Speaker 1: Made a decision pay Sunny Sound on ahead of Visions Night.
Speaker 2: Hey everybody, welcome to our for Crying out Loud Friday edition.
Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Happy Friday, Happy Friday, though, Happy Friday.
Speaker 1: Can't wait. Wendy's coming back today? Oh camping, she's.
Speaker 2: Been gone all week. Oh yeah, I miss her already.
Speaker 2: She just left yesterday.
Speaker 1: Could real time move here and move into your house?
Speaker 2: She's talking about it. She's talking about selling her house
Speaker 2: in Florida and moving here.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know, I know, Weey.
Speaker 3: What about the Chicago? Does she still have the Chicago?
Speaker 3: She does still have the Chicago.
Speaker 1: You know. It's tough because Wendy's a grandma.
Speaker 2: You know, She's got like three grandchildren over there in
Speaker 2: Chicago and they all live so close together.
Speaker 1: But she could. But she also has her daughter's Jackie
Speaker 1: lives here, and all her sisters live out here, and
Speaker 1: I live here.
Speaker 3: And if she's sold the house in Florida, she could
Speaker 3: live here and then just go back and forth to Chicago.
Speaker 1: She might have to sell her Chicago house too, Oh
Speaker 1: but it could be doable. Or she might buy house
Speaker 1: with one of her sisters. I don't know.
Speaker 2: She just started talking about it. I don't want to
Speaker 2: get my hopes up, but that would be great.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Suzanne Adam is having a hard time because she
Speaker 2: just moved into Valencia and her house has been taken
Speaker 2: apart from this plumbing stuff, it's still not done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she had to go back to therapy for it.
Speaker 1: It's so bad. What's such an adjustment for her too,
Speaker 1: because she lived like she's always lived like they hear
Speaker 1: and her boyfriend lived in the city and her step
Speaker 1: children were there every night of the week for dinner.
Speaker 1: Now nobody's around. It's just her and her husband.
Speaker 2: And now they're like in the suburbs of Valencia, and
Speaker 2: she's just trying. And now like there was this plumb
Speaker 2: issue that happened where they'd take the cabinets out of
Speaker 2: her kitchen.
Speaker 1: She had to stay at an airbnb.
Speaker 2: Now they're back and they didn't have running water, like
Speaker 2: and she moved into the house.
Speaker 1: So the house was so cute. She had it all
Speaker 1: set up.
Speaker 2: Like the first weekend when I went to visit her,
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe how much they got done. Everything was hung,
Speaker 2: you know, the house was like almost done, like unpacked
Speaker 2: and then like a week later, plumbing issues start and
Speaker 2: it's been going on now for two months.
Speaker 1: But they must have gotten an inspection when they didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're saying that it happened after the inspection. Something
Speaker 2: happened where they had the sprinklers on the timer and
Speaker 2: it ran to I don't know, but they have homeowner's insurance.
Speaker 1: It's just taking forever.
Speaker 2: So she's like, hello, hurry up and move out here already,
Speaker 2: because like that would help if I had you as
Speaker 2: my neighbor and I could just come over, you know,
Speaker 2: after work, hang out with you, or you know, we
Speaker 2: can go join gym together.
Speaker 1: Like there's so much stuff, you know, right right, right, well,
Speaker 1: not too long, not too long, a few more weeks.
Speaker 3: I think it'll be good for you too. Mentally, I
Speaker 3: just think you're you're you're in the place where the
Speaker 3: neighborhood where you raise the kids, but like they're not there, right,
Speaker 3: so it's kind of like why am I here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who do I know out here? Right? And it's
Speaker 1: kind of far right where you live, Yes, So if
Speaker 1: you're in I'll be in the area.
Speaker 2: I'm four minutes five minutes from Suzanne, like seven minutes
Speaker 2: from Dawn, you know, so it'll be nice. Oh and
Speaker 2: Gina is out there. Oh really yeah? Oh d I
Speaker 2: want a dock, sir. But she's in that area. Well
Speaker 2: you're not saying her address, right, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's been texting me. I'm excited to see her. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And she's so fun.
Speaker 2: She is fun. Yeah, she's like she loves it. She
Speaker 2: loves it because she moved out there. And it's like
Speaker 2: you're moving to the suburbs kind of thing. That's what
Speaker 2: it's like out there. That's a lot good adjustment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I already live in the suburbs.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, like, I don't know, I live
Speaker 3: in the suburbs, don't. I mean, I could see it
Speaker 3: being more of an adjustment for Suzanne, but we already
Speaker 3: live in like little communities, right right. I love it
Speaker 3: because then you're gonna have a dog and when you
Speaker 3: go walk your dog, can't wait, You're going to see
Speaker 3: the same people. Like when I walk my dog and
Speaker 3: I'm oftentimes on the phone, my friends laugh because it's
Speaker 3: like I know all the dogs in the neighborhood. You know,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Hi, Ricky, there's these three there's three dogs.
Speaker 3: There's Bob, Ricky and Andy, oh, Ricky's a girl, but
Speaker 3: like it's Ricky is a like a big tall greyhound.
Speaker 3: Like you know how there's the little greyhounds, but there's yeah,
Speaker 3: there's big, bigger greyhounds. This this greyhound has never had
Speaker 3: to race, but they see they got it from a
Speaker 3: greyhound rescue. But anyways, sometimes this this greyhound just freezes up.
Speaker 1: It's and he just she and she won't move.
Speaker 3: So I have to all come across these neighbors, my
Speaker 3: neighbors John and Becky, they're the cutest, and then they're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: Ricky won't We're stuck. And then I'll have to bring
Speaker 3: Bob over, and then Bob will say hi to Ricky
Speaker 3: and then Ricky'll like start to follow Bob and like
Speaker 3: so we'll like get it going. So I'm like, you
Speaker 3: guys need a you need a Bob assist. And they're like, yes,
Speaker 3: Ricky stuck.
Speaker 1: But then you know, I just see all these friends.
Speaker 4: They're like, oh, hi, Bob, like you know, stop and
Speaker 4: say hi to different neighbors and like, you know, I
Speaker 4: would go for a walk with my neighbor Mitch and
Speaker 4: his dog Montana, and it's just.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you just get used to like Yeah, your
Speaker 1: routine and it's like a community, right, I know. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: It's fun. It'll be fun. Yeah, makes that used to
Speaker 1: it fast.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure there's like stores you'll you'll find you'll
Speaker 3: have your routine. I don't know what's out there, Ralph's,
Speaker 3: Trader Joe's.
Speaker 2: It's all out there. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, there's
Speaker 2: a mall. I don't go to the mall though, it's
Speaker 2: the last time I've gone to the mall. But yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe take like some yoga classes or something.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: My friend just started doing pilates for the first time
Speaker 3: at like basically my age, and she's like fuck it, like,
Speaker 3: let's go, let's do some new shit, like you know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: pilates is good for us at this age. It's really
Speaker 3: good if you do like a you know, a good
Speaker 3: beginner class.
Speaker 1: You know what. I was thinking.
Speaker 3: Just sort of as part of like the having been
Speaker 3: at this wedding that I talked about on Tuesday and
Speaker 3: being like the older generation, right, you know, as you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to race this. I just turned sixty
Speaker 3: and I was like, you know what, my personality is
Speaker 3: totally the same like when I was young, and you
Speaker 3: would look at like older people and just be like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, they're like older people, like they act
Speaker 3: like grandparents, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I am still the freaking same, Like
Speaker 1: I'm still edgy, I still swear all the time. Is
Speaker 1: it just inappropriate now that I'm like, no, But because
Speaker 1: you don't even look old, you don't look like an
Speaker 1: older person at all. I know.
Speaker 3: But it's so funny because I'm like, I'm at this
Speaker 3: wedding and definitely there's a younger and the younger people
Speaker 3: are in their freaking thirties, and I'm like, it's not
Speaker 3: even like the younger people are like my kid's age,
Speaker 3: Like the younger generation.
Speaker 1: Are in their thirties, and I'm like, I was just
Speaker 1: in my thirties, right, it's like five minutes ago.
Speaker 3: Five minutes ago, I was in my thirties, Like it
Speaker 3: was not that long ago, and I haven't changed very much, yay, exactly,
Speaker 3: Like the adulting is this same, Like, yeah, I pay
Speaker 3: a mortgage and I raise kids, like nothing's that different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still totally fun with my kids.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel too. Like we were just talking,
Speaker 2: Wendy and I were just talking about because Wendy's ten
Speaker 2: years older than me, you know, and she's like, it
Speaker 2: just sucks getting old. She goes, I don't feel the
Speaker 2: age I am. I feel like I'm still twenty five
Speaker 2: years old, thirty years old, you know, just now that
Speaker 2: I'm just a grandmother. But you know, like it just yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess you're as old as how.
Speaker 1: You feel, not what they say.
Speaker 3: Yes, but when you think about it, kids are like, Okay,
Speaker 3: yeah you'rears old is how you feel.
Speaker 1: But still you're old and you look old.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying my kids are saying that, but I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like the way people perceive ye people aging right in
Speaker 3: our society, it's like, oh, you're an older person, but
Speaker 3: I just don't feel like that, and it's so unfair.
Speaker 1: It is unfair.
Speaker 3: I still want to wear cute clothes. I was still
Speaker 3: kind of proud of myself for having like a few tattoos,
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean. I was like, and
Speaker 3: now I want another tattoo. Fuck you society. I want
Speaker 3: to get another tattoo. I'm want to get one on
Speaker 3: my arm, like I want to go like, but I
Speaker 3: don't want to be like trying to be young. But
Speaker 3: I'm like you guys, I know all the words to
Speaker 3: some Tupac songs. It is like, yeah, like I fucked yo, bitch, yeah,
Speaker 3: take money, take money.
Speaker 1: It just seems so wrong. We should play that song
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode. We should. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna to do that.
Speaker 3: Yes, But I think times have changed, and there's there
Speaker 3: like I don't know what it is, but they can sense.
Speaker 3: They can if you have a song, and they'll like
Speaker 3: they'll clock you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you too do it YouTube? Right? But does iTunes?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But I could just play it off my phone a
Speaker 3: little bit at the end for like fun, like not
Speaker 3: the way Kaylen did because that could get fluted. But anyway, Yes,
Speaker 3: But I was just like, this is so unfair because
Speaker 3: I'm looking at all of like I told you, we
Speaker 3: were having.
Speaker 1: So much fun. Me and the other old people.
Speaker 3: We were being very funny. Everybody was like, we were
Speaker 3: all laughing. But yet some of these people have like
Speaker 3: a summer home in Michigan. Yeah, and I know that
Speaker 3: the thirty year olds don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, other than that, we're not different, right, I know.
Speaker 1: I know it does suck getting old. We dressed young,
Speaker 1: like I you know what I mean? Yeah, what did
Speaker 1: you wear it to the wedding? You were wearing like I.
Speaker 3: Wore this black like a kind of a tight black
Speaker 3: dress that had a big that had like.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's picture on him. Yeah yeahah, very cute. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like totally cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was wearing like dressier shoes for the
Speaker 3: church part of the wedding. But then I got back
Speaker 3: and I was like, hell no, put on some orthopedic
Speaker 3: ass like cushy sandals to dance with. Here's the difference,
Speaker 3: Here's what it is. It's like when you get to
Speaker 3: a certain age and remember that I do not care
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Speaker 3: get to a certain age and you're just like I
Speaker 3: just don't care as much about like what other people
Speaker 3: are doing. Like I don't have to wear that's what
Speaker 3: a strussy shoes. I can wear old lady's shoes if
Speaker 3: I feel like it, because I'm comfortable. I cannot wear
Speaker 3: a bra if I don't feel like wearing a bra,
Speaker 3: because like, what do I care. I'm not trying dudes
Speaker 3: on like my walk in the morning. Yeah you don't
Speaker 3: really care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can just do whatever you want and not
Speaker 2: have to worry about what people think.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's talk a little bit about your favorite subject,
Speaker 2: Hot Car Dad.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, because we told people to watch it.
Speaker 2: Yes on Amazon Prime, Yes, Fatal Distraction. Distraction is the
Speaker 2: is the net is the documentary. It's on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 2: And I found it and I know that Stephanie was
Speaker 2: coming home from a hell hell is shut day of travel,
Speaker 2: so I told her, like, when you get home, you
Speaker 2: have something to watch. Yes, So I watched it. There
Speaker 2: was so much that they left out, So it was
Speaker 2: more like a psa for, you know, for to change
Speaker 2: the laws so that cars could have some kind of
Speaker 2: ding ding ding, I guess, or what.
Speaker 1: Which makes sense?
Speaker 2: All the technology we have, why don't we have something
Speaker 2: that alerts to you that there's a kid in the backseat?
Speaker 1: I agree with you.
Speaker 3: The problem was I was really excited to watch this
Speaker 3: and I had listened to the Atlanta Journal.
Speaker 1: God, yeah, I remember that the Atlanta Journal Constitution or
Speaker 1: something did a podcast about this.
Speaker 3: Case, and they did it like live. I mean, it
Speaker 3: was like I remember Aneneus with the trial that was
Speaker 3: going on. Yeah, it was like if you were listening
Speaker 3: to a Karen Reid thing, like while it was happening, right,
Speaker 3: it was so good and I felt like, I forget,
Speaker 3: what's the guy's name? It starts with a J, Like, oh, Jared,
Speaker 3: wasn't his name?
Speaker 1: Jared? The dad?
Speaker 3: Yeah, started definitely started with a J. But what I
Speaker 3: don't think it was Jared?
Speaker 1: You mean the dad, the ugly dad. Yeah, the dad
Speaker 1: who left his kid in the car.
Speaker 2: Yes, while he would so if you guys don't remember
Speaker 2: the case, it was back in like two thousand and
Speaker 2: fifteen or something, and he was researching websites of you know,
Speaker 2: being a single being a single dad.
Speaker 1: He just got married not that long ago.
Speaker 2: They had a two year old named Cooper, and he
Speaker 2: was supposed to take Cooper to daycare and instead he
Speaker 2: went to work and.
Speaker 1: Then Justin Justin Justin Ross, Justin Ross. Yeah, yeah, left.
Speaker 2: His kid in the car while he was at work.
Speaker 2: But while he was at work, he was sexting. Well,
Speaker 2: I think you know the case better. The thing with
Speaker 2: this documentary is they were more doing it. I think
Speaker 2: from the ex wife's point of view and her point
Speaker 2: of view was taking it easy on her ex husband,
Speaker 2: so and kind of like sticking up for him.
Speaker 1: Yes, now here's the thing that's a little bit weird.
Speaker 3: So when I first I just want to take you
Speaker 3: back to when I first listened to that whole podcast
Speaker 3: and I was like, this guy is guilty.
Speaker 1: I think he did it on purpose.
Speaker 3: Now, then we had Mark Geragos on our podcast, and
Speaker 3: this was back in the other studio. I remember we
Speaker 3: were in the egg Carton. I remember that, and I
Speaker 3: mean he was like or maybe we weren't in that.
Speaker 3: We probably weren't in the egg carton place, but I
Speaker 3: just remember him saying, you are exactly who like I
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to have on a jury, right because white
Speaker 3: women like I forgot why it was. But like, of
Speaker 3: course you think he's guilty. But I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I think he's guilty because I listened to all the
Speaker 3: facts in the case, and he seems guilty.
Speaker 1: Now, then I re listened to the whole.
Speaker 3: Thing and this is like a while ago, and I
Speaker 3: was like, well, now I'm not one hundred percent sure
Speaker 3: that he did it on purpose purpose, but either way,
Speaker 3: he still should have gotten jail time for it because
Speaker 3: he's and Okay, what they did was they showed you
Speaker 3: a bunch of different people in this documentary that have
Speaker 3: also left their kids in the car, accidentally left their
Speaker 3: kids in a car. But in my mind, I'm like,
Speaker 3: that wasn't exactly the case with this guy. Justin yes,
Speaker 3: some of the facts were the same, Like, Okay, they
Speaker 3: had people on there going, well, this is how it happens.
Speaker 3: You do one change in your routine and like you,
Speaker 3: he went to go have breakfast with his son instead
Speaker 3: of dropping them off at daycare, Like this is how
Speaker 3: people their brains.
Speaker 1: You know, you just go into your.
Speaker 3: Automatic pilot autopilot, right, Okay, but I'm kept waiting and
Speaker 3: waiting and waiting. John's watching the documentary with me, and
Speaker 3: He's like, this is horrible.
Speaker 1: This is so sad.
Speaker 3: It's constant people that are like crying and telling you
Speaker 3: the story of when they left their kid in a
Speaker 3: hot car and they died.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, It's like this is torturous watching this. And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I'm like, get back to what just is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it wasn't the same, which is why he
Speaker 3: got a jail sentence.
Speaker 1: It was not the same thing. Facts of the.
Speaker 3: Case with justin were that he was on all these
Speaker 3: like websites, he was doing all these chats with women. Yes,
Speaker 3: he acknowledged to his wife before this that he has
Speaker 3: a pornography addiction, right, Okay, so his wife was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: so he's that's why we're not having sex because like
Speaker 3: I'm on porn all the time.
Speaker 1: But he was one of these like religious guys that
Speaker 1: like gets a friend. He yes, he's going to monitor
Speaker 1: his porn. I know, that's so ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going to like have to check in with
Speaker 3: me and if like you watch porn, you need to
Speaker 3: like tell me or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we're on the Buddy system. Right.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, I was watch porn after watching that. Okay, so
Speaker 3: this guy's watching porn all the time. And then he
Speaker 3: apologizes and he's like I'm trying to like be better
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 1: That's his excuse to his wife why they're not having sex.
Speaker 3: Right, But she seems to feel that they're other than
Speaker 3: the fact that they're not really having sex.
Speaker 1: He's like a great husband. He's like a really good dad.
Speaker 3: They spend a lot of time in the documentary show
Speaker 3: you like, oh my god, he loves his son so much.
Speaker 1: In fact, he parents more than I do.
Speaker 3: He's like, look at him taking his kid out like trigger,
Speaker 3: treating his.
Speaker 1: Kids playing guitar guitar for him.
Speaker 3: And he's like struck this little. I mean, of course, it's.
Speaker 2: Well, what did you make of the Okay, they said
Speaker 2: in the evidence that he looked at video at a
Speaker 2: video twice about the dangers of leaving an animal in
Speaker 2: a hot car, right, And they said that the reason
Speaker 2: why he watched that is because they did talk about
Speaker 2: that's their like biggest fears leaving their kid in the car.
Speaker 2: And also there was a whole campaign on television I
Speaker 2: guess that week or that month talking about, hey, it's
Speaker 2: the summer months, don't leave your kids, don't leave your
Speaker 2: pets in the car.
Speaker 1: So that they that's why they watched that video. So
Speaker 1: are you saying, like, so he's what do I make
Speaker 1: of that? As Yeah, I mean, he's not a valid
Speaker 1: like like it. The prosecutors were saying, yeah.
Speaker 2: The prosecutors were saying, look, he's guilty because he watched
Speaker 2: this thing twice. But with his defense was saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: they watched it because they it's been all over the news.
Speaker 2: It's June it's hot, blah blah blah, the dangers of
Speaker 2: leaving a kid in the car. She said that the
Speaker 2: ex wife said, we've had a conversation like that's our
Speaker 2: worst nightmare, which she made that comment to the cops,
Speaker 2: which made the cops be able to get twenty five
Speaker 2: search warrants for their house. Did you watch the whole
Speaker 2: thing because they show her in court.
Speaker 1: Testifying, Oh I didn't no, I turned it off. I
Speaker 1: know he got mad turn it off? Yeah so what Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they well you.
Speaker 2: Should watch it, yeah, because at the end they show
Speaker 2: her and she's like they're cross examining her on the
Speaker 2: stand and she's kind of defen trying to defend him
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Oh and also people.
Speaker 2: Were saying on the news they kept showing clips that
Speaker 2: there's something going on with her, that she was in
Speaker 2: on it too, like they maybe they planned it together
Speaker 2: to get rid of their kid, which that's like there
Speaker 2: were they were saying, like I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was Nancy Grace. It was one of those spinoffs of
Speaker 2: Nancy Grace, like those shows like yeah, right, she suspic suspicious,
Speaker 2: Like why is she chewing gum in court?
Speaker 1: Right? Right? Right?
Speaker 3: I definitely one hundred percent. Don't believe she had anything
Speaker 3: to do without. But I do think it's really weird
Speaker 3: that he was so he was weirdly into the kid
Speaker 3: in a like it was weird, and he takes them
Speaker 3: out to go eat. It's it was weird. All the
Speaker 3: circumstances surrounding, like why didn't he take him to daycare?
Speaker 3: Why did he take him to this restaurant? Meanwhile he
Speaker 3: takes him to breakfast. He's not paying any attention to
Speaker 3: him the whole time he was They looked at his phone.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is in the documentary because
Speaker 3: I was like more than halfway through it, and.
Speaker 1: He was on your phone. He was on his phone.
Speaker 3: That's why they call the whole thing fatal distraction, because
Speaker 3: he was on his phone the whole time, sexting with
Speaker 3: different people.
Speaker 1: While he was in chick file at with his kid.
Speaker 3: He was also visiting prostitutes. He was so busy with
Speaker 3: other women. There were like ten thousand texts or something
Speaker 3: on his head.
Speaker 2: And then they had a bunch of bunch of those
Speaker 2: women come and testify in court too, would they say,
Speaker 2: I mean, they didn't really show their testimony that much.
Speaker 2: They just showed, like one woman after another. They said
Speaker 2: that they they showed more of the defense, saying to
Speaker 2: these women like, well, he said he loved his kid, right,
Speaker 2: and she said yeah, he said that he would.
Speaker 1: Oh. One of the women said like, why don't you
Speaker 1: just wy Are you cheating on your wife? Don't you?
Speaker 1: He said, because I love my I love my son.
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose my son. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that's why when I re listened to the
Speaker 3: whole podcast, I was like, it could.
Speaker 1: Have been an accident.
Speaker 3: It was an accident, but he was like, it's like
Speaker 3: negligent what do you call it when it's like manslaughter? Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's man, I know that's negligent homicide, right, because you've
Speaker 3: killed somebody. Yeah, I mean he killed his son, right,
Speaker 3: he left him in a And but the fact too
Speaker 3: he went and got light bulbs on his lunch break.
Speaker 3: Well see that was the part that really that really
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, he he did stuff in such a
Speaker 3: way that it was so performative when you discovered that.
Speaker 3: It's because he went and he opened his car and
Speaker 3: put the light bulbs in there. How would you not
Speaker 3: the smell would have already They said, would have already
Speaker 3: been like crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah at that point, well, his defense was saying, and
Speaker 2: they took the jurors out to the parking lot to
Speaker 2: look at the car. But he's very tall, and he
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been He wouldn't have He just opened the
Speaker 2: door and threw it in and shut the door, and
Speaker 2: he wouldn't have been able wouldn't.
Speaker 3: And they showed Vinny landed of like the fact that
Speaker 3: you forgot left your kid in the car when you
Speaker 3: go back to your car, what did you do?
Speaker 1: It just never occurred to him. Yeah, because he's too
Speaker 1: busy thinking about pussy.
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing that is hard to forgive, is
Speaker 3: like that was all you thought about and all you
Speaker 3: were doing, and you were not at all concerned about
Speaker 3: your son.
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's the negligent part. Yeah, right right.
Speaker 3: I just think that went way beyond you know, they
Speaker 3: were trying to compare it to like this mom, the
Speaker 3: mom who was like, I'm kind of a helicopter mom
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah, and I do all.
Speaker 1: These things with my kid and no comparison.
Speaker 3: And then but this great thing happened and I drove
Speaker 3: to work and I left my kid in the car
Speaker 3: and the kid died, right, Okay, that's a tragic accident. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but like it didn't feel the same with this guy.
Speaker 2: With this guy, how about when he was when the
Speaker 2: cops show up on the scene and the lady cops
Speaker 2: yelling at him like like hey, like fucking give me
Speaker 2: your driver's life's like she and.
Speaker 1: He's like, I just lost my son, my son. Just
Speaker 1: he's like crying and wailing, and she's like, shut the
Speaker 1: fuck up, stop yelling at me. Did you hear that? Yes,
Speaker 1: I did get to that part. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But also when he's in the police station, he was
Speaker 3: totally calm and like not did not seek sad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of hot and cold. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And also they was old kar Dad, hot and cold
Speaker 2: card dad. And then also she was accused that she
Speaker 2: did not react the way they thought she should have
Speaker 2: at the at the police station, like the first thing
Speaker 2: she asked for was where's my husband? My son's gone,
Speaker 2: but now where's my husband?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then she was like not mad at him
Speaker 3: at all. He was crying and going are you mad
Speaker 3: at me?
Speaker 1: And she was she was like we'll get through it, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you didn't do it. On purpose.
Speaker 2: It was an accident, right, That's why people questioned her.
Speaker 1: But I don't think she had anything to do with it.
Speaker 1: I think she was in shock. Yes, she was in shock.
Speaker 3: So she went to the daycare to pick up her kid. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then they're like what why do you think your
Speaker 3: kids here? And then she I think because that was
Speaker 3: a fear of hers because probably it had been in
Speaker 3: the news and it was probably like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: what if that happened to me? Like you get women,
Speaker 3: especially get shit stuck in our heads. Yes, when we
Speaker 3: have babies, right that like you see some crazy story
Speaker 3: in the news.
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh my god. Right.
Speaker 3: I remember one night I got really scared because I
Speaker 3: heard that not the vaccines could cause autism because I
Speaker 3: but I got really scared that there was some study
Speaker 3: and I don't want to trigger any moms of like
Speaker 3: babies out there, but I read I went down some
Speaker 3: rabbit hole that was like kids could die of sids
Speaker 3: after they get a vaccination, and I just got I
Speaker 3: had post part of anxiety. I somehow got really scared,
Speaker 3: and they couldn't go to sleep that night. The night
Speaker 3: after the vaccination. It was just like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: oh my god, and just super going back and forth
Speaker 3: to the crib and checking. I think that was with LB,
Speaker 3: not with the twins, but all of these things just
Speaker 3: like I heard about something and then I get read
Speaker 3: about google it, and then I was like, couldn't think
Speaker 3: about other things, and then I worried about that thing, right,
Speaker 3: So I've like that was probably something had happened in
Speaker 3: the news, and then she got really fucked up about it, obsessed.
Speaker 1: I think she was in shock. Yeah, but weird that.
Speaker 3: But there was another thing that he was on a website,
Speaker 3: on a Reddit thing for child.
Speaker 2: Free, like child free. Yeah, yeah, they say about that.
Speaker 2: They brought that up. The prosecution brought that up.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's like, it really wasn't that great of
Speaker 2: a documentary. It was just, you know, I thought it
Speaker 2: was going to be more about him and the trial
Speaker 2: and that was it, but it was more about like
Speaker 2: other people their stories, and then they go back to
Speaker 2: his story.
Speaker 3: And all how this could just happen to anybody, and
Speaker 3: like he was basically railroaded, right, And I'm watching it
Speaker 3: and with John and I'm just like, this.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker was not rail roaded.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did this to himself, right, and he's acting
Speaker 3: really weird. He was acting way weirder than she was
Speaker 3: wise acting weird. He was very very calm at times
Speaker 3: and like super like not bothered. I don't know, it
Speaker 3: was weird and I don't like that guy.
Speaker 1: I don't like they overturned his he out of jail.
Speaker 1: He's got to say that. And the thing I think
Speaker 1: at the end, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: feel like he should have spent more time in jail.
Speaker 1: That's just my opinion. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yay, Hey, I meant to ask you. Yeah, well
Speaker 3: two things. One I think I said told you this
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. But I asked you if
Speaker 3: you watched The Ultimatum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I started watching. I keep forgetting about it because
Speaker 2: I started watching it. There was other Oh I watched
Speaker 2: the Idaho murders things on Netflix.
Speaker 1: Oh, lots upsetting. That was sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yours really following that when it was going on?
Speaker 1: Who the Brian Kolberger thing? Right? Yeah, well yeah, now
Speaker 1: he's saying he wants another trial. Now he won. There's
Speaker 1: no back seats, Ryan Colberger. Oh, you can't like take
Speaker 1: it back. You can't. You can't be like l L
Speaker 1: G JK, I'm not guilty. Yeah, he's now wants another
Speaker 1: trial like.
Speaker 3: Fuck that So wait, but so he pled guilty? He
Speaker 3: pled guilty or was he already sentenced? He was saying
Speaker 3: he's sentenced to life. He pled guilty so he didn't
Speaker 3: have to face the death penalty.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so he got life sentence. So he got
Speaker 1: a life sentence.
Speaker 3: And now he's like and now he's hold up, yeah,
Speaker 3: hold now, so fast up outa.
Speaker 1: Door, Hold up, wait a minute. Yeah, no, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: that's he's in the news recently because he's saying he
Speaker 1: had like ineffective counsel or he's also hinting that there
Speaker 1: could have been somebody else involved in the murders or whatever.
Speaker 1: He clearly is guilty. Oh my god, he's going to
Speaker 1: try to blame somebody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, come on, I mean, is there anybody
Speaker 2: out there that thinks he's not guilty? If you watch
Speaker 2: the documentary, there you see his car coming in and out,
Speaker 2: his phone extraction had him in the area, and then
Speaker 2: he turned his phone. I mean that alone, plus his
Speaker 2: fucking DNA was on the knife sheath, plus on his
Speaker 2: online he was he bought that same knife on Amazon,
Speaker 2: same knife he used. I mean, the only thing we
Speaker 2: don't know is why, what was the motive?
Speaker 1: That's the only thing.
Speaker 3: But wasn't didn't we already find out that he was
Speaker 3: taking like criminology or whatever, and they felt like A
Speaker 3: wanted to get away with murder.
Speaker 1: He's never yes that those are theories, but nobody He's never.
Speaker 3: Said, Hadn't he said to somebody though, like I could
Speaker 3: totally get away with murder?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think he did.
Speaker 2: I mean I think he before he did the murders,
Speaker 2: I think he was he did some kind of survey
Speaker 2: or questionnaire like if you murdered, this is anonymous, but
Speaker 2: if he did a murder, how'd you feel afterwards?
Speaker 1: Or how'd you pick your victims? Like that? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: mean really he did like that. And he was taking
Speaker 1: criminology at Washington State and he was a weirdo. And
Speaker 1: you know, there's all.
Speaker 3: These hates closed like any serial killers, like what motive
Speaker 3: do they have?
Speaker 1: I like killing? Right? It seems fun. He's just not
Speaker 1: happy and I have an urge.
Speaker 3: It seems like a good idea, like would it like
Speaker 3: you're not serial killers?
Speaker 1: Aren't? Like Oh I had to get back at this
Speaker 1: bitch for something, right, right? Listen?
Speaker 2: I mean he could have diden the perfect murder if
Speaker 2: he didn't leave that sheaf behind. It could have been
Speaker 2: because there was no blood in his car, no blood
Speaker 2: found in his car? How's that happen? But they show
Speaker 2: a route if you watch the documentary, they show that
Speaker 2: he didn't go straight back the route that he came.
Speaker 2: He took a longer route, like through the woods in
Speaker 2: the forest, which is I'm guessing where he fucking cleaned
Speaker 2: his car and got rid of all the blood stuff,
Speaker 2: probably threw it in a lake somewhere, the knife and
Speaker 2: his clothes and yeah, so I think he almost got
Speaker 2: away the perfect murder, and he was going to do
Speaker 2: it again. And I think that he might have ran
Speaker 2: into one of the blonde girls at a restaurant and
Speaker 2: she gave him, you know, no mind, And maybe that's
Speaker 2: what I mean. Everybody's theorizing, but we do not know
Speaker 2: from him why, like what is the motive?
Speaker 1: But yeah, now he's like, yeah, I can't get a
Speaker 1: vegan lunch in jail because he's a vegan.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, they're mean to me in jail, like
Speaker 3: Andrew Tate too, And all of Andrew Tate's crazy followers
Speaker 3: are like, it's not fair, like he's not being treated.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know anything. I don't really know and
Speaker 2: about it. He's from England, right, I know that he's
Speaker 2: a despicable part. But I don't know really sex trafficker.
Speaker 2: Oh he was a sex trafficker. But he's in jail,
Speaker 2: right he's.
Speaker 1: In jail right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to put him in solitary because people
Speaker 3: were being mean.
Speaker 2: Oh, pro fucking jail, Like, what do you think it's
Speaker 2: not the comfort in.
Speaker 3: If it was the comfort in, that would honestly be
Speaker 3: a deterrent, that would be a better deterrent.
Speaker 1: Than just regular jail.
Speaker 3: Just be like, I'm just gonna lay on my cot
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to put any of my stuff
Speaker 3: on the floor.
Speaker 1: I got my pizza on a cardboard.
Speaker 2: How did you put your pizza in the in the
Speaker 2: microwave with no literally top of.
Speaker 3: The so there's like the glass plate, the glass thing
Speaker 3: that turns around. I had nothing to put it on,
Speaker 3: so I just put it.
Speaker 1: I just beare butt. Put it on there, put it
Speaker 1: on there. I needed to eat it. I was starving.
Speaker 3: I was like, there's no way I can fall asleep
Speaker 3: without any food.
Speaker 1: We had real slim pickens and there was no plate.
Speaker 3: I wasn't there's no there's no room service, there's no
Speaker 3: house like you.
Speaker 1: Had to go get a spork.
Speaker 3: Yes, I had to send John back down there. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, well, he well because he got this
Speaker 3: frozen fried rice. It's by like some off brand of
Speaker 3: like frozen food, not even like a Lian cuisine like
Speaker 3: that high end right, and he no fork. I was like, well,
Speaker 3: how are you going to eat it? He's like, fuck,
Speaker 3: you got to go back down. It's good luck with
Speaker 3: the smell in this place. Speaking of crime scenes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: Brian Colberger had gone through exactly.
Speaker 2: Like if he would have been had one night there
Speaker 2: and that was his you know, jail, he made I
Speaker 2: guarantee you.
Speaker 1: If we had one of those lights, the old those
Speaker 1: you know, the what do you call it luminol if
Speaker 1: it would have been a crime scene in the oh god,
Speaker 1: oh god, I don't know what's gone on in that room.
Speaker 1: Who stays at those places? Criminals?
Speaker 2: Probably right, well probably like yeah, people then have to
Speaker 2: you know, do sex work and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Probably yes, by the airport, all by the airport, guys
Speaker 1: that just want to you know, have a one night
Speaker 1: stand while they're stuck. I feel like.
Speaker 3: If I was a sex worker, I would I want
Speaker 3: to like, I would want to charge enough that we
Speaker 3: could do it at like a nice, nicer hotel yeah right, yeah,
Speaker 3: like a higher end, yeah, slightly, Like I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: waste all the money on like the highest end, Like
Speaker 3: I'm not going to like unless I'm like Heidi Flies,
Speaker 3: Like what a Heidi Fly's girls, right, and you're gonna
Speaker 3: stay somewhere nice. But probably my clientele at my age,
Speaker 3: I'm assuming, Yeah, you're not gonna get like the best guys,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Right, but you could go up a couple of matches
Speaker 1: in your hotel, I would.
Speaker 3: I feel like I would be travel much, yeah, like
Speaker 3: a trot like yeah, yeah, this place was next door
Speaker 3: to a motel six. Now I know, I'm saying that
Speaker 3: that was the grossest place I've ever stayed at that comfort,
Speaker 3: And I will say that when I was young, and
Speaker 3: we talked about this a few weeks ago as well,
Speaker 3: and we would go to Vegas, my girlfriends and I
Speaker 3: would stay at a motel six, right, because.
Speaker 1: We'd be like, it's so cheap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, back to like twenty bucks, yeah, you know, which
Speaker 3: you split like four ways, right, but you're but at
Speaker 3: the same time, you're like almost not in the room
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: No, you just go there and you pass out right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: back in when we were in our twenties. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: would stay at the like the shittiest hotels in Vegas,
Speaker 2: in like downtown Vegas, not on the strip.
Speaker 1: Right. Then when we got jobs in our twenties, then
Speaker 1: we would stay at like the Flamingo, yes, or the Rio,
Speaker 1: one of those.
Speaker 3: Where there was one that started with an eye, like
Speaker 3: the like Indo Chine or something.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, uh huh.
Speaker 3: It was like kind of in between, right, I think
Speaker 3: it'd have like an Asian theme. Yeah, but it was
Speaker 3: right in that but right by the Barbary Coast and.
Speaker 1: The Domingo right there. Yeah, we stayed at the Barbary Coast.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Barbary Coast had the best, like shrimp cocktails,
Speaker 3: the dollars from cocktails.
Speaker 2: Yes, two ninety nine Prime rim Yes, those were the
Speaker 2: fucking days.
Speaker 1: Those are the days. Vegas is not like that at
Speaker 1: all anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the days where you could go to
Speaker 2: Vegas and get prime River, you know, four dollars, yes,
Speaker 2: and shrimp cocktail.
Speaker 3: So okay, this is totally off topic, but because I
Speaker 3: was reading this book called Positively Fifth Street, which is
Speaker 3: by James McManus and it's his accounting of a crime
Speaker 3: that happened where Ted Binyon got killed in Vegas.
Speaker 1: He was the owner, he was the son of.
Speaker 3: The owner of the Binion, which is a downtown hotel
Speaker 3: where they did the World Series of Poker.
Speaker 1: That's like where it first started. They had these poker anyway,
Speaker 1: and Ted's sister ended up taking over these poker tournaments. Anyway.
Speaker 3: It's a really like fun book. And so Jim McManus,
Speaker 3: James McManus is the author of the book, but he's
Speaker 3: also a journalist. But the year he was going to
Speaker 3: do a story about this murder that happened, and it
Speaker 3: was the trial was happening, he also decided that it
Speaker 3: would be fun to also try to get in the
Speaker 3: World Series of Poker and report on that at the
Speaker 3: same time.
Speaker 1: So, wow, your two worlds are colliding, and my gook
Speaker 1: through crime and poker. I was in heaven. I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: This is all I did. Was I read all I
Speaker 3: read on the plane. I just read this book. I
Speaker 3: didn't listen to a podcast, I didn't watch anything on
Speaker 3: the way back. It's such a good book. But I
Speaker 3: was getting so like re excited about poker, and I
Speaker 3: was like, fuck, because you know it's illegal in California. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the online poker, you can't play it anymore. I think
Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom caused that. So then I was like, god,
Speaker 3: where can I go play poker? I'm like, I could
Speaker 3: try to have a game at my house, which I could, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that would be fun.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to play like a real, like a.
Speaker 3: Tournament of poker. So then our friend Robin Robin, she
Speaker 3: remember a year ago, it was basically almost exactly a
Speaker 3: year ago. I went to the Autism first.
Speaker 1: I remember that, and I played poker and I with
Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg. Yes, I remember, yes.
Speaker 3: So I was like, hey, when's that poker tournament and
Speaker 3: it's coming up. It's like literally in a week. But
Speaker 3: I think last time I got some in on some
Speaker 3: early bird thing and and remember I got like my
Speaker 3: ass handed to me by these guys.
Speaker 1: But you should agress. Yeah, but you'd got to do
Speaker 1: it again, I know.
Speaker 3: But you know what, it costs two hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: dollars to buy in, and I don't even know what
Speaker 3: you win.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't even think you win for charity.
Speaker 1: I know, but it's like that's a that's a chunk
Speaker 1: of change.
Speaker 2: And then also imagine who could be there this time.
Speaker 2: Maybe Dylan's there. He lives in la I know, per
Speaker 2: se Percy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you should come. I would go. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to play, but.
Speaker 3: Well, you don't have to play, and you could just
Speaker 3: come to the thing. It's like, all right, it's like
Speaker 3: a fun event. It's only one hundred and fifty if
Speaker 3: you're not.
Speaker 1: Playing, Okay, let's go. Oh so maybe we should just
Speaker 1: go and I won't play poker because oh you need
Speaker 1: to play, Stephanie. I don't know anyway.
Speaker 3: But either way, like a lot of those guys from
Speaker 3: the show will probably be there.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they will. So where when it's coming up again?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's at like the studios, like I think
Speaker 3: I was at the Mary Tyler Moore studios.
Speaker 1: That you know, it's like it's studio city. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like not that far. That would be fun.
Speaker 3: It was super fun, and you would you would come,
Speaker 3: like with me and Robin, that would be fun.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me, let me, let me okay, let me
Speaker 3: think about it. I don't know, but yeah, but I
Speaker 3: was getting all excited. I was like, I want to
Speaker 3: be playing poker. He really goes through all his hands
Speaker 3: and so spoiler alert, he buys into a satellite game
Speaker 3: which is like one thousand dollars, but he wins. He
Speaker 3: basically wins his way wins a seat at the at
Speaker 3: the main event, which is ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: But then he plays the main event and he ends
Speaker 3: up at the final table, which and he's just a journalist,
Speaker 3: like he's not a professional booker player. So he's going
Speaker 3: through all the hands that he gets, and he's playing
Speaker 3: against these really famous like major poker players like TJ.
Speaker 1: Cludier and you know, I mean not Doyle Brunson, because
Speaker 1: I think he was probably dead by then. But what
Speaker 1: year was this. It was in the nineties. How fun?
Speaker 1: That sounds like the greatest book ever.
Speaker 3: It's such a good book. It's very fascinat what's it called.
Speaker 3: It's called positively Fifth Street. And I'm Facebook friends with him,
Speaker 3: so I'm like, I got to go back and talk
Speaker 3: and tell him, like how much I re enjoyed his book.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it felt brand new to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, all right, well listen, let us say hi
Speaker 3: to our friends once again. We got Katie's rolling on
Speaker 3: the e yeah, and christ to get the strap, and
Speaker 3: Sandra's not easy being green. Aaron, She's dirty, Sanchin and
Speaker 3: Leslie stop coffee, Alice Escalade, City of All Monday, Kelly Brandt,
Speaker 3: Cheez your aunt, Rebecca Nobay, so have.
Speaker 1: Us smack that ass. Missy and Gabby are in in
Speaker 1: Vegas at the time. They're trying to join the tournament
Speaker 1: from the nineties. Yep, Katerina, check your molar.
Speaker 3: Valerie hits it out of the park, Polly and your syrup.
Speaker 3: Syrup Rita's rocking that basinette with all of Elizabeth Williamson's kids.
Speaker 1: Nikki call your girl, Dick, you're frolicking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we did all of the business shout outs.
Speaker 3: So just to remind you, Adam's got a car, but
Speaker 3: we mentioned that earlier with.
Speaker 1: That second card. Yeah, okay, love you guys your parent now,
Speaker 1: don't have it up.