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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anything like it. It's really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>explain or put a word on it. But they were

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<v Speaker 1>just fearing for their lives and then they decided to flee.

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<v Speaker 1>These other words spoken from a young man when asked

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<v Speaker 1>why his family suddenly fled their home in Australia, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are words of utter confusion. Ladies, gentlemen, Vays and dams,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the fifth episode of the third annual Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>Week with Wicked and Grim. My name is Jacko and

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<v Speaker 1>it is my duty to be your master of ceremonies

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<v Speaker 1>for the remaining three days now. Running in fear is

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<v Speaker 1>not a new concept for the human race. No. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a tactic that is instilled very deep in

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<v Speaker 1>the blood of your ancestors. In the midst of fear,

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<v Speaker 1>it has evolved into an almost reflex for humans to

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<v Speaker 1>run and flee. The only problem is in the case today,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump family were running in fear, but they had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what it was they were running from or

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<v Speaker 1>being so fearful of. Ladies and gentlemen, theys and thems.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me pass you to your ever so distinctinguished hosts

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<v Speaker 1>Ben and Nicole for the full details.

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<v Speaker 2>How is this already Episode five.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Time is flying.

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<v Speaker 3>Time flies when you're having fun too, che I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, Halloween week is pretty much the best time of year,

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<v Speaker 2>so of course it's going to go by it pretty quick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just Halloween. How is it that? That's pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>all that's on my mind right now. I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>have anything else that's talk about. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>Halloween's like, really, it's almost here. But I do want

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<v Speaker 2>to say I got the final piece to my Halloween

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<v Speaker 2>costume today.

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<v Speaker 1>You did.

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<v Speaker 3>I am pumped that you actually were able to find it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it looks phenomenal, phenomenal. WHOA, Sure, I look exactly

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<v Speaker 2>like what I'm trying, but you're supposed to exactly like.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like if I were standing next to the

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<v Speaker 2>thing I'm dressing up as, and then it's me dressed up,

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't be able to all the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, I am. I still need to get one thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but I have some time because it won't be hard

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<v Speaker 3>to find, No, it won't.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be super easy for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I am just need to show it out that

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<v Speaker 3>I am drinking a margarita and this is just like

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<v Speaker 3>a pre mixed margarita that you can buy from the store,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's actually like fan freakin.

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<v Speaker 2>Pastic, but not as good as a margarita that I

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<v Speaker 2>make right now, because I make damn good margarita.

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<v Speaker 3>You do.

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<v Speaker 2>I've said it before and I'll say it again. The

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<v Speaker 2>key to a good margarita is minute made limeade mix.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's it. Well, yeah, because you can buy that

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<v Speaker 3>other like frozen concentrate. That's specific for margarita. It's shit,

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<v Speaker 3>It's really shitty, terrible. Just get limeade and limaid is

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<v Speaker 3>like way cheaper too, mm.

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<v Speaker 2>Hm, way cheaper and way better. Yeah. I have had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple people actually send us pictures of not drinking margarita's.

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<v Speaker 2>We have gotten a margarita picture because we asked for

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<v Speaker 2>that early on, but we have had people sending us

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of drinks, being like, hey, I'm at work, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't drink that, or I don't drink or this is

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<v Speaker 2>my drinking choice. That's totally cool. We have some photos

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<v Speaker 2>being sent in, so I'm stoked to post some of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I where have I been because I haven't well,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I know. I've been at a wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>So today anyway, Well, you've been I've been kind of

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<v Speaker 2>taking care of the social media at least few days.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I've been a little swamped.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most of them are coming in from like

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<v Speaker 2>being tagged or stories people putting.

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<v Speaker 3>In Hey okay, very cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I've been taking screenshots.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, I mean, just have a bevery bevy. It

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<v Speaker 3>could be a hot chocolate, it could be a tea,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be coffee, it could be lemonade.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be margarita.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, whatever you want, whatever floats your boat around here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Just on Halloween, that'll be the last day. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be taking photos of pictures of people who are

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<v Speaker 2>tagging us in their drink picks, and we're gonna post

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<v Speaker 2>in a colage. So make sure you get us tagged

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<v Speaker 2>in your Instagram pic.

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<v Speaker 3>That's super fun with your drink. Yeah, that's super fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Super fun, super fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It's super funny. Wow, that was just me not thinking going.

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<v Speaker 2>I just stopped to see where you were going to

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<v Speaker 2>go because.

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<v Speaker 3>That was funny. Where would you have gone?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because I was like, it's funny. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really work, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, at least I said I had something.

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<v Speaker 2>Touche touche points for doing it, committing. I committed, you did,

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<v Speaker 2>So you're ready for this case today?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually yes, because we don't actually go over to Australia

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<v Speaker 3>very often. We don't, so I'm pumped.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so we're gonna go over there today in

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<v Speaker 2>the story, not physically. I wish we could go.

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<v Speaker 3>Over the Oh yeah, that would be amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't there This might be speaking out of ignorance, but

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<v Speaker 2>isn't there summer like in our winter months, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like swapped the seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>But then they don't get like as harsh as winters

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<v Speaker 3>as us.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, they don't mean who does bucket? They're

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<v Speaker 2>they're like they're warmer days, their sunny days. They're long days.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's win ours or shit. So now that

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<v Speaker 2>ours is days are getting short and it's getting cold,

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<v Speaker 2>like minus thirteen celsius this morning. I could use some

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<v Speaker 2>Australian warmth in my life right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I know my prompt right now for like my photo sessions,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's freezing out. I'm like, just imagine you're on

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<v Speaker 3>the beach. I'll postly warm, and everyone's like, oh, I wish.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what it's like to live in Canada for

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<v Speaker 2>about like, I don't know, great nine months of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, it's not cold nine months of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, but you're wishing you were somewhere warmer for

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<v Speaker 2>nine months of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Wishing that you were someone somewhere else for nine months

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<v Speaker 3>of the year when you live in Canada. That actually

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<v Speaker 3>sounds terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Just warmer, Okay, that's all I said. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere else, just warmer or wishing it was warmer here,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not just slandrizing, slanderizing a word it is now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not slanderizing Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>Slandering I don't know. Anyway, let's let's rock and roll here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it. This case has been on my radar

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<v Speaker 2>for quite some time, and I wasn't quite sure how

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<v Speaker 2>to approach it because it's very different. But Halloween week

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<v Speaker 2>is the perfect time for it because there's not really

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<v Speaker 2>a crime that occurs per se. It's just very strange,

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<v Speaker 2>very bizarre and kind of creepy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>With that being said, this is the story of the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump family and how they fled their home.

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<v Speaker 3>The Trump family Trump t r M p Okay okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So by all accounts, this whole family, like the Trump family,

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're a normal family, right. It's just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your average, everyday, hard working type people. The father, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>was fifty one years old. The mother, Jacoba or Kobe

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<v Speaker 2>sorry I'm Cody as she was called, was fifty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Together they ran a successful red current farm, like the

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<v Speaker 2>red current berries. Okay, So they ran a successful red

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<v Speaker 2>current farm on their eighteen acre property.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So they had three children together, Rihanna who's twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>Mitchell who was twenty five, and Ella who was twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>All three of these children of theirs work together hard,

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<v Speaker 2>mind you, on their family farm together on the farm

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<v Speaker 2>that was called Parkview Farm. And their property and where

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<v Speaker 2>they lived was in Sylvan, which was just in the

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<v Speaker 2>outskirts of the Victorian capital Melbourne, in of course Australia. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of your you know, your blue collar, hardworking family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm impressed that all three kids wanted to continue

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<v Speaker 3>working on the farm because I feel like sometimes when

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<v Speaker 3>you're brought up with like a family business. When you're

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<v Speaker 3>of age, you're like, f that, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>work for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, you want to go do your own thing,

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<v Speaker 2>which I can coluely respect.

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<v Speaker 3>I can told like, I'm not bashing that at any means,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm honestly also impressed that all three of them

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<v Speaker 3>are still involved's that's impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah to touche, But yeah, they were all there. They

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<v Speaker 2>all were described by neighbors as workaholics and devoted to

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<v Speaker 2>the farm. And Nicole just downed her mark Ry.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, I just actually spilt my margarita all over myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it was bottom up, like the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>that cup was facing the ceiling. Make it's down the mice.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't really even drink it anyway. Sorry, what did

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<v Speaker 3>you just say?

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<v Speaker 2>You downed your market? Right before that, the neighbors described

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<v Speaker 2>the family as workaholics and devoted to the farm.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, I like a good workaholic.

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<v Speaker 2>Kay. So their lives went on each day with hard work,

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<v Speaker 2>and on Monday, August twenty ninth of twenty sixteen, it

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<v Speaker 2>should have been a day just like that, hard work,

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<v Speaker 2>just like any other day, by all accounts, but it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>A day just like any other day. Instead, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a day that seemed to be filled with panic, fear,

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<v Speaker 2>and absolute paranoia. The entire family inexplicably left their farm

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<v Speaker 2>when little warning, got into their car and headed north.

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<v Speaker 2>So family members of the Trumps generally were you know,

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<v Speaker 2>easily able to get a hold of the family, the

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<v Speaker 2>parents however, you know, with this being much of a

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<v Speaker 2>different day, they tried phoning, messaging, there was no answer,

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<v Speaker 2>and they quickly became worried about not being able to

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<v Speaker 2>contact them, and they phoned the police for a wellness

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<v Speaker 2>check the day after.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So the authorities would arrive on the Trump property to

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<v Speaker 2>look into, you know, the wellness check and what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And when they got there, it appeared as though the

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<v Speaker 2>family left in an absolute hurry, almost like they were

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<v Speaker 2>running from something or potentially someone.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the mess of the home, police were able

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<v Speaker 2>to surmise that it seemed like they were looking for

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<v Speaker 2>something inside their files or their financial records. So, mind you,

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<v Speaker 2>they own this business, right, so I'm assuming they got

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<v Speaker 2>quite a bit of records and papers, right. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these papers were found spread out in inside the

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<v Speaker 2>home rather neatly, mind you, in like little piles here

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<v Speaker 2>and there, almost like it's being pulled out of folders

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of sorted through.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's kind of like they're trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe a particular document or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It seemed like, maybe, huh, okay, that's really bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this wasn't all though. It seemed like the family,

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, had left behind some valuables, which indicated

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<v Speaker 2>to authorities that they did in fact leave in a hurry.

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<v Speaker 2>The valuables they did leave behind were passports, credit cards,

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<v Speaker 2>and cell phones, all of these which were still in

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<v Speaker 2>what people leave behind if they're like yeah, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>from someone or something, usually you're going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>the country. You're gonna want a credit card because you

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<v Speaker 2>can need money to get somewhere, buy things a hotel, room, food, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>cell phone for communication, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I feel like the most bizarre one out

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<v Speaker 3>of that is your cell phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Not because of these items being left behind, it also

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like they were wanted to wanting to be untraceable. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>no cell phone towers means no cell phone pings. No

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<v Speaker 2>you know, especially if they are going on a cash

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did these or oh this might be jumping ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>but did these their kids like have spouses of sorts?

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<v Speaker 2>As far as I'm aware, No.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, so pretty much the authorities were left just

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<v Speaker 2>dumbfouted scratching their heads at this point. The family members were,

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<v Speaker 2>of course concerns for the loved ones and their safety,

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<v Speaker 2>but they too were just left stump without any indication

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<v Speaker 2>of what happened. They were just like what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>Except there was one thing they realized that would help

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<v Speaker 2>them out. Not all the cell phones were missing. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>we're at home.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them was missing, Okay, see because my thought

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<v Speaker 3>they were taken. But keep going, because I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>One of the family vehicles was gone as well, so

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed like they took that family vehicle.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and one person's cell phone was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>One person's cell phone was missing. Okay, So meanwhile, the

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<v Speaker 2>day before the police arrived at the home, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to start looking at this from the family's point of view. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>the family up and left the home. They hit the road.

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<v Speaker 2>They were not taken. They willingly left in their family

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<v Speaker 2>vehicle and for the Trumps had started leaving the house

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<v Speaker 2>in a hurry, exactly as it seemed. They hit the

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<v Speaker 2>road and they were driving north to New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a bit of a problem. This wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>a road trip. They were fleeing. They were running. They

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<v Speaker 2>weren't just like, hey, let's just up and leave and

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<v Speaker 2>forgot some stuff. No, they were running from something. But

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't exactly know what they were running from or why.

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<v Speaker 2>All they knew is that they had a strong feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that someone was watching them or even possibly coming for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So the family themselves didn't exactly know what they were

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<v Speaker 3>running from. You mean, correct, what the shit?

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<v Speaker 2>Correct? What? So now they're on the road with fear

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<v Speaker 2>chasing them as they drove, and it was only about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two kilometers into the trip that Mitchell's cell phone

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<v Speaker 2>would be discovered in the family car and was subsequently

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<v Speaker 2>hurled out the window, where police would find it on

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<v Speaker 2>the side of the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. So Mitchell was the middle child, the son of

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<v Speaker 2>the family, and he was least convinced of any of

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<v Speaker 2>this paranoia or fear that was kind of shrouding over

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<v Speaker 2>the remainder of the family like a heavy dark cloud

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<v Speaker 2>sort of situation. He wasn't concerned of anyone tracking them

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<v Speaker 2>via his cell phone signal, but unfortunately the other members

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<v Speaker 2>of the family disagreed, so out the window his phone goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the next day, Tuesday, August thirtieth, Mitchell decided he

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<v Speaker 2>had enough. He's like, I don't know what we're running from.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on here. And when the

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<v Speaker 2>family reached Bathurst in New South Wales at around seven am,

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<v Speaker 2>he decided to abandon the frenzy and escape the road

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<v Speaker 2>trip and head back home. So he left his family

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<v Speaker 2>to head back home at seven am.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, this is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is just getting started.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like a big deal just to like

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<v Speaker 3>up and leave. Yeah, like it would have to be

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<v Speaker 3>pretty big.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, think of it this way, in my opinion, like

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<v Speaker 2>your family, clearly your close knit. Right, you're working together

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<v Speaker 2>day in day out on this family business, like you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are. You have to be together in some way,

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<v Speaker 2>shape or form, even if you don't necessarily get along,

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<v Speaker 2>there has to be some sort of relationship there where

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are close.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, and now at this point at the east, some

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<v Speaker 2>of your family is terrified of something that there's up

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<v Speaker 2>and running and everyone's calling or hauling in the car together,

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<v Speaker 2>and you make the decision, Fuck it, I'm not running.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys go ahead and run if you want, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm heading back home.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't mean necessarily him, but I mean, like

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<v Speaker 3>them all just leaving. But yeah, maybe he's like the

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<v Speaker 3>black sheep of the family.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows. Now. Without Mitchell in tow, the family continued

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<v Speaker 2>their road trip to escape who knows what. A short

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<v Speaker 2>time later and the rest of the family would arrive.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to try and say this right Jenolan Caves,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a popular popular tourist attraction in the area

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<v Speaker 2>near the Blue Mountains. The two sisters, Ella and Rihanna,

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<v Speaker 2>presumably unable to convince their parents to end the apparent

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<v Speaker 2>escape as well, decided to follow their brother's action and

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<v Speaker 2>head back home too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. So now the two girls on their own, they

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<v Speaker 2>came up with a plan of action to get themselves

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<v Speaker 2>back home. Now I'm not having a family vehicle. They

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<v Speaker 2>decided to steal a car together, okay, in which they did,

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<v Speaker 2>and then hit the road and made it to a

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<v Speaker 2>town just south of Goldburn.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you were going to say there were hitchhiking,

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<v Speaker 3>which was going to alarm me more, which I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>They just straight up stole a vehicle. That's just grand

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<v Speaker 2>theft auto right there, that is.

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<v Speaker 3>But also hitchhiking is terrifying too. But I was going

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<v Speaker 3>to say it's not illegal, but actually I think it

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<v Speaker 3>might be illegal. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's illegal in most places nowadays. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, here in Goldburn, for an unknown reason, the

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<v Speaker 2>two girls went their separate ways in this town. So

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<v Speaker 2>now we have the sun out on his own, the

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<v Speaker 2>two girls out on their own, and the parents now together.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have four separate parties.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the family's just completely divided.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. So Ella continued to drive the stolen car back

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<v Speaker 2>where she would be the first one to arrive back home,

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<v Speaker 2>and she found herself face to face with some very

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<v Speaker 2>concerned and confused officers at their farm. I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>how that conversation would have gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, you just roll up in the stolen vehicle.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Yeah, what's up? Hey? What's up? My parents fled

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<v Speaker 2>and are terrified. I stole a car, came back home.

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<v Speaker 2>My siblings are somewhere on the road. I have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea where. Oh when you're looking for us because we're

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<v Speaker 2>apparently missing. Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I don't really know actually why we fled? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>how can I help you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That's honestly, that's pretty much what happened though. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>when she arrived, that's basically what what happened. The police

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<v Speaker 2>are like, what's going on? What do you say that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I don't even actually know how you would handle that,

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<v Speaker 3>like them getting that response, you know, like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>make any sense the officers. Yeah, you would wonder if

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<v Speaker 3>if like she's okay, because it just makes zero sense.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean if she's okay? I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to expand on that, well, because there's something to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like is she is she mentally okay? Or is she

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<v Speaker 3>kind of hiding something because she's scared?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Fair enough would be my two thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, Well, mental stability and capacity and health is

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<v Speaker 2>all a very big, big topic on this case. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>very much so, so keep that in mind as we continue.

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<v Speaker 3>Forward, which is actually very alarming. Well, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna we'll hear more about it, but gosh, if the

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<v Speaker 3>parents were mentally unstable and then they went about just

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<v Speaker 3>fleeing their life, that's terrifle.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's not like they're like mentally and well, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, it depends what you mean by unstable, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's just mental health is a very big thing with

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<v Speaker 2>this case. It's just clearly something is going on. And yeah, huh. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>the other sister though, the one who is not at home,

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<v Speaker 2>so Rihanna, on the other hand, she was found later

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<v Speaker 2>that same afternoon. She was found in the back seat

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<v Speaker 2>of a stranger's vehicle. Apparently she attempted to be a

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<v Speaker 2>stowaway in someone's vehicle and hitch a ride somewhere, so

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<v Speaker 2>when the driver wasn't looking, or whether she broke into

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<v Speaker 2>the vehicle, that's unclear, but she crawled in at some

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<v Speaker 2>point and the driver was manned by the name of

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, Keith Whittaker now he was driving mining his

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<v Speaker 2>own business when suddenly he felt a kick on the

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<v Speaker 2>back of his seat. And I have a quote directly

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<v Speaker 2>from Keith here quote. I turned around and saw two

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<v Speaker 2>legs stretched across my back seat, between my seat and

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<v Speaker 2>the floor. She was lying on the floor. I got

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<v Speaker 2>an extreme shock. Yeah, rightfully, someone's just sitting there, chilling,

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<v Speaker 2>laying on the floor of your vehicle. What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be like, the fuck? Yeah, you do one.

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<v Speaker 2>So as if this case basically can't get odd enough.

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<v Speaker 2>When this man found Rihanna, he described her as quote, catatonic.

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<v Speaker 2>He asked her if she was okay, and she said, no, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean exactly by that? Like, what what

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<v Speaker 3>do you mean by catatonic?

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<v Speaker 2>Catatonic is just kind of like just blank, just nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, yeah, so kind of like almost empty ish.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay. So he's like, do you need help?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you okay? It's just like, no, I don't need help,

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<v Speaker 2>just chilling in the back seat of his fucking vehicle, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is even more alarming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was on Because of her catatonic state, she

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<v Speaker 2>was unable to provide any personal details or identify who

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<v Speaker 2>or where she was Keith called the authorities, informed them

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<v Speaker 2>of what just happened with this strange girl appearing in

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<v Speaker 2>the backseat of his fucking vehicle, and then of course

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<v Speaker 2>authorities came and they took Rihanna to Goldburn Hospital where

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<v Speaker 2>she was treated for stress related issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh okay.

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<v Speaker 2>On Wednesday, August thirty first, first, Mitchell arrived at home

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<v Speaker 2>via train, so just like a sister. When he made

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<v Speaker 2>it home, he was met with a barrage of police

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<v Speaker 2>and questions, and of course news by this time was

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<v Speaker 2>really spreading around, so they're asking him what's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening? Where were you were your parents? And he's like,

425
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

426
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is just like mind blowing to them. This

427
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<v Speaker 3>is probably such a new concept that they've never even

428
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<v Speaker 3>grasped like they do.

429
00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so bizarre. Yeah. He tried to give all

430
00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the information he could, like where his parents were when

431
00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:39.400
<v Speaker 2>he left, where they were headed sort of thing, but

432
00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:41.880
<v Speaker 2>there just wasn't much to go on. And I do

433
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<v Speaker 2>have a quote from him. It's the same quote actually

434
00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:48.400
<v Speaker 2>that Jacko using the intro, but I'll put it here

435
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:50.079
<v Speaker 2>as well because I do feel it's a good quote

436
00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:53.759
<v Speaker 2>and important so quote. I've never seen anything like it.

437
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<v Speaker 2>It's really hard to explain or put in put a

438
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<v Speaker 2>word on it. But they were just fearing for their

439
00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:01.039
<v Speaker 2>lives and then they decided to flee.

440
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:06.960
<v Speaker 3>So it's mostly just the parents then fully that, and

441
00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:09.799
<v Speaker 3>they're trying. They were so worried. They're like, we got

442
00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:13.440
<v Speaker 3>to take our kids and stuff, and the kids aren't

443
00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:15.279
<v Speaker 3>buying what they're exactly fleeing from.

444
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:19.799
<v Speaker 2>It seems like it was primarily the parents. The daughters

445
00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:24.079
<v Speaker 2>I think had some paranoia in them as well. Mitchell

446
00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:26.680
<v Speaker 2>not so much. It seems like he just kind of

447
00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.680
<v Speaker 2>like went along with it, like what's going on, Like okay,

448
00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:32.359
<v Speaker 2>like we're fleeing, sure from what what's happening? And then

449
00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:34.960
<v Speaker 2>he's like, this is I can't do this. This is

450
00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:35.759
<v Speaker 2>just bizarre.

451
00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:39.039
<v Speaker 3>But it obviously can't be from the house. It's itself

452
00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:41.960
<v Speaker 3>really if all of them kind of went back there,

453
00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:44.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, Yeah.

454
00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:50.079
<v Speaker 2>We'll touch on a theory later, Okay. So police would

455
00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:52.960
<v Speaker 2>of course make the way to search the Jenolan Caves,

456
00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the area where Mark and Jacoba were last noted to be.

457
00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Of course, with their paranoia and someone following them, they

458
00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:03.480
<v Speaker 2>hadn't stayed at the caves. Very long, they two turned

459
00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:06.599
<v Speaker 2>around and headed back south again, actually making their way

460
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:13.279
<v Speaker 2>about halfway home to the town of Wanjarretta genjarreda sorry

461
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:17.400
<v Speaker 2>terrible at pronunciation when jarreda. From there, they too became

462
00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:20.279
<v Speaker 2>separated from one another, and it isn't clear how or

463
00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:26.200
<v Speaker 2>why what The so Jacoba traveled alone north to Yas

464
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:30.079
<v Speaker 2>on public transport while Mark remained behind with the vehicle.

465
00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:34.799
<v Speaker 2>A young couple in the area actually experienced and reported

466
00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:40.759
<v Speaker 2>a rather interesting slash some say disturbing incident that night. Allegedly,

467
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:45.640
<v Speaker 2>they were being tailgated with a man in a silver

468
00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:50.759
<v Speaker 2>station wagon on the highway, the same family vehicle that

469
00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:52.880
<v Speaker 2>was described for them to own, and they were being

470
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.519
<v Speaker 2>tailgated so close that they couldn't even see the headlights

471
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<v Speaker 2>in their rearview mirror at the vehicle behind them.

472
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<v Speaker 3>Fricking tailgating pisses me on, Yeah, I get just raged

473
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:03.160
<v Speaker 3>when someone tailgates me.

474
00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, they were not too happy either. They were confused

475
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:08.799
<v Speaker 2>on what the hell's going on, so they eventually stopped

476
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.119
<v Speaker 2>their vehicle and the driver of the vehicle behind them,

477
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:15.279
<v Speaker 2>the silver vehicle, got out of their car and ran

478
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:16.400
<v Speaker 2>up towards their vehicle.

479
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh.

480
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Then he suddenly suddenly just stopped in the middle of

481
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the street, stared directly at them for a minute, and

482
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:28.400
<v Speaker 2>then ran off into a park nearby, a park called

483
00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Mirwa Park, leaving the vehicle abandoned. What so it was

484
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the family vehicle and it is theorized that this of

485
00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:37.519
<v Speaker 2>course was Mark.

486
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:42.319
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so they actually found this vehicle abandoned.

487
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he was driving it at this incident and

488
00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>then just ran off into the park. Oh, leaving the

489
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:49.160
<v Speaker 2>vehicle behind.

490
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:52.160
<v Speaker 3>I would actually shit myself a little bit if.

491
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Someone just runs upstairs at you and then darts off

492
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:55.160
<v Speaker 2>in the park.

493
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:58.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't think I would ever be okay after that.

494
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Nope. That's kind of like nightmare fuel. Yeah yeah. Yeah.

495
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.480
<v Speaker 2>On Thursday, September one, Jacoba was found by a passerby

496
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:10.319
<v Speaker 2>who spotted her wandering around the town in an agitated state,

497
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:12.240
<v Speaker 2>more than two hundred and forty kilometers from where she

498
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:14.920
<v Speaker 2>was last seen, and was taken to a hospital in

499
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Yas for stress related health issues.

500
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Which was the same was what her daughter was taken

501
00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:20.559
<v Speaker 3>in for.

502
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, correct now. Sergeant Mark Knight of the police department

503
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>said that doctors at the hospital had assessed her and

504
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:32.559
<v Speaker 2>her mental health was quote wasn't of a good standard,

505
00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:35.839
<v Speaker 2>and Sergeant Knight also referred to the case as the

506
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:40.720
<v Speaker 2>most bizarre thing he'd come across in three decades of policing.

507
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:42.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't say.

508
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Rightfully, So it seems very bizarre to me.

509
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, I'm like confused as shit right now. So

510
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:48.200
<v Speaker 3>I get that.

511
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so now Mitchell and uh, I've already forgot the

512
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:56.960
<v Speaker 2>two daughter's names, Rihanna and what was the other one again, Lakeisha?

513
00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:58.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I can't remember.

514
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Not Lakeisha, It's not what. But the other daughter has

515
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:02.319
<v Speaker 2>been found Ella.

516
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:05.039
<v Speaker 3>That was Ella. So that's pretty close to Lakeisha.

517
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh damn, near identical. You're like one letter off. But

518
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:12.640
<v Speaker 2>they are both safe at home. Rihanna and the mother

519
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 2>are both hospitalized at this point, Okay, And the search

520
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>for the father, Mark is pretty much the only piece

521
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 2>that they need to get held down here. I was

522
00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:27.599
<v Speaker 2>going to say the only piece left, but I mean

523
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.359
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of pieces here because it's bizarre.

524
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I should they find him?

525
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, the search for fifty one year old Mark

526
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:38.440
<v Speaker 2>was underway and there was sightings of him that are

527
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:40.720
<v Speaker 2>being getting to pop up in the area, like the

528
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>one of him tailgating running off for example. And then

529
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.160
<v Speaker 2>they were also breaking and enters and theft reported that

530
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:50.319
<v Speaker 2>may have been believed to have been committed by Mark.

531
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:52.400
<v Speaker 2>One being in a motel that was like it was

532
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.799
<v Speaker 2>broken into someone slept it in it overnight. They believe

533
00:27:56.039 --> 00:28:00.559
<v Speaker 2>it was Mark who did that. Okay, So it was

534
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:04.240
<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, September third that Mark would finally be found.

535
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>He was located running along the street on the outskirts

536
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 2>of Wangarata near the local airport that evening. Police picked

537
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:15.519
<v Speaker 2>him up and released him to a family member several

538
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:19.880
<v Speaker 2>hours later after questioning. Unfortunately, Mark wasn't able to provide

539
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.839
<v Speaker 2>much information to the authorities either, and as they drove

540
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 2>away with the family member, he subsequently flipped off the

541
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 2>waiting media for questioning.

542
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.839
<v Speaker 3>What yeah, and he was found just running down the road?

543
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:37.359
<v Speaker 3>Correct anything? Said, he doesn't need to give an explanation

544
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:38.000
<v Speaker 3>on anything.

545
00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, like he was talking to authorities. It's

546
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:43.039
<v Speaker 2>the media that he flipped off.

547
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but still like did not even have any explanation

548
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Speaker 3>to them though.

549
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean he doesn't. No one owes news anything.

550
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:51.920
<v Speaker 3>To the authorities.

551
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, oh, he was talking to authorities.

552
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:55.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you said he doesn't really know what the

553
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:56.839
<v Speaker 3>shit's going on, which is so confusing.

554
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he doesn't.

555
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, okay, Well, if he does know what's going on,

556
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:01.680
<v Speaker 3>who the fuck does?

557
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 2>No one does. That's the point. No one fucking knows.

558
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, my brain can't comprehend this case.

559
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.319
<v Speaker 2>He basically has this paranoia over being followed, as if

560
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>someone was after him, his family or money.

561
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, and he's the one fucking taliating people, so

562
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:20.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't get that.

563
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, fair enough. But in a statement the following

564
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 2>meet week, Mark had this to say, quote, and I

565
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:30.279
<v Speaker 2>do want to say this though. Some of the quotes

566
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 2>I have here are pieced together quote, so it's not

567
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:36.559
<v Speaker 2>like a single paragraphed quote. It's kind of strung together

568
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 2>different pieces that he said. Just heads up on that.

569
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:43.319
<v Speaker 2>So he said, quote without reservation. I apologize for the

570
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:46.799
<v Speaker 2>hurt and concern caused by these events on behalf of

571
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:49.759
<v Speaker 2>our family. I express deep gratitude to the Victoria and

572
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:53.039
<v Speaker 2>New South Wales police, as well as a healthcare professionals

573
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:57.160
<v Speaker 2>who looked after our physical and mental well being. More

574
00:29:57.200 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>than anything, my family and I need time to rec

575
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>cover and receive appropriate assistance, including mental health services. To

576
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:08.599
<v Speaker 2>this end, we request that the media organizations respect a

577
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>request for privacy and without reservation. I apologize, sorry, I

578
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 2>already read that part without reservation. I apologize for the

579
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>hurt and concern caused by these events.

580
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:25.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, huh, okay, I'm shook right now. Like I have

581
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 3>no idea what the fuck's going on.

582
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.759
<v Speaker 2>I can tell well, yeah, I can tell. Okay, trust me,

583
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I researched this. I have no idea what the fuck's

584
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.119
<v Speaker 2>going on. They went through it, they have no idea

585
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:38.480
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck's going on. There's literally no real answers

586
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 2>that came out of this incident.

587
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.039
<v Speaker 3>My gosh, but what don't just a waste of like

588
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:44.519
<v Speaker 3>resources and money too with this?

589
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, but you still need to go in

590
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 2>like help someone, like oh.

591
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I'm not saying it's like but it's just

592
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.920
<v Speaker 3>so much money and stuff that and time and things

593
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 3>and then and then it was everyone was found. But

594
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:58.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like, no one knows anything more. It's just weird.

595
00:30:59.119 --> 00:30:59.759
<v Speaker 3>It's weird.

596
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:06.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. There were actually some reports that came out about

597
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>those close to the family and the build up coming

598
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:13.480
<v Speaker 2>up to the big day of this event happening, reports

599
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 2>of a little bit of paranoia in the months building

600
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 2>up kind of came out. So whether there is much

601
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:24.400
<v Speaker 2>truth behind it or not, it's hard to say, especially

602
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:28.160
<v Speaker 2>because the family does has been like very private and

603
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 2>wanting to keep it within themselves, So I totally understand that.

604
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 2>But basically, everything did just get to a boiling point

605
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.559
<v Speaker 2>and the family just didn't know what they were running

606
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>from or why. They just felt as though they needed

607
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:42.480
<v Speaker 2>to leave their home for their own safety.

608
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know, oh man, I maybe shouldn't say this,

609
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.400
<v Speaker 3>but I almost just felt a feel in a sense

610
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 3>too that it's like, because you said they were workaholics, right, yeah,

611
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:57.359
<v Speaker 3>just like burnout and possible, very possive, like they burnt

612
00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:59.799
<v Speaker 3>themselves out and then they're just like in this delusional

613
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 3>state of they don't know what's going on.

614
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very possible. I mean there are some theories.

615
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's there's no doubt that mental health plays

616
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>a massive role in this case one way or another.

617
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>And also, what else is the internet good for other

618
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 2>in situations like this if not for coming up with theories?

619
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Now there aren't really I mean, there's not a lot

620
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>of theories, but they do range from psychosis caused by

621
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:30.720
<v Speaker 2>chemicals used on their farm, oh boy, perhaps leaking into

622
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.000
<v Speaker 2>water supplies or something who knows, to suggesting that they

623
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 2>were actually running from debt collectors. Okay, but both of

624
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>these particular theories investigators did rule out.

625
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, both of those made a lot of sense to me, though, Yes,

626
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 3>I was looking for them to be one of them.

627
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>No, they both have apparently been ruled out by authorities.

628
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it yeah, that's about it.

629
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

630
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Now, there is kind of another theory. It's not really

631
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:08.799
<v Speaker 2>a theory, it's more of a health thing. I guess

632
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 2>if you could say, there's a condition known as fully

633
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.680
<v Speaker 2>de duh fully a duh, which is madness of two

634
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.559
<v Speaker 2>in which people in a close knit relationship experience a

635
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 2>shared psychosis essentially when they feed off one another's like psychosis, paranoia, stress,

636
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:28.359
<v Speaker 2>it builds up tension from one another to the other.

637
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 2>So just building this and snowballing and like, you know,

638
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>like one person's like say, for example, I think I

639
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>hear footsteps down the hall, Nicole, did you hear that? Well,

640
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.359
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you're listening for it. Oh, maybe

641
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I heard it. Too, and then now we're both terrified.

642
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I see, I've never heard of term of it,

643
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 3>like the term that you said, but yeah, that makes sense.

644
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there is a theory that this is particularly

645
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:57.240
<v Speaker 2>the case of what happened with this psychosis building up

646
00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.759
<v Speaker 2>spilling over from just not only the parents but to

647
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>the kids. So again though we just don't know. Okay,

648
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I do want to talk about one thing really quick,

649
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:14.440
<v Speaker 2>because there was technically a crime that was committed within this.

650
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 2>The two daughters did steal a vehicle, right so Ella

651
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:21.760
<v Speaker 2>was charged for allegedly stealing the vehicle and Rihanna was

652
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.360
<v Speaker 2>also charged for the vehicle as well, but charges were

653
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.880
<v Speaker 2>later dropped under the Australia's Mental Health Act and the

654
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:31.519
<v Speaker 2>vehicle owners understanding the distress of the situation with the family,

655
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 2>so all charges in that regard were dropped.

656
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 3>That's actually really good.

657
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:42.079
<v Speaker 2>It is definitely I do want to end this one

658
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>off with a quote from the daughter, Ella, and it's

659
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:48.440
<v Speaker 2>something that she said during a press interview. It is

660
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 2>very confusing. I still feel very confused. I think our

661
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 2>state of minds wasn't in the best place. And yeah,

662
00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I can't even really there's no one reason for it.

663
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 2>It's bizarre.

664
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

665
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:07.679
<v Speaker 2>So those arms and ohs, that's even directly quoting, right, Yeah.

666
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Okay, see, I actually, well I was going to say,

667
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 3>so my thought was that they it was something that

668
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.440
<v Speaker 3>they were potentially like embarrassed about, right, so then they

669
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 3>were like covering it up. But what you just said

670
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 3>about how the paranoia can kind of be transferred to

671
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 3>the family members and like this close knit situation makes

672
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of sense to me.

673
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:29.400
<v Speaker 2>It does, actually when you look on it and reflect

674
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>on it, it does make a lot of sense.

675
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But then also, I like because Ben and I

676
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 3>are a little bit workaholics too, and there's been so

677
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 3>much there's been times where I've just like had so

678
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 3>much on my plate though that I'm just like I

679
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.119
<v Speaker 3>just want to run away, you know, I say that often. Yeah,

680
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.000
<v Speaker 3>But and it's like just want to like leave the situation.

681
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

682
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.440
<v Speaker 3>But I so I think that it's a small potential.

683
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 3>But I think what you said, without the paranoia, it

684
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:57.920
<v Speaker 3>makes the most sense.

685
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:00.320
<v Speaker 2>M I think a stress does get to a certain

686
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 2>boiling point. I mean it's gonna be it's gonna be

687
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 2>a couple of many things. I think, Like, I don't

688
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 2>think stress alone would generally do that. I don't think

689
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 2>depression alone would generally do that. I don't think paranoia alone. Yeah,

690
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean imagine, like you're running a business and a farm.

691
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure maybe even lack of sleep put in with

692
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>the stress, put in with the.

693
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 3>Depression causes paranoia.

694
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the family, like I said, you might not get

695
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:31.239
<v Speaker 2>along working that close knit together. Maybe there is some

696
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.559
<v Speaker 2>fights within the family that's been causing a little bit

697
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:36.920
<v Speaker 2>more stress. They still love each other, but maybe there's

698
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.119
<v Speaker 2>just these high tensions because maybe the marriage is struggling

699
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:43.239
<v Speaker 2>and one of the kids is I don't know, maybe

700
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 2>they're I'm just gonna make up a situation here. Maybe

701
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>the family is a Christian family and then one of

702
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 2>the kids decides that they're not Christian, they don't want

703
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:53.000
<v Speaker 2>to believe in that faith anymore. That could cause a

704
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 2>struggle within the family, which builds these tensions, builds these

705
00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:00.960
<v Speaker 2>pressures and feed into whatever their mental health state was.

706
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.960
<v Speaker 3>And they probably didn't expect it to blow up kind

707
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 3>of to the way it did night. I don't think so,

708
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 3>where many people were looking for them, and like the

709
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:11.039
<v Speaker 3>press was involved in all this.

710
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, and I do want to paint one final

711
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 2>little picture here, because it was just kind of a

712
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.119
<v Speaker 2>thought that came to my mind. What if they weren't

713
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.880
<v Speaker 2>even intending on running in fear. What if they were

714
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>intending on saying, Hey, like, stresses and everything is so high,

715
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 2>we just got to get away for the weekend, Like

716
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 2>you say, just run away from the situation for a bit.

717
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Let's just go up to a park or something. Let's

718
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:38.079
<v Speaker 2>just grab some cash, leave the phones and stress all

719
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 2>this shit behind, just go on a fucking family day

720
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>trip or something.

721
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

722
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 2>And then just under that, just panic started building and

723
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 2>just oh my god, let's just fucking get to the

724
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:48.519
<v Speaker 2>car and like, oh my god, we got to get

725
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.320
<v Speaker 2>out here, leave your shit behind. And it just that

726
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>alone boiled up into feeding off each other and not

727
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.079
<v Speaker 2>knowing what's going on and just building into a paranoia.

728
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And then when they were out on the road

729
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, they were maybe arguing and not getting along.

730
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.599
<v Speaker 3>Hence why they kind of divided, Yeah.

731
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Very much so, because I mean they don't know, no

732
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 2>one knows. So if two people are arguing over something

733
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>that neither knows anything on, of course that's going to

734
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:18.880
<v Speaker 2>draw a line in the sand.

735
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

736
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, why don't you just tell me? I don't know,

737
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>why don't you just tell me? It's like, where are

738
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 2>we going? I don't know where are we going? Yeah,

739
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:29.079
<v Speaker 2>that would cause a very stressful and very panic situation.

740
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because say, if they were just like if it

741
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:35.639
<v Speaker 3>was some sort of like paranor pair. What am I

742
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 3>trying to see it here?

743
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Paranormal?

744
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:41.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, incidence? Yeah, I don't know why that word left

745
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 3>me for a minute. They would probably a not want

746
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 3>to go back to their home and be say something

747
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:48.400
<v Speaker 3>about it.

748
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Correct. Yeah.

749
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 3>So hm, wow, that is bizarre.

750
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's the story of the Trump family and

751
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:58.840
<v Speaker 2>they don't even know why they fled their home.

752
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm really glad that they're all safe and stuff. Yes,

753
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:03.599
<v Speaker 3>it could have ended it could have ended.

754
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:07.079
<v Speaker 2>A law worse, Oh very much. So in mental health

755
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:10.599
<v Speaker 2>situations like that generally, I mean, it's sad to say

756
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:12.760
<v Speaker 2>people have gone to the extremes of taking their own

757
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:14.119
<v Speaker 2>lives over paranoida like that.

758
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.679
<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, and lots of times two families will take

759
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:18.800
<v Speaker 3>the lives of their loved ones too, if they're like

760
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:21.800
<v Speaker 3>to the extent of that paranoid right.

761
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:26.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. So wow, So yeah, that's a very interesting

762
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:29.239
<v Speaker 2>case and one I thought was very worthy of Halloween week.

763
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, So don't let all these ghosts and monsters

764
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:34.519
<v Speaker 2>and scary things get all up in your head and

765
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 2>make you paranoid. This this Halloween.

766
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, jeez, this one, every single one we're doing this week.

767
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 3>It just makes me like think too much. My poor

768
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:45.199
<v Speaker 3>little brain right.

769
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Now, just frying your noggin.

770
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Kind of my brain feels tired. And this one just

771
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 3>like put it over the edge a little bit because

772
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:54.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what the actual I.

773
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Just picture, like you remember those old school drug commercials

774
00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:59.000
<v Speaker 2>where it's like they crack an egg and it's like,

775
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.760
<v Speaker 2>this is your this is your brain on drugs, and

776
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:03.199
<v Speaker 2>it's like sizzling in the hot pan.

777
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:08.159
<v Speaker 3>That's me right now, that's my brain. Yeah, because this

778
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 3>one is just too bizarre. I like, because you know

779
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.880
<v Speaker 3>how I like answers. I like salt cases and like

780
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:18.599
<v Speaker 3>where you know, because my OCD if I don't know,

781
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.599
<v Speaker 3>just gets to me and I'm like thinking about it

782
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:21.960
<v Speaker 3>too much.

783
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I love the ones where you just sit back and go,

784
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:25.920
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck you do?

785
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:29.599
<v Speaker 3>Love those yes I didn't notice, Well.

786
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Just surprise, surprise only took you over one hundred and

787
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.679
<v Speaker 2>fifty episodes and three years to figure it out. Well,

788
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 2>thank you, I love you too. I can see that

789
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:42.239
<v Speaker 2>love glare happening right.

790
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I'm head over heels for you mane.

791
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh definitely love you too. All right, Hopefully you guys

792
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:51.920
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed that one. Hopefully you guys are enjoying Halloween Week.

793
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.280
<v Speaker 2>We got some cool stuff coming down the pipes the

794
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.800
<v Speaker 2>next couple of days. Yeah, if you want to check

795
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:00.159
<v Speaker 2>out our links, they're all down below. Makes you end

796
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.599
<v Speaker 2>us a photo of you and your drink listening, Please

797
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:05.000
<v Speaker 2>to the Halloween Week episodes and let us know your

798
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 2>favorite one so far too, and let us know your

799
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 2>favorite fearful episode as well.

800
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, if you.

801
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Haven't listened to it yet, it's our other podcast spin

802
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:17.119
<v Speaker 2>off where Jacko actually talks about a lot more stuff

803
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.239
<v Speaker 2>out of the scope of true crime, paranormal, supernatural, just

804
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:24.559
<v Speaker 2>some fucked up history. For example, he's got some.

805
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Interesting favorite episode of the New Five or of.

806
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:32.480
<v Speaker 2>All the ten, all the ten out there, I think, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

807
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:33.960
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna just say yeah thirty times.

808
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:39.800
<v Speaker 3>We'd be interested to know that. Yeah, okay, So on

809
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:42.960
<v Speaker 3>that note, well done, Thank you and you know it's

810
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Halloween week, so well

811
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 2>We'll chat tomorrow, you bet you, and until then, stay wicked.