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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's dive in. We're setting coordinates way out there today,

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<v Speaker 2>folks past Jupiter, past Saturn, all the way out to

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<v Speaker 2>the ice Giant.

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<v Speaker 3>You're in this deep space. Yeah, and we're looking at

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<v Speaker 3>one of its moons, aerial. There's some really fascinating new

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<v Speaker 3>research out published in Chorus.

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<v Speaker 2>Fascinating is almost an understatement. The main takeaway, the big

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<v Speaker 2>headline here is that this research suggests Aerial, well, it

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<v Speaker 2>used to have a massive ocean under.

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<v Speaker 3>Its icy crust, a really massive one. We're talking potentially

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<v Speaker 3>over one hundred miles deep. That's about one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>seventy kilometers.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on, let's put that in perspective for everyone listening.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and seventy kilometers deep. How does that stack

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<v Speaker 2>up against say, Earth's oceans.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, think about the Pacific Ocean. Its average depth is

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<v Speaker 3>only about four kilometers maybe two point five miles, So

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<v Speaker 3>this potential pasted ocean on Aerial it could have been

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<v Speaker 3>something like forty times deeper on average than the.

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific, twenty times on a moon. That's what much smaller

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<v Speaker 2>than Earth. That's kind of mind bending.

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<v Speaker 3>It absolutely is. We're picturing this relatively small, icy world

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<v Speaker 3>way out in the cold, dark part of the Solar System,

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<v Speaker 3>and it might have had this colossal hidden layer of

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<v Speaker 3>liquid water. Yeah, it really makes you rethink.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing, completely makes you rethink the potential for water and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even heat way out there. So Okay, the big

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<v Speaker 2>question then is how how did scientists figure this out?

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<v Speaker 2>Just by looking at the surface. What cleaves did they find?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the core of the research. Led by folks

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<v Speaker 3>like Caleb Strom and Alex Patoff. They were basically doing

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<v Speaker 3>geological detective work.

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<v Speaker 2>Forensics on a planet terry scale exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>They looked at Aerial's surface geology, which is pretty dramatic,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a huge cracks and riches, and they tried to

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<v Speaker 3>connect those features to what must have been going on

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<v Speaker 3>inside the Moon and how it must have been orbiting Urinus.

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<v Speaker 2>In the past, so reverse engineering the forces involved, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the idea.

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of stress would you need to break the

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<v Speaker 3>Moon's crust in exactly the way we see it broken?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's zoom in on aerial itself. Then the

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<v Speaker 2>researchers called it pretty unique in terms of icy moons.

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<v Speaker 2>What makes it stand out? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>First off, its location and brightness. Is the brightest moon

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<v Speaker 3>of Uranus and the second one out from the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the fourth largest, but still pretty modest in size.

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<v Speaker 2>How modest are we? Talking?

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<v Speaker 3>Only about seven hundred and twenty miles across eleven hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty nine kilometers give you a sense of that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's roughly the driving distance from say, Tucson, Arizona, up

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<v Speaker 3>to Salt Lake City, Utah. That's the entire width of

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<v Speaker 3>the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Okay, so not huge, but clearly something dramatic happened

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<v Speaker 2>on its surface. You mentioned this geological paradox. What's that about?

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<v Speaker 3>It's this weird mix of really old and really young

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<v Speaker 3>looking Kraine side by side.

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<v Speaker 2>Old and young. How can you tell?

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<v Speaker 3>The old parts are just covered in impact craters. Tells

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<v Speaker 3>you that surface hasn't really changed much in maybe billions

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<v Speaker 3>of years, it's just been sitting there getting hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>But right next to those ancient battered areas you find

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<v Speaker 3>these stretches of remarkably smooth terrain, and that smoothness suggests

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<v Speaker 3>something wipe the slate clean relatively recently geologically.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking, like paving over the old roads.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of yeah. The prime suspect is cryovulcanism, icy eruptions

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<v Speaker 3>from inside the moon that float out, froze, and smooths

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<v Speaker 3>over the older crust.

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<v Speaker 2>So internal heat, slushy ice, or water erupting that already

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<v Speaker 2>hints at something interesting happening below it does.

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<v Speaker 3>But even more compelling than the smooth plains were the

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<v Speaker 3>giant cracks and faults, the sheer scale of the deformation.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you mentioned those, what kind of features are we

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<v Speaker 2>talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Massive fraction, really long ridges, and these complex systems called grabins.

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<v Speaker 3>A grabin is basically where a big block of the

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<v Speaker 3>crust is just dropped down between two parallel faults.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a valley formed by stretching and cracking exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And the key thing here, according to the paper, is

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<v Speaker 3>the scale. These features on aerial are described as being

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<v Speaker 3>at scales larger than almost anywhere else in the Solar.

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<v Speaker 2>System late larger than almost anywhere. That's a huge statement,

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<v Speaker 2>bigger than the cracks on Europa or the canyons on Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the claim. We're talking features that might stretch for hundreds,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe over one thousand kilometers, and these seem to be

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<v Speaker 3>part of a global pattern, suggesting the entire crust was

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<v Speaker 3>under immense tension.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if the cracks are that big, the forces must

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<v Speaker 2>have been equally enormous. You don't get solar system scale

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<v Speaker 2>cracks without solar system scale stress. Precisely, that's the fossil

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<v Speaker 2>record we were talking about. To crack and drop sections

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<v Speaker 2>of crust that large, the stress had to be intense, widespread,

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<v Speaker 2>and probably prolonged. Points to two things working together, serious

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<v Speaker 2>interurn heat softening things up, and really powerful external forces.

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<v Speaker 2>And those external forces would be tides from Uranus.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the prime candidate. Tidal forces, the gravitational push and

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<v Speaker 3>pull from orbiting Uranus. This incredibly fractured landscape became the

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<v Speaker 3>input data for their computer models.

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<v Speaker 2>So they had the crime scene, these giant fractures. How

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<v Speaker 2>do they use the models to find the culprit, the

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<v Speaker 2>engine driving it all?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the first step was meticulously mapping the locations and

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<v Speaker 3>orientations of all these major structures using the old Voyager

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<v Speaker 3>two fly by images from back in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, our only close up looks so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Then they fed this map, this pattern of fractures

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<v Speaker 3>into a computer program. This program was designed to simulate

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<v Speaker 3>how an icy moon's crust would respond to different kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of stress, specifically tidal stresses.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's break down tidal stress. We hear the term

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<v Speaker 2>a lot with moons like Europa or Eo. How does

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<v Speaker 2>it work?

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, it's all about gravity changing depending on distance. When

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<v Speaker 3>a moon orbits a big planet like Uranus, the side

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<v Speaker 3>of the Moon closest to the planet gets pulled harder

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<v Speaker 3>by gravity than the center of the moon does okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and the center in turn gets pulled harder than the

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<v Speaker 3>far side. So the overall effect is that the planet's

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<v Speaker 3>gravity tries to stretch the Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, stretching it like along the line pointing towards Uranus exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And as the Moon moves in its orbit, maybe getting

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<v Speaker 3>closer and farther away if the orbit isn't perfectly circular,

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<v Speaker 3>the amount of stretching changes. The Moon gets squeezed and

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<v Speaker 3>stretched squeezed in stretched.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah like kneading dough.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost yeah, Or imagine flexing a rubber ball. It constantly

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<v Speaker 3>changes shape slightly. For a moon, it might bulge towards

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<v Speaker 3>and away from the planet, relaxing back towards the sphere

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<v Speaker 3>as it moves. That constant flexing is the tidal.

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<v Speaker 2>Stress, and that flexing generates heat, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Friction, That's the key. It's called tidal dissipation, where tidal heating,

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<v Speaker 3>all that bending and flexing creates friction inside the moon,

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<v Speaker 3>converting the energy of its orbit into internal heat.

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<v Speaker 2>Like rubbing your hand ends together to warm them up,

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<v Speaker 2>but on a planetary scale.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely you bend a paper clip back and forth, it

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<v Speaker 3>gets warm eventually breaks a moon flexing under gravity, same principle,

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<v Speaker 3>just over millions or billions of years, and that internal

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<v Speaker 3>heat is what could potentially melt ice deep inside, creating

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<v Speaker 3>an ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it. So the strength of this tidal heating, this

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<v Speaker 2>flexing depends on the orbit.

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<v Speaker 3>Crucially, Yes, and the most important factor dictating the strength

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<v Speaker 3>of the tides is the shape of the orbit. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 3>it's eccentricity.

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<v Speaker 2>Eccentricity, Okay, what does that mean exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Eccentricity is just a measure of how much an orbit

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<v Speaker 3>deviates from being a perfect circle. A perfect circle has

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<v Speaker 3>an eccentricity of zero. The more elongated or oval shape

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<v Speaker 3>the orbit.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like a squashed circle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The bigger the difference between its closest point to

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<v Speaker 3>the planet and its farthest point, the higher the eccentricity value.

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<v Speaker 2>And why does that matter for tidal stress?

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<v Speaker 3>Because a higher eccentricity means a much bigger change in

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<v Speaker 3>the gravitational pull the Moon experiences during each orbit. It

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<v Speaker 3>gets stretched a lot more when it's closed and relaxes

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<v Speaker 3>more when it's far. That bigger change in shape means

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<v Speaker 3>much stronger flexing, more friction, and way more internal heat generated.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the modeling team basically asked how eccentric, how

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<v Speaker 2>non circular did aerials orbit need to be in the

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<v Speaker 2>past to generate enough tidal stress to create those gigantic

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<v Speaker 2>fractures we see today exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>They ran the models backwards essentially, and the answer they

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<v Speaker 3>came up with was that aeriel needed a past orbital

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<v Speaker 3>eccentricity of about zero point zero four.

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<v Speaker 2>Zero point zero four Is that a lot? How does

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<v Speaker 2>that compare it to its orbit.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. Ah, here's where it gets really interesting. Ariel's current

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<v Speaker 3>eccentricity is tiny, almost zero. That calculated past value of

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<v Speaker 3>point zero four about forty times larger than its current value.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty times. That's a massive difference. So its orbit used

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<v Speaker 2>to be significantly more stretched.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, significantly more effective at generating tides. Yes, even though

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<v Speaker 3>in orbit with e eor a point zero four would

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<v Speaker 3>still look pretty circular to the naked eye, the effect

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<v Speaker 3>on tidal forces isn't linear. It ramps up much faster.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait why isn't it linear? Why does a forty x

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<v Speaker 2>increase in eccentricity cause way more than a forty x

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<v Speaker 2>increase in stress.

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<v Speaker 3>It comes down to the physics of how that energy

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<v Speaker 3>turns into heat. The amount of tidal heating generated goes

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<v Speaker 3>up much faster than the eccentricity itself. It's often related

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<v Speaker 3>to the eccentricity squared or even higher powers depending on

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<v Speaker 3>the specifics.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so small changes in orbital shape can have these huge,

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<v Speaker 2>outsized effects on the inside of the Moon.

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<v Speaker 3>Massive effects. It means that this past orbit at point

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<v Speaker 3>zero four eccentricity would have been incredibly efficient at churning

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<v Speaker 3>up aerials interior, generating a ton of heat, enough heat

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<v Speaker 3>potentially to melt a very deep layer of ice.

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<v Speaker 2>That really puts it in perspective, especially when you compare

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<v Speaker 2>it to a moon like Europa. Right, Jupiter's moon, Europa

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of the poster child for tidal stress cracking

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<v Speaker 2>its surface. It is Europa's surface is famously fractured by

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<v Speaker 2>Jupiter's tides. But get this. The model suggests that for

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<v Speaker 2>Aerial to get its specific massive fractures, its past orbit

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<v Speaker 2>needed to be about four times more eccentric than Europe's

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<v Speaker 2>current orbit. Four times more eccentric than Europa. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So if you think Europa looks beat up, aerials

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<v Speaker 3>pass must have involved forces that were, in a sense,

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<v Speaker 3>four times more intense than what Europa experiences today. It

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<v Speaker 3>really drives home why the researchers described aerials features as

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<v Speaker 3>being on a scale larger than almost anywhere else. The

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<v Speaker 3>forces involved were just monumental. Okay, so we've got the

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<v Speaker 3>cause this incredibly eccentric past orbit generating immense tidal stress

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<v Speaker 3>Oh but why does that require an ocean. Why couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>and it just cracked under that incredible stress.

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<v Speaker 2>crucial about the style of fracturing. Okay, to get those

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<v Speaker 3>And a completely solid moon wouldn't do that. It would

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<v Speaker 3>just shatter differently exactly if aerial was solid ice from

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<v Speaker 3>single rigid unit. When you subject a rigid body to

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<v Speaker 2>So what does adding a liquid layer the ocean change?

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<v Speaker 2>How does that allow for these specific giant gravens.

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<v Speaker 3>The liquid water layer acts as a decoupling zone. Think

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<v Speaker 3>brittle ice shell and the solid rocky interior or.

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<v Speaker 2>Core the moon decoupling, meaning the shell can move somewhat independently.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely because the ice shell is essentially floating on this

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<v Speaker 3>liquid layer, it's not rigidly locked to the core. This

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<v Speaker 3>allows the entire shell to flex, stretch, and relax much

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<v Speaker 3>more easily in uniformly as a whole unit in response

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<v Speaker 2>Ah I see, So the ocean allows the entire crust

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<v Speaker 2>to participate in the flexing, leading to these large scale,

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<v Speaker 3>That's the idea. Without that liquid layer providing the slipplane

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<v Speaker 3>the decoupling, you likely wouldn't get the specific type and

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<v Speaker 3>scale of features like the massive parallel gravins that dominate

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<v Speaker 3>aerials observed terrain. The liquid layer facilitates that particular style

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that makes a lot of sense. The ocean isn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessary to explain the way the surface broke. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>researchers put it really well. In order to create those fractures,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have either a really thin ice shell

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<v Speaker 2>on a really big ocean, or a higher eccentricity and

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<v Speaker 2>a smaller ocean. So there's a trade off between how

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<v Speaker 2>or how strong the tides were.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, but the key point is, under the plausible conditions

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<v Speaker 3>dictated by the past eccentricity, you need that liquid layer.

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<v Speaker 3>The ocean is the non negotiable part of the equation

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<v Speaker 3>to explain the geology.

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<v Speaker 2>Which brings us back to that mind boggling depth one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy kilometers. How did they land on that

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<v Speaker 2>specific number?

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<v Speaker 3>That figure represents the kind of ocean depth that would

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<v Speaker 3>be compatible with the strongest plausible tidal stresses, the ones

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<v Speaker 3>generated by that calculated past eccentricity of point zero four.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like the maximum possible ocean size given the

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially yes, given that level of intense tidle heating over

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<v Speaker 3>a long period, the model suggests a significant fraction of

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<v Speaker 3>Aerial's original water ice mantle could have melted, potentially creating

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<v Speaker 3>an ocean that deep overlying the rocky core.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still incredible that we can pieces together from fractures

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<v Speaker 2>scene decades ago. But you mentioned a limitation the timing.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we know when all this was happening? When did

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<v Speaker 2>Ariel have the super eccentric orbit in this deep ocean.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the big unknown right now and definitely a focus

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<v Speaker 3>for future work. Orbital mechanics and moon systems are really complex.

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<v Speaker 3>Moons interact, orbits evolve, Tidal forces themselves tend to make

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<v Speaker 3>orbits more circular over very long, long time scales.

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<v Speaker 2>So this highly eccentric phase was likely temporary, maybe billions

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably likely happened earlier in the Solar system's history, but

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<v Speaker 3>pinning down the exact timing is tough. What this study

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<v Speaker 3>does is established the conditions required. It sets the physical boundaries,

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<v Speaker 3>the eccentricity needed, the maximum ocean depth possible that any

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<v Speaker 3>future model trying to trace Aerieal's history will have to match.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a crucial baseline.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's broaden the view now. This research wasn't done

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<v Speaker 2>in isolation, right, It's part of a larger look at

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<v Speaker 2>the Uranian system.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. This is actually the second paper in a

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<v Speaker 3>series from the same team. They previously published similar findings

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<v Speaker 3>for another one of Uranus's inner moons, Miranda.

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<v Speaker 2>Miranda, that's the one that looks like it was smashed

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<v Speaker 2>apart and badly put back together, right, really bizarre surface.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Miranda's geology is famously chaotic, and the team's earlier

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<v Speaker 3>work suggested that its weird features could also be explained

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<v Speaker 3>by pass tidal heating driven by a period of high

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<v Speaker 3>orbital eccentricity, likely also requiring a subsurface over.

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<v Speaker 2>So the researchers are talking about potentially twin ocean worlds

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<v Speaker 2>orbiting Urinus Aerial and Miranda.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the tantalizing possibility they raise. It suggests that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the conditions for generating significant internal heat via tides weren't

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<v Speaker 3>just a fluke for one moon, but perhaps a more

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<v Speaker 3>common occurrence or a phase that multiple inner moons went

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<v Speaker 3>through in the Uranian system.

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<v Speaker 2>That really changes the picture of the Uranian system, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>We tend to think of it as just this cold, distant,

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, for a long time, Uranus and its moons seemed

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<v Speaker 3>kind of dormant, just because they're so far from the

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<v Speaker 3>Sun and the initial flyby didn't reveal obvious ongoing activity

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<v Speaker 3>like Geyser's. But if Aerial and Miranda both potentially hosted

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<v Speaker 3>deep liquid water oceans in their past driven by internal

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<v Speaker 3>tidal heat, well, that paints a picture of a much

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<v Speaker 3>more dynamic and geologically active system history than we assumed.

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<v Speaker 2>It really underscores how important tidal heating is as an

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<v Speaker 2>energy source, potentially everywhere in the outer Solar System, completely

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<v Speaker 2>separate from sunlight.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, it's a game changer for thinking about potentially habitable

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<v Speaker 3>environments far from the star.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're still working with pretty limited data here, aren't we.

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<v Speaker 2>All of this is inferred from that single Voyager two

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<v Speaker 2>flyby back in nineteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the frustrating part. Yes, our only close up images

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<v Speaker 3>are decades old, and because of the flyby trajectory and

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<v Speaker 3>the way Uranus was tilted at the time, Voyager two

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<v Speaker 3>only got good views of the southern hemispheres of these.

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<v Speaker 2>Moons, so we've only seen half the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, exactly as Tom Nordheim, one of the studies co authors, emphasized,

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<v Speaker 3>we just haven't seen the northern halves of Aerial or

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<v Speaker 3>Miranda up close. It's kind of amazing we can deduce

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<v Speaker 3>this much from half a moon view decades ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that limit how confident we can be in these

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<v Speaker 2>ocean models.

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<v Speaker 3>It certainly introduces uncertainty, but that's also where the predictive

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<v Speaker 3>power of this modeling work becomes so valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>Predictive power how so.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the models aren't just explaining the features we have

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<v Speaker 3>seen based on the physics of how the entire Moon

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<v Speaker 3>should respond to those global tidal stresses. So the models

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<v Speaker 3>actually make specific predictions about what kind of features like

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<v Speaker 3>the orientation and location of major fractures and ridges, we

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<v Speaker 3>should find on the unseen northern hemispheres if this whole

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<v Speaker 3>scenario is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, So it's like they've drawn a map for a

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<v Speaker 2>future mission. If we're right, you should find giant cracks

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<v Speaker 2>running this way up north.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, they've provided testable hypotheses. They've essentially laid out the

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<v Speaker 3>geological treasure map for a future orbitor or probe going

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<v Speaker 3>back to Urinus. It makes the scientific case for a

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<v Speaker 3>return mission much stronger.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can see why they'd be pushing for it. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>the evidence is compelling. Potentially two ancient ocean worlds with

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<v Speaker 2>specific predictions waiting to be verified. It really boils down

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<v Speaker 2>to what the researchers themselves say. Ultimately, we just need

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to the Urinus system and see for ourselves. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's try and pull this all together. We journeyed out

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<v Speaker 2>to Ariel, this fairly small moon of Uranus. Its surface

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<v Speaker 2>is covered in these absolutely enormous fractures and grabins, some

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest geological scars seen anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Right evidence of massive past stress.

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<v Speaker 2>The only way to generate that much stress, the model show,

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<v Speaker 2>was through intense tidal forces from a past orbit that

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<v Speaker 2>was way more eccentric, about forty times more than today,

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<v Speaker 2>an orbit.

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<v Speaker 3>Potentially four times more eccentric than even Europe's current one.

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<v Speaker 2>And crucially, the way the crust broke forming those specific

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<v Speaker 2>global features required the ice shell to be floating decoupled

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<v Speaker 2>from the.

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<v Speaker 3>Core, which means there had to be a liquid layer

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<v Speaker 3>in between a subsurface ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>A notion that under those extreme past conditions could have

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<v Speaker 2>been over one hundred miles one hundred and seventy kilometers.

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<v Speaker 3>Deep, just a staggering volume of water.

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<v Speaker 2>And this isn't just aerial. Similar evidence points to its

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<v Speaker 2>neighbor Miranda, potentially being a twin ocean world. It completely

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<v Speaker 2>recasts the Uranian system.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it shifts review from seeing it as just cold

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<v Speaker 3>endorment to a place that was likely once incredibly dynamic,

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<v Speaker 3>wet and warm inside thanks to tidal energy.

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<v Speaker 2>What stands out most to you from all this?

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<v Speaker 3>For me, it's the sheer implication for water in the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>If these relatively small moons orbiting a distant ice giant

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<v Speaker 3>could generate enough internal heat to sustain oceans this massive,

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<v Speaker 3>it just reinforces that the ingredients for potentially habitable environments

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<v Speaker 3>liquid water and energy might be far more common out

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<v Speaker 3>there than we used to think, even in the really cold,

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<v Speaker 3>dark places. It definitely makes you wonder, and it leads

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<v Speaker 3>to a final thought building on that idea of pass oceans.

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<v Speaker 3>If Aerial and maybe Miranda really did have these deep

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<v Speaker 3>oceans billions of years ago, how long could they have lasted?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a billion dollar question, isn't it? How long can

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<v Speaker 3>liquid water persist inside an icy moon once the period

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<v Speaker 3>of intense tidal heating ends? Is it free slowly over eons?

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<v Speaker 3>Good pockets remain liquid even today.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the duration matters, right, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Chemistry, it matters immensely. The longer you have liquid water

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<v Speaker 3>in contact with a rocky core, especially if there's heat

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<v Speaker 3>driving hydrothermal activity like vents on earth seafloor, the more

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<v Speaker 3>time you have for complex chemistry to occur, time for

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<v Speaker 3>interesting molecules to form, perhaps even precursors to life.

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<v Speaker 2>So understanding not just if the ocean existed, but for

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<v Speaker 2>how long is the next big step Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>This work opens the door to investigating the whole life

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<v Speaker 3>cycle of these potential Outer Solar System motions. How long

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<v Speaker 3>did they exist, how did they evolve? It seems the

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<v Speaker 3>universe might be teeming with these hidden water worlds, vast

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<v Speaker 3>and ancient, just waiting for us.

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<v Speaker 4>To explore them further day

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<v Speaker 3>Seas u
