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<v Speaker 1>In July of nineteen ninety nine, over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>three days, one man brutally killed his entire family, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he walked into his workplace an open fire on

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<v Speaker 1>those who worked with him, leaving even more people dead

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<v Speaker 1>before turning tail and running. What first looked like a

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<v Speaker 1>financial meltdown spiraled into something far more calculated, a sequence

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<v Speaker 1>of killings that began in silence at home, and as

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<v Speaker 1>investigators pulled back the layers the uncovered notes trying to

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<v Speaker 1>explain the madness, massive financial losses, and even eerie ties

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<v Speaker 1>that connected the killer to another double homicide. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Mark Barton, the Killer day Trader.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked

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<v Speaker 2>and Grim, a true crime podcasting.

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<v Speaker 3>The following.

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<v Speaker 2>Material more mai audience listener discretion.

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<v Speaker 1>You excited for the merch launch, I am. If you

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<v Speaker 1>guys don't know, we launched some pretty cool merch check

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<v Speaker 1>it out, just saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what we have it? We posted on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>We did, we did?

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<v Speaker 3>We find it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>We have three new designs. We brought some stuff out

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<v Speaker 1>of the vault, and one of the new designs is

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<v Speaker 1>actually only going to be available for one week and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's retired forever, so if you want it, you

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<v Speaker 1>only have a week just saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's the coveted jack Osher, which people think

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty awesome. We get a lot of requests actually

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<v Speaker 2>for jack O merch we do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jacko was pretty cool to start with, so

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<v Speaker 1>I can't blame them. Yeah, so yeah, but also, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>with this, it's coinciding with our five year anniversary of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, and we had a five year celebration the

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<v Speaker 1>other day with some like close friends and stuff. It

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<v Speaker 1>was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it went really well. It's crazy how you just

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<v Speaker 2>like plan events though, and then they're finally there and

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<v Speaker 2>then they're just gone, Like I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously that's just everything, but time is there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>like anticipation and excitement and then I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>tried really hard to be like as president as I

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<v Speaker 2>could in that moment. I did a mental milcause I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to want to remember this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good. I make sure I remember too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my heart was definitely filled after that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was it was awesome, yeah, and good

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<v Speaker 2>good for us, Like people don't celebrate things enough so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys should make sure you celebrate the small

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<v Speaker 1>things in your life, whether it's small, big, or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Just celebrate yourself. You deserve it. Yes, and one you

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<v Speaker 1>can actually do to help celebrate us if you want,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, no pressure, but you can join over on Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in fact even doing a giveaway for that JACKO

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<v Speaker 1>shirt plus some ones that have actually been retired. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>never be able to purchase those shirts again, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>given away over on Patreon, and some people can sign up,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Eric Brett, Howard did Marritt Egan, Jen Herschel,

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<v Speaker 1>and as well as a Dutch listener who just said

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<v Speaker 1>there are some wicked true crime stories, which I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>they're meaning like over like where they live, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think we might have to look into doing another

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<v Speaker 1>Dutch story here soon. Sure, I'm in so but thank

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<v Speaker 1>you guys so much for signing up. If you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are interested, the link is in the description of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think we should get right into the story. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it now. Most weekday mornings don't feel historic

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<v Speaker 1>in any sense. In fact, they tend to feel rather

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<v Speaker 1>small and not much different than the one that came

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<v Speaker 1>before it. You know what, may start with an alarm

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<v Speaker 1>that goes off, You hit snooze, maybe once or even twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the shower runs, coffee bruise, and the day begins

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<v Speaker 1>with no urgency, but it begins instead with more of habit.

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<v Speaker 1>You might drive the same route that you always drive.

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<v Speaker 1>You park in roughly the same spot you've parked in

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<v Speaker 1>for who knows how long. You walk through the doors

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<v Speaker 1>you walk through hundreds or even thousands of times before that.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, if someone asks you to describe the building

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<v Speaker 1>in detail, you probably easily could with your eyes closed,

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<v Speaker 1>just picturing it perfectly. Not because you've paid attention to

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<v Speaker 1>say all these things, but because the little things have

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<v Speaker 1>ingrained themselves in your mind over time. There might be

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<v Speaker 1>a bulletin board that you pass by with a poster

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<v Speaker 1>on it that's been there way too long. The stairs

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<v Speaker 1>you climb might have one step at the bottom that

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<v Speaker 1>one step just doesn't quite align with the rest, But

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, because inside that building it's just work.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an office with fluorescent lights maybe that hum softly overhead,

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<v Speaker 1>and computers blink awake, and someone down the hall might

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<v Speaker 1>laugh at something you can't quite hear. The breakroom even

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<v Speaker 1>still smells faintly of reheated leftovers from yesterday and stale

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<v Speaker 1>coffee grounds. The printer whirls awake and phones start to ring.

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<v Speaker 1>You greet the same people you did yesterday, the same

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<v Speaker 1>way you always have. You know, morning, how is your night?

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<v Speaker 1>Or happy insert day of the week. Here, you sit

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<v Speaker 1>at your desk, You log in and scroll through some emails.

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<v Speaker 1>Places like this have their own rhythm. You learn it

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<v Speaker 1>without realizing your learning it. It gets to a point

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<v Speaker 1>that even disagreements feel predictable. Someone might get frustrated, someone

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<v Speaker 1>might vent, someone shuts their door a little harder than usual.

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<v Speaker 1>But by the end of the day people gather their

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<v Speaker 1>things and go home. Whatever irritated them feels like it

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<v Speaker 1>gets folded neatly into tomorrow. And that's the unspoken rule.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter how stressful the job gets, no matter heavy

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<v Speaker 1>or how heavy the workload becomes, no matter how sharp

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<v Speaker 1>the words exchanged in the conference rooms were there's a

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<v Speaker 1>line that doesn't get cross. Work is contained. Sure, you

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<v Speaker 1>might decompress outside of it. You know, you leave and

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<v Speaker 1>you maybe vent or talk to things about spouse or

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<v Speaker 1>even messages with some work friends. But to say the least,

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<v Speaker 1>most of it stays there at work, and you assume

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<v Speaker 1>that people around you, no matter how quiet, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how intense, are operating within these same boundaries that you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't scan the room for threats, you don't calculate exits,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't measure the distance between yourself and the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you You know these people. You've shared coffee

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<v Speaker 1>with them, You've complained about management with them, you sat

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<v Speaker 1>beside them during long afternoons when time seems to slow down.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a part of the background in your life. Not strangers,

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<v Speaker 1>not dangerous, just coworkers. There are moments, though, where a

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<v Speaker 1>line can get crossed, long before anyone realizes it has been.

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<v Speaker 1>On one ordinary afternoon, in a building that looked like

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<v Speaker 1>every other building, no one knew they were standing at

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of disaster. And then when the door opened

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<v Speaker 1>in walked Mark Barton now Mark Orin Barton, was born

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<v Speaker 1>on April second, nineteen fifty five, in Germany. His father,

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<v Speaker 1>Truman Barton, was serving in the US Air Force at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and the family spent part of Mark's early

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<v Speaker 1>childhood overseas before eventually settling into Sumter, South Carolina. He

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<v Speaker 1>was an only child raised in a structured military household,

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<v Speaker 1>and from an early age he stood out as being

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<v Speaker 1>rather intelligent, particularly very strong at math and science, but

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<v Speaker 1>also he was rather emotionally distant. Classmates would later describe

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<v Speaker 1>him as quiet and socially isolated. He wasn't known to

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<v Speaker 1>be disruptive or aggressive in school. Instead, he kept to himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He excelled academically, especially in subjects like chemistry, but he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't exactly social to say the least. He didn't build

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<v Speaker 1>any strong friendships, and he was often disc decribed as

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<v Speaker 1>just being withdrawn. By his mid teens, Mark began experimenting

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<v Speaker 1>with drugs, particularly with hallucinogens, and what may have started

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<v Speaker 1>as experimentation, it quickly escalated into heavier use. According to

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<v Speaker 1>later accounts, He was even hospitalized multiple times after overdoses.

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<v Speaker 1>Now those close to him suggested that the drugs that

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<v Speaker 1>he used may have been an escape from feelings or alienation.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether that was the case or not, though it marked

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<v Speaker 1>the first documented period where life began to drift off

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<v Speaker 1>course for him. Now after high school, Mark attended Clemson

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<v Speaker 1>University before transferring to the University of South Carolina. During

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<v Speaker 1>this time, he continued down a negative path and was

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<v Speaker 1>even charged with burglary and was placed on probation. Around

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<v Speaker 1>the same period, Mark sought psychiatric treatment following what sources

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<v Speaker 1>described as a mental breakdown, went therapy and drug treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>and though there are references that discuss ongoing mental health struggles,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no formal long term diagnoses that was publicly confirmed.

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<v Speaker 1>What is clear, though, is that he had periods of

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<v Speaker 1>instability alternating with stretches that where he appeared to be

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<v Speaker 1>focused in high functioning, a sort of flip flop back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth. Despite all this, though, Mark still completed his degree,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was nineteen seventy nine when he graduated from

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<v Speaker 1>the University of South Carolina with a bachelor's degree in chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point in his life, there was no public

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<v Speaker 1>sign of violence that would later define his name. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a trained chemist from a military family, very academically capable.

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<v Speaker 1>He was socially reserved, sure, but there was also that

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<v Speaker 1>pass that was marked by drug use and some illegal trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>But there was nothing violent. That's the main takeaway now.

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<v Speaker 1>After graduating, he found work in chemistry related fields and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually relocated to Atlanta, where he met Deborah Spivy. The

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<v Speaker 1>two even married the same year after he graduated, beginning

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<v Speaker 1>what appeared to be a very conventional young marriage built

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<v Speaker 1>around work and family plans. From there, in Mark's career,

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<v Speaker 1>he worked a series of technical and sales jobs involving

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<v Speaker 1>chemical products and industrial compounds. Eventually the couple moved to Texarkana, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>where Mark helped start a manufacturing company called TLC Manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 1>By the late nineteen eighties, he had risen to president

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<v Speaker 1>of the company and was earning a very strong income

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<v Speaker 1>of around eighty six thousand dollars a year according to

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<v Speaker 1>later records. And remember this is even in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>H Yeah, so that's a good chunk of change, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. During this period, the couple had two children, a

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<v Speaker 1>son named Matthew who was born in nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and later a daughter named Michelle. Now. Accounts from later

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<v Speaker 1>investigations described Mark as increasingly controlled and prone to mood swings,

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<v Speaker 1>and soon the marriage began to deteriorate as tensions grew

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<v Speaker 1>inside the home. At work, things also began to unravel too.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety, Mark's relationship with TLC Manufacturing ended and

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<v Speaker 1>he later described it as an official firing meant to

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<v Speaker 1>protect the company's image. But what happened next drew some

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<v Speaker 1>serious attention. See, shortly after his departure, someone broke into

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<v Speaker 1>the office. They stole proprietary formulas and erased computer files. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as a result, police arrested Mark on burglary related charges. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>a detective involved at the time thought the break in

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<v Speaker 1>might actually have been less about theft and more about

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<v Speaker 1>hiding internal problems, possibly inventory discrepancies or other irregularities.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sorry, Mark was fired, correct, Okay, and then there

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<v Speaker 2>was a break and it was assumed that he was

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<v Speaker 2>the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark is arrested on burglary related charges regarding this incident, Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But I did say someone broke into the company, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean someone very specifically, because we don't actually know

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, Okay for sure, and I'll tell you exactly

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<v Speaker 1>why here. So that very same day, a company board

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<v Speaker 1>member contacted police to say that an agreement had been

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<v Speaker 1>reached with Mark and the charges were dropped. So there

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<v Speaker 1>was no conviction or anything. There was no confirmation that

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<v Speaker 1>technically it was Mark, but it was Mark, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, right, let go.

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<v Speaker 2>You say it, but it was Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>It was him, but they reached a personal agreement where

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<v Speaker 1>A hot second.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, following this fallout, Mark moved his family back to

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<v Speaker 1>According to his own statements, he changed his appearance during

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah also grew suspicious of this, and there were incidents

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<v Speaker 1>It was around this time that Mark took out a

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<v Speaker 2>In the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct. Yeah, so an idea. The idea of this, he claimed,

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<v Speaker 1>exact reason why we all take out any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>insurance policy, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But he claimed that idea came from Deborah herself. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>in the late summer of nineteen ninety three, over Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Day weekend, Mark's wife, Deborah Barton, traveled with her mother,

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<v Speaker 1>Eloise Spivy, to a lakeside trailer near Lake Weice in Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>and according to Mark, he stayed behind in Georgia with

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<v Speaker 1>went terribly wrong. Now, soon after Deborah Barton and her

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<v Speaker 1>mother Eloise went camping to that lake, they were soon

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<v Speaker 1>found dead inside the trailer. During this trip, both of

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries were severe, and the scene didn't look like

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<v Speaker 2>And they're camping right, exactly Gosh, that is not something

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<v Speaker 1>One investigator later described the scene as driven by anger

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<v Speaker 1>rather than theft, and almost immediately attention turned towards Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>and several factors raised suspicion, the fact that he had

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<v Speaker 1>recently taken out that large life insurance policy on Deborah

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<v Speaker 1>only weeks before the killing, in fact just yes, also

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that he was involved in an affair

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<v Speaker 1>with Leanne Lang, a relationship that friend said was becoming

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<v Speaker 1>rather serious, and investigators began to wonder if Deborah's death

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<v Speaker 1>might clear the way for his new life. Police questioned

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<v Speaker 1>Mark extensively, and according to later accounts, he appeared very

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<v Speaker 1>calm during interviews, sometimes almost even challenging against the investigators.

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<v Speaker 1>He insisted that he'd been in Atlanta during the murders

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<v Speaker 1>and denied any sort of involvement now, unfortunately without witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>placing him at the campground authorities were forced to rely

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<v Speaker 1>on forensic evidence alone. Now, at one point they managed

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<v Speaker 1>to search Mark's car and investigators used luminol, a chemical

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<v Speaker 1>that reacts with blood, of course makes it glow right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they received positive reactions on parts of the vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>including the seat belt and ignition area. Now, Mark claimed

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<v Speaker 1>he had no explanation at first, and later suggested maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the blood might have come from a cut on his

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<v Speaker 1>finger months earlier. And he also refused to provide a

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<v Speaker 1>blood sample or DNA sample of any sort to try

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<v Speaker 1>and do a comparison. He also just declined to take

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<v Speaker 1>a polygraph test too, So why would he give out anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, but that would be spots that after you

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<v Speaker 2>committed something like you're reaching for your seatbelt, you're starting

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<v Speaker 2>your vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, so you have blood in your hand. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's right though, technically speaking, Devil's advocate here, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a cut in your finger, blood will get in.

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<v Speaker 2>The same spot, I guess. But also I could see

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<v Speaker 2>those those places being missed when cleaning up.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Now, I don't exactly understand fully how this search

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<v Speaker 1>of his vehicle must have worked, because, like I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have a warrant to seize his vehicle because

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, they didn't have a warrant to clearly

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<v Speaker 1>get his DNA. He declined, and after this, additional testing

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<v Speaker 1>could not be completed because Mark apparently was still driving

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<v Speaker 1>it and he said he spilt soft drink in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>which destroyed any potential traces of what was what was there?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Okay, that seems too convenient.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather convenient. Yes, So I don't understand exactly the situation

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<v Speaker 1>on how they were able to look at the car

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. I guess he just gave them

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<v Speaker 1>permission and what they found was not strong enough to

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<v Speaker 1>get a warrant, and he was still driving it and

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<v Speaker 1>just destroyed what they had found.

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<v Speaker 2>He was confident in his cleanup job with the vehicle,

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<v Speaker 2>so he gave them.

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<v Speaker 1>That, I guess. So now, despite strong enough suspicion, the

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<v Speaker 1>case stalled. There were no fingerprints tying him to the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>no murder weapon, and no definitive forensic link. There was

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<v Speaker 1>just nothing. Investigators didn't have enough to arrest him or

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<v Speaker 1>even to charge him, and thus the murder of Deborah

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<v Speaker 1>Barton and her mother remained unsolved, and funny enough, within

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<v Speaker 1>a week of Deborah's death, Leanne was reportedly spending nights

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I freaking hate that. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>so pissed because that is like the mother of your kids. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't know. That is just never okay. Well

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<v Speaker 2>to take that from your children.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only that, but within months her divorce was finalized

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<v Speaker 1>and their relationship was now out in the open.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine the kids wanted much to do with

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<v Speaker 2>him after all misshit.

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<v Speaker 1>And then to take it one step further in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five, the two of them were then married. Cool

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<v Speaker 1>Now Mark did have his two kids, and essentially he

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<v Speaker 1>had a new family and they were settling into life

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<v Speaker 1>in Georgia. Mark continued to work as a chemical salesperson

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<v Speaker 1>and presented himself as a smart, successful professional. Neighbors said

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<v Speaker 1>he was friendly, playful with the kids, and sometimes even goofy,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who enjoyed playing video games with his son and

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<v Speaker 1>joking around that sort of thing. He simply seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a devoted father trying to move on after tragedy. In

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<v Speaker 1>their eyes, however, the darkness still lingered in him. Friends

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<v Speaker 1>and neighbors also described some mood swings and controlling behavior leanne.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, according to people who knew her, sometimes Eve

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<v Speaker 1>said that she even appeared uneasy around him. Some said

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<v Speaker 1>she seemed quieter when he was nearby, as if she

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<v Speaker 1>was very careful about what she said. Then, there were

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<v Speaker 1>also troubling incidents involving the kids. In the mid nineteen nineties, Michelle,

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<v Speaker 1>who was still very young his daughter, reportedly told a

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<v Speaker 1>daycare worker that her father had touched her inappropriately. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the allegation triggered evaluations and legal review, and a psychologist

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the custody process reportedly stated that Mark was

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<v Speaker 1>quote certainly capable of homicide.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I just despise this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Still because of how young she was and not understanding

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps what she was saying or what she was communicating.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no physical evidence, no charges were filed, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mark remained full custody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, got away with something else again, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And life just continued forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, this is so awkward and comfortable. What

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a douche canoe now. Meanwhile, the unresolved Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>case never fully disappeared. Law enforcement had never charged him,

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<v Speaker 1>but the suspicion was still there. The insurance pay from

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<v Speaker 1>Debor's death eventually resulted in a large settlement, giving Mark

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<v Speaker 1>access to significant funds, and part of that money was

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<v Speaker 1>placed in a trust for his children. But the payout

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<v Speaker 1>also gave him a lot of financial freedom, and eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>by the late nineteen nineties, Mark's focus well it shifted

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<v Speaker 1>away from traditional work and towards a rapidly growing new industry,

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<v Speaker 1>internet day trading. When the stock market was booming, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet was changing how people invested in the stocks,

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<v Speaker 1>and a new culture was growing around something that was

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<v Speaker 1>called day trading, where people buy and sell stocks rapidly,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes dozens or even hundreds of times a day, chasing

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<v Speaker 1>quick profits and turnarounds. Mark fell hard into this world.

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<v Speaker 1>He opened accounts at brokerage firms including Momentum Securities and

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<v Speaker 1>all Tech Investment Group in Atlanta's Buckhead Financial District. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>these offices, they were built for day traders. There was

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<v Speaker 1>rows of computer terminals, real time data feeds, and people

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<v Speaker 1>constantly watching the markets rise and fall. At first, Mark

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of fit in. He presented himself as an

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<v Speaker 1>claimed a substantial net worth, and coworkers later said he

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<v Speaker 1>seemed very confident, even enthusiastic about day trading now. Like

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<v Speaker 1>many day traders at the time, he focused heavily on

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<v Speaker 1>volatile internet stocks, the kind that could rise and crash

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<v Speaker 1>within minutes alone, and if you were on top of it,

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<v Speaker 1>you could make money. But the markets highs while they

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<v Speaker 1>were matched by equally brutal lows, and as such, by

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<v Speaker 1>the summer of nineteen ninety nine, Mark's losses were mounting fast.

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<v Speaker 1>According to brokerage officials, he had lost around one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and five thousand dollars in roughly seven weeks alone at Momentum,

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<v Speaker 1>which was only one of the brokerage firms he was at.

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<v Speaker 1>Some reports even suggested his total losses over the previous

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<v Speaker 1>The losses triggered something else, pressure from the firms themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So day trading often involves what they call margin accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>especially they're sorry essentially borrowed money used to increase buying power.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just kind of like borrowing from a bank situation.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the money, but it's technically not yours. And

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<v Speaker 1>when stocks fall sharply brokerage. They issue margin calls, basically

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<v Speaker 1>demanding traders to posit more money to cover than those losses.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Mark actually began struggling to meet those demands. His

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<v Speaker 1>account at Momentum was reportedly restricted after he failed to

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<v Speaker 1>cover a margin call. Then, trying to regain access, Mark

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a fifty thousand dollars check to the firm, but

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<v Speaker 1>the check bounced, and then Momentum denied him trading privileges,

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<v Speaker 1>at least temporarily. For someone already under intense financial and

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<v Speaker 1>emotional st the restriction was a major blow. People later

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<v Speaker 1>described Mark as increasingly anxious and angry during this period,

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<v Speaker 1>and at home arguments with Leanne reportedly became more frequent too,

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<v Speaker 1>especially over money. Mark still tried to protect the normalcy

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<v Speaker 1>in his life though how people saw him. He kept

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<v Speaker 1>buying gifts for his children, spending time with them, acting

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<v Speaker 1>like a regular suburban father, But those financial losses were

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<v Speaker 1>just piling up, and tensions at home were growing right

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<v Speaker 1>along with it. Then, in the early hours of Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>July twenty seventh, while Leanne slept in her Stockbridge apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>he attacked her with a hammer. The assault was sudden

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<v Speaker 1>and brutal, as she was struck repeatedly in the face

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<v Speaker 1>and head and died right there in bed where she laid. Afterward,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark dragged her out of bed and hid her body

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<v Speaker 1>in the master bedroom closet, covering her with a blanket

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<v Speaker 1>and placing boxes and clothes around it to conceal. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he cleaned up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I okay, I was just like sitting here kind

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<v Speaker 2>of chilling, and I was not expecting.

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<v Speaker 1>That it was a fast turn. And right after he

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<v Speaker 1>killed her and just kind of like hidden cleaned up

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<v Speaker 1>the crime scene. He then shifted right back into just

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<v Speaker 1>regular day routine like nothing happened at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy. He is just a fricking monster and a hat

427
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<v Speaker 2>he is. These wives of his are just completely disposable

428
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<v Speaker 2>basically to him. They are because like, what did she

429
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<v Speaker 2>even do? He's the one that has a freaking problem

430
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<v Speaker 2>here and is spending all their money exactly like she,

431
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<v Speaker 2>And of course she's going to be concerned about this.

432
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's the volatile one. He's the one who's flying off,

433
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<v Speaker 1>he's one losing the money. It's all coming down to him,

434
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<v Speaker 1>and he's placing that blame onto other people.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she probably really realized that the grass wasn't

436
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<v Speaker 2>greener when she left her husband and married him because

437
00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:02.079
<v Speaker 2>he's terrible.

438
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<v Speaker 1>Well, he definitely is, that's to say the least. She

439
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:07.880
<v Speaker 1>was probably on an ice manicured lawn and left for

440
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:09.799
<v Speaker 1>fucking swamp water and moss.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, well, because well, I mean when they

442
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:15.920
<v Speaker 2>were having them fair, everything was probably hunky dory, right,

443
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<v Speaker 2>and then yeah, it really turns quite bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I just realized my analogy earlier. I called him a

445
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<v Speaker 1>douche canoe and he's like, oh yeah, his lawn isn't

446
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>actually grass, it's just swamp water and moss. So I

447
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<v Speaker 1>just picture him in a canoe in a swamp, and

448
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<v Speaker 1>it just says, douche along the side, riding his little

449
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<v Speaker 1>douche canoe in a swamp.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that's a good, good good one there.

451
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<v Speaker 1>Good visual. Now. Over the next day, though he did

452
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<v Speaker 1>spend time with his children, he ran errands and kept

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<v Speaker 1>to any sort of normal activity. Reports indicated he even

454
00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:55.079
<v Speaker 1>took his son Matthew to scouts, all while Leanne's body

455
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>remained hidden in that apartment closet. Then, on the night

456
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<v Speaker 1>of Wednesday, July twenty eighth, Mark did something else he

457
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>turned on his kids. He later claimed that he believed

458
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>he was sparing them from future suffering, but that is

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00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:15.319
<v Speaker 1>just his twisted rationalization of what's in his mind, basically

460
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>of a monster's mind. In reality, he put them through

461
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>something unimaginable. He attacked both the children with the very

462
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>same hammer that he used on his well wife while

463
00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 1>they were asleep too. Mark then placed their bodies face

464
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>down in a full bathtub to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 1>worked out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Ben, what the frick is happening here?

467
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>And once he knew they were in fact dead, he

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<v Speaker 1>then took the time to carefully wash and dry his children,

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00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.920
<v Speaker 1>to dress them, and then he placed them in their beds,

470
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<v Speaker 1>wrapping them in blankets so only their face.

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<v Speaker 2>Was showing Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew was positioned with his game boy nearby, which he

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<v Speaker 1>loved to play, and Michelle was left with a teddy

474
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Bear nearby. The scene was arranged to look peaceful, almost

475
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:08.880
<v Speaker 1>like they were sleeping, I guess, and Mark also wrote notes.

476
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Handwritten messages were placed on each victim. On Matthew's body,

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<v Speaker 1>he left a note asking that someone take care of

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<v Speaker 1>his son, and a similar note was left with Michelle,

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00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.039
<v Speaker 1>describing her as his sweetheart and asking her to be

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00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>cared for. Another handwritten note was in place with Leanne

481
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.559
<v Speaker 1>to where she laid in the closet still, and he

482
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>called her his precious love. In the living room, Mark

483
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>left a longer typed out letter printed from a computer,

484
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 1>and by the morning of July twenty ninth, things began

485
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>quietly inside that Stockbridge apartment. The bodies of Mark's wife

486
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 1>and children remained there, right where he had placed them,

487
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>and Mark began moving through that morning with a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of purpose. Mark left his apartment and then made several

489
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:01.799
<v Speaker 1>deliberate stops through ti him, one of which was his

490
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:04.839
<v Speaker 1>attorney's office, where he reportedly made some changes to his will.

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00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Then he drove towards Atlanta's financial district, carrying two handguns

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00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:13.519
<v Speaker 1>with them a nine millimeter any forty five caliber pistol,

493
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:18.599
<v Speaker 1>along with, of course, plenty of ammunition. People who encountered

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00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>him that morning described nothing unusual about his appearance. He

495
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:24.839
<v Speaker 1>wore casual clothes and behaved normally. When he arrived at

496
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Momentum Securities around early afternoon, he walked in just like

497
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>any other day trader did. That Thursday, the market itself

498
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>was down. It was another bad day for traders, but

499
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 1>employees they recognized him. They chatted casually with him, and

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00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>he did so back with other staff members and other

501
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>traders and smiling, making small talk, all while waiting for management.

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00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Some believed he was just there to discuss money or

503
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:54.319
<v Speaker 1>try and resolve his issues with his account. He appeared calm,

504
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>even friendly, so no one thought anything of it. None

505
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>of them knew that he had just murdered his family

506
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 1>ash and for roughly twenty minutes, Mark waited. The trading

507
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>floor buzzed with the usual energy of people watching the markets,

508
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>chasing gains and reacting to losses. Shortly after three pm

509
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<v Speaker 1>on July twenty ninth, nineteen ninety nine, the atmosphere inside

510
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Momentum Securities was typical. Terminals glowed with live market data.

511
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Traders watched those screens, but Mark had been inside for

512
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<v Speaker 1>about twenty minutes, and he was apparently waiting, but there

513
00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>was no raised voices or visible rage with him. But

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00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, without any clear sign, he just

515
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>reached for his weapons. Witnesses later said Mark pulled out

516
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<v Speaker 1>both guns, one in each hand, and he reportedly smiled.

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<v Speaker 1>According to multiple accounts he made a chilling remark before firing,

518
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 1>and now variations of the quote have been reported, but

519
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.319
<v Speaker 1>the message was the same. He essentially said the trading

520
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 1>day was bad and it was about to get worse,

521
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 1>and then he opened fire on the room. The first

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00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:11.039
<v Speaker 1>shots were close ranged and victims were struck almost immediately.

523
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>The confined office space amplified that sounds of the gun

524
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>turning the trading room floor into chaos within seconds. People

525
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 1>dove under desks, others ran towards exits, and some were

526
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 1>hit while trying to escape. But Mark he didn't flinch.

527
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.839
<v Speaker 1>He simply moved through the space, pulling the trigger repeatedly

528
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>on both weapons. Four people were ultimately killed at momentum.

529
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Others were wounded, some critically, and survivors later described blood

530
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.359
<v Speaker 1>being on desks, on walls, and all over computer screens,

531
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:49.359
<v Speaker 1>and the scene unfolded quickly but felt endless to those inside.

532
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Panics spread beyond that immediate office, as employees in nearby

533
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>suites heard the shots too, emergencies. They had calls flooding

534
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>in through nine on one dispatchers, and within minutes police

535
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>were racing towards the Pimont Center, where the shooting was unfolding,

536
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>but Mark didn't stay there. Before officers could fully lock

537
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:13.279
<v Speaker 1>down the building he had left. Some reports suggested he

538
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>exited calmly, blending in with the fleeing employees. Others recall

539
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>seeing a man moving quickly away from the scene, but

540
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>either way, just across the street, just steps away, stood

541
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>another brokerage, where Mark also traded all Tech investment group.

542
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, and he was headed straight for it.

543
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit.

544
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.279
<v Speaker 1>The people inside had no idea that a mass shooting

545
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>had just occurred moments earlier, and Mark entered here calmly,

546
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>just as he did the last place. Witnesses later said

547
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>he appeared relaxed and even friendly. He greeted staff, walked

548
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>towards the manager's office as if he were just simply

549
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>arriving for a routine meeting.

550
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Nothing was off about him. Notice again, just appeared completely.

551
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Fine, exactly Oh, Mark Sproke spoke briefly with the managers

552
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and the staff, and then within minutes, while talking to them,

553
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 1>he produced those same two weapons. Managers and a secretary

554
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 1>were hit with bullets at close range almost immediately, and

555
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>survivors later described confusion, with people struggling to understand what

556
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.279
<v Speaker 1>was happening, and before anyone could react, Mark moved from

557
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:23.319
<v Speaker 1>that office with the managers into the main trading floor room,

558
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and he began firing across that open room, targeting people

559
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 1>as they dove or tried to hide and run. Some

560
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>were struck while attempting to reach exits. Other drop behind

561
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 1>desks or crawls crawling across the floor, and they were

562
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>hit and trying to find any sort of cover. It

563
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>was just chaos, and he was seeing anyone and firing indiscriminately.

564
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Witnesses recalled him moving steadily through that space, continuing to

565
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.599
<v Speaker 1>shoot as he went. Several victims died where they fell,

566
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and others were critically wounded but thankfully survived. Now. During

567
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:59.759
<v Speaker 1>the attack, Mark reportedly made another chilling statement, something to

568
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 1>the fact of hoping he was not ruining anyone's trading day.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, you are, you freaking idiot right now.

570
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 1>The shooting lasted only minutes, but left behind devastating damage.

571
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.559
<v Speaker 1>By the time the gunfire stopped, five more people were

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00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 1>dead and many more were injured. Yet, even as emergency

573
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 1>calls came in, confusion between dispatchers and responding officers delayed

574
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 1>the full realization that a second crime scene existed just

575
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>across the street, and with that bit of confusion, left

576
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>a window and again Mark walked out, disappearing into the

577
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>surrounding areas.

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00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, I feel like at this point he's

579
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:45.159
<v Speaker 2>already killed fourteen people if my count is correct, Like

580
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>that is just bonkers.

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00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot now. Police initially responded to what they

582
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.039
<v Speaker 1>believed was a single active shooting, but soon it became

583
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>clear that there was a second one across the street.

584
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>We have momentum securities he did first, and then All

585
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Tech Investment Group second, and that reallyzation that there was

586
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>a second one hit quickly and this incident was it

587
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>was not contained clearly because the shooter was elsewhere and

588
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>then also gone. They had two scenes, no shooter in sight.

589
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Officers flooded the Piedmont Center complex, parking cars and control

590
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>cars all over to try and block entrances. Swat teams

591
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>moved floor by floor, clearing offices, escorting terrified employees out

592
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:29.159
<v Speaker 1>of the buildings. Helicopters circled overhead ambulances lined the street

593
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>as paramedics rushed the wounded to nearby hospitals and inside

594
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the buildings, automatic locking systems had actually even been engaged,

595
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>which trapped some employees in the office. Many witnesses called

596
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>local radio stations and television stations, describing gunfire, screams, and

597
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>all the confusion surrounding it. Blood covered the desks and

598
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the floors, and police made their way through just trying

599
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 1>to find these survivors and then escorting them out. They

600
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>even had to make sure they had their hands raised,

601
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:01.079
<v Speaker 1>unsure if the shooter was still in there. So they're saying,

602
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.559
<v Speaker 1>hands up, to make sure that you can appear like

603
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you're not unarmed, you're not a police officer, just in

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00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the odd chance that he's waiting.

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00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 2>This would just I can't even imagine the mass confusion,

606
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:14.679
<v Speaker 2>confusion that's going on here.

607
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Exactly that what's chaos. It's confusion. And I don't know

608
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 1>if you kind of caught on. I'm rambling my sentences here.

609
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to push that confusion fan into you. Yeah,

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00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I hope it's working.

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00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>It would just yeah, it is working. It's just very unsettling.

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00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Now. Within roughly two hours, police identified the suspect as

613
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>forty four year old Mark Barton, and his name was

614
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:38.079
<v Speaker 1>released publicly, along with details of his appearance and the

615
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 1>vehicle he was believed to be driving, which was a van.

616
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:46.519
<v Speaker 1>Authorities quickly expanded the search perimeter beyond Buckhead into Cobb

617
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>County and surrounding suburbs were alerted to officers, canvas, wooded areas,

618
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:56.159
<v Speaker 1>and parking structures, and because Mark reportedly held a pilot's license,

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00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>airports were notified in case he attempted to flee by air.

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00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:04.159
<v Speaker 1>As well. As the afternoon stretched into evening, fear spread

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<v Speaker 1>across the metro area. News outlets interpreted the programming with

622
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.519
<v Speaker 1>live coverage, and the city's mayor, even Bill Campbell. He

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00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 1>described the scene inside the office as an awful lot

624
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.320
<v Speaker 1>of blood everywhere, and he called it a long, unspeakable day.

625
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:21.599
<v Speaker 2>No kidding.

626
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 1>But for several hours Mark remained missing. Sightings were reported

627
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>across the region. One account described a man matching his

628
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 1>description at a shopping center in Kenshaw, where he allegedly

629
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<v Speaker 1>threatened a young girl before fleeing again. Whether every sighting

630
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>was accurate remained unclear, but the tension was very real

631
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.039
<v Speaker 1>and now police were still looking for him. They were

632
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:48.760
<v Speaker 1>also dealing with something else while this was happening. Another

633
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 1>investigation was quietly unfolding about twenty miles away in Stockbridge, Georgia. Now,

634
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:59.119
<v Speaker 1>at first, this other investigation had nothing to do with

635
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the Masacre. Down Town. Apartment management at Bristol Green Complex

636
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>had simply reported that the rent was late and something

637
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>felt off with one of their units. At around three

638
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>point twenty three pm, less than half an hour after

639
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the first shots were fired in Atlanta, a Henry County

640
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Police officer entered the apartment with assistants from the property manager.

641
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 1>When the officer entered, they found something that was very

642
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 1>disturbing that changed the direction of the entire case. They

643
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>found the body of two children that were discovered first,

644
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>eleven year old Matthew Barton and his younger sister, Michelle,

645
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>who were lying in their beds, carefully positioned wrapped in

646
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 1>blankets with their faces exposed, each with a handwritten note.

647
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>As officers continued to search the apartment, they soon found

648
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>a third body, Mark Barton's wife, Leanne. She was located

649
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>in the master bedroom closet, hidden beneath a blanket, also

650
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 1>with a handwritten note. In the living room, officers found

651
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the last letter, addressed to whom it may concern. The

652
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>note was timestamped early that morning, July twenty ninth, at

653
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.639
<v Speaker 1>six thirty eight am. In it, Mark described killing his

654
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 1>wife first and blamed her for his downfall. Then he

655
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>said he killed his children next the next night, and

656
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:24.280
<v Speaker 1>he did so to spare them the pain. He claimed

657
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>he'd use a hammer while they slept, then placed some

658
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.079
<v Speaker 1>face down the bathtub to ensure they were dead, and

659
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Speaker 1>he also wrote that he intended to kill quote as

660
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:38.280
<v Speaker 1>many of the people that greedily sought my destruction end quote.

661
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>The note also referenced the unsolved nineteen ninety three murder

662
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 1>of his first wife and her mother. Mark denied responsibility

663
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.519
<v Speaker 1>for those deaths, insisting that there was quote no reason

664
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:54.800
<v Speaker 1>to lie now end quote, even though he acknowledged the

665
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 1>similarities in the killings.

666
00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, Okay, so he's saying he didn't do them.

667
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>He says he does he did not do them.

668
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Do you believe that?

669
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I do not believe that.

670
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that but at that point it's kind of like,

671
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:13.920
<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't you just say but yeah, it's kind of odd.

672
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:17.599
<v Speaker 1>It is odd. I would expect him to perhaps confess,

673
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>but for whatever reason, he doesn't want his name tied

674
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:23.639
<v Speaker 1>to that legacy. If he did do it. I do

675
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:25.639
<v Speaker 1>believe he did it. Who else would have done it?

676
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>There was no like why, Yeah, it was clearly targeted.

677
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>There was no burglar or robbery or anything associated with it.

678
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:35.840
<v Speaker 1>The killings happened very similarly, Like who else would have

679
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>done it? Why? What's the motivation here?

680
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.159
<v Speaker 2>No, it to one hundred percent makes sense that it

681
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.360
<v Speaker 2>was him. But yeah, it just is odd that he

682
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't put it in the letter. Yeah, after he's killed

683
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:46.639
<v Speaker 2>how many other people that he's not just going to

684
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:48.079
<v Speaker 2>fucking admit to that one too?

685
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Yeah, it's it's weird. But anyways, Now investigators also

686
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:57.400
<v Speaker 1>immediately recognize the similarities between the case, but that was

687
00:40:57.400 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>about all they could do. The language in the letter

688
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:03.519
<v Speaker 1>shi between apology and justification, and for investigators, the discovery

689
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>at the apartment completely reframed the unfolding of the events

690
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>within Atlanta. He had first appeared to be just doing

691
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:14.519
<v Speaker 1>a workplace shooting driven well not just, but it appeared

692
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:17.679
<v Speaker 1>to be an isolated incident with a workplace, you know,

693
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>driven by financial stress. But it was now clearly part

694
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:26.360
<v Speaker 1>of a much larger and more personal killing spree. Mark

695
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:29.519
<v Speaker 1>had he killed his wife days earlier. He then murdered

696
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:33.000
<v Speaker 1>his children, and then he just went out and continued

697
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to mow down people that he believed did him wrong.

698
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't financial, it was anger, it was personal. It

699
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 1>was a vendetta. Sure that might be financing there in

700
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:50.039
<v Speaker 1>that reason, but it was personally motivated. News of the

701
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:54.119
<v Speaker 1>discovery spread quickly through law enforcement channels, and by late afternoon,

702
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:59.320
<v Speaker 1>while Atlanta was already in a massive man hunt, witnesses

703
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>began reporting sightings, and hours passed still with no confirmation

704
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:08.559
<v Speaker 1>of where Mark was. Then, around seven forty pm, security

705
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 1>personnel at a shopping mall in Kennesas spotted a unattended

706
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>van matching the description that was put out to the public.

707
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 1>Almost simultaneously, a woman in a parking lot reported a frightened,

708
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>frightening encounter with a man carrying a black bag, who

709
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.760
<v Speaker 1>warned her not to scream or run. Another witness recognized

710
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Mark from television coverage and called nine one one two,

711
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:34.760
<v Speaker 1>providing police with the van's location and direction of travel.

712
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Cobb County officers quickly picked up the trail, and one officer,

713
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 1>hughle Clements, spotted the van on Interstate seventy five and

714
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>began following at distance, waiting for backup. Then, at approximately

715
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>seven to fifty pm, Mark exited the interstate onto Georgia

716
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Highway ninety two and pulled into a gas station in Ackworth.

717
00:42:56.960 --> 00:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Patrol cars moved in on him almost immediately for there,

718
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:04.960
<v Speaker 1>boxing the van in from multiple angles. Officers exited the

719
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.079
<v Speaker 1>vehicles with guns drawn pointed at the van, shouted commands

720
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:11.679
<v Speaker 1>from Mark to step out, but before they could reach

721
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:15.400
<v Speaker 1>him and do anything, Mark raised a handgun inside the

722
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.559
<v Speaker 1>van and a muffled shot rang out. Then his body

723
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:25.079
<v Speaker 1>slumped forward against the steering wheel. It was roughly seven

724
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:30.280
<v Speaker 1>point fifty five pm when officers cautiously approached the vehicle.

725
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure if he was still alive or if there

726
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 1>was additional threats inside, but moments later the danger was

727
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.599
<v Speaker 1>confirmed to be over. Mark Barton was dead from a

728
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 1>self inflicted gunshot wound to the head.

729
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 2>This is how I was expecting this to end.

730
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

731
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I was like, there's no way he's gonna turn himself

732
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 2>in or let himself go to jail or whatever.

733
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I actually I did leave one bit of information

734
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.039
<v Speaker 1>note in the note that he left behind. He did

735
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>say he was going to.

736
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 2>See oh okay.

737
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.800
<v Speaker 1>So for for story reasons, I left that out, but

738
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you know that now.

739
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just have to say too, not that

740
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 2>any of the deaths made sense, but it really doesn't

741
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.599
<v Speaker 2>make sense that he needed to kill his kids like

742
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 2>that just they would have been I mean, of course

743
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.320
<v Speaker 2>they would have like a lot of trauma, and but

744
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 2>they were young and stuff, right, and they would they

745
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:29.559
<v Speaker 2>would be able to get over that and still live

746
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 2>a life one hundred percent, right, And so that just

747
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:33.519
<v Speaker 2>makes no sense.

748
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>They're way better off than him murdering them with a

749
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>hammer while they're in.

750
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Beds exactly like they would have been fine to just

751
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 2>move on with their life. So he is just a

752
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:45.239
<v Speaker 2>piece of work here, Oh.

753
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he is. Now. The manhunt that had paralyzed Atlanta

754
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>for hours had ended in that single moment. There was

755
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:56.360
<v Speaker 1>going to be no arrests or interrogation, and also no trial.

756
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:01.039
<v Speaker 1>The only explanations investigators had were in the notes left

757
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:04.559
<v Speaker 1>behind in that Stockbridge apartment and the trail of devastation

758
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that he created across the city. Over the course of

759
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:12.159
<v Speaker 1>three days, Mark Barton had killed twelve people, his wife,

760
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.360
<v Speaker 1>his two children, and nine men and women inside the

761
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta brokerage firms. More than a dozen were also wounded,

762
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:24.079
<v Speaker 1>many with life altering injuries, and it was immediately described

763
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:27.119
<v Speaker 1>as one of the deadliest mass killings in Georgia's history.

764
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>At momentum Securities, four people were killed, including traders and

765
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>staff who'd been working in normal afternoon when Mark arrived

766
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>at Altech. Five more lost their lives after Mark crossed

767
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.159
<v Speaker 1>the street and opened fire inside that building. Hospitals across

768
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta had quickly filled with victims, and emergency crews had

769
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:50.800
<v Speaker 1>prepared for multiple casualties, but many said that they had

770
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 1>never seen anything like this volume of wounded arriving from

771
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 1>an office or a corporate setting all at once, and

772
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:00.599
<v Speaker 1>as news spread that Mark's wife and child had been

773
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:05.000
<v Speaker 1>found murdered in Stockbridge, the emotional impact only deepened from there.

774
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:10.360
<v Speaker 1>City officials tried to steady the shocked public. Office workers

775
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 1>across Buckhead were evacuated or locked down for hours, unsure

776
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.440
<v Speaker 1>whether the shooter was even still nearby it all, and

777
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:20.559
<v Speaker 1>families of the dead began speaking publicly In the days

778
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that followed. Some struggled to understand why their loved ones

779
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>had been targeted at all, and investigators later even said

780
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that there was no clear evidence that Mark selected specific

781
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 1>victims inside the office, although some reports suggested a few

782
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.920
<v Speaker 1>had previously lent him money or were connected to his

783
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:41.360
<v Speaker 1>trading losses. Whether he intended to target individuals or simply

784
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:44.559
<v Speaker 1>anyone at all who was in front of them, while

785
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it remains uncertain.

786
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:49.480
<v Speaker 2>And they did absolutely nothing wrong, this was all on him,

787
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:51.800
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent. He was the one that fucked up

788
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 2>his life completely with this.

789
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:55.079
<v Speaker 1>He was the one who did the stock trading. He

790
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>was the one who tried to invest. Yeah, he was

791
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.719
<v Speaker 1>the one who gained money, who lost money. It was

792
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:04.079
<v Speaker 1>all him. In fact, many of those people, I'm sure

793
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.400
<v Speaker 1>are losing money just like him. Many of those people

794
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.079
<v Speaker 1>did not go off and blame other people. Yeah, but

795
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:12.599
<v Speaker 1>he did.

796
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:16.679
<v Speaker 2>It's I'm honestly a little surprised that it isn't more

797
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:20.239
<v Speaker 2>people that he ended up killing at these places. Really,

798
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 2>if you know, he had like two guns, he's just

799
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.079
<v Speaker 2>like opening fire. But then you did say, like he

800
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 2>is also making people suffer for lifelong with lifelong injuries.

801
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, many of the survivors struggled with like not only injuries,

802
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.039
<v Speaker 1>but also just the trauma of what they've experienced.

803
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, Yeah.

804
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Now, some return to the office only briefly to gather

805
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:45.840
<v Speaker 1>belongings before spaces were permanently changed or closed. Memorials appeared

806
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 1>outside the buildings with flowers, notes, and candles left by

807
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.280
<v Speaker 1>coworkers and strangers alike. By the end of that week,

808
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 1>investigators had pieced together the basic timeline, but attention quickly

809
00:47:56.559 --> 00:48:00.519
<v Speaker 1>shifted backwards. The discovery that Mark Barton had won being

810
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:05.199
<v Speaker 1>the prime suspect in another double homicide immediately changed how

811
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:09.159
<v Speaker 1>people understood that the Atlanta shootings. Suddenly, the story was

812
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>no longer about a financial collapse and a workplace shooting.

813
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.119
<v Speaker 1>It was also about a mystery that had lingered unresolved

814
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:19.039
<v Speaker 1>for six years prior to that. In September of nineteen

815
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:23.559
<v Speaker 1>ninety three, Mark's first wife, Deborah Spivy Barton, and her mother,

816
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Eloise Bivvy were found brutally killed inside a camping ground

817
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>inside a trailer near Lake Weese in northeastern Alabama. They

818
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>traveled there for a holiday weekend and then they were

819
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:38.599
<v Speaker 1>just killed violently with what appeared to be a heavy

820
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 1>or sharp object. And to top it off, the crime

821
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:44.760
<v Speaker 1>scene showed no signs of force entree, leading police to

822
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:48.079
<v Speaker 1>believe the victims likely knew whoever entered the trailer, and

823
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:52.239
<v Speaker 1>from the beginning, Mark drew attention from investigators. Just weeks before,

824
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:56.039
<v Speaker 1>of course, there was the large life insurance policy reportedly

825
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 1>six hundred thousand dollars, money that would ultimately lead to

826
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:03.199
<v Speaker 1>his day trade, which would ultimately lead to more killings.

827
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:06.599
<v Speaker 1>And at that same time his marriage was deteriorating. He

828
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:09.079
<v Speaker 1>was involved in an affair with LeeAnne, the woman he

829
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>would later marry and later kill, but Mark denied any

830
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:18.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of involvement in that case, even in his suicide

831
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:20.360
<v Speaker 1>note he left behind, he denied it, even though there

832
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>are so many connections between each one. Investigators in Alabama

833
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>reviewed the old files again after Mark's death, but without

834
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 1>a living suspect to question, without evidence, there was nothing

835
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 1>they could do. The case remained open but unresolved, leaving

836
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>families with no legal closure, and officially speaking, those two

837
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:46.760
<v Speaker 1>deaths are not on Mark's record.

838
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well how could they be? Right?

839
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but if you do count them, you were right.

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<v Speaker 1>That is fourteen dead to his name.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, that is so man, so many deaths.

842
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. For those trying to understand the Atlanta massacre of

843
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the Alabama case, cast a very long shadow. Some believe

844
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<v Speaker 1>that if charges had been filed years earlier, the later

845
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>killings might never have happened. Others argued that hindsight made

846
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 1>connection a lot easier to see than they had been

847
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:20.639
<v Speaker 1>in real time. But either way, the reopen discussion forced investigators, journalists,

848
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:24.199
<v Speaker 1>and public to all reconsider Mark's history not as a

849
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:26.880
<v Speaker 1>sudden break from normal life, but possibly a part of

850
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:32.559
<v Speaker 1>a much larger and darker pattern. Now in Atlanta, the

851
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 1>massacre left a very lasting mark. The victim's names had

852
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<v Speaker 1>become part of the city's history, remember not as statistics,

853
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>but as co workers, friends, and family members who lived

854
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:48.039
<v Speaker 1>well and worked during an ordinary day that turn not

855
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:51.679
<v Speaker 1>so ordinary, and the legacy of the case ultimately lies

856
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>in its complexity. It was a family tragedy, a workplace massacre,

857
00:50:56.599 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and a financial collapse, all wrapped up in a story

858
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:03.559
<v Speaker 1>shadow by unreserve, suspicion from years earlier, and a hidden

859
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:08.400
<v Speaker 1>darkness deep inside someone. There was no single explanation that

860
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>explained everything, no simple motive that could tie everything neatly up.

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00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:18.639
<v Speaker 1>What remained in this timeline that reads almost unreal in hindsight,

862
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.199
<v Speaker 1>is a man who appeared to be normal, a rapid

863
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 1>descent behind everyday life and a city forced to piece

864
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>together the truth after the fact. The investigation ended when

865
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Mark turned that gun on himself and pulled the trigger

866
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:36.960
<v Speaker 1>at that gas station. But the questions it all raised, well,

867
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:42.159
<v Speaker 1>it'll never go away, and that's a story of Mark Barton,

868
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the killer day trader.

869
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:49.159
<v Speaker 2>What a selfish shun of a bitch.

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00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a damn good way of putting it. I mean,

871
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:54.159
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to put things like this into words, but

872
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:55.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a damn good start.

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00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Gosh. We had to pause at one point and I

874
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, what the fuck? He just keeps killing people?

875
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:02.320
<v Speaker 2>What is happening here?

876
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he went on a literal killing zone.

877
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I for some reason, I was like, did

878
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I miss something in the intro because I was shocked

879
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:12.880
<v Speaker 2>by almost all of these. I was just sitting here

880
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.719
<v Speaker 2>drinking my macha and he just wasn't fucking stopping.

881
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:19.719
<v Speaker 1>It just kept going and it came out of nowhere too.

882
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:22.920
<v Speaker 1>And I really hope I portrayed that well enough because

883
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I wanted the killings, because they did. I wanted to

884
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:28.360
<v Speaker 1>portray it in the writing and how I presented this

885
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:31.159
<v Speaker 1>case that the killings just came out of fucking nowhere. Yeah,

886
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 1>and then during the chaos in the offices, I barely

887
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>took a breath, and I put my sentences all mashed together,

888
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and I just kept going at a fast paced because

889
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to try and get that chaos across, because

890
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that's what it was. He did good, well, thank you,

891
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:49.280
<v Speaker 1>but it was he came out of nowhere. He did

892
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:52.320
<v Speaker 1>such violence, and it made such little sense.

893
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, one thing too, that is so mind blowing to

894
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.880
<v Speaker 2>me is that he goes to one place, kills four

895
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:02.079
<v Speaker 2>people and is able just to walk wherever to the

896
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:05.800
<v Speaker 2>next place and walk in there like it's, you know,

897
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 2>a normal day, and just do it again. Yeah, Like

898
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:12.440
<v Speaker 2>holy shit, what kind of person or are you if

899
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.360
<v Speaker 2>you can just do that, like I don't know, act

900
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:16.400
<v Speaker 2>like nothing.

901
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Had happened, and then just go do it again.

902
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I think that you would you would be spiraling or

903
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, adrenaline. You would definitely look off. You wouldn't

904
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.079
<v Speaker 2>just be able to portray yourself as a normal as

905
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:29.000
<v Speaker 2>a normal day, a normal dude or whatever.

906
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Well that begs the question how long has he been

907
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:33.239
<v Speaker 1>hiding this sort of stuff? How long has he been

908
00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>pretending to just be a normal dude.

909
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, Wow, gosh, he's okay, Like, yeah, just fourteen

910
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:48.280
<v Speaker 2>people dead and then how many super injured? And for

911
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:51.920
<v Speaker 2>what for absolutely nothing, because he decided to make terrible

912
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:52.920
<v Speaker 2>decisions in his life.

913
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, huh he blamed them for his own actions.

914
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, fucked up exactly. He is like about

915
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.039
<v Speaker 2>as selfish as you get, yeap, like that is. That's

916
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:08.119
<v Speaker 2>like the definition and a half of freakin' I'm angry here.

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00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, I think Nicole's angry. I'm

918
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<v Speaker 1>in trouble today. I need to make sure I don't

919
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:17.199
<v Speaker 1>talk much. I'll do the dishes. I'll do the dishes.

920
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll make sure that we have a nice atmosphere in

921
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:22.760
<v Speaker 1>this house today.

922
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:24.880
<v Speaker 2>We'll light a candle, play some chill.

923
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<v Speaker 1>Hal Yeah, you know, we'll definitely do that. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys want to check out some more of this podcast,

925
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:32.440
<v Speaker 1>there is a link in the description where you can

926
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:34.639
<v Speaker 1>see our social media as our website, all that sort

927
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<v Speaker 1>of stuff.

928
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:37.360
<v Speaker 2>The new merch Is that going to be dropped that much?

929
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Is that link going to be there?

930
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.079
<v Speaker 1>I believe it is. We believe we have a merch

931
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<v Speaker 1>link down there, and it's not I'll make sure it is,

932
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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, so it's all there. Check it out, do

933
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<v Speaker 1>the things we appreciate you, and, as always, until next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay wicked.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that was a long one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what she said. B B B a
