WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:07.360 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:15.000 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's nit coffee. 3 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:17.839 That's right, four o'clock hour, getting started here on a 4 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:20.559 Friday afternoon. It is Coffee and Company that's us. We 5 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:22.879 are fuel Beuth Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety 6 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:25.800 Nit Coffee with you. The one and only Austin Montgomery 7 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:27.839 on site with me today as we come to you 8 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:31.280 live from the Alex R. White Lawyers offices. So Distracted 9 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:34.240 Driver dot Com great partners of ours. We certainly appreciate 10 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:36.280 them partnering with us this year for the for the 11 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:38.320 post game show, which we will have tonight because it 12 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.200 is game day, our first game day edition of Coffee 13 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:44.240 and Company this year. For Louisville football, we were kind 14 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.679 of well, I was spoiled last year because it was 15 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:51.719 nice to have to have some weekday games because it 16 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:53.359 gives me a chance to, you know, just sit back 17 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:55.799 and observe all the college football going on on a Saturday. 18 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:59.119 And I'm pretty sure, yeah, Louisville last year, I mean 19 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:00.880 they won ten of the reg of their season games, 20 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:04.079 so none of their losses happen to come on those weeknights, 21 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:07.519 so we'll have pregame shows starting here at six thirty, 22 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:09.879 so you'll get a thirty minute break for me. I 23 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:12.319 do apologies. I'm sure you guys want nothing but just 24 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:16.480 non stop Nick coffee yapp and but you know we 25 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:18.040 can only do I can only do so much. So 26 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:20.040 pregame show is gonna start here at six thirty persented 27 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:23.319 by Pellow Windows endors with Central Kentucky and Jefferson Animal Hospital, 28 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:24.840 and then as soon as the game ends, it'll be 29 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:28.239 a late night tonight, probably gonna be some drunk folks, which, 30 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:30.200 to be honest with you, as long as you're responsible, 31 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:32.239 I'm for it. Drunk phone calls on the postgame show 32 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:33.920 can be a lot of fun. Now you can't curse, 33 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:36.319 because sometimes people do that too much. Then we got 34 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:37.680 to hit the dump button, and then it becomes an 35 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:39.519 issue to where like we can't take calls for a 36 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:41.840 minute because we got to let the dump button catch 37 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:43.280 back up. I'm getting way too deep in the weeds 38 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:45.480 when it comes to radio terminology. But you know, have 39 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:48.120 fun tonight responsibly. And when I say responsibly, I don't 40 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:50.319 mean just you know, with your booze, but like you know, 41 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:52.799 you can probably get your point across without dropping f 42 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:55.799 bombs and whatnot. But I hope that we will be 43 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:58.079 reacting to a Louisville wind, and I believe we will. 44 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:00.439 But I'm also to a point where a whole lot 45 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:02.959 would really shock me with this Louisville team. Uh, to 46 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:06.159 be honest with you, all right, Uh, I think I 47 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:07.920 made I may have made a mistake here. I've got 48 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:10.280 a C four energy drink and I thought this was 49 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:12.919 just like a regular energy drink, but this is one 50 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:17.759 that's like performance as well, which I mean it's it's 51 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:19.840 I think it's like pre workout, so like I'm sitting 52 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:24.360 here tingling and like, yeah, I'm kind of tingling here, 53 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:27.000 which is which isn't which isn't great for me. But 54 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:29.639 at least you know, you can't say I'm not ready 55 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:32.759 for the show I've got. I've got pre workout as 56 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:35.360 I sit here at an office itching and sweating. But 57 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:38.319 you're usually a monster guy, aren't. Oh yeah, this made 58 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:40.280 It was in the fridge and I didn't have time 59 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:41.800 to stop any years. So that's what I ended up with. 60 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.199 All right, let's bring him in. He is Alex Kupper, 61 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:47.199 former Louts of a Cardinal joins us each and every 62 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:50.919 week to talk some Louisville Football Cup. If you heard 63 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:52.719 me there, I just I just took a pre workout 64 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:55.120 not knowing it. Have you ever done that? If you 65 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:56.759 ever taken a pre workout and then like the gym 66 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:58.800 was closed or you forgot you had something going on 67 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:00.680 and then you're just not working out and you're just 68 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:04.479 itching and you know, sweating. That's where I'm at right now. 69 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:07.439 How did you not know you were taking it? 70 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:11.680 So there's different C fours. Apparently there's C four that 71 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:15.479 is Sport Plus Fitness Performance Drink, which I guess is 72 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:17.840 like a pre workout drink. I thought it was just 73 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:20.960 the Sea four like energy drink, so right, just I 74 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.240 mean it's it's a very nick coffee type move. Not 75 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:26.520 to go a third person, but like you know, people 76 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:29.000 hear that story that I just shared and probably think, yeah, 77 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:30.960 I could see him doing that. So I learned the 78 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:32.879 hard way when it comes to uh, to a lot 79 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:34.680 of things. But you know, if anything, I'm ready, you know, 80 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:38.000 if there's any if I need to drop, if I 81 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:39.360 need to go, yeah, I mean, if they need me, 82 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:41.280 I'll take a flight to Boston. And if they need 83 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:42.639 me out there. I don't know how long this thing 84 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:44.879 is gonna last as far as me being ready, but 85 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:47.039 you know, anything to help the cards, and they won't. 86 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:49.520 I hope they don't need my help tonight. But this 87 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.800 is this is clearly not an easy If there was 88 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:53.800 an easy way to just for teams to figure out 89 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:56.000 how they can clean things up, put it all together, 90 00:03:56.439 --> 00:03:59.759 avoid sloppy play, avoid mistakes that that are avoidable. If 91 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:01.680 that was easy to do, that nobody would make mistakes. 92 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:05.000 But from your your perspective, your experience is a guy 93 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:06.960 who played the game at the highest level here at 94 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:09.680 Louisville and also in the NFL, when you see teams 95 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:12.520 that do, in fact have a habit of making mistakes 96 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:14.599 that you just feel like are really crucial. Nobody's asking 97 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:16.920 anybody to be perfect. That's not realistic. But what do 98 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:20.000 you feel like is usually the root cause of teams 99 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:23.319 that just have a tough time seven games in really 100 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:25.720 putting it all together, putting together a complete game. 101 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:29.439 I mean, at the end of the day, if if 102 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:32.480 stuff doesn't go your way, and you you know you are, 103 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:34.759 you do everything right, you feel like you're you know 104 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:38.079 you're you're putting in the work you need you you, yeah, 105 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:43.160 it's only it's only resulting in and bad results. You 106 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:45.199 kind of you can you can be a little disheartened 107 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:47.360 if you if you don't trust, you know, in yourself, 108 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:50.319 don't trust in your team. You can see you can 109 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:54.639 see the cracks develop, you know, unfortunately, and and you know, 110 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:57.279 you have to have belief, you know, that's the biggest 111 00:04:57.319 --> 00:04:59.800 thing when you're playing football. You got to believe that 112 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:02.480 what you're doing is the right stuff. You're being coached 113 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:05.360 the right way, you're being led by the leadership of 114 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:09.360 your team the right way. And if you have those things, 115 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:11.759 you can get out of these ruts that they're in. 116 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:15.360 And you just I mean, when it comes to playing 117 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:20.360 really good teams, if you doubt yourself one second, one play, 118 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:22.879 that's the crack that they're going to need, you know, 119 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:24.639 to pick up a third and twenty two and when 120 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:26.240 you should have got off the field, you know, and 121 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:29.560 there's countless examples in that game where it's like, God, why, 122 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:31.959 you know, why couldn't we make this happen? So you 123 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:34.720 start to doubt yourself and you i mean, a football 124 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:36.920 team like this on the ropes, So you cannot let 125 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:37.519 that slipper in. 126 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:42.360 Yeah, and you mentioned starting to doubt yourself whenever these 127 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.120 mistakes become sort of a regular thing, And I think 128 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:48.439 you know, to be honest with you, like I think tonight, 129 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:51.000 you know, and again, players, I'm sure aren't worried about 130 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:53.040 tonight what fans think. I mean, I'm sure they appreciate 131 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:54.759 the fans, but they're focused on the task at hand, 132 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:57.639 their assignment, all that stuff that you hear coaches mentioned. 133 00:05:57.839 --> 00:05:59.959 But I do think for this group, they know that 134 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.279 they've not put together a complete game, they haven't put 135 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:04.399 it all together, and they've really had to look in 136 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:06.120 the mirror when it comes to at least two of 137 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:08.040 these losses. I mean, you always have to look in 138 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:09.279 the mirror when you lose a game and know that 139 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:11.759 you could have played better. But you know, the SMU game, 140 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:13.199 the Notre Dame game, it just felt like there were 141 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:14.759 some things you could have easily avoided that would have 142 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:18.199 potentially given you a different outcome. I think tonight, what's 143 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:20.519 really on the line for this group specifically, And obviously 144 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:22.560 they want to win every game. The next game is 145 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:25.240 always the most important game. There's a reason those cliches exist. 146 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:27.439 But I feel like if they do play well, and 147 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:29.639 not asking them to blow Boston College out, but if 148 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:31.560 they play well and you look back and say, Okay, 149 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:33.720 they really tighten things up. I feel like that can 150 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.160 go a long way for these guys specifically, from like 151 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:38.600 a mental perspective, it could be the confirmation that hey, 152 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:40.720 we know we got some good dudes, we know we've 153 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:43.439 got ability, but the one thing we haven't done is 154 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:44.759 put it all together. Even though it's going to be 155 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:46.560 against the team that most people assume that you're better 156 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.199 than I think tonight, if they do put it all together, 157 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:51.560 not to say that I think that that means they're 158 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:53.160 going to win every game the rest of the season. 159 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.120 But I feel like for these guys internally, it could 160 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:56.040 really really help. 161 00:06:55.879 --> 00:07:00.759 Them absolutely and prove that you can and again once 162 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:02.839 again go on the road and win a conference game. 163 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:04.120 I mean, that's what you're gonna have to do. 164 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:05.680 You have to go on the if you're gonna make 165 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:07.399 something this season, it's got to be done on the 166 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:10.399 road every every you know, I know Pittsburgh is at home, 167 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.399 but clearly, I mean this team it feels a lot 168 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.519 like you know, coach Stronk's first year twenty ten we 169 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:17.759 had a much better I got. 170 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:19.439 I think we're like we won four. 171 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:21.920 Games, four of our six or seven games on on 172 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:24.199 the road. You know, we would we would always just 173 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:26.360 end up laying eggs at home and just couldn't get 174 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:29.160 it done at home when we had like the the 175 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:31.439 emotion and the energy of the fan base back on 176 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.319 our side and which which this team had last week, and. 177 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:36.439 It still didn't didn't really do it much. 178 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:39.240 So hopefully it is that bunker mentality. You know, you're 179 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:41.800 you're on the road, it's you're you, you're all, you 180 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:44.480 got the traveling parties, all you got a specially up 181 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.480 in Boston. You're not gonna bring anybody up there. Lock 182 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:50.600 in focus, do your job, believe that you can do 183 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:52.600 your job to the best of your ability, and go 184 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:53.199 out and get a win. 185 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.600 Now, am I wrong? Here? Did you did you play 186 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:00.720 for Bill O'Brien with the tech since did he get 187 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:01.519 there right after you? 188 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:04.199 You're absolutely right? Nope, nope, nope, you're right. 189 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:08.240 You're so tell me tell us that he's he's pretty 190 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:10.839 well respected. It seems like as far as a guy 191 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:13.800 that you know, I mean, I mean, he's proven to 192 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:15.720 be a pretty good coach, but Obviously, him taking the 193 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:17.399 Boston College job seemed like a little bit of a 194 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:19.399 surprise to a lot of people, just because it's not 195 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:21.639 viewed as a great job. But he's got some Boston connections, 196 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:24.560 his family's up there. But you know, how how good 197 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:26.879 can Boston College be in this new world with a 198 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:29.240 guy that is a really good coach and and and 199 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:30.920 you know has proven that over time. 200 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:34.879 Yeah, I mean he is a hard He's a hard nosed, 201 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.600 old school kind of guy. I mean, he's he he 202 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:40.879 understands the changes in the landscape and gets all that thing, 203 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:42.200 gets all you know. 204 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:42.240 The. 205 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:47.000 Complexities of college football. So he you know, he's been 206 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:50.120 back in it long enough, being at Alabama and everything. 207 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:53.440 But yeah, he's he is a very knowledge He knows 208 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:55.960 the game really well. I could say, I would say 209 00:08:56.000 --> 00:09:01.200 he could be stubborn at times, obviously seeing that you know, 210 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.039 there's you know, you get stuck in your ways and 211 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.240 you you know, if that way is not going right. 212 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:08.000 You know, so if we if we can catch. 213 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:10.840 A beat on them and beat them at their you 214 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:11.840 know what they're trying to do. 215 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:14.399 I mean, he's he's gonna try and stick to. 216 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:16.840 And believe that his game plan was better than what 217 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.120 coach Browman and the defense and offense. 218 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:20.480 Had laid out. 219 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.000 So yeah, I would say the biggest thing we got 220 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.759 to do is to start fast, start fast and make 221 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:29.240 plays because they're you know, they're gonna they're gonna keep 222 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:30.879 coming at you. They're always going to be hungry. He's 223 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.759 never gonna let them quit. So that's you know, it's 224 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:36.840 a four quarterball game. It's a really hit his his 225 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:41.480 uh speech in mantras is a lot like coach Broms. 226 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:44.320 Really, I mean, I I think that. I mean again, 227 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:45.879 there's a lot of football to be played, and I 228 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:47.440 wouldn't lie to you and say that I think Boston 229 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:49.600 College is a great team. But I think there at 230 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:52.240 times this year they've not only overperformed with how they've 231 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.639 beat teams, but you know, they play hard like you could. 232 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:57.159 I mean, to me, they they looked like a team 233 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.000 that is a reflection of that guy on the sideline 234 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:00.919 when I watched him a couple of time earlier this year. 235 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:02.759 Are you surprised at all? And again, it's tough to 236 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:05.200 get an NFL gig, but he had a winning record 237 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:08.279 as as as a head coach in the NFL, and 238 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:10.840 he coached many years, had many winning seasons, and he 239 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:13.320 went oh and four before being fired in twenty twenty. 240 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.360 So before that he was eight games above five hundred, 241 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:18.039 which isn't you know, it's not like he's winning playoff 242 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:20.320 games or anything like that. But usually if guys can 243 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:23.759 consistently win, which he did other than you know, one 244 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:26.399 real outlier season where they were bad, usually those guys 245 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.879 that are reachreads, they get opportunities. Are you surprised he's 246 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:30.480 he's not landed back in the NFL? 247 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:35.120 You know it get he gets I mean the rap 248 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:35.679 in it. 249 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:38.559 It is very you know, there's a lot of times 250 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:40.559 you would sit there and think it's like, okay, this 251 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.720 this all this mantra and this you know, it's the 252 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:47.799 parcels Belichick kind of our aura where it's like, if 253 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:50.200 you don't have Tom Brady, this is this is gonna 254 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:51.919 be a hard thing to you know, it's kind of 255 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:54.799 be a hard thing to duplicate and and see could 256 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:59.519 actually yeah, oh my god, so many times I've thought 257 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:02.080 are with think that, like, you know, this this is 258 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:04.960 a really good offense if you have a quarterback under center, 259 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:07.759 that it can get you in the right play when 260 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:09.840 you're in a bad play. I mean that's essentially what 261 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:12.480 Tom Brady did for all those years was I mean 262 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:15.279 they they very rarely ran a play where it was 263 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:19.480 into a pressure that they couldn't block, or a run, 264 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:23.600 a run that wasn't you know, dialed up exactly right, 265 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:26.240 because he knew exactly how the defense was going to 266 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:29.240 shift and what they're what their principles were. So as 267 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:33.360 super knowledgeable, great obviously talent if you didn't have that. 268 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:35.840 You know, Fitzpatrick was the quarterback when I was there, 269 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:38.440 and he's super cerebral guy. You've see you know, he's 270 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:41.120 on the Thursday night Football deal and he's Harvard, I mean, 271 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:45.039 super smart, but you know he can understand things and 272 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:47.279 and take it to an extent. But there was just 273 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:50.840 another level. There's levels to this, and Brady could just 274 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.639 he could just see the field add another dimension that 275 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:56.159 others couldn't. It was like a matrix to him. He 276 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.320 knew where all the zeros and ones were going, so 277 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:01.080 he could put everything down wherever he needed to. And 278 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:04.440 that's just you know, you couldn't get you couldn't get 279 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:06.639 that out of anybody else. So a lot of his 280 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:10.720 success was predicated off of that. New England Patriot run 281 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:13.879 and tried to duplicate that in Houston. But you know, 282 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:17.039 obviously the Deshaun Watson stuff and it just unraveled and 283 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:21.320 didn't end very well. And I mean that I don't 284 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:23.519 know if he made a great, great in roads with 285 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:27.559 any you know, ownership groups or or anybody else like that. 286 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:28.559 But at the end of the day, if you can 287 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:30.120 win games, and if you can win games of balls 288 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:31.519 and college, I could see him finding his. 289 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:33.879 Way back As soon as you mentioned that. He kind 290 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:36.679 of tried to carry on what he was mostly known 291 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:38.480 for in how things were going in New England, and 292 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:40.679 he tried to do that without you know, the core 293 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:42.919 pieces that made that thing happen. I mean, it makes 294 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:45.480 total sense as to why. But I'm looking here and 295 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:47.159 I went back into a little bit of a deep 296 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:49.440 dive during around the time when you were with the 297 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:52.799 Texans Cup and man, they had a lot of different courts. 298 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:55.320 I mean, for in a two year stretch. These are 299 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:59.120 the quarterbacks that started multiple games. You mentioned Fitzpatrick you 300 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:03.159 started the most, but un mallet case Keenum, Brian Hoyer, TJ. Yaks, 301 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.159 Brandon Wheaton. I mean I mean that, I mean I 302 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:09.240 feel like that. That's a two year stretch there where 303 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:12.440 maybe they played more quarterbacks than anybody has in a 304 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:13.120 two year window. 305 00:13:14.679 --> 00:13:16.960 And the record, I mean we I think nine and 306 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:20.440 seven is first year. But before that, yeah, that was her. 307 00:13:21.960 --> 00:13:24.759 Before that, it was a little tough sled and getting 308 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.240 out of the match job years unfortunately. But yeah, there 309 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:29.919 was a lot of a lot of turbulence, not a 310 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:33.879 lot of consistency, which doesn't doesn't bode well for you know, 311 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:34.919 NFL jobs. 312 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:38.320 You can imagine, no doubt. All right, So when it 313 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:42.080 comes to when it comes to tonight's matchup here, obviously 314 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:44.240 they've got a quarterback who has not actually been that 315 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:46.799 effective with his legs this season, but we know he 316 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:49.159 can because he did it last year against the Louisll 317 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.159 and really made a lot of plays a year ago 318 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:52.840 and kind of made a name for himself in the ACC. 319 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:55.919 That's Castellanos. If you're coming off of by after two 320 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:59.279 straight losses, which this this Boston College team is, and 321 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:02.919 you're looking at Louisville can be vulnerable, I mean, isn't 322 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.000 isn't the you know, stopping the running quarterback like that's 323 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:08.759 got to be something opponents are looking at that they 324 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:10.759 could exploit. And again he hasn't been as effective, but 325 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:12.759 we know he can. Like I wouldn't I wouldn't be 326 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.279 shocked if he has more attempts at running tonight than 327 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:17.279 he's had maybe all year, just because clearly it's something 328 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:18.279 Louis Halls had a tough time with. 329 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:22.440 Yeah, and it's the secondary runs really, I mean about 330 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.720 both QB run and and you know the scramble, the 331 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:30.879 scramble and leading to that secondary not not able to 332 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:34.639 fit you know, off of zone drop and not being 333 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:37.679 able to the key it you know, as a linebacker 334 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:40.080 if you're if you're spying them, which I'm sure we're 335 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:42.120 gonna try and do and when and to be fair 336 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:45.440 to coach Ingles, he has, he has those elements built 337 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:48.080 into the defense. It's just when those guys, when that 338 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:52.080 spy determines that you know, he's thinking that he needs 339 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.120 to go cover the flat when he has a quarterback 340 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:56.159 bearing downhill at him, that's just you got to you 341 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:58.120 gotta have common sense football knowledge. 342 00:14:58.159 --> 00:14:59.080 I need to make this tackle. 343 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.240 If he flips it out there to the running back 344 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.080 that I'm supposed to be you know, covering as well, 345 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:06.639 then that's somebody else's job on this play, so it's 346 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:09.519 very fluid and you have to be able to react 347 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:11.679 and be just you know, football players. You got to 348 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:12.919 be able to make football plays. 349 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:13.480 You know. 350 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.480 The coach can't make every play for you, is what 351 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:18.440 I would tell you, know, fans, I get it. You know, 352 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:21.879 Coach English does need we need we need to have 353 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:24.639 some more variability and not just sit in the same 354 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:26.120 game plan if it's not working. 355 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:27.960 I'm totally on board for that. 356 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.720 But but there's some ownership here on the player's side 357 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:32.960 when it comes to making tackles, when it comes to 358 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:36.559 fitting where you need to and doing your assignment. You know, 359 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:38.360 I'm sure you can turn the film on and see 360 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.759 all kinds of errors galore when it comes to you know, 361 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:43.960 Coach English can't make the tackles for him, you know. 362 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.200 All right, last question for you, Cup, Obviously the game 363 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.360 has changed quite a bit since you played. Anytime I 364 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:52.120 say that, it makes you makes it sound like you're 365 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.519 you're really old. But I'm looking back at the years 366 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:56.120 when you played, and man, you are getting old. I mean, 367 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:57.799 I'm a little older than you, so it's it's it's 368 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.000 you and me both. But I swear that Charlie strong 369 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:02.840 doesn't seem like it was as long ago as it 370 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:06.799 actually was. But when you see guys that are taking 371 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:09.879 advantage of the rules in the new world as far 372 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:11.960 as hey I can, I can stop playing now and 373 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:15.200 you know, essentially quit and get another year and have 374 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:17.320 a chance to make some more money. I mean again, 375 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:19.480 it's it's totally different now. But as a guy who 376 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:21.679 you know, there was no NIL you walked on at 377 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:23.559 u of L before you got a scholarship and made 378 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:26.919 the career for yourself that you did, I mean again, 379 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.720 it's different. It's been a lot of time since you know, 380 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:31.960 you played. But like, I can't imagine there's many guys 381 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:35.600 from your generation that that you know that don't kind 382 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:38.279 of like think that's a weak thing to do for 383 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.279 a player, despite knowing that, Hey, it's guys having ability 384 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:42.799 that you guys didn't have as far as you know, 385 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:45.519 having control more so than you did back in the day. 386 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:48.600 But I think for former players, there's probably a lot 387 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:50.840 of you know, NV saying, hey, man, I wish we'd 388 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:52.879 had some NIL back when I played. But also, you 389 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:55.679 know these guys now, I mean that they they they 390 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:57.759 control everything more so, I mean they used to have 391 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.080 literally no control. You guys couldn't even get jobs in 392 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:02.799 the off season without the NCAA getting on you about 393 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:05.200 making money you're not supposed to be making. And now 394 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:06.559 these guys really run the show. 395 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:13.960 Yeah no, I mean there was I try and because 396 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:15.880 I get asked the question a lot. It's what what 397 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:18.319 would it be like, you know, put yourself your team, 398 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:19.680 like who is some of the players? 399 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:21.279 What would some of the players, would they make a 400 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:24.200 business decision or you know, YadA YadA YadA. 401 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:28.039