Speaker 1: Oh red des are, Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan,
Speaker 2: I'm Jacob, and today we are getting into what the
Speaker 2: mainstream media would have you believe, the myth of Antifa.
Speaker 3: It doesn't exist, Jacob, only in your imagination.
Speaker 4: That's so crazy, That is so crazy, because I've actually
Speaker 4: seen them with my own eyeballs, like face to face
Speaker 4: in New Orleans more than once. So like, yeah, I know,
Speaker 4: I guess, I guess I'm just on one. You're guess
Speaker 4: I'd just be making shit up. You're tripping, dude there.
Speaker 4: Clearly these people are anti fascist. You should be on
Speaker 4: their side, okay, And with that sentiment, I can be.
Speaker 4: I can be against fascism and also against communism at
Speaker 4: the same time. And why, you may ask, Jacob, why
Speaker 4: are you bringing up communism and Antifa at the same time. Oh,
Speaker 4: We're gonna get into all of the nitty gritty details here.
Speaker 4: So depending on which side of the media you derive
Speaker 4: your sources from, half of the media is saying that
Speaker 4: Antifa literally doesn't exist. It is made up, It is fictitious,
Speaker 4: it is fairy tales. The guys out there screaming with
Speaker 4: the signs claiming that they are Antifa, like, you're imagining shit,
Speaker 4: that's not real.
Speaker 5: The other side of the media argument.
Speaker 4: Is saying this is an obvious domestic terrorist organization and
Speaker 4: needs to be stopped. That being said, the Ku Klux
Speaker 4: Klan is a domestic terrorist organization. That's not a joke.
Speaker 4: This is real life, okay, and I agree with that statement.
Speaker 4: The FBI and the CIA keep an eye on them
Speaker 4: in case they decide they want to do something squirrely like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they're allowed to operate, but they're not doing acts of
Speaker 4: terror these days. The sit in civil rights right, this
Speaker 4: is in the early nineteen hundreds. They have their finger
Speaker 4: on the pulse of the clan to see what they're
Speaker 4: doing next. As a matter of fact, there's a movie
Speaker 4: that came out about the First Black Clansmen. So if
Speaker 4: anybody's curious to what level the government is involved and
Speaker 4: or infiltrated the clan, that's a thing. This being said,
Speaker 4: Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization. Now what classifies somebody
Speaker 4: or a group as a domestic terrorist organization rather than
Speaker 4: just a domestic movement, political movement, religion, an idea, whatever
Speaker 4: doing violence to further political gains or goals or motives,
Speaker 4: whatever the case. If you are committing an act of
Speaker 4: violence with political motives behind you, you.
Speaker 5: Are now by definition a terrole risk.
Speaker 2: You know what the crazy part is too, is that
Speaker 2: Trump actually just made it.
Speaker 3: I just saw this earlier today.
Speaker 2: But Trump just made it to where if anybody made
Speaker 2: a pro Luigi Mangione post on social media, you are
Speaker 2: they can rightfully like arrest you.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard that. Mm yeah, Now, Luigi man Gion
Speaker 4: wasn't Antifa, he was anti insurance agents.
Speaker 2: Right, but anybody that was supporting him and you know,
Speaker 2: like parading him and saying what a hero he was, Dude,
Speaker 2: they're coming after you. Like, so you want to talk
Speaker 2: about like free speech absolutely being taken away in the
Speaker 2: guise of well you're a bad and we disagree with you,
Speaker 2: We're going to take away your rights.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 2: This is becoming fucking Canada, It's becoming Australia, it's becoming
Speaker 2: the UK to where if you make a social media
Speaker 2: fucking post, they can now come after you.
Speaker 4: Interesting you bring up Canada, we are going to be
Speaker 4: talking about them because did you know, Jonathan that the
Speaker 4: Canadian government has been funding their branch of Antifa to
Speaker 4: the tune of nine hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Well, that's not possible. Antifa doesn't exist, for fuck's.
Speaker 4: Sake, man, I don't even know who to believe anymore. Well, look,
Speaker 4: we do have receipts.
Speaker 2: We do have plenty of receipts, and we have a project,
Speaker 2: our Operation Mockingbird nineteen point zero going on right now
Speaker 2: with all the mainstream media talking heads, including everybody's favorite
Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel, who everybody is crying over because he got canceled.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I don't think anybody should get canceled.
Speaker 4: But he got his job back, and they finally then
Speaker 4: gave him his job back.
Speaker 3: Like days later. Yeah, he got his job back, which
Speaker 3: I and it's.
Speaker 4: Saying it was because the Disney headquarters got shot up
Speaker 4: or something like this, And it's like, bro, the headquarters
Speaker 4: that got bullets fired at it, Yes, is miles and
Speaker 4: miles and miles and miles and miles away from La Like,
Speaker 4: it's not even in the same county. So this these
Speaker 4: are two completely separate conversations. But sure that's why Jimmy's back.
Speaker 2: Well, I I and I just I agree that he
Speaker 2: should have never gotten canceled in the first place. Like now,
Speaker 2: that being said, if somebody gets kicked off of ABC
Speaker 2: or Disney or something like that, you know, them being
Speaker 2: canceled by the brand that is carrying them, that's kind
Speaker 2: of a different thing. Because he didn't get canceled from
Speaker 2: the internet. I mean, he could just do what you
Speaker 2: know Tucker Carlson and all the others did, where you know,
Speaker 2: they just start a YouTube show or a Twitter show
Speaker 2: or you know, a podcast or something like that.
Speaker 4: Like drop the syndication and make all of the money
Speaker 4: for yourself. I don't understand why he didn't just do that.
Speaker 4: Fine on fired to watch what I'm gonna do next,
Speaker 4: and just start his own thing. But for some reason
Speaker 4: that just what in the case, I wonder why?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so, But anyhow, we're gonna get to all
Speaker 2: of that. But first I wanted to tell y'all about
Speaker 2: our newest partnership. It is actually with Good Feels THC
Speaker 2: infused drinks. Okay, it's a cannabis seltzer, and these things
Speaker 2: are so freaking delicious.
Speaker 4: We tried it out, dude.
Speaker 2: It goes down smooth, it's zero carbs, it's zero sugar.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no calories in this thing. We looked
Speaker 2: up the specifics on it to try and see because
Speaker 2: I hit it, well, I hit it. I drank it once,
Speaker 2: and dude, I was like, man, I'm getting a little
Speaker 2: buzz off of just one can five milligrams of THC
Speaker 2: per one. Now I'm a lightweight, so five milligram is
Speaker 2: going to do some damage to me, right, But but
Speaker 2: you know, you can get it in a three pack,
Speaker 2: a six pack, can get a twelve pack, even a
Speaker 2: full case of them. These things are so delicious and
Speaker 2: anybody that likes Seltzer drinks and wants to be able
Speaker 2: to drink their THC. By the way, there's no alcohol
Speaker 2: in this it's just just THHC.
Speaker 4: So so it's a high quality, natural, natural ingredients and
Speaker 4: very consistent experience and it's awesome.
Speaker 2: So anybody wants to be able to go and check
Speaker 2: that out. It's Good Feels THC. It's in the link
Speaker 2: down below.
Speaker 4: Go check it out.
Speaker 2: You'll get twenty percent off just by clicking on the link. Okay,
Speaker 2: just want to throw that out there, so shout out
Speaker 2: to Good Feels for a delicious.
Speaker 4: No promote code or anything like that. They just got
Speaker 4: to click the link and they're there. Just the link.
Speaker 2: It's already infused, like the THCHC is into the Seltzer Sir.
Speaker 4: I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: Fuck yah, it's awesome. So anyhow, look, we wanted to
Speaker 2: share something. Moving on from the business end, we wanted
Speaker 2: to share something, you know, the mockingbird media doing what
Speaker 2: they do. We were like, hold on, you're trying to
Speaker 2: tell me that Antifa doesn't exist. We've seen all these riots,
Speaker 2: all the BLM stuff.
Speaker 4: Was it. I'm not going to.
Speaker 2: Say majority Antifa, but a lot of it was heavily
Speaker 2: interwoven in there.
Speaker 4: Right. And also, like it's understood that this is a
Speaker 4: George Soros creation, right, Like this is understood George Soros
Speaker 4: was the one that was funding all of these things.
Speaker 4: This is why whenever you went to a.
Speaker 2: City or some kind of state, whether it's Portland or
Speaker 2: Seattle or San Francisco or wherever, you know, all of
Speaker 2: these riots were breaking out. They just so happened to
Speaker 2: be a humongous palette fucking bricks there. How convenient for
Speaker 2: the people that are going to be throwing them through
Speaker 2: windows and causing fires. Right, So if they don't exist,
Speaker 2: why is Jimmy Kimmel and all the other talking heads
Speaker 2: saying that it's just a myth.
Speaker 3: Let's see what they got to say about it.
Speaker 4: But this is an entirely imaginary organization. There is not
Speaker 4: in Antifa, Like I don't even know what Antifa is.
Speaker 4: Where is no group.
Speaker 6: It's not even like far right groups like the Proud
Speaker 6: Boys and Oathkeepers.
Speaker 4: Compared to right wing extremists, Antifa linked violence is rare
Speaker 4: and limited. It isn't an organization. It is a It
Speaker 4: is a in many ways mythology.
Speaker 6: It's not like the Proud Boys or the oath Keepers,
Speaker 6: you know, the defined terrorist organizations with leadership that let
Speaker 6: that you know, leads violence.
Speaker 4: It's not a highly organized movement. It's a moniker.
Speaker 7: It's it's it's it's not a unified group like the
Speaker 7: Proud Boys are things like Antifa are things that are
Speaker 7: thought up.
Speaker 4: It's all of this guys of going after Antifa, which
Speaker 4: is nothing. There's no organization called Antifa. Nobody's a number
Speaker 4: of Antifa because it doesn't exist. They are just claring
Speaker 4: into existence something that doesn't exist.
Speaker 8: There is no Antifa organization. So maybe that's good for
Speaker 8: social media, do it but it really has is non existent.
Speaker 9: They exist on the Internet and chat rooms and in
Speaker 9: four Chan and discord, in places like that where they
Speaker 9: run discussion boards, trade tactics, documents, things like that, but
Speaker 9: none of them are called Antifa.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, well I just wanted to share that because
Speaker 2: you can rest easy now, you can go to sleep now.
Speaker 2: I mean, all those things that were happening. You had
Speaker 2: what's his dick over in California News saying well, it's
Speaker 2: mostly peaceful protests as the building is burning behind him.
Speaker 2: That was an illusion, is what you were seeing. That
Speaker 2: was just fun background things that were going on, wasn't
Speaker 2: actually happening.
Speaker 4: That is mind blowing to hear them say these things,
Speaker 4: although it's also not shocking now that I have done
Speaker 4: a little bit of deeper diving into Antifa, because here's
Speaker 4: the deal. They want it to look like. It is
Speaker 4: a disorganized group of college aged kids out there just
Speaker 4: kind of throwing some bricks and riding a little bit,
Speaker 4: but no real centralized organization, no real money or funding
Speaker 4: going to it. There's nobody that's actually a shot collared,
Speaker 4: like really putting plan into action and getting this group
Speaker 4: over here and coordinating attacks and all this. They don't
Speaker 4: want it to look like that. They want it to
Speaker 4: look disorganized. What if I were to tell you that
Speaker 4: that is all a part of the plan. Every aspect
Speaker 4: of everything they do is a part of their plan.
Speaker 4: Not to mention, there are multiple Antifa members right now
Speaker 4: that are being brought in for Rico cases. Yes, the
Speaker 4: same laws that put the mafia under the prison is
Speaker 4: now bringing down Antifa. And then what if I told
Speaker 4: you that there was also a college professor known locally
Speaker 4: on his campus as doctor Antifa literally wrote the book,
Speaker 4: the Anti Fascist Handbook, the Antifa Handbook. He just fled
Speaker 4: the country because of the indictments that are about to
Speaker 4: come down on him and his family. There's multiple Antifa
Speaker 4: shot callers that are now fleeing the country because they thought, oh,
Speaker 4: it's just a freedom of speech thing. They can't touch us,
Speaker 4: They can't do anything about it. Until you find that
Speaker 4: Rico can come for anybody. And if there's an organized
Speaker 4: syndication of illegal activities, the same way the cartel's the
Speaker 4: same way the mafia. You name it. Oh, Rico's coming
Speaker 4: for that ass yo, Get ready, everybody. Antifa, first of all,
Speaker 4: is real, It is very very real. And it's not
Speaker 4: just funded by Soros, for the record, and it's not
Speaker 4: just funded by wealthy liberal benefactors or anything like this.
Speaker 4: There is a grassroots movement within it, there is a
Speaker 4: crowdsourcing movement within it, and there's merch sales that are
Speaker 4: actually insanely profitable, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
Speaker 4: But you might be thinking, Hey, the money that they're
Speaker 4: making from the book sales and the pins and all
Speaker 4: the flags and all these things, well, that's just going
Speaker 4: to who who do you think that that money is
Speaker 4: going to? Jonathan knowing nothing else where do you think
Speaker 4: that money is going to, let's say that you have
Speaker 4: flags and books and pens only we're not even talking
Speaker 4: about the donations sales from this. Where do you think
Speaker 4: that money is going?
Speaker 2: Well, surely it's going to people who have been affected
Speaker 2: by fascism.
Speaker 5: Okay, any examples come to mind?
Speaker 4: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't want to even give of any like examples.
Speaker 2: I would just say it's it's probably very reminiscent of
Speaker 2: what happened with Black Lives Matter. All that money that
Speaker 2: was donated, and you know, everybody thought that that money
Speaker 2: was gonna be infused back into you know, the the
Speaker 2: Black community of America, right, a lot of and it
Speaker 2: was actually, I mean surprisingly enough, it actually was, except
Speaker 2: for it was really only given to the person that
Speaker 2: was collecting all the money, and then she bought a
Speaker 2: couple of houses and a couple of mansions and the
Speaker 2: hills and so yeah, it definitely helped the black community,
Speaker 2: well one person of the black community.
Speaker 4: But you know, I digress, right, okay, and that's fair enough.
Speaker 4: But what if I told you that all of the
Speaker 4: money is actually going towards tactical gear, reimbursing people for
Speaker 4: travel expenses, teaching people how to make explosives and molotov
Speaker 4: cocktails and weapons, and then funding the creation of these
Speaker 4: things themselves.
Speaker 5: You would say that that is very terroristic, would you not?
Speaker 2: I would say that that's probably the very definition of
Speaker 2: what a forming terrorist group would be doing.
Speaker 5: Indeed, So buckle up, good cult members.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go ahead and share the screen and
Speaker 4: we are going to dive straight into the history of Antifa,
Speaker 4: how they got to where they are now, and why
Speaker 4: they are being completely blasted as a domestic terrorist organization,
Speaker 4: which they are. But for anybody who would like to
Speaker 4: see this rather than just hear about it, Jonathan, Where
Speaker 4: can they go?
Speaker 2: Come check out patroon dot com slash Cult of Conspiracy podcast.
Speaker 3: That link is down in the show notes below.
Speaker 2: For anybody wants to be able to support us and
Speaker 2: the best way possible, we have several different tiers over there.
Speaker 2: If you sign up for the third Eye all the
Speaker 2: way up and tier, you'll get access to all of
Speaker 2: the shows in advance. You'll be able to slide into
Speaker 2: our dms all the great things that Patreon can bring
Speaker 2: to you. But you'll also be able to join us
Speaker 2: every Tuesday night for the Cult Member Live show where
Speaker 2: we are. We always bring up like the whatever the
Speaker 2: Cult members want to talk about. Normally there's somebody that's
Speaker 2: writing in a chat. Maybe somebody wants to raise their
Speaker 2: hand and say, you know, whatever they want to say
Speaker 2: is on their mind. For us to be able to
Speaker 2: give our opinions and stuff like that, it's the best
Speaker 2: way to be able to become part of the conversation.
Speaker 2: If you want to have a voice, you're tired of
Speaker 2: just listening. You maybe you listen to an episode and
Speaker 2: you're like, man, they missed this one part, you know,
Speaker 2: because hey, we're just humans. We don't have some kind
Speaker 2: of you know, producer that is putting together notes or
Speaker 2: anything for us. We're just a couple of dudes being bros.
Speaker 2: If you want to be a dude who is also
Speaker 2: a bro who wants to join us every Tuesday night
Speaker 2: for the Cult Member Live show, go ahead and sign
Speaker 2: up for the Third Eye All the way Open. But
Speaker 2: but outside of that, All Tears have one thing that
Speaker 2: most people come over to Patreon for, and that is
Speaker 2: because it is completely.
Speaker 4: Commercial foo listening.
Speaker 2: I know those ads are fucking annoying, and maybe they're
Speaker 2: even raising their frequency on them.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 2: You know you can't watch a YouTube show, you can't
Speaker 2: listen to a podcast without commercial after commercial after commercial.
Speaker 4: You're tired of that.
Speaker 2: We have Patreon for as little five dollars a month,
Speaker 2: and I do want to say we have a promo
Speaker 2: going on right now to where you can literally sign
Speaker 2: up for an entire week if you want to binge
Speaker 2: all nine hundred plus episodes that we've done in the
Speaker 2: span of a week. I don't even know if there's
Speaker 2: enough time for that, but you can give it the
Speaker 2: old college try and come and check it out for
Speaker 2: a week entirely free. No strings attached or anything like that.
Speaker 2: But we also if if maybe by going through that
Speaker 2: that free week, you say, you know what, I want
Speaker 2: to sign up for the whole fucking year. We have
Speaker 2: a discount for that too. Just go to and sign
Speaker 2: up for the entire year. We have a three month
Speaker 2: off discount that is going on right now. So you
Speaker 2: get you pay for nine months, you get the other
Speaker 2: ones for free, and it's all it's it's awesome, dude.
Speaker 2: And so we're really just trying to build this cult
Speaker 2: up as large as we possibly can.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for the cult members who have
Speaker 3: already done so.
Speaker 4: Indeed. Indeed, all right, so we're just gonna read a
Speaker 4: little bit of the wiki here to give the background
Speaker 4: to it. All right, So, antifa is a left wing,
Speaker 4: anti fascist and anti racist pull it up movement. It's
Speaker 4: sometimes described as a highly decentralized array of autonomous groups
Speaker 4: in the United States. We're gonna show later how that's inaccurate.
Speaker 4: But continuing on, antifa political activism includes non violent methods
Speaker 4: of direct actions, such as poster and flyer campaigns. Again,
Speaker 4: we're gonna show how that's bullshit, mutual aid speeches, protest marches,
Speaker 4: and community organizing.
Speaker 5: Some who identify as antifa also use.
Speaker 4: Tactics involving digital accident activism, dosing harassment, violence, and property damage.
Speaker 5: There we go, they did give a little bit of
Speaker 5: the truth.
Speaker 4: Supporters of the movement aim to combat far right extremism,
Speaker 4: including neo Nazis and white supremaists. And I also want
Speaker 4: to make mention of this too. The mocking Bird that
Speaker 4: we just heard a moment ago, right, they're saying the
Speaker 4: prow Boys and the oath Keepers. Now I can't speak
Speaker 4: on behalf of the prow Boys. What I can speak
Speaker 4: on is behalf of the oath Keepers. They are not
Speaker 4: a far right extremist group. Neither is the three Percenters.
Speaker 4: They are a militia group. There's a legitimately there's over
Speaker 4: fifty militia groups in Texas right now. None of them
Speaker 4: are necessarily affiliated with any kind of political side, one
Speaker 4: way or another. Now that being said, that'd be like
Speaker 4: going to your average nightclub in Chicago and if you
Speaker 4: were to take a poll of everybody there who is
Speaker 4: a Democrat, who is a Republican, I have a weird
Speaker 4: feeling that you would see majority, vast majority Democrat.
Speaker 5: That's just throwing it out here.
Speaker 2: Would you say that the oath keepers are like constitutionalists?
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, very much so. But yeah, if you were
Speaker 4: to go to your average oath keeper meeting and ask
Speaker 4: who here is a Republican versus a Democrat, I'm sure
Speaker 4: that the vast majority, if not every member, would be
Speaker 4: a Republican. Okay, that's not a crazy thing to say.
Speaker 4: That being said, that doesn't make them an extremist group.
Speaker 4: And they are training as all militias are, which, for
Speaker 4: the record, the Constitution tells us to have a regulated
Speaker 4: and well funded, a well armed militia at that so,
Speaker 4: if anything, these people are doing their constitutional due diligence.
Speaker 4: I have no issue with the three percent. I got
Speaker 4: no issue with oath keepers. I don't know much about
Speaker 4: the Proud Boys, right because the whole thing in South
Speaker 4: Carolina where they went out there with their tiki torches,
Speaker 4: we would not be replaced. The whole thing was a syop,
Speaker 4: and that's been documented by every media outlet that's actually
Speaker 4: worth the fuck everybody. There was a military age male
Speaker 4: that all had a clean haircut. Does anybody notice that? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I thought it was weird.
Speaker 2: I thought it was weird looking at the Proud Boys,
Speaker 2: they seemed to me just I don't know too much
Speaker 2: about them, but just looking it seems like a three
Speaker 2: letter agency put them together. That's just that's exactly right,
Speaker 2: that's my interpretation of it.
Speaker 4: And they did that during a very critical time, during
Speaker 4: a very critical administration that was trying to divide Americans.
Speaker 4: They were trying to keep us in fighting as much
Speaker 4: as possible. And that was so. And I've said this before.
Speaker 4: How do you control an narrative by controlling both sides? Yep? Right?
Speaker 5: How do you get ahead of a story?
Speaker 4: Because the left is saying this and the right is
Speaker 4: saying this, but their source is the same fucking person. Right.
Speaker 4: I am of the belief that the Proud Boys and
Speaker 4: Black Lives Matter, which those were the two that were
Speaker 4: against each other during that timeframe, we're both being funded
Speaker 4: and guided by the same organization, the same type of
Speaker 4: three letter agency.
Speaker 5: If you're picking up what I'm putting.
Speaker 2: Down, think APAK. You know, they support both sides, They
Speaker 2: fund both sides. They don't give a shit who's actually
Speaker 2: in office, just hey make us look good.
Speaker 4: Basically. Yeah, So I'm okay, fair enough, So let's continue
Speaker 4: on here. Individuals involved with the movement subscribe to a
Speaker 4: range of left wing ideologies, intend to hold anti authoritarian,
Speaker 4: anti capitalists, and anti state views, which again you will
Speaker 4: find that on the far left, the majority of individuals
Speaker 4: involved are anarchists, commis, and socialists, which are disgusting, although
Speaker 4: some social democrats also participate in the antifa movement. The
Speaker 4: name antifa and the logo with the two flags representing
Speaker 4: anarchism and communism are derived from the German antifa movement.
Speaker 4: Dartmouth College historian Mark Bray put a pin in that one,
Speaker 4: because that's the dude that just fled the country.
Speaker 5: We'll talk about him more in death.
Speaker 4: Here in a bit, author of Antifa The Anti Fascist
Speaker 4: Handbook credits Anti Racist Action AR as the precursor of
Speaker 4: modern antifa groups in the United States. So all right,
Speaker 4: let's just jump down to the history of the organization,
Speaker 4: and it's going to give everybody a real good look
Speaker 4: at what's going on here. Antifa started in Germany, as
Speaker 4: a matter of fact, but it wasn't the antifa that
Speaker 4: we are thinking of today. It was the anti fascist Accion, okay.
Speaker 4: And there's a it was like an a DA, which
Speaker 4: was the anti fascists of Germany Action Deutschland Germany. That's
Speaker 4: what the d's for. But anyway, so, when Italian dictator
Speaker 4: Benito Mussolini consolidated power under his National Fascist Party in
Speaker 4: the mid nineteen twenties, an oppositional anti fascist movement surface,
Speaker 4: both in Italy and countries such as the United States. Yes,
Speaker 4: that's true. Antifa has had at least some sort of
Speaker 4: representation in America since the nineteen twenties.
Speaker 5: This is very factually true.
Speaker 4: Many anti fascist leaders in the United States were anarchists, socialists,
Speaker 4: and syndicusts, basically immigrants from Italy with experience in labor
Speaker 4: organizing and militancy.
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting, How could you be for socialism?
Speaker 2: You see that in a positive light, but then you
Speaker 2: see fascism in such a negative light. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're different, don't get me wrong, Like, they absolutely are.
Speaker 2: You talking about authoritarianism versus like a social group collectively
Speaker 2: working together. But if you look at every single socialist
Speaker 2: group that has ever gone on even to current day,
Speaker 2: there's always a fascist leader of every socialist group.
Speaker 3: Am I mistaken by looking at that?
Speaker 5: No, you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 4: That's the only way that communism andism work is that
Speaker 4: they have a fascist at the tippy top. But and
Speaker 4: this is the part that fucking kills me and I still, brother,
Speaker 4: I don't understand this. The achronism of Nazi the zon
Speaker 4: that stood for socialist. The Nazi movement was a socialist movement.
Speaker 4: But somehow these people like completely disassociate Nazism from socialism,
Speaker 4: even though without socialism you could not have had the
Speaker 4: Nazi Party. And like, okay, sure that makes sense to somebody.
Speaker 3: Let's just get lest how about we get rid of
Speaker 3: the isms. I don't know, that's just a me looking
Speaker 3: at it.
Speaker 2: But like anytime you attach an ism to something, it's
Speaker 2: usually like obviously it's like group think. There's always some
Speaker 2: kind of group leader, and that group leader has the
Speaker 2: best ideology to you know, move forward their socialist group.
Speaker 2: So there always has to be a leader. Unfortunately, whatever
Speaker 2: it comes to humanity, we will always look up to authority.
Speaker 2: That's just the way that we're programmed. Look at the military,
Speaker 2: look at even even in capital like capitalist countries, we
Speaker 2: have president right like, there's there's prime ministers, and there's
Speaker 2: leaders of every group. There has to be a leader
Speaker 2: because the majority of people, and people don't want to
Speaker 2: hear this majority of people are followers, and you can
Speaker 2: try and say there's no leader, there's you know that
Speaker 2: we're we're just one big group, and that's actually what
Speaker 2: we had try we try and say over here, like, look,
Speaker 2: we're not cult leaders by any means.
Speaker 4: Yes, we're kind of out in front.
Speaker 2: We're the ones that are kind of documenting the stories
Speaker 2: and everything like that, but we're not pushing anybody to
Speaker 2: believe what we believe. We don't even agree on what
Speaker 2: we what we talk about. Me and Jacob, I'll put
Speaker 2: so I'll.
Speaker 4: Put it like this. You remember the storm Area fifty
Speaker 4: one thing that went all over Facebook and Instagram a
Speaker 4: couple of years back, clapping cheeks baby, Okay, So that
Speaker 4: was they had no hierarchy, they had no leadership with this.
Speaker 5: It was meant to be an online joke.
Speaker 4: Right. There was over half a million people that were
Speaker 4: up part of that that we're all saying they were
Speaker 4: gonna show up to Area fifty one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: there was like two hundred that actually showed up. Right.
Speaker 4: That's what happens when you have a quote unquote movement
Speaker 4: with no hierarchy, with no leadership, there's nobody to actually
Speaker 4: push people and make arrangements and do the behind the
Speaker 4: scenes work to make an actual initiative take root. Now, granted,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that that's something that should have taken root.
Speaker 4: That was an internet joke that got taken too far,
Speaker 4: and I'm fully aware of that. But my point is
Speaker 4: to show Antifa as saying there's no hierarchy, there's no leadership.
Speaker 4: It's these little small cells of people, and it's not
Speaker 4: like they have any kind of real collaboration.
Speaker 5: That's completely bullshit.
Speaker 4: Otherwise you wouldn't have this many people showing up to
Speaker 4: every protest armed, even if not armed with weapons, armed
Speaker 4: with the flags, the banners. How did they afford to
Speaker 4: make these moves happen. Most of these people don't have jobs,
Speaker 4: so you have to have somebody coordinating these things to
Speaker 4: make it happen, right, So regardless, you have to have that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 2: As as often as we've said, I've never been one
Speaker 2: to pull out my dick and think harambe, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, I've never actually done that. I've
Speaker 2: never thought it. I've never poured one out aka n
Speaker 2: zipparing my pants for harambe right, it's an internet fucking joke.
Speaker 2: And so most of these, most of these organizations that's
Speaker 2: not even an organization, like we're we're just making fun
Speaker 2: internet memes here.
Speaker 3: But like most of them.
Speaker 2: You need some kind of leader in order for the
Speaker 2: movement to actually have some kind of traction, because it's
Speaker 2: like you can't have too many chiefs, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, but also need.
Speaker 4: To have a chief.
Speaker 2: But you do need to have a chief otherwise everybody's
Speaker 2: just looking around, what do you think we should do?
Speaker 3: What do you think we should do?
Speaker 10: Now?
Speaker 2: I don't know, And then somebody gets, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of brave and they start making rules and then the
Speaker 2: whole group that you know, disintegrates because there isn't a
Speaker 2: specific leader. And that's unfortunately, that's just how humanity is.
Speaker 2: We We are a group of followers.
Speaker 5: We run in packs, and dude, there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 5: being a follower.
Speaker 4: And for the record, I don't mean a follower of
Speaker 4: whatever seems to be training at this moment. Okay, have
Speaker 4: independent free thought for yourself, for sure. But what I'm
Speaker 4: saying is there's a saying in the military, lead follow
Speaker 4: or get the fuck out of the way. Okay, that's
Speaker 4: the matter of it. If you want to take charge
Speaker 4: and lead, fucking get after it. If not, follow the
Speaker 4: leader and make some things happen, get after it. If
Speaker 4: you're not willing to do either, get the fuck out
Speaker 4: of the way because you're in the way of progress here.
Speaker 4: That's and that's something that could be used for any
Speaker 4: kind of organization, any kind of company, any job site.
Speaker 4: You're a welder, you're a pipe welder, okay, either a
Speaker 4: take charge and start making moves happen, and perhaps become
Speaker 4: the foreman of your crew or the lead guy and
Speaker 4: make this job happen. B do as you're told from
Speaker 4: your lead guy and make this weld happen.
Speaker 5: Or see.
Speaker 4: If you're not gonna do either of those, get the
Speaker 4: fuck off my job site. I have no time for
Speaker 4: you to just sit here and stick your thumb up
Speaker 4: your ass like we got shit to do.
Speaker 2: There's roles that need to be played. And what they're
Speaker 2: saying is is that, well, Antifa can be a real
Speaker 2: thing because there are no leaders. But I think that
Speaker 2: that's exactly what they would want you to believe.
Speaker 4: They do. They want you to believe that it is
Speaker 4: a decentralized amalgamation of random Internet people that just get
Speaker 4: on chat rooms and like, hey, let's all meet up here. Okay, gang,
Speaker 4: I'll see you there. That is not how it goes.
Speaker 4: That is the very entry level, that's their recruiting grounds.
Speaker 4: That is not how you get to the hierarchy of
Speaker 4: the pyramid. That is Antifa. We're gonna break it all down.
Speaker 4: Let's get back to it here. So ideologically, Antifa in
Speaker 4: the United States sees itself as the successor to anti
Speaker 4: Nazi activists in the nineteen thirties. European activist groups that
Speaker 4: originally organized to oppose World War Two era fascist dictatorships
Speaker 4: re emerged in the nineteen seventies and eighties to oppose
Speaker 4: white supremacy and skinheads, eventually spreading to the United States. Now,
Speaker 4: not gonna take too much time to speak on this one,
Speaker 4: but I should also mention skinheads started out as a
Speaker 4: very open group. It was like the reggae group they
Speaker 4: are very popular with, like the same room boy thing
Speaker 4: from Jamaican reggae music. Skinheads back in the day were
Speaker 4: anti fascists, were anti authoritarian, were anti racism, all these things.
Speaker 4: The skinhead look got taken and then got blasted with
Speaker 4: the neo Nazis and the white supremacists and all these
Speaker 4: things into the nineties, late eighties, early nineties. But that's
Speaker 4: not what they originally were founded to be about. It
Speaker 4: was more like a middle finger to authority, not a
Speaker 4: middle finger to minorities.
Speaker 2: That just and what you'll see just over the course
Speaker 2: of these these smaller organizations that blossom into what we
Speaker 2: would know as terrorist organizations is that there seems to
Speaker 2: be like there seems to be like an infusion of
Speaker 2: CIA tactic. And the reason I say that is is
Speaker 2: that if you look back to whenever the CIA was
Speaker 2: doing all of the mk ultra things, they looked for
Speaker 2: suggestible people, right, Like that's that's like whenever a stage
Speaker 2: hypnotist is up on stage, what they do is and
Speaker 2: this is and I can tell you this because I
Speaker 2: was addicted to looking at all that I'm a hypnotist myself, right,
Speaker 2: But like what they would do is they get up
Speaker 2: on stage and they would say, you know, hey, picture
Speaker 2: a pink elephant. And they would say who who in
Speaker 2: the crowd was able to pick was able to see
Speaker 2: a pink elephant? And you know, half the crowd would
Speaker 2: raise their hand. All right, Well, I know that this
Speaker 2: person is more suggestible, So I'm gonna pull them up
Speaker 2: on stage because if I tell them three two one sleep,
Speaker 2: They're going to take it. They're going to believe it
Speaker 2: because they're already suggestible, right like. And I think that
Speaker 2: what is going on with these quote unquote groups, grassroots groups,
Speaker 2: is that they're already suggestible. They already have a plan
Speaker 2: in mind, Like, they're already on that track. All we
Speaker 2: gotta do is just corral them a little bit. We
Speaker 2: got to point them in the right direction, which is
Speaker 2: why I think that most of the grassroots groups, they
Speaker 2: start out, you know, maybe with a good idea, good
Speaker 2: good ideology what they stand for and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But then you insert a CIA operative or you insert
Speaker 2: a an agent of chaos if you will, and you
Speaker 2: turn the entire group into agents of chaos. Which, by
Speaker 2: the way, I was doing a little bit of research
Speaker 2: on your boy, fucking George Zin, which we're not going
Speaker 2: to talk about in this episode. Dude, you want to
Speaker 2: talk about this was an mk ultra like, this is
Speaker 2: the perfect he was the perfect individual to uh to
Speaker 2: to raise his hand and say I was the one
Speaker 2: that shock Charlie Kirk. I don't believe that that was
Speaker 2: an accident. I don't believe that it was, you know,
Speaker 2: just by circumstance. This guy was literally everywhere. He was
Speaker 2: in so many other groups. Dude, he was there for
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. He was there for uh, what was
Speaker 2: it one of the bombings over in the West. I
Speaker 2: can't remember. One of the marathon, the Salt Lake City bombings,
Speaker 2: Boston bombing, wasn't it, Well, it was the Salt Lake
Speaker 2: City marathon. He suggested a threat. We're not going to
Speaker 2: get too much into it. Well, what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: is that you find these these people with these ideologies
Speaker 2: that are already showing up at events and special places
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and then you just turn them
Speaker 2: in the right direction and there you go. And in
Speaker 2: that way, if you have those people, they're doing your
Speaker 2: work for you and they can't trace it back to you.
Speaker 2: This is like, this is the same thing anybody's ever
Speaker 2: seen The Dark Knight with Batman, right like the Joker,
Speaker 2: he had all of his agents of chaos, right like,
Speaker 2: those are the ones that were, oh yeah, if we
Speaker 2: if we carry out this bank heist, I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: ten percent. I'm gonna get twenty percent and right. But meanwhile,
Speaker 2: they were all just used as fucking Patsy's the joker
Speaker 2: made his way off with all the money in the
Speaker 2: in the end, right, And I think that that's what
Speaker 2: they do. They take suggestible people, they point them in
Speaker 2: the right direction and bam, now we are fucking.
Speaker 3: Like orchestrators.
Speaker 4: Yeah, basically, And that's the thing. I believe that all
Speaker 4: of them do have some sort of three letter agency
Speaker 4: representation in them. And we're gonna talk about that as
Speaker 4: a matter of fact, because there was an infiltration that
Speaker 4: was done and that's what led to a lot of
Speaker 4: this Rico conversation happening.
Speaker 5: But we'll get to it all in kind.
Speaker 4: But yeah, as far as your boy Zen or Zim
Speaker 4: or where the fuck his name is complete, Cias said,
Speaker 4: not even a joke, not a theory. This is understood
Speaker 4: and confirmed, which is why he raised his hands and said, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm the guy, wasn't He was told to do that
Speaker 4: the same way. Hell Tyler Robinson, that kid was not
Speaker 4: the shooter the gun that was shown the thirty six
Speaker 4: in the box. It's understood now that that was a
Speaker 4: stock photo from five years prior that had nothing to
Speaker 4: do with him. That wasn't even his gun or his
Speaker 4: grandfather's gun or any of that shit. He I guarantee
Speaker 4: was told that day, Hey kid, I need you to
Speaker 4: go on top of this roof and I'm gonna vemo
Speaker 4: you two thousand dollars. He heard the shot rang out
Speaker 4: and he fucking jumped down and said, I gotta get
Speaker 4: the fuck out of here. But it doesn't matter. He's
Speaker 4: on the hook now.
Speaker 3: Brother.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, like you want to talk about
Speaker 2: how they writ it in movies before they carry it
Speaker 2: out in action. And we're gonna do a whole show
Speaker 2: on this tomorrow. I've already got it planned. We're gonna
Speaker 2: do a show on fucking the movie called Snake Eyes.
Speaker 3: Have you seen this.
Speaker 4: I've heard of it. It's Nicholas Cage. It's called Snake Eyes. Dude,
Speaker 4: there is so it is.
Speaker 2: It is mind blowing how many synchronicities there are with
Speaker 2: that movie and everything that transpired with Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3: Like your fucking your jaw is gonna drop to the floor.
Speaker 4: I've seen a few things online about how that movie
Speaker 4: kind of was predicted programming for this, But yeah, I
Speaker 4: can't even know it.
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't kinda like this movie was. This was
Speaker 2: like the ritual before the event like this is. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was so spot on it's not even funny.
Speaker 4: And I gotta tell you, man, as of this moment,
Speaker 4: especially with the research I've done today, I'm of the
Speaker 4: belief that Antifa had way more of a hand than
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk's assassination than anybody else, really than anybody else.
Speaker 4: And I know everybody's gonna get mad at me for saying, oh,
Speaker 4: it's not it is real. Listen, listen, listen. I'm not
Speaker 4: saying that Charlie didn't have his feelings toward it. I
Speaker 4: get it. Him and net Yahoo had a little bit
Speaker 4: of some misunderstandings and some disagreements. And he did say
Speaker 4: that all these Jewish donors are are one hundred percent
Speaker 4: living up to the stereotypes, and he's not going to
Speaker 4: be bullied. These things happened. I'm not gonna deny that.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is that when you look at the
Speaker 4: entire picture of it, Israel didn't There's more people that
Speaker 4: they would take out. They would take out candas someone's before,
Speaker 4: they would take out Charlie kirk right. There's tons of
Speaker 4: very big names that speak anti Israel, not even like
Speaker 4: covertly and under wraps out loud and proud anti Israel sentiments,
Speaker 4: and a lot millions of people listen to them. Charlie
Speaker 4: didn't do that. He said a few things, don't get
Speaker 4: me wrong, But it's not like he was leading the
Speaker 4: charge of an anti Israel movement by any means.
Speaker 2: From what I understand, though, Candace was never funded by
Speaker 2: any Israel groups where Charlie originally was. That's the difference.
Speaker 4: But my point is, if they were trying to take
Speaker 4: somebody out to silence the anti Israel conversation, Charlie was
Speaker 4: low on the list.
Speaker 5: There's more people that get funding.
Speaker 4: And yeah, you want to say it comes from this person,
Speaker 4: this person, through dude, through a group of shell corporations.
Speaker 4: I'm sure Candace has taken some sort of Israeli dollar.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is is that I'm not even
Speaker 2: saying that he was the biggest name you can take
Speaker 2: out like I'm not even suggesting that.
Speaker 3: But what I am saying.
Speaker 2: Is is that I do believe it was all part
Speaker 2: of a grand ritual and this and that's what we're
Speaker 2: gonna get to with Snake Eyes tomorrow. Like it was
Speaker 2: all there was There was no there There was no
Speaker 2: movie talking about how a character in the future named
Speaker 2: Candace would be taken out by a sniper. There was
Speaker 2: one for Charlie Kirk. Okay, So that's kind of the
Speaker 2: difference of what I'm trying to make and so.
Speaker 4: I'm excited to learn more about that tomorrow. For sure.
Speaker 4: I've seen some things about Snake Eyes. Haven't done a
Speaker 4: deep dive. I'm pumped. Oh dude, yeah, it's crazy. But anyway,
Speaker 4: let's get back to antief over here, right right, right,
Speaker 4: So when it comes to the violence side of it,
Speaker 4: I am currently and this is very subject to change.
Speaker 4: I am currently of the belief that Antifa had way
Speaker 4: more hands in the pot of taking out Charlie than not.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear about it. Yeah, convince me otherwise.
Speaker 2: I'm open to I'm open to being I'm suggestible, you know,
Speaker 2: I just say that as they you hear that's cia.
Speaker 3: I'm suggestible.
Speaker 4: There you go, there you go. All right, So look
Speaker 4: we look at the original flag here, the original logo,
Speaker 4: that's two red flags. Antifa has always and still is
Speaker 4: rooted in communism and socialism. Like you cannot separate the
Speaker 4: two from each other. Their new flag is a red
Speaker 4: and black. The black is supposed to represent anarchy and
Speaker 4: the red is supposed to represent Marxism. Either way you
Speaker 4: slice it, you cannot separate this group from far communist extremists,
Speaker 4: which once again disgusting, absolutely disgusting, and just not again
Speaker 4: not spending too much time on this, but y'all do
Speaker 4: the math on this. Communism is responsible for somewhere around
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty million deaths since their inception in
Speaker 4: the mid eighteen hundreds. And I know a lot of
Speaker 4: people will say, well, Christianity's killed a bunch of people. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: Christianity's killed hundreds of millions. Yes, And I did my
Speaker 4: math on this. The fact of the matter is that
Speaker 4: you are eleven times more likely to be killed because
Speaker 4: communism exists than you are to be killed by Christianity.
Speaker 4: On the fucking warpath Let that one marinate for as
Speaker 4: long as you need, which is saying a lot.
Speaker 2: I watched three documentaries on the Cathars last night, and
Speaker 2: who boy, they went on a fucking whole chaotic rampage
Speaker 2: with them.
Speaker 4: They did, and I'm not gonna try to make it
Speaker 4: seem like that's okay, Right, there has been some people
Speaker 4: that have done some horrible shit in the name of Christianity. Fuck.
Speaker 4: The Taiping Rebellion, as a matter of fact in China
Speaker 4: killed somewhere between forty and sixty million people, and the
Speaker 4: leader of it said that he was Jesus's brother in
Speaker 4: the fucking eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 11: Yea.
Speaker 4: Like, Now, personally, I don't attribute that to Christianity, but
Speaker 4: for the sake of the argument about how deadly quote
Speaker 4: unquote Christianity is, I added that number to the overall
Speaker 4: people that have been killed. So since Christians existed, realistically
Speaker 4: we could say three point fifty ad Right, the first
Speaker 4: couple hundred years they were kind of not doing much
Speaker 4: as far as like warpath things were going three fifty
Speaker 4: eight to now we're talking seventeen hundred years give or take,
Speaker 4: as opposed to communism, give or take, not even two
Speaker 4: hundred years. One hundred and seventy five years, give or take,
Speaker 4: and you are eleven times more likely to be killed
Speaker 4: from Communism than you are from Christianity. When they are
Speaker 4: like on some religious zelit warpath.
Speaker 2: Shit right right, and and that three point fifty number
Speaker 2: comes from like all the different councils that were going
Speaker 2: on that we're trying to, you know, create the book, right,
Speaker 2: the Bible, and dude, and I was man.
Speaker 4: Well, for the first couple hundred years Christians were being murdered,
Speaker 4: Like keep that in mind, it was illegal to be
Speaker 4: a Christian in Rome. Then it became the religion of Rome.
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, like from that point onward, Dude,
Speaker 2: what's crazy. And we're not going to spend too much
Speaker 2: time talking about it, but just as far as the
Speaker 2: Cathars go, dude, did you know that there were nineteen
Speaker 2: Catholic priest or not priests, nineteen Catholic popes that carried
Speaker 2: out the ideology that we needed to take out all
Speaker 2: the Cathars, Like you're talking about popes that were going
Speaker 2: around and literally what they say is a pope is
Speaker 2: like I don't know, the the closest human being that
Speaker 2: the one could be to God, right, like that the
Speaker 2: Catholic believe, and and yet all of them were saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: we got to take out all the Cathars.
Speaker 3: Nineteen consecutive popes believe.
Speaker 4: That running around. Dude, Gotta gotta put a stop to
Speaker 4: all that shit.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, if you look at the Cathars, dude, they were
Speaker 2: pretty fucking peaceful people like they they were not about
Speaker 2: that smoke.
Speaker 4: No, and also not again, we're not spending so much
Speaker 4: time on this, but Saint Patrick, the whole argument about
Speaker 4: him casting snakes into the sea and the snakes are
Speaker 4: the Druids and he led some sort of a bloodlust campaign,
Speaker 4: actually not true. Historically speaking, Saint Patrick was extremely kind
Speaker 4: to the Pagans that lived on Ireland's coast. Just so
Speaker 4: we're clear here. The whole thing about him casting the
Speaker 4: snakes out, like, I understand that that's a myth. There's
Speaker 4: never been snakes that have been indigenous to Ireland, so
Speaker 4: that's a metaphor for something. He did not kill a
Speaker 4: bunch of druids, nor did he lead a charge to
Speaker 4: kill pagans. As a matter of fact, he was very
Speaker 4: inclusive and kind to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can't say anything about Saint Patrick personally,
Speaker 2: but as far as the Druids being absolutely taken out,
Speaker 2: that was one hundred percent of Catholic thing. Like, I
Speaker 2: don't think there's any like disagreeing with that. Otherwise, where
Speaker 2: did they go? Where's all their books? Where's all the
Speaker 2: where's all their teachings? How is it that? Literally the
Speaker 2: original Irish language, they've had to recreate their language. I
Speaker 2: don't ten, fifteen, twenty different times, because that's how that's
Speaker 2: how often they were being annihilated.
Speaker 4: The Irish language wasn't tied to Druidism. That was the
Speaker 4: Gaelic religion, Gaelic language. But to that point, the Gauls
Speaker 4: were where Druidism was first ever written about. In ancient Rome,
Speaker 4: as a matter of fact, went out, I'm a g
Speaker 4: I'm talking genocidal right ancient Rome before it was Roman Catholic,
Speaker 4: when it was still Roman Paganism was the day and age.
Speaker 4: They led a genocidal rampage into the north of Europe
Speaker 4: to kill every single Druid on the continent.
Speaker 5: Because Christianity was even in the conversation.
Speaker 2: Well, that's because of their Lord and save your soul Invictus, sir,
Speaker 2: I mean sol Invictus was leading them to battle baby.
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, with him and Jupiter and all that.
Speaker 4: But my point is, though people killing each other for
Speaker 4: religious differences predates Christianity or the Abrahamic religions at by
Speaker 4: a long shot, which is kind of counterintuitive, wouldn't you think,
Speaker 4: What do you mean, like, why would a religious community
Speaker 4: go and slaughter millions of people in the name of
Speaker 4: love and peace? Wait, I'm talking about the Romans that
Speaker 4: were doing this. Their religion was not based in love
Speaker 4: and peace. Their religion was based off of Jupiter not
Speaker 4: keeping his dick in his pants.
Speaker 2: Right, But it's the idea of a savior aspect to
Speaker 2: where if you follow that savior, then you know, then
Speaker 2: you're you're essentially like a branch of the divine answer.
Speaker 4: Rome didn't have a savior thing like that. Their religion
Speaker 4: basically everybody ended up in the underworld, regardless of how
Speaker 4: you lived your life.
Speaker 5: I guess about leaving a legacy.
Speaker 2: I'm more, I can't speak too much on solen Victis
Speaker 2: and what they believed as far as that because sauln
Speaker 2: Victis was like a battle god basically.
Speaker 4: Right, but like the sun god. But when a sun
Speaker 4: battle god like, it was supposed to be a god
Speaker 4: that was going to help them into battle. Mars was
Speaker 4: their god of war. Not that.
Speaker 2: No, if I'm telling you, you look up solen Victis.
Speaker 2: It was literally a god that was going to help
Speaker 2: them on the battlefield.
Speaker 4: Right, But I mean they had a god of war.
Speaker 4: They had a solen Victis thing too. I'm not denying
Speaker 4: that whatsoever, But that wasn't like their savior by any means.
Speaker 4: The pagan religions don't have a savior figure like that.
Speaker 2: Forget the pagan stuff. What I'm saying is is that
Speaker 2: you know, you have what eventually became known as the
Speaker 2: Roman Catholics, right, And how is it possible that you're
Speaker 2: trying to preach you know, you have a savior, and
Speaker 2: we have this book and you follow all the rules,
Speaker 2: but meanwhile you go and slaughter millions of Cathars, right,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know exactly the numbers. It was all
Speaker 2: of them though, and well all of them except where
Speaker 2: allegedly four, So I don't know. That's kind of a
Speaker 2: weird story, but but yeah, it's It's just it seems
Speaker 2: counterintuitive where you're saying that you're going to be saved,
Speaker 2: we have a savior, and then you go out on
Speaker 2: a battlefield and kill millions of It's it's opposite, is
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4: Look at the religion of Islam, same shit. They claim
Speaker 4: to be a religion of peace, but the majority of
Speaker 4: their book is talking about conversion at sword point and warmongering.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any fucking sense.
Speaker 4: People. People misused and misquote portions of books to justify
Speaker 4: their means, right, and that's been a thing since the
Speaker 4: beginning of time.
Speaker 3: The same thing. Just want to throw that out there.
Speaker 4: Sure, every religion has done that at some point in time. Fuck,
Speaker 4: Buddhist monks just beheaded a bunch of Muslims in China.
Speaker 3: There's different sits of Buddhist of Buddhist monks though, but.
Speaker 4: That's my pupa Buddhism, right. They misquoted some of Buddhists
Speaker 4: teachings to justify beheading a bunch of innocent people.
Speaker 5: Every religion does this.
Speaker 3: Right, It's silly. It's it's like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Whenever I see something like that, I'm like, okay, so
Speaker 2: the wrong God is leading you, Like, that's.
Speaker 4: What I say. With the Vedics, the Vedics have a
Speaker 4: caste system where if you're a born as an untouchable
Speaker 4: and you touch somebody of a higher class, they can
Speaker 4: chop off your fucking arm, dude. That's the way for forever.
Speaker 2: All of them are that way, Which is what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to say. It's like you would think, you know,
Speaker 2: like look at the fruits. Like this is how I
Speaker 2: damn it, boys, say it again.
Speaker 4: This is how I This is how I judge religious
Speaker 4: sects and religious groups and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Look at the fucking fruit of the followers.
Speaker 4: Jonathan, for the love of fuck. Yes, as I always say,
Speaker 4: you test the spirit, but you also have to test
Speaker 4: the fruit because somebody could be the greatest dude ever
Speaker 4: just they're super pious in their religion, their beliefs, the
Speaker 4: books or whatever. But if they're not doing anything with it,
Speaker 4: and they're not actually producing any fruit with that goodness,
Speaker 4: then it's fucking dead. This is why in the Bible
Speaker 4: that says faith without works is dead. You're not gonna
Speaker 4: be saved by your works. You're gonna be saved by
Speaker 4: your faith. But if you're not doing anything with that
Speaker 4: shit to grow the world into a better way than
Speaker 4: what the fuck did you do with this gift? Shout
Speaker 4: out to Jesus and for all the people that think
Speaker 4: I hate Jesus, like stop. I look at it.
Speaker 2: I look at it all from a very different angle. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you if you see the fruits
Speaker 2: of your religion that is going and killing and slaughtering,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's probably not the fucking answer.
Speaker 3: That's where I like to go.
Speaker 2: Now, a leader, you know, such as Jesus, such as
Speaker 2: the original you know, Buddha or Gandhi, fucking certain gurus
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Sure, like I'm I'm all, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm here for listening to what they gotta say.
Speaker 4: But as soon as people fucking group up with a
Speaker 4: religious ideology, man, do they get retarded. It was the
Speaker 4: same with the Gnostics and the Catholic right. So like
Speaker 4: their movement was and if you look at it for
Speaker 4: the philosophical thing that they're trying to apply to their life, Okay,
Speaker 4: there's some wisdom that you can gain from these things,
Speaker 4: for sure. But they hated sex, they hated children. They
Speaker 4: literally would leave their children on the side of hills
Speaker 4: to die, and a lot of them were taken in
Speaker 4: by the early Christian Church. That was something that was
Speaker 4: done a good portion of the place, including the Cathars
Speaker 4: in France. They were horrible to their own people. So
Speaker 4: that's another reason why the Catholic Church said, oh, well
Speaker 4: fuck it. If you're gonna kill a bunch of your
Speaker 4: own kids, we'll just kill all of you. And again
Speaker 4: i'm not saying that that's not why. It was because
Speaker 4: they were heretics and they were preaching this type of Yeah,
Speaker 4: they were doing this heretics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what they said.
Speaker 4: They were preaching to leave babies on the side of hills.
Speaker 4: That happened in France.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not even trying to say that the Cathars
Speaker 2: were the good guys, like I'm just saying it was
Speaker 2: just a different group who followed Jesus in a very
Speaker 2: gnostic kind of way, and the Catholic Church didn't like that.
Speaker 2: They didn't want that message being preached because the Cathars
Speaker 2: were building a huge.
Speaker 3: Following the Catholics.
Speaker 2: If you go back and look at it, the Catholics
Speaker 2: were losing numbers to the Cathars, which is.
Speaker 4: Losing They were losing numbers to different types of Protestantism,
Speaker 4: and the Cathars saw themselves as a Protestant group, not
Speaker 4: a heretical group. But then again, the Lutherans saw themselves
Speaker 4: as another Christian sect not a heretical group. So did
Speaker 4: the Anglicans, so did every every spinoff of what we
Speaker 4: would now call Protestants didn't see themselves as heretics, but
Speaker 4: the Catholic churchard did. The Cathars were extremely egregious in
Speaker 4: some of the things that they were preaching. It wasn't
Speaker 4: just heretical teachings against Jesus. Their practices were fucked. But
Speaker 4: even still, that doesn't justify genociding close to a million people.
Speaker 4: I think that that's not the way.
Speaker 3: No, not even a little bit.
Speaker 2: But anyway, look, I'm not trying. We're not trying to
Speaker 2: go down that rabbit hole. Let's stick to antifa here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do this all right. Continuing on, it says
Speaker 4: modern antifa can be traced uh to the opposition to
Speaker 4: the infiltration of British punk scene by white power skinheads
Speaker 4: in the nineteen seven eighties and the emergence of neo
Speaker 4: Nazism in Germany. Following the fall of the Berlin Wall
Speaker 4: in Germany, young leftists, including anarchists and punk fans, renewed
Speaker 4: the practice of street level anti fascism.
Speaker 5: Peter Beinhardt writes.
Speaker 4: In the late eighties, left wing punk fans in the
Speaker 4: United States began following suit, though they initially called their
Speaker 4: group's Anti Racist Action AR in theory the Americans would
Speaker 4: be more familiar with fighting racism than they would be
Speaker 4: against fighting fascism, which is very true, right. So the
Speaker 4: AR for anybody who doesn't know, this was their logo.
Speaker 4: It's a white ship holding a red slingshot. And essentially
Speaker 4: this is them saying like, yes, we are a violent group.
Speaker 4: We're not here waving a flag for a protest, We're
Speaker 4: here to do harm to you. That was their entire
Speaker 4: motive from the word go.
Speaker 2: How interesting is it too that she's wearing some kind
Speaker 2: of facial cover, which if you look at a lot
Speaker 2: of these protests, people are going out there wearing like
Speaker 2: COVID masks.
Speaker 3: That's that is just like that's a cover.
Speaker 2: Like they're not doing it to protect you from getting
Speaker 2: sick from COVID, they're doing it so their face can't
Speaker 2: be recognized. And it's interesting how this group was formed
Speaker 2: in eighty nine wearing the face cover like that, and
Speaker 2: it's still the same thing that's being carried out today
Speaker 2: in a lot of these ANTIFA protests.
Speaker 4: So continuing with that, the writer of the Antifa Handbook
Speaker 4: says that Antifa of today is the direct descendant of
Speaker 4: the ARA reading on here, it says, is a network
Speaker 4: of militant far left political cells in the United States
Speaker 4: and Canada. The AARA network originated in the late eighteen
Speaker 4: or nineteen eighties to engage in direct action, including political
Speaker 4: violence and docsing against their rival political organizations on the
Speaker 4: hard right, mainly violent groups such as neo Nazi skinheads,
Speaker 4: to dissuade them from further involvement in political activities. So
Speaker 4: they were founded to do violence. You cannot separate that
Speaker 4: from anything else. So whenever you say that Antifa, who
Speaker 4: quote unquote doesn't exist and there's nonviolent, understand that they're
Speaker 4: for the way that this movement is shaped out right
Speaker 4: now does violence. That's what they were founded upon. So
Speaker 4: again you can't separate it from it. But anyway, let's continue,
Speaker 4: oh it says. ARA activists toured with popular punk rock
Speaker 4: and skin bands, skinhead bands in order to prevent klansmen,
Speaker 4: neo Nazis, and assorted white supremacists from recruiting. Their motto
Speaker 4: was we go where they go, by which they meant
Speaker 4: that they would confront far right activists in concerts and
Speaker 4: actively remove their materials from public places. In two thousand
Speaker 4: and two, the AAR disrupted a speech in Pennsylvania by
Speaker 4: Matthew Hale, the head of the white supremacist group World
Speaker 4: Church of the Creator, resulting in a fight in twenty
Speaker 4: five arrests. In two thousand and seven, Rose City Antifa,
Speaker 4: likely the first group to utilize the name Antifa, was
Speaker 4: formed in Portland, Oregon. Yes, I know, to the chagrin
Speaker 4: of everybody, right, nobody saw that one coming. Other Antifa
Speaker 4: groups in the United States have other genealogies. In Minneapolis, Minnesota,
Speaker 4: a group called the Ball was formed in nineteen eighty
Speaker 4: seven with the intent to fight neo Nazi groups directly.
Speaker 4: And again, the Baldies, if you want to look at them,
Speaker 4: they are the descendants of the original Skinheads, which are
Speaker 4: not the neo Nazi skin heads. Those were the original
Speaker 4: shaving your head, anti athornton, anti fascists, all these things,
Speaker 4: and then they got transformed into the Baldies when neo
Speaker 4: Nazis took over the Skinhead group. But moving on, in
Speaker 4: twenty thirteen, the most radical quote unquote chapters of RA
Speaker 4: formed the Torch Antifa network, which has chapters throughout the
Speaker 4: United States. Other Antifa groups are part of different associations,
Speaker 4: such as the New York City Antifa operate independently. So
Speaker 4: all right, that's a little bit of the background to antifa.
Speaker 4: So whenever we see this black flag with the red
Speaker 4: and white banners on it, or red and black banners
Speaker 4: on it, keep in mind it all stems from a
Speaker 4: legitimate anti Nazi group from the nineteen twenties that did
Speaker 4: take root in America. But it wasn't called antifa at
Speaker 4: that time. It was called the Anti Fascist Party of Action. Okay,
Speaker 4: that was that was the motto at that time.
Speaker 3: Unreal.
Speaker 2: I did not know that it goes back that far,
Speaker 2: and most people don't.
Speaker 4: Most people have never heard of it like this. So
Speaker 4: now I got a little a dot gov document that's
Speaker 4: gonna break it all down. What is antifa? Is it
Speaker 4: a group or an idea? And what do supporters want?
Speaker 3: When this is a CBS article by the.
Speaker 4: Way, mm hm wow.
Speaker 2: So it says Antifa seeing a steady increase in media
Speaker 2: attention ever since former President Donald Trump took office in
Speaker 2: January of twenty seventeen. Republicans often portray Antifa as a
Speaker 2: highly organized group of terrorists worthy of a national watch list.
Speaker 2: Some conspiracy theorists falsely blamed Antifa for the January sixth
Speaker 2: capital rides that led to five deaths, which if you
Speaker 2: look into that, that's not a conspiracy.
Speaker 3: It was literally it's on camera.
Speaker 4: Like Antifa absolutely was there to poke the bear a bit.
Speaker 4: But then keep in mind, the police and the security
Speaker 4: guards let the protesters into the building. That wasn't Antifa,
Speaker 4: but Antifa was the one that turned small pockets of
Speaker 4: the protest into violent pockets. The conservatives out there weren't
Speaker 4: trying to do violence. They weren't trying to tear shit up,
Speaker 4: because that's not what conservatives do.
Speaker 3: No, that's Auntie what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying that they definitely were sprinkling themselves
Speaker 2: into the jan six thing. So it says right wing
Speaker 2: media blames Antifa members for rioting and looting. Democrats have
Speaker 2: also condemned such violence, but many on the left say
Speaker 2: the rhetoric about Antifa is greatly exaggerated and that it's
Speaker 2: less of an organized movement than just something.
Speaker 3: Of a quote unquote idea.
Speaker 2: But much of what politicians say about Antifa isn't quite true.
Speaker 2: Here's what antifa is, what it isn't, and what you
Speaker 2: need to know.
Speaker 3: According to CBS.
Speaker 2: So anti anti anti antifa is not a highly organized movement,
Speaker 2: nor is it merely an idea. Nor isn't an idea.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's not highly organized, yet somehow we are able
Speaker 4: to enact RICO cases against it, which literally the O
Speaker 4: of RICO is organized or organization. So like, let's continue.
Speaker 2: Antifa is a loose affiliation of local activists scattered across
Speaker 2: the United States and a few other countries. The term
Speaker 2: antifa is short for anti fascist. It's used both by
Speaker 2: its adherents and its foes. In general, people who identify
Speaker 2: as antifa are known not for what they support, but
Speaker 2: what they oppose fascism, nationalism, far right ideologies, white supremacy, authoritarianism, racism, homophobia,
Speaker 2: and xenophobia. Interesting how it's not even an idea, but
Speaker 2: you know everything they stand for.
Speaker 5: It's crazy how that works, right.
Speaker 2: Some antifa activists also denounce capitalism and the government overall.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm for you know, denouncing the government personally, but.
Speaker 4: They're all against capitalism, even though they're all carrying iPhones
Speaker 4: that like I don't know how else I could show
Speaker 4: an ironic picture, but sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny.
Speaker 2: So mostly people aligned with antifa on the left of
Speaker 2: the political spectrum, so they're mostly aligned with them. So
Speaker 2: Antifa is not, however, affiliated with President Joe Biden, the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party, or its leaders. Mister Biden has condemned Antifa
Speaker 2: and called violence unacceptable.
Speaker 3: How do you condemn something that doesn't exist, right, if.
Speaker 5: It's not real?
Speaker 4: How did their Lord and Savior of Obama's well, their
Speaker 4: Lord and Savior Obama's lackey, Joe Biden say that this
Speaker 4: group and its violence needs to be stopped. I thought
Speaker 4: it's not real, Jonathan.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm getting confused at. So, like, that's like
Speaker 2: saying that you're I don't know, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: go too weird, but it says Antifa actions have included
Speaker 2: everything from tracking and publicly identifying members of alt right
Speaker 2: groups to physically attacking adversaries in Antifa. The Anti Fascist
Speaker 2: Handbook author Mark Bray, an organizer of the Occupy Wall
Speaker 2: Street movement, lays out Antifa's methods this way interesting.
Speaker 4: So an organizer, an organizer of the Occupy Wall Street thing,
Speaker 4: and the writer of the Antifa Handbook.
Speaker 5: But it's not organized, dude, what are we talking about?
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm trying to say is that, you know,
Speaker 2: that whole Occupy Wall Street thing was crazy. I mean,
Speaker 2: there were people that were saying, like, look, we're tired
Speaker 2: of fucking Wall Street getting bailed out. Meanwhile, it's it's
Speaker 2: literally sucking everybody dry, like these these big shorts by
Speaker 2: by I don't know, like these these think tanks and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Is is literally like uh, sucking dry
Speaker 2: the people that decide to invest in a stock, right,
Speaker 2: it is market manipulation. And so whenever Occupy Wall Street,
Speaker 2: you know, was becoming a movement like it was, it
Speaker 2: was like a lot of people were getting their eyes
Speaker 2: on it. And then you get fucking infiltrators like this
Speaker 2: piece of shit Mark Bray, who he's an organizer, He's
Speaker 2: a he's a fucking organizer of of you know, the
Speaker 2: whole that whole thing.
Speaker 4: But but there.
Speaker 3: Is no organizer of Antifa.
Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense, No, But you gotta understand, Occupy
Speaker 4: Wall Street, that whole movement was an Antifa psyop. That's
Speaker 4: all it. Ever was the guy who wrote the Handbook
Speaker 4: of the ANTIFA group was one of the big dogs
Speaker 4: on Occupy Wall Street, and there was more that were
Speaker 4: affiliates of Antifa.
Speaker 5: You can't separate this.
Speaker 2: I'm inclined to believe that it started out as a
Speaker 2: grasserist movement in the same way that BLM did maybe
Speaker 2: the earliest stages.
Speaker 3: What I'm trying to say is is.
Speaker 2: That Occupy Wall Street should have been a bigger thing
Speaker 2: that actually put more of a spotlight on all of
Speaker 2: the market manipulation with Wall Street, and then it got occupied,
Speaker 2: like Occupy Wall Street got occupied, is what I'm trying
Speaker 2: to say. The the that's what I interpreted it as.
Speaker 5: Though no, no, I hear you.
Speaker 4: I hear you. And again a lot of people who
Speaker 4: haven't done more research into the Occupy Wall Street thing
Speaker 4: the message that they were trying to portray as far
Speaker 4: as like the government bailouts of big corporations has to stop, right,
Speaker 4: These people get hooked up for doing a bad job.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile the lower level people get fucked every time. Sure, okay,
Speaker 4: we could at least have that kind of conversation.
Speaker 2: And by the way, the whole game stop craziness that's
Speaker 2: going on in the stock market is a slap in
Speaker 2: the face too. It's kind of like the way I
Speaker 2: view GameStop and a lot of these other like crazy
Speaker 2: stocks that are like growing for no specific reason other
Speaker 2: than people who are just trying to give the middle
Speaker 2: finger to the stock market. I believe that that is
Speaker 2: a no, not even a pumpt dumb because GameStop has
Speaker 2: been dude, it's been holding its value for like years now,
Speaker 2: which is crazy, which actually is Oh, what's his fucking name?
Speaker 2: The conspiracy theorist guy that went on Rogan and he
Speaker 2: went on, uh we mentioned Carol.
Speaker 4: Carol. Yeah, that's how he got started. Literally, how he
Speaker 4: got started was.
Speaker 2: By documenting all the shit that was going on with
Speaker 2: the game stock, game stop Stock, and they all got.
Speaker 4: Into a core Democrat leftist, or at least he used
Speaker 4: to be. He's very loud and proud about that, and
Speaker 4: it's like.
Speaker 3: He yeah, no, he's not anymore. But yeah, I just
Speaker 3: want to throw that out there.
Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not even saying, are you saying
Speaker 2: that from its inception that Occupy Wall Street was corrupted
Speaker 2: and infiltrated?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now, they would never let you know that on
Speaker 4: the surface, because it's all about just fucking over these
Speaker 4: rich people and this and this and this.
Speaker 5: But isn't that literally what Antifa is screaming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's going after the stock market and it did,
Speaker 2: you know, put a spotlight on it. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm open to it. Maybe we'll do a
Speaker 2: show on it, because that's not how I interpreted. I
Speaker 2: interpreted as like Occupy Wall Street was a good thing
Speaker 2: until it got corrupted.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that the government should be bailing out
Speaker 4: these companies whenever they do bad business deals. Like if
Speaker 4: your company goes under, then it goes under. That's how
Speaker 4: capitalism works, right, That's how.
Speaker 2: It's not even just the companies that are in the
Speaker 2: stock market. It is bailing out the stock market in general,
Speaker 2: like the NASDAC and the dal Jones and all of that,
Speaker 2: because if that gets shorter, then the stock market ceases
Speaker 2: to exist. And if the stock market ceases to exist, well,
Speaker 2: these big corporations aren't going to be able to you know,
Speaker 2: one million x their business capital in order to be
Speaker 2: able to you know what I mean, Like it's a scam.
Speaker 2: The knock market is a scam. Like can we just
Speaker 2: accept that? Like a one hundred percent is one of it.
Speaker 2: That's why I like crypto another scam, like it is
Speaker 2: a scam, like you look at dude. Just the other day,
Speaker 2: the entire crypto market went down forty percent, believe it.
Speaker 2: And what happened is is that they fucking put a
Speaker 2: halt on it. They put a halt on the market
Speaker 2: so that all of the uh, all of the quote
Speaker 2: unquote whales and you know, big government corporations and stuff
Speaker 2: like that could pull their money out before it went
Speaker 2: down any farther. You want to talk about a fucking
Speaker 2: scam like all of it is.
Speaker 4: I don't. This is what a lot of people are like, Bro,
Speaker 4: why are you not invested in crypto that because of that?
Speaker 4: Well it's it's not associated with the government, it's its
Speaker 4: own thing.
Speaker 3: No, it's not like it's not the markets no way
Speaker 3: the market goes.
Speaker 2: Look, if you have a a liquid asset, you know,
Speaker 2: like if you are invested in I don't know, let's
Speaker 2: just say fucking JC penny, which is funny because it's
Speaker 2: a fucking penny stock now or I think it actually
Speaker 2: got delisted, I'm not sure, but but if you were
Speaker 2: invested in that, that's it is completely manipulated, like all
Speaker 2: of it is manipulated because you have big whales that
Speaker 2: are controlling the entire thing. Whenever you have corporations that
Speaker 2: literally have like I don't know, thirty or forty percent
Speaker 2: invested interest in these In these companies, they determined.
Speaker 3: The stock price.
Speaker 2: So if they decide to pull out and they do
Speaker 2: the rug pull, and everybody else is like fire selling
Speaker 2: because they don't want to get caught with the bag. Well,
Speaker 2: now all of those people they sold all their shares
Speaker 2: for pennies on the dollar. The big thirty percent that
Speaker 2: you know that the corporations or whatever own, they're just
Speaker 2: picking up all those fucking shares for pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 2: And if they want to boost it back up, now
Speaker 2: they become millionaires.
Speaker 3: That's market manipulation. One oh one.
Speaker 4: And see this is why I don't get down with it.
Speaker 4: I've never invested in the stocks. I tried investing in
Speaker 4: crypto twice, and it wasn't like large sums of money
Speaker 4: just playing around just to see what would happen to
Speaker 4: Helllo Robin hood at you know, action happened both times.
Speaker 4: I lost my ass instantly, and it's like, well, this
Speaker 4: is why I don't gamble because I'm this bad at it,
Speaker 4: whether it's casino, whether it's crypto, whether it's stocks. If
Speaker 4: I do it, I'm losing my money. But you know what,
Speaker 4: that's the point. It's not just government bailouts that are
Speaker 4: saving the stock market or the government putting a hold
Speaker 4: on crypto. It's like, yeah, well it's not associated with
Speaker 4: the government. But if the government can halt it and
Speaker 4: freeze it to save government assets and then it continues,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, that's just inaccurate.
Speaker 5: You know what. I like investing my money in silver
Speaker 5: and gold bullion.
Speaker 4: You know why, Jonathan, Because it's always going to retain
Speaker 4: a value no matter what. The stocks can go all
Speaker 4: over the place. Gold is going to have a value.
Speaker 4: Silver is going to have a value. The economy can
Speaker 4: collapse right now, and I promise you the silver that
Speaker 4: I have I could bring in and pay my bills
Speaker 4: and all the good cult members out there. If you
Speaker 4: would like to get your start in the buying and
Speaker 4: selling and trading of gold and silver buoyant and minted coins,
Speaker 4: then come to I got the.
Speaker 5: Link of the description below to cocsilver dot com.
Speaker 4: When you fill out your information, our homeboy Wayne Clark
Speaker 4: is going to be the one to reach out to
Speaker 4: you and get you squared away. Do you want to
Speaker 4: buy a little bit? Do you want to put some
Speaker 4: of your retirement nest egg into it? Listen, talk to
Speaker 4: your financial advisor, talk to your CPA. Don't take my
Speaker 4: word for it. I'm just a decad with a microphone.
Speaker 4: Talk to your financial person and ask them, Hey, what
Speaker 4: do you think about investing in gold and silver? I
Speaker 4: promise you, if your accountant is worth a fuck, they're
Speaker 4: gonna tell you that at least a portion of your
Speaker 4: retirement nest egg needs to be invested in precious metals.
Speaker 4: The best place to get your start, would beat is
Speaker 4: go to cocsilver dot com. We're not talking about investing
Speaker 4: in the stock. We're not talking about investing in the price.
Speaker 4: We're talking about you sending money and you getting real, hard,
Speaker 4: tangible silver mailed to your front door, or gold or platinum.
Speaker 4: They got a couple of different options, and it's not
Speaker 4: just coins. Some of it's artwork, some of it's collectibles,
Speaker 4: some of it's bars, like real weight of this material.
Speaker 4: You want to get your start, cocsilver dot com.
Speaker 5: That is the best place to go.
Speaker 4: But anyway, moving on, good plug. I thought it was
Speaker 4: a good natural segue. We don't get those off moon
Speaker 4: we do. I like to lean into it, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And it's something that we believe in.
Speaker 2: By the way, like we are also invested in silver,
Speaker 2: Like we have multiple silver coins that we are you know,
Speaker 2: we're trying to build up our own little nest egg,
Speaker 2: starting small of course, like one little silver coin.
Speaker 3: It's like thirty bucks, thirty five bucks, something like that.
Speaker 4: Right, Oh, I'm saying listen, if you're only buying one
Speaker 4: coin a month, okay, one coin a month, and that's
Speaker 4: not going to put a big hurt on your your pocketbook, right,
Speaker 4: but at the end of the year, you'll have twelve coins.
Speaker 4: Or if you're even gonna buy one coin a week,
Speaker 4: at the end of the year, you'll have fifty two coins.
Speaker 4: Now you do that and just let it sit in
Speaker 4: your in your gun safe, in a bank, deposit box,
Speaker 4: whatever the case. Bury it. I don't care what's your mattress.
Speaker 4: Go for it. Right then, in twenty years, if we
Speaker 4: are just tracking the percentage of growth that has happened,
Speaker 4: silver has always been what silver is gonna be. The
Speaker 4: dollar keeps going up down, left, right, and center, right. So,
Speaker 4: knowing for effect that inflation is not going to stop
Speaker 4: and that the money is going to continue being ridiculous
Speaker 4: years from now, what do you think those fifty two
Speaker 4: troy ounces of silver will be able.
Speaker 3: To buy you fucking Lambeau? Hopefully?
Speaker 4: I mean we can only hope, you know. But also
Speaker 4: if it gets to that point, then the US dollar
Speaker 4: has fallen so far that we're pretty much fucked. But
Speaker 4: you won't be fucked if you have some precious metals
Speaker 4: that you could rely on and fall back on.
Speaker 3: Anyways, that is very true.
Speaker 2: So back to Mark Bray, the organizer of Occupy Wall
Speaker 2: Street movement, lays out antifa's methods this way in quotes.
Speaker 2: Despite the media portrayal of a deranged, bloodthirsty Antifa, the
Speaker 2: vast majority of anti fascist tactics involve no physical violence whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Anti Fascists conduct research on the far right, outline on
Speaker 2: the far right online, in person, and sometimes through infiltrations.
Speaker 2: They dox them, push Central MILU to disown them, pressure
Speaker 2: bosses to fire them. But it's also true that some
Speaker 2: of them punch Nazis in the face and don't apologize
Speaker 2: for it during public demonstrations. Antifa activists often wear top
Speaker 2: two toe black. Even before the coronavirus pandemic, they were
Speaker 2: also known for wearing face coverings at public gatherings, such
Speaker 2: as they're.
Speaker 4: All about dosing people, but they don't want you to
Speaker 4: know who they are, because then you might find them
Speaker 4: at their home and that's not good. It's like, you mean,
Speaker 4: like the person you're trying to do that too, right now? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Antifa has no official national leadership, though followers have organized
Speaker 2: themselves into small local cells that sometimes coordinate with other
Speaker 2: movements such as Black Lives Matter. Some self described Antifa
Speaker 2: adherents have organized to confront Patriot Prayer, the Proud Boys,
Speaker 2: and other far right groups during public demonstrations. Some of
Speaker 2: those rallies have devolved into violence. I would say the
Speaker 2: majority of Patriot Prayer.
Speaker 4: So you've got a bunch of conservatives that are getting
Speaker 4: together to have one group prayer session, and Antifa's out
Speaker 4: there to like just we got to put a stop
Speaker 4: to that, like out loud, that's fucking insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never heard of that Patriot Prayer. Maybe we'll
Speaker 3: look into it soon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's solid. They have like big breakfasts
Speaker 4: and big banquets and stuff. It's an aw thing. Okay.
Speaker 2: So some antifa adherents keep a very low profile, while
Speaker 2: other local groups venture to give themselves a more public
Speaker 2: profile with the name and a website. One of the
Speaker 2: oldest such groups appears to be Rose City Antifa, which
Speaker 2: says it was founded in Portland, Oregon, in two thousand
Speaker 2: and seven. According to its website, its main focus is
Speaker 2: any work that prevents fascist organizing and when that is
Speaker 2: not possible, provides consequences to fascist organizers. This is supported
Speaker 2: by researching and tracking fascist organizations. If that patriot prayer
Speaker 2: group is literally just a group of people who like
Speaker 2: are Christians or whatever that are getting together for prayer
Speaker 2: and breakfast, Like, why would.
Speaker 3: You need to infiltrate that.
Speaker 4: Do you remember the Tea party movement that was happening
Speaker 4: a couple of years back, I a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So basically what it was was conservatives that were getting
Speaker 4: together on the capital steps of whatever state that they live, Right,
Speaker 4: My parents even went to one in Baton Rouge. Right,
Speaker 4: it wasn't a it wasn't a violent insurrection. It was
Speaker 4: a peaceful protest, which is protected with the First Amendment.
Speaker 4: The right to peacefully as symbol, okay, And it was
Speaker 4: just them. They had some some speaker phones, and they
Speaker 4: had some signs out there, and they were just having
Speaker 4: a conservative protest and that was all it was, all
Speaker 4: it ever was. And it was the Tea Party movement
Speaker 4: talking about like it was a homage to the Boston
Speaker 4: Tea Party, right, and that's it. You didn't hear anything
Speaker 4: about buildings being looted, cop cars being set fire, or
Speaker 4: even liberals or Democrats being attacked for just being around
Speaker 4: the vicinity of this crazy tea party group and the
Speaker 4: tea the tea baggers, Right, you remember hearing about all that.
Speaker 4: It was just a bunch of boomers getting together to
Speaker 4: talk about like conservative values.
Speaker 5: How crazy is this? How how evil this is?
Speaker 11: Ugh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 2: So anyhow, it says Antifa in prime time, so or
Speaker 2: mister Trump's years in office coverage have Antifa skyrocketed in
Speaker 2: the mainstream press. By the way, I just want to
Speaker 2: say this, doesn't it make them more dangerous? As if
Speaker 2: everybody is going out there and saying that there is
Speaker 2: no organizer, that there is no leader, that basically anybody
Speaker 2: can take up the Antifa flag and just carry out
Speaker 2: what it believes in. Like, so if there isn't a direction,
Speaker 2: then that means that there are no bounds. And if
Speaker 2: there's no bounds, and that means anything can happen as
Speaker 2: a result of your interpretation of whatever Antifa is. I
Speaker 2: think that that kind of makes it a little bit
Speaker 2: more dangerous, don't you.
Speaker 4: It does, and it's also incorrect, right, so, like, just
Speaker 4: so we're all clear, there is infighting within Antifa. If
Speaker 4: you were to right now, average Joe blow off the street,
Speaker 4: grab an Antifa flag and go to uh Antifa protest
Speaker 4: and the actual Antifa members don't know who you are,
Speaker 4: and you're out there trying to pretend like you're one
Speaker 4: of them, and you just get down with their ideas
Speaker 4: or nothing, and they've never verified you, they will beat
Speaker 4: the actual fuck out of you.
Speaker 5: Like it's not a joke. They've done it to moremultiple people.
Speaker 4: And then let's say you are an Antifa member and
Speaker 4: you're like, you know, just entry level. You're not, You're
Speaker 4: not some sort of a shot call or anything like that.
Speaker 4: But there's like your first protests and you're out there
Speaker 4: and if one of the top dogs tells you to
Speaker 4: go set fire to something and you don't, they will
Speaker 4: beat the actual fuck out of you. It's it's not good.
Speaker 4: And then they'll dox you to the rest of the organization,
Speaker 4: not just to shun the non believer. You'll get harassment
Speaker 4: to you at your work, all these things because then
Speaker 4: your docs, they will make you out to be an
Speaker 4: enemy even though you were trying to be a help,
Speaker 4: that you weren't trying to hurt nobody. But it's like, no,
Speaker 4: if we told you it hurts somebody, you better it's
Speaker 4: it's insane.
Speaker 2: So this kind of sounds like organized socialized uh, suggestible puppets.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So anyway, that coverage, Oh so talking about the Antifa
Speaker 2: coverage that was skyrocketing in Trump's first years. So that
Speaker 2: coverage started on the day of his inauguration, when dozens
Speaker 2: of people took to the streets of the nation capital
Speaker 2: in a protest that would soon grow violent. Authorities would
Speaker 2: later arrest several dozen of them, many of whom later
Speaker 2: identified themselves as Antifa and accused them of starting fires
Speaker 2: and riots. Charges were eventually dropped for the bulk of
Speaker 2: the defendants, shocker, while others were acquitted by juries.
Speaker 5: Shocker.
Speaker 4: How and why if these people did damages. Why would
Speaker 4: they be acquitted? That's breaking the law. Interesting how certain things,
Speaker 4: certain money movements, happen, and all of a sudden these
Speaker 4: people walk away scott free.
Speaker 2: Just throwing it out, Mister Trump pointed a finger at
Speaker 2: what he called the alt left following the infamous Unite
Speaker 2: the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in twenty seventeen. Yep,
Speaker 2: I remember that one after a white supremacist deliberately plowed
Speaker 2: his car into a crowd of counter protesters, killing a
Speaker 2: woman named Heather Heyer. Mister Trump sparked more outrage when
Speaker 2: he suggested an equivalency between the white supremacists and the
Speaker 2: protesters on the other side, who, despite his claims, were
Speaker 2: mostly peaceful. What about the alt left that came charging
Speaker 2: at what you say the alt right, mister Trump wondered aloud.
Speaker 2: Do they have any semblance of guilt? What about the
Speaker 2: fact that they're charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs?
Speaker 2: Do they have any problem?
Speaker 3: I think they do.
Speaker 2: In the year since then, media coverage has identified Antifa
Speaker 2: as participants and sometimes agitators in clashes at numerous rallies
Speaker 2: and protests around the country. That includes a twenty seventeen
Speaker 2: anti hate rally in Berkeley, California, and a Patriot Prayer
Speaker 2: freedom rally in Portland, Oregon in twenty eighteen. In at
Speaker 2: least one instance, a person self identifying as an Antifa
Speaker 2: supporter has been linked to a deadly attacked a deadly
Speaker 2: attack at a protest Michael Forrest Raynold Renewell, who is
Speaker 2: forty eight years old, was considered a prime suspect and
Speaker 2: an August twenty twenty killing of a thirty nine year
Speaker 2: old Aaron J. Danielson, a right wing activist who who
Speaker 2: was shot during heated demonstration in Portland, y Rhina. Well
Speaker 2: was later shot to death by federal authorities as they
Speaker 2: moved to arrest him.
Speaker 4: Shocker, right, this this peaceful group, Why they're just so
Speaker 4: peaceful as everything's burning around them and as shots are
Speaker 4: are being shot everywhere? That that was a weird well
Speaker 4: in turnphrase there. But but has described himself in social
Speaker 4: media posts as one hundred percent Antifa.
Speaker 2: By the way, it's not a shocker that they would
Speaker 2: shoot him rather than sentencing him. Yeah, I agree that
Speaker 2: people like that should probably you know, face a judgment
Speaker 2: as he did. But I will say it's interesting you
Speaker 2: shoot him because dead men tell no tales.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, no, but they tried to arrest him. He
Speaker 4: shot at them while they were attempting to arrest him.
Speaker 4: You could look into the case, they're like, yeah, he
Speaker 4: shot this guy, the police go in to detain him,
Speaker 4: and then he fucking suicide by coped it. Well, what
Speaker 4: I'm saying is is that usually these kind of people
Speaker 4: are doing doing things, uh and and they're they're they're
Speaker 4: getting themselves in trouble, but then as soon as the
Speaker 4: authorities get their hands on them, hey, let's shoot them
Speaker 4: so that they don't say anything. You know.
Speaker 2: I think about like Jeffrey Epstein kind of kind of thing, right, like,
Speaker 2: let's dead man tells hotels kind of thing in the
Speaker 2: same way George Zen right, Like, interesting, how this guy
Speaker 2: has been such a political activist or at least showing
Speaker 2: up at a lot of political rallies and and you know,
Speaker 2: big events and stuff like that, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I mean, the guy has been doing it
Speaker 2: literally since fucking Reagan, right, Like, this guy's been around.
Speaker 4: He was he.
Speaker 2: Literally slept at at the same hotel that Reagan did,
Speaker 2: on the floor of one of his constituents or whatever
Speaker 2: during some kind of shit. But the why I bring
Speaker 2: that up is interesting, how now he gets slapped with
Speaker 2: the child porn you know stuff. And by the way,
Speaker 2: you want to talk about a suggestible puppet. Not only
Speaker 2: did they slap the child pornography kind of stuff on him,
Speaker 2: they got him to admit that he fan he's looking
Speaker 2: at naked five year old.
Speaker 3: Girls on his cell phone, like bro.
Speaker 4: And I'm not even sure if that's true or not.
Speaker 4: That could completely be a part of the storyline. It
Speaker 4: could be very accurate. I don't know, but yes, to
Speaker 4: your point there. I saw one report saying he was
Speaker 4: one of the pallbearers for Reagan at his funeral. Allegedly
Speaker 4: this guy helped carry Reagan's casket. Either that or he
Speaker 4: was like a big shot caller in some way, shape
Speaker 4: or form at Reagan's funeral. He's a full on op
Speaker 4: and a. I don't even think that he knows that
Speaker 4: he's an OP. That's the crazy thing, like, that's all
Speaker 4: that's mk ultra. I don't even think that he actually
Speaker 4: knows that he's being used.
Speaker 5: I think he does, dude. I think that he's playing
Speaker 5: his role.
Speaker 2: Maybe for this last one with Charlie Kirk. But you'll
Speaker 2: see that there are suggestible puppets that the CIA, you know,
Speaker 2: through the use of mk Ultra and all their programs
Speaker 2: and everything, they'll take these people who are not right
Speaker 2: in the head, Like this guy is not right in
Speaker 2: the fucking head. Not saying that that gives him a
Speaker 2: pass by any means, but like they love taking these
Speaker 2: fucking people and using them as their own guinea pigs
Speaker 2: to carry out whatever it is they're trying to carry out.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm again like I think whatever you
Speaker 2: want about who shot Charlie Kirk and what was the
Speaker 2: motive and who was the one that was pulling the
Speaker 2: strings and stuff like that, there are these people that
Speaker 2: absolutely exist and you know, and that's what I'm trying
Speaker 2: to say. Like, as far as Antifa, these people are
Speaker 2: fucking angry because they can't get a job. Not that
Speaker 2: they can't, it's that they don't get a job. They
Speaker 2: won't get a job. They don't want to go to
Speaker 2: work because they believe, even though they're anti fascists, they
Speaker 2: believe in the socialist thing to where they don't have
Speaker 2: to fucking work and they can just suck off the
Speaker 2: teet of the government. You're so anti government, you're so
Speaker 2: anti fascism, but you want to be able to sit
Speaker 2: up on your ass and do nothing for a fucking living,
Speaker 2: literally like you want to be able to eat and
Speaker 2: collect food stamp. I have no problem with people getting
Speaker 2: food stamps. I for a short period of time, was
Speaker 2: collecting food stamps and shit like that whenever, you know,
Speaker 2: whenever I was poor. It's not meant to be a
Speaker 2: fucking you know, a lifelong thing. That's what these people want, right,
Speaker 2: So it's it's got saying they're getting paid to protest.
Speaker 2: This is a full time occupation for these fuckers. Dude,
Speaker 2: do you remember that fucking video of that kid It
Speaker 2: was a couple of years ago saying that he went
Speaker 2: on like indeed or maybe it was Craigslist or something
Speaker 2: like that, and and he saw that literally George Soros
Speaker 2: was paying these protesters right right, and and and George Soros,
Speaker 2: like in the the the organized thing that it came
Speaker 2: to be, was literally saying, yeah, we want you to
Speaker 2: go here, we want you to throw bricks, we want
Speaker 2: you to chant this. It was literally telling them what
Speaker 2: to do. So for people that say that antifa is
Speaker 2: not an organized thing. I mean maybe as a whole
Speaker 2: it's not very well organized, but there's definite a direction
Speaker 2: they're being pointed to.
Speaker 4: Oh it is, though, that's the thing. They want you
Speaker 4: to believe that it's unorganized. They want you to believe
Speaker 4: that these random palettes of bricks just magically appeared on
Speaker 4: these street corners because there was that much construction going
Speaker 4: on in random spots around the city, even though it wasn't.
Speaker 4: They are very highly organized, dude, and even still not
Speaker 4: just the Soros thing is absolutely effect not detracting from
Speaker 4: that whatsoever. But Soros doesn't have as much hand in
Speaker 4: Antifa as what you might think. There is other wealthy
Speaker 4: benefactors too, but also they make their own money and
Speaker 4: they we're gonna get to the business side of it
Speaker 4: here in a minute, and why they're able to be
Speaker 4: brought down under Rico charges now, they're not doing that.
Speaker 4: It's not a George Soros to them connection that makes
Speaker 4: RICO happen. That's an internal thing. But on the outset,
Speaker 4: from the outside looking in, they want you to believe
Speaker 4: that these are just kids. They're a little angsty, that's all.
Speaker 4: It's not like this is an organized movement or anything.
Speaker 4: But I promise you it is and we're gonna get
Speaker 4: to all of it. Let's continue here talking about the
Speaker 4: T word, and yes, we mean terrorism.
Speaker 2: In the summer of twenty nineteen, Republican Senators Ted Cruz
Speaker 2: and Bill Cassidy introduced a resolution calling for Antifa to
Speaker 2: be labeled as a domestic terror organization. President Trump voiced
Speaker 2: his support on Twitter. By the way, fuck Ted Cruz.
Speaker 4: Just want to that. Agree.
Speaker 2: Agree, Major consideration is being is being given to naming
Speaker 2: Antifa an organization of terror. Portland is being watched very closely.
Speaker 2: Hopefully the mayor will be able to properly do his job.
Speaker 2: That was a tweet or a truth I guess by
Speaker 2: Trump in twenty nineteen. Yeah, but at the time that
Speaker 2: Trump administration owned their own Department of Homeland Security and
Speaker 2: FBI didn't appear to view Antifa as a leading threat.
Speaker 2: A DHS draft document from September twenty twenty reportedly named
Speaker 2: white supremacist groups as the biggest terror threat to America.
Speaker 2: That same document doesn't mention Antifa at all.
Speaker 4: Interesting, right, because white supremacist groups have been responsible for
Speaker 4: so much violence in the last two decades. I forgot.
Speaker 2: Oh look, I'm just saying I've gotten to the point
Speaker 2: where I don't give a fuck about right or left.
Speaker 2: I think that Trump himself is even a fucking puppet
Speaker 2: of something much bigger.
Speaker 4: Now I will say this too, and I'm not we're
Speaker 4: not trying to take the conversation in this direction here,
Speaker 4: but the Sovereign Citizen group is again, you cannot the
Speaker 4: same way we were talking about how Antifa, you cannot
Speaker 4: separate it from communism, you cannot separate the Sovereign Citizen
Speaker 4: movement from white supremacy at its inception, where it comes from,
Speaker 4: and how a lot of these people view it still
Speaker 4: to this day. So when they were talking about white
Speaker 4: supremacist groups, they were not talking about the Klan being
Speaker 4: the most dangerous thing in America right now. They're talking
Speaker 4: about how almost every time a sovereign citizen gets pulled over,
Speaker 4: there's a gunfight that ensues. So that's where they were
Speaker 4: leading it in the twenty seventeen conversation. By the way,
Speaker 4: that's not.
Speaker 3: One stupid fuck's view. By the way, just want to
Speaker 3: throw them out there.
Speaker 4: One stupid fuck claims that he's not a sovereign citizen,
Speaker 4: so that's not him. But I mean, hell, they just
Speaker 4: had another shootout in Australia. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: cops pulled this guy over. He was just speeding. It's
Speaker 4: not like this was a violent crime or anything like that.
Speaker 4: It was a speeding stop. He gets out and starts
Speaker 4: firing at the police and kills two of them, like
Speaker 4: this is And then when they tracked him down and
Speaker 4: got him, he was a soft sit and that's that
Speaker 4: led to all this other shit. And it's like, okay, dude,
Speaker 4: like you didn't have to do this. She could just
Speaker 4: taken the ticket. I don't acknowledge your ticket. Okay, now
Speaker 4: you're in jail for life, if not facing the death
Speaker 4: penalty with what could have been a fucking two hundred
Speaker 4: dollars ticket, because your morals are more important. But whatever.
Speaker 2: Anyway, the FBI also considers a far considers far right
Speaker 2: groups the top of the priority list. FBI Director Christopher Ray,
Speaker 2: which fuck him too, said in February twenty twenty that
Speaker 2: the FBI places the risk of violence from racially motivated
Speaker 2: extremist groups on the same footing as the threat posed
Speaker 2: by foreign terrorist organizations such as ISIS and its sympathizers.
Speaker 4: That's what I February of twenty twenty. You mean, right
Speaker 4: after Biden got in office, right, interesting.
Speaker 3: Right after the election was stolen. Yeah, yeah, interesting.
Speaker 4: Moving on.
Speaker 2: That's not to say the FBI hasn't also taken aim
Speaker 2: at Antifa. After arson and looting broke out amid the
Speaker 2: protests in Minneapolis following the death of George Floyd, Christopher
Speaker 2: Ray said, we're seeing people who are exploiting this situation
Speaker 2: to pursue violent extremist agendas. Anarchists like Antifa and other agitators.
Speaker 2: These individuals have set out to sow discord and upheaval
Speaker 2: rather than join in the righteous pursuit of equality and justice.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. So even Christopher Ray said that they were real.
Speaker 4: And trying to pursue violence and extremist agendas his own words.
Speaker 2: But the idea of designating Antifa a terror group worries
Speaker 2: some civil rights advocates.
Speaker 3: Why would it.
Speaker 4: They're not a civil rights group. They are not. They
Speaker 4: even said that they are not a civil Okay, yep, sure.
Speaker 2: The designation would grant federal law enforcement broad powers under
Speaker 2: the federal Federal under the Federal Terrorism Code to surveil
Speaker 2: and investigate anyone labeled as Antifa. In quotes from the
Speaker 2: Southern Poverty Law Center set in a statement, it could
Speaker 2: also allow federal enforcement to broadly target anyone involved in
Speaker 2: protests viewed unfavorably by the Trump administration, even retroactively end quotes,
Speaker 2: the Center added in quotes, President Trump's announcement is rooted
Speaker 2: in politics, not the present realities of the terror threat
Speaker 2: in the United States. I mean that might be true,
Speaker 2: that might be somewhat true. I'm not gonna say it's
Speaker 2: completely unherralded because.
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, wait, oh wait, because as we're going
Speaker 4: to get to this, yeah, it's rooted in politics, not
Speaker 4: the present realities of the terror threat in the United States.
Speaker 4: We're gonna look at some of the antifa things that
Speaker 4: have been going on in the past few years, including
Speaker 4: currently in Chicago, New York, Portland. It's uh no, this
Speaker 4: is currently the present threat in danger for sure.
Speaker 2: And so it gets to the false flags. Antifa has
Speaker 2: earned its reputation for sporadic violence, but many other rumors
Speaker 2: about Antifa has been spun from the whole cloth, sometimes
Speaker 2: by people later identified as right wing extremists, and June
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty Twitter shut down multiple fake Antifa accounts
Speaker 2: that were inciting violence against white suburbs. Subsequent investigations tracked
Speaker 2: the accounts to identify ev Ropa, a white supremacist organization.
Speaker 4: Never heard of that one, I have not.
Speaker 3: This was a tweet.
Speaker 2: By Antifa America at Antifa underscore US Alert, Tonight's the
Speaker 2: night comrades with a fist being held up tonight we
Speaker 2: say fuck? Is that fuck the city? I'm guessing, so
Speaker 2: fuck the city and we move into the residential areas,
Speaker 2: the white hoods, and we take what's ours hashtag black
Speaker 2: Lives matter, hashtag fuck America with a middle finger.
Speaker 4: So allegedly this is from a right wing you know,
Speaker 4: white supremacist and all these things, although that's not entirely accurate.
Speaker 4: But all right, sure.
Speaker 2: They're saying that it was a white supremacist that infiltrated
Speaker 2: the Antifa account, and we're trying to paint the Antifa
Speaker 2: as the bad guys, the disruptors.
Speaker 3: Is that what they're saying.
Speaker 4: Essentially, But again, and that's not accurate, like at all,
Speaker 4: And that's not the only post that has been made
Speaker 4: where Antifa is calling for violence like this.
Speaker 2: Right, But even if that was true, but from that
Speaker 2: account was it confirmed that it was not actually Antifa post.
Speaker 4: It's from the Antifa America actual like their site. So
Speaker 4: they're saying that Antifa got infiltrated so deeply, which again
Speaker 4: they're they're not organized, but we'll show you here in
Speaker 4: a minute how organized they really really are. And so
Speaker 4: they're saying that they got infiltrated so deeply by a
Speaker 4: overt white supremacist. I have a feeling like a white
Speaker 4: supremacist wouldn't have gotten to the position to be able
Speaker 4: to release a tweet on their official account.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's strange. I mean, there's hack jobs all over
Speaker 3: the place.
Speaker 4: So I'm not saying that, you know, Twitter accounts can't
Speaker 4: get hacked, but sure, sure, maybe that's.
Speaker 3: What they're saying.
Speaker 2: I don't know which If that is true, then fuck
Speaker 2: those people too, right, like, oh yep, you know that's
Speaker 2: are in the pot.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So, it says.
Speaker 2: Right wing figures and other commentators on social media also
Speaker 2: have falsely used unspecified Antifa members of starting wildfires on
Speaker 2: the West Coast, prompting police and fire officials to appeal
Speaker 2: to the public to stop spreading what one agency called
Speaker 2: an untrue rumor.
Speaker 3: You know all caps what the untrue?
Speaker 4: It says, so right.
Speaker 2: Another common conspiracy theory has alleged that without evidence.
Speaker 3: I love when they say that.
Speaker 4: Also, real quick, the wildfires on the West coast that
Speaker 4: was started by Florida man. We just talked about that
Speaker 4: on the Cole on the Cajun Night as a matter
Speaker 4: of fact, not to shameless plug, but every Wednesday night
Speaker 4: at nine, come join us. But the Palisades fire was
Speaker 4: started by a Florida man who, shocker, had ties to Antiva. No, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, listen, what do I know?
Speaker 5: What do I know?
Speaker 4: I'm just the guy doing a little bit of some
Speaker 4: research from time to time. Do your own. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's crazy how you know how the connections are there.
Speaker 4: But then the media just wants to sidestep it.
Speaker 2: Well that's funny because they say that there's no evidence.
Speaker 2: So where are you pulling that from, Jacob. Obviously there's
Speaker 2: no violence, so it's not even real. It's not even real.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Jenny Kimble just told us Antifa is not real.
Speaker 4: It's myth.
Speaker 3: So I mean, clearly it's Jacob.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to listen to the talking heads
Speaker 2: whenever they say, you know, doing your own research is
Speaker 2: a dangerous game to play. Sir God, where's Rachel Maddow
Speaker 2: when you need her to give us her wisdom and
Speaker 2: her and her discuss I actually threw U from my
Speaker 2: mouth a little bit after saying that, fuck her super
Speaker 2: muff anyway. So could you imagine hiking a football out
Speaker 2: of that bad boy? But she's got more of a
Speaker 2: cannon than Peyton Manning ever had. Good God disgusting anyway.
Speaker 2: Another common conspiracy theory has a ledge without evidence, that
Speaker 2: billionaire billionaire philanthropist George Soros is funding Antifa. There's no
Speaker 2: evidence to that. Did they say fresh attention after Capitol riots?
Speaker 2: So after the January sixth Capital riots that left five dead,
Speaker 2: including a Capital Law Capitol police officer, false rumors claimed
Speaker 2: Antifa was behind the attacks, and in fact, among the
Speaker 2: hundreds of criminal complaints filed so far, dozens involve suspects
Speaker 2: affiliated with right wing organizations, including oath Keepers, Proud Boys,
Speaker 2: three percenters, and pro Trump followers of the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3: According to federal prosecutors.
Speaker 2: One alleged rider reportedly told friends that he that he
Speaker 2: planned to pose as Antifa to full law enforcements. There
Speaker 2: are pieces of shit out there that like to make
Speaker 2: this money, like one and and and by the way,
Speaker 2: anytime somebody says that they're far right, this is this
Speaker 2: is part of the lunacy of it. But if somebody
Speaker 2: says that they, you know, that they're pro Trump, that
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily if you're if you're pro Trump and there's
Speaker 2: somebody out there that says that they're pro Trump.
Speaker 4: You can't say, oh, well, you're a good guy now, right, Like,
Speaker 4: because people are individuals with their own ideologies, So like,
Speaker 4: just just by saying that doesn't automatically make them good guy.
Speaker 3: I just I feel like people get that confused, you know, Like.
Speaker 2: I agree percent like that can be very muddied because yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm so pro Trump that I'm gonna go snipe Biden, Like, well,
Speaker 2: you don't want to be affiliated with that person, Like,
Speaker 2: no matter what your feelings are against my Biden or
Speaker 2: even fucking Rachel Maddow whatever, right, Like, we don't want
Speaker 2: to see any of these people killed. But there are
Speaker 2: extremists on both sides that will represent, unfortunately, the the
Speaker 2: other ninety nine percent of whatever party that you affiliate
Speaker 2: yourself with. And so you gotta look at it from
Speaker 2: that angle too, like there's crazies on both sides.
Speaker 3: Just so we can understand that.
Speaker 4: Not one hundred percent that's accurate. All right. So, with
Speaker 4: all this being said, when did Antifa really start entering
Speaker 4: the zeitgeist as far as the American conversation that we
Speaker 4: know of today anyway, Well, we're gonna go back in
Speaker 4: time just a couple of years here. You remember the
Speaker 4: Atlanta Stop Cop City protest. Yeah, we did a whole
Speaker 4: show on it exactly. So the members that were arrested
Speaker 4: from that, as a matter of fact, just got seen
Speaker 4: in court a couple of I think a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks ago. As a time of recording. The case has
Speaker 4: moved haltingly along since a Rico indictment brought in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty three charged sixty one people over the movement against
Speaker 4: the Atlanta Public Safety Training Center. Now, we did a
Speaker 4: little episode talking about Stop Cop City and all these things,
Speaker 4: the Atlanta Forest Group or whatever like that, but we
Speaker 4: should mention this group had ties with Antifa, and they
Speaker 4: are also being indicted on Rico charges. So it doesn't
Speaker 4: take much to really look at this because of what
Speaker 4: they found when they did their deep digging into this,
Speaker 4: but let's read in here.
Speaker 2: Atlanta's Stop Cop City protest case will be back in
Speaker 2: court Monday morning with four defendants having motions before a judge.
Speaker 2: The case includes sixty one people who were indicted on
Speaker 2: rico and other charges in twenty twenty three by Georgia
Speaker 2: Attorney General Chris Carr for alleged acts tied to the
Speaker 2: long running and sprawling protest movement against the Atlantic Public
Speaker 2: Atlanta Public Safety Training Center. So one of the complications
Speaker 2: and proceedings is that the defendants were severed or separated
Speaker 2: served or severed excuse media, Yeah, separated from one another
Speaker 2: in May by Judge Kevin Farmer. Lawyers on four of
Speaker 2: the defendants on Monday will argue on motions, including one
Speaker 2: to dismiss the charges and another to suppress certain evidence.
Speaker 2: Eleven Alive's Dan Kennedy reports eleven Alive that's the name
Speaker 2: of this article. Okay, yeah. It comes after the first
Speaker 2: defendant to reach trial in the case, Aila King, had
Speaker 2: a mistrial declared in July. Judge Farmer determined at the
Speaker 2: time that he had to declare mistrial after the higher
Speaker 2: Georgia Court of Appeals ruled that barring the public and
Speaker 2: media from jury selection in King's case had.
Speaker 3: Been pre judicial.
Speaker 2: It's not clear that that outcome has any impact on
Speaker 2: the other sixty defendants still awaiting trial. The indictment has
Speaker 2: highlighted events such as the March fifth, twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: when groups described as an organized mob got onto the
Speaker 2: Public Safety Training Center construction site and through molotov cocktails
Speaker 2: and burned construction equipment. Other arsens of construction equipment and
Speaker 2: police motorcycles have been alleged by authorities.
Speaker 4: All right, so we don't have to read the rest
Speaker 4: of this article. That's just the overall over under of it.
Speaker 4: But now let's talk about this because this is the
Speaker 4: first time that Antifa showed real signs of money moving
Speaker 4: from point eight to point B and their ties to
Speaker 4: other groups that are willing to do violence and cause
Speaker 4: property damage. Let's pull up this little video here from
Speaker 4: Crime with Nia, and they're gonna tell us a little
Speaker 4: bit more about it.
Speaker 12: Found by Dawn, George's attorney general called an emergency briefing.
Speaker 12: A few hours later, sixty one names of top Antifa
Speaker 12: members appeared on an indictment stretching over one hundred pages
Speaker 12: with charges of arson, money laundering, and racketeering under the
Speaker 12: state's Rico Statute. The same law once used to dismantle
Speaker 12: the Italian mob, now for the first time, aimed squarely
Speaker 12: at self proclaimed anti fascists. Why, according to prosecutors, the
Speaker 12: self proclaimed unorganized group is actually more organized than it seems.
Speaker 12: Appearing as though they're without a structure is a tactic
Speaker 12: Antifa uses to get away with heinous attacks, but not anymore.
Speaker 4: They allow people into their membership. They have boats, they
Speaker 4: have leaderships. It's much more organized than people realize.
Speaker 12: Now investigators knew their strategies, they could easily connect the
Speaker 12: attacks cause while they wanted them to appear random, their
Speaker 12: attacks were part of an organized campaign spanning multiple states.
Speaker 12: But the Georgia arrests were just the beginning.
Speaker 4: We just got an update.
Speaker 13: From the US Justice Department on a shooting that left
Speaker 13: an Alado police officer injured this weekend.
Speaker 3: The Department of.
Speaker 7: Justice calls this an ambush near the Prairie Land Detention Center.
Speaker 12: Ten days later, in Texas, an ambush outside the the
Speaker 12: Prairie Land Ice Attention Centre left a local officer bleeding
Speaker 12: from the neck. Investigators say attackers used fireworks to lure
Speaker 12: guards outside, then opened fire from the tree line. By sunrise,
Speaker 12: ten suspects were in custody. But here's the part that
Speaker 12: had investigators confirming their theory. The gear they found during
Speaker 12: the Texas ambush matched what agents had seen in Atlanta,
Speaker 12: the same tactical vests, radios, and propaganda manuals titled organizing
Speaker 12: for Attack, Insurrection, Anarchy. Those parallels caught Washington's attention fast.
Speaker 12: Within weeks, DHS and the FBI launched coordinated raids in Portland, Chicago,
Speaker 12: and Los Angeles, targeting safehouses and digital accounts tied to
Speaker 12: Antifa aligned collectives. Officials described it as a national enforcement phase,
Speaker 12: a shift from observing them to the direct dismantling of
Speaker 12: their organization. Inside the sea's departments, law enforcement found encrypted phones,
Speaker 12: hard drives full of chatlocks, and printed maps marking police
Speaker 12: facilities across several cities, facilities they likely intended to hit.
Speaker 12: For years, Antifa had been treated as just an ideology,
Speaker 12: but now what the investigators found told a different story.
Speaker 12: The reality was they were a movement, behaving like a network,
Speaker 12: moving funds like a syndicate, and striking like an army.
Speaker 12: So for the first time, prosecutors are calling Antifa what
Speaker 12: it always denied, being an organized criminal network, and when
Speaker 12: they looked into how they were funded, what happened next
Speaker 12: would blow this investigation wide open. Behind every arrest file,
Speaker 12: investigators found a pattern a few members were usually connected
Speaker 12: across several arrests, even though those arrests were from different states.
Speaker 12: They also found a few names kept coming up in
Speaker 12: their encrypted chats. But they found the smoking gun when
Speaker 12: they looked into how these groups recruit. It typically starts
Speaker 12: online with private servers on discord Signal Matrix, where new
Speaker 12: recruits are invited to have casual conversations around politics, trade
Speaker 12: memes and blueprints under digital nicknames. While it simply begins
Speaker 12: as political debate, it quickly morphs into the logistics of violence.
Speaker 12: They teach them things like how to block police vias,
Speaker 12: how to build a firebomb that burns hotter and longer,
Speaker 12: and how to erase metadata after an operation so if
Speaker 12: one of them gets caught, they can't be linked to
Speaker 12: each other. That same communication tactic is used in recruitments
Speaker 12: in all these small groups, the very same tactic, almost
Speaker 12: like there's a handbook being passed around and the cherry
Speaker 12: on top. Investigators were also able to trace some transactions
Speaker 12: in antifa's accounts to micro channels cross linked to hubs
Speaker 12: in Oregon, Michigan, and New York and guess who these
Speaker 12: hubs are connected to to the same groups, investigators rated,
Speaker 12: each hub had its own media liaison, a finance collective,
Speaker 12: and a set of rotating moderators who issued the new
Speaker 12: recruit's real world assignments. Former member Gabriel Nadale says breaking
Speaker 12: Antifa down into smaller hubs is how the organization stays
Speaker 12: detached from the consequences of the violence. That's the system's strength,
Speaker 12: but fortunately for law enforcement, that is also its biggest weakness.
Speaker 12: He calls it an ecosystem of chaos fueled by a
Speaker 12: single belief that America's institutions can't be reformed, only dismantled.
Speaker 12: And Another insider, known publicly only as Eric, describes the
Speaker 12: early stages of Antifat as a social club. He says
Speaker 12: that's also a strategy. They make you feel welcome, get
Speaker 12: you riled up on their ideologies, and just when you
Speaker 12: think you've joined a group where you convent out your
Speaker 12: political frustrations, they hand you a mask. And once you
Speaker 12: wear it.
Speaker 11: They were much more like, hey, you know, you better
Speaker 11: get in line with this, you know, and if you're not,
Speaker 11: those consequences and those pressure.
Speaker 4: So you were being forced to take violent action or
Speaker 4: else you might have been hurt.
Speaker 11: Oh not only that, but there was there was pressure,
Speaker 11: There was ostracization, things of that nature.
Speaker 12: FBI analysts mapped more than two hundred actions perpetuated by
Speaker 12: these small groups that all seemed to be connected by
Speaker 12: identical tactics. Diversion with fireworks, ambush from concealment, ending with
Speaker 12: digital brag posts hours later. Even the slogan's match, they
Speaker 12: had the same fonts, the same phrasing, suggesting they shared
Speaker 12: templates amongst each other. But perhaps the clearest signal came
Speaker 12: from the money train. One PayPal account in Portland received
Speaker 12: small donor transfers. The same day. A Georgia safehouse ordered
Speaker 12: bulk camping, fuel and respirators. A charity in New York
Speaker 12: sent grants labeled community outreach to a shell group whose
Speaker 12: only expense was protective gear. Prosecutors now call that operational overlap.
Speaker 12: When agents rated a townhouse outside Seattle, they found three
Speaker 12: Faraday bags filled with phones, flash drives and instruction booklets
Speaker 12: labeled Security Culture one oh one one file inside read
Speaker 12: like a corporate manual, complete with shifts, passwords, travel budgets,
Speaker 12: all for an organization that officially doesn't exist. For years,
Speaker 12: the public saw masked crowds and assumed they gathered spontaneously,
Speaker 12: But inside federal databases, the same crowds were easily connected
Speaker 12: different cities, but the same command structure and the very
Speaker 12: same outcomes.
Speaker 14: The violence by Antifi and Melbourn which happens, you know,
Speaker 14: and there's Antifa in Europe, and these groups are connected
Speaker 14: through networks because there is information, tactics, flow training that
Speaker 14: is going in between the US and Europe.
Speaker 12: And as investigators pulled one thread after another, a darker
Speaker 12: picture emerged. They found out how the movement had survived
Speaker 12: this long without law enforcement finding the connections between them.
Speaker 4: Okay, so once again it is not just this weird
Speaker 4: group of non connected individuals like the media would have
Speaker 4: you believe. Not at all.
Speaker 2: That is crazy. I did not know a lot of
Speaker 2: that actually. And by the way, this kind of reminds
Speaker 2: me of Lindsay Sharmon from Rogue right.
Speaker 4: Like she she was a part of the communist Party
Speaker 4: for years until she realized that it was a very
Speaker 4: organized cult and she broke ties.
Speaker 2: Dude, and she was ostracized because she wasn't there. You're
Speaker 2: not allowed to have a religious ideology. You're not allowed
Speaker 2: to have a spiritual ideology. Your god is its leader,
Speaker 2: right like. So that's that's literally how they how they
Speaker 2: view him. I like, look at fucking what's his name
Speaker 2: over in North Korea, like in that same way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's communist. That nation is communism. That's what
Speaker 4: it looks like when it's done to that level. Same
Speaker 4: way that the Soviet Union. All the stands that we
Speaker 4: have today, Afghanistan, Pakistan, whos Pakistan, Kazakhstan, all of them
Speaker 4: used to be a part of the Soviet Union.
Speaker 5: Go talk to any of the people that we lived through.
Speaker 4: Communism and ask them if they think that it's a
Speaker 4: good idea, the single one.
Speaker 3: Their leaders don't have a bothole, dude, Like they don't
Speaker 3: even shit. They're so perfect.
Speaker 2: And that's literally what they say, which is that's not
Speaker 2: even just us, like you know, being extreme. That's literally
Speaker 2: what they believe that they're Like Kim Jong un doesn't
Speaker 2: even fart because he's so close to perfection. He literally
Speaker 2: embodies perfection himself, and perfection doesn't have a butthole.
Speaker 4: So it's insane.
Speaker 2: Dude, dude, it's hilarious. I just looked at U. Somebody
Speaker 2: commented on one of the videos on Patreon and they
Speaker 2: said that that RFK sounds like he's talking through a
Speaker 2: spirit box.
Speaker 6: Yo.
Speaker 4: I heard someone say it sounds like he swallowed a vibrator.
Speaker 5: And you know what, I like it.
Speaker 4: I like it, you know. But anyway, anyway, all right,
Speaker 4: so let's go into this here. This is from NBC
Speaker 4: Dallas Fort Worth. Defendants in Prairie Land Detention Center attack
Speaker 4: appear in federal court. This was posted September twenty third
Speaker 4: of this year. So just so we're clear here, this
Speaker 4: wasn't like this random attack and all. This this again
Speaker 4: shows the level of sophistication and organization affiliated with Antifa.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Six of the fifteen defendants were arraigned in connection with
Speaker 2: the July fourth shooting of an Alvarado police officer. Six
Speaker 2: women charged in connection with the shooting at the Ice
Speaker 2: Prairie Land Detention Center on July fourth made their first
Speaker 2: appearance before a federal judge on Monday. They face charges
Speaker 2: ranging from attempted murder of federal agents to hindering the
Speaker 2: prosecution of terrorism. I'm pretty sure the only reason I
Speaker 2: wasn't there that night was because I was moving, James
Speaker 2: Barker Murphy, a friend of some of the defendants, said.
Speaker 2: Barker Murphy says the group plan day protest that night,
Speaker 2: not an ambush. They were there to show solidarity with
Speaker 2: the people who were being kidnapped, kidnapped off the streets
Speaker 2: by ice. They're being called terrorist, Barker Murphy said.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because again you're doing violence to further a political agenda.
Speaker 4: This textbook definition. But let's continue.
Speaker 2: According to a criminal complaint, for the defendants dressed in
Speaker 2: black military style clothing, some wearing body armor, and began
Speaker 2: shooting fireworks at the facility. When an Alvarado police officer
Speaker 2: responded to the scene, another defendant in the group allegedly
Speaker 2: shot the officer in the neck from nearby woods, while
Speaker 2: another alleged shooter across the street fired twenty to thirty
Speaker 2: rounds at an unarmed correctional officer or at unarmed correctional
Speaker 2: officers who.
Speaker 3: Stepped outside the facility.
Speaker 2: You do have some factors that already indicate that this
Speaker 2: was a premeditated attack, the number of people who were involved,
Speaker 2: the fact that they had to buy fireworks and bring
Speaker 2: firearms in advance, and the fact that they were all
Speaker 2: in coordinated clothing. Leah Simonton, a twenty year veteran of
Speaker 2: the US Attorney's Office of the Northern District of Texas,
Speaker 2: said Simonton or Simonton calls the case unprecedented. She says
Speaker 2: federal prosecutors are expected to present evidence that could prove
Speaker 2: the defendant's planned to kill the federal officers. They would
Speaker 2: be looking at text messages, any other forms of communication
Speaker 2: to really understand how these people were talking about the attack.
Speaker 2: She said, I don't think anybody should get shot in
Speaker 2: the neck. I mean that's pretty common, like human compassion.
Speaker 2: Barker Murphy said, well, shot in the neck, that's an
Speaker 2: interesting thing.
Speaker 4: Oh no, No, the cop or the ice agent that
Speaker 4: was shot, he was shot in the neck.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, you know, coincidence.
Speaker 2: The attempted murder of a federal officer carries a sentence
Speaker 2: of ten years to life in prison. Eight of the
Speaker 2: men charged and the case are expected to appear before
Speaker 2: a federal judge on Tuesday, including Bejamin Song, who has
Speaker 2: been named as an alleged shooter.
Speaker 4: So that's the breakdown of the attack that took place,
Speaker 4: and again all by a group that allegedly doesn't exist.
Speaker 4: And mostly he's full well all these types of things.
Speaker 2: And just to make a weird correlation here, if this
Speaker 2: is Antifa and you speculate that Antifa was the group,
Speaker 2: or somebody within the Antifa group was the one that
Speaker 2: shot Charlie Kirk, maybe they just only go for the jugular.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a sign of you know, what it means
Speaker 2: to be an Antifa.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think that they are decent shots,
Speaker 4: but not great shots. That's just my two cents. A
Speaker 4: next shot is typically fatal, yes, but you're still shooting
Speaker 4: a few inches low as far as where you're aiming,
Speaker 4: And that tells me that they are not very well trained.
Speaker 2: Unless you're being unless you're being directed to shoot in
Speaker 2: the neck, in which it would be a bullseye.
Speaker 4: Possibly, I'm not gonna say there's no chance of it,
Speaker 4: but I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'm just saying, like you think about
Speaker 2: all your vocal cords are coming from your neck. He
Speaker 2: was known for his public speaking, So if you want him,
Speaker 2: even if he doesn't die, you're still taking away his
Speaker 2: ability to maybe publicly speak at events, which is why
Speaker 2: you would shoot for the jugular.
Speaker 3: That's how my mine processes it.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, yeah, the juggler is going to be
Speaker 4: a kill shot though, but I mean even still, even
Speaker 4: you should be shooting for center mass. And I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to teach somebody how to do violence, but I
Speaker 4: mean any basic trainer will teach you you're shooting for
Speaker 4: the center of the chest or the head. So if
Speaker 4: you're shooting in the neck consistently, that means that either
Speaker 4: a you're pulling your shots and that's why they're going
Speaker 4: higher than the chest, or you're dropping your shots and
Speaker 4: that's why they're firing lower than the head.
Speaker 5: No one is trained ever to shoot the neck. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: And nobody knows exactly where the shooter was. Some people
Speaker 2: will say, well, it was the lavalet. Some people will
Speaker 2: say that it was somebody on top of a building.
Speaker 2: Some people would say, well it was somebody the detonated device.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like it's weird that there's not a clear,
Speaker 2: you know, idea about even where the shot came from, like,
Speaker 2: that's strand of.
Speaker 4: Owens is the most recent episode. Yeah, I know people
Speaker 4: think that I'm not actually listening to Candice Owens. I'm
Speaker 4: just kidding clips No, No, I actually am watching everything
Speaker 4: she puts out so I can look and see is
Speaker 4: she actually speaking truth or is she just throwing her
Speaker 4: own bias on it for the clicks like that. I'm
Speaker 4: just so we're clear. I am actually watching the entire
Speaker 4: episode that she puts out, almost on a daily basis.
Speaker 4: It seemed for a minute there she's taking a break
Speaker 4: right now. But that being said from her, and if
Speaker 4: you could call her truth, you can call her bias,
Speaker 4: you can call her a lie whatever. According to her,
Speaker 4: it is now confirmed that he was shot from the front,
Speaker 4: and that's from all of her research and the autopsy
Speaker 4: and the things that weren't done but allegedly were done
Speaker 4: or whatever else. Now it wasn't from a thirty odd six.
Speaker 4: So like everybody myself included, who was saying, there was
Speaker 4: no way that that was a thirty odd six bullet
Speaker 4: that did this, but the doctor is saying that, yes,
Speaker 4: the bullet was lodged in his bones. He was very healthy,
Speaker 4: he had very dense bones and somehow, through some miraculous means,
Speaker 4: it got lodged in, so there is no exit wound.
Speaker 4: This is all allegedly been confirmed by Candace Ollans, so
Speaker 4: say what you want about it. So it definitely was
Speaker 4: from the front, but it definitely wasn't the Now that
Speaker 4: we know that where the bullet was stopped and where
Speaker 4: it entered his body, we have a three angle, they're
Speaker 4: actually starting to look at it in that way.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't know why Candace's name is
Speaker 2: the only one that ever even gets brought up as
Speaker 2: far as speculation about Charlie Kirk. Yeah, maybe she has
Speaker 2: like such a large listener base that the majority of
Speaker 2: people really value her opinion. But there are thousands of
Speaker 2: podcasters out there that are mentioning and talking about this
Speaker 2: whole Charlie Kirk thing. So to only go back to
Speaker 2: Candace owns, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 5: Oh, I agree. I listened to a bunch of them.
Speaker 7: Dude.
Speaker 4: There's one that like heavy on country, love his content,
Speaker 4: and he is saying very similar things Candace is saying
Speaker 4: a lot of things. Yet there's tons there's tons of podcasts,
Speaker 4: there's tons of conspiracy podcasts.
Speaker 5: Everybody's got their own opinion.
Speaker 4: But yes, everybody is acting like Candas is the fucking
Speaker 4: source to end off sources. And it's like, you realize,
Speaker 4: she hasn't named a single source ever.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say, is that like she's
Speaker 2: just a name in the conspiracy realm. She's by no
Speaker 2: means anybody's leader. I mean, maybe she has a little
Speaker 2: bit more connections because she actually, you know, was friends
Speaker 2: with Charlie and in their crowd of people. But like,
Speaker 2: by no means does she represent an entire community of
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists.
Speaker 4: No she does not, but Lord have mercy, people think
Speaker 4: of this. She does. She is being seen as the
Speaker 4: queen for all these uh what they called gropers. I
Speaker 4: think that's the new neighbors or gross some rap Yeah,
Speaker 4: that is, that is their queen dog. So like, okay,
Speaker 4: do your fucking research, man, Like you don't have to
Speaker 4: always take somebody's word for it.
Speaker 2: Do your own research. Whenever it comes to any conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody will plant the seed and you decide whether
Speaker 2: you want to apply a little sunlight and a little
Speaker 2: bit of water as far as you know that seed
Speaker 2: growing within your mind and your understanding, but by no
Speaker 2: means should somebody be speaking on your behalf. Like that's
Speaker 2: literally the idea of being a conspiracy theorist is you
Speaker 2: being an open minded like individual and you not following
Speaker 2: a crowd. And at least that's what we try and promote,
Speaker 2: is to open up your third eye. Literally we say
Speaker 2: it at the end of every episode. Opening up your
Speaker 2: third eye does not mean just following us. It means you,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe pulling from some of the things
Speaker 2: that maybe we mention, but like for us to be
Speaker 2: anybody's lord and savior in God and you know, leader
Speaker 2: or anything like that, I don't think you should be
Speaker 2: looking at any of these people, including us like that.
Speaker 4: No agreed, And again I know that I've it sounds
Speaker 4: like I'm throwing a lot of hatred towards Candice. I
Speaker 4: don't hate her. I think that she is an excellent
Speaker 4: content creator. I think that she has a lot of
Speaker 4: investigative journalists style ways about her, which you know how
Speaker 4: I feel about journalists. So I mean, take that with
Speaker 4: a grain of salt. But even still, if you look
Speaker 4: at the last like twenty claims that she's made, she
Speaker 4: showed receipts for one of them, which is the text messages,
Speaker 4: which like everybody's like, see, she was right all along,
Speaker 4: she was right about a thing a thing. And how
Speaker 4: many times, Jonathan, have you even said a broken clock
Speaker 4: is right? Twice a day? Like that's a that's a
Speaker 4: you quote.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even want people following me the way that
Speaker 2: they follow Candace, to be honest, it's insane. That's it's
Speaker 2: a fucking cold is really. It's like people that are
Speaker 2: like see Alex Jones said it, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: the Simpsons said it too. You're gonna fucking follow the
Speaker 2: producers of that show, you know.
Speaker 4: Like some people, Yes, dude, some people really are. It's
Speaker 4: mind blowing, so weird. Anyway, let's continue, Let's get back
Speaker 4: to it here. This is again the video continuing from
Speaker 4: Crime with Nea. They want to mention the whole cops
Speaker 4: shooting that happened at the Ice Detention Center in Texas,
Speaker 4: showing that these people absolutely were affiliated with Antifa, showing
Speaker 4: that they have organization and that they are there to
Speaker 4: commit acts of violence if they were there just as
Speaker 4: a protest, like the guy who was supposed to be
Speaker 4: there but wasn't that day or whatever, just to protest them.
Speaker 5: Why do they bring fireworks and weapons.
Speaker 4: They brought the fireworks to draw out the cops, then
Speaker 4: brought the weapons to shoot the cops. That's not something
Speaker 4: that somebody just decided to do for the fuck of it.
Speaker 4: It's this whole thing is organized and coordinated, which would
Speaker 4: lead anybody with a brainstem to show that, No, they
Speaker 4: do have a hierarchy. They do have shot callers that
Speaker 4: tell you how to do things and what to do.
Speaker 4: They do teach you how to shoot, how to build explosives,
Speaker 4: how to build better Molotov cocktails and all these things.
Speaker 4: And again, the money trail doesn't lie. Let's continue.
Speaker 11: The riots in ninety nine, And yeah, I was.
Speaker 10: I was ready to go, man, I had I had
Speaker 10: little Molotov cocktails in my bedroom and a coffee of
Speaker 10: the Anarchist cookbook that I had photoshopped or photo coffee.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 11: It was just at the time, you know, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 11: this is just a good time. And it's only later
Speaker 11: on that you get more involved with the ideas, the philosophies,
Speaker 11: the you know, a direct action.
Speaker 12: But if belief fuels the fight, money keeps it alive
Speaker 12: and the trail of donations, shell charities and cash is
Speaker 12: what will bring them down. While analyzing the arrests in Georgia,
Speaker 12: treasury analysts noticed something odd. A small nonprofit registered to
Speaker 12: a single PO box in Atlanta had processed thousands of
Speaker 12: micro donations labeled bail support, But when investigators compared those
Speaker 12: transactions to receipts recovered at the raid sites, the numbers
Speaker 12: matched purchases for gas cans, camping fuel, and tactical gloves.
Speaker 12: That discovery opened a new front in the investigation. Following
Speaker 12: tactical gloves, That discovery opened a new front in the
Speaker 12: investigation following the money. Every dollar, it turned out, left
Speaker 12: a fingerprint. Funds moved from crowdfunding pages into community aid accounts,
Speaker 12: then dispersed through encrypted payment apps. They made sure to
Speaker 12: move money small enough to look harmless and quick enough
Speaker 12: to vanish before oversight caught up. In New York, a
Speaker 12: sister nonprofit repeated the same pattern. Publicly, it promoted environmental justice. Privately,
Speaker 12: prosecutors say it reimbursed out of state travelers heading to
Speaker 12: direct action zones. The system was a fit because it
Speaker 12: was decentralized. There was no single treasurer. No headquarters, just
Speaker 12: shared templates circulating through chat servers. Every cell slash hub
Speaker 12: handled its own intake, then sent surpluses to a rotating
Speaker 12: list of trusted collectives. But that wasn't all they found.
Speaker 12: Agents tracing crypto wallets also found conversion points at foreign exchanges.
Speaker 12: Small amounts in larger sums out converted back to cash
Speaker 12: within days. It's a form of micro laundering, kind of
Speaker 12: like the digital version of passing bills through too many
Speaker 12: hands to trace. When the search warrants came down, law
Speaker 12: enforcement found more ledgers and USB drives that backed up
Speaker 12: their claims. They found donations from sympathetic supporters, blended with
Speaker 12: reimbursements for travel, bail, and protective equipment. On spreadsheet tallied
Speaker 12: just over three hundred ten thousand dollars in under six months.
Speaker 12: That evidence now forms the backbone of the federal financial
Speaker 12: crimes case. To stop it, the Justice Department has turned
Speaker 12: to its white collar units. Instead of chasing massed protesters,
Speaker 12: agents are freezing accounts, subpoenaing payment processors, and dismantling the
Speaker 12: flow one transaction at a time. For the network, losing
Speaker 12: money means losing movement. For investigators. It's the first real
Speaker 12: leverage point, a way to dismantle an organization that refuses
Speaker 12: to admit it exists, and they use that leverage the
Speaker 12: best way they knew how. Now that they knew their structure, finance,
Speaker 12: and ideology, law enforcement stopped wasting time. By Midsummer, DHS
Speaker 12: and the FBI had a new directive. Instead of waiting
Speaker 12: for riots to ignite before moving in and arresting them,
Speaker 12: agents would intercept the operations before they hit the streets.
Speaker 12: They called it pre incident interdiction. The FBI and DHS
Speaker 12: formed a task force armed with the list of the
Speaker 12: facilitators within ANTIFA. These are the top guys, the people
Speaker 12: renting vans, buying bulk materials, running the encrypted message hubs.
Speaker 12: In Dallas, surveillance teams shadowed a suspected logistics coordinator for
Speaker 12: three weeks before moving in. Agents seized a laptop, hard drives,
Speaker 12: and a binder of passwords, data later used to identify
Speaker 12: multiple safehouses. In Portland, Homeland Security Special Rest re Sponse
Speaker 12: team rated a converted warehouse believed to be a distribution
Speaker 12: point for protective gear and cash disbursements. The operation took
Speaker 12: six minutes and While the arrests were ongoing, something else
Speaker 12: was unraveling behind the scenes. The Department of Justice built
Speaker 12: a joint intelligence cell to collate all the information they've
Speaker 12: gathered so far on Antifa financial records, digital evidence, field reportworts.
Speaker 12: The aim was to transform their seemingly unorganized chaos into
Speaker 12: a prosecutable chain, and it worked. Prosecutions began merging under
Speaker 12: federal conspiracy statutes, and judges started approving expanded surveillance warrants
Speaker 12: for online coordination. Still, even with arrest mounting, officials warned
Speaker 12: the campaign wasn't over. Agents reported there's been talk of retaliation,
Speaker 12: smaller cells threatening sympathetic action if leaders were jailed. So
Speaker 12: to counter that, DHS embedded liaison officers inside local police departments,
Speaker 12: linking intelligence in real time. Every new arrest triggered automatic
Speaker 12: digit sweeps for copycat plots, and for the first time,
Speaker 12: the government was moving faster than the network. But the
Speaker 12: officials behind the crackdown, no momentum can cut both ways.
Speaker 12: Every takedown can fuel the narrative that the state fears dissent,
Speaker 12: exactly the kind of thing extremists need to recruit again.
Speaker 4: Okay, so let's continue on the government is cracking down
Speaker 4: on this terror group, which President Trump has already said
Speaker 4: that the cartels are now listed as a terrorist organization Antifa,
Speaker 4: who absolutely, as we just saw, you could follow the
Speaker 4: trail of money, the crypto exchanges, because they do leave
Speaker 4: a digital footprint all of these things collectively.
Speaker 5: They are not just a.
Speaker 4: Group that is out here to protest. There are you know,
Speaker 4: mostly peaceful. No, they might have the appearance of being disorganized.
Speaker 4: And that's all by design because if you just see
Speaker 4: a bunch of kids out there throwing shit, and when
Speaker 4: I say kids, I mean young twenty year olds, right,
Speaker 4: you see them throwing shit? Oh well, that's just a
Speaker 4: college protest that happens from time to time. You know,
Speaker 4: those youngsters are kind of crazy. Now you couple that
Speaker 4: now with the fact that they were paid to go there,
Speaker 4: Their travel was reimbursed, the protective equipment that they are
Speaker 4: wearing was bought for them, the things that.
Speaker 5: They are using to make the Molotov cocktails.
Speaker 4: And I understand somebody's gonna say, well, a Molokov talktail
Speaker 4: isn't the same thing as like an ied and okay,
Speaker 4: that's fair.
Speaker 5: It's not explosive, but it is something that can be used.
Speaker 4: For destruction of property and or personnel, either way you
Speaker 4: want to call it, it's a weapon.
Speaker 5: That that's the fact of the matter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to crime with Nia Man. What a
Speaker 4: what a great video of putting that all together. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean the facts are there.
Speaker 2: I mean, so let me ask you, Jacob, whenever you
Speaker 2: see all these mainstream media talking heads, you know, saying
Speaker 2: that Antifa doesn't exist, are they just you know, parroting
Speaker 2: what other mainstream media heads are saying. Or do you
Speaker 2: believe that whoever is can constructing Antifa and putting money
Speaker 2: in these accounts to buy you know, whether it be
Speaker 2: weapons or bricks or what have you like? Do you
Speaker 2: believe that Antifa the organizers, somehow, some way have control
Speaker 2: of mainstream media in that sense that are causing them
Speaker 2: to repeat the same rhetoric.
Speaker 5: Not necessarily.
Speaker 4: What I believe is that the funders of Antifa, and
Speaker 4: we're going to get to one of them that just
Speaker 4: fled the country again. We've named them a few times here,
Speaker 4: but we'll get there in a moment. I believe that
Speaker 4: the mainstream media that is saying that Antifa doesn't exist,
Speaker 4: they're being told to say this by their benefactors, and
Speaker 4: I don't believe that the benefactors are necessarily connected to Antifa.
Speaker 4: I believe that those wealthy benefactors are using Antifa as
Speaker 4: the useful idiots, which is talked about in the Communist
Speaker 4: Manifesto right matter of fact, which would be a Soros
Speaker 4: kind of thing, Like it would make sense that it's
Speaker 4: not to say that Soros is Antifa, but he's definitely
Speaker 4: funding them. I think that he might be funding the
Speaker 4: media's portrayal of them, but I'm not saying that Soros
Speaker 4: is actually funding Antifa itself. Because if this organization is
Speaker 4: able to amass their own funding and their own organization
Speaker 4: without Soros needing to even put his hand in that.
Speaker 5: Pie, then all right, you let them kids do the
Speaker 5: kid thing.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna handle this stuff on the news, and you
Speaker 4: are all gonna mention that Antifa is not that big
Speaker 4: of a deal, and that's just what we're gonna do here.
Speaker 4: That's where Soros comes in. I think that he supports
Speaker 4: them as far as their message and their movement goes,
Speaker 4: and at least what they're doing, because it furthers his
Speaker 4: means and his aims. But I don't think as of
Speaker 4: this moment that Soros actually has any real hardline financial
Speaker 4: ties to Antifa.
Speaker 2: What's that that weird looking rapper that he has all
Speaker 2: the different color hair and he wears the different colored
Speaker 2: teeth and the face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, fucking punk bitch too, we read it.
Speaker 2: I mean I heard him say something pretty interesting about
Speaker 2: like how back in twenty twenty or twenty nineteen somewhere
Speaker 2: around there, that he basically bought you know, his music
Speaker 2: to go to the top of the Billboard charts, right,
Speaker 2: and that's how he became. You know, what he eventually
Speaker 2: became was that he bought you know, the top of
Speaker 2: the charts. And if he wouldn't have done that, he
Speaker 2: would have just been in any other rapper, right, Like,
Speaker 2: no big deal. You know, he's just singing about and
Speaker 2: rapping about whatever he feels. But you apply money to that,
Speaker 2: and you'll apply viewed like viewership to that. Now all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, people are interested in him, They start
Speaker 2: following him a little bit more, maybe they listen to
Speaker 2: whatever he talks about on social media or whatever. I
Speaker 2: think that that is kind of the playbook in essence
Speaker 2: of what is going on with these terrorist organizations such
Speaker 2: as Antifa.
Speaker 4: They could just be.
Speaker 2: You know, a couple of punks that have some anti
Speaker 2: fascist ideology, right but you but you infuse money into that,
Speaker 2: and now they're a lot more dangerous and they're not
Speaker 2: just a couple of pun kids anymore. It becomes something
Speaker 2: much bigger. It becomes not just a group. There's a
Speaker 2: group growing up here. There's a group grown over here.
Speaker 2: There's a group grown over here. Because it that movement,
Speaker 2: it almost becomes like.
Speaker 4: It's very similar to the Black Lives Matter movement, the
Speaker 4: protests that the people walking the streets were saying that like,
Speaker 4: black lives matter, okay, fine, that was at the beginning
Speaker 4: of it, a peaceful protest and they were protesting the
Speaker 4: unlawful killing of black people by police.
Speaker 5: That was their overall message.
Speaker 4: But things went very very sideways whenever, like you said,
Speaker 4: money got involved with it. The BLM donations started flooding in,
Speaker 4: and it wasn't small amounts, and at first it was
Speaker 4: to get it was to pay bail money for protesters
Speaker 4: that were arrested, as they saw unlawfully arrested for a
Speaker 4: quote unquote peaceful protest. But it didn't stay peaceful for long, right,
Speaker 4: It didn't, and yeah, we could talk about how the
Speaker 4: three letter agencies infiltrate it to make it worse, and like,
Speaker 4: I'm not denying that whatsoever. But when you look Antifa,
Speaker 4: I am of the belief as of this moment, that
Speaker 4: it's possible George Soros is also funding them.
Speaker 5: I'm not denying that that's a possibility.
Speaker 4: For sure, not even a possibility. It's been documented by
Speaker 4: people within the group, But I feel like Soros is
Speaker 4: more aligned with the media side of it than the
Speaker 4: boots on the ground and the bricks on the street
Speaker 4: kind of thing. Antifa is so well funded and well,
Speaker 4: they're autonomous, they can operate at small, sleeper cell type
Speaker 4: of situations because of the hierarchical chain. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 4: my point is is that you know they're they're useful
Speaker 4: fucking idiots, right, Like the Soros sees them as the
Speaker 4: useful idiots for his means of trying to make the
Speaker 4: downfall of America and making it a communist dystopia.
Speaker 2: So now it has you look in almost at the
Speaker 2: Hegelian dialect and reverse right, like, what's the solution to
Speaker 2: all of this? Right, because obviously there's something to gain
Speaker 2: whenever there is riots in the streets and there's no
Speaker 2: narratives being pushed, you know, like what was to gain
Speaker 2: from Black Lives Matter?
Speaker 13: What?
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the grassroots you know, startup of it,
Speaker 4: But what was to gain from you know, uh, funding it?
Speaker 4: What was to gain from uh, you know, the the
Speaker 4: weird bricks that were.
Speaker 2: Being thrown out there, Like you know, you can loot
Speaker 2: and you can you know, throw milotov cocktails, and you
Speaker 2: can cause riots, and you can go into these you know,
Speaker 2: patriot fucking prayer groups or whatever, right, but like what
Speaker 2: is to gain from people that cause a disturbance in that?
Speaker 4: That's my question? Is it is it really just to
Speaker 4: you know, is it order out of chaos? Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it another page out of the old Magician's playbook?
Speaker 2: Like is it something like that to where all right,
Speaker 2: we're gonna cause so much chaos that now we have
Speaker 2: the right to implement these new laws, these this surveillance, right,
Speaker 2: Like could this be big brother trying to become a
Speaker 2: bigger brother?
Speaker 3: And if if that's the case, then I think.
Speaker 2: That uh, uh you know, we're we're we're kind of
Speaker 2: looking we're looking in the wrong direction, Like because here's
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 3: The the the narratives that are that are usually pushed
Speaker 3: are not.
Speaker 2: Usually I mean they're like everybody looks at BLM and
Speaker 2: all the riots, and everybody looks at Antifa and all
Speaker 2: the riots and all that shit, and that's where all
Speaker 2: the attention is going, right, Like, that's the role of
Speaker 2: a magician is to take your attention and get it
Speaker 2: in a certain direction, right like look over here, not
Speaker 2: over here, right in that in that traditional sense of
Speaker 2: being a magician, whereas you know, what's what are they
Speaker 2: really trying to push as a result of all of
Speaker 2: these riots and everything? And I believe that we should
Speaker 2: be looking at either somebody banking on the downfall of America,
Speaker 2: which you know, maybe that's the overarching thing. Maybe somebody
Speaker 2: is trying to you know, make make money off of it,
Speaker 2: almost like shorting America, as George Soros has shorted many
Speaker 2: other countries. I mean, just look into Soros, right, Like
Speaker 2: He's made his billions of dollars by literally bankrupting countries
Speaker 2: and through the stock market and market manipulation and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. My question is is that, like, is that
Speaker 2: really the goal? Are they trying to bring down America?
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, then oh man, we got
Speaker 2: a fucking hot puppy on our hands if that's the case,
Speaker 2: or is it to try and implement big brother like
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm talking about five D chess here, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: like you at the time, if you're only watching the
Speaker 2: moves that the pawn is making, you're making a mistake.
Speaker 3: Like anybody that's ever played chess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to pay attention to where the where
Speaker 2: the pawns are being moved, But nobody actually believes that
Speaker 2: that pawn is going to make it all the way
Speaker 2: across the board and turn itself into a queen.
Speaker 4: Like very rarely does that happen in a chess game.
Speaker 4: Let me put it to football for you. Okay, So
Speaker 4: quarterback hikes the ball. Okay. Now, you got a guy
Speaker 4: on the O line and his job, his function is
Speaker 4: to do what block? Okay?
Speaker 5: His job is to block?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 5: Is that the entire point of the game.
Speaker 4: No, right, He's doing his job so that the quarterback
Speaker 4: can do his job, and that is to what either
Speaker 4: pass it or hand it off okay, to advance the ball? Sure, okay,
Speaker 4: and then you're advancing the ball okay. Now, is that
Speaker 4: the entire point.
Speaker 2: No, the entire point is to score a touchdown, which
Speaker 2: which I mean the entire point is to win the game,
Speaker 2: which is by outscoring the opponent. Okay, even further, his
Speaker 2: job is to try to make a first down happen, right,
Speaker 2: But the whole point of the football game is to
Speaker 2: not watch a bunch of first downs get done.
Speaker 4: The point is to watch touchdowns get scored. But that's
Speaker 4: not even the point of the game, Jonathan. The point
Speaker 4: is for your team to win. The coach who is
Speaker 4: calling the shots that o lineman, the coach is gonna
Speaker 4: get in his ass and make sure that he's blocking.
Speaker 5: But that's not the entire point.
Speaker 4: He's gonna get in the quarterbacks ass to make the pass,
Speaker 4: but that's not the whole point. He's gonna get in
Speaker 4: the whole team's ass to make a first down.
Speaker 5: But that's not the point.
Speaker 4: Multiple things are happening at the exact same time to
Speaker 4: try to further the overall goal, which is winning the game.
Speaker 5: Does that make sense.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you the Steeler way. Okay, let me
Speaker 2: give you a little insight.
Speaker 4: Lose, lose, and then blame everybody else. That is the
Speaker 4: Steeler way.
Speaker 3: No, actually we're four and one, so fucking need a dick.
Speaker 2: But but as far as at least the Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: Steer Steeler ero right now, Aaron Rodgers, do you know
Speaker 2: what he's most known for, Like as far as his
Speaker 2: play tactics, like hena say, I mean, yeah, he's a
Speaker 2: four time MVP, he's won a Super Bowl or maybe.
Speaker 3: I can't remember how many suit I think just one.
Speaker 3: I think he lost one.
Speaker 2: But either way, like he is known as being the
Speaker 2: master of play action. Nobody does play action better than
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, right, which is great because if your if
Speaker 2: your game plan is run, run, run, run, run, and
Speaker 2: and because the idea is is that you want to
Speaker 2: keep on pounding the rock right up the middle.
Speaker 3: That way it opens.
Speaker 2: Up the the perm or for you to be able
Speaker 2: to pass it down the field. But you can't just
Speaker 2: drop back and pass every time, because then the defense
Speaker 2: is going to go into cover two, Cover three, cover four.
Speaker 2: They're gonna put more you know, uh, nickelbacks and dinbacks
Speaker 2: out there. Right, Like, the idea is that you want
Speaker 2: the run defense up against your passing attack. And so
Speaker 2: you run the ball so many fucking times, and then
Speaker 2: you implement a play action, which a play action for
Speaker 2: anybody that doesn't know, is a fake hand off to
Speaker 2: the running back. The quarterback rolls out and finds a
Speaker 2: receiver down the field. That's the idea. It's it is.
Speaker 2: It's a fucking magic trick. Is what play action actually
Speaker 2: should be if it's carried out the right way. What
Speaker 2: I'm suggesting is is that, And I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: I think that Antifa is the play action, because could
Speaker 2: be it's selling the run. That's whether they're thinking to run.
Speaker 4: Yes, they have to do their portion so that guy
Speaker 4: over here can do his portion, so that dude down
Speaker 4: the field can do his portion. Does that make sense. Yeah,
Speaker 4: multiple things can be true at the exact same time,
Speaker 4: and all of them are going towards the overall goal
Speaker 4: of winning the game.
Speaker 2: So a football analogy, maybe I can go on all
Speaker 2: day about that, but I knew that you'd be able
Speaker 2: to pick up on what I was putting down that way. Right,
Speaker 2: this person is doing their job, and that's absolutely what's
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 4: But then this other person is doing their thing. This
Speaker 4: person is doing their thing. It's all a part of
Speaker 4: a collective, right, And it may seem like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: his only goal is to block. His only goal is
Speaker 4: to get open. His only goal is to make a pass.
Speaker 4: These three conversations could be completely independent of each other,
Speaker 4: but they're fucking not, dude. Compartmentalized, compartmentalized, but connected.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, towards one goal.
Speaker 2: Everybody's job is compartmentalized, but it's all working towards one goal.
Speaker 4: Yes, So this is what I believe. Antifa is one
Speaker 4: of the players on the field. They're not even the
Speaker 4: whole team. Fuck, they wish they were the whole fucking
Speaker 4: team they think they are. They talk to an O
Speaker 4: lineman and I promise you he will tell you the like, bro,
Speaker 4: without me, there ain't no game. I'm gonna straight talk
Speaker 4: to a wide receiver without me, we ain't win. And
Speaker 4: talk to a quarterback, bro without me, how are we
Speaker 4: gonna make Every one of them thinks that the game
Speaker 4: revolves around them performing their job to the best, and
Speaker 4: that is true and also not true. At the same time.
Speaker 4: It's about the team, everybody doing their thing at the
Speaker 4: same time. But if you talk to the individual, they're
Speaker 4: gonna tell you completely different stories, right right right.
Speaker 3: Each individual has to do their job in order for
Speaker 3: the play to work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we talk about Antifa versus the media, versus
Speaker 4: the talking heads, the Jimmy Kimmel out here talking about
Speaker 4: they're not real.
Speaker 5: He's playing his role.
Speaker 4: He's doing what he was told by his coach, if
Speaker 4: you will. Antifa is going to these places to commit
Speaker 4: of course just acts of protest, but of course their
Speaker 4: acts to violence and them doing the molotov cocktails, carrying weapons,
Speaker 4: the tactically whole nine, the money that is being transferred
Speaker 4: on this end. Talk that with the media and Soros
Speaker 4: pushing his agenda, they are all playing at their space
Speaker 4: specific job role to further the means to win the game.
Speaker 2: And they all think that they're the one that is
Speaker 2: the most important player, you know, yes, and even just
Speaker 2: not gonna bring it, I fuck it, I'll bring it there.
Speaker 2: Like Trump thinks that he's the most important player in this,
Speaker 2: don't you think, Oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he's got main character syndrome. But I mean
Speaker 4: to be fair with you, he's had that since like
Speaker 4: seventy five, right, right, which.
Speaker 2: If you're an orchestrator, you know, of the entire game,
Speaker 2: you want him to believe that, Like if you're trying
Speaker 2: to control somebody, you don't control them. By by pushing
Speaker 2: them against their will, you play into their fucking hand
Speaker 2: so they carry out whatever your bigger picture plan actually is.
Speaker 2: And so if you think about it and just looking
Speaker 2: at this White House fucking website, Oh I get amped
Speaker 2: up about this, but just looking at his at this
Speaker 2: White House website, and you know it has the the
Speaker 2: the the emblem of the bird carrying the olive branch.
Speaker 3: And what's the other thing is that a ch arrows?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you got forty five and forty seven, right,
Speaker 2: and obviously he was president in forty five and president
Speaker 2: forty seven, which you know, just to bring back old
Speaker 2: Brandon Kroll on this situation, you think about, you know,
Speaker 2: the the numerology of it, forty five or four plus
Speaker 2: five is nine, four plus seven is eleven. Right, you
Speaker 2: got him in consecutive order like that. So nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: if you're just looking at the numerology, what happened more
Speaker 2: than anything else as far as nine to eleven goes,
Speaker 2: you would say that that's where mass surveillance was installed, right,
Speaker 2: Like there was never a bigger like push for surveillance.
Speaker 2: Then in nine to eleven, and then you get President
Speaker 2: Trump who is aligning with all of these big, big
Speaker 2: brother companies right, Like you got fucking Oracle, you know,
Speaker 2: that is monitoring everything and data collecting on all the
Speaker 2: social media apps. Everything that you see on social media
Speaker 2: has gone through the filter of Oracle, Like that's fact
Speaker 2: and the algorithms and the information that it's picking up.
Speaker 2: I think that they're using Trump for an even more
Speaker 2: dystopian surveillance kind of push that's going to be happening,
Speaker 2: without a doubt.
Speaker 4: I see forty five and forty seven, and I think
Speaker 4: ninety two, which is the year that old Billiam Clinton
Speaker 4: took office, which goes down a whole other rabbit hole
Speaker 4: to me personally interesting. Yeah, yeah, Look, we can have
Speaker 4: all these kinds of conversations, but we're sticking on to
Speaker 4: the Antifa or for this episode.
Speaker 3: Just had to get a little conspiratorial there for a second.
Speaker 5: Of course, is what we do.
Speaker 4: Bro all the way open, baby, let's talk about this
Speaker 4: is the White House Press relief designating Antifa as a
Speaker 4: domestic terrorist organization. This is from September twenty second of
Speaker 4: this year. Let's fucking go Section one. Antifa as a
Speaker 4: terrorist threat. Antifa is a militarist anarchist enterprise that explicitly
Speaker 4: explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States government,
Speaker 4: law enforcement authorities, and our system of law. It uses
Speaker 4: illegal means to or organize and execute campaigns of violence
Speaker 4: and terrorism nationwide to accomplish these goals. This campaign involves
Speaker 4: coordinated efforts to obstruct enforcement of federal laws through armed
Speaker 4: standoffs with law enforcement, organized riot, violent assaults on immigration
Speaker 4: and custom enforcement and other law enforcement officers, and routine
Speaker 4: dosing of and other threats against political figures and activists.
Speaker 4: ANTIFA recruits, trains, and radicalizes young Americans to engage in
Speaker 4: this violence and suppression of political activity, then employs elaborate
Speaker 4: means and mechanisms to shield the identities of its operatives,
Speaker 4: conceal its funding sources and operations in an effort to
Speaker 4: frustrate law enforcement, and recruit additional members. Individuals associated with
Speaker 4: and acting on behalf of Antifa further coordinate with other
Speaker 4: organizations and entities for the purpose of spreading, fomenting, and
Speaker 4: advancing political violence and suppressing lawful political speech. This organized effort,
Speaker 4: designed to achieve policy objectives by coercion and intimidation, is
Speaker 4: direct domestic terrorism. Agreed one hundred percent let's continue.
Speaker 2: Section two says designation as a domestic terrorist organization because
Speaker 2: of the aforemation pattern of political violence designed to suppress
Speaker 2: lawful political activity and obstruct the rule of law. I
Speaker 2: hereby designate Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization. All relevant
Speaker 2: Executive Departments and agencies shall utilize all applicable authorities to investigate, disrupt,
Speaker 2: and dismantle any and all illegal operations, especially those involving
Speaker 2: terrorist actions conducted by Antifa or any person claiming to
Speaker 2: act on behalf of Antifa, or for which Antifa or
Speaker 2: any person claiming to act on behalf of Antifa provided
Speaker 2: material support, including necessary investigative, investigatory, and prosecutorial actions against
Speaker 2: those who fund such operations. So yeah, full onng on
Speaker 2: terrorist group is what the Trump cabinet is labeling at
Speaker 2: They're basically.
Speaker 4: Saying any and all organizations within the United States government
Speaker 4: or law offices have complete authority to just pull them
Speaker 4: up by the roots.
Speaker 2: Section three General provisions. This Order shall be implemented consistent
Speaker 2: with applicable law. This Order is not intended to, and
Speaker 2: does not create any right or benefit substantive or procedural,
Speaker 2: enforceable at law or in equity by any party against
Speaker 2: the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, agents,
Speaker 2: or any other person. So indeed, indeed it says this
Speaker 2: order shall be published in the Federal Register by Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: That was all by Trump.
Speaker 4: Indeed, now a few days later again, that was published
Speaker 4: out there for the public on September twenty second, Right
Speaker 4: now October eighth, which is shoot. I'm trying to think
Speaker 4: there's a few days ago as a time of recording,
Speaker 4: five days ago. Actually Portland fake news ignores Antifa violence
Speaker 4: and residents please for help. Now. Depending on which new
Speaker 4: source you listen to subscribe to watch, whatever the case,
Speaker 4: a lot of Portland residents will say, man, there's no
Speaker 4: problem here. Where's all the violence, where's the protest? Where's
Speaker 4: all this craziness that the news is showing you. Then
Speaker 4: on the other side, they will show shots being fired,
Speaker 4: things on fire. There's a siege right now over the
Speaker 4: Ice Agency in Portland, Oregon as we speak. Antifa members
Speaker 4: have basically barricaded the building down and the agents inside
Speaker 4: can't get out unless they break their way out of
Speaker 4: the lines. And this is not something that is a
Speaker 4: peaceful protest by any means we got videos will play
Speaker 4: here in a bit. But yeah, so this is now
Speaker 4: a White House press release talking about how the uh,
Speaker 4: the media and again a lot of Soros funding goes
Speaker 4: towards the media are portraying one side of this conversation
Speaker 4: rather than the entirety. Let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, Susan, just because you live in a
Speaker 2: house that is in a private, gated community does not
Speaker 2: mean that it's not happening in your town. Fucking look
Speaker 2: out a window, you know, maybe a walk down the street.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like some people they only believe what's
Speaker 2: right in front of them. And you know, it's like,
Speaker 2: what was his name, Bill Hicks? I believe said that?
Speaker 2: Like or no, it wasn't Bill Hicks. George fucking Carlin Carlin.
Speaker 2: He was like, you know what's funny? Or maybe it
Speaker 2: was Bill Hicks, I can't remember either one of them
Speaker 2: said it. He goes, you know what's funny is you
Speaker 2: turn on your TV and there's there's a war being
Speaker 2: breaking out in the Middle East and the stock market
Speaker 2: is taking an absolute shit and people are riding in
Speaker 2: the streets and he goes, you know what what's funny
Speaker 2: is is you turn that TV off and you open
Speaker 2: up the blinds, you look out the window and you see, man,
Speaker 2: it really isn't all that right, Like, yeah, all that
Speaker 2: shit's really going on, but is it going on to you?
Speaker 4: You know? So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just want to throw it out there that like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there is bullshit in the world, but like you know,
Speaker 2: it's not happening to literally everybody and just to an
Speaker 2: individual you know, standpoint, Like you know, you don't want
Speaker 2: to get super sucked down that rabbit hole because as
Speaker 2: soon as you do, like you're brought into something that
Speaker 2: is happening afar and it it you see, like people
Speaker 2: developing crazy like anxious anxieties because of all this. It's like, man,
Speaker 2: just go take a walk, like forget about it for
Speaker 2: a second. To be honest with you, Like it's for
Speaker 2: your fucking mental health, you know, take a walk.
Speaker 4: Just start carrying a weapon, and it's no longer your
Speaker 4: fucking problem. It can become someone else's problem real fucking quick.
Speaker 4: But like it's no longer something you need to be
Speaker 4: scared of. It's so simple.
Speaker 3: You need you need a little pimp cannon in your pocket.
Speaker 4: At all times. You might catch me. You ain't gonna
Speaker 4: catch me slipping just the way it goes, so it says.
Speaker 2: For years, an Antifa lead hell fire has turned Portland
Speaker 2: into a wasteland of fire, bombs, beatings, and brazen attacks
Speaker 2: on federal officers and property. Yet the fake news remain
Speaker 2: remains in shameful denial about the radical left rain of error.
Speaker 2: By the way, this is still the White House website.
Speaker 2: That's why as President Donald J. Trump mobilizes federal resources
Speaker 2: to safeguard lives and property, the White House is hosting
Speaker 2: today the fearless independent journalists who have long risked their
Speaker 2: own safety to shine a light on Portland's descent into chaos.
Speaker 2: Of course, Portland's own citizens, betrayed by their leaders, are
Speaker 2: sounding the alarm loud and clear, demanding action, while.
Speaker 3: The fake news turns a blind eye.
Speaker 5: And I will say this too before we read.
Speaker 4: Some of these are direct quotes from some of these
Speaker 4: correspondents that were trying to, you know, show what is
Speaker 4: going on in Portland and then got attacked. Bro, you
Speaker 4: can find YouTubers not even associated with some sort of
Speaker 4: mainstream media or anything like that, that will go to
Speaker 4: Portland and for nothing else, just to have a camera
Speaker 4: and a microphone and be like, hey, so what are
Speaker 4: you doing here and what is your purpose? The rioters
Speaker 4: will fucking turn on them and like not just screaming
Speaker 4: their face like so many annoying you know, leftists will
Speaker 4: do with their pussy hats and things, not that they
Speaker 4: will actually start like beating the shit out of them
Speaker 4: and trying to force them to leave. Which, for the record,
Speaker 4: they're not Fox, they're not seeing in, they're not any
Speaker 4: of these things. It's literally a YouTuber who's making content,
Speaker 4: but because he's not one of them, they see him
Speaker 4: as just as equal as their enemy. It's mind blowing. Uh.
Speaker 3: One of them said, it's like a war zone.
Speaker 2: There are times I've had to I've had to have
Speaker 2: a gas mask on inside my own homes as a
Speaker 2: resident near the ice facility under siege in South Portland.
Speaker 2: Deploying the National Guard is one thing I support as
Speaker 2: far as Trump is concerned, because the city is failing
Speaker 2: us and I don't want to feel like I'm collateral
Speaker 2: damage and my rights matter too.
Speaker 5: Could not agree.
Speaker 4: Could you imagine that, Jonathan, being in your own home
Speaker 4: that you've been in for twenty years and now all
Speaker 4: of a sudden you have to wear a gas mask
Speaker 4: inside because the riots are so bad a couple of
Speaker 4: blocks away that the tear gas is actually blowing in
Speaker 4: your neighborhood's direction.
Speaker 5: And you're like, yeah, no, fucking send in the National Guard, bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just listen to the people that are
Speaker 2: living there, you know, Like that's all the proof you
Speaker 2: really need. Another one said one hundred and fifteen days
Speaker 2: of hell. I only come out during the day. You
Speaker 2: see all the black covered Antifa people aren't here. They
Speaker 2: come they come with the night, says another Portland resident.
Speaker 2: In the daytime, it's all these little old senior people
Speaker 2: that think that they're changing the world before they pass
Speaker 2: from this earth. So during the day whatever, let the
Speaker 2: protest be protesters. The fucking ones the Antifa they're coming
Speaker 2: out at night, which makes sense.
Speaker 4: Well that's a part of their plan as well, right.
Speaker 4: It's these little old people that are just holding their
Speaker 4: little signs, and it's like mostly like hippies that are
Speaker 4: just kind of on the board of whatever anti Trump
Speaker 4: thing is going on. That's all. But as soon as
Speaker 4: they go home for the evening, that's when the goons
Speaker 4: come out. They send that's the couch. Yeah, it's one
Speaker 4: hundred percent, and why would you attack these protesters? And
Speaker 4: they'll show a clip from fucking two in the afternoon
Speaker 4: that day where the governor of Oregon is walking the
Speaker 4: streets with the protests, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: you see the clip of the night time when they
Speaker 4: are detaining people, and it's like, see, they're just fascists,
Speaker 4: defund the police, and it's like, no, no, you didn't
Speaker 4: see the entire picture. You saw two clips from twelve
Speaker 4: hours apart from each other, and you're acting like you
Speaker 4: know what you're talking about on.
Speaker 3: Real Yeah, that's fucking that's Hollywood for you.
Speaker 4: It's what Antifa is using to their advantage and what
Speaker 4: I believe Soros is making sure the media plays.
Speaker 2: Another one says, yesterday morning, I was broken. I was
Speaker 2: broken into again for the tenth times as a business
Speaker 2: owner in downtown Portland. We need help here and something
Speaker 2: needs to be done. So if the National Guard is
Speaker 2: what we need to get our leaders paying attention to
Speaker 2: what's happening in Portland, then I think it's a good thing.
Speaker 2: We've been struggling for a long time, since twenty twenty ten.
Speaker 2: Times his shop was broken into ten.
Speaker 4: Times, dude, at that point, like the insurance is gonna
Speaker 4: stop paying.
Speaker 2: Out Yeah, at that point, I mean I would just
Speaker 2: go online with your fucking business, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like, got no idea what kind of business it is.
Speaker 4: But I mean even still, like yo, the insurance company
Speaker 4: is only gonna pay for so many broken windows, like
Speaker 4: they're only going to pay for so much looting and
Speaker 4: so much lost merchandise. Like it's eventually they're gonna see
Speaker 4: you as costing them money rather than making them money,
Speaker 4: and they will just cut your coverage and then good
Speaker 4: luck finding another coverage or another insurance company that's willing
Speaker 4: to give your business coverage. Once you are seen like
Speaker 4: in a hot spot for activity, that's going to be
Speaker 4: a detriment to that organize. Like no, dude's dude.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's the same reason why if
Speaker 2: you go and buy a house in Louisiana, you want
Speaker 2: to make sure you buy a house in flood zone X, right,
Speaker 2: And that's that flood zone X idea is just that
Speaker 2: it's saying, look, the flood never got here, Therefore your
Speaker 2: flood insurance should be way cheaper, and it usually is
Speaker 2: way cheaper. In the flood zone X areas if you
Speaker 2: decide to get flood insurance, but if you are living
Speaker 2: in a fucking area where every time it rains it floods, well,
Speaker 2: either a flood insurance is not even gonna offered to you,
Speaker 2: or B it's gonna be so expensive you're better off
Speaker 2: not even getting it in the first place.
Speaker 4: Bro, think about car insurance. Let's put this to the
Speaker 4: same spectrum here. Let's say you buy a car in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty and you get in ten res in five years.
Speaker 4: Do you think and they're all allegedly your fault according
Speaker 4: to your insurance company, or even if they're not. Even
Speaker 4: if they're not, there's no insurance company. It's gonna be like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: you know, things happen ten fucking times. It's totally no.
Speaker 4: They're gonna tell you either A you don't need to
Speaker 4: insure with us anymore, or B like you are too
Speaker 4: much of a liability on the road, and so this
Speaker 4: business owner the company is gonna tell them, listen, you
Speaker 4: just need to move your business. Either that or whatever
Speaker 4: your business is doing is clearly wrong because you get
Speaker 4: looted this often.
Speaker 5: Like, no, it's this whole conversation.
Speaker 4: What's going on in Portland isn't just like locally a
Speaker 4: Portland problem. This Antifa movement is taking root in so
Speaker 4: many cities across the country, and there are multiple cities
Speaker 4: that are having this type of problem. This article is
Speaker 4: about Portland, but just so we're clear, it's not just
Speaker 4: a localized thing.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, San fran Chicago, Minneapolis, It's going on in
Speaker 2: fucking Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Like it's all over the place. It's crazy. New Orleans yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Actually a bigger one. But was it bigger in Baton
Speaker 3: Rouge or is that just a bigger spectacle?
Speaker 4: Trying to think when Antifa had a presence in Baton Rouge.
Speaker 4: I know that the BLM riots had a little presence
Speaker 4: in Baton Rouge after out in Sterling, Uh, but New
Speaker 4: Orleans has had a couple of Antifa things go down
Speaker 4: to I'm trying to remember if that was because of
Speaker 4: the Civil War General memorials they were trying to take down,
Speaker 4: or if that was because of some sort of other
Speaker 4: police brutality claim or whatever the case was. But yeah,
Speaker 4: any big city, all of them have an Antifa representation there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, they're like fucking maggots.
Speaker 4: Yep. So it goes on.
Speaker 2: Another quote says, we struggle every day every week with
Speaker 2: the crime and the drugs and just the unsafeness that
Speaker 2: comes with being here in our city. Right now, it's
Speaker 2: like our leader have abandoned public safety for us, says
Speaker 2: one Portland coffee shop owner.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, and a coffee shop owner.
Speaker 2: You know, typically those coffee shops are where you don't
Speaker 2: agree with Trump, right, like just putting that out there.
Speaker 2: So they're even getting so desperate to say, look, they
Speaker 2: fucking abandoned us, like they don't even care, they're just
Speaker 2: letting it happen. And then of course you have even
Speaker 2: like over in San Francisco, dude, they'll tell you, dude, look,
Speaker 2: it's just better off leave your car doors unlocked, Like
Speaker 2: leave your car doors unlocked, like if you don't want
Speaker 2: somebody break in your car window, like just leave your
Speaker 2: door unlock, let them take it. And I'm like, I'll
Speaker 2: be goddamned if that happens, right, Like, so it's like
Speaker 2: over in Brazil. Over in Brazil, they'll say, dude, like
Speaker 2: if somebody tries to come up and rob you, just
Speaker 2: let them have it.
Speaker 4: Otherwise they're gonna kill you. It's like there's there should
Speaker 4: be something done about that. We shouldn't just accept this fate.
Speaker 4: That's not right either. And see that's the other bit
Speaker 4: of it. Right. So antifa is a big cap or
Speaker 4: I mean, it's and socialist movement, okay. And the thing
Speaker 4: is that, well, in a democratic socialist society, you still
Speaker 4: have property rights, you still have something that you can
Speaker 4: own and all of these things. But then they'll break
Speaker 4: into your car and steal it from you, and the
Speaker 4: government says, just let them have it, because you're the
Speaker 4: right to your property is more of an idea, it's
Speaker 4: not an actual, inalienable right that you have. So while
Speaker 4: these people are claiming to be full Marxist, they're showing
Speaker 4: that that's not exactly the case.
Speaker 3: I mean, it could's be more obvious.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: The police, I mean, and I can't speak on behalf
Speaker 2: of all police in Portland from the ones that I've
Speaker 2: heard of, they're at least trying, but they don't have
Speaker 2: a long leash.
Speaker 4: And that's the proby get told to stand down. That's
Speaker 4: what I get told. So as a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: oh I wish I would have thought aout it. I
Speaker 4: would have pulled it up, so there's an actual police recording. Jonathan,
Speaker 4: all right, do you understand what the code triple nine means? No?
Speaker 4: All right, So for anybody who doesn't know nine nine
Speaker 4: nine for the radio call, you know, police have like
Speaker 4: different codes for certain situations that are going down.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Triple nine means officer down, okay, or an agent down,
Speaker 4: immediate assistants needed. Essentially, a triple nine means that, like,
Speaker 4: you know, one of our boys just got got and
Speaker 4: we need all everybody bring your whole fucking crew in
Speaker 4: the cavalry. Okay. There was a triple nine call that
Speaker 4: was put out there, and the Portland Police went close
Speaker 4: to the area and then we're told on dispatch it's
Speaker 4: all recorded. The dispatcher told them get near the area
Speaker 4: as quick as you can, but get hold off about
Speaker 4: five blocks away and wait for further instruction, and then
Speaker 4: we're told to go home.
Speaker 2: Now, imagine being one of those police officers and just
Speaker 2: trying to.
Speaker 5: Imagine agents that was for the triple nine call.
Speaker 4: For the record, the Ice agency called the police, but
Speaker 4: it's still a federal agent, so it's still a triple nine.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is imagine being one of those officers,
Speaker 2: are one of those ice agents, and you hear, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: hold off about five blocks back. That to me would say, oh,
Speaker 2: they really don't give a fuck about our lives.
Speaker 4: They don't. And that was done by the mayor. The
Speaker 4: mayor of the city told the cops to like, yeah,
Speaker 4: get hurry up and wait, hurry up and get there
Speaker 4: as quick as you can, but not all the way there,
Speaker 4: and like just hold it there and wait for further instruction. Bro,
Speaker 4: there's currently an insurrection going on at this building. Agents
Speaker 4: need help. Fucking nine to nine nine. Let's go calling
Speaker 4: all units. Disregard that last call, go home to quote
Speaker 4: Kurt Cobain, take your time, hurry up, the choices yours,
Speaker 4: but don't be late, dude.
Speaker 3: That's that's what this fucking sounds like.
Speaker 4: That tells me that the mayor needs to be arrested
Speaker 4: right now. But anyway, anyway, it's a mess, and it's
Speaker 4: not like that's the only time. That's just the first
Speaker 4: one that I heard in the past week, and it
Speaker 4: was actually the dispatch recording showing it. And these cops
Speaker 4: are like, bro, what are we supposed to do here? Like,
Speaker 4: how am I supposed to continue with this career. Whenever
Speaker 4: I'm told to basically hang other agents and other cops
Speaker 4: out to dry because the mayor feels some type of way,
Speaker 4: It's fucking bullshit. Man, This is chaotic, which is probably
Speaker 4: their aim, right, And then they wonder how and why
Speaker 4: these cops are getting shot. Remember the one in Texas
Speaker 4: got shot in the neck in fucking Texas. Bro, go
Speaker 4: ahead and shoot a cop in Texas and let me
Speaker 4: know how that works out for you, bro, Like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: you're out of your goddamn mind. But here in Oregon
Speaker 4: they're showing how and why that is going to start
Speaker 4: taking more place in more big cities. Bro. This is
Speaker 4: I'm blowing.
Speaker 2: This is fucking order out of chaos because I'm telling
Speaker 2: you that's it's exactly what is going on.
Speaker 3: As order out of chaos, absolutely so. But you got
Speaker 3: to create the chaos in order to have some order.
Speaker 4: Indeed, and I believe that is what Antifa is doing.
Speaker 4: They're playing their role of the useful idiots of the
Speaker 4: actual powers that be. They're trying to bring down this
Speaker 4: country into a dystopian communist nation. Another quote says it
Speaker 4: may be the only way if our city and state
Speaker 4: governments are willing are not willing to do their jobs.
Speaker 4: If city governments and police departments are not able to
Speaker 4: protect people, folks are going to look for protection from
Speaker 4: anywhere they can get it, said a Portland man who
Speaker 4: who represents retailers ravaged by crime in the city. For
Speaker 4: those people who do not want federal troops in our streets,
Speaker 4: I would say, start clamoring for your local government to
Speaker 4: protect our property, our businesses, and our lives. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fucking common sense.
Speaker 4: Or just start arming yourself and handle the problem on
Speaker 4: your own. I think the police obviously aren't coming. Look,
Speaker 4: I mean, you would hope that you wouldn't have to
Speaker 4: deploy your fucking own troops in your own country.
Speaker 2: Right, You would hope that that would never have to happen.
Speaker 2: But if you have these fucking rogue you know, mayors
Speaker 2: and rogue police departments that are saying that are not
Speaker 2: willing to do their jobs, what other fucking option do
Speaker 2: you have?
Speaker 4: Exactly? But of course we talked about this. I think
Speaker 4: yesterday or the day before. History is going to remember
Speaker 4: this a different way. History is going to write down
Speaker 4: that Trump was the pre is in that deployed troops
Speaker 4: on his own people that were protesting.
Speaker 5: He's gonna get looked at.
Speaker 4: Like he was trying to enact real fascism, because that's
Speaker 4: how the history books are gonna be written, I promise you,
Speaker 4: even though, like you just said, bro, what other fucking
Speaker 4: options are there?
Speaker 2: I mean at that point, I mean, the only thing
Speaker 2: else that there is to do is just to say, look,
Speaker 2: you just got to get out of that city. You
Speaker 2: gotta fucking glair marstial law, sell your shit and get
Speaker 2: the fuck out of there. Go somewhere else, which I mean,
Speaker 2: if this is going on, I would probably suggest that
Speaker 2: now nobody wants that, you know, you would you don't
Speaker 2: want to displace anybody some people. Really, Portland's a beautiful
Speaker 2: fucking city, right, like it's what, It's actually really nice.
Speaker 2: I've never been there, but I've seen like pictures and
Speaker 2: you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 3: It looks really nice.
Speaker 2: Like but in the same thing of like La like
Speaker 2: La is beautiful, it's the people that ruin it, you know,
Speaker 2: like it's sad, but it's.
Speaker 4: Unfortunate and as a gorgeous state, dude. But that's the thing.
Speaker 4: Outside of Portland and Eugene and the surrounding areas. The
Speaker 4: rest of the state is red as fuck, conservative timber workers,
Speaker 4: right loggers and shit mountain people, good salt of the
Speaker 4: earth kind of vibes. But it's the people in the
Speaker 4: big cities that make everybody think of Oregon as what
Speaker 4: they think, or Cammi Fournia is what they think, or Washington.
Speaker 4: It's it's all a part of it.
Speaker 2: But anyway, another quote says, I kind of supported one
Speaker 2: hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 3: It's kind of an oxymoron.
Speaker 4: I kind of kind of supported one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 2: Wow, just because I would like to see them clean
Speaker 2: up the city of Portland's as a resident of North Portland.
Speaker 2: At least they can do something to help our city. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're desperate, Yes, Indeed. Another one says, look at our streets.
Speaker 2: There's homelessness, there's they're full of garbage. Businesses are leaving.
Speaker 2: We're not a thriving city. Our city is falling. It's horrible,
Speaker 2: said a Portland woman.
Speaker 4: Which is very accurate. Portland has like an entire homeless
Speaker 4: colony that is uh. I mean, let's be honest. They're
Speaker 4: a detriment to society, like they are the new age
Speaker 4: of plague, and these are not people that fell on
Speaker 4: financial hard times and like, oh my god, the worst
Speaker 4: case scenario upon the worst case scenario happened to them,
Speaker 4: and so they had no choice but to go live
Speaker 4: under a bridge somewhere. No, no, no, these are people that
Speaker 4: went out of their way to choose to be homeless,
Speaker 4: to do the things that they're doing, and it's it's horrible.
Speaker 4: And it's not just so that they can use their
Speaker 4: drugs free of interference. That is, yeah, some of that's
Speaker 4: the case. Most of the time, it is crime. It
Speaker 4: is breaking into cars, it's breaking into businesses, it's it's
Speaker 4: to be a leech on society. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 4: I try and have a little bit of compassion for
Speaker 4: people that fall on hard times like that, but unfortunately,
Speaker 4: you know, the the extreme version of that is what
Speaker 4: we're seeing in Portland and many other cities to where
Speaker 4: you know, they'll they'll say, I'm not homeless, I'm home free.
Speaker 4: Well it's like, you know, then, why are you a
Speaker 4: stain on the city? Like why do why?
Speaker 2: Why is it that I take a walk down the
Speaker 2: road and I see somebody sleeping with a fucking meth
Speaker 2: pipe in their mouth.
Speaker 3: They're drooling and they smell like dog shit.
Speaker 2: And my sid my kid have to has to see
Speaker 2: that ship like it's a stain, is really what it is.
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: But my thing is, I never really understood why somebody
Speaker 2: would want to just sleep out in the open like that,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you've ever slept under the stars, it
Speaker 4: can be quite nice. But like that's a camping trip,
Speaker 4: right and all of that. That's one thing totally you
Speaker 4: can do that on the front. I'm like, why, because
Speaker 4: they're they're out of their fucking minds. Honestly, it makes
Speaker 4: no sense. But all right, getting back to this, uh
Speaker 4: this White House release here, now we are going to
Speaker 4: break down the long list of offenses that have happened
Speaker 4: from Antifa. So to say that these are non violent
Speaker 4: just protesters, I'm sorry, but all evidence to the contrary.
Speaker 5: Let's get into it.
Speaker 2: By the way, even Gavin Newsom, whenever you had what
Speaker 2: was it like Jijuapang coming over, right, He's like, look,
Speaker 2: whenever you have, uh, whenever you have visitors coming, you
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta clean up your house.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: It's like it's funny, how you know, all the homelessness
Speaker 2: kind of dispersed for a couple of days that jijiping
Speaker 2: was in and now all of a sudden, it's like
Speaker 2: all back. So even Gavin Newsom, I mean the literal
Speaker 2: fucking talking one of the main talking heads of the
Speaker 2: far left extremists, are saying that yes, even the homelessness
Speaker 2: of which they they they want. Come on, come on,
Speaker 2: come on, this is a city for everybody. But except
Speaker 2: if we have any important people coming over, we're gonna
Speaker 2: fucking we're gonna shove you in that closet like your
Speaker 2: fucking Harry Potter, right like. So yeah, anyway, it says,
Speaker 2: it's obvious what's happening in Portland isn't mere protest, it's
Speaker 2: premeditated anarchy. The latest chapter of violence in Portland at
Speaker 2: the hands of Antifa and the radical left, it says.
Speaker 2: Since early June, Antifa militants have laid siege on the
Speaker 2: ice Field Office in South Portland. The terrorists have violently
Speaker 2: breached the facility by using a stop sign as a
Speaker 2: battering ram, hurled explosives and projectiles, burned American flags, viciously assaulted,
Speaker 2: attacked and injured officers, doxed officers, berated neighbors, and even
Speaker 2: rolled out a guillotine is a guillotine or guillotine?
Speaker 3: I always fuck that up.
Speaker 2: Guillotine guillotine right, that's crazy, rolling out a guillotine, that's wild.
Speaker 4: Wrote dosing the officers for the record. There was two,
Speaker 4: at least that I know of. I'm sure it's more.
Speaker 4: Now they found where these dudes lived and started harassing
Speaker 4: their wives and kids at home while they laid siege
Speaker 4: to the building and their dad couldn't get home to
Speaker 4: defend them.
Speaker 2: Ah, that's evil, dude, agreed, it says. As part of
Speaker 2: the ongoing siege, dozens have been arrested and charged with
Speaker 2: serious crimes such as arson, assaulting federal officers, and resisting rest.
Speaker 2: In May of twenty twenty four, in Antiva, anarchist movement
Speaker 2: took credit for burning more than a dozen Portland Police
Speaker 2: Bureau training vehicles and may have twenty twenty two Antifa
Speaker 2: members deployed smoke grenades, paint filled balloons, and fireworks to
Speaker 2: break up a campaign event for a republic and political candidate.
Speaker 2: In August of twenty twenty one, Antifa terrorists violently attacked
Speaker 2: right wing demonstrators with explosives and chemical spray and January
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one, more than one hundred Antifa demonstrators
Speaker 2: attacked Portland police and vandalized property, with some armed with
Speaker 2: knives and long poles. In October of twenty twenty, antifa
Speaker 2: terrorists sparked a riot at an Indigenous People's Day of
Speaker 2: Rage event, toppling statues of Abe Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt
Speaker 2: and vandalizing multiple buildings.
Speaker 5: Which is crazy.
Speaker 4: They would topple statues of Abe Lincoln and Teddy Brosevelt
Speaker 4: to presidents that would think they'd be very in favor
Speaker 4: of but because they're Republicans, brah.
Speaker 3: And what does that have to do with the indigenous people?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: That does not make sense.
Speaker 2: In August of twenty twenty, a self described ANTIFA militant
Speaker 2: shot and killed a Patriot prayer supporter during a riot
Speaker 2: in Portland, then was later killed after he brainwashed or
Speaker 2: bred brainwashed, brandished a weapon with law enforcement attempted to
Speaker 2: apprehend him on murder charges. In twenty twenty, Portland Antifa
Speaker 2: terrorists led one hundred days of carnage and violence in
Speaker 2: Portland in which they've rioted, looted, burned buildings, bludgeoned officers.
Speaker 2: Deployed power tools and commercial grade fireworks as weapons, and
Speaker 2: attempted to destroy a local courthouse.
Speaker 3: These people are just myths, bro.
Speaker 4: It's not real, Jonathan. This this mythical Antifa group. It's
Speaker 4: not a real group. There's no organization. It's like no
Speaker 4: think about everything you just read before we even go
Speaker 4: any further. These things couldn't have happened without centralized organization.
Speaker 2: In May of twenty twenty, antifa terrorists released a quote
Speaker 2: unquote chilling video in which they threatened the city's mayor
Speaker 2: and publicized his home address.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: In November of twenty nineteen, an antifa terrorist was sentenced
Speaker 2: to six years in prison after end quotes using a
Speaker 2: weapon against a conservative demonstrator who suffered blows to the
Speaker 2: head that the victim claims left him with a concussion
Speaker 2: and cuts that required twenty five staples to close.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: In June of twenty nineteen, Portland antifa terrorists were arrested
Speaker 2: after assaulting right wing demonstrators and police with quick drank
Speaker 2: cement and bear spray.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, yep, and I am a right wing demonstrator.
Speaker 4: Could you imagine that just having a right wing protest
Speaker 4: go down? You're not out there with the you know.
Speaker 5: The prow boys or the oathkeepers.
Speaker 4: You're just out there saying I support Trump or get
Speaker 4: Biden out of office. He's a senile old man that
Speaker 4: has no business in that position. And they're gonna hit
Speaker 4: you with bear spray and some quick drying cement and
Speaker 4: beat the shit out of you, and you have to
Speaker 4: go get staples in your head. Totally. That's but this
Speaker 4: is nonviolent, and this group is not real. It doesn't exist, right.
Speaker 3: My god, this is fucking barbaric.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, a Bernie Sanders voter was beaten by
Speaker 2: Antifa militants for carrying an American flag. A Bernie Sanders voter, who,
Speaker 2: for the record, Bernie Sanders is a loud and proud socialist,
Speaker 2: has been that way since the sixties. He's never changed
Speaker 2: his his side of the conversation. He's always been very
Speaker 2: open and honest about him being a democratic socialist and
Speaker 2: a supporter.
Speaker 5: Was carrying an American flag.
Speaker 4: Which I just I don't know if anybody knows this
Speaker 4: or not, but carrying an American flag inside of the
Speaker 4: Nation of America shows patriotism. How dare you? Oh?
Speaker 3: My god, dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen, antifa terrorist caused an innocent Wisconsin family
Speaker 2: to be inundated with threats after they published their their
Speaker 2: address online in a botched doxing attempt.
Speaker 4: So they tried doxing a certain person, got the wrong address,
Speaker 4: and this poor family, who had no dog in that
Speaker 4: fight whatsoever, are now being harassed from all angles. Probably
Speaker 4: lost their jobs or probably we have to move, we
Speaker 4: have to get out. They're gonna attack us. All these things.
Speaker 4: They literally did nothing wrong.
Speaker 3: Wow, they really fucking dropped the ball on that one.
Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen, Antifa terrorists attacked an injured law enforcement
Speaker 2: and attendees at a pro at a pro free speech rally.
Speaker 4: We don't need fucking irony, dude.
Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen, Antifa threatened organizers of the annual Avenue
Speaker 2: of Roses Parade for including a Republican themed float, promoting
Speaker 2: or prompting the group to cancel the event altogether.
Speaker 4: The whole thing was canceled because they threatened because of
Speaker 4: one float. Can you imagine if there was one gay
Speaker 4: pride float? Just throwing this out is another example here,
Speaker 4: one gay pride float in a parade, and they got
Speaker 4: so much backlash and threats that they said, you know what,
Speaker 4: fuck it, We're not even do in the parade.
Speaker 5: Now, can you imagine how that would look in the media.
Speaker 3: Yep, it would be a hate speech or a hate thing.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, another one, the last one. It says in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: Antifa led rioting caused more than one million dollars in
Speaker 2: damage in Portland after President Trump's election. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 2: so again, it's like the Philadelphia Flyers just won the
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup. Let's go out and burn the fucking city.
Speaker 4: Yeah, basically, except worse because yeah, and again, this group
Speaker 4: is being now listed as a domestic terrorist organization. And
Speaker 4: I have to tell you I agree with that, I
Speaker 4: really really do. But now let's talk about one of
Speaker 4: their key players, one of their top dogs, of this
Speaker 4: group that doesn't exist, that has no ranking in hierarchy whatsoever.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about this now. A Rutgers professor flees the
Speaker 4: United States for Spain. He claims that he has received
Speaker 4: death threats. Now that claim is a bit wild, but
Speaker 4: let's get into it here. At Rutgers University, a professor
Speaker 4: and historians says that he and his family were forced
Speaker 4: to leave the country this week because of death threats.
Speaker 4: Mark Bray, remember I said to put a little pin
Speaker 4: in that name for later, is currently in Spain and
Speaker 4: spoke to CBS News New York's eighty Guado on Friday.
Speaker 4: Threats started after President Trump declared Antifa a terrorist organization.
Speaker 4: For six years, Bray strolled through the Rutgers campus in
Speaker 4: New Brunswick, first as a student and then as a professor.
Speaker 5: He says, there's a quote here.
Speaker 4: I'm a historian of fascism, and I understand that the
Speaker 4: way the authoritarian movement grows is by coming up with
Speaker 4: a boogeyman term like Antifa, says Bray, author of the
Speaker 4: book Antifa The Anti Fascist Playbook.
Speaker 3: Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 4: No? No, no, I shit you not. Let's see. Oh
Speaker 4: they don't have a picture of the book. But yes, no,
Speaker 4: the Antifa handbook. Remember how they said on the video
Speaker 4: we watched. It's almost like they're all working out of
Speaker 4: the same handbook. They have one. They absolutely have an
Speaker 4: Antifa handbook. We could look it up. Actually, hold on,
Speaker 4: let me think if it's on this one or not.
Speaker 4: Of course it's gonna be stupid.
Speaker 3: I think we saw the images of it earlier.
Speaker 4: I think we might have. But yeah, so he literally
Speaker 4: wrote the handbook, and this is him right here.
Speaker 5: We're gonna hear from his bitch ass here in a minute.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so he wrote the book on Antifa, the
Speaker 4: Anti Fascist Playbook.
Speaker 3: And then he says it's a boogeyman term.
Speaker 5: Right, they created it.
Speaker 4: Never mind the fact that antifa claims its roots from Eightya,
Speaker 4: and never mind the fact that the anti fascist movement
Speaker 4: that they took the logo of and brandished it under
Speaker 4: their own means has been around since nineteen twenties.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, forget all that.
Speaker 4: This is just the government trying to say that we're
Speaker 4: the bad guys. It's like, no, the list of things
Speaker 4: that we just read a moment ago makes you the
Speaker 4: bad guy, homie.
Speaker 2: So we're blaming it on the authoritarian movement of labeling
Speaker 2: it a boogeyman. And so therefore since the term that
Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't create it, but he wrote the playbook.
Speaker 2: The guy that wrote the playbook on Antifa is saying
Speaker 2: that it is a mythological boogeyman that doesn't exist. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: he is a historian of fascism in the first place.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if there is a historian on fascism that
Speaker 2: is writing a book on anti fascism, of which you
Speaker 2: can see Antifa riots that are popping up in every city,
Speaker 2: and then you want to say it's a mythological, fucking boogeyman.
Speaker 3: What am I missing here?
Speaker 4: So remember how we said that there's investigations about the
Speaker 4: money that is being exchanged, and how there's RICO cases
Speaker 4: being opened up on the top dogs of Antifa. He
Speaker 4: left the country before he could face indictment, and he's
Speaker 4: not alone, multiple top dogs of this non centralized, no
Speaker 4: hierarchy mythical group. Apparently the shot callers have left the
Speaker 4: fucking country.
Speaker 5: Because they realize that you can't escape Rico.
Speaker 4: Dude, they are coming for your ass, and so they
Speaker 4: decide they're just gonna leave and try to get to
Speaker 4: a country with no extradition.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's crazy. That's like starting a fire in
Speaker 2: the woods and then running before like it's a whole
Speaker 2: forest fire.
Speaker 4: Like you let the Palisades fire. Also, like I said,
Speaker 4: started by a Florida man who was affiliated with Antifa.
Speaker 4: Coincidence interesting and not even a little bit continue it
Speaker 4: says it really started after President Trump's executive order declaring
Speaker 4: Antifa a quote unquote terrorist organization quote unquote. The pace
Speaker 4: of death threats accelerated after Fox News article about Turning
Speaker 4: Points petition to have me fired, Brace said, Rutgers chapter
Speaker 4: of Turning Point USA looks to get Bray removed.
Speaker 5: Earlier this month, the Rutgers Chapter of.
Speaker 4: Turning Point USA, the group started by Charlie Kirk, launched
Speaker 4: the petition seeking to remove Antifa aligned professor quote unquote
Speaker 4: to protect conservative students from political violence rhetoric. It was
Speaker 4: a call to action that Brace said, fueled threats and
Speaker 4: put his family's safety at risk. Oh you mean, like
Speaker 4: the families of the officers that you docks and threaten.
Speaker 4: How crazy that It's crazy whenever happens to you, right,
Speaker 4: Brace said. He alerted the university, filed a police report,
Speaker 4: and left the US this week in order to protect
Speaker 4: his family.
Speaker 5: Again, bullshit, he says.
Speaker 4: I land in Spain this morning after a very mysterious
Speaker 4: and in my opinion, fishy cancelation of my flight on Wednesday,
Speaker 4: Bray said, So now he's claiming that the powers that
Speaker 4: be went in and canceled his flight before he could leave,
Speaker 4: which actually delayed him a few days, and he was
Speaker 4: like super scared by it. Michael Joseph, the president of
Speaker 4: Turning Point USA Rutgers chapter, said his organization condemns any
Speaker 4: threats of violence, but stands by its call to remove
Speaker 4: Bray from his position as a professor. Mark Bray is
Speaker 4: a coward fundamentally, is a direct quote.
Speaker 5: He thought he could hide behind his books.
Speaker 4: He thought he could hide behind his degree and radicalize
Speaker 4: kids from the safety of his classroom, Joseph said. Now
Speaker 4: Rutgers Issues and official response, Rutgers University released a statement saying,
Speaker 4: in part, Rutgers is committed to upholding the rights of
Speaker 4: students and faculty to free speech and academic freedom as
Speaker 4: fundamental to our community. Some students at the school said
Speaker 4: the threats have gone too far. I think it's kind
Speaker 4: of embarrassing that people are threatening somebody like this just
Speaker 4: for their own opinion, said Alexandra Haynes. It kind of
Speaker 4: it's kind of crazy and it's scary. Andrew Marquis added, So, continuing,
Speaker 4: Bray said his classes will be taught virtually going forward.
Speaker 4: So you know what, why don't we just let this
Speaker 4: piece of shit speak for himself. Let's see what old
Speaker 4: Mark Bray has to say. After a very mysterious and
Speaker 4: in my opinion, fishy cancelation of my flight on Wednesday.
Speaker 15: The president of Rutgers Running Point USA Chapter says they
Speaker 15: condemn any threats of violence, but stand by their call
Speaker 15: to remove Professor Bray.
Speaker 7: You know, Mark Brays a coward fundamentally. He thought he
Speaker 7: could hide behind his books. He thought he could hide
Speaker 7: behind his degree and radicalize kids from the safety of
Speaker 7: his classroom.
Speaker 15: Rutgers University released a statement reading, in part, Rutgers is
Speaker 15: committed to upholding the rights of students and faculty to
Speaker 15: free speech and academic freedom as fundamental to our community.
Speaker 15: Some students, he say, the threats have gone too far.
Speaker 14: I think it's kind of embarrassing that people are treating
Speaker 14: somebody like this just for their own opinions.
Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy, and it's scary.
Speaker 15: Race as his classes will now be taught virtually.
Speaker 4: All right, So let's continue onto the conversation. So again,
Speaker 4: to further the point that Antifa actually is being funded
Speaker 4: by let's just say certain individuals, right. I just don't
Speaker 4: want to throw it out there all the way.
Speaker 5: But let's see here.
Speaker 4: This is from the Bureau dot News talking about Canada,
Speaker 4: documenting Ottawa's blind spot on Antifa and concerns around its
Speaker 4: funding of a quote unquote anti hate ngo. Let's get
Speaker 4: into it here. This is from Toronto. This week on
Speaker 4: the Bureau podcast, we speak with Toronto lawyer and independent
Speaker 4: journalist Karima Saad said on him about her explosive claims
Speaker 4: that Discord, the same chat platform now under FBI scrutiny
Speaker 4: after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, is also being used
Speaker 4: inside Canada by Antifa aligned networks to coordinate harassment campaigns
Speaker 4: and share dossier's on political targets. They describe Discord as
Speaker 4: a central hub where tiered severe tiered servers give vetted
Speaker 4: insiders access to doc style files that go far beyond
Speaker 4: what is publicly available. She argues some of this information
Speaker 4: must come from the people in positions of trust teachers,
Speaker 4: union members, bureaucrats, even political staffers who are feeding them
Speaker 4: sensitive information and details into activist networks. She also connects
Speaker 4: these practices to the Canadian Anti Hate Network, a federal
Speaker 4: funded NGO that she says has assisted Antifa and shaped
Speaker 4: government focus in ways that overlook the risk of left
Speaker 4: wing extremism. Public record Jonathan get Ready for this public
Speaker 4: records can confirm CAHN, which is the Canadian government or
Speaker 4: the Canadian Anti Hate Network rather, received more than nine
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars from Ottawa twenty Ottawa being their capital city,
Speaker 4: and she contends that this money is effectively underwriting political
Speaker 4: targeting in Canada. So of that nine hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 4: I'm just curious how much of it made its way
Speaker 4: to support Antifa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's laundering under the guise of this is for.
Speaker 3: Less fortunate people usually bro.
Speaker 4: But it's a government INNGO. That's the crazy part. Well
Speaker 4: you imagine USAID was funding ANTIFA in America. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: the idea of I mean NGO stands for non government organization,
Speaker 4: I think, right, But it's still given the blessing by
Speaker 4: the government to operate, right right, Okay, right, so it's
Speaker 4: still like a a tax write off. It's still a
Speaker 4: nonprofit that is accepted by the government. So that means
Speaker 4: that the government sees what their records are. They have
Speaker 4: to file their annual reports every year to show where
Speaker 4: the money went into, whom and for what purpose. So
Speaker 4: they know where this money is being spent and how
Speaker 4: much of it is being used on quote unquote anti
Speaker 4: hate groups like Antifa in Canada. Mm. Yeah, yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 4: it's kind of a stink that you just can't get
Speaker 4: rid of, you know, it really isn't so it says
Speaker 4: in our full conversation. She goes further sayed speaking about
Speaker 4: her own targeting and how she was profiled after declining
Speaker 4: to work with the Canadian Anti Hate Network, and how
Speaker 4: swarming campaigns have tried to undermine her legal practice, Political reluctance,
Speaker 4: her frustration that even when harassment is verifiable and documented,
Speaker 4: law enforcement often shrugs off complaints as political disputes. So
Speaker 4: never mind if it's acts of violence or anything like that.
Speaker 4: That sounds like a political problem. Yeah. The protest ecosystem,
Speaker 4: how Antifa aligned sells blend with movements for indigenous rights,
Speaker 4: migrants rights, trans rights, encampment occupations, and pro Palestine rallies.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, pro Palestine, you don't fucking say, but okay,
Speaker 4: creating what she calls a solidarity banner that can rapidly
Speaker 4: pivot narratives and then the amplification abroad. Her concern about
Speaker 4: hostile state sees on Canadian protest footage using it in
Speaker 4: information operations that echo broader foreign interference campaigns.
Speaker 2: Yeah dude, wow, And this just goes to show that, like,
Speaker 2: if nothing else, there can never be a grassroots movement
Speaker 2: as long as you have these these riot disruptors.
Speaker 4: No way, because somebody's gonna infiltrate.
Speaker 2: But as it was saying, it's like, it's not to
Speaker 2: say that all of those protests are Antifa, right, It's
Speaker 2: just that Antifa uses them as a front in kind
Speaker 2: of a way.
Speaker 3: Right, Like that's the way I'm kind of interpreted in here.
Speaker 4: Yep. Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So now we get over to Ken Paxton, Attorney General
Speaker 2: of Texas says Attorney General Ken Paxson launches undercover operations
Speaker 2: to infiltrate and uproot leftist terror cells in Texas after
Speaker 2: increased political violence.
Speaker 4: In response in response to.
Speaker 2: The political assassination of national hero Charlie Kirk and the
Speaker 2: disturbing rise of the lest of the leftist violence across
Speaker 2: the country, Attorney General Ken Paxton has launched undercover investigations
Speaker 2: into various groups affiliated with left wing political violence known
Speaker 2: to be operating in Texas. Leftist political terrorism is a
Speaker 2: clear and present danger. Corrupted ideologies like transgenderism and Antifa
Speaker 2: are a cancer on our culture and have unleashed their
Speaker 2: deranged and drugged up foot soldiers on the American people.
Speaker 2: The martyrdom of Charlie kirk marks a turning point in America. Oh,
Speaker 2: A bit of a part there, Oh, I wonder, damn,
Speaker 2: that's interesting that they would even use that.
Speaker 4: It's weird that the Attorney General of Texas would say that,
Speaker 4: I will say, but you know.
Speaker 3: That strange, okay?
Speaker 4: Or was that him like giving an extra nod to
Speaker 4: Charlie maybe?
Speaker 2: I mean, And that's what I'm trying to say, is
Speaker 2: I think that they absolutely did try and martyr him,
Speaker 2: and for a turning point of America, that's just fucking weird,
Speaker 2: all right, you know, I guess I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's the same as the Trump shooting him. Uh,
Speaker 4: what was it in Pennsylvania. I think the Feds knew
Speaker 4: what was gonna happen and kind of let it whoopsie
Speaker 4: Daisy slip through their fingers because they could have used
Speaker 4: it if it would have gone through to fruition. I
Speaker 4: could see Charlie kirkby in the same way. There's multiple
Speaker 4: sources that are saying that the FEDS had prior knowledge
Speaker 4: of the attack on him and just kind of oopsie,
Speaker 4: Daisy did. And maybe you're right, maybe they weren't, Maybe
Speaker 4: they didn't have a hand in the martyrdom, but they
Speaker 4: absolutely were complicit in letting it happen.
Speaker 3: They took advantage of the story. Yeah, of the narrative.
Speaker 2: It says there can be no compromise with those who
Speaker 2: want us dead. To that end, I have directed my
Speaker 2: office to continue its efforts to identifi, investigate, and infiltrate
Speaker 2: these leftist terror sells. To those demented souls who seek
Speaker 2: to kill, steal, and destroy our country, know this. You
Speaker 2: cannot hide, you cannot escape, and justice is coming. The
Speaker 2: radical left as incubated an environment where political violence is
Speaker 2: not only justified, but celebrated and praised. In July, nearly
Speaker 2: two dozen armed leftists connected to various Texas based Antifa
Speaker 2: groups or Antifa lighte groups ambushed and Immigration and Customs
Speaker 2: effort and enforcement rather for ICE facility in Alvarado, Texas.
Speaker 2: On September tenth, twenty twenty five, a leftist assassin connected
Speaker 2: to the radical transgender movement murdered Charlie Kirk because of
Speaker 2: Kirk's bold support for truth, love and country, and unshakable faith.
Speaker 2: Two weeks later, another deranged leftist open fired at an
Speaker 2: ICE facility in Dallas. President Donald Trump has officially designated
Speaker 2: Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization and instructed his administration
Speaker 2: to in quotes, utilize all applicable authorities to investigate, disrupt,
Speaker 2: and dismantle any and all illegal operations, especially those involving
Speaker 2: terrorist actions conducted by Antifa. Building on President Trump's bold actions,
Speaker 2: Attorney General Paxton has instructed his office to initiate sweeping
Speaker 2: investigations into radical leftist organizations engaged in or providing support
Speaker 2: to those performing political violence.
Speaker 4: Absolutely so, with all this being said, this quick clip
Speaker 4: that I'm going to show here actually shows again how
Speaker 4: what you're seeing on the media is going to make
Speaker 4: Antifa look like they're just a bunch of clowns.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 4: They're not dangerous, they're not violent. Look at what they're
Speaker 4: doing with these protests. They're trying to seem like they're
Speaker 4: having a little funny, but it's all a part of
Speaker 4: the plan. Check this out.
Speaker 13: The Portland anti ice protester seen wearing an inflatable frog
Speaker 13: suit who has been popping up all over the Internet
Speaker 13: has claimed to be harmlessly protesting with humor, But now
Speaker 13: a new report has revealed the protester under the costume
Speaker 13: to be a self described proud Antifa terrorist. Here's everything
Speaker 13: you need to know. What became known online is the
Speaker 13: Portland Frog has recently been spotted on a near daily
Speaker 13: basis sticking out like a sore thumb during clashes between
Speaker 13: federal agents and anti ice protesters. The goofy looking frog
Speaker 13: has since been facing off with police and even getting
Speaker 13: pepper sprayed in the air vent of his costume in
Speaker 13: one viral clip. The viral protester has garnered so much
Speaker 13: attention that others in Portland have begun to wear their
Speaker 13: own inflatable costumes, even with a few clones.
Speaker 4: It is a strategy to.
Speaker 13: Cut the narratives of the Trump administration, which says we
Speaker 13: are extremely violent. No, we are protesting, but with humor,
Speaker 13: the Portland frog said, according to French outlet Lamonde. However,
Speaker 13: the identity of the mysterious inflatable amphibian has now been
Speaker 13: revealed as someone who has previously called for the death
Speaker 13: of President Trump and his supporters, according to a new
Speaker 13: report from the Telegraph. The report links the viral protester
Speaker 13: to twenty four year old Seth Todd, who uses the
Speaker 13: moniker Apollo Toad and now deleted social media accounts. According
Speaker 13: to the report, Todd's bio read just a little gay
Speaker 13: non binary toad and proud Antifa terrorists.
Speaker 3: So they really are turning the frogs gay in they
Speaker 3: really are.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is the reality of it. But again,
Speaker 4: this guy self proclaimed proud Antifa terrorist, gay little bond
Speaker 4: non binary toad. His Instagram account, which has been taken down,
Speaker 4: was underscore Portland queer Toad or something like that.
Speaker 5: But that's neither here nor there. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They are using humor as a way to dissuade people
Speaker 4: from looking at Antifa like the actual violent terrorist group
Speaker 4: that it is. They are trying to give this image, okay,
Speaker 4: they're trying to make it seem like, well, okay, they're
Speaker 4: just out here.
Speaker 5: They don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 4: There's no centralized organization, there's no real money being funded
Speaker 4: from here to there. This is all self funded things.
Speaker 4: The molotov cocktails and the riot gear. It's this is
Speaker 4: just kids doing wild shit, and yes, they don't need
Speaker 4: to be violent. Yeah, we can all say the protests
Speaker 4: don't need to be violent.
Speaker 5: But like, there's no organization here.
Speaker 4: Never mind the fact that multiple one of their biggest
Speaker 4: ones we talked about, Mark Bray, has left the country
Speaker 4: because he knows he's about to face RICO charges. Because
Speaker 4: if you look at all of the funds that he
Speaker 4: has made from his book sales for the Anti Fascist Handbook,
Speaker 4: all of them have been cycled into Antifa and go
Speaker 4: towards funding violence through them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, you can't like just rewrite a narrative
Speaker 2: that has been written, you know, for you, by your
Speaker 2: own people. It's like, it's like if somebody was to
Speaker 2: wear a fucking white hood and say they're a part
Speaker 2: of the KKK at a protest and say, yeah, there
Speaker 2: was a couple of bad apples in the group, but
Speaker 2: I mostly stand for what they believe. It's like, you're
Speaker 2: an idiot.
Speaker 3: Why would you even want to align with somebody like that.
Speaker 2: You know that all this shit is going on with Antifa,
Speaker 2: how many times it's been documented. You know that they've
Speaker 2: been funded by you know, agents of chaos, right, people
Speaker 2: that want to see the country and the government and
Speaker 2: people die and just taken over. Right, So so you
Speaker 2: think that it's like harmless to label yourself as antifa. Bro, Like,
Speaker 2: if you label yourself as Antifa, we're going to look
Speaker 2: at you like antifa. Okay, I hate to say it,
Speaker 2: but like if it fucking walks like a duck and
Speaker 2: quacks like a duck.
Speaker 5: Bro into the same thing.
Speaker 4: On the other side of the conversation, there are some people,
Speaker 4: some actual adults, who are like, listen, Hitler might have
Speaker 4: had some wild shit with him, but he was really
Speaker 4: only trying to help Germany. He was miss unstood.
Speaker 5: He was misunderstood, right, It's not like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, there may have been some Nazis that he
Speaker 4: had that were doing some wild shit, but that wasn't.
Speaker 4: For God's sakes, Jacob Reid.
Speaker 3: Mind comf for once in your life.
Speaker 4: Clearly, I'm otherwise, I don't know what I'm talking about here. Meanwhile,
Speaker 4: it's like, no, you dumbass, millions of people being genocidally murdered,
Speaker 4: does it. I'm sorry, you're not gonna say that Hitler
Speaker 4: was mostly a good guy or the Nazi Party was
Speaker 4: mostly just pro Germany.
Speaker 5: That's not how this goes.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's not a it's not a hill you
Speaker 2: want to die on.
Speaker 4: No, it's not. But there are people that are willing
Speaker 4: to die on the Antifa hill and it's mind blowing.
Speaker 5: So so we have.
Speaker 4: Our good cult members that may have some opinions or
Speaker 4: feelings about if Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization or
Speaker 4: you think that maybe they're just some misunderstood college kids. Again,
Speaker 4: more and more information is coming out daily about the
Speaker 4: money trail, the actual shot callers, the organization, how they're recruiting,
Speaker 4: how they're crowdsourcing, how they are funding, how they are training,
Speaker 4: and the types of weapons and tactics that they are using.
Speaker 4: In order to give the illusion that they are not
Speaker 4: a threat, but in reality, they are a threat. We
Speaker 4: just read off a short list that was not an
Speaker 4: all encompassing, comprehensive list of everything Antifa has done. The
Speaker 4: White House just released a very short list of some
Speaker 4: violence that Antifa has been associated with. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: could you imagine if the three percenters had a list
Speaker 4: like that of violence that they were doing, you would
Speaker 4: say that they are conservative domestic terrorists. Yes, there's no
Speaker 4: way around that or the Klan. If the Klan was
Speaker 4: doing these types of things right now, in the past
Speaker 4: fifteen years, and they had a list like that of
Speaker 4: doing violence for political means and breaking up democratic rallies
Speaker 4: and whatever else, you would say that they are a
Speaker 4: domestic terrorist organization, which they are. And I am of
Speaker 4: the belief that Antifa is one one hundred percent a
Speaker 4: domestic terrorist organization that needs to be pulled up from
Speaker 4: the roots and completely decimated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I one hundred percent agree anybody that is labeled
Speaker 2: and labeling themselves as Antifa, you are not human to me.
Speaker 2: Like that's just I'm sorry, Like whatever, you know, whatever
Speaker 2: punishment comes to you you, I have no sympathy for you.
Speaker 4: I feel the same way about Commi's for the record,
Speaker 4: it's not like Antifa's just getting all the smoke here
Speaker 4: commies and socialists. I don't see you as like a person.
Speaker 4: Like you know, birds are the.
Speaker 3: Same feather, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: They are.
Speaker 3: Either way.
Speaker 4: Well, look, if you have.
Speaker 2: Been you know, in Portland or any of these other cities,
Speaker 2: or you've been a part of any crowd that has
Speaker 2: been kind of infiltrated by Antifa, and you're just tired
Speaker 2: of getting fucked time and time and time again, go
Speaker 2: over and check out out an Eve dot com. All right,
Speaker 2: because there is such thing as death by dildo. Fucking
Speaker 2: beat the shit out of them with a giant, six
Speaker 2: foot long dildo.
Speaker 3: They have them.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, y'all, we're not advocating for violence.
Speaker 5: This is clearly a joke satire, y'all.
Speaker 2: But anyway, you know, you don't have to beat them
Speaker 2: to death, but maybe get them a black eye with
Speaker 2: a dildo.
Speaker 3: It's just hilarious.
Speaker 2: But look, maybe you don't want to do that. Maybe
Speaker 2: you want it for your own pleasure.
Speaker 4: Whatever kind of toys, whatever kind of lube or whatever
Speaker 4: kink you're into.
Speaker 3: Admin Eva's out there. They are. They're there to have
Speaker 3: your back and your front and your side and whatever.
Speaker 3: Poll you.
Speaker 4: I don't know where I'm going with that. You're trying
Speaker 4: to have penetrated. They got a toy for it, I promises.
Speaker 7: Yes.
Speaker 2: If you want to be able to support the show,
Speaker 2: go to Adam and Eve dot com. Use the promo
Speaker 2: code cult. You get fifty percent off your entire order,
Speaker 2: free shipping, discret shipping, and yeah it's all yours.
Speaker 4: Then absolutely all right, so all the good cult members,
Speaker 4: let us know what you think about this. What is
Speaker 4: your personal take on Antifa? What is your take on
Speaker 4: the way the media is portraying them, both Republican and
Speaker 4: Democrat mainstream media sources. What is your take on the
Speaker 4: actual protests that are going down and the sieves that
Speaker 4: is taking place across multiple ice facilities, the violence towards
Speaker 4: police officers. Everything we want to hear from you. Where
Speaker 4: do you fall onto good cult members? And the best
Speaker 4: place to let us know what be too? Please hit
Speaker 4: the five stars, hit the shares of likes and Chris comics,
Speaker 4: legle post re review of shares, Affriends of family, shriffesa
Speaker 4: that we're Here's the deal. The more activity the out
Speaker 4: across all of our listening platforms, the more we get
Speaker 4: promote to more potential listeners.
Speaker 5: Who could have become potential cult members actors.
Speaker 4: You fine ladies and gentlemen, why are you anny? Go
Speaker 4: check out Nothimistic to Jonathan's other show and getting the
Speaker 4: samelevel of respect over there with the five star reviews
Speaker 4: and the pottuity in the comments. Come check out the
Speaker 4: K tonight and come join each of us for individual
Speaker 4: patrons that we host every Wednesday night night be in
Speaker 4: Posentral leaks to those of the in the description.
Speaker 5: As well, and we thank you.
Speaker 4: Everybody's already gone and done.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, with that being said, this was another beautiful episode.
Speaker 2: I'm the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathans
Speaker 2: and Jake and there's one very import of truly vital
Speaker 2: piece of information we needed to.
Speaker 4: Learn just as soon as humanly possible. Hey, cult members,
Speaker 4: Jacob here just want to ask who wants better sex?
Speaker 4: The best way to get started is to go to
Speaker 4: Adam and Eve dot com right now. Adam Eve is
Speaker 4: offering fifty percent off just about any item, but that's
Speaker 4: not all. When you get one item, they will also
Speaker 4: send three bonus sexy items and six free movies. They
Speaker 4: offered a screet shipping as your privacy is a priority.
Speaker 4: Plus free shipping on your entire order doesn't matter how
Speaker 4: much you spend or what you buy. All we packaged
Speaker 4: and sent discreetly for free. That's fifty percent off one
Speaker 4: item and ten free gifts to boot bring more pleasure
Speaker 4: and satisfaction into your bedroom. Just go to Adam and
Speaker 4: Eve dot com and select any one item.
Speaker 5: It could be an adventurous new toy, or anything you desire.
Speaker 4: Just enter the offer code CULT at checkout and you'll
Speaker 4: get fifty percent off almost any item, plus ten free gifts,
Speaker 4: three bonus items, six free movies, and free shipping. Use
Speaker 4: the offer code CULT that's c U l T at
Speaker 4: Adam and Eve dot com. Now, this is an exclusive
Speaker 4: offer specific to this podcast, so be sure to use
Speaker 4: this code to get you not just the discount and
Speaker 4: the free goodies, but also the one hundred percent free
Speaker 4: shipping with the code CULT