WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.399 You're listening to episode seventy seven of Game Spot after Dark. 2 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:05.679 On this week's episode, we talk about hit Man three 3 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:23.679 and all of the resident Evil announcements. Hello and welcome 4 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:27.559 to episode seventy seven of Game Spot after Dark. Joining 5 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:31.359 me this week is Callie Plaguey Hello, Tomorrow's saying. 6 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:34.600 Hi, and Jean Luke Sydke Hello. 7 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:35.000 Hello. 8 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:38.320 It is kind of a busy week this week. 9 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.399 There's the first big release of twenty twenty, and we 10 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.520 plan on talking about that quite a bit. But before 11 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:46.119 we do that, we're going to talk about what we've 12 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:47.920 been playing a little bit. CALLI do you want to start? 13 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:54.600 Sure? In addition to continuing Personify Royal, in which I'm 14 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:57.039 about I'm a little over eighty hours into that now, 15 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:01.359 I've been playing more Animal Crossing. My biggest thing lately 16 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:05.400 is that I am about to complete my catalog, so 17 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:09.599 I will have crafted every item in the game, collected 18 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:10.920 every single item in the game. 19 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:13.120 Goddamn. 20 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:17.359 I have literally two more items left. One of them 21 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:20.159 is just something I'll get from next time Gulivar visits, 22 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:23.680 and then I need to craft the Aquarius Urn. It 23 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:27.760 just switched to Aquarius season yesterday and I still need 24 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:31.200 the golden shovel, but that's not catalogical, so it doesn't count. 25 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:36.760 And I'm very eagerly awaiting news about the update that 26 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:39.480 was promised. There's supposed to be a late January update. 27 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:42.000 If I am not mistaken, it's beginning to look a 28 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:45.400 lot like late January. So I would really like to 29 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:48.879 know when we are getting fest of All, which is 30 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:54.040 the holiday that was teased. So you know, I'm just 31 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:58.599 keeping up. I'm staying on the beat, looking out decorating 32 00:01:58.599 --> 00:01:59.079 my island. 33 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.719 What do you think this is like late a late 34 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:03.840 part of a month. Do you think it's the twenties onward? 35 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:04.120 Yeah? 36 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:06.439 Yeah, I would say like the third and fourth week 37 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:07.920 is like later in the month. 38 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:10.800 So I split, like most months are what thirty days? 39 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:14.439 So I split it from fifteenth onward. 40 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.560 Yeah, that's late for me. Two halfsh okay for me. 41 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:18.400 I could see that too. 42 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:20.800 Ten and then you got twenties and then you got 43 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:24.120 the thirties, So like, no, zero's than the tents. I 44 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:25.960 don't know how numbers work, you know what I mean? 45 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:28.879 Every ten every ten days? Yeah? 46 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:34.560 Yeah, definitely like the older I get, the shorter months 47 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:37.840 feel and the sooner the late part of the month 48 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:39.719 seems to come like it feels like it was just 49 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:42.199 January second the other day. Now it's the twentieth. So 50 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.159 you know, anyway, Timorro, what have you been up to? 51 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:48.759 I have been doing the same thing that I was 52 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:51.479 doing last week, which is playing Sekio. I'm still like, 53 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:55.759 I've got one trophy left till I can platinum it, 54 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:58.560 and I'm like, I'm getting most of the way there. 55 00:02:58.560 --> 00:02:59.759 I think I'm going to get to the point where 56 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.280 I make a decision soon. Whoever, I want to get 57 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:05.439 all the skills a scale, all the skills and I so, 58 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.879 how did you do it? Uh? 59 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:10.400 There was a path I found. 60 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:13.479 On like New Game plus plus or something that you 61 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:15.159 could run over and over again that would get you 62 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:16.159 a lot of experience. 63 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:18.319 I can show you after the podcasts. But that's what 64 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:18.719 I did. 65 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:22.080 What really screwed me over, though, was that I invested 66 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:24.080 in the mask. And if you invest in the mask, 67 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:28.360 that like that costs a lot. I think, like, I 68 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:30.759 don't remember the math, but basically I remember that because 69 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:34.039 I did that, I had to like grind an insane 70 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:35.439 amount more because of that. 71 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:38.159 Yeah, so I have got a root, So I'm getting 72 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:41.400 getting there. But it's just I've got a lot of 73 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:44.479 points to get through. And yesterday I was thinking about 74 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:46.199 it and I was like, you know, what would have 75 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.360 been good for this if Xbox Snap was still a thing, 76 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:51.719 that would have been so good work. I just like 77 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:53.319 have this on the side or like I don't know 78 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:55.919 why PlayStation doesn't have it as well, like have like 79 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:58.080 Netflix on the side and I could just run it. 80 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:01.280 At one point, I experimented with playing Securo on my 81 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:05.879 iPad using remote play, and I spoke last week about 82 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:09.639 Xbox remote play, which worked almost flawlessly, like it was 83 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:12.520 I was playing Yakuza on my phone using my Xbox 84 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:16.439 controller and it was great. Yesterday I loaded up Securo 85 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:19.439 on my iPad using a dual Shock four controller and 86 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:23.759 it worked. But the PlayStation, like the networking system, it 87 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:25.839 really struggled with it. Like it kept telling me my 88 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.000 battery was low on my controller when it wasn't, and 89 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.959 it kept like changing video qualities and there was a 90 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:34.680 little bit of latency input delay. 91 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:37.920 So like now I've just ordered. 92 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:42.040 A very large iPad stand, so like it's literally it goes. 93 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:45.120 It's like it's like a it's like a light stand. 94 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.160 So I put it on the floor and then there's 95 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:49.319 like an arm that stretches all the way up, and 96 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:51.439 I put the iPad in front of me. So basically, 97 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:55.000 I'm gonna sit on my couch with an iPad hovering 98 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:57.120 in front of me and then the TV in the background, 99 00:04:57.759 --> 00:04:59.759 and I'm just gonna watch stuff on my iPad and 100 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:03.319 I'm going to play Secura on the background and where 101 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:04.480 is my life anymore? 102 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.000 But then you could put somebody on the iPad and 103 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:08.399 then it could be like you a friend next to 104 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:09.519 you because it's very tall. 105 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:12.480 Oh yeah, exactly, That's what I'm saying. That's a good idea. 106 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:14.879 So I invested in that and and get that. So 107 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.279 I still I'm not one hundred percent sure whether I 108 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:19.839 want to get that platinum. I'm just working towards it. 109 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:23.759 But you know, like I said last week, like having 110 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:26.199 one platinum is more of a statement than having two. 111 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:27.519 But I don't know. 112 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:29.920 I'm also kind of like I just want to kind 113 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:32.800 of do the thing and say I completely secret to 114 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:36.480 it its entirety. And I completed it on Saturday twice, 115 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:40.240 like I played it through twice, which was wild, Like 116 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:42.560 I was like, let me just see how many times 117 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:44.360 I can complete this game in a row, and I 118 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:45.279 just went through twice. 119 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:48.600 I was like, damn, I even process that when you 120 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:50.680 first said it, Oh my god. 121 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:56.879 But yeah, I was just like destroying bosses left friend center. 122 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:59.160 Have you ever thought about speed running the game? 123 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.000 I have thought about it, and then I'm like, it 124 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:05.639 stresses me out, like because you screw up one thing 125 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:09.000 and you're like done. And there's just enough variables in 126 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:12.879 secul where sometimes something will change and I and most 127 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.000 good speed runners will know, Oh, I know exactly how 128 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.560 this has changed, and I've got a strategy for compensating 129 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:19.839 for that change. Whereas if I do it, I'm just like, 130 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:22.439 fuck my life, why is this different now? 131 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:26.279 I don't know if I tried to speed run, but 132 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.079 I was streaming it a bit, and I found that 133 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.439 game very hard to stream because I was I don't know, 134 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:34.079 I was under It felt like I was under a 135 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:37.199 lot of pressure to do well in front of people, 136 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:39.480 and I don't know. That just didn't work because I 137 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.560 needed to focus on the game itself. But it was fun, 138 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.959 Like getting the bosses and just crushing them was yeah, satisfying. 139 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:48.439 I reached where in my second play through I wasn't 140 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:51.000 really listening to it either, like I had turned the 141 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.480 audio off and I had a podcast on, so I 142 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.800 was just listening to like Chop or trap House and 143 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:01.759 like various other podcasts and just like playing the game through. 144 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:04.079 So like I can. I think I can do it 145 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:06.480 on a stream where I don't pay too much attention. 146 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:09.639 But I just don't second as one of those games 147 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.160 where if you start streaming it, people just pay attention 148 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:14.399 to your performance in a way that's kind of annoying. 149 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:17.680 Like I am blessing streaming it currently and I jump 150 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:19.560 in there and I make a point of never being 151 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:21.959 like you need to hit it this way to try 152 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:25.360 and do this and telling him how to play. But 153 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:26.800 you do get a lot of people that I've seen 154 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.120 in other people streams, being like, you're not playing this properly. 155 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:30.759 You need to time, you're like this and you need 156 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.160 to go here. I'm just like, no, it's already a 157 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:36.600 stressful game and with high demand execution demand, stop stressing 158 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:37.560 people out. 159 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:39.360 Yeah, So I don't know. 160 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:42.600 I've reached a point where Sekura is relaxing for me now, 161 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:44.360 which is a strange place to be. 162 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:47.040 I get that though. 163 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:49.319 I remember returning to that game a lot just because 164 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:53.560 of the environments and that, I don't know, it's just 165 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:58.920 meditative once you get past that hump of the difficulty. 166 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:02.399 But anyway, the big game this week is hit Man three. 167 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:04.279 Jean Luke and I have been playing it. But do 168 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:06.560 you want to start with your overall thoughts on Hitman? 169 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:08.720 Now you Hitman Hitman. 170 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:13.480 Hitman, Hitman, and. 171 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:21.839 That's the title of the episode. But you previewed it 172 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:24.160 a couple months ago, not even a couple months ago, 173 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:25.279 like a couple of weeks ago. 174 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:28.240 Yeah, so yeah, what are your thoughts. 175 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:32.399 It's fantastic. I mean, I it's it's hard to like 176 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:36.720 divorce Hitman three from like the rest of it because, 177 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:40.240 like on face value, it's just, oh, it's like more 178 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:43.759 of hit Man like one and two. It doesn't necessarily 179 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.600 add anything new mechanically from two. I would say it's 180 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:49.919 very similar. So if you're going into that, you you 181 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:52.440 might be disappointed, But like for me, it's just like 182 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:55.240 it is a it's more of like a continuation of 183 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:58.360 like the same game that's now complete, is what it 184 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:00.840 feels like, which is like for the reinforced by the 185 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.840 fact that you can bring all those levels into hit 186 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:06.679 Man three. So when you load up the game, and 187 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.799 if you have everything, you're presented with this menu of 188 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:14.080 just like twenty something hit Man levels with like each 189 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:16.559 one has like sixty plus challenges and all this stuff, 190 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:19.919 and you're like, it's just the amount of hit Man 191 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:23.159 available to you is like it's so good. Like I 192 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:26.200 already I haven't started yet, but I want to go 193 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:29.399 back and like replay all the earlier levels and do 194 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:33.600 them all again, because I there's just something about like 195 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:37.200 the the clockwork nature of hit Man and the way 196 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:41.840 you can like just mess with those little like dioramas 197 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:45.399 of people doing their routines and you're, you know, throwing 198 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:49.519 a wrench in it. Like it's so satisfying. It's I 199 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:51.159 would say, like hit Man three on it so so 200 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:52.759 hit Man three on its sowing very good. Like the 201 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:57.039 levels are, the levels they've added are fantastic. I feel 202 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:59.399 like we've talked very extensively about the first one, which 203 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:01.080 is like Dubui, and the second one, which is a 204 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:05.399 murder mystery I talked previously, but even the other levels 205 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:09.799 after that, like the the third level is you're in 206 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:17.879 Germany and you're in a like an abandoned nuclear facility 207 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:21.440 that's been turned into like a nightclub, and it's just 208 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:26.720 the bet. Like you go inside and it's just this 209 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:30.679 like just blaring music and like strobe lights happening, and 210 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:34.000 you're in this massive crowd and just like the atmosphere 211 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.919 of the level is so fantastic. It's also a very 212 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.639 unique level in that you have five different people you 213 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:42.759 have to kill, but you don't know where they are, 214 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:45.879 so you have to like find their routes and learn them. 215 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:49.120 And they they can catch you no matter what disguise 216 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:51.360 you're in, but they won't catch you if you're hiding 217 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:52.799 in the crowd. So that's where you have to use 218 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:55.480 like the giant crowd of the the club to like 219 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:59.200 mask yourself. And there's a great kill where you like 220 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:00.879 pretend to be the j and you like. 221 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:03.360 I did that one. You can kill two of them 222 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:04.840 too by that, and it's so cool. 223 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:07.600 It's so cool. You have to like there you find 224 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.000 a thing that says, like, hey man, if you're a 225 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:12.679 DJ and you want to do like the big finish, 226 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:14.720 like you got to tell the tech team before because 227 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:16.759 it might go horribly wrong, So you have to like 228 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:19.600 you know, grab a wrench and like you mess with 229 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:21.360 like the the fuse and then you go in there 230 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:23.919 and you like hype up the crowd and they're all 231 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:25.879 like yeah, and then you're just like all right, I'm 232 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:29.039 gonna drop the base and then it like kills two guys. 233 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:31.639 It's incredible. 234 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:37.200 It's just so good. I mean, they're they're they're humor 235 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:40.279 in the in is like always been like so on point, 236 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:42.279 Like they do such a good job of of like 237 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:46.399 adding levity to what is like a very serious thing, 238 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:50.200 like you're murdering people, although you're murdering rich people who 239 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.879 are assholes, so it's it's fine. Can I say that 240 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:54.759 on a podcast? 241 00:11:58.000 --> 00:11:59.399 Just to add to that, I was gonna say that 242 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:03.120 the the levels are so good. I actually went back 243 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:05.360 and played some of the older hit Man levels and 244 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:06.759 they're all really good. 245 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:11.039 But you can just see the you can just see. 246 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:15.080 That io Interactive has mastered this formula in these new levels, 247 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:21.240 because all of them feel so perfect. You know, perfect's 248 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:25.360 like a weird word, but for what they're going for, 249 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:29.000 it seems like these levels just utilize everything that they've 250 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:32.639 learned up to this point, and it's just like a remarkable, 251 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:37.039 i don't know, like suite of levels. Particularly there's one 252 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.840 in Shanghai. That was just visually incredible and was just 253 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.399 a ton of fun in the way you explore that level, 254 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:46.720 the way you see different sides of that level, and 255 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:49.879 the way the level just expands in so many kind 256 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:53.519 of unpredictable ways, Like there's an entire underground facility that 257 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.159 you don't see until you hit a certain point in 258 00:12:57.200 --> 00:12:59.120 the level and you're like, oh, wow, I've only seen 259 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:02.720 I've only scratched this surface. And they do that constantly. 260 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:07.000 I'm I'm I'm super impressed by it, Like I had 261 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:07.600 so much fun. 262 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:10.879 I think these collection of levels are definitely my favorite 263 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:11.639 that they've done. 264 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:15.360 I would agree absolutely, Yeah like that, Yeah, like what 265 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:17.440 I said earlier about how like maybe like mechanically it 266 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:19.759 doesn't involve much, You're one hundred percent right Like there 267 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.159 it is like the peak of their level design prowess 268 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:28.600 and and sort of like their masterful like subtle storytelling techniques, 269 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:30.440 Like I think they get really creative with some of 270 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:34.240 the the story stuff you do, uh where you get 271 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:36.679 to you know, we talked about the murder mystery where 272 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:39.639 where I redid the murder mystery this morning and I 273 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:44.559 realized there's like multiple conclusions to the murder mystery, including 274 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:48.039 one where you like find just the right evidence to 275 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.759 make it be like, no, actually the guy did commit 276 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:53.720 suicide even though he really didn't, and you like get 277 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:56.440 the target to out of like cause she feels like 278 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:59.639 she's responsible for his death, Like she then commits suicide 279 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:02.919 herself out of grief, and that's how you finish it, 280 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:05.600 which is like super dark. But I was like, I 281 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:07.399 don't even know you could do that, Like it is 282 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:12.440 they they just go so above and beyond with this game, 283 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:17.600 and I really think, like, you know, like taken as 284 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:21.879 a whole, it's like, this is maybe my favorite one 285 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:24.000 of my favorite games ever made, like as a as 286 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.039 a I'm pulling the Return of the King, you know, 287 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:33.519 like situation where it's like it deserves the game of 288 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:36.120 the year for what it is as a whole thing. 289 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:38.799 Like when you take the hit Man World of Assassination 290 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:43.679 trilogy as one massive package. It is insane and how 291 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:44.200 good it is. 292 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:47.840 Yeah, hearing you guys talk about it and then reading 293 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:52.159 Phil's review has really made me want to play. It 294 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:53.919 was just one of those games like this happens to 295 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:56.200 be all the time where something will just like seem 296 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:58.559 really dude, bro on the outside, so I don't pick 297 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:01.799 it up. And hit Man was one of those I 298 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:04.960 just I had heard. I remember people talking about it 299 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.440 with the last installment, but and I was intrigued then, 300 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:11.279 but like now, I'm fully sold. The Murder Mystery thing 301 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:13.039 really did a lot of heavy lifting in that regard. 302 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.559 Uh So I'm definitely really excited to play it. 303 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:17.840 I need to. 304 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:19.799 There's a lot of games I need to go back 305 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:22.759 and play because the marketing was so dude browie, but 306 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:24.960 the game wasn't. And I not that the hit Man 307 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:26.799 market It's just you know, it's one of those things, 308 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:29.159 just no, it seems like it's not for me, if 309 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.559 that makes sense. Like I feel that way about Alan 310 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:33.320 Wake too, where I was like, this is just some 311 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:35.799 guy's name and I just never gave it a second butt. 312 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:37.960 And I totally need to play Alan Wake too, So. 313 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:39.159 Yeah, probably. 314 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:43.519 I remember when I when the first one was announced, 315 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:45.639 the first chapter in the war I was Fascination Trilogy, 316 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:47.600 and I did a preview for it, and I remember 317 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:51.200 writing my preview like I described that that game that 318 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:56.200 franchise as like a like an old elaborate clock, like 319 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:59.480 a grandfather clock, with like loads of gears and belts 320 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:01.679 and that kind of thing, and your job is to 321 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:05.600 just figure out which gear to jam your screw driver 322 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:09.919 into to see what happens, and like, that's that's what 323 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:13.200 that entire franchise is about now. And I think Kelly, 324 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:16.240 you will absolutely have a fantastic time doing that because 325 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:19.960 you start playing and you jam it in and you're like, oh, 326 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:22.679 there's these other gears over here that carried on turning, 327 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:24.559 and then you're like, oh, I didn't realize that this 328 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:27.279 Grandfather clock was set up so that this one gear 329 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:30.639 if you break it, it has various other fallback systems, 330 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:32.720 and you get to see what happens every time you 331 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:35.440 poke at a different corner of like logic and AI 332 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:39.039 and kind of game design and kind of routines and 333 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:41.279 that kind of stuff. It's just really fascinating. It's one 334 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:43.679 of those games that is good to just like go 335 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:46.919 into and just spend an afternoon just poking at it 336 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:48.360 to figure out how it works. 337 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.879 Yeah, and I think too if it like the story 338 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.559 by itself isn't all that interesting. Like I think the 339 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:59.919 third game or the final section of this ties up 340 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.080 some loose ends in some interesting ways, but it's not 341 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:04.039 really the main draw. 342 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:06.640 Like I, if you've ever played. 343 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:09.400 This Hitman trilogy and you can get all three, like, 344 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:11.920 don't play them in order play the ones that look interesting, 345 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:13.759 do you? Well, maybe play like the tutorial and first 346 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:15.559 level because they're a little smaller scale and you can 347 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:16.799 kind of understand what's going on. 348 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.119 But then honestly, I just hop around. 349 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:22.160 And play what looks interesting to you, because like, well, 350 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:24.279 I think all the levels are pretty good. There are 351 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:26.079 some that I think will stand out a lot more 352 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:29.599 to other people, like, for instance, Kelli, the the murder 353 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:34.200 mystery is probably more interesting to you than maybe like 354 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:36.599 a bank robbery one which they added, which is also 355 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:42.000 very good. So like, I don't know, Like the stories 356 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:45.480 they tell on those levels are so interesting and it's 357 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.880 cool how they interact with how you can kill people. 358 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:52.720 There was they speaking of like small stories. There's this 359 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:57.519 amazing little moment in the third mission, no a fourth mission, 360 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:02.240 the China one, where I needed to like tail a guy. 361 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:04.240 I was tailing this homeless man, and so I like 362 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:07.279 went over and I like blended in at this this 363 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.119 little like walkway, and there's a woman there and she 364 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.240 just starts talking to me. To forty seven about how 365 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:18.400 she's like waiting for this friend of hers in the rain, 366 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:21.559 and how she's mad that her friend isn't there, and 367 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:27.640 then they he basically like hit forty seven starts talking 368 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:29.640 to her about like, oh, like why are you waiting 369 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:33.000 for your friend? And and it turns into this thing 370 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:37.319 where like he basically like she feels upset about her friend, 371 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:40.599 and then he kind of is like consoling her and 372 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:43.119 kind of makes her think of her friend's perspective. Forty 373 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:45.279 seven basically turns into like a weird therapist for a 374 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.319 hot second where he's like talking to this woman and 375 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:51.359 the whole time, I'm like, is this gonna help me 376 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:54.599 murder somebody? Because like usually when they have stuff like that, 377 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:58.279 it's like they're trying to to set up like a murder. 378 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:01.799 I don't think it relates to anything, because it just 379 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:05.160 it was this full conversation where like forty seven just 380 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:07.920 like helped this woman and was like being a normal 381 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:11.000 person for a minute. And I don't know why that 382 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:14.720 like really stuck with me of like like they just 383 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:19.880 felt more free to to like get really weird with 384 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:22.559 it in this one in a way that like the 385 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:27.000 other ones have it, and that moment is just like okay, 386 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:28.599 like you're doing something interesting here. 387 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:30.720 This is actually a secret ending where it pulls back 388 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:32.759 and it's age on forty seven sitting on a couch 389 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:35.359 in front of two kids, and he goes and that, kids, 390 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:36.680 is how I met your mother. 391 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:40.759 The last time you did something like this, someone tweeted 392 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:43.119 at us being like, did you guys really just spoil Cyberpunk? 393 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:45.079 I was like, oh, it was a joke. 394 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:50.200 One other thing I will say, kind of to your point, though, John, 395 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:52.000 there is that I did find when I was playing it. 396 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:54.279 There were a lot of kills or. 397 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:58.000 Assassinations that that I didn't follow, like a mission in 398 00:19:58.079 --> 00:19:59.960 tel track, And of course I can. 399 00:19:59.880 --> 00:20:00.400 All the other ones. 400 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:02.680 You could do that too, Like basically, you'll walk up 401 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:05.440