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Speaker 1: Good morning, sports cards, fans, and welcome back to Hobby Hotline.

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It is the final Hobby Hotline of twenty twenty five,

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and it's been a great year for Hobby Hotline. It's

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been a great year in the hobby and today is

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going to be all good news, all good memories. So

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if you came for you know, gossip and all that

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kind of stuff, you're not going to get it here today.

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It's gonna be our end of the year wrap up,

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and you know, we're gonna have an opportunity to talk

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about all the good things we experienced. And I have

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a whole list of stuff from my vantage point, which

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is the vintage. But we're joined by very two very

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special guests. Chris, good morning, sir, how are you? And Brody?

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You and I have not done a Hobby Hotline together,

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but I'm happy to have you along. And how are

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you this morning, sir?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. It's nice to meet you.

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 4: I haven't been on it a couple of months, but

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I'm back and I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, all right, well we have let's say good

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morning to the chat we have well right now, we

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got twenty four but we're gonna get up much higher.

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Mad City brew was here before anybody. Good morning everyone.

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I hope you're having a great holiday week. Mine has

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been great, I know, Chris, maybe not so great because

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of some stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brody, I hope you had a great holiday

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week so far. That's me saying good morning, Good morning

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to Stuke, one of our regulars. There's Chris saying good morning, Philly. Joe,

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how are you happy holiday to you? Good morning to

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Chris from Missouri, Chris, how are you? Foul Ball is here?

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Coooter lev is here? Adam's card closet, How are you, Adam?

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Larry and Able in Vegas. Good to see Brodie. Absolutely so.

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We we're gonna swing it around the horn and try

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to talk about some good stuff that happened. Chris. I

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know you you know there's a lot of news in

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your part of the world, which well we'll leave for

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another day. I know some of it was talked about

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last week, but just from your vantage point as a collector,

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I know your history is as a longtime collector, tell

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us about some of the good stuff from twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Chris, Yeah, I mean there's a lot. I was just

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traveling to Detroit him on last week, and you know,

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you can't go through an airport now without seeing vending

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machines for sports cards and Pokemon cards, and just how

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present the hobby feels everywhere. You know, my kids and

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I I've been watching King of Collectibles the last couple

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of days and it's just gone so mainstream. The hobby

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reminds me very much. I used to like punk bands

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when I was growing up because they were, you know,

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not a lot of people would listen to them. They

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were kind of like, you know, your own little thing,

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and and then sometimes they'll blow up, like Blink one

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eighty two is a band that really, you know, started

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off small and independent and then became this selling out,

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selling out colosseums. And it feels like that's what the

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hobby is for me. Is it used to be this

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my own little, you know, cool little side side maybe

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not cool, my little side side thing, and then it's

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it's become so big now it's it's just crazy. So yeah,

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I think the biggest thing for me for twenty twenty

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five is that the industry. When fanatics came on the scenes,

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they talked about ten xing it, and we overall like

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putting that. But it's definitely bigger, and it's definitely a

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lot more in our face than it's ever been before,

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which is pretty wild.

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Speaker 1: I just noticed I had the Thanksgiving stuff off by

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the band.

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Speaker 5: Sorry about that, No worries. I was like, I'm thankful

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for this year.

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Speaker 1: So Brody, tell us about some of your your good

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memories from twenty twenty five in your in your Hobby experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there.

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Speaker 4: Was a lot of fun stuff this year. But one

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specific thing I have started to notice, which has been

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a thing going back to when I first started that

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we needed more of was hobby shops. And we are

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starting to get a lot of more local card shops

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and I see them everywhere. I used to have none

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that were by me. You know, there was a couple

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that were you a half hour, forty five minutes away.

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Now there's like five with twenty minutes. Like wow, there's

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a lot of new shops opening. It's awesome to see.

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It's like you talked about, the industry is booming. It's

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really cool.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm going to talk about Minton, but here Chris

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c And now that is not you, Chris, this is

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someone else named Chris cy picked up the fifty three

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Boeman color pierie Re is one of my favorite cars

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in the hobby, and finished the Cokefax run, the thing

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that I did a few so somebody near and dear

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to my heart. So my thing with vintage is that

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the shows are thriving card shows, and that's not just vintage,

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that's actually across the board. Card shows are absolutely thriving.

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And I was at Strongsville, which is now three years

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in a row, will be in in April, has gotten

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bigger and bigger and bigger. Philly is bigger than it's

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ever been, like it's exponentially growing, Shriners, this big Burbank

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is a big one. Dallas, Brody, you're a Dallas card

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show guy.

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Speaker 2: Right, No, I've never been there.

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Speaker 1: I almost know you. And then of course the National,

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which was pretty epic this year. So card shows to

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me have become this thing where you just like you

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could show up and you can get anything. And it's

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not just vintage, it's not just modern, it's not just TCG,

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Pokemon whatever. It's it's just like everything is there and

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they're around so much like we put we started. I

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started setting up at a Brooklyn show that didn't start

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in twenty five but really took off, and so that's

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like a new thing. So I think card shows are

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as healthy as they've ever been. Really.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it feels like the eighties honestly, when there were

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every holiday inn and every Hilton had a card show.

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Every the Red Lion used to have card shows. It's

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not hard to find them anymore, and that's just a

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really cool thing and I love. I guess that's one

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of my biggest blessings is I get to attend a

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lot of shows and that is so much fun when

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you get to walk the floor and find things that

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you wouldn't find in your normal market when you're at

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a show out of town, or able to find your

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local team at a discounted price if you're traveling. So

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I always think that's kind of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we got to talk about it for any show,

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but I think especially with the National two every year,

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it just seems like they had a new, huge room

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that's kind of crazy, and it just.

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Speaker 5: Feels the whole upstairs now is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, upstairs too, it's wild.

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Speaker 1: So the National this year had that upstairs, which people

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were not crazy about because it was packed in and

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there was all this extra yeah, yeah, but I think

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this year there that actually that out of the room

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is supposed to be like spread out again this year,

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so I think the Nationals would be bigger in twenty six.

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So any next, Chris, any any more twenty twenty five memories?

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You want to share with us the positive stuff?

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Speaker 5: Well, for me, one of my favorite things at the

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National this year is I brought my son for the

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first time, so he's he's twelve years old, and you know,

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adult life, and to share it with him was really cool.

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him work their booth for a little while because I

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was pretty busy at the National too, and he had

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the best time ever and negotiating cards and he just

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thought it was the coolest thing ever. So that that

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was a real gift when you get to enjoy the

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hobby with your family. And I see a lot of collectors,

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a lot of collectors who whose kids are not interested

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in their mom or dad's collection and it just breaks

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their heart. And I'm lucky both my boys have a

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real interest in the hobby, so we had a Carl

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and Family rip night last night. Even mom opened a

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box of Allen and Ginter and my son pulled this

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kick ass when McGregor Star Wars autograph. Well but you

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can see number five, which is pretty great. So he

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was doing laps around the house. It was. It was

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awesome to see. So I think when you can, when

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you can share the hobby with with family and friends,

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it becomes so much more special it just being your

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own private thing.

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Speaker 1: You know. Well, I'll just bring this up since we

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were on it. My kids brought me this book. It's

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about Raves Field, the original field in Boston where the

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Braves played, and it has a family connection since both

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of my kids went to Boston. Two of my kids

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went to Boston University and this this field is what's

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now part of Boston University. But they bought me this anyway, Brody,

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you know, it brings up a point I think Chris

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brings up a point is that I think younger people

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are getting into the hobby more. And when I go

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to you know, I go to the in particular White

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Plane Show has just an enormous amount of kids coming around.

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And it's not just kids with you know, with the

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Zion cases, but it's kids with their parents, kids with

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their friends, and it seems like, you know, we've always

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wanted to from vanished point of an older person, always

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wanted to make sure the hobby was left in good

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hands and that the youth were coming in and that

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they had the same sort of enthusiasm for it as

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we did. So how do you feel about that and

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the development of that in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen so many kids.

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Speaker 4: That show wasn't at card shops this year when I

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started taking twenty seventeen and it really got into it

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in twenty eighteen ish, there were.

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Speaker 2: Not many kids at those shows. I mean there weren't

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even that many people.

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Speaker 4: I mean a lot of the diehard collectors were at

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stuff like the National stuff, but there were not that

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many kids. There weren't that many females. But now you

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go to a card show or a card shop and

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you see it all. There are so many kids making trades,

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selling opening stuff like it's crazy and it's so nice

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to see because, like you said, we need to make

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sure that the kids can afford stuff, And yeah, I know,

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it's weren't a crazy time now where stuff is more expensive,

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but they're finding ways to enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Well. If that trend continues, that would be very welcome for,

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like I said, older persons like myself who want the

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hobby to be left in good hands. Another thing that

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I noticed from the vintage standpoint in twenty twenty five

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is we had a great year of fines. And what

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I mean by that is like the attic finds things

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that came out of the woodwork. There was a great

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right find of Rose postcards, which are super rare. They

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were upstate New York. There was a Kester bread find

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that included a Babe Ruth. And then our friend Layton

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Sheldon went down to Louisiana and discovered an entire collection

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of Red Cross back cards. He did some content on

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and we continue to see cards coming from Puerto Rico

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and in particular Venezuela. So like the whole concept that

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like all the vintage that exists is already out there

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is not true because because there's still addicts, there's still

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you know, trunks filled with you know, amazing fines and

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people keep finding them. That's just a great development in

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the hobby from twenty twenty five. And I went back

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and I researched it, and I found all these things

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and I remember them, but I wanted to make sure

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that I that I pointed out like the good stuff

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that had come out of the woodwork. And that's another

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great aspect of twenty twenty five that that really affected

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me positively in twenty twenty five. And I tried to

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get one of those Red Cross cards, but uh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was tough.

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Speaker 1: But what he did was everybody who contacted him privately,

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which included me, got a T shirt. So he went

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out and he got T shirts made with the Red Cross,

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you know, the just collect Red Cross, and then on

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the back it has like the the actual back the

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artwork from the back. And I was at the Philly

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Show and I was able to pick up my double

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X of that T shirt. And so he gave us all,

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it were. The other thing.

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Speaker 5: Have you I've noticed, we'll we'll on occasion see people

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bring us cards in old books and a lot of

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those vintage cards that they bring our our their own

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fines that that people used baseball cards as as bookmarks.

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Do you find that often.

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Speaker 1: Well, what we do find often are cards that were

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in albums, uh and have glue residue or maybe even

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paper loss on the back. Yes, sometimes it's a big

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deal because the card has been in an album for

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decades or century and the card ends up being show

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you what this Walter Johnson card which on the front,

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I'll show you just put myself on the front. It's

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absolutely amazing, I mean, centered, sharp everything, but the back

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has some paper loss where it was in an album,

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so there's still a lot of that. And then the

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cards are getting and that's what's happening a lot with

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the cards from from Venezuela and some of the other

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Central and South American countries is that they were in albums.

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All of them were in albums, and they're being soaked out.

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Sometimes that's successful. Sometimes it's not so successful. But you

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can end up with a card with a beautiful high

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I appeal front with you know, a little damage on

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the back, and it saves you tons of money because

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the great ends up being one or one and a

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half instead of what the front looks like, which is yeah, great,

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Yeah that does happen. I should mention. Yeah. This was

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pointed out that the biggest fine of the years was

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the to a six wagoner by Golden, which just showed

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up on publicly, you know, this week. So the other

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thing I wanted to talk about was market health, Like

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the card market is is booming as much as it's

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been since I guess twenty one or twenty two or

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maybe twenty two was the downswing, but like twenty twenty

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one when all that extra cash was out there and

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people had nothing to do but go on the internet

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and buy baseball cards. Now people have everything to do,

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but they're still buying baseball cards or sports cards. Market

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health in twenty twenty five strong. What do you feel

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about twenty twenty six for that.

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Speaker 5: Chris, Well, there's one trend I've noticed. It's been really interesting.

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When I worked at Upper Deck on the marketing team,

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we wouldn't even try to market to fourteen to twenty

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year old males because generally they would enjoy the hobby

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for those early years in their life, and then they

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would find out about girls, or get too busy with

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the school, or cards weren't cool enough for them, and

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then they would come back and we would try to

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remarket to them in their twenties and thirties in order

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to try to bring them back to the fold, and

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we would often be successful and then you know, they

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would share the hobby with their kids and the cycle

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goes on. But I'm not seeing I definitely noticed it

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this year more than ever is the amount of Brody's

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a fine example, the amount of teenage males that are

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proud and fired up about their collectibles and on Instagram

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and sharing everything there. And Brody, you can kind of

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probably talk about this too, But four years ago, five

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years ago, Brody, it was kind of just you at

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the National that Ades group. And now it's really boomed.

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So I'm curious your thoughts on Oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: I know so many friends that collect now and it's

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not even just like they open small stuff, have huge

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cards and they talk about it all the time and

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are trying to get other people, especially like Chicago teams

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around here.

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Speaker 2: Definitely a huge thing around me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And many of them do have these crazy cards,

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like you see a seventeen year old kid walking around

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with a Pelican case and you never know it's in it,

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you know, like it's it's it's wild, but it's it's

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a really good sign I think for the health of

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the hobby. If if if the industry doesn't lose those

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kids from fourteen to twenty two, imagine imagine how big

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this industry could be.

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Speaker 1: Brody, What do you think are like some of the

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ways that the hobby could continue to have, like youth

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people like you know, fourteen to twenty two and even

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late twenties stay in the hobby. Because I know I'm

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guilty of it. I left the hobby at least twice

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during my earlier years. You know, some of it had

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to do with, you know, just life experiences and having

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kids and you know, going to college back before I

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had kids, and you know, just sort of like you know,

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just it's it's a life cycle thing. But what do

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you think we can do to keep keep kids in

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in the hobby.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think a lot of the companies are doing

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a good job of it already because I think, you know,

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we see some of these like commercials and ads that

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tops of fanatics have run that are really centered towards

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families and kids that I think they're they're When I

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watched them the first time, it just was really cool.

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And I think, like we've mentioned, a lot of these

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kids have really high end cards and it's starting to

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become really cool to have these high end cards.

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Speaker 1: Well, money is never going to be uncools you've got

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if that's also you've beget a four or five digit

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card in your in your box, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 5: Gonna Yeah, it's a good thing to teach some of

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these kids that the value of a thinking you're on

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top of the world and then you know you've got

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to wonder Franco type or something like that. So it's, uh,

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it's good to learn about you know, when's the right

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time to sell, when's when's the time to invest more.

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I think it's all these are all good lessons for

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kids to have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. It's it's like I could say, yeah,

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I have I still have my Greg Jefferys cards that

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we're going to make me a millionaire. But you know,

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like you have to learn it yourself. I mean, you

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can't listening to me talk about like the seventies and

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eighties and all those cards that were going to make

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me a millionaire and send you know, send my kids

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to college. Like you have to understand it yourself. And

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as soon as you get one of those cards that

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you know is a four digit card and then the

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guy you know breaks his ankle or or you know,

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gets released or has an off year or whatever. You know,

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like who's the guy and who's the Arizona left handed

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hit or Rookie of the year guy who had a

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tremendous year and then just dropped off? What's his name?

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Somebody in the check can help me?

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Speaker 5: Arizona Carroll? Are you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Corbyn Carroll, who was the hottest thing in the

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world like years ago, fall off and so his cards

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just tanked. So you know what happens, Carol. There you go,

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Corby Carrol. Right, So yeah, market health party. What do

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you think about like the twenty twenty six for like

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market health issues.

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Speaker 4: I think the market is still gonna be great. I

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think it really helps with cards too. About with some

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of the people that are playing right now. I mean,

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Joey O'tani might arguably be the best baseball player ever,

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and I think a lot of people will say he is.

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People like Paul Skians are insane and there's just a

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very high market value for them because people are watching

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them pitch and two. On the baseball side, I think

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the World Baseball Classics coming up, and we're going to

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see all these people from different company for different countries

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that people might not see regularly, like my man Moon

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to Taco Murakami that's coming to my White Sox.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see him.

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Speaker 5: I hope it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still can't believe.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, there's a lot of great players, and you know,

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if you go back to some other years, there might

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not be the same.

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Speaker 2: Level of talent in the leagues as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is these are good guys too, you know,

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like Aaron Judge. I you know, I live in New York,

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so I see this guy all the time. He's just

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a good guy. He's a likable person. Same way with

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Showy show. Hey, you know, forget about the whole gambling

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thing and the and the interpreter and all that stuff,

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but like just a decent character, a likable guy. And

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a lot of these players are like that. So I

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think baseball has done a great job in turning these

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really high end players into positive ambassadors for the game.

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And that's something that I think. You know, if you

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buy a baseball card of a guy who's kind of

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an asshole, you're not in love with it. If you

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buy a baseball card of a guy who you really like,

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as a person, I think that helps the value.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I also think that, you know, that's one

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of the reasons why there's other there's other options for

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people to collect now too, which just made our industry

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so much bigger. So h someone in chat was mentioning

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TCG this year. It's the growth of things like Pokemon,

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where you know that the quote I always like is

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Pikachu is never gonna have a dui or charge ARD's

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never gonna you know, tear a a c L. You know,

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so these evergreen entertainment products, whether they be Pokemon or

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one piece a huge emerging category. Netflix is about to

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launch a second and third season of the live action

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show for that, and I expect that's gonna just keep

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that property going going crazy. But the other thing is

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there's so many things outside of sports too, like stranger things. Cards,

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you know, are are really cool now. I showed the

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the Star Wars card. Game of Thrones cards are still rocking,

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so the friends. You know that, there's there's all these

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emerging categories that you know, we used to maybe get

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one release of a year, and now there's all these

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different releases and it really feels like there's something for everyone.

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Now in the hobby and if if you're if you're

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frustrated with football and your favorite player getting hurt, like

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you have these other properties you could go to and

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and they're a lot safer with regard to risk of

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performance on the field and things along those lines. So

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I think that that has been a huge trend this

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year and and something that I think we'll see more

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and more of U as years go on is just

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more collecting options for where you want to what you

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want to collect, and uh, more safety in some of

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those entertainment and TCG products.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's also a really good point because as well

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as like w WE and a W wrappling cards, like

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six years ago, nobody really cared except you know, the

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absolute diehards.

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Speaker 2: But now Tops brought it back and it is one of.

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Speaker 4: The hottest things besides the four major sports.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: Couldn't imagine how it's grown this much, especially I mean

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some of these years in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, like

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the prices were so cheap, you could find so much

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of it. It's just as crazy now you can't even

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find a blaster of TOPS chrome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think back to my younger days, brodian I

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would go to hobby shops and my mom would go

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to the grocery store and leave me in the hobby shop,

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so it was like my babysitter. But I would see

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in the eighties all this baseball and then there'd be

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a box of football, a box of hockey, and a

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box of basketball, and no one would buy those, you know,

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like who's playing that? But I realized now that those

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were so the baseball was so mass produced, obviously, and

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I should have bought Gretzky's rookie year packs. And how

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stupid was I? But I think there's still opportunities like

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that with some of these emerging properties. And one piece

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is one in particular that if you got in on

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some of those tournament cards or some of the secret

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raars things along those lines early, you're gonna do really well.

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But you know, again, all these other properties too, they've

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just got a lot of upside because I don't think

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there's as many people collecting those as there are baseball basketball,

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so I think you have smaller runs and a better

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opportunity to have something that will hold value long term.

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Speaker 2: It's only we could go back to the trip.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that we see in the vintage world,

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and that is sort of an analog to what you're

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talking about, Chris, is that we're seeing a lot of

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people buying nonsports, you know, the old tobacco cards of

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Lincoln and Edison and a players like that, and some

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of the some of the boxing is picked up. So

478
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it's really yeah, it's not just baseball or basketball or

479
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,559
football anymore. And that's really good. That's really good for

480
00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:49,559
the hobby. I think too is to people, and it's good.

481
00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:51,400
You know, it's also good. I'm a history guy, so

482
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,240
a lot of this stuff I see somebody picks up,

483
00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:56,519
you know, a Jack Johnson card and suddenly they read

484
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,359
the whole story of Jack Johnson and it becomes a

485
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,000
history less. So this little piece of cardboard isn't just

486
00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:04,200
a piece of cardboard with a picture on it. It's

487
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:08,119
it's a gateway to understand more about like American history

488
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:12,880
and you know, the world basically. So my notes, I'm

489
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,160
down to the last thing and we're only halfway through,

490
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,720
which is good guys, good guys had good years. And

491
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,319
I want to shout out two different good guys that

492
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,599
I think had great years in twenty twenty five, and

493
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,720
I hope that they continue to do well. One is

494
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:31,039
Jeremy Dohnson of CIA Auctions and CIA Auctions has had

495
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:34,160
a terrific year this year, and I met I've met

496
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,640
Jerry several times, but got to hang out with him

497
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,519
for a while at the Philly Show and just sit

498
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:42,759
down and hear about, you know, what his concept is

499
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:44,720
for the for the auction house, and I think it's just,

500
00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:48,240
you know, he's just a collector's collector doing an auction

501
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,319
house and it really shows in the way that they

502
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,920
you know, the rules that they have and the way

503
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,400
that they present their cards. So he's he's one guy

504
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,400
that I had a great year. The other guy's another

505
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,720
auction house guy is Al from Love of the Game,

506
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,039
also had a great year this year. He and I

507
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:05,559
had an opportunity to sit down three different times on

508
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,960
four collectors and go through his auctions. And just one

509
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,440
of those guys who started out as a collector as

510
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:14,039
a treasure hunter and now has one of the best

511
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:17,960
auction houses in the entire hobby and is a personal friend.

512
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,720
I've known him for twenty years at this point. And

513
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:23,279
so those two guys had great twenty twenty fives, and

514
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:25,880
I just wanted to shout out the good guys having

515
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,960
good years. Chris, you got any good guys who had

516
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,279
good years that you want to talk about?

517
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,599
Speaker 5: I know so many, Like everyone seemed to have a

518
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:37,160
good year. You know, it was yeah, I I you know,

519
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:40,400
I'll I'd like to shout out Rob Veris from Burbank

520
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:46,759
Sports Cards. I think the shop he built in Burbank,

521
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,480
it was. It was an old rite aid, Like whoever

522
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:54,000
thought that there'd be a flipping trading card shop made

523
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,480
out of a rite aid? But there it is. And

524
00:26:57,079 --> 00:27:01,079
it's beautiful inside and out. And I cannot walk in

525
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,079
that shop without spending more than I'd like to tell

526
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,839
my wife. And it's a special place. So to see

527
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,359
some of the hobby shops leveling up, I think is

528
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,559
really really incredible. RBI Crew seven opened up a great

529
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:21,799
shop in Missouri. They've always had a shop, but their

530
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:26,680
new location is beautiful. David Adams, if you have not,

531
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,599
I went to go to their shop in downtown New

532
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,680
York two weeks ago, and of course I'm walking through

533
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,960
the streets of it's right by Times Square, so it's

534
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,640
like three blocks from Times Square, so I'm walking through

535
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,240
Times Square trying to get there, you know, to check

536
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:47,000
it out. And I don't know if you guys have

537
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,839
ever heard of Santa Kon, but it's where like nine

538
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,799
million people dressed as Santa I'll get together at one

539
00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:56,480
time and everyone's drinking and having a great time. So

540
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,200
I'm weaving my way through Santa's to go to a

541
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,920
hobby shop. I'm like this, this is this is my life.

542
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,279
But uh, but that shop is super impressive. Uh so

543
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,880
I I think one of the the cool things that

544
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,079
happened this year is is hobby shops went from being

545
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:18,400
these places where it's you know, I've been in hobby

546
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,279
shops where it's kind of like a garage sale, right,

547
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,720
and then these these experiences now have become so pre

548
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,640
such premium retail experiences. Mojo breaks as well. I'm actually

549
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,880
wearing their their shirt today in Santa Clara. They're they're

550
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:38,240
tripling the size of their their hobby shop. So uh,

551
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:41,039
they're in the final phase of construction right now. So

552
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,839
I've always I've always worked really closely with hobby shop owners.

553
00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:48,920
I think I've always wanted to be a hobby shop owner.

554
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,920
But it's it's it's a scary scary jump man like

555
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,039
it's it's it's hard work. You see how much they

556
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:56,559
put into it and how hard it is to get product,

557
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,160
and it is it is a grind. So to see

558
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,119
all these shops have success and grow is really cool

559
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,519
to see.

560
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: Matt City Crew says scout out to Hobby, Hotline, Junk Wax,

561
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:09,920
Hero and Brody stay strong and enjoyed your Christmas countdown?

562
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,880
Wonderful Any shout outs you got in the twenty twenty

563
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,000
five Hobby Guys who good guys who had good years?

564
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 4: For Brody, yeah, I think like Chris said, I think

565
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,400
everybody had a good year. But I'll mention a RBI

566
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,480
crew too. Ryan is an awesome person. He's so fun

567
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,680
to talk with. Their new shop, like you said, is awesome.

568
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:32,160
They're booth at the National is amazing every year. Chris

569
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,480
Keller from Top Shelf Sports Cards and Top Shelf breaks,

570
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,559
he does so much for the community that he's in

571
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,680
and just an awesome shop and love hating out with him.

572
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,640
And also to Tim from Signatures for Soldiers, I mean, yeah,

573
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,799
if there is a definition of a guy that works

574
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:50,759
his butt off like crazy to do good things, it's

575
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:53,720
Tim for Signatures for Soldiers. If you haven't seen him,

576
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:55,640
make sure you go check him out. He does awesome

577
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,559
stuff for the milk.

578
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. You know, we did the Hobby Poalooza

579
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,759
this year and it was my first year with hobby Paluza.

580
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:06,000
I mean I've been on it before in previous years,

581
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,599
but as as one of the producers of it. And

582
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,039
we got to know Tim and we got to hand

583
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:13,720
him the check for all the money that was raised

584
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:17,839
during hobby Paluza at the National And yeah, I can't

585
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,680
I can't say like enough great stuff about this guy.

586
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,559
And we you know, we chatted with him. He was

587
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:26,200
on our finale show. You know, we chatted with him

588
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,759
before the show after the show, just like a guy

589
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:31,960
who like we were literally he was literally like in

590
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:34,960
tears talking about some of the guys and the money.

591
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,559
When we handed in the check at the National, he said,

592
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,279
I already know who and where this money is going through.

593
00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:46,680
I know which guys need it because he's kipped up

594
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:49,519
with what guys behind in his rent. What guy needs,

595
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,640
you know, needs a fix to his his vehicle that

596
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:55,079
is set up for like you know, his his handicap

597
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,359
or what something he's got in mind. So that he

598
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,119
could use that money literally the same day, and so

599
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:04,319
it was just like it just you know, good, I'm

600
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:06,279
glad you brought this up, Brody, because this is like

601
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,400
good stuff happening to good guys, Like this is like

602
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,200
the prime example, because this guy is a good guy

603
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,519
all the way down. And to be able to have

604
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,279
you know, content with him and contact with him, and

605
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:21,279
be able to hand this guy at check and say, listen,

606
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,400
like we only did this just you know, having fun online,

607
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,960
you're doing this and making a difference in people's lives.

608
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,039
And he talked about how, you know, a signature for

609
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,319
Soul just started out is kind of a small little thing,

610
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,920
and the amount of money he's raised is so far

611
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:38,799
beyond any of his expectations that he was able to say,

612
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:41,200
like he really feels like he's made a difference in

613
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,400
people's lives and he has. And to me, that's exactly

614
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,559
what the hobbyship it should be people coming together to

615
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,799
do something for other people. And if you can do

616
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,079
that once in your life or once in a year,

617
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:55,839
then you know you've you've done a great thing. And

618
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,160
that's that's turned little pieces of cardboard into magic. And

619
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,559
to me, Tim is like the perfect example. Thank you

620
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:03,640
party for bringing that up.

621
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:07,119
Speaker 5: So my wife has a rule if if something comes

622
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,160
in this house, a new collectible comes in, something's got

623
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,759
to go out, which you know, I think that's fair.

624
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,640
I think, you know, for the sanctity of my marriage,

625
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,160
I think that that's a fair thing. But for those

626
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,119
of you at watching, you may have a similar situation,

627
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,480
and sometimes you may feel like, oh my gosh, am

628
00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:28,920
I becoming a hoarder if you have too much stuff

629
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:32,319
laying around. There's not a lot of charities in the

630
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:36,880
hobby that you can donate cards or collectibles too, and

631
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,279
you can get a really nice tax deduction now that

632
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:42,440
it's the end of year on some of those items.

633
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,079
But Tim at six six for Soldiers is a great

634
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,720
resource if you're ever looking to lighten the load a

635
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,000
little bit and uh and donate some items. I know

636
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,359
he loves, uh love seeing that. So there's Bertie. Do

637
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:01,559
you know any other out there? There used to be

638
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:03,680
like cards for kids and a couple of other charities,

639
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,799
but I haven't heard of any others lately operating.

640
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not many else that I can think of

641
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,880
off the top of my head.

642
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:13,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like you said, though, I.

643
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,519
Speaker 5: Mean those out there, you know you got if you

644
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:21,039
if you're looking to do something good and fight yourself,

645
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,400
it's it's in clean up the house a little bit.

646
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:25,720
You can you can cross a couple of things off

647
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,599
your list by donating to him out there.

648
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my my kids were my kids were all

649
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,680
grown up, and they were all home for for for uh,

650
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:36,839
for Christmas. And my daughter, who's lives in New York

651
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,440
but she has her own place, but you know, she

652
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,920
has been home in a while, came into my card room.

653
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:46,799
It's like, really, you have all this stuff, And it

654
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,160
was pretty funny because, uh, yeah, I admit it. I'm

655
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,079
a hoarder. And so my wife actually admitted it during

656
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,400
uh during the Christmas opening up the presence she was

657
00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:59,319
keeping bags and boxes and stuff and said, yeah, you know,

658
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:01,720
I'm a hoarder. So we've both we both confessed to

659
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:05,400
it this week. But yeah, no, I feel like if

660
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,039
you can, if you can give a gift out of

661
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,719
out of your extra cards and make it turn into

662
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,519
something like that. Yeah one beyond. So I'm out of stuff.

663
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,719
We're forty minutes in and I'm I'm out of ideas.

664
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,239
Good Good twenty five stories.

665
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,159
Speaker 5: Well, I got a couple O god ones real quick.

666
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, great twenty twenty five story John Newman

667
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:30,599
Hobby Hotline four collectors. We uh, we got together at

668
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:34,000
the National and we talked to John and this was

669
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:37,039
John and THEO and THEO just you know, got our

670
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,639
approval and then we talked to Mike more Inhan because

671
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,079
you know, bench Clear Media is where Hobby Hotline had

672
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:45,559
been and brought it over starting in September, and uh,

673
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,400
numbers have been great, shows have been great. Uh, you know,

674
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,800
the participation has been terrific. The chad has been amazing.

675
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,960
So I feel like John Newman and Hobby Hotline had

676
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,199
a great year in twenty twenty five. So let me

677
00:34:57,199 --> 00:34:58,480
shout out John hopefully.

678
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 5: Yeah. What John is obviously one of the good guys

679
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,639
in the hobby for sure. And you know, it's the

680
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:09,159
online can be such a toxic place, you know, whether

681
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,239
it be x or Instagram or or Facebook or wherever.

682
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,400
There's there's a few people that are bright lights out

683
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,599
there that you know that just make you feel good

684
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:21,679
about the industry where and John is definitely one of

685
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:22,239
those guys.

686
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,159
Speaker 1: So, Chris, you do have a question from the chat

687
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,639
it's will you be at the Chicago Sports Spectacular in March?

688
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,559
Speaker 5: Yep?

689
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: Is that in your own capacity or as as.

690
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,039
Speaker 5: P s, I'll be at that one. I I haven't

691
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,599
been at Chicago Sports Spectacular in a little bit, so,

692
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,639
but I try to. I'm usually at two different events

693
00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:47,119
a month. So my son was was asking me the

694
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,400
two weeks ago when I was going to New York

695
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,480
because Dad, you're you're gone a lot, and I go,

696
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:56,480
I know, I know, but I'm going to training, card,

697
00:35:56,519 --> 00:35:59,440
shore shows and hobby shops, so it's it's kind of

698
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,280
hard not to going. He goes, Yeah, that's a pretty

699
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,760
cool gig. So yeah, it's fun when you can do

700
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,280
what you love.

701
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,639
Speaker 1: Stuk gas plants for twenty twenty six, Bro, do you

702
00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:10,960
want to take this one? Your plans for twenty twenty six?

703
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm gonna be doing a lot of

704
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,280
the same. I'm gonna be doing the Daily Rip and

705
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,159
all that stuff. Probably uploading more stuff on you use

706
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:21,119
a big goal of mine. And I keep on the

707
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:24,159
lookout too. I mean I used to do Hobby Life Show.

708
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:26,320
You could see it back there. I think there might

709
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,519
be some thoughts on restarting that or something new So

710
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,320
keep an eye on my social.

711
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: We my twenty twenty six will include Strongsville again. Already

712
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,519
have my hotel reserved in the main hotel, the one

713
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:46,519
has become our frat house. And then National of course

714
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:49,280
already have the room. The National rooms were a little

715
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,599
more difficult this year than last year. And then I guess,

716
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:56,679
you know, white plants in January, Philly in March, you

717
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,440
know Philly again in September. You know, a lot of

718
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,320
four collect stuff to do. Oh speaking of which, if

719
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,079
we have sixty five people in the chat on Sunday night,

720
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:09,880
tomorrow night at nine o'clock, I am doing a look

721
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,199
back on twenty twenty five, just like this with four

722
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,400
other YouTube guys. It's gonna be Mike Morninghan, It's gonna

723
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,400
be Orlando who was in the chat here. It's gonna

724
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,440
be Aaron from a Value Vintage Cards and Jason from

725
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,280
Everyday Cards, and we're going to talk about some of

726
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,440
our experiences in twenty twenty five and and like you know,

727
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,960
with a with a sort of towards the YouTube part

728
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,400
of the hobby, whereas this is more of a sort

729
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,119
of hobby wide kind of thing.

730
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,119
Speaker 5: And so what's the deal with what's the deal with

731
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:44,599
hotel rooms at the National this year? Where are They're

732
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:45,239
more difficult?

733
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: So I know people tried to reserve back in like

734
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:54,159
July and August, and we did that last year. We

735
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:57,000
actually reserved in August last year, and they were not

736
00:37:57,039 --> 00:38:00,119
taking any reservations when they opened up reservations for all

737
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:02,599
those hotels right along that block there, all the ones

738
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:06,199
that were then you know, walking distance that they had

739
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,920
to open up through the National, like you couldn't just

740
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:11,039
you couldn't go directly to the hotel, so when you

741
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:14,159
went through the National, all of the reservations were gone,

742
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,280
like really quickly. So I'm like a mile off site

743
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,679
now next year, which you know last year was literally

744
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,440
right across the street, which was extremely convenient for an

745
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,760
old guy like me. Yeah, so the point one miles

746
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,519
ones are all booked is basically the reality of it. So,

747
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:35,079
I mean, we'll continue hord but came better hurting the

748
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:36,960
horn again, better organized.

749
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

750
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that I did in

751
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,639
twenty twenty six, twenty twenty five, and I kind of

752
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:46,519
the shout out to to Chris Hoge Chris McGill from

753
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,559
you know, one of your friends is I put all

754
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:54,440
of my cards into card Ladder, and you know, it's

755
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,639
a lot of cars. Not all my graded cards. I

756
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:58,800
didn't put it, couldn't put any of the I didn't

757
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,239
put any of the ungraded because that's tens of thousands

758
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,519
of cards, but put all my graded cards in, and

759
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:06,880
it gave me an idea and a pretty good idea

760
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,440
of what I have and when I when I should

761
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,800
probably move. And I think it was one of my

762
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,800
better organizational things. So organization wise, Yeah, I like to

763
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,199
take you months. Yeah, I put you know, put it

764
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,440
on my phone. Yeah, yeah, pull all the cards down

765
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,599
off the display, bit by bit by bit, and then

766
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:30,519
I went in all the boxes, managed to managed to

767
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:34,239
get them all in the same within the within like

768
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,519
you know, I think I got it in August and

769
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,679
finished it in November, so yeah, months.

770
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was an incredible tool.

771
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was pricing a card with like

772
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,280
a Pop four recently with a friend of mine, and

773
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,000
I used VCP and I told him it was a

774
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:54,719
Pop one and there hadn't been any sales since like

775
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,639
twenty eighteen, and then I checked card Ladder and card

776
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,719
latter had a sale from this year and had the

777
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,559
right pop count. So I feel like my my one

778
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:08,239
year subscription to t VCP is due pretty soon and

779
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,599
I might not renew it. I don't like when there's

780
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,519
data missing in a situation like that. So yeah, this

781
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,440
is a good question. How did you add them by years?

782
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,800
Trust me, it was just like all the Kofax, then

783
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,360
all the Spawn, then all the Maes, then all the mantle.

784
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,800
It was just like bit by bit by bit. Just

785
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,840
it wasn't organized by year or player or by sport

786
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:35,599
or anything like that. That's not very Hordor of you exactly. Oh,

787
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,400
I think I didn't know this. Do you guys know

788
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,400
anything about this? MLB Network is starting a baseball card show? Chris,

789
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,280
do you know anything about this?

790
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 5: No, I hadn't heard about that. I knew they, I

791
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,199
mean all the all the network, all the leagues have

792
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,559
been doing programming about cards now for the last couple

793
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:53,239
of years. But that's that's great to see. I know

794
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:58,320
the NHL Network does an unwrapped segment with Upper Deck.

795
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:02,280
I've seen MLB Network doing a variety of things, but

796
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,880
it's it's great to see an actual show, and I

797
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,199
could see it becoming something that's, you know, frequent you know,

798
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:11,760
there's there's enough content out there. It feels like there's

799
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,760
stories every day in this industry.

800
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,039
Speaker 2: I agree they had been doing some episodes. I don't

801
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:17,400
think it.

802
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 4: Was like very consistent, but they had been doing something

803
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,000
called Cardon and I watched that a couple of times.

804
00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:26,519
It was pretty It was cool, and I think especially

805
00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:29,519
when you do these shows that are kind of targeted

806
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:31,719
towards kids and you get some of the players on

807
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,079
there and former players talking about it, I think it

808
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:35,320
could be really popular.

809
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:35,639
Speaker 2: Well.

810
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 5: I think this is also the year too, where we've

811
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,920
really really seen baseball players take much more interest in

812
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:50,000
collecting cards than ever before, especially with the rookie debut

813
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,920
patches autographs. I forget who it was that added their

814
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,960
phone number to the back of their their rookie debut

815
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,679
patch this year, but it goes to show you that

816
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,480
and and now you know people collectors are like, oh, well,

817
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,960
don't just take five hundred dollars for it. Work some

818
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:09,119
trade and make a moment, you know. So it's uh,

819
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,880
it's really interesting to see are you bidding on a

820
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,000
player when you're on eBay? Now, like you never know

821
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:19,039
who you're bidding on, and everyone has everyone who uses

822
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,599
eBay quite a bit, you know, has that story of Oh,

823
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:24,880
I send it, sold this card to so and so's

824
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,039
dad or so and so's mom. I think that's always

825
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:27,559
kind of fun.

826
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy, the guys who collect their own cards.

827
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:34,639
I always love that because I can only imagine if

828
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:36,760
you're a player. I mean when I was when I

829
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,360
was growing up as a kid in playing in the

830
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,280
little league and you know basketball leagues. You know, I

831
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,400
was like, if I had a card, I feel like

832
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:49,440
it would be like getting a line in Baseball Baseball Encyclopedia,

833
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,199
which isn't really a thing anymore, but you know, anybody

834
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:54,000
who even had one at bat would get their whole

835
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,719
little thing. That's that's baseball reference. Yeah. So I the

836
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,480
guys who collect their own cards, I really I really

837
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,960
admire that. Oh boy, don't talk about that lockout. I

838
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,519
don't think it's gonna be a lot. We'll see.

839
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:08,079
Speaker 5: So I will say, though, the one thing I've seen

840
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:13,000
in my career that was earth shattering for manufacturers was

841
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:19,639
is lockouts. It they say that card manufacturers are about

842
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:22,519
as nimble as an oil tanker, that it's hard for

843
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:27,320
them to they commit to all these production numbers and

844
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:30,480
have their recipes done and do deals with all these

845
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:33,920
athletes that they can't turn away from if if something

846
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,039
goes goes wrong. And literally the interest in collectibles for

847
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:42,360
a sport that is in a lockout, especially now with

848
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,000
all the other options that that collectors have, we haven't

849
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:50,639
seen something like that. So yeah, I think that if

850
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:53,480
there is a lockout for any sport. You know, they've

851
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,840
been talking about w NBA too, which would be awful

852
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,679
to see with all the positives that that category has seen.

853
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:06,159
It's it's awful. It will decimate that category for a

854
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:09,079
good two years. But it's also an opportunity to buy

855
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:12,360
cheap too, So I guess you got to kind of

856
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,960
figure it out. But it's never fun.

857
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: Well, that's the good thing about collecting vintage is that

858
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,119
all the strikes have already happened. That's right, all this

859
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:24,760
stuff has already happened. Yeah, we got about about ten minutes.

860
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:27,760
If anybody in the chat has questioned, because the chat

861
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,239
questions have been very good so far. Yeah, hearts vintage exactly.

862
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 5: One thing Dan I'm fired up for is uh And

863
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,639
something for collectors out there to think about is doing

864
00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:43,320
some type of sports vacation with your family. We went

865
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,119
out to Japan last year to see the Cubs and

866
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:52,519
Dodgers play, which was amazing, and I'm a Padres fan.

867
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:56,960
So this year there the Padres are playing the Diamondbacks

868
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,880
in Mexico City, so we're talking about going out there,

869
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,199
and uh, it's just really cool to see a sport

870
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,639
in a different, different setting or different country. Uh So,

871
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,559
if you ever have the opportunity, definitely look at maybe

872
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:13,400
taking a sports vacation with with your family.

873
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame is definitely one that I did with

874
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,880
my with my family when my kids were smaller, like

875
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,320
going back thirteen years, I guess twelve.

876
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to Cooperstown this year

877
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:29,719
for the first time with my son and his baseball team. Brody,

878
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,760
I think you did that right.

879
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: No, because that was the year of COVIDSI.

880
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,039
Speaker 5: Oh miss because of COVID.

881
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:38,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

882
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 5: Oh that sucks, I know, stupid COVID.

883
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

884
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,599
Speaker 1: Well, I would recommend it for a weekend, maybe not

885
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,639
like Hall of Fame Induction weekend, which tends to be

886
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:53,639
completely insane, but even like during any weekend in the

887
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:56,239
good weather. You know, that street where the Hall of

888
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,159
Fame is has all these stores and just it's it's

889
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:02,719
a it's a good exp and it's it's a pain

890
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,480
in the neck to get to, but once you get there,

891
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:08,800
it's it's pretty much like baseball Heaven. Somebody did ask

892
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,719
a question back here, how many Nationals have you been to?

893
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,800
What about Chris? How many Nationals you've been to?

894
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 5: I think it's it's in the twenties, but not William

895
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,719
is one and uh yeah it was it was a

896
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:25,760
medical situation.

897
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, Bertie, you've been to eight. I think, really good.

898
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,119
Speaker 1: You I've been to three.

899
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: Well, it's easy when they do it at Chicago so much.

900
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that makes it easy for you. Yeah, that's

901
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,639
an interesting question. What's the best advice you'd give someone

902
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:44,840
thinking about getting into Vintage for the first time?

903
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh oh, Ryan, Ryan is not one of those people

904
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,800
needing that advice, because Ryan is you know, just Ryan

905
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,599
is one of those guys that knows more about baseball

906
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,519
history than maybe anybody I've ever met. He's one of

907
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:02,760
those guys rights for Saber and he's got a terrific collection.

908
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,880
We hung out quite a bit at the Shriners this year. Anyway,

909
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:12,280
best advice pick a player learn about him? Read about him.

910
00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:14,960
And then if you if you if you like what

911
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:17,039
you hear and like what you read, then you know,

912
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,960
go pick up some of his cards. Only buy the

913
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,159
cards that you like. I felt that when I started

914
00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:26,000
doing runs that I was buying cards that I didn't like,

915
00:47:26,199 --> 00:47:28,960
so I don't do runs anymore. I'll collect five or

916
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,679
six cards of each player and then and then that

917
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,519
will open doors that will open window doors or windows,

918
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:38,000
whatever you want to call it, and you'll learn about

919
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,719
different players and learn about their history and who they

920
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,679
who they played with. And you know, I bought this

921
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,599
card from from the Philly Show in September. It's the

922
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:50,920
nineteen oh four Giants and all Horner photos and it

923
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,920
doesn't have Christy Matthewson in it, but it's got a

924
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,639
bunch of really interesting players who aren't Hall of famers.

925
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,960
So I have Luther Taylor and Mike Donolan and Roger

926
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,760
Bresnahan and Bill Dollon and all these guys that this

927
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,559
car opened up history to me. And I did a

928
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:08,159
whole show about all the different guys in the show

929
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:10,199
and all the different guys in the card. And it's

930
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,119
like you you can learn just by buying one team

931
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:16,760
car and so that's kind of my advice. I guess

932
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,519
it's long winded, but the reality is just you know,

933
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,239
let it, let it flow, let learn about players and

934
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:24,960
who you like and and uh and take it from

935
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,840
there and walk through the doors that are open.

936
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 5: I think vintage dealers too, buying far Dan would wouldn't

937
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,559
you agree, are always like, very open and welcoming.

938
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

939
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,159
Speaker 5: You know they're not trying to make a fast bock

940
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:39,599
off people generally.

941
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: Uh not as a complete not on.

942
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: You know.

943
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: I I gravitate pretty good. Yeah, I've been to so

944
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,239
many shows in the last five years. I've gotten to

945
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,559
know on a first name basis the best dealers in

946
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:57,280
the vintage world. And I know which guys to go to.

947
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,800
I know which guys to avoid. There are guys to avoid, honestly,

948
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,679
Yeah that you know. Their prices are way too high,

949
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,840
their attitudes suck, and they you know, really aren't in

950
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,639
it for like the love of it. I like the

951
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:12,039
guys who used to be collectors, yeah, like and then

952
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,599
moved from collecting to to dealing, but they still have

953
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:20,079
their collections so like they'll they'll say, well, I upgraded

954
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:22,400
my card so this is now available.

955
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the funniest things. I I asked the

956
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,039
dealer this year, I go, so, what do you collect?

957
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,400
And he goes everything I can't sell. So it's it

958
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:38,360
is that that different mindset, right like that. I I agree.

959
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,679
I like the ones that have the passion for it

960
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,360
and were collectors themselves prior.

961
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: Oh boy, uh yeah, I THEO. THEO is the Philly

962
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,719
Show because the another good guy who had a good year.

963
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:56,559
Theo uh is one of the best guys in the

964
00:49:56,599 --> 00:50:00,599
hobby and he he invited me in January, actually almost

965
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,280
just about a year ago. I just got a phone

966
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,960
call out of the blue. I'm sitting at my desk

967
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:07,920
and he is inviting me to join four collectors. And

968
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,000
it's one of the best things that ever happened to

969
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,039
me in the hobby. Uh, and just has been a

970
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:18,440
phenomenal year. I officially started on February first, and it's

971
00:50:18,519 --> 00:50:21,079
just been you know, these getting to know these guys better,

972
00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:23,400
hanging out with them at Strongsville and at the National

973
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,800
doing things together like you know, like the trade nights,

974
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,599
the Vintage Trade Night, and and of course the signals

975
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:32,119
for Soldiers that we talked about before the Hobby Palooza.

976
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,880
You know, all those things are great, and and THEO

977
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,639
got a job in the hobby working for CIA c

978
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,719
I A Auctions, And when he called me up to

979
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,199
tell me about this before it was public, I was

980
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,239
it was it was like I felt like, you know,

981
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,719
it's like when one of your kids graduates from college.

982
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,960
You know, yeah, you know, you get a friend who

983
00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:54,679
you know who has something great happened for them in

984
00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:57,000
the hobby and and then you know, to have to

985
00:50:57,079 --> 00:50:59,480
hang out with him in Philly at the CIA booth.

986
00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:01,360
It was one of the things where you know, it

987
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,559
was like it's all sort of come to fruition and

988
00:51:03,639 --> 00:51:07,480
all sort of you know, every all of the good

989
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,960
things that he did for other people came back to

990
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:13,119
him this year. And so shout out to my to

991
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:15,920
my friend THEO and of course the one of the

992
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,440
two founders of four Collectors along with John who is

993
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,079
another great guy, and just you know, good for them.

994
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:23,199
Twenty twenty five for good years for them. So that's

995
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:27,320
that makes me feel good. Absolutely. Okay, So a couple

996
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,920
of minutes left. I'm sorry, Brodie, I just interrupted you.

997
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: What do you got I do have a question for

998
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:35,320
the chat and for you as well. Yesterday on the

999
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,039
daily rip. We did pull this each Hero rip card.

1000
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 4: I want to know everybody's opinion if I should rip

1001
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,599
this or if I should keep it. You know, it's tempting,

1002
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,079
as you know, but every time I've done one of those,

1003
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:52,039
it's gone bad. But at the same time, I think,

1004
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:54,960
if I don't rip it, that'll be the one time

1005
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,000
there's like a one of one show.

1006
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: I up autograph or ten grand and then.

1007
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 5: You don't have to you know, I tell people this.

1008
00:52:04,639 --> 00:52:06,679
I get asked that question to watch I rip it

1009
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,760
or not? Just keep it for a little bit. You

1010
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,599
don't have to make a decision like immediately.

1011
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, my own my selfish advice is to do

1012
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,760
it here right on the show. So if you pulled

1013
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,800
something amazing.

1014
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,119
Speaker 5: Yeah there you go.

1015
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: Well go ahead.

1016
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll think about it. And if next time I'm

1017
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,599
on the show, if I'm going to rip it, we'll

1018
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:30,480
do a lot.

1019
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:31,119
Speaker 1: I love it.

1020
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: I love it.

1021
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 5: Can I share something unique that I found? Dan So?

1022
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,199
I worked for Upper Deck for twenty four years and

1023
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:43,320
I love interesting little items like I have this watch

1024
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,400
they made back in nineteen ninety and just oddball stuff

1025
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,119
from the early days. I just got this from a

1026
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:54,119
former employee, and I was like, what it is an

1027
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:59,519
upper Deck Authenticated Zippo lighter. And I was like, oh

1028
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:02,360
my god, this is crazy because I worked for the

1029
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,599
company and they would never in a million years allow

1030
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,400
allow me to do in marketing to do lighters. But

1031
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:11,159
this was in right at the beginning of upper Deck

1032
00:53:11,199 --> 00:53:16,079
Authenticated launch, and they thought people smoking cigars would you know,

1033
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,480
like you know, be their clientele. Uh so, I I

1034
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:23,960
love hobby history like that. So that was a great

1035
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,440
pickup too long ago.

1036
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:29,039
Speaker 1: I think it's cool and it looks fantastic, but I

1037
00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:33,440
questioned the wisdom of having fire around trading cards.

1038
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:37,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, next, Like what so that's that's what makes

1039
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,400
it even more unique, I think. So I dig that stuff.

1040
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, having a sprinkler system or in

1041
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,719
your office around. I do not have a sprinkler system

1042
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,199
in my office anyway. So that's a deal. Brody. If

1043
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,320
you are on hobby Hotline next month, you are, so

1044
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,519
you get to do what Chris said, which is delivered it,

1045
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,239
enjoy the card for a little while, and then if

1046
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,840
you do decide to rip it, you can do it

1047
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,079
live on Hobby Hotline. I hope. I'm the host but

1048
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:06,119
I probably won't be, just by the odds of it.

1049
00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:09,280
And then uh, and then we'll get that, we'll get

1050
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,599
that great content if.

1051
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 5: You have it, if it's awful, then we we'll all

1052
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,880
be there to support you.

1053
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:21,159
Speaker 1: There we go you. Uh, you have an experienced hobby

1054
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:23,000
guy telling you what to do, and I think he's

1055
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,760
been right on all those all those points. So uh, gentlemen,

1056
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,400
it has been a pleasure. Brodie. We never met before,

1057
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,519
we never spoke before, but I feel like we're fast

1058
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:33,480
friends and I'm thankful for that. If I see you

1059
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:36,400
at the National I will surely shake your hand and

1060
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:39,920
uh and reminisce on our end of the year uh

1061
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:43,280
hobby hotline, which I think has been a lot of fun. Chris.

1062
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,400
This is our second time together, and I'm happy that

1063
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,000
this one was a little a little less rocky than

1064
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:48,719
the first one.

1065
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 5: Yeah great, yeah, yeah out of last and uh and

1066
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,840
random esports, Uh number one is is right time to

1067
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,239
go watch some football and have a great end of

1068
00:55:04,519 --> 00:55:06,039
the holiday Weekend's.

1069
00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:08,079
Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you so much for And the

1070
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:10,199
chat was great. We got up into the high sixties

1071
00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:13,719
chat wise, which is always wonderful. Chat was great today. Sorry,

1072
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,320
didn't get all your comments in, but got plenty of

1073
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,480
the good ones and there were some we're real hobby

1074
00:55:18,679 --> 00:55:22,119
hobby heroes in the in the hobby in the chat today.

1075
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:25,039
So we're gonna take it easy and we will see

1076
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:26,880
you back here in twenty twenty six.

1077
00:55:33,079 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to this episode of Hobby Hotline.

1078
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,119
I just want to remind everyone we are a live

1079
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:44,800
show every Saturday morning, eleven am eastern eight am Pacific

1080
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,920
on the four Collectors channel on YouTube. That's the number four,

1081
00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:54,519
the word Collectors channel on YouTube. We hope to see

1082
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:57,559
many of you live on a future Saturday. We have

1083
00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:01,519
a great interactive chat room and we always provide a

1084
00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:03,559
link for anyone that wants to come on the show

1085
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,719
and chop it up with us. So that's a reminder.

1086
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:12,199
Every Saturday, eleven am eastern eight am Pacific, only four

1087
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,519
Collectors channel on YouTube. Hope to see you on the show.