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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm John Reid, I'm Bowwarm Oled, I'm Pat Cannagello.

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Speaker 2: And we are the thirty Podcast. We're ready to believe you.

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So anyway, the other day I was in Chicago. There

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happened to be a parade, as there is every day,

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and I jumped up on a float and started singing

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Donkashin and then out of the blue, doctor Richard Kiple

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runs by and tells me that he didn't kill his wife.

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Speaker 3: And I don't care.

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Speaker 2: And that's just what it's like living in Chicago. You

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got pizza, you got hot dogs, you have murderous doctors

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running through the streets. Ferraris driving backwards. It's just how

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we roll here.

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Speaker 4: Babies roll down steps and train stations.

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Speaker 2: That's the Chicago way. So thank you for listening to

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the Surely you Can't Be Serious Podcast. Take it away,

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Dan Jason.

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Speaker 4: Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around

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once in a while, you can miss it.

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Speaker 5: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley you Can't

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Be Serious Podcast, And we are here today with our guest.

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We have mister Dave Dolphin. Hi, Dave, how you doing.

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 6: It is good to be here first time caller, longtime listener.

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Speaker 5: And we also have with us from Virginia. Mister Chuck Bryan.

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How are you, Chuck?

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Speaker 1: I am doing well. I thought you guys would never

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have me on again. After Star Trek the Motion Picture,

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I was like, what did I do something wrong? What's

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going on here?

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Speaker 5: You started your own podcast? Man? We just a little

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bit busy on that note, Chuck, why don't you get

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why don't you tell us about the Cinematic Flashback?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, The Cinematic Flashback Podcast is a podcast that covers

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the greatest decade in movie history. I'm talking about the seventies.

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I'm talking about New Hollywood. We're going back to Robert Altman,

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Sam Peckham Pod, Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, all of the

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greats during that And we don't do anything outside of

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the seventies. And we have a really great time. We

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post every two weeks, So check us out.

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Speaker 5: Excellent. Dave, tell us about your YouTube channel, man.

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Speaker 6: Actually I do well. A lot of the things I

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, whether it's Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, whatever, you can find

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me at Dave Dolphin. Okay, we just kind of talked

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about people that are in the middle of life just

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trying to figure it out. Sometimes I've referred to it

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as documenting my midlife crisis, and so just you know,

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a little bit of nostologia remembering back what life was like,

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you know, as kids, which you know, I feel like

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I'm at home here, and then just you know, the

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weird like when we were sixteen eighteen thinking about our lives.

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We never thought that it would involve so much like

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changing air filters in our air conditioning systems and changing

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the batteries out, or what to do with chicken and

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ground beef every single night.

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Speaker 5: But here we are excellent. Where can they find you.

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Speaker 6: Dave Dolphin? Okay, in all all the places. If my

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space was a thing, you can find me there one

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of my top eight spaces.

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Speaker 5: Okay. Well, I feel like that we have hit your

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proverbial demographic right on the head for both of you.

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we're not here to talk about midlife crisis. We are

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here to talk about two movies. And I don't think

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I could put it any better than Jason put it

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last week when he teased this up which is we're

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going to talk about a really great movie and a

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movie that's on the mount rushmore of all eighties movies.

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Speaker 4: I guess you'll just have to decide which is which

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at the end of this.

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, you know what, I've been a member

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of the text thread that started up when we started

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talking about these movies together and the fact that we're

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going to get together and talk, and so instead of

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me going on my storytelling adventure like could normally do,

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I'm going to ask you guys questions. All right, So

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we're going to start with Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Jason

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went Ferris Bueller's Day Off come out.

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Speaker 4: Farris Bueller's Day Off came out June eleventh, nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 5: Okay, do you remember watching it for the first time?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yeah. I mean that to me was the Top

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caught my attention and my admiration after watching it.

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Speaker 5: This was it?

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Speaker 3: Dave?

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Speaker 5: What about you?

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Speaker 6: Well, the interesting thing for me is that I live

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in Oklahoma City. I've been in Oklahoma City for many,

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many decades, but I was actually born in a suburb

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of Chicago. So I was born in Elkrove Village, and

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Speaker 3: And so we had.

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Speaker 6: Moved to Oklahoma in November of nineteen eighty five. So

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not that it was like super traumatic, but I you know,

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school I've ever known, friends have ever known, and I'm

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there's this movie that comes out that I like the

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premise of, you know, this teenager just you know, getting

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to have this one last hurrah. But to find out

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that it was in Chicago, and even like when the

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movie opens and they do the WLS jingle.

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Speaker 5: Like shory dive.

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Speaker 4: Outside west Side Southside Chico.

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Speaker 6: Like I know the radio station WLS ninety four point seven,

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from home.

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Speaker 3: And so now I did.

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Speaker 6: The funny part is I did go see it in

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the theater with my parents, and there was a lot

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of jokes of like, you know, is this you know,

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should you actually see this movie with your parents, Like

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we want to tip our hat to letting our parents know,

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like the things that we might be Like if I

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got some ideas, I couldn't. I couldn't do this on

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my parents because he saw the movie right, it worked out.

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Speaker 5: Right, Chuck, how about you man?

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Speaker 1: Summer of nineteen eighty six June, I had just graduated

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from high school and had started working at a local

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general cinema theater. And the opening movies that weekend that

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I started working were it was before so Top Gun

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was opening up, and then we had earlier than that.

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because I recognized instantly that one of my very close

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friends was actually Ferris Bueller, so I was relating to

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it on a different way. But then in my professional

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only ushering but cleaning up all the pop horn afterwards,

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this movie was maddening because of the ending, because nobody

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left until Ferris told everyone to go home, even at

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the midnight movies. So I saw it quite a few

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they like it just it led you there. You just

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didn't like the movie, Like I guess you saw the credits,

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but there's still movie happening.

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Speaker 4: The Gummy Bear, the the Rooney eats it graffiti.

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Speaker 3: They're nice and soft. They've been in my pocket.

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Speaker 4: Going on.

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Speaker 3: Did you get that fight.

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Speaker 1: At the start of the summer people would get up

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immediately and start heading out the door, right because it's

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they'd turned and they stopped, and they would stand in

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the aisles or stand in at their seats, and then

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they heard Ferris. They turn around, up, there's more movie,

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and then he tells them to go home. And so

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where he's like, what are you still doing here?

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Speaker 4: Go it's over.

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Speaker 5: I was ten years old when I saw this movie.

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I saw it in the theater as well, and I

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think this was the first movie I ever watched all

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the way, all through the credits, through the end, and

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probably for those very reasons, that very reason that like,

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oh there's still movie going, I'm not gonna leave. It's like,

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you know, Cannonball Run. You know, like it's like the

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outtakes or whatever. You're going to stay and watch those.

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scene and when Farah shows back up. But we had

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gotten such a treat with the Rooney scene. We had

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to wait and see if there was more, right, like

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it's is it gonna be more? And then of course

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that intersplice with something else, and then it got cut,

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like a million other things in this movie. We'll get

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to that about just how long this movie was and

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all the footage that they had to deal with, But

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and then they're like, okay, we want to keep people

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for this last scene. Like they had the idea of

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faris saying go home, but we got to keep people here.

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the bus that we have on the on the cutting

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room floor, let's put that back in at the end,

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all the credits on top of it. And that was magic.

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like now seems so normal, like the breaking the fourth

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wall and talking to you to the camera. There's so

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many conventions in that that were like nobody did that.

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as ducket right, So he was playing with it in

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Pretty and Pink and then went full on with it

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in Feris Peeler's Day Off.

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Speaker 5: We haven't even said what the movie is that we're

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comparing Ferris Bueller's Day Off too, yet.

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Speaker 4: That might be part of the problem.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, so real quick, the movie that we're comparing

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Ferris Bueller's Day Off to is another phenomenal movie called

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Adventures in Babysitting. Do you remember the first time you

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watched that one?

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Speaker 4: I think I saw this on BHS, okay, but I

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don't think I saw it in the theater. It did

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not have as profound an impact on me as Farris

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in the eighties that you saw it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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what about you do?

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Speaker 6: I don't remember seeing it in the theater, And I'll

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see your VHS and I'll raise you a beta, Matt

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that I saw it on right and I remember watching

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it or it might have been on HBO or something

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like that, but I do I remember loving just that

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premise of things just working out as one of the

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things I loved about Paris is that it's just, you know,

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the things just worked out for him, and so using

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Speaker 1: Working in the movie theater, and I'm going to tell

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you what. The trailer for this film opens up with

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after Karate Kid too that she had dumped Danielson. But

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ready to go and see Adventures and by sitting and yeah,

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to make sure that the reels were put together in

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the right order. Okay, So they would come in you know,

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the cans, and then they would splice them together, put

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verifying it. But also it gives the employees a little

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movie ahead of time and then be able to interact

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get started on the actual breakdown of the movie. We

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tease this up, this matchup. I think in Ario Speedwagon.

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I said, hey, this is what we got coming. We

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got Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, We've got pretty in Pinak, some

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kind of wonderful. We got Ferrispeeler's day Off in Adventures

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of Babysity. Well, within twenty four hours, I got a

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text from Dave and a text from Chuck that both

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basically said, I'm your guy. I've got to be on this.

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Farris Beeler's Day Off is one of my favorite movies.

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Speaker 3: You've got it.

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Speaker 4: We got to make this happen.

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Speaker 6: You even said, yeah, sure, that sounds like a great idea.

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And I said, no, Jason, what date when are we

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doing this? Like I'm putting something on my like, don't

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just give me the yeah shirt?

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Speaker 3: No, we're doing.

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Speaker 4: This, that's right. And Dave has special privileges because when

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we were starting this podcast, de and I were still

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in the kind of the formation stages of this, and

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they've had a active podcast. He was the only podcaster

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I knew at the time, and I took you to

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lunch and I said, hey, I want to talk through

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this idea with you. So you're a part of our

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genesis story.

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Speaker 3: So I love and.

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Speaker 6: Every time I listen to an episode, I am honored

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to be on that, you know, wall of founding fathers

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of sorts, and as.

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Speaker 4: The founding father, you have yet to be on our

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podcast other than it and intro.

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Speaker 6: We've tried on a couple of other episodes, but this

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was the one because I was like, now, Baris Bueler,

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I watched it like once a year, like it's a

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great film. And then when you teed it up with

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Adventures and Babysitting, I'm like, why have we.

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Speaker 3: Not done it?

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Speaker 6: First off, I was shocked that you hadn't even done

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it yet. How have you gotten you know, you're like

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seven hundred years into this podcast. How have we not

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done this matchup?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, it took us a while to find the matchup.

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And before we get too far off this, I would

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like to say that not only was he influential in

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how we did the podcast, but he is the reason

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that we save final judgment for the end. That was

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Dave's idea. He was like, you need to have something

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to keep them hooked in. And I wasn't there for lunch.

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final judgment on which one's the best movie for the

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end so that people wait to find out. And I

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was like, that's brilliant. So credit Todave for that great idea. Yeah,

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thanks Dave, And we've been doing it now for seven

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Speaker 1: Well, Dave, you would be very happy to know that

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these guys paid it forward, because when I was starting

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my podcast, first of all, I pitched the idea to

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both Jason and d just to say, is this topic

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even interesting at all? And you know, I think d

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you were like I was saying everything and you just

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had a blank face. And what I've come to learn

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is that you're processing information all the time and you're

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just you're thinking through it. And then you just said,

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seventies movies are making a real big, comeback right now.

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the Devil, he says, very popular movie. A lot of

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seventies vibes think you should do it. And you know,

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with the advice in getting like what how do I

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start off? How do I get this thing going? And

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you guys were very instrumental in helping me get Cinematic

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Flashback podcast off the ground, so they paid it forward.

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Speaker 4: So everybody, real quick, hit pause on your podcast, go

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subscribe to Cinematic Flashback, and then come right back. Okay,

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good to have you back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, sorry that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thanks guys. I appreciate that the subscriptions just went up.

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I mean I can see them happening right now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, let's go, everybody get on board with Chuck

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at Cinematic Flashback. I've got one quick story before we

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dive into the movie. Okay, So movies, movies, movies. I'm

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not tipping my hand yet, Okay, but I will tell you.

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I will tell you that in nineteen ninety, several years

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after this movie came out, I talked to my buddy Bomber.

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Darryl in Adventures of Babysity. He was the goofball that

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was always hanging around that was causing enough trouble that

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he was so funny we could not bring him along.

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to go up to the book sign ourselves out right

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that we're going to our orthodonist appointment. We also were

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going to sign our girlfriends out. Okay. He was dating

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this girl named Catherine Ogel at the time, so that

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was his girlfriend who is now my wife, and I

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signed out my girlfriend, who I don't know where she

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is anymore. But we all signed ourselves out on the

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sign in spot. Okay, problem number one. Right, we go

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to lunch, and this is going to sound like I'm kidding.

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I'm not kidding. We go to Bennigan's at seventy first

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and Sheridan and Tulsa. Oh I loved that Bennigans. Do

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you know what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I had this buffalo shrimp there all the time.

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Speaker 4: So good, So we place our lunch order. We really

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haven't really missed school. Yet this is still during the

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lunch hour. We sign out, we go to lunch, we

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order my mom walks in. This is the true story.

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She's looking around. She doesn't see us, but my buddy

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hits the floor. He recognizes her because we go to

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church together. He yanks me down on the floor. We

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crawl out on our hands and knees walk the ticket.

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Speaker 5: You're the reason Bennigan's went bankrupt.

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Speaker 4: Yep. So we then go across town to Casperaneda. We're

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hiding in the cave for the rest of the lunch.

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signed out on the sign in mark. We're trying to

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plead our case. We're all four busted. We get detention.

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work out for me, but I did manage to get

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a wife out of the whole dell, So anyway, it

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was all right, So anyway, all right, So let's get

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Speaker 5: Okay, who wants to tell the origin story of Ferris

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Bueller's day off.

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Speaker 6: I just remember the first thing being that there was

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a writer's strike that was getting ready to happen, and

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they had like days, like almost a week. If I

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don't get a script in before this strike happens, I

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won't have anything to direct. And so and he was

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kind of like, you know, I think brand new with

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get this. But because he's John Hughes, I mean he's

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constantly writing. I think he was supposed to do like

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rewrites on Pretty in Pink, and he was procrastinating, didn't

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want to do it, didn't want to do it, and

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and said, you know, hey, I'm sitting with you until

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he finished this and fell asleep on the guy's couch

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and woke up and it's like, okay, do you have

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it finished?

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Speaker 3: He's like, no, but I've got this great story.

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Speaker 6: And he showed like forty pages of what would be

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Ferris Peeler.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of how this thing starts.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Howard Deutsch, right, Deutsch was the friend.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, guy he directed Pretty in Pink.

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in the movie Ama Daeis, where Salieria is just like

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just enraged by how good Mozart can just pull music

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out of the air. And you know, Hughes was writing

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what like ten pages an hour or something like that.

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amount the amount that he was channeling, whatever news he

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was channeling, he was able to do it very very quickly,

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and it was almost something to make Deutsch jealous.

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Speaker 4: He said, we would go into like a trance. Yeah,

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he's like a trance typing, typing, typing, you know, cigarettes burning,

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and Howard Deutsch is like, I'm gonna go take a

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nap on the couch while you work on this. The

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date that John Hughes started on this February twenty fifth,

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nineteen eighty five. Seven months later they're shooting. It goes

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from writing to Ned Tannin's desk, to approval to funding,

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to casting to hiring.

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Speaker 6: Like boom, they actually greenlit the thing on like the

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first pass, which is not typical normally, like they work

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it back and forth and chop it whatever. But like

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the moment they had like the very first bit of it,

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they're like, yep, shirt, let's do it right.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, at this point we had had sixteen

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Candles and we had had Breakfast Club, right.

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Speaker 4: And pretty well, I guess pretty peak was in the works,

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in the.

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Speaker 5: Works, right, but they they've got at least three scripts

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that they know this is this guy has the touch,

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He's got the Mitas touch right now.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't even count Vacation and mister Mom right, which

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we're both hits as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: So John Hughes bases Ferris Bueller on a couple of

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his school buddies. One of them was named Ed mcnully,

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which kind of he was just a popular guy. Kind

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of everything worked out for him. And then he had

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this other guy named Buehler who was kind of the

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Cameron character, and he just fired it out, started filming

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September of nineteen eighty five and was done filming by

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November of nineteen eighty five. Just rapid fire, and what

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I think is gives us one of the greatest eighties

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movies of all time.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So, as the script for Ferris Bueller was going

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from desk to desk, there was a place called New

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World Pictures that had a guy named David Simpkins, David

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Simpkins working there. His job was to review the scripts

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and tell the studio whether he thought it was a

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good idea bad idea, And he comes across the script

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for Ferris Bueller's Day officer reads that comes across the

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script for a movie called After Hours, which is a

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Martin Scorsese movie.

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Speaker 4: It is right, and Gryffin Dunn, Griffin dun.

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he reads both of these scripts relatively closely together, and

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he thinks, I want to write a script that is

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basically a marriage of these two ideas. And after Ours

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is him Done's character trying to get home misadventures as

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he tries to get home late at night. And then

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of course Peris Bueller is high school kids out during

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the day. And so what he writes is a movie

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called Adventures in Babysitting.

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Speaker 4: I'll make it very clear, you slip me the cash

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and I'll slip you the winner.

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Speaker 3: But I don't have any casts. But I don't have

476
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a winner.

477
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 5: Yes, he proposes that to New World. They say, now

478
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,400
we're good. But then what happens after that?

479
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Speaker 4: Paramount picks it up and they say, we like what

480
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,920
you're doing here. We want to hire this girl named

481
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,920
Molly Ringwold. Yeah, and if you can get her, we'll

482
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make this move.

483
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 5: So this guy wrote a script that was close enough

484
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,039
to John Hughes's work that they were like, this is

485
00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:49,359
something that we can latch onto John Hughes's coattails on

486
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,240
cast the girl that's been in two of his biggest

487
00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:55,240
hits so far and make it our own thing.

488
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

489
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Speaker 4: I think Jill McCormick last week on Pretty Pink said

490
00:22:59,559 --> 00:23:02,720
Adventure in Babysitting is the greatest John Hughes movie that

491
00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:03,599
John Hughes didn't.

492
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,599
Speaker 3: Right, that's a great way to put that.

493
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right.

494
00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:10,319
Speaker 4: Okay, So Paramount demanded Molly Ringwald they had the right

495
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,720
of first refusal. Molly Ringwold says, Nope, not interested. I've

496
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,000
done the babysitter thing. I've done the teen thing. I'm

497
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,720
trying to move on to bigger and better things. And

498
00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:21,920
so Paramount comes up with a great idea, Well, maybe

499
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:27,400
we can get Bette Midler or share, which is crazy,

500
00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:28,720
what are they what?

501
00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:32,279
Speaker 5: So so the idea I get this, Like, the idea

502
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,039
is that it's a babysitter, and babysitters don't have to

503
00:23:35,079 --> 00:23:38,039
be high school kids, right, they can be older people

504
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,480
they're I mean.

505
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 3: But this movie is at Missus Doubtfire. That's a different vibe.

506
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 4: Funny enough. Chris Clumbus directed This is Doubt Fire.

507
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,079
Speaker 5: No right, So I.

508
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: Think I think share and that would have been much

509
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,200
closer in age to Bradley Whitford. So when when Mike

510
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,640
shows up, he would be right in the right age,

511
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,880
in fact.

512
00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 4: Just a little bit forty five years old.

513
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 5: It looks maybe just he little must have always looked

514
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,599
that age. I looked him up. Bradley Whitford is actually

515
00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:10,640
I think he's only like three or four years older

516
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,960
than Elizabeth Shoe and she was twenty four, so he

517
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,279
would have been twenty eight. I mean, so he does

518
00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:18,440
look old for dating a high school kid, but she

519
00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:20,279
was much older than high school kid. She was a

520
00:24:20,319 --> 00:24:22,519
college kid. She was at Harvard at the time that

521
00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:26,359
this movie was made. And a couple of things about

522
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,480
that number one Bradley Whitford, they used his real car,

523
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,400
so cool. Number two so cool was his real license plate,

524
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,960
oh my gosh. And number three Apparently he wasn't an

525
00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:46,960
weirdo weirdo because Elizabeth Shoe said that like they dated

526
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:49,799
after the after the movie. Really, yes, yeah, She's like,

527
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,920
I can't remember if he asked me out or if

528
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,720
I asked him out. So anyway, there you go, Raley.

529
00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: No star stars dating each other in these movies is

530
00:24:58,519 --> 00:24:59,279
a common theme.

531
00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:00,559
Speaker 4: It really is real.

532
00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: It is.

533
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,039
Speaker 5: Yeah it did. I don't think they had a drunk

534
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,359
driving accident together. But no, oh sorry I went there

535
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,160
too soon.

536
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: Dang. So okay, just to continue on with that thought,

537
00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:15,000
so Paramount decides, Okay, we can't get Molly Ringwold and

538
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,519
maybe cher or Bette Midler is not the greatest idea,

539
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:21,759
so they punt Disney takes over. Adventures in Baby City

540
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,319
becomes the first Touchstone picture that is rated PG thirteen.

541
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,079
So the first Disney movie rated PG thirteen for those

542
00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:31,480
of you who have always wondered this question is Adventures

543
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,960
in Baby City, which is interesting because it's directed by

544
00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:41,319
the guy that wrote movies that led to the PG thirteen.

545
00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 6: Because Goonies was was the movie when they said, okay,

546
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,680
we got to do something because there is just not

547
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,079
enough room. There's too much room between PG and R.

548
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it. The Goonies didn't do it,

549
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:55,039
THENMINS would have done it as well.

550
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 5: No, it was Grimlins so Chris Columbus wrote Grimlins. That's it,

551
00:25:58,079 --> 00:26:00,839
you just say to but yeah, I mean, yeah, it

552
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,200
was Grimlins. It was something with a G right, right,

553
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:07,839
and as and if you will, if you notice the

554
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,920
little girl has a backpack that has Grimlins on it.

555
00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:11,759
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's a great callback.

556
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 5: Yes there are tons of them in this movie. You know.

557
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,799
We'll get into later on the ability to do those

558
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,640
little easter eggs, those little moments in the film, and

559
00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:24,279
why one of these movies is great, and why one

560
00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:26,160
of them is Mount Rushmore. But I don't want to

561
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,480
get us too far off the path, so tell us

562
00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:32,480
about the rest of the process. Chris Columbus obviously is

563
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,240
tapped to direct this. This is his directoral debut. We

564
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,559
talked back when we did Grimlins Versus Ghostbusters about how

565
00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:42,720
he became a writer, how Steven Spielberg picked up his

566
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:46,039
script because of his name right right. He was living

567
00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:49,079
in a place where rats were eating his fingertips as

568
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,880
he slept, and that's how he came up with the

569
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,440
idea for Grimlins. But he gets that. Spielberg actually considered

570
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,920
producing Adventures in Babysitting under the Ambulin banner, but because

571
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,279
he wanted to help Chris columb but Chris had already

572
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:02,720
been hired, so he didn't need to get in there

573
00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:06,599
and do that. So we have Chris's directorial debut. He

574
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:11,279
directs then a terrible movie called Heartbreak Hotel, and manages

575
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:15,720
to save his career after getting fired from Christmas Vacation,

576
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,039
which we talked about there by getting hired on to

577
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,000
another John Hughes movie called Home Along.

578
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've talked about all this stuff, right, So

579
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,680
Steven Spielberg saw the screenplay with Chris Columbus's name on

580
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,240
it and said, this guy's name really Chris columb Like

581
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,240
who names their kid Chris Columbus on purpose?

582
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:33,799
Speaker 1: All right?

583
00:27:34,599 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: And so sure enough that is his given name. And

584
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:41,519
then but he produced, you know, screenplays for Gremlins and Gooni's,

585
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:44,400
I mean, two great great movies from the eighties. And

586
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,200
of course he's talented, and at a time in his

587
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:51,039
life when he had to have a job, he was

588
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,920
hired by John Hughes. So there is some incestuous relationship here,

589
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,559
right to direct Christmas Vacation, and Chevy Chase is such

590
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,480
an insufferable turd that Chris Columbus, who had to have

591
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,720
the job said, I can't do this, I can't be

592
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:11,039
here and I can't work with Chevy Chase. John Hughes says,

593
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,720
that's okay. I got this other movie I think you'd

594
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,119
be great for. It's called Home Alone. And then we

595
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,039
all know what happened there.

596
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,759
Speaker 5: Now, I will say this for Chris Columbus, I mean,

597
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,359
obviously he has skills as a writer, and so those

598
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,640
came into play while he was making the movie. The

599
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:28,000
bar scene, which is potentially one of the most memorable

600
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:31,119
scenes in the movie, was a Chris Columbus idea. And

601
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,200
then nobody gets out of here without playing the Blues,

602
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,039
and nobody gets out of play. That was all Chris Columbus.

603
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you don't mind, we just like to let

604
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:38,200
ourselves off.

605
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 7: Nobody is out of just played for that sanging and blue.

606
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: What nobody leader his place without sang in the blue?

607
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 4: Brilliant?

608
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 5: All right. So this is the point in the show

609
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,400
where we talk about casting, which we began talking about

610
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,359
it a little bit already with adventures and babysitting, but

611
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:56,119
we'll come back to that. Let's talk about casting for

612
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:05,359
Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Now I know that this script

613
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:10,359
was written for Anthony Michael Hall right, and Anthony Michael

614
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,599
Hall said, no, I want to do this movie called

615
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:13,720
out of Bounds.

616
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: Dave, have you seen out of Bounce? I have not seen, Chuck,

617
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,200
have you seen out of Bounds?

618
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: I did not see out of Bounds.

619
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,039
Speaker 5: I saw the front, I saw the poster, I saw

620
00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:26,000
the VHS box, and it's got Anthony Michael Hall with

621
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:27,359
a gun pointed at it at me.

622
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,359
Speaker 4: So I had the pleasure of joining Jeff Johnson on

623
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,799
his nineteen eighty six podcasts where he covered like eighty

624
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,160
six movies from eighty six. One of them was out

625
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,759
of Bounds. So it was an interesting thought to have

626
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:44,559
Anthony Michael Hall in a like crime thriller. But that

627
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,720
movie sucks. It is set in the sunset strip, which

628
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:53,079
does make it kind of a fun readventure, but it

629
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,799
is not a good movie. He blew it when he

630
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,880
could have still continued on in the John Hughes you

631
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,839
know Climb.

632
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,279
Speaker 5: Now. Interestingly, he was also at this same time cast

633
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:07,440
in the role of Joker for Full Metal Jacket, just

634
00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:11,240
couldn't work it out financially and ultimately didn't get it

635
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:14,200
done and it went to Matthew Modine. Now that's interesting

636
00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:19,200
because that happened at the same year as Adventures and Babysitting, right,

637
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:23,480
and both of them have this memorable part with the

638
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:28,039
actor Danafrio if and looking at Vincent Danafrio in those

639
00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:32,039
two parts that literally they had to be filming right

640
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:36,319
around the same time. Substantially different look. I mean, even

641
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:38,119
if you take away the blonde hair. I mean he

642
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,240
was thin and muscled up and a little oily.

643
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: But I think the Nafrio must have shown up on

644
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,799
set being the most buff guy in the entire production,

645
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,359
and they basically told him, you need to put on

646
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,559
some weight. So so he yeah, I was gonna say

647
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:55,440
he hit the burger stand.

648
00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:58,319
Speaker 4: Seventy pounds is what he put on.

649
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,839
Speaker 3: For a while.

650
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:02,599
Speaker 4: It's to wait, okay, so let's talk about the cast

651
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,559
of Ferris Buel's daff Matthew Broderick as Ferris. I said

652
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:10,400
it before and I'll say it again. Life moves pretty fast.

653
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,119
You don't stop and look around once in a while,

654
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,440
you could miss it.

655
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 6: That's he was one of the first people that they

656
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:18,920
wanted and they're like, well, that's just out, so well,

657
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,240
let's let's try some others. And then that didn't pan out,

658
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,759
and eventually came to Mathwick.

659
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if I could see anyone else.

660
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:28,759
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously, you know this movie is iconic and

661
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,680
all that, but like, there's just something about watching him.

662
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,880
It's enjoyable, and there's different aspects of the character that

663
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,000
he just captures beautifully. And the nice part too, is

664
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,359
that he had already done some Broadway shows where he

665
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,640
had to talk to the audience, So even just the

666
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,440
idea of talking to the camera and breaking the fourth wall,

667
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:51,440
he already had experience doing that.

668
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 5: We've talked before he was His first movie was Max

669
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,319
Dugan Return, which is how I learned how to bat.

670
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,000
His second movie was War Games, which we talked in

671
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,559
detail with Chad Briggs about Chad, who actually does real

672
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:10,440
war games. He hit is up and said this movie

673
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,319
was an inspiration to me. We had no idea that

674
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:15,359
that meant that he actually was a key factor in

675
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,240
many war game scenarios. Hey, Chad. Then after that he

676
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:23,799
had done Biloxi blues A Paul Simon, Paul Simon, that's wrong,

677
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,200
Simon Simon, Neil Simon, thank you that he had done Simon.

678
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:36,480
Paul Simon did that all right, So I'm sorry. So

679
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,119
he had done Neil Simon's play Biloxi Blues, which he

680
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,519
would later do the movie in my hometown of Arkansas,

681
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,079
and he was just outside of Fort Smith that at

682
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:47,720
Fort Chaffee. That's where they filmed that one. Really, Yes,

683
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,039
But anyway, what other like other than the Broadway play

684
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,039
and those two movies had he done before he got.

685
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,559
Speaker 1: So he also was in Lady Hawk, that's right. You remember,

686
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,599
he was the mouse. And there was a movie Forgive Me.

687
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,880
I cannot think in the title of it right now,

688
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,680
but it was it had to do with sending monkeys into.

689
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: Space Rodick X. Yeah, oh, thank you.

690
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:10,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

691
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,759
Speaker 1: So it's hard to think of Matthew Broderick because in

692
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:16,720
his roles because for me, it's like Ferris Bueller runs

693
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:20,240
right down the middle between things, you know. I feel

694
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,119
like afterwards I don't see him quite as much, or

695
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,039
he begins his he starts to diminish once we get

696
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:27,960
further and further out of the eighties when he shows

697
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:32,279
up for me. But I remember him being in those

698
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:34,920
all those movies that we've talked about, and in this

699
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,359
movie there was something that was a little bit different

700
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,400
about him, and I really believe that he had honed

701
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,480
his craft on Broadway. You know, he wasn't doing the

702
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:48,720
thing where an actor becomes Ferris Bueller. The entire time

703
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:51,839
he was still It was totally an act. John Hughes

704
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,839
in his commentary says he loved that Matthew was just

705
00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:58,200
acting it out. You know, he had worked with Alan

706
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:01,119
Ruck as well on Broadway Way, and the two of

707
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,720
them just had natural chemistry right from the start. And

708
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,559
I didn't realize it until John Hughes pointed out in

709
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:11,519
the commentary and I know we're not talking about Alan Ruck,

710
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:14,920
but I brought him up. His facial expressions are just amazing.

711
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,119
I never realized how pliable his face was. And it's

712
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,920
it's very funny guy. You know, Matthew Broderick has to

713
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,039
walk a really fine line.

714
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 4: He has to be this combination of Yoda and Phonsie

715
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:35,599
and not come off as a deceitful jerk to his teachers.

716
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,199
You don't want you really have to protect against the

717
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,079
audience siding with mister Rooney in any way, right in

718
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:42,960
any way.

719
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 6: And there was even this is like later on, but

720
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,480
like there's definitely scenes that were shot that involved like

721
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:50,960
drinking and just you know, and even like how does

722
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,639
he fund this adventure in like stealing money from his parents.

723
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,920
There's things that eventually got caught. Those things were in

724
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,960
the film. I don't think it works because you have

725
00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:04,840
to you have to always side for Ferris. You always

726
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,320
have to like aspire to like I want to. Like

727
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,119
when I was sitting there in the theater with my

728
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,320
parents in the sixth grade watching this film, I wanted

729
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,480
to be Ferris. And you have to keep that for

730
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:15,599
the whole ninety minutes.

731
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 4: It's tough to do, right. He's kind of up on

732
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,199
the on the tight world with that.

733
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:22,599
Speaker 5: This is one of those very interesting I'm gonna digress

734
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:24,519
here for just a second. It's one of those very

735
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:28,440
interesting stories where the guy who you think is the

736
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,119
main character is not really the hero of the movie.

737
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:36,679
Speaker 6: No, because there's no character arc with Ferris. He says

738
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:41,119
the same, but there's multiple arcs with other characters, with

739
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:45,719
his best friend and with Genie, and those are the

740
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,519
main characters.

741
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 5: You have a character twist with Genie. But I think

742
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:54,119
that absolute hero, as far as the hero's journey goes,

743
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:56,760
has to be Cameron. Yeah, it has to be Allen

744
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,199
Rux's character because he starts in a spot of misery.

745
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,079
Like it's said he gets sick because of how miserable

746
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:08,199
his life is, and he's forced to go out on

747
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,519
this journey that he doesn't want to go out on,

748
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:16,239
and Ferris is his mentor. Ferris is the wise character

749
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,840
that leads him along. He's the Obi Wan Kenobi to

750
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:24,480
Cameron's Luke Skywalker, right. And then you have this moment

751
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:27,960
as he's as he's moved to the other side where

752
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,679
it's it's really it's one of the most beautiful parts

753
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,760
of the movie because it's absolutely to music. They're in

754
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,519
the art museum, they have all these wonderful poses. There's

755
00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:43,079
no dialogue. You see Ferris kissing Sloan in front of

756
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:46,280
this beautiful stained glass while Cameron is locked eye to

757
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,320
eye with this child this pointissm child on the George

758
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,280
Sarah painting, and it's just back and forth between their

759
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,719
two eyes, and you've you come to the conclusion that

760
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,320
he is realizing his lost childildhood, like what was it

761
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,119
like to grow up in his house? It was like

762
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:05,159
growing up in a museum. Right. Then you get to

763
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:09,039
this point where he's at his bottom. He realizes that

764
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:11,639
the mileage is one hundred and seventy three and one

765
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,920
quarter miles over what they had started with, and they

766
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,719
get to the you know, he's reached the bottom. He

767
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,280
goes catatonic and then he comes out of that. They're

768
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,960
trying to reverse it, but he's had it. He's had enough.

769
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,119
He's realized that his life has been dismal at this point,

770
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,280
and it's at this point that he's got everything changes

771
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,679
and he's going to take a stand, right or wrong.

772
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,559
He's going to take a stand.

773
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: You got to defend it, right or wrong.

774
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,559
Speaker 5: He's the hero of this story. Yeah, he is crazy.

775
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:39,920
He is.

776
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: Even from the very beginning, Ferris is even saying, the

777
00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:45,480
reason why I'm taking this day off is for Cameron.

778
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:48,800
Cameron needs a day off. In fact, Cameron is so

779
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,039
wound up, so tight that if you were to put

780
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:54,239
a lump of coal in his butt in a few days,

781
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,960
you would have a diamond. That's that's how uptight his

782
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,519
friend was.

783
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of little nuggets on Matthew Broderick before

784
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,079
we move on. Okay, he was the original choice to

785
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:06,960
play Alex P. Keaton on Family Tie. Oh how about that?

786
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: That would have been good. I would have enjoyed that

787
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,199
one too. I mean he could have both both casting

788
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,760
of that, I mean I would have enjoyed both of them.

789
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 4: He turned down the role for Johnny Utah in Point Break.

790
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,360
Do you see Matthew Broderick as an.

791
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: FBI agent, football player, football quarterback Utah?

792
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: Yes?

793
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 5: Okay, sorry, Matthew?

794
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: All right, and I got a quick trivia question. I

795
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:33,599
want to see how you guys doing this real quick?

796
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:34,119
Speaker 5: Yeah.

797
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 4: Matthew Broderick has three movies selected for the National Film

798
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,880
Registry Library of Congress. Can you name those three movies?

799
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 5: Have we talked about Harris Bueler's Day Offers, Day Off one,

800
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,840
War Games one? No.

801
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: I posed this to Dave def Dave last night and

802
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,519
he got it, but it took him a minute. Okay,

803
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:52,840
So let me ask, Are they all in the eighties?

804
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 5: No? Okay? Is one of them?

805
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,639
Speaker 4: Election no Glory? Yes, okay, Ferris Buelow's Day Off Angler,

806
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,480
you got the two eighties ones? Okay, And it's another

807
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:08,679
one in the nineties nineties, arguably bigger than Ferris Bueler's

808
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,039
Day Off.

809
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 3: I'm out man, Chuck.

810
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 5: Chuck, you got any idea?

811
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: And now I'm I'm drawing blanks on nineties movies I've

812
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,840
been living in the seventies for too long.

813
00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:20,639
Speaker 3: So you're in your ear.

814
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, go ahead.

815
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: Ninety four, let's see ninety four. I was in Okinawa.

816
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,119
What were we doing?

817
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,199
Speaker 5: That was all kinds of right, incredible movie. Right, he

818
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,400
wasn't in pulp fiction. Right, he wasn't in shosh Anng Redemption.

819
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: It's a bit of a curve, more of an ensemble.

820
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:40,639
Speaker 5: What is it?

821
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. The Lion King. He plays Simba in

822
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:47,559
The Lion King.

823
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:49,079
Speaker 3: Of course. How about that?

824
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 5: That's right? Wow, great one, thank good one. I like that.

825
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,360
I like that. Okay, So we down have Matthew Broder yep, okay,

826
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,960
So Alan ruck, Alan.

827
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 3: Ruck, Paris Bueller your money? Yeah?

828
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 4: Was he like thirty twenty nine when he did Yez?

829
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: That was the thing they were like.

830
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 6: He was like because Alan and Matthew were they were friends,

831
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:13,119
which is the explains to the chemistry you see on screen,

832
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:15,559
because they really were friends when they were doing Lexi

833
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:18,800
Blues and and Alan had his people reach out say

834
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,000
like that, I really like to do this this Ferris

835
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:24,480
Muler thing. And they came back and so now you're

836
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:27,400
you're too old. We think you're too old, and They're like, well, no,

837
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:28,920
wait a minute, I don't know if I have anything

838
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,039
past that.

839
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: Well, no way to minute, you'd be perfect for this role.

840
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:35,519
Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna say I I had never questioned

841
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:37,559
that he was in high school. I found out much

842
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:39,519
later on that he was twenty nine whenever he did this,

843
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:41,880
and I was like, oh wow, he totally sold me.

844
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:45,440
Like not, I mean, you compare to pretty in pink

845
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,119
or some kind of wonderful and yeah, those people look

846
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:50,880
like they're thirty five, but he didn't look like that.

847
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,239
It was thirty five. Okay to me if you say so. Yeah,

848
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:57,800
So tell me about the Gordy how jersey.

849
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,039
Speaker 4: So the Chuck.

850
00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: Do you know the story? I am aware that. Let's see,

851
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,000
John Hughes was a big fan of the Detroit Red Wings,

852
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:14,079
with Gordi Howe being his favorite player, and he gave

853
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,239
that shirt to Alan Ruts for Cameron to wear because

854
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,000
that would be something that Cameron would never wear. That's

855
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:22,599
the only thing I know about the story.

856
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

857
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,199
Speaker 4: So the story I heard is that growing up, John

858
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,880
Hughes was a big Gordi how fan, and it would

859
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,719
have been natural for him to have a Chicago Blackhawks

860
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,159
jersey in fact, Clark Griswold wears one oh location, but

861
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,039
John Hughes was such a Gordy holl fan that he

862
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,639
wanted that to translate to this movie. And the story

863
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:43,159
behind it is the idea that Cameron and his grandfather

864
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,199
were close and his grandfather was a Red Wings fan

865
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,840
and his dad was a Blackhawks fan, and Cameron, who

866
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,000
hated his dad, essentially sided with his granddad And that's

867
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:54,639
kind of the fictional backstory there.

868
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,159
Speaker 1: Fantastic another sports thing. Yeah, John Hughes not a fan

869
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:01,639
of Chicago Cup. But the White Sox did not play

870
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,360
during the day, so they shot the film at Wrigley.

871
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 5: What was the score?

872
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: Zero?

873
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 5: Zero winning?

874
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,079
Speaker 3: Which the score nothing there? Who was winning?

875
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 6: Wow?

876
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: The Bears.

877
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 4: I've got a little nugget on that. I want to

878
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,440
share this with you. So the Cub Game, which I've

879
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,639
been to a game in rerig actually have been to

880
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:27,639
two games, actually two Actually the Cub game highlight that

881
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,000
you see on the TV where Rooney's at the restaurant

882
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,800
is from June fifth, nineteen eighty five, where they're playing

883
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,519
the Braves, but the actual footage of Ferris and Cameron

884
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:41,000
at the game at Wrigley was from September twenty fourth,

885
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,920
nineteen eighty five, when they played the expos So two

886
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,760
different games. All right, let's talk about the lovely Mia Sarah.

887
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: What's he doing?

888
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,079
Speaker 1: He's licking the glass and making obscene gestures with his hands.

889
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 5: What hot? I don't know what else you want me

890
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,599
to say. I think the word smoke show applies or

891
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,559
absolutely smoking.

892
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: Smoke show sophisticated and it was.

893
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,159
Speaker 6: I think, you know, it really balances off the goofiness

894
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:23,639
of these other two characters. The fact that she was

895
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:27,519
she was, she was very sophisticated and and uh, it

896
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:28,800
was a great casting call.

897
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 5: What I love about her character is at the beginning,

898
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:34,400
like when you when you're first introduced to her character,

899
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,000
she's good at acting like she's acting when the nurse

900
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:40,239
comes in and she starts to put her coat on

901
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,320
and she starts to fold her books up, and the

902
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,119
nurses like Sloan Peterson, and she's like like, it's this

903
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:53,280
over dramatic, like me really, And then when she's talking

904
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,559
to Rooney, she goes into that weird thing that new

905
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:59,039
actors do where it's slightly British sounding in their accent.

906
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,760
You know, you're a beautiful, beautiful man ed, but then

907
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,920
for the rest of the movie, she's just a normal teenager. Well,

908
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:08,119
I don't know how old was.

909
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:11,039
Speaker 4: She when she auditioned. She was seventeen. They were looking

910
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:13,880
for somebody older, and they were like, what in no

911
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,199
way didn't think that you could get a teenager that

912
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,880
elegant and sophisticated and beautiful, And she pulled off all three.

913
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, she nailed it. She did the great job.

914
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 4: By the way, I've got some cool tidbits on her.

915
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 5: Okay.

916
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:31,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was married to the son of Sean Connery

917
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,119
and the son of Jim Henson two different times, obviously.

918
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:43,559
Speaker 5: But yeah, fairly famous, fairly impactful father in laws. Interesting okay.

919
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's also the very first actress to portray

920
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:53,440
Harley Quinn as a live action DC character. Yeah, DC

921
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:57,519
character on Birds of Prey. I think it was kind.

922
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: Of she was a CW very Birds of Prey after

923
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:06,599
the Margot Robbie, but obviously that.

924
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: It was a seedy CW show.

925
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 3: That's right.

926
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,599
Speaker 5: Interesting. Okay, are we going to talk about Jeffrey Jones? Now?

927
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:16,519
Speaker 4: We got to at some point, Yes, please, let's do it.

928
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,119
Speaker 3: Translation, the game is up, your ass.

929
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,639
Speaker 5: Is mind gets real awkward and it's not awkward because

930
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:33,000
of Howard the Duck. What I know is that Jeffrey

931
00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:38,280
Jones had some unseemly charges that were filed against him,

932
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,960
and he was ultimately convicted of which is a blemish

933
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:46,039
on especially this movie and on his amazing performance in

934
00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:49,960
this movie. I guess he actually was released ultimately, but

935
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:51,320
I think he served some time.

936
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: Well.

937
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:57,519
Speaker 4: He was arrested for creating pornography with a young male

938
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:00,800
child and then had to register there's a sex fender

939
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,519
and blah blah blah. And when he moved around, there

940
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:06,199
were a couple of times that he failed to alert

941
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,360
them that he was moving and didn't check in and

942
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,000
got rearrested twice. And that's all I want to say

943
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,880
about that, all right, But if we can just somehow

944
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:22,519
move that decide, he does such an amazing job in

945
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:25,519
this movie. Absolutely, if we can pretend like none of

946
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:28,760
that happened, we would be praising as one of the

947
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,519
great villains in eighties movies history.

948
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 5: This movie is not this movie without Ed Rooney and

949
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,159
without him as Ed Rooney. Yeah, tell you what, dips.

950
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: You don't like my policies, you can just come on

951
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,039
down here and smooch, my big old white button can't

952
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,119
pucker up, buttercup.

953
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,559
Speaker 7: Paris buemers online too.

954
00:46:56,559 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 4: Even the little things that like when he's sprinting by

955
00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:01,039
and then slows down to walk by the windows, and

956
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:02,719
then sprinting and then walking.

957
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: When he's at his desk at the very beginning, and

958
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,000
you see that he's like flicking little pieces of dirt,

959
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:10,280
which is slightly ironic because at the very end he's

960
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,719
just completely covered in dirt. He cannot keep that same clean, pristine.

961
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,199
He's great. What I like about the character of Rooney

962
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,559
is that you know he's he's losing control of the

963
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:26,760
student body to this one bad apple that is Ferris Bueller,

964
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,280
and he is bound and determined to bring him to

965
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,800
heal and to a degree, he's almost obsessed with Bueller.

966
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:39,400
It's his white whale, and it causes him to go

967
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:42,920
beyond the pale of what he should do it the

968
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,199
moment he leaves the school grounds, he is out of

969
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,119
reality and out of line. But it is such an

970
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:50,840
interesting journey that he's on.

971
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 5: He is on a road to nowhere.

972
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: Just now, with your bad knee, you shouldn't throw anybody.

973
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 6: You know how many times I say that nine, Oh

974
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,639
my gosh, nine times the word nine.

975
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: Hughes found how he just found it funny because when

976
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,079
you say nine, there's a nasal aspect of it that

977
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:17,199
comes out that other words just don't have. And it was

978
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,159
also at the time too, right who had computers at

979
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:23,280
their house, let alone, who had computers that could connect

980
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,679
to other computers and then cause their grades or their

981
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,000
missed absences to just magically go down. I thought that

982
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,039
that whole sequence was one that was I don't know,

983
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:39,599
it was the initial office sequence of introducing him, of

984
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:42,840
introducing Eating mcclerk's Grace's character.

985
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 7: Oh well, he's very popular ed the sportos and motor hits, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, doweebees, dickheads.

986
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:55,400
They all adorn it. They think he's a righteous dude

987
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:56,119
in there.

988
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: I just thought that whole thing was funny every time

989
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,000
I watched this film. This is probably my between Ferris's

990
00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:08,920
twenty different outfit changes and Eadie McClure, Grace, Grace Grace.

991
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:12,519
Speaker 6: What I love the fact too, that that scene where

992
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:16,199
they're like rustling around in the office and he thinks

993
00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:19,400
he's talking to to Ferris and he's gonna bust him,

994
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,639
and then Ferris is on the other line, but you know,

995
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:24,679
and then then he thinks he's actually talking to mister Peterson.

996
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:25,559
Speaker 3: One take.

997
00:49:26,039 --> 00:49:28,639
Speaker 6: That whole thing was done in one take, and because

998
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,239
Edie was holding, she had all this background in improv

999
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,400
and he is so straight laced, he is like he

1000
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,920
is used to doing Broadway. This is the script, this

1001
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,480
is what you say, and in a little bit of

1002
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:43,679
her rubbed up on him and even just the idea

1003
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:46,400
of like she said, Okay, we're going to do this

1004
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,480
thing where I'm trying to help you, but I'm actually

1005
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:52,719
hindering you. So if you go this way, I'm going

1006
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,239
to go the other way. Like whatever you do, I'm

1007
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,480
going to do the opposite. And they just they're just

1008
00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:58,320
kind of fooling around, just trying to figure it out.

1009
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:02,039
And then John, here's the like great moving on one take.

1010
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,159
Speaker 1: So I have to bring up Iron Newborn, who was

1011
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:08,679
the He wrote the I'm not going to say he

1012
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,559
wrote the score because this film really does not have

1013
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:14,519
an orchestral score per se. It has musical cues, and

1014
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:17,000
he wrote a bunch of these cues that are all

1015
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,400
throughout the film, and the one you just talked about

1016
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,639
Dave is so subtle, and it's so funny when you

1017
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,079
hear it, because when you hear it, you can't unhear it.

1018
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,320
He's looking at the phone and he realizes he has

1019
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,239
to push the button one to talk to Ferris, and

1020
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:39,039
you hear the death knell of a bell. Yeah, just

1021
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:42,280
so subtle that he knows that, oh gosh, I have

1022
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,079
insulted this man to his face and wanting to bring

1023
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:47,480
out his dead grandma.

1024
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, since we're going to talk about this. I

1025
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,559
didn't realize the beauty of this, of that entire sequence

1026
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,760
until today. I mean, I always loved what was happening.

1027
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,119
But you have a beautiful trans position in those two scenes,

1028
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:04,159
because it's not just one scene. It's you've got a

1029
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:07,280
back and forth between two scenes. And at the first

1030
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:11,960
of the Ed Rooney scene, he's all cool and collected

1031
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,559
because he thinks he's got them figured out, and then

1032
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:19,119
it moves into that chaos where they are both they're

1033
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:22,440
both running back and forth, right, and it's nuts. While

1034
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:26,840
that's going on, on the other line, you have Cameron

1035
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:29,239
talking on the phone being very cool.

1036
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,039
Speaker 3: Pardon my French, but you're an asshole.

1037
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,639
Speaker 5: Asshole, you have Ferris come in and the James Bond

1038
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,360
music plays because he is so cool looking, and then

1039
00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:44,960
that falls apart. So immediately after you have Ed and

1040
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:47,280
Grace do their comic.

1041
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 3: Vaudeville badoop doo doo, it goes.

1042
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 5: Straight into Cameron and Ferris doing it, slaps the phone.

1043
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:56,519
Why'd you hit me? Well, like, what are you doing?

1044
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:57,679
Speaker 4: We'll have lunch sometime.

1045
00:51:58,039 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all this. It's this beautiful switch for both

1046
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:05,000
of them, one right on top of the other. Absolute

1047
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:06,400
filming genius.

1048
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:08,679
Speaker 4: Okay. I was just gonna mention what you talked about

1049
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:12,360
there in the movie Theater I remember specifically the place

1050
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,039
died laughing number one, when Grace is talking on the

1051
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:22,159
phone going ooh, just trying to buy time, and camera's

1052
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:25,599
going Rooney, calm down, calm down, Roney, and the whole

1053
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:28,239
place was dying. But when it flips back and you

1054
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,559
realize that Cameron is the one impersonating mister Peterson and

1055
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:34,639
he said, you know, it cuts to him and he goes, well,

1056
00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:38,119
I should say, you do you know the place died laughing?

1057
00:52:38,199 --> 00:52:42,079
When you realize, oh that's Cameron, that's not mister Peterson.

1058
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 3: I have a fun fact about that.

1059
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, okay, So that voice that Cameron is doing, Yes,

1060
00:52:48,119 --> 00:52:50,159
you know what that is?

1061
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:52,199
Speaker 4: Is it the director from Biloxi Blues.

1062
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:52,639
Speaker 3: Yes.

1063
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 6: So when Matthew and Alan were in Biloxi Blues, it

1064
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,719
was directed by a guy named Gene Sacks, and he

1065
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,000
just he was, you know, very matter of fact and

1066
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:04,199
how we talk and how we would do things and

1067
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,679
Matthew and it was like, there's never die. Yeah, they

1068
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:10,840
would be messing around. He'd get real upset. He would

1069
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,440
just like yell at him. And Matthew had an impression

1070
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,119
of Gene Sacks. So that is Alan doing an impression

1071
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,719
of Matthew doing an impression of Gene Sacks. And after

1072
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,280
you had no idea he was going to do this,

1073
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,400
so he just pulls that out. Matthew was like, while

1074
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,360
they're filming this, he knows exactly what he's doing, and

1075
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,639
he was just wanting to see if he could get

1076
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:31,760
a rise out of Matthew.

1077
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 4: I love it.

1078
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,639
Speaker 5: That's brilliant too, because when I heard it for the

1079
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:38,039
first time, I thought it was Matthew Brodrick. I thought

1080
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:40,840
it was Matthew Broderick being mister Peterson. I was like, Oh,

1081
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,360
he's just doing a voice. So it's a brilliant acting

1082
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,800
choice to go, I'm going to do an impression of

1083
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,320
my friend doing an impression, right, It's genius.

1084
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: Was this phone trick number one or number two? Because

1085
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,320
this film is full of phone gags where they use

1086
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,880
the phone gag. This very same gag will get used

1087
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:02,960
later at Shaky's as well. Yeah, where they have person

1088
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:04,079
online one in line too.

1089
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 5: Sorry speaking of that, and I didn't even I like,

1090
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,800
we talked about it as this scene is going on.

1091
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,840
He's on the phone just before this with Ferris' mom.

1092
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:17,320
He's got the screen right in front of him. I'm

1093
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,159
looking at it right here, right after nine times, and

1094
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,119
we see the absences going down. I had no trouble

1095
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:27,280
believing this because just a year or two earlier I

1096
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,440
had seen Matthew Broderick do the very same thing, except

1097
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,360
with his grades arga. He was there with Ali Sheety

1098
00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:38,559
changing that what do you want? What you want to be? Yes?

1099
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: The pastor was still pens.

1100
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so you mentioned ferris mom, Cindy Pickett Okay,

1101
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:54,159
Norman resident Cindy Pickett.

1102
00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:55,199
Speaker 5: Norman is where we live.

1103
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 4: Yes, for those of no don't know what we're talking

1104
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,400
about born in Sand Springs. I believe rais and went

1105
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,440
to Norman High.

1106
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 5: Sand Springs is just outside of Tulsa, where Jason grew up.

1107
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 4: Yep, David, you go to Norman High.

1108
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,079
Speaker 3: I did go to Norman High.

1109
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 4: You rode in the hallways with Cindy Pickett.

1110
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,559
Speaker 6: Apparently something I'm gonna have to I will pull up

1111
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,800
bind is blowing as we.

1112
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 3: When did you graduate ninety two?

1113
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's gonna be wa before you got Yeah.

1114
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,079
Speaker 4: Okay, dig up some yearbooks, and I'm gonna go and

1115
00:55:25,159 --> 00:55:27,760
tell a nugget that many of you probably know. She

1116
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:31,559
and Lyman Ward, who plays Ferris' dad, fell in love

1117
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:35,039
on this set and later got married, married, married.

1118
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,039
Speaker 5: Married married.

1119
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:43,519
Speaker 4: It was to love, all right. So we blew past

1120
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:46,239
Jennifer Gray. Let's talk about Jennifer Grafers.

1121
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,519
Speaker 3: Bite the Big Ones Jr. Thank you, Genie. I can't

1122
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:49,880
believe this.

1123
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: If I was bleeding out my eyes, you guys would

1124
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:52,480
make me go to school.

1125
00:55:52,519 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 3: This is so unfair.

1126
00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 5: Okay, she's been in a couple of movies at this point.

1127
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,800
At this point, she had been in Red Dawn. That's right,

1128
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:02,679
came out at three. She was cast but not had

1129
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:04,760
not appeared yet in Dirty Dancing.

1130
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,039
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. She is the daughter of Joel Gray,

1131
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,039
who was a Broadway producer.

1132
00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 5: I believe, Broadway actor. Yeah he was.

1133
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,119
Speaker 4: He was what's the name of the Is it Chicago?

1134
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,440
It may be Chicago.

1135
00:56:19,519 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 5: I think it was Chicago. He's like the guy character

1136
00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:25,440
in Chicago. Anyway, he is also because I didn't see

1137
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,840
that one. He is also the guy in Remo Williams

1138
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:36,440
the Chinese. The Adventures of Williams is the because he refused,

1139
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,239
he was like, no, I'm not going to get somebody

1140
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,360
Chinese to play the guy. But then they did the

1141
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,079
makeup for him. He's like, Okay, I can do this.

1142
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:45,119
So yeah, the guy who can dodge the bullets, that's

1143
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:45,719
Joel Gray.

1144
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 4: You move like a pregnant yeck wow, okay, interesting, okay.

1145
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,320
Once again. At the time, to me, when I heard

1146
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,199
this the first time when I was in high school,

1147
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,559
the idea that Genie Bueller and Ferris Bueller were not

1148
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:04,000
only playing brother and sister but actually were in love

1149
00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:07,840
in real life and were engaged at the time. Crazy

1150
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,519
and had it not been for a tragic car crash Ireland.

1151
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:16,079
In Ireland, I think they were. I think Matthew Brodrick

1152
00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:18,760
was driving on the improper side of the road.

1153
00:57:18,679 --> 00:57:23,639
Speaker 5: It was intoxicated, and the death resulted in the other car.

1154
00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:25,119
So not a good scenario at all.

1155
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: No, I think, you know, Jennifer Gray talks about how

1156
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,679
like I think Dirty Dancing was completed but maybe not released.

1157
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,760
That sounds right, But the accident and the death and

1158
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,639
the subsequent success of Dirty Dancing, she could never truly

1159
00:57:41,719 --> 00:57:46,079
really enjoy that success because of what had happened. Okay,

1160
00:57:46,119 --> 00:57:47,280
I don't know if you guys know this or not.

1161
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,400
Jennifer Gray is actually married to Clark Gregg, who played

1162
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,400
Phil Coulson from the Avengers movies.

1163
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 5: His first name is Agent.

1164
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:01,199
Speaker 4: Agent Coulson. Yeah. He actually he married her post uh

1165
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:06,079
nose job, so he recognizes her. Nobody else does.

1166
00:58:06,119 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 5: Uh yeah unless they start her on Friends for the

1167
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:08,840
first time.

1168
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: She's kind of smoke show now Yeah.

1169
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it made her face cuter, but less memorable.

1170
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 4: Less memorable, less recognizable.

1171
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1172
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 6: I think the reason why Jennifer got the parts she

1173
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,719
talks about when she walked in to the audition, she

1174
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kind of didn't really want it. She was like in

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00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:29,960
a mood or whatever she was. She kind of walked

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00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,159
in unintentionally being the Genie character, like what is it?

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00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:34,559
Speaker 3: What do you got?

1178
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 5: Attitude?

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00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And there's just this you know.

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00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 6: I think that's so beautiful because she has to be

1181
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,559
just I can't say the word because I work in

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00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:46,199
the church, right, but she has.

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00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:46,599
Speaker 3: To be that.

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00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 6: But you also have to like like her, like like

1185
00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:53,199
there's that again. It's a fine line, like you can't

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00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,079
just you have there's a balancing act that always has

1187
00:58:56,079 --> 00:58:59,280
to happen, that there's something that you can relate with her,

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00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:03,440
even in the midst of her just being a.

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Speaker 5: Stone cold b Yeah, hi, Genie, who's bothering you? Now?

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00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:14,519
Speaker 4: They expecting you in class? Probably? Yeah, Her sourpuss attitude

1191
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:18,559
comes out right off the bat. She's like, oh, traffic,

1192
00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:19,440
what's his problem?

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00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:22,719
Speaker 5: The only the problem that I have is that like

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00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,760
she's like I knew it, and I'm like, he was

1195
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,880
making faces at you, like shushing you and like winking

1196
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,599
at you in the bedroom at the beginning of the movie,

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00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:32,320
we know you.

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00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,039
Speaker 4: Everybody knows you knew it, Like how did you not?

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Speaker 5: What? How did you get confused about what's going on?

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00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 4: Genie's maybe the only person that has him truly figured out,

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00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:42,360
of course she does.

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Speaker 1: This is something that I think is really great between

1203
00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:48,239
the characters is that is that this is a brother

1204
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,760
sister relationship. Who doesn't have a brother and sister relationship

1205
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,519
where it's like, oh, one of them is trying to

1206
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:56,960
get away. Why does mom and dad love everything that

1207
00:59:57,039 --> 01:00:00,239
he does? If I try to do anything, nobody would

1208
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,960
even care. And then she goes off screen. And the

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01:00:03,039 --> 01:00:05,800
sound design is something else that's also amazing in this film.

1210
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,800
You hear a car peeling out of the driveway, and

1211
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,960
in the establishing shot you see that there's a a

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01:00:12,039 --> 01:00:15,960
white Fierro sitting out there. Those cars infamously would catch

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01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,559
on fire, and.

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Speaker 5: She just she just tears tears off.

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01:00:20,519 --> 01:00:20,679
Speaker 3: You know.

1216
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: I know we were kind of wrapping up the casting

1217
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,320
on Ferris Bueller, but I did want to mention some

1218
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,440
of the other characters in the film. I wanted to,

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01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:31,039
first of all, just note I think this was the

1220
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:33,599
first time that I had ever seen ben Stein. In fact,

1221
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:35,840
I don't even think he was an actor. I just

1222
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,039
think he was just a very He was very good

1223
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:42,079
at playing a very dull individual in the film.

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Speaker 3: Buehler. Buehler, He's sick.

1225
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,559
Speaker 4: My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this

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guy who knows this kid is going with the girl

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01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:56,079
who saw Ferris pass out at thirty one Flavors last night.

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Speaker 7: I guess it's pretty serious.

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01:00:59,079 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 4: Thank you, simm No problem whatsoever. Richard Nixon.

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01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 3: He wasn't necessarily an actor.

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01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 6: He was there because originally that scene was supposed to

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be a teacher off camera, and the way that he spoke,

1233
01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:15,480
the kids would laugh. They're like, there's something about when

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01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:18,079
we put him on screen, and then they said, hey,

1235
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:20,199
do you have like some like speech you could like

1236
01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:21,880
like some kind of like letch you could give real

1237
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,679
fast And that's where the voodoo economics comes something.

1238
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I can. I can talk about smooth

1239
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,280
Holly and the terror effact and did it get us

1240
01:01:31,559 --> 01:01:35,559
further or did it improve it was further anyone? And

1241
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:38,559
then when he's calling out and then I kind of

1242
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:40,880
noticed that the only time that you actually see, you know,

1243
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,440
kind of that Ferris Bueller actually would go to that

1244
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,159
school is when they're calling out for attendance and it

1245
01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:49,599
shows the one empty seat over there that Ferris would

1246
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:50,920
have been, and of course it's in the back of

1247
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,639
the room, which would have been perfect for Ferris Bueller.

1248
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,239
Speaker 5: What I love about that scene are there are eight

1249
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,159
people with the last name that starts with an A,

1250
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,639
one person with the last name that starts with a bee,

1251
01:02:02,039 --> 01:02:03,159
and then they jumped a fry.

1252
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: One other character, very very minor character, but the actor

1253
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:15,280
is notorious is the English teacher. The English Teacher was

1254
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,920
played by Dell Close. You may have remembered him from

1255
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,239
the movie The Untouchables. You think you are all untouchable?

1256
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:27,239
You know Dell Close? No way, Yeah, that was him.

1257
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:28,519
Speaker 5: Dell Close.

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01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,519
Speaker 1: Also, he was this improv genius from Second City, Chicago's

1259
01:02:33,519 --> 01:02:37,679
Second City Troop, not the Canadian Second City spin off

1260
01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:41,239
of that one, but he was. He From the early eighties,

1261
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,840
he served on SNL as the house metaphysician to all

1262
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,519
of the SNL staff. Many of the show casts at

1263
01:02:49,519 --> 01:02:54,199
that time were his proteges. When he died, he wanted

1264
01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:57,719
to leave his skull to one of the acting troops

1265
01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:01,239
so that they could use it in Hamlet. That didn't happen.

1266
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,320
And I'll tell you so, I said, I remembered him

1267
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,079
from The Untouchables. I did also want to cast out

1268
01:03:07,079 --> 01:03:10,639
that if you remember the nineteen eighty was at eighty

1269
01:03:10,679 --> 01:03:15,880
six eighty seven remake of The Blob with Chuck Russell's

1270
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,039
Night eighty eight Chuck Russell, Thank You. He played the

1271
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:22,599
reverend character, the kind of the wacky preacher guy who

1272
01:03:22,639 --> 01:03:24,760
at the end he has the Blob at the end,

1273
01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:28,599
but he also has another Blob story in that. He

1274
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:31,559
was also in the nineteen seventy two sequel to the

1275
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:36,559
Steve McQueen Blob called be Where the Blob, and I

1276
01:03:36,719 --> 01:03:40,840
talked with Jeff Johnson about that and David Burns's last

1277
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,960
October when we were covering the whole Chuck Russell Blob,

1278
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,599
and you can go over there if you're on their Patreon,

1279
01:03:47,159 --> 01:03:49,559
you can listen to an extended version where we actually

1280
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,119
dive into the Steve McQueen version, and I saved David

1281
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,599
and Jeff the trouble of watching the seventy two version

1282
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:02,599
because it's pretty unliele. But anyways, we talked about that,

1283
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,599
and the last actress that I wanted to talk about

1284
01:04:05,639 --> 01:04:09,760
was Christy Swanson who shows up as Simone now Christy Swanson.

1285
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,159
The last time we saw her, she was duck At

1286
01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:15,440
in Pretty and Pink, as Jason mentioned earlier, and she

1287
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,559
would go on in the film version of Buffy the

1288
01:04:17,639 --> 01:04:21,239
Vampire Slayer, and she was in this really little known

1289
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:26,199
West Craven film called My Deadly Friend, which if you

1290
01:04:26,239 --> 01:04:28,559
haven't seen it again, I'm gonna have you go over

1291
01:04:28,599 --> 01:04:32,960
to a film by podcast and listen to Jeff myself

1292
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,960
and the slasher girl herself, Amanda Jantic when we talked

1293
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:42,039
about that film, and I also calculated the airspeed velocity

1294
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,920
of a basketball and how fast it would have to

1295
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,480
be thrown in order to crush a skull. So check

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01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:51,159
that one out.

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Speaker 5: Nice.

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01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 4: We love the film by podcast. What is one of

1299
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,199
our good buddies.

1300
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,039
Speaker 5: One of the things I loved about the text Threat

1301
01:04:57,119 --> 01:04:59,480
is that somehow in that process of talking about Christy

1302
01:04:59,559 --> 01:05:03,880
Swanson and I found out that there was a Mannequin two,

1303
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,320
which I had no idea about, and that she was

1304
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,239
the mannequin in Mannequin two, which then made me start

1305
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,880
looking at mannequin thinking what would be a good matchup

1306
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,679
for this movie where you've got kind of this sort

1307
01:05:16,719 --> 01:05:19,039
of a live sort of dead thing. And I was like, oh,

1308
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,800
Weekend at Bernie's, And as it turns out, that guy

1309
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,480
who is Bernie and Weekend at Bernie's is in Mannequin two.

1310
01:05:26,519 --> 01:05:27,239
How weird is that?

1311
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:29,519
Speaker 4: Sounds like a match up to me? There you go,

1312
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,880
all right, just a couple of the people I want

1313
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,719
to bring up from the cast of Ferris Bueler's Day Off.

1314
01:05:34,159 --> 01:05:38,800
You have Louie Anderson, who barely gets seen.

1315
01:05:38,599 --> 01:05:40,519
Speaker 6: And he was supposed to have like he had a whole,

1316
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:41,800
a whole.

1317
01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 3: Thing that was on the cutting room floor.

1318
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,039
Speaker 1: And Johnny's you can see all the flowers, all the

1319
01:05:47,079 --> 01:05:49,880
flowers at the end that are in the hallway. I

1320
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:55,000
mean there's tons of them, and Louie only showed up twice.

1321
01:05:55,159 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 4: And then you've got Larry Flash Jenkins, who we talked

1322
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:02,119
about when we did Fletch. Please go and Fletch. But uh,

1323
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,960
the real person I want to talk about is Charlie Sheen.

1324
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:08,239
Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, what about the partner of because the

1325
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,119
guy who was in Fletch was the was one of

1326
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:14,920
the two guys in the garage that stole the Ferrari.

1327
01:06:15,079 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 4: Yes, Richard Edison is the name of the other guy.

1328
01:06:17,639 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 5: He just passed away like last year, right, yeah, I

1329
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:20,079
think so.

1330
01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 4: I didn't know that.

1331
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:26,079
Speaker 3: You speak English. What country do you think this is?

1332
01:06:28,239 --> 01:06:31,679
Speaker 4: But he's what country? Do you think this is it?

1333
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:35,480
He's funny, great, Everyboddy in this movie. It's so iconic.

1334
01:06:35,519 --> 01:06:38,800
We know all the all the players right exactly. But

1335
01:06:39,199 --> 01:06:42,000
Charlie Sheen has a brief cameo. He had been in

1336
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:45,920
Red Dawn with Jennifer Gray yep, and actually John Hughes

1337
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,159
wanted Amelia Estevez to play Cameron, and Emili Estavez turn

1338
01:06:49,239 --> 01:06:51,639
him down, so he ends up, Okay, well we'll bring

1339
01:06:51,639 --> 01:06:57,280
your brother in and Charlie Sheen plays old Beck Garth Volbach.

1340
01:06:57,679 --> 01:06:59,920
Tell me the nugget, because when you told me this

1341
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,880
the other day, my mind was blown.

1342
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,519
Speaker 1: Well, this was actually something that Dave had thrown out

1343
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:08,239
in the text thread, and I said something along the

1344
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:12,880
line of I knew it was something Vulvov, but I

1345
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,559
couldn't quite get it. And of course Dave he nailed

1346
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:20,519
the name down perfectly. But I think, as David already said,

1347
01:07:20,679 --> 01:07:23,199
the first cut of this film was two hours and

1348
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,199
forty five minutes. I mean, it was a long first cut,

1349
01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:30,920
probably the longest first cut that the editor Paul Hirsch

1350
01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:34,440
had ever done before, and which I kind of find

1351
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:40,119
hard to believe with Star Wars. But anyways, so a

1352
01:07:40,119 --> 01:07:43,480
lot of stuff got cut out, and you'll notice that

1353
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,639
that name still shows up in the film because the

1354
01:07:47,719 --> 01:07:52,440
tow truck that takes Rooney's car away is the Rullback

1355
01:07:52,679 --> 01:07:55,880
Towing Company and it's his dad that's doing the car

1356
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:57,559
setting toeing the car.

1357
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 4: Now.

1358
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how that was actually related back to

1359
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,199
Charlie Sheen's character other than this is what was said

1360
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:07,239
on the director's commentary by John Hughes and Dave. I

1361
01:08:07,239 --> 01:08:10,239
don't know if you had any more about that than there.

1362
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:12,159
Speaker 6: Was even supposed to be like a like a side

1363
01:08:12,199 --> 01:08:15,519
story that they were the people that the mom was

1364
01:08:15,559 --> 01:08:20,479
showing the house too, which I know about how that works,

1365
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,800
if you know, if you're moving to town but you

1366
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:27,680
also own a toy company. But they said that that

1367
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,359
was part of it. I don't know how that would

1368
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:29,920
have fit.

1369
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,359
Speaker 4: To the damn vant people.

1370
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,560
Speaker 5: Wow, and he's already in for drugs.

1371
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 4: Why don't you seek your thumb up your butt?

1372
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 7: Uh?

1373
01:08:42,159 --> 01:08:45,520
Speaker 4: Okay? Anything else? On casting for Ferris Bueler's Day Off.

1374
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: One last thing I had to make it right. I

1375
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,680
was trying to hold off. I should have said this

1376
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,279
back when we're talking about Alan ruck, but I have

1377
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:59,119
to pull it out that He is the Ferris Bueller

1378
01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:03,840
Star Trek reference. He played Captain Harringman in a Star

1379
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:08,399
Trek Generations. He was Captain of the Enterprise NCC seventeen

1380
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,520
zero one B model Nice. I had to pull Star

1381
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:14,399
Trek out somewhere.

1382
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,520
Speaker 4: Hey, if you haven't listened to our Star Trek motion picture,

1383
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,279
what the heck happened? Whereas me and d and Chuck,

1384
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:21,439
you need to go back and listen to that.

1385
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 5: Absolutely, guys, that does it for this part of the matchup.

1386
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,279
We will be back next week for part two of

1387
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:34,079
Ferous Bueller's Day Off versus Adventures in Babysitting. We will

1388
01:09:34,079 --> 01:09:36,640
talk about casting for Adventures in Babysitting, We will talk

1389
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,399
about music, we will talk about tidbits, and then we

1390
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,520
will give our final judgment on which of these two

1391
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,960
movies is better. And I know you will all just

1392
01:09:45,079 --> 01:09:46,520
on the edge of your seat figure out what we're

1393
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,239
going to say about that. So see you all next.

1394
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 4: Week, and we promise we'll talk about Adventures Babysitting too.

1395
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,079
Speaker 1: SI. Last cast person that I want to talk about

1396
01:10:02,359 --> 01:10:05,079
has to be Simoon because.

1397
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:11,359
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sorry, Yeah, get give the Himlake, Dave. No,

1398
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,439
we've all done it. You just did. You didn't need a.

1399
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,159
Speaker 4: It's like when it happens in church, you can't stop it.

1400
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: It's like laughing in church. It's like the worst.

1401
01:10:24,279 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 3: I've never come back. Just please,