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Speaker 2: Stacy Abrams.
Speaker 1: You'll recall the former seventeen term governor of Georgia.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. She never won, but.
Speaker 1: Remember she founded that nonprofit and then that made her
like this superstar of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That nonprofit got fined the largest ever fine in Georgia history,
three hundred thousand dollars for illegally supporting her gubernatorial campaign
in twenty eighteen. Yeah, all right, I'll get to the
details on that in a minute. First last hour, I
did not get to the emails and messages regarding the
Zuckerberg interview that he gave to Joe Rogan. I will
say because I saw I did see your tweets here
at Pete Callener from Jonathan, who said I counted forty
seven erms and ums in his response. In the way
he speaks, doesn't that mean people are lying when they
do that so frequently?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I don't think.
Speaker 1: So maybe I'm not aware, but I don't think in
this case Zuckerberg is lying. I think Rogan started the
podcast and immediately went to this topic, and so probably
a little bit of nerves also maybe a little bit
of social.
Speaker 2: Awkwardness that Zuckerberg has.
Speaker 1: I think we are all aware of this, right, But
also it is a verbal crutch.
Speaker 2: I use it. I just did it there. There is
also that's also the.
Speaker 1: Way he speaks, I think, because I watched the entire
three hour interview, even the parts where they were talking
about his fighting. He started training and he does these
fights now and he's actually entered competitions and.
Speaker 2: Apparently he's okay.
Speaker 1: He won a match, and so I think, and he
speaks like that the entire time, this halting, almost a
stuttering kind of delivery. So I think that's just how
he talks.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, now I'm lying. Oh gosh, I did it again.
So a couple of emails here, Let me get to
This is from Jay, who says, so Biden thinks there
is a new oligarchy forming, Well, it's got to be
better than Pelosi, Garland, Schumer, Obama at all that we've
had for the last sixteen years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this idea that.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's arguing that there's a new oligarchy that is
replacing him and his and that's what's really God is.
Speaker 2: Dander of Maybe that's the deal.
Speaker 1: Next up, Joseph says Elon Musk is a transhumanist weirdo
who wants to download his consciousness into a robot, moved
to Mars and live forever while his bioengineered progeny lured
over a post homo sapien humanoid population that do the
few things the machines can't. Luckily that's as goofy as
he is. While I voted for Trump, I was way
more excited about JD. Vance and the ramifications of Biden's
failed presidency lasting several cycles really gives me hope. Unlike
Musk or Ramaswami, Vance is more aligned with the America
First Movement, maybe even more than Trump. I suspect he
has more than one X handles amphibian X. It was
like a frog that posts spicy memes one of us,
one of us. If you will, Yeah, If I had
to bet, I would say it's probably a safer bet
to say jd Vance has a burner account on Twitter
that he uses to poop post. I would suspect that
would be how I would bet. If I had to
gun to the head, had to bet, I would do that.
This is from Tim. I think Zuckerberg is a cuck
really who just blows whatever direction the wind blows. He
could I don't know if that's the definition of a
quote cuck as I understand it that means something else.
But no, he's I think more accurate, would be more
of a lady of the night. If you will. He's
just going to who wherever the customer is, he will
service right. Part of this is protection, and this is
not new. It's not restricted to just Mark Zuckerberg and
Meta owner of Facebook and Instagram. This has been the
case in all industries, in all companies. You don't want
the federal government coming after you for stuff, so it's
best to try to play nice with the government when
you can.
Speaker 2: And every situation is different.
Speaker 1: I'm not advocating it, but I understand why leaders of
companies do this sort of stuff all the time. When
you get so big that now government starts paying you attention.
It's better to be friends than enemies. You know, they
have the monopoly on force as it were. Tim goes
on to say, I Kamala had won, does anybody think
Zuckerberg would be on Joe Rogan talking like this? Probably not,
because again that would not be in the best interest
of his company and the shareholders. If he were to
go on to Rogan's show and talk about these things,
he would not be celebrated by the left especially or
the media. But I do repeat myself, he would not
be celebrated as a truth telling whistleblower. He would be savaged.
He would be targeted. As he mentioned in that clip
that the agencies now just started cracking down and you know,
just bringing down on Facebook and Instagram, you know, the
full weight of the federal government into all of its agencies.
When Joe Biden said they're killing people, that was you know,
green light right open season on Meta and that's when
he said it got brutal. So if Kamala had won,
I suspect he probably would not have gone on Joe
Rogan and said those things. I suspect he would have
gone to the Harris administration and tried to play nice
with them. Sure, does that mean what he said isn't true?
As he pointed out, a lot of this stuff is
on the record already because they've got the emails thanks
to the investigation by Jim Jordan's Committee House Oversight, John says,
it just seems to me that he sees who is
coming to power and is kissing the appropriate posterior. I
would say, yes, that's probably true. I don't have to
pick again, I don't have to pick whether Musk or
Sorry Zuckerberg is either kissing but or telling the truth.
Sometimes those two things can align, and he can be
telling the truth and kissing Donald Trump's posterior, and both
of those things can be true.
Speaker 2: And I can see that for.
Speaker 1: What it is, right, I don't know if that's true,
but it would not surprise me.
Speaker 2: Does that change what he has said?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: In other words, are you saying that he is lying
about this stuff now? I think it would be harder
for him to lie that this stuff happened when there
is in fact a record of it happening.
Speaker 2: As he pointed out.
Speaker 1: Mark says, I'm not buying Zuckerberg's golly ge whiz, we
didn't know lyne. This guy's been at the forefront of
social media for decades. To now act like some innocent
babe in the woods is a load of horse apples.
He's covering his skinny butt to protect against any backlash
from Trump at all. It would be nice to think
Trump is going to go after these insider sleezes, but
the fact is he won't. Why because he's no different.
Trump's first term could be described as the Trump fail.
This second one will be worse. As I've said for years,
whenever the stuff hits the fan, and there's no way
to avoid taking blame, it rolls down to whether they
are stupid or evil.
Speaker 2: Zuckerberg is now.
Speaker 1: In stupid mode of defense, and again I ain't buying it. Yeah,
I don't think Facebook is as innocent as he framed
them to be.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Again, he made no mention of any of the people
on staff that participated in any of the censorship efforts
and such, and the creation of the fact checkers and
just turning all of this over to them. Now that
being said, I will point out they're trying to moderate
platforms that every single day, between Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp,
they've got three billion users a day. So you're trying
to moderate at a scale that is difficult to comprehend.
Human beings cannot do that. So they implement these programs
and these algorithms and such, and they're not perfect. They're
not going to get it all right, So I recognize
that too. That's not an excuse. I'm not making any
excuses for Facebook and the people that went along with
this stuff. However, I do recognize the challenge that they're
under to try to moderate st and when they thought
they had this fix, they turned it over to the
media people. And I can see if you're in a bubble.
You grow up, you go through government schools, you go
to the ivy leagues, and you think the media are
truth tellers, you know, firefighters for democracy, and then they
behave in this way. I could see people getting a
red pill in this scenario. They didn't think that these
people that are operating these so called nonpartisan objective media outlets.
They wouldn't have assumed that these people were biased because
they've never been exposed to that reality. Right, that's possible too.
They don't know what they don't know. Again, not an excuse.
And I don't believe that's everybody. And I don't believe
that Facebook and Meta doesn't share some responsibility in their
own actions.
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A nonprofit organization founded by former Georgia state Representative Stacy
the Governor Abrams, who unsuccessfully ran for governor in twenty
eighteen and then again in twenty twenty two. She will
repay or the nonprofit rather will pay three hundred thousand
dollars for illegally supporting her twenty eighteen gubernatorial campaign, the
New Georgia Project. Remember this when everybody in state Democrat
politics in red states like North Carolina saw this a
lot in the North Carolina political feed on Twitter, which,
by the way, if you are interested, hashtag ncpol. That's
where all of that stuff shows up. As long as
people tag it, it shows up in that feed. They
were all like, oh, my god, gosh, we need this
in North Carolina. We needed a new NC project. Can
we get Stacy Abrams here? The New Georgia Project and
its affiliated group, the New Georgia Project Action Fund, admitted
to sixteen violations of state campaign finance law. The fine
is the largest ever assessed for violating Georgia campaign finance laws.
According to a consent order approved by the state Ethics
Commission on Wednesday, the New Georgia Project admitted that it
raised and spent millions of dollars to support her campaign
without registering as an independent political committee, which is required
by state law. At the time of the campaign. The group, though,
was led by Raphael Warnock, who later became one of
the state's US Senators in twenty twenty, So a sitting
US Senator was leading this quote nonprofit that was funneling
money illegally to Stacy Abrams campaign. Because of its campaign
work for Stacy Abrams, the nonprofit admitted that it should
have registered with the state as a political committee. Federal
law prohibits tax exempt charities such as this from campaigning
for candidates, but this case was focused on the group's
violation of state law, so this is just a state action.
An investigation that began in twenty nineteen was met with
cries from the group that this was a politically motivated
fishing expedition. They're now admitting, though, quote, that everything we
said was true, said David Emadi, the executive director of
the Commission, the State Ethics Commission. They said this wasn't true,
and now they are admitting that it was. A spokesman
for Abrams said in a statement, quote, Stacey hasn't been
involved in the organization's work since she departed in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: She didn't do this thing.
Speaker 1: Raphael Warnock's Senate office said that while he was the
leader of the New Georgia Project in twenty eighteen, quote,
compliance decisions were not a part of that work. He
was merely in charge drawing a paycheck to be the
leader of the organization. Anything that was going on that
was illegal, failing to register appropriately following the law, that
kind of stuff that was beyond his purview. That's not
what he was in charge of doing. That was not
part of his job description. Under the consent agreement, now
they have to pay one hundred fifty thousand dollars within
thirty days and then they got to pay another one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars within a year.
Speaker 2: Stacy Abrams.
Speaker 1: David stromover at hot air dot com. He talks about
this case under a piece titled the Democratic Party is
an election fraud machine. But no, please, Joe Biden, tell
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writing a piece about the Stacy Abrams nonprofit getting slapped
with the record fine. Democrats have taken in recent years
to spouting platitudes about norms and protecting democrase, But the
fact is the party wants to do exactly what President
Obama said out loud. You'll recall quote fundamentally transform America.
And some people like me pointed out at the time
that you don't fundamentally transform something that you love. If
you think something is cool, you don't try to fundamentally
there's a keyword right there, fundamentally transform it into something else.
And as Strom points out, norms and fundamental transformation are
opposites of one another. Right, you don't protect norms while
also saying we're going to fundamentally transform stuff that would
be different. Right, fundamental transformation requires the obliteration of norms.
So with that as a backdrop, Stacy Abrams became the
Democrat party hero by lying for years about how she
totally won that election for governor of Georgia. That's a
perfect example of all of this, he says. The more
she lied and cheated, the more popular she became. And
after years of hiding the fact that she, not her
Republican opponent, cheated in her campaign by illegally coordinating with
a supposedly nonpartisan nonprofit run by now Senator Raphael Warnock,
she committed fraud to win an election. Mean, she didn't
win despite what she had claimed for years after back
before well, actually no, it was right during the time
period where no, no, So this was first in twenty eighteen,
and she was running around right, So it was before
Donald Trump's claims that he did not win in twenty
twenty and Democrats were like, how dare you undermine the
norms of Democrat And it's like, well, you got Stacy
Abrams running around there saying the same thing, and Hillary
Clinton said the same thing, and Democrats have been basic
challenging Republican presidential wins since nineteen eighty eight, like officially
challenging in Congress, refusing to certify elections and stuff like that.
So this time, this was the first time since nineteen
eighty eight that Democrats have not done that. Did you
know that first time?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Kind of awkward.
Speaker 1: It would be kind of awkward for them to try
to do it now after all of the squawking about
you must accept the results of the election. Right, she
committed fraud to win an election. Who could have guessed?
He says in the Honorable Reverend Doctor Raphael Gamaliel Warnock
was a co conspirator in the scheme. I think, to
be fair, I'm not aware of any evidence that came
out that showed she knew or she was a participant,
but I think chances are pretty good she founded the
nonprofit and then turned it over to Warnock, and then
oh lo and behold, you're getting all of this assistance
from that nonprofit. I kind of feel like you would
notice something like that. And I did mention in the
last segment there that they were all of these lefties
in North Carolina that were clamoring for a similar nonprofit
to start up in North Carolina. Andy, thank you for
the link.
Speaker 2: There is one.
Speaker 1: They did set up one, the New North Carolina Project,
so they did spin off an affiliate. But spinoffs rarely
get as many viewers as the original series, So I
don't know how successful that is, or how much illegal
activity they're engaged in, Probably not any.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the spinoffs rarely are as successful. Strong
goes on to say this isn't just about Stacy Abrams
and election fraud in Georgia. He said, this is how
democrats work all day, every day. They skirt the law
by using smurfing to guide illegal campaign contributions. They fight
like hell to ensure that voter fraud is impossible to
prevent or detect, and they use hoaxes and lawfare to
smear Republicans and tie them up in court. They harass
politicians at their homes, stir up anger and even riots,
and when given the opportunity, like during COVID, they declare
emergencies so they can ignore election laws. This is what
I have been saying about election integrity efforts for years.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you.
Speaker 1: Do actually value the democracy, if you do hold it
to be this sacrosanct mechanism, then you should want to
protect it from fraud. It just makes sense to do so.
Speaker 2: That is logic.
Speaker 1: You believe that it is so important, and everything that
you're saying, all your rhetoric and messaging is all around
this concept of protecting the Demodus say, well, then shouldn't
you behave as if it is actually that important. Abram
starts a charity, she gets into the governor's race. Warnock
takes over the charities, then illegally use tax free contributions
to outright campaign for her. When caught, they fight the
charges for now six years, even during a second campaign
that Abrams ran for governor. Then finally they admit that
they violated the law and lied about it. After Abrams
is well and truly done with politics and has been
a boatload has made a boatload of money by lying
about her supposedly Republican election fraud, right, they settle the case,
presumably paying the fine with the pocket change of big
donors who had maxed out their legal contributions to Abram's campaign.
Democrats get away with it for a simple reason. The
media covers for them and is constantly doing a similar thing. Collectively,
the partisan media apparatus can mobilize the resources that amount
to hundreds of billions of dollars in propaganda investment. Almost
every TV network pimps for Democrats, almost every newspaper and magazine,
most big tech companies, although that might change soon, they
all do the same thing. Corporate media is in bed
with them, and you have the left wing big money complex,
and you have the Hollywood elites and such all that
money behind them. We hear lots of talk about Rupert
Murdoch and Elon Musk having too much influence, but combined
their reach amounts to a tiny fraction of what the
left can and does mobilize. But if you talk to
people inside the left, they will tell you the media
is actually conservative.
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. That's what they say. All right.
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mentioned earlier Marco Rubio. If you are interested in the
geopolitical issues and international affairs and stuff, I would recommend
you watch his confirmation Q and A Yesterday about It
runs like three hours plus, but a lot of interesting
stuff in there, a lot of good discussion.
Speaker 2: I thought, not a lot of gotcha stuff at all. Really. However, today.
Speaker 1: Scott Bessent or Bessent, he's a billionaire money manager from
South Carolina and he went before the Senate Finance Committee today.
Bessent would be the first openly LGBTQ Senate confirmed Cabinet
member in a Republican administration. The Treasury Chief helps formulate financial,
economic and tax policy and manage the public debt. Here
is Senator Ron Wyden questioning him about.
Speaker 2: Fossil fuels. Let's see will it play? Will it play?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: There is a big effort in the Trump administration to
reverse it. I think that's going to be bad for
the economy, but it is going to be damn good
for China because we are in an arms race and
clean energy with them. Are you going to be on
the side of people who want to unravel this?
Speaker 3: Senator the Senator Widen, Just so we can frame this
for everyone in the room, China will build a hundred
new coal plants this year. There is not a clean
energy race. There is an energy race. China will build
ten nuclear plants this year that is not solar. I
am in favor of more nuclear plants, and I would
note that the IRA, as scored by the CBO, is
wildly out of control in terms of spending on the upside.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, I don't know what those last things I mean, Yeah,
I don't know what those last things I mean. I
know what the CBO is Congressional Budget Office. But the
and the upside stuff and the lingo there. What a
fantastic point like you got Ron Wydeen, the sitting US
Senator saying that we're in and we are in an
arms race in clean energy. I don't even know what
that means. But with China, you know what China is doing.
Rubio talked about this yesterday. China is getting the rights,
the mineral rights for all of these special precious metals
that are used in all of our production, in all
of the production lines for technology.
Speaker 2: They're going all around the world.
Speaker 1: They're making inroads in countries in our hemisphere, everywhere, and
they're securing all of these mineral rights. What do you
think they're going to do with all of that stuff?
Do you think they're going to keep manufacturing stuff for
their adversaries or do you think they may use that
to their advantage?
Speaker 2: Don't answer that. I know the answer. It's the latter,
of course. They will.
Speaker 1: They're Commis. They're not our friends. The government of China
is a communist government. They are not our friends. They
do not have the same dare I say it norms?
They don't as we do. They do not, and so
bessent't I like this guy pointing out the false premise
of the question that we are not in a clean
energy arms race with China. If we were, China would
be behaving like it is, and they're not. They're trying
to put online as many coal fired plants and nuclear
plants as possible because they have to feed the energy
demand of what are they up to now, A trillion people?
I think it's something like that. They got a lot
of people in China. I don't know if you're aware
of this. They got a lot of people there. They
have to keep the energy supply increasing for their population.
That's why they're doing it. They don't care about the
clean and energy stuff.
Speaker 2: They know we do.
Speaker 1: They know we do, and so they use that against us.
That's the game that we are too stupid to play.
This is when Trump says like they're stupid people like
in charge. I agree, this is what he's talking about.
We have stupid people making these decisions. We need to
be increasing the energy capacity in America, and we need
to be securing mineral rights and we need to be
securing the energy supplies that this country needs, that the
world needs, because when you get these developing countries that
make deals with China and then they become attached to
the Chinese system, and how hard do you think it
is for them to break away if China is able
to withhold power from them. All right, that'll do it
for this episode.
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