WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:10.960 Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It 2 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:15.240 is episode one eleven. We are deep into that good, good, 3 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:18.879 hot hot summer. I'm Mike Mahardy, your host here as always, 4 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:23.320 with Mary kish Hi and Dan Riker. Yes, hello, you 5 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:26.519 see how I flipped it. Usually Mary's the disappointing sounding 6 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:27.160 one one night and. 7 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:34.320 Chetos way up. I've been eating orange tic tags. 8 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:38.880 Yeah, your tongue is fucking like like bile colored. 9 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:41.960 I love orange tik tags. 10 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:44.520 I can eat them every day and I do, and 11 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:45.880 they do change the color of. 12 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:48.640 My tongue universally. The favorite right the oranges. 13 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:52.880 That's the same exact flavoring as orange skittles. Wait, oh, 14 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:55.359 you've said that. I've said it before. Taste test them 15 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:55.880 next to. 16 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:57.320 When it's different. 17 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:01.240 Maybe the outer suck on them, suck on each one successively. 18 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:03.159 They're the same flavor skittle. 19 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:06.319 No, I think what you bite. I think that illusion 20 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:06.879 is shattered. 21 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:10.760 Yes, definitely, But I'm just saying whatever flavor, just. 22 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:13.120 Sucking on skittles. I fucking two those things me too. 23 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:14.840 That's the point of them. They're a good texture. It's 24 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:17.719 a nice kind of like a light crunch and then 25 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:18.879 a chewy center. 26 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:21.200 I feel like it's a good way to attack someone 27 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:22.560 is be like, go suck a skittle. 28 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:23.640 Good. 29 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:26.239 Yeah, I'm getting back in the Jolly Rancher game. 30 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.560 Nice whom you don't bite them, do you? 31 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:29.760 No? 32 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:31.680 So that's what's great about it is because you give 33 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:34.640 me a barrel of skittles, I'm just gonna fucking stick 34 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:37.120 my head in it until there's no more skittles. A 35 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.439 Jolly rancher, you don't have that option. You put one 36 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:41.359 in there, you're good for like ten minutes, and then 37 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:42.920 you've like you satisfied that sweet tooth. 38 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.680 So like that's the way, like candy brick, Yeah, maybe like. 39 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:47.599 Twenty calories there instead of two hundred and fifty of 40 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:48.519 a whole skittles gimmick. 41 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:52.560 You know, I'm impatient with hard candy and lollipops, took 42 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:56.120 totsy rolls, blow pops. I I can rarely just suck 43 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:57.920 on one until it's a nub. I have to crunch 44 00:01:57.920 --> 00:01:58.599 at some point. 45 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:00.599 Do you ever get the grody one on at like 46 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:03.599 vending machines or or the little gumball machines at like 47 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:06.159 the bowling alley, And there's those big ass gob stoppers 48 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:09.319 that were like you know, like yay, big, like a racquetball, 49 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:11.120 and then it's just like, I don't know, you can't 50 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:11.879 fit it in your mouth. 51 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:14.439 There's no blue red, the primary color. Flex. 52 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:16.400 Yeah, it'd be like white, but it would have the 53 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:17.240 flex yeah. 54 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:18.479 Yeah. And it's like, so what do you do? 55 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:20.439 You just fucking lick this thing for a while and 56 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:22.479 put it in your pocket and you got fucking popcorn 57 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:24.280 kernels and receipts all over it. When you pull it. 58 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:26.319 Out, you suck on it like a tennis ball. Well 59 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:26.719 you can't. 60 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:28.199 I used to try to put it in my whole 61 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:30.719 the whole thing in my mouth, and the Keiths blocket. 62 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:33.560 You gotta be like a leech on certain parts because 63 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:34.719 you go through. What do you do? You're not gonna 64 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:35.159 know one thing. 65 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:36.479 You put it in your carry on, a ziplock bag 66 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:37.319 for it, What do you do? 67 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:40.080 I used to carr around ziploc bags for them, really, 68 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:41.919 or we would get like two of them at Wegman's 69 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:44.680 and put them in one plastic bag and then start 70 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:46.479 one and store it in the plastic bag. Ti I 71 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:50.280 was ready to get sucking again. Or I don't know 72 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:51.280 what I would do with the other one, though, I 73 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:54.520 think my we must have had backup ziploc bags. 74 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:57.599 Did we touch on these in our candy tier list? 75 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:01.960 We had no dune jelly, right, yeah, we definitely did 76 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:03.919 Jolly Ranchers. What did we give. 77 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:09.759 Spot a Skittles star Burst and the strawberry guys that 78 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:10.520 your grandma has? 79 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.960 Oh those are I'm we were really. 80 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:18.120 Aligned on our candy opinions, I found. I think we 81 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:19.680 have very similar tastes in candies. 82 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:22.080 Yeah, sours. 83 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:26.080 Candies with a shell with like a chewy center, things 84 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:26.520 like that. 85 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:29.439 Yeah, the good good. 86 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:33.000 I've always been like such a sour head though, Like 87 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:37.439 I usually anytime I am able to purchase whatever candy 88 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:40.400 I want from a supermarket, I am going to probably 89 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:47.680 get like those sour strips, the sour rainbows, coke bottles, yeah, gummies. 90 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:48.280 Yeah. 91 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:52.000 Have you been to Japan? Oh yeah, yeah, Well you 92 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:53.599 know that they have the they have all the like 93 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:55.840 soda ones where it's like the roopier stuff with all 94 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:57.759 the specs on it and everything. Like, I think as 95 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:00.400 far as the sour candy game, Japan is like out 96 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:00.639 of us. 97 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.280 I think that they're they put all of their technological 98 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.639 advancements into toilet and candy and. 99 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:12.000 Cars but when we've been working TV games and we've 100 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:12.960 been worried about. 101 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:16.319 Drones and tanks, and they're just like, wait, what if 102 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:21.000 what if we developed like a really nice chewy sour candy. 103 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.920 I like that approach Japan. That'd be great. I'd love 104 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:28.160 to It's a good place, or a kimono with nothing 105 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:29.240 under it. All the time. 106 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:32.279 Idiots putting in like putting together nukes, and it's like 107 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:35.839 the real secret was the invention of the gummy bear. 108 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:42.040 I think that's German. Horribo German. I don't like. I'm 109 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:43.920 kind of bears. 110 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:45.879 You're assuming Harrabou is the original. 111 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:50.160 Yeah, they're the standard popular. They're like the Kleenex of 112 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:50.600 gummy bears. 113 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:53.839 Are you suggesting there's an og Japanese gummy bear that 114 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:55.240 Harbo upstaged. 115 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.079 I'm just saying they're the most innovative. 116 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.759 Who invented gummy bears? Okay, let's see. 117 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:01.399 Well if. 118 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:05.720 The founder of Harribo. 119 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:07.600 Oh Hans Regal. 120 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:13.279 Regal Senior in nineteen twenty two, was inspired by dancing 121 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:16.399 bears that perform at festivals and wanted to create a fun, 122 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:20.199 chewy candy and their likeness, Wow, they don't I don't 123 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:21.360 like them, though I don't. 124 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:24.360 Like going so he shot a horse, made it happen. 125 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.759 We've we've talked about this before. It was a defining 126 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:32.040 moment in my life. Amanda likes all things horribo. That 127 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:34.959 I discovered, or rather realized, came to the realization that 128 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:38.279 the green gummy bears are strawberry flavored. I always assume that, 129 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.800 like in my head because I thought, because they're green, 130 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.199 I assigned some sort of like lime tonight, Yeah, of course, 131 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:47.240 but now they're strawberry. Really, I don't know. I don't 132 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.560 know how that happens. Like the strawberry leaf is green. 133 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.759 That's about it, though, because the red was already red. 134 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:54.240 Is cherry cherry. 135 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:56.759 By process of elimination. If it can't dot. 136 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.959 Bink, you do red and bink. Star Wars, Star Wars. 137 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:05.759 Yeah, Runs. I like runs a lot. I'm like, wait, 138 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:08.360 are runts the ones of the fruit there shaped like 139 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.800 the fruit? Yeah? Yeah? What were the ones? Tiny tarts 140 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.680 were the little member there's sweetart. There are sweet tarts 141 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:16.519 but tiny yeah? Yeah. I look. 142 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.720 The Harry Bow Corporation seems great outside of their core 143 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.439 product of gummy bears. I like the Twin Snakes. I 144 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.000 like the sour guys. I like the like most everything 145 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:27.560 Hawerbow makes outside of the gummy bears, and like, don't 146 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:28.920 get me wrong, give me back of gummy bears. 147 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:29.839 I'm inhaling that ship. 148 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.279 But it's like there's so many candies I would take 149 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:34.759 over that, including from Harry Bow. Did you have a 150 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:38.600 paper dots phase? No, those are ship You always end 151 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:40.439 up eating a lot of paper. Yeah, I don't want 152 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:40.879 to eat paper. 153 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.839 I pooped like a sultan anytime I ate those. I 154 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:44.959 think papers so much. 155 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.720 Spots are good because you're playing with them, and playing 156 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:51.480 with your candy is important. Just like those plastic bottles 157 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:53.480 that you would rip off the cap with your mouth 158 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:55.680 and then some out the juice and then you would 159 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:57.120 chew on the rest of the bottle. 160 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:00.600 Those are cross because it's a wax and stuff. I 161 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:05.959 like just bottle caps. The Yeah, that's gross. 162 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:08.839 The Internet, my dude, Like making a cube out of 163 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:10.680 candy wax was a big deal. 164 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:13.519 No, give me the candy legos and then they break youth. 165 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:15.439 But like you can actually build with those things. 166 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:17.720 And build stuff. I mean I built a penis and 167 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:23.800 then fucking went at it all the time. Should have 168 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:25.720 my parents should have been noticing. 169 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:34.079 Yeah, dinner table, stop making those dick legos, our child, 170 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:36.639 there's weirdos are hard with these. 171 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:39.279 And then he doesn't have to play with the candy 172 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:40.959 lego balls, does he? At the table? 173 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:47.360 It was a very confusing time my life. 174 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:52.120 He's gargling them. 175 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:51.800 Little Mikey's at it the end. 176 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:52.680 Take them away? 177 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.360 What are those? You can get them at? Uh? I 178 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.879 always see them at movie theater vending machines. They're so 179 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:05.759 of like Runts, but they're smaller. There's like there's a peach, 180 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:07.720 there's like a little blue raspberry cluster. 181 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:11.040 They're basically runs nerds nerds clusters. 182 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:13.439 No, Nerds clusters are awesome, but no, they were like 183 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:17.079 a gen two of Runts where it's like a peach 184 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:20.279 and a blue raspberry cluster. They might they might have 185 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.560 been Runts that they added and they shrunk a bit 186 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:24.800 and then added the peach too, because the peach is 187 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.439 the best flavor and it's also the best fruit. I mean, like, 188 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.519 look it up. Look up Runts peach or Runts blue raspberry. 189 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.639 And I've seen them specifically. You get a bunch of them. 190 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:36.200 I ate a lot of them when I worked at 191 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:37.879 a movie theater. Oh what are these? 192 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.320 F I googled peach runts and it was a weed shop. 193 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:47.039 That sounds right? Are they fruit teas? Maybe they're really good? 194 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:50.799 They're runts, but like flavor. Hmm. 195 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:51.679 Okay, time I. 196 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:56.320 Get something, it's asking me if I'm over eighteen before 197 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:56.960 I can click. 198 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:58.639 It's just like all weeds. 199 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:04.600 So yes, what is the we have candy? Now? Me too? 200 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:11.919 H Speaking of movies, I have you guys watched The Warriors? Ever? Yeah? 201 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:13.559 Well you watched it recently? 202 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:18.240 No, it's been a decade plus. Yeah, I've been thinking 203 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:18.960 about watching. 204 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:20.879 We Re a Man and I both share a love 205 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.639 for that movie, which is funny because she it was. 206 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:27.039 It was a movie I had brought up. She goes 207 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:29.320 to bed before me most nights, so I think about 208 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:31.960 a year and a half ago, she's like, all right, 209 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.200 I'm gonna go to bed. It's like a Thursday night. Like, okay, cool, 210 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:36.360 I'm gonna watch The Warriors. She's like, what is that? 211 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:39.960 I was like a movie set in seventy nine New 212 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:44.679 York gangs like theme gangs, but also very vibey. It's 213 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:46.639 more about vibes than like a great storyline. It's like 214 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:48.600 a retelling of the Iliad. But it's just like people 215 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:52.159 getting from the Bronx to Coney Island cult classic rockstar 216 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:55.240 me to She's like, this sounds cool. I was like, okay, 217 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:56.559 I'm curious what you think of it. So she's like, 218 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:58.480 wait until tomorrow, we'll watch it. And we watched it, 219 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:01.039 and I will se if you have not seen that movie, 220 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.559 or if you have now watched in a while, front 221 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:08.480 loaded homophobia is the best way to put it. Oh really, 222 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.519 but it's it's a couple of f bombs. 223 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:14.000 Ted around the time of the era. 224 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:17.919 Gangs in New York. Like, sure, I guess whether you 225 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:20.279 can stomach it. There's a lot of things playing into it, 226 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.200 but it's like seventy nine. And also the guy who 227 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:27.159 drops them James Remar, the actor, he was the Phantom. 228 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:29.000 He's in Sex and the City, but he was Ajax 229 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:30.759 in this movie. Again, it's all like, it's actually just 230 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:33.840 inspired by Greek. It's a retelling of Greek story, so 231 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.159 it's like Ajax and the Sirens and the Furies. But 232 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:40.799 after that, there are a couple spots where it also 233 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.399 gets very seventy nine Men's gang a bit weird with women. 234 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:46.639 To put it, lightly. So it's like, I don't know 235 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:48.240 if you'll love this movie. We could try it out, 236 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.200 and then Amanda loved it. Like not that it's without 237 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:55.399 its problems, but that movie's soundtrack, the style of everything 238 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:58.360 they cut away to these like two camera segments like 239 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.120 you would with like an on stage. Like again, they've 240 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:04.559 made no they've not tried to hide that it was 241 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.360 inspired by like old school Greek theater, but they wanted 242 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:12.000 to do like a modern take on it. Neon Lit. 243 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.519 Joe Walsh from The Eagles does like several songs on 244 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:18.559 the soundtrack that like when they finally get back to 245 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:20.200 Cony and they're walking into the sunset on the beach, 246 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:23.679 it's in the city. That's Joe Walsh who wrote it. 247 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:26.519 Then I like Big Hilts by Joe Walsh. You know 248 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:27.320 that's also in there. 249 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:30.480 I think that it's hidden there somewhere. Yeah, but that 250 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.960 movie is still awesome classic, It's still really good. I 251 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:37.120 never played the U the rock Star game. I know 252 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:38.279 that was more of a beat him up. 253 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:40.879 I reviewed it, it was I remember liking it. I 254 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:43.159 think I probably gave you like an eight. It's just 255 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:45.080 such a cool thing to exist, because that's what a 256 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:47.360 rock Star thing that is to you know, it's like, oh, 257 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:49.200 we like this movie, let's make it like, well, we're 258 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:50.480 playing a lot of ping pong, let's make a ping 259 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:52.639 pong game. Well, we all like the Warriors, Let's make that. 260 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:54.720 Like I don't know, I appreciate that I kind of 261 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:57.360 missed that rock Star to be honest, as excited as 262 00:11:57.399 --> 00:11:58.480 I am for what they're doing now. 263 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:00.559 But like the old cash Ground, but I mean I 264 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:02.399 think it's like cash grab with heart, which. 265 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:03.799 Is just not even a cash grab. I don't think 266 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:06.120 that many people liked The Warriors back when they made 267 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:08.039 that game. It's like it's like a passion project that 268 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:11.120 I don't think was gonna make a lot of money. 269 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:12.639 It was a weird thing when they announced it and 270 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:14.080 they're like, what are you like, No, a lot of 271 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:15.759 people hadn't really heard of it. It wasn't like they 272 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:17.919 were doing like, oh, a Terminator game. It's like this 273 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:20.960 kind of cult classic seventies. Yeah, it's it was a 274 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:22.799 weird move in a cool way. 275 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:23.120 I think. 276 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:27.039 Yeah, maybe I overestimated how popular The Warriors was then 277 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:31.039 because I thought, like everybody knows The Warriors for some reason, 278 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.679 and it seems like it's a popular It. 279 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:35.639 Has a couple of very iconic has the come out 280 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.360 and Play and has the can you dig it? And 281 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:40.120 it's like there's some very quotable moments and everyone remembers 282 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:42.360 the like baseball guy gang and stuff like that. It's 283 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:45.399 just it's a weird and memorable movie. But I feel 284 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.320 like it's not one that it's definitely not like cult classic, 285 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:48.919 you know. 286 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.279 Yeah, and that they fucking like the The intro is 287 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:55.600 just like bum boom, bump boom, and then it's them 288 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:58.320 all like it shows every gang from around the city 289 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.200 going up for the summit in the Bronx, and it's 290 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:02.919 showing the themes of all the gangs, and some of 291 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.480 them are were military gears. Some of them are like monks. 292 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:06.919 Some of them are clear. 293 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.480 You're the Monk gang. You better watch the fuck out 294 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:10.759 because you're about to get monked. 295 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:14.519 Some of them are clearly stereotypical Chinese people from Chinatown 296 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:16.360 coming up. And I was like, oh, okay, And then 297 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:17.320 and then I. 298 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:19.080 Think it's going to have a content warning, Like it 299 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:21.120 should have a content warning, like did you hear about 300 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:22.399 what's going on with rush hour? 301 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:24.240 It was a rush hour? Oh? 302 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.759 Is it like a a content warning now when you 303 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:30.600 start the film, because. 304 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:33.360 We need a content warning for fire Escape every episode. 305 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:34.159 Listen. 306 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:38.399 Pictions, language and humor may seem outdated, but we are old. 307 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:41.279 I mean I haven't seen Rush Hour since the theaters and 308 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:42.960 that would not surprise me to all of it is 309 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:44.039 not aged gracefully. 310 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:48.639 No, it's just Chris Chris Tucker making fun of trying 311 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:52.200 Jackie Chan and and by extension, all Asian, not just Chinese. 312 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:52.440 Peep. 313 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:58.320 Sure, because he intentionally complaining I want to give the 314 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.799 movie flowers where flowers are due the fucking comeback or 315 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.919 like the callback that Chris Tucker's character has. Uh, if 316 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:07.960 you watch the Sopranos, you know the actors in both 317 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:10.120 of them. He's the he's the dude who's in the 318 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:13.320 nursing home and Junior later on. But he fights Chris 319 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:15.320 Tucker early in the movie and he like beats it 320 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:17.159 out of him. He says, wipe yourself, you're bleeding, and 321 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:19.759 he throws him like a rag. And then later Chris 322 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:22.559 Tucker kills him and throws a rag onto his dead 323 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:27.720 body and says, wipe yourself, you're dead. It's that is 324 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:30.679 very good. Yes, I'm sure the movie is not age well, 325 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:35.279 but that line is whatever with me forever. Yeah, it's good. 326 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:38.240 It's like, uh, there's so many of those one offs. 327 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:40.799 And Tombstone another movie I showed him as everything that 328 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:43.120 she had not seen. Another movie that there's like two 329 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.320 women in that have like four lines. There's a trend 330 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:50.679 with the movies I like guys. 331 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:54.240 Past the bash Dell test. Also all the women are hooker. 332 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:59.519 Yeah, it's yeah, one woman who was coming additional test. 333 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:02.759 There's the home wrecker woman in Tombstone, and then there's 334 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:07.000 the drugged up addicted to not Valley. What was the 335 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:10.159 medicine they were all taking laudanum wife. Those are the 336 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:13.159 two female yeah, and the one who's just like with 337 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:16.320 val Kilmer. Also, his performance is Doc Holliday is incredible. 338 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:21.759 The men in this movie were incredible, like specifically specifically 339 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:22.080 the men. 340 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.480 I uh. Last night with Bonk watched the movie that 341 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:27.679 I think was also based on the Iliad and also 342 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:29.080 failed the Bechdel test. 343 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:30.240 It's Heads of State. 344 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.679 It's the one where John cenas the President and Edris 345 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.759 Elba is the Prime Minister of England and they're on 346 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:38.919 Air Force one and Air Force one gets shot down 347 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:42.639 over Belarus and they have to like fight terrorists together. 348 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:47.480 Sounds cool, iliad because the iliad. 349 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.279 Oh no, I was lying about that part. I was 350 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:51.759 not lying about it. Probably not passing the Bechdel test 351 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:56.000 because I can think of two women in the movie. Well, no, 352 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:57.639 they don't talk to each other, but one of them 353 00:15:57.720 --> 00:15:59.639 like kicks ass, and that doesn't pass the Bechdel test. 354 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:07.360 If a little just kicks ass, right, no, no mind yous? No? 355 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:11.000 The wait would they would come on? Let's be realistic. 356 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:13.960 There's the first Lady, and there's the first Lady, the 357 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:16.840 Vice President and the ass kicker lady, but they're never 358 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:17.440 in the same room. 359 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:19.200 Well, the vice President and the first Lady are not 360 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:21.039 supposed to be in the same room, So that checks out. 361 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:25.559 We don't want one nuke to get the whole White House. 362 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:28.480 Oh okay, Now the first Lady cries because she thinks 363 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:31.440 John Seen is dead, and then the vice president turns 364 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:34.840 out not spoilers for heads of state. The vice president lady, 365 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:37.720 Carla Gagino. It turns out it was just a big scheme. 366 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.440 Carla Gugino's in this movie. Absolutely, she is the vice President. Yes, 367 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:43.480 I've not seen her since since City. 368 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:47.720 I think download now. She was in Haunting of hill House. 369 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.200 Oh okay, real good if you know she know what 370 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:51.519 I mean. 371 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:55.720 I'm pretty it looked a lot like her. Yeah, that 372 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:56.240 had to be here. 373 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:58.480 She's not talking to any women in the movies I 374 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:01.000 watch with her in it. 375 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:03.240 Yes, she does play the vice president and then she 376 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:06.400 winds up being evil and she tries to usurp Johnson 377 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:07.240 President Johnson. 378 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.640 At least it passes the fucking whack off test that. 379 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:15.680 Each She passed that test with flying colors many a year. 380 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.279 I have also introduced Amna to Annihilation, which is one 381 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:22.640 of her favorite. So I'm an ally because that movie 382 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:27.960 is mainly women. That's it's only women talking to you, guys, 383 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:28.480 get all. 384 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:29.279 Done in one film. 385 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:32.200 That way you can watch all your porne. 386 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:35.000 I'm trying to remember Annihilation if any men talk to 387 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:38.000 oh yeah, they talks to the other dudes in that 388 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:40.240 squad where it's like, oh, Dan, I know you've been 389 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:43.880 playing Expedition thirty three. When when you use the when 390 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:48.440 you use the main characters, build up ability, when you're 391 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:53.559 when you're using the hell's name, the main character, Robert Gradyucker, 392 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:55.200 it's the one you build up to you get ten 393 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:59.640 the overcharge, the overcharge, yeah, which he says, he says 394 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.319 for those to come after. It's like that's I mean, 395 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:04.400 it's like a line from like age and storytelling. But 396 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:06.440 they say that several times in an Annihilation. It makes 397 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:09.279 me think of Annihilation, which is very much about people 398 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:13.279 going into an unknown area and leaving breadcrumbs for the 399 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:14.359 people that come behind. 400 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:14.680 Yeah. 401 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:16.519 Yeah, the videotapes and stuff like that. Yeah, I could 402 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:17.160 totally see. 403 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:18.839 That, like the expedition the journals or whatever. 404 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:22.599 But we'll talk about expeditiones. 405 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:25.480 That movie is so fucking cool. That is one that 406 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.240 like every moment I've thought about that since the first 407 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:29.759 time I saw it, I've liked it more. 408 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:30.000 You know. 409 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:32.039 It was like Bog and I both let that theater thing, 410 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:33.359 like I think we both gave it four stars on 411 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:35.359 a letterbox, and then a couple of years later we 412 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:37.079 watched it again, we're like, oh, that's a five. That's 413 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:39.759 a five, Like that is fucking a perfect movie. 414 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:43.440 And fucking uh what what what studio was it that 415 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:47.039 like fucking had a panic attack and lost their balls 416 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.319 right before it went to theaters, or like no, no, no, 417 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:51.200 it's going two weeks and then going straight to Hulu 418 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:54.240 or whatever. Oh, because they thought they're like people won't 419 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:56.759 get it and like it's not that much. I mean, 420 00:18:56.839 --> 00:18:59.720 yes it has, there's complex layers to it, but it's 421 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:02.400 also just pretty cool on the surface, like it is. 422 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:04.400 I don't think we really appreciate it and got all 423 00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:05.880 of it the first time, So I do think it's 424 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:07.880 one that benefits from a second watch for sure, or. 425 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.960 A fucking tenth. Yeah. I love it. It's amazing. Wished 426 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:13.400 some more dudes in it. Yeah, it's the only thing. 427 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:18.400 What it was like, Yeah, naked John Cena and Interselva 428 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:19.359 going into. 429 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:24.400 Yeah. Yeah, it's just John Cena being like they call 430 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:29.119 it the Shimmer. That's my John c an annihilation. Pretty good. 431 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:31.440 This is where it's a little speed up. 432 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:36.319 This Isla in the Shimmer. Yeah, is it glowing like that? 433 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:42.680 That was a lot better than I expected it to be. 434 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:47.839 It's just British. Oh yeah. The Wires is still really 435 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:50.000 good though, for all of its faults. Yeah, there there's 436 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:53.799 a scene later on where let's say it has rape vibes, 437 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:56.559 but then the scene has a twist to it. I 438 00:19:56.599 --> 00:19:59.960 mean it's fucking old movie. I could say Ajax John Remar. 439 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:04.000 James Remar's character the whole movie is given off rape vibes, 440 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:05.599 and you're like, are they just gonna keep lett him 441 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.640 get away with this? And then they encounter he they're 442 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:10.720 walking through Central Park when they're coming through back from 443 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:13.799 the Bronx, and uh, he sees this woman just sitting 444 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:16.960 weirdly on a park bench and he's like, I'm gonna 445 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:18.880 take care of his business and he hangs behind when 446 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:21.039 they keep moving to get that meet everybody else at 447 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:24.160 Union Square and then he's like coming on to this 448 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.960 woman and she's like, she's flirting with him as well initially, 449 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:31.240 but then he starts like making out with her pretty forwardly, 450 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:34.079 and then he's like, no, I like, I like it rough. 451 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:35.960 It's like, oh man, he's trying to rape her. And 452 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:38.839 then it turns out she's an undercover cop, so they 453 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:41.240 arrest him. And I was like, I don't know how 454 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:42.319 to feel about that scene. 455 00:20:43.519 --> 00:20:45.960 Does that only validate that that's what he was doing 456 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:47.240 all those other times? 457 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:49.599 Is that he like? But then he then he got arrested. 458 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:52.599 I guess like that's the like, there's there's also the 459 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:58.880 one gang the the Lizzies. It's the one all female 460 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:02.079 gang and they say danced to the song love is 461 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:09.720 a Fire, Love is a Fire, Love is a Fire. 462 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:13.119 I think they wrote it for the movie and the 463 00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:16.039 I don't know if using iliad comparisons, they would be 464 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:18.240 like the sirens that like lure the men away with 465 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:24.240 their beauty and their the siren song. A warrior, yeah, exactly. 466 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:26.839 Corey Barlow was just watching the Warriors as he made 467 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:30.000 She just stole as ideas from the Warriors. That's what 468 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:30.400 he did. 469 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:32.640 No, there was that time he had a kid and said, 470 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:34.400 what if I made a game about being a dad. 471 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:38.240 Oh, he's playing the Last of Us and watching the Warriors. 472 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:42.759 And then I held h that's right, that's right. And 473 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:46.559 they cried a lot about it. Yeah, but the words 474 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:50.720 still good. Tombstone is still good, Annihilation's fine. Just too 475 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:58.880 many women sound bite? Someone else? What else is that? Mary? 476 00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:04.920 We haven't talked about. Why the fuck you're in bikini bottom? 477 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:05.720 You know what? 478 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:09.759 You know you didn't want to reference my sick news setup. 479 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:13.839 Yeah, for the audio listener, Mary's inside of tron and 480 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:16.319 there's a pineapple that's sponges there. 481 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:18.200 Yeah. 482 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:23.160 I'm at the Twitch offices for work and this is 483 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.079 one of our streamer rooms and it's just, you know, 484 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:31.319 an led nightmare in here. It's like crazy the amount 485 00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:34.799 of lighting that they've put into the background so that 486 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:35.839 it looks cool. 487 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:38.160 You have hexagons. I like hexagons. 488 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:40.079 Kids love the hexagons. 489 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:45.640 I don't expect, but like, this is what the kids like. 490 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:50.240 Did you mean to say pentogon like mcgruber, Yeah, because 491 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:53.039 there's actually only five sides max to any of them. 492 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:57.839 No, those are hexagons. There's no closed off hexagon, is 493 00:22:57.880 --> 00:22:58.279 my point. 494 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:02.000 Those I know, but it's it's like jazz the the hexagons. 495 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:02.839 You don't play. 496 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:08.079 A jazz wall. I met the Pentagon. 497 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:12.319 A strange location, but oh I forgot. 498 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:13.799 To email you or I forgot to tell you guys. 499 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:17.559 So we'll be in Cape Cod in a few weeks. 500 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:20.079 And uh, there's a one of the last or one 501 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:23.920 of the last dozens of drive in theaters in the 502 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:28.200 country is in well Fleet in Cape Cod, and a 503 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:30.200 couple of years ago we went and we watched Top 504 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:32.079 Gun Maverick there. It's fun. You pull the car up, 505 00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:34.880 you turn the radio on to the right station, you 506 00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:37.839 flip open some chairs, some mosquito spray, some drinks, and 507 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.960 you're awesome. You're good to go. I emailed them like 508 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:44.960 a couple of weeks ago. I was like, Hi, I'm 509 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.319 curious how much it would be to like to run 510 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:50.559 a certain movie, and like, I know that they have 511 00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:53.319 like their own projectionists and there's a lot of complications 512 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:54.960 and also a lot of other people in Cape Cod. 513 00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:57.960 I was gonna see if I could sort of get 514 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:01.359 them to play mcgruber, but no, They're like that would 515 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:04.759 require like a twenty or like a several thousand dollars buyout, 516 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:07.079 and like, okay, I lost interest. But I think it's 517 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:08.680 just Jaws, which is a good movie to watch at 518 00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:10.680 Cape Cod when you're swimming on beaches all week. 519 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.279 It's a great movie. But I just want to say, 520 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:14.359 if you want a bad enough, my buddy Ross did 521 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:16.880 for his birthday rent out a theater here in Minnesota, 522 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:19.119 and I have to play mcgoover, so be great. 523 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:21.960 But this is drive in like sad Night. They're they're 524 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:24.559 they're pretty well stocked with customers. 525 00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:26.240 But I'm sure the neighbors love hearing. 526 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:32.839 Yeah that, uh that drive ins are so successful, because you. 527 00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:35.119 Know are I don't think they are. They're just I 528 00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:35.599 think they're like. 529 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:40.680 Now, I think that they there's a nostalgia to them now, 530 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:42.920 and the ones that I see are are doing great, 531 00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:45.319 but you know, there's not as many of them anymore, 532 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:47.839 so they're kind of like clinging to this old timey 533 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:50.599 vibe that you get to still, you know, bang out. 534 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:52.960 While you want. I mean, they do those ones on 535 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:55.000 like Governors that's what they did back in the day. 536 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.640 They do they do the one on Governor's Island here. 537 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:00.319 I think it's just a huge like sort of that 538 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.279 they roll out for it. This is a built in. 539 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:04.400 They've got the concession stand in the middle of the 540 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:05.960 parking lot that you got to go to between the 541 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:07.079 intermission between the movies. 542 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:12.119 It's awesome, but I totally go it's fun. What do 543 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:13.640 they do They rent out they used to rent out 544 00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:13.880 the thing. 545 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:16.640 Do they get you speaker? Some of them? 546 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:19.160 It's like, yeah, you get there's little posts next in 547 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.559 the parking spots with speakers, but half of them are broken, 548 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:23.720 which adds to the charm. So you just turn They 549 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.599 tell you what radio station to turn to so you 550 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:27.400 can hear it in your car. 551 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:30.400 But I feel like you could just keep moving the 552 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:34.079 radio station over until you find the movie. 553 00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:37.759 Yeah, that's the idea, So you can hear the movie, 554 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:40.000 but you pay to get into the parking lot where 555 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.079 you can see the movie screen. It's surrounded by trees, 556 00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:43.279 and then you have to pay to get into the 557 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:43.799 parking lot. 558 00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:46.039 Could sit in a tree with the radio? 559 00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:50.640 Yeah, yeah, like a Ham radio. Yeah. I don't think they're. 560 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:57.200 Why don't even know what a hammer different? It seems 561 00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:00.839 want to ham, I like saying ham. 562 00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:03.240 Yeah. I don't enjoy my life. 563 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:07.559 All right, So anyway, so any person could just climb 564 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:10.559 a tree with a Ham radio and watch a free movie. 565 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:12.640 Yes, they don't care for sure. 566 00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:14.559 I don't think they're trying to keep those hooligans out. 567 00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:16.200 I don't think they're losing that much money on them. 568 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:17.759 It's movies that have been out for a while. 569 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.759 I definitely when I worked at the movie theater. Maybe 570 00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:23.200 it was after I quit, I stole one of the 571 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:26.480 walkies that like in all the ushers and basically everyone 572 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:29.000 working the head of the walkie talkies, and I would 573 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:31.680 just park my car within range of the theater and 574 00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:34.200 just me and my friends just be like, oh it 575 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.240 a couple of people fucking in theater fourteen and like 576 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:39.279 just like what, I'm sorry? Repeat that, like, you know, 577 00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:42.279 just fuck with them. Yeah, cool, cool teenager stuff. 578 00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:44.319 Yeah, I was gonna say, I was gonna ask like, 579 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:45.799 did you have nothing better to do than I was like, 580 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:47.240 well I was neither did I When I. 581 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.000 Was a teenage I never had anything better to do 582 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.160 near day, Yeah, no, I used to. I'd bring the 583 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.039 TV begone thing where it's like it was just a 584 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:56.480 thing you could buy and it would cycle through remote 585 00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:59.119 control codes and just hit the power button and I 586 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.200 would just go to like the theater where all of 587 00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:03.640 the menus at a certain point turned into just screams. 588 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:06.359 They're just flat screens with popcorn prices and everything. And 589 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.480 I would just sit there and like stealthily point it 590 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.119 up there and just shut it all down, like all 591 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:13.559 the TVs, so all the menus, all the prices, and 592 00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:17.079 just watch the chaos unfold. And uh yeah, that's that 593 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.799 probably caused trouble. I would think I'd do that at bars, 594 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:21.759 like sports bars like Buffalo Wild Wings, they're showing like 595 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.960 sports stuff, like all the TV's are off. I really 596 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:27.079 should have gotten my ass kicked a lot, is what 597 00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:27.559 I'm saying. 598 00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:30.839 Yeah, maybe you're saving it all, but like when you 599 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.680 hit like fifty, you'll get beaten to death. 600 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:35.079 You know what? 601 00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.279 And if that happened, I think during the beating, I 602 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.160 think this makes sense. I had a good run. 603 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.039 Would scared me so much if I was beating someone 604 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:43.759 to death and they're like, this makes sense. 605 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:46.079 Yeah, I might be saying al and stuff too. I 606 00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:47.960 wouldn't be like tough about it. I would be crying 607 00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:50.559 and screaming and get it. I get it, I get it. 608 00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:51.000 Yeah. 609 00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:54.000 Yeah, this has been a long time coming. 610 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:58.319 Deliver me to hate these Oh, God of responsibility. 611 00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:00.400 I don't know why. It was Mike Manati and that's 612 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:05.200 he just burked up here. 613 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:07.000 That's how he goes. 614 00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:11.680 Oh, I can I tell a story that he told 615 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.200 while we were on Blake Club today. I just need 616 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:16.680 to hear your reactions to this. He said when he 617 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:19.200 was younger, like mid two thousands or something, and Mike, 618 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:20.640 I know you're listening. I'm sorry if I get any 619 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:22.279 part of this wrong, but I don't think I will. 620 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.599 There was a girl that he was into and he 621 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.640 thought she was into him, and but at the time 622 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.440 he didn't have a car. I don't think he got 623 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:32.640 a license until like well into his twenties, so he 624 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:37.079 needed rides places and on the day like, well into adulthood, 625 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:39.119 you know, so I think this is an adult Mike Manatti. 626 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:43.599 I think he said it was like whenever Chippendale Rescue 627 00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:46.200 Rangers came out on DVD, because. 628 00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:48.480 Okay, I mean I wouldn't call him an adult. 629 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:50.759 Now he starts thirty eight, he said, thirty eight. 630 00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:52.880 I don't know when adulthood will kick in for him, 631 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:54.880 but like I don't, let's say oh four. 632 00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.200 I think let's let's say oh four. That sounds right. 633 00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:59.680 And again, Mike, sorry if I got that wrong. And anyway, 634 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.000 he went to go to best side because it was 635 00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:05.440 it was the day Chipendale Rescue Rangers came out on DVD, 636 00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.160 and so we had his friend, the girl who he 637 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:10.759 thought there was something going on with, to pick him 638 00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.799 up and take him to get Rescue Rangers. And she 639 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.720 played on loop on repeat that Bloodhound Gang song the 640 00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:19.799 You and Me Baby ain't nothing but mantals let's do 641 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.839 it like they do like the least subtle hint in 642 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.880 the world, playing the like hey, let's fuck song over 643 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:27.680 and over, and he said, in his head, He's like, 644 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:31.079 that's interesting. She keeps playing that anyway, Chi Chipandale and 645 00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:34.440 he was like super excited about watching Chippendale, so we 646 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.119 went and picked it up. She went to like drop 647 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.000 him off at home and he's like, well, see, yuah, 648 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:40.839 it's just watched Chippindale. 649 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.759 What a fun lady that was who helped take me 650 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:46.960 to go get this DVD box set. 651 00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:49.240 I don't know why she kept playing the hey, let's 652 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:51.039 fuck song on repeat. 653 00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:53.799 She must have been so frustrated. 654 00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:59.279 Oh, Mikey, I love that man all Mikey. Yeah, which 655 00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:01.400 fucks me up because I called you Mikey recently and 656 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:02.799 you were like, what the fuck You've never called me 657 00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:04.200 Mike and was like, oh fuck, I've been hanging out 658 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:05.279 with Mike Manatti too much. 659 00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:06.119 Yeah. 660 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.759 Maybe give he's a pure soul, you know. 661 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:11.400 I mean, there's like something good in that story of 662 00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.640 like never assuming intent of a lady and just being 663 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.440 like she was the best anyway. 664 00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.160 He's a pure soul. But let's just be he is 665 00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:20.920 also supremely perverted. 666 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.160 Well now, maybe it's like all that pent up energy 667 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:26.240 just you're gonna get. 668 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:27.000 Beaten to death one day. 669 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.119 He's just gonna explode into semen because he never actually 670 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:31.240 took advantage of any time. 671 00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:31.920 The fuck. 672 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:42.240 It's just gonna come out every orifice. He's gotta blown. 673 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:45.039 Love your mike. 674 00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:54.480 Yeah, that'll be. That'll be. I hope I'm there. Actually, 675 00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:56.279 don't don't help. I'm there. 676 00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:57.839 You absolutely sick. 677 00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:01.000 If I chance to see someone explode into a mist 678 00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.480 of seamen, I would probably want to be there. And 679 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.119 it's a scary movie scene. You know which scene? 680 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.680 There a scene in scary movie where the guys, like 681 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:13.440 the like virgin guy or something's like really worked up 682 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.200 about having sex and he's about to be laid and 683 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.799 the girls on top and he's like and he like 684 00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:19.759 like it cuts to the ceiling. I think the girl 685 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:21.640 gets plastered to the ceiling with seamen. 686 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.920 Oh yeah. Reference to nightmare on Elm Street. I've never 687 00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:26.400 seen those. 688 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.079 I don't know what. I've never seen him, Freddy, I've 689 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.440 never seen it. Jason. 690 00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:34.279 I saw a number on Elm Street for the first 691 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.680 time in a hotel in San Diego. The first time 692 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.039 I ever had flown anywhere. See my brother come back 693 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:45.319 from Iraq or wherever and uh or wherever it was wherever? 694 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:54.200 Yeah, Canada, Yeah, Canada, third to Montreal, third tour in Fiji. 695 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.839 Uh. He saw some action in Bora Bora, Sure, sure, 696 00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:02.359 but I was watching this. 697 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:03.880 Two turtles going at it. 698 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.039 I saw Nightmare on Elm Street and there's the one 699 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.039 scene where he's like stabbing someone up to the ceiling, 700 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.119 but then you go back into the real world outside 701 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:14.119 of the dream and the person's getting dragged along the 702 00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:16.799 ceiling trailing blood but getting stabbed like over and over. 703 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:17.400 It's fucked up. 704 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:19.480 See these movies sound cool, Like I just remember the 705 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.559 Simpsons with the groundskeeper Willie where it's the Halloween parody 706 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.240 thing and thelastic. Yeah, like the idea of a guy 707 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.759 who fucking me up in your dreams is great and terrifying. 708 00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.839 Like I guess I've just never seeked out horror, you know, and. 709 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.240 No one wants to sleep, and no, they're trying to asleep, 710 00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:34.920 but then they like fall asleep and then they get killed. 711 00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.160 I think that's a really cool idea. I should watch those. 712 00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:38.240 Freddy was cool. 713 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:40.599 He was funny. 714 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.839 Another thing that's also important, so he spoilers is a 715 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:52.240 child molester and the parents, detail guess, and they track 716 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:56.119 him down and they kill him, and I think they 717 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:57.839 like light the house on fire or something like that, 718 00:32:57.880 --> 00:32:59.079 and he's essentially. 719 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.359 Like, I'll get them in there dreams and so like 720 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:02.440 that's what he does. 721 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:03.559 It's always going. 722 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.440 After kids specifically. 723 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:08.759 It's wow, yeah. 724 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.759 Character the children of the parents that killed him. 725 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:17.599 Yeah, is like why he's specifically targeting these kids and 726 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:19.279 he gets them in their dreams. 727 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.319 Where all those times I've seen like people like kids 728 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.799 and stuff being Freddy Krueger for Halloween, they're dressing up 729 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:26.920 as a burnt child molester. 730 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.839 Yes, I think that one's overlooked. 731 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.359 That's why I like always found Jason's story to be 732 00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.240 like so much more interesting because it's. 733 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:40.960 Like, yeah, Jason's mom was like she was the original killer, 734 00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:45.599 right that he like he like kind of took the 735 00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:46.519 throne so to speak. 736 00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:49.799 At Lake, he becomes the killer because he like assumes 737 00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:54.079 the lore like kind of like a campfire lore, and 738 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.519 he became like it comes to life, and so. 739 00:33:58.039 --> 00:33:59.640 The children in him. 740 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:03.519 Oh yeah, he was just he was just depressed and 741 00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:04.680 went on the killing spree. 742 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.559 I could kill the teens that are banging. I think 743 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:08.519 he's just a moment. 744 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.719 Yeah, there's like fascinating video estays that whole that era 745 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.840 of horror. The worst thing any of the teenagers could 746 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:17.960 do that would get them marked for death was anything. 747 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.079 That's what Screams whole deal was just playing on those tropes. 748 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.000 You know. I like Scream a lot, Like I didn't 749 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:26.719 see it until a few years ago, but like I 750 00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:28.639 hadn't seen any of this shit it's referencing. I just 751 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:30.320 do think it's a good movie in its own right, 752 00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:32.960 Like I hadn't seen any of those classics Freddie Jason 753 00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:35.320 or anything. But I do remember were both of you there, 754 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.840 maybe just Mike when Tim Turry on Halloween had to 755 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:39.840 watch Halloween one and two. It was at the place 756 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.199 you used to live with him, Like I don't know, 757 00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.599 you might have been there. Yeah, And I can really 758 00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.719 appreciate Halloween that because like John Carpenter is like that. 759 00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:48.400 That's how it got me in the door where TAM's like, 760 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.400 it's John Carpenter, come on, it's gonna be great. And 761 00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:54.480 it was very good suburban horror. 762 00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:56.079 Like also like some of the shots when he gets 763 00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:59.400 into the houses, like also it's. 764 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:02.519 Similar from the Guy It's scary. 765 00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:05.639 Similar to Jaws. Also, it's like those movies are also 766 00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.400 just good movies in their own right, aside from the 767 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:13.440 horror bits. Also, Jamie Lee Curtis is awesome, Yes, yeah, 768 00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.599 there's a reason they're lauded. But yeah, I feel. 769 00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:19.760 Like you can like Scream as much as you want 770 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.280 because it is a good film in its own right, 771 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:26.480 but I think watching the movies it's referencing will give 772 00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:30.800 you a better perspective of why it's very smart because 773 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:32.320 of the tropes that it's playing on. 774 00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:35.480 Same with Scary Movie. You'll appreciate that movie more. 775 00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:39.239 In the Woods, yes, I like that, Yeah, yeah. 776 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.440 Yeah, I mean that's a brilliant film too. 777 00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:46.280 But I think again, knowing the original is you know, 778 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.119 what they're based off of, will give you like a 779 00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.639 deeper appreciation for what they're doing. 780 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.800 But I think through osmosis, I think those tropes like 781 00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:55.519 you know, I knew, but like, oh don't split up. 782 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.280 All these people have sex and they're gonna get killed. 783 00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.519 So it's like I was aware of the tropes enough 784 00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:01.239 to appreciate what Scream was doing with that. 785 00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:05.440 You know, dude, you sugarcoat ignorance like skittle. You are 786 00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.960 like just constantly like I this is actually a good 787 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:09.800 thing that I don't. 788 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:10.239 Have about that. 789 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.840 Oh no, I'm sure there's a deeper appreciation for Scream, 790 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:14.199 but it's not like I was like, what are they 791 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.079 talking about, you know, like I understood what they were referencing, 792 00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.360 Like horror. 793 00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:23.840 I get all these jokes just fine. 794 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:28.000 There might be there might be one that proves me wrong. 795 00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.920 But I do think horror is the most self referential, 796 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:35.719 self obsessed like niche. It's not a niche. A lot 797 00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:37.280 of people are into it. I fucking love it. Mary, 798 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.599 you and I had a horror podcast. But yeah, horror 799 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.880 is obsessed with itself as a genre, like I don't 800 00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:47.159 I don't know that, Like I mean, everything is like 801 00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:51.800 same like uh, Mob movies also are, but not as 802 00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.159 on the nose about it, and Captain in the Woods 803 00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:57.639 is as on the nose as you get, which was 804 00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:00.159 great because of it. And I also think, I I 805 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:04.679 still love Cabin in the Woods, but I don't think 806 00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:08.119 like westerns, I don't think that like sci fi can 807 00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:10.159 get I likely get self referential as well, but. 808 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.920 It's certain directors like Tarantino, like all of his shit 809 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:16.159 is references in movies about movies, you know, Wes. 810 00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.559 Anderson, same thing, pta same thing. I just think like 811 00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:24.239 horror is the most like uh literal about it, whereas 812 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:27.000 like those directors like Greta Gerwig does a lot of 813 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.159 it too, where it's like, you know, they they're clearly cinophiles. 814 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:32.960 There's a reason that they became good directors because they've 815 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.639 seen everything and they you know, they can't help but 816 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:39.079 like reference stuff because movies built them as a person. 817 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.480 But horror is like in the very script, it's like, hey, 818 00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.360 do you get what we're referencing? Cabin in the Woods? 819 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:45.920 Like every time I watch I still like it, but 820 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:48.159 it's also like, oh wow, they really are just like 821 00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:51.239 going at it like with a hammer and I'm the now, 822 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.239 But yeah, I love that. 823 00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:55.880 I love that. 824 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:01.840 Do you want about video games? Or do you have 825 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.239 something to say? Mary? You your mouth is open. 826 00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:09.199 I was thinking about a horror movie I just watched, 827 00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.159 but I don't know if I love it. So it's 828 00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:14.119 twenty eight years later to like describe it. I haven't 829 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:14.599 seen it. 830 00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:15.239 I did see that. 831 00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:17.159 I've not seen the previous two, but I saw years 832 00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:18.639 I've seen the previous two. 833 00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:21.840 What is your problem? This is literally what I just said. 834 00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:25.440 I just discussed this and how despicable it is. And 835 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:27.280 you don't know any of the reference, but you're probably 836 00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:29.840 gonna be like, yeah, they hung mad Dong. It's like 837 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.039 pretty sick film I think I got the gist of this. 838 00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:35.679 No, I fucking I asked many people like, if I 839 00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.800 haven't seen days or weeks, can I go and enjoy 840 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:41.199 this never feeling like, No, it's anthology style. It's not 841 00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:43.079 based on like you know people to me, like, I 842 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.079 just knew that there was a zombie thing in two 843 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:45.679 thousand and one. 844 00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:47.440 Or whatever, and like, you know who wrote it? 845 00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.079 Alex Carr No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it 846 00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:52.719 was yeah, you're out. 847 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.159 To three and fucking u Tulci Gabbard. 848 00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:58.400 What's his name? No, it's a Tony Gilroy. 849 00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:02.079 Tony Gilroy, Honny Gilroy who did Maverick, Top Gun and 850 00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:07.639 Burn the Bourne movies and Robert ludlumon him. Yeah, and 851 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.920 Tony Gilroy was involved with some of those. Yeah, yeah, 852 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.320 but yeah, Alex Garland wrote twenty eight days later. Danny 853 00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:17.280 Boyle directed it. Danny Boyle attached to this at all. Yes, 854 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:22.119 he directed it. Oh what did Tony Gilroy do produce? Right? Wrote? O? Wait? 855 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:23.400 So did Alex Carland write? 856 00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:28.320 He wrote? Yes, so, Alex Garland wrote twenty eight days 857 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.679 later and Sunshine. Danny Boyle directed both of those. I 858 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:37.480 believe Alex Garland's directorial debut. Fuck, what was it? It 859 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:41.480 would have been before Annihilation. I gotta look it up. 860 00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.880 Here's the answer, okay, written by Alex Garland twenty eight 861 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:48.679 years later, directed by Danny Boyle. And then who's the 862 00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:49.840 other fellow we were talking about? 863 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.800 Tony Gilroy Tony Gilroy, right, Alex Garland, and then Annihilation 864 00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:57.400 and then Men and then Civil War and then he 865 00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.880 did Warfare, which I gotta see Warfare. 866 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:01.920 I want to see that too, but I'm waiting until 867 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:04.079 it's like affordable on four K because I don't want 868 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:05.559 to watch that streaming. I want to watch that full 869 00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:06.599 boom and. 870 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.320 And it's like A twenty four is doing a movie 871 00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:11.199 about seals is intriguing because that does not seem up 872 00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:15.320 A twenty four as Alley. I've heard it's very good. Yeah, 873 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.480 same here. That's why I'm curious about it. I like 874 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.440 A twenty four is always like impoverished people in this 875 00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:24.760 Florida housing project, or like gay people in Miami, or like, 876 00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:27.480 wait a minute, it's a bunch of seals now, and 877 00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:28.639 I think Afghanistan. 878 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.000 But it seems like it's done well. Yeah, it seems 879 00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:32.559 like that could be dicey territory but it seems like 880 00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.079 they handle it from whatever I've consulted on it without Yeah, yeah, 881 00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:38.679 like people that were involved with like whatever that event was. 882 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:41.840 It's twenty eight years later. 883 00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:43.360 Oh yeah, yes, I did. 884 00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:45.280 I thought I liked it more and more as it 885 00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.679 went when, because I don't like zombie stuff normally, I 886 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.039 just find it boring. But I think by the end 887 00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.760 it did some really interesting stuff, and like Ray Fines 888 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:53.440 is in, he's great. 889 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:53.920 I agree. 890 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:54.800 I really want to see it. 891 00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.719 Twenty eight days Later is one of my favorite zombie 892 00:40:58.719 --> 00:40:59.760 films of all time. 893 00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:02.559 I just watched it two weeks ago and it still 894 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:03.039 holds up. 895 00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:05.760 I would say it's probably slower than most people would 896 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.159 want their zombie films by today's standards, but it's like 897 00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:12.239 the anticipation of what's going to happen that I think 898 00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:18.159 makes it so so successful, and I just think it's fantastic. 899 00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:20.400 I haven't seen I really did not like twenty eight 900 00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.239 weeks later, which is the standard among most normal people, 901 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.280 and twenty eight years later. 902 00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:27.400 I'd like to see it. I haven't had time yet. 903 00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:29.719 I would recommend it. I really, by the end liked it. 904 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:30.159 Quite a bit. 905 00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:32.840 I can't believe you've seen it before me, and you 906 00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:34.079 have zero appreciation. 907 00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:36.639 It's an anthology. 908 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.760 You don't even like zombie films, you said. 909 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:42.599 But I'm open minded and I'll go give. 910 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.320 A shot serve the things that you have in your life. 911 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:48.159 I think I think it's too my benefit that I 912 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.519 am willing to try things that I thought I wouldn't like. 913 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:51.280 Here we go. 914 00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.039 Yeah, I think it's great that I don't know shit 915 00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.599 about the world and haven't I don't try. 916 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.880 You know, I don't like Job. I'm not gonna see 917 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:01.679 that movie. Then I'm not. 918 00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.280 Gonna literally what you said about Mustard for the last 919 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:05.039 three decades. 920 00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.920 That's what I'm saying, and I learned about Mustard. It's 921 00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:12.320 it's beneficial. 922 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:16.440 We can all agree that Dan is a hero and 923 00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.320 a great person for taking this long to be open 924 00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.440 minded and try new things. 925 00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.599 You don't I've been fighting under the ball riker jeans 926 00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:29.239 for a long time. It is real fucking hard to 927 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:30.039 be open minded. 928 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.360 Dan finally escaped the cut. 929 00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:37.679 Your grand dad, you're being a piece of ship. Nothing 930 00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:39.760 to do with what a piece of ship you are. 931 00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:41.199 You're your own piece of ship. 932 00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:43.239 I've always tried to be better. 933 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.280 Mary, You're gonna be like that kind of person who's 934 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:48.440 like so bad and then right on your deathbed you're 935 00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:55.360 like I'm so sorry, and then heaven. Yeah, I'm good now, I'm. 936 00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:59.960 I'm genuinely speaking about that. I went to Catholic school, 937 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.719 so obviously I'm If there's one thing I'm terrified of, 938 00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:04.559 it's Hell, like the idea of like if that's real, 939 00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:06.559 it's like, wow, a place where like the worst shit 940 00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:09.519 that you I'm just in a in a plane having 941 00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:12.119 a dental surgery with the anesthesia for eternity. That's like 942 00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:13.639 the scariest thing I can ever think of. 943 00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:15.400 Bring it on, fucking who cares? 944 00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:22.840 But got my dick, devil, Yeah, come get this. 945 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.000 I'm gonna make it, devil my bitch. 946 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.599 So I as a teenager who was still very afraid 947 00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:31.800 of the devil and hell and things like that. I 948 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:33.760 wasn't like active life, was never actually going to church 949 00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.119 and stuff like that, but I still like by default, 950 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:38.400 believed in it because I lived in Kansas and went 951 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:41.239 to Catholic school. I was working at McDonald's when I 952 00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:45.199 was fourteen, and somebody handed me like they paid at 953 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.840 the window and then they gave me like a little pamphlet. 954 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:49.280 I was like, what the fuck is this? And I 955 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.679 look at it and it was, uh, it was a 956 00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.719 little prayer thing and it said something about the lines 957 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.800 of like make sure you say this prayer to absolve 958 00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.199 yourself of sins or whatever, and you'll go to heavy 959 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.000 when you die. And for some fucking reason as a kid, 960 00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:05.119 I was like, oh, sweet, okay, so no matter how much, 961 00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:07.760 Like I'm like fourteen, so I'm like whacking off crazy 962 00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:09.000 at the time, and I was like I was told 963 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:13.039 that was like super sin and like I'm going to 964 00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.519 hell because I'm whacking off way too much. And it's like, 965 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:18.760 but this lady McDonald's handed me a pamphlet and so 966 00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.760 if I'm about to die, I will just say this, 967 00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:23.719 like I accept Lord Jesus Christ into my Life's my 968 00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:27.199 Lord and savior, you know, absolved me of my blah blah. 969 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.159 And I like that was so burned in my brain 970 00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:33.239 that like anytime just knee jerk reaction if there was 971 00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:36.639 like a car swerve on a highway or the turbulence 972 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:38.960 or something, or every time I come it's just like, 973 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.840 oh the Lord, accept the Lord and Savior. Yeah, and 974 00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:42.480 it's like I'm good. 975 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:42.760 I'm good. 976 00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:47.320 I'll be clear for if that's the case, Angels. 977 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.000 I don't with you. 978 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.920 They're all like, no, don't check in on him every 979 00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:53.000 time he does that prayer. 980 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:54.039 Do not go in. 981 00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.480 There, Mike said, the coming thing. I just do it 982 00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.719 when I'm about to die. 983 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.440 I live long since since, stop praying when I'm jaying it. 984 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:06.559 It was only because I was a good I was 985 00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.719 a good Christian boy. So I wouldn't whack off on 986 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:09.480 Christmas Day. 987 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.559 Or Eastern Those are the only two days I really would. 988 00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:13.840 I would be like and I would like have to 989 00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.199 like talk myself up as a kid to be like. 990 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:17.000 Christmas Eve, I'm laying in bed, I'm like, all right, 991 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:18.639 after midnight, I can't be whacking off. 992 00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:20.880 You had to get yourself county to. 993 00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.519 Not jack off the next day. I was fourteen, sir, 994 00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:29.079 it's fucking Saturday before Eastern. Dan's in church just like, no, 995 00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:30.960 he's about to be resurrected. 996 00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:31.840 He's in the tomb right now. 997 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:36.119 Edward forty hands, his mouth's like what the fuck? He 998 00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.039 ends up just like, but. 999 00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:39.039 Just rub these together. 1000 00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.840 Yeah, his dick was pinched off by two for days 1001 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:49.159 of cold forty five. All right, way to go, that'd 1002 00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:51.320 be great, bleed out of your dick. 1003 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:54.920 So yeah, I think I got to haven't think covered 1004 00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:55.480 if that's real. 1005 00:45:55.559 --> 00:46:02.039 Yeah, you guys watch my vibiams now, sure, Yeah. 1006 00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:03.199 We don't have to. But we never talked about the 1007 00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:11.400 film that I know why we pose it. We were like, oh, 1008 00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:12.920 looks like Mary has something to. 1009 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.360 Say, and I said, yeah, I watched a horror movie, 1010 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:16.880 but I don't know if it's very good. 1011 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:19.840 And then twenty eight years later another. 1012 00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.559 It's twenty eight minutes talking about a horror movie that 1013 00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.079 Dan doesn't know shit about, but kind of like. 1014 00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:27.000 No, we're here, we're here. What is the movie? 1015 00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.800 I'm still making fun of you? Ignoring me? 1016 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:32.599 Right, you're making fun of mine. 1017 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:35.519 There's a difference between ignoring and interrupting and willfully the 1018 00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:36.599 worst redirecting you. 1019 00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:37.599 What is the movie you are? 1020 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:37.840 No? 1021 00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:40.239 Ally, you didn't stand up. 1022 00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:43.639 For me there, Mary? You know what? You know what 1023 00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:45.000 show has never been? 1024 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.880 It's just you shaying it for like the last ten minutes. 1025 00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:51.159 You know what show has never passed the backdel test virus? 1026 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:52.239 This one? 1027 00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:56.079 Wow, I guess that's true. 1028 00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:57.760 What is the movie you want to talk about? 1029 00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.639 I got to get a woman to report place one 1030 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:01.000 of you. 1031 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:06.119 Yeah, what is the Yeah, what's the movie? Go? 1032 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.599 Okay? So what I was gonna say before? 1033 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:10.719 I was wagging off on Christmas? 1034 00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:13.599 No you weren't. You better not have been? No, No, no 1035 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.159 I wasn't. I was sorry. Sorry, sorry, Mike, you're gonna 1036 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:19.679 say something. I was jade and a Halloween wearing a 1037 00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:28.440 Freddy Krueger costume. I still have no clue. What shut up? 1038 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:29.400 Mary's trying to say something. 1039 00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:36.000 Long finger, extra long, wolverine blades, just chopping my dee up. 1040 00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:46.119 Fucking Julian, this Freddy just stabbing my dick over and over. 1041 00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:49.880 Do you want candy? What are you doing on our porch? 1042 00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:56.960 That's talk? What do you say to the cops when 1043 00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:01.599 you call them? There's a child's paying Olympics sing himself 1044 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:06.440 on our porch? Do I give him a fucking Hershey's bar? 1045 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.280 What does he need? I think we need an ambulance. 1046 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:12.320 He's got a sweater on and he's married. 1047 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:13.760 Do you see how respectful and quiet on? 1048 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:15.400 He's pretty burnt up? 1049 00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:15.880 Bad? 1050 00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:17.840 Stop trying to be an ally. 1051 00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:21.360 I'm Mary, Mike. Let Mary talk hello? 1052 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.960 Please only doing for the validation this dick. 1053 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:30.239 His dick is cut in half. Pretty bad he just 1054 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:36.079 exploded into a mist of com I guess he's gone. 1055 00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:37.760 Never mind, it's fine. 1056 00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:40.119 Brought to you by A twenty four. 1057 00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:42.679 What have you seen? 1058 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:48.480 Both of you? It's another movie from A twenty four. 1059 00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:49.840 It's called Talk to Me. 1060 00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.360 Really these days, damn it. 1061 00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:57.400 It's A twenty four's highest grossing film, so it's really small. 1062 00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.079 Talk to Me. It's a high g. 1063 00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.800 I think it's made in Australia because everybody has Australian accents. 1064 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:10.079 I assume it is. It's an interesting concept, so I'll 1065 00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:11.480 do my best to tldr it. 1066 00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:14.920 The concept is is there is like a disembodied hand 1067 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:18.039 that these like high schooler kids have gotten their hands on, 1068 00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:21.199 and they understand the system. You like, light a candle, 1069 00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:25.679 and when you touch this disembodied hand, a dead person 1070 00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:27.000 will appear in front of you. 1071 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:29.079 And if you say I let you. 1072 00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.519 In, then the dead person goes into your body and 1073 00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:35.119 is you for like as long as they let you 1074 00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:39.480 is the dead person not always, but like they might 1075 00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:43.440 not be a good person. Some people are dead because 1076 00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:46.119 of an accident. Well, so the reason the kids like 1077 00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:48.400 doing it is kind of like almost like a high. 1078 00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:51.239 They like doing it because when somebody enters you. It's 1079 00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:53.719 like a crazy feeling that you're not yourself and like 1080 00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:57.599 a dead person got to like be in your body. 1081 00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:58.440 Is that's crazy. 1082 00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:00.559 But then all the kids use their phone to like 1083 00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:05.880 film what happens because they sometimes say or do crazy stuff. 1084 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:08.639 Because they are conscious of what their body's doing during they. 1085 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:11.519 Don't know they don't know during the possession what's happening, 1086 00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:14.199 but they have like crazy vibes and feelings. But you 1087 00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:17.639 have to get out within like sixty to ninety seconds 1088 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:20.840 or the person who's in your body wants to stay, 1089 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.840 and then there's like an incident where essentially, like you know, 1090 00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:26.159 you could kind of see where it's going, but like 1091 00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:29.639 if you don't get the person out in time, then 1092 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:32.559 the person that the dead person wants to stay in 1093 00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.519 the body and it causes all these crazy complications. I 1094 00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:38.400 actually think it's quite good, but I will preface this 1095 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:40.920 with a low budget, so like don't go into this 1096 00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:45.880 expecting like really cool graph It's mostly like dialogue and 1097 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:51.000 just kind of creepy conceptual things that's happening. But it's 1098 00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:54.039 all you know, students are you know, kids in school 1099 00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:57.239 that are going through this like super traumatic crazy stuff. 1100 00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.960 I thought it was a neat concept, and I like 1101 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.440 the way it was executed. But I also think, like, 1102 00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:04.760 if you're one of those people that are like, don't 1103 00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.039 go in there, you'll die, you'll hate this film because 1104 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.320 it's it's high school kids, so they make nothing but 1105 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:11.559 terrible decisions. 1106 00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:12.800 This entire film. 1107 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:16.119 All they do is make awful, awful choices, So you 1108 00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:17.800 have to go into it being like, these kids are dumb. 1109 00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:19.960 They'll probably all die. Like I'm not going to stress 1110 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:20.360 about that. 1111 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:24.360 I I like getting recommendations from you, Mary, because I 1112 00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:26.960 feel like you have not really missed. And the latest 1113 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:28.840 one that we took you up on was Barbarian. 1114 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.559 Yeah, that one was so much better than this. I'm 1115 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:33.679 a little worried. I can't live that up. 1116 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.000 I don't think this is I actually when this movie 1117 00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:37.519 was over, I was like I didn't like it, and 1118 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.320 then I slept on it and I was like, it's 1119 00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:41.760 it's actually not that bad. But I don't want to 1120 00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:44.360 overhype this at all. This is no Barbarian. This is 1121 00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.280 this is a low budget Let me try and preface 1122 00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:49.360 this is like an indie game equivalent. This is low 1123 00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:54.760 budget student not student grade, but like lower quality film 1124 00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:58.480 with student act like you know, young teen actors that 1125 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:01.199 I was like, hey, not too shabby, but I don't 1126 00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:02.519 think it's that good. 1127 00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:04.920 So I'm a little worried. 1128 00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:05.159 Now. 1129 00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.199 I feel like you're gonna see this and be like Mary, 1130 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:07.880 that was not I. 1131 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.840 Feel like you've couched it properly. I feel like you 1132 00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:12.760 built up quite a bit, but then you sold. 1133 00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:17.639 I feel so strongly about Barbarian. I mean, like, I 1134 00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:20.400 think the movies just kind of dumb. I I really 1135 00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:23.239 do like watching horror movies. I watch them all the time, 1136 00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:25.960 and I feel like I would like to do like 1137 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:28.400 a maybe, Mike, that's something we do a bonus of 1138 00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:31.119 of like top like you know, fifty or one hundred 1139 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:33.360 horror movies. Because I've seen so many now, I have 1140 00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:36.719 gotten quite finicky with what I think is like the 1141 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:40.360 quintessential horror films that everyone has to see. Now with 1142 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.519 Halloween a coming, which I know that probably sounds insane 1143 00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:46.400 because it's like July, but this is actually the time 1144 00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:48.480 when I start thinking about my Halloween costume because they 1145 00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:50.679 usually take about three months to build, So like, I 1146 00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:52.559 don't fuck around, like I have to start thinking about 1147 00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:52.880 it now. 1148 00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:57.719 Uh. The Barbarian directors' new movie is coming out in like. 1149 00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:00.760 Zach krecor webone again. 1150 00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:04.639 It's that trailer where all those like kids are oh 1151 00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.719 like like running out where like, yeah, what's his name? 1152 00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:12.199 The anime I'm so excited about Naruto. 1153 00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:19.599 Yeah, I'm seeing there's some are there early reviews out weapons. 1154 00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:23.119 Gregor August eighth, it's coming out, so it's such a 1155 00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:23.960 creepy trailer. 1156 00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:26.840 They I'll tell you what that and Barbarian. 1157 00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:28.960 They know how to make a trailer because it was 1158 00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.159 so brilliant about the Barbarian trailer. 1159 00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:33.480 Now, Dan, did you see. 1160 00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.119 You were so adamant not Yeah I did. After the 1161 00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.480 fact I watched it, it was like, oh, that's really good. 1162 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:43.639 It's a brilliant trailer because they resturrect you like she's 1163 00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.599 it's it's like a scene where she's like, oh, something's 1164 00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:49.159 wrong and the guy's like there's nothing wrong, there's nothing wrong, 1165 00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:50.360 and you're like that guy's bad. 1166 00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:51.880 It's all misdirection. 1167 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.000 It's like there's also the trailer where they're like justin 1168 00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:59.440 Long's new movie, like a couplets that is so risky 1169 00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:02.239 like that I respect that so much because, like you know, 1170 00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:06.519 marketing people at any fucking big movie company have got 1171 00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.000 to be like, no, you can't do that. 1172 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:08.760 That's not gonna like. 1173 00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:10.480 You know, you got to show the monster. 1174 00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:11.199 Yeah I can't. 1175 00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:14.079 So like whoever, whatever battles they fought to make sure 1176 00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:17.320 they like hid what that movie was good on them, 1177 00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:18.440 Like that's fucking awesome. 1178 00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:21.480 I think in the horror genre, at least it is 1179 00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:25.039 understood that you don't you don't actually want to show 1180 00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:28.719 the the bad thing, like it's it's a Jaws, that's 1181 00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.440 Jaws rules, where it's like, you know, we don't see 1182 00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:32.440 it for half the movie, ye don't see it. You know, 1183 00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:35.000 you got to build the anticipation and the fear and 1184 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:35.960 the concerns and. 1185 00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:38.559 All that stuff. So yeah, I'm really excited about that. 1186 00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:40.119 I think there's gonna be it's gonna be a good 1187 00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:42.800 Q three of scary movies. 1188 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:44.800 So I'm looking forward to it. 1189 00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:47.559 One battle after another. Paul Thomas Anderson's new movie. We've 1190 00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:51.559 seen the trailer for that. Uh no, it's based on Uh, 1191 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.719 I forget who wrote the book, but uh Leonardo DiCaprio. 1192 00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:58.239 It's like this rebel sect that's rising up during a 1193 00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:01.719 revolution Benicio del Toro. But watch the trailer Leo is 1194 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:03.320 just the biggest slob ever. 1195 00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.920 Really, yeah he should. 1196 00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:13.519 Oh, he's on his way. The last couple of films 1197 00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:15.559 he's been and I'm like, you do this did not 1198 00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:20.679 do well for you. Like, he's obviously a very cute man, 1199 00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.840 but at some point they've really, they've really let himself go. 1200 00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:27.760 I saw Killers of the Flower Moon finally on an 1201 00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:30.920 airplane because I had I had like eight booblous hours 1202 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:33.199 to kill and I was like, I might as well 1203 00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:34.920 watch this film. 1204 00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:38.559 And it is so so long, and. 1205 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:39.920 It's one of the only times I think I've fallen 1206 00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:41.960 asleep in a movie. 1207 00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:46.400 It's unnecessarily long. I think it really insists on itself. 1208 00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:51.760 But holy shit, they it insists upon itself. Leonardo DiCaprio, 1209 00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:54.079 they like, at no point were like, no, he doesn't 1210 00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:55.679 need to look good in this, Like they just make 1211 00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:57.719 him look like a piece of shit the entire film. 1212 00:55:57.719 --> 00:55:58.880 And I I respect that. 1213 00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:03.719 Oh yeah, look up the tra for one battle after another. Yeah, no, 1214 00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:06.719 the Killer's the Flower Moon. We went to the Alamo 1215 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:11.599 in fight. I here in New York and my Amanda 1216 00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.760 and my friends and my friend they both fell asleep, 1217 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:17.039 So me and my buddy, my friend's wife or sorry, 1218 00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:21.599 my friend's husband were awake and we had just ordered 1219 00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:24.599 four espresso Martiniz to all stay awake, So me and 1220 00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:26.639 him had to end up drinking to a piece and 1221 00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:28.400 I still fell asleep during that movie. 1222 00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:31.199 It's like me and Mike seeing Rambo five and getting 1223 00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.199 too many white cloths, like spilling it all over each. 1224 00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:39.880 Yeah, yeah, because that was fucking wow. Let's let's move 1225 00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:43.880 from my opinions about Rambo five. No, it's awesome. 1226 00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.159 The thing I'm curious about is he brought up Leo 1227 00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:49.599 and A twenty four and reminded you I heard of 1228 00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:50.960 this new Scorsese movie he's making. 1229 00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:53.360 It's supposed to be like a good Fella. 1230 00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:56.199 Style thing with like it's about this real life mob 1231 00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.639 boss that was in Hawaii and it's Leo and then 1232 00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:02.880 the is gonna play the mob boss in this Scorsese movie. 1233 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:05.880 He especially the super charismatic mob boss, and like Rock, 1234 00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:09.360 like I'm seeing it happen like right now. Where the 1235 00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:11.800 Rock was doing his big kind of like action movie thing, 1236 00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:13.440 he's trying to be the new Arnold doing is you know, 1237 00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:17.119 rundowns and walking talls and all that and fast fives 1238 00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:19.639 and all that shit. And then he that kind of 1239 00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:21.559 stalled out. You know, it seems like that Black Adam 1240 00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:24.719 thing really damaged his reputation in Hollywood. And he has 1241 00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:27.760 like numerous projects in the works right now that are 1242 00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:31.679 all like clearly like a determined career swing where it's 1243 00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:34.239 an A twenty four movie by this one of the 1244 00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:37.400 safties I think it's Benny Safty. Oh where the UFC 1245 00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.239 thing where he plays that UFC guy. He looks fucking 1246 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:41.400 crazy and it's him and Emily Blunt and the trailer 1247 00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:43.119 and like he looks nuts and it's clearly like a 1248 00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.480 real movie, like an A twenty four thing. There's this 1249 00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:48.199 Scorsese thing where he's gonna be this mob boss and 1250 00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:51.239 there was Oh, it's a Darren Aronofsky movie. So he's 1251 00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.239 gonna and Darren Aronofsky's the movie he's sitting like the 1252 00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:55.880 late nineties. He's gonna be this like charismatic kind of 1253 00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:00.119 like you know, Tony Robbins guru type or whatever. So 1254 00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.880 it's like I'm curious how he does. Like, can you 1255 00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:06.800 guys picture the rock as people are wrestling people, so 1256 00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:08.880 you're not tainted by the wrestling aspect. 1257 00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:10.679 No, I mean, I've seen enough of it. I think 1258 00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:13.119 he's got that star power, like not the star power, 1259 00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:14.840 I think he's got the acting shops where it's like 1260 00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.679 I feel like Batista was also kind of did this 1261 00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:18.159 not well. 1262 00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:19.840 But he's started with that, you know. I mean, but 1263 00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:21.440 he's a did like Guardians and stuff like that. But 1264 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.599 like Batista was like doing really thoughtful twenty forty nine. 1265 00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:25.280 That's what I'm saying. 1266 00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:27.360 He was like moving away from the rocks lane. 1267 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.800 I think Batista also like did I think he like 1268 00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:33.480 earned a little bit more of his chops by doing 1269 00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:38.480 like more humble roles, whereas like I've I've kind of 1270 00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:42.679 gotten a little sour on uh, Dwayne Johnson just because 1271 00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:47.119 I feel like he's taking himself much more seriously. I 1272 00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:49.280 I just haven't seen anything where I'm like, now, this 1273 00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:52.960 is acting. It's usually the same goddamn goop. 1274 00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:56.519 Yeah, like charismatic Smiley, you know, Blockbuster guy. That's why 1275 00:58:56.519 --> 00:58:59.599 I'm wondering, like, with three like kind of artsy, big 1276 00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:02.719 name movies coming up, I wonder if he will do 1277 00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:05.679 this pivot successfully. I'm very very curious to watch this. 1278 00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:09.719 I don't know that all three of those directors and 1279 00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:11.920 I've said my Peet. When Drew was here, Daniel rout 1280 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.519 I talked about how I think Darren Aronowski makes a 1281 00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:18.840 lot of shitty movies. I don't know that Scorsese and 1282 00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:23.800 what would whether it's Benny or I forget Ben's brother's name, 1283 00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:27.079 every one of his I don't know that they would 1284 00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:29.760 have like cast him just because he's trying to make 1285 00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.960 this pivot, like he must have shown something or like. 1286 00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:36.559 Clear he's extremely talented, he's insane, and like you're talking 1287 00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:39.400 about Batista being humble, like Rock is the least humble 1288 00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:41.960 guy in the world. But like, yeah, I wonder if 1289 00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:44.440 I do think he might have the chops like Mike 1290 00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:45.480 to what you were saying. 1291 00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:50.719 Yeah, when I see it, I want to think, like 1292 00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:55.519 Adam Sandler would have been good in uh Punch for 1293 00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:57.280 people Safty Brothers. 1294 00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:00.360 Again, I would prefer them to take the risk, even 1295 01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:02.760 fail and be like, Wow, they tried something outside of 1296 01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:05.920 their wheelhouse. Then be like the same one trick pony 1297 01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:08.559 their whole career. So like, good on him for putting 1298 01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:11.719 in the energy and earning it. I just haven't seen, 1299 01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.119 I haven't been validated yet that like they actually can't 1300 01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:15.519 do it. 1301 01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:17.360 Yeah, it'll be interesting. 1302 01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:20.239 I think we were robbed of you broughtut a Sandler 1303 01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:22.280 and how he made the turn and punched drunk and uncut. 1304 01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:24.880 I think there was a world where if Chris Farley 1305 01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:29.679 had survived. I think that man was so unbelievably talented 1306 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:32.599 and charismatic that we could have seen a Sandler ask 1307 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:35.639 like Chris Farley could win an Oscar if he had survived. 1308 01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:39.039 I think like that guy was just a ball of 1309 01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:41.639 chrisma and entertainment. But I think he would also have 1310 01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:43.679 like a darker side you could tap into and be 1311 01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:44.800 very very good at. 1312 01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:46.400 You know. I wonder if he would have had all 1313 01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:48.760 that if he wasn't living the way he was though. 1314 01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:51.800 That's yeah, so I don't know him and John Belushi. 1315 01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:54.480 But yeah, Norm, Norm could have won an Oscar. 1316 01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:58.239 What an actor? Yeah he's amazing. And what the fuck 1317 01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:00.000 funny bit? What is it called funny bit? 1318 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:00.559 Which one? 1319 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:07.079 Funny people? No funny business? What's the one where dirty work? 1320 01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:07.920 Dirty work? Yeah? 1321 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.840 Yeah, dirty work screwed? And yeah he's the worst actor 1322 01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:11.320 in the world. 1323 01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:12.719 He's in Billy Madison too. 1324 01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:15.880 Briefly, Sandler gets his friends paid for sure. 1325 01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:19.480 All right, you want to talk about video games? Yabe. 1326 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:24.000 All right. Uh, if you follow Giant b on you 1327 01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:27.920 probably know Dan. You have taken the turn and started 1328 01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:31.440 playing Claire Obscurity Exhibition thirty three. Fill the fire escape 1329 01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:33.480 people in. What are your thoughts? How far are you 1330 01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:35.639 before you had? I not played any of it last 1331 01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:38.639 time we talked expedansion, So is that a is that 1332 01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:39.679 a series or was it just one? 1333 01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:39.880 Oh? 1334 01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:42.280 No, it was just one stream. But you're playing in 1335 01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:44.599 your free time the whole game. 1336 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:48.000 So if you're worried about spoil, I'm gonna talk generally 1337 01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:49.440 about where I'm at in the game. So mute. 1338 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:51.599 If you need to have you both beat it. 1339 01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:56.440 Uh, No, I forget. I forget again. I forget everything 1340 01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:58.360 we ever talk about. No, are you both into it? 1341 01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:01.159 I talked to a friend and apparently I'm like two 1342 01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:01.960 hours from the end. 1343 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:06.320 I treat death stranding like you treat j RPGs death 1344 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:08.159 stranding disrespectfully. 1345 01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:17.400 Yeah, she's primed to wow death strand attack death Stranding 1346 01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:21.000 to expression thirty three. I love it. 1347 01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:26.239 I'm going up to the Patress's heart. Oh okay, okay, 1348 01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:29.559 I'm like at the monolith, so. 1349 01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:34.400 You're yeah, so like five sixths of the way through, probably. 1350 01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:38.039 It feels like I'm yeah closed, yeah, yeah. 1351 01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:40.119 I'm yeah. Okay, so you you mad? You covered some ground, 1352 01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:41.000 You're not far behind me. 1353 01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:45.360 Actually, yeah, Mary, what's your uh status on that status? 1354 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:46.159 On the game? 1355 01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:47.719 Are you playing thirty three? 1356 01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:51.960 I'm actively I haven't played it at least in two weeks, 1357 01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:53.480 so I haven't played it in a while. 1358 01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.599 I'd love how you first started the sentence, I'm actively well, 1359 01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:00.280 I haven't played in two weeks. 1360 01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:03.079 Active in the sense that I haven't quit, and I 1361 01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:06.199 would traveling a lot. You'll notice that all of my 1362 01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:08.199 games are games that you can play on a Steam 1363 01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:09.039 deck or phone. 1364 01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:11.880 Nothing wrong with a bit of the beginning of this year. 1365 01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:15.840 I've just been traveling so much. But I do I have, 1366 01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:18.079 I am, I haven't quit yet, I like would like 1367 01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:18.960 to complete the game. 1368 01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:21.920 So let's do this. Let's do oh cat debut here, 1369 01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:26.400 Let's do a fuse. Let's bring the fuse. Let's dust 1370 01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:28.880 it off for where we are right now. If the 1371 01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:32.159 game ended right where we're at, I'll start. I think 1372 01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:33.480 I would give this a nine. 1373 01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:37.280 Oh okay, if you had, if you had, if you 1374 01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:40.840 had asked me an hour two hours prior in the game, 1375 01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:44.400 I would have been a nine, I will say, and 1376 01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:48.840 this is uh hmm, this is tough. It's one of 1377 01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:51.400 those games. Once you see where the ending is going, 1378 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:53.880 or you think it's going, it's hard to give an 1379 01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:56.719 opinion on it. Like your opinion itself almost kind of 1380 01:03:56.760 --> 01:04:00.519 spoils stuff at the end. Okay, well, then try lightly. 1381 01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:03.239 That means just assume I was at the same point 1382 01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:05.280 in the game as you. I would have probably also 1383 01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:05.800 said nine. 1384 01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:08.800 Okay, So basically, something happens and you're less. 1385 01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:12.719 Yes, I think once the ending kicks in the gear 1386 01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:16.360 and maybe something completely reverses again, but once you see 1387 01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:19.599 the turn they take, I'm like, ah, not my cup 1388 01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:20.039 of tea. 1389 01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:23.119 Well put it this way. If it's a story based thing, yeah, 1390 01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:25.440 there's not much. Like they could just shit their pants 1391 01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:28.440 on credits and I would like still give us a nine. 1392 01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:31.360 Like I like the story. I'm more invested in the 1393 01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:34.440 story than I certainly expected to be, but like, just 1394 01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:36.599 the moment to moment has been so fun. I don't 1395 01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:39.440 think any narrative thing could hurt my opinion at this point. 1396 01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:43.559 I feel like right now I'm at a seven. And 1397 01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:47.280 that's really mostly because despite the fact that Mike you 1398 01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:50.159 described the combat system really well when you were playing it. 1399 01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:53.320 It's very intricate. But for me, I just don't care 1400 01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:57.199 about stances and like the learning a different combat person 1401 01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:00.480 for each I think it's a bit too concluded. This 1402 01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:03.239 is a personal subjective opinion. I think the game is 1403 01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:06.360 probably excellent for what it is. These are just not 1404 01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:09.760 games I usually play. And I'm like, God, damn it, 1405 01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:12.599 do I have to like memorize each system and like 1406 01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:15.320 use the same system of lighting them on fire and 1407 01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:17.639 then using this girl because she does more damage when 1408 01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:19.679 they're on fire, and then using this guy because he's 1409 01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:22.639 at his tenth hit so he can do like the 1410 01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:25.000 super damage whatever. And it's just like, I don't know. 1411 01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:26.800 I think what I'm saying is is I think the 1412 01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:28.360 game is very good. I just don't think the game 1413 01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.079 is Generally, these types of games are not for me. 1414 01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:32.119 That's all I'm saying. 1415 01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:35.760 It's that's how I typically have been with the turn 1416 01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:39.400 based RPGs. But like that the snappiness of the combat 1417 01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:42.920 and just how good those counters feel, and something like 1418 01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:43.519 the counters. 1419 01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:45.239 I do like systems too. 1420 01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:47.480 Like the thing I don't like in turn based RPGs 1421 01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:50.039 is just feeling like I'm selecting something from a menu 1422 01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:52.360 and then I just watch something. I don't feel like 1423 01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:54.320 I'm planning a game. I'm just Oh, I picked the thing, 1424 01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:55.119 and now I watch it. 1425 01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:58.519 You have to be active because to do the damage correctly, 1426 01:05:58.559 --> 01:05:59.519 you have to hit the button at the. 1427 01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:02.760 Exact right time. Plus you have to be ready for counters. Yeah. 1428 01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:05.639 Yes, and I love like I have not dodged a 1429 01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:09.880 single fucking time past the tutorial. I perry every I 1430 01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:10.840 don't hit it every time. 1431 01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:12.599 I hit a lot sometimes. 1432 01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:16.440 Oh yeah the jump thing in the yeah yeah, yeah, 1433 01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:17.199 but I never die. 1434 01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:20.320 Never ever. Love. You kill an enemy with one of those, 1435 01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:23.199 like you jump and then fucking blast them and then 1436 01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:26.480 the sun they all hit. Yeah, so fucking good. 1437 01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.000 But I actually like the systems stuff because like I 1438 01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.639 do can like the systems. It's not a game. It's 1439 01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:34.320 not a game system in the way like an action 1440 01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:36.119 game has like a Devil may Cry. I'm not, like, 1441 01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:38.360 you know, do an active battle. But the systems do 1442 01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:40.480 make me think like, okay, so I need to get 1443 01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:43.519 my l in virtuoso stands. I need to do every 1444 01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:45.480 possible Illuminia, what's that. 1445 01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.679 Fucking If you build her correctly and you can keep 1446 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:50.159 her sorry continue. 1447 01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:52.320 Yeah, yeah, oh I know, because like I'm trying to 1448 01:06:52.320 --> 01:06:55.199 find ways like all of the stuff. Whenever there's new skills, 1449 01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:58.800 anything that like keeps your in Virtuoso stands longer or 1450 01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:01.159 illumina is that kind of help that or whatever. It's like, okay, well, 1451 01:07:01.280 --> 01:07:03.840 so like the fire damage and mark is great on her, 1452 01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:07.199 So I'll give these guys more stuff that cause burn 1453 01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:09.400 and marking, and then I'll try to set it up 1454 01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:10.199 so there before her. 1455 01:07:10.280 --> 01:07:12.840 Its like I love that shit. It's like a logic puzzle, 1456 01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:15.119 Like I think it is great, and it's like it's 1457 01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:17.480 one of those games where I don't know, I'm in 1458 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:19.599 the shower. I'm like, oh fuck, I wonder if combining 1459 01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:22.320 those two would help would like work, But I got 1460 01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:25.920 Mile to basically, and I kind of I will. I 1461 01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:28.719 love how they let you break the game. It's almost 1462 01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:30.679 like Blatro esque in the way they're like, if you 1463 01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:32.360 figure out how to break it, we're not going to 1464 01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:37.760 stop you, even against major bosses. So Mile basically yeah 1465 01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:41.800 you like yeah, Mary, like I I somewhat agree for sure, Like, 1466 01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:44.480 especially every single character I think I said this last 1467 01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.079 time feels like they're pulled from a different RPG because 1468 01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:50.039 their systems how they work are so different, and it's 1469 01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:52.239 funny to me, Gustav is so boring compared to everybody 1470 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:54.679 else his combat, Like it's fun it's dumb. It's like 1471 01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:58.239 build up, build up until this like huge, uh, like 1472 01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:02.000 all out of there, and like there are obviously intricacies 1473 01:08:02.039 --> 01:08:04.679 to that, but miles like I got her set up, 1474 01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:07.840 so I use the there's the ability where she can 1475 01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:11.159 pass her turn basically to remain in the same stance, 1476 01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:17.000 but also build up automatically three AP. But then there's 1477 01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:21.439 another one where yees, if she hits a marked target, 1478 01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:24.000 she'll gain three AP and stay in the same stance. 1479 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:25.560 So if I have not gotten the chance to do 1480 01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:29.520 a mark target yet, then it won't matter. However, I 1481 01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:35.359 started building up what's the mage's the elemental mage's name Lune. 1482 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:38.680 I build up her speed so much too, and also 1483 01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:42.640 I use the luminae where she always goes first, so 1484 01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:46.039 she's basically marking everybody, setting everybody on fire. And then 1485 01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:47.800 by the time it gets to myle who's still in 1486 01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:51.159 virtuosa stance, she does passe and a passe is the 1487 01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:52.720 one the sword comes out of the ground, stabs them 1488 01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:53.680 in their asshole. Basically. 1489 01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:55.640 Oh, so that's the one that's normally five, but then 1490 01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:57.640 it's two when you're in virtuosa, Right, that's the one 1491 01:08:57.680 --> 01:08:58.760 I always build towards it. 1492 01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:01.319 It sucks everything ups, but and then if you build 1493 01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:04.640 it up to you can again. You can build up 1494 01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:06.399 three if you just pass your turn, and it'll keep 1495 01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:10.000 her in the stance she was in. Oh yeah, it's uh, 1496 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.600 I forget what it's called. But yeah, the the synergies 1497 01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:18.760 between the characters are great. I also really really like 1498 01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:22.760 how you can realize halfway through a battle that you're 1499 01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:25.920 under leveled. Yes, but you could still pull it off 1500 01:09:26.159 --> 01:09:29.319 because if you use the real time elements correctly. But 1501 01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:31.760 but there's certain fights I will say, I think it 1502 01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:33.840 was halfway through the game when you start fighting, uh, 1503 01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:36.800 what were their names? The Something Maiden, the ones who 1504 01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:38.520 stab themselves in the stomach to gain. 1505 01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:40.800 The oh, the the they get like six armor. 1506 01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:44.359 Yes, and if you you have to jump to dodge 1507 01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:45.800 the swipe, and then if. 1508 01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:48.319 The third one you can block, block and then jump. 1509 01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:50.880 I think something like No, there's one where they stab 1510 01:09:50.880 --> 01:09:52.600 themselves and they pull it out and just swipe and 1511 01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:59.359 you jump. I've never tried jumping. So if you what 1512 01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:04.000 happens if you Harriet does one character counter attack, it 1513 01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:05.880 just acts like a normal Perry, like any other perry, 1514 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:08.680 which is one you don't take, you don't take damage. 1515 01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:13.760 And yeah, okay, so that's what's cool. If you jump, 1516 01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:18.159 if you do the jump and R two, yeah, all 1517 01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:20.079 three of them will hit them. It'll count as three 1518 01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:22.760 hits and they'll lose three shields. Oh that's it. And 1519 01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:26.880 I learned that on accident because at a certain point, 1520 01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:28.760 I'm trying to think of how I can explain this 1521 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.119 because I realize I'm like, oh fuck, I actually stand 1522 01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:33.279 to benefit more from not attacking them right now. What 1523 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:38.920 was it? Oh? Okay, so I realized, okay, I'm about 1524 01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:43.359 to hit them. They have on one shield left right now. 1525 01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:45.079 I know they're about to do the stab themselves in 1526 01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:50.319 the stomach and swipe, so they'll have four shields. And 1527 01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:53.840 if I were to attack right now with Mile, Mile 1528 01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:57.479 doesn't have that many multi hit moves. She has several. 1529 01:10:57.720 --> 01:10:59.720 She's got the one that does fire damage or whatever, 1530 01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:04.079 and that's like two or three hits. But the fourth 1531 01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:06.880 character you get, she has a lot of multi hit attacks. 1532 01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:11.319 So if I use that ability of Miles to just 1533 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:14.640 gain three AP and not even hit the maiden, and 1534 01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:19.279 I'll stay in virtuoso. They'll all jump counter attack, that'll lose. 1535 01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:22.399 That'll basically almost cancel out the stab themselves in the 1536 01:11:22.439 --> 01:11:25.640 stomach attack because they'll do three armor damage. My next 1537 01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:29.840 character will then do her like four move attack, the 1538 01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:32.840 armor will be gone, Miles primed to just assassinate them 1539 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:36.159 with puss. So it's like, oh, I actually stand to 1540 01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:40.439 benefit more from not just all out normal attacking them 1541 01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:43.439 right now, because otherwise I'm wasting myles stance and AP 1542 01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:46.319 and whatnot. So I'm going to bide her time use 1543 01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:49.279 my character that's got the double edged Darth maul sythe 1544 01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:52.319 who can do more armor damage one way. 1545 01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:57.159 Like that's my party is like say the names, Yeah, 1546 01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:01.720 I do, Verso cl A and my l are my three, 1547 01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:02.560 and I've kind of just. 1548 01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:06.159 Sorry Verso Cel and my oh so you don't you 1549 01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:07.359 you got you got rid of Lunae. 1550 01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:10.680 Yeah, I like Luna and then weird fucking face mask 1551 01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:12.840 guy or whatever, like they've got some interesting stuff going on, 1552 01:12:12.920 --> 01:12:15.000 but like that's my main three right now. 1553 01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:17.520 Yeah. I Cel was one of those ones where oh 1554 01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:20.000 I had a dumb moment with cel I was like, wow, 1555 01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:23.680 she is very weak. I didn't realize they did not 1556 01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:26.920 auto assign her stat points when I got her my party, 1557 01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:32.279 I already just sitting there. She was tough to figure out. 1558 01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:34.920 But once you figure her out, and again, like each character, 1559 01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:36.560 like oh god, I got to wrap my head around 1560 01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:40.399 an entire new battle system for this each character, she 1561 01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:43.479 was awesome, like the cool interplay. Basically, you're trying to 1562 01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:45.880 build up two currencies with her, so it's like, Okay, 1563 01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:47.399 I'm trying to build out the light and dark to 1564 01:12:47.560 --> 01:12:50.640 enter Twilight when they're even, but also spending this one 1565 01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:52.840 is going to generate this spending that's going to generate 1566 01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:56.520 something else, so you really are thinking about it starts 1567 01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:57.760 getting you in that chest mindset. 1568 01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:00.079 It is very complicated where it's like, okay, well, if 1569 01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:01.960 I'm in Twilight, I can build up to twenty four 1570 01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:03.800 tail on this. So when I'm in Twilight, that's when 1571 01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:05.600 I want to build up foretel and then I will 1572 01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:08.640 you know, extinguish the stuff and then gain Twilight again. 1573 01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:10.640 Like it's it took me a while. That was one 1574 01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:12.680 where I was about to be like this is too confusing, 1575 01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:14.800 but I just kind of bird forced understanding it, and 1576 01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:16.119 I'm glad I did because. 1577 01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:18.640 She's also just cool. Her double edged scythes are really cool, 1578 01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:20.720 but like she's awesome. That's I bring up a lootro 1579 01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:24.560 just because that game, like I will say, it's not 1580 01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:28.399 as gradual or as masterful of a ramp up as 1581 01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:33.199 Billatro is to how you can break the game, but 1582 01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:35.640 the tools are there for you to just dismantle the 1583 01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:38.119 game if you want to. I will say, like once 1584 01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:41.920 I really really started, like I was staring at the 1585 01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:46.039 illuminae screen for a while, and what else are they 1586 01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:49.840 called the portos or no, I'm playing something elsetose pictos. 1587 01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:51.680 I'll stare at the pictose screen for a while. I'm like, okay, 1588 01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:53.680 would she benefit from this? And then there's the cool 1589 01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:57.640 system where basically if someone uses that pictos in several 1590 01:13:57.720 --> 01:13:59.960 successful battles, he then unlock it as a permanent past, 1591 01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:02.960 which is great. So then you're just kind of like, Okay, well, 1592 01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:06.479 I don't want to spend seven on of my illuminates 1593 01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:10.279 on this. I want to just or I don't want 1594 01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:12.800 to spend seven on, so I'll actively equip it and 1595 01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:15.199 then I'll use that these the rest of these luminates 1596 01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:18.680 to passively equip these other ones. This all probably makes 1597 01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:20.000 way more sense if you play the game and or 1598 01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:21.399 look at that screen, but that's the best I can 1599 01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:24.399 describe it. So then it's like I've spent. There's been 1600 01:14:24.520 --> 01:14:26.399 sessions where I sit down to play it and I 1601 01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:28.560 spent And this might not sound that fun, but it 1602 01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:31.039 was to me. I spent like seventy five percent of 1603 01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:35.079 the two hours, like theory crafting the characters and like, uh, 1604 01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:37.000 would this really work, and then trying it out and 1605 01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:38.239 be like all right, well, I still kick the shit 1606 01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:39.479 out of them, but like I still feel like I 1607 01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:42.840 could push this mid max it to the Mac, like 1608 01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:46.880 just all out in order to really use these characters 1609 01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:48.840 how I feel like they should be well. 1610 01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:51.359 And speaking of that, like, am I correct in like 1611 01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:53.800 thinking that you can't go more than nine nine nine 1612 01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:57.840 nine damage in a single attack, like a single I've 1613 01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:00.319 never seen higher than that, like a single like a hack, 1614 01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:04.039 like when I do like, oh they're marked in on 1615 01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:07.079 fire and I use my l's sword pillar thing, I've 1616 01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:09.239 never seen a number higher than nine nine ninety nine 1617 01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:11.439 as the attack, which is confusing me because I feel like, 1618 01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:12.760 I've heard a lot of people be like I was 1619 01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:14.920 over leveled. I one shot of the boss, and I've 1620 01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:17.399 been picturing like, oh, you killed the boss with the 1621 01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:19.359 one hit. But I'm like, wait, it seems like ten 1622 01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:21.439 thousand is about the most you can do. Does that 1623 01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:24.039 mean that just in one turn before the boss could attack? Like, 1624 01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:29.039 I'm confused by that. I don't know what have you 1625 01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:30.800 done damage more than ten thousand? 1626 01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:33.880 I want to say, yeah, but maybe I'm just imagining it. 1627 01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:35.560 But to me, one shotting a boss means you beat 1628 01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:38.960 them on the first tryst attack or first turn. No 1629 01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:41.920 one shot what I don't know. One shot has never 1630 01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.000 applied to a turn based game for me. One shot 1631 01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:46.720 in a souls born game to me is you beat 1632 01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:50.159 them on the first try. Oh okay, well if that's 1633 01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:52.920 the I don't know how your point in your defense, 1634 01:15:52.960 --> 01:15:54.479 I don't know what those people mean in terms of 1635 01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:55.199 a turn based game. 1636 01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:57.359 I didn't know that was like a souls burn term 1637 01:15:57.399 --> 01:15:59.279 for first try. That's probably what it might I mean. 1638 01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:00.720 I think it just goes back to the days where 1639 01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:02.359 any boss fight, if you beat them on the first try, 1640 01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:05.319 was a one first try. Okay, yeah, just first try you're. 1641 01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:07.159 Both right, thank you, Mary. 1642 01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:12.000 Yeah, no, I mean like for real, because you can't 1643 01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:15.680 get more damage until a certain point. 1644 01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:19.760 Oh well, maybe I have got to that point, that's why. 1645 01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:22.840 Or is it new plus maybe you can go above that? 1646 01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:24.479 Maybe that would make sense if there is a new 1647 01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:28.039 gad bus. I actually don't know. Yeah, I'm glad you're 1648 01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:31.880 playing the game. Do you do you foresee this opening up? 1649 01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:35.800 You're like maybe trying out more turn based games in 1650 01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:38.239 the future, or is this one so specific blend of 1651 01:16:38.279 --> 01:16:39.000 real time term. 1652 01:16:40.119 --> 01:16:42.720 Special it does that it's not annoying. 1653 01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:44.920 And that's the thing, is like it's doing several things 1654 01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:47.199 that make me open to it where it is got 1655 01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:49.319 the kind of command based stuff where I'm doing things 1656 01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:51.399 in the middle of the fight, which keeps me engaged. 1657 01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:54.960 But also it's not just like fantasy tropes. I think 1658 01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:56.640 that's a big thing that has kept me from liking 1659 01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:58.119 a lot of these is I don't give a fuck 1660 01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:01.479 about swords and a kingdom and mages and stuff as 1661 01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:04.079 much like this is like a cool setting, and like 1662 01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:07.760 it sets up this entirely like this very original cool 1663 01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:10.760 setup of you know, the PAINTERSS and the number and 1664 01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:12.680 all that stuff, Like I think that's so cool where 1665 01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:16.239 it's like every fucking traditional not everyone obviously, you know, 1666 01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:17.880 like I like Corona Trigger that's kind of a different 1667 01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:19.920 setup and everything, Like I have like jay Air produced 1668 01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:22.800 in the past, but anytime it's just like, oh, here's 1669 01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:25.359 the king and here's though it's the most powerful wizard, 1670 01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:27.359 and there would be dragons, and it's like I don't 1671 01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:32.479 fucking care. I just don't care a And then it's 1672 01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:34.119 kind of the same way I would view zombie stuff, 1673 01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:35.880 where it's like I've seen this shit a million times. 1674 01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:38.199 It's never been interesting to me. I don't want to 1675 01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:39.760 keep seeing it. So it's like when this starts with 1676 01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:44.920 a completely unique story and characters in a storyline, it's. 1677 01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:45.920 Like, oh this, this is new to me. 1678 01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:48.079 This is cool, Like I can get into it, but 1679 01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:51.600 I am immediately turned off by just like fantasy trope 1680 01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:55.079 turn based RBG stuff, so like a Dragon Quest or something, 1681 01:17:55.159 --> 01:17:59.119 or most final fantasies I'm just not into. I've tried. 1682 01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:02.760 I've tried so many fucking final fantasies just because it's like, look, 1683 01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:06.039 I know this is a pillar of gaming history, but 1684 01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.520 most of them I just don't like playing at all. 1685 01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:11.800 But like you know, Final Fantasy fifteen, it's like, oh, 1686 01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:13.600 it's like a road trip. You're driving around the car, 1687 01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:16.159 and it's more it's not turn based and stuff like Okay, 1688 01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:18.520 that seems interesting, and I'll play like five hours of 1689 01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:21.479 it and be like, eh, whatever, it's earth Bound. I 1690 01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:23.520 want to try because that seems like it's a different 1691 01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:27.119 It is like that the combat seems very traditional JRBG 1692 01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:29.600 turn based, but the wrappings of it seems so much 1693 01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:33.359 more interesting sci fi suburt have you tried? Yeah, I 1694 01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:35.520 review the DS one. I review the d S one 1695 01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:37.399 and I loved it. I thought it was great. 1696 01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:40.279 Chrono trigger I feel like is a way to escape. 1697 01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:44.000 Yeah, yeah, And that's the thing I don't dislike every JRPG, 1698 01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:46.600 And like, you know, technically, you know those Mario Luigi's 1699 01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:48.600 and paper Mario is. Granted, it's got the Mario factor 1700 01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:50.399 going on, but I think more importantly it's got the 1701 01:18:50.439 --> 01:18:53.279 actual like kind of active stuff during the battles. You know, 1702 01:18:53.319 --> 01:18:55.680 That's the key thing for me. And I don't think 1703 01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:59.159 it's ever been better than I'm seeing in Clare Obscure. 1704 01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:02.199 Like I I find the battles thrilling, like if I 1705 01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:05.479 finish a story type beat. I will just fucking hop 1706 01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:08.479 on that fucking Ska is back and sail around and 1707 01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:11.760 fight every fucking Why did why did Mike Mahrty just 1708 01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:13.159 change my zoom name to David Buddy? 1709 01:19:13.439 --> 01:19:18.079 Can you do before? Todd? Ghak? Who's that? Just Seinfeld 1710 01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:19.079 supporting characters? 1711 01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:25.199 Okay, okay, Ska by the way, I love that dude, 1712 01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:30.239 that Mike. Do you the optional thing with the wine Mike? 1713 01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:30.880 No? 1714 01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:34.119 Oh my god, Mike, there's like a campfire thing. Because 1715 01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:36.239 I always talked to everyone of the campfire and check 1716 01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:40.079 in on everyone. There was just a scene where it's like, ESK, 1717 01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:43.199 I forgot what spurred this on, but Versa was just like, 1718 01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:46.159 oh yeah, I guess I'll tell you. Guys, like I 1719 01:19:46.279 --> 01:19:49.560 keep all my wine and inside SKA it's about like 1720 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:50.760 very fine vintages. 1721 01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:52.520 And someone mentions to me, I don't know how I 1722 01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:54.199 didn't come across. I guess he's just like. 1723 01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:56.920 Puking up wine into glasses and stuff like cl goes up, 1724 01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:00.560 and it was like, fill me up. Why comes out 1725 01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:02.680 of him? Because Verso keeps all this ship in him. 1726 01:20:04.279 --> 01:20:08.479 It's really good. It's rocky mind of my stomach. I 1727 01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:10.840 there's a wine thing in Destreating two that I noticed 1728 01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:16.880 as well. We'll get to that. But yeah, well, I 1729 01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:22.800 there's there's one game, so Octopath Traveler too. I think, 1730 01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:25.880 oh you did. Did you play the first one? 1731 01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:27.800 I loved that one, I didn't beat it, and I 1732 01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:29.079 didn't really do the second one. 1733 01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:32.520 Try the second one out when you get the chance. 1734 01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:36.319 The combat is just as crunchy like for a turn 1735 01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:41.720 based game. It's it's intricate. I think the storylines avoid 1736 01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:44.399 tropes pretty well. Eight different characters you can start with, 1737 01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:46.760 and then you're building up the party and each there's 1738 01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:48.199 a lot of side quests you're doing as you go 1739 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:50.800 around the world. So try that out because I think 1740 01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:52.720 that's got enough active stuff going on that the combat 1741 01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:54.039 might appeal to you in the way. 1742 01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:55.760 That I really like the first one. 1743 01:20:56.840 --> 01:20:59.520 That Try the second one. It's it's it blows up 1744 01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:05.399 the first one basically. Okay, Yeah, so I'm about I 1745 01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:08.359 think the hour count is something like twelve. In Death 1746 01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:12.079 Stranding two, I'm halfway across Australia. Halfway across Australia based 1747 01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:15.039 on the map. The last Cupid I connected or Cupid 1748 01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:16.119 I used to connect. 1749 01:21:16.079 --> 01:21:18.640 We should probably say spoiler's also for des stranding here. 1750 01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:20.399 So do you know what act you're in or what 1751 01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:21.159 chapter you're in? 1752 01:21:21.640 --> 01:21:21.920 Three? 1753 01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:24.279 You're in only in three? 1754 01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:27.680 Okay? Yeah? So okay, so the first one was just 1755 01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:31.720 called Sam, second one was Lou, the third was h. 1756 01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:32.520 I can't remember. 1757 01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:35.479 It's fragile or something, so you had it. You don't 1758 01:21:35.479 --> 01:21:40.000 know Neil much at all yet, m Okay, there's really 1759 01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:40.600 good stuff here. 1760 01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:41.960 Yeah, if you're looking at the map, you know how 1761 01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:45.960 when you you you insert the cupid or let it 1762 01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:49.439 hover whatever, and it connects. The map shows basically almost 1763 01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:50.760 half of Australia. 1764 01:21:51.319 --> 01:21:56.239 That's so confusedograph because I feel like, wow, I feel 1765 01:21:56.239 --> 01:21:57.680 like it didn't take long to be in like acts 1766 01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:00.760 six or chapter six or seven, just the you must 1767 01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:01.880 be doing a weird No. 1768 01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:05.000 I might be. I might be passed because like act Lou, 1769 01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:07.640 Act two or three was really quick. It was like 1770 01:22:07.640 --> 01:22:10.720 three cuts, scene two things. Yeah, act four, So I might. 1771 01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:12.439 I don't know, I might not have been paying enough attention. 1772 01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:15.000 But if you haven't done any like Neil flashback, or 1773 01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:18.760 like you haven't done any boss fights with No, so. 1774 01:22:19.640 --> 01:22:22.359 I know I've seen some of the area, so I 1775 01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:24.439 guess without spoiling anything, if you played the first game, 1776 01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:26.760 you do all that, Mads Michelson, flash back to different 1777 01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:33.199 American wars. I've seen some landscape stuff from like random 1778 01:22:33.239 --> 01:22:36.319 thumbnails and videos of what it looks like in this game. 1779 01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:38.439 To go back to those, it's like that Tetris effect 1780 01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:43.960 looking whatever like. But no, I it tells me the 1781 01:22:44.039 --> 01:22:46.199 last time I connected someone to the chiral network that 1782 01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:49.560 I'm like eleven twelve hours in and it looks like 1783 01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:51.880 half of Australia based on the Blue versus Red. 1784 01:22:51.880 --> 01:22:54.439 Wow, that's wild that you're that far across Australia because 1785 01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:57.119 I feel like that was like thirty to forty hours 1786 01:22:57.159 --> 01:22:57.520 in for me. 1787 01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:01.479 Huh, maybe I'm farther. I don't know. Maybe I don't know. 1788 01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:05.399 Are you just connecting stuff or you? Because I've done 1789 01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:07.159 this twice now between this and the trip I went 1790 01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:10.720 to com Gamer Productions. If you didn't know, I don't know. 1791 01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:12.359 I could turn my PlayStation on show you the map, 1792 01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:14.600 I guess, but it's I believe you. But that's you know, 1793 01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:17.560 a different path. No, I don't think that would work 1794 01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:19.600 because they tell you like the ones to connect are like, 1795 01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:22.600 you don't get that many places from my understanding where 1796 01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:25.520 you can branch off and go. You could branch off, 1797 01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:27.920 but it seems like the places that you're actually connecting 1798 01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:30.239 and revealing on the map, connecting to the chiral network, 1799 01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:31.239 that's pretty scripted. 1800 01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:33.640 That's what I thought. Yeah, so I thought you would be. 1801 01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:35.960 Maybe maybe I'm over exaggerating when I say half, but 1802 01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:39.039 it looks like I've done definitely the Western Okay, let's 1803 01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:39.359 say third. 1804 01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:44.159 Have you done monorail stuff? No, you're You've barely eaked 1805 01:23:44.199 --> 01:23:44.960 into Australia. 1806 01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:46.600 It sounds like ten hours. 1807 01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:49.760 Yeah, I feel like Mexico, I said, was like seven 1808 01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:52.159 to eight hours in you keep mind, this is like 1809 01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:53.720 a sixty hour game. 1810 01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:57.279 Mexico did not feel eight hours to me. I trust 1811 01:23:57.279 --> 01:24:00.359 your opinion, I trust your your call. I'm just didn't 1812 01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:00.800 feel like that. 1813 01:24:00.960 --> 01:24:03.159 I just don't think you are as far in Australia 1814 01:24:03.159 --> 01:24:03.800 as you think you are. 1815 01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:06.880 Okay, well, that's good to know. I'm gonna put this 1816 01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:09.479 out there and please feel free or spawn however you want. 1817 01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:14.439 So far, I think this game is fine. Okay, I 1818 01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:20.800 think it's Mary's big words. 1819 01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:23.039 Better back that up. 1820 01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:26.720 Here's the thing. I'm have to be clear. I'm having 1821 01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:28.159 a lot of fun playing it, and I think that's 1822 01:24:28.159 --> 01:24:31.039 the most important thing. And there are plenty of times 1823 01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:33.439 where I get a new tool or a new ability 1824 01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:35.880 or something I didn't even realize was possible in how 1825 01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:38.319 these systems overlap and the mechanics interconnect, and I'm like, 1826 01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:44.640 what the fuck that's awesome. The thing for me is 1827 01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:48.039 And obviously I couldn't stand the first game when I 1828 01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:50.119 played in twenty nineteen that if oh I grew as 1829 01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:51.760 a person? I wrote a review about it, and then 1830 01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:53.840 twenty twenty one rolled around, Yeah, Mary, when are you 1831 01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:55.399 going to join the club? Yeah? 1832 01:24:55.479 --> 01:24:57.479 I never grow, that's my secret. 1833 01:24:57.880 --> 01:24:59.880 And I played in twenty twenty one. I'm like, ah, fuck, 1834 01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.199 I'm in I don't know why. I'm in a different headspace. 1835 01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:04.039 Maybe fucking COVID like lulled me. 1836 01:25:04.279 --> 01:25:07.319 You were you were thinking about the American Dream writ large. 1837 01:25:07.079 --> 01:25:08.760 Exactly, and I was thinking about me and how I 1838 01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:10.720 grew as a person and how like I didn't really 1839 01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:12.760 put much trust in like the you know, I didn't 1840 01:25:12.800 --> 01:25:15.640 put much. I forgot what the fuck I wrote. But 1841 01:25:17.359 --> 01:25:19.600 I it's so funny to me that the first game 1842 01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:23.039 is like, you're gonna be fourteen hours in before you 1843 01:25:23.079 --> 01:25:26.319 get any real weapon to fight bandits and then this 1844 01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:28.840 game and let me I'm gonna say some stuff, and 1845 01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:31.960 then I'm gonna say I get why this happened. It's like, hey, 1846 01:25:31.960 --> 01:25:34.119 here's an assault rifle right off the bat. Here are 1847 01:25:34.279 --> 01:25:36.439 there are twelve enemies in this base right over here. 1848 01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:40.239 Two is so much more of a video game right 1849 01:25:40.279 --> 01:25:43.439 away than the first game is. So I'm not I 1850 01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:47.039 I appreciate that. I like it's it's two is more 1851 01:25:47.199 --> 01:25:49.000 fun right away, yeah, which is great. 1852 01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:52.600 It's handing you like here's a trink grenade launcher, which 1853 01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:54.600 I just laughed when I saw that. I was like, okay, 1854 01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:57.039 I'm shooting a grenade launcher and a dude's body is 1855 01:25:57.079 --> 01:25:59.000 flying three feet and it's like he's sleepy. 1856 01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:06.520 Okay, it's not lethal. It's fine. I the first game 1857 01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:08.159 was one of those things where I'm like, Okay, I 1858 01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:10.760 don't think I really liked the last four hours I played. 1859 01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:12.439 Then I zoom out and I'm like, yeah, I actually 1860 01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:14.960 kind of did. It was this really bold game that, like, 1861 01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:17.000 you know, you look at the game as a formula 1862 01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:21.840 or as a framework, it's like, oh, it's just glorified 1863 01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:26.199 fetch quests that they ring a lot of a lot 1864 01:26:26.319 --> 01:26:30.279 of emergent gameplay out of and when you can't fight 1865 01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:32.000 people the whole time, and you have to be kind 1866 01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:33.760 of stealthy, or you have to be crafty, or you 1867 01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:37.560 have to think like someone who's not combat trained would. 1868 01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:40.680 I think that was the game and its best not 1869 01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:42.560 to say. Like, especially in the director's cut, you get 1870 01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:47.319 stuff to like canon cargo, which is great this game, 1871 01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:52.039 though I look at the formula of what I'm doing 1872 01:26:52.039 --> 01:26:56.720 in a big picture, it's not that dissimilar from a 1873 01:26:56.760 --> 01:27:02.680 fucking Ubisoft open world. You are you are, you are 1874 01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:05.960 traveling across this map. Clearing enemy bases is a big 1875 01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:10.279 thing in this game. It's you don't have to, but 1876 01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:14.960 it's you have to go. The last four big objectives 1877 01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:19.640 I've had were to either sneak through an enemy base 1878 01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:25.920 and destroy this like Chiral disruptor, or clear the enemy base, 1879 01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:27.560 collect cargo, and deliver that. 1880 01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:30.760 It's not far right, though, I feel like you're making 1881 01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:32.319 them sound like a far cry or something. 1882 01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:36.159 I'm revealing the map by connecting it to the Kyrol network, 1883 01:27:36.319 --> 01:27:39.319 much like you would climb a tower in those games 1884 01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:41.399 and reveal part of the map that then allow. 1885 01:27:41.319 --> 01:27:42.640 They're in bunkers, they're underground. 1886 01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:45.600 That's the opposite of a tower. Again, Dan, I'm having 1887 01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:47.199 a lot of fun playing this game. I'm not trying 1888 01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:47.920 to be a dick. 1889 01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:49.600 And they look like, here's the thing I'm not going 1890 01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:50.800 to I will take no offense. 1891 01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:52.039 I won't take like we're. 1892 01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:53.680 In our goady discussions right now. 1893 01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:56.720 Oh yeah, no, do you see what I'm saying? Sort 1894 01:27:56.720 --> 01:27:59.960 of though, Like as as a formula, you're crossing the 1895 01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:02.960 map and there's some enemy bases that take out or 1896 01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:04.600 sneak around. And to be clear, I'm playing this game 1897 01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:06.079 as a stealth game. I think this game is at 1898 01:28:06.119 --> 01:28:09.000 its best for me as a stealth game. I appreciate 1899 01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:14.560 good stealth games. But the stealth, the combat, the a 1900 01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:18.840 lot of the way these systems are interacting. It's kind 1901 01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:22.399 of an okay, open world game. I think in the minutia, 1902 01:28:22.479 --> 01:28:24.960 this game is incredible. I think I think this is 1903 01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:27.920 an amazing When you look at the gadgets, they give 1904 01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:31.800 you the creative tools you have, Like I was clearing 1905 01:28:31.800 --> 01:28:33.720 an enemy base, and again to your point, I didn't 1906 01:28:33.720 --> 01:28:34.640 have to, but I was like, all R, I'm going 1907 01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:37.399 to clear this out because I have not seen the 1908 01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:41.600 ramifications of this. But they tell me if I leave 1909 01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:44.760 some enemies alive, it'll still be just as dangerous next 1910 01:28:44.760 --> 01:28:46.680 time I backtrack past it or go to it. So 1911 01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:48.119 I'm like, Okay, I'd like it to be safe in 1912 01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:50.920 the future, so I'm going to or relatively yeah or 1913 01:28:51.039 --> 01:28:55.000 no it's not so so's it's very fun to me. 1914 01:28:55.039 --> 01:28:57.800 And I also say, I really do appreciate the vision 1915 01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:01.680 cones of enemies. I think this game is pretty realistic 1916 01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:04.439 in that, like, I really worry even if I'm like 1917 01:29:04.520 --> 01:29:07.359 crouched on a ledge one hundred and fifty yards from someone, 1918 01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:09.279 if they're in a watchtower, I'm like, they can see 1919 01:29:09.279 --> 01:29:11.399 you in this game, which I love. That's refreshing because 1920 01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:12.960 a lot of games it's like, why does he not 1921 01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:18.000 see me? Anyway, I'm tranking a dude and it's loud, 1922 01:29:18.079 --> 01:29:21.000 and I'm actually the game is very clear. It's like 1923 01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:23.359 you should have a relocation area planned because this is 1924 01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:27.119 all It's a trank sniper rifle, but it's loud. I 1925 01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:31.520 also conveniently attached this speed exoskeleton to me, so I 1926 01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:33.920 trank someone and then I'm fucking sprinting like way too 1927 01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:36.439 fast front of human It's awesome, Like and then I'm 1928 01:29:36.439 --> 01:29:38.520 getting to another ridge and then he's getting too close 1929 01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:40.199 to me, so I bowlug on his head and he 1930 01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:41.960 gets knocked out, and his friend comes to like kick 1931 01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:45.039 him awake, and I javel in him with an electric spear, 1932 01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:49.000 and like, the game is constantly giving you new tools 1933 01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:52.479 with which to do this stuff. The thing is that I, 1934 01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:54.800 and I've said this before, the first game was at 1935 01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:57.119 its best when you're finding the story through the systems, 1936 01:29:57.159 --> 01:29:58.920 in the emmergent story, at the gameplay and whatnot. It 1937 01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:01.920 was amazing in that regard. I didn't care for the script. 1938 01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:04.640 I think there's some funny, like bizarre shit going on 1939 01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:08.159 that was like patent Lee Kojima, which is great. In 1940 01:30:08.279 --> 01:30:11.840 this game, though, you're like you're going and you're connecting 1941 01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:16.800 this new area and it's a fucking hermit musician who 1942 01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:18.760 goes out there. He went into commune with nature and 1943 01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:20.399 see how it impacted his music, and then he got 1944 01:30:20.439 --> 01:30:23.560 stranded during the death stranding and he's like, oh, thank 1945 01:30:23.560 --> 01:30:25.199 you so much, Like it's so nice to be part 1946 01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:26.800 of Chirole network. Now I get shared with my music 1947 01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:29.439 with anybody. Anyway. My friend's really into guns, So here's 1948 01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:33.880 a shotgun schematic like what why did this musician? He 1949 01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:36.680 should have given me something like a fucking guitar sniper 1950 01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:40.279 rifle if anything. Well, and I and I'm and I'm 1951 01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:42.760 it's funny, like I'm having fun with this game despite itself. 1952 01:30:42.760 --> 01:30:48.119 But I have to say it does feel like a 1953 01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:51.159 sophomore slump. I do hope. I do hope there's a 1954 01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:53.640 Death Stranding three. I'm assuming there will be, because I. 1955 01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:56.680 I don't know there will. I hope he's got od 1956 01:30:57.039 --> 01:31:01.199 infision in the chamber. Yeah, GQ interviews talking about like 1957 01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:03.000 these games are like three or four years and I'm old. 1958 01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:06.119 Yeah, And that's the thing, Like I look at Destreating 1959 01:31:06.119 --> 01:31:08.279 two compared to the first one, and make no mistake, 1960 01:31:08.359 --> 01:31:11.479 I think as like this game gets so much more fun, 1961 01:31:11.880 --> 01:31:14.039 so much sooner than the first game. Yeah, but the 1962 01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:16.920 first game is such a weird, unyieldy beast with such 1963 01:31:16.960 --> 01:31:19.880 weird friction against the player, and like, I hate it, 1964 01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:22.520 but I also love it. And then you're not wrong. 1965 01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:25.000 And that is what pushed me away from the first 1966 01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:27.720 one to begin with, is it is like going against 1967 01:31:27.720 --> 01:31:29.560 the player and like I hated falling down Like in 1968 01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:32.279 the first one, I was doing so much more falling 1969 01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:34.680 down and I fucking went across the river. 1970 01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:35.199 I shouldn't. 1971 01:31:35.319 --> 01:31:36.960 Now I'm watching all of my shit go down the 1972 01:31:37.039 --> 01:31:40.640 river and it's infuriating but also interesting. This one is 1973 01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:42.560 way more of just a video game, for sure, and 1974 01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:44.920 I think that's why there wasn't that friction with me 1975 01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:45.279 this time. 1976 01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:48.520 Yeah, no, I don't. I like, It's like, I love 1977 01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:50.920 that you can get a coffin to surf on tar 1978 01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:54.720 with and stuff, and it's like, but then you accidentally 1979 01:31:54.800 --> 01:31:57.560 kill someone and you're like, well, fuck going by the 1980 01:31:57.560 --> 01:31:59.279 first game is logic, and by the logic of this world, 1981 01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:01.840 I now have to wit find an incinerator to avoid 1982 01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:03.319 avoid out, so I assumed I would have to bring 1983 01:32:03.359 --> 01:32:05.960 them back to like the Magellan at the least. It's like, no, 1984 01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:07.720 the coffin can actually just go down to the ground, 1985 01:32:08.079 --> 01:32:11.960 great quality of life thing. But I kind of would 1986 01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:15.319 have preferred the long journey to avoid this thing. And 1987 01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:17.279 again that's just my taste in games. Like I love 1988 01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:19.720 fucking State of the K two. I love that shit 1989 01:32:19.800 --> 01:32:23.000 that like is Dragon's Dogma two. I love the stuff 1990 01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:25.439 that's a pain, but it was a good story, So 1991 01:32:26.399 --> 01:32:28.479 it's just I don't know. I play this game, and 1992 01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:31.720 it almost feels like, and I'm this is very unfair. 1993 01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:33.560 I don't fucking know the guy. I think I've met 1994 01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:36.239 him once and we talked about Metal Grosel three. It 1995 01:32:36.319 --> 01:32:39.960 just feels like Kojima and Kojuma Productions they cared about 1996 01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:42.199 this game a little bit less than the first one. 1997 01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:46.560 And again that right, right, that's my point. It's like 1998 01:32:46.600 --> 01:32:48.640 the first one, it's like they had this like it's 1999 01:32:48.680 --> 01:32:51.399 like it's almost like a debut work in a way. 2000 01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:53.119 The first one it's like this thing, like you could 2001 01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:56.800 tell that was percolating their brains forever and they finally 2002 01:32:56.800 --> 01:32:58.359 got it out. They're like, we don't care. And then 2003 01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:00.319 you see those stories before two came out, it's like 2004 01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:03.600 Kochimo's disappointed that it wasn't that divisive. I'm like, oh 2005 01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:06.159 my god, fucking grow up, dude. Oh people like your game. 2006 01:33:06.439 --> 01:33:08.119 Then it came out, I'm like, I kind of actually 2007 01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:10.840 might have seen what he's saying. It's like, it really 2008 01:33:10.920 --> 01:33:15.319 is kind of triple a ass video game design. Sure, 2009 01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:18.359 there is a fucking skateboarding coffin that can dip into 2010 01:33:18.439 --> 01:33:23.000 ink to to dispose of potentially time bomb explosive bodies. 2011 01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:24.680 You say, a lot of this stuff out loud. You're like, 2012 01:33:24.680 --> 01:33:27.000 this is a really unique game, but you look at 2013 01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:31.159 it like a storyboard on a storyboard. It's actually it's 2014 01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:34.319 actually a pretty generic Triple A game so far. I'm 2015 01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:37.319 only twelve I'm only twelve hours in. I want to 2016 01:33:37.319 --> 01:33:38.239 go and I want to play more. 2017 01:33:38.279 --> 01:33:39.920 To be clear, so you're saying, like, let's say, okay, 2018 01:33:40.479 --> 01:33:43.279 all the like it's a wire framed out so you know, 2019 01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:45.279 none of the visual stuff or whatever. It's if you're 2020 01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:47.560 talking about what you are doing moment to moment in 2021 01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:50.359 this game. Take out the cut scenes. Like I see 2022 01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:50.880 what you're saying. 2023 01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:51.199 I do. 2024 01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:52.560 I don't mean it's an it's alt like I think 2025 01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:55.560 there's a like I just it feels like I don't 2026 01:33:55.560 --> 01:33:57.359 know if Sony said, like, hey, make it a bit 2027 01:33:57.359 --> 01:33:59.640 more palatable so we can get another ten million players, 2028 01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:03.039 or like they're like, hey, I liked that first game, 2029 01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:04.640 let's build on it in a way that brings more 2030 01:34:04.680 --> 01:34:06.399 people in. I don't know, Like the first game just 2031 01:34:06.439 --> 01:34:09.520 almost felt like a I don't I don't care what 2032 01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:11.640 you think, and like that's it's funny because lately I 2033 01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:13.720 don't want those kind of games that do have that friction. 2034 01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:15.840 I want the fun game. That's why I'm enjoying Death 2035 01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:18.960 Stranding too. But it does it's so different than the 2036 01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:19.520 first game. 2037 01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:22.640 I'm not necessarily going to disagree with anything you said 2038 01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:26.119 and in fact talking about like the uh you brought up, 2039 01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:28.960 like you know, immersive gameplay and comparing to other open 2040 01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:32.920 world games, it's not like I don't think it's that 2041 01:34:33.159 --> 01:34:36.079 amazing in terms of like immersive or emergent sorry, emergent 2042 01:34:36.079 --> 01:34:38.680 gameplay where it's like, you know, I when I think 2043 01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:40.199 of that, I think of breadth the wild, you know, 2044 01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:41.800 I think a Tiers of the Kingdom where it's like 2045 01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:42.760 I wonder if I could do this. 2046 01:34:42.760 --> 01:34:43.359 And this and that. 2047 01:34:43.399 --> 01:34:45.239 Fuck, oh wow, that works so crazy. Like there's so 2048 01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:48.119 many like telling your own stories through your actions in 2049 01:34:48.199 --> 01:34:51.079 the open world. There isn't that much of it in 2050 01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:53.000 Death Straining too, Like there are a lot of like 2051 01:34:53.119 --> 01:34:55.520 very funny like oh, I'm wearing this VTuber hat and 2052 01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:58.279 now Sam only says peco and you know, there's there's 2053 01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:00.840 a lot of quirks, but as far as the moment 2054 01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:02.720 to moment what you're doing, you're right, Like when you 2055 01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:04.760 are going to a base, like I'm typically building a 2056 01:35:04.760 --> 01:35:07.159 watch tower, I'm tagging guys. Yeah, almost like a far 2057 01:35:07.239 --> 01:35:09.279 cry and I'm sneaking in my self fails and I 2058 01:35:09.319 --> 01:35:12.399 shoot everyone. Like yeah, I could actually, I could totally 2059 01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:16.439 see that it doesn't have like there are interesting physics 2060 01:35:16.479 --> 01:35:20.359 and interactions, but it's nowhere near on the level of like, 2061 01:35:20.359 --> 01:35:21.760 you know, a breath the wild. I don't think it's 2062 01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:25.640 trying to do that. I think what makes the Stranding 2063 01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:28.840 stand apart is is, for lack of a better term, 2064 01:35:28.920 --> 01:35:31.479 like just that Kajema factor where it's like that guy 2065 01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:35.800 has an eye for just style. Where it's like every 2066 01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:38.760 fucking time I'm approaching a new you know, terminal or 2067 01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:41.039 whatever you want to call it, or station and it 2068 01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:44.000 you know, pans out and it's playing whatever's on kajamas 2069 01:35:44.039 --> 01:35:47.920 Spotify playlist, and it's just like there's really nothing like. 2070 01:35:47.880 --> 01:35:48.520 That, you know. 2071 01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:50.960 Like it makes me feel a way that like I 2072 01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:53.159 have not played games that are like this where I 2073 01:35:53.199 --> 01:35:55.600 feel like it is just so that game is dripping 2074 01:35:55.680 --> 01:36:00.279 with one person's creative vision, you know. But you are right, 2075 01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:04.399 it is more palatable in the sense that like, yeah, 2076 01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:06.239 you're just getting a bunch of cool guns and stuff, 2077 01:36:06.279 --> 01:36:08.920 and like even the like delivering stuff, which was the 2078 01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:11.079 kind of hurdle people had to get over in the 2079 01:36:11.079 --> 01:36:14.000 first one. It's not bad in this one. You're most 2080 01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:16.159 of my times like on highways. It's you know, like 2081 01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:18.520 I'll build my zip line network. It's totally fine. They 2082 01:36:18.520 --> 01:36:21.159 even like introduce stuff like the monorail system and stuff 2083 01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:24.239 to make it easier to move like large amounts of stuff, 2084 01:36:24.239 --> 01:36:26.600 and I never really engaged with that. But the actual 2085 01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:30.840 delivery aspect of the game, while still there, is not 2086 01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:35.439 nearly as like in your face butting up against you 2087 01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:39.079 as as it intentionally was in the first game. And 2088 01:36:39.199 --> 01:36:40.920 so you're right, it is. It is a game that 2089 01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:42.840 like you can load up and like people ask me if, 2090 01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:44.079 like do I have to play the first game, and 2091 01:36:44.199 --> 01:36:47.319 like not, really, it does feel like the first one 2092 01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:49.319 to your point, Mike, is like that's the one where 2093 01:36:49.319 --> 01:36:51.880 they had a bunch of crazy ass ideas and their 2094 01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:55.640 whole like idea of the world and establishing what Kyrillium 2095 01:36:55.720 --> 01:36:57.840 is and the beach and just you know, what these 2096 01:36:57.880 --> 01:37:00.640 extinction events are like that was very heavy on explaining 2097 01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:02.600 like what the fuck is this, what's the crypto bio, 2098 01:37:02.720 --> 01:37:05.319 what's this thing? And now all that stuff's established, and 2099 01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:07.319 now it's like, all right, you're in that weird world. 2100 01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:10.279 Here's some guns, go have fun. Here's a coffin board. 2101 01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:13.319 And I think, I like, I think this was the 2102 01:37:13.439 --> 01:37:15.079 right mix of that. 2103 01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:17.479 It's more balanced, like I don't want to say objectively, 2104 01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:20.640 but it's it's to me, it's it's almost objectively more balanced. 2105 01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:23.840 But I love the moments where you're you're creeping through 2106 01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:28.279 areas infested by BT's like watchers. That was terrifying. I 2107 01:37:28.319 --> 01:37:31.960 love that because that's unique. I will say, like doll 2108 01:37:32.039 --> 01:37:34.800 Man's amazing. But the mechanic they introduce where you could 2109 01:37:34.800 --> 01:37:36.920 throw him in the air and scout, that's that's Assassin's 2110 01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:39.800 creed throw it. That's the eagle in the air scouting. 2111 01:37:39.840 --> 01:37:41.359 Yeah, he's a lot cooler than the eagle. 2112 01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:43.000 I know he is, for sure. 2113 01:37:43.039 --> 01:37:45.319 Eagle will fucking give you like little therapy sessions in 2114 01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:46.079 the private bunk. 2115 01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:48.960 And I love the blinking on this the entire screen 2116 01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:50.119 of your TV. It's good. 2117 01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:52.199 And then every time you pull them back, he's so desperate. 2118 01:37:52.399 --> 01:37:54.720 Did I do a good job, Sam? Oh you did great, buddy, 2119 01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:55.239 you did great. 2120 01:37:55.359 --> 01:37:57.920 Zooming back to he's like stick a fork in me. Sam, 2121 01:37:58.279 --> 01:38:00.479 I don't even know what the fuck that means. I 2122 01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:02.960 just love that he says that. Okay, but but yeah, 2123 01:38:03.039 --> 01:38:06.359 I I but that kind of speaks to my point. 2124 01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:09.960 It's almost like a it feels like, you know what, 2125 01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.560 I'm reminded of often when I'm playing this game, and this 2126 01:38:12.720 --> 01:38:14.199 was kind of the case of the first game, but 2127 01:38:14.279 --> 01:38:17.520 especially this one. It's the Gremlins to Key and Peel 2128 01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:20.640 Sketch where they're in. It's like, what if you have 2129 01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:22.560 a doll you throw in the air and he's basically 2130 01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:24.680 the Eagle from Assassin's Creed but he blinks and says 2131 01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:27.720 really like witty ship. But then he like scans out 2132 01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:29.640 of me for you. Yes, yes, I love it. Yes, 2133 01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:31.920 It's like what if you skateboard on a coffin like 2134 01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.479 a hoverboard, and then you can we bring the Fourth 2135 01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:40.119 Wall and hould Cocain's there? What Crimlins? I thought he was. 2136 01:38:43.319 --> 01:38:48.960 That's actually a funny mini game, Grimlins to Death Stranding. 2137 01:38:49.199 --> 01:38:52.680 Oh remind me. During the email section I did, just 2138 01:38:53.199 --> 01:38:55.239 a lot of people wrote in about the game. I 2139 01:38:55.279 --> 01:39:01.000 was trying to remember, uh, indivisible. It was indivisible, yeah, yeah, 2140 01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:02.279 And I looked it up when I saw that, and 2141 01:39:02.279 --> 01:39:04.239 I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, but that would be 2142 01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:07.560 a fun quiz if someone can do a quiz that's 2143 01:39:07.640 --> 01:39:09.520 death straining too or Gremlins two. 2144 01:39:09.800 --> 01:39:12.680 I mean every Grimlins one is just like, uh, there's 2145 01:39:12.680 --> 01:39:16.479 an electro Gremlin Like, it's just like, yeah, it's all 2146 01:39:16.520 --> 01:39:21.079 just weird Grimlin gimmicks. I know, yeah, it's it's that's 2147 01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:23.359 pretty easy. It'd be very easy for me. These are 2148 01:39:23.439 --> 01:39:25.039 only the two things I know the most about our 2149 01:39:25.079 --> 01:39:26.119 Kajima and Grimlin. 2150 01:39:26.199 --> 01:39:28.840 Someone needs to do, Mary, and I don't even need 2151 01:39:28.880 --> 01:39:31.600 to be involved with a quiz. Someone create a quiz 2152 01:39:31.640 --> 01:39:33.880 that's deastrating to our Gremlins, Sue, and we'll give Dan 2153 01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:36.800 the quiz and see what he scores. Ten questions, ten 2154 01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:37.399 one question. 2155 01:39:37.800 --> 01:39:43.039 I'm curious, Mary, Like I remember that the whole deastranding 2156 01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:45.159 director's cut your game of your debate thing. 2157 01:39:45.720 --> 01:39:46.199 Uh. 2158 01:39:46.640 --> 01:39:49.479 What I am curious now is like, is there is 2159 01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:55.000 there any curiosity about two? And you know, if if not, 2160 01:39:55.239 --> 01:39:58.600 you know, what is it that that butts up against you? 2161 01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:01.119 Uh so much. I don't really know where you're at 2162 01:40:01.159 --> 01:40:01.880 with wanting to play. 2163 01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:02.039 It or not. 2164 01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:04.800 I think I think there's interest. 2165 01:40:04.840 --> 01:40:06.760 I mean, I think especially if it's going to be, 2166 01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:09.439 you know, something we discuss it at Gody. I need 2167 01:40:09.479 --> 01:40:13.600 to write just like you would play uh a JRPG, 2168 01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:15.800 because like we need to be on the same page 2169 01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:19.000 about these things. I think something that makes me feel 2170 01:40:19.039 --> 01:40:23.119 a little apprehensive about it. It might I'm trying to 2171 01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:25.439 like avoid it just being like a counterculture thing, but 2172 01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:28.359 I just think so many people are like it's so crazy, 2173 01:40:28.520 --> 01:40:31.000 and it's just like the things that you're saying, they 2174 01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:33.279 do sound crazy, but I don't really know if they're 2175 01:40:33.359 --> 01:40:36.399 meaningful outside of like making you laugh. 2176 01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:38.359 And yeah, yeah, that's what I've been trying to say. 2177 01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:41.039 In a lot of ways, it does. Yes, it feels 2178 01:40:41.079 --> 01:40:42.720 like it's just, oh, one of those funny things you 2179 01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:44.239 talk about what you just did and you're like, oh, 2180 01:40:44.279 --> 01:40:46.560 it's funny, But like did it serve a purpose? 2181 01:40:46.960 --> 01:40:49.119 Like why why do you go through all of this? 2182 01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:51.000 Like Dan, when you were describing it the very first 2183 01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:53.359 time you played it, you were like, it's so awesome 2184 01:40:53.399 --> 01:40:56.000 on your birthday. There's this whole cot scene with like 2185 01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:59.680 characters and they're singing and happy birthday, and I was like, cool, 2186 01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:00.960 but it's a game good, you know. 2187 01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:01.319 What I mean? 2188 01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:03.039 And so I was like I kind of feel like 2189 01:41:03.079 --> 01:41:06.319 you're getting lost and all these you know, fun things 2190 01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:06.760 that are. 2191 01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:08.720 So funny, and like I couldn't I couldn't believe how 2192 01:41:08.720 --> 01:41:10.359 funny that was. But I was like, okay, but where 2193 01:41:10.399 --> 01:41:10.880 is the game? 2194 01:41:11.039 --> 01:41:12.800 Like the game is so convoluted, and you guys have 2195 01:41:12.920 --> 01:41:15.920 like even my trying to describe the good components. 2196 01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:19.640 It is really messy because there's so much. 2197 01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:22.000 Rapper of Like that's a really funny cut scene that 2198 01:41:22.039 --> 01:41:23.960 probably cost them a lot of money and they wasted 2199 01:41:24.039 --> 01:41:25.399 like a little much time went into that. 2200 01:41:25.439 --> 01:41:28.920 But it's like, okay, but again, what is the fucking game? 2201 01:41:29.079 --> 01:41:31.680 Like I think where's the direction? That's I don't know. 2202 01:41:32.079 --> 01:41:34.039 I get that because, like you know, it's interesting because, 2203 01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:35.840 like I one of the reasons I hate like family 2204 01:41:35.880 --> 01:41:39.079 guy is because I hate like random for random's sake, 2205 01:41:39.319 --> 01:41:42.560 I'm going somewhere like I hate like also random humor. 2206 01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:46.119 It's like just being random isn't funny, you know? And 2207 01:41:46.399 --> 01:41:49.439 there was I saw a mutual friend recently and I 2208 01:41:49.479 --> 01:41:51.840 was talking about this game. This is a private conversation. 2209 01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:53.439 That's why I'm not naming them. 2210 01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:56.079 But one of barb Schols like what you don't okay, 2211 01:41:56.119 --> 01:41:56.760 I see what you're saying. 2212 01:41:56.840 --> 01:41:58.640 Yeah, yeah, I just say it was a private conversation, 2213 01:41:58.680 --> 01:42:01.279 but like I showed him a clip of like, let 2214 01:42:01.279 --> 01:42:02.840 me show you a ten second clip from the end 2215 01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:06.239 of this game, and it does some like really out 2216 01:42:06.239 --> 01:42:09.239 there stuff that I could not have possibly predicted, and 2217 01:42:09.279 --> 01:42:11.720 his reaction surprised me. And then he was like, yeah, 2218 01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:13.760 but doesn't this kind of feel like Kajima just kind 2219 01:42:13.760 --> 01:42:16.800 of like getting off. I'm just being like, whoa so random. 2220 01:42:16.479 --> 01:42:17.760 So wacky Kajima. 2221 01:42:18.119 --> 01:42:19.640 And then I thought about it and I was like 2222 01:42:20.399 --> 01:42:22.239 about the scene in particular I was talking about, which 2223 01:42:22.399 --> 01:42:25.399 for those I alluded to this on the Giant bomb thing, 2224 01:42:26.399 --> 01:42:30.159 it was a James Brown reminiscent thing, and it really 2225 01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:32.760 popped me where I was like, Wow, this is getting weird. 2226 01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:35.840 And he was like, isn't that just Kajima just like 2227 01:42:35.840 --> 01:42:38.079 getting off. I'm just being weird for weird sake or whatever. 2228 01:42:38.119 --> 01:42:41.600 And it's like like like he's into this whole idea 2229 01:42:41.640 --> 01:42:44.760 of Kajima being so wacky and random and stuff like fuck, wait, 2230 01:42:45.279 --> 01:42:49.079 I do hate that stuff like random for random, weird 2231 01:42:49.119 --> 01:42:50.920 for weird, you know that type of stuff, And it's like, 2232 01:42:51.479 --> 01:42:54.920 what is it about Kajima, where I am like tickled me. 2233 01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:55.640 Maybe it's because you. 2234 01:42:55.640 --> 01:42:57.560 Went to his cool, little stupid house and you got 2235 01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:01.520 to meet him and like, you know and stuff a bunch. 2236 01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:03.840 I've hung out with them like four. 2237 01:43:03.720 --> 01:43:06.039 Times, but he never gave a ship who you were. 2238 01:43:06.159 --> 01:43:09.680 And now all of a little handshake. 2239 01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:12.960 Tan's got that Kii virus. He's just I was sitting 2240 01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:14.960 next to him during that event a Kajima Productions. 2241 01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:18.680 Dan, you bring it up all the time. 2242 01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:20.920 I gotta ask you about that off Mike. I'm so 2243 01:43:21.039 --> 01:43:23.439 curious what Jeff Keeley is like when the UI and 2244 01:43:23.479 --> 01:43:24.439 his game isn't working. 2245 01:43:24.720 --> 01:43:27.640 Hey, dude loves metal gear, Dude loves Kajima. We can 2246 01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:28.399 talk for sure. 2247 01:43:28.560 --> 01:43:32.960 What's it like sniffing Kiey and Coajima's farts in the 2248 01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:33.680 same room? 2249 01:43:33.880 --> 01:43:36.720 Hey, Dale, I threw the doll and nothing's happening. 2250 01:43:39.359 --> 01:43:41.720 Look, he was encountering a glitch. He was right to 2251 01:43:41.840 --> 01:43:43.720 call someone over and be like, what's going on here? 2252 01:43:44.159 --> 01:43:46.680 Dale? What the fuck? Why am I listening to talking 2253 01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:48.760 heads right now? I'm trying to play a video game. 2254 01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:51.319 That's a pretty good impression. 2255 01:43:51.479 --> 01:43:52.079 I love you. 2256 01:43:52.159 --> 01:43:56.399 What do you think? He calls? Hey? Hid? Hey? 2257 01:43:56.479 --> 01:43:56.760 Hid? 2258 01:43:56.800 --> 01:43:59.800 What button. Do I press the throw a suitcaseat on 2259 01:43:59.840 --> 01:44:01.800 my who's trying to stab me with a spear? 2260 01:44:01.920 --> 01:44:05.119 Hid Yeah, Like at the end of the day, maybe 2261 01:44:05.159 --> 01:44:07.119 I'm just a mark like Foragma. 2262 01:44:07.279 --> 01:44:08.279 But but then again, it's like. 2263 01:44:08.399 --> 01:44:11.039 But I fucking hated Deak, Like if that were the case, 2264 01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:13.800 Like when I get the term mark wrestling term, it's 2265 01:44:13.800 --> 01:44:16.239 one that's just like, oh, my favorites can do no wrong. 2266 01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:17.960 I can just like blah blah blah. 2267 01:44:18.720 --> 01:44:22.800 I fucking hated Death Stranding when it came out, So 2268 01:44:23.000 --> 01:44:25.760 I think that shows that, like even if it's Kajima, 2269 01:44:25.920 --> 01:44:29.439 my fucking favorite game creator ever, he can make something 2270 01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:31.039 that I don't like and I will go out there 2271 01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:32.960 and be like, I fucking hate this and I did 2272 01:44:33.119 --> 01:44:35.640 legitimately come around on it, and I do legitimately love 2273 01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:38.760 this game, so like I do think I will give 2274 01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:41.079 him shit when I think it's warranted, but I also 2275 01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:45.720 genuinely do love this game, So I don't know, like 2276 01:44:45.760 --> 01:44:47.680 I don't feel like I'm like, you know, running interference 2277 01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:49.439 for Kajima or whatever if I didn't like it, like, 2278 01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:51.560 and that's why it's like any like Mike, all your 2279 01:44:51.560 --> 01:44:53.840 complaints that you're saying I think are totally valid, and 2280 01:44:53.880 --> 01:44:57.039 also a lot of the story is nonsense. 2281 01:44:57.199 --> 01:44:59.479 I would say, yeah, I mean the first game story 2282 01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:02.399 that was not as well. It's just yeah, that Death 2283 01:45:02.520 --> 01:45:04.720 Randing one. For whatever reason, I played Directors Cut and 2284 01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:07.760 I'm like, all right, I loved a lot. Like most 2285 01:45:07.800 --> 01:45:09.720 Metal Gear Solids, Metal Your Slid three is one of 2286 01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:13.800 my favorite games ever. I despite all the mechanical issues 2287 01:45:13.800 --> 01:45:17.000 I've always had with Coojima's games, I grew up a 2288 01:45:17.039 --> 01:45:20.960 Nintendo person. I never really even for PlayStation standards. His 2289 01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:24.840 control schemes just trying to be different for different sake, almost. 2290 01:45:24.880 --> 01:45:28.159 I don't know if it was a generational divide or 2291 01:45:28.279 --> 01:45:31.880 a regional divide or whatever. Death Stranding one. When I replayed, 2292 01:45:31.960 --> 01:45:34.399 I'm like, all right, I kind of finally get why 2293 01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:37.199 he's kind of lauded like this. Now I'm playing two, 2294 01:45:37.239 --> 01:45:41.279 and I'm like, it feels like he's almost like stooped 2295 01:45:41.359 --> 01:45:45.479 down to like triple A game design at this point. 2296 01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:48.199 And yeah, and like. 2297 01:45:49.319 --> 01:45:51.359 I still think it's more interesting than that. It is 2298 01:45:51.399 --> 01:45:53.520 more interesting than if they did a far Crist seven. 2299 01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:56.159 You know, it's like there's so much style to it 2300 01:45:56.279 --> 01:45:57.359 still that like, but. 2301 01:45:57.319 --> 01:46:01.000 That's not the bar is better than I'm gonna I'm 2302 01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:01.840 gonna piss you off right now. 2303 01:46:01.880 --> 01:46:04.279 I don't fully believe this, but I'm going to piss 2304 01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:06.039 you off. I was talking to a friend the other 2305 01:46:06.079 --> 01:46:08.000 day and he also has been playing it, and he's like, 2306 01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:10.800 he's like, so, yeah, it was made with the in 2307 01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:14.479 concert with the Horizon engine. So he's like, it makes 2308 01:46:14.479 --> 01:46:16.960 sense that it feels like a Horizon game. And he 2309 01:46:17.119 --> 01:46:18.920 said that, and I thought about it, and I'm like, 2310 01:46:21.199 --> 01:46:22.359 he's not that wrong. 2311 01:46:24.479 --> 01:46:26.279 I mean, but I have thought about that a lot 2312 01:46:26.319 --> 01:46:29.159 while playing it, because it is on that same Deciment engine, 2313 01:46:29.359 --> 01:46:30.680 and I yes, thank you. 2314 01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:31.399 Yeah. 2315 01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:36.359 What differentiates it is I just like Horizon to me 2316 01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:40.520 just feels like a game with every weird or controversial 2317 01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:43.399 edge sanded all the way off of it. So like 2318 01:46:43.399 --> 01:46:45.560 when you talk about that like open World Park right 2319 01:46:45.560 --> 01:46:47.760 type thing, I kind of I feel that way about Horizon. 2320 01:46:47.880 --> 01:46:49.560 Like on every level. 2321 01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:53.359 You're climbing over of sources to unlock the map. 2322 01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:55.920 Yeah yeah, but it's it's it's gorgeous and the action 2323 01:46:56.159 --> 01:46:58.159 is good and like like it is like there are 2324 01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:00.880 so many like top of their craft people working on Horizon, 2325 01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:04.159 but it just feels so sanded down creatively where I 2326 01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:08.840 think I really do respect people making swings, and I 2327 01:47:08.920 --> 01:47:12.359 do think this story and these characters and the like, 2328 01:47:12.399 --> 01:47:14.359 I think there are still swings here. I don't think 2329 01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:17.640 it's the safe thing. You might be painting it as you. 2330 01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:24.800 Know, Yeah, sure, main protagonist be a dude shot a baby. 2331 01:47:25.239 --> 01:47:28.319 Oh yeah, God, the fucking there's so many gripes. I 2332 01:47:28.319 --> 01:47:29.880 mean I had a lot of gripes with the script 2333 01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:31.800 from the first game. And I say script as opposed 2334 01:47:31.800 --> 01:47:33.800 to again, I like the storytelling when the bird stuff, 2335 01:47:33.800 --> 01:47:37.279 but like, yeah, that fucking two story, Like why does 2336 01:47:37.319 --> 01:47:39.399 Sam not care about this or that? Why did like 2337 01:47:39.399 --> 01:47:42.239 all of a sudden, there's no guilt in like Fragile 2338 01:47:42.239 --> 01:47:47.239 doesn't feel any guilt for this thing that happened. But like, yes, 2339 01:47:47.439 --> 01:47:51.039 I was thinking. I was like, you know what, Like, structurally, 2340 01:47:51.079 --> 01:47:53.199 it's not that different from a Horizon game. But I 2341 01:47:53.239 --> 01:47:55.079 was like, yeah, but you're doing a lot of cool stuff, 2342 01:47:55.119 --> 01:47:57.680 Like a lot of the minutia is very zany and 2343 01:47:57.680 --> 01:48:00.920 weird and bizarre. He's like, yeah, but it's like by 2344 01:48:00.920 --> 01:48:03.079 the end of Forbidden West, you're flying around on a 2345 01:48:03.159 --> 01:48:06.199 robotic pterodactyl. That's pretty like when you say it out loud, 2346 01:48:06.199 --> 01:48:09.079 it's cool, even if the entire game does. There's something 2347 01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:12.000 about like now I once he said that, I couldn't 2348 01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:14.159 stop thinking about it the last like five hours I played. 2349 01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:17.279 I'm like, there's something hollow at the center of both 2350 01:48:17.319 --> 01:48:21.239 of these games. And I still Horizon and Yes, and 2351 01:48:21.279 --> 01:48:23.760 I like, that's Treading two more than Horizon. To be clear, 2352 01:48:24.359 --> 01:48:27.520 there is something, yes, to your point, very generic about Horizon, 2353 01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:30.760 even if it is gorgeous. Death Training two one of 2354 01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:32.800 the best looking games I've ever played my life. The 2355 01:48:33.079 --> 01:48:35.840 opening shot when you're on those ridges and East Solitary 2356 01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:39.359 in Mexico. I don't look for photorealism in my games. 2357 01:48:39.520 --> 01:48:41.560 That I could not have told you that was not real, 2358 01:48:41.800 --> 01:48:43.720 Like when it comes down the ridges and all of 2359 01:48:43.720 --> 01:48:45.720 a sudden you're balancing on the ridge and like was 2360 01:48:45.720 --> 01:48:50.279 it wood Kid the music was playing or whatever. I 2361 01:48:50.319 --> 01:48:52.600 love that shit, that's what I love. I absolutely love 2362 01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:54.199 for that ship. And like even at this point in 2363 01:48:54.199 --> 01:48:56.279 the game now as I'm approaching a base, like and 2364 01:48:56.319 --> 01:48:59.079 I'm climbing up a hill, I want like Kate Bush 2365 01:48:59.119 --> 01:49:01.119 to be playing, but then it's the slow, somber song 2366 01:49:01.319 --> 01:49:03.159 like this is what I love. I this is not 2367 01:49:03.199 --> 01:49:07.920 something Horizon would ever do. But there is I can't 2368 01:49:07.960 --> 01:49:09.840 I can't quite yet put my finger on it. But 2369 01:49:09.880 --> 01:49:12.039 there is something hollow at the center of this game, 2370 01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:15.039 whereas like Death Streading one was the opposite, where I'm like, 2371 01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:18.800 I feel like there's something here that I can't quite 2372 01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:22.359 break through to. And for whatever reason, directors cut when 2373 01:49:22.359 --> 01:49:24.760 it came out. I just again, maybe I had more 2374 01:49:24.760 --> 01:49:27.920 patience because we weren't fucking doing anything and it was COVID. 2375 01:49:28.039 --> 01:49:29.520 I think I think that's what the deal was with 2376 01:49:29.560 --> 01:49:32.600 director's cut. It was only time. There was no thing 2377 01:49:32.640 --> 01:49:35.239 that the director's cut introduced and maded and that much 2378 01:49:35.239 --> 01:49:38.199 of a better game. It was just time and expectation 2379 01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:40.439 were different. I think that's why so many people came 2380 01:49:40.479 --> 01:49:40.920 around with that. 2381 01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:43.359 It's like it's two. It's like I'm knocking on this 2382 01:49:43.479 --> 01:49:45.199 game trying to get to the center of it. It feels 2383 01:49:45.239 --> 01:49:47.760 hollowers one, it's like it's repelling me. But I know 2384 01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:51.319 there's something there. I don't know. And again I'm one, 2385 01:49:52.119 --> 01:49:54.560 how long can this game be? Seventy eighty hours not 2386 01:49:54.680 --> 01:49:58.119 tay fifty to sixty Okay, I'm one fifth at best 2387 01:49:58.119 --> 01:49:59.920 of the way through this game. So like I want 2388 01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:02.279 I keep playing. I'm having fun, but it's more of 2389 01:50:02.319 --> 01:50:05.199 a fun that I remember having with like the Ubisoft 2390 01:50:05.199 --> 01:50:06.279 games the World. 2391 01:50:07.239 --> 01:50:09.840 Yeah, and again I'm not I don't think I'm disagreeing 2392 01:50:09.840 --> 01:50:12.159 with anything you're saying. I think it's just, you know, 2393 01:50:12.319 --> 01:50:15.000 your mileage may vary where it's like the Kajima factor 2394 01:50:15.520 --> 01:50:19.319 goes very far with me, and it feels there's a 2395 01:50:19.319 --> 01:50:21.520 lot of Kajima all over this game, especially like in 2396 01:50:21.520 --> 01:50:24.000 the last that's the last few hours. I granted, I 2397 01:50:24.119 --> 01:50:25.720 was loving the game all the way up, but then 2398 01:50:25.760 --> 01:50:29.720 the last few hours is just the most Kajima shit 2399 01:50:30.079 --> 01:50:32.359 I've ever seen in a video game, more than middle. 2400 01:50:32.159 --> 01:50:34.000 Of your seaking the President. On top of. 2401 01:50:34.239 --> 01:50:37.680 More than that, it is like, Wow, this guy is 2402 01:50:37.760 --> 01:50:41.159 just fully unshackled here, and I think I think that 2403 01:50:41.199 --> 01:50:42.880 will be off putting to some. I think it will 2404 01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:45.600 be seen as like just very indulgent, but I just 2405 01:50:45.720 --> 01:50:49.399 kind of really like his sensibilities and yeah, yeah. 2406 01:50:49.359 --> 01:50:52.119 No, it's I I I get while you're loving this game, like, 2407 01:50:52.119 --> 01:50:53.720 there's a lot of fun to be had, there's a 2408 01:50:53.720 --> 01:50:56.199 lot of there's a lot of batshit stuff that's going on. 2409 01:50:56.239 --> 01:50:57.760 There's a lot of cool stuff like being able to 2410 01:50:57.800 --> 01:51:00.159 remotely access watch towers is awesome if it's like as 2411 01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:02.600 around Kiral network and it makes you think like there's 2412 01:51:02.600 --> 01:51:05.600 certain bases where if you sprint in one direction too far, 2413 01:51:05.680 --> 01:51:08.039 you literally leave the chiral network and you're like, oh shit, 2414 01:51:08.199 --> 01:51:09.479 that's a tactical consideration. 2415 01:51:09.520 --> 01:51:11.680 I love you can't use the coffin board outside. 2416 01:51:12.479 --> 01:51:14.279 I love that's the kind of stuff where it's like, 2417 01:51:14.479 --> 01:51:16.640 that is the systemic stuff you don't see in a 2418 01:51:16.640 --> 01:51:19.760 horizon or a far cry. I love that. But anyway, Mary, 2419 01:51:19.840 --> 01:51:27.439 I I think we're done. Sorry, Mary, Mary, this game 2420 01:51:27.520 --> 01:51:29.239 is way more doing in the first game. If you're 2421 01:51:29.239 --> 01:51:31.239 interested in trying to do this out, it's way more 2422 01:51:31.279 --> 01:51:33.800 dewey than there's some talkie. But honestly, compared to the 2423 01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:35.760 first game, it's fucking nothing. It's a lot of dewey. 2424 01:51:36.119 --> 01:51:39.000 Yeah, but Mary, I uh, if it helped, I don't 2425 01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:42.239 think I will be doing like I love this game dearly, 2426 01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:45.680 I don't think I will be making any Uh what's 2427 01:51:45.680 --> 01:51:49.399 the word for flipper gusting? What's the Philip Burton? What's 2428 01:51:49.399 --> 01:51:52.800 the Philip Burtons? 2429 01:51:52.880 --> 01:51:56.760 Sounds like the oil company in like Afghanistan. 2430 01:51:57.880 --> 01:51:59.720 I won't be doing any butter fingering. 2431 01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:03.199 I think it will probably be in my top three 2432 01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:07.079 of the year, certainly, but uh, don't worry about me 2433 01:52:07.319 --> 01:52:08.920 pushing extremely hard for this beginning. 2434 01:52:09.640 --> 01:52:11.960 Do we all have to share number one? So far? 2435 01:52:12.279 --> 01:52:14.159 Without I mean, I'll tell you my three. I'll tell 2436 01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:16.399 you right now. You know we've done the mid year stuff. 2437 01:52:16.439 --> 01:52:19.600 You know it's too early for this. 2438 01:52:20.039 --> 01:52:25.680 It's in no particular order. Desk Strending two, Expedition thirty three, 2439 01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:30.520 and Blueprints I share. Okay, those are those are my 2440 01:52:30.520 --> 01:52:32.319 front runners right now. But we're a week away from 2441 01:52:32.319 --> 01:52:35.159 Bonanza and I'm gonna be going nuts on Bonanza. 2442 01:52:34.720 --> 01:52:36.439 And we got some stuff coming out in the fall. 2443 01:52:36.920 --> 01:52:41.359 Mm hmm, yeah, all right, Sorry, Mary, what have you 2444 01:52:41.399 --> 01:52:46.720 been playing lately? We got to pass the backs now 2445 01:52:46.840 --> 01:52:54.119 past so continue? No, we didn't. I can call my mom. 2446 01:52:54.199 --> 01:52:54.880 What do you want. 2447 01:52:56.600 --> 01:52:58.039 Trying to be an ally? 2448 01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:00.680 I can go wake my wife up into the room. 2449 01:53:03.520 --> 01:53:05.079 Stop bringing your wives it. 2450 01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:07.359 I have three female cats. 2451 01:53:07.199 --> 01:53:11.359 Your love for your Oh, I know, I'm gonna say. 2452 01:53:11.399 --> 01:53:13.680 Dan's a dude. 2453 01:53:12.399 --> 01:53:15.960 I've been playing ship Ink. 2454 01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:20.720 It's like an Amazon based game where you pack stuff 2455 01:53:20.760 --> 01:53:21.920 in a shipping plant. 2456 01:53:22.760 --> 01:53:23.800 Is it Amazon branded? 2457 01:53:24.439 --> 01:53:27.159 No, It's just like I assume that's probably what it's 2458 01:53:27.199 --> 01:53:30.800 like to work there, like you orders, and. 2459 01:53:31.359 --> 01:53:35.640 Yeah, that's what I do. I ship orders. 2460 01:53:36.720 --> 01:53:42.520 My god, let's talk about death stranding somewhere in ship 2461 01:53:42.520 --> 01:53:48.520 Ink you it's an ally. Stop trying to be an ally. 2462 01:53:48.680 --> 01:53:50.720 You're not allowed to be an ally by saying you're 2463 01:53:50.720 --> 01:53:56.680 an eye, interrupting me to tell me anxiety is an ally. 2464 01:53:56.760 --> 01:53:58.239 It's actually different, but. 2465 01:53:59.359 --> 01:54:01.279 Is my favorite Quentin Tarantino movie. 2466 01:54:01.880 --> 01:54:07.640 Oh my god, I like the substance in ship Ink You. 2467 01:54:11.760 --> 01:54:15.159 Jamie Lee Curtis is aging like a fine wine. Carl 2468 01:54:17.680 --> 01:54:28.079 Zenya on the top. Oh I I I sighed during 2469 01:54:28.319 --> 01:54:31.479 our James Bond marathon recently. Many times. 2470 01:54:32.720 --> 01:54:35.079 You disapproved of scenes in The Warriors. 2471 01:54:36.079 --> 01:54:39.600 Yeah, I knew enough to know this was wrong. 2472 01:54:41.800 --> 01:54:45.560 Hey buster, Hey whoa. We don't let that word fly 2473 01:54:45.800 --> 01:54:51.880 in modern New York. Buddy boy, Hey whoa? You lay out? 2474 01:54:51.960 --> 01:54:56.039 You get your goddamn hands off her. And I turned 2475 01:54:56.039 --> 01:54:57.880 around and looked at my wife, and I flexed, and 2476 01:54:57.920 --> 01:54:59.560 then we boom. 2477 01:55:00.680 --> 01:55:01.880 Mike, let Marry toss. 2478 01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:14.159 Sorry, I hate this podcast. Ship Ink is a simulation 2479 01:55:14.800 --> 01:55:15.880 packaging plant. 2480 01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:18.600 So you work at a pack plant. 2481 01:55:18.720 --> 01:55:22.159 And you print out orders and then you get all 2482 01:55:22.199 --> 01:55:28.079 the stuff like maybe sweaters or vases or mugs or whatever. 2483 01:55:28.399 --> 01:55:31.159 And sometimes the items are broken, you double click on 2484 01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:31.760 them to fix them. 2485 01:55:31.760 --> 01:55:33.239 They're just like silly little mini games. 2486 01:55:33.279 --> 01:55:35.439 It's kind of like one of those thoughtless sim games 2487 01:55:35.439 --> 01:55:37.199 where you can play it after like a long day 2488 01:55:37.199 --> 01:55:39.560 of work and you don't want to be stressed out 2489 01:55:39.640 --> 01:55:41.520 or think too much, or you can play it while 2490 01:55:41.520 --> 01:55:43.479 you're like watching TV on. 2491 01:55:43.319 --> 01:55:46.800 Your steam deck. 2492 01:55:46.199 --> 01:55:50.159 So steam deck friendly, although I will say it's much 2493 01:55:50.159 --> 01:55:53.600 easier on mouse and keyboard because it's because you're unpacking 2494 01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:55.640 and you have to like cut open the boxes. 2495 01:55:55.239 --> 01:55:57.279 And you say that I've been thinking about Unpacking, Like 2496 01:55:57.319 --> 01:55:59.760 is it anything at all like the game Unpacking? 2497 01:56:00.399 --> 01:56:04.640 Yes, but it's less story environmental storytelling, which I think 2498 01:56:04.720 --> 01:56:06.359 was what everybody loved about on the back. 2499 01:56:07.600 --> 01:56:09.079 This doesn't have any of that. 2500 01:56:09.760 --> 01:56:13.800 It's more of the fact that your simulation of doing 2501 01:56:13.840 --> 01:56:15.239 all the things you need to do to pack a 2502 01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:19.800 box appropriately, including if it's got fragile things in it, 2503 01:56:19.840 --> 01:56:21.159 you need to bubble wrap it, you need to put 2504 01:56:21.159 --> 01:56:23.840 a fragile stickler on it. You just need to make 2505 01:56:23.840 --> 01:56:27.079 sure that everything's accurate or you lose money. And then 2506 01:56:27.479 --> 01:56:29.359 at the end of the day. With the money that 2507 01:56:29.439 --> 01:56:33.279 you have, you can invest in lots of different things. 2508 01:56:33.279 --> 01:56:35.960 You obviously you need to buy your own shipping equipment, 2509 01:56:35.960 --> 01:56:37.960 which makes it a lot more annoying if you accidentally 2510 01:56:38.039 --> 01:56:40.319 use the wrong sticker or the wrong size box, because 2511 01:56:40.319 --> 01:56:42.520 you're paying for that. It's coming out of your paycheck 2512 01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:45.640 when you make a mistake. But if you do everything right, 2513 01:56:45.720 --> 01:56:48.520 you get like maybe like seven hundred dollars. You can 2514 01:56:48.520 --> 01:56:50.279 put it in the bank, which your crew's interest. You 2515 01:56:50.319 --> 01:56:54.840 can take it to a law firm, and then UA 2516 01:56:54.960 --> 01:56:57.239 you can invest in yourself. So in the law firm 2517 01:56:57.279 --> 01:56:59.319 you can do things like it'll be one thousand dollars, 2518 01:56:59.319 --> 01:57:02.079 but you get ten sent more for fast orders, and 2519 01:57:02.119 --> 01:57:03.920 so it's like okay, if I do that, I'll make 2520 01:57:03.960 --> 01:57:06.960 the money back within like three or four working days, 2521 01:57:06.960 --> 01:57:07.479 so that's. 2522 01:57:07.279 --> 01:57:08.199 Like a good investment. 2523 01:57:09.520 --> 01:57:12.560 You can buy like different colored shipping equipment, which isn't 2524 01:57:12.600 --> 01:57:14.520 like super exciting or anything like. This is a pretty 2525 01:57:14.680 --> 01:57:18.279 mundane sim game that's meant to help you like pastime 2526 01:57:18.319 --> 01:57:20.079 in a casual way, and I think it does a 2527 01:57:20.119 --> 01:57:22.520 totally fine job of that. I did buy this in 2528 01:57:22.560 --> 01:57:26.039 the Steam Summer sale, which I think is important context 2529 01:57:26.039 --> 01:57:29.159 to add because Steam Summer Sale, like all of us 2530 01:57:29.199 --> 01:57:30.960 were kind of like, yes, I would like to spend 2531 01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:32.439 a little bit of money. This game is like I 2532 01:57:32.439 --> 01:57:35.520 think it's five dollars and it was on sale, So 2533 01:57:35.560 --> 01:57:38.640 I spent two dollars on this game and it was 2534 01:57:38.680 --> 01:57:40.399 just like a delightful game for two bucks. 2535 01:57:40.479 --> 01:57:40.760 Honest. 2536 01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:43.279 The packing part of it, is there any kind of 2537 01:57:43.279 --> 01:57:47.239 that like tetris Ari four suitcase like satisfaction of just 2538 01:57:47.239 --> 01:57:49.039 like packing everything in as tight as possible. 2539 01:57:49.359 --> 01:57:51.800 Yes, you have to rotate everything properly and you can't 2540 01:57:51.880 --> 01:57:54.720 overlap too many things at once, so and you again 2541 01:57:54.760 --> 01:57:57.359 you have to like make the right decision. It'll print 2542 01:57:57.359 --> 01:57:58.920 out and it'll be like this person wants two pairs 2543 01:57:58.960 --> 01:58:02.840 of pants, a uh water bottle, and some keys, and 2544 01:58:02.880 --> 01:58:05.079 it's like can I fit that into a medium box 2545 01:58:05.199 --> 01:58:06.720 or do I have to pay for the large box? 2546 01:58:06.760 --> 01:58:09.039 And if you're wrong, now you now you've just wasted 2547 01:58:09.039 --> 01:58:09.479 a box. 2548 01:58:09.640 --> 01:58:13.279 So that that sounds satisfying because I've moved so many 2549 01:58:13.319 --> 01:58:15.239 times and like the amount of times I had a 2550 01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:17.079 box and like there has to be a fucking way 2551 01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:19.840 to get everything in here, Like it is tremendously satisfying 2552 01:58:19.840 --> 01:58:21.760 to figure out the configuration, They're like, oh, yeah, that 2553 01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:22.199 works out. 2554 01:58:23.079 --> 01:58:25.920 Dreads had that too in the cargo. 2555 01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:27.119 Oh yeah yeah. 2556 01:58:27.720 --> 01:58:32.039 Like this is such a stupid conversation compared to chanting. 2557 01:58:32.560 --> 01:58:35.359 Oh I'm the fucking yellow taxi go room guy. 2558 01:58:35.520 --> 01:58:38.720 After Mike talks about life and philosophy for forty minutes. 2559 01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:42.720 Ship Ink is just about how we all compartmentalize and 2560 01:58:42.880 --> 01:58:46.560 pack certain emotions and feelings and traumas into their own 2561 01:58:46.560 --> 01:58:47.399 little compartments. 2562 01:58:47.399 --> 01:58:49.720 I mean, isn't stranding just a ship ink game? 2563 01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:50.039 Really? 2564 01:58:50.239 --> 01:58:53.279 It comes down in many ways. We both played ship Ink. 2565 01:58:53.359 --> 01:58:56.479 Oh yeah, ship Ink is like the prequel, and then 2566 01:58:56.720 --> 01:59:00.600 you pass the crates to Sam, yeah, and he brings 2567 01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:02.439 them to the next facility. 2568 01:59:02.520 --> 01:59:07.239 There's there's like no cut scenes that you know, where 2569 01:59:07.279 --> 01:59:09.760 you like shoot babies or like walk on the moon 2570 01:59:09.960 --> 01:59:14.239 or you know, like anything really extravagant happens. But at 2571 01:59:14.239 --> 01:59:16.439 the end of your work day, if there's extra stuff 2572 01:59:16.439 --> 01:59:19.199 that you didn't pack, you can steal. 2573 01:59:18.880 --> 01:59:20.439 It, which I thought was kind of interesting. 2574 01:59:21.399 --> 01:59:24.399 I feel like it doesn't fit the vibe of the world, 2575 01:59:24.439 --> 01:59:27.720 which is extremely wholesome and like you'll see, but you 2576 01:59:27.800 --> 01:59:30.439 can steal, and then after you steal, there's like a 2577 01:59:30.479 --> 01:59:32.399 guy that hangs out by a dumpster and he kind 2578 01:59:32.399 --> 01:59:35.000 of looks like a rough rabble rouser, and then you 2579 01:59:35.039 --> 01:59:37.079 sell stuff to him for like under the table, and 2580 01:59:37.159 --> 01:59:38.760 nothing bad has happened to me yet, but I always 2581 01:59:38.760 --> 01:59:39.920 found that odd that I could do that. 2582 01:59:40.039 --> 01:59:41.000 And then at the end of. 2583 01:59:40.960 --> 01:59:45.039 The day, you have to pay bills, like you know, 2584 01:59:45.079 --> 01:59:48.520 getting your nails done or paying your dog food. The 2585 01:59:48.560 --> 01:59:50.359 only way you can lose this game is if you 2586 01:59:50.399 --> 01:59:52.760 don't pay three of your bills in a row. If 2587 01:59:52.800 --> 01:59:56.359 you don't pay your bills on time, you essentially lose 2588 01:59:56.399 --> 01:59:57.880 the game. So you have to be good enough at 2589 01:59:57.920 --> 02:00:00.760 the game at least to to to pack all your 2590 02:00:00.760 --> 02:00:04.079 stuff and and and keep your shit together. One of 2591 02:00:04.119 --> 02:00:05.439 the things you can do with the law Firm is 2592 02:00:05.439 --> 02:00:08.159 you can get a divorce and then anytime there's like 2593 02:00:08.199 --> 02:00:10.159 a spousal support, you don't have to pay it, which 2594 02:00:10.199 --> 02:00:12.800 I think is also very dark. There's like something happened 2595 02:00:12.800 --> 02:00:15.520 with these developers. They were like, wait, let's let them 2596 02:00:15.520 --> 02:00:18.000 steal too, and they just left it. And I don't 2597 02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:19.640 know why they put it in there, but they did. 2598 02:00:19.800 --> 02:00:23.359 The creative director, Jim comes in on a Wednesday, clearly hungover. 2599 02:00:23.399 --> 02:00:30.640 He's like, all right, I got the main character's wife 2600 02:00:30.680 --> 02:00:34.800 is a fucking idiot bitch, and we need to figure 2601 02:00:34.840 --> 02:00:37.439 out a way to for like, uh, figure out how 2602 02:00:37.479 --> 02:00:46.800 to put some like divorce mechanics in the game. Sometimes 2603 02:00:47.000 --> 02:00:49.199 I just like to think what my life would have 2604 02:00:49.199 --> 02:00:52.439 been like years ago if I didn't propose to Karen 2605 02:00:52.680 --> 02:00:55.560 at Disneyland. And we're gonna call the game. It takes 2606 02:00:55.600 --> 02:01:00.119 two and the kid's gonna be all morose and you 2607 02:01:00.159 --> 02:01:04.800 have to kill its stuff to animal. Yeah, it'll learn something. 2608 02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:08.760 It's there's like a couple weird jarring things in it, but. 2609 02:01:08.720 --> 02:01:11.279 Anyway, I find it, especially for the two dollars I 2610 02:01:11.319 --> 02:01:13.760 paid for it. Most of the games that I bought 2611 02:01:13.920 --> 02:01:17.880 during the Steam Summer Sale are like cozy easy games 2612 02:01:17.920 --> 02:01:21.600 that you can play on a Steam deck. Easy pickins 2613 02:01:22.479 --> 02:01:24.319 for a game that just recently came out, So that's 2614 02:01:24.319 --> 02:01:24.760 Ship Inc. 2615 02:01:25.319 --> 02:01:26.279 The next one I'll throw out. 2616 02:01:26.279 --> 02:01:28.000 I also bought at the Steam Summer Sale, which was 2617 02:01:28.039 --> 02:01:30.880 Two Point Museum. I've actually never played a two point 2618 02:01:31.039 --> 02:01:34.279 game before, so you'll have to take this with a 2619 02:01:34.319 --> 02:01:34.960 grain of salt. 2620 02:01:34.960 --> 02:01:36.640 When other people are like huge. 2621 02:01:36.399 --> 02:01:40.520 Two point fans and they they've apparently accrued like this 2622 02:01:40.680 --> 02:01:44.479 mass following of these silly little I think they're also 2623 02:01:44.520 --> 02:01:48.319 sim games where you, like you know, you operate a 2624 02:01:48.359 --> 02:01:49.720 theme park or hospital. 2625 02:01:49.760 --> 02:01:50.159 Prison. 2626 02:01:51.359 --> 02:01:55.159 Yes, two point prison I think was popular. This is 2627 02:01:55.199 --> 02:01:57.720 two point museum, so you are a museum curator. 2628 02:01:58.039 --> 02:01:58.159 You. 2629 02:01:58.439 --> 02:02:01.279 I again also got this on SAE, also just adding 2630 02:02:01.279 --> 02:02:02.760 that context in there, because I was like, this is. 2631 02:02:02.760 --> 02:02:07.239 A good deal you. I love a bargoon. Don't get 2632 02:02:07.239 --> 02:02:07.600 me wrong. 2633 02:02:08.560 --> 02:02:12.239 Games are expensive and I. 2634 02:02:11.960 --> 02:02:16.479 I can't take either of you. I saw you Mike 2635 02:02:16.760 --> 02:02:19.800 Dan just spilled wine, but like you went to like 2636 02:02:19.920 --> 02:02:22.600 lick the lid to keep the trickle over going down. 2637 02:02:22.640 --> 02:02:24.680 And then I hear Mary say, I love a bargoon. 2638 02:02:25.960 --> 02:02:28.319 Why am I spending time talking to you guys every week? 2639 02:02:30.479 --> 02:02:31.159 Is above us? 2640 02:02:31.279 --> 02:02:31.479 Now? 2641 02:02:32.880 --> 02:02:34.000 I mean, yeah, but. 2642 02:02:35.760 --> 02:02:36.720 I love a bargoon. 2643 02:02:37.720 --> 02:02:39.760 I've never poured wine without having to like the bottle 2644 02:02:40.000 --> 02:02:41.039 immediately afterwards. 2645 02:02:41.039 --> 02:02:43.600 What do you well, there's a big draft that goes 2646 02:02:43.680 --> 02:02:44.760 down every time. 2647 02:02:45.119 --> 02:02:48.199 Physically, there's not a way to do it otherwise, it's 2648 02:02:48.199 --> 02:02:51.760 not true. I didn't go to small a school like 2649 02:02:51.800 --> 02:02:52.239 some of us. 2650 02:02:53.199 --> 02:02:56.279 No, it's still trickle. Sorry, Mary, you love a bargoon. 2651 02:02:59.359 --> 02:03:03.680 So that my first point you start the museum, you 2652 02:03:03.720 --> 02:03:07.079 send people off on expeditions. It's fun because they all 2653 02:03:07.079 --> 02:03:10.119 have like really stupid names like Ron Philangy and like, 2654 02:03:10.399 --> 02:03:19.920 you know, Regina Goon. 2655 02:03:19.479 --> 02:03:21.399 Struggle, really really struggle. 2656 02:03:21.439 --> 02:03:25.680 All these games seem aggressively British. 2657 02:03:25.880 --> 02:03:29.960 Could I could I could like, yeah, I don't know, 2658 02:03:30.000 --> 02:03:31.600 I could feel like I could like hook up with 2659 02:03:31.720 --> 02:03:34.319 Regina Goon and my wife would forgive me because it's 2660 02:03:34.359 --> 02:03:42.239 the COO. 2661 02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:40.880 And the game is silly. 2662 02:03:40.880 --> 02:03:43.479 The game is like filled with British humor and like 2663 02:03:43.520 --> 02:03:48.920 silly humor throughout for example, for whatever reason. So obviously 2664 02:03:48.960 --> 02:03:50.960 you're just selling tickets to your museum. You're filling it 2665 02:03:51.000 --> 02:03:54.279 with old stuff that you find on your digs, and 2666 02:03:54.560 --> 02:03:57.000 you're decorating your museum, and people come and visit you, 2667 02:03:57.079 --> 02:03:59.159 and you can actually click on each person that comes 2668 02:03:59.520 --> 02:04:04.239 and learn about their stories and their histories and what 2669 02:04:04.279 --> 02:04:06.039 makes them excited to be in the museum. And some 2670 02:04:06.079 --> 02:04:08.640 of the people that visit are yeties, Like they actually 2671 02:04:08.640 --> 02:04:11.079 have yeties that come into your museum, and they have 2672 02:04:11.119 --> 02:04:14.359 little children that run around little yeties and you can 2673 02:04:14.439 --> 02:04:16.479 learn about them. So the game doesn't take itself seriously 2674 02:04:16.560 --> 02:04:18.800 at all. It's meant to be kind of a little 2675 02:04:18.920 --> 02:04:23.079 bit of a it's playful and silly. When you go 2676 02:04:23.119 --> 02:04:26.319 on these expeditions, they'll give you like maybe one third 2677 02:04:26.439 --> 02:04:29.239 or one fourth of a dinosaur. 2678 02:04:28.880 --> 02:04:31.159 Skeleton, so you got to go back on the same expedition. 2679 02:04:31.239 --> 02:04:34.560 There is a risk that your people will get injured 2680 02:04:34.720 --> 02:04:36.760 or take away too long, or not bring back the 2681 02:04:36.800 --> 02:04:39.399 right bones. But once they do and you complete a skeleton, 2682 02:04:39.840 --> 02:04:41.920 everybody in the museum gets super hype and all these 2683 02:04:41.920 --> 02:04:45.159 people come to come to your giant t rex skeleton, 2684 02:04:45.199 --> 02:04:47.680 which I think is fun. I got kind of into 2685 02:04:47.720 --> 02:04:50.479 it then, and I was like not prepared for this 2686 02:04:50.520 --> 02:04:52.840 at all. I was doing really well, and I thought 2687 02:04:52.840 --> 02:04:54.680 my museum was like actually taking off. I had like 2688 02:04:54.800 --> 02:04:59.479 five fully constructed skeletons that I thought were awesome, and 2689 02:04:59.520 --> 02:05:00.560 I was like this game, it was great. And they 2690 02:05:00.560 --> 02:05:03.279 were like, cool, you've earned yourself. Museum number two, let's 2691 02:05:03.279 --> 02:05:05.479 start it. And I was like what, Like, I'm but 2692 02:05:05.520 --> 02:05:07.279 I'm already doing a museum, and they were like, no, 2693 02:05:07.399 --> 02:05:09.960 we're gonna do this one. It's a haunted museum. You 2694 02:05:10.000 --> 02:05:11.680 need you need to like have ghosts in it, and 2695 02:05:11.680 --> 02:05:15.279 I was like what. And everything about the second museum 2696 02:05:15.600 --> 02:05:19.119 is like a farce and fake. Uh, it was it 2697 02:05:19.199 --> 02:05:23.399 completely lost all sense of reality. I was instead of 2698 02:05:23.880 --> 02:05:28.159 curating bones and scavenging like animal remains and fossils for 2699 02:05:28.279 --> 02:05:36.439 my museum, it's it's like dolls and haunted phone booths 2700 02:05:36.520 --> 02:05:40.119 and go like actual ghosts and you have to make 2701 02:05:40.159 --> 02:05:42.560 the ghosts happy with the right furniture in order to 2702 02:05:42.640 --> 02:05:43.720 like keep your museum open. 2703 02:05:43.760 --> 02:05:45.720 And I was like, I'm out. So I don't like 2704 02:05:45.760 --> 02:05:46.479 the haunted. 2705 02:05:46.239 --> 02:05:50.199 Museum, but I like the uh. I like the one 2706 02:05:50.199 --> 02:05:51.880 where you like dig up animal bones. 2707 02:05:53.000 --> 02:05:55.000 I feel like those are like the right level of 2708 02:05:55.079 --> 02:05:57.439 like city Builder type stuff I would want, like I've 2709 02:05:57.439 --> 02:05:58.960 seen enough of those games and be like, I don't 2710 02:05:58.960 --> 02:06:01.720 want to go like super in deep on like tax 2711 02:06:01.840 --> 02:06:03.439 raids and all this stuff. I just want to like 2712 02:06:03.800 --> 02:06:06.359 build some fun stuff, see some silly characters and stuff like. 2713 02:06:06.479 --> 02:06:08.399 I've always been curious about the Two point series. 2714 02:06:08.640 --> 02:06:09.520 I was surprised. 2715 02:06:09.560 --> 02:06:12.560 It is fairly intricate, and there's so many different things 2716 02:06:12.560 --> 02:06:15.119 you can do. You can promote people, you can fire them, 2717 02:06:15.279 --> 02:06:18.800 you can give them education. I was educating a lot 2718 02:06:18.800 --> 02:06:21.640 of my people to be like smarter, faster, kinder. There's 2719 02:06:21.640 --> 02:06:23.960 one you can do that just makes their thoughts happier. 2720 02:06:24.199 --> 02:06:25.960 So if you have like a really depressed employee, you 2721 02:06:25.960 --> 02:06:27.279 can be like, I'm gonna go teach you how to 2722 02:06:27.319 --> 02:06:29.520 be happier ten percent more. And then they come back 2723 02:06:29.560 --> 02:06:32.199 and they're like, I don't hate myself anymore, and that's great, 2724 02:06:32.199 --> 02:06:32.720 Like good for you. 2725 02:06:32.880 --> 02:06:33.720 I'm a good manager. 2726 02:06:34.880 --> 02:06:38.560 You design all sorts of like decorations for the environment. 2727 02:06:38.600 --> 02:06:41.800 And I even constructed like a playhouse that was like 2728 02:06:41.840 --> 02:06:43.279 a dinosaur, and kids. 2729 02:06:43.039 --> 02:06:47.279 Like went into like the butt of. 2730 02:06:47.159 --> 02:06:49.680 The dinosaur because it's a toy and like play around 2731 02:06:49.720 --> 02:06:52.199 in its stomach and then they slide down its tongue 2732 02:06:52.239 --> 02:06:54.479 as a slide, And I was like, that's so fun. 2733 02:06:55.119 --> 02:06:57.880 So I liked that part of it, but I didn't 2734 02:06:57.960 --> 02:06:58.680 like the haunted one. 2735 02:06:58.680 --> 02:07:01.399 I don't. I don't even understand how that made sense 2736 02:07:01.479 --> 02:07:03.840 to me. It's so funny because like obviously there was. 2737 02:07:03.760 --> 02:07:06.239 To be silly and whimsical, so like I don't want 2738 02:07:06.239 --> 02:07:07.920 to take it too seriously. But at some point when 2739 02:07:07.960 --> 02:07:10.439 I was like trying to appease ghosts to be happy 2740 02:07:10.520 --> 02:07:11.920 in my museum, I was like, no. 2741 02:07:12.000 --> 02:07:12.720 You've lost me. 2742 02:07:13.159 --> 02:07:15.359 Does it feel like if you had gone forward with 2743 02:07:15.439 --> 02:07:17.560 that it would just be like other gimmick ones where 2744 02:07:17.560 --> 02:07:21.199 it's like here's the Caveman Hospital, here's the you know, ninjas. 2745 02:07:21.560 --> 02:07:24.000 I guess it was just getting sillier and sillier, and 2746 02:07:24.319 --> 02:07:26.600 I thought maybe it was going to be to a degree, 2747 02:07:26.640 --> 02:07:28.520 a little bit more realistic. When I was younger, I 2748 02:07:28.920 --> 02:07:35.399 remember playing ah a sim game where I constructed a 2749 02:07:35.520 --> 02:07:39.600 dinosaur park, you know, like Jurassic Park, and I was 2750 02:07:39.640 --> 02:07:40.720 the one doing it, and I had to make sure 2751 02:07:40.720 --> 02:07:42.159 that the fences were high enough with the t Rex 2752 02:07:42.239 --> 02:07:43.920 or they escape and they eat all your patrons. 2753 02:07:44.079 --> 02:07:45.479 And I was like, this is so sick. 2754 02:07:45.720 --> 02:07:48.159 And it was like fun because it was obviously fantasy, 2755 02:07:48.159 --> 02:07:50.960 but it was embedded in reality, like there was a 2756 02:07:51.079 --> 02:07:52.760 there was a reality to it that you could actually 2757 02:07:52.800 --> 02:07:54.359 believe that you could put a t Rex in your park, 2758 02:07:54.399 --> 02:07:56.880 and there's a reality to this, you know, to this 2759 02:07:57.000 --> 02:07:58.680 museum that I was like, oh no, I could actually 2760 02:07:58.680 --> 02:08:01.159 send people on expeditions and like put these bones and 2761 02:08:01.279 --> 02:08:03.359 decorate the rooms and people will pay me money to 2762 02:08:03.399 --> 02:08:06.119 do it. There's no reality in which like I'm actually 2763 02:08:06.159 --> 02:08:09.800 like appeasing ghosts and making people come to take photos 2764 02:08:09.840 --> 02:08:11.880 of them in a room. So it just didn't I 2765 02:08:11.960 --> 02:08:15.680 like got lost on that style of museum I wonder 2766 02:08:15.680 --> 02:08:17.439 if I'm alone on that, but I did like the 2767 02:08:17.479 --> 02:08:21.119 original museum, so yeah, so I played a shipping sim 2768 02:08:21.279 --> 02:08:28.640 and a two point museum sim. Nice, thank you steam Deck. 2769 02:08:29.640 --> 02:08:34.000 I want to get back to City Skylines two since they. 2770 02:08:34.199 --> 02:08:37.439 Yeah, because that had a rough out of the gate. 2771 02:08:37.479 --> 02:08:39.840 It was kind of rough, and yeah, I am curious 2772 02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:42.760 who because like, I played enough of one to be 2773 02:08:42.800 --> 02:08:44.600 excited for two, and then I was like, wait a minute, 2774 02:08:44.600 --> 02:08:47.239 this seems really like scaled back and kind of buggy 2775 02:08:47.279 --> 02:08:49.920 and stuff. So that was a year or two years ago. 2776 02:08:49.960 --> 02:08:53.520 Now that two came out, So yeah, I wonder where 2777 02:08:53.520 --> 02:08:54.199 that's at. 2778 02:08:54.399 --> 02:08:56.720 Yeah, because I like the first one. You could be 2779 02:08:56.880 --> 02:09:02.680 trying to build a self sustaining, beautiful, great education, et 2780 02:09:02.760 --> 02:09:05.239 cetera city, But then you could also at a certain 2781 02:09:05.279 --> 02:09:07.960 point vier into like, oh, every single person who lives 2782 02:09:07.960 --> 02:09:10.800 here is Fomka Johnson. And I like that flexibility because 2783 02:09:10.800 --> 02:09:11.880 I want to try to do that in the second 2784 02:09:11.920 --> 02:09:15.760 game as well. But I like that. The only game 2785 02:09:15.800 --> 02:09:20.760 I played like those recently is frost Punk, and that's 2786 02:09:20.800 --> 02:09:24.800 like the most bleak interpretation of that kind of game ever. 2787 02:09:25.720 --> 02:09:28.079 I tried that. That's bleak is the word. 2788 02:09:28.319 --> 02:09:34.479 Yeah, Mary, did you get a switch to you're playing 2789 02:09:34.479 --> 02:09:35.039 Mario Kart. 2790 02:09:35.239 --> 02:09:38.640 I did get a switch to. I played Mario Kart's 2791 02:09:38.760 --> 02:09:42.840 Open World section. I also played through all of the 2792 02:09:42.960 --> 02:09:45.840 Grand Prix and stuff Grand Prix just because you should, right, 2793 02:09:45.920 --> 02:09:48.520 So I've played through every I've at least tried every 2794 02:09:48.720 --> 02:09:52.159 hard level Grand Prix, you know, ace them all at 2795 02:09:52.239 --> 02:09:54.600 number one throughout the board. But I kind of get 2796 02:09:54.600 --> 02:09:57.520 bored playing that solo. And you know, I have lots 2797 02:09:57.520 --> 02:10:00.840 of friends, but I wanted to play the open world. 2798 02:10:01.680 --> 02:10:03.079 I wanted to play the open world. 2799 02:10:03.720 --> 02:10:08.800 Uh yeah, yeah, they have to be cool, and I 2800 02:10:08.840 --> 02:10:12.199 actually thought the open world was really interesting. I there 2801 02:10:12.199 --> 02:10:14.840 are these power ups throughout the open world that are 2802 02:10:14.880 --> 02:10:17.079 super fun that if you hit them, it gives you 2803 02:10:17.119 --> 02:10:19.279 a challenge, like go through all these rings within a 2804 02:10:19.279 --> 02:10:20.119 certain amount of time. 2805 02:10:20.159 --> 02:10:23.119 The peace switch missions, the peace switches. Yeah, I find 2806 02:10:23.159 --> 02:10:24.159 those really fun. 2807 02:10:25.439 --> 02:10:28.520 And I was enjoying doing those and just making sure 2808 02:10:28.560 --> 02:10:32.239 because they're actually some of them are difficult, and some 2809 02:10:32.279 --> 02:10:33.720 of them I had to like do like ten or 2810 02:10:33.760 --> 02:10:36.079 fifteen times in order to get through them. But what 2811 02:10:36.159 --> 02:10:38.239 I recognize is that each of them was actually teaching 2812 02:10:38.279 --> 02:10:41.079 me a good skill that would be very beneficial for 2813 02:10:41.199 --> 02:10:43.279 when I do have friends, and so I think that 2814 02:10:43.520 --> 02:10:47.560 was like a nice bonus, was I was like learning skills. 2815 02:10:47.560 --> 02:10:49.880 But in this like nice fun open world game, there's 2816 02:10:50.000 --> 02:10:51.720 so many secrets in the open world too. 2817 02:10:52.079 --> 02:10:54.560 Yeah, it takes a bit of exploring too, because like 2818 02:10:54.600 --> 02:10:56.279 I haven't done a ton of open world I've done 2819 02:10:56.319 --> 02:10:58.880 a lot of Grand Prixs and like online Knockout Tour 2820 02:10:58.920 --> 02:11:01.199 and all that stuff. But like I've done maybe an 2821 02:11:01.199 --> 02:11:04.640 hour of just like driving around and maybe found like 2822 02:11:04.840 --> 02:11:08.319 five piece switch missions, and it seems like there's a lot. 2823 02:11:08.359 --> 02:11:10.079 I don't know what the number is, and you're not 2824 02:11:10.079 --> 02:11:12.199 necessarily like you don't like stickers and things like that, 2825 02:11:12.279 --> 02:11:13.199 there's hundreds. 2826 02:11:13.279 --> 02:11:16.640 I found so many. I did it for like eight hours, 2827 02:11:16.680 --> 02:11:17.920 and I did drive around. 2828 02:11:18.199 --> 02:11:20.119 That's all I did was drive around and do pee 2829 02:11:20.960 --> 02:11:22.479 Where have you been calling them? I've just been calling 2830 02:11:22.479 --> 02:11:25.039 them switch missions. I've been calling them pee blocks, I 2831 02:11:25.079 --> 02:11:29.199 think or something. Yeah, But they're they're fun and there's 2832 02:11:29.319 --> 02:11:31.279 like a good challenge in them. So I've been doing 2833 02:11:31.279 --> 02:11:34.239 them for a really long time. I've also been switching 2834 02:11:34.279 --> 02:11:36.319 like the controller back and forth, and we would like 2835 02:11:38.159 --> 02:11:40.399 play with another person and they would like try and 2836 02:11:40.439 --> 02:11:42.600 beat my score, right and so there is like a 2837 02:11:42.600 --> 02:11:44.720 competitive nature to it, but we're passing the steam jack 2838 02:11:44.760 --> 02:11:45.880 back and forth, which I think is fun. 2839 02:11:46.279 --> 02:11:48.479 Yeah, I think with that stuff, I have felt no 2840 02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:51.560 real rush because I based on every other Mario card. 2841 02:11:51.600 --> 02:11:53.159 I'm just gonna be playing this game for like the 2842 02:11:53.199 --> 02:11:55.600 next eight to ten years until I make another one, 2843 02:11:55.800 --> 02:11:57.760 and so I will have plenty of time between races 2844 02:11:57.800 --> 02:11:59.239 to kind of drive around. So I haven't had like 2845 02:11:59.239 --> 02:12:02.560 a lot of dedicated open world time, but it makes 2846 02:12:02.600 --> 02:12:04.760 me happy to see, Like when I do go over 2847 02:12:04.800 --> 02:12:06.920 the map, it's like, oh shit, there are like six 2848 02:12:07.039 --> 02:12:09.079 Luigi costumes I don't have, and if I have her 2849 02:12:09.119 --> 02:12:11.039 over this track, there's like a bunch of question mark 2850 02:12:11.039 --> 02:12:13.119 blocks I haven't found. So like, I like the idea 2851 02:12:13.199 --> 02:12:15.600 there just being something in the background for me to 2852 02:12:15.680 --> 02:12:20.079 do for however long. Like again, I'm gonna keep playing 2853 02:12:20.079 --> 02:12:22.000 this game, that stuff will always be in the background. 2854 02:12:22.039 --> 02:12:24.239 So it is fun. Like the mechanics where it's like 2855 02:12:24.439 --> 02:12:26.279 we're gonna teach you how to like wall ride and 2856 02:12:26.319 --> 02:12:28.439 bounce between one wall ride to the next wall ride 2857 02:12:28.439 --> 02:12:31.000 to get the peace Witch mission or whatever. So I'm 2858 02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:32.840 sure there's some clever ones there. I still need to 2859 02:12:32.880 --> 02:12:33.520 see a lot of them. 2860 02:12:33.960 --> 02:12:36.960 Yeah, I think it's a very I did it have? 2861 02:12:37.119 --> 02:12:39.680 Did any other correct me if I'm wrong? Did any 2862 02:12:39.680 --> 02:12:42.199 other open car Mario Kart have an open world like 2863 02:12:42.239 --> 02:12:45.520 this where you could just This felt like really shocking 2864 02:12:45.560 --> 02:12:48.159 to me that they did this, And it's also all of. 2865 02:12:48.079 --> 02:12:49.000 The different. 2866 02:12:50.800 --> 02:12:54.600 Tracks stitched together, which is also like shocking, Like if 2867 02:12:54.600 --> 02:12:56.720 you just keep driving, you'll be like, oh, I'm clearly 2868 02:12:56.960 --> 02:13:00.760 on the main track that you know you start your 2869 02:13:00.800 --> 02:13:01.399 Grand Prix on. 2870 02:13:01.479 --> 02:13:03.520 Yeah, we're the toad Factory now, and now we're in 2871 02:13:03.600 --> 02:13:06.079 like you know, the suburbs of toad Factory or whatever. 2872 02:13:06.399 --> 02:13:08.399 Yeah, but they've stitched them all into like one large 2873 02:13:08.439 --> 02:13:10.680 open world. It feels a little unfinished, like there's some 2874 02:13:10.760 --> 02:13:13.840 strange decisions that were made in it. I still find 2875 02:13:13.840 --> 02:13:16.079 it odd how much you can like easily get like 2876 02:13:16.119 --> 02:13:18.880 power ups and speed bump speed power ups and stuff 2877 02:13:18.880 --> 02:13:21.920 like that. But there's no reason to go fast when 2878 02:13:21.920 --> 02:13:24.960 you're just in the open world, So it feels unnecessary 2879 02:13:24.960 --> 02:13:27.800 that there's that many power ups and like ways to boost. 2880 02:13:28.159 --> 02:13:30.439 Yeah, getting inside a semi truck and it's boosting and 2881 02:13:30.439 --> 02:13:31.760 stuff is like, well, I'm not in a race like 2882 02:13:31.800 --> 02:13:34.159 those semi tracks don't show up during a Grand Prix. 2883 02:13:34.199 --> 02:13:36.520 There's no reason to go fast unless you're you've done 2884 02:13:36.520 --> 02:13:38.079 one of those power ups, and then you need to 2885 02:13:38.079 --> 02:13:40.039 go fast because the game has told you to go 2886 02:13:40.079 --> 02:13:42.760 fast for very specific section, but for everything else you're 2887 02:13:42.800 --> 02:13:45.279 actually looking for secrets, which means you shouldn't be going 2888 02:13:45.319 --> 02:13:47.199 too fast because you might miss them. 2889 02:13:47.560 --> 02:13:47.760 Yeah. 2890 02:13:47.800 --> 02:13:50.920 I've seen people complain about the open world stuff feeling empty, 2891 02:13:50.960 --> 02:13:51.800 which I get it. 2892 02:13:51.840 --> 02:13:54.399 There's not like a tone, there's no purpose, there's no 2893 02:13:54.439 --> 02:13:55.920 purpose to running around in there. 2894 02:13:56.239 --> 02:13:58.279 No, But like, I don't think I expected that much 2895 02:13:58.319 --> 02:14:00.079 from it. I think it's a cool gimmick, but I 2896 02:14:00.119 --> 02:14:01.960 didn't really see it as much more than that. We're like, oh, 2897 02:14:02.000 --> 02:14:04.119 okay in the lobby instead of staring at a bunch 2898 02:14:04.199 --> 02:14:07.000 of knees standing on the globe, I can like kind 2899 02:14:07.000 --> 02:14:09.359 of drive around and fuck around like driving as far 2900 02:14:09.359 --> 02:14:11.439 as that goes. Yeah, I'm happy with that. I don't 2901 02:14:11.439 --> 02:14:12.800 think I was expecting more than that. 2902 02:14:12.920 --> 02:14:15.039 Really, I agree, And I also think just if I 2903 02:14:15.079 --> 02:14:18.439 can also say like similarly to like when Disney makes 2904 02:14:18.439 --> 02:14:20.439 a sequel and everyone's like, well, I don't like that, 2905 02:14:20.439 --> 02:14:21.880 that's not like what I remember, and it's like, well, 2906 02:14:21.880 --> 02:14:24.119 it's not for you anymore. I think there is an 2907 02:14:24.159 --> 02:14:26.880 element to Mario Kart that isn't really for us anymore, 2908 02:14:27.000 --> 02:14:29.479 these like experienced gamers that are like I need to 2909 02:14:29.520 --> 02:14:32.279 like collect it all. It's actually for the whimsies of 2910 02:14:32.319 --> 02:14:35.760 a child, and a kid would absolutely adore riding around 2911 02:14:35.840 --> 02:14:39.800 casually in this open world, collecting things and being really powerful. 2912 02:14:39.880 --> 02:14:42.239 And I could absolutely see giving this to like one 2913 02:14:42.279 --> 02:14:45.239 of my young nieces and seeing like how delight delighted 2914 02:14:45.279 --> 02:14:48.119 they would be just driving around endlessly and having fun. 2915 02:14:48.399 --> 02:14:50.319 Oh if I was seven and this came out, I 2916 02:14:50.319 --> 02:14:52.680 would have that entire continent mapped out, like I would 2917 02:14:52.760 --> 02:14:55.359 know every latitude and longitude to that place. 2918 02:14:55.439 --> 02:14:58.119 Yeah, so I think it's successful in that way. 2919 02:14:58.399 --> 02:15:00.560 So yeah, I've enjoyed it x It has been. 2920 02:15:01.039 --> 02:15:04.560 I add it to three out of my four cozy 2921 02:15:04.600 --> 02:15:06.239 games that I've been playing in the last two weeks, 2922 02:15:06.279 --> 02:15:09.239 because it's like, there ain't nothing more cozy than just 2923 02:15:09.319 --> 02:15:12.319 driving around aimlessly, like looking for secrets and doing like 2924 02:15:12.439 --> 02:15:14.920 little short stint puzzles when you feel like it. 2925 02:15:15.640 --> 02:15:21.760 Totally. Speaking of Wall Driving, Dan, you've been playing Tony 2926 02:15:21.760 --> 02:15:23.600 Hawk's pro Skater three and four. 2927 02:15:24.000 --> 02:15:27.640 What remax yeah, yeah, three and four are remix Are 2928 02:15:27.880 --> 02:15:29.039 you two Tony Hawk people? 2929 02:15:29.199 --> 02:15:32.479 Yeah, not like die Hard, but I appreciate them and 2930 02:15:32.600 --> 02:15:33.000 enjoy them. 2931 02:15:33.039 --> 02:15:37.159 Yeah, Mary, I think that's also my alley. 2932 02:15:37.239 --> 02:15:40.239 I mean I grew up with them as well, but 2933 02:15:40.319 --> 02:15:42.399 I was never like a die hard, but gosh, I 2934 02:15:42.439 --> 02:15:45.279 mean the tracks, like the musical tracks were always so 2935 02:15:45.319 --> 02:15:46.560 important to me growing up. 2936 02:15:47.039 --> 02:15:47.920 Yeah, I feel like. 2937 02:15:48.119 --> 02:15:50.640 There are there's maybe it's just because I'm older, but 2938 02:15:50.720 --> 02:15:53.079 like some people's gotten Bit by the Bug really hard, 2939 02:15:53.119 --> 02:15:55.479 and Tony Hawk is like on that top top tier 2940 02:15:55.560 --> 02:16:00.039 of gaming history and I'm definitely in that category. And 2941 02:16:00.079 --> 02:16:03.680 so for the Mes and Grubs of the World and Minaudi, 2942 02:16:03.760 --> 02:16:05.960 it's just like, Okay, this is like this might as 2943 02:16:06.000 --> 02:16:08.840 well be like Mario sixty four levels of like importance, 2944 02:16:08.960 --> 02:16:11.840 you know. And I was sell in bank today. I 2945 02:16:11.880 --> 02:16:15.560 was like, you know, the number one game that if 2946 02:16:15.800 --> 02:16:19.600 I just hear sounds from it makes my brain just 2947 02:16:20.000 --> 02:16:21.359 fireworks are going off of my brain. 2948 02:16:21.399 --> 02:16:22.159 It's Tony Hawk. 2949 02:16:22.199 --> 02:16:24.960 That's serious, Like it's just one of the most beautiful 2950 02:16:24.960 --> 02:16:27.960 feeling games of all time. And so that's why it's like, yeah, 2951 02:16:27.960 --> 02:16:29.920 they are just remakes. I guess we want to boil 2952 02:16:29.920 --> 02:16:31.960 it down to that, but to be able to play 2953 02:16:32.000 --> 02:16:36.159 these games refresh better graphics, you know, on the go 2954 02:16:36.280 --> 02:16:38.239 with modern consoles and stuff like that, which you know, 2955 02:16:38.280 --> 02:16:41.159 I've gone back to Tony Hawk Prestcator three a million times. 2956 02:16:41.159 --> 02:16:44.799 Anytime I get something that can play PS two on it, 2957 02:16:44.879 --> 02:16:48.280 the first game I try is Tony Hawk three and 2958 02:16:48.440 --> 02:16:50.639 to have like, oh my god, I'm doing this again, 2959 02:16:50.719 --> 02:16:53.639 which is fun every fucking time, but it looks better. 2960 02:16:53.719 --> 02:16:57.200 There's bonus goals, there's like, you know, it doesn't add 2961 02:16:57.280 --> 02:17:01.159 a ton in terms of just pure content, but I'm 2962 02:17:01.239 --> 02:17:04.280 never not smiling if I'm playing a Tonyawk game. I'm 2963 02:17:04.319 --> 02:17:07.920 just fucking thrilled. And people complain about the four stuff 2964 02:17:07.920 --> 02:17:10.120 because the original release of four had like an open 2965 02:17:10.120 --> 02:17:12.120 world thing where you walked up to NPCs and except 2966 02:17:12.200 --> 02:17:15.040 missions and blah blah blah. It was a big controversy 2967 02:17:15.079 --> 02:17:18.280 with hardcore fans. I don't mind. I actually really liked 2968 02:17:18.319 --> 02:17:21.319 the two minute thing from one, two, and three, So 2969 02:17:21.760 --> 02:17:24.440 just boiling four down to the two minute stuff does 2970 02:17:24.520 --> 02:17:29.399 not bother me at all. Iron Galaxy the new missions 2971 02:17:29.479 --> 02:17:32.520 like the water park and stuff like it just fantastic. 2972 02:17:32.600 --> 02:17:36.719 Or new maps they've been great, and another complaint has 2973 02:17:36.719 --> 02:17:39.559 been the soundtrack, because like, only a handful of tracks 2974 02:17:39.680 --> 02:17:42.840 are back from three and four, and I think they 2975 02:17:42.840 --> 02:17:44.879 got the ones that, like, they didn't have Asis Phades, 2976 02:17:45.000 --> 02:17:48.200 they didn't have Dell, the punky Homo sapien. I would 2977 02:17:48.200 --> 02:17:49.959 have been like, well, those are like, you know, those 2978 02:17:49.959 --> 02:17:52.040 are the ones. They have those, And then they have 2979 02:17:52.079 --> 02:17:54.079 a bunch of like more modern songs that really fit 2980 02:17:54.159 --> 02:17:57.719 the tone of Tony Hawk, and I'm thrilled. I'm just 2981 02:17:57.760 --> 02:18:00.959 thrilled playing. I got it on switched to the first 2982 02:18:01.040 --> 02:18:05.399 night I beat the game and didn't like almost like 2983 02:18:05.479 --> 02:18:07.600 every goal. I didn't do all the pro goals. But 2984 02:18:07.639 --> 02:18:09.200 then I was like, ah, it's kind of crashing a 2985 02:18:09.239 --> 02:18:11.479 lot on the Switch version. So I got it again 2986 02:18:11.639 --> 02:18:13.920 on PS five and now I'm about to beat it 2987 02:18:13.959 --> 02:18:16.239 on PS five, Like I will just keep beating this 2988 02:18:16.360 --> 02:18:18.200 game and playing it over and over and over again 2989 02:18:18.239 --> 02:18:20.959 and loving it. If you are going to play on Switch, 2990 02:18:21.000 --> 02:18:23.520 I will give the caveat that if you're playing a 2991 02:18:23.559 --> 02:18:27.120 handheld and you're not an analog stick pervert, which if 2992 02:18:27.159 --> 02:18:29.600 you are playing Tony Hawk with an analog stick, you're 2993 02:18:29.600 --> 02:18:35.120 a pervert. The dpad stuff is not great on the 2994 02:18:35.159 --> 02:18:37.760 Switch handheld just because it's those four buttons and like 2995 02:18:38.159 --> 02:18:40.680 that PlayStation dpad is what I want for Tony Hawk. 2996 02:18:41.440 --> 02:18:43.520 And it did crash, like the first time I played 2997 02:18:43.520 --> 02:18:45.879 on switch to it crashed like five or six times 2998 02:18:46.200 --> 02:18:48.799 in one sitting. That's a problem. I'm sure that will 2999 02:18:48.799 --> 02:18:50.920 get patched out. I'm sure that'll be fine. And it 3000 02:18:50.959 --> 02:18:52.920 did run well when it was working, so I think 3001 02:18:52.920 --> 02:18:54.559 that'll be a non su maybe by the time this 3002 02:18:54.639 --> 02:18:58.920 podcast goes up, but no, I'm probably gonna maine the 3003 02:18:58.959 --> 02:19:02.239 game on PS five right now. It's fantastic. They nailed 3004 02:19:02.239 --> 02:19:04.079 the feel of it. They've tried this before, they did 3005 02:19:04.079 --> 02:19:06.360 the Tony Auks first Getter HD and the feel wasn't right. 3006 02:19:06.399 --> 02:19:09.399 And anyone who plays Tony Hawk knows immediately if the 3007 02:19:09.399 --> 02:19:11.879 feel is right. And they have totally nailed the feel. 3008 02:19:12.399 --> 02:19:16.479 And I love it. I absolutely fucking love it. Tony 3009 02:19:16.520 --> 02:19:17.840 Hawk's one of the best series of all time. 3010 02:19:19.000 --> 02:19:19.920 I mean, you can't go wrong. 3011 02:19:20.040 --> 02:19:22.319 That's so cool, and it's glad that it brings you 3012 02:19:22.360 --> 02:19:25.040 back like those amazing feelings of nostalgia. 3013 02:19:25.120 --> 02:19:25.760 I think. 3014 02:19:27.079 --> 02:19:29.360 There's probably nothing better when you do a remake than 3015 02:19:29.479 --> 02:19:33.040 not messing with the original guts too much. So that 3016 02:19:33.040 --> 02:19:35.600 people could just enjoy what they loved when they were kids. 3017 02:19:35.920 --> 02:19:38.040 Yeah, which I'm about to find out with Snake Eater, 3018 02:19:38.120 --> 02:19:40.559 because that remax coming up and I'm about to start 3019 02:19:40.600 --> 02:19:42.799 playing it. Probably in an episode or two, I'll be 3020 02:19:42.840 --> 02:19:45.280 talking about it. And I already went on a trip 3021 02:19:45.280 --> 02:19:46.920 and played it, and it's like, Okay, you didn't fuck 3022 02:19:46.959 --> 02:19:48.799 with it. What I've seen, they didn't fuck with it, 3023 02:19:48.840 --> 02:19:50.760 and like that's the way to do a classic. It's like, 3024 02:19:51.040 --> 02:19:52.959 don't try to do your own spin on this thing 3025 02:19:53.000 --> 02:19:55.159 that everyone loves because people are going to fucking push 3026 02:19:55.200 --> 02:19:57.959 back on that. Just make it look better, make it 3027 02:19:57.959 --> 02:20:00.559 control better. Like that's that's a great remake grid there. 3028 02:20:00.639 --> 02:20:03.719 Yeah, but then like Resume will one remake, but also 3029 02:20:03.879 --> 02:20:05.120 remakes fly in the face of that. 3030 02:20:05.479 --> 02:20:08.719 Those are mostly like quality of life upgrades though right. 3031 02:20:08.680 --> 02:20:12.440 Like no Resume Will one remake is a complex resumele 3032 02:20:12.600 --> 02:20:15.319 remake is a complete overhaul, and it's those games like 3033 02:20:15.360 --> 02:20:16.639 the last twenty years. 3034 02:20:16.840 --> 02:20:19.799 But the thing is like our stuff is still like 3035 02:20:20.319 --> 02:20:22.559 the people who are in charge of are making it, 3036 02:20:22.639 --> 02:20:26.159 you know, with like Iron Galaxy is not never soft, 3037 02:20:26.239 --> 02:20:29.639 you know, current Konami is not Kajima. Yeah, so it's 3038 02:20:29.719 --> 02:20:31.719 like I think, if you were not the people that 3039 02:20:31.840 --> 02:20:34.639 were in charge of it originally, just be faithful and 3040 02:20:34.680 --> 02:20:36.799 make it look better and play better. Don't try to 3041 02:20:36.840 --> 02:20:38.920 do like we got a better idea for snake Eater. 3042 02:20:39.000 --> 02:20:41.600 You know, yep, no, I get that, Uh Mary? What 3043 02:20:41.680 --> 02:20:43.920 is quickly? Block Blast? Talk about it? Quickly? 3044 02:20:44.600 --> 02:20:49.879 Super quickly block blast? You guys into phone games movie. 3045 02:20:52.239 --> 02:20:56.879 Block Blast is Tetris with a little bit of puzzle 3046 02:20:57.159 --> 02:20:57.920 and crack. 3047 02:20:58.200 --> 02:20:58.719 That's it. 3048 02:20:59.000 --> 02:21:01.920 Like, it's like all three of those things, but instead 3049 02:21:01.920 --> 02:21:05.399 of doing it fast, you think about your moves and 3050 02:21:05.479 --> 02:21:08.200 you place them strategically for the highest score. 3051 02:21:08.920 --> 02:21:10.840 It is addictive and I can. 3052 02:21:10.719 --> 02:21:14.559 Play it on a plane while it's taking off on 3053 02:21:14.600 --> 02:21:15.000 my phone. 3054 02:21:15.040 --> 02:21:16.239 And that's why I got really into it. 3055 02:21:16.280 --> 02:21:20.079 I asked my boss what their kids love the most 3056 02:21:20.120 --> 02:21:22.440 on the phone, and she was like, everybody's talking about 3057 02:21:22.559 --> 02:21:25.200 block Blasts, and I was like, bet, And so I 3058 02:21:25.319 --> 02:21:29.079 downloaded this game and it is It is a modern 3059 02:21:29.120 --> 02:21:32.319 puzzle Tetris crack and I know we like Tetris, so 3060 02:21:32.520 --> 02:21:35.200 it's the same mechanics, it's the same pieces. 3061 02:21:35.680 --> 02:21:38.040 D take away. 3062 02:21:38.719 --> 02:21:44.159 I'm telling yeah, Dan, remember. 3063 02:21:42.719 --> 02:21:44.600 No, I don't remember all the time. 3064 02:21:45.079 --> 02:21:47.520 Well, in our next one hundred best games of all time. 3065 02:21:47.600 --> 02:21:51.440 Block Blast is going to beat Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater, 3066 02:21:51.559 --> 02:21:53.319 so you should probably play this that you can be 3067 02:21:53.360 --> 02:21:58.799 prepared for the argument block Blast, All right, that's bad 3068 02:21:58.799 --> 02:21:59.399 for mobile game. 3069 02:22:00.360 --> 02:22:03.760 You guys want to talk about emails? Yeah, the concept? 3070 02:22:04.239 --> 02:22:06.520 Yeah, what are they? 3071 02:22:06.840 --> 02:22:07.920 Let's talk about emails. 3072 02:22:08.200 --> 02:22:14.000 Can a pigeons? No audio listeners you're missing? You should 3073 02:22:14.000 --> 02:22:16.440 go to Patren. Oh boy, this is worth it alone. 3074 02:22:16.680 --> 02:22:19.120 Oh he's doing tongue stuff. Oh god, look at him. 3075 02:22:19.159 --> 02:22:23.079 Go oh god, technically that's Mary doing that. 3076 02:22:24.399 --> 02:22:25.200 Oh that's true. 3077 02:22:25.639 --> 02:22:30.159 Ron Falangie, Regina Goon, Ginaon. 3078 02:22:30.840 --> 02:22:33.120 I love it. It notified Marry that changed the name. 3079 02:22:33.159 --> 02:22:34.360 But I don't think Dan saw it. 3080 02:22:34.920 --> 02:22:37.360 I see it now, Yeah. 3081 02:22:36.559 --> 02:22:37.719 I saw both of them. 3082 02:22:38.120 --> 02:22:41.440 I just tried to muscle my way through one fucking 3083 02:22:41.520 --> 02:22:44.760 game without you guys taking it up with all your. 3084 02:22:46.040 --> 02:22:52.959 As you know you're not Yes, I gotta go pee, okay. 3085 02:22:53.000 --> 02:22:55.040 As always, you can write into Fire's cap pass at 3086 02:22:55.040 --> 02:22:59.799 gmail dot com with comments, questions, concerns. We'll take all 3087 02:22:59.840 --> 02:23:02.319 them into account. Thank you to a lot of people 3088 02:23:02.360 --> 02:23:05.200 who wrote in last episode. I had been talking about 3089 02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:07.399 a game that I could not for the life of me. Remember, 3090 02:23:07.639 --> 02:23:10.280 I remember I played it during twenty nineteen or twenty 3091 02:23:10.360 --> 02:23:12.159 or twenty one. It was very vague, but I gave 3092 02:23:13.440 --> 02:23:18.799 general mechanical memories about it, and it was in fact indivisible. 3093 02:23:19.680 --> 02:23:21.719 If you have not played it, look it up. It's 3094 02:23:21.840 --> 02:23:24.120 very inspired by And this might have thrown some people 3095 02:23:24.120 --> 02:23:26.280 because I said it was turn based. It's inspired by 3096 02:23:26.360 --> 02:23:29.680 Valkyrie Profile, which is like half like not quite clear 3097 02:23:29.680 --> 02:23:33.159 obscure levels, but sort of real time, sort of turn based, 3098 02:23:33.159 --> 02:23:36.200 sort of Final Fantasy six. So that might have been 3099 02:23:36.239 --> 02:23:38.040 with threw people off. But it was indivisible. And the 3100 02:23:38.079 --> 02:23:40.159 reason I could not find it is because I was 3101 02:23:40.159 --> 02:23:42.440 going through my Steam library game by game, when in 3102 02:23:42.440 --> 02:23:45.600 fact I owned it in my PlayStation library. I don't 3103 02:23:45.680 --> 02:23:48.159 do it. But that's Firescape past at gmail dot com. 3104 02:23:48.159 --> 02:23:51.399 Thank you to everybody who wrote in. I kind of 3105 02:23:51.479 --> 02:23:53.879 jumped the gun on the beginning of this, Mary, But 3106 02:23:53.959 --> 02:23:55.920 do you want to read this first one from Alice. 3107 02:23:58.159 --> 02:24:00.719 Hi, Guys, just letting you know that the game Mike 3108 02:24:00.799 --> 02:24:04.319 is talking about sounds like indivisible to me anyways, since 3109 02:24:04.360 --> 02:24:06.399 I'm writing in anyway, if you had to turn a 3110 02:24:06.479 --> 02:24:09.840 music video into a game, what would you choose Alice. 3111 02:24:09.440 --> 02:24:10.159 Thanks Alice. 3112 02:24:11.120 --> 02:24:15.719 Black Hole Sun Sound Garden, Woh what would the game up? 3113 02:24:16.120 --> 02:24:19.200 It scared the shit out of me as a kid. 3114 02:24:19.280 --> 02:24:22.719 It's like the spookiest vibe I've ever seen from a 3115 02:24:22.799 --> 02:24:24.440 music video. If you haven't seen it, it's a lot 3116 02:24:24.440 --> 02:24:28.120 of like the world is like like the black hole sun, 3117 02:24:28.159 --> 02:24:30.040 the sun is turning into a black hole, and it's 3118 02:24:30.079 --> 02:24:32.360 a bunch of people in the suburbs looking up and. 3119 02:24:32.399 --> 02:24:35.159 Like bumpies or something, and they're like into it. 3120 02:24:35.239 --> 02:24:37.280 Like it's a lot of like, oh, ladies doing laundry, 3121 02:24:37.280 --> 02:24:39.239 and she looks up and sees the world's ending, and 3122 02:24:39.280 --> 02:24:42.959 like the face contorts like crazy, And it was the 3123 02:24:42.959 --> 02:24:47.600 face contorting stuff that just fucked me up as a kid. Yeah, 3124 02:24:47.840 --> 02:24:49.399 oh god, I'm looking at that picture right now, the 3125 02:24:49.440 --> 02:24:50.559 lady chopping a fish. 3126 02:24:51.360 --> 02:24:55.040 Paper Boy sixty four vibes. Yeah, it's real fucked up. 3127 02:24:55.079 --> 02:24:55.760 And it was just like the. 3128 02:24:58.479 --> 02:25:02.159 Very dramatically negative apocalypse stuff and then people just like 3129 02:25:02.239 --> 02:25:05.200 smiling super huge. As a kid, I was like, this 3130 02:25:05.280 --> 02:25:08.920 is fucking crazy, really scariest, like that tone I would love. 3131 02:25:11.719 --> 02:25:14.600 I really liked the I don't know which one would, 3132 02:25:14.920 --> 02:25:18.719 but but sorry you have answered like half of it Oh, 3133 02:25:18.799 --> 02:25:20.840 what was the other part, Well, not really if you 3134 02:25:20.840 --> 02:25:22.879 had to turn a music video into a game, oh, 3135 02:25:22.920 --> 02:25:28.280 I guess I was just thinking a horror game. 3136 02:25:28.959 --> 02:25:31.319 Yeah, or maybe like a weird open world game where 3137 02:25:31.799 --> 02:25:33.760 I don't know, the blood moon shows up and everyone 3138 02:25:33.760 --> 02:25:34.920 freaks the fuck out or something. 3139 02:25:35.760 --> 02:25:41.840 Do you remember the music video for Christopher Walking in Fat. 3140 02:25:41.680 --> 02:25:45.159 Boy Slim's musical yeah, dancing weapon of choice choice. 3141 02:25:44.959 --> 02:25:46.760 Thank You, when he's going up and down that hotel 3142 02:25:46.879 --> 02:25:49.639 the escalator. I'm trying to think of, like how you 3143 02:25:49.639 --> 02:25:51.120 could turn that into it. I remember that was like 3144 02:25:51.159 --> 02:25:53.319 the early not the earliest, but I remember that video 3145 02:25:53.399 --> 02:25:55.040 game like it was one of those weird things my 3146 02:25:55.159 --> 02:25:58.719 dad got obsessed with, Like he had come up with 3147 02:25:58.879 --> 02:26:01.719 Christopher Walking. They're probably the same age, i'd say similar, 3148 02:26:01.799 --> 02:26:03.840 so like to him to see Christopher walkin doing that 3149 02:26:04.559 --> 02:26:06.719 and my dad was not super into this. British DJ 3150 02:26:07.799 --> 02:26:10.319 was very funny to him, so he watched that music 3151 02:26:10.399 --> 02:26:13.639 video I have to say, twice a week for like 3152 02:26:13.920 --> 02:26:16.040 a decade. Well that was the thing. 3153 02:26:16.120 --> 02:26:19.159 Is like, at that point, Walking was not a full 3154 02:26:19.239 --> 02:26:22.079 meme yet, Like now, I feel like Christopher Walking is 3155 02:26:22.079 --> 02:26:24.440 so memified and everything like that. He was a very 3156 02:26:24.440 --> 02:26:28.399 respected actor. Hey, people would do impressions of him, for sure, 3157 02:26:28.399 --> 02:26:30.639 and they do. They're talking and you know all that stuff. 3158 02:26:30.799 --> 02:26:32.959 But like if there's something around the mid to late 3159 02:26:33.079 --> 02:26:35.120 nineties where it's like he got the cow Bell sketch, 3160 02:26:35.239 --> 02:26:37.559 you got the fat Boy Slim video, that's where it's 3161 02:26:37.600 --> 02:26:39.520 like he became like and like the Internet was becoming 3162 02:26:39.520 --> 02:26:42.959 a thing. He became kind of this internet darling almost 3163 02:26:43.159 --> 02:26:46.120 early meme thing, you know. And I think Weapon of 3164 02:26:46.239 --> 02:26:47.280 Choice is a big part of that. 3165 02:26:47.360 --> 02:26:48.840 Yeah, I guess to your point, if he didn't now 3166 02:26:48.879 --> 02:26:50.799 it'd be like, oh, he's off doing his thing, he's 3167 02:26:50.840 --> 02:26:53.959 a wacky guy. Yeah, no, no, that's that's a good point. 3168 02:26:54.879 --> 02:26:57.639 I just remember, I don't know that I've ever loved 3169 02:26:57.680 --> 02:27:00.719 anything the way my dad loved that music video. And 3170 02:27:00.879 --> 02:27:04.680 you guys have met my dad brief wife. Well, no anything, 3171 02:27:04.920 --> 02:27:10.159 not anybody, anybody? Oh okay, I can't Yeah, ar Marines, what. 3172 02:27:10.479 --> 02:27:13.959 Fuck Amanda, he doesn't love you? 3173 02:27:14.239 --> 02:27:21.319 I textenter none of my favorite I'm an ally, I 3174 02:27:21.319 --> 02:27:30.120 love my wife, she's my favorite. Gangdam style would be 3175 02:27:30.120 --> 02:27:31.479 a sick I. 3176 02:27:31.520 --> 02:27:34.719 Fucking brought that up, and we were like looking these 3177 02:27:34.760 --> 02:27:36.159 up ahead of time, just to make sure we had 3178 02:27:36.159 --> 02:27:39.159 something in our heads. GANDAM Style would be an absolute 3179 02:27:39.360 --> 02:27:42.200 diabolical video game. It would just probably be like a 3180 02:27:42.239 --> 02:27:46.239 bunch of stupid mini games like can you walk you 3181 02:27:46.280 --> 02:27:51.000 know through this like high wind tunnel, you know, without getting. 3182 02:27:50.760 --> 02:27:52.120 Too much garbage on you. 3183 02:27:52.239 --> 02:27:55.399 It would be so funny, likes such a stupid it 3184 02:27:55.399 --> 02:27:59.200 would remind me of uh not, I think. 3185 02:27:59.079 --> 02:27:59.719 You should leave. 3186 02:28:00.120 --> 02:28:02.399 What's that stupid British game that's cartoon that we all 3187 02:28:02.399 --> 02:28:04.600 thought was really funny? 3188 02:28:04.600 --> 02:28:06.000 I think yes, yes, yes, it was Fanda. 3189 02:28:06.079 --> 02:28:07.319 I think it would be like that. It would be 3190 02:28:07.360 --> 02:28:10.200 like stupid shit happening in many micro games. 3191 02:28:11.559 --> 02:28:14.479 Oh, I got one? Okay YouTube are I'm going to 3192 02:28:14.520 --> 02:28:17.680 feel old here? Green Jello, three little pigs. 3193 02:28:17.639 --> 02:28:20.399 And you know this? You do? Yeah? How do you 3194 02:28:20.440 --> 02:28:20.680 know that? 3195 02:28:20.799 --> 02:28:21.600 I have to google that. 3196 02:28:21.600 --> 02:28:24.120 I don't know. I've got it. I've got fucking I'm 3197 02:28:24.120 --> 02:28:27.200 the youngest of in a family of seven. If my 3198 02:28:27.239 --> 02:28:27.760 parents like it. 3199 02:28:28.040 --> 02:28:32.360 I was obsessed with this video. It's a claymation video 3200 02:28:32.399 --> 02:28:35.719 from like probably like nineteen ninety two, and it's just 3201 02:28:35.719 --> 02:28:38.280 about like the wolf blowing down like from the hair 3202 02:28:38.479 --> 02:28:41.200 my Tritney tinchin and it was all these clamation pigs 3203 02:28:41.239 --> 02:28:43.840 and stuff, and it was this weird metal band and 3204 02:28:44.040 --> 02:28:45.440 I wanted to buy the CD but there was a 3205 02:28:45.440 --> 02:28:47.840 song called shit Man on it and my mom was like, 3206 02:28:48.079 --> 02:28:52.719 probably you're like eight, you shouldn't buy this, but yeah, 3207 02:28:53.000 --> 02:28:56.840 full on clamation weird like two adult version of a 3208 02:28:56.879 --> 02:28:58.879 fable like Kids Fabled, that'd be cool. 3209 02:29:00.680 --> 02:29:01.319 I think that. 3210 02:29:03.040 --> 02:29:05.959 If we wanted to do story based right, like a 3211 02:29:06.000 --> 02:29:09.159 game that we think would have like a really valuable 3212 02:29:09.200 --> 02:29:11.840 story to tell but still be really fun to play. 3213 02:29:12.360 --> 02:29:15.079 I think One by Metallica is one of the most 3214 02:29:15.079 --> 02:29:19.959 incredible music videos of all time. One is a really 3215 02:29:20.000 --> 02:29:22.639 long song, right, like it's like over seven minutes long. 3216 02:29:22.959 --> 02:29:26.879 The music video depicts basically like the horrors of war, 3217 02:29:28.000 --> 02:29:30.399 and so it's like showing someone who's like been through 3218 02:29:31.079 --> 02:29:33.559 a lot of the problems in World War One and 3219 02:29:33.600 --> 02:29:35.520 their PTSD and they actually I think they have like 3220 02:29:35.559 --> 02:29:37.079 most of their arms and legs and. 3221 02:29:37.079 --> 02:29:38.559 Like face shot on my. 3222 02:29:40.559 --> 02:29:43.000 Line, yeah, yes, and they're like all fucked up and 3223 02:29:43.000 --> 02:29:45.280 they're like in the music video, they're basically like kill me, 3224 02:29:45.479 --> 02:29:48.120 like I don't want to be here, ayre. I think 3225 02:29:48.159 --> 02:29:51.239 that there's like cinematic elements of that that would be 3226 02:29:51.360 --> 02:29:56.159 like Gangbusters in a video game to explain the horrors 3227 02:29:56.200 --> 02:29:58.840 of war. I don't think we accurately do that super well, 3228 02:29:58.879 --> 02:30:01.559 but I do think there's games that depicts war in the. 3229 02:30:03.040 --> 02:30:07.920 SAPs the line. What what are you laughing at that? 3230 02:30:09.040 --> 02:30:12.600 I laugh because I laugh because Mike laughed, and his name. 3231 02:30:12.520 --> 02:30:17.399 Is most Edged Lord. Like this game like says something. 3232 02:30:17.360 --> 02:30:20.559 Specps the line, and that was a fucking bold game. 3233 02:30:20.719 --> 02:30:27.079 I agree what you laughed, I don't line is an 3234 02:30:27.079 --> 02:30:30.959 interesting game. I agree the way you said it was 3235 02:30:31.000 --> 02:30:35.959 just find of darkness. Yeah, Joseph Conrad all that Apocalypse Now. 3236 02:30:36.440 --> 02:30:39.399 Okay, Apocalypse Now is like one of my favorite movies 3237 02:30:39.440 --> 02:30:42.559 of all time, and I think, like, I think that's 3238 02:30:42.559 --> 02:30:42.879 not a. 3239 02:30:42.959 --> 02:30:45.719 Wait, what's his fucking face, Mike, It's maybe my favorite 3240 02:30:45.760 --> 02:30:47.479 movie of all time? What face? 3241 02:30:47.559 --> 02:30:51.360 I love the movie. I love the movie. 3242 02:30:51.639 --> 02:30:52.520 Making fun of us. 3243 02:30:52.680 --> 02:30:54.600 I'm not making fun of you. I like that movie. 3244 02:30:55.319 --> 02:30:57.920 You think you're so fucking great? 3245 02:30:58.479 --> 02:31:00.719 Well, I got a post for bark was now outside 3246 02:31:00.719 --> 02:31:03.040 this door. Box got a poster in her office. I 3247 02:31:03.159 --> 02:31:04.440 like the problem. 3248 02:31:04.799 --> 02:31:07.000 We love that move now. I thought speck Ops was great. 3249 02:31:07.120 --> 02:31:07.520 That's all. 3250 02:31:08.280 --> 02:31:09.840 Shut the fuck up. 3251 02:31:10.719 --> 02:31:11.760 What do you know about war? 3252 02:31:12.360 --> 02:31:22.840 Yeah, you haven't seen a gun. He's got PTSD. Oh no, 3253 02:31:23.319 --> 02:31:26.239 the horror, Oh god, the horror. 3254 02:31:28.319 --> 02:31:29.079 They're in the trees. 3255 02:31:31.319 --> 02:31:34.319 I think that a six story based game. I think 3256 02:31:34.360 --> 02:31:37.159 if we're talking about gameplay right, like visually, this music 3257 02:31:37.239 --> 02:31:40.719 video would probably make for some sick gameplay. Save seven 3258 02:31:40.959 --> 02:31:44.040 Nation Army by White Stripes would make the best thumper 3259 02:31:44.120 --> 02:31:45.159 level of all time. 3260 02:31:45.559 --> 02:31:53.479 Yeah, totally Yeah. I wanted to mention this email and 3261 02:31:53.600 --> 02:31:58.239 I cannot speak to the quality of this. However, do 3262 02:31:58.319 --> 02:32:03.360 you guys subscribe to the newsletter Simon at Game Discover Code? No, 3263 02:32:04.639 --> 02:32:08.280 really intelligent dude, like breaking down like why certain game? Mary, 3264 02:32:08.319 --> 02:32:14.479 You'd love it. I'll send it to you. Why certain games? No? No, no, no, 3265 02:32:14.520 --> 02:32:15.280 he like Dan. 3266 02:32:15.360 --> 02:32:17.879 There's a finger painting that I think you would absolutely love. 3267 02:32:19.040 --> 02:32:21.920 My niece, did this like turkey hand thing that you 3268 02:32:21.959 --> 02:32:30.520 would put on your Yeah? Okay, Simon Carlos does a 3269 02:32:30.559 --> 02:32:33.040 newsletter that's really good. You both like it, but marry 3270 02:32:33.120 --> 02:32:36.840 because you like combed Steam for unique indie games all 3271 02:32:36.840 --> 02:32:40.040 the time. There's a game called Dead as Disco. There's 3272 02:32:40.079 --> 02:32:46.040 a demo available supposedly this game blew up on Steam. 3273 02:32:46.079 --> 02:32:47.479 I think I want to say, like a month ago, 3274 02:32:47.639 --> 02:32:51.000 two months ago, just says coming soon. You can upload 3275 02:32:51.159 --> 02:32:54.680 any song you want to the game, and then the 3276 02:32:54.760 --> 02:32:57.319 game will put you in a music video where you 3277 02:32:57.399 --> 02:33:01.559 are like Seafu fighting people to the song. I have 3278 02:33:01.639 --> 02:33:05.079 not played it myself. Apparently it's red. So you upload 3279 02:33:05.120 --> 02:33:07.840 any song you want. So you could put Weapon of Choice. 3280 02:33:07.840 --> 02:33:10.840 You could put Baby one More Time, you could put 3281 02:33:11.120 --> 02:33:14.440 seven Nation Army, you could put Dan what what video 3282 02:33:14.479 --> 02:33:17.559 do you put black hole son and you'll fight through 3283 02:33:18.920 --> 02:33:24.280 this like and I get yes, there's like rhythm aspects, 3284 02:33:24.319 --> 02:33:27.559 but like apparently the game adjusts. I don't know how 3285 02:33:27.600 --> 02:33:28.120 it does it. 3286 02:33:28.719 --> 02:33:32.000 E of the Ludacrous video where you had the really 3287 02:33:32.000 --> 02:33:35.200 big hands, you have the big hole cans get back 3288 02:33:35.360 --> 02:33:41.159 and he was get back and then yeah yeah and 3289 02:33:41.200 --> 02:33:44.600 ever as well he was big like word of mouth, 3290 02:33:44.719 --> 02:33:46.559 you had the big head and then get back you 3291 02:33:46.559 --> 02:33:49.040 had the big hands. Ludacris is big on the big 3292 02:33:49.239 --> 02:33:50.559 hand gimmicks stuff. 3293 02:33:50.639 --> 02:33:52.959 Yeah, I like that, but I don't know. Check out 3294 02:33:54.159 --> 02:33:57.079 try the try the uh Martial Arts music video and 3295 02:33:57.120 --> 02:33:59.239 Dennis Disco Neon drench beat him up where every punch 3296 02:33:59.319 --> 02:34:02.760 kick and comos to the music. So yeah, you can 3297 02:34:03.520 --> 02:34:06.879 supposedly upload I don't think I'm making this all up. 3298 02:34:10.120 --> 02:34:11.879 People are making rematch Emig. 3299 02:34:11.639 --> 02:34:13.719 Boss's Belly from Baandleis with killer move in your own 3300 02:34:13.719 --> 02:34:17.760 sing sure tracks and you're no. There's a demo available though, 3301 02:34:19.479 --> 02:34:22.360 add your own custom songs and fight endlessly in our arena. 3302 02:34:22.399 --> 02:34:23.920 Infinite disco solar co op. 3303 02:34:24.600 --> 02:34:26.159 That's a neat concept, bright to music. 3304 02:34:26.239 --> 02:34:28.959 Yeah, so cool. I don't know. Try it out. 3305 02:34:29.159 --> 02:34:31.000 Let's to put K pop demon Hunters in it? 3306 02:34:31.239 --> 02:34:31.440 Eh? 3307 02:34:32.479 --> 02:34:32.559 No? 3308 02:34:33.479 --> 02:34:35.399 Okay? Well, Dan, do you want to read this one? 3309 02:34:35.600 --> 02:34:37.440 Thank you Alice. By the way, Dan, do you want 3310 02:34:37.440 --> 02:34:39.879 to read this one from Dustin? Yes. 3311 02:34:40.559 --> 02:34:43.079 I have always been a person who loves the quiet life, 3312 02:34:43.319 --> 02:34:46.520 just enjoying my video games, books and shows. In the 3313 02:34:46.520 --> 02:34:49.079 past six years, that has completely changed when we had 3314 02:34:49.079 --> 02:34:50.559 our first baby, alpaca. 3315 02:34:50.639 --> 02:34:52.719 I'll send you to the photos though, please. 3316 02:34:53.239 --> 02:34:55.520 We found out soon after his birth there is a 3317 02:34:55.520 --> 02:34:59.040 whole national show system where alpacas are judged on their 3318 02:34:59.079 --> 02:35:03.760 fiber quality in body confirmation. This is life changing for 3319 02:35:03.840 --> 02:35:06.319 us and we are now part of our state Alpaca 3320 02:35:06.399 --> 02:35:10.239 Association board and we go to multiple shows each year 3321 02:35:10.280 --> 02:35:12.879 with our alpacas. I've said outpaca a lot more than 3322 02:35:12.879 --> 02:35:13.399 they usually do. 3323 02:35:13.680 --> 02:35:14.680 I love this so much. 3324 02:35:14.879 --> 02:35:18.079 I am actually in the ring with the judges assisting them. 3325 02:35:18.680 --> 02:35:21.719 This has completely changed my life from being introverted and 3326 02:35:21.840 --> 02:35:26.319 anxious to becoming more extroverted, though the anxiety is still there. 3327 02:35:26.799 --> 02:35:30.280 Now my question, what exotic animal would you like to 3328 02:35:30.319 --> 02:35:32.799 devote your time towards if there was a humane show 3329 02:35:32.879 --> 02:35:36.760 system for them from Dustin? Wow, Dustin, that's a whole. 3330 02:35:36.920 --> 02:35:38.600 That's a saga. That's very interesting. 3331 02:35:38.600 --> 02:35:41.280 Look at the photos. Yeah, look at the photos in 3332 02:35:41.319 --> 02:35:43.040 that discord. I just saw you the phone. Look at 3333 02:35:43.040 --> 02:35:48.600 that last one. That's a cute animal. That's good. Oh, 3334 02:35:50.040 --> 02:35:53.239 I get that. I would. I mean, I'm fairly outgoing 3335 02:35:53.399 --> 02:35:55.479 to like the fact that they kind of brought you 3336 02:35:55.680 --> 02:36:00.440 out of that sphere is even more emboldening. That's great. 3337 02:36:02.079 --> 02:36:05.239 Good for you. Very glad to hear that. I love that. 3338 02:36:05.319 --> 02:36:07.280 I love hearing about Like, oh, here's the like I 3339 02:36:07.559 --> 02:36:10.159 found this key that unlocked, Like, oh, I've always been 3340 02:36:10.399 --> 02:36:12.840 missing shy or whatever, and now it's like I found 3341 02:36:12.840 --> 02:36:13.799 my thing and now we're cool. 3342 02:36:14.319 --> 02:36:17.079 Yeah, it's not pacas for him. They are cool looking. 3343 02:36:17.120 --> 02:36:21.040 I don't know pacas might. Looking at these photos, I 3344 02:36:21.079 --> 02:36:22.440 think mine's al Pakas. 3345 02:36:22.639 --> 02:36:29.719 But I'm coming around cats exact. I know they're not exotic, 3346 02:36:29.799 --> 02:36:30.600 but I don't know how much. 3347 02:36:30.440 --> 02:36:33.319 I talked about cats are exotic. They're weird. 3348 02:36:34.079 --> 02:36:37.360 I am very fascinated by how weird cats are. 3349 02:36:37.479 --> 02:36:38.760 It's my first real cat. 3350 02:36:40.680 --> 02:36:41.440 The cat family. 3351 02:36:41.559 --> 02:36:43.120 Cats are the Kojima of pets. 3352 02:36:43.840 --> 02:36:47.360 They're just fucking weirdos. He was fucking drinking from the 3353 02:36:47.399 --> 02:36:50.120 dog's water bowl this morning, and I was just curious 3354 02:36:50.120 --> 02:36:52.079 because he reacts everything weird, and I put an ice 3355 02:36:52.120 --> 02:36:55.399 cube in the bowl and it just broke his fucking 3356 02:36:55.799 --> 02:36:58.479 It's just he stopped drinking and he was just looking 3357 02:36:58.479 --> 02:37:00.399 at like what the fuck. He takes like both pause, 3358 02:37:00.520 --> 02:37:04.440 He's like what the fuck is this and like investigating it. 3359 02:37:04.879 --> 02:37:07.600 I love this fucking dude so much. Like Boss is 3360 02:37:08.079 --> 02:37:11.399 great and like it's interesting because, like you know, he's 3361 02:37:11.479 --> 02:37:13.760 not like we have two cavalier dogs and so they're 3362 02:37:13.760 --> 02:37:15.559 always just well gizmos, always like. 3363 02:37:15.520 --> 02:37:16.680 Oh love me, love me, look at me. 3364 02:37:17.000 --> 02:37:20.719 And Boss is just like when he wants it, he 3365 02:37:20.920 --> 02:37:23.600 is like please pet me, like I love this. I'll perr. 3366 02:37:23.600 --> 02:37:25.559 I'm just like I love this. But the second he's 3367 02:37:25.600 --> 02:37:27.559 not into it, it's like a fuck off and he 3368 02:37:27.559 --> 02:37:29.479 will just go stare at a wall for two hours. 3369 02:37:29.639 --> 02:37:31.639 Yeah, I just love how. 3370 02:37:31.520 --> 02:37:32.079 Weird he is. 3371 02:37:32.200 --> 02:37:34.120 They're such strange animals, Like. 3372 02:37:34.200 --> 02:37:36.360 Yes, I love it, I get it. Love bos. 3373 02:37:36.399 --> 02:37:39.799 They've carried over such weird jungle behavior that they haven't forgotten. 3374 02:37:40.000 --> 02:37:43.559 Like dogs and cats are so intelligent in their own ways. 3375 02:37:43.600 --> 02:37:47.399 Like dogs are intelligent in ways that make them so 3376 02:37:50.040 --> 02:37:51.959 it's easy to look at the way a dog acts 3377 02:37:52.000 --> 02:37:54.600 around us, and it's easy for us to project our 3378 02:37:55.079 --> 02:37:57.680 intelligence onto them. She's like, yeah, they get how I live. 3379 02:37:57.719 --> 02:38:00.639 They get like how they they form into our lifestyle, 3380 02:38:00.719 --> 02:38:02.639 and they understand what we're going for and they kind 3381 02:38:02.680 --> 02:38:07.120 of like mold themselves to meet that. Cats are doing 3382 02:38:07.120 --> 02:38:09.200 their own thing and they're so curious in a way 3383 02:38:09.200 --> 02:38:11.680 that it's like they're like, what is this ice cube 3384 02:38:11.719 --> 02:38:13.520 up to? What the fuck is going on here? I 3385 02:38:13.559 --> 02:38:15.159 don't know if I trust this thing. I'm going to 3386 02:38:15.239 --> 02:38:17.840 check it out. I'll report back to the hive in 3387 02:38:17.879 --> 02:38:18.159 a bit. 3388 02:38:19.120 --> 02:38:21.920 Yeah, I feel like dogs can't hide their emotions, like 3389 02:38:22.000 --> 02:38:25.200 Gizmo is NonStop just like oh hey, hey, I want 3390 02:38:25.200 --> 02:38:26.840 some pats and stuff. Oh I want this, I want this, 3391 02:38:27.000 --> 02:38:31.959 and boss, Like they can't express emotions really, like it's 3392 02:38:32.120 --> 02:38:34.760 so so different and having them both in the same 3393 02:38:34.799 --> 02:38:38.799 place is fascinating. 3394 02:38:37.799 --> 02:38:41.479 Very different in my brief experience with cats, I feel 3395 02:38:41.479 --> 02:38:45.280 like dogs are so emotionally intelligent, and if I'm sick 3396 02:38:45.600 --> 02:38:49.159 or if I'm upset, my dog knows even more than 3397 02:38:49.200 --> 02:38:51.600 normal to sit in my lap and just hang out 3398 02:38:51.600 --> 02:38:53.479 with me and give me lots of cuds because he 3399 02:38:53.559 --> 02:38:56.200 knows I'm upset. What the cat I was growing up 3400 02:38:56.200 --> 02:38:58.680 with must have been like either there, that's like a 3401 02:38:58.719 --> 02:39:01.319 normal cat, or mine was like on like the spectrum. 3402 02:39:01.360 --> 02:39:04.639 He like could not process emotion at all, and if 3403 02:39:04.639 --> 02:39:06.200 I wasn't having a good day, he was like, that's 3404 02:39:06.239 --> 02:39:07.440 not my fucking problem. 3405 02:39:07.479 --> 02:39:08.760 And I don't really give a shit. 3406 02:39:09.280 --> 02:39:11.040 Yeah, I've had all the like sinus shit in the 3407 02:39:11.079 --> 02:39:13.399 last year or so, and like you know, I've had 3408 02:39:13.440 --> 02:39:15.879 a couple of procedures and been laid up for a 3409 02:39:15.879 --> 02:39:19.600 few days, and both times it's like Gizmo has been like, oh, hey, 3410 02:39:19.719 --> 02:39:21.159 I'm gonna be with you dad, even though it's not 3411 02:39:21.200 --> 02:39:23.520 our normal time. I'm gonna go under the covers and stuff, 3412 02:39:23.559 --> 02:39:25.959 and he's just curling up under my arm and being 3413 02:39:26.000 --> 02:39:29.600 like extra sweet like dogs like it. It feels like 3414 02:39:29.639 --> 02:39:31.520 bullshit to say it, but like it really does feel 3415 02:39:31.520 --> 02:39:34.559 like they can tell how you're feeling in it just accordingly, 3416 02:39:34.600 --> 02:39:34.799 you know. 3417 02:39:35.479 --> 02:39:38.479 Yeah, I think O mut did. 3418 02:39:40.479 --> 02:39:45.120 Yes, sorry our cat. Yeah. I think cats are more 3419 02:39:45.559 --> 02:39:47.879 Dogs are way more outgoing, and I think they're more 3420 02:39:48.079 --> 02:39:55.159 like eager to earn your appreciation by showing you that 3421 02:39:55.159 --> 02:39:57.440 they understand how you're feeling. I would say our cats 3422 02:39:57.440 --> 02:39:59.520 do that too, and like Amanda sick, Luna like curls 3423 02:39:59.600 --> 02:40:04.799 up on her arm the two I had before we met. 3424 02:40:04.879 --> 02:40:07.319 They also like kind of sleep near me when I'm 3425 02:40:07.319 --> 02:40:11.120 not feeling well. But yeah, there's a difference though. Dogs 3426 02:40:11.159 --> 02:40:14.799 are just so outright, like all I care about today 3427 02:40:14.920 --> 02:40:17.639 is making you feel better. Yes, yeah. Cats are like 3428 02:40:18.799 --> 02:40:20.799 this is all I care about for like ten minutes, 3429 02:40:21.000 --> 02:40:23.040 and then it's like, well, I want to be over 3430 02:40:23.079 --> 02:40:25.600 here now my friends. My friends are doing something. 3431 02:40:25.639 --> 02:40:28.120 I got you I don't care. 3432 02:40:28.360 --> 02:40:31.760 Yeah, it's an interesting difference, but I think they're both 3433 02:40:31.879 --> 02:40:33.719 valuable in their own right. And I also I do 3434 02:40:33.799 --> 02:40:36.200 agree with you, like there's something really nice about watching 3435 02:40:36.200 --> 02:40:38.559 an animal learn it in real time, and cats are 3436 02:40:38.559 --> 02:40:42.680 really passionate about learning and figuring things out and solving crime. 3437 02:40:43.040 --> 02:40:45.639 I don't think that my dog wants to solve anything. 3438 02:40:45.840 --> 02:40:46.879 I don't think they care. 3439 02:40:47.479 --> 02:40:50.159 It's it's so funny saying like like, let's say a 3440 02:40:50.239 --> 02:40:53.159 package is left at the front door. Razor will see it, 3441 02:40:53.239 --> 02:40:57.040 and Short there's freaking out because something's different. And then 3442 02:40:57.120 --> 02:40:59.319 Gizmo from another room will be like, oh, this seems 3443 02:40:59.319 --> 02:41:02.000 like an emergency, and he'll run up and he'll start screaming, 3444 02:41:02.399 --> 02:41:06.000 and Boss will just be sitting there, does not give 3445 02:41:06.120 --> 02:41:09.159 a fuck, will barely be bothered to open his eyes, 3446 02:41:09.399 --> 02:41:10.799 just like these fucking idiots. 3447 02:41:11.360 --> 02:41:15.559 Yeah, the cats. Cats are like, it's cat's world. We're 3448 02:41:15.600 --> 02:41:18.200 all just living in it us and love. Yeah, I 3449 02:41:18.280 --> 02:41:20.159 respect it. I have so much respect for Boss. I 3450 02:41:20.239 --> 02:41:21.239 think we're anyway. 3451 02:41:21.399 --> 02:41:25.319 I think a would probably be like, yeah, exactly, it 3452 02:41:25.360 --> 02:41:26.559 would be interesting. 3453 02:41:27.000 --> 02:41:29.840 Monkey, A flamingo would be real good. 3454 02:41:31.760 --> 02:41:35.719 I think monkey, like what is the chimpanzees that are 3455 02:41:35.760 --> 02:41:37.239 the main like little ones that hop around. 3456 02:41:38.239 --> 02:41:39.959 Chimpanzees are the ones with the long arms. I can 3457 02:41:40.159 --> 02:41:40.799 tear you apart. 3458 02:41:41.360 --> 02:41:43.000 But I mean that's like when you picture like the 3459 02:41:43.040 --> 02:41:44.760 little fun guys that go around and. 3460 02:41:46.360 --> 02:41:48.920 Lankey Kongs a chimpanzee, he's the long I don't want 3461 02:41:48.920 --> 02:41:51.920 to wrong, that's Lanky Kong's not allowed in my house. 3462 02:41:51.920 --> 02:41:53.879 He's a chimpanzee. The ones you're thinking of, I think 3463 02:41:53.879 --> 02:41:56.239 are the diddy kongs, which are more the like spider 3464 02:41:56.280 --> 02:41:58.600 monkeys or just monkeys, oh little dudes. 3465 02:41:58.680 --> 02:42:01.200 Yeah, but but I also I really felt strongly about 3466 02:42:01.200 --> 02:42:03.639 how I needed to own a monkey before I was fifty. 3467 02:42:03.559 --> 02:42:05.200 And a lot of people have had that base. 3468 02:42:05.440 --> 02:42:05.719 Yeah. 3469 02:42:05.760 --> 02:42:07.959 But yeah, I've seen some documentaries and as I've learned 3470 02:42:07.959 --> 02:42:11.639 more about Monty, I've abandoned that dream. I've seen Nope. Yes, 3471 02:42:12.000 --> 02:42:14.360 but I also watch a what project nim was the 3472 02:42:14.360 --> 02:42:15.879 thing about the people in the seventies that tried to 3473 02:42:15.959 --> 02:42:17.920 raise a monkey as a pet and it didn't go well. 3474 02:42:18.040 --> 02:42:20.239 That's what it's based on it or inspired by it. 3475 02:42:21.239 --> 02:42:24.680 In this In this like example, it talks about how 3476 02:42:24.719 --> 02:42:27.319 it's important that it's humane and that the animals treated well. 3477 02:42:27.440 --> 02:42:29.200 Can they also not kill you? Like could it be 3478 02:42:29.280 --> 02:42:29.959 like a black bear? 3479 02:42:30.000 --> 02:42:33.520 Because it would be really fun to have like black 3480 02:42:33.559 --> 02:42:35.479 bears and like we all hang out, but I don't 3481 02:42:35.520 --> 02:42:38.040 want them to rip me to shreds. 3482 02:42:37.680 --> 02:42:41.239 Ah, I know, I don't know. I think alpacas are 3483 02:42:41.280 --> 02:42:44.200 like not dangerous creatures, so like I would say, like 3484 02:42:44.239 --> 02:42:46.479 an Arctic fox, with. I know people who have owned 3485 02:42:46.559 --> 02:42:48.920 Arctic foxes who like look gorgeous, but they have they 3486 02:42:48.959 --> 02:42:51.760 do have to still live like in the backyard under 3487 02:42:51.799 --> 02:42:53.639 the like they need a shelter in the backyard. They 3488 02:42:53.639 --> 02:42:55.040 can't live inside there. I have. 3489 02:42:56.559 --> 02:42:57.440 The key on stuff. 3490 02:42:58.399 --> 02:43:00.600 They're just that I don't mentally, I don't think they 3491 02:43:00.639 --> 02:43:02.000 can be inside. 3492 02:43:01.639 --> 02:43:02.719 Because they'll eat the baby. 3493 02:43:03.959 --> 02:43:06.200 When I worked at the movie theater, there was a 3494 02:43:06.239 --> 02:43:11.159 fucking guy that had in his pocket like a sugar squirrel, 3495 02:43:11.360 --> 02:43:14.600 sugar sugar glider, and so it's. 3496 02:43:14.479 --> 02:43:19.360 Like he throws his enemy basis for him exactly. Yes, yes, 3497 02:43:19.840 --> 02:43:20.479 he would, like. 3498 02:43:20.440 --> 02:43:23.479 He'd be working the concession you see. It's it's a 3499 02:43:23.479 --> 02:43:29.239 man first persons. A man's in it, yeah, right, sugar glider. 3500 02:43:29.280 --> 02:43:31.280 But it's this dude who lost his wife. It's in 3501 02:43:31.399 --> 02:43:34.239 the body. 3502 02:43:33.520 --> 02:43:35.840 Forty hours into the game. It's like he's like, kill me. 3503 02:43:36.159 --> 02:43:38.040 I went to the world and your friend has a 3504 02:43:38.479 --> 02:43:39.760 right like what I saw. 3505 02:43:40.079 --> 02:43:41.760 Yeah, he's like, oh the trauma. 3506 02:43:42.159 --> 02:43:45.680 Anyway, this fucking dude would be working the concession stand 3507 02:43:45.799 --> 02:43:47.600 for like four hours and then he would get his 3508 02:43:47.639 --> 02:43:49.840 fifteen minute shitty break and then you go up there and 3509 02:43:49.879 --> 02:43:52.120 be like, check out my fucking squirrel thing that lives 3510 02:43:52.120 --> 02:43:54.280 in my pocket and we don't be in the break room, Like, 3511 02:43:54.319 --> 02:43:56.040 what the fuck? This guy's been in new pocket the 3512 02:43:56.040 --> 02:43:58.040 whole time, and he would showhim up and he had 3513 02:43:58.040 --> 02:44:02.159 like the crazy flying squirrel arm. And it's weird that 3514 02:44:02.200 --> 02:44:03.799 they could just live in a pocket all time. I 3515 02:44:04.079 --> 02:44:06.760 feel like there has to be some sort of weird Uh, 3516 02:44:06.879 --> 02:44:08.159 this isn't humane. 3517 02:44:09.000 --> 02:44:10.639 That should tell him not to do that. 3518 02:44:10.639 --> 02:44:14.120 That like, wh'm just living in an AMC uniforms pocket 3519 02:44:14.200 --> 02:44:16.559 for many, many hours a day is weird to me. 3520 02:44:16.799 --> 02:44:18.559 But it was still like, Man, that guy seems cool. 3521 02:44:18.559 --> 02:44:21.639 I'm assuming you didn't stay in touch with said man. No, 3522 02:44:21.719 --> 02:44:25.440 not this guy. Yeah, so I wondered, Yeah, I wonder 3523 02:44:25.479 --> 02:44:27.159 what's going on with the shut sugar glider is a 3524 02:44:27.159 --> 02:44:29.920 good answer too. I would like a sugar lighter. I 3525 02:44:29.920 --> 02:44:30.200 want to. 3526 02:44:30.479 --> 02:44:34.239 I worry that it's not. I mean, readers can obviously 3527 02:44:34.239 --> 02:44:35.920 correct me. I feel like most of the time when 3528 02:44:35.959 --> 02:44:39.120 I've seen someone who owns a sugar glider, the sugar 3529 02:44:39.159 --> 02:44:42.760 lighter doesn't seem that stoked because they're nocturnal, and so 3530 02:44:42.840 --> 02:44:46.159 most of the time instinct you're kind of going against 3531 02:44:46.159 --> 02:44:49.920 the animal's instincts having it, but maybe there's like a 3532 02:44:49.959 --> 02:44:52.600 way to do it really humanly where everybody's like stoked 3533 02:44:52.600 --> 02:44:53.120 to be there. 3534 02:44:53.159 --> 02:44:55.760 But like the benefit of an l paca is like. 3535 02:44:56.360 --> 02:45:00.799 It's already very domesticated and wants to chill and like 3536 02:45:01.840 --> 02:45:04.799 casually eat next to you. That seems like a good 3537 02:45:04.879 --> 02:45:07.200 animal that you can bond with and have fun with 3538 02:45:07.200 --> 02:45:09.399 without harming its natural instincts. 3539 02:45:10.079 --> 02:45:11.760 Yeah, I was always skeptical, Like, you know, you'd be 3540 02:45:11.760 --> 02:45:13.920 at a party in college and somebody just brings a 3541 02:45:14.000 --> 02:45:17.159 fucking giant snake and it's like the snake wants to 3542 02:45:17.200 --> 02:45:19.639 be here near all this jungle juice and ship in a. 3543 02:45:19.920 --> 02:45:21.600 Yeah, they have like a parrot, and it's just like, 3544 02:45:21.719 --> 02:45:22.319 is this parrot? 3545 02:45:23.159 --> 02:45:23.520 Okay? 3546 02:45:23.760 --> 02:45:27.520 Yeah, I'll take it over the guy who brings the 3547 02:45:27.559 --> 02:45:30.639 acoustic guitar to the party, but not by much the snakes. 3548 02:45:30.760 --> 02:45:33.000 Like, let's do some shots. 3549 02:45:34.559 --> 02:45:36.559 Okay, Look, I would take a shot with a snake. 3550 02:45:38.319 --> 02:45:43.840 Yeah. I really really really don't like snakes, and I've 3551 02:45:43.959 --> 02:45:45.879 tried my whole life to get over it. I don't 3552 02:45:45.959 --> 02:45:46.319 like them. 3553 02:45:46.799 --> 02:45:48.440 Have you done the thing? What's the deal with cats 3554 02:45:48.440 --> 02:45:50.079 where it's like put a cucumber behind him? 3555 02:45:50.399 --> 02:45:51.200 Yeah, they don't. 3556 02:45:51.040 --> 02:45:55.079 Think it's a snake, and they don't like it. It's 3557 02:45:55.120 --> 02:45:59.520 gonna scare them generally, like it's an instinctual right behind. 3558 02:46:00.680 --> 02:46:03.559 Yeah, you might scare them. 3559 02:46:03.639 --> 02:46:07.639 Yeah, I just don't like snakes. Well, thank you, Dustin. 3560 02:46:08.120 --> 02:46:09.799 Hopefully we answer your question. All right, I'll read the 3561 02:46:09.879 --> 02:46:14.799 last one from Rachel, who's written in before Hello. All, 3562 02:46:15.000 --> 02:46:16.680 I have been on a weight loss journey starting in 3563 02:46:16.680 --> 02:46:20.479 twenty twenty four and have now hit seventy six pounds lost. 3564 02:46:20.600 --> 02:46:22.719 Jesus. 3565 02:46:22.879 --> 02:46:25.360 I've been watching calories, protein and how many servings and 3566 02:46:25.399 --> 02:46:27.600 fruits and vegetables I'm getting. I feel like I'm getting 3567 02:46:27.639 --> 02:46:29.280 to the point where I need to start exercising, but 3568 02:46:29.319 --> 02:46:32.280 I'm not finding the motivation. I work ten hour shifts, 3569 02:46:32.840 --> 02:46:35.920 eight days in a row on night shift, so for example, 3570 02:46:36.120 --> 02:46:39.719 six pm to four am. Maybe a nurse, a nurse 3571 02:46:39.840 --> 02:46:40.040 or a. 3572 02:46:40.000 --> 02:46:43.120 Medica god, so I'm six pm to four am. 3573 02:46:43.200 --> 02:46:46.200 That's I'm assuming if it's like my siblings, like, yeah, 3574 02:46:46.239 --> 02:46:49.200 eight days on, eight days off. Not that that makes 3575 02:46:49.200 --> 02:46:51.639 it easier. I'm just saying maybe a nurse. I don't know. 3576 02:46:52.079 --> 02:46:55.600 My free time between work hours is sleeping, obviously, cooking food, 3577 02:46:55.719 --> 02:46:58.079 spot cleaned the house, to keep it presentable and playing 3578 02:46:58.239 --> 02:47:00.959 maybe an hour of video games. Charle tried all the 3579 02:47:01.040 --> 02:47:04.840 quote unquote hacks. Place out your exercise clothes, schedule your workout, 3580 02:47:04.959 --> 02:47:07.360 set a timer, and if you want to keep doing it. 3581 02:47:07.479 --> 02:47:10.280 So far, nothing has worked because I just talk myself 3582 02:47:10.280 --> 02:47:12.239 out of it. I used to bodybuild my early twenties 3583 02:47:12.280 --> 02:47:14.399 and got so burnt out it harmed my relationship with food. 3584 02:47:14.680 --> 02:47:16.639 So I'm trying to take everything extremely slow and not 3585 02:47:16.680 --> 02:47:19.520 find myself back up in my heaviest weight. Honestly, any 3586 02:47:19.559 --> 02:47:22.639 offbeat advice will be nice. I have a bench, adjustable weights, 3587 02:47:22.799 --> 02:47:26.120 resistance bands, a treadmill, and a sweet dog to walk. 3588 02:47:26.159 --> 02:47:29.040 I'm just lacking the motivation. Please, please, please, any advice 3589 02:47:29.040 --> 02:47:32.079 would be greatly appreciated. That's Rachel from Michigan. I figured 3590 02:47:32.079 --> 02:47:33.799 this would be good for us. We're not health experts, 3591 02:47:33.840 --> 02:47:36.959 but we all like at one point or another, training 3592 02:47:36.959 --> 02:47:44.159 for marathons, weightlifting, trying different workout routines, et cetera. So 3593 02:47:44.239 --> 02:47:46.680 I figured, yeah, it's tough. 3594 02:47:46.760 --> 02:47:49.120 Like with the exercise stuff, I've always found that the 3595 02:47:49.200 --> 02:47:52.840 thing that matters the most is that you're actually enjoying it, 3596 02:47:52.959 --> 02:47:55.159 because like if you're just doing like going through the motions. 3597 02:47:55.239 --> 02:47:56.479 You show up at the gym and just like I 3598 02:47:56.520 --> 02:47:58.120 should probably do this, and I would probably do that, 3599 02:47:58.200 --> 02:47:59.319 Like doesn't really work. 3600 02:47:59.319 --> 02:48:00.440 You need to have an actual plan. 3601 02:48:01.600 --> 02:48:04.239 So last year, the marathon stuff really worked well for 3602 02:48:04.280 --> 02:48:06.399 me because I did two half marathons last year and 3603 02:48:06.440 --> 02:48:09.520 that is is a strict schedule and it's like if 3604 02:48:09.520 --> 02:48:11.399 you don't follow this schedule, you're not going to be 3605 02:48:11.399 --> 02:48:13.840 able to do the thing. And so this year I 3606 02:48:13.920 --> 02:48:16.159 tried to do a full marathon, signed up for it, 3607 02:48:16.319 --> 02:48:18.799 and I was training for it, and you know, in 3608 02:48:18.799 --> 02:48:21.840 the last like week or two, it's just like shit, 3609 02:48:22.040 --> 02:48:23.959 I mean it had been more than two weeks that 3610 02:48:24.000 --> 02:48:26.200 the pain had been happening, but like my shin splints 3611 02:48:26.200 --> 02:48:28.920 and shit were like not good and everything I was seeing, 3612 02:48:28.959 --> 02:48:30.879 like I was seeing physical therapist and they're like give 3613 02:48:30.879 --> 02:48:32.479 it a week or two break or whatever. And then 3614 02:48:32.479 --> 02:48:34.159 it's like you try to go back to it. It's like, well, shit, 3615 02:48:34.200 --> 02:48:36.319 I'm supposed to run fourteen miles on Saturday. 3616 02:48:36.360 --> 02:48:37.520 I can't fucking do that. 3617 02:48:38.040 --> 02:48:41.920 So I had it sucks, I had to stop, and 3618 02:48:41.959 --> 02:48:43.959 so it's like I'm not running the marathon, you know, 3619 02:48:44.040 --> 02:48:47.440 I'm not doing that this year. So I'm pivoting, and 3620 02:48:47.879 --> 02:48:51.200 I think where I'm at now because I'm writing that 3621 02:48:51.280 --> 02:48:53.200 kind of transitional period now where I'm just trying to 3622 02:48:53.239 --> 02:48:56.440 like figure out a different way to do this, and 3623 02:48:56.479 --> 02:48:58.959 I'm trying to work out every morning right now. And 3624 02:49:00.200 --> 02:49:02.440 the thing that works for me is when I wake up, 3625 02:49:03.200 --> 02:49:04.520 all I want to do is go back to bed. 3626 02:49:04.639 --> 02:49:06.760 You know, if the alarm goes off at seven fifteen, 3627 02:49:07.440 --> 02:49:09.520 all I fucking want to do is sleep for another 3628 02:49:09.760 --> 02:49:14.159 fifteen minutes, an hour, whatever it is. But you do 3629 02:49:14.319 --> 02:49:16.440 realize you have to remind yourself that, like you do 3630 02:49:16.559 --> 02:49:19.280 have the power, like there is nothing actually stopping you. 3631 02:49:19.440 --> 02:49:21.719 Well I don't know, schedule whatever, you know, but like 3632 02:49:22.319 --> 02:49:25.799 if nothing schedule wise is stopping you, you just have 3633 02:49:25.920 --> 02:49:27.680 to get up and do the thing. And it might 3634 02:49:28.040 --> 02:49:30.399 suck ass. You don't want to do it. It's the 3635 02:49:30.479 --> 02:49:33.000 last thing you want to do. But if you want 3636 02:49:33.040 --> 02:49:34.479 to do it, you can just stand up and do it. 3637 02:49:34.520 --> 02:49:37.280 And then after a certain amount of time it does 3638 02:49:37.440 --> 02:49:40.200 just become habit. Your body will adjust to it. It's 3639 02:49:40.239 --> 02:49:42.079 like you are going to start waking up at the time, 3640 02:49:42.239 --> 02:49:44.120 whether you want to or not. I gonn have a 3641 02:49:44.360 --> 02:49:46.600 you know, if I'm in that you know, stretch of 3642 02:49:46.639 --> 02:49:48.799 like I'm being good about working out every morning at 3643 02:49:48.840 --> 02:49:51.559 seven fifteen, I could be drinking until three in the 3644 02:49:51.600 --> 02:49:53.959 morning with friends, and then my body's going to wake 3645 02:49:54.000 --> 02:49:56.000 me up at seven fifteen because it's like that's what 3646 02:49:56.000 --> 02:49:59.280 it's used to. So you just have to force yourself 3647 02:49:59.280 --> 02:50:03.360 to at a certain point and then habit does actually 3648 02:50:03.399 --> 02:50:06.200 really work with your brain and body and you'll do it. 3649 02:50:06.239 --> 02:50:08.920 But there's also the eating stuff and everything, so like, yeah, 3650 02:50:08.920 --> 02:50:10.680 it's it's something I'm thinking about a lot because I 3651 02:50:10.760 --> 02:50:12.399 am in between that stuff right now. 3652 02:50:12.440 --> 02:50:17.760 But yeah, yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, like, first off, 3653 02:50:18.200 --> 02:50:20.200 the fact that you lost seventy six pounds is already 3654 02:50:20.200 --> 02:50:23.959 a fucking huge treatment itself, so like you've gotten farther 3655 02:50:24.079 --> 02:50:26.360 than the vast majority of people who set out to 3656 02:50:26.399 --> 02:50:31.319 try to do a fraction of that, So congrats. Yeah, 3657 02:50:31.440 --> 02:50:34.959 I would say, like habit forming is key, but also 3658 02:50:35.760 --> 02:50:37.879 I think in order to assist the habit forming, there 3659 02:50:37.879 --> 02:50:40.520 are several things like anytime I go for a run 3660 02:50:40.639 --> 02:50:42.799 or I go to the gym, I'm always looking forward 3661 02:50:42.840 --> 02:50:46.600 to the music. I make playlists for running, I make 3662 02:50:46.600 --> 02:50:49.079 playlists for the gym, I make playlists for different kind 3663 02:50:49.079 --> 02:50:53.760 of things I'm doing. At a certain point, you stop 3664 02:50:53.879 --> 02:50:55.360 just looking forward to it. It's like you play a 3665 02:50:55.360 --> 02:50:57.239 certain song on the way to the gym, whether you're 3666 02:50:57.319 --> 02:51:00.479 driving or I walk to the gym, whatever you're doing 3667 02:51:00.639 --> 02:51:02.840 or getting like stretching for your run. You hear the 3668 02:51:02.840 --> 02:51:05.280 first song in that playlist and it gets you kind 3669 02:51:05.319 --> 02:51:07.200 of gets your heart rate up and gets you like going, 3670 02:51:07.319 --> 02:51:11.520 like there actually are physiological the studies about the physiological response, 3671 02:51:11.559 --> 02:51:15.520 which is why I stopped. I try not to listen 3672 02:51:15.559 --> 02:51:18.120 to those songs when I'm not working out, because then 3673 02:51:18.159 --> 02:51:21.280 my heart rate actually I could feel it going up. Yeah. 3674 02:51:21.520 --> 02:51:23.360 That just plays into the habit forming aspect of it, 3675 02:51:23.399 --> 02:51:25.239 where it's like, all right, I don't want to go 3676 02:51:25.280 --> 02:51:28.959 to the gym right now, but I'm really enjoying laying 3677 02:51:28.959 --> 02:51:31.559 in bed, or I'm really enjoying I would love to 3678 02:51:31.639 --> 02:51:34.280 just do lunch at home, but I'm going to go 3679 02:51:34.280 --> 02:51:36.319 to the gym because you know, like now I'm just 3680 02:51:36.360 --> 02:51:38.639 going to play the kick this playlist into gear. But 3681 02:51:38.760 --> 02:51:40.440 I would also say that another like I don't know 3682 02:51:40.479 --> 02:51:43.239 if this is a mental hack, and like this worked 3683 02:51:43.239 --> 02:51:46.719 for me. It's like way back in the day I started, 3684 02:51:48.200 --> 02:51:51.079 I would say really really hone in on how good 3685 02:51:51.120 --> 02:51:54.719 you feel after the workout and enjoy that feeling. So 3686 02:51:54.760 --> 02:51:57.360 the next day, it's like you're working toward that. You 3687 02:51:57.440 --> 02:51:59.559 might wake up and it would feel great to stay 3688 02:51:59.559 --> 02:52:02.719 in bed, would feel great to stay at home for lunch, 3689 02:52:02.799 --> 02:52:06.120 when it would feel great to just generally not go 3690 02:52:06.159 --> 02:52:07.719 to the gym or not saying you have to go 3691 02:52:07.719 --> 02:52:09.840 to the gym. That's another hack. It's like you could 3692 02:52:09.879 --> 02:52:14.280 do some really fucking tiring workouts at home. The workouts 3693 02:52:14.280 --> 02:52:15.840 that really exhausts me the most are the ones I 3694 02:52:15.840 --> 02:52:18.360 do at home that are all body weight and like 3695 02:52:18.479 --> 02:52:22.959 course rank kind of stuff. But there's a certain point 3696 02:52:23.000 --> 02:52:24.319 in the week where I like, it's I don't know 3697 02:52:24.360 --> 02:52:26.879 tomorrow morning, Thursday, I'm like, I'm not gonna want to 3698 02:52:26.879 --> 02:52:28.559 go to the gym. But then I'm like, as good 3699 02:52:28.559 --> 02:52:30.159 as it feels laying better right now, I know I'm 3700 02:52:30.159 --> 02:52:32.959 gonna feel like I'm walking on clouds when I'm done. 3701 02:52:33.479 --> 02:52:36.000 So like every time you finish a workout, pay attention 3702 02:52:36.079 --> 02:52:39.360 to like that that dopamine rush, Like it's almost like 3703 02:52:39.399 --> 02:52:41.079 a drug, Like it sounds like if you. 3704 02:52:41.079 --> 02:52:43.840 In the morning, like if you're done with your ships 3705 02:52:43.959 --> 02:52:46.479 of the night, am and it's like I'm good. I'm like, 3706 02:52:46.920 --> 02:52:49.520 it's not Carpelan for the fucking eat pizza rolls all day. 3707 02:52:49.559 --> 02:52:52.399 But it's like you got your workout in. Yeah, your steps, 3708 02:52:52.399 --> 02:52:54.000 you burnt your calories, whatever you gotta do. 3709 02:52:54.799 --> 02:52:56.239 I don't know how helpful it is, but it's just 3710 02:52:56.280 --> 02:52:58.159 like I don't know next time you work out, every 3711 02:52:58.200 --> 02:53:01.159 time you work out, like really just like embrace how 3712 02:53:01.200 --> 02:53:03.600 good you feel afterward. Zero in on that and like 3713 02:53:03.639 --> 02:53:05.479 remember what it feels like and say, like, the only 3714 02:53:05.479 --> 02:53:06.680 way I'm going to feel like that is if I, 3715 02:53:06.879 --> 02:53:08.719 you know, do something and like and that's not to 3716 02:53:08.760 --> 02:53:11.040 say you don't you should have days off like that. 3717 02:53:11.479 --> 02:53:12.879 If you do every day, you're gonna burn out. 3718 02:53:12.879 --> 02:53:14.799 I don't know, or do a yoga like I'm a 3719 02:53:14.840 --> 02:53:17.159 big yoga guy, and like, if you want to just 3720 02:53:17.200 --> 02:53:20.440 do every day, do yoga, like that's a great restorative thing. 3721 02:53:21.120 --> 02:53:23.760 But Mike, to touch on the music thing, like I 3722 02:53:23.799 --> 02:53:26.200 have found that like now that I'm not doing the running, 3723 02:53:26.319 --> 02:53:27.959 I can do you know, I'm doing a lot more 3724 02:53:28.000 --> 02:53:30.680 biking now because it's easier on the joints and everything, 3725 02:53:30.840 --> 02:53:32.000 and I'm trying to do it in the morning, Like 3726 02:53:32.040 --> 02:53:32.520 this morning. 3727 02:53:32.600 --> 02:53:33.040 I rode. 3728 02:53:33.319 --> 02:53:35.680 I did like an eight or nine mile ride this morning. 3729 02:53:36.079 --> 02:53:38.719 And I can pick, like if there's an artist or 3730 02:53:38.719 --> 02:53:41.159 something you're getting interested in, like the last year or so, 3731 02:53:41.239 --> 02:53:43.959 I'm really getting into like Kendrick Lamar. And there are 3732 02:53:43.959 --> 02:53:46.040 certain you know, albums I've not heard or whatever, so 3733 02:53:46.079 --> 02:53:47.680 it's like, all right, not a lot of albums are 3734 02:53:47.719 --> 02:53:48.959 more than like an hour or so I'm gonna go 3735 02:53:49.000 --> 02:53:51.000 on like a bike ride for an hour and listen 3736 02:53:51.040 --> 02:53:54.399 to all of you know, this one album, and uh, 3737 02:53:55.319 --> 02:53:58.239 it really does make the time go faster. And when 3738 02:53:58.239 --> 02:54:00.120 you're done in the morning, it's just like, man, I 3739 02:54:00.120 --> 02:54:02.840 I took in an album. I really enjoyed that I 3740 02:54:03.520 --> 02:54:05.440 And I'm good to go like and work even if 3741 02:54:05.440 --> 02:54:07.959 time gets away from me like it does with anyone, 3742 02:54:08.040 --> 02:54:10.879 especially us working from home. You got your shit in 3743 02:54:10.879 --> 02:54:12.319 in the morning before the day started. 3744 02:54:12.680 --> 02:54:15.840 Plus the music becomes the primary thing, and like learning 3745 02:54:15.840 --> 02:54:17.879 a new or listening to a new album, the workout 3746 02:54:17.920 --> 02:54:23.040 becomes secondary. It almost like yes, brings the the scariness 3747 02:54:23.120 --> 02:54:24.239 of the workout down a bit. 3748 02:54:24.799 --> 02:54:27.639 Yeah, Or like podcasts, it's like, you know, my favorite 3749 02:54:27.639 --> 02:54:30.520 podcast for Monday and Wednesday, so I know, like those 3750 02:54:30.600 --> 02:54:32.200 days if I go on a long ride or something. 3751 02:54:32.280 --> 02:54:33.600 It's like, oh great, I'll get the catch up on 3752 02:54:33.600 --> 02:54:34.280 this PODCA you get. 3753 02:54:34.200 --> 02:54:36.319 To listen to a podcast. It's a nice street for yourself. 3754 02:54:37.719 --> 02:54:43.159 I think for a lazy girl like me, I often 3755 02:54:43.399 --> 02:54:45.760 try and do things that are not workouts that I 3756 02:54:45.840 --> 02:54:48.239 know are good for me and that will give me 3757 02:54:48.280 --> 02:54:51.239 the dopamine rush that I am doing my best, but 3758 02:54:51.360 --> 02:54:54.120 also the comfort of being like listen, I'm also busy, 3759 02:54:54.479 --> 02:54:56.200 especially with all the travel I'm doing right now, I 3760 02:54:56.200 --> 02:54:58.440 do not have the time to work out as much 3761 02:54:58.479 --> 02:55:01.680 as I cannot go to a and so what can 3762 02:55:01.719 --> 02:55:03.719 I do that make me feel like I'm doing my best? 3763 02:55:04.200 --> 02:55:06.760 Things that I like to do are I do have 3764 02:55:07.120 --> 02:55:09.559 a fitbit, and I love just the idea of tracking 3765 02:55:09.600 --> 02:55:12.600 my steps, like go easy on yourself. If you can't 3766 02:55:12.600 --> 02:55:14.040 make it to the gym, then you can't make it 3767 02:55:14.079 --> 02:55:16.760 to the gym. But something that I think you can 3768 02:55:17.200 --> 02:55:20.319 do is hit ten thousand steps. If you go on 3769 02:55:20.399 --> 02:55:23.159 a walk, if you take the stairs, if you do 3770 02:55:23.239 --> 02:55:26.520 things that are just more walking, you can hit ten 3771 02:55:26.559 --> 02:55:27.159 thousand steps. 3772 02:55:27.159 --> 02:55:28.079 And that is active. 3773 02:55:28.159 --> 02:55:30.559 That is like walking a theme park for the day, 3774 02:55:30.879 --> 02:55:32.600 and so that is like a great way to stay 3775 02:55:32.920 --> 02:55:36.319 to stay active and on your feet without being like, yeah, 3776 02:55:36.319 --> 02:55:37.799 I have to go to the gym and like lift weights. 3777 02:55:37.799 --> 02:55:42.360 You don't have to do that. Gopher walks, do your 3778 02:55:42.399 --> 02:55:43.000 best to. 3779 02:55:44.920 --> 02:55:47.959 Walk when you feel like you could have driven, or 3780 02:55:48.000 --> 02:55:51.559 again like take the stairs, do things that just make 3781 02:55:51.600 --> 02:55:54.600 you move your body. There has been times with my 3782 02:55:54.719 --> 02:55:57.719 fitbit where I've been close, you know, like nine hundred 3783 02:55:57.760 --> 02:55:59.879 and fifty steps and I literally like, as I'm. 3784 02:55:59.799 --> 02:56:02.159 Going to bed, I'm doing extra steps. 3785 02:56:02.360 --> 02:56:05.680 Yeah, around the bedroom, like doing like circles dropping down 3786 02:56:05.719 --> 02:56:07.879 the stairs. I've definitely done that. 3787 02:56:07.959 --> 02:56:10.200 Because when you hit ten thousand on a fit fit, 3788 02:56:10.360 --> 02:56:13.040 it gives you fireworks and it buzzes and it's like 3789 02:56:13.079 --> 02:56:19.559 you did so great down to Getting that is like 3790 02:56:19.600 --> 02:56:22.440 a great dopamine rush for me. And it also just 3791 02:56:22.520 --> 02:56:26.799 reminds me that I'm trying and that I'm doing my 3792 02:56:26.879 --> 02:56:30.040 best and I'm being thoughtful about it, right, Like there 3793 02:56:30.120 --> 02:56:32.319 is like this effort. There's sometimes like in the back 3794 02:56:32.360 --> 02:56:34.239 of my head, it's like if you're not breaking a 3795 02:56:34.280 --> 02:56:37.319 sweat and lifting weights, like you're like wasting your life, 3796 02:56:37.360 --> 02:56:43.000 And it's like give yourself patience and kindness. You've obviously 3797 02:56:43.040 --> 02:56:44.920 come a really long way. You've put a lot of 3798 02:56:44.959 --> 02:56:48.000 work in and you deserve to feel good about yourself. 3799 02:56:48.079 --> 02:56:50.760 So like, don't ever punish yourself and be like you suck, 3800 02:56:50.840 --> 02:56:52.600 like you should be going to the gym. You don't 3801 02:56:52.639 --> 02:56:54.440 need to do that to yourself ever, and you don't 3802 02:56:54.440 --> 02:56:56.799 deserve to do that to yourself for how hard you've worked. 3803 02:56:57.159 --> 02:57:00.559 Give yourself lots of grace and credit and use walking 3804 02:57:00.840 --> 02:57:05.920 as an excellent way to stay fluid and mobile and 3805 02:57:06.280 --> 02:57:07.479 give yourself lots of grace. 3806 02:57:07.840 --> 02:57:09.680 And if you work from home, there's so many different 3807 02:57:09.680 --> 02:57:12.600 ways to do it. Where it's like January this year, 3808 02:57:12.879 --> 02:57:15.120 I got the most steps I've ever gotten any month 3809 02:57:15.319 --> 02:57:18.159 because I got an underdsk treadmill. 3810 02:57:18.399 --> 02:57:19.360 And it's just like. 3811 02:57:19.440 --> 02:57:21.200 There's so many like there's parts of my day where 3812 02:57:21.239 --> 02:57:24.120 I'm like on camera on microphone talking and I'm not 3813 02:57:24.120 --> 02:57:26.319 going to be walking during all that, but everything in 3814 02:57:26.360 --> 02:57:29.079 between where I'm just answering emails and shit like that, 3815 02:57:29.200 --> 02:57:31.319 you know, it's like just be walking, just getting tho 3816 02:57:31.319 --> 02:57:31.840 steps in. 3817 02:57:32.079 --> 02:57:32.879 You can be walking. 3818 02:57:34.159 --> 02:57:36.479 My other one that I actually did find that helped 3819 02:57:36.479 --> 02:57:38.440 me over the winner because it's really hard to get 3820 02:57:38.440 --> 02:57:40.000 me out of the house in the winter. It's rains, 3821 02:57:40.000 --> 02:57:41.879 a lot in Portland, and like driving to the gym 3822 02:57:42.000 --> 02:57:45.600 is not my cup of tea. In the Rain, I 3823 02:57:45.680 --> 02:57:49.120 got a TV in my area where I have like 3824 02:57:49.120 --> 02:57:53.159 my little weights, and I put on a YouTube video. 3825 02:57:53.159 --> 02:57:58.200 There's so many free YouTube people that will. 3826 02:57:58.000 --> 02:57:59.239 Do a course with you. 3827 02:57:59.319 --> 02:58:01.200 That way, they're telling you what to do, and that 3828 02:58:01.239 --> 02:58:03.559 makes me feel a little better than just lifting my 3829 02:58:03.600 --> 02:58:06.079 little silly weights and obviously putting them down when I 3830 02:58:06.079 --> 02:58:10.920 get tired. I like, I like a lady named Caroline Gervin. 3831 02:58:11.600 --> 02:58:14.360 You can check her out. Some of her later stuff 3832 02:58:14.399 --> 02:58:17.040 is way too hard. She's like incredibly strong. She looks 3833 02:58:17.079 --> 02:58:19.440 like a she's built like a brick shit house. But 3834 02:58:19.520 --> 02:58:23.840 like check out stuff where it's like twenty minute no repeat, 3835 02:58:24.319 --> 02:58:27.079 like or don't even do Carolyn Gervin, Like just google 3836 02:58:27.159 --> 02:58:30.520 on YouTube twenty minute no repeat, which means for twenty minutes, 3837 02:58:30.920 --> 02:58:33.440 someone's gonna do exercises and they're never gonna repeat the 3838 02:58:33.479 --> 02:58:37.079 same exercise. God send, Like you won't have to like 3839 02:58:37.559 --> 02:58:41.239 do the same goddamn squats for ten minutes. For sixty seconds, 3840 02:58:41.239 --> 02:58:43.120 you'll do an exercise and if you didn't like it, 3841 02:58:43.200 --> 02:58:45.680 you never have to do that fucking exercise again. And 3842 02:58:45.760 --> 02:58:48.440 I think that's really good for my brain, especially like 3843 02:58:48.479 --> 02:58:50.280 on days when I don't want to work out. It's like, well, 3844 02:58:50.280 --> 02:58:51.879 if I didn't like that, we're moving on to the 3845 02:58:51.920 --> 02:58:52.319 next one. 3846 02:58:52.319 --> 02:58:52.760 Anyway. 3847 02:58:52.840 --> 02:58:54.799 Anyway, those are all my tips from a lazy girl 3848 02:58:54.799 --> 02:58:57.200 who has to work out but doesn't want to take one. 3849 02:58:57.280 --> 02:59:00.959 Do yoga. I fucking love yoga. And if you just 3850 02:59:00.959 --> 02:59:03.920 want to do the free thing, yoga with Adrian on 3851 02:59:04.520 --> 02:59:06.959 she's like the big If you just search yoga on YouTube, 3852 02:59:07.040 --> 02:59:09.399 you're gonna see yoga with Adrian and her dog Benji 3853 02:59:09.440 --> 02:59:11.520 and everything. She does a good job for like very 3854 02:59:11.680 --> 02:59:14.680 entry level stuff. Oh I'll just change my name to Adrian. Okay, great, 3855 02:59:16.079 --> 02:59:21.280 changed Adrian. She she's good entry level yoga stuff. And 3856 02:59:21.959 --> 02:59:24.879 the thing I do now is with Peloton. I'm a 3857 02:59:24.920 --> 02:59:29.840 big Peloton guy, and Adidi Shaw she's the best with yoga. 3858 02:59:30.079 --> 02:59:33.280 I do that several times a week. I've been doing 3859 02:59:33.360 --> 02:59:37.799 yoga for fifteen years and that is probably my favorite 3860 02:59:38.040 --> 02:59:41.959 exercise thing I've ever done. And give it a shot. 3861 02:59:42.040 --> 02:59:45.440 A lot of people don't. They write off yoga as 3862 02:59:45.440 --> 02:59:46.239 like bullshit thing. 3863 02:59:46.879 --> 02:59:47.239 It's not. 3864 02:59:48.159 --> 02:59:51.879 I'm doing yoga regularly. Oh my fucking before, I'm always 3865 02:59:51.920 --> 02:59:55.399 sitting between playing video games and being on zoom calls 3866 02:59:55.440 --> 02:59:57.479 and shit like that. It's a lot of fucking sitting 3867 02:59:57.559 --> 03:00:00.399 here and yoga, doing your cat cow bos. You're doing 3868 03:00:00.399 --> 03:00:02.200 your downward dogs and all that shit like. Do that 3869 03:00:02.239 --> 03:00:04.799 a few times a week, you're gonna feel a lot better, 3870 03:00:04.920 --> 03:00:05.319 for sure. 3871 03:00:05.799 --> 03:00:07.079 I agree that's good advice. 3872 03:00:08.239 --> 03:00:11.879 Well, thank you, Rachel, and again congrats on the weight loss. 3873 03:00:11.920 --> 03:00:14.959 Sounds like the I don't know, it's already been going well, 3874 03:00:15.079 --> 03:00:16.520 so anything from here. 3875 03:00:16.520 --> 03:00:18.920 Is just yeah, if you lost seventy six pounds, you 3876 03:00:19.639 --> 03:00:20.520 got something figured out. 3877 03:00:20.719 --> 03:00:24.840 Also, she got a kitten around this time last year 3878 03:00:24.879 --> 03:00:28.479 who's trying to be friends with her dog, Dwayne. She's 3879 03:00:28.479 --> 03:00:32.239 talking about the cat now, Oh yeah, kittens like a 3880 03:00:32.239 --> 03:00:36.040 fluffy Tuxio looks cute, and then Duane's like a pit 3881 03:00:36.200 --> 03:00:39.959 bull boxer mix of some sort, very cute. It's funny. 3882 03:00:39.959 --> 03:00:41.600 I think a lot of times people getting dogs, you'd 3883 03:00:41.600 --> 03:00:44.000 be worried about the dog attack on the cat. I've 3884 03:00:44.040 --> 03:00:46.399 got the two cavaliers and the one cat, and it's like, oh, 3885 03:00:46.440 --> 03:00:48.559 this cat would fuck Razor. 3886 03:00:48.959 --> 03:00:51.200 Yeah, I'm way more worried about those dogs. 3887 03:00:51.200 --> 03:00:55.559 Eyeballs like one swipe and those bad boys are blind. 3888 03:00:55.760 --> 03:00:57.360 Fuck them up, dude. 3889 03:00:57.319 --> 03:01:00.559 Dude, the fucking photos of your dogs were tree stuff 3890 03:01:00.559 --> 03:01:04.120 in the water and their eyeballs are like tennis balls 3891 03:01:04.159 --> 03:01:07.040 that have just been pasted to heads. 3892 03:01:07.280 --> 03:01:09.159 He's just a maniac. 3893 03:01:09.280 --> 03:01:13.520 He's no defense mechanism to those dogs, like they would 3894 03:01:13.559 --> 03:01:15.159 absolutely be killed. 3895 03:01:15.479 --> 03:01:20.719 Yes, thank you Rachel, thank you Dustin, and thank you Alice. 3896 03:01:21.440 --> 03:01:23.920 That concludes our show as usual. 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Yeah, go to 3909 03:01:56.239 --> 03:02:01.159 deep dishpussy dot com. That's our pat Vinnie and I 3910 03:02:01.479 --> 03:02:05.040 from Vinie Caravelli from Next Lander and I have been 3911 03:02:05.079 --> 03:02:08.680 doing a couple total Ward Warhammer three co op campaigns, 3912 03:02:09.399 --> 03:02:12.200 both of which have been very entertaining for different reasons. 3913 03:02:12.600 --> 03:02:14.440 There was one over on next Lander. If you're not 3914 03:02:14.479 --> 03:02:17.520 already a patron for their ten dollars tier, which is 3915 03:02:17.600 --> 03:02:19.959 a lot of their bonus videos and whatnot, Vinnie and 3916 03:02:19.959 --> 03:02:23.840 I are playing evil factions. We're going We're like rampaging 3917 03:02:23.879 --> 03:02:29.200 across Leustria. I'm playing vampire zombie pirates. He's playing Demonic 3918 03:02:30.799 --> 03:02:35.959 Fiery Horde kind of faction. That's fun. And then if 3919 03:02:36.000 --> 03:02:39.440 you're a video patron here, then you have been seeing 3920 03:02:39.440 --> 03:02:41.600 that every other week on our off weeks. From the episodes, 3921 03:02:41.639 --> 03:02:43.680 we've been putting up the campaign where me and Vinie 3922 03:02:43.719 --> 03:02:47.200 are trying to save the world. I'm playing as a lizard, men, chameleons, dinosaurs. 3923 03:02:47.239 --> 03:02:51.959 He's playing as Imrik, the High Elf Priest with dragon fetish, 3924 03:02:52.079 --> 03:02:54.200 so we've been trying to that. One is a bit 3925 03:02:54.200 --> 03:02:58.399 more dramatic, where I think finally going to start turning 3926 03:02:58.440 --> 03:03:02.159 the tides against a bunch of uh Chaos dwarfs and 3927 03:03:02.319 --> 03:03:05.040 uh Nerdlings and uh, you know all that stuff that 3928 03:03:05.040 --> 03:03:08.559 I don't need to explain, you guys, all know urglings. 3929 03:03:08.879 --> 03:03:12.319 Oh god, Dan, nerdlings is funnier. 3930 03:03:13.520 --> 03:03:15.799 Yeah, they could be called nerdlings. That would still make sense. 3931 03:03:16.399 --> 03:03:21.159 What's a nerd Nergile is one of the four chaos 3932 03:03:21.319 --> 03:03:26.520 gods in charge of pestilence and disease and spreading stuff 3933 03:03:26.559 --> 03:03:26.920 like that. 3934 03:03:28.959 --> 03:03:33.079 Yeah, Oh he doesn't, sobart On a coffin, so he's 3935 03:03:33.120 --> 03:03:41.319 not cool. Oh Tony Tony Hawk's not signed on, so 3936 03:03:41.360 --> 03:03:42.360 it's not cool. 3937 03:03:42.719 --> 03:03:44.559 You're just saying about cool sounding sub to me. 3938 03:03:44.719 --> 03:03:48.159 Oh, Total Warhamm was not published by Devolvood Digital, so 3939 03:03:48.239 --> 03:03:49.239 it's not cool. 3940 03:03:50.719 --> 03:03:53.440 That was married not as big of a he was 3941 03:03:53.879 --> 03:03:54.680 for me on that one. 3942 03:03:54.719 --> 03:03:59.159 I'm firing both. So if you are not part of 3943 03:03:59.200 --> 03:03:59.840 our video. 3944 03:03:59.719 --> 03:04:02.360 Tam was like that shot wasn't for me. I don't 3945 03:04:02.399 --> 03:04:06.639 understand it. Of all of us, Dan is like the 3946 03:04:06.760 --> 03:04:09.000 cat of this group who's just like but I don't 3947 03:04:09.079 --> 03:04:11.239 understand how that pertains to me. 3948 03:04:11.440 --> 03:04:13.120 No, I take offense to that. I'm the cat. 3949 03:04:13.680 --> 03:04:16.120 Uh, you're the biggest dickhead. 3950 03:04:16.200 --> 03:04:18.000 Yeah, oh yeah, that's fine. 3951 03:04:18.399 --> 03:04:20.680 I'm the dog for sure. I'm like I played two 3952 03:04:20.680 --> 03:04:24.840 point hospital. It was great. Thanks for letting me speak. 3953 03:04:26.600 --> 03:04:29.680 I love I'm in a pineapple room. 3954 03:04:31.120 --> 03:04:33.920 I got all these colors, all right, dogs are color blind? 3955 03:04:34.559 --> 03:04:39.799 Oh yeah, s o cats. But if you're not a 3956 03:04:39.840 --> 03:04:43.399 member of our Patreon yet, you can go sign up 3957 03:04:43.399 --> 03:04:46.079 now at Deep Dishpussy dot com. You can treat it 3958 03:04:46.079 --> 03:04:47.680 like a tip jar if you just appreciate what we do. 3959 03:04:47.760 --> 03:04:50.559 You can get ad free audio episodes, or you can 3960 03:04:50.600 --> 03:04:54.319 get the video tier where you get video versions of 3961 03:04:54.319 --> 03:04:56.719 every episode and you also get access to our bonus 3962 03:04:56.760 --> 03:05:02.399 videos and the said Warhammer show with Viney. Uh yeah, Dan, 3963 03:05:02.440 --> 03:05:03.879 what do you have going on? In the meantime? 3964 03:05:04.760 --> 03:05:08.280 Giant bomb dot Com doing a bunch of fun stuff there. 3965 03:05:08.280 --> 03:05:10.479 We just started the new season of Blake Club where 3966 03:05:10.520 --> 03:05:14.399 I am playing Pimp my Ride for the PlayStation two. 3967 03:05:14.719 --> 03:05:15.159 Great game. 3968 03:05:15.239 --> 03:05:16.799 I think I think I'm doing a great job. I 3969 03:05:16.840 --> 03:05:19.000 think I'm doing it. We started it today as of 3970 03:05:19.040 --> 03:05:20.959 this recording, I think I'm doing a great job. So 3971 03:05:21.120 --> 03:05:23.719 giant bomb dot Com is the main thing that I'm 3972 03:05:24.040 --> 03:05:27.360 Dan record on Twitch and Blue Sky and all that stuff. 3973 03:05:27.760 --> 03:05:32.079 Mary, what about you streaming on Twitch every Monday? I 3974 03:05:32.120 --> 03:05:34.559 streamed a lot of the games I talked about, including 3975 03:05:35.479 --> 03:05:42.399 two point Museum and was it called get packing Big. 3976 03:05:42.319 --> 03:05:47.200 Big Big Quickly Card Quickly Blockbuster, Beck Harder, Try and 3977 03:05:48.159 --> 03:05:53.920 card du Check Give Get for your Pack, Hard Pack 3978 03:05:53.959 --> 03:05:56.000 Hard with a Vengeance. 3979 03:05:56.879 --> 03:06:00.319 Anyway, I usually play games on their first just to 3980 03:06:00.399 --> 03:06:03.159 try them out, so it's kind of fun to get 3981 03:06:03.200 --> 03:06:08.479 first impressions, their final impressions aka the review the fuse 3982 03:06:08.879 --> 03:06:10.399 on fire Escape. 3983 03:06:11.159 --> 03:06:13.200 Well, thank you too as always, and thank you everybody 3984 03:06:13.239 --> 03:06:14.799 for joining us. We will be back in a couple 3985 03:06:14.840 --> 03:06:16.239 of weeks, and in the off week we'll have a 3986 03:06:16.239 --> 03:06:19.399 new Warhammer episode. Until both of those, we will see 3987 03:06:19.440 --> 03:06:19.959 you next time. 3988 03:06:20.879 --> 03:06:40.559 Bye bye,