1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,719 my daily show prep with all of the links, become 6 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,359 a patron, go to dpeakclendarshow dot com. Make sure you 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:31,160 much for your support. I just I need to start 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,079 by saying one thing today, what the hell is up 11 00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:39,960 with the City of Charlotte's YouTube feed. I am sick 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,880 of it, absolutely sick of it. I watch the city 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,719 council meetings so you don't have to. You're welcome. I'm 14 00:00:47,759 --> 00:00:54,079 a giver. And it is always breaking down, whether they're 15 00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:58,479 in their chambers, and it's a live feed coming through 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,840 the YouTube from you know, fixed cameras in a fixed 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,079 studio being pumped out. This is not rocket science, okay. 18 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:13,599 And then today they took their show outside so they 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,120 could show off the PSS Security vehicles. PSS is the 20 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,840 contractor for the Charlotte Area transit system and they've got 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:28,280 themselves a couple of sweet sweet UTVs and bikes and such, 22 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,680 and so they put them all out there, these black 23 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:36,159 bikes with white letters on them, and black little SUVs 24 00:01:36,239 --> 00:01:45,079 and UTVs and white letters say pss security. Is this 25 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:48,640 the militarization thing that the left was always concerned about. 26 00:01:48,719 --> 00:01:50,959 Is everybody on the left okay, with the site of 27 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,959 these vehicles because they look kind of like military vehicles. 28 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:55,519 I just want to put that out there too, Okay. 29 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,920 So when I saw that they were outside, I'm driving 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,159 into work. I pull up on the phone so I 31 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:05,200 can monitor this news conference on the way in before 32 00:02:05,239 --> 00:02:08,000 I can get into the studio. Because it started at 33 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,759 eleven am. This was the bike and UTV rollout briefing. 34 00:02:13,479 --> 00:02:15,080 That was what they called it. I did not make 35 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:21,400 up that headline. They called it this. And I knew 36 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,599 when I saw that this thing was taking place outside, 37 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,599 I said, oh, this feed is going to be so 38 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:29,919 jacked up, so jacked up. And I was right. I 39 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,000 was right. It just crapped out multiple times and then 40 00:02:33,159 --> 00:02:35,080 just stopped. And now you go to the YouTube page 41 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,919 and you only get the last like one minute of 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,319 Ed Driggs when he made a late appearance councilman. Ed 43 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,759 Driggs that's the only thing that loads up right now. 44 00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:47,919 It's just ridiculous. But luckily I am a professional. I 45 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,759 have been doing this a long time, so I knew 46 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,759 that the City of Charlotte also has a Facebook page. 47 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,919 So I went over to the Facebook and look at that. 48 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,919 They've got themselves recording on the Facebook, I guess because 49 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,960 it's streamed to Facebook as well. And it ran and 50 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:19,199 they took questions. And from a PR damage control crisis 51 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:25,479 management standpoint, what should have occurred here was you stand 52 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,599 up there and you answer every question until every reporter 53 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,680 has no more questions to ask. That did not happen. 54 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:37,560 They cut the questions off. They gave a limit. I 55 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,840 think they were probably shooting for half an hour. It 56 00:03:39,879 --> 00:03:42,520 went forty minutes, and so they were like, no, no 57 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:46,599 more questions, no more questions. Meanwhile, reporters are still shouting questions, 58 00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:50,000 and then the mayor closes it out by saying something 59 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:56,599 completely ridiculous, like, thirty seconds after they shut down the questions, 60 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,759 she says, that's why we came out here to answer 61 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,199 all your questions. But you didn't answer all their questions. 62 00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:08,280 They're literally still screaming them at you. Alrighty, So there 63 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,000 was a chunk here that I have not been able 64 00:04:10,039 --> 00:04:11,840 to view because I was on the road and I 65 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,160 couldn't get the YouTube live stream. And no, I'm not 66 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,959 going to you know, text and drive and try to 67 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:22,639 find the video feed while I'm driving. So there's a 68 00:04:22,639 --> 00:04:25,079 portion I missed. So this is going to be new 69 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,680 information for me as well as you. So here is 70 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,399 I have a suspicion from what I have already heard 71 00:04:34,759 --> 00:04:37,600 that there are going to be some nuggets in here 72 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:43,879 that I shall be able to mine. Here's Mayor Violiles. 73 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: Thank you for being here today. 74 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 75 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: I want to recognize the members of the Charlotte City 76 00:04:50,199 --> 00:04:53,839 Council as well as the members of the MTC that 77 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:56,639 are here today, So raise your hand if you're I. 78 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,079 Speaker 1: Don't care about that, let's skip ahead. 79 00:04:58,439 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: You know that I I have been in this situation 80 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,480 before and having to have this loss by my arena. 81 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,360 It's been a terrible time for all of us. We 82 00:05:10,439 --> 00:05:14,399 know the violence was on our like rail, but we 83 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:19,199 also know that our city is mourning this loss and 84 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,920 will likely never forget it. No one in Charlotte should 85 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:30,000 feel unsafe about getting to work, school, or home to 86 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:36,439 their family. Safety has been and will continue to be 87 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,720 our top priority. And we have been working with the 88 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:45,360 White House, our federal offices and assistants and all of 89 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,160 this that we want to do. We definitely want to 90 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:53,240 be sure that we are taking the right steps forward. 91 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,160 All Right. 92 00:05:55,079 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes I get the sense, because I've been in this 93 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,439 industry for a while now, sometimes I can get a 94 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,839 feel for whether or not somebody has read the speech 95 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,279 before they are delivering it, and maybe they like kind 96 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:11,120 of skimmed it a little bit. Like famously, Pat McCrory 97 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,079 would never like they would give him a speech and 98 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,160 like he usually wouldn't even read it. And I've talked 99 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:22,079 to Pat McCory, the former mayor, former governor, and so 100 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:24,319 like he would have people write speeches for him and 101 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:25,959 he would be like, yeah, this isn't very good, and 102 00:06:25,959 --> 00:06:27,519 he would toss it, he would wing it, or he 103 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:30,439 would write his own speeches. And if you write your 104 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,560 own speech, you're going to remember it better because it's yours. 105 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,319 It's written in your voice. And so far right out 106 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:42,439 of the gate here, I'm wondering if somebody else wrote 107 00:06:42,439 --> 00:06:49,759 this for her, because she's she's mispronouncing just normal words, 108 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,560 And yeah, I'm not really clear as to why that's occurring. 109 00:06:54,879 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: We've expanded the jurisdiction of our transit security provider, Professional 110 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,600 Police Services PSS, known to most of us, so that 111 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:11,000 they can patrol more of our transit facilities and adjacent areas. 112 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: Oh, thank goodness, Oh. 113 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:18,279 Speaker 3: The Charlotte Transit Center, rail trail, among others are all 114 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:25,800 now included. KATZ has been able to add additional patrol units, 115 00:07:25,839 --> 00:07:30,800 including bike teams and urban terrain vehicles. These are not 116 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,399 things that we're promised. These are the things that we 117 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,040 are doing. These steps are in motion. Right. 118 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:39,439 Speaker 1: This was from Charlotte City Council meeting what week ago, 119 00:07:39,439 --> 00:07:43,360 two weeks ago, where they expanded the contract to do this. 120 00:07:43,439 --> 00:07:46,360 Then it was unanimous vote. And again she is reading 121 00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:50,879 this right off of a piece of paper in front 122 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:52,160 of her. 123 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:58,399 Speaker 3: Our city departments, CATS leadership, and federal and state partners 124 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:03,480 are sitting at the same table, sharing information and coordinating 125 00:08:03,519 --> 00:08:05,160 and collaborating. 126 00:08:04,439 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: Each step of the way. 127 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:12,519 Speaker 3: Safety is taking care if all of us work together. 128 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: And I want to be clear that I hear often from. 129 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,759 Speaker 3: Our neighbors, our residents, the people that live in this 130 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:27,639 great city who just want to feel safe. 131 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: Turn that page. 132 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,039 Speaker 2: I live in the city. 133 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: I've lived in this city since I was in college, 134 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,879 and I understand what it means to be safe. 135 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: I take this personally. 136 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:45,799 Speaker 3: I want my grandchildren to grow up and be a 137 00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:48,759 part of this city, and that means that we have 138 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,080 to change and make things possible for them and the 139 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:56,080 next generation and the next generation after that. We owe 140 00:08:56,159 --> 00:08:58,600 that not just to those of us that are here today, 141 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,840 but wed us, to IRENA's family, and to every person 142 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,960 that ever thought about we should ride the bus or 143 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,279 the train for whatever reason. I'm committed to this work 144 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:15,120 and we won't stop until our system is as safe 145 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,440 as it can possibly be. Part of making sure the 146 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:24,600 system is safe is making sure that everyone who uses 147 00:09:25,039 --> 00:09:28,679 the system needs to pay their fair share. 148 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: Everyone in this region. 149 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,039 Speaker 3: Is being asked to support the transit system with the 150 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:42,320 one Sense Mobility referendum on November fourth. If our community 151 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,840 invest in our transit system, then our writers must pay fares. 152 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,360 The MTC members have spoken at length regarding the need 153 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,679 to increase fair enforcement and reduce fair invasion. 154 00:10:00,519 --> 00:10:02,279 Speaker 1: Wait what fair invasion? 155 00:10:04,759 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 156 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: Evasion, I think is what she probably meant to say, 157 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,360 or maybe the AI generated speech said invasion, or maybe 158 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:14,559 her staffer who wrote it said invasion, or maybe she 159 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,480 just messed it up fair evasion not invasion. You know, 160 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,080 stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, 161 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,559 to understand experiences. 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I don't know if 182 00:11:36,519 --> 00:11:41,679 that's obvious, but it does raise some doubts. This speech, 183 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,879 this is from anonymous the speech wow, just wow, nine 184 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,519 eight zero number says she is so very bad at 185 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:54,440 this good grief, and Brian says cats will not be 186 00:11:54,519 --> 00:11:58,799 safe until the streets are safe. All right, let's pick 187 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,240 it back up here. This is Mayor vy Lyles, mayor 188 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:07,159 of Charlotte, at this press event talking about the new 189 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,960 bikes and utility vehicles that the private contractor will now 190 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:16,240 be able to ride around the rail trail and the 191 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,080 go between the different stations and stuff. And by the way, 192 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,320 the media is not there for the vehicles. Okay, they're 193 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,799 not there. This is okay. If this was if the 194 00:12:28,879 --> 00:12:32,000 murder of Arenas Zoritzka had not happened, and this was 195 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,279 just an event like, hey, we've got some new vehicles 196 00:12:34,279 --> 00:12:36,960 we're rolling out, this would be something that news departments 197 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,639 would send a single photographer to. They would what they 198 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,120 call spray the event, they would just go and just 199 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,879 shoot a bunch of video, get some shots. They'll, you know, 200 00:12:45,879 --> 00:12:47,799 one of the guys will get on the bike and 201 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,679 ride around and they'll shoot some of that video. It's 202 00:12:50,879 --> 00:12:54,919 just b roll for a voiceover during the newscast. Okay, 203 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,200 that is the if they even send anybody at all 204 00:12:58,519 --> 00:13:02,799 to cover the event. Okay, So the only reason that 205 00:13:02,879 --> 00:13:06,159 everybody is there at this press availability is because of 206 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,600 the murder and the safety issues and the crime on 207 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:12,240 the buses and on the trains. And now you've got 208 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,519 the local FOP requesting that the National Guard be brought 209 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,080 in to help the Charlotte mcklaburg police officers because the 210 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,840 department is understaffed. So that's why everybody is here. But 211 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:30,519 she's she's talking here about fair invasion or evasion is 212 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,720 what it is. It's not invasions what she said. 213 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: I and the MTC are committed to this work. I 214 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,279 plan to work with members of the MTC to introduce 215 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,200 a resolution at our next meeting assuring that we are 216 00:13:47,399 --> 00:13:51,639 actually going to have fair evasion and working towards making 217 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,720 sure everyone pays fair share of our transit system. 218 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,799 Speaker 1: Okay, oh my gosh, that's not a resolution to ensure 219 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,120 you have fair evasion. We don't want fair evasion, we 220 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:10,360 want enforcement. Who wrote this speech? This makes me feel 221 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,360 like we're bush league, you know, I feel like we're 222 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:17,720 one of the top fifteen major cities in America at 223 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,600 this point. We need to get we need to get 224 00:14:19,639 --> 00:14:20,399 our act together here. 225 00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:24,039 Speaker 2: Okay, it won't be easy. 226 00:14:25,039 --> 00:14:28,399 Speaker 3: We'll need to make some investments. But at the same time, 227 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,799 we have to approach this process and this plan for 228 00:14:32,919 --> 00:14:37,440 fair evasion. Because fair evasion is often a symptom of 229 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:41,080 different challenges. We can't ignore that, so we will have 230 00:14:41,159 --> 00:14:43,399 to work out how to best do it. 231 00:14:44,039 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: So. 232 00:14:44,919 --> 00:14:48,039 Speaker 1: In the study of fair evasion that I read last week, 233 00:14:48,799 --> 00:14:52,200 you know who evades the fairs the most, Besides the 234 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:58,639 homeless people, it's actually wealthier people. Wealthier people evade fair 235 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,519 more because the fines if they even get caught, are 236 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:05,519 worth it to them because they will they will not 237 00:15:05,559 --> 00:15:07,200 pay the fare for so long and they didn't they 238 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,399 get caught. It's a one time cost. They're wealthy enough 239 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,919 to afford the fine, and then they'll just keep evading fares. 240 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,799 That's what the study showed from New York City's fair evasion. 241 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,440 And you're going to hear this stat get thrown out 242 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,960 again when I went over all the stats about how 243 00:15:25,039 --> 00:15:31,399 much different systems are losing with fair evasion. Right, it's 244 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,639 usually the people who are lower income and who use 245 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:40,600 mass transit the most. They are the ones who never 246 00:15:40,759 --> 00:15:43,399 evade fairs because they know if they get caught, they 247 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,320 can't come back on and they need the transportation to 248 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:49,600 get to where they need to go. So what are 249 00:15:49,639 --> 00:15:53,320 these challenges that she's talking about? Once again here it 250 00:15:53,399 --> 00:15:58,519 is this whole equity conversation. She's trying to shoehorn into 251 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:02,440 this issue. She just can't help her self. It's no 252 00:16:02,679 --> 00:16:06,759 just if you're riding the train or the bus, then 253 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,000 you pay. That's it. That's the deal. And if you 254 00:16:10,039 --> 00:16:12,480 don't pay, you don't get to ride. And you treat 255 00:16:12,519 --> 00:16:19,320 everybody equally, not equitably, but equally. And by the way, 256 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:24,200 you can buy fares or tickets for like long term use, 257 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,600 for discounted rates like this is part of their structure. 258 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,960 So this is like to me, I cannot explain her. 259 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,000 I just I can't explain her. All right, if you're 260 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,799 listening to this show, you know I try to keep 261 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,559 up with all sorts of current events, and I know 262 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:43,039 you do too, and you've probably heard me say get 263 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,039 your news from multiple sources. 264 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:45,759 Speaker 3: Why. 265 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,879 Speaker 1: Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is 266 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:51,960 why I've been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll 278 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,119 get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage 279 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,599 plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription 280 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,440 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 281 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,720 ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 282 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,640 And this from Robbie from the text line, who needs 283 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,559 bikes and utility vehicles? We need more armed patrol officers 284 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,440 on each car of the light rail that is not 285 00:17:53,559 --> 00:17:54,240 going to happen. 286 00:17:54,759 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 4: That was asked. 287 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: I heard part of the Q and A at the 288 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,839 end of this thing that's not going to happen, we'll 289 00:18:01,839 --> 00:18:04,519 hear it. This is from Deborah. I worked uptown for 290 00:18:04,599 --> 00:18:06,720 almost thirty years. We used to walk to lunch, to 291 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:11,240 the library, department stores, etc. Always felt safe. Recently, I 292 00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:14,680 took my grandson to Discovery Place in broad daylight. As 293 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,240 soon as we walked out the door to go to 294 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,240 the parking deck, a homeless man came up to me 295 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:21,279 and hit me up for money. I felt very vulnerable 296 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:23,200 with a child with me, so I gave him five 297 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,960 dollars just to get him off my case. Uptown is 298 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:29,160 not safe yet, and that's illegal. You're not allowed to 299 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,279 go up to people and start panhandling soliciting. Verbally, you're 300 00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:37,119 not allowed to do that. You can fly a sign, 301 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,440 you can have a sign, but you cannot start soliciting 302 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,640 money from people like that. But yeah, my wife went 303 00:18:47,799 --> 00:18:50,400 with a friend and a little kid. They went to 304 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,599 Discovery Place probably a month or so ago. Same experience. 305 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,559 Our mayor just wants more money to put in her pocket. Okay, 306 00:19:01,559 --> 00:19:05,319 that's from Michelle. I realized that a mayor has limited 307 00:19:05,319 --> 00:19:07,640 capabilities and can only promise so much. But all I 308 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,319 heard in her speech was keeping people safe. Nothing about 309 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,319 keeping these thugs in jail. Governor did say he's going 310 00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:15,559 to make changes with the judges to make sure these 311 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:17,599 guys stay in jail. But with as long a rap 312 00:19:17,599 --> 00:19:20,240 sheet as these guys have, the mayor should say something 313 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,920 about that. All right, Well, we don't know. She's not 314 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,119 done with her speech. She's only eight minutes in. 315 00:19:24,759 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: So. 316 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: Maybe she does address the revolving door of our criminal 317 00:19:31,839 --> 00:19:33,079 justice system. 318 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 3: I want to say, in outreach and education and policies 319 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,119 that meet people where they are, we believe that we 320 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,200 can have a system that is safe. 321 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:45,839 Speaker 2: Now, I don't do this alone. 322 00:19:46,759 --> 00:19:48,519 Speaker 3: You. Many of you have been with us on the 323 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:51,079 ride since that we've been talking about how do we 324 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,839 maintain having transportation initiatives for this great city. And I 325 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,759 want to say to you that I am really proud 326 00:19:58,759 --> 00:20:02,960 that we've been able to dress these issues candidly and openly. 327 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,000 And I want you to do that because I know 328 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,599 that behind me is the co chair of the MTC, 329 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,200 Davidson Mayor Rusty Knox. I would like to welcome him 330 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,920 to the podium to address what the work we've been 331 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,519 doing as MTC leaders. 332 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:22,759 Speaker 1: She kind of strikes me as sort of like a 333 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:27,759 mini Kamala Harris. You know, she's given me that kind 334 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:34,039 of a vibe like Kamala's sister, you know. Anyway, here's Davidson, 335 00:20:34,039 --> 00:20:35,440 Mayor Rusty Knox. 336 00:20:35,599 --> 00:20:38,559 Speaker 4: Good morning. I'm Rusty Knox. 337 00:20:38,599 --> 00:20:41,079 Speaker 5: I'm the mayor Davidson, oles serve as vice chair of 338 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,200 the MTC. He has no speech, and I want to 339 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,160 tell you republic transportation is safe in Mecklemburg County. 340 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,319 Speaker 4: I am from Davidson. 341 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,319 Speaker 5: I'm one of those rare people that was born and 342 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,720 raised in Davidson. My wife is from Charlotte. We come 343 00:20:54,759 --> 00:20:58,000 to Charlotte often. We are on the Blue Line regularly. 344 00:20:58,319 --> 00:21:01,480 I take the express bus to Charlotte from meetings. I've 345 00:21:01,559 --> 00:21:06,440 never felt unsafe. The tragic death of Rina Zariska was 346 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,240 something that was spontaneous and probably unpreventable. 347 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: All right, So hang on a second. If you've never 348 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,240 seen Rusty Knox, the guy stands I don't know about 349 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:20,119 six foot one or so maybe or six foot bald, 350 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:26,119 big gray, fluffy go tee. He's a big guy, so 351 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:30,160 that might that might I don't know, be part of 352 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,359 the reason that you've never felt unsafe. You know, you're 353 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,799 not a ninety eight pound, twenty two year old girl 354 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,920 alone at ten o'clock at night. Maybe just throwing that out. 355 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,519 Speaker 4: There, that's the sad part about it. 356 00:21:45,799 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 5: Can we learn from that, yes, or additional measures being 357 00:21:49,279 --> 00:21:53,039 taken to ensure that the public feels they're in a 358 00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:57,359 more safe environment. Absolutely, But I just want everybody to 359 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,799 know that the MTC is going to do everything in 360 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:04,440 our power, with the resources that we're providing to both 361 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:10,319 PPS and to CMPD to ensure that safety is priority 362 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,960 one for anyone that chooses to use public transportation, but 363 00:22:14,039 --> 00:22:17,559 also anyone that has to to navigate the city. So 364 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,039 just be assured that as long as we're a structured 365 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,119 organization in MTC, we will do all that we can 366 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:28,240 and that message will carry through. If the one sent 367 00:22:28,319 --> 00:22:31,240 sales tax passes in November and the new transit. 368 00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 4: Authority is created. 369 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 5: Safety has to be paramont It has to be the 370 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,799 most important thing besides just making sure that the trains 371 00:22:38,839 --> 00:22:41,200 run on the ten minute cycle and the buses run 372 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,480 on a fifteen minute cycle. 373 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:44,559 Speaker 4: Those are just givens. 374 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 5: I think with the new initiatives that you're going to see, 375 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,559 we're going to be in a better place. But you know, 376 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,279 I will promise you know, the one thing that Mayor 377 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,240 Lyles alluded to was fair evasion. That's one thing that 378 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:02,799 we've got to solve and I think taking those measures 379 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,279 will be first and foremost at our next MTC meeting 380 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:09,319 coming up this month. So okay, with that, I'm going 381 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:14,160 to defer to City Manager Marcus Jones at this time. Again, 382 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,160 thank you for being here, thank you for the interest, 383 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,720 and know that you can reach out to myself and 384 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:21,039 the other board members if you have any further questions. 385 00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: Thank you, so thank you. Mayor and Mayor. 386 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 6: I'm Marcus Jones, city Manager of Charlotte, and I wanted 387 00:23:31,559 --> 00:23:35,559 to start off by just saying how important important public 388 00:23:35,599 --> 00:23:37,240 safety is to our city. 389 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,599 Speaker 4: It's what we do. 390 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,559 Speaker 6: The City Council has spent the better part of the 391 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,079 last year and a half having discussions around public safety, 392 00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:47,400 and which is very clear is that while there are 393 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,559 many things that we can do, there's more that has 394 00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:54,519 to be done. We have multiple city departments and multiple 395 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:58,680 agencies that play a role in safety. But in terms 396 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,880 of the City of Charlotte, about forty percent of our 397 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,200 general fund budget is solely for police, says forty percent 398 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:09,759 of our general fund budget supports police. 399 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 4: When you add fire. 400 00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 6: To it, it's about sixty percent of our general fund budget. 401 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,400 Over the past several years, we have made tremendous investments 402 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,440 in public safety, and we would go back to even 403 00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:25,720 twenty nineteen. What I do is I have opportunities with 404 00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:29,400 our Public Safety Pay Plan Committee, which is made of 405 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,119 a police and fire and we talk about what's important 406 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,720 for attracting great people in public safety as well as 407 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:42,759 retaining them. So since twenty nineteen, we have increased the 408 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,960 starting salary for police by thirty four percent and the 409 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:50,720 top out salary by forty one percent. What we had 410 00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:52,799 to do is undo a bunch of things that happened 411 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:57,759 and during the Great Our recession where it took longer 412 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,160 for police officers in firefight just talk out. So we 413 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,720 were able to have through different policies and initiatives and 414 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,759 police officers. Why is he talking about tops out earlier, 415 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,720 which is very significant for CMPD, But we also did 416 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:16,119 things around second and third shift where we provide it 417 00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:17,519 more funding. 418 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: All right, why are you going over the pay plans 419 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,079 for CMPD right now. I understand that that is a 420 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,319 part of the public safety debate and discussion, but that's 421 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,400 not part of this particular issue. This is specific to 422 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,039 the Charlotte Area transit system. But if you would like 423 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,599 to talk about public safety at a larger level, then 424 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:45,880 I'm your huckleberry for that. How about you start with 425 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,200 some I don't know observations about the court system. How 426 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,039 about that? How about the fact that when the cops 427 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,759 arrest somebody like the Carlos Brown Junior fourteen times and 428 00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:01,559 they just keep releasing him back out into the public, 429 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:07,079 and he is just one example of hundreds over the years. 430 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,759 Do you have any comments on the court system that 431 00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:14,240 makes it more difficult for your officers to do their jobs? 432 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:17,319 And how about this. You're trying to retain officers for 433 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,000 longer periods of time so you don't lose the investment 434 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:22,119 that you made in training them up and stuff and 435 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,519 hiring them. You know what, You know what makes a 436 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:28,960 cop want to leave feeling like the work they do 437 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:34,880 doesn't matter? Because, as we heard in the hearing on Monday, 438 00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:40,160 when Congress came to town, you got cops that are arresting 439 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,200 people and the guys are walking out back onto the 440 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,640 street before the police have even finished the paperwork, So 441 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,599 I don't know. Maybe he'll address that. We'll see. Here's 442 00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:53,200 a great idea. How about making an escape to a 443 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,759 really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina? Just 444 00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,319 a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of Asheville 445 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,240 is your case. 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Do 465 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,799 people not work? So, Russ says the PSS vehicle presser 466 00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:19,200 reminds me of the saying all hat no cowboy. I 467 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,240 thought it was all had no cattle, All had no 468 00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:27,160 cowboy anyway. City leaders seem to misunderstand the state motto 469 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,720 and think it's inverted to seem rather than to be right, 470 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,319 because the state motto is actually the Latin for to 471 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:39,720 be rather than to seem goodwa who says Charlotte has 472 00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:41,880 become the latest goose that laid the golden egg and 473 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,119 Democrats have been able to take complete control with the 474 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,799 help of people, including many Democrats fleeing their own mess 475 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:51,079 and blue states. Charlotte only survives the horrible mismanagement because 476 00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:53,640 so many other places are worse and provide an almost 477 00:28:53,759 --> 00:29:00,319 endless supply of new suckers, error residents and taxpayer while 478 00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:03,880 most of the native Charlotteans that helped make Charlotte so 479 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,680 attractive have long ago fled with all Ponzi schemes. This too, 480 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,400 will end, and end very badly if people don't wake 481 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,839 up and vote to save Charlotte from these incompetent and 482 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,119 often corrupt lunatics running the city. I've said this before. 483 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,480 It's a Jordan Peterson quote that you know, an un 484 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:30,759 guarded store of value will succumb to parasites. That's a truism. 485 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,559 And the City of Charlotte and its institutions have value 486 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:43,319 and if they are unguarded, they will be devoured. Mark says, 487 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,480 Viiles has been doing her best Kamala Harris impression for 488 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:50,200 as long as she's been in politics. Now her chickens 489 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,240 have come home to roost. It's all a distraction, It's 490 00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:57,039 a Pete tweet, she says. The audacity of the mayor 491 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,839 using the murder of the arena Zerutzska to push attacks 492 00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:04,359 in increase for the light rail. Well, and look, part 493 00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:10,640 of it is that the local leadership is very concerned 494 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:18,279 that the magnitude of this story, the international reach of 495 00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:22,200 the Arena Zarutzka murder story, that that is going to 496 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:29,240 jeopardize the referendum. That's what is animating a lot of 497 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:33,079 these decisions. There's a bit of a panic because the 498 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,680 vote is just what a month away, and they've got 499 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,519 to assure everybody we're taking it seriously. We hear you, 500 00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:45,119 you are seen. We are going to do all of 501 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,799 this stuff. But if you approve the one cent, we're 502 00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:53,440 going to make it into this different entity, this Transit Authority, which, 503 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:56,559 by the way, like now we have, there are going 504 00:30:56,599 --> 00:30:59,519 to be elected representatives I don't believe if I'm remembering correctly, 505 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:02,960 They're going to be appointees that govern and manage the 506 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:08,240 transit authority. So there will be another layer of insulation 507 00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:14,799 between the rider and elected officials. Right now, the MTC, 508 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,440 those are all people almost all are elected officials from 509 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,640 the towns, from the county. They're city council members, the 510 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,039 mayors there. So you've got elected officials that are on 511 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,839 the MTC. So that model is going to change. Like 512 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,000 this may be the most responsive I know, I know, 513 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,960 but this may be the most responsive governing model between 514 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,720 the two so just keep that in mind when you're 515 00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:48,839 going to vote. Does this Rusty Knox mayor feel it 516 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,519 is safe for his wife to ride the rails alone? Yeah, 517 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:55,680 because he said he feels safe. Jeff says, Charlotte Transit 518 00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:58,880 is spending eighteen million for security. For that price, we 519 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,240 should be able to provide an security to keep people 520 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,200 from riding free and getting stabbed. I don't think transit 521 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,599 security was a priority until now that it's become a 522 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:14,160 national story. I tend to agree with that. Yes, let 523 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,799 me see here. This is the city manager, Marcus Jones. 524 00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:18,200 We'll see how much he's got left here. 525 00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:20,039 Speaker 6: We hadit more recruit classes. 526 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,039 Speaker 1: He's still talking about. 527 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:22,559 Speaker 4: We're seeing police. 528 00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:27,559 Speaker 6: Retention trend in the right direction, and we're seeing vacancies 529 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,960 trend in the right direction also, but no data. But 530 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:34,519 also we've taking some steps to make sure that those 531 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,440 jobs and positions that police officers were handling, for instance, 532 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,759 like a captain who was overseeing the nine one one center, 533 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,640 how can we change those to civilians? And we were 534 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,400 able to take vacant positions, change those to civilian positions 535 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,880 so that we can have more officers patrolling the streets. 536 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,440 You may have seen the sixteen civilian crash investes that 537 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,200 we have again freeing up ours for police officers to patrol. 538 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,440 The same thing with forty sworn faked musicians that we've 539 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,960 converted into civilian positions. We will continue to work with 540 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,480 our partners. During the past several months, we've worked with 541 00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:20,720 community leaders, We've worked with the business community with a 542 00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:25,240 focus on a comprehensive plan as relates to public safety. 543 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: So question, he initially said that forty percent of the 544 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,079 budget goes to CMPD goes for police personnel. Right, so 545 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,480 at forty percent of the budget, does that include the 546 00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:42,279 civilian crash investigators? Do they count as as a CMPD 547 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,119 line item or is that something separate? See this is why, 548 00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:50,720 like when I sit at these press conferences, I bristle 549 00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:52,680 when they tell me we're only going to take five 550 00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,480 or six questions, because when you say stuff like this, 551 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,119 I've got tons of follow ups or follows up, follow up. Yes, 552 00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:04,319 all right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 553 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,400 so much for listening. I could not do the show 554 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,920 without your support and the support of the businesses that 555 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,079 advertise on the podcast. So if you'd like, please support 556 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:13,800 them too and tell them you heard it here. You 557 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,440 can also become a patron at my Patreon page or 558 00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:20,159 go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much 559 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:26,639 for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.