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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome. Here we go a special bonus hour

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number four of Matt connorton Unleashed. Today. It is August thirtieth,

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twenty twenty five, and we are live at three pm Eastern,

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And of course, whether you're tuning in live, if you

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are tuning in live, feel free to chime in in

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the chat room. We have a very special guest we're

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going to introduce in a moment, and if you are

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enjoying this in the podcast feed after the fact, welcome.

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It is a holiday weekend, so I don't know how

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many live listeners and or viewers will have, but I

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know a lot of people are going to be checking

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out the podcast of this. Jenny is here. Of course

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she is not at the news table because we're not

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at the radio station, but she.

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Speaker 2: Is that creative space.

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Speaker 1: You are, Yes, you are at a table of sorts

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and joining us live on the show. We have Karishma Manzor,

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a New Hampshire candidate for the United States Senate challenging

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for the Democratic nomination. And Hello, Karishma. Hello man well Sisa,

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Speaker 3: Hello Jen, good afternoon, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: So it's nice to have you here. We were, of

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course Jenny and I were recently at your event at

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McIntyre here in Manchester making your official announcement, and Jenny

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was Jenny spoke there as well, as there were a

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number of great speakers there that day, and of course

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and you spoke and announcing your candidacy. Why are you well? Actually, well,

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let's start here for tell us a little bit about

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your background, if you would, and then I want to

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know all about why you're running. You're certainly an underdog

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in this race. Of course we'll get into all of that,

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but tell us a little bit about you and your background.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 4: Thank you first of all, thank you Matt, thank you Jen,

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and thank you for all the listeners. I truly appreciate

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that you guys are giving me this opportunity to reach

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other people across Mawhampshire. Let me see who am I?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 4: I'm Kirishma. I live in Exeter with my husband my

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two children. I'm a scientist by training and I've been

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working in clinical research for about twenty years. Over twenty

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years now so clinical research. My work has involved finding

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treatments for various illnesses. I worked on Alzheimer's disease at

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one point, but the last few years, I was mainly

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focused on epilepsy and depression, and I loved my work.

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I love being a scientist. I love being love doing

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clinical research. It is just so gratifying. You don't end

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the day saying, oh, another eight hour day, or ten

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hour day or twelve our day. You just absolutely love

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it because you know that whatever you're doing, whatever the

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workload is, it is always helping people. So it's a

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form of public service. Matt and Jen. It is a

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form of public service because scientists.

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Speaker 2: We don't really yes, we don't get rich.

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Speaker 4: We don't go in for the money. We go in

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because we care about people and we want to help them.

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So but over the course of the last couple of years,

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I started to get a little sad because every time

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I would hear, wait a second. So we have all

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these great treatments, we have all these wonderful research going on,

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but what will happen to these treatment? Will people be

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able to access it? And yes, many millions of people

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are able to get receive treatment, but it was disheartening

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to realize that millions of Americans, millions of Americans don't

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have access to and adequate healthcare, or they don't have

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access to they might have private health insurance, but they don't.

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They can't afford the copays. And so I started to

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move away a little bit, started to think, Wait, what's

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going on? Why is why is this happening in the

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richest country in the world, Matt. We live in the

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richest country in the history of the world. Yes, so

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why are millions of Americans suffering from various ways? But

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I was focusing specifically on healthcare at one point, and

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it's not because lack of resources. It's because it's deliberate, Mett.

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It's deliberate, it's by design. It's working exactly how people

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want it to work. The lawmakers have been basically leaving

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us behind for decades. Many are there are really great

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fighters over in Congress, many great fighters, but the majority

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actually are not interested. They're corporate politicians. So as long

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as their donors are happy, as long as their own

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portfolio is doing well and their stock options, they're actually

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doing quite well. Whereas here on the ground, people, and

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it's beyond healthcare, like the fact that we have our

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minimum wage is stuck at seven twenty five. It's really terrible. Absolutely,

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it's horrifying what we are doing to people, childcare is

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a serious crisis right now. There are so many families

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who just can't afford fifteen hundred or two thousand dollars

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childcare per month when they're working. It's terrible. And so

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going to go to childcare, so it's worth it. What

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a terrible decision. And then the housing crisis, Matt so

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I started to understand, Wow, there are all these crises

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that we hear about, we read about, but those are

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not impossible problems. Those are not problems that you know,

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as a government should be able to predict what's going

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to be needed. Populations growing will need more housing, families

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need childcare, cost of living needs to be managed, salaries

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have to keep up with inflation, and over and over again,

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introduced in the House and the Senate and barely, I

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mean it barely gets any enough co sponsors. So that's

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how I started to move away from research into nonprofit sector,

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then into the legislative work, and I basically became to

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a decision, many of us from the nonprofit sector, that

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it's not enough just to have just to elect a Democrat.

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We have to elect the right Democrat.

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Speaker 1: And so here I am wonderful. You know, Jenny and

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I you you talked about how our health insurance system

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works or doesn't work, and you know you you you

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said something that I often say. We live in the

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most prosperous, most innovative, most successful country in the history

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of the world, and yet we somehow can't make sure

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that everyone has access to adequate or preferably better than

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adequate health care. It doesn't make any sense. And the

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reasons you laid out for why that is the way

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we had single payer health care care. Because people say, well,

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where would the money come from, It's like, well, the

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money is already being spent. If you had single payer,

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now your employer doesn't have to pay for your health care.

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paycheck to pay for your health care. So the money

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the whole. Because the thing about health insurance companies, and

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than most people are, to be very blunt, and let's

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hear it, to be very blunt. The health insurance company

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only wants you around as long as you are an asset,

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as long as your premium is getting paid every month

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and you're not costing them money. Once you move from

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being an asset to a liability, you're now costing them money.

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The insurance company then, at that point, would prefer that

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you die. It's purely a business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 4: It's horrible, horrific.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, they want why they want you

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to die at that point.

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Speaker 3: And that's the reality they were all living in, right,

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now advocating and trying to help people get the health

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care they need that they're denied by these arbitrary systems.

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Speaker 2: And the thing.

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Speaker 3: Is that the usual excuses, I don't want government run healthcare,

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socialized medicine. We're talking about what exists in your I

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don't know, Matt, you and I are going to have

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to have a debate about what's the best country in

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the world, because I think you're I don't think you're

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right on that one, because.

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Speaker 2: I got to be in other places and.

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Speaker 3: In the Netherlands, everybody has access to healthcare. Whatever it

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is that they need that the doctor orders, gets ordered.

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The cost is minimized because there isn't all this bureaucracy.

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And the doctor says you have X and need test

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to be okay, you get that. They say you need

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this drug and it goes to the pharmacist, and the

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pharmacist delivers it to you and that's the end of

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the friggin story right there, as far as hell, and

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it's cheaper, there's no billing crap, there's none of this.

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a new staff member to do nothing all day every day,

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but blue cross, blue shield denials of care for therapy,

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for mental health therapy should be something easy to get

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through insurance.

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Speaker 4: And this is a full time job jender.

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Speaker 2: Yes, versus that business was in conquered. This is here.

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Speaker 3: Business was in conquered and they had they already had

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billing staff. They had to hire another staff member to

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do nothing but Blue Cross Blue Shield denials.

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Speaker 2: Never mind the other company denials.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Right, So this is what we're living with and it's

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Speaker 3: So if it's insurance works by we all pay into

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a pool, yes, and then that pool pays the bills.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we all pay taxes. This is our money.

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Speaker 3: It goes into the Medicare fund that's supposed to pay

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the bills. Not give United Healthcare enough fuel to use

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their Gulfstream jet because they don't want to apply with

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the peasants.

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Speaker 2: Utilizing our government to protect those profits.

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Speaker 3: I need somebody in the Senate who's going to stand

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up to that, because nobody's doing it for me now.

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I was getting treatments covered by my insurance company. But

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since the new regime take over, they have now said

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that though I am not cured and there is no cure,

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they're no longer medically necessary. They called and told me

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that would not put it in writing, but will not

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give me a prior authorization, so I cannot get the

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treatment unless I pay cash upfront.

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Speaker 2: I've tried to get help, and I've got crickets.

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Speaker 3: And CMS, Center for Medicare Services is supposed to keep

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their feet to the fire and say that the.

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Speaker 2: Law says you do X, that's what you do.

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Speaker 3: That's their job to enforce those laws and make sure

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things are done right.

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Speaker 2: I got crickets. I got no you know what they

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Speaker 3: CMS literally to me to try another insurance, oh my thought.

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that I need because the provider that they have or

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in network don't do these treatments. So I should give

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up treatment or just hang out until next year and

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try another insurance, because you know, illness lets you just

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hang out, right.

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Speaker 2: You know that as a scientist, don't you. So if

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Speaker 3: About Medicare for all, people say government funded healthcare, that.

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Speaker 4: Is absolute bullshit.

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Speaker 2: That is bullshit.

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Speaker 3: That is taxpayer funded, just like your insurance is now

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pay into the pool the pool bills. So if Medicare

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is accepted in most places and the doctor builds Medicare

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and Medicare pays the bills, without all the craft that

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goes on now, so there's not that overhead, not that cost.

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Speaker 2: The cost of health care comes down.

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Speaker 3: Medicare is accepted by most everybody, so you have access

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to everybody, so you don't have network constraints, state line

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: So the kind of health care you're talking about makes

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it accessible for everybody and puts everybody in the same

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playing field in that you need chemo, you get the chemo.

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Speaker 2: The insurance company doesn't get to.

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Speaker 3: Say you need to try the cheaper version first, and

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then when that fails and it's too late to try

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the one the doctor wanted you on, you die sooner,

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so you don't cost them as much money.

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Speaker 2: And I know that that's what my health insurance company, United.

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Speaker 3: Healthcare, is hoping that I'm just going to kick off

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll do what I always do. I'll pay for

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it my damn self, because they're not going to win.

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Speaker 4: They're not right, you know.

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Speaker 3: But it shouldn't be like this, so we shouldn't have

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to fight those battles. So that's one of the very

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biggest reasons why I was so happy to endorse you

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as a former state representative. As a former Republican, You're

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everything that I need up there to ensure what you

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want to bring to the table will save lives.

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Speaker 2: What's going on.

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Speaker 3: Up there right now and the status quo And I'm sorry,

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but your counterpart supports Medicare advantage, which is destroying lives

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and killing people.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what's doing it to me. And I've

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tried so hard with letters.

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Speaker 3: And phone calls and meetings of trying to say please

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listen to us because we're hurting out here.

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Speaker 2: And yet the status.

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Speaker 3: Quo politicians up on the hill keep signing off on

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Medicare advantage and increasing the amount of money these companies

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gets in profit out of tax dollars Medicare tax dollars, well,

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increasing our costs.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's let let's let Chrisma talk about that.

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Speaker 4: You guys brought up so many great points. Okay, I

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don't have a piece of paper. I could have should

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have taken notes. I'm going to try to remember first

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Matt and Jenn. First of all, my god, you guys

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are the information that you guys just shared. You have

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to talk about it all the time out there everywhere

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because of us. Don't even know about these things right

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until suddenly we lose it, like we lose our employment,

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or we get older, or we are now some other disadvantage,

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and then you realize how messed up the system is.

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But we cannot wait until people are in their most

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vulnerable and then have to experience these terrible situations. So

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what you guys talked about, please talk about it over

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and over again with everyone. Let's get that message out.

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And what you said, I mean it was it kind

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of was chilling you called it, which is actually true.

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We are either assets or a liability. We're a commodity.

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How disgusting. So because why because it has become healthcare

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should not be for profit? Good God, healthcare should not

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be for profit, and that is exactly what the model

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we have. And so one thing I would like to

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say is look at our fire services, the first responders,

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whether it's the fire service or the police force. They

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are not for profit. We pay into for these services,

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and God forbid that we don't need it. But the

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day we may need it because there's a fire in

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the house or a burglars breaking in. I'm so glad

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that we have a fire department in my town and

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a police department in my town. Healthcare should be like that,

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not a for profit service. It should always be there

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and when you God forbid, if you're ill or you

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get into an accident, you have access to it. And

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it shouldn't. And Jen touched on this the amount of

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money we're wasting on the bureaucracy. Jen, I look this up.

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Thirty four percent of what we spend on healthcare, thirty

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four percent goes to bureaucracy, not to pay for medicine

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or treatments or devices or the physicians, just bureaucracy. And

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like you said, you walk into a doctor's office and

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you know the receptionist is in the front checking you in,

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but you see two or three people are in the

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working in the background. All they're doing is fighting with

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health insurance. It's a legitimate doctor's office, it's a primary care.

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You know they're going to most proudly order blood tests,

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maybe some other tests, and they're going to sign up

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a physician, an MD who has gone to medical school,

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who has done the internship, who has done the residency,

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who has years of practice, has to basically fight with

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the insurance company. Someone somewhere, maybe in the Philippines, somewhere

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who will be like, nah, I don't think so. I

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don't think that test is required.

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Speaker 2: Who are you?

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Speaker 4: What medical degree do you have? We have to talk

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about it loud and clear. We have to inform people,

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and we have to say this is unacceptable and why

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is it? Why so we are now the only developed

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nation in the world, not only the richest, but we

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also have another we were sticking out. We're the only

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developed nation does not have a universal health coverage. Right.

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That is embarrassing. It is embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: And not only that, we associate it with work only.

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Speaker 2: So you get sick and you can't work anymore, you

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lose your health.

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Speaker 3: That's what happened to me. I was a full time

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healthcare worker. I had a multiple jobs, but I got

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breast cancer, and that's that trashed my whole life, right,

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And it wasn't any fault, but exactly that, right, like

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we associated yeah, yeah exactly, and the minute you're sick,

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it's like, yeah, well, if you can't make me money

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and you can't serve me, I got no use for

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you anymore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And it's really wrong. And then a lot

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of times it stops a person from moving to another job.

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They're like, yeah, you know, I don't like my job.

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I want to see an advancement, but you know I

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have that health insurance, like it really holds people back.

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It does so from the employee perspective, you were like,

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you know, I really want to try something else. Maybe

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I want to take some time off, maybe I want

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to try and start my own business, but I cannot

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afford health insurance on my own. But and I think Jen,

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you touched on it, from the employer's perspective, it is

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draining them. Every single year, the premiums keep going up,

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and it is absolutely terrible. I've talked to small business

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owners who are afraid to hire more people because they

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just can't afford it. Right, Like Jen said, you lose

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your insurance when you are when you're sick. But another

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thing that happens is say you are forty, maybe you're

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a fifty year old or a sixty year old, and

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you're still working and you try to get a job.

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That employer will look at your age and say, this

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person might cost me more because my insurance company will say, huh,

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we are spending a little bit more because your employees

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have more illnesses. Your premium is going to go up.

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Speaker 1: It's a good point that.

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Speaker 4: Stops employers from hiring a fifty year old and sixty

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year old. You'll see people we will say, I'm almost

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it's impossible to find a job now because I am

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at a certain age. So it makes no sense what

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we have. It is absolutely horrible for individuals. It's horrible

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for employers. It's horrible for the people who get sick.

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We need to let's say, okay, so we have established

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it's a broken system. So now, so I'm a scientist, Jen,

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you are also coming from science, Matt, I don't actually know.

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Speaker 1: I'm very bad at science. Math and science are not

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my friends. But that's why I trust people who know

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about science.

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Speaker 4: So Jen and I are both coming from the healthcare field.

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So we are this kind of like we're kind of

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we are pragmatists, we're practical. We're like, Okay, there's this problem,

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let's figure out the problem, what's causing the problem, Let's

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look at solutions and implement the solutions.

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Speaker 3: And it's a very.

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Speaker 4: Simple, right. It's like for us, it's like it's a

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no brainer, but obviously it's so not a no brainer

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for a lot of people, or maybe they're too corrupt

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to be no brainers for them. Okay, so what is

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the solution. Let's talk about the solution. Then. We need

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one single healthcare plan that is not going to be

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for profit we cannot have, and that is not going

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to have thirty four percent spent on bureaucracy. We are

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going to have one single pair system which will cover

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every American across the country. And what is that system called.

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There's only one plan out there, which is Medicare for all. Now,

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the word medicare is being used way too many places,

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and I think it's just scare people. So there's a

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different and this is Jen. I'm going to try to

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explain it, but I know you're the expert, so please

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chime in because you have taught me so much about medicare. Folks,

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if you have any questions, ask Jen. She's like, I swear,

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she's brilliant and she's an expert. All right, So Jen

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helped me out. Here's the traditional medicare, which is the

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Plan A, Plan B, and Plan D yep. Okay, so

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that is available to people when they hit sixty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or you can currently sixty five my generation, it's

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switching to sixty.

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Speaker 2: Seven seven, okay. Or have you become disabled right okay?

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Or you're born Sometimes it happens for children.

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Speaker 3: If you're born with some kind of a disability, you

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may have have medicare granted right out of the gate

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as your baby.

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Speaker 4: That's true, okay. Now, Medicare Advantage should not use the

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term medicare because that abuses the word medicare and throws

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people off.

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Speaker 2: That is that typical.

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Speaker 4: Marketing scheme to use a good word, and.

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Speaker 2: You know, don't do that.

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Speaker 4: Don't do that.

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Speaker 3: And that's one of those bills you were talking about

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that's sitting in the Senate. You're a stalled that's supposed

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to forbid them from being able to use that term.

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So they can because so many people, especially older folks,

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get tricked in states, especially where they can call you

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and do everything over the phone.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean yeah, and that's it all.

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Speaker 4: But now Medicare advantage, it uses the term medicare, but

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it's all for profit insurance companies are part of that, right, yes, okay,

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So that's where it's no longer a controlled environment. Now

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you've gone into the for profit sector and therefore you

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are now, oh, they are not going to cover this

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treatment or they're going to meet pre authorization, and then

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it becomes that whole complexity and it is no longer

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about the patient and their provider. It becomes about a

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CEO and their profit.

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Speaker 3: One of my specialists has staff that do nothing all

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day but sit on the phone getting prior authorizations for

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every single treatment done.

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Speaker 4: The other day I was at the doctor's office and

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I intentionally talked to them. I was like, I need

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to talk to you guys. How long does it take

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you to get authorization? Like every single insurance company has

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its own system. Some are over the phone, Some are

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like this complicated computer system. Some are a little bit easier.

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And they said, sometimes it can be I can be

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on hole for an hour, one patient, one procedure, on

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hole for an hour. Ye think about how annoying and

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how grotesque that is. It is so wrong. So then

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so now okay, so but we are feeding. So at

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the moment, our whole healthcare system costs five trillion dollars,

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five trillion dollars. That's with a big ta Medicare for all,

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which is different from traditional medicare. Because okay, I should

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talk about it a little bit just before I go

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into the finances. Medicare for All builds on traditional Medicare,

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but the advantages I should not say the word advantage.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Johnny calls it Medicare disadvantage.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, we're talking about about that one partsy out.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Medicare for All builds on the awesome Medicare system

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that we have. But it includes dental, vision, hearing, and

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long term care, which is not part of traditional Medicare,

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because those are extremely important.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's another thing that we do that other

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countries don't do.

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Speaker 2: We don't.

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Speaker 3: They take eyes and teeth a part of your body.

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Speaker 5: So like that's you know, part of the healthcare too,

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but here not so much. Even though a truth bacteria

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can cause a fatal heart condition and life.

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Speaker 4: So I had to tooth move not to get to personally.

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But I need a filling. It's gonna cost me five thousand.

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I'm like, no, I think I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm getting out of my dentist. We'll

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talk later.

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Speaker 4: Some people said, go to a foreign country and get

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it done. It'll be cheaper.

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Speaker 1: That's what Americans are doing because the people.

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Speaker 2: Do get health care at home.

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Speaker 3: And it touched back to what you were saying about,

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how all of this is integrated, so that doctor is

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paying for that staffer for an hour salary to sit

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on hold, plus matching their taxes and paying their Medicare

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and paying their all of that cost. Yes, to hold

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on for prior authorization. Now if you just got to

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do the treatment, what's the cost of that? And how

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many more people are available to actually take care of

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patients instead of pushing pencils?

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Speaker 4: Exactly? Absolutely so. Now, now, so that five trillion dollars system,

477
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if we transfer, we get rid of all those for profits,

478
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we get rid of all the CEO's money, and the

479
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Wall Street's making a huge amounts of money. Oh my god,

480
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Wall Street is so happy with the broken system. And

481
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we get rid of the bureaucracy, and we just hold

482
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on to that five trillion dollar system. Medicare for all

483
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will be six and fifty billion dollars cheaper than that

484
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five trillion dollar system.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

486
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Speaker 3: Let if we think about our history too, Oh gee,

487
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politicians stole money out of the Medicare Trust Fund.

488
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Speaker 2: How about wouldn't this put money back into it?

489
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Speaker 3: I hadn't get healthcare to more people at a better price,

490
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Like there's so much about that that just snowballs.

491
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Speaker 4: So Jen, why are we why don't we pass it?

492
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Why are we the only nation in the developed nation

493
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that doesn't have that system limit? Let's talk.

494
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Speaker 2: Hmmm, it's the lobbyist.

495
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a multimillion dollar industry. They spend millions and

496
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millions of dollars on the hill. I watched as it

497
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happened when we tried to fight that money shouldn't get

498
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increased to these health insurance companies, you know, with the

499
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twenty five million dollars the EO salary, right, and they're

500
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cutting our benefits like this year Medicare disadvantage cut dental

501
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care except for cleanings and X rays. Oh, because that

502
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:04,880
those are cheaper. So it just I thought this was

503
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about giving us more benefits to this cheaper cost. But

504
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here's the thing, you know that Medicare disadvantaged those companies United.

505
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Speaker 2: Healthcare at the Blue Cross, Blue Shield, they make millions

506
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of billions.

507
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Speaker 3: They make over eight well, United Healthcare makes about eight

508
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billion dollars every three.

509
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Speaker 2: Months in profit, and a a ton of that.

510
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,279
Speaker 3: Is Medicare dollars because they make more money on Medicare

511
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advantage patients than they do anything else. Because first of all,

512
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they get like a flat month forgetting you as once

513
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:36,720
you signed up on THEIRS, they get money for you. Now,

514
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:42,160
every time they add a diagnostic code that makes you sicker, they.

515
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Speaker 2: Get more money. The sicker you are, the more money

516
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they get.

517
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Speaker 3: If they keep denying and delaying your care, they're not

518
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spending it, they're pocketing it. And that's exactly what's going on.

519
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,039
And I will tell you. I know I've said this

520
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to you before. I don't want to say it or

521
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,759
on air. I've asked so many politicians tell me something.

522
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Tell me one thing that helped insurance companies do to

523
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increase positive outcomes in any healthcare case.

524
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Speaker 2: I know, And only one tried to answer me.

525
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Speaker 3: He's like, they collect data because we don't have enough

526
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universities and medical facilities and actual doctors and nurses and

527
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scientists to do that. We need some yall bulge Bullsharry

528
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,000
bullshit out of sitting in some office with his three

529
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thousand dollars suit. Yeah, you know, flying in his Gulf

530
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:30,160
Stream jet over to his freaking yacht on our Medicare

531
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tax dollars.

532
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what.

533
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Speaker 3: Medicare advantage is absolutely freaking horrible and it's one of

534
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,200
the biggest fleasing of America that has ever happened has

535
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:43,000
been medicare advantage. And how much money these multi millionaire

536
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:45,880
billionaire people are making on the backs of the working

537
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,240
poor while they're denying them chemo, denying them care. I mean,

538
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,799
you remember the doctor that wrote the letter yelling at

539
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:58,559
them for denying Yeah, kid with cancer, the zaufriend from

540
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,640
the nausea. How how got a role that felt to

541
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:04,079
read that doctor's letter like no doctors should ever have

542
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,440
to do that. I've watched doctors on the Hill practically

543
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,160
in tears in front of committees, to the Senator saying, please,

544
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:14,480
I have cance children with cancer that need access to

545
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:18,319
this drug. We're supposed to have orphan disease access. Why

546
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:22,599
don't we have it? And the politicians, Yeah, that's why

547
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:25,920
I think a scientist on the hill who understands the

548
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real of these decisions. Yes, I want somebody up there

549
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,839
who actually knows that when you don't pay attention to this,

550
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people die.

551
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Speaker 4: Exactly.

552
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Speaker 1: There's another there's another reason. Nobody ever talks about this part.

553
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But I think there's another reason why we why Americans

554
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,599
tolerate such a broken healthcare system. We're conditioned from a

555
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,039
young age to accept and to believe that we have

556
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a great healthcare system. Because when you're young and you're healthy,

557
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and if you're like I remember being, you know, young,

558
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and hell, knock on wood, I'm still healthy even at

559
00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:02,880
the age I haven't had anything catastrophic go wrong. I'm lucky.

560
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But but when I remember being young and having a

561
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full time job working for a company that had what

562
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I assume was was really good health insurance because I

563
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:13,240
never had to use much of it, and you know,

564
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:15,880
so you get conditioned to Okay, i'm young, i'm healthy,

565
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I've got a job. Oh I'm sick, I'm gonna go

566
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to the doctor. I might have a small copay whatever,

567
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I've got health insurance by my company. I'm covered. I'm

568
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:26,440
never even gonna see a bill. I'm gonna pay. I'm

569
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gonna pay the cope and that's it. And then go

570
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on with my life, and you know, assuming nothing terrible

571
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,240
is wrong with me, take whatever, antibiotic, whatever, and life

572
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:37,240
goes on. So so you're conditioned from a young age

573
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when you first enter the workforce that everything's great, everything,

574
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everything's easy. With health care, it's and if you're lucky

575
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,079
enough to to have health, you know, well into middle

576
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age and old age. Then you might go your entire

577
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life without any without even a clue that there's anything

578
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wrong in the healthcare system if you're one of the

579
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lucky ones. But we're conditioned from a young age to

580
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believe that the American healthcare system is great because you know,

581
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unless something bad happens to you, God forbid, you have

582
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no way of knowing.

583
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Speaker 3: Right exactly the rest of the world they're doing preventive medicine.

584
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Speaker 2: Here, we're doing cleanup.

585
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another issue too, there's not enough. But that's yea.

586
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Speaker 3: God because of exactly that the conditioning your conditioned to

587
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think you only.

588
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Speaker 2: Go to the doctor's when you don't feel good. You

589
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:24,559
don't talk to the.

590
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Speaker 3: Doctor about how to be healthy, and the doctor doesn't

591
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have time to even do it.

592
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Speaker 4: And let's talk about some of the problems. Okay, I'm

593
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going to give you real life examples, and I'm sure

594
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Matt and Jen you guys can also add many more.

595
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,160
I'm just going to give you. Okay, here in Exeter,

596
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one of my best friends, he's seventy six years old.

597
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He's done everything in his life whatever he needed to do,

598
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,880
paid taxes, had a job, raise four kids. Now he's retired,

599
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:54,759
he receives Medicare, he has Social Security and he's a

600
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small pension. He's on fixed income. It is he has

601
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to be very careful. But of course, as he's aging,

602
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the opposite of the scenario that Matt just talked about,

603
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which is like, oh, everything's great. I go every so often.

604
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I don't have a lot of problems. While when you're

605
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,119
hit your seventies, even if you are fine all your life.

606
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,720
Now of course things are starting to slow down. You know,

607
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:20,839
your heart might need some support, your blood pressure, medicine

608
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:24,559
needs some support, et cetera. So he needs blood thinners.

609
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,359
He has a drill fibrillation. He needs blood thinners, and

610
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otherwise he's going to form blood clots. Medication costs a

611
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:34,799
lot of money. He has Medicare, but the code pay

612
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:39,039
is high. So does he What did he do? He

613
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:42,240
decided to ration his medicine. He's started to skip one

614
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:46,079
dose because two tablets a day. Maybe I can get

615
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:49,920
away with one tablet a day. What my friend suffered

616
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a stroke in the richest country in the world, A

617
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seventy six year old man who did everything by the books,

618
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:06,480
taxpayer everything, he suffers a stroke wrong and he is

619
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so wrong, Jen, it is so wrong. Let's let's scream

620
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that every single day to everyone. It is wrong. We

621
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should that is the status quo, and this is unacceptable

622
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:19,240
and we should not accept it. We should inform people

623
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:23,319
and say no, don't let the lawmakers fool us and say,

624
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,480
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but we're better than that other country.

625
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We're better than that other country. So I'll get to

626
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that because I used to buy into that criticism as well, like,

627
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,799
whoa are we done better than the other country. But

628
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at least my friend did survive. He stayed in the

629
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hospital for several days, he was released. He does it

630
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,599
does not appear that he has any permanent issue. So

631
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it's good but lucky, lucky, lucky. But now he's exactly well,

632
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:56,920
that's yeah, but he could have become one of the statistics.

633
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:02,119
We lose fifty thousand Americans, fifty thousand Americans each year

634
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,920
because of health insurance issues. Either they don't have insurance

635
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,679
or they're under insured because they you know, they yes,

636
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,519
they're issues, something's going on to their body, but they

637
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:17,239
can't afford to see the position. I mean, when you

638
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,360
have a limited amount of money. The first thing you

639
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,320
do is pay your rent. You do not want to

640
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,000
become homeless. Second thing you do is you have to

641
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:29,280
feed your body. Even with canned food bulk purchases, you

642
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,360
can only stretch that dollar so much. And maybe third

643
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:36,360
you fix your car because you got to get to

644
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,679
work or you have to do it. And then maybe

645
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:46,400
clothes healthcare becomes a luxury, exactly, shameful. Shame on us,

646
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:50,280
Shame on us that we find this acceptable, that we're

647
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putting we're torturing people in this.

648
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Speaker 2: Isn't that what Matt was talking about, right? We're conditioned

649
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to it. And that's why that's why I have the break.

650
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I'm happy about your campaign.

651
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:06,039
Speaker 3: Because conversations need to be happening louder, prouder, and up

652
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,719
on that hill and I find that mill for once

653
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,920
and for all. It's freaking change things for the better,

654
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:14,320
because this is getting worth every single day. And now

655
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,159
they just say, now, now we're going to introduce prior

656
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:21,880
authorizations into traditional medicare using AI.

657
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Speaker 2: That's the new regime twist.

658
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Speaker 3: They just announced that, so you know, obviously that's going

659
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to be something they have to fight again.

660
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Speaker 4: They just want to sueeze as much money out of

661
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,280
us as possible in every single way, and we are

662
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,039
just you know, we have to just get go along

663
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and be like, oh this is normal, Oh where's aren't

664
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we still better? Et cetera. I'll give you one more example,

665
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because I really I listen, I talk to people and

666
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I ask them what is what do you want to see?

667
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,079
And tell me what is going on in your life?

668
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:58,559
And that the stories you hear they're heartbreaking. Another person

669
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:03,480
said her loved one needed care. It was authorized by

670
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,000
their physician, but their insurance company wouldn't pay for it.

671
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That their their loved one died the same year that

672
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they lost their loved one because the health insurance company

673
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,360
she had, a private health insurance company, was not authorizing it.

674
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,519
That same year, the CEO of that insurance company made

675
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nineteen million dollars. That, Matt and Jen is blood money.

676
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,159
That is medical murder. We have to talk. How can

677
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we even have a word a term medical murder? That

678
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,920
is disgusting. This is like mass murder is going on.

679
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:45,880
Let's face it's.

680
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Speaker 2: It is.

681
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Speaker 3: It is when you deny people surgeries to save their

682
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,480
lives or medications. Yeah, and your friend had a stroke

683
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:58,960
that was preventable, and what damage was done was done.

684
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This is going to be ramifications for that. We all

685
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,760
want to live as long as possible. And I don't

686
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:09,719
care if if you make seven dollars an hour or

687
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,199
seventeen thousand dollars an hour, you like, it's crazy that

688
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:18,320
that person's life gets to be more valuable than somebody else's.

689
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You're working class Americans a bust in their humps.

690
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Speaker 2: Every dm D.

691
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Speaker 3: Everybody I talk to is co living because they can't

692
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,679
afford to live alone, or having a second job or

693
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,679
even a third job because the groceries are insane.

694
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Speaker 2: Right now, I want to talk to everything else that.

695
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: They're barely surviving as is, and they want to take

696
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,159
more and more and more and keep denying care, and

697
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:44,320
they just kill people off.

698
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:48,599
Speaker 4: You feel like squeezed you, like they're just what like

699
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,639
blood suckers?

700
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Speaker 2: What more?

701
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:53,519
Speaker 3: Make people feel like you're worthless, Like my life doesn't

702
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:56,880
matter anymore. I've rationed my care. My life mattered when

703
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,840
I was at EMT and I worked in the hospital,

704
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,519
But after I got care and couldn't do that anymore,

705
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,679
I guess it doesn't matter anymore now because now I

706
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:06,679
have to fight for treatments.

707
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: Or deal with just figuring.

708
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Speaker 3: Out the costs for myself for medications whatever. And that's

709
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Medicare disadvantage. That's what I'm stuck on. Unless the government changes,

710
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,239
I'm stuck. And so many other people out there are

711
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,599
just like that. And like you said, they get denied

712
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:27,199
home care, they get deny long term care, short term

713
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,320
rehab care so they can have a life again. I

714
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,320
have a friend who lost her dad who was denied

715
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,039
rehab care.

716
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: It's it's disgusting, and it's because that's the one the

717
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:40,320
Hill are allowing it to happen. Bottom line, they allow it.

718
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:44,679
Speaker 4: Yes, so we have to you guys have an awesome platform.

719
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,320
You have to spread the word. Okay, you cannot talk

720
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,280
about healthcare every.

721
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:51,039
Speaker 3: Day, but I know I feel bad that we've like

722
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,320
monopolized that.

723
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's okay. But the same formula that's

724
00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:02,519
causing that herd with healthcare is actually the same formula

725
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,239
that's impacting us for the housing crisis, the childcare crisis,

726
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,679
the cost of living crisis many ways, so the minimum wage.

727
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,719
So let's also talk about other ways people are suffering.

728
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,400
So here in New Hampshire we have such a dire

729
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:23,159
condition as far as housing is concerned, big time, big time.

730
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:27,840
We are twenty four thousand units short right now, right now,

731
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,599
twenty four thousand units short in a population of one

732
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:37,119
point four million. Wow, that's huge, people. I think that

733
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:43,559
I looked at the inventory rate for certain municipalities. Sometimes

734
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:46,719
it's as low as half a percent or one percent.

735
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,599
Vacancy rate is it's almost not there. So when you

736
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,880
want to move from one apartment to the other, well,

737
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,400
you don't have an option, and the expense rate is

738
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,559
so high. Again, I'm going to use examples because that's

739
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:06,800
exactly how I understand how to explain the gravity of

740
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,519
the situation right here and right here. In exeter, a

741
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:15,400
friend her she was talking about her her grown daughter.

742
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,000
I call everyone a friend. I'm sorry, but when you

743
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:20,920
have these raw conversations.

744
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:22,519
Speaker 2: Right there's a connection there.

745
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 3: You're like that kind of personal Yes, exactly, I got it.

746
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just you know, to somebody to tell me

747
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,400
how much they're you know, they take out their bill, like,

748
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,760
come on, Grachman, let's talk about my bill. I want

749
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,280
to show you my COPEI so, or they want to

750
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,960
show their condition of their house. They need some repair,

751
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,840
but they can't afford it, So you become like, Okay,

752
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,000
that's that's really raw conversations. These are not like hi, hello,

753
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:53,760
these are real conversations. So this person her, she's seventy seven.

754
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,719
Her story is also terrible. So I'm going to touch

755
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,000
on that are not terrible in the sense, but it's difficult,

756
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:02,960
I should say. But her child has a job, she's

757
00:41:03,159 --> 00:41:06,440
in her thirties, she has a good job. She can

758
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,280
afford an eleven hundred dollars in an apartment, which you

759
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,519
would say is not a bad amount of money. Eleven

760
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:15,559
hundred is a good amount of money. In Exeter, she's

761
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:20,480
renting a basement space. It's not an apartment, it's a space.

762
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,440
There are no windows, there's only one door to the

763
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,480
main stairs to the main floor, which means if there's

764
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:33,239
a fire, she's stuck. There is no other exit. It's

765
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,840
an illegal basically, it's an illegal space. But that's what

766
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,920
she can afford. There's no heating, there's no cooling, so

767
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:43,199
she has to have, you know, space heaters, she has

768
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,679
to have air conditioners, because that's just an unfinished basement

769
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,800
for eleven hundred dollars. In again, in the richest country

770
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,039
in the world and someone who has a good job. Her,

771
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,760
she has a good, big job. We're not even talking

772
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,440
about minimum wage now, this is a person who's actually

773
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,639
making good money.

774
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: Yes, this is what they can afford.

775
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:06,679
Speaker 4: Is that acceptable? Man?

776
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:10,039
Speaker 1: No, we should not accept.

777
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,039
Speaker 4: The status quo. The lawmakers want us to say, Oh,

778
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,360
you know, things are bad, but you know whatever, national security,

779
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,639
oh my god, crime rate, oh my god, what us

780
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,039
distract us? Oh yeah, let's hate those people over there,

781
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:26,519
let's marginalize another group, but don't pay attention to your

782
00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:27,360
real problems.

783
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:34,079
Speaker 1: So what's the solution? Karishma on that, I mean a

784
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:34,719
good question.

785
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 4: Yes, let's talk about Okay, we will try to touch

786
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:40,519
on an issue. We will try to touch on the

787
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:42,920
root cause, and then we'll try to touch on the solution.

788
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:44,920
So what is the root cause of the problem. Why

789
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,519
do we have a housing crisis? Simple? We just don't

790
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:51,000
have enough houses? Yeah, okay, is that? First of all?

791
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:53,159
How do we get to this situation? The government's job

792
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,400
is you know, we have pretty smart people working in government.

793
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,679
Maybe not at the top, but they're really good workers

794
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,800
out there. They are supposed to calculate. You know, we

795
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,920
are increasing, The population is increasing, even though new Hampshire.

796
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:11,920
We're not growing at the rate of many other states,

797
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,119
and because we're losing a lot of young people are

798
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:15,599
moving out.

799
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: They just ye they graduate and yes, but.

800
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 4: At the moment we are we are still seeing people

801
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:26,400
moving into New Hampshire. So we have but the rate

802
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,639
of growth is slull, but it's still we're growing, so

803
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:31,800
we need more housing. So what are the problems. One

804
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,840
is those airbnbs, so it has taken out a lot

805
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,960
of housing off the market because they are now go ahead.

806
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: True, I never thought about that.

807
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. It never occurred to me.

808
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 4: So it's not the main problem, no, no, but it

809
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,159
is the problem because if you go to for example,

810
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,800
Rye Beach or you go to a lot of these places,

811
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:57,440
those houses are just sitting there empty until the weekend

812
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:00,440
or maybe a labor day long weekend. That's it. Otherwise

813
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,079
they're just that's a housing unit. As far as the

814
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:06,400
state is concerned. There is a certain number of housing units,

815
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,519
but we are it's not occupied right. The other is

816
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:12,719
second or third homes of people either living in New

817
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,679
Hampshire and they own a second or third home, or

818
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,480
people from out of state who own a second or

819
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:18,679
third home in New Hampshire, and we have to deal

820
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,320
with those in a different way. But that's another Again,

821
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,760
you're taking a housing housing unit off the market, right

822
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,280
but you're not using it one hundred percent of the time,

823
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,719
but you're taking it, okay. And corporations have also come

824
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,440
in their landlords and they're also purchasing a large number

825
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,840
of these like these improvment complexes. Okay, that one is

826
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,599
not necessarily taking housing off the market, but they are

827
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:48,159
definitely causing rise in the price. Okay. Way, the one

828
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,079
biggest way we can help right away, Matt. First of all,

829
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,360
we have to do something about all these housing units

830
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,960
that are not used all the time. We have to

831
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,159
either we have to find a way for people. I mean, okay,

832
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,639
let's not talk about that. The biggest problem is we

833
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:07,159
have a low inventory. We have to build houses. We

834
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,920
have to use us DA funds for rural They actually

835
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,480
have the usdas US Department of Agriculture, They actually have

836
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,599
rural housing funds for communities that are in the rural north.

837
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:23,599
For example, our North Country will qualify. Some parts of

838
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:30,079
the West Western towns will qualify. We actually can use

839
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,239
USDA funds to build houses there. The other is hud

840
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:38,960
Housing and urban development they actually have. These are federal

841
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:42,960
dollars you can use to build build units. The state

842
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,800
has to work with it because the state there are

843
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,559
unique space and some if it's owned by the city

844
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:51,079
or it's owned by the town, then there are a

845
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:53,559
lot of rules or regulations. You can work with the

846
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,639
city in town to figure out what can be built,

847
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,079
what is allowed, and hopefully multi unit complexes because you know,

848
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:05,840
then you're utilizing a space better. But they're also state

849
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,039
owned spaces, right, you can also use that because then

850
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:11,199
you don't have to worry about the rules and regulations

851
00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:15,840
of each town and each each city. So if you

852
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,440
want to look at two towns that are doing really

853
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:23,719
well with this multi family multi unit system, it's Sportsmouth

854
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,880
and Dover. Yeah, Sportsmouth and Dover they're doing really well.

855
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,119
So they have single family homes, they have you know whatever.

856
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:33,679
People want to always protect their little single family home acreage.

857
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,159
But you can also have town homes, or you can

858
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:39,960
have apartment complexes, maybe multi story. You have to have

859
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:43,519
mixed use. And then within the downtown area, maybe you

860
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:46,920
can have like the bottom floors all about businesses, restaurants

861
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,239
and stores, and the top units are all apartments. That's

862
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,119
how we have to build right now. The only thing

863
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:56,559
that keeps getting passed through Congress is one program called

864
00:46:56,599 --> 00:46:59,039
and I don't want to go all boring on you guys.

865
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 2: Okay, no, good.

866
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 4: It's called li tech, and I want to okay, I

867
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,599
want to make sure I get the acronym right, low

868
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,880
income Housing tax Credit l i HTC LI tech. That's

869
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,079
really popular. If you look at the LI tech related

870
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:17,280
bills that are in Congress, they get a bipartisan support.

871
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,000
What is that LI tech? It sounds like a great idea. Oh,

872
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:23,840
we are good. I look, as far as lawmakers are concerned,

873
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,920
they can say I've sponsored this wonderful bill to help

874
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,039
with the housing crisis. And then you look at the

875
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:31,199
bill and you're like, oh, okay, that's a great you know,

876
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,440
that's a good piece of bill. But what is happening

877
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,760
with li tech? It gives tax credits to developers. Oh,

878
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,079
I'm going to bore all of you.

879
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,599
Speaker 1: Sorry, no, no, I'm I'm glad you're going down this

880
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,119
road because I'm actually a big.

881
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: Fan of You want to understand, I'm a big.

882
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: Fan of using the tax code to stimulate.

883
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: Yes, too true, but that so you give tax credits

884
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,400
to the developers, and you say you are eligible to

885
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,840
receive this tax credit if you build a complex and

886
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,079
you put away a certain number of units and consider

887
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:08,559
them housing low income housing. And then the developer says, okay, great,

888
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:11,880
I'll get some government subsidized tax credits. I'm going to

889
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,000
build it. What happens is it's a two thousand page codebook.

890
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,840
Developers hate it. They don't like it for two reasons.

891
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,920
One is it's way too complicated, and the second reason

892
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,920
is that tax credit is going to work over ten years,

893
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:33,519
and the developer who's building that housing unit now needs

894
00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:35,719
the money now, not over the course of ten years.

895
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:39,039
So what they do is they may still accept it,

896
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:41,320
but then they turn it around and sell it back

897
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,519
to Wall Street or to the bankers. It's another way

898
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:47,960
to siphon federal money and back to Wall Street. That

899
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:51,159
is why it's so popular. That's why it gets biparties

900
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:55,320
and support. It's like, hey, they big money, We're like, hey,

901
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,159
we love this lintec anyways. But the other thing is

902
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,079
if you look at because of the codes and the

903
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:04,800
regulations are so complicated. Like I said, a lot of

904
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,519
developers just shun away. But the ones who even still

905
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:12,599
take advantage. The cost of each unit on a li

906
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,039
tech funded unit versus a non light tech funded unit,

907
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,039
it actually costs more because there's just so much hurdle

908
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:22,320
that they have to go through. They can only purchase

909
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,800
certain kind of products, they can only purchase building certain ways,

910
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,920
so actually the per cost per unit becomes higher than

911
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,239
if they did not worry about l tech and they

912
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,559
just built. So yeah, go ahead. Ly tech is approved.

913
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,599
You know, it's always passed, it's got biopartisan support. But

914
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:44,679
it will never ever help us mitigate the housing crisis.

915
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:47,440
It's just another way for lawmakers to get away by

916
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,559
saying I'm helping, aren't I No, you're not. You're just

917
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,480
it's a band aid. Okay, Jen, let's go. Let's use healthcare.

918
00:49:54,639 --> 00:49:57,719
It's like you have a fractured leg and instead of

919
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,000
fixing up that bone, you put a little band aid.

920
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:02,159
Speaker 2: Look right, I want to tape it together.

921
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 4: I'm going to tape it together.

922
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm glad that you went there, because now it

923
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,000
makes more sense to me. Why it's why you don't

924
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,519
see as much affordable housing going up, Why all these

925
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:16,360
expensive apartment buildings are going up, Because even if they

926
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,719
wanted to go that route. It's so convoluted and costly

927
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,079
that are incentivized to make expensive places.

928
00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: I still got its core. It's a good idea, but

929
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,920
obviously there's problems.

930
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it used to be more workable, more use.

931
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 4: So, Matt, the best is for HUD to give federal

932
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,239
funds to build housing units. That's it, and not say

933
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,280
low income or market will adjust itself. If you have

934
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,719
enough housing, you don't have to worry about low income

935
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,519
housing or high income housing ar et cetera, or luxury apartments.

936
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,199
It will just adjust itself. Right now, like I said,

937
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,320
eleven hundred dollars for a basement space that should not

938
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,519
even be as occupied space that should not even be

939
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:04,440
on the market. But because of the scarcity and the

940
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,440
low inventory, it becomes an issue. And that's why the

941
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:10,679
and then the landlords are keeping whatever units are there.

942
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,880
People keep raising the prices, and that's where the corporate

943
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,480
landlords come in. They come in, they buy up a

944
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,840
whole apartment complex, multiple complexes, and Blackstone is known for

945
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,519
doing that. Black Rock is for doing it. And we're

946
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:27,440
not gonna say a certain person owns what. We're not

947
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:33,360
gonna Okay, we're not going to go there, Jen another day, Yeah,

948
00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:35,920
cover up some state apparently was on the board.

949
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: Seems to be an awful lot of politicians involved, yes,

950
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,159
and owning stock and these companies that are making a

951
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,480
ton of money, a ton of money, and then we're like, huh,

952
00:51:47,199 --> 00:51:49,119
how many And there's a lot of that here in

953
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:52,719
New Hampshire. We see that corporations buying up like even

954
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,800
that one rudout they bought like three three family houses

955
00:51:58,039 --> 00:52:01,519
because I've noticed their signs going up on three family houses.

956
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,599
Speaker 2: And then they just.

957
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 4: Little tweak Yeah, they little tweaks. They changed the stove out,

958
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:10,239
they maybe put a laminate countertop, and they're like, oh

959
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,119
now the housing, the apartment is going to be three

960
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:16,000
hundred dollars more or five hundred dollars more. Suddenly, okay,

961
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:20,480
now it's considered mid luxury apartments. Yes, exactly. So there

962
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,519
are so many ways, Matt. If there's a will, there's

963
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:27,199
a way. There is no will. There is no will.

964
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,559
Speaker 2: Now there is minimum wages seven to twenty five.

965
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,039
Speaker 4: Minimum wage is still seven twenty.

966
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: I feel a great responsibility on that. It's awful. It's awful,

967
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,719
And Jen, okay, not to can't run into.

968
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 3: The apartment on seventy twenty five. You kid even eat

969
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,000
on seven to twenty five.

970
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 4: So, Jen, when I was we were so a lot

971
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,440
of times people have hardships and when I there was

972
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,440
a time in my life when we were dirt poor.

973
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,079
So and back then the minimum wage is four to

974
00:52:57,079 --> 00:53:01,079
twenty five. And this is the early nineteen nineties, Yes,

975
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:05,639
about nineteen nineties, mid nineteen nineties minimum wait was four

976
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,800
twenty five. We worked seven days a week. I had

977
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,719
a morning job, I had an afternoon job, and had

978
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:20,039
an evening job seven days a week. You still, oh

979
00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:24,320
my god, you have read why? Oh you're just yes,

980
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,000
And there's no health insurance, there's no job security. Oh yeah,

981
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,840
like I had a waitressing job. Okay, you know, I'm sorry.

982
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,280
It's not easy. Shout out to the servers. It is

983
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,320
easy at all.

984
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,599
Speaker 2: And there wing down.

985
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 4: And the kids keep spilling the milk and you're cleaning

986
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,880
out and then they leave you little bits of money.

987
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,719
It is, be nice to servers. I was a server

988
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,159
for a long time. It is. It is a cruel job. Anyways,

989
00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:58,800
But where was I going with this? Oh? You there's

990
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,519
no job security and there's no health insurance. Nothing, it's

991
00:54:01,559 --> 00:54:05,679
just a gig labor, right, And then sometimes you're really mistreated,

992
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,039
like I was told the bathroom had like I think

993
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:11,079
something happened, and I was told to go clean it.

994
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:13,039
I'm like, I'm not gonna go clean it. That's not

995
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:15,039
my job. And that manager said, if you don't go

996
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:17,639
clean it right now, you're fired. That's how they talk

997
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:17,920
to you.

998
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how they talked to you.

999
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 4: I said, you can fire me. I was hired as

1000
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,039
a not that okay, I'm sorry. Sorry, anyone who's a janitor,

1001
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:29,960
my heart goes out to you. It is it is

1002
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:32,880
so much work. It is such hard ship, right, but

1003
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,440
it's the But the way I was being treated by

1004
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,199
the manager, like threatened to be fired right away because

1005
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,599
there's no job security, you know, And you're like, why

1006
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:43,880
don't you ask the others? Like I wasn't sure if

1007
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,639
I was getting picked on. I don't know if it

1008
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:47,800
was a race thing, but anyways, but I was being

1009
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,960
asked even though there were several other servers standing around

1010
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,760
fit anyways, who knows what was going on, but I

1011
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,880
do remember. What I remember was the way I was

1012
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:59,960
being treated. Listen to me, or you're fired, how cruel. Yeah,

1013
00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:01,880
they because they.

1014
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: Know you need the job, right right, Yeah, yeah it is.

1015
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,159
Speaker 2: I've had my share of really crappy jobs. We'll talk

1016
00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:11,440
about some other ways.

1017
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 3: But again, the employers could feel like they could get

1018
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,000
away with it, Yes, because what.

1019
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,599
Speaker 2: Are you going to do? You need the more you got.

1020
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:21,280
You can't go home without a paycheck.

1021
00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 4: I can I touch on one thing Matt said earlier,

1022
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,519
but we have moved on from health care. But I

1023
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:27,320
wanted to touch.

1024
00:55:27,159 --> 00:55:30,039
Speaker 2: On everything you want to talk about. Go for it.

1025
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,119
Speaker 4: Matt touched on, like we are always conditioned to feel

1026
00:55:33,159 --> 00:55:35,800
that we still have the best healthcare system, and we

1027
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,719
have a great healthcare system, no doubt about it. If

1028
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,639
you have a certain amount of money, and you have

1029
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:44,719
a certain job, and your employer actually has is able

1030
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,360
to afford a high quality health insurance company. I'm not

1031
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,440
going to name it, but there are some health insurance

1032
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,679
companies which are not as blood suckers as hours.

1033
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: I get less blood suckery the more money you pay,

1034
00:55:56,519 --> 00:55:57,039
and the more.

1035
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,679
Speaker 1: Catal well, yeah, as long as you're made an asset

1036
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,360
and not a lot acid.

1037
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 4: But we're always told, oh no, don't look at this

1038
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,039
country or that country. Do you know when they need

1039
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:10,360
an MRI, they have to wait several months, et cetera. Right,

1040
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,199
and we're like, oh, yeah, you know what. Okay, but

1041
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,199
let's talk about that for a second, because I used

1042
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:20,880
to also believe in that like story line in all

1043
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,880
those countries. If you ask, I don't want to name it,

1044
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,159
but say Canada or Germany. You ask them and they

1045
00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:29,719
will say when if somebody needs an MRI or a

1046
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,519
procedure and it's an emergency procedure, they will get.

1047
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,679
Speaker 2: It right away.

1048
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 4: Yes, if it's a non acute care, if it's a

1049
00:56:38,119 --> 00:56:41,559
care that can be prolonged, then they become are put on.

1050
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,119
You know, there might be two months from now. But

1051
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,519
I'm so sorry. In America, even in the North Country,

1052
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,880
there are no more specialists left.

1053
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: Right, you need an MRI, you have to go to Boston, right.

1054
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: I let you go over the borders.

1055
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,559
Speaker 4: Yes, that you might have to go to Nashars or

1056
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:05,320
Portsmouth or Accident or if you're insurance, Yes, so please

1057
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:10,400
let's talk about that, because there are the providers are

1058
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:12,239
leaving New Hampshire.

1059
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:14,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.

1060
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,079
Speaker 3: That's a very serious issue and the reason we don't

1061
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:19,360
have more level two, Level one trauma sentence.

1062
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: Well, level two, I should say, is because we don't

1063
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,159
have the specialties required.

1064
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: You have to have neurosurgery, you have to have pediatrics, trauma,

1065
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:30,559
you have to have those things in order to have

1066
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:33,840
those higher levels of care. We don't have them because

1067
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:39,000
we don't have the specialists. Were medical impossible. Oh, they're

1068
00:57:39,079 --> 00:57:41,599
leaving the state in droves too, because they can't afford

1069
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:42,760
to practice there anymore.

1070
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 4: So therefore, when people criticize other healthcare systems, say please, people,

1071
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,000
come on, come on, go on. Wait wait, wait, wait, wait,

1072
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,639
let's look what's going on in our state. When people

1073
00:57:53,679 --> 00:57:56,039
need care, they're having to leave our state and go

1074
00:57:56,119 --> 00:57:56,960
to Massachusetts.

1075
00:57:57,079 --> 00:57:59,519
Speaker 3: Right now, it took me a year to get into

1076
00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:01,920
my neurala just I was on the waiting list for

1077
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,519
a year to go into my neurology. Those other stories,

1078
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:07,079
so they're right here, right here.

1079
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:10,199
Speaker 1: So yes, that's always my that's always my first thought

1080
00:58:10,199 --> 00:58:12,000
when I hear someone say, well, you know, in such

1081
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,559
and such country, you have to wait, you can't you know,

1082
00:58:14,599 --> 00:58:16,599
get everything right away. And it's like, so, how is

1083
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:18,239
that any different from what we have here.

1084
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:22,519
Speaker 3: In the unit. One of those I will admit I

1085
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:24,199
was one of those people that bought into that. I

1086
00:58:24,239 --> 00:58:27,639
really did think that day rationed care in Canada and

1087
00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:32,719
that must be why. And I started having those conversations

1088
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:36,159
with people, going, no, if my leg's broken, they're gonna

1089
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:36,639
fix it.

1090
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:39,599
Speaker 2: They've got to do an MRI. Yeah.

1091
00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: No, if I have something and I could, you know,

1092
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:44,280
it might you might have to wait for it.

1093
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,639
Speaker 2: But we do that here. You might have to wait.

1094
00:58:46,679 --> 00:58:48,519
When you get scared for an MRI around here, you

1095
00:58:48,599 --> 00:58:49,199
might be waiting.

1096
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't instantly, and even in an emergency, you

1097
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:56,519
don't necessarily. I got sent in for what they thought

1098
00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:59,639
could be bad. Then they actually finally got around to

1099
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:01,599
the image. I was like, this close to be in

1100
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:05,280
a really bad situation with three cervical discs in the

1101
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,039
most final cord. But I waited way too long to

1102
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:13,199
get that MRI walking around like that here in good

1103
00:59:13,239 --> 00:59:15,800
old America. I beg you, I might have gotten it

1104
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,199
faster in Canada.

1105
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna my husband is walking in, so I'm just

1106
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,719
gonna ask him to keep it low. I just texted him, oh, yeah, yeah,

1107
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:31,480
we're we're alive right now. But let's see Okay, So

1108
00:59:31,519 --> 00:59:35,320
we touched on healthcare. We touched on housing. We touched

1109
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,280
on corruption. I think we touched a little bit on

1110
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:42,719
corruption everywhere, right, the corruption politics, the big money in him. Yeah,

1111
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,840
we touched, so we are. I don't know what else

1112
00:59:48,159 --> 00:59:50,079
you guys want to talk about, Matt. I mean, there's

1113
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:56,159
so much going on in the I talked to two people.

1114
00:59:56,519 --> 01:00:00,519
They're twenty four or twenty five in New Hampshire. There working,

1115
01:00:01,239 --> 01:00:06,039
they're on their parents' insurance. They're free to turn twenty six. Yes,

1116
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,119
let's talk about that in the richest in the world,

1117
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:12,079
which I'm going to become like a broken record in

1118
01:00:12,119 --> 01:00:13,880
the richest country in the world, in the richest country

1119
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,320
in the world, I'm going to become a broken record.

1120
01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:23,039
Person who has an education, you know, has training and education,

1121
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:25,559
has done whatever needed to be done. Was told if

1122
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:28,079
you do X y Z, you will live the American dream.

1123
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,760
They are now apparently living the American dream. And they're

1124
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,320
free to turn twenty six because they have a job.

1125
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,119
But their jobs are not covering, not providing health insurance.

1126
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:43,320
That's another thing. Let's talk about that in America.

1127
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 3: And the marketplace is expected to go up increasingly next year.

1128
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,199
Some of the numbers I'm saying out there are pretty

1129
01:00:50,239 --> 01:00:54,519
scary as so what's going to happen in the marketplace? Insurances, medicare,

1130
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:56,960
premiums are growing up, but they've already announced that it

1131
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,719
was quite a bit too. Yeah, all these things are

1132
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:05,599
going up even more next year. So everything you're saying

1133
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:09,639
is going to get worse. So we gotta do These

1134
01:01:09,719 --> 01:01:13,480
mid term elections are vital in order for us to

1135
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:17,280
gain control on the hell and stop the bleeding and

1136
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,000
curb some of the deaths that are going to occur

1137
01:01:20,119 --> 01:01:23,079
from these These are I'm not catastrophizing either.

1138
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: These are really horrible things that.

1139
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: Are going on, and I'm worried that a lot of people,

1140
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,280
it's going to be millions and millions of people that

1141
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,360
are going to lose health insurance sex here because they're

1142
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,559
not going to be able to afford it off the

1143
01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:34,519
marketplace anymore.

1144
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: Right, It's just gonna be because.

1145
01:01:36,639 --> 01:01:42,159
Speaker 3: Those tax subsidies for the working class, the current regime

1146
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:47,159
has gotten rid of infect sending the ones for the

1147
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,039
one percent that holds all the money in the country.

1148
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: When you talk about the.

1149
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,039
Speaker 3: Richest in the world, the most of the money is

1150
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:54,840
that one percent.

1151
01:01:56,519 --> 01:01:58,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just going to say, in effect, they

1152
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:00,840
have repealed the affordable care, just not the way they

1153
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,679
wanted to. They didn't do it all at once like

1154
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:05,480
they wanted to do a show of it. But little

1155
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:06,920
bit by bit they've gotten it.

1156
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:09,519
Speaker 3: They've got the publics used to admit there was some

1157
01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:11,840
good stuff in They're like staying on the insurance until

1158
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:12,599
you're twenty six.

1159
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember when I turned eighteen. That was it.

1160
01:02:15,039 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: I had no health care, that was it because back

1161
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,119
in what I back in my day. But I remember

1162
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:25,639
you saying about the minimum When I started my first

1163
01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:28,480
health care job, I made three dollars an hour and

1164
01:02:28,519 --> 01:02:31,239
I got a ten cent raise when I became certified

1165
01:02:31,639 --> 01:02:35,320
as a nursing assistant. And you think about that, and

1166
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,960
it's seven twenty five now for minimum wage. And it's

1167
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,840
because we in New Hampshire screwed up. We got rid

1168
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,000
of our own minimum wage and we married ourselves to

1169
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:48,639
the FED. So unless the federal minium wage changes or

1170
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,960
the State of New Hampshire does something different, our minimum

1171
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:56,239
wage will never rise above seven to twenty five. And

1172
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,480
in some of the poorest places in this country, that's

1173
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:00,880
what people are barely living on.

1174
01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 4: And I've met people who make seven twenty five because

1175
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,000
a lot of times the lawmakers in New Hampshire will

1176
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say nobody in New Hampshire makes seven twenty five. Everyone

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makes fifteen or sixteen because of the McDonald's jobs. No

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people in New Hampshire. Some of them do make seven

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twenty five, and I've talked to them. Jen eighty is

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heartbreaking when they get a little bill like twenty five

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dollars bill which was not expected. My god, that's like

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what it's definitely.

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Speaker 2: Here's something I want to ask you about. So in

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what that effects is homeless people. People who are unhoused

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a lot of people who are unhoused have jobs.

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Speaker 3: They can't afford a place to live, so they're living

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in their car or maybe they were living in a tent.

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Speaker 2: But now we've criminalized.

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Speaker 3: Being unhoused and now they want to arrest people and

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put them in jail for being homeless or having a

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mental health issue. Like, how are you going? This is

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a huge issue? How do you want to how do

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you plan to address this?

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Speaker 4: So first of all, we have to take away Donald

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Trump's pens that he keeps signing those executive orders. Somebody

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take those pens away, please, he keeps signing these insane

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executive orders that are so cruel. Yeah, we have not

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been kind to our most vulnerable people. We have not

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been kind to people who have mental health issues. We

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have not been kind to our veterans, we have not

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been kind to people who are suffering from substance use

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disorder people. And a measure of a society is how

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you treat your most vulnerable. And we are failing over

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and over again. And we should not look at these

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people as you know, push them aside. No, these are

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human beings. They are down on their luck for many reasons,

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and we we should extend help them again. Housing where

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was it Norway one of those Scandinavian countries. I was

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reading that they actually try to instead of allow homeless

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people like to fend for themselves and you know whatever,

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however just pushing them under the rug. They actually have

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these housing models where they provide mental health counseling as

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well as a stable home, and then they allow and

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treatment and then they slowly over time, because once you've

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been homeless for five ten years, you've basically checked out.

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You have no no, the trust is gone. If you

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know why homeless people you see them on the side,

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why they're sleeping in the morning and the daytime, because

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at night they're awake. They're awake to protect themselves. That

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is the most where you're the most vulnerable at night

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if you want to sleep, so you don't sleep at night.

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Speaker 3: That's why you're so glad you said that, because a

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lot of people look at them and think, oh, they

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must be drunk or they must be drunk. Now it's like, nah, dude,

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this is the safest sleep they can get.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. I never thought of that. I'm

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pretty empathetic, but that never even occurred to me. Yeah,

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that's a great point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so we have to help. I mean, if

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we apparently have two hundred million dollars for a ballroom,

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if we have a billion or a plane that's not

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going to be even ready for four years. We have

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tillions of dollars. Apparently we are so rich. We can

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give trillions of dollars of tax cuts.

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Speaker 2: To the patio, the rose garden, we.

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Speaker 4: Can pave the rose garden, we can spend a military parades,

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military parades, and we have so much that we can spend,

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like we can fabricate stories about crime on our streets

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and send in the National Guards at a huge cost

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to the taxpayers. Apparently we are such a rich nation

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but not but not. Apparently we're also not a rich nation.

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So which what is true? Which one is it? Do

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we have a billion for somebody's plane?

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, we're retrofitting a Saudi Arabian plane.

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Speaker 2: Let ye take it.

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Speaker 3: And that's after his last term when he redesigned the

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existing air force one that was just finished.

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Speaker 2: But we can't house people, but we can't provide mental health.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean that's one trip alone. Not to just

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pick on the million dollar trips, because there's so much

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billions of dollars at getting wasted. So millions of dollars

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is like loose change now in the US government. But

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he went to it wasn't some golf course in Botlin.

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Speaker 2: To cut the ribbon on his own golf course.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's apparently we were really rich.

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Speaker 2: Jen I'll tell you something.

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Speaker 3: When I was overseas and that stuff was going on

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to build it, I never wanted to climb under a

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chair more in my life than when the screen filled

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up with the Scottish family talking about how horrible Trump's

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people were because they didn't want to sell their land,

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so they were blaring music and shining lights and harassing

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them and trying to force them out, and I wanted

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to climb under a chair. I was so like, oh my, like,

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I'm in in this other country watching this, like.

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Speaker 2: This is horrible. This is our president. Oh my god,

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this is horrible.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's an episode of Uh, there's an episode

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of the Sopranos where Tony Soprano did something like that

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to make someone leave the house that they were in.

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Speaker 4: Basically meant, are you saying that?

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Speaker 1: No? That just reminds me of an episode of The

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Sopranos too.

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Speaker 2: That's when I got the idea for all, you know, a.

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Speaker 4: Monster, a mobster and the president. Huh you see some comparison.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine if we actually had the ability in

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this moment to be able to snag that money back?

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Speaker 2: And what amazing things.

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Speaker 4: Those pens, those big markets do.

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Speaker 3: See, we need you elected, and then we need the

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hell the Senate and the House to create legislation to

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curb this. This is just it shows you. I've never

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been a favorite. I've never been a person who likes

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executive orders for this very reason, for this very fear

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that it can be abused and previous presidents have abused it,

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but not that it's extreme now, I mean to use

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the president's pen to criminize human beings for existing in

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a park in a tent, because that's literally all they have.

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Speaker 2: What do you want people to do?

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Speaker 3: At least in other countries in India trying to do

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they let people build makeshift houses. They're crappy places, but

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at least it's a roof over their head, they got

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warm food and a bugal sleep that in America won't

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even let that happen. And now they won't even let

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them put up a tent, like we won't let them

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have a space to just exist as a human.

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Speaker 4: It was heartbreaking to see there was like in DC,

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they were like the person would not leave his tent

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because that's his home, that's his livelihood, and they're dragging

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it off. I don't know, if you guys watch those videos.

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Speaker 3: It was just seeing it here happening in our own

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you know, happening here where they're taking down the tents

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and they're forcing people out.

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Speaker 2: Because yeah, that's happening right here at home too.

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Speaker 3: It's happening all across the country, and they're so vile

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about it. Vile and they'll take knives and they'll destroy things.

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Speaker 2: Well, they can't use it.

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Speaker 3: That's all this person has to their name, whatever they're

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and you're you're stealing everything, because that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's stealing.

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Speaker 3: They're taking whatever clothing, whatever's in that tent. They literally

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will come down sometimes with those claws and just pick

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the whole thing up and drop it in a dumpster,

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everything that was in it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, think about.

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Speaker 2: The human it's beyond dehumanizing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so the this is where cruelty is

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definitely trickling down from the White House.

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Speaker 1: M Oh yeah. The cruelty is the point.

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Speaker 4: The cruelty is the point.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, absolutely, they love.

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Speaker 2: It in the terms count big time.

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Speaker 3: It's the only way that we're going to be able,

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but not and change anything.

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Speaker 4: Not any Democrat, Jen, Not any democrat.

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Speaker 3: I need a Democrat who's going to actually listen. Yes,

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when I tell you medicare advantage is killing people. I

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want you to hear our stories and really take it

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in and don't send me a form letter say I

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like medicare advantage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Jen, I need not.

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01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: I can't have tone deaf. I need you to hear me.

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Speaker 4: These are public service jobs. We should not put our

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lawmakers in pedestals and be like, wow, you know they

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are so great. We can never be them. This is

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a public service job. It is their job is to

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serve the public. If they're not serving the public, then

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01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,960
please move on, go to do something else. Let someone

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01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,680
who actually cares just serve the public. Listen to the public,

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understand the problems, want to solve the problems. Let them

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have that position. The other thing I want to tell you,

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one of the most important things in a public servant

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is do you have a heart? And do you have

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a soul? I mean, do you even care?

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Speaker 2: You have empathy?

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Speaker 4: Do you have yes? Empathy? Do you even care?

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Speaker 3: And everybody want to walk around with a mirror, like

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what do you say when you look at this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but guys, I don't know if we're uh going

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to putting people to sleep now it's one minute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, God, for quite a while. But I really appreciate

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you giving me so much time.

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Speaker 4: I want to because we have to talk about so much.

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We need to talk about the F word, the fascism.

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Speaker 3: Yes, let's not beat around the bush, right, we are

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looking at a blief date.

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Speaker 4: It is not a future. We're it's we are here,

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so let's talk about it. But I think I don't know,

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I want to let the poor listeners off.

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Speaker 1: No, I think I think this is probably a good

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you know, a little bit over an hour, about an

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hour and fifteen minutes, you know, But we will definitely

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do this again in the near future if you like.

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I mean, this has been as a great conversation, Karishma.

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Do you want to mention your website again and anything

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else you want to make sure our listeners and viewers

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know about.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much so I launched last week. My

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website is actually on the you see it here.

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Speaker 2: I thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well I would be able to do that. Karishma

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for Senate dot Com. Karishma for Senate dot Com. I

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am from Exeter, I am a scientist. I'm running to

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basically help people. Housing crisis is out of control, childcare

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crisis is out of control. Healthcare crisis out of control,

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and we didn't touch on it. But our foreign policy

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is really bad. We are now committing genocide or we're

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complicit in genis and Gaza. We will touch on that.

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It is an heartbreaking, heartbreaking situation. We are basically looking

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at the destruction of two million human lives. They're being

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tortured to death, they're being start at death, bomb to death.

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Speaker 2: But we're going to.

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Speaker 3: Talk well where you are a candidate for peace, and

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I think that's very very important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, warfare and more humanity in this world.

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Speaker 4: Right, So please visit the website, please sign up because

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we need grassroots support. Donate. Please whatever you can afford,

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five dollars, ten dollars, whatever you can afford.

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Speaker 2: You are not taking money.

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Speaker 3: I think that's important for people to know you really

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are a grassroots candidate.

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Speaker 2: You are not accepting pack money.

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Speaker 3: And so this really is an effort of New hampshiretes

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who have a candidate who they want to really bring

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to the Senate, to bring home up to that hill.

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Speaker 2: It's not really corporate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, corporate, we're not getting hurt. Yeah. And then the

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other thing is uh, Jen I'm actually on the board

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of Open Democracy Action, which was started by Grannie B. Haddeck.

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I am inspired by Grannydee who were walked at age

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eighty nine from like help Washington, d C. To get

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rid of big money. I am from Open Democracy. We

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are working day in, day out to expose the corruption

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in our politics and.

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Speaker 2: Icon of New Hampshire. And I want to make sure

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our listeners. Yeah, I do want to make sure listeners

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know how to spell your name appropriately.

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Speaker 3: It is ROSA k A R I s h M

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A four f O R Senate s E n A

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t e dot com Karushma for senate dot com.

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Speaker 2: Check it out, sign up because we need you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Thanks Matt, Thanks Jen. Please uh

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it was a wonderful Thank you for talking about some

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very serious issues but we need to talk about These

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are difficult topics, but we need to talk about it

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and we have to solve the problems. So thank you

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so much for having me today.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely we will do this again in the near future.

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And thanks everybody for watching or listening to this edition

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of Matt Connorton Unleashed AF as we call it as

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it is the online only edition. And Jenny, thank you,

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and again not Chrishna, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys, thank you taking everybody.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye,