Speaker 1: Hello, this is Tippy Hedron. I've been an actress for
Speaker 1: a very very long time. I did two films that
Speaker 1: you might remember, The Birds with Alfred Hitchcock and Marnie
Speaker 1: also with Alfred Hitchcock and The Count of Hong Kong
Speaker 1: with Charlie Chaplin. Out of my film career, I have
Speaker 1: been able to establish the Shambala Preserve where we rescue
Speaker 1: big cats, lions and tigers who have been born in
Speaker 1: the United States to be sold as pets. Please look
Speaker 1: us up and thank you, and I'm very happy to
Speaker 1: be doing The Doctor Sky Show.
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Speaker 2: with special celebrity guests mixed into the mix, and today,
Speaker 2: Ladies and Gentlemen, an extraordinary guest speaking with Miss Tippy Hedron,
Speaker 2: Ladies and Gentlemen, American icon, an American actress and a
Speaker 2: former fashion model with many Hitchcock films to her credit,
Speaker 2: and her extensive efforts in animal rescue at the Chambaland Preserve,
Speaker 2: a seventy three acre wildlife habitat which he founded back
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty three. Hendrin is the mother of actress
Speaker 2: Melanie Griffith, and they share credits on several productions, notably
Speaker 2: Pacific Heights back in nineteen ninety. Mister Phedron not only
Speaker 2: has had an extremely active acting career, but one is
Speaker 2: a political lobbyist as well. Her latest bill is being
Speaker 2: presented to Congress, the Federal Ban on Breeding of Big
Speaker 2: Cats Act to amend the Lacy Act Amendments of nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty one to prohibit breeding of exotic bigcat species and
Speaker 2: for other purposes. And with that latest, gentlemen, it is
Speaker 2: a true privilege and honor to welcome Actress Tippihedron to
Speaker 2: the Doctor Sky Show. Good afternoon, ma'am, and thank you
Speaker 2: for joining us.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you I'm very delighted to be on the
Speaker 1: Doctor Sky Show.
Speaker 2: Well, ma'am, it's a privilege and honor for our side
Speaker 2: of the fence too. And you know, without going into
Speaker 2: too much detail, or I should say, take as much
Speaker 2: time as you would like, please describe to us some
Speaker 2: of the most amazing movies. And I'm a big Hitchcock fan.
Speaker 2: You're involved into The Birds and Marnie and that alone
Speaker 2: would probably be what an interview in.
Speaker 1: Itself if you because actually has done that many many times.
Speaker 1: And I also am the only actress to have worked
Speaker 1: with both Hitchcock and Charlie Chaplin.
Speaker 2: That's phenomenal, yes.
Speaker 1: It actually it is, you know, to have been directed
Speaker 1: by two of the most world famous icons in directing
Speaker 1: motion pictures.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's an amazing story. And if you'd be kind
Speaker 2: enough to tell us, I'm reading here through your bio
Speaker 2: how Alfred Hitchcock actually found you. I think that's a
Speaker 2: fascinating story for The Birds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, it was. You mentioned that I had
Speaker 1: been a fashion model in New York. I was with
Speaker 1: Eileen Ford for eleven years and it was in the fifties,
Speaker 1: and of course during that time television took over our lives.
Speaker 1: And actually it was also the introduction of the television commercial,
Speaker 1: which became a huge business, and I did. I started
Speaker 1: doing the commercials, which was really exciting and wonderful and
Speaker 1: certainly different from still photographs, and I, you know, it
Speaker 1: was so financially lucrative that I was able to take
Speaker 1: six months off and go around the world. I called
Speaker 1: it my college education.
Speaker 2: That's an education, Yes it was.
Speaker 1: And I had done a commercial. It was a pet
Speaker 1: milk product called Seago is a diet drink, and I
Speaker 1: think I weighed all of one hundred pounds when I
Speaker 1: did the commercial. And it was a storyline, it wasn't
Speaker 1: just me holding up a product. And it was a
Speaker 1: very very sweet commercial with a little boy who sees
Speaker 1: me walking down the street and whistles at me. And
Speaker 1: Hitchcock saw as a commercial, and I guess he and
Speaker 1: his wife watched the Today Show on which it was
Speaker 1: running often, and he decided to find out who the
Speaker 1: girl was where she was. And I was called on
Speaker 1: Friday the thirteenth of October in nineteen sixty one asking
Speaker 1: if I was the girl in the Seago commercial, and
Speaker 1: I said yes, and he said, well, there's a producer
Speaker 1: director who is interested in you? And I said, well who?
Speaker 1: And he said, well, why don't you come over and
Speaker 1: meet with me and we can discuss it, and if
Speaker 1: you would bring any film and put your photos and
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. So I went over to Universal
Speaker 1: and met with this man and who was an executive
Speaker 1: at Universal, you know, because sort of the first sentence
Speaker 1: was out of me was well who is this person?
Speaker 1: And he wouldn't tell me. He didn't tell me for
Speaker 1: the entire meeting. And of course that was on a Friday,
Speaker 1: and I left my ingredients, the film and the photos
Speaker 1: over the weekend and I went back to pick them up,
Speaker 1: and I met one executive after the other, and none
Speaker 1: of them would tell me who it was. Tuesday morning,
Speaker 1: I was asked to go to an agency MCA, which
Speaker 1: is the largest talent agency at that time, you know,
Speaker 1: in the forties, fifties and sixties. And I was there
Speaker 1: then that the agent there said, Alfred Hitchcock wants to
Speaker 1: sign you to a contract. If you agree with the terms,
Speaker 1: we will go over to meet him. And I have
Speaker 1: to tell you that I was so thrilled because I
Speaker 1: had thus moved to California, back to California, and I
Speaker 1: had Melanie to support and my career wasn't going as
Speaker 1: well as I was expecting it to, and I'm thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: what am I going to do? I don't know how
Speaker 1: to type, you know, And I have to tell you
Speaker 1: that I was so grateful and relieved to have this
Speaker 1: knowledge that I would be able to support my daughter.
Speaker 1: And of course then we went over to meet Alfred
Speaker 1: Hitchcock and he opened the door and stood there looking
Speaker 1: very pleased with himself. And from then that's how it
Speaker 1: all started. And I frankly had no no idea, nor
Speaker 1: did I think it was possible for me to start
Speaker 1: in a film. I thought I would be doing his
Speaker 1: weekly television shows.
Speaker 2: Yes, so you had no knowledge really of this particular movie,
Speaker 2: The Birds at this time, as any of the details.
Speaker 2: You didn't know it. Yeah, yes, that's amazing. I mean
Speaker 2: it's one of my favorite of course Hitchcok. Many folks
Speaker 2: out there, of course, know the many great films that he.
Speaker 1: Produced, and you know, The Birds absolutely has a life
Speaker 1: of its own. It goes on and on and on,
Speaker 1: and there are always there is a new generation coming
Speaker 1: up all the time that that are fascinated with the movie.
Speaker 1: A lot of the kids are not you know, they're
Speaker 1: they're not afraid or anything else. But but with technology
Speaker 1: as it is today, it takes a lot to scare
Speaker 1: any of the kids.
Speaker 2: Now, I can imagine they want to see the blood
Speaker 2: and gore and of the days of the sixties. Of course,
Speaker 2: it was well crafted special effects that were probably very
Speaker 2: difficult to do.
Speaker 1: But they did not only difficult, but but looking back
Speaker 1: at it now, they were funny.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly when in.
Speaker 1: The very very first scene where the bird attacks me
Speaker 1: in the boat, yes, there was not a bird in
Speaker 1: sight up and up in the Dega Bay. So this
Speaker 1: is a later yeah, but in a way that it
Speaker 1: was not usual. They chipped the boat down to universal
Speaker 1: put it in the studio. I got into the boat
Speaker 1: and my hairdresser put two plastic tubes up the back
Speaker 1: of my head, stopping just a little bit about a
Speaker 1: half inch before my hairline, and took one lock, put
Speaker 1: it in front of my face, did my hair do,
Speaker 1: and then sprayed it, you know, out of you know.
Speaker 1: So it was almost felt felt like a football helmet.
Speaker 1: And down below the boat there was the prop man
Speaker 1: with two canisters, one with blood and one with air.
Speaker 1: Which were attached to the tubes that went up to
Speaker 1: my head. And then the bird, the fake bird was
Speaker 1: up in the rafters on a wire, and so Hitchcock said, okay,
Speaker 1: he said action or something, and I had to watch
Speaker 1: for the bird. I meanwhile, I've got this. Please look
Speaker 1: on my face because I've just pulled off. He had
Speaker 1: another prank, you know, up with Bodega bait. And the
Speaker 1: bird comes down and Bobby Bone of the prop man
Speaker 1: pushes the lever of the plunger and the blood comes
Speaker 1: out of my hair. The hair goes forward and the
Speaker 1: blood comes ter being down my forehead.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, what a special effect.
Speaker 1: Isn't that fun?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: We laugh about it now because it would be be
Speaker 1: accomplished so differently.
Speaker 2: Now, well, ladies and gentlemen, if you're just joining us,
Speaker 2: a legend of television and film. Of course, we introduced
Speaker 2: once again to the Doctor Sky Show, miss Tippy Hedron.
Speaker 2: A wonderful time that we're spending today reminiscing about her career,
Speaker 2: describing to us, of course, the movie The Birds and
Speaker 2: her affiliation with the great, in my opinion, one of
Speaker 2: the greatest of all the directors, Alfred Hitchcock and so
Speaker 2: much more, and also your participation in another of his
Speaker 2: great movies, Marnie. But one of the main reasons we
Speaker 2: asked your kindness today to be here today is to
Speaker 2: speak about your involvement in something very very important in
Speaker 2: many people's minds, and this is the Shambala Preserve. And
Speaker 2: I wanted to see if I could spend the remaining part,
Speaker 2: if not most, of this interview in Suitland and just
Speaker 2: talking about what this whole preserve is involved, as far
Speaker 2: as what it does, how it got started, and let's
Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about the bill that's being
Speaker 2: presented to Congress, the Federal Band on the Breeding of
Speaker 2: Big Catsact.
Speaker 1: Excellent. Well, because of you know, the films that I did,
Speaker 1: I obtained a little bit of celebrity, and I did
Speaker 1: two films in Africa and one in nineteen sixty nine
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, but you know, started back to back, and
Speaker 1: during that time, environmentalists were telling the world that if
Speaker 1: we the people of the world didn't do something right
Speaker 1: then to stop the encroaching civilization, sport, hunting, and poaching
Speaker 1: of the wild animals, by the year two thousands they
Speaker 1: would be gone. So there was a lot of awareness
Speaker 1: going out and we learned about the flight of the
Speaker 1: whale and the panda, a tiger or the elephant, and
Speaker 1: my then husband, who was a producer and a director,
Speaker 1: decided to do a movie, and in kicking around ideas,
Speaker 1: those that answer came to us very quickly. When we
Speaker 1: were on a photo safari in Mozambique, we saw a
Speaker 1: house that had been abandoned by a game warden because
Speaker 1: it flooded during the rainy seasons. He moved out and
Speaker 1: a pride of lion moved in and we and there
Speaker 1: were lions of all sizes, I don't know how many,
Speaker 1: twenty five sitting in the windows, going in and out
Speaker 1: the doors, napping on the verandas, and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: So we thought, bingo perfect, perfect movie site animals that
Speaker 1: people are enchanted with. Got back to the States. The
Speaker 1: script was written using sometimes ten fifteen cats in a scene,
Speaker 1: and we were going to have Hollywood acting animals have
Speaker 1: a nine month shoot over and out. The trainers of
Speaker 1: these lions and tigers read the script and said, there
Speaker 1: isn't any way that we can do this film. I said,
Speaker 1: and he said, because of the numbers of animals you
Speaker 1: have working together I said, well, that's the way they
Speaker 1: were living in Africa. Yes, and he said, no, it
Speaker 1: isn't that. It's because of a natural instinct to fight
Speaker 1: an animal. They don't know. I don't want my cat hurt.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be hurt. Get your own animals
Speaker 1: to do it. Well, there's the sentence. There's the key
Speaker 1: sentences me.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So first one was a rescue. Little you know, eight
Speaker 1: week calls lion had been purchased by the doctor who
Speaker 1: lived in Mandeville County Canyon in Los Angeles. By the
Speaker 1: time the little lion was seven months old, he had
Speaker 1: destroyed the doctor's house and was taking a pretty good
Speaker 1: chunk out of the doctor. Because a little lion didn't
Speaker 1: have a four hundred pound mom to say, knock it off.
Speaker 1: I got to teach us some manners. Nor did he
Speaker 1: have any siblings with whom to play. So the doctor
Speaker 1: became the sibling and he was The doctor was screaming, somebody,
Speaker 1: takes this little monster off my hands. We did, and
Speaker 1: that was our first experience with the little allions. And
Speaker 1: then at one point we had one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: big cats that we had rescued, and all during this
Speaker 1: time I'm thinking because of the accidents that all of
Speaker 1: us who were hurt making our movie. I was hurt,
Speaker 1: and my daughter was hurt, our DP, our first assistant,
Speaker 1: my then husband was hurt so often. They were going
Speaker 1: to name a wing at the Palmdale hospital after him.
Speaker 2: Because of course, the animals don't mean this intentionally.
Speaker 1: It's just that that is their instinct and there's nothing
Speaker 1: you can do to stop it short of a bullet
Speaker 1: to the head.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And you know, we were learning so much about them,
Speaker 1: and I would say, why aren't their laws to stop
Speaker 1: this insanity? And in two thousand and three I took
Speaker 1: a bill to my own congressman to just stop the
Speaker 1: interstate traffic of these animals being sold as pets.
Speaker 2: Well, and excuse me for interrupting, but I wanted to
Speaker 2: ask you to tell me, in your opinion, how bad
Speaker 2: is the problem, because honestly, other than this particular interview
Speaker 2: in this story, I've not heard much about this, and
Speaker 2: that's why I'm glad to have you here today to
Speaker 2: talk about this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, actually, the uh, the exotic animal trade is so
Speaker 1: huge that, according to you United States Fish and Wildlife,
Speaker 1: it's on a par with illegal drugs. Wow, and when
Speaker 1: when it gets that big and it's a it's a
Speaker 1: dirty business and it becomes dangerous. When I was working
Speaker 1: on on the Captive Wildlife Safety Act, my life was
Speaker 1: threatened and the animals that Chimbala were threatened. And you know,
Speaker 1: they may be very, very tough, but they're not very smart.
Speaker 1: They they left the threat on my answering machine. Good,
Speaker 1: so I called in the authorities and they listened, and
Speaker 1: they have a way of knowing whether this is a
Speaker 1: serial a threat or not, and they said, absolutely it is.
Speaker 1: So I couldn't. I couldn't leave the preserve unless I
Speaker 1: drove somebody else's car and I had to rent a car,
Speaker 1: have somebody with me. I could. I had to have
Speaker 1: somebody live in my house with me during the time
Speaker 1: when we were open. They sent the sheriff over to
Speaker 1: go through everybody's bags to make sure they weren't bringing
Speaker 1: in anything that would harm either me or the as
Speaker 1: the animals. And after a couple of weeks they found
Speaker 1: out where the man lived and it was out of
Speaker 1: the state of California. So the i FBI came in
Speaker 1: and they got him. He was an animal dealer and
Speaker 1: I had heard about this man and not good things
Speaker 1: about him, and you know, so I was then very
Speaker 1: very much relieved, and you know, I could go on
Speaker 1: with my life.
Speaker 2: Well, you're a very interesting guest, of course, and not
Speaker 2: just because you're certain celebrity studies and television and film.
Speaker 2: But I find it fascinating most folks that are in
Speaker 2: their senior years, of course from Cedrin would be just
Speaker 2: sipping wine and just retiring. But you're doing something actively
Speaker 2: to stop in what you consider him. And I think
Speaker 2: many people listening will easily considered to be a big problem.
Speaker 1: And the bills that I'm working on now, the federal
Speaker 1: ban on breeding the exotic sea line for personal possession,
Speaker 1: is of vital importance. I mean, the lions and tigers
Speaker 1: are apex predators.
Speaker 2: Please please explain that I'm not familiar with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which means that they are that they are head
Speaker 1: of the head of the top of the line of
Speaker 1: the food chain. They are one of four of the
Speaker 1: most dangerous animals in the world. And yet the United
Speaker 1: States government says it's okay to breed these animals. They'll
Speaker 1: give you they'll not only say it's okay to breed them,
Speaker 1: but to own them. And not only that they will
Speaker 1: give you a permit through the Department of Agriculture. Now
Speaker 1: that's all very wrong and it's given given the wrong
Speaker 1: uh message. And you know these animals are are absolutely
Speaker 1: they can be so deadly that it's absolutely frightening.
Speaker 2: And I've heard stories and I think you could, of
Speaker 2: course elaborate further on this. This is your expertise, but
Speaker 2: there aren't there people in different cities that have these
Speaker 2: animals thinking that they're just common house pets and they
Speaker 2: realize they're they're much bigger than they could maintain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're living everywhere in in the United States
Speaker 1: and in back of homes there, roadside zoos there. Most
Speaker 1: of them are in cages that are are not not
Speaker 1: well built. I mean, it takes an enormous amount of
Speaker 1: strength to keep these animals in is they if they
Speaker 1: decide to come at you or whatever, there is nothing
Speaker 1: that can stop them, accept a billet, a bullet to
Speaker 1: the head.
Speaker 2: Well, I hate to bring up the story that I
Speaker 2: think everybody listening probably recognizes the Sick and Roy show. Yes,
Speaker 2: we're one of what please explain this better, because all
Speaker 2: I understood is what one of the tigers bit one
Speaker 2: of the one of the performers and almost killed them.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Well it was Roy. Yes, Well then, and now here's
Speaker 1: another case of the instincts coming through. Roy had raised
Speaker 1: monte cor I know, I know Roy and Sigfried and
Speaker 1: Roy and I've been there and you know they they
Speaker 1: breed these animals and they raise them, and they their friends.
Speaker 1: They swim with them in the pools. I mean they
Speaker 1: you know all this, And on stage while they were
Speaker 1: doing the show, Roy had a stroke. Now it is
Speaker 1: it is an instinctive dictate for these animals to take
Speaker 1: out any being who is not healthy, who is not
Speaker 1: who is lame, anything physical wrong, physically wrong with them,
Speaker 1: so they take them out. And that's what Monticore did.
Speaker 1: He said, whoa, I've got it. I've got to dick,
Speaker 1: and they the company tried to put a spin on
Speaker 1: it that Monticare was trying to help Roy, and all
Speaker 1: of us who are in this business and know these animals,
Speaker 1: well just said, oh no, no, no, that's not the
Speaker 1: way it is. That wasn't what was what happened. Monica
Speaker 1: was going to get him.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that he that the performer had it.
Speaker 2: You're saying that he had a stroke and thus the
Speaker 2: animal's instincts was to finish him completely.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, and that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: Didn't know that again, ladies and gentlemen, if you're just
Speaker 2: joining us here on the Doctor Sky Show, a real
Speaker 2: privilege and honor and a very special treat or special
Speaker 2: guest is legend of film and television. Her entire career spent,
Speaker 2: of course, as we all know this Tiphydrin, but also
Speaker 2: equally important her involvement and extreme involvement her passion for
Speaker 2: Shambala dot org. You can visit them, of course at
Speaker 2: TRIPLEW dot Chambaba dot org on the web, which I'm
Speaker 2: looking at right now, ladies and gentlemen, And I think
Speaker 2: it's important messed in the few moments that we have
Speaker 2: you tell us the progress of the Federal band. I'm
Speaker 2: bringing a big cats act. Where is it now? And
Speaker 2: what do you see will be the outcome of this place?
Speaker 1: All right? Just yesterday I got the final markup on
Speaker 1: the bill and I'm absolutely thrilled with it. Great, it's strong,
Speaker 1: it's short, it's to the point, and hopefully we'll be
Speaker 1: able to get it through hopefully in the next six
Speaker 1: weeks that it will be introduced and there will be
Speaker 1: a house number. It will then go to the Senate
Speaker 1: and when we as soon as we have the house number,
Speaker 1: we will have it up on our website. And I
Speaker 1: would urge everyone to really look into this situation of
Speaker 1: big cats as pets because it is so dangerous and very.
Speaker 2: Very very righteous cause and one that I think people
Speaker 2: of course need to know about what's going on. But
Speaker 2: to scring to us the Shambala Organization, if people were
Speaker 2: to go to the location.
Speaker 1: There you have, well, what we do is we try
Speaker 1: to educate when when when you come here, we're rather exclusive.
Speaker 1: We feel that the place is for them. We're only
Speaker 1: open one weekend a month, but we will and it's
Speaker 1: everybody loves coming here. They come often to to you know,
Speaker 1: go through the tour and you can bring your picnic
Speaker 1: and sit around the lake with us and enjoy that
Speaker 1: time as well. But when we have many, many different programs,
Speaker 1: but I think one of the nice we have the
Speaker 1: adoption program and the membership program and the educational program,
Speaker 1: and all of those things are very very important in
Speaker 1: helping us. And we are run to operate totally on
Speaker 1: donation including my own. I've never been paid on any level.
Speaker 1: In fact, about fifteen years ago I donated all of
Speaker 1: the land to the Roor Foundations, so the animals will
Speaker 1: always be safe. But one of the nicest things we
Speaker 1: do for them is that they're not in the same
Speaker 1: cage for the rest of their lives. In fact, they
Speaker 1: are not in cages. They're in large areas, some of
Speaker 1: them over an acre who and we move them from
Speaker 1: one area to another, so they have a different body
Speaker 1: of water to play in, a different tree to climb,
Speaker 1: different neighbor, a different lion or tiger to talk to.
Speaker 1: And everything we do is for their benefit, to try
Speaker 1: to give them some semblance of life, because there is
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing that we can give a wild animal in
Speaker 1: captivity that they need. There isn't one thing that they
Speaker 1: need that we can give them.
Speaker 2: Because you described it before, they're at the top of
Speaker 2: the food.
Speaker 1: Chain, and I think that's important. And not only that
Speaker 1: they should be free, they shouldn't be And I mean
Speaker 1: it would like it would be like putting us into
Speaker 1: one room and say, Okay, this is what you're this
Speaker 1: is what you're where you're going to be for the
Speaker 1: rest of your life, and that's what they are born into.
Speaker 1: They're born into living in prison.
Speaker 2: Well, the centren you also described, or at least I've
Speaker 2: been reading about these trophy hunts that are guaranteed. I mean,
Speaker 2: I understand the noble use for hunting. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is something that a lot of folks that I know
Speaker 2: are active hunters, but they do it in what I
Speaker 2: consider to be illegal.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think there's anything noble about it, and
Speaker 1: I and I understand that.
Speaker 2: I wanted you to comment though, if you would.
Speaker 1: On this, Well, I think I think it's it's egregious.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's immoral, and it's it's just another
Speaker 1: way to make money for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: No, if you would comment though on the trophy hunt,
Speaker 2: I mean I think that's that's absolutely.
Speaker 1: Oh, it is a guaranteed trophy, right.
Speaker 2: And that's terrible because the animal didn't.
Speaker 1: Have a chance, not a chance in the world. That. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a borran. That's that. And then
Speaker 1: apparently it's the you know, there there are so many
Speaker 1: hunters in the NRA, so many people who are in
Speaker 1: our government who are hunters. You know.
Speaker 2: No, I do understand the necessity for the you know,
Speaker 2: adopt an animal, and also in this particular case, more
Speaker 2: than that, the understanding of your particular piece of legislation,
Speaker 2: the federal ban on the breeding of big catsack. I
Speaker 2: think that is very noble and very much needed.
Speaker 1: Well, I hope it's a success. And I have to
Speaker 1: tell you that I love these animals more than my
Speaker 1: next breath. I look out it from my bedroom and
Speaker 1: I'm about six feet away from three very very very
Speaker 1: wonderful tigresses and am able to look at them. But
Speaker 1: you know, I know the power that they have. I
Speaker 1: know that they are totally undependable, that you can't ever
Speaker 1: ever trust them, and the damage that they can do
Speaker 1: to people with either killing them or harming them for life.
Speaker 1: Is is It's not worth it?
Speaker 2: Interesting story in the cedron and one more question or
Speaker 2: one other quick story if you could explain, explain to
Speaker 2: our audience. I'm fascinated by your war here the Vietnamese
Speaker 2: American patron Scene Award. I never knew this of the
Speaker 2: folks that were of course coming out of Vietnam or
Speaker 2: in the end of the Vietnam War.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know I have. I've helped such a wonderful
Speaker 1: relationship with several Vietnamese. I was a volunteer for an
Speaker 1: organization called Food for the Hungary Right and traveled all
Speaker 1: over the world with them and for them to two
Speaker 1: countries that have been decimated by earthquake, flood, hurricane, whatever,
Speaker 1: war in Bangladesh in Hunting seventy six or so, you know,
Speaker 1: seventy five, we took a we leased a battleship from
Speaker 1: the Australian Navy and went around the South China seas
Speaker 1: helping the both people. And that I'll never forget that
Speaker 1: as long as I live. All these people who were
Speaker 1: so desperate to get away from from communism that they
Speaker 1: went out into they foraged the oceans in these ridiculous
Speaker 1: little boats, and the pirates would get them. And I
Speaker 1: mean it was just horrendous. And what we could do
Speaker 1: is we could we could bring them on board, feed them,
Speaker 1: give them new clothing, repair their little boats if it needed.
Speaker 1: And because of international law, we couldn't leak, you know,
Speaker 1: keep them on board. But what we could do is
Speaker 1: we could guide them to safe haven, to one of
Speaker 1: the countries where they would be safe.
Speaker 2: Also, as you know best, the helping and training of
Speaker 2: the manicuristy is because, oh.
Speaker 1: Well, that happened up in Weimar, California, where we put
Speaker 1: through about one hundred or fifteen hundred or so of
Speaker 1: Vietnamese refugees and just help them with simple things like
Speaker 1: how do you go through a supermarket, getting their driver's licenses,
Speaker 1: getting a sponsor. And I brought in seamstresses and typists,
Speaker 1: and they loved my fingernails, and I thought, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring my manicura stuff from La and
Speaker 1: she came up once a week for eight weeks and
Speaker 1: taught them, you know, a procedure on the nails. And
Speaker 1: after that we rented a bus and took them down
Speaker 1: to Sacramento where they went to beauty school and they
Speaker 1: went through that little study time and they all passed
Speaker 1: the test in English and got their licenses and they
Speaker 1: then went out into the world. And of course the
Speaker 1: networking of the Vietnamese refugees is amazing, and pretty soon
Speaker 1: more little shops were popping up and now it's such
Speaker 1: a huge industry and I'm so proud of.
Speaker 2: Well, it's amazing, Missedron, because when our wives and girlfriends
Speaker 2: and other female friends get the manicures or go to
Speaker 2: the nail Salam. You're helping, You're part of that effort
Speaker 2: that we see so many of the Vietnamese people of
Speaker 2: course dominating that industry. So that's amazing that you helped
Speaker 2: to get that started.
Speaker 1: You know what, I respected so much when they came
Speaker 1: in and they were not popular when they came into
Speaker 1: our country, that they did not want to be a
Speaker 1: burden on the United States. They all wanted desperately to
Speaker 1: work and find their own way. I was very impressed
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: Well, Miss Tippiheddron, I want to thank you so much.
Speaker 2: To learn more about Tippyhedron and this wonderful organization. Shambala
Speaker 2: dot orgets TRIPLEW dot, Shambala dot work and Shambala is
Speaker 2: an elegant is ancient Sanskrit word that means, of course,
Speaker 2: as you know, Missedron, meeting place of peace and harmony
Speaker 2: for all human beings, animal and human. Yes, and I
Speaker 2: want to thank you so much for spending time with us,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. That concludes it's excited edition of the
Speaker 2: Doctor Sky Show. As we always remind our listeners here
Speaker 2: and around the world, always remember to keep your eyes
Speaker 2: to the skies and literally to the stars, many of course,
Speaker 2: the stars that we have from television and film of
Speaker 2: days gone by, like our special guest today, Miss tipp Edron.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, miss Edron for joining us today.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I've enjoyed it tremendously.
Speaker 2: Thank you man,