Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the great American, of course, is the new
Speaker 1: sheriff in town. His name is Donald John Trump. And
Speaker 1: the failure of the Biden administration policies in the Middle
Speaker 1: East will be put to the side, we hope and
Speaker 1: joining you and I now is Israel Ellis they wake
Speaker 1: up call global jihad and the rise of anti Semitism
Speaker 1: in the world gone mad. And this author is a
Speaker 1: father of an idf reserve is called up to duty
Speaker 1: in October the seventh and Israel ellis. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. And my first question is this. I
Speaker 1: spent time in Israel. I was up against the fence,
Speaker 1: and before we talk about the terrible horror inflicted upon
Speaker 1: Israel by Hamas and how Trump may assist him. How
Speaker 1: much of a shock was it to the Israeli people
Speaker 1: that Hamas could have done this the way they did
Speaker 1: it at a time that there was a sense of
Speaker 1: peace coming. How much of a shock was as to
Speaker 1: the psyche of the Israeli.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, Bill, I think that's pretty obvious.
Speaker 2: It was one of the greatest shocks in seventy five
Speaker 2: years of Israel's entire history. No one was prepared for this,
Speaker 2: and no one.
Speaker 3: Could have imagined this. And if you would have told me,
Speaker 3: as a lay.
Speaker 2: Person that you know, such and such is going to happen,
Speaker 2: I would have, you know, said, there's absolutely no way.
Speaker 3: And that's really what the wake up call is about.
Speaker 2: The book was written because of the question that I'm
Speaker 2: coming up in every conversation, and that is the bewildered
Speaker 2: look on people's eyes, asking how how did this happen?
Speaker 1: And when I was there, I had a sense of
Speaker 1: great security. I spent time in the West Bank, went
Speaker 1: to Masada, got up against a border fence, and I
Speaker 1: was told I had an IDF retiree who was a
Speaker 1: great guy, a major with our little group providing analysis,
Speaker 1: and he talked about, you know, the god, the strip
Speaker 1: is hunkered down, we have satellites, we have infiltrated parts
Speaker 1: of a moss, we have this fence up. It's impossible
Speaker 1: for this to occur. Paragliders wasn't a factor. It wasn't
Speaker 1: going to happen. IDF would quickly respond on October the seventh,
Speaker 1: about one two hundred innocent men, women and children were
Speaker 1: murder hunters taken hostage and my correct to state israelis
Speaker 1: that the beginning of this, the genesis of this, and
Speaker 1: the funding of this came because of the Joe Biden
Speaker 1: policy of funding Iran the head of the snake. Then
Speaker 1: they took those moneies from us, from Americans, gave it
Speaker 1: to hesbela Hamas and through the hooties. And except for
Speaker 1: the policies of Joe Biden providing the money in the
Speaker 1: arms to Ron to attack Israel, this likely would not
Speaker 1: have happened in the first place.
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't say you're completely correct, nor are you
Speaker 2: completely incorrect.
Speaker 3: I don't think I could.
Speaker 2: Go ahead and place the blame on any one particular person,
Speaker 2: specially in America. I don't think anyone wanted something like
Speaker 2: this to have happened.
Speaker 3: However, I will tell.
Speaker 2: You that the complacency and the funding of UNRA and
Speaker 2: of the biggest scam that has existed since the Second
Speaker 2: Gold War, since the establishment of the State of Israel,
Speaker 2: this UNRA and the United Nations, that's where the blame squarely,
Speaker 2: you know, falls squarely on.
Speaker 3: And it's just sort of this.
Speaker 2: Ignorance and not recognizing and realizing what.
Speaker 3: Global gad is about.
Speaker 2: Yes, Bendings the deed too ran has got to be
Speaker 2: also the most stupidest thing that we could do to
Speaker 2: undermine our own security and safety, especially knowing it's just
Speaker 2: been bizarre.
Speaker 3: I mean, we know that they're developing nuclear capabilities, we
Speaker 3: know what they're at. It is.
Speaker 2: These people are marching in the street calling death to America,
Speaker 2: and yet we continue to fund proxies that will ultimately
Speaker 2: fund it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll tell you the absolute irony bill is having.
Speaker 4: My son an active duty assigned to protect the humanitarian
Speaker 4: corridor leading into Gaza to provide humanitarian needs to Gasan's
Speaker 4: much in need of these things, and those goods are being.
Speaker 3: Hijacked by Amas, who.
Speaker 2: Fuels themselves, and we're funding these goods that are coming
Speaker 2: in so that I must could refuel itself so the
Speaker 2: big go ahead, and they could try to attack my son.
Speaker 2: And it's just totally bizarre and ironic and dissonance and
Speaker 2: everything you can imagine. And hopefully with this new administration
Speaker 2: coming in, that nonsense will be put to bed and
Speaker 2: we're going to see a very different face of the
Speaker 2: Middle East.
Speaker 1: Israel elis author of the book Wake Up Call. When
Speaker 1: I watched the release of those three female hostages, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy those ladies were released. I saw dozens and
Speaker 1: dozens of Hamas fighters, murderers and terrorists dressed up appropriately.
Speaker 1: With AK forty seven's shooting in the air, I have
Speaker 1: no doubt that Hamas will reconstitute itself and will do
Speaker 1: exactly the same thing of given the opportunity in a year,
Speaker 1: five years, or ten years. Can Israel ever be at
Speaker 1: real peace if Hamas controls Gaza.
Speaker 3: No, it must must be, there can be.
Speaker 2: There can be no exception over here, and there is
Speaker 2: no opportunity for flexibility. It must needs to be completely decimated.
Speaker 2: A must needs to cease to exist. And I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, our new president God bless them, because it's
Speaker 2: the divine intervention that he is in power today. He
Speaker 2: knows very well and better than anyone else in the
Speaker 2: art of the deal and the the idea of having
Speaker 2: to be put into the impossible situation where is really
Speaker 2: are forced to negotiate with terrorsts and to repatriate.
Speaker 3: Nearly nineteen hundred murdering.
Speaker 2: Terrorists out of prisons who've been put away and put
Speaker 2: out of arm's way, and then put them back into
Speaker 2: gass that a must and rearm themselves. It is shameful,
Speaker 2: and it is terrible that we're in that situation. But
Speaker 2: she knows something, Bill, And then you've been to Israel,
Speaker 2: and you know this. The Jewish people in Israel, we.
Speaker 3: Are lovers of life, and.
Speaker 2: We see three souls, and we see that worth almost
Speaker 2: any cost.
Speaker 3: We do not lease people behind.
Speaker 2: And so let's get our hostages out and then we'll
Speaker 2: deal with these animals secondary. Well.
Speaker 1: The other issue is the disproportionate numbers. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many of the hundred are left alive. I assume
Speaker 1: more than half her debt. I pray to God they're
Speaker 1: all they all look like those three hostages that came
Speaker 1: out that they look actually better than I thought out
Speaker 1: they would look. But how do you come up with numbers?
Speaker 1: You give us maybe thirty forty fifty and we'll give
Speaker 1: you back two thousand murderers. How come it's always like
Speaker 1: one hundred to one or fifty to one, And who
Speaker 1: negotiates that deal?
Speaker 2: There is no negotiation over here, And there's just you know,
Speaker 2: the outside world doesn't see, sir, of what happens on
Speaker 2: the inside. It is absolutely disproportionate and what really disgusting
Speaker 2: more than anything else, Bill is when we take human
Speaker 2: lives and we commoditize them and turn them into negotiations and.
Speaker 3: Turn them into ponds.
Speaker 2: These are human beings, They're innocent people. They kidnapped them,
Speaker 2: they took them, They walked into a sovereign state across
Speaker 2: a border, and they brtally murdered people and kidnapped innocent women,
Speaker 2: children of all ages, men, And here we are, we're playing.
Speaker 2: We're playing with people's life. I used like chips on
Speaker 2: a poker table. It is disgusting, demoralizing, and it just
Speaker 2: shows that's how far like the entire situation has assig we.
Speaker 2: This should not be allowed to happen. This cannot be
Speaker 2: allowed to continue to exist. It is painful. It is
Speaker 2: painful for the world to watch. It's painful for Israel.
Speaker 2: It is shameful that how moss can still inflict this
Speaker 2: kind of harm. We are feeding right into them. And
Speaker 2: it is painful for those families, those poor families that
Speaker 2: are on this roller coaster of emotions. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: I am really grateful that there is call it a
Speaker 2: deal if you want in place, but you said it,
Speaker 2: you know, you know the art of a deal. To
Speaker 2: any deal that's going to be successful is when both
Speaker 2: sides feel that they're getting value from it. Unfortunately, I
Speaker 2: just don't see that here and I just don't see
Speaker 2: this having success into you're talking about thirty three hostages
Speaker 2: in Phase one are supposed to be released over thirty
Speaker 2: three over over six weeks, over a six week period,
Speaker 2: so they've forced Israel is constantly negotiating.
Speaker 3: Where are they negotiating.
Speaker 2: They're negotiating in Qatar, who's funding terrorism, who's funding Iran?
Speaker 3: And Ran is involved in all of this.
Speaker 2: So it's this is this dime, you know, biacle, diabolical plan,
Speaker 2: that's crazy, and this is all what Global she Had
Speaker 2: is about.
Speaker 3: And this is what Chi Had is them about.
Speaker 2: And it's not just in the streets of Israel. This
Speaker 2: is in the streets of America as well. When you
Speaker 2: talk about Hamas, and yes, it's very scary what you
Speaker 2: see there, but what do we see here in our
Speaker 2: streets on the encampments and the protests in New York.
Speaker 2: It's disgusting that it's allowed. And I know that we
Speaker 2: allow free speech, but this is this is what's This
Speaker 2: is the abuse of what we allow, the abuse of
Speaker 2: the privilege that we give people the freedom to go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, and they use it against us.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what the answer is that I
Speaker 2: can tell you said, these people marching down our streets
Speaker 2: clad in their cafeas and their face is hidden and
Speaker 2: intimidating with slogans of genocide on it. That's gotta stop.
Speaker 2: We got to figure out how they You know, those people,
Speaker 2: they're they're here and they're doing that thing. Should be
Speaker 2: sent back home.
Speaker 3: Let them do it over there. It's it's really as scary,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Israel ellis author of the to me Uh. Most of
Speaker 1: militant Islam is a culture of death, and many Western
Speaker 1: democracies are cultures of life. We value human life from
Speaker 1: the moment of conception to natural death, and we look
Speaker 1: forward to an award, hopefully in heaven later. However, and
Speaker 1: militant Islam they worship death. That you succeed in life
Speaker 1: by killing Jews, Christians, Catholics and Americans, and there's seventy
Speaker 1: two virgins in heaven waiting for you. So we celebrate life,
Speaker 1: Hamas and Has celebrates death, and they want to be
Speaker 1: killed to get to heaven and jihad, and I think
Speaker 1: we should arrange the meeting if that's the case, let's
Speaker 1: get it done.
Speaker 3: Bill, you're you're, you're very right about that.
Speaker 2: But I want to point out to you that they're
Speaker 2: indiscriminate in terms of who is caught in the crossfire.
Speaker 2: They don't care whether it's Jews, Christians, or Muslims and
Speaker 2: they and I talk about this in my.
Speaker 3: Book, and this is a very big part of the book.
Speaker 2: Is in the wake Up Call, I talk about the
Speaker 2: fact that.
Speaker 3: What we are dealing with, this global.
Speaker 2: Gad is is the lovers of life versus the lovers
Speaker 2: of death.
Speaker 3: And that is why the subtext.
Speaker 2: Of the book is in a world called MAD and
Speaker 2: that's capitalized to stand for the acronym of mutually assured destruction.
Speaker 3: Because we've always.
Speaker 2: We've grown up in a culture of cold warfare where
Speaker 2: we knew that what we were dealing with on each
Speaker 2: side were people who valued life for who had some
Speaker 2: value of their own lives, maybe not our lives. But
Speaker 2: the fact is that leverage does not exist when you're.
Speaker 3: Dealing with GID.
Speaker 2: And yet yet the left side of the political spectrum
Speaker 2: continues to bend their knee and they continue to, you know,
Speaker 2: sort of operate this and disillusionment that there is something here.
Speaker 3: To negotiate with. There is, as you said, it nothing
Speaker 3: to negotiate.
Speaker 2: With when you're dealing with the lovers of death, because
Speaker 2: they haven't left us anything.
Speaker 3: To negotiate with. And it really is painful.
Speaker 2: Because our moral compass is all about preservation of life.
Speaker 2: So for us to go ahead and to take out
Speaker 2: the lovers of death, even though what we're doing is justifiable,
Speaker 2: it is still a morally corrupt affair if you think
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: It is against everything we stand for.
Speaker 2: And this is what they are doing to us, even
Speaker 2: at the cost of their own lives.
Speaker 3: The go ahead and tarnish our souls.
Speaker 1: You know, I love the media's game of playing these
Speaker 1: terrible pictures of Muslims being killed by Israeli armaments in
Speaker 1: the Gaza, when in reality.
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's all. See.
Speaker 1: Of course Hamas is killing their own people. They locate
Speaker 1: command and control centers, arms depot underneath hospital, schools and
Speaker 1: apartment buildings. So the Israelis in a war must be
Speaker 1: and they so Hamas is in the business of killing Muslims,
Speaker 1: of killing Jews, of killing Westerners, because that's what they do.
Speaker 2: That's right, and that's the dissonance of of sort of different.
Speaker 2: The political spectrum that you know, goes ahead and and
Speaker 2: and and feeds that into that media sort of frenzy. Hey,
Speaker 2: you know, Goldama year said it. She was Israel's Prime minister,
Speaker 2: and I think she was the third prime minister and
Speaker 2: fourth prime minister, and she said she said.
Speaker 3: It very clearly. She doesn't blame the Arabs for fighting war.
Speaker 2: With Israel, but she blames the Arabs for turning our
Speaker 2: Israeli young men into killers. And that's what it's all about,
Speaker 2: because that's what the jihadists do. Tihatism in itself is
Speaker 2: a martyrdom. It's a philosophy of martyrdom, and it is
Speaker 2: really true evil and.
Speaker 3: We have to deal with that evil.
Speaker 2: But I don't believe that violence and war is necessarily
Speaker 2: the long term answer. You can take out the current
Speaker 2: situation which we must neutralize, and I completely agree with that,
Speaker 2: but we must find what is the underlying long term
Speaker 2: opportunity here for us to have an everlasting peace, and
Speaker 2: that bill is got to be the syllabus of education.
Speaker 3: We must.
Speaker 2: It is an impossible situation, especially for the god given
Speaker 2: right of freedom of speech and for.
Speaker 3: The ability that we believe that we have that there
Speaker 3: is a peaceful way, and that there is a democrat
Speaker 3: way in the Judea Christian belief.
Speaker 2: To have the opportunity to be able to speak and
Speaker 2: practice and and be as you are. But what do
Speaker 2: you do when people use that against you? What do
Speaker 2: you do when they use that as a tool to subjugate,
Speaker 2: as a tool to dominate, and as a tool to
Speaker 2: use against you that results in being and being murdered,
Speaker 2: and and and and and being there they're abusing that,
Speaker 2: and what do we do with that? These are the
Speaker 2: questions that I deal with in the wake Up Call,
Speaker 2: and they're important, very very important, and fortunately present day
Speaker 2: issues that we all must confront.
Speaker 1: And thank god Donald Trump's in charge now Israel Ellis
Speaker 1: the book is the wake up call Global jihad and
Speaker 1: the rise of a Semitism in the world gone man.
Speaker 1: One result we have to run. But one result can't
Speaker 1: be the Hamas still controls Gaza, accepting arms from Iran,
Speaker 1: and then here we go again. Here Hamas must be
Speaker 1: totally obliterated and defeated. Gods is a great piece of
Speaker 1: real estate on the Mediterranean.
Speaker 2: Not just to mus but a ran ran ahead of
Speaker 2: the state, they gotta go, they gotta go.
Speaker 3: Bill, and I thank you.
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm on behalf on, behalf of myself
Speaker 2: and the Jewish people. I want to thank you very
Speaker 2: very much for going to Israel. Please everyone visit Israel.
Speaker 3: It is safe.
Speaker 2: It is the envelope of love, and you will not
Speaker 2: feel threatened over there. You're going to feel a lot
Speaker 2: safer than you feel here with all the protests and everything.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Bill, And please if people can
Speaker 2: purchase the book on Amazon. You know Amazon has censored
Speaker 2: any marketing to do with ten seven, so it's extremely
Speaker 2: important that your listeners go out and purchase The wake
Speaker 2: Up Call and by Israel ellis and leave reviews to
Speaker 2: let Amazon know that that is unacceptable, not to shut
Speaker 2: us down, not to censor as or silence us.
Speaker 1: Israel. Thank you and make God bless Israel. And thanks
Speaker 1: again for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you Israel.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bill. Take care, God bless bless God, blessure.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham on News Radio seven
Speaker 1: hundred WuW