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Raisin Kines Studio, and we're gonna go now to our
guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football, Nicholas, how.
Speaker 4: We doing this week?
Speaker 5: Sir?
Speaker 2: Doing good?
Speaker 5: Y'all doing?
Speaker 4: I mean, probably doing great.
Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler four turnovers, probably got your Tyler.
Speaker 4: There, I mean we know, we know. Nick, go ahead
and tell the people what are we talking about.
Speaker 3: We're giving you heart time because a lot of our
chat and a lot of our conversation right before you
hopped on.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: I'm still going to defend Spencer Rattler. I don't I
don't know that playing Tyler shuck right now, and I
know a lot of people are asking for it.
Speaker 4: You got to see what you have.
Speaker 3: But I think if you do that, I do think
you mess with the development of Spencer Ratler, and I
still think there's a lot of things that he does
really well. I think he's a starter in multiple places
in the NFL. But look, your boots on the ground,
your ear to the ground there every single day, Like
what's your assessment of where Spencer is at and what
do you think about you know a lot of people
wanting to see Tyler shuck at some point in this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I exists in the middle,
and I think it's just kind of a weird not
I think it's weird that everything has to be like
politics and you're on one side or the other and
there's like, no, there's no middle ground, Like, yeah, Spencer
Alller played a bad game, and like defending that I
think is weird. There's three interceptions, there's a bumble, there's
two other patches that should be picked off. You go
through the interceptions, I think the last one is really bad.
The one on the scramble drill is what it is, Like,
I'm not not at that that's a chance. I want
to see him take the first one. I think you
kind of have to look at it and say, man,
like I've seen them fro the stats behind guys like
three or four different times, and it's led the plays
that don't work. But then also like, hey, look, we
watched this defensive coordinator for a decade do this to
guys like Tom Brady and make him spike tablets on
the sideline. And we watched Baker Mayfield go up and
planes last night, and like, these games happened to people,
and like the overreaction throw them out, like it's done,
it's over with, Like this, this guy can never be
an NFL quarterback after one game is really really stupid
to me. And I think like the coronation of you
have a pra tis quarterback after one game against the
New England Patriots, when like literally their de touchive coordinator
goes on a leave of absence because he has cancer
is equally as stupid. And I think it's just like,
let's see what the process is and does he keep
getting better? Does he come back from this game and
respond from it? I think check marks of adversity to
see how somebody comes back from it is uh important.
That's part of the job. Like could you play a
bad game and get your ass kicked and stand up
and keep going. I think we saw some of that
in this game though, like he's a like four yards
of offense coming down the stretch and you know, the
first half, DA's like doing these simulated pressures in disguises
where like literally if you go, like he has nine
guys on the line of freaking scrimmage, like you have
no idea anything they're doing, and like it has him
been a blender. And then like three minutes left in
the first half, like they figure it out, they pop
the pass to a lobby from the seam the big
game go down and score, and like that was important
to see too, So like I think, don't get the
rush to judgment on anything. You know, you have two
young guys in the building. I think the most unfortunate
thing in the world for Spencer Rallery is that this
other guy exists, because everything gets huge for that. And
you know, I think he's played well enough that you
keep looking at him. But the reality is is like
they drafted the other guy, Like you don't get to
have like multiple bad games. And I think that really
sucks for him because like, you played a bad game
against Chicago and everyone's like, oh, it's the Bears whatever,
like field, that's Bennis freaking out, Like we know we
can call a great game. But like, now he has
the Bucks, then he has the Rams. I think it
sucks for him, man, Like if he if he hits
a little bad stretch here, and it's a stretch that
like I don't think any of us are expecting him
to look great against the Bucks of the Rams, you know,
I think it's it's the end of the road. Like
if he doesn't play great there and and again, like
I think it's incredibly unfair to him. But it's just
the reality of the situation and unfortunately for Spencer, like
this is just kind of his football story and like
here it goes again. But look, it's like if he
becomes on deniable, he becomes on deniable, and it's not
just about Shuck, Like it's about the next draft too,
Like you've got to be on deniable against the class
because you can't sit there. You know, you got year one,
like this is your year of patience right here as
a coach. Next year, like there's supposed to be some expectations.
By year three, you got to be winning games or
you're back to being an a coordinator. So like, you know,
he has to become on deniable, not just against like Tyler, Shuck,
he's got to be on deniable against Dante More, Leonora Sellers,
Fernando Mendoza, ty Simpson. Like there's a lot of people
you're being judged against right now. But like I don't
think he's playing poorly, and I think the overreaction to
to a bad game against Tennis Allen, you know, I
don't know, Like I just I'm surprised by everything these days,
like nobody intensively and like I'm sorry to be on
a rant, but like you just you just touched my
soul and it's like, you know, you just sit there
and you read it. It's like what is going on here?
Like like like we all have ended up watching football,
like you're forty years old, like on the internet, bitch
about like one game, Like you haven't seen Drew Brees
play a bad game in his life. Like I just thought,
you know, I don't get it.
Speaker 7: No, it's kind of fun because we were talking yesterday, like
you know, he is arguable, that's arguably right, arguably playing
better than three of the six quarterbacks taken in the
first round in his own draft class, which was said
to be like a top you know, the top draft
class since twenty twenty, and but you're right, it is
kind of unfair because he does have Chuck, and Chuck
could be the next great thing.
Speaker 8: Nobody really knows.
Speaker 7: So I think what you said at the beginning of
that answer was great, Like, whatever the process is for
Kellen Moore in this whole season, I execute that process,
and I think the fan base they kind of want
like an emotional decision, and I get it, like, and
you kind of said, it's kind of like a little
bit political. You're either on one side or the other.
There's no one like trying to look at it rationally.
And that was like the worst game for both sides
because one side was like, oh my god, he's playing terrible,
and the other side was like, wait a minute, now,
let's just say a two minute drive right there. Then
he goes out and he does something really good, throws
accurate passes down the middle, the accurate passes deep. So
it was that game where just created a lot of
argument from from either side of the middle. But one
thing that you can't argue is, besides, you know, a
couple of plays from two weeks ago from Chris Alave,
He's had a pretty good little stretch here the last
two weeks and he came on and made some big plays,
had a great game this past week. And so how
do you see his kind of his his rise back
to playing really well, playing like a guy that could
be considered a number one guy in the NFL and
all day I guess the potential contract extension talks.
Speaker 2: Well. I mean, he's like a perfect example of how
everything went crazy too, Like you see have like years
of good day he has a bad game and like
everyone's like cut him, get him out of here, and
what are we doing? Man? Like I thought he played
really great in this game though, and he showed what
he wants to be, Like he's bagging him for those
types of opportunities and you know, not to get off
like a lot of it. But like going back to Ratlery,
like the throwper was twenty one, I thought that was
a great play that that you wanted to see him make.
Those are the plays we've been asking him to make,
and like, hey, look why aren't they taking the shots here?
And he hits it then scores again in the red zone.
You know, I think a lot of people will be
surprised to know. And I know there's two passes in
the red zone that like really stand out, the one
behind the lobby which he missed against Stanforanda. You know,
I feel like the interception was in the same vein.
And then the one the Cooks that was a little
bit low against I believe it was Buffalo, right, But
you know there's those two plays. But since week one,
week one, they went zero for seven in the red zone.
Juana has ball at him in the hands or whatever.
Since week one, he's a sixty percent passer in the
red zone with six touchdowns. Like that's not that's not
a terrible place to be. That's not unredeemable. You know,
it's obviously stuffed that out to get better. But look,
if Chris is going to make place down there, that helps,
Like it's a huge thing they need. You know, I
felt like they did a really good job of getting
him inside in the slot. He made some plays out
of there, going up and attacking the ball both touchdowns.
You know, he had to go up and grab it.
Really really good place for him.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: It's just it's a situation where I think you would
probably prefer to have like another guy out there, and
you aren't relying on him in every you know, high
leverage type situation, but like, you know, he's a guy
I want to It's tough because like you got to
isolate the you can't isolate it, but like if you
isolate the injury situation, like his talent is something I
undeniably want to invest in. I don't know if I
want to go justin Jefferson money, but like Stefan Diggs
bucks a little bit more shirt, like I'm okay being it,
like you know, twenty twenty five or something like that.
The injury thing makes it scary though, Like it there's
there's an undeniable factor here that like the next hit
could be, could be something that that sets him back,
and it's just it's it's tough to know how to
marry those two things. So yeah, I mean, talent wise,
I want to pay him. Help wise, I think it
becomes you know, it's just it's just truly a complicated situation.
Speaker 7: Too, and talking about the red zone success that we've
been having been nice to get three points a little
bit more consistent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but hey, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: It was, but hey, going, I don't get that.
Speaker 3: I don't he's he's he's got some incriminating evidence of somebody.
Speaker 8: But yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4: Like, what what is this stat of Landra?
Speaker 5: Sorry I was doing it in your ears so nobody else
heard it. But Blake Groupie is thirty third in field
goal percentage in the NFL?
Speaker 4: Yeah thirty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like what I mean in a day and age, Nick,
where you can just find a kicker that will bomb
a fifty five yard are now right down the middle.
Speaker 4: That's sure, that's what. That's what I'm saying, Like you
can find that, Like what is that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I mean he's also a captain, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, if it's only one, like if if the
Chicago was only one, Okay, you missed from fifty three,
it's raining out whatever, But like that's the fifth miss
and something or fifth game that he's missed kicks in.
There's only seven games, multiple misses, and some of them.
I don't understand it. I don't know how you can
credibly like sit there and say, like you're trying to
win games if you've got a kicker who can't hit kicks,
like at a certain point, like, man, can you can
you really let down on the other the other whatever?
Eighty nine guys on the roster like is a kicker
and you want to stand by him, like after all
these misses.
Speaker 7: We're looking at this picture, Nick, I don't know if
you can see it looks like a Halloween cause.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it looks like a Disney movie where
you traded bodies with someone and you got a chance
to play in the National Football League.
Speaker 8: Like that's from the last game that is up to date.
Speaker 3: I know, I know he got a conversation though, like
trying out different kickers on a Monday.
Speaker 2: I mean I've asked a bunch of times and they
just keep saying like, hey, look, we're gonna arrive with
him and if he if he comes through this, we're
gonna have a better kicker than we'd have if we
went out and got some But like here's my thing,
Like if he was a guy for the last couple
of years, like hitting sixty two yarders six yarders, which
it seems like everybody's doing now and he and he's
shortening the field for you, great, but like he's never
had that like super long distance range, so like even
relative to other kickers, like he's kind of lessening the
field like he's an average He's been an average kicker,
you know and like nice guys, like I think everybody
on the team likes him, but you gotta got to
hit your man, all right.
Speaker 7: It's you're trying to set up your buddy with your
girlfriend's friends. He's like, she's got a great personality.
Speaker 2: Guy great, great guy thought guy though, man great?
Speaker 8: Oh right, our kicker is really nice.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Hey do you remember that?
Speaker 7: You remember that one time that the Saints trade a
fourth round pick for receiver from Dinverhe Where.
Speaker 8: Did he go? He played?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 8: Is he nice too?
Speaker 2: No? No, I hardly talk to him because like there
hasn't been a reason too. There's like a full You
tell you the fourth rounder for a guy who's twenty
eight years old, you're halfway through the season. He's done
nothing like you could have told me on it, like, hey, look,
we're gonna go get this guy like this is this
is a guy that was available. It was better than
trading for an old guy. We're going to bring him in.
Spencer Ratlery needs a six foot three guy to help
him on third down. He needs a six foot three
guy al him in the red zone. That's going to
help his development. We're going to invest in this This
is really about Spencer Rattler. Get this guy in the
building whatever, he's kind of old, probably won't get in
the second contact, but he can help the quarterback. He's
not helping the quarterback on third down. They're throwing as
plant to she he trying to get inside leverage like that.
Weren't the big guy like that? That's where you should
be throwing him the ball. It's it's very weird to me,
a very weird move. There's there's ten games left, Like, man,
he's really got to turn it on her, Like it's
a fourth rounder for a guy who's twenty eight years
old and you're coming up to a draft where there's
like a lot of receivers. It's kind of a colossal
error if like this thing doesn't doesn't hit, like and
there's not a few of them. Like with Brandon coach,
you know what, Like what's he doing on this team?
Like what where?
Speaker 5: Did where?
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Like did Juwan Johnson contract doesn't
make sense? Like they they made some some very very
questionable decisions with like how this team is built and
where they invested, and it just doesn't it doesn't make
a ton of sense right now.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, it doesn't. And you look at the weapons.
Speaker 3: I mean, like Brandon Cooks has certainly had his day
in the sun in the NFL. I mean he is,
he's been a guy that's multiple teams, thousand yards, it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: He finds his way.
Speaker 3: But like, that's even a guy he plays almost forty
plays in this game, and it's like, Okay, what what
did he really do to help you in this contest?
And again like that's a that's a guy that's been
a great pro and he's probably a great presence in
the locker room. But again it's another weapon that when
you watch the tape, it's not where it once was.
Speaker 4: And and look, it makes a lot of sense. He's
played a long time.
Speaker 3: But it's almost like you can only get one of
the receivers at a time, Like it's either Rashieta he
does a big day, or it's Chris Olave. You don't
dare get both at the same time. And god knows,
you're not getting anything from your third or your fourth receivers.
And even everybody's favorite camp guy, Mason Tipton, he plays
a handful of plays. He's not gonna do anything for
you either, And so like that's another problem. You can't
have two guys at the same time. It feels like
step up and make plays.
Speaker 2: J T O'Sullivan he's played for for the same he's
a back up at the point a.
Speaker 4: Team, a teammate of mine. Yeah, I know JT.
Speaker 2: Like he's optionably he does. Like I love watching his videos.
He did one on Rattler And but this is the
rebuilding team, right, so it should be young guys like
these people that are going in the system he's going through.
Is that Brandon Cussin he's still in the league, but
he shouldn't be or is he still in the league
team when you're when you're rebuilding, that's something you should
be doing, like you know, oh man, like like the
Seahawks got that like old saving that that makes sense,
Like you shouldn't be the Wow he's still sticking around,
huh like that that shouldn't be where you're at if you're.
Speaker 3: The same I can see JT doing that, Like, well
that's rings Hey, that's actually it's a really good point. Uh,
last one before we let you go. And I know
it's been all offensive talking to the defense as issues.
We'll catch up on that next week because the offense
has more issues than Vogue. What do you do now
that Kendre Miller is going to be out for the year,
What does that rotation look like? Is it going to
be Devin Neil in your opinion? Do they bring someone
else in to try to help out ak?
Speaker 2: I think it'll probably be a lot of Devin Neale.
I think it'll be a lot of vail As Jones.
At least Devin Neil can like pass protect a little bit,
like you've seen some of that. The other guys aren't
really doing it. Speaking of the run being hunt or
the defense been. They allowed one hundred and thirty three
yards before contact in that game, Like there's probably that's
probably more than a lot of teams. It's three times
on the same stash for just like man, the tense
just well, I.
Speaker 7: Say, say that start a one hundred and thirty three
yards four conto contact before contact.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, come on, man.
Speaker 7: That's because identize I knew that it was six point
five yards per carry to running backs. Now I know
it was a little bit lower when you add in
like six point five yards per carry to the running backs.
Speaker 2: Like absolutely crazy, like and you know you have the
coverage breaks the week before the run defense a Morgan
like there there's something kind of broken here and again
like if you got to you got young quarterbacks, whatever
one's in there kind of hard to succeed, Like you
got to keep them in these games because like, look,
I mean they're developing. You can't you can't ask Rattler
and Shuck to be throwing you back in games. Like
it's just not it's not going to work like that.
You got to see it sometimes, but like I just don't,
you know, they just aren't. They aren't those guys, and
a lot of guys aren't early on in their career.
Like you kind of got to grow into that. So
you got to you got at least be like sound
there and I have these like big breaks and giving
up fifteen yard runs and twelve yard runs and you know,
a guy dragging seven people down to the one yard behind.
Like it's just as it's a tough way to play.
I think there's a lot bad in that in that
last game. But you know that was that was the
thing that people should like really be screaming about, not
the quarterback competition that may or may not lead to
an answer.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's actually a great point, all right, I swear
last one on the way out. A lot of trade
rumors around the Saints because of where they're at and
rebuilding and veteran players.
Speaker 4: We've we've heard it all.
Speaker 3: Do you think the Saints make any significant move to
let go of some of these veteran players we've seen
play for the Saints for a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I think some of their names are out
there and they're kind of being being shopped around and
seeing what the you know, the market is and whether
they want to leave or not. You know, I still
kind of circle like Pete Werner maybe is the most
likely guy to go though, and I know that's probably
not who you're.
Speaker 3: Referring to, but no, no, I mean I think sure
his rotation has changed. It looks like in almost like
getting ready to make the move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, exactly. That Like I think
it's I think it's telling and I think it's telling
you where where they want to go. They want to
get stutsman on the field, makes sense, got to try
to go a little bit younger. I think Werner probably
has a little bit of trade value, and you give
it to that contract. It isn't the worst thing in
the world. And you know the fact that uh, you
know you've got to take on well you would take
on some dead money, but I think that getting back
a better pick because you'd be cheap to the acquiring team.
So that's kind of the guy that you want to
You want to look the move because you might actually
get like a good asset. Like if you're trading like
the Mario or Kim, you're probably getting the late round
picks just from like where they're at in their careers.
You know. I think Ak made himself untradeable last week.
So yeah, I mean I just like to see a
couple of things here look and again like just a
lot of a thing. I think you keep an eye
on it because like if they just if they can't
get to somewhere with with that negotiation, you know, all
of a sudden you're staring down and it's like, hey,
like what do we do here? So you know, that's
not one that I think is completely put the badget
either it all right there?
Speaker 3: He is our guy, Nick Underhill, New Orleans Football.
Speaker 4: Nice guy. It's just a great guy.
Speaker 3: Is the website, I mean has the Saints cover from
every single angle. Nick, We appreciate the time as always, brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, take it easy, guys.
Speaker 4: Nice guy, great personality, great guy, great personality. He's a
lot of fun at parties.
Speaker 8: He called our kicker.
Speaker 3: But really though, like that's a Disney movie where he
traded bodies with an NFL player. Like the teammates seem
as like a fully grown NFL player, but like us,
the viewer, we see him as like the middle school version.
Speaker 8: W' you break the fifth wall?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like rook of the Year, but like we
you know, but they see him as like a grown
NFL kicker, keeps missing kicks the objects to put the
pigskin through the uprights. All right, we'll take a break.
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at the very end, He's like, you have so many
issues on this team and so many things like the
yards before contact. That is why behavior. He's like, why
we worried about something that's actually not going bad, it's
actually going in the right direction.
Speaker 4: And I get it.
Speaker 3: It's the most important position in football. I get that,
but he's right, like you got so many issues, like
that's not the reason right now. One hundred and thirty
three yards before contact. You know, you know what a
dream that is as a running back, I'm full speed
and you haven't touched me yet.
Speaker 7: This that's that blows blows my mind. One hundred and
thirty three yards before anybody touched a running back. I'm
about to tell you exactly how many runs a running
back had. Nineteen from swift. Okay, so there are thirty two,
so thirty three total runs from a running back in.
Speaker 3: That game because you had it was a combination of
Kalman Nungai and.
Speaker 7: So that is one hundred and thirty three yards on
thirty three rush attempts is four yards on average. Four
yards before the running back was touched in contact means.
Speaker 3: A Nick ja Yeah's arm grazed yep against the Patriots,
contact counts as contact yards before and the goals to
get to four yards to carry.
Speaker 7: So based on what Nick just said, so you got
to your goal before you were touched, and we had
in fact checking. But I trust this fact a lot
more than ours. Sometimes one hundred and thirty three yards
and I'm looking at the carry, so it is thirty
three total carries from a running back. Now, DJ Moore
had a run for nine yards, so it could have
been like a little I can't remember the play, so
that probably excuse it. Back, let's just say nearly four yards.
That is mind boggling in the National Football League.
Speaker 4: You reached your goal before you got touched. That's wild.
Speaker 8: Four yards per carry is a good day in a
running game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Saints average.
Speaker 3: In contrast, if you want to know the Saints what,
they averaged two point six yards per carry per carry,
not before God per carry carry two point six and
the Bears averaged four yards before they were whispered.
Speaker 7: To and their running backs averaged six point five yards
per carry?
Speaker 4: Is that good?
Speaker 7: I don't know how do they break it? They broke
my mind with that, So again, you've got a lots
of issues. Oh but Spencer threw behind that one guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I feel like we kind of talked about that in
the off season though, like because everybody was saying, draft
a quarterback, Draft a quarterback, draft a quarterback, but we're like, no,
you need something at literally every single position on the
Saints like quarterback is not.
Speaker 9: What you should be worried about.
Speaker 3: Trying to think of a position group that you felt
good about because you either had had a player that
wasn't up to the standard that you want, or it
was an aging player, like a player that is a dog.
But maybe he's thirty four, thirty five years old, Davis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a dog. He is a dog. But they're
all thirty something.
Speaker 5: Years they're all starting to kind of show that they're
thirty something years old.
Speaker 11: It's good on the line draft, the combo, the combination
of him and Werner, which you got great value later
in the draft of Danny Stutzman.
Speaker 7: So like you you actually did okay there, Yeah, but
it's not always I mean yards before contacts the defensive lines. Job,
they're defensive tackles. I don't know if y'all have noticed
for the Saints this year it's been an issue. Here
is so you had you had four guys that rotated
in a defensive tackle.
Speaker 3: Okay, they're great. The highest grade of those four was
fifty nine. Christian Boy fifty nine, Brian Brazi fifty six.
Got y'all had fifty point eight and let's see, Bullard
had fifty five point three, and it's showed like it's
so fast to see on the tape as well, like
what a saving running through you like what, oh, you
can't say that. That's right, we'll get something to do
with ten horn. That's what they did. I mean, it
was not even remotely close. Some of the combination blocks
that the Bears had. You were on Healey's. It's like
you had on Heey's and instead of cleats, And if
you are too young or too old to know what
that is, it's the shoe that had a roller skate.
Speaker 7: Don't disrespect Heys like that mean saying. They looked like
like that's what.
Speaker 3: No, it's what they had because they were on roller skates.
Those weren't cleats, like they were back four yards and
then so like okay, and so then you're like, where's
the linebacker. The linebacker's got somebody in his lap, Like
it doesn't matter. It can be Danny Stutsman, it can
be to Mario Davis, it can be Pete Warner, it
does not matter. You go back and you turn on
the tape and the linebackers had guys in their lap
and they're trying to read it and they can't. I
thought Danny Stutsman actually was really good against the run
considering what the situation was now in coverage is incredibly limited.
He's got a neck roll on God, I love it,
but he's limited in coverage. He can stop the run.
But even Danny Stutsman, who I thought had a good
game against the run, when he struggled, it wasn't on
him because he had Brian Berzi like on his toes.
Speaker 7: I also thought it was interesting what Nick said. They
said that Kamara played himself out of being tradable.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, he's kind of right on that.
Speaker 4: He's right and.
Speaker 8: He doesn't want to go. I just said that. I
thought that comment.
Speaker 7: It was just kind of like, it's not an indictment
on how he's playing because he's still Kamara, and it's
just a wild statement because of the combination of age
and his past protection not being.
Speaker 4: He just past protection has never been, which.
Speaker 8: Is why they always have n't routes.
Speaker 11: You've always had a bigger guy, right, a Latavious Murray
and mark Ingram, somebody that could be in there and block.
Speaker 8: You don't have that guy.
Speaker 5: But I don't think we mentioned that. Kendre Miller's out
with a torn a c L. So that's a hit
to your running back room.
Speaker 4: But we didn't mention, well, we didn't mention the injury.
Speaker 8: It's a c L.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good point of Landra to bring that up.
Speaker 3: He's somebody that you were hoping, would you know, continue
to maybe step up and take over and be your
young guy and then a k could kind of be
your change of pace guy.
Speaker 4: And he's still so smooth.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's things that he can do, but I
don't I don't think it's going to be Devin Neil.
It was a great past protection rep from him, but
I don't know that he's going to be that guy.
I think you got to go get somebody. He's gonna
have to do that guy this week, Oh for sure. Yeah,
he's gonna have to help out this week without question.
Speaker 9: Mentioned it yesterday, but Justin Reid was struggling.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought Chase Young showed up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Chase A couple we're asking about your ball.
We didn't know if you get back in there and
you played your a little positive out there, that was
a positive. Cool played better as well.
Speaker 9: Didn't he have a soccer?
Speaker 4: Really? Sure?
Speaker 8: Who Chase.
Speaker 3: Well, they gave him have a sack, but it was
fully his sack, like somebody jumped on top of I think.
Speaker 4: Chase.
Speaker 11: At the beginning, Brazil is shown flashes. But guys, I
gotta see a little bit more from him. He's the
first round pick.
Speaker 4: Against the run, he's he's he's terrible.
Speaker 8: That's a good interior pass rusher.
Speaker 4: Bad against the run.
Speaker 8: You need more than that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for a first even though it was the back
half of the first round, it was still bad.
Speaker 4: No, you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't be that against the run, all right, are
you can't play on first and second down, which as
a first rounder you can't be a third down down.
Speaker 8: You could be a situational pass rusher.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Other than that, it's pretty good.
Speaker 8: Everything's great, Yeah, pretty.
Speaker 9: Good, other than every single position on this team.
Speaker 8: Tampa, easy, Taylor and.
Speaker 3: You're all right? That made me depressed. Let's go ahead
and take a break more o t B on the
other side.
Speaker 1: Off the bench.
Speaker 3: Gosh, well, at least hopefully maybe you enjoy some ice
cold do skis and you go for dose while you're
watching some football last weekend. Hopefully not again this weekend,
but it might be the same story, but you've always
got little do skis there. It makes it feel a
little bit better. So if you're getting ready for your
tailgate this weekend, if you're hosting at the house, make
sure that you've got the essential. The essential is an
ice chest full of ice cold dosectis.
Speaker 8: That's an ice chest, refrigerator full m right next to you.
Speaker 7: It's good to get them cold, nice cold, delicious, fresh
Mexican longer in that green bottom.
Speaker 8: Look.
Speaker 7: If you you're getting ready for the game, like, we
have to show up. I know we lost the game
this past week, but we got to show up for
the Tigers this weekend. And there's no better way to
do that for a night game than get get a little,
get a little action with some with some do sakis
one two three, whatever it is. Drink responsibly, go.
Speaker 8: For us.
Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off the
bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3: Gada is going to uh Nashville Huh game Day Nashville
Vanderbilt Missouri.
Speaker 9: That was on everyone's bingo's card.
Speaker 3: Why can't you give yourself like Missouri's good bud.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry they're bad. I've never once said they're bad.
Speaker 3: Like, how I don't we can't play a second of it.
But how awesome was it at the coin toss for overtime?
Their defensive end just crashed out and was just like
talking ish to everybody. The microphones picked it up and
it was not safe for work language, and he let
everybody know what was about to happen. And then what
does he do.
Speaker 4: It's a sack.
Speaker 7: He was speaking with the devil's tongue.
Speaker 4: He felt good about the matchup.
Speaker 8: He felt good about that.
Speaker 4: He felt good about it.
Speaker 8: They backed it up. What sucks is that La she
would have won on Saturday. Probabuld have been here.
Speaker 4: Oh, it definitely would have been here. With that question,
you imagine the juice in the stadium if they.
Speaker 3: Would have won.
Speaker 4: Eve been one of those ones up maybe three four matchup.
Speaker 3: Oh, because all those teams lost in front of them.
Speaker 4: It would have been least I think it would have been
maybe LSU six and A and M three.
Speaker 8: What was that was going into that game?
Speaker 4: Ten? It had been six versts on three something like that. M.
Speaker 7: We hadn't gone over the new top twenty five Indiana.
It's up there, haven't they?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: They're the only team outside of Ohio State has received
any first place votes now. Of the sixty, Ohio State's
got sixty of them, but Indiana is the only other team.
Speaker 4: They got six.
Speaker 3: And so it's Ohio State, Indiana, A and m Alabama, Georgia, Oregon, Georgia, Tech, Ole,
miss Miami, and Vanderbilt.
Speaker 7: Has anybody watched in the Ohio State this year outside
of Texas? I have not for whatever reason, I just
like cannot I'm Watson play against Washington and not to
their football game either, because much better than everybody they play.
Have they really played anybody? Look, I mean, I'm not
saying they're not. I'm not saying there.
Speaker 3: I think Illinois. I think Illinois is a pretty decent team.
I think Washington's a pretty decent team. But to your
point of like, have they played Oregon, Uh, Indiana, Texas
and so even the Penn State game? Obviously that looks
completely different, right they got obviously Michigan's away this year.
Speaker 4: Hey, they got play against UCLA. Oh it's at home,
it's on travel.
Speaker 3: But no, to your point, they've got Penn State, Purdue,
U c l A, Rutgers in Michigan.
Speaker 7: We're not going to really know who Ohio State is. Well,
we had a pretty good idea. We know they're good.
They just absolutely deserve to be number one.
Speaker 8: The Big Ten Championship will tell you tell you what
you need to know.
Speaker 3: Indiana, Yeah, more Oregon depending on how I guess it
all plays out. Yeah, but I mean any of the
teams that have been on their schedule, they've left no
doubt the.
Speaker 8: Hell out of Wisconsin agree with the top rankings.
Speaker 7: I I think that Alabama's better than A and them.
They just have the one loss, so that's why they're four,
not three?
Speaker 4: Right as three?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 4: Three? Yeah, bams four?
Speaker 9: You have at number seven?
Speaker 8: Are they? Let's go the Ainsaw massacre.
Speaker 9: That so much that might be the best nix the
ACC get two teams.
Speaker 3: The potentially if Miami and Georgia will say that they
meet up in the ACC Championship game and Miami win
a close game, if they only lost Georgia Tech. As
in Georgia Tech, let's say they you know, they beat Georgia,
then yeah, how do you can't deny them?
Speaker 4: They got to get in. Va is also undefeated.
Speaker 9: In the zero regard for his body like zero.
Speaker 3: Is none is none because Virginia's lost n C State
was actually a non conference game even though it's a
conference soon because of the schedule in balance.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it still didn't.
Speaker 3: So they still are undefeated in the conference playing have
a chance to make it to the championship game in Charlotte.
Speaker 9: How about Texas still being ranked?
Speaker 3: I am and also like I'm looking at it, and y'all,
Notre Dame is gonna make the playoff.
Speaker 4: No, they're gonna make it. No, they gonna make it.
Speaker 3: They're twelve, and you look at the way they have
left on their.
Speaker 9: Schedule at Boston College.
Speaker 3: Boston College is Cheeks. Navy's not gonna beat him. I
love Blake Corvath.
Speaker 4: He ain't beating them at pitt could be maybe Syracuse
and Stanford, and they don't have a they don't have
a conference championship.
Speaker 8: Notre Dame is there, cowards.
Speaker 3: Notre Dame's best win is going to be against the
twentieth rank team in the country and they're going to
make the playoff.
Speaker 9: Was it Angelly the backup at Notre Dame last season.
Speaker 3: Or yeah, he's one that came in for He was
leading the country in passing yards scuse.
Speaker 4: Before he went down, Oh yeah, that's true and yeah,
no Colin, you got your backup LSU quarterback six up.
Speaker 9: Ricky Collins.
Speaker 4: I'm like Collin, Ricky is a great, great red nickname.
Somebody need to get.
Speaker 8: Pretty Ricky Collins.
Speaker 4: Ricky Collins.
Speaker 8: I don't know if.
Speaker 7: Pass some legislation where there needs to be like presidential
what you calls I don't know where you're trying to
sign something presidential law. I can't remember the name of it.
Where somebody forces Notre Dame to join a executive order,
an executive order, an executive order to force Notre Dame.
Speaker 4: They're gonna get in the playoff because of their.
Speaker 7: Join a conference with You're as yet as the Chargers uniforms.
Speaker 9: Write them a letter, Write Trump a letter and ask him. Okay,
say smart President Matt Flynn.
Speaker 8: He's going to read that he's been in the White
House three times.
Speaker 9: Published art.
Speaker 4: Big true.
Speaker 8: Wow, he's the guy that Bush told me to watch
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Speaker 3: Nope, Nope, Probably should ask for ask the bench questions before.
Speaker 4: Uh ask the bench?
Speaker 3: Is it wrong that I really like Detroit now, even
though I've been a Packers fan for thirty years.
Speaker 4: That's like being a fan of Bama and l s U.
Speaker 8: Are you wrong for it?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Because if you look Bamma gum, if you've
got grit, if you've got determination, if you've got want to,
how can you deny Dan Campbell? It's hard, very hard.
I never cared about Detroit before Dan Campbell. Now it's
Dan Campbell and it's Kelvin Sheppard.
Speaker 11: He's probably he was probably the same way with Alabama.
And Saban being then he's Obama fan. You can be
a Kelvin Sheppard fan. I'll give you that for sure.
Speaker 4: You can be a a Campbell fan too, when you
don't hate Detroit.
Speaker 8: I don't hate Detroit. I got nothing against Detroit. Like them, this.
Speaker 4: Is Bears Packers.
Speaker 3: Biggest is that I have no idea Bears Bears. Yeah,
Like I hate the Raiders like the Raiders, and I'm
not rooting for.
Speaker 8: The oldest rivalry.
Speaker 4: It feels right.
Speaker 8: That's either that or they've played the most times.
Speaker 3: Right, Like I didn't really care about the Chiefs when
I was playing because they weren't you good.
Speaker 4: Broncos were.
Speaker 3: Once Jay Cutler left, I was like, okay, whatever Raiders.
Speaker 4: I was about to say something.
Speaker 3: I was about to quote it eminem lyric that I
don't know if I could have got away with.
Speaker 4: I'm glad I thought about it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the last segment.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just talking about like from the higher ups, oh,
not from the children listening in the car.
Speaker 8: Let's see a fun show.
Speaker 3: That's the bench. Where did you come from? Because you
don't belong here. I came from Street Fort.
Speaker 9: I was born in Greenville, South Carolina.
Speaker 7: Course city trigany mother of Francis Hospital.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a Shumpert hospital where I came from.
Speaker 8: Street streets.
Speaker 3: Asked the bench, what's what road sec game that you
played in had the best atmosphere? Jordan Hair, Auburn is
always pretty Yeah, sweet good stadium, good are bad day
or nine?
Speaker 8: Good place? Yeah place, that's the place.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the swamp can be up and down a
little bit. Yea is always always.
Speaker 3: I thought Bama was a little quieter than they made
it out to be. But Jared Hair was my favorite
to go to. It was always great. Great Atmas.
Speaker 8: Georgia was not much fun yet.
Speaker 3: Oh we got David Green just completed another pass on us.
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