Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the gimmick.
We are here. It is WrestleMania a week. What a
time to be alive. It's gonna be some good discussion
here technically because we weren't around for it, celebrating our
one year anniversary. Boys, look at that. We've been around
for one year just flew by. So much has happened,
drafts has happened. I can't even recall because it's early
in the morning here, But I am your host. I'm
still the saint. I guess I haven't changed her from Yeah, yeah,
I can't wait for his stand in the liver match.
But no, I'm the hashtag number one CODYE fanboy Tresta.
I'm joined by the new man who is I have
not congratulated him on air or individually, but the new
full time co hosts there at Marvel Alliance or congratulations, David,
how's it going going good?
Speaker 2: I am a Punk's favorite today. I'm you know, so
many options to choose from going into WrestleMania season, but
Punk gets his main event, so I'm happy.
Speaker 1: I'm David's favor. Take Brent off Marvel Liance. I owed
him something but you know, it's funny, like the way
the world works. It's like we mean, Chris started it,
and I consider that Brent and Chris's show because they
did it longer. But you and me didn't even know
each other day when it started. And now we've hosted
this together, and now you've taken over for Brent while
he's gone. And uh, but yeah, I'm excited. I listened
every week. I edit of course too, but I'm excited
for it to become your guys show. And you know, Chris,
if you're listening to this, hashtag, cyclops was right, you know,
I know I'm on your team there. But we're joined
by the man who will translate any Spanish interview that
Stephanie Vakir does in the future. Mister s Bubbs, how's
it going today?
Speaker 3: Good? I am in mocks. We trust for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will get there. We I think this will
be a good There's gonna be fun episd because we're
into draft. But I think there's lots of talk about
because we have lots of different prints and technically we
actually we talked a little bit about check out. We
did our gmode stream before WrestleMania. We've talked about this.
What we're gonna do is I'm gonna cut because it's
like an eight hour video, there's gonna be four episodes
cut to that of each season will be season one
to five, then so on and so forth. That's when
we all three of ustead of play through of my
GM mode, and then in May we're gonna start up
season two. But what we're gonna do is that's gonna
be once a month. We're just gonna do five weeks.
We're gonna get on stream for about hour, hour and
a half, however long takes to finish it. We're gonna
change some stuff. We're gonna start over because we've got
DLC coming, we got the new titles. But yeah, so
if people think, oh that's a long video, you can
watch it all. But if not, there's gonna be the
four hour or the four episodes, so that all at
least episode one will be up before then. And David
talked about it a little bit then, but on air,
we've never actually heard Davis thoughts about seeing as he'll turn,
and we haven't talked about the promos. We've got tons
of stuff to talk about today. So everything you need
to know is down below. We're just gonna get right
into it because we got lots of stuff. We're doing
the draft. We're doing the draft first because like last year,
we're gonna do restulating predictions Night one, Night two. But
we don't want to maybe show our hand because you know,
main event points, win points, title loss, tyle defenses. We
don't want to say I'll say that draft. No, we're
gonna draft first, and then we're gonna do resume night
one at night two. S pubs. Do you have the total?
I'll see s pubs one last year, so again, congratulations, sir,
kept me from I won three drafts in geek first
could have been four, But I digress. If you don't
have the number, I think I have it somewhere in
the chat.
Speaker 3: But if you have, I think I do. I have
some written down here, but I don't remember. If these
are like the final final ones, I think they are,
but I can read them out. I mean they're in
the order of like that they were in, but I'm
not sure if these are the I guess they probably are,
so I can read them out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 3: So David had on Thoy sixteen points by the end.
Trevis had one thousand and eighty eight points and I
had one thousand, two hundred and thirty three points.
Speaker 1: All I needed was for Seampunk to win the fucking chamber,
you know, And at this point, we're gonna wait till
we get to predictions and everything like that point he
just should have because you know, we got made. We
got lots of stuff. Talk about damn site because there's
been so much that's happened since the scene the heel turn,
and a big thank you, as I guess I should
have said too. This is going after wrestling, because we're
doing three episodes. This week, We're doing this episode and
then just like last year, after Night one ends a
Night two, we'll be on air live be a little later,
so we'll be mega long episodes, but we're at least
gonna break down happen, and then in May we're gonna
be doing bi weekly. We don't have a set schedule,
but at least always assume that one episode is gonna
be after a WW pay per view and then the
rest will kind of figure out throughout between news or
other shows and whatnot. And yeah, we're going buy weekly
a big thing. Everyone listens, listens, uh, the Heel Turn
episode and the World Run episode is the fourth and
fifth biggest episode for Geek Versus of this year. So
that's why we're going by weekly. We thank you very much,
and we'll see what happens. We'll recalculate in a year.
But yeah, we got lots to talk about and that's
gonna help because when we're by weekly, we won't miss
as much either. So how we didn't discuss this? How
are we doing this draft wise? Are we doing a
are we going GM mode loser to start? I know
s Bub's probably not want that he's number one, but
I don't know where where are we do we have
a preference.
Speaker 3: I'm fine with whatever way you guys want.
Speaker 1: What about you, David, what do you want to do?
Speaker 3: Uh? It?
Speaker 2: It goes in my favor to go NFL style like
we did.
Speaker 3: I think the last time we did, we did wal
spin to pick whose draft order we would do, and
I think it landed on wheelspin. So we did another
reel spin for the actual order.
Speaker 1: Right we did. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm fine to let
it go the draft GM mode way. You know, I've
always tried to pitch us with the Geek first they're
always scared because they don't want to lose pick. But
I'm fine because there's so many people. I'm fine. Uh
And I'm also before S Pubs, so I'm not trying
to say, you know, but this is fine because if
I went next year, I have the same way. So
I'm fine to have David me S Pubs. I'm okay
with that. If that's yeah, because that spubs one last
year he gets the Crad He's he's started, so he's
one to zero against all of us. He's god. That's
if he gets the Undertaker, Street Going or Bianca. So okay,
So as people don't if they don't know, we all
draft ten superstars and then an eleventh spot for our
job or pick. That means somebody that loses we get
points on. But then the ten are people that we have.
Do you have the points increments there? I supobs as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, So yeah, what.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do is we're gonna draft ten. Obviously, if
someone picks a superstar there off, it works like any
other sports draft, and we get points based on wins.
Speaker 4: Title all the point there perfect.
Speaker 1: That's gonna give us the point values and what happens
after we draft these people.
Speaker 3: So so it's it's all match based pretty much. So
if you show up and have a promo, that doesn't count.
So zero points for no match obviously, one point if
you're in a match, two points if you win a match,
three points for a successful title defense, four points if
you win in a stiffy relation match. That's not it
has to be an actual stipulation, not just triple threat
or fatal four or anything like that. Five points if
you win a title, fifty points if you win rumbler
money in the bank. Technically it's a hundred points. I'm
just gonna change that. It's actually one hundred, but I
put fifty because it like doubles on the on the ples.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But and and if you draft a legend or someone
who hasn't debuted yet, that's also one hundred points for
their first appearance. And they must wrestle a match, So
if they just show up in the crowd, that's.
Speaker 1: Not like Honky Man coming wave up to the crowd
or something. Yeah, they got to be a part of
a match. Angle So.
Speaker 3: Then yeah, double points on pl minus four for losing
a title, minus twenty five for a failed cash or
failed rumble title shot or chamber as well, and I
put minus twenty five because technically it could happen outside
of a PL, but if it happens on plio, it's
minus fifty. Yeah, and uh five points for main eventing.
A weekly show also has to be a match twenty
points for main eventing. A PL can negotiate trades or
replacements after after rumble Mania or I guess it would
be a bit more Money in the Bank Survivor Series.
Did we add another one?
Speaker 1: I don't think we did Rumble as well.
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, oh that's on there, Yeah, that's on there.
Yeah yeah, I guess the longest stretch is between Money
in the Bank and Survivor Series.
Speaker 1: Which that one's fine because I feel like we did
Money the Bank and Rumble because it's fun to pick
the people that are in those actual matches, right, Like
we got ideas in the Rumble, Yeah, we got an
ideas in the Money Bank. We're Survivor Series. There's no
big gimmick stipulation match there. It's it's like, okay, who's
in war game? So yeah, I'm happy with those.
Speaker 3: There's the Jobber of the Year for your eleventh pick,
and then that's the opposite. So it's two points for
lost minus one point per win. And I'm thinking if
they win a title or something, that's gotta be like
a minus then or.
Speaker 1: Something absolutely that's not a job or anymore, that's a
bonafi star Seah, I'm fine to add that negative ten
if you win a title, because that's you know, I'll
push your life. Please, let's let's do that. So okay,
at the point.
Speaker 3: What is it? Uh? Oh no, that's it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, perfect? So yeah, as it works, David, you
get first pick. So who is joining your roster this year?
Who's the number one? Who's your Carmelo Hayes? You know
that's gonna be teen later.
Speaker 2: My number one pick is actually right next to me.
I'm gonna go with the QB one over here, mister
Cody Rhoades.
Speaker 1: Two years in a row. When am I gonna get
this man? Two years? I can never get him. I
didn't get him in GM mode. David got him there,
and then that was going last year, and then David
got him this year. Okay, so what am I looking at?
I didn't I prepped this year, So.
Speaker 3: I was not prepped at all.
Speaker 1: This is tough because there's I'm going with It's very
short term.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: Oh man, and I almost won last year. It's just
tough of like when do I pick. I mean, I'm
gonna I'm gonna do it again, going with the heart pick.
Don't know if it's gonna pay off, but this is
like for good karma, number one draft pick for me
two years in a row, going Ria Ripley, gonna take
her oh mine. Yeah, I'm hoping she's not any main
event and I personally don't think she's winning the title
this weekend, but maybe she will just to piss off
the the IWC. But I'll go Ria Ripley. She almost
got me there, and plus last year there's a chance
I could have won. Last year she wasn't injured. She
got injured and was gone for a wist. I'm hoping
for a healthy year this year. So Riha Ripley. So
that's who I'm picking, and I'm keeping track of these
picks here. So David gott okay, per Okay, Yeah, I
guess you're doing that right, Okay, So I'll just say
it that, all right, Bobs? Who is your.
Speaker 3: Number one pickles? Did it learn from how I won?
Just off pay per view pay per view main events,
like you don't need to wrestle. Cody wrestled like eight
times a year, and he won me this game. So
that's what I'm going with, the greatest of all time
giohn Cina.
Speaker 1: That that's what I was going back and forth because
I agree with you. That is a good pick. I
just he's gonna be gone for all But like you said, he.
Speaker 3: Was fast twenty that's every every four weeks, like twenty points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's for free. That's a good pick. That's
a good pick. All right, David, who's your number two?
Speaker 2: My number two? I am going to go with the
eest of w W Miss Bianco La Bianco. Okay, she's
always good for some solid wins like I.
Speaker 3: Last year, my last year, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year, my strategy was like going for the
champions and things like that, and then remembering most of
the champions outside of Cody don't wrestle a lot. They
just come and they talk and they leave.
Speaker 1: Even Sody talks a lot too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he at least was on most of the ples,
where like Gunter was not. He was like on half
of them and things like that. But Bianca is she's
always there, always performing, always in the title pictures.
Speaker 1: So and she's always just wrestling on Raw SmackDown too,
like the past couple of weeks now because they've been
doing the bill for Ture for Threat, but usually she's
just always wrestling. So, Okay, this one I feel uneasy about,
but I gotta go for some main event points. And
this is a guy that does you know, he talks
a little bit more lately because he's you know, got
some injuries here or there, but he does wrestle still
quite a bit more than other people. I'm picking uh
seth Ron's you know, I give him a lot of
I give him a lot of grief sometimes, but he
is main eventing WrestleMania this week, and well, you know,
we'll talk about he's he's main eventing quotations in my
opinion a WrestleMania. But in our system, we count as
the main event counts as points. And I think he'll
go and my hope is hoping for that he'll turn
and maybe that's like man mainway for predictions, But who
would be a perfect guy to take that off? Jay
us So after a month and just solidify himself, like
you want to get Cephron's heel. That's a perfect way.
So I just think he'll he'll. He's always around, right
barring an injury. So Cephrons, and don't put the freaking
on my list. There no freaking wrong.
Speaker 3: Okay, back to me, I still have the list from
last year, so I'm trying to go sort of based
on that, so I remember who I even go for.
Speaker 1: You're picking maxle here for the return.
Speaker 4: Surprise the next year, yea six seven once.
Speaker 3: Here, I think I'm gonna go with someone who I
feel will probably wrestle a lot even if they lose
their title and was a former number one draft pick.
I'm gonna go with Gunther.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me take him off my list here. Yeah,
good pick. Yeah he could could lose, but yeah he should.
He's gonna make the comeback right or something.
Speaker 4: So yeah, okay, David number three.
Speaker 2: A number three between two minds. If who I want
to pick next, but you know what I will. I
will make this risk and I will take mister see
him punk.
Speaker 1: Oh thank goodness. That is a risky one. That is,
you get the main event of points at least and.
Speaker 2: High risk, high reward. Come on, Punker, stay.
Speaker 1: Healthy, there's a title run in there. Yeah, Okay, I'm
glad because I'm picking this guy. I have, you know,
been a big fan of him as of late. I
said a couple of weeks ago or months ago in
a reviewed episode, he can, I think have a great
match with anybody. He's the moment maker, braun breaker. Now
I do.
Speaker 4: Think I do that.
Speaker 2: That was who I went back and forth between.
Speaker 1: I do think he's losing an icy title maybe coming up,
but I think there's a good shot, whether it's money
in the bank, whether it's trumbled, like I could see
them strapping this guy up the next little while, Like
that's the that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Where I think that's the reason.
Speaker 1: And a perfect way for him to do it in
the fatal four way where he wanted to get the pin.
Whoever's get the pin, it won't matter, like he's he's ready,
like there's not anything for him to do, whether it's
heal or baby face again, he could be the guy
that maybe if Jay Usso wins, he squashes him up,
does the bronck lessner. But yeah, I think, uh the
only my only hold up was for some reason, when
Raw came to Netflix, it took like a month for
him to wrestle on TV. I was very surprised by that,
So I'm hoping that kind of changes a bit more consistently.
But the past few weeks he has been so go
bron Breaker, and hey, I guess if he wins the
title at uh Mania and then he hells maybe he
comes a double champ and he just gets me all
these points and stuff, he just drops it. He pulls
up a kere, he doesn't even he doesn't even lose it,
he just vacates it. But yeah, bron Breaker my new boy.
Speaker 3: I think I'm going to go with someone who m hmm. Sure.
It's hard. There's a lot of good I'm looking at.
I mean, it's weird because we all had like, there's
a lot of people on our like previous draft that
I'm like, I wouldn't draft them now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much can change in a year, you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm want to go with I'm gonna
take it early. I don't know, just just the fack.
I'm gonna take Penta.
Speaker 2: Oh that was my next pick.
Speaker 1: Okay, Penta get wrestle's lock, gets lots of wind, could
be new Icy champs. So yeah, David Plug and repuged
your biking because I got like a little static going
because I would yeah, no, no, I I checked it out.
So dally's the pickause that. No, I'm joking, that's the
all mute you. Let's see here. Oh no, I can't
I mute. You're right, you got your your own powers.
So yeah, so let's see. Okay who pent Okay, took
them up the lifty. I made sure when I did
some prep, I had thirty wrestlers because I know we
had to have thirty where last year I did not.
So I'm hoping that I'm ready here now. So okay,
so we're in for David. But David, you're you're still
muted on like just the stream yard, just a stream yard,
you're muted. Okay, talk down.
Speaker 2: How about uh?
Speaker 1: I think you got the different mic now, yeah, because
it wasn't as clear as the one, like, yeah, I
probably kicked it's statics gone, which is good, but I
think it was the it kicked you back over to
like your headphones or whatnot. Let's see here, because like, yeah,
use your mic lights up right and right now it's
not doing your your light thing.
Speaker 2: There is all right?
Speaker 1: How about there you go you're good. Yeah, so a
little static, but okay, next pick?
Speaker 2: All right, So next pick. Since Penta was my next
pick and that's now off the table, I am going
to go.
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's see if I can adjust this.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm going to go with Chelsea Green.
Speaker 1: Chelsea Green, Okay, Okay, I didn't expect her coming this early.
What's the what's the reason we behind Green? You think
she's gonna hold that title for a bit?
Speaker 2: I think she's going to hold that title for at
least a couple more months, uh before her band of
people implodes on her and she ends up losing it then,
So I'm gonna get a couple of dodgy title defenses
between now and then. So I'm thinking about the points.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I was gonna say, David, maybe go like
I maybe refresher going now because it's still it goes
in waves of static, it's like quiet, but then it
comes up a little bit, so I'm not sure if
there's like a lose connection somewhere or something like that.
And then yeah, we'll see. But okay, so he picked
Chelsea Green. Can so I did have her on my
list a little lower down, but maybe maybe that's a
sneak pick by David. I did not have that, but hmm, okay,
I'm kind of torn by these two, but I had
I had one higher on the list, but I think
I'm gonna go for the lower one. Just just a
gut feeling. I'm I'm gonna pick Charlotte Flair. I think
think Charlotte has to win that title. I think we'll
talk about I think she's gonna win the title, and
I do think it's gonna be a lengthy run where
a couple of other other people like they could win
the title or they might be losing it soon. I
think she's gonna have it, and Tiffany could even be
your later. But I think I think sure, and Charlotte's
been wrestling a bit more often now. She wrestled befat
Wrestle Meach and also she's got Tiffany coming up, so
she does like to talk. That is my worry. But
I do think there'll be some more matches and stuff.
But maybe maybe it's a bus pick. I know last
year for s Bubbs at the first it was a
bus pick for you because she was just Andrew Sooner. Yeah,
but no, I'll put my hand on Charlotte, hoping this
works out for me.
Speaker 3: So okay, for me, there's two on between one of
fields playing gonna wrestle more than the other. I just
want to have the last year having the ones I had,
having the ones I just want to have worked out
for me. So I think I'm gonna go with that,
and I'm gonna pick EO Sky.
Speaker 1: I was wondering that she might be a little sooner
than that. Yeah, I think she's gonna probably keep It's
a fifty to fifty for me because I see people
doing the Bianca pitch, but like, I think I'm lean
the EO. Also we'll get more into predictions. But if
she keeps it, I think she'll have it for a while.
I don't see her losing it right away. And she
wrestles a lot too, So yeah, EO Okay, where is
she on my list here? Okay, take her off? Okay,
she's three downs so she was coming up for me.
Oh and then I have another, So I gotta wait
till David if I got another another one recaps on
our list so far here David Wells, We're waiting for David.
Speaker 3: David has Cody, Bianca punk and Chelsea, you have Rhya,
Seth Braun and Charlotte and I have seen a Gunther,
Penta and EO.
Speaker 1: Okay, pretty good list so far. So waiting for David
to come back. We will let's see how because I
I I was more prepared. How you on your Jower list?
Do you have any people that you're eyeing up for that?
Or it's gonna be uh on the spot because last
year it felt like I didn't prepare good enough and
it screwed because I picked a Elton Prince and he
really got me. He wasn't on TV and then he
didn't lose a lot.
Speaker 3: He like, yeah, I'm trying to think. I don't know
who I would go for my job really, David.
Speaker 2: Sorry, okay, so what picks did I miss? After Chelsea?
Speaker 1: Oh one second, what were you think of s Bubs
for your job?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'll have to think of like recent
shows who that many people who like lose that often
like just.
Speaker 1: Like consistently, Yeah, that's a less triple H thing. I
feel like you have them. But still, but so David,
I picture at Flair and then s Bubs picked that
EO Sky So those two are off the board. Two
anchors of the women's division.
Speaker 2: So good choices, good choices.
Speaker 1: You're halfway point choices now.
Speaker 2: Right, So next I I'm gonna risk it here. I
don't know, I am going to go with U l
a night.
Speaker 1: Well, you think it's a risk. He wrestles a lot,
like you're just thinking he's dropping that title, come.
Speaker 2: Drop dropping the possible dropping of the title.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was Honestly, I'd rather pick people who I
know are gonna lose the title because that means it'll
wrestle more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that later like losing.
Speaker 3: I think losing like ten points for that's an investment
in points.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I got again. I'm stuck. But there's one.
I'm there's one. No one's talked about yet, and I'm
thinking of about it. But I just wonder if there's
a reason for it. But I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna
take him. I'm gonna take the man. I'm gonna take
Maine event. Jay. So here's list here here Jerker. So
here's here's my pitch though, is he might not get
a lot of my events, but that man wrestles. You
talk about consistent wrestle. He wrestles a lot. There was
that week where it was Theory Waller the tag team,
like he's somebody that always because they know he's gonna
go in there. They want the entry.
Speaker 3: Austin Theory World title match.
Speaker 1: Maybe at this point, who knows. So again, he could
and I'm not even know Harmerson convinced he's winning on Saturday.
He's Night one, right, I think they talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he's the curtain jerker of Night one.
Speaker 4: That's how you get mine on the start in the show.
Speaker 1: Right, because he if he fails WrestleMania, yeah, that's time
with Charlotte. You I could be done a lot, but
I'm at least with Jay Charlotte. Who knows but Charlotte
and confident is gonna win that title. Jay, even if
he loses, I'm confident throughout the whole year, he's gonna
be wrestling. He could they get even though he got
Royal Rumble. They could piss everyone off and still give
him money to the banking and have him do a
cat like Jay is gonna consistently stay over, sell out
like it's wrestling.
Speaker 3: You might honestly might get more like weekly show made events.
Like I could even see him defending the title like
on Rock and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: There's always a chance him and Jimmy get back together
at some point year, and you know if they do,
they'll just strap him up right away. Like Jays is
just gonna be a guy that I think can consistently
get me points. Like I said, I don't think the
main event points, and he could lose the cat like
the Rumble spot, he could lose the title again. I
could even see that he could lose that title the
Monday Raw after, like they could zach ryer him. But
I think I don't get it wrong. I could see
them doing it. They get the.
Speaker 2: Pop will riot oh I love right.
Speaker 1: But again, he wrestles consistently, So that's what I'm going
for right now. So Jay Uso is my halfway pick.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna go with someone who do you
guys haven't mentioned. Mike Piel has been having a great year,
and I honestly feel like she could win the title
this year. I'm gonna go with Naomi Oh.
Speaker 1: I definitely had her coming up. She's those promos. I
I think she's I don't know, because obviously got the draft,
so she could switch brands. I think at some point
she's winning some title. I guess I could always be secondary,
but I feel like if she consistently keeps this work up,
she could be going to the main event picture and
maybe I would not. There's one scenario of if EO loses,
Bianco has the title, that'd be the perfect person to
take that title off Bianca would be Naomi. That'd be
a really good story. So no, I think I think
that's a that's a good sleeper pick. She's gonna do
some good stuff this year, I think, so. All right, David, all.
Speaker 2: Right, next up, I'm going to take uh, Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 1: Drew McIntyre, mister former eyepatch himself.
Speaker 2: What's what he always in the main event scene.
Speaker 1: He's set for WrestleMania. That's when he always bench him Like.
Speaker 2: Nope, Yeah, So he's gonna be on PLS. He's going
to have matches on the big stage. So yeah, I
will definitely go that direction.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, these next two picks I really want,
so I hope people don't take him, but I'm gonna
dip into Aspub's territory a little bit, but not as bad.
I'm gonna pick Randall Keith Orton here I think it's
a lock that he's obviously minivating backlash, and when he's around,
he does wrestle like I won't say consistently, but a
lot more than other people. Like since he's been back,
he wrestled Mellow on SmackDown. He just had the tag
team match with La Knight. I'm I'm assuming he's gonna
get something WrestleMania like. I think he's a guy that's
like a bi weekly consistent He's always around and he's
always in some sort of picture. So even then I
might get those backlash points. I don't think he's winning
any major titles, and I think other than maybe a
War Games, that's kind of it for him, made eventing.
But I can always maybe drop him later if he
kind of peters out. I just think for the first
half of our or the first quarter of our draft,
he'll be a good point getter. So going for Randy
Orton right there?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Who I want next? There's I mean, there's two people
I'm thinking of who are not on any of our
lists this past year.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, but do I want.
Speaker 3: Them more than someone who will actually get me points
out of them?
Speaker 1: Tough thing. It's either the home runs with the hits,
you know, like, what do you want see?
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go with someone last year who
also got me a lot of points, and they do wrestle
a lot, and they could maybe even win a possible title.
I think I'm gonna go with Bailey.
Speaker 1: Okay, good pick. She's always yeah, consistent points could turn
on Lyra.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel like she's a good candidate for
winning the the IC title at some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that, all right, David number six.
Speaker 2: All right, I am just checking my watch to see
what time it is, cuz my next pick is gonna
be uh miss Tippy Time herself, Tiffy Shretton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had her two next stuff. That's a good one.
Even if she loses the title, she's always gonna be wrestling,
and she could That's one where I can think they
could kind of similar to the Cody situation, like flop
it back to her layer, like her run back from Charlotte,
you know. So yeah, that's a good one, all right,
But that wasn't the next one I was looking at.
My next one is to me, one of the people
can hate or whatnot. I've defended her many times, not
one of my favorites, but a breakout star last year
Live Morgan cuz some of the wrestled consistently SummerSlam is
in her hometowns. I've seen a lot of people theory
crafting like you get her in the title picture maybe,
And I also think there's like I think she's kind
of like Bailey where she could be a shoeing to
win one of those secondary titles. I know pim M'd
be like, oh, well, she used to be made. It
doesn't matter, like you can have people make those titles
mean even more. I do kind of wish we were
rocking with I've seen like, you know, it's great that
she should be on the card. She like the take
title great. I do wish we got the Lyra Rock
Sande Bailey match, but I would have added Living there
as well. Like I think liv need to be on
the cards. So the tag title sure, and I think
they're gonna keep it because as we saw from SmackDown,
there is no tag division, so they just have no
idea what to do, so a classic the women's tag
team are just gonna be a prop on Raquel and
Live just to make them look good and with Judgment Day,
but I really don't think Bailey and Liar are winning
right now. And what team's gonna take it off? Living
Raquel for the time, like until when it gets an
injury or they turn like I don't see when they
I'm not saying they're gonna have a legendary run, but
I think they could have those rocking for quite a bit,
So I'm pretty comfortable with that. She wrestles a lot,
so uh yeah, Live Morgan coming over to the to
re Ripley's side one more time.
Speaker 3: It's I think I'm gonna go with Actually I'm not
sure because I don't know when this person will be back.
Speaker 1: Really, Oh, picking one of those, yeah, final.
Speaker 3: Boss, I've taken worse picks in the past. Are gonna
go with someone who heroes Some say he's a better
wrestler than his brother. I'm gonna go with Jimmy So.
Speaker 4: Okay, Jimmy So US Champion to.
Speaker 1: Future US champion. He's gonna beat Fatu or l A.
Speaker 3: Knight.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 3: The bloodline, lower match.
Speaker 1: The great more of those, that's what we need, all right,
This pick seven right?
Speaker 2: Eight?
Speaker 3: Eight? Eight?
Speaker 2: Okay, David, Yeah, we are already at eight were we're
running down this list. So next up, I am going
to go with miss j Cargill.
Speaker 1: You had her last year, didn't you think?
Speaker 3: I think you? I think you Travis had Okay, because
David had.
Speaker 1: I think, okay, right, you just wrestled. They're getting the
take tam seeing. Yeah. Why why are you picking Jay?
You think she's gonna win some goal this year?
Speaker 3: David?
Speaker 2: I think that she is going to wrestle a lot
of matches. I'm trying to get those points out there,
and I do think that she will be positioned to
run with a mid women's title. I don't think they're
going to strap her with the overall championship. I think
that they are going to pull in aw give her
a mid card and just let her run with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chelsea, Like that's a real for her to fight
off the whole crew there and win it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that's part of my thinking from earlier,
Like after this stuff with Naomi's over, she's gonna do
a little bit of tag team and again with Bianca
just to kind of keep that and then after that
she's gonna go for that mid card title and she's
gonna be the one who uh dethrones Chelsea. So then
they can have a couple little bit of back and
forth and yeah, it all works. My favorite get those matches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, plus the other way around too. If you ever,
if they go to the main title, we said, like
Naomi versus Bianca, you can always get that too, because
we know they're going to do that at some point.
So yeah, no, she she's a good pick. I think
the secondary title runs a good idea because it's always
the claim of like, when she got here she couldn't wrestle.
We were so surprised, like all those rumors backstage. The
US or IC title is a good way to seek
could she actually be ready to like really carry the
ball and not? So that's the nice thing about those titles.
So okay, Jade, Okay, so I'm oh right, you picks Dad.
You picked l A Knight, right, yep? Okay, So he's
off my list as well. Hmm, what do I do here?
I'm gonna pick a Jacob. I think there's a chance
on my watch list Chancy wins, but I agree with
people there's also chance Solo screws in at MANI and
La keeps it. But I think fought too. It's only
a matter of time before they turn them babyface, and.
Speaker 3: Like I think the title you think so.
Speaker 1: The only thing, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Just don't think they do it at Mania. I don't
think they do it at Mania, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm torn, I see either way, because my
only worry about that is for l A. Knight, because
I think they kind of make them. I don't. I
guess I'm kind of worried to you away for Ella
Knight because like if he beats him Ellie, like Fotu's
gonna get a big pop and Ellien Knight just looks dumb,
not dumb, but like he's not the baby face. And
then if they screw a Soul screws him, Ella Knight's
can get booed for the wind. So, as I've said,
we've talked about and the most Internet does I agree
that the US tole should have been the multi man one.
Like to me, it's weird that like even like l A.
Knight versus Jacob, Like I'm sure it'll be good, but
just feels like that's a an odd pairing. But my
thing is, I think Fought is gonna wrestle a lot,
and the babyface is coming, that push is coming, and
I think, yeah, you're gonna see him, especially if he
does at some point, whether it's many or later on,
get the secondary title. I think he'll be a workhorse.
So yeah, I will go with a Jacob Fautu s Bubbs,
you're up next.
Speaker 3: Trying to think. I know my list feels weird, but
at the same time feel good about that. I don't
know pretty much everyone. It's like a big name. It's
been taken from what I see at least of the
past year.
Speaker 2: I mean, you haven't picked Kevin ohen Jad. You can
go ahead and take him.
Speaker 1: Come back rumble thing, you know, No, mm hmm, it's
all the work.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm wanta think of like who's on the shows.
I'm gonna do the classic open up cage match here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got the full roster from a
SmackDown hotel up right now, just to double check.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's I think I'm just gonna go for it.
I'm gonna take Phoenix.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a good pick. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like cover Rustle a lot.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think they're gonna do the same thing as
pent Up, where he's gonna keep wrestling, get him over
and stuff. Yeah. The good thing is he's a better
wrestler than Penta. I don't think his entrance to the
school is Penta. And they tried to literally recreate the
promo Penta gave with Phoenix, and like Penta gave a
better promo, like the Phoenix one was good, but like
Pentas was like that. To me, it was like an
all time.
Speaker 3: Hugged the referee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like no, I need to raise your hand,
not a hug.
Speaker 1: All right, David, you are next to your penultimate pick here.
Speaker 2: All right, So next pick. Most of the people that
I definitely wanted are off the board by now, so
I am going to go with fin Balar Malary.
Speaker 1: You're hoping for that push this year. Now, he's not
gonna be a pin dollar anymore. Sure you don't want
for your jobber pick there, David?
Speaker 2: Uh No, I'm saving someone else for the job or
I know who I want for the jobber Okay, okay,
And I know who I want for my number ten picks,
so that that one I'm saving for special.
Speaker 3: Hey listen, my number ten is also one I'm hoping
so that generally, like it's a it's an out there one,
but I feel like someone could good friend and take
them before me. But I have a backup, just a
kid and someone who mayor I've already.
Speaker 1: Mentioned, Yeah, hey, if you get demon Finbauer back, you're
you're laughing. If they can get that, you'll begin those points.
But okay, hmm, yeah, there's somebody that's just a question
of what what was what was the point value again
for the returning legend or day was returning legend and
debuting star It's.
Speaker 3: Legend return or a ww debut slash return.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well that's why right now I'm gonna go
with You know, we pitched him a couple months ago
to screw codyasm and man, I'm picking Alistair Black. I
think he's gonna get the same Phoenix Penta thing where
for the first few weeks, I don't think he will
actually be in big angle. I think it's gonna be
come back. They're gonna reintroduce him right now. You just title, Yeah,
we'll see he get in there. But Alister Black was
a triple h guy. You watch NXT Black and gold Era,
that was his fucking undertaker. With the entrance, they made
him very dominating and he could go back. Then we'll
see I think he can still go, but I do
think TRIPLEH is gonna try to really push him this
time and see if it works out, and I think
it will. He usually connected with the crowd, hopefully has
his old theme song and not just like Alistair Black
and it's something spooky like the old theme was a banger.
So I think I don't know what's gonna happen to
next year. They could try this and whether Black doesn't
work or the crowd's like I don't care about him anymore,
I have new toys. I think at least for the
first six to seven months, Uh, he will push him
hard to see, okay, what can you know? What can
we do here? And I think he'll just also wrestle
consistently too. But at the same time, who knows, because.
Speaker 3: I mean he could be doing yes.
Speaker 1: Ten weeks straight, Androtti came back, got the you know
a little vignettes, had that's best of seven Carmelo and
then he was disappeared from TV and he's just backstage talking.
So that could be the joke. Like everyone talks about
all the aw talent that they make, like, oh, here's
a big deal. The difference with that is like the
one talks about Androtte and maybe alstro Black is gonna
be the next one like that. We're oh, big push,
but then you know he's just happy to be back
with his wife on the road. But I'm hoping he's
gonna which is funny because like Androde lost the NIXT
title too Black, So we'll see. But I'm hoping for
good things with alst Black. So okayright, sorry, David.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go with rock sam Perez.
Speaker 1: Home for a big year for her? Yeah, yeah, okay,
I didn't have her my list back when I forgot
about her, So you're sure they're gonna take her off NXT.
Speaker 2: My god, I think they.
Speaker 3: I think they finally will.
Speaker 1: All right, David, this is your last pick. I'm sorry
I took that one from you.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, just straight up yanked that one for me.
All right, So I am going to switch scars. Then
I'm gonna go with someone who is tried and true.
I'm gonna go with Montese Ford.
Speaker 1: Montese Ford, he didn't do good for you in the
GM mode, so you're hoping.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how does he not get any chrisma points? It's
Montese Ford.
Speaker 1: They didn't put a good work there, So okay, this
is tough the final pick, hey, because I got a
I got a list of a lot of people here
that are now I think just workers for the most part.
Let's see. I don't think anyone has or I'm gonna
check because this matter, I have backups. No one picked Lyra, right, No,
I'm I'm taking her. I think she's not gonna lose
that title for a bit. I think you're gonna get
the Bailey feud. She's someone that does pretty consistently wrestle.
Well she got the wrestling match. Hell, maybe they hot
Sean do a Bailey Lyra Tech team. I just feel
out of the people I have left, Black was like
my last like okay, that's a surprise, and then the
other surprises I feel like if you're on, and then
the rest of the people I got like pros and
cons where of like oh they could or maybe nothing happened.
I don't know. So yeah, gonna go with Lyra. I think,
barring an injury, even if she loses the ICY title.
I gets your chase to a Bailey like I think
w Triblach has showing that they are a big fan
of her, like they made her the first Icy title holder,
and they made sure she was on Mania. You know,
they didn't make sure, sorry David, they didn't make sure
that Chelsea was on Mania, but they made sure Lyra
was on Mania. So you know, I think they are
a big fan of her work rate, and I think
she'll just wrestle a lot. So Lyra here is ending
out my team here.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go. You know, Travis, that's good
that Alister Black's like gonna get him one hundred points.
I need to ask that I'm going with.
Speaker 1: Russka. Yeah, there you go. That's a good one. That's
when you'll hit your hundred points. I'm unconfident on how
he's gonna do.
Speaker 3: Ye. He may be a W Dowry Speed Champion, but
I'll get one.
Speaker 1: Putting the best of seven for the speed Championship. Yeah,
he get ended up androt but we will see. Okay.
So David, now you get your jar pick. Who do
you think is gonna be taking the most l's possible
this year?
Speaker 2: This one is an easy pick. Mellow is taking the pins.
Speaker 1: I hate that we're in this multiverse or he's the
job or confrontation.
Speaker 2: Just like I don't like it, but it's I mean,
it's the way of it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, it's not wrong. Just god damn. All right,
I'm I'm gonna go with you know, this is the
person I'm happy to pick here because you know last
year and maybe you know, I'll just say it, it's
awesome theory. Last year s Bubs proved proved me semi
wrong with Daman Precy did it over his baybase, even
though I'd say as of late he's not been getting
the same reactions. But at least with Damian, I think
he made it work. Awesome theory. I hate to say it.
Don't want anyone lose their job. I hope he improves
and then like something happens in WWE, But like, I
don't foresee him being a contracted rest of WD in
the next five years. You know, I think it's unless
they just go back to next or he's a trainer.
I just think the boat has kind of sailed here,
and anytime he's on TV's like he lost to jay
Uso in like thirty seconds. Now. I know people are like,
oh see, and Cody went wrong long that's fine, But
if you are a talent they care about you're they'll
make someone else losing thirty seconds. J was so with
thirty seconds, as Michael Cole says to a cross body,
like like Theory was a Vince mc man guy. He
had the ball many times and he dropped it. So
I'm saying Austin Theory, I maybe he'll get a win
when they eventually split him in Waller Up. They didn't
even do that on NXT. They put the feud down
in NXT and thought, okay, this might be the time
where he played out their NXT guys. They didn't even
do it there. They just Opa beat their ass and
then they act like nothing happened and they're back to
losing to j and Jay and Jimmy Like they're perfect
fodder for any tag team. I know they're on SmackDown.
They're un SmackDown, are they?
Speaker 3: Are?
Speaker 1: They on their raw now right? Yeah? So I guess
new day will be Maybe they'll throw him back to
SmackDown Street Profits will beat him a bit like. I
just don't see Theory making any comeback. Really, I see
Waller before Theory making a comeback. But that's my pick.
Austin Theory happened to have you in the jobber spot. Sorry, sorry,
to put you there.
Speaker 3: So I think I'm gonna go with I'm torn between
two because one is like he might take they're both
sort of related, but one is like he might take
losses for the other person. But I think I'm gonna
go with a guy who went from main events to
now my geogra pick. I'm gonna go with solos? Yeah,
with him or Toma Tonga. I was torn, but I'm
gonna go solo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Tonguelo is still hurt. So it's because it's
like he has been wrestling much and then like I
know he's gonna verse fout two. He's gonna lose that,
And I really don't hef versus Randy this weekend. He's
losing that. Like, I don't think he's gonna I feel.
Speaker 3: Like he may just be like a manager too, so
we might not even be that shouldn't pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows, but at least I don't think he's
winning much. So all right, I suppose can you read
out the our final draft lists for the year?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Or until money the band that's when we'll do the
next show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh okay. So David has Cody Bianca, Punk,
Chelsea l A. Knight, Drew, Tiffany, Jade, Ben Montez and
the Jobber, Carmela Hayes, Travis has Ria, Seth Brown, Charlotte, Jay,
Randy Live, Jacob Alistair and Lyra and oh and the
Austin theory is the jar.
Speaker 1: Don't forget, but don't forget.
Speaker 3: Then I have Seena Gunther, Penta Eo, Naomi Bailey, Jimmy Phoenix,
Rock Sand and Russ. A lot of one word names
there and Solis Goo. Most of my list is I
only have one two, three, four four two first and
last name people.
Speaker 1: Well, there we go. We'll track it. It starts this week,
so they'll go home shows to WrestleMania. We'll get them.
Speaker 3: Let's start at Mania.
Speaker 1: Oh we start okay, perfect? Then you start Mania? Yeah no, sorry,
no one's going points for the under the Giant battle Oil.
Speaker 3: Oh actually I forgot what I wanted to say. Last
year we had I think it was ten bonus points
for whoever guessed the amount of superkicks of Jimmy and Jus.
So this time I have something similar to but different.
And this is the rules. It's closest without going over
obviously for your pick here, and it's going to be
how many times during the match, including the entrance. Will
Pentasey said, oh, via.
Speaker 2: Okay, during the match plus entrance.
Speaker 1: Six, I'm gonna go seven.
Speaker 3: I'll go eight. Okay, I was gonna go six, so
I'll just go higher. Hey, now that we don't pick,
I'll say his entrance is minimum two to three already because.
Speaker 2: I had I had two for the entrance. Are we
counting postmatch.
Speaker 3: He wins, Yeah, Sam, I'll say I'll say yes because
it's like a one and four that he wins, so
I'll count it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just think because it's WrestleMania, he's gonna be spamming
a lot, so if he does win, he could spam
a few times, so I'll stick with seven. But yeah,
and I don't think he's winning either. But if you
were to win, then I feel like my my number,
Bus said, So I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's winning, So I'm gonna I'm gonna
stick with my six because I got two during the entrance,
and then you're gonna have to because they're gonna do
the eight k entrance, so you're gonna have one when
he first comes out, and then you're gonna have during
the eight K entrance, So those are guaranteed right there.
Speaker 3: I wish just he might overperform like Jay and Jimmy
did last year that they just like completely blew us
out to the point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did not think that I was gonna to
the point. It's just a literal meme now, Like I.
Speaker 3: Think it got for like seventeen or something like that.
Speaker 2: It was seventeen because I counted.
Speaker 3: Our highest was like I forget who guest ties, It
was like ten or twelve or something like that.
Speaker 2: I remember having the highest, but it blew me out
the water.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's start talking about Now we got all
our predictions off the board or our draft predictor or
draftees off the board, so we can do predictions. So
we're gonna do Night one. David gonna throw you. How
are you feeling this is overall Night one, Night two
going into WrestleMania. How do you think the season has been? Yeah,
we're six days away from Night one. How are you
feeling about wrestling forty one? On the lead up so far?
Speaker 2: I will say that the lead up has been hit, missed,
very bipolar at times. There are matches in moments that
I'm like really looking forward to. Then some that just
feel thrown on there. And I'm also the match card.
The balance of the match card is throwing me off
as well between Night one and Night two. So but
the big money matches, the marquee stuff I am looking
forward to sucks. That main event jay Uso is not
in the main event, but my man the Punker getting
his main event spot. That whole crying moment between him
and Paul Hayman about you get the main event that
was just cinema right there I'm looking for. I'm definitely
now looking forward to Tiffany Stratton versus Charlotte Flair. I
could care less about the war Raiders and New Day
and there's some other matches I could care less about.
The Multiman match for the IC, I think is going
to be surprisingly good, just considering those who were involved
in it.
Speaker 1: You know, like memes aside on fin and everything and whatnot,
and people being like why is Dominic hereabout It's like
they're they're all I think there's I think it's a
good styles clash too.
Speaker 2: He Dom's gonna sell his ass off, He's gonna get
in some some sniveling maneuvers here and there and gonna
get those close calls, but he's gonna sell his ass off,
and then everyone else in that can really just do
work like and then Cody versus Sena, I think is
just going to be a spectacle and I can't wait
to see how the crowd reacts to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is very that That's gonna be very Hogan raw,
because I know people thought that was a scene in Rock,
but it's like I was there alive for both those matches.
That's not Hogan Rock. Like everyone knew how the crowd
was gonna react those like seem was gonna get booed
to fucking Rock, was gonna be the hero, right, So
it's just like, yeah, that's gonna be very interesting. It's funny.
I didn't think about this day when he said the
match bounce when looking Night one tonight too. I know
this happens, but this year, especially like Night one fucking
just trounce his night too. For my excitement, I feel like, yes,
it's so it's it's strange.
Speaker 3: And ob see also we're saying, like which one are
you more excited for?
Speaker 1: Night one? Because so Night one, I guess I'll give
it we won't do the person I've been.
Speaker 3: Saying I've been seeing online people are like night one
looks terrible, Night two is the real show. Like I
think that a lot like people saying like Night one
isn't is disappointing. People are getting scammed on Night one.
Speaker 1: Like I'm I don't understand, Okay, So like if I'm
going win column right, like war Riors versus New Dad,
that to me is like that's in the loss. Jane
and Naomi, I think it's gonna be a fun match.
Jacob and l A Knight, I'm iffy on I just, I'm.
Speaker 2: Just I think it's gonna have some fun with that match.
Speaker 1: I just could see their styles not working, but I
can also see it being good. Tiffy versus Charlotte. That's exciting.
Jay versus Gunther is excited because, like, I think they
will have a good match, and I don't think it's
one hundred percent gun there's winning and whatever. People. I
think some people that say that with the Triple Threat
they hate the Aura farming and like the Rome Reigned
type of style. I think they're gonna have a very
I think that's gonna deliver. I have issues with where
it's placed Canna, Deliver Ray and chud Gable like it's
getting deliver quality. I hate that it's on here. I'll
wait till I get to the match. So and then
night too though, Like to me, Night two is a
two card match for me, it's Cody and Sena and
then the women's triple Thread Davey and Drew. It could
be good, I guess to s Pubs he called this
center discord, I will say it being a street fight though.
Actually that I'll I'll bring it up there because I
think they're gonna have a really good I think I said,
when you put them in the discord s Pubs, the
template they should look at is uh, Triple h Taker seventeen.
That's what they should do. That is one of the best,
most unranged street fights. It sucks because it's on Wrestlmating seventeen,
so people either talk about the TLC or they talk
about Rock and Austin. But that is a great triple thight.
Like one of my favorite spots ever is Jaker lifting
them up for the last ride and Tazi Sledgehamber hit
somebody actually like real life busted Undertaker open like there's
and they had that great choke slam where like that's
what I think they should do. But to me, it's
like Randy, like unless they didn't do a surprise, So
I think it is just gonna be Solo. That's to
be a very Randy gets a hit a pose an
r Kale that is a fair And don't get me wrong,
I think I'm the same way I am would live.
I think Solo should be on this card. He was
a main eventor for six months. I just think he
should have been in the US title with Jacob. And
there's attention AJ and Logan like people know me, I'm
not checked into Logan Paul. I know it will be
an athletic match, but there's no stakes there like everyone's
been meaning about. But Karen Cross is the one who's
like promoting this match more than them. It's kind of
fucking weird. Live Morgan like the tech titles like it
could be good. My worry is they're not gonna give
them time. They're gonna say, hey, ladies, you got ten
minutes with entrances. It's gonna be a very wham bam,
thank you man. And then I think David's right about
the multi man being a very good match, But at
the same time, I could also see them being like,
you guys got twelve minutes, get your shit in, and
that could be that could be fun, or it could
be a cluster where it's like, oh, this didn't work out,
you didn't like there's misques. So I guess just the
matches I'm more invested in, like Charlotte, Tiffy, Jade, Naomi,
Like Naomi and Jade is a great story. That's a
great undercard WrestleMania story. Jay and Gunther the triple threat
like you know, war Day, and even then they didn't
even have that Viking step on there. So for me,
I think Night one's gonna deliver more. And because I
also do see a chance, I think it's gonna be great,
but I see a chance with people be like man
Cody and Sena really underdelivered, like I don't know what
they're expecting. Sina's not been like the like he can
still go, but he's not putting on the old Sena.
And it's like I could see Sina working like Triple
H five because he's a heel now and he thinks
he has to wrestle very slow and with the holds.
I could see Sina doing that and the crowd like
if I'm not sure if you've seen this s S Pubs,
but WrestleMania twenty two Triple H versus John Cena, the
match was on fire because the crowd hated Sina. But
if you watch that match, it's a lot of triple
H drop toll hold, triple H headlocks. Saw it like
a dominal stretch, Like I could see Sina doing the
same thing because they just know they've got a hot
crowd and they can wrestle at this very slow moniacle.
So yeah, Night one for me is I'm definitely looking
more forward to Night Too. Is basically a book in Yeah,
it's start and finish. But s Bubbs, are you where
are you on the nights right now?
Speaker 3: In the build up I have to look at the
exact ones on each night.
Speaker 1: Here, I'll put the image in our our Twitter chat
there And sorry I didn't say I will agree with David.
It's been like a weird build. I don't agree with
people that, oh it's one of the worst ever. They've
not been around many eras of the Vince era, But
I do I think it's I think the reason it's
weirdest because I think last year was like a like
a great a be build, Like I thought Becky and
Rhea was great. The Seth Punk Drew build trounces what
they've been doing with Seth Punk and Roman in my opinion,
you know, like that's different levels. You had the Tag
build and then you had Cody and Roman by themself,
Gonthro and Sammy and all these ones. I'm not mentioning
the matches. It's like the builds were really good, so
it's like six to seven where here I think it's
been like Jade and Naomi. I think Randy and Kao
did have a good build, so unfortunately that's just like timing.
But I also kind of count that. I think Cody
and Cena has been good. It sucks that we still
got one more night with Sina, so we'll see. I've
enjoyed it, but I know some people been iffy on it.
But the rest of the stuff I think has been
very all over the place, not bad, but just underwhelming
at times. I actually know I'm not say the woman's
trible threat. I like what they've done with Eo, Ria
and Bianca, Tiffany and Charlotte. I don't count as a
good build because they had to go shooter style to
get us interested, right, it's not like they planned.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a purposely good deal. Yes, yeah, it's good
for all the wrong reasons. It's good for let's see,
who's gonna shoot in the middle of this match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for me, it's like a sixty to forty
on the batside of a built. But I agree with
many people. This feels very much like Wrestlming thirty one.
We're wrestling thirty one had a very meh build, but
the car delivered. And that's one thing. There's a lot
of talent on the show and the card's going to
deliver one hundred percent, like I other than if it's
like I said, time constraints injury something like that, like
the time constraints that can always mess up a match.
And sure there'll be one dude, right, every wrestlmating has
a JA and Jimmy maybe not ever estlating, but like
there'll be something on here where we're like, eh, that
could be New Day and war Raiders. I I don't
know that. Again, Like there's no they needed a stip there.
But yeah, now you see all the matches that SPUs.
What are you thinking about the Knights?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I agree with you, guys. I was
just saying what other people were saying, Like, I do
think Night one it's gonna be really good, and I
mean I'm excited for both nights. I think I don't
know if this LISTI sent me is exactly the order
it's gonna be in. I don't think AGE sure about that.
Speaker 1: The match order, yeah, no, I don't know. No, this
is just just yeah, it's just a match.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I don't think war Raiders and New Day are opening
up night No.
Speaker 2: The order that I have is Jay Gunther opening up
war Raiders, New Day, Jade, Naomi Ray versus Chad Gable,
Tiffany Shratt and Charlotte Flair, La Night versus Jacobatu and
Punk Seth Roman in that order for Night one. Night two,
Uh Women Triple Threat opening I see Multiman second Aj
versus Logan Paul after that, Damien Priest versus Drew after that,
Randy Orton's Mystery match. After that, Uh Bailey and Lyra
versus Living Roquel, which is going to be my I
don't care about match honestly, and then Cody versus Sena closes.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be really good.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be real. I do. I agree
with that spose. I think the match is gonna be
really good. But I think they're putting them in the
cool down spot before Seen and Cody. I think they're
putting them in the spot that they know the crowd's
gonna get exhausted. And but even then, I don't think
like other than the women's triple threat that I see,
I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't trust forra Quel on that stage though I don't.
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 3: I will say she's good, she's a good impact team.
Speaker 1: She could be where I'm more positive on her was
one that match because I think it happened. It happened.
Maybe we did talk about the liver Kel versus Bianca,
and I only that was a great woman's tag. They
delivered big time. I'm there and that lyra Ic match.
I'm not saying it was an all timer, but it
was a good match as well. So I think Rakel's
maybe getting back like into full form. But like I said,
they are, they could put them in the dead spot
and that that's a tough thing to go from but yeah, no,
it's uh, what was it gonna? I can't remember what
it's gonna say, but continue on s pubs.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I see. I mean for me, they they
both look pretty good. I mean like you're saying, yeah,
I think night one is gonna be really good in ring.
I feel like, yeah, like some of these matches could
be like like really high scene. I feel like night
two is gonna be more fun, but night one Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like like I think I generally think Jay
versus GOODA there's gonna be really good either too.
Speaker 1: I think people are just don't think there's.
Speaker 3: A chance Dave gives it a five because the last
one he gave like a four point seven five or
something like that. People are like, this match wasn't that good.
I liked him, but I feel like if j bleeds
and it's gonna it's getting a five from David, people
are gonna be man.
Speaker 2: I also put Gunther in kind of the uh brock
Lessner camp where he can make you have a good
match when he wants to, and that was always the
thing with Lesner, like if he doesn't want to have
a good mattress you, he'll just go through the motions,
but if he wants to have a good mattress you,
he will. And I think Gunther, for whatever instances, can
make JA have a good wrestling match. Jay is a moment,
he is moment in time, he's the yeat, he's all
that other stuff. But like Bell to Bell is definitely Gunther.
But I think Gunther can pull a great match out
of j.
Speaker 1: I think so. But I also think too, like they're
not gonna be on TV this time too. Right you're
wrestling anywhere, there's still like sometimes trays they want to
keep to a certain amount, but there's certain matches that
aren't gonna get cut. I think Jane Gunther are one
that they're knock gonna back out you guys, like I
think the women's tag. I think like the men's I
see those are matches where they go sorry, like you
guys lost five minutes. But Jay Guther, I don't think
it's one of those matches. And I do think they'll deliver,
and kind of either way, you either get a big
mote with Jay winning or you get like a shocking
mom with Gunther, and I guess we could start there.
I think I think we all think it's opening that's
the open WrestleMania. Jay comes down, you get the heat,
it's a big moment. I'll say, if it does not
open the show, then I would go, Okay, I think
goother is actually taking it. Then I'd say there's just
sort of a change there, because I think it is weird.
I'm not saying they would not recover from it, but
it would be weird to start the show off that
way and then just kill the crowd with Jay losing.
It would feel very odd. It'd feel the crowd did recover,
but it would feel very much like WrestleMania twenty eight
where Daniel Brian lost in you know, eighteen seconds now
and he was the heel. But in I was there
in Orlando, he was not the heel. Everyone wanted Daniel
Briyan to win that match against Seamus and for a
while I was like, oh that sucks. Like even the
next match, people were chanting for Daniel Bryan.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're in that era anymore, but
I think if it opens, I think Jay is a lock.
As I've said, I think this is like a couple
month rain. Like I said, I wouldn't even be opposed
to them having Gunther beat him the night after, and
just seeing that heat happen because I think they're all
after crowd you can piss off a little bit more
because like they're going home now, like wrestling, the season's over,
you know, like I know you got Friday's still, but
different crowds. So I'm I'm still picking j I am
very curious what they do with goother after the fact,
if he does just win like again, or if he
goes on a chase. I know I've seen some people
say like, oh, put him with log win the tag division. No,
like you don't put them fucking back in the tag division.
Like my hope is if he doesn't win the tail
back right away, they put him in some like blood
feud kind of like Drew and Drew and Damian are
doing right now. I don't know against two, but I'm
I'm picking Jay to take this one. I think he'll
he'll get his moment. I think it's gonna be very
mankind where he'll may never win this title ever again.
Either this is like the Jay like take it in, Tay,
like take this moment in, be happy with it and
that's it. So I suppose what do you think for
Goo versus JA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I agree with you with the opening.
I feel like he's gonna win. And yeah, like you said,
I don't think it'll be a super long rain. I
mean at most maybe until like Summer Slam or something
like that. But I think, yeah, I think it's gonna
be a good match. And yeah, definitely if he wins,
that'll get the crowd hype per.
Speaker 1: Astling unless his like, unless he wins and his like
I know, people brand the YouTube videos that doesn't matter,
like it doesn't really matter at all. For the most part,
they're minor things. If he wins and his merch keeps
going up and his segments keep going up, they might
just say I keep it on him, you know, like
they may keep started as like a small rain but
be like or they might do the Edge thing where
Edge had for a month he was planned to lose it,
but that time ratings went up, so that's why a
couple months later he got the title back again from Sina.
So it might be, Hey, let's see if Jay winning
the title is actually just like kind of a Yeat meme,
or if people actually care about it and go from there.
You know, they did the same thing with Jeff. Jeff
had Hardy had it for a and then he lost
and they gave it back to him. So sometimes they
do those test runs, but I said, man Kind got one,
but his test run was like six days and then
three weeks. He never he's the ultimate transitional champion, but David,
you know, he's not May event, and he's not not
May event, but is the world champion.
Speaker 2: Jay, So I think there is a chance. I think
that if you're going to continue the moniker of main event,
you gotta do it now. I think Goo there's more
poise to win. But I could see a situation where
maybe Ludwig Kaiser tries to get involved and then you
have Jimmy come out. There's shenanigans all over, and that
leads to Jay winning. Jay's not just going to outright
out wrestle Guther, and this isn't going to be like
the Sammy's Ain situation where Guther just gets too involved
in it makes a miscalculation that just gets taken advantage of.
I think there will be shenanigans. I do see a
chance where Jay Luss is gonna take it, and I'm
gonna just go ahead and say, yeah, he does it
on this one because you need you need to do
that in order to keep this gimmick where it's at you.
He loses a lot of the aura if he cannot
win the big one, if he's not truly in the
main event. And I think after Gunther's ICEE title reign,
plus what he's done with this belt, he's already solidified
himself as a big bad So you don't need another
record breaking title rain, like, not every one of them
needs to be three hundred four hundred days. I think
he can take this loss and be okay.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, And the thing is, like people might not
like it or not, Gunther's already taken the loss. He
lost the saman he lost a People forget Cody beat
him earlier this year or earlier last year, right Like
they've not lost a smile, They've not made him brock
lesnar where he's the most. He's the guy can out
rescue but can still get being whether you like Cody
catch him with a roll up or smaller package, or
if he gets over confident or like whatever, right they
could play up the Jimmy stuff. So and I don't
think a loss will hurt him to me. For gun through.
What will hurtim is it's about the follow up to me,
if like, what do you do with him when he
doesn't have the title again? Because I think everyone thought
he was gonna go on a long run, so if
that doesn't happen. But I'm with you David where I
think if Jay loses, that does kind of hurt him
because I feel like people will still yat but now
it's just kind of like, eh, Like I just feel like,
at least of you, he does it once, Like I said,
even if he has it for a week or two
a night, it's like, oh, Jay could still we could
believe our guy. But then he's just like always a
bride and then what's the story next time? It's like
now he's like zero and three versus gun through, Like
why am I gonna care when he goes with the
title again in the future. So yeah, we'll see, Uh,
New Day versus Viking Raiders just kind of put on
there because you know, New Day was getting lots of heat.
That's kind of died off. I think the reason it
died off because I think unfortunately people are having fun
booing them. But I think people thought this was leading
to Biggie coming back. I think everyone figured out like, oh,
it's not that, and then New Day's not been doing much.
I think New Day gets the win ear they've been
talking about. They haven't held the titles since like twenty
twenty one or something, and I think this helps with
some heat. I don't think it would be a bad match,
but if I you know, unfortunately, it just haven't been
built with much. So if there's a match that I
do have to step out of the rumor or something,
this is probably gonna be the one where I'll go for.
I'm surprised what you were saying in the discord Spubs
that they didn't add some sort.
Speaker 3: Of I think there's still a chance they had stipul
like because they had like a promo. They had like
a promo video like on a like on Instagram or
something really like challenge them to the match of Rustlemania
and they're like, oh, if you you guys want to
use chairs, will use chairs or something like that.
Speaker 1: It needs that, it needs something fun for this to
get the crowd going and stuff. This is I'm kind
of surprised, like I would have been down. Maybe they
don't want to do it, but even for length like
They could even done like a ladder for this, and
I think there could have been fun to have, Like
that could have been the gimmick of like, oh, what
are the Viking Raiders do in a ladder match? Right?
Because they're big guys, so that could have been the
fun thing. And and plus they kind of lose a opin.
But yeah, it's interesting because Viking be Judgment Day and
I kind of thought they were gonna make them go
on a run and re establish that tag team, but
they kind of go disappearing a lot. The Viking Raiders.
They'll be on multiple weeks. You don't even hear from
other than like the the commercial breaks on Raw. But
it's like that I'm not counting that really, but they're like, oh,
we're here and we're waiting for the best team. So
uh yeah, I think New Day gets us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, match, I'd say it goes that. I mean there's
a possibility like if it's a no DQ, you could
do something with Big or something like that. True, Like
they have him on commentary and he like hits them.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like there's a chance attraction, right you
They just see him and then Viking Raiders hit their
finish done. You know that would at least get a
big pop in the in the match, So.
Speaker 3: I think, just for yeah, just for difference sake, I'll
go with the Viking Raiders winning.
Speaker 1: Okay, David, you are the tiebreaker here.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go New Day. I am going to slightly
modify something that was just said. I think that you
will hear Biggie's music. I will think. I think it's
going to be a play by the New Day. That's
the distraction to piss everybody off. New Day's big Biggie's
music hit. He doesn't come War Raiders turn and look
up at the entrance. New Day get the pin and
then go on to say to Joue, Biggie's not coming back,
and they walk out his champions. You put the heat
back on them for them using Biggie's stuff and him
not showing up. You've completely pissed. You have so much
heat on the New Day at that point, it's instant
reigniting the fire.
Speaker 1: You better have Biggie on that raw after them to
do something. You better have them there, not to rest
or anything, but that'd be wow. Okay, so we'll see
it goes down there. Jade Cargill versus Naomi as Bubbs.
What do you think's happening here?
Speaker 3: I think Jade Cargile is probably gonna win. But I
think it's gonna be a really good match, and it's
gonna be like obviously, like you said, like Jade's first
like big singles match in ww SO, and I think
Naomi is a good person to have that with. And uh, yeah,
I think she's gonna win because probably gonna be the
start of her getting into the singles title picture. And yeah,
I'm excited for his match. Like you said, the build
has been really good in the promos and stuff, and yeah,
that's that's my prediction of Jade winning.
Speaker 1: Okay, Jade, David, what about you?
Speaker 2: I'm going to say you need to put Jade in
a position of upward trajectory. She's been off for a while.
If you are going to solidify her going into to
either a mid card or a main title picture, then
she needs a win on the big stage and she
needs that momentum to carry forward. If you beat her now,
it is really not in service to anyone because we
all know Naomi is still gonna be Naomi win or loss.
She's and I think if she is gonna continue this
heel character then taking the loss but still being the
slimy heel afterwards and talking that trash will still keep
her where she's at. But Jade more needs to win
than Naomi does. So I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 1: Jade on this. I'm gonna say, Naomi pulls it out,
hook and crook. It's a clear cheat. It's like clearly
whether it's tights or a weapon. I think because they
can still build up Jade to be that unsoppable monster
or Naomi. I think with her momentum, they're building up
her with these promos, with people invest in her character.
I wonder if a loss like oh this is just Naomi.
She's always the person that loses these big matches. Like
I could see them doing something where I think Jade
could recover. Plus I guess it depends their trajectory, right,
I think if they have plans for Naomi to be
in the main, like obviously we won't know, but if
like Bionca is winning, like I said, I could see
Jade winning the or sorry Naomi, And that's a clear
feud right there, Like that's a backlash whatever feud after
Like okay, Jade or sorry Naomi and Bianca, But I yeah,
I just got a sneaky suspicion that we all think
it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It literally could be. I think it's gonna be a
good match. They could also time cut it, and it
could be China versus Ivory Resume seventeen where China is
pretty much squashed or it wasn't a squash match, but
it was like Ivory got a couple moves in there,
went for the damage neck and then China just beat
the Shiver for five minutes, ragged all there and that
was it. So I think there's a chance that if
things something happens like oh yeah, you guys got five minutes,
Jade's gonna like Jade's already going over. Just make it,
make make make Jade look strong, you know, gotta make
her look strong. But I'm gonna I'm gonna say Naomi
pulls it out. Hooker Crook, very Christian cre there's Jericholl
restume at twenty where everyone kind of thought Jericho was
gonna get it and then you got the slimy heel
that did something and you know, but I could be wrong.
We'll see and who knows. Maybe they've been watching Jade
practice or train and they still feel like she's not
ready to go in the main stuff. The gay let's
not have her win this one, so we will see.
So next week got Jacob Fatu in l A Knight. Dave.
I'm starting with you because you said you're confident this
is gonna be a good match, So who are you
confident on taking it?
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a fun match.
Speaker 1: Fun match clarification, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, because I think Jacob fo two is gonna pull
out all the stops. But I do agree with you
guys that at the end of the day, Jacoba two,
there's a very good chance he is gonna get screwed
over by Solo, And so I'm gonna take La Knight
winning this. We are gonna then go into the solo
Jacoba two for a bit before Jacob Fatuo comes back
and eventually takes the belt, just.
Speaker 1: Not right now.
Speaker 2: So I think LA will have this moment. I think
that the match will be bookended by the entire Allegiance
Stadium doing the La Night. Yeah, and they want that
little clip and then after that they can run it
back on the next pay per view or two pay
per views from now and then Jacob can win it
after beaten solo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I said, I think I'm on
the train where he gets screwed. I still I'm curiously
what the crowd does, especially if the crowd's really into
Jacob and La and Knight wins, like I think you'll
still get that. Yeah, but is it like a very
muddled like oh they give Ellen like which is fine
because I actually think like if the crowd were to
turn on La Knight, like if this was the start
of it, let's say, I don't actually think they'd be
the worst thing for Ellie Knight's career because he's he
was starting. It's he's almost like where I fought he
was a couple of years ago where they planned Ellie
Knight to be a heel and the crowd kept going
over And there's that whole story where TRIPLEH told Ela
Knight to go cut like a face promo but misunderstood.
So Ellie Knight kind of heal promo and tr just like,
oh what are you doing? He's like, I thought you
meant that, Like no, no, like I want you to
cut a babyface bro Like Okay, Like I think Ellie
Knight as a heel, we've not seen even that potential,
and that could be kind of fun and plus like
he could get heated up for when Fought two does
beat him, right, So maybe they use that. Maybe that's
a natural way of oh the crowds into Jacob, that's
how we start turn mape is a low key double
turn to celebrate the Austin Brightheart, And maybe that's the thing.
Maybe Ellie Knight literally sees the interference and doesn't care
and goes for the win right, And you might be like, oh,
that's kind of a scumbag move, like why would Ellie
Knight just take the win? And he's like, well, I've
lost it before, don't want to lose it again. So
I think Elle Knight and like I said, I it
could be a fun match. I'm curious how their styles
are gonna gonna mix, but they're Hey, they gave the
main events spot last week, so we'll see what happens.
So s Bubbs, are you going for a trifecta here
on mister Knight?
Speaker 3: I could see I like your guys idea of the
double turn. I would like that, but I don't know.
I just feel like, like Jacob Botzy's gonna win, like
he's gonna know, so the BFP like, yeah, get right off,
and then I don't know, I just feel like he's
gonna win.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Wow, okay, and then maybe you could
do the you could do the U if he wins,
not on WrestleMania, but SmackDown. I think you could do
the Evolution celebration where it's Jacob's out there with Solo
and Tauma and then they do the you know, they
won't do the thumb up thumbs down, but they could
do that where it's like, oh, we're so happy of you,
and then they just eat them alive and stuff. So
you could do that. So we got Ray masteerro versus
l Grande Americano. I don't know, Like here's my thing.
I get both sides. I see some people that hate
it and think it's ultramega and all this stuff and
the AI stuff, and I get the people that like
it because it's fun. I don't really care either way.
I think it is kind of a shame for Chad
Gable were last year. People are like, man, it shouldn't
be Sammy, it should be him. Where this is like
this is what he's doing, he's doing like a comedy
stick again. I think the match will be very good.
This for me is like this is a wrestle, may
be a SmackDown match. To me, I don't actually think
it deserves me on the main card. I would rather
have them do street profits and machine guns on here.
I think Chelsea and Zelina probably wouldn't have worked, but
I think Chelsea and like a multi woman match I
would have taken too. Like I just feel like this
feels like and because Ray and Chad of wrestled multiple
times on Raw, like it's and my only thing is
about the the Grande gimmick is I don't feel like
he's done like a couple of loocha things. But it's
not like, oh it's Chad Gable with like a bunch
of different new moves. It's pretty much just Chad Gable.
So I don't know this for me, I'll actually take
back the New Day war Raiders. Well, like this could
be fun. Ray's gonna have a sick outfit, He's gonna
look really cool. But I just and they they might
give Grande like a very elaborate entrance as well, kind
of like they did with Dawn but I'm happy for Ray.
I just I just don't think this is a restumating match,
and I really don't know who could win it. I
could see either way of like.
Speaker 3: Just like Ray in his contract he has his yearly
Manium match.
Speaker 1: It could be for me the winner of this, and
I'll pick someone, But it all depends on do they
need a heel or babyface to win? If a lot
of heels of one to night, I think Ray gets it.
If it's like Jade, you know, l A. Knight, you know,
or like Tiffany, then I could see El Grande. But
I think I'll say all Grande by who do I
have right now? I have New Day Naomi l A.
Speaker 3: Knight. I think that's gonna be like Ray's last two
Minia matches where the heels are are chieing to win
and then like all the factions come down to the
ring and start fighting and then he gets them out
of nowhere into the six one nine, hits it and wins.
I think I agree, Like American Made are gonna get
out there, like like they're gonna give him the metal
plate to put in the mask. You know, you know
it's gonna run out there. Bad Bunny is gonna jump
out of the crowd, and yeah the one nine and
and when the even though.
Speaker 1: That could be a good finish where he has the
head plate reges for six one nine, he does the
thing like oh my leg like like I'm actually I'm
I'm going back to Grande. I think that's what's gonna happen.
But I think if you're right, if bad Bunny is there.
Speaker 3: You can do I'm just joking about. Do you feel
like he could be like, you know, like the Creed
Brothers are gonna be out there l W like they've
done that. They did that last year, like the whole
l W O fighting with the Santos'scobar Legato. Like year
before that they had the Judgment Day and the l
W ran out and stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's where they always use Ray to for
like the celebrity spots. Remember they use Travis Kelcey or
Jason kelce That's where it's like, now I'm back and
forth like this to me is like.
Speaker 3: Very Tom Brady said he was gonna be at the
superl you know cakes Chad gave.
Speaker 1: Takes ask and he throws the mask over. But uh yeah,
I'll I'll go with Ray just to be like it's
a safe like give people a pop. But I do
like that finish of headplate. And even though it should
not take out Ray's entire legs been wrestling logic, it
will right Like even then that should hurt Chad Gable,
like you have a place that it's getting kicked in
your head.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did a diving head but the plate that
hit like him like in the chest Man extra damage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll say Ray, I'll go with Ray and
then Ray. Okay, David, where are you?
Speaker 3: I like your ideas for this like six to one
nine spot that would be great.
Speaker 1: They're gonna do it for sure, or that could even
lead into the ankle lock where he makes them tap too.
Speaker 2: So I'm actually gonna go with El Grande Americano for
exactly what you said that spot, there will be a
Raiders player who joins in. Here's the deal. Though with
pre with previous years, the celebrity has helped the baby face.
The Rays have traditionally been known as kind of the
bad boys of the NFL, so I could see a
Max Crosby or somebody jumping in to help out El
Grande Americano.
Speaker 1: And make it fucking Brady to help over because remember
he's a part owner of Raiders. You get that he'll
heat Brady.
Speaker 2: My home during all of this is yes, during the
big melee between the two teams, that's when he slips
the plate into his thing. You do the six one, nine,
Oh my knee, Bam, it's over.
Speaker 3: And then you know what they do nine surgeries.
Speaker 1: I have that surgery my knee nine times. And now
I'm stuck because you know what they could do at Backlash.
I could really see them doing a mask versus mask
match and that's where Grande loses. I'm I'm back to
Grande now, I'm.
Speaker 3: Just gonna be like a four point five star match.
Speaker 1: I'm back to Granic because I forgot about Mastrius's match.
That's how they could do it. But either way, yeah,
some Shenanigans are gonna happen. Next we have Tiffany Shradden
versus Charlotte Flair, and I will say one two thing too.
We didn't talk about the opening. One thing I'll give
them some benefit of the doubt. Is it being so
long Wrestling Mania build has definitely hurt the show overall.
The quality of them having like an extra three weeks
that that's something. Where have they announced when restlan is
earlier next year?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Earlier?
Speaker 1: Last year was like April.
Speaker 3: Fourth and earlier.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what the prol eleventh and twelve.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's like yeah, okay, yeah, so it's a
little bit better, but definitely the longer bill is her.
And that's one thing with this where it's like, Okay,
Tiffany and Charlotte, they've had a long time to build
because she picked her pretty early, Like I thought they
were gonna draw that out a lot longer and they
really didn't. So you got this going on before. So
there's like two like like nexus points. It happened because
before it was just like a very I think bland. Okay,
they cut a couple of promos. They do the brawl,
Tiffany does moon salts. She can't fucking hit Charlotte all
in these moon salts. You know, like there's fun stuff
going on, but it's like, okay, just the restume match,
and then you get the side by side online promo
right where yeah, Charlotte fucking dog what whoever designed it?
And I even said it's a discord where she dog
walked her, But it's like, whoever was the agent there.
Either she just said, hey, Charlotte, that was not a
good idea, or if they booked it that way, that
was not good because Tiffany's been hot and they just
made Tiffany look like a first year NX tier. It
looked it was really bad for Tiffany, and I was like, Okay,
my prediction is Tiffany's losing no matter what. But I thought, Okay,
she's gonna lose because they're looking at her like, oh,
she's not ready for this. Now I think she's gonna
lose because Charlotte's gonna go Charlotte Hoe and be like,
I'm not fucking losing to Tiffany because I've seen both sides.
Right of, hey, Tiffany shouldn't have cut that promo because
she's talking about Ashley Flair, not Charlotte Flair the character.
But no, to me, you had to because that was
the whole narrative. Is NN Tiffany's not ready for this.
Charlotte just fucking embarrassed in front of everybody. Now, sure
did she take some low blows, absolutely, but sometimes you
gotta do that. And my counterpoint is, too, is what
happened to Charlotte that promo take out the whole like
squeaky voice thing, like whatever, I'm.
Speaker 3: F she just gave up because the crust just kept
bring her and she just got mad. And it's not
saying anything.
Speaker 1: Because I know people like, oh she had a squeaky
voice thing. It's like, to me, that's fair game. Both
of them are talking about divorce, personal life whatever. Make
fun of her voice. I've never thought Disney's voice was
even that squeaky. But I'm like, okay, sure for me,
Charlotte were it looked bad, was okay, you get the
divorce stuff whatever, someone's gonna hit that. The timing was
great because she did do that Sherry Shepherd interview and
she was crying. It was like an all fuck, they're
going there the fact. To me, that's what was weird.
That was not Charlotte fl like she thought something just
gives up in the middle of promo and she's just like,
oh you go, And I was like, what, Like I've
seen Vicky Guerrero get booed, wore and not give up
and the like it was. So that's where it was like,
not only did tip because Tiffany mentioned her divorce, that's
not gonna make her get dogwak. That's not gonna be like,
oh she got It's like, that's an easy blow. I
think you should definitely go for it. You you do that, right?
You shoot? She had to. I've we've talked about this
in the discord already, so for us, it's not new thoughts.
Speaker 2: But you have to.
Speaker 1: Tiffany's gonna lose here, but it's gonna be better in
the long run because she gained more fans here, and
then if she loses, it's gonna be people thinking in
the office is fucking are over. People are gonna think, oh, man,
even if it's not true, even if Charlotte said nothing
and said, hey, you book WrestleMania, however you want triple
h I'm sitting out of this. If she wins, everyone's
gonna everyone's gonna look at us like, oh, Charlotte, fucking
you know, big leaguer rite And that'll be good for tifty.
That gives her that like martyr, like folk folklower type
of hero. That's how Punk got over was Punk was
the most popper guy, but he would never win. Everyone's like,
fuck like Vince's holding them down. He's not nain run WrestleMania.
He's losing to the rock like those kind of like
built that up. So I think it's just to me
that proem was odd that Charlotte kind of buried herself there,
but just giving up like you're the heel now relsh
like like egg them on, keep doing that stuff. I
get there loud. So my only complaint about after the
fact said this in the discord. I wish they didn't
do the parking lot fight thing. I get it that
people liked it. I don't think it's bad, but I
think there was such a oh man, are they gonna
be able to work together? Aura? Where now they've already
touched each other twice. I think it's like, Okay, they're
gonna figure it out. They're gonna do a match and
be fine. I would have kept them apart and made
it like us as the internet think, like oh man,
like they don't even want them in the same room.
They don't fucking trust these two anymore once and they
don't have the mics on them. So I get that.
But and this match, I don't know which way it's
gonna go. I think it could be matched the weekend.
I also think it could be Charlotte and Nya. I think,
not that it's gonna be like fighting on the big stage,
but I Charlotte could get payback. And Charlotte has been
known that she can make people look like shit. And
Tiffany is great, but she's also not as train as Charlotte,
and she can get lost her man a couple of times,
and Charlotte could ease easily kind of like tank this
thing if she wanted, like you know what, But I
don't know if she I don't think she will. I
think Charlotte has a lot to prove. I think she
wants to show everybody why she can be in the
ring good. She used to meet Mike Good. So I
think Tiffany's losing. There's no way Charlotte. I don't think
Charlotte's puting her over after that. I think there's a
lot of people in the wrestling sphere, like real life,
that we're not happy about the Tiffany stuff. But I
don't think Tiffany was I don't know, completely off base
to do it, because like that's what you do in
pro wrestling. They threw her in the shark, so you
gotta you gotta fight back or she was gonna die
because if she didn't fight back, Tiffy's heat would have
been gone. People would not have cared about Tifney Stratton.
Now she has to like wave the waters for a
little bit. But yeah, I'm going Tiffany's take in the
l and maybe she'll get it back later on. David,
what have you thought about Tiffany and Charlotte and then
your prediction?
Speaker 2: So I thought, I don't agree with what h Bully
Ray said about how you can do this because she
was talking about Ashley Flair instead of Charlotte Flair. For
all intents and purposes, k fabe is dead. She went
out on the Sherry Show as Charlotte Flair and talked
about her social media you know, yeah, and she talked
about her personal struggles. And she didn't stop and say,
this is me talking to you as Ashley Flair. She
came out as Charlotte Flair and talked about her career
struggles and coming back and this and that. So at
that point, your fair game. And I know it's been
said that other people have in the past, seen has
done and some others have done it. Where though we'll
kind of, you know, try and trip you up in
the promo just to test you and see what you got.
Charlotte has done that way too many times with way
too many people, and she does it with other people
on her level, and she does it with rookies like
there is no there's no level to this. This is
no hey, rookie, I'm trying to show you the ropes
or you know, break you in. This is just Charlotte's
an asshole. So oh, for that purpose, I kind of
think that Tiffany might take this. I think Charlotte's going
to have the better entrance. I think Charlotte will definitely
out wrestle her, but I think Tiffany will find a
way to win this somehow and then she can take
that claim. And I think part of that may be
because of how personal this got, and with Charlotte going
off scripts so many times and challenging Tiffy and having
her be put in a position where she had to
come back on two different occasions. The first time, yeah,
she failed miserably because she was deer in the headlights.
The second time she was prepared with some personal equips
against her. So I think that's one too many times.
It's taken too many liberties. They'll probably like, you know what,
we're going to use this to build Tiffany.
Speaker 1: If David, if you knew behind the scenes and they're like, hey,
if Charlotte doesn't go over, this could be like a
foundational breaking relationship thing, potentially losing Charlotte. Do you still
put Tiffany over? Yep, I do too.
Speaker 2: But so you know, here's the thing with AW. When
it comes to the women's division, it's mediocre at best.
So there is a chance that she could flounder. There
is a chance that she could go over there and
then end up coming right back. I don't see. Yeah,
she's not taking the Mercedes Monet route and traveling the
world and being big in Japan and all that other stuff. No,
she's gonna she's gonna try big league over in AW.
Realize there's no one over there to really big league with,
and end up right back. I also think that with
Tony Kahan's obsession with Mercedes Monette, Mercedes could be like, yeah, no,
don't bring over here, it's not worth the hassle, and
then she's just left out until she eventually comes back.
Speaker 1: You know, TK wants to run Monette and Ashley Flair,
and they had great chemistry those two. They put on
some fantastic matches.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that Raw Women's Championship main event that they
put on where they had the pin attempt inside the
railing on the steps in the crowd. I mean, they
had some great matches. I just I don't think Charlotte
right now is worth the risk. So yeah, there's a possibility,
But if you're going to lose one of them, I
wouldn't lose your up and coming star. I would build
that up and coming star. You've done a lot with
Charlotte already. There's no need for her to break her
dad's record. Yes, it'd be nice, but she's already solidified
herself in her own right, built the new star.
Speaker 1: Yeah, alright, s bups.
Speaker 3: Just to have the different take than my original prediction,
I'll go with David on his side.
Speaker 1: Oh okay. I can't wait for that post show when
I get to see that, because my thing is like,
she lost. When's the last time Charlotte went WrestleMania Charlotte
WrestleMania matches because she lost to Rhea and obviously she's
been injured a lot in the past couple of years.
I don't know that answer. So that SUPs you go
and I'll find that answer.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably I think did she beat Ronda
Rousey at wrestling?
Speaker 1: I don't actually, I think you're right. That was the
last one on Yeah, WrestleMania thirty eight she defeated, which
was that was a very random one. Okay, So she
lost to Reah, so lost Ree at thirty nine, beat
rondet thirty eight, she beat Rowsey at thirty six, she lost,
then she beat for Sure. Yeah, she beat me at
thirty six in the no crowd, So yeah, she she
has definitely like a win, Okay, So it's it's she
beat Becky and Sasha and then she lost uh Bailey,
Sasha and nine, and then she won against Oscar. She won,
she lost against and Rhonda, she won against Rhea one
against Ronda, and then lostkins Rias. That's one two, three four,
So I think she's literally she's with She has four wins,
three losses, so I guess this would put it at
fifty to fifty. So not as bad actually, as I.
Speaker 2: Think that the thirty six win is also hurting her
case in this match because everyone said afterwards Rias should
win over and that no crowd match. Everyone loves Ria,
she should win over now yes, it worked out the long.
Speaker 1: Run, sure of No, I'm looking where yeah, look where
were they're there the second we were in.
Speaker 2: No crowd at at the time. At the time, people
were saying Ria should win over Now, in the long run, yes,
it worked, it worked out perfectly.
Speaker 1: But at the time because look at him and Drew
dread to beat rock lesnar in a fucking just like
like fucking one guy clapping or something like, no, like that's.
Speaker 2: Where and then faced big show immediately.
Speaker 1: You fucked the big show thing. But that's where, like
I yeah, I completely agree, it should have beat Ria.
It worked out the best. You should have Riha winning that.
And now at some point we're at Ria Charotte three
because they're tied. But okay, so Charlotte be at fifty
percent if she lost this, so there you go, it'd
be a fifty to fifty So subs, you're saying she's
going at fifty percent. Yeah, I'm a little I could believe.
I just wonder what they do after the fact. Unless
I've been pitching this since the gimmick started. Men or women,
I either want Seth and Drew to do it, or
I want Becky and Charlotte to do it. Why is
no one doing the two men power trip gimmick? That's
what I hope is. Let's say Charlotte loses, get Becky
back and have her and Charlotte is fucking just do
Hogan esque stuff like Rock and Austin, Like I want
someone to do the two men power trip, but uh,
we'll see what happens and then oh boy, the main
event seth Rons versus Rome, Remaynes versus Seam Punk four nothing,
They're just fighting for whatever. That's my thoughts. I said
this a little bit before if these guys have heard it,
so I'll abbreviate it. Not a fan of this, see him.
Punk is an all timer favorite. He's in. I don't
know who my number one is because I've always said
it's an eras right, It's like Undertaker, Punk, Omega, and Cody.
That's like my Mount rushmore of like each guy's for
some reason of got me back into wrestling or introduced
me to wrestling. Punk for he kept me wrestling in
two thousand and like eleven twelve. The way I tell
myself is this is a mulligan because he should have
got the main event back in the day. That's where
I'm trying to go Okay, it should have been Rock
seeing him in twenty nine. No one wanted Rock and
seen it too, We got it. It should have been
multiple times, right, or he should have been in the
spot where the misses in twenty seven. I still hate
this because I still think this diminished all the titles
like to me, and it dimishes the Rumble. Now I'm
caring less and less with the Rumble. Other then, like
the match is always fun, but that's where it's just
at this point, I wish they just had Punk beat
Gunther and this would have been for the world title.
Like that's where even if this one of them would
have held it for a month, like just give Seth
Roman or Punk the world title and then for me,
I'm completely on board with this being the main event.
It's just weird that these guys are fighting for nothing,
like they're fighting, they're not fighting for them, but like
there's no prize, no one's retiring, no one's coming back.
It's just well, Roman and Paul have a lot of
stroke and punks always wont to main event WrestleMania, so
here you go. It's just it's odd because it's just
little things, like many things in this manium the build
up like Drew's going after Roman. That story was dropped
seeing Punk has to win the chamber at Rumble because
you won't write main wrestu ma oh, that story was
dropped because Paul Hamming can just do it. Like that's
thing where I think they're fine, But you don't want
this shit to build up the next couple of years,
because then you will get people uninvested because you're supposed
to invest in these characters in the matches, and the
second you start doing like Punk's whole story this year
was really for nothing. He could have just at any
point just attacked Roman and got a wrestlemaning main event match.
Why do you do this? Why do you put his
body through the chamber?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: Like so it's just like I I wish there was
easy fix. Fucking Punk hins a gts on gun. There
he's world champ.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: That's the reason it's the main event. So I wish
there was a better way of getting there. I'm happy
for Punk. I know that the match is going to
deliver on entertainment wise off, So you go either way
on how you're gonna feel of Roman. I think there's
no chance. In my opinion, Roman the big Dog is
not winning this. I think whatever the case is, I
know they work together now that there's even been reports
that Roman's still like, yeah, he's not a fan of Punk,
and I just don't if anything, if it's not Roman,
it's Seth. I don't see Punk winning this match because
Punk's whole thing was he wants the main event WrestleMania.
He doesn't want to win the main event, resume. That's
that's never been the story. Now they went against the
story what it was telling me before with Punk. But
I just think Roman lost last year. I just don't
see I don't see Roman losing this. And Roman's popular
enough that it's not like a ah fuck or like
people love Roman. He's getting like and I will say
again we talked the most months ago. I wish if
it was not for the titles, I wish Seth wasn't here.
I would actually rather Seth be with Jay and Gunther
and have a dynas there. Seth has felt like the
third wheel this entire time, like and I think unless
they turn him heel in the next month, his stock
is like dropped a little bit. I know, Okay, people
like oh, they still sing his song the secondest music cuts.
They're channing for Punk. They're chanting for Roman, even when
he's like, seem Punk's the worst person in the world.
He kicked my mother and they're like, so yeah, like
they don't care what Seth's talking about. They've made him
look like a fucking nerd. They've made him look like
a loser of like he keeps going on about and
he left this place twenty years ago. It's like and
then they chant his name like they don't care, So
just turn them healed, just do something. And even same thing,
they're channing for Roman Reigns while he's talking about how
Roman's and Cancer this company he's gonna run over, and
they're like Roman Roman rains, Like they just make Seth
continually look like an idiot. My last point was weeks
ago when it was that whole fight and it was
just Roman and Punk talking and Seth was in the
background doing nothing, just like I'd like to hear what
Sampunk has to say. It's just like I kind of
agree with people that this definitely feels like if Broccolsner
was around, this would be brock spot as like the
third Paul Hayman guy and they could do that, but
you'll get your shield power bomb. Seth is the workhorse
because you never know I Punk and his body and
Roman he likes to do his style the way it is,
so Seth's gonna work his ass off. And good for
Seth he gets another restum event main event. But I
just if they don't turn him heel in the next month,
I think he is in really big danger of the
crowd not caring about him other than like, oh I
like to sing his song but h So yeah, I
really wish it was just Punk and Roman. I've thought
the favor was a disappointment. I thought most of the
promos they just give like Punk even Roman even hinted
about the online reports of like oh he's the reason
or I'm the reason he's back, but like they didn't
get into that because that's a rumor that Triple H.
Nick con went to a few talent like Cody and Rome,
like hey, would you work with him? So like it
kind of sounds like if Roman gave the thumbs down,
they're gonna say, now, we're not going to do this
right now, get more into that. They've just mentioned a
little bit, but that Punk mentioned the Shield and if
people don't forget Punk said he wanted Moxley in the Shield.
He won Rolls and he won Cassie's on Oh, and
then he said, no, can we have Roman instead? And
He's like, sure, that's your guy you want to raise
up or bring him in. There's so much meat on
the bone they've not even touched. It's all about the
favor in the main event. So for me, this is
like a like a A tier directors mean, those guys
with like a B tiers scriptwriter, That's what's happening here.
So I've been disappointed by all this, even though the
match is going to deliver Roman's raising the one Paul's
gonna be crying over seeing Punk's body looking all confused.
I don't think they're having Paul go with Seth. But again,
if I'd be down for that, if Seth just mega
turns heel and Paul's with him, then at least it's something.
But I just don't see this scenario where see him
Punk wins this. But maybe I'm wrong, But David, what
do you think? What do you thought about the triple
weat build and who's taking the w in this blood feud.
Speaker 2: It's been a weird build with all the favors here,
and I think that they shut their load a little
bit too early announcing what the favor is. I think
that should have been this week. That should have been
the big surprise right before it happens, like.
Speaker 1: Well, no, they gotta reveal Roll's favor now because remember
Paul Oh is in a favor now now.
Speaker 2: And we've still had what a week and a half
to sit on that. Again, it's it's too long to
just sit on these things. I mean, even if they
did on Monday they did Punk's favor and then Friday
they did Seth's favor, it's all within the same week.
I think it adds more of a what's going to
happen to it. I do think that Punk is going
to be the one taking the pin in this, but
I think that Seth is going to turn ultra heel
and that is going to be part of his favor is.
There is going to be a point where Paul Hayman
has to do something that's going to either cost Roman
or Punk in this match, and I think Seth pins Punk.
And I also think it's kind of a hey, Seth,
we know you did us as solid by working with
Punk all this time. We know how you felt for years.
Last year, leg you know you've been doing all these sacrifices.
You you get to have your hand raised at the
end of Night one, and I think with Roman not
taking the pin and something happening with Paul Hayman, then
you can continue that on down the line. But Punk
takes the pin. Seth is the one who pens him
as a hey man, thanks for all you've been doing.
Because you've been You've been holding it down even when
literally Kevin Owens had to hold you up in the
middle of the ring as Cody celebrated last year, and
then I.
Speaker 1: Hoped Alter feel it's tough because we'll talk about seeing
it Cody later. But I feel like if they can
revisit Seth and Cody with Seth as a heel again
and there's another win they made Seth go Owen three
with Cody, they need to let's that's gonna win back
that he can and maybe you can have Cody on
a losing streak here. But uh okay, so I'm going Roman,
You're going Seth s Bobs where your thoughts was match
and where are you with the with the winner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm excited for it. Like like you said,
the story has been like sort of weird on the
stuff they do and don't touch on. But I think
by the time it gets the match, it's gonna be
it's gonna be hype, it's gonna be it's gonna be aura,
it's gonna have it's gonna have cinema moments and you
know they're gonna hit the double power bomb or like
the bottle bomb and the sphere and stuff. But uh,
I think Seth's gonna win as well.
Speaker 1: Wow, I would love to see that because people think
I'm memo on Seth. I love Seth Rollins. It's just
like I felt for years he's been like he's too
much of a company man sometimes, I mean, and even
people now being like, why are you complaining? He probably
politicked his way in a triple threat. I get that.
I think there's a way, But wow, you think Seth's
gonna get the who takes.
Speaker 3: The I don't know. I feel like it has to
be it has to be punk. I feel like unless
it's like because I feel like you can continue the
punk su fewed like on a on a.
Speaker 1: They're tied technically, right because even though Roman helped them win,
he still won the cage match, right, and then Punk
won the raw debut and stuff. So h yeah, okay,
so we'll see what happens and then and then yeah,
that'd be interesting if Seth wins and where they put
and I still want Roman and Punk one on one though.
I hope that does happen. I wonder if it might not.
I wonder We'll see how this goes. I bet this
is like a real test after this match, if Roman's
down for it, if he's like, nah, I'm I'm good.
I don't need to work with him again. It's like
we've done everything we can here, which I disagree with.
I think there's I think there's Drew seeing Punk money
on the table with those two. But we will see.
Then we go tonight too, which we believe is opener
EO Sky, Rea Ripley and Bianca bel Air. Uh you know,
s Pub's got his wish eos in the mainment title picture.
She's got a match, she's a champion. Question is does
she leave with the belt? S Bubbs.
Speaker 3: I'm saying yes, obviously. I just feel like this whole
sort of like for the same reason as the set thing.
I feel like it's i'd say even this more so
because the set thing, they haven't really made it that
he's like the third wheel, like that's how people see
it as. But it's not been like a it's not
like Roman and Punk are talking and their pushers set
out of the way, like not in a literal.
Speaker 1: Once though, because when he called out Punk and se
is like I wasn't even talking about, like why are
you in here? But you're right, that's not the main story.
The main story this is that EO. Like it's like
she like snuck her way in.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I mean the thing is like he's
and they like they mentioned it on commentary like every
single time, to the point where it's like this is
the story. It's like like she's the champion, but she's
being overlooked because Bianca and Ria have the feud and
they're just focusing on each other. So I feel like
that's the gonna be the story of the match, Like
they're gonna be fighting, but then eventually it'll come down
to I assume probably Ria getting pinned, but probably something
along the lines of I don't know, like both of
their finishers work well to get someone down for her
to hit the moon salt on them. But I feel like,
I don't know exactly how you get in the three
way I but I assume probably Ria gets hit by
the by the kod is somehow Bianca gets thrown out
a ring or hit with something else, and then EO
retains there.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you do the Ultra Danger finished where
she's doing the kyoti and area and EO hits her
with the mouse. That's two K type of ship. But
I'm saying that that's all.
Speaker 3: I feel like. I feel like there he is definitely
gonna do she is, like I feel like she they're
gonna do like the Avalanche poison ron A spot like
they sees it in the wrong match, Like she's gonna
do that probably, I mean probably to Bianca. I feel
like him play more safely land on On like I
feel like, yeah, you can do those sorts of flips already,
So I feel like yeah, So it's just I don't know.
I don't know if I don't know if Io will
do the tombstone. I hope she will, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: After the match, and they'll do the post where it's like, no,
I lost taker as well, she'll tack now Michelle McCool,
they set up evolution, but no, I've liked your pitch
of like kind of all of it as far as
one the match type, like you know, people obviously don't
love to talk about, but Triple H, ben Wan and
HBK great triple threat match, and that was the story
of that, that Triple H and Shauma or yeah, Shamichaels
Triple hate each other so much, they didn't focus on
ben Wall. They even have that great spot which they
suplex them into the table and they want to fight.
Like I kind of said, don't copy that match, but
do a variation of that match for the women. It'd
be great.
Speaker 3: I feel like, speaking speaking Sean Michaels, I feel like
Leo could even do the moon Salt to the table.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I think if Eo wins, though, you actually
should have Bianca take the pin because if she's losing
the streak, have it like a like a just if
you're gonna make her lose, have her lose lose like
she lost it this time. And uh, because I'm not
sure where because.
Speaker 3: I feel like with the story of Rhea being the
one who like inserted herself into it and like in
the first place was mad at Bianca. I feel like
like in the story, really like Bianca didn't really do
anything wrong, Like yeah, she's cheering for for both of
them at.
Speaker 1: Some point because Ria is like psychotic now because her
friends keep turning on her, right, And that's the story
that people don't get like when they're like, oh, well,
how did she get in here, it's like, well, that's
the story, is like she lost Dom, she lost Finn,
all these people keep turning on. My point could be though,
like Ria could be even more mad if Bianca gets
pinned and Ria didn't Eve get pinned to wrestlem in
a lose match. That's where I think you could do
I think e of them could do it, but I
my other one was because iOS just recently beat Ria.
That's why she could beat Bianca. So that now it's
like in the last two months, EO's beat Ria, She's
beat Bionca. So you don't have like Bianca being like,
well I earned a shop, but I didn't even get pinned.
That's why you can kind of be like, well, you're
both out, Like Eo beat you Ria two months ago
and EO just beat you WrestleMania. Now you tour on
your own. And I like your idea of them feuding,
and they should. They should do that at Evolution. That
should be one of the top tier matches. But I
said before, there's always a chance that if they want
to do like a Bianca versus Naomi for the title,
that could happen. Your pitch as pubs of the separate feud,
they might do that with e and Rio. That could
be the feud that they are the ones for Raw.
They feel like they screwed each other over and they're
gonna feud for a couple months because they've had a
bunch of matches, and I guess Bianca would be on
Raw then I guess I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, So yeah, that's the that's the thing too, because
she's technically on SmackDown. But I mean it's happened like
Cody was on Raw and Ruin, so it doesn't really
matter that much and you can just draft people show anyway.
Speaker 1: And I still honestly give it a five percent chance
that Riha wins, because like I think she won't because
Ria's had two big wins of WrestleMania. Bianca had that
big win with Sasha Wrestume, yet EO hasn't had that
big moment yet, so I think this is that. But
Ria's just also the most like either second or most
overperson in the company. Doesn't care what Twitter says, Like
there's that great uh video of Stephanie interviewing Rihea and
she brings the clip from Cody of Cody complaining like
when he's not the top merch seller, Like it's just
like movies, Internet wrestling is a fucking bubble. Anytime Ria
comes out, the pops are massive. Lucky enough for EO
when they had their match, it's like a fifty to fifty,
Like people love EO too, So that's that's worked out.
I was surprised how much is the case. But I
feel like with WrestleMania, you get more of a mainstream
crowd and people know Rhea Ripley, so there's always a chance.
It feels like with John Cena, where sometimes you'd think
Sena's losing that year Mania and they're like, ah, just
that John, Like if there's a situation where they have
no idea what they're gonna do for the winner of
their women's match, they're going back and forth. I can
see him to be like, yeah, GI have the Rea.
She's poplar, and like the crowd's gonna like the crowd
will pop right if she gets a win, she has
her cool gear, then you can tell that story of
the last three WrestleManias. Riea's been on top. So when
the next person, whether it's Julia or Stephanie come to
take her down.
Speaker 3: I think she teachs she's doing some sort of Joker
themed gear.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's not Art the Clown. I thought
for sure it was gonna be Art because she's like
talked about terrify her so much. She got the tattoo.
I think she's gonna be in the third one. I
thought for sure it was gonna be Art the Clown.
But yeah, my percentages would be like seventy for EO
twenty five Bianca and five percent for Rihea because there's
always that chance. I just go like Nick CON's watching,
He's like, oh, Rihea's not going over tonight. Oh no,
okay Ria over, like like there's always a chance because
he was said it this week, like I don't we
don't listen to the internet, which I don't believe, but
like we don't listen to the all.
Speaker 3: I think that could be him thinking Triple H tells
him that, yeah, I don't listen to the internet, and.
Speaker 1: I could literally see a fucking the lock by the board.
Oh Ria's not going over like no, like like my
my sister's wife has a Ria Ripley shirt. Like you're
putting her over right, like she was like you, Like
she's the most mainstream star they have, next to Cody.
So it's just you never know. But David, which way
is this going?
Speaker 2: This one was kind of my hardest to try and
figure out. But yeah, I'm gonna go with Riha on Sorry,
I'm gonna go with EO on this. I'm gonna good,
I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 1: EO on this.
Speaker 2: Yes, Riha is probably the most popular out of the three,
but I don't think her popularity will be lost by
losing this match. I think she's gonna have a memorable entrance.
I think she's gonna put on a hell of a show.
But she's one of those also who she's great as
a champion, but she's also great in the chase. So
I think that EO getting the win and having a
cool ass moment on getting her win, because I think
that her moon salt is going to come off of
the back of something else and it is going to
be whatever that ending sequence is, It's going to be
memorable and it's going to be something that is captured
on Twitter and repost it like they are going to
make a moment out of it. So and I think that, uh,
as much as I like Beyonca, I don't think that
she's taking it right here right now. She's someone who
also will stay in a title picture regardless. So yeah,
I think Leo is just going to take this and
you know.
Speaker 3: She people making comparisons to this match of like this
could be like the Seth scenea Brock type match. Oh yeah,
like the two like you kind of have Bianca, I guess,
And like I'd say she's probably more in like the
Brock just in terms of like the speed and the
strength and stuff like that. You probably ryas like a
scene who can do like power were spots? What is
it like on that sort of like just like freak
of nature type stuff, and then you would have Ceo.
Not in terms of who wins, I mean, but I
mean just in terms of like the sort.
Speaker 1: Of like structure se Yeah, I might flip. I might
flip and put Rie in the the Brock spot because
they've done so many spots of Rhea standing over them both.
I might have her in the She's gonna destructive and
take them out and everything. But I think, no matter what,
this match is gonna like if you were to ask me,
what match is probably gonna be matched the weekend. If
I bet a man, I bet on this one. I
think there's another one that could. But I feel like
they have it because I feel like, you know, again,
I sometimes count it, sometimes don't, but like if you're
counting main events Night one, Saussa and Bianca, that for
me is like a topper. Ria has done that with
Charlotte multiple times and Becky EO. The the Bailey match
was really really good. I don't think it's the level
of those ones, but I think that she can deliver here,
so I think, uh, I think it has a good
chance to be matched the night so uh. After that,
we got bron Breaker versus pent Fors Dominic Masteriro for
the finn Balor. I'm gonna say it here, Dominic Mastiro
your new I see champion. Yeah, I get like I said,
I would have flipped it. I would have made the
US the Multiman and give Braun a one on one.
But if they design here is for Braun to lose
and not take a pin, I get it. I think
this is the perfect time to get Dominic the win.
You can turn Finn back to heat or face. You
can have Pen to beat Dominic for that. Like, there's
tons of routes you can go. I think the image
of live and Dominic with the titles, like they can
do what they did with him and Reo with the
North American. I think, uh, Braun hits a spear on Yeah,
I'll say Braun hits a spear on Finn, Dominic throws
him out, gets the pin on Finn. So it's the
double of dom snuck the win for Braun and then
he also pinned Fin, and Fin's gonna be like, hey,
what the fuck, like why'd you pin me? And I
think they leave pent and Braun out of it and
kind of have that going. So I'm saying Dominic Masseiro,
I could see it being a very short run. I
could see it being a fucking eight month run because
like he's just like that's a perfect guy, like just
sneak and you got Judgment Day. But uh, and I
don't know who they're gonna I think of the kickout
fin they are gonna add someone new. I've actually not
mined the carrying cross like theory I I would be
down for that, but uh, I think with the black
and but yeah, and even then that's a good Icy
opponent for Dom. Right if they have RUSSI throw him
around a little bit like Dom, you can do a lot.
And like I said earlier, Braun, I think it's just
he's outgrowing that scene. He could he's start. He should
get back up to the uh the big boy title.
Now he should start, whether it's money in the bank,
whether it's rumble. I would actually like Braun or Gutha
to win the rumble. I think that's a good way
to heat them both up. But uh, David, who's taking
the home the Icy title?
Speaker 2: Originally I was going with Pensive, but now I think
you've convinced me to go with Dom like you have
legitimately convinced. I did think Braun was losing it because
I think that Braun is gonna go on and he's
gonna be in the main event scene after this. He's
gonna be probably Jay's next opponent if they don't run
back Kim and Kunther. You know, I think they're gonna
hot shot him up there. They've had matches before, they
had the IC match before, so we know that they
can do it. So originally I thought Pinca, but yeah,
I could see a situation where Dominic walks out of it.
He solidifies himself as the new leader of the judgment.
Dave Finn, you can't tell me shit, I'm running this now.
We will be bringing in a new member and if
you don't like it, rusive crush.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's put the Eddie photos too. He has
the mullet right now, so there's there's a lot they
can do.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm on the I'm on the same page
as Trovis. I think he probably Dominic wins Penning Fin.
That's probably your first feud, and I think eventually Penta
probably wins it off of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, only way Penta doesn't win all often in the
draft they put him in Phoenix on the same brand.
But I don't think they need to right now. I
think they can hold them off. Like I also like
to me like not to long term book, but i'd
say like do that for Mania next year, have like
you know, Luther Bros. Versus whoever. The tag team is, like,
get that going. But right now established Phoenix more pent
A is over as an act, like wait till they
cool down or wait till they've done some more stuff,
Like I don't think they need to They don't need
to rush that. It's they got two single stars right now,
be even bigger if they become a tag team down
the line.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, this is something where they need to hold
off one and to Ray come together. Maybe at a
pl they run into each other, have like a backstage segment,
and then save it probably up until Royal Rumble. Have
them have some interaction with each other in the Royal Rumble,
which then leads to them team in together.
Speaker 1: It kind of sucks that they It not sucks, it's fine,
but like I almost wish in retrospect they didn't make
Penta the first two entrances this year. It would have
been great. This year it was him and Phoenix to
start the rumble. That would have been fun. They could
still do it, right they might be like, oh whatever,
but still I think it could be a rumble situation there.
So Okay, so we're all green. The Damien pries versus
Drew McIntyre in a Sin City street fight. Guy just
fucking got his eye patch off, Like, oh, let's put
him in a weapons match, like man. But I think
this has been like better than I thought it would be.
But I'm still not happy with it. I'm still with Drew.
In that interview, he said, like you could have added
him to the the main event of Night one and
been a fatal four way. I still think you could
have maybe even had him over Seth in there. Like
I just was very invested in the Bloodlin Hunter gimmick.
I thought, oh, this is really cool, and he didn't
go anywhere. Ay, same thing. I would have been fine
if they did Seth and punkett Mania and then Roman
and Drew. So I think this has been fine. I
hope they have a good fun plunder match. For me,
Drew has to win this one. Damien Priese has won
me a bit over this year. I just think with
Drew they've done not the great job of making him
like a tippy top guy. He's always on the bubble.
I think if he loses date Damien here, it's kind
of like some credibility gone. I feel like a lot
of people uninvest in the Drew mackin tire story. I
know he can always be an asshole and just like
come out and blood you up or steal bracelet or whatever.
But I think you got to get him some w's here,
especially especially last year too, right, Like Damian All already
beat him last year, so it's like you're training off wins.
I think, uh, Drew gets to win in a tough,
hard fought match. But s buzz, what do you think here? No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with Drew winning. I hope this is
a really fun match, you know. I hope they go
into the crowd or on the stage or whatever and
just do all the cool stuff. And uh, yeah, I
feel like you said Drew has to win, especially, I
feel like you could probably get him in neither of
these title pictures really if you want to.
Speaker 1: Do Yeah, oh fuck, I could babyface Drew McIntire again
against Sena. I hope I might worry about. I hope
seen it being healed does not mean we don't get
him and Goonther and him and Drew, because I want
that before it's all over. But uh, David, are you
three for three on this as Drew taking it.
Speaker 2: I'm team Drew on this. You know it's last year,
Damien got it this year, give it to Drew. I
think there it's gonna be a fun match. I really
hope that they utilize the backstage, not just going to
the crowd with the street fight. I want them to
really utilize the backstage. I want this to look like
either of the WrestleMania seventeen when they're in the back
the golf car thing. Don't accidentally knock out the power
like they almost did back in WrestleMania seventeen, but just
have utilize all that space for this Sin City street fight.
Utilize the staging area to the best you can, and
just have a all out brawl to where Drew ends
up taking it.
Speaker 1: Randy versus TBA. As of right now, we kind of
are assuming it's solo. We haven't got a graphic or
anything like that. I guess you could always have Randy
win the battle oil, but I don't think they're doing that,
So it's fine. It sucks that they don't have anyone
like with Black. Seems like it's not that Russa. There's
always the meme that he won't lose, and plus they
are returning right you might not want them to eat
a pin right away. My pitch people might be crazy
that I thought to pitch this. They wouldn't because they'd
want to promote it. But my pitch was Goldberg. My
pitch was surprise opponent. Goldberg comes out massive pop again.
He always says he needs time to train, so and
be that. But I think you could have like a
five minute finisher, spam banger in the crowd would be
uber happy my finishes, Goldberg go for the spear, and
Randy catching Marco. It's done. We kind of think Randy
is gonna be a big part of Backlash maybe Maine
event with Sina, so he has to win this. So
if it's Solo, that's fine. I think Solo again should
be on the card. He was a main player last year.
I just would have put it on Night one with
Jacob FAUGHTU and Alien and I would have made that
triple threat or the Multiman. So it's a little weird,
but yeah, and Alsolo came out and was motherfucker and him,
so we'll get that. And I think that's like a
it'll be a fine three star edition. And Randill hit
the Darko and said anyone, I'm happy. I just I
just would go with the like if it's gonna be
a TBA, find somebody or like even like I don't
think they could do this, but like who's in TEENA?
I know people said Jeff Like I almost would not
be opposed, like because you know, why did that movie
cool that that music hits and Jeff Hardy comes out
massive pop, give them seven minutes, just let them go
crazy and Randy when like that's why I'd say, is
like if you're gonna do a no build whatsoever match,
just throwing Soulo out there, I just feel like the
crowds like, uh like like give them. It's kind of
like when the Shield came back for the first time
and Roman was hurt so they had nothing but like
have Kurt Angle team with Seth and John. It was
completely random, but it was Kurt Angle's first match back
in w in like a decade. That's ryan like what legend.
Speaker 3: I was just watching the video of is it WrestleMania
twenty four? I think where it was Batista versus Umaga
with just like no build. They were just like yeah, like.
Speaker 1: It's Robert Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's where it was
a very kind of dune match. Even though I thought
that could have been a good match, and it was.
It was fine. But that's I mean, find somebody hit up,
TNA hit up. I don't know, hit up your fucking
wi I d fine or what legend can work? Like
where's RVD? Like, just like have something fun and just
keep it short. Give Randy a cool entrance, give the like.
There has to be somebody out there, like get the
fucking boogeyman. I don't know, get Booker t not Pat McAfee.
Don't put him in the spot. But that's my pitch.
Whoever it is Randy wins. But David also imagine with
think Randy Wins, do you have any outside the wall
pitches other than just solo that.
Speaker 2: I mean, he can wrestle his illegitimate son, Miles Born.
Speaker 1: But I'm with the internet. I did see a photo
this week. I thought it was Randy Orton.
Speaker 2: I did the one outside the performance center when you're like, I.
Speaker 1: Thought that it was Randy. I literally thought it was Randy.
No meme like that guy needs to grow at his hair.
He needs to grow at his hair and get it long.
He used to change everything about him because he looks
like a Randy Clone.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so and I know they had like joked
about it, but I would not be opposed to Nick
Ldis coming out of retirement and having that match because
I think Nick Ldis can take the pin in this
and it wouldn't be I mean, it doesn't hurt anybody.
The man's been he's the out of Yeah, he's a GM.
He hasn't been in a ring in so long. Like,
so if he he puts on that and he comes
out and you highlight the fact that he is a
former world champion and things like that then, which.
Speaker 1: They do now. They don't not talk about other promotions now.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, champion, Yeah, champion you know like he yeah,
and that's that's the one that you highlight. You highlight
the fact that he beat Cody for the n w
A Championship that because that that builds him up. Yes,
he is a former TNA champion, but if you build
him up as the man who beat Cody for the
n w A champion ship, that is a bigger deal.
The other option is if you're going to go with
t n A, I think that this would be a
good time just for the Pop bring out Joe Hendry.
Of course he's going to eat the pin and then
you can say we beat your world champions, we beat
your world champion on WrestleMania, but we let your world
champion on WrestleMania. So it's one of those things if
we gave you a shine on the biggest stage, but
we get to win, No.
Speaker 1: And then you get him to be TENA Champion, then
a backlash John CW Champion Randy or ten Champion unification
and then seen as TEENA Champion.
Speaker 3: But that's when he goes to Japan to face the
ton of Hash. He comes out with the championships.
Speaker 1: If it beats, he becomes number one contender for the
nj w P Championship, and then the Rock meets with
Tony Kahan and they get Moxley Versusina and that who
ends Moxley's reign. And you just got seen all these titles.
Speaker 2: But I did doing the Ultimate Dragon post on the belt.
Speaker 1: He has the Woman's Pure Ro Championship too, you know.
Speaker 2: But Nick All, this would be my my top that's me.
Speaker 1: It's like that's a good mini two week story of
all this like threaten him a little him through like
that's like, that's where it's okay. If you're gonna do
anything as a story, don't just have like solo com
be like oh rand you lose or not a Mania.
It's like, dude, you weren't on WrestleMania a couple of
weeks ago, regardless, like it, and it sucks because yeah,
the Ko match was I think gonna be really good,
and man, that sucks. I hope it's not like an
Edge stone Cold one. I hope it's like a Chomp
or someone else where. He's gone for like, you know,
six months of healing time. But uh, it sucks, man,
And that's a big player to lose. So hopefully one
day he's gonna come back to that pop. I guess
you could another one people throw out Sammy. I still
feel like it's really weird Sammy's not on Mania, Like
I don't know why. It's not even the ic multi man.
It's just I'll give kudos to s Bubbs. You predicted
that after the Chamber Show and I said, no way,
Sammy's miss WrestleMania. He just is, so I don't know,
and he's into he's on that fucking comedy show. So
I have no idea why He's like that's like a
main guy. Like, I'm that's a weird choice, like just
like I said, making them selling the power. I guess yeah,
But I've seen people pitch the whole like, oh, you
took out Kevin and he is my best Friend's like
I don't think that works, and even Sammy and Randy,
It's like I just don't know if that story works.
But s Butu's do you have any any pitches for
Randall Keith Orton to do it Mania with Okao?
Speaker 3: I do like the all this idea, I hope I
wish to haven't I mean they haven't officially. You think
they would have announced Solo just but the thing I
also saw people point out is like Solo came out
and like he didn't even say he wanted to fight
Randy at at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: True, I just thought they're gonna try because they fought
to the crowd, and.
Speaker 3: I just but another thing people said is like maybe
they fought to the crowd just so you have the
fought to, like you don't want to have Randy and
fought to like in the ring or something.
Speaker 1: My worries or just like Nick's like, oh, it was
old bad last week. We need to have this match
and we're gonna do what I may like. That's my
worry about the crowd fight. It was, oh no, they can't.
Speaker 3: I feel like Sola's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But I do.
Speaker 3: I do wish shows all this. I think that would
be fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any other random picks like a
Joe hen or anybody else that's like Mike Goldberg? Do
you have like a good meme one like we talked
about Discord. We don't may be Black or Rusa because
we think they they want to win and stuff, you know,
take her out there one more, you know, extend.
Speaker 3: The three minute match.
Speaker 1: The other way around. Randy just and punts him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know it's eat healthy yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could have been fun. That sucks that they're missing.
And again since who knows what the fuck's going on.
I know when it was injury, But same thing with
this Bliss stuff that's super weird comes back, Mega Pop
signs a new deal, Chamber Pop the Rumble. Yeah, he
super weak, super weird. What's going on? The fuck? Have
him versus Alexa Bliss? You know I Alexa Blisses beat
him in a match before, had that? Had that come back?
You know?
Speaker 3: So I honestly I'll put something in the discord here.
I was looking away because apparently there's leaked blueprints of
the WrestleMania stage.
Speaker 1: What are we doing like a bank here?
Speaker 3: If you want to see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can put it in there. I'll put
it in the next one. So we got eighty styles
versus logan Paul, I don't care about this. Let's see here. Oh,
that'd be a massive stag.
Speaker 3: It appears to have also a ramp for some sort
of car entrance.
Speaker 1: Oh, a Stone Cold with his fucking ATV. Probably right,
he's gonna come down.
Speaker 3: I mean it looks like some sort of like sports car,
so I assume just somebody coming out of but it
kind of takes a motorcycle. It kind of looks like
a I don't know, like a Vegas casino type. Yes,
huge stage. Do this. That's the leaks. It's been looking
like like maybe a thirty nine size stage, just like
a massive, massive state.
Speaker 1: I'll put it in there. You see that building there.
This is why you do. Randy Worton versus Jeff Hardy.
You have Jeff Hardy fucking jump off that thing for
the swan Tawny misses. I know you have Randy Ketch
with Arguo. Yeah, we'll see a Siles logan Paul have
not made me care about this. Well, I'm not even
saying as loan Paul. I just like it's been a weird,
like I'm gonna call you out, You're gonna call me out.
It's like the logan Paul, we need an athletic match.
It's gonna be athletic match. They're gonna do cool spot
logan Paul is gonna win and then he's gonna maybe
he could he could also be a Jay Usso title
competitor too. I've said this before my personal stuff side Paul,
because like I just the Paul brothers are just anomally.
It's like I wish I didn't have to see on
my TV with the logan pol character. He just needs
to evolve now. Even Ag said that in his promo
of like you gotta you can't just wrestle Good. It's like, well, yeah,
according to w W, you can't because every time the
press carns like who does things other people doesn't do,
It's like, well, yeah, because he has fucking training camps
for all his matches, bro like, like even Rondo was like,
I wish I got that, Like you guys throw me
out to the Wolves, So I just want do like something.
We just kind of know the routine with him. But
Logan Paul wins this, AJ's final to take the loss.
AJ's on his you know, last times out, and I
hope AJ gets some fun stuff after resume a season,
but anything night too. This will kind of be me
checking out here. But yeah, Logan Paul getting to win.
Anybody else thinking AJ gets a win here at all?
I wish, but no, he's there to eat it. Yeah,
he's there to eat it. We got the newly established
Live riqual versus Lyra and Bailey for the titles. I
think I think this could be a good match, and
I think Judgment Day takes us.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't see a title change happening here.
Speaker 2: Especially if Dominic's win in earlier.
Speaker 1: You get those photos and then Finn's a loser. Car
Litle has his copy of two K whatever you know,
and then I'll be excited too. And JD gets back
to see if JD goes with Finn or he also
turns on Finn. We'll see what happens there. I'll take
that back. I won't say I'm excited, but I'm intrigued.
Excited might be too high. But finally Cody Roads versus
John Cena. David, I'll start with you, what do you
think of he'l se you know so far? And who
do you think is get the win for the main
event of WrestleMania forty one Big Time. They've been doing
lots of promos about history of championships seen and since
he's gonna leave, Cody had all the championships last night
or two nights ago, what are you what are your
thoughts on the feud and the end of the match.
Speaker 2: So, since I wasn't here last time, I will say
that I am still heartbroken about being broken up with
by John Cena, even though I did not know bludged
And yeah, his his heel turned has been I would
say better than mediocre. But it hasn't been like career
defining it. It hasn't been just like, oh my god,
this is this price of John Cena I've been wanting
to see. Yes, his promos have been great, but it's
basically just him talking real. It's it's nothing groundbreaking. It's
nothing that's going to make the kids cry. Really, this
isn't you know whok Cogan turning and joining the nWo
back in the day. There's nothing about this that just
makes you go, oh my god. I did not see
this coming. How could you? I can't believe it. It's like, yeah, man,
we've been yelling Diecena and Sina sucks and all this
for years. Like the man finally just said, all right,
efitt So, but I think that at the end of
the day, Cody's gonna win it.
Speaker 1: I don't think Cody's gonna win.
Speaker 2: I think Cody's gonna win. I don't I don't think
that they give the the final Sena title reign right here,
right now?
Speaker 1: Really when else we're taking down the guy's still barely
around now, Oh my god, that's all that's a hot
take to me because I've I think Cody's looking at
those lights and he's chasing. I just think, like, if
you turned seen a heel to lose at Mania, like
what was the point then they should have just done
baby versus baby, then you know like that. I've been
fine with the promos. I'll think that back promos have
been great. I think it is like a weird motivation.
It doesn't fit. It definitely feels like this is the
promos he wanted to do in twenty twelve, where it
hasn't like everyone thought the story was clear of oh,
he's teaming up with the Rock because scene doesn't know
if he can actually beat Cody. He's gonna need some help.
That's never been touched upon. They've never other than Cody
being like you can't wrestle, like that's been the thing.
Don't know why Johnsene's not once talked about the Rock.
It's very very odd. I don't know why. It just
feels like, now did Dwayne feel like he had to
be a part of this moment? If so, it's like
we didn't need you there for that. It was it
was cool when we thought we were getting like some
New World of Order sort of shit with like something changing.
It's not. It's a very it s has nothing to
do with the company. It has nothing to do with
the Rock finding a brother. It's just purely just had
enough with the fans. But like Sena could have just
low blowed Cody at any time, like he didn't need
the Rock to be there to do any of this
like it it was. I'm still holding out, uh my
full opinion because I am on the other side. I
think Sena's gonna win, and I think Rock will be
there at Mania, and I think they're gonna do more
with the story. And maybe they just couldn't get the
schedules aligned, but it will be something in my like
decisions of the year not seen a turning heel. It'll
be Travis Scott and Rock being there for the heel
turn if they do nothing with this, because again Rock
said in his promo, he's trying to find a brother.
He's trying to find someone to lead the company for
like the next decade. He picked Sina. Okay, doesn't make sense,
but tell me why Rock's been gone and Sina. It's
like Sena got lobottomized. He didn't even remember that he
joined sides with the Rock Like. But I just think
for me, it's like the jay Uso thing where if
Sina turns heel and he just loses, I like, to me,
I feel like it's kind of a kind of a waste,
like he kind of did it for nothing, even if
Sina were to have it for a month or two.
But I think Cody's gonna lose it. He's gonna go
back on the chase. And I think Cody will be
back here WrestleMania next year, whether he wins a third rumble,
whether he wins a chamber, or whether he's champion again,
which I actually think is gonna happen. I think he's
gonna be the one that beat Sena. I think Cody
will be back here. Maybe that's when they do Roman
and Cody three, because uh, maybe they're saving it for that.
But I think Cody's taking the loss here. Selsey, We're
not gonna he's smacked down before, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: Part of my reason behind that is the SmackDown versus
Raw Association. If the belt was still on Raw, I'd
have more of a chance of him winning. I think
that there is a chance he could lose here. He
is still on his I'm going to break Ric Flair's record.
He goes over to Raw and then starts after the
World Heavyweight Championship.
Speaker 1: Poor Jay, Cody wouldn't do the job, but we need you.
We need you to do the job for Sena and
and him.
Speaker 2: He would still break that record because it still counts
and it's Raw, so Netflix is going to want him
on their brand and everything else.
Speaker 1: I think Draft though in May though, so couldn't you
just have seen a win it. He's on smack Down
a couple of times. Then they just flip them, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think last year they said the champions didn't change brands. Yeah,
I mean they can just change the rules.
Speaker 1: Oh they can, should don't, Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They'll they'll, they'll, they'll do the Charlotte belt exchange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, him and Jay exchangeing belts. He's like, I got
the fucking spinner belt now and both brands have the
spinner belts. It's like that time when they said, like
what was the WrestleMania, Oh the exchange or whatever, the
talent change. Yeah, they're like, oh, it's over. And then
the next week they're like, oh they exchange, like someone
came back. It's like what you said, it was over.
So yeah, they can. They can make up whatever they want.
Oh Sina's switching brands or Jay's switching brands or whatnot.
Speaker 2: So no, I think he pops over to Raw and
then that's where he chases. I don't know. Also, what
his production schedule is. I don't know if Peace maker
season two has wrapped yet.
Speaker 3: I don't know season two is done. I think it's
releasing this year.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he's still movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got two other things that are like in
production right now, so I'm not quite sure like his
full availability where I think that Cody is still selling
those tickets right now, Cody at that it's still moving
and selling tickets.
Speaker 3: Well, Cody is not advertised for any ww show after
WrestleMania for like a full month.
Speaker 1: That could be.
Speaker 2: That could be them, like they have ruined in the
past some stuff by doing that.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I don't think David. I don't
think it's one hundred percent. I think that there's still chances.
Don't get me wrong. I think there's a chance Cody wins.
And I do think. I'm not gonna say to start,
but that could be the origin point of people starting
to turn on Cody because the same way I said
about Rhea, that could be the same way of like, well,
we just want Cody to beat Sena and have that
like tap passing the torch moment, and we thought it'd
be better if Sina was a heel because there's people
like you do there's people said, oh, don't do baby
versus baby, so they might have said, hey, we really
want to do Scena and Cody. Remember the pitch supposedly
wasn't Cody Rock pitched Cody turned heel first, and Cody's like, nah,
I'm not doing that. So like there could have been
a version where that was always a plan Cody be
a heel and Cody. If Cody was a heel, he
wouldn't have lost the Scena. So, don't get me wrong,
I think there's a good chance Cody is not a
good chat. There is a chance, and the internet could
be a fucking a blaze, so it's gonna be like, oh, Cody,
he's a fucking Hogan type. He beats Sena Like what
a waste. I do think there is a chance, the
same way that when Roman beats seen in the or
Cody the first time, everyone's like like what the fuck,
Like why'd they do that? That felt like a waste
of the moment. I do think there's a chance. I
think it's like ten percent. So don't get me wrong.
I think Cody's losing, but I did. We could be
here night too talking about oh Man, like it was
just the passing the torch and now Cody's like the
guy guy and now he's gonna like.
Speaker 3: Just sna turns face, raises Cody's arm, hugs him.
Speaker 1: I pitched that I because I can't remember. Sometimes someone
was in the chat last episode asking about like, oh,
how could see a turn face? Just do you exactly what?
They didn't rest me eighteen the Hogan ran the Rock
over with a truck and then weeks later they're hugging
and kissing on my rais arms are all you need
to do is Cody wins tras Scott in the Rock
or back out there beating him again, and this time
Sena's like, no, I'm not gonna do it, and then
he hulks up and they beat him and that's the ending,
right Like you could easily turn Sena babyface just like
that with my finger.
Speaker 2: My thought is Cody wins, they still try the whole
jumps him afterwards Rock because like you said, Rock is
looking for someone to lead the next generation. That's not Sena,
So Sina, you couldn't get the job done. Here is
here is whoever my new person is, who's going to
you know, lead us? It could even be That's how
you get Alistair black Back or someone else. No, I know,
but you could have someone else. Okay, you didn't get
the job done, but you weren't my pick to lead
the next generation. You were just my pick to beat
this guy. You didn't get the job done. Here is
my overall pick to lead the next generation.
Speaker 1: How do you see it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think scene is winning. Yeah, like you said,
I feel like it's one of those like it'd be
like a waste of of a moment. I feel like,
and if you're gonna have just his last WrestleMania match,
I feel like you have to do just to have
that he wins in the main event at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we will see will be there break all that.
No matter what, I think that match is going to
be very entertaining. I do think Sina could do some
very heel slow wrestling. But I think they grant the
crowd with them, and I think it's gonna be a
good time. There's gonna be a lot of standing around.
I'll look in the crowds. It's gonna be.
Speaker 3: But I do you think it's gonna be like a
like a bloodline rules type match where people just start
coming out or do you think they're just hell, yes,
straight up just the wrestling like this, like Cody Roman
won before the interferor stuff.
Speaker 1: I think it's that. No, I actually don't think it's
bloodline rules because like who would come out for Cody
right now, like Sammy's you finally get the People's champion
versus the People's Champion. No, like, uh, he's not ready
for that. That's where my pitch was gonna be, is that.
I think Sena and Cody the rematch will be the
you know, the se Nation rules, the Nightmare rules, Like,
I think that's where they'll build it up. We talked
about like war games and stuff. I think for match one,
it's like Cody's an idiot who didn't learn his lesson,
has no help there. But like Samy's gone, what's.
Speaker 3: The thing with the big made me laugh when you
told me about the rock and Sena Like, oh, he
just had like he just got the best of him,
like today or whatever.
Speaker 1: Michael Cool said, Yeah, he got the ball with like
the last time remaining. It's like he's like, oh, it's
like the team who got the ball last in a
football game. It's like no, like he beat him one, two, three,
that's not how it works in wrestling, but yeah, that's
what they'll Yeah, I think there's for sure interference. And
then I think too like you can have seen a
beat Punk and beat other people like Randy, and that's
how you can get the bloodline where Cody gets his team,
he gets Randy, he gets Punk, he gets if Saints
comes up. So I think you could do that for
Summer Slam or Survivor Series whatever. But uh, yeah, we'll see,
we'll be there review it and then quickly because we
went along, so we can just go quickly over the card.
For what we did for aw Dynasty off see, I
think most people would say a great show that had
a very controversial uh ending. Of course, we're still in
the Moxley era. Listen. I've always said that they should
lost title. I was off the bandwagon when they kidnapped
the Midnight Express. I I it was not for it.
If he goes because I get it, everyone's pitching the
wrestles dream thing. If he goes past the wrestled dream thing,
I think or all In, that to me is a
mistake because all In's like your WrestleMania, that's your big moments.
I think you just picked the person. Darby's not ready.
We've always said Darby can win another time. Make the
story Moxley versus Darby, not like Max has to lose
the title Derby. I didn't mind the swerve Moxley match.
I think that's also point contention. I did not like
the off the edge in Moxley match and then the egg.
I'm not somebody to the edge of Moxley second match.
I thought that was much much better. I'm not somebody
like fighting with RVD on Twitter about the spikes. And
I'm also not the guy who's like they shouldn't do that.
They can do that. For me, I was just like
that was super dangerous and super like that's this I
watch saw but even seeing that was like, this is
as far as it should go in professional wrestling. But
I'm also not being the guy who's like, oh my god,
aw's ruining. Know, it's like, no, you have they should
be doing that stuff to stand out. And other than
last week, the ratings have been like up the past
five weeks. Now. Again, Tony is probably gonna think that
that's the problem, like all this data right, But yeah,
I wish word would have got it. Thought it was
fun enough. But I'm gonna just hope. I'm gonna say
it has been all In. They're trying to make that
their WrestleMania. I'll go to the Moxley Defender. Now, mister
s Bobb's, uh, you do you think it's legitimately going
past all In? And then what do you think about
the Dynamite or the Dynasty main event there?
Speaker 3: Do I think it's actually going past all In? I
don't know. I feel like i'd say if they didn't.
That was what I was thinking with Dynasty too. I
think if the Death Riders lose like their their trios
titles before then, which I think could happen now that
Popkins out and they have like mock subbing in, I
think eventually, at least by all In he'll lose. But
I think but it'd be funny if he did win,
especially in like the main event.
Speaker 1: Oh god.
Speaker 3: And but for the main event of Dynasty, I didn't
really like the match. I thought it was just kind
of boring, even with like the table spot and like
the Swiss on through. Like I said it in the
discordener were watching, It's like they're doing cool stuff, but
I'm not really like interested in it. I don't know,
because it's like they did that, but then they just
rolled back into the ring and started doing like chops
and then back to just like grappling each other.
Speaker 1: I love to grapple. Yeah, what about you, David, what's
your take on the the You know, we've talked about
that's what we're not doing long column because we talked
about months ago. I think we all said, Okay, it
should have been over, but it's not where they're doing
the whole. And I get what people are comparing because
I was somebody that thought Cody should beat Roman Resume
forty thirty nine. I had the moment. Luckily, what we
got it paid off in the moment. Thought we already
had were too long. Bloodline had much more interesting characters
where they've not fleshed out even though, like you know,
I supposed to going to meme on them, they've fleshed
out you toa more than they did. Park and Claudio
and Marina at least there was like a mini story there.
The other three like not really they stand around and
just look tough, you know, like that's all they do.
And Moxley has like a story. It's just a story.
I care about kind of like Rome, right, I didn't
care about Roman story near the end because like, hey,
we've been doing this for so long, same thing as Max.
He'd win the exact same way of like someone's in
a fucking hood and then boom this time it's just
now the light's going. I guess it's the Bucks. But
where are you now, David? On the main event picture
right now with Awn all In? Is that are we
calling it?
Speaker 3: There? Stops on the Hangarmans were against.
Speaker 1: The all right, yeah, talk about that yago.
Speaker 2: So as far as the main event of Dynasty, it
was a John Moxley match. You could take that how
you want. And I'm kind of over them. I need
a title change, I need him out of the tidele
make sure it's not that I'm necessarily over mocks himself.
I'm just over this reign and over how it's going.
I'm over not seeing the world title. Like again, this,
this is your title. I don't want to see some
weird great briefcase that Marina Shafir's walk around with. I
want to see the actual title, Like I want someone
to have that prize that they're fighting for. See, I
think it's time to drop this. I think it's time
to move on from the mox being the top guy
for your promotion, Like it's time to start working on
some of those other things, whether it's building up will
Osprey through the Owen or having someone else come in
either Swerve or Hangman. Going back to that position would
be great. I think you've kind of devalued MJF, so
it's gonna be hard to put him back in that spotlight.
Speaker 1: At least right now, he's just fucking waiting for ww
He's just like everyone's waiting, like I.
Speaker 2: Mean the Manhattan to remove.
Speaker 1: So yeah, again, I still don't know if that's a shoot.
I want to see that leg non wrestling thing because
makeup can do it. But like just because we're not
gonna say much about her syndicate, I I like Sheldon,
that's about it. M VP's fine. I don't know what
the fuck they're doing with the story. Why why is
there like a story with four people being tweeners. I
don't understand what the hell is going on? Like why
is why does m jeff.
Speaker 3: Want they were like him helping him, like not him
not helping them or helping that. It's like you're helpless
enough even though they did the.
Speaker 1: One and he was a knock up blow he him
and they put him in the ring that he want.
It's just like, yeah, like what do you want him
out there? Like like I don't know. I guess they
want him as a manager, but then they already said
don't help us, So it's it's a confusing story all
from the standpoint and then they're like, oh, you gotta
earn it. What else is m Like I really don't know,
And I like, is the selling point supposed to be like, Oh,
we're gonna get MGF versus Bobby Lashley, Like that's not
a selling point to me. Like it to me just
feel like all parties are like we're just waiting the
mgs' contracts up and he's gonna go to the FED,
and we all, in my opinion, we know I know
M Jeff's it's like, oh, I'll go over the money goes.
I guarantee you Tony's paid him so much money he
can take a fucking pay cut and go to WW.
And I do think WWE won't want him. There is
a plethora of fucking stories to tell MJFF.
Speaker 2: And WWE, Like I think WW will want him, and
I also think Cody will look out for him.
Speaker 1: I think that their history make like make that the
fucking rock soul guy. Mjeff would sell his soul on
a fucking second like that to me, imagine that if
he were to come out and that's the Rocks guy
with the Cody history, like that is fucking money feud.
This's just other than like a couple matches like Swerve
and like I guess they did Kenny, but like there's
a couple of programs they should do with MJFF. But
there's there's nothing for him to do here. And again
they turned him here, but the crowds like they're they're
cheering him again. The crowd can never under decide nears
Tyler Rain. People are bored of them and Boone and
now he's a heel again and they're cheered, Like just
a couple months ago he tried to cripple Daniel Garcia.
Now they're doing the he's our scumbay chance again. So
it's like, I don't know, man, Like none of you
can do. Tony can't decide, the fans can't decide, and like, yeah,
I can't be MJF. But back to the swarve Hangman stuff.
I do wish Swerve beat him, and I wish we
just went Swerve beat him. Hangman wins the Owen. That's
the end of the feud right there. All In for
the title in Texas, they're both tied one apiece. Actually no,
Swerve's up one so like whatever, I do think there's
tons of money in Swerve and Hangman as a tag too.
I love like that is like shield elead or or
lower shit. When they did the you deserved it, I know,
I was like, oh my god, and legitimately that made
an e up to me was fine. I liked it
more than other people. When Hayman came up, I was
on my feet when he was on the rope, so
I was like, oh my god. Here.
Speaker 2: I thought they were going to do the spot that
I was talking about where he has to decide which
one he's gonna hit him, like here we go, here
we go.
Speaker 1: He kind of was yeah, and like, you know, hit
them versus Bucks, that'll be like I think that will
actually be good. Bucks will deliver. They'll have a great
match with those two.
Speaker 3: I think there's lots of hangar in will have not
had a singles match on all in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, he's always throwing these things like.
Speaker 3: The gauntlet match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then at least this is a big thing
where they can get the win and then Swerf can
get his win back from Bobby because that was a
weird thing. Bobby like didn't squash him but beat him
pretty easily, and then they just dropped the future.
Speaker 3: There was a supposed rumor that they didn't want to
work with or lastly or maybe the hurt syn kid
didn't want to work with Swerve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is weird. But it's like again, power up
and like that's who, Sorry, Sheldon Bobby, That's who you
should be losing your bells to is hang in and Swerve. Like,
I don't care how munch people like to chant. We
heard people. It's like for me, it's just like it's
not bad TV. It's almost like I suppose you're talking
about the main event. For me's just boring TV. Of
like the hurtsiting that come out, they chant, they kind
of squashed for a little bit, they get some shine,
and then the match is over and then they.
Speaker 3: Do he walks out the jobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love Sheldon Bobby. I'm like I used
to be hey o in O four as a kid,
I fucking love Bobby Lashy and GM mode. I was
booking him as my champ all time. I love Bobby,
but I just like I have no interest in him
really right now in this current day and age. So
I think, hey Man Swarp has tons of money as
a as a tag team. I just think you could
have done that still later. You didn't have to get
there now. But they're doing the Moxley stuff and I
guess Osprey will win the Owen and God, I hope.
I hope Osprey wins, Like I agree with people where
he wins and then for bid doors in London. Perfect,
he can go in there as a champ. He doesn't
win in London, but whatever, it's the same thing of
like do we need to wait another year for Osprey
to be the guy? Like don't do that? Like that's
like to me, that's a great picture of like Osprey
is the champ, Omega is the International Continental Chain hang
Man and uh Swerve as the tag champ, and then
Tony is the woman's champ and then Merced Like that's
like that's a fucking line up right there, Like look
like that's a great rebuilding phase. You know, but I
really don't know what they're gonna do, because Tony says, Oh,
we're sticking, We're sticking with it, you know, like he
says he listens to fans. I get it. I I've
told these guys. I still think Moxley has his format
gunpoint because I just think, like the same scenario gave
David with the Charlotte thing, I legitimly think.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's like he was looking, he was looking,
he was not happy with how he was in aw
and then suddenly he comes back and wins the title
right away.
Speaker 1: And to me, I think it is a thing that
if they don't play out the story, Moxley's for sure gone.
I think if they play the story, there is a
chance the next contract comes up. Moxley stays, I actually
think there it's more a chance. There's always a time
where de Wie could get him. But I think if
he does not see through the story, Moxley's out of
there because he knows you will pay a lot of money.
There's a story of Roman, there's a story with Seth Like,
there's a bunch of you can God, you could even
do someone with Punk if you really want to. Yeah,
there's something there and even the new Town there's tons
of new talent. Moxy doesn't work with the WWE, right, so,
like I think, and I'm at the point where it's
kind of like, dude, so Charlotte, I'm like, it's not
worth it. Like if he's gonna be pissed and go
let him go. You got other people, you got tons
of stars. AW is not where it was three years ago,
but it's also still like it's been climbing. It still sells,
like they still make tons of money on pay per
view buys. They're in a great spot right now, like whatever.
All in like, still's a good amount of crowd, Like
you're fine, Moxley's not gonna be the make or break
for AW. I think there's other people that would hurt
more than Moxley. Not say Moxy is not important, don't
get me wrong, but sometimes you just gotta sit down back.
This isn't exactly working. But then it's tough if like
if they're like, oh but the Twitter views and the
YouTube views, it's like are people watching that an ironically though?
Like are people like hate watching it? Like I don't know,
so let's see it was anything Kenny defeated Ricochet and Speedball.
Great match that was tons of fun. I like long matches.
I actually think it went on a little too long.
I think they missed their crescendo of like the perfect ending.
But I've not seen much of Mike Bailey. He's he's
a very fun guy. I love the Ricochet commentary spot
they threw back too.
Speaker 3: And the only thing I think with Mike Bailey, the
thing was he wasn't in like the US for like
a long time because of like some visa like he
was pretty much like banned.
Speaker 2: From Yeah, he's he's Canadian. He was in TNA for
a very long time. He used to team with Ethan Page.
They had a martial arts gimmick together. And yeah, he's
been out for a little while once his contract was
up with TNA before going to AW he had some
visa issues with the whole not working here but I'm
gonna be working there. The weirdness that they do even
though you have a job but you're still not working
like they can't. Yeah, it was a weird thing. So
that's what kept him out for a while. But yeah,
he's he's fun. He's fun. I didn't have any thoughts
on him winning this, but Mike Bailey puts on a
good show Ricochet. I'm liking more and more of this
version of Ricochet and can you make it just one
of the greatest wrestlers in the world.
Speaker 1: And I love what Kennybody's doing. He's doing that, but
he's also doing like old man Kenny. There's ultimes the
mass you look over, he's just outside the ring like
like he's like like selling.
Speaker 3: That he's doing he loves he loves selling the diverticulated
any time anyone hits them there, Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: That's why even like there's one point where Mike Bailey
hit a big Ricochet, went for the pin and Omega
didn't even break it up. He was just so tired.
He's like watching the pin. He like you can't even
get there. So the only thing I thought was weird.
We all thought it was weird. O'cada comes out and
he just fucking bounced. It was the weirdest. It was, like,
why even do it? Just don't even whatever, like.
Speaker 2: He should have at least acknowledged him, even if he
was to say not today or I'll see you next time, something,
but just turn around and turn and tell and booking it. Really,
I think that doesn't make any Omega.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the thing is like they're trying to
tell people that this is the match for all in.
But it's also like there's so many events and paperreas
before them that it's like we can't just announce the
match because that would mean like Kenny's not losing his
title and O and uh Okada is losing his title.
So it's like they kind of have to do as
much teasing as possible without just straight up announcing even
though we know it's happening.
Speaker 1: And I get it Kenny came out last time. It
just it felt weird. But yeah, and that matchup not
on Hummers and sold on. I agree if people want
to call the first Omega and o'conna match greatest match
all the time, I understand. I've just said I think
there is a big time risk doing the tiebreaker match.
I don't know if they can recapture that, and maybe
I'm wrong for dis counting them both. I just I
just think that's a very It's like doing a sequel
to a classic movie. It's you are You're walk on
an eggshells here, So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Garcia, in his first T and T Championship pay per
view debut Our Defense, lost it. I guess he's funeral
with the FTR.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I like this match enough. I don't think it was
as good as what people were hyping the other ones.
And I think I actually heard that from people that
consistently watch Collision. This was actually like the weaker of
the three. But uh, hey, good for Adam Cole. He's
not using that tan as much and he's in good
ship like he he he's clearly had enough of the
memes on the internet and now he's toned. He's gotta
he's getting his fucking a pack back. And I'm interested
in this run and it's good for you know, fun
mo for Adam Cole Garcia. I think they kind of
they dropped the ball in other than not that I
want it. I do agree there could be some fun
if you put him with the Riders, but no, I
think they kind of dropped the bar ball in Garcia there.
Speaker 3: So Yeah, Adam Cole representing the Paragon, God damn that
and that group. Uh apparently that was the thing, like
it was like Trademarks when he first came into a
wh that's gonna be like their faction, Like that was
gonna be the Undisputed Kingdom's faction name. And apparently it's
even mentioned like I think when O'Reilly debuts in aw
they say something like he's the Paragon of pro wrestling
or something like that. So it was like trademark for
a long time, but they just like ice with injuries
and stuff, they just never got around to using it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's coming.
Speaker 3: I mean no, I mean like they're they're like that's
their new their new faction name. Yeah. On Dynamite, it's
like it's like we're still undisputed, but now we're the
Paragon and that's on the website, the Paragon and then
and they just like it's but like they're listed O'Reilly
uh strong, But they even in Ben and Wardlower still
list as Undisputed Kingdoms. They're just like removed from a
w Great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's a messy situation there. Tailans swim and
storm and beat. Meghan Bain really really enjoyed this match. Actually,
I've not seen Megan Bane wrestle much. They actually convinced
me Megan Bane was gonna win here because the first
five minutes they're wrestling like Brock and Sena in Summer Slaying,
where Megan Bane was just throwing her around. But I
love that tiny, tiny, tiny tiles Tony Star. I love
that she's made like the small package like Finisher B.
I actually like get a kick out of it. It
works for this. It was a great match. I think
Tony Storm since she's been back, has been like even
better than she was before. She's must watch TV. When
she's on commentary, she's just like, like I know she
has probably writers helping her out, but she is just
on the best material. And what I was gonna ask
you is any thoughts on the match? But then who
do you think is winning the women's own heart? Because
I feel like there is some up the air there.
So yeah, David, are your thoughts on the current women's
title picture?
Speaker 2: I think so far like it's been good. I really
liked Uh. I like Megan Maine. I liked what she
she put on Timeless. Tony Storm is just she's always incredible,
so what she's been doing, I always smile when she's
on there. As far as who's going to be winning,
I mean it's hard with Athena being in there and
they've been pushing her, and then you've got Mercedes Money,
who's in there. She's got the mid card title. I
have no faith in Billy starsher thunder Rosa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like.
Speaker 2: You see those names and you know it's kind of
set up for who's going to be out quickly. When
you saw Julia Hart versus Mercedes Money, you knew who
was going to be out. Alie Cameron versus Athena, you
knew who was going to be out quickly. Like it's
it's kind of been set up for that. I could
see a situation where they finally give Jamie Hater a chance.
But at the end of the day, I think it's
gonna be Mercedes going for another belt and is gonna
be just yeah, belt collector Mercedes.
Speaker 1: A lot of people think that because I'm going with
my original discord pitch. I could be completely wrong. But
my pitch was either Athena beats Mercedes or Mersina Mercedes
beats Athena, and that sets of a rematch at all.
In I to me was going with the Athena beating
Mercedes in like a fluke victory and Mercedes wanting that back.
I think I don't just call me because I'm like
a Hater fanboy. But like, I think she's gonna win
because the person that Tony Storm beat the title for,
like way way back when Hater got injured was Jamie Hayter.
They did that quick, like five minute match where Hater
was injured but still wrestled and dropped it to her.
And I think what's gonna happen is she's gonna win
that tourney and she's gonna turn heel because you just
can't have a Bayface hater up against a bay Face timeless,
like that's unfair. So I think it will go. It'll
be like the Kevin Owens thing where Kevin Owens is right,
but he's heel for being right. I think that's what
they're gonna do with Hater. Is hey, like I was injured,
and not only was she's injured, Tony Storm cheated in
that match. She had the help of like Paige and
Ruby Riot. Like I think she's gonna say like she
cheated and now all you guys fucking love her because
she like dresses up in black and white. Like, I
think they're gonna turn haters. That's my pitch is I
think something with Athena and Mercedes that gets them all
in and then Hater versus uh Tony. But don't get
me wrong, if you're thinking about like WrestleMania, like for
aw Tony versus Mercedes is like that's a big bunny match.
They will do that at some point. So if you
were to tell me that's the idea, I wouldn't call
you crazy because like that, if you're trying to think,
what's your biggest women's match, you could do for the
biggest event that is it is Tony versus Monette, And
I really don't know who would win that. I could
see it going either way.
Speaker 3: So what about you, Yeah, I'd say I'm between like
you said, I see your Hater pick. I think stat
Lander is also a possible winner, especially like if it
comes down to her versus Mercedes, I could see her
maybe getting the the win back. But I mean it
could also be with I'd say, like you say, maybe
Athena beats Mercedes in some way, then Mercedes like costs
Athena in like some way or distraction and then that
sets up their match. But I think I think it's
more so between Statlander and Hater.
Speaker 1: Okay, and there are the finals of that then so,
oh god, that picture you share the guys himself on
a pole match.
Speaker 3: Also, speaking of the tournament, what's your your guys thoughts
on the the wild Card and the men's Owen Heart Tournament.
Speaker 1: Don't make a Jack Perry. I don't don't do that.
I agree with people that I think.
Speaker 3: Thoughts on on Jeff Jr.
Speaker 1: No, No, make Jack Perry over Jeff Jared, I honestly
will I don't want there. I'm hoping it's Alexander because
they signed him. It's been quiet. But at the same time,
do you want Joss Alexander just to lose the Hangman
right away?
Speaker 2: I'd say it's gonna be someone who can take a loss.
Speaker 1: So then it's I don't know, maybe it is unless
the story is that Hangman gets screwed by Death Riders
or something.
Speaker 3: Right like, if he's losing, that's what I'm thinking happened.
I think whoever it is, he's gonna lose too. But
then I also, at the same time, if it is Alexander,
I don't know if you want him his first win
to just be like, yeah, the death Riders just like
beat up hangmaners of the Earthly Young Bucks.
Speaker 1: I mean and I can't remember last year all In,
did they do some sort of gauntlet or something the
casino gatlet.
Speaker 3: Or wasn't Hangman within the casino gauntlet?
Speaker 2: What was that for?
Speaker 3: Was it just for like a tier for the money
in the bank thing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Okay, And that's when the last the last person was
Lucisaurus and he came out like as Lucasaurus and it
looked like he was gonna betray Christian. I'm pretty sure
who took the pin. It wasn't Hangman, but like he
was then there he was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say maybe not, because I'm
not sure what Alexander's situation is. Maybe they're waiting for
that because he'd be a fun all In like surprise
Entine Like yeah, so I'm gonna say if it's not.
If it's not, I think hey Man will lose. So
it could be Jack Perry to be honest, Like, I
don't know if they should do that, but I think
it could be. But Alexander. Maybe maybe they just go
that he accidentally won and he didn't know they she did,
even though last time in Tina he was a heel,
So maybe they're gonna go that where he doesn't care
like guys are cheating. Fuck, I'm gonna just make hang
Man like pass out here. So maybe that's it. Maybe
they just go like he's a wrestler that doesn't give
a shit, you know. So my only last two thoughts
here was uh, with the trios. I you know, we
all knew they were gonna lose. The tern was coming.
I did really like the FTR turn. I thought that
was very well done. Let's go drama there. I'm very
curious how we get from FTR to edgend Christian because
like Christian, like he's still talking about people's dead dads.
So I really don't know how but we got to lie.
But I thought the angle was really good and I'm
happy FTR is back to being a heel. I think
they're they need to do that. They pulled the spot.
I said this in Discord. One of my favorite wrestling
tropes is they tried to pile drive Tony Shavani last
night and fucking gone, Nigel got up. I love when
a heel calm teriform wrestler defense is buddy because like
the whole time they seem to hate each other, but
it's like no, it's kind of like a but that's
my brother's situation, so I like that. I wonder if
they're gonna fucking destroy Nigel at a later point, don't
really know what they're doing with Garcia being involved. It
seems like, well we need My hope was Garcia.
Speaker 3: Was gonna turn he speaking up with them like a
bit ago.
Speaker 1: I guess, But what's the story now it's like Garcia.
I guess it's to find a buddy and take on FTR.
Like maybe it's Nigel, maybe that's his buddy. I don't know,
but at least hey Garcia's at least he's around, because
sometimes Tony is a bad thing where people lose a
title and then they're just like private party, they're just gone.
So at least Garcia's doing something. And then my last
thought was because I missed the match he had with
Jay White. I've never seen Kevin Knight wrestle before, at
least knowingly. I fucking loved everything Kevin Knight was doing
in that match. I am so excited. I'm so excited
to my next GMO to download a create a wrestlers
Kevin Knight and booked this man to the moon. I
loved everything because what I love is like he's got height,
he's big, and he's doing some cool different variations of
the frog splash. I really enjoyed this guy. My hope
is it's not just Tony's like I got a great
wrestler and then he's just like on r O H,
I don't want that. You put him against Ja White,
put him against Will Osprey. This is a guy that
like turned down a w trout because he you know,
rumor us he didn't want to run the ropes and
he's like, well that's not how it went down. But
still like I get it. He's if he doesn't some
people like.
Speaker 3: He did the the thing he did do the try it.
I think in the end he was like, yeah, I
didn't have any hard feelings about it, like I don't
know why people are are at it.
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing with s people like he
didn't talk to anybody. He went right to aw. There's
some people that and same thing. We're gonna find Maria
Man a couple of months because she's like posting crypt
stuff today where it's like every decision to make. But
to me, Kevin Knight like that was a really good
match with Osprey and kind of like a star making.
Now I'm like invested a c K. What can this guy?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: I want him in the Casino Gauntlet and just doing
cool shit in that match, And like I just became
want to say.
Speaker 3: They're gonna do that like the briefcase thing again, I
don't know.
Speaker 1: I would just be fine if they just made it
for like a title shot instead of the briefcase.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see another briefcase for a while
in a dy W.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just do a number one contender they convert, and
then I'd be completely for like.
Speaker 3: Like a ten million dollars battle or yeah.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Yeah, I'd be fine. It was just hey you
get let's say, yeah Kevin Knight wins it. Hey your
versus Moxley on Diamar, your versus inn Osprey or whatever.
Speaker 3: But uh well yeah for like a for may like
contentiship for all out or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because that's like only in September later.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so that they moved there.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, it's it's in.
Speaker 1: It's not the week after like it used to be.
But still that's an easy setup story of casino Goolet
they win they versus the winner of Moxley versus Asprey,
which you know, maybe it's Moxley. But anything I missed,
I'm not evenna talk about Bandino, Christ Jericho. I'm not
getting d of the second it was what it was.
Bandino worked really hard, That's what we'll say.
Speaker 3: He worked if you can reverse just like any decision
like the Death Riders would have lost, like in their
first match.
Speaker 1: They should they should put swerves am on the crowd.
We're like, no, no, no, the Bucks, the Bucks, they
did this. You know, I will say, only think Bendino,
the elevated sixty second soup lex on, Chris Jericho, who's
not a small guy, very impressive. Bandino always been a
great wrestler. So, uh, anything else of missing before we
end this as we're about to three hour marks, so
it's been a griathy one, all right, So we'll be
back and yes, in the future, that's why we're gonna
do the Goodbye weeklies because in the future we won't
have to speed through certain things like a full AWP review.
But it's Wrestlmating week and like I said, may you'll
get a lot more spread of others stories, free agent
stuff like that that we can talk about and bounce about.
But yeah, we'll be back on Saturday to talk about
WrestleMania at night one, get some draft results, gonna be
I think it's gonna be a very fun Last year
was fun. Restume this year. I think it's gonna be
even funer because there could be some different winners and picks.
But yeah, we'll be back on the weekend and we
probably will not be boring.