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Speaker 1: And here we go. Hi, how are you welcome to

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the Big Podcast. It's Friday, the first day of August,

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year of our Lord, twenty twenty five. My name is

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Tom Sullivan. Wow, we got a busy first day of

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the month. Busy Friday. We've got the jobs report out today.

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We also have It's tariff Day. This is the day

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that tariffs were going to be assessed. And they have

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been some changes going on at the FED, some changes

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going on at the Bureau of Labor Statistics. We had

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Joe Biden and Kamala Harris out in the public last night.

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Joe was giving a speech in Chicago and Kamala was

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on Stephen Colbert's show. So we've got some of that

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to cover. And Falcon nine took off for the International

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Space Station today. Everything went flawlessly for SpaceX. So let's

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start start with the jobs today. Because the jobs report

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was somewhat of a shocker number of payrolls added in

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the month of July. Well, they were expecting it to

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be weak. They thought it would slow down. That the

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labor market is one economist called it basically at stall speed.

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Has been doing great, but I mean, how many more

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jobs can you add? And so they were thinking, okay,

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it'll be around one hundred thousand jobs were added last month.

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And it turned out the report this morning seventy three thousand,

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not even one hundred thousand, which was lowballing it. So this,

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I mean, seventy three thousand payrolls added in the whole

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country in the month of July. And then they went

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back and they revised June it was reported at one

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hundred and forty seven thousand jobs. Instead this morning they said, oh,

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I'm sorry, that's wrong. How about fourteen thousand jobs in

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the entire month of June which was nothing. Then you

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go back to May. May was revised. They originally told

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us it was one hundred and forty four thousand jobs.

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This morning they told us it was nineteen thousand for

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the whole month. So nineteen thousand jobs added in May,

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fourteen thousand added in June. Today's numbers for July seventy

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three thousand. You want to bet, boys and girls, they're

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going to be advising that down to the labor market,

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according to these numbers, has dropped like a rock, unbelievable.

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So the unemployment rate remained unchanged four point two percent.

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Average hourly earnings three point nine percent, which is better

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than the inflation rate. Let's listen to AJ and Tony,

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who's one of the economists commenting on this report.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of things we got to remember as

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we look at this data. One is the fact that

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these massive downward revisions are not new to this year.

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The idea that somehow this is because of staffing shortages

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doesn't explain why we had the massive downward revisions for

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the last four years. Basically, this is a post COVID

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data collection problem when it comes to the jobs numbers.

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In fact, just earlier this week we got the quarterly

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Business Employment Dynamic report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics,

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and sure enough, that showed that twenty twenty four has

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another massive overestimation of the number of nonfarm payrolls. So

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next year, when we get the annual benchmark report for

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that twelve month period from March to March, we're going

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to see another huge annual downward revision. And that's on

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top of the existing month to month downward revisions that

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we've already had and that we clearly continue to have.

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So again, the idea that somehow there's something wrong with

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the data, and it just started this year. That's not

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really new. Again, this is a post COVID problem. The

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BLS probably needs to seriously rethink all of their models,

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whether it's whether it's non farm payrolls, inflation, you name it.

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The other good thing that I saw in this report, though,

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is the fact that a lot of the decreases that

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we've seen are actually coming from the federal government. Since January,

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non farm payrolls at the federal level are down eighty

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four thousands. So they're clearly making good progress in terms

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of cutting the bureaucracy.

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Speaker 1: And that's true. The numbers. One, let's go through just

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a little bit of the numbers. The big gainer for

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jobs last month was healthcare up fifty five thousand jobs.

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Retail followed with a gain of fifteen thousand jobs, and

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leisure and hospitality five thousand, Transportation and warehousing three thousand,

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construction two thousand, the two areas. We have a big

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minus sign on manufacturing, and the President wants to bring

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back all these manufacturing jobs. Manufacturing lost eleven thousand jobs

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last month, and then, as he was saying, eighty four

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thousand year to date, but for the month of July,

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the federal government cut twelve thousand jobs, but since its

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peak at the beginning of the year, the federal government

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has lost eighty four thousand jobs. Here's another economist, Sarah Malax.

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She's with New Vain, the big investment firm. This is

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her take on the numbers today.

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Speaker 3: Well, Jail, before I get to the markets, I want

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to talk about the importance of this private payrolls number

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before there revisions. For last month, private payrolls came in

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at seventy four thousand, which was already down about half

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from the month before. So seeing that downward revision to

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three thousand, I think is very worrying for the US economy. Now,

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this miss and also this downward revision is piling on

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top of three other factors at the markets dealing with

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that's rhetoric around the FED and what's going on there

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with the descent. Also techtok earnings which have been underwhelming,

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starting ending with Amazon and Apple last night, and of

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course Tariff's now coming in at a baseline of fifteen percent,

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which gets you very close, if not to a recession.

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So that I think is all why the market is

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going to continue to directly react poorly. Here you mentioned

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the silver lining, which is what is the FED going

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to do. Let's go back to September twenty twenty four

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when we got that fifty basis point surprise rate cut

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that came after three months of disappointing double digit payroll

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the question is is a FED going to only cut

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by seventy by twenty five or could they cut by

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fifty basis points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to translate for you, that means by a quarter

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of a percent drop or a half a percent drop.

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She also mentioned this private sector revision that came out

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about private sector jobs. Originally the report said there were

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seventy four thousand private sector jobs created last month. That

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was revised down to only three thousand private sector jobs

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added last month. So everything in this jobs report that

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came out today was shockingly big revisions down not only

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for July, but also going back to June and to May.

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So people have questioned the reliability of the numbers coming

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from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, And you've called about it,

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You've sent me emails about it, We've talked about it.

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Guess who else is concerned about it? That would be

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President Trump, and he came out today and said that

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he was planning on firing the official that's in charge

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of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Her name is Erica Mcenterfer.

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She's the commissioner at BLS. She was confirmed on a

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bipartisan basis in twenty twenty four. But there's a lot

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of people coming out and saying, how can she be

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so wrong? Consistently so wrong month after month after month,

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Biden was playing politics, or now is Trump playing politics? No,

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it looks like the BLS Bureau of Labor Statistics is

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just doing a really terrible job. Let's add to the commentary.

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Marcus Leonis he was he had a show called The Prophert.

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He's got a news show coming out this fall. But

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he's basically a wealthy individual goes around buying businesses. And

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he was asked about the head scratcher of this job's

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report and what's going on. Well, I think I'm a

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little concerned.

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Speaker 4: If you look at the revisions that happened in the

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last job report, that number came crashing down, so as

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seventy three thousand really seven thousand. My concern is at

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what point is the FED going to pay attention and

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did they not have a preview to the numbers before

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today right and not understand what was happening. I understand

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that everybody doesn't know what the tariffs are going to do,

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none of us do.

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Speaker 5: But what we do know is that companies.

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Speaker 4: Are in a bit of a gridlock right now. They

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don't want to fire a bunch of people, they don't

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want to hire anybody. It's like everybody's frozen trying to

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wait for the FED to drop some policy numbers, drop

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the rates and give these companies the stimulus that they

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need to want to reinvest in their business. That's not

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happening right now. I think about that in my own businesses.

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I'm not going out and hiring a bunch of people.

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I'm not laying off a bunch of people. But it's

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like we're sitting in no man's land right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think Bosh's name Marcus Lamonnis. In any case, a

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very wealthy guy owns a lot of businesses and he

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feels like a lot of people do that. They don't

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know what the tariffs are going to do, so everybody's

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it's affecting the economy. It affecting hiring and firing. People

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don't want to fire because they don't know if they're

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going to need a bunch more employees. They are not

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hiring though, and that is one of the things that

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is causing a problem with the economy. Speaking of the BED,

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so there is going to be a change at the

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Federal Reserve. Marcus's comment, though, was well taken. They just

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made their decision on Wednesday to leave interest rates unchanged.

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Did they not know? Did they not get a preview

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of the fact that the job's report was going to

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be much worse than expected. Why did they not cut

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interest rates to try to stimulate the economy If it's

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slowing with I mean, it's screeching to a halt three

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months in a row with massive revisions, and the Fed

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did not cut interest rates. They looked foolish. So the

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change at the FED. Now it's not Jay Powell. One

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of the Fed governors. Her name is Adrian Kugler. She

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is going to step down from her position as a

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governor of the Federal Reserve Board on August eighth, so

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a week from now. Her term was due to expire

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in January. But she's giving an early resignation letter today

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that gives President Trump the opportunity to appoint someone that

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may be the replacement for Jerome Powell as the next

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chair of the Federal Reserve. So on Wall Street today,

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it took off straight south, went down about six hundred points.

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Everything's down sharply today. And guess what, a lot of

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the Wall Street people are starting dust off the R word,

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the recession word, because I mean, three months in a row,

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these revisions are unbelievably huge. Then, on top of that,

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University of Michigan came out with their consumer confidence survey

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today and one of the two that always the Conference

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Board does the other one, University of Michigan. They point

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out that consumer confidence is at a six month high. Yes,

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but they ask two questions. The first question is how

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do you think the economy is going right now? And

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that is the six month high where people said, ah,

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we think it's doing great. They think that the four

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and a half percent interest rates that the FED has,

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that's the Federal Reserve Board four and a half percent,

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that they think that that will lower in the coming

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year their expectations. So the second question is what do

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you think the economy is going to be doing six

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months from now? And people thought that that is not

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as good as they originally thought. That adjusted down, but

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people still said they thought that interest rates would be

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somewhere around three point four percent for the next five

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to ten years, which is kind of a silly answer.

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economy is going to be doing long term? And people

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don't know what. I don't know. Nobody knows what interest

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rates are going to be for the next five to

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ten years, let alone the next five to ten months.

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So pretty wacky, pretty wacky bed stuff today and job

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market stuff. President's doing the stuff that he does. He's

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putting out true socials about too late Powell, I agree,

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Powell is what is he waiting for? And he's calling

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him a moron, which, yeah, I don't like that. The

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childish One more comment about the about the feathers. When

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they voted to leave interest rates unchanged on Wednesday, two

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of the Fed governors Bowman and Walter Waller, I should

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say both of them dissented and said no, no, no,

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we should be lowering interest rates. Bowman said inflation will

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not be persistent and that economic growth has slowed down,

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so let's cut rates now. Waller said tariffs are a

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one off hit to inflation and that the labor market

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is near stall speed, and he wanted to cut now.

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So both of them wanted to cut interest rates. The

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Fed Fund's futures shot up today on the chances that

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the Fed will probably be lowering interest rates in September.

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could lower interest rates based on this jobs report today.

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They could have an emergency job interest rate cut. I

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think they should, but I doubt that it will happen.

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All right, let's switch to politics, because there was a

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lot of it today. Last night, Joe Biden was in

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Chicago giving a speech, and Kamala Harris was on Stephen

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candidate on a failed TV show talked about a failed

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campaign and that she served up more word salad while

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admitting that Trump broke her about all that, But it

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certainly is a failed TV show and she did fail

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in her efforts in the campaign. It was interesting because, well,

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what she said last night. She was asked about Stephen

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Colbert asked her about who is the leader of the

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Democrat Party, and she could not name anybody, nobody. And

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she's also got a book out called one hundred and

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seven Days, which was the length of her campaign. And

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I thought about that, and I thought, you know, I think,

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you know, they're complaining about it, like one hundred and

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seven days wasn't enough for her to win the election.

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new law where we only have one hundred and seven

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days allowed for president's presidential campaigns to go because in

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one hundred and seven days, it was abundantly clear who

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you wanted to vote for. There was no question of

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whether you wanted to vote for Donald Trump or Kamala Harris.

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One hundred and seven days is plenty of time. So anyway,

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here's Kamala Harris on Colbert's show last night.

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Speaker 4: Once you left office, how long before you turned on

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the news again?

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Speaker 1: If months?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Months? I you know, I'm just not into self mutilation.

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There should be many who consider themselves to be guardians

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of our system in our democracy who just capitulated and

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I didn't see that coming.

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Speaker 1: The reason she did not see that coming is because

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and she spent the show basically saying that the system

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is broken, and that's why she doesn't want to go

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back out and jump into the California governor's race because

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the system is broken. And I'm thinking, especially in California,

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it's not broken for her. She was. She used the

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system to get elected to be the Attorney General for

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the state of California and then to be elected Senator

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from the state of California. The system worked beautifully for her.

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real competitive race in California. Those races were never competitive.

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She was in a cocoon. She was blessed by the

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Democrat leadership in California and they anointed her and she

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went on to win the election. So the system is

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not broken. She just had a broken campaign. People didn't

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buy it. So here's where Colbert asked her about who's

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the leader of the Dems, and she had no answer.

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Who's leading the Democratic Party. I'm just curious.

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Speaker 6: There are lots of leaders and it.

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Speaker 4: Was generally all leader of the Democratic Party, you know, like, oh,

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that's the leader.

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Speaker 1: Donator party who comes to mind.

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Speaker 6: I think there are a lot of I'm not going

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to go through names because then I'm going to leave

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somebody out and then I'm going to hear about it.

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I made the decision that I just, for now, I

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don't want to go back in the system.

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Speaker 5: I think it's broken.

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Speaker 6: And I always believed that as fragile as our democracy is,

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our systems would be strong enough to defend our most

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fundamental principles. And I think right now that they're not

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as strong as they need to be. And I just

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don't want it for now. I don't want to go

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back in the system. I want to I want to

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travel the country. I want to listen to people. I

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want to talk with people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so she's going to go travel and listen to

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people and talk to people. She's running obviously, she's going

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to try to figure out whether she can get any support.

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But this whole business about the fact she's did a

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word salad there about the values and all the other

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things that we care about, and she was going nowhere,

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she was she was just babbling, and then at the

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end she's just going to run around the country and

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and talk to people. This is the part that I

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just played. But this is this is the word salad.

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As she was trying to explain to Stephen Colbert what

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she wants to do.

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Speaker 6: Our systems would be strong enough to defend our most

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fundamental principles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she never mentioned what the fundamental principle was that

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she wanted to assist to defend. David Axelrod. He was

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not a big fan of Joe Biden. I mean, he

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was getting lots of agree from fellow Democrats because he

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came out and basically wanted Biden to step aside, and

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they yelled at him. It turned out he was right.

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Here's Axulrod's response to what Kamala is doing.

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Speaker 5: Kamala Harris has run for president twice in twenty twenty

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and in twenty twenty four, she came within a point

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and a half of the presidency, and running for governor

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of California, as powerful a position as it is, would

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be a step back. So it wasn't surprising to me.

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And it's clear that you read her statement that she

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is setting herself up to run.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's setting herself up to run for twenty twenty eight.

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But like he said, she ran in twenty twenty in

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twenty twenty four, she lost in both cases. Twenty twenty

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she was off to the races at a good start,

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but she was the first candidate to drop out of

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the Democratic primaries. In fact, never made it to the

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first one in Iowa. And then last night President Biden

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was in Chicago giving a speech to the National Bar

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Association and well, he I wish they wouldn't keep trotting

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him out. I know that presidents well, younger guys like

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Obama and George w they they were still young enough

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to go out and give high price speeches. That's what

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presidents do. But Biden is not physically well, and he

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was they had to help him. It took him forever

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when he was announced to step onto the stage and

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walk out to the microphone. He was very, very weak looking.

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Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 7: You need to face the heart series of this administration

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and has been to ease all the gays. We've made

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in my administration to ray history rather than make it

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to race fairness a quality to race just as itself.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't a surprise he was going to defend

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his administration. And he he told this group, which I

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had to look up the group, because I've never heard

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of the National Bar Association before. It is the country's

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oldest and largest national association of mostly African American attorneys, judges,

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law professors, and students. This was in Chicago, and he

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said basically that these are dark days. That's his take

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on it. Ben Dominic has maybe a different view of

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the speeches by the president and also Kamala Harris and

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what she did last night.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think that in one sense, you know, Kamala

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Harris kind of needed to do what she did, announcing,

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you know, that she was not going to be running

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for office as some people expected her too in California.

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I do think that sets up some real problems for

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them in the future. But the truth is that they

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are stepping on any kind of democratic attempt to move

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on from what was a disastrous administration, one that opened

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our border, that is, spent so much money that people

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never really saw come into their communities and neighborhoods, hiked

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inflation on everything, made everything more expensive, and really I

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think is going to be judged by historians as a

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failure with an unpopular president who on the way out,

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you know, had all of this different beef with all

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of the different leaders of the party. The Democrats need

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to move on from the Biden years, and Biden and

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Harris are simply not going to apparently help them with that. Instead,

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it's going to have to, I think, be something where

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they are hooked from the stage a little bit. You

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know that you got to pull them off as opposed

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to let it because they're not going.

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Speaker 1: To go along politely.

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Speaker 8: I don't think. Look, this is a guy who essentially

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his lifetime was spent in politics. We had a very

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very short career outside of it, and it's one of

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these things where he doesn't want that to be the

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last taste that's left in everybody's mouth in terms of

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his debate performance that everyone will obviously view as framing

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his entire legacy that he was this senile person who

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had issues with the autopen usage and couldn't keep track

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of things and everything along those lines. He's trying to

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repair that, but it's coming at the cost. I think

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of Democrats being able to move on from the Biden

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administration and say, hey, we're resetting. We are aware of

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the different critiques of that administration, of where it failed,

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of where it didn't connect with the American people and

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their priorities, and we're learning from that. And for all

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the Democrats who are trying to do that, Alyssa Slotkin

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is one example of that. For example, it's not something

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that's going to come easy when they keep reinserting themselves

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into the narratives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they have a problem. They're trying to figure

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out who their next leader will be. And Joe Biden

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and Kamala Harris won't step off the stage, so they've

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got speaking of politicians. The funeral for the New York

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City Police officer that was killed in the shooting on

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Park Avenue earlier this week. The funeral was yesterday, and

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it drives me crazy every time one of these things happens,

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and it happens in various communities around the country. But

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there's four people running for mayor of New York City,

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and the four candidates showed up at the funeral, and

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I just think it's wrong. They didn't know this officer,

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they don't know the family. They were going to the

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funeral to say, look at me, see how I am

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a proponent of police and I'm four police. Even Ma'm

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Donnie was there and he has over and over and

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we have plenty of video and tape of him promising

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to defund the police, that the police are the worst

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thing ever. And now he's sitting there going, well, actually,

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you know, well he has no answer, but he is

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clearly for defunding police, and now he says he's not,

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and he showed up at the funeral along with the

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other politicians, and it just makes me anchry. All right,

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let's get tariffs in here as well, because today is

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the day Tariff Day. Said August first, he was going

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to lower the boom on tariffs, and he's signed in

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executive order today to basically make most of them take

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effect after midnight on August seventh, to allow time for

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Customs and Border Protection to make the necessary changes to

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collect the levies when things come in to the United States.

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So he signed the directive just hours before the deadline.

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And there's a bunch of new tariff rules on copper,

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which has sent prices of copper sinking on the New

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York Commodities Exchange. Tariffs on steel, aluminum, copper, and cars

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are still very high. President is hoping his tariffs will

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protect US jobs and encourage companies to invest more in

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this country. Now, a lot of the deals that he

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has struck, Japan, South Korea, all these countries that are

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saying that they will invest hundreds of millions, if not billions,

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into the United States. That's all very vague, and I'm

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surprised that that was used as justification for whatever the

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tariff rate would be very low rates compared to other countries.

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Because they're going to invest hundreds of billions of dollars

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in the US. Who is going to invest that? Is

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the country of Japan going to invest in the US. No,

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The idea is that Japanese companies invest, but that's not

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a sure thing. It depends upon whether the companies feel

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comfortable in writing big checks to make investments. Some of

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the automakers, that makes sense because they'll just build more

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plants and build more cars here. But I'm looking at

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the biggest trade deals targeting the world. We've got a

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fifty percent tariff on copper for China. The tariff right

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is still at ten percent, and that has been extended

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out until I believe the fourteenth of this month. I

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don't know how they'll get it done, but that's two

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hundred and seventy eight billion dollar trade deficit with China.

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They're trying to solve that. The next biggest trade deficit

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is with Canada and Mexico forty one billion dollars, and

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all of that has been well, the products that are

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compliant with USMCA, they're not going to be affected by

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any tariffs. But otherwise twenty five percent and ten percent

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for Canadian energy and potash from March seventh versus twenty

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five percent before. So I guess, I don't know if

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it's twenty five or ten, but it's huge for Canada alone.

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billion dollar trade deficit with Canada and so that's still

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waiting to be resolved. Meanwhile, there's a thirty five percent

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tariff on everything coming from Canada that's not USMCA. European

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Union they struck that fifteen percent deal, Vietnam twenty percent

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deal for them, Japan fifteen percent deal. But again these

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go back to these this vague thing about company is

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going to invest hundreds of billions of dollars. India still

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at log heads twenty five percent tariff starting for them.

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See South Korea fifteen percent, Thailand nineteen percent. Switzerland. They

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are in shock in Switzerland because of a thirty nine

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percent tariff on Switzerland. We have a thirty seven billion

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dollar deficit with Switzerland. I presume that watches, so it

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goes on Taiwan twenty percent, Brazil forty percent, Indonesia nineteen percent,

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Israel fifteen percent. So tariffs supposedly went into effect today,

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but they're not going to be collected for another week.

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It will be August seventh when that money is actually

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collected at the gate when the products come into the US.

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The other big story today is the Corporation for Public Broadcast,

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the umbrella organization over PBS and NPR. They had their

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one and a half billion dollars taken away from them,

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and that was announced what a week, week and a

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half ago something like that. Today the Corporation for Public

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Broadcasting announced they're shutting down, They're closing shop, they're folding

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the tent. It obviously will be an impact on the

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kind of money that they send out to their NPR

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and PBS stations. The amount of money being clawed back

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from Corporation for Public Broadcasting is five hundred million dollars

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a year for the next three years, so it's one

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point five billion dollars and they said today that they

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will shut down next year, effectively ending their half century

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role as the backer of NPR and PBS. What's interesting

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about this is that you look at how much goes

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to NPR, something like one percent and fifteen percent goes

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to PBS. And what's amazing about this is how quickly

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they shut down. They just had the funding polled, and

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there's been a number of stories about PBS stations and

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NPR stations doing fundraisers and they've been fairly successful, not

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enough to replace the money that they're not going to get.

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But it seems to me that these are stations that

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are well if there's one in Seattle that that's basically

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run by the University of Washington, so why doesn't the

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University of Washington keep funding them?

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Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's plenty of places like that that are

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part of some bigger entity that could easily fill that

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copper with money. But they just threw the talent and

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this speed in which they said, oh we're not getting

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that money, Okay, we're shutting down. They're not making any

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effort to try to survive. Some of the stations are

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in various communities, and I suspect it'll probably be a

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number of them that will survive. But I was shocked

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by how fast they just said, Okay, we're not getting

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the Bundy. See you close the doors and goodbye. Well,

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let's go through some of the listener mail that came in.

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Start with Tim, Oh, yeah, he's a corporation for public broadcasting.

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We'll shut down. Yeah, he sent me the article about that.

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Thank you, Tim. He also said, funny how Fox News

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website today fails to mention any headline or any mention

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of Trump's sweeping reciprocal tariffs. Yeah, it's also one of

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those where what do you what do you say? He says.

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It's almost like it's bad news for him now, and

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it's sour subject for voters. We don't don't know what

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the sour news will be. We don't know what the

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impact of tariff will be. I've made it very clear

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I am not a terrriff fan, because generally they do

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cause inflation, and they cause product shortages. There's a number

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of bad things that happen. But it's not a guarantee.

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So we're going to have to wait and see the

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President is and I'll use the term radically redrawing the

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trade rules of the world, and usually when something radical happens,

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the whack a mole is what. There will be some

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reaction to this, and nobody knows what that reaction will be,

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how much of an impact good or bad, it will

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have on our economy. John McDermott sends me an email, says,

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prescriptions funny you brought up prescriptions yesterday. A few days ago,

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I volunteered to pick up some prescriptions for my bride.

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Young woman behind the counter said, lay two bags on

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the counter and asked if I was aware of the prices.

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I looked down, saw one hundred and ten dollars for one,

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one hundred and fifteen for the other. We have part

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D insurance, which I assume paid very little. I had

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a shock, looked on my face and said, oh my.

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The woman said, let me see if I can find

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a better price for you. I thought to myself, what

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kind of store has different prices for their merchandise depending

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on what. In the end, young woman said, much better

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price for you. New price fifty four dollars for both.

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She had to re enter the sale. She said in voila,

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what is going on here? I don't know. Have you

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seen those apps that give discounts on the spot. I

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don't remember the name of its an app. It's a

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yellow app. In any way, if you go to the

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pharmacist and you pull out your app, and apparently you

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can get an instant discount right on the spot. So

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that brings up the whole question about the way pharmaceutical

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products are priced. That's why the president is giving them.

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Yesterday we told you sent out a letter to all

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the major pharma companies talking we need to have the

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prices brought down to the same price that is most

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favored nation price that you sell to other countries around

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the world. So no, I don't know what's going on, John,

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but I'm glad you sent me an email about it.

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Dan Lithgow says, Russia, Russia, Russia, thanks for your podcast

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00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,559
seven point thirty one and shutting more light on the

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government corruption when it comes to the first Trump term

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and the Russia Russia Russia scam. It's good that these

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00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,760
things are coming out, but will anybody be held accountable? Dan,

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00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,880
I'm right there with you. I think it's great that

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this information is coming out. It makes you really stop

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and just not buy the propaganda. But as a a

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tweet the other day, I keep repeating said, I'll get

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erarned about this when charges are actually filed. So I

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have the same question mark hanging over this whole story

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as well. On Wall Street, today started off bad with

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the jobs report, and it got worse, and the and

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today the tariff day. So the Dow finished down five

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hundred and forty two to forty three thousand and five

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eighty eight, SMP down one hundred and one, Nasdaq down

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four hundred and seventy two. So at the two and

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a quarter percent drop, the price of gold shot up

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sixty seven dollars to thirty four to sixteen, and oil

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fell two dollars now down to sixty seven dollars for

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one barrel of oil. Thank you for coming by today.

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Hope you have a wonderful weekend. We'll be back Monday.

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I hope to see you then.

