Speaker 1: It seems like sometimes it takes a minute from my
Speaker 1: video to kick him. There we go, Ah, there you are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got my hair cut today. I see you'll fancy
Speaker 1: I look.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, spippy.
Speaker 1: There's this Colombian guy who cuts my hair. He's pretty old,
Speaker 1: you know. And like I said, I I generally seek
Speaker 1: out Spanish or Japanese barbers because they know how to
Speaker 1: cut hair, particularly if you got you know, like long
Speaker 1: straight hair. But sometimes dudes not at the shop, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't inform anybody, so like he'll have his daughter
Speaker 1: fill in for I mean, generally I don't let women
Speaker 1: cut my hair because I think it's kind of weird
Speaker 1: and improper. But I like this dude, and I like
Speaker 1: this family, and she does a good job. But she's
Speaker 1: about my age and she's like well preserved man. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll like Spanish women kind of make everything horny whenever
Speaker 1: they need to be, Like she kind of does that,
Speaker 1: and uh, I mean obviously like I'm old, So it's
Speaker 1: it's not like women follow themselves to sweat me, but
Speaker 1: like strippers and old Spanish broads, I seem to like
Speaker 1: if I was prone to sin, that'd be my demographic.
Speaker 1: It seems like but uh, yeah, it's in the two
Speaker 1: things that I've noticed stand out in the count and
Speaker 1: see crisis. People don't know how to mix drinks anymore.
Speaker 1: There aren't like mixologists, and people know how to cut
Speaker 1: hair anymore. One of the reasons I like the Trump
Speaker 1: Tower Rooftop Bar. It's not because I I want to
Speaker 1: hang around in some property owned by the Rabbi, but
Speaker 1: it's actually a really cool hotel. And the rooftop Bar,
Speaker 1: They've got some of the best bartenders in Chicago, and
Speaker 1: they make really they make a really great dakery. They
Speaker 1: changed that. They changed the cocktail menu up a lot,
Speaker 1: but in the in the summer months they make a
Speaker 1: frozen blue daker. And it's to day for Arthur and
Speaker 1: his wife Addison. I will be there. I will be
Speaker 1: there and sip I will be there in September. And yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of which, Thomas Wayne Riley hit me up and
Speaker 1: uh he's like out in like Cowboy Country and he
Speaker 1: said he's gonna come here for my birthday bash too.
Speaker 1: This is it's like really blowing up. Man. There's like
Speaker 1: a just sort of like a planning committee around it.
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize that that makes me feel very
Speaker 1: that that makes me feel very happy, man, and it'll
Speaker 1: be fun. But also, uh, I'm stalked that people actually
Speaker 1: give a fuck about my birthday, Like that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: But I I'm I'm proud of myself from making it
Speaker 1: to fifty years. Like ordinarily that's like a retard flex
Speaker 1: like just managing to stay alive. But in my case, uh,
Speaker 1: it ain't no small thing, man. So yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to I want to have a lot of fun. And
Speaker 1: the RiPP Top Bar is always always a blast. And
Speaker 1: but I was I was blessed last weekend. Uh Arthur
Speaker 1: and his wife had a sore for dinner and uh,
Speaker 1: I mean uh Arthur like works as a bartender, so
Speaker 1: he like made me some really good martinis and that
Speaker 1: become I've become sold on martinis, man, Like I never
Speaker 1: I never disliked them, but I uh that restaurant that's
Speaker 1: right by the House of Blues and Marina City, well
Speaker 1: it's called it like the Tortoise. I think you I'll
Speaker 1: get metro front of ours. That's a place that he
Speaker 1: really likes, and so he was kind of to take
Speaker 1: me there. He's taken me there a couple of times
Speaker 1: and the two like signature drinks they have that are incredible,
Speaker 1: one of which you got to ask for because it
Speaker 1: ain't on the menu. It's like an inside hack. But
Speaker 1: they've got Uh, They've got a vodka martini and they
Speaker 1: drop a a blue cheese stuffed olive in it, which
Speaker 1: is really fine. I don't go for I think it's weird,
Speaker 1: but the flavor profile really works with the Vocker martini. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love blue chee I love blue chie so olives,
Speaker 2: and they are I've had him before in a in
Speaker 2: a sort of martini, not a real martini, And considering
Speaker 2: how often I carry a Walter PPK, I really should
Speaker 2: be drinking martinis more often.
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because I was gonna raise that about Bond.
Speaker 1: There's a you know, you never ever want to shake
Speaker 1: a martini because there's a delicate flavor profile and the
Speaker 1: maleafield of martini, if it's mixed properly, is really really silky.
Speaker 1: You fuck that up entirely if you shake it. You
Speaker 1: never shake a martini. So that's gofy and uh, I
Speaker 1: think too. I i'd have to. I got a couple
Speaker 1: of Ian Flemick paperbacks. I read a few of them
Speaker 1: in high school and one of the few people who
Speaker 1: actually really likes Moonraker. Like the movie. I think it's cool.
Speaker 1: So when I was when I was like sixteen, I
Speaker 1: bought the paper back, which is a lot different than
Speaker 1: the movie, but it's still good. But uh, I think
Speaker 1: in Moonreak here it makes reference that Bond drinks vodka martinis,
Speaker 1: which is weird for uh, like a Britisher, you know,
Speaker 1: because uh of a proper martini is is you know,
Speaker 1: a gin martini in Jim's the National Spirit of of England.
Speaker 1: But Bond is the Bond character is supposed to be
Speaker 1: a Scotsman, so maybe maybe that's right. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: in Casino Royale, he basically what is a Vesper Martini.
Speaker 1: It's three measures Gordon's gin, one measure vodka, and half lillet.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that. Yeah, Yeah, Casino Royal is actually
Speaker 1: really good. The rest of those Daniel Craig movies are awful,
Speaker 1: but I'm in the minority. My favorite Bond movie of
Speaker 1: all time is Licensed to Kill and Uh. Timothy Dalton
Speaker 1: is the most true to form Bond character, like Sean Connery, obviously,
Speaker 1: he's the most iconic actor to play Bond in the movies.
Speaker 1: But Bond is written by Ana Fleming, is like Timothy Dalton.
Speaker 1: He's something about He's like, he's like a homicidal maniac
Speaker 1: and he's just very very jaded, you know, uh, Intelligence
Speaker 1: service assassin. And I thought Timothy Dalton played really well.
Speaker 1: And Eliza Gilles Dup it's got a it's got a
Speaker 1: young Benicio del Toro. It's it's got like Miami vice vibes.
Speaker 1: Because before Bond ends up in Mexico, like taking down
Speaker 1: the cartel, and when he gets to Mexico, he's, uh,
Speaker 1: he's he's like hanging around Spanish villas in his tuxedo.
Speaker 1: But before that he's uh, he's running around Miami dressed
Speaker 1: like Sonny Crockett and he's blasting people with uh, with
Speaker 1: a mac tenn and stuff, you know, And uh, which
Speaker 1: one is that licensed to kill? The What was I
Speaker 1: gonna say? Oh? Fucking what did he drive in that?
Speaker 1: I can't remember? I can't either. It was uh. I
Speaker 1: think the the the featured released for part of an
Speaker 1: Acid Murder and MG, I think because I would have
Speaker 1: remembered if it was something else. I haven't seen it
Speaker 1: in many moons. But that's my favorite Bond movie, but
Speaker 1: I don't remember if it was something if it was
Speaker 1: something Bond Exotic, i'd remember the grosses to front was
Speaker 1: Pierce bros. And then like Bond's an Irish guy who
Speaker 1: drives a BMW, the fuck is that might as well
Speaker 1: make him a fucking a homo, you know, I like
Speaker 1: have him played by like Wesley Snipes and be gay,
Speaker 1: you know, like how the Bond can't be fucking Irish.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not, I'm not trashing tags. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like Bond can't be Irish. It'd be like Michael Collins
Speaker 1: being a fucking being played by John Cleets, you know,
Speaker 1: but said Nego, said Gens, I got Stiphilis from the
Speaker 1: Black Ship to be fair, and they like at the
Speaker 1: Bond probably is always like packing like frightening organisms and
Speaker 1: his balls, considering like how he gets around, like Bond
Speaker 1: does a lot of things you really shouldn't be doing
Speaker 1: with his penis man like, like I'm not some kind
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not prude, but you know, uh, as
Speaker 1: part of like this, as part of as part of
Speaker 1: like the Protti team, like I got to condemn Bond
Speaker 1: for like acting like a fucking Italian.
Speaker 2: It's like, what's wrong with you? We don't do that ship, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't. The meds they have no self control?
Speaker 1: What something? No exactly. I mean that's why you like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, because you know, I like a like a
Speaker 1: Latin guy, uh, or you know, an Italian guy like
Speaker 1: didn't like pussy and didn't like to eat too much.
Speaker 1: It'd be like, what's wrong with you? You know, I
Speaker 1: rely on them to do that, just like they rely
Speaker 1: on me to be like uptight and stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Bond definitely is a bon Bond definitely has like some
Speaker 1: bad stuff going on below to waste, but you know,
Speaker 1: uh yeah. And the Timothy Dalton unfortunately only started in
Speaker 1: two movies. The Living Daylights was dope all. So that's
Speaker 1: where Bond ends up in Afghanistan, and so one of
Speaker 1: the like a framing device, like the last start of
Speaker 1: the movie is, you know, the Soviet or in Afghanistan
Speaker 1: and he clicks up with the Moushad Dean and stuff.
Speaker 1: But Olivia Dabbo, she was She was a real piece
Speaker 1: of ass man. She was one of the nicer Bond
Speaker 1: girls to look at. But yeah, I uh, I was
Speaker 1: always a Timothy Dalton fan Man. He spent in a
Speaker 1: lot of strange movies. He was in Flash Gordon, Like
Speaker 1: you played like the Tree Prince Guy where you know,
Speaker 1: and that's an awesome set piece where you're going to
Speaker 1: be part of like the tree Warrior people. You have
Speaker 1: like stick your hand in this log and there's this
Speaker 1: like pulsating scorpion that stings you and then you die.
Speaker 1: Like it's really weird. And at least, uh, when I
Speaker 1: was like when I was a little kid, at least
Speaker 1: they used to show Flash Gordon all the time on
Speaker 1: early cable, so it was on all of those movies.
Speaker 1: I just like watch all the times it was on,
Speaker 1: and uh, the optics of it are are interesting, like
Speaker 1: very European. There's like this one the way that it
Speaker 1: pops it it wilds me like Mario Bava's color schemes
Speaker 1: or something, you know, like Planet of the Vampires, which
Speaker 1: is which is That's an awesome movie. We should watch
Speaker 1: it in our movie series, you know, like and there's
Speaker 1: shot for shot. There's set pieces that Ridley Scott lifted
Speaker 1: for Alien, Like I'm not that's it's a proper homage,
Speaker 1: and like Alien is awesome. Aliens is fucking homo. But
Speaker 1: alien is awesome. But anyway, the original Flash Gordon movie,
Speaker 1: when I was a little kid, they'd still run the
Speaker 1: Flag Gordon comic strip in the Chicago Tribune, and uh,
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool because it was, uh it
Speaker 1: was throwback, but in a linear way. They still had Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're probably gonna eighth artist or whatever like
Speaker 1: drawing it by then. But you know, he was some
Speaker 1: old guy who knew the guy who knew the guy
Speaker 1: you knew, the guy who started it in that was
Speaker 1: cool when uh.
Speaker 2: You know what I didn't realize. I didn't realize how
Speaker 2: how old Timothy Dalton is. He's eighty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he was. Uh that's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: he didn't last his bond, because there was one. Bond.
Speaker 1: Pictures are kind of failing at the tail end of
Speaker 1: the Roger More era, you know. And then there was
Speaker 1: that bizarre situation where Connery started Never Seen Ever Again
Speaker 1: the same year, which was like not put up a
Speaker 1: United Artists, and then Octapussy was put out by Roger
Speaker 1: Moore u A, I mean, and uh, neither one performed
Speaker 1: well and Dalton was uh, yeah, he was already in
Speaker 1: his forties and then the third picture he was supposed
Speaker 1: to do ended up in development hell, and by the
Speaker 1: time it got resolved, he was he was too old
Speaker 1: to plete bond. But uh and my my sharks fell down,
Speaker 1: like I got to I got this shark that keeps
Speaker 1: me company up here in the I see, but yeah,
Speaker 1: he what was I gonna say? Uh And mister Shark's
Speaker 1: got a chill here because he doesn't fit. But no,
Speaker 1: and it was cool. Uh I guess I guess like
Speaker 1: some I guess some of the comic strips are still going,
Speaker 1: but they're you know, they're just I got on line
Speaker 1: wasn't the same, you know, And uh I remember my
Speaker 1: favorite comic strip was Shoe because like shit libs read
Speaker 1: Duonsbury well like based people, right, Shoe that was the
Speaker 1: way I throw down. And Shoe was hilarious because it's
Speaker 1: all about birds for no reason. It's like everybody's just
Speaker 1: like an anthem bird. And I, uh I try and
Speaker 1: uh I try and turn youngsters onto Shoe who are
Speaker 1: into you know, comics, like politically coded comics, and uh that,
Speaker 1: uh Family Circus was hilarious too. My pastor he'd uh,
Speaker 1: he'd literally cite like Family Circus periodically he was like
Speaker 1: a humorless man. But Family Circus was like the Calvinist
Speaker 1: comic strip. So of course I was deliberately not funny.
Speaker 1: I know, that was I gotta. When I was in
Speaker 1: high school, I got a chuckle out of bloom County. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh Fred Bassett was pretty funny too, like in
Speaker 1: subtly weird ways. I uh, the one uh, the one
Speaker 1: kind of internet comic strip I do like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's were like a rift than like an ip unto himself,
Speaker 1: but the Jersey villic in the day Garfield without Garfield.
Speaker 1: It's like Garfield comic strips, but Garfield is removed, so
Speaker 1: it seems like really weird. It's either like John Arbuca
Speaker 1: like talking to himself like an insane person, or like
Speaker 1: shit just happening that seems like existentially disturbing for weird reasons.
Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. It's like, wait, way better than the
Speaker 1: way better than the like the actual Garfield strip. But no,
Speaker 1: it was, uh, you know, it's surprisingly you know, it's
Speaker 1: pretty dope, man, like believe it or not. Until I
Speaker 1: was in high school, i'd follow in the Tribune. The
Speaker 1: Spider Man comic strip was totally different than like the
Speaker 1: comic book and like the only books that the only
Speaker 1: comic books I read. I was a huge fan of
Speaker 1: dark Horse comics, like the Terminator. Dark Horse comic was awesome.
Speaker 1: Dead World. You know Vince Locke, he's the guy who
Speaker 1: does all the Cannibal Corpse cover art, which is like
Speaker 1: really really raw. He did this book called Dead World
Speaker 1: and uh, some sort of interdimensional eighty gets torn open,
Speaker 1: and uh, these legions of the dead pour in. But
Speaker 1: they're not like Romero zombies or or something or anything
Speaker 1: like that. They're like intelligent beings and they create this
Speaker 1: like Kingdom of the Dead on Earth, and they enslave
Speaker 1: the living and like they eat them too, but they
Speaker 1: they make them into they basically like fire them like
Speaker 1: cattle and stuff. And I'd read that one, and uh,
Speaker 1: of course, uh, two thousand and eight D you know,
Speaker 1: Judge Dread was great. I think most people associated with
Speaker 1: the silly in the in America, he's the silly es
Speaker 1: stalone movie. But the real two thousand and eight D
Speaker 1: comic was where a movie was hardware. That's a great film, man,
Speaker 1: We gotta watch that on our movie series two. But
Speaker 1: then in the defense of the stallone Dread movie. It's
Speaker 1: like a growth miscast. But the set pieces are awesome,
Speaker 1: and like the ABC Warrior is awesome, and the set
Speaker 1: piece is uh, you know the scene where like Armanda
Speaker 1: Sante he goes to the pawn shop to pick up
Speaker 1: the lawgiver and then he like blows away the pawnbroker
Speaker 1: and he activates the ABC robot. But that scene where
Speaker 1: he's walking on the street, you know that's all. There's
Speaker 1: no CGI in that. There's like a matte painting obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, if you know what to look for, we
Speaker 1: can tell. But it looks pretty seamless and there's like
Speaker 1: one hundred extras and crazy costumes, and that's probably the
Speaker 1: best cyberpunk city scape you know, this side of Blade Runner.
Speaker 1: You know that film does have some things going for it.
Speaker 1: I remember I saw it on the big screen and
Speaker 1: on the one as of the huge Dread fan, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: this this is this ship. But on the other hand,
Speaker 1: I'm like, but you know, these optics are great. What
Speaker 1: was your what's your take on like Germo del Toro,
Speaker 1: I don't have I know that people have been giving
Speaker 1: high praise to is Frankenstein movie that just came out.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, though, I'm reluctant. Uh, Like, what
Speaker 1: specifically remind me of what you read?
Speaker 2: Did you read the Strain the String book with Carlton?
Speaker 2: With you did with Hogan's Familiar with They also did
Speaker 2: a FX mini series on it. Well, it was an
Speaker 2: FX multi they did for like four or five years.
Speaker 2: It's one of the more interesting takes on, like the vamporism.
Speaker 1: Okay, did uh did uh? Did Gerritaltoro collaborate with Robert?
Speaker 1: Where you guys are thinking of somebody else?
Speaker 2: That's a good question, my huh. I mean just watching
Speaker 2: that this.
Speaker 1: Is on my mind them because the other day I
Speaker 1: was watching From Dusk Till Dawn and like, I I've
Speaker 1: always really liked that movie Juliet Lewis. I was thought,
Speaker 1: Julia Lewis is really beautiful. She looks a lot like
Speaker 1: our friend NESSA believe it or not, I mean necessary
Speaker 1: pretty too. But they're uh, it's like I'm not just
Speaker 1: saying that, like it's uh, she looks a lot likeer,
Speaker 1: which is funny, but uh, what's her name? Selma hayak In?
Speaker 1: That is it looks amazing. Speaking of Spanish, brou.
Speaker 2: Apparently apparently Gama Gamma del Toro and Robert Rodriguez collaborated
Speaker 2: on Mimic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. That's a weird movie, man. That's it's
Speaker 1: that's actually a better creature feature than most. I thought
Speaker 1: it's gross because you know, it's it's these like corporal
Speaker 1: figia bugs like these like mega cockroach is you know.
Speaker 1: And there's that scene where like in the subway they breach.
Speaker 1: I guess what's like the cockroach nest and there's this
Speaker 1: humans and like, I really hate cockroaches. This property I
Speaker 1: worked at had an infestation because there was this gym
Speaker 1: and the basement, but it was also a residential premises
Speaker 1: on the upper floors and we shared this storage area
Speaker 1: and one time they came pouring out of the walls.
Speaker 1: It was like in that Creepshow segment or something. And
Speaker 1: like cockroaches, I'm not generally screamingshew bugs, but your mind's
Speaker 1: like hardwired to find them totally repulsive. Like roaches, they're awful.
Speaker 1: But in that mimic film, close to the climax where
Speaker 1: they're in the subway and you know the mimic, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a mimic because it's like found a way to
Speaker 1: you know, some predators develop like a pigmentation pattern or something,
Speaker 1: so they look like something else. Well, his mimic like
Speaker 1: looks like a person then like opens up and it's
Speaker 1: like this disgusting roach and it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was pretty cool. What about it? Kind of like,
Speaker 1: go ahead? What about Splice? What did you think? What
Speaker 1: did you think of that movie? I can't remember it Adrian.
Speaker 2: Brady and Sarah Polly.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen it. I've seen Oh, it's
Speaker 1: just the film house. Thinking of that kind of reminded
Speaker 1: me of the cock Roast movie.
Speaker 2: You do you know the Italian Well, he's I mean
Speaker 2: he's American Italian Vincenzo Natalie.
Speaker 1: I think so Cube Cipher. Yeah, Cub's awesome. I just
Speaker 1: I just linked that the other day on the Burdon
Speaker 1: beaver Gang channel.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Splice is about they try to do create
Speaker 2: hybrids and it just it goes way fucking south and.
Speaker 1: Gets Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen it, but I'm familiar
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, yeah, it's a yeah. But I that
Speaker 1: Robert Robert Rodriguez was in my mind because from Dusk
Speaker 1: Fell Dawn and that's uh that's a great movie. I
Speaker 1: actually think Quentin Tarantino actually has pretty decent acting shops
Speaker 1: And I remember, uh, when I saw that movie. I
Speaker 1: saw it on cable for some reason. It wasn't really
Speaker 1: on my radar when it hit theaters. But uh, in
Speaker 1: the first half of that movie, you think it's just
Speaker 1: like a heist movie, and I'm like, okay, like there's
Speaker 1: a movie about he's like a high incident bandits and
Speaker 1: this dude's brother is like a psycho when he's trying
Speaker 1: to hold it together. Then suddenly there's like, uh, like
Speaker 1: like vampires everywhere, and it's it's like I took work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew what it was going to be, and
Speaker 2: I took my ex wife to it, and well not
Speaker 2: my ex wife actually was my girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 1: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: This was way back and she's just sitting there, has
Speaker 2: no idea. At that point, she's like, holy shit, what
Speaker 2: the hell am I watching? I think that's what she said. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's awesome too. It was like Tom Savini's awesome.
Speaker 1: Uh. Yeah, he's a fascinating guy and he reminds me
Speaker 1: of I can't remember I mentioned this in one of
Speaker 1: our dreams growing up Uh, well, when I was a
Speaker 1: little kid, my best friend was this guy named Brian Kinney.
Speaker 1: He was like this hell raising guy, like like Irish guy,
Speaker 1: like what used to be called in a less delegators
Speaker 1: that you know, black Irish because he was real. He
Speaker 1: was like he was like this little mischievous dude when
Speaker 1: like jet black hair, like he almost if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for his like washed out, pale skinny he could have
Speaker 1: been like Spanish or something. But he loved horror movies.
Speaker 1: So it was like one of the things we bonded
Speaker 1: over when we were like eight nine years old, and
Speaker 1: so he started doing like makeup and stuff. Like he'd
Speaker 1: flip through like famous Monsters and Fangoria and stuff and
Speaker 1: like imitate like what Thom Savigni and stuff was doing.
Speaker 1: And that's all we were like eight nine years old.
Speaker 1: Like on Halloween, he'd do his own makeup, you know,
Speaker 1: just with like we'd like shoplift those like monster makeup
Speaker 1: kids from like the Variety store, and then he'd like
Speaker 1: raid his mom's like makeup and stuff. It was insane.
Speaker 1: And like this one year, we go to this Halloween
Speaker 1: party and we're like eleven, and we know this girl
Speaker 1: named Jessica Showfelt and she had a she had a
Speaker 1: fraternal twin brother named Matt and uh he was like
Speaker 1: really good looking too, like their mom and dad was
Speaker 1: really attractive people, and just like as a riff for Halloween,
Speaker 1: like Brian Kinney, he made up Jessica's brother to look
Speaker 1: like her and the dude like looked like a girl,
Speaker 1: like a shit you not. And uh, this kid maybe
Speaker 1: Rick Doring, you know, like everybody in real life that
Speaker 1: was like dirt bag poor kid like Kenny in South
Speaker 1: Park who's like just like a dirt bag from Joe,
Speaker 1: like Rick Doring what he saw and he's like, I
Speaker 1: don't care men, I fuck him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was always one guy, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But Brian Kenny he went on like after eighth grade.
Speaker 1: He had kind of a sad home life. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I like my mom would
Speaker 1: let him hang around a lot. That's when my mom
Speaker 1: was saying, you know, because she knew things were like screwy.
Speaker 1: But he had a dad who was never around. He
Speaker 1: would like run out in the family, but his dad
Speaker 1: worked in Hollywood, and uh, so Brian went on. Uh,
Speaker 1: he did a bunch of the makeup on The Walking
Speaker 1: Dead and like in a bunch of horror movies like
Speaker 1: you'll you'll see him like credited, which is dope, man,
Speaker 1: Like he uh, because I lost track of dude for uh,
Speaker 1: you know, like thirty years. Then one time when I
Speaker 1: was strung out, Uh, this girl who was staying with me,
Speaker 1: she like she used to like The Walking Dead, you know,
Speaker 1: and so I guess that's what she'd she watched that,
Speaker 1: and I you know, and sometimes like i'd watch it
Speaker 1: with her because we were crashing at this trap house
Speaker 1: hotel and I see they credit like Brian Kinney for
Speaker 1: you know, like Zombie if something like no fucking way,
Speaker 1: and then like sure enough, like I google him and
Speaker 1: it's like it's like that dude, you know, and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm like that's freaking awesome, man, but yeah, yeah it
Speaker 1: uh And that's kind of when I like when I
Speaker 1: was riffing on Carl this morning, like in our chat,
Speaker 1: like you took that the wrong way, like the reason why. Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't like mad or nothing, but you know,
Speaker 1: when I was asking him about the new job and stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like, I'm anti job. It's because
Speaker 1: uh whatether it is I realize I'm so blessed now
Speaker 1: is they can just kind of like write stuff and
Speaker 1: you know, work on things I think are important because
Speaker 1: that's what I always wanted to do, you know. And
Speaker 1: like even like Brian Keny and I when uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we were doing well. We were doing like little kids
Speaker 1: stuff and you know, like stealing monster magazines and shit
Speaker 1: and pealing around. Like we talked about that, like how
Speaker 1: we got to find a way to like not have
Speaker 1: to have jobs. And it made me feel good too,
Speaker 1: like once I straightened out that, like we made good
Speaker 1: on it. We both figured it out, Like Brian Kinney
Speaker 1: figured out a way to like make his monsters and
Speaker 1: I figured out a way to like, you know, puck
Speaker 1: away on my keyboard. Man.
Speaker 2: So I and I've always been a loud mouth, so
Speaker 2: I figured out how to make a living talking and well,
Speaker 2: and I've always been good at listening to other people,
Speaker 2: you know, talk, and I think that's, uh, that's helpful.
Speaker 2: You know. I read How to Win Friends and Influence
Speaker 2: People when I was like seventeen years old, and the
Speaker 2: whole point of that book, he says, is just if
Speaker 2: you if you want people to think you're a good person.
Speaker 2: And you want to get to people to like you,
Speaker 2: just let them talk, just let them talk about themselves.
Speaker 1: Oh no, the people are vean man. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: I find well, No, And I I make it a
Speaker 1: point to listen to people like you and Burden are
Speaker 1: better interviewers than I am, because that's a real skill,
Speaker 1: you know. And uh, I always of a guest on
Speaker 1: the mind Phaser pod because I think a give and
Speaker 1: take is is better than just holding forth on a
Speaker 1: subject mater and and that also helps me remain focused.
Speaker 1: But I tend to get I tend to get really
Speaker 1: into mental space, especially on my areas of concentration. But
Speaker 1: I make it a point, I I you know, I
Speaker 1: I make it a point to listen to people and
Speaker 1: take in what they're saying, because I mean not just
Speaker 1: because it's a matter of respect. And I don't associate
Speaker 1: with people who I don't learn stuff from because you know,
Speaker 1: that's it's a waste of time, like hang around idiots,
Speaker 1: that's saying. It's saying hang around fact girls, Like what's
Speaker 1: the point. But I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: Is nice people, But I've actually had people, you know,
Speaker 2: some people will be like that. I love your interview style.
Speaker 2: You just let people talk, you don't interrupt. You're not
Speaker 2: like Alex Jones, where every five seconds you have to interrupt.
Speaker 2: And I was all right, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But
Speaker 2: also I've had people be like, well, you know, you
Speaker 2: should have challenged this person there. I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna challenge somebody unless I think they're completely fucking off
Speaker 2: base and they need to be challenged, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: unless it's unless it's egregious that you know, it's like,
Speaker 2: come on, what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Well, but it's also I don't want yeah, unless somebody
Speaker 1: is like flavoringly lying or is doing some performative bullshit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people came up here with somebody at Agro when I
Speaker 1: had e Michael Jones on because because Jones, uh so
Speaker 1: do I see like tigs out and just becomes a
Speaker 1: kid irishman. But also like but also there's times where
Speaker 1: you know he is his sectarian prejudices come out. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna like sit around and like
Speaker 1: argue like pro wrestling style with some guy who's like
Speaker 1: saying dumb shit about they're a form of faith. I'm
Speaker 1: just not you know, And It's like, what when I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to say, like, I'm not gonna like change Jones's mind,
Speaker 1: you know. And I mean, I like, I like you,
Speaker 1: Michael Jones. I'm not trying to say mean things about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, and he was actually very cool to me,
Speaker 1: you know, and I I it was a good it
Speaker 1: was a good interview.
Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, but I you know, there were there
Speaker 2: were a couple of things he said where you where
Speaker 2: I would have been like, come on, you know. It's like,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm like I've always said, I'm
Speaker 2: probably the most Protestant Catholic anyone ever knows, because I can.
Speaker 2: I can recite Calvin, and I can recite Gil and
Speaker 2: I can you know, I can recite them all because
Speaker 2: I studied him. But it's like sometimes he just it's
Speaker 2: almost like he's saying stuff to get a reaction at you.
Speaker 2: And it's like, dude, you're way too old to be
Speaker 2: doing that. Ship you know, no, And I think and on.
Speaker 1: The other side too, I know, I mean, I know
Speaker 1: guys within my own tradition who go around like baiting
Speaker 1: Catholics because I mean, they're they're bigoted, and I try not.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a bigoting person. That word has
Speaker 1: been hijacked, like people claim you like being a bigot.
Speaker 1: If you acknowledge, you know, if you acknowledge onethological realities
Speaker 1: about who your people's enemies are, that's not being a
Speaker 1: big It is being a bigot is like, you know,
Speaker 1: rendering a caricature of somebody's of somebody's confessional heritage, owing
Speaker 1: owing to you know, personal hostility. And that's what he does.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think it's a bad look. But unfortunately
Speaker 1: a lot of people his age, that's their thing. But
Speaker 1: it's also too I mean a lot of Uh I'm
Speaker 1: not remotely anti Catholic. I mean my the cadre here
Speaker 1: that treats me so well, or or all Catholic guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I'm in Chicago, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: always the minority on the ground, which is fine, It
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me at all, but uh I, guys like
Speaker 1: Jones also for his as knowledgeable as he is about
Speaker 1: the history of the Roman Church and its nuance, is
Speaker 1: he he doesn't know anything about he doesn't know anything
Speaker 1: about the Reform tradition. He's one of these guys who
Speaker 1: has this character in his mind, there's this thing called
Speaker 1: the Protestant Church, and it's represented by some idiot like
Speaker 1: Donald Trump or some like goofy lesbian secular humanist lady
Speaker 1: who like claims she's a Methodist pastor but you know,
Speaker 1: is running some kind of tax exempt NGO and her
Speaker 1: congregation consists of like two like ninety year old blue
Speaker 1: haired ladies. I don't know where they are, you know it,
Speaker 1: I uh, there is no Protestant church, you know?
Speaker 2: And I well that was that became very clear when
Speaker 2: Tucker Friar Tuck interviewed some a guy who had gone
Speaker 2: to that PAULA White church that's Trump's spiritual advisor, and
Speaker 2: there was like no one, there was no one there.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean who It's like, I said, it's like
Speaker 1: when technically there's a Catholic church in the PRC that
Speaker 1: is legal, where they talk about how like MAO could
Speaker 1: like make it rain by like weaving his hands around
Speaker 1: or something. Literally, nobody goes to that church because your
Speaker 1: church is the Communist Party. And like in America, if
Speaker 1: if you're some like weird secular humanist gay lady, the
Speaker 1: you know that the regime is your church, Like why
Speaker 1: why are you gonna go to uh, why are you
Speaker 1: gonna go to like a disused uh building and like
Speaker 1: pretend that you know you're you're you're engaged in Sunday worship, like, well,
Speaker 1: the regime nobody's want. People don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what people don't understand is is that the regime
Speaker 2: is most people's religion. Now, yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 2: you what your opinions are on Caleb Moppin, but you
Speaker 2: know he's he's true Marxist. I mean, this is a
Speaker 2: I mean, and he knows what he's talking about. He's
Speaker 2: not one of these people. I mean, he can quote Marx,
Speaker 2: he can quote and he talks about how he'll go.
Speaker 2: He'll go to like these quote unquote leftist marches where
Speaker 2: they're marching for you know, for like oh to mark
Speaker 2: the pro Israel March or something like that that's being
Speaker 2: put on by leftists, and he'll like be waving an
Speaker 2: Iranian flag. And then he said, that's when you realize
Speaker 2: he goes. These people who think that they're like revolutionaries
Speaker 2: are just regime toty state the regime.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't I don't understand these system lackeys,
Speaker 1: like they they insist that there's some sort of rebel
Speaker 1: element when like their whole their whole tank is we
Speaker 1: love the government. We want to arrest people who have
Speaker 1: the sending views, you know. I think the point like uh,
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty five, like the cops who were like
Speaker 1: shutting down Elvis concerts for you know, what they viewed
Speaker 1: as agitating lump and elements and you know, exciting teenage
Speaker 1: girls below the waist, These cops weren't going around insisting
Speaker 1: that they were like rock and roll, you know, Like
Speaker 1: so why does why do like Karen's and like these
Speaker 1: like female regime white niggers like insist that like they're rebels.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. It's like it's just like an
Speaker 1: odds of reality. It's like you're the It's like you
Speaker 1: people like call the police on me and my friends
Speaker 1: for no reason because you're like scared of everything, and
Speaker 1: that's your solution to problems. You know. I would never
Speaker 1: ever call the police for any reason. Like that's the
Speaker 1: difference between me and them, you know. And I don't
Speaker 1: know why they can't get this through their head. Like
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, there are very few reasons to
Speaker 1: call the police anymore, and most of them have. Most
Speaker 1: of them would have to do with like insurance, like well,
Speaker 1: who like yeah, calls the police to like manage his
Speaker 1: problems as there's something really wrong with them, you know.
Speaker 1: But I just I don't. I mean, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: I'm over simplifying things. But it's a good litmus test
Speaker 1: and for whether you're like a system adjacent person or
Speaker 1: whether you're you know, outlaw coded. I just don't like
Speaker 1: the whole I just don't understand like the literacy of
Speaker 1: these fucking people, Like it's you know, like I, uh,
Speaker 1: John Leyden, he's uh, he's one of these guys like
Speaker 1: Johnny Ramone was who actually like aged in a dignified
Speaker 1: way and understood that like when you get older, things change.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't just go around being some counterfeit
Speaker 1: version of your nineteen year old self, because that's pathetic.
Speaker 1: But this idea that the punk movement was a bunch
Speaker 1: of like boogie liberals who love the government, Like I
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, you know. So if you're if you're gonna
Speaker 1: call John Lyden to sellout for second twenty sixteen, well,
Speaker 1: like really the only you know, the only the only
Speaker 1: rebel energy is min Donald Trump and a bunch of
Speaker 1: Karens are saying, you know, that's not punk. It's like
Speaker 1: what punk is being some like urban white lady who
Speaker 1: calls the police on everybody.
Speaker 2: Like I really, as much as I am a huge
Speaker 2: fan of the Ramones, actually display Rockets of Russia over there,
Speaker 2: because I think that's one of the greatest albums of
Speaker 2: all time.
Speaker 1: It's solid, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the I think Johnny was the only gentile in
Speaker 2: that band right in the beginning.
Speaker 1: D D d Ramone was h D d Ramone was
Speaker 1: a he was half German and his dad was an army.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Marky was like Greek and Italian or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, but Joey and uh, well, what the hell
Speaker 1: was the original drummers. I can't believe this. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: they were. I think they were both tribe. Yeah, joe
Speaker 1: was an interesting guy like he in some ways, uh
Speaker 1: like he was more nuanced than your average Uh. I
Speaker 1: think too. I think I think Joey was actual from
Speaker 1: Long Island, also like Johnny was, uh, I think from
Speaker 1: the Bronx. Johnny was still around where he's was Queen's Queen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But uh no, Joey Ramone, I mean don't like, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, like I was like very much a Jew,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it was like observant, but
Speaker 1: like culturally in terms of his worldview, he's but he
Speaker 1: but he was you know the uh there there emones
Speaker 1: were legit man, you know, and they.
Speaker 2: They from what's it you know from nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 2: it's all the day they died, they died, Johnny and
Speaker 2: Johnny and Joey didn't talk to each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand how I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: There's always It's not unheard of it here. There be
Speaker 1: tensions within bands that where things you know, just are
Speaker 1: no longer friendly. It's almost it's almost like families that
Speaker 1: are strange but still in in all in all emotional
Speaker 1: ways but still live together. But it's it's truly bizarre
Speaker 1: like that. That's why DDE left the band, just like
Speaker 1: I couldn't handle anymore. Like Dde Ramone was always kind
Speaker 1: of like one of my spirit animals because he was
Speaker 1: like this huge fuck up, but he was also like.
Speaker 2: The comment says, I burned it with d D a
Speaker 2: few times back in the day.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah. The uh well, that's just crazy. He
Speaker 1: went down to the Bowery. You could hang out with them.
Speaker 1: I mean they well they would show, yeah, they would show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why I hate it in
Speaker 1: the Nation is a is an awesome documentary and it's
Speaker 1: really weird that it was Todd Phillips, uh like student film.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a fascinating time capsule. But also d
Speaker 1: D's in it because the murder junkies. Uh. He ended
Speaker 1: up jamming with him because uh, Murle used to ride
Speaker 1: his bicycle around Alphabet C and he just ran into
Speaker 1: DEDI and he's like, hey, man, like you you know,
Speaker 1: my my brother and I are we're getting a new
Speaker 1: band together. You gotta you gotta come with us. So
Speaker 1: d He's like, yeah, man, I'll do that. It's like
Speaker 1: and like we're all with the point later like not
Speaker 1: in in the hat of the names, but he's like
Speaker 1: he's like, DDE, he didn't really realize how famous he was.
Speaker 1: He like you viewed himself just kind of is this guy,
Speaker 1: you know, like obviously he knew that, you know, he
Speaker 1: got a lot of respect from people in the scene
Speaker 1: and stuff, but he was he was kind of like
Speaker 1: a fucking space cadet. It wasn't like an actor or something.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just draw it, I mean being an addict
Speaker 1: in help.
Speaker 2: But you know, no, they put out album under d King.
Speaker 1: Yeah that that it's awful. It's uh, I mean that
Speaker 1: he also got that idea when he was in rehab,
Speaker 1: and like rehab these weird things to people, especially if
Speaker 1: you're coming off heroin opiates, and especially a heroin or
Speaker 1: more psychoactive than people think. If people get weird when
Speaker 1: uh that like and if you're already kind of screwy,
Speaker 1: like de d Ramone is like him deciding like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna become like a white Ramper and it's gonna
Speaker 1: like blow up. And like he later too like that
Speaker 1: album made no sense. He didn't know why he did it,
Speaker 1: but it's it's pretty funny. But uh the uh but no,
Speaker 1: I uh there Emones are you know kind of like Motorhead,
Speaker 1: you know they that's real rock and roll and uh
Speaker 1: you know, like, uh, let's do It's it's awesome too,
Speaker 1: Like you know, a lot of the later Ramone stuff
Speaker 1: like Poison Heart that some of my favorite stuff they did. Man,
Speaker 1: even though it's like very different you know then like
Speaker 1: rocket to Russia and ship like that. But uh, you
Speaker 1: know they also they they call it quarts in ninety
Speaker 1: six because you know, like I said, you know, they
Speaker 1: weren't gonna Johnny's like not, you know, I was gonna
Speaker 1: become something like old guy, you know, like pretending to
Speaker 1: be a teenager. And because that, you know that that
Speaker 1: that would have killed their legacy. I mean, Joey was
Speaker 1: in real bad health for like the last five years
Speaker 1: of theirmones anyway, and he uh, I know people claim that,
Speaker 1: you know, he he died. I think right right around
Speaker 1: the time he durned fifty. I don't know, people claim like, well,
Speaker 1: we didn't know he was that far gone. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you did. Man, like the dude, you know, he broke
Speaker 1: his hip and went to the hospital and then just
Speaker 1: didn't come out because like his you know, he was
Speaker 1: he was he he had he you know, he's fighting
Speaker 1: cancer and midt lean stuff and uh and it's kind
Speaker 1: of amazing those last shows, you know, uh, like when
Speaker 1: CJ was touring with him and stuff, and I think
Speaker 1: they even Galapalooz in ninety six. I mean they were
Speaker 1: that mean, it was the ramones. They sounded they sounded great.
Speaker 1: You know, it's uh because I deal with you know,
Speaker 1: health thanky, nothing like cancer, but it you know, having
Speaker 1: to be on and just deal with people, you know,
Speaker 1: even if there are people who love and being on
Speaker 1: the road, it's it's like exhausting, man. And that's why
Speaker 1: I when I get off the road, I need to
Speaker 1: take like four or five days and not do anything,
Speaker 1: you know, because uh, I just feel really banged up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then im and the way I mean, there were
Speaker 1: there were.
Speaker 2: Moments except after the Lakehouse, because at the Lakehouse you
Speaker 2: could just go.
Speaker 1: Oh that's different. Yeah yeah, yeah, but it's uh but
Speaker 1: it's it's.
Speaker 2: Not like you don't have to be on all the
Speaker 2: time because you know everyone there and everything. So I'm
Speaker 2: so glad I went, and I'm so I'm pissed off
Speaker 2: at myself that I hadn't gone before.
Speaker 1: I told you, man, And like I you know, it's hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know me pretty well, man. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: pretty hard for me to relax, you know. And that's
Speaker 1: why I've been saying for years man that uh, like
Speaker 1: like the lake is uh is essential to like my
Speaker 1: psychic and spiritual will being man and it's it's a
Speaker 1: blast that Uh no, that was really stoked. They came. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this last this was the most the most guys who've
Speaker 1: ever showed up. And it's, uh, this is awesome, man,
Speaker 1: you know, like we're uh, we're like we're like a
Speaker 1: we're like a family, a fraternal society and and and
Speaker 1: like a rebel army. You know, it's pretty awesome. And
Speaker 1: I feel uh blessed that you know, the fellows include
Speaker 1: me in this stuff. But I yeah, even even when
Speaker 1: it's uh, I mean, and I'm lucky that so many
Speaker 1: youngsters want to hang out with me. Like I said
Speaker 1: when I went to the on the Detroit trip, which
Speaker 1: was awesome, Like the Detroit o GC guys, I mean,
Speaker 1: Detroit is fucking lit. Anyway, they're like a bunch of
Speaker 1: young dudes and uh they they kind of put me
Speaker 1: through their Ringer man well plus two, Like I just
Speaker 1: I had to prove that, like I could drink them
Speaker 1: under the table, and I did, but uh.
Speaker 2: You bushmelled them, you bushmellow.
Speaker 1: Bush filled them to death. Yeah, uh yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Want to hang out with the I want to hang
Speaker 2: out with the New York guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah No, that was a blast too. Man. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about that the other day. Uh, that was just
Speaker 1: like an awesome trip, but it was a I needed
Speaker 1: to get away from it because that's right. I forgot swatted,
Speaker 1: which was awful. But uh I I I had an
Speaker 1: incredible time. I mean I I I love New York
Speaker 1: man like I. I don't know how people throw shade
Speaker 1: on it. That's why I like my Yankees cap that
Speaker 1: I got. Then I got that uh from this like
Speaker 1: hat stand right by Manson Square Garden because you know,
Speaker 1: like the garden is right by Penn Station and inexplicably
Speaker 1: there's a fucking Sparrow there. How the fuck is there
Speaker 1: borrowing New York City?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, I remember when they opened up, when
Speaker 2: they opened the Chick fil A in New York City,
Speaker 2: and the line was literally around the block for like
Speaker 2: the first couple of months. I mean, look, I'm in
Speaker 2: the South. I can eat Chick fil A whenever I want.
Speaker 2: It's not that good, no, but at least I understand
Speaker 2: that for the novelty.
Speaker 1: It's weird. But Sporrow, I mean that's fucking uh.
Speaker 2: Why would you have that in New York City?
Speaker 1: It doesn't make Azza like Sporrow was also that Sporrow
Speaker 1: was just like it's just like fucking crap. Like, uh, like,
Speaker 1: if Chicago somebody catch you eating sparrow, they'll like be like,
Speaker 1: do whatever, let me catch it eating it again. It's
Speaker 1: like getting cross sucking a dick or something.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's ketchup on cardboard with some freaking grated
Speaker 2: cheese thrown on it. It's just the fuck does that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: when you could just go to bleak or pizza and
Speaker 2: have like the best slice of pizza you can have
Speaker 2: In New.
Speaker 1: York, I had, uh my friend who was traveling or
Speaker 1: whore I met out there. Uh, we went to the Met,
Speaker 1: which was awesome because this dude, uh, this dude and
Speaker 1: his wife I was staying with. He was doing like
Speaker 1: restoration stuff with the Met, which is really cool and
Speaker 1: like the metsa fans ainting place. I want to take
Speaker 1: a pepsi challenge, And compared to the Art Institute of Chicago,
Speaker 1: they both got everything's going for him. But in any event,
Speaker 1: I can't remember the fucking name of it. But Kathy,
Speaker 1: who I met out there, she wanted to go to
Speaker 1: this pizza places right by the Met that it was
Speaker 1: had like by the Slice pizza. It was like really good.
Speaker 1: Like don't get me wrong, but I'm partial to shys
Speaker 1: On pizza. And it's lot of people think like deep
Speaker 1: dish is good, but that's not generally what people eat
Speaker 1: here on the regular. We eat this stuff called tavern
Speaker 1: style pizza. Crust is uh almost crungy and it's thin,
Speaker 1: but we eat it in squares, you know, like it's
Speaker 1: cut into like little squares, you know. And like jen
Speaker 1: it's like it got its start in bars and stuff.
Speaker 1: And uh, but no New York. New York pizza was dope.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm a pizza fanatic.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, I'm a New York pizza snob. But
Speaker 2: I had pizza in Boston and I was impressed.
Speaker 1: Boston's got great food, man, And like the North End
Speaker 1: Italian food is. I mean, this was like over twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. It's probably different now, but uh, I uh,
Speaker 1: there was this Italian bakery that was just fucking great,
Speaker 1: and then there was this there was like this hole
Speaker 1: in the wall, uh like Neopolitan place, which uh that
Speaker 1: kind of like reagion. All the anticity is different than
Speaker 1: like Chicago Italian food. There's some incredible Italian restaurants here.
Speaker 1: They had to be like a fusion like uh like
Speaker 1: like Neopolodinan and Sicilian and like other stuff. You know.
Speaker 1: My fair Italian place here is this place called the Valariti.
Speaker 1: It's around uh eerie and Saint Clair like in Streeterville.
Speaker 1: I Uh, I took Jerry there and Jerry gave it
Speaker 1: two thumbs up, and that's quite an endorsement because uh,
Speaker 1: he's a culture dude, but also he's he's like the
Speaker 1: king of all food critics. But uh I uh people
Speaker 1: ray about like rosebud and stuff, but it's uh, I'm
Speaker 1: doing around Rose. But it's only become like a brand
Speaker 1: like now. They got a couple different locations, and it
Speaker 1: was never I mean Little Italy hasn't probably existed in
Speaker 1: fucking decades because it got it got blasted into pieces
Speaker 1: by the Highway. But uh, Taylor and plus two like such,
Speaker 1: I mean, what was the outfit? Heartland was granted Ogden,
Speaker 1: you know. But Taylor and Laughlin is what touristy types
Speaker 1: call like Little Italy. I don't get me wrong. There's
Speaker 1: some like great grub there, but I'll take Falori over
Speaker 1: a over a Rose Budy did a week.
Speaker 2: We actually we actually have a pretty good Italian restaurant
Speaker 2: here and in rural Alabama, shockingly enough, about a half
Speaker 2: hour north than me. I've taken I've taken Semiagagua Bear,
Speaker 2: I've taken the Red Hawk Bear.
Speaker 1: And there were weird things like showing bridgeticks up his nose.
Speaker 1: I just kidding, he was, he was.
Speaker 2: He was pulling out his two pistols and showing how
Speaker 2: you if you're going to carry a semi automatic, you
Speaker 2: have to have a backup. That's a revolver because semi
Speaker 2: automatics jam all the time.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, he's an alien wizard.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, hit, that's the most boomer coated explanation
Speaker 2: of guns I ever heard. But you know, yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a really good restaurant and I think we're going
Speaker 2: there tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: Well, believe it or not. Man, I was talking to
Speaker 1: Arthur and his wife about this the other day, Like
Speaker 1: we went out to d C. We made a fucking blast,
Speaker 1: Like back in October, went out to d C. We
Speaker 1: met like Burden out there, but Arthur, missus, Arthur and
Speaker 1: one of them white Thai guys. I ended up staying
Speaker 1: in like a household them white Thai guys plus burden,
Speaker 1: which is awesome. Like I made breakfast for all the
Speaker 1: savages and I take pride in my culinary chops and
Speaker 1: they were very happy, so that that made me feel
Speaker 1: very so satisfied. But I uh, we drove out to
Speaker 1: d C from Andersonville, you know, where Arthur and missus
Speaker 1: Arthur lived, and uh, after like fifteen hours in the road,
Speaker 1: we were like starving, so uh in the middle of
Speaker 1: fucking nowhere in Virginia. We got off the highway and
Speaker 1: it just looks like random tie place, you know. And uh,
Speaker 1: Arthur's wife's like you want to like risk it, and
Speaker 1: everybody's like yeah, like we're really hungry. But this tie place,
Speaker 1: man was like awesome and it was like legit, like
Speaker 1: thaie people running it. It was like it was a
Speaker 1: nice place. Uh. I got this like pork low Maine
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I got, like the I don't really
Speaker 1: like Thai food, so I just got I always got
Speaker 1: like the chinkiest thing over the menu. And I like
Speaker 1: cork low Maine because like pigs taste good, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, you can't go wrong with like a well
Speaker 1: prepared like kind of low main thing and then uh
Speaker 1: we got some like vegetable dishes and like shrimp for
Speaker 1: the table. But this place was like fucking fire and
Speaker 1: like Arthur and his wife lived in Thailand, you know,
Speaker 1: because he was like training with uh you know, with
Speaker 1: with some like muay Thai masters over there, like legit,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like Jean Claudevine damn kind of ships.
Speaker 1: But I uh, I'm trying to turn him on into
Speaker 1: Western boxing, like I uh, on his birthday, I got him. Uh,
Speaker 1: I got him with Tommy the Duke Morris and shirt
Speaker 1: because Arthur is like a big white boy with like
Speaker 1: a fucking killer left hook. You know, he's like Landin
Speaker 1: Lever type eye. He's not He's not like a woodpile
Speaker 1: representative like like like the Duke. But uh I uh,
Speaker 1: I like, I like seeing big white boys with tyson
Speaker 1: asque left hooks. So I'm trying I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: more like yeah, looking crazy. You were talking about Thai food.
Speaker 1: It reminded me the best I'm not I'm not big
Speaker 1: on Thai food either, but the best high food I
Speaker 1: ever had was in fucking reikievic Iceland, and it was
Speaker 1: on the end.
Speaker 2: It was on the end of a rural road like
Speaker 2: in the city, like like it's just a little outside
Speaker 2: a restaurant and and it was it almost looked like
Speaker 2: a shot but they had like two tables in there,
Speaker 2: and I went in there with my ex and we're
Speaker 2: we're like, because all right Icelandic food. Yeah, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1: They just like eat stuff like gross stuff like desiccated fish,
Speaker 1: jelly and shit.
Speaker 2: And brains and ship like that. Like how so they
Speaker 2: have KFC's and subways everywhere. So I found it's disgusting,
Speaker 2: like how is that place so open? Like I literally
Speaker 2: like go, I go hungry before I like eat that
Speaker 2: fucking It's like literally pooh, Like who the fuck eats that?
Speaker 2: So I find a random tie place and the people
Speaker 2: speak Tie speak Icelandic and speak English. That's incredibly random
Speaker 2: and weird, but that's well, you know, you know what
Speaker 2: we gotta do sometimes. Uh, you know, Cody's a wife's family.
Speaker 2: They Cody's wedding had like the probably like the most
Speaker 2: overall fun wedding I've ever been too, was like the
Speaker 2: Burden wedding. I mean that that was just like a
Speaker 2: wild time. It was awesome and it was in the
Speaker 2: Blue Mountains and it was just great.
Speaker 1: I mean, I always have fun at weddings, and then
Speaker 1: I'm honored that I'm I'm kind of like uh an
Speaker 1: in demand wedding guest. You know, I always have fun.
Speaker 1: But uh, Cody's wedding at like the best food ever
Speaker 1: and uh you know his wife's uh one hundred percent
Speaker 1: Italian and they her folks run like an Italian restaurant
Speaker 1: and uh it's in striking distance of Kenosha, so it's
Speaker 1: only it's only like an hour and like ten minutes
Speaker 1: away from me. I keep on intending to corral uh
Speaker 1: some of the fellas into going there because I, like
Speaker 1: I said, I've uh you know, the the catering.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean obviously, like you marry an Italian lady, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have You're gonna have some extraordinary food at at
Speaker 1: the at the wedding reception. But you know, like her
Speaker 1: dad like hooked it up and uh, like I was
Speaker 1: talking to her pops, dude like introduce himself like everybody
Speaker 1: every guess of that wedding. It was a big ass wedding.
Speaker 1: Like I know he did considered yourself to me and
Speaker 1: like I mean fuck am I you know, but you
Speaker 1: know I complimented him. I'm like the first Time'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to congratulate the father bride, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, thanks so much for inviting me. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, this food was like exquisite. He's
Speaker 1: a go well, you know, not for nothing. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I got the sausage came to my supplyer blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: like you know, the the leagued he was from, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. So it's like basically like this is the
Speaker 1: stuff uses in his own restaurant. So it's it's killing man.
Speaker 1: And I'm a I'm a sucker for Italian food, you know.
Speaker 1: Like it hurts me the next day, kind of like
Speaker 1: when overdo the bush Mills, but I like, I like
Speaker 1: absorb the pain, you know, and deal with it kind of. Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that because I was about to
Speaker 1: say something really crude, but I'm there's a couple of
Speaker 1: ladies on deck and h plus, uh it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's still to really to be talking that way. And
Speaker 1: I don't know the l by bush Mills at the moment,
Speaker 1: but this is great our dear friend Rob Palmer, he's
Speaker 1: a found the joy there's the blt with avocados. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he said he made it for his mom and
Speaker 1: his hands. I went over really well, yeah awesome. But
Speaker 1: speaking of which, I I'm gonna raise up in a
Speaker 1: minute because I'm going to go get a bot at
Speaker 1: the Landmark. And I got to uh, oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: I had long last. The manuscript is in fact being
Speaker 1: wrapped up. But the hold up was, I mean, not
Speaker 1: much got done once a second, Thomas, what tempis you get? Oh?
Speaker 1: There's this place in Fishtown? He was asking what and
Speaker 1: it was this bar. I took a bunch of photos
Speaker 1: of it. I can't really it's out of my head,
Speaker 1: but that's some of the Philly contingent came and met
Speaker 1: me there and I was like, really hungry man. So
Speaker 1: I asked the barmaid and she's like, oh, there's this
Speaker 1: great sandwich shop. I'll deliver here. So uh, what what
Speaker 1: called an Italian sub and shy Town is different than
Speaker 1: what they served me there? Like based in Chicago, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's salami, boloney and usually copa cola or uh that's
Speaker 1: like these idiots. I'm like the Jewpranos called good but gooo,
Speaker 1: it's like it's capacla you fucking jew fuck. But uh
Speaker 1: they uh sometimes they'll uh thrown for shudos some places.
Speaker 1: Whatever they added in there, it was just like incredible
Speaker 1: and it was almost like a chopped Italian, which another
Speaker 1: one of my favorite sandwiches, because like the meats were
Speaker 1: laid conventionally, but the lettuce and like olives and stuff
Speaker 1: were like chopped and then they were like saturated and
Speaker 1: like submarine dressing. It was like so good, but uh,
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Uh it was whatever place that in
Speaker 1: Fishtown that you know, they they they had me order from,
Speaker 1: but it was dope.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I love Philly man, and like a Philly contingent. It
Speaker 1: was great because uh those guys came to meet me
Speaker 1: and because I had I when you take the Gray
Speaker 1: out of Philly, they they literally just like dropped you
Speaker 1: in the middle of Philly and like get out, you know,
Speaker 1: so I got there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you sent me a picture. You sent me a
Speaker 2: picture where they dropped you, and it was like it
Speaker 2: was on the street, yeah, and.
Speaker 1: It was like a pretty hood area, but I uh
Speaker 1: there was this cop who's just like standing around looking angry.
Speaker 1: But you know, I pretty I got a pretty good
Speaker 1: rapport with people, you know, like even even police weren't
Speaker 1: really people but just kidd But uh so in any event,
Speaker 1: uh I uh you know, I got like my duffel
Speaker 1: bag and stuff too. Uh And I'm like, uh, I'm like,
Speaker 1: hey man, how you doing? And he's like, how you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm like I just got to Philly
Speaker 1: and like they made me get off the bus and
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, where where can I go kill some time?
Speaker 1: Because I can't check it into my hotel for like
Speaker 1: ten hours. And he's like, well, he's like, you can
Speaker 1: go to fish Town and get drunk. And I'm like
Speaker 1: that sounds like a good idea, you know. And uh
Speaker 1: so that's what I did because a bunch of a
Speaker 1: bunch of third shift guys, you know, they're they're getting
Speaker 1: off work at you know, like six in the morning.
Speaker 1: So I'll go to Fishtown and they make breakfast a
Speaker 1: bunch of those bars, Like iess, I just missed breakfast
Speaker 1: when I got there, but uh no, they that I
Speaker 1: made friends with the whole staff. They you all hung
Speaker 1: out there all day, you know, and uh yeah, they
Speaker 1: said come back any time. Where he's welcome here. It
Speaker 1: was pretty dope, manfelt. And and then the Anneal Hillo
Speaker 1: Christmas party. I got this. This uber driver guy was
Speaker 1: a freaking psycho. You know, I mean, I'm going this year.
Speaker 1: Oh no, awesome, yeah yeah. Now the speaking of the
Speaker 1: NLPL guys, I'm kind of rambling wrap it in a minute.
Speaker 1: But no, I had, like in the month of April,
Speaker 1: nothing much got dune, so it was my health was bad.
Speaker 1: But uh, I did the two things with the manuscript
Speaker 1: I had to make. I'd add a conclusion to make
Speaker 1: it readable and titled together. And it was sticking to
Speaker 1: my craw that I didn't include a discussion of the
Speaker 1: Battle of casn, which in my opinion was America's Stalingrad. Okay,
Speaker 1: even though it was a tactical victory, I'm not suggesting
Speaker 1: that the outcome was what made it a parallel incident.
Speaker 1: I mean as the representative factors in the political significance
Speaker 1: and the fact of it being a purely ideological contest
Speaker 1: and ideological considerations rather than material criteria, you know, being
Speaker 1: the cause of Belle. And it would have bothered me
Speaker 1: for the rest of my days that I left that out.
Speaker 1: And I plan to be here for a minute, and
Speaker 1: I plan to write many more books. But if God forbid,
Speaker 1: I wasn't here anymore next week, or if I a
Speaker 1: piano fell on me and I died this afternoon, I
Speaker 1: want this value to stand alone, you know. And that's
Speaker 1: where we're at. So I told Taylor. We talked to
Speaker 1: her texts on Monday, and I told him by the
Speaker 1: end of this weekend, I'll I'll have a working draft
Speaker 1: for him, and I will. But that's not the reason
Speaker 1: we all like the girls at the Landmark a lot
Speaker 1: and guys, because like, uh, they let me hang out
Speaker 1: there and peck pick pick away, and they keep me,
Speaker 1: they keep me plied with belts and bush mills, and
Speaker 1: that's essentially the creative process. You know. I tip well
Speaker 1: too when I get my age. I don't mind. I
Speaker 1: don't mind paying pretty women to like hang around with me,
Speaker 1: even if it's it's just like laughing at my jokes
Speaker 1: because I as they type away at the bar. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this was a This was great, man. I forgive me
Speaker 1: if it was a little bit scattershot and rambly, but
Speaker 1: I I think part of what's and I think part
Speaker 1: of the strength of these streams. Is that they're spontaneous,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, not planned at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, no, well uh yeah, I gotta go
Speaker 2: jump on and start and record with someone else.
Speaker 1: You know. I left this week deliberately chill because for
Speaker 1: that reason, for the work on the manuscript. But tomorrow
Speaker 1: I'm recording with the Burden on On on the Zebra
Speaker 1: Murders tomorrow and that that that's that's serious. Seemed to
Speaker 1: be a big hit so far. Yeah, that's mister Hart's
Speaker 1: is fishing on Sam. It was probably reaches. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think that's what it was, man. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it was really good. But yeah, all right, thank you, Pete.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate, thank you, subs. I really appreciate everybody support,
Speaker 1: especially weight week. But uh yeah, I'll let you go, man,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk this weekend about you know, the content
Speaker 1: stuff we talked about the other day.
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, all right, we'll talk to you. Thanks everyone,
Speaker 2: take care,