WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.879 I'm Wednesday afternoon, nineteen minutes, but for us sixteen minutes 2 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:06.879 past the hour two o'clock, a little late today, did 3 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:09.160 a little cross talk with our guy James and also 4 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:11.039 the Brown Bear, Brian Brown. 5 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:13.279 But hello, how are you happy? Wednesday? 6 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:16.199 Halfway through that work week? You are one day closer. 7 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:16.440 To the weekend. 8 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:18.800 It is great to have you with us on this 9 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.320 hot June Wednesday afternoon here in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah. 10 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:24.440 Sunny outside, beautiful day. Good to have you along for 11 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:24.800 the ride. 12 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:26.559 Happy Draft Day. 13 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:28.839 Excited for tonight. We're gonna have great draft coverage for 14 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:32.560 you guys. I'll be anchoring our coverage. James will be producing. 15 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:35.280 We're gonna have porter at the Zions Bank Basketball Center 16 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:39.399 and Gordy Chiasa Richard Smith, who combined have about ninety 17 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.399 years of experience in the world of talent evaluation and 18 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:47.280 draft nights and professional basketball and the coaching and administration side. 19 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:49.359 We'll be live in studio, excited to catch up with 20 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:51.920 them and excited to bring the best coverage of the 21 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:54.359 draft in the market to you. A lot to do, 22 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:56.920 a lot to do, a lot of rumors surrounding what 23 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:01.039 we could see tonight one roomor surrounding the Jazz making 24 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:04.519 inquiries about a superstar player who plays for the Boston Celtics, 25 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:08.319 namely Kalen Brown. Boston has already shed a bunch of salaries, 26 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:10.439 They've already made a bunch of movement. Drew Holliday as 27 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:14.519 a Blazer, Kristaps Porzengis is a member of the Atlanta Hawks. 28 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:17.359 We'll talk about all the deals that have happened and 29 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:20.599 get to the potential movement or lack thereof, for the 30 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:23.079 Utah Jazz, who as of now have number five and 31 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:25.799 number twenty one in the first round and a couple 32 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.000 of second rounders to boot. It is a big day 33 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:30.000 for the Jazz. It is a big night for the Jazz. 34 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:33.040 It's a big night for this organization. Get a top 35 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:34.799 five pick. You just don't want to get it wrong. 36 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:37.040 A lot of people do. That's part of the deal. 37 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.400 I will go over the latest mock drafts from all 38 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:42.799 the draft experts and tell you what they're saying about 39 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:46.159 the potential for the Jazz to draft at five. So 40 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:48.280 a lot to do, busy show. That's not the only 41 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:50.760 thing going on, of course. We talked about the college 42 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:53.280 football landscape a lot yesterday, we'll get to know Ryder 43 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:56.319 Lines a little bit more. Do some Utah football, do 44 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:58.519 some BYU off season football as well. 45 00:01:58.560 --> 00:01:59.799 Sixty six days away. 46 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:02.840 From Kim in the world of college football, So busy, 47 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:07.000 busy show on this Wednesday afternoon, we are going to 48 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:10.479 start with Tim Bontemps from ESPN. I would imagine Tim 49 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:12.639 will be live at the draft, that's my best guess, 50 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.639 and he'll give us kind of a scene setter and 51 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:17.280 let us know. 52 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:17.879 What he's hearing. 53 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:19.639 We'll talk about all the deals that have gone down. 54 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:23.560 Are the Jazz really in on the Jalen Brown sweepstakes? 55 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.840 With the Celtics really move on from Jalen Brown. We'll 56 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:30.000 get into it with Tim Bontemps, Rafael Barlow from the 57 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:33.039 NBA Big Board. Once upon a time started by our 58 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:36.039 good friend Chad Ford. Shout out Chad Ford, a early 59 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:38.639 mentor of mine in the draft process. Chad was doing 60 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:41.039 at a high level for a long long time. I 61 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:43.319 believe Chad lives here now. He spent some time on 62 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:45.960 the North Shore because he's a very smart man. But 63 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:48.439 Raphael took over from Chad doing a great job front 64 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:51.599 of the program. He'll stop by today move over to 65 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:53.400 the voice of the Jazz Craig Bowler. 66 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:55.879 Jack, a good dat out bowler on the program. 67 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:58.439 We'll get a scene center from Craig what he's hearing 68 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:01.240 on the jazz side of things. Spencer, letting our buddy 69 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:03.840 from BYU TV. We'll do some college football, some college 70 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:07.199 basketball Spencer today, move into the five o'clock hour of 71 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.360 the program, and then we will say good night at 72 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:13.120 six and then make way for our draft coverage. Myself, 73 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:16.560 Richard Smith, Gordy Chiasa on a busy Wednesday show, and 74 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:19.199 it's good to have you with us. Timbon Temps, Raphael Barlow, 75 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:22.680 Craig Bowler, Jack, Spencer, Linton Me, Spence, checkets, all of you, 76 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:25.240 the great listeners, and that guy Porter Larson who is 77 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:27.639 wearing a collared shirt. You made me nervous for you 78 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:29.039 when I saw I didn't know you were going to 79 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:31.599 the ZBBC. Like, what are you doing wearing a collared shirt? 80 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:34.520 You asked, and I quote, you just come back from court. 81 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:37.360 Well that is that? 82 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:38.240 Where is that? 83 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:40.360 This the assumption? Now, well, here's the deal. 84 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:42.199 So when it comes, if you ever see me in 85 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:44.159 a suit and a tie, just know one of two 86 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.719 things has happened. I had to be a court or 87 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:48.599 I had to go to the bank, okay, or me 88 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:50.960 with a lawyer. Okay, those are the three things that 89 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.080 I'll wear a tie for. I broughte funeral's weddings. You 90 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:55.560 have a wedding yvy church. Who knows it's been them 91 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:57.080 inte there. But anyway, that's fair. 92 00:03:57.159 --> 00:03:59.360 I mean I I did have to point out that 93 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:03.479 I am still wearing slippers. So no no court today, 94 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:11.599 no appearances, no depositions, none of the like. Just doing 95 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:15.039 some draft stuff. And once I run out of clean 96 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.360 shirts with no collars, that's when I wear my collar shirts. 97 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:21.240 Okay, now fair enough, fair enough, Okay, let me ask 98 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:22.360 you before we dig into it. 99 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:24.079 I don't think I've asked you this. 100 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:26.600 I asked all of our NBA guess you watched a 101 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:29.160 lot of college basketball you started the draft. Best case 102 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:31.720 realistic scenario if the Jazz Day had five for you 103 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:32.600 is who and why? 104 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:32.959 Oh? 105 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.480 I like Trey Johnson more and more, I really do. 106 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:41.439 I know you waiver back and forth that the number 107 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:44.720 five pick Spence is an interesting one in a draft 108 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:47.439 where I think obviously there's a clear number one, but 109 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:49.720 I also think there's kind of a clear number three 110 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:54.839 two as well. I think Trey Johnson, if you stay 111 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:57.639 and just pick the number five pick, that's kind of 112 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.079 the guy that I have zeroed in on. But I 113 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.680 we also do think there's some options where he and 114 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:05.639 a few other players are available at five and the 115 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:07.680 Jazz are able to work some other things out. We 116 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:10.959 shall see in a matter of what about four hours 117 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:11.800 from right now. 118 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:14.079 Yes, indeed it's a late night for us. We're gonna 119 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:16.199 be on air live for about six hours. I'll be 120 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:18.199 ready for a nap after we're done. But our first 121 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:22.399 guest today will be Tim Bontemps from ESPN. But before 122 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:24.680 we get to timmy goodtime bond Temps. Courtesy of our 123 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:25.759 good friends at Prize Picks. 124 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:28.839 On a Wednesday afternoon, it's time now for your opening tip. 125 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:31.839 Welcome to the Drive with Spence Check its on Utah's 126 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:35.240 number one Sports Talk. Now into the studios of ESPN 127 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:37.839 seven hundred to set the scene for the show. The 128 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:39.959 opening tip of the Drive is brought to you by 129 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:44.279 Prize Picks. Use the code ESPN seven hundred and run 130 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:46.120 your game with Prize Picks. 131 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:48.839 All right, let's be very clear, it is a massive 132 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:51.879 day for the Utah Jazz Organization. It is a massive 133 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:55.199 night for the Utah Jazz Organization. You cannot get this 134 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:58.079 one wrong. It is a top five pick. And of 135 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.680 course that's just where they're at right now, and there's 136 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:02.399 a chance they could move and we'll dig in all 137 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:05.560 the scenarios the mock drafts that have been released today. 138 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:07.519 This is the up to date mock drafts from the 139 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:09.879 people that do this for a living. So our friend 140 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:12.199 Rafael Barlow, who's going to join us coming up in 141 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:15.720 just about thirty five minutes from right now, as the 142 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:19.000 Utah Jazz taking Trey Johnson out of Texas said Number 143 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:22.600 five NBC's draft has Jeremiah Fears going to the Jazz 144 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:25.839 at five. The Ringer has Conker Nipple out of Duke 145 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:28.920 going to the Jazz at five. No Ceilings has Ace 146 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:31.040 Bailey going to the Jazz at five, and then both 147 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:34.600 ESPN Jonathan Gavoni and the athletic Sambassini. 148 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:35.800 Those are the two that I read. 149 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:39.120 The most have the Jazz taking Jeremiah Fears, the point 150 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:42.480 guard out of Oklahoma. So those are the names the 151 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:44.800 experts have linked to the Utah Jazz as of now. 152 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:48.639 A far more interesting scenario that has been well, the 153 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:51.079 talks have been reported, nothing has been reported as far 154 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:53.759 as something that's im in it, something that's on the horizon. 155 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.560 So we're going to discuss two different scenarios here as 156 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.279 far as the potential the Jazz actually making a move 157 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:02.240 instead out of drafting at five or twenty one, or 158 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:04.040 the couple of second rounders they also have in their 159 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:09.800 back pocket. So obviously there are synergistic relationships between the 160 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.879 Utah Jazz front office and the Boston Celtics front office. 161 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:15.920 Danny Ainge hired Brad Stevens to coach the Celtics, and 162 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:20.040 Danny Ainge was involved in the scenario hand picking Brad 163 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.480 to be his replacement when he decided to first step 164 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:26.720 back from his full time responsibilities and then ultimately retire 165 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:30.560 from the Boston Celtics. Obviously, the retirement lasted a year 166 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.160 because he landed here, moved to Provo so he could 167 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:35.279 be with his family more, and then Ryan Smith hired 168 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:38.519 him to be the CEO of Jazz Basketball, and obviously, 169 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:41.959 Austin Inge, Danny's son, stuck around Boston and worked for 170 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.160 Brad in a high level capacity for a number of 171 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:47.279 years and now Austin is here. I'll add to the 172 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:49.839 layer that Will Hardy, the Utah Jazz head coach, was 173 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:52.000 the number one assistant coach for Emi Udoka for a 174 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:54.680 couple of years in Boston, and therefore is familiar with 175 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:57.560 the front office, familiar with Danny, familiar with Austin, and 176 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.920 also familiar with Brad Stevens, who worked for and the 177 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:03.439 players that currently play for the Boston Celtics that were 178 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:06.959 there when Will was an assistant coach, namely Jalen Brown. 179 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:10.879 All Right, so there's a scenario in play here, and 180 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:13.680 I'm not sure if this will even come close to happening. 181 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:16.600 And if Boston had not already made the moves they 182 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:19.120 had made, maybe this would be more likely. And there 183 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:21.560 is a world where this continues to remain likely. So 184 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:24.079 Brad Stevens and the Boston Celtics, over the course of 185 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:27.519 the past forty eight hours, have saved their ownership group 186 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:30.439 over two million dollars as a result of two transactions. 187 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.759 The Celtics received George Niang and a second round pick. 188 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:36.519 The Hawks received Chris STAPs Porzingis and a second round pick. 189 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:39.279 The Nets get Terrence Mann and a first round pick. 190 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:42.519 The Nets have six first round picks in the draft 191 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:45.919 tonight as they continue their rebuild. Okay, so that's one 192 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:48.759 deal they made. The other deal they made is the 193 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.840 Portland Trailblazers, who actually played well down the stretch last year, 194 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.879 are very much trying to establish this defensive culture right 195 00:08:57.519 --> 00:08:59.720 under head coach Chauncey Billips. They've got a bunch of 196 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:02.960 really good young defenders on that roster. So they grabbed 197 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.799 Drew Holliday, who was actually in Portland once upon a time. 198 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.960 They send Anthony Simons, a talented yet mercurial, kind of 199 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:12.320 confusing young player who can really fill it up, and 200 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:13.879 there's a lot to like about him, but he's not 201 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:16.799 very efficient, doesn't make great decisions, but he's a good 202 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:19.519 athlete can really score. Boston gets a couple of second 203 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:21.879 rounders there as well, and so as a result of 204 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:25.679 those two transactions, the Boston Celtics have saved over two 205 00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:29.720 hundred million dollars in luxury tax economic punitive penalties. Okay, 206 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:32.759 so they've already really established or excuse me, they've already 207 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:36.360 really accomplished what they set out to accomplish to start 208 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:39.240 this offseason. But it does bring in a question whether 209 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.080 or not. They want to go all in on a 210 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.799 reset while Jason Tatum sits next year with a torn 211 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:48.919 achilles tendon, potentially grabs some draft capital and maybe move 212 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:51.519 on from a player who they've already paid three hundred 213 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:54.480 million dollars for. And that player is Jalen Brown. So 214 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:58.600 Jalen Brown is really good. There's your analysis. 215 00:09:58.639 --> 00:09:58.679 No. 216 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:02.000 I can remember when the Jazz were discussing the Mitchell options. 217 00:10:02.440 --> 00:10:04.159 One of the things I talked about is maybe you 218 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:07.320 call Boston ask about Jalen Brown, and therefore you don't 219 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:10.639 lose your young twenty five year old superstar for nothing 220 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:13.840 or just you know, pennies on the dollar. And I'm 221 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:15.919 not saying they got pennies on the dollar for Donovan, 222 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.360 but there's a world that exists where I don't know 223 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:21.440 that they got enough for him ultimately. The example I 224 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:25.679 continue to use is both OKC and Indiana parlaying Paul 225 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:29.720 George into generational cornerstones for both those franchises that just 226 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:32.679 made the NBA Finals. One got Tyree Saliburton in a 227 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:35.080 roundabout way as a result. 228 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:36.039 Of what they received for Paul George. 229 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:37.919 The other got SGA at a bunch of picks that 230 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.639 one of them included Jalen Jalen Williams. So did the 231 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:42.360 Jazz get enough for Donovan? Of course, we're not going 232 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:44.039 to do much on that today, but Jalen was one 233 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:45.919 of the names that I looked at, like, man, maybe 234 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.480 they could grab him. He's twenty eight years old, he's 235 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.440 six seven, he's two twenty five. Danny drafted him. He 236 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:54.159 can guard multiple positions, He's a high level scorer. There's 237 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.159 some stuff in the postseason that's always been a little 238 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:59.559 bit odd. For his career, he's nineteen points, he's five boards, 239 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:02.480 he's three sis. Last year he was twenty two points, 240 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:05.360 six rebounds, five assists, shooting thirty three percent from three 241 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:08.039 forty seven percent from a floor. And at the age 242 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:10.399 of twenty eight, he's still very much in his prime. Okay, 243 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:13.159 So there have been multiple outlets over the course of 244 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:15.279 the last twenty four hours that have indicated the Jazz 245 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:17.559 and the Celtics have discussed the framework of a Jalen 246 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:18.120 Brown deal. 247 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.039 Here's the problem. If you're the. 248 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:23.840 Jazz, and if you're gonna do this, you have to 249 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:25.960 hold on to marketing, and you have to hold on 250 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.039 to Kessler, and I think you have to hold on 251 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.799 to five tonight quite frankly. And if you're Boston, if 252 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.759 you're gonna trade Jalen Brown, you're asking for a king's ransom. 253 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:37.720 But if you don't hold on to marketing, if you 254 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:39.480 don't hold on to Kessler, if you don't hold on 255 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:42.360 hold on to five, there's no point in trading for 256 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:45.519 Jalen Brown because if you just exchange marketing for Jalen 257 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:47.639 like old, Jalen's a better player, I will die on 258 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:51.080 that hill, much better player. But you know what, are 259 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:53.480 you like a thirty six thirty seven win team, and 260 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:57.559 therefore next year there's no forward traction. The other thing is, 261 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:00.279 if you trade for Jalen Brown, and if you hold 262 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:02.039 on a market in, if you hold on a Kessler, 263 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:04.120 if you hold on a five, you might as well 264 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:06.600 just call Oklahoma City and say, hey, good luck drafting 265 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:08.799 you with our pick next year that we're gonna lose 266 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:11.720 cause we're gonna be outside of the top eight, and 267 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:14.519 therefore it just goes to Okay. See how much motivation 268 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:15.600 is there from Austin age. 269 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:16.000 I don't know. 270 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:17.639 If I had to guess, I don't think the Jazz 271 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:19.159 do this deal. If I had to guess, I think 272 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:21.759 Boston's probably asking for too much. And I think the 273 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:24.039 Jazz probably make the pick tonight to five, probably make 274 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.519 the pick of twenty one, maybe even two second rounders, 275 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.080 and continue to try to shed salary with some of 276 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:29.960 their veteran pieces. 277 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:31.240 But in the name of a long game. 278 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.679 I don't think they're taking a massive step forward anytime soon. 279 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.480 But only time will tell. Oh, we got a busy show, 280 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:39.279 a lot to do, don't forget. 281 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:42.919 We'll say good night for this show at six o'clock 282 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:45.480 Mountain time, and then make way for our live NBA 283 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:49.039 draft coverage, which I will be anchoring and live in studio. 284 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:52.320 We will have Gordy Chiasa and Richard Smith combined. That's 285 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:56.759 like ninety years of NBA talent evaluation experience, So pump 286 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.679 for that and pump for this. I would imagine we're 287 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:02.120 going live to Brooklyn where we find Tim Bontems from ESPN. 288 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:04.519 Is that a fair Is that a fair assumption? Timmy? 289 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:07.320 You on the ground, I can't keep up with Gordonia. 290 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:11.799 But yeah, I'm sitting on the floor at Barclay Center 291 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.440 right now, where we'll be actually starting a few hours, 292 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:17.720 and we'll see how everything shakes out. 293 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:18.720 Okay, very nice. 294 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.960 Well, I appreciate you making time for a little old 295 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.159 Salt Lake City radio station on Draft Day. 296 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:24.360 Tim, it's very nice of you. 297 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:27.279 And I'll start with whether or not you have any 298 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:30.600 intel on all of these rumors. And it makes sense, 299 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:33.440 right there's a lot of synergies between the Boston front 300 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.960 office and the Jazz front office for obvious reasons, and 301 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:37.879 Boston appears to be motivated. 302 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:38.840 She had some salary. 303 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.120 I wouldn't trade Jalen Brown, but a lot of people 304 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:44.919 reporting that are conversations between the two for a framework 305 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.000 of a deal that would land Jalen Brown in Salt Lake. 306 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:50.799 Are you hearing anything along these lines, Tim, I mean. 307 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:52.840 There's a lot of stuff going on today. I think 308 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:56.440 we'll see what happens over the next few hours. But 309 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:59.960 I mean on the podcast, we say actions over words, 310 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:01.360 and if you look get the actions of the last 311 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:03.360 two days, the Celtics have saved about two hundred and 312 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:07.759 fifty million dollars in two trades. So given the Jason 313 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:10.440 Tatum injury, given where this team is at, you would 314 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:13.360 certainly expect them to probably be looking in a more 315 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:15.559 of a gap year situation this year. And so therefore 316 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:17.960 if they could make some moves to have a longer 317 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.840 term lens on their franchise, and maybe they'll do it. However, 318 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:22.919 I would say that if they're going to move off 319 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:25.759 from Jalen Brown or Derek White, I would expect the 320 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:29.159 price to be pretty high. In both cases, it's not 321 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:34.759 really high. So I would be surprised if a deal 322 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:38.919 gets done with Utah or anyone else. But I learned 323 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.120 in February that I will never say that I won't 324 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.080 be surprised again after Luka Danci's trade, and so I 325 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.120 will boke that in this situation and say that while 326 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:52.679 you know, usually there's a lot of talk about trades 327 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:57.000 like this and they don't happen in general, I learned 328 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.519 in February to never assume anything is impossible, and so 329 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:00.039 we'll wait. 330 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.360 See what happened for sure, And look, excuse me. Jalen 331 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:06.240 is awesome. I've always loved him. You know, he was 332 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.519 a pack twelve kid. So we saw some college ball 333 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:11.720 of his out this way. Best year probably twenty twenty two, 334 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:15.519 twenty seven point seven boards, four assists. He's a career 335 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.799 thirty five percent shooter from three, which is fine, not great, 336 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:20.559 But there's so many things he can do that are 337 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:24.000 so dynamic. But Tim, the only way this makes sense 338 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.000 for the Jazz is if they're able to hold on 339 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:30.320 to Marketing in Kessler and probably even Five. Like the 340 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:33.720 framework of a deal would be all of these expiring 341 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:37.080 veteran contracts to match the salaries Colin Sext and whatever, 342 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:40.200 and then probably a bevy of picks. But if they're 343 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:43.879 asking for Marketing and Kesler and like five, well, I 344 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:46.240 don't really see the point in bringing in Jalen So 345 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:48.840 I figure from a jazz standpoint, it only makes sense 346 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:50.559 if you can hold on to your other good players. 347 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.919 Yeah, yeah, I mean, honestly, I think it would be 348 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:57.120 I would be particularly surprised if the deal happens with 349 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.559 Utah for the reasons you just said. I don't really 350 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:02.240 see why it makes sense for Utah, and I don't 351 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:06.000 really see why it makes sense for Boston. The price 352 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:08.000 point doesn't really match up on either side. I mean, 353 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:10.200 the Jazz have this top eight protected pick this year, 354 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:13.600 I don't expect them to be very good. I would 355 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:16.159 think you maybe ramp it up in a year after 356 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:21.159 that Spires, and like you said, I just at the 357 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:25.519 price point, it's difficult to see how it gets to 358 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:27.399 a place where it makes sense for both sides to 359 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:29.519 do a deal. Does it mean it's impossible, doesn't mean 360 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:36.080 it won't happen, But intellectually it's hard to see where 361 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.559 a trade ultimately would make sense for both sides. Or 362 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:40.960 you walk away from it saying yeah, I get why 363 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:42.879 both teams are doing it, both for now and in 364 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:46.519 the future. So bright, Like I said before, we'll see 365 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:49.519 what happens. I'm not ruling anything out anymore in the NBA, 366 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:53.279 but you know, this time of year, a lot of 367 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:55.879 things are said, not a lot of things. I mean 368 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:57.559 a lot of things happen, but a lot more things 369 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:01.840 are said that do happen ultimately, and I suspect that 370 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:04.559 will probably be the case on this month. 371 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:06.440 The other rumor that's been out there. 372 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.759 And you know, in today's day and age, I get 373 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:12.759 aggregated every day. I know somebody like you, it's that 374 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:16.880 times ten. So I always have a hard time understanding 375 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:20.279 who exactly is reputable, who out there is aggregating what 376 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:23.160 is actually real. And I don't know if San Antonio 377 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:26.680 would move off of two. It feels like, you know, 378 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.359 with what Oklahoma City has shown you, the term redundancy 379 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:31.000 might need to be thrown out the window. Just get 380 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.119 a bunch of dudes between six four and six' eight 381 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:36.519 that are, awesome and whether That's Stefan castle And Dylan 382 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:39.480 harper and you're throwing A Darren, fox maybe there's not the. 383 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:42.279 Redundancy maybe we figured there would be once upon a. 384 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:44.559 Time but you, know if San antonio is willing to 385 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:46.200 move off of, two when The jazz have done their 386 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.799 calculation like everybody, else that they Think dylan can be 387 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:53.000 a franchise, piece something like a marketing and five in 388 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:55.559 exchange for like A Harrison barnes Of Keldon johnson and 389 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:59.000 two seems to make more sense because then you can 390 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:01.720 actually back up the Austin age assertion that we are 391 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:04.200 not going to manipulate minutes to tank and just play 392 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:06.480 young kids and not be very. Good and Maybe dylan's 393 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.400 kind of a cornerstone you've been after the entire. Time 394 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:14.440 any thoughts on that potential. Scenario, YEAH i mean. 395 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:20.079 That's a very fun trade machine. Trade uh you, KNOW 396 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:22.079 i WOULD i would put it in the same bucket 397 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:25.279 as what we just talked. About AND i would also, 398 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:27.319 say like we talked about the last, TIME i was 399 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:31.720 on the idea that you're not gonna quote unquote, Tank 400 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:35.359 you're not going to quot unquote manipulate. Minutes there's still 401 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:37.680 a lot of ways to be bad even if you're 402 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.799 even if you're not quote unquote manipulating minutes or quote unquote. Tanking, Right, 403 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:44.400 like we just saw The Portland Trail places trade For Drew. 404 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:47.000 HOLLIDAY i don't particularly understand why they did, so but 405 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:50.440 like they're trying to win. Games The Phoenix suns are 406 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:52.799 also not very. Good they're gonna be active this week 407 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:54.839 trying to trade for a bunch of players to get. 408 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:57.359 Better now they're gonna be trying to win. Games The 409 00:18:57.480 --> 00:18:59.960 Doors felcans just trade For Jordan. Poole that's a move 410 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:01.000 that they made to try to win. 411 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:01.400 Games. 412 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:04.039 Right those might be the, twelve thirteenth and fourteenth best 413 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.359 teams in The west this. Year so if you're The, 414 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.039 jazz Like i'm, like, look if The jazz Get Doing, 415 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:14.160 HARPER i would, say Get Dylan. ARPER i suspect they 416 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:17.680 can't Get Dylan, arper BUT i would also just say in, 417 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:21.720 GENERAL i don't really see a lot of worlds where 418 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:23.480 The jazz are good next, year no matter what they, 419 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:25.039 say they're going to try to do or not. Do 420 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:28.599 AND i think that's part of, why to, me you're 421 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:31.960 at least a year away from really trying to go 422 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:34.480 in the other direction in terms of trying to push, 423 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:38.240 forward simply because The west is an absolute bear on 424 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:41.480 a nightly, basis and the Jazz is have an awful 425 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:43.440 lot of work to do to even get to or 426 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:45.839 some of these other. Teams AND i. 427 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:46.640 Tend to agree with. 428 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:48.759 You and you know you've been coming on the show 429 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:50.799 for almost six, Years, tim so by now you should 430 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:52.920 know THAT i really am a good TIME nba trade 431 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:54.079 machine type of talk show. 432 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:54.920 Host do you understand? 433 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:55.000 That? 434 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:58.119 Right, hey, listen. Listen that is the whole. POINT i 435 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:01.039 would say that to be, facetious that's the whole point of, today, 436 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:04.440 Right like this is a fun if you're AN nba, 437 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:07.359 Fan like today is a fun, day, RIGHT i mean 438 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:08.960 for me it feels like gay made at THE Nba 439 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:12.759 finals because it's been a long. Month but but, yeah, 440 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:15.200 look this is a fun. Day and then on a 441 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:17.720 on a day like, this when there's a lot of 442 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:19.599 stuff in the air and there's a lot of teams 443 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:22.279 that are actively trying to make, moves and, frankly there's 444 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:24.279 a lot of teams that aren't going to be able 445 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:26.359 to do a lot of stuff past today because there's 446 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:28.039 not a lot of gap space this. Summer there's not 447 00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:30.400 a lot of interesting free agents this. Summer like this 448 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:32.960 could easily be the most consequential day of the. Summer 449 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:36.240 and so because of, that like there's a lot of 450 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.720 stuff floating, around there's a lot of there's a lot 451 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:40.759 of things that are in. Play you, know The nets 452 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:44.119 have five first round, picks, right they got fifteen or 453 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:46.720 seventy percent of the draft on themselves, today what are 454 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:49.359 they going to? Do you, know there's a lot of intrigue 455 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:52.079 in the top. Ten nobody's really Certainly utah is gonna. 456 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:55.559 Do you, know it's it's it's gonna BE i, think 457 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:59.160 a really interesting and fun. Night and it is the 458 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:00.880 night where if you're a fan of the, jazz like 459 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:03.519 you should be sitting there, thinking, hey like maybe this 460 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:06.000 could happen or maybe that could. Happen like that's sort 461 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:07.519 of the whole point of, it and it'll be very 462 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:10.960 interesting On austin's first time running a draft, room even 463 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:13.079 though he's been in a draft room many, times to 464 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:16.160 see what he decides to do and where The jazz 465 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:16.559 decide to. 466 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:18.000 Go let me ask you about that. 467 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:20.119 DYNAMIC i do want to get to some other things 468 00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:22.799 from a macro, Perspective i've already buried the. Lead we 469 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:24.720 actually do have a team that was just historic and 470 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:27.640 won the, championship And Kevin durant A, rockett and we'll 471 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:30.039 get to some of those things just a, moment but you, 472 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:32.119 know it really. Is And i've had a bunch of 473 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:34.720 guests talk about, this including the two gentlemen that will 474 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.839 be by my side tonight With smittie And. Gordy IT'S 475 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:40.680 i don't know That i'll use the term, unprecedented but 476 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:44.440 it's pretty rare, that just a couple of weeks before 477 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:48.279 potentially one of the biggest decisions this organization has had 478 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:50.240 to make in a long, time in a very paramount, 479 00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:54.039 offseason you bring in an entirely new decision maker and 480 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:56.440 tell a staff that it's been reporting to other, people 481 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:59.000 like all of your work is now kind of at 482 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:00.240 the fingertips of your new. 483 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:01.440 Boss who is this gentleman? 484 00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:04.440 Here As austin walks into the, room what sort of 485 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:06.640 dynamic do you think that brings In ryan was very. 486 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:09.039 Clear Ryan smith was very, clear this is his show, 487 00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:12.480 now and there's a staff of scouts and talent evaluators 488 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:15.279 that have been working hard for years reporting to other 489 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:16.279 people that now have a new. 490 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:18.000 Boss what sort of dynamic do you think that. 491 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:23.079 MAKES i, mean, look obviously it'll be, different BUT i 492 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:24.599 don't think it's going to be that big of a. 493 00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:27.440 DEAL i, Mean i've gotten to Know austin over the. 494 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:30.039 Years he's a really good. GUY i think he and 495 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.000 Usin vannik and obviously you know his father is. There 496 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:36.480 Will hardy is a great. Guy, like that's a very 497 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:39.960 good group of. People they all have experienced with each 498 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:43.359 other and around each. OTHER i think that the synergy 499 00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:47.519 of that will all be. Fine and look Like austin 500 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:50.440 has been studying this stuff for years, too, Right it's 501 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:55.759 not like he's coming from The New England. Patriots SO i, think, 502 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:57.799 like obviously it's different if you have a new, Boss 503 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:02.359 BUT i think in, general, LIKE i think the general 504 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:04.920 themes are probably going to be fairly similar to. 505 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:05.240 Before. 506 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:07.880 Now look if they go trade For Jalen, brown but, 507 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:11.240 yeah then obviously that's a way different paths than the 508 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:12.599 one The jazz have been on the last couple of. 509 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:16.480 Years BUT i think that the synergy of all those 510 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:19.039 guys together will be. Fine and like we talked about 511 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:20.759 the last TIME i was, ON i think The jazz 512 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:24.960 are in a really good a really good position across 513 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:28.880 the board. Organizationally now the question is how do you 514 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:31.240 get the talent level to match the rest of, it 515 00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:33.960 and that you, know in a small market in this 516 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:37.400 new era of THE nba where it's very difficult to 517 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:41.039 have success in the draft in terms of jumping up 518 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:43.119 to get A Cooper flag or to get A Dylan, harper, 519 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:44.480 right you need a lot of luck to do. That 520 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:47.799 we saw the four worst record teams all slide down 521 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:53.720 four five worst in this year's, lottery so you, know 522 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:57.480 like it's it's it's it's going to be a. Challenge 523 00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:01.559 BUT i think The jazz are well position to be 524 00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:04.119 able to turn things around with the people they. Have 525 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:07.440 and you, KNOW i Think austin was you, know is a, 526 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:08.960 guy LIKE i, said EITHER i have not a long. 527 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:11.039 TIME i think he deserves an opportunity like, this AND 528 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:13.680 i think the synergy there with all those guys together 529 00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:17.000 should be should be pretty good and it should lead 530 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:20.079 to WHAT i hope is a good situation for The 531 00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:22.480 Jazz forer quite a while to, come all. 532 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:24.359 Right so over the draft and then we'll end with 533 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:26.960 the okc stuff and your thoughts On durant and who 534 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:29.640 in The west can actually Make Oklahoma city uncomfortable with 535 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:31.799 anybody for the next couple of years as they'll continue 536 00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:34.680 to stay. TOGETHER i want The Tim bontemp's take on 537 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:37.119 The Ace bailey. Story WHO i was actually looking this 538 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:39.240 up yesterday BECAUSE i had A tv hit last night 539 00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:45.400 to preview the draft. Tonight six months, Ago Cavoni thesini 540 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:50.119 From The. ATHLETIC a lot of the draft experts Had flag. 541 00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:52.799 At, one and then it Was harper Or bailey a. 542 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:55.599 Two now that tide shifted about three months ago when 543 00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:58.279 it clearly Became dilling it, Too but up until a 544 00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:00.240 few weeks, ago it was Staunchly ace at. 545 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.440 Three so we know the deal he. NOW i want 546 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:04.400 to be. Careful ace is. 547 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:07.680 Eighteen his agent is someone Named Omar, cooper Who i've 548 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:08.640 read is somewhat new with. 549 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:10.160 This this is. 550 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:13.799 Not a reflection Of ace's decision, making but he continues 551 00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:15.839 to tap out of, workouts and we could debate whether 552 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:17.440 or not these individual workouts mean. 553 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:19.440 Anything but typically tim in the. 554 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:21.119 Past if you're going to cancel all these, workouts you 555 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:24.400 have a, promise and maybe you. Do but he Canceled 556 00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:27.200 philly at, three and he doesn't have a promise of 557 00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:29.799 one or. TWO i wouldn't imagine he. Does maybe tonight 558 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:31.240 will shock us. All but what do you make of 559 00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:33.240 how This Ace bailey story is unfolded and what do 560 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:34.039 you think it means for him? 561 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:37.559 TONIGHT i, MEAN i think we'll see what happens over 562 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:40.039 the next few. Hours BUT i suspect that they have 563 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:45.279 a destination in, mind and you, KNOW i, think you, 564 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:47.160 KNOW i think if they get where they want to 565 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.799 go and they feel good about, it then you, know 566 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:51.799 it wouldn't be the first time that we've seen this 567 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:54.519 kind of thing, happen you. KNOW i mean, Famously Kobe 568 00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:58.960 bryant Got john cal part and not take him with 569 00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:01.720 The New Jersey nets twenty thirty years, ago and he 570 00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:04.960 ended up with The. Lakers you, know we've seen a 571 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.240 lot of instances in the past where, uh you, know 572 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.799 Like Jalen, WILLIAMS i think shut. Down you, know you 573 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:13.599 mentioned the thunder went in the. Title i'm pretty Sure 574 00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:16.440 Jalen williams is The thunder shut, down his workouts are 575 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:19.640 after the combine and ended up going to The thunder at. Twelve, 576 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:24.200 like this isn't A this isn't really a new. Phenomenon, 577 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.920 obviously there's a lot of intrigue about it because of 578 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:31.799 Where ace is sitting in the, Draft but you, KNOW 579 00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:33.640 i don't Think ace has falling out of the top. 580 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:35.799 TEN i don't think it's falling out of the top 581 00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:40.480 six to seven. Personally and you, know, look this is 582 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:42.880 one of those things where if he ends, up LIKE i, 583 00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:44.799 said if he ends up in the destination he hopes 584 00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:46.759 to be, in and LIKE i, said it does seem 585 00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:51.519 like he has one and he ends up having a great, 586 00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:54.680 career then we'll look back on it and, say, hey 587 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:56.640 good job by him getting to the place he wanted 588 00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:00.480 to go and it all worked out, great, Right so you, 589 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.480 KNOW i think that's just sort of how you know 590 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:06.599 at times in the. Draft, like, look if you think 591 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:09.319 about it this, way if you're a, player right you're 592 00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:12.319 going into THE Nba, Draft you're likely going to be 593 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:16.640 with your team for if you're good for the next. Decade, 594 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:20.160 Right so if you have a, chance in my, opinion 595 00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:22.079 if you have a chance to influence where you're going 596 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:25.559 to work for the next ten. Years, YEAH i would 597 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:27.920 be and going to try to do that. 598 00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:28.279 If it was. 599 00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.640 Me now will it? Work do they have a? Plan 600 00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:34.880 these are all good, questions like we will see what happens. 601 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:39.880 Tonight BUT i do think, that you, KNOW i can 602 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:43.440 understand why any player would do, That and, Honestly i'm 603 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:46.240 a little surprised that we don't see more of that 604 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:49.720 from guys at the very top of the. Draft like, 605 00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.559 Famously John elway was, Like i'm not playing for The 606 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.039 colts way back in the, day, right you, KNOW i 607 00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:57.240 managed That i'm not playing for The San Diego. Chargers 608 00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:59.200 Hey mann went back to the, School so you want 609 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.279 to play for The. Jets that has happened more in 610 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:05.240 football that it's happened in THE, nba which is. INTERESTING 611 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.920 i don't really know why the answer is to. That 612 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:10.400 but we haven't ever seen like a number like Said 613 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.440 Cooper plague this year was LIKE i don't want to 614 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.440 play for The. Mavericks i'm gonna go somewhere. Else like 615 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:20.640 we just haven't really ever seen that. Before but LIKE i, 616 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:22.279 said for a guy to have the next nine or 617 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.319 ten years decided by some pingpong balls or a trade 618 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:28.720 or a random thing like. THAT i can understand if somebody's, 619 00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:30.480 Like i'd rather go somewhere else to try to get. 620 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.720 There and by the, way the other thing, Too, spence is, 621 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.000 like if The sixers want to take As, bailey nothing's 622 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.599 stopping them from taking, them, Right it's, like it's not 623 00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:41.440 like there's like any rule against. 624 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:43.559 It you, know. 625 00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:45.160 If he didn't work them. Out And i'm with you, 626 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.240 ALSO i know you weren't making a commentary on. IT 627 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:53.240 i think these workouts are, silly and there's voluminous evidence 628 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.480 of what all these guys do in. GAMES i would 629 00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:58.319 be a lot more in that than what they're doing 630 00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:00.799 in a you, know a ran to work out In. 631 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.759 May but you, know it's all part of the. Process 632 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.960 and again it's one of many reasons why this draft 633 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:10.839 night in particular is going to be pretty. Interesting all. 634 00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:13.839 Right, so since you AND i last, Spoke Oklahoma city 635 00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:18.200 culminated what tim was a historic, season as you and, 636 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.920 others you, know McMahon and mcminnimon and everybody that joins 637 00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:24.839 us from your outlet have outlined all year, long and 638 00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:27.160 maybe we should have been a little bit more frosty 639 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.839 to the scenario and just giving them their flowers instead 640 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:32.359 of waiting to see if they could do what they just. 641 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:35.039 Did i'm always skeptical of a young group that has 642 00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:37.279 never had a deep playoff, run but they shut everybody 643 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.640 up and deserving. Champs so we'll get to The pacer 644 00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.759 side of. It The halliburton stuff. Sucks The east is wide. 645 00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.200 Open but my two tiered question for, You tim is 646 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.039 what Did Oklahoma City championship say to you about where 647 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.480 they are now and where they could be if they 648 00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:54.480 continue to make these savvy moves with surrounding this group 649 00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:54.839 with the right. 650 00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:57.359 Pieces this was. 651 00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:00.119 The Worst thunder team that we'll probably see for the 652 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.599 next five or six, years assuming barring, health and they 653 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.359 won the. Title that's what it said to. Me like 654 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.119 they're second and third best players of twenty. Two they 655 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.079 have thirteen players twenty seven and. UNDER i Think Alice 656 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:17.440 brusso is thirty one And Kenner williams is thirty or vice. 657 00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:19.960 Versa every single other guy on the team is twenty 658 00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:22.599 seven or. Younger they have the fifteenth big in the 659 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:24.559 draft to, night and they're probably gonna trade up into 660 00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:29.519 the lottery to get another. Guy they have talent out the. 661 00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.960 Wazoo they've got the best management team in the. League 662 00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:39.279 they've got an unbelievable ecosystem there of development and culture 663 00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:43.279 and those guys playing together and being committed to the same. 664 00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:46.119 Goal they've got THE mvp of the, League Azeguios, alexander 665 00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:48.400 who just had one of the great seasons of the 666 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.319 history of the, sport WINNING, mvp winning the scoring, title 667 00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:56.279 winning FINALS. Mvp, like there's four guys that have ever done, That, Shack, Michael, Jordan, 668 00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.400 kareem And Shay. Like that's a pretty damn good, list, 669 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:05.480 Right so you, know you start to look at where they're. 670 00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.480 AT i, mean, yes they had people doubt them all, 671 00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.519 year like the twenty fourteen to Fifteen. Warriors that's the 672 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.240 team who they don't play the same way And shaye 673 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.359 doesn't play Like. Steph but that's the team that they've 674 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:20.039 reminded me of all. Year a team that won sixty six, 675 00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.319 games the team that was doubted all the way. Through, 676 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:24.400 frankly a team those data when they won the title 677 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:26.880 because of some injuries in the, FINALS i think unfairly 678 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.440 at the, time, Right and they now have this young 679 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:32.880 core like that team With raymond And. Clay these guys 680 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:36.039 Have chet And Jalen. Williams they all should extend this. 681 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:38.079 Summer they're all going to be together a long, time 682 00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:43.960 And i'm very excited as a basketball fan for their. 683 00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:47.160 Future And i'm also excited for THE nba that they 684 00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.799 won BECAUSE i, think you, know this is now seven 685 00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:52.960 straight years of the new. Champion it's been eleven of 686 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.839 the eleven different teams out of a possible fourteen in 687 00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:57.880 the finals over those seven. Years both of those are. 688 00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:01.519 Records at the same, time This, bob this has been 689 00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:04.160 the NBA's era of. PARODY i think that era is 690 00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.759 over very, likely AND i think The thunder are the 691 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:13.000 new big kids on the block to take. Down and 692 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.160 if you look at the history of THE, nba THE 693 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.599 nba is typically better off while parody is fun when 694 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:21.160 there is a giant to be. Slain AND i think 695 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.720 This thunder team does it the right way and they're 696 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:26.559 going to be awfully good for a long. Time AND 697 00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.440 i think they're fun to, watch AND i think it's 698 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.960 going to be very fun to see how the, team 699 00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:34.359 how the league tries to catch up to, them and 700 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.519 what it looks like for teams trying to, catch you, 701 00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:38.759 know trying to take them down next year in the 702 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:40.240 years to come after. 703 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.960 That so you tiered every team in the, league AND 704 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.000 i have your piece in front of, me and adjacent to, 705 00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:49.200 THAT i have THE Nba vegas. Odds so the QUESTION 706 00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:50.920 i would like to ask you is who in The 707 00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.519 west lives in the same cul de sac As Oklahoma. 708 00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:56.480 City but the reality is the answer is probably. Nobody 709 00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:59.799 denver gave them the stiffest challenge in the, postseason but 710 00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:02.519 Maybe Josh kronki is Trading Nikola. Jokic that was a 711 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.839 really weird thing to say. Yesterday Obviously i'm joking he's 712 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:09.279 not going to do. That The vegas odds Have houston 713 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:13.079 with Kad now on the roster In minnesota as the 714 00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.799 two teams in The west that have odds that are somewhat, 715 00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:20.160 close even though there's a big gap BETWEEN okac and 716 00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.200 the rest of The. West who do you think next 717 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.519 year can at least make them? Uncomfortable and again we'll 718 00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:26.240 just assume full. 719 00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:29.599 Help, YEAH i, mean if you're looking at that overall 720 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:31.839 tiers PIECE i did the other, day IT'S i think 721 00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.000 the three teams in that next group Ex, houston It's, 722 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.799 denver and It's, minnesota like AND i would say probably 723 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.359 either in that order or Maybe, Denver houston and Then. 724 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:43.160 Minnesota Like, Denver denver was one quarter away from probably 725 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:47.359 Beating Oklahoma. City, right they've Got, nikolejokic if they can 726 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:51.200 add anything this summer and have some health in the, 727 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:55.240 playoffs like don't have a chance Like dakolokic feels Like 728 00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.000 lebron did about eight nine years, ago, right like every 729 00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:01.640 time he plays feels like the inevitable, force and he 730 00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:04.400 felt even like the inevitable force in that. SERIES i 731 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:05.759 just felt like they were going to find a way 732 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.239 to win In Oklahoma city summed it at the end and. 733 00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:12.039 One but there'll Be delby there to be heard. From 734 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.800 AND i Think. Houston we'll see About, MINNESOTA i think 735 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.119 they're a little bit farther, away especially if they lose 736 00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:20.559 players this, offseason which they probably will in some form 737 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.360 as they're getting pretty. Expensive BUT i Think houston is 738 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:23.920 going to be really. 739 00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:24.920 GOOD i think. 740 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.679 Rafel stun's done a really good. Job you. Know The 741 00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.719 fred Van vliet extension today is an example of. That 742 00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:33.360 like you've seen a lot of teams kind of throw 743 00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:36.840 money around and The rockets have DONE i, think an 744 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:41.480 excellent job of properly paying their, players which sounds silly 745 00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:44.360 to talk, about but in the new economic reality that 746 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.360 the league is, in every extra dollar you spend comes 747 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:49.880 at a, cost and The rockets really haven't spent any 748 00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:53.960 extra dollars, Anywhere and even in THE kd trade they 749 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:56.920 gave up as minimal a return as they. Could they 750 00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.840 kept all their best young. PLAYERS i really like THEIR 751 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:02.440 i think it was the one team that made sense 752 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:04.679 For Kevin durant to go to from a fit. STANDPOINT 753 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:07.679 i think he makes them a lot better just Taking 754 00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.599 Jalen green's, minutes which is basically what he'll, do and 755 00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.840 they've got a ton of athletic defenders around him to 756 00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:16.559 make it easier on him. Defensively to this point in his, 757 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:18.800 career he's not that much of an impact player at 758 00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:21.199 that end of the. Court and, LOOK i don't think 759 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.480 they're gonna Beat Oklahoma, city but that would be an, 760 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:26.400 awfully awfully fun, series like sign me up for A West, 761 00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:29.119 finals not only With katie going back TO, okc but 762 00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:32.360 you've got you, Know shay And jalen And chet And 763 00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.400 Cason wallace and all those. Dudes going up against the Men, 764 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:40.039 thompson who's an absolute, ouse And Jabari smith And Tari 765 00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:43.079 easton And Al parrenshangoon And Fred Van vliet And Kevin 766 00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:46.320 durant like, that that would be an awesome series and 767 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.039 super fun to, watch and it could be a matchup 768 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.840 we see for a few years. Now so we will 769 00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.840 see where the summer, Goes we'll see what other players move. 770 00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:57.320 Around there's a lot that's still left, happen including. Tonight 771 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.159 BUT i do think That houston team is going to 772 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:02.679 be awfully, good AND i think it's going to be 773 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.199 very interesting to see sort of what the next few 774 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.639 weeks shake look like in terms of how The west 775 00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.760 shakes out and where things. Sit But i'll Take houston 776 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:12.599 And i'll Take, denver AND i think both of them 777 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:14.000 could end up Getting Olkahoma city. 778 00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:15.920 A lot of trouble BEFORE i, say you lose, Him 779 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:18.840 let's move out, east where no part of me will 780 00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:19.679 ever be A pacer. 781 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.079 FAN i can't do. IT i, tried BECAUSE i think. 782 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:23.800 It's a likable group AND i Like rick a, lot 783 00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:27.840 but tremendous respect for a team that nobody saw coming 784 00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.400 to get To game seven in THE Nba, finals AND 785 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.239 i was gutted WHEN i Saw tyres go. Down like everybody, 786 00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:36.159 ELSE i thought the same. THING i don't like to 787 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.320 do the doctor thing as a sports socc radio. Host 788 00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.880 but while we have to give them their, Flowers Dame Tatum, 789 00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.800 tyres the injuries also indicate this conference could be wide. 790 00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.519 OPEN i don't want to be disrespectful to any assist 791 00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.039 longtime assistant, coach. 792 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.599 Nor WOULD i be to a guy Like mike And. 793 00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:57.599 Norri Jeff Van gunny once upon a time an assistant 794 00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.360 coach and nobody knew about who rose to become one 795 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.320 of the best coaches In nick. HISTORY i don't know 796 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:04.159 who's going to coach The. KNICKS i don't know what 797 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:08.719 The cavs look like when the pressure's. On orlando's, intriguing But, 798 00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:12.239 Boston milwaukee And indiana are. Compromised so BEFORE i say you, 799 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:14.199 loose my two part question is your thoughts on what 800 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.360 we just saw from The pacers and how do you 801 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:18.559 view The Eastern conference in a vacuum next? 802 00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:22.760 Season all, out the players were a remarkable. STORY i 803 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:24.599 was definitely going to pick them to get out of 804 00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:26.760 The east again next. YEAR i was really excited to 805 00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.159 see what they would look like next. Year, obviously it 806 00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.760 was devastating to See Terry salbert and get. HURT i, 807 00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:33.760 mean the way he. PLAYS i am at least pretty 808 00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:36.039 hopeful and optimistic that he'll be able to come back 809 00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.679 really well from this. Injury AND i think once he is, 810 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:40.199 back a lot of the stuff they were doing is 811 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:43.440 still going to be transferable and they'll still be really. Good, 812 00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.320 Obviously i'm assuming he And chase And tatum a playing 813 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:50.000 at all next. Year The bucks aren't good enough to 814 00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:53.400 be in the mix. Regardless it's Obviously dave sucks Seeing 815 00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:55.159 dame get hurt, too like that was a brutal part 816 00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.039 of these, playoffs seeing those three guys go. Down AND 817 00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.400 i would say The east is JUST tvd right, Now 818 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:03.719 like it's very wide. Open let's see what happens with The. 819 00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:05.920 Knicks let's see if The cavs do. Something let's see 820 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.159 what Else orlando. Does let you, know let's see what. Happens, 821 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:13.280 uh you, know Kid milwaukee makes some, moves does somebody 822 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.360 else jump in the game and make a big swing 823 00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:19.400 for a? Trade like you, know nobody thought The pacers 824 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:27.039 were making a run uh last year the way they, did, 825 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:28.119 Right so. 826 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:31.400 It will. 827 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:37.519 Be it will be very interesting to see where the east. 828 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:39.639 LOOKS i would say two or three weeks from, now 829 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:42.400 and it's probably a better time to answer that question 830 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.440 because right, now you, know the three teams at the 831 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:51.519 top all have, flause and there's not enough separation there 832 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:53.920 to really say for certain how it's going to go 833 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:55.719 until we see what some of these other moves are 834 00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:56.000 that take. 835 00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.480 Place dam appreciate the. 836 00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.679 TIME i know you're busy on, draft so thank you 837 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:01.599 for making some time for. 838 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:03.559 Us enjoy the. Evening we'll get you back on. Soon, 839 00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:05.239 okay all, right sounds. 840 00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:05.960 Good thanks for having. 841 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:07.960 Me all, Right The Great Tim bontems covers is THE 842 00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.320 nba FOR Espn Draft night tonight live At barclays In. 843 00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.280 Brooklyn we'll move over to our live draft coverage when 844 00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.760 we saycond night at six o'clock With Gordy chase And Richard. 845 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:18.039 Smith start your. 846 00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.039 ENGINES espn seven hundred is excited to announce the first 847 00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.840 Ever Monster Jam World finals coming To Utah july the 848 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.639 fourth and the. Fifth listen TO espn seven hundred for 849 00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:29.039 your chance to win, tickets or visit ticketmaster dot com 850 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.800 now before they're. Gone all, right we'll catch our final 851 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:34.039 break at the two o'clock. Hour coming up Next Raphael, 852 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.480 barlow who's now on THE Nba Big board side of, 853 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.360 things took over For Chad. Ford we'll do a deep 854 00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:41.480 dive on all the prospects that are available for The 855 00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.760 jazz and talk about his. INTEL i be're bringing THE 856 00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:48.039 tv voice of The Utah, Jazz Craig Bowler jack to 857 00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:48.920 give us a little bit of a. 858 00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:50.360 Scene Center porter is going to be. 859 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:54.039 Down live at The Zions Bank Basketball center. Tonight we'll 860 00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.559 have our live coverage in THE Nba draft with myself 861 00:39:56.599 --> 00:40:00.039 anchoring the coverage With Richard smith And Gordy. GA i, 862 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.800 said two guys combined up about ninety years of experience 863 00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.559 analyzing talents in pro. Basketball our next guest has a 864 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.239 lot of experience analyzing talent and pro. Basketball as we 865 00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:12.159 go back to The Barclays center In, Brooklyn New york 866 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.840 to chat with our, Guy Rafael barlow from THE Nba Big. 867 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:16.880 Board, Rafael Happy draft, day. Man how are we? Doing 868 00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:18.639 i'm doing. 869 00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:20.800 Good i'm not at The barclays, Yet i'm stuck In 870 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.079 New york, traffic But i'll be there. Shortly. 871 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.079 Well in that, CASE i feel LIKE i could interview 872 00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:26.880 you for like an hour if you're stuck In New york, 873 00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:28.920 traffic right, man. 874 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.480 It's bumper to. BUMPER i feel LIKE i can take 875 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:31.519 a skateboard and get there. 876 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:33.360 Faster All, RIGHT i won't keep you for an, hour 877 00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.039 but let's get into. It what's your LATEST i know 878 00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.079 what your latest mock, Says i'm in front of. Me 879 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:40.920 but for our, listeners your latest mock draft has The 880 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:42.920 jazz drafting who and WHY. 881 00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.480 I have them going With Ace. BAILEY i know that 882 00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:52.079 that's not his preferred, destination BUT i JUST i can't 883 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.760 imagine if he's there at five and he's the top 884 00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:58.639 three talent in this draft that you saw passes on 885 00:40:58.719 --> 00:40:59.920 him because that's not his prefer. 886 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:04.239 Spot so if You're Austin, INGE i, MEAN i Suppose 887 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.639 raphael and you probably have just answered the Question i'm 888 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.079 gonna ask you, anyway but you can't operate off of 889 00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:11.320 whether or not a young man wants to be. HERE i, 890 00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:13.840 mean we know the, score we know the, deal we 891 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.840 know where the jazz. Play but if you're a roster, 892 00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:19.280 constructor you cannot have that stuff cloud your. 893 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:20.400 Judgment is that fair to? 894 00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.239 Say, like if you Think case is the best, player 895 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:23.519 and he's there at, five you got to go with 896 00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:23.880 the best. 897 00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:27.199 Player, YEAH i, agree and that's WHY i think that 898 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:31.559 it's it's likely that if he's, available that The jazz 899 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:34.840 go ahead and take. Him there's been talk about he 900 00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:38.199 wants to to go to like a bigger market to 901 00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:41.000 make up for possibly the lost money that he would 902 00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:44.760 lose if he by not choosing to go To, philadelphia 903 00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:50.199 and SO i think That utah besides like the geographical, 904 00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:52.840 preferences But utah has what he's looking for as far 905 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:56.480 as immediate playing, time of developmental curve and a place 906 00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:58.719 where he can play through. Mistakes so it makes sense to. 907 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:03.400 Me So i've been IN nba draft, workouts several of 908 00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.400 THEM nba draft rooms as, well and with all due 909 00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.559 respect to the, process the workouts themselves oftentimes are a 910 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.199 little bit. SILLY i, mean we've got tape On a's 911 00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.320 from when he was, twelve and these scouts have watched 912 00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:19.840 him PLAY aau, ball high school, ball college. Ball, LIKE 913 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.320 i don't know that you necessarily need individual. WORKOUTS i, 914 00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:25.920 mean it always helps to. Interview they've got the, medicals 915 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:27.559 they know the, Deal but what do you make of 916 00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:29.800 the noise Surrounding a's as a result of him just 917 00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:31.440 refusing to work out for ANY nba. 918 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:36.039 Teams, YEAH i just think it's strategic on his agent's. 919 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:40.039 Part they have their destinations and from everything That i've been, 920 00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:46.239 told it's Either, Washington New, orleans Or, Brooklyn so they're 921 00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:48.960 just trying to find a way to make a power 922 00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.039 move to get to those preferred. Destinations of, course it's 923 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.159 risky on any team's part if you draft a guide 924 00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:57.639 that doesn't want to be, there simply because you don't 925 00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:01.280 want all the chatter going into training camp or in the, 926 00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.159 season not on basketball about whether or not he wants 927 00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.639 to be. There and maybe it's not as big As 928 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.519 hardened In, philadelphia but it got to the point where 929 00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.719 it just became a mess and they the, owners ended 930 00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.719 up making a. Trade so you don't want that. Scenario 931 00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.239 but LIKE i, said he's just too talented to pass. 932 00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:21.320 Up because you're afraid of. 933 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:25.519 Just what it's just how we acts if he's not, 934 00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:28.079 there AND i shouldn't say how he, acts just all 935 00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:30.199 the negatives. Backlash So i'm. 936 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.239 Going to take advantage of your knowledge and ask you 937 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.559 about some of the prospects that other analysts have The 938 00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:37.760 jazz taking at. Five just to get your take on, 939 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:41.920 It let's Do Jeremiah, fears because three different, mocks Including 940 00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:45.239 Givoni over AT espn And Sam over at The, athletic 941 00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.320 have The jazz Taking Jeremiah fears at. Five so for 942 00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:51.880 our listener's, sake From isaac, too somebody who does a 943 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.199 deep dive and all this. Stuff if The jazz Lands 944 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:56.599 Jeremiah fears at, five what sort of prospects should the 945 00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:57.000 fans know? 946 00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:00.360 About you get a guy THAT i think is going 947 00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.559 to be a star in this. League he's, younger he 948 00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.360 reclassified up and His oklahoma team was predicted to finish 949 00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.719 fifteenth in THE. Sec he led them to THE ncaa. Tournament, 950 00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:15.920 yeah at seventeen point four rebound four sister. Game he's 951 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:18.440 able to consistently get two feet in the paint with 952 00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:21.920 his foot, speed and he's a guy that just is 953 00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:24.159 not afraid of the. Moment he makes things. Happen he 954 00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:27.239 had a game winning shot Against michigan earlier in the. 955 00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:30.159 Year SO i think With Jeremy, fears if you land, 956 00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.280 him you get your point guard of the. Future and 957 00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:35.599 maybe like the alpha dog THAT i Think utah is 958 00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:36.760 missing and. 959 00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:40.159 They're also Missing, raphael in my, opinion a starting caliber point. 960 00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:42.800 Guard with all due respect To Isaiah, callier who there's 961 00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:44.559 some THINGS i like About. Isaiah we talked to you 962 00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:47.400 About isaiah during the process last. Year but if you 963 00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:49.760 tell me that your lead guard that you play thirty 964 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.440 four minutes tonight shoots twenty six percent from, Three i'm 965 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:53.239 gonna tell you got an. 966 00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:55.079 Issue so you do you. 967 00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:57.280 Believe in an area, well the area of need is, 968 00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.760 everything quite, frankly depending on how you view cast. Marketing 969 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.800 BUT i feel like The jazz need their starting point. 970 00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:04.719 Guard would you agree with? 971 00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:04.840 That? 972 00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:08.559 YEAH i think. SO i like What kylier. Did he 973 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:09.599 was one of the skills of the. 974 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:10.920 DRAFT i thought he should have. 975 00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.159 Went higher last. Year the concern with him has always 976 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.320 been the outside. Shooting and if you just look at 977 00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.679 the numbers right, now it may say That Jeremiah fears 978 00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:21.840 is not a really good, shooter BUT i think he 979 00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.039 has a good. Touch he shot eighty five percent from 980 00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:26.719 the file. Line and if you believe free throw shooting 981 00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:30.239 is a good indication of overall shooting touch and, potential 982 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:33.840 then you have to be pretty optimistic about What fears 983 00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:36.880 turns into in three or four, years maybe even sooner 984 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:37.840 a couple of different. 985 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:40.840 BOKS i Have Trey johnson From texas going to The 986 00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:44.400 jazz at. Five you brought Up trey pretty early in 987 00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.079 the process when we visit with, you maybe a couple 988 00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:48.199 of months ago or a couple of weeks. 989 00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:49.519 Ago, now so same. 990 00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:52.079 Question if The jazz land tray at, five what sort 991 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:52.800 of prospect is? 992 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.960 He you get a bucket. 993 00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:58.079 GETTER i Think trey is the best shooter in the, 994 00:45:58.199 --> 00:45:59.599 draft and. 995 00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:01.039 He's that's a good score. 996 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.760 That people forget how good of a shooter he. Is 997 00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:05.119 but he shot out thirty nine and a half percent 998 00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:09.159 from three on six attempts per, game and not a 999 00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:11.760 lot of those were just contestant and wide open. Looks 1000 00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.719 so you get a guy that can score in the mid, 1001 00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:16.760 range you can poll smaller guards. Up he's all about, 1002 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:19.880 basketball and that's that's that's. Key you know some guys 1003 00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:21.880 and there's nothing wrong with having interest so out side 1004 00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.280 of the. Court BUT i live In dallas And i've 1005 00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:26.480 been watching trade for years and he's a guy that 1006 00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:31.000 is just all about. Basketball and him And Kiante John 1007 00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:33.360 Kante george know each other pretty well from being the same. 1008 00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:35.599 Area so they could have their little chemistry on the 1009 00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:36.400 court between those two. 1010 00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:39.679 Guys another name that's been linked by well one different 1011 00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.760 outlet as of now is Kan Kin nipple falling to 1012 00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:44.840 The jazz of. Five AND i say falling because some 1013 00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:48.320 people Think charlotte likes him at. Four so of course 1014 00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:50.320 all of us around here were hoping that The jazz 1015 00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:53.440 had an opportunity to draft a player From, duke but 1016 00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.440 they didn't get the number one overall. Pick so what 1017 00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:59.039 sort of prospect Should jazz fans you? Know what sort 1018 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:05.320 of prospect Is Kanneple For jazz fans that are, CURIOUS. 1019 00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:06.920 I Think conkinepple is one of the safer prospects in this. 1020 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.440 Class he's good shootersh at forty one percent from. Three he's, 1021 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:14.480 Tough he's a connective. Passer in my, OPINION i don't 1022 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.079 think he has the same upside as some of the other, 1023 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.280 guys BUT i think he has a really high. Floor 1024 00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:25.280 so with With, KANNEPLE i think HE i think he 1025 00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:27.760 would Help, utah BUT i still think you would need 1026 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.079 like your your a, one your, ALPHA i mean marketing 1027 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.039 could be that. Guy BUT i still think you would 1028 00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:36.400 need your you, know your your second score or your you, 1029 00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:39.320 know your second best player to be able to get 1030 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:41.920 twenty or twenty five a. Night AND i don't know 1031 00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:43.440 if That's kanneple's. 1032 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.880 Role before we move on to some other teams and 1033 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:48.519 some other. Players The jazz also have twenty one tonight 1034 00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:51.559 in the first. Round so who does YOUR moc have 1035 00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.159 The jazz taking to twenty? One and generally, speaking what 1036 00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:56.039 sort of value do you think is there at that 1037 00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:57.119 in that area in the? 1038 00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:01.599 Draft, yeah once we get to the, TWENTIES i think 1039 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:04.280 it's going to be, really really. TRICKY i imagine there's 1040 00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.880 going to be a lot of. Movement so WHO i 1041 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.480 Have utah mocked at twenty. One they may not even 1042 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.519 be picking at twenty. One it could be some movement. 1043 00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.440 There BUT i Have John, berenger and Maybe i'm pronouncing it. 1044 00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:19.000 Wrong maybe it's bearing. GAY i, mean My french is 1045 00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.920 not the, best but he's a high you can hear 1046 00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.480 The New York city. Traffic he's a high upside swing, 1047 00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:26.199 guy vertical lop. 1048 00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:28.199 Threat really athletics still. 1049 00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:31.639 WRONG i watched him play in a tournament In dubai 1050 00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:34.960 about a year, ago AND i thought he was AN nba, 1051 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.559 prospect BUT i did not see twenty twenty FIVE Nba, 1052 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:41.159 draft so he's exceeded my expectations and he's ahead of the. 1053 00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:45.159 Curve and what he would Give utah would be just a, springy, 1054 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:49.840 young vertical lab, threat a guy that the five should 1055 00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:51.880 be able to switch out and defend on the, perimeter 1056 00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:54.960 and his role would just be as a vertical lop 1057 00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:55.719 threat and a play. 1058 00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:59.960 Finisher do you anticipate chaos? Tonight do you anticipate movement? 1059 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:03.000 Tonight because there are a lot of rumors surrounding you, 1060 00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.840 know The jazz talking with The celtics About Jalen, brown 1061 00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.119 and there's a lot of synergies between these two front. 1062 00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.800 Offices Danny ainge Hired Brad Stevens Austin inge worked For 1063 00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:14.400 brad for the, past you, know four or five years 1064 00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:17.440 or whatever While danny was out. Here Will hardy was 1065 00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:21.199 an assistant for Emy, udoka so coach To Jalen. Brown 1066 00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.239 there's also rumors of The spurs maybe moving off of. 1067 00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.559 TWO i have a hard time believing That i'm hearing 1068 00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.199 there asking for the, World but you, know is there 1069 00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:31.199 a scenario and player where The jazz kicked the tires 1070 00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:32.920 on too is there a scenario and player where The 1071 00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:35.199 jazz look At Jalen brown from The Boston. Celtics do 1072 00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:38.159 you anticipate status quote tonight or do you think we're 1073 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:38.840 gonna see a lot of. 1074 00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:41.440 MOVEMENT i think we're going to see a lot of. 1075 00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:45.239 MOVEMENT i feel like any trade that has been rumored 1076 00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.079 probably doesn't happen outside of the durant situation where we knew. 1077 00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:51.480 THAT i, mean we knew that he was going to be. 1078 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.719 Moved but, hey, MAN i live In. Dallas If Luca 1079 00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:56.400 dosa can be traded in the middle of the, night 1080 00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:59.079 anybody can be, Traded So i'm not gonna SAY i 1081 00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:02.239 don't think it is. Unreal and then, obviously The celtics 1082 00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:04.599 And jazz front office state they know each other pretty. 1083 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.920 Well they're on each Other's christmas, List christmas gifts cards 1084 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:11.199 list or, whatever SO i wouldn't be. Surprised but at 1085 00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:14.599 the end of the, DAY i just to understand Why 1086 00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:18.000 boston would Move Jalen brown a year after winning a. 1087 00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:20.679 TITLE i guess they did it with, You, Holliday But 1088 00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:23.519 Jaylen brown is young so has a lot to. Give 1089 00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:25.320 but it would be a win For utah for. Sure 1090 00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:26.039 if you Get Jalen? 1091 00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:31.199 Brown all, right is there any intrigue with the first three? 1092 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.239 Picks vegas is telling us as if now there's Not 1093 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:36.440 do you feel like we're going to see any surprise 1094 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:39.199 or is it just going to Be, cooper Then dylan 1095 00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:41.880 and then followed BY. Vj do you think that's just 1096 00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:42.400 what we're gonna? 1097 00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:48.039 SEE i think. So, However Daryl morey is a guy 1098 00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:51.039 that he may not care about all the, noise and 1099 00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.199 he may do WHAT i just mentioned that The jazz could. 1100 00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:56.119 Do If Ace bailey sitting there, Five daryl morri could 1101 00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:58.119 could indeed Take Ace bailey at number. 1102 00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:04.960 Three all, Right of all the comps or superlative Surrounding Cooper, 1103 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:06.880 flag what is your? 1104 00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:08.000 Favorite what's the most? 1105 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.159 Accurate what sort of player do you think he'll be 1106 00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:11.559 when he's fully developed in THE. 1107 00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:19.559 Nba, man that's a tough. One i'd say. MAYBE i, 1108 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:21.920 mean He Cooper, flag he just is good in so 1109 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.119 many different. Areas it's so many. COMPS i, mean obviously 1110 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:28.840 you guys have heard The Andrew krolinko. COMPS i THINK 1111 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:33.360 i mean there's some there to. Me maybe he's maybe 1112 00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:38.159 he's a smaller version Of Kevin, garnett all, Right Kevin 1113 00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:40.800 garnett when he had his he was in his best In. 1114 00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:44.480 Minnesota but when he got To, boston he may not 1115 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:46.559 have been their, closer he may not have been their leading, 1116 00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:49.719 scorer but he was The he was the engine behind. 1117 00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.440 Everything AND i Think flag could could be similar To 1118 00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.760 garnett and the fact that he's able to impact the 1119 00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:58.559 game with his, scoring with his, rebounding with his, passing 1120 00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:02.159 and his. Defense what about dealing as big as guard 1121 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:02.440 net for? 1122 00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:05.480 Sure, yeah for? Sure what about. 1123 00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:12.199 You, know maybe a combination Of Jalen brunson and Post 1124 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.760 Houston Rockets James. Harden SO i don't think that he's 1125 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:18.000 gonna be the guy That harden was In houston where 1126 00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:20.599 he averaged about thirty five a. Game but if he's 1127 00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:25.599 a consistent version of twenty twenty four twenty Five James, 1128 00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:28.679 harden obviously probably not gonna shoot as many bees As, 1129 00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:31.159 harden but just a bigger. Guard now he's not the 1130 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:33.519 playmaker As, harden AND i want to make that, clear 1131 00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:37.760 but just a bigger point guard that can get downhill 1132 00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:40.400 and generate a lot of trips to the foul. Line 1133 00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:44.639 SO i see best case scenario combination of those. 1134 00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:46.960 Two let me let me ask you About. 1135 00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:50.599 Mallowatch come, On, malowatch who one of our guys who 1136 00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:52.800 will be on the draft cover? Tonight Richard smith likes 1137 00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:54.639 and off al Lots. Maid he spent forty years with 1138 00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:58.000 The jazz front. Office uh, it it doesn't make a 1139 00:52:58.039 --> 00:52:59.880 ton of sense for The jazz to draft him in 1140 00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:02.760 at five and. Less they're moving on From kessler and 1141 00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:05.440 maybe they are not really sure what that what that 1142 00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:08.400 direction is going to look. Like but what's your analysis 1143 00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:10.719 Of come, on mala watch the kid From duke and 1144 00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:11.639 who do you think grabs him? 1145 00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:16.159 Tonight he can go in a lot of different. Directions 1146 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:19.880 i've heard that The pelicans would strongly consider him if 1147 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.960 My fears And Ace bailey are off the board of Her, 1148 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:27.800 washington if they want to go with a double big, 1149 00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:32.760 lineup if they don't Get fears Or Ace, bailey The 1150 00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:37.000 pelicans WHO i had, Mentioned, YEAH i just think he Compliments. 1151 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:39.119 Zion but best case, scenario he's a guy that can 1152 00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:43.760 anchor your defense for too the rim be a vertical lob, threat. 1153 00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:44.920 A rim runner. 1154 00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:49.960 Finisher but the main intrigue with him is how well 1155 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:51.880 he projects as a. Shooter we didn't see it a 1156 00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.039 lot At, duke but we saw it in The Basketball Africa. 1157 00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:55.199 League we saw. 1158 00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:57.199 Him make a three or two in The olympics and 1159 00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.400 he shot about seventy eight percent from the foul. Line, 1160 00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:01.960 so LIKE i said About Jeremiah, fears if you believe 1161 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.880 that good free throw shooting is an indicator of, touch 1162 00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:08.679 then you have to be pre optimistic About molly watched 1163 00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:10.480 his long term potential as a floor. 1164 00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:14.480 Spacer really only one local player holding, intrigue and That's 1165 00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:17.000 Yegor demon who played his college ball At Brigham young 1166 00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:17.920 For Kevin young for a. 1167 00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:19.920 Year what are you hearing? About where Yeg Or demon 1168 00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:20.679 my fault? 1169 00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.840 TONIGHT i actually just talked to, him probably about an hour, 1170 00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:25.960 ago and he said he doesn't, know but he told 1171 00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:28.280 me that he got a good night's. Sleep he wasn't. 1172 00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:33.199 Worried i've Seen. Atlanta atlanta was a team that coming 1173 00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:37.159 into this, offseason it was rumored that they were looking 1174 00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:40.639 to address two. Needs one was size up. Front they 1175 00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:43.239 needed a seven footer and then at backup point. Guard 1176 00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:46.320 they made the Movie yesterday to Get Kristoups persingers From. 1177 00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:50.400 Boston SO i think at thirteen they'll target a backup point. 1178 00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:52.840 Guard it could be Between Yegor, demon it could Be 1179 00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:57.440 Kaspar shakachnas From. Illinois but The jegor's draft range is. 1180 00:54:57.480 --> 00:54:59.920 Wide he might have the widest draft range in this. 1181 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:01.960 Class and there's some teams that really like, them and 1182 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:05.880 then there's some teams that aren't so sure about the 1183 00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:08.000 shooting and even the ball. Handling BUT i think his 1184 00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:10.800 range could be anywhere from like nine to. 1185 00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:15.280 Eighteen you, know we've all experienced draft night where we've 1186 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:18.039 had to watch a player, slide sometimes all the way 1187 00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:18.599 out of the first. 1188 00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:19.519 ROUND i called The. 1189 00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:22.079 Rishard Lewis kurtz for old SCHOOL nba, fans and there's 1190 00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:26.320 nothing more. Uncomfortable you're just feeling so bad for the young. 1191 00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:30.679 Prospect give me The Raphael barlow take on the prospect 1192 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:31.840 most likely to. 1193 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:33.880 Slide anything you're hearing, THERE. 1194 00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:40.639 I really have heard anything that's kind of. Tough, HONESTLY 1195 00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:43.320 i have to see these parents and their families in 1196 00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:44.760 a few, Minutes SO i don't know IF i want 1197 00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.400 to be aggregated by saying THAT i think someone's gonna. 1198 00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:50.239 SLIDE i don't. KNOW i, mean this draft is so, 1199 00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:52.840 unpredictable and then there's also going to be a lot 1200 00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:55.679 of movement and trades in the, twenties SO i think 1201 00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:58.599 THE nba did a good job of only inviting twenty 1202 00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:01.039 four guys to the green room leave somewhat of a 1203 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:04.119 cushion for a guy to be able to get drafted 1204 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:08.519 in the first. ROUND i think would be pretty rough 1205 00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:10.760 for a guy that is invited to the green room 1206 00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:12.440 and he has to come back on a second. DAY i, 1207 00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:14.679 MEAN i don't even know if guys brought two, suits 1208 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.280 SO i think everybody that was invited to the green 1209 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:19.800 room is anticipating being in the first. 1210 00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.639 ROUND i want to ask you About Walter clayton, junior 1211 00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.840 who won two state championships in high, school won a 1212 00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:28.840 conference championship AT, iona and he was THE mvp of the, 1213 00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:31.960 league and then won a national championship In. Florida you, 1214 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:34.880 know talent evaluators fall in love with, youth and certainly 1215 00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:36.519 for a team like The, jazz who are a long 1216 00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:38.880 way away from even being kind of, GOOD i understand 1217 00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:41.679 why you would lean towards an eighteen or a nineteen year. 1218 00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:44.079 OLD i know he's a little bit, older but the 1219 00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:46.639 kid just wins wherever he's, at and there's a little 1220 00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:50.320 Like Jamal murray esh shot making ability that he. Has 1221 00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:54.480 what do you think about the prospect Of Walter Clayton 1222 00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:56.679 junior in pro basketball and generally, speaking where do you 1223 00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:57.679 think he's going to land? 1224 00:56:57.719 --> 00:56:58.000 Tonight? 1225 00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.719 YEAH i think you end up into twenty. SOMEWHERE i 1226 00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:05.000 was actually shocked that he received a green room, invite 1227 00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:08.440 especially Over Jace. Richardson like you mentioned, that we always 1228 00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:11.360 kind of fall in love with, youth and sometimes we 1229 00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:15.400 OVER i guess overanalyzed guys that have four or five 1230 00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:18.920 years of college. Experience But Walter Clayton junior is a shot, 1231 00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.519 maker he's a, Winner he's fresh off the national. Championship 1232 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.360 there are some concerns whether or not he's AN nba point. 1233 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:28.239 Guard he only played point guard one season At. Florida 1234 00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:33.039 he's more so of a scorer and shot. Maker i've 1235 00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:36.719 even had AN sec coach tell me that because most 1236 00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.519 of his shots are off the, dribble and usually guys 1237 00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.800 who prefer to score a lot off the dribble are are. 1238 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.960 Starters and so he wondered if he's playing like an 1239 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:48.320 off the bench, role and if he's a planer reduced, 1240 00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:51.079 role is he going to have the freedom to play 1241 00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:53.400 how we played At florida with a lot of pull up. 1242 00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:55.320 Jumpers and step backs and so. 1243 00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.039 On SO i think he'll be drafted in the first, 1244 00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:02.320 round BUT i think how well he. PERFORMED i think 1245 00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:05.920 IT'S i, mean it's a it's a vague answer, here 1246 00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:07.639 BUT i think fit is going to be, really really 1247 00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:08.119 important for. 1248 00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:13.840 Him we've seen locally and nationally a tremendous amount of 1249 00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:17.840 star players that have been found in mid, lottery late, 1250 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:21.159 lottery late first. Round you, Know John, Stockton carmel And Donovan, 1251 00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:24.280 Mitchell Rudy, Gobert Gordon. HAYWARD i could keep, going and 1252 00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.920 The Oklahoma City thunder just won a, championship and There 1253 00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:27.639 lynchpin was. 1254 00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:28.960 Not a top five, Pick Kawhi. 1255 00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.280 Leonard we could continue to list, names as you, know 1256 00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:35.039 give me a, Name, raphael of a player that you 1257 00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.920 think will not be drafted top, five top, eight that 1258 00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:40.400 may slide mid lottery or late first, round that we'll 1259 00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:42.360 be talking about in five six years as a guy 1260 00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:43.239 that should have been drafted. 1261 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:48.159 HIGHER i would go With Stanford's. Maxine right. Now i've 1262 00:58:48.280 --> 00:58:53.000 Been i've been called an industry plant just Because i'm 1263 00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:56.000 so high On. Reno BUT i just think he's been 1264 00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:59.800 hiding and playing. Sight he was second in THE acc and, scoring. 1265 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:03.880 Rebounding he's a seven. Footer he has twenty points eleven. 1266 00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:07.679 Rebounds he made the most threes IN ncaa history by 1267 00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.039 a seven footer and a guy that you're familiar, With 1268 00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:12.960 Lori markinen is the one that holds that. Record and 1269 00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.800 then he's also A Lake bloomer started playing. Basketball lake 1270 00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:19.039 was a swimmer growing up In, france and he entered 1271 00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:22.000 college basketball on a partial. Scholarship so within the last 1272 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:25.199 four years he's transformed himself to a twenty and eleven 1273 00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:28.480 guy and a power. Conference SO i think he's just 1274 00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:30.960 been hiding at plain. Sight he had a GOOD nba 1275 00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:33.679 combine and then all of a sudden he started seeing 1276 00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:37.239 his name rise in first rounds on different. Mocks but 1277 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:39.679 he's been doing that ahole year. Long so he's a 1278 00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:42.440 guy THAT i think a lot of people are just 1279 00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:45.239 not given enough credit for how good he. 1280 00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:48.079 Is all, right BEFORE i say you, LOSE i wanted 1281 00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:51.119 to ask you about one more, prospect just kind of 1282 00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:53.679 selfishly as we kind of figure out how this thing 1283 00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:56.320 is going to go. Down And i've heard a bunch 1284 00:59:56.400 --> 00:59:59.719 of different people discuss the, potential and we'll have to 1285 00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.320 see what happens in front of. Him BUT i think 1286 01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:06.079 it's no In, segway The french kid who is thought 1287 01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:09.199 to be a top ten. Prospect but for our, Listeners, 1288 01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:13.679 raphael an interesting story came down AND i honestly don't 1289 01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:15.639 know how to land on it because this is the 1290 01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:17.239 dream of all of these young. 1291 01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:19.639 Men all these young men want to PLAY nba. 1292 01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:21.880 Basketball none of these young men care about winning a 1293 01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:25.480 championship In. Germany but In sengue's, team he's A french 1294 01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:27.960 prospect who plays for A german team that's playing for 1295 01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:31.960 The german, championship and he's leaving them during their competition 1296 01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:34.119 to be here at the. Draft LIKE i, Said i'm 1297 01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.119 not sure THAT i blame. Him but what sort of 1298 01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:37.880 noise are you hearing as to whether or not that 1299 01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:39.840 would dissuade teams from taking a look at. 1300 01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:43.559 Him, WELL i spoke with this agent yesterday about, it 1301 01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.119 and ACTUALLY i knew about this at the. Combine his 1302 01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:49.000 agent had mentioned to me that there's a chance that 1303 01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:52.360 this could possibly happen if they ended up going five 1304 01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:56.280 games into The German league finals and everything was approved 1305 01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:58.559 by the. Team the team knew, it AND i even 1306 01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:02.480 think that because he's he's not From, Germany he's From 1307 01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:06.719 france And radial farm on the team he place for 1308 01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:10.119 is known for taking chances on young, players actually probably 1309 01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:13.000 the only team In europe that will play young guys 1310 01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:15.800 that aren't afraid to go with. Them SO i think 1311 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:19.079 they knew that this was a, possibility and from everything 1312 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:21.679 That i've heard from his, agent this was. Planned it 1313 01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:24.000 wasn't like he just up and left and they didn't 1314 01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:24.440 know about. 1315 01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:25.880 It so he's. 1316 01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:28.280 HERE i saw me, yesterday he was at the media, 1317 01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:31.559 day AND i understand that he's got to take a 1318 01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:35.360 pr hit behind. That there's been some pretty major publications 1319 01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:38.920 that have questioned just how committed he would be a 1320 01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:42.079 team because of this. Move But i'm thrown onder. Myself 1321 01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:45.760 you only get one opportunity to be, drafted one opportunity 1322 01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.559 to Shake Apple sooper's. Hand but on the other, HAND 1323 01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:51.079 i get how someone could say that this was a 1324 01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:51.960 little bit selfish of. 1325 01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.360 Them all, Right, raphael tell everybody on draft day where 1326 01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:56.119 they can go find your. 1327 01:01:56.159 --> 01:01:58.239 Work you can. 1328 01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:01.159 Find me AT nba board dot. Com that is my. 1329 01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:02.840 NEWSLETTER i have a postcraft. 1330 01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:04.519 RECAP i guess. 1331 01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:07.159 In a few hours and THEN i have a podcast 1332 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:09.599 locked ON nba Big. 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Jack we'll do more jazz basketball and be 1382 01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:09.719 a Draft Spencer linton stops. 1383 01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:11.519 By was a big day FOR byu football. 1384 01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:15.000 Yesterday we'll do Some Yegor demen and some college basketball 1385 01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:16.840 launch into the five o'clock hour of the. 1386 01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:18.239 Program then We'll Saga night. 1387 01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:20.320 At, six and after we say good night for our 1388 01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:23.199 afternoon drive, program we will start our draft. 1389 01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:25.000 Coverage we're all anchor the. 1390 01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:28.000 Show james will be producing and then we'll Have Gordy 1391 01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:29.440 chias And Richard smith. 1392 01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:31.239 Alongside all, right we Got. 1393 01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:33.920 Bowler on the show today on the other side of 1394 01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:37.719 four o'clock talk some jazz. Basketball what he's hearing on 1395 01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:39.960 his end as it is a big, day it's a 1396 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.119 big day for The. Jazz it's a massive knight for The. 1397 01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:44.960 Jazz when you have a top five, pick got to take. 1398 01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:45.440 Advantage. 1399 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.800 Man we'll do some college football and some college basketball 1400 01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:50.079 With Spencer linton before we get to the five o'clock 1401 01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.440 hour of the, program and then We'll saga night at 1402 01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.320 six o'clock and make make way for our draft. Coverage 1403 01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:57.400 we'll have the best coverage in the market by. Far 1404 01:04:58.039 --> 01:05:00.119 i'll be anchoring the. Coverage it'll Be Gordy, Chase Sir 1405 01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:02.920 Richard smith along for the ride to combine ninety years 1406 01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:08.599 of experience evaluating talents for pro basketball, teams namely The Utah. 1407 01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:11.440 Jazz so stay tuned for that good stuff From Tim 1408 01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:14.760 Bond temps live on site. Today Rafael barlow stopped by as. 1409 01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:17.960 Well raphael does THE Nba Big. BOARD a lot of 1410 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:22.000 noise Surrounding Ace bailey and The Utah jazz potentially Selecting 1411 01:05:22.039 --> 01:05:25.039 Ace bailey tonight at five should he be there available for, 1412 01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:28.039 Them and it feels like he's going. TO i don't 1413 01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:30.559 know if it's a consensus outside of the top, three 1414 01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:32.599 but it does feel like everything That i'm reading to 1415 01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.400 this point Has Cooper flag off the board of, one 1416 01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:38.079 As Dylan harper off the board of two To San. 1417 01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:40.519 Antonio of, Course cooper To, dallas and THEN. 1418 01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:42.559 Vj edgecomb appears to be the pick at three for 1419 01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:46.079 The philadelphia seventy six. Ers of, Course Daryl morey has 1420 01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:48.400 proven before to be a wildcard and certainly could be 1421 01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:52.320 a wildcard tonight Con kinnipple at. Four it seems to 1422 01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:56.320 be a lot of momentum in that, direction which leads 1423 01:05:56.760 --> 01:06:03.199 leaves The jazz in a very advantageous. Play, so, okay 1424 01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:05.360 we got a little breaking. News porter say that, again go, 1425 01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:06.039 Ahead John. 1426 01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:08.800 Collins not that this is a surprise at, All spencer 1427 01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:14.840 a report From Scham's sharania twenty six point five million 1428 01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:18.719 dollar player. Option as we've talked about a, lot you're 1429 01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:22.400 gonna take that if You're John, collins and apparently as 1430 01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:24.800 of right, now he is exercising that. 1431 01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:27.079 Option, yeah not too much of a. 1432 01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:29.039 SURPRISE i, mean it's not like The Jazz we're going 1433 01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:32.320 to Extend John collins at big. Money Uh, so this 1434 01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:36.119 just Means john will play on an expiring, deal which 1435 01:06:36.159 --> 01:06:38.159 is a nice bargaining chip For Austin ainge and The 1436 01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:41.719 Utah jazz probably tough to Move john after they first 1437 01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:44.920 acquired him From. Atlanta remember they gave nothing to The. 1438 01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:46.480 Hawks The HAWKS R i give you if you want, 1439 01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:49.360 him he's. Yours they didn't have to give up anything 1440 01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:52.159 For John. Collins and he's kind of like this perfect 1441 01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:54.639 vet because he's not a good. Player he's not a bad, 1442 01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:58.039 player but he does fill a salary cap. Spot gotta pay, 1443 01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:00.679 players you have. To there's not just a salary cap. 1444 01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:03.960 Ceiling there's a salary floor that you have to meet 1445 01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.719 as AN nba. Organization so you, Know, JOHN i think 1446 01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:10.639 played pretty well For will last, year about as good 1447 01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:12.280 as could be expected for a guy that has the 1448 01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:14.760 limitations That John collins. DOES i don't think it means 1449 01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:18.360 anything that's paramount to the process. Tonight but we could be, 1450 01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:20.480 wrong because if there is a deal on the, table 1451 01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:24.079 we'll use The Jalen brown, example because several people have 1452 01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:26.880 reported that The jazz and The celtics are currently discussing 1453 01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:30.039 the framework of a deal they could Land john excuse, 1454 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:32.280 me could Land Jalen brown In Salt Lake city to 1455 01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:35.360 play for The jazz and just for salary matching, purposes 1456 01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:39.159 and also the dynamics we've already, Discussed, like the only 1457 01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:42.119 way it makes sense for The jazz to make a 1458 01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:44.360 deal For Jalen brown is if they find a way 1459 01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:47.960 to hold on to their other good, players because it's 1460 01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:50.000 a linear. Move if you have to move off of 1461 01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:54.199 Like markenin And kessler and draft capital in. Exchange and 1462 01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:57.119 by the, Way boston wouldn't do that, anyway because their 1463 01:07:57.159 --> 01:08:01.079 motivation for moving on From jalen is To shed's, salary 1464 01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:04.360 so they don't Want lowry's long term. Deal at least 1465 01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:07.159 that would be my. Guess Walker kessler's up for an. 1466 01:08:07.159 --> 01:08:11.239 Extension quite frankly this. Year you can Extend walker if you, want. 1467 01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:14.800 So any framework of a deal wouldn't Include marketing And, 1468 01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:17.319 kessler and it couldn't from The jazz side of, things 1469 01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:20.479 because you'd just be spinning your wheels and moving in 1470 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:23.279 a linear direction if you move off your other good. 1471 01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:25.279 Players because if You're Jalen, brown you want to play 1472 01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:26.640 with good. Players you want to play for a team 1473 01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:29.920 that's actually trying to win. Something it continues to not 1474 01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:32.079 resonate with. Me on The boston side of, THINGS i 1475 01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:34.760 just wouldn't do it because the framework of a deal 1476 01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:37.840 would Include. John it would Include John collins for salary. 1477 01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:42.000 Purposes it would probably Include Colin, Sexton Jordan, clarkson and 1478 01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:44.439 then you, know three to four, picks and The jazz 1479 01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:47.800 certainly have those picks to, Offer so that would be 1480 01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:50.079 the framework of. It and if you do Add Jalen 1481 01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:54.079 brown to a lowery market In Walker kessler front, court. 1482 01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:55.399 You know then you got. 1483 01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:58.720 Something you're Not Oklahoma, city you're Not, houston you're Not, 1484 01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:01.600 denver you're Not. Minnesota but maybe you're something other than 1485 01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:04.640 simply just a playing. Team maybe you are the sixth 1486 01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:07.760 or the seventh best team in The. West that's still 1487 01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:10.800 tough based off of how stack The west is. NOTICED 1488 01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:12.560 i listed teams AND i didn't even list the one 1489 01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:16.359 that Has Lebron james and Freaking Luka doncic or an 1490 01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:18.880 owner with one hundred and forty billion, dollars Namely Steve, 1491 01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:23.199 balmer who has shown his willingness to pay a lot 1492 01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:27.520 of money for his. Roster, now ironically, enough THE cba 1493 01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:32.720 and The Second, apron which has caused so many teams 1494 01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:35.279 to make so many difficult, decisions actually did affect The, 1495 01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:38.560 clippers but it wasn't monetary reasons like The Second. 1496 01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:40.399 Apron punitive nature isn't just. 1497 01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:43.600 Economic you can have draft picks taken, away you can 1498 01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:47.199 have draft picks. Frozen it hinders your ability to change your, 1499 01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:51.359 roster it hinders your ability to. Pivot so it's not just. 1500 01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:55.039 Economic it's also you can't use your tax payer mid level. 1501 01:09:55.039 --> 01:09:59.399 Exception you have draft capital potentially taken from. You your 1502 01:09:59.399 --> 01:10:02.479 ability to to add to your group is essentially cut 1503 01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:07.399 off underneath your, knees. Right and so when the information 1504 01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:10.159 came out about how punitive this stuff was from a 1505 01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:14.479 roster construct construction, standpoint The clippers said goodbye To Paul. 1506 01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:16.479 GEORGE i mean they were adversely. 1507 01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:20.560 Affected not Because Steve balmer is not willing to write 1508 01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:24.039 checks for his. Team it's because, organizationally you don't have 1509 01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:26.279 the ability to really pivot and change your. Group you 1510 01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:28.760 kind of are you are. NOW i want to be, 1511 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.760 CLEAR i think this is too. PUNITIVE i think the 1512 01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:35.359 league has gone too far the other direction and now 1513 01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:41.520 they're penalizing teams for building excellent rosters too. PUNITIVELY i 1514 01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:44.279 understand the, motivation and as we do radio here In 1515 01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:47.199 Salt Lake, city you, know it is a good thing 1516 01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:50.159 for teams that live in challenging places to build, teams 1517 01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:53.520 and that's what we have here In Salt. Lake it's 1518 01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:56.039 also led to the parody that they've been looking. For 1519 01:10:56.079 --> 01:10:59.680 if we just crowned the seventh straight, champ seventh straight 1520 01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:02.720 differ for AN nba champ over the past seven. Years 1521 01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:07.119 it's never happened. Before so mission accomplish if You're Adam. 1522 01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:09.720 Silver BUT i look at this through the prism of 1523 01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:13.159 What denver built With, jokic and now they had to 1524 01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.920 say goodbye to rotational pieces in consecutive. 1525 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.760 Years that has really hindered. 1526 01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:21.479 Them When denver won that, championship remember there were conversations 1527 01:11:21.479 --> 01:11:23.920 BECAUSE i Think jokich was twenty six when they won the. 1528 01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:26.600 Title it's, like, dude Can denver run off like three 1529 01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:29.239 or four Straight, well they couldn't afford to Keep Bruce, 1530 01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:32.079 brown they couldn't afford to Keep Jeff, green couldn't afford 1531 01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:34.279 to Keep contavious called Well. Pope they let a lot 1532 01:11:34.279 --> 01:11:37.319 of good rotational pieces, walk and they tried to plug 1533 01:11:37.359 --> 01:11:39.920 holes with young, players some of whom Were Christian brown's 1534 01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:42.319 a good. Player but they bring In Russell westbrook on 1535 01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:44.800 a veteran minimum deal and it was. Atrocious SO i 1536 01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:48.399 know That westbrook had, moments But westbrook always has. Moments 1537 01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:51.560 he doesn't impact winning for a player that puts up 1538 01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:55.000 those numbers that you would like to, see for a 1539 01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:58.039 guy that has averaged a triple double in a season 1540 01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:01.800 and won AN mvp The Russ westbrook storyline and conversation 1541 01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:05.359 when he is done playing will be fascinating because he 1542 01:12:05.439 --> 01:12:07.560 is going to The hall Of, fame but you can't 1543 01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:10.439 win with, Him like he's not gonna win a, ring 1544 01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:13.359 you can't win. Championships or If Russell westbrook is on 1545 01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:15.359 your roster and he's playing more than like ten minutes to. 1546 01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:19.399 Night so we've seen the second aprin adversely effect The Denver. 1547 01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:23.840 Nuggets we've seen it adversely effect The Golden State. Warriors 1548 01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:27.199 we've seen it adversely affect THE La. Clippers but like 1549 01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:30.119 if you're you know a project that was started By 1550 01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:34.079 Danny ainge and continued By Brad, Stevens The Boston celtics 1551 01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:37.119 built up an insanely good roster that should have put 1552 01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:39.119 them in the mix to win championships for like six, 1553 01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:41.720 years and in a way it. Did they went to 1554 01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:45.800 i think five conference finals With tatum And, brown TWO Nba, 1555 01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:48.039 finals and they did get their. Chip but for a 1556 01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:51.359 team that built a roster like that to essentially have 1557 01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:53.159 to break it down honestly. 1558 01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:53.399 Feels a little. 1559 01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:59.039 Unfair like you're you're telling these roster constructors and these 1560 01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:02.199 talent evaluators Like okay you've got to go build the 1561 01:13:02.199 --> 01:13:05.920 framework of a championship contender in this ecosystem with the 1562 01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:08.920 guidelines we're given, you and then when they do, it 1563 01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:11.159 you're telling them that essentially you have to break it 1564 01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:13.720 down or you have no ability to change your. 1565 01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:15.880 Team i'm not a huge. 1566 01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:19.000 FAN i hope when the NEW cba expires in twenty 1567 01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:21.680 thirty they actually look at some different. Avenues, now the 1568 01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:25.119 problem is if you're The jazz right now is the 1569 01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:29.119 best time in the history of this league for an 1570 01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:33.319 organization that exists in a city Like Salt lake to 1571 01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:36.279 be able to get into the. Game we just Saw 1572 01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:39.000 Oklahoma city win a championship and they beat The Indiana, 1573 01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:43.520 pacers who exist In. Indianapolis to small, markets The Minnesota, 1574 01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:46.079 timberwolves according to The, vegasads or the third favorite to 1575 01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:49.039 win The west next. Year They minneapolis not a desirable 1576 01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:53.039 free agent. Destination AND i could keep. Going It's milwaukee With, 1577 01:13:53.079 --> 01:13:56.720 Giannis It's denver With. Jokic it's a lot of these 1578 01:13:56.760 --> 01:14:00.239 teams that exist in smaller places AND nba city that 1579 01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:03.399 aren't free agent, destinations that have been able to operate 1580 01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:05.680 under the guidelines of what THE nba puts in place 1581 01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:08.560 to build championship, teams and unfortunately The jazz are so 1582 01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:12.039 far away that when the NEW cba expires in twenty 1583 01:14:12.079 --> 01:14:14.560 thirty it might be too. Late they've got a lot 1584 01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:17.880 of work to, do So John collins has exercises twenty 1585 01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:21.640 six point five million dollar player. Option but we really 1586 01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:26.199 can't underscore the importance of tonight top five. Pick of, 1587 01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:29.600 course The jazz were, hoping as a result of really you, 1588 01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:34.000 know being very intentional losing basketball games this, year to 1589 01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:36.640 get more lottery luck than they, did but unfortunately they 1590 01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:39.359 fall where they, fall and the four losing his teams 1591 01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:42.039 in the league this year all. Slid none of them 1592 01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:45.840 are drafting in the top four actually outside Of, charlotte 1593 01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:48.720 but the top three picks are made by teams that 1594 01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:51.560 actually are ready to do something pretty special right. Away 1595 01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:57.159 dallas's situation is really really interesting because we don't see 1596 01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:02.760 generational players Like cooper slide into this ready made to 1597 01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:03.640 win experience Like. 1598 01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:05.399 Lebron back in two thousand and three when he's a 1599 01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:06.239 number one, pick. 1600 01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:09.199 The calves were so bad they actually had to move 1601 01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:11.359 off some pieces because there were some veteran players that 1602 01:15:11.399 --> 01:15:14.680 didn't Think lebron deserved the role that he was given 1603 01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:17.640 and when he was able to make that First calves 1604 01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:19.960 team actually decent and go to THE Nba, finals go 1605 01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:22.800 back and look at that. Roster it's wild how unprepared 1606 01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:26.720 they were to be serious about. Competing and mostly when 1607 01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:29.159 there's a number one, pick he goes to a team 1608 01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:32.279 that is a long long way from doing anything. Special 1609 01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:34.680 dallas will have something to say about The west as 1610 01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:35.239 soon as next. 1611 01:15:35.319 --> 01:15:37.479 Year The kyrie stuff. 1612 01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:40.479 Hurts kyrie's not going to, play But, kyrie by the, 1613 01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:42.920 way opted out of his contract to forty three million 1614 01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:45.600 dollar option that he declined and signed a three, year 1615 01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:47.159 one hundred and nineteen million dollar. 1616 01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:48.800 Contract it's team. 1617 01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:51.560 Friendly it actually Allows dallas to use the taxpayer mid 1618 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:54.439 level exception because they need to find a point guard this, 1619 01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:56.520 year and maybe they look At Colin sexton From The. 1620 01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:59.359 Jazz tim McMahon has reported that on the show they 1621 01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:01.520 need to find some to kind of keep the ship. Afloat, 1622 01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:04.920 Well kyrie is rehabbing That achilles', injury but you look 1623 01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:07.039 At Anthony, davis who's A hall Of fame player and 1624 01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:10.159 AN nba, champion you, know you look At Klay, thompson 1625 01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:12.840 who's A hall of fame player and AN nba, champion 1626 01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.960 And Jason, kidd who is highly respected as a head. 1627 01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:19.079 Coach and then When kyrie comes, back Like cooper does 1628 01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:19.720 not have to go. 1629 01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:21.720 To dallas and be the world for. Them he just. 1630 01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:24.680 Doesn't and that's a, great great spot for. 1631 01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:26.520 Him you, know we talk about this through the prism 1632 01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:29.279 of pro football all the, time and the most recent, 1633 01:16:29.279 --> 01:16:31.960 example which is a polarizing one with a local, tie 1634 01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:34.439 Is Zach wilson going to The. JETS i don't Think 1635 01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:36.439 zach was ever going to be a great starting quarterback 1636 01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:38.119 in THE. NFL i don't think he ever will, be 1637 01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:40.960 but it didn't help that he landed with The. Jets 1638 01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:42.680 and as A jet, FAN i can tell you is 1639 01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:47.319 an organization of, dysfunction and, ultimately you, know it is 1640 01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:50.199 about the individual, talent but it's also about the fit 1641 01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:53.840 and the front office and ownership and the coaching staff 1642 01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:56.840 and their ability to develop. PLAYERS i think a lot 1643 01:16:56.920 --> 01:16:59.800 of people will always wonder and there's a little jim 1644 01:16:59.920 --> 01:17:01.840 or for that stuff here as we're sitting here on 1645 01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:05.119 draft day WHEN byu fans love to be the revisionist 1646 01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:07.359 historians to say, like, well you landed in the right, 1647 01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:09.560 Spot Keith smart didn't like, him or he landed in 1648 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:13.319 the wrong, Spot Keith smart didn't like Him. Sacramento, No 1649 01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:18.560 like he had ultimately five or SIX nba opportunities to 1650 01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:20.880 just prove that he was at least wrote a rotational. 1651 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:23.680 Piece he was never going to be a bald dominant 1652 01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:26.079 like lead THE nba in, scoring and he was never, 1653 01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:27.920 really in my, opinion even going to be a. Starter 1654 01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:31.640 but could for that cracker rotation in pro? Basketball the 1655 01:17:31.680 --> 01:17:35.399 answer was an emphatic. No and so WHEN byu fans 1656 01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:37.279 do the whole, like, Hey zach didn't land, there, like 1657 01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:40.199 it's the same. Thing he's going to get an opportunity 1658 01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:42.239 In miami and he probably will be able to start 1659 01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:44.600 some games this year BECAUSE twoa doesn't stay healthy very. 1660 01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:47.159 Much AND i don't think it's gonna look, great BUT 1661 01:17:47.199 --> 01:17:49.720 i do make space for the argument like what Would 1662 01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:52.199 Zach wilson look like if he landed With Kyle shanahan 1663 01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:55.800 of the forty nine, ers? Right and so when it 1664 01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:59.399 comes to, fits when it comes to coaching, staffs when 1665 01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:02.039 it comes to front, offices if you're the agent and 1666 01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:04.119 one of these, players you have to weigh a number 1667 01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:06.399 of different things out about the destination that you would 1668 01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:09.880 prefer for your client and for these young men that 1669 01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:13.640 are about to be, drafted because, remember it's not about 1670 01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:16.479 the rookie. Contract like one of the cool things About Draft, 1671 01:18:16.600 --> 01:18:18.119 night one of the THINGS i like about it the 1672 01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:22.079 most Is i've always enjoyed watching the lives of people 1673 01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:26.520 change in real, time instantly winning a, lottery winning a 1674 01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:31.399 bunch of, money winning something. Special ncuba, tournament you, know 1675 01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:34.720 smaller schools that make the ncublea tournament and somehow advance 1676 01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:38.079 two rounds and the coach gets hired By syracuse or, 1677 01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:40.359 whatever you, know a big, school and suddenly his life. 1678 01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:43.960 Changes the lives of these young men will change, tonight 1679 01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:48.359 but they really change with generational, wealth with the second 1680 01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:51.279 contract and the third, contract et, cetera et, cetera et. 1681 01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:54.560 Cetera so the, motivation if you're an agent or if 1682 01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:58.039 you're on a team kind of advising in any of 1683 01:18:58.079 --> 01:19:01.199 these young men is long jeny and is the right 1684 01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:03.479 spot for the long, haul not the right spot for 1685 01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:05.319 a year or. Two, remember for that didn't even have 1686 01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:07.920 his final year of his rookie contract picked. 1687 01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:08.520 Up that never. 1688 01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:11.119 Happens the only time that happens is when the front 1689 01:19:11.159 --> 01:19:15.199 office realizes they made a tragic, mistake like they didn't 1690 01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:16.520 even give him one more year to. 1691 01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:19.800 Develop they're, like we've seen. Enough, ultimately we can't draft. 1692 01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:22.439 Him so The jazz are in a good spot with 1693 01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:25.359 a front office that is well respected and a head 1694 01:19:25.399 --> 01:19:27.880 coach that appears to be a guy that is fit 1695 01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:28.159 for this. 1696 01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:31.880 Job and so, hopefully whether it's A bailey Or Trey. 1697 01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:35.199 Johnson or et, cetera et, cetera et, cetera this front office 1698 01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:39.239 and this coaching staff can develop this young prospect and 1699 01:19:39.279 --> 01:19:41.720 hopefully be here for the long, haul because, again as 1700 01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:44.239 we talk about all the, time what this organization has 1701 01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:48.520 been able to do is really capitalize on two thirds 1702 01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:50.920 of the formula that you need to build a roster 1703 01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:55.880 in pro, basketball which is, draft, develop and. Retain, now 1704 01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:58.800 the recent returns of draft picks, have if we're, honest 1705 01:19:58.920 --> 01:19:59.840 have been not good at. 1706 01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:01.720 All whether It's isaiah. 1707 01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:03.520 Or keyante Or Kyle there are some things to like 1708 01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:05.680 about a few of, them but the two top ten, 1709 01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:08.279 Picks Taylor hendricks unfortunately has not been able to stay 1710 01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:11.840 healthy so, far And Cody williams honestly had a historically 1711 01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:15.159 pathetic rookie. Year so there's a lot of pressure On 1712 01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:17.239 Austin age and The jazz to get this. Right, tonight 1713 01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:20.239 we will launch you into our draft coverage beginning at six. 1714 01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:22.960 O'clock all, right we'll catch our final break at the 1715 01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:25.239 three o'clock. Hour Craig. Bowler jack is our guest to 1716 01:20:25.239 --> 01:20:27.880 start things off during the four o'clock. Hour but let's 1717 01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:30.680 welcome In Chris. MAMOTT i Hope i'm saying that. Correctly 1718 01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:35.079 Ute Memet Youte Stampede. Rodeo Chris memmi joins us on A. Wednesday, 1719 01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:36.479 CHRIS i. Apologize how are, you? 1720 01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:37.680 Sir i'm. 1721 01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:39.159 Good, thanks it's great to talk. 1722 01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:39.199 To, you. 1723 01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:41.359 SPENT i appreciate you hopping. On so tell us about 1724 01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:43.520 The Ute Stampede. Rodeo what do we need to? 1725 01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:47.800 Know, well, specifically we're talking about the bull riding that's On, 1726 01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:51.960 wednesday the night It's Extreme bowls and it's you, know 1727 01:20:52.039 --> 01:20:55.199 you're talking about draft day to. Day this is like 1728 01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:57.880 the kind of the cream of the crop of THE 1729 01:20:57.880 --> 01:21:02.800 prca bull riding guys that come in and write only 1730 01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:04.800 bulls that. Night AND i saw it for thirty five 1731 01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:07.960 thousand dollars on a one night deal and really really 1732 01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:10.600 a great, ticket a great a great night with your. 1733 01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:14.880 Family hopefully everybody will come out and join. 1734 01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:17.840 Us, okay when is? It where is it and where 1735 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:18.640 can people go get? 1736 01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:19.000 Tickets? 1737 01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:24.760 Chris, okay it's On july, ninth and our website is 1738 01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:26.640 You Stampede rodeo dot. 1739 01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:29.279 Com all, Right, CHRIS i appreciate the. 1740 01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:31.239 Time we'll make sure to send people to the website 1741 01:21:31.279 --> 01:21:32.600 And i'll look forward to being down there. 1742 01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:33.279 Myself thank, you. 1743 01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:35.039 Sir, okay appreciate. It thank, You. 1744 01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:37.760 Ben all, Right, chris memit You Stampede rodeo go to 1745 01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:41.119 You stampederodeo dot. Com july the nine through the twelfth In, Nephi. 1746 01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:42.840 Utah you ever ridden a? 1747 01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:47.000 BULL i have written a mini. Bull i've never stayed 1748 01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:48.560 stayed on for eight seconds before. 1749 01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:50.720 Though a mini? Bowl so is that like a baby? 1750 01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:52.840 Bowl is that exactly what it sounds? Like not a? 1751 01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:58.880 Baby they're literally like a genetically Mini and WHEN i 1752 01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:00.680 was a, child that was what you tried to get 1753 01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.479 on at The Francis Frontier days. 1754 01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:08.520 Rodeo that sounds dangerous as a so, wait as a young, 1755 01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:11.800 child you went to rodeos where other children were allowed 1756 01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:12.479 to ride mini? 1757 01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:13.680 Bowls or you just get. 1758 01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:16.720 On you call it mutton, busting which you get on 1759 01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:21.600 a sheep and it just flails around the entire arena 1760 01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:24.000 and smashes you up against the. Fence, yeah that's what 1761 01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:25.720 we call good time in Rural. 1762 01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:28.840 Utah, now just to be you did say mutton busting 1763 01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:31.399 with an am, Right, yeah, okay, good that's. 1764 01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:33.680 Uh that may have misheard you breaking breaking some. 1765 01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:38.359 Sheep, Okay so as a young young Porter larsen and his. 1766 01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:40.039 Peers you're gonna need, pictures aren't. 1767 01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:42.720 You, Well i'm just trying to wrap my mind around. 1768 01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:46.239 This you were allowed to ride mini bowls and sheep 1769 01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:50.359 that threw you around the, arena and you clearly were 1770 01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:52.279 falling in with the potential of being. 1771 01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:57.760 Hurt, YES i believe probably parents signed some, documents But 1772 01:22:57.800 --> 01:22:58.960 i'm not totally sure on that can't. 1773 01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:00.800 Confirm did you have to pay for the right to 1774 01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:01.920 get your ass kicked on these? 1775 01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:06.279 Animals so Sometimes i'm sure maybe a donation you used 1776 01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:10.520 To they throw out like chickens or oiled up pigs 1777 01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:13.560 at some of the events and you go down, there 1778 01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:15.359 you give them a, quarter you give them a fifty cent, 1779 01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:18.520 piece and you get to chase the oiled up pig 1780 01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:19.960 and maybe take it home to your. 1781 01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:23.119 Farm, well they charge you more than fifty bucks or 1782 01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:24.920 fifty cents to take the pig, home wouldn't. 1783 01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:26.079 They now you get it for. Free it's the. 1784 01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:29.520 Competition, wait so you give them fifty, cents you chase a, 1785 01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:31.199 pig and if you catch, it you can take it. 1786 01:23:31.279 --> 01:23:34.319 HOME i don't know exactly how all of the events, 1787 01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:37.560 go but that was one of. Them, yes The Youth, 1788 01:23:37.600 --> 01:23:41.760 stampede though pretty, specifically especially on The, wednesday they're doing 1789 01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:44.159 JUST Prca bowl events and then they got the full 1790 01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:45.640 four DAY Prca. 1791 01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:49.199 Rodeo will parents have the ability to allow their kids 1792 01:23:49.239 --> 01:23:51.920 to ride mini bowls and then mutton busting with, SHEEP 1793 01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:52.439 i don't think. 1794 01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:55.319 So fourth Of july weekend In, oakley come up. 1795 01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:56.880 THERE i got, you know that's my. 1796 01:23:57.039 --> 01:23:59.239 JAM i got you covered The Oakley rodeo and Then 1797 01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:01.800 i've told you. Before The Demolition derby was my. Favorite 1798 01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:04.840 like these, weirdos crazy people just crashing their cars into each. 1799 01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:06.279 OTHER i thought it was fascinating as a. 1800 01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:08.319 Kid, yeah those are those are those are PEOPLE i grew. 1801 01:24:08.399 --> 01:24:09.680 Up that's that's all the. 1802 01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.239 NEIGHBORS i have an idea for a side hustle for, 1803 01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:17.079 you derby rodeo clown be the dude that chases the 1804 01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:19.479 bowl away from killing the cowboy and head and then 1805 01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:20.560 flew it into killing. 1806 01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:23.920 You you would be surprised how many people have told 1807 01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:26.640 ME i should do, that and not like they're not. 1808 01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:31.520 Joking you're, agile you you're, fast you're, athletic AND i 1809 01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:32.960 would imagine they get paid a little. 1810 01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:37.079 Cash, Right oh, yeah the good. Bullfighters there's a title. 1811 01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:39.239 Here we actually get paid really. 1812 01:24:39.239 --> 01:24:40.600 Good way the clowns are called. 1813 01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:45.960 Bullfighters there's there's different avenues. Here see now we're getting 1814 01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:46.560 deep into the rodeo. 1815 01:24:46.600 --> 01:24:48.399 Stuff it's not my. World you have to educate. 1816 01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:50.359 Me there, are for, sure like rodeo clowns that are 1817 01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:52.439 like part of the. Performance they usually got a mic, 1818 01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:55.319 on they're, funny they do acts in between. Events but 1819 01:24:55.359 --> 01:24:58.520 there's also bullfighters who are very. Different they're paid to, 1820 01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:00.560 literally as you were, mentioning protect to the guys who 1821 01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:03.600 are getting bucked, off and they're way more. Involved they're 1822 01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:05.960 like right up at close and personal during the during 1823 01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:06.199 the bull. 1824 01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:09.119 Riding Are they also dressed as clowns, usually. 1825 01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:12.600 But they're way more. Athletic AND i don't want to 1826 01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:15.039 say competent but. Resourceful you're blowing my. 1827 01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:17.439 Mind so wait a, second how DO i decipher between 1828 01:25:17.600 --> 01:25:20.039 the clown that's funny for the show and the clown 1829 01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:21.640 that's really trying to save people's. 1830 01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:23.760 Lives you can tell now you've just got to pay. 1831 01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:26.279 Attention the clown that's just trying to be, funny probably 1832 01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:29.560 got a big stupid hat on in a. Microphone he's 1833 01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:32.239 not making his money as much as as our bullfighter. 1834 01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:34.640 Friends all, right there's a hall of fame for the bullfighters. 1835 01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:37.880 Too i'm telling you should look into this a side. 1836 01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:40.279 Hustle we would all come watch you be a bullfighter 1837 01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:42.199 dressed as a clown trying to save cowboys. 1838 01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:43.600 Lives i'll look into. 1839 01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:47.039 It Youte stampedrodeo dot. Com The Youte Stampede rodeo will 1840 01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:48.880 Be july the nine through the twelfth in Ne, Fai, 1841 01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:51.479 Utah so definitely check it. Out all, right two hours, 1842 01:25:51.479 --> 01:25:55.239 down two hours to go for afternoon, drive just under 1843 01:25:55.279 --> 01:25:56.239 two hours. 1844 01:25:55.880 --> 01:25:57.760 Away from the beginning of THE Nba. 1845 01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.640 Draft we will have excellent draft coverage for you here 1846 01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:03.720 on the. Station we'll say good night at six. O'clock 1847 01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:05.680 then it's going to be time for, Myself. 1848 01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:06.640 Gordy chias And Richard. 1849 01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:10.399 Smith smitty And gordy combined like ninety years of experience 1850 01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:14.079 analyzing talent take you through the entire first round, tonight 1851 01:26:14.119 --> 01:26:16.079 and then tomorrow night it'll be Just smitty AND i 1852 01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:18.960 will Give gordy the night. Off but technically OUR Nba 1853 01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:22.319 draft coverage has begun and it will. Continue and it's 1854 01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:24.640 just simply been too long since we've heard a little 1855 01:26:24.640 --> 01:26:27.079 deaf leopard on the, program which means it's time for 1856 01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:30.279 our conversation with a Great Craig. Bowler Jack, Bowler Happy, Wednesday, 1857 01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:30.920 man how you, Been. 1858 01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:33.720 Hey, pal good to hear from. You you got a 1859 01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:37.119 nice lineup. Tonight, man you're Right smittye And gordy come, on, 1860 01:26:37.239 --> 01:26:40.960 man that's that goes way. Back that's a combination. 1861 01:26:41.079 --> 01:26:43.720 There, yeah no excited for. It we'll have a good, Time. 1862 01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:46.760 Bowler so, look we know that you're not the general, 1863 01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:49.199 manager but you're of course the voice of the team 1864 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:52.079 and you work with the, Club so, like what are you? 1865 01:26:52.159 --> 01:26:54.720 Hearing what's your understanding about what we could expect tonight 1866 01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:54.960 from the. 1867 01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:59.760 Jazz you, know there's always little whispers and rumblings and 1868 01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:01.840 and you, know all of his, chat and you, know 1869 01:27:01.880 --> 01:27:04.520 we talked to other people around the league and you, 1870 01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:06.760 know get their take on what The jazz are about 1871 01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:08.760 and just The, west you know. Basically AND i JUST 1872 01:27:09.079 --> 01:27:11.800 i just heard your last take from tearing down The? 1873 01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:15.119 Boss was it The celtics to The? Studs you, know 1874 01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:17.000 there's a lot of talk In boston TOON i, Too 1875 01:27:17.279 --> 01:27:19.800 there's a lot of talk. Everywhere BUT i think The 1876 01:27:19.880 --> 01:27:23.000 jazz are. Aggressive i'd be stunned if they're. Not Look, spence, 1877 01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:26.560 obviously we talked about this before in other, years AND 1878 01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:30.279 i think this is one, of if not the most 1879 01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:33.960 important summer draft of The. Jazz, well if they brought 1880 01:27:34.039 --> 01:27:37.880 In big t in eighty, three they Had mark, there 1881 01:27:38.039 --> 01:27:41.720 they had then stockedon in eighty, Four malone in eighty. 1882 01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:45.359 Five it was a, process but for just one particular, 1883 01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:49.880 DRAFT i think this thing is. Big you got the five. 1884 01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:54.279 Pick you last year you won. Seventeen the fans were 1885 01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:57.840 all in on the growth factor of A Walker. Kessler 1886 01:27:58.279 --> 01:28:01.039 they saw the emergence Of isaiah a, year they saw 1887 01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:05.880 What philipowski can. Do, obviously upset That Taylor hendrix was 1888 01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:08.479 injured and you really couldn't get a good feel of 1889 01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:13.079 what his talent level. Is Cody williams disappointed a, bit 1890 01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:16.479 but you, know when you're top, ten you know expectations are. 1891 01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:19.399 High SO i think With austin ings now It's spence 1892 01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:24.159 at the helm and the assets That danny hands to. 1893 01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:27.920 Him there's a lot of possibilities. TONIGHT i think it's 1894 01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:31.119 a busy. Night we'll talk tomorrow AND i could be totally, 1895 01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:35.119 wrong but the opportunity to be busy with a five 1896 01:28:35.159 --> 01:28:38.239 and twenty one, tonight and do you move up from twenty? 1897 01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:42.880 One do you make some late deals or deals during the? 1898 01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:48.399 DRAFT i think it's busy at least that's kind of 1899 01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:51.239 the buzz That i've heard in People i've talked. 1900 01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:55.119 To so The austin factor is, Interesting craig for a 1901 01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:58.000 few different. REASONS i don't know THAT i would go 1902 01:28:58.039 --> 01:29:00.960 as far as to say, unprecedented BUT i will use 1903 01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:05.920 the adjective unique for an owner to hire the new 1904 01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:10.560 decision maker mere weeks before potentially the biggest draft this 1905 01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:13.479 organization has seen in a number of. Years and, look 1906 01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:16.239 it's not Like austin doesn't know the. Staff he might Know, 1907 01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:19.600 danny that's my. Guest he might Know Danny ainge pretty, 1908 01:29:19.640 --> 01:29:21.880 well And i'm sure he Knows zanik and everybody. Else 1909 01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:26.319 it's not like this is a Random Eastern european scout 1910 01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:27.359 that you brought over to run the. 1911 01:29:27.399 --> 01:29:29.279 Team like people Know. Austin austin knows. 1912 01:29:29.319 --> 01:29:33.880 People i'm not saying it's completely new as far as relationships, 1913 01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:36.039 go but it is new as far as the loudest 1914 01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:38.199 voice in the room being hired weeks before the. 1915 01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:40.520 Draft what sort of dynamic do you think that brings 1916 01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:40.640 in a? 1917 01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:45.560 Play you, know that's a great. Question i'm with. YOU 1918 01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:49.159 i think it's a tough position For Austin ainge to. Take, 1919 01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:54.479 obviously embrace the moment opportunity once in a lifetime to, 1920 01:29:55.199 --> 01:30:00.800 recharge rebuild a. Franchise but you talk about doing with. Homework, 1921 01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:03.960 look he's in The, East yes he's his dad's been 1922 01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:07.680 with The jazz for multiple years now With ryan at The. 1923 01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:10.600 Helm but you, know your focus is On boston at the, 1924 01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:13.720 time and your focus is On Eastern conference, teams and 1925 01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:17.319 obviously you know something about The. West but now you're 1926 01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:20.680 in a deep dive, here you, know and maybe you 1927 01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:24.600 work your magic in The east with player subtractions or, 1928 01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:27.359 additions you, know and moving a player here or moving 1929 01:30:27.399 --> 01:30:31.239 a player there and using your. Contacts it's really about Contact, 1930 01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:33.520 spence as you know from you know your you know 1931 01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:36.920 your dad with the jazz and and and and everything 1932 01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:39.239 In New. YORK i, MEAN i think it's really how 1933 01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:42.800 do you use your your, insight your contacts and can 1934 01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:45.239 you move one chess piece to appease you and help 1935 01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:49.439 a piece? Another And I'm i'm Guessing austin's got to 1936 01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:52.439 be pretty good at that to be in a position 1937 01:30:52.520 --> 01:30:55.119 where he was with The. Celtics he learned from From, 1938 01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:58.439 danny he's been With Brad, stevens and tonight he'll be 1939 01:30:58.479 --> 01:31:01.800 on full. Display, Well i'm heading down right now to 1940 01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:05.239 The Science Bank basketball campus And i'm axsious to see 1941 01:31:05.239 --> 01:31:07.439 IF i can get a minute with, him because that's 1942 01:31:07.520 --> 01:31:10.279 kind of the QUESTION i had, too is where are you? 1943 01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:14.279 At and you know there's draft picks available NINE i 1944 01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:17.560 believe in all that rank up to twenty thirty one 1945 01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:21.960 second round picks as, well so there's a lot of opportunity. 1946 01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:22.520 For him to move and make. 1947 01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:26.520 Deals but does he actually use him tonight or is 1948 01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:29.680 it down the? Road how Aggressive spence is my question 1949 01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:34.439 does he want to? Be and really how aggressive Does 1950 01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:39.079 ryan want him to Be hockey's on the upswing The Jazz. 1951 01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:42.560 NATION i thought last year did a remarkable. Job you, 1952 01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:46.119 talk we talked a lot about this during the season 1953 01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:48.439 that when you were there and dropped by the, BOOTH 1954 01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:50.920 i mean you were. IMPRESSED i was. IMPRESSED i Thought 1955 01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:55.760 Delta center hung tough throughout the entire season with watching 1956 01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:59.079 the young guys. Grow AND i keep going back to 1957 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:01.600 the time, too when When Will hardy said earlier in 1958 01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:04.359 his career that you, know this isn't an easy place to. 1959 01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:07.239 WORK i, mean THE nba is for the. Elite some 1960 01:32:07.319 --> 01:32:09.439 will make, it some will. Not who has the guts 1961 01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:12.000 to put the work. In and we're probably going to 1962 01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:15.960 start seeing three years now Into will's career as the head, 1963 01:32:15.960 --> 01:32:19.760 coach the data, points the, data the data is all 1964 01:32:19.800 --> 01:32:23.640 in on these you, know these these picks That will 1965 01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:26.159 was a part. Of AND i think the question is 1966 01:32:26.199 --> 01:32:29.199 we might get some answers here in the next, week maybe, 1967 01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:32.880 tonight who, stays who, goes and you know who is 1968 01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:35.279 going to be a part of the. Cores AND i 1969 01:32:35.279 --> 01:32:37.239 think those are big questions that have to be. Answered 1970 01:32:37.279 --> 01:32:39.560 and you know What Austin ainge is going to help 1971 01:32:39.600 --> 01:32:40.800 answer him you. 1972 01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:43.520 Know the other Dynamic craig that this brings into play 1973 01:32:43.560 --> 01:32:46.439 With austin is now the decision maker is he did 1974 01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:49.840 not draft any of the players it has been drafted 1975 01:32:49.880 --> 01:32:51.720 over the past few. Years he did not trade For, 1976 01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:55.640 lowry he did not trade For. Walker literally zero of 1977 01:32:55.680 --> 01:32:59.279 these players Have austin's fingerprints on, them which leads me 1978 01:32:59.319 --> 01:33:02.199 to believe they're zero players on the roster that he've 1979 01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:05.000 used as. Untouchable AND i think that's. FAIR i, MEAN 1980 01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:08.880 i don't want to dismiss and diminish and disrespect a 1981 01:33:08.960 --> 01:33:12.239 veteran Like lowry or a young player Like, Walker but 1982 01:33:12.319 --> 01:33:14.800 outside of those, two and maybe even including those, Two 1983 01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:17.239 i'm not sure That austin to use anybody As, okay 1984 01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:19.840 they have proven to me that they are part of 1985 01:33:19.880 --> 01:33:22.399 this thing long, term which really brings everything into play 1986 01:33:22.399 --> 01:33:23.159 and it makes it kind of. 1987 01:33:23.159 --> 01:33:28.199 Fun, yeah you know, what that's another great point in any, 1988 01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:32.279 business and you've been, Involved i've been INVOLVED. Cbs for, 1989 01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:35.760 me new people come, in they make, them they make, 1990 01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:39.319 change they put someone that they do have a finger print, 1991 01:33:39.359 --> 01:33:44.600 on and then there's an untouchable on. Occasion but same At, 1992 01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:48.760 fox same AT. Ksl radio is no different and you, 1993 01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:52.640 KNOW i go back To Dennis. Lindsay you, know he 1994 01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:56.600 was very. Protective you remember of a guy you know 1995 01:33:56.680 --> 01:33:59.760 that came out Of, australia you, know you Know, dante 1996 01:34:00.439 --> 01:34:02.760 and it was tough for him to admit it wasn't 1997 01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:05.920 going to. Work and that's what you just alluded, to 1998 01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:10.600 is the fingerprint of protecting your pick because it reflects 1999 01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:14.319 on your decision making and if you go someplace, else 2000 01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:18.640 then you, say look look WHAT i. Did AND i 2001 01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:21.920 think you make a great. Point these players are, players 2002 01:34:21.960 --> 01:34:26.359 AND i know Or danny And austin during the process respect. 2003 01:34:26.479 --> 01:34:29.279 That but at the same, TIME i think the way 2004 01:34:29.319 --> 01:34:33.039 the business is run is that you know, what IF 2005 01:34:33.079 --> 01:34:35.600 i got to move, you that's just part of the. 2006 01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:40.079 Business and you, know the relationship probably is not let's 2007 01:34:40.119 --> 01:34:41.000 just call it what it. 2008 01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:42.319 Is it can't be that. 2009 01:34:42.520 --> 01:34:45.079 Strong but he hasn't had a chance to even get 2010 01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:47.520 to know them as much as you would, Love Like 2011 01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:50.880 teddy drafted, him it's a totally different. Ballgame Will hardy's 2012 01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:53.920 invested because he's coached all these guys and helped helped 2013 01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:57.199 develop and watch their. Maturation but, Yeah austin's in a 2014 01:34:57.239 --> 01:35:00.319 Position SPENCE i think is a, great great point could 2015 01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:04.000 make moves without a lot of emotion. Attached does that 2016 01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:07.199 make sense because a lot of gms have trouble moving 2017 01:35:07.720 --> 01:35:10.840 a pick that they actually brought in or a free 2018 01:35:10.880 --> 01:35:14.039 agent that they made you, know that they brought in as. 2019 01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:16.399 Well SO i think, tonight you, know maybe not as 2020 01:35:16.439 --> 01:35:20.279 an emotional one For, austin but, yet let's be, honest 2021 01:35:20.279 --> 01:35:22.520 the pressure's. ON i think there's a lot of pressure 2022 01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:24.279 to push this team. 2023 01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:29.680 Ahead well In austin's, Dad danny at his introductory press 2024 01:35:29.720 --> 01:35:32.119 conference when he was announced as THE ceo Of Jazz, 2025 01:35:32.159 --> 01:35:35.520 basketball AND i always chuckle WHEN i bring this. Lineup 2026 01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:37.600 it just made me laugh Because i've Known danny SINCE 2027 01:35:37.640 --> 01:35:39.840 i was a. Kid he, said you all should know 2028 01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:43.119 THAT i remove emotion from decision making when it comes 2029 01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:46.800 to roster. Construction then he Traded donovan and he Traded 2030 01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:49.159 rudy like he broke the whole thing, down you. Know 2031 01:35:49.279 --> 01:35:51.479 and SO i would Imagine austin operates very much in 2032 01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:52.279 the same mold as his. 2033 01:35:52.359 --> 01:35:56.520 Pops, YEAH i wouldn't be. Surprised and you know, what 2034 01:35:56.600 --> 01:35:59.520 would may get a first real hint of that tonight 2035 01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:03.560 if The, jazz if the right situation. APPROACHES i still 2036 01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:08.119 think most GM's most not, all are working on that 2037 01:36:08.199 --> 01:36:11.760 same basis spence trying to let not the emotions dictate 2038 01:36:12.199 --> 01:36:15.880 what moves they. Make there's been cases WHERE i think 2039 01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:19.720 maybe a player has stayed too long because of that 2040 01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:23.000 tie to a. Franchise but if The jazz need to 2041 01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:26.319 make a, BREAK i would think this would probably mean 2042 01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:31.720 probably mean the most opportunistic time because of a new you, 2043 01:36:31.720 --> 01:36:33.840 know you just said. It he's a loudest voice in 2044 01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:37.359 the room, tonight and it's going to be really interesting 2045 01:36:38.079 --> 01:36:41.760 what direction and just how loud that voice, is because 2046 01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:45.960 there are plenty of opportunities to move, vets to also 2047 01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:50.239 use picks to improve your position and be more. Aggressive you, 2048 01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:52.079 know if they stay at twenty, ONE i may be. 2049 01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:55.079 SURPRISED i MAY i THINK i would. BE i think 2050 01:36:55.319 --> 01:36:58.319 if there's a player that really they feel like is 2051 01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:02.960 perfect fit and they have to go to fifteen to get, 2052 01:37:03.039 --> 01:37:06.000 him maybe that's the case because they have the assets 2053 01:37:06.039 --> 01:37:09.239 at least to be in the conversation and for all 2054 01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:11.840 indications and all the all the websites you've been On 2055 01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:14.840 i've been, on The jazz keep popping up on occasion 2056 01:37:14.920 --> 01:37:19.760 about being you, Know paul's are being. Fielded and that's 2057 01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:23.239 interesting because a lot of times that information doesn't leak 2058 01:37:23.279 --> 01:37:26.960 out because you, know back from your dad's time To 2059 01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:33.079 Scottie laden And kevin O'Connor Dennish, man it's it's like 2060 01:37:33.119 --> 01:37:35.159 playing you, KNOW i wouldn't want to play poker with 2061 01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:37.920 him because they are as straight faced and tight lift 2062 01:37:37.920 --> 01:37:40.079 as they can. Be and that's that's their, job because 2063 01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:41.720 they got to protect the players that are on the 2064 01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:44.920 roster and not, interfere you, know with their with the. 2065 01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:47.199 Relationships but it's it's a you, know it's kind of 2066 01:37:47.239 --> 01:37:49.800 a touchy ground to try to work your way around 2067 01:37:49.840 --> 01:37:54.520 all those all those issues of feel good good relations 2068 01:37:54.520 --> 01:37:57.880 but yet still talking about a player potentially moving or you, 2069 01:37:57.880 --> 01:37:59.319 know bringing another guy. 2070 01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:03.920 In so you, know without knowing the mindset of the 2071 01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:07.039 organization and what direction they're going to, go it does 2072 01:38:07.119 --> 01:38:09.479 make it difficult to tantalize what they should or should 2073 01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:12.720 not do tonight because are they going to try to 2074 01:38:12.720 --> 01:38:14.920 expedize this, Process are they going to try to use 2075 01:38:14.960 --> 01:38:16.800 their assets to bring in a, vet are they going 2076 01:38:16.880 --> 01:38:19.560 to simply just go? Young and you, Know austin said 2077 01:38:19.640 --> 01:38:22.279 during his opening press conference and response to our very 2078 01:38:22.279 --> 01:38:25.199 Own sean O'Connell's question that he will not be manipulating 2079 01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:29.039 minutes or draft capital this, year and that's, fine but 2080 01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:31.199 you do have a top eight protected pick that goes 2081 01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:34.119 to you, Know Oklahoma, city who you know just want 2082 01:38:34.119 --> 01:38:36.439 a championship this year if you fall out of the top. 2083 01:38:36.439 --> 01:38:38.039 Eight so there's a fine line to. 2084 01:38:38.079 --> 01:38:40.800 Walk but as somebody who has a front row seat 2085 01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:44.319 to all of, this, uh there's the old draft cliche 2086 01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:47.359 best player available or you, know somebody you draft to 2087 01:38:47.399 --> 01:38:47.720 fit a. 2088 01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:49.600 Need it feels like they need. 2089 01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:53.000 Everything and but if we operate off the premise that 2090 01:38:53.079 --> 01:38:55.720 they feel really good About marketing And, kessler maybe what 2091 01:38:55.760 --> 01:38:58.880 they don't need is a Big but you, know at, 2092 01:38:58.920 --> 01:39:01.720 FIVE i haven't really heard outside the malawatch kid From 2093 01:39:01.760 --> 01:39:04.520 duke and he bigs link to. Them do you feel 2094 01:39:04.560 --> 01:39:08.039 like that they are solidified anywhere that would motivate a 2095 01:39:08.119 --> 01:39:10.720 decision to take one player over the other based off 2096 01:39:10.760 --> 01:39:12.720 of need or do you think they just need to 2097 01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:14.680 take the very best player possible at? 2098 01:39:14.680 --> 01:39:19.840 Five you, know defense is a lot of things in this, 2099 01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:22.399 league and so is three point. Shooting so you, know 2100 01:39:22.439 --> 01:39:25.680 you're always looking for a six to six guy with 2101 01:39:25.840 --> 01:39:30.079 wingspan and, beyond and who can knock down a triple 2102 01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:33.680 that would be a. PLAYER i would think The jazz 2103 01:39:33.760 --> 01:39:38.800 would eyeball, obviously and the top five six players have 2104 01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:41.960 some of that potential. Obviously you know es eventually make 2105 01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:45.039 a great. Point it depends on What austin sees in 2106 01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:48.239 market in a twenty eight, okay twenty, eight still a young. 2107 01:39:48.279 --> 01:39:53.079 Man but what's the in? Reality what is the timetable 2108 01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:57.840 That danny And austin And ryan have put? Forth is 2109 01:39:57.880 --> 01:40:01.560 this a two, year three, year five ye year because 2110 01:40:01.560 --> 01:40:05.039 at that time The jazz reached a high level in The. 2111 01:40:05.079 --> 01:40:09.520 West is marketing played himself out right of the contract 2112 01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:13.399 and the value that he actually has right. Now he's 2113 01:40:13.399 --> 01:40:16.600 a unique, talent you would, agree being a seven footer 2114 01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:19.199 can stretch the floor and still work himself. Inside BUT 2115 01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:22.199 i think if they stay with the big front line 2116 01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:27.479 In philipowski And walker And, lowry that is intimidating and 2117 01:40:27.520 --> 01:40:33.000 there's some talent. There the biggest question is, turnovers which 2118 01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:36.640 WERE i mean JUST i mean they averaged twenty and 2119 01:40:36.720 --> 01:40:39.640 a half or nearly twenty one a game last. Year 2120 01:40:39.680 --> 01:40:40.920 don't have it in front of, me but there were 2121 01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:44.680 nights that we were calling, out you, know twenty seven 2122 01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:49.159 turnovers and you can't have that and give your opposition twenty, 2123 01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:52.279 plus you, know extra possessions a. GAME i still think 2124 01:40:52.439 --> 01:40:55.319 great teams have great point, guards AND i think that's 2125 01:40:55.359 --> 01:40:57.800 where you. Start you have to make a decision On 2126 01:40:57.880 --> 01:41:00.239 keyante AND i think you have to you, know, WELL 2127 01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:02.279 i think we were a little bit wowed With Isaiah 2128 01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:05.000 callier getting the call in the second half of the 2129 01:41:05.039 --> 01:41:08.880 season and the speed and. DETERMINATION i think some leadership 2130 01:41:08.960 --> 01:41:14.159 popped out That Will hardy needs drastically spence with a young, 2131 01:41:14.199 --> 01:41:16.960 team somebody has to be the, alpha AND i saw 2132 01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:18.760 a little bit of that start to come out Of 2133 01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:21.119 isaiah at the end of the season when he was 2134 01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:24.159 given the. Opportunity you remember he said AT usc kind 2135 01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:26.920 of in the behind the light of a guy Named Bronnie, 2136 01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:30.039 James and now he's got an opportunity to kind of 2137 01:41:30.039 --> 01:41:33.600 prove who he is and that kind of. Exciting do 2138 01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:35.479 they stay with him or is he a guy they 2139 01:41:35.479 --> 01:41:39.199 bring off the. Bench SO i think tonight's PICK i 2140 01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:43.399 personally out of be most likely a backcourt player with 2141 01:41:43.479 --> 01:41:48.279 some defensive of capability that can spark a, team AND 2142 01:41:48.600 --> 01:41:50.920 i think he's got to have an alpha personality as. 2143 01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:54.680 Well you, know that's my, take AND i think the 2144 01:41:54.760 --> 01:41:59.600 front line. Solid John collins still has the option on 2145 01:41:59.640 --> 01:42:03.880 his and he's played his tailoff last year when given 2146 01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:07.159 the opportunity after he finally kind of decided who he 2147 01:42:07.479 --> 01:42:10.359 was and what Will hardy needed out of. Him but 2148 01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:14.800 that's a twenty six million dollar decision that The jazz 2149 01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:19.520 can either say okay or maybe. Not After, John i'm 2150 01:42:19.520 --> 01:42:21.640 sure he's gonna take. It, SPENCE i doubt he's gonna 2151 01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:25.399 get half that on the open, Market so it's gonna 2152 01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:27.239 be interesting to see how that all works. Out BUT 2153 01:42:27.239 --> 01:42:29.880 i think the front line is, strong, guard, play, wing, 2154 01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:30.920 play still in. 2155 01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:34.680 Need all, Right, bowler let's move over to your thoughts 2156 01:42:34.680 --> 01:42:37.800 on simply a. Rumor you, know and look in this 2157 01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:41.279 day and age of aggregation and this person pretending to 2158 01:42:41.319 --> 01:42:43.760 be AN nba insider and that person just starting a. 2159 01:42:43.800 --> 01:42:45.760 BLOG i don't really know what to make a lot 2160 01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:47.960 of the a lot of these, rumors BUT i don't know, 2161 01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:50.680 either yeah for, sure and there may be nothing here at, 2162 01:42:50.720 --> 01:42:53.279 All and you, know part of me would really love 2163 01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:57.159 to see some boldness. Tonight then there's part of me 2164 01:42:57.199 --> 01:43:00.680 that understands pragmatically that this is a long game scenario 2165 01:43:01.239 --> 01:43:03.359 and that top eight draft pick is something you need 2166 01:43:03.399 --> 01:43:06.279 to hang on, to and it's probably more, likely this 2167 01:43:06.439 --> 01:43:09.720 is my, guess in my, opinion that we won't see 2168 01:43:09.720 --> 01:43:13.079 anything super bowld this, offseason but we will next off 2169 01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:16.560 season when some of the salaries expire and some of 2170 01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:18.920 the young players maybe show some. Promise but there are 2171 01:43:19.039 --> 01:43:22.600 people that have BEEN i hate to even say, reporting 2172 01:43:22.680 --> 01:43:25.079 but you, know there's a lot of synergies between The 2173 01:43:25.119 --> 01:43:28.199 celtic front office and The jazz front. Office danny Hired Brad. 2174 01:43:28.239 --> 01:43:31.119 Stevens austin worked Under brad for the past number of. 2175 01:43:31.199 --> 01:43:34.479 Years While danny was out, Here Will hardy Coached Jalen 2176 01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:36.800 brown as he was the number one assistant For Emi. 2177 01:43:36.920 --> 01:43:40.079 UDOKA i don't think it makes sense to bring in 2178 01:43:40.079 --> 01:43:42.239 A Jalen brown unless you're able to hold on To 2179 01:43:42.359 --> 01:43:45.359 lowry and hold on To walker and probably even hold 2180 01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:48.239 on to, five, Right and SO i don't know what 2181 01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:50.560 The jazz would send To. BOSTON i really, don't AND 2182 01:43:50.600 --> 01:43:52.920 i don't know That boston WHICH i wouldn't Trade Jalen. 2183 01:43:52.960 --> 01:43:55.600 Brown but that's just. Me but if the framework of 2184 01:43:55.640 --> 01:43:58.359 a deal makes sense and is on the. Table do 2185 01:43:58.399 --> 01:44:00.920 you feel like The jazz you would pull the trigger 2186 01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:02.640 to bring in A Jalen, Brown because if you do 2187 01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:04.479 bring in A Jalen brown and you hold on A, 2188 01:44:04.520 --> 01:44:07.119 walker you hold on A, lowry you're able to hold 2189 01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:07.640 on a number. 2190 01:44:07.640 --> 01:44:09.840 Five you're not one of the eight worst teams in the. 2191 01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:10.399 League you're just. 2192 01:44:10.439 --> 01:44:12.520 Not so you're going to lose that pick next. Year 2193 01:44:12.560 --> 01:44:14.399 so do you think something like that does make? 2194 01:44:14.439 --> 01:44:20.359 Sense Pers that may be the biggest answer the question 2195 01:44:20.479 --> 01:44:24.640 and the answer that faces A jazz. Tonight and you know, 2196 01:44:24.720 --> 01:44:27.800 what the comment about taking The celtics down to The 2197 01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:31.720 studs because Of tatum's injury is. Intriguing we wouldn't have 2198 01:44:31.800 --> 01:44:37.119 this conversation If tatum was, Healthy and because that combination 2199 01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:40.720 Of brown And tatum is, dynamic And Derek white and 2200 01:44:40.960 --> 01:44:45.399 you know that That's, BOSTON i thought would Have, yes 2201 01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:47.920 they would take a step back because of the injury To, 2202 01:44:47.960 --> 01:44:50.359 tatum BUT i thought they would just kind of make 2203 01:44:50.399 --> 01:44:53.520 their way for another. Run it's really an intriguing, thought 2204 01:44:53.560 --> 01:44:55.800 is it not that you would want to strip a 2205 01:44:55.840 --> 01:44:58.800 team down because of an? Injury and, yeah he was hurt, 2206 01:44:58.880 --> 01:45:00.960 late so he's going to be out for twelve, months 2207 01:45:01.880 --> 01:45:04.159 they're going to be careful with. Him and then you 2208 01:45:04.239 --> 01:45:06.840 have to think, about you, Know Jalen brown and what 2209 01:45:06.920 --> 01:45:07.640 is he nine years? 2210 01:45:07.640 --> 01:45:08.399 In or is That? 2211 01:45:08.439 --> 01:45:10.720 Tatum but you, know again it comes to how much 2212 01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:14.039 longer and how valuable and what value does he have? 2213 01:45:14.199 --> 01:45:17.800 Back the connection is. INTERESTING i will say that if 2214 01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:21.920 that would happen, tonight it pushes A jazz forward in 2215 01:45:22.000 --> 01:45:25.840 hyperdrive in my. Opinion the other part of that, is 2216 01:45:25.880 --> 01:45:28.239 does a veteran like him or any player around the 2217 01:45:28.279 --> 01:45:32.000 league with that type of, credential does that make a 2218 01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:34.960 younger player even perk up and play? BETTER i would 2219 01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:38.039 probably say. Yes the other part of this, equation in my, books, 2220 01:45:38.119 --> 01:45:41.439 fence is if The jazz kind of state pat and 2221 01:45:41.479 --> 01:45:43.640 they do want to protect the eighth, spot and they 2222 01:45:43.640 --> 01:45:46.119 do pick up the two players or three or four 2223 01:45:46.800 --> 01:45:49.920 and the other two tomorrow, night you've got to make 2224 01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:52.800 some roster moves obviously to fill to fit them all. 2225 01:45:52.840 --> 01:45:56.840 In but the other part of this equation, is, yes 2226 01:45:56.880 --> 01:46:01.079 they could protect the eight by still playing the younger. Players, 2227 01:46:01.159 --> 01:46:05.079 yes they could win seventeen. More they could be a 2228 01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:08.840 thirty let's, say a thirty win team and just just 2229 01:46:09.039 --> 01:46:13.479 miss giving up the eighth spot To Oklahoma, city but 2230 01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:16.920 yet still gain valuable experience and you get a better 2231 01:46:16.960 --> 01:46:19.840 feel of who you, are who, says who goes? Right 2232 01:46:19.840 --> 01:46:23.920 and next, summer with a very loaded, draft you make 2233 01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:27.640 even your More boulder. Moves so there's options. There BUT 2234 01:46:28.079 --> 01:46:29.800 i think the question is how fast you want to 2235 01:46:29.840 --> 01:46:31.159 accelerate the, process don't? 2236 01:46:31.199 --> 01:46:31.279 You? 2237 01:46:32.760 --> 01:46:35.159 Yeah AND i don't think it's ready to be. Accelerated 2238 01:46:35.279 --> 01:46:38.159 but The jalen thing is interesting because he is good 2239 01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:40.439 enough that if you hold on To, lowry and if 2240 01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:43.319 you hold on To, walker and if you draft let's 2241 01:46:43.359 --> 01:46:47.359 Say Trey johnson Or Jeremiah fears at, Five taylor comes back, 2242 01:46:47.399 --> 01:46:50.079 Healthy cody makes a little, progress puts on some. Weight 2243 01:46:50.199 --> 01:46:53.720 keante decides he wants to try to Guard isaiah comes 2244 01:46:53.720 --> 01:46:56.359 back and knocks down threes at a higher clip Like. 2245 01:46:57.119 --> 01:47:00.319 Craig if they can Acquire jalen and hold on to 2246 01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:03.279 some of their main pieces and the framework, like the 2247 01:47:03.319 --> 01:47:05.960 only Way boston does this is if they are all 2248 01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:08.520 in on simply saving money, mode because a trade that 2249 01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:11.119 could work As collins And clarkson And sexton and a 2250 01:47:11.119 --> 01:47:14.039 bunch of picks For, Jalen and if you do, that 2251 01:47:14.760 --> 01:47:17.239 we Have we've we got, Something, greg we do now 2252 01:47:17.279 --> 01:47:19.760 you do sacrifice eight next, year but maybe it's worth 2253 01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:21.600 it if you can get a star player Like Jalen 2254 01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:22.960 brown at the age of twenty, eight. 2255 01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:26.920 You, Know. Spence the other part of this is we 2256 01:47:26.960 --> 01:47:32.600 really don't know the financial mentality of the new ownership 2257 01:47:32.640 --> 01:47:35.920 of The. Celtics they went for six point one and 2258 01:47:35.960 --> 01:47:38.920 The lakers just went for. Ten the value of who 2259 01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:42.319 The lakers and the name brand ten, billion pardon, me 2260 01:47:42.680 --> 01:47:47.039 and six point one. BILLION i wonder what the ownership 2261 01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:49.039 if they're gonna. TRY i would, think if you're gonna 2262 01:47:49.039 --> 01:47:51.039 take The celtics and The, lakers you've got to play, 2263 01:47:51.039 --> 01:47:55.960 ball right or why even purchase such a an iconic. 2264 01:47:56.079 --> 01:47:59.680 Franchise But i'm anxious to, see you know, What money 2265 01:47:59.760 --> 01:48:02.119 still is the bottom, line and they don't want to 2266 01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:05.520 get into the second, Apron so that is. Intriguing if 2267 01:48:05.560 --> 01:48:08.840 they would dump a salary Of Jalen brown to try 2268 01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:12.479 to break it to The studs While tatum recovers and 2269 01:48:12.479 --> 01:48:16.520 then reset their reset probably isn't anything close anywhere near 2270 01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:18.520 close to what The jazz would be faced with because 2271 01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:22.000 free agency and players would flock To boston because of 2272 01:48:22.119 --> 01:48:24.359 just who they. Are but, MAN i, say you bring 2273 01:48:24.439 --> 01:48:26.680 up an interesting, conversation and you know, What we're going 2274 01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:29.039 to get some answers here in the next two to four. 2275 01:48:29.079 --> 01:48:31.840 Hours all, Right, butler BEFORE i set you, loose let's 2276 01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:36.199 tap into that sharp sharp in the, mature you, know 2277 01:48:36.319 --> 01:48:38.880 just sixth sense of. YOURS i want The Craig, Bowler jack, 2278 01:48:38.960 --> 01:48:41.520 gut what is? It what does it tell? You what 2279 01:48:41.640 --> 01:48:43.399 is your sixth sense to tell you your north? 2280 01:48:43.399 --> 01:48:43.840 Star tell? 2281 01:48:43.840 --> 01:48:45.760 You did they drafted five and twenty? One or do 2282 01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:46.279 we see some? 2283 01:48:46.359 --> 01:48:51.039 MOVEMENT i think we go five and. Fifteen that's just. 2284 01:48:51.159 --> 01:48:54.079 ME i think THERE'S i Think Austin age may make 2285 01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:58.840 an impact in this draft. TONIGHT i know it won't 2286 01:48:58.840 --> 01:49:02.520 Be cooper flag, FIVE i Can that's my. Insight. There 2287 01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:05.039 here's just something to think, About. SPENCE i want to 2288 01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:06.319 get your quick. THOUGHT i know you got to. Go 2289 01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:10.800 but Does canipple does he disrupt the top five pick 2290 01:49:10.880 --> 01:49:14.159 by any? Chance is he a domino that could change 2291 01:49:14.199 --> 01:49:16.000 things even for The? Jazz? 2292 01:49:17.880 --> 01:49:19.039 YEAH i MEAN i like. 2293 01:49:19.159 --> 01:49:22.039 HIM i just don't, know like it feels like a 2294 01:49:22.079 --> 01:49:26.079 player Like Ace bailey has more ceiling. POTENTIAL i Think 2295 01:49:26.119 --> 01:49:28.520 COLIN i think con excuse, ME i Think Conk nipple 2296 01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:30.960 is going to be like a good solid ten to 2297 01:49:31.039 --> 01:49:33.560 twelve YEAR nba vet and a pro who can shoot 2298 01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:35.920 it and guard on the. Perimeter BUT i just like 2299 01:49:36.359 --> 01:49:39.680 and maybe he ends up being a steadier piece Than Ace. 2300 01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:41.920 Bailey but If ace was able to reach his, potential 2301 01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:43.920 it feels like he has more like maybe he can 2302 01:49:43.960 --> 01:49:47.239 be one of those dudes potential because of all the 2303 01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:51.000 intoxicating traits he has and. Measurements But, canipple to, me 2304 01:49:51.359 --> 01:49:53.399 is more of a safe pick for a team that's 2305 01:49:53.439 --> 01:49:55.960 actually ready to. Win The jazz needs star power And 2306 01:49:55.960 --> 01:49:57.199 i'm not Sure canipple has star. 2307 01:49:57.279 --> 01:50:00.880 Power, yeah, yeah, no he's kind OF i have a toolbox, 2308 01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:03.159 GUY i get. It the only REASON i bring that 2309 01:50:03.279 --> 01:50:07.279 up is, Obviously Will coach played a duke Alongside. Flag you, 2310 01:50:07.279 --> 01:50:09.119 know he got so much hype and he's done well 2311 01:50:09.239 --> 01:50:13.760 in in. Workouts Ace bailey refused to work. Out that 2312 01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:16.600 just personally doesn't set well with, me BUT i get 2313 01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:19.279 how it works. Today you, know you saw me. Play 2314 01:50:19.319 --> 01:50:21.720 you know WHO i, am and he does have freakish 2315 01:50:21.760 --> 01:50:26.119 measures of six.' eight you Know The trey johnson young Man, 2316 01:50:26.159 --> 01:50:29.840 from texas a, little smaller but still, you know, a 2317 01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:33.920 great a, great athlete and you know the Kid From. 2318 01:50:34.079 --> 01:50:37.000 RUTGERS ace, I mean i've written down a couple of, 2319 01:50:37.159 --> 01:50:40.760 you know names that they respond or at least compare, 2320 01:50:40.840 --> 01:50:43.000 him To And Michael porter junior was ONE that i. 2321 01:50:43.079 --> 01:50:45.680 RAN across i thought that was kind of intriguing. As 2322 01:50:45.720 --> 01:50:49.000 well and then there was an Outside Chance jeremiah fears 2323 01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:52.039 may may Be a jazz selection. As WELL so i 2324 01:50:52.039 --> 01:50:54.560 think there's two or three names that are real potential 2325 01:50:54.680 --> 01:50:58.439 unless something drops early and then that first domino drops 2326 01:50:58.439 --> 01:51:01.159 and it could change, you know a. Whole complexity but 2327 01:51:01.880 --> 01:51:03.920 that's why we go through this. Every SUMMER and, i, 2328 01:51:03.960 --> 01:51:06.720 think again this is one of the biggest biggest Drafts 2329 01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:09.359 The jazz, i've had if not, the biggest Especially with 2330 01:51:09.439 --> 01:51:13.520 austin three weeks into a new job At the helm 2331 01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:16.560 in the war room tonight making some very big decisions for. This, 2332 01:51:16.640 --> 01:51:18.279 franchise bowler you're. 2333 01:51:18.319 --> 01:51:20.279 The man enjoy. The night we'll get you back on 2334 01:51:20.359 --> 01:51:21.439 soon to break. 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Bench show back in, the day 2407 01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:51.560 our producer was a young Man Named jason shepherd Who 2408 01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:55.319 wore gene shorts AND loved lds. Boy bands shef is 2409 01:54:55.359 --> 01:54:57.439 now with our FRIENDS AT, byu tv as is our 2410 01:54:57.479 --> 01:54:59.920 next guest friend of, The Program, spencer linton On a. 2411 01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:03.680 WEDNESDAY afternoon i know at some point you may have 2412 01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:05.760 tried Out For, jericho ROAD because i know you have an. 2413 01:55:05.760 --> 01:55:08.920 Excellent voice at, SOME point i know you were rocking 2414 01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:14.239 A Little. Jay, road yeah. 2415 01:55:12.520 --> 01:55:13.000 Truth, Be. 2416 01:55:13.159 --> 01:55:16.600 Told spence that's the First time i've ever heard, that 2417 01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:19.920 Song and i've never been more pleased to announce something in. 2418 01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:23.319 My, life okay, all right, Fair, ENOUGH look i know 2419 01:55:24.039 --> 01:55:25.720 we gotta be quick with, you today so let's dig. 2420 01:55:25.760 --> 01:55:28.760 INTO it i have a macro, Question. First spencer then 2421 01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:32.159 we'll dig into some topics in. A vacuum, you know 2422 01:55:32.640 --> 01:55:35.600 six years ago and my old producer actually sent out 2423 01:55:35.600 --> 01:55:37.800 a Tweet because i'd forgotten i'd made. This comment but six, 2424 01:55:37.840 --> 01:55:41.439 years ago when the RUMORS of nil started to surface 2425 01:55:42.039 --> 01:55:44.800 and the potential of deep pocketed donors to make a 2426 01:55:44.840 --> 01:55:48.359 difference in athletic departments became somewhat of. A reality, i 2427 01:55:48.399 --> 01:55:53.560 said this is, a massive massive piece of potential ADVANTAGE. 2428 01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:57.119 For byu this is something they can utilize and capitalize 2429 01:55:57.119 --> 01:55:59.600 on in addition all the other THINGS that byu brings 2430 01:55:59.640 --> 01:56:02.199 to be able to kind of get an edge that 2431 01:56:02.239 --> 01:56:04.680 they haven't had for quite. Some time so for a, 2432 01:56:04.720 --> 01:56:07.000 long time about a decade, or so there was an 2433 01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:10.560 innate Advantage for UTAH over byu simply BECAUSE of p 2434 01:56:10.680 --> 01:56:14.279 five INCLUSION with pac twelve vers independence and now the 2435 01:56:14.319 --> 01:56:15.560 playing field is not. 2436 01:56:15.680 --> 01:56:17.800 Just even it feels like the momentum is shifted. 2437 01:56:17.840 --> 01:56:20.239 Down south why do You think BYU's been able to 2438 01:56:20.279 --> 01:56:23.239 capitalize on this era to add so many talented players 2439 01:56:23.239 --> 01:56:24.000 both basketball. 2440 01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:25.000 And, football. 2441 01:56:26.520 --> 01:56:31.199 Yeah getting the right coaches in place and on the 2442 01:56:31.239 --> 01:56:35.760 Heels Of kevin young and a winning Season With kolone 2443 01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:37.960 Sataki And kevin young taking the basketball team To the 2444 01:56:37.960 --> 01:56:40.560 sweet sixt team like that first and foremost, to me 2445 01:56:41.800 --> 01:56:44.239 it has to be stated like you have to win 2446 01:56:44.920 --> 01:56:48.920 for your boosters to consistently get behind you, and, say 2447 01:56:49.039 --> 01:56:53.000 okay there, are results this. Is fun we like what. Is, 2448 01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:57.880 happening also the MOMENTUM of byu finally being invited Into 2449 01:56:57.920 --> 01:57:03.720 a power for conference had the fan base very excited 2450 01:57:04.079 --> 01:57:07.000 and exuberant to want to get involved. 2451 01:57:06.520 --> 01:57:07.319 In any way that. 2452 01:57:07.359 --> 01:57:11.000 They can so those, two things being involved and invited 2453 01:57:11.119 --> 01:57:15.279 finally after so many years to the big. Boy table 2454 01:57:15.600 --> 01:57:17.760 granted you're not in a prime spot at that, table 2455 01:57:17.840 --> 01:57:20.359 yet but you're still At the power. For table and 2456 01:57:20.399 --> 01:57:26.159 then winning that breeds naturally a lot. Of excitement and 2457 01:57:26.199 --> 01:57:30.920 then you have boosters that believe and went and Fought 2458 01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:33.479 For kevin young to get him From The phoenix suns 2459 01:57:33.520 --> 01:57:36.199 as an ASSISTANT to byu and then to keep HIM 2460 01:57:36.439 --> 01:57:39.960 at byu just a few months ago when things really, 2461 01:57:40.039 --> 01:57:41.760 ramped UP or i should say a few weeks ago 2462 01:57:42.239 --> 01:57:44.840 when it kind of got strange Because the sun's job 2463 01:57:44.920 --> 01:57:48.319 opened up and THERE were. Nba, opportunities again like these, 2464 01:57:48.439 --> 01:57:51.560 these boosters they know a winner when they. See One 2465 01:57:51.680 --> 01:57:55.560 kevin young is. Clearly that And What kalani satake is 2466 01:57:55.600 --> 01:57:59.359 doing in building his culture and trying to find guys 2467 01:57:59.399 --> 01:58:01.920 that are the, right fit but trying to get the 2468 01:58:01.960 --> 01:58:04.760 top tier members Of the Church Of, jesus Christ the 2469 01:58:04.800 --> 01:58:08.760 Latter day Saints and yesterday's five star quarterback signing is 2470 01:58:08.760 --> 01:58:12.880 a huge boost in. That direction like all these things 2471 01:58:12.920 --> 01:58:17.119 combining have created this this really really big wave of 2472 01:58:17.239 --> 01:58:22.279 momentum and so but it starts with winning and finally 2473 01:58:22.760 --> 01:58:24.840 being at a power for a level because there's just 2474 01:58:24.960 --> 01:58:28.319 so much excitement and there's a. Real Passion brian santiago 2475 01:58:28.359 --> 01:58:31.359 the athletic area to, keep saying it's never, been better 2476 01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:34.239 never been a better time to be involved in this 2477 01:58:34.319 --> 01:58:37.680 athletic department and with, this team and with the momentum, 2478 01:58:37.720 --> 01:58:40.960 That's happening like there's just so much juice and passion, 2479 01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:44.439 and excitement and that starts with being at the big 2480 01:58:44.479 --> 01:58:49.439 boy table and then delivering some really fun winning seasons. 2481 01:58:49.199 --> 01:58:52.119 And also being able to pay these players on par 2482 01:58:52.399 --> 01:58:54.600 or if not more than. Other schools VIA Ni, l 2483 01:58:54.680 --> 01:58:57.199 spencer it is okay that we say that, Out loud. 2484 01:58:58.159 --> 01:59:03.439 No, No question i'm, with you and it's legal. Right there, 2485 01:59:03.640 --> 01:59:07.880 the network the NETWORK at byu to, your point has always. 2486 01:59:08.000 --> 01:59:12.239 Been there it's. Been Fantastic mark pope has has set 2487 01:59:12.239 --> 01:59:13.760 a couple of times, like hey we. Need more when 2488 01:59:13.760 --> 01:59:15.319 he WAS, At bua, he's like we need, more support 2489 01:59:15.359 --> 01:59:18.159 we need more. TIME fence i don't know that the 2490 01:59:18.199 --> 01:59:21.079 boosters Believed in mark the way that they Do In 2491 01:59:21.199 --> 01:59:23.760 kevin young and connected. With him it just there was 2492 01:59:24.119 --> 01:59:27.680 a little bit of a. Disconnect Somewhere So, kevin young to, 2493 01:59:27.800 --> 01:59:33.279 his credit has helped bridge that gap and make it 2494 01:59:33.399 --> 01:59:36.680 more likely for the big money boosters to get behind 2495 01:59:36.840 --> 01:59:40.640 him to even. Greater capacity, but yes it's always. Been 2496 01:59:40.680 --> 01:59:44.199 there now that, it's legal, they're, saying well why. Wouldn't 2497 01:59:44.199 --> 01:59:46.880 we we love, the school we love, the program, They're 2498 01:59:46.920 --> 01:59:49.920 winning we like these coaches and players that they're. Bringing, 2499 01:59:49.920 --> 01:59:51.439 in yeah sign. 2500 01:59:51.520 --> 01:59:54.239 Me up so if, it's legal. Do it. 2501 01:59:54.479 --> 01:59:58.079 That's fine like now it becomes an arms race in, 2502 01:59:58.119 --> 02:00:02.199 that capacity and it's. Totally okay, so yes nil is 2503 02:00:02.239 --> 02:00:03.319 a huge part of it. 2504 02:00:03.359 --> 02:00:03.520 As. 2505 02:00:03.520 --> 02:00:06.560 Well, well, look MAN like i was raised By a, 2506 02:00:06.560 --> 02:00:08.800 MORMON capitalist i was raised BY an. 2507 02:00:08.880 --> 02:00:10.399 Lds, Capitalist, okay like. 2508 02:00:10.720 --> 02:00:14.479 It is a religion and a culture that understands the 2509 02:00:14.479 --> 02:00:18.199 power of. The purse, tell me help me understand where 2510 02:00:18.239 --> 02:00:22.279 the messaging, comes from where there's from my prism and, My, 2511 02:00:22.359 --> 02:00:26.880 perspective spencer a certain faction of people that work for 2512 02:00:26.920 --> 02:00:30.560 the school or love the school that simply refuse to say, 2513 02:00:30.560 --> 02:00:34.479 out loud yes it's, About, winning yes it's about. P, 2514 02:00:34.680 --> 02:00:38.319 four yes it's ABOUT the. Byu, Experience yes Kevin and klonie, 2515 02:00:38.319 --> 02:00:42.880 are elite but it's also about the ability to be 2516 02:00:43.000 --> 02:00:46.840 very competitive and yes sometimes the higher bidder to be 2517 02:00:46.920 --> 02:00:50.079 able to attract these players to come play basketball and FOOTBALL. 2518 02:00:50.079 --> 02:00:52.199 At byu help. 2519 02:00:52.039 --> 02:00:55.119 Me understand the deal where there's messaging in certain, circles 2520 02:00:55.159 --> 02:00:57.560 that from, my prism seem to be very reluctant to 2521 02:00:57.680 --> 02:00:58.600 just even say that. 2522 02:00:58.720 --> 02:00:59.560 Out, loud. 2523 02:01:00.840 --> 02:01:01.039 Yeah. 2524 02:01:01.520 --> 02:01:06.319 GREAT question i think there is such a negative connotation associated, 2525 02:01:06.359 --> 02:01:11.640 WITH well byus just buying. The players that's the only 2526 02:01:11.800 --> 02:01:14.880 reason that THEY'RE. Choosing byu why would you ever GO? 2527 02:01:14.960 --> 02:01:18.439 To byu clearly they're chasing. A bag i think people 2528 02:01:18.520 --> 02:01:22.479 are so hesitant to admit that they do, have competitive 2529 02:01:22.760 --> 02:01:27.640 if NOT elite nil and boosters, behind this because there 2530 02:01:27.720 --> 02:01:31.079 is this faction of social media, that, says well nobody 2531 02:01:31.119 --> 02:01:33.960 WOULD pick byu if it weren't for, the money AND 2532 02:01:34.000 --> 02:01:36.439 so i guess THAT'S why i throw in the. Other 2533 02:01:36.560 --> 02:01:42.079 things it's a. Package deal the nil and money is 2534 02:01:42.119 --> 02:01:45.560 a big part of that and a huge arm of 2535 02:01:45.600 --> 02:01:48.000 that in making that. Wheel spin if you take, it 2536 02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:51.800 away it. Wouldn't GO but i think that people are 2537 02:01:51.800 --> 02:01:56.560 hesitant and the faction you reference are hesitant to talk 2538 02:01:56.600 --> 02:02:00.840 about money because they don't want to somehow minimum how 2539 02:02:00.880 --> 02:02:04.680 important the coaching, arm is the, winning arm, the experience 2540 02:02:04.760 --> 02:02:09.239 the transformative experience they're promising ATHLETES at byu to become 2541 02:02:09.279 --> 02:02:12.159 greater men and, greater women and. The education they want 2542 02:02:12.239 --> 02:02:15.319 all of the arms to get their. Equal due and 2543 02:02:15.399 --> 02:02:19.720 so with this negative, connotation, around well it's only because of. 2544 02:02:19.720 --> 02:02:22.359 The money that's probably why they shift away. From that 2545 02:02:22.720 --> 02:02:25.520 i'm here to tell you that it's just one incredibly 2546 02:02:25.640 --> 02:02:29.279 important arm in this wield that makes the whole thing. 2547 02:02:29.319 --> 02:02:30.479 Push forward you know. 2548 02:02:30.520 --> 02:02:33.439 What's interesting first, of all the good news is social media, 2549 02:02:33.520 --> 02:02:37.199 isn't real so he can just put. That aside, You 2550 02:02:37.239 --> 02:02:40.279 Know sam harris is The Podcaster. Sam herris have you heard? Of, Him, 2551 02:02:41.479 --> 02:02:45.239 Yes okay i'm a. BIG fan i like the way, 2552 02:02:45.279 --> 02:02:48.119 HE thinks i like the way. He communicates and a 2553 02:02:48.159 --> 02:02:52.800 couple of, years ago After mister musk's Takeover, of acts 2554 02:02:53.720 --> 02:02:56.640 he elected To exit stage left and he did this 2555 02:02:56.800 --> 02:02:58.680 hour and a half podcast and why it was the 2556 02:02:58.720 --> 02:03:02.520 best decision he. Ever made, AND look i. Check it, 2557 02:03:02.680 --> 02:03:04.760 you know that's where we've got the. Draft tonight i'm 2558 02:03:04.800 --> 02:03:07.239 waiting for news on the jazz maybe. Doing Something but 2559 02:03:07.279 --> 02:03:09.960 i'll tell, you, What, man EVER since i pretty much left, 2560 02:03:09.960 --> 02:03:14.319 the platform you realize how small, It is you realize 2561 02:03:14.319 --> 02:03:16.359 how irrelevant, it is you KNOW what? I mean so 2562 02:03:16.560 --> 02:03:19.920 like the people that ARE dragging byu for adding, TALENT 2563 02:03:20.000 --> 02:03:21.119 online i just. 2564 02:03:21.079 --> 02:03:22.880 Don't give them. Any. Credence man maybe it's. 2565 02:03:22.920 --> 02:03:28.159 Just, me, WELL man i wish more people thought, Like. 2566 02:03:28.239 --> 02:03:32.199 You spence and this is not. A, JOKE literally i 2567 02:03:32.279 --> 02:03:36.119 was sitting in my car about thirty. Minutes ago IT'S 2568 02:03:36.119 --> 02:03:39.079 because i had been chided by some friends about kind 2569 02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:41.239 of disappearing on, social media, like hey how come you're 2570 02:03:41.239 --> 02:03:43.479 not posting? As much like where'd? You go like are 2571 02:03:43.520 --> 02:03:47.119 you on? Summer vacation and it's a purposeful move by 2572 02:03:47.119 --> 02:03:50.159 me to just take, a break take, A Breath like i'm. 2573 02:03:50.159 --> 02:03:52.760 WITH you i still, check IT but i don't FEEL 2574 02:03:52.760 --> 02:03:56.840 like i need to constantly. Post stuff i'm involved with 2575 02:03:56.920 --> 02:03:59.800 shows that post content with me involved all. The time 2576 02:03:59.800 --> 02:04:02.119 that good enough for me for in. Large PART but 2577 02:04:02.199 --> 02:04:05.000 i was literally being chided and kind of ribbed. For 2578 02:04:05.439 --> 02:04:10.159 DISAPPEARING but i feel free to, A Degree so i'm 2579 02:04:10.199 --> 02:04:12.680 going to join you in. LINE there i think there 2580 02:04:12.720 --> 02:04:17.399 is there's real power. In That and i'm not saying 2581 02:04:17.439 --> 02:04:20.920 THAT that i feel the negativity from social media, per 2582 02:04:20.960 --> 02:04:23.520 se but it is a very, real ELEMENT and, I 2583 02:04:23.560 --> 02:04:26.439 wish i wish more people could see a big picture 2584 02:04:26.520 --> 02:04:29.520 like you, are presenting whereas, you can you can talk 2585 02:04:29.560 --> 02:04:32.640 about this nil just because there are fans from angry 2586 02:04:32.640 --> 02:04:36.000 opposing fan bases around the conference and around, the country 2587 02:04:36.159 --> 02:04:39.079 Whether it's oregon who's in the battle For The rider 2588 02:04:39.239 --> 02:04:42.560 lions movement he GOES, to byu or it's it's other 2589 02:04:42.600 --> 02:04:44.079 big twelve schools who, are. 2590 02:04:44.039 --> 02:04:45.680 Saying oh SEE b a just because of. 2591 02:04:45.720 --> 02:04:48.560 The money like, you're right it is a very very 2592 02:04:48.680 --> 02:04:52.920 loud and obnoxious vocal minority and the grand scheme. Of 2593 02:04:52.960 --> 02:04:56.119 things And so i'm going to try and be better 2594 02:04:56.239 --> 02:05:00.199 at that and not give the type of credence that 2595 02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:04.399 a lot of people do to this social media wave because. 2596 02:05:04.439 --> 02:05:08.479 It's okay it's OKAY for byu to have incredible boosters 2597 02:05:08.520 --> 02:05:12.039 and support and money and the backing that they do 2598 02:05:12.399 --> 02:05:16.119 all under a. Legal scope now where this is within. 2599 02:05:16.239 --> 02:05:18.960 The rules so let's go ahead and flex where we 2600 02:05:19.039 --> 02:05:22.079 have never been able to flex and do, this thing, you. 2601 02:05:22.039 --> 02:05:24.359 Know the other gift you give yourself before you move 2602 02:05:24.359 --> 02:05:26.479 off of this because only you have a couple of. 2603 02:05:26.520 --> 02:05:30.119 MINUTES left i did a podcast last week and the guy, Was, 2604 02:05:30.159 --> 02:05:31.159 like hey you're getting. 2605 02:05:31.199 --> 02:05:32.439 Killed online how does that make. 2606 02:05:32.439 --> 02:05:34.640 You feel, i'm like didn't, see it, no idea or you, 2607 02:05:34.680 --> 02:05:39.720 get aggregated, no clue like you just freedom is, the 2608 02:05:39.760 --> 02:05:42.359 biggest the, Best term like when you're getting. Attacked online 2609 02:05:42.399 --> 02:05:44.479 if you don't, see it it doesn't, really happen. 2610 02:05:44.279 --> 02:05:49.520 Doesn't he it doesn't. Even, exist, yes yes if. 2611 02:05:49.359 --> 02:05:51.520 The tree falls in the forest and no one's around 2612 02:05:51.520 --> 02:05:53.439 to hear it or, see it does it actually? Fall? 2613 02:05:53.640 --> 02:05:57.159 Exactly yeah, great point. Great point, all right a couple. 2614 02:05:57.199 --> 02:05:58.560 Things here we'll end With The. 2615 02:05:58.600 --> 02:06:01.359 Lion's kid but before we, get there the only local 2616 02:06:01.439 --> 02:06:04.920 player that is kind of surrounding with some intrigue during 2617 02:06:04.920 --> 02:06:07.800 the draft Process. Is yegor we've had a couple of 2618 02:06:07.920 --> 02:06:11.560 draft experts on the. Show today what are you? Hearing about, 2619 02:06:11.760 --> 02:06:14.600 you know the feedback he's received during this process and 2620 02:06:14.640 --> 02:06:16.119 potentially where we could hear his name. 2621 02:06:16.159 --> 02:06:16.960 Called Tonight. 2622 02:06:18.439 --> 02:06:22.119 So i've spent significant time Communicating with yegor's Camp And 2623 02:06:22.520 --> 02:06:26.000 travis hanton. And others Travis's with Yegor And brooklyn tonight 2624 02:06:26.119 --> 02:06:28.359 and has been a huge part Of why yegor IS 2625 02:06:28.359 --> 02:06:32.039 at byu and his whole, experience there and FROM what 2626 02:06:32.159 --> 02:06:35.720 i have gathered from the combine and from interviews and 2627 02:06:35.840 --> 02:06:39.239 Everything that yegor has done in this really just endless 2628 02:06:39.239 --> 02:06:43.079 process to. Get ready it feels like there are five 2629 02:06:43.359 --> 02:06:48.159 teams that are the, most Interested and i'll list them 2630 02:06:49.119 --> 02:06:53.680 in order of where they pick first, To last starting 2631 02:06:53.800 --> 02:06:57.840 With The. Houston rockets they were at, number ten but 2632 02:06:57.960 --> 02:07:00.680 they obviously traded that pick To The fee suns With 2633 02:07:00.760 --> 02:07:05.680 The kevin, durant exchange So the Yegor to houston feels 2634 02:07:05.760 --> 02:07:08.239 less likely now that they don't have that. Tenth Pick 2635 02:07:08.399 --> 02:07:11.960 The portland trailblazers are a team that's been very interested. 2636 02:07:12.359 --> 02:07:16.359 In Him The chicago bulls, at Twelve The atlanta hawks, 2637 02:07:16.399 --> 02:07:21.319 at thirteen And The, brooklyn nets who have five first. 2638 02:07:21.439 --> 02:07:26.720 ROUND picks i believe they pick what eighth. And Nineteen 2639 02:07:27.920 --> 02:07:30.479 the wizards are in. THERE too i don't think they 2640 02:07:30.479 --> 02:07:32.680 Would take jegor as early. AS six i know they. 2641 02:07:32.680 --> 02:07:35.520 PICK eighteenth i don't think he's gonna slip. To eighteen 2642 02:07:36.479 --> 02:07:38.760 would be a surprise to see. Him there but those are, 2643 02:07:38.840 --> 02:07:42.760 the teams so it feels like he's gonna go somewhere 2644 02:07:42.800 --> 02:07:51.800 between eleven and. MAYBE seventeen i think most likely looking 2645 02:07:51.800 --> 02:07:54.079 at the teams and the conversations that, have happened his, 2646 02:07:54.199 --> 02:07:58.560 skill set the need for a point guard to help out, 2647 02:07:58.680 --> 02:08:01.960 Right now i'm looking at twelve With The chicago Bulls 2648 02:08:01.960 --> 02:08:04.520 for yegor to join a Guy Like josh diddy and 2649 02:08:04.640 --> 02:08:07.279 help out that point guard line and the combo garden 2650 02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:10.600 and his distribution and, passing ability Or The atlanta Hawks 2651 02:08:10.600 --> 02:08:13.720 With trey Young like atlantic could really use a big 2652 02:08:14.079 --> 02:08:18.199 Guard with yegor's. Skill set i've heard that scouts have 2653 02:08:18.239 --> 02:08:22.079 been very impressed in his individual workouts with his shot 2654 02:08:22.239 --> 02:08:24.920 and the progress that he has made his higher. Release 2655 02:08:25.079 --> 02:08:29.079 point he's worked relentlessly to prove to people that he 2656 02:08:29.159 --> 02:08:31.760 is a better shooter than, we saw. 2657 02:08:31.720 --> 02:08:33.960 Especially early in his CAMPAIGN. 2658 02:08:34.000 --> 02:08:35.960 At byu he got better later in. 2659 02:08:35.920 --> 02:08:37.119 The season but they don't talk. 2660 02:08:37.159 --> 02:08:39.760 About that they, just, think ah, you know twenty nine 2661 02:08:39.800 --> 02:08:44.920 percent or twenty seven percent. Rebot. Shooter yikes he has worked, so. Hard, 2662 02:08:45.119 --> 02:08:48.800 tirelessly really that's Where The travis anton youth to get 2663 02:08:48.840 --> 02:08:51.119 better at, his shot and he has impressed. Some people 2664 02:08:51.520 --> 02:08:56.319 so my Best guess Chicago twelve atlanta, at thirteen because 2665 02:08:56.479 --> 02:08:59.279 both of those teams Really like yegor has invested a 2666 02:08:59.279 --> 02:09:02.039 lot of time into him and he can immediately fit 2667 02:09:02.119 --> 02:09:02.720 into their. 2668 02:09:02.760 --> 02:09:05.479 Specific rosters, all RIGHT before i said, you LOSE because 2669 02:09:05.479 --> 02:09:07.079 i know you got, To run so be as short as, 2670 02:09:07.079 --> 02:09:10.079 you want tell me about. The process The landed rider 2671 02:09:10.199 --> 02:09:14.560 Lions in provo to PLAY. For byu, AND look, i 2672 02:09:14.600 --> 02:09:16.399 mean we won't see him for a. Few years there's a. 2673 02:09:16.439 --> 02:09:19.479 Mission thing but what sort of a quarterback prospect? Is 2674 02:09:19.520 --> 02:09:20.680 he and what's the buzz down There? 2675 02:09:20.720 --> 02:09:23.000 In, provo gosh you know? 2676 02:09:23.039 --> 02:09:26.399 What's Crazy is he referenced On the pat McAfee show 2677 02:09:26.399 --> 02:09:29.239 that he got his first scholarship offer in eighth grade 2678 02:09:29.760 --> 02:09:33.760 and that WAS. From byu he got a scholarship off 2679 02:09:33.800 --> 02:09:36.600 From the coops when he, was THIRTEEN and i remember 2680 02:09:36.720 --> 02:09:40.239 vaguely hearing about that, and, thinking wow are we really starting? 2681 02:09:40.279 --> 02:09:44.279 This early but clearly they saw something in him that, 2682 02:09:44.439 --> 02:09:48.199 was SPECIAL and byu was paying attention to his, older 2683 02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:50.720 brother and there was connections to, the family and obviously 2684 02:09:50.720 --> 02:09:52.760 he's a member Of the Church Of jesus Christ of Latter. 2685 02:09:52.800 --> 02:09:56.600 Day saints and there's been a huge Emphasis from kolani 2686 02:09:56.680 --> 02:10:00.279 and his staff to be way more competitive in going 2687 02:10:00.319 --> 02:10:03.800 and getting the best members of the faith because they 2688 02:10:03.800 --> 02:10:07.000 have lost out in recent years for the Likes of 2689 02:10:07.479 --> 02:10:12.439 Utah and OREGON and Usc and power five schools On the, 2690 02:10:12.479 --> 02:10:16.000 west coast and then it's slipping into sec Territory with 2691 02:10:16.119 --> 02:10:21.039 Alabama an Ole miss so the emphasis has been we 2692 02:10:21.159 --> 02:10:23.600 have to figure out a way to go and get 2693 02:10:23.720 --> 02:10:27.399 the best guys that fit, our culture that grew up 2694 02:10:27.439 --> 02:10:30.159 in the religion and make this a place for them 2695 02:10:30.199 --> 02:10:32.399 to want. To be so there was a huge push 2696 02:10:32.439 --> 02:10:37.000 there to accommodate his desire to serve a mission for 2697 02:10:37.079 --> 02:10:39.039 however long that mission is going. To be i've heard 2698 02:10:39.079 --> 02:10:41.720 everything from a year to, fourteen months to a year 2699 02:10:41.720 --> 02:10:43.600 and a half to a fall. Two years we, don't 2700 02:10:43.640 --> 02:10:45.920 know but he does want to serve a mission for 2701 02:10:45.960 --> 02:10:48.720 at least some length. OF time byu is clearly a 2702 02:10:48.760 --> 02:10:53.479 place that can help him, do that and they had 2703 02:10:53.800 --> 02:10:57.159 enough of a. Number financially oregon came in at the 2704 02:10:57.239 --> 02:10:59.439 last minute and offered. MORE money i don't know what 2705 02:10:59.479 --> 02:11:02.239 to figure. It WAS all i was told was in 2706 02:11:02.279 --> 02:11:05.880 That realm oregon offered more MONEY. Than byu but it 2707 02:11:05.920 --> 02:11:08.920 was not just about a strict dollar sign and about 2708 02:11:08.960 --> 02:11:12.640 getting the, most money way bigger for somebody who is 2709 02:11:12.760 --> 02:11:15.960 a member of the faith and has a long History, 2710 02:11:16.000 --> 02:11:19.000 with byu going back to his first scholarship offer in. 2711 02:11:19.119 --> 02:11:21.760 Eighth grade they love what he can do on. THE 2712 02:11:21.800 --> 02:11:26.479 field i hear a Lot Of zach, wilson COMPARISONS and 2713 02:11:26.560 --> 02:11:29.359 i hate to even say this one because people will, 2714 02:11:29.399 --> 02:11:31.760 be like oh, My, gosh spencer, stop it stop. The 2715 02:11:31.840 --> 02:11:35.399 hyperbole but he's a, bigger kid six two and, twenty 2716 02:11:35.439 --> 02:11:38.199 pounds and he's a, physical. 2717 02:11:37.760 --> 02:11:40.560 RUNNER so i heard in a slight Way Like. 2718 02:11:40.680 --> 02:11:44.479 Jalen Hurts So zach wilson a little Bit Of jalen 2719 02:11:44.560 --> 02:11:47.840 hurts in the way, he plays but. Very confident he 2720 02:11:47.880 --> 02:11:50.920 has got a, rocket arm and he's, a really really. 2721 02:11:51.039 --> 02:11:54.039 Capable runner, IN fact i watched, this TAPE but i 2722 02:11:54.079 --> 02:11:56.720 thought there were flashes a little bit of a Guy Like, 2723 02:11:56.800 --> 02:12:00.239 jackson dart especially with him being a. Bigger frame so 2724 02:12:01.319 --> 02:12:04.359 that's the type of player. He is bya, Worked Relentlessly 2725 02:12:04.760 --> 02:12:08.000 chad lewis, TOLD me i mean probably four years ago 2726 02:12:08.039 --> 02:12:10.199 when he was. A freshman i don't know what it's going, 2727 02:12:10.279 --> 02:12:11.840 to take but we have to get that GUY. 2728 02:12:11.880 --> 02:12:15.039 To byu we have to get that GUY, to byu and. 2729 02:12:15.000 --> 02:12:19.239 He wasn't really LOOKING at byu seriously at, the time 2730 02:12:19.319 --> 02:12:21.920 after his sophomore year in. High SCHOOL like byu wasn't 2731 02:12:21.960 --> 02:12:23.680 in his, top five they probably weren't even in this. 2732 02:12:23.800 --> 02:12:28.399 Top ten but the shift to power for, conference boosters, 2733 02:12:28.760 --> 02:12:32.760 nil money the, right culture the right connection with his family, 2734 02:12:32.800 --> 02:12:35.439 and faith it all kind of, came together And Now 2735 02:12:35.840 --> 02:12:40.600 ryder lyons is a five star QUARTERBACK. At byu, all, right. 2736 02:12:40.560 --> 02:12:41.000 Buddy well. 2737 02:12:41.000 --> 02:12:43.560 Good perspective it is an exciting time, down there a 2738 02:12:43.600 --> 02:12:46.159 lot of momentum in the, positive DIRECTION so i appreciate 2739 02:12:46.199 --> 02:12:46.840 the color. 2740 02:12:46.880 --> 02:12:49.199 And context have a great week man with, Chat. Soon 2741 02:12:49.239 --> 02:12:51.239 okay always. 2742 02:12:50.920 --> 02:12:52.840 Good to talk. To you thank you for freeing my 2743 02:12:53.039 --> 02:12:54.840 mind in the social media around. 2744 02:12:54.880 --> 02:12:57.600 My friend i'm here, For You, spencer lynton to be Your, 2745 02:12:57.640 --> 02:13:00.920 north star to Be, your leah to Be your leah. 2746 02:13:00.960 --> 02:13:03.439 In life anything you need you let. 2747 02:13:03.479 --> 02:13:07.239 Me, know okay Let's Go, Jericho road let's go, Love. 2748 02:13:07.119 --> 02:13:08.520 It spencer letting our BUDDY FROM. 2749 02:13:08.560 --> 02:13:12.119 BYU tv byu dialing in the highest rated prospect they've 2750 02:13:12.119 --> 02:13:14.560 had since two thousand and two at the, quarterback position 2751 02:13:15.319 --> 02:13:18.079 That Player, ben olsen who didn't work OUT. At Byu 2752 02:13:19.439 --> 02:13:22.199 happy wednesday. To You Happy draft day. To YOU The 2753 02:13:22.319 --> 02:13:25.880 nba draft begins in fifty five minutes and nine seconds from, 2754 02:13:25.920 --> 02:13:28.760 right now and we will have the best draft coverage 2755 02:13:28.800 --> 02:13:30.640 for you in. THE market i can promise You that 2756 02:13:30.680 --> 02:13:32.680 i'm going to be anchored. Our coverage We Have, Richard 2757 02:13:32.720 --> 02:13:38.239 smith Gordy Chiasa liven studio combined ninety years, of experience 2758 02:13:38.359 --> 02:13:44.079 literally ninety years of experience analyzing prospects and drafting prospects in. 2759 02:13:44.119 --> 02:13:47.640 Pro Basketball The utah jazz as of now are sitting 2760 02:13:47.680 --> 02:13:50.600 at number five and number. Twenty one no draft day, 2761 02:13:50.600 --> 02:13:54.239 trades Yet But john collins has opted in to his 2762 02:13:54.439 --> 02:13:57.760 contracts for this, upcoming season about twenty six million. 2763 02:13:57.800 --> 02:14:00.239 In change so that was a piece. Of news it 2764 02:14:00.319 --> 02:14:01.720 came down the mock drafts. 2765 02:14:01.479 --> 02:14:03.840 That are out Have the jazz Taking Either, Trey Johnson, 2766 02:14:03.920 --> 02:14:05.720 jeremiah Fears Kan, ka Nipple Or. 2767 02:14:05.720 --> 02:14:08.920 Ace bailey so. Stay tuned we bounced around a little. 2768 02:14:08.920 --> 02:14:10.479 Bit today we've done a lot, of draft a LOT 2769 02:14:10.520 --> 02:14:13.039 of nba started things Off With Tim bond temps Live 2770 02:14:13.079 --> 02:14:16.960 in Brooklyn. At Barclay's raphael Barlows dot buy Stuck In 2771 02:14:17.000 --> 02:14:19.159 New york city traffic on his Way, To Brooklyn new 2772 02:14:19.239 --> 02:14:22.279 York At. Barclays center just did a little college Football With. 2773 02:14:22.319 --> 02:14:24.479 Spencer linton you're gonna hear from the voice Of The, 2774 02:14:24.560 --> 02:14:27.520 Utah Jazz Craig, bowler jack and then we will launch 2775 02:14:27.560 --> 02:14:30.119 into our live coverage OF The nba draft beginning at. 2776 02:14:30.159 --> 02:14:32.880 Six o'clock but joining me live in studio very, special guest, 2777 02:14:32.960 --> 02:14:37.479 once again My guy Gavin From Honest Second opinion plumbing On. A, 2778 02:14:37.479 --> 02:14:38.880 Wednesday Gavin Happy, draft. 2779 02:14:38.960 --> 02:14:40.640 Day buddy how? You Doing Happy? Draft day i'm. 2780 02:14:40.640 --> 02:14:41.159 Doing great how? Are? 2781 02:14:41.159 --> 02:14:41.560 You spencer? 2782 02:14:41.560 --> 02:14:43.359 SO good i know you're A big utah, Football fan 2783 02:14:43.399 --> 02:14:45.279 but DOES The nba draft move the needle for you? 2784 02:14:45.319 --> 02:14:45.600 At all? 2785 02:14:45.720 --> 02:14:49.680 YOU know i h after, LAST season i just like 2786 02:14:49.760 --> 02:14:50.960 to get more than. Twenty wins. 2787 02:14:51.039 --> 02:14:53.880 Fair enough, it's, Tough man, it's tough like a Lot 2788 02:14:53.880 --> 02:14:56.800 of jazz fans waiting for something that gives. 2789 02:14:56.840 --> 02:14:59.279 Them hope, That's right That's what. I'm, doing yeah. 2790 02:14:59.000 --> 02:15:01.199 And we've been spoiled did. Our market we've had really 2791 02:15:01.199 --> 02:15:03.000 good teams for a, long time so we'll see what they. 2792 02:15:03.039 --> 02:15:05.039 Do tonight, All, right gavin HERE'S where i want to 2793 02:15:05.079 --> 02:15:08.039 start On A Second. Opinion plumbing give me the. Origin 2794 02:15:08.119 --> 02:15:10.800 story why did you decide to. Do, this, no, Right 2795 02:15:10.840 --> 02:15:14.760 absolutely so it all started eight, Years. AGO spence i 2796 02:15:14.920 --> 02:15:18.279 was sitting in my house wintertime and the furnace turned 2797 02:15:18.319 --> 02:15:21.079 OFF and i wasn't sure why it would turn off. 2798 02:15:21.119 --> 02:15:23.920 TURN on i wasn't, working well AND so i called 2799 02:15:24.000 --> 02:15:27.840 a really WELL known hvac Company. In utah they, came 2800 02:15:27.880 --> 02:15:30.800 out they looked, at it and the guy spent three 2801 02:15:30.800 --> 02:15:33.159 and a half hours in my home selling me ON 2802 02:15:33.239 --> 02:15:36.800 why i needed a completely BRAND new, hvac system a. 2803 02:15:36.840 --> 02:15:40.039 New furnace, you know it's only gonna be five, thousand dollars, 2804 02:15:40.199 --> 02:15:42.560 you know not a. Big, deal yeah only, five thousand 2805 02:15:42.920 --> 02:15:44.479 and we'll get you a brand. New one, you know 2806 02:15:44.520 --> 02:15:47.840 this one's way. Too old and so after three and a, 2807 02:15:47.880 --> 02:15:49.520 HALF hours i was just texting my WIFE and i, 2808 02:15:49.560 --> 02:15:51.239 was like please come, save me like get me out, 2809 02:15:51.239 --> 02:15:52.720 of THIS like i want him gone out of. 2810 02:15:52.720 --> 02:15:56.439 Our house and then he. FINALLY left i looked on, 2811 02:15:56.560 --> 02:15:59.840 you know just for a local handyman. Called one he. 2812 02:16:00.079 --> 02:16:03.439 Came over he checked out the furnace and he looked 2813 02:16:03.439 --> 02:16:05.800 at the flame sensor rod. In there he cleaned it 2814 02:16:05.800 --> 02:16:07.439 with some, steel wool put it, back in and the 2815 02:16:07.439 --> 02:16:09.960 furnace worked for another, eight years and so it's like 2816 02:16:10.079 --> 02:16:12.800 he charged me fifty bucks and. Then left it took, 2817 02:16:12.960 --> 02:16:15.479 you know all but. Twenty minutes and THAT'S when i, 2818 02:16:15.520 --> 02:16:17.399 realized that, you Know when i've got a problem in, 2819 02:16:17.479 --> 02:16:20.680 my home there's there's two. Big, ISSUES one i want 2820 02:16:20.680 --> 02:16:23.239 to Make sure i'm finding the right, Person RIGHT like 2821 02:16:23.319 --> 02:16:26.960 i it took me how long to FIND the? Hvac company, 2822 02:16:27.000 --> 02:16:29.640 YOU know i was googling trying to, find somebody looking. 2823 02:16:29.640 --> 02:16:31.960 At reviews it's just it's. 2824 02:16:31.760 --> 02:16:33.639 A PAIN, and i, YOU know, I like i'm already 2825 02:16:33.719 --> 02:16:35.440 upset that my furnace, isn't working AND so i don't 2826 02:16:35.440 --> 02:16:37.399 want to spend the time to go and. Do that 2827 02:16:37.680 --> 02:16:38.920 and then the second THING is i don't want to 2828 02:16:38.920 --> 02:16:40.479 be taken to. The cleaners, YOU know i don't want 2829 02:16:40.520 --> 02:16:42.280 somebody selling me a whole new SYSTEM because i DON'T. 2830 02:16:42.319 --> 02:16:44.680 Know hvac and so, IT'S like i don't need somebody 2831 02:16:44.680 --> 02:16:47.040 selling me a whole new system WHEN all i needed 2832 02:16:47.079 --> 02:16:49.239 was to clean the flame. Rod sensor and so that's 2833 02:16:49.280 --> 02:16:51.840 that's what, we're doing, you know with with your, Plumbing 2834 02:16:51.879 --> 02:16:54.959 issues we're going to put you in contact with a trusted, 2835 02:16:54.959 --> 02:16:57.840 referral partners somebody that can fix. Your problem without you 2836 02:16:57.920 --> 02:17:00.680 having to spend hours or days trying to coordinate with 2837 02:17:00.719 --> 02:17:02.680 them to get them to. Your house and then we're 2838 02:17:02.719 --> 02:17:05.399 also going to come and help diagnose the problem and 2839 02:17:05.440 --> 02:17:06.120 give you an idea of what. 2840 02:17:06.159 --> 02:17:06.319 It's. 2841 02:17:06.399 --> 02:17:09.200 LIKE see i love THIS because i think we all 2842 02:17:09.239 --> 02:17:12.319 can relate to a scenario where we're just not educated 2843 02:17:12.360 --> 02:17:15.159 about something that is wrong with, our car or something 2844 02:17:15.159 --> 02:17:17.079 that is wrong with, our house or something that is 2845 02:17:17.120 --> 02:17:19.879 wrong with, our, teeth right whatever, it is and we 2846 02:17:20.000 --> 02:17:22.120 just don't want to be sold a bill. Of goods 2847 02:17:22.239 --> 02:17:25.479 just be honest and quote me the right Price and 2848 02:17:25.520 --> 02:17:28.479 i'm happy to, pay that but don't. Upsell me and 2849 02:17:28.559 --> 02:17:30.879 it sounds like you've kind of landed in this lane, 2850 02:17:30.920 --> 02:17:33.360 where yes you're running, a business but you also want 2851 02:17:33.360 --> 02:17:35.600 to help people avoid pitfalls that we all tend to. 2852 02:17:35.639 --> 02:17:36.520 Fall in is that fair? 2853 02:17:36.559 --> 02:17:36.600 To? 2854 02:17:36.639 --> 02:17:39.360 Say exactly, and so and that's when we WERE when 2855 02:17:39.399 --> 02:17:41.760 i was debating about starting, this company, you know and 2856 02:17:41.760 --> 02:17:43.920 this is a, new company, you know it's only a few. 2857 02:17:43.920 --> 02:17:47.600 Months old but, you know we, thought, about well let's perform. 2858 02:17:47.639 --> 02:17:50.280 The service but the issue, became, is well how can 2859 02:17:50.319 --> 02:17:53.120 we make sure that we're not using our own self 2860 02:17:53.159 --> 02:17:56.159 interest when we're quoting. Things out, you know like EVEN 2861 02:17:56.200 --> 02:17:58.399 if i can, say HONEST if i start hiring other 2862 02:17:58.440 --> 02:18:01.719 people within, my company are they going to? Be honest because, 2863 02:18:01.840 --> 02:18:05.719 you know these, trades workers, they're great but the more, 2864 02:18:06.000 --> 02:18:09.239 you pay the more they, get paid so they're incentivized 2865 02:18:10.200 --> 02:18:12.440 to charge. You More like that's that's what it boils. 2866 02:18:12.440 --> 02:18:14.360 Down to and so THAT'S when, i decided you, know 2867 02:18:14.399 --> 02:18:17.479 what instead of fixing, the problem we're gonna go ahead 2868 02:18:17.479 --> 02:18:19.399 and diagnose, the problem, you know be able to give 2869 02:18:19.399 --> 02:18:21.399 you the exact same advice we'd give our, own mothers 2870 02:18:22.120 --> 02:18:25.239 without any sort of. Ulterior motives and then we'll put 2871 02:18:25.280 --> 02:18:27.520 you in contact with people that. We trust and we 2872 02:18:27.520 --> 02:18:30.159 were refreshing this. List constantly. You know if if we 2873 02:18:30.200 --> 02:18:33.079 trust somebody but then we start hearing some, negative feedback 2874 02:18:33.159 --> 02:18:35.280 we take them off, our list, You know and so 2875 02:18:35.319 --> 02:18:37.680 we give people a chance to prove. 2876 02:18:37.719 --> 02:18:40.200 Their trustworthiness and you're putting your money where your. 2877 02:18:40.200 --> 02:18:43.559 Mouth is because we are sixty six days away from 2878 02:18:43.680 --> 02:18:47.079 Kickoff for, utah football tell our listeners what you're doing 2879 02:18:47.120 --> 02:18:49.719 for them between now and Kick FOR. Utah ucla. 2880 02:18:49.799 --> 02:18:52.000 That's right so if you have a plumbing issue right 2881 02:18:52.040 --> 02:18:55.200 now between Now in, august thirtieth we will come and 2882 02:18:55.239 --> 02:18:57.680 do the diagnosis. For free so we always start with 2883 02:18:57.719 --> 02:19:00.680 an over the. Phone diagnosis see if we can solve 2884 02:19:00.719 --> 02:19:03.120 the issue just through a. Quick FaceTime if, we can't 2885 02:19:03.159 --> 02:19:05.760 we'll come out to. Your home normally we charge, you 2886 02:19:05.760 --> 02:19:08.680 know twenty dollars for that face time or fifty dollars 2887 02:19:09.120 --> 02:19:11.159 to come out to. Your home right Now until, august 2888 02:19:11.239 --> 02:19:13.680 thirtieth we will do it. For free so, any issue 2889 02:19:13.680 --> 02:19:15.440 if you wanted to get a new, water heater a 2890 02:19:15.440 --> 02:19:18.200 new tankless, water heater you, got leaks you got, you know, 2891 02:19:18.280 --> 02:19:20.479 toilet problems whatever, it is you give us a call 2892 02:19:20.559 --> 02:19:22.319 or go to our website and we'll hook it. 2893 02:19:22.399 --> 02:19:23.879 For free so That is. 2894 02:19:23.920 --> 02:19:26.440 Intel kick so you only have limited time to do 2895 02:19:26.520 --> 02:19:28.479 that you just. ALLUDED to i want to ask you 2896 02:19:28.559 --> 02:19:31.000 another question here because the name of the company is 2897 02:19:31.000 --> 02:19:33.520 on a second. Opinion plumbing and, Forgive me i'm not 2898 02:19:33.520 --> 02:19:37.520 A big, hvac guy but you don't only do, plumbing 2899 02:19:37.639 --> 02:19:40.159 Issues right there are several services you offer right. 2900 02:19:40.079 --> 02:19:42.879 So right now we are focused, with plumbing but we 2901 02:19:42.920 --> 02:19:45.600 do want to, you know expand AND, do hvact do 2902 02:19:45.680 --> 02:19:51.079 electrical you know, the, doorframes, windows balconies, you. Know landscaping 2903 02:19:51.159 --> 02:19:52.760 so we are trying to get it to the point 2904 02:19:52.760 --> 02:19:55.840 where anything that you have an issue with so honest 2905 02:19:55.879 --> 02:19:58.000 second opinion for your home is really what we're trying. 2906 02:19:58.000 --> 02:19:59.479 To do anything that you have an issue with, Your 2907 02:19:59.479 --> 02:20:01.760 home we're trying to get the professionals that can give 2908 02:20:01.799 --> 02:20:04.040 you an, honest diagnosis tell you what a price range, 2909 02:20:04.040 --> 02:20:06.200 would be and then put you in contact with somebody 2910 02:20:06.239 --> 02:20:07.719 that can come and, fix it so that way you're 2911 02:20:07.719 --> 02:20:10.239 only stopping at. One place you get the knowledge that 2912 02:20:10.280 --> 02:20:12.000 you need to empower yourself to be able to take 2913 02:20:12.040 --> 02:20:14.239 care of, the problem and then you're put in contact 2914 02:20:14.239 --> 02:20:16.479 with one person or, you know maybe one or two 2915 02:20:16.520 --> 02:20:17.360 people that could fix. 2916 02:20:17.399 --> 02:20:20.280 The problem before we get to the, CONTACT information i 2917 02:20:20.360 --> 02:20:22.600 know that you have already been able to help some 2918 02:20:22.680 --> 02:20:26.280 people really save thousands of dollars based off. This approach 2919 02:20:26.319 --> 02:20:27.799 so let's hear about a testimonial. 2920 02:20:28.280 --> 02:20:28.760 Or two you know. 2921 02:20:28.879 --> 02:20:33.040 Absolutely so we actually just had about two, weeks ago 2922 02:20:33.079 --> 02:20:36.000 we had a couple that called in and they were 2923 02:20:36.079 --> 02:20:38.959 quoted a repipe on, their home which when we got 2924 02:20:39.000 --> 02:20:41.920 there made. Perfect sense the pipes, were corroded there was leaks, 2925 02:20:41.920 --> 02:20:45.159 going on and eighteen thousand dollars was what the repipe, 2926 02:20:45.239 --> 02:20:47.159 was quoted so, not cheap but when we looked, at 2927 02:20:47.159 --> 02:20:48.639 it the size of, the house the amount of work 2928 02:20:48.639 --> 02:20:51.120 that it, would take that that was accurate to what 2929 02:20:51.159 --> 02:20:53.879 we would quote. As well but then, what, happened though 2930 02:20:53.920 --> 02:20:56.440 is the company that came out said to get under 2931 02:20:56.479 --> 02:20:58.719 their crawl space in their house to finish. The repipe 2932 02:20:58.959 --> 02:21:01.559 it was going to cost the adfition twelve thousand dollars 2933 02:21:01.799 --> 02:21:04.440 because they would have to dig it out. By HAND so, 2934 02:21:04.520 --> 02:21:07.000 I went i looked at their cross SPACE and i 2935 02:21:07.200 --> 02:21:10.399 couldn't understand it because it looked like any normal crawl space. 2936 02:21:10.399 --> 02:21:12.600 To me AND so i, was, like well tell me about, 2937 02:21:12.600 --> 02:21:15.280 the plumber and, they're, like well he was a. Big 2938 02:21:15.319 --> 02:21:18.200 guy he was pushing over, three bills and so it 2939 02:21:18.239 --> 02:21:20.680 was just it was a matter of the guy couldn't fit, in, 2940 02:21:20.719 --> 02:21:22.799 there okay and so he was going to have to 2941 02:21:22.840 --> 02:21:25.399 pay twelve thousand dollars to get him. In there and 2942 02:21:25.440 --> 02:21:27.319 so we ended up connecting with some other plumbers that 2943 02:21:27.360 --> 02:21:30.280 could come. Out there they did the, re pipe save 2944 02:21:30.399 --> 02:21:30.760 them twelve. 2945 02:21:30.760 --> 02:21:32.879 Thousand dollars so that's. 2946 02:21:32.920 --> 02:21:35.479 THAT'S wild, i, mean look so if you guys have 2947 02:21:35.600 --> 02:21:39.680 plumbing problems and you're tired of being upsold and charge 2948 02:21:39.680 --> 02:21:42.920 thousands of dollars for things that you. Don't need definitely 2949 02:21:42.920 --> 02:21:46.040 get a hold of Aut At Second. Opinion, plumbing gavin 2950 02:21:46.079 --> 02:21:46.760 how did they get ahold? 2951 02:21:46.799 --> 02:21:49.239 Of you so there's two ways you can either go to. 2952 02:21:49.239 --> 02:21:51.719 Our website you can just. Google us if you Just 2953 02:21:51.799 --> 02:21:56.079 Google Honest Second, opinion plumbing you should be able to 2954 02:21:56.079 --> 02:21:58.239 find us there on that. 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Dot, 2965 02:22:24.079 --> 02:22:25.559 com gavin good to, see, You buddy good to see. 2966 02:22:25.559 --> 02:22:27.399 You too go utes two and we've. 2967 02:22:27.200 --> 02:22:28.879 Got to get out of here because coming up on the. 2968 02:22:28.879 --> 02:22:32.000 Other side it is our live coverage of the twenty 2969 02:22:32.040 --> 02:22:35.639 TWENTY Five nba draft live From The barclay Center, In Brooklyn, 2970 02:22:35.639 --> 02:22:39.680 New York, Gordy Chiasa, richard smith the combined like ninety 2971 02:22:39.760 --> 02:22:43.559 years of pro basketball talent evaluation experience coming. Your Way, 2972 02:22:44.120 --> 02:22:45.520 so porter let's get out of here so we can 2973 02:22:45.559 --> 02:22:47.280 do the draft stuff coming. Up next what comes our 2974 02:22:47.280 --> 02:22:49.120 way On a thursday edition of the. 2975 02:22:49.239 --> 02:22:49.959 Radio show On. 2976 02:22:49.959 --> 02:22:52.239 A thursday edition Of, the drive, of course we will 2977 02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:55.719 have the first round OF The nba draft to React 2978 02:22:55.719 --> 02:22:58.760 To Richard, Smithy smith we'll be in studio with you 2979 02:22:58.920 --> 02:23:01.319 to react. 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