WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.000 Hello, this is Tippy Hedron. I've been an actress for 2 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:07.639 a very very long time. I did two films that 3 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:11.560 you might remember, The Birds with Alfred Hitchcock and Marnie 4 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:14.919 also with Alfred Hitchcock and The Count of Hong Kong 5 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:18.600 with Charlie Chaplin. Out of my film career, I have 6 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:22.399 been able to establish the Shambala Preserve where we rescue 7 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:25.960 big cats, lions and tigers who have been born in 8 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:28.879 the United States to be sold as pets. Please look 9 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:32.159 us up and thank you, and I'm very happy to 10 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:33.880 be doing The Doctor Sky Show. 11 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:36.399 Welcome once again, read his elemen, to the exciting show 12 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:39.240 we call The Doctor Sky Show, heard exclusively here on 13 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.240 teen Talknetwork dot com and on the many radio stations 14 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:44.679 around the nation that do air The Doctor Sky Show. 15 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:48.039 A special hello and thank you to our flagship radio station, 16 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:52.119 KFNAX News Talk Radio eleven hundred, as we like to 17 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:55.159 say in our opinion, the fifty thousand WA powerhouse of 18 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:58.240 the Desert Southwest. If you're a newcomer to The Doctor 19 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:01.320 Sky Show, welcome once again. Our normal topics ranged from 20 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:04.799 the topic and subject matter of astronomy, space, aviation, and weather, 21 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:08.439 with special celebrity guests mixed into the mix, and today, 22 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:12.120 Ladies and Gentlemen, an extraordinary guest speaking with Miss Tippy Hedron, 23 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:16.000 Ladies and Gentlemen, American icon, an American actress and a 24 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:19.480 former fashion model with many Hitchcock films to her credit, 25 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:23.519 and her extensive efforts in animal rescue at the Chambaland Preserve, 26 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:27.159 a seventy three acre wildlife habitat which he founded back 27 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:30.079 in nineteen eighty three. Hendrin is the mother of actress 28 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:33.719 Melanie Griffith, and they share credits on several productions, notably 29 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:37.719 Pacific Heights back in nineteen ninety. Mister Phedron not only 30 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:40.719 has had an extremely active acting career, but one is 31 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:43.599 a political lobbyist as well. Her latest bill is being 32 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:46.760 presented to Congress, the Federal Ban on Breeding of Big 33 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:50.159 Cats Act to amend the Lacy Act Amendments of nineteen 34 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:53.760 eighty one to prohibit breeding of exotic bigcat species and 35 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:56.959 for other purposes. And with that latest, gentlemen, it is 36 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.760 a true privilege and honor to welcome Actress Tippihedron to 37 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:02.280 the Doctor Sky Show. Good afternoon, ma'am, and thank you 38 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:02.920 for joining us. 39 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:05.400 Well, thank you I'm very delighted to be on the 40 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:06.640 Doctor Sky Show. 41 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:08.719 Well, ma'am, it's a privilege and honor for our side 42 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.599 of the fence too. And you know, without going into 43 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:13.599 too much detail, or I should say, take as much 44 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:15.879 time as you would like, please describe to us some 45 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:18.639 of the most amazing movies. And I'm a big Hitchcock fan. 46 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:22.560 You're involved into The Birds and Marnie and that alone 47 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:24.439 would probably be what an interview in. 48 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:28.039 Itself if you because actually has done that many many times. 49 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:31.919 And I also am the only actress to have worked 50 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:34.840 with both Hitchcock and Charlie Chaplin. 51 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:36.560 That's phenomenal, yes. 52 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:41.039 It actually it is, you know, to have been directed 53 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:46.360 by two of the most world famous icons in directing 54 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:48.000 motion pictures. 55 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:50.240 Oh, it's an amazing story. And if you'd be kind 56 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:53.080 enough to tell us, I'm reading here through your bio 57 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:56.280 how Alfred Hitchcock actually found you. I think that's a 58 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:58.240 fascinating story for The Birds. 59 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:01.960 Yeah, well, yeah, it was. You mentioned that I had 60 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:03.800 been a fashion model in New York. I was with 61 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:09.560 Eileen Ford for eleven years and it was in the fifties, 62 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:12.840 and of course during that time television took over our lives. 63 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:23.120 And actually it was also the introduction of the television commercial, 64 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:28.280 which became a huge business, and I did. I started 65 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:31.719 doing the commercials, which was really exciting and wonderful and 66 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:37.520 certainly different from still photographs, and I, you know, it 67 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:39.919 was so financially lucrative that I was able to take 68 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:43.199 six months off and go around the world. I called 69 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:44.319 it my college education. 70 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:47.000 That's an education, Yes it was. 71 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:51.400 And I had done a commercial. It was a pet 72 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:56.719 milk product called Seago is a diet drink, and I 73 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:58.560 think I weighed all of one hundred pounds when I 74 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:02.759 did the commercial. And it was a storyline, it wasn't 75 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:06.960 just me holding up a product. And it was a 76 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:09.919 very very sweet commercial with a little boy who sees 77 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:12.840 me walking down the street and whistles at me. And 78 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:16.360 Hitchcock saw as a commercial, and I guess he and 79 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.639 his wife watched the Today Show on which it was 80 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:22.480 running often, and he decided to find out who the 81 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:26.800 girl was where she was. And I was called on 82 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:32.199 Friday the thirteenth of October in nineteen sixty one asking 83 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:36.680 if I was the girl in the Seago commercial, and 84 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.319 I said yes, and he said, well, there's a producer 85 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:42.959 director who is interested in you? And I said, well who? 86 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:44.879 And he said, well, why don't you come over and 87 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:47.279 meet with me and we can discuss it, and if 88 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.600 you would bring any film and put your photos and 89 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:54.519 that sort of thing. So I went over to Universal 90 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.560 and met with this man and who was an executive 91 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:02.000 at Universal, you know, because sort of the first sentence 92 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:05.000 was out of me was well who is this person? 93 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.319 And he wouldn't tell me. He didn't tell me for 94 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:10.800 the entire meeting. And of course that was on a Friday, 95 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:17.959 and I left my ingredients, the film and the photos 96 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:20.920 over the weekend and I went back to pick them up, 97 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.639 and I met one executive after the other, and none 98 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:28.240 of them would tell me who it was. Tuesday morning, 99 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:32.519 I was asked to go to an agency MCA, which 100 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:36.319 is the largest talent agency at that time, you know, 101 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:40.319 in the forties, fifties and sixties. And I was there 102 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:47.240 then that the agent there said, Alfred Hitchcock wants to 103 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:51.600 sign you to a contract. If you agree with the terms, 104 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:56.199 we will go over to meet him. And I have 105 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:59.720 to tell you that I was so thrilled because I 106 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:05.040 had thus moved to California, back to California, and I 107 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.879 had Melanie to support and my career wasn't going as 108 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:13.279 well as I was expecting it to, and I'm thinking, oh, 109 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:14.680 what am I going to do? I don't know how 110 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:18.600 to type, you know, And I have to tell you 111 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:23.600 that I was so grateful and relieved to have this 112 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:27.199 knowledge that I would be able to support my daughter. 113 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:32.360 And of course then we went over to meet Alfred 114 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:35.560 Hitchcock and he opened the door and stood there looking 115 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:40.399 very pleased with himself. And from then that's how it 116 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:46.240 all started. And I frankly had no no idea, nor 117 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.920 did I think it was possible for me to start 118 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.120 in a film. I thought I would be doing his 119 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:52.680 weekly television shows. 120 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:56.759 Yes, so you had no knowledge really of this particular movie, 121 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.399 The Birds at this time, as any of the details. 122 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:03.680 You didn't know it. Yeah, yes, that's amazing. I mean 123 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.319 it's one of my favorite of course Hitchcok. Many folks 124 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:08.360 out there, of course, know the many great films that he. 125 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:12.480 Produced, and you know, The Birds absolutely has a life 126 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.480 of its own. It goes on and on and on, 127 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.560 and there are always there is a new generation coming 128 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:23.680 up all the time that that are fascinated with the movie. 129 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:25.839 A lot of the kids are not you know, they're 130 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:29.879 they're not afraid or anything else. But but with technology 131 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:32.399 as it is today, it takes a lot to scare 132 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:33.279 any of the kids. 133 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:35.439 Now, I can imagine they want to see the blood 134 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.519 and gore and of the days of the sixties. Of course, 135 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:40.839 it was well crafted special effects that were probably very 136 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:41.560 difficult to do. 137 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:44.879 But they did not only difficult, but but looking back 138 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:46.160 at it now, they were funny. 139 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:48.319 Yes, exactly when in. 140 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:52.360 The very very first scene where the bird attacks me 141 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:55.360 in the boat, yes, there was not a bird in 142 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:59.319 sight up and up in the Dega Bay. So this 143 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:03.319 is a later yeah, but in a way that it 144 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:06.839 was not usual. They chipped the boat down to universal 145 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:10.120 put it in the studio. I got into the boat 146 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:13.920 and my hairdresser put two plastic tubes up the back 147 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:17.279 of my head, stopping just a little bit about a 148 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:21.000 half inch before my hairline, and took one lock, put 149 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:23.639 it in front of my face, did my hair do, 150 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:25.879 and then sprayed it, you know, out of you know. 151 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:28.439 So it was almost felt felt like a football helmet. 152 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:31.199 And down below the boat there was the prop man 153 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:34.440 with two canisters, one with blood and one with air. 154 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.120 Which were attached to the tubes that went up to 155 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:40.279 my head. And then the bird, the fake bird was 156 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:47.200 up in the rafters on a wire, and so Hitchcock said, okay, 157 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:49.720 he said action or something, and I had to watch 158 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:52.519 for the bird. I meanwhile, I've got this. Please look 159 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:54.279 on my face because I've just pulled off. He had 160 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:59.320 another prank, you know, up with Bodega bait. And the 161 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:03.360 bird comes down and Bobby Bone of the prop man 162 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:06.799 pushes the lever of the plunger and the blood comes 163 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:10.440 out of my hair. The hair goes forward and the 164 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:12.600 blood comes ter being down my forehead. 165 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:14.600 Oh wow, what a special effect. 166 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:15.720 Isn't that fun? 167 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:18.480 You know? 168 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.320 We laugh about it now because it would be be 169 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.080 accomplished so differently. 170 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:25.559 Now, well, ladies and gentlemen, if you're just joining us, 171 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:29.000 a legend of television and film. Of course, we introduced 172 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:31.519 once again to the Doctor Sky Show, miss Tippy Hedron. 173 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:34.919 A wonderful time that we're spending today reminiscing about her career, 174 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.960 describing to us, of course, the movie The Birds and 175 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:40.240 her affiliation with the great, in my opinion, one of 176 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.799 the greatest of all the directors, Alfred Hitchcock and so 177 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.720 much more, and also your participation in another of his 178 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:49.600 great movies, Marnie. But one of the main reasons we 179 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:52.360 asked your kindness today to be here today is to 180 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:55.799 speak about your involvement in something very very important in 181 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:59.399 many people's minds, and this is the Shambala Preserve. And 182 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:02.240 I wanted to see if I could spend the remaining part, 183 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.639 if not most, of this interview in Suitland and just 184 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:08.240 talking about what this whole preserve is involved, as far 185 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.120 as what it does, how it got started, and let's 186 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:14.279 talk a little bit more about the bill that's being 187 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:16.559 presented to Congress, the Federal Band on the Breeding of 188 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:17.399 Big Catsact. 189 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:21.879 Excellent. Well, because of you know, the films that I did, 190 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.440 I obtained a little bit of celebrity, and I did 191 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.919 two films in Africa and one in nineteen sixty nine 192 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:35.519 nineteen seventy, but you know, started back to back, and 193 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:39.440 during that time, environmentalists were telling the world that if 194 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.440 we the people of the world didn't do something right 195 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:49.159 then to stop the encroaching civilization, sport, hunting, and poaching 196 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:52.879 of the wild animals, by the year two thousands they 197 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:55.559 would be gone. So there was a lot of awareness 198 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:58.759 going out and we learned about the flight of the 199 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:02.799 whale and the panda, a tiger or the elephant, and 200 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:06.159 my then husband, who was a producer and a director, 201 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.919 decided to do a movie, and in kicking around ideas, 202 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.840 those that answer came to us very quickly. When we 203 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.000 were on a photo safari in Mozambique, we saw a 204 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:18.399 house that had been abandoned by a game warden because 205 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:21.399 it flooded during the rainy seasons. He moved out and 206 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:24.360 a pride of lion moved in and we and there 207 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.919 were lions of all sizes, I don't know how many, 208 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:31.600 twenty five sitting in the windows, going in and out 209 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:34.600 the doors, napping on the verandas, and it was amazing. 210 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:38.799 So we thought, bingo perfect, perfect movie site animals that 211 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:42.200 people are enchanted with. Got back to the States. The 212 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:46.159 script was written using sometimes ten fifteen cats in a scene, 213 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:49.279 and we were going to have Hollywood acting animals have 214 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:52.600 a nine month shoot over and out. The trainers of 215 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.919 these lions and tigers read the script and said, there 216 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:59.879 isn't any way that we can do this film. I said, 217 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:02.039 and he said, because of the numbers of animals you 218 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.159 have working together I said, well, that's the way they 219 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:08.240 were living in Africa. Yes, and he said, no, it 220 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:13.159 isn't that. It's because of a natural instinct to fight 221 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:16.919 an animal. They don't know. I don't want my cat hurt. 222 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:19.159 I don't want to be hurt. Get your own animals 223 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:21.480 to do it. Well, there's the sentence. There's the key 224 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:23.200 sentences me. 225 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:23.559 Yes. 226 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:29.639 So first one was a rescue. Little you know, eight 227 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:33.639 week calls lion had been purchased by the doctor who 228 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:36.919 lived in Mandeville County Canyon in Los Angeles. By the 229 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:39.440 time the little lion was seven months old, he had 230 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.080 destroyed the doctor's house and was taking a pretty good 231 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:44.919 chunk out of the doctor. Because a little lion didn't 232 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:47.240 have a four hundred pound mom to say, knock it off. 233 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:49.679 I got to teach us some manners. Nor did he 234 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:52.120 have any siblings with whom to play. So the doctor 235 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:57.080 became the sibling and he was The doctor was screaming, somebody, 236 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:01.600 takes this little monster off my hands. We did, and 237 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.120 that was our first experience with the little allions. And 238 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:06.559 then at one point we had one hundred and fifty 239 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:09.919 big cats that we had rescued, and all during this 240 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:13.840 time I'm thinking because of the accidents that all of 241 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:17.039 us who were hurt making our movie. I was hurt, 242 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:20.679 and my daughter was hurt, our DP, our first assistant, 243 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:23.360 my then husband was hurt so often. They were going 244 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:26.320 to name a wing at the Palmdale hospital after him. 245 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:28.440 Because of course, the animals don't mean this intentionally. 246 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:32.399 It's just that that is their instinct and there's nothing 247 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:34.840 you can do to stop it short of a bullet 248 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:35.279 to the head. 249 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:35.799 Wow. 250 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:38.440 And you know, we were learning so much about them, 251 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:42.200 and I would say, why aren't their laws to stop 252 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:47.519 this insanity? And in two thousand and three I took 253 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:52.120 a bill to my own congressman to just stop the 254 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.600 interstate traffic of these animals being sold as pets. 255 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:59.120 Well, and excuse me for interrupting, but I wanted to 256 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:01.919 ask you to tell me, in your opinion, how bad 257 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:05.679 is the problem, because honestly, other than this particular interview 258 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:08.399 in this story, I've not heard much about this, and 259 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:09.919 that's why I'm glad to have you here today to 260 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:10.919 talk about this. Yeah. 261 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:17.320 Well, actually, the uh, the exotic animal trade is so 262 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:21.240 huge that, according to you United States Fish and Wildlife, 263 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:25.799 it's on a par with illegal drugs. Wow, and when 264 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:30.879 when it gets that big and it's a it's a 265 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:35.399 dirty business and it becomes dangerous. When I was working 266 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.000 on on the Captive Wildlife Safety Act, my life was 267 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:45.799 threatened and the animals that Chimbala were threatened. And you know, 268 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.919 they may be very, very tough, but they're not very smart. 269 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:53.399 They they left the threat on my answering machine. Good, 270 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:56.360 so I called in the authorities and they listened, and 271 00:14:56.919 --> 00:14:59.720 they have a way of knowing whether this is a 272 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:02.519 serial a threat or not, and they said, absolutely it is. 273 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:08.399 So I couldn't. I couldn't leave the preserve unless I 274 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:11.440 drove somebody else's car and I had to rent a car, 275 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:17.200 have somebody with me. I could. I had to have 276 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:21.720 somebody live in my house with me during the time 277 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:25.000 when we were open. They sent the sheriff over to 278 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:27.960 go through everybody's bags to make sure they weren't bringing 279 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.639 in anything that would harm either me or the as 280 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:37.120 the animals. And after a couple of weeks they found 281 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:39.000 out where the man lived and it was out of 282 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:42.519 the state of California. So the i FBI came in 283 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:46.919 and they got him. He was an animal dealer and 284 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:50.519 I had heard about this man and not good things 285 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:55.519 about him, and you know, so I was then very 286 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:58.519 very much relieved, and you know, I could go on 287 00:15:58.639 --> 00:15:59.200 with my life. 288 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.279 Well, you're a very interesting guest, of course, and not 289 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:05.360 just because you're certain celebrity studies and television and film. 290 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:08.240 But I find it fascinating most folks that are in 291 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:10.799 their senior years, of course from Cedrin would be just 292 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:14.759 sipping wine and just retiring. But you're doing something actively 293 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:17.559 to stop in what you consider him. And I think 294 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:21.360 many people listening will easily considered to be a big problem. 295 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:25.000 And the bills that I'm working on now, the federal 296 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:28.679 ban on breeding the exotic sea line for personal possession, 297 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:33.039 is of vital importance. I mean, the lions and tigers 298 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:34.559 are apex predators. 299 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.320 Please please explain that I'm not familiar with them. 300 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:42.360 Yeah, which means that they are that they are head 301 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:45.039 of the head of the top of the line of 302 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.080 the food chain. They are one of four of the 303 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:53.840 most dangerous animals in the world. And yet the United 304 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:58.120 States government says it's okay to breed these animals. They'll 305 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:01.559 give you they'll not only say it's okay to breed them, 306 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:04.599 but to own them. And not only that they will 307 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:08.519 give you a permit through the Department of Agriculture. Now 308 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:11.400 that's all very wrong and it's given given the wrong 309 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:18.000 uh message. And you know these animals are are absolutely 310 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:22.279 they can be so deadly that it's absolutely frightening. 311 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:24.599 And I've heard stories and I think you could, of 312 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:27.400 course elaborate further on this. This is your expertise, but 313 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.279 there aren't there people in different cities that have these 314 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:32.519 animals thinking that they're just common house pets and they 315 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:35.960 realize they're they're much bigger than they could maintain. 316 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:39.880 Yeah, they're they're living everywhere in in the United States 317 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:44.960 and in back of homes there, roadside zoos there. Most 318 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:50.160 of them are in cages that are are not not 319 00:17:50.359 --> 00:17:53.519 well built. I mean, it takes an enormous amount of 320 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.599 strength to keep these animals in is they if they 321 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:00.680 decide to come at you or whatever, there is nothing 322 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:04.200 that can stop them, accept a billet, a bullet to 323 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:04.599 the head. 324 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:07.440 Well, I hate to bring up the story that I 325 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.119 think everybody listening probably recognizes the Sick and Roy show. Yes, 326 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:13.799 we're one of what please explain this better, because all 327 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:16.200 I understood is what one of the tigers bit one 328 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:19.079 of the one of the performers and almost killed them. 329 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:19.640 Is that correct? 330 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:23.759 Well it was Roy. Yes, Well then, and now here's 331 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:27.960 another case of the instincts coming through. Roy had raised 332 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:30.799 monte cor I know, I know Roy and Sigfried and 333 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:35.119 Roy and I've been there and you know they they 334 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:38.200 breed these animals and they raise them, and they their friends. 335 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:40.000 They swim with them in the pools. I mean they 336 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:43.640 you know all this, And on stage while they were 337 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:47.680 doing the show, Roy had a stroke. Now it is 338 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:52.799 it is an instinctive dictate for these animals to take 339 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:57.960 out any being who is not healthy, who is not 340 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:04.000 who is lame, anything physical wrong, physically wrong with them, 341 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:09.359 so they take them out. And that's what Monticore did. 342 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:12.240 He said, whoa, I've got it. I've got to dick, 343 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:17.200 and they the company tried to put a spin on 344 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:22.359 it that Monticare was trying to help Roy, and all 345 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:24.920 of us who are in this business and know these animals, 346 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:27.240 well just said, oh no, no, no, that's not the 347 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:31.000 way it is. That wasn't what was what happened. Monica 348 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:31.920 was going to get him. 349 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:35.240 I didn't know that he that the performer had it. 350 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:36.920 You're saying that he had a stroke and thus the 351 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:39.279 animal's instincts was to finish him completely. 352 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:42.119 Yes, right, and that's exactly what happened. 353 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:44.640 Didn't know that again, ladies and gentlemen, if you're just 354 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:46.400 joining us here on the Doctor Sky Show, a real 355 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:49.079 privilege and honor and a very special treat or special 356 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:52.440 guest is legend of film and television. Her entire career spent, 357 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:55.319 of course, as we all know this Tiphydrin, but also 358 00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:59.359 equally important her involvement and extreme involvement her passion for 359 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:01.759 Shambala dot org. You can visit them, of course at 360 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:05.160 TRIPLEW dot Chambaba dot org on the web, which I'm 361 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:07.720 looking at right now, ladies and gentlemen, And I think 362 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:10.279 it's important messed in the few moments that we have 363 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:12.559 you tell us the progress of the Federal band. I'm 364 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.200 bringing a big cats act. Where is it now? And 365 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:17.240 what do you see will be the outcome of this place? 366 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:20.279 All right? Just yesterday I got the final markup on 367 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:24.680 the bill and I'm absolutely thrilled with it. Great, it's strong, 368 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:30.599 it's short, it's to the point, and hopefully we'll be 369 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.759 able to get it through hopefully in the next six 370 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:37.079 weeks that it will be introduced and there will be 371 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:39.400 a house number. It will then go to the Senate 372 00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:42.920 and when we as soon as we have the house number, 373 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:46.359 we will have it up on our website. And I 374 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:50.559 would urge everyone to really look into this situation of 375 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:54.440 big cats as pets because it is so dangerous and very. 376 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:58.599 Very very righteous cause and one that I think people 377 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:00.920 of course need to know about what's going on. But 378 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:04.160 to scring to us the Shambala Organization, if people were 379 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:05.759 to go to the location. 380 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:07.960 There you have, well, what we do is we try 381 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:12.279 to educate when when when you come here, we're rather exclusive. 382 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:15.359 We feel that the place is for them. We're only 383 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.839 open one weekend a month, but we will and it's 384 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:24.759 everybody loves coming here. They come often to to you know, 385 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:27.640 go through the tour and you can bring your picnic 386 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:31.000 and sit around the lake with us and enjoy that 387 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:35.200 time as well. But when we have many, many different programs, 388 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:37.519 but I think one of the nice we have the 389 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:43.599 adoption program and the membership program and the educational program, 390 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:47.160 and all of those things are very very important in 391 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:52.119 helping us. And we are run to operate totally on 392 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.279 donation including my own. I've never been paid on any level. 393 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:58.759 In fact, about fifteen years ago I donated all of 394 00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:01.839 the land to the Roor Foundations, so the animals will 395 00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:04.559 always be safe. But one of the nicest things we 396 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:06.720 do for them is that they're not in the same 397 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:09.519 cage for the rest of their lives. In fact, they 398 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:12.599 are not in cages. They're in large areas, some of 399 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:17.000 them over an acre who and we move them from 400 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:19.839 one area to another, so they have a different body 401 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:22.720