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Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Inquisition Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Everybody.

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Speaker 1: We have our regular panel convened tonight. Pete Canone's, Tomas

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Trip seven, Stormy Waters and Me Astral, your host, and

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we have a lot to get to. So much keeps happening.

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What are we two weeks into? Feels like twenty twenty

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five has been several years at this point. We're two

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weeks into the Trump presidency and a lot has happened

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since the last show. So we're gonna put that off

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for part two of today's episode because I wanted to

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start out, we haven't actually really explained why did we

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name this show the Inquisition? Why why is it called that?

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I hoped I like to think that it's a self

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explanatory to an extent, But we're going to take a

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minute to explain, you know, what the Inquisition has to

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do with, you know, kind of like our mission here

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and why why we why we exist? And kind of

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in addition to that, you know, this this show started

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because me and Stormy we're talking for a long time.

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I mean, at this point it's been a couple of

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years and we've been trying to find a way for

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me and him to get on the mic and just

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put out continuous content. And we noticed a couple a

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couple big events happened in the last couple of years,

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particularly October seventh and then the Trump assassination attempt, and

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now the election of Trump. It looks like things have

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kind of like sort of re situated themselves and kind

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of realign. There's been like a realignment on the right wing,

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and I feel like the dust has kind of settled

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right now, and we saw an opening. We saw a

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riff that formed, and people have kind of settled into factions,

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and we can talk about those factions later, but we

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saw an opening where nobody's really speaking to the things

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me and Stormy believed the way Me and Stormy see

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things in America and historically as well. So of course,

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who better to join us than Pete and Thomas. So

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we'll get to that. But first, we were talking before

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the show, Thomas and Pete why we name the show

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The Inquisition, and Thomas was dropping some knowledge. I'm wondering, Thomas,

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if you can kind of get back into what you

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were saying about the reality of the Inquisition. It's one

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of the most misunderstood and maligned periods in European history.

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So if you could kind of give us a little

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bit of a background, we'll take it from there and

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explain how that relates to what we're trying to do

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here in our current situation on the American right in

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twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like I said, I'm not a medieval list

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and I'm not Roman Catholic, but I do know something

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about I do know something about the subject, particularly as

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it relates to the development of the modern state and

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the fourth ings of the Kaolic Church in the late

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Medieval in early modern period are it's essential to understand

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those things to understand the development of the modern state

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before and live. I mean the point that the reason

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why government workers and people in the administrative elopment are

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called they referred to as clerical workers because clerics literally

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used to be responsible for those of domains, you know.

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And even magia Velli he he suggested that Ferdinand Isabella

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created the first modern state in Spain, which is a

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bit which is a bit in congruous of the overall

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overall trajectory of European political history. I mean that this

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happened in Spain. That's a little bit outside the scope

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of discussion. But even as Spain entered, like the Westphalian

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era arguably spearheaded it. You know, before before the pace

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it was failure was in with anybody's contemplation, you know. Uh,

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the Calolic Church constituted kind of the middle layer of

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the administrative state, and obviously enforcing political consensus and preventing

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subversion of the state by priestly clerical elements was essential.

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I mean, I think the point of people a lot too.

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You know, the Inquisition endured for three centuries, you know,

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and in Spain during the Civil War, in three years,

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the Communists slaughtered more clergy people in three years than

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the total number of people executed by the Inquisition over

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three centuries. This is ideal, like like like randos who

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are conceptually illiterate, Like the Inquisition is like the Crusades.

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It's like this thing that they have no understanding of,

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they have no knowledge of, they can't tell anything about it.

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But it's some stand in for something that's really really bad.

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But you know, I enforcing a consensus is essential, and

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Catholic the Roman Church.

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Speaker 2: Is that.

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Speaker 3: They're negatively political apparatus. I'm not saying that umutively, it's

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just a fact. You know, I'm not I'm not down

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on Catholics or Catholic people or their institutions, but you know,

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so that uh, it's it's hard enough and even a

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congregational level to prevent people from you know, subverting doctrine.

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you know, the thing is, if you were a reform

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to congregant, there's alway there's kind of a readily available

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metric to the kind of preclude that. And that's scripture,

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you know, And despite what people tell you, like, scripture

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is not just this open ended thing, you know, it

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actually it actually it actually does a concrete meaning, and

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you know it, Uh, it's it's kind of it's kind

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of perfectly invocable as as controlling precedent. But and that's

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the short answer as to what the inquisition was. You know.

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And obviously there were abuses they're in because I mean

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there always are in any kind of police apparatus, but

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or you know, defacto or literal. But you know, the

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more important than the enforcing of the consensus in in politics,

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particularly like where we fall on things, is there there's

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problems that people it's like declaring that they're that that

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they're part of our ship when they're not, or just

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like declaring that there's some like big tent sensibility that

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exists like that, doesn't you know? I made the point before,

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like most they hate shit. I get it's some of

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these like random like conservatives or like white nationalists weirdos

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like declare that like I'm like doing them dirty by

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like representing the message raw, and I'm like, to me,

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you're just some faggot, like you have nothing to do

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with me. Yeah, like we're not part of the same thing.

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But that's kind of a different issue. But if that's

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what you were asking in fact, and I didn't misunderstand, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean there's a big difference between you know,

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people talking shit and people who don't really hold our

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views or if not even like down the line point

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for point, like big picture long term goals, like what

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do they want to see happen in the world, what

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do they want for America for the future, and what

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is their opinion on the global uh geopolitical landscape as

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it as it rests right now, and where do they

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wanted to go? There's uh there's differences of opinion, and

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then there's active subversion. And I think the Inquisition was

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partially to get to get rid of people who were

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actively subverting. I mean you said, not not on not

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on record, but earlier today you said, they can't have

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like revolutionary priests with like some sort of you know,

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idiosyncratic doctrine doctrine running around.

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Speaker 3: So well, yeah, if you're if you're a priest, you've

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you've got certain dispensations. You know, it's not it's not

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like being a general, and it's not like being you know,

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some like middle level elected official or something. You know,

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and especially the way the Roman Church does things. And

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again this doesn't mean trashing Catholics. Prese have a lot

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of power because there's a huge there's a huge body

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of work adjacent then, like to the Scripture and Catholicism,

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you know, and it's it's written in languages that very

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few men can read and understand, and it's it basically

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it's a lifetime of study. So if you're if you're

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some like regular person, and particularly in those days when

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a lot of people, you know, weren't literate, I mean

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now most people are like functionally illiterate, but like I'm

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talking like in in in in in literal terms, you know,

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like they like if a priest tells you something and

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he says, you know, this is that, this is this

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or like this is you know, this is what this

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encyclical means. You know that that's tremendous power there, man,

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you know, and that uh you know, and and there

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is a sense of you know, don't question me. This

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isn't your domain. You know, I'm a priest and you're not.

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do need and you do need to give clerical types,

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you know, something of a wide birth and not not

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trying to regulate. You know, there the scholarly activity or

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or the way they proselytize like win certain parameters. But yeah,

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there was Clerical people are uniquely situated to cause problems.

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ridiculous like you know, like like pretend pastor lady who

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was like trying to excoriate Trump, like nobody pays attention

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to people. It's like laugh at people like that, and

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like nobody like like nobody actually believes and like bullshit

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like woke Episcopalism.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: So there's like there's like four like blue haired ninety

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year old ladies to like go to churches like that.

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this emerged and look at like the I mean, I'm

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know during when when the Cold War in the final phase,

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when things got really hot in Latin America. Uh, you know,

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like an Salvator particularly, you had like Warsaw Pack to

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like a lied priests who were like, we're basically dropping

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like Marxist Leninists doctrine on people. It's like, oh, this

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is this, you know that this is correct doctrine, you know,

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and particularly in a place like call Salvator, Nicaragua, where

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where people were in like enduring like truly material deprivation,

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you know, and and we're being impacted by that political

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violence in day to day terms, like like a man

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like that wields tremendous power, you know, So this isn't

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just something that you know happened in ancient history. And

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that's That's why John Paul the second was so essential.

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the he stood up to the Communists, the Stalinists in

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like this beloved guy and he he could, uh, he

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could basically enforce doctrine like contra these subverters about looking

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some kind of political cipher for you know, like American

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or the unders of America or like or you know,

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the bundest Republic, which in those days it's that they

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that's why it gets so angry. And it takes a

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lot to get me angry. Frankly, I'm like an incredibly

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chilled person when these uh, when these fucking morons like

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on the internet they get mad at me for like

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making fun of like Princess Dicky Spencer or like bread

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mold yarb and like no and I'm used to the rights.

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I'm like the some motherfuckers I'm knowing to do it,

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like these guys aren't part of the rights. And even

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if they were, okay, so what they're assholes, you know,

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not gonna like not criticize assholes because of some imaginary

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big tent uh political party you think you belong to.

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like I I mean, I don't. I don't fuck with

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that stuff anyway.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like a I don't know why it's

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not clear to people. I guess because people don't read.

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I'm not. I'm not trying to sound like some no

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better or something. But I don't understand when you can

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like read my shit and then like misunderstand it or

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get it twisted. It's like, I'm not trying to build

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some political party. I'm not. I'm not I'm not trying

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to like I'm not trying to like capture like the

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Republican National Committee or like get people to like vote

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for this like random congressman or something. It's like, I

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don't care about that ship. That's fucking bullshit or I mean,

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if that's like your thing, fine, I mean, I that's great.

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I'm not gonna like make fun of people if that's

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Speaker 1: But that's probably I'm glad you said that. No enemies

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punching right and calling out uh, you know people who

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are actively lying or subverting.

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Speaker 3: Well look, yeah, they also think that, like they also

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think that like crazy Zionists who love Ukraine or like

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wing or something like. It's like, what that has nothing

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Speaker 1: An't Yeah exactly, Well, I wanted to say that when

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you're if you know you read, let me let me

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when you read.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think one of the one of the

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best sources on the Inquisition is De Maestra Mike and

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Imperium Press has a put out a version of his

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letters he had written to a Russian noble that's not named,

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but basically what you see is it's the Inquisition. Was

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it's gatekeeper. That's how it started out. It was okay,

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are these Catholics? Did they have a genuine conversion, and

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then what it becomes is it becomes a court system.

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It becomes a judicial system where they bring people who

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are accused of crimes and the priests investigated and then

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they make recommendations to the cortes. And you know, I

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don't think now you can make the argument that the

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Inquisition was pretty much done by the time that they

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disbanded it. But I don't think it's a you know,

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it's a coincidence that as soon as they disbanded it,

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Spain basically erupted into chaos and had three carlist wars

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like one after another over a twenty year period. It

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seemed to have it seemed it was something that actually

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worked as a keeping a cohesion in order, you know,

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and probably Spain losing the empire was probably the worst

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downfall that could happen, but that was bound to happen.

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But yeah, I think the Inquisition is very very simple

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to understand, especially I mean, the Demestra thing is just

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a pamphlet and you read those and you're like, okay,

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this is he's explaining exactly what it was, and it

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was gatekeeping and judicial process basically.

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Speaker 3: No, the the Iberian States and France like needed the

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Catholic Church, like it's an essential part of their but

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like sociologically it's necessary, like otherwise their play low culture

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has no context and it can't function. Yeah, that that's

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one hundred percent true. Like Morass was an atheist, but

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he's like he he he'd speaking of gatekeeping, he'd exclude

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people who attack the Catholic Church from action Frans because like,

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we can't do that, because that's totally self defeating. And

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he was like literally an atheist, like he didn't he

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didn't personally give a fuck about Catholicism, but he's like,

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you can't. You can't dismantle Catholicism in France and solve

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it anything, you know, because it'll have no core.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so yeah, the people you find most often

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punching right are the interlopers and not the real people

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you know. Very often, the people who you find punching right,

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you trace back where their influences are, where they're coming from.

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They're not coming out of right wing institutions, or they're

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coming out of institutions that have a long storied history

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of subverting the right wing. So I'd like to name

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some of them soon. But Pete just to stick to

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what you were talking about, because that's what you just said.

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That's the conversation that made me want to do this episode.

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We talked about this a few months ago. When you

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say conversion and was it a real conversion? Are you

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saying that or just just a meestra say that some

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of these people had pretended to convert in order to

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insinuate themselves into sow discord or to propagate their own ideas.

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Speaker 4: Well. According to his his letters, a lot less than

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you think, it seemed like the majority of the Jews

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and the Muslims who had converted to Catholicism were genuine conversions.

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And it seems like the court is really only punished,

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did any punishment, put any punishment upon them when they

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were openly lying and they wouldn't leave because they were

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given they were given the option convert or leave the country.

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You had to you either converted to Catholicism, you had

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to go. And they realized, well, some people are gonna

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lie and and it's okay with their religion and their

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belief system to do that so that they can stay

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in that they can continue to subvert subvert the country.

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So yeah, I mean the one thing you get outed

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to Maestro is you realize the inquisition. The inquis sitters

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came to the conclusion that a lot of them were

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genuine conversions, but there were a lot that weren't.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's also yeah, and that's the thing like with

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like especially in the case of like Modonno's Yeah, it's

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a it's a term of derision for a for a

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Jewish converso, but a lot of these guys to pe point, yeah,

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like uh like tell them what to Judaism definitely says

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it's okay to like trick people who like aren't of

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your tribe and basically like mirk them, and there's nothing

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wrong with that. But if you're gonna go with through

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your life like literally pretending to be Catholic, like keeping

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up appearances and fooling your Catholic neighbors, doing everything a

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Catholic needs to do, like especially a couple of centuries ago,

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or even like even a century ago. So it's like

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basically you're gonna be like you're you're actually like a

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believing Jew who hates Christ, but you're gonna literally pretend

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to be Catholic twenty four, verse seven. I mean that

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that's not yeah, there's guys who did that. But so basically,

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like you're gonna I mean, it's not like a life

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that's really sustainable for a lot of people, you know.

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I mean, that's it's so I mean, there's that it's

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somewhat self regulatory, but it's also you know, a lot

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of this is a maybe a bit upside the skull.

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But the eighteen forty eight revolutions, a lot of that

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came from within dissident elements and Catholicism and a lot

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of these like kind of utopian socialists who were like

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proto Bolsheviks. That was a huge thing, you know, and

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so and obviously like the Inquisition had been profoundly weakened,

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and like the internal regulatory mechanism that you know, extrinsic

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to the Inquisition and it kind of been defanged. That's

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one of the reasons why that that's one of the

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reasons why like the like the carless fiction of the

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of the Nationalist Coalition in Spain in the thirties were

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like so aggressively, you know, trying to root out non

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believers in their own ranks. But like a lot of

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that came from guys who were Aposta Catholics, you know,

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some of whom are Madonnas, but like a lot of

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whom were like Spanish radicals, you know, so that it's

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a it's a it's a it's a complicated thing. I mean,

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like I said, if you're I mean the Tholanism just

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like totally different, you know, like I said, like if you're,

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if you're somebody like me, you know, like not only

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is there not like a true reform congregation, like we

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don't even accept like synods and ship That's why, like

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it's a joke when I'm this one these jokers in Missouri,

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like they they declared themselves to be like the Reformed

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Synod or something and declared that like Calvinist Presby's basically

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need to like prove that anti semitic. So basically like

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pretty much like every congregation is like yeah, that's what

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we think about that, you know, because it's like the

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fuck are you? You know, like it's you're you're nobody,

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you know. But it in the Roman Church there is

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a hierarchy, you know, and it is global in scope

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and a yeain, I'm not like saying that it's bad

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or something, but that's just what that does change things

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you know, and it if you get people uh, you know,

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if you get if the pope is compromised in some way,

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you know, and you've got some kind of counsel, a

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cardinals or something that uh, that that's able to kind

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of guide the trajectory of a church policy that can

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be catastrophic, you know. And that's that's what was it,

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The threat of that was emergent, especially eighteen forty eight.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, I'll bring it up to the present

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day in a minute. I want to stick with this

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just for a couple more points here, Pete or Thomas,

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off the top of your head, about when do you

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think the Spanish Inquisition started and how long after the

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Reconquista was that more or less or do you even

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look at the beginning of the Inquisition starting in Spain,

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because I know there was multiple.

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Speaker 4: Most people will say fourteen ninety two. The Demeestra points

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to interviews that were being done earlier, in like the

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fourteen twenties, what was it the Paul Fahrenheit and I

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talked about the Disputation of Tortosa, which was in the

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fourteen twenties, which was basically a bunch of Jews and

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a bunch of Catholics had, you know, basically it had

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open conversations and there were Jews who actually converted, like

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on the spot. It was kind of kind of odd.

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But so I think to my strip points to that,

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But really it's fourteen ninety two. It's when you're coming up.

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I mean, I guess some might say fourteen eighty eight

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to give it a couple give it a few years prior,

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but yeah, then and then I think really it's an

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eight around eighteen twenty. Some people say eighteen thirty one

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is when it ends, but it's really probably around eighteen

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twelve when wars are kicking out all over where, there's

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war everywhere, and they just it's it's abandoned at that point.

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So and it's probably that was probably just the time

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that it needed to go away a change. I mean

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obviously that if you really look at that, there's a

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changing of the spirit of the age at that point

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that's taking over in Europe. I mean, would you agree

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with that to Thomas, a changing of the spirit of

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the age around.

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Speaker 3: That time, definitely. And it's also the that post uh,

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the post Jacob in post Reign of Terror epoch, and

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I mean the the Battle of the Nations and you

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know Napoleon's final push for European and this world domination. Yeah,

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that that that changed everything, among other things. And yeah,

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the nineteenth century, you know, I I I buy what

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haswell I'm said about about the long century in the

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nineteenth century in Europe being uh in relative terms, uh

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you know, a uh in power political terms, you know,

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a period of a stasis. Eighteen forty eight was kind

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of a punctuated exception, but that but that didn't turn

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into something like the j and Revolution of the Bullshrik Revolution.

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But after after Waterloo, like Europe basically like settled into

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stasis contra America, which was like tearing itself to pieces.

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But yeah, that's that's correct. And yeah, I the uh

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the Roman Church had like a day after die like

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not in doc final terms, like in political terms, you know,

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they they couldn't do things the way they did before.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree, yeah, uh, Pete, that's more or

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less when I uh understand the beginning of the Inquisition

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as well. And I I read about a Spanish priest

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named Alfonso Diaspina whose book The Fortress of Faith, which

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I didn't realize at first was never translated out of

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Latin and it's known as the fort to light them

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uh fe day. But basically, and this speaks to a

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lot of what Thomas was saying about the Inquisition in

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the eighteen or excuse me, in the Middle Ages. In Europe,

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the communication, you know, took weeks or months for people

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to communicate with each other across across Europe. So the

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Roman Catholic Church kind of had to rely on its

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bishops and its deacons throughout throughout all of Europe to

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kind of all preach the correct doctrine. And this guy,

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Alfonso de'aspina, went to Nuremberg right after the printing press

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was invented and told many stories about Spanish Jews who

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converted to Catholicism and had become priests, who had been

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seen a I mean, he accuses them of all these rituals.

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I read about this in a book about Simon of Trent,

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so it's obviously about blood libel, but he also accused

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them of teaching the wrong doctrines. And he accused them

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of uh, you know, scheming or making concessions to Muslims

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against Christians. And of course, you know, this is considered

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a bunch of propaganda and lies. Interestingly enough, this is

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all also how the Transylvanian Saxon spread information about what

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Vlad the Impaler was doing to them. They also went

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to Nuremberg and that's where they would print all these

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books and they would get spread around, and so that

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more or less tracks with the inquisition for both people

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who don't preach the correct doctrine but also have false

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conversions or maybe have duplicitous alignment or duplicitous allegiances. And

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that's kind of how we came up with the name here.

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That's how we came up with the name here because

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we've been seeing rhetoric floating around, especially after October seventh,

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it's been escalating, and a lot of the rhetoric that's

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around the supposed online right mirrors or mimics of rhetoric

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that we've been hearing for decades now from certain factions

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in American right link discourse, where there, like I said earlier,

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the punching right typically is done I've seen by interlopers,

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and you have a lot of these figures or figureheads

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who are doing a lot of this that work behind

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the scenes or are paid or funded by somebody who

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is very openly not aligned with our ideals. And I

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could just drop a bunch of names, and they all

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go back to things everybody's familiar with, particularly the American

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Enterprise Institute. So and the Manhattan Institute is the other one.

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These both arose more or less at the same time,

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and these institutions, especially the American Enterprise Institute, are responsible

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for and they were the place of publication for a

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lot of the neo Kon ideas that of course ended up,

472
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:49,680
you know, putting all these people in infamy with the

473
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,759
war in Iraq, and they ended up being the never trumpers.

474
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,279
And lo and behold, you know me, Stormy and Pete

475
00:30:56,279 --> 00:31:00,000
were doing some investigation and we find people who are

476
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,200
fron some of some of the very same names, right

477
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:06,279
that were part of all of that, are still, you know,

478
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,880
showing up within the right, within the online right, and

479
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,079
a punching right and b pushing ideas that are just

480
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:15,720
not aligned with what we think. So I don't know

481
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,079
if where you guys want to start, but this all

482
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,559
started when Stormy showed us, or showed me the board

483
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,119
of the Manhattan Institute. And the first thing I noticed

484
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,799
a was that many of these board members on the

485
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,880
Manhattan Institute were also board members of the American Enterprise Institute.

486
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,079
And the second thing I noticed what's stuck out like

487
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:40,640
a sore thumb was Bill Crystal's nameless on there, who

488
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,880
was one of the most infamous neo cons that that

489
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:49,160
that exists. And of course the American excuse me, the

490
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,559
Manhattan Institute is behind the huge push for DEI and

491
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:59,359
anti c RT, which seems very very amenable to right

492
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,799
wing thought right. It seems like we're against that, which

493
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:04,880
I think we all are. But it turns out the

494
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:09,160
reason they are against DEI and CRT and are pushing

495
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,319
all of this, and there's a ton of money behind

496
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:14,400
this push, which we can get into in just a minute, uh,

497
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:17,480
is because, of course DEI and CRT lends itself to

498
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:22,839
anti Israel and anti Zionist rhetoric. So the occupier colonials,

499
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:26,720
I mean this is specifically on their website they say

500
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:31,680
this term, these terms specifically occupier and colonialists, which were

501
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,200
applied to white Americans, are now being applied to Zionists

502
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,440
and Israelis. So they have to shut that down.

503
00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: Woke now it is, well, I mean, nobody supports that bullshit,

504
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:48,279
So like that's part of it because these guys, like

505
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:51,119
like the Project from the New American Century, guys they realize,

506
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,279
they like they realize they have to keep up certain

507
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:58,720
appeurrences so like and like part of their whole thing,

508
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,640
part of their whole ongoing thing, is that, oh, you're

509
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,880
not right wing, you don't support Israel, and Israel are

510
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,960
like these white people and they're being besieged by these

511
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:11,920
bad brown people who are who are socialists. Like it's

512
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,799
it's it's very it's very fake, it's very very uh

513
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,799
at odds with reality, but that that's basically where that

514
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,279
comes from. And it's also too like these guys, they

515
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:26,279
they want to control the narrative and they want to

516
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:29,160
present it like, oh, there's these people who don't like

517
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:32,960
Israel because they're socialists, or there are these wol liberals,

518
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:38,759
like that's not you know, that's the these such that

519
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:42,319
there are like these fucking like NPC illiterates who like

520
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,119
think they quote support Palestine because the same kids of

521
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:48,640
people who simultaneously like think they love Ukraine like they're

522
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,400
not in the game. They're nobody's you know, like if

523
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,880
you're and they'll I've got some authority to speak on

524
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,720
this because like I fuck with a lot of Palestinian

525
00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:02,519
people and a jay and elements here, and you know,

526
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:06,240
they they've got a pretty active community anywhere's University of Chicago.

527
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:11,599
It's a pretty active, like Palestine liberationist tendency like that.

528
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:15,960
The truly like left wing ideologues, like guys like Rashid Khalidi,

529
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:22,280
they're basically they're basically like old school like paleo leftists,

530
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,119
a lot of whom are like very very Maslim, like

531
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,559
the idea that they're the kinds of guys who are

532
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,000
who are into like Kamala Harrison, and that bullshit is retarded,

533
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,400
like they're they're two totally different things. So take take

534
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,880
with a grain of salt when Zionists claim that we've

535
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,360
got a real Bigdei, because you know, it's it's a

536
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,159
bunch of wokies who hate Israel. It's just more of

537
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,760
the same, like Israel is the only Western country in

538
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,039
the Middle East, because if you're some crazy Jewish guy,

539
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,800
you're Western, you know, like it's uh, it's it's it's that,

540
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,239
it's that same fucking Horley shit exactly.

541
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,199
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad you laid that out because what I

542
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,800
wanted to add to that is that what you're saying

543
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,159
now right, You see that thrown around on the quote

544
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,840
unquote dissident right right by A nons who are supposedly

545
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,960
these hardcore you know, racists whatever A nons, dissidents, the

546
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:23,599
stuff Thomas is talking about that. You see, they didn't

547
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:25,880
come up with this, They didn't just start saying this.

548
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,639
I mean, some of them are historically illiterate and they're

549
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,280
they don't know what they're saying, but they're not They

550
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,000
didn't invent it. They're picking it up. And you know,

551
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:37,559
I'm old enough to remember these exact same lines were

552
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:42,599
printed by people like Bill Crystal, Jeffrey Goldberg, David From

553
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:45,440
in the op eds in the New York Times, in

554
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:51,639
National Review, on Fox News, and too. Sam fucking Harris,

555
00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:56,239
the atheist New Atheists used to say exactly this shit

556
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,559
in like two thousand. This was how they, you know,

557
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,079
justified the run up to to the UH invasion of

558
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:06,800
Iraq and the people that they were calling left wing,

559
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,920
you'll you you'll be called a third world is sen

560
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,800
a left winger? Right now? If you say I don't

561
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,400
think Israel should you know, be like completely decimating and

562
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,400
massacring Palestinian women and children. You'll be called left wing,

563
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:26,079
just like David from called Pat Buchanan and just like uh,

564
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:29,719
Jeffrey Goldberg called Sam Francis left wing during the war

565
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,920
on up to Iraq. So this has a storied history,

566
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:35,159
and these people are doing the same thing, and they're

567
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,039
literally the same people because all those people were coming

568
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:42,440
from the American Enterprise Institute. So I'd like it. Yeah,

569
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:42,840
I don't.

570
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: I don't understand why I was supposed to. Like, it's like, okay,

571
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:51,320
like like Zionists and a sort of other like human trash,

572
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:53,840
call me you left wing. Okay, I'm a left wing

573
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,360
like a I mean, that's that that means much of

574
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,159
me as somebody calling me a fagot, you know what

575
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:04,079
I mean. It's like, okay, that's great, Like I I mean,

576
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:10,360
I this is a subject for another day. But I

577
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,480
I don't. You you can't even really talk about right

578
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:15,840
and left wing after the Cold War because it doesn't

579
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,719
really exist. You know, there's there's globalism, and intrinsic to

580
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:26,119
the globalist enterprises is a belief in the legitimacy of Zionism.

581
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,599
And there's the resistance, and like the resistance is a piss.

582
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,159
These different cultures and and you know the different playabo

583
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:41,800
cultures and different you know, human cultures, you know that

584
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,559
that are very different from one another. But like that

585
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:47,360
that's all there is. There's not this that That's why

586
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,320
so many people are like confused as fuck, Like there's

587
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,280
not that they think that there's like this wide spectrum

588
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,400
of ideas that's like competing for hegemony like in this

589
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:03,039
like soide around like West or something like. That's that's

590
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:06,079
that's that's literally at odds with reality. That's like decades

591
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:12,920
out of date. You know, there's not there's only there's

592
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,920
only globalism and the resistance, and there's only one way

593
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:18,039
like modern states are configured. You know. I made that

594
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:21,320
point again too. That's why like the democracy floating signifier

595
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,440
doesn't make any sense. There's not like dozens of ways

596
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,559
that you know, states are configured, you know, and there's

597
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:33,920
not there's not some struggle underway, you know, between you

598
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,519
know what what it used to be called the first

599
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:38,800
world and some like alternative system that like where billions

600
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,679
of people live under you know what I mean, Like

601
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:43,599
that doesn't make any sense. It's like I'm left wing

602
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,599
like I that, but it's also too, like we're not

603
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,880
we're not a political party. So I mean, even if

604
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,920
I was like, okay, so what you know, I I don't.

605
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,400
I don't like like Jackson A. Hinkle, And I think

606
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,320
a lot of the like the series left, like the

607
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,840
post Marxist uh left, has made some of a comeback,

608
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,199
at least if you're talking about plitical theory types. Like

609
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,880
he makes the point again again too, you know, and

610
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,480
he's like he's like, you know, he's like he's like

611
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,280
Harris voters and the kind of people who plump money

612
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,400
into that campaign. He's like, he's like, why are they

613
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,199
left wing? He's like, there's like if anything, He's like

614
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,679
a lot of them are just like hyper capitalists, degenerates

615
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:31,320
who who who you know, can have decided like try

616
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,920
and create some sort of ideology around their like weirdo lifestyles.

617
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:41,400
But that's actually uh traditional Marxist to do that kind

618
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,960
of stuff, as as some kind of like stop gap

619
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,320
effort to like preserve the capitalist structure. It's like, Okay,

620
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,159
we're gonna let you be as degenerated as you want.

621
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:52,639
We're gonna give you all these incentives we're gonna create,

622
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:56,440
We're gonna carve out like certain entitlements, you know, like

623
00:39:56,599 --> 00:40:01,440
free healthcare, you know, to to basically prevents, you know,

624
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:04,559
the advance of the historical process. I mean, obviously I

625
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:08,039
don't accept that paradigm, but that's but it's the idea that, uh,

626
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,480
but this idea that you know, these are like doctrinally

627
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:16,159
principled left wingers or like people who are actually like

628
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,360
knowledgeable about legal theory, you know, like on you know,

629
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,199
on the wocal left or whatever, like he like hinkles

630
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,159
right about that, Like these these people are just stupid assholes,

631
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:29,039
you know, and like they're not they don't know what

632
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:29,880
the fuck they think.

633
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 4: Well, there's also the point that you make, Thomas about

634
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:40,239
how once you realize it's globalism and anti globalism third choose,

635
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,800
saying that you're a third positionist is just that doesn't exist. Now,

636
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,239
what what do you think? All the way I look

637
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,760
at the people who say their third positionist is is

638
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,800
they don't want to be associated with some of the

639
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,000
people that are anti globalists. So they're like, well, you know,

640
00:40:57,559 --> 00:40:59,840
I'm not going to be on the side even though

641
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,559
they may be fighting my enemy. I'm not going to

642
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:05,199
be a third worldisc And you know and say the

643
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:10,280
Palestinians and cheer on the Palestinians in their fight. So

644
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,760
I'm gonna be I'm a third positionist because you know,

645
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,599
I can't be associated with certain people. It's almost like

646
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:21,039
this like they're like some kind of weird like like

647
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,519
they they think they're above it all and they don't.

648
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: Well the same guys. I think they're bad as is.

649
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,960
I don't care what it is in the Middle East.

650
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,599
It's like okay, I mean that's if you're a grown man,

651
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:35,880
you don't get to like not take a position or

652
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,159
you can, but I mean just admit you're an NPC

653
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,519
and like you're not in the game, you know, like

654
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:46,400
it doesn't that's it's like, uh, this this idea that

655
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:49,519
well what's also too like the guy's saying this kind

656
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:51,719
of stuff like they live in places like America or

657
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,400
the UK. It's like there there is no Briton, like

658
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,199
there was no like, uh, you don't live in some

659
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:01,960
you don't live in some like European country that's you know,

660
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:06,199
got some like robust independent like political system. You know,

661
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:08,840
it's a it's like what happens to you is decided

662
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,519
in Washington and what happens in and was decided in

663
00:42:11,679 --> 00:42:17,079
Washington impacts this entire planet. And you know, the what

664
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:20,800
what happens in on battle fronts like Ukraine or Gaza

665
00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:28,840
has this positive impact on what policy is within the

666
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,000
global apparatus. And anybody don't understand that is profoundly ignorant.

667
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:37,320
Its not a question of caring about things. And like

668
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,559
anybody thinks that too, doesn't understand politics. You know, it's

669
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:48,440
a question of power activity and whether you know one's

670
00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:54,400
enemies are are succeeding or failing, and uh, you know

671
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:59,360
what position you take on you know, you the the

672
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,880
enterprise is that your people's enemies undertake is critical to

673
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,679
their objective. You know, Like I'm I but I mean

674
00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:11,320
I don't. I don't argue this point with people who

675
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,280
say those kinds of things because they're stupid, I mean else,

676
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:20,440
Like incidentally, like I you guys are talking about these

677
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,840
punch to the right types, like I run across Randoh's

678
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,239
and they say, like that's why I hate like the

679
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,639
quote red pill metaphor, like like globalism and the sociation regime.

680
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:34,920
It's not just like secret nobody knows about. And you've

681
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,440
got to be like a weird to some like special

682
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:41,760
gnosis to understand it. Like anybody thinks that way is

683
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,320
a fucking retard, you know. It's like the same people

684
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,199
are like, no, you shouldn't criticize Richard Spencer because see,

685
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,239
like first you read like William Crystal, then you can

686
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,119
read Richard Spencer. Then you find this guy's website and

687
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:57,880
you you get red Pill. It's like, what the fuck

688
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,800
are you talking about? Like there's not It's almost like

689
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,960
the way police talk about draw. It was like, see,

690
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,079
first you smoke marijuana, you know, then you start doing cocaine,

691
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:09,440
and then you're like shooting Fenton Al into your eyeballs

692
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,519
and like you're good like like that, who the fuck

693
00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:16,119
thinks like, because what they're doing is they're like plotting

694
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:22,760
their own weirdo uh faux intellectual journey to whatever stupid

695
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,599
ideas they have. So they claim that like everybody is

696
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:32,119
somehow like brainwashed by legacy media. And then like you

697
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:36,119
start reading stupid stuff by zionists. But then you realize

698
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:39,760
you're like afraid of black people, so you start reading

699
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,000
like some crazy Jewish guy who like you know, is

700
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,559
a race realist. But then you like start reading this

701
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,079
you know, it's like that's I don't know how anybody

702
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:53,519
can think that way. But this is also why, you know,

703
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,519
I this is also why I'm always making the point

704
00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:59,880
that we're not trying to convert in armies because they're

705
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:02,960
you know, I mean not that I'm so smart, but

706
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,400
it's not a matter of intelligence. It's a matter of

707
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:12,159
being able to, you know, perceive political realities and understanding

708
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:14,440
the implications of these things. And like most people aren't

709
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,960
built for political thinking, like they're not hard enough or something.

710
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:21,480
And I'm sure that's a component of it, but it

711
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,599
like people get this or they don't. Like some some

712
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:28,360
people can understand theoretical physics, most people can't. Well, most

713
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,440
people can't understand politics. They just can't. Well, I don't

714
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,039
think that's just the way human minds are.

715
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 4: How does that relate to, you know, the culture bearing

716
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,719
element is that, I mean, the people will think that

717
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,079
because they've been quote unquote red pilled on the JQ

718
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,960
or something all of a sudden, and now they're they're

719
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:55,920
like part of the high culture of a you know,

720
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,719
of a society of a group of a people.

721
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean that that that's obviously asine too,

722
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,639
but it's also like these guys they I mean, you

723
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:09,519
can sell when you're talking to somebody, like whether they

724
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:12,760
understand these things and like a meaningful capacity. They don't.

725
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:14,840
Like even most of these guys who are like yeah,

726
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,360
like I'm pulled in the JQ, they don't even understand

727
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,679
what they means, Like they have this idea that like

728
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,760
Jews or it's some standing for bad guys or something,

729
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:25,280
or like oh, Jews are left winging, Like they don't.

730
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,039
They don't actually understand anything about it, you know, like

731
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:35,559
and it's it's not I mean most like uh probably,

732
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:36,920
I mean the were only the majority of people. I mean,

733
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,719
you can't put a percentage on it. But like most

734
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,639
people have no business like trying to fuck with politics

735
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:45,440
that they just don't, just like I've got no business

736
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:49,159
like deciding I'm gonna talk about nuclear physics, you know.

737
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,639
I mean yeah, like whenever where the rubber meets the road.

738
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,519
I mean, politics impacts people onto logically, like whether you're

739
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,320
like what like whether you're a guy who works at

740
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,400
a fast food restaurant is like Q of eighty, or

741
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,599
whether you're some like savant political theorists, you know, the

742
00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:13,639
like the friend enemy paradigm like impacts people in like

743
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,719
day to day like real ways and like instinctively, you know,

744
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:24,639
people understand these existential realities like on some like primitive level,

745
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,280
I mean obviously, but in terms of actually unpacking and

746
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:34,480
identifying like what the aspects are of of a of

747
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:39,840
of of political reality, like theoretically and practically, like like

748
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,719
ninety percent of people like can't understand that whatsoever or

749
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,239
they've got no business like dening to like try or

750
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,079
think that they have a say on it, because they

751
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:52,079
have no fucking ability to That's the issue.

752
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, in terms of like punching right and you know,

753
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,840
calling people names, I don't necessarily give a shit about that,

754
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,960
although sometimes people do get hurt, and some of the

755
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,880
stuff that happens is really fucking nefarious and and the worst,

756
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:11,639
the worst ship that you see like dosing and stuff

757
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:15,239
I've I've never seen that happen on the right except

758
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,159
for from one of these fucking mouthpieces who works for somebody?

759
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:22,559
Speaker 4: H Oh, when when the t R s? When?

760
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: When? When?

761
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 4: What the hell was the name of that d One

762
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,400
of our friends, one of our good friends, was part

763
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,840
of this podcast that was like a Southern identity podcast.

764
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet I'm thinking of the same one you are.

765
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:42,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, they all got docks. How they get docks. They

766
00:48:42,199 --> 00:48:44,840
got dogs from the inside, by their by their quote

767
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,280
unquote friends.

768
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, was it It's not the was it the rod

769
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:52,519
rare one?

770
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 2: No?

771
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 4: No, this was this. This goes back to right around

772
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,039
right around Charlottesville.

773
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,199
Speaker 3: Okay, you're some kind of weird free who like yeah,

774
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,880
yeah I know something. Yeah, any's there's something really really

775
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,800
wrong with that guy. But no, and that's a serious thing.

776
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,920
But it's also I mean people, especially normal people with families,

777
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,679
who who you have like a nine to five job

778
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,280
or like a professional career. I mean, obviously they they've

779
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,239
got to they've got to guard their privacy. But I

780
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:31,719
people who who people who don't at families and who

781
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,880
strike a partisan posture, like like you've got to like

782
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,119
you've got to just like grow up and like stand

783
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:39,719
by your ship and like stand on business. And if

784
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,480
you like I feel if you're like terrified as some

785
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:45,400
like some like crazy Zionist or there's some like pink

786
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,280
haired lady he works for like an m g O

787
00:49:47,519 --> 00:49:49,199
like going into the internet and saying you're like a

788
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,639
bad person who said mean things it's like, well, you

789
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,760
really gotta like fucking check your ship, like you shouldn't

790
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:02,800
care frankly, you know, but uh yeah, I.

791
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: More of this are thing is for everyone.

792
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:16,119
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, the thought I'm sorry, oh but no, go ahead.

793
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say to your point, that's what

794
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,599
I was. That's that's exactly where I was drawn the

795
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:24,320
metaphor with the inquisition. You know, why are you anonymous?

796
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:27,440
If you don't have any you know, anything to lose.

797
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,519
Why are you anonymous? Is it to subvert? Are you?

798
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,519
And some of the people, you know, some of the people,

799
00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:34,960
most of the people I have in mind actually aren't anonymous,

800
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:38,679
like Roderer and there's a few others. But some people,

801
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,639
some people are anonymous, and you wonder why, you know,

802
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,880
And it's interesting that you find out that they have

803
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,280
these subversive agendas and you say, is that why you're anonymous?

804
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,400
Because you didn't want people to know that about you?

805
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:53,519
Speaker 3: Well, also, the other the other problem too, is like

806
00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:56,480
the people have liked them, Like generally people have liked

807
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,960
the memory of a goldfish, like one of the things

808
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,320
that's fancy to me, like when it became like what

809
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,280
I mean when I say like woke is dead. Is

810
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,199
that like basically that like the zeitguys just like shifted

811
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,000
right word and like normy terms.

812
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

813
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: So now there's like a million idiots like this fucking

814
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,000
homo like Cernovich or is that Thernovich, Like he literally

815
00:51:17,159 --> 00:51:19,400
is like this. He was like this like pee Way

816
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,239
like wigger idiot, and he'd like he literally used to

817
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,400
like post on this blog about how to like score

818
00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:28,239
with like trans people and like be a sex tourist.

819
00:51:28,679 --> 00:51:30,960
And then like when that hustle dried up, and like

820
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:33,559
pee Way's game with Lola Cow's he's like, I'm mister

821
00:51:33,679 --> 00:51:36,679
right wing. I'm pro white, you know. And now now

822
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:38,960
he like slimes his way into like all these like

823
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:42,519
uh normy like right wing events and shit, and it's

824
00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:44,840
like I said, I'm like, dude, this guy's a fucking faggot.

825
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,960
I've told people, I'm like this guy's like he's like

826
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:48,920
he's like that idiot who used to like wear that

827
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,199
big hat that talk about how to pick up girls

828
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,360
like that was his hustle. Like now he's like, oh,

829
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,519
I'm mister right wing like and people like look at

830
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:58,559
me like I'm an insane person. It's like, do your

831
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:02,400
fucking diligence man, Like most of these guys they're they're goofies,

832
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,079
like who have some kind of resume like that, Yeah.

833
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: Hunter, he's literally a scabies infected training like enthusiasts. You

834
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,239
come read my blog about how right wing I am,

835
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,760
and let me tell you how trans penis tastes like

836
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:21,000
pennies and made my mouth feel weird like nigger, like

837
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,880
who are you? What are you doing?

838
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:27,119
Speaker 3: It's also like why why are these guys like suddenly

839
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:28,719
like an authority on stuff? You know?

840
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: It's this is the thing that bothers me is how

841
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,000
rapidly these guys have rows with virtually saying the same

842
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:38,880
thing as like Bill Crystal.

843
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: Well, some of them are are backed by institutions with

844
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,079
money and I'm gonna I'm gonna yeah, I don't think

845
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,559
Cernovich is I don't know. I thought he was self made.

846
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:51,920
But some of them.

847
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: Is self made like astro am I self made? Yeah,

848
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,480
did my money your Yeah?

849
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 4: Divorced his wife and like sued her cocot her for

850
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,920
like millions of dollars.

851
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 3: And rent boy like stay at House closband, who was

852
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:21,199
like making aervy like sex blog, like yeah, that was.

853
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,679
Speaker 4: To do that I'm not gonna if you're gonna do that,

854
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,559
I'm not going to judge you. But don't be fucking brat.

855
00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:29,119
You know, don't like you. Yeah, you fucking hit a

856
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:30,679
home run. No you didn't.

857
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,039
Speaker 3: Well, all these all the one of the reason, it's

858
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:35,800
one of the reasons all these cornballs, Like I didn't

859
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,559
think this was still a thing, but like there's this

860
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:41,039
whole new generation at cornballs were like I even alpha male,

861
00:53:41,559 --> 00:53:44,039
but it's like you've never read a job. You're basically

862
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:47,119
like a male prostitute who like hangs around in some

863
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:49,800
faggy jim old day and like lies on some girl

864
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:55,239
or some guy's couch like that that's alpha male stuff.

865
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,719
But it's uh. But like all these guys like they

866
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,679
all decided they're like right wing, like when they realize that,

867
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,000
you know, like I said that, like nobody everybody viewed

868
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,280
it as coornated like talk about how to pick up

869
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,840
girls because like younger people don't like that kind of stuff,

870
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,199
Like nor should they. No, it's stupid, But that's but yeah,

871
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,960
like half of the half, like the online right or

872
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,280
like these fucking queers.

873
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 2: I actually know three prominent right wing authority figures that

874
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:30,559
are professional, professional house husbands, and some of them you

875
00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:31,119
would know.

876
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's like we're suppose.

877
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 4: May be you may have been on one of their shows,

878
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,599
or two of their shows or three of their shows.

879
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,679
Speaker 3: Yeah no, this shit's a joke, and like that's I mean,

880
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,360
that's uh yeah, like these guys are these guys are

881
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,400
studio gangsters rit large.

882
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, but they're they're gonna lead kids. These are

883
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,840
the type of people that tell kids to like, hey,

884
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,480
go do this or go do this protest activity and

885
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:03,079
just get young dudes hung hum like hemmed up while

886
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:05,480
you're sitting there making sure your wife's dinner is made

887
00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:05,960
on time.

888
00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: That that's why we have this show, man, That's why

889
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,679
we have the show. So you don't fucking get thrown

890
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,840
off track by these jokers. Like because people believe the shit,

891
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,519
people lap it up, especially young impressionable guys.

892
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: Uh what a young man like want to do? Like

893
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,800
when I was twenty two, I only really cared about

894
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,840
getting laid and getting glory and sometimes like they're that's

895
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,440
the age. Unfortunately, it's the age when a man, young

896
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,400
man starts to realize that you know, like when you're

897
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:45,800
when you're growing up, like you know, you basically take

898
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:49,400
what your parents tell you as like as a gospel, right,

899
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,760
like your dad's a superhero, or you know, somebody in

900
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,119
your family is like you know who you're idolizing, like

901
00:55:56,159 --> 00:55:58,760
you're probably related to and whatever, and like you believe

902
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,400
these people and whatever, like their way of their paradigm

903
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,639
becomes yours. Twenty two to twenty three is when you start,

904
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:11,480
you know, questioning things. It's also the same age when

905
00:56:11,519 --> 00:56:17,960
guys are really really susceptible to being led by guys

906
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,519
that they admire. And this is the thing about all

907
00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:27,480
these fagots is they're all like you know, generally the

908
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,199
ones that are face fagots, you know, try and like

909
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,760
mister I suck trans Pine Cernovich, Like he's a macho

910
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,800
man guy. Now he's gonna tell you how to be

911
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:39,440
a macho right wing guy. You should totally listen to

912
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,800
this guy. And there's three or four guys that are

913
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,079
just like this. And unfortunately the guys when time when

914
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:49,800
people are waking up and questioning things is also the

915
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,880
time when they're also most vulnerable to this shit.

916
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: No, it's true, well it's also too like I try

917
00:56:55,519 --> 00:56:59,880
to you know again, it probably sound like sound like

918
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:04,199
elitist dickhead or something, because you know, again, like most

919
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:09,559
people have no business trying to trying to understand the

920
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:13,880
politics at any deep theoretical level. But it's also like

921
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,280
I I swear to God, like half half of the

922
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,559
so called dissident right, it's like something like a lifestyle

923
00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:22,639
brand of them. You know, it's like you just it's

924
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:24,920
like it's like a way of like getting cloud on

925
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,639
social media or like representing certain things in like internet space,

926
00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:33,400
like these guys aren't. Like that's why frankly, like a

927
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,440
lot of time, I'll like I'll drop video of stuff

928
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,559
I'm doing. If eve known, I'm just like walking around

929
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,599
like doing kind of corny stuff because it's like this

930
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,400
is the shiit I do twenty more seven three sixty five,

931
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,480
and not like some guy in the Internet, like you know,

932
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:51,719
I mean some any internet who's like some like social

933
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,840
media right winger or something like what you know, Like

934
00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:00,000
that's and if you're not if you're not actually engaged,

935
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,000
that's why I gotta laugh too. And like some of

936
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,000
these goofies like they try and they try and check me.

937
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:09,119
It's like, look, man, I literally know thousands of people

938
00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:12,400
I can I can get on a bus or a

939
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:17,440
train and land in any state plus Alaska. Any I

940
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,440
don't know nobody in Hawaii yet, and I can find

941
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,079
a place to stay and like click up with friends.

942
00:58:24,119 --> 00:58:29,079
Because we're literally building like an alternative culture on like

943
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,360
real world social capital. It's like, that's what the fuck

944
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,719
I'm doing. It's like, what are you doing? You're you're

945
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:36,199
some like weirdo on social media who like doesn't even

946
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,119
know his neighbors. Like who's who's like trying to like

947
00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:42,280
push some lifestyle brand like that, Like you call like

948
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,840
right wing. I mean that because like I guess, because

949
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,360
like you tell like you tell like nigger jokes or

950
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,679
something like it's ridiculous.

951
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,239
Speaker 2: Well, these guys aren't too much of a problem now,

952
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,719
they're pretty easy to point out. But as there's like

953
00:58:57,039 --> 00:59:00,599
shifts in our direction, there is going to be room

954
00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:04,559
that these type of people are gonna carve out because

955
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,320
it's like with the guys selling boomers gold I raise,

956
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,880
there's gonna be guys that they're coming in to try

957
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,400
and get money out of these kids.

958
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: Oh no, And it's uh, that's the problem too, is

959
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,159
that as like, on the one hand, don't get me wrong,

960
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:23,079
there's I'm not gonna be something like too cool for

961
00:59:23,199 --> 00:59:27,239
school fucking jig off and and see like, oh this

962
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:32,519
is bad. That like if anything becomes mestream is bad.

963
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,440
The Overton window shift is that's for that's like a

964
00:59:35,519 --> 00:59:39,840
net like win. That's a positive. But it does mean

965
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,559
that there's gonna be like there's gonna be all kinds

966
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:46,960
of shitheads who uh you know, decide that they're gonna

967
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,199
like self identify with these kinds of politics when it's

968
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:52,880
it's just like fake fucking cloud chasing bullshit.

969
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: And so.

970
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 3: One one should double down on keeping. But like I

971
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,599
said before, one live for me, it hasn't been a problem,

972
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,079
you know, like I I don't I don't fuck with

973
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:12,320
corny people or like hobos or like ormies with fucked

974
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,920
up ideas. And I'm like singlely impressed with all the

975
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:20,400
people in my orbit, which has gotten pretty wide over

976
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,760
these past four years and some months. Man, it's not

977
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,320
it's not some kind of flex, that's true. I don't

978
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,840
mean to be abrupt, but I'm gonna it's been about

979
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,599
an hour and I got an early morning tomorrow, so

980
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:40,280
I'm gonna raise up, man, unless there's something else you

981
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,880
require when you write this minute.

982
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,559
Speaker 2: No, this message is not brought to you by the

983
01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:47,679
by the Singer Family Foundation.

984
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: Hey, so I wanted to say real quick, there's a

985
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,719
big difference between you know, a guy who just kind

986
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,800
of hears about what's going on and shows up and

987
01:01:03,039 --> 01:01:05,440
like thinks what's going on is cool, but like doesn't

988
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,159
know that doesn't know the ropes, He hasn't learned the ropes,

989
01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:10,400
he hasn't read the shit, or he hasn't been you know,

990
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,599
doesn't know the lingo or anything. That It's a big

991
01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:17,880
difference between someone like that who talks shit because he

992
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:23,239
doesn't know any better, and someone who targets a certain

993
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:30,199
sphere for infiltration in order to try to like either

994
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,840
dampen the message, take the edge off the message, or

995
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:38,440
divert it into some other, you know, goal that him

996
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,800
and his people are working towards and not what is

997
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,480
a truly you know, right wing thing. Now for me,

998
01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:47,599
call me naive. I kind of came into this because

999
01:01:47,639 --> 01:01:51,800
I'm I. I spent a long trajectory over my entire

1000
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,880
life coming into these you know, into this sphere. I

1001
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,920
always kind of had the idea that certain things were

1002
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,039
right wing, and certain things weren't, and nobody had to

1003
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:03,880
like tell me that. I just sort of that's just

1004
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,559
just how it was. Like, Actually, you know what to

1005
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:09,559
that point, let me ask a question to you guys.

1006
01:02:11,079 --> 01:02:14,519
Thomas was talking about the resistance and you know, the

1007
01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:17,199
enemy whatever whatever he said, the regime or whatever it was.

1008
01:02:17,239 --> 01:02:21,119
He said, the regime and the resistance where and he said,

1009
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:23,079
there's like no right and left and the Where do

1010
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:26,119
you two think and where do you two stand on

1011
01:02:26,159 --> 01:02:31,920
the term nationalism? Because before I consider myself right wing,

1012
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,480
I was basically a libertarian, you know, with some caveats,

1013
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,559
and I always considered like nationalism to be what right

1014
01:02:38,599 --> 01:02:43,840
wingism is. And I decided that I was on the

1015
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,840
right when I realized, like, hey, all of my fucking

1016
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:52,119
morals and ethics align with what I understand nationalism to be.

1017
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,960
So I guess I'm a right winger. So what do

1018
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,440
you guys think of that term in the context of

1019
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,239
what Thomas was saying about, like, there's no have to

1020
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:02,719
write in more? Pete said, there's no third position. I mean,

1021
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,239
do you like that term? Do you think it's a

1022
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:09,800
useful term? Would you use that term?

1023
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,639
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's a it's a useful term. I

1024
01:03:13,639 --> 01:03:21,400
think it, Yeah, it delivers a message like currently it's

1025
01:03:21,519 --> 01:03:28,719
more of a against the regime dissonant message. But I agree

1026
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:32,880
with Thomas that the way the world is going is

1027
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:40,960
too you know, separation and smaller groups, smaller communities. And

1028
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,280
it may just be one of those terms that we're

1029
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,639
using that could be could still be used and be

1030
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:57,400
useful in a way to identify yourself and you know,

1031
01:03:58,519 --> 01:04:01,360
hail yourself as you're not an enemy. But I mean,

1032
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,199
I don't think there is anything useful in it anymore

1033
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:10,239
when you consider that, it seems like especially people, a

1034
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,079
lot of the people who think like we do are

1035
01:04:14,119 --> 01:04:18,840
moving to be around other people who are like them.

1036
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:26,079
And that's a distinctly local thing, not a national thing. Yeah,

1037
01:04:26,119 --> 01:04:30,719
it's great, So you know, I you know, Hans t

1038
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:33,920
Hermanhappa talked about in a speech he did in nineteen

1039
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,800
ninety seven called what must be done like breaking into

1040
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:46,800
ten thousand Liechtensteins, And I honestly think you're going that

1041
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:53,880
that's an inevitability without the libertarian doctrine, so without the ideology.

1042
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,760
So like, yeah, I tell libertarians now, I say, oh,

1043
01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:03,239
I definitely think that decentralization as far as politics goes,

1044
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:06,679
is happening, and I think that the world is going

1045
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:08,599
to eventually look like the world you want to look.

1046
01:05:08,639 --> 01:05:10,320
But it's not going to be with it's not going

1047
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:15,079
to be with a liberty libertarian ideology in a libertarian box,

1048
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:21,280
because that's just not workable. That you can't gatekeep and

1049
01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:24,679
be a liberty be a libertarian. I mean, it's just

1050
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,280
it doesn't work. You can talk about coveting community is

1051
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,719
all you want, and you can be like, oh, well

1052
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,960
we got twenty families together that you don't believe every Well,

1053
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,559
you're going to have kids eventually, you don't know what

1054
01:05:36,599 --> 01:05:38,280
the fuck those kids are going to believe. So are

1055
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,840
you going to if your kid grows up not believing

1056
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,199
what you do? Or are you going to kick them

1057
01:05:43,199 --> 01:05:46,599
out of the community? I mean, what's going It's just

1058
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:51,840
it doesn't work. It's the way I look at it

1059
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,400
is it's less about ideology and more about order what

1060
01:05:56,519 --> 01:05:58,559
people are going to go.

1061
01:06:00,199 --> 01:06:02,039
Speaker 1: To add I'm sorry, I'm not trying to interrupt. I

1062
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:04,760
just wanted to say what you're talking about. People don't

1063
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,000
talk about that, but that's you have to talk about

1064
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:10,280
what you're saying to have any sort of realistic you know,

1065
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:15,760
outlook and make realistic decisions. Uh, for to to try

1066
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,480
to live a life that somehow resembles your ideals or

1067
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,840
somehow reflects your ideals. And you know, Stormy use the

1068
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,719
word zeitgeist. I think the word the zeitgeist is a

1069
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:31,599
very useful term is played out as it is, because

1070
01:06:32,119 --> 01:06:34,039
the answer to what you're saying, as far as I

1071
01:06:34,039 --> 01:06:37,960
could tell, is if the zeitgeist kind of moves right

1072
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,800
word or moves in a more nationalistic direction, uh, we

1073
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,039
could like take a breath of fresh air. We don't

1074
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:46,719
have to be, you know, quite so stressed out that

1075
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,039
like the country is going completely off the rails, like

1076
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:54,280
why mare republic republic level you know, degeneration and and

1077
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,119
and insanity. Uh so that's why somebody like Trump matters,

1078
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,880
you know, Stormy, I don't know if you if you

1079
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,400
want to jump in with it. Where you think about

1080
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,639
the reactionalism, I.

1081
01:07:06,599 --> 01:07:13,719
Speaker 2: Think nationalism fits historically. So when I say, like, you know, nationalism,

1082
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:22,960
up until nineteen thirty, really the end of nineteen forty,

1083
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:32,880
this country was over eighty percent Anglo Saxon descent from

1084
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,760
C to C. I mean yeah, people will be like,

1085
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,960
oh well, we took a bunch of immigrants in at

1086
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,239
this particular time, and then all we took some more.

1087
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,440
And really, you know, there's been a very fluid American identity.

1088
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:50,000
And there's some people that I really like that will

1089
01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:52,320
disagree with me on that, and that's fine, that's their right,

1090
01:07:53,519 --> 01:08:00,519
But as being somebody that's been here since sixteen twenty,

1091
01:08:00,719 --> 01:08:05,920
it is an identity. It is a nation is an

1092
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:10,400
ethnic thing. We can pretend it's not, but really that's

1093
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,760
the cultural conditioning that we've been forced to imbibe. Historically,

1094
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:24,239
a nation has always been in ethnos. So what Pete

1095
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:31,520
is talking about and my ideas of a much grander,

1096
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:37,840
less decentralized state or kind of one and the same,

1097
01:08:38,039 --> 01:08:43,680
And even though they sound contradictory, they don't really pardon me.

1098
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:47,560
So if I go back to let's say nineteen forty,

1099
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:59,960
a person in you know, Bozeman, Montana, or Twin Falls, Iowa,

1100
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:07,720
or wherever. That person when he read his newspaper, the

1101
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:12,319
newspaper was a local newspaper. When he cared about politics,

1102
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:16,960
he would vote for his senator and his congressman. But

1103
01:09:17,079 --> 01:09:20,199
the elections that everyone around him was talking about were

1104
01:09:20,199 --> 01:09:26,000
the local ones. Mayor and governor, you know, county commissioners,

1105
01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:32,439
things like that. Those people did not care about much

1106
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:36,359
anything outside of their local community, and nothing really affected

1107
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:39,800
them much from the outside of the community except for

1108
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,920
things that were important. On a nation state scale, America

1109
01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:50,319
is one giant geographic gold mine, and we all know

1110
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,560
enough about power to know that if it is split

1111
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,600
up into little bits, it won't stay that way for

1112
01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:01,800
very long because politics is a game of all and

1113
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:10,159
the same thing with ideology politics is it's an outward

1114
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:16,880
expression of inborn ideological principles. And some principles you are

1115
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:21,319
willing to kill other people for some people, some principles

1116
01:10:21,319 --> 01:10:24,640
you're willing to risk being killed yourself. For some principles,

1117
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,479
you are willing to, you know, sacrifice large aspects of

1118
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,840
your life, financial and otherwise for right. So the different

1119
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,840
things you believe in have different you know, things you're

1120
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:38,319
willing to give up or give to them. But like

1121
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:43,479
in a national scale, historically America has functioned very much

1122
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:48,680
like a bunch of decentralized little communities in how people's

1123
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,079
day to day lives were. But also at the same

1124
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:54,680
time we're able to do grandiose national scale you know,

1125
01:10:54,960 --> 01:11:03,119
political objectives like transcontinental railroads and you know, globe dominating industry.

1126
01:11:03,159 --> 01:11:04,800
We were able to do two things at once. We

1127
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,840
were able to walk end chew gum. So I don't

1128
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:13,720
think they are necessarily, you know, in opposition to each other,

1129
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:20,079
as long as they are like Pete is talking about

1130
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:30,720
bound by the same rules and the ideological presuppo is

1131
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:35,880
it like again, like politics being ideology personified?

1132
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 4: Right?

1133
01:11:38,199 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 2: How you make sure that you're basically the same type

1134
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:47,720
of social engineering regime that's been kind of put upon

1135
01:11:48,039 --> 01:11:54,800
us would have been in any other healthy nation, a

1136
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,880
very same a very similar amount of effort being put

1137
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,840
in to instill the values of a nation into its

1138
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:07,439
young people. Right, National socialism in Germany probably put as

1139
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,800
much effort as our Jewish social engineers put into us.

1140
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,840
It was just different things that they were putting into us.

1141
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,079
So personally, I believe you can both have decentralized communities

1142
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,399
that only really care much about what's going on locally

1143
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:30,039
without sacrificing a national quality when you need it, because

1144
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,880
you know, unless we convince everybody else to give up

1145
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:38,079
their nation states, we're going to have problems. What are

1146
01:12:38,079 --> 01:12:38,760
your thoughts on that side?

1147
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:43,359
Speaker 4: Yah? Yeah, well yeah, no, I mean that was the

1148
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,439
idea of the Articles of Confederation, right, You'd have a

1149
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:52,119
bunch of a bunch of colonies that considered themselves their

1150
01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:57,680
own nation, and you you also had this confederation of

1151
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:02,359
states that trade needed to be written down. You had

1152
01:13:02,359 --> 01:13:04,199
to figure out how you were going to trade with

1153
01:13:04,319 --> 01:13:07,920
each other. Also, what if you get invaded? I mean,

1154
01:13:09,319 --> 01:13:12,279
if one gets invaded, you know, it's like it's like

1155
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:15,680
and Culture said about Canada. Canada doesn't even need to

1156
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,520
have a military. We're not going to allow anything to

1157
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:23,479
happen to Canada. And so if if at that time

1158
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:28,000
North Carolina got invaded, you'd have to worry about that

1159
01:13:28,039 --> 01:13:30,000
if you were in South Carolina, or if you were

1160
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,279
in Virginia. For you, so you have to have some

1161
01:13:33,399 --> 01:13:37,399
kind of confederation, sure, But I think we're going back

1162
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,760
to more and more where people are going to identify

1163
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,680
with their local or even their their state, maybe even

1164
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:50,279
more so locally. But there's no reason why, especially a

1165
01:13:50,319 --> 01:13:53,359
country that you know, and I think I agree with Thomas.

1166
01:13:53,399 --> 01:13:56,319
It's going to take if the United States ever falls apart,

1167
01:13:56,359 --> 01:13:58,760
it's going to take probably two hundred years, one hundred

1168
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:03,000
and fifty two hundred years. But in the meantime, we

1169
01:14:03,039 --> 01:14:07,119
are going to become more local. Communities are going to

1170
01:14:07,119 --> 01:14:10,760
become much smaller, and but there is you know, one

1171
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,520
of the problems with the small community is you're run

1172
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,560
the risk of getting overrun by a bigger one. So

1173
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,800
I think, yeah, I think you're you're going to have

1174
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:25,119
a confederation of states or confederation of municipalities and it'll

1175
01:14:25,159 --> 01:14:28,560
mostly be for for trade and for defense, and uh,

1176
01:14:29,079 --> 01:14:31,880
you know, even identity like.

1177
01:14:32,319 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 2: That identity I'm confused about because technology allows us to

1178
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:42,039
have mass identity, So I don't I basically I don't

1179
01:14:42,079 --> 01:14:48,319
know how long would go about instilling domestic idea or

1180
01:14:48,399 --> 01:14:53,560
local identities into people that have the technological you know,

1181
01:14:55,279 --> 01:15:00,239
access to having niche national identity or even larger right,

1182
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:03,520
so you know what I mean. Like, it's if I'm

1183
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,720
watching some I don't know what kids do. I don't

1184
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,600
have I don't have a fucking TV, but like I

1185
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,199
know they I'm not I don't understand how TikTok you know,

1186
01:15:13,399 --> 01:15:17,079
functions whatever, But I know people are watching TikTok videos

1187
01:15:17,079 --> 01:15:19,800
of people across the country or the planet, and they

1188
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,560
begin to develop some types of affinities and stuff for them,

1189
01:15:25,119 --> 01:15:28,479
like like Carrie Lakes run for governor like two years ago,

1190
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:35,199
like I was reading, you know, almost constantly about a

1191
01:15:35,239 --> 01:15:39,600
governor's race in Arizona. Like I shouldn't give any fox

1192
01:15:40,199 --> 01:15:43,279
about a governor's race in Arizona, but now it is

1193
01:15:43,319 --> 01:15:48,560
a national political issue. Yeah, but you do have media.

1194
01:15:49,159 --> 01:15:51,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do have to care about stuff like

1195
01:15:51,079 --> 01:15:53,439
that though. I mean, Arizona's a great example because it's

1196
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,520
a border state, you know, so their policies matter. But uh,

1197
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:04,000
you know, so having Trump in office, it looks like, yeah,

1198
01:16:04,039 --> 01:16:06,800
he got Mexico. He got Mexico to send ten thousand

1199
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,279
troops to the border, and he's sending troops to the border,

1200
01:16:09,359 --> 01:16:12,119
so you know, in a way, and this is what

1201
01:16:12,119 --> 01:16:15,279
I mean about nationalism, Like he's overriding a lot of

1202
01:16:15,319 --> 01:16:17,840
the local shit with this and hopefully all of the sticks.

1203
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,960
I mean, I hope everything he's doing sticks.

1204
01:16:21,039 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 2: I can see the think about like the Russian Czars.

1205
01:16:26,399 --> 01:16:30,479
I think that is the only land mass and kingdom

1206
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:37,159
that has been that's even remotely similar to the United

1207
01:16:37,159 --> 01:16:41,600
States as far as size and resources and productive abilities.

1208
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:50,199
I only think America stays together under under executive leadership.

1209
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:56,479
Of singular leadership. I think if we I think anything

1210
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,399
else than Pete and Thomas are correct, that's going to

1211
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,520
break apart, and.

1212
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:08,319
Speaker 1: Then everything Trump and Trump and must at this looks

1213
01:17:08,359 --> 01:17:11,119
like long term stuff though, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1214
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:14,840
obviously the disclusion of America is only a matter of time,

1215
01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:17,720
but everything they're doing and just as a matter of

1216
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,920
two weeks, it's like it all looks very long term.

1217
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,319
These look like changes that are I mean, dude, I

1218
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,279
hope we need to stay on this trajectory for a while.

1219
01:17:28,279 --> 01:17:30,279
I hope this isn't like a Julian and Julian the

1220
01:17:30,319 --> 01:17:34,600
Apostate rain here, where like there's a little blip on

1221
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,760
the historical radar of someone bringing everything back to the

1222
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,640
way it should be and then it just but it's

1223
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,960
just one part of a long, slow decline. You know,

1224
01:17:45,359 --> 01:17:50,479
hopefully this is really a true reinvigoration and not like

1225
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,520
a patchwork attempt to put a band aid over this.

1226
01:17:54,239 --> 01:17:57,359
Speaker 2: Uh well, it does have a function that kind of

1227
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,399
operates in our favor. Greg And brought this up once.

1228
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,800
He's really good for like just points that you don't

1229
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,479
really think about often, and he.

1230
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: Said, American renaissance. You know, he's countercurrence, countercurrence.

1231
01:18:15,039 --> 01:18:22,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said it. Politicians are are basically just you know,

1232
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,159
worms and pleasers, right, They just want to be left

1233
01:18:25,199 --> 01:18:27,680
alone while they can, you know, do whatever terrible shit

1234
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,640
they're doing. And whenever the citizen rge gets angry about

1235
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:36,239
whatever particular thing is, they try and bribe the citizenry

1236
01:18:36,359 --> 01:18:38,800
to fuck off with whatever the thing that it is

1237
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,399
that they like. So, now that politicians have gotten a

1238
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,920
sense of how much the American public likes mass deportation,

1239
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,199
they're going to start using it as a get out

1240
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:52,439
of jail free card. Right. So, basically, the more and

1241
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:58,159
more Musk and Trump regear the state in America's best interest,

1242
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,399
doing things in the American's interest is going to be

1243
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:08,079
the mechanism that politicians used to create a little bit

1244
01:19:08,079 --> 01:19:10,720
of breathing room for whatever bad shit they're doing, because

1245
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,199
they're always going to continue to do bad shit. I'm

1246
01:19:13,239 --> 01:19:13,800
pretty sure.

1247
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's.

1248
01:19:17,239 --> 01:19:20,239
Speaker 2: I hope that's I call you a up. I think so.

1249
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,039
But like I mean, every time I call you a

1250
01:19:22,079 --> 01:19:24,479
fuck up, if the way you get out of me

1251
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,439
calling you a fuck up is deport some people, this

1252
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:28,840
is going to go on on.

1253
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:33,079
Speaker 1: A lot exactly, So I don't know.

1254
01:19:36,319 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't know how this plays out, but I know

1255
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:42,079
it's going to be efficient, and I think it's going

1256
01:19:42,119 --> 01:19:45,600
to look somewhat similar to the past because how the

1257
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,239
nation was kind of structured outside of the constitution, but

1258
01:19:48,279 --> 01:19:51,319
like the articles of a confederation or like we're an

1259
01:19:51,399 --> 01:19:55,039
organic document as in like it it's served a purpose,

1260
01:19:55,159 --> 01:19:58,960
isn't like the things organically structured themselves a certain way.

1261
01:19:59,399 --> 01:20:03,600
And it was a pragmatic document to put in to

1262
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:08,960
put on paper what was already organically happening. And I

1263
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,720
think that's a lot of how nation states work. A

1264
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,319
lot of the you know, the old stuff, the plumbing

1265
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,000
is usually there for a reason because the state organically

1266
01:20:18,039 --> 01:20:21,880
structured itself that way. You know, it's kind of like

1267
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:28,359
a slime mold. It goes wherever, you know, opportunity presents itself.

1268
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,760
But I don't know. I don't know how it is

1269
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:38,119
going to look in structure. All I care about politically

1270
01:20:39,119 --> 01:20:43,479
is how it looks as a polity. I don't care

1271
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,880
how the governance looks. I care about how the people look.

1272
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,239
I want them like fat, healthy and white.

1273
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:57,520
Speaker 4: That was that brings something up that I thought I

1274
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,680
would bring up. It was an interesting part of the

1275
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:04,359
kind of conversation that our buddy Jay Burden had in

1276
01:21:04,399 --> 01:21:11,199
an episode he released today with Ron Dodson, was.

1277
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 5: You have.

1278
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 4: Not I'm not talking about like really subversive or even

1279
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:27,479
activist blacks who are saying, you know, we're part we're

1280
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:31,119
as much heritage American because we've been here that long

1281
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,159
as long as you know most of the white people

1282
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:40,279
who are here, So what do you do with them? So, like,

1283
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,119
if you're looking at you know, we have a lot

1284
01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:44,920
of people who are like, this country can't function unless

1285
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,359
it's white and Christian and European. Again, have to kick

1286
01:21:48,359 --> 01:21:53,960
out everyone who's not white, Christian and European. When I

1287
01:21:54,039 --> 01:21:59,760
hear that, I hear a libertarian or a narco capitalist going,

1288
01:22:00,039 --> 01:22:02,079
we just got to end the state, bro, everything will

1289
01:22:02,119 --> 01:22:07,079
be great at the same like a literal impossibility where

1290
01:22:07,119 --> 01:22:10,600
you're going to get rid of the Yeah. So it's like, well,

1291
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:15,640
what do you do? How how do you handle this?

1292
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,239
Is it? You know, Thomas has always said, you know,

1293
01:22:20,079 --> 01:22:22,199
people are just going to split up. People are going

1294
01:22:22,279 --> 01:22:24,000
to Black people are going to go off and be

1295
01:22:24,079 --> 01:22:26,439
by themselves. White people are going to go go off

1296
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,960
and be by themselves. And that's what things are going

1297
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,680
to get smaller? So what do you do? What is

1298
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,039
what is the attitude? What? What is these people who

1299
01:22:37,079 --> 01:22:40,159
didn't ask to be here, who you know, who got

1300
01:22:40,199 --> 01:22:44,520
brought here? They youre sure they could leave on their own,

1301
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:49,680
But I mean a lot of them are A lot

1302
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,800
of them are thirty to forty percent white. And if

1303
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,960
they go to Africa, they've been here, their families have

1304
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,119
been here forever. They're they can't Where are they going

1305
01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:03,000
to go in Africa where they can get along? What? What?

1306
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,199
What are they? What are they? What are they in

1307
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:11,359
the in the in the context of this of this

1308
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:12,239
going forwards?

1309
01:23:13,319 --> 01:23:17,520
Speaker 2: I had them figure out I agree with both of

1310
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,840
both of you. I don't I think like the all

1311
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:26,960
white sea to shining Sea ethno state is impossible only

1312
01:23:27,039 --> 01:23:31,359
because there are certain people that are already here, like

1313
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:38,079
particularly blacks. I mean, majority of the immigration that we

1314
01:23:38,199 --> 01:23:42,920
have even intergenerationally, right, two or three generations, if we

1315
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:49,159
go back to nineteen fifty, right, so something like ninety

1316
01:23:49,159 --> 01:23:52,560
two percent of the country was white. It's really outside

1317
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:58,560
of the blacks, everybody else is new and they were

1318
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:03,880
only the timing of them arriving seems to coincide with

1319
01:24:04,279 --> 01:24:10,560
America becoming globally dominant and the epicenter of you know,

1320
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:17,439
global prosperity and ease of transportation. Right, So, even if

1321
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,239
you're here from like the sixties and you're like second

1322
01:24:19,239 --> 01:24:24,239
generation or whatever, you're new, and if America becomes a wasteland,

1323
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,560
you're going to like look at all the Mexicans that

1324
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,800
are literally protesting and burning US flags, Like, yeah, some

1325
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,600
of them, you know were born here maybe sure, okay,

1326
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:37,800
but their affinity is along a racial one exactly, But

1327
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:42,039
the governance structure in which they exist is an Anglo one.

1328
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:48,239
So like those two things aren't going to coexist. And personally,

1329
01:24:48,319 --> 01:24:51,560
I think a lot of the fantasies that people have

1330
01:24:53,039 --> 01:24:57,319
about how this shakes out are just that fantasies. It's

1331
01:24:57,359 --> 01:25:00,000
a lot the things that are actually going to work

1332
01:25:00,039 --> 01:25:03,960
are a lot more boring, all right, Like simply just

1333
01:25:04,199 --> 01:25:05,920
I mean, you could probably get rid of thirty percent

1334
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:13,319
of immigration just by banning remittances. I yet, cool, you can't,

1335
01:25:13,359 --> 01:25:16,199
you can't send money out of here. You literally thirty

1336
01:25:16,279 --> 01:25:18,039
or forty percent of these people would be gone, and

1337
01:25:18,039 --> 01:25:20,319
that'd be like, you know what, I don't know, twenty

1338
01:25:20,319 --> 01:25:23,600
five million people. I don't think we people realize the

1339
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,399
scale of the amount of people that have come in.

1340
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 4: So if we went to the one of the one

1341
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,199
of the stats that I've found out and I put

1342
01:25:32,199 --> 01:25:35,760
out there recently, is that four percent of India's GDP

1343
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:40,279
or remittances from the United States form is alone a

1344
01:25:40,319 --> 01:25:44,199
four percent zero, oh god, four no, four four four.

1345
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: That's all insane.

1346
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's insane because it's only the United States. And

1347
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,880
how many are there in South Africa? How many are

1348
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,600
there in Australia, how many? I mean, it's it's fucking nuts.

1349
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 2: If you've you angled up just the anglosphere, it would

1350
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,399
probably be at least fifteen percent of GDP.

1351
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus Crump talked about this in the first term.

1352
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,520
Does he has he talked about this recently? Because this

1353
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,159
needs this is a huge issue that needs to come up.

1354
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,560
I remember he talked about it a lot before, but

1355
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,680
I don't see that much talk about it now. But

1356
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,399
it doesn't mean it's not trying to meme.

1357
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 4: People are trying to meme into into this remittance thing

1358
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:32,199
where you have to start heavily taxing remittances. You don't

1359
01:26:32,199 --> 01:26:35,159
even have to say they you can't send it home.

1360
01:26:35,399 --> 01:26:39,560
You can't, so fifty percent tax or something like that.

1361
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,560
I mean, that'll that'll stop it too, at least on

1362
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,720
some level it will. I mean, I would love to

1363
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,760
say you can't do remittent, you can't do any remittances.

1364
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,720
But they're going to find ways around it. I mean, technology,

1365
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:54,439
you'll find a way.

1366
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I would be perfectly happy if we went

1367
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:03,399
back to nineteen fifty. I don't think you're ever going

1368
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,520
to get rid of black Americans. I don't. But also

1369
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,399
I don't think you should, like I'm not a crazy

1370
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,520
person that just hates people for no reason. I hate

1371
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,239
a few people, and I hate them for very good reason, right,

1372
01:27:17,279 --> 01:27:20,640
But it's only a few and a majority of people.

1373
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,880
I don't know. Maybe it is the inner Anglo that

1374
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:28,119
I view everything as like a garden to be tended

1375
01:27:28,239 --> 01:27:31,119
and you know, making sure everyone is okay or whatever.

1376
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:36,840
I don't know. It's a complex, but these people like, Okay,

1377
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,079
let's say all the memes are correct. Let's say they're

1378
01:27:41,079 --> 01:27:44,640
all a bunch of like sixty seventy IQ people. That's

1379
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:51,119
about the twelve year old or thirteen year old. I'm

1380
01:27:51,119 --> 01:27:53,399
not sending a bunch of twelve year old children to

1381
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,560
Africa defend for themselves. I'm sorry. If you're that person,

1382
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:01,520
you can go fuck yourself. I have to sleep with

1383
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,720
myself at night, and I'm not gonna be able to

1384
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,000
do that shipping off a bunch of people who can't

1385
01:28:06,039 --> 01:28:09,319
fend for themselves and have been living a life of

1386
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:13,560
artificial assistance for a very long time. I'm not going

1387
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,159
to kick my twelve year old child out into the street.

1388
01:28:17,119 --> 01:28:21,680
They figure it out, fuck face. You know, if you

1389
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:26,319
really are so much better than these people, then you

1390
01:28:26,359 --> 01:28:29,960
need to fucking act like it and acting like a

1391
01:28:30,079 --> 01:28:32,279
child and saying like, oh, we're going to kick them

1392
01:28:32,279 --> 01:28:35,560
all out with catapults or whatever. Like, if you really

1393
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:39,840
are the master race, you sure as fuck aren't talking

1394
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,840
like it, thinking like it, Like.

1395
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,199
Speaker 1: That's a sign of seriousness.

1396
01:28:47,079 --> 01:28:50,199
Speaker 4: The German, the German Chancellor understood that too. He saw

1397
01:28:50,239 --> 01:28:57,239
Africa as just a continent that needed to be coddled,

1398
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:01,359
needed to He didn't want to don't to Europe. But

1399
01:29:02,119 --> 01:29:06,199
you know, I think what he understood is what like

1400
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,720
And I'm not trying to compare the German Chancellor to

1401
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,800
Eric Prince, but I think Eric Prince understands that if

1402
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,479
you if you don't do something about that continent where

1403
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,119
you at least teach them how to be self sustaining.

1404
01:29:20,319 --> 01:29:22,479
They're all going to go to Europe or come here.

1405
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,119
They're all going to leave. They're going to figure out

1406
01:29:25,159 --> 01:29:27,600
a way around that fucking desert or through that desert,

1407
01:29:28,119 --> 01:29:31,159
and they are going to fucking end up here and

1408
01:29:31,159 --> 01:29:33,680
they're going to end up in Europe. So you have

1409
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:37,199
to figure out something to do. And you know, immediately

1410
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,600
the you know, the lower IQ, the lower culture people

1411
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,279
who would hear this message will be like, well, not

1412
01:29:44,359 --> 01:29:47,720
my problem. Well it's gonna fucking be your problem. I

1413
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,640
promise you it's going to be your problem. So you

1414
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,319
have to figure out a way to do it. And

1415
01:29:52,319 --> 01:29:55,000
I think that's what mister Prince has figured out, is like,

1416
01:29:55,119 --> 01:29:58,359
we have to do something about Africa because if China

1417
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:02,319
goes in there and they which they're already there, they're

1418
01:30:02,399 --> 01:30:05,319
going to fucking they'll figure out a way to unleash

1419
01:30:05,399 --> 01:30:08,720
them upon us and unleash upon Europe. On Europe.

1420
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 2: So they're probably give them the book.

1421
01:30:11,399 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they already are, and.

1422
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,119
Speaker 4: So we have to we have to figure out something

1423
01:30:16,159 --> 01:30:19,880
to do, some some way to make sure they stay

1424
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,039
there and that they want to stay there.

1425
01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't think black. I don't think Southerners hate blacks.

1426
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,800
I don't. I've spent time around that.

1427
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 4: I can tell you. I could tell you for a

1428
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:34,199
fucking fact they don't. Most don't. And it's not that

1429
01:30:34,279 --> 01:30:39,119
they've been It's not that oh they oh, the schools

1430
01:30:39,239 --> 01:30:44,079
just taught them and the that's who, that's who. Scott

1431
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:47,640
the scotch Irish just are. They're open people. They're willing

1432
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,399
to They're willing to open up their houses to people. Hm,

1433
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,000
you know, and that's just who they are. And you

1434
01:30:55,039 --> 01:30:57,399
can you can say, oh, well, that's not who I am.

1435
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:01,840
I mean you condition, something happened in your condition to

1436
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:06,079
uh to not want to I mean techonally, I don't

1437
01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:08,760
really want to live around them. I don't want them

1438
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,159
to be my neighbors, even the nicest ones I know,

1439
01:31:11,319 --> 01:31:15,000
because they'll have grandkids who come and visit from the

1440
01:31:15,039 --> 01:31:18,000
city and you know, they then that becomes a problem

1441
01:31:18,079 --> 01:31:20,039
or they come to live there or anything like that.

1442
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,079
But I don't how the fuck do you get rid

1443
01:31:23,119 --> 01:31:25,079
of them? I mean, you can, you can try to

1444
01:31:25,159 --> 01:31:27,920
pay them to leave, Yeah, but where are they where

1445
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:28,640
are they gonna.

1446
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:30,359
Speaker 1: They don't want to go.

1447
01:31:31,119 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 4: It's like, I think about it, Where the fuck do

1448
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:37,600
I go? You know, It's like if if the freaking if,

1449
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:42,079
if that freaking group of people continues to destroy this

1450
01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:44,960
country and destroy this country, Oh, where do I go

1451
01:31:45,079 --> 01:31:47,000
to escape from it? I don't have anywhere else to

1452
01:31:47,039 --> 01:31:50,199
fucking go. They've destroyed pretty much at any place I'd

1453
01:31:50,239 --> 01:31:52,119
want to go. They've already destroyed.

1454
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Yep.

1455
01:31:53,359 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 4: So they have to be fuck they have to be beaten, yep.

1456
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:57,920
They have to be put to heal.

1457
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 2: What are the what are the black people do normally?

1458
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,920
Like in the South, the most respect to the most

1459
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,680
respectful black people you ever meet are not anywhere else

1460
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,680
except for the South. The second they see you as

1461
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,640
a white guy, they immediately go back like the blood

1462
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:19,159
memory kicks in, and they are super helpful and super polite, really.

1463
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 4: Greatly, extremely polite, extremely polite in the South. Yeah, you

1464
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,640
go to the city, There's something that happens when they

1465
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,039
fucking get in the city.

1466
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,159
Speaker 2: Exactly, and they when giving a chance, they always go

1467
01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:31,840
back down South.

1468
01:32:35,199 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 4: And I'm not even talking about New York or Detroit

1469
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:42,279
or Los Angeles. I'm talking about the city that's thirty

1470
01:32:42,319 --> 01:32:46,800
minutes away from me. Attitude changes when they get into it.

1471
01:32:47,039 --> 01:32:50,560
You know, a city of thirty thousand people, it's completely

1472
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,880
different when they're in the country, different people.

1473
01:32:54,720 --> 01:33:01,399
Speaker 2: Yep. And I think we effectively governed. Okay, So, like,

1474
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,159
do we see them all being kicked out?

1475
01:33:04,239 --> 01:33:04,319
Speaker 3: No?

1476
01:33:05,399 --> 01:33:09,079
Speaker 2: Do I want them kicked out? No? Right, I want

1477
01:33:09,079 --> 01:33:12,760
them to have effective governance. I want them to be

1478
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,359
able to be the best person that they can be

1479
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,880
as God made them. Right, And the only way that

1480
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:22,640
that's going to happen is God gave my people the

1481
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:27,680
ability to make functional systems. Right, Well, we're going to

1482
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,000
give them a functional system just like we did from

1483
01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:34,560
the time of the Civil War Honors to nineteen fifty. Right,

1484
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:42,760
it was Anglo governance metered out by local I guess

1485
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:46,079
you can call them officials, but really all of the

1486
01:33:46,159 --> 01:33:48,159
law enforcement and a lot of these black communities were

1487
01:33:48,159 --> 01:33:51,399
all black. Like, if you give them the tool set,

1488
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:53,760
they're actually pretty effective at policing and beating the shit

1489
01:33:53,760 --> 01:34:00,399
out of each other. Right, personally, I see the way

1490
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:04,119
they black cops arrest black people, and it's way way

1491
01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:11,199
harder and white people arrest black people. I don't think

1492
01:34:11,199 --> 01:34:13,399
we need to reinvent the wheel we already had it

1493
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:17,840
figured out. It worked great for one hundred years. Everybody else.

1494
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:21,359
I don't think they're going to culturally fit, and I

1495
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:24,119
also think they're going to export themselves. I don't think

1496
01:34:24,119 --> 01:34:28,359
this ends in some violent Turner diaries fantasy. Black people

1497
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,600
want to live amongst themselves. They don't like the cold,

1498
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:36,840
and they work well in super small communities. And it's

1499
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,560
a good thing because they're not capable of building bigger

1500
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:44,319
ones like they are fit to purpose, right like, we

1501
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:48,319
live best in the societies that our culture has created.

1502
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:53,079
Same with them. They like thing where do they function

1503
01:34:53,119 --> 01:34:56,520
the best? Where things are small, where they know everybody,

1504
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:00,399
because a lot of their enforcement culturally is meet out

1505
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:06,520
in extended families, right like you know, discipline, you know?

1506
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:14,239
I mean Another thing is like I don't know, I

1507
01:35:14,279 --> 01:35:19,920
don't know. The Indians and Southeast Asians. They're here for

1508
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:25,520
exploitative reasons, and the second those reasons, those opportunities are

1509
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:29,640
removed from them. They both have the means and enough

1510
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:33,079
intellect to get them back to where the opportunity is

1511
01:35:33,399 --> 01:35:36,960
for them. So again, you could handle all that by legislation.

1512
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,600
But what I mean by legislation, I mean executive FIAT,

1513
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:43,560
but it can be handled politically. They're not like you know,

1514
01:35:44,159 --> 01:35:46,000
on the ground solution. So if it's just us and

1515
01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:49,000
black people, and black people live in the South and

1516
01:35:49,039 --> 01:35:51,279
they live in their own communities like they always have

1517
01:35:51,399 --> 01:35:54,560
and police those own communities, you didn't like reshape the

1518
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:59,520
world or bring in like hyper boring utopia. You just

1519
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:04,760
brought the fities back, like or the forties or the thirties,

1520
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,720
or the twenties, or the teens, or the nineteen hundreds,

1521
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,359
or the eighteen nineties or the eighteen eighties or the

1522
01:36:10,359 --> 01:36:16,079
eighteen seventies. Like this isn't hard. We've done. We figured

1523
01:36:16,079 --> 01:36:16,960
all this shit out before.

1524
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,520
Speaker 1: And you got to ask, is what Musk is doing

1525
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,359
right now with DOGE to us aid and every other things?

1526
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,359
Are they gonna eventually move on?

1527
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 2: Have to talk about all the fucking new shit right.

1528
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 1: Like are they gonna move? Are they gonna move to

1529
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,119
welfare and medicaid? There's the amount of fraud going on

1530
01:36:34,199 --> 01:36:38,359
with that. It's just fucking unspeakable. It's just unspeakable.

1531
01:36:38,399 --> 01:36:41,239
Speaker 2: If you actually gave a shit about black people when

1532
01:36:41,279 --> 01:36:44,720
were they the healthiest? Like let's say you actually did

1533
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,439
give it, give a shit and you're not some like

1534
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,000
just edge lord on the internet.

1535
01:36:49,279 --> 01:36:52,359
Speaker 1: Well right, which is again a non starter. But here, Stormy,

1536
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,680
let's just say it explicitly, like if if we're not

1537
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,640
kicking them out and they're not going anywhere on their own,

1538
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,079
we have no choice but to give a shit, So

1539
01:37:01,119 --> 01:37:03,319
we give a shit. So we just give a shit.

1540
01:37:03,319 --> 01:37:04,199
We have to admit it.

1541
01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:08,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So when were they at the happiest and healthiest.

1542
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,520
Speaker 1: Probably when they were slaves, to be honest with you,

1543
01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:14,560
I don't know if that's what you have in mind.

1544
01:37:15,159 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 2: Possibly, possibly, But in nineteen thirty, the divorce rate was

1545
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:26,920
higher in white Oh yes, black families.

1546
01:37:27,319 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, up. No, even later than nineteen thirty, yep.

1547
01:37:31,079 --> 01:37:32,680
It went into the fifties and sixties.

1548
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,279
Speaker 2: Yep, up until we started giving them free shit.

1549
01:37:37,119 --> 01:37:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, exactly.

1550
01:37:41,399 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 2: So if you actually gave a shit about them, you're

1551
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,439
asking me, like, what do you do about like food

1552
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,600
stamps and all the assistance programs that they're on and

1553
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,359
all that stuff at the same time as we're cutting

1554
01:37:49,399 --> 01:37:52,560
drastically spending. Well, if you gave a shit about black people,

1555
01:37:53,039 --> 01:37:55,920
the time when black people were the most successful, the

1556
01:37:55,960 --> 01:38:02,800
most prosperous, and the happiest, wasn't when they were slinging

1557
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:10,199
crack and wick cards. Turns out it wasn't. And segregation

1558
01:38:11,079 --> 01:38:17,800
is protectionism. Right, Segregation is no different than the tariff

1559
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:21,680
regime that Donald Trump is putting up. When we're black,

1560
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,079
business is the largest. When we're black, business is the

1561
01:38:24,079 --> 01:38:29,800
most successful. Black Black people had their own insurance companies, right,

1562
01:38:30,279 --> 01:38:37,840
their own banks and investment banks. Those all got annihilated

1563
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:43,239
instantaneously when we desegregated. Because even if you're a black

1564
01:38:43,239 --> 01:38:45,720
guy and you love your community or whatever, where are

1565
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,319
you putting your money? Are you putting it in white

1566
01:38:48,319 --> 01:38:49,560
guy bank or black guy bank?

1567
01:38:50,159 --> 01:38:50,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1568
01:38:50,399 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 1: Exactly.

1569
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 2: So segregation and protectionist economic policies nationally are the same.

1570
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:04,479
Tariffs are good for the domestic economy, just like segregation

1571
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:08,479
was good for the black economy. And it is impossible

1572
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:11,920
to try and prove otherwise. Right. The destruction of black

1573
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:18,279
businesses happened the day de segregation started. Why would you

1574
01:39:18,359 --> 01:39:22,159
make them? Why would I want my domestic steel manufactory

1575
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,760
to compete with China full of bug men slaves that

1576
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:31,399
were twenty four to seven, seven days a week. I don't,

1577
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:34,600
I don't give a shit. I gotn't give a shit

1578
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:38,199
about Bugman Steel Company. Don't care. It could be cheaper,

1579
01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:44,600
it could be, Like, I don't give a shit because politically,

1580
01:39:45,239 --> 01:39:49,319
if I'm a political leader, I'm not an economic leader.

1581
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:54,680
My job is not Like, is the is GDP? I'm

1582
01:39:54,720 --> 01:40:00,079
stealing Scott Besson's quote, all right, Like is GDP the

1583
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:08,039
the metric for human flourishing? No, it's not right, So

1584
01:40:08,199 --> 01:40:10,239
how do I maximize human flourishing?

1585
01:40:11,039 --> 01:40:11,239
Speaker 5: Well?

1586
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:18,119
Speaker 2: Turns out protectionist policies help a lot. So what we

1587
01:40:18,159 --> 01:40:21,239
are doing as a nation, we should allow them to do,

1588
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:26,560
or force them to do, because again, like they are

1589
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,560
often like children, especially when they get together, like in mass,

1590
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:36,479
Like mass psychology is always the psychology of the lowest

1591
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:41,359
common denominator. So certain things you're going to have to

1592
01:40:41,399 --> 01:40:43,840
force on them, just like certain things you're going to

1593
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:48,279
have to force on white people. All right, So yeah,

1594
01:40:48,399 --> 01:40:51,520
I think segregation again, we figured all this shit out,

1595
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,840
like it's really kind of crazy.

1596
01:40:55,199 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: Well it's a long process though. I mean I think

1597
01:41:00,279 --> 01:41:03,560
for sure that you have to fix immigration first, because

1598
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:07,239
that's a huge factor. Immigration is a huge factor. Those

1599
01:41:07,279 --> 01:41:08,119
jobs are going somewhere.

1600
01:41:08,119 --> 01:41:12,359
Speaker 2: I even hate the fucking word immigration. These people aren't immigrating.

1601
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,319
They're not immigrating, they're not immigrants. Yeah.

1602
01:41:17,359 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 4: My my family, you know, my family immigrated and became Americans.

1603
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:26,159
I mean they came here to be Americans. They didn't

1604
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:29,720
come here to make money. They came here to be Americans.

1605
01:41:30,119 --> 01:41:33,239
That's it. Yeah, my great grandfa when my great grandfather

1606
01:41:33,319 --> 01:41:36,479
came here, he went right to the coal mines and

1607
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,479
he went and found he went and found pollocks just

1608
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:42,800
like himself, and found out where they lived, and went

1609
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:47,239
right and said, what do you do that? Well, we mind, Cole. Okay,

1610
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:49,920
So now you're a part of this community and you're American.

1611
01:41:50,399 --> 01:41:55,600
And soon after, you know, he renounced his citizenship, renounced

1612
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:58,359
all loyalties to where he came from. And you know,

1613
01:41:59,199 --> 01:42:02,159
like I've been and recently, we have a whole class

1614
01:42:02,159 --> 01:42:05,479
of fucking people in this country who are dual citizens

1615
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,479
or even if they don't have citizenship to another country,

1616
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:12,920
a certain country, our greatest ally, their loyalty is there,

1617
01:42:13,159 --> 01:42:17,279
their heart is there. They will always they will always

1618
01:42:17,319 --> 01:42:20,920
identify more there than they do here. Not all of them,

1619
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:26,520
of course, because not all, and it's never all. But yeah,

1620
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:31,520
I mean we what is immigration now is all economic

1621
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:33,199
immig immigration.

1622
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,159
Speaker 2: Exactly. It is nothing. It shouldn't even be called immigration.

1623
01:42:37,279 --> 01:42:49,760
It is economic exploitation and nothing else. I think the

1624
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:53,319
terror regime will do a lot of this, the immigration

1625
01:42:53,760 --> 01:43:00,720
restriction will do a lot. Culturally. Nobody goes where they're

1626
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:05,920
not wanted, and I think that's why the State Department

1627
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:11,119
spent so much money and all the propaganda. I think

1628
01:43:11,159 --> 01:43:14,279
it was fifty percent geared to US and the other

1629
01:43:14,319 --> 01:43:16,840
fifty percent geared to convince the world that everyone in

1630
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:22,399
America will love you if you come. Because even if

1631
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,960
you could tell me like, oh, there's humongous opportunity, like

1632
01:43:26,039 --> 01:43:30,279
just mega opportunity in Russia or something like that, but

1633
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:34,359
I also know that every single Russian hates me and

1634
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,079
doesn't want me there. I'm not going to go there

1635
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,319
because I won't feel good or safe or whatever. Like,

1636
01:43:42,359 --> 01:43:44,680
nobody wants to be a place where everyone hates you.

1637
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:49,279
There's only a certain group of people that thrive on that.

1638
01:43:51,359 --> 01:43:57,000
Everyone else is normal, roughly at least in that respect.

1639
01:43:57,399 --> 01:44:03,439
Indians and Jews are the only people that are completely

1640
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:07,760
okay with going somewhere that they're hated, and only one

1641
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:13,000
of those two groups thrives on it. I don't think

1642
01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:14,520
Indians have any friends life.

1643
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 4: It's not even they don't even thrive on it as

1644
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:17,880
ster identity.

1645
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,319
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. So I don't know how to answer

1646
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:24,039
that question. I think the Blacks will figure themselves the

1647
01:44:24,079 --> 01:44:28,640
fuck out if you remove all government assistance, which also

1648
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:30,319
kind of looks pretty good if you look at the

1649
01:44:30,359 --> 01:44:32,640
government's kind of financial situation right now.

1650
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's probably it's probably only a

1651
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:39,319
matter of time, But I don't think it's top priority.

1652
01:44:39,359 --> 01:44:43,199
I think crime is top priority. But in terms of

1653
01:44:43,319 --> 01:44:48,279
like sorting out the black question, I do think. I mean,

1654
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:52,439
as far as priorities go, I think I'm seeing good

1655
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:56,000
things out of the Trump administration. Illegal immigrants. I can't believe.

1656
01:44:56,319 --> 01:44:58,560
You know, there's fucking arguments that happen about this shit,

1657
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,560
which I just blog. People just argue about anything. They

1658
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:03,560
don't care what they're talking about. They don't care what

1659
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:06,920
they're arguing about. That's why I'm so happy to see

1660
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:09,960
what I'm seeing out of Trump and Musk. Barely any

1661
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,479
of this ship is like bothering them or affecting them.

1662
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:15,680
They're doing it. They clearly had a plan, and they're

1663
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:19,800
clearly implementing that plan. And I'm hoping you to agree

1664
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:26,039
with me that, yes, the border, illegal immigration and drugs

1665
01:45:26,079 --> 01:45:29,319
coming in are the number one priority. That's the first

1666
01:45:29,319 --> 01:45:33,279
thing they're going after. The next priority is widespread waste,

1667
01:45:33,319 --> 01:45:35,840
fraud and abuse of the taxpayer money, and they're going

1668
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:44,479
after that first and very money laundering.

1669
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:49,239
Speaker 2: Every Yeah, everyone should go check out an account called

1670
01:45:49,319 --> 01:45:51,520
I think it's her name is Data Republican or something

1671
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:51,800
like that.

1672
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, yes, well that gets back to what we

1673
01:45:55,319 --> 01:46:00,079
were talking about at the beginning of the show. Dude,

1674
01:46:00,119 --> 01:46:01,560
me off with that. Yeah, exactly.

1675
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 2: The entire funding network. So a majority of all of

1676
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:11,359
this money, like we're talking like probably in total at

1677
01:46:11,399 --> 01:46:17,760
trillion dollars a year, some insane amount is going to

1678
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:21,560
all these NGOs ors are going to like USAID, Health

1679
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:24,920
and Human Services, FEMA, all these things. Not only are they,

1680
01:46:25,239 --> 01:46:29,159
you know, funneling immigrants in, but it's also it seems

1681
01:46:29,159 --> 01:46:31,560
to be that we've stumbled upon the patronage network.

1682
01:46:32,359 --> 01:46:33,359
Speaker 1: Yes that.

1683
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I use the neat little tool that she built,

1684
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:41,359
the search and map the interconnectedness of all these foundations,

1685
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,840
and it seems to be a giant global money laundering system.

1686
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:53,600
And it seems like certain organizations like FJC and AJC

1687
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:59,039
and lots of other acronyms that have the letter J

1688
01:46:59,239 --> 01:47:02,039
in them are at the center of all these.

1689
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 1: I gotta follow this person right now. I know who

1690
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:05,680
you're talking about that.

1691
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, she doesn't, she hasn't put that together yet,

1692
01:47:08,079 --> 01:47:10,159
but her tool is really useful. You just type in

1693
01:47:10,199 --> 01:47:12,159
the name of the charity or the foundation or the

1694
01:47:12,199 --> 01:47:16,159
endowment or the ein and then you click map and

1695
01:47:16,239 --> 01:47:20,119
it tells you every other foundation that they're associated with.

1696
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:24,399
And it's not just like associated. These foundations are giving

1697
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:28,399
grants to each other. Why is the charitable foundation that's

1698
01:47:28,399 --> 01:47:30,520
supposed to be giving money to charity to go be

1699
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,960
spent on charity. Why are they giving grants to another charity?

1700
01:47:34,159 --> 01:47:36,479
And why is that charity giving grants back to this

1701
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:40,560
other one that gave them money. That's fucking money laundering, is.

1702
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 4: What that is.

1703
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:42,159
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1704
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 2: Because you look at the grants that these foundations pay

1705
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:51,880
out and they're all zero, like zero zero zerolyer across

1706
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,520
the fucking board. But they're giving grants to each other

1707
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:59,680
like a motherfucker. And look, man, I'm not guys like

1708
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,079
Bill Crystal to be involved.

1709
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:04,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not pulling this side of my ass. Me

1710
01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:08,119
and Stormy, we're looking at this shit. I mentioned Manhattan Institute,

1711
01:48:08,159 --> 01:48:12,439
the president of the Manhattan Institute. You want to know

1712
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:15,399
how much this fucking guy makes. The last one, I

1713
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:17,680
don't know about the current one. The last one was

1714
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:20,000
making like six hundred thousand dollars a year.

1715
01:48:21,319 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 2: These are on two or three other of these foundations

1716
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:24,560
getting also.

1717
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all of them are exactly exactly.

1718
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:29,319
Speaker 2: Bill Crystal's on like eight.

1719
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's American Enterprise Institute and the Manhattan Institute.

1720
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,640
I mean, dude, this guy, this one fucking guy that

1721
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:42,920
everybody knows and everyone hates, everyone fucking hates him, is

1722
01:48:43,039 --> 01:48:48,479
behind political pundits that you see online who are supposedly

1723
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,279
right wing punching.

1724
01:48:50,399 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 2: This all started this, This all started when I noticed

1725
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:59,399
a certain guy telling my guys to go work at

1726
01:48:59,399 --> 01:49:00,960
a Panda fu Express.

1727
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 3: Fuck.

1728
01:49:02,039 --> 01:49:05,359
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring up James Linday. That's let's talk

1729
01:49:05,359 --> 01:49:05,760
about that.

1730
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:06,159
Speaker 2: Instead.

1731
01:49:06,279 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring up James Lenda.

1732
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 2: Set me a lot. I'm not gonna name him, but

1733
01:49:10,319 --> 01:49:12,720
if you tell my guys that you want them to

1734
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,239
go work at a Panda Express, and they should be

1735
01:49:15,279 --> 01:49:19,840
okay with competing with all of fucking Vivek Ramaswami's not immigrants,

1736
01:49:21,399 --> 01:49:26,119
economic exploiters, not immigrants. They're not fucking immigrants. Pete's family

1737
01:49:26,159 --> 01:49:30,119
was immigrants. Vik Ramaswami is not an immigrant. His parents

1738
01:49:30,119 --> 01:49:33,079
are not immigrants. You know, they're not immigrants because they

1739
01:49:33,079 --> 01:49:34,960
still haven't gotten their fucking citizenship yet.

1740
01:49:37,399 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 4: That's I think one of them, one of them has

1741
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:41,920
their citizenship, the other one doesn't.

1742
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:43,279
Speaker 2: So why for much longer?

1743
01:49:44,279 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 4: Yeah? Please?

1744
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 2: All right? For real?

1745
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 1: Well, a huge thing in that community, and I think

1746
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:57,600
this applies to Vivek specifically. Somebody was tweeting about this.

1747
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:01,479
I think it was him. They retire back to their

1748
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:05,560
home countries and live like fucking kings. They live like kings.

1749
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:08,560
I know somebody who went to India and I saw

1750
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:13,159
pictures of these sprawling estates at the foothills of the Himalaya,

1751
01:50:14,119 --> 01:50:17,039
and I was like, this is gorgeous. These are fucking amazing.

1752
01:50:17,079 --> 01:50:19,800
She's like, yeah, you know, all those houses cost like

1753
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:24,359
seventy five thousand dollars. They're mansions with multiple structures on

1754
01:50:24,399 --> 01:50:26,640
them and huge gardens and you could see the Himalays

1755
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:28,720
in the background. She's like, yeah, that's like seventy five

1756
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:32,479
thousand American dollars. And what's what these people do is

1757
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:36,279
they rack up either pensions, which is obviously federally or

1758
01:50:36,319 --> 01:50:41,319
state funded, and retirements, and then they move. They retire

1759
01:50:41,359 --> 01:50:44,279
back there at sixty five and they live like apps,

1760
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,439
like literally like kings, like they live like honest states,

1761
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,680
with like houses for their servants and shit.

1762
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 2: Them so and you only need one of them to

1763
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,680
bring in five others exactly exactly.

1764
01:50:59,319 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 1: Oh, can I just throw something out here real quick story.

1765
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:04,079
I know you're saying a thing. I just want to

1766
01:51:04,119 --> 01:51:09,119
throw something out here. I live in a predominantly white,

1767
01:51:09,319 --> 01:51:12,600
upper middle class suburb in New York, upstate New York. Right,

1768
01:51:13,279 --> 01:51:16,399
it's probably eighty ninety percent white. And anybody who is

1769
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:20,159
in my neighborhood that isn't white is Indian, right, And

1770
01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:23,319
it looks like they live like we do. They drive

1771
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:26,560
nice cars, they dress like we do. Their houses and

1772
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:29,800
lawns look the same. But something I've noticed, and I

1773
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:32,520
went online to check this, and other people say this,

1774
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:37,199
is that if you go into their houses inside, they

1775
01:51:37,239 --> 01:51:41,800
live like they're in India. Everyone in their entire extended

1776
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:48,039
family is crammed into the house, and there's kids. It

1777
01:51:48,239 --> 01:51:52,760
sounds like quaint, doesn't it. But if you extrapolate that

1778
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:55,359
out from to every Indian that you see that looks

1779
01:51:55,359 --> 01:51:59,680
like they're assimilated, go into their house, they're not assimilated.

1780
01:52:00,399 --> 01:52:03,199
They're they're just living like they lived in India inside

1781
01:52:03,199 --> 01:52:05,079
these you know, MC mansions that they live in.

1782
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, buying their time and the every and the one

1783
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,880
guy that's got a good job on his H one

1784
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,319
B program, all of those other people that live in

1785
01:52:15,359 --> 01:52:19,239
the house. And this is statistically, like, I mean, even

1786
01:52:19,359 --> 01:52:25,840
fucking yeah, but even the fucking federal Census whatever bureau

1787
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,079
figured out that like for every H one B person

1788
01:52:28,079 --> 01:52:32,439
they bring in, they bring on average five individuals with them, right,

1789
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:36,920
so extended family and four out of the five in

1790
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,399
most cases five out of the five, but you know

1791
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:43,239
it was just a four lease are all on government

1792
01:52:43,279 --> 01:52:46,880
assistance that they managed to rack up about seventy thousand

1793
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:51,520
dollars a year in government assistance, right, so they're on.

1794
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:56,640
They have classes in India to teach you how to

1795
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,199
sign up for all of the government shit, and then

1796
01:53:00,239 --> 01:53:02,760
there's other classes that teach you how to sell your

1797
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:06,359
government like wick cards and like food assistants and stuff

1798
01:53:06,399 --> 01:53:08,479
like that. And then they just send the money back

1799
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:08,960
to India.

1800
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I should mention to those classes he's talking about.

1801
01:53:13,239 --> 01:53:17,079
They're like public private, so it's not like just I

1802
01:53:17,079 --> 01:53:19,960
mean some in some cases it's a private, big private company,

1803
01:53:20,359 --> 01:53:22,680
but in other cases it's like funded by the government

1804
01:53:23,079 --> 01:53:28,520
because they their interests. Yeah, exactly, because the money comes

1805
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:29,960
back to India.

1806
01:53:30,239 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 2: Yes, now that I know, it makes up fucking five

1807
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:37,000
percent of their goddamn GDP. Man, China's not stealing five

1808
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:42,199
percent of my GDP. I don't think I'm totally cool.

1809
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:50,119
All right, So the guy, mister, mister you know General

1810
01:53:50,159 --> 01:53:50,800
Two's chicken.

1811
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:53,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get back to that. I want

1812
01:53:53,079 --> 01:53:56,359
to talk. That's what That's what the fuck I'm talking about. Luckily,

1813
01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,880
these people always end up exposing themselves, you know what

1814
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:00,319
I mean.

1815
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:05,640
Speaker 2: That's Yeah, if you're going to have an illegal immigrant

1816
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,720
wife and have a bunch of anchor babies, maybe you

1817
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:12,640
are not qualified to tell people how to think about immigration,

1818
01:54:13,399 --> 01:54:17,760
illegal immigration or otherwise. Maybe you might be biased. Maybe

1819
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:22,039
you might not be giving us good advice. Maybe you're

1820
01:54:22,119 --> 01:54:25,439
only giving people advice that's good for you. Maybe you're

1821
01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:29,720
a scumbag, right, Maybe you get your paycheck from Bill

1822
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:33,920
Crystal and you pretend to be right wing. Maybe the

1823
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:37,520
founder of you're maybe the president of your organization. Maybe

1824
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:40,199
that guy the president of the place that you work.

1825
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:45,680
Maybe he just came from this other place, right called

1826
01:54:46,039 --> 01:54:51,039
the New America Foundation. Right, maybe he's a maybe he's

1827
01:54:51,039 --> 01:54:53,920
an honored fellow at the New America Foundation. What's the

1828
01:54:54,039 --> 01:54:57,319
New American Foundation, Stormy? Well, hold on, I'll tell you.

1829
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:01,760
The New American Foundation is a far left and this

1830
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:05,640
is influence. Watch a fucking like this is this is

1831
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:11,119
them telling you? Yeah, that's a lot exactly. Yeah, yeah,

1832
01:55:11,159 --> 01:55:14,359
so they are far left think tank United States focused

1833
01:55:14,359 --> 01:55:23,520
on policy issues uh, technology, gender, gender, education, and gender

1834
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:28,000
and diversity in the economy. The think tank scholars are affiliated.

1835
01:55:28,399 --> 01:55:33,319
Commentators include former and current journalists and members of the

1836
01:55:33,359 --> 01:55:39,880
Obama administration. One of the largest funders of the New

1837
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:43,960
America Foundation is the Open Societies Foundation and Eric Schmidt,

1838
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,039
who's probably about the most evil motherfucker alive.

1839
01:55:46,439 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, who's the Open Society?

1840
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:49,119
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1841
01:55:50,199 --> 01:55:54,319
Speaker 2: Surprisingly? Surprisingly, Yeah, surprisingly, Eric Schmidt is more evil the

1842
01:55:54,359 --> 01:55:57,760
more you look at us, anyway, Really, yeah, he is,

1843
01:55:58,399 --> 01:56:02,560
he is. You have a whole The previous president's organization

1844
01:56:03,399 --> 01:56:07,239
was Hillary Clinton's deputy a Secretary of State. So how

1845
01:56:07,279 --> 01:56:10,119
come the president of this right wing institute that you

1846
01:56:10,279 --> 01:56:16,199
work at is a Soros faggot? And how are you

1847
01:56:16,279 --> 01:56:19,840
telling me that my friends need to go work and

1848
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:24,279
serve chicken and be okay with h one b visas

1849
01:56:24,399 --> 01:56:27,760
literally like taking up all their jobs and taking up

1850
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:32,079
all their spots at universities because America's top universities are

1851
01:56:32,119 --> 01:56:36,800
over sixty percent filled up, some universities seventy to eighty

1852
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:40,319
percent filled up by foreign students because they make the

1853
01:56:40,359 --> 01:56:46,119
foreign students pay full fare, all right, and the foreign

1854
01:56:46,119 --> 01:56:48,800
students have this little racket where they know to have

1855
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:53,079
a baby while they're in college here, right.

1856
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:55,039
Speaker 1: Well, look, let's just be explicit.

1857
01:56:55,119 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 2: He who runs the we're talking.

1858
01:56:57,399 --> 01:57:00,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about the Manhattan Institute. The guy he

1859
01:57:00,039 --> 01:57:05,159
he's saying, well, New America Foundation talk. Well, let's before

1860
01:57:05,159 --> 01:57:07,359
we get to him, let me just say to your

1861
01:57:07,399 --> 01:57:11,520
point that the guy that worked for the New America Foundation, who,

1862
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:14,199
by the way, just for the record, he also worked

1863
01:57:14,199 --> 01:57:19,840
for the fucking National Review, is Raihan Salon. He's the president.

1864
01:57:20,439 --> 01:57:23,119
His predecessor was making six hundred thousand dollars a year

1865
01:57:23,159 --> 01:57:26,600
from this fucking tax deductible charity organization or whatever it is.

1866
01:57:27,359 --> 01:57:29,279
So who the fuck knows how much he's making? All right?

1867
01:57:29,279 --> 01:57:32,000
So this is Chris Rufo's boss, Chris Rufos, the one

1868
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,640
who tells you to go work at Panda Express and

1869
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:38,640
lies about how much money you can make there. Now

1870
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:43,840
we'll talk about Roger Hurtog, Stormy, you brought up another

1871
01:57:44,359 --> 01:57:46,560
don't think you were talking about Roger Hurtog, but you

1872
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:50,680
brought up the Tikfa Fund once on this show. This guy,

1873
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:54,640
Roger Hurtog, who's on the board, one of the main

1874
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:59,399
board of trustees for the Manhattan Institute, is co currently

1875
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,720
working for the tik Fuk Fund. So I don't know

1876
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:04,560
if you were going to talk about Tikfire. I don't

1877
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:06,319
remember why you brought it up, but you've talked about

1878
01:58:06,359 --> 01:58:07,159
on the show before.

1879
01:58:09,479 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it isn't isn't that the tick Fork Fund? Isn't

1880
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:18,239
that the one that is. Its purpose is to make

1881
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:30,000
basically to reverse DEI yeah, because it it makes Jews

1882
01:58:30,039 --> 01:58:33,479
not they're basically lobbying to make Jews a protected group

1883
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:37,800
like like blacks or trainees or whatever, so they can

1884
01:58:38,279 --> 01:58:41,079
And there was a rabbit like literally bragging about this

1885
01:58:41,159 --> 01:58:42,760
on Twitter, which is probably not the best place to

1886
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:47,640
do that, about how this now makes every due eligible

1887
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:53,520
for tens of billions of dollars in US grants and programs.

1888
01:58:54,479 --> 01:58:58,560
So maybe you should not be on the board of

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the Manhattan Suit, or maybe if you're a.

1890
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 1: Pretend nonprofit charitable foundation quote unquote whose mission.

1891
01:59:08,039 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 2: Idea is Yeah. So he his role at the American

1892
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:15,640
Enterprise Institute, which is another Paul Singer funded So.

1893
01:59:16,239 --> 01:59:20,720
Speaker 1: American Enterprise Institute is neo kan that's Neo Khan fucking headquarters.

1894
01:59:21,319 --> 01:59:24,159
Speaker 2: All of these people are like National Review types, but

1895
01:59:24,359 --> 01:59:27,880
he is the head of there of Washington institutes Near

1896
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:32,319
East policy that basically needs Israel policy, and all of

1897
01:59:32,359 --> 01:59:35,560
these fucking guys, all of them on the resume, has

1898
01:59:36,039 --> 01:59:40,479
Near East policy, Near East policy, Near East policy. Well,

1899
01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:42,880
so who is the largest funder of the American Enterprise

1900
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:45,680
and Suit besides George Soros and his fucking friends, Well

1901
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:49,359
that's Paul Singer. Who is Paul Singer? Well, Wikipedia will

1902
01:59:49,399 --> 01:59:51,399
tell you he's a hedge fund guy. He's not really

1903
01:59:51,439 --> 01:59:53,960
a hedge fund guy, the same way that George Soros

1904
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,600
isn't a hedge fund guy, right, the same way that

1905
01:59:56,680 --> 02:00:00,119
Lex Wexner isn't a Victoria's Secret guy, the same way

1906
02:00:00,199 --> 02:00:05,159
that Steve Wynn is not a casino guy, or Miriam

1907
02:00:05,279 --> 02:00:08,399
Dlsen Miria Natelsen isn't a fucking casino lady.

1908
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:09,359
Speaker 4: Whatever.

1909
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:13,239
Speaker 2: That's not what they are. They're human shaped bank accounts.

1910
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They look like people, but what they actually are is

1911
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people shaped bank accounts that a foreign nation fills up

1912
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with money and then they tell their human bank account

1913
02:00:25,319 --> 02:00:29,479
how to spend it. So they are quite literally an

1914
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:35,279
extension of a foreign nation. So that means if you

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02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:41,800
work for a fleshy bank account for Israel, you're not

1916
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actually pushing right wing ideas at all.

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Speaker 5: You're just.

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Speaker 2: Doing what like, whether you know it or not, that's

1919
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not my job.

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Speaker 4: It's your job.

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Speaker 2: Singer, know you work for pall Singer does very much

1922
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proudly know it. And I can't prove it, but I

1923
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think he had a hand in the Butler assassination attempt.

1924
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Oh boy, but yeah, don't get me started. He was

1925
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also the guy that put that lovely Republican National Convention together,

1926
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the one that was full of women OnlyFans women and

1927
02:01:23,359 --> 02:01:26,479
Indian women, and was started with an Indian prayer that

1928
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:30,319
would make no fucking sense if Donald Trump was the nominee,

1929
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which he was de facto at that point. But Nicki Haley,

1930
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who is an Indian woman and also a very close

1931
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confidante employee of the Fleshy Bank account Paul Singer, she

1932
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spent her entire campaign as brief and humiliating as it

1933
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was both for her and the nation. She spent her

1934
02:01:57,279 --> 02:02:01,800
entire campaign saying that if Donald Trump was the nominee,

1935
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she would not be attending the Republican National Convention, which

1936
02:02:08,399 --> 02:02:16,439
is strange because three days before she suddenly changes her

1937
02:02:16,479 --> 02:02:20,800
mind and now very much is coming to the Republican

1938
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:26,760
National Convention. Well, that's odd, and it's odd that the

1939
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:31,840
whole RNC convention is trying to tell me how great

1940
02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:36,039
Indian women are. It's almost like Donald Trump wasn't supposed

1941
02:02:36,079 --> 02:02:43,079
to be there. And really, who had the most to

1942
02:02:43,159 --> 02:02:50,319
lose from Donald Trump being elected? Yeah, like Kamala Harris,

1943
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:53,600
she was drunk when it started, she'll be drunk after.

1944
02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:56,359
She doesn't give a shit. Joe Biden doesn't know what

1945
02:02:56,359 --> 02:03:01,319
planet he's on. And Barack Obama's fucking some kids some right,

1946
02:03:01,359 --> 02:03:04,199
who actually cares and who actually has a stake in

1947
02:03:04,239 --> 02:03:10,000
American politics, right, What that little handy dandy Foundation tracker

1948
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will tell you is that it seems that the people

1949
02:03:12,920 --> 02:03:16,800
that have the largest steak in American politics are these

1950
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:23,960
fleshy bank account type people. These you know, deposit boxes

1951
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:27,239
for a foreign state in Near East, and that's why

1952
02:03:27,279 --> 02:03:30,039
all of their money goes to paying for guys that

1953
02:03:30,119 --> 02:03:37,199
do Near East policy. It's amazing. So the guy who

1954
02:03:37,279 --> 02:03:44,239
is now basically getting his teeth kicked in politically, I mean,

1955
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if you're a fugitive from justice in your own country

1956
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:51,960
and the only people you know kicking the only thing

1957
02:03:52,079 --> 02:03:54,720
keeping you out of a jail cell is your political office,

1958
02:03:55,399 --> 02:03:59,640
I guess any attempt successful or not to push you

1959
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:02,760
out of that office you would view as like a

1960
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:07,640
life or death thing, huh, because for you, it is right,

1961
02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:12,279
you're like seventy. If you go to jail, you're gonna

1962
02:04:12,279 --> 02:04:14,000
spend the rest of your life there, and your son's

1963
02:04:14,039 --> 02:04:17,880
a faggot, so uh, you know, not really a lot

1964
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:21,439
of legacy there, you know, except for your son being

1965
02:04:21,479 --> 02:04:24,960
a pool boy or some shit. So it would be

1966
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really important to you to stay in office and continue

1967
02:04:28,279 --> 02:04:32,520
this war. And a guy that's coming into office that

1968
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:35,079
already hates your guts in the most powerful nation in

1969
02:04:35,119 --> 02:04:37,960
the fucking planet and would like you to stop this war.

1970
02:04:38,039 --> 02:04:39,960
This is why all the people like, oh, well, Trump

1971
02:04:40,039 --> 02:04:44,039
just authorized a billion dollars in aid military aid to Israel.

1972
02:04:45,439 --> 02:04:48,359
First off, that's authorized, and I think it's very funny

1973
02:04:48,399 --> 02:04:52,319
that it was authorized the day before, which is tomorrow,

1974
02:04:53,319 --> 02:04:55,800
right the day before him and Benjamin Netanyahu meet.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1976
02:04:57,399 --> 02:05:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's leverage, is what that is. While he authorized

1977
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:03,920
two thousand pound bombs. Yeah, he also forced a politically

1978
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:07,720
suicidal ceasefire on Israel, and every single person in Israel

1979
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:09,800
is angry about it. All you got to do is

1980
02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:12,840
just look on Twitter and they'll tell you very openly

1981
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:15,720
how angry about it they are. So how did he

1982
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:20,479
force a deal, a ceasefire deal on people that didn't

1983
02:05:20,479 --> 02:05:28,319
want to cease fire. Well, obviously there's leverage. So a

1984
02:05:28,359 --> 02:05:33,960
political ceasefire will end benjamintt Yahu's career politically it's already starting.

1985
02:05:36,319 --> 02:05:43,079
So I find the authorization kind of interesting. It's almost

1986
02:05:43,159 --> 02:05:48,439
like you plan on doing carrot and stick, because what

1987
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:51,840
good is military aid for you if I won't let

1988
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:56,199
you shoot it? It'll make your citizens feel a little safer.

1989
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:02,479
But that's about it. Please, someone take it from there.

1990
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:03,439
I've spoken too long.

1991
02:06:04,199 --> 02:06:07,279
Speaker 1: Well, it's like, look what he did with with Mexico

1992
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:13,119
and Canada. Don't want you to think he's capable of

1993
02:06:13,119 --> 02:06:16,800
doing that with Israel. But there's no reason to think otherwise.

1994
02:06:16,920 --> 02:06:19,960
Speaker 2: You should talk a little bit about how how that

1995
02:06:20,039 --> 02:06:23,920
whole piece deal happened, or that ceasfire deal happened, and that, I.

1996
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:25,479
Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, happened.

1997
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he sent What the hell is that guy's name

1998
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:31,560
forgetting it? Now?

1999
02:06:32,119 --> 02:06:34,159
Speaker 1: What's what's WIT's call or something?

2000
02:06:34,720 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 4: Cough what cough? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's he's a gangster.

2001
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:41,680
He's a Jewish gangster from New York. You know, real

2002
02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:44,199
estate magnet. If you're a real estate magnet in New York,

2003
02:06:44,239 --> 02:06:48,600
you're a gangster. And apparently he was just sent there

2004
02:06:48,680 --> 02:06:53,119
to tell him get it done. Allegedly. I don't know

2005
02:06:53,159 --> 02:06:55,239
that this is true or not. I've heard it. This

2006
02:06:55,399 --> 02:06:58,600
is lore now that he went on shabba, He went

2007
02:06:58,640 --> 02:07:02,000
on the Sabbath, and they're like, well, you know it's

2008
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:04,520
a sabbath. He's like, no, no, no, no, you're meeting

2009
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:07,079
with me right now. And he told them he said,

2010
02:07:07,239 --> 02:07:10,159
cease far. He said you're going to get the hostages back.

2011
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:13,000
And you know, one thing we know is if the

2012
02:07:13,039 --> 02:07:17,359
hostages are all released, ne Yahu's in deep ship, which

2013
02:07:17,399 --> 02:07:21,359
is why they're pivoting over to invading the West Bank

2014
02:07:21,479 --> 02:07:25,520
now and taking parts of the West Bank because he

2015
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:28,920
needs he needs some kind of distraction to keep people.

2016
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

2017
02:07:31,600 --> 02:07:35,279
Speaker 4: Two, so people don't remember how much they hate him

2018
02:07:35,279 --> 02:07:36,800
and want him to be in jail for all the

2019
02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:40,199
corruption that he's done. But yeah, he just Witcock just

2020
02:07:40,239 --> 02:07:43,760
basically went there and was like, yeah, Okay, this is

2021
02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:47,920
going to get done. Apparently I hear that Whitkoff will

2022
02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:52,399
be uh the one going to Iran too, yep to

2023
02:07:52,439 --> 02:07:59,079
talk to them, and I think, yeah, and Rubio, you know,

2024
02:07:59,159 --> 02:08:03,560
everybody was when Rubio got appointed, everybody freaked out. And

2025
02:08:03,600 --> 02:08:05,840
I'm like, I remember I got I think I got

2026
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:08,720
on the phone with Luongo and we're just talking it

2027
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:10,840
through and everything, and I'm like, well, you know, I

2028
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:13,000
think we both at the same time came to the

2029
02:08:13,119 --> 02:08:17,359
conclusion that he's going to be in Central America if

2030
02:08:17,399 --> 02:08:20,520
you're if you're going to be sending all these people,

2031
02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:23,920
deporting all these people, or trying to get all these

2032
02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:27,079
countries to take all these people back. You need someone

2033
02:08:27,119 --> 02:08:31,880
who speaks Spanish, someone who hates communism, and someone who's

2034
02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:34,079
not going to take any shit from these people. And

2035
02:08:34,119 --> 02:08:36,199
it looks like he went and got the Panama Canal

2036
02:08:36,279 --> 02:08:41,079
back today. So and last I heard he was he

2037
02:08:41,119 --> 02:08:43,319
had stopped off in El Salvador. I just saw a

2038
02:08:43,359 --> 02:08:46,119
picture a little while ago of him meeting with bou Kelly,

2039
02:08:47,119 --> 02:08:50,720
and you know they're talking. They're talking about like sending

2040
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:58,960
our worst American prisoners to jails in El Salvador, you know,

2041
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:03,279
for a small fee. So I mean.

2042
02:09:06,079 --> 02:09:10,159
Speaker 2: Us a I d now I can give that small fee.

2043
02:09:11,119 --> 02:09:16,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the I mean, this is gangster ship, and this

2044
02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:19,920
is what's needed. This is what this is what you've wanted.

2045
02:09:20,039 --> 02:09:22,439
This is the only way you're going to get change

2046
02:09:23,560 --> 02:09:25,520
out of them, the way you're going to get anything

2047
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:28,079
done in the managerial system. And the only way you're

2048
02:09:28,119 --> 02:09:31,159
going to tear down a managerial system is you have

2049
02:09:31,239 --> 02:09:33,880
to go full gangster. And you know, I mean, did

2050
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:36,600
you see the politicians were like going to the USA

2051
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:40,399
ai D offices today and they're like doing this grand

2052
02:09:40,439 --> 02:09:42,359
standing where it's like let us in, let us in.

2053
02:09:42,399 --> 02:09:46,920
We should get no no, no, I said, I said

2054
02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:51,720
openly on Twitter. They they need to follow the president's

2055
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:55,640
orders to the letter, and that means if they have

2056
02:09:55,720 --> 02:09:58,720
to stop them from entering, they do whatever they have

2057
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:01,720
to do to stop them. So that's where we're at.

2058
02:10:01,960 --> 02:10:04,840
I mean, he just just a couple hours ago. I

2059
02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:07,159
don't know if it was before we started recording or not,

2060
02:10:07,720 --> 02:10:10,600
but yeah, he did a press conference talking about, Yeah,

2061
02:10:10,640 --> 02:10:13,760
we're dismantling the Department of Education. It's going back to

2062
02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:18,800
the States. This is what Republicans been talking about doing

2063
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:21,920
for forty five years. Yeah, and what he's gonna he's

2064
02:10:21,920 --> 02:10:24,079
going to do it with an XO within with an

2065
02:10:24,079 --> 02:10:26,720
executive order on a press con at a press conference.

2066
02:10:29,119 --> 02:10:31,800
Speaker 1: Pete, Yeah, no, Pete, thanks for saying. I was going

2067
02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:35,439
to drive the point home that if you don't think

2068
02:10:35,479 --> 02:10:37,079
Trump knows what he's doing, or if you think you

2069
02:10:37,119 --> 02:10:39,800
know better than Trump, you're a fucking idiot. And you know,

2070
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:41,640
in the words of Thomas, you're not in the game.

2071
02:10:42,119 --> 02:10:46,399
So Pete pointed out, uh, witsky whitskoff whatever, Jewish guy

2072
02:10:46,399 --> 02:10:49,960
from New York, they send him to Israel. Marco Rubio,

2073
02:10:50,479 --> 02:10:53,520
anti communist Spanish speaker from Cuba, they send him to

2074
02:10:53,560 --> 02:10:58,279
South America. I mean, this is like, this seems so simple, right,

2075
02:10:58,279 --> 02:10:59,800
but it's the first time it's ever been done. I've

2076
02:10:59,800 --> 02:11:03,239
never seen this before in my life because the predecessors

2077
02:11:03,239 --> 02:11:06,199
didn't want anything to get done. They wanted things to

2078
02:11:06,239 --> 02:11:08,720
stay the same. And now shit is happening all of

2079
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:09,159
a sudden.

2080
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Speaker 4: So uh Homean and Homan, Tom Holman and who's the

2081
02:11:15,319 --> 02:11:19,199
on the border borders are is talking about. I was

2082
02:11:19,279 --> 02:11:23,239
just looking at this there he's going to arrest Governor

2083
02:11:23,359 --> 02:11:29,439
Murphy for harboring, harbor harboring and illegal Yeah, he's saying,

2084
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:34,319
uh Zar Hooman is indicated he may arrest Governor Murphy

2085
02:11:34,359 --> 02:11:38,359
for knowingly harboring an illegal an illegal immigrant. Well, I mean,

2086
02:11:38,439 --> 02:11:39,800
if this is what needs to be done, this is

2087
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:40,720
what needs to be done.

2088
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:44,479
Speaker 2: And that dumb fucking person is going to think that

2089
02:11:44,840 --> 02:11:47,960
them getting arrested for this is going to be politically

2090
02:11:47,960 --> 02:11:51,159
good for them, but they don't understand the tenant of

2091
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:55,039
the fucking polity right now, And all they're going to

2092
02:11:55,119 --> 02:11:57,199
do is spend time in jail and then realize that

2093
02:11:57,239 --> 02:11:59,680
actually nobody gives a shit and turns out everyone's happy

2094
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:00,279
you're in ail.

2095
02:12:02,399 --> 02:12:04,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, you literally took the words right out of my

2096
02:12:04,079 --> 02:12:04,640
mouth for that.

2097
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 4: Listen, I mean the word mandate. The word mandate actually

2098
02:12:13,319 --> 02:12:14,199
now means something.

2099
02:12:15,079 --> 02:12:19,239
Speaker 2: What were you talking about, the guy that just got

2100
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:21,159
appointed to n CTC.

2101
02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:28,960
Speaker 4: It's our friend. Hold on, let me pull up because

2102
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:35,600
we got some it's the I will give me one

2103
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:40,840
second night, we'll get there. The n CTC is the

2104
02:12:43,039 --> 02:12:50,159
here it is the ship. Where is it? Oh? No,

2105
02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:56,319
National Center, National counter Terrorism Center. Okay, So this is

2106
02:12:57,800 --> 02:13:08,640
Joe Joe Kent. Okay, So Kent is being being appointed

2107
02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:11,760
to be the head of this. Now, what we learned

2108
02:13:11,800 --> 02:13:16,159
from a friend of ours is that this is basically

2109
02:13:16,199 --> 02:13:21,079
and what I learned from researches is that they basically

2110
02:13:21,279 --> 02:13:26,600
plan all the counter quote unquote counter terrorism that is

2111
02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:30,159
carried out in the field. And from what we've been

2112
02:13:30,279 --> 02:13:37,399
told is that Joe was a ranger and he was

2113
02:13:37,439 --> 02:13:43,359
then CIA. His wife was also a spook that got

2114
02:13:43,439 --> 02:13:48,560
killed hours after the Pentagon ordered extra patrols in Syria

2115
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:55,600
with the intention of someone dying so they could resist

2116
02:13:55,680 --> 02:14:00,640
Trump's order to leave the country. So basically, they used

2117
02:14:00,920 --> 02:14:06,359
they used some soldiers, some you know, some spooks as bait,

2118
02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:10,279
hoping that one or two of them would get killed

2119
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:14,239
that would cause an outrage and that Trump would not

2120
02:14:14,840 --> 02:14:19,800
want to leave Syria. And the man who was just

2121
02:14:20,359 --> 02:14:29,319
a is being appointed head of this government office that

2122
02:14:30,920 --> 02:14:35,920
is responsible for the death of his wife is now

2123
02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:37,279
he's going to be in charge of it.

2124
02:14:38,479 --> 02:14:40,359
Speaker 2: So and this is the guy that was on TV

2125
02:14:40,680 --> 02:14:43,600
screaming about anybody calling for war with Iran as a

2126
02:14:43,600 --> 02:14:46,920
sick fuck. He literally like came on Fox News right

2127
02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:49,399
after Lindsey Graham came on and was like, that guy's

2128
02:14:49,399 --> 02:14:49,920
a sick fuck.

2129
02:14:53,479 --> 02:14:55,399
Speaker 4: So what mean? What does this mean?

2130
02:14:56,319 --> 02:14:59,079
Speaker 2: He wasn't just a regular CIA agent. He's not like

2131
02:14:59,119 --> 02:15:03,039
a spooky spook. He is Ground Branch, which is the

2132
02:15:03,079 --> 02:15:08,359
CIA's paramilitary organization. This guy is a spook that kills spooks.

2133
02:15:09,600 --> 02:15:11,720
Apparently from what we heard from our friend, he's pretty

2134
02:15:11,760 --> 02:15:16,760
good at it. NCTC has the statutory responsibility to conduct

2135
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:21,800
strategic operations planning for counter terrorism activities across all of

2136
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:29,960
the US government, integrating all instruments of national power, diplomatic, financial, military, intelligence,

2137
02:15:30,119 --> 02:15:34,520
homeland security, law enforcement, and anything else within and among

2138
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:40,279
these agencies. NCTC has the statutory responsibility to serve as

2139
02:15:40,319 --> 02:15:45,640
the central and shareable knowledge bank on known and suspected

2140
02:15:46,680 --> 02:15:50,880
terrorists international terrorist groups, as well as their goal, strategic capabilities,

2141
02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:58,720
and contacts and networks. Sorry. Also under the NCTC is

2142
02:15:58,800 --> 02:16:04,479
the FMIC. F MIIC serves as the primary US government

2143
02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:12,000
organization for integrating intelligence pertaining to foreign malign influence, including

2144
02:16:12,039 --> 02:16:21,239
election security. FMI is defined as subversive, undeclared, coercive, or

2145
02:16:21,279 --> 02:16:26,279
criminal activities by foreign governments, non state actors, and their

2146
02:16:26,319 --> 02:16:32,600
proxies in the United States to affect nations popular or

2147
02:16:32,639 --> 02:16:39,920
political attitudes, perceptions, behaviors, to advance that foreign nations interests

2148
02:16:42,879 --> 02:16:45,760
under a president at war with Benjamin yahoum.

2149
02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:52,120
Speaker 1: Interesting, interesting, very interesting. I didn't even fucking think of

2150
02:16:52,159 --> 02:16:53,120
that until you just said that.

2151
02:16:55,000 --> 02:17:01,959
Speaker 2: No, you know he's here, right, Yeah, yeah, he'll be

2152
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:05,479
and get mon now, I was joking that would be lovely.

2153
02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:11,520
Speaker 4: He'll be meeting with the president tomorrow. From what I understand, yep,

2154
02:17:13,159 --> 02:17:14,280
to be a fly on the wall.

2155
02:17:15,440 --> 02:17:18,559
Speaker 2: Oh god, yes. And I mean if you look at

2156
02:17:18,600 --> 02:17:21,440
how all of Trump's negotiations go down, it seems to

2157
02:17:21,479 --> 02:17:26,639
be like like Trudeau likes. Trudeau said the very same

2158
02:17:26,680 --> 02:17:30,520
thing as shine Bomb. I had a call with the

2159
02:17:30,559 --> 02:17:33,600
President and now I've decided that all of these things

2160
02:17:33,639 --> 02:17:37,920
that I'm gonna do are a good idea, and I'm

2161
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:42,399
just gonna do what he says. So yeah, I would

2162
02:17:42,479 --> 02:17:44,280
love to be a fly on the And you know

2163
02:17:44,319 --> 02:17:48,520
what's funny is that? Like, what does everybody cry about? Oh,

2164
02:17:48,639 --> 02:17:52,120
the first trip that every president does overseas or sorry,

2165
02:17:52,159 --> 02:17:54,120
the first trip every president does is to go to

2166
02:17:54,159 --> 02:17:55,959
the fucking wall. You don't see Donald Trump at the

2167
02:17:55,959 --> 02:17:59,360
wall this time? Do you? You see b be coming

2168
02:17:59,360 --> 02:18:06,680
to him? Just look at his house in Mari Lago

2169
02:18:06,719 --> 02:18:09,959
the day after he got shot at, when he sent

2170
02:18:10,559 --> 02:18:14,159
that letter out on truth Social. If you're meeting with

2171
02:18:14,239 --> 02:18:19,920
the Prime Minister of Israel tomorrow and you just got

2172
02:18:19,959 --> 02:18:25,799
shot at yesterday, it would be really odd for you

2173
02:18:26,280 --> 02:18:29,280
to put out on truth Social a copy of the

2174
02:18:29,360 --> 02:18:33,520
letter that you receive from President Mahmoud a boss who

2175
02:18:33,600 --> 02:18:37,200
is that? That's the president of Palestine. And what did

2176
02:18:37,200 --> 02:18:40,159
that letter say? All all about how much he loves

2177
02:18:40,200 --> 02:18:44,000
Donald Trump and thanks him for all these things and

2178
02:18:44,239 --> 02:18:47,079
is really happy that he didn't get assassinated. And what

2179
02:18:47,159 --> 02:18:51,040
did Donald Trump say? Basically? I think he actually used

2180
02:18:51,079 --> 02:18:52,840
the word I love you, which is funny. He's like,

2181
02:18:52,879 --> 02:18:56,440
I love you too, But whatever everybody can go back

2182
02:18:56,479 --> 02:18:59,040
and check it out, like I will make sure everything

2183
02:18:59,239 --> 02:19:02,360
will be okay, this will be fixed. And then they

2184
02:19:02,440 --> 02:19:05,040
also put in there that President Mahmouda Bass was the

2185
02:19:05,159 --> 02:19:07,479
very first person to call him and see if he

2186
02:19:07,600 --> 02:19:11,680
was okay. You know who wasn't the first person to

2187
02:19:11,719 --> 02:19:13,879
call him? You know who didn't call him at all?

2188
02:19:15,479 --> 02:19:17,799
Because pretty much by the end of a twenty four hour,

2189
02:19:17,879 --> 02:19:21,280
forty eight hour period, every fucking foreign leader had called

2190
02:19:21,319 --> 02:19:28,399
presidential candidate Donald Trump, even Mark Zuckerberg. Did you know

2191
02:19:28,440 --> 02:19:38,040
who didn't? Benjamin Ya, who didn't? But he damn sure

2192
02:19:38,120 --> 02:19:42,040
did the second time. He made like a big show

2193
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:44,280
of it, like, oh, so are you found that guy

2194
02:19:44,319 --> 02:19:46,000
in your golf course? That must have been terrible, my

2195
02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:48,159
bad or not my bad. He didn't say that part,

2196
02:19:48,600 --> 02:19:52,520
but must have been terrible. No forms of political violence

2197
02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:56,920
are acceptable whatever I mean. This would be absolute hyperpole

2198
02:19:57,040 --> 02:20:00,440
if they didn't have a pension for killing sitting US

2199
02:20:00,520 --> 02:20:02,520
presidents and or presidential candidates.

2200
02:20:03,959 --> 02:20:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, or or you know, I don't, I gotta get going.

2201
02:20:07,559 --> 02:20:09,639
It's midnight now, we've been going two and a half hours.

2202
02:20:09,639 --> 02:20:13,760
But I do want to end with this. I hope

2203
02:20:13,799 --> 02:20:14,520
it was Can.

2204
02:20:14,520 --> 02:20:17,040
Speaker 2: You think Benjamin and Yahoo and Donald Trump are friends,

2205
02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:18,280
You're an idiot.

2206
02:20:18,799 --> 02:20:21,399
Speaker 4: If you can at this point, you're you're not going

2207
02:20:21,479 --> 02:20:24,200
to make it. You're not going to make it. Listen,

2208
02:20:24,360 --> 02:20:27,360
if he does, If if Benjamin N. Yahoo goes home

2209
02:20:27,399 --> 02:20:30,840
with a billion dollars and twenty two thousand pound bombs,

2210
02:20:32,360 --> 02:20:36,079
that doesn't mean that they're that they're friends. That a

2211
02:20:36,120 --> 02:20:41,079
billion dollars and twenty two thousand pound bombs is nothing.

2212
02:20:41,639 --> 02:20:44,799
Stuff we give to Congo. Yeah, that kind of stuff

2213
02:20:44,799 --> 02:20:45,760
we give to Congo.

2214
02:20:47,799 --> 02:20:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2215
02:20:49,280 --> 02:20:53,360
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, just Marco Rubio just announced that

2216
02:20:53,399 --> 02:20:58,000
El Salvador's president bo Kelly, has agreed to accept deportees

2217
02:20:58,040 --> 02:21:01,200
from the US regardless of national as well as violent

2218
02:21:01,239 --> 02:21:04,319
criminals currently imprisoned in America.

2219
02:21:03,719 --> 02:21:09,520
Speaker 2: So violent criminals, not even not even if they're foreign immigrants.

2220
02:21:10,200 --> 02:21:13,799
Speaker 1: So Americans, yeah, yep.

2221
02:21:13,680 --> 02:21:16,719
Speaker 2: I will send your ass to someplace worse than Guantanamo.

2222
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:21,920
How about an L Salvadoran prison full of MS thirteen monsters.

2223
02:21:22,000 --> 02:21:25,000
Speaker 1: Well, look, Stormy, they just fucking solved the black problem

2224
02:21:25,000 --> 02:21:33,239
that we were just talking Aboutious, Listen, I want to

2225
02:21:33,319 --> 02:21:35,760
end it on this question to both of you guys.

2226
02:21:35,440 --> 02:21:41,600
Speaker 2: And also everyone pay attention to the sovereign wealth funds important.

2227
02:21:42,280 --> 02:21:46,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, right, right right, I hope them not to.

2228
02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:51,079
Speaker 2: Last time you were promised infrastructure, and what did you get.

2229
02:21:52,399 --> 02:21:54,360
You got an infrastructure bill that was a fuck you

2230
02:21:54,399 --> 02:21:56,719
white people here. Let me fuck you in the ass

2231
02:21:56,799 --> 02:21:58,920
as I steal four trillion dollars and give it to

2232
02:21:58,959 --> 02:22:01,559
black people and brown people and use it to invade

2233
02:22:01,559 --> 02:22:04,719
your country. That's what you got. Last time a president

2234
02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:12,760
said infrastructure bill. So now it was Biden. Is he

2235
02:22:12,799 --> 02:22:16,159
got Aflacy Reduction Act in the infrastructure bill that turned

2236
02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:17,719
out to not be an infrastructure bill was.

2237
02:22:17,680 --> 02:22:20,280
Speaker 1: Actually a Green New Deal fucking nothing? Yes?

2238
02:22:21,239 --> 02:22:30,200
Speaker 2: Yes, one. So how does Donald Trump spend trillions of

2239
02:22:30,239 --> 02:22:36,399
dollars on infrastructure when the last person to promise us

2240
02:22:36,440 --> 02:22:41,920
in infrastructure just fucked us and stole our money. Well,

2241
02:22:46,479 --> 02:22:49,719
I've heard this concept talked about, and I won't say where,

2242
02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:57,200
but what is more efficient than taxing corporations? If you

2243
02:22:57,239 --> 02:23:00,719
want corporations to move back to America. There's two reasons

2244
02:23:00,760 --> 02:23:08,399
why they're overseas. One is that manufacturing in labor is

2245
02:23:08,479 --> 02:23:13,239
cheaper overseas. That's a small portion of it, right, And

2246
02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:14,840
I know that you're probably like storming. It's not a

2247
02:23:14,840 --> 02:23:16,559
small portion of it, must be all of it. No,

2248
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:22,559
it is the tax regime, right, I am fortunate enough

2249
02:23:24,159 --> 02:23:29,360
to be in the top tax bracket. I'm unfortunate enough

2250
02:23:29,399 --> 02:23:33,639
to not have a family yet, because that makes a

2251
02:23:33,680 --> 02:23:39,520
difference in how bad the tax bracket beats the shit

2252
02:23:39,559 --> 02:23:45,360
out of you. So I pay thirty seven percent federal

2253
02:23:45,399 --> 02:23:50,559
income tax. Now you add in the six percent that

2254
02:23:50,600 --> 02:23:53,239
I pay every time I buy something, and I'm at

2255
02:23:53,280 --> 02:23:56,600
forty one, forty two, adding property tax and other bullshit

2256
02:23:56,760 --> 02:23:59,959
tax and I'm damn near fifty percent of my income

2257
02:24:00,639 --> 02:24:06,600
in the top tax bracket. So taxes, if they're shitty

2258
02:24:06,639 --> 02:24:11,399
on me, they are shitty for corporations because the corporate

2259
02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:15,840
tax bracket is very similar to like the top income

2260
02:24:15,879 --> 02:24:23,760
tax bracket whatever. So it's America's tax policies that are

2261
02:24:24,399 --> 02:24:28,360
as punitive as the labor is cheap in I don't know,

2262
02:24:28,479 --> 02:24:34,200
fucking Bangladesh, all right, Ireland has an economy because our

2263
02:24:34,239 --> 02:24:37,399
taxes are that bad. And like the reason that Google

2264
02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:42,159
and Facebook are over there, like come on, come on, guy,

2265
02:24:42,200 --> 02:24:45,079
They're not exploiting the Irish for cheap labor, so why

2266
02:24:45,120 --> 02:24:50,760
the fuck are they there? What's more efficient? Like let's

2267
02:24:50,760 --> 02:24:55,000
say I try and collect thirty percent of whatever Apple's

2268
02:24:55,000 --> 02:24:57,159
corporate earnings are, is they try and run around the

2269
02:24:57,200 --> 02:25:00,079
world to hide it from me, or what would make

2270
02:25:00,159 --> 02:25:02,680
me more money if I just owned one percent of

2271
02:25:02,719 --> 02:25:09,920
Apple stock? Well, if I had owned one percent of

2272
02:25:09,959 --> 02:25:15,840
Apple stock, I'd be getting probably close to I don't know,

2273
02:25:17,680 --> 02:25:23,680
two hundred billion dollars. And then next year I wouldn't

2274
02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:26,360
even have to ask them for money again because their

2275
02:25:26,440 --> 02:25:32,639
success actually became my success. Right. So let's say you

2276
02:25:32,680 --> 02:25:35,079
needed a bunch of Americans to start businesses because you're

2277
02:25:35,079 --> 02:25:39,159
going to have some supply shortages. But wouldn't it be

2278
02:25:39,200 --> 02:25:44,479
great that for the privilege of launching a business in

2279
02:25:44,520 --> 02:25:48,520
the world's greatest economy, the government would be your first

2280
02:25:48,559 --> 02:25:53,479
investor or one of your first investors, for just you know,

2281
02:25:53,559 --> 02:25:58,159
one or two percent of that stock. And now, the

2282
02:25:58,239 --> 02:26:01,879
performance of America's company, these which are the greatest in

2283
02:26:01,920 --> 02:26:05,319
the world. They produce more wealth than anything else in

2284
02:26:05,360 --> 02:26:14,399
the world. Their performance now fills the nation's coffers that

2285
02:26:14,479 --> 02:26:21,200
it can spend on a starting more businesses and b

2286
02:26:21,680 --> 02:26:29,399
infrastructure to be leveraged by those businesses for exponential gains.

2287
02:26:30,520 --> 02:26:37,159
Infrastructure spend is multiplicative in its return. So it's a

2288
02:26:37,200 --> 02:26:41,879
hell of a lot easier to not tax them at all, right,

2289
02:26:41,959 --> 02:26:46,000
but take a tiny little slice of their stock, And

2290
02:26:46,079 --> 02:26:50,280
this way, their success is your success. Their failure is

2291
02:26:50,319 --> 02:26:53,920
your failure, right Because Apple gives me a little bit

2292
02:26:53,959 --> 02:26:58,079
of its prosperity every year, but I don't have a

2293
02:26:58,079 --> 02:27:01,840
bunch of goons and guns to take it away from

2294
02:27:01,840 --> 02:27:03,959
them in taxes. So how am I getting a little

2295
02:27:04,040 --> 02:27:07,600
slice of that prosperity every year while I own some

2296
02:27:07,680 --> 02:27:15,680
stock and Apple's success is my success and I didn't

2297
02:27:15,719 --> 02:27:18,799
have to tax them to get it. And every year

2298
02:27:18,959 --> 02:27:25,040
that success compounds on itself. So you incentivize businesses by

2299
02:27:25,079 --> 02:27:28,520
investing in them, and in return, you take equity in them.

2300
02:27:29,680 --> 02:27:33,239
That's what a sovereign wealth fund does. And now because

2301
02:27:33,239 --> 02:27:37,879
of the prosperity of all of these companies, you have

2302
02:27:37,959 --> 02:27:40,159
all this extra cash for infrastructure and you don't have

2303
02:27:40,159 --> 02:27:41,760
to fucking tax a goddamn thing.

2304
02:27:42,879 --> 02:27:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah sounds like nationalism to me, man.

2305
02:27:48,159 --> 02:27:52,959
Speaker 2: Socialism to me, I gotta sign up seriously. Like what

2306
02:27:53,040 --> 02:27:56,680
I just talked about, and the removal of taxation and

2307
02:27:56,719 --> 02:28:00,479
the spending of infrastructure and the high tariffs of protectionism

2308
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:05,680
is Frederick List economics, Pete who use Frederick Lists and

2309
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:09,399
his economic theories to revitalize their European nation.

2310
02:28:09,360 --> 02:28:13,159
Speaker 4: State a sermon certain German chancellor.

2311
02:28:14,239 --> 02:28:18,879
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes it was. And imperial Japan, by the way,

2312
02:28:19,120 --> 02:28:23,239
So that literally Trump is doing fascist economics. It actually

2313
02:28:23,280 --> 02:28:27,280
doesn't get anymore fascist than what he is doing. And

2314
02:28:27,319 --> 02:28:30,520
nobody's fucking noticing. All of the fucking antifa faggots that

2315
02:28:30,520 --> 02:28:34,479
are out there fighting fascism don't even fucking recognize it

2316
02:28:34,520 --> 02:28:35,360
because they're stupid.

2317
02:28:36,200 --> 02:28:41,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, gentlemen, I have to unceremonously cut it off

2318
02:28:41,159 --> 02:29:02,440
because great show, Great show, Last thirty five.

2319
02:29:02,360 --> 02:29:04,879
Speaker 5: First thirty five, says one the rest part of L

2320
02:29:04,959 --> 02:29:07,280
thirty Clive, So I think all about stuff. You got

2321
02:29:07,399 --> 02:29:20,639
your Georgi down with all your wards. It up the

2322
02:29:20,760 --> 02:29:23,520
thirsty say, I'm about alive the time we'll have to

2323
02:29:23,559 --> 02:29:26,399
ship for secret part. I don't like we're all that's

2324
02:29:26,479 --> 02:29:28,920
lord or get a percent. I mean I bat twenty

2325
02:29:28,959 --> 02:29:42,200
top twenty bunch joke. I left board sift some day.

2326
02:29:42,239 --> 02:29:44,360
I know if I hadn't work take one fall that

2327
02:29:44,440 --> 02:29:47,799
from the d the war, I am dump out my

2328
02:29:47,920 --> 02:30:12,479
barn first day yet jig that jove a day, yet

2329
02:30:12,639 --> 02:30:16,719
party got the day the giant. But to say, I guess,

2330
02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:20,600
good job a day. How you work at jelf, I said,

2331
02:30:31,879 --> 02:30:34,719
I say about it that time for sad a guy's

2332
02:30:34,719 --> 02:30:39,879
per day. I think you're wiling to day you'll work

2333
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:41,200
I Jim, I said