Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham, the Great America, and welcome this Thursday
Speaker 1: afternoon in the tri State, and of course many are
Speaker 1: traveling thither and fro. The gasoline prices at are all
Speaker 1: time low. This morning, the employment number was unbelievable. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has broken four consecutive months. The expectations inflations on
Speaker 1: was non existent. Gasoline. I'm get gasoline now for about
Speaker 1: two dollars and eighty five cents a gallon. And the
Speaker 1: economy is great. Things are looking well on the southern border.
Speaker 1: The illegal crossings are non existent. Donald Trump is the
Speaker 1: peacemaker between the Congo and Rwanda, also between India and Pakistan. Also,
Speaker 1: what going on in Iran right now is incredible because
Speaker 1: of the leadership of Donald Trump and more. But until then,
Speaker 1: of course, Congressman Warren Davidson is with us now to
Speaker 1: talk about what's happening as we speak. And Congressmen, welcome
Speaker 1: again to the Bill Cunningham showing first of all, I'm
Speaker 1: one of those weird guys that was up at about
Speaker 1: three point fifteen and am this morning. So they vote
Speaker 1: was taken to proceed to the vote, and I guess
Speaker 1: there's a role in the House that says, you can
Speaker 1: speak unlimited, and it looks like it came. Jefferies has
Speaker 1: succeeded the role. It's unlimited. He's exceeded it. So can
Speaker 1: you tell the American people what's happening as we speak
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: Well, the House came back into session to vote on
Speaker 2: the Big Beautiful Bill, and we had voted on it
Speaker 2: back in May, but the Senate changed it, so it
Speaker 2: really doesn't have a way to the President until we
Speaker 2: vote on the same version. So the House was voting
Speaker 2: essentially on the Senate's version that passed earlier in the week.
Speaker 2: And not everyone gets unlimited time. The leader of each
Speaker 2: party gets what's known as a magic minute, and they're
Speaker 2: recognized for one minute, but it's never a minute. You know,
Speaker 2: they can speak as long as they hold the floor.
Speaker 2: And last Congress, or the last time Republicans were in
Speaker 2: the minority, Kevin McCarthy, I think on the American Rescue
Speaker 2: Plan or the Inflation Reduction Act one, he spoke for
Speaker 2: about eight and a half hours, and so I think
Speaker 2: at one twenty six Keem Jeffries will blow past that
Speaker 2: record and hold the longest for speech. So I think
Speaker 2: that's what he's going for and you know, who knows
Speaker 2: how much longer after that he'll go, but I think
Speaker 2: he's likely to go until at least roughly one point thirty.
Speaker 1: Well, activity is not the same as productivity, So there's
Speaker 1: lots of activity, but no productivity. How did Congressman Warren
Speaker 1: Davidson go from a no to a yes? It was you,
Speaker 1: And of course Thomas Massey was a no. Now you're
Speaker 1: going to be a yes? Explains your explain your position?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Beck, in May, there was still time
Speaker 2: to make progress. And I had hoped and frankly worked
Speaker 2: with a number of senators to make this a better bill.
Speaker 2: And you know, they made a great effort at making
Speaker 2: you a better bill. They did make some progress. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you look at people are like, what is salt
Speaker 2: salt state and local tax deductions. So most everyone, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're doing itemized deductions, ends up paying more than
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars in state and local taxes, property taxes,
Speaker 2: income taxes, all that stuff, and you know at your
Speaker 2: state or local level. And so they settled on ten
Speaker 2: thousand dollars as a cap. Last time we did the
Speaker 2: tax bill in twenty seventeen. Well, the high tax states
Speaker 2: like New York and California. They wanted to be They
Speaker 2: wanted it to be unlimited, and they negotiated to get
Speaker 2: it to be forty thousand dollars. But what the Senate
Speaker 2: did is they put an income cap on it. So
Speaker 2: instead of it costing about three hundred and fifty billion
Speaker 2: dollars to do this through twenty twenty eight, which is
Speaker 2: essentially a gift of three hundred and fifty billion dollars
Speaker 2: to blue amnesty states. It's a terrible deal. Shouldn't be
Speaker 2: in there at all, but unfortunately it is. But the
Speaker 2: Senate took it down to about two hundred billion, so
Speaker 2: we said about one hundred fifty billion dollars there. They
Speaker 2: had an AI surveillance expansion bill in there portion in
Speaker 2: the bill we got rid of that. They did do
Speaker 2: a little more aggressive reform on Medicaid. A lot of
Speaker 2: the rest of this stuff got work, honestly, but then
Speaker 2: you're like, well then why vote for it, and frank,
Speaker 2: it isn't great on deficits. It doesn't you know, in
Speaker 2: the long run, it does do better things if if
Speaker 2: you stayed with current policy, but no one ever does so,
Speaker 2: even with the even with high tariffs. Even with huge
Speaker 2: growth rates and even with very low interest rates, which
Speaker 2: I think is kind of unlikely, you still have bigger
Speaker 2: deficits under the big beautiful bill the entire Trump presidency.
Speaker 2: So that's hard to take. I mean, I said, I
Speaker 2: don't like that portion, and unfortunately we didn't get it better.
Speaker 2: But as I looked at the momentum, we run into
Speaker 2: the debt limit, we need to borrow more money to
Speaker 2: keep running the country by mid July. And you look
Speaker 2: at the momentum in the Senate and talk with senators
Speaker 2: over there and just talk with our own conference and
Speaker 2: know where the votes are. There's not really a path
Speaker 2: to make it better. So you know, at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, you know, if you're going to get
Speaker 2: something done, you could either you know, vote for the
Speaker 2: status quo, or you can vote for an imperfect bill
Speaker 2: that at least changes it in the right direction. So
Speaker 2: I think this moves in the right direction on a
Speaker 2: lot of policy, and it gives us the reason to
Speaker 2: come back and try again on another reconciliation bill.
Speaker 1: Congressman on the Medicaid front headlines constantly, one trillion dollar
Speaker 1: cut in Medicaid. We're being told relentlessly by the media.
Speaker 1: If you pay attention to the media, the mainstream media,
Speaker 1: all you hear about are the cuts, the cuts of
Speaker 1: the cuts and the cuts. In the last four years.
Speaker 1: Medicaid spending has gone up about fifty percent in the
Speaker 1: last four years, which is about twelve percent a year,
Speaker 1: as I understand it, Correct me if I'm wrong. It
Speaker 1: is perceived that medicaid spending will go up about six percent,
Speaker 1: go up six percent instead of going up ten to
Speaker 1: twelve percent now by correct of my numbers. And is
Speaker 1: that a cut? If you spend six percent more, is
Speaker 1: that a cut?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean characterizing any of it as a cut
Speaker 2: is really dishonest. I mean, we're going after fraud, waste,
Speaker 2: and abuse. You spend about nine hundred billion dollars a
Speaker 2: year on Medicaid, and the number that they throw out there,
Speaker 2: it's cutting by a trillion, is It's like, it cuts
Speaker 2: it by about you know, one hundred billion dollars a year,
Speaker 2: So ten times one hundred billion is a trillion, right,
Speaker 2: So they count these ten year scores, and what's quote
Speaker 2: getting cut? Well, you know, everyone I know would help
Speaker 2: a friend or need, not necessarily everyone, but you have
Speaker 2: somebody that you would help in need. But at some
Speaker 2: point you would say, well, you're going to if they're
Speaker 2: able bodied, work in age, don't have kids at home,
Speaker 2: you would say, well, you're going to get a job right,
Speaker 2: or go to school or do something productive. And you know,
Speaker 2: somehow Democrats act like it's mean if the government expects
Speaker 2: the same thing that every single person I know, regardless
Speaker 2: of their political ealogy, would do for their own family members.
Speaker 2: And so that's really you know, Bill Clinton and Nuke
Speaker 2: Gingrich did work requirements back in the nineties, but it's
Speaker 2: become superpartisan and that's hard to understand. But the even
Speaker 2: harder thing to understand is they're like, well, you're you know,
Speaker 2: you're kicking illegals off of Medicaid. Well, they're not supposed
Speaker 2: to be on medicaid in the first place. So states
Speaker 2: like California, in New York and you know, Illinois, they're
Speaker 2: working these loopholes to give medicaid to illegals. Everybody that
Speaker 2: shows up, they want to say, oh, yeah, healthcare is
Speaker 2: are right, Well, your neighbor's money is never your right.
Speaker 2: So and so that's the that's the challenge there. So
Speaker 2: we're kicking illegals off and we're kicking working age eighteen
Speaker 2: to sixty two adults with no kids at home off Medicaid,
Speaker 2: and that's the only people that are losing Medicaid. They're like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: this disabled kid, well you know that's not going to change.
Speaker 2: If you're an American with this disease, that's not going
Speaker 2: to change.
Speaker 1: If you're an American on Medicaid, you're actually an American
Speaker 1: and you're receiving medicaid.
Speaker 2: Is anything going to change only if you're like an
Speaker 2: able bodied eighteen to sixty two year old who isn't
Speaker 2: working or going to school or volunteering somewhere or in
Speaker 2: a rehab program. So like, if you're perfectly healthy and
Speaker 2: you're just not working, but you want to keep getting
Speaker 2: your neighbor's money for healthcare or food stamps, well now
Speaker 2: you got to go to work eventually.
Speaker 1: So the cuts in medicaid are two individuals that are
Speaker 1: illegally getting it, or able bodied adults that refuse to
Speaker 1: get off their mother's couch in the basement and actually work,
Speaker 1: go to school, or donate at time. And there are
Speaker 1: no cuts to Medicaid for Americans. But that message garbage in,
Speaker 1: garbage out. If all you hear from ABCNBCCBS, New York Times,
Speaker 1: Washington Boast. All you hear is cut, cut, cut, And
Speaker 1: then a poll is taken. Do you like cuts to medicaid?
Speaker 1: The garbage in, garbage out? The answer is going to be, well,
Speaker 1: guess what, I'm against that. But in reality it's not happening.
Speaker 1: But the truth has a hard time getting its pants
Speaker 1: on before lies can circle the globe, and so the
Speaker 1: lies circulate and the truths not getting out.
Speaker 2: That's ease, and the media works. The controlled media is
Speaker 2: out there. They're not just sitting by idly. They're actively
Speaker 2: selling the lie. They're doing everything they can to deceive
Speaker 2: the American people. And that's you know, it's just so dishonest.
Speaker 2: I mean, we need a free press in the country,
Speaker 2: but we get this controlled opposition that's got a huge megaphone.
Speaker 2: And you know, thank goodness for outlets like you guys
Speaker 2: and seven WLW, and you know platforms like x and
Speaker 2: Twitter where the truth can get out all right.
Speaker 1: Now, Secondly, the road not taken. Let's say King Jefferies
Speaker 1: at some point or caught flapping his jaws. You know,
Speaker 1: activity is not the same as productivity. And let's say
Speaker 1: he stops talking at some point later today, tomorrow, god
Speaker 1: knows when the media loves this kind of stuff, as
Speaker 1: if that this kind of behavior has a measurable impact.
Speaker 1: Number one, is the BBB actually going to pass sometime
Speaker 1: today or tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Are the votes there? We believe? So, I mean, you
Speaker 2: don't know until you vote. But right now, everybody thinks
Speaker 2: that it's going to pass. I have it checked with Thomas.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gone from no to yes.
Speaker 2: For sure. There's at least one or two other people
Speaker 2: that I think are considering voting no. But you know,
Speaker 2: we can lose four and it still passes. So I
Speaker 2: think I think we're very likely to see Built the
Speaker 2: Big Beautiful Bill pass the House today in President Trump's
Speaker 2: planning to sign it tomorrow on July fourth. As he asked.
Speaker 1: Congressman, what if it doesn't happen, talk about the impact
Speaker 1: on wag journers, the butchers, the bakers, the candlestick makers
Speaker 1: if it doesn't pass. I would also note, as you
Speaker 1: and I know, I think American people a few note
Speaker 1: some don't. The top one percent pay forty percent of
Speaker 1: the taxes, the top five percent pay seventy percent, and
Speaker 1: about fifty percent of the American people that work pay
Speaker 1: zero income tax. So when the media runs these scrawls
Speaker 1: about if you make five hundred thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 1: you get a tax cut, the fact of the matter
Speaker 1: is that those who pay taxes will get a tax cut,
Speaker 1: and those who don't pay taxes won't get a tax
Speaker 1: cut because they don't They don't pay taxes anyway. And
Speaker 1: when you take away taxes on tips in overtime, that's
Speaker 1: even fewer people under the fifty percent tle they're gonna
Speaker 1: pay any federal income tax. I know, the top one
Speaker 1: percent pay forty, the top five percent pay seventy. So
Speaker 1: when it's across the board tax cuts, those who pay
Speaker 1: the most will get the most tax cuts because they
Speaker 1: pay the most anyway. What if it doesn't pass? What
Speaker 1: happened to the average middle class American? If if this
Speaker 1: doesn't pass sometime today or tomorrow and the new tax
Speaker 1: rates kick in in January, what happens then?
Speaker 2: Well, here's the most immediate thing, is isn't the tax thing?
Speaker 2: I mean, we run out of the borrowing capacity. So
Speaker 2: by mid July or early August, we would run out
Speaker 2: of borrowing capacity, and we could we could risk the
Speaker 2: faulding on our day. And I mean that's the thing
Speaker 2: that we're worried about here. You know, as you talk
Speaker 2: about big spending and growing death sits and having more
Speaker 2: or debt. If you if you keep you know, spending
Speaker 2: more money than you bring in, you get to borrow
Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, we're borrowing a ton of money.
Speaker 2: And that is the most immediate That is the real deadline.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump once July fourth, But we have to do
Speaker 2: something about the debt limit. And a lot of people
Speaker 2: are like, well, how do you how do you raise
Speaker 2: the debt limit? Well, if we don't, there's no path
Speaker 2: to a balance budget quick. I mean, and just be clear,
Speaker 2: this doesn't just there's no plan out there that has
Speaker 2: been taken seriously that balances the budget faster than about
Speaker 2: ten years, because you got to you know, ease into
Speaker 2: it would be pretty dramatic. I mean, you could go,
Speaker 2: I've seen an aggressive plan that you know, maybe you
Speaker 2: could get by doing it in seven years, but you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to borrow money. You have to raise the
Speaker 2: debt limit, you know, for that kind of timeframe. So
Speaker 2: the debtlimit increase here gets the debt limit out past
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's presidency, so he doesn't have to deal with
Speaker 2: it and you know the rest of his presidential term,
Speaker 2: and we are going to not have a balanced budget
Speaker 2: the entire time Donald Trump's president and well into whoever
Speaker 2: the next president is, even if we start taking aggressive action.
Speaker 2: So that's the most immediate thing. The other thing is, look,
Speaker 2: the tax rates are are aren't going to go lower
Speaker 2: for a lot of people. They would go up if
Speaker 2: we don't change the law by January. And so I think,
Speaker 2: no matter what, we would at some point. But either way,
Speaker 2: we got to do something to prevent a tax increase. Right.
Speaker 2: And then there's people that there's people that are supposed
Speaker 2: to get a tax cut, and who are those people?
Speaker 2: They say, oh, you know, millionaires and billionaires. That's the
Speaker 2: whole narrative, and the media is sawing that line. The
Speaker 2: status quo is just locked in with this bill. The
Speaker 2: new taxes are going to people that get tips, waitresses,
Speaker 2: service industry people on cash tips. It's going to people
Speaker 2: that work overtime, so you don't have to pay tax
Speaker 2: on the overtime hours. I think about the Oliver Anthony song,
Speaker 2: you know, North of Richmond ain't crap and and it's
Speaker 2: tax to no end. And you know, working overtime hours
Speaker 2: for BSPA, And there's a lot of great lines in
Speaker 2: that song. I love the music. And you know you're
Speaker 2: thinking about the overtime hours. You're spending more time away
Speaker 2: for your family. You're pouring it in to keep the
Speaker 2: company going until you get through this surge or whatever
Speaker 2: with the overtime and you're making time and a half,
Speaker 2: sometimes double time whatever, but you're paying a lot of
Speaker 2: tax on that. So this gets rid of that, and
Speaker 2: it's a it's an incentive to surge and grow the economy.
Speaker 2: Uh and and so work the overtime and I think
Speaker 2: that'll change productivity in the country, which is what it's
Speaker 2: designed to do. So those are those aren't millionaires and
Speaker 2: billionaires working overtime hours. I mean, you know on an
Speaker 2: hourly basis, right, they're not. They're not collecting cash tips
Speaker 2: in the service industry. So those are the people that
Speaker 2: wouldn't get a tax break. And the other people is
Speaker 2: senior citizens. I mean, there's a four thousand dollars credit
Speaker 2: for Social Security recipients and you know the reason you
Speaker 2: and just exempt them is some people are making tons
Speaker 2: of money off real estate or whatever their other income is,
Speaker 2: so you didn't just exempt them from the income tax.
Speaker 2: But most people on their pure Social Security pay, I
Speaker 2: think over ninety percent their pure Social Security pay is
Speaker 2: going to be completely eliminated by a four thousand dollars
Speaker 2: credit if that was their only income.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, Congressman, that truth is casually when
Speaker 1: the media opens its mouth and well, I don't think
Speaker 1: Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are working for tips. I
Speaker 1: don't think they care much about overtime pay. I don't
Speaker 1: think they care much fucking in and out, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: But the whole media focuses on billionaires and millionaires. But
Speaker 1: if you're a tipped person, or if you're working overtime,
Speaker 1: how many cops and firefighters and bartenders and bar backs
Speaker 1: and those in the service industry really get overtime time
Speaker 1: away from family and friends and fund because they need
Speaker 1: more money. So if you work and you get tips,
Speaker 1: if you work and you look forward to overtime, if
Speaker 1: you get Social Security, this bill is for you.
Speaker 2: Is that the way the media pictures it is? That is?
Speaker 2: Does that what I hear from the media, Well, that's
Speaker 2: why we got to have one US free press like
Speaker 2: you guys. But but yeah, that's the mainstream controlled media
Speaker 2: is out there selling the lie that it's millionaires and
Speaker 2: billionaires and and and you know these guys aren't clocking in.
Speaker 2: You know, they're not on the clock working overtime hours, right,
Speaker 2: So you know that's the consequence. I mean, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of good things in here. And you know the
Speaker 2: other thing is, look, this border security is going great,
Speaker 2: but we got to get the illegals out of the country. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they need they need money. They need money to
Speaker 2: do it, and this bill provides the money. Uh and
Speaker 2: uh and then you know, we got the wins in
Speaker 2: the court. Now we just need to get the momentum
Speaker 2: out there and uh, you get the people that came
Speaker 2: in illegally out and uh and then we'll have the
Speaker 2: momentum to really do reforms. Uh. So I think it
Speaker 2: until we get all that done, there's really no path
Speaker 2: or reform anything.
Speaker 1: Lastly, about a minute remaining, Congressman Warren Davidson, I look
Speaker 1: again at the rebellion of the Neo Confederacy, which has
Speaker 1: risen its ugly head again by the Democrats. We spent
Speaker 1: about one hundred years fighting them resulting in the Civil War.
Speaker 1: About five hundred thousand, six hundred thousand my countrymen were
Speaker 1: killed because the Democrats will not comply with federal law.
Speaker 1: Here we are at another time, another place. Democrats are
Speaker 1: not complying with federal law. They ignore it. Whether it's Illinois,
Speaker 1: New York, the city of Cincinnati's a sanctuary city, California,
Speaker 1: et cetera. What would you say to those neo Confederates
Speaker 1: who now again went to violate federal law by not
Speaker 1: cooperating with Ice on the deportation of illegals.
Speaker 2: Well, look, the Articles of Confederation didn't have a national
Speaker 2: standard for citizenship, and the Constitution does. It was touted
Speaker 2: in the Federalist papers as one of the reasons to
Speaker 2: adopt the Constitution, and it's common sense. You can't have
Speaker 2: citizenship standards in every city in America or every state
Speaker 2: in America. There has to be one standard of what
Speaker 2: it means to be a United States citizen. And they
Speaker 2: want to nuke the entire idea of citizenship and Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's right to do that. We need to do another
Speaker 2: census so that we know who are the citizens. Because
Speaker 2: I represent citizens, Members of Congress represent citizens. If you're
Speaker 2: not a citizen. I'll help you find an embassy or
Speaker 2: a consulate. You have an ambassador, and we need to
Speaker 2: draw the congressional maps that way. Ohio's losing representation because
Speaker 2: of it. In California has five to extra five to
Speaker 2: seven extra members of Congress because they're counting non citizens.
Speaker 2: We need to fix that and you get to treat
Speaker 2: You got to citizenship matters, and that's that's what we
Speaker 2: got to force. And if it means putting some state
Speaker 2: and local officials in jail, I think the Trump administration
Speaker 2: is ready to do it.
Speaker 1: Well, let's see what happens. Is going to be an
Speaker 1: interesting afternoon. Hopefully by by sundown tonight or maybe by tomorrow.
Speaker 1: The fourth of July came, Jefferies will quit flapping his
Speaker 1: jaws a sound and fury signifying nothing, and hopefully there'll
Speaker 1: be a vote. And if you get a tip, if
Speaker 1: you're on Social Security, if if you will work for
Speaker 1: over time, you're going to love this Bill and Congressman
Speaker 1: Warren Davidson, you're a great American. Once again, thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and good luck
Speaker 1: later this afternoon.
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, God bless you and all your listeners
Speaker 2: and happy for Thank you very much, Congressman. Let's continue
Speaker 2: with more.
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