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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you study classic psychology psychiatry and you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the new wave, the new healing techniques that

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<v Speaker 2>are used in trauma care, a lot of it is

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<v Speaker 2>following the path of Hindu psychology, ancient Indian thought. Things

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<v Speaker 2>like meditation are showing to have huge beneficial repercussions for

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<v Speaker 2>people who are living through trauma, who are emotionally challenged,

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<v Speaker 2>who have been through tough childhoods, tough relationships, who are

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<v Speaker 2>hyper sensitive. And I discovered this over thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started meditating and it's so simple yet so powerful,

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<v Speaker 2>and our ancestors understood this, whoever developed meditative practices. And

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<v Speaker 2>what I use actually is a meditation with a mantra,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just a sound that you repeat in your head,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's the sound creates some kind of resonance in

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<v Speaker 2>the brain that quiets the brain. And what they've discovered

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<v Speaker 2>is when the brain is quiet, and in this tuning

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a tune, which is the mantra, it sinks

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<v Speaker 2>you have two brains. You have a left hemisphere and

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<v Speaker 2>the right hemisphere, which together make your brain. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you are meditating not only does it sink the left

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<v Speaker 2>and the right brain, it actually quiets the brain and

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<v Speaker 2>helps it vibrate on a healing level like a tuning fork.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're just beginning to understand how beneficial this is.

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<v Speaker 2>But it keeps the brain healthy. And if you're worried

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<v Speaker 2>about Alzheimer's, if you have a history of Alzheimer's in

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<v Speaker 2>your family, you should really be thinking about a meditative practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Because everyone thinks that when you sleep, that's a healing

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<v Speaker 2>that's a way to relax. It's true, but your brain's

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<v Speaker 2>still active when you're sleeping. When you're meditating, you're actively

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<v Speaker 2>quieting the brain. You're actively actively dropping it down into

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<v Speaker 2>certain vibration, which is healing but also beneficial. And the

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<v Speaker 2>longer you meditate, the better and the more productive the

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<v Speaker 2>healing is. And they're just beginning to figure this out

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<v Speaker 2>regarding dementia, regarding brain trauma, And as I mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>there are ancestors, most notaly the Hindus. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese has some meditative practice as well, but I'm most

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with the Indian systems of meditative practice. They understood this,

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<v Speaker 2>this was handed down to them, and I mentioned this,

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<v Speaker 2>this is so old, it's ridiculous. Somebody who understood the

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<v Speaker 2>intricacies of human physiology, human consciousness, invented meditation, invented yoga

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<v Speaker 2>and tai chi. These are subtle movements that link the body,

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<v Speaker 2>mind and the spirit and this is critical to health

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<v Speaker 2>and wellness. Hey, this is Cliff, your host of destiny,

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<v Speaker 2>and today we are talking about transcendent experiences, paranormal experiences

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<v Speaker 2>with a psychologist that's written a fascinating book on the

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<v Speaker 2>other levels of consciousness, the other levels of wellness, and

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<v Speaker 2>how we're not working with it enough. And as we

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<v Speaker 2>are growing up and we are becoming more consciou of

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<v Speaker 2>our surroundings and our impact, meditation is huge. Also working

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<v Speaker 2>with the paranormal, you know, working with working with reaching

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<v Speaker 2>out telepathically to animals, to others using intention. We talk

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<v Speaker 2>about attention all the time. And what's really fascinating about

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<v Speaker 2>today's guest is that the a Kashak records, the Akashik

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<v Speaker 2>storage is accessible to everyone in her estimation. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you heard the different people we've had over the years

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<v Speaker 2>talking about a Kashak records, I am one of these

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<v Speaker 2>people that are that is dumbfounded on how to actually

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<v Speaker 2>access them. And the more and the more guests we

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<v Speaker 2>have on the program, the better I'm understanding that it's

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<v Speaker 2>more of a quiet process that is self directed. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're closing your eyes and you're intending to connect, And

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<v Speaker 2>as you're intending to connect, you want to have something

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<v Speaker 2>in mind. I want to access a record. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a musical or writing problem. I need to have a

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<v Speaker 2>solution to that. I'm a scientist. I am a person

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<v Speaker 2>that is working on a lab project that I need

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<v Speaker 2>more clarity on. And if we look beyond the simple

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<v Speaker 2>scientific process and people who are regularly accessing or were

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<v Speaker 2>regularly accessing the CASHI records, we're thinking of Tesla and

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<v Speaker 2>how Tesla went in. Now, Tesla was such a genius

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<v Speaker 2>that he can there's stories of how he would control

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<v Speaker 2>his thoughts and he could assemble and disassemble mechanical devices

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<v Speaker 2>in his brain, and this is how he invented a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things. But the other thing about Tesla is

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<v Speaker 2>he was able to to probably he didn't probably think

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<v Speaker 2>of it as at CASHI Records, but he was able

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<v Speaker 2>to think intend to receive data or blueprints or information

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<v Speaker 2>on a machine or device, have it come through to

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<v Speaker 2>his consciousness, and it's likely that he played with it

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<v Speaker 2>in his mind before he actually reproduced it physically in

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<v Speaker 2>our reality. And this is what makes him the great genius.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember I'm always talking about his version of an

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<v Speaker 2>energy transmitter, which I think is similar to the Maya

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<v Speaker 2>or Egyptian or pyramid science. And this is this wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>free energy tower he created, called the Wardencliffe Tower that

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<v Speaker 2>was constructed in upstate New York, but never got off

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<v Speaker 2>the ground because he lost his funding. Westinghouse and these

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<v Speaker 2>other investors when they learned what Tesla's idea was to

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<v Speaker 2>provide free energy to anybody the power boats, homes, factories,

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<v Speaker 2>planes and whatever. That was too much for them. They

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't charge it. And that's you know, that's just how history.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing, though, is that he was so far

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of himself on a conscious level that many of

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<v Speaker 2>these devices that he brought through from the Akashik records

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<v Speaker 2>were probably too advanced for the time. You know, planes

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<v Speaker 2>jets powered by free energy, that's just too much. So

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<v Speaker 2>today's program is all about consciousness, the paranormal side of things,

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<v Speaker 2>what happens before we incarnate, and so much more. The

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<v Speaker 2>program is called a paranormal perspective, and my guest is

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Susan Plunkett. Hey, I do tours every year, and

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you that some of them are out standing.

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<v Speaker 2>We have one that's coming up in December that is

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<v Speaker 2>just over the top. It's the Guatemala Sacred Temple Tour

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<v Speaker 2>December first through the twelfth. What makes this tour simply

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<v Speaker 2>irresistible is the fact that we get to connect with

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<v Speaker 2>the pyramids. We get to climb pyramids and sit and

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<v Speaker 2>commune with them. Some of them are active. I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>speaking about John Burke and his testing. We will actually

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<v Speaker 2>sit on the Lost World pyramid that John tested and

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<v Speaker 2>actually showed is emitting vibration. So this tour is one

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<v Speaker 2>of a kind simply because we'll be interacting with archaeologists,

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<v Speaker 2>shaman and not only connecting with some of the oldest

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<v Speaker 2>sites of the Maya world, including Tikal and l Miodor.

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<v Speaker 2>We get to connect with these pyramids by sitting among them,

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<v Speaker 2>meditating and learning how to shift our vibration. For all

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<v Speaker 2>the details, all the information go to Earth Ancients dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward sized tours. We're about halfway full. We're only taking

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty people and as a special addition, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>helicopter to Elmador and climb the Lydonta Pyramid complex, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the largest pyramids in the Americas. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>tour not to be missed again earthacients dot Com forward

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<v Speaker 2>slash Tours. I'm always looking for titles of books and

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<v Speaker 2>material on the paranormal. It's an area that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>cover enough because it is something that is just beginning

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<v Speaker 2>to be well thought of. Prior to the psychological definitions

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<v Speaker 2>of different paranormal states. It was Madame Blavaski and Rudolf

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<v Speaker 2>Steiner providing their points of view, which is pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>esoteric and in my belief. My guest today is a

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<v Speaker 2>Youngian psychologist. Her name is Susan Pluggett. She has written

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<v Speaker 2>a new book called It's actually one of a series

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<v Speaker 2>called Paranormal Perspectives, a young in Understanding of Transcendent Experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>We were both talking before the start that she's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be changing the title's name, but we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>that at the end. And it's an important book on

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different levels because it's coming from a

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<v Speaker 2>psychologist who has delved into the paranormal and is giving

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<v Speaker 2>us her perspective. So hey, Susan, Welcome to Destiny. Great

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<v Speaker 2>to have you on the program.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for having the cliff.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing I want to mention is this book

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<v Speaker 2>is autobiographical.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's a memoir, but a specific memoir of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>different paranormal experiences that I had from pre birth to

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<v Speaker 1>age seventy five. My god, and you know what, after

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<v Speaker 1>I finished it, I thought of some others I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny because a lot of classically and

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<v Speaker 2>you're classically trained a psychologist, wouldn't delve into it and

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<v Speaker 2>grasp so many and actually consider them truths. Why did

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<v Speaker 2>you decide to write about this? Because I mean some

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<v Speaker 2>people would be embarrassed about what they're doing talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they would be. And I wouldn't have thought of

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<v Speaker 1>writing this book, I'll tell you that, even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite book that I've ever written. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote it was because Gavin Davies, who's the publicist

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<v Speaker 1>at my publishing company, said people need to know about

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<v Speaker 1>the paranormal. They need to look forward in their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>It's enriching. So I'm starting a series. Susan, write a

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<v Speaker 1>book about your paranormal experiences. I'm not the only one.

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<v Speaker 1>There are five or six authors who will slowly be published.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did because he gave me the brief that

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<v Speaker 1>was the whole brief, write about your paranormal experiences. So

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down and I made a list of what

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<v Speaker 1>I could remember of my own paranormal experiences to share

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<v Speaker 1>with people. But of course I'd look at everything through

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<v Speaker 1>a Jungian lens, because Carl Jung is the major influence

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<v Speaker 1>in my professional life. So I look at everything kind

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<v Speaker 1>of through what I understand of his psychology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, would you say that you are psychic?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I would say no. More than everyone. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that I'm intuitive and I do have psychic experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't walk around knowing what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that I see. I'm just not that open, though

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<v Speaker 1>each of us could be. I'm not choosing to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in that a little in my practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in the book, you have a lot of concepts

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<v Speaker 2>that you present that are natural. You use them naturally,

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<v Speaker 2>things like the Akashak records and subconscious mind, the soul,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think psychic awareness is also part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Although you don't talk about that you do mention in

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<v Speaker 2>your time in Berkeley and the Psychic Institute. We'll present

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<v Speaker 2>that in a minute. But do you feel that you're

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<v Speaker 2>out of the norm in your presentation of the data.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess uh, I mean I like it. I'm if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out of the norm, but I think whatever I

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<v Speaker 1>norm in terms of who can do this. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. Okay, So I'm out of the norm that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing it. But we are all made the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>We are all part of the same mind, the thing

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<v Speaker 1>Young called the ess mondus, the one world, the one mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's even quantum physicists. Nobel Prize winning quantum physicists like

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Schrodinger said, the number of minds in the universe

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is astro this is quantum physics. Yeah, so and

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<v Speaker 1>Young said so many times that we live in psyche.

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<v Speaker 1>We live. There's no reason that we have to believe

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<v Speaker 1>this three dimensional world which we perceive is real. Jung says,

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<v Speaker 1>the only evidence we have is the evidence of our senses.

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<v Speaker 1>But we all know that perception is bec specific. You

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<v Speaker 1>and I and every human listening. We see we walk

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<v Speaker 1>into a room, we see roughly the same room, but

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<v Speaker 1>a dragonfly fifty thousand eyes. They see a different room.

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<v Speaker 1>A dog that cut a turtle. So if every one

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<v Speaker 1>of the humans vanished from the earth, the earth as

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Uh, you open the book with a fascinating look

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<v Speaker 2>of I call it pre birth. When you're incarnating his soul,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Michael Newton.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's life between life regression. And he was just

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<v Speaker 1>So then he started people wanted to go there, like

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<v Speaker 1>these parents? What was I thinking? You know? So I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do that, So I contacted the Newton Institute

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the experiences I had was pre birth.

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<v Speaker 1>I also had other experiences in the life between life place.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you excuse me? For a minute. Did you say

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did that work, oh, with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Newton's well, one of his right hand people, Paul rand

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<v Speaker 1>Because I wanted to go to that space and I

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<v Speaker 2>So just let's go through that real quickly. So they

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<v Speaker 2>it was hypnotherapy or was it some other kind of regression.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a type of hypnotherapy, but you are in charge,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're not completely hypnotized. You're in a quasi hypnotic space.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of preparation before they will do this,

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<v Speaker 1>like you spend four hours just doing regular past life regression,

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<v Speaker 1>which I wasn't interested in because I'd done so much

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<v Speaker 1>of that when I was younger. But they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this with you unless they feel you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to flip out so you know, or not come back.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a risk because you don't really want to

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<v Speaker 1>come back because it feels so fantastic to communicate telepathically, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You actually go to that in between space in this regression. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>your body go, your soul.

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<v Speaker 1>Your consciousness, but he keeps They keep like a rope

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<v Speaker 1>or like a cord on you, and they keep asking

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<v Speaker 1>communicating telepathically, and it's such an annoyance, but they they

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<v Speaker 1>when they're going to insist that it's too you're too

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<v Speaker 1>long over there, so which calls you back and you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like think on. But it's just an amazing experience. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the early opening of your book when

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<v Speaker 2>you are ready to incarnate as a baby, and you

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<v Speaker 2>are and this is a fascinating how you remember this

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<v Speaker 2>is fascinating, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You're because of going over Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But your sister or the soul who was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be your sister, decides that she doesn't want to come

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<v Speaker 2>into the physicality. Give us a sense of what that

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<v Speaker 2>was like when you were bringing that through.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Well, first of all, I knew that my mother

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<v Speaker 1>had lost a twin, and I knew that she thought

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<v Speaker 1>she lost me. In the eighth months because they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>detect a heartbeat. Because I think I wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>come back either, but then I did. Because you're you

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<v Speaker 1>the while you're helping the mother to well you're doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're really building the body, so you have the option

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<v Speaker 1>not to. You don't have to be in there because

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<v Speaker 1>it's boring to the soul, Like you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in there. You kind of hang around, you can

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<v Speaker 1>check back and forth. But it I was frightened to

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<v Speaker 1>be born. I had the experience at being frightened, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie was frightened, and she told me some of that.

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<v Speaker 1>She was my imaginary friend after I was born. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>because many kids have imaginary friends. And of course my

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<v Speaker 1>parents knew her after I was born, and my father

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<v Speaker 1>was very accepting of her, like, tell us where she is,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't sit on her, you know all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, kids take it very seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, your father is very your mother is the problem

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<v Speaker 2>in your life. And your father is a ally in

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<v Speaker 2>many ways because he's sensitive as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very very spiritual. Yeah, he like he had seen

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<v Speaker 1>like when he was in college. He told me he

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<v Speaker 1>saw like the divine, he saw it in forms of light.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I knew that growing up, that he was

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<v Speaker 1>communicating with his father after he died.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right about that, told me.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me that, and then I saw them standing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>after my grandfather was dead.

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<v Speaker 2>So can you give us a sense of this in

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<v Speaker 2>between realm? Is is it heaven? Or it's more It

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be more preparatory than anything else I've heard about,

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<v Speaker 2>in that the script is being written or for this

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<v Speaker 2>for the life, the incarnation, and you're surrounded by souls

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<v Speaker 2>who are helper souls also people who are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be part of your childhood, midlife, and adult life. Talk

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about that, because that's fascinating, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Realm, and I think people probably experience it differently. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was more light in ethereal and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize this, but at one point the psychologist who

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<v Speaker 1>was keeping tabs on me said what do you look like?

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't want to be bothered looking, but he

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<v Speaker 1>said look down, look down, And I said, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>an oval. What color oval? He said? I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a blue oval. That's what I am here. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I can see, and I saw the other

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<v Speaker 1>people who I knew who they were, people I know

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<v Speaker 1>who are dead, my father, my sister, Carl jung as

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<v Speaker 1>ovals of light also, but the communication was totally telepathic,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw people there that were still alive on earth,

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<v Speaker 1>because a part of you, even when you're incarnated, is

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<v Speaker 1>still in another space, so you don't incarnate with all

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<v Speaker 1>your energy. Because I thought it was surprising that I

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<v Speaker 1>saw live people. And later I asked the psychologist, how

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<v Speaker 1>did I see some people I know are alive? And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, because all of you is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see them as recognizable souls or did you

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<v Speaker 2>see them as some.

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<v Speaker 1>Other but I knew who they were. You could feel

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<v Speaker 1>that this You feel who they are, and all the

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<v Speaker 1>communication is telepathic and people, it's sort of like just

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<v Speaker 1>floating and and it's just like a light realm. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a light realm, and it feels so good that

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<v Speaker 1>I was vaguely aware the whole time that my human

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<v Speaker 1>body was lying on the chaise, weeping, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>care about her. I didn't care what she was doing,

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<v Speaker 1>although I knew that I had to use her voice

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<v Speaker 1>to answer him when he was like tugging on me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's very not only is it interesting, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>very in depth where you're presenting, try to grasp.

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<v Speaker 1>People can read about this in Newton's books Michael Newton

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<v Speaker 1>Newton if you want to read this, Michael Newton, Life

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<v Speaker 1>Between Life, Regression, Life Beyond Life. Don't know all the titles,

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<v Speaker 1>but he will come up. We won't have trouble finding

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<v Speaker 1>him because he's famous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I had Michael Newton in San Francisco. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a program director for a conference called Whole Life, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I actually met him when he work in his books. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a goot, great speaker too, very very influential. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>he was.

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<v Speaker 1>A brave guy to put this stuff out there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's really stuck his neck out pretty far.

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<v Speaker 1>He stuck his neck out. Yeah, yeah, thank god he did.

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<v Speaker 2>The first couple of chapters are in depth in actually

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<v Speaker 2>describing these other realms. What do you call that realm

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<v Speaker 2>you call the realm heaven prior to birth, where your

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<v Speaker 2>souls are congregating, preparing to incarnate into a soul. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you define that place as?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I just call it a space that's outside

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what I mean. Excuse me, Susan. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the astral realm, the higher.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not the astral realm. It's beyond the astral

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It's a higher realm. But I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know a name for it. Okay, I don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>a name for it. Okay, people could call it heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>But if that's your lingo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you mentioned in the first couple of chapters that

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<v Speaker 2>you spent time in Berkeley, and you were at the

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<v Speaker 2>Berkeley Psyconic Institute where you were given a reading that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sparked your interests. I think, or maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>already had a natural interest in paranormal talk a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was as how old was was ide there? I

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<v Speaker 1>just walking on Telegraph Avenue and I saw a thing

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<v Speaker 1>on a pole that said, you know, I'd been in

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<v Speaker 1>the cafe, the famous cafe there the med I forget

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<v Speaker 1>the name, but anyway, there was a thing on a

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<v Speaker 1>the corner and it was this big yellow house at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and I made an appointment because I was

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<v Speaker 1>taught high school for two years, high school English. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of lost. So I went in there

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<v Speaker 1>and I had a great experience with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they train you at all or did you just

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<v Speaker 2>go for No?

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<v Speaker 1>I just went. I learned a little from them, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>I just went for a session. But it was a

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<v Speaker 1>very dramatic session. First it was just me and intuitive Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who was probably ten years older than me. I was

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<v Speaker 1>in my twenty she was probably in her thirties. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the house started shaking. The building started shaking. Immediately

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<v Speaker 1>the door opens, two more intuitives come in older, an

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<v Speaker 1>older man and older women, and all three of them

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<v Speaker 1>sit down across from me, and I say, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>And they say, there's a person here who doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>there's an entity here. It doesn't want you to have

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<v Speaker 1>this session, and it's trying to disrupt us. Wow, the

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<v Speaker 1>house was rocking. It wasn't like earthquake, but this three

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<v Speaker 1>story house was rocking. They stabilized it by driving this

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<v Speaker 1>entity person off, and then we did work to remove

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<v Speaker 1>a cord that had been Many people do this work,

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<v Speaker 1>remove a chord that had been placed in me sometime

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<v Speaker 1>before by this entity. And to do that we had

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<v Speaker 1>to work through my higher self to get permission, because

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<v Speaker 1>my higher self must have allowed it in some lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>or some dimension. So that was a very good experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And after that I made the decision to leave Berkeley

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty maid.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really I was feeling lost, and it was transformative.

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<v Speaker 1>So I two days later, I picked up the telephone.

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<v Speaker 1>In those days, it was, you know, nineteen seventy nine

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<v Speaker 1>or eight or something. There was no Internet for me

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, apply on I called the New School

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<v Speaker 1>for Social Research and I asked them to snail mail me.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, that's all. There was an application for graduate school,

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<v Speaker 1>and they sent it. I applied, I got accepted, and

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<v Speaker 1>I came back to New York and started school.

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<v Speaker 2>M amazing. We're going to take a short commercial break

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<v Speaker 2>to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will

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<v Speaker 2>return shortly with my guest. Today Susan Plunkett discussing her

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<v Speaker 2>new book, Paranormal Perspectives. We'll be right back. My guest

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<v Speaker 2>today is Susan Plunkett. She has written a new book

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<v Speaker 2>called Paranormal Perspectives. And this is a look at the

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<v Speaker 2>unconscious and paranormal activity that each of us possess prior

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<v Speaker 2>to incarnation and also what happens during our incarnation here

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<v Speaker 2>on planet Earth. At the end of each chapter, you

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<v Speaker 2>have kind of a work paragraph where you ask people

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of look in word and be introspective. Why

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<v Speaker 2>did you add that to the book? Did you feel

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<v Speaker 2>that it was important or talk about that aspect of

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<v Speaker 2>the chapters.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you exactly what I wouldn't have thought of

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<v Speaker 1>it myself. I worked for a number of years with

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<v Speaker 1>a shaman who lived half time Peru, half the time

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia. She was the daughter of an Australian aboriginator

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<v Speaker 1>and she was a powerful She is a powerful shaman.

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<v Speaker 1>She's now in Australia and she channeled a group entity,

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<v Speaker 1>a group mind, which she called the arcs Now. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they must have maybe were archangels, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>so loving to me, and they would tell me things

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<v Speaker 1>that I often did not want to hear or do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they told me, you have to write. You're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to write, you incarnated to write. You're a scribe. You're

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<v Speaker 1>a scribe. You're supposed to write a trilogy. Oh. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to do that too hard. Then they told

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<v Speaker 1>me ten years before this book. Ten years before this book,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, oh, by the way, you're going to write

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<v Speaker 1>a book. You're going to write a book with workbook

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<v Speaker 1>exercises at the end of each chapter.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, fast forward ten years. Gavin Davies, my publicist, says,

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<v Speaker 1>like Susan, I'll write a book back in paranorl experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm writing it and I keep having the thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>put something at the end of each chapter. Just give

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<v Speaker 1>them something that they can try. And then after I

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<v Speaker 1>finished the book, or at the last chapter, I realized

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<v Speaker 1>it's a freaking book. Book they told me to write

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago. I didn't know I was going.

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<v Speaker 2>To That's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very they were just don't question these beings

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<v Speaker 1>that speak to you because they know so much more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you. Do you feel the books

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<v Speaker 2>in some ways channeled by the higher realms?

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<v Speaker 1>You're just kind of a yeah, this book is not

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<v Speaker 1>channel because unless except they probably told me to remind

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<v Speaker 1>me to do the exercises. But I have another book

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<v Speaker 1>called Mission from Venus, which was completely pretty much channeled.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that's the trilogy they told me to write, except

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't finished it because I stopped the third book

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<v Speaker 1>to do this book, and now I have to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the third book. But boy, my nails. But

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<v Speaker 1>the first two books are out, and the first one

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<v Speaker 1>is Mission from Venus, where these higher dimensional beings incarnate

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<v Speaker 1>as human.

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<v Speaker 2>To be.

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<v Speaker 1>To then have to wake up so that they can help.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're familiar with the Raw Material

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<v Speaker 1>or your listeners are, or the Law of One, but

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<v Speaker 1>they Raw talks about wanderers, and when Raw was channeled

484
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<v Speaker 1>by Carla Rucker and Don Elkins in nineteen eighty one,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, there are sixty five million wanderers on Earth now,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are from the fifth dimension, and they are

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<v Speaker 1>here attempting to wake up realize they've come from a

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<v Speaker 1>higher dimension in order to teach humans that they are divine,

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<v Speaker 1>that we all can do all these things, that we

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<v Speaker 1>are all as young. Said part of the collective Unconscious

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Unus Mundus. So, yeah, those books are channeled,

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<v Speaker 1>but this book was just written on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because the raw material has been around. But

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<v Speaker 2>more importantly, I have people on the program talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the fifth dimension. It's like, why we going to the

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<v Speaker 2>fifth we still need to work on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth and we're you know, we're kind of half in

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<v Speaker 1>the third and half in the fourth. Now, yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>Manka told me Manka was an early teacher, disincarnate teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, but I mean, what is the fifth dimension

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<v Speaker 2>offering us?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't know because I'm only here in

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<v Speaker 1>third and fourth. But from what I understand from things

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<v Speaker 1>I've read that it's much more loving, that we have

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<v Speaker 1>a more unity consciousness, We are much more able to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the world of oneness. You know, Young talks

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<v Speaker 1>about are two that we're all made of two our

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<v Speaker 1>little self, which is our ego self, and then our

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<v Speaker 1>eternal aspect, our number two self, the s And I

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<v Speaker 1>think what I understand is that when we're in the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth dimension, we're much less in the little ego self

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<v Speaker 1>and we're much more in the big transcendent self that

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<v Speaker 1>understands oneness in the sense that raw talks about it

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<v Speaker 1>that we are all part of one being. Although Raw

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<v Speaker 1>was a sixth dimensional being, so he was heading much

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<v Speaker 1>more towards the unmanifest. And he said that he was

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<v Speaker 1>part of a social memory complex, so he was not

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<v Speaker 1>one being. I think Seth, for example. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody's talked about Seth, but Seth was channeled in

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties by Jane Roberts. Seth seemed to have although

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<v Speaker 1>we had an Oversaul, he had his own kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fifth dimensional consciousness. But by the sixth dimension, Raw talks

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<v Speaker 1>about we we you know, even though he's just speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we move closer and closer to the oneness.

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<v Speaker 1>People say you're higher. Sell lives in the six dimension

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<v Speaker 1>and reaches back if we ask for help.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we talk a little bit about who we incarnate

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<v Speaker 2>with each lifetime. I'm aware of the story or the

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<v Speaker 2>understanding that we have a script. I'm always curious to

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<v Speaker 2>know how much of that script is predestined and how

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<v Speaker 2>much free will we have. But within that, let me

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<v Speaker 2>just start with this first part and then we'll go

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<v Speaker 2>through the free will part. Who do we incarnate with

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<v Speaker 2>and what you Let's start with the unseen do we

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<v Speaker 2>have like unseen people around us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, lots of beings around all of us. We

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<v Speaker 1>can ask for help. They can't intervene if we don't ask,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are most likely part of our solo group.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of our solo group will be incarnate with us.

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<v Speaker 1>We as far as I understand it, we all are

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<v Speaker 1>part of a solo group. We're all part of the oneness.

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<v Speaker 1>But within the oneness there's our local soul group. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have we incarnate again and again, and we

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<v Speaker 1>offer each other experiences, and we have free will. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a script according to Raw, but if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>wake up, we will have written options. This is raw.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm giving now into the script, Like, if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>wake up by a certain time, give me a catalyst,

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00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:53.079
<v Speaker 1>an accident, an illness, a heartbreak, a loss, so that

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<v Speaker 1>I will wake up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's stop for a minute, Susan. So what you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying is when you incarnate, you're supposed to to have

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<v Speaker 2>an AHA period where it shifts you into self realization.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know if it's an AHA because you

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<v Speaker 1>come through the veil of forgetting. We all do, so

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<v Speaker 1>we don't remember where we're coming from or who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're very confused, and we start to adjust to

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<v Speaker 1>this life, and we start to just believe the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of our senses. But some of us, probably psychics and

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<v Speaker 1>people like that, didn't lose everything. They kind of remember

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff where it starts to come back to them

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<v Speaker 1>and they start to wonder and work a little. So

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot the question.

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<v Speaker 2>So who do we incarnate with.

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<v Speaker 1>The our soul group? Yeah, our solo group. We probably

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<v Speaker 1>tend to come one one week, I mean, one lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the mother, the next year the son, your brother.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the mother, You're the murderer, you're the betrayer, you're

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<v Speaker 1>the savior, you're the hero. You know. Yeah, we try

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<v Speaker 1>different roles, all with the purpose of waking up to

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<v Speaker 1>remember that we are none of those. We are a

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<v Speaker 1>divine light being. We are a divine light being.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we ask for help from the unseen world?

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<v Speaker 1>There are some really big and good ways. One is dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>You can ask for the gift of the dream every night,

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<v Speaker 1>because dreams come from the collective unconscious and the personal unconscious,

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<v Speaker 1>which is beyond space time. So dreams can see around

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<v Speaker 1>corners and into the future, because where there is no

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<v Speaker 1>space time. There is no past president. There's just access

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<v Speaker 1>to every event. And if you develop a relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>your unconscious, it will respond and give you dreams. If

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<v Speaker 1>you pay no attention, it will stop trying. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a muscle you have to work. Yeah, that's one way. Prayer,

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<v Speaker 1>just asking, Just ask, like ask with an open heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I need help. I'm talking to my guides, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to my higher self. I'm talking to the archangels. Whoever

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk to. Ask and then write down

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<v Speaker 1>what they tell you. What you hear. Sometimes an answer

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<v Speaker 1>to a question will appear on the side of a truck,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, sometimes it will you'll hear a song.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the universe is always speaking to us. So ask. Dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Meditate is as transcendent experience as is possible. Meditation can

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<v Speaker 1>take you beyond space time without drugs. Without drugs, drugs

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<v Speaker 1>take you beyond space time too, but you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>very much control. So meditation takes you where you need

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<v Speaker 1>most to go. Because with meditation you get in contact

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<v Speaker 1>with source, so you can heal yourself. You can heal

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<v Speaker 1>your blueprint if your blueprint had any glitches.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounds like you do some meditation.

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<v Speaker 1>I meditate every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, how is that more powerful than sleep? If

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<v Speaker 2>we leave our body when we sleep and we're accessing

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<v Speaker 2>these other realms and bringing back data, what's the difference

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<v Speaker 2>between that and a meditative process.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not so very different, except that we don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>most of the experiences we have during sleep unless we

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<v Speaker 1>wake up while while we're still out of our body

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<v Speaker 1>and see our body across the room on the bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we realize, oh my god, I think I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>an island in the Mediterranean, but there's there's my body

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<v Speaker 1>over there. We don't And also meditation, uh, involves effort,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly the effort of trying not to well.

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<v Speaker 2>Just try to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's okay. That's okay if you go to sleep too,

615
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<v Speaker 1>because before and after sleep, going to sleep and waking

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<v Speaker 1>up you go through theda, and theda is like a

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<v Speaker 1>good you know, liminal space where healing can happen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>meditation involves intention. Intention and intention is how we create.

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<v Speaker 1>We create with intention, we intend, and then we attend.

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<v Speaker 1>We say that this world is important because sleep just

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<v Speaker 1>takes us and you know, there's not much of intention

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Yeah, I think the difference is intention, our

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<v Speaker 1>intention to contact because what we are seeking is seeking us,

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<v Speaker 1>and in meditation we are seeking. In sleep, you know

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<v Speaker 1>we're stressing.

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<v Speaker 2>I like what you just said. What we're seeking that

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<v Speaker 2>thing is seeking us. Yes, I like the term intention

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<v Speaker 2>because I think of the earth in this environment. This

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<v Speaker 2>reality as hardware, and intention is the software that you

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<v Speaker 2>access the hardware with. So when you are intending something,

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<v Speaker 2>you're actually putting a CD into machine, right right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But how effective is that? I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people don't are happy because they don't get immediate results.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes time for the reality to be manifest.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess right, well, when people are trying to manifest,

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<v Speaker 1>like okay, I want million dollars. The other part of

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<v Speaker 1>the intention and attention is that you have Your vibration

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<v Speaker 1>is part of what creates. So yes, you intend with

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<v Speaker 1>your thought and your mind, but you have to The

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<v Speaker 1>universe is reactive. If you smile at somebody that you're

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<v Speaker 1>passing in the street, many times they will smile back

642
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<v Speaker 1>at you because you're putting out a little love. You're saying, hey,

643
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<v Speaker 1>we're here together, you know where you're having this experience together.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not saying anything but you know you're just and

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<v Speaker 1>then they smile back, and it's divine. You may never

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<v Speaker 1>see that person again. So your energy is what they're

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<v Speaker 1>responding to the fact that you took that risk and

648
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<v Speaker 1>smiled at a stranger. So when you intend, your energy

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<v Speaker 1>kind of has to be in it, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>then things start to manifest faster.

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<v Speaker 2>I think your book provides an understanding of paranormal abilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Should we be cultivating our paranormal and we're using paranormal

653
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<v Speaker 2>because that's the psychological term for it, but our natural

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<v Speaker 2>gifts would be a more better statement. How do we

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<v Speaker 2>go about and give us some examples? I mean, being

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<v Speaker 2>aware as psychic, you know, understanding things is one. There's

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<v Speaker 2>so many types of parent normal. Working with the unseen. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>We've had people on my program who are talking about

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<v Speaker 2>working with relatives I have passed on and the big one

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<v Speaker 2>right now and I like you to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the question. Ancestral healing seems to be huge right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because this is bleeding through and I have to wonder,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the United States with so many different soul levels,

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<v Speaker 2>if this is the this healing is what's taking place

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<v Speaker 2>right now with the current administration.

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<v Speaker 1>God help us.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's seriously no, I mean I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of healing going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hopefully, Yes, I know, I know this. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can heal our ancestors. Yeah, we can heal back

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<v Speaker 1>through the generations. But it has to be done from

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<v Speaker 1>the unus mundus. It has to be done beyond space time.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be done in a meditative space where

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<v Speaker 1>you're outside of space time, that is three dimensional reality,

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<v Speaker 1>because you have to healing you. For that kind of healing,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to get outside of rational limited thinking. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you have to be in a meditative state

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a transcendent state, and then ancestral hearing

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<v Speaker 1>definitely can happen. But to go back to your prior question,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing we can all start with is our intuition.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have intuition. So if you decide, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to just be aware of my intuition, you

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<v Speaker 1>can even like say you're out to dinner with a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>You can say okay, because then you will feel how

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<v Speaker 1>it works. You can say, okay, I'm going to think

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<v Speaker 1>of an animal. Don't say anything to me, but just

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<v Speaker 1>leave it out there that I'm thinking of an animal

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<v Speaker 1>and when it comes to you, maybe after the entree comes,

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<v Speaker 1>just tell me one animal, so you don't try, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the person will tell you. On dessert, Oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>were thinking of a giraft when we were ordering, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was because you don't try, because it doesn't come

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<v Speaker 1>from will. It comes from just allowing yourself to get

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<v Speaker 1>it when you can without effort.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's an interesting example, just kind of. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like moving part of the body is.

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<v Speaker 1>Float to let it float when it wants to float.

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<v Speaker 1>In demand it. Don't look for it, you know, don't

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<v Speaker 1>try to figure it out with your rational mind because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not The answer is not in your rational mind.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to go to the transcendent space to get it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you will go there if you leave yourself alone,

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<v Speaker 1>So using your intuition, trying to listen to it, or

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<v Speaker 1>asking your intuition, like, look, I have to make this decision.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask for a dream tonight, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know it might take two or three nights to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But could could you just could you just give me

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of a sign, Just give me some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a sign. I don't care if it's on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of a truck a song that's the next song

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<v Speaker 1>on the playlist. Just give me a sign. Just start

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<v Speaker 1>to do things like that, your respect for your intuition

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<v Speaker 1>develops it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>People who work with their dreams do develop their intuition.

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<v Speaker 1>They also get cured of their insomnia. Really because well,

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00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:45.559
<v Speaker 1>any contact with the unconscious will help insomnia. People who

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00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>have insomnia are two to one sided. They're too much

719
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<v Speaker 1>in the rational world and not enough in the unconscious

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<v Speaker 1>realm beyond space time. But once you get in the

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<v Speaker 1>realm of the higher self capital us, you will sleep better.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return Charley

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<v Speaker 2>with my guest today, Susan Plunkett, presenting a new book

725
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<v Speaker 2>called Paranormal Perspectives. Will be right back. My guest today

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<v Speaker 2>is Susan Pluggett. She has written a new book called

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<v Speaker 2>Paranormal Perspective. This is a look at the different levels

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<v Speaker 2>of consciousness that is obtained through meditation as well as

729
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<v Speaker 2>paranormal activity. How do we go about using paranormal philosophy

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<v Speaker 2>to get what we want in life? That's not an

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<v Speaker 2>easy question, but maybe that's no.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you already answered it before when you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we use our intention. But I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you come from a place of love, for example, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's a Tara Brock who says

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<v Speaker 1>this or one of those people say, you know, may

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<v Speaker 1>all be may I, may all beings be safe, May

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<v Speaker 1>all beings be free, May I be safe, May I

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<v Speaker 1>be free? But may all beings be safe, may all

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<v Speaker 1>beings no peace? If you can come from that place

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<v Speaker 1>and then you intend what you want, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want it to go against the free will of anyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's kind of a psychic law that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea to limit anyone else's free will. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you come from a place of love, then your

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<v Speaker 1>intention just travels further.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. The Akashik records, the Akashak files, wherever

748
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<v Speaker 2>we want to call it. The Akahak level has been

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<v Speaker 2>in the news now for probably I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>a decade, more so in the last five or six years,

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<v Speaker 2>and some people are beginning to think that the real

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<v Speaker 2>geniuses of our society, that the Tesla's Einstein's, had access

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<v Speaker 2>to that realm. Do you or are you familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>the Akashyak records, And do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I think the Akashak records. I mean my first

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<v Speaker 1>contact with them was, you know, as a teenager reading

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<v Speaker 1>Edgar Casey. Yeah, because to do his healing, he would

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<v Speaker 1>travel to the Akashak. The way I understand the Akashak Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it is that area that realm beyond space time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where everything is known, where the great oneness, So we

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<v Speaker 1>can call it the Akashak records, that's what Casey called it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is that space where every intuition comes from,

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<v Speaker 1>where every invention comes from. Everything we have, from the

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<v Speaker 1>light bulb to the jet plane to whatever ao it

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<v Speaker 1>comes from that area. Yes, all those things come from

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<v Speaker 1>that area.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we know when we're there? And do you

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<v Speaker 2>have any suggestions on how someone can tap into it

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<v Speaker 2>and know that they're there?

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<v Speaker 1>Their best way is meditation. But you're there every night

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<v Speaker 1>in your dreams. You leave your body every night in

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<v Speaker 1>your dreams because your body doesn't go anywhere. You know,

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00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:24.559
<v Speaker 1>your body just stays wherever you leave it. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>your consciousness. Like when I was a little kid, my

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00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:31.599
<v Speaker 1>sister I was eleven, she was six. She said to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you travel with your intention. You don't will it, You

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<v Speaker 1>imagine it, and you intend it, and then you can

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<v Speaker 1>be anywhere. And then when you're there, you ask the

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<v Speaker 1>question that you want.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you're asking the question that you want, someone's

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<v Speaker 2>returning that question with an answer. Or is it like

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<v Speaker 2>an intuitive direction of where to go next?

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<v Speaker 1>Could be either It could be either It could be

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<v Speaker 1>your own higher self, it could be giving you an intuition,

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<v Speaker 1>or it could be someone else in the field. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we're all in the field together. Many people don't realize this,

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<v Speaker 1>but Carl Jung quantum physics and Vedanta five thousand year

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<v Speaker 1>old Hindu knowledge, for example in the Upanishads, particularly in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bagua Gita aspect, all share the same philosophy of oneness.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we reach that place of oneness, we're beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the limitations of the rational mind, which is narrow, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know orderly and all knowledge is possible.

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<v Speaker 2>So how would you say? What would you suggest a

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<v Speaker 2>person do who wants to who's perhaps thinking of and

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<v Speaker 2>increasing finance or wanting to get into a new job situation,

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<v Speaker 2>and they want to know something unique and they want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the Akashuk records to find out data

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<v Speaker 2>do they ask it ahead of time and say I

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<v Speaker 2>intend to get data from the Acashuk records through meditation,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the person has an aha moment or is

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<v Speaker 2>there something more direct.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's a good approach. I think if they meditate,

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00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:42.079
<v Speaker 1>if they pay, the answer can come in a dream. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the answer can come in an aha during meditation. Writing

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<v Speaker 1>is a good thing. Like I was instructed by the

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<v Speaker 1>arcs to write in the morning because they would give

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<v Speaker 1>me downloads in the night and they said they words

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<v Speaker 1>be written in the air, you just have to type

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<v Speaker 1>them or we I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only that, but I would write one word sometime, type

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<v Speaker 1>it and they would correct it and say, no, this word.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just the most powerful things we can do

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<v Speaker 1>are dream, meditate, and prayer. Anytime you get into that

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<v Speaker 1>liminal space fada, brain waves or deeper, there's certain sounds

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<v Speaker 1>that can help people. They're different hurts. I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>people have spoken to you about the hurts of healing,

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<v Speaker 1>the hurts of liminality. Yeah, getting into those this you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy those sounds on probably on Amazon and listening

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<v Speaker 1>to that music while you meditate and breathe Breathing can

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<v Speaker 1>also put you in an altered state. Deep breathing is

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<v Speaker 1>very healing and it activates the vagus nerve, which helps

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<v Speaker 1>your intuition. So breathing, meditating certain sounds, attention to your dreams. Prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>We all can do this, can pray to whoever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>I just pray to the Unus Mundus like the unified field.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're praying for what, Susan, you're praying for, just

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<v Speaker 2>manifestations of positivity and.

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<v Speaker 1>Well for me, I pray for May I know peace,

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<v Speaker 1>May all beings no peace, May all beings be free

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<v Speaker 1>from fear, particularly now because there's so much terror in

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<v Speaker 1>America that you know, it's just good to say, May

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<v Speaker 1>all beings be free from fear, you know, may I

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<v Speaker 1>be free from fear. May all being spree free for fear.

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<v Speaker 1>May all beings no love? Yeah, I know love. Those

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<v Speaker 1>all helped to put us in a transcendent space. You

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<v Speaker 1>just have to be careful walking around, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do these things in a safe, quiet space

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<v Speaker 1>and then make sure you fully back in your physical

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<v Speaker 1>body before you go out and try to cross the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Do you think our ancestors and I feel that

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<v Speaker 2>this is true, but I'm curious about your interests or

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<v Speaker 2>your idea about this. You think our ancestors were tapping

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<v Speaker 2>into the higher realms and bringing through evolutionary change in patterns.

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<v Speaker 1>Week ancestors like, all right, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know the previous generations.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think some of them are probably like now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But in general, I don't know whether Raw said this

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<v Speaker 1>or Manka said this. Monka was another my primary teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>disincarnate being that each generation is kind of more full

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<v Speaker 1>of light right now because the Earth is hopefully ascending

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<v Speaker 1>fully to the fourth dimension, which is a non dualistic dimension,

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<v Speaker 1>because the third dimension right and wrong, eye and low,

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<v Speaker 1>rich and poor, old and young, all the dualalities cause

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pain in the third dimension. So as

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<v Speaker 1>we move more into the fourth dimension, there will be

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<v Speaker 1>more babies born who are more fourth dimensional, who can

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<v Speaker 1>hold more light and are less dualistic, more loving. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that might have I don't even know where I

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01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.679
<v Speaker 1>thought that Raw or Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned when you were at Berkeley Second Institute that

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<v Speaker 2>you had a I guess you could call it some

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01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:17.280
<v Speaker 2>form of possession that was released. Do you think there's

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<v Speaker 2>dimensional beings that are demonic, that are kind of shifting

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<v Speaker 2>things or trying to imprison people in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>they are unaware.

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<v Speaker 1>Of, that the people are unaware of. Yeah, yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>some cases, yeah, there are because all things are possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So evil is real and goodness is real, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are probably some people who are possessed. There are other

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<v Speaker 1>people who have chosen the path of service only to self.

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<v Speaker 1>Raw makes this very clear. Each of us chooses service

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<v Speaker 1>to others or service to self. You can travel very

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<v Speaker 1>far and become very powerful Genghis Khan to wit on

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<v Speaker 1>the dark path service to self, where you advance on

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<v Speaker 1>the dark path by harming others, by taking control of others,

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01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:22.679
<v Speaker 1>and the ultimate control to take of another is to

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01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:27.440
<v Speaker 1>kill them. Yeah, so you get very powerful. After the

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<v Speaker 1>six dimension, there's no way forward beyond Everyone jumps onto

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01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the path of the path of light, the path of

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01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:42.960
<v Speaker 1>service to others. Now, nobody's probably one hundred percent service

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01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:46.639
<v Speaker 1>to others, but if you're more than fifty five percent

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01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:52.239
<v Speaker 1>service to others, you're on the path of service to others.

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<v Speaker 1>And we all get selfish because the way we're designed,

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01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:57.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have this eternal self, we have this

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<v Speaker 1>human self, So sometimes we're selfish. We take the biggest

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01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:07.880
<v Speaker 1>piece of cake. But sometimes we don't. Sometimes we give

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<v Speaker 1>our last cigarette to the homeless guy, whatever it is,

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01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, yeah, So I think there are people

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<v Speaker 1>on earth who are on the path of service to self,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can see them. You can see them in politics,

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01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:30.639
<v Speaker 1>you can see them in government. You know, you can

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01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:33.599
<v Speaker 1>see them the bib net and Yahoo's of the world,

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01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:37.119
<v Speaker 1>and you can see them. You know, we don't have

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01:05:37.159 --> 01:05:40.760
<v Speaker 1>to be mother Teresa, but we can just be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying trying to care about others. Those who care nothing

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01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:52.039
<v Speaker 1>about others, they're probably on the path of service, and

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01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:57.960
<v Speaker 1>that's okay. That's love. Also, this is a hard one.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you're loving only yourself, it's still love. It's

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01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 1>hard to accept. That's why we have to accept people

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01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:12.800
<v Speaker 1>where they are. Eventually everyone goes back to the path

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01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:18.000
<v Speaker 1>of service to all because ultimate reality, the one is

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01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:26.760
<v Speaker 1>we are all one being, one mind, divine mind. Young

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01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:34.800
<v Speaker 1>was a honest He said that he was a monist oneself.

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<v Speaker 1>Many manifestations. We're each a manifestation of one self.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first I guess in a series of

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01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:50.440
<v Speaker 2>paranormal perspectives. Is what's up for the next book?

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<v Speaker 1>The next book is also out. It's by a paranormal

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01:06:55.599 --> 01:07:01.599
<v Speaker 1>researcher or in colloquial terms, a ghost hunter. And it

909
01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:07.039
<v Speaker 1>is called One Big Box of Paranormal Tricks. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're into that sort of thing. He's an English guy

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01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:21.199
<v Speaker 1>and he's his name is John Fraser. And uh. Also Gavin,

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<v Speaker 1>who thought of the series, is writing a book on

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<v Speaker 1>attachments schools. This is called Hauntings, Attachments and Gorules, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is Gavin Davies.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so these are all going to be published by six.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're all going to be part of this series

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01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:45.719
<v Speaker 1>six books. Yeah, yeah, by six books. Okay, the One

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<v Speaker 1>Big Box of Paranormal Tricks is out, but the others

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<v Speaker 1>are coming. Okay, so mine, the first two are out Mine,

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<v Speaker 1>John Fraser's.

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<v Speaker 2>And and who did just who did you write this

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<v Speaker 2>book for? Who do you think is your audience? Uh?

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01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Anybody who's interested in developing their own paranormal abilities, or

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01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:18.239
<v Speaker 1>anybody that's had something that's scared them they saw a ghost, Ah,

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01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:24.800
<v Speaker 1>anybody who's interested in young Those would be the people.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Hey, real pleasure having you on the program. For

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<v Speaker 2>those of you who want to know more about Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>she can go to her website, which is Susan Plunket

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<v Speaker 2>P l U n K E T dot com. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>where are they going to find on your website?

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna find, Oh, I have a blog on there

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<v Speaker 1>where I talk about some paranormal stuff. And they'll just

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<v Speaker 1>see the books I've written. They'll see, uh, my theories

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<v Speaker 1>as a psychologist, what I the way I work. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they'll find.

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<v Speaker 2>And the last thing I want to mention is before

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<v Speaker 2>we started, you said that they're changing the title of

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<v Speaker 2>your book. So we want people to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Amazon and right now the title is which

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<v Speaker 2>is changing. It's called a Youngian Understanding of Transcendent Experiences,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's changing, so perhaps look for the Paranormal perspectives. Yeah, title,

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01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:25.680
<v Speaker 2>that might be the way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the new title will be the Paranormal Experiences of

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<v Speaker 1>a Youngian Psychologist. Sorry confusion, but they just found this out,

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<v Speaker 1>which is good because the title was terrible. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible title. But hopefully the new title lets everyone

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<v Speaker 1>know it's a list of paranormal experiences I.

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<v Speaker 2>Had exactly, and it's fun because you're, you know, claiming

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<v Speaker 2>a trained psychologist. Uh, and these are heavy influences on

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<v Speaker 2>your life and I'm sure on your practice as well.

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01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, nobody comes to me for a band aid.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Susan, much success on this book. Thank you and

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01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:13.399
<v Speaker 2>a pleasure speaking with you.

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<v Speaker 1>A pleasure speaking with you too.

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<v Speaker 2>I meant to mention to you listeners that the book

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<v Speaker 2>came out in October of last year, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>they're changing the title. The title is Paranormal Perspectives, a

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<v Speaker 2>Youngian Understanding of Transcendent Experiences. They're changing the title, so

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<v Speaker 2>look for Paranormal Perspectives Susan Plunkett P l U N

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01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:49.399
<v Speaker 2>K E T. And it should still be there, but

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<v Speaker 2>they are going to update the title. That's not a

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<v Speaker 2>great title for that book. So that was interesting to have.

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<v Speaker 2>That was fun to have her on the program. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to mention we have officially launched the new

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel for Earth Ancients. Destiny is going to take

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<v Speaker 2>another few months to launch, but it's gonna have its

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<v Speaker 2>own channel. But if you've been a fan of Earth

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<v Speaker 2>Ancients and you've wanted it to be on YouTube, there

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<v Speaker 2>you go type in Earth Ancients and check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. We're slowly building it back up. It hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been up for over a year and a half and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to thank Faith Soul Parves, who is the

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<v Speaker 2>new team leader of that project. The beauty of YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>is that we can show a lot of diagrams. You

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<v Speaker 2>can see yours truly as well as people like Graham Hancock, Randall, Carlson,

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<v Speaker 2>all the favorites, all the A listers, all everybody will

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<v Speaker 2>be eventually placed back on that channel. We're taking it slow,

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<v Speaker 2>we're building the program. All you gotta do is just

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<v Speaker 2>call it Earth Ancients on Facebook. You'll see it there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's shorts, there's a long version, and many of them

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<v Speaker 2>have the graphics that we talk about and feature on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are spreading our wings with this new YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Please feel free to check it out and see yours

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<v Speaker 2>Trulyia with all the guests that we have each week,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd appreciate it if you would let me know what

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<v Speaker 2>you think. Send me an email at Earth Ancients, the

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<v Speaker 2>number four, the letter you at Gmail, and right back

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<v Speaker 2>to me and say, hey, this is great, this isn't great.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking me a while to find the perfect ingredients, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to have good people and facel is wonderful and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to working with him and his team.

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<v Speaker 2>So Earth Ancients is now a channel on YouTube and

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<v Speaker 2>to go there, just go to Earth Ancients at YouTube. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it for this program.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to think.

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<v Speaker 2>My guest today Susan Plunkett, coming to us from New York.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, the team of Gaiel, tour Mark Foster and

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<v Speaker 2>Facial Parves. You guys rock all right, take care of

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<v Speaker 2>you well and we will talk to you next time.