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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the great American, of course, is the new

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff in town. His name is Donald John Trump. And

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<v Speaker 1>the failure of the Biden administration policies in the Middle

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<v Speaker 1>East will be put to the side, we hope and

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<v Speaker 1>joining you and I now is Israel Ellis they wake

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<v Speaker 1>up call global jihad and the rise of anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 1>in the world gone mad. And this author is a

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<v Speaker 1>father of an idf reserve is called up to duty

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<v Speaker 1>in October the seventh and Israel ellis. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham Show. And my first question is this. I

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<v Speaker 1>spent time in Israel. I was up against the fence,

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<v Speaker 1>and before we talk about the terrible horror inflicted upon

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<v Speaker 1>Israel by Hamas and how Trump may assist him. How

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<v Speaker 1>much of a shock was it to the Israeli people

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<v Speaker 1>that Hamas could have done this the way they did

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<v Speaker 1>it at a time that there was a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>peace coming. How much of a shock was as to

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<v Speaker 1>the psyche of the Israeli.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, Bill, I think that's pretty obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of the greatest shocks in seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>years of Israel's entire history. No one was prepared for this,

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<v Speaker 2>and no one.

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<v Speaker 3>Could have imagined this. And if you would have told me,

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<v Speaker 3>as a lay.

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<v Speaker 2>Person that you know, such and such is going to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have, you know, said, there's absolutely no way.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's really what the wake up call is about.

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<v Speaker 2>The book was written because of the question that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>coming up in every conversation, and that is the bewildered

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<v Speaker 2>look on people's eyes, asking how how did this happen?

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was there, I had a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>great security. I spent time in the West Bank, went

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<v Speaker 1>to Masada, got up against a border fence, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was told I had an IDF retiree who was a

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<v Speaker 1>great guy, a major with our little group providing analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talked about, you know, the god, the strip

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<v Speaker 1>is hunkered down, we have satellites, we have infiltrated parts

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<v Speaker 1>of a moss, we have this fence up. It's impossible

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<v Speaker 1>for this to occur. Paragliders wasn't a factor. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. IDF would quickly respond on October the seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>about one two hundred innocent men, women and children were

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<v Speaker 1>murder hunters taken hostage and my correct to state israelis

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<v Speaker 1>that the beginning of this, the genesis of this, and

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<v Speaker 1>the funding of this came because of the Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>policy of funding Iran the head of the snake. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they took those moneies from us, from Americans, gave it

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<v Speaker 1>to hesbela Hamas and through the hooties. And except for

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<v Speaker 1>the policies of Joe Biden providing the money in the

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<v Speaker 1>arms to Ron to attack Israel, this likely would not

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<v Speaker 1>have happened in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wouldn't say you're completely correct, nor are you

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<v Speaker 2>completely incorrect.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I could.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead and place the blame on any one particular person,

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<v Speaker 2>specially in America. I don't think anyone wanted something like

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<v Speaker 2>this to have happened.

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<v Speaker 3>However, I will tell.

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<v Speaker 2>You that the complacency and the funding of UNRA and

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest scam that has existed since the Second

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<v Speaker 2>Gold War, since the establishment of the State of Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>this UNRA and the United Nations, that's where the blame squarely,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, falls squarely on.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just sort of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Ignorance and not recognizing and realizing what.

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<v Speaker 3>Global gad is about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Bendings the deed too ran has got to be

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<v Speaker 2>also the most stupidest thing that we could do to

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<v Speaker 2>undermine our own security and safety, especially knowing it's just

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<v Speaker 2>been bizarre.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we know that they're developing nuclear capabilities, we

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<v Speaker 3>know what they're at. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>These people are marching in the street calling death to America,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet we continue to fund proxies that will ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>fund it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'll tell you the absolute irony bill is having.

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<v Speaker 4>My son an active duty assigned to protect the humanitarian

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<v Speaker 4>corridor leading into Gaza to provide humanitarian needs to Gasan's

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<v Speaker 4>much in need of these things, and those goods are being.

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<v Speaker 3>Hijacked by Amas, who.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuels themselves, and we're funding these goods that are coming

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<v Speaker 2>in so that I must could refuel itself so the

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<v Speaker 2>big go ahead, and they could try to attack my son.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just totally bizarre and ironic and dissonance and

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<v Speaker 2>everything you can imagine. And hopefully with this new administration

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<v Speaker 2>coming in, that nonsense will be put to bed and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to see a very different face of the

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<v Speaker 2>Middle East.

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<v Speaker 1>Israel elis author of the book Wake Up Call. When

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the release of those three female hostages, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so happy those ladies were released. I saw dozens and

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of Hamas fighters, murderers and terrorists dressed up appropriately.

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<v Speaker 1>With AK forty seven's shooting in the air, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt that Hamas will reconstitute itself and will do

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the same thing of given the opportunity in a year,

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<v Speaker 1>five years, or ten years. Can Israel ever be at

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<v Speaker 1>real peace if Hamas controls Gaza.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it must must be, there can be.

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<v Speaker 2>There can be no exception over here, and there is

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<v Speaker 2>no opportunity for flexibility. It must needs to be completely decimated.

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<v Speaker 2>A must needs to cease to exist. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, our new president God bless them, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the divine intervention that he is in power today. He

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<v Speaker 2>knows very well and better than anyone else in the

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<v Speaker 2>art of the deal and the the idea of having

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<v Speaker 2>to be put into the impossible situation where is really

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<v Speaker 2>are forced to negotiate with terrorsts and to repatriate.

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<v Speaker 3>Nearly nineteen hundred murdering.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrorists out of prisons who've been put away and put

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<v Speaker 2>out of arm's way, and then put them back into

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<v Speaker 2>gass that a must and rearm themselves. It is shameful,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is terrible that we're in that situation. But

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<v Speaker 2>she knows something, Bill, And then you've been to Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know this. The Jewish people in Israel, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Are lovers of life, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We see three souls, and we see that worth almost

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<v Speaker 2>any cost.

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<v Speaker 3>We do not lease people behind.

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<v Speaker 2>And so let's get our hostages out and then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>deal with these animals secondary. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The other issue is the disproportionate numbers. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how many of the hundred are left alive. I assume

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<v Speaker 1>more than half her debt. I pray to God they're

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<v Speaker 1>all they all look like those three hostages that came

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<v Speaker 1>out that they look actually better than I thought out

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<v Speaker 1>they would look. But how do you come up with numbers?

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<v Speaker 1>You give us maybe thirty forty fifty and we'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you back two thousand murderers. How come it's always like

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred to one or fifty to one, And who

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<v Speaker 1>negotiates that deal?

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<v Speaker 2>There is no negotiation over here, And there's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the outside world doesn't see, sir, of what happens on

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<v Speaker 2>the inside. It is absolutely disproportionate and what really disgusting

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<v Speaker 2>more than anything else, Bill is when we take human

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<v Speaker 2>lives and we commoditize them and turn them into negotiations and.

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<v Speaker 3>Turn them into ponds.

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<v Speaker 2>These are human beings, They're innocent people. They kidnapped them,

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<v Speaker 2>they took them, They walked into a sovereign state across

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<v Speaker 2>a border, and they brtally murdered people and kidnapped innocent women,

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<v Speaker 2>children of all ages, men, And here we are, we're playing.

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<v Speaker 2>We're playing with people's life. I used like chips on

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<v Speaker 2>a poker table. It is disgusting, demoralizing, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>shows that's how far like the entire situation has assig we.

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<v Speaker 2>This should not be allowed to happen. This cannot be

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to continue to exist. It is painful. It is

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<v Speaker 2>painful for the world to watch. It's painful for Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>It is shameful that how moss can still inflict this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of harm. We are feeding right into them. And

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<v Speaker 2>it is painful for those families, those poor families that

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<v Speaker 2>are on this roller coaster of emotions. I gotta tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>I am really grateful that there is call it a

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<v Speaker 2>deal if you want in place, but you said it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know the art of a deal. To

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<v Speaker 2>any deal that's going to be successful is when both

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<v Speaker 2>sides feel that they're getting value from it. Unfortunately, I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't see that here and I just don't see

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<v Speaker 2>this having success into you're talking about thirty three hostages

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<v Speaker 2>in Phase one are supposed to be released over thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three over over six weeks, over a six week period,

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<v Speaker 2>so they've forced Israel is constantly negotiating.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are they negotiating.

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<v Speaker 2>They're negotiating in Qatar, who's funding terrorism, who's funding Iran?

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<v Speaker 3>And Ran is involved in all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's this is this dime, you know, biacle, diabolical plan,

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy, and this is all what Global she Had

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<v Speaker 2>is about.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what Chi Had is them about.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not just in the streets of Israel. This

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<v Speaker 2>is in the streets of America as well. When you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Hamas, and yes, it's very scary what you

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<v Speaker 2>see there, but what do we see here in our

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<v Speaker 2>streets on the encampments and the protests in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>It's disgusting that it's allowed. And I know that we

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<v Speaker 2>allow free speech, but this is this is what's This

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<v Speaker 2>is the abuse of what we allow, the abuse of

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<v Speaker 2>the privilege that we give people the freedom to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Ahead, and they use it against us.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know what the answer is that I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you said, these people marching down our streets

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<v Speaker 2>clad in their cafeas and their face is hidden and

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<v Speaker 2>intimidating with slogans of genocide on it. That's gotta stop.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to figure out how they You know, those people,

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're here and they're doing that thing. Should be

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<v Speaker 3>Let them do it over there. It's it's really as scary,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Israel ellis author of the to me Uh. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>militant Islam is a culture of death, and many Western

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<v Speaker 1>democracies are cultures of life. We value human life from

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<v Speaker 1>the moment of conception to natural death, and we look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to an award, hopefully in heaven later. However, and

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<v Speaker 1>militant Islam they worship death. That you succeed in life

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<v Speaker 1>by killing Jews, Christians, Catholics and Americans, and there's seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two virgins in heaven waiting for you. So we celebrate life,

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas and Has celebrates death, and they want to be

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<v Speaker 1>killed to get to heaven and jihad, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should arrange the meeting if that's the case, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill, you're you're, you're very right about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to point out to you that they're

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<v Speaker 2>indiscriminate in terms of who is caught in the crossfire.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't care whether it's Jews, Christians, or Muslims and

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<v Speaker 2>they and I talk about this in my.

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<v Speaker 3>Book, and this is a very big part of the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Is in the wake Up Call, I talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that.

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<v Speaker 3>What we are dealing with, this global.

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<v Speaker 2>Gad is is the lovers of life versus the lovers

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<v Speaker 2>of death.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is why the subtext.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the book is in a world called MAD and

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<v Speaker 2>that's capitalized to stand for the acronym of mutually assured destruction.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we've always.

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<v Speaker 2>We've grown up in a culture of cold warfare where

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<v Speaker 2>we knew that what we were dealing with on each

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<v Speaker 2>value of their own lives, maybe not our lives. But

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<v Speaker 2>the fact is that leverage does not exist when you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Dealing with GID.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet yet the left side of the political spectrum

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<v Speaker 2>sort of operate this and disillusionment that there is something here.

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<v Speaker 3>To negotiate with. There is, as you said, it nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to negotiate.

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<v Speaker 2>With when you're dealing with the lovers of death, because

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't left us anything.

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<v Speaker 3>To negotiate with. And it really is painful.

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<v Speaker 2>Because our moral compass is all about preservation of life.

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<v Speaker 2>So for us to go ahead and to take out

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<v Speaker 2>the lovers of death, even though what we're doing is justifiable,

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<v Speaker 2>it is still a morally corrupt affair if you think

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<v Speaker 3>It is against everything we stand for.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is what they are doing to us, even

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<v Speaker 2>at the cost of their own lives.

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<v Speaker 3>The go ahead and tarnish our souls.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I love the media's game of playing these

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<v Speaker 1>terrible pictures of Muslims being killed by Israeli armaments in

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's that's all. See.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course Hamas is killing their own people. They locate

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<v Speaker 1>command and control centers, arms depot underneath hospital, schools and

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<v Speaker 1>apartment buildings. So the Israelis in a war must be

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<v Speaker 1>and they so Hamas is in the business of killing Muslims,

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<v Speaker 1>of killing Jews, of killing Westerners, because that's what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, and that's the dissonance of of sort of different.

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<v Speaker 2>The political spectrum that you know, goes ahead and and

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<v Speaker 2>and and feeds that into that media sort of frenzy. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Goldama year said it. She was Israel's Prime minister,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think she was the third prime minister and

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<v Speaker 2>fourth prime minister, and she said she said.

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<v Speaker 3>It very clearly. She doesn't blame the Arabs for fighting war.

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<v Speaker 2>With Israel, but she blames the Arabs for turning our

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli young men into killers. And that's what it's all about,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what the jihadists do. Tihatism in itself is

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<v Speaker 2>a martyrdom. It's a philosophy of martyrdom, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>really true evil and.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to deal with that evil.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't believe that violence and war is necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>the long term answer. You can take out the current

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<v Speaker 2>situation which we must neutralize, and I completely agree with that,

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<v Speaker 2>but we must find what is the underlying long term

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity here for us to have an everlasting peace, and

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<v Speaker 2>that bill is got to be the syllabus of education.

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<v Speaker 3>We must.

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<v Speaker 2>It is an impossible situation, especially for the god given

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<v Speaker 2>right of freedom of speech and for.

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<v Speaker 3>The ability that we believe that we have that there

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<v Speaker 3>is a peaceful way, and that there is a democrat

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<v Speaker 3>way in the Judea Christian belief.

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<v Speaker 2>To have the opportunity to be able to speak and

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<v Speaker 2>practice and and be as you are. But what do

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<v Speaker 2>you do when people use that against you? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you do when they use that as a tool to subjugate,

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<v Speaker 2>as a tool to dominate, and as a tool to

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<v Speaker 2>use against you that results in being and being murdered,

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<v Speaker 2>and and and and and being there they're abusing that,

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<v Speaker 2>and what do we do with that? These are the

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<v Speaker 2>questions that I deal with in the wake Up Call,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're important, very very important, and fortunately present day

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<v Speaker 2>issues that we all must confront.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank god Donald Trump's in charge now Israel Ellis

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<v Speaker 1>the book is the wake up call Global jihad and

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<v Speaker 1>the rise of a Semitism in the world gone man.

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<v Speaker 1>One result we have to run. But one result can't

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<v Speaker 1>be the Hamas still controls Gaza, accepting arms from Iran,

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<v Speaker 1>and then here we go again. Here Hamas must be

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<v Speaker 1>totally obliterated and defeated. Gods is a great piece of

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<v Speaker 1>real estate on the Mediterranean.

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<v Speaker 2>Not just to mus but a ran ran ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>the state, they gotta go, they gotta go.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill, and I thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I'm on behalf on, behalf of myself

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<v Speaker 2>and the Jewish people. I want to thank you very

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<v Speaker 2>very much for going to Israel. Please everyone visit Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>It is safe.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the envelope of love, and you will not

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<v Speaker 2>feel threatened over there. You're going to feel a lot

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<v Speaker 2>safer than you feel here with all the protests and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Bill, And please if people can

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<v Speaker 2>purchase the book on Amazon. You know Amazon has censored

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<v Speaker 2>any marketing to do with ten seven, so it's extremely

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<v Speaker 2>important that your listeners go out and purchase The wake

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<v Speaker 2>Up Call and by Israel ellis and leave reviews to

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<v Speaker 2>let Amazon know that that is unacceptable, not to shut

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<v Speaker 2>us down, not to censor as or silence us.

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<v Speaker 1>Israel. Thank you and make God bless Israel. And thanks

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<v Speaker 1>again for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Bill. Take care, God bless bless God, blessure.

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