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Speaker 2: We're excited to be in our home state. I think
Speaker 2: our fans are gonna come out and droves hopefully, and
Speaker 2: our guys are excited to compete against a world class
Speaker 2: coach in a high level program, in a very very
Speaker 2: very dangerous team.
Speaker 3: That was Pat Kelsey earlier today.
Speaker 4: As we are now just less than twenty four hours
Speaker 4: away from tipping it off, Louisville and Craigon tomorrow will
Speaker 4: get the tournament started. As far as I'm concerned, I
Speaker 4: know the playing games took place last night. There'll be
Speaker 4: another couple of games tonight in Dayton. But of everything,
Speaker 4: when it comes to all the things I've bitched about
Speaker 4: this week, when it comes to just the seating, and
Speaker 4: that's really what.
Speaker 3: It is, but there's layers to it.
Speaker 4: Obviously, being the first game is maybe my biggest complaint,
Speaker 4: just because just selfishly as a as a as a
Speaker 4: you know, an anxious individual with anxiety, somebody who you
Speaker 4: know worries more than I need to about things. I
Speaker 4: overthink things. I know I'm not alone, but I'm probably
Speaker 4: you know, that's just that's how I'm wired. Unfortunately, just
Speaker 4: knowing that we're the first game like just has me
Speaker 4: so uneasy about it. And it's it's nice to feel
Speaker 4: alive again because we're not dead anymore. Pat Kelsey, this team.
Speaker 4: The revival was a real thing. They brought us back
Speaker 4: to life and it was great.
Speaker 3: But if there was a.
Speaker 4: Positive about being dead, you couldn't feel what this feels like.
Speaker 4: And it feels great at the moment just because there's excitement,
Speaker 4: but man, just the the worry of what tomorrow will
Speaker 4: be like if it all comes to an end, and
Speaker 4: that's where my nerves.
Speaker 3: I've said that throughout the show today.
Speaker 4: I'm not worried about Creighton as far as them being
Speaker 4: I mean, look, they could easily beat Louisville and Louisville
Speaker 4: I think being a two and a half point favorite
Speaker 4: makes some sense. So it's not like I'm telling you
Speaker 4: I'm not worried about Creton. It's going to be a
Speaker 4: cake walk. It's just knowing that if it doesn't work
Speaker 4: out and you come up short, it's all over. And
Speaker 4: I'm sure I've sounded hilarious to some people out here
Speaker 4: who don't have like the emotional connection to a team
Speaker 4: because you know, and by the way, you're probably way
Speaker 4: more normal than I am, and you know, props to you.
Speaker 4: But the overall roller coaster of being a local basketball
Speaker 4: fan in the last decade, knowing that it's been ten
Speaker 4: years since we made the Second Weekend, six years since
Speaker 4: we made the NAA Tournament, and then to go through
Speaker 4: the last few years to have this now, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's it's hard not to be this insane about it.
Speaker 4: And again, I don't want to regurgitate too much, but
Speaker 4: throughout the last few weeks, like that's what's really kind
Speaker 4: of made me sad that this is going to end
Speaker 4: soongardless of how many games they win in the tournament,
Speaker 4: because I don't really know if if we'll have the
Speaker 4: perfect storm like we've had this year where it all
Speaker 4: just kind of came together the way it did. So
Speaker 4: I'm I'm going to enjoy it as long as I can,
Speaker 4: and who knows, maybe twenty four hours from now it'll
Speaker 4: be a different it'll be a different situation. So again,
Speaker 4: Louisville Place to March twelve, fifteen, We'll go live as
Speaker 4: soon as it ends and react to whatever it is
Speaker 4: that happens. It's either going to be a celebration as
Speaker 4: we remain on the dance floor and get to the
Speaker 4: round of thirty two and take over Rapperena on Saturday,
Speaker 4: or it's going to be really sad and we'll just go,
Speaker 4: you know, we'll we'll, we'll have to get through it together.
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Speaker 4: go to the phone lines now and welcome in a
Speaker 4: gentleman by the name of Hippie Lettuce Jeff.
Speaker 3: Longtime, no talk, Jeff. How we doing, brother?
Speaker 5: Not too bad? Not too bad? Man. If I knew
Speaker 5: that you were were that anxious man, I would have
Speaker 5: dropped you off some R delicious chocolates or some Gommies
Speaker 5: or something.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 5: Don't worry about tomorrow, ma worry about itself.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, Jeff, because I mean, look,
Speaker 4: I gummies have been a big, a big part of
Speaker 4: my life in a good way in the last few years.
Speaker 4: But you know, I don't want to be you know,
Speaker 4: like I wanted to feel real right. Gummies would help
Speaker 4: if they lose, because then I'll be, you know, I'll
Speaker 4: be chilling. I won't be as as on edge. But
Speaker 4: like if they win, I don't want to be, you know,
Speaker 4: sleep walking through it. You gotta you gotta get me
Speaker 4: the right you.
Speaker 5: Know world right Bounce is about twenty milligrams and and
Speaker 5: and you just take it and you're easy chilled. Twenty
Speaker 5: milligrams would last you good four hours, six hours, and
Speaker 5: I mean you should only have anxiety about that long anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 5: because you'd be going to sleep and then you wake
Speaker 5: up in the morning and take it one. Just take
Speaker 5: one in good morning when you wake up. What's your cereal? Well,
Speaker 5: and Poppy want is to deserve a cereal? Yes, yes,
Speaker 5: And then I mean the game will be here and
Speaker 5: then that's what you really need to worry about, because
Speaker 5: I'm telling you what, Son, I'm not worried about Auburn.
Speaker 5: I'll be honest. If we make it past Craton, we're
Speaker 5: in the sweet sixteen. That's my opinion. I've I've kind
Speaker 5: of kept an eye on Craton and I've lost in
Speaker 5: one the shekel or two on them. Ye, so uh,
Speaker 5: just good advice tomorrow is you might want to take
Speaker 5: two gummies because tomorrow is the day.
Speaker 7: Okay, uh yeah uh And anyway, man, one other thing, man,
Speaker 7: I feel bad for the sacrificial land they called San
Speaker 7: Diego State because they sure set them guys up.
Speaker 5: You know, they let North Carolina line in to begin with,
Speaker 5: and then at the press and media random mouth about it.
Speaker 5: So Carolina they got talent. What are they gonna do? Man,
Speaker 5: I bet the arm on them and I one my
Speaker 5: farm was only eight bucks. Hey, but that's right. So yeah,
Speaker 5: this is a great silling. I ain't felt I guess
Speaker 5: in six years. Man, good stuff taking off work. I
Speaker 5: don't care if the ball has heard me or not.
Speaker 4: Take care of that's hippy letters, Jeff. Yeah, so he
Speaker 4: lost a couple of yes on Yeah. So a lot
Speaker 4: to unpack there. But yeah, when it comes to when
Speaker 4: it comes to the gummies, you know, and I'm I'm
Speaker 4: not even well.
Speaker 3: I'm working.
Speaker 4: There's a couple of different clients, potential clients that I've
Speaker 4: talked to and and and you know, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to mention any specific place where I get the product from,
Speaker 4: but you know, I've I've I don't know what we're
Speaker 4: talking about this today, but it has become like the
Speaker 4: best thing for me when it comes to my anxiety.
Speaker 4: And and you know, finding that perfect balance is is
Speaker 4: a little bit tricky at times because I feel like
Speaker 4: adrenaline can can can change the level of like you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like if you've got adrenaline, maybe
Speaker 4: you wouldn't feel the effect like you would if the
Speaker 4: adrenaline wasn't so high. So anyways, if there's one person
Speaker 4: that may be able to get me on track with
Speaker 4: what what you know, balancing out what I need, it
Speaker 4: may be Hippy.
Speaker 3: Letters Jet of course sounds experience.
Speaker 4: Cereal and gummies to get the day started very very nutritious.
Speaker 4: So yeah, look, Creighton, we talked about this yesterday. They
Speaker 4: they clearly have an elite player in Ryan coch Printer Cookbrner.
Speaker 3: It just met her. Yeah, I mean, can I take
Speaker 3: it to dinner first?
Speaker 5: Geez?
Speaker 4: We haven't done that enough, have we? And I hope
Speaker 4: people can sense the sarcasm because you know, I'm sure
Speaker 4: we give you way, we give you way more childish
Speaker 4: humor than you probably want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we haven't done it enough.
Speaker 4: So you know, he's he's a he's a he's a
Speaker 4: presence that you just aren't gonna see very often in
Speaker 4: college basketball because he's a giant and he's productive. Uh
Speaker 4: but you know, they don't they don't really like to
Speaker 4: play in transition. He's not you know, nobody really his
Speaker 4: size is going to be able to really run the floor.
Speaker 4: Great now, if you do, you probably are in the
Speaker 4: NBA because that's what the game is at the pro
Speaker 4: level now. So you know, as much as he is
Speaker 4: a real issue for you and you got to you
Speaker 4: got to make sure you prepare for him and and
Speaker 4: you know, contain him as best you can, there's also
Speaker 4: some things you could do that will make him uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: And that's been shown this year with Creighton. Also, you
Speaker 4: know their point guard who is you know, he's he's solid, Ashworth,
Speaker 4: He's he's a playmaker in both aspects. He's a scorer,
Speaker 4: and he's also somebody that can really distribute. And again
Speaker 4: I said this earlier in the week, and I don't
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like this was this. I didn't
Speaker 4: say this to kind of, you know, take a shot
Speaker 4: at Chucky by any means, But Chucky's been one of
Speaker 4: the leaders and assists all throughout college basketball this year,
Speaker 4: and Steven Ashworth has more total assist than Chucky. Now,
Speaker 4: Chucky also missed a game and a half and whatnot,
Speaker 4: So I just I tried to mention that more so
Speaker 4: to just put him, you know, to let you know,
Speaker 4: this guy really is is a big time distributor. But
Speaker 4: also you know, there aren't many others that do that
Speaker 4: on his team, right, I mean, outside of him, you've
Speaker 4: got Jamia and Eel who's another guard of theirs who
Speaker 4: starts plays thirty four minutes a game. He's averaging about
Speaker 4: four assists. But after that, I mean, they really don't
Speaker 4: have anybody else that can create for others pop Isaac's.
Speaker 4: By the way, if you would just look up the
Speaker 4: Creighton stats, you'll see these guy's numbers that think, oh,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to be prepared for this guy.
Speaker 3: Well, he's hurt.
Speaker 4: He's been hurt since I don't think he's played since
Speaker 4: the beginning of December. Yes, so he was a big
Speaker 4: time transfer for them, and I forget where he played
Speaker 4: at and that's sort of yeah, he played at Texas Tech.
Speaker 4: That's sort of why things you know. I don't say
Speaker 4: they fell apart, but they were. Creighton was expected to
Speaker 4: be a really good team this year, and sure enough,
Speaker 4: they ended up they ended up losing one of their
Speaker 4: better players. He was averaging sixteen points for assists a games,
Speaker 4: So you know he's been you know, not having not
Speaker 4: having him has been has been one of the reasons
Speaker 4: why you know this Creighton team, you know, it's probably
Speaker 4: in a position where they feel like they should have
Speaker 4: been better than their seed line is. But back to Ashworth.
Speaker 4: He can score it, he can distribute, but also Louisville
Speaker 4: should be able to speed him up and make him uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: He has a ton of turnovers. He has more turnovers
Speaker 4: than anybody in college basketball. A wild stat but is true.
Speaker 4: So for every little thing you see about this creating
Speaker 4: team that understandably worries you and is concerning, there's also
Speaker 4: some things that make them vulnerable. Right, they don't foil
Speaker 4: a lot, and I don't know what to make of that. Right,
Speaker 4: they foil fewer than fewer than they commit fewer fouls
Speaker 4: a game than anybody in the country, not only the tournament,
Speaker 4: at the country. And that is a good thing because
Speaker 4: it keeps you, you know, teams can really find themselves
Speaker 4: in a game as far as momentum and rhythm at
Speaker 4: the free throw line, and if you're not fouling very often,
Speaker 4: that's going to limit them from being able to kind
Speaker 4: of do that and reset. And Louisville is a team
Speaker 4: that I feel like the free throw line is a
Speaker 4: you know, they actually ended up putting together a really
Speaker 4: good and as far as the overall percentage, there were
Speaker 4: some games where clearly they didn't shoot it well, but overall,
Speaker 4: they shot a lot of free throws and they shot
Speaker 4: a pretty good percentage comparatively speaking. So you know, that's
Speaker 4: sort of a battle that I'm anxious to see who
Speaker 4: comes out on top. Right, is Creighton able to keep
Speaker 4: this what they want right, playing defense but not fouling,
Speaker 4: keeping Louisville from the free throw line, or is Louisville
Speaker 4: going to force the issue and I mean that in
Speaker 4: a good way and just get downhill and make them
Speaker 4: have to foul to where you know you're spending a
Speaker 4: lot of time at the line.
Speaker 3: And again, Louisville at the line.
Speaker 4: Especially with guys like Chucky Fat Edward's rain, of course,
Speaker 4: but he didn't shoot a lot of free throws. But
Speaker 4: if they're at the line pretty periodically throughout the game,
Speaker 4: that's a good sign that, I mean, you're guaranteed to win.
Speaker 4: But again, I think that's that's a pretty good sign.
Speaker 4: So I think this is a very even matchup in
Speaker 4: all aspects. And you just hope that the home court
Speaker 4: advantage for Louisville can can can come into play. And
Speaker 4: you know, Louisville didn't have rain the last few games,
Speaker 4: and obviously that's that's you know, like that's not something
Speaker 4: like we keep forgetting about. But what I think I'm
Speaker 4: doing is just maybe not realizing how different this team
Speaker 4: is with him on the floor, Like we talked about it.
Speaker 3: It's not like I'm unaware of it.
Speaker 4: But I guess just because I've had that fear of
Speaker 4: him maybe not playing at all, just because of how
Speaker 4: serious the injury might have been, that I just maybe
Speaker 4: I just started thinking about life without him. But he
Speaker 4: was there today at the open practice, moving around like
Speaker 4: here's the thing he's gonna play. There's no scenario where
Speaker 4: like we find out before the game that he's not
Speaker 4: able to go. I mean, I guess crazier things have happened,
Speaker 4: but it just comes down to, you know, how rusty
Speaker 4: he is, how well can he move? And he looked
Speaker 4: very comfortable today, looked very loose, was knocking down shots.
Speaker 4: But again, what they did today in the open practice
Speaker 4: is nothing like what you're gonna see tomorrow. But as
Speaker 4: we get closer, I'm sure it's just you know, the
Speaker 4: natural fan emotion that comes with this stuff, Like I'm
Speaker 4: getting more confident as the show goes on. Today I
Speaker 4: mentioned I called my mother today on the way in
Speaker 4: and she told me she's feeling good about the game.
Speaker 4: She's feeling confident about Creighton and I you know, so
Speaker 4: we got my mom, my sweet wanerful mother. We got
Speaker 4: Hippie Lettuce, Jef, that's not worried about the Creighton Blue Jays.
Speaker 4: I mean they may not even show up tomorrow. When
Speaker 4: they hear Hippie Lettus, Jeff and my mother, they don't
Speaker 4: like their chances.
Speaker 3: Oh, Jeff, miss it's Donahue, right, that's right at that house?
Speaker 3: How about that nice?
Speaker 8: You know I I've mispronounced her as coffee. So yeah, well,
Speaker 8: most people disrespectful. Well, I mean you wouldn't know. It's
Speaker 8: totally normal. I mean it's trust me. Like my my sister,
Speaker 8: she's she's divorced.
Speaker 4: And she has the name of her her ex husband,
Speaker 4: who a lot of people now don't know. So therefore,
Speaker 4: you know, people say you Emily Coffee and she's like, no,
Speaker 4: actually it's an you know, so anyways, like it's it's
Speaker 4: a very common thing.
Speaker 3: Don't feel bad.
Speaker 4: I've actually had I've been around a lot of people
Speaker 4: who do that, and it's a it's a normal thing.
Speaker 4: So but hey, I'm proud of you for remembering. Of course,
Speaker 4: that's that's that's impressive.
Speaker 3: Mama Donnie, that's right. And and her her wonderful husband John,
Speaker 3: who's my stepdad. That's right. And while we're giving shout
Speaker 3: out sad And while we're giving out shout outs to
Speaker 3: the parents, how about a shout out to my.
Speaker 4: Dad Mark Coffee. Yes, just get the whole family in here.
Speaker 4: Of course, his wife, Mitzi. I mean we're giving out
Speaker 4: family shout outs today, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Mitzi is a great name. You like that, huh, I do.
Speaker 3: It's rare. I don't know many Mitzi's, but yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a it's a it's a fun name. It sounds like
Speaker 3: a nickname, like it's built in am I t z
Speaker 3: I mitzi.
Speaker 4: All right, let's play some more sound this uh this. Now,
Speaker 4: I knew you were going to go there. I could
Speaker 4: feel that happening. I could see it. I could see
Speaker 4: it in your face. You were about to you you
Speaker 4: were about to just slightly step over that line. Not
Speaker 4: where you did anything wrong, but you know, you just
Speaker 4: you made it kind of weird for me. And that's
Speaker 4: you like to keep me on my touch.
Speaker 3: A step mom, dude. All right, let's hear.
Speaker 4: Terrence Edwards because he talked today at the press conferences
Speaker 4: as well as Pat Kelsey, Rain Smith, Chucky Hepburn, and
Speaker 4: Jevon Hadley. And this is Terrence talking about how how
Speaker 4: important it is to have of Rain Smith out there
Speaker 4: on the floor with these guys.
Speaker 9: You know, it's always better when Rain is on the
Speaker 9: floor because he spaces the floor and he kind of
Speaker 9: knows the system at the back of his hand because
Speaker 9: he's been with the coaches, and he helps us a
Speaker 9: lot with the offense and just send cuts up, send
Speaker 9: things up, and he just make your job much easier.
Speaker 4: And This is Rain himself talking about his health and
Speaker 4: availability for tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Had a great past week of treatment and kind of
Speaker 6: doing everything I can to get back, So it's in
Speaker 6: a really good spot now and looking forward to getting
Speaker 6: on the court with with my teammates and kind of
Speaker 6: competing in this tournament. It's an exciting time of the year,
Speaker 6: so just really excited to get out there.
Speaker 4: So we'll get back into this matchup a little bit
Speaker 4: later on, because I do want to let you guys
Speaker 4: hear some motivation that you know. I don't get the
Speaker 4: sense that Louisville meeting Pat Kelsey really is the kind
Speaker 4: of coach that's going to be out there looking for
Speaker 4: added fuel. I feel like they're kind of self made
Speaker 4: when it comes to just being ready to compete. But
Speaker 4: if you can get an extra edge chip on the shoulder,
Speaker 4: they certainly already have that with the Sea Line. But
Speaker 4: Seth Greenberg, this clown. I mean, there's no scenario what
Speaker 4: he said yesterday on the Pat McAfee show was anything
Speaker 4: other than just a direct f you to Louisville. And look,
Speaker 4: it's because he now has to hear from us, because
Speaker 4: he's one of the many that just you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know if he blamed us, but like he's one
Speaker 4: of those that just felt like Kenny Payne was the
Speaker 4: no brainer higher it would have been dumb to hire
Speaker 4: anybody else. And he's one of those that he's a
Speaker 4: stubborn former coach who will never admit that they might
Speaker 4: have been wrong. And you know, clearly whenever things were
Speaker 4: going bad for Kenny and Louisville fans of course wanted
Speaker 4: to change understandably, so he at times acted as we
Speaker 4: were at fault, maybe we were a factor. I mean,
Speaker 4: he wasn't to the level of a Corey Alexander because
Speaker 4: he didn't call our games. But he said him yesterday
Speaker 4: that I'll let you guys here on the other side
Speaker 4: that again, if they wanted some extra motivation there and
Speaker 4: you know, we won't matter because you know, we don't
Speaker 4: play meeting fans. But it fired me up, made me
Speaker 4: ready to see this team go out there and you know,
Speaker 4: hopefully get past this this Creighton team. I did see,
Speaker 4: so we I was walking out of the walking into
Speaker 4: the bowls of the arena as they say, from from
Speaker 4: rupp Arena on the court and Auburn had just showed
Speaker 4: up their bus and they were headed to get ready
Speaker 4: in the locker room and then you know, do their
Speaker 4: press commerence. They were later on in the day, but
Speaker 4: I was right around Bruce Pearls and I Broun the
Speaker 4: grandpa Baker Mazarro is that his name, And you know,
Speaker 4: they didn't look that scary, so I'm hoping we get
Speaker 4: a chance at him on Saturday. They did look very old,
Speaker 4: by the way, which they are. They are as old
Speaker 4: they're starting lineup. They're old, should have been out the
Speaker 4: game years ago. It's the home because he ates his wife.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you do that, right, yeah, oh yeah. Anyways,
Speaker 4: they are old. They're starting lineup. The average age is
Speaker 4: nearly the same age as the starting lineup for the
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 3: But look, they're good.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna act like they're they're anything other than
Speaker 4: a great team. But man, I just would love to
Speaker 4: get a shot at them. Last week it was working
Speaker 4: towards getting a shot at Duke.
Speaker 3: We got it. I want to shot at Auburn.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: May be careful what you wish for, but look, there's nothing.
Speaker 4: There's the one thing that I just can't stop thinking
Speaker 4: about is just the difference. It's going to be to
Speaker 4: either make it to the round of thirty two or
Speaker 4: lose tomorrow. Like again, losing on Saturday would still suck,
Speaker 4: especially for at home. But man, I just hope they
Speaker 4: win tomorrow. All right, quick break, we'll come back on
Speaker 4: the other side. Talk about the Indiana Higher. I don't
Speaker 4: think it's a bad higher, but it's also not a
Speaker 4: big splash either, which I'm not sure that was possible.
Speaker 3: But I think they could have done better. But we'll see.
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Speaker 5: Hey? Nick?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I got a two games on one to run.
Speaker 10: Pass it right? Will Wade taking the NC stage job.
Speaker 10: I mean that McNee stay was a trendy trendy epsit pick.
Speaker 10: Do you think that affects anything there, affects the way
Speaker 10: is peens your.
Speaker 4: Life in the early rounds, I would say McNeese State,
Speaker 4: they have to know that their coach is probably I'll
Speaker 4: put it this way, it'll it'll probably impact them to
Speaker 4: an extent. But I wouldn't be as worried about it
Speaker 4: as maybe others because here's what I think could easily
Speaker 4: be happening. He's already told told them about it, and
Speaker 4: he kind of admitted that today he's probably saying, hey,
Speaker 4: let's go on a run here and I'm gonna bring
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring some of you guys.
Speaker 3: With me to n C State.
Speaker 4: So you know, it is a distraction, But we're in
Speaker 4: such a different world now that I feel like these
Speaker 4: guys are going to know that they're gonna be more
Speaker 4: eyes on them because there's there's They're already being talked
Speaker 4: about as a trendy upset pick. So you know, maybe
Speaker 4: maybe it is an issue for him, but I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be as worried about it as much as others. And
Speaker 4: I also think NC State's making the right call here.
Speaker 10: Okay, and here's four games. I want to run val
Speaker 10: you real quick and tell me if you agree with
Speaker 10: me or you might go the other way. Okay, tonight
Speaker 10: out tonight. I love Exager. You could lay the points,
Speaker 10: I'd probably take him on the money on but I
Speaker 10: love Exager over Texas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I make a lot of I make a lot
Speaker 4: of jokes about about Sean Miller being allergic to the
Speaker 4: Final Four because he's never made it, but he is
Speaker 4: a good coach in March. He's made a lot of
Speaker 4: Elite eights and sweet sixteens and Xavier. You know, they've
Speaker 4: got a big name, Zach Fremantle, who quietly had a
Speaker 4: pretty good year this year, but two years ago he
Speaker 4: was like a rising star in college basketball, got hurt,
Speaker 4: missed all of last season. So I've just never been
Speaker 4: sold on on this Texas team. I mean, when I
Speaker 4: watched the loaded SEC, I kind of felt like, just
Speaker 4: as far as personnel, Texas was on the low end,
Speaker 4: as far as just you know, I don't feel like
Speaker 4: there is loaded now. Trey Johnson the freshman, he's special,
Speaker 4: so like maybe he he goes off, but no, I
Speaker 4: like I like Xavier minus too, and especially knowing they're
Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna have a real home court advantage.
Speaker 10: Okay, then I love I love Saint Mary's overall.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you get Vanity.
Speaker 10: Out of the memo, and they just are not the
Speaker 10: same team.
Speaker 4: They don't defend and they did enough at the right
Speaker 4: time to punch a ticket to the dance, but they
Speaker 4: did not look well at the end of the year.
Speaker 4: And I think what you said is the truth that
Speaker 4: they're not playing in Memorial. They they look like the
Speaker 4: Vandy of old.
Speaker 10: And then two more and I'll let you out of here.
Speaker 10: I love. I don't like to give this many points,
Speaker 10: but I would do it. I think Gonzaga takes care
Speaker 10: of Georgia. I don't know that they blow them out,
Speaker 10: but I definitely think they win the game. Uh and
Speaker 10: the Arizona Acron game it's a high total bad things
Speaker 10: going over and I'll hang up in much and thank.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Terry, appreciate it. Yeah, Gonzaga. I think Mark Few
Speaker 4: is super safe in the first round in most years,
Speaker 4: and I think they'll win. I just don't know if
Speaker 4: I would take them minus six and a half. Georgia
Speaker 4: competitive team. They're one of those teams that their best win,
Speaker 4: the win that has the real value that got them
Speaker 4: in the tournament and avoiding the bubble was beating Saint John's.
Speaker 4: But they also beat Saint John's in November on a
Speaker 4: Saturday morning. This was a rare game for Georgia and
Speaker 4: Saint John's. They both played in different holiday events that
Speaker 4: took place at the same resort in the Bahamas, and
Speaker 4: they stayed after a day or two longer than anybody
Speaker 4: else in their events and just played a one off
Speaker 4: game at that neutral site. And that's where Saint John's loss.
Speaker 4: So I kind of feel like Georgia and Georgia b
Speaker 4: Kentucky of course, which that's that's another big win that
Speaker 4: helped them get in. So you know it can put
Speaker 4: it this way, Mark Few has been able to make
Speaker 4: the Sweet sixteen.
Speaker 2: More.
Speaker 4: Let me pull it up here because I know currently
Speaker 4: there's no team that has made the Sweet sixteen consecutively
Speaker 4: like Gonzaga has. I mean, the the longest active street
Speaker 4: of at least streak of at least making the Sweet
Speaker 4: sixteen belongs to Gonzagon. I'm trying to figure out when
Speaker 4: it was. Yeah, the last time they did not make
Speaker 4: it at least to the Sweet sixteen was in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4: So they always take care of business early, and I
Speaker 4: feel like they're going to do that at least in
Speaker 4: the first round this year. But you got to keep
Speaker 4: in mind what happened with Gonzaga is that you know
Speaker 4: they would they would have a thirty one in one
Speaker 4: record or a twenty eight and four, maybe a thirty
Speaker 4: one and six, thirty two and five, thirty five and three.
Speaker 4: And what happens is these this ends up getting them
Speaker 4: really good seeds, right, So maybe they end up getting
Speaker 4: to the second weekend because they end up getting the
Speaker 4: best possible scenario as far as seed line, right, Like
Speaker 4: there's I don't I've never felt like they're worthy of
Speaker 4: the seeds they give because again, they just don't play
Speaker 4: anybody for two and a half months, and that didn't
Speaker 4: mean they're not any good, but like they're not battle tested.
Speaker 4: But because they get that one or the two, mostly
Speaker 4: a one, they end up having to play a sixteen
Speaker 4: and then you know an eight or nine, which you
Speaker 4: know you got to play well to beat those teams
Speaker 4: in most cases. But yeah, to answer your question, Terry,
Speaker 4: I don't know if I would take at six and
Speaker 4: a half just because I think Georgia could compete and
Speaker 4: I watched Gonzaga earlier this year. The leftovers from the
Speaker 4: PAC twelve ended up, I guess for the season being
Speaker 4: a part of the conference that Gonzaga and Saint Mary's
Speaker 4: in is at the WCC. I think it's what it's called,
Speaker 4: and I watched it was I think it was might
Speaker 4: have been Washington State. No, it's Oregon State.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Oregon State got Gonzaga pretty good.
Speaker 4: And that probably shouldn't be what I based my decision
Speaker 4: on here because it's just one game, but they just
Speaker 4: didn't look like a Gonzaga team that would typically put
Speaker 4: fear into other teams. So maybe I'm just giving too
Speaker 4: much respect to the SEC. But I would actually take
Speaker 4: Georgia to cover plus six and a half. And then
Speaker 4: the other game that he mentioned Akron in Arizona one
Speaker 4: sixty six and a half. That's a lot of points.
Speaker 4: Let me see what ken Palm has here, because I
Speaker 4: don't think that's a I don't think that's a bad
Speaker 4: call to take the over. I know Arizona is gonna
Speaker 4: score a lot of points, but the current projected score
Speaker 4: according to ken Palm is eighty nine whoops, sorry, drop
Speaker 4: my phone eighty nine to seventy six. So that would
Speaker 4: put us at the total of one sixty five and
Speaker 4: a half. So the Ken Palm formula tells you that,
Speaker 4: you know, if you want to trust ken Palm.
Speaker 3: Then you would take the under.
Speaker 4: But I would probably I'd probably take the over to too,
Speaker 4: just because I think both teams will will be able
Speaker 4: to score. Now, if you're looking to make a bet
Speaker 4: on that game. As far as the spread, I really
Speaker 4: really really like Acron to cover. I think John Gross
Speaker 4: is a coach that if he got another chance at
Speaker 4: a bigger school what he's good at and he's good,
Speaker 4: he wins. He won a lot of games at Miami, Ohio.
Speaker 4: He did decent at Illinois, but never really broke through,
Speaker 4: and he probably deserved to be moved on from But
Speaker 4: at accurate. He's bounced back in a major way, and
Speaker 4: I think what he's good at, what makes him a
Speaker 4: good coach, is really valuable now in this new world.
Speaker 4: But anyways, what I was going to share with you
Speaker 4: as far as the number here, we talked about this
Speaker 4: a little bit yesterday, but I'll reset it again since
Speaker 4: we're talking about this matchup specifically. But when it comes
Speaker 4: to let's see, where's it at here?
Speaker 3: I just had it pulled up. Now I can't find it.
Speaker 3: Where is it?
Speaker 4: Because the fourth I'm sorry, whatever seed? What seed is Arizona?
Speaker 3: They are four or three? I think there are four seed?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so four seeds that are favored by a certain
Speaker 4: amount meeting here it is, And I'm sorry for spinning
Speaker 4: my wheelshairs to make.
Speaker 3: Sure I get it correct. Yeah, so four seeds have
Speaker 3: gone seventeen I'm sorry. Let me back up.
Speaker 4: Four seeds have gone seven, fifteen and one against the
Speaker 4: spread when favored by eight and a half points or
Speaker 4: more in the last ten tournaments. So thirty one point
Speaker 4: eight percent of the time have four seats covered when
Speaker 4: they're favored by eight and a half or more. Currently,
Speaker 4: Akron is fourteen point dogs, So I like Akron to cover.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of points. I think Akron is a
Speaker 4: pretty good team and the MAC. The MAC is a
Speaker 4: league that nobody would claim is anything other than a
Speaker 4: mid major. But I think the MAC, when they've got
Speaker 4: some good like the top of the MAC in most instances,
Speaker 4: I think is a better league than people give it
Speaker 4: credit for. So I'm not saying they'll win, but I
Speaker 4: think they'll I think they'll score a lot of points,
Speaker 4: and I think they can keep it within thirteen.
Speaker 3: This is Tommy Lloyd's third year, right, yep? Or second? Okay,
Speaker 3: I think it's his third year.
Speaker 4: It's at least his third year, and he's had I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like I know, they lost to an IVY
Speaker 4: League team in his first year, and yeah, so they
Speaker 4: lost to In twenty twenty three, they lost to Princeton,
Speaker 4: and in that season they were really good. I think
Speaker 4: they were a two seed and lost to a fifteen
Speaker 4: seeded Princeton team, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had Benedict mathern all that team.
Speaker 4: And then last year they went twenty seven and nine,
Speaker 4: got a two seed and ended up losing in the
Speaker 4: sweet sixteen to Clemson, who of course finally broke through
Speaker 4: and made.
Speaker 3: It to the Elite eight.
Speaker 4: So Tommy Lloyd, I would say, you know his h
Speaker 4: and by the way, his first year.
Speaker 3: This is his fourth year, by the.
Speaker 4: Way, so his first year was in twenty twenty two
Speaker 4: and he went thirty three and four and they made
Speaker 4: the Sweet sixteen and lost to Houston, who was the
Speaker 4: two seed. They were the one seed. So outside of
Speaker 4: that upset when they lost to Princeton, I feel like
Speaker 4: the Tommy air Tommy Lloyd AIRA has been pretty good Tarazona, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I kind of feel like they need to
Speaker 4: you know, I think an early exit here, like if
Speaker 4: I got upset by Akron, that would be bad news.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he's been a like he's one of those
Speaker 4: guys that set and waited forever to be a head coach.
Speaker 4: He sat behind mark U Againzaga and the patients paid off.
Speaker 4: And I don't think that right now, that's the kind
Speaker 4: of higher that I would be making. Like I just
Speaker 4: when it comes to Power five jobs, I just don't
Speaker 4: think the risk is worth it to get a guy
Speaker 4: who's never coached a program, because you've got, like, you've
Speaker 4: got to have some experience in being in charge of
Speaker 4: a locker room managing personalities because nowadays like you got
Speaker 4: to be able.
Speaker 3: To be really the players.
Speaker 4: Got to respect you, They got to be able to
Speaker 4: communicate with you. And if you've never done that before,
Speaker 4: you may be great at it. You may just be
Speaker 4: waiting on that opportunity. But it's also a risk for
Speaker 4: the employer to say, hey, we'll see if you can
Speaker 4: give it a shot, because it's a different thing being
Speaker 4: an assistant and a head coach. I think we all
Speaker 4: have known for a long time that's a big difference.
Speaker 4: There's a big difference in what that job is. But man,
Speaker 4: if we didn't learn it around here now again, I'm
Speaker 4: sure there are many other coaches. In fact, any other
Speaker 4: coach that's been a long time assistant that got an
Speaker 4: opportunity to be a head coach would do better than
Speaker 4: Kenny Payne did. But I just like, for example, the
Speaker 4: decisions that Miami and Florida State made when they when
Speaker 4: they hired their coaches. That may look there's no way
Speaker 4: to know. You never know with any higher it's going
Speaker 4: to work out. But I just like, if that doesn't
Speaker 4: work out, I'll think, Okay, there were proven coaches that
Speaker 4: maybe haven't coached in the ACC or the Power five level. Man,
Speaker 4: they've proven they've got a winning formula, why not give
Speaker 4: them the keys to what you've got in the garage
Speaker 4: and let them, you know, bring over their formula and
Speaker 4: and you know, have better things to work with. I
Speaker 4: just to me, that's to me right now, with where
Speaker 4: we are in college athletics, I feel like that is
Speaker 4: the most obvious way to go about it, unless you
Speaker 4: can go get you know, a big name. And by
Speaker 4: the way, speaking of big names, this guy's not a
Speaker 4: big name. We've talked about him this week. Darien Devrees
Speaker 4: he left West Virginia after a season to now go
Speaker 4: to Indiana. I don't think Indiana in any way made
Speaker 4: like a I we'll never know until we get a
Speaker 4: couple of years in to see if this is gonna
Speaker 4: work or not, just like any other higher But I
Speaker 4: don't want to make it sound like I think this
Speaker 4: guy's a bad coach.
Speaker 3: He was really successful.
Speaker 4: At Drake and in his first year at West Virginia,
Speaker 4: you know, to be to be fair, if he didn't
Speaker 4: lose his son in early December to an injury, they
Speaker 4: probably belie or safely and in fact, they should have
Speaker 4: been in any way. I mean, Givonne Small transferred from
Speaker 4: Oklahoma State to West Virginia. He was an All American
Speaker 4: caliber player. We saw that firsthand. That back and forth
Speaker 4: between him and Chucky in the Bahamas was was unreal.
Speaker 4: So you know, I don't dislike to hire for Indiana.
Speaker 4: I just you know, if it was me, I think
Speaker 4: I probably would have more so been been. I don't know,
Speaker 4: because maybe Ben McCollum is the guy who's a great coach,
Speaker 4: but like maybe it would be a really big adjustment
Speaker 4: for him to go to D two to Drake to
Speaker 4: being the coach of Indiana. But it sounds like now
Speaker 4: the Iowa job will probably end up going to Ben McCullum.
Speaker 4: But you know, Indiana, they do kind of you know, again,
Speaker 4: you can't I'm gonna laugh at the joke, but also
Speaker 4: not make fun of them.
Speaker 3: Can you do that? Is that possible? Is that a thing? Sure?
Speaker 4: Can you be laughing at laughing at someone's expense, but
Speaker 4: you're not the one making fun of them. Of course,
Speaker 4: because I hide behind that the tweet that the that
Speaker 4: was sent out yesterday by one of the college basketball
Speaker 4: writers that I follow, I mean, it's really like not
Speaker 4: even that funny, but it is kind of funny, like
Speaker 4: it made me, It made me internally laugh, and that
Speaker 4: was I mean, if you can go hire a coach
Speaker 4: who didn't or if you're gonna let me, let me,
Speaker 4: let me, let me back up because I don't want to.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make sure I give credit because again it's
Speaker 4: this person being mean to Indiana fans, not me. I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna share it with you. And also again I
Speaker 4: admitted that I did. I did kind of laugh. But
Speaker 4: this is Carter Elliott, who covers college basketball for Sleepers
Speaker 4: Media and bleacher Report. He said, anytime you can fire
Speaker 4: your coach for not making the tournament only to hire
Speaker 4: a coach that also didn't make the tournament, you have
Speaker 4: to do exactly that, which I mean to.
Speaker 3: Be fair though good one, but yeah, like what makes.
Speaker 4: That not like I mean, it is kind of funny,
Speaker 4: but like West Virginia should have been in, Like we
Speaker 4: can laugh at them now because they lost their coach
Speaker 4: and they got left out and there's no better fan
Speaker 4: there's no, you know, no better fan base south of
Speaker 4: than West Virginia.
Speaker 3: I just feel so.
Speaker 4: Bad for their fans because they're so they're such great people,
Speaker 4: but anyways, like as much as we can make fun
Speaker 4: of them, which we are, they I mean, they belonged
Speaker 4: in the tournament like they should have been in.
Speaker 3: There's no real question about that.
Speaker 4: All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side,
Speaker 4: wrap up the four o'clock hour, and I want to
Speaker 4: let you guys here what Seth Greenberg had to say,
Speaker 4: because I just don't think there's any way you could
Speaker 4: spend this as it being anything other than just him
Speaker 4: wanting to tee off and take a shot at Louisville.
Speaker 4: And as to why he'd want to do that, probably
Speaker 4: because he doesn't like us, not because he's conspiring against us.
Speaker 4: But you know, he's one of those that was real
Speaker 4: loud about Kenny Payne not getting a fair deal and whatnot.
Speaker 4: And you know we don't forget stuff like that around here.
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Speaker 4: That's right, we were wrapping up the four o'clock hour
Speaker 4: here on a Wednesday afternoon, another day of playing games,
Speaker 4: and then tomorrow it all gets started and Louisville, of course,
Speaker 4: will get the whole thing started with the first game
Speaker 4: in the round of sixty four. And it's our last
Speaker 4: I mean, it's our last show, of course, our last
Speaker 4: hour coming up here before we get to tomorrow. And
Speaker 4: what I mean is when we start the show tomorrow,
Speaker 4: we're gonna know one way or the other, is it
Speaker 4: all over? Are we continuing to keep this really fun
Speaker 4: and awesome season alive? And only Tom will tell. All right,
Speaker 4: one person who is quite clearly he's not worried about
Speaker 4: as far as what's going to happen to Louisville. He
Speaker 4: either has seen the future or he's just that confident
Speaker 4: in Creighton. Because Seth Greenberg was on with Pat McAfee
Speaker 4: yesterday and of course was asked about the toughest I
Speaker 4: think it might have been something along the lines of
Speaker 4: like who got the toughest draw and instead of saying
Speaker 4: Louisville because of, you know, being an eight seed that
Speaker 4: a lot of people, most people thought that they shouldn't be,
Speaker 4: or maybe Creighton having to play, you know, Louisville in
Speaker 4: Lexington he went, he went with Auburn and here's what
Speaker 4: he here's what he had to say.
Speaker 11: Ball, But I think they've got the toughest second round
Speaker 11: game in the tournament, even if even after if they
Speaker 11: win their first game, they get a Creighton team like
Speaker 11: Creighton is good, the big kid kolp Renner, he's like
Speaker 11: a one man's own. They play fast, a really good
Speaker 11: passing team, sneaky defensive team.
Speaker 4: So you know, maybe he just is that confident, But
Speaker 4: it's almost as if he doesn't even really think there's
Speaker 4: any reason to play the game between Creighton and Louisville.
Speaker 4: And I don't think anybody's out of line to think
Speaker 4: that Creyton can win this game. I mean, trust me,
Speaker 4: I won't be shocked if Creighton wins. And you know,
Speaker 4: I'm sure there are endless scenarios that could give you
Speaker 4: that result. But it's just because I think these teams
Speaker 4: are pretty evenly matched for the most part, and it's
Speaker 4: just going to come down to who plays better, who
Speaker 4: makes more shots that coming. You know, I'd be really
Speaker 4: shocked if this thing is ugly one way or the other.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you agree? Austin like this to me, he just
Speaker 4: doesn't feel like a game that's gonna get that's gonna
Speaker 4: get out of hand on either side, and and you know,
Speaker 4: I would hope that it does get out of hand
Speaker 4: and it's Louisville on the right side of that. But
Speaker 4: you know, I don't, I don't really, I never really
Speaker 4: embrace the it's us against the world because I just
Speaker 4: don't believe that that that Louisville is on the minds
Speaker 4: of so many people to where they're just plotting for
Speaker 4: our downfall, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, I just don't. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think we and I don't want to say
Speaker 4: that it's because we're irrelevant. It's just that I don't
Speaker 4: think a lot of people are wired that way. Like
Speaker 4: I don't think that anybody is out there thinking about
Speaker 4: how they hope the worst for Louisville and they're going
Speaker 4: to conspire to screw Louisville over I just because I
Speaker 4: just don't think that's how a lot of people are.
Speaker 4: But again, maybe I'm giving people a bed fitted out.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm too naive when it comes to that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff. But your rival is different. That's that's a
Speaker 4: whole totally different thing. But it has been to me,
Speaker 4: it has been pretty clear with certain people that really
Speaker 4: don't like our fan base because we let them know
Speaker 4: we were listening when you said nonsensical things about our program,
Speaker 4: our fan base. In Kenny Payne burning into the ground
Speaker 4: right like Corey Alexander in the ACC tournament was unbelievable,
Speaker 4: Like I I mean, I get the hate now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like so, he I think did about as good of
Speaker 4: a job as I thought he could do when it
Speaker 4: comes to just coming back to Louisville and doing a
Speaker 4: game knowing that like he was the one that it
Speaker 4: all opportunity would tell Louisville fans they were the problem,
Speaker 4: not Kenny. Kenny deserved it better another year. I mean,
Speaker 4: even in Kenny's last game, whenever they were losing in
Speaker 4: the ACC tournaments n C State, as the clock's running
Speaker 4: out and the game's over, he used that airtime, which
Speaker 4: is really not what he's supposed to do, at least
Speaker 4: I don't think he is. I don't think his employer
Speaker 4: wants him out there using the platform to advocate for
Speaker 4: coaches to keep their jobs. But he did that. And
Speaker 4: like even Beheim, who didn't want to pile on Beajem
Speaker 4: is just you know, probably ready to get the you know,
Speaker 4: the day of shame games over with. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: but you gotta win games. I mean, and you know
Speaker 4: which is true. You have to be We don't need
Speaker 4: to get into the whole kpire as far as like
Speaker 4: what would have needed to happen for him to stay.
Speaker 4: But Corey, you know he not only was he clearly
Speaker 4: wrong about everything he said about Kenny. Here we are
Speaker 4: proving him right in a major way in letting him
Speaker 4: know about it. I mean, I don't know how often
Speaker 4: he's on Twitter, and often he checks his mentions, but
Speaker 4: when Louisville was rolling and really all year, I don't
Speaker 4: think it was something Louisville fans did every day.
Speaker 3: But like he's probably the first guy that.
Speaker 4: Came to mind for certain folks whenever you thought, okay,
Speaker 4: you remember these clowns that told us that we were
Speaker 4: the problem and that like Kenny was a good coach
Speaker 4: and we needed to just get him time like this,
Speaker 4: you know, not only did we know they're wrong, now
Speaker 4: we have the proof and we can shove it and
Speaker 4: rub it in their face so understandably, So like he's
Speaker 4: gonna feel like Louisville fans are lunatics instead of just
Speaker 4: having some realization that you know, what you said was
Speaker 4: crazy and really I mean irresponsible to use platform and
Speaker 4: act like Louisville fans are going to keep Kenny Payne
Speaker 4: from getting recruits because we're upset that the team sucks.
Speaker 4: Ass Like, No, Louisville wasn't gonna get recruits because Kenny
Speaker 4: and his staff weren't even recruiting. Even if they were,
Speaker 4: who's would to come and play for a guy that
Speaker 4: showed in two years he was the worst coach of
Speaker 4: all time. So I think when he came back to
Speaker 4: do a game, instead of acknowledging any of that, he
Speaker 4: just talked up Louisville, talked up Pat Kelsey, and you know,
Speaker 4: he was a pro about it. That was I believe
Speaker 4: the way Forest game was the first time he came back.
Speaker 4: But in the ACC tournament, you could just tell because
Speaker 4: of you know, the blowback that he got from Louisville
Speaker 4: fans for just his ascid on takes and just how
Speaker 4: much we're gonna let you know, we remember he doesn't
Speaker 4: like us, and it's the human element that is uncontrollable
Speaker 4: at times. I don't think he has any issue with
Speaker 4: Pat Kelsey. I don't think he has any issue with
Speaker 4: Louisville players, but he hates Louisville because of the way
Speaker 4: we let him know he was wrong, and he you know,
Speaker 4: he needs to take his medicine. So to hear him
Speaker 4: in both the Clemson game and the Duke game, you know,
Speaker 4: not be able to like he he didn't come up
Speaker 4: for air, just out just just gagging on Clemson and
Speaker 4: and and Duke the whole time, and then losing his
Speaker 4: mind about the foul call That wasn't a foul in
Speaker 4: the Clemson game. Now, to be fair to him, it
Speaker 4: did look like a foul in real time. The replay
Speaker 4: showed that it was very well exit. And by the way,
Speaker 4: we haven't talked about the ship. It's probably not relevant,
Speaker 4: but there's no way that that wasn't a strategized design
Speaker 4: sure to where they had the big fella Shifflin push
Speaker 4: tray Ora into Was it was it Edwards?
Speaker 3: Whoever?
Speaker 5: It was?
Speaker 4: Yes, that that that you know, and there was no
Speaker 4: contact I mean the push into him by Shefflin or
Speaker 4: was it no, No, Hunter was the guy that took
Speaker 4: it up. Okay, but there was a play. I mean,
Speaker 4: go back and look at it. He went up in
Speaker 4: the air, clearly tried to sell that he got there
Speaker 4: was a sniper in the nosebleeds that took him out
Speaker 4: that net I mean, I mean, I don't know how you.
Speaker 3: Put your neck back like that, to be honest.
Speaker 4: But before that or as he's going into the air,
Speaker 4: Trey Oray jumps to be kind of you know, rim protector,
Speaker 4: you know, around the rim because he's got good link
Speaker 4: like that, and Clemson pushes him in the back, And
Speaker 4: I honestly, what't a bad idea about Brad brown Well
Speaker 4: to push your guy into his guy, who then forces
Speaker 4: the defender on Hunter to commit a foul and Guible
Speaker 4: didn't foul him. But he's so bad even if it
Speaker 4: was a bad call, like Heapke came unglued as if
Speaker 4: he was the Clemson coach upset about a call that
Speaker 4: you know might have cost him a game.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's just part of Like again,
Speaker 3: I I'm the.
Speaker 4: Reason I bringing all this up is because I'm now
Speaker 4: kind of getting into embracing it a little bit more.
Speaker 4: Not because I really think people are out there losing
Speaker 4: sleep thinking about Louisville, but like, yeah, when you're we
Speaker 4: are the fan base that that keeps receipts, pays attention,
Speaker 4: we know what We're not dumb. You can't fool us
Speaker 4: and tell us we're the problem. So I think it's
Speaker 4: just gonna be like that with Corey Alexander for a
Speaker 4: long time. And I'll give you an example. Some of
Speaker 4: you guys may not remember. It's kind of faded since
Speaker 4: then because it's been so long. You remember, Kirk Curve
Speaker 4: Street let us know that Florida wasn't interested in the
Speaker 4: Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 3: Oh how long.
Speaker 4: We let him know about that? We don't forget around here.
Speaker 4: And I kind of love that about us, among many
Speaker 4: other things. All right, quick break, five o'clock hours next,
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