Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Speaker 1: Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.
Speaker 2: How's it going, Tony, Day two of Big ten media days,
Speaker 2: and to say it has been a whirlwind pace today
Speaker 2: would be a little bit of an understatement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of stuff going on, some stuff going on
Speaker 1: at the same time as other stuff. But we do
Speaker 1: what we can. We try our best and sometimes do
Speaker 1: we fall short. No, it's everybody else's faults.
Speaker 2: The world has failed us in some ways, but in
Speaker 2: other ways we have been able to overcome.
Speaker 1: That's right, and that's a lot it's overcome. But you know,
Speaker 1: you face a little adversity in the summer. It sets
Speaker 1: you up for the season, but we will also face
Speaker 1: adversity covering games.
Speaker 3: But welcome everybody.
Speaker 1: We have now finished talking with Ryan Day, talking with
Speaker 1: Julian's saying and Jayleen McLain and Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 3: I want to talk.
Speaker 1: About Ryan Day here right now, and Tom, I want
Speaker 1: you to try to guess. So Jeremiah Smith is have
Speaker 1: many conversation with Mickey Muratti and Nick Coach Bick said, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you know who the toughest player on the team is?
Speaker 1: And Jeremiah is like, you know, thinking about it, it's
Speaker 1: like who And then Mick told him. And then when
Speaker 1: Ryan Day was told this story and told this answer,
Speaker 1: there was.
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, well I'm going to guess and I don't
Speaker 2: think this is the same story. But I was in
Speaker 2: the back for Jeremiah and for him talking about one thing,
Speaker 2: and he he mentioned rock boyd oh, and in terms
Speaker 2: of rock Boy, Well, you know what, we're gonna say that,
Speaker 2: Jeremias the show because you obviously are expecting a different answer,
Speaker 2: So why don't you tell me the answer?
Speaker 3: Quarterback Julian's saying it.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, if that's.
Speaker 2: True, that's potentially a really big development because I know
Speaker 2: I was there when Jeremiah spposed to talking about him
Speaker 2: in some other contexts, and he talked about the fact
Speaker 2: that he is ready to run more. I think they've
Speaker 2: been training together during the off season, and you know
Speaker 2: that it is very much I think an I Am
Speaker 2: the Tiger situation where this is potentially a contract year
Speaker 2: for both of those guys, and I think both guys
Speaker 2: recognize that both guys recognize they weren't that far from
Speaker 2: winning it all last year, and you get a little
Speaker 2: bit close. You know, you put it, you get yourself
Speaker 2: a little bit closer, you may get the team a
Speaker 2: little bit closer.
Speaker 1: Well, and they Mick has them training together or in
Speaker 1: the workouts together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, in the weight room.
Speaker 1: So you know, Julian obviously likes that because Jeremiah is
Speaker 1: incredibly hard workers, so that was fun for him.
Speaker 3: But yeah, just.
Speaker 1: The having that guy be whether you know, Nick is
Speaker 1: blowing somebody up or what.
Speaker 3: But it's like your quarterback.
Speaker 1: Being able to answer the call in those in those
Speaker 1: ways then allows for them to do things in other
Speaker 1: ways during the game when you know all of this,
Speaker 1: all of the stuff you're doing off off of the
Speaker 1: field applies on the field. So I thought that was
Speaker 1: one interesting thing, the one thing that I was trying
Speaker 1: to find out, and it was impossible, almost possible to
Speaker 1: get a question in the offensive line and where is
Speaker 1: everybody wears Austin Sierveld wears In more time, they hope
Speaker 1: to have that answer by about practice nine or ten.
Speaker 1: So I have enough information that either Ian Moore could
Speaker 1: do it, or Austin Sierveld should do it, or Josh
Speaker 1: Berdia needs to play, or you know, like they he
Speaker 1: said they're gonna go with their best five, and they
Speaker 1: need to know who that is by about practice nine
Speaker 1: or ten, which is week two of practice, so that
Speaker 1: you can so that you can begin getting ready for
Speaker 1: game planning with your starting lineup.
Speaker 2: And that's about the time that they typically will say
Speaker 2: they want to have a starting quarterback as well. And
Speaker 2: I get it. I understand, and I do think there
Speaker 2: is potentially some legitimate question here because Josh da the
Speaker 2: fact that Josh Pvida wasn't practicing this spring means you
Speaker 2: really have not seen the different permutations of this line
Speaker 2: working together in a full practice set up, Like there's
Speaker 2: certain stuff they can do this time of year, but
Speaker 2: there's other stuff they're limited and they can't do, and
Speaker 2: so you really haven't seen this in an eleven on
Speaker 2: eleven situation. So I get it, and I think there
Speaker 2: probably is a legitimate question at that. You know, there
Speaker 2: are sometimes when we will be at Big ten media
Speaker 2: days and they'll say, well, the quarterback competition still an
Speaker 2: open question is like is it really because can I
Speaker 2: bet on one of the outcomes? Because I think I
Speaker 2: know that you're going to have this outcomings to be
Speaker 2: able to announce it on about the.
Speaker 4: Tuesday of the third week. I bet I can get that.
Speaker 2: This one feels like a little bit more of a
Speaker 2: legitimate question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And rarely has the offensive line that has been
Speaker 1: the number one offensive line in the spring been the
Speaker 1: exact offensive line over the past few years in fall camp.
Speaker 1: And so this one, it's not a huge surprise. It's
Speaker 1: kind of you know, we've all been fantasy booking this thing,
Speaker 1: but there wasn't there wasn't enough evidence in the spring
Speaker 1: when Craveld and Philip Daniels are both out for two weeks,
Speaker 1: and Dean more you know he played, but this one
Speaker 1: spring camp not to let you know that he's ready
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 3: Options.
Speaker 2: Well, this is this is one of those would you
Speaker 2: bet on it? Okay, would you bet your house on it? Like,
Speaker 2: there's a lot more than just a house at stake
Speaker 2: with this Ohio State football season, in really every Ohio
Speaker 2: State football season, because if you go out in the
Speaker 2: first round of the playoff, well that's a very different
Speaker 2: kind of offseason for coaches, players, program donors, everything than
Speaker 2: if you win the national champion him and so there
Speaker 2: is a lot at stake this year and you look
Speaker 2: at the schedule, and there's a lot at stake very
Speaker 2: early in this season, and there's a lot at steak
Speaker 2: in the middle part of the season. You don't have
Speaker 2: the luxury as well. We'll figure it out, you know.
Speaker 2: Remember when Michigan had the quarterback battle, It's like, well,
Speaker 2: we'll have one guy start one game and one guy
Speaker 2: start the second game, and then we'll sort of figure
Speaker 2: it out from there.
Speaker 4: They don't have the luxury that.
Speaker 3: This year now. And you mentioned the schedule.
Speaker 1: He said, this schedule is going to get them used
Speaker 1: to playing and accustomed to playing and comfortable playing into
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in the playoffs. Should they win these games, Yeah,
Speaker 1: these regular season games. And I believe there's an Iowa
Speaker 1: reporter writer here asking Ryan, what do you remember about
Speaker 1: that twenty seventeen game in Iowa City, And his quote
Speaker 1: was like, I've wiped that from my mind.
Speaker 2: He said, he said, quote that was really bad. And
Speaker 2: he said, quote, I try not to remember that game.
Speaker 2: Thanks for bringing it up, Tony. I don't think he
Speaker 2: really meant that last part.
Speaker 1: No, And he the good news is he knows what
Speaker 1: to expect there. He knows that anything can happen, and
Speaker 1: most of it is bad. But also that's just one
Speaker 1: of the games. There's Texas, there's Indiana, usc SO, and
Speaker 1: that's just the road games.
Speaker 2: Well, and Jeremiah Smith when he was listing some of
Speaker 2: the tough road games, the first three games he listed
Speaker 2: were Texas, Indiana, and.
Speaker 4: Nebraska, and I thought, interesting, I don't think that would
Speaker 4: be the third game that most people would list.
Speaker 2: But you know, the even even the potentially fifth toughest
Speaker 2: road game they have this year is no joke.
Speaker 4: This is a very, very challenging schedule.
Speaker 2: And that doesn't include the home games against Michigan and Oregon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And so they're going to be well prepared
Speaker 1: for the playoffs and and operating in those final moments
Speaker 1: that maybe didn't go so well last year for them.
Speaker 1: And even even Julian I think Julian Saying talked a
Speaker 1: little bit about how it was that last year's schedule
Speaker 1: is easy.
Speaker 3: He's like, well, let's just say what it is.
Speaker 1: Last year's schedule is easier than this year's schedule, and
Speaker 1: so they will be more prepared. Doesn't mean they're gonna
Speaker 1: win them all, but this won't be the first time
Speaker 1: during an uh oh, we better come up or something
Speaker 1: like they always go back to the two thousand and
Speaker 1: two team which they were born uh oh uh huh,
Speaker 1: and then we've got to deal with this, and like
Speaker 1: every game was like that. So by the time you
Speaker 1: get to Miami double overtime, it's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole season was brought to you by Spaghettios
Speaker 2: and they but they by the time they got to
Speaker 2: the end of the season, they had been playing in
Speaker 2: those games all season long. Miami had like a close
Speaker 2: game against Boston College that year and a close game
Speaker 2: against Florida State, and that was kind of it. They
Speaker 2: just kind of killed everyone else. So that was not
Speaker 2: and you know, that was a one game postseason at
Speaker 2: that point, so they didn't even have a conference championship
Speaker 2: game to prepare. It was just regular season BCS national title.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that you can you can certainly make a
Speaker 2: point that, yo, this will prepare them better for the playoff,
Speaker 2: but also don't lose three of the games, because then
Speaker 2: you might not make the playoff.
Speaker 1: One one thing that Ryan day, he continues to be
Speaker 1: asked about this, even though nothing has changed between this
Speaker 1: bring and now in terms of pace of play. I
Speaker 1: think people are just wanting a different answer. Yeah, to
Speaker 1: say no, we're.
Speaker 3: Going to go faster.
Speaker 1: That's that's what are you sure you're stilln't And basically
Speaker 1: he said what we've said in terms of you can't
Speaker 1: say it didn't work in twenty twenty four because the
Speaker 1: pace of play was essentially the same between the two years.
Speaker 1: It's like, you can't say it didn't work in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, but you also can't say it did work
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. But what you can't do is
Speaker 1: the easiest thing to do. And he said this about
Speaker 1: something else and the loss is the easiest thing to
Speaker 1: do is do nothing or change everything. Yeah, And instead
Speaker 1: you've got to find what worthy issues. And as he
Speaker 1: said in the spring, it's not about the pace of play,
Speaker 1: it's not about tempo. It's about efficiency. And I think
Speaker 1: people are just like, no, it's about we want to
Speaker 1: see faster and seems like what the questions are, It's
Speaker 1: like the answer is not going to change. They've not
Speaker 1: played a game yet. They have not you know, had
Speaker 1: sixty two snaps and lost to where now they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we better move faster.
Speaker 2: Yet, right, And it's something where people have made up
Speaker 2: their mind that that was a cause of issue, and
Speaker 2: was it the cause of the issue.
Speaker 4: It may have been, I can't tell you it wasn't.
Speaker 2: But also I don't think you can definitively say, you know, hey,
Speaker 2: if if they had gone at the exact same pace
Speaker 2: and Julian Sayan hadn't thrown that pick six, or if
Speaker 2: Julian Sayan's knee hadn't scraped the turf against Indiana, or
Speaker 2: if Jaden Fielding hadn't missed the field goal, you could
Speaker 2: play at the exact same pace and win the game.
Speaker 2: Now we've gone through the whole game theory thing, and
Speaker 2: you know, if you're a big favorite, you want to have,
Speaker 2: you want to maximize your number of players. You can
Speaker 2: build upon your you know, incremental advantage at each So
Speaker 2: like I mean, I can certainly make the game theory
Speaker 2: argument for playing with a little more tempo. But they
Speaker 2: have won with this, they have lost with this. This
Speaker 2: is not necessarily the single driving factor. It's certainly one
Speaker 2: potential piece of this. And you know, I think Arthur
Speaker 2: Smith is probably going to come in and have his
Speaker 2: own thoughts on this, because yeah, he's done this at
Speaker 2: a different level.
Speaker 4: He's he has been in charge.
Speaker 2: Of you know, not just spring an but running full
Speaker 2: NFL teams, so he's certainly going to have his own
Speaker 2: views as well.
Speaker 1: Last thing, Brian Day mentioned a particular position group that
Speaker 1: he's definitely going to have his eye on.
Speaker 4: I was there for this one.
Speaker 1: This season, and he talked about the running backs because
Speaker 1: did not see Bo Jackson or Isaiah West in the spring.
Speaker 1: And he mentioned something that we've talked about, which is
Speaker 1: the freshman running backs that the freshman thousand yard rushers like.
Speaker 3: He didn't go to the detail, but he talked about JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins outstanding as a freshman. Didn't want to call it
Speaker 1: a sophomore slump, but he was a much different back
Speaker 1: three yards for carrying different back.
Speaker 3: And what they can't have is for.
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson and Isaiah West to have a similar drop off.
Speaker 1: They need to pick it up. You can't go up, down, up.
Speaker 1: They need them this year to be cranking. And that's
Speaker 1: why I said, I'm going to be watching that position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, that was a position that he
Speaker 2: talked about it being a little bit of a question
Speaker 2: in the spring and a question last summer. That was
Speaker 2: a position where he had questions there as well. I
Speaker 2: don't think they've got a definitive answer there. I think
Speaker 2: they've wanted to.
Speaker 4: Pretend answers there.
Speaker 2: And he went through, you know, yeah, Bo you got you,
Speaker 2: you have Isaiah, You've got you, Kobe Jackson, He talked
Speaker 2: about Legend Bay.
Speaker 4: He mentioned Turbo Rogers.
Speaker 2: Those were the This is one of these things where
Speaker 2: we pay attention to the names he says, and the
Speaker 2: order he says, the ben because that's generally a little
Speaker 2: bit telling, and that was the order.
Speaker 4: Fourth name was Legend Bay. He went into a little
Speaker 4: more detail on Legend Bay later.
Speaker 2: Legend Bay obviously missed some time in the spring healthy
Speaker 2: this summer, so that's no longer a concern. The quote
Speaker 2: was the talent is there for sure, you can't deny that.
Speaker 2: But he later said, well, there's more to it than
Speaker 2: just talent, Like you can be talented.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 2: That doesn't get you on the field, that doesn't get
Speaker 2: you carries. It means you're in the conversation. But they
Speaker 2: need him to kind of do all the other stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wrote down the exact quote, but it
Speaker 1: was something to the effect he added, when he's got
Speaker 1: the ball, you're gonna notice him.
Speaker 3: There was something to that there.
Speaker 2: There's no question that when you see the ball in
Speaker 2: his hands, he's going to stick out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's I think that's exciting for everybody.
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