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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven to nine day now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>We're excited to be in our home state. I think

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<v Speaker 2>our fans are gonna come out and droves hopefully, and

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<v Speaker 2>our guys are excited to compete against a world class

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<v Speaker 2>coach in a high level program, in a very very

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<v Speaker 2>very dangerous team.

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<v Speaker 3>That was Pat Kelsey earlier today.

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<v Speaker 4>As we are now just less than twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 4>away from tipping it off, Louisville and Craigon tomorrow will

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<v Speaker 4>get the tournament started. As far as I'm concerned, I

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<v Speaker 4>know the playing games took place last night. There'll be

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<v Speaker 4>another couple of games tonight in Dayton. But of everything,

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to all the things I've bitched about

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<v Speaker 4>this week, when it comes to just the seating, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's really what.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, but there's layers to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, being the first game is maybe my biggest complaint,

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<v Speaker 4>just because just selfishly as a as a as a

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<v Speaker 4>you know, an anxious individual with anxiety, somebody who you

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<v Speaker 4>know worries more than I need to about things. I

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<v Speaker 4>overthink things. I know I'm not alone, but I'm probably

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that's just that's how I'm wired. Unfortunately, just

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<v Speaker 4>knowing that we're the first game like just has me

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<v Speaker 4>so uneasy about it. And it's it's nice to feel

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<v Speaker 4>alive again because we're not dead anymore. Pat Kelsey, this team.

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<v Speaker 4>The revival was a real thing. They brought us back

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<v Speaker 4>to life and it was great.

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<v Speaker 3>But if there was a.

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<v Speaker 4>Positive about being dead, you couldn't feel what this feels like.

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<v Speaker 4>And it feels great at the moment just because there's excitement,

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<v Speaker 4>but man, just the the worry of what tomorrow will

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<v Speaker 4>be like if it all comes to an end, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's where my nerves.

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<v Speaker 3>I've said that throughout the show today.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not worried about Creighton as far as them being

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, they could easily beat Louisville and Louisville

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<v Speaker 4>I think being a two and a half point favorite

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<v Speaker 4>makes some sense. So it's not like I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not worried about Creton. It's going to be a

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<v Speaker 4>cake walk. It's just knowing that if it doesn't work

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<v Speaker 4>out and you come up short, it's all over. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure I've sounded hilarious to some people out here

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<v Speaker 4>who don't have like the emotional connection to a team

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, and by the way, you're probably way

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<v Speaker 4>more normal than I am, and you know, props to you.

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<v Speaker 4>But the overall roller coaster of being a local basketball

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<v Speaker 4>fan in the last decade, knowing that it's been ten

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<v Speaker 4>years since we made the Second Weekend, six years since

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<v Speaker 4>we made the NAA Tournament, and then to go through

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<v Speaker 4>the last few years to have this now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's hard not to be this insane about it.

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<v Speaker 4>And again, I don't want to regurgitate too much, but

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<v Speaker 4>throughout the last few weeks, like that's what's really kind

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<v Speaker 4>of made me sad that this is going to end

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<v Speaker 4>soongardless of how many games they win in the tournament,

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't really know if if we'll have the

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<v Speaker 4>perfect storm like we've had this year where it all

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of came together the way it did. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm going to enjoy it as long as I can,

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<v Speaker 4>and who knows, maybe twenty four hours from now it'll

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<v Speaker 4>be a different it'll be a different situation. So again,

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville Place to March twelve, fifteen, We'll go live as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as it ends and react to whatever it is

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<v Speaker 4>that happens. It's either going to be a celebration as

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<v Speaker 4>we remain on the dance floor and get to the

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<v Speaker 4>round of thirty two and take over Rapperena on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 4>or it's going to be really sad and we'll just go,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we'll we'll, we'll have to get through it together.

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<v Speaker 4>Or if you want to join us on the show

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<v Speaker 4>today you can again It's Coffee and Company. Philbout Thorton's

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<v Speaker 4>here on Sports Talk seven ninety and the number to

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<v Speaker 4>go to the phone lines now and welcome in a

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<v Speaker 4>gentleman by the name of Hippie Lettuce Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>Longtime, no talk, Jeff. How we doing, brother?

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<v Speaker 5>Not too bad? Not too bad? Man. If I knew

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<v Speaker 5>that you were were that anxious man, I would have

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<v Speaker 5>dropped you off some R delicious chocolates or some Gommies

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<v Speaker 5>or something.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't worry about tomorrow, ma worry about itself.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me ask you this, Jeff, because I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 4>I gummies have been a big, a big part of

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<v Speaker 4>my life in a good way in the last few years.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, I don't want to be you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like I wanted to feel real right. Gummies would help

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<v Speaker 4>if they lose, because then I'll be, you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>be chilling. I won't be as as on edge. But

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<v Speaker 4>like if they win, I don't want to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>sleep walking through it. You gotta you gotta get me

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<v Speaker 4>the right you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know world right Bounce is about twenty milligrams and and

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<v Speaker 5>and you just take it and you're easy chilled. Twenty

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<v Speaker 5>milligrams would last you good four hours, six hours, and

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<v Speaker 5>I mean you should only have anxiety about that long anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>because you'd be going to sleep and then you wake

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<v Speaker 5>up in the morning and take it one. Just take

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<v Speaker 5>one in good morning when you wake up. What's your cereal? Well,

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<v Speaker 5>and Poppy want is to deserve a cereal? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>And then I mean the game will be here and

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<v Speaker 5>then that's what you really need to worry about, because

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<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you what, Son, I'm not worried about Auburn.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be honest. If we make it past Craton, we're

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<v Speaker 5>in the sweet sixteen. That's my opinion. I've I've kind

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<v Speaker 5>of kept an eye on Craton and I've lost in

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<v Speaker 5>one the shekel or two on them. Ye, so uh,

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<v Speaker 5>just good advice tomorrow is you might want to take

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<v Speaker 5>two gummies because tomorrow is the day.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, uh yeah uh And anyway, man, one other thing, man,

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<v Speaker 7>I feel bad for the sacrificial land they called San

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<v Speaker 7>Diego State because they sure set them guys up.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they let North Carolina line in to begin with,

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<v Speaker 5>and then at the press and media random mouth about it.

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<v Speaker 5>So Carolina they got talent. What are they gonna do? Man,

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<v Speaker 5>I bet the arm on them and I one my

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<v Speaker 5>farm was only eight bucks. Hey, but that's right. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>this is a great silling. I ain't felt I guess

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<v Speaker 5>in six years. Man, good stuff taking off work. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't care if the ball has heard me or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Take care of that's hippy letters, Jeff. Yeah, so he

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<v Speaker 4>lost a couple of yes on Yeah. So a lot

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<v Speaker 4>to unpack there. But yeah, when it comes to when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to the gummies, you know, and I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not even well.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm working.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a couple of different clients, potential clients that I've

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<v Speaker 4>talked to and and and you know, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to mention any specific place where I get the product from,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, I've I've I don't know what we're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about this today, but it has become like the

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<v Speaker 4>best thing for me when it comes to my anxiety.

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<v Speaker 4>And and you know, finding that perfect balance is is

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit tricky at times because I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>adrenaline can can can change the level of like you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, Like if you've got adrenaline, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>you wouldn't feel the effect like you would if the

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<v Speaker 4>adrenaline wasn't so high. So anyways, if there's one person

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<v Speaker 4>that may be able to get me on track with

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<v Speaker 4>what what you know, balancing out what I need, it

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<v Speaker 4>may be Hippy.

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<v Speaker 3>Letters Jet of course sounds experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Cereal and gummies to get the day started very very nutritious.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, look, Creighton, we talked about this yesterday. They

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<v Speaker 4>they clearly have an elite player in Ryan coch Printer Cookbrner.

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<v Speaker 3>It just met her. Yeah, I mean, can I take

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<v Speaker 3>it to dinner first?

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<v Speaker 5>Geez?

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<v Speaker 4>We haven't done that enough, have we? And I hope

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<v Speaker 4>people can sense the sarcasm because you know, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>we give you way, we give you way more childish

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<v Speaker 4>humor than you probably want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, we haven't done it enough.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, he's he's a he's a he's a

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<v Speaker 4>presence that you just aren't gonna see very often in

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<v Speaker 4>college basketball because he's a giant and he's productive. Uh

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, they don't they don't really like to

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<v Speaker 4>play in transition. He's not you know, nobody really his

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<v Speaker 4>size is going to be able to really run the floor.

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<v Speaker 4>Great now, if you do, you probably are in the

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<v Speaker 4>NBA because that's what the game is at the pro

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<v Speaker 4>level now. So you know, as much as he is

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<v Speaker 4>a real issue for you and you got to you

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<v Speaker 4>got to make sure you prepare for him and and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, contain him as best you can, there's also

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<v Speaker 4>some things you could do that will make him uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's been shown this year with Creighton. Also, you

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<v Speaker 4>know their point guard who is you know, he's he's solid, Ashworth,

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<v Speaker 4>He's he's a playmaker in both aspects. He's a scorer,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's also somebody that can really distribute. And again

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<v Speaker 4>I said this earlier in the week, and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I feel like this was this. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>say this to kind of, you know, take a shot

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<v Speaker 4>at Chucky by any means, But Chucky's been one of

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<v Speaker 4>the leaders and assists all throughout college basketball this year,

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<v Speaker 4>and Steven Ashworth has more total assist than Chucky. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>Chucky also missed a game and a half and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 4>So I just I tried to mention that more so

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<v Speaker 4>to just put him, you know, to let you know,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy really is is a big time distributor. But

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<v Speaker 4>also you know, there aren't many others that do that

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<v Speaker 4>on his team, right, I mean, outside of him, you've

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<v Speaker 4>got Jamia and Eel who's another guard of theirs who

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<v Speaker 4>starts plays thirty four minutes a game. He's averaging about

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<v Speaker 4>four assists. But after that, I mean, they really don't

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<v Speaker 4>have anybody else that can create for others pop Isaac's.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, if you would just look up the

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<v Speaker 4>Creighton stats, you'll see these guy's numbers that think, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna have to be prepared for this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>He's been hurt since I don't think he's played since

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<v Speaker 4>the beginning of December. Yes, so he was a big

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<v Speaker 4>time transfer for them, and I forget where he played

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<v Speaker 4>at and that's sort of yeah, he played at Texas Tech.

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<v Speaker 4>That's sort of why things you know. I don't say

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<v Speaker 4>they fell apart, but they were. Creighton was expected to

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<v Speaker 4>be a really good team this year, and sure enough,

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<v Speaker 4>they ended up they ended up losing one of their

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<v Speaker 4>better players. He was averaging sixteen points for assists a games,

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<v Speaker 4>So you know he's been you know, not having not

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<v Speaker 4>having him has been has been one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 4>why you know this Creighton team, you know, it's probably

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<v Speaker 4>in a position where they feel like they should have

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<v Speaker 4>been better than their seed line is. But back to Ashworth.

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<v Speaker 4>He can score it, he can distribute, but also Louisville

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<v Speaker 4>should be able to speed him up and make him uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 4>He has a ton of turnovers. He has more turnovers

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<v Speaker 4>than anybody in college basketball. A wild stat but is true.

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<v Speaker 4>So for every little thing you see about this creating

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<v Speaker 4>team that understandably worries you and is concerning, there's also

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<v Speaker 4>some things that make them vulnerable. Right, they don't foil

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<v Speaker 4>a lot, and I don't know what to make of that. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>they foil fewer than fewer than they commit fewer fouls

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<v Speaker 4>a game than anybody in the country, not only the tournament,

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<v Speaker 4>the free throw line, and if you're not fouling very often,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they actually ended up putting together a really

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<v Speaker 4>sort of a battle that I'm anxious to see who

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<v Speaker 4>this what they want right, playing defense but not fouling,

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<v Speaker 4>have to foul to where you know you're spending a

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<v Speaker 3>And again, Louisville at the line.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially with guys like Chucky Fat Edward's rain, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>if they're at the line pretty periodically throughout the game,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a good sign that, I mean, you're guaranteed to win.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, I think that's that's a pretty good sign.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think this is a very even matchup in

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<v Speaker 4>all aspects. And you just hope that the home court

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<v Speaker 4>advantage for Louisville can can can come into play. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Louisville didn't have rain the last few games,

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<v Speaker 4>and obviously that's that's you know, like that's not something

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<v Speaker 4>like we keep forgetting about. But what I think I'm

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like I'm unaware of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I guess just because I've had that fear of

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<v Speaker 4>I just started thinking about life without him. But he

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<v Speaker 4>able to go. I mean, I guess crazier things have happened,

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<v Speaker 4>but it just comes down to, you know, how rusty

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<v Speaker 4>very comfortable today, looked very loose, was knocking down shots.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, what they did today in the open practice

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<v Speaker 4>is nothing like what you're gonna see tomorrow. But as

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<v Speaker 4>we get closer, I'm sure it's just you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>natural fan emotion that comes with this stuff, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>getting more confident as the show goes on. Today I

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned I called my mother today on the way in

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<v Speaker 4>and she told me she's feeling good about the game.

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<v Speaker 4>She's feeling confident about Creighton and I you know, so

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<v Speaker 4>we got my mom, my sweet wanerful mother. We got

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<v Speaker 4>Hippie Lettuce, Jef, that's not worried about the Creighton Blue Jays.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they may not even show up tomorrow. When

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<v Speaker 4>they hear Hippie Lettus, Jeff and my mother, they don't

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Jeff, miss it's Donahue, right, that's right at that house?

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<v Speaker 3>How about that nice?

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<v Speaker 8>You know I I've mispronounced her as coffee. So yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 8>most people disrespectful. Well, I mean you wouldn't know. It's

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<v Speaker 8>totally normal. I mean it's trust me. Like my my sister,

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<v Speaker 4>And she has the name of her her ex husband,

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<v Speaker 4>who a lot of people now don't know. So therefore,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, people say you Emily Coffee and she's like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>actually it's an you know, so anyways, like it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>a very common thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't feel bad.

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<v Speaker 4>I've actually had I've been around a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>So but hey, I'm proud of you for remembering. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's that's impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>Mama Donnie, that's right. And and her her wonderful husband John,

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<v Speaker 3>who's my stepdad. That's right. And while we're giving shout

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<v Speaker 3>out sad And while we're giving out shout outs to

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<v Speaker 3>the parents, how about a shout out to my.

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<v Speaker 4>Dad Mark Coffee. Yes, just get the whole family in here.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, his wife, Mitzi. I mean we're giving out

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<v Speaker 3>Mitzi is a great name. You like that, huh, I do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's rare. I don't know many Mitzi's, but yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a it's a it's a fun name. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's play some more sound this uh this. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>I knew you were going to go there. I could

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<v Speaker 4>feel that happening. I could see it. I could see

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<v Speaker 4>it in your face. You were about to you you

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<v Speaker 4>were about to just slightly step over that line. Not

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<v Speaker 4>where you did anything wrong, but you know, you just

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<v Speaker 4>you made it kind of weird for me. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>you like to keep me on my touch.

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<v Speaker 3>A step mom, dude. All right, let's hear.

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<v Speaker 4>Terrence Edwards because he talked today at the press conferences

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<v Speaker 4>as well as Pat Kelsey, Rain Smith, Chucky Hepburn, and

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<v Speaker 4>Jevon Hadley. And this is Terrence talking about how how

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<v Speaker 4>important it is to have of Rain Smith out there

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<v Speaker 4>on the floor with these guys.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, it's always better when Rain is on the

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<v Speaker 9>floor because he spaces the floor and he kind of

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<v Speaker 9>knows the system at the back of his hand because

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<v Speaker 9>he's been with the coaches, and he helps us a

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<v Speaker 9>lot with the offense and just send cuts up, send

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<v Speaker 9>things up, and he just make your job much easier.

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<v Speaker 4>And This is Rain himself talking about his health and

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<v Speaker 4>availability for tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 6>Had a great past week of treatment and kind of

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<v Speaker 6>doing everything I can to get back, So it's in

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<v Speaker 6>a really good spot now and looking forward to getting

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<v Speaker 6>on the court with with my teammates and kind of

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<v Speaker 6>competing in this tournament. It's an exciting time of the year,

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<v Speaker 6>so just really excited to get out there.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll get back into this matchup a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>later on, because I do want to let you guys

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<v Speaker 4>hear some motivation that you know. I don't get the

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<v Speaker 4>sense that Louisville meeting Pat Kelsey really is the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of coach that's going to be out there looking for

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<v Speaker 4>added fuel. I feel like they're kind of self made

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to just being ready to compete. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you can get an extra edge chip on the shoulder,

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<v Speaker 4>they certainly already have that with the Sea Line. But

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<v Speaker 4>Seth Greenberg, this clown. I mean, there's no scenario what

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<v Speaker 4>he said yesterday on the Pat McAfee show was anything

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<v Speaker 4>other than just a direct f you to Louisville. And look,

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<v Speaker 4>it's because he now has to hear from us, because

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<v Speaker 4>he's one of the many that just you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if he blamed us, but like he's one

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<v Speaker 4>of those that just felt like Kenny Payne was the

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<v Speaker 4>no brainer higher it would have been dumb to hire

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<v Speaker 4>anybody else. And he's one of those that he's a

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<v Speaker 4>stubborn former coach who will never admit that they might

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<v Speaker 4>have been wrong. And you know, clearly whenever things were

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<v Speaker 4>going bad for Kenny and Louisville fans of course wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to change understandably, so he at times acted as we

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<v Speaker 4>were at fault, maybe we were a factor. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>he wasn't to the level of a Corey Alexander because

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't call our games. But he said him yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>that I'll let you guys here on the other side

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<v Speaker 4>that again, if they wanted some extra motivation there and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we won't matter because you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 4>play meeting fans. But it fired me up, made me

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<v Speaker 4>ready to see this team go out there and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>hopefully get past this this Creighton team. I did see,

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<v Speaker 4>so we I was walking out of the walking into

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<v Speaker 4>the bowls of the arena as they say, from from

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<v Speaker 4>rupp Arena on the court and Auburn had just showed

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<v Speaker 4>up their bus and they were headed to get ready

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<v Speaker 4>in the locker room and then you know, do their

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<v Speaker 4>press commerence. They were later on in the day, but

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<v Speaker 4>I was right around Bruce Pearls and I Broun the

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<v Speaker 4>grandpa Baker Mazarro is that his name, And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't look that scary, so I'm hoping we get

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<v Speaker 4>a chance at him on Saturday. They did look very old,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, which they are. They are as old

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<v Speaker 4>they're starting lineup. They're old, should have been out the

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<v Speaker 4>game years ago. It's the home because he ates his wife.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you do that, right, yeah, oh yeah. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 4>they are old. They're starting lineup. The average age is

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<v Speaker 4>nearly the same age as the starting lineup for the

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<v Speaker 4>Oklahoma City Thunder.

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<v Speaker 3>But look, they're good.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna act like they're they're anything other than

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<v Speaker 4>a great team. But man, I just would love to

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<v Speaker 4>get a shot at them. Last week it was working

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<v Speaker 4>towards getting a shot at Duke.

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<v Speaker 3>We got it. I want to shot at Auburn.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>May be careful what you wish for, but look, there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>There's the one thing that I just can't stop thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about is just the difference. It's going to be to

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<v Speaker 4>either make it to the round of thirty two or

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<v Speaker 4>lose tomorrow. Like again, losing on Saturday would still suck,

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<v Speaker 4>especially for at home. But man, I just hope they

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<v Speaker 4>win tomorrow. All right, quick break, we'll come back on

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<v Speaker 4>the other side. Talk about the Indiana Higher. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think it's a bad higher, but it's also not a

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<v Speaker 4>big splash either, which I'm not sure that was possible.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think they could have done better. But we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, Coffee and Company rolling along here on a

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Wednesday afternoon?

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<v Speaker 4>We are field without Thornton's also want to give a

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<v Speaker 4>local men's clinic. Was nice to be in earlier this

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<v Speaker 4>week and have my lab work done. Just catch up

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<v Speaker 4>with the great staff over there at the lois of

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<v Speaker 4>Men's Clinic. And there's a lot of things that make

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<v Speaker 4>them great. Their staff may be the most important thing

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<v Speaker 4>because you guys, hear me talk about doctor would how

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<v Speaker 4>great he is, but also everybody else part of the

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<v Speaker 4>team over there. They have I mean clearly they've they've

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<v Speaker 4>been doing this a long time. Love of Mence Clinic

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<v Speaker 4>has been open for over ten years, where other imitators

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<v Speaker 4>They can't last. They can't, they can't stick around. They're premature,

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<v Speaker 4>over well, not well over a decade, but over a

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<v Speaker 4>every not every I think fit, over fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 4>just tell you that it's a really common thing and

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<v Speaker 4>and they can help you. Loblemnsclinic dot COM's the website.

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<v Speaker 4>Bibo two four four four four thousand is the number.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go to the phone lines. Bibo two

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<v Speaker 4>five's seven one seventy nine hundred. Let's welcome in, Terry, Terry.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you doing brother?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey? Nick?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I got a two games on one to run.

441
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<v Speaker 10>Pass it right? Will Wade taking the NC stage job.

442
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<v Speaker 10>I mean that McNee stay was a trendy trendy epsit pick.

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<v Speaker 10>Do you think that affects anything there, affects the way

444
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<v Speaker 10>is peens your.

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<v Speaker 4>Life in the early rounds, I would say McNeese State,

446
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<v Speaker 4>they have to know that their coach is probably I'll

447
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<v Speaker 4>put it this way, it'll it'll probably impact them to

448
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<v Speaker 4>an extent. But I wouldn't be as worried about it

449
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<v Speaker 4>as maybe others because here's what I think could easily

450
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<v Speaker 4>be happening. He's already told told them about it, and

451
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<v Speaker 4>he kind of admitted that today he's probably saying, hey,

452
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<v Speaker 4>let's go on a run here and I'm gonna bring

453
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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna bring some of you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>With me to n C State.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, it is a distraction, But we're in

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<v Speaker 4>such a different world now that I feel like these

457
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<v Speaker 4>guys are going to know that they're gonna be more

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<v Speaker 4>eyes on them because there's there's They're already being talked

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<v Speaker 4>about as a trendy upset pick. So you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it is an issue for him, but I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be as worried about it as much as others. And

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<v Speaker 4>I also think NC State's making the right call here.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, and here's four games. I want to run val

464
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<v Speaker 10>you real quick and tell me if you agree with

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<v Speaker 10>me or you might go the other way. Okay, tonight

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<v Speaker 10>out tonight. I love Exager. You could lay the points,

467
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<v Speaker 10>I'd probably take him on the money on but I

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<v Speaker 10>love Exager over Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I make a lot of I make a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of jokes about about Sean Miller being allergic to the

471
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<v Speaker 4>Final Four because he's never made it, but he is

472
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<v Speaker 4>a good coach in March. He's made a lot of

473
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<v Speaker 4>Elite eights and sweet sixteens and Xavier. You know, they've

474
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<v Speaker 4>got a big name, Zach Fremantle, who quietly had a

475
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<v Speaker 4>pretty good year this year, but two years ago he

476
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<v Speaker 4>was like a rising star in college basketball, got hurt,

477
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<v Speaker 4>missed all of last season. So I've just never been

478
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<v Speaker 4>sold on on this Texas team. I mean, when I

479
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<v Speaker 4>watched the loaded SEC, I kind of felt like, just

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<v Speaker 4>as far as personnel, Texas was on the low end,

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<v Speaker 4>as far as just you know, I don't feel like

482
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<v Speaker 4>there is loaded now. Trey Johnson the freshman, he's special,

483
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<v Speaker 4>so like maybe he he goes off, but no, I

484
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<v Speaker 4>like I like Xavier minus too, and especially knowing they're

485
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<v Speaker 4>gonna they're gonna have a real home court advantage.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, then I love I love Saint Mary's overall.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, you get Vanity.

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<v Speaker 10>Out of the memo, and they just are not the

489
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<v Speaker 10>same team.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't defend and they did enough at the right

491
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<v Speaker 4>time to punch a ticket to the dance, but they

492
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<v Speaker 4>did not look well at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think what you said is the truth that

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<v Speaker 4>they're not playing in Memorial. They they look like the

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<v Speaker 4>Vandy of old.

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<v Speaker 10>And then two more and I'll let you out of here.

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<v Speaker 10>I love. I don't like to give this many points,

498
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<v Speaker 10>but I would do it. I think Gonzaga takes care

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<v Speaker 10>of Georgia. I don't know that they blow them out,

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<v Speaker 10>but I definitely think they win the game. Uh and

501
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<v Speaker 10>the Arizona Acron game it's a high total bad things

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<v Speaker 10>going over and I'll hang up in much and thank.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks, Terry, appreciate it. Yeah, Gonzaga. I think Mark Few

504
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<v Speaker 4>is super safe in the first round in most years,

505
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<v Speaker 4>and I think they'll win. I just don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>I would take them minus six and a half. Georgia

507
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<v Speaker 4>competitive team. They're one of those teams that their best win,

508
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<v Speaker 4>the win that has the real value that got them

509
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<v Speaker 4>in the tournament and avoiding the bubble was beating Saint John's.

510
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<v Speaker 4>But they also beat Saint John's in November on a

511
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<v Speaker 4>Saturday morning. This was a rare game for Georgia and

512
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<v Speaker 4>Saint John's. They both played in different holiday events that

513
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<v Speaker 4>took place at the same resort in the Bahamas, and

514
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<v Speaker 4>they stayed after a day or two longer than anybody

515
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<v Speaker 4>else in their events and just played a one off

516
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<v Speaker 4>game at that neutral site. And that's where Saint John's loss.

517
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<v Speaker 4>So I kind of feel like Georgia and Georgia b

518
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<v Speaker 4>Kentucky of course, which that's that's another big win that

519
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<v Speaker 4>helped them get in. So you know it can put

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<v Speaker 4>it this way, Mark Few has been able to make

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<v Speaker 4>the Sweet sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>More.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me pull it up here because I know currently

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<v Speaker 4>there's no team that has made the Sweet sixteen consecutively

525
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<v Speaker 4>like Gonzaga has. I mean, the the longest active street

526
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<v Speaker 4>of at least streak of at least making the Sweet

527
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<v Speaker 4>sixteen belongs to Gonzagon. I'm trying to figure out when

528
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<v Speaker 4>it was. Yeah, the last time they did not make

529
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<v Speaker 4>it at least to the Sweet sixteen was in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 4>So they always take care of business early, and I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like they're going to do that at least in

532
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<v Speaker 4>the first round this year. But you got to keep

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<v Speaker 4>in mind what happened with Gonzaga is that you know

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<v Speaker 4>they would they would have a thirty one in one

535
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<v Speaker 4>record or a twenty eight and four, maybe a thirty

536
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<v Speaker 4>one and six, thirty two and five, thirty five and three.

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<v Speaker 4>And what happens is these this ends up getting them

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<v Speaker 4>really good seeds, right, So maybe they end up getting

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<v Speaker 4>to the second weekend because they end up getting the

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<v Speaker 4>best possible scenario as far as seed line, right, Like

541
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<v Speaker 4>there's I don't I've never felt like they're worthy of

542
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<v Speaker 4>the seeds they give because again, they just don't play

543
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<v Speaker 4>anybody for two and a half months, and that didn't

544
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<v Speaker 4>mean they're not any good, but like they're not battle tested.

545
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<v Speaker 4>But because they get that one or the two, mostly

546
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<v Speaker 4>a one, they end up having to play a sixteen

547
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<v Speaker 4>and then you know an eight or nine, which you

548
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<v Speaker 4>know you got to play well to beat those teams

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<v Speaker 4>in most cases. But yeah, to answer your question, Terry,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I would take at six and

551
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<v Speaker 4>a half just because I think Georgia could compete and

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<v Speaker 4>I watched Gonzaga earlier this year. The leftovers from the

553
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<v Speaker 4>PAC twelve ended up, I guess for the season being

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<v Speaker 4>a part of the conference that Gonzaga and Saint Mary's

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<v Speaker 4>in is at the WCC. I think it's what it's called,

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<v Speaker 4>and I watched it was I think it was might

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<v Speaker 4>have been Washington State. No, it's Oregon State.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. Oregon State got Gonzaga pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>And that probably shouldn't be what I based my decision

560
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<v Speaker 4>on here because it's just one game, but they just

561
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<v Speaker 4>didn't look like a Gonzaga team that would typically put

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<v Speaker 4>fear into other teams. So maybe I'm just giving too

563
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<v Speaker 4>much respect to the SEC. But I would actually take

564
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<v Speaker 4>Georgia to cover plus six and a half. And then

565
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<v Speaker 4>the other game that he mentioned Akron in Arizona one

566
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<v Speaker 4>sixty six and a half. That's a lot of points.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me see what ken Palm has here, because I

568
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<v Speaker 4>don't think that's a I don't think that's a bad

569
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<v Speaker 4>call to take the over. I know Arizona is gonna

570
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<v Speaker 4>score a lot of points, but the current projected score

571
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<v Speaker 4>according to ken Palm is eighty nine whoops, sorry, drop

572
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<v Speaker 4>my phone eighty nine to seventy six. So that would

573
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<v Speaker 4>put us at the total of one sixty five and

574
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<v Speaker 4>a half. So the Ken Palm formula tells you that,

575
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<v Speaker 4>you know, if you want to trust ken Palm.

576
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<v Speaker 3>Then you would take the under.

577
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<v Speaker 4>But I would probably I'd probably take the over to too,

578
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<v Speaker 4>just because I think both teams will will be able

579
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<v Speaker 4>to score. Now, if you're looking to make a bet

580
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<v Speaker 4>on that game. As far as the spread, I really

581
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<v Speaker 4>really really like Acron to cover. I think John Gross

582
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<v Speaker 4>is a coach that if he got another chance at

583
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<v Speaker 4>a bigger school what he's good at and he's good,

584
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<v Speaker 4>he wins. He won a lot of games at Miami, Ohio.

585
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 4>He did decent at Illinois, but never really broke through,

586
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<v Speaker 4>and he probably deserved to be moved on from But

587
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<v Speaker 4>at accurate. He's bounced back in a major way, and

588
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<v Speaker 4>I think what he's good at, what makes him a

589
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<v Speaker 4>good coach, is really valuable now in this new world.

590
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<v Speaker 4>But anyways, what I was going to share with you

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<v Speaker 4>as far as the number here, we talked about this

592
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<v Speaker 4>a little bit yesterday, but I'll reset it again since

593
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<v Speaker 4>we're talking about this matchup specifically. But when it comes

594
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<v Speaker 4>to let's see, where's it at here?

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<v Speaker 3>I just had it pulled up. Now I can't find it.

596
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<v Speaker 3>Where is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Because the fourth I'm sorry, whatever seed? What seed is Arizona?

598
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<v Speaker 3>They are four or three? I think there are four seed?

599
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so four seeds that are favored by a certain

600
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<v Speaker 4>amount meeting here it is, And I'm sorry for spinning

601
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<v Speaker 4>my wheelshairs to make.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure I get it correct. Yeah, so four seeds have

603
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<v Speaker 3>gone seventeen I'm sorry. Let me back up.

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<v Speaker 4>Four seeds have gone seven, fifteen and one against the

605
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<v Speaker 4>spread when favored by eight and a half points or

606
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<v Speaker 4>more in the last ten tournaments. So thirty one point

607
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<v Speaker 4>eight percent of the time have four seats covered when

608
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<v Speaker 4>they're favored by eight and a half or more. Currently,

609
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<v Speaker 4>Akron is fourteen point dogs, So I like Akron to cover.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a lot of points. I think Akron is a

611
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<v Speaker 4>pretty good team and the MAC. The MAC is a

612
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<v Speaker 4>league that nobody would claim is anything other than a

613
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<v Speaker 4>mid major. But I think the MAC, when they've got

614
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<v Speaker 4>some good like the top of the MAC in most instances,

615
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<v Speaker 4>I think is a better league than people give it

616
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<v Speaker 4>credit for. So I'm not saying they'll win, but I

617
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<v Speaker 4>think they'll I think they'll score a lot of points,

618
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<v Speaker 4>and I think they can keep it within thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Tommy Lloyd's third year, right, yep? Or second? Okay,

620
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<v Speaker 3>I think it's his third year.

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<v Speaker 4>It's at least his third year, and he's had I mean,

622
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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I know, they lost to an IVY

623
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<v Speaker 4>League team in his first year, and yeah, so they

624
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<v Speaker 4>lost to In twenty twenty three, they lost to Princeton,

625
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<v Speaker 4>and in that season they were really good. I think

626
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<v Speaker 4>they were a two seed and lost to a fifteen

627
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<v Speaker 4>seeded Princeton team, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they had Benedict mathern all that team.

629
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<v Speaker 4>And then last year they went twenty seven and nine,

630
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.039
<v Speaker 4>got a two seed and ended up losing in the

631
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<v Speaker 4>sweet sixteen to Clemson, who of course finally broke through

632
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<v Speaker 4>and made.

633
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 3>It to the Elite eight.

634
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<v Speaker 4>So Tommy Lloyd, I would say, you know his h

635
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 4>and by the way, his first year.

636
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:20.240
<v Speaker 3>This is his fourth year, by the.

637
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.160
<v Speaker 4>Way, so his first year was in twenty twenty two

638
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:26.359
<v Speaker 4>and he went thirty three and four and they made

639
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.640
<v Speaker 4>the Sweet sixteen and lost to Houston, who was the

640
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 4>two seed. They were the one seed. So outside of

641
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 4>that upset when they lost to Princeton, I feel like

642
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 4>the Tommy air Tommy Lloyd AIRA has been pretty good Tarazona, right, Yeah,

643
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean I kind of feel like they need to

644
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, I think an early exit here, like if

645
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 4>I got upset by Akron, that would be bad news.

646
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, he's been a like he's one of those

647
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:49.839
<v Speaker 4>guys that set and waited forever to be a head coach.

648
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:53.920
<v Speaker 4>He sat behind mark U Againzaga and the patients paid off.

649
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.400
<v Speaker 4>And I don't think that right now, that's the kind

650
00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.519
<v Speaker 4>of higher that I would be making. Like I just

651
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.000
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to Power five jobs, I just don't

652
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 4>think the risk is worth it to get a guy

653
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 4>who's never coached a program, because you've got, like, you've

654
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:13.359
<v Speaker 4>got to have some experience in being in charge of

655
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:18.039
<v Speaker 4>a locker room managing personalities because nowadays like you got

656
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 4>to be able.

657
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 3>To be really the players.

658
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 4>Got to respect you, They got to be able to

659
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:24.640
<v Speaker 4>communicate with you. And if you've never done that before,

660
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.359
<v Speaker 4>you may be great at it. You may just be

661
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.160
<v Speaker 4>waiting on that opportunity. But it's also a risk for

662
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.119
<v Speaker 4>the employer to say, hey, we'll see if you can

663
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.000
<v Speaker 4>give it a shot, because it's a different thing being

664
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 4>an assistant and a head coach. I think we all

665
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:37.960
<v Speaker 4>have known for a long time that's a big difference.

666
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:39.799
<v Speaker 4>There's a big difference in what that job is. But man,

667
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.480
<v Speaker 4>if we didn't learn it around here now again, I'm

668
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:44.480
<v Speaker 4>sure there are many other coaches. In fact, any other

669
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:47.160
<v Speaker 4>coach that's been a long time assistant that got an

670
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:48.759
<v Speaker 4>opportunity to be a head coach would do better than

671
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 4>Kenny Payne did. But I just like, for example, the

672
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.680
<v Speaker 4>decisions that Miami and Florida State made when they when

673
00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.359
<v Speaker 4>they hired their coaches. That may look there's no way

674
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:01.039
<v Speaker 4>to know. You never know with any higher it's going

675
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:02.960
<v Speaker 4>to work out. But I just like, if that doesn't

676
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:05.319
<v Speaker 4>work out, I'll think, Okay, there were proven coaches that

677
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.279
<v Speaker 4>maybe haven't coached in the ACC or the Power five level. Man,

678
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:10.559
<v Speaker 4>they've proven they've got a winning formula, why not give

679
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.960
<v Speaker 4>them the keys to what you've got in the garage

680
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 4>and let them, you know, bring over their formula and

681
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.400
<v Speaker 4>and you know, have better things to work with. I

682
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 4>just to me, that's to me right now, with where

683
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:23.559
<v Speaker 4>we are in college athletics, I feel like that is

684
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.039
<v Speaker 4>the most obvious way to go about it, unless you

685
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 4>can go get you know, a big name. And by

686
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 4>the way, speaking of big names, this guy's not a

687
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:34.480
<v Speaker 4>big name. We've talked about him this week. Darien Devrees

688
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 4>he left West Virginia after a season to now go

689
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.440
<v Speaker 4>to Indiana. I don't think Indiana in any way made

690
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:43.079
<v Speaker 4>like a I we'll never know until we get a

691
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:44.680
<v Speaker 4>couple of years in to see if this is gonna

692
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:46.920
<v Speaker 4>work or not, just like any other higher But I

693
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 4>don't want to make it sound like I think this

694
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:48.920
<v Speaker 4>guy's a bad coach.

695
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 3>He was really successful.

696
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 4>At Drake and in his first year at West Virginia,

697
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 4>you know, to be to be fair, if he didn't

698
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Speaker 4>lose his son in early December to an injury, they

699
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 4>probably belie or safely and in fact, they should have

700
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 4>been in any way. I mean, Givonne Small transferred from

701
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 4>Oklahoma State to West Virginia. He was an All American

702
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.400
<v Speaker 4>caliber player. We saw that firsthand. That back and forth

703
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:12.000
<v Speaker 4>between him and Chucky in the Bahamas was was unreal.

704
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 4>So you know, I don't dislike to hire for Indiana.

705
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 4>I just you know, if it was me, I think

706
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:24.640
<v Speaker 4>I probably would have more so been been. I don't know,

707
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 4>because maybe Ben McCollum is the guy who's a great coach,

708
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.119
<v Speaker 4>but like maybe it would be a really big adjustment

709
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 4>for him to go to D two to Drake to

710
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 4>being the coach of Indiana. But it sounds like now

711
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 4>the Iowa job will probably end up going to Ben McCullum.

712
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.359
<v Speaker 4>But you know, Indiana, they do kind of you know, again,

713
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 4>you can't I'm gonna laugh at the joke, but also

714
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 4>not make fun of them.

715
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Can you do that? Is that possible? Is that a thing? Sure?

716
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 4>Can you be laughing at laughing at someone's expense, but

717
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 4>you're not the one making fun of them. Of course,

718
00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:00.359
<v Speaker 4>because I hide behind that the tweet that the that

719
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.000
<v Speaker 4>was sent out yesterday by one of the college basketball

720
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 4>writers that I follow, I mean, it's really like not

721
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 4>even that funny, but it is kind of funny, like

722
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.720
<v Speaker 4>it made me, It made me internally laugh, and that

723
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:11.960
<v Speaker 4>was I mean, if you can go hire a coach

724
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.000
<v Speaker 4>who didn't or if you're gonna let me, let me,

725
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:16.400
<v Speaker 4>let me, let me back up because I don't want to.

726
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna make sure I give credit because again it's

727
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 4>this person being mean to Indiana fans, not me. I'm

728
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 4>just gonna share it with you. And also again I

729
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.000
<v Speaker 4>admitted that I did. I did kind of laugh. But

730
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:28.920
<v Speaker 4>this is Carter Elliott, who covers college basketball for Sleepers

731
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.680
<v Speaker 4>Media and bleacher Report. He said, anytime you can fire

732
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 4>your coach for not making the tournament only to hire

733
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:36.839
<v Speaker 4>a coach that also didn't make the tournament, you have

734
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:41.200
<v Speaker 4>to do exactly that, which I mean to.

735
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Be fair though good one, but yeah, like what makes.

736
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 4>That not like I mean, it is kind of funny,

737
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 4>but like West Virginia should have been in, Like we

738
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Speaker 4>can laugh at them now because they lost their coach

739
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.359
<v Speaker 4>and they got left out and there's no better fan

740
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 4>there's no, you know, no better fan base south of

741
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 4>than West Virginia.

742
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I just feel so.

743
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.279
<v Speaker 4>Bad for their fans because they're so they're such great people,

744
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.160
<v Speaker 4>but anyways, like as much as we can make fun

745
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 4>of them, which we are, they I mean, they belonged

746
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:06.759
<v Speaker 4>in the tournament like they should have been in.

747
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 3>There's no real question about that.

748
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:10.039
<v Speaker 4>All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side,

749
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 4>wrap up the four o'clock hour, and I want to

750
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 4>let you guys here what Seth Greenberg had to say,

751
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:17.920
<v Speaker 4>because I just don't think there's any way you could

752
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 4>spend this as it being anything other than just him

753
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 4>wanting to tee off and take a shot at Louisville.

754
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 4>And as to why he'd want to do that, probably

755
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.679
<v Speaker 4>because he doesn't like us, not because he's conspiring against us.

756
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:32.559
<v Speaker 4>But you know, he's one of those that was real

757
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 4>loud about Kenny Payne not getting a fair deal and whatnot.

758
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:38.639
<v Speaker 4>And you know we don't forget stuff like that around here.

759
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:41.360
<v Speaker 4>Stick around to Coffee and Company. Feel about Thornton's on

760
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Sports Talk seven to.

761
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's

762
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven nine day.

763
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<v Speaker 4>That's right, we were wrapping up the four o'clock hour

764
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 4>here on a Wednesday afternoon, another day of playing games,

765
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 4>and then tomorrow it all gets started and Louisville, of course,

766
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 4>will get the whole thing started with the first game

767
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 4>in the round of sixty four. And it's our last

768
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's our last show, of course, our last

769
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.880
<v Speaker 4>hour coming up here before we get to tomorrow. And

770
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.039
<v Speaker 4>what I mean is when we start the show tomorrow,

771
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:17.280
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna know one way or the other, is it

772
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:21.079
<v Speaker 4>all over? Are we continuing to keep this really fun

773
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.880
<v Speaker 4>and awesome season alive? And only Tom will tell. All right,

774
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:29.199
<v Speaker 4>one person who is quite clearly he's not worried about

775
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 4>as far as what's going to happen to Louisville. He

776
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.079
<v Speaker 4>either has seen the future or he's just that confident

777
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:38.599
<v Speaker 4>in Creighton. Because Seth Greenberg was on with Pat McAfee

778
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:44.280
<v Speaker 4>yesterday and of course was asked about the toughest I

779
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:45.840
<v Speaker 4>think it might have been something along the lines of

780
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:50.039
<v Speaker 4>like who got the toughest draw and instead of saying

781
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Louisville because of, you know, being an eight seed that

782
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people, most people thought that they shouldn't be,

783
00:35:56.519 --> 00:36:00.119
<v Speaker 4>or maybe Creighton having to play, you know, Louisville in

784
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.079
<v Speaker 4>Lexington he went, he went with Auburn and here's what

785
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:05.280
<v Speaker 4>he here's what he had to say.

786
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.360
<v Speaker 11>Ball, But I think they've got the toughest second round

787
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 11>game in the tournament, even if even after if they

788
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 11>win their first game, they get a Creighton team like

789
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 11>Creighton is good, the big kid kolp Renner, he's like

790
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.360
<v Speaker 11>a one man's own. They play fast, a really good

791
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 11>passing team, sneaky defensive team.

792
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.639
<v Speaker 4>So you know, maybe he just is that confident, But

793
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 4>it's almost as if he doesn't even really think there's

794
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 4>any reason to play the game between Creighton and Louisville.

795
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 4>And I don't think anybody's out of line to think

796
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:37.280
<v Speaker 4>that Creyton can win this game. I mean, trust me,

797
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:41.159
<v Speaker 4>I won't be shocked if Creighton wins. And you know,

798
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure there are endless scenarios that could give you

799
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 4>that result. But it's just because I think these teams

800
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:50.840
<v Speaker 4>are pretty evenly matched for the most part, and it's

801
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:52.599
<v Speaker 4>just going to come down to who plays better, who

802
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:56.000
<v Speaker 4>makes more shots that coming. You know, I'd be really

803
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:58.440
<v Speaker 4>shocked if this thing is ugly one way or the other.

804
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.280
<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't you agree? Austin like this to me, he just

805
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 4>doesn't feel like a game that's gonna get that's gonna

806
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 4>get out of hand on either side, and and you know,

807
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:08.920
<v Speaker 4>I would hope that it does get out of hand

808
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:10.800
<v Speaker 4>and it's Louisville on the right side of that. But

809
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't, I don't really, I never really

810
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.800
<v Speaker 4>embrace the it's us against the world because I just

811
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 4>don't believe that that that Louisville is on the minds

812
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:26.039
<v Speaker 4>of so many people to where they're just plotting for

813
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:27.400
<v Speaker 4>our downfall, you know what I mean.

814
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Like, I just don't. I don't.

815
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:29.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't think we and I don't want to say

816
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.719
<v Speaker 4>that it's because we're irrelevant. It's just that I don't

817
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:32.920
<v Speaker 4>think a lot of people are wired that way. Like

818
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that anybody is out there thinking about

819
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 4>how they hope the worst for Louisville and they're going

820
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.760
<v Speaker 4>to conspire to screw Louisville over I just because I

821
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 4>just don't think that's how a lot of people are.

822
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.199
<v Speaker 4>But again, maybe I'm giving people a bed fitted out.

823
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.719
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I'm too naive when it comes to that kind

824
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 4>of stuff. But your rival is different. That's that's a

825
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.760
<v Speaker 4>whole totally different thing. But it has been to me,

826
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 4>it has been pretty clear with certain people that really

827
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 4>don't like our fan base because we let them know

828
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.079
<v Speaker 4>we were listening when you said nonsensical things about our program,

829
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 4>our fan base. In Kenny Payne burning into the ground

830
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:12.519
<v Speaker 4>right like Corey Alexander in the ACC tournament was unbelievable,

831
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.119
<v Speaker 4>Like I I mean, I get the hate now.

832
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

833
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Like so, he I think did about as good of

834
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.960
<v Speaker 4>a job as I thought he could do when it

835
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.239
<v Speaker 4>comes to just coming back to Louisville and doing a

836
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 4>game knowing that like he was the one that it

837
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 4>all opportunity would tell Louisville fans they were the problem,

838
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.639
<v Speaker 4>not Kenny. Kenny deserved it better another year. I mean,

839
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 4>even in Kenny's last game, whenever they were losing in

840
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 4>the ACC tournaments n C State, as the clock's running

841
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.159
<v Speaker 4>out and the game's over, he used that airtime, which

842
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.360
<v Speaker 4>is really not what he's supposed to do, at least

843
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:50.679
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he is. I don't think his employer

844
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 4>wants him out there using the platform to advocate for

845
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.320
<v Speaker 4>coaches to keep their jobs. But he did that. And

846
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:58.960
<v Speaker 4>like even Beheim, who didn't want to pile on Beajem

847
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:00.639
<v Speaker 4>is just you know, probably ready to get the you know,

848
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 4>the day of shame games over with. He was like, yeah,

849
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 4>but you gotta win games. I mean, and you know

850
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.400
<v Speaker 4>which is true. You have to be We don't need

851
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.800
<v Speaker 4>to get into the whole kpire as far as like

852
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 4>what would have needed to happen for him to stay.

853
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:16.199
<v Speaker 4>But Corey, you know he not only was he clearly

854
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 4>wrong about everything he said about Kenny. Here we are

855
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.159
<v Speaker 4>proving him right in a major way in letting him

856
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:26.039
<v Speaker 4>know about it. I mean, I don't know how often

857
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:27.960
<v Speaker 4>he's on Twitter, and often he checks his mentions, but

858
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.159
<v Speaker 4>when Louisville was rolling and really all year, I don't

859
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.239
<v Speaker 4>think it was something Louisville fans did every day.

860
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:34.760
<v Speaker 3>But like he's probably the first guy that.

861
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 4>Came to mind for certain folks whenever you thought, okay,

862
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.079
<v Speaker 4>you remember these clowns that told us that we were

863
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 4>the problem and that like Kenny was a good coach

864
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:42.360
<v Speaker 4>and we needed to just get him time like this,

865
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:44.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, not only did we know they're wrong, now

866
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 4>we have the proof and we can shove it and

867
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 4>rub it in their face so understandably, So like he's

868
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:54.320
<v Speaker 4>gonna feel like Louisville fans are lunatics instead of just

869
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:56.360
<v Speaker 4>having some realization that you know, what you said was

870
00:39:56.440 --> 00:40:00.760
<v Speaker 4>crazy and really I mean irresponsible to use platform and

871
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:03.880
<v Speaker 4>act like Louisville fans are going to keep Kenny Payne

872
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:06.480
<v Speaker 4>from getting recruits because we're upset that the team sucks.

873
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:10.199
<v Speaker 4>Ass Like, No, Louisville wasn't gonna get recruits because Kenny

874
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:12.679
<v Speaker 4>and his staff weren't even recruiting. Even if they were,

875
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 4>who's would to come and play for a guy that

876
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.719
<v Speaker 4>showed in two years he was the worst coach of

877
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.719
<v Speaker 4>all time. So I think when he came back to

878
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 4>do a game, instead of acknowledging any of that, he

879
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 4>just talked up Louisville, talked up Pat Kelsey, and you know,

880
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.320
<v Speaker 4>he was a pro about it. That was I believe

881
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 4>the way Forest game was the first time he came back.

882
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 4>But in the ACC tournament, you could just tell because

883
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:37.760
<v Speaker 4>of you know, the blowback that he got from Louisville

884
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 4>fans for just his ascid on takes and just how

885
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:45.199
<v Speaker 4>much we're gonna let you know, we remember he doesn't

886
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:50.440
<v Speaker 4>like us, and it's the human element that is uncontrollable

887
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 4>at times. I don't think he has any issue with

888
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Pat Kelsey. I don't think he has any issue with

889
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:57.639
<v Speaker 4>Louisville players, but he hates Louisville because of the way

890
00:40:57.800 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 4>we let him know he was wrong, and he you know,

891
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.360
<v Speaker 4>he needs to take his medicine. So to hear him

892
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.079
<v Speaker 4>in both the Clemson game and the Duke game, you know,

893
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.000
<v Speaker 4>not be able to like he he didn't come up

894
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:11.400
<v Speaker 4>for air, just out just just gagging on Clemson and

895
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:13.679
<v Speaker 4>and and Duke the whole time, and then losing his

896
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 4>mind about the foul call That wasn't a foul in

897
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 4>the Clemson game. Now, to be fair to him, it

898
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:21.440
<v Speaker 4>did look like a foul in real time. The replay

899
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 4>showed that it was very well exit. And by the way,

900
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 4>we haven't talked about the ship. It's probably not relevant,

901
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:30.719
<v Speaker 4>but there's no way that that wasn't a strategized design

902
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.920
<v Speaker 4>sure to where they had the big fella Shifflin push

903
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 4>tray Ora into Was it was it Edwards?

904
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Whoever?

905
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:39.039
<v Speaker 5>It was?

906
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:42.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that that that you know, and there was no

907
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.199
<v Speaker 4>contact I mean the push into him by Shefflin or

908
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.239
<v Speaker 4>was it no, No, Hunter was the guy that took

909
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:50.760
<v Speaker 4>it up. Okay, but there was a play. I mean,

910
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.440
<v Speaker 4>go back and look at it. He went up in

911
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.199
<v Speaker 4>the air, clearly tried to sell that he got there

912
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 4>was a sniper in the nosebleeds that took him out

913
00:41:57.960 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 4>that net I mean, I mean, I don't know how you.

914
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 3>Put your neck back like that, to be honest.

915
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 4>But before that or as he's going into the air,

916
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.519
<v Speaker 4>Trey Oray jumps to be kind of you know, rim protector,

917
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:09.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, around the rim because he's got good link

918
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:11.800
<v Speaker 4>like that, and Clemson pushes him in the back, And

919
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.519
<v Speaker 4>I honestly, what't a bad idea about Brad brown Well

920
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:18.480
<v Speaker 4>to push your guy into his guy, who then forces

921
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:22.559
<v Speaker 4>the defender on Hunter to commit a foul and Guible

922
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 4>didn't foul him. But he's so bad even if it

923
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 4>was a bad call, like Heapke came unglued as if

924
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:31.159
<v Speaker 4>he was the Clemson coach upset about a call that

925
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 4>you know might have cost him a game.

926
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:35.679
<v Speaker 3>So you know, it's it's just part of Like again,

927
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<v Speaker 3>I I'm the.

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<v Speaker 4>Reason I bringing all this up is because I'm now

929
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.480
<v Speaker 4>kind of getting into embracing it a little bit more.

930
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 4>Not because I really think people are out there losing

931
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.480
<v Speaker 4>sleep thinking about Louisville, but like, yeah, when you're we

932
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 4>are the fan base that that keeps receipts, pays attention,

933
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:52.159
<v Speaker 4>we know what We're not dumb. You can't fool us

934
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.239
<v Speaker 4>and tell us we're the problem. So I think it's

935
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:57.400
<v Speaker 4>just gonna be like that with Corey Alexander for a

936
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.199
<v Speaker 4>long time. And I'll give you an example. Some of

937
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 4>you guys may not remember. It's kind of faded since

938
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:04.440
<v Speaker 4>then because it's been so long. You remember, Kirk Curve

939
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:06.320
<v Speaker 4>Street let us know that Florida wasn't interested in the

940
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 4>Sugar Bowl.

941
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh how long.

942
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Speaker 4>We let him know about that? We don't forget around here.

943
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 4>And I kind of love that about us, among many

944
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:16.679
<v Speaker 4>other things. All right, quick break, five o'clock hours next,

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<v Speaker 4>keep you locked right here on Sports Talk seven ninety
