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Speaker 1: Thank everyone, we are live tonight here at the Sanctuary
Speaker 1: From thundery Orlando, Florida. Doctor su Whitaker is our special
Speaker 1: guest tonight and we are both in Orlando tonight, although
Speaker 1: she were not in the same room, she is because
Speaker 1: you hail from Oregon, right Portland, Yes, Yes, from Sale Yes,
Speaker 1: So normally we're far away. So it's nice to have
Speaker 1: you in the state. And we are preparing for Spiritfest
Speaker 1: Jacksonville this weekend, yes, which is exciting. So I'd like
Speaker 1: to give you a proper introduction before we jump into
Speaker 1: our topic of telepathy tonight. And I just want to
Speaker 1: let people know this is not another.
Speaker 2: Woo Wu show.
Speaker 1: Telepathy is literally the language of the future, and we've
Speaker 1: got so much to get.
Speaker 2: Into and really excited.
Speaker 1: So Doctor Sue Whitaker is an educator, inventor, researcher, author,
Speaker 1: and pioneer and the rapidly emerging field of frequency based
Speaker 1: wellness and non consumable energetic support systems. She's a recent
Speaker 1: recipient of the Make America Healthy Again Award in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five.
Speaker 2: That's Maha.
Speaker 1: You might hear that her journey began in a remote
Speaker 1: Alaskan village where she went through all kinds.
Speaker 2: Of interesting things learning from the indigenous.
Speaker 1: People in nineteen eighty she was one of the early
Speaker 1: pioneers and bringing computers into education. Her groundmaking groundmaking work
Speaker 1: caught the attention of Steve Jobs, who personally awarded her
Speaker 1: Apple's highest annual recognition recognition for innovation. And so she
Speaker 1: has got into the wellness field, recovering from for meldehide
Speaker 1: poisoning in nineteen eighty three through alternative approaches, so you
Speaker 1: get the ideas. Sue is a great researcher and really
Speaker 1: digs into the things that interest So she then became
Speaker 1: deeply involved in holistic and integrative wellness. Her advocacy efforts
Speaker 1: contributed to changes in orient law that helped insurance companies
Speaker 1: begin covering alternative healthcare services.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that Alaskan law? It is talked about that last
Speaker 2: time I fix that?
Speaker 1: So she is extremely experienced and she is a great intuitive.
Speaker 2: We've also called her the telepathic Oracle.
Speaker 1: And we're very lucky to have her not only on
Speaker 1: the show tonight, but in spirit fust and natural wellness
Speaker 1: expost too as a whole.
Speaker 2: So welcome Sue, and thank you for being here.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, it's an honor to be on the show.
Speaker 3: We are touching so many people in ways that they
Speaker 3: couldn't get anywhere else. That's what's so exciting about the sanctuary.
Speaker 3: We can talk about things that most people feel like
Speaker 3: they can't talk about. And tonight, you know, Mary Ellen,
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about something that people just think
Speaker 3: about and think. It's something different. People do call me
Speaker 3: the Telepathic Oracle. And when I first heard that, someone
Speaker 3: who I dearly love gave me that name, and I said,
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, that's a big title. And before I
Speaker 3: had never even thought of myself as being someone who's
Speaker 3: different or extraordinary. I've always thought of myself as someone
Speaker 3: who's just deeply curious. One day I woke up and
Speaker 3: I had an entire book in my head about telepathy,
Speaker 3: and in four days, I had it written down on
Speaker 3: pieces of paper. And I just never dreamed that someone
Speaker 3: would think of me like that. And I've always thought
Speaker 3: of myself as just deeply curious. I've spent my entire
Speaker 3: life asking questions, how does life really work? How is
Speaker 3: it that people sometimes know things they couldn't possibly know.
Speaker 3: And you know, when we sit down and talk, we
Speaker 3: talk about these kinds of things, and that's what's so
Speaker 3: fun about the show is that we get a chance
Speaker 3: to talk about things like this that no one could
Speaker 3: possibly go to a dear friend and start talking, Hey,
Speaker 3: what do you know about telepathy? They probably think you
Speaker 3: were crazy, But we can sit down at a place
Speaker 3: like this and we're able to talk about that. So
Speaker 3: those kinds of questions have fascinated me, and growing up
Speaker 3: in Alaska gave me an unusual childhood. Of course, nature
Speaker 3: became my greatest teacher. Later I became a first grade teacher,
Speaker 3: and the children became my teachers. Then I spent years
Speaker 3: working with thousands of clients and they became my teachers.
Speaker 3: When you teach first grade, you can teach the first
Speaker 3: half in total silence, and the second half you have
Speaker 3: to use words. They have already begun to forget the telepathy.
Speaker 3: So I've learned a lot in my life, and sometimes
Speaker 3: we learn from the most strange places. We learn from nature,
Speaker 3: We learn through love, through silence. Silence is the biggest place.
Speaker 3: The title telepathy Oracle doesn't remind me that I have
Speaker 3: all the answers. Believe me, I don't. It reminds me
Speaker 3: to keep asking beautiful questions. It reminds me to stay
Speaker 3: humble enough to keep learning. And perhaps that's what an
Speaker 3: oracle really is, not someone who knows everything, but someone
Speaker 3: who's learned to listen. And that's what I hope we
Speaker 3: do together tonight. I hope we simply become better listeners.
Speaker 3: Don't you think that's a lesson right there? It really is.
Speaker 1: And I think telepathy has gotten more recognizable because of
Speaker 1: the Telepathy tapes which came out several years ago.
Speaker 2: Have you listened to any of them?
Speaker 1: It's yes, I have fascinating yes, And if you haven't
Speaker 1: listened to them, I recommend going and doing and and
Speaker 1: these are people that are either on the autism spectrum,
Speaker 1: or they were.
Speaker 2: More blind, or have other way that they've learned.
Speaker 1: They're learning different ways to communicate, but not even just communicate,
Speaker 1: but to see things, Yes, in just really amazing ways.
Speaker 1: I was at a conference in March and one of
Speaker 1: the people was there.
Speaker 2: The man was born blind, but she can.
Speaker 1: Hold up a sign in front of him with a
Speaker 1: three letter word on it, and he can eventually. And
Speaker 1: what was neat was when he was doing this, he
Speaker 1: was telling what he saw. But so now that we're
Speaker 1: getting more accustomed to the word, I think people are
Speaker 1: starting to we're starting to dispel some of the myths,
Speaker 1: and one of them is, you know, you'd see in
Speaker 1: Vegas a telepathic you know, hypnotist who can read your mind,
Speaker 1: And that's not.
Speaker 2: What telepathy is. Like you talk about.
Speaker 1: Growing up in Alaska and being in with nature. Is
Speaker 1: telepathy is synergy. It's just being in concert with each other.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the language of the future, and that's
Speaker 1: where we're going.
Speaker 2: One more point i'd like to add.
Speaker 1: Is the newest movie Disclosure Day, without giving away any spoilers,
Speaker 1: that's what it's becoming. That's what is going on there
Speaker 1: is that that's what the ETS are trying to tell
Speaker 1: us that once we get to that point where we
Speaker 1: cannot only understand telepathy, where it becomes our operating system,
Speaker 1: they're going to be here.
Speaker 2: So it's giving me goosebumps just thinking about that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, well, and you know another word there that
Speaker 3: you're kind of getting close to is coherence. Yes, once
Speaker 3: we get into coherence, we're all one. And even if
Speaker 3: we can't read each other's minds, which isn't what telepathy
Speaker 3: is anyway, but we feel that love, we feel that
Speaker 3: interconnectedness and that's really important, and it's important in everyday life.
Speaker 3: You know, no matter if you're at work or with
Speaker 3: your pets, or your children or your grandchildren, you want
Speaker 3: to be connected to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you've been studying for many, many years intuition
Speaker 1: consciousness as well as the telepathy. What made you gravitate
Speaker 1: with all the other things that you've studied and really
Speaker 1: dug into what really you.
Speaker 2: Know, grabbed out at you with those topics.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think I was really fascinated with telepathy.
Speaker 3: I really didn't understand it. I became fascinated with people.
Speaker 3: People are really amazing. Everywhere I went, people would tell
Speaker 3: me stories that they couldn't explain. Now that's what got
Speaker 3: me intrigued. A mom would say to me, Sue, I
Speaker 3: knew something was wrong before the phone rang. Someone else
Speaker 3: might say to me, I was thinking about my best
Speaker 3: friend and before I could call her, the phone rang.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's really what we do. Another person might
Speaker 3: tell me I walked into the room and immediately I
Speaker 3: knew something had happened, even though everyone was smiling. I
Speaker 3: kept hearing these stories over and over all over the
Speaker 3: United States. Wherever I went, most people simply smiled and
Speaker 3: called them coincidences. But I find myself asking a very
Speaker 3: different question. How how did they know? What were they perceiving?
Speaker 3: What were they listening to? I kept asking the how, why,
Speaker 3: And as I would ask, the curiosity just got bigger.
Speaker 3: You know, I think curiosity is one of God's greatest gifts.
Speaker 3: Curiosity is what led people to discover electricity and go
Speaker 3: to the moon, and medicine and changes. It completely changes
Speaker 3: our world. So when I would be curious about these things,
Speaker 3: I just kept asking, why is it that these people?
Speaker 3: And who are these people? Let me stop for a second,
Speaker 3: who are these people? I want every one of you
Speaker 3: in the audience to raise your hand if something really
Speaker 3: unusual has happened that you cannot explain. And I know
Speaker 3: Mary Ellen and I both have our hands up. There
Speaker 3: are so many things that have happened that we can't explain.
Speaker 3: And I really believe tonight that the people watching don't
Speaker 3: spend the evening asking themselves. Do I believe in telepathy.
Speaker 3: I hope that you would believe that you have experience
Speaker 3: and you have to remember it, because I think if
Speaker 3: you're being honest, I think almost every hand will go up,
Speaker 3: and maybe that's where the wonderful journey begins, not with certainty,
Speaker 3: but with curiosity. I've learned something over the years. Curiosity
Speaker 3: opens doors, but fear closes them. And tonight I'd simply
Speaker 3: like to invite everyone to become curious with me, because
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that before this evening is over,
Speaker 3: many people are going to remember experiences they've completely forgotten,
Speaker 3: and that may be the beginning of something very beautiful,
Speaker 3: don't you think.
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: And you know we were talking about the coherence and
Speaker 1: I cannot help but think of the animals too, And again,
Speaker 1: without giving away too much with disclosure day, that is
Speaker 1: something that is coming out for several different reasons. But
Speaker 1: my understanding of Atlantis was that they worked much more
Speaker 1: in concert with the animals. Yes, that, and that's where
Speaker 1: I think that we're going back to. And even in
Speaker 1: the Bible, it talks in there about not only a
Speaker 1: future where animals and humans co exist peacefully, but a
Speaker 1: restoration of the original harmony of creation, and that to
Speaker 1: me is just so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's what I think that we're doing.
Speaker 1: I think that we are going back to that people, animals,
Speaker 1: everything in nature, the trees.
Speaker 2: I think that we're going back to that.
Speaker 3: So, you know, there were experiments done in the late
Speaker 3: sixties with a polygraph gentleman called Cleave Baxter. Cleve Baxter
Speaker 3: had polygraph machines so he could test things, and he
Speaker 3: wondered why his dog was always sitting by the window
Speaker 3: when he came home, and so they decided as an
Speaker 3: experiment to see, at what point in time does that
Speaker 3: dog run to the window. Well, they did all kinds
Speaker 3: of different things, but they found that the moment that
Speaker 3: Cleave thought about going home, the dog rand to the window.
Speaker 3: So we are connected with animals and plants long before
Speaker 3: we know, because you know, you would think, well the
Speaker 3: dog or the cat heard the car, or they heard
Speaker 3: it coming down the street, or they heard you on
Speaker 3: the sidewalk or something like that. Well, they discovered years
Speaker 3: ago that it was the moment they decided. But if
Speaker 3: it was set up ahead of time and it was
Speaker 3: not random, the dog would just lay sleeping over in
Speaker 3: the corner.
Speaker 1: Is is there a difference between teleopathy and intuition.
Speaker 3: Well, intuition and telepathy are intertwined. There are many doorways
Speaker 3: to get into telepathy, and one of them is to
Speaker 3: get that intuition working, and we're going to talk about
Speaker 3: that a little bit here tonight. But you know, there
Speaker 3: are many doorways to come in. And so as with anything,
Speaker 3: you know, if you want to learn to play the
Speaker 3: grand piano, you probably don't start with the grand piano.
Speaker 3: You might start with a little keyboard, you know, and
Speaker 3: then work your way up. Well, that's kind of how
Speaker 3: all of this works. As you know, we probably didn't
Speaker 3: do out a body first. As we were doing meditation
Speaker 3: and as we were doing these things that we kind
Speaker 3: of worked up to that. And so intuition is a
Speaker 3: piece of it. And as we work with our intuition,
Speaker 3: there are many ways to do that. My husband has
Speaker 3: a Burkie water filter. He fills it most of the
Speaker 3: way full, and then he goes over to the sink
Speaker 3: and he fills a picture until he believes he's being
Speaker 3: told or is intuition tells him that that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: He turns off the water faucet, and then he finishes
Speaker 3: filling the Burkey filter. Well, that is listening to your intuition.
Speaker 3: It could be called telepathy. Some people say, well, that's telepathy, Well, yes,
Speaker 3: and no, As you know, your intuition tells you when
Speaker 3: things are going to happen. So with telepathy, usually it's
Speaker 3: a sharing of pictures or information from person to person.
Speaker 3: And like you say, the blind person, she holds a
Speaker 3: card up in front of him. He can't see it
Speaker 3: because he's blind, but because he's there, he can feel it,
Speaker 3: and that feeling is usually the telepathy.
Speaker 1: It is because I wonder if he's going to know
Speaker 1: the answer if she wasn't thinking of it. Because he's
Speaker 1: seeing the letters, he's seeing the way that they're shaped
Speaker 1: and everything. So that's kind of But he also described
Speaker 1: seeing his wife and knew where she was standing, what
Speaker 1: she was wearing, and it was very interesting that he
Speaker 1: was born blind yet he could describe what she.
Speaker 2: Was wearing also, So yeah, so there's a lot to this.
Speaker 3: There's the things that make you go hmmm, and that's
Speaker 3: what you should be doing, because that's the curiosity. See
Speaker 3: you're saying hmmm. Some people would say, oh, it's just
Speaker 3: a coincidence. He just guessed it and it was all
Speaker 3: faked up, and you know that's not what you and
Speaker 3: I do. We go, huh, how do he do that? How?
Speaker 3: That's the curiosity, And that's what I want people to
Speaker 3: walk away with tonight is that how how does this happen?
Speaker 3: How does this woman know? How do I know? How?
Speaker 3: Where did I get it? Yeah? And it's because you
Speaker 3: and I are willing to go huh, how did he
Speaker 3: get that? And how does he know? And could it
Speaker 3: be that it's from her? Well, if it's from her,
Speaker 3: then that's telepathy because she's thinking of a cat or
Speaker 3: whatever the word was, right, or she's thinking of what
Speaker 3: she drew, because you know, if she's sitting there thinking
Speaker 3: about a cat, but he's telling her what she drew,
Speaker 3: that's completely different.
Speaker 2: That happened. One of the words is.
Speaker 1: B b eeaid, I see a line, I see a circle,
Speaker 1: it's going that way, he goes.
Speaker 2: But I know what it is because I see it
Speaker 2: and he saw the bee.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And that's not again, that's.
Speaker 1: Not mind reading. He is in you know, in coherence
Speaker 1: with her, right. And so so that's different than being
Speaker 1: able to know exactly what somebody is thinking as well,
Speaker 1: you know what they're feeling or they you know, Yes, similar,
Speaker 1: but it is different.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's very different.
Speaker 2: So we got it.
Speaker 1: We got a question from a listener, and so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kind of second this question.
Speaker 2: But they asked. She asks of you, have you ever
Speaker 2: had an experience you still can't explain?
Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness, I've had several, but I'll share one
Speaker 3: that was really interesting. I happened to be at La
Speaker 3: Conscious Life, and many of you know about that, and
Speaker 3: so it's a little bit different than some of the
Speaker 3: venues you'll go to. But I got in there and
Speaker 3: I found a beautiful piece of lapis lazuli and I
Speaker 3: walked by, and then I went back and I went,
Speaker 3: I got to have that. Well. Jeff and I went
Speaker 3: on to our booth. We got set up, I ran back,
Speaker 3: I paid the gentleman, and when I bought it from
Speaker 3: the gentleman, and the gentleman said something very interesting. He said,
Speaker 3: when I bought this in Afghanistan, I saw your face
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh right, he's a salesperson, right,
Speaker 3: And of course he would tell me that. So I
Speaker 3: didn't think anything about it, went in did my work
Speaker 3: that night. During the middle of the night, I had
Speaker 3: a dream about him. I dreamt that we were in
Speaker 3: a cave with crystals that were so large that we
Speaker 3: couldn't put our arms around him, and he would just
Speaker 3: flink on them just a little bit and they would
Speaker 3: just sing and it was beautiful, and I knew exactly
Speaker 3: what we had on. And when I got up that morning,
Speaker 3: I told my husband all about it. I said, Jeff,
Speaker 3: it was the coolest place. I said, there was this
Speaker 3: cave and blah blah blah blah blah. And that was
Speaker 3: kind of the end of it until I got to
Speaker 3: my booth and the gentleman came running in, ran right
Speaker 3: past me, stood right in front of my husband, about
Speaker 3: four inches from his face, and said, Sir, I had
Speaker 3: a dream about your wife last night. I dreamt that
Speaker 3: we were in a cave. The crystals were so large
Speaker 3: we couldn't put our arms around them, and I would
Speaker 3: make them sing, and he told everything we had on. Wow. Now,
Speaker 3: where that came from, I have no explanation. But what
Speaker 3: it has done is if he's at one of these
Speaker 3: conferences or expos that I go to, I will know
Speaker 3: he's there before I go in the door. He says,
Speaker 3: he knows if I'm there, and sometimes will end up
Speaker 3: at exactly the same place, coming in the front and
Speaker 3: back door. And so something has drawn us together. But
Speaker 3: do you have any explanation on how that could happen? Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 1: You know, we've been doing this so long almost nothing
Speaker 1: surprises me, right, And that was what I was going
Speaker 1: to follow up with because I don't want to get
Speaker 1: too far off of the subject of telepathy, because we've
Speaker 1: got a lot to cover, right, But I was also thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, I could name the top five and I
Speaker 1: don't want to say weirdest.
Speaker 2: But the most unbelievable things that I've seen.
Speaker 1: So what about you, what's one of the most unbelievable
Speaker 1: things that you've witnessed.
Speaker 3: I was in a car in Austin, Texas driving down
Speaker 3: a frontage road and a Corvette came off the freeway
Speaker 3: doing about eighty miles an hour and I looked up
Speaker 3: and he was less than a foot from the driver's side,
Speaker 3: which I was driving, and I didn't have time to
Speaker 3: do anything except grab the steering wheel because I knew
Speaker 3: he was going to put me into a spin. And
Speaker 3: nothing happened. And I looked in my rearview mirror and
Speaker 3: he went off the side of the road. Wow, I
Speaker 3: have no explanation.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and that's to me, that's a miracle. And
Speaker 2: you know, yes, yeah, so that's about you.
Speaker 3: What what have you?
Speaker 1: I had a few and one was I did see.
Speaker 1: It was when the Sanctuary was a store, when it
Speaker 1: was still a physical location, and we were there after
Speaker 1: hours waiting for something. We were going somewhere, We're doing something,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the practitioners were still there and
Speaker 1: they were doing healing on a woman that was going
Speaker 1: through a particularly difficult time. And I saw her back
Speaker 1: arch and I saw something came out of her and.
Speaker 2: It was not good.
Speaker 1: I knew whatever it was, and we stayed extraly and
Speaker 1: did a lot of clearing, but I knew whatever it
Speaker 1: was needed to come out of her. And that was
Speaker 1: really cool, just the fact to see it. And I again,
Speaker 1: I saw it with my own eyes. I can't dispute that.
Speaker 1: But there's actually other things. One morning, I was having
Speaker 1: trouble waking up. I had gotten up really early to
Speaker 1: take my daughter to school. It gosh like six thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning. And I came home and I went
Speaker 1: back to sleep, and you know, you go into that
Speaker 1: deep rem sleep and then you feel disoriented, and I
Speaker 1: knew it was time to wake up, and I had
Speaker 1: forced myself to wake up, and I saw what looked
Speaker 1: like a softball, but it had green and red things
Speaker 1: flashing around it, and it was kind of up, you
Speaker 1: know a little bit in the corner of the room,
Speaker 1: and I I did.
Speaker 2: A triple take. I looked at it, I could see it.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that, and then I shut my eyes and
Speaker 1: I've said I'm definitely seeing that. And then the third
Speaker 1: time it started to disappear in front of me. But
Speaker 1: after talking with some people about it, they think I
Speaker 1: actually saw my Marcaba that I came out, which is
Speaker 1: the vehicle that your soul.
Speaker 2: Uses to astra travel.
Speaker 1: Sure, and I came out of it just quick enough,
Speaker 1: and I, you know, was in that state. But I
Speaker 1: try to remember that too because it's similar to going
Speaker 1: into a meditative state.
Speaker 2: And also that's when I'm most in.
Speaker 1: Tune with spirit, is right when I wake up too.
Speaker 1: So I've got a lot more cool stuff, and I'm sure.
Speaker 2: You do as well. But again, what's the explanation. Did
Speaker 2: I dream it?
Speaker 1: I could have, you know, but when you see it
Speaker 1: with your own ey so back to like the telepathy tapes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could be a coincidence, but when you see it
Speaker 1: with your own eyes and you know that there's no
Speaker 1: way that this can be faked. And then again That's
Speaker 1: why I like doing spiritfests, and I want this platform
Speaker 1: is so that people can talk to other normal mainstream people.
Speaker 2: Remember Ms Leo who had the incense.
Speaker 1: She talked in a fake accent with the turbine on
Speaker 1: her head. But mainstream people and you know who can
Speaker 1: back up what they do with science and experience and
Speaker 1: you know other stories like We've got too, so that
Speaker 1: you can explore and ask the questions and feeling in
Speaker 1: a safe, you know environment, not like you'd go talk
Speaker 1: to somebody at.
Speaker 2: The water cooler. It's just sure, like you said, but
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 3: When you're at the spiritfest, it's so interesting. People will
Speaker 3: come by and say, these are my peeps, this is
Speaker 3: my tribe. These are people that understand me. And you know,
Speaker 3: that's so true. We're all open and if somebody comes
Speaker 3: with a story that's unusual, we don't try to shut
Speaker 3: them down. We try to encourage that and tell them
Speaker 3: that's normal. We're normal, We're supposedly we're normal. And we
Speaker 3: tell them, you know, it's okay, you can come and
Speaker 3: talk to anybody in the room. Anybody would listen to you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, there's I just don't think at this
Speaker 1: point anything that we could hear that would just be
Speaker 1: too weird.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. Yeah, I think with me,
Speaker 3: it's pretty open. And I've heard so many children tell
Speaker 3: me things, and you know, at first it was like,
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, where'd they get this? But then when
Speaker 3: you listen, you can really hear that they really saw
Speaker 3: this and they really know this, and so this is
Speaker 3: this is all real around us.
Speaker 1: So we've only got a few minutes before we go
Speaker 1: to our first break. But you mentioned earlier that that
Speaker 1: we're receivers before we're talkers, and that maybe first grade
Speaker 1: is around that time of the cognitive shift.
Speaker 2: Can you discuss that a little bit in two minutes?
Speaker 3: Sure. Sure. When we're before we're born, we're talking to
Speaker 3: our moms with chemicals. We know what our mom's vibration
Speaker 3: feels like, sounds like. We know our dads if he's around,
Speaker 3: We know grandma's, grandpa's we know all that. But when
Speaker 3: baby is born, suddenly that chemical link is broken, and
Speaker 3: that baby would be lost without having the telepathy to
Speaker 3: hang on. And so we see the kids they're just sponges.
Speaker 3: You've heard that, people say, Oh, they're just sponges. They
Speaker 3: are they learn so quickly, they listen, they have open hearts.
Speaker 3: But then when they reach first grade, what happens is
Speaker 3: I can teach silently that first half, but the second
Speaker 3: half I have to use words. That's because their brain
Speaker 3: goes from theta, which is that meditative state that sponge
Speaker 3: into alpha, which we are. And you know, they lose
Speaker 3: that ability to see and feel. Now that's not a
Speaker 3: set time. That doesn't mean that exactly at seven years old,
Speaker 3: this is over. It's not. There's some kids that keep it,
Speaker 3: keep it going, going, and I think it's because parents
Speaker 3: at home encourage. But you know, most of us said,
Speaker 3: don't be silly, that's your imagination, don't be weird. You know,
Speaker 3: you want to be normal like your friends. And so
Speaker 3: as adults, we've shut it off.
Speaker 1: I want to leave right there and pick up exactly
Speaker 1: in the spot right when we come back from break.
Speaker 1: But I'd like everybody to know about doctor Sue's book
Speaker 1: Raising Telepathic Children, and you can find it on Amazon
Speaker 1: also doctor Sue's Books dot Com, just like Doctor Seuss,
Speaker 1: but not doctor Sue's books. And then what is the
Speaker 1: website where they can find out more about what you've
Speaker 1: got going on?
Speaker 3: Uh, detoxalot dot com or I want to Scan dot com.
Speaker 3: They can get a free TuS and burden scan at
Speaker 3: I Want a Scan dot com.
Speaker 1: And then people can meet doctor Sue live and in
Speaker 1: person this weekend in Jacksonville, Florida at the New Fairgrounds.
Speaker 1: You can find out more about that event at our
Speaker 1: website SPIRITFESTUSA dot com.
Speaker 2: There's a tab for the Jacksonville show. So we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to.
Speaker 1: Break and as I said, we're gonna pick right back
Speaker 1: up there about the cognitive shift we go through around
Speaker 1: age seven.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone to the Sanctuary for Mind, Body and Spirit.
Speaker 1: We are live tonight with doctor Sue Whittaker, author of
Speaker 1: Raising Telepathic Children, just one of the many books that
Speaker 1: she has written about consciousness, about natural health, and she
Speaker 1: is one of the most researched people that I know,
Speaker 1: and so we're always blessed to have her here. We
Speaker 1: left off in the last segment talking about the cognitive
Speaker 1: shift that we go through around age seven, around first grade,
Speaker 1: where she says that she can start out teaching first
Speaker 1: grade the first half with very little words, and then
Speaker 1: the second half of the year it's it's the kids
Speaker 1: just go through this process. And it reminds me of
Speaker 1: a lot of people will talk about they don't really
Speaker 1: remember vacations or things that happened much before that time too,
Speaker 1: and and that is it that same thing what would
Speaker 1: make them not be able to remember them? And not everybody,
Speaker 1: but you know, for the large part not remember a lot.
Speaker 2: Is it Are they using a different part of their
Speaker 2: brain or what is.
Speaker 3: That it's a different brain wave, so they're in data
Speaker 3: when they're before that, and then they go into alpha
Speaker 3: and so yeah, sometimes people forget. Now there's the perfect
Speaker 3: lead in to what we're talking about because and you
Speaker 3: didn't even realize it. But you know what, we didn't
Speaker 3: lose our telepathy. We forgot And that's what I want
Speaker 3: people to know this. This book isn't written for only
Speaker 3: people that are raising kids. This book is actually written
Speaker 3: so that we can remember it's written about children, but
Speaker 3: the telepathic children that downloaded it to me wanted me
Speaker 3: to have adults remember their telepathy. And if we're playing
Speaker 3: games and working with children trying to help them not
Speaker 3: lose theirs, then we're obviously going to remember ours, and
Speaker 3: you know what, some of us already remember some. And
Speaker 3: it's like anything else, if you practice and practice well,
Speaker 3: you're going to get better at it. And so like
Speaker 3: if we sat down at a table and we said
Speaker 3: we're going to share a color and it's one of
Speaker 3: the eight primary colors, which I recommend people start with
Speaker 3: about three years old. But if we did that soon,
Speaker 3: we would get so that we were very good at it.
Speaker 3: And there are a hundred thirty different games in the book,
Speaker 3: and the book teaches you to not only remember your own,
Speaker 3: but make sure that the children that you're around don't
Speaker 3: forget there. So teachers, parents, grandparents, anybody like that, it
Speaker 3: would really help.
Speaker 1: That's another I'd talk about this reason why I wanted
Speaker 1: to do spiritfests and have that platform. I went to
Speaker 1: my first psychic theater they called it then when I
Speaker 1: was twelve, and it was like finding the mother ship.
Speaker 1: But another part of my origin story that I frequently
Speaker 1: share is I could see and hear things other people couldn't.
Speaker 1: I could see auras, but I could see spirits. But
Speaker 1: I have to say, specially at night.
Speaker 2: It did scare me. But I would talk to my
Speaker 2: mother about it.
Speaker 1: And my mother acted like we all knew this was
Speaker 1: a common thing. And then one day she laughed at
Speaker 1: me in a way that I knew she thought this
Speaker 1: was a game. And so then I never talked about
Speaker 1: it again because I didn't want to be weird or
Speaker 1: different or I couldn't quite figure out what I was missing.
Speaker 1: But it was right around age eight when I would
Speaker 1: have had my first communion, and then that's when I
Speaker 1: had my first like supernatural experience that I did not
Speaker 1: share with anyone, but because of that reason.
Speaker 2: But I like people that.
Speaker 1: Can hear stories like this and then they can go
Speaker 1: back to certain points in their life too where they
Speaker 1: might have had things or they might have experiences. Because
Speaker 1: to me, those experiences when you had when you were
Speaker 1: a kid, before the internet, before you read books, before
Speaker 1: you really were influenced, those are genuine.
Speaker 2: You know they are people should not doubt those.
Speaker 1: So that's really important, and again another reason we talk
Speaker 1: about all the weird stuff too, because then if you
Speaker 1: do have some of these experiences, you know that it's
Speaker 1: not just you, you know.
Speaker 3: Well, and it's hard when your friends make fun of
Speaker 3: you if you bring it up. And so that's the
Speaker 3: one thing that this show and then like you say,
Speaker 3: this a fest events, that's where you bring it. You
Speaker 3: bring it to the people that are in your tribe
Speaker 3: that you could talk about with it, and you can share,
Speaker 3: and they're not gonna laugh at you. You're gonna say, oh,
Speaker 3: my goodness, that sounds just like the one I had.
Speaker 3: Tell me more soon, yeah, pretty soon you're best friends
Speaker 3: and you've you've met a new community that you don't
Speaker 3: lose these things because it's very easy, like you say,
Speaker 3: to get scared and then tuck it away, and then
Speaker 3: you start forgetting and it's you know, your mother laughed
Speaker 3: at you. I mean when you said that that Really
Speaker 3: it's touching because as a parent, that's all it takes
Speaker 3: for a kid to say, well, something must be weird
Speaker 3: about me. Because she just laughed.
Speaker 2: She really didn't understand. She really had no idea what
Speaker 2: I was talking about. We did talk about it later.
Speaker 1: She said, why didn't you talk about this when we
Speaker 1: were when you were younger, And I said, because you know,
Speaker 1: that was I did tell I think I did start
Speaker 1: talking about it more openly when I was about twelve,
Speaker 1: But even then.
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to be different.
Speaker 1: I don't really and know a lot of people are
Speaker 1: they don't like to be, you know, kind of the exception.
Speaker 2: So and that I was trying to.
Speaker 1: Think of other things that people may have shut down,
Speaker 1: other sensory things or that you know, may have caused
Speaker 1: us to.
Speaker 2: Not be able to use any of our clayers. You know,
Speaker 2: see here smell.
Speaker 1: The intuition that that serves more psychic aspect of it too,
Speaker 1: that those things may not be gone either that those
Speaker 1: are just things that we've forgotten or that we've accidentally
Speaker 1: shut down due to those types of three D.
Speaker 3: I think it's all the claires we come in with
Speaker 3: all of that, and we actually I've been taking classes
Speaker 3: in psychism and mediumship and clairvoyants because I wanted to
Speaker 3: make sure that I had mine back and those players
Speaker 3: come back. You remember, you start going, oh yeah, I
Speaker 3: remember when I did this and I could do that,
Speaker 3: And so, you know, I highly recommend that you come
Speaker 3: to a spiritfest if you're in the area, because there
Speaker 3: are classes that are being taught, and some of the
Speaker 3: classes are really amazing. People are teaching you how to
Speaker 3: get those skills back and to listen. And you always
Speaker 3: have a real big variety of teachers teaching every weekend,
Speaker 3: and there's so much that we can learn in those classes.
Speaker 3: And sure you can come to the vendors and chat
Speaker 3: with us and visit and buy things, but there's like
Speaker 3: a complete college library every weekend. And you have amazing people,
Speaker 3: I mean, world experts are at those faires. You never
Speaker 3: know who you're going to meet when you go to
Speaker 3: one of those fairs.
Speaker 1: They and they love to share information. So you don't
Speaker 1: have to buy anything. You don't even have to attend
Speaker 1: the class. You can just talk to them in their booth.
Speaker 1: You know what they're doing or whatever, and they love
Speaker 1: to share the information. And then again you get their information,
Speaker 1: then you can check out their websites and see more
Speaker 1: about what's going on. But I had a thought when
Speaker 1: you were talking earlier that right now the world seems
Speaker 1: very chaotic and it seems like a lot of things
Speaker 1: are falling away. A lot of people say their friends
Speaker 1: are different now, they don't like the same music, that
Speaker 1: thing's on TV. And I'm hearing this from a lot
Speaker 1: of people of all different walks of life and all
Speaker 1: different interests, and I kind of a you know, because
Speaker 1: the planet is ascending, just like people are. You know,
Speaker 1: when we're in a much faster trajectory with the evolutionary stage.
Speaker 1: I believe that we are at this time, but I
Speaker 1: feel like that what is happening is the stuff kind
Speaker 1: of starts to crumble away. We're finding a new set
Speaker 1: of people, a new new friends and new network. Is
Speaker 1: that telepathy or an energetic frequency or is that all
Speaker 1: the same that we're now connecting with these new higher
Speaker 1: people that interest us well.
Speaker 3: I think as our energy level goes up, which it
Speaker 3: is the Earth's energy levels going up, those of us
Speaker 3: in this community, our energy levels are going with vibration level. Yes,
Speaker 3: And so what happens is like if I were to
Speaker 3: go out to dinner tonight, people would come over and
Speaker 3: start talking to me. The people that come to you
Speaker 3: are the same vibrational level as you are. So when
Speaker 3: you feel like I'm attracted to that person, but I
Speaker 3: don't know why, it's because they're the same energy level.
Speaker 3: People will say to me at a show, which one
Speaker 3: of these readers are the best, And my answer is,
Speaker 3: walk around and you will find the one that's at
Speaker 3: your vibrational level. There's some in this room that you
Speaker 3: came to hear, and they came to speak to you,
Speaker 3: and so you know, it's not like, oh, I like
Speaker 3: Bob over here, and I want you to go talk
Speaker 3: to Bob. It doesn't work like that. It's because we're
Speaker 3: all moving up in this energy, and this energy is
Speaker 3: really changing, and sometimes it's really good and sometimes it's
Speaker 3: not so good, or at least it feels like it's
Speaker 3: not so good. But what I've found is to get
Speaker 3: into the higher levels. Every morning, when I get up,
Speaker 3: I give gratitude for all the things that went wrong yesterday,
Speaker 3: because we all have them. You know, the hose, broken water,
Speaker 3: sprayed all over and you know, whatever it is. But
Speaker 3: those are life lessons and those are ways that we
Speaker 3: can raise our vibration and to get into telepathy. As
Speaker 3: far as I am and where I'm just using it constantly,
Speaker 3: I would say that one of those reasons is that gratitude.
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't just give gratitude for the
Speaker 3: things that happened that are great. I give thanks to
Speaker 3: those things that didn't go so well. And I think
Speaker 3: that's the secret of gratitude. You know, the more we're
Speaker 3: we feel gratitude for things, our vibrational energy is raised
Speaker 3: and for people, you know, people, people really need that
Speaker 3: that love and that coherence. And as we reach out
Speaker 3: because we do, you know, maybe it was you that
Speaker 3: said this or somebody I can't remember, it's been a
Speaker 3: long time ago, but the wings of a butterfly flapping
Speaker 3: in Africa can cause a hurricane in Florida. So when
Speaker 3: we say something about someone or to someone, we want
Speaker 3: to remember that every word that comes out is a
Speaker 3: vibration and it changes everything on the entire earth. And
Speaker 3: so when people come to those spiritfests, we want to
Speaker 3: make sure that everybody feels welcome. We want to make
Speaker 3: sure that we listen, and listening is the key right
Speaker 3: now people need to.
Speaker 2: Be heard, oh more so than ever.
Speaker 1: And no, we're really we're all one yes and everybody.
Speaker 1: We say that on our website everyone is welcome, and
Speaker 1: we really do mean that.
Speaker 2: And that's what we're doing. We're holding space for people.
Speaker 1: And that is a term that not everybody kind of understands,
Speaker 1: but that's what we're doing is we're literally holding that energy,
Speaker 1: we're holding that frequency where anybody that is curious or interested,
Speaker 1: no matter what level of your spiritual path that you
Speaker 1: are on, that we are there for you.
Speaker 2: And you know exactly what I mean, and I know
Speaker 2: we do our.
Speaker 1: Opening circle at the beginning of spirit Fest in the
Speaker 1: morning on Saturday, and that's literally what we're doing. We're
Speaker 1: holding that vibration and it lasts longer than the weekend
Speaker 1: of whatever city that we're in too. So that's what
Speaker 1: I feel like when people feel like things are falling apart,
Speaker 1: that really maybe they're not.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're falling together. Right.
Speaker 1: I've learned that things just are no longer right or wrong,
Speaker 1: or good or bad or black or white. It just is.
Speaker 1: And we the more that we can trust Spirit has
Speaker 1: our back and there's a divine plan for everything.
Speaker 2: And that give up.
Speaker 1: What do you call it, It's a surrender, you know,
Speaker 1: knowing it's surrender.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's where you give the gratitude, you know,
Speaker 3: And that's that's so important. And when what tickles me
Speaker 3: at Spiritfest My favorite thing I ask people is this
Speaker 3: your first Spirit Fest? Yes, it's my very first one.
Speaker 3: I just found you. That tickles me to death. And
Speaker 3: the other thing is people pushing a little kid. Wouldn't
Speaker 3: you love to be that little kid in that little
Speaker 3: stroller going through that fair? Like you said you found
Speaker 3: it at age twelve, I was taught by Seanan starting
Speaker 3: at age three. Wow, it's the same thing. We want
Speaker 3: those kids to be welcome in there. And as they
Speaker 3: go by, I talk to them using telepathy and I
Speaker 3: welcome them to Spiritfest.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And some of the vendors do have things for kids.
Speaker 1: They all love the power rocks, yes, but you know,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of things that they gravitate towards
Speaker 1: two that they've learned about through books or minecraft or
Speaker 1: different ways that they're really getting in tune with that.
Speaker 2: So I think that that's good.
Speaker 1: The more that they can understand that this really is
Speaker 1: for everybody. And even I've had little kids eight nine
Speaker 1: years old that are interested in reiki and the energy
Speaker 1: healing too.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that that's really amazing. I love
Speaker 1: seeing multiple generations.
Speaker 2: When they commit.
Speaker 3: That's me too. Yeah. Don't you think that those kids
Speaker 3: that are seven, eight nine years old that are asking
Speaker 3: about reiki, don't you believe that they were probably reiki
Speaker 3: masters in the past?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure, yeah, they brought it or remembering that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're still remembering, you know. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: And I can't say enough about the word remembering because
Speaker 3: you know, people will say well, how come I lost
Speaker 3: my telepathy? You haven't. It's still there. We just have
Speaker 3: to bring it out of you. And that's those kids.
Speaker 3: Those kids remember what they did in past lives. And
Speaker 3: there's even in the book a chapter on kids that
Speaker 3: came in that did that have done amazing things and
Speaker 3: they know what they were in a past life and
Speaker 3: they remembered it and they still remember it today. So
Speaker 3: like my son is age forty and he still remembers
Speaker 3: he has never lost that knowing of where he came from.
Speaker 2: Oh that's neat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you could suggest something simple for people who
Speaker 1: want to begin noticing telepathy in their lives, do you
Speaker 1: have a suggestion?
Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely, get up in the morning, don't look at
Speaker 3: your emails, don't look at your text, don't figure out
Speaker 3: what the news has because you can't change it. Whatever
Speaker 3: it is. And good or bad, well, actually no news
Speaker 3: anymore is good. They don't tell you the good things.
Speaker 3: So leave the phone aside. And in the book it
Speaker 3: talks about having a basket at the front door with
Speaker 3: a little sign that says, when you come to my house,
Speaker 3: please put your phone in the basket, because I'd like
Speaker 3: to visit with you. And that's a big thing is
Speaker 3: don't turn that on. Get up, go outside, get out
Speaker 3: in the sunshine or the rain or whatever it is outside,
Speaker 3: and just be quiet. You don't have to fill every
Speaker 3: minute with something. That space that's silent can teach you
Speaker 3: a lot. Somebody or something inside is whispering to you.
Speaker 3: And if you have TV blaring and a radio going
Speaker 3: and your phone in your hand and you're playing games
Speaker 3: or whatever, you're not hearing those whispers. And those whispers
Speaker 3: are giving you ideas of things to make you more you.
Speaker 3: It's trying to lead you on the path where you are.
Speaker 3: So I would say, first thing, don't pick up that phone.
Speaker 3: That's you know, I don't even it's it's probably terrible.
Speaker 3: I probably shouldn't even say this being a business owner,
Speaker 3: but I don't answer emails until afternoon, and I just
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, it used to be when we'd
Speaker 3: call each other if you weren't home, I didn't get anybody.
Speaker 3: But now if you're not home, you pick up and say, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm at the store. But you know, it didn't used
Speaker 3: to be that way, and we had silent times. Get
Speaker 3: out with nature. If you live in Florida, go to
Speaker 3: the beach.
Speaker 1: We also I had a funny conversation with my daughter
Speaker 1: when I she was in first grade, and she would
Speaker 1: have grown up with video games.
Speaker 2: She's thirty now. They were simpler than they are now.
Speaker 1: She didn't have a cell phone or anything like that
Speaker 1: at that age.
Speaker 2: But I talked about how.
Speaker 1: I not only did I not have video games, I said,
Speaker 1: we only had two television stations because we lived in
Speaker 1: the country, and it would have been you know, you
Speaker 1: had to get a tuner, and we so far out
Speaker 1: in the country we didn't get ABC or PBS. And
Speaker 1: I remember, she said, and I wish I could imitate
Speaker 1: her tone of voice.
Speaker 2: She said, what did you do? And I said, well,
Speaker 2: we played.
Speaker 1: We went outside to play, We found our friends, we
Speaker 1: found stuff to do. We were creative in the winter.
Speaker 1: We built forts. We went around the neighborhood by ourself.
Speaker 1: We just had to go. We had to make sure
Speaker 1: we were close enough from home that if our mothers
Speaker 1: called us that we could hear her.
Speaker 2: That was it other than that she didn't really care
Speaker 2: where she was where we were right.
Speaker 1: But that is something we get more and more away from.
Speaker 1: But it's not just the phone and the electronics. Now,
Speaker 1: the kids are doing karate and violin lessons and you
Speaker 1: know all the things too. And I do see the
Speaker 1: balance that we are really missing that quiet time, right.
Speaker 3: Yes, we just keep pushing them into more things and
Speaker 3: there's no quiet time. Yeah, and everybody needs quiet time,
Speaker 3: not just adults. Kids need quiet time. And like you say,
Speaker 3: we were out all the time. I remember when it
Speaker 3: would get thirty six below. My mom would say, you
Speaker 3: have to come in. It's thirty six below wow. And
Speaker 3: you know we all whined and complained and what are
Speaker 3: you I mean, we gotta come in. But we were.
Speaker 3: We were outside every minute. So the tundra or the trees,
Speaker 3: those were my friends. I knew everything you could pick
Speaker 3: on the tundra to get well. You know, I was
Speaker 3: out and about and now when I'm home, I try
Speaker 3: to be outside as much as possible. I don't recommend
Speaker 3: that people walk around on golf courses bare footed. I
Speaker 3: recommend that you ground when you hand, but be careful
Speaker 3: where you're walking because it's so full of life estate
Speaker 3: that you don't need those chemicals. But if you're really
Speaker 3: out in nature, then yeah, take your shoes off and
Speaker 3: walk around on the beach. Absolutely. You know, we really
Speaker 3: need that time. Even if you're just taking a hold
Speaker 3: of the hand of somebody, you don't have to talk.
Speaker 3: Just take a hold of the hand. If it's a pet,
Speaker 3: just told it. You know. Some people feel like they
Speaker 3: have to talk talk talk, talk talk. When that pet's
Speaker 3: in their hand, they don't have to talk. The pet
Speaker 3: knows exactly what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: We have coherence with the pets and with nature and things.
Speaker 1: Is that still telepathy when we're in concert with the beach, for.
Speaker 3: Example, if we're if we're sending a message to a
Speaker 3: plant or an animal. In the Cleve Baxter story, he
Speaker 3: was going to well, poor guy, he was polygraph guy,
Speaker 3: and he was home alone on a Friday night, imagine that.
Speaker 3: And he decided he'd water his rubber tree and he'd
Speaker 3: hook a polygraph up to it and he'd see how
Speaker 3: the water went up. And I thought, wow, that's a
Speaker 3: great idea. Nothing happened, so in his head, not with words,
Speaker 3: in his head, he thought, well, I'll just burn this plant,
Speaker 3: and instantly the polygraph went off. So he realized that
Speaker 3: every time we had a thought which have been telepathy,
Speaker 3: because he was sending that thought, that plant instantly got it.
Speaker 3: And they found that it traveled faster than the speed
Speaker 3: of light. And that's what got him in trouble. Science
Speaker 3: didn't believe him because he was doing experiments all over
Speaker 3: the world, and he said, it's nothing more than telepathy.
Speaker 3: But it's not between humans. It's between plants and humans.
Speaker 3: And same thing with the dog. The dog knows exactly
Speaker 3: when you decide you're going to come home, right.
Speaker 2: And so that's the global language.
Speaker 1: And the more we can practice that, the more that
Speaker 1: we can put it into use, the more places that
Speaker 1: we're going to go with it.
Speaker 2: I feel like the higher vibration.
Speaker 3: Well, think about this, somebody comes over from Russia, or
Speaker 3: somebody comes from France or Italy. We can't speak that
Speaker 3: language whige, but yet we can always have communication with him.
Speaker 3: We always are able to communicate. And I don't mean
Speaker 3: take out your phone and get a translator, but we
Speaker 3: use our hands and gestures and all of the things,
Speaker 3: and pretty soon we're having a conversation with them. And
Speaker 3: if you take out religion and politics and you put
Speaker 3: a bunch of women in a room, do you think
Speaker 3: we'd all get along. I think we have only one
Speaker 3: thing in common, and that's children and spouses and we
Speaker 3: all care about helping everyone, really women without politics and religion.
Speaker 3: We care about everyone, and that would be a way
Speaker 3: to meet right, right.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm even kind of thinking a step
Speaker 1: ahead of that too.
Speaker 2: You know, you're talking about women.
Speaker 1: But the healed masculine is really becoming kind of more
Speaker 1: a more common term now too. You're right, And so
Speaker 1: the men are not afraid to go there and then
Speaker 1: same with you know the women or you know.
Speaker 2: Not afraid to be fierce and to step up.
Speaker 1: And we did a show about being a boss bitch
Speaker 1: like it's a good thing. Like that was a guide
Speaker 1: of like it's a bad thing, right, But those are
Speaker 1: all really important things. Is finding that commonality, and I
Speaker 1: think that it's not uncommon for a lot of different
Speaker 1: typical roles to be Now I just feel like that
Speaker 1: they're kind of going out the window. Yeah, we're you
Speaker 1: know that we're finding and that's how we find the
Speaker 1: commonalities is through the telepathy that is right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's through that coherence.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I keep saying, just put us all in a room,
Speaker 3: we'll fix this world.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely absolutely. And again the children, they are they're
Speaker 2: it for the future.
Speaker 1: That's wrong, right, you know, and they are much different
Speaker 1: now than they were even ten twenty years ago. The
Speaker 1: kids that are coming in are just you know, coming up,
Speaker 1: which is completely different social mores and what's important.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and.
Speaker 1: That's important to keep on the edge of that trends
Speaker 1: as well, and knowing what young people think is important.
Speaker 1: The movie, and I'm sorry I can't think of the
Speaker 1: name of it, it was fairly recent and it was
Speaker 1: about two couples and they talk about what was the
Speaker 1: worst thing.
Speaker 2: That they have ever done, each of them.
Speaker 1: They tell secrets, and the two girls each did something
Speaker 1: that was really bad and then that was what the
Speaker 1: discussion of the movie was, is that younger people think
Speaker 1: that one of them was worse than what more middle
Speaker 1: aged people would think was and then the discussion of why,
Speaker 1: and it was really interesting. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: too much away because it's probably still streaming right now,
Speaker 1: but it is different the whole the views and now
Speaker 1: the kid's neighborhoods are in their phones.
Speaker 2: A lot of times, they have friends and they don't
Speaker 2: know their last names.
Speaker 1: They don't think that that's weird, you know that they
Speaker 1: they're learning to know each other on different levels now.
Speaker 2: Well, and they.
Speaker 3: Can know people all over the world. You know, like
Speaker 3: I was just saying, there's no division like there used
Speaker 3: to be because you only did know the people in
Speaker 3: your neighborhood or at your school. You didn't know people
Speaker 3: across town. And now they can know people all over
Speaker 3: and they get to know a lot about the cultures.
Speaker 3: And there's so many more restaurants now even that you
Speaker 3: can go and learn about cultures. And I think kids
Speaker 3: are growing up differently than we did because they have
Speaker 3: so much more accessibility and what I see from kids
Speaker 3: even sixteen to eighteen, because when I say kids being seventy,
Speaker 3: I got to tell you everybody's a kid compared to me.
Speaker 3: But you know, sixteen to twenty, those kids are very
Speaker 3: much in tune. They're worried about the planet. They're worried
Speaker 3: about things that we never thought about. Yes, they're worried
Speaker 3: about plastics in the water and plastics in things. And
Speaker 3: you know, we didn't have to worry about that. We
Speaker 3: didn't even think about any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: And these kids are much more in tune with the
Speaker 3: world around them.
Speaker 1: Yes, And we really do keep an eye on trends
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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to the Sanctuary for Mind, Body and Spirit.
Speaker 1: I am here with doctor Sue Whittaker, and we are
Speaker 1: discussing the new global language of telepathy. She has written
Speaker 1: a really great book about raising telepathic children. But we
Speaker 1: also discussed why it's so relevant that we may have
Speaker 1: kind of been inadvertently.
Speaker 2: Shut down as children with our telepathy skills, and they're
Speaker 2: never gone. Anybody can get them back.
Speaker 1: All we need to do is be able to practice it,
Speaker 1: to understand it a little bit too, and to be
Speaker 1: able to tap into it. So to that to that end,
Speaker 1: can anyone develop telepathy or is it just only certain people?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, that's an interesting question because I really
Speaker 3: believe that some pianists play better than me. Well, let's
Speaker 3: say they all play better than me. But you know what,
Speaker 3: if I studied and worked and practiced, I too could
Speaker 3: probably play the piano. But don't ask my musical son.
Speaker 3: He'll tell you that I can't carry a tune in
Speaker 3: a bucket. But you know what, everybody has certain abilities.
Speaker 3: We all come in with, all the players, the telepathy,
Speaker 3: all of that, but then some of those other gifts
Speaker 3: we also come in with. We were talking about the
Speaker 3: reiki with the young people. If they're asking about reiki
Speaker 3: and they're pretty young. I'll bet you they were reiki
Speaker 3: masters in past lives. And so with telepathy, what happens
Speaker 3: is as we forget, it's going to take longer longer
Speaker 3: for us to remember, the longer we let it sit.
Speaker 3: So in the book, I put in one hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty some odd games to play, and I also have
Speaker 3: the science. I wanted to back it up with science
Speaker 3: because it's not a wo woo book. It's not really
Speaker 3: a reading book really, but it has a lot of
Speaker 3: my friends. It has doctor Bradley Nelson and Bruce Lipton
Speaker 3: and a few other people that are just dear friends
Speaker 3: of mine. But what we did was make sure that
Speaker 3: the science was there. Because if you're the mom or
Speaker 3: you're the dad, and you start working with your child
Speaker 3: with this and the other spouse says, well, this is
Speaker 3: wu woo, and I don't want any of this woo
Speaker 3: woo with my child. There's science that they can go
Speaker 3: and look and they can read and they can see
Speaker 3: that all of this has been proven. And I felt
Speaker 3: like that was really important. So it doesn't pit parents
Speaker 3: against each other because this is a really important topic
Speaker 3: and this is really important for kids to get back
Speaker 3: now I'll tell you the next book that's coming behind this,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a three books in a row. The
Speaker 3: second one will be living telepathically. And so I'm going
Speaker 3: to teach you to set up your home so that
Speaker 3: you can take advan advantage of telepathy. But I think
Speaker 3: we all have it, and I think that depending on
Speaker 3: how we work with it, it will come back and
Speaker 3: we'll all be masters. And as our vibrations raise, you know,
Speaker 3: anything and everything is possible.
Speaker 2: It's that is absolutely true. Literally, Jesus even said everything
Speaker 2: I can do, you can do it and more.
Speaker 1: That's right, that words of a master right there, and
Speaker 1: and and that is because the more we believe and
Speaker 1: the more we understand that we are divinity, that we
Speaker 1: have that sacred connection, that we can understand how to
Speaker 1: utilize those gifts, that again, once we came here into
Speaker 1: three D, that for some reason we just have to
Speaker 1: find our way back to Yes.
Speaker 3: Well, and he also said, be as the little children.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: You know, if we go back to being as the
Speaker 3: little children, we're going to be using telepathy. And he
Speaker 3: said that, and so as I think about that, it's
Speaker 3: you know, I wonder who or what is that voice
Speaker 3: inside of us that tells us, you know, you should
Speaker 3: be thinking about Mary Ellen. And when I think about
Speaker 3: Mary Ellen, the next thing I know, she's texting me.
Speaker 3: And you know that's it happens a lot between people
Speaker 3: who are very close, who have that coherence.
Speaker 1: How many times have you gotten a text and somebody said, oh,
Speaker 1: I was just texting you.
Speaker 2: So you overlap text. That happens a lot, a lot.
Speaker 3: And you know, people say, oh, it's just a coincidence.
Speaker 3: I say, there are no coincidences. That's synchronicity.
Speaker 1: When you pay attention and you're open to it, you're
Speaker 1: going to start noticing a lot more synchronicities like yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and how.
Speaker 3: Often do you see one one one on your phone
Speaker 3: on your clock?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And that's what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 3: It's just right, yes, And see as we as as
Speaker 3: that energy raises, and you can test your own energy,
Speaker 3: go get the Bovius unit chart online, get a pendulum
Speaker 3: and ask what in my highest and best good what
Speaker 3: is my energy today? As that energy goes up, you're
Speaker 3: going to get better and better at all of this.
Speaker 3: It's not just telepathy, it's the clairvoyance, it's the mediumship
Speaker 3: it's the psychism. All of that opens to you these psychics.
Speaker 3: When you go to these fairs and you actually visit
Speaker 3: with these psychics, they are exxtremely high beans. They're not
Speaker 3: just people off the street that came in one day
Speaker 3: and decided they were going to be a psychic. That's
Speaker 3: not how it happens. These people have talent and they've
Speaker 3: practiced it. I was with Raymond Grace the other day
Speaker 3: the number one dolls in the world, and somebody said,
Speaker 3: how long did it take you to get the pendulum
Speaker 3: to move? And he said, did Sue ask you to
Speaker 3: ask me that? And I said, no, I really didn't.
Speaker 3: I knew the answer. It took him three years wow,
Speaker 3: before the pendulum ever moved. When he worked with Jose
Speaker 3: Silva three years. So as his vibration came up, he changed,
Speaker 3: We all change. We're new people, right, And.
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing, is we're just raising the vibration collectively.
Speaker 1: What's that the coherence When you've got those those little
Speaker 1: clacker things like a metronome, and you set them all
Speaker 1: going in different pains, and then eventually they're all going
Speaker 1: to be going in the same way. That literally is
Speaker 1: that's literally coherence. You can google that or there's great
Speaker 1: YouTube videos with it.
Speaker 2: Yes, when you set them off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that happens in many different ways in life.
Speaker 2: I've noticed it.
Speaker 1: They will slowly flap their wings and then eventually they're
Speaker 1: all doing it together.
Speaker 2: Into one moves and then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and see, that's what we're trying to do. If
Speaker 3: we raise this vibration with everybody sitting here listening to us,
Speaker 3: and then each one of you they say, we go
Speaker 3: and we talk to at least twenty five people. So
Speaker 3: as you go out tomorrow, each one of you is
Speaker 3: going to talk to about twenty five people. Pretty soon
Speaker 3: those twenty five are going to go talk to twenty
Speaker 3: five and everyone's gonna start going, wow, I want to
Speaker 3: go listen to the show. The show sounds really interesting.
Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, all of those people's vibration have
Speaker 3: moved up, and as that moves up, you'll see a
Speaker 3: real change around you. So you're the people difference.
Speaker 1: The people that you talk to who are just like ehh, yeah,
Speaker 1: no I don't. They're just not at that frequency. And
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're right or wrong. It doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that you're better than them. It just means that you're
Speaker 1: not at the same frequency, right, And I think that
Speaker 1: plays out in all different types of relationships too.
Speaker 2: It's not just in spiritual matters.
Speaker 3: Right, and I have a little bit different saying and
Speaker 3: you're you said it beautifully. I say, they're on a
Speaker 3: little bit different path than we are. You know, their
Speaker 3: path hasn't kind of connected to go that other way. Yet.
Speaker 3: We all have family members that are like this. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, they don't understand what we're doing. But we
Speaker 3: also have very close friends that I believe in past
Speaker 3: lives we all worked together. We made contracts that this
Speaker 3: life we were going to do it again. And that's
Speaker 3: what I see in the Spiritfest group. You get into
Speaker 3: the Spiritfest group and it's like it is a large family.
Speaker 3: Everybody when they see each other, they're all hugging, Oh,
Speaker 3: it's good to see you. How have you been? Even
Speaker 3: if it was the weekend before that we had a
Speaker 3: Spiritfest and that that has been I'll tell you, I
Speaker 3: could go to any show anywhere all over the United States.
Speaker 3: We try to get to as many Spiritfests as we
Speaker 3: possibly can, So we come back to Florida a lot.
Speaker 3: We're here this week because of Jacksonville, And you know,
Speaker 3: I could be over in Las Vegas or California or
Speaker 3: somewhere I don't want to be. I want to be
Speaker 3: where I feel like the people really really love to
Speaker 3: come in and learn, and they do. They want to learn,
Speaker 3: they're eager.
Speaker 1: That brings up another interesting thing too. If you might
Speaker 1: travel and you really resonate with a place, you know,
Speaker 1: it might mean you need to move there. It might not,
Speaker 1: but it's fun to explore why you're so attracted, why
Speaker 1: you feel so connected to that energy of a certain
Speaker 1: location too. There might be again people that you might meet,
Speaker 1: It might be the frequency of the land, it might
Speaker 1: be a lot of different things. So to that end
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, there are many doorways into telepathy. So
Speaker 1: can you talk to us like what some of them are?
Speaker 3: Sure, if you think about a castle, a castle has
Speaker 3: many entrances, and that's kind of how telepathy works. You
Speaker 3: can come about it in many different ways. So with children,
Speaker 3: if you have kids, then your best doorway is to
Speaker 3: work with those kids. I had a dad tell me Sue.
Speaker 3: He was one of my previewers on the book, and
Speaker 3: he said, Sue, I'm so bad at telepathy, and my
Speaker 3: little three year old is so good. But he said,
Speaker 3: you know, he said, I just can't get it. He said,
Speaker 3: he said, this morning he gave me something, he sent
Speaker 3: me something. He was the little boy was visualizing something.
Speaker 3: He said what I got was an X and he said,
Speaker 3: that's how bad I am. And I said, well, what
Speaker 3: did he send you? I thought he was gonna say
Speaker 3: circle and he said, well, it was a snowflake. He said,
Speaker 3: I just couldn't get it. And I said, well, put
Speaker 3: your pencil right between the two lines at the top
Speaker 3: and draw. Can you see that? Draw straight line down?
Speaker 3: It's a snowflake. Yeah, And he said I had two
Speaker 3: thirds of the answer and I thought I was blowing it.
Speaker 3: And I said no, I said, you know, with telepathy
Speaker 3: there's no right or wrong, there's no good or bad.
Speaker 3: You just need to practice. So one of the ways
Speaker 3: would be work with a child, because the children are
Speaker 3: going to be really good at it.
Speaker 2: I would they would enjoy that is a game.
Speaker 3: They love it. And you know why, they know something
Speaker 3: mom and dad don't know, and so they love that
Speaker 3: because they get to teach mom and dad something. And
Speaker 3: so for a child that feels really good and that
Speaker 3: really builds them up. So that's one of the doorways.
Speaker 3: I would say, be curious, don't shut down. Keep the
Speaker 3: heart open. When curiosity is going on, the heart is open.
Speaker 3: When you're full of fear, the heart closes. The heart
Speaker 3: heart is afraid, and so you want that heart open.
Speaker 3: When the heart is open. Heart math has proved that
Speaker 3: the heart has brain cells, and so when you are
Speaker 3: using the heart, it's another way of using your head
Speaker 3: without getting into the ears of brain. There, yes, and
Speaker 3: so with the brain, that's a really good way to
Speaker 3: come in. You can come in by knowing that you've
Speaker 3: had trauma. Do some emotion code things. My friend Brad
Speaker 3: Nelson would love it if you did emotion code things, and.
Speaker 2: You can google them. These people and.
Speaker 3: You can google those. He has free all kinds of
Speaker 3: stuff out there. He's got videos. He'll show you how
Speaker 3: to do it. And so there's there's many ways. The
Speaker 3: big thing is me, meditate, sit down, and open your heart.
Speaker 3: Ask for it. If we don't ask, we're never going
Speaker 3: to get I write everything down that I want to
Speaker 3: manifest everything, and when it's written down, the chances of
Speaker 3: you getting that are way higher. And so you want
Speaker 3: to come in a doorway that's comfortable for you. If
Speaker 3: it's about praying, pray, right, pray. Jesus had this, how
Speaker 3: do you think he knew that the lady was touching
Speaker 3: his cloak? It was all about vibration and energy. And
Speaker 3: so you know this isn't woo woo, not at all.
Speaker 3: This is scientific. This is something that can be proven.
Speaker 3: We can show you all kinds of science where they've
Speaker 3: proven all of this. And so you want to find
Speaker 3: the doorway that's most comfortable for you.
Speaker 1: So the first one is just being open to it.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's probably the main thing. Yes, get
Speaker 1: out of your head right.
Speaker 2: And then and then, but the being and the loving energy.
Speaker 1: And I did not initially understand that kind of as
Speaker 1: I was getting started.
Speaker 2: How can you love me when you don't even know me?
Speaker 1: You know, thinking that that's a tangible thing, you know,
Speaker 1: not understanding true unconditional love.
Speaker 2: But the opposite of love is not hate, it is fear.
Speaker 1: That's why when we are in fear, we have a
Speaker 1: really difficult time reaching those higher vibrations. So that's another doorway,
Speaker 1: is being in that loving space. And then you mentioned
Speaker 1: heart Math, and that's a really good website to you know,
Speaker 1: talk about how we do think with our brain. I
Speaker 1: mean I think we can think with our heart literally
Speaker 1: bypasses the whole frontal cortex thing or saying that right yes,
Speaker 1: in front of the frontal lobe. We're all the doubts
Speaker 1: in the you know, stay the basement, so to speak,
Speaker 1: where that lies.
Speaker 3: And Brus Lifton wrote the book Honeymoon Effect. All Honeymoon
Speaker 3: Effect does is say that when you're in love, everything
Speaker 3: is open to you again. That's how you get back
Speaker 3: into data. You start asking those those questions, what color
Speaker 3: does she like? What does she like to eat? What
Speaker 3: is she and when you get there, you're just asking
Speaker 3: those same childlike questions.
Speaker 1: Greg Braden did a really interesting meditation one time when
Speaker 1: I saw him speak, where he was trying to get
Speaker 1: you to do the heart brain coherence. He was trying
Speaker 1: to so to get that started. He wanted you to
Speaker 1: think of something that you truly loved, whether it was
Speaker 1: your parents, a spouse, a partner, you know, a pet, something,
Speaker 1: and just finding finding that and then you know, kind
Speaker 1: of getting used to that feeling and letting it set
Speaker 1: in and then kind of going off into your brain
Speaker 1: and then doing that resonance. But again that the true
Speaker 1: love on conditional loving energy is the highest frequency that
Speaker 1: there is on this planet.
Speaker 2: Yes, so that's true.
Speaker 1: Again, another global that's a global currency right there. That's
Speaker 1: not just language, that's currency.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, and it is hard, especially when people feel depleted.
Speaker 1: It is hard sometimes to get in that spot. And
Speaker 1: again the reason that we're holding energy for you here,
Speaker 1: you know, we want to be able to lend you
Speaker 1: our energy to be able to get to that spot
Speaker 1: because we've gone through that.
Speaker 2: We've done the work too. And some days are better
Speaker 2: than others.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I certainly have some
Speaker 1: days that are not high vibe.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, We're all going to have days like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's when that next day you get up and
Speaker 3: you give gratitude for that day day that was so hard.
Speaker 3: It is and you have a tough job where you're
Speaker 3: dealing with it's like herding cats. You've got all us venders,
Speaker 3: Mary Ellen, where's our booth? Mary Ellen? Why did you
Speaker 3: give us a tables? We wanted? Mary Elle and mary
Speaker 3: Elle and mary Elle, and.
Speaker 2: I don't really want to be next to them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I heard.
Speaker 3: It all you, but but those days are they're not
Speaker 3: easy you know, some people might think what you do
Speaker 3: on the weekends are pretty easy. It's not at all.
Speaker 3: I mean, And for vendors it's very difficult setting up,
Speaker 3: tearing down long hours with the customers. But at the
Speaker 3: end of the weekend, I think every vendor in there
Speaker 3: would say, oh my gosh, I would do it again
Speaker 3: in a second.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And I always say, they don't come to see me
Speaker 1: the people. They come to see you guys and see
Speaker 1: all the great work and knowledge and all that you
Speaker 1: guys have put together for them.
Speaker 2: So I certainly appreciate you all.
Speaker 1: So we've got a few minutes left here. Let's see,
Speaker 1: we've got about eight minutes. This kind of goes back
Speaker 1: to the question that we were asked earlier. After a
Speaker 1: lifetime of studying intuition, consciousness, and telepathy, what do you
Speaker 1: believe is the greatest lesson you've learned?
Speaker 3: Well, I believe that being open, being loving, being kind, compassionate.
Speaker 3: And I think that you know, it's so hard for
Speaker 3: us to walk in somebody else's shoes, and we don't
Speaker 3: understand what people have done just before we meet them, right,
Speaker 3: and if they're cranky or crabby, you know, it's not
Speaker 3: up to us to judge. It's up to us to
Speaker 3: send love their direction, right. And you know, working with
Speaker 3: kids and parents was the coolest thing I ever did.
Speaker 3: I loved every second of it, but it's it was
Speaker 3: It was hard at the end of every day to
Speaker 3: go home and think about what those kids have been through,
Speaker 3: what those parents have been through. And you know, it's
Speaker 3: not easy raising families right now, I mean the price
Speaker 3: of goods and it's tough. And so I think that
Speaker 3: as we're out and about that. The biggest thing that
Speaker 3: I've learned is share the love. So if I'm in
Speaker 3: a restaurant or I meant the airport and I see
Speaker 3: a baby and the baby's crying, the best thing I
Speaker 3: can do is used telepathy to talk to that child.
Speaker 3: There was a child on the airplane coming over from
Speaker 3: Oregon last week and it was right in front of us,
Speaker 3: and it was real fussy, and all of a sudden
Speaker 3: it looked up and saw me, and I started talking
Speaker 3: to it and it started reaching for me. I thought, uh, oh,
Speaker 3: Mom and dad are not going to like that. And
Speaker 3: I told the child, I said, you see, there are
Speaker 3: people on the airplane that can understand you. And the
Speaker 3: child was mad because he had to stay contained, and
Speaker 3: you know, that's hard for a little one. And I think, oh,
Speaker 3: he was probably I don't know too maybe and that
Speaker 3: was hard. And I said, you know, it's not going
Speaker 3: to be very much longer. And then going to get
Speaker 3: to where you're going, and I accidentally said to the mom,
Speaker 3: are you guys going to Grandma's house? And then I
Speaker 3: was like, how would I know that? And Jeff looked
Speaker 3: at me. My husband looked at me, and he went,
Speaker 3: how'd you know that? And I said, well, he told
Speaker 3: me that's where they're going. And so Jeff got up
Speaker 3: and shared the book with them, and I think he
Speaker 3: actually gave them a free copy because I kind of, well,
Speaker 3: you know, it was one of those things where I
Speaker 3: probably shouldn't have said anything to the parents, but I
Speaker 3: was just talking to the kid to try to keep
Speaker 3: him so he was happy. But we talked to them
Speaker 3: about the book and how important it was to make
Speaker 3: sure that he kept that because he was very good
Speaker 3: at it, very good. And so I think that the
Speaker 3: best thing is to share the love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with that, and we do
Speaker 1: the best that we can every day. Yeah, because people
Speaker 1: need love in different ways, and we need it now
Speaker 1: more so than ever, I think. So we're about ready
Speaker 1: to wrap up, and I wanted to mention that not
Speaker 1: only can people meet you in person, but you're going
Speaker 1: to be speaking at Spiritfest Jacks until Sunday at three
Speaker 1: o'clock and that is all included with the daily admission.
Speaker 2: So and then again people can ask you.
Speaker 1: Questions, oh yes, and learn about more and meet your
Speaker 1: beloved husband, Jeff, who's just awesome.
Speaker 2: We just love him as well.
Speaker 1: So anyway, SPIRITFESTUSA dot com.
Speaker 2: There's a tab up at the top about the Jacksonville Show.
Speaker 2: All the details are there.
Speaker 1: And your info your your great book here about raising
Speaker 1: telepathic children is on Amazon. You can look for doctor
Speaker 1: Sue Whitaker. You've also got several website doctor Sue's Books
Speaker 1: dot com or detox a Lot dot com. And then
Speaker 1: there's so much more on the well Song page right
Speaker 1: about your frequent see studies and all.
Speaker 2: The interesting things that you do.
Speaker 1: So all right, well, thank you again for spending this
Speaker 1: evening with us. I love having you as our guest,
Speaker 1: and we never run out of things to talk about,
Speaker 1: so hopefully we can do this again very soon. But
Speaker 1: I look forward you seeing you live and in person
Speaker 1: on Friday in Jacksonville, so hopefully everybody could join us.
Speaker 2: But thank you to.
Speaker 1: Everybody who joined us tonight and who's going to be
Speaker 1: listening to us going forward. We've got plenty of great
Speaker 1: shows coming up, and thank you for your support. So welcome, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, and good night everybody. Good night for spending
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Speaker 1: in your heart, your home, and your daily life. I
Speaker 1: hope today's conversation sparks something in you, a sense of belonging,
Speaker 1: a new idea, or simply a reminder that you are
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Speaker 1: share it with someone who could use a little light.
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Speaker 1: Until next time, May you be well, may you be inspired,
Speaker 1: and may you live fully in sanctuary.