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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast.

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Speaker 2: My name is Donnie Peters.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday July ninth, twelve fifty am. Day three

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from the World Series of Poker Main Event is in

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the books and we are moving on today four and

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it is Bubble Day. Thursday July ninth is the time

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when the bubble will burst. It'll probably burst earlier in

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the day and it's just a matter of how long

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that bubble takes, which when it comes to this tournament,

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it has been known to take quite a bit of time.

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So we'll hit on every kind of everything that happened today.

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We'll touch on the field and the players that are

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our remaining. I spoke with both Sean deeb And and

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Michael the Grinder Miss Rocky after play was done, so

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I got those interviews for you coming later on. And yeah,

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it's I mean, it's time like the first couple of days,

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the first two days, and I'm talking about playing days,

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so the day ones and the day two. Yes, there

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is a lot of excitement when it comes to this tournament,

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of course, but this tournament is so long that for

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when I was there today, for let's say the first

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half up until the dinner break, you play three levels,

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you go to dinner, you come back, you play two

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more levels. So the first three levels of play, they

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kind of don't feel like anything. And I know Day

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three is moving day in the dibasop made event, because

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what you're trying to do on day three, you've you've

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somewhat weathered the storm and done whatever you did.

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Speaker 2: Through the first two days.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you played both of the earlier days,

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you know, yeah, you had to battle a little bit longer.

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If you only played on the day two, okay, fine,

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But once you get to day three, whatever your stack is,

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it doesn't matter whether it's twenty K or it's two

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hundred K, or it's eight hundred K, whatever it is.

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Coming into day three. Day three is all about trying

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to position yourself to hit the next checkpoint in the tournament.

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Speaker 2: At least this is how I view it all. I

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kind of set up.

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Speaker 1: Tournaments, and you know, especially longer ones in terms of

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certain checkpoints, and the checkpoint that you're trying to set

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yourself up for is to best position yourself to get

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into the money right to to be able to fight

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through that bubble. Now Obviously, some things might go your way.

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Some things might not go your way. You might end

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up short going into the bubble, you might end up

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with a big stack some of you you know, might

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have in the middle. But overall, you know, you want

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to be able to push put yourself in a position

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on day three to not have to like fold, fold, fold,

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you know, tank fold, not look at your cards, like

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just just like basically just just blind out until you

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get into the money in that that bubble burst because

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you know, everyone, you know, yes, we want to cash

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in this tournament, but we want to make a run

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at it. And how do you set yourself up to

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make a run at it. Well, you have to have

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decent chips, hopefully good chips on the bubble, because you

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can make a lot more chips by pressuring other stacks

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at your table, you know, those middling stacks, those shorter

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stacks to you. So you know, you want to set

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yourself up so you can get through the bubble comfortably

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while also being aggressive and chipping up. And then once

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that bubble burst, then you know, then it's like okay, onward,

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Like it's not just about the mind cash at that point,

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it's about trying to reach the next checkpoint. And I

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would say the next checkpoint to come is, you know,

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because the pay jumps aren't that large early on. Once

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you get into the money on day four, the next

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checkpoint is all about hitting the bag and advancing to

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day five, right, because then then it's like, oh shit,

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like we're we're in it, We're going to day five.

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and improving your game. Coming into day three, there were

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three thousand, two hundred and ninety four players remaining. At

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the end of day three, they played all five levels

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through to the end there were thirteen, thirteen hundred and

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eighty nine players remaining and with thirteen hundred and eighty

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two places making the money, that means the field is

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seven eliminations off of reaching the money. Now, of course,

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we do this dance every single year in this tournament,

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and it's are we going to hit the money today?

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Are we going to hit the money today? You know,

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players are, They're asking each other, they're asking the dealer,

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they're asking the floor, they're asking me, And I mean

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I know the answer a little bit more so than

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them because I know what production is thinking, and production

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wants to break it on day four. It's just better

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for everything.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Part of that is like, let's say you were to

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get really close at the end of the night like

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they did, and there's you know, there's seven eliminations away.

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Those seven seven eliminations can take two three four hours.

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Trust me, I've been there. They can take that long.

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So it can go on and on and on and on.

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So you would rather just wrap it up, send everyone home,

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and then come back and break the bubble the next day.

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It does tend to just work out better for everyone.

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It allows you know, production, you know, to be able

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to film the whole thing, stream the whole thing, get

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it out there, because this is a pretty monumental day

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every single year on the poker calendar when the bubble

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bursts in the World Series of Poker at main events.

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So I'm very much looking forward to that. When they

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when they paused the clock at the end of the night,

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they paused it with ten minutes left. They played three hands.

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There was like a right around fourteen hundred.

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Speaker 2: Players are maining.

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Speaker 1: Obviously in those last couple of hands, a bunch of

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other players bounced out of the tournament. When I started

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running around to try and get a couple of interviews,

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there were thirteen hundred and ninety two players on the board.

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I come home, I verify all the numbers in the app,

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and there's thirteen eighty nine. So just you know, they

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at some point while I was probably running around, probably

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some hands paying out. You know, dealers didn't put it

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into the iPad or whatever it may be, or put

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it in right away, but we are seven spots off.

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If they would have Gottenny closer, I'm guessing they just

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put a halted play. They would have told everyone to

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stop so that they can bring it back on Thursday

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for the bubble. And as a reminder, there is more

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than eighty five million dollars in the prize bowl up

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for grabs. The mid cash is worth fifteen thousand dollars,

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so one and a half times you're buying, and then

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of course the prize everyone is gunning for ten million

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dollars up top I mentioned that three two hundred and

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ninety four players returned for Day three, and because we

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have thirteen hundred and eighty nine remaining, that means the

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field lost nineteen hundred and five players, or nearly sixty

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percent of the group that returned for Day three was

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bounced before getting to day four. The chip leader entering

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at Day four is one Sasha Lou. She bagged a

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giant actually a massive shout out massive two million, three

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hundred and sixty four thousand, which is good for two

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hundred ninety five big blinds. Because they will be heading

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to four thousand and eight thousand for the blind level

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to kick off day four. She registered day two, so

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she skipped day one. She came in with a fresh

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sixty thousand chip starting stack, and before the second level

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of play was over on day two she ran it

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up to almost ten times, which she started with almost

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six hundred k. I think she got up to like

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five hundred and ninety thousand, five ninety five or something

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like that. She was a chip leader at one point

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on day two, and she just steamrolled right out of

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the gate. I read an article on poker dot Org.

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I believe the author was Mike Patrick. He talked to

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Sasha lou just saying that she know she basically ran

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hot early on. I think she said she had king,

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she had aces and flopped a set. She was able

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to win big pots when that stuff happened. And then also,

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you know, when you have to get a stack, or

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when you do get a stack like this, there are

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a lot of things that have to go your way,

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and she said they all did you know, her value

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bets paid off, her bluffs got through. You know, just

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everything lined up for her. And I'm guessing it was

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much more of the same on day three because she

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shot all the way up to I mean she shot

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up to a million at one point. Then you know,

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there was I think Martin Zemani was a chip leader,

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you know, a little bit ahead of her. She was

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a couple tables away. She then took the chip lead,

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got up to about one point four one point five million.

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Martin Zemani is playing every single hand, so his chipstack

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is going all over the place. When I left, I

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thought Sasha would be the chip leader, and I thought

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she would be on around one point seven million. I

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get home, I check the chip count. She's on two million,

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three hundred and sixty four thousand. I mean, that is

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a giant, freaking chip ley, absolutely giant. She has three

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hundred and ninety four thousand dollars in a live tournament

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winnings entering this event. I'm I'm assuming she's that's gonna

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go up because I'm assuming she's gonna get into the

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money with a chip stack like this and only seven

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spots off the bubble.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think anything's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Happen to you in terms of not not making them money.

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Her best live score was back in two thousand and nineteen,

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and it was in this very event, she came three

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hundred and twenty fourth for a little bit over thirty

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eight thousand dollars. Last year, entering Day four, it was

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Japan's Shataro Kobayashi who had one million, nine hundred and

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seventy one thousand in chips. Sosasha is well ahead of

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that pace. Kobyashi finished in six hundred and thirty first

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place for twenty seven thousand, five hundred dollars. So just again,

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you know another piece of evidence here that just because

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you're a chip leader with a giant stack on one of

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these earlier days, it really doesn't, you know, set you

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up for anything or doesn't guarantee you anything. Yeah you

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may cash, yeah you may make Day four, Day five,

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but it's not like, oh my gosh, I'm the Day

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two chip leader, I'm gonna make Day seven like that.

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That's not just how this thing thing works. There is

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so much poker to be played. I mentioned the how

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some of those Day two from the two different Day

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two those chip leaders had fared over the years.

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Speaker 2: If I look back at.

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Speaker 1: The Day two ABC and the Day two D the

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top three stacks from each of those fields, So we

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had gasper Fernandez, Mason Viz, Our Tourists, Ostroskis all coming

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out of the Day two ABC, they were the top

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three stacks. I don't see Gaspar Fernandez in the counts.

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I checked on the app he was not in there,

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So I'm guessing the Day two ABC chip leader is

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out of the tournament now. Mason Viz bagged seven point

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thirty then he bagged seven a eighty six. Now Ostrauskis

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bagged six hundred and forty six thousand. He's now up

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to one point one six nine million. For Day two D,

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it was Michael Rosido who was the chip leader there.

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He finished with seven hundred and seventy thousand. He's going

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to be entering Day four six hundred and fifty nine thousand.

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Second place out of Day two D. Jeff Fenster bag

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seven hundred and forty seven thousand. I did not see

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him in the chip counts in the app, so Gaspre

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Fernandez and Jeff Fenster two of the biggest stacks to

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come out of Day two looks like they have busted

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on Day three and then Janick Schumacher was the third

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biggest stack coming out of Day two D. He had

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seven hundred and thirty eight thousand, he's taken six hundred

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and thirty six hundred and eighty six thousand. Excuse me,

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forward to day four. But out of those six players,

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two of them, one third of the six biggest stacks

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coming out of day two did not make it to

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day four. So they are not going to be cashing

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in this tournament. I mean, it's just it's crazy how

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this tournament works. You can just you can double up

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one person for one hundred K another person for one

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hundred and fifty K. Next thing you know, you're losing

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a couple of fifty K pots, and then you know

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your seven hundred K stack looks like two hundred and

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you're just like, well, what the heck's going on here?

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But you know, and then maybe the spiral just continues,

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maybe you get a little bit less confidence in your game.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: I've been there, We've all been there if we play poker,

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you know, and going forward, we'll see what, you know,

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how things look for Sasha Lou But right now, I

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don't know. I feel like I got a good feeling

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about her. Now I don't know what that ultimately means,

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but I'll say I'll say day six for Sasha Lou

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and I feel like I got a pretty good finger

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on the pulse when when it comes to poker in general,

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in this specific tournament, you can just get the sense,

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like when she's coming in day two, she's as hot

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as she is in terms of running up her sixty

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thousand chipstack to six and almost six hundred thousand, and

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then that rush, that momentum all continues on.

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Speaker 2: For day three.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen this story a few times in

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the past, and I'm expecting some big things out of her,

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So I'll go. I'll go day six at least for Sasha.

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One of the other big stacks to bag up chips

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on day three, Martin Zemania. I had already talked about him.

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Martin Zemani is one of the most entertaining players at

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the table. He's got a colorful personality. He's not afraid

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to talk. He's also not afraid to talk shit and

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gives give it to you. He plays pretty much every

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single hand. He's one of those guys where when he

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has a chip lead, like he does first of all

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him getting to the chip lead, he plays like a

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maniac from the start, and then once he has a

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chip lead like this, if nobody else around him at

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the table is fighting back and fighting back successfully. Martin's

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one of those guys that's pretty much any two cards

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I'm raising and until you push back, I'm just gonna

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keep going. And that's what he does. I mean, he

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shot up over a million, then his chip stack fluctuated

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somewhere between like one million and one point four million,

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which is a big fluctuation, and then he ends up

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bagging one million, nine hundred and sixty three thousand. He'll

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be second entering Day four. Neck Zizka, a twenty five

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K Fantasy drafted player, bagged one million, five hundred and

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seventy six thousand. Will Gibbons bagged one million, five hundred

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and forty thousand. Now Will Gibbons I talked about him

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several episodes ago on this very podcast. I played with

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him in I believe it was the fifteen hundred dollars

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freeze out, might have been the might have been the

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twenty five hundred dollar freezer or two K freeze out,

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one of the freezeouts I play. I played, he got

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moved to my table. He was talking about how it's

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his first time back at the World Series of poker

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in three or four years because he was banned from

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Caesar's Properties for something that happened in a pick game.

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He ultimately got a lawyer, he got it overturned and

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he's back and that was that was his one of

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his first tournaments back, the Freeze Out that I played

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with him. And here he is having a run here

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in the WSP main event with one million, five hundred

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and forty thousand entering Day four Andrew Yet and one million,

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two hundred and eighty four thousand for him Andrew Jay,

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showing that he's got some chops when it comes to

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Nolan Holden tournaments. A a mixed game specialist, believe he

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won the ten K horse but very very good mix

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game player, but here doing very well of course on

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the no Limitfeld the twenty nineteen champion of this event,

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hosting ENSN one million, two hundred and eighty thousand.

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Speaker 2: Going forward to Day four.

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Speaker 1: En Son's one of those guys that just looks so

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damn cool at the table, Like the way he handles

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the chips, the cards, the little smile on his face.

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He looks cool, he looks charming, He just looks awesome.

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Sean deeb I mentioned that we're gonna be talking to

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Sean Deeb, and we are. I have a short interview

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to play from mister Deep. He bagged at nine hundred

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and thirty eight thousand. I watched a bit of his

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his table at the end of the day, probably in

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the last forty minutes or so. And he's another guy

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who was pretty much any two cards, which he mentioned

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when I talked with him. You know, he's kind of

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just any two cards at this point on the bubble,

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and you know, you're just gonna make people play back

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in him. The very final hand of the night, Sean

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Deeb made made a wheel. Guy opened, he flatted, Laura

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Eisenberger flatted behind it came eight five deuce. The opener

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bet Deep called turn was a four opener checked deep

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bet Guy took a little bit and then folded. That

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was the very last hand of night. Deep ended up

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showing showed as three for turning a wheel. Alex Foxen

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is also still in you'll hear Sean Deeb mentioned Alex

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Foxen eight hundred and thirty nine thousand for him. Kristen Foxen,

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I believe, is also in case. She's got eighty six

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thousand according to the w SP app which is on

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the other on the other end of things. Then her

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husband Alex. But you know, we know Christian can obviously

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run up a stack in this event. She had a

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very very very deep run a couple of years ago,

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and we'll see she can make that happen again. But

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for right now, it looks like Alex is the one

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that is cooking. Michael the Grinder is Rocky, the defending champ.

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Of course, we have to talk about the Grinder six

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hundred and fifteen K in the bag. He was on

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the feature tables for much of the day for Day three,

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and it was some of the wildest shit that I've

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ever seen. I mean, not only his table, all the tables.

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There was just a lot of There was some crazy hands,

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some set up hands, some big hands, some unorthodox, out

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of this world hands. Grinder like he played this hand

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early on and I hope that the action is right

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as it was called on stream, because they came to

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his table that were covering on another table. They swung

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over to her, to his table, and Aline Najade is

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saying recapping the action, and he's saying, grinder open, and

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Grinder's got a seven hearts small blind three bet Grinder

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ripped it for. At the time it was the blinds

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were two K four K, and Grinder ripped in for

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effectively hundred forty five thousand, covering his opponent. That's how

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much as opponent had left. His opponent called off with

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King Queen Off. Grinder had a seven herds and just one.

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I mean, I don't know how that happens. That's just

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out of control. He won a whole bunch of other pots,

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did Grinder. He was doing the whole Michael to Grinder

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and is a rocky thing. He's on an absolute heater

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right now, coming off that ten KPLO championship win. Last year,

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when Grinder bagged for day three or bagged after day three,

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entering day four, he bagged one hundred and eighty six thousand,

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so he's well ahead of pace. Putting six hundred and

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fifteen thousand in the bag this year. Nick Helmuth, he's

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the only Hellmuth remaining. He bagged fifty three thousand, so

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very much on the short side for Nick Helmuth. But

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chips in the bag survive and advance, so that's just

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a handful of notables. I do want to go through

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the chip count list and just kind of scroll it

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and call out some names as I go. But I'm

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not going to do that right this second. First I

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want to talk to Sean Deeb. I want to bring

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him in, bring his interview in. We talked about how

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I asked him how I thought he thought his day went.

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I asked him what the w SP main event means

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to the Player of the Year race, because when I

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talked with him, I can't remember if it was the

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winner interview that we did or the previous interview that

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we did for the podcast. He mentioned how important the

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main event was going to be this year for the

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Player of the Year, so I wanted to ask him

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about that, and then of course got to ask him

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about using that big stack to attack the bubble. So

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here is Sean Deeb following bagging up chips on day three.

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All right, Sean Deep, nine hundred and thirty eight thousand

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in the bag. How did the day go for you?

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Speaker 3: I think I lost more hands I put chips in

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a pot today than any other day in my career.

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Speaker 4: By two X.

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Speaker 3: I was obviously raising like one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Percent of hands.

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Speaker 3: Last like four hours, I lost sixty percent of them.

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So it was a very stupid day. You know, gotten

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a huge clip by dinner had one point a million,

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fifty thousand, and somehow I just swung between the two

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hundred k of the rest of the day, So kind

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of unfortunate. Table got really lucky with equity to play

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back in every spot and I never had anything. So yeah,

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kind of a sad day that ragged so well. But

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you know where I was four hours ago and I

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back one point five million, like half the time.

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Speaker 1: When we spoke a few days ago, you mentioned how

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important this event might be for the player of the

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ear race.

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Speaker 2: Is that is something that is on your mind. I mean,

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I need cashes, so this one will pay well.

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Speaker 3: But it just you know, I was very close to

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going hopping the Klo Mystery Bounty, but our table took

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too long on hands and also I know, you know,

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one hundred big blinds for tomorrow and the bubble and

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and for hand like gonna blind out if I do

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bag the mystery boundy a lot. But I was still

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close to just flicking a stack in. Yeah, kind of

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unfortunately I want poy and you know Fox is stilling this,

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so this could be a lot of points. Once we

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get the money, I'll start seeing this is where the pay.

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You know, how big of a jump it is for

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some of these spots, you know, because I know obviously

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the big jump is ninth, but I don't know if

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it's being a fifty eight pointment cash or what. So

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curious to see where it is. And yeah, just got

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to get my fifteen scores.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Foxer, and so you're obviously aware that he's

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still in the event. I mean, how much are you

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paying attention or how closely are you paying attention.

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Speaker 4: To that all?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't really matter, Like at this point,

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you know, I need results, and when you're behind, and

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I have more open spots of scores, so I know

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that whatever I cash for, you know, I'm getting the

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full point value for a while because I might not

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max out the fifteen. So obviously, tough competition. Obviously he's

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a lot better than me, and no woman to hold him.

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But I think I'm a little better than him in

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the main. But obviously he's one of the best in

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the field. I you know, root for him. He's a

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great guy.

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Speaker 2: I've known him before.

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Speaker 3: Most people in poker got to know.

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Speaker 2: Him through chance.

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Speaker 3: You know, we all grind it online before he ever

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played a high roller, played anything bigger. So happy to

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see him come where he's coming. You know his wife

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I've known through eighteen so two people I root for

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all the time. I actually trying to convince them to

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move to up St New York. I think at some

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point when they're done with poker traveling, uh, maybe I'll

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get them to buy a farm near me and we'll

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hang out a lot. There's great people, and you know,

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once they start a family, when they put poker aside,

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they're going to be great parents. And it's good to

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see successful people who are great people.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be a handful of spots off the money

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on day four?

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Speaker 2: Are you going to attack? Is that the plan? Is

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that always the plan?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know you were raising quite a bit

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there at the end of the night. I mean I

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literally I was ending two for the last four hours.

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Speaker 3: In almost every spot I folded bottom five percent in

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a few There's a lot of you know, really tight

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big blinds.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just got kind.

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Speaker 3: Of fucked post flap, never foughted equity, and the people

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have called I just knew had good hands, so I

478
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,960
just check folded a lot. It's kind of what you

479
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,240
have to do. You risk a little to win a little,

480
00:23:49,279 --> 00:23:50,920
and you try to do that every hand.

481
00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to talk to Seawande, one of the

482
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,079
greatest poker players in the world. He's always done him

483
00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:01,000
for that Player of the year. He's always goun in

484
00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,440
for that Player of the year. And I know, you know,

485
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,599
he mentioned how he's just got to really put up cashes,

486
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,440
but he always seems aware of how everyone else is doing.

487
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,079
You know, no one tracks a Player of the Year

488
00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:14,480
like Sean Deep does. And we'll see if he can

489
00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:17,200
ultimately get another title. And while we're on Player of

490
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,880
the Year, I mean we got we've got to Phil

491
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,200
Halmy causing up a stir out there. He's putting it

492
00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:26,200
on social media that the Player of the year it

493
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,759
should be required that the player has a winning summer

494
00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:33,200
or a profitable summer or year, or however that you

495
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,119
want to do it if all you know, if Europe

496
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,440
counts paradise and the summer, then okay, fine, I mean

497
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,640
that makes no damn sense to me. I mean that

498
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,240
that's just silly, Okay. The Player of the Year award

499
00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:50,480
is it's a volume based award, or at least it

500
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:53,759
lends itself more to favor people who are putting in

501
00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:57,119
high volume. Now, there are some restrictions in places where

502
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,680
I think it's your best fifteen cashes count, so it's

503
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,480
not just unlimited. Here's the example that I would like

504
00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:08,079
to use. Let's say you win four bracelets in fifteen

505
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,039
hundred dollars.

506
00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:10,599
Speaker 2: A mixed game events.

507
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: So you know, the first place prize is on the

508
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,839
smaller side of things, anywhere from like one hundred and

509
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,279
twenty five thousand up to two hundred thousand, right, So

510
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,599
let's say you win four of those tournaments, and especially

511
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,599
let's say you win Let's say let's say you win

512
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,400
four of those tournaments, but I don't know ones in

513
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,359
in Europe, so the prize, the prize might be even smaller.

514
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,599
That's arguably going to get you Player of the Year.

515
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,640
But then if you go dust off two bullets in

516
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,480
the two hundred and fifty k Super high Roller because

517
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,480
you're chasing Player of the Year and you want to

518
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:44,480
sell some additional action and get into those tournaments, and

519
00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:47,359
you know before you say, well, why would a fifteen

520
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,400
hundred dollars player ever play those tournaments. You know, why

521
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,039
would a lesser player ever play those tournaments?

522
00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: Those tournaments are for the high rollers.

523
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: We've seen that sort of thing in the past. I mean,

524
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,319
the one that sticks out to me the most is

525
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:58,319
when dan Zach was in the running. Dan Zac does

526
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,599
not play super high No one had hold him tournaments,

527
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,880
and he sold action and got into the two hundred

528
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,680
and fifty K and I believe he cashed in the

529
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,039
two hundred and fifty k super high rollers. So that

530
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:11,319
that does happen. When when you get entrenched and you

531
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,720
get rolling in this this Player of the Year race,

532
00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:16,240
and you're up there near the top, you're doing anything

533
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:19,680
and everything to get max volume into fire all these tournaments. Right,

534
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,640
So let's say you win that money. Let's say you

535
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,519
win four hundred and ninety thousand dollars from those four

536
00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:29,319
bracelets and those smaller buying events, you know, smaller buy

537
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,920
and smaller fields, and then you go fire two bullets

538
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,559
in the two hundred fifty K and you're down ten

539
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,119
K on the year. You don't win Player of the Year.

540
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,000
I mean that that's just ridiculous. I mean, I mean,

541
00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:40,599
what are we doing here like that? That's just ridiculous. Listen,

542
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,119
the formula is the formula, and Sean deeb he makes

543
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,960
it known every single year that he's going for Player

544
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,319
of the Year. That's what he's going for. And the

545
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,039
formul It's not like the formula has been the same

546
00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:58,160
since the WSP Player of the Year came into existence

547
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,200
in two thousand and four. It's changed many times. And

548
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,119
as long as Sean Deep has been pushing for that,

549
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,160
he's always altered his game, his approach the summer, the

550
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,240
schedule that he plays, He's always done that based on

551
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:13,960
Player of the Year. And I just find it a

552
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,079
little bit interesting that this just so happens to come

553
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,920
from Phil Hammith, who has all this other stuff when

554
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,960
it comes to the WSP, but he does not have

555
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:27,240
the one thing that he's now complaining needs to get changed,

556
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,319
and that is the WSP Player of the Year title.

557
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,960
And he has come second on multiple occasions, but he

558
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,599
has not won it. He's got seventeen goal bracelets, he's

559
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:38,079
got a WSP Made Event title, he's got all that

560
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,279
sort of stuff. He is mister WSP, but he does

561
00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:44,680
not have THESIP Player of the Year award. Well, what

562
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,960
I would say to Phil is you can stop sleep

563
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:49,640
sleep until five am, you can stop taking days off,

564
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,119
and you can show up and put in the volume

565
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,920
that all these other players do. Right, And if you

566
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,920
want to make player of the other thing, then you

567
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,960
can do it. The Player of the Year award system,

568
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,200
the scoring system, it has improved. I think this is

569
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,160
probably the best one that they have ever had. I

570
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,319
think the race is shaping up awesome. It's been great

571
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,240
to follow. There's a lot of big names gunning for it.

572
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,160
It keeps changing, you know, pretty much by by the day.

573
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:17,799
And yeah, I think it's the best it's ever been.

574
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,400
Does it need to improve from here? I mean maybe sure.

575
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,519
But the one improvement has nothing to do with being profitable.

576
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,559
I mean that's just absolutely ridiculous, Like you should should

577
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:30,319
you have to be a profitable poker player over your

578
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:32,440
career to make it into the Poker Hall of Fame?

579
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,599
Because I could probably find a whole bunch of people

580
00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:39,240
that might not be profitable, right, so should they not

581
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,720
get you know, all that stuff just seems silly, like

582
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,440
let's just let's just stop with this. And then also

583
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,039
the other thing is like from an operator side, you

584
00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:51,640
don't want that to happen because then you're gonna get

585
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,079
people who are locking up wins at some point and

586
00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:56,960
not putting an additional volume like in my example that

587
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,400
I gave earlier. Let's say you win four bracelets in

588
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,799
fifteen hondre mixed game events that are smaller buying smaller fields.

589
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:07,480
Therefore you get a smaller first place prize. Then maybe

590
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,799
you don't fire the fifty k, the hunter k, the

591
00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:12,000
two hundred fifty k, whatever it is, those high rulers,

592
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,720
because then you're risking actually be negative on the WSP.

593
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,480
So why would the operator ever put that sort of

594
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,200
rule in place? It just seems silly. So the help

595
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:34,000
me just stop with that nonsense. Place Michael the Grinder,

596
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,559
Miss Rocky, the bid to go back to back.

597
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: I mean, my.

598
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,279
Speaker 1: Colleague Grimkrinkama the other day said, you know what, if

599
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:44,279
anyone can go back to back in the was main

600
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:47,559
event in this era of poker, it's Michael the Grinder

601
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:50,759
of his Rocky and I mean it's it's honestly, it's

602
00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:55,759
hard to refute that statement. It just is Grinder is

603
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,039
absolutely feeling it, as evidenced by the way he is playing.

604
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:02,079
And yeah, I asked him about it. I wanted to

605
00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:05,160
see how the grinder feels. And you guys can hear

606
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:07,799
from his Rockie right here is.

607
00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:09,359
Speaker 2: The main event easy for you? What the heck is this?

608
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: You always seem to just do well, run up a

609
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,920
stack the momentum.

610
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,839
Speaker 4: I'm coming off to a PLO, win the championship, win,

611
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,119
and I just always I play a little different when

612
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:20,319
I'm in the main event. I take it really serious.

613
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,960
Well every time I played serious, but I make different

614
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,799
plays in this tournament where I sometimes I'm careful, sometimes

615
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:28,839
I take advantage of situations, but I try not to

616
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,759
bust out, and it was never risked. I was never

617
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,319
all in yet to get out of this tournament. So

618
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:35,799
I take a lot of minimal risks in this event

619
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,880
and just know.

620
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,839
Speaker 2: How to get done.

621
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: Now. Obviously, you have your own type of style, and

622
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,920
players have known that style for a while. But now

623
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,920
that you've won this tournament, you've won the main event,

624
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,000
are players playing a little bit differently against you? At all?

625
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:48,039
Speaker 2: I think so.

626
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: I think players will make a lot of mistakes against me.

627
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,079
But I've done a lot of quite a few fuck

628
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,640
some cool cool stuff I did today like people probably

629
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,559
haven't seen yet. And you know, trickery a lot of

630
00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:01,480
trickery today, a lot of creative. So I'm gonna take

631
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,880
a look later tonight and see what hands they're showing online.

632
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,480
Hopefully I don't.

633
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to see two I will show too much.

634
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 4: But I want to see what they showed tonight from

635
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,440
the feature table. Little bit cool was on the main

636
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,279
feature because the would have.

637
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,079
Speaker 2: Saw a lot of cool shit.

638
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: All right, how confident are you going back to back?

639
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: I'm very confident right now. I won the tournament last

640
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,119
year PPC June twenty ninth. I won the PLO June

641
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,519
twenty ninth. I bought it to day one. B. Everything's

642
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:27,799
looking good. It's just it looks like it's everything's repeating

643
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:28,119
for now.

644
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: You heard it there.

645
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: He feels great, he's confident, he's going to go back

646
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,440
to back. The stars are aligning, you know. He won

647
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,839
that fifty k PPC on June twenty ninth. He said

648
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,559
he won the ten K Polo Championship on June twenty nine.

649
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,440
It's all just lining up for Grinder.

650
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:44,559
Speaker 2: It just really is.

651
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: And when you're watching him play, and I watched a

652
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,880
fair bit of the stream today, I was just sucked

653
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,279
in by Grinder up there, and a couple of things

654
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:53,960
stuck out.

655
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,079
Speaker 2: One is.

656
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: He's got a horseshoe up his ass right now, just

657
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:01,920
in terms of like I mean, it's it's just he's

658
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:05,319
just hot, he's running hot. He's obviously grinder knows how

659
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:05,720
to play.

660
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: No one.

661
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:10,599
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anyone in poker who knows how

662
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,880
to ride a rush better than Michael the Grinder Miss Rocky. Okay,

663
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:18,160
Is Michael the Grinders Rocky the best poker player in

664
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,039
the world, the most technical poker player in the world,

665
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:22,240
all that sort of stuff, No, okay, And I think

666
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:22,680
he would be.

667
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,559
Speaker 2: The first to admit that.

668
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:30,559
Speaker 1: But when he's rolling, he's he's like a puppeteer with

669
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,759
the rest of the players at his table, and he

670
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:37,599
can do whatever he wants from his play the cards.

671
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:40,960
He gets involved with the way that he sizes his bets,

672
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,799
and it even extends to the table talk because he's

673
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:47,200
able to to work some voodoo at times. It's it's

674
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,160
like spooky out there to watch him, and and really

675
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:54,279
no one is able to catch a rush and ride

676
00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:57,839
that wave like Michael the Grinder Miss Rocky does. And

677
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,039
I think I think he's in the midst of riding

678
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:03,279
a wave right now, and he's feeling it and he

679
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,680
knows he's feeling it, and he's cooking. And you know,

680
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,359
for some people, they can start feeling that way and

681
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,759
it can all just go south, it can all fall apart.

682
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,119
But for I don't know, for a grinder, I feel

683
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:18,359
like it only do just builds and builds and builds

684
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,480
and builds. So he's going to day for he's got

685
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,839
a boatloader chip six hundred and fifteen thousand. I mean,

686
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,759
this is gonna be an absolute freaking treat to watch

687
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:29,880
this guy play the rest of the way. And he's

688
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,680
also you know, the other thought that I was having

689
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:36,880
is he might be the one player I would never

690
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,200
want to see at my table because he's in every

691
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:44,480
freaking hand. You never know what he has, he's gonna do.

692
00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:48,480
He's willing and capable of doing anything. So he would

693
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:52,759
just be an absolute nightmare to play against. An absolute nightmare. Now,

694
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,359
I'm sure there are many other players like him, but

695
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,240
I don't know. For whatever reason, I would just not

696
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,279
want Michael the Grinder and Miss Rocky I'm on my

697
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:04,160
table and that if you got stuck with a table

698
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:06,839
jaw with him in the WSV main event. Specifically, I

699
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,320
mean that just that stinks. I feel like that just stinks.

700
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,760
So anyway, he's feeling it, man, the Grinder is feeling it.

701
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:18,000
Some of the players who did bust out on day three.

702
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:20,199
We lost Joe McKean, we lost Phil hammonyth and we

703
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,000
lost his son, Phil Helmuth the third. I mentioned already

704
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,119
that Nick Helmmath was still in the tournament. Kerry Katz eliminated,

705
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:32,599
Mike Holts eliminated. We talked to Ben Ludlow earlier or

706
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:33,800
on an earlier episode.

707
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,559
Speaker 2: He's eliminated.

708
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: So both of the two co hosts who joined Chad

709
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,159
Holloway on the Poker News podcast, Mike Colts and Ben Ludlow,

710
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,400
they are eliminated from the WOP main event. Don't worry, guys,

711
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,760
this podcast host is also eliminated because my ass is

712
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,480
out to Eric bald Out, Brian rast Out, Josh reichert out,

713
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:55,199
Andrew Lichtenberger gone, Mike Madis Houcia and Gerard p k

714
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,719
also eliminated. All Right, So I told you guys that

715
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,760
I did want to just look through the chip counts,

716
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,440
and I'm gonna do that because I just, you know,

717
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:06,320
just let's just see what I find. Basically, what I'm

718
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,039
doing here is I'm taking you through the process that

719
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:10,559
I do anyway. Yeah, I scroll through the chips cowns,

720
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:13,360
you say, Oh, that person's left, Oh, this person's left.

721
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,599
Freed Johnton one point three million for him. Freed is

722
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:20,760
a very very exciting player. I think he's known a

723
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,559
little bit more for some of the stuff he's done

724
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:26,360
on the World Pogratur. But we'll see if he can

725
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,159
continue to make some noise here in the WSP main event.

726
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,639
Free just one of those players where I mean he's

727
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:35,880
willing to seven bit you at any given moment. He's

728
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,159
willing to just blast over bets at any given moment.

729
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:42,280
I mean, he's he's electric out there. He's a freaking

730
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,639
stone cold killer, and he will not back down at all.

731
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,519
Brian Yun is in the mix. Greg Mueller is still

732
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:52,280
out there. I see Kyle cart right. I feel like

733
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,599
I haven't seen that name or face in a while.

734
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:01,440
Eric Lindren still in the mix. I believe Dutch boyd

735
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,079
bagged as well. I believe my guy Ryan Brown. I

736
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,920
talked about him many times on this podcast. Ryan Brown

737
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:14,119
baged some chips. David Pretti's bagged chips. Dan Stavilla, he

738
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:20,440
bagged chips. Malcolm Trainor bagchips. Malcolm Trainor won the Mystery

739
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,360
Millions tournament at the World Series of Poker. I can't

740
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,519
remember what year A couple of at least two years ago,

741
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:29,039
if not three years ago. He just won the Ausie Millions.

742
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:33,039
This in the return, so he's still in.

743
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: Who else we got?

744
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,079
Speaker 1: Ian Mattacas Speaking of all that Player of the Year

745
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:44,239
chatter Ian Mattakas is still in brock Parker, still in

746
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,519
the mix. Tony Dunst bag chips, He's still in Ren

747
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:54,599
Lynn still in. Scott Davies, still in Bruno Lopez in

748
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,360
Brown BALLA, Ashawn Bala friends with Nick Ricotta and uh,

749
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:05,119
what was it? Pat high Sakes cashing players? What I

750
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:07,239
wanted to say, I was a blanket on that. Scott

751
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,880
Lazar still in Baby said hello to him again today

752
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:18,360
when I saw him. Dominic Sarley still in Vladis Thomas

753
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:25,039
howskis in, David Einhorn the Billionaire, still in David Peters.

754
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,800
He's still in. Stephen Chidwick is still in the mixed.

755
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:34,239
Justin Arwine is in there. Gina Rehem bagging chips. Shoto

756
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,960
Nakanishi in there. Michael Rocco there he is Eric Laddin.

757
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:40,559
He haven't seen that name for a while. I believe

758
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:43,840
he's out in New Jersey like an old schooa online player.

759
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:49,559
Dylan Smith still in. Thomas Connooley, former do Hisipy main

760
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:54,960
event finalist, Thomas Connooley is still in. Sean Daniels, TJ.

761
00:37:55,199 --> 00:38:00,000
Reid bagged chips as well. Proc Wilson is in there.

762
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:06,239
Brock Wilson, He's had a pretty lackluster summer, considering how

763
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,239
hot he was coming into the summer. He was the

764
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,960
Poker gro Cup winner, he was the US Poker Open winner,

765
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,239
had a ton of success on the PGT, but he

766
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,760
has just not been able to find it when it

767
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,400
comes to the World Series of Poker. Now that said,

768
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,800
that can all change in this tournament, and this is

769
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,199
the tournament to make it happen.

770
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: Who else we got?

771
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Brian Campanello, He's in there, Ryan Lang. Marcel Lusk is

772
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:39,119
still in and kicking. Looks like he bagged more than

773
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,679
half a million in chips. Marcel Louse, you guys think

774
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,199
he's going to be singing later? Is he going to

775
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,559
be singing Bradley Rubin is in there. Salvatore de Carlo

776
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:53,199
I believe he was second in the monster stack. I

777
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,440
believe was the tournament.

778
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: We got.

779
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: Jess Richards is in there. We've got Justin Lapkov and

780
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,880
Essa k she's doing well. Ralph Perry is out there.

781
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,000
Sean Perry was out there. I believe he bagged chips

782
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,920
as well, going through John Mannette Farrah Galfon, she's in

783
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,360
the mix. Patrick Leonard, I know he bagged chips. Darren

784
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,920
Elias bagged chips. Can't remember Jeremy Osma's bag chips. I

785
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,719
should have looked that one up. Jeremy Osmas did bag

786
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,920
chips one hundred and ninety two thousand. Jesse Lonis bagged chips.

787
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,159
So you know, there's Romaine Lewis is in there. I mean,

788
00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:35,199
it's just one of those tournaments where due to the

789
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,599
sheer size of it and how long it's drawn out,

790
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,760
you know, you just you walk around the field and

791
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:43,960
you're looking around and you're always like, what, Oh, this

792
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,480
guy's selling, that guy's stelling. Fabian Quoss still In was

793
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,559
on the feature table. At one point I saw the

794
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:51,920
future table and I was like, wait, is that Fabian Quass.

795
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:54,840
We don't see Fabian Quass at all into the ws

796
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,559
Being Made Event every single year, and it's and then

797
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,119
he's in the WASP Made Men. He's got a bazillion chips.

798
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:02,039
He played a pretty crazy hand with he had kings,

799
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,320
his opponent had Queen's. That was on the feature table.

800
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,440
That was a fun one. So Joe Hasham looks like

801
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:11,960
he's still in. So I mean, there's just there's stories

802
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:17,480
everywhere in this tournament. It's just so absolutely freaking cool.

803
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,039
All right, I won't bore you guys with that anymore,

804
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,920
but but you know, it's just it's fun to go

805
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,199
through and look at the stories and see how they

806
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,400
all shake out. It's hard to know every single player's

807
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,599
story in the wsp Man Event, of course, but we

808
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:35,559
try and learn as much as we can. Let me,

809
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:38,840
let me look up one more player, Adam Levy. Adam

810
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,239
Levey did bag chips. I know, we talked with him

811
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,039
on yesterday's episode. He bagged three hundred and forty seven thousand.

812
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:50,199
So good old Ruthless is moving forward today.

813
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,679
Speaker 2: Four.

814
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna wrap it up here, but I

815
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,880
do want to remind you guys the next episode of

816
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,519
this podcast is the best episode of the year the summer,

817
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:04,679
hands down. It is the bubble episode, which means we

818
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,360
are going to be out there or I'm going to

819
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,920
be out there on the floor, phone in hand while

820
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,800
the bubble is happening, running around talking to people.

821
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,199
Speaker 2: There is so much downtime.

822
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: In between these hands because there are so many tables

823
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,920
in action and all these hands are drawing out. Of course,

824
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,480
it's a very important part of the tournament being on.

825
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: The money bubble.

826
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: So you know, we'll pop around and we'll put the

827
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,239
whole bubble thing together. I know it's a chore for

828
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,320
producer rich Rydan to edit this one, so you know,

829
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:37,280
thank you, thank you, thank you for the hard work

830
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,320
on this episode. And we didn't do it last year,

831
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,000
of course because Tim and I were Will still in

832
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:45,440
the tournament, shout out to us, but I'm no longer

833
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,320
in the tournament, so I'll be able to do the

834
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,719
bubble episode. And that's my It's one of my favorites.

835
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,480
You know, we just walk around, we chat with people,

836
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:54,920
we hang out, see how they're they're playing. You can

837
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,320
you can directly ask them about maybe a big hand

838
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,960
that they played. You can just generally ask them about

839
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:02,639
their approach. You know, some people are some people are

840
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:05,679
just flat out folding their hands out looking at them.

841
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,960
You know, some people are just absolutely getting after it

842
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,320
like it's a it's a crazy freaking scene on the bubble.

843
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,719
And that's one of the best days of the year,

844
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,760
the w s P main event, Bubble Day. But all right,

845
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,320
that's gonna do it for the pause. Shout out to

846
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,199
producer Rich for getting this one up, and thank you.

847
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,519
Thank you to all the listeners out there. Don't forget

848
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,480
to like subscribe, rate, review, five stars, all that sort

849
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:30,360
of stuff. Let's freaking go. My name is Donny Peters,

850
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,119
and I will talk to you guys on the next one.

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