Speaker 1: All right, joining us now is somebody who's no stranger
Speaker 1: to this show. Eric Peters. Always great to have Eric on.
Speaker 1: I had him on, Well, I didn't have him on,
Speaker 1: I had his article on. I'm just saying as having
Speaker 1: Eric on talking about what was going on in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: he and I are of the same mind all these
Speaker 1: different things, and so I wanted to get him on
Speaker 1: to talk about what's going on with cars as well
Speaker 1: as what's going on with the insanity in this country
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, Eric.
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, David, But I do I get him medal?
Speaker 3: If you don't give me a medal, there's going to
Speaker 3: be repercussions. I'm not fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody put together a clip of him saying, we're
Speaker 1: not going to have men taking women's medals, you know
Speaker 1: about the training stuff, right, and then they had a
Speaker 1: clip of him saying, yeah, she gave me a peace prize.
Speaker 1: Uh so it truly is amazing, But it was also
Speaker 1: the intimidation that you he's able to put on people
Speaker 1: foreign and domestic. You know, she has to give him
Speaker 1: this peace prize because if she doesn't, she's going to
Speaker 1: be in a bad side. Who knows what he'll do.
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of interesting that they continue to
Speaker 1: refuse to say that the sky they kidnapped is actually
Speaker 1: the head of state. They say he's not legitimate. They
Speaker 1: had an election and he didn't win the election, and
Speaker 1: so it's like, okay, well, you know, then you've got
Speaker 1: a couple of people that you got in mind that
Speaker 1: won the election. Right, Machado was ahead in the voting,
Speaker 1: and so she got taken away. She wasn't allowed to
Speaker 1: stand in the election, but another person, Gonzalez was, And
Speaker 1: so you would think that if they wanted to support
Speaker 1: quote unquote democracy, that they would put one of the
Speaker 1: two of them in. But instead they're going to have
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio b viceroy.
Speaker 2: I tell you something.
Speaker 3: They don't seem to have a problem with the dictator
Speaker 3: of Ukraine. You know, there's this guy who canceled elections
Speaker 3: and continues to be on the receiving end of vast
Speaker 3: amounts of American material, now indirectly, you know, through our
Speaker 3: proxies in Western Europe. But nonetheless, the you know, the
Speaker 3: incongruity of it, the cognitive dissonance of it is just
Speaker 3: it's something told. It's huge, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It is the corruption. And you know it's funny even
Speaker 1: Bill Gates.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: We had a Globe play that Bill Gates saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know, Ukraine has been understood by by to be
Speaker 1: the most corrupt country on earth. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: why do you think our politicians are handling the money
Speaker 1: because they can get it back in the back door.
Speaker 2: That's a real admission, I think.
Speaker 3: Sure. And you know, the precedents that are being set
Speaker 3: right now are going to come back to bite us,
Speaker 3: I think. And that's one of the most disturbing things
Speaker 3: about everything that's going on with regard to what's been
Speaker 3: happening in Minnesota. A lot of these these conservatives and
Speaker 3: people who are red hat people or are cheering it on,
Speaker 3: and I wonder to myself how it is that they
Speaker 3: can believe that the police state that they're cheering isn't
Speaker 3: going to end up police them.
Speaker 2: Already happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had this back in January sixth, all
Speaker 1: the January six stuff, right, We've had a lot of
Speaker 1: people shut up and they were peacefully protesting. You had
Speaker 1: some people got violent, and it's like, okay, fine, you
Speaker 1: can punish those people. But even for everybody, even violent people,
Speaker 1: the punishment was extreme, unusual and not valid because of that.
Speaker 1: But then they had other people who were just there,
Speaker 1: they were treated like they were violent, and you had
Speaker 1: a woman who was shot in the head when the
Speaker 1: police officer was not threatened and got away with it.
Speaker 2: But you know, the.
Speaker 1: Conservatives who are outraged about that before are now cheering
Speaker 1: it when it's done against the people that they hate.
Speaker 1: That's the amazing thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, and it's going to make it very
Speaker 3: difficult for me to have much sympathy for them get
Speaker 3: kicked down the next time around. Yes, wow, Maybe they
Speaker 3: think that Trump is going to be you know, l
Speaker 3: hef a dictator in perpetuity. But the man's almost eighty
Speaker 3: years old. That's you know, I supposed to spend the midterms,
Speaker 3: and I suppose that, you know, we could end up
Speaker 3: having an American Brezhnev. Uh, you know, until until he's ninety.
Speaker 1: Maybe, well, you know what I mean. He does have
Speaker 1: amazing healing capabilities. You got shot in the air and
Speaker 1: there's no visible sign of it. Uh, Either then or
Speaker 1: now here's a that.
Speaker 3: I've been entertaining as my mouth out in the garage,
Speaker 3: wrenching on my trans am. I think to myself, this
Speaker 3: is so gratuitous. The only explanation that makes any sense
Speaker 3: to me is that it's purposeful, Like he's differently deliberately
Speaker 3: wanting to inflame passions to trigger an event so that
Speaker 3: then he can claim that there's a necessity for declaring
Speaker 3: the Insurrection Act, martial law, whatever it is, getting getting
Speaker 3: everything so chaotic that he can assume, you know, actual
Speaker 3: overt dictatorial powers. He's already the de facto dictator in
Speaker 3: a lot of ways. You know, he's just declaring anything
Speaker 3: he does, it's an executive order. Everything's an emergency. Right.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, literally, anything that he you knowever he wants
Speaker 3: to do something, it's an emergency.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: And is uh And that is exactly my take it.
Speaker 1: We always see things exactly like Eric.
Speaker 2: You know, I was.
Speaker 1: I just covered Wayne Allen Root who talked about this.
Speaker 1: He had some his memo to Trump. He had like
Speaker 1: five or six things he wanted to do. One of
Speaker 1: them was to rename Ice nice because that should fix it, right.
Speaker 1: But the other thing he said, he said, and I
Speaker 1: said this from the very beginning ninety days ago. And
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I said the same thing as well,
Speaker 1: don't go to the places where you're going to have
Speaker 1: known conflict. There's if you want to deport people here
Speaker 1: hell illegally, you could easily go to the Republican states
Speaker 1: and they would help you to do that. And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that they could do that would
Speaker 1: not be confrontational. You know, if you're going to have
Speaker 1: a situation where governors and attorneys general doubled down on
Speaker 1: the massive billions of dollars of fraud, like half of
Speaker 1: the amount of money that they were spending on daycare
Speaker 1: and food issues was fraudulent in Minnesota, but you know
Speaker 1: they want to protect those people. I want to say
Speaker 1: that you're not going to investigate them, actually said the
Speaker 1: quiet part out loud in Washington State. And so if
Speaker 1: they're going to aid in a bed that kind of
Speaker 1: welfare fraud, you know, there's other things that you could
Speaker 1: do to the leaders. But instead what they want to do,
Speaker 1: they want to go door to door. They want to
Speaker 1: get in people's faces, they want to challenge them, to
Speaker 1: push them. There was one clip that I played where
Speaker 1: people had set up a little memorial to the woman
Speaker 1: who was shot Rene Good, and there was a big
Speaker 1: fat cop and he comes over and he starts kicking
Speaker 1: the stuff and the guy says, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know, and this is a memorial And the guy
Speaker 1: walks over to him, gets in his face and keeps walking,
Speaker 1: making him back up and goes back up, back up,
Speaker 1: back up. The guy kept backing up, and he kept
Speaker 1: telling him back up, back up, And he's trying to
Speaker 1: get the guy to shove him so that he could
Speaker 1: get violent with a guy because now he's in threat
Speaker 1: for his life because the guy resisted this stuff, right,
Speaker 1: he resisted his bullying. And so that is basically the
Speaker 1: Trump administration's goal, I think in a nutshell. And what
Speaker 1: Wayne Allen Rude, as a cheerleader for Trump, didn't see
Speaker 1: as a fact that Trump wants the conflict. I mean,
Speaker 1: he thrives on this professional wrestling thing. That is his gimmick,
Speaker 1: that's his calling card, is conflict. He wants conflict everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole thing is so disingenuous. Here's some math.
Speaker 3: They claim. The administration claims something around the order of
Speaker 3: seventy five thousand of these illegals have been rounded up
Speaker 3: and deported thus far, So one year in seventy five thousand. Okay,
Speaker 3: so if we factor that out over the remaining three
Speaker 3: years of Trump's presidence now squat about three hundred thousand people.
Speaker 3: Now on the low end, we're told that roughly ten
Speaker 3: million illegal aliens have come into the country over the
Speaker 3: course of the Biden second term. So it's a rounding error.
Speaker 3: It has no meaning. You know, if they round up
Speaker 3: into port three hundred thousand of these people, it means nothing,
Speaker 3: and nothing fundamentally changes. So why are they doing it?
Speaker 3: And I believe that the reason that they're doing it,
Speaker 3: among other things, is to normalize people, normalize the presence
Speaker 3: of military uhla enforcers on American streets and getting Americans
Speaker 3: habituated to seeing people literally grabbed. And I'm not you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not defending illegal immigration. I'm saying that there's something
Speaker 3: unsettling about seeing people grabbed and stuffed into the back
Speaker 3: of unmarked vehicles. Yeah, and taken away from you know,
Speaker 3: who knows what what what? You know, me anybody? That
Speaker 3: could happen to anybody, And that's just the point. It's
Speaker 3: going to happen to everybody if this is normalized. We've
Speaker 3: got used to as a culture having to, you know,
Speaker 3: stand there with our legs spread at the airport and
Speaker 3: let some government goon touch us and go through our things,
Speaker 3: you know, in the name of protecting us from the terrorists.
Speaker 3: This is exactly of a piece. It's the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's it's just getting Americans used to something, and once
Speaker 3: they're used to it, then it will be expanded.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: That's why I say to people, say, be very wary
Speaker 1: when the government that has created both parties have created
Speaker 1: a problem, you know, like the open border immigration thing.
Speaker 1: And I said, for the longest time, it's the welfare magnet. Stupid.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not a wall, it's not anything else.
Speaker 1: Just stop paying people who come here to live for free.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: The welfare system is bad enough. We don't need to
Speaker 1: extend it to the entire world. But you know, when
Speaker 1: the government creates a problem and let's at fester for
Speaker 1: a long time and then they come in with some
Speaker 1: authoritarian solution, you know, always be aware. I mean, that
Speaker 1: is the biggest talbot's out there, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Absolutely And as you say, if they were, if they
Speaker 3: were being genuine about this, the easiest way to solve
Speaker 3: the problem is to cut off the benefits to people
Speaker 3: who want American citizens and not entitled to them. You
Speaker 3: and I we go to the pharmacy to get over
Speaker 3: the counter coff serve and we have to present idea.
Speaker 3: American citizens have to present id for all sorts of things.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right.
Speaker 3: So if somebody applies for government benefits, they should have
Speaker 3: to produce idea establishing that they are minimally legal residents,
Speaker 3: if not citizens, in order to access these benefits. And
Speaker 3: if they can't do that, no benefits, you know, and
Speaker 3: then you get rid of most of the problem. And
Speaker 3: another thing you could do is do something about these
Speaker 3: big corporate employers that hire these illegals. Sanctions, make them
Speaker 3: pay for the local services that you know that are
Speaker 3: incurring costs because of all the illegals find them Financially.
Speaker 3: You don't have to turn America into a police state.
Speaker 3: You don't have to have body armored automatic weapons holding
Speaker 3: soldiers on streets. It's very simple. Just stop the as
Speaker 3: you say, stop the incentivizing, stop offering free things. The
Speaker 3: people who are here want to work, you know, the
Speaker 3: productive ones. I don't have an issue with that. One
Speaker 3: of my oldest friends is a guy who you know,
Speaker 3: has some of these guys working for him. And they
Speaker 3: work hard. I don't mind those guys. They're not taking
Speaker 3: money out of my pocket. You know, I don't like
Speaker 3: I don't like the leeches and the parasites, and most
Speaker 3: people don't. And it's reasonable to not like that. But
Speaker 3: that's what they're manipulating us with. That's what they're using
Speaker 3: against us to get us to go along with this
Speaker 3: burgeoning police state.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have called Donald Trump precedent Trump for this
Speaker 1: time because that seems to me why his role is,
Speaker 1: let's set a precedent and we're going to take the
Speaker 1: gun and the due process later type of thing. And
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about them arresting innocent people. I
Speaker 1: talked about the I'm sure you saw the situation of
Speaker 1: the Hamong guy. I think I'm pronouncing that correctly. Hmong.
Speaker 1: They're from Laos and they took this fifty six year
Speaker 1: old grandfather. Ten to fifteen guys crashed through the house
Speaker 1: drug rade style. Okay, this is something straight out I'm
Speaker 1: sure you're familiar with Brazil, done by Terry Gunn. This
Speaker 1: is straight out of Brazil, right, And so they're looking
Speaker 1: for buddle, but they go after tuttle, right, and they
Speaker 1: kicked the door down. They grabbed this guy. He's sitting
Speaker 1: in his living room. He's in shorts with no shirt.
Speaker 1: They drag him out in the ten degree weather wearing
Speaker 1: just crocs his shorts, and he grabbed the blanket from
Speaker 1: his five year old grandson before they took him outside.
Speaker 1: And that's it, you know, that kind of harassment that
Speaker 1: is happening. He was the wrong guy. He was not
Speaker 1: the guy they were looking for. They put him in
Speaker 1: the car, They drive him around for an hour. He
Speaker 1: keeps telling him I'm an American citizens, been for over
Speaker 1: thirty some odd years. He's never had any legal issues
Speaker 1: with anything. And so after they finally check him out,
Speaker 1: they bring him back and just dump him off like
Speaker 1: nothing ever happened. Right, And this is exactly what Trump
Speaker 1: was talking about doing with guns. Take the gun and
Speaker 1: do the due process. Now they're going to grab the
Speaker 1: man and do the due process later. It's like, why
Speaker 1: don't you do an investigation, Why don't you get a
Speaker 1: search warrant, Why don't you know who you're coming after?
Speaker 1: But what they did was they backfilled all this stuff
Speaker 1: with lies from Christie Omes department. They had her secretary
Speaker 1: come out and say that well, they were looking for
Speaker 1: two guys who were convicted sexual predators that were there
Speaker 1: at that address. And the family came out and said, no,
Speaker 1: we don't know anybody. We don't know who those guys are.
Speaker 1: They've never lived here, we don't know them at all.
Speaker 1: And our guy doesn't have any issues with it. And
Speaker 1: they put out the pictures of these guys and they're
Speaker 1: young men. This guy is fifty six years old. There's
Speaker 1: absolutely no way that you would mistake this guy for
Speaker 1: those guys. Everything that they do, Eric is a lie
Speaker 1: to start with it. It's just like Christine home and that
Speaker 1: Renee Good shooting. The first thing she says, well, they
Speaker 1: were stuck in the snow and they were attacked by
Speaker 1: a car, and it's like, none of that is true.
Speaker 3: Right, everything has been reversed. It used to be that
Speaker 3: there was the presumption of innocence and that it was
Speaker 3: understood that it was necessary that the government hobbled to
Speaker 3: some degree in terms of what it does to people
Speaker 3: in order to protect people. You know, now the impetus
Speaker 3: as well. Everybody's guilty of something, and you know it's
Speaker 3: up to the person who is accosted to establish that
Speaker 3: they aren't guilty, and this is not This is something
Speaker 3: that has been systematically imposed over a long period of time.
Speaker 3: I've been ranting for decades now about these sobriety checkpoints.
Speaker 3: No longer is it a case of you have given
Speaker 3: a cop probable cause to suspect that you might be
Speaker 3: drunk driving because you're you know, you're you're driving erradically,
Speaker 3: let's say you're wandering public. Instead, they just set up
Speaker 3: these drag nets where everybody just happens to be on
Speaker 3: that road has given zero probable calls. They have to
Speaker 3: prove to the satisfaction of the cop that they're not drunk.
Speaker 1: And how do you approve it? In Texas they had
Speaker 1: involuntary blood draws. I mean, these are people going to
Speaker 1: pull you over and they're going to uh strap you
Speaker 1: down if you don't want to do it, and take
Speaker 1: blood out of you to prove that you're not drunk.
Speaker 2: It's like that they.
Speaker 3: Expect people to form roadside gymnastics. Most people aren't athletes
Speaker 3: and gymnasts. So you know you're pulling, You're out of
Speaker 3: your car with a light shining in your face, and
Speaker 3: you're supposed to stand on one leg and recite the
Speaker 3: alphabet backwards, and you know, if you if they set
Speaker 3: it up something guaranteed, you're gonna you know, you're gonna
Speaker 3: you're going to maybe waivered a little bit. And then
Speaker 3: as you say, that becomes the pretext for dragging you
Speaker 3: to the hospital and a forced blood draw. On all
Speaker 3: of this stuff, but all is a complete vitiation of
Speaker 3: the of the Fourth Amendment. The Fourth Amendment says, you
Speaker 3: know that you're not supposed to be subjected to search
Speaker 3: as absent probable cause or a warrant issue by a judge.
Speaker 3: Nobody cares about that anymore.
Speaker 2: That's right. They were to do that to me since
Speaker 2: my stroke, I would fail.
Speaker 1: Stand on one leg and yeah, whistle Dixie.
Speaker 2: You know it's like I can't do that anymore. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's insane.
Speaker 1: But you got a an article about a tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about that. The background of this story
Speaker 1: where there was a guy who didn't have a tag
Speaker 1: on his motorcycle.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is really an appalling story. Again, it's
Speaker 3: another example of the escalation that ensues over these trivial,
Speaker 3: batantic no harm involved in anybody of fences. There's a
Speaker 3: guy out riding his motorcycle he's got his girlfriend or
Speaker 3: wife on the back of the bike, and apparently he
Speaker 3: didn't have a plate or a valid plate on the bike,
Speaker 3: and so you know, a coppy rolls in behind him
Speaker 3: and lights him up and he's going to pull him over. Now,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not suggesting that it was right of
Speaker 3: the guy to take off, but I understand. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: he's potentially facing you know, having to pay hundreds of
Speaker 3: dollars in fines, maybe getting his bike seats what. You know,
Speaker 3: he wasn't speeding or doing anything out riding his bike anyway.
Speaker 3: So he takes off in a pursuit ensues, he ends
Speaker 3: up wrecking and dying. He and his passenger are both killed.
Speaker 3: They lose control in a corner and that's it over
Speaker 3: over this sort of nonsense I speak chase. And an
Speaker 3: additional facet of it is that in the course of
Speaker 3: pursuing this guy, the cop is driving with extraordinary recklessness
Speaker 3: on these back country roads, you know, taking corners in
Speaker 3: the opposite lane or halfway in the opposite lane, blind corners.
Speaker 3: You know. It looks to me to have been eighty
Speaker 3: ninety one hundred miles an hour on a road with
Speaker 3: a thirty five mile an hour speed limit. At one point,
Speaker 3: he barrows through this kind of a small town looking thing,
Speaker 3: and you could just imagine if somebody's walking across the
Speaker 3: street or you know, they're pulling out from a side
Speaker 3: road and boom, you know, there's a catastrophic wreck, all
Speaker 3: because this guy just had to catch that guy you
Speaker 3: know on the bike, had to get him for you know,
Speaker 3: affronting the authority of the state because he wasn't displaying
Speaker 3: his proper ear tag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, And you know that really does reflect
Speaker 1: back on this renee Good thing as well, because you
Speaker 1: look at the situation that's there and I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on. It doesn't appear from the videos that
Speaker 1: were taken and from the cops own video, it doesn't
Speaker 1: appear like she's really even panicked or trying to flee.
Speaker 1: There were people that, you know, one person said get
Speaker 1: out of here, the other one says, get out of
Speaker 1: your car, So there was a little bit of perhaps
Speaker 1: confusion on that part. But even if she was trying
Speaker 1: to just drive off, there wasn't anything that looked like
Speaker 1: she was trying to you know, she was moving pretty slowly,
Speaker 1: and the fact is that she backs up and then
Speaker 1: turns her wheel immediately. And I looked at that and
Speaker 1: it's like all these people saying, well, that shows that
Speaker 1: she's trying to run him over. It's like, no, she's
Speaker 1: turning her wheel away from him. It's like, have you
Speaker 1: ever driven a car now this works a three point turn?
Speaker 1: Do you understand how that operates? And you can see
Speaker 1: that's what she's doing there. And then you can see
Speaker 1: from the cops perspective of his own footage that he
Speaker 1: rushes forward and still he doesn't get hit. And so
Speaker 1: I think that that was really what was happening with it.
Speaker 1: But you know, in terms of the high speed chases,
Speaker 1: a lot of police departments I said, we're not going
Speaker 1: to do that because it puts a lot of people's
Speaker 1: lives at risk. There are a lot of police departments
Speaker 1: that have said since the early nineties, the New York
Speaker 1: Police Department is one of them, that we're not going
Speaker 1: to fire into a car if somebody doesn't have some
Speaker 1: kind of weapon that they are firing. You know, we're
Speaker 1: not going to shoot into a car just to stop
Speaker 1: the car, because number one, you may not hit it.
Speaker 1: You might not you know, hit that moving target, and
Speaker 1: you might hit other people, including other cops that are there, right,
Speaker 1: and then if you do hit the person, what you
Speaker 1: wind up with is an unguided missile. Right, the driver
Speaker 1: is not driving anymore, the might mash down on the accelerator,
Speaker 1: which we saw a little bit of what happened with that,
Speaker 1: and so all of that makes absolutely no sense. When
Speaker 1: I was living in Houston when Karen and I first
Speaker 1: got married, there was a situation where they had these
Speaker 1: really huge flyovers and there was a motorcycle cop who
Speaker 1: pulled over a car and pull them over like at
Speaker 1: the top of this large arg flyover on the curve.
Speaker 1: And as he's there writing this ticket that is so important,
Speaker 1: this gasoline fuel tanker comes along and hits them and
Speaker 1: everybody died, Okay, the cop, the people that were getting
Speaker 1: the ticket, the person who's driving the truck. Everybody dies
Speaker 1: in this fiery crash and it burned down the concrete
Speaker 1: flyover that was there, so intense it was amazing to
Speaker 1: see what happened. All that was over a ticket, you know,
Speaker 1: which is where this goes back a small a small thing,
Speaker 1: and they escalated to that extent, to a deadly extent
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis.
Speaker 3: I think one of the most egregious aspects of that
Speaker 3: situation was that clearly this woman wasn't some sort of
Speaker 3: gun toting felon that just dropped a bank, right, you know,
Speaker 3: she had been haranguing the Ice people. They had her plate.
Speaker 3: Why not why not just go to her house later
Speaker 3: they knew who she was, give her a ticket for
Speaker 3: obstruction or whatever, you know, whatever charge they want to
Speaker 3: give her. Fine, it wasn't necessary to escalate it to
Speaker 3: the degree that they I see this protextual murder. Frankly,
Speaker 3: I think that that cop deliberately put himself in a
Speaker 3: position where he knew he could get bumped by the fender,
Speaker 3: you know, and at that point he has the justification
Speaker 3: to unload on her, which is just what he did.
Speaker 3: I agree, easily stepped out of the way, just let
Speaker 3: her go whatever. It's just some lady in a car
Speaker 3: who was obnoxious to us. You know, we can give
Speaker 3: her a ticket later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And in that context, I see this entire operation
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis just like that, except it's Trump who's doing
Speaker 1: the provocative. In your face, come on, you know, take
Speaker 1: a swing at me and let's see what happens. Right,
Speaker 1: the people out there saying fafo. You know, that's what
Speaker 1: they want. They want to provoke that. And so he's
Speaker 1: not just setting precedents. He's out there deliberately provoking things
Speaker 1: to set precedents. He doesn't have an emergency, he wants
Speaker 1: to create one.
Speaker 3: An adult might have said something to the effective, you know,
Speaker 3: this is a horrible tragedy and we're sorry that things
Speaker 3: spiraled out of control the way that they did. Yeah,
Speaker 3: said that there's this this this callousness in the way
Speaker 3: that he responds to these sorts of things. YEA almost
Speaker 3: believe you know, she deserved it. You know, it's a
Speaker 3: good thing that an American citizen was shot dead in
Speaker 3: the street like that.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing that really ticked me off was the
Speaker 1: response of the MAGA influencers that are out there that
Speaker 1: are trying to make an excuse for all this stuff.
Speaker 1: They were even worse than Trump and Christy Nome and
Speaker 1: jd Vance and all these other people who are commenting
Speaker 1: on it. One guy had a podcast I don't remember
Speaker 1: his name. I played the clip and he said, here's
Speaker 1: what you need to remember. Hands up, show your hands,
Speaker 1: obey commands. It's like, what are you talking about Is
Speaker 1: this a police state that you're talking about where I
Speaker 1: have to always obey the commands of the police and
Speaker 1: show my hands, but they have to come up with
Speaker 1: these little juvenile rhymes like clicket or ticket, you know,
Speaker 1: so show hands, obey commands, and it's like that really
Speaker 1: set me off.
Speaker 3: I have read and I have not been able to
Speaker 3: confirm this. I think it's true that a lot of
Speaker 3: police departments send cops over to Israel to be trained
Speaker 3: by the IDF in these in these immediate submission tactics
Speaker 3: that are are imposed upon the Palestinians over there were
Speaker 3: even the slightest questioning or sign of resistance, you know,
Speaker 3: it brings down an extreme response. I can remember when
Speaker 3: I was in college back in the eighties, when I'd
Speaker 3: get pulled over for speeding. It was routine to get
Speaker 3: out of the car and walk over the cop. And
Speaker 3: you know, yeah that was common. Believer, I get in
Speaker 3: the car.
Speaker 2: Now it's like, yeah, yeah, now if you step.
Speaker 3: If I were to get out of my car, you know,
Speaker 3: it's much older me now, you know, to get out
Speaker 3: of the car and the guy would probably draw a
Speaker 3: gun and say scream at me and get on the ground.
Speaker 3: Get on the ground now.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I know it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look at how long is it before
Speaker 1: we have the situation of the IDF where they've got
Speaker 1: this yellow line somewhere in Gaza and people don't even
Speaker 1: necessarily see it. But if you cross that yellow line,
Speaker 1: we perceive you as a threat.
Speaker 2: And now we have.
Speaker 1: The ability and the government will stand behind us, we
Speaker 1: can kill you right there on the spot because we
Speaker 1: felt threatened because you crossed that yellow line that you
Speaker 1: didn't even see.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes a honest respect for life, and that again,
Speaker 3: the callousness and the brutality is something that should be
Speaker 3: concerning to everybody. This thing starts to metastasize. You get
Speaker 3: into a point where life is cheap, you know, and
Speaker 3: you end up liking these these hard for the world
Speaker 3: countries where people just you know, you see a dead
Speaker 3: body in the streets, some guy just got shot, and
Speaker 3: everybody just keeps on walking. It becomes commonplace, it becomes
Speaker 3: nothing to even be to remark about.
Speaker 1: Well again, and you look at what President Trump is
Speaker 1: doing when he kidnapped Maduro. The funniest take on all
Speaker 1: that was John Stewart, who said, we imported this guy.
Speaker 2: We didn't deport him, we imported him.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: But you know when when you look at the kidnapping Maduro,
Speaker 1: immediately you had people saying, well, you know, we should
Speaker 1: do that. Some Russians were like Alexander Dugan. Hardliners were saying,
Speaker 1: why doesn't Trump do that to Zelensky? And then you
Speaker 1: had the UK Defense minister saying, why don't we do
Speaker 1: that to Putin?
Speaker 3: I mean, I like to turn that around. How about
Speaker 3: Putin's on the team of spetsnats guys to snatch Trump exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean it's just it just starts, it kicks off
Speaker 1: this domino thing like that. I mean, they always love
Speaker 1: their domino theories for wars, don't they. But really, what
Speaker 1: we see is when we see these kind of criminal
Speaker 1: acts of aggression. What do you think about Steven Miller?
Speaker 1: You know, Steven Miller's out there saying, well, you know,
Speaker 1: if you have a territory, historically we've seen that you
Speaker 1: need to be strong enough to be able to keep
Speaker 1: that territory or the stronger people just gonna take it
Speaker 1: away from you. Those are the rules under which we operate.
Speaker 1: And one person said.
Speaker 3: He seems psychopathic sociopathic people like so many associated with
Speaker 3: Trump unfortunately seem to be that's right, sadistic people, cruel people,
Speaker 3: so including christ you know them who I I like
Speaker 3: her as the Ilsa, the she wolf of the SS.
Speaker 1: Somebody put out a meme of Stephen Miller in the
Speaker 1: Nazi uniform and captioned it and said, pee wee German, Yes,
Speaker 1: because that's basically what he's talking about. And one person said, well,
Speaker 1: he just gave authorization for a bigger guy in his
Speaker 1: neighborhood to steal everything he's got in his house, right,
Speaker 1: that's basically what we're talking about. You know, just take
Speaker 1: whatever I want. And you know that they're making the
Speaker 1: world a much more dangerous place. Everything they do they
Speaker 1: claim is national security, and yet they're threatening our security
Speaker 1: because they're threatening everybody else's security.
Speaker 3: They're also styling it a law enforcement which is an
Speaker 3: interesting concept, you know, the snash How does the United
Speaker 3: States have jurisdiction over Venezuela legally speaking? And you know,
Speaker 3: if if it does, then why couldn't other countries essentially
Speaker 3: make the same argument? How about net and Yahoo has
Speaker 3: actually been indicted for something, you know, he's he's indicted
Speaker 3: He's been indicted for war crimes, and yet Trump welcomes him,
Speaker 3: receives him with honors. In Washington, he doesn't get you know,
Speaker 3: net and Yahoo doesn't get arrested.
Speaker 1: Well, they appeal to the president that George H. W.
Speaker 1: Bush Dad, He's like, hey, we went in and we
Speaker 1: we got was a strong married Manuel Noriego. We got Noriega.
Speaker 1: So we can do that again. And that's the danger
Speaker 1: of these precedents. You know, once somebody does it, you're
Speaker 1: going to have another president that comes down the line
Speaker 1: and says, well, so and so did it, so I
Speaker 1: can do it as well. I call it what about ism,
Speaker 1: because every time you point out something that is wrong
Speaker 1: or criminal about Donald Trump, you always hear the maga
Speaker 1: apologists say yeah, but what about what Hillary Clinton?
Speaker 3: Did you know?
Speaker 2: Or this or that?
Speaker 1: So it's always what about ism, as if that somehow
Speaker 1: excuses it.
Speaker 3: Again, we're at a point in the history of this
Speaker 3: country where principles don't matter. Everything's situational, everything's subjective, and
Speaker 3: ultimately it comes down to which party is in power,
Speaker 3: which wing of the party is in power. And it
Speaker 3: just it reminds me it's so so mirror like of
Speaker 3: Oral nineteen eighty four, where you know, he talked about
Speaker 3: that he created this wonderful scene where Winston Smith, the
Speaker 3: character is attending a party rally and the party order
Speaker 3: is giving a harangue to the crowd, and somebody walks
Speaker 3: behind the party order hands them a piece of paper
Speaker 3: and immediately the order changes from a rant against the
Speaker 3: war being I think with Eurasia to a war being
Speaker 3: with East Asia, and the crowd it immediately parpolates through
Speaker 3: the crowd that the political position has changed, and they
Speaker 3: just continue to roar their approval of the diametrically opposed position,
Speaker 3: having understood that, you know, this is the new orthodoxy
Speaker 3: that that has to be cheered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Well, while we're talking about orthodoxy that
Speaker 1: has to be chaired. I mean that's one of the
Speaker 1: things about AI in the way that it is going
Speaker 1: to be used to make people. You know, there was
Speaker 1: just they've already started putting out robocops in China for
Speaker 1: right now. They're just kind of surveillance devices and you
Speaker 1: know meter maid safety nannies that are out there nagging
Speaker 1: people things like that, but they're making them to look humanoid,
Speaker 1: actually making biped versions of them. Now and they can
Speaker 1: walk from place to place. It's not that much further
Speaker 1: out that they're going to start replacing these human robots
Speaker 1: that are dressed up as armed government workers, and they're
Speaker 1: pretty soon they're going to be replaced by the mechanized
Speaker 1: armed government workers that are out there, I think. But
Speaker 1: you've got an article about AI along for the ride.
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it focuses on a new Volvo electric vehicle.
Speaker 3: I think it's the EX sixty and they're incorporating Google's
Speaker 3: Gemini AI into it, and of course it's being presented
Speaker 3: as a helpy helperson kind of a thing because they
Speaker 3: created this problem of having these touchscreen interfaces in the
Speaker 3: car that make it difficult to control things while you're driving,
Speaker 3: because it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of hard to it's right of those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So instead of that, now you're going to have
Speaker 3: a conversation with the Gemini AI and ask it to
Speaker 3: do things. So if you need the stereo to change
Speaker 3: its station, it'll do that. It'll do all sorts of
Speaker 3: things that can make all sorts of adjustments while you drive.
Speaker 3: But beyond that, ultimately, what people don't see is that
Speaker 3: this is going to be used to control us, monitor us,
Speaker 3: and control us. In this case, Volvo is not only
Speaker 3: incorporating the AI. In addition to that, they are giving
Speaker 3: their AI access direct feed access to the cameras that
Speaker 3: are in the car. You know about the flock cameras
Speaker 3: that are being put up all over the country, flock
Speaker 3: that you drive, so you know, the cameras that are
Speaker 3: in your car that are sweeping the surroundings. Feed that
Speaker 3: data to the AI and then transmit that to the
Speaker 3: hive mind. And it's a mechanism by which ultimately they
Speaker 3: will have real time twenty four access to all of
Speaker 3: our movements. They'll be able to know exactly what we're
Speaker 3: doing all the time. And even creepier than that, a
Speaker 3: lot of these new cars have cameras inside the car
Speaker 3: to watch you, which again they present that as a
Speaker 3: safety feature. You know, we don't want people to be
Speaker 3: browsing behind the wheel, so we're watching you know, you're
Speaker 3: watching your eye movements in your face, and in that way,
Speaker 3: the park can let you know it's time for a
Speaker 3: coffee break. It literally says that a little icon will
Speaker 3: come up time for a coffee break. Well, you know,
Speaker 3: ultimately they'll be able to just shut the thing down
Speaker 3: if they decide you look angry. You expressed it expresses something,
Speaker 3: you know, politically incorrect about what's going on in Davos,
Speaker 3: whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: Lands for a comment, is that Jem and I tilt
Speaker 1: the air vent up now a little less?
Speaker 2: Wait, go back? No, not too far.
Speaker 1: Why can't I just have a little mechanical thing that
Speaker 1: I just reach over with my hand to move it right?
Speaker 2: What is the problem with the end of this?
Speaker 3: Do you remember the reboot of the Battlestar Galactica series
Speaker 3: that aired back in the early two thousands.
Speaker 2: M No, I never saw that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really good. One of the one of
Speaker 3: the interesting things about it was that the ship that
Speaker 3: survived the Cylon attack, the Silons are these AI robots.
Speaker 3: They know that into the fleet because the fleet used AI,
Speaker 3: so you know, they turned off all of their defenses
Speaker 3: except for this one old antique ship that was analog
Speaker 3: and still had everything hardwired. So that one ship, which
Speaker 3: was the Galactica, managed to escape and that and you know,
Speaker 3: I think there's there's actually a lot to that, you know.
Speaker 3: I just I think that us being connected to what
Speaker 3: they refer to as the Internet of Things is going
Speaker 3: to be our undoing and I think that it is.
Speaker 3: It is the smartest, wisest thing we can possibly do
Speaker 3: to disconnect from all of that.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to have these flock cameras everywhere. I
Speaker 1: have flock cameras in the car. We're going to flock
Speaker 1: around and find out, aren't we.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's been one of my pet peas about
Speaker 1: this interface that began with Tesla where they put that
Speaker 1: touch screen in the middle, because I guess it's a
Speaker 1: lot cheaper than making mechanical knobs that are going to
Speaker 1: last for a while, and you know, again even changing
Speaker 1: the air vents that are there, and it's unnecessarily complicated.
Speaker 1: It's difficult to use, and isn't it interesting? And I
Speaker 1: think you and I have talked about this before the
Speaker 1: fact that they can do that kind of an interface,
Speaker 1: And it's very distracting because you're trying to pinch and
Speaker 1: zoom and there's no tactile feedback, so you got to
Speaker 1: take your eyes off the road to do it. And
Speaker 1: yet if you are using a cell phone, they'll give
Speaker 1: you a ticket. But if you're driving one of these cars, hey,
Speaker 1: that's all just fine. Not a problem at all, but
Speaker 1: it is very distracting. I have rented cars that have
Speaker 1: had that kind of stuff in it, and you know,
Speaker 1: it is impossible to do anything while you're driving with them,
Speaker 1: even the simplest things, you know, changing the volume of
Speaker 1: air or the direction of the air, the volume of
Speaker 1: the radio or in that kind of stuff is it
Speaker 1: makes it impossible to do that. And then they take
Speaker 1: things like the door handles on the Tesla's you know,
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of reports about how people have
Speaker 1: been trapped inside because they have an accident. Now the
Speaker 1: door handled that's under software control doesn't work anymore. I
Speaker 1: had a friend who has a Tesla and he got
Speaker 1: stuck inside of his car for quite some time. Had
Speaker 1: fortunately had his phone with him and he could call
Speaker 1: tech support, but he had to call tech support to
Speaker 1: get the door open on his car. It's like, this
Speaker 1: is crazy, absolutely crazy that we turn our life over
Speaker 1: to these complicated systems. And I think if you look
Speaker 1: at the bigger picture, that's kind of what has happened
Speaker 1: to our entire infrastructure. We are on the cusp of
Speaker 1: something really really bad happening to us, and it's such
Speaker 1: a complicated, interconnected, just in time delivery system, that it
Speaker 1: wouldn't take much to disrupt all this stuff and create
Speaker 1: total chaos and havoc because the complicated, necessarily complicated in
Speaker 1: many ways system that we live with.
Speaker 3: Yep, I agree, it's gratuitously complex. And by the way,
Speaker 3: while Tesla was the first to pioneer those their flush
Speaker 3: mounted door polls that they extend when you approach the
Speaker 3: car and so then you have something to grab to
Speaker 3: open the door with the problem is that if there's
Speaker 3: an electrical failure, then you can't get in the car.
Speaker 3: And compounding that problem, Tesla's have laminated side glass that's
Speaker 3: very difficult to shatter. So you remember that, I think
Speaker 3: it was what was it the I can't remember the
Speaker 3: family relation of Mitch McConnell. A woman. She's like some
Speaker 3: tech lady, big billionaire person. Anyway, you know, she was
Speaker 3: apparently a little bit drunk and backed her Tesla into
Speaker 3: a pond and it was it was something that was
Speaker 3: completely survivable. It wasn't a high speed thing. She just
Speaker 3: rolled backwards into the pond. But they couldn't get her
Speaker 3: out of the car because the car shorted out in
Speaker 3: the water and they couldn't get the doors open, and
Speaker 3: they couldn't smash the windows open, so she drowned to death,
Speaker 3: you know, and and and again. It's not just Tesla.
Speaker 3: A number of higher end vehicle manufacturers now are emulating it,
Speaker 3: and they've got the same types of door pulls. And
Speaker 3: it's totally gratuitous complexity. I'm not I just don't like
Speaker 3: technology for its own sake, and complexity for its own sake.
Speaker 3: There's no meaningful improvement. I mean, isn't that difficult really
Speaker 3: to pull a handle? It's it's it's.
Speaker 1: It's geekis right. It's like, look guys, this is really cool.
Speaker 1: Look what I can do with this.
Speaker 3: That these systems are fragile. You know, a car is
Speaker 3: subjected to a lot of environmental harshness. You know, it's
Speaker 3: it's hot, it's cold. Uh, it gets jostled and bumped.
Speaker 3: So what works when the thing is new, maybe isn't
Speaker 3: going to work so well when it's eight, nine, ten
Speaker 3: years old. You know, there's going to be a failure
Speaker 3: at some point where it would have happened before. And
Speaker 3: the failure is going to involve a lot of money
Speaker 3: and hassle too. You know, having something simple like a
Speaker 3: pull you know. I mean, you know, a monkey could
Speaker 3: change a door poll with a screwdriver f basic handle.
Speaker 3: But when it's this complicated electronic system and you've got
Speaker 3: body control modules and computers and all this stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: now it's something that you end up having to have
Speaker 3: the thing towed to a dealership for and end up
Speaker 3: spending orders of magnitude more money to have the problem fixed.
Speaker 3: It's just it's stupid. It's almost a childish fascination with
Speaker 3: tech for its own sake, like a seagull that is
Speaker 3: like dazzled by a piece of tinfoil at the beach
Speaker 3: that keeps pecking at it.
Speaker 1: Speaking of foolish complications, that we've got bricked porsches. You've
Speaker 1: got an article about that. And I just saw that
Speaker 1: they've been doing really well last couple of years. I
Speaker 1: had very good years. This last year their sales were
Speaker 1: flat or declined slightly. Is it because of this or
Speaker 1: is it something else? What is this about the brick points?
Speaker 3: Well, this particular thing touches on what we have been
Speaker 3: talking about. Nominally, it's about their anti theft system. I
Speaker 3: think the acronym is VTS, and apparently it's one of
Speaker 3: these systems where if the hive mined senses that the
Speaker 3: car hasn't reported in after a while, then it will
Speaker 3: disable the car because it thinks that the car was stolen.
Speaker 3: In other words, it's some kind of an anti theft device,
Speaker 3: but it points out that the cars can be disabled.
Speaker 3: All these Porsches in Russia, I should back up, All
Speaker 3: these Porsche models that are in Russia just don't work anymore.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, they've been effectively bricked and turned
Speaker 3: off because a signal was sent out to the cars
Speaker 3: telling them to shut off. That's the key point. That's
Speaker 3: the key take home point. And it's not just Porsches.
Speaker 3: You and I have discussed this before. Connected vehicles, which
Speaker 3: means any vehicle that can receive over the air updates
Speaker 3: to the software that runs the computer. These have become
Speaker 3: essentially standard now, and they have been since around two
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty fifteen ish, so you know, for about
Speaker 3: ten years now, all the vehicles that have been sold,
Speaker 3: not just high end cars like Porsches, are connected. You know,
Speaker 3: they receive updates over the air, and implicit in that
Speaker 3: is the ability of an external force, whether it's a
Speaker 3: hacker or it could be the government or it could
Speaker 3: be the vehicle manufacturer, It could be a variety of
Speaker 3: different sources. Is capable of interfering with the operation of
Speaker 3: your car and of shutting it down. Another example of it, let.
Speaker 1: Me ask you, is this happening in Russia. Is this
Speaker 1: happening because Germany doesn't like Russia so they're disabling porsches?
Speaker 3: Well, it could be. One of the theories that's been
Speaker 3: put forward is that, yeah, it's kind of a punishment,
Speaker 3: and it may well be. It may well be in
Speaker 3: that particular case. But I think the thing that people
Speaker 3: listening to us should really take to heart is that
Speaker 3: if they have a newish vehicle, something that's built after
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen or so, that has this ability to receive
Speaker 3: over the air updates, implicit in that is that somebody
Speaker 3: else can get into your vehicle and control it. They
Speaker 3: can turn it off, they can change the parameters. There
Speaker 3: was an incident several years ago where there was a
Speaker 3: hurt and I think it was in Texas. You may
Speaker 3: remember this. This hurricane was projected to come down, you know,
Speaker 3: come down into that area. It was supposed to be
Speaker 3: a bad one. So Elon Musk and his great beneficence
Speaker 3: sent out an over the air update that increased the
Speaker 3: driving range of Tesla's you know, to get so that
Speaker 3: people could get out of the way of this hurricane.
Speaker 3: And he was widely lost. Look what he managed. What
Speaker 3: a nice guy, Elon Musk is And I think I
Speaker 3: was maybe the only person who said, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: that's great. You know, if you can increase the range
Speaker 3: of your car, that means he could also decrease it
Speaker 3: or give you no range at all. He could just
Speaker 3: set out an update to turn the car off. And
Speaker 3: you know, keep in mind, we're dealing with people who
Speaker 3: might say, oh, there's a climate emergency, we can't have
Speaker 3: people out there driving. So they just send out the
Speaker 3: signal and automatically they shut off the great majority of
Speaker 3: the cars that are out out on the roads because
Speaker 3: most of the cars that are out on the roads
Speaker 3: now have this connected technology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a matter of fact're talking about a climate emergency.
Speaker 1: They did you see that. Germany just told Toyota that
Speaker 1: they had to turn off the auto starts.
Speaker 2: So you know, people start up the car to warm
Speaker 2: your car up.
Speaker 1: That's right, you start the car early before you get
Speaker 1: in it so you can de ice it and warm
Speaker 1: it up, and that type of thing that, No, we
Speaker 1: don't want your internal combustion engines idling needlessly, so we're
Speaker 1: going to have to you know, so Lexus and Toyota
Speaker 1: just did an over the air update to delete The
Speaker 1: ability to do that pretty imaginately.
Speaker 3: Speaks to what we're talking about. They have the capability
Speaker 3: to control all sorts of things about your car without
Speaker 3: your consent, and it's a frontal assault against the whole
Speaker 3: concept of private property. I mean, you bought it's your property.
Speaker 3: You you supposedly own this, your name is on the title,
Speaker 3: you paid for it. And yet this external third part
Speaker 3: of this party out there can exert control over what
Speaker 3: is supposed to be yours. And if somebody else can
Speaker 3: exert control over the thing, then it really isn't yours, isn't.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: And of course, adding to all of this, they're allowing
Speaker 1: evs and hybrids to to heat up early. You know,
Speaker 1: they get an exception to all of this stuff. One
Speaker 1: person said, well, wait a minute, I guess this is
Speaker 1: because the politicians can't tell the difference between a building
Speaker 1: and a car.
Speaker 2: Sure, so you know, it's.
Speaker 1: Like we got both of those one of them you
Speaker 1: are allowed to heat. The other one you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to heat.
Speaker 3: Well, it's one again. It's one of the fatuities that
Speaker 3: has been a part of this whole evy thing since
Speaker 3: the get go, the idea that, well, it's okay to
Speaker 3: have carbon emissions, as they put it, if they come
Speaker 3: from some a power plant, you know, or some some
Speaker 3: centralized location where the power is generated. But it's a bad,
Speaker 3: bad thing, you know, if it comes out of the
Speaker 3: tailpipe of a car. Even though you look at it,
Speaker 3: the amount of CO two emissions, even if you buy
Speaker 3: into that whole thing that emanate from say, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: a natural gas fire utility plan, are enormous. The trivial
Speaker 3: amount that comes out of the exhaust pipe of a.
Speaker 1: Car or something comes out of one of Elon Musk's rockets.
Speaker 1: Going sure, But it was a few years ago you
Speaker 1: and I were talking about this very thing and pointed
Speaker 1: out that in India the fuel the power plants that
Speaker 1: were fueling that were providing power to the grid were
Speaker 1: so dirty because they could they were allowed to make
Speaker 1: them cheap and dirty. You know, the Paris Climate Corp
Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen that allowed India and China to build as
Speaker 1: many and as dirty of power plants as they wished,
Speaker 1: no restrictions whatsoever. And so the power grid was powered
Speaker 1: in India by power plants that were so dirty that
Speaker 1: if you had a car that was gasoline engine, you
Speaker 1: would emit less than they did. If you had a
Speaker 1: car that got thirty miles per gallon, you would be
Speaker 1: using less of their measured emissions than if you had
Speaker 1: an electric vehicle that was charged off of the power
Speaker 1: grid that was that was sourcing off of these dirty
Speaker 1: power plants. And so we said, well, maybe what we
Speaker 1: could do is just put a great, big balloon on
Speaker 1: the back of the tailpipe and just collect all of
Speaker 1: the gas until it gets really big, and then you
Speaker 1: have to drive to a location of a power plant
Speaker 1: and let this thing go, because it's okay if it
Speaker 1: goes in the atmosphere at a power plant. It's just
Speaker 1: not okay coming out of your own tailpipe as you're trying.
Speaker 3: It'd be funny if it weren't so stupid, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well you don't just match their stupidity. I
Speaker 1: guess that's amazing. Well, what else is on your radar here?
Speaker 1: I see that you had an article up about Camaro
Speaker 1: maybe coming back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's that. Well, there's a rumor. There's nothing that's
Speaker 3: been confirmed definitively, but GM's president Mark Royce has hinted
Speaker 3: that they might bring back the Camaro and noo. The
Speaker 3: Camaro was last available in twenty twenty four. Previously, it
Speaker 3: had been available all the way back to nineteen sixty
Speaker 3: seven as kind of a GM version of the Camaro,
Speaker 3: and it was a hugely successful car. The problem was
Speaker 3: that over the years it got progressively more complex and expensive,
Speaker 3: such that by twenty twenty four, even the base Camaro,
Speaker 3: the least expensive version of it, was nearly thirty two
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. That's the problem. You know, some people would say, well,
Speaker 3: it was an impractical car. It had tight back seats
Speaker 3: and you know, you didn't have a lot of room
Speaker 3: in the trunk. Well, that never was a problem for Camaro,
Speaker 3: and it's heyday. I did digging. I know a lot
Speaker 3: about these generation cars because I've been a fan of
Speaker 3: them for many years and I've owned a number of them. Well,
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy eight was the high water mark for Camaro,
Speaker 3: and during that year, Chevy sold something like two hundred
Speaker 3: and seventy thousand of them, which is an astoundingly huge
Speaker 3: number of them. And you and I can remember back
Speaker 3: in the seventies and eighties they were everywhere, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: just absolutely everywhere. And well that was because the base
Speaker 3: Camaro back in seventy eight was forty four hundred dollars
Speaker 3: and if you plug that number into the you know,
Speaker 3: the government sketchy BLS inflation calculator, which probably is way
Speaker 3: underestimating it, but anyway, it comes out twenty two thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: I kind of think if people could buy a Camaro
Speaker 3: today for twenty two thousand dollars, probably they would. You know.
Speaker 3: The difficulty is that the typical demographic for that car
Speaker 3: is mostly young guys, mostly guys under thirty five by Camaros.
Speaker 3: That's you know, that's it's that kind of a car.
Speaker 3: The problem is that that most young guys don't have
Speaker 3: thirty two thousand dollars plus the insurance, plus everything else
Speaker 3: that goes along with it to buy the car. So
Speaker 3: it's mostly an older guys car. And you know, you
Speaker 3: get to be older and it gets to be hard
Speaker 3: to get into one of these little cars and unpleasant.
Speaker 3: You probably yeah, yeah, you're probably married and you got kids,
Speaker 3: and it's just not that practical. And unless you're very affluent,
Speaker 3: you can't afford that second impractical car, the fun car.
Speaker 3: You know, you have to buy one car. So typically
Speaker 3: people will buy a crossover or an suv because it's
Speaker 3: you know, it's suitable for a family, it's practical. So
Speaker 3: that's the reason why Camaro got canceled chiefly. Now, what
Speaker 3: I'd like to see is them try to return to
Speaker 3: the roots of the car and bring back something that's
Speaker 3: much less expensive and something that's much more basic. You know,
Speaker 3: set me eate the Camaro. It didn't have the standard Camaro,
Speaker 3: did not have power windows or locks. It had a
Speaker 3: manual transmission. It had a thirty six cylinder engine, and
Speaker 3: that's just fine. You know. It was a fun, sporty
Speaker 3: car that was affordable. Now, if you look at like
Speaker 3: the base, I don't even know whether the use that
Speaker 3: term or base, the bass trim. The bass trim has
Speaker 3: has things that would have been considered high end, luxurious
Speaker 3: things once upon a time. Everything has power windows, power locks,
Speaker 3: climate control, power seats, a great stereo, cruised All those
Speaker 3: things are nice if you can afford them.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a Mustang, a sixty eight Mustang, and
Speaker 1: of course it had the windows were powered by my army,
Speaker 1: you know, and no air conditioning, no back seat. Really,
Speaker 1: I can testify to how small that back seat was,
Speaker 1: and that wasn't a problem. It's still a very popular
Speaker 1: car as a matter of fact. No air conditioning. But
Speaker 1: even in Florida, they used to have those you know,
Speaker 1: the triangle that is part of the you know, right
Speaker 1: behind the eight pillar. I don't know what you call
Speaker 1: that thing, but yeah, I used to be able to
Speaker 1: open that thing up and I could turn it and
Speaker 1: so I would get a massive amount of.
Speaker 2: Water, water.
Speaker 3: Raining.
Speaker 1: It would be water, but usually it would be when
Speaker 1: that's getting dumped into my lap and chest, you know,
Speaker 1: and that would really keep you cool.
Speaker 2: Problem.
Speaker 1: The only problem with it was that the control that
Speaker 1: latched it kept popping off of the glass. They didn't
Speaker 1: very well and I had a hard time trying to
Speaker 1: get it glued back on. But other than that, you know,
Speaker 1: the thing was very simple and very very fun to drive,
Speaker 1: you know. And when I got rid of that, I
Speaker 1: got a car that was even more simple, and that
Speaker 1: was the Triumph Spitfire. But it was also mechanically unreliable.
Speaker 1: It had a lot more things than just the little shutting,
Speaker 1: the little thing, the little control on the window that
Speaker 1: popped off. It had a lot of body integrity as
Speaker 1: well as engine integrity issues with that thing as well.
Speaker 3: But personality. But you know, I think that's right. There's
Speaker 3: a lag time. Like everything that's on the market right
Speaker 3: now is premised on people being able to deal with
Speaker 3: the cost in terms of the monthly payment, and that
Speaker 3: that did work for a while, but it's not the
Speaker 3: way it was. You know, the cost of everything else
Speaker 3: has increased so dramatically over the last several years that
Speaker 3: it's no longer feasible for most people to go out
Speaker 3: and pick up a thirty or forty thousand dollars car
Speaker 3: on top of paying twice as much for groceries, on
Speaker 3: top of twice as much for car insurance, you know, rent,
Speaker 3: and everything else that has gone through the roof. So
Speaker 3: you know, that's why it's no longer to use the
Speaker 3: favorite word of the progress is sustainable. So if we
Speaker 3: went back to a situation where certain options were simply
Speaker 3: a la cart like they used to be, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, you get the base car there it is.
Speaker 3: You know, you look at the options box and you
Speaker 3: see how much if power windows cost three hundred bucks, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'll go, I'll buy that, you know, if I can
Speaker 3: afford it. Now I'm going to skip that this time.
Speaker 3: I'd like to see I'd like to see things get
Speaker 3: back to that, you know, so that more and more
Speaker 3: people could once again afford cars and fun cars. I
Speaker 3: think it's sad that, you know, most of the fun
Speaker 3: cars now are very expensive cars. So you know, only
Speaker 3: older people in the handful of other people who aren't
Speaker 3: older and have the money, can afford to indulge in them.
Speaker 3: And that's, you know, that's that's undermining everything that that
Speaker 3: you know that I like about cars. The whole point
Speaker 3: is to have fun while you're driving and to enjoy
Speaker 3: the freedom of mobility. And you know, people are being
Speaker 3: turned off to that, especially to younger generations, because they
Speaker 3: can't afford it.
Speaker 1: Well, a good example of that is a good example
Speaker 1: is Jeep. Look at what Stillantis has done with it.
Speaker 1: They've added all the bells and whistles and luxury appointments
Speaker 1: to the Jeep that now they're not affordable to anybody.
Speaker 1: They have completely lost sight of what their target audience was.
Speaker 1: You know, these are people who wanted to grab this
Speaker 1: thing and go out, you know, in the rough with
Speaker 1: this stuff, and instead, what they're doing is they're adding
Speaker 1: everything that they can think of to it, so people
Speaker 1: can't afford them at all.
Speaker 3: Well, there's some good news there though. A couple of
Speaker 3: days ago, Stillantis, which is the parent company of Jeep
Speaker 3: and chrysand Dodge and Ram Trucks, announced that they were
Speaker 3: I love the phrase pulling the plug on their plug
Speaker 3: in hybrid versions of Jeep vehicles they have been trying
Speaker 3: to sell, if you can imagine it, they tried to
Speaker 3: sell it. They called it the four XE version of
Speaker 3: the Rank and it costs US twenty thousand dollars more
Speaker 3: than the Rangers didn't have the hybrid drive train. And
Speaker 3: the big cell, according to Jeep, was hey, you can
Speaker 3: drive this thing twenty miles on battery power alone. That's
Speaker 3: worth twenty thousand dollars more. I mean, you know, they
Speaker 3: pushed the price of the thing up to nearly fifty
Speaker 3: thousand dollars for a wrangler.
Speaker 2: That's insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because you know a lot of people I
Speaker 1: take this out and you know, the out back or whatever,
Speaker 1: and that twenty miles of driving without any gasoline doesn't
Speaker 1: really make any difference because you're going to be going
Speaker 1: a long way before you get to where you really
Speaker 1: want to play with the thing, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. They undermined everything that was the point of
Speaker 3: vating the jeep, which is simplicity, ruggedness, durability, and turned
Speaker 3: it into kind of a rich suburban person's plaything. And
Speaker 3: the problem with that is there are only so many
Speaker 3: rich suburban people who want to have like an image
Speaker 3: of being, Hey, I've got a jeep and I'm rugged.
Speaker 3: Look at me, as you know, I parked in front
Speaker 3: of my McMansion.
Speaker 1: That's right handas killing the motorcycle said, that's one of
Speaker 1: your articles there, what's going on with that?
Speaker 3: Well, that's a bit much, But I don't like the trend. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they you know, and they've done this in the past.
Speaker 3: They're trying to broaden the market, and they're trying to
Speaker 3: reach the younger demographic in particular by essentially taking the
Speaker 3: manual transmission out of the equation, which to me, if
Speaker 3: you do that, it's not a motorcycle anymore. There's a
Speaker 3: name for what that is. It's a moped or a scooter,
Speaker 3: and you're not. I'm not. I'm not slamming either of
Speaker 3: you know, I don't have an issue with it. This
Speaker 3: they make a lot of sense for a lot of people,
Speaker 3: but it's not a motorcycle. Motorcycle has a manual transmission.
Speaker 3: Part of the experience is shifting through the gears yourself
Speaker 3: and having that additional level of control over the bike
Speaker 3: that you don't have with with you know, a moped
Speaker 3: or a scooter. And I know, I understand the dynamic
Speaker 3: that they you know, these these you know, a lot
Speaker 3: of the younger generation have never done what you and
Speaker 3: I did when we were kids, rode dirt bikes, you know,
Speaker 3: and learned how to ride a bike, riding a dirt bike.
Speaker 3: They've not done that. So they're trying to get that
Speaker 3: that new buyer demographic in because they understand that right now,
Speaker 3: the majority of the typic buyer of a new motorcycle
Speaker 3: is a guy our age, you know, and we're not
Speaker 3: going to be buying any more motorcycles, you know, that's
Speaker 3: the bottom line. We know that that people are aging
Speaker 3: out of that market, so you know, they're they're trying
Speaker 3: to get the young crowd in but I think it's
Speaker 3: self defeating to do that because ultimately it really isn't
Speaker 3: a motorcycle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never really I never used I never rode
Speaker 1: a motorcycle, but I did enjoy riding a little scooters
Speaker 1: on the beach in Daytona Beach. I was really upset
Speaker 1: about the fact that when I took Careen back about
Speaker 1: a decade ago and we went over to Daytona Beach,
Speaker 1: where my family used to go frequently because there's only
Speaker 1: about four hours away from where we used to live
Speaker 1: in Tampa, and they won't even let you on the
Speaker 1: beach anymore. I mean you go back and you look
Speaker 1: at you know, Daytona five hundred really originally was a
Speaker 1: race that was on the beach, and so you know,
Speaker 1: we used to have these little little scooters that we
Speaker 1: could could rent. Even when I was in junior high school,
Speaker 1: I did that, and you know, they said you got
Speaker 1: to only drive it on the beach and you can't
Speaker 1: take it out anywhere else, and you know, they would
Speaker 1: only go like thirty miles an hour.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And now you can't drive anything on the beach, so
Speaker 1: all that stuff, it's like a ghost town there. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Everything is closed off. They had a boardwalk there. Nobody's
Speaker 1: allowed to do that anymore. And so I've actually even
Speaker 1: got a bumper that I put up where I show
Speaker 1: some clips from back in the nineteen seventies or so
Speaker 1: and just crowded with people and cars and all this
Speaker 1: teeming with life and with fun. And then I juxtaposed
Speaker 1: that with what's there now, which is nothing. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: all just government.
Speaker 3: And have taken over everything happened, Yeah, trying to now.
Speaker 3: There is some good news, and it's ironic. The Indians
Speaker 3: have taken over a lot of the classic British brands
Speaker 3: like Royal Enfield, and they have been bringing back affordable
Speaker 3: light small bikes and they're actually doing quite well with
Speaker 3: those things because they're accessible to young people. Under ten
Speaker 3: thousand dollars will buy you a very nice Royal Endfield Oreo.
Speaker 3: What's the other one? I can't I'm having an abiden moment.
Speaker 3: The big British brand of bike that's controlled by the Indians.
Speaker 3: I can't think of it. Anyway, it took the Indians
Speaker 3: to bring bring motorcycling back. I guess the Japanese and
Speaker 3: the Americans are even more guilty of this Harley. You know,
Speaker 3: it's selling thirty dollars bikes to you know, to sixty
Speaker 3: year old guys with pleated leather chaps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I guess the Indians could get the
Speaker 1: Indian bike, right, But they haven't bought that one yet, right,
Speaker 1: So I hope.
Speaker 3: That they do because they might actually bring back something
Speaker 3: that's elemental. You know, one time, Harley was like the
Speaker 3: quintessential bike and an Indian the same thing. It was
Speaker 3: a frame, a gas tank, you know, and an air
Speaker 3: cool v twin engine. Yeah, and it was specifically designed
Speaker 3: for you know, lugheads like me, you know, to be
Speaker 3: able to work on them with a crescent wrench. You know.
Speaker 3: Now you have to go to the Harley store to
Speaker 3: get the computer hooked up and get your accessory flashed.
Speaker 3: You know. It's it's they've taken all the finishing and
Speaker 3: all the personalization that used to be one of the
Speaker 3: huge appeals of these bikes. You bought it and then
Speaker 3: you made it yours by adding stuff to it and
Speaker 3: customizing it and fiddling with it, so your bike was
Speaker 3: not like everybody else's bike. Now you've got to go
Speaker 3: to the dealer and pay the Harley Tech to do
Speaker 3: that for you.
Speaker 1: That's right, because they've got control. They really own the thing,
Speaker 1: not you. And of course you and I have talked
Speaker 1: about that, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and the fights
Speaker 1: that were going back and forth and still are. I
Speaker 1: think with John Deere and telling the farmers, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you can't even buy the part from us and put
Speaker 1: it in. You're going to have to have us put
Speaker 1: it in so that we can set this up properly,
Speaker 1: otherwise we'll break your tractor.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised that there hasn't been a revolt about that.
Speaker 2: Well, people are not happy with it, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: They should just stop buying it. I mean, I personally
Speaker 3: would never buy something like that I don't have control over. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just a demeaning thing to think, Okay, this item,
Speaker 3: whatever it may be, that I've just paid money for,
Speaker 3: that is a sensible my property. Well, somebody else can
Speaker 3: yank my chain, you know, at their whim, and I'm
Speaker 3: holding to them and I have to go beg permission
Speaker 3: from them to be able to use my property that
Speaker 3: I paid for. I don't understand people who willingly sign
Speaker 3: up for that that's right.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it kind of goes back to what
Speaker 1: we were talking about before. You know, AI on board
Speaker 1: and they controlled to be able to remotely alter or
Speaker 1: even shut down your car and that type of thing.
Speaker 1: The first time I really started thinking about that was
Speaker 1: with the death of Michael Hastings, reporter that I still
Speaker 1: to this day believed that they killed him and that
Speaker 1: they did it with the Mercedes because he was he
Speaker 1: was before it all happened. He had sent out some
Speaker 1: messages to people saying, you know, I'm working on this
Speaker 1: thing and I've got to go into hiding, and he
Speaker 1: was looking under his Mercedes that he had, and he'd
Speaker 1: made comments to the person that he was renting the
Speaker 1: house from that he was very worried about what they
Speaker 1: might do with this car and everything. We look at
Speaker 1: the way the thing crashed. The engine went down the
Speaker 1: road in the direction that he was try traveling. It
Speaker 1: was going very fast. They got pictures of it going
Speaker 1: very fast, but of course that could be done remotely.
Speaker 1: And the engine went down the road in the direction
Speaker 1: he was traveling, whereas he went over in the right
Speaker 1: hand direction and had a head on with a tree
Speaker 1: that was not you know, the kind of head on
Speaker 1: that you would expect when there is a lot of
Speaker 1: speed going on. In other words, it wasn't completely crushed,
Speaker 1: but it immediately burst into fire and all that I
Speaker 1: thought was very suspicious. But you know, we'd already had
Speaker 1: people who have been part of security saying, yeah, we
Speaker 1: could use that to assassinate people, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what they did, and that, of course, as you point out,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the most radical version of that. But
Speaker 1: of course they could also just like they brick us
Speaker 1: and shadow ban us on you know, we get de banked,
Speaker 1: we get shadow banded on social media and other places
Speaker 1: like that, they could brick our cars as well for
Speaker 1: the same types of things.
Speaker 3: If they don't like what we're saying. You know, certainly
Speaker 3: this is something people I think really ought to be
Speaker 3: aware of. A lot of the systems in the car.
Speaker 3: For example, the accelerator pedal are now drive by wire.
Speaker 3: And what does that mean. Well, it means you have
Speaker 3: the illusion that when you push down on the accelerator
Speaker 3: pedal that it's your physical action that's resulting in the
Speaker 3: engine speeding up and the car accelerating. That's not so.
Speaker 3: What's happening is that signals data are being sent to
Speaker 3: the ECU, the engine controller, and that in turn is
Speaker 3: telling the computer to increase the engine speed. So implicit
Speaker 3: in that is that the engine could be told to speed,
Speaker 3: to race and rev and make you go barreling down
Speaker 3: the road. Now you think, well, then all I have
Speaker 3: to do is if it's an automatic transmission, well I'll
Speaker 3: just put it in neutral. Well, the problem there is
Speaker 3: that the transmission is now drive by wire. Also, you
Speaker 3: have the illusion that when you move that selector from
Speaker 3: park to reverse to neutral and drive, that you're engaging
Speaker 3: something mechanically. You're not. All you're doing is transmitting data
Speaker 3: to the computer, which then puts the transmission into reverse, neutral,
Speaker 3: drive and so on. Well, if it stays in drive,
Speaker 3: you're trying to frantically put it neutral to get the
Speaker 3: car also steering. Now, you know they have these lane
Speaker 3: keep assist things with electric assisted power steering that can
Speaker 3: exert physical control over your steering. That's right, And you
Speaker 3: know that could make this car steer violently to the
Speaker 3: left or violently to the right. All of these things
Speaker 3: are now part of the embedded software suite of pretty
Speaker 3: much all the new cars on the market. I'm leary
Speaker 3: of that stuff. I like mechanical things because mechanical things
Speaker 3: can't be controlled externally.
Speaker 1: That's right. So you got your accelerator, your break, your transmission,
Speaker 1: you're steering. All that is by wire, all that can
Speaker 1: be controlled. I remember Ron Atkinson and he said the
Speaker 1: modern cars, he said, you don't so much drive them
Speaker 1: as you manage them, right, And so he was talking
Speaker 1: about some of the hypercars that he was able to afford.
Speaker 1: But that has now been extended pretty much to everything
Speaker 1: under this kind of regime of drive by wire, hasn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. You know, it's a combination of synergistic things
Speaker 3: that aren't necessarily all the level and it's a way
Speaker 3: for the manufacturers to reduce costs, you know, rather than
Speaker 3: when a car comes down the assembly line. In the
Speaker 3: old days, they had to have a guy making the
Speaker 3: fine adjustments to things like a throttle cable. You know,
Speaker 3: the throttle had to be connected to the engine, and
Speaker 3: then it had to be routed through the firewall, and
Speaker 3: then it had to be connected to the pedal and
Speaker 3: they check the tension on it and make sure everything
Speaker 3: was working correctly. Now it's just literally what they say,
Speaker 3: plug and play. You know, the whole assembly comes down
Speaker 3: the line plug plug plug, and it's cheaper from the
Speaker 3: standpoint of the manufacturer to do that, saves them money,
Speaker 3: increases their profits. So it's not all evil, but it's
Speaker 3: still you know, it's still unfortunate and potentially very dangerous
Speaker 3: for us all and again, to get back to what
Speaker 3: we were talking about earlier, it needlessly increases the complexity
Speaker 3: of the thing. You know, back in the old days,
Speaker 3: like in my trans am, I if the throttle cable
Speaker 3: lines or snaps, I can easily find and fix it,
Speaker 3: and a cable is like a twenty dollars part. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, if the electronics that control the drive by
Speaker 3: wire throttle fail, it's not likely you're going to be
Speaker 3: able to die diagnose it yourself unless you've got the
Speaker 3: equipment to do it with. And it's probably going to
Speaker 3: entail expensive sensors and computer related stuff that you're going
Speaker 3: to have to pay a dealer to fix.
Speaker 1: That's right, You've got to have entire modules changed out
Speaker 1: and that type of thing. I you know, every time
Speaker 1: we talk about this, I think about what the guys
Speaker 1: at Flying the Auto were looking at the various generations,
Speaker 1: you know, the first generation, it's like, yeah, we can
Speaker 1: take out the small four cylinder engine that's in there.
Speaker 1: We can put in a big eight cylinder corvette engine,
Speaker 1: and so it's just kind of a mechanical thing. Can
Speaker 1: we squish it in there? Yeah, we can do that
Speaker 1: with this. But then, you know, and so the first
Speaker 1: couple of generations it was like that. By the time
Speaker 1: they got to the third generation, there was a good
Speaker 1: bit of electronic control, and so it got a bit complicated.
Speaker 1: By the time they got to the fourth generation, however,
Speaker 1: it took them a very long time. They had to
Speaker 1: go hire specialists who could reprogram things because everything was interconnected.
Speaker 1: You couldn't just pull the engine out and put another
Speaker 1: engine in there, because then it broke all these other
Speaker 1: supporting systems for ventilation and all this other It was
Speaker 1: all tied together, and it all had to be reprogrammed.
Speaker 1: And that's really a good example what's happening. You take
Speaker 1: a very simple sports car like a Miata, and you
Speaker 1: make it complicated like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and essentially unrepairable except by a technician.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm doing this project we were talking about before.
Speaker 3: I'm converting much transim from an automatic transmission to a
Speaker 3: manual transmission, and it's all mechanical parts and as long
Speaker 3: as everything fits and lines up, it's going to work.
Speaker 3: My engine doesn't care whether an automatic transmission or a
Speaker 3: manual transmission is bolted to it. It'll work just the same.
Speaker 3: But with anything modern, if it was assembled and made
Speaker 3: at the factory to have an automatic transmission, if you
Speaker 3: wanted to put a manual with it, you'd have to
Speaker 3: completely change all the computer stuff, reprogram everything to be incongruence.
Speaker 3: If you even could do that, it might be possible
Speaker 3: to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's what's happened to everything in
Speaker 1: our life. It's gotten hopelessly complicated and needlessly complicated. I
Speaker 1: would say, you look at all the things that are
Speaker 1: out there. Of course, it's made the guys who are
Speaker 1: the tech geeks and Silicon Valley's made them very, very rich.
Speaker 1: But it is much worse even than the planned obsolescence
Speaker 1: that we've seen for longest time, because what they've done
Speaker 1: is they've created things that are needlessly complicated, needlessly expensive,
Speaker 1: and under their control and continuing to be under their control.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a disturbing trend. Isn't it. But
Speaker 1: especially when you start to see AI moving its way
Speaker 1: into cars, I'm sure the geeks thought, hey, this is
Speaker 1: going to be great. We can talk to the car
Speaker 1: and it can talk back to us. This is like
Speaker 1: night Rider or something like that.
Speaker 3: That's uh, without the attractiveness of it, you know, well,
Speaker 3: there's lots that interests me in that. It's a sad thing.
Speaker 3: People are being alienated from their cars because they don't
Speaker 3: understand them. That's right, people or mechanically inclined, you know,
Speaker 3: the tradition of the feeling that you got of hey,
Speaker 3: I can fix this, or I'm going to do this
Speaker 3: to my car. I can do it. It's within my
Speaker 3: skill set. Now, you know, it's a car is just
Speaker 3: a two ton cell phone and it works, and you're
Speaker 3: happy that it works, I guess, you know, until it
Speaker 3: stops working, at which point you feel completely inept and powerless.
Speaker 3: Most people, and I've got friends who are professional mechanics
Speaker 3: of thirty years plus standing, and because they can't afford
Speaker 3: to pay for the software updates, the proprietary diagnostic equipment,
Speaker 3: they can't diagnose and work on a number of new
Speaker 3: late model vehicles because they just don't have the necessary equipment,
Speaker 3: and again, these are professionally trained people. They can't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, said, And that's really something that we're seeing
Speaker 1: happening in a lot of different facets of our life,
Speaker 1: of our culture. That's happening out there. It's always great
Speaker 1: talking to you, Eric, Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 1: You and I are of the same mind when it
Speaker 1: comes to this stuff, and we're seeing some very dangerous
Speaker 1: precedents that are being put in place. Hopefully it won't
Speaker 1: be too long before we talk to each other, and
Speaker 1: hopefully next time we talk there won't be some new
Speaker 1: war in Greenland or ran or wherever. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: got Orange. Man is really coveting Greenland, isn't he.
Speaker 3: I hope I can get my trans am back on
Speaker 3: the road before every before the poo hits the fans,
Speaker 3: so I can at least go out running over the
Speaker 3: zombies with my super T ten four speed.
Speaker 2: There you go, that'd be great. Thank you so much.
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