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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It

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is episode one eleven. We are deep into that good, good,

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hot hot summer. I'm Mike Mahardy, your host here as always,

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with Mary kish Hi and Dan Riker. Yes, hello, you

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see how I flipped it. Usually Mary's the disappointing sounding

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one one night and.

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Speaker 2: Chetos way up. I've been eating orange tic tags.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your tongue is fucking like like bile colored.

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Speaker 2: I love orange tik tags.

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Speaker 3: I can eat them every day and I do, and

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they do change the color of.

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Speaker 4: My tongue universally. The favorite right the oranges.

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Speaker 1: That's the same exact flavoring as orange skittles. Wait, oh,

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you've said that. I've said it before. Taste test them

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next to.

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Speaker 4: When it's different.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the outer suck on them, suck on each one successively.

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They're the same flavor skittle.

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Speaker 4: No, I think what you bite. I think that illusion

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is shattered.

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Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, But I'm just saying whatever flavor, just.

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Speaker 4: Sucking on skittles. I fucking two those things me too.

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Speaker 1: That's the point of them. They're a good texture. It's

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a nice kind of like a light crunch and then

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a chewy center.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's a good way to attack someone

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is be like, go suck a skittle.

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm getting back in the Jolly Rancher game.

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Speaker 2: Nice whom you don't bite them, do you?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: So that's what's great about it is because you give

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me a barrel of skittles, I'm just gonna fucking stick

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my head in it until there's no more skittles. A

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Jolly rancher, you don't have that option. You put one

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in there, you're good for like ten minutes, and then

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you've like you satisfied that sweet tooth.

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Speaker 2: So like that's the way, like candy brick, Yeah, maybe like.

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Speaker 4: Twenty calories there instead of two hundred and fifty of

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a whole skittles gimmick.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm impatient with hard candy and lollipops, took

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totsy rolls, blow pops. I I can rarely just suck

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on one until it's a nub. I have to crunch

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at some point.

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Speaker 4: Do you ever get the grody one on at like

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vending machines or or the little gumball machines at like

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the bowling alley, And there's those big ass gob stoppers

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that were like you know, like yay, big, like a racquetball,

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and then it's just like, I don't know, you can't

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fit it in your mouth.

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Speaker 1: There's no blue red, the primary color. Flex.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be like white, but it would have the

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flex yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's like, so what do you do?

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Speaker 4: You just fucking lick this thing for a while and

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put it in your pocket and you got fucking popcorn

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kernels and receipts all over it. When you pull it.

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Speaker 1: Out, you suck on it like a tennis ball. Well

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you can't.

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Speaker 4: I used to try to put it in my whole

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the whole thing in my mouth, and the Keiths blocket.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be like a leech on certain parts because

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you go through. What do you do? You're not gonna

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know one thing.

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Speaker 4: You put it in your carry on, a ziplock bag

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for it, What do you do?

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Speaker 1: I used to carr around ziploc bags for them, really,

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or we would get like two of them at Wegman's

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and put them in one plastic bag and then start

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one and store it in the plastic bag. Ti I

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was ready to get sucking again. Or I don't know

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what I would do with the other one, though, I

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think my we must have had backup ziploc bags.

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Speaker 4: Did we touch on these in our candy tier list?

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Speaker 1: We had no dune jelly, right, yeah, we definitely did

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Jolly Ranchers. What did we give.

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Speaker 4: Spot a Skittles star Burst and the strawberry guys that

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your grandma has?

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Speaker 1: Oh those are I'm we were really.

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Speaker 4: Aligned on our candy opinions, I found. I think we

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have very similar tastes in candies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sours.

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Speaker 3: Candies with a shell with like a chewy center, things

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like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the good good.

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Speaker 3: I've always been like such a sour head though, Like

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I usually anytime I am able to purchase whatever candy

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I want from a supermarket, I am going to probably

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get like those sour strips, the sour rainbows, coke bottles, yeah, gummies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Have you been to Japan? Oh yeah, yeah, Well you

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know that they have the they have all the like

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soda ones where it's like the roopier stuff with all

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the specs on it and everything. Like, I think as

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far as the sour candy game, Japan is like out

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of us.

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Speaker 3: I think that they're they put all of their technological

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advancements into toilet and candy and.

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Speaker 4: Cars but when we've been working TV games and we've

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been worried about.

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Speaker 1: Drones and tanks, and they're just like, wait, what if

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what if we developed like a really nice chewy sour candy.

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I like that approach Japan. That'd be great. I'd love

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to It's a good place, or a kimono with nothing

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under it. All the time.

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Speaker 3: Idiots putting in like putting together nukes, and it's like

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the real secret was the invention of the gummy bear.

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Speaker 1: I think that's German. Horribo German. I don't like. I'm

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kind of bears.

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Speaker 2: You're assuming Harrabou is the original.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're the standard popular. They're like the Kleenex of

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gummy bears.

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Speaker 1: Are you suggesting there's an og Japanese gummy bear that

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Harbo upstaged.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying they're the most innovative.

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Speaker 4: Who invented gummy bears? Okay, let's see.

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Speaker 1: Well if.

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Speaker 4: The founder of Harribo.

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Speaker 1: Oh Hans Regal.

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Speaker 4: Regal Senior in nineteen twenty two, was inspired by dancing

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bears that perform at festivals and wanted to create a fun,

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chewy candy and their likeness, Wow, they don't I don't

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like them, though I don't.

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Speaker 2: Like going so he shot a horse, made it happen.

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Speaker 1: We've we've talked about this before. It was a defining

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moment in my life. Amanda likes all things horribo. That

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I discovered, or rather realized, came to the realization that

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the green gummy bears are strawberry flavored. I always assume that,

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like in my head because I thought, because they're green,

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I assigned some sort of like lime tonight, Yeah, of course,

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but now they're strawberry. Really, I don't know. I don't

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know how that happens. Like the strawberry leaf is green.

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That's about it, though, because the red was already red.

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Speaker 2: Is cherry cherry.

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Speaker 3: By process of elimination. If it can't dot.

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Speaker 4: Bink, you do red and bink. Star Wars, Star Wars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Runs. I like runs a lot. I'm like, wait,

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are runts the ones of the fruit there shaped like

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the fruit? Yeah? Yeah? What were the ones? Tiny tarts

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were the little member there's sweetart. There are sweet tarts

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but tiny yeah? Yeah. I look.

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Speaker 4: The Harry Bow Corporation seems great outside of their core

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product of gummy bears. I like the Twin Snakes. I

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like the sour guys. I like the like most everything

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Hawerbow makes outside of the gummy bears, and like, don't

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get me wrong, give me back of gummy bears.

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Speaker 1: I'm inhaling that ship.

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Speaker 4: But it's like there's so many candies I would take

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over that, including from Harry Bow. Did you have a

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paper dots phase? No, those are ship You always end

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up eating a lot of paper. Yeah, I don't want

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to eat paper.

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Speaker 1: I pooped like a sultan anytime I ate those. I

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think papers so much.

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Speaker 3: Spots are good because you're playing with them, and playing

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with your candy is important. Just like those plastic bottles

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that you would rip off the cap with your mouth

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and then some out the juice and then you would

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chew on the rest of the bottle.

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Speaker 1: Those are cross because it's a wax and stuff. I

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like just bottle caps. The Yeah, that's gross.

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Speaker 3: The Internet, my dude, Like making a cube out of

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candy wax was a big deal.

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Speaker 4: No, give me the candy legos and then they break youth.

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But like you can actually build with those things.

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Speaker 1: And build stuff. I mean I built a penis and

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then fucking went at it all the time. Should have

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my parents should have been noticing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, dinner table, stop making those dick legos, our child,

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there's weirdos are hard with these.

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Speaker 4: And then he doesn't have to play with the candy

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lego balls, does he? At the table?

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Speaker 1: It was a very confusing time my life.

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Speaker 3: He's gargling them.

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Speaker 4: Little Mikey's at it the end.

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Speaker 2: Take them away?

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Speaker 1: What are those? You can get them at? Uh? I

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always see them at movie theater vending machines. They're so

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of like Runts, but they're smaller. There's like there's a peach,

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there's like a little blue raspberry cluster.

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Speaker 4: They're basically runs nerds nerds clusters.

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Speaker 1: No, Nerds clusters are awesome, but no, they were like

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a gen two of Runts where it's like a peach

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and a blue raspberry cluster. They might they might have

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been Runts that they added and they shrunk a bit

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and then added the peach too, because the peach is

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the best flavor and it's also the best fruit. I mean, like,

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look it up. Look up Runts peach or Runts blue raspberry.

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And I've seen them specifically. You get a bunch of them.

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I ate a lot of them when I worked at

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a movie theater. Oh what are these?

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Speaker 2: F I googled peach runts and it was a weed shop.

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Speaker 1: That sounds right? Are they fruit teas? Maybe they're really good?

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They're runts, but like flavor. Hmm.

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Speaker 4: Okay, time I.

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Speaker 3: Get something, it's asking me if I'm over eighteen before

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I can click.

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Speaker 2: It's just like all weeds.

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Speaker 1: So yes, what is the we have candy? Now? Me too?

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H Speaking of movies, I have you guys watched The Warriors? Ever? Yeah?

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Well you watched it recently?

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Speaker 4: No, it's been a decade plus. Yeah, I've been thinking

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about watching.

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Speaker 1: We Re a Man and I both share a love

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for that movie, which is funny because she it was.

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It was a movie I had brought up. She goes

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to bed before me most nights, so I think about

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a year and a half ago, she's like, all right,

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I'm gonna go to bed. It's like a Thursday night. Like, okay, cool,

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I'm gonna watch The Warriors. She's like, what is that?

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I was like a movie set in seventy nine New

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York gangs like theme gangs, but also very vibey. It's

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more about vibes than like a great storyline. It's like

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a retelling of the Iliad. But it's just like people

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getting from the Bronx to Coney Island cult classic rockstar

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me to She's like, this sounds cool. I was like, okay,

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I'm curious what you think of it. So she's like,

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wait until tomorrow, we'll watch it. And we watched it,

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and I will se if you have not seen that movie,

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or if you have now watched in a while, front

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loaded homophobia is the best way to put it. Oh really,

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but it's it's a couple of f bombs.

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Speaker 2: Ted around the time of the era.

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Speaker 1: Gangs in New York. Like, sure, I guess whether you

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can stomach it. There's a lot of things playing into it,

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but it's like seventy nine. And also the guy who

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drops them James Remar, the actor, he was the Phantom.

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He's in Sex and the City, but he was Ajax

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in this movie. Again, it's all like, it's actually just

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inspired by Greek. It's a retelling of Greek story, so

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it's like Ajax and the Sirens and the Furies. But

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after that, there are a couple spots where it also

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gets very seventy nine Men's gang a bit weird with women.

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if you'll love this movie. We could try it out,

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and then Amanda loved it. Like not that it's without

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its problems, but that movie's soundtrack, the style of everything

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made no they've not tried to hide that it was

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inspired by like old school Greek theater, but they wanted

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to do like a modern take on it. Neon Lit.

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the soundtrack that like when they finally get back to

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Cony and they're walking into the sunset on the beach,

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it's in the city. That's Joe Walsh who wrote it.

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Speaker 4: Then I like Big Hilts by Joe Walsh. You know

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that's also in there.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's hidden there somewhere. Yeah, but that

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movie is still awesome classic, It's still really good. I

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never played the U the rock Star game. I know

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that was more of a beat him up.

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Speaker 4: I reviewed it, it was I remember liking it. I

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think I probably gave you like an eight. It's just

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such a cool thing to exist, because that's what a

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rock Star thing that is to you know, it's like, oh,

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we like this movie, let's make it like, well, we're

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playing a lot of ping pong, let's make a ping

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pong game. Well, we all like the Warriors, Let's make that.

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Like I don't know, I appreciate that I kind of

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missed that rock Star to be honest, as excited as

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I am for what they're doing now.

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Speaker 3: But like the old cash Ground, but I mean I

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think it's like cash grab with heart, which.

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Speaker 1: Is just not even a cash grab. I don't think

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that many people liked The Warriors back when they made

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that game. It's like it's like a passion project that

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I don't think was gonna make a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: It was a weird thing when they announced it and

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they're like, what are you like, No, a lot of

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people hadn't really heard of it. It wasn't like they

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were doing like, oh, a Terminator game. It's like this

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kind of cult classic seventies. Yeah, it's it was a

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weird move in a cool way.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I overestimated how popular The Warriors was then

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because I thought, like everybody knows The Warriors for some reason,

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and it seems like it's a popular It.

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Speaker 4: Has a couple of very iconic has the come out

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and Play and has the can you dig it? And

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it's like there's some very quotable moments and everyone remembers

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the like baseball guy gang and stuff like that. It's

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just it's a weird and memorable movie. But I feel

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like it's not one that it's definitely not like cult classic,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that they fucking like the The intro is

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just like bum boom, bump boom, and then it's them

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all like it shows every gang from around the city

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going up for the summit in the Bronx, and it's

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showing the themes of all the gangs, and some of

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them are were military gears. Some of them are like monks.

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Some of them are clear.

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Speaker 3: You're the Monk gang. You better watch the fuck out

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because you're about to get monked.

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Speaker 1: Some of them are clearly stereotypical Chinese people from Chinatown

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coming up. And I was like, oh, okay, And then

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and then I.

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Speaker 3: Think it's going to have a content warning, Like it

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should have a content warning, like did you hear about

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what's going on with rush hour?

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Speaker 1: It was a rush hour? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Is it like a a content warning now when you

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start the film, because.

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Speaker 1: We need a content warning for fire Escape every episode.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: Pictions, language and humor may seem outdated, but we are old.

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Speaker 4: I mean I haven't seen Rush Hour since the theaters and

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that would not surprise me to all of it is

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not aged gracefully.

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Speaker 1: No, it's just Chris Chris Tucker making fun of trying

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Jackie Chan and and by extension, all Asian, not just Chinese.

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Speaker 4: Peep.

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Speaker 1: Sure, because he intentionally complaining I want to give the

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movie flowers where flowers are due the fucking comeback or

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like the callback that Chris Tucker's character has. Uh, if

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you watch the Sopranos, you know the actors in both

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of them. He's the he's the dude who's in the

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nursing home and Junior later on. But he fights Chris

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Tucker early in the movie and he like beats it

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out of him. He says, wipe yourself, you're bleeding, and

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he throws him like a rag. And then later Chris

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Tucker kills him and throws a rag onto his dead

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body and says, wipe yourself, you're dead. It's that is

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very good. Yes, I'm sure the movie is not age well,

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but that line is whatever with me forever. Yeah, it's good.

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It's like, uh, there's so many of those one offs.

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And Tombstone another movie I showed him as everything that

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she had not seen. Another movie that there's like two

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women in that have like four lines. There's a trend

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with the movies I like guys.

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Speaker 3: Past the bash Dell test. Also all the women are hooker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, one woman who was coming additional test.

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There's the home wrecker woman in Tombstone, and then there's

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the drugged up addicted to not Valley. What was the

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medicine they were all taking laudanum wife. Those are the

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two female yeah, and the one who's just like with

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val Kilmer. Also, his performance is Doc Holliday is incredible.

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The men in this movie were incredible, like specifically specifically

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the men.

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Speaker 4: I uh. Last night with Bonk watched the movie that

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I think was also based on the Iliad and also

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failed the Bechdel test.

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Speaker 1: It's Heads of State.

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Speaker 4: It's the one where John cenas the President and Edris

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Elba is the Prime Minister of England and they're on

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Air Force one and Air Force one gets shot down

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over Belarus and they have to like fight terrorists together.

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Speaker 1: Sounds cool, iliad because the iliad.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I was lying about that part. I was

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not lying about it. Probably not passing the Bechdel test

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because I can think of two women in the movie. Well, no,

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they don't talk to each other, but one of them

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like kicks ass, and that doesn't pass the Bechdel test.

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Speaker 1: If a little just kicks ass, right, no, no mind yous? No?

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The wait would they would come on? Let's be realistic.

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Speaker 4: There's the first Lady, and there's the first Lady, the

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Vice President and the ass kicker lady, but they're never

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in the same room.

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Speaker 1: Well, the vice President and the first Lady are not

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supposed to be in the same room, So that checks out.

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We don't want one nuke to get the whole White House.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, Now the first Lady cries because she thinks

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John Seen is dead, and then the vice president turns

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out not spoilers for heads of state. The vice president lady,

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Carla Gagino. It turns out it was just a big scheme.

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Carla Gugino's in this movie. Absolutely, she is the vice President. Yes,

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I've not seen her since since City.

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Speaker 1: I think download now. She was in Haunting of hill House.

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Oh okay, real good if you know she know what

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty it looked a lot like her. Yeah, that

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had to be here.

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Speaker 1: She's not talking to any women in the movies I

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watch with her in it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, she does play the vice president and then she

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winds up being evil and she tries to usurp Johnson

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President Johnson.

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Speaker 3: At least it passes the fucking whack off test that.

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Speaker 1: Each She passed that test with flying colors many a year.

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I have also introduced Amna to Annihilation, which is one

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of her favorite. So I'm an ally because that movie

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is mainly women. That's it's only women talking to you, guys,

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get all.

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Speaker 2: Done in one film.

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Speaker 3: That way you can watch all your porne.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember Annihilation if any men talk to

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oh yeah, they talks to the other dudes in that

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squad where it's like, oh, Dan, I know you've been

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playing Expedition thirty three. When when you use the when

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you use the main characters, build up ability, when you're

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when you're using the hell's name, the main character, Robert Gradyucker,

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it's the one you build up to you get ten

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the overcharge, the overcharge, yeah, which he says, he says

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for those to come after. It's like that's I mean,

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it's like a line from like age and storytelling. But

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they say that several times in an Annihilation. It makes

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me think of Annihilation, which is very much about people

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going into an unknown area and leaving breadcrumbs for the

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people that come behind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the videotapes and stuff like that. Yeah, I could

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totally see.

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Speaker 1: That, like the expedition the journals or whatever.

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Speaker 6: But we'll talk about expeditiones.

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Speaker 4: That movie is so fucking cool. That is one that

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like every moment I've thought about that since the first

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time I saw it, I've liked it more.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: It was like Bog and I both let that theater thing,

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like I think we both gave it four stars on

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a letterbox, and then a couple of years later we

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watched it again, we're like, oh, that's a five. That's

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a five, Like that is fucking a perfect movie.

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Speaker 1: And fucking uh what what what studio was it that

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like fucking had a panic attack and lost their balls

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right before it went to theaters, or like no, no, no,

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it's going two weeks and then going straight to Hulu

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or whatever. Oh, because they thought they're like people won't

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get it and like it's not that much. I mean,

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yes it has, there's complex layers to it, but it's

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also just pretty cool on the surface, like it is.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we really appreciate it and got all

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of it the first time, So I do think it's

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one that benefits from a second watch for sure, or.

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Speaker 1: A fucking tenth. Yeah. I love it. It's amazing. Wished

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some more dudes in it. Yeah, it's the only thing.

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Speaker 4: What it was like, Yeah, naked John Cena and Interselva

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going into.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's just John Cena being like they call

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it the Shimmer. That's my John c an annihilation. Pretty good.

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Speaker 2: This is where it's a little speed up.

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Speaker 1: This Isla in the Shimmer. Yeah, is it glowing like that?

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Speaker 4: That was a lot better than I expected it to be.

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Speaker 1: It's just British. Oh yeah. The Wires is still really

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good though, for all of its faults. Yeah, there there's

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a scene later on where let's say it has rape vibes,

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but then the scene has a twist to it. I

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mean it's fucking old movie. I could say Ajax John Remar.

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James Remar's character the whole movie is given off rape vibes,

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and you're like, are they just gonna keep lett him

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get away with this? And then they encounter he they're

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walking through Central Park when they're coming through back from

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the Bronx, and uh, he sees this woman just sitting

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weirdly on a park bench and he's like, I'm gonna

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take care of his business and he hangs behind when

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they keep moving to get that meet everybody else at

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Union Square and then he's like coming on to this

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woman and she's like, she's flirting with him as well initially,

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but then he starts like making out with her pretty forwardly,

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and then he's like, no, I like, I like it rough.

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It's like, oh man, he's trying to rape her. And

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then it turns out she's an undercover cop, so they

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arrest him. And I was like, I don't know how

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to feel about that scene.

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Speaker 3: Does that only validate that that's what he was doing

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all those other times?

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Speaker 1: Is that he like? But then he then he got arrested.

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one gang the the Lizzies. It's the one all female

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gang and they say danced to the song love is

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a Fire, Love is a Fire, Love is a Fire.

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I think they wrote it for the movie and the

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I don't know if using iliad comparisons, they would be

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like the sirens that like lure the men away with

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their beauty and their the siren song. A warrior, yeah, exactly.

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Corey Barlow was just watching the Warriors as he made

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She just stole as ideas from the Warriors. That's what

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he did.

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00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 4: No, there was that time he had a kid and said,

470
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,400
what if I made a game about being a dad.

471
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: Oh, he's playing the Last of Us and watching the Warriors.

472
00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:42,759
And then I held h that's right, that's right. And

473
00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:46,559
they cried a lot about it. Yeah, but the words

474
00:21:46,599 --> 00:21:50,720
still good. Tombstone is still good, Annihilation's fine. Just too

475
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:58,880
many women sound bite? Someone else? What else is that? Mary?

476
00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:04,920
We haven't talked about. Why the fuck you're in bikini bottom?

477
00:22:05,279 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: You know what?

478
00:22:06,039 --> 00:22:09,759
Speaker 3: You know you didn't want to reference my sick news setup.

479
00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:13,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, for the audio listener, Mary's inside of tron and

480
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,319
there's a pineapple that's sponges there.

481
00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

482
00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 3: I'm at the Twitch offices for work and this is

483
00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:27,079
one of our streamer rooms and it's just, you know,

484
00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:31,319
an led nightmare in here. It's like crazy the amount

485
00:22:31,319 --> 00:22:34,799
of lighting that they've put into the background so that

486
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,839
it looks cool.

487
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 4: You have hexagons. I like hexagons.

488
00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:40,079
Speaker 2: Kids love the hexagons.

489
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 3: I don't expect, but like, this is what the kids like.

490
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 4: Did you mean to say pentogon like mcgruber, Yeah, because

491
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,039
there's actually only five sides max to any of them.

492
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,839
Speaker 1: No, those are hexagons. There's no closed off hexagon, is

493
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,279
my point.

494
00:22:58,319 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 4: Those I know, but it's it's like jazz the the hexagons.

495
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:02,839
You don't play.

496
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,079
Speaker 1: A jazz wall. I met the Pentagon.

497
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,319
Speaker 2: A strange location, but oh I forgot.

498
00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:13,799
Speaker 1: To email you or I forgot to tell you guys.

499
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,559
So we'll be in Cape Cod in a few weeks.

500
00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:20,079
And uh, there's a one of the last or one

501
00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:23,920
of the last dozens of drive in theaters in the

502
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,200
country is in well Fleet in Cape Cod, and a

503
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,200
couple of years ago we went and we watched Top

504
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,079
Gun Maverick there. It's fun. You pull the car up,

505
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,880
you turn the radio on to the right station, you

506
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,839
flip open some chairs, some mosquito spray, some drinks, and

507
00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:41,960
you're awesome. You're good to go. I emailed them like

508
00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:44,960
a couple of weeks ago. I was like, Hi, I'm

509
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,319
curious how much it would be to like to run

510
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,559
a certain movie, and like, I know that they have

511
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,319
like their own projectionists and there's a lot of complications

512
00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:54,960
and also a lot of other people in Cape Cod.

513
00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:57,960
I was gonna see if I could sort of get

514
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,359
them to play mcgruber, but no, They're like that would

515
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,759
require like a twenty or like a several thousand dollars buyout,

516
00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:07,079
and like, okay, I lost interest. But I think it's

517
00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:08,680
just Jaws, which is a good movie to watch at

518
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,680
Cape Cod when you're swimming on beaches all week.

519
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,279
Speaker 4: It's a great movie. But I just want to say,

520
00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:14,359
if you want a bad enough, my buddy Ross did

521
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,880
for his birthday rent out a theater here in Minnesota,

522
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,119
and I have to play mcgoover, so be great.

523
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: But this is drive in like sad Night. They're they're

524
00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:24,559
they're pretty well stocked with customers.

525
00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 4: But I'm sure the neighbors love hearing.

526
00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:32,839
Speaker 3: Yeah that, uh that drive ins are so successful, because you.

527
00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: Know are I don't think they are. They're just I

528
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,599
think they're like.

529
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 3: Now, I think that they there's a nostalgia to them now,

530
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,920
and the ones that I see are are doing great,

531
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,319
but you know, there's not as many of them anymore,

532
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,839
so they're kind of like clinging to this old timey

533
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,599
vibe that you get to still, you know, bang out.

534
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: While you want. I mean, they do those ones on

535
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000
like Governors that's what they did back in the day.

536
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,640
They do they do the one on Governor's Island here.

537
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,319
I think it's just a huge like sort of that

538
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:02,279
they roll out for it. This is a built in.

539
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,400
They've got the concession stand in the middle of the

540
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,960
parking lot that you got to go to between the

541
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,079
intermission between the movies.

542
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 4: It's awesome, but I totally go it's fun. What do

543
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,640
they do They rent out they used to rent out

544
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:13,880
the thing.

545
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 2: Do they get you speaker? Some of them?

546
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you get there's little posts next in

547
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,559
the parking spots with speakers, but half of them are broken,

548
00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:23,720
which adds to the charm. So you just turn They

549
00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:26,599
tell you what radio station to turn to so you

550
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:27,400
can hear it in your car.

551
00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 3: But I feel like you could just keep moving the

552
00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:34,079
radio station over until you find the movie.

553
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the idea, So you can hear the movie,

554
00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:40,000
but you pay to get into the parking lot where

555
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,079
you can see the movie screen. It's surrounded by trees,

556
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,279
and then you have to pay to get into the

557
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:43,799
parking lot.

558
00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:46,039
Speaker 2: Could sit in a tree with the radio?

559
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like a Ham radio. Yeah. I don't think they're.

560
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 4: Why don't even know what a hammer different? It seems

561
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,839
want to ham, I like saying ham.

562
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't enjoy my life.

563
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,559
Speaker 3: All right, So anyway, so any person could just climb

564
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:10,559
a tree with a Ham radio and watch a free movie.

565
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 2: Yes, they don't care for sure.

566
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,559
Speaker 1: I don't think they're trying to keep those hooligans out.

567
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:16,200
I don't think they're losing that much money on them.

568
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,759
It's movies that have been out for a while.

569
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,759
Speaker 4: I definitely when I worked at the movie theater. Maybe

570
00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:23,200
it was after I quit, I stole one of the

571
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,480
walkies that like in all the ushers and basically everyone

572
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,000
working the head of the walkie talkies, and I would

573
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:31,680
just park my car within range of the theater and

574
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:34,200
just me and my friends just be like, oh it

575
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,240
a couple of people fucking in theater fourteen and like

576
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,279
just like what, I'm sorry? Repeat that, like, you know,

577
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,279
just fuck with them. Yeah, cool, cool teenager stuff.

578
00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:44,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I was gonna ask like,

579
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,799
did you have nothing better to do than I was like,

580
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:47,240
well I was neither did I When I.

581
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 4: Was a teenage I never had anything better to do

582
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,160
near day, Yeah, no, I used to. I'd bring the

583
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,039
TV begone thing where it's like it was just a

584
00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:56,480
thing you could buy and it would cycle through remote

585
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,119
control codes and just hit the power button and I

586
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,200
would just go to like the theater where all of

587
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,640
the menus at a certain point turned into just screams.

588
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,359
They're just flat screens with popcorn prices and everything. And

589
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,480
I would just sit there and like stealthily point it

590
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,119
up there and just shut it all down, like all

591
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,559
the TVs, so all the menus, all the prices, and

592
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,079
just watch the chaos unfold. And uh yeah, that's that

593
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,799
probably caused trouble. I would think I'd do that at bars,

594
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:21,759
like sports bars like Buffalo Wild Wings, they're showing like

595
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:24,960
sports stuff, like all the TV's are off. I really

596
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:27,079
should have gotten my ass kicked a lot, is what

597
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:27,559
I'm saying.

598
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you're saving it all, but like when you

599
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,680
hit like fifty, you'll get beaten to death.

600
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,079
Speaker 1: You know what?

601
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,279
Speaker 4: And if that happened, I think during the beating, I

602
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:39,160
think this makes sense. I had a good run.

603
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:42,039
Speaker 1: Would scared me so much if I was beating someone

604
00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:43,759
to death and they're like, this makes sense.

605
00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:46,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I might be saying al and stuff too. I

606
00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:47,960
wouldn't be like tough about it. I would be crying

607
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,559
and screaming and get it. I get it, I get it.

608
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

609
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, this has been a long time coming.

610
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,319
Speaker 7: Deliver me to hate these Oh, God of responsibility.

611
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why. It was Mike Manati and that's

612
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:05,200
he just burked up here.

613
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: That's how he goes.

614
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 4: Oh, I can I tell a story that he told

615
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:14,200
while we were on Blake Club today. I just need

616
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,680
to hear your reactions to this. He said when he

617
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,200
was younger, like mid two thousands or something, and Mike,

618
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,640
I know you're listening. I'm sorry if I get any

619
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,279
part of this wrong, but I don't think I will.

620
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:25,599
There was a girl that he was into and he

621
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,640
thought she was into him, and but at the time

622
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,440
he didn't have a car. I don't think he got

623
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,640
a license until like well into his twenties, so he

624
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,079
needed rides places and on the day like, well into adulthood,

625
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,119
you know, so I think this is an adult Mike Manatti.

626
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:43,599
I think he said it was like whenever Chippendale Rescue

627
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,200
Rangers came out on DVD, because.

628
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I wouldn't call him an adult.

629
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,759
Speaker 4: Now he starts thirty eight, he said, thirty eight.

630
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't know when adulthood will kick in for him,

631
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,880
but like I don't, let's say oh four.

632
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: I think let's let's say oh four. That sounds right.

633
00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:59,680
And again, Mike, sorry if I got that wrong. And anyway,

634
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,000
he went to go to best side because it was

635
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,440
it was the day Chipendale Rescue Rangers came out on DVD,

636
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,160
and so we had his friend, the girl who he

637
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,759
thought there was something going on with, to pick him

638
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:13,799
up and take him to get Rescue Rangers. And she

639
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,720
played on loop on repeat that Bloodhound Gang song the

640
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:19,799
You and Me Baby ain't nothing but mantals let's do

641
00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:22,839
it like they do like the least subtle hint in

642
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,880
the world, playing the like hey, let's fuck song over

643
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,680
and over, and he said, in his head, He's like,

644
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,079
that's interesting. She keeps playing that anyway, Chi Chipandale and

645
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:34,440
he was like super excited about watching Chippendale, so we

646
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,119
went and picked it up. She went to like drop

647
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,000
him off at home and he's like, well, see, yuah,

648
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,839
it's just watched Chippindale.

649
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,759
Speaker 3: What a fun lady that was who helped take me

650
00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:46,960
to go get this DVD box set.

651
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 4: I don't know why she kept playing the hey, let's

652
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,039
fuck song on repeat.

653
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:53,799
Speaker 2: She must have been so frustrated.

654
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:59,279
Speaker 4: Oh, Mikey, I love that man all Mikey. Yeah, which

655
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:01,400
fucks me up because I called you Mikey recently and

656
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,799
you were like, what the fuck You've never called me

657
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:04,200
Mike and was like, oh fuck, I've been hanging out

658
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,279
with Mike Manatti too much.

659
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

660
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:08,759
Speaker 2: Maybe give he's a pure soul, you know.

661
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: I mean, there's like something good in that story of

662
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:14,640
like never assuming intent of a lady and just being

663
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,440
like she was the best anyway.

664
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: He's a pure soul. But let's just be he is

665
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,920
also supremely perverted.

666
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: Well now, maybe it's like all that pent up energy

667
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:26,240
just you're gonna get.

668
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: Beaten to death one day.

669
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,119
Speaker 3: He's just gonna explode into semen because he never actually

670
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,240
took advantage of any time.

671
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: The fuck.

672
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: It's just gonna come out every orifice. He's gotta blown.

673
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,039
Speaker 4: Love your mike.

674
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be. That'll be. I hope I'm there. Actually,

675
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:56,279
don't don't help. I'm there.

676
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,839
Speaker 2: You absolutely sick.

677
00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: If I chance to see someone explode into a mist

678
00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:03,480
of seamen, I would probably want to be there. And

679
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:07,119
it's a scary movie scene. You know which scene?

680
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: There a scene in scary movie where the guys, like

681
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,440
the like virgin guy or something's like really worked up

682
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,200
about having sex and he's about to be laid and

683
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,799
the girls on top and he's like and he like

684
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:19,759
like it cuts to the ceiling. I think the girl

685
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:21,640
gets plastered to the ceiling with seamen.

686
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Reference to nightmare on Elm Street. I've never

687
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,400
seen those.

688
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,079
Speaker 4: I don't know what. I've never seen him, Freddy, I've

689
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:32,440
never seen it. Jason.

690
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:34,279
Speaker 1: I saw a number on Elm Street for the first

691
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,680
time in a hotel in San Diego. The first time

692
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,039
I ever had flown anywhere. See my brother come back

693
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:45,319
from Iraq or wherever and uh or wherever it was wherever?

694
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Canada, Yeah, Canada, third to Montreal, third tour in Fiji.

695
00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:00,839
Speaker 1: Uh. He saw some action in Bora Bora, Sure, sure,

696
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:02,359
but I was watching this.

697
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: Two turtles going at it.

698
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,039
Speaker 1: I saw Nightmare on Elm Street and there's the one

699
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:10,039
scene where he's like stabbing someone up to the ceiling,

700
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,119
but then you go back into the real world outside

701
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:14,119
of the dream and the person's getting dragged along the

702
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:16,799
ceiling trailing blood but getting stabbed like over and over.

703
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:17,400
It's fucked up.

704
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 4: See these movies sound cool, Like I just remember the

705
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,559
Simpsons with the groundskeeper Willie where it's the Halloween parody

706
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,240
thing and thelastic. Yeah, like the idea of a guy

707
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,759
who fucking me up in your dreams is great and terrifying.

708
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:30,839
Like I guess I've just never seeked out horror, you know, and.

709
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: No one wants to sleep, and no, they're trying to asleep,

710
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:34,920
but then they like fall asleep and then they get killed.

711
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: I think that's a really cool idea. I should watch those.

712
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: Freddy was cool.

713
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,599
Speaker 2: He was funny.

714
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,839
Speaker 3: Another thing that's also important, so he spoilers is a

715
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:52,240
child molester and the parents, detail guess, and they track

716
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:56,119
him down and they kill him, and I think they

717
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,839
like light the house on fire or something like that,

718
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,079
and he's essentially.

719
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,359
Speaker 2: Like, I'll get them in there dreams and so like

720
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:02,440
that's what he does.

721
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:03,559
Speaker 4: It's always going.

722
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: After kids specifically.

723
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,759
Speaker 1: It's wow, yeah.

724
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,759
Speaker 2: Character the children of the parents that killed him.

725
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, is like why he's specifically targeting these kids and

726
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,279
he gets them in their dreams.

727
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,319
Speaker 4: Where all those times I've seen like people like kids

728
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,799
and stuff being Freddy Krueger for Halloween, they're dressing up

729
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:26,920
as a burnt child molester.

730
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,839
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that one's overlooked.

731
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,359
Speaker 3: That's why I like always found Jason's story to be

732
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,240
like so much more interesting because it's.

733
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, Jason's mom was like she was the original killer,

734
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:45,599
right that he like he like kind of took the

735
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,519
throne so to speak.

736
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,799
Speaker 3: At Lake, he becomes the killer because he like assumes

737
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,079
the lore like kind of like a campfire lore, and

738
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,519
he became like it comes to life, and so.

739
00:33:58,039 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: The children in him.

740
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:03,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was just he was just depressed and

741
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:04,680
went on the killing spree.

742
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,559
Speaker 2: I could kill the teens that are banging. I think

743
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:08,519
he's just a moment.

744
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like fascinating video estays that whole that era

745
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,840
of horror. The worst thing any of the teenagers could

746
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,960
do that would get them marked for death was anything.

747
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,079
Speaker 4: That's what Screams whole deal was just playing on those tropes.

748
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,000
You know. I like Scream a lot, Like I didn't

749
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,719
see it until a few years ago, but like I

750
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,639
hadn't seen any of this shit it's referencing. I just

751
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:30,320
do think it's a good movie in its own right,

752
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,960
Like I hadn't seen any of those classics Freddie Jason

753
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,320
or anything. But I do remember were both of you there,

754
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,840
maybe just Mike when Tim Turry on Halloween had to

755
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,840
watch Halloween one and two. It was at the place

756
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,199
you used to live with him, Like I don't know,

757
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,599
you might have been there. Yeah, And I can really

758
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,719
appreciate Halloween that because like John Carpenter is like that.

759
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,400
That's how it got me in the door where TAM's like,

760
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,400
it's John Carpenter, come on, it's gonna be great. And

761
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,480
it was very good suburban horror.

762
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:56,079
Speaker 1: Like also like some of the shots when he gets

763
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:59,400
into the houses, like also it's.

764
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,519
Speaker 3: Similar from the Guy It's scary.

765
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,639
Speaker 1: Similar to Jaws. Also, it's like those movies are also

766
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,400
just good movies in their own right, aside from the

767
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:13,440
horror bits. Also, Jamie Lee Curtis is awesome, Yes, yeah,

768
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,599
there's a reason they're lauded. But yeah, I feel.

769
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 3: Like you can like Scream as much as you want

770
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,280
because it is a good film in its own right,

771
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,480
but I think watching the movies it's referencing will give

772
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:30,800
you a better perspective of why it's very smart because

773
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,320
of the tropes that it's playing on.

774
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: Same with Scary Movie. You'll appreciate that movie more.

775
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: In the Woods, yes, I like that, Yeah, yeah.

776
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a brilliant film too.

777
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: But I think again, knowing the original is you know,

778
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,119
what they're based off of, will give you like a

779
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:50,639
deeper appreciation for what they're doing.

780
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 4: But I think through osmosis, I think those tropes like

781
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,519
you know, I knew, but like, oh don't split up.

782
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:57,280
All these people have sex and they're gonna get killed.

783
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,519
So it's like I was aware of the tropes enough

784
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:01,239
to appreciate what Scream was doing with that.

785
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: You know, dude, you sugarcoat ignorance like skittle. You are

786
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:08,960
like just constantly like I this is actually a good

787
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:09,800
thing that I don't.

788
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: Have about that.

789
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm sure there's a deeper appreciation for Scream,

790
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,199
but it's not like I was like, what are they

791
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,079
talking about, you know, like I understood what they were referencing,

792
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,360
Like horror.

793
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: I get all these jokes just fine.

794
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: There might be there might be one that proves me wrong.

795
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,920
But I do think horror is the most self referential,

796
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:35,719
self obsessed like niche. It's not a niche. A lot

797
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,280
of people are into it. I fucking love it. Mary,

798
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,599
you and I had a horror podcast. But yeah, horror

799
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,880
is obsessed with itself as a genre, like I don't

800
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,159
I don't know that, Like I mean, everything is like

801
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,800
same like uh, Mob movies also are, but not as

802
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,159
on the nose about it, and Captain in the Woods

803
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,639
is as on the nose as you get, which was

804
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,159
great because of it. And I also think, I I

805
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,679
still love Cabin in the Woods, but I don't think

806
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,119
like westerns, I don't think that like sci fi can

807
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:10,159
get I likely get self referential as well, but.

808
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: It's certain directors like Tarantino, like all of his shit

809
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:16,159
is references in movies about movies, you know, Wes.

810
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:18,559
Speaker 1: Anderson, same thing, pta same thing. I just think like

811
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:24,239
horror is the most like uh literal about it, whereas

812
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,000
like those directors like Greta Gerwig does a lot of

813
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,159
it too, where it's like, you know, they they're clearly cinophiles.

814
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,960
There's a reason that they became good directors because they've

815
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,639
seen everything and they you know, they can't help but

816
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:39,079
like reference stuff because movies built them as a person.

817
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,480
But horror is like in the very script, it's like, hey,

818
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:44,360
do you get what we're referencing? Cabin in the Woods?

819
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,920
Like every time I watch I still like it, but

820
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,159
it's also like, oh wow, they really are just like

821
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:51,239
going at it like with a hammer and I'm the now,

822
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:54,239
But yeah, I love that.

823
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 4: I love that.

824
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: Do you want about video games? Or do you have

825
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,239
something to say? Mary? You your mouth is open.

826
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,199
Speaker 3: I was thinking about a horror movie I just watched,

827
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,159
but I don't know if I love it. So it's

828
00:38:11,159 --> 00:38:14,119
twenty eight years later to like describe it. I haven't

829
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:14,599
seen it.

830
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: I did see that.

831
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,159
Speaker 4: I've not seen the previous two, but I saw years

832
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:18,639
I've seen the previous two.

833
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: What is your problem? This is literally what I just said.

834
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: I just discussed this and how despicable it is. And

835
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,280
you don't know any of the reference, but you're probably

836
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,840
gonna be like, yeah, they hung mad Dong. It's like

837
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,039
pretty sick film I think I got the gist of this.

838
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,679
Speaker 4: No, I fucking I asked many people like, if I

839
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,800
haven't seen days or weeks, can I go and enjoy

840
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,199
this never feeling like, No, it's anthology style. It's not

841
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,079
based on like you know people to me, like, I

842
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:45,079
just knew that there was a zombie thing in two

843
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:45,679
thousand and one.

844
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: Or whatever, and like, you know who wrote it?

845
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,079
Speaker 4: Alex Carr No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it

846
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,719
was yeah, you're out.

847
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:55,159
Speaker 1: To three and fucking u Tulci Gabbard.

848
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 4: What's his name? No, it's a Tony Gilroy.

849
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,079
Speaker 1: Tony Gilroy, Honny Gilroy who did Maverick, Top Gun and

850
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,639
Burn the Bourne movies and Robert ludlumon him. Yeah, and

851
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:09,920
Tony Gilroy was involved with some of those. Yeah, yeah,

852
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,320
but yeah, Alex Garland wrote twenty eight days later. Danny

853
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,280
Boyle directed it. Danny Boyle attached to this at all. Yes,

854
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,119
he directed it. Oh what did Tony Gilroy do produce? Right? Wrote? O? Wait?

855
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 4: So did Alex Carland write?

856
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: He wrote? Yes, so, Alex Garland wrote twenty eight days

857
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,679
later and Sunshine. Danny Boyle directed both of those. I

858
00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:37,480
believe Alex Garland's directorial debut. Fuck, what was it? It

859
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:41,480
would have been before Annihilation. I gotta look it up.

860
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 4: Here's the answer, okay, written by Alex Garland twenty eight

861
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,679
years later, directed by Danny Boyle. And then who's the

862
00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:49,840
other fellow we were talking about?

863
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: Tony Gilroy Tony Gilroy, right, Alex Garland, and then Annihilation

864
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,400
and then Men and then Civil War and then he

865
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,880
did Warfare, which I gotta see Warfare.

866
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 4: I want to see that too, but I'm waiting until

867
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,079
it's like affordable on four K because I don't want

868
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:05,559
to watch that streaming. I want to watch that full

869
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,599
boom and.

870
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: And it's like A twenty four is doing a movie

871
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,199
about seals is intriguing because that does not seem up

872
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:15,320
A twenty four as Alley. I've heard it's very good. Yeah,

873
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,480
same here. That's why I'm curious about it. I like

874
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:20,440
A twenty four is always like impoverished people in this

875
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:24,760
Florida housing project, or like gay people in Miami, or like,

876
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,480
wait a minute, it's a bunch of seals now, and

877
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,639
I think Afghanistan.

878
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: But it seems like it's done well. Yeah, it seems

879
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:32,559
like that could be dicey territory but it seems like

880
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:36,079
they handle it from whatever I've consulted on it without Yeah, yeah,

881
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,679
like people that were involved with like whatever that event was.

882
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: It's twenty eight years later.

883
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, I did.

884
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 4: I thought I liked it more and more as it

885
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,679
went when, because I don't like zombie stuff normally, I

886
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,039
just find it boring. But I think by the end

887
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:52,760
it did some really interesting stuff, and like Ray Fines

888
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,440
is in, he's great.

889
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: I agree.

890
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: I really want to see it.

891
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: Twenty eight days Later is one of my favorite zombie

892
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,760
films of all time.

893
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,559
Speaker 2: I just watched it two weeks ago and it still

894
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:03,039
holds up.

895
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 3: I would say it's probably slower than most people would

896
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,159
want their zombie films by today's standards, but it's like

897
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,239
the anticipation of what's going to happen that I think

898
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:18,159
makes it so so successful, and I just think it's fantastic.

899
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:20,400
I haven't seen I really did not like twenty eight

900
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,239
weeks later, which is the standard among most normal people,

901
00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:25,280
and twenty eight years later.

902
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: I'd like to see it. I haven't had time yet.

903
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: I would recommend it. I really, by the end liked it.

904
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,159
Speaker 1: Quite a bit.

905
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: I can't believe you've seen it before me, and you

906
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,079
have zero appreciation.

907
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:36,639
Speaker 1: It's an anthology.

908
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 2: You don't even like zombie films, you said.

909
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,599
Speaker 1: But I'm open minded and I'll go give.

910
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: A shot serve the things that you have in your life.

911
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:48,159
Speaker 4: I think I think it's too my benefit that I

912
00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:50,519
am willing to try things that I thought I wouldn't like.

913
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 2: Here we go.

914
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's great that I don't know shit

915
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:57,599
about the world and haven't I don't try.

916
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: You know, I don't like Job. I'm not gonna see

917
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:01,679
that movie. Then I'm not.

918
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: Gonna literally what you said about Mustard for the last

919
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,039
three decades.

920
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, and I learned about Mustard. It's

921
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:12,320
it's beneficial.

922
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: We can all agree that Dan is a hero and

923
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,320
a great person for taking this long to be open

924
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,440
minded and try new things.

925
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:26,599
Speaker 4: You don't I've been fighting under the ball riker jeans

926
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:29,239
for a long time. It is real fucking hard to

927
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,039
be open minded.

928
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: Dan finally escaped the cut.

929
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,679
Speaker 2: Your grand dad, you're being a piece of ship. Nothing

930
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,760
to do with what a piece of ship you are.

931
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,199
You're your own piece of ship.

932
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: I've always tried to be better.

933
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 3: Mary, You're gonna be like that kind of person who's

934
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,440
like so bad and then right on your deathbed you're

935
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:55,360
like I'm so sorry, and then heaven. Yeah, I'm good now, I'm.

936
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: I'm genuinely speaking about that. I went to Catholic school,

937
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,719
so obviously I'm If there's one thing I'm terrified of,

938
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,559
it's Hell, like the idea of like if that's real,

939
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:06,559
it's like, wow, a place where like the worst shit

940
00:43:06,679 --> 00:43:09,519
that you I'm just in a in a plane having

941
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:12,119
a dental surgery with the anesthesia for eternity. That's like

942
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:13,639
the scariest thing I can ever think of.

943
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: Bring it on, fucking who cares?

944
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 3: But got my dick, devil, Yeah, come get this.

945
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it, devil my bitch.

946
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,599
Speaker 4: So I as a teenager who was still very afraid

947
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,800
of the devil and hell and things like that. I

948
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,760
wasn't like active life, was never actually going to church

949
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,119
and stuff like that, but I still like by default,

950
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,400
believed in it because I lived in Kansas and went

951
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,239
to Catholic school. I was working at McDonald's when I

952
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,199
was fourteen, and somebody handed me like they paid at

953
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:47,840
the window and then they gave me like a little pamphlet.

954
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,280
I was like, what the fuck is this? And I

955
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,679
look at it and it was, uh, it was a

956
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,719
little prayer thing and it said something about the lines

957
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,800
of like make sure you say this prayer to absolve

958
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,199
yourself of sins or whatever, and you'll go to heavy

959
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,000
when you die. And for some fucking reason as a kid,

960
00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:05,119
I was like, oh, sweet, okay, so no matter how much,

961
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,760
Like I'm like fourteen, so I'm like whacking off crazy

962
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,000
at the time, and I was like I was told

963
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:13,039
that was like super sin and like I'm going to

964
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,519
hell because I'm whacking off way too much. And it's like,

965
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,760
but this lady McDonald's handed me a pamphlet and so

966
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,760
if I'm about to die, I will just say this,

967
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,719
like I accept Lord Jesus Christ into my Life's my

968
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,199
Lord and savior, you know, absolved me of my blah blah.

969
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,159
And I like that was so burned in my brain

970
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,239
that like anytime just knee jerk reaction if there was

971
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,639
like a car swerve on a highway or the turbulence

972
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,960
or something, or every time I come it's just like,

973
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,840
oh the Lord, accept the Lord and Savior. Yeah, and

974
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:42,480
it's like I'm good.

975
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm good.

976
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 4: I'll be clear for if that's the case, Angels.

977
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: I don't with you.

978
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: They're all like, no, don't check in on him every

979
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,000
time he does that prayer.

980
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:54,039
Speaker 2: Do not go in.

981
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: There, Mike said, the coming thing. I just do it

982
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,719
when I'm about to die.

983
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: I live long since since, stop praying when I'm jaying it.

984
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,559
Speaker 4: It was only because I was a good I was

985
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:08,719
a good Christian boy. So I wouldn't whack off on

986
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:09,480
Christmas Day.

987
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,559
Speaker 1: Or Eastern Those are the only two days I really would.

988
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: I would be like and I would like have to

989
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,199
like talk myself up as a kid to be like.

990
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,000
Christmas Eve, I'm laying in bed, I'm like, all right,

991
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:18,639
after midnight, I can't be whacking off.

992
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: You had to get yourself county to.

993
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,519
Speaker 1: Not jack off the next day. I was fourteen, sir,

994
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,079
it's fucking Saturday before Eastern. Dan's in church just like, no,

995
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,960
he's about to be resurrected.

996
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 4: He's in the tomb right now.

997
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,119
Speaker 1: Edward forty hands, his mouth's like what the fuck? He

998
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:38,039
ends up just like, but.

999
00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:39,039
Speaker 4: Just rub these together.

1000
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, his dick was pinched off by two for days

1001
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,159
of cold forty five. All right, way to go, that'd

1002
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:51,320
be great, bleed out of your dick.

1003
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I got to haven't think covered

1004
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:55,480
if that's real.

1005
00:45:55,559 --> 00:46:02,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys watch my vibiams now, sure, Yeah.

1006
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,199
Speaker 2: We don't have to. But we never talked about the

1007
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:11,400
film that I know why we pose it. We were like, oh,

1008
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:12,920
looks like Mary has something to.

1009
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 3: Say, and I said, yeah, I watched a horror movie,

1010
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,880
but I don't know if it's very good.

1011
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: And then twenty eight years later another.

1012
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,559
Speaker 3: It's twenty eight minutes talking about a horror movie that

1013
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,079
Dan doesn't know shit about, but kind of like.

1014
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: No, we're here, we're here. What is the movie?

1015
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: I'm still making fun of you? Ignoring me?

1016
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,599
Speaker 4: Right, you're making fun of mine.

1017
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:35,519
Speaker 1: There's a difference between ignoring and interrupting and willfully the

1018
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:36,599
worst redirecting you.

1019
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:37,599
Speaker 4: What is the movie you are?

1020
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: No?

1021
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: Ally, you didn't stand up.

1022
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:43,639
Speaker 1: For me there, Mary? You know what? You know what

1023
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:45,000
show has never been?

1024
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: It's just you shaying it for like the last ten minutes.

1025
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,159
Speaker 1: You know what show has never passed the backdel test virus?

1026
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: This one?

1027
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:56,079
Speaker 4: Wow, I guess that's true.

1028
00:46:56,159 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: What is the movie you want to talk about?

1029
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,639
Speaker 2: I got to get a woman to report place one

1030
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:01,000
of you.

1031
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:06,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the Yeah, what's the movie? Go?

1032
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,599
Speaker 2: Okay? So what I was gonna say before?

1033
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: I was wagging off on Christmas?

1034
00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:13,599
Speaker 1: No you weren't. You better not have been? No, No, no

1035
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:16,159
I wasn't. I was sorry. Sorry, sorry, Mike, you're gonna

1036
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:19,679
say something. I was jade and a Halloween wearing a

1037
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:28,440
Freddy Krueger costume. I still have no clue. What shut up?

1038
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 4: Mary's trying to say something.

1039
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: Long finger, extra long, wolverine blades, just chopping my dee up.

1040
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:46,119
Fucking Julian, this Freddy just stabbing my dick over and over.

1041
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,880
Do you want candy? What are you doing on our porch?

1042
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,960
That's talk? What do you say to the cops when

1043
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,599
you call them? There's a child's paying Olympics sing himself

1044
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:06,440
on our porch? Do I give him a fucking Hershey's bar?

1045
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:09,280
What does he need? I think we need an ambulance.

1046
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:12,320
He's got a sweater on and he's married.

1047
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 4: Do you see how respectful and quiet on?

1048
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: He's pretty burnt up?

1049
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 4: Bad?

1050
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: Stop trying to be an ally.

1051
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 4: I'm Mary, Mike. Let Mary talk hello?

1052
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: Please only doing for the validation this dick.

1053
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: His dick is cut in half. Pretty bad he just

1054
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:36,079
exploded into a mist of com I guess he's gone.

1055
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:37,760
Never mind, it's fine.

1056
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:40,119
Speaker 2: Brought to you by A twenty four.

1057
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:42,679
Speaker 1: What have you seen?

1058
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: Both of you? It's another movie from A twenty four.

1059
00:48:48,639 --> 00:48:49,840
It's called Talk to Me.

1060
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: Really these days, damn it.

1061
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: It's A twenty four's highest grossing film, so it's really small.

1062
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,079
Speaker 2: Talk to Me. It's a high g.

1063
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 3: I think it's made in Australia because everybody has Australian accents.

1064
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:10,079
Speaker 2: I assume it is. It's an interesting concept, so I'll

1065
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:11,480
do my best to tldr it.

1066
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: The concept is is there is like a disembodied hand

1067
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:18,039
that these like high schooler kids have gotten their hands on,

1068
00:49:18,519 --> 00:49:21,199
and they understand the system. You like, light a candle,

1069
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,679
and when you touch this disembodied hand, a dead person

1070
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,000
will appear in front of you.

1071
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,079
Speaker 2: And if you say I let you.

1072
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:32,519
Speaker 3: In, then the dead person goes into your body and

1073
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,119
is you for like as long as they let you

1074
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,480
is the dead person not always, but like they might

1075
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,440
not be a good person. Some people are dead because

1076
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,119
of an accident. Well, so the reason the kids like

1077
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:48,400
doing it is kind of like almost like a high.

1078
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,239
They like doing it because when somebody enters you. It's

1079
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,719
like a crazy feeling that you're not yourself and like

1080
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,599
a dead person got to like be in your body.

1081
00:49:57,679 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: Is that's crazy.

1082
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:00,559
Speaker 3: But then all the kids use their phone to like

1083
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,880
film what happens because they sometimes say or do crazy stuff.

1084
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:08,639
Speaker 4: Because they are conscious of what their body's doing during they.

1085
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,519
Speaker 3: Don't know they don't know during the possession what's happening,

1086
00:50:11,519 --> 00:50:14,199
but they have like crazy vibes and feelings. But you

1087
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,639
have to get out within like sixty to ninety seconds

1088
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,840
or the person who's in your body wants to stay,

1089
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,840
and then there's like an incident where essentially, like you know,

1090
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,159
you could kind of see where it's going, but like

1091
00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:29,639
if you don't get the person out in time, then

1092
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:32,559
the person that the dead person wants to stay in

1093
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:35,519
the body and it causes all these crazy complications. I

1094
00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:38,400
actually think it's quite good, but I will preface this

1095
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,920
with a low budget, so like don't go into this

1096
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,880
expecting like really cool graph It's mostly like dialogue and

1097
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:51,000
just kind of creepy conceptual things that's happening. But it's

1098
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:54,039
all you know, students are you know, kids in school

1099
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:57,239
that are going through this like super traumatic crazy stuff.

1100
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,960
I thought it was a neat concept, and I like

1101
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:02,440
the way it was executed. But I also think, like,

1102
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,760
if you're one of those people that are like, don't

1103
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,039
go in there, you'll die, you'll hate this film because

1104
00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:10,320
it's it's high school kids, so they make nothing but

1105
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:11,559
terrible decisions.

1106
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: This entire film.

1107
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,119
Speaker 3: All they do is make awful, awful choices, So you

1108
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:17,800
have to go into it being like, these kids are dumb.

1109
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: They'll probably all die. Like I'm not going to stress

1110
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,360
about that.

1111
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 4: I I like getting recommendations from you, Mary, because I

1112
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,960
feel like you have not really missed. And the latest

1113
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,840
one that we took you up on was Barbarian.

1114
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one was so much better than this. I'm

1115
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:33,679
a little worried. I can't live that up.

1116
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: I don't think this is I actually when this movie

1117
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:37,519
was over, I was like I didn't like it, and

1118
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:39,320
then I slept on it and I was like, it's

1119
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,760
it's actually not that bad. But I don't want to

1120
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,360
overhype this at all. This is no Barbarian. This is

1121
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,280
this is a low budget Let me try and preface

1122
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,360
this is like an indie game equivalent. This is low

1123
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,760
budget student not student grade, but like lower quality film

1124
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,480
with student act like you know, young teen actors that

1125
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:01,199
I was like, hey, not too shabby, but I don't

1126
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:02,519
think it's that good.

1127
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: So I'm a little worried.

1128
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,159
Speaker 1: Now.

1129
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,199
Speaker 2: I feel like you're gonna see this and be like Mary,

1130
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:07,880
that was not I.

1131
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 4: Feel like you've couched it properly. I feel like you

1132
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,760
built up quite a bit, but then you sold.

1133
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:17,639
Speaker 3: I feel so strongly about Barbarian. I mean, like, I

1134
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:20,400
think the movies just kind of dumb. I I really

1135
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,239
do like watching horror movies. I watch them all the time,

1136
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,960
and I feel like I would like to do like

1137
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,400
a maybe, Mike, that's something we do a bonus of

1138
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,119
of like top like you know, fifty or one hundred

1139
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:33,360
horror movies. Because I've seen so many now, I have

1140
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,719
gotten quite finicky with what I think is like the

1141
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,360
quintessential horror films that everyone has to see. Now with

1142
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,519
Halloween a coming, which I know that probably sounds insane

1143
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:46,400
because it's like July, but this is actually the time

1144
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,480
when I start thinking about my Halloween costume because they

1145
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:50,679
usually take about three months to build, So like, I

1146
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:52,559
don't fuck around, like I have to start thinking about

1147
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:52,880
it now.

1148
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: Uh. The Barbarian directors' new movie is coming out in like.

1149
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 4: Zach krecor webone again.

1150
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:04,639
Speaker 1: It's that trailer where all those like kids are oh

1151
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,719
like like running out where like, yeah, what's his name?

1152
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:12,199
Speaker 3: The anime I'm so excited about Naruto.

1153
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:19,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm seeing there's some are there early reviews out weapons.

1154
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,119
Speaker 3: Gregor August eighth, it's coming out, so it's such a

1155
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:23,960
creepy trailer.

1156
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 2: They I'll tell you what that and Barbarian.

1157
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: They know how to make a trailer because it was

1158
00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:31,159
so brilliant about the Barbarian trailer.

1159
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: Now, Dan, did you see.

1160
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,119
Speaker 4: You were so adamant not Yeah I did. After the

1161
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,480
fact I watched it, it was like, oh, that's really good.

1162
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:43,639
Speaker 3: It's a brilliant trailer because they resturrect you like she's

1163
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,599
it's it's like a scene where she's like, oh, something's

1164
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:49,159
wrong and the guy's like there's nothing wrong, there's nothing wrong,

1165
00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:50,360
and you're like that guy's bad.

1166
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 2: It's all misdirection.

1167
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 4: It's like there's also the trailer where they're like justin

1168
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:59,440
Long's new movie, like a couplets that is so risky

1169
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,239
like that I respect that so much because, like you know,

1170
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,519
marketing people at any fucking big movie company have got

1171
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:08,000
to be like, no, you can't do that.

1172
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: That's not gonna like.

1173
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: You know, you got to show the monster.

1174
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:11,199
Speaker 1: Yeah I can't.

1175
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,079
Speaker 4: So like whoever, whatever battles they fought to make sure

1176
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:17,320
they like hid what that movie was good on them,

1177
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,440
Like that's fucking awesome.

1178
00:54:18,679 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 3: I think in the horror genre, at least it is

1179
00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:25,039
understood that you don't you don't actually want to show

1180
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:28,719
the the bad thing, like it's it's a Jaws, that's

1181
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,440
Jaws rules, where it's like, you know, we don't see

1182
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,440
it for half the movie, ye don't see it. You know,

1183
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,000
you got to build the anticipation and the fear and

1184
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:35,960
the concerns and.

1185
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,559
Speaker 2: All that stuff. So yeah, I'm really excited about that.

1186
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:40,119
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be it's gonna be a good

1187
00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:42,800
Q three of scary movies.

1188
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to it.

1189
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,559
Speaker 1: One battle after another. Paul Thomas Anderson's new movie. We've

1190
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:51,559
seen the trailer for that. Uh no, it's based on Uh,

1191
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:54,719
I forget who wrote the book, but uh Leonardo DiCaprio.

1192
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,239
It's like this rebel sect that's rising up during a

1193
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,719
revolution Benicio del Toro. But watch the trailer Leo is

1194
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,320
just the biggest slob ever.

1195
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: Really, yeah he should.

1196
00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:13,519
Speaker 3: Oh, he's on his way. The last couple of films

1197
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:15,559
he's been and I'm like, you do this did not

1198
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,679
do well for you. Like, he's obviously a very cute man,

1199
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,840
but at some point they've really, they've really let himself go.

1200
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,760
I saw Killers of the Flower Moon finally on an

1201
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,920
airplane because I had I had like eight booblous hours

1202
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,199
to kill and I was like, I might as well

1203
00:55:33,599 --> 00:55:34,920
watch this film.

1204
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,559
Speaker 2: And it is so so long, and.

1205
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 4: It's one of the only times I think I've fallen

1206
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,960
asleep in a movie.

1207
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 3: It's unnecessarily long. I think it really insists on itself.

1208
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,760
But holy shit, they it insists upon itself. Leonardo DiCaprio,

1209
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,079
they like, at no point were like, no, he doesn't

1210
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:55,679
need to look good in this, Like they just make

1211
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,719
him look like a piece of shit the entire film.

1212
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: And I I respect that.

1213
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look up the tra for one battle after another. Yeah, no,

1214
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,719
the Killer's the Flower Moon. We went to the Alamo

1215
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:11,599
in fight. I here in New York and my Amanda

1216
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,760
and my friends and my friend they both fell asleep,

1217
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,039
So me and my buddy, my friend's wife or sorry,

1218
00:56:17,079 --> 00:56:21,599
my friend's husband were awake and we had just ordered

1219
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:24,599
four espresso Martiniz to all stay awake, So me and

1220
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:26,639
him had to end up drinking to a piece and

1221
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:28,400
I still fell asleep during that movie.

1222
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:31,199
Speaker 4: It's like me and Mike seeing Rambo five and getting

1223
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:34,199
too many white cloths, like spilling it all over each.

1224
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because that was fucking wow. Let's let's move

1225
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:43,880
from my opinions about Rambo five. No, it's awesome.

1226
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,159
Speaker 4: The thing I'm curious about is he brought up Leo

1227
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,599
and A twenty four and reminded you I heard of

1228
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:50,960
this new Scorsese movie he's making.

1229
00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be like a good Fella.

1230
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,199
Speaker 4: Style thing with like it's about this real life mob

1231
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,639
boss that was in Hawaii and it's Leo and then

1232
00:56:59,679 --> 00:57:02,880
the is gonna play the mob boss in this Scorsese movie.

1233
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,880
He especially the super charismatic mob boss, and like Rock,

1234
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:09,360
like I'm seeing it happen like right now. Where the

1235
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,800
Rock was doing his big kind of like action movie thing,

1236
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,440
he's trying to be the new Arnold doing is you know,

1237
00:57:13,519 --> 00:57:17,119
rundowns and walking talls and all that and fast fives

1238
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:19,639
and all that shit. And then he that kind of

1239
00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:21,559
stalled out. You know, it seems like that Black Adam

1240
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:24,719
thing really damaged his reputation in Hollywood. And he has

1241
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,760
like numerous projects in the works right now that are

1242
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,679
all like clearly like a determined career swing where it's

1243
00:57:31,679 --> 00:57:34,239
an A twenty four movie by this one of the

1244
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,400
safties I think it's Benny Safty. Oh where the UFC

1245
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,239
thing where he plays that UFC guy. He looks fucking

1246
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,400
crazy and it's him and Emily Blunt and the trailer

1247
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,119
and like he looks nuts and it's clearly like a

1248
00:57:43,239 --> 00:57:45,480
real movie, like an A twenty four thing. There's this

1249
00:57:45,559 --> 00:57:48,199
Scorsese thing where he's gonna be this mob boss and

1250
00:57:48,239 --> 00:57:51,239
there was Oh, it's a Darren Aronofsky movie. So he's

1251
00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:53,239
gonna and Darren Aronofsky's the movie he's sitting like the

1252
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,880
late nineties. He's gonna be this like charismatic kind of

1253
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,119
like you know, Tony Robbins guru type or whatever. So

1254
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:02,880
it's like I'm curious how he does. Like, can you

1255
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,800
guys picture the rock as people are wrestling people, so

1256
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,880
you're not tainted by the wrestling aspect.

1257
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,679
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I've seen enough of it. I think

1258
00:58:10,719 --> 00:58:13,119
he's got that star power, like not the star power,

1259
00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:14,840
I think he's got the acting shops where it's like

1260
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:17,679
I feel like Batista was also kind of did this

1261
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:18,159
not well.

1262
00:58:18,199 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 4: But he's started with that, you know. I mean, but

1263
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,440
he's a did like Guardians and stuff like that. But

1264
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,599
like Batista was like doing really thoughtful twenty forty nine.

1265
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

1266
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: He was like moving away from the rocks lane.

1267
00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 3: I think Batista also like did I think he like

1268
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,480
earned a little bit more of his chops by doing

1269
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:38,480
like more humble roles, whereas like I've I've kind of

1270
00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:42,679
gotten a little sour on uh, Dwayne Johnson just because

1271
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:47,119
I feel like he's taking himself much more seriously. I

1272
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:49,280
I just haven't seen anything where I'm like, now, this

1273
00:58:49,559 --> 00:58:52,960
is acting. It's usually the same goddamn goop.

1274
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, like charismatic Smiley, you know, Blockbuster guy. That's why

1275
00:58:56,519 --> 00:58:59,599
I'm wondering, like, with three like kind of artsy, big

1276
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:02,719
name movies coming up, I wonder if he will do

1277
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,679
this pivot successfully. I'm very very curious to watch this.

1278
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,719
Speaker 1: I don't know that all three of those directors and

1279
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,920
I've said my Peet. When Drew was here, Daniel rout

1280
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,519
I talked about how I think Darren Aronowski makes a

1281
00:59:14,519 --> 00:59:18,840
lot of shitty movies. I don't know that Scorsese and

1282
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,800
what would whether it's Benny or I forget Ben's brother's name,

1283
00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:27,079
every one of his I don't know that they would

1284
00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:29,760
have like cast him just because he's trying to make

1285
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,960
this pivot, like he must have shown something or like.

1286
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,559
Speaker 4: Clear he's extremely talented, he's insane, and like you're talking

1287
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:39,400
about Batista being humble, like Rock is the least humble

1288
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,960
guy in the world. But like, yeah, I wonder if

1289
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:44,440
I do think he might have the chops like Mike

1290
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:45,480
to what you were saying.

1291
00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I see it, I want to think, like

1292
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,519
Adam Sandler would have been good in uh Punch for

1293
00:59:55,519 --> 00:59:57,280
people Safty Brothers.

1294
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 3: Again, I would prefer them to take the risk, even

1295
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,760
fail and be like, Wow, they tried something outside of

1296
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,920
their wheelhouse. Then be like the same one trick pony

1297
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,559
their whole career. So like, good on him for putting

1298
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:11,719
in the energy and earning it. I just haven't seen,

1299
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:15,119
I haven't been validated yet that like they actually can't

1300
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:15,519
do it.

1301
01:00:16,199 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting.

1302
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,239
Speaker 4: I think we were robbed of you broughtut a Sandler

1303
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,280
and how he made the turn and punched drunk and uncut.

1304
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:24,880
I think there was a world where if Chris Farley

1305
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:29,679
had survived. I think that man was so unbelievably talented

1306
01:00:29,679 --> 01:00:32,599
and charismatic that we could have seen a Sandler ask

1307
01:00:32,719 --> 01:00:35,639
like Chris Farley could win an Oscar if he had survived.

1308
01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:39,039
I think like that guy was just a ball of

1309
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:41,639
chrisma and entertainment. But I think he would also have

1310
01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:43,679
like a darker side you could tap into and be

1311
01:00:44,039 --> 01:00:44,800
very very good at.

1312
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: You know. I wonder if he would have had all

1313
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,760
that if he wasn't living the way he was though.

1314
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,800
That's yeah, so I don't know him and John Belushi.

1315
01:00:52,119 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, Norm, Norm could have won an Oscar.

1316
01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:58,239
Speaker 1: What an actor? Yeah he's amazing. And what the fuck

1317
01:00:58,239 --> 01:01:00,000
funny bit? What is it called funny bit?

1318
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:00,559
Speaker 4: Which one?

1319
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:07,079
Speaker 1: Funny people? No funny business? What's the one where dirty work?

1320
01:01:07,199 --> 01:01:07,920
Dirty work? Yeah?

1321
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, dirty work screwed? And yeah he's the worst actor

1322
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:11,320
in the world.

1323
01:01:11,519 --> 01:01:12,719
Speaker 1: He's in Billy Madison too.

1324
01:01:12,719 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 4: Briefly, Sandler gets his friends paid for sure.

1325
01:01:17,039 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: All right, you want to talk about video games? Yabe.

1326
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,000
All right. Uh, if you follow Giant b on you

1327
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:27,920
probably know Dan. You have taken the turn and started

1328
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,440
playing Claire Obscurity Exhibition thirty three. Fill the fire escape

1329
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,480
people in. What are your thoughts? How far are you

1330
01:01:33,519 --> 01:01:35,639
before you had? I not played any of it last

1331
01:01:35,639 --> 01:01:38,639
time we talked expedansion, So is that a is that

1332
01:01:38,679 --> 01:01:39,679
a series or was it just one?

1333
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 8: Oh?

1334
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: No, it was just one stream. But you're playing in

1335
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,599
your free time the whole game.

1336
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 4: So if you're worried about spoil, I'm gonna talk generally

1337
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,440
about where I'm at in the game. So mute.

1338
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,599
Speaker 1: If you need to have you both beat it.

1339
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 4: Uh, No, I forget. I forget again. I forget everything

1340
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,360
we ever talk about. No, are you both into it?

1341
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,159
Speaker 1: I talked to a friend and apparently I'm like two

1342
01:02:01,199 --> 01:02:01,960
hours from the end.

1343
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 3: I treat death stranding like you treat j RPGs death

1344
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,159
stranding disrespectfully.

1345
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's primed to wow death strand attack death Stranding

1346
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,000
to expression thirty three. I love it.

1347
01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:26,239
Speaker 4: I'm going up to the Patress's heart. Oh okay, okay,

1348
01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:29,559
I'm like at the monolith, so.

1349
01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: You're yeah, so like five sixths of the way through, probably.

1350
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,039
Speaker 4: It feels like I'm yeah closed, yeah, yeah.

1351
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:40,119
Speaker 1: I'm yeah. Okay, so you you mad? You covered some ground,

1352
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:41,000
You're not far behind me.

1353
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, Mary, what's your uh status on that status?

1354
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:46,159
Speaker 2: On the game?

1355
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:47,719
Speaker 4: Are you playing thirty three?

1356
01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: I'm actively I haven't played it at least in two weeks,

1357
01:02:52,039 --> 01:02:53,480
so I haven't played it in a while.

1358
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,599
Speaker 1: I'd love how you first started the sentence, I'm actively well,

1359
01:02:57,639 --> 01:03:00,280
I haven't played in two weeks.

1360
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:03,079
Speaker 3: Active in the sense that I haven't quit, and I

1361
01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:06,199
would traveling a lot. You'll notice that all of my

1362
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,199
games are games that you can play on a Steam

1363
01:03:08,239 --> 01:03:09,039
deck or phone.

1364
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with a bit of the beginning of this year.

1365
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 3: I've just been traveling so much. But I do I have,

1366
01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:18,079
I am, I haven't quit yet, I like would like

1367
01:03:18,159 --> 01:03:18,960
to complete the game.

1368
01:03:19,199 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 4: So let's do this. Let's do oh cat debut here,

1369
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:26,400
Let's do a fuse. Let's bring the fuse. Let's dust

1370
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,880
it off for where we are right now. If the

1371
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,159
game ended right where we're at, I'll start. I think

1372
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:33,480
I would give this a nine.

1373
01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh okay, if you had, if you had, if you

1374
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,840
had asked me an hour two hours prior in the game,

1375
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,400
I would have been a nine, I will say, and

1376
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:48,840
this is uh hmm, this is tough. It's one of

1377
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,400
those games. Once you see where the ending is going,

1378
01:03:51,519 --> 01:03:53,880
or you think it's going, it's hard to give an

1379
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,719
opinion on it. Like your opinion itself almost kind of

1380
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,519
spoils stuff at the end. Okay, well, then try lightly.

1381
01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:03,239
That means just assume I was at the same point

1382
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:05,280
in the game as you. I would have probably also

1383
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:05,800
said nine.

1384
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 4: Okay, So basically, something happens and you're less.

1385
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,719
Speaker 1: Yes, I think once the ending kicks in the gear

1386
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:16,360
and maybe something completely reverses again, but once you see

1387
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,599
the turn they take, I'm like, ah, not my cup

1388
01:04:19,639 --> 01:04:20,039
of tea.

1389
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,119
Speaker 4: Well put it this way. If it's a story based thing, yeah,

1390
01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:25,440
there's not much. Like they could just shit their pants

1391
01:04:25,719 --> 01:04:28,440
on credits and I would like still give us a nine.

1392
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:31,360
Like I like the story. I'm more invested in the

1393
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,440
story than I certainly expected to be, but like, just

1394
01:04:34,519 --> 01:04:36,599
the moment to moment has been so fun. I don't

1395
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:39,440
think any narrative thing could hurt my opinion at this point.

1396
01:04:39,679 --> 01:04:43,559
Speaker 3: I feel like right now I'm at a seven. And

1397
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:47,280
that's really mostly because despite the fact that Mike you

1398
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,159
described the combat system really well when you were playing it.

1399
01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:53,320
It's very intricate. But for me, I just don't care

1400
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,199
about stances and like the learning a different combat person

1401
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,480
for each I think it's a bit too concluded. This

1402
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:03,239
is a personal subjective opinion. I think the game is

1403
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:06,360
probably excellent for what it is. These are just not

1404
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,760
games I usually play. And I'm like, God, damn it,

1405
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,599
do I have to like memorize each system and like

1406
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,320
use the same system of lighting them on fire and

1407
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,639
then using this girl because she does more damage when

1408
01:05:17,639 --> 01:05:19,679
they're on fire, and then using this guy because he's

1409
01:05:19,679 --> 01:05:22,639
at his tenth hit so he can do like the

1410
01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:25,000
super damage whatever. And it's just like, I don't know.

1411
01:05:25,159 --> 01:05:26,800
I think what I'm saying is is I think the

1412
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,360
game is very good. I just don't think the game

1413
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,079
is Generally, these types of games are not for me.

1414
01:05:31,239 --> 01:05:32,119
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

1415
01:05:33,199 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 4: It's that's how I typically have been with the turn

1416
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,400
based RPGs. But like that the snappiness of the combat

1417
01:05:39,519 --> 01:05:42,920
and just how good those counters feel, and something like

1418
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:43,519
the counters.

1419
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,239
Speaker 1: I do like systems too.

1420
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 4: Like the thing I don't like in turn based RPGs

1421
01:05:47,679 --> 01:05:50,039
is just feeling like I'm selecting something from a menu

1422
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,360
and then I just watch something. I don't feel like

1423
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,320
I'm planning a game. I'm just Oh, I picked the thing,

1424
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:55,119
and now I watch it.

1425
01:05:55,639 --> 01:05:58,519
Speaker 3: You have to be active because to do the damage correctly,

1426
01:05:58,559 --> 01:05:59,519
you have to hit the button at the.

1427
01:05:59,519 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: Exact right time. Plus you have to be ready for counters. Yeah.

1428
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,639
Speaker 4: Yes, and I love like I have not dodged a

1429
01:06:05,719 --> 01:06:09,880
single fucking time past the tutorial. I perry every I

1430
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:10,840
don't hit it every time.

1431
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,599
Speaker 1: I hit a lot sometimes.

1432
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah the jump thing in the yeah yeah, yeah,

1433
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:17,199
but I never die.

1434
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: Never ever. Love. You kill an enemy with one of those,

1435
01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:23,199
like you jump and then fucking blast them and then

1436
01:06:23,239 --> 01:06:26,480
the sun they all hit. Yeah, so fucking good.

1437
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 4: But I actually like the systems stuff because like I

1438
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:32,639
do can like the systems. It's not a game. It's

1439
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:34,320
not a game system in the way like an action

1440
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,119
game has like a Devil may Cry. I'm not, like,

1441
01:06:36,119 --> 01:06:38,360
you know, do an active battle. But the systems do

1442
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,480
make me think like, okay, so I need to get

1443
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,519
my l in virtuoso stands. I need to do every

1444
01:06:43,679 --> 01:06:45,480
possible Illuminia, what's that.

1445
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,679
Speaker 1: Fucking If you build her correctly and you can keep

1446
01:06:48,719 --> 01:06:50,159
her sorry continue.

1447
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, oh I know, because like I'm trying to

1448
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,199
find ways like all of the stuff. Whenever there's new skills,

1449
01:06:55,239 --> 01:06:58,800
anything that like keeps your in Virtuoso stands longer or

1450
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,159
illumina is that kind of help that or whatever. It's like, okay, well,

1451
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,840
so like the fire damage and mark is great on her,

1452
01:07:04,119 --> 01:07:07,199
So I'll give these guys more stuff that cause burn

1453
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,400
and marking, and then I'll try to set it up

1454
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,199
so there before her.

1455
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: Its like I love that shit. It's like a logic puzzle,

1456
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,119
Like I think it is great, and it's like it's

1457
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:17,480
one of those games where I don't know, I'm in

1458
01:07:17,519 --> 01:07:19,599
the shower. I'm like, oh fuck, I wonder if combining

1459
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:22,320
those two would help would like work, But I got

1460
01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:25,920
Mile to basically, and I kind of I will. I

1461
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,719
love how they let you break the game. It's almost

1462
01:07:28,719 --> 01:07:30,679
like Blatro esque in the way they're like, if you

1463
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,360
figure out how to break it, we're not going to

1464
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:37,760
stop you, even against major bosses. So Mile basically yeah

1465
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,800
you like yeah, Mary, like I I somewhat agree for sure, Like,

1466
01:07:42,039 --> 01:07:44,480
especially every single character I think I said this last

1467
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,079
time feels like they're pulled from a different RPG because

1468
01:07:47,079 --> 01:07:50,039
their systems how they work are so different, and it's

1469
01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:52,239
funny to me, Gustav is so boring compared to everybody

1470
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,679
else his combat, Like it's fun it's dumb. It's like

1471
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,239
build up, build up until this like huge, uh, like

1472
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,000
all out of there, and like there are obviously intricacies

1473
01:08:02,039 --> 01:08:04,679
to that, but miles like I got her set up,

1474
01:08:04,719 --> 01:08:07,840
so I use the there's the ability where she can

1475
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,159
pass her turn basically to remain in the same stance,

1476
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:17,000
but also build up automatically three AP. But then there's

1477
01:08:17,079 --> 01:08:21,439
another one where yees, if she hits a marked target,

1478
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,000
she'll gain three AP and stay in the same stance.

1479
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,560
So if I have not gotten the chance to do

1480
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,520
a mark target yet, then it won't matter. However, I

1481
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:35,359
started building up what's the mage's the elemental mage's name Lune.

1482
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,680
I build up her speed so much too, and also

1483
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,640
I use the luminae where she always goes first, so

1484
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,039
she's basically marking everybody, setting everybody on fire. And then

1485
01:08:46,199 --> 01:08:47,800
by the time it gets to myle who's still in

1486
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,159
virtuosa stance, she does passe and a passe is the

1487
01:08:51,159 --> 01:08:52,720
one the sword comes out of the ground, stabs them

1488
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:53,680
in their asshole. Basically.

1489
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 4: Oh, so that's the one that's normally five, but then

1490
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,640
it's two when you're in virtuosa, Right, that's the one

1491
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:58,760
I always build towards it.

1492
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,319
Speaker 1: It sucks everything ups, but and then if you build

1493
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:04,640
it up to you can again. You can build up

1494
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,399
three if you just pass your turn, and it'll keep

1495
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:10,000
her in the stance she was in. Oh yeah, it's uh,

1496
01:09:10,079 --> 01:09:13,600
I forget what it's called. But yeah, the the synergies

1497
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:18,760
between the characters are great. I also really really like

1498
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,760
how you can realize halfway through a battle that you're

1499
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,920
under leveled. Yes, but you could still pull it off

1500
01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:29,319
because if you use the real time elements correctly. But

1501
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,760
but there's certain fights I will say, I think it

1502
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,840
was halfway through the game when you start fighting, uh,

1503
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:36,800
what were their names? The Something Maiden, the ones who

1504
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,520
stab themselves in the stomach to gain.

1505
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 4: The oh, the the they get like six armor.

1506
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,359
Speaker 1: Yes, and if you you have to jump to dodge

1507
01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:45,800
the swipe, and then if.

1508
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,319
Speaker 4: The third one you can block, block and then jump.

1509
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: I think something like No, there's one where they stab

1510
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,600
themselves and they pull it out and just swipe and

1511
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:59,359
you jump. I've never tried jumping. So if you what

1512
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:04,000
happens if you Harriet does one character counter attack, it

1513
01:10:04,079 --> 01:10:05,880
just acts like a normal Perry, like any other perry,

1514
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,680
which is one you don't take, you don't take damage.

1515
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:13,760
And yeah, okay, so that's what's cool. If you jump,

1516
01:10:14,079 --> 01:10:18,159
if you do the jump and R two, yeah, all

1517
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:20,079
three of them will hit them. It'll count as three

1518
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:22,760
hits and they'll lose three shields. Oh that's it. And

1519
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,880
I learned that on accident because at a certain point,

1520
01:10:27,159 --> 01:10:28,760
I'm trying to think of how I can explain this

1521
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,119
because I realize I'm like, oh fuck, I actually stand

1522
01:10:31,119 --> 01:10:33,279
to benefit more from not attacking them right now. What

1523
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:38,920
was it? Oh? Okay, so I realized, okay, I'm about

1524
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:43,359
to hit them. They have on one shield left right now.

1525
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,079
I know they're about to do the stab themselves in

1526
01:10:45,079 --> 01:10:50,319
the stomach and swipe, so they'll have four shields. And

1527
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,840
if I were to attack right now with Mile, Mile

1528
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,479
doesn't have that many multi hit moves. She has several.

1529
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,720
She's got the one that does fire damage or whatever,

1530
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:04,079
and that's like two or three hits. But the fourth

1531
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:06,880
character you get, she has a lot of multi hit attacks.

1532
01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:11,319
So if I use that ability of Miles to just

1533
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,640
gain three AP and not even hit the maiden, and

1534
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:19,279
I'll stay in virtuoso. They'll all jump counter attack, that'll lose.

1535
01:11:19,359 --> 01:11:22,399
That'll basically almost cancel out the stab themselves in the

1536
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,640
stomach attack because they'll do three armor damage. My next

1537
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,840
character will then do her like four move attack, the

1538
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,840
armor will be gone, Miles primed to just assassinate them

1539
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,159
with puss. So it's like, oh, I actually stand to

1540
01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:40,439
benefit more from not just all out normal attacking them

1541
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,439
right now, because otherwise I'm wasting myles stance and AP

1542
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,319
and whatnot. So I'm going to bide her time use

1543
01:11:46,359 --> 01:11:49,279
my character that's got the double edged Darth maul sythe

1544
01:11:49,359 --> 01:11:52,319
who can do more armor damage one way.

1545
01:11:52,359 --> 01:11:57,159
Speaker 4: Like that's my party is like say the names, Yeah,

1546
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,720
I do, Verso cl A and my l are my three,

1547
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:02,560
and I've kind of just.

1548
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,159
Speaker 1: Sorry Verso Cel and my oh so you don't you

1549
01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:07,359
you got you got rid of Lunae.

1550
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Luna and then weird fucking face mask

1551
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,840
guy or whatever, like they've got some interesting stuff going on,

1552
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,000
but like that's my main three right now.

1553
01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I Cel was one of those ones where oh

1554
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,000
I had a dumb moment with cel I was like, wow,

1555
01:12:20,039 --> 01:12:23,680
she is very weak. I didn't realize they did not

1556
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,920
auto assign her stat points when I got her my party,

1557
01:12:27,239 --> 01:12:32,279
I already just sitting there. She was tough to figure out.

1558
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,920
But once you figure her out, and again, like each character,

1559
01:12:35,079 --> 01:12:36,560
like oh god, I got to wrap my head around

1560
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,399
an entire new battle system for this each character, she

1561
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,479
was awesome, like the cool interplay. Basically, you're trying to

1562
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,880
build up two currencies with her, so it's like, Okay,

1563
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,399
I'm trying to build out the light and dark to

1564
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,640
enter Twilight when they're even, but also spending this one

1565
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,840
is going to generate this spending that's going to generate

1566
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,520
something else, so you really are thinking about it starts

1567
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:57,760
getting you in that chest mindset.

1568
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,079
Speaker 4: It is very complicated where it's like, okay, well, if

1569
01:13:00,119 --> 01:13:01,960
I'm in Twilight, I can build up to twenty four

1570
01:13:02,079 --> 01:13:03,800
tail on this. So when I'm in Twilight, that's when

1571
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,600
I want to build up foretel and then I will

1572
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,640
you know, extinguish the stuff and then gain Twilight again.

1573
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,640
Like it's it took me a while. That was one

1574
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,680
where I was about to be like this is too confusing,

1575
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,800
but I just kind of bird forced understanding it, and

1576
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,119
I'm glad I did because.

1577
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: She's also just cool. Her double edged scythes are really cool,

1578
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,720
but like she's awesome. That's I bring up a lootro

1579
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,560
just because that game, like I will say, it's not

1580
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,399
as gradual or as masterful of a ramp up as

1581
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:33,199
Billatro is to how you can break the game, but

1582
01:13:33,239 --> 01:13:35,640
the tools are there for you to just dismantle the

1583
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,119
game if you want to. I will say, like once

1584
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:41,920
I really really started, like I was staring at the

1585
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,039
illuminae screen for a while, and what else are they

1586
01:13:46,079 --> 01:13:49,840
called the portos or no, I'm playing something elsetose pictos.

1587
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,680
I'll stare at the pictose screen for a while. I'm like, okay,

1588
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,680
would she benefit from this? And then there's the cool

1589
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,640
system where basically if someone uses that pictos in several

1590
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,960
successful battles, he then unlock it as a permanent past,

1591
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,960
which is great. So then you're just kind of like, Okay, well,

1592
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,479
I don't want to spend seven on of my illuminates

1593
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,279
on this. I want to just or I don't want

1594
01:14:10,279 --> 01:14:12,800
to spend seven on, so I'll actively equip it and

1595
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,199
then I'll use that these the rest of these luminates

1596
01:14:15,239 --> 01:14:18,680
to passively equip these other ones. This all probably makes

1597
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,000
way more sense if you play the game and or

1598
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,399
look at that screen, but that's the best I can

1599
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,399
describe it. So then it's like I've spent. There's been

1600
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,399
sessions where I sit down to play it and I

1601
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,560
spent And this might not sound that fun, but it

1602
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,039
was to me. I spent like seventy five percent of

1603
01:14:31,079 --> 01:14:35,079
the two hours, like theory crafting the characters and like, uh,

1604
01:14:35,119 --> 01:14:37,000
would this really work, and then trying it out and

1605
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,239
be like all right, well, I still kick the shit

1606
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:39,479
out of them, but like I still feel like I

1607
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,840
could push this mid max it to the Mac, like

1608
01:14:43,079 --> 01:14:46,880
just all out in order to really use these characters

1609
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,840
how I feel like they should be well.

1610
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,359
Speaker 4: And speaking of that, like, am I correct in like

1611
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,800
thinking that you can't go more than nine nine nine

1612
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,840
nine damage in a single attack, like a single I've

1613
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,319
never seen higher than that, like a single like a hack,

1614
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,039
like when I do like, oh they're marked in on

1615
01:15:04,079 --> 01:15:07,079
fire and I use my l's sword pillar thing, I've

1616
01:15:07,119 --> 01:15:09,239
never seen a number higher than nine nine ninety nine

1617
01:15:09,319 --> 01:15:11,439
as the attack, which is confusing me because I feel like,

1618
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:12,760
I've heard a lot of people be like I was

1619
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,920
over leveled. I one shot of the boss, and I've

1620
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,399
been picturing like, oh, you killed the boss with the

1621
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,359
one hit. But I'm like, wait, it seems like ten

1622
01:15:19,399 --> 01:15:21,439
thousand is about the most you can do. Does that

1623
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,039
mean that just in one turn before the boss could attack? Like,

1624
01:15:24,039 --> 01:15:29,039
I'm confused by that. I don't know what have you

1625
01:15:29,079 --> 01:15:30,800
done damage more than ten thousand?

1626
01:15:31,119 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: I want to say, yeah, but maybe I'm just imagining it.

1627
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:35,560
But to me, one shotting a boss means you beat

1628
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,960
them on the first tryst attack or first turn. No

1629
01:15:39,119 --> 01:15:41,920
one shot what I don't know. One shot has never

1630
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,000
applied to a turn based game for me. One shot

1631
01:15:44,039 --> 01:15:46,720
in a souls born game to me is you beat

1632
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,159
them on the first try. Oh okay, well if that's

1633
01:15:50,199 --> 01:15:52,920
the I don't know how your point in your defense,

1634
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,479
I don't know what those people mean in terms of

1635
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:55,199
a turn based game.

1636
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,359
Speaker 4: I didn't know that was like a souls burn term

1637
01:15:57,399 --> 01:15:59,279
for first try. That's probably what it might I mean.

1638
01:15:59,319 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: I think it just goes back to the days where

1639
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:02,359
any boss fight, if you beat them on the first try,

1640
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,319
was a one first try. Okay, yeah, just first try you're.

1641
01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:07,159
Speaker 2: Both right, thank you, Mary.

1642
01:16:07,399 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean like for real, because you can't

1643
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:15,680
get more damage until a certain point.

1644
01:16:16,119 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: Oh well, maybe I have got to that point, that's why.

1645
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,840
Or is it new plus maybe you can go above that?

1646
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,479
Maybe that would make sense if there is a new

1647
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,039
gad bus. I actually don't know. Yeah, I'm glad you're

1648
01:16:28,039 --> 01:16:31,880
playing the game. Do you do you foresee this opening up?

1649
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,800
You're like maybe trying out more turn based games in

1650
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,239
the future, or is this one so specific blend of

1651
01:16:38,279 --> 01:16:39,000
real time term.

1652
01:16:40,119 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 2: Special it does that it's not annoying.

1653
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, is like it's doing several things

1654
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,199
that make me open to it where it is got

1655
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:49,319
the kind of command based stuff where I'm doing things

1656
01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:51,399
in the middle of the fight, which keeps me engaged.

1657
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,960
But also it's not just like fantasy tropes. I think

1658
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,640
that's a big thing that has kept me from liking

1659
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,119
a lot of these is I don't give a fuck

1660
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:01,479
about swords and a kingdom and mages and stuff as

1661
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,079
much like this is like a cool setting, and like

1662
01:17:04,359 --> 01:17:07,760
it sets up this entirely like this very original cool

1663
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,760
setup of you know, the PAINTERSS and the number and

1664
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,680
all that stuff, Like I think that's so cool where

1665
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,239
it's like every fucking traditional not everyone obviously, you know,

1666
01:17:16,279 --> 01:17:17,880
like I like Corona Trigger that's kind of a different

1667
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,920
setup and everything, Like I have like jay Air produced

1668
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,800
in the past, but anytime it's just like, oh, here's

1669
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,359
the king and here's though it's the most powerful wizard,

1670
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,359
and there would be dragons, and it's like I don't

1671
01:17:27,399 --> 01:17:32,479
fucking care. I just don't care a And then it's

1672
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,119
kind of the same way I would view zombie stuff,

1673
01:17:34,119 --> 01:17:35,880
where it's like I've seen this shit a million times.

1674
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,199
It's never been interesting to me. I don't want to

1675
01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:39,760
keep seeing it. So it's like when this starts with

1676
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:44,920
a completely unique story and characters in a storyline, it's.

1677
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: Like, oh this, this is new to me.

1678
01:17:46,039 --> 01:17:48,079
Speaker 4: This is cool, Like I can get into it, but

1679
01:17:48,359 --> 01:17:51,600
I am immediately turned off by just like fantasy trope

1680
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,079
turn based RBG stuff, so like a Dragon Quest or something,

1681
01:17:55,159 --> 01:17:59,119
or most final fantasies I'm just not into. I've tried.

1682
01:17:59,319 --> 01:18:02,760
I've tried so many fucking final fantasies just because it's like, look,

1683
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,039
I know this is a pillar of gaming history, but

1684
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,520
most of them I just don't like playing at all.

1685
01:18:10,199 --> 01:18:11,800
But like you know, Final Fantasy fifteen, it's like, oh,

1686
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,600
it's like a road trip. You're driving around the car,

1687
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,159
and it's more it's not turn based and stuff like Okay,

1688
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:18,520
that seems interesting, and I'll play like five hours of

1689
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,479
it and be like, eh, whatever, it's earth Bound. I

1690
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,520
want to try because that seems like it's a different

1691
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,119
It is like that the combat seems very traditional JRBG

1692
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:29,600
turn based, but the wrappings of it seems so much

1693
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:33,359
more interesting sci fi suburt have you tried? Yeah, I

1694
01:18:33,399 --> 01:18:35,520
review the DS one. I review the d S one

1695
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,399
and I loved it. I thought it was great.

1696
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,279
Speaker 2: Chrono trigger I feel like is a way to escape.

1697
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And that's the thing I don't dislike every JRPG,

1698
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:46,600
And like, you know, technically, you know those Mario Luigi's

1699
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,600
and paper Mario is. Granted, it's got the Mario factor

1700
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,399
going on, but I think more importantly it's got the

1701
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,279
actual like kind of active stuff during the battles. You know,

1702
01:18:53,319 --> 01:18:55,680
That's the key thing for me. And I don't think

1703
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,159
it's ever been better than I'm seeing in Clare Obscure.

1704
01:18:59,399 --> 01:19:02,199
Like I I find the battles thrilling, like if I

1705
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:05,479
finish a story type beat. I will just fucking hop

1706
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,479
on that fucking Ska is back and sail around and

1707
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,760
fight every fucking Why did why did Mike Mahrty just

1708
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,159
change my zoom name to David Buddy?

1709
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:18,079
Speaker 1: Can you do before? Todd? Ghak? Who's that? Just Seinfeld

1710
01:19:18,119 --> 01:19:19,079
supporting characters?

1711
01:19:19,359 --> 01:19:25,199
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, Ska by the way, I love that dude,

1712
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:30,239
that Mike. Do you the optional thing with the wine Mike?

1713
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: No?

1714
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,119
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Mike, there's like a campfire thing. Because

1715
01:19:34,119 --> 01:19:36,239
I always talked to everyone of the campfire and check

1716
01:19:36,279 --> 01:19:40,079
in on everyone. There was just a scene where it's like, ESK,

1717
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,199
I forgot what spurred this on, but Versa was just like,

1718
01:19:43,279 --> 01:19:46,159
oh yeah, I guess I'll tell you. Guys, like I

1719
01:19:46,279 --> 01:19:49,560
keep all my wine and inside SKA it's about like

1720
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:50,760
very fine vintages.

1721
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,520
Speaker 1: And someone mentions to me, I don't know how I

1722
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,199
didn't come across. I guess he's just like.

1723
01:19:54,119 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 4: Puking up wine into glasses and stuff like cl goes up,

1724
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,560
and it was like, fill me up. Why comes out

1725
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,680
of him? Because Verso keeps all this ship in him.

1726
01:20:04,279 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: It's really good. It's rocky mind of my stomach. I

1727
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,840
there's a wine thing in Destreating two that I noticed

1728
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:16,880
as well. We'll get to that. But yeah, well, I

1729
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:22,800
there's there's one game, so Octopath Traveler too. I think,

1730
01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:25,880
oh you did. Did you play the first one?

1731
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 4: I loved that one, I didn't beat it, and I

1732
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,079
didn't really do the second one.

1733
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,520
Speaker 1: Try the second one out when you get the chance.

1734
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,319
The combat is just as crunchy like for a turn

1735
01:20:36,359 --> 01:20:41,720
based game. It's it's intricate. I think the storylines avoid

1736
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,399
tropes pretty well. Eight different characters you can start with,

1737
01:20:44,399 --> 01:20:46,760
and then you're building up the party and each there's

1738
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,199
a lot of side quests you're doing as you go

1739
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:50,800
around the world. So try that out because I think

1740
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,720
that's got enough active stuff going on that the combat

1741
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,039
might appeal to you in the way.

1742
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 4: That I really like the first one.

1743
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,520
Speaker 1: That Try the second one. It's it's it blows up

1744
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:05,399
the first one basically. Okay, Yeah, so I'm about I

1745
01:21:05,399 --> 01:21:08,359
think the hour count is something like twelve. In Death

1746
01:21:08,399 --> 01:21:12,079
Stranding two, I'm halfway across Australia. Halfway across Australia based

1747
01:21:12,119 --> 01:21:15,039
on the map. The last Cupid I connected or Cupid

1748
01:21:15,039 --> 01:21:16,119
I used to connect.

1749
01:21:16,079 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 4: We should probably say spoiler's also for des stranding here.

1750
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,399
So do you know what act you're in or what

1751
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:21,159
chapter you're in?

1752
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: Three?

1753
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,279
Speaker 4: You're in only in three?

1754
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah? So okay, so the first one was just

1755
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:31,720
called Sam, second one was Lou, the third was h.

1756
01:21:32,079 --> 01:21:32,520
I can't remember.

1757
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 4: It's fragile or something, so you had it. You don't

1758
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:40,000
know Neil much at all yet, m Okay, there's really

1759
01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:40,600
good stuff here.

1760
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're looking at the map, you know how

1761
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,960
when you you you insert the cupid or let it

1762
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,439
hover whatever, and it connects. The map shows basically almost

1763
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:50,760
half of Australia.

1764
01:21:51,319 --> 01:21:56,239
Speaker 4: That's so confusedograph because I feel like, wow, I feel

1765
01:21:56,239 --> 01:21:57,680
like it didn't take long to be in like acts

1766
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,760
six or chapter six or seven, just the you must

1767
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:01,880
be doing a weird No.

1768
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: I might be. I might be passed because like act Lou,

1769
01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:07,640
Act two or three was really quick. It was like

1770
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,720
three cuts, scene two things. Yeah, act four, So I might.

1771
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,439
I don't know, I might not have been paying enough attention.

1772
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 4: But if you haven't done any like Neil flashback, or

1773
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,760
like you haven't done any boss fights with No, so.

1774
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,359
Speaker 1: I know I've seen some of the area, so I

1775
01:22:22,359 --> 01:22:24,439
guess without spoiling anything, if you played the first game,

1776
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,760
you do all that, Mads Michelson, flash back to different

1777
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:33,199
American wars. I've seen some landscape stuff from like random

1778
01:22:33,239 --> 01:22:36,319
thumbnails and videos of what it looks like in this game.

1779
01:22:36,359 --> 01:22:38,439
To go back to those, it's like that Tetris effect

1780
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:43,960
looking whatever like. But no, I it tells me the

1781
01:22:44,039 --> 01:22:46,199
last time I connected someone to the chiral network that

1782
01:22:46,279 --> 01:22:49,560
I'm like eleven twelve hours in and it looks like

1783
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,880
half of Australia based on the Blue versus Red.

1784
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 4: Wow, that's wild that you're that far across Australia because

1785
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,119
I feel like that was like thirty to forty hours

1786
01:22:57,159 --> 01:22:57,520
in for me.

1787
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: Huh, maybe I'm farther. I don't know. Maybe I don't know.

1788
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,399
Speaker 4: Are you just connecting stuff or you? Because I've done

1789
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,159
this twice now between this and the trip I went

1790
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:10,720
to com Gamer Productions. If you didn't know, I don't know.

1791
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,359
Speaker 1: I could turn my PlayStation on show you the map,

1792
01:23:12,399 --> 01:23:14,600
I guess, but it's I believe you. But that's you know,

1793
01:23:15,319 --> 01:23:17,560
a different path. No, I don't think that would work

1794
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,600
because they tell you like the ones to connect are like,

1795
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,600
you don't get that many places from my understanding where

1796
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,520
you can branch off and go. You could branch off,

1797
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,920
but it seems like the places that you're actually connecting

1798
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,239
and revealing on the map, connecting to the chiral network,

1799
01:23:30,319 --> 01:23:31,239
that's pretty scripted.

1800
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 4: That's what I thought. Yeah, so I thought you would be.

1801
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm over exaggerating when I say half, but

1802
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,039
it looks like I've done definitely the Western Okay, let's

1803
01:23:39,039 --> 01:23:39,359
say third.

1804
01:23:39,399 --> 01:23:44,159
Speaker 4: Have you done monorail stuff? No, you're You've barely eaked

1805
01:23:44,199 --> 01:23:44,960
into Australia.

1806
01:23:45,119 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 1: It sounds like ten hours.

1807
01:23:47,079 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like Mexico, I said, was like seven

1808
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,159
to eight hours in you keep mind, this is like

1809
01:23:52,199 --> 01:23:53,720
a sixty hour game.

1810
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,279
Speaker 1: Mexico did not feel eight hours to me. I trust

1811
01:23:57,279 --> 01:24:00,359
your opinion, I trust your your call. I'm just didn't

1812
01:24:00,359 --> 01:24:00,800
feel like that.

1813
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,159
Speaker 4: I just don't think you are as far in Australia

1814
01:24:03,159 --> 01:24:03,800
as you think you are.

1815
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's good to know. I'm gonna put this

1816
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,479
out there and please feel free or spawn however you want.

1817
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:14,439
So far, I think this game is fine. Okay, I

1818
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:20,800
think it's Mary's big words.

1819
01:24:22,039 --> 01:24:23,039
Speaker 2: Better back that up.

1820
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I'm have to be clear. I'm having

1821
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,159
a lot of fun playing it, and I think that's

1822
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:31,039
the most important thing. And there are plenty of times

1823
01:24:31,079 --> 01:24:33,439
where I get a new tool or a new ability

1824
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,880
or something I didn't even realize was possible in how

1825
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,319
these systems overlap and the mechanics interconnect, and I'm like,

1826
01:24:39,199 --> 01:24:44,640
what the fuck that's awesome. The thing for me is

1827
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,039
And obviously I couldn't stand the first game when I

1828
01:24:48,079 --> 01:24:50,119
played in twenty nineteen that if oh I grew as

1829
01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:51,760
a person? I wrote a review about it, and then

1830
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,840
twenty twenty one rolled around, Yeah, Mary, when are you

1831
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,399
going to join the club? Yeah?

1832
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 2: I never grow, that's my secret.

1833
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: And I played in twenty twenty one. I'm like, ah, fuck,

1834
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,199
I'm in I don't know why. I'm in a different headspace.

1835
01:25:02,239 --> 01:25:04,039
Maybe fucking COVID like lulled me.

1836
01:25:04,279 --> 01:25:07,319
Speaker 4: You were you were thinking about the American Dream writ large.

1837
01:25:07,079 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: Exactly, and I was thinking about me and how I

1838
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,720
grew as a person and how like I didn't really

1839
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,760
put much trust in like the you know, I didn't

1840
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,640
put much. I forgot what the fuck I wrote. But

1841
01:25:17,359 --> 01:25:19,600
I it's so funny to me that the first game

1842
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:23,039
is like, you're gonna be fourteen hours in before you

1843
01:25:23,079 --> 01:25:26,319
get any real weapon to fight bandits and then this

1844
01:25:26,399 --> 01:25:28,840
game and let me I'm gonna say some stuff, and

1845
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,960
then I'm gonna say I get why this happened. It's like, hey,

1846
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,119
here's an assault rifle right off the bat. Here are

1847
01:25:34,279 --> 01:25:36,439
there are twelve enemies in this base right over here.

1848
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,239
Two is so much more of a video game right

1849
01:25:40,279 --> 01:25:43,439
away than the first game is. So I'm not I

1850
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:47,039
I appreciate that. I like it's it's two is more

1851
01:25:47,199 --> 01:25:49,000
fun right away, yeah, which is great.

1852
01:25:49,079 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 4: It's handing you like here's a trink grenade launcher, which

1853
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,600
I just laughed when I saw that. I was like, okay,

1854
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,039
I'm shooting a grenade launcher and a dude's body is

1855
01:25:57,079 --> 01:25:59,000
flying three feet and it's like he's sleepy.

1856
01:25:59,239 --> 01:26:06,520
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not lethal. It's fine. I the first game

1857
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,159
was one of those things where I'm like, Okay, I

1858
01:26:08,199 --> 01:26:10,760
don't think I really liked the last four hours I played.

1859
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,439
Then I zoom out and I'm like, yeah, I actually

1860
01:26:13,119 --> 01:26:14,960
kind of did. It was this really bold game that, like,

1861
01:26:15,119 --> 01:26:17,000
you know, you look at the game as a formula

1862
01:26:17,079 --> 01:26:21,840
or as a framework, it's like, oh, it's just glorified

1863
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:26,199
fetch quests that they ring a lot of a lot

1864
01:26:26,319 --> 01:26:30,279
of emergent gameplay out of and when you can't fight

1865
01:26:30,359 --> 01:26:32,000
people the whole time, and you have to be kind

1866
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,760
of stealthy, or you have to be crafty, or you

1867
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:37,560
have to think like someone who's not combat trained would.

1868
01:26:38,119 --> 01:26:40,680
I think that was the game and its best not

1869
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,560
to say. Like, especially in the director's cut, you get

1870
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,319
stuff to like canon cargo, which is great this game,

1871
01:26:47,399 --> 01:26:52,039
though I look at the formula of what I'm doing

1872
01:26:52,039 --> 01:26:56,720
in a big picture, it's not that dissimilar from a

1873
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:02,680
fucking Ubisoft open world. You are you are, you are

1874
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,960
traveling across this map. Clearing enemy bases is a big

1875
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:10,279
thing in this game. It's you don't have to, but

1876
01:27:10,399 --> 01:27:14,960
it's you have to go. The last four big objectives

1877
01:27:15,079 --> 01:27:19,640
I've had were to either sneak through an enemy base

1878
01:27:20,039 --> 01:27:25,920
and destroy this like Chiral disruptor, or clear the enemy base,

1879
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,560
collect cargo, and deliver that.

1880
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 4: It's not far right, though, I feel like you're making

1881
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,319
them sound like a far cry or something.

1882
01:27:33,319 --> 01:27:36,159
Speaker 1: I'm revealing the map by connecting it to the Kyrol network,

1883
01:27:36,319 --> 01:27:39,319
much like you would climb a tower in those games

1884
01:27:39,319 --> 01:27:41,399
and reveal part of the map that then allow.

1885
01:27:41,319 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 4: They're in bunkers, they're underground.

1886
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 1: That's the opposite of a tower. Again, Dan, I'm having

1887
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,199
a lot of fun playing this game. I'm not trying

1888
01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:47,920
to be a dick.

1889
01:27:48,039 --> 01:27:49,600
Speaker 4: And they look like, here's the thing I'm not going

1890
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:50,800
to I will take no offense.

1891
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,039
Speaker 1: I won't take like we're.

1892
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 2: In our goady discussions right now.

1893
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, do you see what I'm saying? Sort

1894
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,960
of though, Like as as a formula, you're crossing the

1895
01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:02,960
map and there's some enemy bases that take out or

1896
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,600
sneak around. And to be clear, I'm playing this game

1897
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,079
as a stealth game. I think this game is at

1898
01:28:06,119 --> 01:28:09,000
its best for me as a stealth game. I appreciate

1899
01:28:09,159 --> 01:28:14,560
good stealth games. But the stealth, the combat, the a

1900
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:18,840
lot of the way these systems are interacting. It's kind

1901
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,399
of an okay, open world game. I think in the minutia,

1902
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,960
this game is incredible. I think I think this is

1903
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,920
an amazing When you look at the gadgets, they give

1904
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,800
you the creative tools you have, Like I was clearing

1905
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:33,720
an enemy base, and again to your point, I didn't

1906
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:34,640
have to, but I was like, all R, I'm going

1907
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,399
to clear this out because I have not seen the

1908
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,600
ramifications of this. But they tell me if I leave

1909
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,760
some enemies alive, it'll still be just as dangerous next

1910
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,680
time I backtrack past it or go to it. So

1911
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,119
I'm like, Okay, I'd like it to be safe in

1912
01:28:48,119 --> 01:28:50,920
the future, so I'm going to or relatively yeah or

1913
01:28:51,039 --> 01:28:55,000
no it's not so so's it's very fun to me.

1914
01:28:55,039 --> 01:28:57,800
And I also say, I really do appreciate the vision

1915
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,680
cones of enemies. I think this game is pretty realistic

1916
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,439
in that, like, I really worry even if I'm like

1917
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,359
crouched on a ledge one hundred and fifty yards from someone,

1918
01:29:07,359 --> 01:29:09,279
if they're in a watchtower, I'm like, they can see

1919
01:29:09,279 --> 01:29:11,399
you in this game, which I love. That's refreshing because

1920
01:29:11,399 --> 01:29:12,960
a lot of games it's like, why does he not

1921
01:29:13,039 --> 01:29:18,000
see me? Anyway, I'm tranking a dude and it's loud,

1922
01:29:18,079 --> 01:29:21,000
and I'm actually the game is very clear. It's like

1923
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,359
you should have a relocation area planned because this is

1924
01:29:23,359 --> 01:29:27,119
all It's a trank sniper rifle, but it's loud. I

1925
01:29:27,239 --> 01:29:31,520
also conveniently attached this speed exoskeleton to me, so I

1926
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,920
trank someone and then I'm fucking sprinting like way too

1927
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,439
fast front of human It's awesome, Like and then I'm

1928
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,520
getting to another ridge and then he's getting too close

1929
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,199
to me, so I bowlug on his head and he

1930
01:29:40,239 --> 01:29:41,960
gets knocked out, and his friend comes to like kick

1931
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,039
him awake, and I javel in him with an electric spear,

1932
01:29:46,159 --> 01:29:49,000
and like, the game is constantly giving you new tools

1933
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,479
with which to do this stuff. The thing is that I,

1934
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,800
and I've said this before, the first game was at

1935
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,119
its best when you're finding the story through the systems,

1936
01:29:57,159 --> 01:29:58,920
in the emmergent story, at the gameplay and whatnot. It

1937
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,920
was amazing in that regard. I didn't care for the script.

1938
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,640
I think there's some funny, like bizarre shit going on

1939
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:08,159
that was like patent Lee Kojima, which is great. In

1940
01:30:08,279 --> 01:30:11,840
this game, though, you're like you're going and you're connecting

1941
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:16,800
this new area and it's a fucking hermit musician who

1942
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,760
goes out there. He went into commune with nature and

1943
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,399
see how it impacted his music, and then he got

1944
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:23,560
stranded during the death stranding and he's like, oh, thank

1945
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:25,199
you so much, Like it's so nice to be part

1946
01:30:25,199 --> 01:30:26,800
of Chirole network. Now I get shared with my music

1947
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,439
with anybody. Anyway. My friend's really into guns, So here's

1948
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:33,880
a shotgun schematic like what why did this musician? He

1949
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,680
should have given me something like a fucking guitar sniper

1950
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,279
rifle if anything. Well, and I and I'm and I'm

1951
01:30:40,399 --> 01:30:42,760
it's funny, like I'm having fun with this game despite itself.

1952
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:48,119
But I have to say it does feel like a

1953
01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:51,159
sophomore slump. I do hope. I do hope there's a

1954
01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:53,640
Death Stranding three. I'm assuming there will be, because I.

1955
01:30:53,359 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 4: I don't know there will. I hope he's got od

1956
01:30:57,039 --> 01:31:01,199
infision in the chamber. Yeah, GQ interviews talking about like

1957
01:31:01,239 --> 01:31:03,000
these games are like three or four years and I'm old.

1958
01:31:03,399 --> 01:31:06,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing, Like I look at Destreating

1959
01:31:06,119 --> 01:31:08,279
two compared to the first one, and make no mistake,

1960
01:31:08,359 --> 01:31:11,479
I think as like this game gets so much more fun,

1961
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,039
so much sooner than the first game. Yeah, but the

1962
01:31:14,039 --> 01:31:16,920
first game is such a weird, unyieldy beast with such

1963
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,880
weird friction against the player, and like, I hate it,

1964
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,520
but I also love it. And then you're not wrong.

1965
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 4: And that is what pushed me away from the first

1966
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,720
one to begin with, is it is like going against

1967
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,560
the player and like I hated falling down Like in

1968
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,279
the first one, I was doing so much more falling

1969
01:31:32,359 --> 01:31:34,680
down and I fucking went across the river.

1970
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:35,199
Speaker 1: I shouldn't.

1971
01:31:35,319 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 4: Now I'm watching all of my shit go down the

1972
01:31:37,039 --> 01:31:40,640
river and it's infuriating but also interesting. This one is

1973
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,560
way more of just a video game, for sure, and

1974
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,920
I think that's why there wasn't that friction with me

1975
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:45,279
this time.

1976
01:31:45,399 --> 01:31:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't. I like, It's like, I love

1977
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,920
that you can get a coffin to surf on tar

1978
01:31:51,039 --> 01:31:54,720
with and stuff, and it's like, but then you accidentally

1979
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,560
kill someone and you're like, well, fuck going by the

1980
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,279
first game is logic, and by the logic of this world,

1981
01:31:59,279 --> 01:32:01,840
I now have to wit find an incinerator to avoid

1982
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:03,319
avoid out, so I assumed I would have to bring

1983
01:32:03,359 --> 01:32:05,960
them back to like the Magellan at the least. It's like, no,

1984
01:32:06,079 --> 01:32:07,720
the coffin can actually just go down to the ground,

1985
01:32:08,079 --> 01:32:11,960
great quality of life thing. But I kind of would

1986
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,319
have preferred the long journey to avoid this thing. And

1987
01:32:15,399 --> 01:32:17,279
again that's just my taste in games. Like I love

1988
01:32:17,319 --> 01:32:19,720
fucking State of the K two. I love that shit

1989
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,000
that like is Dragon's Dogma two. I love the stuff

1990
01:32:23,039 --> 01:32:25,439
that's a pain, but it was a good story, So

1991
01:32:26,399 --> 01:32:28,479
it's just I don't know. I play this game, and

1992
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,720
it almost feels like, and I'm this is very unfair.

1993
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,560
I don't fucking know the guy. I think I've met

1994
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,239
him once and we talked about Metal Grosel three. It

1995
01:32:36,319 --> 01:32:39,960
just feels like Kojima and Kojuma Productions they cared about

1996
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,199
this game a little bit less than the first one.

1997
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,560
And again that right, right, that's my point. It's like

1998
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,640
the first one, it's like they had this like it's

1999
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,399
like it's almost like a debut work in a way.

2000
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,119
The first one it's like this thing, like you could

2001
01:32:53,159 --> 01:32:56,800
tell that was percolating their brains forever and they finally

2002
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,359
got it out. They're like, we don't care. And then

2003
01:32:58,399 --> 01:33:00,319
you see those stories before two came out, it's like

2004
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,600
Kochimo's disappointed that it wasn't that divisive. I'm like, oh

2005
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,159
my god, fucking grow up, dude. Oh people like your game.

2006
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:08,119
Then it came out, I'm like, I kind of actually

2007
01:33:08,199 --> 01:33:10,840
might have seen what he's saying. It's like, it really

2008
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:15,319
is kind of triple a ass video game design. Sure,

2009
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,359
there is a fucking skateboarding coffin that can dip into

2010
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:23,000
ink to to dispose of potentially time bomb explosive bodies.

2011
01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:24,680
You say, a lot of this stuff out loud. You're like,

2012
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,000
this is a really unique game, but you look at

2013
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:31,159
it like a storyboard on a storyboard. It's actually it's

2014
01:33:31,159 --> 01:33:34,319
actually a pretty generic Triple A game so far. I'm

2015
01:33:34,359 --> 01:33:37,319
only twelve I'm only twelve hours in. I want to

2016
01:33:37,319 --> 01:33:38,239
go and I want to play more.

2017
01:33:38,279 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 4: To be clear, so you're saying, like, let's say, okay,

2018
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,279
all the like it's a wire framed out so you know,

2019
01:33:43,319 --> 01:33:45,279
none of the visual stuff or whatever. It's if you're

2020
01:33:45,279 --> 01:33:47,560
talking about what you are doing moment to moment in

2021
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,359
this game. Take out the cut scenes. Like I see

2022
01:33:50,399 --> 01:33:50,880
what you're saying.

2023
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:51,199
Speaker 7: I do.

2024
01:33:51,399 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't mean it's an it's alt like I think

2025
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,560
there's a like I just it feels like I don't

2026
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,359
know if Sony said, like, hey, make it a bit

2027
01:33:57,359 --> 01:33:59,640
more palatable so we can get another ten million players,

2028
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:03,039
or like they're like, hey, I liked that first game,

2029
01:34:03,119 --> 01:34:04,640
let's build on it in a way that brings more

2030
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:06,399
people in. I don't know, Like the first game just

2031
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:09,520
almost felt like a I don't I don't care what

2032
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,640
you think, and like that's it's funny because lately I

2033
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,720
don't want those kind of games that do have that friction.

2034
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:15,840
I want the fun game. That's why I'm enjoying Death

2035
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,960
Stranding too. But it does it's so different than the

2036
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:19,520
first game.

2037
01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:22,640
Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily going to disagree with anything you said

2038
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,119
and in fact talking about like the uh you brought up,

2039
01:34:26,199 --> 01:34:28,960
like you know, immersive gameplay and comparing to other open

2040
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,920
world games, it's not like I don't think it's that

2041
01:34:33,159 --> 01:34:36,079
amazing in terms of like immersive or emergent sorry, emergent

2042
01:34:36,079 --> 01:34:38,680
gameplay where it's like, you know, I when I think

2043
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,199
of that, I think of breadth the wild, you know,

2044
01:34:40,239 --> 01:34:41,800
I think a Tiers of the Kingdom where it's like

2045
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:42,760
I wonder if I could do this.

2046
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:43,359
Speaker 1: And this and that.

2047
01:34:43,399 --> 01:34:45,239
Speaker 4: Fuck, oh wow, that works so crazy. Like there's so

2048
01:34:45,239 --> 01:34:48,119
many like telling your own stories through your actions in

2049
01:34:48,199 --> 01:34:51,079
the open world. There isn't that much of it in

2050
01:34:51,159 --> 01:34:53,000
Death Straining too, Like there are a lot of like

2051
01:34:53,119 --> 01:34:55,520
very funny like oh, I'm wearing this VTuber hat and

2052
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,279
now Sam only says peco and you know, there's there's

2053
01:34:58,319 --> 01:35:00,840
a lot of quirks, but as far as the moment

2054
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,720
to moment what you're doing, you're right, Like when you

2055
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,760
are going to a base, like I'm typically building a

2056
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,159
watch tower, I'm tagging guys. Yeah, almost like a far

2057
01:35:07,239 --> 01:35:09,279
cry and I'm sneaking in my self fails and I

2058
01:35:09,319 --> 01:35:12,399
shoot everyone. Like yeah, I could actually, I could totally

2059
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:16,439
see that it doesn't have like there are interesting physics

2060
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:20,359
and interactions, but it's nowhere near on the level of like,

2061
01:35:20,359 --> 01:35:21,760
you know, a breath the wild. I don't think it's

2062
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,640
trying to do that. I think what makes the Stranding

2063
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,840
stand apart is is, for lack of a better term,

2064
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,479
like just that Kajema factor where it's like that guy

2065
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,800
has an eye for just style. Where it's like every

2066
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,760
fucking time I'm approaching a new you know, terminal or

2067
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,039
whatever you want to call it, or station and it

2068
01:35:41,159 --> 01:35:44,000
you know, pans out and it's playing whatever's on kajamas

2069
01:35:44,039 --> 01:35:47,920
Spotify playlist, and it's just like there's really nothing like.

2070
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:48,520
Speaker 1: That, you know.

2071
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 4: Like it makes me feel a way that like I

2072
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,159
have not played games that are like this where I

2073
01:35:53,199 --> 01:35:55,600
feel like it is just so that game is dripping

2074
01:35:55,680 --> 01:36:00,279
with one person's creative vision, you know. But you are right,

2075
01:36:00,399 --> 01:36:04,399
it is more palatable in the sense that like, yeah,

2076
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:06,239
you're just getting a bunch of cool guns and stuff,

2077
01:36:06,279 --> 01:36:08,920
and like even the like delivering stuff, which was the

2078
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,079
kind of hurdle people had to get over in the

2079
01:36:11,079 --> 01:36:14,000
first one. It's not bad in this one. You're most

2080
01:36:14,039 --> 01:36:16,159
of my times like on highways. It's you know, like

2081
01:36:16,239 --> 01:36:18,520
I'll build my zip line network. It's totally fine. They

2082
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,159
even like introduce stuff like the monorail system and stuff

2083
01:36:21,159 --> 01:36:24,239
to make it easier to move like large amounts of stuff,

2084
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:26,600
and I never really engaged with that. But the actual

2085
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:30,840
delivery aspect of the game, while still there, is not

2086
01:36:31,079 --> 01:36:35,439
nearly as like in your face butting up against you

2087
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:39,079
as as it intentionally was in the first game. And

2088
01:36:39,199 --> 01:36:40,920
so you're right, it is. It is a game that

2089
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:42,840
like you can load up and like people ask me if,

2090
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,079
like do I have to play the first game, and

2091
01:36:44,199 --> 01:36:47,319
like not, really, it does feel like the first one

2092
01:36:47,359 --> 01:36:49,319
to your point, Mike, is like that's the one where

2093
01:36:49,319 --> 01:36:51,880
they had a bunch of crazy ass ideas and their

2094
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:55,640
whole like idea of the world and establishing what Kyrillium

2095
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:57,840
is and the beach and just you know, what these

2096
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,640
extinction events are like that was very heavy on explaining

2097
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:02,600
like what the fuck is this, what's the crypto bio,

2098
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,319
what's this thing? And now all that stuff's established, and

2099
01:37:05,359 --> 01:37:07,319
now it's like, all right, you're in that weird world.

2100
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,279
Here's some guns, go have fun. Here's a coffin board.

2101
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,319
And I think, I like, I think this was the

2102
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,079
right mix of that.

2103
01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 1: It's more balanced, like I don't want to say objectively,

2104
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,640
but it's it's to me, it's it's almost objectively more balanced.

2105
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,840
But I love the moments where you're you're creeping through

2106
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:28,279
areas infested by BT's like watchers. That was terrifying. I

2107
01:37:28,319 --> 01:37:31,960
love that because that's unique. I will say, like doll

2108
01:37:32,039 --> 01:37:34,800
Man's amazing. But the mechanic they introduce where you could

2109
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,920
throw him in the air and scout, that's that's Assassin's

2110
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,800
creed throw it. That's the eagle in the air scouting.

2111
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:41,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a lot cooler than the eagle.

2112
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: I know he is, for sure.

2113
01:37:43,039 --> 01:37:45,319
Speaker 4: Eagle will fucking give you like little therapy sessions in

2114
01:37:45,359 --> 01:37:46,079
the private bunk.

2115
01:37:46,119 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 1: And I love the blinking on this the entire screen

2116
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:50,119
of your TV. It's good.

2117
01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:52,199
Speaker 4: And then every time you pull them back, he's so desperate.

2118
01:37:52,399 --> 01:37:54,720
Did I do a good job, Sam? Oh you did great, buddy,

2119
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:55,239
you did great.

2120
01:37:55,359 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 1: Zooming back to he's like stick a fork in me. Sam,

2121
01:37:58,279 --> 01:38:00,479
I don't even know what the fuck that means. I

2122
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,960
just love that he says that. Okay, but but yeah,

2123
01:38:03,039 --> 01:38:06,359
I I but that kind of speaks to my point.

2124
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,960
It's almost like a it feels like, you know what,

2125
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,560
I'm reminded of often when I'm playing this game, and this

2126
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:14,199
was kind of the case of the first game, but

2127
01:38:14,279 --> 01:38:17,520
especially this one. It's the Gremlins to Key and Peel

2128
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,640
Sketch where they're in. It's like, what if you have

2129
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:22,560
a doll you throw in the air and he's basically

2130
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:24,680
the Eagle from Assassin's Creed but he blinks and says

2131
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,720
really like witty ship. But then he like scans out

2132
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:29,640
of me for you. Yes, yes, I love it. Yes,

2133
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:31,920
It's like what if you skateboard on a coffin like

2134
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,479
a hoverboard, and then you can we bring the Fourth

2135
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:40,119
Wall and hould Cocain's there? What Crimlins? I thought he was.

2136
01:38:43,319 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 3: That's actually a funny mini game, Grimlins to Death Stranding.

2137
01:38:49,199 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh remind me. During the email section I did, just

2138
01:38:53,199 --> 01:38:55,239
a lot of people wrote in about the game. I

2139
01:38:55,279 --> 01:39:01,000
was trying to remember, uh, indivisible. It was indivisible, yeah, yeah,

2140
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:02,279
And I looked it up when I saw that, and

2141
01:39:02,279 --> 01:39:04,239
I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, but that would be

2142
01:39:04,279 --> 01:39:07,560
a fun quiz if someone can do a quiz that's

2143
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:09,520
death straining too or Gremlins two.

2144
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 4: I mean every Grimlins one is just like, uh, there's

2145
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:16,479
an electro Gremlin Like, it's just like, yeah, it's all

2146
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:21,079
just weird Grimlin gimmicks. I know, yeah, it's it's that's

2147
01:39:21,079 --> 01:39:23,359
pretty easy. It'd be very easy for me. These are

2148
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,039
only the two things I know the most about our

2149
01:39:25,079 --> 01:39:26,119
Kajima and Grimlin.

2150
01:39:26,199 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 1: Someone needs to do, Mary, and I don't even need

2151
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,600
to be involved with a quiz. Someone create a quiz

2152
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:33,880
that's deastrating to our Gremlins, Sue, and we'll give Dan

2153
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,800
the quiz and see what he scores. Ten questions, ten

2154
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:37,399
one question.

2155
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:43,039
Speaker 4: I'm curious, Mary, Like I remember that the whole deastranding

2156
01:39:43,079 --> 01:39:45,159
director's cut your game of your debate thing.

2157
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:46,199
Speaker 1: Uh.

2158
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 4: What I am curious now is like, is there is

2159
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:55,000
there any curiosity about two? And you know, if if not,

2160
01:39:55,239 --> 01:39:58,600
you know, what is it that that butts up against you?

2161
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,119
Uh so much. I don't really know where you're at

2162
01:40:01,159 --> 01:40:01,880
with wanting to play.

2163
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:02,039
Speaker 1: It or not.

2164
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 2: I think I think there's interest.

2165
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I think especially if it's going to be,

2166
01:40:07,279 --> 01:40:09,439
you know, something we discuss it at Gody. I need

2167
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:13,600
to write just like you would play uh a JRPG,

2168
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,800
because like we need to be on the same page

2169
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:19,000
about these things. I think something that makes me feel

2170
01:40:19,039 --> 01:40:23,119
a little apprehensive about it. It might I'm trying to

2171
01:40:23,119 --> 01:40:25,439
like avoid it just being like a counterculture thing, but

2172
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:28,359
I just think so many people are like it's so crazy,

2173
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,000
and it's just like the things that you're saying, they

2174
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,279
do sound crazy, but I don't really know if they're

2175
01:40:33,359 --> 01:40:36,399
meaningful outside of like making you laugh.

2176
01:40:36,199 --> 01:40:38,359
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, that's what I've been trying to say.

2177
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,039
In a lot of ways, it does. Yes, it feels

2178
01:40:41,079 --> 01:40:42,720
like it's just, oh, one of those funny things you

2179
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,239
talk about what you just did and you're like, oh,

2180
01:40:44,279 --> 01:40:46,560
it's funny, But like did it serve a purpose?

2181
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,119
Speaker 2: Like why why do you go through all of this?

2182
01:40:49,239 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 3: Like Dan, when you were describing it the very first

2183
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,359
time you played it, you were like, it's so awesome

2184
01:40:53,399 --> 01:40:56,000
on your birthday. There's this whole cot scene with like

2185
01:40:56,159 --> 01:40:59,680
characters and they're singing and happy birthday, and I was like, cool,

2186
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:00,960
but it's a game good, you know.

2187
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:01,319
Speaker 1: What I mean?

2188
01:41:01,359 --> 01:41:03,039
Speaker 3: And so I was like I kind of feel like

2189
01:41:03,079 --> 01:41:06,319
you're getting lost and all these you know, fun things

2190
01:41:06,319 --> 01:41:06,760
that are.

2191
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 2: So funny, and like I couldn't I couldn't believe how

2192
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:10,359
funny that was. But I was like, okay, but where

2193
01:41:10,399 --> 01:41:10,880
is the game?

2194
01:41:11,039 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 3: Like the game is so convoluted, and you guys have

2195
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,920
like even my trying to describe the good components.

2196
01:41:16,319 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 2: It is really messy because there's so much.

2197
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 3: Rapper of Like that's a really funny cut scene that

2198
01:41:22,039 --> 01:41:23,960
probably cost them a lot of money and they wasted

2199
01:41:24,039 --> 01:41:25,399
like a little much time went into that.

2200
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 2: But it's like, okay, but again, what is the fucking game?

2201
01:41:29,079 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 1: Like I think where's the direction? That's I don't know.

2202
01:41:32,079 --> 01:41:34,039
Speaker 4: I get that because, like you know, it's interesting because,

2203
01:41:34,079 --> 01:41:35,840
like I one of the reasons I hate like family

2204
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:39,079
guy is because I hate like random for random's sake,

2205
01:41:39,319 --> 01:41:42,560
I'm going somewhere like I hate like also random humor.

2206
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:46,119
It's like just being random isn't funny, you know? And

2207
01:41:46,399 --> 01:41:49,439
there was I saw a mutual friend recently and I

2208
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,840
was talking about this game. This is a private conversation.

2209
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:53,439
That's why I'm not naming them.

2210
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,079
Speaker 1: But one of barb Schols like what you don't okay,

2211
01:41:56,119 --> 01:41:56,760
I see what you're saying.

2212
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just say it was a private conversation,

2213
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,279
but like I showed him a clip of like, let

2214
01:42:01,279 --> 01:42:02,840
me show you a ten second clip from the end

2215
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,239
of this game, and it does some like really out

2216
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:09,239
there stuff that I could not have possibly predicted, and

2217
01:42:09,279 --> 01:42:11,720
his reaction surprised me. And then he was like, yeah,

2218
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:13,760
but doesn't this kind of feel like Kajima just kind

2219
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,800
of like getting off. I'm just being like, whoa so random.

2220
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 1: So wacky Kajima.

2221
01:42:18,119 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 4: And then I thought about it and I was like

2222
01:42:20,399 --> 01:42:22,239
about the scene in particular I was talking about, which

2223
01:42:22,399 --> 01:42:25,399
for those I alluded to this on the Giant bomb thing,

2224
01:42:26,399 --> 01:42:30,159
it was a James Brown reminiscent thing, and it really

2225
01:42:30,199 --> 01:42:32,760
popped me where I was like, Wow, this is getting weird.

2226
01:42:33,359 --> 01:42:35,840
And he was like, isn't that just Kajima just like

2227
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,079
getting off. I'm just being weird for weird sake or whatever.

2228
01:42:38,119 --> 01:42:41,600
And it's like like like he's into this whole idea

2229
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:44,760
of Kajima being so wacky and random and stuff like fuck, wait,

2230
01:42:45,279 --> 01:42:49,079
I do hate that stuff like random for random, weird

2231
01:42:49,119 --> 01:42:50,920
for weird, you know that type of stuff, And it's like,

2232
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:54,920
what is it about Kajima, where I am like tickled me.

2233
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because you.

2234
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:57,560
Speaker 2: Went to his cool, little stupid house and you got

2235
01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:01,520
to meet him and like, you know and stuff a bunch.

2236
01:43:02,399 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 4: I've hung out with them like four.

2237
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:06,039
Speaker 2: Times, but he never gave a ship who you were.

2238
01:43:06,159 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 3: And now all of a little handshake.

2239
01:43:09,399 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 4: Tan's got that Kii virus. He's just I was sitting

2240
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:14,960
next to him during that event a Kajima Productions.

2241
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 2: Dan, you bring it up all the time.

2242
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you about that off Mike. I'm so

2243
01:43:21,039 --> 01:43:23,439
curious what Jeff Keeley is like when the UI and

2244
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:24,439
his game isn't working.

2245
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 4: Hey, dude loves metal gear, Dude loves Kajima. We can

2246
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:28,399
talk for sure.

2247
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 3: What's it like sniffing Kiey and Coajima's farts in the

2248
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:33,680
same room?

2249
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 1: Hey, Dale, I threw the doll and nothing's happening.

2250
01:43:39,359 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 4: Look, he was encountering a glitch. He was right to

2251
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,720
call someone over and be like, what's going on here?

2252
01:43:44,159 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 1: Dale? What the fuck? Why am I listening to talking

2253
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,760
heads right now? I'm trying to play a video game.

2254
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:51,319
That's a pretty good impression.

2255
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:52,079
Speaker 2: I love you.

2256
01:43:52,159 --> 01:43:56,399
Speaker 1: What do you think? He calls? Hey? Hid? Hey?

2257
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 2: Hid?

2258
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 1: What button. Do I press the throw a suitcaseat on

2259
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:01,800
my who's trying to stab me with a spear?

2260
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:05,119
Speaker 4: Hid Yeah, Like at the end of the day, maybe

2261
01:44:05,159 --> 01:44:07,119
I'm just a mark like Foragma.

2262
01:44:07,279 --> 01:44:08,279
Speaker 1: But but then again, it's like.

2263
01:44:08,399 --> 01:44:11,039
Speaker 4: But I fucking hated Deak, Like if that were the case,

2264
01:44:11,319 --> 01:44:13,800
Like when I get the term mark wrestling term, it's

2265
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,239
one that's just like, oh, my favorites can do no wrong.

2266
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: I can just like blah blah blah.

2267
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 4: I fucking hated Death Stranding when it came out, So

2268
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,760
I think that shows that, like even if it's Kajima,

2269
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:29,439
my fucking favorite game creator ever, he can make something

2270
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,039
that I don't like and I will go out there

2271
01:44:31,039 --> 01:44:32,960
and be like, I fucking hate this and I did

2272
01:44:33,119 --> 01:44:35,640
legitimately come around on it, and I do legitimately love

2273
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:38,760
this game, so like I do think I will give

2274
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,079
him shit when I think it's warranted, but I also

2275
01:44:41,239 --> 01:44:45,720
genuinely do love this game, So I don't know, like

2276
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,680
I don't feel like I'm like, you know, running interference

2277
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:49,439
for Kajima or whatever if I didn't like it, like,

2278
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:51,560
and that's why it's like any like Mike, all your

2279
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,840
complaints that you're saying I think are totally valid, and

2280
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:57,039
also a lot of the story is nonsense.

2281
01:44:57,199 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I mean the first game story

2282
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,399
that was not as well. It's just yeah, that Death

2283
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,720
Randing one. For whatever reason, I played Directors Cut and

2284
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,760
I'm like, all right, I loved a lot. Like most

2285
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:09,720
Metal Gear Solids, Metal Your Slid three is one of

2286
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:13,800
my favorite games ever. I despite all the mechanical issues

2287
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:17,000
I've always had with Coojima's games, I grew up a

2288
01:45:17,039 --> 01:45:20,960
Nintendo person. I never really even for PlayStation standards. His

2289
01:45:21,079 --> 01:45:24,840
control schemes just trying to be different for different sake, almost.

2290
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,159
I don't know if it was a generational divide or

2291
01:45:28,279 --> 01:45:31,880
a regional divide or whatever. Death Stranding one. When I replayed,

2292
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:34,399
I'm like, all right, I kind of finally get why

2293
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:37,199
he's kind of lauded like this. Now I'm playing two,

2294
01:45:37,239 --> 01:45:41,279
and I'm like, it feels like he's almost like stooped

2295
01:45:41,359 --> 01:45:45,479
down to like triple A game design at this point.

2296
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,199
And yeah, and like.

2297
01:45:49,319 --> 01:45:51,359
Speaker 4: I still think it's more interesting than that. It is

2298
01:45:51,399 --> 01:45:53,520
more interesting than if they did a far Crist seven.

2299
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,159
You know, it's like there's so much style to it

2300
01:45:56,279 --> 01:45:57,359
still that like, but.

2301
01:45:57,319 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 3: That's not the bar is better than I'm gonna I'm

2302
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:01,840
gonna piss you off right now.

2303
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,279
Speaker 1: I don't fully believe this, but I'm going to piss

2304
01:46:04,279 --> 01:46:06,039
you off. I was talking to a friend the other

2305
01:46:06,079 --> 01:46:08,000
day and he also has been playing it, and he's like,

2306
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:10,800
he's like, so, yeah, it was made with the in

2307
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:14,479
concert with the Horizon engine. So he's like, it makes

2308
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,960
sense that it feels like a Horizon game. And he

2309
01:46:17,119 --> 01:46:18,920
said that, and I thought about it, and I'm like,

2310
01:46:21,199 --> 01:46:22,359
he's not that wrong.

2311
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,279
Speaker 4: I mean, but I have thought about that a lot

2312
01:46:26,319 --> 01:46:29,159
while playing it, because it is on that same Deciment engine,

2313
01:46:29,359 --> 01:46:30,680
and I yes, thank you.

2314
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:31,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2315
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:36,359
Speaker 4: What differentiates it is I just like Horizon to me

2316
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:40,520
just feels like a game with every weird or controversial

2317
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,399
edge sanded all the way off of it. So like

2318
01:46:43,399 --> 01:46:45,560
when you talk about that like open World Park right

2319
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,760
type thing, I kind of I feel that way about Horizon.

2320
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:49,560
Like on every level.

2321
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,359
Speaker 1: You're climbing over of sources to unlock the map.

2322
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but it's it's it's gorgeous and the action

2323
01:46:56,159 --> 01:46:58,159
is good and like like it is like there are

2324
01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:00,880
so many like top of their craft people working on Horizon,

2325
01:47:01,199 --> 01:47:04,159
but it just feels so sanded down creatively where I

2326
01:47:04,159 --> 01:47:08,840
think I really do respect people making swings, and I

2327
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,359
do think this story and these characters and the like,

2328
01:47:12,399 --> 01:47:14,359
I think there are still swings here. I don't think

2329
01:47:14,359 --> 01:47:17,640
it's the safe thing. You might be painting it as you.

2330
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, sure, main protagonist be a dude shot a baby.

2331
01:47:25,239 --> 01:47:28,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, God, the fucking there's so many gripes. I

2332
01:47:28,319 --> 01:47:29,880
mean I had a lot of gripes with the script

2333
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:31,800
from the first game. And I say script as opposed

2334
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:33,800
to again, I like the storytelling when the bird stuff,

2335
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,279
but like, yeah, that fucking two story, Like why does

2336
01:47:37,319 --> 01:47:39,399
Sam not care about this or that? Why did like

2337
01:47:39,399 --> 01:47:42,239
all of a sudden, there's no guilt in like Fragile

2338
01:47:42,239 --> 01:47:47,239
doesn't feel any guilt for this thing that happened. But like, yes,

2339
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:51,039
I was thinking. I was like, you know what, Like, structurally,

2340
01:47:51,079 --> 01:47:53,199
it's not that different from a Horizon game. But I

2341
01:47:53,239 --> 01:47:55,079
was like, yeah, but you're doing a lot of cool stuff,

2342
01:47:55,119 --> 01:47:57,680
Like a lot of the minutia is very zany and

2343
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,920
weird and bizarre. He's like, yeah, but it's like by

2344
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,079
the end of Forbidden West, you're flying around on a

2345
01:48:03,159 --> 01:48:06,199
robotic pterodactyl. That's pretty like when you say it out loud,

2346
01:48:06,199 --> 01:48:09,079
it's cool, even if the entire game does. There's something

2347
01:48:09,119 --> 01:48:12,000
about like now I once he said that, I couldn't

2348
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,159
stop thinking about it the last like five hours I played.

2349
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:17,279
I'm like, there's something hollow at the center of both

2350
01:48:17,319 --> 01:48:21,239
of these games. And I still Horizon and Yes, and

2351
01:48:21,279 --> 01:48:23,760
I like, that's Treading two more than Horizon. To be clear,

2352
01:48:24,359 --> 01:48:27,520
there is something, yes, to your point, very generic about Horizon,

2353
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,760
even if it is gorgeous. Death Training two one of

2354
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,800
the best looking games I've ever played my life. The

2355
01:48:33,079 --> 01:48:35,840
opening shot when you're on those ridges and East Solitary

2356
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:39,359
in Mexico. I don't look for photorealism in my games.

2357
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:41,560
That I could not have told you that was not real,

2358
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:43,720
Like when it comes down the ridges and all of

2359
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:45,720
a sudden you're balancing on the ridge and like was

2360
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:50,279
it wood Kid the music was playing or whatever. I

2361
01:48:50,319 --> 01:48:52,600
love that shit, that's what I love. I absolutely love

2362
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:54,199
for that ship. And like even at this point in

2363
01:48:54,199 --> 01:48:56,279
the game now as I'm approaching a base, like and

2364
01:48:56,319 --> 01:48:59,079
I'm climbing up a hill, I want like Kate Bush

2365
01:48:59,119 --> 01:49:01,119
to be playing, but then it's the slow, somber song

2366
01:49:01,319 --> 01:49:03,159
like this is what I love. I this is not

2367
01:49:03,199 --> 01:49:07,920
something Horizon would ever do. But there is I can't

2368
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:09,840
I can't quite yet put my finger on it. But

2369
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:12,039
there is something hollow at the center of this game,

2370
01:49:12,079 --> 01:49:15,039
whereas like Death Streading one was the opposite, where I'm like,

2371
01:49:16,159 --> 01:49:18,800
I feel like there's something here that I can't quite

2372
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:22,359
break through to. And for whatever reason, directors cut when

2373
01:49:22,359 --> 01:49:24,760
it came out. I just again, maybe I had more

2374
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:27,920
patience because we weren't fucking doing anything and it was COVID.

2375
01:49:28,039 --> 01:49:29,520
Speaker 4: I think I think that's what the deal was with

2376
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,600
director's cut. It was only time. There was no thing

2377
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,239
that the director's cut introduced and maded and that much

2378
01:49:35,239 --> 01:49:38,199
of a better game. It was just time and expectation

2379
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:40,439
were different. I think that's why so many people came

2380
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:40,920
around with that.

2381
01:49:41,079 --> 01:49:43,359
Speaker 1: It's like it's two. It's like I'm knocking on this

2382
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:45,199
game trying to get to the center of it. It feels

2383
01:49:45,239 --> 01:49:47,760
hollowers one, it's like it's repelling me. But I know

2384
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:51,319
there's something there. I don't know. And again I'm one,

2385
01:49:52,119 --> 01:49:54,560
how long can this game be? Seventy eighty hours not

2386
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:58,119
tay fifty to sixty Okay, I'm one fifth at best

2387
01:49:58,119 --> 01:49:59,920
of the way through this game. So like I want

2388
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,279
I keep playing. I'm having fun, but it's more of

2389
01:50:02,319 --> 01:50:05,199
a fun that I remember having with like the Ubisoft

2390
01:50:05,199 --> 01:50:06,279
games the World.

2391
01:50:07,239 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again I'm not I don't think I'm disagreeing

2392
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,159
with anything you're saying. I think it's just, you know,

2393
01:50:12,319 --> 01:50:15,000
your mileage may vary where it's like the Kajima factor

2394
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:19,319
goes very far with me, and it feels there's a

2395
01:50:19,319 --> 01:50:21,520
lot of Kajima all over this game, especially like in

2396
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:24,000
the last that's the last few hours. I granted, I

2397
01:50:24,119 --> 01:50:25,720
was loving the game all the way up, but then

2398
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:29,720
the last few hours is just the most Kajima shit

2399
01:50:30,079 --> 01:50:32,359
I've ever seen in a video game, more than middle.

2400
01:50:32,159 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: Of your seaking the President. On top of.

2401
01:50:34,239 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 4: More than that, it is like, Wow, this guy is

2402
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:41,159
just fully unshackled here, and I think I think that

2403
01:50:41,199 --> 01:50:42,880
will be off putting to some. I think it will

2404
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,600
be seen as like just very indulgent, but I just

2405
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:49,399
kind of really like his sensibilities and yeah, yeah.

2406
01:50:49,359 --> 01:50:52,119
Speaker 1: No, it's I I I get while you're loving this game, like,

2407
01:50:52,119 --> 01:50:53,720
there's a lot of fun to be had, there's a

2408
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,199
lot of there's a lot of batshit stuff that's going on.

2409
01:50:56,239 --> 01:50:57,760
There's a lot of cool stuff like being able to

2410
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:00,159
remotely access watch towers is awesome if it's like as

2411
01:51:00,159 --> 01:51:02,600
around Kiral network and it makes you think like there's

2412
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,600
certain bases where if you sprint in one direction too far,

2413
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,039
you literally leave the chiral network and you're like, oh shit,

2414
01:51:08,199 --> 01:51:09,479
that's a tactical consideration.

2415
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,680
Speaker 4: I love you can't use the coffin board outside.

2416
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:14,279
Speaker 1: I love that's the kind of stuff where it's like,

2417
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:16,640
that is the systemic stuff you don't see in a

2418
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:19,760
horizon or a far cry. I love that. But anyway, Mary,

2419
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:27,439
I I think we're done. Sorry, Mary, Mary, this game

2420
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:29,239
is way more doing in the first game. If you're

2421
01:51:29,239 --> 01:51:31,239
interested in trying to do this out, it's way more

2422
01:51:31,279 --> 01:51:33,800
dewey than there's some talkie. But honestly, compared to the

2423
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:35,760
first game, it's fucking nothing. It's a lot of dewey.

2424
01:51:36,119 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Mary, I uh, if it helped, I don't

2425
01:51:39,119 --> 01:51:42,239
think I will be doing like I love this game dearly,

2426
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,680
I don't think I will be making any Uh what's

2427
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:49,399
the word for flipper gusting? What's the Philip Burton? What's

2428
01:51:49,399 --> 01:51:52,800
the Philip Burtons?

2429
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 1: Sounds like the oil company in like Afghanistan.

2430
01:51:57,880 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 2: I won't be doing any butter fingering.

2431
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,199
Speaker 4: I think it will probably be in my top three

2432
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:07,079
of the year, certainly, but uh, don't worry about me

2433
01:52:07,319 --> 01:52:08,920
pushing extremely hard for this beginning.

2434
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 1: Do we all have to share number one? So far?

2435
01:52:12,279 --> 01:52:14,159
Speaker 4: Without I mean, I'll tell you my three. I'll tell

2436
01:52:14,159 --> 01:52:16,399
you right now. You know we've done the mid year stuff.

2437
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:19,600
Speaker 3: You know it's too early for this.

2438
01:52:20,039 --> 01:52:25,680
Speaker 4: It's in no particular order. Desk Strending two, Expedition thirty three,

2439
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:30,520
and Blueprints I share. Okay, those are those are my

2440
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:32,319
front runners right now. But we're a week away from

2441
01:52:32,319 --> 01:52:35,159
Bonanza and I'm gonna be going nuts on Bonanza.

2442
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 1: And we got some stuff coming out in the fall.

2443
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:41,359
Mm hmm, yeah, all right, Sorry, Mary, what have you

2444
01:52:41,399 --> 01:52:46,720
been playing lately? We got to pass the backs now

2445
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:54,119
past so continue? No, we didn't. I can call my mom.

2446
01:52:54,199 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 4: What do you want.

2447
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:58,039
Speaker 2: Trying to be an ally?

2448
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,680
Speaker 1: I can go wake my wife up into the room.

2449
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:05,079
Speaker 2: Stop bringing your wives it.

2450
01:53:05,279 --> 01:53:07,359
Speaker 1: I have three female cats.

2451
01:53:07,199 --> 01:53:11,359
Speaker 3: Your love for your Oh, I know, I'm gonna say.

2452
01:53:11,399 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 1: Dan's a dude.

2453
01:53:12,399 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 4: I've been playing ship Ink.

2454
01:53:16,079 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 3: It's like an Amazon based game where you pack stuff

2455
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:21,920
in a shipping plant.

2456
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 4: Is it Amazon branded?

2457
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:27,159
Speaker 3: No, It's just like I assume that's probably what it's

2458
01:53:27,199 --> 01:53:30,800
like to work there, like you orders, and.

2459
01:53:31,359 --> 01:53:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I do. I ship orders.

2460
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:42,520
Speaker 3: My god, let's talk about death stranding somewhere in ship

2461
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:48,520
Ink you it's an ally. Stop trying to be an ally.

2462
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,720
You're not allowed to be an ally by saying you're

2463
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:56,680
an eye, interrupting me to tell me anxiety is an ally.

2464
01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:58,239
Speaker 4: It's actually different, but.

2465
01:53:59,359 --> 01:54:01,279
Speaker 1: Is my favorite Quentin Tarantino movie.

2466
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:07,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I like the substance in ship Ink You.

2467
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:15,159
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Curtis is aging like a fine wine. Carl

2468
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:28,079
Zenya on the top. Oh I I I sighed during

2469
01:54:28,319 --> 01:54:31,479
our James Bond marathon recently. Many times.

2470
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:35,079
Speaker 4: You disapproved of scenes in The Warriors.

2471
01:54:36,079 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew enough to know this was wrong.

2472
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 1: Hey buster, Hey whoa. We don't let that word fly

2473
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:51,880
in modern New York. Buddy boy, Hey whoa? You lay out?

2474
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:56,039
You get your goddamn hands off her. And I turned

2475
01:54:56,039 --> 01:54:57,880
around and looked at my wife, and I flexed, and

2476
01:54:57,920 --> 01:54:59,560
then we boom.

2477
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 4: Mike, let Marry toss.

2478
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:14,159
Speaker 3: Sorry, I hate this podcast. Ship Ink is a simulation

2479
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:15,880
packaging plant.

2480
01:55:16,079 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 2: So you work at a pack plant.

2481
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:22,159
Speaker 3: And you print out orders and then you get all

2482
01:55:22,199 --> 01:55:28,079
the stuff like maybe sweaters or vases or mugs or whatever.

2483
01:55:28,399 --> 01:55:31,159
And sometimes the items are broken, you double click on

2484
01:55:31,199 --> 01:55:31,760
them to fix them.

2485
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:33,239
Speaker 2: They're just like silly little mini games.

2486
01:55:33,279 --> 01:55:35,439
Speaker 3: It's kind of like one of those thoughtless sim games

2487
01:55:35,439 --> 01:55:37,199
where you can play it after like a long day

2488
01:55:37,199 --> 01:55:39,560
of work and you don't want to be stressed out

2489
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:41,520
or think too much, or you can play it while

2490
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:43,479
you're like watching TV on.

2491
01:55:43,319 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 1: Your steam deck.

2492
01:55:46,199 --> 01:55:50,159
Speaker 3: So steam deck friendly, although I will say it's much

2493
01:55:50,159 --> 01:55:53,600
easier on mouse and keyboard because it's because you're unpacking

2494
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:55,640
and you have to like cut open the boxes.

2495
01:55:55,239 --> 01:55:57,279
Speaker 4: And you say that I've been thinking about Unpacking, Like

2496
01:55:57,319 --> 01:55:59,760
is it anything at all like the game Unpacking?

2497
01:56:00,399 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 3: Yes, but it's less story environmental storytelling, which I think

2498
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,359
was what everybody loved about on the back.

2499
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:09,079
Speaker 2: This doesn't have any of that.

2500
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 3: It's more of the fact that your simulation of doing

2501
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:15,239
all the things you need to do to pack a

2502
01:56:15,239 --> 01:56:19,800
box appropriately, including if it's got fragile things in it,

2503
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:21,159
you need to bubble wrap it, you need to put

2504
01:56:21,159 --> 01:56:23,840
a fragile stickler on it. You just need to make

2505
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:27,079
sure that everything's accurate or you lose money. And then

2506
01:56:27,479 --> 01:56:29,359
at the end of the day. With the money that

2507
01:56:29,439 --> 01:56:33,279
you have, you can invest in lots of different things.

2508
01:56:33,279 --> 01:56:35,960
You obviously you need to buy your own shipping equipment,

2509
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:37,960
which makes it a lot more annoying if you accidentally

2510
01:56:38,039 --> 01:56:40,319
use the wrong sticker or the wrong size box, because

2511
01:56:40,319 --> 01:56:42,520
you're paying for that. It's coming out of your paycheck

2512
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,640
when you make a mistake. But if you do everything right,

2513
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,520
you get like maybe like seven hundred dollars. You can

2514
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:50,279
put it in the bank, which your crew's interest. You

2515
01:56:50,319 --> 01:56:54,840
can take it to a law firm, and then UA

2516
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:57,239
you can invest in yourself. So in the law firm

2517
01:56:57,279 --> 01:56:59,319
you can do things like it'll be one thousand dollars,

2518
01:56:59,319 --> 01:57:02,079
but you get ten sent more for fast orders, and

2519
01:57:02,119 --> 01:57:03,920
so it's like okay, if I do that, I'll make

2520
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:06,960
the money back within like three or four working days,

2521
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:07,479
so that's.

2522
01:57:07,279 --> 01:57:08,199
Speaker 2: Like a good investment.

2523
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 3: You can buy like different colored shipping equipment, which isn't

2524
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:14,520
like super exciting or anything like. This is a pretty

2525
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:18,279
mundane sim game that's meant to help you like pastime

2526
01:57:18,319 --> 01:57:20,079
in a casual way, and I think it does a

2527
01:57:20,119 --> 01:57:22,520
totally fine job of that. I did buy this in

2528
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:26,039
the Steam Summer sale, which I think is important context

2529
01:57:26,039 --> 01:57:29,159
to add because Steam Summer Sale, like all of us

2530
01:57:29,199 --> 01:57:30,960
were kind of like, yes, I would like to spend

2531
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:32,439
a little bit of money. This game is like I

2532
01:57:32,439 --> 01:57:35,520
think it's five dollars and it was on sale, So

2533
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:38,640
I spent two dollars on this game and it was

2534
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:40,399
just like a delightful game for two bucks.

2535
01:57:40,479 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 2: Honest.

2536
01:57:41,439 --> 01:57:43,279
Speaker 4: The packing part of it, is there any kind of

2537
01:57:43,279 --> 01:57:47,239
that like tetris Ari four suitcase like satisfaction of just

2538
01:57:47,239 --> 01:57:49,039
like packing everything in as tight as possible.

2539
01:57:49,359 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 3: Yes, you have to rotate everything properly and you can't

2540
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:54,720
overlap too many things at once, so and you again

2541
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,359
you have to like make the right decision. It'll print

2542
01:57:57,359 --> 01:57:58,920
out and it'll be like this person wants two pairs

2543
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:02,840
of pants, a uh water bottle, and some keys, and

2544
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:05,079
it's like can I fit that into a medium box

2545
01:58:05,199 --> 01:58:06,720
or do I have to pay for the large box?

2546
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:09,039
And if you're wrong, now you now you've just wasted

2547
01:58:09,039 --> 01:58:09,479
a box.

2548
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:13,279
Speaker 4: So that that sounds satisfying because I've moved so many

2549
01:58:13,319 --> 01:58:15,239
times and like the amount of times I had a

2550
01:58:15,279 --> 01:58:17,079
box and like there has to be a fucking way

2551
01:58:17,119 --> 01:58:19,840
to get everything in here, Like it is tremendously satisfying

2552
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:21,760
to figure out the configuration, They're like, oh, yeah, that

2553
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:22,199
works out.

2554
01:58:23,079 --> 01:58:25,920
Speaker 1: Dreads had that too in the cargo.

2555
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:27,119
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah.

2556
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:32,039
Speaker 2: Like this is such a stupid conversation compared to chanting.

2557
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,359
Speaker 1: Oh I'm the fucking yellow taxi go room guy.

2558
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 4: After Mike talks about life and philosophy for forty minutes.

2559
01:58:39,159 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 1: Ship Ink is just about how we all compartmentalize and

2560
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:46,560
pack certain emotions and feelings and traumas into their own

2561
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:47,399
little compartments.

2562
01:58:47,399 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 4: I mean, isn't stranding just a ship ink game?

2563
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:50,039
Speaker 1: Really?

2564
01:58:50,239 --> 01:58:53,279
Speaker 2: It comes down in many ways. We both played ship Ink.

2565
01:58:53,359 --> 01:58:56,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ship Ink is like the prequel, and then

2566
01:58:56,720 --> 01:59:00,600
you pass the crates to Sam, yeah, and he brings

2567
01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:02,439
them to the next facility.

2568
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:07,239
Speaker 3: There's there's like no cut scenes that you know, where

2569
01:59:07,279 --> 01:59:09,760
you like shoot babies or like walk on the moon

2570
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:14,239
or you know, like anything really extravagant happens. But at

2571
01:59:14,239 --> 01:59:16,439
the end of your work day, if there's extra stuff

2572
01:59:16,439 --> 01:59:19,199
that you didn't pack, you can steal.

2573
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:20,439
Speaker 2: It, which I thought was kind of interesting.

2574
01:59:21,399 --> 01:59:24,399
Speaker 3: I feel like it doesn't fit the vibe of the world,

2575
01:59:24,439 --> 01:59:27,720
which is extremely wholesome and like you'll see, but you

2576
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:30,439
can steal, and then after you steal, there's like a

2577
01:59:30,479 --> 01:59:32,399
guy that hangs out by a dumpster and he kind

2578
01:59:32,399 --> 01:59:35,000
of looks like a rough rabble rouser, and then you

2579
01:59:35,039 --> 01:59:37,079
sell stuff to him for like under the table, and

2580
01:59:37,159 --> 01:59:38,760
nothing bad has happened to me yet, but I always

2581
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:39,920
found that odd that I could do that.

2582
01:59:40,039 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 2: And then at the end of.

2583
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:45,039
Speaker 3: The day, you have to pay bills, like you know,

2584
01:59:45,079 --> 01:59:48,520
getting your nails done or paying your dog food. The

2585
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:50,359
only way you can lose this game is if you

2586
01:59:50,399 --> 01:59:52,760
don't pay three of your bills in a row. If

2587
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:56,359
you don't pay your bills on time, you essentially lose

2588
01:59:56,399 --> 01:59:57,880
the game. So you have to be good enough at

2589
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:00,760
the game at least to to to pack all your

2590
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:04,079
stuff and and and keep your shit together. One of

2591
02:00:04,119 --> 02:00:05,439
the things you can do with the law Firm is

2592
02:00:05,439 --> 02:00:08,159
you can get a divorce and then anytime there's like

2593
02:00:08,199 --> 02:00:10,159
a spousal support, you don't have to pay it, which

2594
02:00:10,199 --> 02:00:12,800
I think is also very dark. There's like something happened

2595
02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:15,520
with these developers. They were like, wait, let's let them

2596
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:18,000
steal too, and they just left it. And I don't

2597
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:19,640
know why they put it in there, but they did.

2598
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:23,359
Speaker 1: The creative director, Jim comes in on a Wednesday, clearly hungover.

2599
02:00:23,399 --> 02:00:30,640
He's like, all right, I got the main character's wife

2600
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:34,800
is a fucking idiot bitch, and we need to figure

2601
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:37,439
out a way to for like, uh, figure out how

2602
02:00:37,479 --> 02:00:46,800
to put some like divorce mechanics in the game. Sometimes

2603
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:49,199
I just like to think what my life would have

2604
02:00:49,199 --> 02:00:52,439
been like years ago if I didn't propose to Karen

2605
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:55,560
at Disneyland. And we're gonna call the game. It takes

2606
02:00:55,600 --> 02:01:00,119
two and the kid's gonna be all morose and you

2607
02:01:00,159 --> 02:01:04,800
have to kill its stuff to animal. Yeah, it'll learn something.

2608
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 2: It's there's like a couple weird jarring things in it, but.

2609
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:11,279
Speaker 3: Anyway, I find it, especially for the two dollars I

2610
02:01:11,319 --> 02:01:13,760
paid for it. Most of the games that I bought

2611
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:17,880
during the Steam Summer Sale are like cozy easy games

2612
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:21,600
that you can play on a Steam deck. Easy pickins

2613
02:01:22,479 --> 02:01:24,319
for a game that just recently came out, So that's

2614
02:01:24,319 --> 02:01:24,760
Ship Inc.

2615
02:01:25,319 --> 02:01:26,279
Speaker 2: The next one I'll throw out.

2616
02:01:26,279 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 3: I also bought at the Steam Summer Sale, which was

2617
02:01:28,039 --> 02:01:30,880
Two Point Museum. I've actually never played a two point

2618
02:01:31,039 --> 02:01:34,279
game before, so you'll have to take this with a

2619
02:01:34,319 --> 02:01:34,960
grain of salt.

2620
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:36,640
Speaker 2: When other people are like huge.

2621
02:01:36,399 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 3: Two point fans and they they've apparently accrued like this

2622
02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:44,479
mass following of these silly little I think they're also

2623
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:48,319
sim games where you, like you know, you operate a

2624
02:01:48,359 --> 02:01:49,720
theme park or hospital.

2625
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:50,159
Speaker 1: Prison.

2626
02:01:51,359 --> 02:01:55,159
Speaker 3: Yes, two point prison I think was popular. This is

2627
02:01:55,199 --> 02:01:57,720
two point museum, so you are a museum curator.

2628
02:01:58,039 --> 02:01:58,159
Speaker 1: You.

2629
02:01:58,439 --> 02:02:01,279
Speaker 3: I again also got this on SAE, also just adding

2630
02:02:01,279 --> 02:02:02,760
that context in there, because I was like, this is.

2631
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:07,239
Speaker 2: A good deal you. I love a bargoon. Don't get

2632
02:02:07,239 --> 02:02:07,600
me wrong.

2633
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:12,239
Speaker 3: Games are expensive and I.

2634
02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:16,479
Speaker 1: I can't take either of you. I saw you Mike

2635
02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:19,800
Dan just spilled wine, but like you went to like

2636
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:22,600
lick the lid to keep the trickle over going down.

2637
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:24,680
And then I hear Mary say, I love a bargoon.

2638
02:02:25,960 --> 02:02:28,319
Why am I spending time talking to you guys every week?

2639
02:02:30,479 --> 02:02:31,159
Is above us?

2640
02:02:31,279 --> 02:02:31,479
Speaker 4: Now?

2641
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but.

2642
02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 2: I love a bargoon.

2643
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:39,760
Speaker 4: I've never poured wine without having to like the bottle

2644
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:41,039
immediately afterwards.

2645
02:02:41,039 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 1: What do you well, there's a big draft that goes

2646
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:44,760
down every time.

2647
02:02:45,119 --> 02:02:48,199
Speaker 4: Physically, there's not a way to do it otherwise, it's

2648
02:02:48,199 --> 02:02:51,760
not true. I didn't go to small a school like

2649
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:52,239
some of us.

2650
02:02:53,199 --> 02:02:56,279
Speaker 1: No, it's still trickle. Sorry, Mary, you love a bargoon.

2651
02:02:59,359 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 3: So that my first point you start the museum, you

2652
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:07,079
send people off on expeditions. It's fun because they all

2653
02:03:07,079 --> 02:03:10,119
have like really stupid names like Ron Philangy and like,

2654
02:03:10,399 --> 02:03:19,920
you know, Regina Goon.

2655
02:03:19,479 --> 02:03:21,399
Speaker 2: Struggle, really really struggle.

2656
02:03:21,439 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 4: All these games seem aggressively British.

2657
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 1: Could I could I could like, yeah, I don't know,

2658
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:31,600
I could feel like I could like hook up with

2659
02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:34,319
Regina Goon and my wife would forgive me because it's

2660
02:03:34,359 --> 02:03:42,239
the COO.

2661
02:03:39,119 --> 02:03:40,880
Speaker 2: And the game is silly.

2662
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:43,479
Speaker 3: The game is like filled with British humor and like

2663
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:48,920
silly humor throughout for example, for whatever reason. So obviously

2664
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:50,960
you're just selling tickets to your museum. You're filling it

2665
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:54,279
with old stuff that you find on your digs, and

2666
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:57,000
you're decorating your museum, and people come and visit you,

2667
02:03:57,079 --> 02:03:59,159
and you can actually click on each person that comes

2668
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:04,239
and learn about their stories and their histories and what

2669
02:04:04,279 --> 02:04:06,039
makes them excited to be in the museum. And some

2670
02:04:06,079 --> 02:04:08,640
of the people that visit are yeties, Like they actually

2671
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:11,079
have yeties that come into your museum, and they have

2672
02:04:11,119 --> 02:04:14,359
little children that run around little yeties and you can

2673
02:04:14,439 --> 02:04:16,479
learn about them. So the game doesn't take itself seriously

2674
02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:18,800
at all. It's meant to be kind of a little

2675
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:23,079
bit of a it's playful and silly. When you go

2676
02:04:23,119 --> 02:04:26,319
on these expeditions, they'll give you like maybe one third

2677
02:04:26,439 --> 02:04:29,239
or one fourth of a dinosaur.

2678
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:31,159
Speaker 2: Skeleton, so you got to go back on the same expedition.

2679
02:04:31,239 --> 02:04:34,560
Speaker 3: There is a risk that your people will get injured

2680
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:36,760
or take away too long, or not bring back the

2681
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:39,399
right bones. But once they do and you complete a skeleton,

2682
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:41,920
everybody in the museum gets super hype and all these

2683
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:45,159
people come to come to your giant t rex skeleton,

2684
02:04:45,199 --> 02:04:47,680
which I think is fun. I got kind of into

2685
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,479
it then, and I was like not prepared for this

2686
02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:52,840
at all. I was doing really well, and I thought

2687
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:54,680
my museum was like actually taking off. I had like

2688
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:59,479
five fully constructed skeletons that I thought were awesome, and

2689
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:00,560
I was like this game, it was great. And they

2690
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:03,279
were like, cool, you've earned yourself. Museum number two, let's

2691
02:05:03,279 --> 02:05:05,479
start it. And I was like what, Like, I'm but

2692
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:07,279
I'm already doing a museum, and they were like, no,

2693
02:05:07,399 --> 02:05:09,960
we're gonna do this one. It's a haunted museum. You

2694
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:11,680
need you need to like have ghosts in it, and

2695
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:15,279
I was like what. And everything about the second museum

2696
02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:19,119
is like a farce and fake. Uh, it was it

2697
02:05:19,199 --> 02:05:23,399
completely lost all sense of reality. I was instead of

2698
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:28,159
curating bones and scavenging like animal remains and fossils for

2699
02:05:28,279 --> 02:05:36,439
my museum, it's it's like dolls and haunted phone booths

2700
02:05:36,520 --> 02:05:40,119
and go like actual ghosts and you have to make

2701
02:05:40,159 --> 02:05:42,560
the ghosts happy with the right furniture in order to

2702
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:43,720
like keep your museum open.

2703
02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:45,720
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm out. So I don't like

2704
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:46,479
the haunted.

2705
02:05:46,239 --> 02:05:50,199
Speaker 3: Museum, but I like the uh. I like the one

2706
02:05:50,199 --> 02:05:51,880
where you like dig up animal bones.

2707
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 4: I feel like those are like the right level of

2708
02:05:55,079 --> 02:05:57,439
like city Builder type stuff I would want, like I've

2709
02:05:57,439 --> 02:05:58,960
seen enough of those games and be like, I don't

2710
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:01,720
want to go like super in deep on like tax

2711
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:03,439
raids and all this stuff. I just want to like

2712
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:06,359
build some fun stuff, see some silly characters and stuff like.

2713
02:06:06,479 --> 02:06:08,399
I've always been curious about the Two point series.

2714
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:09,520
Speaker 2: I was surprised.

2715
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:12,560
Speaker 3: It is fairly intricate, and there's so many different things

2716
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:15,119
you can do. You can promote people, you can fire them,

2717
02:06:15,279 --> 02:06:18,800
you can give them education. I was educating a lot

2718
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:21,640
of my people to be like smarter, faster, kinder. There's

2719
02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:23,960
one you can do that just makes their thoughts happier.

2720
02:06:24,199 --> 02:06:25,960
So if you have like a really depressed employee, you

2721
02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:27,279
can be like, I'm gonna go teach you how to

2722
02:06:27,319 --> 02:06:29,520
be happier ten percent more. And then they come back

2723
02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:32,199
and they're like, I don't hate myself anymore, and that's great,

2724
02:06:32,199 --> 02:06:32,720
Like good for you.

2725
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm a good manager.

2726
02:06:34,880 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 3: You design all sorts of like decorations for the environment.

2727
02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:41,800
And I even constructed like a playhouse that was like

2728
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:43,279
a dinosaur, and kids.

2729
02:06:43,039 --> 02:06:47,279
Speaker 2: Like went into like the butt of.

2730
02:06:47,159 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 3: The dinosaur because it's a toy and like play around

2731
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:52,199
in its stomach and then they slide down its tongue

2732
02:06:52,239 --> 02:06:54,479
as a slide, And I was like, that's so fun.

2733
02:06:55,119 --> 02:06:57,880
So I liked that part of it, but I didn't

2734
02:06:57,960 --> 02:06:58,680
like the haunted one.

2735
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:01,399
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't even understand how that made sense

2736
02:07:01,479 --> 02:07:03,840
to me. It's so funny because like obviously there was.

2737
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:06,239
Speaker 3: To be silly and whimsical, so like I don't want

2738
02:07:06,239 --> 02:07:07,920
to take it too seriously. But at some point when

2739
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:10,439
I was like trying to appease ghosts to be happy

2740
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:11,920
in my museum, I was like, no.

2741
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:12,720
Speaker 2: You've lost me.

2742
02:07:13,159 --> 02:07:15,359
Speaker 4: Does it feel like if you had gone forward with

2743
02:07:15,439 --> 02:07:17,560
that it would just be like other gimmick ones where

2744
02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:21,199
it's like here's the Caveman Hospital, here's the you know, ninjas.

2745
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:24,000
Speaker 3: I guess it was just getting sillier and sillier, and

2746
02:07:24,319 --> 02:07:26,600
I thought maybe it was going to be to a degree,

2747
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:28,520
a little bit more realistic. When I was younger, I

2748
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:35,399
remember playing ah a sim game where I constructed a

2749
02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:39,600
dinosaur park, you know, like Jurassic Park, and I was

2750
02:07:39,640 --> 02:07:40,720
the one doing it, and I had to make sure

2751
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:42,159
that the fences were high enough with the t Rex

2752
02:07:42,239 --> 02:07:43,920
or they escape and they eat all your patrons.

2753
02:07:44,079 --> 02:07:45,479
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is so sick.

2754
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:48,159
Speaker 3: And it was like fun because it was obviously fantasy,

2755
02:07:48,159 --> 02:07:50,960
but it was embedded in reality, like there was a

2756
02:07:51,079 --> 02:07:52,760
there was a reality to it that you could actually

2757
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:54,359
believe that you could put a t Rex in your park,

2758
02:07:54,399 --> 02:07:56,880
and there's a reality to this, you know, to this

2759
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:58,680
museum that I was like, oh no, I could actually

2760
02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:01,159
send people on expeditions and like put these bones and

2761
02:08:01,279 --> 02:08:03,359
decorate the rooms and people will pay me money to

2762
02:08:03,399 --> 02:08:06,119
do it. There's no reality in which like I'm actually

2763
02:08:06,159 --> 02:08:09,800
like appeasing ghosts and making people come to take photos

2764
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:11,880
of them in a room. So it just didn't I

2765
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:15,680
like got lost on that style of museum I wonder

2766
02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:17,439
if I'm alone on that, but I did like the

2767
02:08:17,479 --> 02:08:21,119
original museum, so yeah, so I played a shipping sim

2768
02:08:21,279 --> 02:08:28,640
and a two point museum sim. Nice, thank you steam Deck.

2769
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:34,000
Speaker 1: I want to get back to City Skylines two since they.

2770
02:08:34,199 --> 02:08:37,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that had a rough out of the gate.

2771
02:08:37,479 --> 02:08:39,840
It was kind of rough, and yeah, I am curious

2772
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:42,760
who because like, I played enough of one to be

2773
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:44,600
excited for two, and then I was like, wait a minute,

2774
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:47,239
this seems really like scaled back and kind of buggy

2775
02:08:47,279 --> 02:08:49,920
and stuff. So that was a year or two years ago.

2776
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:53,520
Now that two came out, So yeah, I wonder where

2777
02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:54,199
that's at.

2778
02:08:54,399 --> 02:08:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I like the first one. You could be

2779
02:08:56,880 --> 02:09:02,680
trying to build a self sustaining, beautiful, great education, et

2780
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:05,239
cetera city, But then you could also at a certain

2781
02:09:05,279 --> 02:09:07,960
point vier into like, oh, every single person who lives

2782
02:09:07,960 --> 02:09:10,800
here is Fomka Johnson. And I like that flexibility because

2783
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:11,880
I want to try to do that in the second

2784
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:15,760
game as well. But I like that. The only game

2785
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:20,760
I played like those recently is frost Punk, and that's

2786
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:24,800
like the most bleak interpretation of that kind of game ever.

2787
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:28,079
Speaker 4: I tried that. That's bleak is the word.

2788
02:09:28,319 --> 02:09:34,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mary, did you get a switch to you're playing

2789
02:09:34,479 --> 02:09:35,039
Mario Kart.

2790
02:09:35,239 --> 02:09:38,640
Speaker 3: I did get a switch to. I played Mario Kart's

2791
02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:42,840
Open World section. I also played through all of the

2792
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:45,840
Grand Prix and stuff Grand Prix just because you should, right,

2793
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:48,520
So I've played through every I've at least tried every

2794
02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:52,159
hard level Grand Prix, you know, ace them all at

2795
02:09:52,239 --> 02:09:54,600
number one throughout the board. But I kind of get

2796
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:57,520
bored playing that solo. And you know, I have lots

2797
02:09:57,520 --> 02:10:00,840
of friends, but I wanted to play the open world.

2798
02:10:01,680 --> 02:10:03,079
Speaker 2: I wanted to play the open world.

2799
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:08,800
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, they have to be cool, and I

2800
02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:12,199
actually thought the open world was really interesting. I there

2801
02:10:12,199 --> 02:10:14,840
are these power ups throughout the open world that are

2802
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:17,079
super fun that if you hit them, it gives you

2803
02:10:17,119 --> 02:10:19,279
a challenge, like go through all these rings within a

2804
02:10:19,279 --> 02:10:20,119
certain amount of time.

2805
02:10:20,159 --> 02:10:23,119
Speaker 2: The peace switch missions, the peace switches. Yeah, I find

2806
02:10:23,159 --> 02:10:24,159
those really fun.

2807
02:10:25,439 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 3: And I was enjoying doing those and just making sure

2808
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:32,239
because they're actually some of them are difficult, and some

2809
02:10:32,279 --> 02:10:33,720
of them I had to like do like ten or

2810
02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:36,079
fifteen times in order to get through them. But what

2811
02:10:36,159 --> 02:10:38,239
I recognize is that each of them was actually teaching

2812
02:10:38,279 --> 02:10:41,079
me a good skill that would be very beneficial for

2813
02:10:41,199 --> 02:10:43,279
when I do have friends, and so I think that

2814
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:47,560
was like a nice bonus, was I was like learning skills.

2815
02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:49,880
But in this like nice fun open world game, there's

2816
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:51,720
so many secrets in the open world too.

2817
02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:54,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it takes a bit of exploring too, because like

2818
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:56,279
I haven't done a ton of open world I've done

2819
02:10:56,319 --> 02:10:58,880
a lot of Grand Prixs and like online Knockout Tour

2820
02:10:58,920 --> 02:11:01,199
and all that stuff. But like I've done maybe an

2821
02:11:01,199 --> 02:11:04,640
hour of just like driving around and maybe found like

2822
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:08,319
five piece switch missions, and it seems like there's a lot.

2823
02:11:08,359 --> 02:11:10,079
I don't know what the number is, and you're not

2824
02:11:10,079 --> 02:11:12,199
necessarily like you don't like stickers and things like that,

2825
02:11:12,279 --> 02:11:13,199
there's hundreds.

2826
02:11:13,279 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 2: I found so many. I did it for like eight hours,

2827
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:17,920
and I did drive around.

2828
02:11:18,199 --> 02:11:20,119
Speaker 3: That's all I did was drive around and do pee

2829
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:22,479
Where have you been calling them? I've just been calling

2830
02:11:22,479 --> 02:11:25,039
them switch missions. I've been calling them pee blocks, I

2831
02:11:25,079 --> 02:11:29,199
think or something. Yeah, But they're they're fun and there's

2832
02:11:29,319 --> 02:11:31,279
like a good challenge in them. So I've been doing

2833
02:11:31,279 --> 02:11:34,239
them for a really long time. I've also been switching

2834
02:11:34,279 --> 02:11:36,319
like the controller back and forth, and we would like

2835
02:11:38,159 --> 02:11:40,399
play with another person and they would like try and

2836
02:11:40,439 --> 02:11:42,600
beat my score, right and so there is like a

2837
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:44,720
competitive nature to it, but we're passing the steam jack

2838
02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:45,880
back and forth, which I think is fun.

2839
02:11:46,279 --> 02:11:48,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think with that stuff, I have felt no

2840
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:51,560
real rush because I based on every other Mario card.

2841
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:53,159
I'm just gonna be playing this game for like the

2842
02:11:53,199 --> 02:11:55,600
next eight to ten years until I make another one,

2843
02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:57,760
and so I will have plenty of time between races

2844
02:11:57,800 --> 02:11:59,239
to kind of drive around. So I haven't had like

2845
02:11:59,239 --> 02:12:02,560
a lot of dedicated open world time, but it makes

2846
02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:04,760
me happy to see, Like when I do go over

2847
02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:06,920
the map, it's like, oh shit, there are like six

2848
02:12:07,039 --> 02:12:09,079
Luigi costumes I don't have, and if I have her

2849
02:12:09,119 --> 02:12:11,039
over this track, there's like a bunch of question mark

2850
02:12:11,039 --> 02:12:13,119
blocks I haven't found. So like, I like the idea

2851
02:12:13,199 --> 02:12:15,600
there just being something in the background for me to

2852
02:12:15,680 --> 02:12:20,079
do for however long. Like again, I'm gonna keep playing

2853
02:12:20,079 --> 02:12:22,000
this game, that stuff will always be in the background.

2854
02:12:22,039 --> 02:12:24,239
So it is fun. Like the mechanics where it's like

2855
02:12:24,439 --> 02:12:26,279
we're gonna teach you how to like wall ride and

2856
02:12:26,319 --> 02:12:28,439
bounce between one wall ride to the next wall ride

2857
02:12:28,439 --> 02:12:31,000
to get the peace Witch mission or whatever. So I'm

2858
02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:32,840
sure there's some clever ones there. I still need to

2859
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:33,520
see a lot of them.

2860
02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a very I did it have?

2861
02:12:37,119 --> 02:12:39,680
Did any other correct me if I'm wrong? Did any

2862
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:42,199
other open car Mario Kart have an open world like

2863
02:12:42,239 --> 02:12:45,520
this where you could just This felt like really shocking

2864
02:12:45,560 --> 02:12:48,159
to me that they did this, And it's also all of.

2865
02:12:48,079 --> 02:12:49,000
Speaker 2: The different.

2866
02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 3: Tracks stitched together, which is also like shocking, Like if

2867
02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:56,720
you just keep driving, you'll be like, oh, I'm clearly

2868
02:12:56,960 --> 02:13:00,760
on the main track that you know you start your

2869
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:01,399
Grand Prix on.

2870
02:13:01,479 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're the toad Factory now, and now we're in

2871
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:06,079
like you know, the suburbs of toad Factory or whatever.

2872
02:13:06,399 --> 02:13:08,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they've stitched them all into like one large

2873
02:13:08,439 --> 02:13:10,680
open world. It feels a little unfinished, like there's some

2874
02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:13,840
strange decisions that were made in it. I still find

2875
02:13:13,840 --> 02:13:16,079
it odd how much you can like easily get like

2876
02:13:16,119 --> 02:13:18,880
power ups and speed bump speed power ups and stuff

2877
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:21,920
like that. But there's no reason to go fast when

2878
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:24,960
you're just in the open world, So it feels unnecessary

2879
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:27,800
that there's that many power ups and like ways to boost.

2880
02:13:28,159 --> 02:13:30,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, getting inside a semi truck and it's boosting and

2881
02:13:30,439 --> 02:13:31,760
stuff is like, well, I'm not in a race like

2882
02:13:31,800 --> 02:13:34,159
those semi tracks don't show up during a Grand Prix.

2883
02:13:34,199 --> 02:13:36,520
Speaker 3: There's no reason to go fast unless you're you've done

2884
02:13:36,520 --> 02:13:38,079
one of those power ups, and then you need to

2885
02:13:38,079 --> 02:13:40,039
go fast because the game has told you to go

2886
02:13:40,079 --> 02:13:42,760
fast for very specific section, but for everything else you're

2887
02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:45,279
actually looking for secrets, which means you shouldn't be going

2888
02:13:45,319 --> 02:13:47,199
too fast because you might miss them.

2889
02:13:47,560 --> 02:13:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2890
02:13:47,800 --> 02:13:50,920
Speaker 4: I've seen people complain about the open world stuff feeling empty,

2891
02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:51,800
which I get it.

2892
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:54,399
Speaker 3: There's not like a tone, there's no purpose, there's no

2893
02:13:54,439 --> 02:13:55,920
purpose to running around in there.

2894
02:13:56,239 --> 02:13:58,279
Speaker 4: No, But like, I don't think I expected that much

2895
02:13:58,319 --> 02:14:00,079
from it. I think it's a cool gimmick, but I

2896
02:14:00,119 --> 02:14:01,960
didn't really see it as much more than that. We're like, oh,

2897
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:04,119
okay in the lobby instead of staring at a bunch

2898
02:14:04,199 --> 02:14:07,000
of knees standing on the globe, I can like kind

2899
02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:09,359
of drive around and fuck around like driving as far

2900
02:14:09,359 --> 02:14:11,439
as that goes. Yeah, I'm happy with that. I don't

2901
02:14:11,439 --> 02:14:12,800
think I was expecting more than that.

2902
02:14:12,920 --> 02:14:15,039
Speaker 3: Really, I agree, And I also think just if I

2903
02:14:15,079 --> 02:14:18,439
can also say like similarly to like when Disney makes

2904
02:14:18,439 --> 02:14:20,439
a sequel and everyone's like, well, I don't like that,

2905
02:14:20,439 --> 02:14:21,880
that's not like what I remember, and it's like, well,

2906
02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:24,119
it's not for you anymore. I think there is an

2907
02:14:24,159 --> 02:14:26,880
element to Mario Kart that isn't really for us anymore,

2908
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:29,479
these like experienced gamers that are like I need to

2909
02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:32,279
like collect it all. It's actually for the whimsies of

2910
02:14:32,319 --> 02:14:35,760
a child, and a kid would absolutely adore riding around

2911
02:14:35,840 --> 02:14:39,800
casually in this open world, collecting things and being really powerful.

2912
02:14:39,880 --> 02:14:42,239
And I could absolutely see giving this to like one

2913
02:14:42,279 --> 02:14:45,239
of my young nieces and seeing like how delight delighted

2914
02:14:45,279 --> 02:14:48,119
they would be just driving around endlessly and having fun.

2915
02:14:48,399 --> 02:14:50,319
Speaker 4: Oh if I was seven and this came out, I

2916
02:14:50,319 --> 02:14:52,680
would have that entire continent mapped out, like I would

2917
02:14:52,760 --> 02:14:55,359
know every latitude and longitude to that place.

2918
02:14:55,439 --> 02:14:58,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think it's successful in that way.

2919
02:14:58,399 --> 02:15:00,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've enjoyed it x It has been.

2920
02:15:01,039 --> 02:15:04,560
Speaker 3: I add it to three out of my four cozy

2921
02:15:04,600 --> 02:15:06,239
games that I've been playing in the last two weeks,

2922
02:15:06,279 --> 02:15:09,239
because it's like, there ain't nothing more cozy than just

2923
02:15:09,319 --> 02:15:12,319
driving around aimlessly, like looking for secrets and doing like

2924
02:15:12,439 --> 02:15:14,920
little short stint puzzles when you feel like it.

2925
02:15:15,640 --> 02:15:21,760
Speaker 1: Totally. Speaking of Wall Driving, Dan, you've been playing Tony

2926
02:15:21,760 --> 02:15:23,600
Hawk's pro Skater three and four.

2927
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:27,640
Speaker 4: What remax yeah, yeah, three and four are remix Are

2928
02:15:27,880 --> 02:15:29,039
you two Tony Hawk people?

2929
02:15:29,199 --> 02:15:32,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, not like die Hard, but I appreciate them and

2930
02:15:32,600 --> 02:15:33,000
enjoy them.

2931
02:15:33,039 --> 02:15:37,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mary, I think that's also my alley.

2932
02:15:37,239 --> 02:15:40,239
Speaker 3: I mean I grew up with them as well, but

2933
02:15:40,319 --> 02:15:42,399
I was never like a die hard, but gosh, I

2934
02:15:42,439 --> 02:15:45,279
mean the tracks, like the musical tracks were always so

2935
02:15:45,319 --> 02:15:46,560
important to me growing up.

2936
02:15:47,039 --> 02:15:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like.

2937
02:15:48,119 --> 02:15:50,640
Speaker 4: There are there's maybe it's just because I'm older, but

2938
02:15:50,720 --> 02:15:53,079
like some people's gotten Bit by the Bug really hard,

2939
02:15:53,119 --> 02:15:55,479
and Tony Hawk is like on that top top tier

2940
02:15:55,560 --> 02:16:00,039
of gaming history and I'm definitely in that category. And

2941
02:16:00,079 --> 02:16:03,680
so for the Mes and Grubs of the World and Minaudi,

2942
02:16:03,760 --> 02:16:05,960
it's just like, Okay, this is like this might as

2943
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:08,840
well be like Mario sixty four levels of like importance,

2944
02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:11,840
you know. And I was sell in bank today. I

2945
02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:15,560
was like, you know, the number one game that if

2946
02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:19,600
I just hear sounds from it makes my brain just

2947
02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:21,359
fireworks are going off of my brain.

2948
02:16:21,399 --> 02:16:22,159
Speaker 1: It's Tony Hawk.

2949
02:16:22,199 --> 02:16:24,960
Speaker 4: That's serious, Like it's just one of the most beautiful

2950
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:27,960
feeling games of all time. And so that's why it's like, yeah,

2951
02:16:27,960 --> 02:16:29,920
they are just remakes. I guess we want to boil

2952
02:16:29,920 --> 02:16:31,960
it down to that, but to be able to play

2953
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:36,159
these games refresh better graphics, you know, on the go

2954
02:16:36,280 --> 02:16:38,239
with modern consoles and stuff like that, which you know,

2955
02:16:38,280 --> 02:16:41,159
I've gone back to Tony Hawk Prestcator three a million times.

2956
02:16:41,159 --> 02:16:44,799
Anytime I get something that can play PS two on it,

2957
02:16:44,879 --> 02:16:48,280
the first game I try is Tony Hawk three and

2958
02:16:48,440 --> 02:16:50,639
to have like, oh my god, I'm doing this again,

2959
02:16:50,719 --> 02:16:53,639
which is fun every fucking time, but it looks better.

2960
02:16:53,719 --> 02:16:57,200
There's bonus goals, there's like, you know, it doesn't add

2961
02:16:57,280 --> 02:17:01,159
a ton in terms of just pure content, but I'm

2962
02:17:01,239 --> 02:17:04,280
never not smiling if I'm playing a Tonyawk game. I'm

2963
02:17:04,319 --> 02:17:07,920
just fucking thrilled. And people complain about the four stuff

2964
02:17:07,920 --> 02:17:10,120
because the original release of four had like an open

2965
02:17:10,120 --> 02:17:12,120
world thing where you walked up to NPCs and except

2966
02:17:12,200 --> 02:17:15,040
missions and blah blah blah. It was a big controversy

2967
02:17:15,079 --> 02:17:18,280
with hardcore fans. I don't mind. I actually really liked

2968
02:17:18,319 --> 02:17:21,319
the two minute thing from one, two, and three, So

2969
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,440
just boiling four down to the two minute stuff does

2970
02:17:24,520 --> 02:17:29,399
not bother me at all. Iron Galaxy the new missions

2971
02:17:29,479 --> 02:17:32,520
like the water park and stuff like it just fantastic.

2972
02:17:32,600 --> 02:17:36,719
Or new maps they've been great, and another complaint has

2973
02:17:36,719 --> 02:17:39,559
been the soundtrack, because like, only a handful of tracks

2974
02:17:39,680 --> 02:17:42,840
are back from three and four, and I think they

2975
02:17:42,840 --> 02:17:44,879
got the ones that, like, they didn't have Asis Phades,

2976
02:17:45,000 --> 02:17:48,200
they didn't have Dell, the punky Homo sapien. I would

2977
02:17:48,200 --> 02:17:49,959
have been like, well, those are like, you know, those

2978
02:17:49,959 --> 02:17:52,040
are the ones. They have those, And then they have

2979
02:17:52,079 --> 02:17:54,079
a bunch of like more modern songs that really fit

2980
02:17:54,159 --> 02:17:57,719
the tone of Tony Hawk, and I'm thrilled. I'm just

2981
02:17:57,760 --> 02:18:00,959
thrilled playing. I got it on switched to the first

2982
02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:05,399
night I beat the game and didn't like almost like

2983
02:18:05,479 --> 02:18:07,600
every goal. I didn't do all the pro goals. But

2984
02:18:07,639 --> 02:18:09,200
then I was like, ah, it's kind of crashing a

2985
02:18:09,239 --> 02:18:11,479
lot on the Switch version. So I got it again

2986
02:18:11,639 --> 02:18:13,920
on PS five and now I'm about to beat it

2987
02:18:13,959 --> 02:18:16,239
on PS five, Like I will just keep beating this

2988
02:18:16,360 --> 02:18:18,200
game and playing it over and over and over again

2989
02:18:18,239 --> 02:18:20,959
and loving it. If you are going to play on Switch,

2990
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:23,520
I will give the caveat that if you're playing a

2991
02:18:23,559 --> 02:18:27,120
handheld and you're not an analog stick pervert, which if

2992
02:18:27,159 --> 02:18:29,600
you are playing Tony Hawk with an analog stick, you're

2993
02:18:29,600 --> 02:18:35,120
a pervert. The dpad stuff is not great on the

2994
02:18:35,159 --> 02:18:37,760
Switch handheld just because it's those four buttons and like

2995
02:18:38,159 --> 02:18:40,680
that PlayStation dpad is what I want for Tony Hawk.

2996
02:18:41,440 --> 02:18:43,520
And it did crash, like the first time I played

2997
02:18:43,520 --> 02:18:45,879
on switch to it crashed like five or six times

2998
02:18:46,200 --> 02:18:48,799
in one sitting. That's a problem. I'm sure that will

2999
02:18:48,799 --> 02:18:50,920
get patched out. I'm sure that'll be fine. And it

3000
02:18:50,959 --> 02:18:52,920
did run well when it was working, so I think

3001
02:18:52,920 --> 02:18:54,559
that'll be a non su maybe by the time this

3002
02:18:54,639 --> 02:18:58,920
podcast goes up, but no, I'm probably gonna maine the

3003
02:18:58,959 --> 02:19:02,239
game on PS five right now. It's fantastic. They nailed

3004
02:19:02,239 --> 02:19:04,079
the feel of it. They've tried this before, they did

3005
02:19:04,079 --> 02:19:06,360
the Tony Auks first Getter HD and the feel wasn't right.

3006
02:19:06,399 --> 02:19:09,399
And anyone who plays Tony Hawk knows immediately if the

3007
02:19:09,399 --> 02:19:11,879
feel is right. And they have totally nailed the feel.

3008
02:19:12,399 --> 02:19:16,479
And I love it. I absolutely fucking love it. Tony

3009
02:19:16,520 --> 02:19:17,840
Hawk's one of the best series of all time.

3010
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:19,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't go wrong.

3011
02:19:20,040 --> 02:19:22,319
Speaker 3: That's so cool, and it's glad that it brings you

3012
02:19:22,360 --> 02:19:25,040
back like those amazing feelings of nostalgia.

3013
02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:25,760
Speaker 2: I think.

3014
02:19:27,079 --> 02:19:29,360
Speaker 3: There's probably nothing better when you do a remake than

3015
02:19:29,479 --> 02:19:33,040
not messing with the original guts too much. So that

3016
02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:35,600
people could just enjoy what they loved when they were kids.

3017
02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:38,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, which I'm about to find out with Snake Eater,

3018
02:19:38,120 --> 02:19:40,559
because that remax coming up and I'm about to start

3019
02:19:40,600 --> 02:19:42,799
playing it. Probably in an episode or two, I'll be

3020
02:19:42,840 --> 02:19:45,280
talking about it. And I already went on a trip

3021
02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:46,920
and played it, and it's like, Okay, you didn't fuck

3022
02:19:46,959 --> 02:19:48,799
with it. What I've seen, they didn't fuck with it,

3023
02:19:48,840 --> 02:19:50,760
and like that's the way to do a classic. It's like,

3024
02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:52,959
don't try to do your own spin on this thing

3025
02:19:53,000 --> 02:19:55,159
that everyone loves because people are going to fucking push

3026
02:19:55,200 --> 02:19:57,959
back on that. Just make it look better, make it

3027
02:19:57,959 --> 02:20:00,559
control better. Like that's that's a great remake grid there.

3028
02:20:00,639 --> 02:20:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then like Resume will one remake, but also

3029
02:20:03,879 --> 02:20:05,120
remakes fly in the face of that.

3030
02:20:05,479 --> 02:20:08,719
Speaker 2: Those are mostly like quality of life upgrades though right.

3031
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:12,440
Speaker 1: Like no Resume Will one remake is a complex resumele

3032
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:15,319
remake is a complete overhaul, and it's those games like

3033
02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:16,639
the last twenty years.

3034
02:20:16,840 --> 02:20:19,799
Speaker 4: But the thing is like our stuff is still like

3035
02:20:20,319 --> 02:20:22,559
the people who are in charge of are making it,

3036
02:20:22,639 --> 02:20:26,159
you know, with like Iron Galaxy is not never soft,

3037
02:20:26,239 --> 02:20:29,639
you know, current Konami is not Kajima. Yeah, so it's

3038
02:20:29,719 --> 02:20:31,719
like I think, if you were not the people that

3039
02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:34,639
were in charge of it originally, just be faithful and

3040
02:20:34,680 --> 02:20:36,799
make it look better and play better. Don't try to

3041
02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:38,920
do like we got a better idea for snake Eater.

3042
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:41,600
Speaker 1: You know, yep, no, I get that, Uh Mary? What

3043
02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:43,920
is quickly? Block Blast? Talk about it? Quickly?

3044
02:20:44,600 --> 02:20:49,879
Speaker 2: Super quickly block blast? You guys into phone games movie.

3045
02:20:52,239 --> 02:20:56,879
Speaker 3: Block Blast is Tetris with a little bit of puzzle

3046
02:20:57,159 --> 02:20:57,920
and crack.

3047
02:20:58,200 --> 02:20:58,719
Speaker 2: That's it.

3048
02:20:59,000 --> 02:21:01,920
Speaker 3: Like, it's like all three of those things, but instead

3049
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:05,399
of doing it fast, you think about your moves and

3050
02:21:05,479 --> 02:21:08,200
you place them strategically for the highest score.

3051
02:21:08,920 --> 02:21:10,840
Speaker 2: It is addictive and I can.

3052
02:21:10,719 --> 02:21:14,559
Speaker 3: Play it on a plane while it's taking off on

3053
02:21:14,600 --> 02:21:15,000
my phone.

3054
02:21:15,040 --> 02:21:16,239
Speaker 2: And that's why I got really into it.

3055
02:21:16,280 --> 02:21:20,079
Speaker 3: I asked my boss what their kids love the most

3056
02:21:20,120 --> 02:21:22,440
on the phone, and she was like, everybody's talking about

3057
02:21:22,559 --> 02:21:25,200
block Blasts, and I was like, bet, And so I

3058
02:21:25,319 --> 02:21:29,079
downloaded this game and it is It is a modern

3059
02:21:29,120 --> 02:21:32,319
puzzle Tetris crack and I know we like Tetris, so

3060
02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:35,200
it's the same mechanics, it's the same pieces.

3061
02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:38,040
Speaker 1: D take away.

3062
02:21:38,719 --> 02:21:44,159
Speaker 3: I'm telling yeah, Dan, remember.

3063
02:21:42,719 --> 02:21:44,600
Speaker 4: No, I don't remember all the time.

3064
02:21:45,079 --> 02:21:47,520
Speaker 3: Well, in our next one hundred best games of all time.

3065
02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:51,440
Block Blast is going to beat Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater,

3066
02:21:51,559 --> 02:21:53,319
so you should probably play this that you can be

3067
02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:58,799
prepared for the argument block Blast, All right, that's bad

3068
02:21:58,799 --> 02:21:59,399
for mobile game.

3069
02:22:00,360 --> 02:22:03,760
Speaker 1: You guys want to talk about emails? Yeah, the concept?

3070
02:22:04,239 --> 02:22:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are they?

3071
02:22:06,840 --> 02:22:07,920
Speaker 1: Let's talk about emails.

3072
02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:14,000
Speaker 4: Can a pigeons? No audio listeners you're missing? You should

3073
02:22:14,000 --> 02:22:16,440
go to Patren. Oh boy, this is worth it alone.

3074
02:22:16,680 --> 02:22:19,120
Oh he's doing tongue stuff. Oh god, look at him.

3075
02:22:19,159 --> 02:22:23,079
Speaker 2: Go oh god, technically that's Mary doing that.

3076
02:22:24,399 --> 02:22:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's true.

3077
02:22:25,639 --> 02:22:30,159
Speaker 3: Ron Falangie, Regina Goon, Ginaon.

3078
02:22:30,840 --> 02:22:33,120
Speaker 1: I love it. It notified Marry that changed the name.

3079
02:22:33,159 --> 02:22:34,360
But I don't think Dan saw it.

3080
02:22:34,920 --> 02:22:37,360
Speaker 4: I see it now, Yeah.

3081
02:22:36,559 --> 02:22:37,719
Speaker 2: I saw both of them.

3082
02:22:38,120 --> 02:22:41,440
Speaker 3: I just tried to muscle my way through one fucking

3083
02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:44,760
game without you guys taking it up with all your.

3084
02:22:46,040 --> 02:22:52,959
Speaker 1: As you know you're not Yes, I gotta go pee, okay.

3085
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:55,040
As always, you can write into Fire's cap pass at

3086
02:22:55,040 --> 02:22:59,799
gmail dot com with comments, questions, concerns. We'll take all

3087
02:22:59,840 --> 02:23:02,319
them into account. Thank you to a lot of people

3088
02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:05,200
who wrote in last episode. I had been talking about

3089
02:23:05,200 --> 02:23:07,399
a game that I could not for the life of me. Remember,

3090
02:23:07,639 --> 02:23:10,280
I remember I played it during twenty nineteen or twenty

3091
02:23:10,360 --> 02:23:12,159
or twenty one. It was very vague, but I gave

3092
02:23:13,440 --> 02:23:18,799
general mechanical memories about it, and it was in fact indivisible.

3093
02:23:19,680 --> 02:23:21,719
If you have not played it, look it up. It's

3094
02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:24,120
very inspired by And this might have thrown some people

3095
02:23:24,120 --> 02:23:26,280
because I said it was turn based. It's inspired by

3096
02:23:26,360 --> 02:23:29,680
Valkyrie Profile, which is like half like not quite clear

3097
02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:33,159
obscure levels, but sort of real time, sort of turn based,

3098
02:23:33,159 --> 02:23:36,200
sort of Final Fantasy six. So that might have been

3099
02:23:36,239 --> 02:23:38,040
with threw people off. But it was indivisible. And the

3100
02:23:38,079 --> 02:23:40,159
reason I could not find it is because I was

3101
02:23:40,159 --> 02:23:42,440
going through my Steam library game by game, when in

3102
02:23:42,440 --> 02:23:45,600
fact I owned it in my PlayStation library. I don't

3103
02:23:45,680 --> 02:23:48,159
do it. But that's Firescape past at gmail dot com.

3104
02:23:48,159 --> 02:23:51,399
Thank you to everybody who wrote in. I kind of

3105
02:23:51,479 --> 02:23:53,879
jumped the gun on the beginning of this, Mary, But

3106
02:23:53,959 --> 02:23:55,920
do you want to read this first one from Alice.

3107
02:23:58,159 --> 02:24:00,719
Speaker 3: Hi, Guys, just letting you know that the game Mike

3108
02:24:00,799 --> 02:24:04,319
is talking about sounds like indivisible to me anyways, since

3109
02:24:04,360 --> 02:24:06,399
I'm writing in anyway, if you had to turn a

3110
02:24:06,479 --> 02:24:09,840
music video into a game, what would you choose Alice.

3111
02:24:09,440 --> 02:24:10,159
Speaker 2: Thanks Alice.

3112
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:15,719
Speaker 4: Black Hole Sun Sound Garden, Woh what would the game up?

3113
02:24:16,120 --> 02:24:19,200
It scared the shit out of me as a kid.

3114
02:24:19,280 --> 02:24:22,719
It's like the spookiest vibe I've ever seen from a

3115
02:24:22,799 --> 02:24:24,440
music video. If you haven't seen it, it's a lot

3116
02:24:24,440 --> 02:24:28,120
of like the world is like like the black hole sun,

3117
02:24:28,159 --> 02:24:30,040
the sun is turning into a black hole, and it's

3118
02:24:30,079 --> 02:24:32,360
a bunch of people in the suburbs looking up and.

3119
02:24:32,399 --> 02:24:35,159
Speaker 2: Like bumpies or something, and they're like into it.

3120
02:24:35,239 --> 02:24:37,280
Speaker 4: Like it's a lot of like, oh, ladies doing laundry,

3121
02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:39,239
and she looks up and sees the world's ending, and

3122
02:24:39,280 --> 02:24:42,959
like the face contorts like crazy, And it was the

3123
02:24:42,959 --> 02:24:47,600
face contorting stuff that just fucked me up as a kid. Yeah,

3124
02:24:47,840 --> 02:24:49,399
oh god, I'm looking at that picture right now, the

3125
02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:50,559
lady chopping a fish.

3126
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:55,040
Speaker 1: Paper Boy sixty four vibes. Yeah, it's real fucked up.

3127
02:24:55,079 --> 02:24:55,760
And it was just like the.

3128
02:24:58,479 --> 02:25:02,159
Speaker 4: Very dramatically negative apocalypse stuff and then people just like

3129
02:25:02,239 --> 02:25:05,200
smiling super huge. As a kid, I was like, this

3130
02:25:05,280 --> 02:25:08,920
is fucking crazy, really scariest, like that tone I would love.

3131
02:25:11,719 --> 02:25:14,600
Speaker 1: I really liked the I don't know which one would,

3132
02:25:14,920 --> 02:25:18,719
but but sorry you have answered like half of it Oh,

3133
02:25:18,799 --> 02:25:20,840
what was the other part, Well, not really if you

3134
02:25:20,840 --> 02:25:22,879
had to turn a music video into a game, oh,

3135
02:25:22,920 --> 02:25:28,280
I guess I was just thinking a horror game.

3136
02:25:28,959 --> 02:25:31,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, or maybe like a weird open world game where

3137
02:25:31,799 --> 02:25:33,760
I don't know, the blood moon shows up and everyone

3138
02:25:33,760 --> 02:25:34,920
freaks the fuck out or something.

3139
02:25:35,760 --> 02:25:41,840
Speaker 1: Do you remember the music video for Christopher Walking in Fat.

3140
02:25:41,680 --> 02:25:45,159
Speaker 4: Boy Slim's musical yeah, dancing weapon of choice choice.

3141
02:25:44,959 --> 02:25:46,760
Speaker 1: Thank You, when he's going up and down that hotel

3142
02:25:46,879 --> 02:25:49,639
the escalator. I'm trying to think of, like how you

3143
02:25:49,639 --> 02:25:51,120
could turn that into it. I remember that was like

3144
02:25:51,159 --> 02:25:53,319
the early not the earliest, but I remember that video

3145
02:25:53,399 --> 02:25:55,040
game like it was one of those weird things my

3146
02:25:55,159 --> 02:25:58,719
dad got obsessed with, Like he had come up with

3147
02:25:58,879 --> 02:26:01,719
Christopher Walking. They're probably the same age, i'd say similar,

3148
02:26:01,799 --> 02:26:03,840
so like to him to see Christopher walkin doing that

3149
02:26:04,559 --> 02:26:06,719
and my dad was not super into this. British DJ

3150
02:26:07,799 --> 02:26:10,319
was very funny to him, so he watched that music

3151
02:26:10,399 --> 02:26:13,639
video I have to say, twice a week for like

3152
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:16,040
a decade. Well that was the thing.

3153
02:26:16,120 --> 02:26:19,159
Speaker 4: Is like, at that point, Walking was not a full

3154
02:26:19,239 --> 02:26:22,079
meme yet, Like now, I feel like Christopher Walking is

3155
02:26:22,079 --> 02:26:24,440
so memified and everything like that. He was a very

3156
02:26:24,440 --> 02:26:28,399
respected actor. Hey, people would do impressions of him, for sure,

3157
02:26:28,399 --> 02:26:30,639
and they do. They're talking and you know all that stuff.

3158
02:26:30,799 --> 02:26:32,959
But like if there's something around the mid to late

3159
02:26:33,079 --> 02:26:35,120
nineties where it's like he got the cow Bell sketch,

3160
02:26:35,239 --> 02:26:37,559
you got the fat Boy Slim video, that's where it's

3161
02:26:37,600 --> 02:26:39,520
like he became like and like the Internet was becoming

3162
02:26:39,520 --> 02:26:42,959
a thing. He became kind of this internet darling almost

3163
02:26:43,159 --> 02:26:46,120
early meme thing, you know. And I think Weapon of

3164
02:26:46,239 --> 02:26:47,280
Choice is a big part of that.

3165
02:26:47,360 --> 02:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess to your point, if he didn't now

3166
02:26:48,879 --> 02:26:50,799
it'd be like, oh, he's off doing his thing, he's

3167
02:26:50,840 --> 02:26:53,959
a wacky guy. Yeah, no, no, that's that's a good point.

3168
02:26:54,879 --> 02:26:57,639
I just remember, I don't know that I've ever loved

3169
02:26:57,680 --> 02:27:00,719
anything the way my dad loved that music video. And

3170
02:27:00,879 --> 02:27:04,680
you guys have met my dad brief wife. Well, no anything,

3171
02:27:04,920 --> 02:27:10,159
not anybody, anybody? Oh okay, I can't Yeah, ar Marines, what.

3172
02:27:10,479 --> 02:27:13,959
Speaker 2: Fuck Amanda, he doesn't love you?

3173
02:27:14,239 --> 02:27:21,319
Speaker 1: I textenter none of my favorite I'm an ally, I

3174
02:27:21,319 --> 02:27:30,120
love my wife, she's my favorite. Gangdam style would be

3175
02:27:30,120 --> 02:27:31,479
a sick I.

3176
02:27:31,520 --> 02:27:34,719
Speaker 3: Fucking brought that up, and we were like looking these

3177
02:27:34,760 --> 02:27:36,159
up ahead of time, just to make sure we had

3178
02:27:36,159 --> 02:27:39,159
something in our heads. GANDAM Style would be an absolute

3179
02:27:39,360 --> 02:27:42,200
diabolical video game. It would just probably be like a

3180
02:27:42,239 --> 02:27:46,239
bunch of stupid mini games like can you walk you

3181
02:27:46,280 --> 02:27:51,000
know through this like high wind tunnel, you know, without getting.

3182
02:27:50,760 --> 02:27:52,120
Speaker 2: Too much garbage on you.

3183
02:27:52,239 --> 02:27:55,399
Speaker 3: It would be so funny, likes such a stupid it

3184
02:27:55,399 --> 02:27:59,200
would remind me of uh not, I think.

3185
02:27:59,079 --> 02:27:59,719
Speaker 2: You should leave.

3186
02:28:00,120 --> 02:28:02,399
Speaker 3: What's that stupid British game that's cartoon that we all

3187
02:28:02,399 --> 02:28:04,600
thought was really funny?

3188
02:28:04,600 --> 02:28:06,000
Speaker 1: I think yes, yes, yes, it was Fanda.

3189
02:28:06,079 --> 02:28:07,319
Speaker 3: I think it would be like that. It would be

3190
02:28:07,360 --> 02:28:10,200
like stupid shit happening in many micro games.

3191
02:28:11,559 --> 02:28:14,479
Speaker 4: Oh, I got one? Okay YouTube are I'm going to

3192
02:28:14,520 --> 02:28:17,680
feel old here? Green Jello, three little pigs.

3193
02:28:17,639 --> 02:28:20,399
Speaker 1: And you know this? You do? Yeah? How do you

3194
02:28:20,440 --> 02:28:20,680
know that?

3195
02:28:20,799 --> 02:28:21,600
Speaker 2: I have to google that.

3196
02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've got it. I've got fucking I'm

3197
02:28:24,120 --> 02:28:27,200
the youngest of in a family of seven. If my

3198
02:28:27,239 --> 02:28:27,760
parents like it.

3199
02:28:28,040 --> 02:28:32,360
Speaker 4: I was obsessed with this video. It's a claymation video

3200
02:28:32,399 --> 02:28:35,719
from like probably like nineteen ninety two, and it's just

3201
02:28:35,719 --> 02:28:38,280
about like the wolf blowing down like from the hair

3202
02:28:38,479 --> 02:28:41,200
my Tritney tinchin and it was all these clamation pigs

3203
02:28:41,239 --> 02:28:43,840
and stuff, and it was this weird metal band and

3204
02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:45,440
I wanted to buy the CD but there was a

3205
02:28:45,440 --> 02:28:47,840
song called shit Man on it and my mom was like,

3206
02:28:48,079 --> 02:28:52,719
probably you're like eight, you shouldn't buy this, but yeah,

3207
02:28:53,000 --> 02:28:56,840
full on clamation weird like two adult version of a

3208
02:28:56,879 --> 02:28:58,879
fable like Kids Fabled, that'd be cool.

3209
02:29:00,680 --> 02:29:01,319
Speaker 2: I think that.

3210
02:29:03,040 --> 02:29:05,959
Speaker 3: If we wanted to do story based right, like a

3211
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:09,159
game that we think would have like a really valuable

3212
02:29:09,200 --> 02:29:11,840
story to tell but still be really fun to play.

3213
02:29:12,360 --> 02:29:15,079
I think One by Metallica is one of the most

3214
02:29:15,079 --> 02:29:19,959
incredible music videos of all time. One is a really

3215
02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:22,639
long song, right, like it's like over seven minutes long.

3216
02:29:22,959 --> 02:29:26,879
The music video depicts basically like the horrors of war,

3217
02:29:28,000 --> 02:29:30,399
and so it's like showing someone who's like been through

3218
02:29:31,079 --> 02:29:33,559
a lot of the problems in World War One and

3219
02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:35,520
their PTSD and they actually I think they have like

3220
02:29:35,559 --> 02:29:37,079
most of their arms and legs and.

3221
02:29:37,079 --> 02:29:38,559
Speaker 2: Like face shot on my.

3222
02:29:40,559 --> 02:29:43,000
Speaker 3: Line, yeah, yes, and they're like all fucked up and

3223
02:29:43,000 --> 02:29:45,280
they're like in the music video, they're basically like kill me,

3224
02:29:45,479 --> 02:29:48,120
like I don't want to be here, ayre. I think

3225
02:29:48,159 --> 02:29:51,239
that there's like cinematic elements of that that would be

3226
02:29:51,360 --> 02:29:56,159
like Gangbusters in a video game to explain the horrors

3227
02:29:56,200 --> 02:29:58,840
of war. I don't think we accurately do that super well,

3228
02:29:58,879 --> 02:30:01,559
but I do think there's games that depicts war in the.

3229
02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:07,920
Speaker 4: SAPs the line. What what are you laughing at that?

3230
02:30:09,040 --> 02:30:12,600
Speaker 2: I laugh because I laugh because Mike laughed, and his name.

3231
02:30:12,520 --> 02:30:17,399
Speaker 1: Is most Edged Lord. Like this game like says something.

3232
02:30:17,360 --> 02:30:20,559
Speaker 4: Specps the line, and that was a fucking bold game.

3233
02:30:20,719 --> 02:30:27,079
Speaker 1: I agree what you laughed, I don't line is an

3234
02:30:27,079 --> 02:30:30,959
interesting game. I agree the way you said it was

3235
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:35,959
just find of darkness. Yeah, Joseph Conrad all that Apocalypse Now.

3236
02:30:36,440 --> 02:30:39,399
Speaker 3: Okay, Apocalypse Now is like one of my favorite movies

3237
02:30:39,440 --> 02:30:42,559
of all time, and I think, like, I think that's

3238
02:30:42,559 --> 02:30:42,879
not a.

3239
02:30:42,959 --> 02:30:45,719
Speaker 4: Wait, what's his fucking face, Mike, It's maybe my favorite

3240
02:30:45,760 --> 02:30:47,479
movie of all time? What face?

3241
02:30:47,559 --> 02:30:51,360
Speaker 1: I love the movie. I love the movie.

3242
02:30:51,639 --> 02:30:52,520
Speaker 2: Making fun of us.

3243
02:30:52,680 --> 02:30:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm not making fun of you. I like that movie.

3244
02:30:55,319 --> 02:30:57,920
Speaker 2: You think you're so fucking great?

3245
02:30:58,479 --> 02:31:00,719
Speaker 4: Well, I got a post for bark was now outside

3246
02:31:00,719 --> 02:31:03,040
this door. Box got a poster in her office. I

3247
02:31:03,159 --> 02:31:04,440
like the problem.

3248
02:31:04,799 --> 02:31:07,000
Speaker 1: We love that move now. I thought speck Ops was great.

3249
02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:07,520
That's all.

3250
02:31:08,280 --> 02:31:09,840
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up.

3251
02:31:10,719 --> 02:31:11,760
Speaker 1: What do you know about war?

3252
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you haven't seen a gun. He's got PTSD. Oh no,

3253
02:31:23,319 --> 02:31:26,239
the horror, Oh god, the horror.

3254
02:31:28,319 --> 02:31:29,079
Speaker 1: They're in the trees.

3255
02:31:31,319 --> 02:31:34,319
Speaker 3: I think that a six story based game. I think

3256
02:31:34,360 --> 02:31:37,159
if we're talking about gameplay right, like visually, this music

3257
02:31:37,239 --> 02:31:40,719
video would probably make for some sick gameplay. Save seven

3258
02:31:40,959 --> 02:31:44,040
Nation Army by White Stripes would make the best thumper

3259
02:31:44,120 --> 02:31:45,159
level of all time.

3260
02:31:45,559 --> 02:31:53,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally Yeah. I wanted to mention this email and

3261
02:31:53,600 --> 02:31:58,239
I cannot speak to the quality of this. However, do

3262
02:31:58,319 --> 02:32:03,360
you guys subscribe to the newsletter Simon at Game Discover Code? No,

3263
02:32:04,639 --> 02:32:08,280
really intelligent dude, like breaking down like why certain game? Mary,

3264
02:32:08,319 --> 02:32:14,479
You'd love it. I'll send it to you. Why certain games? No? No, no, no,

3265
02:32:14,520 --> 02:32:15,280
he like Dan.

3266
02:32:15,360 --> 02:32:17,879
Speaker 2: There's a finger painting that I think you would absolutely love.

3267
02:32:19,040 --> 02:32:21,920
Speaker 1: My niece, did this like turkey hand thing that you

3268
02:32:21,959 --> 02:32:30,520
would put on your Yeah? Okay, Simon Carlos does a

3269
02:32:30,559 --> 02:32:33,040
newsletter that's really good. You both like it, but marry

3270
02:32:33,120 --> 02:32:36,840
because you like combed Steam for unique indie games all

3271
02:32:36,840 --> 02:32:40,040
the time. There's a game called Dead as Disco. There's

3272
02:32:40,079 --> 02:32:46,040
a demo available supposedly this game blew up on Steam.

3273
02:32:46,079 --> 02:32:47,479
I think I want to say, like a month ago,

3274
02:32:47,639 --> 02:32:51,000
two months ago, just says coming soon. You can upload

3275
02:32:51,159 --> 02:32:54,680
any song you want to the game, and then the

3276
02:32:54,760 --> 02:32:57,319
game will put you in a music video where you

3277
02:32:57,399 --> 02:33:01,559
are like Seafu fighting people to the song. I have

3278
02:33:01,639 --> 02:33:05,079
not played it myself. Apparently it's red. So you upload

3279
02:33:05,120 --> 02:33:07,840
any song you want. So you could put Weapon of Choice.

3280
02:33:07,840 --> 02:33:10,840
You could put Baby one More Time, you could put

3281
02:33:11,120 --> 02:33:14,440
seven Nation Army, you could put Dan what what video

3282
02:33:14,479 --> 02:33:17,559
do you put black hole son and you'll fight through

3283
02:33:18,920 --> 02:33:24,280
this like and I get yes, there's like rhythm aspects,

3284
02:33:24,319 --> 02:33:27,559
but like apparently the game adjusts. I don't know how

3285
02:33:27,600 --> 02:33:28,120
it does it.

3286
02:33:28,719 --> 02:33:32,000
Speaker 4: E of the Ludacrous video where you had the really

3287
02:33:32,000 --> 02:33:35,200
big hands, you have the big hole cans get back

3288
02:33:35,360 --> 02:33:41,159
and he was get back and then yeah yeah and

3289
02:33:41,200 --> 02:33:44,600
ever as well he was big like word of mouth,

3290
02:33:44,719 --> 02:33:46,559
you had the big head and then get back you

3291
02:33:46,559 --> 02:33:49,040
had the big hands. Ludacris is big on the big

3292
02:33:49,239 --> 02:33:50,559
hand gimmicks stuff.

3293
02:33:50,639 --> 02:33:52,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that, but I don't know. Check out

3294
02:33:54,159 --> 02:33:57,079
try the try the uh Martial Arts music video and

3295
02:33:57,120 --> 02:33:59,239
Dennis Disco Neon drench beat him up where every punch

3296
02:33:59,319 --> 02:34:02,760
kick and comos to the music. So yeah, you can

3297
02:34:03,520 --> 02:34:06,879
supposedly upload I don't think I'm making this all up.

3298
02:34:10,120 --> 02:34:11,879
Speaker 4: People are making rematch Emig.

3299
02:34:11,639 --> 02:34:13,719
Speaker 1: Boss's Belly from Baandleis with killer move in your own

3300
02:34:13,719 --> 02:34:17,760
sing sure tracks and you're no. There's a demo available though,

3301
02:34:19,479 --> 02:34:22,360
add your own custom songs and fight endlessly in our arena.

3302
02:34:22,399 --> 02:34:23,920
Infinite disco solar co op.

3303
02:34:24,600 --> 02:34:26,159
Speaker 2: That's a neat concept, bright to music.

3304
02:34:26,239 --> 02:34:28,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, so cool. I don't know. Try it out.

3305
02:34:29,159 --> 02:34:31,000
Speaker 2: Let's to put K pop demon Hunters in it?

3306
02:34:31,239 --> 02:34:31,440
Speaker 3: Eh?

3307
02:34:32,479 --> 02:34:32,559
Speaker 6: No?

3308
02:34:33,479 --> 02:34:35,399
Speaker 1: Okay? Well, Dan, do you want to read this one?

3309
02:34:35,600 --> 02:34:37,440
Thank you Alice. By the way, Dan, do you want

3310
02:34:37,440 --> 02:34:39,879
to read this one from Dustin? Yes.

3311
02:34:40,559 --> 02:34:43,079
Speaker 4: I have always been a person who loves the quiet life,

3312
02:34:43,319 --> 02:34:46,520
just enjoying my video games, books and shows. In the

3313
02:34:46,520 --> 02:34:49,079
past six years, that has completely changed when we had

3314
02:34:49,079 --> 02:34:50,559
our first baby, alpaca.

3315
02:34:50,639 --> 02:34:52,719
Speaker 1: I'll send you to the photos though, please.

3316
02:34:53,239 --> 02:34:55,520
Speaker 4: We found out soon after his birth there is a

3317
02:34:55,520 --> 02:34:59,040
whole national show system where alpacas are judged on their

3318
02:34:59,079 --> 02:35:03,760
fiber quality in body confirmation. This is life changing for

3319
02:35:03,840 --> 02:35:06,319
us and we are now part of our state Alpaca

3320
02:35:06,399 --> 02:35:10,239
Association board and we go to multiple shows each year

3321
02:35:10,280 --> 02:35:12,879
with our alpacas. I've said outpaca a lot more than

3322
02:35:12,879 --> 02:35:13,399
they usually do.

3323
02:35:13,680 --> 02:35:14,680
Speaker 1: I love this so much.

3324
02:35:14,879 --> 02:35:18,079
Speaker 4: I am actually in the ring with the judges assisting them.

3325
02:35:18,680 --> 02:35:21,719
This has completely changed my life from being introverted and

3326
02:35:21,840 --> 02:35:26,319
anxious to becoming more extroverted, though the anxiety is still there.

3327
02:35:26,799 --> 02:35:30,280
Now my question, what exotic animal would you like to

3328
02:35:30,319 --> 02:35:32,799
devote your time towards if there was a humane show

3329
02:35:32,879 --> 02:35:36,760
system for them from Dustin? Wow, Dustin, that's a whole.

3330
02:35:36,920 --> 02:35:38,600
That's a saga. That's very interesting.

3331
02:35:38,600 --> 02:35:41,280
Speaker 1: Look at the photos. Yeah, look at the photos in

3332
02:35:41,319 --> 02:35:43,040
that discord. I just saw you the phone. Look at

3333
02:35:43,040 --> 02:35:48,600
that last one. That's a cute animal. That's good. Oh,

3334
02:35:50,040 --> 02:35:53,239
I get that. I would. I mean, I'm fairly outgoing

3335
02:35:53,399 --> 02:35:55,479
to like the fact that they kind of brought you

3336
02:35:55,680 --> 02:36:00,440
out of that sphere is even more emboldening. That's great.

3337
02:36:02,079 --> 02:36:05,239
Good for you. Very glad to hear that. I love that.

3338
02:36:05,319 --> 02:36:07,280
Speaker 4: I love hearing about Like, oh, here's the like I

3339
02:36:07,559 --> 02:36:10,159
found this key that unlocked, Like, oh, I've always been

3340
02:36:10,399 --> 02:36:12,840
missing shy or whatever, and now it's like I found

3341
02:36:12,840 --> 02:36:13,799
my thing and now we're cool.

3342
02:36:14,319 --> 02:36:17,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not pacas for him. They are cool looking.

3343
02:36:17,120 --> 02:36:21,040
I don't know pacas might. Looking at these photos, I

3344
02:36:21,079 --> 02:36:22,440
think mine's al Pakas.

3345
02:36:22,639 --> 02:36:29,719
Speaker 4: But I'm coming around cats exact. I know they're not exotic,

3346
02:36:29,799 --> 02:36:30,600
but I don't know how much.

3347
02:36:30,440 --> 02:36:33,319
Speaker 1: I talked about cats are exotic. They're weird.

3348
02:36:34,079 --> 02:36:37,360
Speaker 4: I am very fascinated by how weird cats are.

3349
02:36:37,479 --> 02:36:38,760
Speaker 1: It's my first real cat.

3350
02:36:40,680 --> 02:36:41,440
Speaker 2: The cat family.

3351
02:36:41,559 --> 02:36:43,120
Speaker 1: Cats are the Kojima of pets.

3352
02:36:43,840 --> 02:36:47,360
Speaker 4: They're just fucking weirdos. He was fucking drinking from the

3353
02:36:47,399 --> 02:36:50,120
dog's water bowl this morning, and I was just curious

3354
02:36:50,120 --> 02:36:52,079
because he reacts everything weird, and I put an ice

3355
02:36:52,120 --> 02:36:55,399
cube in the bowl and it just broke his fucking

3356
02:36:55,799 --> 02:36:58,479
It's just he stopped drinking and he was just looking

3357
02:36:58,479 --> 02:37:00,399
at like what the fuck. He takes like both pause,

3358
02:37:00,520 --> 02:37:04,440
He's like what the fuck is this and like investigating it.

3359
02:37:04,879 --> 02:37:07,600
I love this fucking dude so much. Like Boss is

3360
02:37:08,079 --> 02:37:11,399
great and like it's interesting because, like you know, he's

3361
02:37:11,479 --> 02:37:13,760
not like we have two cavalier dogs and so they're

3362
02:37:13,760 --> 02:37:15,559
always just well gizmos, always like.

3363
02:37:15,520 --> 02:37:16,680
Speaker 1: Oh love me, love me, look at me.

3364
02:37:17,000 --> 02:37:20,719
Speaker 4: And Boss is just like when he wants it, he

3365
02:37:20,920 --> 02:37:23,600
is like please pet me, like I love this. I'll perr.

3366
02:37:23,600 --> 02:37:25,559
I'm just like I love this. But the second he's

3367
02:37:25,600 --> 02:37:27,559
not into it, it's like a fuck off and he

3368
02:37:27,559 --> 02:37:29,479
will just go stare at a wall for two hours.

3369
02:37:29,639 --> 02:37:31,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just love how.

3370
02:37:31,520 --> 02:37:32,079
Speaker 4: Weird he is.

3371
02:37:32,200 --> 02:37:34,120
Speaker 1: They're such strange animals, Like.

3372
02:37:34,200 --> 02:37:36,360
Speaker 4: Yes, I love it, I get it. Love bos.

3373
02:37:36,399 --> 02:37:39,799
Speaker 1: They've carried over such weird jungle behavior that they haven't forgotten.

3374
02:37:40,000 --> 02:37:43,559
Like dogs and cats are so intelligent in their own ways.

3375
02:37:43,600 --> 02:37:47,399
Like dogs are intelligent in ways that make them so

3376
02:37:50,040 --> 02:37:51,959
it's easy to look at the way a dog acts

3377
02:37:52,000 --> 02:37:54,600
around us, and it's easy for us to project our

3378
02:37:55,079 --> 02:37:57,680
intelligence onto them. She's like, yeah, they get how I live.

3379
02:37:57,719 --> 02:38:00,639
They get like how they they form into our lifestyle,

3380
02:38:00,719 --> 02:38:02,639
and they understand what we're going for and they kind

3381
02:38:02,680 --> 02:38:07,120
of like mold themselves to meet that. Cats are doing

3382
02:38:07,120 --> 02:38:09,200
their own thing and they're so curious in a way

3383
02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:11,680
that it's like they're like, what is this ice cube

3384
02:38:11,719 --> 02:38:13,520
up to? What the fuck is going on here? I

3385
02:38:13,559 --> 02:38:15,159
don't know if I trust this thing. I'm going to

3386
02:38:15,239 --> 02:38:17,840
check it out. I'll report back to the hive in

3387
02:38:17,879 --> 02:38:18,159
a bit.

3388
02:38:19,120 --> 02:38:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like dogs can't hide their emotions, like

3389
02:38:22,000 --> 02:38:25,200
Gizmo is NonStop just like oh hey, hey, I want

3390
02:38:25,200 --> 02:38:26,840
some pats and stuff. Oh I want this, I want this,

3391
02:38:27,000 --> 02:38:31,959
and boss, Like they can't express emotions really, like it's

3392
02:38:32,120 --> 02:38:34,760
so so different and having them both in the same

3393
02:38:34,799 --> 02:38:38,799
place is fascinating.

3394
02:38:37,799 --> 02:38:41,479
Speaker 3: Very different in my brief experience with cats, I feel

3395
02:38:41,479 --> 02:38:45,280
like dogs are so emotionally intelligent, and if I'm sick

3396
02:38:45,600 --> 02:38:49,159
or if I'm upset, my dog knows even more than

3397
02:38:49,200 --> 02:38:51,600
normal to sit in my lap and just hang out

3398
02:38:51,600 --> 02:38:53,479
with me and give me lots of cuds because he

3399
02:38:53,559 --> 02:38:56,200
knows I'm upset. What the cat I was growing up

3400
02:38:56,200 --> 02:38:58,680
with must have been like either there, that's like a

3401
02:38:58,719 --> 02:39:01,319
normal cat, or mine was like on like the spectrum.

3402
02:39:01,360 --> 02:39:04,639
He like could not process emotion at all, and if

3403
02:39:04,639 --> 02:39:06,200
I wasn't having a good day, he was like, that's

3404
02:39:06,239 --> 02:39:07,440
not my fucking problem.

3405
02:39:07,479 --> 02:39:08,760
Speaker 2: And I don't really give a shit.

3406
02:39:09,280 --> 02:39:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had all the like sinus shit in the

3407
02:39:11,079 --> 02:39:13,399
last year or so, and like you know, I've had

3408
02:39:13,440 --> 02:39:15,879
a couple of procedures and been laid up for a

3409
02:39:15,879 --> 02:39:19,600
few days, and both times it's like Gizmo has been like, oh, hey,

3410
02:39:19,719 --> 02:39:21,159
I'm gonna be with you dad, even though it's not

3411
02:39:21,200 --> 02:39:23,520
our normal time. I'm gonna go under the covers and stuff,

3412
02:39:23,559 --> 02:39:25,959
and he's just curling up under my arm and being

3413
02:39:26,000 --> 02:39:29,600
like extra sweet like dogs like it. It feels like

3414
02:39:29,639 --> 02:39:31,520
bullshit to say it, but like it really does feel

3415
02:39:31,520 --> 02:39:34,559
like they can tell how you're feeling in it just accordingly,

3416
02:39:34,600 --> 02:39:34,799
you know.

3417
02:39:35,479 --> 02:39:38,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think O mut did.

3418
02:39:40,479 --> 02:39:45,120
Speaker 1: Yes, sorry our cat. Yeah. I think cats are more

3419
02:39:45,559 --> 02:39:47,879
Dogs are way more outgoing, and I think they're more

3420
02:39:48,079 --> 02:39:55,159
like eager to earn your appreciation by showing you that

3421
02:39:55,159 --> 02:39:57,440
they understand how you're feeling. I would say our cats

3422
02:39:57,440 --> 02:39:59,520
do that too, and like Amanda sick, Luna like curls

3423
02:39:59,600 --> 02:40:04,799
up on her arm the two I had before we met.

3424
02:40:04,879 --> 02:40:07,319
They also like kind of sleep near me when I'm

3425
02:40:07,319 --> 02:40:11,120
not feeling well. But yeah, there's a difference though. Dogs

3426
02:40:11,159 --> 02:40:14,799
are just so outright, like all I care about today

3427
02:40:14,920 --> 02:40:17,639
is making you feel better. Yes, yeah. Cats are like

3428
02:40:18,799 --> 02:40:20,799
this is all I care about for like ten minutes,

3429
02:40:21,000 --> 02:40:23,040
and then it's like, well, I want to be over

3430
02:40:23,079 --> 02:40:25,600
here now my friends. My friends are doing something.

3431
02:40:25,639 --> 02:40:28,120
Speaker 2: I got you I don't care.

3432
02:40:28,360 --> 02:40:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting difference, but I think they're both

3433
02:40:31,879 --> 02:40:33,719
valuable in their own right. And I also I do

3434
02:40:33,799 --> 02:40:36,200
agree with you, like there's something really nice about watching

3435
02:40:36,200 --> 02:40:38,559
an animal learn it in real time, and cats are

3436
02:40:38,559 --> 02:40:42,680
really passionate about learning and figuring things out and solving crime.

3437
02:40:43,040 --> 02:40:45,639
Speaker 2: I don't think that my dog wants to solve anything.

3438
02:40:45,840 --> 02:40:46,879
I don't think they care.

3439
02:40:47,479 --> 02:40:50,159
Speaker 4: It's it's so funny saying like like, let's say a

3440
02:40:50,239 --> 02:40:53,159
package is left at the front door. Razor will see it,

3441
02:40:53,239 --> 02:40:57,040
and Short there's freaking out because something's different. And then

3442
02:40:57,120 --> 02:40:59,319
Gizmo from another room will be like, oh, this seems

3443
02:40:59,319 --> 02:41:02,000
like an emergency, and he'll run up and he'll start screaming,

3444
02:41:02,399 --> 02:41:06,000
and Boss will just be sitting there, does not give

3445
02:41:06,120 --> 02:41:09,159
a fuck, will barely be bothered to open his eyes,

3446
02:41:09,399 --> 02:41:10,799
just like these fucking idiots.

3447
02:41:11,360 --> 02:41:15,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cats. Cats are like, it's cat's world. We're

3448
02:41:15,600 --> 02:41:18,200
all just living in it us and love. Yeah, I

3449
02:41:18,280 --> 02:41:20,159
respect it. I have so much respect for Boss. I

3450
02:41:20,239 --> 02:41:21,239
think we're anyway.

3451
02:41:21,399 --> 02:41:25,319
Speaker 3: I think a would probably be like, yeah, exactly, it

3452
02:41:25,360 --> 02:41:26,559
would be interesting.

3453
02:41:27,000 --> 02:41:29,840
Speaker 1: Monkey, A flamingo would be real good.

3454
02:41:31,760 --> 02:41:35,719
Speaker 4: I think monkey, like what is the chimpanzees that are

3455
02:41:35,760 --> 02:41:37,239
the main like little ones that hop around.

3456
02:41:38,239 --> 02:41:39,959
Speaker 1: Chimpanzees are the ones with the long arms. I can

3457
02:41:40,159 --> 02:41:40,799
tear you apart.

3458
02:41:41,360 --> 02:41:43,000
Speaker 4: But I mean that's like when you picture like the

3459
02:41:43,040 --> 02:41:44,760
little fun guys that go around and.

3460
02:41:46,360 --> 02:41:48,920
Speaker 1: Lankey Kongs a chimpanzee, he's the long I don't want

3461
02:41:48,920 --> 02:41:51,920
to wrong, that's Lanky Kong's not allowed in my house.

3462
02:41:51,920 --> 02:41:53,879
He's a chimpanzee. The ones you're thinking of, I think

3463
02:41:53,879 --> 02:41:56,239
are the diddy kongs, which are more the like spider

3464
02:41:56,280 --> 02:41:58,600
monkeys or just monkeys, oh little dudes.

3465
02:41:58,680 --> 02:42:01,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but I also I really felt strongly about

3466
02:42:01,200 --> 02:42:03,639
how I needed to own a monkey before I was fifty.

3467
02:42:03,559 --> 02:42:05,200
Speaker 1: And a lot of people have had that base.

3468
02:42:05,440 --> 02:42:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3469
02:42:05,760 --> 02:42:07,959
Speaker 4: But yeah, I've seen some documentaries and as I've learned

3470
02:42:07,959 --> 02:42:11,639
more about Monty, I've abandoned that dream. I've seen Nope. Yes,

3471
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:14,360
but I also watch a what project nim was the

3472
02:42:14,360 --> 02:42:15,879
thing about the people in the seventies that tried to

3473
02:42:15,959 --> 02:42:17,920
raise a monkey as a pet and it didn't go well.

3474
02:42:18,040 --> 02:42:20,239
Speaker 1: That's what it's based on it or inspired by it.

3475
02:42:21,239 --> 02:42:24,680
Speaker 3: In this In this like example, it talks about how

3476
02:42:24,719 --> 02:42:27,319
it's important that it's humane and that the animals treated well.

3477
02:42:27,440 --> 02:42:29,200
Speaker 2: Can they also not kill you? Like could it be

3478
02:42:29,280 --> 02:42:29,959
like a black bear?

3479
02:42:30,000 --> 02:42:33,520
Speaker 3: Because it would be really fun to have like black

3480
02:42:33,559 --> 02:42:35,479
bears and like we all hang out, but I don't

3481
02:42:35,520 --> 02:42:38,040
want them to rip me to shreds.

3482
02:42:37,680 --> 02:42:41,239
Speaker 1: Ah, I know, I don't know. I think alpacas are

3483
02:42:41,280 --> 02:42:44,200
like not dangerous creatures, so like I would say, like

3484
02:42:44,239 --> 02:42:46,479
an Arctic fox, with. I know people who have owned

3485
02:42:46,559 --> 02:42:48,920
Arctic foxes who like look gorgeous, but they have they

3486
02:42:48,959 --> 02:42:51,760
do have to still live like in the backyard under

3487
02:42:51,799 --> 02:42:53,639
the like they need a shelter in the backyard. They

3488
02:42:53,639 --> 02:42:55,040
can't live inside there. I have.

3489
02:42:56,559 --> 02:42:57,440
Speaker 2: The key on stuff.

3490
02:42:58,399 --> 02:43:00,600
Speaker 1: They're just that I don't mentally, I don't think they

3491
02:43:00,639 --> 02:43:02,000
can be inside.

3492
02:43:01,639 --> 02:43:02,719
Speaker 2: Because they'll eat the baby.

3493
02:43:03,959 --> 02:43:06,200
Speaker 4: When I worked at the movie theater, there was a

3494
02:43:06,239 --> 02:43:11,159
fucking guy that had in his pocket like a sugar squirrel,

3495
02:43:11,360 --> 02:43:14,600
sugar sugar glider, and so it's.

3496
02:43:14,479 --> 02:43:19,360
Speaker 1: Like he throws his enemy basis for him exactly. Yes, yes,

3497
02:43:19,840 --> 02:43:20,479
he would, like.

3498
02:43:20,440 --> 02:43:23,479
Speaker 6: He'd be working the concession you see. It's it's a

3499
02:43:23,479 --> 02:43:29,239
man first persons. A man's in it, yeah, right, sugar glider.

3500
02:43:29,280 --> 02:43:31,280
But it's this dude who lost his wife. It's in

3501
02:43:31,399 --> 02:43:34,239
the body.

3502
02:43:33,520 --> 02:43:35,840
Speaker 2: Forty hours into the game. It's like he's like, kill me.

3503
02:43:36,159 --> 02:43:38,040
I went to the world and your friend has a

3504
02:43:38,479 --> 02:43:39,760
right like what I saw.

3505
02:43:40,079 --> 02:43:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, oh the trauma.

3506
02:43:42,159 --> 02:43:45,680
Speaker 4: Anyway, this fucking dude would be working the concession stand

3507
02:43:45,799 --> 02:43:47,600
for like four hours and then he would get his

3508
02:43:47,639 --> 02:43:49,840
fifteen minute shitty break and then you go up there and

3509
02:43:49,879 --> 02:43:52,120
be like, check out my fucking squirrel thing that lives

3510
02:43:52,120 --> 02:43:54,280
in my pocket and we don't be in the break room, Like,

3511
02:43:54,319 --> 02:43:56,040
what the fuck? This guy's been in new pocket the

3512
02:43:56,040 --> 02:43:58,040
whole time, and he would showhim up and he had

3513
02:43:58,040 --> 02:44:02,159
like the crazy flying squirrel arm. And it's weird that

3514
02:44:02,200 --> 02:44:03,799
they could just live in a pocket all time. I

3515
02:44:04,079 --> 02:44:06,760
feel like there has to be some sort of weird Uh,

3516
02:44:06,879 --> 02:44:08,159
this isn't humane.

3517
02:44:09,000 --> 02:44:10,639
Speaker 1: That should tell him not to do that.

3518
02:44:10,639 --> 02:44:14,120
Speaker 4: That like, wh'm just living in an AMC uniforms pocket

3519
02:44:14,200 --> 02:44:16,559
for many, many hours a day is weird to me.

3520
02:44:16,799 --> 02:44:18,559
But it was still like, Man, that guy seems cool.

3521
02:44:18,559 --> 02:44:21,639
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you didn't stay in touch with said man. No,

3522
02:44:21,719 --> 02:44:25,440
not this guy. Yeah, so I wondered, Yeah, I wonder

3523
02:44:25,479 --> 02:44:27,159
what's going on with the shut sugar glider is a

3524
02:44:27,159 --> 02:44:29,920
good answer too. I would like a sugar lighter. I

3525
02:44:29,920 --> 02:44:30,200
want to.

3526
02:44:30,479 --> 02:44:34,239
Speaker 3: I worry that it's not. I mean, readers can obviously

3527
02:44:34,239 --> 02:44:35,920
correct me. I feel like most of the time when

3528
02:44:35,959 --> 02:44:39,120
I've seen someone who owns a sugar glider, the sugar

3529
02:44:39,159 --> 02:44:42,760
lighter doesn't seem that stoked because they're nocturnal, and so

3530
02:44:42,840 --> 02:44:46,159
most of the time instinct you're kind of going against

3531
02:44:46,159 --> 02:44:49,920
the animal's instincts having it, but maybe there's like a

3532
02:44:49,959 --> 02:44:52,600
way to do it really humanly where everybody's like stoked

3533
02:44:52,600 --> 02:44:53,120
to be there.

3534
02:44:53,159 --> 02:44:55,760
Speaker 2: But like the benefit of an l paca is like.

3535
02:44:56,360 --> 02:45:00,799
Speaker 3: It's already very domesticated and wants to chill and like

3536
02:45:01,840 --> 02:45:04,799
casually eat next to you. That seems like a good

3537
02:45:04,879 --> 02:45:07,200
animal that you can bond with and have fun with

3538
02:45:07,200 --> 02:45:09,399
without harming its natural instincts.

3539
02:45:10,079 --> 02:45:11,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was always skeptical, Like, you know, you'd be

3540
02:45:11,760 --> 02:45:13,920
at a party in college and somebody just brings a

3541
02:45:14,000 --> 02:45:17,159
fucking giant snake and it's like the snake wants to

3542
02:45:17,200 --> 02:45:19,639
be here near all this jungle juice and ship in a.

3543
02:45:19,920 --> 02:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have like a parrot, and it's just like,

3544
02:45:21,719 --> 02:45:22,319
is this parrot?

3545
02:45:23,159 --> 02:45:23,520
Speaker 1: Okay?

3546
02:45:23,760 --> 02:45:27,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take it over the guy who brings the

3547
02:45:27,559 --> 02:45:30,639
acoustic guitar to the party, but not by much the snakes.

3548
02:45:30,760 --> 02:45:33,000
Speaker 1: Like, let's do some shots.

3549
02:45:34,559 --> 02:45:36,559
Speaker 4: Okay, Look, I would take a shot with a snake.

3550
02:45:38,319 --> 02:45:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I really really really don't like snakes, and I've

3551
02:45:43,959 --> 02:45:45,879
tried my whole life to get over it. I don't

3552
02:45:45,959 --> 02:45:46,319
like them.

3553
02:45:46,799 --> 02:45:48,440
Speaker 4: Have you done the thing? What's the deal with cats

3554
02:45:48,440 --> 02:45:50,079
where it's like put a cucumber behind him?

3555
02:45:50,399 --> 02:45:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't.

3556
02:45:51,040 --> 02:45:55,079
Speaker 3: Think it's a snake, and they don't like it. It's

3557
02:45:55,120 --> 02:45:59,520
gonna scare them generally, like it's an instinctual right behind.

3558
02:46:00,680 --> 02:46:03,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might scare them.

3559
02:46:03,639 --> 02:46:07,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't like snakes. Well, thank you, Dustin.

3560
02:46:08,120 --> 02:46:09,799
Hopefully we answer your question. All right, I'll read the

3561
02:46:09,879 --> 02:46:14,799
last one from Rachel, who's written in before Hello. All,

3562
02:46:15,000 --> 02:46:16,680
I have been on a weight loss journey starting in

3563
02:46:16,680 --> 02:46:20,479
twenty twenty four and have now hit seventy six pounds lost.

3564
02:46:20,600 --> 02:46:22,719
Speaker 4: Jesus.

3565
02:46:22,879 --> 02:46:25,360
Speaker 1: I've been watching calories, protein and how many servings and

3566
02:46:25,399 --> 02:46:27,600
fruits and vegetables I'm getting. I feel like I'm getting

3567
02:46:27,639 --> 02:46:29,280
to the point where I need to start exercising, but

3568
02:46:29,319 --> 02:46:32,280
I'm not finding the motivation. I work ten hour shifts,

3569
02:46:32,840 --> 02:46:35,920
eight days in a row on night shift, so for example,

3570
02:46:36,120 --> 02:46:39,719
six pm to four am. Maybe a nurse, a nurse

3571
02:46:39,840 --> 02:46:40,040
or a.

3572
02:46:40,000 --> 02:46:43,120
Speaker 4: Medica god, so I'm six pm to four am.

3573
02:46:43,200 --> 02:46:46,200
Speaker 1: That's I'm assuming if it's like my siblings, like, yeah,

3574
02:46:46,239 --> 02:46:49,200
eight days on, eight days off. Not that that makes

3575
02:46:49,200 --> 02:46:51,639
it easier. I'm just saying maybe a nurse. I don't know.

3576
02:46:52,079 --> 02:46:55,600
My free time between work hours is sleeping, obviously, cooking food,

3577
02:46:55,719 --> 02:46:58,079
spot cleaned the house, to keep it presentable and playing

3578
02:46:58,239 --> 02:47:00,959
maybe an hour of video games. Charle tried all the

3579
02:47:01,040 --> 02:47:04,840
quote unquote hacks. Place out your exercise clothes, schedule your workout,

3580
02:47:04,959 --> 02:47:07,360
set a timer, and if you want to keep doing it.

3581
02:47:07,479 --> 02:47:10,280
So far, nothing has worked because I just talk myself

3582
02:47:10,280 --> 02:47:12,239
out of it. I used to bodybuild my early twenties

3583
02:47:12,280 --> 02:47:14,399
and got so burnt out it harmed my relationship with food.

3584
02:47:14,680 --> 02:47:16,639
So I'm trying to take everything extremely slow and not

3585
02:47:16,680 --> 02:47:19,520
find myself back up in my heaviest weight. Honestly, any

3586
02:47:19,559 --> 02:47:22,639
offbeat advice will be nice. I have a bench, adjustable weights,

3587
02:47:22,799 --> 02:47:26,120
resistance bands, a treadmill, and a sweet dog to walk.

3588
02:47:26,159 --> 02:47:29,040
I'm just lacking the motivation. Please, please, please, any advice

3589
02:47:29,040 --> 02:47:32,079
would be greatly appreciated. That's Rachel from Michigan. I figured

3590
02:47:32,079 --> 02:47:33,799
this would be good for us. We're not health experts,

3591
02:47:33,840 --> 02:47:36,959
but we all like at one point or another, training

3592
02:47:36,959 --> 02:47:44,159
for marathons, weightlifting, trying different workout routines, et cetera. So

3593
02:47:44,239 --> 02:47:46,680
I figured, yeah, it's tough.

3594
02:47:46,760 --> 02:47:49,120
Speaker 4: Like with the exercise stuff, I've always found that the

3595
02:47:49,200 --> 02:47:52,840
thing that matters the most is that you're actually enjoying it,

3596
02:47:52,959 --> 02:47:55,159
because like if you're just doing like going through the motions.

3597
02:47:55,239 --> 02:47:56,479
You show up at the gym and just like I

3598
02:47:56,520 --> 02:47:58,120
should probably do this, and I would probably do that,

3599
02:47:58,200 --> 02:47:59,319
Like doesn't really work.

3600
02:47:59,319 --> 02:48:00,440
Speaker 1: You need to have an actual plan.

3601
02:48:01,600 --> 02:48:04,239
Speaker 4: So last year, the marathon stuff really worked well for

3602
02:48:04,280 --> 02:48:06,399
me because I did two half marathons last year and

3603
02:48:06,440 --> 02:48:09,520
that is is a strict schedule and it's like if

3604
02:48:09,520 --> 02:48:11,399
you don't follow this schedule, you're not going to be

3605
02:48:11,399 --> 02:48:13,840
able to do the thing. And so this year I

3606
02:48:13,920 --> 02:48:16,159
tried to do a full marathon, signed up for it,

3607
02:48:16,319 --> 02:48:18,799
and I was training for it, and you know, in

3608
02:48:18,799 --> 02:48:21,840
the last like week or two, it's just like shit,

3609
02:48:22,040 --> 02:48:23,959
I mean it had been more than two weeks that

3610
02:48:24,000 --> 02:48:26,200
the pain had been happening, but like my shin splints

3611
02:48:26,200 --> 02:48:28,920
and shit were like not good and everything I was seeing,

3612
02:48:28,959 --> 02:48:30,879
like I was seeing physical therapist and they're like give

3613
02:48:30,879 --> 02:48:32,479
it a week or two break or whatever. And then

3614
02:48:32,479 --> 02:48:34,159
it's like you try to go back to it. It's like, well, shit,

3615
02:48:34,200 --> 02:48:36,319
I'm supposed to run fourteen miles on Saturday.

3616
02:48:36,360 --> 02:48:37,520
Speaker 1: I can't fucking do that.

3617
02:48:38,040 --> 02:48:41,920
Speaker 4: So I had it sucks, I had to stop, and

3618
02:48:41,959 --> 02:48:43,959
so it's like I'm not running the marathon, you know,

3619
02:48:44,040 --> 02:48:47,440
I'm not doing that this year. So I'm pivoting, and

3620
02:48:47,879 --> 02:48:51,200
I think where I'm at now because I'm writing that

3621
02:48:51,280 --> 02:48:53,200
kind of transitional period now where I'm just trying to

3622
02:48:53,239 --> 02:48:56,440
like figure out a different way to do this, and

3623
02:48:56,479 --> 02:48:58,959
I'm trying to work out every morning right now. And

3624
02:49:00,200 --> 02:49:02,440
the thing that works for me is when I wake up,

3625
02:49:03,200 --> 02:49:04,520
all I want to do is go back to bed.

3626
02:49:04,639 --> 02:49:06,760
You know, if the alarm goes off at seven fifteen,

3627
02:49:07,440 --> 02:49:09,520
all I fucking want to do is sleep for another

3628
02:49:09,760 --> 02:49:14,159
fifteen minutes, an hour, whatever it is. But you do

3629
02:49:14,319 --> 02:49:16,440
realize you have to remind yourself that, like you do

3630
02:49:16,559 --> 02:49:19,280
have the power, like there is nothing actually stopping you.

3631
02:49:19,440 --> 02:49:21,719
Well I don't know, schedule whatever, you know, but like

3632
02:49:22,319 --> 02:49:25,799
if nothing schedule wise is stopping you, you just have

3633
02:49:25,920 --> 02:49:27,680
to get up and do the thing. And it might

3634
02:49:28,040 --> 02:49:30,399
suck ass. You don't want to do it. It's the

3635
02:49:30,479 --> 02:49:33,000
last thing you want to do. But if you want

3636
02:49:33,040 --> 02:49:34,479
to do it, you can just stand up and do it.

3637
02:49:34,520 --> 02:49:37,280
And then after a certain amount of time it does

3638
02:49:37,440 --> 02:49:40,200
just become habit. Your body will adjust to it. It's

3639
02:49:40,239 --> 02:49:42,079
like you are going to start waking up at the time,

3640
02:49:42,239 --> 02:49:44,120
whether you want to or not. I gonn have a

3641
02:49:44,360 --> 02:49:46,600
you know, if I'm in that you know, stretch of

3642
02:49:46,639 --> 02:49:48,799
like I'm being good about working out every morning at

3643
02:49:48,840 --> 02:49:51,559
seven fifteen, I could be drinking until three in the

3644
02:49:51,600 --> 02:49:53,959
morning with friends, and then my body's going to wake

3645
02:49:54,000 --> 02:49:56,000
me up at seven fifteen because it's like that's what

3646
02:49:56,000 --> 02:49:59,280
it's used to. So you just have to force yourself

3647
02:49:59,280 --> 02:50:03,360
to at a certain point and then habit does actually

3648
02:50:03,399 --> 02:50:06,200
really work with your brain and body and you'll do it.

3649
02:50:06,239 --> 02:50:08,920
But there's also the eating stuff and everything, so like, yeah,

3650
02:50:08,920 --> 02:50:10,680
it's it's something I'm thinking about a lot because I

3651
02:50:10,760 --> 02:50:12,399
am in between that stuff right now.

3652
02:50:12,440 --> 02:50:17,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, like, first off,

3653
02:50:18,200 --> 02:50:20,200
the fact that you lost seventy six pounds is already

3654
02:50:20,200 --> 02:50:23,959
a fucking huge treatment itself, so like you've gotten farther

3655
02:50:24,079 --> 02:50:26,360
than the vast majority of people who set out to

3656
02:50:26,399 --> 02:50:31,319
try to do a fraction of that, So congrats. Yeah,

3657
02:50:31,440 --> 02:50:34,959
I would say, like habit forming is key, but also

3658
02:50:35,760 --> 02:50:37,879
I think in order to assist the habit forming, there

3659
02:50:37,879 --> 02:50:40,520
are several things like anytime I go for a run

3660
02:50:40,639 --> 02:50:42,799
or I go to the gym, I'm always looking forward

3661
02:50:42,840 --> 02:50:46,600
to the music. I make playlists for running, I make

3662
02:50:46,600 --> 02:50:49,079
playlists for the gym, I make playlists for different kind

3663
02:50:49,079 --> 02:50:53,760
of things I'm doing. At a certain point, you stop

3664
02:50:53,879 --> 02:50:55,360
just looking forward to it. It's like you play a

3665
02:50:55,360 --> 02:50:57,239
certain song on the way to the gym, whether you're

3666
02:50:57,319 --> 02:51:00,479
driving or I walk to the gym, whatever you're doing

3667
02:51:00,639 --> 02:51:02,840
or getting like stretching for your run. You hear the

3668
02:51:02,840 --> 02:51:05,280
first song in that playlist and it gets you kind

3669
02:51:05,319 --> 02:51:07,200
of gets your heart rate up and gets you like going,

3670
02:51:07,319 --> 02:51:11,520
like there actually are physiological the studies about the physiological response,

3671
02:51:11,559 --> 02:51:15,520
which is why I stopped. I try not to listen

3672
02:51:15,559 --> 02:51:18,120
to those songs when I'm not working out, because then

3673
02:51:18,159 --> 02:51:21,280
my heart rate actually I could feel it going up. Yeah.

3674
02:51:21,520 --> 02:51:23,360
That just plays into the habit forming aspect of it,

3675
02:51:23,399 --> 02:51:25,239
where it's like, all right, I don't want to go

3676
02:51:25,280 --> 02:51:28,959
to the gym right now, but I'm really enjoying laying

3677
02:51:28,959 --> 02:51:31,559
in bed, or I'm really enjoying I would love to

3678
02:51:31,639 --> 02:51:34,280
just do lunch at home, but I'm going to go

3679
02:51:34,280 --> 02:51:36,319
to the gym because you know, like now I'm just

3680
02:51:36,360 --> 02:51:38,639
going to play the kick this playlist into gear. But

3681
02:51:38,760 --> 02:51:40,440
I would also say that another like I don't know

3682
02:51:40,479 --> 02:51:43,239
if this is a mental hack, and like this worked

3683
02:51:43,239 --> 02:51:46,719
for me. It's like way back in the day I started,

3684
02:51:48,200 --> 02:51:51,079
I would say really really hone in on how good

3685
02:51:51,120 --> 02:51:54,719
you feel after the workout and enjoy that feeling. So

3686
02:51:54,760 --> 02:51:57,360
the next day, it's like you're working toward that. You

3687
02:51:57,440 --> 02:51:59,559
might wake up and it would feel great to stay

3688
02:51:59,559 --> 02:52:02,719
in bed, would feel great to stay at home for lunch,

3689
02:52:02,799 --> 02:52:06,120
when it would feel great to just generally not go

3690
02:52:06,159 --> 02:52:07,719
to the gym or not saying you have to go

3691
02:52:07,719 --> 02:52:09,840
to the gym. That's another hack. It's like you could

3692
02:52:09,879 --> 02:52:14,280
do some really fucking tiring workouts at home. The workouts

3693
02:52:14,280 --> 02:52:15,840
that really exhausts me the most are the ones I

3694
02:52:15,840 --> 02:52:18,360
do at home that are all body weight and like

3695
02:52:18,479 --> 02:52:22,959
course rank kind of stuff. But there's a certain point

3696
02:52:23,000 --> 02:52:24,319
in the week where I like, it's I don't know

3697
02:52:24,360 --> 02:52:26,879
tomorrow morning, Thursday, I'm like, I'm not gonna want to

3698
02:52:26,879 --> 02:52:28,559
go to the gym. But then I'm like, as good

3699
02:52:28,559 --> 02:52:30,159
as it feels laying better right now, I know I'm

3700
02:52:30,159 --> 02:52:32,959
gonna feel like I'm walking on clouds when I'm done.

3701
02:52:33,479 --> 02:52:36,000
So like every time you finish a workout, pay attention

3702
02:52:36,079 --> 02:52:39,360
to like that that dopamine rush, Like it's almost like

3703
02:52:39,399 --> 02:52:41,079
a drug, Like it sounds like if you.

3704
02:52:41,079 --> 02:52:43,840
Speaker 4: In the morning, like if you're done with your ships

3705
02:52:43,959 --> 02:52:46,479
of the night, am and it's like I'm good. I'm like,

3706
02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:49,520
it's not Carpelan for the fucking eat pizza rolls all day.

3707
02:52:49,559 --> 02:52:52,399
But it's like you got your workout in. Yeah, your steps,

3708
02:52:52,399 --> 02:52:54,000
you burnt your calories, whatever you gotta do.

3709
02:52:54,799 --> 02:52:56,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how helpful it is, but it's just

3710
02:52:56,280 --> 02:52:58,159
like I don't know next time you work out, every

3711
02:52:58,200 --> 02:53:01,159
time you work out, like really just like embrace how

3712
02:53:01,200 --> 02:53:03,600
good you feel afterward. Zero in on that and like

3713
02:53:03,639 --> 02:53:05,479
remember what it feels like and say, like, the only

3714
02:53:05,479 --> 02:53:06,680
way I'm going to feel like that is if I,

3715
02:53:06,879 --> 02:53:08,719
you know, do something and like and that's not to

3716
02:53:08,760 --> 02:53:11,040
say you don't you should have days off like that.

3717
02:53:11,479 --> 02:53:12,879
If you do every day, you're gonna burn out.

3718
02:53:12,879 --> 02:53:14,799
Speaker 4: I don't know, or do a yoga like I'm a

3719
02:53:14,840 --> 02:53:17,159
big yoga guy, and like, if you want to just

3720
02:53:17,200 --> 02:53:20,440
do every day, do yoga, like that's a great restorative thing.

3721
02:53:21,120 --> 02:53:23,760
But Mike, to touch on the music thing, like I

3722
02:53:23,799 --> 02:53:26,200
have found that like now that I'm not doing the running,

3723
02:53:26,319 --> 02:53:27,959
I can do you know, I'm doing a lot more

3724
02:53:28,000 --> 02:53:30,680
biking now because it's easier on the joints and everything,

3725
02:53:30,840 --> 02:53:32,000
and I'm trying to do it in the morning, Like

3726
02:53:32,040 --> 02:53:32,520
this morning.

3727
02:53:32,600 --> 02:53:33,040
Speaker 1: I rode.

3728
02:53:33,319 --> 02:53:35,680
Speaker 4: I did like an eight or nine mile ride this morning.

3729
02:53:36,079 --> 02:53:38,719
And I can pick, like if there's an artist or

3730
02:53:38,719 --> 02:53:41,159
something you're getting interested in, like the last year or so,

3731
02:53:41,239 --> 02:53:43,959
I'm really getting into like Kendrick Lamar. And there are

3732
02:53:43,959 --> 02:53:46,040
certain you know, albums I've not heard or whatever, so

3733
02:53:46,079 --> 02:53:47,680
it's like, all right, not a lot of albums are

3734
02:53:47,719 --> 02:53:48,959
more than like an hour or so I'm gonna go

3735
02:53:49,000 --> 02:53:51,000
on like a bike ride for an hour and listen

3736
02:53:51,040 --> 02:53:54,399
to all of you know, this one album, and uh,

3737
02:53:55,319 --> 02:53:58,239
it really does make the time go faster. And when

3738
02:53:58,239 --> 02:54:00,120
you're done in the morning, it's just like, man, I

3739
02:54:00,120 --> 02:54:02,840
I took in an album. I really enjoyed that I

3740
02:54:03,520 --> 02:54:05,440
And I'm good to go like and work even if

3741
02:54:05,440 --> 02:54:07,959
time gets away from me like it does with anyone,

3742
02:54:08,040 --> 02:54:10,879
especially us working from home. You got your shit in

3743
02:54:10,879 --> 02:54:12,319
in the morning before the day started.

3744
02:54:12,680 --> 02:54:15,840
Speaker 1: Plus the music becomes the primary thing, and like learning

3745
02:54:15,840 --> 02:54:17,879
a new or listening to a new album, the workout

3746
02:54:17,920 --> 02:54:23,040
becomes secondary. It almost like yes, brings the the scariness

3747
02:54:23,120 --> 02:54:24,239
of the workout down a bit.

3748
02:54:24,799 --> 02:54:27,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, Or like podcasts, it's like, you know, my favorite

3749
02:54:27,639 --> 02:54:30,520
podcast for Monday and Wednesday, so I know, like those

3750
02:54:30,600 --> 02:54:32,200
days if I go on a long ride or something.

3751
02:54:32,280 --> 02:54:33,600
It's like, oh great, I'll get the catch up on

3752
02:54:33,600 --> 02:54:34,280
this PODCA you get.

3753
02:54:34,200 --> 02:54:36,319
Speaker 2: To listen to a podcast. It's a nice street for yourself.

3754
02:54:37,719 --> 02:54:43,159
Speaker 3: I think for a lazy girl like me, I often

3755
02:54:43,399 --> 02:54:45,760
try and do things that are not workouts that I

3756
02:54:45,840 --> 02:54:48,239
know are good for me and that will give me

3757
02:54:48,280 --> 02:54:51,239
the dopamine rush that I am doing my best, but

3758
02:54:51,360 --> 02:54:54,120
also the comfort of being like listen, I'm also busy,

3759
02:54:54,479 --> 02:54:56,200
especially with all the travel I'm doing right now, I

3760
02:54:56,200 --> 02:54:58,440
do not have the time to work out as much

3761
02:54:58,479 --> 02:55:01,680
as I cannot go to a and so what can

3762
02:55:01,719 --> 02:55:03,719
I do that make me feel like I'm doing my best?

3763
02:55:04,200 --> 02:55:06,760
Things that I like to do are I do have

3764
02:55:07,120 --> 02:55:09,559
a fitbit, and I love just the idea of tracking

3765
02:55:09,600 --> 02:55:12,600
my steps, like go easy on yourself. If you can't

3766
02:55:12,600 --> 02:55:14,040
make it to the gym, then you can't make it

3767
02:55:14,079 --> 02:55:16,760
to the gym. But something that I think you can

3768
02:55:17,200 --> 02:55:20,319
do is hit ten thousand steps. If you go on

3769
02:55:20,399 --> 02:55:23,159
a walk, if you take the stairs, if you do

3770
02:55:23,239 --> 02:55:26,520
things that are just more walking, you can hit ten

3771
02:55:26,559 --> 02:55:27,159
thousand steps.

3772
02:55:27,159 --> 02:55:28,079
Speaker 1: And that is active.

3773
02:55:28,159 --> 02:55:30,559
Speaker 3: That is like walking a theme park for the day,

3774
02:55:30,879 --> 02:55:32,600
and so that is like a great way to stay

3775
02:55:32,920 --> 02:55:36,319
to stay active and on your feet without being like, yeah,

3776
02:55:36,319 --> 02:55:37,799
I have to go to the gym and like lift weights.

3777
02:55:37,799 --> 02:55:42,360
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that. Gopher walks, do your

3778
02:55:42,399 --> 02:55:43,000
best to.

3779
02:55:44,920 --> 02:55:47,959
Speaker 3: Walk when you feel like you could have driven, or

3780
02:55:48,000 --> 02:55:51,559
again like take the stairs, do things that just make

3781
02:55:51,600 --> 02:55:54,600
you move your body. There has been times with my

3782
02:55:54,719 --> 02:55:57,719
fitbit where I've been close, you know, like nine hundred

3783
02:55:57,760 --> 02:55:59,879
and fifty steps and I literally like, as I'm.

3784
02:55:59,799 --> 02:56:02,159
Speaker 2: Going to bed, I'm doing extra steps.

3785
02:56:02,360 --> 02:56:05,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, around the bedroom, like doing like circles dropping down

3786
02:56:05,719 --> 02:56:07,879
the stairs. I've definitely done that.

3787
02:56:07,959 --> 02:56:10,200
Speaker 3: Because when you hit ten thousand on a fit fit,

3788
02:56:10,360 --> 02:56:13,040
it gives you fireworks and it buzzes and it's like

3789
02:56:13,079 --> 02:56:19,559
you did so great down to Getting that is like

3790
02:56:19,600 --> 02:56:22,440
a great dopamine rush for me. And it also just

3791
02:56:22,520 --> 02:56:26,799
reminds me that I'm trying and that I'm doing my

3792
02:56:26,879 --> 02:56:30,040
best and I'm being thoughtful about it, right, Like there

3793
02:56:30,120 --> 02:56:32,319
is like this effort. There's sometimes like in the back

3794
02:56:32,360 --> 02:56:34,239
of my head, it's like if you're not breaking a

3795
02:56:34,280 --> 02:56:37,319
sweat and lifting weights, like you're like wasting your life,

3796
02:56:37,360 --> 02:56:43,000
And it's like give yourself patience and kindness. You've obviously

3797
02:56:43,040 --> 02:56:44,920
come a really long way. You've put a lot of

3798
02:56:44,959 --> 02:56:48,000
work in and you deserve to feel good about yourself.

3799
02:56:48,079 --> 02:56:50,760
So like, don't ever punish yourself and be like you suck,

3800
02:56:50,840 --> 02:56:52,600
like you should be going to the gym. You don't

3801
02:56:52,639 --> 02:56:54,440
need to do that to yourself ever, and you don't

3802
02:56:54,440 --> 02:56:56,799
deserve to do that to yourself for how hard you've worked.

3803
02:56:57,159 --> 02:57:00,559
Give yourself lots of grace and credit and use walking

3804
02:57:00,840 --> 02:57:05,920
as an excellent way to stay fluid and mobile and

3805
02:57:06,280 --> 02:57:07,479
give yourself lots of grace.

3806
02:57:07,840 --> 02:57:09,680
Speaker 4: And if you work from home, there's so many different

3807
02:57:09,680 --> 02:57:12,600
ways to do it. Where it's like January this year,

3808
02:57:12,879 --> 02:57:15,120
I got the most steps I've ever gotten any month

3809
02:57:15,319 --> 02:57:18,159
because I got an underdsk treadmill.

3810
02:57:18,399 --> 02:57:19,360
Speaker 1: And it's just like.

3811
02:57:19,440 --> 02:57:21,200
Speaker 4: There's so many like there's parts of my day where

3812
02:57:21,239 --> 02:57:24,120
I'm like on camera on microphone talking and I'm not

3813
02:57:24,120 --> 02:57:26,319
going to be walking during all that, but everything in

3814
02:57:26,360 --> 02:57:29,079
between where I'm just answering emails and shit like that,

3815
02:57:29,200 --> 02:57:31,319
you know, it's like just be walking, just getting tho

3816
02:57:31,319 --> 02:57:31,840
steps in.

3817
02:57:32,079 --> 02:57:32,879
Speaker 2: You can be walking.

3818
02:57:34,159 --> 02:57:36,479
Speaker 3: My other one that I actually did find that helped

3819
02:57:36,479 --> 02:57:38,440
me over the winner because it's really hard to get

3820
02:57:38,440 --> 02:57:40,000
me out of the house in the winter. It's rains,

3821
02:57:40,000 --> 02:57:41,879
a lot in Portland, and like driving to the gym

3822
02:57:42,000 --> 02:57:45,600
is not my cup of tea. In the Rain, I

3823
02:57:45,680 --> 02:57:49,120
got a TV in my area where I have like

3824
02:57:49,120 --> 02:57:53,159
my little weights, and I put on a YouTube video.

3825
02:57:53,159 --> 02:57:58,200
There's so many free YouTube people that will.

3826
02:57:58,000 --> 02:57:59,239
Speaker 2: Do a course with you.

3827
02:57:59,319 --> 02:58:01,200
Speaker 3: That way, they're telling you what to do, and that

3828
02:58:01,239 --> 02:58:03,559
makes me feel a little better than just lifting my

3829
02:58:03,600 --> 02:58:06,079
little silly weights and obviously putting them down when I

3830
02:58:06,079 --> 02:58:10,920
get tired. I like, I like a lady named Caroline Gervin.

3831
02:58:11,600 --> 02:58:14,360
You can check her out. Some of her later stuff

3832
02:58:14,399 --> 02:58:17,040
is way too hard. She's like incredibly strong. She looks

3833
02:58:17,079 --> 02:58:19,440
like a she's built like a brick shit house. But

3834
02:58:19,520 --> 02:58:23,840
like check out stuff where it's like twenty minute no repeat,

3835
02:58:24,319 --> 02:58:27,079
like or don't even do Carolyn Gervin, Like just google

3836
02:58:27,159 --> 02:58:30,520
on YouTube twenty minute no repeat, which means for twenty minutes,

3837
02:58:30,920 --> 02:58:33,440
someone's gonna do exercises and they're never gonna repeat the

3838
02:58:33,479 --> 02:58:37,079
same exercise. God send, Like you won't have to like

3839
02:58:37,559 --> 02:58:41,239
do the same goddamn squats for ten minutes. For sixty seconds,

3840
02:58:41,239 --> 02:58:43,120
you'll do an exercise and if you didn't like it,

3841
02:58:43,200 --> 02:58:45,680
you never have to do that fucking exercise again. And

3842
02:58:45,760 --> 02:58:48,440
I think that's really good for my brain, especially like

3843
02:58:48,479 --> 02:58:50,280
on days when I don't want to work out. It's like, well,

3844
02:58:50,280 --> 02:58:51,879
if I didn't like that, we're moving on to the

3845
02:58:51,920 --> 02:58:52,319
next one.

3846
02:58:52,319 --> 02:58:52,760
Speaker 2: Anyway.

3847
02:58:52,840 --> 02:58:54,799
Speaker 3: Anyway, those are all my tips from a lazy girl

3848
02:58:54,799 --> 02:58:57,200
who has to work out but doesn't want to take one.

3849
02:58:57,280 --> 02:59:00,959
Speaker 4: Do yoga. I fucking love yoga. And if you just

3850
02:59:00,959 --> 02:59:03,920
want to do the free thing, yoga with Adrian on

3851
02:59:04,520 --> 02:59:06,959
she's like the big If you just search yoga on YouTube,

3852
02:59:07,040 --> 02:59:09,399
you're gonna see yoga with Adrian and her dog Benji

3853
02:59:09,440 --> 02:59:11,520
and everything. She does a good job for like very

3854
02:59:11,680 --> 02:59:14,680
entry level stuff. Oh I'll just change my name to Adrian. Okay, great,

3855
02:59:16,079 --> 02:59:21,280
changed Adrian. She she's good entry level yoga stuff. And

3856
02:59:21,959 --> 02:59:24,879
the thing I do now is with Peloton. I'm a

3857
02:59:24,920 --> 02:59:29,840
big Peloton guy, and Adidi Shaw she's the best with yoga.

3858
02:59:30,079 --> 02:59:33,280
I do that several times a week. I've been doing

3859
02:59:33,360 --> 02:59:37,799
yoga for fifteen years and that is probably my favorite

3860
02:59:38,040 --> 02:59:41,959
exercise thing I've ever done. And give it a shot.

3861
02:59:42,040 --> 02:59:45,440
A lot of people don't. They write off yoga as

3862
02:59:45,440 --> 02:59:46,239
like bullshit thing.

3863
02:59:46,879 --> 02:59:47,239
Speaker 1: It's not.

3864
02:59:48,159 --> 02:59:51,879
Speaker 4: I'm doing yoga regularly. Oh my fucking before, I'm always

3865
02:59:51,920 --> 02:59:55,399
sitting between playing video games and being on zoom calls

3866
02:59:55,440 --> 02:59:57,479
and shit like that. It's a lot of fucking sitting

3867
02:59:57,559 --> 03:00:00,399
here and yoga, doing your cat cow bos. You're doing

3868
03:00:00,399 --> 03:00:02,200
your downward dogs and all that shit like. Do that

3869
03:00:02,239 --> 03:00:04,799
a few times a week, you're gonna feel a lot better,

3870
03:00:04,920 --> 03:00:05,319
for sure.

3871
03:00:05,799 --> 03:00:07,079
Speaker 2: I agree that's good advice.

3872
03:00:08,239 --> 03:00:11,879
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Rachel, and again congrats on the weight loss.

3873
03:00:11,920 --> 03:00:14,959
Sounds like the I don't know, it's already been going well,

3874
03:00:15,079 --> 03:00:16,520
so anything from here.

3875
03:00:16,520 --> 03:00:18,920
Speaker 4: Is just yeah, if you lost seventy six pounds, you

3876
03:00:19,639 --> 03:00:20,520
got something figured out.

3877
03:00:20,719 --> 03:00:24,840
Speaker 1: Also, she got a kitten around this time last year

3878
03:00:24,879 --> 03:00:28,479
who's trying to be friends with her dog, Dwayne. She's

3879
03:00:28,479 --> 03:00:32,239
talking about the cat now, Oh yeah, kittens like a

3880
03:00:32,239 --> 03:00:36,040
fluffy Tuxio looks cute, and then Duane's like a pit

3881
03:00:36,200 --> 03:00:39,959
bull boxer mix of some sort, very cute. It's funny.

3882
03:00:39,959 --> 03:00:41,600
Speaker 4: I think a lot of times people getting dogs, you'd

3883
03:00:41,600 --> 03:00:44,000
be worried about the dog attack on the cat. I've

3884
03:00:44,040 --> 03:00:46,399
got the two cavaliers and the one cat, and it's like, oh,

3885
03:00:46,440 --> 03:00:48,559
this cat would fuck Razor.

3886
03:00:48,959 --> 03:00:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm way more worried about those dogs.

3887
03:00:51,200 --> 03:00:55,559
Speaker 3: Eyeballs like one swipe and those bad boys are blind.

3888
03:00:55,760 --> 03:00:57,360
Speaker 1: Fuck them up, dude.

3889
03:00:57,319 --> 03:01:00,559
Speaker 3: Dude, the fucking photos of your dogs were tree stuff

3890
03:01:00,559 --> 03:01:04,120
in the water and their eyeballs are like tennis balls

3891
03:01:04,159 --> 03:01:07,040
that have just been pasted to heads.

3892
03:01:07,280 --> 03:01:09,159
Speaker 4: He's just a maniac.

3893
03:01:09,280 --> 03:01:13,520
Speaker 3: He's no defense mechanism to those dogs, like they would

3894
03:01:13,559 --> 03:01:15,159
absolutely be killed.

3895
03:01:15,479 --> 03:01:20,719
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you Rachel, thank you Dustin, and thank you Alice.

3896
03:01:21,440 --> 03:01:23,920
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we've been putting up the campaign where me and Vinie

3922
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are trying to save the world. I'm playing as a lizard, men, chameleons, dinosaurs.

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He's playing as Imrik, the High Elf Priest with dragon fetish,

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so we've been trying to that. One is a bit

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more dramatic, where I think finally going to start turning

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the tides against a bunch of uh Chaos dwarfs and

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uh Nerdlings and uh, you know all that stuff that

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I don't need to explain, you guys, all know urglings.

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03:03:08,879 --> 03:03:12,319
Speaker 4: Oh god, Dan, nerdlings is funnier.

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03:03:13,520 --> 03:03:15,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could be called nerdlings. That would still make sense.

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What's a nerd Nergile is one of the four chaos

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gods in charge of pestilence and disease and spreading stuff

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03:03:26,559 --> 03:03:26,920
like that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh he doesn't, sobart On a coffin, so he's

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03:03:33,120 --> 03:03:41,319
not cool. Oh Tony Tony Hawk's not signed on, so

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it's not cool.

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03:03:42,719 --> 03:03:44,559
Speaker 4: You're just saying about cool sounding sub to me.

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03:03:44,719 --> 03:03:48,159
Speaker 7: Oh, Total Warhamm was not published by Devolvood Digital, so

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03:03:48,239 --> 03:03:49,239
it's not cool.

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Speaker 2: That was married not as big of a he was

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03:03:53,879 --> 03:03:54,680
for me on that one.

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Speaker 1: I'm firing both. So if you are not part of

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03:03:59,200 --> 03:03:59,840
our video.

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Speaker 3: Tam was like that shot wasn't for me. I don't

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03:04:02,399 --> 03:04:06,639
understand it. Of all of us, Dan is like the

3946
03:04:06,760 --> 03:04:09,000
cat of this group who's just like but I don't

3947
03:04:09,079 --> 03:04:11,239
understand how that pertains to me.

3948
03:04:11,440 --> 03:04:13,120
Speaker 1: No, I take offense to that. I'm the cat.

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03:04:13,680 --> 03:04:16,120
Speaker 2: Uh, you're the biggest dickhead.

3950
03:04:16,200 --> 03:04:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, that's fine.

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03:04:18,399 --> 03:04:20,680
Speaker 2: I'm the dog for sure. I'm like I played two

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point hospital. It was great. Thanks for letting me speak.

3953
03:04:26,600 --> 03:04:29,680
Speaker 1: I love I'm in a pineapple room.

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03:04:31,120 --> 03:04:33,920
Speaker 2: I got all these colors, all right, dogs are color blind?

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03:04:34,559 --> 03:04:39,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, s o cats. But if you're not a

3956
03:04:39,840 --> 03:04:43,399
member of our Patreon yet, you can go sign up

3957
03:04:43,399 --> 03:04:46,079
now at Deep Dishpussy dot com. You can treat it

3958
03:04:46,079 --> 03:04:47,680
like a tip jar if you just appreciate what we do.

3959
03:04:47,760 --> 03:04:50,559
You can get ad free audio episodes, or you can

3960
03:04:50,600 --> 03:04:54,319
get the video tier where you get video versions of

3961
03:04:54,319 --> 03:04:56,719
every episode and you also get access to our bonus

3962
03:04:56,760 --> 03:05:02,399
videos and the said Warhammer show with Viney. Uh yeah, Dan,

3963
03:05:02,440 --> 03:05:03,879
what do you have going on? In the meantime?

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03:05:04,760 --> 03:05:08,280
Speaker 4: Giant bomb dot Com doing a bunch of fun stuff there.

3965
03:05:08,280 --> 03:05:10,479
We just started the new season of Blake Club where

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03:05:10,520 --> 03:05:14,399
I am playing Pimp my Ride for the PlayStation two.

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03:05:14,719 --> 03:05:15,159
Speaker 1: Great game.

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03:05:15,239 --> 03:05:16,799
Speaker 4: I think I think I'm doing a great job. I

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03:05:16,840 --> 03:05:19,000
think I'm doing it. We started it today as of

3970
03:05:19,040 --> 03:05:20,959
this recording, I think I'm doing a great job. So

3971
03:05:21,120 --> 03:05:23,719
giant bomb dot Com is the main thing that I'm

3972
03:05:24,040 --> 03:05:27,360
Dan record on Twitch and Blue Sky and all that stuff.

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03:05:27,760 --> 03:05:32,079
Speaker 3: Mary, what about you streaming on Twitch every Monday? I

3974
03:05:32,120 --> 03:05:34,559
streamed a lot of the games I talked about, including

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03:05:35,479 --> 03:05:42,399
two point Museum and was it called get packing Big.

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03:05:42,319 --> 03:05:47,200
Speaker 1: Big Big Quickly Card Quickly Blockbuster, Beck Harder, Try and

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03:05:48,159 --> 03:05:53,920
card du Check Give Get for your Pack, Hard Pack

3978
03:05:53,959 --> 03:05:56,000
Hard with a Vengeance.

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03:05:56,879 --> 03:06:00,319
Speaker 3: Anyway, I usually play games on their first just to

3980
03:06:00,399 --> 03:06:03,159
try them out, so it's kind of fun to get

3981
03:06:03,200 --> 03:06:08,479
first impressions, their final impressions aka the review the fuse

3982
03:06:08,879 --> 03:06:10,399
on fire Escape.

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03:06:11,159 --> 03:06:13,200
Speaker 1: Well, thank you too as always, and thank you everybody

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03:06:13,239 --> 03:06:14,799
for joining us. We will be back in a couple

3985
03:06:14,840 --> 03:06:16,239
of weeks, and in the off week we'll have a

3986
03:06:16,239 --> 03:06:19,399
new Warhammer episode. Until both of those, we will see

3987
03:06:19,440 --> 03:06:19,959
you next time.

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Speaker 8: Bye bye,