I'm gonna stack up a whole one
shelf for it, just your books.
Speaker 1: I should do that. I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 3: That's a good idea. I recommend it. No, I mean
they have my credit amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean the uh the Yeah, this was done twenty twelve,
so this is what pre stuff it's been out. I
think it should say that twenty fourteen publication data. It's
actually republished. That's why it says up. These are going
to be important. Keep all your stuff on your hard
drives and get external hard drives. They're incentivizing people to
use the cloud and it's a huge mistake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, AI is going to wipe out all the important
knowledge and research that we haven't found out about yet,
and you know that we have that we have found
out up until today, and just rebrand our whole understanding
of our history and our reality. And that's the point
that's mine Wars. It gets right into this whole series
we've been doing.
Speaker 1: So Amen, that's so true. Anybody have any questions before
we wrap it up. We're definitely at the ninety minute mark. Anybody,
let me go back to these comments inter Myra Park. Yeah,
that's it. Douglas D. Trick, Yes, and not nice things
to say about Douglas D. Trick pull. I don't know.
I don't you know. I just don't know some of
this stuff. Do you trust the FBI? No, I don't.
I don't trust the FBI at all.
Speaker 2: Henry Lucas, Yeah, yeah, Henry, very good.
Speaker 1: Henry Lee Lucas not his tool. Members of the process.
I've never approved that. Can you send me a evidence
of that. I've heard that Lucas was a member of
the Black Hand, but maybe that's a subset of the process.
I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, you know about his mom, right, like
what his mom did? You're going to be my slave?
I'm going to make you my slave in the afterlife.
She satanically abused him and then he ended up killing
her and then George Bush.
Speaker 2: He's never pardoned anybody. He partoned Henry Le Lucas.
Speaker 1: The only person he parted everybody else want to the
death chamber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's known for doing that.
Speaker 3: So how crazy I mean when you take that into consideration.
And then he says himself that he was given the
Cini to go give to the compound at Jonestown. Come on, dude,
that's crazy. And that's an mk ultra study place. If
you read into it, Bore, it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a CIA. Yeah, absolutely, that's another person who
had some Jim Jones had some kind of weird like
blessed life, like he had weird people around him and
Cia Opera. One of the guy's name was like he's
like a torture man Gione who's connected to other people
and sex sketchy people in South America. It was really
weird and he ended up dead. The other guy ended
up dead as like horrible stuff. Actually did a thing
about Sam Cisco is called City of Fear something about it.
It was about Jim Jones and the death of Harvey Milk,
I think, but it's also strange. The guy White was
very strange, like mentally very strange X from the Vietnam
War too.
Speaker 2: Right time for a red flag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, outside strangler, I have not Thanks everybody for listening.
We have two hundred live listeners. Thanks everybody, really appreciate it. Andrew,
why don't you promote your stuff? I know, I'll try
to remember to put in your discord server in the
show notes. Yeah, I appreciate that six g Agenda podcast.
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next one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, till the next one we can do coming forward
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Speaker 2: Thank you,