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Speaker 1: Is there ever a reason to do that?
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Speaker 1: It was just like when we were in Vancouver and
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Speaker 2: We are quite intimately familiar with Calgary, so we kind
Speaker 2: of know our way around, and a bunch of the
Speaker 2: CEO dude bros that are coming are going to have vehicles,
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Speaker 2: around than to have to rely on people like that.
Speaker 2: We usually have to rely on people to like bring
Speaker 2: cars or be chauffeurs or whatever. Yeah, We're going to
Speaker 2: have a lot of the supplies ourselves, so it's going
Speaker 2: to be a lot easier, which makes it a lot
Speaker 2: smoother and more fun at the experience.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking forward to like kind of being We
Speaker 1: are always kind of the host of the event, but
Speaker 1: it's going to be kind of fun to be like
Speaker 1: the host in it city that we know. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we can show youse guys a good time in the
Speaker 1: same way that the nation has shown us over.
Speaker 2: The last few years in the cities that you guys
Speaker 2: are from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's exciting. I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: The tables tune yeah yeah, yeah. Okay, So with all
Speaker 2: that being said, we have in front of us the
Speaker 2: legendary Creach from the Dusk Morn pre cons. Now we
Speaker 2: have eight of them, kind of a like the main
Speaker 2: one and then the backup one. Yes, and I think
Speaker 2: the main ones are three three colors, No, because they're
Speaker 2: one of them, there are two or three colors, and
Speaker 2: we're just gonna go through and we're gonna take a
Speaker 2: quick look at the pre con. I have some questions
Speaker 2: about again that modern horror genre that Dusk Morn is
Speaker 2: kind of plugging the whole of don't google that and
Speaker 2: I want to pick your brain and I'm not seeing them.
Speaker 1: Like remember we talked on this overall set review. Well,
Speaker 1: just I'll just answer your question now. Sure. We talked
Speaker 1: about how like I said, this cit hit said, hits
Speaker 1: it so hard on the hand it.
Speaker 2: With with like with here are here are the tropes
Speaker 2: Annabelle and Jason and Freddy Krueger and saw like in
Speaker 2: a straw did with the classic horror like werewolves and
Speaker 2: vampires and Jacquelin Hyde, for example.
Speaker 1: I commented that maybe it might even be a little
Speaker 1: bit too on the nose. And these commander decks are
Speaker 1: kind of, in my view, the opposite where they they're
Speaker 1: just they're just commander decks.
Speaker 2: Oh they're they're they're just do you or do you
Speaker 2: see in the abilities or the arts of any of them,
Speaker 2: even if it's not a movie, do you see something
Speaker 2: like the weird House that's got like all the different
Speaker 2: doors and stairs and like the the eyes in the
Speaker 2: picture that move like on Scooby Doo, right, Like do
Speaker 2: you see that kind of stuff on any of this.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, that is all the esthetic is there? Okay,
Speaker 1: But like the specific tropiness that just permeates the whole
Speaker 1: set not really present here in my opinion, which I
Speaker 1: think hurts some of these decks because I think, and
Speaker 1: again top down view, I think these decks are a
Speaker 1: little a little generic, and when they don't have the
Speaker 1: flavor that permeates the set, I think that they were
Speaker 1: really relying on the arch Enemy gimmick or really sell
Speaker 1: this set. I was going to ask you emy, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't boy, because Arch Enemy in my again, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, I think Arch Enemy is a trash form
Speaker 1: and I'll never play it.
Speaker 2: Mm I tend to agree.
Speaker 1: I will never play our genemy again. I do not
Speaker 1: like it no matter which side I'm on. It's frustrating
Speaker 1: for the the one against the three because you always
Speaker 1: lose and the cards that they're printing in these sets
Speaker 1: aren't good enough to help you beat three actual commandment.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll decode that these four pre cons are balanced
Speaker 2: for gameplay against each other, as they always are. Now,
Speaker 2: when you get four precons, yeah, there is not one
Speaker 2: that is distinctly stronger that is always supposed to be
Speaker 2: the arch enemy. Correct that when so when you do
Speaker 2: arch Enemy, that one always loses.
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 2: Oh okay?
Speaker 1: And then if you and if you try it with
Speaker 1: like your actual tuned decks and just with the arch
Speaker 1: Enemy decks, that's even more apparent because like your decks
Speaker 1: are tuned to beat three other people, and when you
Speaker 1: only have to beat one and you have help, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you see you thought of it that way?
Speaker 2: It's funny that Plaine's Plane Chase is so beloved and
Speaker 2: you and I love it, and the way that we
Speaker 2: do it is is so unique and fun for everybody
Speaker 2: that we kind of meet and introduce to that format,
Speaker 2: and ourch enemy is just sucky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I could get the old arch Enemy cards
Speaker 1: and like mix them with these ones, I would actually
Speaker 1: or maybe if you have them, you could let us
Speaker 1: know how many Arch Enemy cards do you actively have
Speaker 1: to be a to play during a turn to actually
Speaker 1: make you a threat to other to three other players?
Speaker 2: Let us know in the comments, let us know if.
Speaker 1: You've done it or you've ever tried it, Like we
Speaker 1: made Plane Chase better by changing the format, yes, so
Speaker 1: that we like it better. Maybe people have done that
Speaker 1: with our chenemy.
Speaker 2: Let us know if you need a refresher on our
Speaker 2: way to play plane Chase. We've done episodes on it
Speaker 2: in the past, but it might be good to do
Speaker 2: a modern take on it. Yeah, so let's look at
Speaker 2: the first commander.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Winter cynical opportunist sounds like me. Yeah. This is a
Speaker 2: two to five human warlock for Green Black two with
Speaker 2: death touch when Winter attacks Mill three cards. Cool, Okay,
Speaker 2: so it's doing Gulgari stuff already, death touch and milk.
Speaker 2: It's got delirium. At the beginning of your end step,
Speaker 2: you may excel any number of cards from your graveyard
Speaker 2: with four or more card types among them. So four
Speaker 2: different card types. If you do, put a permanent card
Speaker 2: from among them onto the battlefield with a finality count
Speaker 2: on it. So each turn, I'm going to maybe mill
Speaker 2: card types, sure, and then I'm going to probably reanimate
Speaker 2: one of them. I'm probably gonna have to supplement that
Speaker 2: self mill and we're gonna see some of that in
Speaker 2: the pre con. But this guy isn't speaking to me
Speaker 2: with a whole bunch of authority or power.
Speaker 1: No, he's And you have to do delirium over and
Speaker 1: over again. We talked yesterday. I don't really like delirium
Speaker 1: because it's like a weird hoop and it's kind of
Speaker 1: a luck based hoop too, because you've got a mill
Speaker 1: into certain types of cards at all.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying now? There is the deck
Speaker 2: building cost of delirium is certainly there. Mostly we can
Speaker 2: get around it, especially if we're smart with our scryfall
Speaker 2: searches and we search for like artifact land right, or
Speaker 2: artifact creature or enchantment creature, and we can find all
Speaker 2: of these different card types. Yes, that's a deck building
Speaker 2: cost though, and and maybe we make some concessions if
Speaker 2: we find that if we're tooking, toking and tweaking and
Speaker 2: tweeting this deck, we find that it starts to work worse,
Speaker 2: which I think would happen if if we did that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that winter cynical opportunitists, as especially
Speaker 1: as the face commander of this deck is just's if
Speaker 1: you're gonna do dredge, which kind of he's sort of
Speaker 1: begging to do.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, play the netro Bloom.
Speaker 1: You get an extra color and a deck that's really
Speaker 1: really good, fucking good.
Speaker 2: Thanks to Uncle Brando and producer Gary not even telling
Speaker 2: me that my cup was still on the table.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're welcome.
Speaker 2: Let's look at the other commander for this deck, because
Speaker 2: it's actually good.
Speaker 1: I really really like this. Okay, this one's might I
Speaker 1: think this one might actually be my favorite.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you want to give him a read?
Speaker 1: I want to frand Ma. The Creaking Nest is a
Speaker 1: five to five for five legendary artifact creature scarecrow.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Whenever oh medics in reach Madison reach. Yeah, because he's
Speaker 1: scary and tall. Yes, whenever randomr Creaking Nest enters the battlefield.
Speaker 1: Wait what? And whenever you play a card with two
Speaker 1: or more card types. Yes, each player creates a tapped
Speaker 1: two two black bird creature token with flying The tokens
Speaker 1: are goaded for the rest of the game. So here's
Speaker 1: why I like that. It's a scarecrow commander that's actually good.
Speaker 1: So you don't have to play Reaper King, yeah, which
Speaker 1: is really cool. It encourages you to play scarecrows, which
Speaker 1: are artifact creatures, because they'll always make a bird.
Speaker 2: That's I didn't think of that, but yes.
Speaker 1: Again, because you're playing scarecrows, you're making crows that are
Speaker 1: then scared to attack you. Right, So there's a little
Speaker 1: story in there, and it's got a really cool art
Speaker 1: on it. I really like that. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: i'd build it because there's not enough really good scarecrows
Speaker 1: yet that I'm gonna gonna do it. But man, that
Speaker 1: that's a cool card, and scarecrows are printed. Boy, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a cool deck.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something. There are scare there's at least
Speaker 2: one scarecrow man rock, and there are two scarecrows or
Speaker 2: a scarecrow in an equipment that have the untapped symbol
Speaker 2: in them. And you could play necrotic Ooze in here,
Speaker 2: and you could play that new Marvin the Puppet guy
Speaker 2: in here, and you could have a little bit of
Speaker 2: a scarecrow combo deck where you're also encouraging your opponents
Speaker 2: to attack each other.
Speaker 1: Each other up and then you're doing.
Speaker 2: Your own thing, trying to like wait it out and
Speaker 2: combo by giving them things to do to each other
Speaker 2: for free.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or hear me out, just play necroblu. I don't
Speaker 1: need any of that crow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you.
Speaker 1: Could, And that's kind of the thing better. But like,
Speaker 1: I feel like, if that's your kind of gimmick or
Speaker 1: your plan, you're there's better options, very recently printed, better
Speaker 1: options then than these ones. So I think overall, if you.
Speaker 2: Burp into that microphone one more time, I swear I
Speaker 2: am going to fucking put you through this table.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I think that overall, this
Speaker 1: deck is just not to the level that I've come
Speaker 1: to expect of WATSI when they're building.
Speaker 2: I got I got one, even I'll do you one better.
Speaker 1: I think it's just.
Speaker 2: I I agree, And also I feel that way of
Speaker 2: the entire Gulguri color identity, I don't think it's very good,
Speaker 2: and I don't like the direction it's been taken in.
Speaker 2: I think that if you want to do graveyard stuff,
Speaker 2: just use black and save yourself the money and the
Speaker 2: mana and the shit that you got to do. I
Speaker 2: think if you want to make mana, black is fine,
Speaker 2: and green can do it, and green can mill, and
Speaker 2: black can mill yourself. In both regards, they both can reanimate.
Speaker 2: But when you put them together, it's like, oh, why
Speaker 2: do I I gotta do this thing and jump through
Speaker 2: this thing and do this other stuff when really All
Speaker 2: I want to do is make creatures play green. All
Speaker 2: I want to do is reanimate big guys play black.
Speaker 2: Why do I have to like mill three cards and
Speaker 2: just get I guess it's the dirty value engine that
Speaker 2: I just don't like. It's the reason I don't like
Speaker 2: monol artifact decks, because it's just like, I'm gonna tap
Speaker 2: this and do this and do this, do this, and
Speaker 2: oh okay, at the end of my eight minute turn,
Speaker 2: I put one plus one on my guy and I'm
Speaker 2: tapped out and I milled two cards and go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel the same way about Gilgari as I
Speaker 1: do about is it?
Speaker 2: Ah, they're just kind Is that what that feels like?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just uninteresting and I I, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: So I think, and I think that this deck is
Speaker 1: a very solid example of that. It's just well, nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with it. It's just no, not exciting when we
Speaker 1: look at the.
Speaker 2: Deck too, and again not a knock on the deck
Speaker 2: if you like it, but when we look at the deck,
Speaker 2: when you add up all the value of the cards
Speaker 2: that are in it. Now we're not the command's owner.
Speaker 2: We're not doing an hour and a half breakdown per deck.
Speaker 2: It's not what we're doing. This deck's one hundred and
Speaker 2: nine bucks Americans.
Speaker 1: That's like three hundred Canadian Yeah.
Speaker 2: Every other deck is like one hundred and fifty, one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty, one hundred and forty. Right, every other
Speaker 2: deck is more expensive than this one. And I think
Speaker 2: a lot of the times that has to do with
Speaker 2: the power level and diversity of the commander and the
Speaker 2: decks that they can lead outside of the pre Con.
Speaker 2: And also because of the power level of the commander,
Speaker 2: that makes the pre con more powerful.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, so let's move on. Let's move on to what
Speaker 2: do we got here? Do you want to do the
Speaker 2: valgav Off deck?
Speaker 1: The Endless Punishment? This is our This is WATSI tries
Speaker 1: to do groups slug without giving you any of the
Speaker 1: group's lug stuff. I think I'm gonna Brando's hot take
Speaker 1: number two.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 1: This is a very badly built deck.
Speaker 2: Did anybody hear his shoulder crack when he did that?
Speaker 1: Ah? That felt great. I felt really good. This deck
Speaker 1: is very very badly done. And the reason I say
Speaker 1: that is because I play this deck in Mono Red
Speaker 1: in my tour brand deck. You can check that out
Speaker 1: on my architect page.
Speaker 2: And we've probably done many mono red decks that you
Speaker 2: can put your stamp of approval on also.
Speaker 1: And what that deck does is it punishes your opponents
Speaker 1: for doing things because this deck wants your opponents to
Speaker 1: take damage on their turns, and then it gives you
Speaker 1: no tools to do that.
Speaker 2: Well, let's read the two command It gives.
Speaker 1: You everything that you want to play in Ractose Lord
Speaker 1: of Riots, including Ractose Lord of Riots. But it's not
Speaker 1: the same. It's not the same. You know, you don't
Speaker 1: want to hurt your opponents. Sorry, In Ractose, you want
Speaker 1: to hurt your opponents on your turn to make your
Speaker 1: stuff cheap. Yes, and that's what this deck can do.
Speaker 1: In Valgavath, the deck that you just bought at the
Speaker 1: store and you play, you want to hurt them on
Speaker 1: their turn, and they didn't give you near enough tools
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna read them. The full art one that
Speaker 2: you get with the pre con I think might be
Speaker 2: in the running for best art in the set. A
Speaker 2: very very cool piece of art there. This would make
Speaker 2: an excellent big card in Studio Cco at my house. Yes,
Speaker 2: shout out to anybody who can get me that four
Speaker 2: four elder Demon for Red Black two flying ward pay
Speaker 2: two life. Sure, that's not even a ward. Really, I
Speaker 2: have lots of life. I don't care. Whenever an opponent
Speaker 2: loses life for the first time during each of their turns,
Speaker 2: put a plus one counter on Valgavath Herror of Souls
Speaker 2: and draw card. So when they lose life on their
Speaker 2: turn yep, so I would be encouraged to do instant
Speaker 2: speed damage to them, or PingER damage to make leg
Speaker 2: or or sulfuric vortex to make them lose one life
Speaker 2: on each of their turns.
Speaker 1: Or there's man of b Yeah, the creature, the dinosaur.
Speaker 1: Whenever a creature comes into play, they take one. There's
Speaker 1: so many of those that they activate a manna or
Speaker 1: an activated ability that is into manna ability they take
Speaker 1: to Yeah, all that stuff, and there's barely any of
Speaker 1: it present here.
Speaker 2: There's not even a because it's on the reserve list.
Speaker 2: Forsaken wastes another price spike card, this one three percent
Speaker 2: increase in price from four dollars up to at its peak,
Speaker 2: twenty six dollars, and it's a players can't gain life
Speaker 2: enchantment for three from mirage and it says during each
Speaker 2: player's upkeep that player loses one life and if they
Speaker 2: target this they lose five life. Neat, So it caught
Speaker 2: this card. And what's the other guy's name? Not Valgavath,
Speaker 2: the Lord of Pain. Now that's a cool name. That
Speaker 2: is a cool this guy is is this supposed to
Speaker 2: be the Saw guy?
Speaker 1: Mojo?
Speaker 2: That's what's mojo from? That's an Austin Powers thing.
Speaker 1: No from from X Men. Mojo? He was this guy.
Speaker 1: He's like this international or intergalactic alien asshole that runs
Speaker 1: like a Okay, play video, play dangerous sports and die
Speaker 1: for real on TV. Oh that's still that's sort of
Speaker 1: what that's the vibe I'm getting on this.
Speaker 2: This is giving me the Saw vibes, like Jigsaw vibes.
Speaker 2: I'll read them. And because he kind of cares about
Speaker 2: the same thing, he's a five to five menace. Opponents
Speaker 2: can't gain life for five sure rachtels and three Whenever
Speaker 2: a player casts their first spell each turn, choose another
Speaker 2: target player. Lord of Payin deals damage equal to that
Speaker 2: spell's man of value to the chosen player. So if
Speaker 2: we had both Valgevath and Lord of Payne out, they
Speaker 2: cast a spell somebody takes damage, I draw a card
Speaker 2: and put a plus one on Valgabath.
Speaker 1: Because they have to take damage. They have to take
Speaker 1: damage on their turn. So when they play a card,
Speaker 1: somebody else takes damage, you don't get shit.
Speaker 2: Choose another target player.
Speaker 1: Oh here, here's what I know.
Speaker 2: I cast a spell on your turn, and I choose you,
Speaker 2: and then I put a plus one and draw card
Speaker 2: and this guy deals damage to you.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: So I gotta have both of those out. To do
Speaker 2: both of those things, I gotta spend nine man on
Speaker 2: two cards of my deck.
Speaker 1: And then play cards from your hand at instant speed.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of it's a lot of jumping through
Speaker 1: a lot of hoops.
Speaker 2: And I like a lot of the words in the
Speaker 2: arrangements that they're on on these two cards. I think
Speaker 2: that they're good cards.
Speaker 1: Yes, but are they? And here's here's what I don't
Speaker 1: like about Lord Pain is it's not a may And
Speaker 1: when there's only two of you left and you have
Speaker 1: to pick somebody that isn't the person that played the spell.
Speaker 1: What happens when it's just you and me and you're
Speaker 1: playing the Lord of Plane? I love that, and I
Speaker 1: time Stretch. Oh oh right, well.
Speaker 2: If you time stretch you probably win. Or Lava What
Speaker 2: if I lava ax you I take ten?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: You know what in the pre show a couple days ago,
Speaker 2: I said that I like when cards take a known
Speaker 2: thing and take us in another direction, or maybe the
Speaker 2: opposite direction. You brought up Ractose Lord of Riots. I
Speaker 2: want you to take damage on my turn to make
Speaker 2: my creatures cost less. Yeah, in the same color combination,
Speaker 2: and maybe with a lot of the same cards. I
Speaker 2: could do Lord of Pain or Volgevath, and I care
Speaker 2: about you taking damage, but on your turn it's the
Speaker 2: same thing, but the opposite. And that makes them different decks.
Speaker 2: So to compare them is like kind of not fair.
Speaker 2: Even though they look they look the same.
Speaker 1: I'm comparing them because the cards selections for both the
Speaker 1: decks are very similar. Ah, That's why I'm comparing them.
Speaker 2: Ah. So like like blood Artist, blood Seeker, like Aristocrats,
Speaker 2: and when you play something you take damage like a
Speaker 2: like a Mayhem Devil And what's the other one, harsh
Speaker 2: mentor right, like those cards would maybe be in rack
Speaker 2: Doose decks. We've got a Ractose Lord of Riots in
Speaker 2: this deck. Which, man, you don't have noticed a lot
Speaker 2: about these pre cons. Tell me and and maybe did
Speaker 2: we say this on the show already or is it
Speaker 2: just you and I talking about this off air? Is
Speaker 2: you see like these hundred and some dollars reprint values
Speaker 2: and it's tied up in a few cards that equal
Speaker 2: like maybe forty dollars, And then because you've got one
Speaker 2: hundred more cards or ninety six more cards that are
Speaker 2: all between twenty and seventy cents, it's like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: the deck is one hundred and forty two dollars of value.
Speaker 2: Like I'm going to trade in every single basic land
Speaker 2: and actually get money for it. Like, no, that's not
Speaker 2: how this works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not how you do it. The value for
Speaker 1: your money is in the playability of the deck, and
Speaker 1: that's what I've been saying. I feel like these are
Speaker 1: kind of lacking. I really do. I'm not saying you're
Speaker 1: not worth it to buy. This is a very novel
Speaker 1: idea for a deck. Ryan is right, but out of
Speaker 1: the box, it doesn't do the thing, and it says
Speaker 1: it does. Bro.
Speaker 2: They got massacre girl, massacre worm. They got some hitters
Speaker 2: like feed this warm bedevil, blood packed No, that's not
Speaker 2: what am I thinking of grave packed. That card's good,
Speaker 2: that's a good card. Yeah, they've got some good cards
Speaker 2: in here.
Speaker 1: There's some there's some good stuff, right like it's it's there.
Speaker 1: It just it doesn't when you read the front of
Speaker 1: the box and it it says endless punishment, it doesn't
Speaker 1: do a lot of punishing. This isn't a punisher deck.
Speaker 1: It's just a rac doose deck.
Speaker 2: Maybe with some tweaks it would be right.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you could build this now that there's a commander
Speaker 1: to do, Like I'm gonna do damage to you on
Speaker 1: your term, I'm gonna get value for it. Now that
Speaker 1: there's commanders to do that, you and I or you
Speaker 1: out there can do it. Right, You could totally build
Speaker 1: these decks. But WATSI didn't do that for you.
Speaker 2: I want to try and find something that we can
Speaker 2: say about these that's positive and and well. And maybe
Speaker 2: the only thing so far is if you scro guys awesome,
Speaker 2: If you buy all four of them, they will be
Speaker 2: balanced to play together. Sure, And a lot of the
Speaker 2: times I've found at our lgs and people do buy
Speaker 2: all four of them. That's true, right, Yes, So I
Speaker 2: guess if you're if you're planning to pick up pre cons,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe you say, like, oh, I'm not gonna buy
Speaker 2: my my booster box of play boosters and one pre con.
Speaker 2: Maybe I buy all four pre cons and play them
Speaker 2: together on game on game Night. Yeah, and then I
Speaker 2: just buy singles from Fusion for the rest of what
Speaker 2: I want to own from the set instead of trying
Speaker 2: to crack them from packs.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, maybe that's the solution.
Speaker 1: And for the record, also, we're not gonna go into
Speaker 1: individual cards because you don't have time for all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But the new cards that have been printed in these
Speaker 1: precons are ten per deck.
Speaker 2: Mm hm. Besides the arch enemy schemes or whatever they're called, yeah.
Speaker 1: They actually there are actually some cool ones. There's a
Speaker 1: rebound creature kill spell. Yeah, there's one that lets you
Speaker 1: play cards off the top of your library by paying life.
Speaker 2: Some of the door enchant MEAs your room enchantments are
Speaker 2: only available in the pre cons.
Speaker 1: And there's some really neat stuff in here. So it's
Speaker 1: not that they're not valueless, it's not that there's bad
Speaker 1: cards or they're bad decks. I just think that they've
Speaker 1: set a certain bar, a certain standard, a certain expectation
Speaker 1: and they didn't meet it this time. They just didn't.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you have to not compare these pre cons
Speaker 2: to the modern horizons three pre cons. You can't do that.
Speaker 2: It's not what we're doing.
Speaker 1: No, not at all.
Speaker 2: But with slight correction, Commander exclusive no pre con exclusive
Speaker 2: rares can be got in collector boosters, right, yes, okay,
Speaker 2: so we could get them in the three hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty dollars product instead of buying all of the pre
Speaker 2: cons for two hundred and fifty dollars. Yeah, because excitement.
Speaker 1: Yes, if you want to have less excitement, but all
Speaker 1: the cards, you could certainly buy the decks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. We've talked about that, especially like with
Speaker 2: Doctor Who when when every single card in the entire
Speaker 2: set was in the pre cors.
Speaker 1: Just buy them and get them and you have them
Speaker 1: and that's awesome. Yeah. Next up, this one. This is
Speaker 1: my least favorite of all of them.
Speaker 2: Man, I thought, frick, I thought, we hit your least
Speaker 2: favorite already, We're going this is the one.
Speaker 1: This is the one that scrapes the bottom of the
Speaker 1: shitty bucket. This deck sucks.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is another zimone one with the prime
Speaker 2: numbers and stuff.
Speaker 1: Right, she can take a long walk up a short
Speaker 1: hill and just roll down the other side into a
Speaker 1: bear trap.
Speaker 2: Man like, I will read her just in case. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: Human Wizard blue Green two three three with Landfall. Hey,
Speaker 2: look at that. Whenever a land enters a battlefit under
Speaker 2: your control, uh, manifest dread that is mill two. Put
Speaker 2: one into your graveyard, manifest the other one. Okay, it's
Speaker 2: a two two face down creature that can be turned
Speaker 2: face up for it's manocost if it's creature, correct, Okay,
Speaker 2: if it's the first time a land entered this, turn,
Speaker 2: that's what you do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sugars wants to turn. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Otherwise you may turn a permanent you control face up.
Speaker 1: Cool awesome, So.
Speaker 2: Landfall manifest a guy face down or turn something face up?
Speaker 2: Morph it, I guess right, Radical guys this okay.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see another morphed deck.
Speaker 2: Can I have a Can I have like a the
Speaker 2: lucast of warm takes like this is this is sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm not talking into the mic. This is like a
Speaker 2: day old coffee temperature.
Speaker 1: Okay, It's like that pizza we earlier.
Speaker 2: This is a lead singer Commander front of the Commander
Speaker 2: pre con deck box for Dusk Moorn House of Horror
Speaker 2: that goes in the ninety nine of your fifteen year
Speaker 2: old morphed deck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go, dang, it's not good. No, that's not a
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 2: No landfall morph though that's pretty good. No landfall if
Speaker 2: this is in the ninety nine of my morph deck,
Speaker 2: and I can go like landfall morph and give all
Speaker 2: your like do the thing that my and some of
Speaker 2: the best morph cards came out in, like onslaught, Like
Speaker 2: if I can morph, bounce your guy, or if I
Speaker 2: can morph, put a permanent onto the battlefield, if I
Speaker 2: can morph give something protection, then attack with like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there are reasons to landfall and free morph your guys.
Speaker 2: Of course, like that's good, and this ought to go
Speaker 2: in the ninety nine of your morph decks.
Speaker 1: But keep in mind, keeping in mind, you have to
Speaker 1: have two lands come into play before you can do that.
Speaker 1: It's not one or the other. The first one you
Speaker 1: manifest dread, then you have to have another land come
Speaker 1: into play in order to morph something.
Speaker 2: Ooh, this got way worse.
Speaker 1: Of course it did, because this is a bad This
Speaker 1: is a bad card and a bad deck let's read
Speaker 1: the other one, because it's even worse.
Speaker 2: It's worse.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's even less exciting. We saved the best one
Speaker 1: for last.
Speaker 2: For the record, Kianni corrupted memory two to two for four.
Speaker 2: We're starting out strong illusion. It's it's blue green two.
Speaker 3: As long as Kiyani Kiyani kan Kiani Kiani sure power
Speaker 3: is even if okay, as long as Kiani's power is even,
Speaker 3: you may cast non creature spells as though they had
Speaker 3: flash yep, okay, that's good.
Speaker 2: So natively it's a flash enabler for my spells. Sure,
Speaker 2: as long as Kiyani's power is odd, you can cast
Speaker 2: creatures as though they had flash. M hmm, okay, that's good.
Speaker 2: Whenever you draw card out, there's the semic bullshit. Put
Speaker 2: a plus one counter on it. Sure is there room
Speaker 2: for more bullshit in semic bullshit? I suppose there always is.
Speaker 1: There could be. Pretty soon the whole deck will be
Speaker 1: so much bullshit you won't even know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: People will damn so much bullsheited of their deck they
Speaker 1: won't even do anything. Those have a bunch of two
Speaker 1: toos for fucking four, That draws them five cards. That's
Speaker 1: what they'll have oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two twos for four.
Speaker 1: Hey, like, like, who even why is this a legendary creature?
Speaker 1: Why is this a fancy card in the commander? This
Speaker 1: is so not good? Like it? And when you look
Speaker 1: at the deck list, like, it's not exciting. There's not
Speaker 1: a ton of amazing creatures you're gonna we got.
Speaker 2: We got a Shageky that's a powerful card. We've got
Speaker 2: an augur of Autumn that's powerful. There's powerful cards in here.
Speaker 2: We got a scoot Swarm that's good card. There's good
Speaker 2: cards in here that enable landfall.
Speaker 1: But you know what's better than morphing a scoot swarm
Speaker 1: just playing the fucking scoot Swarm and then playing a
Speaker 1: land and getting a bug that's better.
Speaker 2: Or getting like ten lands? Is there anything? Hey, there's
Speaker 2: a world spine Worm in here. That's a good reprint.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 2: There's a biomass mutation. You like that card, don't you know?
Speaker 2: Oh there's a rampant growth in here.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Now that's powerful magic. If there's a Manolith
Speaker 1: in here, I'd be rock hard, just like Data Roach.
Speaker 2: Yes, very much so. New new art for Cackling counterpart.
Speaker 2: I know you like that card? Instance, speed clone your guy,
Speaker 2: that's a good one with flashback. But if the most
Speaker 2: excited we are is about a new art on cackling.
Speaker 1: Counterpart, the deck has failed.
Speaker 2: I don't think the deck has achieved what it ought
Speaker 2: to have.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it this is this deck sucks. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm so unimpressed with every facet of this deck.
Speaker 2: Dig through time, I play that card, I play that card.
Speaker 1: But you know what, it doesn't make the deck good.
Speaker 1: It makes it kind of not good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, if you need the experimental Lab staff room
Speaker 2: and you don't want to crack collector boosters, you could
Speaker 2: always get this brecon.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that card does.
Speaker 2: We're gonna move on, Yeah, we are.
Speaker 1: This the final one, though the final one is a
Speaker 1: This is a good one, and we were talking about
Speaker 1: it before we started the show with a Miracle Worker deck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: helmed by our girl Amanatu and the crazy Ghost Lady
Speaker 1: that we're gonna talk about is very good. This is
Speaker 1: a cool deck that brings back a type that I
Speaker 1: think was one of those unsupported Kindred decks. We'll say,
Speaker 1: right like, I want to play the Miracles deck, but well,
Speaker 1: there's not very many miracles. You have to jam them
Speaker 1: all to get the flavor in, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And some of them are not things that you'd
Speaker 2: want a miracle all the time, because when Miracle was invented,
Speaker 2: let's say, Commander wasn't a thing, right like, and Terminus
Speaker 2: is a great card, but like the Miracle Man entreat
Speaker 2: the angels. Yeah, is that one that I want in
Speaker 2: my deck all the time, because it's not very good
Speaker 2: if I don't miracle it the take an extra turn one. Sure,
Speaker 2: an extra turn is fine, but in a deck that
Speaker 2: isn't dedicated to combo or dedicated to aggro or dedicated
Speaker 2: to taking extra turns. One extra turn in your three
Speaker 2: color deck that isn't a combo deck might just be
Speaker 2: like drawn extra card, play an extra land. And it's
Speaker 2: only good then if you miracle it, right Like, So,
Speaker 2: I don't think Miracle is that good in Commander unless
Speaker 2: they give us more incentive to play Miracle and or
Speaker 2: they give us more Miracle cards. And we got both
Speaker 2: of those with this deck.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I think that that is fantastic. So I
Speaker 1: think that this one is the best one, Okay, And
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna play any of the shit that's in here.
Speaker 1: But I'm really happy that like five colored Mono at
Speaker 1: Angelira and is definitely gonna play this stuff. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so we're a bunch of people that are watching and
Speaker 1: listen right now, and that makes me happy. Yes, this
Speaker 1: is the one that people are gonna get excited about
Speaker 1: and they're gonna buy it because they always wanted to
Speaker 1: do a miracle thing or they love enchantress things, and
Speaker 1: now you can do effing both on one card.
Speaker 2: All right, So Aminatu Veil piercer AVP black blue white
Speaker 2: one two four Human Wizard. Last time we saw Amanatu,
Speaker 2: she was a planes walker. Now she's just a little girl,
Speaker 2: just a girl with a stick YEP at the beginning
Speaker 2: of your upkeep surveil two already a fine effect. Sure,
Speaker 2: each enchantment card in your hand has miracle. Its miracle
Speaker 2: cost is equal to its MANI cost reduced by four colorless.
Speaker 2: And what that means is you may cast a card
Speaker 2: for its miracle cost if you drew it and it's
Speaker 2: the first card you drew this turn. Yea, So how
Speaker 2: how that looks or what that is is? Okay, you say, go,
Speaker 2: it starts to be my turn. I untap my lands,
Speaker 2: I pick up my first card in my hand like this,
Speaker 2: and I go, it's a miracle card, and I put
Speaker 2: it on the table and play it for its cheaper
Speaker 2: miracle cost. Like let's say I picked up a smothering Tithe.
Speaker 2: I can go draw, don't touch it, or shuffle it
Speaker 2: into my hand. I draw it, and I say, smoothing
Speaker 2: tithes for its miracle cost, which in this case would
Speaker 2: just be white, which is really good card, especially because
Speaker 2: I can get chaff out of the way and draw
Speaker 2: that smothering Tithe with her first ability. Surveil two and
Speaker 2: I'm in the surveil colors. I'm in the skry colors.
Speaker 2: I'm in the you also have white, I'm in all
Speaker 2: of the removal and interaction colors. I'm in the top
Speaker 2: deck manipulation colors. I'm in two of the three best
Speaker 2: enchantress colors. Right, I'm missing green, but black is I'll
Speaker 2: take it sure, Right, this card is a good card.
Speaker 1: I had an azorious deck for a little while that
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do so badly with it was
Speaker 1: have it be an enchantment, an enchantment deck that didn't
Speaker 1: play dudes, because all the enchantments make dudes and it
Speaker 1: functioned fine. Yeah, but the one issue I always ran
Speaker 1: into with it was these enchantments. I'll start at four, five,
Speaker 1: six manna and like, yeah, I had no play for
Speaker 1: the early game, whereas here that would totally solve all
Speaker 1: of my problems.
Speaker 2: In this case, you spend four mana one time and
Speaker 2: then all of your five drops cost one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's you just built a deck like that, right, You're
Speaker 2: you just built a grul deck that has all the
Speaker 2: expensive enchantments that start at five and six Nana do
Speaker 2: all the crazy stuff that you would expect a five
Speaker 2: and six mana enchantment to do.
Speaker 1: But they're also four to four indestructibles with haste that
Speaker 1: draw me a card when they hit you.
Speaker 2: Yes, So if if you take that kind of power
Speaker 2: level or that kind of altitude of what can five
Speaker 2: and six men enchanter enchantments do lots, let's just make
Speaker 2: them cost one.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also good. That's also pretty okay, Let's read
Speaker 2: the other one, because if this one's good and the
Speaker 2: other one's better, that means this next one is freaking
Speaker 2: the best one.
Speaker 1: Now, this one is i will say, arguably more powerful
Speaker 1: than Ammonatu. I think Ammanatu is more fun and interesting. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's that's what I think. Not as fun and interesting
Speaker 1: the Scarecrow guy, but fun and interesting. I like Ammanato
Speaker 1: more than I like that I think of Keys.
Speaker 2: I think Ammamatu Ammanatu might be top three favorite. Sure,
Speaker 2: I like that Lord of Pain, and I like Master
Speaker 2: of Keys the most. Okay, okay, black Blue, White x
Speaker 2: GEZ for a three to three legendary enchantment creature horror.
Speaker 2: All of that's relevant enchantment and creature, and it's a horror.
Speaker 2: So all the things that care about horrors could go
Speaker 2: in this deck if you didn't want to make an
Speaker 2: enchantment deck.
Speaker 1: I can't even get it with talks real bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bullshit flying. When Master of Keys enters put x
Speaker 2: plus one counters on it and mill twice x, that's
Speaker 2: all the words I like. I like every single one
Speaker 2: of those words. I mill two times X. What like
Speaker 2: what if X is? If X is three? So I
Speaker 2: pay six mana for this it becomes a six to
Speaker 2: six flyer where I mill six right, and each enchantment
Speaker 2: card in my graveyard has escape. The escape cost is
Speaker 2: equal to the card's mana cost plus exile three other
Speaker 2: cards from my graveyard, and you can cast the card
Speaker 2: from your graveyard when you pay its escape cost. This
Speaker 2: and you might have heard of it is an esper
Speaker 2: colored underworld breach in your command zone. Dang. And anybody
Speaker 2: who knows the power of underworld breach, whether they've lost
Speaker 2: to it, because you probably have or beat somebody with it,
Speaker 2: because you probably have exactly knows that this is frickin'
Speaker 2: good because it doesn't go away at end of turn
Speaker 2: and it has upside over and above underworld breach. Other
Speaker 2: than costing more manna than Underworld breach, it's a trade
Speaker 2: off because it's a flying creature that also facilitates the
Speaker 2: strategy and.
Speaker 1: Gives you more colors. And it looks cool and it's
Speaker 1: got rad ard. Yes it's also cool.
Speaker 2: I would also want this big card, yes, very creepy.
Speaker 1: I would like just like that picture.
Speaker 2: Of a probably probably a nice foil to hit, especially
Speaker 2: with the enchantment border. Like this enchantment border that a
Speaker 2: little bit of a different treatment they do. Looks good
Speaker 2: and foil. This card is frickin' good and is the
Speaker 2: reason for the the booster Pac game we played on
Speaker 2: the pre show on Monday, we were hinting at a
Speaker 2: card that spiked in price and it was called and
Speaker 2: it's called second Chance. I own this card. It's from
Speaker 2: Urza's Someone at the Hammer Destiny. I don't care Legacy, Legacy,
Speaker 2: second chance, Blue two enchantment. During your turn, if you
Speaker 2: have five or less life, sacrifice second chance and take
Speaker 2: an extra turn.
Speaker 1: Neat.
Speaker 2: So I'm playing black, and I have things like hatred
Speaker 2: and ad nauseum and necropotents and anything that lets me
Speaker 2: pay life to do stuff. Bullus is citadel. I just
Speaker 2: put myself the five tutor for my second chance. Let's
Speaker 2: face it, this is the fucking deck. I put it
Speaker 2: into play, and I take an extra turn when I
Speaker 2: sacrifice it because I'm at below five.
Speaker 1: And then you make the joke who says you only
Speaker 1: get one second chance?
Speaker 2: I don't know what joke that is Zephyr a movie.
Speaker 1: That's the joke because you only get one second chance, right,
Speaker 1: you only get one chance to make a first impressions.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I got a second chance, to take a
Speaker 1: third second chance and a fourth second chance.
Speaker 2: So what I do is with what I do is
Speaker 2: with all of this uh cards in my graverar that
Speaker 2: I milled because my commander put them there. I exile
Speaker 2: three of them and get the second chance back. So
Speaker 2: on my extra turn, I can take an extra turn. Right, Well,
Speaker 2: I have to do it before my second turn because
Speaker 2: this triggers during my upkeep, so I got to do
Speaker 2: it before my extra turn. But the point is is
Speaker 2: you can take infinite turns with this in a in
Speaker 2: a deck where you're facilitating that strategy because you're milling
Speaker 2: yourself and you have all the tutors, and you have
Speaker 2: the ways to limit your life total down to nothing. Right,
Speaker 2: and as if it's only black that can do it.
Speaker 2: What's that legend that where you swap your power your
Speaker 2: life total and its power. You put yourself to four
Speaker 2: because it's a four to four or whatever, the tree
Speaker 2: of Pradition. I didn't even think of that one, but
Speaker 2: we could use that one.
Speaker 1: Also.
Speaker 2: That one puts you to thirteen.
Speaker 1: I think that's not low enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirteen, and then I only get to draw like
Speaker 2: eight cards with nec repotents hey man to combo for
Speaker 2: infinite turns? Yeah? Oh fuck? What was me? So? I
Speaker 2: like this one the best. I think it's got obviously
Speaker 2: like the highest power potential. Yes, and and the coolest
Speaker 2: kooky build. Like I called Rebecca into the office last
Speaker 2: night and was like, look at this stupid card that
Speaker 2: I've owned since nineteen ninety eight that I've never done
Speaker 2: anything with except like use it to keep a table
Speaker 2: from wobbling, And now it's spiked up, like doubled in
Speaker 2: price because it combles with this stupid card here that
Speaker 2: like I already liked doing the things that this wants
Speaker 2: combo mill bullshit. And and she was like, whyeah, you're
Speaker 2: a nerd.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna yeah, I'm gonna leave the room. Why
Speaker 1: did you make me come in here?
Speaker 2: And I had a gay old time. So that's my
Speaker 2: final thought of the day.
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell a story is my final shot
Speaker 1: of the day. So I cracked a couple of packs
Speaker 1: over the New weekend. Yeah, crack, that's insane.
Speaker 2: Was it on a BBO?
Speaker 1: It was not.
Speaker 2: Is it going to be No, we are going to
Speaker 2: have a bach supposed to say? Yes?
Speaker 1: No, the BBO is going to be a little bit
Speaker 1: later this time. Yes, because I'm going to do it
Speaker 1: with a box. We talked about it on the pre show.
Speaker 1: So check out on Monday where I've got some plans.
Speaker 1: So if you're waiting for the Dusk Borne one, it
Speaker 1: is coming, but it's going to be a little bit
Speaker 1: later on in the month of October, a little closer
Speaker 1: to Halloween. Sure, here's the story. I'm cracking a couple
Speaker 1: of packs. I opened my first room, okay, and I
Speaker 1: gives it to Sam. It's my girlfriend.
Speaker 2: She's sitting next to me, very nice lady.
Speaker 1: And she looks at it and what do you want
Speaker 1: me to do with this? And I says, what do
Speaker 1: you think of it? So it's like, why is it sideway?
Speaker 1: Because that's how they put the cards, that's how they
Speaker 1: make those. Yeah, these are stupid and I hate them.
Speaker 1: And she just threw it on the You just threw
Speaker 1: it down on the couch.
Speaker 2: And I was like, does she know you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, It's like, this is why we're together because
Speaker 1: we were the same. It's it's very good.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: So I like that a lot. So that's my whole thing.
Speaker 1: I actually, like I said, I'm let down by these commanders.
Speaker 1: We talked about these two great commanders. The deck itself
Speaker 1: is fine.
Speaker 2: There's a couple great commanders in the pre cons and
Speaker 2: there's certainly a lot of interesting, fun and cool cookie
Speaker 2: commanders generally in Dusk Moore, and that I'm excited to
Speaker 2: see and get lists for. So send them into the discord,
Speaker 2: get on the Patreon if you're a disc if you
Speaker 2: want to get onto the discord.
Speaker 1: So these commander decks, I would argue, are great for
Speaker 1: us because they give us some hints and some tools
Speaker 1: to build new crazy shit. Yep, they didn't necessarily do
Speaker 1: it for us, which is fine.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: I'm totally cool with a little bit less handholding. But
Speaker 1: again we said they set a certain barn reach it
Speaker 1: this time. But they made better.
Speaker 2: Give me give me forty card pre cons where they
Speaker 2: give you half a manabase, half the cards you need,
Speaker 2: like the staples that need reprinted and the new commanders,
Speaker 2: and make them like fifteen bucks and then and then
Speaker 2: I can finish them myself. Give me that. That's give
Speaker 2: me that. With these kinds of decks where it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I want some of the new ones. There's a couple
Speaker 2: of good reprints, there's some mega bomb ass Masters of Keys,
Speaker 2: and let me get them for cheap. Give me that.
Speaker 2: That's again, that's a good one. Like that see we're
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Speaker 1: Make sure you send to put my name on there too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and some of that I want some of that watching money.
Speaker 1: So that's that's it. Is that it. We're going to
Speaker 1: be back to talk about deck lists. Keep them coming in.
Speaker 1: We've got your decks for producer Gary.
Speaker 2: Those are the Borols decks that you're.
Speaker 1: Going to learn to play on. We've got a couple
Speaker 1: of good ones that I think he's really gonna like.
Speaker 1: We've seen a few in the discord already for decks. Desks,
Speaker 1: decks from dusk morn. Jesus, that was twisted. I must
Speaker 1: have been talking for too long today. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it might be time to go home and play.
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Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing, and we're going to be back
Speaker 1: next week. To talk, decks, cards and have a whole
Speaker 1: lot of fun, And a very special episode of Commandager
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