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<v Speaker 1>By Billy Cunningham, the Great America, and welcome this Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon in the tri State, and of course many are

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<v Speaker 1>traveling thither and fro. The gasoline prices at are all

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<v Speaker 1>time low. This morning, the employment number was unbelievable. Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has broken four consecutive months. The expectations inflations on

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<v Speaker 1>was non existent. Gasoline. I'm get gasoline now for about

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<v Speaker 1>two dollars and eighty five cents a gallon. And the

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<v Speaker 1>economy is great. Things are looking well on the southern border.

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<v Speaker 1>The illegal crossings are non existent. Donald Trump is the

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<v Speaker 1>peacemaker between the Congo and Rwanda, also between India and Pakistan. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>what going on in Iran right now is incredible because

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<v Speaker 1>of the leadership of Donald Trump and more. But until then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Congressman Warren Davidson is with us now to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what's happening as we speak. And Congressmen, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>again to the Bill Cunningham showing first of all, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one of those weird guys that was up at about

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<v Speaker 1>three point fifteen and am this morning. So they vote

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<v Speaker 1>was taken to proceed to the vote, and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>there's a role in the House that says, you can

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<v Speaker 1>speak unlimited, and it looks like it came. Jefferies has

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<v Speaker 1>succeeded the role. It's unlimited. He's exceeded it. So can

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<v Speaker 1>you tell the American people what's happening as we speak

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<v Speaker 1>right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the House came back into session to vote on

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Beautiful Bill, and we had voted on it

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<v Speaker 2>back in May, but the Senate changed it, so it

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<v Speaker 2>really doesn't have a way to the President until we

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<v Speaker 2>vote on the same version. So the House was voting

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<v Speaker 2>essentially on the Senate's version that passed earlier in the week.

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<v Speaker 2>And not everyone gets unlimited time. The leader of each

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<v Speaker 2>party gets what's known as a magic minute, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>recognized for one minute, but it's never a minute. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they can speak as long as they hold the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>And last Congress, or the last time Republicans were in

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<v Speaker 2>the minority, Kevin McCarthy, I think on the American Rescue

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<v Speaker 2>Plan or the Inflation Reduction Act one, he spoke for

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<v Speaker 2>about eight and a half hours, and so I think

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<v Speaker 2>at one twenty six Keem Jeffries will blow past that

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<v Speaker 2>record and hold the longest for speech. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he's going for and you know, who knows

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<v Speaker 2>how much longer after that he'll go, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's likely to go until at least roughly one point thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, activity is not the same as productivity, So there's

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<v Speaker 1>lots of activity, but no productivity. How did Congressman Warren

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<v Speaker 1>Davidson go from a no to a yes? It was you,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course Thomas Massey was a no. Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a yes? Explains your explain your position?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, Beck, in May, there was still time

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<v Speaker 2>to make progress. And I had hoped and frankly worked

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<v Speaker 2>with a number of senators to make this a better bill.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, they made a great effort at making

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<v Speaker 2>you a better bill. They did make some progress. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at people are like, what is salt

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<v Speaker 2>salt state and local tax deductions. So most everyone, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're doing itemized deductions, ends up paying more than

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand dollars in state and local taxes, property taxes,

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<v Speaker 2>income taxes, all that stuff, and you know at your

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<v Speaker 2>state or local level. And so they settled on ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars as a cap. Last time we did the

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<v Speaker 2>tax bill in twenty seventeen. Well, the high tax states

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<v Speaker 2>like New York and California. They wanted to be They

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<v Speaker 2>wanted it to be unlimited, and they negotiated to get

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<v Speaker 2>it to be forty thousand dollars. But what the Senate

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<v Speaker 2>did is they put an income cap on it. So

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<v Speaker 2>instead of it costing about three hundred and fifty billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to do this through twenty twenty eight, which is

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<v Speaker 2>essentially a gift of three hundred and fifty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>to blue amnesty states. It's a terrible deal. Shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>in there at all, but unfortunately it is. But the

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<v Speaker 2>Senate took it down to about two hundred billion, so

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<v Speaker 2>we said about one hundred fifty billion dollars there. They

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<v Speaker 2>had an AI surveillance expansion bill in there portion in

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<v Speaker 2>the bill we got rid of that. They did do

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<v Speaker 2>a little more aggressive reform on Medicaid. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of this stuff got work, honestly, but then

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, well then why vote for it, and frank,

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<v Speaker 2>it isn't great on deficits. It doesn't you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the long run, it does do better things if if

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<v Speaker 2>you stayed with current policy, but no one ever does so,

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<v Speaker 2>even with the even with high tariffs. Even with huge

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<v Speaker 2>I think is kind of unlikely, you still have bigger

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<v Speaker 2>deficits under the big beautiful bill the entire Trump presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's hard to take. I mean, I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like that portion, and unfortunately we didn't get it better.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I looked at the momentum, we run into

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<v Speaker 2>the debt limit, we need to borrow more money to

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<v Speaker 2>keep running the country by mid July. And you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the momentum in the Senate and talk with senators

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<v Speaker 2>over there and just talk with our own conference and

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<v Speaker 2>know where the votes are. There's not really a path

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<v Speaker 2>to make it better. So you know, at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, you know, if you're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>something done, you could either you know, vote for the

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<v Speaker 2>status quo, or you can vote for an imperfect bill

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<v Speaker 2>that at least changes it in the right direction. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think this moves in the right direction on a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of policy, and it gives us the reason to

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<v Speaker 2>come back and try again on another reconciliation bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman on the Medicaid front headlines constantly, one trillion dollar

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<v Speaker 1>cut in Medicaid. We're being told relentlessly by the media.

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<v Speaker 1>If you pay attention to the media, the mainstream media,

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<v Speaker 1>all you hear about are the cuts, the cuts of

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<v Speaker 1>the cuts and the cuts. In the last four years.

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<v Speaker 1>Medicaid spending has gone up about fifty percent in the

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<v Speaker 1>last four years, which is about twelve percent a year,

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<v Speaker 1>as I understand it, Correct me if I'm wrong. It

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<v Speaker 1>is perceived that medicaid spending will go up about six percent,

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<v Speaker 1>go up six percent instead of going up ten to

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<v Speaker 1>twelve percent now by correct of my numbers. And is

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<v Speaker 1>that a cut? If you spend six percent more, is

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<v Speaker 1>that a cut?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean characterizing any of it as a cut

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<v Speaker 2>is really dishonest. I mean, we're going after fraud, waste,

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<v Speaker 2>and abuse. You spend about nine hundred billion dollars a

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<v Speaker 2>year on Medicaid, and the number that they throw out there,

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<v Speaker 2>it's cutting by a trillion, is It's like, it cuts

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<v Speaker 2>it by about you know, one hundred billion dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 2>So ten times one hundred billion is a trillion, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So they count these ten year scores, and what's quote

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<v Speaker 2>getting cut? Well, you know, everyone I know would help

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<v Speaker 2>a friend or need, not necessarily everyone, but you have

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that you would help in need. But at some

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<v Speaker 2>point you would say, well, you're going to if they're

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<v Speaker 2>able bodied, work in age, don't have kids at home,

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<v Speaker 2>you would say, well, you're going to get a job right,

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<v Speaker 2>or go to school or do something productive. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>somehow Democrats act like it's mean if the government expects

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing that every single person I know, regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of their political ealogy, would do for their own family members.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's really you know, Bill Clinton and Nuke

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<v Speaker 2>Gingrich did work requirements back in the nineties, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>become superpartisan and that's hard to understand. But the even

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<v Speaker 2>harder thing to understand is they're like, well, you're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're kicking illegals off of Medicaid. Well, they're not supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be on medicaid in the first place. So states

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<v Speaker 2>like California, in New York and you know, Illinois, they're

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<v Speaker 2>working these loopholes to give medicaid to illegals. Everybody that

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<v Speaker 2>shows up, they want to say, oh, yeah, healthcare is

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<v Speaker 2>are right, Well, your neighbor's money is never your right.

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<v Speaker 2>So and so that's the that's the challenge there. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're kicking illegals off and we're kicking working age eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the only people that are losing Medicaid. They're like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this disabled kid, well you know that's not going to change.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're an American with this disease, that's not going

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<v Speaker 1>If you're an American on Medicaid, you're actually an American

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<v Speaker 1>and you're receiving medicaid.

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<v Speaker 2>Is anything going to change only if you're like an

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<v Speaker 2>able bodied eighteen to sixty two year old who isn't

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<v Speaker 2>working or going to school or volunteering somewhere or in

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<v Speaker 2>a rehab program. So like, if you're perfectly healthy and

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<v Speaker 2>you're just not working, but you want to keep getting

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<v Speaker 2>your neighbor's money for healthcare or food stamps, well now

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<v Speaker 2>you got to go to work eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>So the cuts in medicaid are two individuals that are

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<v Speaker 1>illegally getting it, or able bodied adults that refuse to

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<v Speaker 1>get off their mother's couch in the basement and actually work,

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<v Speaker 1>go to school, or donate at time. And there are

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<v Speaker 1>no cuts to Medicaid for Americans. But that message garbage in,

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<v Speaker 1>garbage out. If all you hear from ABCNBCCBS, New York Times,

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Boast. All you hear is cut, cut, cut, And

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<v Speaker 1>then a poll is taken. Do you like cuts to medicaid?

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<v Speaker 1>The garbage in, garbage out? The answer is going to be, well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, I'm against that. But in reality it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth has a hard time getting its pants

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<v Speaker 1>on before lies can circle the globe, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>lies circulate and the truths not getting out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's ease, and the media works. The controlled media is

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<v Speaker 2>out there. They're not just sitting by idly. They're actively

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<v Speaker 2>selling the lie. They're doing everything they can to deceive

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<v Speaker 2>the American people. And that's you know, it's just so dishonest.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we need a free press in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>but we get this controlled opposition that's got a huge megaphone.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, thank goodness for outlets like you guys

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<v Speaker 2>and seven WLW, and you know platforms like x and

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter where the truth can get out all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Secondly, the road not taken. Let's say King Jefferies

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<v Speaker 1>at some point or caught flapping his jaws. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>activity is not the same as productivity. And let's say

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<v Speaker 1>he stops talking at some point later today, tomorrow, god

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<v Speaker 1>knows when the media loves this kind of stuff, as

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<v Speaker 1>if that this kind of behavior has a measurable impact.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, is the BBB actually going to pass sometime

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<v Speaker 1>today or tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 2>Are the votes there? We believe? So, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know until you vote. But right now, everybody thinks

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<v Speaker 2>that it's going to pass. I have it checked with Thomas.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's gone from no to yes.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure. There's at least one or two other people

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<v Speaker 2>that I think are considering voting no. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we can lose four and it still passes. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think we're very likely to see Built the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Beautiful Bill pass the House today in President Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>planning to sign it tomorrow on July fourth. As he asked.

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman, what if it doesn't happen, talk about the impact

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<v Speaker 1>some don't. The top one percent pay forty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the taxes, the top five percent pay seventy percent, and

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<v Speaker 1>about fifty percent of the American people that work pay

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<v Speaker 1>zero income tax. So when the media runs these scrawls

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<v Speaker 1>about if you make five hundred thousand dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a tax cut, the fact of the matter

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<v Speaker 1>is that those who pay taxes will get a tax cut,

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<v Speaker 1>and those who don't pay taxes won't get a tax

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<v Speaker 1>cut because they don't They don't pay taxes anyway. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you take away taxes on tips in overtime, that's

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<v Speaker 1>even fewer people under the fifty percent tle they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay any federal income tax. I know, the top one

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<v Speaker 1>percent pay forty, the top five percent pay seventy. So

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<v Speaker 1>when it's across the board tax cuts, those who pay

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<v Speaker 1>pay the most anyway. What if it doesn't pass? What

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<v Speaker 1>happened to the average middle class American? If if this

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's the most immediate thing, is isn't the tax thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we run out of the borrowing capacity. So

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<v Speaker 2>of borrowing capacity, and we could we could risk the

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<v Speaker 2>faulding on our day. And I mean that's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that we're worried about here. You know, as you talk

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<v Speaker 2>or debt. If you if you keep you know, spending

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. I mean, we're borrowing a ton of money.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the most immediate That is the real deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump once July fourth, But we have to do

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<v Speaker 2>something about the debt limit. And a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are like, well, how do you how do you raise

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<v Speaker 2>the debt limit? Well, if we don't, there's no path

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<v Speaker 2>to a balance budget quick. I mean, and just be clear,

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't just there's no plan out there that has

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<v Speaker 2>been taken seriously that balances the budget faster than about

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<v Speaker 2>ten years, because you got to you know, ease into

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<v Speaker 2>it would be pretty dramatic. I mean, you could go,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen an aggressive plan that you know, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>could get by doing it in seven years, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to borrow money. You have to raise the

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<v Speaker 2>debt limit, you know, for that kind of timeframe. So

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<v Speaker 2>the debtlimit increase here gets the debt limit out past

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's presidency, so he doesn't have to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>it and you know the rest of his presidential term,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are going to not have a balanced budget

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<v Speaker 2>the entire time Donald Trump's president and well into whoever

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<v Speaker 2>the next president is, even if we start taking aggressive action.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the most immediate thing. The other thing is, look,

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<v Speaker 2>the tax rates are are aren't going to go lower

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of people. They would go up if

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<v Speaker 2>we don't change the law by January. And so I think,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what, we would at some point. But either way,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to do something to prevent a tax increase. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's people that there's people that are supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to get a tax cut, and who are those people?

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<v Speaker 2>They say, oh, you know, millionaires and billionaires. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>whole narrative, and the media is sawing that line. The

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<v Speaker 2>status quo is just locked in with this bill. The

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<v Speaker 2>new taxes are going to people that get tips, waitresses,

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<v Speaker 2>service industry people on cash tips. It's going to people

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<v Speaker 2>that work overtime, so you don't have to pay tax

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<v Speaker 2>on the overtime hours. I think about the Oliver Anthony song,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, North of Richmond ain't crap and and it's

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<v Speaker 2>tax to no end. And you know, working overtime hours

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<v Speaker 2>for BSPA, And there's a lot of great lines in

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<v Speaker 2>that song. I love the music. And you know you're

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about the overtime hours. You're spending more time away

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<v Speaker 2>for your family. You're pouring it in to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>with the overtime and you're making time and a half,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes double time whatever, but you're paying a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>tax on that. So this gets rid of that, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's an incentive to surge and grow the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and and so work the overtime and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that'll change productivity in the country, which is what it's

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<v Speaker 2>designed to do. So those are those aren't millionaires and

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<v Speaker 2>billionaires working overtime hours. I mean, you know on an

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<v Speaker 2>hourly basis, right, they're not. They're not collecting cash tips

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<v Speaker 2>in the service industry. So those are the people that

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't get a tax break. And the other people is

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<v Speaker 2>senior citizens. I mean, there's a four thousand dollars credit

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<v Speaker 2>for Social Security recipients and you know the reason you

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<v Speaker 2>and just exempt them is some people are making tons

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<v Speaker 2>of money off real estate or whatever their other income is,

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<v Speaker 2>so you didn't just exempt them from the income tax.

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<v Speaker 2>But most people on their pure Social Security pay, I

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<v Speaker 2>think over ninety percent their pure Social Security pay is

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<v Speaker 2>credit if that was their only income.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the thing is, Congressman, that truth is casually when

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<v Speaker 1>the media opens its mouth and well, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are working for tips. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they care much about overtime pay. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they care much fucking in and out, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But the whole media focuses on billionaires and millionaires. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a tipped person, or if you're working overtime,

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<v Speaker 1>how many cops and firefighters and bartenders and bar backs

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<v Speaker 1>and those in the service industry really get overtime time

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<v Speaker 1>away from family and friends and fund because they need

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<v Speaker 1>more money. So if you work and you get tips,

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<v Speaker 1>if you work and you look forward to overtime, if

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<v Speaker 1>you get Social Security, this bill is for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the way the media pictures it is? That is?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that what I hear from the media, Well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>why we got to have one US free press like

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<v Speaker 2>you guys. But but yeah, that's the mainstream controlled media

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<v Speaker 2>is out there selling the lie that it's millionaires and

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<v Speaker 2>billionaires and and and you know these guys aren't clocking in.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're not on the clock working overtime hours, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know that's the consequence. I mean, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of good things in here. And you know the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing is, look, this border security is going great,

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<v Speaker 2>but we got to get the illegals out of the country. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and they need they need money. They need money to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and this bill provides the money. Uh and

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<v Speaker 2>uh and then you know, we got the wins in

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<v Speaker 2>the court. Now we just need to get the momentum

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<v Speaker 2>out there and uh, you get the people that came

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<v Speaker 2>momentum to really do reforms. Uh. So I think it

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<v Speaker 2>until we get all that done, there's really no path

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, about a minute remaining, Congressman Warren Davidson, I look

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<v Speaker 1>again at the rebellion of the Neo Confederacy, which has

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<v Speaker 1>risen its ugly head again by the Democrats. We spent

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred years fighting them resulting in the Civil War.

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<v Speaker 1>About five hundred thousand, six hundred thousand my countrymen were

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<v Speaker 1>Here we are at another time, another place. Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>not complying with federal law. They ignore it. Whether it's Illinois,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. What would you say to those neo Confederates

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<v Speaker 1>who now again went to violate federal law by not

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, the Articles of Confederation didn't have a national

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<v Speaker 2>standard for citizenship, and the Constitution does. It was touted

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<v Speaker 2>in the Federalist papers as one of the reasons to

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<v Speaker 2>adopt the Constitution, and it's common sense. You can't have

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<v Speaker 2>citizenship standards in every city in America or every state

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<v Speaker 2>in America. There has to be one standard of what

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<v Speaker 2>it means to be a United States citizen. And they

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<v Speaker 2>want to nuke the entire idea of citizenship and Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's right to do that. We need to do another

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<v Speaker 2>census so that we know who are the citizens. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I represent citizens, Members of Congress represent citizens. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>not a citizen. I'll help you find an embassy or

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<v Speaker 2>a consulate. You have an ambassador, and we need to

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<v Speaker 2>draw the congressional maps that way. Ohio's losing representation because

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<v Speaker 2>of it. In California has five to extra five to

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<v Speaker 2>We need to fix that and you get to treat

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<v Speaker 2>You got to citizenship matters, and that's that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's see what happens. Is going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting afternoon. Hopefully by by sundown tonight or maybe by tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>The fourth of July came, Jefferies will quit flapping his

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<v Speaker 1>jaws a sound and fury signifying nothing, and hopefully there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a vote. And if you get a tip, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're on Social Security, if if you will work for

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<v Speaker 1>over time, you're going to love this Bill and Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Davidson, you're a great American. Once again, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and good luck

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<v Speaker 1>later this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a lot, God bless you and all your listeners

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<v Speaker 2>and happy for Thank you very much, Congressman. Let's continue

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