Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome to another edition of The Cajun
Speaker 1: Night Live. I am the Cajun Night and Jacob Mook
Speaker 1: all the things, all this stuff. I want to thank
Speaker 1: you all for joining me this evening, and uh yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I hope everybody's been having a good week.
Speaker 1: I know it's pretty pretty good week for America, all
Speaker 1: things considered. And aside from that, the weather to the
Speaker 1: entirety of the southeast of America is also experiencing some
Speaker 1: I call it Satanism. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I see snow as purely from Satan himself. I know
Speaker 1: I'm crazy for that, but I grew up on this
Speaker 1: side of Ien and this is just not the way.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I hope y'all have having a good
Speaker 1: weekend or week, I should say. Tony, you are kind
Speaker 1: of a field tech from time to time. So have
Speaker 1: you been having to get out in this coldor you've
Speaker 1: been able to stay on the inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm in San Antonio actually, and it's freezing here too,
Speaker 2: and they just had a bunch of snow, which is
Speaker 2: very unusual for here. It goes through here too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Dallas Fort Worth got a fair amount too.
Speaker 1: It snowed in San Antonio.
Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah, there's still some ice on the ground out here.
Speaker 2: You know, I understand few nights in a row.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm a conspiracy theorist. I get it, and
Speaker 1: I know that we always talk about how they can
Speaker 1: control the weather and all that. But like, dude, all
Speaker 1: jokes aside. This is ridiculous, No way, no way, this
Speaker 1: is natural. What about you, Kyle? Where do you hail from?
Speaker 3: I am from Battle Creek, Michigan.
Speaker 1: Oh god, never mind, so here I am crying about
Speaker 1: the cold when you're over here, like, oh quick crying?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had and a half now. It was twenty
Speaker 3: two below zero last night. So wow, that's what I
Speaker 3: was dealing with.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that it sounds like actual held to me.
Speaker 1: You're born and raised there?
Speaker 3: Uh Now, I was born in Illinois. I was raised
Speaker 3: in Upper Michigan and a small town of two hundred people.
Speaker 2: Okachigan.
Speaker 1: But you're from the cold area though, like winter just
Speaker 1: being what it is, this is very.
Speaker 3: I lived in Sport Byers, Florida for twelve years. Okay, sucked.
Speaker 1: That sucked to you, bro.
Speaker 3: I don't see how you could do it with that
Speaker 3: beer to yours.
Speaker 1: Oh but see, I think this kind of proves that point, right.
Speaker 1: So I am a hot, weathered person one hundred degrees
Speaker 1: and one hundred percent of humidity. Bro, I could wear
Speaker 1: long sleeves and put out a full day's work in
Speaker 1: a plant or in a field somewhere and be so happy.
Speaker 1: Just as long as I got water and I'm able
Speaker 1: to sweat, I'm good. You. On the other hand, I'm
Speaker 1: assuming like after a seventy degrees, it's just too hot
Speaker 1: to bear for you.
Speaker 3: January, the first year with Florida. January, I was the
Speaker 3: only one at school in short shirt, shorts, sandals, and
Speaker 3: everyone else is wearing jackets and hats and pants and
Speaker 3: shoes and looking at me like I'm the crazy one,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's sixty five degrees in two hours,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be ninety. That's very accurated.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And then Raven Lee, you're from the absolute great
Speaker 1: white North of Oregon, so you know you're just you're
Speaker 1: built for the cold here into this this foolishness, I
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not even not cold, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I'll say this much. It's not bad except for
Speaker 1: the wind outside, the ice on the ground. I could
Speaker 1: deal with ambient temperature being what it is. Fine, you
Speaker 1: could layer up the wind whenever it's blowing cold. That's
Speaker 1: the shit that cuts through and just it hurts. It
Speaker 1: causes pain. But again, I know I'm probably just just
Speaker 1: crying a little bit here. I'm sure y'all are over here, Like,
Speaker 1: just put on a windbreaker.
Speaker 2: Bro, calm down.
Speaker 1: I know I get it. But uh, all right, So
Speaker 1: before we I kinda was watching the championship fights for
Speaker 1: Armored MMA from the past year. They just took place
Speaker 1: in Nashville, and I was watching some of those. But uh,
Speaker 1: and we could watch it as a group if everybody
Speaker 1: wants to it don't matter to me. But if there's
Speaker 1: anything that y'all would like to open form, discuss and
Speaker 1: bring up, let's get into it. Which y'all got, we
Speaker 1: could look.
Speaker 4: At Uh have you looked at the child support law
Speaker 4: of Trump that he just passed. I'm trying. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to figure out, like all of it, I haven't seen.
Speaker 4: I've been seeing a lot of different wild stuff.
Speaker 1: What did donnye t pass on a federal level for
Speaker 1: child support? Look, I know he's a bro in all,
Speaker 1: but like, what do he do.
Speaker 4: Basically, if you put someone on if you're paying child support,
Speaker 4: you no longer. If you're getting child support, then you
Speaker 4: aren't able to claim the children on your taxes. The
Speaker 4: one paying child support is gonna get to be able
Speaker 4: to clean him no matter how many kids you have,
Speaker 4: which is honestly, I've read a lot of different stuff
Speaker 4: from both sides, and like most people agree to like
Speaker 4: pay like one kid will go to one parent, one
Speaker 4: kid will go to the other, you know, because both
Speaker 4: parents are working or whatever the case and be.
Speaker 5: But it seems to be the way.
Speaker 4: That it was worded is now kind of like completely
Speaker 4: fucking over the people that are getting child support because
Speaker 4: a lot of the child support that's being had is
Speaker 4: so much less than how much children costs. But now
Speaker 4: the primarily mothers are going to not be able to
Speaker 4: claim a child on their taxes and for every other
Speaker 4: year or however people's custody works.
Speaker 5: And it's a huge issue going on right now.
Speaker 1: That is next level. Although okay, right off, the rip
Speaker 1: can't I can't disagree at least one hundred percent of
Speaker 1: what he's saying. If it doesn't matter the father or
Speaker 1: the mother, whoever, the breadwinner is whoever's got to pay
Speaker 1: the child support. Okay, if this person is forking over
Speaker 1: the money month after month, it seems only fair that
Speaker 1: they would be able to claim those children on the taxes.
Speaker 1: I'm with that. But every situation is different. You know,
Speaker 1: every situation has their nuances. It's always got to be
Speaker 1: a case by case thing. I mean, it's not that's
Speaker 1: exactly gonna hook me up or anything. With my ex wife.
Speaker 1: We have two kids and we each claim one on
Speaker 1: the income tax and neither of us owe each other
Speaker 1: child support. So it's a pretty it's a pretty equitable situation.
Speaker 1: But I also know many people men and women actually,
Speaker 1: who get screwed paying child support. And then well, again,
Speaker 1: it depends on the nuances of the situation. You know,
Speaker 1: there's people that are really vindictive and really out there
Speaker 1: to screw someone else over. There are certain people that
Speaker 1: deserve to be screwed over in the manner of which
Speaker 1: they are. So, I mean, you know, it goes either
Speaker 1: way on this. But okay, I didn't know Donnie t
Speaker 1: was stepping up and speaking on child support matters. Has
Speaker 1: he signed more executive orders? I've heard that he's been
Speaker 1: doing more of them, But I can't find anything as
Speaker 1: far as the list goes.
Speaker 5: Apparently he's been doing it. I'm reading like.
Speaker 4: Through the comments of like different stuff of different people
Speaker 4: talking about that no one actually knows for certain what's
Speaker 4: gonna happen with it, because a lot of people are
Speaker 4: saying that it can't get enacted unless it like passes
Speaker 4: through certain things, and like it's it just depends on
Speaker 4: what he's actually trying to do.
Speaker 5: Some people are saying that it's a rumor.
Speaker 4: Because tex kind always goes to the custodial parent and
Speaker 4: they have to like actually go through and like go
Speaker 4: back to every single court case. I don't I don't
Speaker 4: actually know if it's if it's going to be true
Speaker 4: or not. But we'll see what happens. I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's like one hundred percent actually a real thing
Speaker 4: that he passed or because he's signed so many things,
Speaker 4: or if it's a part of one of the seventy
Speaker 4: eight that you know, Biden has somehow had his hand in.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure, but.
Speaker 1: Oh tell me that doesn't sound like something Biden would
Speaker 1: do as well to hook up Hunter for some of
Speaker 1: his bastard children running around somewhere like you know, damn
Speaker 1: good and well Biden probably would have thrown this into
Speaker 1: but I doubt that Joe Biden had anything to do
Speaker 1: with this one. But this is that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like Donnie t has to worry
Speaker 1: about securing the votes anymore, but I mean that is
Speaker 1: the move.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, apparently like well if it is false and
Speaker 4: it's not true, but a lot of rumors are being spread.
Speaker 5: But of course the narrative of him hating.
Speaker 4: Women is still being strongly pushed because I don't know
Speaker 4: if you saw the pink cats have come were out
Speaker 4: and about the day of inauguration and they change their
Speaker 4: hats so they they're not have little ears instead of
Speaker 4: just like straight vagina hats.
Speaker 5: I guess, but I.
Speaker 1: Didn't even know the pink cats were still around.
Speaker 4: There wasn't a ton but that British lady Haiti that
Speaker 4: always like covers and like comes over here and was
Speaker 4: like there for June sixth. She's the one that's like
Speaker 4: the most hated in Britain. She was out and she
Speaker 4: was trolling the fuck out of them on Instagram live
Speaker 4: and was and talking to people and like trying to
Speaker 4: see what they were even out there. For there was
Speaker 4: like a ton of different groups out there, but there
Speaker 4: was like ten people for this group, five people for
Speaker 4: this group. So yeah, they're running with the narrative that
Speaker 4: he hates women and that's why he apparently, quote unquote
Speaker 4: signed this order. I don't know if it's for certain,
Speaker 4: but I don't really see how he hates women when
Speaker 4: he's considered like he's done a lot to protect biological women.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, one of those executive orders was specifically
Speaker 1: to protect women. So I'm with you one hundred percent. Okay,
Speaker 1: So apparently he's a woman hater and all the things.
Speaker 1: It's interesting time to be alive, that's sure. And I
Speaker 1: still I have hesitation towards a lot of the things
Speaker 1: he's doing. Not that I disagree with any of them,
Speaker 1: not necessarily. Anyway, I feel like it might be too much,
Speaker 1: too fast, And I feel like, uh, the other political
Speaker 1: talking heads his last term, the entire time he was
Speaker 1: in office, all they did was everything they could to
Speaker 1: take away his authority, belittle him, drag his name through
Speaker 1: the mud, bring up things from a coffe You'll remember
Speaker 1: that it was a tweet where he just throw out
Speaker 1: some letters and people were like, clearly Russian collosion and
Speaker 1: it just all the stuff, all the things, him going
Speaker 1: at it this hard, this fast, right out the gate.
Speaker 1: It's interesting how the Dems are not absolutely dragging him.
Speaker 1: They're actually more looking like they're falling in the line,
Speaker 1: which is interesting. I'm wondering if that's not a calm
Speaker 1: before a storm, if this is some sort of strategic
Speaker 1: chess moves that they're trying to play right now. I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, we'll see how it all plays out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the whole child support, if that's true, an
Speaker 1: executive order on child support that actually is that's kind
Speaker 1: of crazy on multiple fronts. That means a divorce is
Speaker 1: so prevalent in our country that we now have to
Speaker 1: have executive orders and mandates in place to try to
Speaker 1: protect parties in the divorce cases, which on one hand,
Speaker 1: does kind of it kind of breaks my heart. On
Speaker 1: the other hand, as a divorce e myself. Okay, Yo,
Speaker 1: you're appealing to your audience, You're you're speaking on behavior constituents,
Speaker 1: So like heard that, Yeah, that Jesus he's going wold
Speaker 1: with it, Okay, Tony Kyle, y'all thoughts on this or
Speaker 1: if y'all have anything else y'all want to bring up,
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: Man well, about Trump being anti woman and pro woman
Speaker 2: at the same time, Elon Musk tweeted that apparently he's
Speaker 2: a Zionist and a Nazi at the same time, because
Speaker 2: you probably saw a little gesture there that he probably
Speaker 2: made by accident, and he tried to rescue it, but
Speaker 2: there was no rescuing it.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude. I've had so many people message
Speaker 1: and put comments under each episode talking about, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta get off this Hitler's shit. Elon clearly was
Speaker 1: doing this type of salute. It's a Roman thing, Bapa, Papa.
Speaker 1: It's like the same thing that the fascist movement based
Speaker 1: out of Italy started. Yeah, that was that type of salute,
Speaker 1: and or it was a gesture he was giving his
Speaker 1: heart to the crowd, and like, okay, fine, I get
Speaker 1: what you're trying to say. There's no way to save
Speaker 1: that gesture. I'm like, there's I'm sorry that doesn't go
Speaker 1: well anymore. It's not you could have pumped your fist
Speaker 1: like Trump. You could have There's so many other things
Speaker 1: you could have done.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: That was a big swing and a miss. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? That was that was a misstep in
Speaker 1: that in that way. I don't believe he's a Nazi
Speaker 1: or a Nazi sympathi or any of that. But that
Speaker 1: is also funny that he can be a Zionist and
Speaker 1: a Nazi at the same time, because we heard that
Speaker 1: about Trump, right, He's a Zionist puppet while he's literally Hitler,
Speaker 1: And it's just yeah, yeah, this is what I mean.
Speaker 1: The people that are gonna just spew hatred and shit
Speaker 1: talk are gonna do that regardless. Yeah, wild things, ZOMBI
Speaker 1: be goodhead.
Speaker 5: A whole bunch of people that I have aspergers.
Speaker 4: My girlfriend, one of my closest friends, herd daughter has aspergers,
Speaker 4: and they I've seen a lot of people like speaking
Speaker 4: up for him that don't even like him, and they're like, no,
Speaker 4: it's because he was so excited that like he didn't
Speaker 4: even like think through his stuff. And you can tell
Speaker 4: he's like excited but nervous and like all over the place.
Speaker 4: And I saw a whole bunch of people that were
Speaker 4: actually there talking about like he clearly was super pumped
Speaker 4: and didn't even think like through that gesture. Terrible pick
Speaker 4: of all the gestures in the world to pick terrible
Speaker 4: to pick that one in particular. Apparently he was saying,
Speaker 4: my heart goes out to you, but like he was
Speaker 4: so just not understanding what he was doing, like body
Speaker 4: wise that he was just like, yeah, but yeah, it's
Speaker 4: not playing well very.
Speaker 1: I know quite a few autistic people, not just from
Speaker 1: my time in the Marine Corps, but like just in general,
Speaker 1: I have personally never seen somebody with a touch of
Speaker 1: the tism throw out of Hayle Hitler for the f
Speaker 1: of it. But it's possible. It's possible that this was
Speaker 1: a like a spasm, if you will, just a little
Speaker 1: like a thing he just did and didn't think it through. Yeah, again,
Speaker 1: I do not. I don't think Elon Musk is a
Speaker 1: Nazi sympathizer or anything thereof. He's a wonderful African American
Speaker 1: gentleman who I do believe has a touch of the
Speaker 1: tism or Aspergers or something of that regard. Most of
Speaker 1: the tech geniuses do. And this, like you said, of
Speaker 1: all the things you could have done, this was the
Speaker 1: absolute worst possible option. But you know, go off, I
Speaker 1: guess what you got, Raven. You don't have to raise
Speaker 1: your hand, Lord of mercery. There's only three of us
Speaker 1: in here. Man, we can open form this.
Speaker 4: Did you see that Russia is Putin just is trying
Speaker 4: to get Fauci sent over so that they can charge
Speaker 4: him for crimes against humanity one As of today, he
Speaker 4: just released that.
Speaker 1: So Tony, Tony, tell me things about this.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard about this, so.
Speaker 1: Yo, I might be pro Putin by the end of
Speaker 1: the month. Hold on now, hold on now, he gets
Speaker 1: pardoned in America, but Putin wants a piece of that
Speaker 1: ass Yo. I am here for it.
Speaker 5: Right now.
Speaker 1: You drop in the chat. All right, we're gonna pull
Speaker 1: it up, Tony. What's your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Well, if he's doing that, it's probably grand standing because
Speaker 2: it's never going to happen. But yeah, I agree, Fauci
Speaker 2: deserves to be prosecuted because he was in charge of
Speaker 2: getting the virus from Fort Dietrich over to Wuhan years ago.
Speaker 2: And he's also guilty of I think a lot of
Speaker 2: scientific fraud during the AIDS panic going back, you know,
Speaker 2: many decades, but especially the bioweapons stuff with Peter Dashik
Speaker 2: and Echo Health Alliance. Yeah, he's definitely a criminal, just
Speaker 2: for all that stuff, the pre COVID stuff.
Speaker 4: Not only that, but he also had his hand in
Speaker 4: the polio situation, like the polio vaccines, changing it. He
Speaker 4: also has had his hand in the Watchman call it
Speaker 4: rebella that one.
Speaker 5: I don't know why.
Speaker 4: I just naed my head. It's the DECAP. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: MMR and the DETAP. He's also had his hand in
Speaker 4: changing how those are done. France a while, I think
Speaker 4: it was France, they were trying to say that they
Speaker 4: might try to charge him, and then there was another
Speaker 4: country that was saying that they would like to try
Speaker 4: to charge him too. I don't ever know nothing ever
Speaker 4: came of it, because that was like two or three
Speaker 4: years back, but there was multiple countries saying that they
Speaker 4: wanted to charge him for crimes against humanity.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, here's another thing. When he got to start
Speaker 2: in medicine and in the NIH, I think it was
Speaker 2: the seventies, and he was originally trying to research a
Speaker 2: vaccine to cure AIDS, I mean sorry, not aides, not cancer,
Speaker 2: and cancer was considered like it might be viral at
Speaker 2: the time, and AIDS when it first came out, it
Speaker 2: was considered a form of cancer. He tried to come
Speaker 2: up with a vaccine for AIDS, so he's been in favor.
Speaker 2: He's been trying to develop a vaccine for cancer, vaccine
Speaker 2: for age, vaccine for like every malady, because you know,
Speaker 2: if anyone can come up with something like that, they
Speaker 2: will be considered to have almost godlike powers. Speaking of
Speaker 2: Russia earlier, I saw some headlines earlier about Russia claiming
Speaker 2: to have a vaccine for certain cancers, but I honestly
Speaker 2: don't believe it. So this whole vaccine subject has just
Speaker 2: really turned me off. I was never an anti vaxer
Speaker 2: until COVID happened, and then I thought, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: all these establishment power has been lying to us about
Speaker 2: all this all this time. So yeah, I'm definitely off
Speaker 2: the vaccine train. Now. Since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: I've been very I've never been pro vas necessarily, but
Speaker 1: I also can acknowledge that and I know what I'm
Speaker 1: about to say is very open to conjecture these days.
Speaker 1: But up until COVID, my beliefs were certain vaccines have
Speaker 1: been life changing medical science for the world. Polio, measles, mumps,
Speaker 1: the different types of the parks, there's all kinds of
Speaker 1: things that we in America no longer have on mass
Speaker 1: thanks to these vaccines. And Okay, there is some sources
Speaker 1: of contention within that statement, I get that. But COVID
Speaker 1: opened my eyes up to a lot of things, as
Speaker 1: it did yours, and as it did for a lot
Speaker 1: of people around the world, I would think, and it
Speaker 1: really started. The anti vaxx movement started prior to COVID,
Speaker 1: a good long ways before that, and it started gaining
Speaker 1: some traction in the twenty teens. COVID made it to
Speaker 1: where way more people were starting to look at it
Speaker 1: with some more critical thinking involved. And if you really
Speaker 1: do look back at the vaccines, even polio and even
Speaker 1: these other ones, like, yes, did they do things great
Speaker 1: things in the day and age they were being used. Yes?
Speaker 1: Did they start adding heavy metals to them later on
Speaker 1: for reasons unknown to us? Also? Yes, are they regulated
Speaker 1: in the way that they should be these days? No
Speaker 1: they are not. Are they given to people at way,
Speaker 1: way too young of a stage of early child hood development,
Speaker 1: Yes they are and these days especially what does it
Speaker 1: Raven help me out here? Isn't it like we if you,
Speaker 1: as people would.
Speaker 4: Say it again, it's seventy seven, it was until well,
Speaker 4: it was until actually about a month ago, and then
Speaker 4: the CDC just released their new protocol and they've added
Speaker 4: I think like twenty two more vaccines.
Speaker 5: It's a ridiculous number.
Speaker 4: There's a there was a circulation of a picture going
Speaker 4: around of a baby and it showed all the vaccines
Speaker 4: that just within the first year of life. And it's
Speaker 4: it's insane how many vaccines they want to pump, specifically
Speaker 4: in America.
Speaker 5: I might add, like just in America.
Speaker 4: It's not it's not global, like everybody gets vaccines globally
Speaker 4: all different places, but like they.
Speaker 5: Are not doing it to the level that we're doing it,
Speaker 5: and they're.
Speaker 4: Not seeing the same kind of results in everyone. It's
Speaker 4: not just children, but everyone total having a lot of
Speaker 4: health issues. It's it's too much coincidental stuff. But it's
Speaker 4: when they started messing with the vaccines and changing how
Speaker 4: they were created is when more.
Speaker 5: Problems started to arise.
Speaker 4: And then and then you have several doctors that have
Speaker 4: come out that have had like actual proof and like
Speaker 4: did documentation and did all this work, and then they
Speaker 4: mysteriously get killed.
Speaker 5: Oh excuse me, they suicide themselves.
Speaker 4: And that's that's where a lot of people the anti
Speaker 4: It's interesting because the Rederick for anti vacs and vaccine
Speaker 4: like people. I've had this fight a lot with people,
Speaker 4: and it's like, look, if we would just put aside
Speaker 4: the brainwashing that's been happening with this, and we all
Speaker 4: come together and collect and be like, you know what,
Speaker 4: if you could just make them safe for humans, then
Speaker 4: none of us would have an issue. Like if they
Speaker 4: were not going to trigger possible death and children, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't have such a strong issue with it. But having
Speaker 4: a child that became vaccine and injured at two and
Speaker 4: a half years old and went from being perfect to
Speaker 4: not overnight because I was, you know, talked into the
Speaker 4: vaccines and I just had a bad feeling. But I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, you know, I guess this is what
Speaker 4: everyone does. And then actually witnessing it with my own eyes,
Speaker 4: what happened to my own child, let alone, what happened
Speaker 4: to me being given vaccines so many.
Speaker 5: I just like I can't, I can't just let it go,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 4: That's I think That's the big thing is a lot
Speaker 4: of people are like, oh, anti vaccers are so stupid,
Speaker 4: and it's like, look, I would be willing to like
Speaker 4: have the conversation NonStop about safe vaccines, vaccines that weren't
Speaker 4: poisoning children, that weren't causing all of these immune issues
Speaker 4: or all of this other stuff. I mean, yes, autism
Speaker 4: is the one that nobody wants to that Noby you know,
Speaker 4: will talk about, which is fine. That's I'm just saying,
Speaker 4: even immune issues, like, there are so many different things
Speaker 4: that are happening to children two adults that COVID.
Speaker 5: Thankfully was one of those things where I was.
Speaker 4: Like, haha, motherfucker's finally like finally somebody starts waking up.
Speaker 4: And I felt bad, but I was like, dude, we've
Speaker 4: only been saying this for how many years that they're
Speaker 4: not safe?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, yeah, I want to say. I think the
Speaker 2: number seventy two the vaccines the kids get in this country,
Speaker 2: and there's there on a schedule, So clearly the established
Speaker 2: medical authorities have concluded that you can't just give all
Speaker 2: seventy two to the kid on his first day of life.
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know how they is out.
Speaker 1: That's so crazy though, right.
Speaker 2: Like going on the first day of life and then
Speaker 2: others they get a month or two or three, six
Speaker 2: nine months later, so they clearly already have some sense
Speaker 2: that it's there's something wrong with giving them all at
Speaker 2: once on the first day of life. And as far
Speaker 2: as the history of vaccines goes, I'm I'm still of
Speaker 2: the opinion because I haven't researched as super well, but
Speaker 2: the smallpox vaccines seem to have done a lot of
Speaker 2: good because smallpox was really bad. I'm not sure that
Speaker 2: the polio vaccine is necessary because of sanitation. Improvement of
Speaker 2: sanitation is what made polio infections start getting delayed long
Speaker 2: enough that people would catch them at a point in
Speaker 2: life when they were too old. If you're gonna catch polio,
Speaker 2: apparently the best time to catch it is when you're
Speaker 2: immediately post weaning, post breastfeeding, and then it's almost like
Speaker 2: a non adversarial exosome in your body.
Speaker 1: But even with the pox, though, even smallpox, if I've
Speaker 1: read a few studies that said, like, if somebody in
Speaker 1: Colorado was to get smallpox right now, with the way
Speaker 1: that our medical technology is, even without vaccinating them, if
Speaker 1: you were just to give them the basics of medical
Speaker 1: treatment and pump fluids, pump their vitamins up, and give
Speaker 1: them the nutrients they need, they we are more often
Speaker 1: than not unless they have like a crazy co morbidity
Speaker 1: and they're like three hundred and fifty pounds. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were about to die anyway, kind of. But like you
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, if they are in generally good health,
Speaker 1: with the medical technology and hygiene being what it is
Speaker 1: today as opposed to the early nineteen hundreds, we really
Speaker 1: don't need like they're not required anymore. Measles the same way,
Speaker 1: polio the same way. It's like, I understand that there
Speaker 1: was a time and place for these things. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: But seventy people by the time they're eighteen, that is wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the smallpox death rate was about thirty percent, so
Speaker 2: really high. But measles, from what I've read, it was
Speaker 2: only about two per million before the vaccines came out
Speaker 2: in the seventies or something. There's a there's even a
Speaker 2: Brady Bunch episode where they all get smallpox and they
Speaker 2: laugh about how it's not a big deal and how
Speaker 2: nice it is to not have to go to school. However,
Speaker 2: in places like Africa, where there are a lot of
Speaker 2: malnourished children, it does. Measles does have a ten percent
Speaker 2: death rate, and even is Godwin's law here, But Adolf
Speaker 2: Hitler's brother Edmund died of measles way back in about
Speaker 2: eighteen ninety something, so yeah, it may have been deadly
Speaker 2: once upon the time. But yeah, I don't think we
Speaker 2: need vaccines for that either. Personally.
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand and I'm not judging a parent
Speaker 1: who does give their child all the vaccines because that's
Speaker 1: what their doctor, they're pediatrician, who is the medical source
Speaker 1: for that they would trust with the health and well
Speaker 1: being of their child. Of course, they would listen to
Speaker 1: whatever advice that medical professional would tell them. So especially
Speaker 1: people these days whom these days, we have so much
Speaker 1: information at our fingertips. And yes, not all of that
Speaker 1: is good information. Right. For instance, and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: this is good or bad information, the thing about Fauci
Speaker 1: possibly being extra died to Russia, that was off of
Speaker 1: an Instagram post, off of the truth about fluoride. The
Speaker 1: truth about fluoride is the name of the channel. First
Speaker 1: of all, we all do need to look at the
Speaker 1: truth of fluoride. That's real things. Secondly, I could understand
Speaker 1: why somebody would say that that may not be a
Speaker 1: credible source. I understand that too, or maybe it was
Speaker 1: a it was a satirical post or something like that.
Speaker 1: I get that, but with the way the medical technology
Speaker 1: is today, doctors should know more than they ever have.
Speaker 1: Yet more often than not, it is on us as
Speaker 1: parents to do our own research and bring hey, doc,
Speaker 1: I heard this or this. I found this out. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on it? And we come to a consensus.
Speaker 1: But to the ignorant people out there who are just
Speaker 1: listening to whatever their pediatrician tells them to do, I
Speaker 1: have empathy for it. I just man, it's hard to
Speaker 1: have that, especially in today's world, when we have all
Speaker 1: of this information at our disposal real quick. Here this
Speaker 1: Newsweek article. Thank you Raven for posting it. Doctor Fauci
Speaker 1: pardon backdated to twenty fourteen. Now I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I did not know that. I thought it was only
Speaker 1: backdated to like twenty sixteen, maybe twenty eighteen nineteen, when
Speaker 1: like the COVID research quote unquote was whatever. But man,
Speaker 1: this is new things we already know about this first part.
Speaker 1: As a final acts of leaving the Oval Office, Joe
Speaker 1: Biden issued a sweeping preemptive pardon. Yes, yes, good things
Speaker 1: or not good things, But we knew about that already.
Speaker 1: While many assumed the pardon was engineered to shield Fauci,
Speaker 1: often referred to as quote America's doctor end quote. I
Speaker 1: don't know who the fuck ever called him that, but
Speaker 1: whatever from MAGA retribution, the act of clemency raised eyebrows.
Speaker 1: For another reason, Biden backdated the pardon to twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: a date nearly six years before the first case of
Speaker 1: Stars Cove two emerged. Quote. I believe in the rule
Speaker 1: of law, and I am optimistic that the strength of
Speaker 1: our legal institutions will ultimately prevail over politics, Biden said
Speaker 1: in a statement on Sunday, defending his pardons. Quote, but
Speaker 1: these are exceptional circumstances, and I cannot and good conscious
Speaker 1: do nothing quote though the pardon is not an admission
Speaker 1: of wrongdoing. Critics on the right quickly denounced Biden's decision
Speaker 1: as an unprecedented political maneuver that could deepen public distrust.
Speaker 1: The executive order, which covers actions dating back to January first,
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, ostensibly shields Fauci from allegations tied to US
Speaker 1: funded gain of function research in addition to his work
Speaker 1: during the COVID nineteen pandemic. So I'm going to be
Speaker 1: honest with y'all, I am going to be doing some
Speaker 1: digging on my own here about what our boy Fauci
Speaker 1: was doing in twenty fourteen. I know he was a
Speaker 1: doctor who was working on things and stuff, but that's
Speaker 1: extra shady and when Biden is doing something, especially when
Speaker 1: you look at what his family was doing in Ukraine
Speaker 1: with parisma all those things. Even from a non conspiratorial standpoint,
Speaker 1: strictly looking at the facts and the figures, I'm very
Speaker 1: curious what Fauci was dabbling in in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4: If you look at that article that I just dropped
Speaker 4: in there, I didn't find another article showing that. It
Speaker 4: looks like as a part of this peace of negotiation
Speaker 4: talk that Russia is saying they do want Fauci ooh
Speaker 4: crimes that it says related to COVID nineteen as a
Speaker 4: part of the proposal deal to negotiate and into the
Speaker 4: war in Ukraine.
Speaker 1: This is from the People's Voice, And yes, they may
Speaker 1: be a more right leaning publication, but I also recognize
Speaker 1: this publication and I don't believe them to be a
Speaker 1: uncredible source by any means. Maybe a bit biased from
Speaker 1: time to time, but not unfounded. While Putin quote demanding
Speaker 1: Fauci's extradition for crimes against humanity quote as a part
Speaker 1: of Ukraine peace steal. Putin is trying to put this
Speaker 1: in on the Ukrainian peace deal talks. Oh oh, now
Speaker 1: that's another level up here we go. Vladimir Putin is
Speaker 1: reportedly pushing for the extradition of doctor Anthony Fauci to
Speaker 1: Russia to face charges crimes against humanity related to the
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen pandemic as a part of a proposed deal
Speaker 1: to negotiating end of the war in Ukraine, according to sources.
Speaker 1: According to sources close to the negotiations, Putin claims that
Speaker 1: doctor Fauci played a pivotal role in what he calls
Speaker 1: the global COVID deception, accusing him of facilitating harmful policies
Speaker 1: and actions that had devastating consequences worldwide. While the specifics
Speaker 1: of the alleged charges remains unclear, Russian officials are said
Speaker 1: to be compiling evidence to support their claims, with an
Speaker 1: emphasis on Fauci's ties to gain a function research in
Speaker 1: the global vaccine rollout. Oh here we go, So this
Speaker 1: is yeah, breaking news. They're making posts about it on
Speaker 1: x extradition. This is huge. Okay, Wow, The Russian president
Speaker 1: insists his nation is prepared to extradite terrorists. I would
Speaker 1: personally consider doctor Fauci a terrorist. You gotta be honest
Speaker 1: with you. He did what he did for political gains.
Speaker 1: I don't know what else you would call that, except
Speaker 1: for an active terrorism if it harmed people and boil boy,
Speaker 1: did it prepared to extradite terrorists and other criminals to
Speaker 1: the United States on a reciprocal basis, Russia's state run
Speaker 1: Tass news agency reported, according to tasks, Putin told state
Speaker 1: TV channel Rossia probably mispronouncing that my bad Rossia won,
Speaker 1: that both Russia and the US must quote assume equal
Speaker 1: commitments in quote, adding that Russia will naturally do that,
Speaker 1: but only if the other side, in this case, the
Speaker 1: United States, agrees to the same and will also extradite
Speaker 1: extra dike corresponding criminals to the Russian Federation. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is some bold claims here, y'all. This unexpected demand has
Speaker 1: reportedly surfaced in the back channel discussion surrounding atential ceasefire
Speaker 1: in Ukraine. Putin insistence on including Fauci's extradition as part
Speaker 1: of the deal has raised eyebrows in diplomatic circles, with
Speaker 1: many viewing it as unconventional tactic in the high stakes
Speaker 1: geopolitical chess game.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think he should be held accountable for all
Speaker 4: of his crimes, just like the Gates Foundation. So I
Speaker 4: think it's a positive thing. Hopefully they actually do it
Speaker 4: since Biden pardon him.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I am I would not be terribly
Speaker 1: heartbroken if Fauci spends the rest of his life taking
Speaker 1: hot dicks to the throat in a Russian goolag. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. That's that is a solid move. And
Speaker 1: I also really really would like there to be a
Speaker 1: peace negotiation between Russian and Ukraine. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly what that looks like. Who's going to concede,
Speaker 1: what amounts of land or resources or whatever the case
Speaker 1: is going to be, but I do want there to
Speaker 1: be a ceasefire in that area. That's not good for
Speaker 1: business for anybody. That being said, Man, would that not
Speaker 1: be a solid slab of icing on top of that cake?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what a time to be alive, What
Speaker 1: a time to be Now this also could be interesting
Speaker 1: to begin a precedence for other types because Fauci, although
Speaker 1: he's an American, he represented the World Health Organization, did
Speaker 1: he not?
Speaker 2: He did? So?
Speaker 1: Would it not be Would this possibly not be a
Speaker 1: legal precedence for other countries to also take legal action
Speaker 1: against foreign medical actors, not doctors, actors who and COVID
Speaker 1: is a wonderful example of this. But there has been
Speaker 1: other really horrible things done in the name of medicine
Speaker 1: to other countries for decades now. If this does go through,
Speaker 1: this could possibly lead to other medical actors being extradited
Speaker 1: to other countries to face criminal charges, even if they
Speaker 1: were exonerated in their home country. That would be great.
Speaker 1: I don't know if America will play ball in that regard.
Speaker 1: I don't believe Trump's got any I don't think it
Speaker 1: would be any love loss for Trump to send Fauci
Speaker 1: to Russia. Gonna be honest with you, But there could
Speaker 1: be other people and other actors that may It may
Speaker 1: not go over so smoothly. This is interesting. Go ahead, raven.
Speaker 5: I found he was working on in twenty fourteen. Okay,
Speaker 5: I'll give you a guess. It's one of the deadliest viruses, Ebola.
Speaker 1: Yep, oh, forgot about ebola. That was the shit back there.
Speaker 4: So he was involved in the researchery leading to a
Speaker 4: Bola virus, including the development and the investigation of the
Speaker 4: vaccine candidate being tested on humans in the National Institutes
Speaker 4: of Health. He also played a pivotal role in the
Speaker 4: response to the Ebola epidemic at that time.
Speaker 5: Time.
Speaker 1: So so Biden made it to where he cannot be
Speaker 1: charged for anything he did in Africa as far back
Speaker 1: as twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4: Oh, I found a thing from MSN talking about the backsight.
Speaker 1: Me go ahead MSN. Yeah, that's that's more of a
Speaker 1: liberal leaning publication. But at the same time, if this
Speaker 1: is just what it's gonna be, this is what's gonna be,
Speaker 1: regardless of who's writing about it. Wow. I mean, Kyle,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 5: It looks like he's trying to they're trying to cover
Speaker 5: his ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's because he was getting funding
Speaker 1: from all of these people. Because boy oh boy, talking
Speaker 1: back in twenty fourteen, that means that was under the
Speaker 1: Obama administration. That that's a whole other level of uh
Speaker 1: of shitheads that would be getting held accountable. Kyle, what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2: Brother?
Speaker 1: We've been talking about vaccines. You've been kind of quiet.
Speaker 3: I don't pay attention to I just listen and learn that.
Speaker 2: Well. My thinke on this is I think the reason
Speaker 2: some people that fout she wants to get a vaccine
Speaker 2: for everything like cancer, AIDS and everything else is that
Speaker 2: I think people associate healthcare in their brains, in a
Speaker 2: region of their brain that's really close to the region
Speaker 2: for religion and politics and all the other really important
Speaker 2: stuff that can motivate people in very serious ways. That's
Speaker 2: why every ancient religion has a lot of teachings about
Speaker 2: health care and nutrition, whether it's leprosy or kosher laws
Speaker 2: or helal laws and stuff like that. And anyone who
Speaker 2: can heal people gets perceived as having the power of
Speaker 2: God on their side, including Jesus. I think that was
Speaker 2: a big part of Jesus's healings. Everywhere people see somebody
Speaker 2: heal somebody and go, oh, man, this guy must be
Speaker 2: in touch with the gods. And I think that's something
Speaker 2: that the medical establishment these days kind of craves. They
Speaker 2: want that power in the minds of the people. They
Speaker 2: want to be regarded as gods among men. And if
Speaker 2: you can heal diseases then, and if you come up
Speaker 2: with vaccines, I think that's where they think a lot
Speaker 2: of their authority comes from, which is why they spend
Speaker 2: so much time trying to develop new vaccines for stuff.
Speaker 1: There's absolutely correlations between that. I could see that, you know,
Speaker 1: having healers, regardless of religion or area of the world.
Speaker 1: If you had somebody who was a healer, whether that
Speaker 1: was herbal or with the laying of hands or whatever
Speaker 1: the case was, they clearly had a gift from God
Speaker 1: or from the gods or whatever. They were more tuned
Speaker 1: to the other side because health and spiritual health have
Speaker 1: always been directly connected into human psyche. So I think
Speaker 1: you're really onto something with that, Tony Gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you. Wow, Raven, you just put something else up here?
Speaker 1: Was a Newsweek? Is this? Was that another Newsweek article.
Speaker 5: Or that I'm reading it? It's the MSN one pretty much.
Speaker 4: They're talking about like they are talking about the Wuhan link,
Speaker 4: and it was also talking about like why they pardoned
Speaker 4: him all the way back and like what it's talking about,
Speaker 4: and they're talking about the Senate hearing in November of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one where the Wuhan Institute of Virology, like
Speaker 4: how it was actually linked to Fauci because he worked
Speaker 4: for the National Institutes of Health. And it revealed that
Speaker 4: the Ego Health Alliance was a nonprofit group that was
Speaker 4: led by this guy named Peter, and pretty much coronavirus
Speaker 4: was in bats in twenty fourteen, So the grant. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so this guy was based in a non profit research
Speaker 4: group led by Peter was awarded a grant to study
Speaker 4: potential coronaviruses from bats and twenty fourteen, excuse me, twenty fourteen,
Speaker 4: Around the same time, the US government announces a pause
Speaker 4: on the funding for a new gain of function research
Speaker 4: projects involving influenzas stars and Meers viruses murders.
Speaker 5: I guess the decision was made.
Speaker 4: So the Stars vaccines is what originated covid front, right,
Speaker 4: and that's the vaccine that they gave Stars. The original
Speaker 4: was the vaccines that they gave us on base, and
Speaker 4: so that's why I was never like concerned about getting it.
Speaker 5: I was like, I already got the original.
Speaker 4: So but it's talking about the funded in the two
Speaker 4: phases and how many millions of dollars that it was
Speaker 4: originated in twenty fourteen and then created it concluded in
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5: And so it looks like.
Speaker 4: This and aibola or some of the reasons why he
Speaker 4: got backdated so far is to try to cover his
Speaker 4: ass for every aspect of his potential wrongdoing multiple viruses.
Speaker 1: It's a bull of strategy. Common let's see if it
Speaker 1: works out for him. I feel I have a feeling
Speaker 1: that old Vladimir won't let this just slide on by.
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't know that he had any dog in
Speaker 1: this fight. I mean, I understand everybody, every nation in
Speaker 1: the world suffered in some way, shape or form because
Speaker 1: of COVID and all the all the foolishness, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know that that's kind of the last This is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest curve balls I could have seen
Speaker 1: being thrown down as far as a peace deal being negotiated.
Speaker 1: Was like, I mean, I now, I'm wondering if his
Speaker 1: justification for this was those twenty two bio labs that
Speaker 1: they found along the Ukrainian Russian border. Wondering how many
Speaker 1: of those had some sort of CDC or World Health
Speaker 1: Organization ties. I'm wondering how many of those were using
Speaker 1: in moral and unethical human trials for potential COVID, potential ELA,
Speaker 1: whatever the case is. When they found those labs, a
Speaker 1: lot of questions started being asked, and then a lot
Speaker 1: of people immediately dispelled that as rumors and myths and
Speaker 1: tinfoil hat theories, except that they were real. Now one
Speaker 1: hundred percent were real. So I'm wondering if there's not
Speaker 1: a little something extra that Putin's working on on the
Speaker 1: back burner for this that would that would be very interesting.
Speaker 4: Tony didn't Putin like have a whole thing about vaccines
Speaker 4: like a few years ago. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: know this or not, because I know you like pay
Speaker 4: attention to that stuff. But I'm pretty positive that he
Speaker 4: called out the WHO, and he called out Gates and
Speaker 4: called out somebody else too, because he was like pretty
Speaker 4: much against what they were trying to do. I just
Speaker 4: can't remember exactly what he said. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you guys both remember that or not, but I know
Speaker 4: that he was gaining traction or being spoken about for
Speaker 4: being against vaccines.
Speaker 2: I wish I had something to contribute, but I don't
Speaker 2: recall Putin saying much of anything about vaccines. I think
Speaker 2: Russia developed their own vaccine for COVID. Actually, who knows
Speaker 2: if it actually worked at all. So did China. I
Speaker 2: think they had their own and they injected everybody with
Speaker 2: some bullshit and then moved on from it like we did. Basically,
Speaker 2: I want to.
Speaker 1: Say, I remember hearing about Putin throwing shade towards the
Speaker 1: CDC and the WHO and Bill Gates and all of
Speaker 1: these things, But the articles that were being at least
Speaker 1: in America, the articles that were being written about it
Speaker 1: were more negative towards Putin, like saying, oh, look at
Speaker 1: him trying to throw shade at all of our medical
Speaker 1: advancements because they're not Russian medical advancements. He's just such
Speaker 1: a tire and blah blah blah blah, and it fit
Speaker 1: the narrative. They pretty much redoing anything they could to
Speaker 1: make any story fit the narrative of him being Satan.
Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, that's about what I heard.
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't surprise me if the kernel of truth
Speaker 1: on that was that he did make a statement despaired
Speaker 1: towards CDC and WHO, and then the media took it
Speaker 1: and ran with it in that direction. But okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I remember correctly, the Russian vaccine for COVID
Speaker 2: was called Sputnick five and it came out in late
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, actually slightly before the Pfizer and Maderna ones.
Speaker 1: And blood Nick five is in like the satellite, but
Speaker 1: they named it five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what it's called, but I'm
Speaker 2: just going off my memory here. And some of Eastern
Speaker 2: Europe was trying to get it, and the EU was
Speaker 2: trying to tell them, no, no, no, you got to take
Speaker 2: the piser one instead. None of these vaccines really worked
Speaker 2: that well, and everyone just kind of moved on and
Speaker 2: tried to forget about it. That's my impression.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds about right, because I'm whenever people were
Speaker 1: getting these vaccines and we're still catching COVID afterwards, right,
Speaker 1: then should have been a clear indication that people need
Speaker 1: to stop just don't don't go to it. And then
Speaker 1: the fact that the government was offering to hey, people
Speaker 1: to come in and get the vaccines, and they were
Speaker 1: trying to entice them with anything and everything, gift cards
Speaker 1: and all of this. It's like the government doesn't give
Speaker 1: stuff out to people because they care. Even even the
Speaker 1: most pro left or pro right, or pro centrist viewpoint
Speaker 1: can look at that situation and say that something doesn't
Speaker 1: smell quite right here.
Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, remember how the efficacy kept going down
Speaker 2: from ninety five percent to ninety, then the eighty seventy sixty,
Speaker 2: and then they stopped reporting on it. Oh, and also
Speaker 2: remember the week the vaccine was announced by Pfizer. It
Speaker 2: was like the day after the election, and Fiji said,
Speaker 2: we got something, folks, it's ninety percent effective. And then
Speaker 2: two days after that, Madertna said, oh, guess what, folks,
Speaker 2: we got something. It's ninety five percent effective. And then
Speaker 2: the day after that, Pfizer said, oh hey, everybody, we
Speaker 2: reran the numbers. It turns out ours is ninety five
Speaker 2: to two. It's like, okay, come on, you're just adjusting
Speaker 2: what goes into the numerator and the denominator to get
Speaker 2: the the highest number you can. And this is bull crap.
Speaker 2: But everyone had to pretend to believe it for the
Speaker 2: whole year twenty twenty one, and then everyone wanted to
Speaker 2: forget about it. So here we are.
Speaker 4: It looks like you are correct that it's spugneck five.
Speaker 4: I'm reading about it, and one of their main virologists said,
Speaker 4: we have no idea whether this vaccine is safer, whether
Speaker 4: it works, and Putin was like pretty much like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's totally cool.
Speaker 4: They didn't do any phase three drug trials on it.
Speaker 4: It was in their earliest stages, but they released it.
Speaker 4: It looks like that it hasn't so far, hasn't really
Speaker 4: had any adverse.
Speaker 5: Effects, it said.
Speaker 4: Large scale clinical trials eventually happened, with forty thousand people
Speaker 4: scheduled to begin in Russia when they finally released it,
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. But it looks like it hasn't
Speaker 4: done as much damage as the COVID vaccines. Yeah, they
Speaker 4: purchased America purchased the modernas, but it looks like some
Speaker 4: countries were trying to purchase Russia's one. The Arab nations
Speaker 4: were trying to purchase it. Saudi Arabia tried, the Philippines, India,
Speaker 4: Brazil all joined the the clinical trials of spudnek Wait.
Speaker 1: Which nations real quick because that sounded like a lot
Speaker 1: of bricks. Nations.
Speaker 4: Uh, they were Arab, the Arab United Arab, Saudi Arabia, Philippines, India,
Speaker 4: and Brazil. Isn't Brazil, Well, India is where we have
Speaker 4: the big group of vaccines. Brazil is where they constantly
Speaker 4: are having issues with random viruses and all sorts of
Speaker 4: stuff happening.
Speaker 5: And the Arab nations. Oh that's interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they all got together and were on this vaccine train.
Speaker 1: That is a very interesting collection of countries to try
Speaker 1: to do something with a Russian vaccine. Now, let me
Speaker 1: ask y'all something conspiratorially minded or not here? Seeing as
Speaker 1: how Fauci was pardon in America and Trump is doing
Speaker 1: some moving right now, He's making things happen regardless of
Speaker 1: people's feelings on it. Is it possible that Trump reached
Speaker 1: out to Putin and asked him to do this and
Speaker 1: like straight up picked up the phone, was like, hey, Vlad, listen,
Speaker 1: I can promise you cooperation on this extradition. We need
Speaker 1: him on the chopping block, and I can't do that
Speaker 1: anymore because of the predecessor. You you mind putting in
Speaker 1: a phone call to some guys like, is this is
Speaker 1: this within the Roman possibility? Or am I being a
Speaker 1: little too extra here?
Speaker 2: I think it is. I'm a little surprised. I had
Speaker 2: no knowledge of this before tonight, but I imagine that
Speaker 2: going into these Ukraine peace talks. Both sides are scrambling
Speaker 2: for whatever bargaining ships. Figuratively they can come up with
Speaker 2: to say, well, what if we ask for Snowden? What
Speaker 2: if we ask for It's probably a lot of speculation
Speaker 2: like that going on right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, and I mean, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it could be a tactic. It could all
Speaker 1: be a tactic, right just to throw out, uh, you
Speaker 1: know what's it called?
Speaker 2: Like that?
Speaker 1: In the bartering game, if you you're trying to buy something,
Speaker 1: you go super high, they offer you something super low,
Speaker 1: and then you find a common middle ground, and everybody
Speaker 1: feels like they won. I wonder if we're not gonna
Speaker 1: start seeing some other wild things be thrown out there.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll come through to fruition. Maybe they don't. I please, please,
Speaker 1: sweet baby Jesus, I hope this one comes through to fruition.
Speaker 1: I would love to see Fauci and a gulag. American
Speaker 1: prisons are too nice for him. I'm gonna be very
Speaker 1: honest with you to be actually, I wouldn't mind seeing
Speaker 1: him in an African jail. That would be dope. But
Speaker 1: you know, I guess I guess we'll just see how
Speaker 1: it plays out. But man, what a what an extra
Speaker 1: chip to throw down on the poker table though.
Speaker 2: Bro, Yeah, yeah, I bet. I mean, I'm not pulling
Speaker 2: out too much hope that it'll happen. I'd say it's
Speaker 2: a very low chance. He's probably got his ass covered
Speaker 2: in lots of other ways. But yeah, unexpected things might
Speaker 2: happen now.
Speaker 1: That you brought up Snowden. Now, that would be interesting too.
Speaker 1: If they made a deal to where we'll trade you
Speaker 1: Fauci for Snowden, that would be wild. Although I just
Speaker 1: have a feeling that if Snowden was to return to
Speaker 1: the United States right now, Trump would pardon him for
Speaker 1: whatever crimes may or may not be listed on him still,
Speaker 1: and he would go into some form of protective custody
Speaker 1: or something like that. I don't think Snowden would willingly
Speaker 1: come back, even if Trump told him that he'd be
Speaker 1: safe to do so, because he knows how dangerous it
Speaker 1: is for him in his position, and I don't think
Speaker 1: he would feel safe. But I could see some type
Speaker 1: of finagling happen happening as far as these deal makes
Speaker 1: are concerned, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, the only way he'd be in a bargaining chip
Speaker 2: would be if he was going to be prosecuted in
Speaker 2: the US. So if if to get him all the
Speaker 2: way here just to pardon them, I don't think our
Speaker 2: country would do that. I don't think Trump would do that.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Russians would have an incentive to
Speaker 2: do that. He wouldn't just he wouldn't be worth anything
Speaker 2: on that front anymore.
Speaker 1: For this negotiation, what about that marine that's still in
Speaker 1: custody in Russia. They were trying to bring him back
Speaker 1: but instead sent Britney Griner's ass back home. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be mad at a Fallaci for the marine transference.
Speaker 4: I for that.
Speaker 2: That could be a good bargaining ship then.
Speaker 1: Yeh know, I hope so I take that as an upsale. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest trade ups of the century.
Speaker 2: Man m Yeah. For that negotiation, I think mainly the
Speaker 2: biggest sticking point is where the new border is going
Speaker 2: to be. Are there going to be no new borders?
Speaker 2: I think there kind of have to be, and where
Speaker 2: are they going to be. It's going to be like
Speaker 2: the Versailles negotiation or something, or even the post World
Speaker 2: War two idea where the new borders are going to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now that it's also going to be interesting too,
Speaker 1: because if the nations of the world come together and
Speaker 1: pretty much tell Ukraine, hey, the oblasts that you lost,
Speaker 1: they're gone. Now those are now Russian territory. I understand
Speaker 1: that they the all encompassing day are going to see
Speaker 1: this as well. If Russia could do this and get
Speaker 1: away with it, what's to stop them from doing the
Speaker 1: same thing in Nepoland, What's to stop them from doing
Speaker 1: the same thing into this place, this place, whatever. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, if NATO, well, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: if NATO stops taking in new nations, but if anything,
Speaker 1: Putin's invasion in Ukraine made two or three more countries
Speaker 1: join NATO and has made NATO start actually upping their
Speaker 1: military spending to the correct amount. I might add, too,
Speaker 1: many nations have gone under as far as what their
Speaker 1: GDP is supposed to be going towards their military spending,
Speaker 1: so I don't know, Yeah, it's supposed to be two percent. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I think it's like half of the countries do not
Speaker 1: spend that on their military. So it's like the entire
Speaker 1: reason for NATO. First of all, when the Soviet Union
Speaker 1: felt we had no more need for NATO. First off,
Speaker 1: right out the rid if y'all wanted to create some
Speaker 1: sort of new League of nations, new grouping of countries
Speaker 1: to come together and try to formulate a new thing
Speaker 1: where Russia could be invited to the table too.
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: But yeah, NATO should have been shut down decades ago.
Speaker 1: These other countries that are joining it now out of
Speaker 1: fear and or solidarity against the current Russian regime. It's messy.
Speaker 1: It's very messy. I don't know. I don't know how
Speaker 1: these maps will be redrawn to make peace happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Finland and Sweden were the two that joined recently.
Speaker 2: And in terms of Sweden, I saw this kind of
Speaker 2: off the wall story about how when COVID started, Sweden
Speaker 2: was not a part of NATE and that may be
Speaker 2: part of why Sweden did not overreact the same way
Speaker 2: all the other NATO member states did. And there's also
Speaker 2: other unique aspects there, like the Swedish constitution is from
Speaker 2: the sixteen hundreds and it guarantees all Swedish citizens have
Speaker 2: freedom to travel anywhere, so you can't lock down the country.
Speaker 2: And there was even an aspect of Greta Thunberg. Making
Speaker 2: a trip through Germany to Switzerland and admitting that COVID
Speaker 2: was a major threat in early twenty twenty would have
Speaker 2: made Greta Thunberg look bad, so the left wing parties
Speaker 2: in Sweden didn't want to do that. So the combination
Speaker 2: of all these kind of random factors made Sweden not
Speaker 2: react to COVID as politically as much as the rest
Speaker 2: of the world did, and they locked down the least.
Speaker 2: They only ever had about thirty percent of people wearing masks,
Speaker 2: there were no mask mandates, and they ended up with
Speaker 2: the best all cause mortality rate through Europe if you
Speaker 2: can trust numbers. But I trust that number because I
Speaker 2: like it and it seems true, So it's true in
Speaker 2: my hyperreality.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, Greta Thumberg, that's the name I haven't
Speaker 1: heard in a hot minute. Is she is? She still
Speaker 1: trying to be a juvenile activist or something?
Speaker 2: What is she?
Speaker 1: Like twelve? When she first when I was like, how
Speaker 1: dig you? You know all of this stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was so young back then. She must be
Speaker 2: like twenty something.
Speaker 1: Now, oh god, now she's a college aged girl still
Speaker 1: doing it. Eh h, it's gross. Yeah, Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: have been a bad look during COVID to have her
Speaker 1: go out and do those things so I could m
Speaker 1: M m. Geopolitics is a weird, weird system to get
Speaker 1: involved in, especially her parents. Weren't they state actors?
Speaker 2: Actors? I don't know. I say that you want to
Speaker 2: know more about that than I do. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: gonna talk a little more about Russia. Actually, please do
Speaker 2: let's go, because well, I mean, it's slow going in Ukraine.
Speaker 2: This thing is taken forever. I think the Russians are
Speaker 2: taking their time because they think time is on their side.
Speaker 2: But they're slowly, slowly kicking the Ukrainians out of the
Speaker 2: Kursk Oblast. The last city to go is called Suja,
Speaker 2: and I think it'll probably take another month at least
Speaker 2: before they kick the Ukrainians out of Suja. They've completely
Speaker 2: gotten the easternmost province of Lugansk, and they got like
Speaker 2: half or two thirds of all of the other three
Speaker 2: big ones Zaporosia, Harson and Dunyevsk. And I think they're
Speaker 2: just gonna keep on slowly, taking a kilometer or a
Speaker 2: week or whatever it is, and they're eventually going to
Speaker 2: push all the way to the historic borders of these states,
Speaker 2: these obolosti, and unless a peace deal can be reached
Speaker 2: before that, in which case there will be a border
Speaker 2: drawn within these disputed territories, kind of like there was
Speaker 2: in Jammun Kashmir between India and Pakistan, because those states
Speaker 2: existed with different borders before world before the partition in
Speaker 2: nineteen forty seven, and now they're both like halfway exist
Speaker 2: in India and the other half in Pakistan. I think
Speaker 2: these Ukrainian oblasty could end up kind of like that,
Speaker 2: where the historic borders don't matter that much anymore and
Speaker 2: there's a new border kind of going directly through these territories.
Speaker 2: I think that's very possible because neither side is advancing
Speaker 2: very easily. This is like toward the end of World
Speaker 2: War One, where it was just so hard to move
Speaker 2: the front line a kilometer this way or that way.
Speaker 2: And they're accustomed to this attrition warfare now, so the
Speaker 2: movement's slow. It's no longer blitzkrig It's. Things are moving
Speaker 2: really slow, and it'd be better to freeze everything where
Speaker 2: it is right now, so it would be I could
Speaker 2: see that would stop the Russians from taking the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Well, has the thing now that US will not be
Speaker 1: supplying Ukraine with any more money, any more weapons, anymore anything.
Speaker 1: Ukraine doesn't exactly have any more chips to play or
Speaker 1: any more cards to play. I should say it's ah there,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there are other countries that are still
Speaker 1: contributing and still giving them things, nowhere near the amount
Speaker 1: of support that America has been giving them. Now that
Speaker 1: Trump has come in and pass that executive order saying basically, look,
Speaker 1: y'all's problem is y'all's problem. We've done enough. Ukraine is
Speaker 1: kind of got their nuts and of ice, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to capitulate, at least in some way, shape or form,
Speaker 1: or decide that they are going to make this the longest, slowest, knockdown,
Speaker 1: drag out brawl until they're no longer a nation. I
Speaker 1: think it would probably be wiser for them to concede
Speaker 1: these oblasty is how you say it in the plural
Speaker 1: form OBLASTI.
Speaker 2: Yeah that.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you educating us on that one, dog cause
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, oh, blasts, but that's incorrect. I
Speaker 1: also hate words a double s like that, like masks, death.
Speaker 1: I hate have to put wasps and extra pss on it.
Speaker 1: It's fucking annoying anyway, But yeah, that would make a
Speaker 1: lot more sense to me. And also I think that
Speaker 1: Russia would probably be more akin to signing that deal.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that they would concede and agree to
Speaker 1: these and let it be or do you think it
Speaker 1: will be similar to the twenty fourteen crimea situation where
Speaker 1: they took it and they said they were satisfied, and
Speaker 1: they said they were good, then they weren't. Do you
Speaker 1: think that maybe a decade from now more of Ukraine
Speaker 1: would be getting looked at with prying eyes by the
Speaker 1: Russian regime.
Speaker 2: I guess there's a small possibility of that. I'll come
Speaker 2: back to that in a moment. In the shorter term,
Speaker 2: I think there is a pretty good chance that the
Speaker 2: government and Key can negotiate some kind of new borders
Speaker 2: because I don't think they're being seriously threatened by being
Speaker 2: completely overthrown within their country. I think part of the
Speaker 2: reason the Nazis spot so hard in World War two
Speaker 2: is that they knew that if they were defeated, that
Speaker 2: their regime was going to completely end. And I don't
Speaker 2: think that Zelenski or his party rob Nardu or the
Speaker 2: state in Kiev feels this kind of existential threat. I
Speaker 2: think a lot of them are looking for a way out,
Speaker 2: an exit, something to save face and to remain in power,
Speaker 2: which was not on the table for the Nazi Party,
Speaker 2: for example, in nineteen forty five. As far as I
Speaker 2: had other thoughts, but now now I got kind of distracted.
Speaker 2: If the Russians they're going to talk or more Ukraine,
Speaker 2: it depends on how much of the remaining Ukrainian population
Speaker 2: has affinity for Russia. And I think I've been gone
Speaker 2: over this before, but more.
Speaker 1: Eastern has an affinity for Russia. More Western is more
Speaker 1: anti Russia, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. Russia has probably already taken the most
Speaker 2: pro Russian spots, and I am not I'm not confident
Speaker 2: that any other place in Ukraine has enough pro Russian
Speaker 2: sentiment that they would spontaneously be moving in that direction
Speaker 2: on their own, or give Russian the Russian government the
Speaker 2: signal that hey, we're ready to be annexed by the
Speaker 2: Russian Federation. I think Russia would be afraid of a
Speaker 2: lot of terrorism. Terrorism within those territories that have tried
Speaker 2: to annex it, and it would try to just not
Speaker 2: over extend itself, which was Napoleon's problem and the problem
Speaker 2: of the Germans and the Nazis. They overextended themselves. I
Speaker 2: think the Russians are actually pretty restrained. They they could
Speaker 2: have They almost did conquer much of central Ukraine, and
Speaker 2: they pulled back and I think.
Speaker 1: They did well in the initial Poliv Yeah, yeah, back
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: I mean they pulled back well, they got defeated, they
Speaker 2: got pushed out.
Speaker 1: I know they had a road jam for seventy miles
Speaker 1: dog that was and to be fair, that was a
Speaker 1: logistical fault on their end. They I think they overestimated
Speaker 1: their abilities by leaps and bounds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they made a lot of mistakes. They got pushed
Speaker 2: out and they did not They did not take a
Speaker 2: lot of risk to try to get those territories back,
Speaker 2: like the Butcha area or the area is around Kiev,
Speaker 2: or Izium or Harkoff. Harkuff would probably be the next
Speaker 2: major pro Russian place to fall, if there were any,
Speaker 2: But I think it's unrealistic.
Speaker 1: They currently hold Odessa, do they not?
Speaker 2: Ukraine still holds Odessa.
Speaker 1: See, I could see that being something that they would
Speaker 1: want for nothing else the port.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Russia, Yeah, I can see that too, but
Speaker 2: it's still a kind of a gamble, like how much
Speaker 2: you want to pay to get that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what cost? You know what I mean? But even still,
Speaker 1: like Russia's never been one to even if it's a
Speaker 1: pyrrhic victory, they still see it as a victory. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that is a mark again them by
Speaker 1: any means, because the history is all right that they
Speaker 1: did in fact win that region, even that they did
Speaker 1: had you know, X amount of human life costs and
Speaker 1: equipment costs and all that. But I see what you're
Speaker 1: saying as far as uh, you said not Kharkiv, or
Speaker 1: did you say uh the next year you said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kharkoff is mostly a Russian speaking city, and you know,
Speaker 2: the Russians called Kharkov and the Ukrainians called Kharkiv. However,
Speaker 2: in the Ukrainian language, when you decline it in the
Speaker 2: like ablative case or the genitive case, it reverts back
Speaker 2: to karpovar Kharkov, Carko. The oh comes right back, So
Speaker 2: I say krkof same for Kiev in the genitive and
Speaker 2: the dative and everything else, it becomes Kieva and Kievu.
Speaker 2: So the Ukrainian language, it's it's kind of like the
Speaker 2: Cajun version of Russian a little bit. It's yeah, you
Speaker 2: kind of a bastardized.
Speaker 1: So it only makes sense to them kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these Sramic peoples that they want a lot of them,
Speaker 2: especially in the Balkans. They want to assert their identity,
Speaker 2: so they assert that we have our own language, but
Speaker 2: you know, we say this word a little bit different
Speaker 2: from our neighbors. So they assert that they have a
Speaker 2: new language. And a lot of this linguistic stuff is
Speaker 2: very arbitrary, But I refuse to believe that Sina and
Speaker 2: Slovn China are really two different languages, or that Serbian
Speaker 2: written in Latin alphabet or Serbian written in Cyrillic alphabet
Speaker 2: are really two different languages. But the differences are important
Speaker 2: to them. They feel different from each other, and they
Speaker 2: try to assert that our languages are different just so
Speaker 2: that they can carve out unique identities. And even in
Speaker 2: English people do this. I think that's part of where
Speaker 2: the Cajun dialect comes from and part of where ebonics
Speaker 2: comes from, because they have their own way of talking
Speaker 2: and that signals that they're within their own in group.
Speaker 1: I mean you could look at that even within the
Speaker 1: American dialects of English, like you said ebonics as opposed
Speaker 1: to a Bostonian accent, as opposed to a West Coast accent,
Speaker 1: as opposed to a Southern accent, even though on paper
Speaker 1: writing down the sentence that you're trying to convey may
Speaker 1: look the same the way it is said, Because I mean,
Speaker 1: language is the predication for cultural right differences, and with
Speaker 1: that comes a lot of things. Yes, religion and food
Speaker 1: and music and all the other things too, but language
Speaker 1: is one of those things that correct me if I'm wrong, Raven.
Speaker 1: But from a anthropological I think I might have said
Speaker 1: that one right standpoint, language is where the basis and
Speaker 1: the predication for most cultural diversity comes from. So when
Speaker 1: a new nation would or a nation is trying to
Speaker 1: show that they are so much different than their neighbors,
Speaker 1: they would say it in ways that would make it
Speaker 1: independent from them. Like, for instance, El Salvadorians speak completely
Speaker 1: different from Honduran even though it's all Spanish, and if
Speaker 1: they were to write down the sentences, it looks exactly Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the dialect like a lot of southern Southern South
Speaker 4: American languages.
Speaker 5: They have a.
Speaker 4: Very delicate dialect difference and nuances of how they speak
Speaker 4: and speech patterns.
Speaker 5: So like they have some speak faster and more kind
Speaker 5: of like ah, like they kind.
Speaker 4: Of like bring it up and then down and like,
Speaker 4: and they have like and they can tell instantly from
Speaker 4: like three words where you're from, and each like little
Speaker 4: village has their own kind of thing too. It's a
Speaker 4: part of anthropology. It's actually they have like an entire
Speaker 4: that's their own. Like thing people study is language. I've
Speaker 4: taken some courses in it and stuff. It's it's interesting
Speaker 4: how and how they actually like blend.
Speaker 5: It's it's a.
Speaker 4: Way to learn how to actually communicate with other tribes
Speaker 4: quote unquote, and then like blend the languages together. If
Speaker 4: you start you know, incorporating or you live together, then
Speaker 4: they make their own speech patterns and so then it
Speaker 4: blends into a whole nother speech pattern and so like
Speaker 4: how I have like where I'm from, most people don't
Speaker 4: have an accent, but I've always lived out further, I
Speaker 4: have a weird kind of accent, and then I live
Speaker 4: down here for so long I have a blended accent,
Speaker 4: So I say things really different and I don't sound
Speaker 4: like I'm from anywhere, so yeah, it's kind of it's
Speaker 4: kind of a weird thing.
Speaker 1: And then as far as Ukraine is concerned, there is
Speaker 1: a lot of Russian speakers in Ukraine. Although to that point,
Speaker 1: even saying Russian speaking, Siberian Russia is very different from
Speaker 1: Saint Petersburg, Russia, which is very different from the southern
Speaker 1: side of Russia, and even the way they speak, the
Speaker 1: way they everything about those there's so many cultural differences
Speaker 1: within that one nation, just based off of how large
Speaker 1: it is. So I don't know if, but I could
Speaker 1: also see that being the basis for where they would
Speaker 1: possibly draw lines on the map for the ceasefire and
Speaker 1: for the eventual peace talks based off of I could
Speaker 1: see Russian speaking being a portion of it. Also those
Speaker 1: who self identify as pro Russian, who want to be
Speaker 1: Russian and things like that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before the war, something like sixty or seventy percent
Speaker 2: of the cell phones in Ukraine, the smartphones were set
Speaker 2: to the Russian language, not the Ukrainian one. And you
Speaker 2: can imagine if Louisiana seceded from the United States and
Speaker 2: tried to make Cajun its official language. How many Louisianans
Speaker 2: would really go along with that all the way, You
Speaker 2: per still feel like they want to teach their kids English,
Speaker 2: because if you speak English, you can talk to a
Speaker 2: billion people, and if you speak Cajun you can only
Speaker 2: talk to a few million. And Putin has said in
Speaker 2: the past that he believes I don't know a huge
Speaker 2: amount about all the different Russian dialects, but he feels
Speaker 2: like Ukrainian just falls under the umbrella of Russian dialects
Speaker 2: and German, And Okay, I have more experience with German
Speaker 2: because my grandfather was from there and I had to
Speaker 2: learn the language. He was from Bavaria, and there's lots
Speaker 2: of dialects, historical dialects there. They're going away with mass
Speaker 2: media and people moving around now, But German, Chinese, jap
Speaker 2: and they used to be a large group of different dialects,
Speaker 2: and there were significant unification movements to try to force
Speaker 2: everybody to speak the same way, right, the same way,
Speaker 2: in order to unify those countries, because the idea is
Speaker 2: we can't be unified unless we're all speaking the same language.
Speaker 2: And Nikita Khrushchov, he made a big deal about trying
Speaker 2: to force everybody in the Soviet Union to speak Russian
Speaker 2: instead of speaking Estonian and stuff. Estonian doesn't even Slavic.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's not the best example. He felt like, Ukrainians,
Speaker 2: come on, just write and speak Russian. Sooner we can
Speaker 2: all speak Russian. We're gonna we're gonna make so much
Speaker 2: economic efficiency by being able to communicate with each other better.
Speaker 2: But to people who are in there, who are in
Speaker 2: their own in group, and they want to speak the
Speaker 2: way they speak to preserve that in group, some things
Speaker 2: are more important than the line going up, and they
Speaker 2: prefer to keep separate rather than blinding in with everybody else.
Speaker 1: Absolutely your point. Even like Louisiana, I forget which governor was.
Speaker 1: I think Huey Long gets attributed for this one, but
Speaker 1: it really wasn't him that basically said that Cajun fringe
Speaker 1: is no longer going to be taught or spoken in schools.
Speaker 1: Cut to today's world where less than two percent of
Speaker 1: Louisiana even understands or knows more than a few passing
Speaker 1: phrases of Cajun fringe. And that was all part of
Speaker 1: that process. And because of that, I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of us have lost that section of our culture. Honestly,
Speaker 1: aside from the the uh, the normal or I won't
Speaker 1: say the normal, the catchphrases that people just kind of
Speaker 1: learned that anybody who watches TV or have been to
Speaker 1: Mardy Graul would have picked up. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: gone that round saying with Irish. Hell, Irish Gaelic has
Speaker 1: only spoke by less than two percent of the country,
Speaker 1: and they're trying to give it a resurgency now, especially
Speaker 1: with the Irish movement of trying to be very pro
Speaker 1: and independent. Ireland from the UK has gotten more credence
Speaker 1: behind it. But yeah, there and not just Russia made
Speaker 1: these attempts to stand dies the Russian language to their people.
Speaker 1: America did that too, many of their citizens throughout the year.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Here's another thing. If you go through the Wikipedia list
Speaker 2: of languages, there's not just one language for many countries.
Speaker 2: If you try to look up the German languages, a
Speaker 2: lot of those German dialects up here in the list
Speaker 2: as their own language, like Bavarian or plat Deutsch. And
Speaker 2: if you click on some of those articles, especially if
Speaker 2: you already know a little bit of German, you'll just
Speaker 2: laugh at how hilarious they like. And there's even a
Speaker 2: Scottish language in Wikipedia. It's it's labeled Scotts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Scottish Gaelic is completely different from Irish Gaelic.
Speaker 1: It's wild. It's like I'm talking.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about like Scottish English.
Speaker 1: So their slang is so heavy that it's listed as
Speaker 1: its own dialect.
Speaker 2: It is. Yeah. I wish I could bring something up
Speaker 2: right now, if I could go from memory. It's something
Speaker 2: like welcome to the lead blah blah blah. And there's
Speaker 2: Wikipedia articles in Scottish English. They care about their own
Speaker 2: in group.
Speaker 1: Basically, I mean, if you ever hear Scottish people, like
Speaker 1: real true Scottish people talking to other Scottish people, you
Speaker 1: could pick up on a word or two they're saying,
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. That is not English that most
Speaker 1: people outside of Scotland could understand. So like, fair enough,
Speaker 1: but I mean the same could be said for most
Speaker 1: of Ireland too, especially when you get a couple of
Speaker 1: beers in them. Good god, they start they start rambling on.
Speaker 1: I don't understand any of that. Have you seen the
Speaker 1: example of Australians when like an American goes and hangs
Speaker 1: out with their Australian friends and they're just having a
Speaker 1: conversation and basically they're saying like, Hey, you want to
Speaker 1: go to the bar after work? Yeah, bro, I'll meet
Speaker 1: you there. What they're saying is not that at all.
Speaker 1: It's very strange. It's hilarious. Actually saw this one that
Speaker 1: was like, no worries, mate, not here to spide us.
Speaker 1: And they walked off and it was like, you're not
Speaker 1: here to do what he's basically saying, he's not here
Speaker 1: to sweat the small shit, but in that language and
Speaker 1: then that dialect that means that, and it's like, oh, okay, sure,
Speaker 1: so I'm here. I'm here for all the dialectic differences.
Speaker 1: The shit's hilarious. But all right, So as far as
Speaker 1: the Ukraine situation goes, I'm excited to see how it
Speaker 1: gets played, it gets situated and handled. Uh. Y'all know,
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly an anti war person. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, when the death toll gets to a certain number,
Speaker 1: it's time to just go home. It's time to call
Speaker 1: it quits. The business has been made, the money has
Speaker 1: been made where it need to be made. The shitheads
Speaker 1: have bankrolled their shithead ordeals for long enough, it's it's
Speaker 1: time to just pack it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree, and time to just end it. And
Speaker 2: you know, the Germans, they could have even escalated a
Speaker 2: little more toward the end of World War Two. They
Speaker 2: could have used chemical weapons. Thank god they didn't have
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons. I don't know if Ukraine has kemmical weapons
Speaker 2: or I don't think they have nuclear weapons anymore. But
Speaker 2: luckily we don't need to worry about nuclear.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think that they do. I could see chemical
Speaker 1: and biological and not just because of those biolabs that
Speaker 1: were found. I mean, Ukraine has been operated as pretty
Speaker 1: much the wild wild West as far as what was
Speaker 1: and was not allowed to go down there. Speaking of
Speaker 1: you brought up earlier the party that Zelenski is a
Speaker 1: part of. Right now, I'm just gonna write off the rip.
Speaker 1: Assume it's the liberal leaning party he was an actor
Speaker 1: in all before that, was there a more conservative or
Speaker 1: right side leaning party in charge? I honestly, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Well, let's see the most right wing party, if you
Speaker 2: can call him, that would be the Spaboda party. Spobota
Speaker 2: means freedom and they're nationalists and they're from the western
Speaker 2: part of the country, supernationalists. There's a couple other parties.
Speaker 2: One of them is called the Party of Regions. I
Speaker 2: think that was Victory Party and that was the pro
Speaker 2: Russian party. There was another party years ago called about
Speaker 2: the Kivshchina, which means the Patriotic Party. It was headed
Speaker 2: by Yuliyo Timoshenko and that was that was a middle
Speaker 2: of the road party, kind of like center right Ukrainian,
Speaker 2: not pro Russian party, but not as far to the
Speaker 2: right as Swaboda, which would be like they're accused of
Speaker 2: being neo Nazis. Basically in western Ukraine, there's actually a
Speaker 2: lot of unreconstructed Nazism. There's people who they're descended from
Speaker 2: collaborators of the Nazis. They want to read, you know,
Speaker 2: remake Galicia, which was in Austrian territory. They think of
Speaker 2: themselves as as Aryan German and superior to the Slavic people,
Speaker 2: even though they speak a Slavic language.
Speaker 1: Works out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these these far western Ukrainians and they vote like
Speaker 2: eighty percent, uh, you know, right wing. Anyway, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to look up on Wikipedia right now, Rob Nerodu. But
Speaker 2: I was stuck in the Scottish language. Yeah, nothing's coming up.
Speaker 1: But the only reason why I'm asking that is because
Speaker 1: Zelensky being on the left or or left er maybe
Speaker 1: not left ist side of the political spectrum. When he
Speaker 1: leaves office, and I don't even know if he'll get
Speaker 1: re elected, I don't know the Ukrainian people see him.
Speaker 1: At least in the beginning, they saw him as like
Speaker 1: a hero for Ukraine. Are the ones that didn't want
Speaker 1: to become Russian anyway. These days, because he has become
Speaker 1: basically the international beggar, I don't know if he is
Speaker 1: seen in such high regard by his constituents anymore. I
Speaker 1: could see them going to the far opposite side as
Speaker 1: a way too overcorrect for the things that he may
Speaker 1: or may not have done. Same way that in America
Speaker 1: we went Trump Biden Trump, that was like a hard
Speaker 1: one way, hard the other way, and now hard back
Speaker 1: this way. I don't know how that's gonna look for Ukraine.
Speaker 1: But if they because a part of the ceasefire agreement
Speaker 1: is going to be that they stop there their attempt
Speaker 1: to become a NATO allied nation, and I for sure
Speaker 1: that's going to be a part of it. I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that they don't get a new president that's going to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: not really worried about what was signed, I'm here now,
Speaker 1: we're going to do this anyway, and then like rekickstart
Speaker 1: it all. I don't know what to expect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he'll hold on to power. I
Speaker 2: think it's going to be kind of like when the
Speaker 2: Kaiser's government was defeated in World War One and he
Speaker 2: had to leave the country and he lived out the
Speaker 2: rest of his life in exile in Holland.
Speaker 1: Do you think Lenski will get exiled after all this
Speaker 1: is said and done.
Speaker 2: I think that he's going to be replaced by somebody
Speaker 2: else and he'll leave the country somewhat voluntarily and just
Speaker 2: live comfortably somewhere else, but not in power. Man. I
Speaker 2: keep trying. I'm trying to find this thing, Rob Norodu.
Speaker 2: Nothing comes up, and then I'm dooling servant of the
Speaker 2: people because that's what it translates to. And I'm just
Speaker 2: not very good at listening and clicking at the same time.
Speaker 2: But that party just started, like right in the twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen or seventeen, because he used to have a TV
Speaker 2: show called Sluka Norodu, which means the same thing, serving
Speaker 2: to the people. And he started or other people helped
Speaker 2: him start a political party to help him get elected
Speaker 2: to the government, and he got elected in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: And at the time he was perceived as more of
Speaker 2: a pro Russian figure, kind of, you know, somewhat nationalist
Speaker 2: and also somewhat friendly to Russia. He was a Lewish
Speaker 2: and yeah, talking about Zelenski, he was seen as relatively
Speaker 2: pro Russian at that time, the complete opposite of what
Speaker 2: he's perceived as now. So you know that era is
Speaker 2: not coming back.
Speaker 1: But if that was the case, and he was seen
Speaker 1: as pro Russian, then why would he have been making
Speaker 1: all the attempts to join NATO unless that was more
Speaker 1: for the economic making, the trade deals and all those things.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't necessarily a middle finger to Russia. It
Speaker 1: was more of a pro Ukrainian move.
Speaker 2: I guess I wasn't really paying huge attention. I didn't
Speaker 2: see too much in terms of him trying to join NATO,
Speaker 2: but I remember reading that the idea was floated on
Speaker 2: and off several times since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: I thought that was the reason Russia Invader was because
Speaker 1: Ukraine kept trying to become a NATO nation.
Speaker 2: Well they were talking about it just kind of on
Speaker 2: and off, and it was kind of in the background,
Speaker 2: and Russia just I guess they really wanted to make
Speaker 2: sure that would never happen by you know, and by
Speaker 2: invading and creating so much chaos that can't become a
Speaker 2: NATO member. Wow, that much chaos is going on. But
Speaker 2: looking at the okay, I brought up the Wikipedia for
Speaker 2: the khov Narada and it's over half of this four
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seats are this servant to the People
Speaker 2: Party two hundred and thirty five. And there's many other parties,
Speaker 2: each one with only like five percent kishin which I
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier. There's no Party of Regions, but there's Restoration
Speaker 2: of Ukraine Platform for Life and Peace HOLOS that that
Speaker 2: means voice. It would be GOLOS in Russian, but the
Speaker 2: Ukrainians change everything to an h European Solidarity for the
Speaker 2: Future and DOVIRA and an independent one Man. There's there's
Speaker 2: tons and tons of parties. It's more than the two
Speaker 2: party state. I don't know which one will be in
Speaker 2: charge next or what all of these stand for, but
Speaker 2: it's gonna be some kind of it's gonna be probably
Speaker 2: a party with a different name in Zielenski's gonna leave
Speaker 2: the country. That's my prediction.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know these political affiliations there, man. I mean,
Speaker 1: I understand that most countries don't just have a two
Speaker 1: party system, but I didn't realize it was that diverse
Speaker 1: in that section of Europe.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, parliamentary systems, for some reason lend themselves to
Speaker 2: way more than two parties. So that's why German and
Speaker 2: He's got like five and five big ones and more
Speaker 2: small ones, and so does France. And I don't know
Speaker 2: about England.
Speaker 1: Doesn't Germany play it? I know Switzerland kind of plays
Speaker 1: like this, like they have five presidents, but technically speaking,
Speaker 1: it's like the five biggest political parties leaders are also
Speaker 1: considered the five presidents. However, the one who is in
Speaker 1: charge of the biggest party is the actual president. But
Speaker 1: like they have more of a it's like a I
Speaker 1: don't want to say congress of them, but it's more
Speaker 1: like a collective thought process between it, and they vote
Speaker 1: on pretty much everything. Even though the leader of the
Speaker 1: largest party is seen is the figurehead, it's more of
Speaker 1: a collective voice. Is that kind of how Germany does
Speaker 1: it too?
Speaker 2: I okay, I don't know much about Switzerland. But in
Speaker 2: Germany there's a weird voting process where people can vote
Speaker 2: for a candidate on one line and then vote for
Speaker 2: a party on a different line. And really, yeah, the
Speaker 2: prime the prime minister is not directly elected. I don't
Speaker 2: think the prime minister is directly elected in most countries,
Speaker 2: not even England. I wish I knew more about it.
Speaker 2: All I do know is that there's a lot of
Speaker 2: different parties and the big one in Germany right now,
Speaker 2: or the most attention grabbing one, is the Alternative Deutschland,
Speaker 2: which is the far right party that gets accused of
Speaker 2: being Nazis. They really aren't. And their leader is a
Speaker 2: lady named Alice Videl who's you know, German right wing,
Speaker 2: but she also happens to be lesbian and her wife
Speaker 2: is from Sri Lanka. That's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: But the guy they just elected a new prime minister
Speaker 1: or president or whatever the case is, and he is
Speaker 1: of the far right variety, is he not.
Speaker 2: Germany?
Speaker 1: Yeah? In Germany, the GFB party or whatever the case is,
Speaker 1: and they just took power, and everybody's saying like, this
Speaker 1: is the first time that a quote unquote the first
Speaker 1: time that a quote unquote far right political figure has
Speaker 1: rose to the power in the prominent levels that this
Speaker 1: is since Hitler, and that's why everybody's actually kind of
Speaker 1: side eye glancing him and the party at this time.
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't heard of a guy winning an election yet.
Speaker 2: They're the next election. I just googled it. It's February
Speaker 2: twenty third. But Alice Vitel is the most popular AfD
Speaker 2: or right wing figure in Germany right now. And I
Speaker 2: know we talked about this last week a little bit,
Speaker 2: but on this new Chinese app, Chiao Holm Sho, she
Speaker 2: appears to be really popular. There's lots of posts about
Speaker 2: her because she studied economics for six years in China,
Speaker 2: and there's a fair number of Chinese people who just
Speaker 2: loved her. However, there's a lot of people, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of communists on Hiao hom Shu and they don't
Speaker 2: like her, And there's way more communism there than I
Speaker 2: thought there would be. And I do not find this
Speaker 2: app to be a replacement for TikTok in terms of popularity,
Speaker 2: because it is just over this is a fire hose
Speaker 2: of Chinese and it's not as political as I thought
Speaker 2: would be either. That's that's my overall summary.
Speaker 1: There is Merkel still anywhere in the conversation in Germany
Speaker 1: or is she finally like going to a retirement home somewhere.
Speaker 2: She's been out of office for a couple of years. Okay,
Speaker 2: she She was chancellor until twenty twenty one, and the
Speaker 2: only the guy since then. His name is Olof Schultz. Yeah, ok, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Uncle and Meerical I get, I forget. There's two main
Speaker 2: coalitions over there. There's the kind of right wing one
Speaker 2: which is cd U c s U. They're the Christian
Speaker 2: Democratic Union or Christian Social Union, and the left wing
Speaker 2: one one is called SPD SoC Democrat to Chipartei Deutsch
Speaker 2: Leans and that's basically socialist. I think Uncle Americle was
Speaker 2: the CDU like right wing one. I don't know which
Speaker 2: one Off Schultz is the part of because.
Speaker 1: They do the German killery. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: she was right or left leaning, but I know she
Speaker 1: let in a lot of quote unquote refugees from Arab
Speaker 1: nations that started just destroying Germany.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mainly Syria and Afghanistan and there's still a lot
Speaker 2: of controversial crimes that happen almost every day.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. When her people started getting raped NonStop, her
Speaker 1: answer to that was like, start traveling in groups, y'all.
Speaker 1: We can't stop these people for what they do in
Speaker 1: their comb cultures. We just have to accept them. And
Speaker 1: it was like, ooh, you really really hate being in
Speaker 1: the job that you're in. Good God almighty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder like if somebody had to twist her
Speaker 2: arm to let them all in or what. We just
Speaker 2: don't know. We just see the tip of the iceberg. Really,
Speaker 2: and I don't I don't live and breathe this stuff, so.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, hell, Obama was trying to let them in.
Speaker 1: There was a bunch of European nations that tried letting
Speaker 1: all them. Britain let a bunch of them in, and
Speaker 1: now they have the largest number of knife attacks because
Speaker 1: guns are illegal, because they're evil. But yeah, now you
Speaker 1: have people just getting shanked all over the UK and
Speaker 1: the population, the citizens know who's in charge of this
Speaker 1: and know who to blame, and like, why did y'all
Speaker 1: bring the refugees here when we don't even have enough
Speaker 1: resources to deal with our own shit. But the government officials,
Speaker 1: I don't know if somebody twisted their arm, or if
Speaker 1: they were tantalized by possible trade deals or some sort
Speaker 1: of financial aid from some other nation. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they thought that would be a
Speaker 1: good idea, but so many nations across Europe screwed themselves
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, she was the leader of the CDU Christian
Speaker 2: Democratic Union, so that's kind of the center right party.
Speaker 2: But I'd say that the difference between center right and
Speaker 2: center left in Germany is not even worth worrying about.
Speaker 2: They're so close to the same thing, kind of like
Speaker 2: a lot of people say about Democrats and Republicans. Now
Speaker 2: on the whole migration issue, we're getting into dangerous territory here.
Speaker 2: But for some reason, there's a lot of these immigrant
Speaker 2: aid societies out there that have a lot of Jewish representation,
Speaker 2: whether it's America or Europe. And there's this one figure man,
Speaker 2: what's her name. I'm blanking on it now, I can
Speaker 2: visualize her face, but she says, oh, yeah, Europe's gotta
Speaker 2: lose its lose its historic ethnic identity, and it's got
Speaker 2: to change, and this will be for the good of
Speaker 2: the world. I don't know that they're always pushing for it.
Speaker 1: And that is not good at all. That I understand
Speaker 1: what she's trying to get at. Global unity on the surface,
Speaker 1: and in a hypothetical sense, sounds great, like everybody should
Speaker 1: be able to get along and we should all just
Speaker 1: try to live in a more unified society where you know,
Speaker 1: it's equal across the board, and we don't see it
Speaker 1: as us versus them. It should just be all of
Speaker 1: us as a collective. Yeah, I get it. That's literally
Speaker 1: never going to happen. And you're talking about nations that
Speaker 1: have centuries, if not even longer, standing histories of who
Speaker 1: they are and what they identify as. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: tell the French people to stop being so French. You're
Speaker 1: not going to tell the German people to quit being
Speaker 1: so German about it. Like you, that is a way
Speaker 1: to get fought.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I used to believe that, and now I think
Speaker 2: I don't believe that anymore. The lady's name I was
Speaker 2: blanking on was Barbara Learner respecter, but she's a big,
Speaker 2: you know, mass immigration advocate who's traveled the world and
Speaker 2: advocated for this everywhere. She goes, whether the United States
Speaker 2: or Sweden. She's lived in Sweden for a long time. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Barbara learn respector for anyone who wants to look her up.
Speaker 1: I invite her to do what that one couple did
Speaker 1: and go ahead and try to bicycle across Afghanistan. I
Speaker 1: invite her to do that, and tell me if you
Speaker 1: think that cultures can just blend oh so easily. That
Speaker 1: couple was found beheaded and gang raped, like not even
Speaker 1: two weeks later, but uh, yeah, yeah, because that's that's
Speaker 1: the culture in that area. You're not from here, well
Speaker 1: you're free game and that yeah, wasn't they from France
Speaker 1: or from Switzerland or somewhere. They had some crazy liberal
Speaker 1: ideologies where like they're just people. The news is portraying
Speaker 1: them this way, and it's like, okay, you go ahead
Speaker 1: and take you a little bike ride. Let's see how
Speaker 1: that works out for you. That was That was bad.
Speaker 1: That was bad. And I'm granted, yes, Afghanistan might be
Speaker 1: an extreme example, but a lot of countries around the
Speaker 1: Middle East would have proceeded in very similar manners. Just
Speaker 1: gonna throw that out and uh you know, or or
Speaker 1: go ahead and just take your little bicycle ride across
Speaker 1: uh the Ivory Coast, Soudan, Nigeria. Like you're it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a positive experience, but some people got to
Speaker 1: learn the hard way. I suppose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw kind of graphic photo of two Swedish
Speaker 2: nineteen year old girls who traveled to Algeria in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: They got beheaded. Yeah it was photographed.
Speaker 1: That's another. Yeah, there was a married couple that did
Speaker 1: it once and then there was them. I remember hearing
Speaker 1: about it. I never saw the pictures, but I remember
Speaker 1: hearing about it, and it's like they were nineteen, so
Speaker 1: they were children. They were stupid, and I get that,
Speaker 1: but like, did they really were that ignorant? They really
Speaker 1: thought that the media was it was all that much
Speaker 1: of a lie? Like that is that is wild? Because
Speaker 1: you know, they went there, they weren't covered up the
Speaker 1: right way, and they weren't trying to be respectful of
Speaker 1: their culture. They absolutely thought that it was just gonna
Speaker 1: be fine. Like that's that's I feel like it's chosen stupidity.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the mass media actually does over romanticize
Speaker 2: places like Algeria and say, oh yeah, people are nice,
Speaker 2: the same everywhere and if you're lucky. Yeah, maybe they are,
Speaker 2: but it's easy to get it's too easy to get unlucky.
Speaker 1: If you're a man, you might have a better go
Speaker 1: of it, but that doesn't mean that you're gonna be
Speaker 1: unmolested by any means or nobody's gonna do anything to you.
Speaker 1: I got a buddy of mine in Pakistan, as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, he's invited me so many times to
Speaker 1: come out and check them out. And he's got a
Speaker 1: church he's doing. It's a wonderful ministry and all these things.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, maybe not, dude, maybe maybe not.
Speaker 6: Like I understand that I might not have anything happen
Speaker 6: to me while I'm there, because like, you know, you're
Speaker 6: there and it'll be cool and whatever, but your church
Speaker 6: has been burned to the ground twice in the past decade.
Speaker 1: So and I'm down to come if I could carry
Speaker 1: a weapon, like when I get off the plane, if
Speaker 1: you can like bring me to the bazaar and I
Speaker 1: could grab me a couple of rounds and a couple
Speaker 1: of weapons, Like I'm down, let's do it. But like,
Speaker 1: if I'm not a lie to carry anything while I'm there,
Speaker 1: like no, absolutely not, bro, you know, Muslim, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's under two percent Christian, which is another reason why.
Speaker 1: And this guy, I love him to death. He rides
Speaker 1: his motorcycle with a big old Jesus sticker across the front.
Speaker 1: Like he is a loud and proud, uh you know,
Speaker 1: heart on fire for God type of man. And don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I support him in all of what
Speaker 1: he's doing. But like, I'm not just going to be
Speaker 1: pulling up without some sort of entourage, without some sort
Speaker 1: of protection. Man, I'm sorry, I'm a little too jaded
Speaker 1: on what the real world looks like to people like me.
Speaker 1: And I get that, Like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, nah, yeah. I have an uncle who lived in
Speaker 2: Oman for nine years, which is the country next to Yemen,
Speaker 2: south of Saudi Arabia, and the rest of the family
Speaker 2: was wondering, what the hell are you doing. It was
Speaker 2: a water engineer doing stuff and I don't even know
Speaker 2: what's he was he was in, but he was in
Speaker 2: a place with lots of other Americans and Brits, so
Speaker 2: his kids got to go to school with English speaking
Speaker 2: white kids. But the rest of us just feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, you never know what can happen living there.
Speaker 2: Why do you live there? It just seems so dangerous.
Speaker 2: And then he eventually moved back to the United States
Speaker 2: and then in California. I told my I told some
Speaker 2: of my coworkers about him. I had a co worker
Speaker 2: from Pakistan and co worker from from Iran, and the
Speaker 2: one from Iran said, so, your uncle lived in in
Speaker 2: Oman for nine years and I said, yeah, he totally did.
Speaker 2: And he said, your uncle is C I A I'm
Speaker 2: sure he isn't. He's like, no, I'm sure he is.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he is. I don't think he was. I
Speaker 2: don't think he was.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, the way you're saying that, was it the Egyptian?
Speaker 2: Uh? No. I I didn't know anyone from Egypt, but
Speaker 2: I had a coworker from Pakistan one from Iran, and
Speaker 2: the Iranian guys said, I bet he's the CIA when
Speaker 2: he's English speaking and white and he's living in Oman
Speaker 2: working as an engineer. Nah, he's CIA.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, speaking of Iran or Iran? Excuse me? Have
Speaker 1: y'all heard that America accepted Iranian money to help with
Speaker 1: the LA fires.
Speaker 2: Oh? I saw a story that they were offering help.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we ever accepted it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: they were offering manpower and equipment, and Biden basically told, no,
Speaker 1: we don't need that, but I mean, if you wanted
Speaker 1: to hand us some money, that'd be dope. Iran was
Speaker 1: literally about to send dollars to America to help with
Speaker 1: the fires, and Biden was actually considering this. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he did, we actually accept it this, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I don't y'all.
Speaker 2: I saw a story about how years ago Russia's got
Speaker 2: these and we have them too, these planes that will
Speaker 2: skim a bunch of water up and then you know,
Speaker 2: dunk a million gutin out million, thousands of gallons of
Speaker 2: water on a fire. Yeah, Russia has some tuplev aircraft
Speaker 2: that will that are apparently really good for this and cheaper,
Speaker 2: and they were offering to sell some to California Fire
Speaker 2: and California turn them down. But this was like five
Speaker 2: six years ago. This is before even Ukraine. So I
Speaker 2: saw a story about that too, Because Russia's got a
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of land mass and a lot
Speaker 2: of forests and a lot of fires to fight themselves,
Speaker 2: and they apparently got some really good equipment, but they
Speaker 2: were turned down many years ago for it.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, now I'm reading the article now, as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, is on Newsweek. Iran has offered to
Speaker 1: send rapid response teams to help combat the wildfires in
Speaker 1: la despite deep seated tensions between Washington and Tehran. Newsweek
Speaker 1: reached out to the Iranian mission to the United States
Speaker 1: and the transitional team for President elect Donald Trump for
Speaker 1: comment via email outside of business hours. All right, let's
Speaker 1: see here, what to know Iranian President Mussa Pezzishkian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's actually uh Azerbaijani. Okay, but there's a lot
Speaker 2: of Asari's living in Iran, and it's a hell of
Speaker 2: a name. Pizzesk.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you know how to pronounce it, because boy,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I butchered that. He his administration has
Speaker 1: offered to send firefighters California to help fight the wild
Speaker 1: fires up began January seventh. Uh, the fires consumed approximately
Speaker 1: and this is as of shoots. This article written January fourteenth,
Speaker 1: so a little bit of time since then. At the
Speaker 1: time of this being written, Uh, the fires have consumed
Speaker 1: approximately forty thousand acres, are showing homes and businesses, killing
Speaker 1: at least twenty four people. Three particularly all this stuff.
Speaker 1: According to a report by news outlet I Ran International.
Speaker 1: Fetima Fatima mo herjar Ni Sure, the spokesperson for the
Speaker 1: pish Old President P's administration, said, as the Iranian Red
Speaker 1: Crescent Society has announced, we are ready to dispatch rap
Speaker 1: response teams to assist in combating the fires in California.
Speaker 1: The Red Crescent Society is part of the world's largest
Speaker 1: humanitarian network, made up of one hundred and ninety one
Speaker 1: national Red Cross and Red Crescent societies. It is particularly
Speaker 1: known for its expertise in responding to earthquakes. Didn't know
Speaker 1: that the offer to provide aid comes as tensions between
Speaker 1: US and I Ran increase ahead of Trump's upcoming return
Speaker 1: to office. Okay, so basically he offered, I don't see
Speaker 1: anything as far as what actually happened or if anything
Speaker 1: became of that. Maybe that was all just a political ploy,
Speaker 1: maybe there was no actual credence to anything coming of it.
Speaker 1: But still really wild Iran of all people feeling just
Speaker 1: ohso magnanimous to help us take out or you put
Speaker 1: out the fire that was burning the trash anyway, like,
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that everybody in La is trash.
Speaker 1: I'm saying the majority of the city. You know, I
Speaker 1: was going to start shitting on the homeless population there,
Speaker 1: which somehow didn't get burned. Somehow they moved out of
Speaker 1: the way in time, which is still wild to me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, is the death toll under thirty people? Still?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know who knows. Maybe somebody in the
Speaker 2: chat knows. You know.
Speaker 1: That's as far as this crazy fire that is consumed
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of acres. That is not a lot
Speaker 1: of dead. The biggest shooting had more dead in under
Speaker 1: ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm seeing twenty eight is the number. But there
Speaker 2: was another story. There was a building that burned down
Speaker 2: in Turkey earlier today that killed like sixty people or something.
Speaker 2: By stuff like that. I remember earthquakes. Every time an
Speaker 2: earthquake happens in Turkey, there's like fifty thousand dead or something,
Speaker 2: and it happens like every ten fifteen years, and it's like, geez,
Speaker 2: I'm glad I don't live there with those buildings.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we just had the Yeah, Turkey actually, I believe
Speaker 1: last year had one of their biggest magnitude earthquakes. Ever,
Speaker 1: there's a whole conspiracy thing to say that the earthquake
Speaker 1: was created from the machines in Antarctica and that's what
Speaker 1: sent the earthquake that way. All the things, all the stuff,
Speaker 1: never mind the fact that Turkey's on a massive fault
Speaker 1: line and so that's why they had the earthquakes as
Speaker 1: frequently as they do. But this massive catastrophic devastation of
Speaker 1: these fires and under thirty people died. And I'm not
Speaker 1: like upset by that. It's not like I wanted more
Speaker 1: people to die or anything.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's pretty good. It is. It is.
Speaker 1: But also that makes it more fishy to me. I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe I'm just a little too conspiracy drenched here,
Speaker 1: but the Vegas shooting being upwards of like eighty people,
Speaker 1: ninety people something like or high seventies, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: all taken out that quickly, These fires that came up
Speaker 1: out of nowhere in twelve hours, just engulfed this massive
Speaker 1: section of the city. I expected way worse. As far
Speaker 1: as that's concerned, it's literally just a money thing. It's
Speaker 1: just about the damages done to the city, not loss
Speaker 1: of life, which again that is a positive thing, but
Speaker 1: it raises the hackles as far as my conspiratorial mind goes.
Speaker 1: You know, never mind the fact that fire hydrants had
Speaker 1: no water. Any of that we talked about them in
Speaker 1: the cult already, no need to rehash it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: monumental times that we are currently living in. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to make of. We're getting back off of
Speaker 1: California and back onto other areas of the world. I
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of Putin trying to make
Speaker 1: these conditions to the peace talks. I'm not against him
Speaker 1: arresting and extraditing Fauci. We'll see. Zalinski is in a
Speaker 1: position right now where he will I don't even see
Speaker 1: it as an option that he will absolutely capitulate or
Speaker 1: he will be doing the captain goes down with the
Speaker 1: ship type of move next, which I don't think that's
Speaker 1: going to play well for anybody in Ukraine. Iran, their
Speaker 1: prime minister was just killed in that helicopter crash. So
Speaker 1: this how do you say the name again, Pezi?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pezeshkian replaced.
Speaker 1: Hassan Rohani and he's an hazard by Johnny dude.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Well, there's a lot of Asari's living in Iran.
Speaker 2: It's one of the biggest minority groups. The Persians are
Speaker 2: only like forty five percent of the population and all
Speaker 2: the rest is other minorities like Azari's, balutchiese Current and
Speaker 2: other groups. I forget. I think a Medina Jod might
Speaker 2: have been a Zeri too.
Speaker 1: I think he might be right.
Speaker 2: Let me look it up just the way we can
Speaker 2: correct the record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, because you know that would I mean
Speaker 1: as much as Iran has been such.
Speaker 2: A Kurdish zir he's Kurdish is area.
Speaker 1: That's wild that they would allow a Kurd to take
Speaker 1: a seat of power in that nation. They are not
Speaker 1: fans of the Kurds. That's wild.
Speaker 2: Well, let me see if Amadeinajad was. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's also a pretty that's a good move
Speaker 1: for the Kurds to get to that level of power
Speaker 1: and that level of influence in a nation where they
Speaker 1: are not seen as a good thing. I mean, what
Speaker 1: is your take on Kurdistan becoming a nation?
Speaker 2: Well, in general, I'm in favor of people becoming nations
Speaker 2: according to whatever they're in group is So if it's
Speaker 2: Taiwan or she and Jiang or stuff like that, or Kurdistan, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess I'm in favor of it. Another thing to
Speaker 2: consider here, and this is what people's opinions all revolve
Speaker 2: around is what is the mean for Israel because the
Speaker 2: Kurds tend to be a relatively pro Israel population, and
Speaker 2: that's I think why, you know, most people who favor
Speaker 2: Israel want Kurtis stand to be a country. Azerbaijan also,
Speaker 2: I think has relatively good relations with Israel. Everyone else
Speaker 2: in the region tends not to. Yeah, and the Hashemite
Speaker 2: King of Jordan, but Jordan's got like a million members
Speaker 2: of the Muslim brotherhood who do not like Israel, so
Speaker 2: you know, everything kind of divides along that fault line there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan's kind of on their own, on their own
Speaker 1: trajectory as far as that's concerned. They're they're kept at
Speaker 1: bay because they like America being homies with them, but
Speaker 1: they also are not fans of Israel. Bindy stretch of
Speaker 1: the imagination as a nation, you know, could Yeah, depends
Speaker 1: on who's in the seat of power, honestly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The king seems to be pretty cool with Israel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's I think that's the other reason too,
Speaker 1: is because he is the king and he's not going
Speaker 1: to get elected out out of power. He's fine with
Speaker 1: whatever as long as his neighbors are happy. He's happy,
Speaker 1: even though his people are his people.
Speaker 2: With the Saudi dynasty too, they're regarded as relatively pro
Speaker 2: Israel for the region.
Speaker 1: And again that's the royal family of the Saudis, which
Speaker 1: I mean, say what you want about them, I understand
Speaker 1: they are guilty of various human rights atrocities. Not going
Speaker 1: to underplay that. They are more beholden to the almighty
Speaker 1: dollar than they are to any religious dogma. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just that's just how they've operated for the last
Speaker 1: few decades, if not the last century. So if Israel
Speaker 1: will buy their shit, they're down with Israel. You know,
Speaker 1: it's whatever, Yeah, they you know, they'll handle their own
Speaker 1: in house issues in house, and they really don't want
Speaker 1: cameras to be there when they throw homosexuals off of
Speaker 1: roofs and things. Fine. Fine, but they're not exactly like
Speaker 1: getting ready to gear up to war with Israel at
Speaker 1: this time, which is good because that would be a
Speaker 1: part of the end time prophecies if I remember correctly. Yeah, yeah, probably,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. I know that like Oman and
Speaker 1: Yemen are that area is specifically named as being like
Speaker 1: they won't be involved but I do believe that the
Speaker 1: it says Arabia, which would be salty, would absolutely be involved.
Speaker 1: Jordan will be involved in all those other things like
Speaker 1: the Ezekiel eighty eight or thirty eight and thirty nine war,
Speaker 1: that Gog and Magog thing, and everybody thought that this
Speaker 1: was going to be the beginning of the war. Like
Speaker 1: when Israel went on the attack and started attacking all
Speaker 1: these nations, everybody get better, get ready, They're about to
Speaker 1: turn around and all attack or Israel at once. Even
Speaker 1: I thought that that was a possibility. Then Israel did
Speaker 1: what Israel does and decimated any potential for an air
Speaker 1: attack or anything else other than like a full on
Speaker 1: land invasion, which none of these countries are currently suited
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, they they absolutely cleaned that up a
Speaker 1: good bit. Now, the ceasefire talks that happened, is it
Speaker 1: a piece at this time or is there still an
Speaker 1: uneasy ceasefire going on. I remember, even after the ceasefire
Speaker 1: was agreed upon, there was still like twenty four to
Speaker 1: forty eight hours where people were still dying, and everybody
Speaker 1: was not happy about that for obvious reasons. But like
Speaker 1: you know, that comes with time. That's not a blowing
Speaker 1: of the whistle in the game's over kind of thing,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people were in Gaza were definitely celebrating, and most
Speaker 2: people thought it was a very welcome, good event to happen.
Speaker 2: And I did see some stories of a handful of
Speaker 2: people continuing to die after that. But yeah, I haven't
Speaker 2: kept up in microscopic detail for some reason. When you
Speaker 2: google ceasefire agreement, the most recent thing is the top
Speaker 2: result is four days ago. But yeah, there are more
Speaker 2: recent news results. Oh, even those are mostly like three
Speaker 2: days ago or one day ago.
Speaker 1: So I guess the seasfire is holding and everything.
Speaker 2: I think so, I think if anything huge had happened,
Speaker 2: we'd know about it. The worst case scenario, maybe it's
Speaker 2: still done the same as it was. We can go.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear that because my group is
Speaker 1: doing the a pilgrim, or they were planning to do
Speaker 1: a pilgrimage to the Holy Land in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: and I think I'm on have told you about that
Speaker 1: the Templar outposts that they just recently found that my
Speaker 1: group has exclusive rights to archaeologically dig huh, dude, I
Speaker 1: was super worried that this conflict was going to prevent
Speaker 1: that from happening. If this cease fire holds and everybody
Speaker 1: can get back to some as sembilance of normalcy, oh
Speaker 1: my god. I hope that I can at least go
Speaker 1: out there for like a week and just be a
Speaker 1: part of that. That would be huge. But I guess
Speaker 1: we'll see. You know, that area of the world so
Speaker 1: wild that something else might pop off here soon. You
Speaker 1: never really know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe the northern part of Israel's more peaceful. I
Speaker 2: haven't heard of anything with Lebanon recently, and I did
Speaker 2: see a new story this morning about how some big
Speaker 2: medieval coin find was just found near Galilee from about
Speaker 2: like fourteen hundred, So it was a new story.
Speaker 1: That's wild. Yeah, I'm a coin collector, and that's awesome.
Speaker 2: H it was from the fourteen hundreds. One reason I've
Speaker 2: been a little bit into coin finds is that sometimes
Speaker 2: they find coins from very different time periods in the
Speaker 2: same find, and they wonder, it's like, how could a
Speaker 2: you know, first century coin be found next to a
Speaker 2: tenth century coin, for example. And this lends credence to
Speaker 2: the thing that I first went on your show about,
Speaker 2: which is this first millendium of revisionism. It's the idea
Speaker 2: that well, maybe the first century coin in the tenth
Speaker 2: century coin, we're actually made at the same time, and
Speaker 2: we just accidentally miss categorize them chronologically, because.
Speaker 1: That's how that works.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Miscategorizing and mislabeling things can happen, no doubt, however, and
Speaker 1: I know that, like coining technology didn't advance that much
Speaker 1: in between the first century and you know, one thousand AD.
Speaker 1: I get it was pretty much piece of metal, stamp
Speaker 1: it out with the i'll keep fine fair enough. I
Speaker 1: feel like you'd be very difficult to misidentify a first
Speaker 1: century coin with a tenth century coin. Out loud, that's
Speaker 1: pretty preposterous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Charlotmagne was buried with some first century coins
Speaker 2: with I guess where he was buried. And the idea is,
Speaker 2: how could these first century coins have made it all
Speaker 2: the way through that much time and not gotten melted
Speaker 2: down and struck again. And it was common practice for
Speaker 2: people at the time to take a coin and just
Speaker 2: strike it and mint it again with a new emperor's
Speaker 2: face on it. Yeah, and you know the evidence of
Speaker 2: that is in the coin. So what are the chances
Speaker 2: that the coin could have really survived.
Speaker 1: That long, there's chances of it. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: buy at most coin shops around here. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, what's it called the widow's mite write those
Speaker 1: last two coins that she gave. It's part of the
Speaker 1: story in the Bible, the might in question or the
Speaker 1: alms in question. The coin shots by the house sell
Speaker 1: little ziplock baggies of them period correct and all of that. Now, granted,
Speaker 1: these are not great quality. You could barely make out
Speaker 1: what is even on the coin unless you're an expert
Speaker 1: and know what that inscription is supposed to mean and
Speaker 1: can all this. But you can buy them because they
Speaker 1: were used all around the Mediterranean. I mean, the Roman
Speaker 1: Empire stretched to a very vast, wide array. And the
Speaker 1: Roman Empire didn't exactly go away. It kind of became
Speaker 1: a few centuries later the Roman Catholic Church, and I
Speaker 1: mean you still had the outposts in Britannia and the
Speaker 1: Gaulish regions, and I mean there's I could understand how
Speaker 1: some of these coins made it through. But it's not
Speaker 1: like there's just troves and troves and just big old
Speaker 1: chests they find once a week full of Roman coinage
Speaker 1: and stuff it's definitely becoming more rare these days, for sure,
Speaker 1: but especially with archaeology doing what it is these days
Speaker 1: and making the advancements that it is in these ancient lands,
Speaker 1: it's not crazy to see. It's it's definitely worth noting
Speaker 1: though for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I had more on that front right now,
Speaker 2: but yeah I can research more for next week maybe.
Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt. All right, so we are getting
Speaker 1: to the time where we will be wrapping up this episode. Raven,
Speaker 1: you've gone quiet for a little bit here. We've been
Speaker 1: talking history and things and stuff. Do you have anything
Speaker 1: else you would like to bring up before we go
Speaker 1: ahead and wrap Okay, I suppose not. Well, it looks
Speaker 1: like Kyle had to leave a little bit earlier. But
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