WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.120 --> 00:00:04.280 Tiver the weather today. 2 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:06.759 We get clouds up until around one o'clock and that's 3 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:08.759 when the sun shows up high at fifty five today. 4 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:11.119 The clouds over nact down to thirty mostly sunny skies 5 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:14.119 tomorrow with the higher forty two thirty three overnight low 6 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:18.399 with clouds and then some rain in the daytime sometime 7 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:21.079 on Saturday. Anyway, expects some rain Saturday hids in the 8 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:24.199 mid fifties. It's forty four right now, in time for trafficks. 9 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:28.440 From the UC Health Tramphink Center. Heart disease is the 10 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:31.359 leading cause of death in the US. 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I was like wrapping 22 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:10.840 up the Thursday morning shows usually on a lighthearted note, 23 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:13.359 although of late we've had some pretty bad aviation news. 24 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:14.719 But real quick, before we get to Jay, I want 25 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:17.040 a special shout out thank you to not only everybody 26 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.480 who went to Listener Lunch yesterday. I had a fantastic time, 27 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:21.400 but if you didn't get a chance to listen every 28 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.879 Wednesday at seven oh five we hear from Jack Atherton. 29 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:27.120 He's a brilliant, brilliant guy, great commentator. Jack in his 30 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:29.920 beautiful better half Ainsley made it to lunch yesterday and 31 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:32.159 that was quite a trip for them. Shout out to 32 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:34.959 Jack and Amesley. Great ceing Eesjy. I had quite a 33 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:37.359 few listeners chime in to me and letting me know 34 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:39.920 that the how pleased they were to meet you. One 35 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:42.120 of my fraternity brothers, Maggie. They said you are two 36 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:44.560 of the nicest people he's ever met, and I can 37 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:46.680 only agree with that all day long. One of the 38 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:49.359 other nicest people ever meet, Jay Ratliff, Thanks for biting 39 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:51.879 by my words there and welcome back to the morning show. 40 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:53.560 It's always my pleasure to have you on the show. 41 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.000 Well, Jack and I have teamed up for some things 42 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:59.120 over the years, so believe me, anytime you want to 43 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:02.000 brag on heat and is lovely White by all means 44 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:02.400 do so. 45 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:07.079 They are truly fantastic folks. All right, what's the latest? 46 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:11.879 We have two obviously terrible aviation incidents to talk about. 47 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:13.800 What's the latest on the DC. 48 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:18.039 A plane running into the helicopter, or as the case, 49 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:20.360 maybe the helicopter running into the plane, which seems to 50 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:23.800 be what's happening. The suggestion I've read is that the 51 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.319 helicopter was flying at too high of an altitude. 52 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:32.360 It was, yeah, and the initial focus for the National 53 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:36.639 Transportation Safety Board was to recover the wreckage of the 54 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:44.080 downed airliner first and then go after retrieving the helicopter. 55 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:47.199 And that's what they're in the process of doing now. 56 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:50.319 Because they were two separate spots where they came down, 57 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:54.520 and the priority was the airliner. They've been able to 58 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:57.159 take care of that. They've got the black boxes, they'll 59 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:01.439 be able to determine some and a little disappointed that 60 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:05.719 the black Hawk did not have a black box type 61 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:09.879 of component that would allow them to listen to the 62 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:14.639 conversations that were ongoing and the Yeah, some black Hawks 63 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.360 have it, and I was hopeful that this was the case. 64 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:20.280 But the latest word that we had, and of course, Brian, 65 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:24.719 it may change if my information is wrong, but it 66 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:27.599 does not have that capability, which means that they're going 67 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.240 to the investigators are going to have to rely on 68 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:33.439 the back and forth, the time stamps, the different types 69 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:36.840 of things that they've got from a data standpoint to 70 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:40.280 try to figure out why that aircraft was where it 71 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:42.639 was supposed to be or where it was. Because you're right, 72 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.719 when the crash first took place and I heard the altitude, 73 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:48.960 I thought they can't be right because they've got that 74 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:51.960 ceiling of two hundred feet and I can't see any 75 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:55.840 reason why any helicopter crew would go above that, knowing 76 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.080 that the commercial lanes that are there, especially going and 77 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:01.479 had a runway three to three there. 78 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:03.039 So, yeah, the. 79 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:06.919 Investigation continues there. And we did also find out that 80 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:11.360 the NTSB told us that the jetliner did try to 81 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:13.879 elevate at the last moment, apparently when they first saw 82 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:17.160 the helicopter, and of course at that point in time, 83 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:19.879 it was simply too late for them to do anything. 84 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:20.879 Brian. 85 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:23.879 The just the weirdest thing is when you look at 86 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:27.399 some of these different videos, it's not like the helicopter 87 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:30.519 came up from underneath and the collision took place. 88 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:33.160 They were not pointed at each. 89 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.319 Other, but I mean they almost were looking at each 90 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:38.560 other as they were going in, making you think, what 91 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:41.199 in the world was the flight crew of the helicopter 92 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:45.600 not looking at exactly to see it, because it just. 93 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.639 It was like a dark being thrown in a dark board. 94 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:51.959 It was dead on collision. I mean, you couldn't if 95 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.040 you wanted to, You couldn't hit it more directly. 96 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:57.680 If this were a terrorist attack, that's exactly you know, 97 00:04:57.800 --> 00:04:59.879 I think out would look. Not that I'm suggesting an 98 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:03.920 anyway that's this, but it's the crew's attention or whatever 99 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:05.959 was elsewhere. And again we don't know if there was 100 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:09.079 a mechanical situation that was that the crew was battling 101 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.959 at the time that might have taken their attention away 102 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:14.680 from some of the critical moments of flight. 103 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:15.839 There what we just don't know. 104 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:19.079 I do know that my confidence in the National Transportation 105 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:23.439 Safety Board is unbelievably high. And if there's a group 106 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:24.800 of men and women. They're going to be able to 107 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:27.680 find out exactly what happened and give to the Federal 108 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:31.120 Aviation Administration a list of recommendations on how we can 109 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:32.199 make aviation safer. 110 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:34.040 They're going to be the ones that do it. 111 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:36.680 But as I've told you before, my biggest fear is 112 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:42.360 we're going to discover that this accident was easily. 113 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:47.360 And what you're suggesting is the negligence on the part 114 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:48.439 of the helicopter bolet. 115 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:52.800 Yeah, and again it's an incredibly early statement to make, 116 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.399 but based on the evidence as we're seeing it now, 117 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:57.360 I mean, it's obvious that the RJ was where it 118 00:05:57.399 --> 00:05:58.079 was supposed to be. 119 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:02.680 The Americans final exactly where they were supposed to. 120 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:05.920 We also can say that the helicopter crew was not 121 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:08.519 where they were supposed to. Now, again, that may be negligence, 122 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:13.199 it may be mechanical, it may be again the medical 123 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:16.800 episode involving one of the pilots that caused. 124 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:19.720 That altitude deviation to take place. We don't know. 125 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:22.920 But far too often in the history of aviation, when 126 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:26.600 you look at the decades and decades of as accidents 127 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:30.040 near accidents, the human element tends to come into play, 128 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.959 and almost all of them. It may not be the cause, 129 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.319 but it's a contributing cause many many times. And that's 130 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:39.639 why a lot of these well meaning individuals will say, Jay, 131 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.879 that's why we need to have airplanes with no pilots, 132 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:46.279 because then we can avoid these mistakes from being made 133 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:47.800 and make aviation safer. 134 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:49.959 And of course I don't agree with that at all. 135 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:54.120 But it is sad that there's always that human element 136 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:56.959 that seems to be there, which is why, you know, 137 00:06:57.160 --> 00:06:59.800 you've always heard me say before this that we were 138 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:02.279 in going the safest there ever of commercial jet travel, 139 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:04.839 but we had to be incredibly vigilant to make sure 140 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:08.839 that that continued to be the case, because we get sloppy. 141 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.800 Human nature is just that we get complacent, we get 142 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:15.639 a little sloppy, and as a result, mistakes can take place. 143 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.399 And you know, we've already seen the FAA shut down 144 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:23.879 that corridor for the helicopter traffic there at the Regae 145 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.800 National Airport, which is good and that'll probably. 146 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:28.959 Be prom in it, but I suspect that we're going 147 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:29.959 to also see. 148 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:34.279 Some other recommendations that are going to be made, and then, 149 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:36.480 of course, you know, one of the things that just 150 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:39.199 drives me out of my mind is that the NTSB 151 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:44.160 may give the FAA fifteen different points, and the FAA 152 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:49.800 may implement one, maybe two. It's not a stamp approval 153 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:52.120 as you do all of them, because many times the 154 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:56.120 airline industry and their lobbying group and others can apply 155 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.199 a little pressure saying no, we don't want to do this, this, 156 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:00.279 and this, because it would cost too much more money, 157 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:02.480 and then it would cause a raise. We would have 158 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:05.079 to raise fares, and then that would be really bad 159 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:08.040 for the consumers. Let's not do that. That kind of garbage. 160 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:12.360 And where safety then becomes a you know, a negotiating 161 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.360 type of thing, it's just, oh, so, well, you know, 162 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:17.680 that's where we are in as far as the DC 163 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:18.920 the DC. 164 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:20.720 Craft, and we'll get to the Philly crasher when we 165 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:23.439 come back. But the bottom line is, I just can't 166 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:24.959 for the life we figure out how in the hell 167 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:27.120 it is that it was in any way, shape or 168 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:29.480 form the right thing to do to allow a military 169 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:33.120 helicopter to fly right there indirect on a final approach path. 170 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:35.879 Is there really a need to do that? You can't 171 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:38.919 just deviate a mile right or left and go around 172 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:40.799 that congested area. 173 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.480 Whatever, Well, we keep most We keep most of them. 174 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.240 They keep them within the confines of the river, if 175 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:48.559 you will, going up and down through there. So that's 176 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.399 their corridor. And I mean there's nothing but military aircraft 177 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:52.879 up there. 178 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:54.600 Uh, They're everywhere. 179 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:58.279 And there's always been this this you know, combination, this 180 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:04.279 influx of both commerci and military aircraft. Normally, even though 181 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:07.039 there's occasionally where you have one that'll have to deviate 182 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:10.679 and go around or approach differently or cancel of takeoff, 183 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:13.840 it happens, but that happens at every airport. Most of 184 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:17.720 the time, this operates exactly as it's supposed to. In 185 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:21.279 this case, it didn't, and it with horrific. 186 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:22.639 Consequences, absolutely horrific. 187 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:25.519 Speaking horrific, the Philly crash, we'll talk about that, plus 188 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:28.639 a couple got sued by an airline costs a lot 189 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:31.000 of money. We'll also talk about Elon Musk ready to 190 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:34.360 make some technical upgrades air traffic control much needed, apparently 191 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:36.720 more with Jay Ratliffe coming up next, Don't Go. 192 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:40.399 Away fifty five KRC run a business and not thinking 193 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:40.799 about it. 194 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:44.960 Continuing our conversation every Thursday for a few segments with 195 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:47.639 Jay Ratliff, which I truly appreciate any my listeners enjoy 196 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:49.240 hearing from you as well. Jay, Moving away from the 197 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:53.519 DC crash over to Philly crash, the one thing I 198 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.960 heard it was suggested is that there was a weight 199 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:01.559 shift which caused the plane to stop any further developments 200 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:04.080 beyond that speculation that was initially raised. 201 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:09.240 Now that was that's still pretty much something that's being 202 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:13.200 looked at as probable. And I think the reason that 203 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.639 we so many of us went in that direction early 204 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.480 was the video of that aircraft coming out of the sky. 205 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:21.879 If that airplane takes off, loses its engines, it becomes 206 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:25.399 a glider. So at fifteen hundred feet you've got x 207 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:28.919 amount of distance before that airplane has to come down. 208 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:30.799 But it's a controlled descent. 209 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:33.639 This airplane just fell out of the sky, which means 210 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:37.639 either structurally something came off the aircraft disrupting the lift 211 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:39.679 and down it came with the pilots not having an 212 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:43.320 ability to control it, or something happened to that center 213 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:46.440 of gravity that shifted at a critical moment, And of 214 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:49.600 course weight and balance being everything on an aircraft. If 215 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.039 you've got an airplane at that critical moment that's taking 216 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.840 off and you've got a sudden and unexpected shift of 217 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:59.159 gravity in that aircraft. What could take place is it 218 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:04.159 could actually cause the airplane to change its inclination to 219 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:08.080 the air over the wing then gets disrupted. The lift 220 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:10.639 is no longer there, and the airplane goes into a stall. 221 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:12.879 It just falls like it falls like a dead weight 222 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:14.200 out of the sky. Then it does. 223 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:15.000 It does. 224 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.399 And if you were you know, altitude twenty thirty thousand feet, 225 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:20.320 no problem. You just point the nose down, you build 226 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:23.120 up the speed, and the airflow over the wings re zumed, 227 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:25.840 lift is restored and off you go. But if you're 228 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:28.720 fifteen hundred feet Brian, there's nothing you can do. And 229 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:33.240 some of the most horrific if you YouTube searched, there's 230 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:36.440 a seven forty seven the cargo plane that was taking 231 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:40.399 off that had that exact same thing happen, and it's 232 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:43.799 a horrific video to watch. But the airplane takes off 233 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.559 and it has that shift of gravity where the cargo 234 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:49.480 came loose, and you can see the moment at a 235 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:53.039 very low altitude that that aircraft the crew lost complete 236 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:56.120 control and that airplane just falls right out of the sky. 237 00:11:56.240 --> 00:12:02.399 But that's why everything is strapped down. Everything is it 238 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:05.159 just it's there's just no room. 239 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:06.879 For air No, and you know what you're doing. 240 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:10.039 You are also pointing out the importance of the folks 241 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:12.759 that load the plane, you know, the common laborer who 242 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:15.440 are putting things in the cargo bay of the plane. 243 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:19.799 They are critical the life saving saving lives on that, 244 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:23.720 whether it's the crew or the entire list of passengers. 245 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:28.159 That it's just an amazing reality that a shifting weight 246 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:30.360 in the bottom of the airplane could just make it 247 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:31.240 drop like a rock. 248 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.919 If it's significant in size, yes, if you know, if 249 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:37.120 you've got six bags rolling around, that's not gonna be 250 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.919 an issue. But if you've got something of substantial weight 251 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:43.919 that shifts quickly from one side to the next, yeah, 252 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:46.799 it's going to be something that could just caut some 253 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:49.600 some big time problems for the flight crew. And sadly, 254 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:54.080 if it's a little altitude, there's nothing that they can 255 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:57.480 do about it. And that crew knew that there was 256 00:12:57.519 --> 00:12:59.639 nothing they could do about it. And I tell you 257 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:02.639 it's just when you look at you know, aviation and things. 258 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:04.440 That's one of the reasons that weight and balance is 259 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:09.559 so critical, where everything is measured and weighed so that 260 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:12.720 we know wait wise, how much fuel, how much cargo, 261 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:15.879 which part of the aircraft it's in, how many passengers are. 262 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.799 And that's why sometimes when you are on a flight 263 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:21.519 that maybe isn't full, you'll have the pass the flight 264 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:23.120 tends come back and say, hey, we need you six 265 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:25.159 people to move to the back of the airplane, or 266 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:27.279 we need you to come over here. And what they're 267 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:31.919 doing is at the pilot's instruction, distributing that weight a 268 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:34.480 little bit better throughout the cabin right so that it's 269 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:38.360 going to make it easier for the crew to maintain 270 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:40.879 control of the flight. So yeah, if you're ever asked 271 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:44.480 to move, please please don't throw a fIF Please please 272 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:46.000 don't throw fIF You. 273 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:49.440 Know what, you're doing absolutely nothing today to make me 274 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:51.559 want to fly. I know this is you and you 275 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:54.000 say flight it's all safe and compared to being in 276 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:54.879 a car and all that. 277 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:58.360 I get it. I know the statistics, but jeez, little wise, 278 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:00.240 the smallest like. 279 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:02.480 Going outside and getting struck by lightning twice in the 280 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:05.320 same day, twice in the same day. So I mean 281 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:09.000 that's you know, I will go out and get on 282 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.600 an airplane. I'll put my kids, my grandkids, my wife, 283 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:17.600 my mom, I mean without hesitation, but when I recognize 284 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:19.879 here in the United States we do it better than 285 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:22.759 anybody on the planet, and there's a lot of things 286 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.679 we can do better, and we will, but you know, 287 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:29.600 it's I'm just I'm just thrilled that we have this 288 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:32.960 dedication to safety as we have here in the United States, 289 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:35.639 because the mechanics, the pilots, the training, the way the 290 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.799 aircraft are built to the NTSB, even the FAA oversight. 291 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:42.320 You know, many times I'll give them the credit that 292 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:46.080 they deserve. It's a large group of people that do 293 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:49.440 an incredible job daily to keep all of us safe. 294 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:53.200 And you know, when there's a breakdown, it can be costly, 295 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:55.519 and it's one of the reasons you've just got to 296 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:56.240 stay super. 297 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:59.000 Vigilant, no question about it. Can we stick around? We 298 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:00.960 paused from Rome and come we need to talk about 299 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:02.639 these other two. We got two more cop topics we 300 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.639 talk about, plus a hub delay update from Jay Ratlift. 301 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:09.559 Stick around at eight forty six fifty five KRC. There 302 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:11.440 are two types of pain in the world. One more 303 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:12.440 time with the Channeline weather. 304 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:14.720 We got clouds until around one o'clock when we get 305 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:16.799 the sun back fifty five for the high today, clouds 306 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:19.879 over night thirty tomorrow mostly sunny. Sky's forty two thirty 307 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:22.679 three every night with clouds and rain in the daytime. 308 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.759 On Saturday, high in the mid fifties. We're closing out 309 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:29.080 of forty four degrees and one more time for traffic from. 310 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:30.159 The UCL Tramphic Center. 311 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.320 Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the US. 312 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:36.279 If you're at risk, trust the experts that you see 313 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:38.759 health for innovative and personalized hardcare. 314 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:41.360 Expect more at uc health dot com. 315 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:44.399 They've opened up the right lane on westbound for Washington 316 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:48.080 Way that's helping traffic Office seventy one into downtown. Looks 317 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:51.559 like things are still blocked off on inbound Columbia Parkway 318 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:55.360 at Third Street southbound seventy five. There's a record aser 319 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.440 Charles Center by ains packing traffic to seventy four. Chut 320 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:03.000 Kingbram Moon fifty five krsc HE Talks station, Hey. 321 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:06.240 Fifty you think about CAIRCD talk station Happy Thursday too 322 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:09.279 and tomorrow at six thirty am with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter. 323 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:11.480 In the meantime, one more time with I heartb the 324 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:15.159 Aviation next for Jay Ratliffe ninety thousand, dollars. 325 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.000 What happened, Well, we. 326 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:23.000 Had a couple on an Avianca flight and they got 327 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:27.679 to fight this couple and as a result, the man 328 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:31.360 throws the phone at his wife and it hits the 329 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:36.039 wall and overheats and starts to catch fire. So now 330 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:38.480 the crew has to decide to go back and land 331 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:42.519 because of the smoldering fire that they have on board 332 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:45.360 the aircraft. Well, the aircraft is too heavy to land. 333 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.519 It's not yet a critical situation, so they decide to 334 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:52.559 burn off the fuel for three hours and then land 335 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:56.000 the airplane so that a the passengers that were disrupted 336 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:58.840 can be removed, the damage to the inside of the 337 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:01.840 aircraft can be rep aired, and then they can take 338 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:04.759 care of the rest of the customers. The airline decided 339 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:09.519 to sue this couple for ninety thousand dollars in part 340 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:12.039 for the damage to the aircraft the fuel that they 341 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:15.839 had to expend trying to land after the event took place, 342 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:18.960 because you can land too heavy, and you don't want 343 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:21.359 to do that if you don't have to unless it's 344 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:25.880 a dire emergency situation. And yeah, the thought processes. If 345 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:31.920 you find these individuals enough, Brian, maybe it'll help future behavior. 346 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:35.119 I doubt it, but you know, at least you hope 347 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:36.039 that's going to be the case. 348 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:42.119 Yeah, no question about it. Cautionary tale, right, get the load. 349 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:44.519 I told you, these are the people that you put 350 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:48.720 their pictures in the TSA area anytime that you've got 351 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:51.599 that long screening line where every so often their picture 352 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:54.920 pops up with the dollar amount underneath they were fined exact. 353 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:59.400 It reminds people constantly, and you know that there are consequences, 354 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:01.920 and we're seeing more airlines do that, especially on diverted flights, 355 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:05.240 and I'm glad to see it because you're inconveniencing everybody 356 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:08.119 on that airplane and everybody that's waiting on that airplane 357 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:10.480 at the next stop that's going to be canceled as well. 358 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:13.599 The fact that people are so oblivious to the concerns 359 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:16.480 and and and the needs of other people. It's just 360 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:20.720 it's obviously a growing phenomenon. People are very, very selfish 361 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:23.880 and don't care about other people. All right, Elon Musk, 362 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:25.720 is he going to fix it? We had a real 363 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:28.000 problem with air traffic control shortage of them. That's one 364 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:29.559 of the things that they said was could have been 365 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:32.680 a problem in DC, but I saw the other day. 366 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:35.240 I guess two aircraft ran into each other on the 367 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:38.319 runway on Wednesday, a Japanese airliner and I guess some 368 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:41.160 delta flight. But that's an air traffic control issue, I 369 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.519 would imagine, So what's going on and what do we 370 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:44.039 need to fix? 371 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:44.400 Jay? 372 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:47.720 Yeah, on that way was a delta flight was being 373 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:50.599 deced and you know the japan Airlines plane taxing by 374 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:52.279 and think nailed it. 375 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:52.559 Well. 376 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:56.240 Pretty easy to tell who's at fault there, yep, because 377 00:18:56.279 --> 00:18:59.119 only one of the two airplanes were moving. But you know, 378 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:02.920 Elon Musk is a very it kind of guy, and 379 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:05.799 I would pay I would have paid money to have 380 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:10.400 walked with him as he's been given the tour of 381 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:14.039 the Federal Alleviation Administration. Air traffic control says where they're 382 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:17.480 relying on some of this equipment and technology that it 383 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:18.640 goes back seventy years. 384 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:20.839 They're still using a giant floppy discs. 385 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:22.880 I heard, Well they are. 386 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.319 There's so many things that have to be upgraded, and 387 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:30.440 it would be like, I don't know, I can't even 388 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:34.160 think of the comparison. But for somebody like him and 389 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:37.359 even President Trump and others that are saying, look this 390 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:40.519 is so far past being done here. We've got to 391 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:45.039 get this fixed. And other administrations have made a similar assessment, 392 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:47.640 but nothing ever seems to get done. And one of 393 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:51.200 the frustrations of air traffic control is that these controllers 394 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:53.920 have to work with a lot of this antiquated equipment, 395 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:57.680 and I'll say that from a retention standpoint, it makes 396 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:01.200 their job as controllers more stressful, harder to do. And 397 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:03.559 you want to do everything you can to keep these 398 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:07.000 men and women sticking around for a while. Let's give 399 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:08.720 them state of the art equipment to you, so let's 400 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:13.480 make their job easier. Let's let's make aviation safer so 401 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:15.920