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Speaker 2: of well, I was spoiled last year because it was
Speaker 2: nice to have to have some weekday games because it
Speaker 2: gives me a chance to, you know, just sit back
Speaker 2: and observe all the college football going on on a Saturday.
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure, yeah, Louisville last year, I mean
Speaker 2: they won ten of the reg of their season games,
Speaker 2: so none of their losses happen to come on those weeknights,
Speaker 2: so we'll have pregame shows starting here at six thirty,
Speaker 2: so you'll get a thirty minute break for me. I
Speaker 2: do apologies. I'm sure you guys want nothing but just
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Speaker 2: and then as soon as the game ends, it'll be
Speaker 2: a late night tonight, probably gonna be some drunk folks, which,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, as long as you're responsible,
Speaker 2: I'm for it. Drunk phone calls on the postgame show
Speaker 2: can be a lot of fun. Now you can't curse,
Speaker 2: because sometimes people do that too much. Then we got
Speaker 2: to hit the dump button, and then it becomes an
Speaker 2: issue to where like we can't take calls for a
Speaker 2: minute because we got to let the dump button catch
Speaker 2: back up. I'm getting way too deep in the weeds
Speaker 2: when it comes to radio terminology. But you know, have
Speaker 2: fun tonight responsibly. And when I say responsibly, I don't
Speaker 2: mean just you know, with your booze, but like you know,
Speaker 2: you can probably get your point across without dropping f
Speaker 2: bombs and whatnot. But I hope that we will be
Speaker 2: reacting to a Louisville wind, and I believe we will.
Speaker 2: But I'm also to a point where a whole lot
Speaker 2: would really shock me with this Louisville team. Uh, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, all right, Uh, I think I
Speaker 2: made I may have made a mistake here. I've got
Speaker 2: a C four energy drink and I thought this was
Speaker 2: just like a regular energy drink, but this is one
Speaker 2: that's like performance as well, which I mean it's it's
Speaker 2: I think it's like pre workout, so like I'm sitting
Speaker 2: here tingling and like, yeah, I'm kind of tingling here,
Speaker 2: which is which isn't which isn't great for me. But
Speaker 2: at least you know, you can't say I'm not ready
Speaker 2: for the show I've got. I've got pre workout as
Speaker 2: I sit here at an office itching and sweating. But
Speaker 2: you're usually a monster guy, aren't. Oh yeah, this made
Speaker 2: It was in the fridge and I didn't have time
Speaker 2: to stop any years. So that's what I ended up with.
Speaker 2: All right, let's bring him in. He is Alex Kupper,
Speaker 2: former Louts of a Cardinal joins us each and every
Speaker 2: week to talk some Louisville Football Cup. If you heard
Speaker 2: me there, I just I just took a pre workout
Speaker 2: not knowing it. Have you ever done that? If you
Speaker 2: ever taken a pre workout and then like the gym
Speaker 2: was closed or you forgot you had something going on
Speaker 2: and then you're just not working out and you're just
Speaker 2: itching and you know, sweating. That's where I'm at right now.
Speaker 3: How did you not know you were taking it?
Speaker 2: So there's different C fours. Apparently there's C four that
Speaker 2: is Sport Plus Fitness Performance Drink, which I guess is
Speaker 2: like a pre workout drink. I thought it was just
Speaker 2: the Sea four like energy drink, so right, just I
Speaker 2: mean it's it's a very nick coffee type move. Not
Speaker 2: to go a third person, but like you know, people
Speaker 2: hear that story that I just shared and probably think, yeah,
Speaker 2: I could see him doing that. So I learned the
Speaker 2: hard way when it comes to uh, to a lot
Speaker 2: of things. But you know, if anything, I'm ready, you know,
Speaker 2: if there's any if I need to drop, if I
Speaker 2: need to go, yeah, I mean, if they need me,
Speaker 2: I'll take a flight to Boston. And if they need
Speaker 2: me out there. I don't know how long this thing
Speaker 2: is gonna last as far as me being ready, but
Speaker 2: you know, anything to help the cards, and they won't.
Speaker 2: I hope they don't need my help tonight. But this
Speaker 2: is this is clearly not an easy If there was
Speaker 2: an easy way to just for teams to figure out
Speaker 2: how they can clean things up, put it all together,
Speaker 2: avoid sloppy play, avoid mistakes that that are avoidable. If
Speaker 2: that was easy to do, that nobody would make mistakes.
Speaker 2: But from your your perspective, your experience is a guy
Speaker 2: who played the game at the highest level here at
Speaker 2: Louisville and also in the NFL, when you see teams
Speaker 2: that do, in fact have a habit of making mistakes
Speaker 2: that you just feel like are really crucial. Nobody's asking
Speaker 2: anybody to be perfect. That's not realistic. But what do
Speaker 2: you feel like is usually the root cause of teams
Speaker 2: that just have a tough time seven games in really
Speaker 2: putting it all together, putting together a complete game.
Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, if if
Speaker 4: stuff doesn't go your way, and you you know you are,
Speaker 4: you do everything right, you feel like you're you know
Speaker 4: you're you're putting in the work you need you you, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's only it's only resulting in and bad results. You
Speaker 4: kind of you can you can be a little disheartened
Speaker 4: if you if you don't trust, you know, in yourself,
Speaker 4: don't trust in your team. You can see you can
Speaker 4: see the cracks develop, you know, unfortunately, and and you know,
Speaker 4: you have to have belief, you know, that's the biggest
Speaker 4: thing when you're playing football. You got to believe that
Speaker 4: what you're doing is the right stuff. You're being coached
Speaker 4: the right way, you're being led by the leadership of
Speaker 4: your team the right way. And if you have those things,
Speaker 4: you can get out of these ruts that they're in.
Speaker 4: And you just I mean, when it comes to playing
Speaker 4: really good teams, if you doubt yourself one second, one play,
Speaker 4: that's the crack that they're going to need, you know,
Speaker 4: to pick up a third and twenty two and when
Speaker 4: you should have got off the field, you know, and
Speaker 4: there's countless examples in that game where it's like, God, why,
Speaker 4: you know, why couldn't we make this happen? So you
Speaker 4: start to doubt yourself and you i mean, a football
Speaker 4: team like this on the ropes, So you cannot let
Speaker 4: that slipper in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you mentioned starting to doubt yourself whenever these
Speaker 2: mistakes become sort of a regular thing, And I think
Speaker 2: you know, to be honest with you, like I think tonight,
Speaker 2: you know, and again, players, I'm sure aren't worried about
Speaker 2: tonight what fans think. I mean, I'm sure they appreciate
Speaker 2: the fans, but they're focused on the task at hand,
Speaker 2: their assignment, all that stuff that you hear coaches mentioned.
Speaker 2: But I do think for this group, they know that
Speaker 2: they've not put together a complete game, they haven't put
Speaker 2: it all together, and they've really had to look in
Speaker 2: the mirror when it comes to at least two of
Speaker 2: these losses. I mean, you always have to look in
Speaker 2: the mirror when you lose a game and know that
Speaker 2: you could have played better. But you know, the SMU game,
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame game, it just felt like there were
Speaker 2: some things you could have easily avoided that would have
Speaker 2: potentially given you a different outcome. I think tonight, what's
Speaker 2: really on the line for this group specifically, And obviously
Speaker 2: they want to win every game. The next game is
Speaker 2: always the most important game. There's a reason those cliches exist.
Speaker 2: But I feel like if they do play well, and
Speaker 2: not asking them to blow Boston College out, but if
Speaker 2: they play well and you look back and say, Okay,
Speaker 2: they really tighten things up. I feel like that can
Speaker 2: go a long way for these guys specifically, from like
Speaker 2: a mental perspective, it could be the confirmation that hey,
Speaker 2: we know we got some good dudes, we know we've
Speaker 2: got ability, but the one thing we haven't done is
Speaker 2: put it all together. Even though it's going to be
Speaker 2: against the team that most people assume that you're better
Speaker 2: than I think tonight, if they do put it all together,
Speaker 2: not to say that I think that that means they're
Speaker 2: going to win every game the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: But I feel like for these guys internally, it could
Speaker 2: really really help.
Speaker 4: Them absolutely and prove that you can and again once
Speaker 4: again go on the road and win a conference game.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what you're gonna have to do.
Speaker 4: You have to go on the if you're gonna make
Speaker 4: something this season, it's got to be done on the
Speaker 4: road every every you know, I know Pittsburgh is at home,
Speaker 4: but clearly, I mean this team it feels a lot
Speaker 4: like you know, coach Stronk's first year twenty ten we
Speaker 4: had a much better I got.
Speaker 3: I think we're like we won four.
Speaker 4: Games, four of our six or seven games on on
Speaker 4: the road. You know, we would we would always just
Speaker 4: end up laying eggs at home and just couldn't get
Speaker 4: it done at home when we had like the the
Speaker 4: emotion and the energy of the fan base back on
Speaker 4: our side and which which this team had last week, and.
Speaker 3: It still didn't didn't really do it much.
Speaker 4: So hopefully it is that bunker mentality. You know, you're
Speaker 4: you're on the road, it's you're you, you're all, you
Speaker 4: got the traveling parties, all you got a specially up
Speaker 4: in Boston. You're not gonna bring anybody up there. Lock
Speaker 4: in focus, do your job, believe that you can do
Speaker 4: your job to the best of your ability, and go
Speaker 4: out and get a win.
Speaker 2: Now, am I wrong? Here? Did you did you play
Speaker 2: for Bill O'Brien with the tech since did he get
Speaker 2: there right after you?
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right? Nope, nope, nope, you're right.
Speaker 2: You're so tell me tell us that he's he's pretty
Speaker 2: well respected. It seems like as far as a guy
Speaker 2: that you know, I mean, I mean, he's proven to
Speaker 2: be a pretty good coach, but Obviously, him taking the
Speaker 2: Boston College job seemed like a little bit of a
Speaker 2: surprise to a lot of people, just because it's not
Speaker 2: viewed as a great job. But he's got some Boston connections,
Speaker 2: his family's up there. But you know, how how good
Speaker 2: can Boston College be in this new world with a
Speaker 2: guy that is a really good coach and and and
Speaker 2: you know has proven that over time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he is a hard He's a hard nosed,
Speaker 4: old school kind of guy. I mean, he's he he
Speaker 4: understands the changes in the landscape and gets all that thing,
Speaker 4: gets all you know.
Speaker 2: The.
Speaker 4: Complexities of college football. So he you know, he's been
Speaker 4: back in it long enough, being at Alabama and everything.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he's he is a very knowledge He knows
Speaker 4: the game really well. I could say, I would say
Speaker 4: he could be stubborn at times, obviously seeing that you know,
Speaker 4: there's you know, you get stuck in your ways and
Speaker 4: you you know, if that way is not going right.
Speaker 3: You know, so if we if we can catch.
Speaker 4: A beat on them and beat them at their you
Speaker 4: know what they're trying to do.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's gonna try and stick to.
Speaker 4: And believe that his game plan was better than what
Speaker 4: coach Browman and the defense and offense.
Speaker 3: Had laid out.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I would say the biggest thing we got
Speaker 4: to do is to start fast, start fast and make
Speaker 4: plays because they're you know, they're gonna they're gonna keep
Speaker 4: coming at you. They're always going to be hungry. He's
Speaker 4: never gonna let them quit. So that's you know, it's
Speaker 4: a four quarterball game. It's a really hit his his
Speaker 4: uh speech in mantras is a lot like coach Broms.
Speaker 2: Really, I mean, I I think that. I mean again,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of football to be played, and I
Speaker 2: wouldn't lie to you and say that I think Boston
Speaker 2: College is a great team. But I think there at
Speaker 2: times this year they've not only overperformed with how they've
Speaker 2: beat teams, but you know, they play hard like you could.
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, they they looked like a team
Speaker 2: that is a reflection of that guy on the sideline
Speaker 2: when I watched him a couple of time earlier this year.
Speaker 2: Are you surprised at all? And again, it's tough to
Speaker 2: get an NFL gig, but he had a winning record
Speaker 2: as as as a head coach in the NFL, and
Speaker 2: he coached many years, had many winning seasons, and he
Speaker 2: went oh and four before being fired in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: So before that he was eight games above five hundred,
Speaker 2: which isn't you know, it's not like he's winning playoff
Speaker 2: games or anything like that. But usually if guys can
Speaker 2: consistently win, which he did other than you know, one
Speaker 2: real outlier season where they were bad, usually those guys
Speaker 2: that are reachreads, they get opportunities. Are you surprised he's
Speaker 2: he's not landed back in the NFL?
Speaker 3: You know it get he gets I mean the rap
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 4: It is very you know, there's a lot of times
Speaker 4: you would sit there and think it's like, okay, this
Speaker 4: this all this mantra and this you know, it's the
Speaker 4: parcels Belichick kind of our aura where it's like, if
Speaker 4: you don't have Tom Brady, this is this is gonna
Speaker 4: be a hard thing to you know, it's kind of
Speaker 4: be a hard thing to duplicate and and see could
Speaker 4: actually yeah, oh my god, so many times I've thought
Speaker 4: are with think that, like, you know, this this is
Speaker 4: a really good offense if you have a quarterback under center,
Speaker 4: that it can get you in the right play when
Speaker 4: you're in a bad play. I mean that's essentially what
Speaker 4: Tom Brady did for all those years was I mean
Speaker 4: they they very rarely ran a play where it was
Speaker 4: into a pressure that they couldn't block, or a run,
Speaker 4: a run that wasn't you know, dialed up exactly right,
Speaker 4: because he knew exactly how the defense was going to
Speaker 4: shift and what they're what their principles were. So as
Speaker 4: super knowledgeable, great obviously talent if you didn't have that.
Speaker 4: You know, Fitzpatrick was the quarterback when I was there,
Speaker 4: and he's super cerebral guy. You've see you know, he's
Speaker 4: on the Thursday night Football deal and he's Harvard, I mean,
Speaker 4: super smart, but you know he can understand things and
Speaker 4: and take it to an extent. But there was just
Speaker 4: another level. There's levels to this, and Brady could just
Speaker 4: he could just see the field add another dimension that
Speaker 4: others couldn't. It was like a matrix to him. He
Speaker 4: knew where all the zeros and ones were going, so
Speaker 4: he could put everything down wherever he needed to. And
Speaker 4: that's just you know, you couldn't get you couldn't get
Speaker 4: that out of anybody else. So a lot of his
Speaker 4: success was predicated off of that. New England Patriot run
Speaker 4: and tried to duplicate that in Houston. But you know,
Speaker 4: obviously the Deshaun Watson stuff and it just unraveled and
Speaker 4: didn't end very well. And I mean that I don't
Speaker 4: know if he made a great, great in roads with
Speaker 4: any you know, ownership groups or or anybody else like that.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, if you can
Speaker 4: win games, and if you can win games of balls
Speaker 4: and college, I could see him finding his.
Speaker 2: Way back As soon as you mentioned that. He kind
Speaker 2: of tried to carry on what he was mostly known
Speaker 2: for in how things were going in New England, and
Speaker 2: he tried to do that without you know, the core
Speaker 2: pieces that made that thing happen. I mean, it makes
Speaker 2: total sense as to why. But I'm looking here and
Speaker 2: I went back into a little bit of a deep
Speaker 2: dive during around the time when you were with the
Speaker 2: Texans Cup and man, they had a lot of different courts.
Speaker 2: I mean, for in a two year stretch. These are
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks that started multiple games. You mentioned Fitzpatrick you
Speaker 2: started the most, but un mallet case Keenum, Brian Hoyer, TJ. Yaks,
Speaker 2: Brandon Wheaton. I mean I mean that, I mean I
Speaker 2: feel like that. That's a two year stretch there where
Speaker 2: maybe they played more quarterbacks than anybody has in a
Speaker 2: two year window.
Speaker 4: And the record, I mean we I think nine and
Speaker 4: seven is first year. But before that, yeah, that was her.
Speaker 4: Before that, it was a little tough sled and getting
Speaker 4: out of the match job years unfortunately. But yeah, there
Speaker 4: was a lot of a lot of turbulence, not a
Speaker 4: lot of consistency, which doesn't doesn't bode well for you know,
Speaker 4: NFL jobs.
Speaker 2: You can imagine, no doubt. All right, So when it
Speaker 2: comes to when it comes to tonight's matchup here, obviously
Speaker 2: they've got a quarterback who has not actually been that
Speaker 2: effective with his legs this season, but we know he
Speaker 2: can because he did it last year against the Louisll
Speaker 2: and really made a lot of plays a year ago
Speaker 2: and kind of made a name for himself in the ACC.
Speaker 2: That's Castellanos. If you're coming off of by after two
Speaker 2: straight losses, which this this Boston College team is, and
Speaker 2: you're looking at Louisville can be vulnerable, I mean, isn't
Speaker 2: isn't the you know, stopping the running quarterback like that's
Speaker 2: got to be something opponents are looking at that they
Speaker 2: could exploit. And again he hasn't been as effective, but
Speaker 2: we know he can. Like I wouldn't I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: shocked if he has more attempts at running tonight than
Speaker 2: he's had maybe all year, just because clearly it's something
Speaker 2: Louis Halls had a tough time with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's the secondary runs really, I mean about
Speaker 4: both QB run and and you know the scramble, the
Speaker 4: scramble and leading to that secondary not not able to
Speaker 4: fit you know, off of zone drop and not being
Speaker 4: able to the key it you know, as a linebacker
Speaker 4: if you're if you're spying them, which I'm sure we're
Speaker 4: gonna try and do and when and to be fair
Speaker 4: to coach Ingles, he has, he has those elements built
Speaker 4: into the defense. It's just when those guys, when that
Speaker 4: spy determines that you know, he's thinking that he needs
Speaker 4: to go cover the flat when he has a quarterback
Speaker 4: bearing downhill at him, that's just you got to you
Speaker 4: gotta have common sense football knowledge.
Speaker 3: I need to make this tackle.
Speaker 4: If he flips it out there to the running back
Speaker 4: that I'm supposed to be you know, covering as well,
Speaker 4: then that's somebody else's job on this play, so it's
Speaker 4: very fluid and you have to be able to react
Speaker 4: and be just you know, football players. You got to
Speaker 4: be able to make football plays.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: The coach can't make every play for you, is what
Speaker 4: I would tell you, know, fans, I get it. You know,
Speaker 4: Coach English does need we need we need to have
Speaker 4: some more variability and not just sit in the same
Speaker 4: game plan if it's not working.
Speaker 3: I'm totally on board for that.
Speaker 4: But but there's some ownership here on the player's side
Speaker 4: when it comes to making tackles, when it comes to
Speaker 4: fitting where you need to and doing your assignment. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm sure you can turn the film on and see
Speaker 4: all kinds of errors galore when it comes to you know,
Speaker 4: Coach English can't make the tackles for him, you know.
Speaker 2: All right, last question for you, Cup, Obviously the game
Speaker 2: has changed quite a bit since you played. Anytime I
Speaker 2: say that, it makes you makes it sound like you're
Speaker 2: you're really old. But I'm looking back at the years
Speaker 2: when you played, and man, you are getting old. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm a little older than you, so it's it's it's
Speaker 2: you and me both. But I swear that Charlie strong
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like it was as long ago as it
Speaker 2: actually was. But when you see guys that are taking
Speaker 2: advantage of the rules in the new world as far
Speaker 2: as hey I can, I can stop playing now and
Speaker 2: you know, essentially quit and get another year and have
Speaker 2: a chance to make some more money. I mean again,
Speaker 2: it's it's totally different now. But as a guy who
Speaker 2: you know, there was no NIL you walked on at
Speaker 2: u of L before you got a scholarship and made
Speaker 2: the career for yourself that you did, I mean again,
Speaker 2: it's different. It's been a lot of time since you know,
Speaker 2: you played. But like, I can't imagine there's many guys
Speaker 2: from your generation that that you know that don't kind
Speaker 2: of like think that's a weak thing to do for
Speaker 2: a player, despite knowing that, Hey, it's guys having ability
Speaker 2: that you guys didn't have as far as you know,
Speaker 2: having control more so than you did back in the day.
Speaker 2: But I think for former players, there's probably a lot
Speaker 2: of you know, NV saying, hey, man, I wish we'd
Speaker 2: had some NIL back when I played. But also, you
Speaker 2: know these guys now, I mean that they they they
Speaker 2: control everything more so, I mean they used to have
Speaker 2: literally no control. You guys couldn't even get jobs in
Speaker 2: the off season without the NCAA getting on you about
Speaker 2: making money you're not supposed to be making. And now
Speaker 2: these guys really run the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I mean there was I try and because
Speaker 4: I get asked the question a lot. It's what what
Speaker 4: would it be like, you know, put yourself your team,
Speaker 4: like who is some of the players?
Speaker 3: What would some of the players, would they make a
Speaker 3: business decision or you know, YadA YadA YadA.
Speaker 4: Thankfully are our uh senior year. You know, we had
Speaker 4: some to play for and we were we were down
Speaker 4: to you know, it came down of the last game,
Speaker 4: but we want you know, it started nine to zero.
Speaker 4: We had everything rolling, So I don't think we would
Speaker 4: have had an issue with that. I think everybody would
Speaker 4: have been bought in. Would they be looking forward because
Speaker 4: a lot of that talent was really young and they
Speaker 4: were like, hey that now you know, Now I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go earn Now I'm gonna go get that get that money.
Speaker 4: I guess you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: it's it's uh, it's a another layer of professional sports,
Speaker 4: like a minor minor league essentially, and with players Colin Lace,
Speaker 4: I mean the greater, I mean a really good player.
Speaker 4: I mean we need him, obviously, he would love to
Speaker 4: have him. But I mean when it comes to you know,
Speaker 4: seeing seeing how he plays and and at you know,
Speaker 4: his primary position or receiver, it's like there's not all
Speaker 4: he didn't get a whole lot of separation. Like you
Speaker 4: can tell you can just see from a speed and
Speaker 4: physicality standpoint, what like an NFL type player is. And
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that, you know, the Colin Ac.
Speaker 3: Is there, So I guess I mean I'm assuming that
Speaker 3: it's trying to to utilize you know.
Speaker 4: The little film that he has and then you know,
Speaker 4: some good big plays that he's going to go negotiate
Speaker 4: for money somewhere else next year would be my guess. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean it's really there's going to be a really
Speaker 4: weird drag on you know, role role player kind of
Speaker 4: positions in the NFL versus you know, key contributors in
Speaker 4: college and how long those you know, those kids will
Speaker 4: just stick around and gut it out.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's it is guaranteed you're going to have
Speaker 3: fiftiar guys like and at.
Speaker 4: That level if they've played a couple of years somewhere
Speaker 4: they'll bounce and then whenever they can see that they
Speaker 4: have another year to earn before testing the waters and
Speaker 4: then seeing what happens in the NFL.
Speaker 3: That's that's this is what's.
Speaker 1: Going to happen.
Speaker 3: It's just is what it is, and.
Speaker 4: You hate it because it's I mean, everything you preach
Speaker 4: and everything I've always talked about on the show when
Speaker 4: it comes to, you know, having pride in yourself, having
Speaker 4: pride in your team, and really believing and having that
Speaker 4: that you know, camaraderie is a team and we're all
Speaker 4: in it together.
Speaker 3: That just got with with.
Speaker 4: Decisions like this business decisions. You can't really coleheartedly say that.
Speaker 4: So that's what makes you know, professional sports different than
Speaker 4: in the collegiate the collegiate environment because you really can't
Speaker 4: say that people are out and out for themselves and
Speaker 4: even on Super Bowl runs, people are thinking about, Okay,
Speaker 4: how am I gonna you know, how am I going
Speaker 4: to equate this and more money for myself? And that's
Speaker 4: just that's from sports and a nutshell yeah.
Speaker 2: And a lot of the things that I think people
Speaker 2: got really for generations what made college sports really appealing
Speaker 2: and dare I say wholesome to people?
Speaker 3: Is now?
Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm not sure how how wholesome it
Speaker 2: ever really was, but now it's directly in your face
Speaker 2: every day as a big time college sports fan that
Speaker 2: this is in fact just a different layer of professional sports.
Speaker 2: And you know, again, I don't know how much a
Speaker 2: lot of these guys out there really did. You don't
Speaker 2: play for the name on the front. I'm sure many did,
Speaker 2: including yourself, but you know, now it's just directly in
Speaker 2: your face that it's really just transactional. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: I see if the player's perspective as far as taking
Speaker 2: advantage of what they're able to do. But I totally
Speaker 2: also understand my fans are like, what the hell? This
Speaker 2: is not what I'm this is. This is the worst
Speaker 2: guys just deciding they don't want to play. So it
Speaker 2: is a new world, no doubt. Because as always I
Speaker 2: appreciate you making time for us. Enjoy the game this evening,
Speaker 2: enjoy your weekend, and let's go Cards.
Speaker 3: Let's go Cards.
Speaker 2: Take care of brother. It's Alex Cupp former Louis vic Cardinal.
Speaker 2: Always appreciate his insight, good stuff there. I knew he
Speaker 2: was you know, I tell Cup all the time. If
Speaker 2: I played in the NFL for a day, I would
Speaker 2: let anybody I would meet, I would tell he just
Speaker 2: you know, former NFL player. Cup played in the NFL
Speaker 2: and made the fifty three man roster I think for
Speaker 2: three straight seasons, twice with Houston and then once with Buffalo,
Speaker 2: and like you know, you never know, he's humble, but yeah,
Speaker 2: he did play for for Bill O'Brien, who's gonna be
Speaker 2: on the opposing sideline tonight for Boston College. All right,
Speaker 2: quick break, we'll come back on the other side Alex R.
Speaker 2: White himself as we're broadcasting live from his offices here.
Speaker 2: He's gonna join us and we'll talk about a cool
Speaker 2: event that he is a part of Rad Revival which
Speaker 2: is coming up. And then also he's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 2: depose me, which I'm a little nervous for, but hopefully,
Speaker 2: hopefully I'll come through. All Right, it's Coffee and Company
Speaker 2: again coming to you live from the offices of Alex R.
Speaker 2: White Lawyers, Suit Distracted Driver dot Com. We're about halfway through.
Speaker 2: To stick with us as we get you set for
Speaker 2: the weekend again, Coffee and Company. Feel about Thornton's right
Speaker 2: here on Sports Talk seven to ninety suit Distracted Driver
Speaker 2: dot com and we are now joined by the one
Speaker 2: and only Alex R. White as well as Eric Benson.
Speaker 2: And we're here to talk about a lot of things.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna get am I gonna get deposed? Is
Speaker 2: that happening today? Alex?
Speaker 5: Yeah? You know this is my conference room, so glad
Speaker 5: you're in here.
Speaker 6: Normally, when I'm in here, I'm either taking someone's deposition
Speaker 6: or settling their case, and you don't have a case
Speaker 6: with this yet, so I thought we would just go
Speaker 6: ahead and do the deposition here.
Speaker 2: So I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 5: I hope.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'll be able to pull through,
Speaker 2: but this will be a first time for me and
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see how it goes. But before we
Speaker 2: do get into that, you guys are are a part
Speaker 2: of some really cool events that take place here in
Speaker 2: the Kentucky and area, and one of them is coming
Speaker 2: up and it is the rad Revival and website, by
Speaker 2: the way, looks phenomenal. If you guys haven't checked that out,
Speaker 2: it's rad Revivalfest dot com. You were giving me some
Speaker 2: information during the break and we had talked a little
Speaker 2: bit about it beforehand. But if you guys, it's awesome
Speaker 2: to see all these phenomenal cars here that get set up,
Speaker 2: but also the cause and what you guys do to
Speaker 2: give back to to adults starting their life out of
Speaker 2: foster care, they don't have a vehicle. You guys raise
Speaker 2: money and help them get a vehicle to kind of
Speaker 2: start through adulthood. So how did this all come together?
Speaker 2: What was the real inspiration to say, Hey, this is
Speaker 2: something we want to do, we want to help people,
Speaker 2: and obviously there's many many people that could certainly benefit
Speaker 2: from this, sure.
Speaker 5: So that's why I brought Eric along.
Speaker 6: We met a few years ago through basically the car community,
Speaker 6: and Eric had some events called Cars in the Comments
Speaker 6: Norton Commas, and through our friendship the last few years,
Speaker 6: you may have noticed my friend's been sponsoring you know,
Speaker 6: things I think are cool locally, and Cars in the
Speaker 6: Commons certainly were Your brand is very visible within the
Speaker 6: Kentucky and area for sure, and Eric got this idea
Speaker 6: last year to have an eighties and nineties block party
Speaker 6: that was half car show, half just celebration of you
Speaker 6: know what.
Speaker 5: I would say, two are the best decades.
Speaker 2: Totally agree. We're on the same page there.
Speaker 6: And it was a great, great event. So then last year,
Speaker 6: you know, we've had some success with these car shows.
Speaker 6: We made some really good connections. We've we've made some
Speaker 6: friends with some local car shops and audio shops, et cetera.
Speaker 5: It's just it's just such a cool community. So I
Speaker 5: got a call. I was asked if I could kind
Speaker 5: of take the lead on this, and I said, I know,
Speaker 5: who can? I called Eric. I said, all right, here's
Speaker 5: the situation.
Speaker 6: We've got foster kids that need cars, that are aging
Speaker 6: out of care, and we're going to help them.
Speaker 5: So let's get started.
Speaker 6: We'll use our car shows as kind of you know
Speaker 6: what you've built with these as kind of a platform
Speaker 6: for some good change. And let's try to give one
Speaker 6: car away in twenty twenty four and just you know,
Speaker 6: see we're at but I think people will chip in
Speaker 6: and so excited to tell everyone that at rad Revival Saturday,
Speaker 6: we're giving away car three and four of the year.
Speaker 5: We've got a ton of great partners.
Speaker 6: The nonprofit we started is called the First Car Project,
Speaker 6: So if you go to any of our events, you'll
Speaker 6: see the First car project there.
Speaker 5: And it's been awesome. I'm just working with Eric has
Speaker 5: been fantastic.
Speaker 6: Our other board members are great, the shops that have
Speaker 6: chipped in free labor, free parts. Sometimes we've got national
Speaker 6: brands involved giving money for parts, giving money for insurance.
Speaker 6: We give six months free insurance to these kids because
Speaker 6: I mean it's expensive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes a long way, but it's tough.
Speaker 6: To buy insurance right now, especially when you're eighteen nineteen
Speaker 6: years old. So it's it's taken something that we have
Speaker 6: a lot of fun with with the cars and these
Speaker 6: shows that Eric's basically invented from scratch, and then it's
Speaker 6: given us a piece where we can like literally affect
Speaker 6: change an individual basis, and I just I love.
Speaker 5: It, really really glad to be proud of it. And
Speaker 5: that's why that's why Eric's here today.
Speaker 2: So, Eric, when it comes to the help you guys
Speaker 2: have got from people who work on cars mechanics, you
Speaker 2: mentioned just the different partners, is it a no brainer
Speaker 2: for them when you tell them the cause and what
Speaker 2: you guys are trying to do, because that obviously helping
Speaker 2: people in need is got to be something that's fulfilling
Speaker 2: for everybody.
Speaker 3: That does it.
Speaker 2: But to see everybody else maybe you know, maybe there's
Speaker 2: some hesitation, but that you've been able to get so
Speaker 2: many different people from different different businesses, different different spaces too,
Speaker 2: to say, yeah, I like what you guys are doing,
Speaker 2: this is awesome. I want to help out. Like that's
Speaker 2: that's got to just be the cherry on top as
Speaker 2: far as collectively having people work towards this cause that
Speaker 2: you guys put in place.
Speaker 7: That's that's spot on. You know, without them, it doesn't
Speaker 7: work right. And so what we figured out early on
Speaker 7: was the cost of insurance is insane. When I when
Speaker 7: I say that I'll share with people, it's you know,
Speaker 7: we're talking about vehicles that are ten and fifteen years old,
Speaker 7: and they can be two and three thousand dollars every
Speaker 7: six months. And so that was just really eye opening.
Speaker 5: So what we did is we.
Speaker 7: Discovered we have to have a little bit older car
Speaker 7: a little bit cheaper insurance. And what we would do
Speaker 7: is we would take that car around to each of
Speaker 7: our Passion partners and you know, get that thing serviced
Speaker 7: and ready to you know, ready to rock and hit
Speaker 7: the road. So it's been it's been a lot of fun,
Speaker 7: it's been it's been a lot of work, but at
Speaker 7: the same time, it's incredibly rewarding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can. I can certainly imagine. So I would
Speaker 2: assume both you guys have been car guys. Your whole
Speaker 2: life has been a passion and a hobby and an
Speaker 2: interest from a young age. I guess, oh yeah, so
Speaker 2: because I've seen I've seen the collection at your events
Speaker 2: and obviously some stuff that you've shared, and it's it's
Speaker 2: pretty bad. It has to be honest with you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like to say my dad brought home a
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty Corvette when I was four years old, and
Speaker 6: I've been a car guy ever since.
Speaker 2: That'll do it.
Speaker 6: And I've always said, like, my favorite car is the
Speaker 6: is the Corvette. And at some point I want to
Speaker 6: have a nineteen eighty Corvette like my dad. And I
Speaker 6: mean I was probably ten years old saying.
Speaker 2: That that was the dream car.
Speaker 6: That was the dream car. So I recently bought one.
Speaker 6: I've had some conversations with my dad about it. And
Speaker 6: what's really funny is, you know, he had several cars
Speaker 6: growing up. You know, he's kind of addicted to cars.
Speaker 6: He was a car guy, So there was something else
Speaker 6: in the driveway other six to twelve months, I've been
Speaker 6: the same way. But I get this nineteen eighty Corvette.
Speaker 5: I'm so excited. I can't wait to tell my dad
Speaker 5: and I mean it's it's the Pinnacle for me, Like
Speaker 5: this is this is the car the one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he says, man, I never liked that car,
Speaker 2: did he really was? He messed with your just and
Speaker 2: you never knew that.
Speaker 5: He said that car was so slow. He said that
Speaker 5: car wouldn't fall out a.
Speaker 2: Tree fast, my goodness. And that's a punch to the gun.
Speaker 5: The car it needed a lot of work, and mine's
Speaker 5: had a lot of work. But it's it's a daily drivers.
Speaker 6: It's rounding third on being a daily driver and being
Speaker 6: you know, safe on the street hopefully, and it's it's cool,
Speaker 6: but you know it, you know, it's kind of like
Speaker 6: a no to my dad for me, of course, Yeah,
Speaker 6: very centimentdle bitch is so funny because it was not
Speaker 6: his favorite car and.
Speaker 2: You learned that after you again, it was the Pinnacle.
Speaker 2: What about you, Eric, what was what was the dream
Speaker 2: car for you as far as one that you you know,
Speaker 2: hope to eventually have and maybe you do have now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I moved here to Oldham County years ago,
Speaker 7: and uh, there wasn't many people out there like today,
Speaker 7: but there was a few folks that had a few bucks,
Speaker 7: and they always drove their Porschos down, you know, through
Speaker 7: the countryside, and I always just thought that was really cool.
Speaker 7: And so, uh, that's what I, you know, first bought
Speaker 7: when I could, was a nine to eleven. And so
Speaker 7: I enjoy that. But I also got to be honest,
Speaker 7: I enjoy the cars that I drove in high school
Speaker 7: just as much, the Volkswagens and all of those things.
Speaker 7: And and candidly, that's, you know, to bring it back
Speaker 7: to the car show, that's why I wanted to do
Speaker 7: what I did, and that is I love eighties music.
Speaker 7: I love nineties music. If you can hear my voice
Speaker 7: right now, you'll want to be there tomorrow night if
Speaker 7: you like either of those two things. And then sprinkling
Speaker 7: eighties and nineties cars in at you know, almost a
Speaker 7: couple hundred of them, we're gonna have a blast. And
Speaker 7: then the cherry on top is of course, mister Matt Hoffman,
Speaker 7: and so we're gonna have the Condor, the BMX King
Speaker 7: come into say hi, to everybody, So we're super fired up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be. It should be a lot of
Speaker 2: fun for you guys. And I'm just curious. I feel
Speaker 2: like those who are very much into cars, it's their passion.
Speaker 2: They they buy, restore and collect if they're if they're
Speaker 2: financially in a position to do that, do you guys
Speaker 2: bring in people from like all over that want to
Speaker 2: show off the I mean what they have. I mean,
Speaker 2: I would. I I've seen some pictures of the events,
Speaker 2: and I've seen some cars that I mean mean doesn't
Speaker 2: mean they're not local, but I know I haven't seen
Speaker 2: them out on the road.
Speaker 7: So that's a great question. So what's interesting is that
Speaker 7: the Summertime show, which is Cars in the Commonwealth this year, everybody,
Speaker 7: and we'll be held in Hermitage Farms. So change, Yeah,
Speaker 7: super excited to a today and hey, what better time
Speaker 7: than a pregame show, That's right, So we're excited about that.
Speaker 7: And then and then of course this uh, this eighties
Speaker 7: nineties jam is is really all about the fun and
Speaker 7: and we're gonna try to have a good time.
Speaker 2: Smid all right, So when you say eighties nineties, I
Speaker 2: was born in eighty eight, so I don't remember the eighties,
Speaker 2: but there's a weird and there's a there's a it's
Speaker 2: called something that I can't think of nostalgia, but you've
Speaker 2: never actually experienced it, you know what? It makes sense
Speaker 2: Like I see stuff in the eighties that I didn't
Speaker 2: live through, but I feel like, oh, man, I wish
Speaker 2: life was still like that. So I love the eighties.
Speaker 2: I was. My childhood is the nineties. When you think
Speaker 2: of your your cars in the eighties nineties, which ones
Speaker 2: are your alls? Like that that stands out when you think,
Speaker 2: like when you go back in time and you think, man,
Speaker 2: this car was the coolest car on the street. I
Speaker 2: wanted one, other people had one. It was the dream car?
Speaker 2: Which ones come to mind for you guys.
Speaker 6: So I was born in eighties seven, right with you,
Speaker 6: And I remember the eighties mostly because you know, my
Speaker 6: sister's toy collection and all the games and stuff we had,
Speaker 6: you know, growing up, or the eighties stuff.
Speaker 5: I remember seeing a lot of that.
Speaker 6: But to your question, in the car, my best friend's
Speaker 6: older brother had a Nissan three hundred ZX. It's like
Speaker 6: a ninety one ninety two. That body style I think
Speaker 6: is iconic still looks awesome. Still looks modern and I
Speaker 6: love that car and we were I mean we were
Speaker 6: nine ten years old on our bikes and he's washing
Speaker 6: it out front. I just remember how cool he was
Speaker 6: washing that old Nissan three hundred ZX.
Speaker 2: And you're certainly right about how they they've maintained a
Speaker 2: modern look to where like you'll see when now and
Speaker 2: I think younger folks wouldn't believe how old that car
Speaker 2: actually is. That's a good one. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 2: talking cars with you a little bit later because I
Speaker 2: had to do a little bit of a I had
Speaker 2: to look back in cars from from the eighties and
Speaker 2: nineties to try to remember which one stood out for me.
Speaker 2: But there was a few that I'd forgotten all about
Speaker 2: that I don't see on the road anymore. And it
Speaker 2: speaks to because it's it's been so long since, you know,
Speaker 2: since we were in that era. But I would imagine
Speaker 2: that the you know, eighties, nineties like that. I feel
Speaker 2: like there's so many people that like if something is
Speaker 2: themed in those and I mean like it's it's popular
Speaker 2: among a lot of people, mostly people closer to our age.
Speaker 2: But like I would imagine, you guys get a pretty
Speaker 2: good response for folks that don't even that obviously want
Speaker 2: to support your cause, but like they want to party too,
Speaker 2: and if it's eighties nineties themes, that's gonna be you know,
Speaker 2: best case scenario for him.
Speaker 5: Here's the bad news.
Speaker 6: Okay, we are we're getting to the age where eighties
Speaker 6: and nineties is like a party theme.
Speaker 5: Or before it was just like that was just started.
Speaker 5: It was a few years ago. It was literally just
Speaker 5: in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so yeah, I mean I remember growing up there's
Speaker 6: like seventies parties and stuff as a little kid, like.
Speaker 5: Mom, do you have anything I can wear?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that too, And now.
Speaker 5: It's like, man, it's definitely time for a kildosophy. Yeah,
Speaker 5: my back is killing me.
Speaker 7: Our kids listen to it now, right, I mean my
Speaker 7: high schooler and my college they're they're listening to you.
Speaker 5: Know, eighties and nineties.
Speaker 2: So that makes me feel good because I think everybody
Speaker 2: thinks that their era, their generation was like the best,
Speaker 2: but they're wrong. If it's not eighties nineties, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's just it's.
Speaker 5: Just the fact you can google that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all on the same page there, all right,
Speaker 2: So let's do this. We'll take a quick break here
Speaker 2: and then I guess we'll come back and if you
Speaker 2: have time, Alex, I'll be deposed.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I've got some hard hitting questions.
Speaker 2: I am looking forward to that. So again we're hanging
Speaker 2: out here live at the offices of Alex our White
Speaker 2: lawyers who distracted driver dot Com. Alex White with us
Speaker 2: also Eric Benson. They've got their big event coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 2: You guys heard them talk about rad Revival and really
Speaker 2: the cause. I mean, it's a lot of fun, but
Speaker 2: I obviously they help out folks in need and really
Speaker 2: good stuff. So we'll take a quick break, come back
Speaker 2: on the other side to wrap up the four o'clock
Speaker 2: hour and keep this thing rolling along. It is I
Speaker 2: was gonna say it's the Littleville Football Pregiam show. It
Speaker 2: kind of is, but it's also coffee and company and
Speaker 2: we're fuel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven
Speaker 2: to ninety. Looking forward to being deposed here for the
Speaker 2: first time by the one and only mister Alex R.
Speaker 3: White.
Speaker 2: And I'll let you do your thing. This is what
Speaker 2: you do, this is where you shine. This is the
Speaker 2: first time for me, so we'll see how I do.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, so am I and I don't know
Speaker 2: anything about how this works, So I'll just ask this
Speaker 2: question really like, I'm not gonna if I maybe stretch
Speaker 2: the truth here on some of these Could I be
Speaker 2: you know, could I get in trouble legally?
Speaker 5: Like I just want to remind you that you're under
Speaker 5: oath threat, and.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm asking essentially, like it you will be okay, Well,
Speaker 2: then then you will get nothing but the You will
Speaker 2: get nothing but the God's honest truth from me.
Speaker 6: So and if I have a question you don't understand it,
Speaker 6: I want you to ask me to rephrase it, because okay,
Speaker 6: if you do answer, I'm going to assume that you
Speaker 6: understood it and therefore that your answer is one hundred
Speaker 6: percent Actors.
Speaker 2: This makes sense, Yeah, it makes total sense.
Speaker 5: Are you any drugs or I'll call to day would
Speaker 5: affect how you answer these questions? Nope?
Speaker 3: Not yet?
Speaker 5: Okay? Do you have any memory issues or taken any
Speaker 5: medication from memory issues? Nope? Okay? All right, Well could
Speaker 5: you tell us your age?
Speaker 2: Thirty six years old?
Speaker 5: Where did you go to high school?
Speaker 2: North Bullet High School?
Speaker 5: And these questions are going to get harder as they
Speaker 5: go on. Okay, so where did you go to college?
Speaker 2: I went to three different colleges, never finished should do that.
Speaker 2: At one point I started at actually I started. My
Speaker 2: first decision when I made a college decision, was Mid
Speaker 2: Continent University, which I'm sure you've probably never heard of
Speaker 2: in near Paduca, Kentucky. I committed to play basketball there
Speaker 2: when I was a senior, and then I flipped at
Speaker 2: the last minute in April of my senior year to
Speaker 2: go to a school called Saint Catherine College. I was
Speaker 2: there for a year. Weird fact, both those schools no
Speaker 2: longer exist. How many people can say that usually if
Speaker 2: it's like a DeVry or something like that, like those
Speaker 2: schools don't usually stick around as long. However, these are
Speaker 2: schools that were around forever and have both shut down
Speaker 2: since my college days. So then I did the j
Speaker 2: CC thing for a little while, ended up at IUS briefly,
Speaker 2: and then I, you know, I started chasing this whole
Speaker 2: thing of you know, I don't even know if we
Speaker 2: called it sports media at the time, but I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, like I can always go back to school.
Speaker 2: I haven't yet, and I've still been able to kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, not grow up and talk on the radio
Speaker 2: about sports every day. So it's a long win that answer.
Speaker 2: But that's my college story.
Speaker 6: So you said basketball drove you a couple of these universities. Yes,
Speaker 6: what position did you play?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have you well, because this is a professional setting,
Speaker 2: I was going to have you guess. I played guard.
Speaker 2: They didn't put me in the post. I was the
Speaker 2: guy that at times if there was a mismatch. I remember,
Speaker 2: they would yell things like mouse in the house when
Speaker 2: somebody was It was pretty pretty demoralizing. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: played guard. Didn't do well in the paint.
Speaker 6: So what ultimately led you to becoming the Louisville sports
Speaker 6: commentator that you are today?
Speaker 2: A lifelong diehard fan. I think the first thing I
Speaker 2: ever loved was Louisville basketball and football. And I always
Speaker 2: thought I would go and play college basketball, not like
Speaker 2: you know, at a high level, but and then I
Speaker 2: would get into coaching. And the internet really took off,
Speaker 2: and I said, you know what, like, let me share
Speaker 2: my thoughts rather it be blogging or podcasting. And I
Speaker 2: started a website called the cardinalconnect dot com in two
Speaker 2: thousand and ten and put everything I had into it,
Speaker 2: didn't have any kids yet, it wasn't married yet, but
Speaker 2: I was still with my girlfriend then my wife now,
Speaker 2: and I worked a full time job. I feel like
Speaker 2: I ran the website, did blogging, podcasting more than I
Speaker 2: worked full time at my other job. And then after
Speaker 2: a few years, I was able to get I was
Speaker 2: able to get credential access to where it made it like,
Speaker 2: you know, I was considered somebody that is media that
Speaker 2: gets to cover the team. And then it kind of
Speaker 2: just quickly took off. I was working full time at
Speaker 2: I worked in software for a while, but I was
Speaker 2: also doing you know this, and I worked for a
Speaker 2: different station and I would go after work every day
Speaker 2: nine to five, and then I would go to do
Speaker 2: radio from five thirty to seven, and it was it
Speaker 2: was awesome. It didn't feel like work. But then got married,
Speaker 2: wife got pregnant, and I realized, yeah, I probably can't
Speaker 2: keep making that sacrifice for not a whole lot of money,
Speaker 2: and you know, we got a baby on the way,
Speaker 2: and it just worked out. It worked out perfect. The
Speaker 2: day that I we left with the hospital with our daughter,
Speaker 2: I got a call about a position open at our
Speaker 2: heart and that gave me the chance to leave my
Speaker 2: other career and do this full time. So I never
Speaker 2: thought it would would turn out to what it's turned into.
Speaker 2: Never thought I would be able to even do it
Speaker 2: as long.
Speaker 3: As I have.
Speaker 2: So that's that's how it all worked out. I've been
Speaker 2: very fortunate and it you know, it is work, and
Speaker 2: I do try to put everything I have into it,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't feel like works. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: What a day you're daughters born and then you get
Speaker 5: the call the same day yep.
Speaker 2: And I'd interviewed for a job there like a year
Speaker 2: before or where I'm at now, and they had later
Speaker 2: hired somebody else. So they called me and they said
Speaker 2: they were creating a position to put me on from
Speaker 2: noon to three because it'd never been live local at
Speaker 2: that time slot before. First I thought it was a
Speaker 2: prank call, and then I realized I recognized the person
Speaker 2: who was calling. And my wife still gives me crap
Speaker 2: about this because I knew that when we left, but
Speaker 2: I didn't tell her till like five days later. I
Speaker 2: was like, what what should we do? Because it was
Speaker 2: a little bit of a financial like it was a
Speaker 2: pay cut initially, and I was thinking you know, I
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't be selfish. And she was like, if you don't,
Speaker 2: you'll never You'll never forget if you know, like you
Speaker 2: would hold it over me. And I was like, no,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. She was like, look, if it doesn't work out,
Speaker 2: it didn't work out, but you'd be a fool not
Speaker 2: to at least give it a shot. So she's been
Speaker 2: very supportive.
Speaker 5: Glad you did. What advice would you give your sixteen
Speaker 5: year old self?
Speaker 2: Man, don't get caught up, or at least try. It's
Speaker 2: hard not to. It's impossible to not get caught up
Speaker 2: in the things you can't control, but try your best
Speaker 2: to not let things you can't control, you know, keep
Speaker 2: you from staying focused on stuff, if that makes sense. Like,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things we spend a lot of
Speaker 2: time energy that can just be a negative thing for
Speaker 2: us overall, from productivity from a mental standpoint, and if
Speaker 2: you know you have zero control over it, you're wasting
Speaker 2: your time giving it any added thought or stress. Easier
Speaker 2: said than done. But that's that's that's what I would say.
Speaker 6: All right, So let's shift gears a little bit. You
Speaker 6: mentioned negative energy. I'll listen to your.
Speaker 5: Show all week. You're a little you're a little down.
Speaker 6: On our football team right now after the Miami game,
Speaker 6: and I understand, so I would say.
Speaker 2: I'm done on the results. I think the team is.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what's frustrating is I think the team ax. Like,
Speaker 2: I think we got good play. I think we're better
Speaker 2: than last year, which is silly to say with the
Speaker 2: four and three record, but I watched them and I
Speaker 2: feel like they're better than they were a year ago.
Speaker 6: I did too, So I would say, after a rough
Speaker 6: week following the loss to Miami, what's the most positive
Speaker 6: thing you can say about uol's football team this season.
Speaker 2: There's a few things. I mean, quarterback play comes to
Speaker 2: mind initially because I think we've got a really, really
Speaker 2: good quarterback. Also, I mean, when you lose games, it's
Speaker 2: hard to really pull the main the main takeaway as
Speaker 2: a positive. But the three teams they've lost to are
Speaker 2: all currently top twenty in the country when it comes
Speaker 2: to strength of record. So at this point, with three losses,
Speaker 2: they've been right there with the chance to win each
Speaker 2: of those games against good teams. That's also what's made
Speaker 2: it frustrating, is that, like if you just avoid a
Speaker 2: few mistakes here and there, you might be sitting at
Speaker 2: seven zero. So first reaction that was, is Tyler Schuck.
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's really special.
Speaker 6: Yes, you know, with the Miami game is interesting because,
Speaker 6: as you know, some people might feel like the sky's
Speaker 6: right now, but two or three of those plays go
Speaker 6: the other way. And this week is just about how
Speaker 6: awesome we are and how we just beat Miami and
Speaker 6: there's nothing bad.
Speaker 2: If they didn't reverse that fumble call, I think momentum
Speaker 2: would have been in our favor to where it would
Speaker 2: have been tough for Miami to leave there with a victory.
Speaker 5: All right, So followup question, what is your favorite U
Speaker 5: of L team of all time?
Speaker 2: Oh man, you're nineteen ninety six, ninety seven Louisville basketball team,
Speaker 2: Dwan Wheed, Alvin Simms, BJ Flynn, Damian Danceler, Alex Sanders.
Speaker 2: That was the first team under Denny Crumb that I
Speaker 2: was old enough at that point to know like how
Speaker 2: it all works as far as NAA tournament rankings and
Speaker 2: all that, and that was the first team for me
Speaker 2: and really the only team, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: that was. I mean, they lost in the eight eighth
Speaker 2: North Carolina that had Vince Carter Anton Jamison. I cried
Speaker 2: like for a day straight when it happens. That was
Speaker 2: the first team I really kind of like I understood
Speaker 2: the emotional investment that you make to be a fan
Speaker 2: of a team. It used to just be like, no
Speaker 2: matter what if they lose, I don't care. I love
Speaker 2: them when I was really little, But at that point
Speaker 2: I was I was all in, that's the that's I mean.
Speaker 2: To this day, I still I still think that team
Speaker 2: was my It was you know, it was young, but
Speaker 2: that was the most fun I had to watching the team.
Speaker 6: I think those guys were rad in the nineties. If
Speaker 6: you can just text them, tweet them, see if any
Speaker 6: of ee want to come to Rad Revival tomorrow, it's
Speaker 6: gonna be awesome and they can.
Speaker 2: Be That would just enhance the nineties vibes.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: It was the best team of the nineties that they
Speaker 2: had wear.
Speaker 5: Their old jerseys.
Speaker 6: So one thing that you've talked about this week is,
Speaker 6: you know, if possible, you think it's nice for people
Speaker 6: to go to one away game a year, and this
Speaker 6: is something I try to do every year too, and
Speaker 6: I go to bunch of college football games.
Speaker 5: Last year. I think my wife and I went to
Speaker 5: eight or nine games or in the season.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 5: It was nice, really good season of fun for us.
Speaker 5: What is your favorite away game experience? What team or
Speaker 5: what what game was it?
Speaker 2: Oh man, I would say football or basketball? Or does
Speaker 2: it matter when we're in football season? Yeah, so for
Speaker 2: football all this is gonna be a bad answer because
Speaker 2: it's not. It's just a memorable experience for me. I
Speaker 2: went to see them play Memphis when I was young, uh,
Speaker 2: and it was a rivalry and I was at the
Speaker 2: time where I knew like sort of what that meant.
Speaker 2: Louisville pulled out of victory, and you know, Memphis fans
Speaker 2: weren't very nice. So the atmosphere was great, but not
Speaker 2: because like, wow, this is such a great rivalry and
Speaker 2: the tradition. I mean, it's it's not a matchup that
Speaker 2: people really would ever think of when they think of
Speaker 2: big time atmosphere. But that's that's probably the one that
Speaker 2: stood out to me where I was there as a
Speaker 2: fan and like, you know, you know, every other every
Speaker 2: play that goes your way, you're looking down the aisle
Speaker 2: to see if the guy who was talking smack earlier
Speaker 2: is sad and all that. So that's the first when
Speaker 2: that comes to mind for me.
Speaker 6: So we're basically mid season, maybe a game passed right now.
Speaker 6: How does this team improve twenty twenty four mid season?
Speaker 6: What is the dial that they turned to rebound and
Speaker 6: finish strong?
Speaker 2: Figure out how they can stop making mistakes that seem avoid.
Speaker 2: Last year's team I think developed in ability to absolutely
Speaker 2: stay locked in and win close games. Give them a
Speaker 2: chance late in the game and they would finish strong,
Speaker 2: and I think you could call it luck, but I
Speaker 2: think you can develop that skill as a team. It
Speaker 2: could be part of your identity. You find ways to
Speaker 2: win close games. This team they've done the opposite, so
Speaker 2: avoiding crucial mistakes they could come back to bite you.
Speaker 2: I mean, if that was easy to do, then nobody
Speaker 2: would make mistakes. But I really that's what's just made
Speaker 2: it so frustrating is that I don't think they're far
Speaker 2: off from being undefeated, but you are what your record is.
Speaker 2: They're four and three, and obviously that's not where you
Speaker 2: want to be. But I think it's not like they
Speaker 2: got to go out and become this totally different team
Speaker 2: or this guy's got to get substantially better from one
Speaker 2: week to the other. It's just cleaning things up, putting
Speaker 2: together a complete game. And if they can do that
Speaker 2: against Boston College tonight, I think they could go a
Speaker 2: long way. Not for you know, the perception of them,
Speaker 2: because it's a game you're supposed to win, but I
Speaker 2: think for these guys individually, if they put together a
Speaker 2: complete game and they win with a little bit of cushion,
Speaker 2: I think they could really put them in a good
Speaker 2: mindset to finish up the season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm excited Boston Collegers on the schedule now, yes,
Speaker 6: And obviously, could you want to lose any game, but
Speaker 6: sometimes a loss can be good for a team. And uh,
Speaker 6: we're basically a possession away from being unfeeded by winning
Speaker 6: all these games, one possession each game. So my hope,
Speaker 6: and I'm I tell people I'm an optimistic playing of attorney,
Speaker 6: so but.
Speaker 5: I'm also I'm well said's stick u of L fan.
Speaker 6: But my hope is, you know, winning winning on the
Speaker 6: road in any conference is hard. If they write the
Speaker 6: ship tonight, they take care of Boston College, beat the spread,
Speaker 6: beat the breaks off of them. Even then next game
Speaker 6: on schedule, we've got a historic chance against Clemson going
Speaker 6: there getting the w.
Speaker 5: That is salvaging the season.
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, it's never happened before. And I know
Speaker 2: they're playing good football. They're ranked really high, but they've
Speaker 2: I mean they they've The only team they've played with
Speaker 2: a winning winning record is Virginia. So again, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be tough. Teams don't go to death Valley and went
Speaker 2: very often. But again, I think this team has the
Speaker 2: ability to do it. Now well they do it. It's
Speaker 2: again easier said than done, but that would be huge.
Speaker 2: That'll that'll get you feeling as if those three losses
Speaker 2: don't sting as much if you can pull off that win.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just looking forward, That's what I'm just trying
Speaker 5: to be positive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know they are too. That's all they
Speaker 2: can do. That would be awesome.
Speaker 5: All right. So what's your favorite pro team? Oh?
Speaker 2: Uh, Indiana Pacers. I'm a Pacers guy, which I was
Speaker 2: growing up in the nineties obviously. How could you not
Speaker 2: as a kid love Michael Jordan and think he's the
Speaker 2: best thing that ever happened? Oh nice, I'm sorry. Well,
Speaker 2: you know my boss at Iheart's name is Michael Jordan's
Speaker 2: so like, maybe we could I mean, I could maybe
Speaker 2: get him to come out and then you could tell
Speaker 2: people Michael Jordan will be there and you won't be
Speaker 2: telling a lie.
Speaker 5: But yeah, probably have a poster of him.
Speaker 2: So I I loved Reggie Miller and the Pacers. My
Speaker 2: dad moved Indiana when I was a kid, and I
Speaker 2: just love watching Reggie Miller play. And they became and
Speaker 2: I was probably a bigger pacerss fan when I was
Speaker 2: younger than before I became a big u of l fan.
Speaker 2: So I'm still loyal to him. I I don't love
Speaker 2: what they're doing as far as you know. They either
Speaker 2: need to tank and get get a really good draft
Speaker 2: pick or somehow get really good free agents, but they
Speaker 2: stay in the middle, and hey, it's better than being terrible.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm a I'm a suffering Pacer span As
Speaker 2: of late.
Speaker 6: Reggie Miller was fun to watch. I can remember him
Speaker 6: and it's like does not miss threes?
Speaker 5: It was it was exciting back to Louisville. What is
Speaker 5: your favorite Louisville restaurant?
Speaker 2: Oh, man, you're gonna get me in trouble. Thorntons is great, man,
Speaker 2: I am I tell people this from time to time,
Speaker 2: and it's it's it's not uh, it's not a good
Speaker 2: look for me. But I have the palette of a toddler,
Speaker 2: like I can I can get. I mean, I can
Speaker 2: get anything and be and be fine. Like if you've
Speaker 2: got a decent burger, some wings, pizza, like, I'll be fine.
Speaker 2: But I would say there was a restaurant that I
Speaker 2: that I remember telling people, no, this is my favorite place,
Speaker 2: but they're no longer here in Louisville. Do you remember Hopcat?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I love Topcat and yes, so that was my favorite
Speaker 2: like local restaurant. But as far as I mean like
Speaker 2: place that you like, you you know, I give this
Speaker 2: place a lot of business and they're not paying me
Speaker 2: to say it. But I'm a I'm a Roosters guy.
Speaker 2: Like as far as you know, taking the kids their family,
Speaker 2: good atmosphere for watching games. There's like three different items
Speaker 2: that I really enjoyed that I could get So's. It's
Speaker 2: not fine dining by any means, but that's a regular
Speaker 2: place for me that I really really like. As far
Speaker 2: as you know, a nice steakhouse here, Jeff Ruby's is
Speaker 2: probably my go to when it comes to that.
Speaker 5: Great answers hopcat I was.
Speaker 2: Do you remember it?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had like the I think they had something
Speaker 2: called like the crack Fries. I mean, it was so good.
Speaker 2: We went to Grand Rapids last year, my wife and
Speaker 2: I did, for a concert, and little did I know
Speaker 2: that they started there and there's still a few locations,
Speaker 2: so it was an unexpected trip after I thought that
Speaker 2: the place had just completely died. It was just as
Speaker 2: good as I remembered.
Speaker 5: Yeah. When I started practice, my office was on Baxter Avenue.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, right there, So that little.
Speaker 6: Corridor, like all those restaurants I was, I was in
Speaker 6: at there all the time. There's a lot of good
Speaker 6: stuff that unfortunately, you know, it comes and goes. Sure,
Speaker 6: it's a boom bust industry, all right, So rad revivals tomorrow,
Speaker 6: we're gonna have about one hundred and seventy five to
Speaker 6: two hundred cars, all of which are eighties and nineties only.
Speaker 6: You asked me this question earlier, so I'm gonna hit
Speaker 6: you back with it. What is your favorite eighties and
Speaker 6: nineties car?
Speaker 2: So this one I feel like whenever it was, it's
Speaker 2: most like you saw you saw them more than you
Speaker 2: ever did. I think was late eighties early nineties a
Speaker 2: Honda CRX. Do you know what that is?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I just thought those I mean the small hatchback.
Speaker 2: I just thought that was the coolest looking car. I
Speaker 2: can't think of what the what the website was called,
Speaker 2: but I would. I would look for hours when I
Speaker 2: was in high school at different like body kids that
Speaker 2: people would put on those cars. I thought they were
Speaker 2: coole ast.
Speaker 3: Hell.
Speaker 2: I had a couple of friends of mine who they
Speaker 2: were able to go get one from like a Junkyard,
Speaker 2: and over time they fixed them up. So it's nothing,
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's it's it's pretty rare to see
Speaker 2: them this day and age. But I love those cars.
Speaker 6: So I was a Honda fanatic. My first car, ninety
Speaker 6: two hundred Prelude. Those were all too and you know
Speaker 6: when we got our licenses fast and furious, it just
Speaker 6: came oh yeah, So it was all about the tuner.
Speaker 6: And uh I had a Honda Prelude in ninety two.
Speaker 6: I had a it was in a car wreck in
Speaker 6: that which ultimately led to me becoming a personal injury.
Speaker 2: Journey Oh really or not?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: And then I had a two thousand hand of prelude,
Speaker 6: had a Honda S two thousand, had a Honta Civic hatchback.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: But CRX is one of my all time favorites. I
Speaker 6: never had one, but my friend did, and we kind
Speaker 6: of had a rule like, all right, well, this guy's
Speaker 6: got the prelude, this guy's got the Dell soul.
Speaker 2: This I was gonna say. I had a friend who
Speaker 2: had a del Soul.
Speaker 6: You don't, you know, don't tread on, you know, Ryan's
Speaker 6: the del soul. Gad so you can't get one now.
Speaker 6: So I was the prey rouge in our little car game.
Speaker 2: You all had claimed your certain your certain types of Hondas,
Speaker 2: makes sense, and they all and those I mean, they
Speaker 2: were really and to this day, if you see one
Speaker 2: that that is taken care of and doesn't look as
Speaker 2: if it's been around as long as it has, like
Speaker 2: I think to this day, the body style, just the
Speaker 2: look holds up, it's a really really all of the
Speaker 2: all the the prelude, even some of the civics. I
Speaker 2: had a buddy who had a Civic who I mean,
Speaker 2: he was a ninety eight I think, and he had
Speaker 2: it forever. It just got rid of it not that
Speaker 2: long ago. And it's still a beautiful car. Nobody would,
Speaker 2: I mean, unless you know, you wouldn't believe it's as
Speaker 2: old as it is.
Speaker 6: The last Honda I bought, I tried to kind of
Speaker 6: relive my high school glory days. Maybe it was like
Speaker 6: an earlier midlife crisis. But shortly after I graduated u
Speaker 6: L Law school, I bought like a ninety one Honda
Speaker 6: Civic Wagon called it the Wago Van Ultra Rare. No
Speaker 6: what you know, you never saw on the front end
Speaker 6: was like the CRX, but it was four or wagon.
Speaker 6: And my girlfriend at the time, she just could not
Speaker 6: understand what the heck this car was.
Speaker 2: She didn't understand the Honda love.
Speaker 6: And I think her dad was like very concerned about
Speaker 6: this is not what I expected you to bring home
Speaker 6: when you said you were dating a lawyer.
Speaker 5: This is a hoop d what are you doing? But
Speaker 5: that car was That car was cool. All the Hondas
Speaker 5: I've had have been very very special.
Speaker 2: So that's a good story.
Speaker 6: Great answer with the CRX. All right, So we've got
Speaker 6: some we've got some stuff going on in our office.
Speaker 6: Attorneys are very opinionated and we're very competitive as well,
Speaker 6: and you know, as attorneys like you want to advocate
Speaker 6: and generally think you're always right, and obviously I am. Uh.
Speaker 6: My favorite day of the year is our annual office
Speaker 6: chili cookoff, and I've won it once and I I mean, like.
Speaker 5: One of the top five moments of my life. I
Speaker 5: understand it was I sell the trophy.
Speaker 2: It's competitive, it's a competitive space, and if you're able
Speaker 2: to prevail as the winner, there'd be a memorable moment,
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
Speaker 5: And that year, uh, the trophy was this little toilet.
Speaker 2: So like it makes sense.
Speaker 5: It was really the year I wanted to shine.
Speaker 6: So but we've had some we had some like issues
Speaker 6: with this where someone entered a white chicken chili or
Speaker 6: slash soup uh into the chili cookoff uh, and they
Speaker 6: happened to win that year they did, so obviously I
Speaker 6: banned it the next year, and.
Speaker 2: I'd have done the same thing.
Speaker 6: We've had a little bit of a you know, uprising
Speaker 6: with the locals about whether or not that was the
Speaker 6: right thing to do and if white chicken chili or
Speaker 6: what I would call soup should be allowed.
Speaker 5: In our annual chili cookoff. So your neutral party. My
Speaker 5: attorneys have asked.
Speaker 6: Me to get your opinion of a respected community member
Speaker 6: in Louisville, what the rule.
Speaker 5: On that should be.
Speaker 2: I would say that it is. I mean, you might
Speaker 2: be able to get away with it here and there.
Speaker 2: Clearly somebody did once here at your office. But I
Speaker 2: would say, you know, I would say it's not. I mean,
Speaker 2: it can be a form of chili. But when it
Speaker 2: comes to like when you really get into like the
Speaker 2: debates about chili, it's more about like, Okay, did you
Speaker 2: put noodles in it? Is it more beef based that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff? But when it's white chicken, you're just
Speaker 2: putting the name chili at the end of it. That's
Speaker 2: not really by definition what I think most people think
Speaker 2: is chili. You could call it. Let's put it this way.
Speaker 2: You put all different kinds of chili, depending on how
Speaker 2: people want to make it. You put that in front
Speaker 2: of people, they're going to know that's some type of chili.
Speaker 2: You could put white chicken chili in front of somebody
Speaker 2: and tell them that it's soup in the would and
Speaker 2: second guess you that makes sense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, Aaron, I know that you're listening to the
Speaker 6: show today. White chicken soup is permanently banned from the
Speaker 6: alex Or White Pillows Chili office cook off.
Speaker 2: If you called chili chili soup, people would say, why
Speaker 2: are you calling it soup? So I'm sorry to give
Speaker 2: those that are on the white Chicken chili side the
Speaker 2: bad news. But that's that's how I see it.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, again, like I told you at the
Speaker 5: beginning of your under.
Speaker 2: Oath, so I said to be honest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate you speaking the truth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to make sure I'm honest here, and
Speaker 2: I give myself in any trouble. I got a family
Speaker 2: at home.
Speaker 6: So the final thing that we you know, we have
Speaker 6: a lot of infighting on in our office that my
Speaker 6: attorney specifically you know, knowing that you would be here today,
Speaker 6: wanted to get your opinion on okay, and this is
Speaker 6: the cause of a lot of heartache and debate here.
Speaker 5: Who has better music, Zach Brian or the Zach Brown
Speaker 5: band man.
Speaker 2: So I think Zach Bryan is super talented, really really
Speaker 2: a good artist. I think he's real genuine. You can
Speaker 2: tell he's somebody that is very much, you know, seemingly
Speaker 2: one hundred percent involved in the creation of his of
Speaker 2: his of his art, which I respect that. It's just
Speaker 2: not really my cup of tea quite like it is
Speaker 2: everyone else's. I'm not saying he's not good. He is good.
Speaker 2: I don't dislike him. I just can't match the level
Speaker 2: that people love him, if that makes sense. And Zach
Speaker 2: the Zach Brown Band, I don't. I think when it
Speaker 2: comes to just consuming the music and listening to it,
Speaker 2: like if it's on at a party, if if if
Speaker 2: they're playing live somewhere, that would be more my vibe.
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't say that like they're better than Zach Bryan.
Speaker 2: But I think for me, as far as my preference,
Speaker 2: if I'm just trying to enjoy music, I would probably lean.
Speaker 2: I would probably lean the Zach Brown Band. And I
Speaker 2: think most people probably would disagree with me. I don't
Speaker 2: know what's your office think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think everyone disagrees. Yeah, yeah, planet pretty much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, always trust me. He's but you know
Speaker 2: he's I mean he's right now. We were just talking
Speaker 2: about this the other day. Zach Bryan, Taylor Swift and
Speaker 2: like Morgan Wallen and maybe you throw Jelly Roll in there,
Speaker 2: like those are four people that I feel like right
Speaker 2: now have the most momentum in music as far as
Speaker 2: they'll sell out any show they're doing, and they're all great.
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, it's not it's not my cup
Speaker 2: of tea compared to others.
Speaker 5: It's hotly debated here, so it's not everyone.
Speaker 2: How many people are are anti Zach Bryant.
Speaker 5: So we have an attorney group chat.
Speaker 6: We have eleven attorneys at our office, and it's about
Speaker 6: fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: I mean, really, that's surprised me. That makes me not
Speaker 2: feel like I'm such a you know, I'm in the minority.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and the opinions are very strong.
Speaker 2: I mean, no one, what do people not like about
Speaker 2: Zach Bryan because I think all of his music is
Speaker 2: relatively the same, which isn't a bad thing. It's it's sad.
Speaker 2: It's not much of a pick me up. I'm okay
Speaker 2: with some slower songs that you know, have good meaning
Speaker 2: and good message and whatnot. But if I'm just rolling
Speaker 2: through a new album of Zach Bryan, like, I'm probably
Speaker 2: gonna feel pretty sad afterwards, and that's not what I'm
Speaker 2: looking for. But he's certainly, he's certainly talent.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 6: Yeah, awesome, man, Well those are those are all the
Speaker 6: questions I have for you today. Uh, you got almost
Speaker 6: all of them right.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: I'm not telling my attorneys about your answer to the
Speaker 6: Zach Bryan win because we're just running.
Speaker 5: It might kick me out.
Speaker 6: We're on opposite sides there, and I want to like
Speaker 6: maintain that I'm right about everything.
Speaker 2: Yeare, of course you're lawyer.
Speaker 3: I get.
Speaker 6: I can't give an inchest to that. I understand we're
Speaker 6: too competitive here. What is their gripes against him?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's more just that like Zach Brown
Speaker 5: Band is better would be what they say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I don't feel like many people would say that,
Speaker 2: Like I That's why I tried to dance around it slightly.
Speaker 5: To just say that, like you were taking the underdog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they have, Yeah, although I feel like
Speaker 2: there there are Zach Brown Band fans that were kind
Speaker 2: of all in on him before they became much bigger,
Speaker 2: like I have. I think I've have. Maybe I'm thinking
Speaker 2: of a different group, but I've heard people say that
Speaker 2: there was a like the it's not the same crowd,
Speaker 2: not the same amount of people, but like obviously a
Speaker 2: Dave Matthew show is something like similar to people who
Speaker 2: are paired heads that would go to Jimmy Buffet shows.
Speaker 2: I've heard that Zach Brown their group like they have
Speaker 2: like like they've got a good following and people will
Speaker 2: travel to go see him because they're really great lives.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's what I underestimated when it because I
Speaker 2: would just assume that, like I was the only person
Speaker 2: that would have preferred Zach Brown over Zach Brian. But
Speaker 2: you know, I guess I'm not in the minority.
Speaker 5: The I liked him before they were cool.
Speaker 3: Thing.
Speaker 5: A couple of sayings.
Speaker 6: One is all Rosley alex our White PLLC. And eight
Speaker 6: years ago, I was interviewing an individual who's now my
Speaker 6: office manager. She's worked here for almost a decade, and
Speaker 6: I remember early on she told me about.
Speaker 5: This guy jelly Roll.
Speaker 6: That's her silly name, and she'd played jelly Roll music
Speaker 6: like during the work day, and she talked about jelly
Speaker 6: Roll and going to concerts and showing me pictures and
Speaker 6: asking me all these questions about jelly Roll, and I'm like,
Speaker 6: you know, that's so cool.
Speaker 5: I'm so glad you like him. I have no clue
Speaker 5: who he is. And then like, you know, two three
Speaker 5: years ago, I'm listening to radio.
Speaker 6: And it's like, coming up next, jelly Role What no way, boy,
Speaker 6: someone picked that same name everywhere come out.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Apparently he was like in Louisville a lot.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, like union halls, like doing shows, probably
Speaker 2: in front of like one hundred people. So it's certainly
Speaker 2: been a it's been a come up for him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we were there, alex Or. White people see had employees
Speaker 2: that the ground, They saw it early.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I always now just think of jelly Bean because
Speaker 2: that's what my mother accidentally referred to him as one time,
Speaker 2: and I've just never been at when they said jelly Or.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I always go back to think to thinking
Speaker 2: of that. But Alex, I appreciate you having us out
Speaker 2: and I appreciate you being a part of the show.
Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun. And uh, let's uh,
Speaker 2: let's hope the Cards can can get a win tonight.
Speaker 5: Oh, they're don't have to hope.
Speaker 3: They're going to do it.
Speaker 2: I think they're going to do it too.
Speaker 6: Optimistic Plans attorney, optimistic football fan. It's it's going to
Speaker 6: be a great game. We're going to bounce back, and
Speaker 6: they have momentum going into that next big game.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: Good stuff.
Speaker 2: We're gonna believe in the power of positivity, speaking it
Speaker 2: into existence. Sorry, we need to get to a quick break.
Speaker 2: We were way too late. We'll have a little more
Speaker 2: commercial seer towards the end of the show than typically,
Speaker 2: but that's okay because you've got me coming up thirty
Speaker 2: minutes after the show once again for the pregame show,
Speaker 2: So stick around. It is Coffee and Company. We our
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