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<v Speaker 1>Testing, testing, one, two three. I believe we have a

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers Talk live going on just now. Welcome in. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Ausland. Yeah, I got one of the new hats on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful because it's got the little rope here because

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<v Speaker 1>sailboat or clipper ship and there's rope. Yeah, it's cool,

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<v Speaker 1>it's attached to the hat. I love it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not an emergency live and impromptu live. I wasn't planning

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<v Speaker 1>on doing this, almost at a meltdown a second ago,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get Google to work for me. But I

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<v Speaker 1>said yesterday the show with Justin Russo was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the last Clippers Talk show of the week and

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody can let me know, ooh, j Bo's eighty

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<v Speaker 1>four already does. Thank you. Jay bos He says we're

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<v Speaker 1>live and he can hear me, and we're good to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So something popped up a little bit earlier today, and

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<v Speaker 1>just to give you a little bit of the rundown

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<v Speaker 1>of the show and why I'm doing this well, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a comment on the YouTube side earlier. It was

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<v Speaker 1>under the Justin Russo show from yesterday at fly by

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<v Speaker 1>Night is where you find Justin Russo and he is

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<v Speaker 1>someone that I look up to when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>and look to guidance with his reporting. He's fabulous at it.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to be a part of his substack or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever Patreon, I don't know, but it's a subscription based

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<v Speaker 1>thing and it's more than worth it because he gives

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<v Speaker 1>out amazing information. I thought that would be the last

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<v Speaker 1>show of the week. I thought for sure that would

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<v Speaker 1>be it. But I got a comment in that show

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw earlier today that kind of puts some

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<v Speaker 1>wind in my sales a little bit. As I started

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<v Speaker 1>this YouTube channel well just about I don't know, a

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<v Speaker 1>month and a half ago, and it was a very

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<v Speaker 1>nice comment that got me excited and inspired and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>want to do a show tonight. It said it was

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<v Speaker 1>from the dang Aliko or DeAngelo whatever. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the last comments in there from three hours ago. It says, Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for finally bringing us Clippers fans the radio

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<v Speaker 1>show we've always dreamed of having. I don't ever listen

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<v Speaker 1>to AM five to seventy anymore now. Some of that

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, there was a bit of a slight.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked for AM five to seventy and I told him, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I at least hope you listen when Clippers games are

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<v Speaker 1>on there and Petro some money and Rogan and Rod

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<v Speaker 1>and you have been working for they're my guys. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodger Station. But it made me think about how

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<v Speaker 1>if I was doing a Clipper show today and it

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<v Speaker 1>was during the off season for AM five to seventy,

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<v Speaker 1>what type of show would that be, what we talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>what would be the subject at hand. It's the off season.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't as much to discuss right now. Well, something

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<v Speaker 1>occurred earlier today. I'm going to share this screen with

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<v Speaker 1>you all right here, right now because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>put a topic to rest. But also it was a

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<v Speaker 1>good jumping off point for just talking about the status

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<v Speaker 1>of Kawhi Leonard and my true thoughts about how I

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<v Speaker 1>feel going into this season given his track record and

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<v Speaker 1>how injury prone he has been. And I haven't really

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<v Speaker 1>done an episode on that yet. I have not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>hinted around it. I've touched upon it in pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>every single episode I have done so far on Clippers

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<v Speaker 1>Talk in these off season editions now on the YouTube side,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, yes, the Ralph Lawler interview is

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<v Speaker 1>coming very soon. Here. I promise Part one. It was

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour and a half long interview. Gonna split

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<v Speaker 1>it into two parts. I was up in ben Organ

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<v Speaker 1>last weekend and I'm proud of the interview and was

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<v Speaker 1>just proud to get to hang out with our friend

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph Lawler again and had been too long and to

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<v Speaker 1>catch up. And I think you guys are really going

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy this, and it's also going to get you

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more excited for this season. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a good time to reflect. And Ralph has been

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<v Speaker 1>what gone for five years now since he was the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of the Clippers, and I know for many of

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<v Speaker 1>you he is forever voice of the Clippers, but he

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<v Speaker 1>stepped down at the end of the twenty eighteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen season. We're lucky to have Brian Seaman. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>lucky to have Carlo Jimenez on the radio side. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>be coming on with me on Monday, coming on in

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<v Speaker 1>this show in just a little bit. Here is my

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<v Speaker 1>voice cracks like it's pre pubescent. Zach Morrison saved by

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<v Speaker 1>the bell because I just woke up from a nap. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have hopefully Chuck Mockler will be here. We

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<v Speaker 1>will have Grant Bona from the Sporting Tribune. But I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do this in a different sort of way

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<v Speaker 1>here where I started things off with an opening monologue

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<v Speaker 1>as I would if this was an A five to

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<v Speaker 1>seventies show, because I go back to that comment I

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<v Speaker 1>got on the YouTube side a little bit earlier today

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of woke up to this as I'm sharing my

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<v Speaker 1>screen with you and what's up William Blast. But this

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<v Speaker 1>guy who follows me on x and follows many Clipper

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<v Speaker 1>fans reporters and is a part of Clipernation, it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like LT sent me something that obviously I couldn't read

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<v Speaker 1>it first had to translate it. He translated in the tweet, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something from something called China Weebo, which I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I had to look this up. Is a micro

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<v Speaker 1>blogging website, so I don't know if it's their version

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<v Speaker 1>of Twitter, a social media website in China. He translated

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<v Speaker 1>it as this quote, there might be some bad news,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me give you a heads up. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait and see what happens during the Clippers media day.

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<v Speaker 1>He claims this is coming from Kawhi, Chinese agent Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>players go over to China during the offseason. Typically James

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<v Speaker 1>Harden has been there frequently, and they have a large

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<v Speaker 1>market there. And I didn't know what to make of

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<v Speaker 1>this at all. And I said, uh, what underneath it?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, China fans were talking about this, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>Kawhai's Chinese agent, allegedly. I said, what is the point

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<v Speaker 1>of this? He said, China fans are now guessing whether

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<v Speaker 1>Kawhi is heard or not based upon this cryptic and

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<v Speaker 1>vague social media post. I said, Cool, I was not

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<v Speaker 1>in the mood when this came out earlier today. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>LT responded, given that she is Leonard's Chinese agent, it's

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<v Speaker 1>natural to make such a guess. First of all, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming that's even true. For the sake of argument, we

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<v Speaker 1>will assume that I said, I'm not into the fear porn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna enjoy my day since either way, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>nothing I can do. Even if there was something to this,

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<v Speaker 1>LT said, still appreciate your reply, man, have a nice day. Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not somebody that's out there trolling, to my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>or trying to raise alarm bells or say the sky

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<v Speaker 1>is falling. He's following up on something that he saw

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<v Speaker 1>and he won input on it. No issue with that whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not this is accurate, who can know at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, because La Murray of the Athletic did react

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<v Speaker 1>to this, which makes me think it got even more traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm trying to quote him accurately here. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure I get this right from La

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<v Speaker 1>Murray and he said this, and I will share the

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<v Speaker 1>screen so you know, I'm giving you the facts here

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<v Speaker 1>and not just making anything up, La Murray said. Source

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<v Speaker 1>close to Kawai says Kawhi is fine also at seventy

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<v Speaker 1>six and mostly cloudy in La today. Check back next week.

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<v Speaker 1>And that put a lot of people's fears aside. It

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<v Speaker 1>did for me too, Why because I trust La Murray,

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<v Speaker 1>I trust our local reporters for the Clippers. I trust

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<v Speaker 1>that that's the information we have to this point, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's all we can go off of. And considering I've

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<v Speaker 1>never gotten a tweet from that Chinese website before, and

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew about his Chinese agent, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to put too much credence into it. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>that I go into the season or go into any

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<v Speaker 1>day feeling totally secure when it comes to Kawai's health

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<v Speaker 1>given what has happened over the last four seasons. Hi

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Tate says, good evening, Adam all the way from

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<v Speaker 1>Spring Texas. Appreciate everybody getting in here. It's not that

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't told you a million times before on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>in pretty much every episode this offseason, that I have

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<v Speaker 1>real concerns about Kawhi Leonard I do. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if this is it all truly related or if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a real report, and until it's substantiated by a

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<v Speaker 1>real Clippers reporter and somebody that there was my alarm

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<v Speaker 1>to wake up from that map actually has a connection

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<v Speaker 1>and credibility to the Clippers, to Kawhi, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put too much into it. Oh, Tomara Zarli's backup, says

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Adam, longtime listener, big fan Tomarya. If the real

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<v Speaker 1>te mayor wants to hit me up and send me

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<v Speaker 1>a text and wants to jump on as well, in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit here we can have a panel, we

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<v Speaker 1>can have a discussion. Already know Grant Mona is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be on. He already responded, and here he's watching right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to lay this out in a certain

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<v Speaker 1>format where a block, Yeah, I'm gonna ranch a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have an opening monologue, and the I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have guests on, just like if it was a real

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<v Speaker 1>radio show. Right now, other people are saying this messed

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<v Speaker 1>up their day, They're about to crash out, they were panicking,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel, and I don't think this is what the

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<v Speaker 1>initial tweeter was saying, or it wasn't his aim at

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<v Speaker 1>least to get people riled up in a panic. He

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<v Speaker 1>seemed genuine that he was looking for understanding about this

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<v Speaker 1>message on a China social media site that may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not be from Kawhi's Chinese agent over there. Some though,

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<v Speaker 1>will use this to aggregate, We'll use this to gain

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<v Speaker 1>more of a following. I'm now using this this is

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<v Speaker 1>a topic to talk about tonight, when and when I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to do a show to begin with, just

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<v Speaker 1>because it does offer a springboard into a conversation about

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<v Speaker 1>Kawhi Leonard and how I feel overall about his health

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<v Speaker 1>and how I feel the Clippers should manage it this

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming season, because there's a lot to this subject matter

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't touched upon it in a real focused,

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<v Speaker 1>narrow focused way, laser focused way. So far this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>We have media Day coming up, by the way, in

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<v Speaker 1>ten days Monday, September thirtieth, So very soon we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to find out a lot about this team, roles, expectations

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<v Speaker 1>from coach lou when the players up there on the podium.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there and into a dome for media Day.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start with this though, because I have

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<v Speaker 1>been preaching this all summer long and before that. If

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<v Speaker 1>you guys follow me, you know that I never bought

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<v Speaker 1>into the narrative of oh Kawhi's fine, going back to

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<v Speaker 1>March and April when he originally missed that first game.

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<v Speaker 1>After the game in Charlotte, He's out against the Sacramento Kings,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody got concerned because I think it started off

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<v Speaker 1>being labeled soreness in his right knee. I waited a

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<v Speaker 1>few games. He still wasn't back. Then I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers were taking on the Denver Nuggets. There were standings, ramifications,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot on the line in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>and he still wasn't back, and people were still trying

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me that no, they're just saving him for

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. He played sixty eight games, most he had

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<v Speaker 1>played since the I want to say twenty sixteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen season with San Antonio, and therefore they had a

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<v Speaker 1>strong enough CD and they were just going to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that he was okay for a long playoff run.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all. It was load management, getting Kawai as

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<v Speaker 1>it was. I never bought it, and it wasn't that. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>now we all know. There was a lot of wishful thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I think from Clipper nation. I understand it. But when

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<v Speaker 1>he misses a game as consequential as that game was

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<v Speaker 1>against the Denver Nuggets, the Clippers won't it. Anyways, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew something was up. I knew it was more than

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<v Speaker 1>just managing Kawai's body and resting. To Marrizzari says, to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, that's the message they were delivering. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get that. I didn't see that. I just saw he

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<v Speaker 1>continued to show up on the injury report. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you can cite something for me, tell Mayor and I

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<v Speaker 1>can bring it up here. I never heard a Clipper

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<v Speaker 1>or spokesman say we're just resting him for the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't pick up on that. When did that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>How did I miss this? Again? Tell Mary, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to come on, I can shoot you the link here.

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<v Speaker 1>Grandmother was coming on hopefully, Chuck Mockler now whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not we knew the significance of it, because eventually it

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<v Speaker 1>went from soreness to swelling, That's when I started to

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<v Speaker 1>become concerned. Then we had the reports, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of speculation that Kawhi's going to go in

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<v Speaker 1>game one, and it was more wishful thinking, He's good,

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<v Speaker 1>He's going in game one. I think actually La Murray

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<v Speaker 1>had that, and then as the evidence changed, he changed

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<v Speaker 1>his mind. New information came to light. He wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>in game one. Once he missed Game one with that

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<v Speaker 1>swelling in his right knee, people started to take it seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing I kept stressing the entire time, if

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to me, was I'm not worried about Kawhi

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<v Speaker 1>giving it a shot to play in this series. I

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<v Speaker 1>know he wants to play. I know he wanted to play,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe did play that Game two against Phoenix on

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<v Speaker 1>a torm meniscus and there have been other times where

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<v Speaker 1>Kawhi wants to play and the medical staff prudently. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think you gotta protect players from themselves. They were

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<v Speaker 1>the ones holding him back. Players want to play. Kawhi

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<v Speaker 1>is a dog. He wants to play. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>tough dude, and nobody is more frustrated than he Clipper

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<v Speaker 1>Nation because he's been going through this. If you read

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<v Speaker 1>that article earlier this summer with some quotes coming out

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<v Speaker 1>from Team USA before he was sent home, talking about

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<v Speaker 1>his journey and how being injury prone is unfortunately part

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<v Speaker 1>of his NBA story. He also tried to look for

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<v Speaker 1>the silver lining, saying, you know, there's players who have

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<v Speaker 1>had it worse than me. There have been players who

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<v Speaker 1>have been through injuries and have never been the same Kawhi.

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<v Speaker 1>You could at least say, and I have been saying

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<v Speaker 1>for years, is up until this point, so far he

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<v Speaker 1>has always come back stronger and stronger and better and

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<v Speaker 1>more efficient offensively. Til Marrizzarli did send me this tweet,

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<v Speaker 1>he asked coach Lou going back to April twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is already, but Kawhi had the April eleventh.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, you're twenty twenty four, quiet already missed a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of time. Till Mayor izzarrely asked coach Low, is

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<v Speaker 1>there any concern Kawhis Leonard his absence could bleed into

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs at all? No, not as of right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's how do you want to interpret that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people were skeptical then, not

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<v Speaker 1>as of right now, because apparently they thought they could

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<v Speaker 1>get a handle on the swelling because they dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>that before with players or with Kawhi Leonard, and it

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<v Speaker 1>eventually subsided. I don't know, but I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a clear direct message. I will say my guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Till Mayor, as most teams are not, people think this

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<v Speaker 1>is unique to Kawhi Leonard when it comes to not

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<v Speaker 1>being as forthright with information. Ask Laker fans how they

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<v Speaker 1>have felt in the past with Anthony Davis. Most organizations

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<v Speaker 1>with their superstars are any player, you're not getting everything.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it is. It's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a crystal clear message. Partly because well, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>doctors in this case were perplexed by what was going

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<v Speaker 1>on with Kawhi Leonard because what we found out the

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<v Speaker 1>swelling wasn't going down. And in going back to what

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<v Speaker 1>I said initially, it's not so much about whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not Kawhi Leonard plays in the series. He did, and

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<v Speaker 1>he played in Game two. The question I had was

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<v Speaker 1>how does he respond after playing a five on five game,

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<v Speaker 1>after playing an NBA game and not just practicing. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't respond well. It was my concern the entire time

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<v Speaker 1>because while he looked okay in Game two, Game three

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even close to looking like himself, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he probably should have been pulled after the first stint,

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<v Speaker 1>just because his basketball powers weren't there. He obviously wasn't healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then postgames talked about it and said, yea, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't respond the way we wanted it to. After Game two.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people that are just coming into the chat here

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<v Speaker 1>are wondering what is happening and what context. It's simply

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<v Speaker 1>from a report that hasn't been verified from China on

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<v Speaker 1>a social media platform earlier today regarding Kawhi Leonard that

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<v Speaker 1>has everybody in a panic and it hasn't been substantiated.

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<v Speaker 1>We have no idea the validity to this. I'm simply

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<v Speaker 1>reviewing Kawhi's injury history now. And giving you my thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on this season and how the Clippers should manage him

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<v Speaker 1>and what to expect moving fowar baby, because here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's two things, and I talked about it with Om

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<v Speaker 1>Young Masuk on Monday that have me concerned. Kawhi said

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<v Speaker 1>when he first showed up for Team USA that he

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the exact quote, but it was something

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<v Speaker 1>of a turning point. Two weeks before showing up for

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<v Speaker 1>training camp for Team USA, he had a turning point,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning it had been almost three months before that turning point.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question was always, well, how long was the

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<v Speaker 1>swelling going on? Nobody's going to have an answer for that.

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<v Speaker 1>We know it was at least a month from his

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<v Speaker 1>last game in the regular season to that entire series

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<v Speaker 1>against Dallas. That's about a month and a half spent time.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I hear something like that and they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get it under control, I worry about it. Everybody does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Kauwhi. It's his right knee, it's the acl me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the moniscus knee, it's the tendinopathy in his right leg.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all is stemmed from that. So not a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>not going to pretend to be. But when I hear that,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't get it under control for a while. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's Kawhi, and now he has missed or missed sections

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<v Speaker 1>or most of the last four years in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>and hasn't been able to stay healthy. You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a higher level of concern. It is completely fair. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you miss something, Rewind, I can't go over it just

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<v Speaker 1>because you showed up, Donnie out of your element or

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<v Speaker 1>NBA talks here. I can't start the show over my

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<v Speaker 1>friend going into this season now. And by all accounts

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<v Speaker 1>before we heard this rumor earlier today which does not

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<v Speaker 1>have quite the weight of I don't know, Coach Lou

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<v Speaker 1>saying he'll be ready for training camp and Mobaba saying

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<v Speaker 1>he'd been working out with Kawhi in San Diego and

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<v Speaker 1>the workouts were rigorous. We learned that from Kelly Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>She taught to him opening night into it. Though for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bruno Mars concert, Kawhi wasn't there, but Mobamba was,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a guy I guess Kawhi has been a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of for a while. They finally brought him over.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned from Joseph Rya Award that that's somebody the

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers were looking to bring in for a time now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's because Kauhi is a fan of Mobamba,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a cool connection. But the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>were working out and its sounded like tough workout. So Kawhi,

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<v Speaker 1>we're hoping is healthy and ready to go, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing more to this report. I'm gonna lean on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of Lotmori, of Tomayr of far Brought Senshari, of

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<v Speaker 1>Joey Lynn, of Andrew Grive hoping he's back on the

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<v Speaker 1>beat this year, and people like Adrian Motrowski, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't lean on him anymore, Chris Haynes and Shamshrania. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's not coming from them, I'm not that worried about

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<v Speaker 1>it yet. I'm just not. I'm worried in general when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to Kawhi's health. I don't think he should

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<v Speaker 1>be playing back to backs this year. I'm open to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of suggestions guys when it comes to Kawhi,

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<v Speaker 1>because they've pretty much tried everything, and even after playing

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<v Speaker 1>the most games he had played in almost a ten

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<v Speaker 1>year period, he wasn't able to go yes when it

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<v Speaker 1>mattered most. Nobody's more frustrated than him, as frustrated as

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<v Speaker 1>you are. Kawhi is a bad mother effort, and we

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<v Speaker 1>know what he's capable of when he's healthy in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>even if he's limping around like he was at times

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<v Speaker 1>with the Toronto Raptors in twenty nineteen, we know what

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<v Speaker 1>he can do. We're desperate to have a full playoff

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<v Speaker 1>run with Kawhi Leonard and he wants desperately to give

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<v Speaker 1>it to cliber Nation. Believe me on that. I just

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<v Speaker 1>the talk from Stephen A. Smith and the false narratives

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<v Speaker 1>that have been out there have obscured reality a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit when it comes to Kawhi and who he is

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<v Speaker 1>and what his passions are. Guys, he loves basketball. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what he loves to do. You talk about Kawhi

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<v Speaker 1>being monotone or robotic, or he's not on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's a boy guy because of that. Well, his

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<v Speaker 1>love and his hobby seems to be basketball. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he's going to give you, not all these other

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<v Speaker 1>ancillary things. I just want him to be healthy to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. There's sixteen back to backs. He can't play

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<v Speaker 1>one side of those. I don't think less something changes,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know why do you risk it at

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<v Speaker 1>this point if anybody should be getting a pass for

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<v Speaker 1>being quote unquote load managed because they've tried not to

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<v Speaker 1>and it hasn't worked. They've tried too and it hasn't worked.

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<v Speaker 1>But we know if he's not playing, there's less of

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<v Speaker 1>a chance of being injured. So if he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>rest one half of the back to back good. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear anything from Steven A. Smith. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear anything from people chirping about I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if they're going to try to call him

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<v Speaker 1>street clothes like they do Anthony Davis, which I don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's warranted. When it comes to Kawhi Leonard, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely fair. How could you not understand him missing

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<v Speaker 1>a game here and there with what has occurred the

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<v Speaker 1>last four years. His body hasn't been able to hold off.

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<v Speaker 1>He has tried, Jennifer, he is trying. See Jim McCollum

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<v Speaker 1>would say he wants to play. They're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>save them from himself. It's not his decision ultimately. If

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<v Speaker 1>it was, he probably would have kept playing in that

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<v Speaker 1>series against Dallas and looked like a fraction of himself,

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<v Speaker 1>which I didn't want to see. And I'm glad they

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<v Speaker 1>made the right decision of shutting him down. He was

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<v Speaker 1>ineffective and it looked downright dangerous when he was hanging

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<v Speaker 1>from the rim and afraid to drop to the hardwood

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<v Speaker 1>because of the impact on his right knee. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear any more of this nastiness out

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<v Speaker 1>there that Kawhi doesn't want to play or that he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't care. It's not true. His body is limited him.

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<v Speaker 1>It has betrayed him. Kawhi's nie may not want to

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<v Speaker 1>play at times, but Kawhi does. That's the truth. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not concerned about his health, look the game

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<v Speaker 1>he left against Minnesota with backspasms. Nobody knew for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. There's murkiness, and it's not just Kawhi,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the only player that you have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>this with. Trust me, it's not. But I know cliper

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<v Speaker 1>Nation and how you felt at times like it's just

415
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>been torture because guys have been so snake bitten and

416
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the Clippers history, but let alone the last five years

417
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>now in the two to three era that we're now

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<v Speaker 1>moving on from because Paul George is in Philly. Kahi

419
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<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite players ever. He was one

420
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.519
<v Speaker 1>of my favorites before the Clippers. Believe me, I want

421
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 1>to see him out there too. He wants to be

422
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:28.440
<v Speaker 1>out there if he can, he will be. If he's healthy,

423
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:33.079
<v Speaker 1>he will be in all reports from the Clippers so far,

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<v Speaker 1>or that he is healthy and will be for trading

425
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>camp period, regardless of some social media website that has

426
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<v Speaker 1>not been confirmed. Okay, the website's confirmed, but the report

427
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>has not been. So let's not give into fear porn

428
00:28:55.519 --> 00:29:04.799
<v Speaker 1>because people are almost more comfortable sometimes panicking or feeling

429
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>like they should or I don't know, some people want drama.

430
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Let's not do it. If something more comes out of this, Okay,

431
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 1>until then, no wait to hear from the people with credibility.

432
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what this show is about tonight, and also talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Kawhi Leonard and maybe what's to come, because I

434
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>have said before when it comes to expectations of this

435
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>upcoming season, well, I don't know. Let me know if

436
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Kawhi plays ten straight games before we talk about championship

437
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>expectations and where the Clippers can end up. I want

438
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:46.039
<v Speaker 1>to see where his hell's at the sky is not

439
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>falling Dabo's eighty four. I think he's mocking me. There's

440
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:56.359
<v Speaker 1>no Chicken little here. I don't feel any differently than

441
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.039
<v Speaker 1>I did earlier today before I saw that report that

442
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I normally have felt out about Kawhi. I'm always in

443
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 1>this middle where I'm like, yes, it's concerning. I have

444
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>my doubts. How much are you going to be able

445
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to play? It's one thing to do all this training.

446
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 1>It's another to play in an NBA game, and then

447
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>how many can you play in consecutively? JM jm I

448
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 1>thirteen twenty four says, I think fans have PTSD because

449
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>of the two one three era. It's like you can't

450
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:32.359
<v Speaker 1>trust no one. But people be apping. Well, I'm guessing

451
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>this is not going to be the last time we

452
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 1>get what could be a false report just to get attention,

453
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:43.559
<v Speaker 1>just to get eyeballs your way, maybe more followers social

454
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.119
<v Speaker 1>media cloud, I don't know, and I want to cut

455
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>it off at the knee is now. I don't want

456
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>people to fall for every social media post that's out there.

457
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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even saying, look, I don't no I

458
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>can't verify this. I'm just saying. La Murray says, no,

459
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with that over this. Clippers haven't say anything.

460
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with that over this, and now I'm

461
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna go with Grant Mona joining us here on Clippers

462
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Talk Live. Chuck Malker might be in a little bit. Hell,

463
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I send out a link to Tillmara Zarli since he

464
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:27.559
<v Speaker 1>was in the chat. Till Mary, we could use some

465
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 1>of your great reporting as always, But Grant Mona is

466
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>from the Sporting Tribune. If you didn't know, he has

467
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the great graphic there. He's at Gmona forty eight. Now

468
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:43.279
<v Speaker 1>on is that on X Instagram everywhere? Oh, Grant, my guy,

469
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.039
<v Speaker 1>I can't hear you. See Now, this is an issue

470
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:50.359
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to bringing somebody in before. I've already

471
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>screened him before pre show. Well, Grant troubleshoes here and

472
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I got you already. Grant, hear you, but now you

473
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 1>can't hear me. I hear you. Grant, You're good. I

474
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.599
<v Speaker 1>can hear you. You can't and now I can't hear you.

475
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>So Grants having technical difficulties. We'll try to work on

476
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>this in the backgrounds here Look, do you trust law Murray.

477
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>It's the law as Clipper Chaos three says Lawler's law.

478
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Trust law Murray. I mean, it's not just first to

479
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>one hundred anymore. NBA talk says we're feeding into it. Well, look,

480
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to make it very clear my objective and

481
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:50.759
<v Speaker 1>my mission tonight because I know more of this stuff

482
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>is going to keep happening with Kawhi, and I don't

483
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>want you to be on edge every second of the

484
00:32:56.039 --> 00:33:00.119
<v Speaker 1>day looking at people who may just be try to

485
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>get attention on social media. That's what I'm worried about.

486
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:11.319
<v Speaker 1>This is one of the first in a bit to

487
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:17.079
<v Speaker 1>bring up something like this. So yeah, other people saying

488
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>end of September, we need anything NBA to talk about.

489
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't need just anything. Trust me. I wasn't doing

490
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a show tonight. Grandma, you got me now, don't hear you?

491
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>You hear me, but I don't hear you. My friend,

492
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.559
<v Speaker 1>as Petros would say, this is called spiraling radio death

493
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and now it's ptasting. I hear you now, and he

494
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>here's me. I don't hear him. Hear him. Yeah, it's

495
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:52.319
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not working, my friend. Unfortunately, I'll keep you

496
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.319
<v Speaker 1>on the background. Maybe we can figure it out. I

497
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.799
<v Speaker 1>just don't want to keep having troubleshoot this, and now

498
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm learning of some of the drawbacks if not just

499
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:07.279
<v Speaker 1>doing this the traditional way. Look, I don't want anyone here,

500
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.079
<v Speaker 1>and I understand we're drawing more attention to it, or

501
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.039
<v Speaker 1>you could be thinking that, well, there's already attention on it.

502
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I saw who I was trending earlier. So how about

503
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>we nip it in the bud. There's already a spotlight.

504
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>This is how I would encourage you to operate. Look

505
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:38.760
<v Speaker 1>to the local reporters, look to Sham's, look at Chris Haynes.

506
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 1>If they have something, then by all means it's valid,

507
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 1>there's validity to it. If they don't, and I'm sure

508
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.840
<v Speaker 1>people are getting at them to wait in on this.

509
00:34:53.840 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Take it with a grain of salt. Grantmona one more time.

510
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<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't work this time, you damn it. Grant

511
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:09.039
<v Speaker 1>you hear me, the love of God, I don't hear him.

512
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:11.559
<v Speaker 1>If other people hear them, well that still wouldn't help me.

513
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Out testing testing. Can you hear me now?

514
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Now? I do?

515
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Do you hear any fact? Look at I always got

516
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:19.960
<v Speaker 2>the Backups, Adam, Sorry about that.

517
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Two books the lyrics, one for Action, one for Backup

518
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>like sa Machine is from three to eleven. All right,

519
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Grandma is joining us from the Sporting Tribune. Thanks for

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00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 1>working through that, and thank you everybody listening for putting

521
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>up with the technical difficulties. So grant you've heard some

522
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of my rant here. Yep, do you understand where I'm

523
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>coming from tonight? I wasn't gonna do, but I felt

524
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:51.800
<v Speaker 1>it warranted speaking on just because so many people are

525
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>latching onto this report that nobody can verify yet. I'm

526
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.840
<v Speaker 1>not even gonna go as far to say it's untrue.

527
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:02.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say there's no way to know that it

528
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 1>is yet, because nobody with credibility has said it is.

529
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 1>That's my position. What say you?

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00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, I think every time, Adam, And first of all,

531
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:14.880
<v Speaker 2>thanks for having me on and putting up with all

532
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>my difficulties. First of all, when I came on, like

533
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:20.000
<v Speaker 2>what was it two weeks ago, three weeks so maybe

534
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 2>a month ago, it looked like I recorded with a

535
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 2>potato But now I'm back with good camera quality. But

536
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.559
<v Speaker 2>of course the mic didn't work. But anyways, back to

537
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 2>the question.

538
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>You have the Ralph Lawler Mike, so this is actually

539
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 1>this was a blessing in disguise.

540
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.119
<v Speaker 2>I love this, Yes, Sir, I always gotta have backups everyone.

541
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.280
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, back to the original question, I think every

542
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 2>time we have anything about Kawhi Leonard's health at this point,

543
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.000
<v Speaker 2>anytime we hear any little bit of information about his

544
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 2>knee or his quad or what's going on with his

545
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:57.079
<v Speaker 2>procedures or you know. Obviously we had the Olympic thing

546
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:01.079
<v Speaker 2>in training camp for the Olympics where we had one

547
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.119
<v Speaker 2>report from the Clippers saying that hey, we wanted him

548
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to be out there, and then Grant Hill of Team

549
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.800
<v Speaker 2>USA it was like, well he didn't look that great,

550
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>so you had that. So every time we get news

551
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:15.679
<v Speaker 2>like this, Adam and I know this is coming from

552
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 2>a Chinese source where we had to translate it and

553
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.159
<v Speaker 2>then get it from somebody that we couldn't really be

554
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>credible with. You know, every time we have something like this,

555
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 2>anything with Kawhi, our intent is go up. But you know,

556
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I think what in these situations, as.

557
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 1>We too a motive from these places to begin with,

558
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 1>because they know that's how we're going to react. I'm

559
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>not saying that's what this is. But I know more

560
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 1>of this is going to keep.

561
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Happening exactly, and you know, the closer that we get

562
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 2>to media Day, the closer that we get towards the season,

563
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's going to be asking this, how's Kawhi's ne Is

564
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.119
<v Speaker 2>he going to be ready for the for the training camp?

565
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Because remember and you brought on Ohm who did that

566
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:00.679
<v Speaker 2>wonderful piece about JVG and Tylu and he said, hey,

567
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>from all accounts, it looks like Kawhi is going to

568
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.039
<v Speaker 2>be ready for training camp. He looks like he's ready

569
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.199
<v Speaker 2>to go. So that's straight from the coach's mouth. Now,

570
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 2>obviously I know Tomayer was in here and he went

571
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 2>around the reports and the sources from way back in

572
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>April where he said, well, he should be good to

573
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 2>go by the playoffs, and obviously that wasn't the case.

574
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 2>So I think, Adam, anytime these come around Clipper fans,

575
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>they get scared, they get kind of anxious because of

576
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.199
<v Speaker 2>all the injuries that Kawhi has had and all of

577
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>the kind of concerns I think we all have going

578
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:36.960
<v Speaker 2>into the season. Now, I think when healthy Kawhi Leonard

579
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>is still one of the best players in the league,

580
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and he showed that last year, right, he played the

581
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 2>most games he's played since twenty sixteen twenty seventeen with

582
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the Spurs, and obviously that kind of derailed his playoffs

583
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.519
<v Speaker 2>in Round one last year. But he played a lot

584
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>last year. So I think that coming into this year,

585
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.280
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be more riding on Kawhi Leonard, There's

586
00:38:57.320 --> 00:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>going to be more riding on James Harden because of

587
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.400
<v Speaker 2>the departure of Paul George. So I think that when

588
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.599
<v Speaker 2>you hear something like this, if you're a Clipper fan,

589
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:08.280
<v Speaker 2>obviously all of your intent is go up because you're like, oh, no,

590
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.159
<v Speaker 2>this is our guy. This is the guy that's supposed

591
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.760
<v Speaker 2>to at least get us to a five to eight seed,

592
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 2>which is where I believe that this team will finish.

593
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:18.440
<v Speaker 2>So if he's out, now what So I think that

594
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.280
<v Speaker 2>it's just built up. And you've mentioned this, you know

595
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Speaker 2>today on the Live is like, you know, I think

596
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 2>they've gone through a lot Clipper fans to where any

597
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:31.840
<v Speaker 2>little piece of rumor or source or any from anybody

598
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 2>it will get them a little bit anxious. So I

599
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 2>think we have to take these with a grain of salt.

600
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Most times, and I love to hear things from law

601
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 2>until Mayor and Joey Lynn and all of our great

602
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:48.800
<v Speaker 2>reporters that do credentialed work for us, because yeah, yes

603
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I am, thank you for all the love. I will

604
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>be at media day as well, everyone, so I'll look

605
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 2>forward to seeing you guys over there. But again, you know,

606
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.119
<v Speaker 2>I think that when we get these types of updates,

607
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:03.519
<v Speaker 2>this late into the off season, this close to training camp,

608
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:06.599
<v Speaker 2>I think all of our antennas raised just a little

609
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:09.599
<v Speaker 2>bit more. But again, law Murray said that he's fine.

610
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 2>I trust law sources, I trust what all these guys

611
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<v Speaker 2>have to say.

612
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:18.079
<v Speaker 1>So and look, I have real concerns about Kawai staying

613
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>healthy and being able to play multiple games in a

614
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:24.079
<v Speaker 1>row right now. And it has nothing to do with

615
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:28.199
<v Speaker 1>whatever this report was earlier today from China. It has

616
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.679
<v Speaker 1>to do with swelling in his knee that they couldn't

617
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:34.199
<v Speaker 1>get under control and information we already knew that was verified.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it has to do with. It goes back

619
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>to what I said originally, I'm not worried about him

620
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:43.800
<v Speaker 1>being out there and trying to play, how does his

621
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:48.360
<v Speaker 1>body respond afterwards? That's what happened from Game two to

622
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Game three, it didn't respond well. And so what concerns

623
00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:00.519
<v Speaker 1>me most is can he just overheat now with that

624
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:05.159
<v Speaker 1>right knee after just too much wear and tear over

625
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the years and being the age of thirty three, and

626
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>there's this threshold he can't go beyond minutes wise or

627
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>games wise, intensity wise, because as opposed to the last

628
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:19.119
<v Speaker 1>two injuries, the ACL tear we saw it with Joe Ingle,

629
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the meniscus. Nobody knows the play exactly. There are a

630
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.159
<v Speaker 1>few plays floating out there that they speculate and they

631
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:27.679
<v Speaker 1>think it could be this or that. It was an

632
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 1>actual tweak of the knee. It was something within tendons,

633
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:39.639
<v Speaker 1>ligament's bone muscle that moved in an unnatural way. This

634
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:46.119
<v Speaker 1>seems to be just overuse, just getting to a point

635
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:49.360
<v Speaker 1>where his body was saying no moss, and then it

636
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 1>started to swell. Swelling is an inflammation is usually a

637
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:57.639
<v Speaker 1>sign of something's going on in there. What is it

638
00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:02.760
<v Speaker 1>That's That's what makes it even more indefinite or murky

639
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:08.679
<v Speaker 1>or an enigma with his injury history, because could it

640
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:15.079
<v Speaker 1>just swell up and there was no actual tweak this time,

641
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 1>It's just because his body is saying, hey, I've reached

642
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:23.599
<v Speaker 1>my limit for this game or this week or this month.

643
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 1>That's my concern, and I have no idea moving forward

644
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:33.280
<v Speaker 1>if that's going to be the case or if Because

645
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.559
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Frank was asked about this at the press conference

646
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about TMSA, Kawhi had a procedure or not, we

647
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:44.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Lawrence Frank was parsing his words rightfully, so

648
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 1>being prudent with it. It is not you know, any

649
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>team's prerogative to let you in behind the scenes completely.

650
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.199
<v Speaker 1>It's not just something that happens with Kawhi Leonard. So

651
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>what he said something to the effect of if it

652
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>was something significant, we would have to report it, meaning

653
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 1>if he went under the knife and it was something significant,

654
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:13.599
<v Speaker 1>we'd have to report it. Therefore, if he did have

655
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:17.280
<v Speaker 1>a procedure, it wasn't significant enough to where they would

656
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>have to disclose. So we still don't know if that

657
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>happened or not, or if the swelling just subsided over

658
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>time and he got back to what Kawai called at

659
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 1>TMOSA a neutral state with his knee, which I do

660
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 1>think might have set off red flags with Tmusa because

661
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 1>he said it, well, if you're in a neutral state, now,

662
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 1>are you anticipating that it could change at some point?

663
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>It kind of begs that question, right, So that's where

664
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming from. It has nothing to do with this

665
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>report earlier today. My concern is rooted in the last

666
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:55.679
<v Speaker 1>injury being difficult for them to seemingly ascertain what the

667
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>treatment method should be to get the swelling down, because

668
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.679
<v Speaker 1>they weren't able to by the time the playoffs arrived,

669
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:03.599
<v Speaker 1>which I think was around two and a half weeks

670
00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>after he initially was out, and they couldn't get it

671
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>down during the playoff series obviously, and then he says

672
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>two weeks before training camp at TSA there was a

673
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>turning point. Well, that was like two and a half

674
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Speaker 1>months after the season ended, almost so was it swollen

675
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:22.519
<v Speaker 1>that whole time? Nobody knows, Grant, and I think that

676
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:26.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff is fair to be concerned about, because there is

677
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, while there's a lack of knowledge, there is

678
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a timeline. At least you could say, well, if you're

679
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 1>saying there's a turning point two weeks BEFOREOSA started and

680
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.199
<v Speaker 1>his knee was swollen from this amount of time, you

681
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>could start to piece together a little bit. I don't know,

682
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:46.159
<v Speaker 1>that's I don't know how what level of concern you

683
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>have because of this most recent injury. I'd love for

684
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you to fill in on this.

685
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, Adam, I think that you know, as we progressed

686
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:57.079
<v Speaker 2>through the offseason, you know those first that first month

687
00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.239
<v Speaker 2>or two, Uh, it was kind of like, Okay, we

688
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 2>just figured that the inflammation is going to go down

689
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:04.639
<v Speaker 2>by Team USA. You know, we just figure that, hey,

690
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be ready for Team USA, because inflammation

691
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.880
<v Speaker 2>is always the thing that you can manage. It's something

692
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.599
<v Speaker 2>that you can get down. But we didn't see that

693
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:15.800
<v Speaker 2>after he I mean, I don't know if he got

694
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:18.440
<v Speaker 2>hurt in the Hornets game, but after that Hornets game

695
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:21.199
<v Speaker 2>where they announced that he had inflammation and they came

696
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.079
<v Speaker 2>back home, we didn't see him until Game one of

697
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:26.559
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs, or excuse me, game two of the playoffs,

698
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:29.239
<v Speaker 2>and obviously, like you mentioned, in game three, he just

699
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.199
<v Speaker 2>did not look right. He was hanging on the rim

700
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.119
<v Speaker 2>for dear life because he didn't want to come down

701
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and hurt himself. So, you know, I think that throughout

702
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.239
<v Speaker 2>the course of this offseason, we were all wondering, Hey,

703
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 2>what is the status of this guy. Does he need

704
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.800
<v Speaker 2>a procedure, does Kawhi need to have a cleanup done

705
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:51.719
<v Speaker 2>because inflammation a lot of I mean, I've read a

706
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff about, you know, from doctors regarding knees

707
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.320
<v Speaker 2>and tendons and quads because of what has happened.

708
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.320
<v Speaker 1>This is what has happened to us. We're all trying

709
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to broad science our way through it.

710
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 2>So you know, and I've gone on our live streams

711
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and I've said, I feel like a doctor right now

712
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>because I'm diagnosing all these and I'm getting them right

713
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:11.840
<v Speaker 2>as soon as they happen. But you know, I think

714
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:16.119
<v Speaker 2>that after Team USA there was concern because you know,

715
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.159
<v Speaker 2>from all accounts, Kawhi walked in with the NIE sleeve

716
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:21.719
<v Speaker 2>and the suitcase and everyone was like, oh my god,

717
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.559
<v Speaker 2>why is he wearing a NIE sleeve? And it's like

718
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:28.159
<v Speaker 2>that's just as soon as he strolled into the hotel.

719
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.679
<v Speaker 1>But he's not wearing a lot in sweat. So nobody

720
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 1>knew if there was a brace on or anything like that,

721
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>and we should it should be a little bit heartening, uh,

722
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.599
<v Speaker 1>when you go off of the fact that Lawrence Frank

723
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:42.719
<v Speaker 1>said he looked good, other players said he looked good,

724
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Steve Curse said he looked good. At one point, it's

725
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.159
<v Speaker 1>weird that he was sent home after all of this,

726
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 1>but it sure seemed like Kawhi was feeling good and

727
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:56.719
<v Speaker 1>felt like he could play. That's exactly, you know. That

728
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>is of note to mention that part of this.

729
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.840
<v Speaker 2>And also I think that you know, a lot of

730
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>people had their fun. And I don't know if this

731
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:06.960
<v Speaker 2>is true, but I don't know if you remember at him,

732
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 2>but he went on a trip to Costa Rica and

733
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, did he go there to get blood plate

734
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.760
<v Speaker 2>treatment or something like that, like Kobe went to Germany

735
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:16.519
<v Speaker 2>to get And I was like, Okay, we are taking

736
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.639
<v Speaker 2>this a little bit too far now, But that's the

737
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of things that you see. And I remember this

738
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.559
<v Speaker 2>speculation back when Kawhi came back from his ACL injury,

739
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:27.840
<v Speaker 2>right because he had that ankle sprain early in that

740
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:31.719
<v Speaker 2>year in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, after he

741
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.400
<v Speaker 2>came back from the ACL injury, and everyone was wondering,

742
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 2>oh is he at practice? Is he gonna are you

743
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna see him at practice? I remember people were hounding

744
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Tomer in the comments like can you get a video

745
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:44.639
<v Speaker 2>of Kawhi? Can you get anything from Kawhi? This is

746
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.320
<v Speaker 2>what we're talking about. I don't know if this looks

747
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:48.960
<v Speaker 2>like a guy that went there to get a blood

748
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:51.119
<v Speaker 2>platement transfer or knee treatment, but.

749
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I think he looks like a guy that's living his

750
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 1>best life. He looks amazing. He looks like a damn model,

751
00:47:57.239 --> 00:47:58.159
<v Speaker 1>is what he looks like.

752
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you should just that hair this season. Maybe it

753
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:03.360
<v Speaker 2>brings some good juju. And there's a lot of people

754
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:05.480
<v Speaker 2>in here that are saying, well, maybe you should wear

755
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:07.559
<v Speaker 2>a knee brace, or maybe you should do something like

756
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:09.880
<v Speaker 2>wear that Tim Duncan brace that he used to wear

757
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:12.840
<v Speaker 2>on his right leg. And I'm I'm just thinking to myself, like, Okay,

758
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.599
<v Speaker 2>that may help with like side to side, but it

759
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.039
<v Speaker 2>is all structural from like being like impact. It's not

760
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.760
<v Speaker 2>really from getting hit. The only one that it was

761
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:24.039
<v Speaker 2>was from the Joe Ingles injury with the acl or

762
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:26.159
<v Speaker 2>he got bumped and he kind of tweaked his knee.

763
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Everything else from that, like the meniscus was just like

764
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 2>probably wear and tear. Then the inflammation was probably wear

765
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.719
<v Speaker 2>and tear. So at this point, Adam, there should be

766
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 2>some concern. But you know, judging off what Tyleru said,

767
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:40.039
<v Speaker 2>and I know that a lot of people don't like

768
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>to take what TYLERU said into account a lot, just

769
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 2>because there's been mixed, you know, feelings about what Tyler

770
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:50.159
<v Speaker 2>says and what the team actually does. But I take

771
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:53.159
<v Speaker 2>what he says into account a lot. And he said

772
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 2>that he will be ready for training camp. There was

773
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.360
<v Speaker 2>a picture of him with the USC Trojan's head coach

774
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Eric Mussel where he said, hey, you know, it was

775
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.079
<v Speaker 2>great to have Kawhi at the at the arena or

776
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:06.800
<v Speaker 2>at the gym. He looked great. Can't wait to watch

777
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 2>him this season. And you know that's obviously another good sign.

778
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:13.960
<v Speaker 2>And that was after Team USA. So you know, I

779
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 2>have a little bit of optimism for Kawhi, I really do.

780
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 2>They are going to load manage him. Let's not get

781
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 2>that wrong. He is going to be load managed this year,

782
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and I think rightfully so. But again, you know, I

783
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:30.079
<v Speaker 2>think his health is what will get the Clippers to

784
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 2>that middle of the pack in the West. If he's

785
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.719
<v Speaker 2>not healthy and you're relying a James Harden led offense

786
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.559
<v Speaker 2>with you know, I think great role players, but him

787
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 2>as the main scoring option. You know that that's a

788
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 2>concern for the Clippers, and it's a concern for Clipper fans,

789
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:46.079
<v Speaker 2>so I could see why people are a little bit

790
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:46.599
<v Speaker 2>on edge.

791
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Look, it's four straight years of Kauwhi either not being

792
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:54.599
<v Speaker 1>able to start a playoff run or finish a playoff run,

793
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>So I completely get where Clipper dation is coming from.

794
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm there with you. My point in doing this show

795
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 1>today is review where he's been and what the best

796
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 1>plan of action could be moving forward for how to

797
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:15.320
<v Speaker 1>handle Kawhi this upcoming season. After it seems like they've

798
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.519
<v Speaker 1>exhausted every avenue of what they should do with his knee,

799
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:21.400
<v Speaker 1>we talk about a brace. It's like, yeah, I'm sure

800
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.840
<v Speaker 1>they've thought of it. We've talked about it. Like how

801
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.360
<v Speaker 1>limiting would that be? And then would you be getting

802
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.039
<v Speaker 1>the best version of Kawhi Leonard Like, there's so much

803
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that goes into this, and he has his own team adoptors,

804
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:35.719
<v Speaker 1>and the Clippers have an extensive medical team, Like there

805
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:40.280
<v Speaker 1>is so many layers to this and just to reset

806
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.400
<v Speaker 1>it all started with a tweet earlier today that has

807
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:47.639
<v Speaker 1>gotten a ton of traction and Hackawai trending, probably for

808
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:52.519
<v Speaker 1>the wrong reasons, from this guy LT who picks something

809
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:57.400
<v Speaker 1>up from China weebow, which is a social media website,

810
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:02.920
<v Speaker 1>a mini blog website that he used to translate this

811
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:06.599
<v Speaker 1>as quote, there might be some bad news, so let

812
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:08.199
<v Speaker 1>me give you a heads up. We'll have to wait

813
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and see what happens during the Clippers media day. And

814
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:16.840
<v Speaker 1>allegedly it was coming from Kawai's agent in China. That

815
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:20.360
<v Speaker 1>has not been confirmed. It has not been verified, and

816
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:26.920
<v Speaker 1>La Murray came forward and actually kind of calmed everyone's

817
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 1>nerves and cooler heads started to prevail after he put

818
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:35.039
<v Speaker 1>out a tweet a little while afterwards, because I guess

819
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 1>he felt like, well, there's so much talk out there

820
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>that maybe I should, La Murray said. Sources close to

821
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Kawai says Kawhi is fine also at seventy six and

822
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:52.039
<v Speaker 1>mostly cloudy in La today, so it's good news overall.

823
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 1>But I know this is going to keep happening, and

824
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I just want to address it now and get it

825
00:51:57.440 --> 00:51:59.800
<v Speaker 1>out of the way. The people you should be looking

826
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to Grant Mona, La Murray, Tomarra, Azari far about Essen Shari,

827
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Joey Lynn, Chris Haynes, Shamshrania. These are people with authority

828
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>on the subject. When they say something, I'll be more concerned.

829
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>And again I don't know that it's a fake account.

830
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to discount it. I just can't verify it,

831
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.079
<v Speaker 1>nor could we verify even if it's a real account,

832
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:31.840
<v Speaker 1>whether or not it's true. With how private Kawhi is,

833
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I know it's an agent, Why would they put something

834
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:39.840
<v Speaker 1>out there like that. You know, it kind of flies

835
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:45.199
<v Speaker 1>in the face of how Kauwai operates. You have to

836
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.480
<v Speaker 1>think about that part of it. Why would we be

837
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:51.320
<v Speaker 1>We'd be getting breaking news from China, from his Asian

838
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.480
<v Speaker 1>in China, if there was an issue, what would be

839
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 1>the point of that. So, yeah, we're trying to go

840
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:02.920
<v Speaker 1>for straight facts here or chaos and sort through the

841
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:07.519
<v Speaker 1>piles of misinformation on social media. Again, I'm not saying

842
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.239
<v Speaker 1>this is what I am saying is I'm going to

843
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:16.199
<v Speaker 1>trust la Murray and his report over this. If things change,

844
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:19.599
<v Speaker 1>if more information comes out, if the evidence changes, then

845
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:23.000
<v Speaker 1>my opinion can change. It's as simple as that. But

846
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:26.079
<v Speaker 1>right now, I'm not putting a ton into it. I'm

847
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>just not Do I have plenty of concern about Kawhi

848
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:33.559
<v Speaker 1>heading into this season, Yes, but this doesn't factor into that.

849
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.199
<v Speaker 1>I already had these concerns with the swelling that had

850
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:41.480
<v Speaker 1>been going on, and how much that right knee can

851
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:45.960
<v Speaker 1>take before swell it swells back up. I just that's

852
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that's my fear that high level basketball can lead to

853
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:57.480
<v Speaker 1>more swelling in that reconstructed right knee, and I think

854
00:53:57.480 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they need a little manage him to avoid that and

855
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 1>do everything you can to avoid that. And if you

856
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:07.360
<v Speaker 1>guys have any solutions, because I thought this was ludicrous.

857
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Just a year ago, I would have said, come on, guys,

858
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:14.079
<v Speaker 1>you can't only play him in March and just wait

859
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:17.480
<v Speaker 1>for the playoffs to start and then implement Kawhi Leonard

860
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 1>back onto the team because he's been so injury prone.

861
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:24.199
<v Speaker 1>You know what, at this point, Grant, I'll take any guesses.

862
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll take anything, because it has been four straight years

863
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>of this. The problem is if he doesn't play during

864
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the regular season and you say just wait till the

865
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>playoffs and then activate Kawhi Leonard, well they won't be

866
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:39.599
<v Speaker 1>making the playoffs. You're going to need him in the

867
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:42.599
<v Speaker 1>regular season because he has one of the highest winning percentages,

868
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:45.760
<v Speaker 1>if not the highest winning percentage in regular season basketball

869
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:47.760
<v Speaker 1>in the history of the game. I know he had

870
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:50.440
<v Speaker 1>it for quite some time. Like they're not gonna be

871
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 1>able to get by in the West if you just

872
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>wait till March to start playing him, That's not gonna work.

873
00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:02.159
<v Speaker 2>And I think people have to realize the Clippers have

874
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:06.480
<v Speaker 2>tried everything. They've tried. The load managing part, they did that.

875
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it wasn't to the extent that they did

876
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.000
<v Speaker 2>it when he was coming back from his ACL injury

877
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:13.159
<v Speaker 2>in his first year with the Clippers, but they still

878
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:15.519
<v Speaker 2>load managed him in that first year that he came

879
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:18.800
<v Speaker 2>to the Clippers, and they've tried it last year where hey,

880
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:22.320
<v Speaker 2>let's see if maybe more wear and tear can help

881
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:25.800
<v Speaker 2>him outlast these injuries and see if that helps him

882
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:28.159
<v Speaker 2>going into the playoffs, and he got to that sixty

883
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.800
<v Speaker 2>seven game mark and then everything went downhill. So I

884
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:35.199
<v Speaker 2>think Clipper fans have to realize, like they've tried almost

885
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:38.079
<v Speaker 2>everything they can from a health standpoint in terms of

886
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:40.840
<v Speaker 2>let's play him more, let's play him less, let's play

887
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:42.719
<v Speaker 2>him maybe middle of the road, and then let's not

888
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:46.360
<v Speaker 2>do that. So you know, at this point there should

889
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:50.360
<v Speaker 2>be concern. There really should, But their season and the

890
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:54.599
<v Speaker 2>way they play this season will ride on how Kawhi

891
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:57.400
<v Speaker 2>plays and how he feels and if he'll play in

892
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 2>the back to backs, if any how many games he plays,

893
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:02.840
<v Speaker 2>if he will be at that All NBA level that

894
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:05.760
<v Speaker 2>he was last year, because he played sixty seven games

895
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:08.559
<v Speaker 2>and guys, he's still won second team All NBA. That's

896
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:11.159
<v Speaker 2>how good he is when he's healthy. But obviously that

897
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 2>sixty seven games and playing the back to backs and

898
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:17.480
<v Speaker 2>not worrying about taking any rest that hurt him in

899
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the long run. So you know, at this point, you

900
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:25.519
<v Speaker 2>know people should be concerned. They should, and this season

901
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:29.280
<v Speaker 2>more than ever because last year you had the three

902
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:32.360
<v Speaker 2>stars of Russell Westbrook, James Harden, and Paul George. If

903
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Kawhi was out. This year, the scoring is going to

904
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:39.400
<v Speaker 2>remain on Kawhi, It's going to remain on James Harden,

905
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and then I think Vitza Zuba is going to have

906
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:44.719
<v Speaker 2>to be the third scoring option for the team. But

907
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:47.519
<v Speaker 2>he's going to have to carry the scoring volume, which

908
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:49.480
<v Speaker 2>means the ball's going to be in his hands more,

909
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.119
<v Speaker 2>which means that he's going to have to be out

910
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:54.719
<v Speaker 2>there more, which means there's more strain on his knees,

911
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:58.199
<v Speaker 2>which means the inflammation, like you mentioned Adam could kick

912
00:56:58.280 --> 00:56:58.719
<v Speaker 2>up again.

913
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:02.800
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I hope not, but it seems like

914
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:05.920
<v Speaker 1>we both ability at this point right Like to act

915
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.679
<v Speaker 1>like that can't happen when we just saw it happen,

916
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:11.760
<v Speaker 1>when it's been four years of this would be disingenuous.

917
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't put a happy face on everything, Clippers fans,

918
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't spin everything, and I don't want to. I

919
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:20.519
<v Speaker 1>want to give you the gods honest truth about the situation,

920
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:23.840
<v Speaker 1>so you're prepared for everything. I think that's where Grant.

921
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I know that's where Grant's coming from as well. I

922
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:30.519
<v Speaker 1>can't just say Kawhi is fine. Everyone is talking about

923
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:33.920
<v Speaker 1>this is sad Clippers versus Pacers in the NBA Finals

924
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:37.880
<v Speaker 1>for the title in four Clippers when it six. I

925
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:40.960
<v Speaker 1>can't stay say stuff like that. I just I can't

926
00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:44.079
<v Speaker 1>because I need to see him play ten games straight. First,

927
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:47.920
<v Speaker 1>play ten games straight. Then let's talk about Kawhi his

928
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:51.880
<v Speaker 1>health in what this Clippers ceiling is. Because in the playoffs,

929
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:55.719
<v Speaker 1>why you don't have back to backs a seven game series?

930
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:58.559
<v Speaker 1>If it goes seven? Can he play seven games straight

931
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:03.239
<v Speaker 1>right now? I don't know that. Melvin Powell, I'm glad

932
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you're staying positive, man, and I'm glad you're saying, Hey,

933
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Kawhi Leonard will be in the MVP race this season,

934
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:11.679
<v Speaker 1>and Chris Dunn is going to become an NBA All

935
00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Defensive Team member selection along with Derek Jones Jr. I'm

936
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:19.000
<v Speaker 1>glad you're making all these predictions that seem overly optimistic.

937
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be overly realistic. If anything, Kawhi went

938
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:29.320
<v Speaker 1>through a stretch last season where he set the all

939
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:33.079
<v Speaker 1>time efficiency record over a thirty game span where he

940
00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:36.320
<v Speaker 1>was putting up god tier numbers. I want to say

941
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:39.199
<v Speaker 1>it was fifty seven to fifty one, ninety splits or

942
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:42.440
<v Speaker 1>something like that, where Adrian war Jurowski had to take

943
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:43.880
<v Speaker 1>note of it at one point and put out the

944
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.400
<v Speaker 1>tweet after I've been talking about it for damn near

945
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:50.039
<v Speaker 1>two months and saying hashtag Kawhi or Claw for MVP.

946
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:54.079
<v Speaker 1>And guess what, They still didn't have him top five

947
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:58.000
<v Speaker 1>in MVP voting. They still didn't have him top five

948
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>on Bovada when it came to MVP odds. So to

949
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>say he's gonna be the MVP year or being the race,

950
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:08.079
<v Speaker 1>it's like, do you guys understand what he did last season?

951
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:12.159
<v Speaker 1>And they still were not giving him the love and respect.

952
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.559
<v Speaker 1>At one point more people started to talk about it.

953
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:19.159
<v Speaker 1>But I just I'm gonna be honest and keep it

954
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:23.199
<v Speaker 1>real about the Kawhi Leonard situation. Let me know when

955
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:26.719
<v Speaker 1>he plays ten straight games, let me know. Because there's

956
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:29.000
<v Speaker 1>two back to backs coming up in the first two

957
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:32.559
<v Speaker 1>weeks of the season. Four of their first six games

958
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:35.360
<v Speaker 1>are back to backs. I don't think he's gonna be

959
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.280
<v Speaker 1>playing in back to backs. I don't think he should

960
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:42.960
<v Speaker 1>be playing in back to backs. But eventually, if the

961
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Clippers are going to make a run, he has to

962
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:50.199
<v Speaker 1>be able to sustain this high level of play game

963
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:53.199
<v Speaker 1>to game and be available game to game, and that

964
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:56.119
<v Speaker 1>just hasn't been the case unfortunately. As much as he

965
00:59:56.159 --> 00:59:58.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to play last year. And I think and Om

966
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.039
<v Speaker 1>said this on Monday on the show Ome Youong Masouk

967
01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:04.840
<v Speaker 1>that Kawhi didn't want to load manage, that Kawhi wanted

968
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to play every game last season. Well, I don't know

969
01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:10.599
<v Speaker 1>if they're gonna let him even if he wants to,

970
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:14.679
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know how you could when his body

971
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:18.599
<v Speaker 1>has continued to break down at a certain point. I wonder, Grant,

972
01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:21.960
<v Speaker 1>if there's something to what the Toronto Raptors did that season,

973
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.159
<v Speaker 1>because I know he's had multiple injuries since then, so

974
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:28.880
<v Speaker 1>it changes the equation. But they came into the year

975
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:32.679
<v Speaker 1>saying this is the limit. Right off top, He's not

976
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 1>playing more than this amount of games. In fact, I

977
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:37.880
<v Speaker 1>want to pull out the exact amount because it was

978
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:41.880
<v Speaker 1>sixty eight last season. It was sixty in Toronto, and

979
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:45.079
<v Speaker 1>I believe Grant correct me if I'm wrong. They were

980
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:49.159
<v Speaker 1>transparent immediately saying this is the amount that he's able

981
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.320
<v Speaker 1>to play during the regular season in Toronto.

982
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:56.079
<v Speaker 2>It was true. And coming coming into that season in

983
01:00:56.159 --> 01:01:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Toronto that was after his quad injury, and people were saying, oh,

984
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:03.039
<v Speaker 2>how bad is the quad injury, because there's a lot

985
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:06.159
<v Speaker 2>of questions about that. Obviously it ended up working out

986
01:01:06.199 --> 01:01:09.079
<v Speaker 2>pretty well. But if we remember, late into that twenty

987
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:12.280
<v Speaker 2>nineteen run that they had, Kawhi was hobbling around on

988
01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:14.480
<v Speaker 2>that knee. I remember he dunked on Giannis and it

989
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:16.559
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, can he even walk?

990
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:21.079
<v Speaker 1>So with the left hand off the little scoop under

991
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Lowry.

992
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love that twenty nineteen Raptors team.

993
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Speaker 2>But that's another conversation. But you know, late into that run,

994
01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:32.719
<v Speaker 2>it was like can Kawhi finish out the year because

995
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:35.199
<v Speaker 2>it looked like his quad was acting up again, and

996
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:38.079
<v Speaker 2>that was coming off of a quad injury. This is

997
01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:42.599
<v Speaker 2>coming off of multiple knee injuries with meniscus and ACL

998
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:46.880
<v Speaker 2>and actual tendons and cartilage. So I feel like if

999
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:49.559
<v Speaker 2>you straight up announce that media day, or if you

1000
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:53.239
<v Speaker 2>announce early into this training camp that hey, this is

1001
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:55.760
<v Speaker 2>our plan for Kawhi, this is what we're gonna do,

1002
01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:59.119
<v Speaker 2>and Raptors fans didn't care. They were like, listen, any

1003
01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:01.559
<v Speaker 2>bit of Kawhi that we get is an upgrade of

1004
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:05.079
<v Speaker 2>what we had last year. So they were okay with it.

1005
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:07.639
<v Speaker 2>They were like, listen, we know that he's a playoff performer.

1006
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:09.880
<v Speaker 2>We know that if he's healthy going to the playoffs

1007
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 2>that he will be good. And he was good and

1008
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:14.639
<v Speaker 2>he led him to their first championship. So I think

1009
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:17.280
<v Speaker 2>that them, you know, the Clippers coming out this year,

1010
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:19.440
<v Speaker 2>whoever it is, coming out this year and saying listen,

1011
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:23.400
<v Speaker 2>we know the injury history. We've accepted the injury history.

1012
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:27.239
<v Speaker 2>It's okay to know that he's you know, he's not

1013
01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:29.280
<v Speaker 2>the same guy that he was in his early twenties

1014
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:33.079
<v Speaker 2>when he played for San Antonio. We know that he's had.

1015
01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:36.119
<v Speaker 1>I'll want to speak upon that because I'm of the

1016
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:39.480
<v Speaker 1>opinion grant that even though he has had these injuries

1017
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and acl meniscus, the tendonopathy and people keep saying he

1018
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:47.800
<v Speaker 1>has a degenerative right knee, nobody's ever come out and

1019
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:50.679
<v Speaker 1>actually said that from the clipperside or from his trainers

1020
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.800
<v Speaker 1>at any of his stops. And maybe you can argue,

1021
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:57.159
<v Speaker 1>well why would they, But you are doing a lot

1022
01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:02.000
<v Speaker 1>of bros Science there. You're kind of just you're putting

1023
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:05.000
<v Speaker 1>puzzle pieces together. I'm not gonna say that. I'm gonna

1024
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:09.400
<v Speaker 1>say what has been articulated and what has been labeled

1025
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:14.639
<v Speaker 1>these injuries for Kawhi. But I'll say this every time

1026
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:17.679
<v Speaker 1>to me, he has come back, he's gotten more efficient

1027
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.880
<v Speaker 1>on the offensive end, and he's become a better player.

1028
01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's because of the injuries, but the

1029
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:25.920
<v Speaker 1>guy works on his craft so much that he just

1030
01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:29.559
<v Speaker 1>gets better and better regardless of the obstacles that have

1031
01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:32.679
<v Speaker 1>been thrown at him with setbacks due to injuries. I

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01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:38.159
<v Speaker 1>know he doesn't have the octopus level defense possession to

1033
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:41.280
<v Speaker 1>possession that he used to have, but when he needs

1034
01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:46.239
<v Speaker 1>to ramp up and wants to It's still there. That

1035
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:49.639
<v Speaker 1>is what that's astounding to me, because here's the thing.

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01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Kawhi is a left legged leaper. It's his right leg

1037
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:58.280
<v Speaker 1>that has gone through all this. He can still get up.

1038
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:02.079
<v Speaker 1>That's not a problem for him. So while the injuries

1039
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:05.679
<v Speaker 1>have compounded and they have been consistent over the last

1040
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:10.800
<v Speaker 1>four or five years, he continues to evolve. And I

1041
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:14.639
<v Speaker 1>would say offensively, what we saw in those thirty games

1042
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:17.400
<v Speaker 1>when he was putting up those efficiency numbers, that is

1043
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the best version of Kawhi Leonard in the regular season

1044
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:22.559
<v Speaker 1>we ever saw. And that's coming off an acl meniscus.

1045
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so people like don't understand that Kawhi probably had

1046
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:29.719
<v Speaker 2>one of his most efficient and best offensive years that

1047
01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:32.639
<v Speaker 2>we've ever seen. His three ball went up, he started

1048
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:35.320
<v Speaker 2>shooting a three ball more, and he started making it more.

1049
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:39.440
<v Speaker 2>His efficiency was insane across the board. And I know

1050
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:42.039
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned the WOJE tweet that he put out there

1051
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:44.280
<v Speaker 2>that listed all of the numbers that he had. And

1052
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.000
<v Speaker 2>this isn't just a two week stretch. This isn't just

1053
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:49.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, oh, he had a great five game stretch.

1054
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Kawhi was unbelievable for like over a month. I mean,

1055
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:56.159
<v Speaker 2>look at these stats here. I mean it's not just

1056
01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:58.400
<v Speaker 2>the points per game, It's not just you know, the

1057
01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:01.400
<v Speaker 2>fact that he was moving well, the efficiency at which

1058
01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:04.599
<v Speaker 2>he was getting to his spots, the efficiency of which

1059
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:09.119
<v Speaker 2>he was shooting, it was unbelievable. So when you see it,

1060
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:13.360
<v Speaker 2>whenever you see first player to average all time, that

1061
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:16.639
<v Speaker 2>means that he's probably still in his prime, which you know,

1062
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 2>people have to understand when they think of Kawhi. You know,

1063
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:21.239
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the general consensus when people think about

1064
01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:23.559
<v Speaker 2>Kawhi right now is, oh, he's not the same as

1065
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:26.679
<v Speaker 2>he used to be. Yes, maybe defensively, like you said,

1066
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:28.800
<v Speaker 2>he maybe he's lost a little bit of that step.

1067
01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:31.280
<v Speaker 2>But we saw him make a chase down block on

1068
01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Shay Gil just Alexander against the Thunder this past year.

1069
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:37.239
<v Speaker 2>We saw him lock in many times and get just

1070
01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:41.280
<v Speaker 2>rip away steals. I remember the one against Portland in

1071
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Portland where he was on a fast break and went

1072
01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:45.800
<v Speaker 2>up and under and had an and one. So he

1073
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:49.280
<v Speaker 2>still has that burst as well. I think it's that's

1074
01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:52.679
<v Speaker 2>what makes it so frustrating for Clipper fans and for

1075
01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:54.719
<v Speaker 2>people that love the game, is that when this guy

1076
01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:58.519
<v Speaker 2>is healthy He's still a top five player in the NBA.

1077
01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:02.320
<v Speaker 2>He's still a top five performer in the NBA. And

1078
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:04.760
<v Speaker 2>it's just, you know, the fact that his health keeps

1079
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:07.800
<v Speaker 2>letting him down. But this notion that Kawhi Leonard is

1080
01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:10.239
<v Speaker 2>not the same player that he was in Toronto, everyone's like, well,

1081
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:13.440
<v Speaker 2>imagine if the Clippers got Toronto Kawhi Leonard. It's say,

1082
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:14.400
<v Speaker 2>hold on a minute.

1083
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.320
<v Speaker 1>He was better than twenty twenty one during their playoff

1084
01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:20.320
<v Speaker 1>run before he went down. Then, like we talk about

1085
01:06:20.360 --> 01:06:23.400
<v Speaker 1>these numbers, and this is the stretch we're talking about

1086
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:27.639
<v Speaker 1>from last season. Over a thirty game stretch, Kawhi was

1087
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:30.840
<v Speaker 1>getting twenty six points per game while shooting fifty seven

1088
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:34.440
<v Speaker 1>percent from the floor, fifty one percent from three, ninety

1089
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:36.320
<v Speaker 1>two percent from the free throw line. He was the

1090
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:39.039
<v Speaker 1>first player to average at least twenty five points and

1091
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:41.920
<v Speaker 1>a fifty five to fifty to ninety shooting split, which

1092
01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.639
<v Speaker 1>was actually above that over any thirty game span in

1093
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:51.400
<v Speaker 1>NBA history. Guys, do not tell me Toronto Raptors Kawhi

1094
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:55.039
<v Speaker 1>was better than this. He wasn't. He was healthier. You

1095
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:58.480
<v Speaker 1>can of course make that argument, he wasn't better than

1096
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:02.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one Kawhi which had another all time run

1097
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and make it twenty twenty one in the first round,

1098
01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:12.519
<v Speaker 1>and the numbers he was putting up, they were shack numbers.

1099
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:20.679
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anything like Kawhi Leonard at his peak, honestly, Grant,

1100
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:23.519
<v Speaker 1>I say this all the time. I think he is

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01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:29.159
<v Speaker 1>a top ten playoff performer ever, Like he is like

1102
01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:31.960
<v Speaker 1>ever in the history of the game. Maybe top five,

1103
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:35.679
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know if I can find I don't

1104
01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:38.320
<v Speaker 1>think I can find nine guys ahead of him. Like

1105
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:40.719
<v Speaker 1>look at this against the Dallas Mavericks in that first

1106
01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:44.639
<v Speaker 1>round series in twenty twenty one. So he's out there

1107
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:48.880
<v Speaker 1>putting up Shack level efficiency thirty points per game on

1108
01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:53.679
<v Speaker 1>sixty percent shooting while taking on average his shots from

1109
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:59.159
<v Speaker 1>almost ten feet further back. That is insane. Like we

1110
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:03.360
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen any his mid range. It might even be better.

1111
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:06.599
<v Speaker 1>People don't want to hear this, like efficiency wise that

1112
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:12.719
<v Speaker 1>MJ's was. Hey mine, I'm just it's historic what Kawhi

1113
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.880
<v Speaker 1>has done into the playoffs and who he's been as

1114
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:19.640
<v Speaker 1>a player when he is healthy. Can we get him healthy?

1115
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:21.479
<v Speaker 1>And we got some questions coming in here, Grant, So

1116
01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:23.800
<v Speaker 1>let's get to him sure, Jonathan Ings says, what is

1117
01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:25.840
<v Speaker 1>also the plan for Harden to make sure he doesn't

1118
01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:28.640
<v Speaker 1>get overextended like last season when we saw a dip

1119
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:32.600
<v Speaker 1>in his play host All Star Break. What do you

1120
01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:34.880
<v Speaker 1>think about that, Garret, I.

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01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Don't know if there is a plan right now. We

1122
01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:39.520
<v Speaker 2>have to kind of see what's going on with how

1123
01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:42.520
<v Speaker 2>they use the offense this year. Because if we remember

1124
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Adham last year when they had Russell Westbrook going into

1125
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:48.359
<v Speaker 2>camp and they had him throughout camp because James Harden

1126
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:51.439
<v Speaker 2>wasn't traded yet. Their thing was, we want to run

1127
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:53.600
<v Speaker 2>and gun, we want to push the pace. We want

1128
01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:57.199
<v Speaker 2>to utilize Russell Westbrook's strengths, which is running down the

1129
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:00.319
<v Speaker 2>floor and in transition, and that's what they can aided

1130
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:03.119
<v Speaker 2>their offense around. They wanted to run, they wanted to

1131
01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:06.319
<v Speaker 2>sprint down the floor. Now it's a completely different thing

1132
01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:08.399
<v Speaker 2>coming into training camp. I think training camp is gonna

1133
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:10.800
<v Speaker 2>be excellent to have James Harden around and have that

1134
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:15.079
<v Speaker 2>full off season with the guys, so his scoring volume

1135
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:18.600
<v Speaker 2>will go up, his usage will go up. People forget

1136
01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:21.079
<v Speaker 2>like James Harden's usage last year was actually pretty high

1137
01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:23.920
<v Speaker 2>as well. It's just that you know, we kind of

1138
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:26.640
<v Speaker 2>look around that because he had Paul George and Kawhi

1139
01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:29.479
<v Speaker 2>and they do a lot of ISO actions. But James

1140
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Harden was used a lot last year. His scoring volume

1141
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:34.399
<v Speaker 2>is going to go up, which means his legs are

1142
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:37.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna get tired. And you've mentioned this on many shows

1143
01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:39.159
<v Speaker 2>with all of your guests, is that there was a

1144
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 2>point in the season last year where his legs were tired.

1145
01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:45.720
<v Speaker 2>He slowed down a step and you saw the kind

1146
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:48.840
<v Speaker 2>of decline from his scoring. Obviously, he's always going to

1147
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:50.640
<v Speaker 2>be a great ball handler. He's always going to be

1148
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:54.319
<v Speaker 2>a guy that gets people in their spots. But this

1149
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:57.119
<v Speaker 2>year it's gonna have to be I don't know what

1150
01:09:57.199 --> 01:09:59.520
<v Speaker 2>his points per game are gonna be. Maybe twenty three

1151
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:02.520
<v Speaker 2>to twenty five is probably what we all hope that

1152
01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:04.399
<v Speaker 2>it can be. He's not gonna get back to that

1153
01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Houston Harden forty points per game, thirty five points per game.

1154
01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:12.399
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's not think that way. But there is a

1155
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:16.439
<v Speaker 2>real concern on my end about the overuse of Harden,

1156
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:19.199
<v Speaker 2>or maybe if he's going to have the ball a

1157
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:20.920
<v Speaker 2>lot more, if he's gonna have to initiate a lot

1158
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:24.119
<v Speaker 2>more offense. You know what is he going to look

1159
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:26.680
<v Speaker 2>like in February. What's he gonna look like in March

1160
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:29.680
<v Speaker 2>when we're probably Adam gonna be fighting for a six,

1161
01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:33.000
<v Speaker 2>seven to eight seed, hopefully five seed. That's where we're

1162
01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:34.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna need him the most, I feel like, you know,

1163
01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:37.960
<v Speaker 2>aside from the playoffs. So there is concern about that.

1164
01:10:37.960 --> 01:10:39.640
<v Speaker 2>That's been one of my thoughts that I think about

1165
01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:42.359
<v Speaker 2>all the time because the Clippers are always on my mind, Adam,

1166
01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:45.399
<v Speaker 2>is that when Harden has the ball more and when

1167
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:47.760
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be asked to do more on the offensive end,

1168
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:50.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, what is that gonna look like in February

1169
01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:52.399
<v Speaker 2>and March when you know, maybe his legs do slow

1170
01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:55.199
<v Speaker 2>down and you don't have that backup of a Paul

1171
01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:57.479
<v Speaker 2>George and a Kawhi just doing their thing. That's that's

1172
01:10:57.479 --> 01:10:59.319
<v Speaker 2>one of my concerns. It's true. So we're gonna have

1173
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:01.279
<v Speaker 2>to see. The main just is we're gonna have to

1174
01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:02.680
<v Speaker 2>see what they run in training camp.

1175
01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and how many minutes he's playing compared to last

1176
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:08.399
<v Speaker 1>season where he was only at thirty four minutes, which

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01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I think was a low for him since he became

1178
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:14.600
<v Speaker 1>a number one, number two option type guy. Going back

1179
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:19.359
<v Speaker 1>to his first season with the Houston Rockets. JM Won

1180
01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:24.079
<v Speaker 1>thirteen twenty four says top five is wild. When I

1181
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:27.319
<v Speaker 1>made that statement about Kawhi being an all time playoff

1182
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:30.960
<v Speaker 1>performer and maybe a top five playoff performer, it's not

1183
01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:36.359
<v Speaker 1>bro Now. To his credit, he listed names. K D

1184
01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:40.439
<v Speaker 1>is not a better playoff performer than Kawhi Leonard because

1185
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:43.640
<v Speaker 1>he hid behind the muscles of the seventy three win

1186
01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Golden State Warriors and got two finals MVPs while being

1187
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:50.399
<v Speaker 1>on a stack team that had no chance of losing.

1188
01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:53.119
<v Speaker 1>That does not make him a better playoff performer than

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01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:56.560
<v Speaker 1>to me at all. In fact, just watched the first

1190
01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:59.239
<v Speaker 1>two games against Kawhi Leonard last season when he had

1191
01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:02.239
<v Speaker 1>a better team on his side in Phoenix, and Kawhi

1192
01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was dogging him and destroying him and ripping the ball

1193
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:09.800
<v Speaker 1>away from him and out playing him. Katie's not He's

1194
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:13.359
<v Speaker 1>not a better all time playoff performer than Kawhi or

1195
01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:16.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys. That's just not the truth. Curry.

1196
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if i'd say Curry is either now

1197
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:23.439
<v Speaker 1>since what he did in twenty twenty two against Boston

1198
01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:26.600
<v Speaker 1>without KAD that gives him a bump and I think

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01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:29.159
<v Speaker 1>I could make the argument Steph Curry, and I've been

1200
01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:31.199
<v Speaker 1>saying this for a few years, basically since he won

1201
01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that last championship. I think he is a top five

1202
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:36.279
<v Speaker 1>player of all time. But I don't know if I

1203
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:39.239
<v Speaker 1>can necessarily say he's a playoff riser to the degree

1204
01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:42.000
<v Speaker 1>that Kawhi is, because Curry's actually taken a ton of

1205
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:45.159
<v Speaker 1>flack over the years for not stepping up and having

1206
01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:49.880
<v Speaker 1>better numbers in the playoffs. Kawhi, my lord, his last

1207
01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:53.840
<v Speaker 1>sixty playoff games, I believe he's just about at fifty

1208
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:56.640
<v Speaker 1>forty ninety splits on thirty points per game his last

1209
01:12:56.680 --> 01:13:01.680
<v Speaker 1>sixty playoff games. That's insane. J Hey, sure you can

1210
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:04.600
<v Speaker 1>say that, although his efficiency in his second three PET

1211
01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:07.840
<v Speaker 1>you'd be surprised. It's pretty low. Different game, hard to

1212
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:15.520
<v Speaker 1>compare Kareem Uh maybe different game now we're talking all time. Hakem. Yeah,

1213
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:18.880
<v Speaker 1>he's top five, but Kawai can find can find his

1214
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:22.119
<v Speaker 1>way into this list when it comes to top five

1215
01:13:22.199 --> 01:13:25.800
<v Speaker 1>playoff performers. Trust me, if you just look at efficiency

1216
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and the way he's been able to carry teams and

1217
01:13:28.920 --> 01:13:31.359
<v Speaker 1>how reliable he's been in as a number one option,

1218
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:36.279
<v Speaker 1>the undisputed number one option. I'm sorry, but Kawhi is otherworldly.

1219
01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I don't think it's a stretch or

1220
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:44.720
<v Speaker 1>crazy to say he's a top five all time playoff performer. Yeah,

1221
01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:46.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody else is agreeing Curry isn't either.

1222
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:51.439
<v Speaker 2>There were real concerns about Curry. I mean, if we

1223
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:55.600
<v Speaker 2>remember Game seven of twenty sixteen, he was horrible efficient.

1224
01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:57.880
<v Speaker 1>One for five in the fourth quarter. I believe he

1225
01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:00.520
<v Speaker 1>got locked up by Kevin Love. He had behind the

1226
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:02.640
<v Speaker 1>back pass that goes out of bounds looking for Klay

1227
01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Thompson the near side corner. Like Curry has a lot

1228
01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:09.039
<v Speaker 1>of worse at big moments, he does exactly twenty twenty

1229
01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:10.760
<v Speaker 1>two helps him out. And I do think he's a

1230
01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:14.760
<v Speaker 1>top five player ever. But we're talking playoff per former ever, right.

1231
01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:17.920
<v Speaker 2>And and Adam, I think that you know, when we

1232
01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:21.039
<v Speaker 2>talk about Kawhi, it's always about the health. But when

1233
01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:23.680
<v Speaker 2>he is healthy in the playoffs, there's never been like

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01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:25.319
<v Speaker 2>a game. I mean, I'm sure there is. I'm not

1235
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:27.640
<v Speaker 2>going to go through all of Kawhi Leonard's playoff games,

1236
01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:30.680
<v Speaker 2>but you know, it's never a question of if he

1237
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:32.720
<v Speaker 2>can do it, it's always is he going to be

1238
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:36.159
<v Speaker 2>available with Kawhi Leonard, right, so every game, I mean,

1239
01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:38.479
<v Speaker 2>look at what he did. People keep forgetting about this.

1240
01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:41.079
<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty one Round one, there would have been

1241
01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:43.520
<v Speaker 2>no Western Conference Finals run if it wasn't for Kawhi

1242
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Leonard saving them in game seven. In Game six, Game six,

1243
01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:50.720
<v Speaker 2>he scored forty five points, right, So, like, this is

1244
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:54.119
<v Speaker 2>a guy that when the when your back is against

1245
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:57.159
<v Speaker 2>the wall in Game six, they're down in the fourth quarter.

1246
01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:00.600
<v Speaker 2>This is maybe could have been the end of the

1247
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:02.039
<v Speaker 2>two one three era because there are a lot of

1248
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:05.039
<v Speaker 2>questions going into that season, you know, after they blewed

1249
01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:07.720
<v Speaker 2>in the bubble and he goes for forty five in

1250
01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.960
<v Speaker 2>a hostile environment where there was a full crowd in

1251
01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Dallas and puts them to bed, and then in game

1252
01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:15.399
<v Speaker 2>seven back at home, he puts them to bed again.

1253
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:18.760
<v Speaker 2>So you know, and I think people forget the Utah

1254
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:21.359
<v Speaker 2>series before he got hurt too, because people just think that,

1255
01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:23.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was just the first round for Kawhi

1256
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:26.039
<v Speaker 2>and that was it. In those first four games, what

1257
01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:28.000
<v Speaker 2>he was doing, I mean him and Paul George were

1258
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.119
<v Speaker 2>going like thirty plus a night each.

1259
01:15:30.199 --> 01:15:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the last two games together in that series, Game

1260
01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:36.960
<v Speaker 1>three and four for the first time as a tandem.

1261
01:15:37.399 --> 01:15:39.720
<v Speaker 1>They both went for thirty and back to back games

1262
01:15:40.039 --> 01:15:42.479
<v Speaker 1>and then Kawhi there's his ACL. But he just had

1263
01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the dunk on Derek Favors, maybe the best dunk of

1264
01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:47.720
<v Speaker 1>his career in that game four before he tars the ACL.

1265
01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:52.039
<v Speaker 2>So so the question with Kawhi, like there's a lot

1266
01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of questions with all the guys that we listed, like, oh,

1267
01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:57.720
<v Speaker 2>can Katie do it? Can he get over that hump?

1268
01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Can you know, Lebron get over that hump? Or earlier

1269
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:02.840
<v Speaker 2>in his career. With Kawhi, it's never been could he

1270
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:05.039
<v Speaker 2>do it? Honestly, there are doubts about him. In twenty

1271
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:07.600
<v Speaker 2>fourteen when he won the championship with the Spurs, nobody

1272
01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:10.359
<v Speaker 2>thought Kawhi would win Finals MVP in that series, and

1273
01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:12.520
<v Speaker 2>he did it because he was available and he was

1274
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:16.560
<v Speaker 2>unbelievable on the defensive end and guarded Lebron but also

1275
01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:19.520
<v Speaker 2>offensively too. That was kind of the ascension of Kawhi Leonards. So,

1276
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:22.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think that we kind of misconstrue this

1277
01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:25.279
<v Speaker 2>when we think about Kawhi Leonard, like, oh, can he

1278
01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:28.399
<v Speaker 2>do it? He has done it in every facet of

1279
01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:31.279
<v Speaker 2>the game in the playoffs, it's just a question of

1280
01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:34.319
<v Speaker 2>is he going to be there. So, you know, I

1281
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:37.279
<v Speaker 2>think people get kind of convoluted with a lot of

1282
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:40.359
<v Speaker 2>these things. When they think about him, it's like, oh, well,

1283
01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:42.319
<v Speaker 2>we didn't even know that he was playing in Round

1284
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:43.359
<v Speaker 2>two of twenty twenty one.

1285
01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:44.439
<v Speaker 1>He did play in that.

1286
01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Series, guys. He was a big part of that Western

1287
01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:48.479
<v Speaker 2>Conference Finals run. He was a I mean, look at

1288
01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:50.880
<v Speaker 2>him in Game one and two in twenty twenty three,

1289
01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:54.560
<v Speaker 2>right before he don't I guess he heard his meniscus.

1290
01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:56.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was a tear whatever. He

1291
01:16:56.600 --> 01:16:59.880
<v Speaker 2>was sensational and like you mentioned, Adam outplayed the guy

1292
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:02.560
<v Speaker 2>you guys just listed in this list in Kevin Durant.

1293
01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:05.720
<v Speaker 2>So I think everyone remembers that rip that he had

1294
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and the finish on the fast break in that series. So,

1295
01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:12.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think that that's what the team should

1296
01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:14.439
<v Speaker 2>be focused on. That's what fans should be focused on.

1297
01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:17.640
<v Speaker 2>If you see him load managing this year, don't say

1298
01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 2>we didn't warn you. Don't say that you didn't expect it,

1299
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:23.600
<v Speaker 2>because in twenty twenty one he was load managed. And look,

1300
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I know he got hurt in round two, but he

1301
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.279
<v Speaker 2>got to round two. That was more than he did

1302
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:30.279
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty three. That's more than he did in

1303
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:34.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four. So don't there will be load managing.

1304
01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and don't say I didn't warn you when it

1305
01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:38.479
<v Speaker 1>comes to the swelling in his right knee and whether

1306
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:42.399
<v Speaker 1>or not that could be something that you know, unfortunately

1307
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:47.079
<v Speaker 1>arises during the regular season. Again, I don't know, No

1308
01:17:47.079 --> 01:17:50.399
<v Speaker 1>one does. Kawhi doesn't know how his body's going to respond.

1309
01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:54.880
<v Speaker 1>It is amazing to me how much speculation and reckless,

1310
01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:59.680
<v Speaker 1>rampant speculation there can be regarding Kawhi, the trading staff,

1311
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that could organization. There's people on here saying, oh, they

1312
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:07.720
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what's going on with Kawhi Leonard, and it's like, dude,

1313
01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:12.239
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know. He doesn't know how he's going to respond,

1314
01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:15.359
<v Speaker 1>how his body's going to respond. After some of these games,

1315
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:19.680
<v Speaker 1>after he played against Dallas, nobody had any idea. So

1316
01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that's why when you criticize the organization for being vague

1317
01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:27.760
<v Speaker 1>with reporting it, part of it is built in. Nobody

1318
01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:31.399
<v Speaker 1>can know because it's just it's it comes down to

1319
01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:35.039
<v Speaker 1>how his body responds. Often that is the case. My guy,

1320
01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Melvin Powell Junior, by the way, is on something else.

1321
01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I know it's Friday night, but he said Kawhi and

1322
01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Harden are going to be on their last dance. Michael

1323
01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Jordan's type of time this season, it's winning time. This

1324
01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:51.159
<v Speaker 1>season is the end of both their primes. Seriously, though,

1325
01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Melvin Powell Junior said the same thing last

1326
01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:56.760
<v Speaker 1>season as many people did. I talked about that last season.

1327
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.279
<v Speaker 1>It felt like the last dance for the two and

1328
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:03.039
<v Speaker 1>three era. Before the season started, we said that and

1329
01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>it still ended up being the same way. He's also

1330
01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:07.920
<v Speaker 1>saying they're going to be a better defensive team than

1331
01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the Timberwolves of healthy. It's like the Timberwolves were the

1332
01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:13.960
<v Speaker 1>number one defense last season and it wasn't close. They're

1333
01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:16.159
<v Speaker 1>not going to be better than them. I hope they

1334
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:18.239
<v Speaker 1>can be. What they need to be is a top

1335
01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:21.640
<v Speaker 1>eight defensive team. To me, Grant, that's it. Top eight.

1336
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:24.560
<v Speaker 1>If you're already saying Kalli is not playing back to backs,

1337
01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:27.119
<v Speaker 1>that means sixteen games are cut off immediately for him.

1338
01:19:27.520 --> 01:19:31.239
<v Speaker 1>So missing one of your best defensive players heading into

1339
01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:34.359
<v Speaker 1>the season for at least sixteen games, it's going to

1340
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:37.279
<v Speaker 1>be hard to be a top five defense. Let alone

1341
01:19:37.319 --> 01:19:40.079
<v Speaker 1>the number one overall defense. Your thoughts on that.

1342
01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Listen the Clippers, all of the things that they've done

1343
01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:46.720
<v Speaker 2>at them, and people have to realize this have been

1344
01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:51.479
<v Speaker 2>towards defense. They hired JVG. He's a very good defensive

1345
01:19:51.560 --> 01:19:54.199
<v Speaker 2>minded coach. I mean back when he coached in the

1346
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:57.560
<v Speaker 2>early two thousands, they brought in guys like Niko Batoum,

1347
01:19:57.960 --> 01:20:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Chris Dunn, they brought in Derek Jones. Those are all

1348
01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:05.399
<v Speaker 2>defensive minded guys. That doesn't mean that they're automatically going

1349
01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:08.399
<v Speaker 2>to be a top five defensive team. My thing with them, Adam,

1350
01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:11.399
<v Speaker 2>if they could be a top ten defensive team and

1351
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:14.039
<v Speaker 2>just middle of the pack on the offensive end, because

1352
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:16.159
<v Speaker 2>I think that their offense is going to take a

1353
01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:18.319
<v Speaker 2>hit with the loss of Paul George. There's a lot

1354
01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:21.119
<v Speaker 2>of people probably in these comments that are thinking something else.

1355
01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:24.720
<v Speaker 2>But if you can be top ten defensively, which is

1356
01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:27.359
<v Speaker 2>something And I don't have the exact defensive ratings for

1357
01:20:27.399 --> 01:20:30.159
<v Speaker 2>the entire two to three era, but it was never

1358
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:34.319
<v Speaker 2>an elite defense for whatever reason. I mean, they always

1359
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:37.399
<v Speaker 2>had the personnel I felt like, but it was never

1360
01:20:37.479 --> 01:20:39.960
<v Speaker 2>a top five defensive team. Now you could say that

1361
01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:42.359
<v Speaker 2>in that twenty six and five run that they had

1362
01:20:42.359 --> 01:20:45.159
<v Speaker 2>this past year. That's when they were a number one,

1363
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:48.960
<v Speaker 2>number two defense, Like, they were insane defensively, but obviously

1364
01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:51.039
<v Speaker 2>that didn't last, and towards the last part of the

1365
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:54.239
<v Speaker 2>season they kind of fell back towards the sixteen through

1366
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:57.760
<v Speaker 2>eighteen range. They really took a dive defensively, and that's

1367
01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:00.960
<v Speaker 2>probably why they honed in and focus don getting defensive

1368
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.399
<v Speaker 2>minded players. But this I think that if they are

1369
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:07.520
<v Speaker 2>a top eight defensive team like you mentioned, and I

1370
01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:09.880
<v Speaker 2>really believe they can with the personnel that they brought in,

1371
01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:12.760
<v Speaker 2>if they are a top eight defensive rated team and

1372
01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:16.199
<v Speaker 2>they're just fifteenth on offense, hopefully listen, I know that

1373
01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:18.960
<v Speaker 2>we all think that they should be a top ten

1374
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:22.079
<v Speaker 2>offensive team, but if they are even twelfth through fifteenth

1375
01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:25.039
<v Speaker 2>with that top ten defensive rating, I think that's a

1376
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:28.159
<v Speaker 2>recipe for a five to eight seed. Now we're gonna

1377
01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:29.880
<v Speaker 2>have to see how the West plays out, because there's

1378
01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:31.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of good teams in the West. There are

1379
01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:33.600
<v Speaker 2>teams that are gonna get gonna get better, Like I

1380
01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:35.920
<v Speaker 2>think Memphis is gonna be better, So you're gonna be

1381
01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:39.119
<v Speaker 2>fighting against more teams, I feel like. But we say

1382
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:41.079
<v Speaker 2>this every year. We say it every year, Oh the

1383
01:21:41.079 --> 01:21:43.000
<v Speaker 2>West got so much better. Oh the West is so

1384
01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:45.880
<v Speaker 2>much better this year. But in twenty twenty three, like

1385
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:48.159
<v Speaker 2>it was basically just the Nuggets and then everyone else

1386
01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:50.920
<v Speaker 2>everyone had a down year. So I think I don't

1387
01:21:50.960 --> 01:21:53.079
<v Speaker 2>think we can make these points right now. We kind

1388
01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:55.199
<v Speaker 2>of just have to wait it out and see how

1389
01:21:55.239 --> 01:21:58.079
<v Speaker 2>the season starts. I know we're getting way ahead of ourselves,

1390
01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:01.479
<v Speaker 2>but if they are top ten defensively, if they are

1391
01:22:01.560 --> 01:22:04.279
<v Speaker 2>middle of the pack or maybe a little bit above

1392
01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:08.000
<v Speaker 2>middle of the pack offensively, that is the recipe for

1393
01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:10.199
<v Speaker 2>successes here. I'm not saying they're going to be a

1394
01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:11.920
<v Speaker 2>top four seed. I'm not saying they're going to be

1395
01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:14.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the contenders in the West. But I think

1396
01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:19.399
<v Speaker 2>that those two ratings put together can bode well for

1397
01:22:19.439 --> 01:22:21.680
<v Speaker 2>them and that could be a great season for the Clippers.

1398
01:22:22.039 --> 01:22:24.960
<v Speaker 1>No, I completely agree with you been saying. Be a

1399
01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:29.560
<v Speaker 1>top eight defense in a top thirteen offense, and you're good.

1400
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Your net rating will be good enough to be in

1401
01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:36.359
<v Speaker 1>contention for being somewhere between six and eight in the West,

1402
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:40.159
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to be so close because if you

1403
01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>look at records, it's interesting the Sacramento Kings lost two

1404
01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:47.479
<v Speaker 1>more games than they did the year before this past

1405
01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:50.439
<v Speaker 1>season twenty three to twenty four season, and they went

1406
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:53.520
<v Speaker 1>from being the three seed to the ninth seed by

1407
01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:56.840
<v Speaker 1>losing two more games. It's going to be crazy and

1408
01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:58.800
<v Speaker 1>teams are going to be climbing all over each other

1409
01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:03.720
<v Speaker 1>for positioning. Sinner Jr. Says, think about it. Lawrence Frank

1410
01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:06.119
<v Speaker 1>was saying how Kawhi was ready and they wanted him

1411
01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:09.199
<v Speaker 1>to play. They want teams to want to trade him.

1412
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you will be traded before the All Star freak. Guys,

1413
01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:15.880
<v Speaker 1>there's no conspiracy here of Lawrence Frank saying this to

1414
01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:19.479
<v Speaker 1>pump up his trade value. Good lord, do a little

1415
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:22.520
<v Speaker 1>bit of critical thinking here. I think Lawrence Frank was,

1416
01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>as he said, very disappointed by the fact they sent

1417
01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:28.640
<v Speaker 1>him home because Kawhi wanted to play for Team USA

1418
01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and wanted to win a gold medal and he's their

1419
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:33.319
<v Speaker 1>franchise player. So you back those guys up, and they

1420
01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:36.159
<v Speaker 1>have a great relationship with Kawhi Leonard and I've come

1421
01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:39.239
<v Speaker 1>to the conclusion and this could change, but currently where

1422
01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm at with Kawhi Leonard and having a sell off

1423
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>or moving on at some point from him. Also in

1424
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>this era, he represents and symbolizes them becoming a destination

1425
01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:55.760
<v Speaker 1>franchise for the first time in this organization's history. Grant,

1426
01:23:56.079 --> 01:23:58.119
<v Speaker 1>I think it would be very difficult to take a

1427
01:23:58.119 --> 01:24:04.720
<v Speaker 1>lot or a serious godfatherlike offer from somebody, which is

1428
01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:08.560
<v Speaker 1>not going to happen right now because of his injury history.

1429
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:12.399
<v Speaker 1>So the chance of him being traded is so slim

1430
01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>because one the Clippers, I don't think want to trade him.

1431
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:19.199
<v Speaker 1>They want to see this thing through with Kawhi Leonard

1432
01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and make sure he's treated as the superstar he is

1433
01:24:23.840 --> 01:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>for picking the Clippers and coming here, because that's so meaningful.

1434
01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>It hasn't happened since Bill Walton, and even that was

1435
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:32.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of a trade back in the day, and that

1436
01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>was with San Diego. Like this is more than just

1437
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:38.640
<v Speaker 1>what he means on the court. It's transformative to the

1438
01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>franchise to know that you finally have become a destination

1439
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>where free agents will come your way, even free agents

1440
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:50.119
<v Speaker 1>that just want a finals MVP will choose you out

1441
01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:53.119
<v Speaker 1>of all teams and choose you over the team that

1442
01:24:53.239 --> 01:24:56.159
<v Speaker 1>was across the hole in their former arena. By the way,

1443
01:24:56.239 --> 01:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what your feelings are on that.

1444
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:03.600
<v Speaker 2>People always say, Adam that you know, why did they

1445
01:25:03.640 --> 01:25:05.399
<v Speaker 2>sign him to extend? You know, if they signed him

1446
01:25:05.399 --> 01:25:07.680
<v Speaker 2>to this extension, they're just gonna Blake Griffin him. That's

1447
01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>what people are saying. They say, oh, well, look at

1448
01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:12.359
<v Speaker 2>what we did with Blake Griffin. Those are two completely

1449
01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:16.119
<v Speaker 2>different scenarios and two completely different players. I love Blake Griffin.

1450
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I think he's one of the greatest Clippers of all time.

1451
01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that he should have his jersey retired here

1452
01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:23.880
<v Speaker 2>soon at the end of a dome. They signed Blake

1453
01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Griffin early in the you know, they signed the extension

1454
01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:28.000
<v Speaker 2>of the offseason. They traded him early in the season.

1455
01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:30.920
<v Speaker 2>The Clippers aren't going to do that. No team is

1456
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:34.039
<v Speaker 2>going to take his contract either, because we have people

1457
01:25:34.079 --> 01:25:37.720
<v Speaker 2>forget we have this new CBA where teams really can't

1458
01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:41.000
<v Speaker 2>take back that much salary unless you match it going back. So,

1459
01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:44.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think there's this notion that they can

1460
01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:46.920
<v Speaker 2>just trade him away and get everything back, and you know,

1461
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:49.520
<v Speaker 2>you can get a twenty nineteen or twenty twenty Paul

1462
01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>George like offer. That's not coming for a thirty four,

1463
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:56.279
<v Speaker 2>thirty three year old Kawhi Leonard that's just not so,

1464
01:25:57.039 --> 01:25:59.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, they they made the decision to extend him

1465
01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:03.239
<v Speaker 2>for a reason. He like we just mentioned, he is

1466
01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:07.680
<v Speaker 2>a known playoff performer. He puts people in the seats,

1467
01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:09.439
<v Speaker 2>and I know that that's not really an issue for

1468
01:26:09.479 --> 01:26:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Clippernation because Clipper Nation has sold out a lot of

1469
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:17.840
<v Speaker 2>games over the past decade plus. But he is one

1470
01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:21.560
<v Speaker 2>of the key cogs of why the Clippers are one

1471
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:23.560
<v Speaker 2>of these franchises that people want to come to. Now

1472
01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:26.159
<v Speaker 2>he is one of the reasons why. And it's Paul

1473
01:26:26.199 --> 01:26:28.840
<v Speaker 2>George as well that that tandem right there. But it's

1474
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:31.359
<v Speaker 2>a reason why they could get players like James Harden.

1475
01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:34.079
<v Speaker 2>It's the reason why James Harden wanted to resign. It's

1476
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:36.319
<v Speaker 2>one of the big reasons why Russell Westbrook chose to

1477
01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:39.680
<v Speaker 2>come here, is because there's that welcoming kind of attitude.

1478
01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:42.399
<v Speaker 2>But it's also like, hey, if Kawhi and Paul George

1479
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:44.760
<v Speaker 2>want to stay here and they want to sign multiple

1480
01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:48.920
<v Speaker 2>contracts here, then I do too. So you know, it

1481
01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:52.720
<v Speaker 2>just goes to show like this this organization, this front office,

1482
01:26:53.920 --> 01:26:57.640
<v Speaker 2>especially with the looming Lakers kind of presence. Now it's

1483
01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:01.840
<v Speaker 2>down the freeway. They have to keep a competitive team

1484
01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:04.560
<v Speaker 2>around and Steve Balmer on multiple occasions as said, I

1485
01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>am not into the rebuilding business. I am not into that.

1486
01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I will retool, which is I feel like what they

1487
01:27:10.279 --> 01:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>did this year, but I will never rebuild. And trading

1488
01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:17.359
<v Speaker 2>away Kawhi would signal a rebuild. They're not doing that,

1489
01:27:17.720 --> 01:27:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and he is still Adam, We've talked this whole time

1490
01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:24.199
<v Speaker 2>about how good Kawhi is in the playoffs. I know

1491
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:27.880
<v Speaker 2>that he's been injured, but the upside of him, if

1492
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>he is healthy, that is what they're leaning on, and

1493
01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:34.239
<v Speaker 2>that's what they should lean on because Paul George and

1494
01:27:34.319 --> 01:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people have been, oh my goodness, Adam

1495
01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:39.159
<v Speaker 2>on my social media about me talking about Paul George.

1496
01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:41.640
<v Speaker 2>They have been on me about saying that he didn't

1497
01:27:41.640 --> 01:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>deserve that Max contract. The thing that we know about

1498
01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Kawhi that we didn't know about Paul George is that

1499
01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:51.039
<v Speaker 2>in the postseason, when the calendar turns to April and

1500
01:27:51.159 --> 01:27:54.920
<v Speaker 2>May and June, we know that Kawhi Leonard can get

1501
01:27:54.920 --> 01:27:57.840
<v Speaker 2>it done. We know that he can beat the teams

1502
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:00.760
<v Speaker 2>in the West that will face that they will face.

1503
01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:04.199
<v Speaker 2>We didn't know that about Paul George. And in twenty

1504
01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:06.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty one, he had a great run, but after that

1505
01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:09.119
<v Speaker 2>he was injured. In twenty two, got the COVID in

1506
01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:12.479
<v Speaker 2>the play in in twenty twenty three, he was hurt,

1507
01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>didn't even get to see him, and this passed off season.

1508
01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:18.079
<v Speaker 2>This past postseason, he was nineteen points per game on

1509
01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>forty one percent shooting. So when you have a guy

1510
01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>like Kawhi Leonard, sure the injuries are there, but when

1511
01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:26.159
<v Speaker 2>he is healthy, you know what you're gonna get, and

1512
01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:27.760
<v Speaker 2>that's what the front office is banking on. They're not

1513
01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:31.279
<v Speaker 2>going to trade him. I mean, it's just kind of

1514
01:28:31.279 --> 01:28:34.039
<v Speaker 2>an idiotic statement by a lot of people in my opinion,

1515
01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>because the front office knows that the upside is there,

1516
01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:41.279
<v Speaker 2>and with Paul George they did not. And if you

1517
01:28:41.399 --> 01:28:44.399
<v Speaker 2>want to compete in Los Angeles, if you want to

1518
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:47.199
<v Speaker 2>be a championship team in Los Angeles and in the NBA,

1519
01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to keep Kawhi Leonard around. Guys, You're

1520
01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:53.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to keep guys like James Harden around. So,

1521
01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, people kind of get a little bit

1522
01:28:57.680 --> 01:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>too trigger happy. I feel like Adam when we're talking

1523
01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:03.760
<v Speaker 2>about these things, because they feel like, hey, the team's

1524
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:05.880
<v Speaker 2>just gonna accept any deal. You know, Hey, give me

1525
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:08.239
<v Speaker 2>all your first round picks and some good players in return.

1526
01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:10.439
<v Speaker 2>It's not how it works in the new CBA. That's

1527
01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:11.239
<v Speaker 2>just not how it works.

1528
01:29:11.479 --> 01:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you're saying we need to trade Kawhi because

1529
01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>he's too injury prone, do you think other franchises don't

1530
01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:22.119
<v Speaker 1>realize that and they don't know that he's injury prone.

1531
01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>It takes two to tangle a little bit. And I'll

1532
01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>go back to what Lawrence Frank said, because I think

1533
01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>there's great hope in this and you put that beautifully

1534
01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:33.359
<v Speaker 1>grant as we close things out here. But anybody can

1535
01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>get injured, like we've seen injuries defined playoff runs over

1536
01:29:37.800 --> 01:29:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the last five years greatly. Unfortunately, it's not just Kawhi.

1537
01:29:43.279 --> 01:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Look over the past couple of years, Giannis has been

1538
01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>injury prone, Asn't layed, Joe El Embiid has been injury prone.

1539
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>It is survival of the fittest or the healthiest, and

1540
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:57.399
<v Speaker 1>it's a war of attrition. But there are very few

1541
01:29:57.439 --> 01:30:00.279
<v Speaker 1>players well, anybody can get injured. There are very few

1542
01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>players that win healthy are a top five player in

1543
01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:08.159
<v Speaker 1>the league like Kawhi. Leonard is in a stone cold

1544
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>killer in the playoffs the way he is, and I

1545
01:30:11.640 --> 01:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>think most people, maybe outside of Jokic, would take Kawhi

1546
01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>as I don't know, the first or second best playoff

1547
01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:22.199
<v Speaker 1>performer if healthy in a seven game series today, just

1548
01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:25.199
<v Speaker 1>because of his reputation and what we've seen over the years.

1549
01:30:25.960 --> 01:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>So I hope he's going to be able to be healthy. Guys,

1550
01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I hope the swelling isn't a recurring issue, a reoccurring issue.

1551
01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I do have my concerns over that. I'm not putting

1552
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>anything into what occurred later today with that report that

1553
01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:50.199
<v Speaker 1>had Kawhi Leonard trending. Now, if things change, if somebody

1554
01:30:50.279 --> 01:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>verifies it, if somebody reputable does, like Grant, like Lot Murray,

1555
01:30:56.119 --> 01:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>like Tomarazarali who was on here earlier loved to man,

1556
01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>that will change how I feel about the situation. Until then, though,

1557
01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:11.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm not any more concerned about Kawhi than I was yesterday.

1558
01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>That's my position. We're all hoping for better health and

1559
01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>better luck for this Clippers team because it's just been

1560
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:23.359
<v Speaker 1>unbelievably bad luck. Because Brian Seeman would say, you know,

1561
01:31:23.439 --> 01:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>if they just had bad luck and not miserable luck,

1562
01:31:26.720 --> 01:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>not terrible unspeakable luck. This team would probably have won

1563
01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:35.039
<v Speaker 1>a championship by now, but it has been to the

1564
01:31:35.119 --> 01:31:39.359
<v Speaker 1>extreme when it came to the bad luck department in

1565
01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the two and three era. Sadly, I want everybody to

1566
01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>be hopeful coming into this season, but also realistic when

1567
01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the expectations for this team right now,

1568
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the way the roster's constructed, and KAUWHI just let me

1569
01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>know what he can play seven to ten games in

1570
01:31:57.840 --> 01:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>a row, then I'll start saying, oh, okay, here we go.

1571
01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Championships back on the menu, boys, because even without Paul

1572
01:32:07.479 --> 01:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>George Grant, if you can get into a seven game series,

1573
01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what seed they are, and Kawhi is healthy.

1574
01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants to see that Clippers team with a healthy

1575
01:32:18.680 --> 01:32:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Kawhi and James Harden because someone made a good point

1576
01:32:22.119 --> 01:32:26.119
<v Speaker 1>yesterday on the pot with Justin Rousseau. You know the

1577
01:32:26.239 --> 01:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Mavericks. They were constructed in a very similar fashion

1578
01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:33.319
<v Speaker 1>to the way this Clippers team is now. Two ISO

1579
01:32:33.439 --> 01:32:37.439
<v Speaker 1>heavy players as your stars, with a lot of wings

1580
01:32:37.439 --> 01:32:41.479
<v Speaker 1>and defenders around them, and they got to the NBA Finals,

1581
01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>losing in five to the Boston Celtics. But they made

1582
01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:48.279
<v Speaker 1>that run. The Clippers aren't that far off from how

1583
01:32:48.399 --> 01:32:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Dallas was built. Really, that's the truth. And I think

1584
01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:54.159
<v Speaker 1>they would have beat Dallas obviously in the first round

1585
01:32:54.159 --> 01:32:56.479
<v Speaker 1>if they had a healthy Kawhi Leonard. Plus they brought

1586
01:32:56.520 --> 01:33:00.319
<v Speaker 1>in a Dallas defender in Derek Jones Junior. Well, the

1587
01:33:00.399 --> 01:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>parallels they're pretty uh, they're pretty accurate right now. I

1588
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:09.359
<v Speaker 1>would say that's not a bad comp I don't know,

1589
01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you think, you know, is it a long shot or

1590
01:33:12.880 --> 01:33:16.359
<v Speaker 1>overly optimistic that if they just have a healthy team,

1591
01:33:16.479 --> 01:33:19.319
<v Speaker 1>even with the way the roster is now, they could

1592
01:33:19.319 --> 01:33:21.359
<v Speaker 1>still make a run without Paul George in your.

1593
01:33:21.239 --> 01:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Mind, Adam, every year we go through the playoffs and

1594
01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:29.479
<v Speaker 2>we always think which teams are going to be there.

1595
01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:31.479
<v Speaker 2>You know, we always thought that it would be the

1596
01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Nets and the Lakers in twenty twenty one because they

1597
01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>got Russell Westbrook. We always thought that it would be,

1598
01:33:37.119 --> 01:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Celtics and the Nuggets because those are

1599
01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>the two best teams last year. And there's always a

1600
01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:46.960
<v Speaker 2>team that nobody sees coming that makes a run. The

1601
01:33:47.039 --> 01:33:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Heat played the Nuggets last not this past year, but

1602
01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:52.920
<v Speaker 2>last year. Nobody saw the Heat getting to the finals.

1603
01:33:53.640 --> 01:33:55.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't think a lot of people saw them the

1604
01:33:55.560 --> 01:33:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Dallas Mavericks getting to the finals either. And what seed

1605
01:33:58.359 --> 01:34:01.479
<v Speaker 2>were they, Adham? They were the five I've seed. So

1606
01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>there are always teams and I've made this point a lot.

1607
01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>There are always teams in the past three four years

1608
01:34:08.439 --> 01:34:11.119
<v Speaker 2>that made a run to the finals in twenty twenty one.

1609
01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Did we ever think that it would be Bucks Suns?

1610
01:34:14.359 --> 01:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>And maybe some people did, but we never thought that

1611
01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:19.880
<v Speaker 2>we would see Bucks Hawks in the Eastern Conference Finals,

1612
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:22.760
<v Speaker 2>but it just ended up playing out that way. So

1613
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I think, Adam that if everything lines up, and like

1614
01:34:26.279 --> 01:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned, if they get into the playoffs with the

1615
01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:32.159
<v Speaker 2>defensive pieces that they've added, with a good role players

1616
01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:34.720
<v Speaker 2>that they have, Norm Powell being one of the guys

1617
01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:37.039
<v Speaker 2>that is kind of underrated in my opinion and should

1618
01:34:37.039 --> 01:34:39.760
<v Speaker 2>have been in heavier consideration for six Man of the

1619
01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Year last year. All of that combined with James Harden

1620
01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and Kawhi Leonard, who in my opinion are still superstars.

1621
01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Some people don't like to consider James Harden a superstar anymore,

1622
01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:52.640
<v Speaker 2>he still can be and he still is in my opinion.

1623
01:34:53.279 --> 01:34:56.600
<v Speaker 2>You get that combination with the coaching of Tylo and

1624
01:34:56.720 --> 01:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>JVG and the fact that even at the trade dead

1625
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:02.239
<v Speaker 2>this year, Adam, maybe they make a move if they're

1626
01:35:02.239 --> 01:35:05.079
<v Speaker 2>in a spot to do so to improve the team.

1627
01:35:05.479 --> 01:35:09.239
<v Speaker 2>And that's obviously if everything goes according to plan. Yes

1628
01:35:09.319 --> 01:35:12.199
<v Speaker 2>they can make a run. Yes they can. They are

1629
01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:14.680
<v Speaker 2>like you mentioned, I never even made that connection. That's

1630
01:35:14.680 --> 01:35:17.319
<v Speaker 2>actually a great observation by you, because yes, they.

1631
01:35:17.239 --> 01:35:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Do us to have you player from a listener, my friend, honest.

1632
01:35:22.079 --> 01:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>And Adam, people were already comparing Luca to James Harden

1633
01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:29.560
<v Speaker 2>in the first place anyways, so it could happen. You

1634
01:35:29.640 --> 01:35:31.560
<v Speaker 2>just stole the guy that locked up Paul George in

1635
01:35:31.600 --> 01:35:35.159
<v Speaker 2>the first round as well, So it's not out of

1636
01:35:35.159 --> 01:35:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the question. We're just trying to be as realistic as

1637
01:35:37.840 --> 01:35:39.399
<v Speaker 2>possible everyone. That's all it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Grant Mona with a calm, en soothing outlook on this

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01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Clipper season and what could happen, bringing a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of hope and just to close things out and put

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<v Speaker 1>a button on this issue as people are jumping in here.

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<v Speaker 1>Late fk Retro said just joining so was the QUI STUFBS? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say it was BS. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know because I can't verify what I do know is

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01:36:06.319 --> 01:36:08.760
<v Speaker 1>he followed up with Sala Murray kind of saying it

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01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>was nothing. La Murray talked to some people and said

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<v Speaker 1>he's fine. So until that changes, I'm going with that

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01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>over a report from a social media site on China

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<v Speaker 1>that people think could be Kawhai's agent. That's where I

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<v Speaker 1>stand on the issue. If things change, believe me, we'll

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01:36:29.039 --> 01:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>have another live here for you on Clippers Talk if

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01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:35.359
<v Speaker 1>that is the case. But I love everybody for being here,

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01:36:36.319 --> 01:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>putting up with the technical issues, putting up with me.

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01:36:40.119 --> 01:36:42.159
<v Speaker 1>This has been a lot of fun. Grant, that ain't

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<v Speaker 1>your fault. Believe me, it's the stream. It ain't you,

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01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:48.119
<v Speaker 1>my friend, Grant Mona. Where can they find you and

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01:36:48.159 --> 01:36:50.119
<v Speaker 1>where can they look forward to seeing more of you

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01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>throughout this Clipper season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I'll be covering the Clippers for the Sporting

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01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Tribune this year. I'll be at media Day, I'll be

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01:36:57.199 --> 01:36:59.720
<v Speaker 2>at all the games this year. You can follow me

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01:36:59.760 --> 01:37:03.439
<v Speaker 2>at Gmona forty eight on X I'm very active on there,

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<v Speaker 2>commenting on a lot of the trolls on Adam's page

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01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:08.920
<v Speaker 2>as well. If you want to find me in my

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01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:13.520
<v Speaker 2>video content, it's at money Mo Media on YouTube and

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01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:16.880
<v Speaker 2>money Moo Media TV on TikTok and I post there

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<v Speaker 2>frequently as well. So Adam, we're getting close. Man, We're

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<v Speaker 2>very close to the season, so we appreciate all the

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<v Speaker 2>support as well. Guys, So thanks for having me on, Adam,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Grant Mona, my friends, I appreciate you. See

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<v Speaker 1>you at Media Day on the thirtieth, just a little

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<v Speaker 1>over a week away for Grant Mota. I'm Adam Oslim's.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been another edition of Clippers Talk Live. Everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>have a safe Friday night and try not to fall

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<v Speaker 1>for too much of the social media panic. Look to

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<v Speaker 1>your local beat writers and reporters and those who are

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<v Speaker 1>plugged in. We'll talk to you next time.
